1 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:11,220 Okay, this is the meeting of the Urdu City Council being held. I don't know why I took those off. 2 00:00:11,860 --> 00:00:18,560 Held on Thursday, May 28th, 2026, 7 o'clock PM at the Urdu City Fire Station, 2163 West Urdu 3 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:29,360 Way. We'll have a roll call, Kyle Matthews, Clyde Christianson, Scotter Bay, Larry Kimpel, 4 00:00:30,100 --> 00:00:35,000 I'm Sheldon Birch, I'm here. We have our city attorney and our city recorder and our deputy 5 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:40,840 city record with us as well. And we'll now have the Pledge of Allegiance led by Keith 6 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:41,160 Tum. 7 00:00:48,190 --> 00:00:54,670 To the flag on behalf of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands 8 00:00:55,190 --> 00:01:01,030 one occasion on behalf of the indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 9 00:01:08,370 --> 00:01:13,290 And we can open our meeting now for public comment. I motion we open our public comment 10 00:01:13,290 --> 00:01:13,710 period. 11 00:01:13,710 --> 00:01:15,750 All in favor? 12 00:01:16,370 --> 00:01:16,750 Aye. 13 00:01:17,190 --> 00:01:18,030 Thank you. 14 00:01:19,980 --> 00:01:22,020 Any comments from the room today? 15 00:01:28,610 --> 00:01:29,070 Yeah. 16 00:01:29,230 --> 00:01:29,450 I have 17 00:01:34,980 --> 00:01:35,280 a chat. 18 00:01:35,420 --> 00:01:35,580 Yes. 19 00:01:35,900 --> 00:01:38,280 I'll keep your real quick. 20 00:01:42,770 --> 00:01:44,110 Thank you very much. 21 00:01:46,850 --> 00:01:47,330 Thank you, sir. 22 00:01:48,670 --> 00:01:49,010 Thank you. 23 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,880 Will you turn your mic off? 24 00:01:53,180 --> 00:01:53,980 Turn your mic on there. 25 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:55,340 Is that one on? 26 00:01:59,030 --> 00:01:59,810 Over here. 27 00:02:00,010 --> 00:02:02,150 So hopefully you get recorded. 28 00:02:03,210 --> 00:02:04,050 All right, gentlemen. 29 00:02:04,050 --> 00:02:15,630 So I'm assuming we're doing this this week because we just missed you guys on the last meeting, but for April of 2026, we have 90 or 12 calls for service in the current area. 30 00:02:16,650 --> 00:02:23,450 No of those calls for service. We made 12 arrests and then 99 citations were issued very traffic enforcement. 31 00:02:24,530 --> 00:02:32,410 A couple of other simple things there was multiple DUIs that were removed off the road. 32 00:02:33,350 --> 00:02:36,010 We did have a reporter, a child abuse, 33 00:02:36,890 --> 00:02:42,530 and it's our defectors were able to work with the child 34 00:02:42,530 --> 00:02:45,730 and they didn't get enough to make an arrest on that case as well. 35 00:02:46,210 --> 00:02:49,630 And then we have multiple marijuana possession here. 36 00:02:50,310 --> 00:02:55,570 So it's an answer to what's going to come down a little bit. 37 00:02:55,570 --> 00:02:59,590 but not only having one criminal court case, 38 00:02:59,770 --> 00:03:04,070 but it's very questions or make a way 39 00:03:04,070 --> 00:03:06,090 to take back to the patrol. 40 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:09,840 None for me. 41 00:03:10,140 --> 00:03:10,240 No. 42 00:03:11,340 --> 00:03:12,180 Okay, thank you. 43 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:17,380 Just for clarification, this does appear 44 00:03:17,380 --> 00:03:19,880 to be the same report that I read in the last meeting. 45 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,800 So I guess we just added a second time. 46 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,240 We're ending public comment period. 47 00:03:33,460 --> 00:03:35,740 Well, all right, did you want to do that? 48 00:03:35,740 --> 00:03:37,700 out in the AmeriCorps, that's all right. 49 00:03:37,940 --> 00:03:39,120 Yeah, okay, great. 50 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,480 So, I spoke that from our from the very district 51 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,340 by the ultimate university as well 52 00:03:45,340 --> 00:03:47,480 to the sleep of the last reading 53 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,760 because the rid of the letter and you guys did that. 54 00:03:52,580 --> 00:03:54,400 But that's later on in the age of the day prior. 55 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,240 Anyway, we did two or three calls. 56 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,980 The voice along, although being reduced this month, 57 00:04:04,180 --> 00:04:05,780 it looks like the home needed medical 58 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:14,080 for our calls. Also, we did start a couple of while-lying calls, 59 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,180 integrated, so a little bit. That season is started. So, I want your 60 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,200 distance will space down, refresh, wait, so like that. 61 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:31,440 Questions for me. We say you have two calls on there. Yes, but one was on 62 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:37,280 I'm sure we're going to be able to see if there's any further questions. 63 00:04:39,770 --> 00:04:40,510 I already started. 64 00:04:41,010 --> 00:04:44,490 I'm going to be able to learn a certain height it's supposed to be kept through. 65 00:04:44,730 --> 00:04:45,110 Yes, sir. 66 00:04:45,330 --> 00:04:50,770 If you have more than five acres, you have to have a 24-foot width around your property. 67 00:04:51,530 --> 00:04:52,830 Less than five acres. 68 00:04:56,060 --> 00:04:57,340 24-foot width of what? 69 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,240 A 24-foot half of six inches of piers. 70 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:01,960 Yeah. 71 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,640 So around your power, you want 20 feet, six inches. 72 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:07,080 Okay. 73 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,240 And if you're less than five meters, 74 00:05:09,500 --> 00:05:13,640 it's people that want to keep up less than six inches. 75 00:05:14,100 --> 00:05:14,780 And less than screen, 76 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:15,580 vice vegetation, 77 00:05:16,060 --> 00:05:16,500 environment, 78 00:05:19,100 --> 00:05:19,620 trees, 79 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:20,360 stuff like that. 80 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:20,700 Obviously, 81 00:05:23,340 --> 00:05:24,380 it's just, 82 00:05:25,220 --> 00:05:26,340 maybe it's good. 83 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,560 Thank you. 84 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,860 Motion, we close follow comment? 85 00:05:32,660 --> 00:05:33,860 All in favor? 86 00:05:34,860 --> 00:05:35,120 All in favor? 87 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:35,320 Aye. 88 00:05:36,340 --> 00:05:36,480 Okay. 89 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:37,500 Passes. 90 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,620 Next item is to approve our minutes from the last meeting. 91 00:05:42,100 --> 00:05:43,500 I did review them. 92 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,040 I did make a comment about a change. 93 00:05:46,220 --> 00:05:49,740 I have not seen if that change was added to the minutes yet. 94 00:05:50,260 --> 00:05:53,260 That change was added in the new minutes. 95 00:05:53,620 --> 00:05:58,400 It was stated that no motion was made by someone previously. 96 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:03,120 We just clarified why we didn't take any action. 97 00:06:06,580 --> 00:06:08,560 To engage in the lawsuit. 98 00:06:10,420 --> 00:06:10,540 Great. 99 00:06:12,700 --> 00:06:14,060 No motion. We approve our minutes. 100 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:17,660 No, in favor. 101 00:06:18,060 --> 00:06:19,580 Hi, thank you. 102 00:06:20,900 --> 00:06:24,780 Consideration of ordinance number 26-07 and ordinance of the 103 00:06:24,780 --> 00:06:29,980 or to sit, or to counsel, regulating, preventing and banning the discharge of fireworks within 104 00:06:29,980 --> 00:06:36,200 certain areas of the city. We have the map that has been provided to us. It appears 105 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:43,540 to be the same map that we have used the last, at least the last, I don't know, three years, 106 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:52,720 I think, correct? And all five years or four years, whatever it's been. So any discussion 107 00:06:52,720 --> 00:07:06,280 on this. So what about just said, I don't know how to do it. It seems to me like you're like this. 108 00:07:13,790 --> 00:07:22,490 My question is, can we can we invent this? Is that the single finalist stand up for this year? 109 00:07:24,190 --> 00:07:29,990 You can have manned it on advice of your fire chief based upon his opinion. 110 00:07:40,310 --> 00:07:40,910 So 111 00:07:43,180 --> 00:07:46,960 it doesn't include areas where there are a lot of homes in it. 112 00:07:48,260 --> 00:07:50,740 The green area is where it would be allowed. 113 00:07:51,620 --> 00:07:54,380 Isn't that basically the church fund? 114 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,640 No, it's 115 00:08:01,430 --> 00:08:08,470 between SR 36 and Rose Springs on the west. 116 00:08:08,470 --> 00:08:11,030 All the way east of Rose Creek. 117 00:08:17,100 --> 00:08:18,900 And then it's what is it? 118 00:08:19,180 --> 00:08:20,400 Bates Canyon on the north. 119 00:08:21,140 --> 00:08:23,820 And is that heard away on the south? 120 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,920 Or is that church road on the south? 121 00:08:27,060 --> 00:08:27,540 I'm not sure. 122 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,140 Should be to that to say. 123 00:08:32,750 --> 00:08:34,290 I looked at it, but I don't remember. 124 00:08:35,690 --> 00:08:37,070 Maybe it's in our description here. 125 00:08:40,290 --> 00:08:40,790 I don't think so. 126 00:08:40,850 --> 00:08:42,010 I think it just refers to the math. 127 00:08:43,750 --> 00:08:46,070 Well, I'm in favor of banning it this year. 128 00:08:47,650 --> 00:08:49,030 I have a hard time with that. 129 00:08:49,290 --> 00:08:49,590 I don't know. 130 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,800 I know there's a lot of people who feel that way. There's also a lot of people who really like fireworks. 131 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,920 So it's the top line. 132 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,860 And Simarons the south side. 133 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:17,460 There's plenty of open fields in that area. But do you know how this map was drawn in the first place? 134 00:09:17,460 --> 00:09:26,980 So, when we originally did it, we did it based on the areas of what we're trying to do is 135 00:09:26,980 --> 00:09:27,620 and it's limited. 136 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:35,180 And inside of the city, it's easier because also it's curbing better at presses and stuff like that. 137 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,640 So, I don't have a lot of other education. 138 00:09:37,380 --> 00:09:38,180 I'm here earlier. 139 00:09:38,820 --> 00:09:46,960 It's difficult because the cities don't necessarily think the residential areas don't have curbing. 140 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:54,800 And so I still have a ditch. I still have. So, honestly, I'm on board with, I can have some of you raise your condition. 141 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:06,580 The problem that I have with many is not just that people like fireworks. It's those people who like fireworks are going to go someplace else to shoot fireworks. 142 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:13,720 Then usually that's a big scan, and then I have a fire of a big scan, but I don't have 143 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:20,840 homes of big scan, and so the way off, the payoffs and the week's measures are difficult. 144 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:21,640 That's right. 145 00:10:21,820 --> 00:10:27,240 I'm remembering that discussion from previous years about how we felt like it was better 146 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,720 to allow some in a certain area than it is to ban it because of the risk of it going 147 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:32,440 to the wrong place. 148 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,340 I don't know if that's true, it's pretty subjective, but... 149 00:10:36,340 --> 00:10:37,420 Absolutely, subjective. 150 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:44,520 So my recommendation, obviously, would be to keep them after way it is. 151 00:10:45,020 --> 00:10:50,180 And then let's look at it next year to restrict those faces a little bit closer. 152 00:10:50,700 --> 00:11:00,360 So it's just those residential calms and keeps the area away from the fields and the higher hazards. 153 00:11:01,180 --> 00:11:11,760 So what we did that this year, for example, the MAC was due by tomorrow at the reverse. 154 00:11:13,380 --> 00:11:20,560 And so I don't really have a lot of time to make them in this, but then we have, if we 155 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:27,620 did take it where the area should be, and you get, it's up to you as a senior counsel 156 00:11:27,620 --> 00:11:35,400 to make that vote, not to be inspired, not to make it a condition, but it's your work. 157 00:11:35,540 --> 00:11:36,160 It's your work. 158 00:11:36,460 --> 00:11:38,900 Like what you say goes, I just support you guys. 159 00:11:40,940 --> 00:11:43,500 If you want, we can do it. 160 00:11:43,900 --> 00:11:49,120 It requires a vote, and you're not going to need it until after the back of the state. 161 00:11:52,580 --> 00:11:55,460 So frankly, your choices are accepted, and I have to work. 162 00:11:58,170 --> 00:12:00,090 So here's what's on my mind, 163 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:08,560 south of Urdua, there's gasoline waiting to be burnt, we call it 164 00:12:08,560 --> 00:12:17,960 cheats grass. And north of Church River, all the old wailing property is the same condition. 165 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:23,500 And it won't take, you won't take a match to set that off. 166 00:12:27,140 --> 00:12:32,560 So at a hard time, seeing people that live on the Galilean church road, 167 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,820 similar on being able to set off fireworks. 168 00:12:39,660 --> 00:12:43,940 Because they won't, they won't have to land on fire in order to let it. 169 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,920 And those fields specifically will burn like gas. 170 00:12:48,260 --> 00:12:48,480 Of 171 00:12:53,220 --> 00:12:55,180 course, 172 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,240 there's the option of just banning aerials. 173 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,460 right so there can only be stuff on the ground. 174 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,160 I think we could modify our ordinance that in that regard, but I'm not sure. 175 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:20,340 Well, I can set on my front porch and around the fourth and the 24th and I know that they're not just being shot off in these two designated areas are gone. 176 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:27,720 Anybody that's got them shooting them off of their house, they're not going to a central place to shoot them. 177 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:46,720 Yeah, so what does that mean for us the fire starts are liable for the fire either way. I think whether they're legal or illegal, but that's what I don't understand. I don't understand. Does this banning them actually accomplish something or not? 178 00:13:50,860 --> 00:13:51,820 Yeah, I don't know. 179 00:13:52,300 --> 00:13:55,240 The thing with ban on them is how we're going to get the word up. 180 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,560 Where everybody knows it for ban. 181 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,080 Well, stop them. 182 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,180 It's a big sign on their marquee. 183 00:14:02,260 --> 00:14:03,700 They have whether fire stations. 184 00:14:03,700 --> 00:14:07,540 So everybody going in and out ignorance of the law is not an excuse. 185 00:14:08,180 --> 00:14:12,800 But certainly people expect communication from us. 186 00:14:16,450 --> 00:14:17,690 We've 187 00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:29,430 already had internal specials in the city of campaigns and civil science, the state. 188 00:14:29,970 --> 00:14:36,490 A little fight losing stands very, there's no fireworks in the stand very, part of the county. 189 00:14:37,350 --> 00:14:39,210 That's where we mostly have our big problems. 190 00:14:39,630 --> 00:14:42,990 If anyone's listening, no one listens. 191 00:14:43,570 --> 00:14:48,080 It's a fire pressure, but I think it's very, very difficult to see. 192 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:57,440 So, Lake Point City does a permit system. What does that accomplish exactly? 193 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,900 So, it's working. 194 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,620 Public education systems, that's how they have it, how they have it done. If you like to choose fireworks, you go to the city recorder. She gives you their ordinance. And inside their ordinance has education material. Don't don't shoot fireworks. You have this feature. You have to order early March to fly and then chill and then the city recorder will allow the permits to be given. 195 00:15:29,620 --> 00:15:37,100 even if it's right next to a middlefall or something like that and so they have a little 196 00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:45,380 bit of a little bit of say to whether they have a little bit of shooters as well, it's 197 00:15:45,380 --> 00:15:53,300 a little bit of a burden on just the record however there's a $25 fee that is associated 198 00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:55,780 with that permit that pays for that time. 199 00:15:55,780 --> 00:15:58,820 How long has that permit allowed for? 200 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,720 I don't know. 201 00:16:02,140 --> 00:16:06,180 I assume it's that you only get 24 hours a day after. 202 00:16:06,740 --> 00:16:09,560 So I'm assuming it's three days. 203 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:10,240 Three days. 204 00:16:11,700 --> 00:16:12,740 Because the. 205 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,240 It will change. 206 00:16:19,470 --> 00:16:20,590 Should I get it for both? 207 00:16:21,410 --> 00:16:22,050 Just for the July. 208 00:16:22,430 --> 00:16:25,530 I don't remember. 209 00:16:26,030 --> 00:16:27,390 I don't I don't. 210 00:16:27,390 --> 00:16:28,210 I don't know. 211 00:16:29,230 --> 00:16:32,110 So I guess the same as it is of me, seeing the list. 212 00:16:33,670 --> 00:16:38,230 I think it's too late for, yeah, we can't do it this year, but it's something to talk 213 00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:38,530 about. 214 00:16:40,610 --> 00:16:42,130 I do like the permit idea at all. 215 00:16:42,370 --> 00:16:44,010 That's what Lake Point does, too. 216 00:16:44,750 --> 00:16:45,690 That's what I was talking about. 217 00:16:46,050 --> 00:16:49,190 I attended the Lake Point City Council meeting, and that's where I heard the idea. 218 00:16:50,530 --> 00:16:53,630 I just am not sure if it, what it accomplishes. 219 00:16:53,630 --> 00:16:57,810 So we presented the idea to you guys here before last year. 220 00:17:00,470 --> 00:17:02,450 I just decided to see what the map was. 221 00:17:06,220 --> 00:17:06,920 That's fine. 222 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:07,460 Yeah. 223 00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:08,440 I don't remember. 224 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,520 So it's probably good for you to remind us. 225 00:17:13,900 --> 00:17:14,380 Well, 226 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,300 not a fireworks person. 227 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:18,200 Yeah. 228 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,980 But people are just because I'm not. 229 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,040 There was people are. 230 00:17:22,260 --> 00:17:23,560 I traditionally am, 231 00:17:23,780 --> 00:17:26,220 but I have not felt good about it the last few years. 232 00:17:26,220 --> 00:17:33,660 and we do a few little things in my house, but we're careful and reserved and usually 233 00:17:33,660 --> 00:17:36,980 don't allow any aerials because of the risk, you know. 234 00:17:38,180 --> 00:17:41,560 I take them someplace else where it's allowed and where it's safer. 235 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,620 I just don't know if we accomplish something by banning it or not, that's what I don't 236 00:17:47,620 --> 00:17:47,900 understand. 237 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:54,340 they're still going to happen. That's what I'm wondering. Yeah. So by, by, 238 00:17:57,420 --> 00:18:06,620 yeah. Yeah. Where do we do it? The ballpark? 239 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,480 I 240 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,820 think I could be swayed either way probably. 241 00:18:26,180 --> 00:18:30,980 That'd be a good idea and then we can take a whole year to educate people. 242 00:18:31,100 --> 00:18:36,580 Next year, we're going to either ban them or no aerials or whatever it is. 243 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,960 That's my strength to map. 244 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:39,660 Yeah. 245 00:18:40,060 --> 00:18:40,320 Next. 246 00:18:40,660 --> 00:18:40,700 Thanks. 247 00:18:41,580 --> 00:18:41,800 Thank you. 248 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,120 I can work on. 249 00:18:46,360 --> 00:18:46,420 Continue. 250 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,360 You're probably able to. 251 00:18:48,900 --> 00:18:49,860 Is that something to do that? 252 00:18:50,020 --> 00:18:50,360 But then. 253 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:53,720 It's worth looking at. 254 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:54,180 I just. 255 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,540 I don't like making different government more difficult. 256 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:57,060 I don't. 257 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,280 I just want to make sure we're serving. 258 00:18:59,100 --> 00:18:59,740 The citizens. 259 00:18:59,820 --> 00:19:00,600 And of course we have. 260 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:03,440 One set of citizens that are very concerned about this. 261 00:19:03,540 --> 00:19:05,840 And another set of citizens that want to be able to light fireworks. 262 00:19:06,140 --> 00:19:06,420 So. 263 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:14,580 and they're both. So yeah. Okay. Well, it sounds like we have a couple people in favor. 264 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,740 Does anybody want to make a motion? We've got multiple people here with different opinions. 265 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,860 The motion to accept completely this. 266 00:19:30,170 --> 00:19:31,090 Anyone go to second? 267 00:19:31,310 --> 00:19:35,390 I'll second. Okay. Kyle, how do you vote? Yes. 268 00:19:35,390 --> 00:19:35,530 Yes. 269 00:19:36,030 --> 00:19:36,350 Slide. 270 00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:36,910 Yes. 271 00:19:37,530 --> 00:19:38,230 Scott. 272 00:19:41,850 --> 00:19:42,200 Larry. 273 00:19:42,990 --> 00:19:43,230 Yes. 274 00:19:43,990 --> 00:19:45,690 Sheldon I.M. 275 00:19:45,930 --> 00:19:46,110 Yes. 276 00:19:46,670 --> 00:19:47,170 Okay. 277 00:19:47,370 --> 00:19:48,030 Thank you. 278 00:19:53,530 --> 00:19:54,530 Let's see. 279 00:19:55,150 --> 00:20:02,290 Number six is the discussion of our proposed budget for next year, 2026, 2027 budget. 280 00:20:03,230 --> 00:20:09,090 We need to have our public hearing and any discussion on it, which do we want to do first? 281 00:20:14,850 --> 00:20:22,170 I agree. I don't know. I just I'm not sure why we haven't changed any of the things that we discussed last week or last time, but 282 00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:33,110 And then we 283 00:20:35,700 --> 00:20:39,840 also have discussed whether we need to increase our salaries and wages under 284 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:50,820 the recorder category because we have discussed increasing Jocelyn's hours, pay a little 285 00:20:52,660 --> 00:21:00,360 hours. I don't know because I don't know where we are year to date. 286 00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:09,410 No it's on the one two three 287 00:21:09,410 --> 00:21:17,790 fourth page so actual for fiscal year 25 was 47,000 that was before we hired Jesse Lynn our budget 288 00:21:17,790 --> 00:21:23,890 for 2026 or 60,000. I don't know where we're at compared to our budget for 2026. 289 00:21:36,260 --> 00:21:36,960 Okay, 290 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:54,300 maybe we can see it. What's on the second page? Well, those are expenditures. Okay, so budget. 291 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:03,100 So fiscal year 25, we budgeted for 47,000 and we extended 77,000. 292 00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:21,200 In fiscal year 26, we budgeted for $60,000, and it says expenditures of $86,000, but I'm surprised that that is in perfectly round number, so no, that's a budget, not an expenditure, 293 00:22:23,850 --> 00:22:28,710 but that doesn't make sense. How can we have budgeted for $60 and budgeted for $86? 294 00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:33,350 6. That's total. That's not only way because it's benefits. 295 00:22:34,570 --> 00:22:40,790 Oh, okay. So that's the full budget. Okay. That's this budget breaks down all of that. I see that. 296 00:22:41,630 --> 00:22:45,430 So we still don't know where we are here today and whether we need to increase it or not. 297 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:52,380 Where are 298 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,860 we 299 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:07,400 at? 300 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,340 She says she's trying to find the most recent one. 301 00:23:10,340 --> 00:23:11,280 And we 302 00:23:14,610 --> 00:23:18,130 also don't yet have our police fees. 303 00:23:18,510 --> 00:23:21,030 I don't know has this, the dispatch fee, 304 00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:25,650 has our budget been a, we do have our new dispatch fees. 305 00:23:26,130 --> 00:23:27,830 So has the budget, is the budget appropriate 306 00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:30,750 based on our new dispatch fee that we just signed 307 00:23:30,750 --> 00:23:31,730 as with the interlocal? 308 00:23:33,050 --> 00:23:33,510 Okay. 309 00:23:36,050 --> 00:23:37,730 And when I spoke with the sheriff, my manager, 310 00:23:38,330 --> 00:23:42,090 he said it wasn't anticipated much of an increase 311 00:23:42,090 --> 00:23:50,170 if there was. We had we had a padding. That seemed like to me was going to cover that. Okay. Good. 312 00:23:52,250 --> 00:23:53,570 Any luck finding that, Jim? 313 00:23:59,010 --> 00:24:01,490 Can you just tell us where we are on salaries and wages? 314 00:24:10,780 --> 00:24:12,840 We don't have lines. 315 00:24:16,660 --> 00:24:33,050 We're in city quarter, city recorder, general fund, continued under salaries and wages where it breaks down, salaries, wages, benefits, office, supplies, and then it has a total number and we're just wondering what the salaries and wages are. 316 00:24:34,610 --> 00:24:37,890 What benefits would there be? 317 00:24:49,340 --> 00:24:59,140 Okay, so we don't know the number. So let's find out the number. Scott, can you find out the number and just make sure the budget's prepared with an appropriate number and for next time. 318 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,640 So what's our proposal to increase? 319 00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:05,440 We don't know until we know what the number is. 320 00:25:05,980 --> 00:25:09,240 We need to know where we are at year-to-date compared to our budget. 321 00:25:11,910 --> 00:25:12,670 Are we at budget? 322 00:25:12,810 --> 00:25:13,510 Are we below budget? 323 00:25:13,610 --> 00:25:15,210 Are we above budget for the current year? 324 00:25:23,950 --> 00:25:28,710 And so then the follow-up question is do we have enough slush in there to handle increasing 325 00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:36,200 suggestions hours or do we need to increase it? So how much do we need to increase that? 326 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:45,280 Just talking about more hours per day. Yes, so she's currently approved at 10 to 12 hours a week 327 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:50,080 and I'd like to propose that we increase her to 15 to 18 hours a week. 328 00:25:59,010 --> 00:25:59,830 So just make sure our 329 00:25:59,830 --> 00:26:04,750 budget number is appropriate to handle that. She's good with that. I hope so. 330 00:26:11,010 --> 00:26:12,310 That's primarily because 331 00:26:13,610 --> 00:26:19,830 I'm seeing we're pushing the limits of those hours already with the way the city is growing 332 00:26:19,830 --> 00:26:23,750 and their responsibilities are growing. So, in order to- 333 00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:25,930 We're trying to talk about 18 hours. 334 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,580 Yeah, so it's not a big increase. 335 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,660 But she would extend as well- 336 00:26:32,660 --> 00:26:35,080 The 50% increase for Gessiline. 337 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,640 Oh, thanks. 338 00:26:36,980 --> 00:26:38,760 Especially the number of hours. 339 00:26:39,140 --> 00:26:40,440 You're going to have to go to every hour. 340 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:49,560 and that should help prevent us from having Jennifer going over her a lot of 341 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,660 hours yeah yeah okay 342 00:26:56,780 --> 00:27:00,100 any other discussion on the budget okay I'm 343 00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:07,640 motion we open public hearing on on the 2026 2027 annual budget all and is 344 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,380 that in all in favor? All in favor? 345 00:27:10,740 --> 00:27:11,300 Aye. 346 00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:15,440 Okay, anyone want to comment on our budget? 347 00:27:20,140 --> 00:27:21,500 Yeah, motion to be closed for public hearing. 348 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,000 All in favor? Aye. 349 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:24,440 Aye. 350 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:25,280 Thank you. 351 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,180 And next item is council representative reports. 352 00:27:29,860 --> 00:27:30,140 Kyle. 353 00:27:32,540 --> 00:27:34,060 Thank you, Clyde. 354 00:27:35,420 --> 00:27:38,700 Went to the planning commission Tuesday night. 355 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:44,840 If they okayed, I'm going to be awarding right on the 356 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:52,510 preliminary black or copper coal with the stipulation that all the trails have to be 357 00:27:53,470 --> 00:27:56,550 hard concrete or maybe. 358 00:27:59,650 --> 00:28:04,010 I'm glad to hear that, I'm glad to hear both of those things, I believe that was always 359 00:28:04,010 --> 00:28:04,610 the intention. 360 00:28:04,610 --> 00:28:05,290 They 361 00:28:08,970 --> 00:28:12,450 even went to support and make sure they're properly compacted. 362 00:28:12,830 --> 00:28:16,630 No, they just don't want something put on the ear like it is. 363 00:28:18,450 --> 00:28:18,930 Okay. 364 00:28:20,290 --> 00:28:21,830 See how that looks out. 365 00:28:22,090 --> 00:28:23,450 How we enforce that. 366 00:28:25,470 --> 00:28:25,950 Spections. 367 00:28:27,550 --> 00:28:32,850 I drove by some set last week sometime and went down in. 368 00:28:32,970 --> 00:28:34,970 It looks like they've already put their trail in. 369 00:28:34,970 --> 00:28:35,050 Yeah. 370 00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:36,790 Do you have that? 371 00:28:36,910 --> 00:28:38,850 They've got a really nice golf cart road. 372 00:28:40,690 --> 00:28:44,250 There are some of the trails already put in there. 373 00:28:45,470 --> 00:28:45,710 Okay. 374 00:28:46,450 --> 00:28:46,790 Great. 375 00:28:49,270 --> 00:28:50,070 Anything else? 376 00:28:50,490 --> 00:28:50,850 To report? 377 00:28:52,050 --> 00:28:52,710 Nope. 378 00:28:53,550 --> 00:28:53,850 Okay. 379 00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:55,250 Scott? 380 00:28:56,250 --> 00:28:56,910 Larry? 381 00:28:57,710 --> 00:28:57,810 Good. 382 00:29:00,890 --> 00:29:05,510 Scott, are you planning to attend the RPO meeting, the real planning organization meeting? 383 00:29:08,430 --> 00:29:12,650 it is coming up 384 00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:17,470 sometime. Let's see. 385 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,040 Here it is. It is Monday, June 8, that 130. 386 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:32,340 It's 387 00:29:32,340 --> 00:29:36,060 usually in the council chambers. Does it say that here? 388 00:29:42,780 --> 00:29:43,920 It doesn't say that here. I 389 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,440 don't think but that's what I would assume. There is also a Zoom option. 390 00:29:49,780 --> 00:29:52,200 It says 130 p.m. 391 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:52,780 Yep. 392 00:29:58,060 --> 00:29:59,000 And the V8. 393 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,500 If you can't make it, let me know, and I will see if I can. 394 00:30:09,150 --> 00:30:10,730 I like I'm forgetting something. 395 00:30:12,110 --> 00:30:20,030 I got something coming up, but they didn't give the date for if we were invited to it. 396 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,020 I'm just trying to see if I will sit on it. 397 00:30:29,740 --> 00:30:30,520 Thank you. 398 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,280 While you find that, we're invited to attend the Energy Solutions Aquatic Center Grand Reopening 399 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:42,160 a re-grand opening on Monday, I think. 400 00:30:44,510 --> 00:30:48,070 The grand reopening of the Deseret Peak swimming pool, 401 00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:54,360 Deseret Peak Aquatic Center, yeah. 402 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:57,440 Oh, contracts. 403 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:03,140 Clyde, I sent you, I did reach out to the county about renewing our interlocal agreements 404 00:31:03,140 --> 00:31:04,080 with the county. 405 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,780 They sent me the proposed contract, the county says they are in favor of renewing the 406 00:31:10,780 --> 00:31:16,780 contracts. They don't have any problems with that. The, I sent you the proposed contractor. 407 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:22,880 As far as I can tell, there's no change except that we do have to get the new policing 408 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:28,680 number from the county auditor and add that to the contract. So that number's not there. 409 00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:32,560 But I emailed that to you in case you want to take a look at it. John, do you need to see 410 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,140 that at all? Okay, I'll send that to you as well. We don't have to take any action on that 411 00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:39,840 Right. Yeah, but I just want to let you know that I'm working on it. 412 00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:43,320 The law enforcement number. 413 00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:47,320 So then the number that we pay the county for law enforcement. 414 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,620 Oh, money. Yep. Sorry. 415 00:31:53,420 --> 00:31:58,060 Well, I guess I guess I'm else left to go through the email to the day. 416 00:31:58,180 --> 00:32:01,260 And there's advisory committee at a meeting yesterday. 417 00:32:01,620 --> 00:32:02,680 I guess so that doesn't do any. 418 00:32:03,020 --> 00:32:06,980 As long as we attend any event, more of it, which advisory committee, 419 00:32:06,980 --> 00:32:08,020 are we talking about? 420 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:23,320 I saw that email as well and could not attend. I don't 421 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,640 remember what it was for. 422 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,840 I think it was was a transportation. 423 00:32:35,380 --> 00:32:36,480 I think it was 424 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,740 want us to want us there and participating in that discussion and it's a good idea for us to 425 00:32:40,740 --> 00:32:46,840 participate in as many of those committees and discussions as possible but I couldn't I couldn't make 426 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:56,920 that one so feel free to go but I think but I think these two are roads department right yeah so if 427 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,140 one of them wants to go they should have first dibs. I'll make sure what it's not like this next time 428 00:33:02,140 --> 00:33:10,100 no open it up to the right. Okay, sounds good. Did you find it Larry? I did not. Then it's not real. 429 00:33:12,540 --> 00:33:21,720 No, I sent a request back to whatever sent that. What day is this? I haven't got anything back. Okay, 430 00:33:22,860 --> 00:33:29,260 so I'm not going to worry. If I find it, I'll give you a call. Okay, sounds good. 431 00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:31,540 It's all I've got. 432 00:33:34,390 --> 00:33:35,310 Motion to adjourn. 433 00:33:36,250 --> 00:33:37,670 Wait, John says no. 434 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,720 Oh, yes, yes. 435 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,060 So may I ask questions about it now? 436 00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:56,960 Yeah, I don't either, but I read through it. 437 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,040 It didn't seem to really enlighten me very much. 438 00:34:00,140 --> 00:34:03,540 It didn't seem to have, it didn't seem to draw any real conclusions. 439 00:34:03,540 --> 00:34:07,340 Is that your document or was that prepared for us by someone else? 440 00:34:14,290 --> 00:34:15,410 Okay, but it... 441 00:34:16,610 --> 00:34:22,870 All right. Well, I might need to talk about it with you then because I'm not sure I really understand what the points are that they're making there. 442 00:34:23,790 --> 00:34:26,350 As I read it, I just didn't follow it very well. 443 00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:27,690 Did you send one to everybody? 444 00:34:28,590 --> 00:34:28,730 Yeah. 445 00:34:28,730 --> 00:34:30,710 I'll just spend a second. 446 00:34:30,830 --> 00:34:34,750 Well, two weeks ago, oh, I might have been gone. 447 00:34:35,950 --> 00:34:38,250 And maybe just for the public discourse, 448 00:34:38,530 --> 00:34:40,450 can you give us an update on the lawsuit? 449 00:34:42,630 --> 00:34:43,650 Yeah, I have a hearing. 450 00:34:44,910 --> 00:34:46,410 And Jeff took under advised. 451 00:34:47,550 --> 00:34:52,300 And said, another day, thank you, you're welcome. 452 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,740 Welcome to welcome. 453 00:34:53,820 --> 00:34:54,560 You left us now. 454 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,200 So we thought the judge was going to rule on our hearing 455 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:13,600 two weeks ago he did not rule he asked for more time basically right yeah yeah okay all right 456 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,420 anything else should 457 00:35:18,110 --> 00:35:20,630 we make a real motion to adjourn next I 458 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,120 motion to the adjourn all in favor bye thanks