[0:05] [clears throat] [0:08] Roll call for the city council meeting of Wednesday, September 2nd at 9:00 a.m. [0:13] Council members Titus >> here. [0:15] » Brzinski >> present. [0:17] » Flores. >> Horton [0:19] » here. >> Paul [0:20] » here. >> Shaw [0:21] » here. >> Troop [0:23] » yes. [0:26] » We had a little bit of a a spill issue. So, we're going to just have to grab a [0:30] towel. Okay. >> All right. Pay no attention to what's [0:34] happening behind the curtain on the left of stage. [0:38] [laughter] >> Um, we will go ahead and stand for the [0:42] pledge of allegiance. Uh, starting with a moment of silence. [0:46] » Dr. Titus, if I may. Um, thank you. I would, uh, to think of today uh, Sister [0:54] Maria Assumpta Rousa, Sisters of St. Joseph who was 89 years old and she had [1:03] passed away August 31st in her 70th year of religious life. So um that's [1:13] remarkable service and uh a friend Pete Griswinsky who passed away on Sunday uh [1:22] or Saturday night of uh accident on a ebike in West Springfield. And for the [1:30] driver as well because that's a nightmare. Thank you. [1:33] » Thank you. [1:44] I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic [1:51] for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and [1:58] justice for all. [2:04] Motion to accept the minutes from the August 19th city council meeting and [2:08] bills for payment on September 4th and 11th, 2026. Members Brzinski, [2:14] » yes. >> Flores, [2:15] » yes. >> Horton, [2:16] » yes. >> Pull, [2:17] » yes. >> Sha, [2:18] » yes. >> Troop, [2:19] » yes. >> Titus, [2:20] » yes. [2:24] » So, I believe there are no presentations this morning. Um, is there anybody here [2:30] to speak on a repository sale? >> Come up to the microphone. [2:41] » Sir, if you're when you're finished, could you go into the clerk's office and [2:44] give her a copy of your license? >> Of course. [2:47] » Thank you. >> And there should be a list of questions [2:49] that that are up at the podium there. Y and those are the questions that we if [2:54] you could read those and then just uh answer those for us. But if you wanted [2:56] to just say your name and then the address of the property as well. [3:00] » Okay. >> I'm Cristiano Ferrari. I'm from Las [3:04] Vegas and uh my company is CJ Ferrari. Um I [3:12] p I actually started the purchase of six vacant lots and one uh duplex [3:20] um couple weeks ago and that's why I was called here. So the first uh question is [3:27] is the property vacant or does it have a structure on it? So supposedly be six [3:34] vacant lots but uh few of them have some kind of structure on it probably from [3:41] the previous owner as a background uh backyard uh some playgrounds. So few of [3:49] them have that and three four of them have nothing just threes and a high [3:55] grass. Uh and one has a duplex on it. Okay. My plans and intentions for the [4:04] properties. So the last year I've been um [4:10] really uh uh merging to tax property sales. So I've been [4:17] studying a lot about this and uh my understanding is not everybody knows [4:22] about the how the the the properties are being sold the repository list and my [4:28] intention of course it's uh um towards profit but also brings the properties [4:34] back to the productive use right u responsible ownership paying taxes and [4:41] maintaining the lots and developing whatever I can do to help the city also [4:46] grows. So that's my my intention. Uh the condition the properties are in they're [4:53] vary right ones have a big grass. I have the pictures. I visited myself the last [5:01] uh probably year. I've been in Erie seven times already. I can fly in um in [5:08] one day. It's a 4-hour flight. So I I can if anything that needs to be done, [5:14] I'll be here in one day or or something like that. Uh [5:20] do I live near the property? No, I live in Las Vegas, but again, it's a 4-hour [5:25] flight. I came yesterday uh um night and uh I'm flying today. Um how I'm going to [5:33] provide maintenance of the property. So, um, the last I I also already have a [5:41] property near on East 22nd which I purchased on a judicial sale and got [5:48] granted the deed couple weeks ago and uh I'm maintaining the property with uh a [5:55] relationship that I already made with a real estate agent, some companies, the [6:00] construction companies that you know have providing services. So that's my um [6:07] basic my my relationship group and and growing moving forward. If this uh it's [6:14] something that I'm I'm going to be able to do in in in Erie um I'm going to have [6:20] this people around and and partners to work with. Okay. [6:26] And uh have you confirmed that any plans made for the property comply with all [6:32] codes? So we um me and my wife that basically do the all the researches. We [6:38] called the zoning department. We called everybody and the information was that [6:43] any that's nothing uh that [clears throat] doesn't uh uh allowed us [6:49] to build or any violation on anything yet. Okay. But if we got granted, then [6:56] of course we're going to have to go through the process and see what uh what [7:00] it needs to be done to bring it up back to code [7:05] and uh yeah. No, I didn't have any code valuation in the last three years. [7:10] » Okay. Go ahead, council. Sorry. >> Um I have a question. You said that one [7:14] of the um prop well one of the I don't know one of them is a duplex. Do you [7:19] have renters living there currently or is it a vacant? [7:22] » So that's the problem. I didn't want to step in. So, the only thing I did, I [7:27] took pictures on the sides. It looks empty, but I also I saw a cat on the [7:33] window and I saw some belonging. And that's my questions like is that any way [7:38] that I can ask somebody to verify there's anybody living there? How that [7:44] works? Well, if it's on for the sale up on the [7:50] repository sales, it should be vacant from [7:54] » It doesn't look it. Yeah. >> Are you able to give us the address? [7:59] » Do you have the address for that? >> 112 11:22 Wayne Street. [8:06] » So, I I again, I went there. I look around. I didn't want to, you know, try [8:11] to open any doors or anything like that because I know that's [8:15] » counselor Flores, Dr. Titus. >> Yes. [8:18] » Uh just because it's on the repository uh sale does not mean uh that it's [8:24] vacant. >> The landlord could be losing. [8:26] » Well, even if there's not a lease agreement, you just don't know who's [8:30] living there or or squatted or you we we just don't know. Uh if it's a someone [8:37] could have may be deceased and it could be a family member uh that's been served [8:42] notice notice notice. Uh but we you almost have to send somebody out and [8:47] make sure that nobody lives there or nobody's there. [8:51] » Put a point on that. I've been doing this in the last six months and I've [8:55] encountered some situations also that when you buy from the repository there [9:00] still people living in it because many factors could be applied as as a you [9:05] know somebody to seize or nobody knows about that property and yeah [9:11] » but I don't have the the way to knock the door so if you guys can help me out [9:16] » if you just leave the address and make sure our clerk has it someone from our [9:21] I'm Sure, we can send someone out from our code enforcement. They probably, and [9:26] if it's on the repository sale, I would I would go out on a limb and say that [9:30] they already have extensive records uh of of trying to make contact uh with [9:36] someone uh which still uh which still doesn't mean that someone hasn't taken [9:42] residency. Yeah. As to your point, >> of course. Yeah. [9:46] » And [clears throat] who is the person that I can't contact or I somebody [9:50] contact me? how that works. >> We we'll get your contact information um [9:55] after. We'll have you go fill out information with the clerk's office and [9:57] then um we'll do some internal discussion around this too. So, no, we [10:01] won't vote on anything [snorts] today. So, there's still information has to go [10:04] with council and then we'll get some back to you. [10:06] » Okay. >> And I just have one more question. You [10:09] said that you do own a property in the city that you have tenants as of a few [10:13] weeks. >> No, it's a vacant lot. [10:14] » Oh, so it's a vacant. >> It's East 22nd Street. [10:16] » East which I purchased on the judicial sale. the last judicial show in uh [10:21] January. >> Uh what's that address if I may inquire [10:26] on 22nd Street? I know it's not a structure there, but what was the [10:30] » address to it? Um let me get >> what's the adjoining, you know, is it [10:35] between German and Holland is my interest. I have the parcel number and I [10:40] have the the the address the next door which [10:44] » uh the the owner of that house it was the owner of the property as well and [10:51] both properties went to judicial >> if [10:54] » but he he he paid it back the house. So >> if you if you would just pro provide the [10:59] address for that way I can I know I can tell you what block it is or the block [11:04] that I'm interested in. The block I'm more interested in. It's probably the 2 [11:09] to 300 block or the 3 to 400. I mean excuse me the one to 200 block. [11:13] » Actually I think it's the 2 to 300 block. [11:16] » So the properties >> quite a few vacant lots there and we own [11:20] quite a few of them through our land bank. So [11:23] » for redevelopment >> 1253 East 22nd. [11:28] » Okay. So that's >> next to the corner. [11:30] » Mhm. >> Which the old the old owner was Jeffrey. [11:35] » I know exactly. And it's over by Mckenley Park or Pennsylvania Avenue I [11:40] think is or Brandis is the 1200 block over there. It's a park not far from the [11:45] park there. >> Yeah. It's a park [11:46] » in the school. Mckenley. It's I know exactly where you're talking about. [11:51] Yes, >> sir. Did you say you just put the bids [11:56] in on these properties? >> Yes. [11:58] » I don't think that we've gotten the information yet to to have council [12:02] review it. >> Yes, I got this list from Pamela. [12:08] » Okay. >> And that's the reason I'm here. [12:10] » Okay. >> So, this is uh [12:15] I started this uh two weeks, three weeks ago. two weeks ago. [12:20] » All right. >> Yeah. And then they should send me the [12:27] » So, we will follow up, make sure that we've got the applications that have [12:30] been completed. Um, and then we can be in touch once we get that information uh [12:36] » here as council, but we won't vote on anything today. We still have to look at [12:39] all the packets, >> of course. Yeah. And I also [12:43] I also have all the receipts that the the the [12:50] Oops. So, all the payments that I already did. [12:53] » Okay. >> So, if any Okay. [12:56] » We'll have our clerk in the clerk's office take copies of everything for [12:59] you. You can just walk right through the door. She's in there. Thank you so much. [13:04] » Right [clears throat] through that door. >> Yeah. [13:06] » Thank you. Thank you, >> Dr. Titus. I just want to enter into the [13:10] record, too, because the duplex you have a situation where uh it may be someone [13:16] living in one and not the other. where they both could be occupied or [13:21] unoccupied and I just want that to be duly noted as well. [13:26] » We'll loop back with um with the administration make sure that [13:30] we we go especially over with code and have that checked out. Thank you. Is [13:34] there anybody else here for repository sale? Anyone else here to speak on a [13:39] repository sale? Anyone else to speak on repository sale? [13:45] Okay. At this time then we will move into uh public comment. Um so when you [13:51] come up to the podium make sure that you are signing in uh that's over here this [13:55] little desk over here printing your name clearly and that you when you come up to [13:59] the podium you state your name clearly and the municipality in which you reside [14:02] and note that you will have 5 minutes. We will have a timer go off so please be [14:06] mindful when that timer goes off your time is up. Um but once you're signed in [14:11] go ahead. [14:14] » [clears throat] >> I'm going to get to the point. [14:18] Got a little bit of a frog in the throat. You know how that goes. Can you [14:21] hear me? >> Yes. [14:22] » All right. Um, what concerns me is these >> Could you just state your state your [14:27] name? >> David French, Lower East Side. [14:29] » Thank you. >> These ebikes who choose not to use the [14:34] bike path, they insist on using the sidewalks. And when you see them coming, [14:40] it's not that big a deal. But when they're coming behind you, they seem [14:43] like they want to get kind of close to you. And I've been in a couple pretty [14:48] bad car accidents in my life and survive them. But I'm getting a little [14:52] frustrated with it. A lot of these people that have the ebikes don't have a [14:57] driver's license. That's why they got these. So I think the regulations are [15:02] need to be um expedited because there's already been [15:07] some accidents. the bus drivers are kind of tired of the whole situation and I'll [15:13] leave it at that because it's a technology that is really getting out of [15:18] hand and I don't want to see anybody get hurt. Thank you so much. [15:22] » Thank you. >> Thank you. And usually we don't do the [15:24] public comment back and forth, but I do think that this is an important actually [15:27] like public service announcement that the ebikes still are required to follow [15:31] the rules uh and the laws regarding a motorized vehicle. And it's correct and [15:37] but that's more for for ebike riders to be aware that they are still expected to [15:43] follow follow those laws and that they can have consequences when they don't. [15:46] But absolutely noted. >> Thank you so much. [15:49] » Thank you, Dr. Titus. Yes. >> I'm I'm not sure. I I cuz I I thought I [15:56] read somewhere it has an engine on there. They're considering that you do [16:00] have to have >> license, driver's license to be on the [16:04] road. And I'm not sure that the public is even educated about that stuff. And [16:10] we're we're educating uh we had a contract on here to educate about [16:14] autotheft. Uh maybe we ought to do a campaign about ebikes too before some of [16:20] our residents get really really hurt uh out here. I I think that u summer's [16:26] coming and we've been blessed not to have as many motorcycle fatalities as [16:30] we've had in years gone by. Uh but I fully expect without an education [16:35] campaign of some sort uh right down to proper uh wear and how to protect [16:40] yourself with protective clothing uh we're going to see a rise on those type [16:45] of things. It it was actually covered on the news last night or the night before [16:49] that there's more injuries of adolescent and young adults based off of the ebike [16:55] because they're getting hit. They're having upper body um injuries. They're [17:01] having to um have like broken arms, broken wrists um and they're not wearing [17:06] head gear. So, they're having a lot of concussions. So, it's it's up and a lot [17:10] of the like um pediat pediatricians on the national level have brought alert to [17:16] this issue. So, I'm not sure what we're doing, but I know that they recommended [17:20] that even though your older kids don't want to wear a helmet, please encourage [17:25] them wear a helmet when they're riding these ebikes because the the injuries [17:28] are severe. I actually think I see more of those on the road than I do pedal [17:34] bikes >> nowadays, you know, which I'm very proud [17:37] to say that I still own and and hope to get back riding uh soon. [17:44] » Duly noted by all members of council. Um and I don't want to get us too far away [17:47] from from public comment, but I noted and even put a little asterisk in ink in [17:52] my in my because this is something that we do need to and have needed to address [17:56] for a minute. Um, any other members who would of the of the public who would [18:00] like to make public comment are here to speak. [18:17] Good morning, Cindy Triber, born and raised in Erie, currently living in [18:21] Edinburgh. Um, if I may first just ask whatever God spiritual entity you [18:27] believe in, can you please be praying for our military over in the Middle East [18:31] right now, including my loved one? Um, wanted to talk to you all about the [18:38] Council for Police Review Collaboration, whatever we're going to be calling this. [18:44] Um it is my understanding and I would I really would love to be educated on this [18:48] because I don't know that I have found maybe the correct information. Um but [18:54] whenever we have a board that is being created is typically created by the [18:58] council under an ordinance. Um I do not recall an ordinance being [19:05] presented or passed on a specific police collaboration review board. So I [19:13] I just would like some clarification if that has been done. I did I'm pretty [19:17] good at the research but I know that I am a little bit stressed right now. So I [19:20] have may have missed it. So I'd like to know how we created a board without that [19:25] being done. Um I also have some questions on that board. Um including [19:31] who is allowed to sit on the board? What parameters as far as their education [19:36] experience um need to be in place to be on the [19:40] board? how applications were submitted, how the selection process was submitted, [19:44] how the demographics have been chosen, um where those demographics are from. [19:50] Are all persons representative? Do we have veterans on that board? Do we have [19:54] women on that board? Do we have new Americans, African-Americans, um [19:59] different other um cultural groups on that board? Um, do we have persons who [20:05] are no longer law enforcement, who may be retired, who can speak freely about [20:10] things that they are concerned about or that they see without the ramifications [20:16] possibly of union or FOP or bargaining right um pressure. So I I also it is my [20:25] understanding that when we have a board that information is public [20:30] and we should know all of the afor mentioned we should know who, why, what, [20:36] where, when and we should know it before the meetings happen. Um, so I'm I'm very [20:43] confused as how we have such a a very important topic that we have been [20:48] pressing for over 10 years that has actually been mentioned in several [20:54] lawsuits settlements as part of this settlement should be that we have a [20:59] police review board. But we are not talking about any of those things [21:04] publicly. For me, it is a like the action should [21:08] correspond with the intent or the importance of the event. And I don't see [21:13] that happening. And that's concerning to me because that says to me that it's [21:17] actually not that important because we're not doing the due diligence to [21:21] explain. So, I have those questions. Um, I personally also feel that there should [21:28] be people outside of the city on that board. um whether they be subject matter [21:32] experts, nonprofits, um a consultant, if we have money to [21:37] bring in consultants for everything else, I feel like we should be able to [21:40] bring a consultant in maybe from cola or or uh Nicole on on how we are going to [21:46] do this board and what powers we have that there's plenty of organizations in [21:50] Pennsylvania that I know for a fact that would be willing to help. Um, so I'd [21:55] just like some clarification on that and and I really would like for that that [21:59] board to stop until the public is um given the information that they are [22:05] owed since we're the ones paying everybody and voting for everybody. Um [22:10] my second concern is um Mayor Daria if you don't mind when you had originally [22:17] talked about the policies of the police um I I know and we have met that it is [22:22] not it's certainly not anyone's intention to speak down to the public. [22:29] Um but I I wondered if you had considered using the verbiage that you [22:33] used may have been offensive. It was offensive to me and I'm high I I [22:37] consider myself pretty intelligent and educated. Um when you when we say to the [22:41] public, you know, even myself found these policies to be hard to [22:47] understand with the legal ease. So we want to, you know, basically dumb them [22:52] down for everybody. So my concern is that the population that is having the [22:57] most interaction with the police is the new American and African-American [23:00] communities. I don't know if it's the best approach to say, "Hey, you're I'm [23:06] smarter than you. You're not as smart as me, so let me dumb this down for you." [23:12] They that population and many others are being so over inundated, whether it be [23:20] because of high saturation or not. I think we need to get more information, [23:25] not less. like let's have a town hall and get more and let's stop treating [23:29] people like they don't know what they're doing. [23:32] » Thank you. >> Thank you. [23:36] » We can address um and answer these comments during our our liaison reports. [23:41] Um is there anyone else here to speak to or for public comment? Anyone else to [23:48] speak during public comment? Anyone else to speak during public comment? [23:53] Okay, we will go ahead and move Move on. [23:58] » Ordinances for final passage. [24:06] Council file number 16629, official ordinance 492026, [24:11] an ordinance appropriating the sum of $10,000 from unappropriated and [24:15] unanticipated revenue to be received from a community partnership grant [24:20] administered by the Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural [24:23] Resources, which is DCNR, and providing it for the expenditure thereof. [24:29] Sponsored by Council Member Shaw, seconded by Council Member Titus. that [24:32] council file ordinance bill number 16629 and now known as official file ordinance [24:37] 492026 be finally passed by city council [24:41] members Brzinski >> yes [24:42] » Flores >> yes [24:44] » yes >> Paul [24:45] » yes >> Shaw [24:46] » yes >> troop [24:47] » yes >> Titus [24:48] » yes >> city council read and adopt and pass [24:53] official file ordinance 49 2026 by yay 7 nay zero Council [25:05] file number 16630, official ordinance 50 20226, an ordinance appropriating the [25:10] sum $25,000 from unappropriated and unanticipated revenue for the [25:15] expenditure thereof. The contribution is from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania [25:18] acting through the Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission PHMC [25:22] and from the Keystone Historic Preservation Grant. Sponsored by Council [25:26] Member Shaw, seconded by Council Member Titus. That council file ordinance 16630 [25:31] and now known as official file ordinance 50 2026 be finally passed by city [25:36] council. Members Brzinski, >> yes. [25:38] » Lores, >> yes. [25:40] » Horton, >> yes. [25:41] » Paul, >> yes. [25:42] » Shaw, >> yes. [25:43] » Troop, >> yes. [25:44] » Titus, >> yes. [25:46] City Council pass official file ordinance 50 2026 finally by yay 7 nay [25:51] zero. [25:58] Council file number 16631 official ordinance 512026 [26:03] an ordinance appropriating the sum of $25,000 from unappropriated and [26:07] unanticipated revenue for the expenditure thereof. This contribution [26:11] is from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania acting through the Pennsylvania [26:14] Historical and Museum Commission, the PHMC from the FFY 2025 Certified Loan [26:20] Government Grant. Sponsored by Council Member Schoff, seconded by Council [26:23] Member Titus, that council file ordinance bill number 16631 [26:28] and now known as Official File Ordinance 51, 2022 be finally passed by city [26:33] council. Members Brzinski, >> yes. [26:35] » Flores, >> yes. [26:36] » Horton, >> yes. [26:37] » Pull, >> yes. [26:38] » Shaw, >> yes. Troop. [26:40] » Yes. >> Titus. [26:41] » Yes. >> City council pass official file [26:45] ordinance 512026 finally by yay 7 nay zero. [26:54] Ordinances for first reading or [27:00] council file number 16632 an ordinance appropriating the sum of $88,823 [27:07] from unappropriated and unanticipated revenue for the expenditure thereof for [27:11] an $88,000 $823 grant from the Department of Justice fiscal year 25 JAG [27:19] program local solicitation for police equipment sponsored by council Member [27:24] Horton, seconded by council member Shaw, that council file ordinance 16632 having [27:29] been read is hereby adopted on first reading by city council. Members [27:33] Brzinski, >> yes. [27:35] » Flores, >> yes. [27:36] » Horton, >> yes. [27:37] » Paul, >> yes. [27:38] » Shaw, >> oh, sorry. [27:40] » Yes. >> Droop, [27:41] » yes. >> Titus, [27:42] » yes. >> City council read and adopt council file [27:47] ordinance 16632 by Yay 7 N0 on first reading. [28:00] We don't have any old business. So, Council President, this takes us to new [28:05] business. >> At this point, I would ask for a motion [28:08] to move the balance of the agenda. >> Motion. [28:12] » Second. >> Any separations? [28:19] » Um, I'll separate one just so I can make a comment about it. Which one? [28:22] » The new business number one, the recreation, parks, and open space plan. [28:32] » Any other separations? [28:36] » That's it. Lori >> moving the balance of the agenda. [28:40] Members Brzinski, >> yes. [28:43] » Flores, >> yes. [28:44] » Horton, >> yes. [28:45] » Paul, >> yes. [28:47] » Shaw, >> yes. [28:48] » Troop, >> yes. [28:49] » Titus, >> yes. Resolution passes. Yay. 7 nay zero. [28:56] » Um I right right now I can make comment or we wait. [28:59] » We'll wait till she reads the actual plan. This is sponsored by council [29:03] member Titus, second by council member Shaw. That the proper city officials [29:07] hereby formally adopt Erie outside city of Erie comprehensive recreation parks [29:12] and open space plan as a shared vision and practical road map for maintaining [29:17] improving investing in Eerie's parks to better serve residents today while [29:21] preparing the future. Discussion >> um I just wanted to bring this uh to the [29:27] community's awareness. We have been working on this plan for the last three [29:31] or four years. I know when I first came on the council, I was um invited to the [29:36] community centers and asked to come and look at playgrounds and just see the [29:39] conditions in which our young people have to play in. And it really justarted [29:45] me. It made me sad to see that even our playgrounds were run down and our kids [29:49] really don't have much to look forward to. So, I really pushed to make sure [29:54] that we're making our community spaces more representative of what we want to [30:00] see Erie as. So, I'm happy to see that the community participated in surveys, [30:04] were able to formally adopt this plan, and then go to the state and get grant [30:08] funding to help increase our remodels of all of our parks over time. So, it's [30:14] just a great plan that I think the community is really going to be able to [30:17] enjoy during our spring, summers, and falls. Thank you. Council, [30:22] » any other discussion? >> Thank you, Dr. Titus. Um, yes, I am [30:27] looking forward to this. Um, was very um interested in the outside park plan and [30:36] love that um they are being used. I went to uh [30:42] the Land Lighthouse Park um with Miss Pole last week and very nice uh [30:51] playground opportunities there for the children as well as a beautiful view. [30:58] Yesterday, um the daycare facility on State Street [31:04] had the children playing a ball type of game out in front of uh in on Perry [31:13] Square and looks like they were having a great time. But um I like how they also [31:21] broke down the median age of you know people who use parks and uh how they're [31:31] foreseeing um seniors um in their senior years using parks as as [31:40] well because um that's so important on the quality of life. Um, I actually have [31:48] a friend um moving out of Mil Creek um down south because um she's in her [31:56] senior years and um she has found a place near her family, but um they focus [32:05] on uh senior community and senior well-being. [32:11] And this out eerie outside park plan really has done a great job of [32:18] recognizing all the people using the parks. And I also liked how they put the [32:26] history of it. Andrew Elott was one of the first surveyors in 1795 [32:34] um who did Perry Square, Gridley Park, and Wayne Park. um because at that time [32:41] too they were looking for um civicminded open spaces. So um they built upon the [32:49] history of our past and now going forward to the future and that the last [32:56] uh park plan hadn't been since 1993 which as we well know was more than 30 [33:03] years ago. So, um, thank you for everyone who, um, put their, um, stamp [33:09] on it, effort into it, and did the research. Thank you. [33:14] » Any other counselors? >> Yes, Dr. Titus. Thank you. [33:18] [clears throat] And thank you, uh, colleagues Sha and Flores for your [33:24] comments. Um, wow. I've been here all my life. I [33:30] didn't know the city had 32 parks. And that was the first thing that blew me [33:34] away. Uh, and some I've never been to. I'm soon to be a little older. [33:43] [laughter] Um, but one thing that I do want to say [33:47] about the plans from Eerie outside and that their plans for the future, [33:54] but when I look at park number five, which is Perry Square East and West, [34:02] My colleague to my left can appreciate it. There are some right now things we [34:07] need to take care of about our park. We have It's embarrassing to have a park [34:14] caddy corner from city hall with no restrooms, no public restrooms. [34:20] And I I walk through there at least once or twice a week. Uh there's that wall [34:25] that runs diagonal along there. I I call that Matthew's porch cuz I see some of [34:31] everything in the net up in there. It's a lot of good, a lot of good people, a [34:37] lot of brokenness over there. But surely uh in the center of our town square, we [34:44] have statues uh of our fallen officers and statues of [34:51] our heroes of years gone by. We can't have a public restroom [34:58] or a point of decency. Uh you got to know where you're at. You [35:05] got six high-rise buildings down here in the 16501. They don't deserve basic [35:12] decency. And we're spending money on a lot of [35:16] things. Uh, and we do have a budget coming [35:23] and that's one thing that should be non-negotiable [35:27] is our our public works. Uh, we have children, people bringing their kids to [35:33] play in the fountain as I did as a kid when they used to have bathrooms. [35:39] Imagine that. Uh, so I'm really disappointed. And [35:43] that's one of the first things we have the festivals. They bring the [35:47] portaotties. They got some pretty good ones now uh that you can put up with [35:52] wash stations. You can lock them at night and clean them or whatever at a [35:56] certain hour, but surely we're a better city than this. [36:01] Thank you. >> Thank you. Any other comments from any [36:05] other counselor? >> Dr. guys. Um, I was just curious, this [36:08] might sound like a silly question, but with the research that the I don't know [36:14] the companies are doing with the parks, um, [36:18] do they have, um, information on like how parks can be used like in the winter [36:23] time? I mean, I don't know. You know what I mean? That's like time that [36:28] they're unused. So, do cities have ways of using [36:35] the parks in the wintertime? Are there things that can be done like [36:40] events or I I'm not sure if other cities do that, but that's just a curiosity. [36:45] » I do recall um just I guess jump and answer that that was actually put in [36:50] quite a bit of quite a bit of thought and and process with the the new updates [36:53] that we got especially during our study session was how to activate during [36:56] during the winter. um because I we're not getting any cooler summers and we're [37:00] certainly not getting any right >> warmer winters. So I know that that was [37:04] part of the the plan as well. But point well made. [37:09] » If if council is is okay then I will go ahead and call for the vote on this [37:14] » members. Brazinski >> yes. [37:16] » Flores >> yes. [37:17] » Horton >> yes. [37:18] » Paul >> yes. [37:19] » Shaw >> yes. [37:20] » Troop >> yes. [37:21] » Titus >> yes. [37:23] » Resolution passes. Yay seven nay zero. I believe this takes us to committee [37:28] reports. >> All right, we will go ahead and start [37:31] with uh councelor pull. >> I just have a short report this morning. [37:39] um past couple weeks uh the OE and fire [37:44] pension uh both had their monthly meetings that I attended through Zoom [37:51] and they're doing well and ongoing except for a few passings [37:57] um of retirees. It's always a sad sad thing to say goodbye to that um when [38:05] they're taken off the the pension roles. Um, [38:12] » apologize. >> It's all right. [38:17] » I attended um on the 21st of August. Um, it's a couple Fridays ago, Ainsworth [38:24] Field. Um, they had like a fundraiser uh because they want to update it, redo [38:31] it because it's it's in horrible shape. um [38:38] since they knocked down the school in front of it. They used to have all kinds [38:42] of activities there um through the years and um growing up not too far from [38:48] there. I used to spend a lot of time around there at the tennis courts, [38:53] things like that. Um, and it's good to see them trying to revive it and [38:58] hopefully not only the school district because it is owned by the school [39:01] district um that the city can partner with them a little bit and um not [39:06] monetarily but um you know put get together and um bring [39:13] that back to life and have activities there again and even you know maybe [39:18] little league or you know anything that'll bring that back to life a little [39:22] bit and bring the history back to that area. Um, [39:29] and I do I think about the military often because it's in the news daily. [39:33] Um, [39:37] I have a um, you know, me many relatives that served in the in the service. [39:43] Um, and one recently after 9/11. um and you worry and you pray and I continue to [39:50] pray for for all the military no matter where they're stationed but mainly where [39:55] the um where everything's going on right now. [39:59] Um that's it. Thank you. >> Thank you. Uh councelor Ch. [40:04] » Thank you uh Dr. Titus. Um I'll just keep it brief today. Um, I just want to [40:09] um really want to thank Area Events for um coordinating [40:14] um gym city soul night last night for the city. Um it was um relatively short [40:22] notice that it was put together and and um it was really well attended. [40:27] Um everybody had a great time together. Um [40:32] before in one of these meetings I I talked about um the city having wins and [40:38] I think that the city walked away last night feeling like they had a win [40:42] together. You know what I mean? Um a very diverse crowd and it felt like [40:46] people felt like it was it was a victory. So um thank Eerie Events and [40:51] the bands that participated, the sound crew and all the community and and [40:56] vendors and things that came together rather quickly to make that happen. [40:59] That's all I have. Thank you. >> Thank you, Councelor Flores. [41:02] » Um I'll I'll have a brief um report. I just wanted to acknowledge that, you [41:06] know, with us having our students back in in school for us to be mindful of [41:11] them on their journey to school and on their path um home. I also wanted to um [41:17] make sure that people are aware that the city did announce the next couple of [41:21] heritage festivals we will be having through the month of September. But [41:26] also, there are a few more um heritage festivals that are going to be winding [41:30] down the season for us. So, these are a great way for us to build community with [41:34] one another. We all come from different places. Unless you're Native American, [41:38] you migrated here from somewhere. And for us to respect one another's views [41:43] and our heritage and our culture is a beautiful thing. That's what makes [41:46] America a melting pot. So, we just have to be mindful on how we're interacting [41:51] with one another. A lot of us are carrying heavy weights, especially with [41:55] some of the negativity that is on social media. Um, we have a lot of toxic views [42:01] on social media that people feel really brazen to say to people behind a [42:06] keyboard, but yet when they see you in person, they really just look at you and [42:09] give you a dirty look and that's about it. So, I just want people to be aware [42:13] that unless we're Native American, we did migrate from somewhere. [42:17] We're all forced here on slave ships and bondage. So just acknowledge the true [42:23] American history and maybe we can move forward because right now things are at [42:27] tense times and when we are at war with other countries and we have a lot of [42:32] things going on at home, we need to acknowledge that our community is what [42:35] makes us beautiful and Erie has always been welcoming and acknowledging [42:39] everyone's heritage. So please make sure you make it to any of these festivals [42:43] that are going to be winding down our summer season because it is a beautiful [42:47] experience to see everybody enjoying their culture. Thank you. [42:51] » Thank you, Council Brzinski. >> Thank you. Uh start off by saying Zawa [42:58] was a once again a fantastic weekend. Uh Yogi Bear used to say nobody goes there [43:07] anymore because it's too busy. Uh lines stretched over a block to get some [43:15] goumpkies or pyogis or potato pancakes. Uh everybody was happy, everybody was [43:20] having a good time and uh it does bring the community together which is a [43:24] beautiful thing. Uh with that uh let's be reminded that the German fest [43:31] uh on old French road is this weekend I believe and uh the great Irish St. [43:36] Patrick's one is uh some place around the 20th of September I believe. keep it [43:43] in mind and if you get a chance, go there because you're going to see [43:46] smiling faces wherever you turn. Thank you. [43:50] » Thank you, Councelor Horton. >> Uh thank you, Dr. Titus. Um [43:57] all the meetings are starting to run together for me. I don't know whether [44:01] it's a redevelopment or zoning. I certainly did not attend the blighted [44:05] property review board uh but or the land bank um meeting. I can't believe I've [44:11] watched online. Uh the big takeaway is that they want to do a housing [44:16] development on 22nd Street, which is why I was asking the gentleman, we're at u [44:22] uh the redevelopment. Mr. Snipper and his staff have uh uh done a great job. [44:28] Um uh Jake and the building inspectors have did all the necessary paperwork. [44:34] I'm continuing to learn about the processes of acquiring and blighting and [44:40] uh selling properties and place them on repository. So, it's been quite a [44:45] learning experience. But again, the big takeaway is they want to build uh they [44:49] have had like 40 something lots uh up there. It sounded like 20 something, but [44:55] they're going to take six or seven of those lots and and turn it into [45:01] housing supposed to be quality affordable housing. And I won't get into [45:04] the numbers of it cuz it's still uh mind-boggling to me. Uh but that that's [45:10] what's on the uh horizon. Uh anyway, um uh I think that I would like to really [45:18] just take the opportunity to just thank uh some people. Um really I want to [45:23] start with thanking my colleagues. I know it's been a difficult year uh and [45:28] we've taken uh in quite a bit uh from the residents, but we've really turned [45:33] out some really good product too with the help of the uh executive branch and [45:38] and Mayor Develin uh and our solicitor uh and a lot of the questions that come [45:44] to us from that podium um uh are not questions that I care to even try to [45:50] take an answer and I would I would think that you all would not either. But we [45:54] have a very capable solicitor. Uh those type questions should be directed to [45:59] him. Uh and they're all valid questions. Uh u you know, but uh I am glad that uh [46:06] the mayor has initiated a process uh to at least address some of the things that [46:12] the community is asking for. And one thing that I know to be wrong is to [46:18] stand by and do nothing. And so, Mayor Develin, I want to thank you and your [46:22] staff and Lori, I I hate to stop naming people because you have so many very [46:27] capable people who are all contributing. None of the work gets turned around by [46:32] one or two or even a few people, but it's a team approach. Um, and finally, [46:37] I'll I'll add that it was a great night uh last night. Kudos to Mr. Troop and [46:44] kudos to Mr. Pine and the Eerie events uh for holding such a a great event. It [46:50] was a wonderful night. I believe last night we probably had uh we in Erie, [46:54] Pennsylvania probably had some of the best weather anywhere in the world. Uh [46:58] with the nice lake breeze blowing up off of it and soft tones of music which [47:03] always seemed to bring people together. Uh and I I counted a win and this city [47:08] always needs wins. Uh so thank you again and that concludes my report. Thank you, [47:14] Council Shaw. >> Thank you, Dr. Titus. Um, I've been in [47:18] uh Conversation with Nick Paladus, who currently has 2,000 signatures [47:25] um to open up the Southeast Erie Post Office. We met with um Senator Kelly and [47:34] or Congressman Kelly and hopefully um there will be some action [47:40] on that and he encourages everyone to write to the postmaster general because [47:48] uh this um in his research um has been going on [47:54] not just in Erie but um throughout Pennsylvania. Um there have been some [48:01] post office closures and um if you are concerned about um your service [48:10] definitely um contact as many people as you can because the [48:17] squeaky wheel gets the grease. Um Odessa's place thanks to Carol Troop and [48:26] her team gave out many back to school supplies and was very helpful to the [48:35] people who came to her the doors of Adessa's place ready to go back to [48:41] school as well as the Blue Coats and Daryl Craig with their uh back to school [48:48] bash at Perry square and they had an excellent giveaway too and Angela McNair [48:57] um did one on Sunday as well and there were even other places so anyone who [49:04] contributed and volunteered and donated in any way thank you very much for what [49:11] you've done um the Ainsworth field I did attend that I hope the Erie school [49:17] district um does a great job um with their renovations that they want to do [49:27] because again the Ainsworth field has so much history behind it and um it would [49:34] be wonderful to see that place restored. Um, thank you to Matthew Falconee who [49:40] checked out some trees. Um, in South or North Erie. Um, David French [49:51] today had mentioned ebikes and my friend Pete Griswinsky, who I met in 2018 in [49:59] Perry Square, um, died over the weekend. And um I just can't imagine um the [50:09] family and the driver's family affected by that. That's one of my greatest [50:15] nightmares. Um especially in the evening while um driving because like David [50:24] French mentioned um there are accidents waiting to happen. um they [50:32] can come up behind you and you think like you're going to get run over at [50:38] times and um I hope that everyone starts um [50:46] following the rules as far as their own safety and the safety of others. [50:53] um Friday night. Um for those people looking for things to do, um Frontier [50:59] Park continues to have a music series there and um it's quite enjoyable. Um [51:07] it's near the Leaf building, so it's not like on the Blues and Jazz Fest side [51:16] where they have the Frontier Park. It's it's closer to the slides and the and [51:21] the hill and um it's quite enjoyable. I attended the Eerie Water Authority [51:28] meeting and the Erie sewer um meeting as well. And um Miss Flores had mentioned [51:37] earlier about um the pediatricians and [51:43] the increase of accidents and I watched the same thing and it's actually 671% [51:52] increase um from Yes. Um it it's quite um alarming. Um [52:00] there was a father who gave his ch 12-year-old child one and ended up [52:07] [snorts] with a horrific injury that took a long process of surgical healings [52:15] and um there was an expose on that. Um thank you. Have a great day. Thank you. [52:25] Um so I will start in really quickly with the two uh authorities that I [52:30] attended on August 26th. I was at the Erie airport authority meeting. Um [52:35] wanted to announce that they had two executive sessions, one on August 5th, [52:38] one on August 26th to discuss um personnel and real estate matters. Um [52:44] and also complete their evaluation of their their uh executive director. Um at [52:49] this past meeting their executive director did get a salary increase. So [52:53] that was approved [snorts] unanimously and voted on by the authority. Um also [52:58] they have negotiated through two different union contracts and so they [53:02] are solidifying those. Uh they've reached agreements on both of those [53:05] which I it's it's great for for everybody involved when we're able to go [53:10] ahead and wrap up those those union negotiations. Um they also appointed um [53:16] the the board member that we had seated who will be joining and sitted on the se [53:20] officially seated on the board at their next meeting. Uh you can learn more [53:23] about just the time and the location of the airport authority meetings on their [53:26] website. I was at the Erie events authority meeting on the 27th um just to [53:32] notify that there is uh has been some changes in the times but the next two [53:38] meetings there will also be change in location due to events that are [53:41] happening at the convention center. So to just please check out their website. [53:44] The public is permitted to attend authority meetings. So just to note to [53:48] go on to their website so you know where those are happening overall that they [53:52] there's been some changes in the tax revenue around um uh hotel taxes and so [53:58] they are seeing some revenue increase. Uh some of the discussion that I want to [54:02] make sure I I brought up here continues to be around the zoo and how they are [54:07] structuring it. They are currently seeking out consultants on developing a [54:10] master plan. Uh and that will lay out the whole entirety of the property. Um [54:15] and the public will will ask be asked for input. So I'm asking again for the [54:18] public to make sure that we're paying attention to that. So when we are [54:21] developing this master plan that the whole community gets to have their voice [54:25] heard. They're looking uh at the vet center. um they need to have the vet [54:31] center up and have movement on that for the accreditation process but also the [54:35] CRIS authority is looking to support that which um I'll come back to in a [54:40] second here on that but overall they are moving the the eerie events always has a [54:45] million things going on um but they're really starting to to move in in how are [54:50] we going to lay out the zoo and how is that property going to be um developed [54:54] and so I think it's important for all of us to to pay attention to that and have [54:57] our participation in that um I also wrote a note in here uh that I would [55:02] like to bring to council for us to discuss but I would like to invent [55:06] invite the cruise authority I know we've talked about this with the mayor but [55:09] there are so many projects that are moving very quickly um and I want to [55:13] make sure that we fully understand the process of how these properties and [55:17] these project are selected uh when we have a like eerie events being selected [55:23] um and they're already a taxexempt authority want to making [snorts] sure [55:25] that we fully understand how the money's coming in how the money is going out as [55:29] a as a council um because these projects impact us, they impact the community. [55:33] And so I know we're heading into uh budget season, but for us to be also [55:38] having that on our radar as well, so we can start to plan um to to extend that [55:43] invite and maybe plan out when we could get them here. There is the date change [55:46] for the housing town hall that we'll be hosting with the the city. Uh it's moved [55:51] now to the 22nd. It's going to be at East Middle School. it the the event [55:55] itself the town hall goes from 6:00 to 8 but the doors will open at 5:30m for a [56:00] resource fair and so that residents are able to come in there'll be two [56:04] different kind of tracks will be actually three things that are happening [56:07] the the county is going to be collecting some of their data around their housing [56:11] assessment and their project so for community input there we'll be talking [56:15] to homeowners and some of the resources available to them but then also uh [56:18] tenants and renters uh so that they can know their rights and and resources [56:23] available to them as well So 922 East Middle School. And then to also address [56:28] the ebikes comment that we heard, um there is an enormous safety concern. [56:33] We've seen even in New York City where they actually sued some of the people [56:37] who were selling the ebikes. Um, I would caution all of us as we approach these [56:41] to make sure that we're doing it through a lens of equity as oftentimes ebikes [56:45] are the only means of transportation due to the economy and various things and [56:49] that any any rules or ordinances we create will inadvertently impact certain [56:54] groups of our community more than others. Not saying that we shouldn't, [56:58] but just saying as we do this that we be mindful. Um, and then I will [57:03] challenge all of us on council to pay attention to what's happening with flock [57:06] cameras. there's national discussion happening, but now there is a very loud [57:10] state discussion that is happening. And this has bipartisan support at this [57:14] point to move in the direction of blocking or limiting um as the software [57:18] is incredibly dangerous. Um and so I'm working with some other local advocates [57:23] to get uh legislation that we could we could review, but also to that might be [57:28] a mute point if it comes in front of our our authorities. Uh and with that, I [57:33] will mic pass because we got the timers going for us. Thank you Lori for doing [57:36] that. Um to ask the solicitor to address the comments made around uh boards and [57:42] authorities noting that we do not have one um that has been codified around the [57:46] police and safety. [57:51] » U obviously there's the boards that everyone knows about that are enacted [57:55] through diff the different ordinances and you can find those on uh those are [57:59] the easy ones like the planning commission and zoning hearing board. [58:01] However, the mayor through her executive power is allowed to form or unform [58:06] advisory councils and those advisory councils would then be at the discretion [58:10] of the mayor for certain topics. For instance, so the the one that's being [58:14] referenced is an advisory council through the executive arm. And so that [58:19] is her prerogative to get experts or [58:23] opinions through that that manner. So that's what's going on right now. Now [58:27] obviously there has been a a lot of discussion of doing like a citizens [58:32] review board or a police review board type of um commissioner board that would [58:37] be enacted by ordinance that if that was to be created that would be at the same [58:43] the same rules as say the planning commission or the zoning hearing board [58:46] um bylaws will be enacted and that sort of thing. So the mayor and and it's not [58:52] just Mayor Develin doing this. Mayor Shamber also had advisory boards that [58:55] were in place. And so sometimes those boards, you know, uh go away or they [59:00] continue uh when a new mayor comes on. [59:06] » Thank you. [59:11] » Good. Sorry. Um passing notes up here to make sure that I go over everything that [59:16] I was supposed to go over. Uh, controller, if you want to go ahead and [59:20] share your report out. [59:25] » Hi. Um, we are always working hard in the controllers's office. Um, so I just [59:29] want to give you an update on the things that are going on. Uh, we just attended [59:33] a very valuable workshop and team building exercise last Friday for all of [59:37] our third floor staff. Uh, I want to commend Lori, the mayor's chief of [59:40] staff, on a wellthoughtout, wellorganized, and extremely productive [59:44] session. I know good things will come out of this workshop for us. I am also [59:48] working on several projects right now. Um I have formed a committee to [59:52] streamline policies and procedures related to our bills paying process. Uh [59:56] so our first meeting on that is next week. We're going to draft a mission [1:00:00] statement and kind of outlay the process and see if we can make it easier and [1:00:04] better. And I'll give updates as they're appropriate on that. And I want to [1:00:09] remind everyone uh this wasn't mentioned here today. Um, and I apologize if it's [1:00:13] outside my boundaries, but I want to remind everyone of the Labor Day parade [1:00:16] on Monday the 7th at 10:00 a.m. I will be marching with the Teamsters. Uh, and [1:00:21] it's a great day, beautiful parade, and it celebrates labor as we should on that [1:00:26] day. And as always, I want to give a thank you to my staff for their [1:00:30] continued hard work and commitment to excellence in our office. Kate, Kelly, [1:00:34] and Meg. You all do a wonderful job. Thank you so much for everything you do. [1:00:38] And that's it. >> Thank you, Mayor. [1:00:44] Thank you, Dr. Titus. Uh, I want to start out this morning by thanking the [1:00:49] planning department who maybe has stepped out, but um, Jackie Spry and her [1:00:54] team um, for the incredible work on the parks plan that has been noted today. It [1:00:58] was a long road and they just did an incredible job. So, I want to thank them [1:01:01] for that. Um, just want to note a couple of other things. We did hold a Celebrate [1:01:05] Yuri debrief internally last week to talk about what worked and didn't work [1:01:09] for Celebrate Yuri so that we can begin planning for next year. And on that [1:01:13] note, it's not too early to start to start planning for next year. This [1:01:17] morning actually, I'll be holding a summer debrief meeting with all the [1:01:20] partners that we funded for summer programming. So that's through our CDBG [1:01:24] dollars and also our parks dollars to have a conversation about how the summer [1:01:28] went, what obstacles they found, how the literacy initiative that we started this [1:01:32] year worked so that we can really begin immediately starting to plan for next [1:01:37] summer. Um because I think we have a lot of areas that we can improve there. Um [1:01:42] just a couple of notes on on scheduling. So we did announce welcoming week. We [1:01:46] held a press conference the other day. I want to thank um Marta Alsad at Almadina [1:01:51] Supermarket who help uh hosted us on Parade Street for our announcement of [1:01:55] welcoming week that is coming September 10th through the 19th. And a couple of [1:02:00] there's a huge um amount of activities going on that week. There's educational [1:02:05] activities, festivals, and things. You can find all of that on our website. But [1:02:08] a few things to note there. Of course, Fiesta in the Square will happen on [1:02:13] September 12th. Um, and that is something that we do in coordination [1:02:16] with our uh, Latino community. And then also the new American Jamberee on [1:02:21] September 18th. That will be the first time that that event will be held in [1:02:25] Perry Square. And so those are two events that really are marking uh, [1:02:29] welcoming week as we celebrate that here in the city of Erie. Um, I do want to [1:02:33] address the ebike education, the comments today. We have actually done [1:02:38] some social media education on this topic but hearing the comments today and [1:02:43] your comments council I think we need to do more there. So heard and noted and I [1:02:47] I will take that back to the to the um Mocha team and see what they can do [1:02:52] there. Also just talking about um a couple of other dates certainly Patriot [1:02:57] Day 911 is coming. Um I was in uh conversation with the county executive [1:03:02] yesterday. There is a county um ceremony planned on the morning of September [1:03:06] 11th. I think it begins at 8:30 um down in front of the the memorial there. So, [1:03:12] I I'm sure more information will be coming, but I just want you to all be [1:03:15] aware um that that hopefully is on your calendars. Um also today, the Sons of [1:03:20] Lake Erie, of course, are having their event. We're very grateful to the Suns [1:03:23] for all the work they do around conservation. We all know Mr. Kle is a [1:03:27] passionate advocate and we appreciate all the work that all of them do. So, I [1:03:31] hope I'll see some of you there for their annual fish fry this afternoon. [1:03:36] And then lastly, uh just want to put a few more uh words around the solicitor's [1:03:40] comments regarding the mayor's council on community safety and trust. Um this [1:03:45] is in line with the other councils. For example, the mayor's council on on [1:03:49] disabilities, the mayor's council on new American Affairs. There has been a [1:03:52] long-standing tradition for mayors to have these advisory councils. However, I [1:03:56] do want to remind the public as we've discussed I think a few times that the [1:04:00] work we are doing is to codify something that can be passed by ordinance by [1:04:05] council so that the work long outlives this administration and all of you. So [1:04:11] as we have said I think a few times the the council the group that has been [1:04:15] brought together is advisory in nature. they are helping us to first have really [1:04:20] really difficult conversations um to build some trust and then to work [1:04:25] together on the codification of something that will be long lasting. Um [1:04:29] we have been very clear that the group that's together now might not be the [1:04:33] group that's together after codification but it is a start to your point [1:04:36] councelor Horton. It's some action that we felt needed to be taken to begin this [1:04:40] work. So I am happy to have conversations at any time um about that [1:04:45] council, about its priorities, about how people were picked. So very happy to do [1:04:49] that um and and would welcome those questions at any time. Um and with that, [1:04:55] I think I will uh close my comments. Thank you. [1:04:59] » Thank you. So just again to remind the public, we have a study session next [1:05:03] Thursday. Uh we have the housing town hall. We have a another study session at [1:05:09] the end of the month that will happen between this study session and then our [1:05:13] city council evening meeting. Um and so we are ramping into that budget process. [1:05:18] And this is really we want the public always paying attention. But this is [1:05:23] where you're going to start to see rubber kind of hit the road um and some [1:05:26] big changes that we that we can start to do um to write some ships in in the [1:05:30] city. And with that we will go ahead and call Oh, no. Sorry. Go ahead. [1:05:33] » Before we adjourn >> Yes. to the study sessions. [1:05:36] » Yes, >> study sessions. Um, I'd like to uh [1:05:42] interest you and our colleagues in the mayor's office and uh putting together a [1:05:46] study session on community benefit agreements since you mentioned the Chris [1:05:51] and everybody's going to try to come through here and push those projects. [1:05:55] Everything's going to be priority. And I kind of look at it like we look at it in [1:06:00] terms of internet safety. when they say hurry up quick and do something, it [1:06:04] makes me pause. Uh, and there's and uh we should demand more of a return on [1:06:10] investment for the things that we're putting on the taxpayer. Uh, and so I'd [1:06:16] like to convene or work with you in administration in convening a community [1:06:20] benefit agreement thing. I think the time is now. [1:06:24] » Agree. And we should be able to codify uh some of that uh even within our [1:06:30] zoning structure. So yeah. So thank you. >> Thank you. All right. With that we will [1:06:36] go ahead and adjourn today's meeting.