1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,750 It's recording. 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,240 » We're back on camera. Did we turn our 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,000 recorder back on? 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:10,800 >> Yes. Yes. Yes. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,670 >> Great. 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,240 Okay. So, Don, we had a couple 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,640 questions. 8 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:17,760 Um 9 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,040 we have a house that we have 10 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,560 been through the process on I think it's 11 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,480 always Yeah. Um 12 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,600 all the way to the point of eviction, 13 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,120 but then we've gotten confused about 14 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,520 how we how come we couldn't evict them 15 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,120 or is there no way to like forcibly 16 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,200 evict them? 17 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,040 But 18 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,520 >> Well, that's what I remember is the 19 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,520 exact same 20 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,120 >> Okay, go on. Maybe I'm off. 21 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,520 >> Okay. Well, yeah, as I recall what we 22 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,200 did was we we uh placarded the house 23 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,960 because it was uninhabitable. 24 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,080 >> Mhm. Yeah. 25 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,160 >> It's just it's kind of an eviction, but 26 00:00:53,160 --> 00:00:54,560 not really evictions either. 27 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:55,520 >> I see. 28 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,160 >> Landlord in it. What we said is is that 29 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,440 your house doesn't have uh 30 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,720 the proper utilities, so it can't be, 31 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:03,535 you know, 32 00:01:03,535 --> 00:01:04,239 >> [snorts] 33 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:06,200 >> nobody can reside there because it's 34 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,640 unsanitary. You know, 35 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,240 roof's caving in or something like that 36 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,040 is one way, but if you just don't have 37 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,880 any utilities, you don't have bathroom 38 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,480 facilities, but under the city code 39 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,760 you're in violation and you got to leave 40 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,880 the premises, so 41 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:19,480 >> Correct. That's it. 42 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:20,480 >> I can't recall 43 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,440 >> Yeah, we have both issues on this one. 44 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,440 >> Yeah, and I think that if if what I 45 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,400 recall hearing was 2 years ago that this 46 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,320 was all done. 47 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:29,320 >> I think so, yeah. 48 00:01:29,320 --> 00:01:30,080 >> How long? 49 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:30,880 >> 24 50 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,120 >> Yeah. 51 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,160 >> So, like 4 52 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,800 >> 24 53 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,800 >> Okay, yeah. I think there was probably 54 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,040 just a time frame here. You you can't If 55 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,360 it was 3 months, maybe, but 2 years, you 56 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:46,960 probably need to you need to initiate 57 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:49,160 the process again. If somebody's living 58 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,240 at a at a location [clears throat] 59 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,000 without the sanitary facilities, then 60 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,880 the code has the same It's got kind of a 61 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,120 notice provision, and then you placard 62 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,240 the house and they're supposed to leave. 63 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,160 And the the issue becomes whether or not 64 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,360 the county will assist you in removing 65 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,120 people who have refused to be removed. 66 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,320 >> Okay, that's that's what I remember. 67 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:10,560 Uh it sounds like then it wouldn't 68 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,240 matter if we did a payment plan with 69 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,000 them cuz it's not going to affect any 70 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,240 kind of placarding cuz it's we'd have to 71 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,040 do it again anyway from the sound of it. 72 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:19,480 Yeah. 73 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:19,800 >> Okay. 74 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,240 >> Yeah, and I don't understand the 75 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,240 if you turn back on their utilities, 76 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,760 obviously you couldn't 77 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,120 placard them for that reason. 78 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:27,920 >> No. 79 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:29,560 >> because they have water at that point 80 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:30,680 and they're 81 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,000 uh in compliance, so. 82 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:33,271 Um 83 00:02:33,271 --> 00:02:33,840 >> [clears throat] 84 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,160 >> So the question goes down to whether you 85 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,880 want to make them pay the entire balance 86 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,680 before we turn it back on or you guys 87 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:41,880 are willing to do a payment plan for 88 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,160 them cuz that's what they're requesting 89 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,200 at this point. 90 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:44,640 Or 91 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:46,520 >> Yeah, well I think that it's well I 92 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,240 think that it is probably not in good 93 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,400 faith 94 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,280 to um you know, make a deal with them 95 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,840 and placard them because they have 96 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,560 taking advantage of that. 97 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,840 >> No, and that's that's not what I'm 98 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,120 saying to do. I'm I'm saying those I'm 99 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,040 trying to have us pick a lane I guess is 100 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:05,760 what I'm saying. 101 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,600 >> Yeah, and I I think it's perfectly fair 102 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,600 to say until you pay, you know, whatever 103 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,480 that you can't reside there and once you 104 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:13,227 pay up, 105 00:03:13,227 --> 00:03:13,519 >> [clears throat] 106 00:03:13,519 --> 00:03:14,880 >> uh you know, you can ask then it will 107 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,920 take a couple months 108 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:18,560 and you can live there 109 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,200 with water. 110 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,040 But 111 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,280 you got to do some good will first. I 112 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,350 don't know. Does that do you guys? 113 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,560 » Well, 114 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,920 I was looking at that right 115 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:32,440 >> Yeah. 116 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,920 >> If I was looking at that right, that so 117 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:38,200 they paid the $1,200 in November. 118 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,360 Correct? 119 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,400 Uh 120 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,320 in October. For October? 121 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,760 Then they have not made any payment 122 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,600 since then? 123 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,280 >> No. 124 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,680 And they've been living there after they 125 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:51,519 were told that they 126 00:03:51,519 --> 00:03:52,640 >> All right, I'm going to find would have 127 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:53,960 when they 128 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,760 if they would continue to pay at least 129 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:56,560 20 bucks. 130 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,840 >> 20 bucks. 131 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,040 >> That's the thing is is at this point I'm 132 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,320 just blacklisting them again 133 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,200 until they get it paid. 134 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,600 I I just don't trust that they're going 135 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,920 to 136 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,240 not break an agreement that they've 137 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,360 already broken multiple times. 138 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:14,920 >> So, we remember the clause was in there. 139 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,880 >> Even if they came in with 10 bucks, this 140 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:17,720 is what I have this month. 141 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,040 >> Make yeah, make payment. 142 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,400 >> But there's been no 143 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:21,959 nothing. 144 00:04:21,959 --> 00:04:30,470 >> It's been over 6 months since Oh, seven or eight months. 145 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,040 » So, you guys are wanting to 146 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,880 You're saying a rate 147 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,000 to evict them again. Well, 148 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,640 >> Okay. 149 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,960 >> This is what happened the last time I 150 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,040 did that. 151 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,840 The sheriff came in and said 152 00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:51,080 some rule under the Kansas law he cannot 153 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,230 force them to leave. 154 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:55,800 So, 155 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:56,520 >> Yeah, 156 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,680 well, I think he 157 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,919 Yeah, well, we have a different opinion. 158 00:05:01,919 --> 00:05:02,720 I understand. 159 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,040 >> Uh yes, that's where I'm confused about. 160 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,320 >> Well, we're going to get a warrant from 161 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,200 the court to have them removed. 162 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:09,880 >> Exactly. 163 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,000 >> And then he's just it's just going to be 164 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,560 that you know, it's going to be one time 165 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,000 he's probably going there and take them 166 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,280 out, but 167 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:18,160 they can get right back in. 168 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,240 But if they're letting that, then you 169 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,160 know, 170 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,640 they're they're burning their chance 171 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,960 with you guys, so 172 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,840 I guess if they want to live there ever again, 173 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:32,400 they'll pay, but I don't know. I I don't 174 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,440 have a very good answer if they're just 175 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,840 going to frankly completely violate it 176 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:38,400 and we don't have police officers who 177 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:39,400 will 178 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,240 remove them. 179 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,600 >> I think call the sheriff again and ask 180 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:43,560 him 181 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,680 and have it be on record if he doesn't 182 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,480 want to help us evict somebody from 183 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:48,640 living 184 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,800 in a house that doesn't have utilities 185 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,040 in the county that he's over. 186 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,200 >> Well, if you go to the county and get 187 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,640 the judge to issue a warrant, then he 188 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:58,400 has to 189 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,200 >> Don Don Rush, I have a question. 190 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,920 Uh it's been brought to our attention 191 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,240 that the utilities are in 192 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,920 uh 193 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:08,320 >> her 194 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,000 >> Sandy's name and the property now is in 195 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,400 uh his name, whatever his name is. 196 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,600 And 197 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:16,560 uh they want [clears throat] to switch 198 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,600 it over to his name. 199 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,080 Uh if we do that, does that release her 200 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,200 of the liability of that or where where does that 201 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:24,680 >> No. 202 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,400 >> that work? 203 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,600 >> Not that I not that I know of, no. 204 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,480 Uh unless you say that it's released, so 205 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,240 no. 206 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,880 >> So, if we did switch it to his 207 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:38,040 >> thing to understand, but if yeah, if you switch it to his name and you 208 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,600 turn it on and you let him go, you can't 209 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,080 bring up her 210 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,400 you know, past breach on that to shut 211 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,480 him off for to do anything. 212 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,280 >> Right. Right. We just start all over 213 00:06:48,280 --> 00:06:48,720 like 214 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,689 >> you obligate yourself to money. Yeah. 215 00:06:50,689 --> 00:06:51,000 [clears throat] 216 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,080 >> We start all over like a new service at 217 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,040 that point. We're binding us ourselves. 218 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,520 >> Yeah. 219 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,200 >> Okay. Thank you. 220 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,400 >> So, Todd, what Basically, what we should 221 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,040 have him do is pay that bill off 222 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,240 and then let him start the service. 223 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,880 >> Yeah, he can start service in his name. 224 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:10,680 Yeah. 225 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:11,880 >> That'd be the 226 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,720 >> Yeah, but paying off the bill is always 227 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,880 an option, so you guys can do what you 228 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:25,230 need to do on that. 229 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,360 Okay. Any other questions or did he drop 230 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,080 off there? 231 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,800 >> Uh 232 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,720 Was there a question on the patio, the 233 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,480 concrete patio? 234 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:34,320 For the dog 235 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,800 >> grandfathered uh 236 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,280 that that patio dock that was from the 237 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,880 1940s 238 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,560 or the patio dock. That patio, what we 239 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,800 think is a patio, um we'll have to go 240 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,880 out there and look at it, but uh it's 241 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,320 been there since 1940. 242 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,520 >> Uh we shouldn't say that until we are I 243 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,160 You've been told that. So, that doesn't 244 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,920 mean that that's accurate. We've been 245 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,440 told a lot of things that are 246 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:57,600 >> Well, we need to go out and take a look 247 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,400 at it, so. 248 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:00,320 >> It's old. 249 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:00,640 >> Okay. 250 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,240 >> The The question is, Todd, is are docks 251 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,080 the only thing that are grandfathered in 252 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,200 at the lake? 253 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,360 >> Mhm. 254 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,760 Well, let me ask you this. Is it a a 255 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,120 structure? I mean, it's on city 256 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:13,840 property? 257 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,040 >> It's a concrete patio that probably 258 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,080 looks at least 10 by 10 if not bigger, 259 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:26,550 and it's 75% on ours and 25% on theirs. 260 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,595 » Okay, and we don't I don't 261 00:08:29,595 --> 00:08:29,880 >> [clears throat] 262 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:30,520 >> know it's 263 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:31,840 a certain age. 264 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,960 Well, I think arguably, I mean, the the 265 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,400 grandfather clause in in some respects 266 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,000 is I think an accommodation to them 267 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,080 because it remains the city's property. 268 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,400 So, um and and we get we get to 269 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,800 designate that as a nuisance issue and direct it to be removed on the 270 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,160 city's property if we wanted to. 271 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,200 Just because [clears throat] we can, cuz 272 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,800 it's our property. 273 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:57,880 Now, 274 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,160 if you if 275 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,560 but but it it may be the case that if it 276 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:05,000 stays on there and we don't want to 277 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,040 remove it, that we'd have to accept it 278 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,920 in the condition it's in. 279 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,480 Like and it would be like any other 280 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,280 non-conforming use. They can't change 281 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:14,640 it, they can't 282 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,080 they replace it, they can't, you know, 283 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,680 whatever, build some new deck on it or 284 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:21,280 something. It's just going to stay the 285 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,920 way it is. 286 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,080 So, [clears throat] 287 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,600 um I don't know if that answers the 288 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,200 question, but um you know, I I would 289 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,600 the the dock situation for grandfather's 290 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,400 clause is basically an accommodation for 291 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,280 um you know, 292 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,280 folks who built the docks and did things 293 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,360 and we could do the different things one 294 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,440 and two, but that's it's just a policy. 295 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,390 Does that make sense? 296 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,120 Yeah, it does. 297 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,840 >> Okay. Now, we'll leave table to the next 298 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,160 meeting, so why don't we think on what 299 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,400 he said and we'll talk about it again. 300 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:02,040 Well, let's go back to Sandy Darvo and Trout and Chatra and 301 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,840 if we're going to make a decision, that 302 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:04,600 is. We don't have to. 303 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,160 >> we should make a decision tonight. 304 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,440 I don't know what the rest of you feel, 305 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,160 but I'm not into giving them a payment 306 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,440 plan and or allowing them to stay there 307 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,960 without utilities. 308 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,080 >> Well, we've already notified them that 309 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,960 they can't stay there without utilities. 310 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,680 If we want to go forward, then we have 311 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:23,320 to go through the courts 312 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,680 to work on the eviction process. 313 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:27,040 And I think that's what we should do. 314 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,360 >> It sounds like we need to re-placard 315 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:29,800 because it's been 2 years since we did 316 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:30,480 all that. 317 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:31,520 >> I just did it. 318 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:31,960 >> Yeah. 319 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,960 >> It's No, it's been sooner than that, 320 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:34,680 guys. 321 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:36,040 >> I don't feel like that. 322 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:36,800 >> Because 323 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:37,640 >> It was around this time. 324 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,120 >> maybe they've been placarded twice. 325 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:42,040 I [clears throat] placarded 326 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,320 >> they've been off for 3 years, I thought. 327 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,440 Yeah, it was closed for 3. 328 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,839 But I thought we just now placarded them 329 00:10:49,839 --> 00:10:51,440 like in the last 8 months, something 330 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:51,640 like that. 331 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:58,030 >> I placarded in October. 332 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,760 Sage, did you hear that, Todd? 333 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,440 >> Yeah, [clears throat] I mean, I 334 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,000 Whatever the case may be, I'd say if 335 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,480 they've moved out and they moved back. 336 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,762 >> They never moved back. 337 00:11:08,762 --> 00:11:09,200 >> [snorts] 338 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,120 >> They never left? 339 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:10,920 >> No. 340 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,680 >> Okay. Well, we're just chasing our tails 341 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:19,480 then. I mean, guys, like if they're not in compliance, I I guess 342 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,040 the discussion is 343 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,120 What's the question? Are you saying do 344 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,400 we reinstate them and let them pay for 345 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:26,800 water over time? 346 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,360 >> No, do we have to re-placard them again 347 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,000 or 348 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,080 and if so, then we go through the courts 349 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,307 to have them removed. 350 00:11:34,307 --> 00:11:34,400 >> [clears throat] 351 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,440 >> Yeah. 352 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:35,800 >> Okay. 353 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,120 >> Yeah, well, 354 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,880 yeah, it's not going to like I said, 355 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,360 like last time, it's not going to be 356 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:41,680 easy because 357 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:45,440 again, you're going to placard them and then 358 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:46,400 you're going to have to go through 359 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,760 rigmarole with the court to get anything 360 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:49,920 done. 361 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:50,560 And so 362 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:52,200 >> Well, it hasn't been easy for three 363 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,680 years the way we've done it. 364 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:57,000 Sorry to cut you off. 365 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,000 >> Yeah. 366 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:58,960 No. 367 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,190 Go ahead. 368 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,640 » I The process can't take three years 369 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,600 that it's taken thus far doing it the 370 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,960 way that we've done it with multiple 371 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,320 times of giving them payment plans that 372 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,200 have been forfeited. 373 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,080 >> Yep. 374 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,920 >> I mean, we can't keep hitting 375 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,200 banging our head against the same fence 376 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,680 posts and expecting a different result. 377 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:24,760 >> I don't think we should turn them back 378 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:25,720 on. 379 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,120 If they want to start a payment plan on 380 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,000 their own and start making payments, 381 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,120 that's all well and good. 382 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,200 >> And get paid off, is that what you're 383 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:31,520 saying? 384 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,520 >> Yeah. But in the meantime, they exposed 385 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:35,520 They're not supposed to be there at all 386 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,110 anyway. 387 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,839 » Do we need letters or we can go straight 388 00:12:39,839 --> 00:12:43,080 to the placard in this case? 389 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,880 >> Um I think I'll I'll need to take a look 390 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:45,960 at the code, but I think you can use 391 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,839 placard them if you have 392 00:12:47,839 --> 00:12:49,880 verifiable information that they don't 393 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,839 have water. I mean, you you know if you 394 00:12:51,839 --> 00:12:54,000 don't have water, so but the code would 395 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,240 say hey, you placard it and I think 396 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,480 we've got obviously on these we done it 397 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,920 before, so you've got the forms, so 398 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,480 I feel good about just giving them that 399 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,400 note. Just giving placarding it and 400 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:05,839 calling it that. 401 00:13:05,839 --> 00:13:07,040 >> Okay. 402 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,480 >> And telling them that they need to get 403 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,200 if they're going to get paid up and 404 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,440 maybe we'll 405 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:12,520 not 406 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:13,839 but they got [clears throat] to pay 407 00:13:13,839 --> 00:13:15,240 first. 408 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,440 >> But and otherwise, we go forward on the 409 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,760 other prong, talk to the county 410 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:21,920 attorney, 411 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,000 etc., etc. 412 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,640 >> Yeah. If that's what you guys want to 413 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,640 do, we'll do it. 414 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,520 >> And we will not let them transfer until 415 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:31,600 this is paid off. 416 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:32,160 >> Right. 417 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,840 >> Transfer names. 418 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,280 >> If you don't turn it back on, you don't 419 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:35,920 need to. 420 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:42,679 >> Right. 421 00:13:42,689 --> 00:13:43,160 » [cough] 422 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,480 >> Excuse me. 423 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:50,040 >> And you know, that's kind of that's what's fair for the citizens. 424 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,840 >> Do we need a motion to this effect? 425 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,200 >> No. 426 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,320 That's 427 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,880 uh that's in Sally's bailiwick as far as 428 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,200 I can tell, unless you're talking about 429 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,440 You're not going to do anything with the 430 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,080 bills or anything. 431 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,280 Um 432 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,640 that's 433 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,960 all you need. 434 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,889 >> Okay. 435 00:14:08,889 --> 00:14:11,110 >> [clears throat] 436 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,920 » All right, I think that's good. Okay, 437 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,560 Brett, move to adjourn. Do I have a 438 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:16,560 second? Jason. 439 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:17,680 You guys are killing me right now. All 440 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:18,714 in favor. 441 00:14:18,714 --> 00:14:19,080 >> [clears throat] 442 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:19,960 >> All right, thanks, Todd. 443 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:26,030 >> Goodnight, everybody. Goodnight. 444 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:44,270 » Uh motion passed. 445 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:45,570 Shout out to 446 00:14:45,570 --> 00:14:46,000 >> [laughter] 447 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,870 >> I know you can't. 448 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,190 I can't behave. 449 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,430 Can we do chairs? 450 00:14:53,430 --> 00:14:54,600 >> [laughter] 451 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:55,800 >> All right, you know, let's go to state 452 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:56,520 surplus. 453 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,560 >> I'm a mess, Todd. 454 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,360 >> I'm going to order in. I got I got two 455 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:00,600 in my office. 456 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,040 I don't think I'm working this Friday. 457 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,839 >> I need the vented, like the air flow. 458 00:15:04,839 --> 00:15:06,800 It's so hot. 459 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:07,720 >> You guys think you guys have all the 460 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,520 money to get all the new nice stuff. 461 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,600 >> Go get me some costs. 462 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,440 >> Get the X chair and this has got the fan 463 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,960 built in.