1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,320 Okay, thank you very much. 2 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:18,320 We are going to open the SDK city council meeting. We're 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,880 going to start with the uh pledge of allegiance, please. 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:31,439 » To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it 5 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:35,370 stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice 6 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,390 for all. [clears throat] 7 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:44,000 » Thank you very much. Satie, can I get roll call, please? 8 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,600 » Councelor Delerto >> here. 9 00:00:44,559 --> 00:00:48,879 » Councelor Dozal >> here. 10 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:50,640 » Councelor Hill here. Councelor Mrighty >> here. 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,399 » Councelor Metaf >> here. 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,760 » Councelor Tenbush >> here. 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:01:01,359 » Mayor Drinkwine >> here. Thank you very much. All right, 14 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:04,879 sir. Sorry I'm late, guys. And when you get older, forget about that time 15 00:01:03,199 --> 00:01:07,920 change. Um, so you have the pledge of just have 16 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:14,320 the roll call. Everything's good. We're at the uh first assistant group comment 17 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:20,600 » and we do have one in front. All right. 18 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,600 Well, Tom Thompson. 19 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:35,520 Well, my name is Tom Thompson and today the city of Esticada here, they revoked 20 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:41,759 my license on my business and they shut the water off and I am not sure exactly 21 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:47,920 why being we stopped operations in our food cart selling to everyday purposes 22 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:52,079 like we were on the 25th. Melanie had called and said that she was that I 23 00:01:49,840 --> 00:02:00,079 needed to submit my gaywater grease trap system. 24 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:04,079 I am exempt from this system because I'm a food cart and I have a company that 25 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:07,280 properly pumps my system out and takes it to where it needs to be properly 26 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:14,720 disposed of and I pay for those services. I have sent her all of the 27 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:21,280 paperwork on all of that along with Sir Miss Drinkwine code enforcement 28 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:26,360 and Melanie. I've given four four of you different emails on this and I would 29 00:02:22,879 --> 00:02:26,360 like to know why. 30 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:34,319 » Back to you all and get back to school. >> Okay. 31 00:02:32,319 --> 00:02:38,239 » Because we haven't done anything wrong and we have been 100% compliant. We've 32 00:02:36,879 --> 00:02:43,920 taken all the things down. Everything that you told us to move and do, we have 33 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:49,120 done all those things. So I am curious why 34 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:53,120 a followup. So, you can't give me the direct answer right now means you sent 35 00:02:50,879 --> 00:02:58,120 me the email today stating that my license was revoked and that sort of 36 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,120 thing. 37 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,879 » Pardon me? >> No. 38 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,800 » No. I do believe this is my time. This is my three minutes to ask you that 39 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:06,400 question. And >> three minutes, but not your three 40 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:09,920 minutes to demand anything. Okay. >> Yeah. I I know I know, sir. Drink wine. 41 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:13,440 I know what you said the last time that I was here. Did you follow through with 42 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,640 me and get a meeting with me? Like I asked for you guys to meet up with me. 43 00:03:14,959 --> 00:03:20,080 No, you haven't bothered. You haven't bothered to call and set anything up. 44 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,319 And then at the end of your meeting, I don't understand 45 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:26,159 » a place to argue about this. This really isn't. 46 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:29,680 » And you know what? When is it? >> Cuz you won't give me a call. 47 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:33,360 » She don't have the answers. >> So, I would really like to know when. 48 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:35,920 » You keep blowing me off and blowing me off. 49 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,280 » Nobody's blowing you off. >> Yeah, 50 00:03:36,239 --> 00:03:40,959 » we're all right here. >> I've requested time, you know, 51 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:44,480 » and and and and you're not the one we were wanting to speak with. 52 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:47,920 » Okay. uh in the communication that I saw there was nothing saying I want directly 53 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,640 to speak with the man. >> We stated that when we were here the 54 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:54,239 last time that we wanted to speak with these two gentlemen right here 55 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,400 » but further communication you know it looks 56 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,360 » there was further communication Melanie was informed and she sent us over the 57 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:03,120 information from him that they were going to get in contact that I sent over 58 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:06,319 the mayor all your information so that he can get in contact with you and set 59 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,280 up a meeting with you. That was the email that she had stated and sent to 60 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,640 me. So that's the reason why I'm asking this question. Why did you not follow 61 00:04:10,799 --> 00:04:16,000 through? Hey, that's on me. >> I'm a business owner in this county and 62 00:04:14,239 --> 00:04:18,560 I don't understand why you treating me like this. 63 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:22,479 » I'm not treating you anyway, you know, from the beginning. 64 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:25,759 » So, the city is Yes, the city here to argue this point. Okay, we're not here 65 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:32,080 to argue this point, >> but I'm going to entertain you here and 66 00:04:27,759 --> 00:04:37,520 and tell you I did not forget you. I didn't even see this email about meeting 67 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:40,560 with you personally. I haven't seen it. But when I I I guarantee you I will look 68 00:04:39,759 --> 00:04:42,720 at my computer and say, >> "Oh, we don't even care now because we 69 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:47,199 know how much you really care about your citizens sophisticated." So you don't or 70 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:51,120 any of the small businesses and that's exactly how I feel. 71 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:54,479 » Okay. Well, you've had your three minutes now. We 72 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:58,440 » Yes, I have. >> Very good. See talking 73 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,720 and sitting over there and laugh like that. Mr. 74 00:05:07,919 --> 00:05:14,720 is not >> who is laughing. 75 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:18,720 » To be fair, to be fair, before they left uh the last meeting, they he did 76 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:22,160 specifically ask both of you in person. >> He did to meet with us. But 77 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:26,639 » so we didn't get a chance to talk and find out that, did we? 78 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:30,320 » But to be fair, he did personally. >> That's not the argument. 79 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:34,000 » That wasn't the argument, J. But thank you for your help on this. 80 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:38,240 » I'll follow up on with that question. that wasn't a actually wasn't a concern 81 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:42,880 with the operations anymore because they had settled that. But I'll follow up 82 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:45,919 with them and copy all of you on it. >> I appreciate that. If we could just give 83 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:50,000 them information at the very least or at least we could have the information more 84 00:05:47,919 --> 00:05:53,919 so so that we can educate the community in a proper way because I know that this 85 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:57,280 is going to draw a lot of questions. Let's just make sure we're clear on it. 86 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,720 Be my best thing. I don't think it's fair to attack any leadership in this 87 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:05,680 room for that. I mean, this whole situation is emotionally charged. Yes, 88 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:09,360 » but >> he did ask for that, Jerry. I I will 89 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:13,360 acknowledge that he did. He did. I thought he pointed at 90 00:06:11,039 --> 00:06:17,680 » uh myself. I wasn't sure if it was you and me or council 91 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:22,639 » Hill actually. I thought, >> but either way, I do have his email. I 92 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:27,039 personally will follow up again. I did email them from my work email, but 93 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:30,199 sometimes I have issues with that. So, thank 94 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:30,199 » you. 95 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,400 Okay. 96 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:42,080 All right. So, do we have anybody else online? Anybody uh wishes to go out to 97 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:46,880 the mayor today? That'd be a nice time right now when we get it all out since 98 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:52,720 I'm such a horrible person. I appreciate all of you though. So, thank you for 99 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:56,160 what you do. Um that said, we're going to move on to the consent agenda. You've 100 00:06:54,800 --> 00:07:00,400 all had a chance to read over the consent agenda. Are there any things 101 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:06,160 that stand out that >> I'd like to pull out? Item C, the 102 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:09,680 resolution uh city council uh authorizes city manager grant 103 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:15,199 application acceptance authority. >> Okay. All right. We'll move that on to 104 00:07:12,319 --> 00:07:19,199 council business. Uh on the rest, is everything 105 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:23,840 up to par? Everybody good with it? >> Okay. Can I get a motion on the floor? 106 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:26,080 » I move to approve the consent agenda as modified. 107 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,280 » Second. >> Okay. Got a first and second. All those 108 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:34,800 in favor say I. >> I. All those opposed. Motion passes. 109 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:41,599 Thank you very much for that. Council business. Um we're here to discuss two 110 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:46,319 items now because we moved um C down to council business. So we'll start off 111 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:48,639 with that one first if that's okay. Um and I will let you take it away on that 112 00:07:47,919 --> 00:07:53,759 one. >> Yeah. the um 113 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:58,960 having just gone through all that code stuff and with just experience on the 114 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:05,199 council so far, uh it's my experience that grants often are encumbered with 115 00:08:01,039 --> 00:08:14,400 some sort of strings attached. Uh be it uh oversight or requirements 116 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:22,160 or or whatever it may be. And this um this language is a little too um 117 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:26,960 uh broad. I wouldn't want I would want if like one of the things I read in the 118 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:31,919 code thing was that we if we accepted money from this particular organization, 119 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:36,880 we were granting the state 30 years of being in our business. Uh and that's 120 00:08:34,479 --> 00:08:44,080 just not something that that I would be interested in doing. And so um I'm not 121 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:48,720 sure. and and it actually made me think, how often are we actually seeing grants 122 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:54,480 come across our our desk um where we've got enough 123 00:08:51,920 --> 00:09:00,000 time to actually look and and see what those strings are. I would be very 124 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:05,600 interested in when we're getting a a uh description of of what the item is that 125 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:10,959 we're looking at of having a subsection showing what the requirements of that 126 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:16,320 grant are with regards to incumbrances, be it requirements or or what have you. 127 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:19,440 But in this instance, I just think it's too broad and and I would vote no on it 128 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:25,320 in this form. >> Okay. Anybody else on this issue? 129 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:33,120 Melissa, >> so I also was looking at that was one of 130 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:37,279 the one items that I was curious about because I know that there's been 131 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:41,440 conversation whether it's here or out in general public. Um, grants do sometimes 132 00:09:39,839 --> 00:09:46,080 have things attached to them as far as like scratch my back, I'll scratch 133 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:51,279 yours, layman's terms. But, um, this one in particular, if I could get some 134 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:55,519 clarity on, it was already in motion to sign up for because we were waiting on 135 00:09:53,200 --> 00:10:00,800 it to open because it was directly affecting the cost of the wastewater 136 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:04,720 treatment plan, right? Is that what it was? 137 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,440 » Yeah. I'm not sure which >> Well, I'm sorry. What was the question? 138 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:12,240 Yeah, >> this particular grant that 139 00:10:10,959 --> 00:10:15,519 we're specifying it was on the wastewater treatment. We were waiting 140 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:18,880 for Okay. So, that's just an example though. Waiting. 141 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:22,480 » Yeah, this was for the water the one that needed to be signed before your 142 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:27,519 next meeting before I knew this meeting was going to uh take place and we could 143 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:30,079 get this handled um was for the water treatment plant for a million dollars. 144 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,120 We were going to ask >> Okay. Yeah. I wanted to bring that up 145 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:37,839 because I wouldn't I wasn't quite sure of the time stamp on that, but like the 146 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:42,720 essence of uh jumping on the ball when they do come up for 147 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:46,720 applying for and in this instance that would be an example of something that 148 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:50,959 would like come forward. Do they just do that without us knowing that first 149 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:55,279 because we already know that that's coming or is that Do you understand what 150 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:58,320 I'm saying? Yeah, I mean I think Elena's been good with coming to us with some of 151 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:04,399 these grant opportunities >> and giving us a little bit of a insight 152 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:08,320 into some of them uh in the past. Um I think they're looking for a more 153 00:11:05,839 --> 00:11:14,720 convenient way to get these grants taken care of um than what we've had now. Uh 154 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:18,880 I'm I'm not in agreement with this particular item for other reasons. I 155 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:25,839 think you know the bottom part that was added there in emergency preparedness 156 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:30,000 having Melanie be the sign off on that >> or whoever the city manager is at the 157 00:11:27,279 --> 00:11:34,560 time. >> Okay. Um I I had an issue with that part 158 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:38,399 but I was going to discuss that but Mike go ahead. 159 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:44,399 » I just want to clarify is this asking for you guys to have the authority to 160 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:48,640 apply for grants but not finalize them. >> Correct. So, say there's a short window 161 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,839 and you're wanting to apply for something, you apply for it. The 162 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:57,200 contract still comes before the city council to look at the details of the 163 00:11:55,279 --> 00:12:03,440 contract, look at the responsibilities, the performance requirements, all of 164 00:12:00,399 --> 00:12:07,519 that stuff before we approve the we still have to approve the contract for 165 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:10,000 the grants or is there a situation where you're going to be able to apply for a 166 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:14,480 grant where it doesn't come in front of us first? Typically the contract would 167 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:21,040 always come to you typically into the consent agenda. Um there might be 168 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:25,920 there might be some grant actually there could be a grant at any time that's just 169 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:30,160 a random grant that I could apply for. They're not asking for a signatory 170 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:34,560 authority. Um and so I could apply for it and then I could receive it for 171 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:37,680 whatever whatever area it might be helping on the project. this particular 172 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:43,200 grant that just came out of the governor's office um was going to allow 173 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:46,639 us to apply for up to a million dollars and so we were going to apply for that 174 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:50,079 for the water treatment plant and it was a very short it would I think September 175 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:56,079 8th was the deadline you're not meeting till the 14th um and they wanted um 176 00:12:52,959 --> 00:12:59,680 certain proof of signature signature authority and so that's what where 177 00:12:58,079 --> 00:13:03,760 something like this a resolution like this would help saying yes I do have 178 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:08,079 that typically we're not going to at least I'm not going to be applying for 179 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:12,480 things that I would think that the council would not agree with. There is 180 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:16,079 always strings attached with money. It's kind of a pain in the neck sometimes. I 181 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:20,399 know that our finance director can say yes, it is um you know, we have to turn 182 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:24,959 in extra things and we have to but is it a million dollars worth of extra 183 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:28,880 strings? Probably not. Is it a couple hundred thousand dollars worth? It's 184 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:34,079 probably not. So typically the grants and most of the grants we get are are um 185 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:38,959 through like other government programs and partners. So um they can have 186 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:43,440 strings attached. Yes. Typically it's worth it to get the money that would um 187 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:47,120 then not have to come from our taxpayers or rateayers. 188 00:13:45,279 --> 00:13:49,519 I don't know if that that overspoke your question probably. So 189 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:54,959 » I guess what I was trying to get at is is if there's an obligation from the 190 00:13:52,079 --> 00:13:57,600 city to fulfill in a grant, is there typically a contract associated with 191 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,800 that >> rather than just signing some 192 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:05,360 » Right. Correct. And they would list out what our responsibilities are and we 193 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:10,720 that would have to come to the council. >> I guess if if we're not I mean the the 194 00:14:08,959 --> 00:14:14,880 way I feel about is that the the city council appoints it hires the city 195 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:20,160 manager. we're choosing the leader of the city and 196 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:24,720 I trust her with the authority to to to apply for grants. If there's some sort 197 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:29,760 of contractual obligation of the city and that still comes before the city 198 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:33,279 council to dissect and go through before we finalize it, then I think we would 199 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,079 have the opportunity to object to something that we didn't like there. And 200 00:14:34,639 --> 00:14:39,440 if we're not going to give her the authority, then we need to come up with 201 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:43,600 a solution for when there's an opportunity, a short window opportunity 202 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:48,000 or everyone needs to just be willing to have like an emergency session and come 203 00:14:45,839 --> 00:14:50,959 in and have a meeting to give her the authority to do that so that we're not 204 00:14:49,279 --> 00:14:54,399 missing out on opportunities for funding on some of these large ticket item 205 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,800 projects like the water treatment center, the wastewater treatment 206 00:14:55,519 --> 00:15:00,639 facility we're still trying to get more money for. And I know that some of these 207 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:03,680 things can come up or you may get a call from Salem saying, "Hey, we haven't had 208 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:07,440 any applications for this. you guys are perfect for this and then there's a four 209 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:11,120 to six week window where we don't have a meeting that month. I just don't want us 210 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:15,519 to miss out on the opportunity. So if we if we're going to not give her the 211 00:15:13,519 --> 00:15:19,680 authority to do it, then we need to come up with a solution I think to deal with 212 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,240 those situations where we or the situation that they're in right now 213 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:26,079 where they have to come up with something before the next meeting we had 214 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:31,680 scheduled. So that's my thought on it. So, in my experience, what it seems is, 215 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:37,199 you know, I've seen a list of all the grants that that Elena has done. And 216 00:15:34,959 --> 00:15:42,160 frankly, I don't remember any of those coming, you know, running by. they just 217 00:15:39,199 --> 00:15:46,399 go and and sign up for my understanding of the process is they sign up for these 218 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:50,800 these grants or whatever they are and then and then they come by and I you 219 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:55,040 know I have seen some that that need to be approved but but I've also seen them 220 00:15:53,519 --> 00:16:01,759 where we've got we've got to approve this tonight um because you know the 221 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:06,720 deadline is is Monday or Tuesday or something like that so we're short time 222 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:11,440 frame so I completely agree with what uh what you're saying both of you guys. Um, 223 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:14,880 in terms of giving her the flexibility, um, to do something like that, I just 224 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:21,856 don't know that that's not what's happening already. Um, and and so I 225 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:26,399 would just want to make sure, which [clears throat] I'm seeing agreement 226 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:30,240 with that, too, is that we're not um being obligated to do things that we 227 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:34,160 haven't had a chance to talk about uh, in a timely manner instead of having the 228 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:38,639 information dumped on us and we've got this meeting or this packet to figure it 229 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:44,800 out. something like that. So, if we could um sort that timing aspect out um 230 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:50,000 I'd be a more amenable. >> Yeah. 231 00:16:47,279 --> 00:16:56,079 » Yeah. I was [clears throat] I'm in agreement that we do trust you to 232 00:16:52,800 --> 00:17:03,360 be clear but and I know that we can't always just look online and be like the 233 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:08,640 online criticism is what is truth but we can look online and say that there's an 234 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:14,400 overwhelming sense of we don't have any idea what is going on at a from a 235 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,880 control standpoint that is a very astounding 236 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:24,000 generalization that we don't really have a say. We're not in the control in the 237 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:28,400 mix. Now, I'm not saying that you don't make the right decisions. But what I'm 238 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:32,240 saying is the community is not asking us to hand stuff over to the staff to make 239 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:36,640 decisions. They're asking us to show them that we are making decisions to 240 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:40,160 take control and to take the town in the direction that they want to see the town 241 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:44,000 go into. And to me, that includes grants. And a way that I would be 242 00:17:41,679 --> 00:17:49,039 concerned is when we look to like state funded grants, and I won't speak to 243 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:54,160 because I'm not educated enough on it to say that this is in totality how things 244 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:58,160 are. But what I would say is like with Thrive community grants and things like 245 00:17:55,919 --> 00:18:01,679 that, it then signs you up for state authority or people like that. get to 246 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:08,000 come in and then when they suggest things, suggestion becomes more of the 247 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:12,000 mandate at some point or they shape their things very much on the state's 248 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:15,919 guidance towards a rural vision versus a community's leadership's guidance of 249 00:18:13,919 --> 00:18:21,039 their identity in the way that they're trying to develop it. So from that 250 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:24,799 standpoint, [clears throat] I like and I agree with you that I don't necessarily 251 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:28,640 think that it's not happening already. I've not I've seen stuff come to us 252 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:33,200 through the consent agenda. to Melany's point that we've agreed on. And I'm not 253 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:36,080 saying that it's not happening, but I can't remember a time that we've 254 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:39,440 discussed should we or should we not go for this. It's just something that's 255 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:46,480 been put on or we're being told that we were awarded a grant that quite frankly 256 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:51,280 is usually about funding to come up with a plan or a master plan funding of some 257 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:55,039 sort is what it typically or helping us with the mills infrastructure layout or 258 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:58,960 the soil samples or I'm not saying that that's the accurate thing but those type 259 00:18:56,559 --> 00:19:03,280 of descript those type of descriptive things. So my concern would be from the 260 00:19:01,039 --> 00:19:09,440 state side what obligations come with that once we introduced another agency 261 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:14,960 into our decision- making or into our I guess advisory if you will and then the 262 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:19,039 other part was it got into infrastructure and other things like 263 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:24,080 that and then it talks about emergency management and I don't see how those are 264 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:27,600 related right so to me when you're saying in the case of an emergency she 265 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:32,799 should be able to make decision well absolutely she's the city manager 266 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:36,480 she should be able to make decisions. But in case of emergency, isn't the 267 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:42,400 infrastructure that they still haven't fixed from 15 years ago that's not 268 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:46,000 related to me. So that's another I just don't like the way that this is laid out 269 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:51,440 in the way that it's read. I'd entertain it rewritten 270 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:57,280 with clarity to your point about maybe to what council Melroy is saying with 271 00:19:53,360 --> 00:20:03,440 clarity given saying that you can apply for whatever XYZ but when it comes down 272 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:07,840 to us signing the final dot to accept it that we've all had time to make sure we 273 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,960 look through the document or whatnot. And then for the solution based, you 274 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:15,360 said if we don't give her the authority, I'm just thinking trying to answer you 275 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:19,840 on that if we weren't to. I would be willing to say as a council maybe we 276 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:25,200 come to some kind of a consensus or agreement that it's whoever Melanie 277 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:29,200 could get quorum with first, the first four that she can get on the phone to 278 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:32,799 agree to a meeting and set a meeting and then she can still reach out to 279 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:36,320 everybody. But as soon as she has quorum, she's got authority to make a 280 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:39,760 meeting and then that's what we're rolling. and we just have a consensus 281 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:44,880 ruling that if we're out of town or if there's work or there's something going 282 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:47,440 on as long as there's a quorum, we we have to trust each other and quite 283 00:20:46,159 --> 00:20:52,720 frankly, if we don't trust each other, the community does. So, yeah, I'm I I 284 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:58,799 think you're on the right track and you're on the right track. A like Mike's 285 00:20:54,799 --> 00:21:02,400 version of us being uh able to make an emergency meeting if that's the case if 286 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:08,400 we want to be in contact with this whole situation. I think yours of bringing 287 00:21:05,039 --> 00:21:12,640 four together at one time if you can't get everybody would be a good idea. So 288 00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:15,600 yeah, I think both those work. Uh Melanie. 289 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:19,600 » Okay, just I have written down my point so I stay on track. Okay, so first of 290 00:21:17,679 --> 00:21:24,960 all, I want to say there have been a lot of um kind of accusatory comments going 291 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:30,880 around on Facebook lately and if anybody has any questions about um any of those 292 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:35,360 comments, you're always free to call me, email me. Um, if a question comes in 293 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:38,480 from one counselor, not of course emailing the whole council, but if I get 294 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:42,159 a question from one counselor that I think would benefit everybody, I will 295 00:21:39,919 --> 00:21:46,720 send it out to the whole council so that you're all aware. Um, and so I'm happy 296 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:50,960 to do that. And I will say this is the most engaged council that we've had in 297 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:54,559 the past, you know, few years, especially right now. I think everybody 298 00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:58,480 is completely engaged. You know what's going on. You're here at every meeting. 299 00:21:56,559 --> 00:22:04,159 You're reading your packets. Um, we discuss the packet ahead of time. And so 300 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:09,200 I I don't know where the community would be coming from thinking that the council 301 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:17,679 isn't leading this charge because um I see all very engaged and um providing 302 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:20,960 direction to staff. Um secondly the um we have there's many grants 303 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:25,840 opportunities that come up that we do pass on u because like for instance that 304 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:29,120 TGM grant um comes around there's grants that come around every year from 305 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:33,440 different agencies and I'll get email from somebody and it's like hey this is 306 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:38,400 open again like yeah we don't have capacity to do it and I feel that the 307 00:22:35,679 --> 00:22:44,720 city manager and the our department heads will have a better grasp of how 308 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:48,799 much capacity staff has than the council who is setting the values and vision for 309 00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:52,880 the community. And so I I want you to be confident that if I don't think we can 310 00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:57,039 handle it, we're not going to do it. Um but there are there are things that we 311 00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:02,080 have to follow up on and then we have to meet the audit, you know, and things 312 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:07,440 like that. So um they we do pass on grants. So if I don't think we have 313 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:11,200 capacity um and then there there's a couple of whereas statements in at the 314 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:15,840 beginning of this it says it's referenced to infrastructure and parks 315 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:21,120 projects for which funding assistance is needed and the second whereas is um the 316 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:24,720 city of Esticada has authorized said projects through the budgetary master 317 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:29,280 planning process. So these aren't just random um random opportunities that are 318 00:23:27,919 --> 00:23:35,679 coming up. They're already a direction that we're heading. But if you do want 319 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:40,480 to um if the if the disaster management that does um if you want to strike that 320 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:45,440 that's fine. If you don't pass this or some variation of it or at least a 321 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:49,919 motion to say that the mayor or the city manager can sign this grant application 322 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:56,880 we'll miss it. Um that would be up to you. 323 00:23:53,039 --> 00:24:02,080 » Okay. Um, I personally want to dismiss the emergency preparedness part of bas 324 00:24:00,159 --> 00:24:04,880 out of it totally. Now, on the grant part, [snorts] 325 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:10,080 I'm in agreement with a couple of you on, like I said, on the way that plays 326 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:15,200 out on on how we do that. Now, I don't know how much any of you would trust the 327 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:19,120 mayor to be a part of that, but her comment about the mayor and the city 328 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:26,400 manager being in on grants, I like that better. I like it better because 329 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:33,039 you know one of us who's on this board is a part of that process. 330 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:38,159 So you hope that that person that you've put your trust in has your best interest 331 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:41,440 in mind. Um and that we're in enough agreement that we know each other around 332 00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:46,240 the table to know whether that's something that we could trust with 333 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:49,919 either me or whoever was picked to be a part of that. um if we wanted to make it 334 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:54,720 easier without bringing four people together. Now, the other option was the 335 00:24:52,159 --> 00:24:57,760 four people that Jonathan came up with I I think is a great idea. You know, if it 336 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:01,919 had to be an emergency meeting, we couldn't get everybody there. I 337 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:07,440 understand that, but four would be good. Um that also sounded good. So, I don't 338 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:10,320 know where you're all at. Um you would kind of have to 339 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,840 » I'd be first giving Melanie the authority, second if Melanie is not the 340 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:18,240 authority. whatever the quickest way to get the grant application in the 341 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:22,159 deadline, you or you or Melanie. And then third would be the the emergency 342 00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:26,400 meeting is kind of my order of what the way that 343 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:33,760 » I'd just like to give the authority to Melanie and then uh you know the other 344 00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:39,760 two options are um fine with me. I'd like that the one on uh point two on 345 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:45,279 notification um when they do submit the grant actually send us the information 346 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:48,640 on what's uh you know the basics of the grant itself but also the incumbrances 347 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:52,080 with it. >> I think that that uh 348 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:57,120 » checks check box. Yes sir. >> Okay. All right. 349 00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:02,799 » Agree on that. And as far as the last part, the emergency preparedness art, 350 00:26:00,159 --> 00:26:07,039 where do we all stand on that? Strike or leave. 351 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:13,120 » Yeah, we can we drop that. It's grants. >> Leave that. Okay. Drop. Leave. 352 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:20,080 » Uh I I like drop it for now. I mean, I'm 353 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:23,279 kind of unclear. What is the What are we coming to consensus? I understand what 354 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,000 » that's on the bottom part of that. You know you the first. 355 00:26:24,159 --> 00:26:31,360 » No, I got that part. But the what are we agreeing though? I I understand what 356 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:34,400 your point is. Are we agreeing on option one? What Mike and Jerry 357 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:36,480 » are going with? I'm kind of leaning towards 358 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,400 » I just want to kick like one one thing real quick, Jonathan, if if you don't 359 00:26:37,919 --> 00:26:42,799 mind. >> Is it just the way it reads on here is 360 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:46,640 that after it gives her the authority, the signatory the city manager designate 361 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:50,720 may submit and sign for competitive or discretionary grants granting agencies 362 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:54,320 without mayor and city council approval if no city matching funds required. 363 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:57,840 notification. She's going to notify us right away that she applied for it. 364 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:02,799 Acceptance. The city manager or designate will present for approval the 365 00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:06,080 grant award prior to acceptance before we take anything that's going to take 366 00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:09,120 any burden. That's being presented to the council. Correct. 367 00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:12,880 » But it's already signed. >> It's it's been applied for and we've 368 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,840 been awarded money and then we have to decide whether we want to accept the 369 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:21,679 money. So, we're going to have the opportunity. That's why I'm a little bit 370 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:25,919 lost on the like where the authority is being given away. She has the ability to 371 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:30,559 it. It's projects that are in our master plan or in our you know it's something 372 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:33,760 that we put in our budget. It's a large project that we're going for. They're 373 00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:39,279 applying for money. They get granted money. They have to come to us to accept 374 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:42,880 the money. Is it I'm I'm lost on the >> I think the argument was what what are 375 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:46,159 the hidden stipulations behind the grant? 376 00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:50,080 » Yeah. And and I understand as long as Yes. And it's is the weekend is the 377 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:54,080 argument that the weekend's not long enough to read up on it 378 00:27:52,320 --> 00:28:00,320 » in in essence. Yeah. I mean, if you're getting the packet, so just enough time. 379 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:03,760 And so if they're per No.2, if they're sending us the information the same time 380 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:08,000 they're sending in the grant >> for Yeah. And because then we've gotten 381 00:28:06,159 --> 00:28:12,159 notice of it. We're we're aware of what it is, what it entails. We have time to 382 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:15,600 digest it. We have to put in the work to read it before we get awarded it. But 383 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:20,159 then if you've done their the homework on that, I I just don't see any issues. 384 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,360 » It's not restricted by to a packet though. 385 00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:24,559 » Yeah. >> No. Yeah. I got you. If as long as 386 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,919 there's the simultaneous notification when they apply for it, 387 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:33,919 » it it reads like it's like it shouldn't be an issue at all. 388 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:37,679 I I think maybe a even simpler fix too for just clarity purposes because I do 389 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:43,200 hear what you're saying and I don't disagree with you presented like that 390 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:46,320 especially but what if it was in an order of operations this is not 391 00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:51,200 something that goes into the consent agenda anymore. You just make that a 392 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:58,000 council business item or whatever. make it an agenda item specifically so that 393 00:28:54,399 --> 00:29:02,880 the so that the excuse me the grant sorry is right there in front of us. 394 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:07,279 It's a discussed thing. It's not something that accidentally gets lost in 395 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:11,520 eight other things or four other things or however long the consent agenda is. 396 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,799 Then it still allows the authority. We do trust her. That's not been the 397 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:20,000 argument at all in this conversation. So I don't just to be clear I don't feel 398 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:24,640 like that that is the problem here. But I think that gives it makes it clear 399 00:29:22,159 --> 00:29:29,039 where then nobody in this conversation can say we weren't aware or we didn't 400 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:33,919 realize that we voted that through or so on so forth because it's easy to get 401 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:38,960 stuff mixed up in the consent agenda with the caveat that if if we're getting 402 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:43,279 the information in the packet at the same time that we're seeing it for the 403 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:47,840 first time then I agree then bring it down. But if we've gotten the 404 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:51,919 information before the before the even packet came out. So, we've had 405 00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:57,200 additional time to look through the consent agenda is handy. Um, 406 00:29:54,799 --> 00:30:01,520 » and so I can see >> I think we I think we always everyone 407 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:05,200 would have the opportunity any counselor would have the opportunity to pull it 408 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:08,640 out of the consent agenda every single time. They would have the opportunity 409 00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:12,880 to, but I think that leaving it in there would for the times when we don't, it 410 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:16,000 would make things run faster. But and then if if somebody just decided they 411 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,720 wanted to pull it out, they'd have the authority to be able to pull it out 412 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,600 every single time. may just look at the consent agenda before they voted on it 413 00:30:20,159 --> 00:30:25,880 and say, "I want to pull that out and we can discuss it." But 414 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:32,720 » last thought, I think the timeline here is like really condensed, too. So, 415 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,159 sometimes there's a quick timeline to apply, but then it's going to have to go 416 00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:40,320 through like are we even going to get this grant? Um, so you'd be notified 417 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:44,000 when we apply, but it it wouldn't be like we apply on Thursday and then 418 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:47,520 Monday you have to prove the contract because we wouldn't even know probably 419 00:30:45,919 --> 00:30:51,440 right away that whether we're going to get it and then if we do then there's 420 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:56,399 the contract time. So we'd be keeping you up to speed on on what's going. It 421 00:30:53,919 --> 00:31:01,039 wouldn't be an immediate typically it's not that you know within just a week or 422 00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:05,679 two that they would announce who gets awarded a grant. 423 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:09,600 » It's usually months. It usually is, even if the application process turns out to 424 00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:13,600 be quick. >> Maybe we could even introduce just a 425 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:17,039 quarterly grant update or something so we know where we're at in the process of 426 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,840 what grants and so on so forth. That would bring clarity as well when things 427 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:23,600 are coming up. We're not >> like a benchmark. 428 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,120 » Yeah. You know, I mean, I would love to see because I mean, one thing we've 429 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:30,320 asked in that line is more grants, especially parks, racks, different 430 00:31:28,399 --> 00:31:33,200 things. Bring more opportunities. So, I agree with you. the last thing we want 431 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:39,120 to do is handcuff them from being able to do that because we are over involved. 432 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:44,240 Right. I don't I don't disagree with your point on that. But I would I would 433 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:48,880 like to know more on what's going on. Trying to file it myself. It's difficult 434 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:53,440 sometimes. I will be honest. I'm sure I'm not alone. But I'll own it. 435 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,720 » No, I think that ties right in with because I've really enjoyed the 436 00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:00,720 department head reports. Get so much information from that. And so I think 437 00:31:58,399 --> 00:32:02,880 that's in the same bank. That's a good idea. 438 00:32:02,399 --> 00:32:07,200 » Okay. >> So, I move to approve resolution 439 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:13,600 2026-018 grant signing authority as written. 440 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,600 » Okay. And is that taking out or striking the 441 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:20,679 » Well, he said as written. Do you want to do it as written or do you want 442 00:32:17,679 --> 00:32:20,679 » Okay. 443 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:26,360 So, can I get a second on that? 444 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:38,600 All right. Motion dies on the floor. Uh, next motion. 445 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,600 » I move to approve resolution 2026-018 446 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:45,200 uh, striking the last line in background. This also authorizes the 447 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,159 city manager to apply for and sign grants related to a declared emergency 448 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,120 or disaster. >> Okay, I have first and second. Can I get 449 00:32:50,159 --> 00:32:53,440 the second? >> Second. 450 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:57,600 » Have first and second. All those in favor and let's do a roll call on that 451 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,720 one. See [clears throat] >> councelor Delto? Yes. 452 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,480 » Councelor Dozel. >> Yes. 453 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,240 » Hill. >> Yes. 454 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,080 » Councelor Mroy. >> Yes. 455 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,600 » Councelor Metap. >> Yes. 456 00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:09,120 » Councelor Chenbush. >> Yes. 457 00:33:08,159 --> 00:33:10,559 » Mayor Drink. >> Yes. 458 00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:16,399 » Motion passes. >> All right. Thank you very much for that. 459 00:33:12,399 --> 00:33:23,360 Uh, now we move on to council business. Uh, we are at the ballot measure 3-638. 460 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:28,399 And this is discussion. So, we need to figure out the wording. Uh, do you have 461 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:33,200 something, Mike? Maybe that's already >> I did and I sent it out earlier and I 462 00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:37,600 completely misread the characters for words and so we have a lot more words to 463 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:42,640 get in. We got I I got it down to 325 characters. It's very concise. 464 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:46,799 » Uh but it's we have room for >> word count format must not I think that 465 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:50,799 is I think you are right. Please handc count your statement to ensure your word 466 00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:56,240 count does not exceed 325. >> Word count word not character. That's 467 00:33:53,919 --> 00:33:58,320 how I read it, too. And then I started going, 468 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,320 » okay, it's a word. Okay. >> Yeah. 469 00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:04,320 » Bullet points, man. Bullet points. >> Yes. [laughter] So, I wrote something uh 470 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:10,720 but completely open to to whatever anyone thinks. And so, what I wrote is 471 00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:14,960 um vote yes on measure 3-638. After years of complaints, ongoing 472 00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:19,040 nuisance reports, and continuing lack of compliance, it is time to take back 473 00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:23,280 control of what's happening in our town. This measure does not affect retail 474 00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:28,320 companies. This measure does not impact recreational use. This measure does not 475 00:34:25,839 --> 00:34:34,000 impact medicinal use. This measure does not affect existing companies. What a v 476 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:37,839 a yes vote does is stop new companies from contributing to a persistent 477 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:43,720 nuisance affecting long-standing companies with the noxious output 478 00:34:39,919 --> 00:34:43,720 associated with this industry. 479 00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:53,040 » Can you read the last couple sentences one more time though? What a I'll start 480 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:56,480 with what a yes vote does is stop new companies from contributing to a 481 00:34:54,720 --> 00:35:01,119 persistent nuisance affecting long-standing companies with the noxious 482 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:05,520 output associated with this industry. And I'm totally open to suggestions for 483 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:11,000 this. >> It's my understanding that the reason 484 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,000 that we did that is I mean 485 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:19,760 saturating an area with just one business. Correct. Does that make sense? 486 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:23,440 So you're limited on spaces and as far as the industrial park and our 487 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:27,520 industrial park also embodies CTE program for youth and it's like in my 488 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:33,359 mind just goes straight to that environment and then yes the smell um 489 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:39,440 but also with not saturating one area with multiple of the same that make 490 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:45,520 sense is there any way that we can also 491 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:48,320 incorporate that into that understanding I don't know if that makes sense But I 492 00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:50,400 just >> Yeah, 493 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,560 » I feel like >> How many words is that done? 494 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:59,760 » I didn't count. >> It's I I stopped counting at about 60ish 495 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,440 when I was like halfway through, so I figured I was fine. 496 00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:06,800 » I just want I and I don't I didn't get the job. 497 00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:11,680 » Oh, no, no, no. It's fine. I I'm hoping I'm making myself clear on that one as 498 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:15,040 far as making sure that the because what I've gotten from people is 499 00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:20,400 like, why wouldn't we want to have that come in? And there's a very misconceive 500 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:24,720 misinformation on here in town versus industrial park. 501 00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:29,920 People aren't connecting the dots when it comes to us being over there and 502 00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:33,920 talking solely about that area and the whole city. That's something that's also 503 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,040 they're like, "Well, why wouldn't you want that tax money to come in?" Well, 504 00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:39,920 that's not what this is about. Has nothing to do with that. And there's a 505 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:44,960 lot of people that get very confused about that because as soon as you see 506 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:49,680 the word marijuana or hemp, you think recreational use, yes. Sales, taxes, 507 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:53,280 yes. And if we're saying no, they're like, well, why wouldn't you want that 508 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:57,280 to come in? Well, this isn't about that. This is about a saturation of an 509 00:36:54,960 --> 00:37:02,640 environment that is very limited to bringing in and we already 510 00:36:59,839 --> 00:37:07,200 have four of those over there. Correct. >> Those types that I think. 511 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:11,760 » Okay. So there with that said that's even more of a reason. I just want more 512 00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:17,680 clarity for the public to understand what it means not just a few topics and 513 00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:22,240 most of it and if we can get all of that in there that'd be great. 514 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:25,839 » I just wanted maybe if we could capture if we have the words for it room is just 515 00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:29,839 capture that we want to create a more welcoming environment 516 00:37:27,839 --> 00:37:34,160 » for new businesses and industries to come into our industrial industrial park 517 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:37,599 with good paying jobs. you know, capture that. You know, like if you are thinking 518 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,880 about moving into our industrial park and you're going and looking at a 519 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:44,720 property and all you just smell is weed everywhere when you're going out there. 520 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:48,880 It's not and you run a professional business. It's not some of the 521 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:53,520 complaints that we're hearing from uh the comp companies and some of our 522 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:57,280 largest employers in in the city are making those complaints as well. They 523 00:37:55,359 --> 00:38:01,119 they don't like the environment. And I think that other professional companies 524 00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:04,880 that have large employee bases are going to feel the same way if they're coming 525 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,760 and scoping out the industrial park for an opportunity to move a business into 526 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:12,160 here that's going to have great paying jobs. And I and I think that if we could 527 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:16,320 just mention that that we want to have a very, you know, a welcoming environment 528 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:22,400 in our industrial park for new businesses to be to feel comfortable 529 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:28,079 moving into our our city. um something along those lines I think would be that 530 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:34,320 the that the the not riskreward but the word I'm thinking 531 00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:39,839 the the uh the cost outweigh the the benefits you know we I think Sadi was 532 00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:43,680 great at giving me the number so the out of all those businesses that are down 533 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:48,480 there because I hear it all we we don't want to get the we want the tax revenue 534 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:51,760 from want tax it's $19,000 I mean it's not even equal to one 535 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:56,079 property. One goodsized company coming in and what they're going to pay in 536 00:38:53,359 --> 00:39:00,640 property taxes on a 5 acre parcel with a 100,000 foot building on it and 100 537 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:05,040 employees is going to pay four times that in property taxes alone. So, it's 538 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:11,280 not this huge benefit to the city. $19,000 in taxes compared to our budget 539 00:39:07,839 --> 00:39:14,800 is very minimal. Uh compared to the benefits of bringing a great company 540 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:18,320 into the industrial park for our city that for to employ people that live in 541 00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:22,720 our community so they don't have to travel outside the city for work. I we 542 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:28,400 can kind of capture that like that. >> So just to clarify too the the ordinance 543 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:33,760 itself covers the city of Esticada. It's not limited to the industrial park. It's 544 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:36,800 for the city. No, it's specific to the M1 zone in the industrial park as an 545 00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:40,480 allowed use. >> Now, I when I read it, I didn't read 546 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:45,280 that. When I actually read the the ordinance in the 547 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:51,119 Can you clarify that? >> I I believe it's the only zone where 548 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:55,520 it's allowed to be commercially produced and wholesale is in the M1 zone. There's 549 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,240 not another zone that allows for production and wholesale. 550 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:02,560 » Okay. And all I did, I didn't know the code that well. All I did was read what 551 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:07,920 the ordinance said and it didn't specify >> um the M1 zone. But what I added, but 552 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:13,760 this can be cut and paste and and whatever is what I added is um uh 553 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,359 persistent nuisance affecting long-standing companies with noxious 554 00:40:15,359 --> 00:40:21,040 output associated with this industry. The current situation is preventing new 555 00:40:19,359 --> 00:40:26,720 businesses with well-paying jobs from being welcomed into our industrial park. 556 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,760 And then we could, like I said, cut and paste or 557 00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:34,160 » I'd be hesitant to say preventing because it makes an assumption 558 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,320 » that I mean that's a statement of fact like there's a company that didn't move 559 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,920 in, right? >> And just that it something along the 560 00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:42,079 lines is that it's not the most in inhibiting 561 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,760 » is a barrier. >> Yeah. Is a barrier. I Yeah, I think 562 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,760 that's fair. >> Yeah. 563 00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:55,280 » I like the rest of it. I think >> I'm happy to finetune it that kind of 564 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,960 stuff with that. >> It's got the spirit of what what I want. 565 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:03,200 » I just want, >> you know, because made a point of making 566 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,960 emphatic statements. This measure does not affect retail companies. This 567 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:11,680 measure does not impact recreational use. This measure does not impact 568 00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:15,839 medicinal use and this measure does not uh affect existing companies. And you 569 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:19,280 can make those bullet points so that the people reading it can see it. Boom, 570 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:24,480 boom, boom, boom. I I would change the language to does not impact existing 571 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:29,680 companies to um allows existing companies to continue to operate because 572 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:34,560 it is impacting them in a way as far as like their ability to um sell to a new 573 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:39,920 company and get a license. So it is impacting them. So I I would say that 574 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:46,160 where for the existing companies portion that um allow allow allows existing 575 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:50,640 companies to continue to operate >> allows existing 576 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:54,319 » companies to continue to operate under their Yeah. Without getting long worried 577 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:59,359 about Does that sound good to you guys? 578 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:02,160 » This allows existing companies to continue to operate. 579 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,560 » Are you getting enough out of this to put something together? I cannot put 580 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:09,599 anything to >> and Melanie just question though is so 581 00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:13,839 we come up with this we come up with a statement as a council that we agree 582 00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:18,160 with everyone agrees with then we pay for the we pay for it it's not the city 583 00:42:16,319 --> 00:42:21,760 right so we're doing so >> how does that go if we need him to 584 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:26,000 polish if John's willing to and he polishes up the statement are we allowed 585 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,960 to communicate about that statement outside of the meeting 586 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:33,280 » no >> and we won't have another meeting in 587 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,359 time to do it so we need to polish it up Yeah, take your time. Polish it up 588 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,680 tonight. >> It won't be hard. 589 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,760 » Um, >> and then decide who wants their names on 590 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:47,119 it. You don't have to. Not everybody has to do this, but if you want to, you may. 591 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:51,920 » Just remember bullet points, punctuation. It doesn't count in your 592 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:57,760 word count. So, you're okay with that. >> So, um, 593 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,760 so the first paragraph is vote yes on measure. 594 00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:02,720 » Slow down one quick. I'm gonna get Word open. I'm gonna type it out while you're 595 00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:05,680 while you're reading it. And I'm And I type fast. 596 00:43:03,839 --> 00:43:09,040 » You mean you can't read this? >> Well, I just mean then we can edit it 597 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:12,400 quickly and >> I think it'll be the quickest way to to 598 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:17,359 get to it. >> Okay. Go ahead. 599 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,760 » Vote yes on measure 3-638. Period. 600 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:23,040 » 36. Say it again. >> 3-638. 601 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,240 Period. >> Got it. 602 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:30,960 » After years of complaints, ongoing nuisance reports, comma, 603 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:35,040 » a little after years of complaints. Look, my com 604 00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:42,000 » after years of complaints, ongoing nuisance reports, 605 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:46,160 and continuing lack of compliance, it is time to take back control. 606 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,599 » continuing and continuing lack of compliance 607 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:56,800 » and continuing lack of compliance. It is time to take back control of 608 00:43:52,720 --> 00:44:01,359 what's happening in our town. And these are bullet points coming up. 609 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:04,240 This measure does not affect >> town. Period. 610 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:08,720 » Uh, period. >> Bullet point. Uh, 611 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:11,720 » this measure does not affect retail companies. 612 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:17,920 » Bullet point. >> Impact retail companies. Does not affect 613 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:24,319 retail companies. >> E or A. Uh, E. 614 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:29,359 » It's always a tough one. >> Okay. This measure impact better. Um, 615 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:33,599 this measure does not impact recreational use. 616 00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:37,920 That's another bullet point. Another bullet point. 617 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:40,920 This measure does not impact medicinal use. 618 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:48,599 Another bullet point. This allows >> Sorry. Yep. 619 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:55,160 Good. This allows existing companies to continue to operate. 620 00:44:57,599 --> 00:45:07,640 New paragraph. What a yes vote does is stop new companies from contributing to 621 00:45:03,839 --> 00:45:07,640 a persistent nuisance 622 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:13,800 affecting a second. Yeah. contributing 623 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:23,160 from contributing to uh new companies from contributing to a persistent 624 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,160 nuisance 625 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,920 affecting long-standing companies 626 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,400 with the noxious 627 00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:43,760 output. You want output or order? 628 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:49,079 » Uh output. >> Yeah. Uh associated with this industry. 629 00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:57,079 The current situation period period 630 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:10,640 current situation is a barrier to new businesses 631 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,640 with well-paying jobs. 632 00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:16,280 from being welcomed into our industrial park 633 00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:22,000 into a professional environment. >> Yeah. 634 00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:27,520 » Environment. >> What else do you want to add? Text that 635 00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:31,359 I've got. >> Okay. 636 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:37,599 » So, it's uh 63-638 3- 36. 637 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:42,000 Sorry. And I agree with you. I think it should 638 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:46,079 be noxious odor output, not noxious output because then they you people 639 00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:51,599 could take that as being the the product that they're um 640 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:57,960 » I guess I have some sort of effect on >> noxious odor output. 641 00:46:54,319 --> 00:46:57,960 Everyone go that 642 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,280 » or the output of noxious odors. >> Noxious odor output. 643 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:09,632 » Yeah. >> Associated with this. And I think that 644 00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:13,440 your second affecting should be eight. [clears throat] 645 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,520 » Think that should be the >> I always get that one. 646 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,640 » Yeah, me too. >> My affection. 647 00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:25,920 » Teacher bet. 648 00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:31,280 » Vote yes. Vote yes. Three. Vote yes on. >> Vote yes on measure three dash on 649 00:47:29,359 --> 00:47:34,560 measure 3-638. 650 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:38,720 After years of complaints, ongoing nuisance reports, and continuing lack of 651 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:42,400 compliance, it is time to take back control of what is happening in our 652 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:46,880 town. This measure does not affect retail companies. This measure does not 653 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:50,960 impact recreational use. This measure does not impact medicinal use. This 654 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,839 allows existing companies to continue to operate 655 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,240 or this measure >> Yeah. 656 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:57,240 » allows. 657 00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:04,400 What a yes vote uh does is stop new companies from contributing to a 658 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:08,160 persistent nuisance affecting long-standing companies with a noxious 659 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:12,240 odor output associated with this industry. The current situation is a 660 00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:15,520 barrier to new businesses with well-paid jobs from being welcomed into a 661 00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:19,839 professional environment in our industrial park. 662 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:25,800 » I think that the vote yes on measure should be its own separate bullet 663 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,800 separate 664 00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:33,400 polish it. 665 00:48:33,839 --> 00:48:39,000 » Our first group paper, right, 666 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,800 » school flashbacks. 667 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:54,599 » There any other key points that we want to Let me see if there's a word work 668 00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:54,599 count on here. 669 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:08,680 words. 112 words. We got room. >> That's it. What? 670 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,359 » Still got to count all all of the names that are being attached. 671 00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:17,760 » Oh, that's right. >> Yeah. 672 00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:21,880 » Yeah. We got um 673 00:49:22,319 --> 00:49:30,079 do we want to do anything specific about like how it's doing that? Like this this 674 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:36,000 measure will um remove 675 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:40,480 marijuana production as an allowed use in our industrial park. Something that 676 00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:44,480 kind of cl because it just says what that doesn't do. It doesn't say what 677 00:49:41,839 --> 00:49:47,599 it's doing. I just want to make sure that the 678 00:49:45,839 --> 00:49:51,200 » all the ballot measure is pretty clear. >> Yeah, that's why I didn't do that. I 679 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:54,800 mean, I thought about >> because when this issue first came up, 680 00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:59,680 the first thing I did is is looked at Denver um because I was one of the first 681 00:49:57,359 --> 00:50:03,280 states that legalized recreational marijuana them in Washington State 682 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:08,640 because I wanted to look and see if it was an issue uh for them, you know, this 683 00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:15,359 particular topic. And it definitely is. they've got some hardcore rules 684 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:20,240 um pertaining to noxious odors regarding this industry. So, this isn't just us 685 00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:26,079 coming up with this. This is an ongoing pro this is a a significant 686 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:32,079 uh real problem seen in communities across across the country. Um 687 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:35,760 you know, if you wanted to to specify Denver or if you wanted to I don't 688 00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:40,480 remember the Washington state ones I looked up, but it's it's legit. It's 689 00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:44,599 totally legit and and those communities really came down hard on it. 690 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:53,040 » If you're going to specify it to this does, 691 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:56,880 then I would move the uh allow existing to go underneath of that 692 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,920 » as one of the higher points. >> That's logic 693 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:07,520 » just in just in order of operation of that. So that it's very very clear in 694 00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:13,440 the positive column that it does allow existing businesses to get to. 695 00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:17,440 » Yeah. I don't think we need to be any more 696 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:20,880 wordy than that than what it is because people just read it quickly and 697 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:25,440 understand you say too much they might start 698 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:28,760 questioning >> too much. 699 00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:32,559 One press 700 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:37,640 I was going with what you just said there. Yeah, you're right. 701 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:51,599 » Yes. Let's hear it again. >> And then I ran it through Google too for 702 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:56,880 the AI mode. It's got a couple different, you know, versions. 703 00:51:54,079 --> 00:52:00,960 » Well, yes. on measure 3-638. After years of complaints, ongoing 704 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:05,040 nuisance reports, and continuing lack of compliance, it is time to take back 705 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:09,280 control if of what is happening in our town. This measure does not affect 706 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:14,000 retail companies. This measure does not impact recreational use. This measure 707 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:18,559 does not impact medicinal use. This measure allows existing companies to 708 00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:23,040 continue to operate. What a what a yes vote does is stop new companies from 709 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:26,720 contributing to a persistent nuisance affecting long-standing companies with 710 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:30,640 the noxious odor output associated with this industry. The current situation is 711 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:34,559 a barrier to new businesses with well-paid jobs from being welcomed into 712 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:39,760 a professional environment in our industrial park. 713 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:44,559 And then that's that's our one. And then this one says, "Vote yes on measure 714 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:48,319 3-638 to protect our community and support responsible local business 715 00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:53,359 growth. After years of unadressed complaints, ongoing nuisance reports and 716 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:58,079 a persistent lack of compliance, it is time for our town to regain control. 717 00:52:55,359 --> 00:53:02,160 Measure 3-638 establishes common sense limits to stop new facilities from 718 00:52:59,839 --> 00:53:06,160 expanding a persistent odor nuisance that negatively impacts long-standing 719 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:09,680 local companies. Our current industrial park environment is a barrier to 720 00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:13,839 attracting new professional industries that offer well-paid jobs. By voting 721 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,240 yes, we pave the way for a professional business environment everyone can be 722 00:53:15,359 --> 00:53:20,160 proud of. >> I like that. 723 00:53:18,319 --> 00:53:24,000 » Yeah, I like the fact that it takes out the complaint. I just seems 724 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,880 » The thing I don't like about that, I mean, it's it sounds great. So, 725 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:32,240 » keep going. Sorry. In part, >> what what I apologize. What measure 726 00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:36,319 3-638 does not do, affect retail companies or current commercial 727 00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:41,200 storefronts, impact recreational use or personal consumer rights, impact 728 00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:45,680 medicinal use or access for patients, force closures as existing companies are 729 00:53:43,359 --> 00:53:49,440 permitted to continue operating. What a yes vote does. A yes vote simply 730 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:53,200 prevents new facilities from adding to the existing odor issue, ensuring our 731 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:58,400 town remains welcoming to diverse economic growth. Vote yes on measure 732 00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:02,880 3-638. I would take out the >> the only thing I have uh with that one 733 00:54:00,319 --> 00:54:07,119 because it does sound good is uh out of they're out of compliance. 734 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,920 » Is that industry over there out of compliance right now? 735 00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:13,520 » Some of them. So >> So okay, as long as we have a basis of 736 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,640 that then I'm >> Yeah. 737 00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:19,760 » Yeah. With that said, 738 00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:25,040 » where it says >> existing companies, businesses continue 739 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:30,240 to operate >> as existing. 740 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:35,119 » Yes. So if in compliance if they remain within compliance because then it also 741 00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:38,000 gives the Yeah, like that. >> I like that one more better. 742 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,599 » The polished one. >> Yeah. Yeah. 743 00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:45,040 » Okay. >> Let me get this. Um, 744 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:50,079 it's got the bullets and everything on there. I don't know how to do this. 745 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:53,920 » What is that word count on the >> um 746 00:54:51,359 --> 00:54:59,440 » Oh. Um, what is the word? No sign now but still 747 00:54:56,720 --> 00:55:02,440 it's option >> one 748 00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:15,720 copy it and then bring it into 749 00:55:20,319 --> 00:55:26,319 trying to do it with my without a mouse. 750 00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:30,680 Yes. >> Thank you. 751 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:38,720 » You're always helping me, Jerry. >> I don't care what Jonathan says about 752 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:42,040 you. You're probably [laughter] >> Oh, man. 753 00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:53,880 » Just getting started, too. I more months of this, guys. Oh. 754 00:55:54,319 --> 00:55:59,400 It doesn't scroll up. Maybe I'm a special way. 755 00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:07,760 » I'm sure. You want to help me here? Is there a 756 00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:11,978 reason it's not? >> Okay, I'm just going to copy it all and 757 00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:17,520 then delete out what I do. [clears throat] 758 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:23,920 » I went TDDY up there a lot. Save that. So, we have the original 759 00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:27,040 and I was in 70° temperature. Trying to get an airplane airborne. 760 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:30,520 » That's cold. >> That is cold. 761 00:56:32,319 --> 00:56:35,880 » It's up there working. 762 00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:52,000 They got those headbolt outlets. >> Yeah, but you can't trust the network. 763 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:56,640 » I'm taking out the word diverse and just putting robot robust economic growth. 764 00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:59,880 » You guys want to hear it one more time? Are we finalized? 765 00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:13,680 163 words. >> Wow. 766 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:19,240 » Perfect. Plenty of room for signature. Space that 767 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,240 out. 768 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:29,319 » Little white space formatting here. >> Well, they have a particular layout too 769 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,319 that they'll 770 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,480 » show. 771 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,440 Question is how long? 772 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:46,880 We have the ability to print this. Do we have to sign this? 773 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:50,720 » We don't sign it. >> No, we just have to submit it. 774 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:53,040 » Yeah, it goes on a form. There's a particular form. 775 00:57:51,839 --> 00:57:56,240 » All right, I'm going to read it one last time and then I won't change and make 776 00:57:54,400 --> 00:58:00,960 any changes after that and then I'll just we'll add people's names to it. 777 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:05,440 Anyone that wants to be on it. Vote yes on measure 3-638 to protect our 778 00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:09,200 community and support responsible local business growth. After years of 779 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:12,799 unadressed complaints, ongoing nuisance reports, and a persistent lack of 780 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:17,520 compliance, it is time for our town to regain control. Measure 3-638 781 00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:21,440 establishes common sense limits to stop new facilities from expanding a 782 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:25,520 persistent odor nuisance that negatively impacts long-standing local companies. 783 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:28,960 Our current industrial park environment is a barrier to attracting new 784 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:32,880 professional industries that offer well-paid jobs. By voting yes, we pave 785 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:37,200 the way for a professional business environment everyone can be proud of. 786 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:42,000 What measure 3-638 does not do, affect retail companies or 787 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:45,905 current commercial storefronts, impact recreational use or personal consumer 788 00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:50,000 rights, impact medicinal use [clears throat] or access for patients, 789 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:55,119 force closures as existing companies are permitted to continue operating. What a 790 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:59,520 yes vote does. A yes vote simply prevents new facilities from adding to 791 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:04,319 the existing odor issue, ensuring our town remains welcoming to robust 792 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:07,319 economic growth. Vote yes on measure 3-638. 793 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:12,599 » It say 794 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:25,960 I'm going to email this everyone real quick. 795 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,960 group. 796 00:59:37,359 --> 00:59:44,960 Here is the agreed statement. 797 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:48,000 We're are we okay to do that? Um >> I think you are since you're 798 00:59:47,359 --> 00:59:51,359 » all together. >> Yeah. Just don't nobody respond. Don't 799 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:55,520 discuss it anymore. We're all you're discussing it here. Community can hear 800 00:59:53,839 --> 01:00:01,880 that. >> What you just read should be what they 801 00:59:57,119 --> 01:00:01,880 see when it comes out the 802 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:19,280 » D. Perfect. Thank you. Yeah, you did a 803 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:22,160 great job. Copy too. 804 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:27,040 » Right. >> All right. 805 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:31,200 » Moving along. We are at mayor and council reports and comments. I know I 806 01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:34,400 don't think any of you have had groups since we talked the other day, so I'm 807 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:39,359 not going to ask you for a report on that. You want to make a couple comments 808 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:45,280 uh before we go? Uh I guess the only comments I've got to say is I really uh 809 01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:54,079 am noticing that the city staff is doing a phenomenal job. Uh and they show that 810 01:00:49,520 --> 01:01:00,079 they can be trusted. Uh also uh I am just glad that we got this measure 811 01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:06,440 argument done and that uh we can proceed as as a city council together with this. 812 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,440 So, 813 01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:15,200 » so I had one comment um and that is uh the last meeting we had the the code 814 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:19,040 changes uh state laws and and all that stuff. We had that discussion. I think 815 01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:24,480 that was the last meeting and I had a question 816 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:32,640 um for Melanie and Allen regarding the uh uh subdivision proposal that was up 817 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:37,680 the hill on fourth and the original uh plans had been approved. Uh but then the 818 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:43,119 the developer came back and wanted to increase the number of homes and so we 819 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:49,520 had a very long discussion uh regarding um basically the safety uh from a slide 820 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:54,160 standpoint and that sort of thing. Uh very long discussion, very robust 821 01:01:51,359 --> 01:02:00,079 discussion and I as I recall we did approve that uh with uh conditions 822 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:05,599 meaning additional um test holes or something like that. Um, and so my 823 01:02:02,799 --> 01:02:12,000 question to Melanie and to Allan was, um, if that scenario came again, would 824 01:02:08,799 --> 01:02:16,799 we actually cease that or would it be approved by staff and had not come to 825 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:21,599 um, and correct my wording if I'm I'm wording this wrong, but the answer is 826 01:02:18,799 --> 01:02:27,119 no. Um, we wouldn't see it with the way the code with the way the state law is 827 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:34,880 now um, and the way the codes are now. uh that that scenario would not um 828 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:38,960 likely um come back to us. Um, and I just thought because I distinctly 829 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:44,400 remember the comment from the person in in the audience that mentioned one that 830 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:51,760 he'd never seen a discussion like that before from the city council and two how 831 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:55,520 a uh subdivision I think across the street or very close to that location 832 01:02:53,440 --> 01:03:02,559 that we were talking about had had a slide not long um after it had been 833 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:09,200 approved. And so I think that's a uh uh an illustration of what you're missing 834 01:03:05,359 --> 01:03:14,160 uh when you uh exclude city council from from dealing with local matters. Um so 835 01:03:12,079 --> 01:03:18,720 that's my comment with that. Otherwise, thank you very much for um getting 836 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:23,920 everything put together uh in such a quick manner. Uh thank you very much for 837 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:31,200 the discussion um everyone's point of views and we uh we came to a an 838 01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:37,359 excellent consensus I think and um thank you all who whoever were watching um and 839 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:42,160 that's it. Thank you. >> Thank you. 840 01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:47,760 » Yeah, thank you again. Yes, thank you to city staff and um always being prompt 841 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:50,640 with uh even over the weekend sometimes we come up with questions and answer 842 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:56,240 them on your days off. Thank you. I appreciate that. That goes often 843 01:03:53,920 --> 01:04:02,160 not spoken about. Um and I appreciate that because timing is of the essence. 844 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:08,480 And with that said, um I looked back on a handful of our committee's uh meetings 845 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:13,920 this last week or so and I want to say thank you to chief um and the safety 846 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:19,280 committee um and traffic committee. There was a lot of information that you 847 01:04:15,839 --> 01:04:25,119 had divulged and I want to ask people at home who are watching or Tom [laughter] 848 01:04:23,359 --> 01:04:31,599 here in the audience um it's worth watching. Um sometimes watching those 849 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:36,400 videos makes it very um uh clear on what we might be missing and 850 01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:40,960 where we need to fill in the gaps as far as lifting each other up and being there 851 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:44,960 for one another in um the committees outside of our right here. And that 852 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:49,760 being said, I noticed that the economic and development team, I call them team 853 01:04:47,359 --> 01:04:55,119 because they are um they were discussing whether or not they should dismantle and 854 01:04:52,559 --> 01:05:00,960 I was like, "No, please don't do that." Because if anything, if you guys have 855 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:05,440 noticed that the state itself didn't really even have that department put 856 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:08,000 together until like this year, they decided that they were actually going to 857 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:12,400 have that. And I thought that was very strange that we didn't have one for the 858 01:05:10,799 --> 01:05:17,599 state. and I found that out through the LOC. Um, but yeah, I would just like to 859 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:22,240 reach out to them and say thank you. Keep it up. Don't don't we have a lot 860 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:26,559 more development to go. So, I think having them is very vital. And I'd like 861 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:32,000 to see that we have maybe some more joint sessions 862 01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:35,920 um more often, especially when they have a shift in how many people they have on 863 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:40,480 their committee. So, but yeah, 864 01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:44,720 » I just want to thank everyone for being available on short notice um for coming 865 01:05:43,359 --> 01:05:50,160 in for the meeting. I think that was a good meeting. Um and I just wanted to, 866 01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:54,480 you know, I I too see hear about and see some of the stuff that's going online 867 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:58,319 about people have a lot of input. It was really unfortunate that, you know, with 868 01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:01,359 all the people with there a lot of people with a lot of great ideas. I 869 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:06,400 would like to have seen more people get involved in the city council elections 870 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:13,119 as it is right now. We were lucky to fill the three spots that are that are 871 01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:17,039 up for um a vote. Um so I just wish that some of those people that have the 872 01:06:14,319 --> 01:06:20,720 solutions and ideas would be willing to invest the time to participate in the 873 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:26,079 process rather than just complaining about it online. Take the time out of 874 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:30,400 your day. Um make the sacrifice. make the sacrifice to have your name blasted 875 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:34,880 on Facebook and and people talk bad about you all over town. Um, and then 876 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:38,000 come and step up and and fill the role. Don't just spend all your time 877 01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:42,319 complaining online, but come up with some solutions and sacrifice a little 878 01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:45,440 bit of your time to uh be part of the solution that you want to see happen in 879 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:50,480 the city. And if you're not willing to do that, then maybe spend a little less 880 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:56,640 time criticizing people. >> Well said. Um it's pretty evident at 881 01:06:54,480 --> 01:07:02,480 this point that um I'm not running again for council. Um this 882 01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:07,760 it was a long decision a decision that took a long time to make. Um but I have 883 01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:12,640 to do what's best for me, my health, and my family. Um this is my eighth year on 884 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:18,240 council and the last couple of years have been really good. So I appreciate 885 01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:23,200 that. Um I I always appreciate our city staff and the work that they put in. You 886 01:07:19,839 --> 01:07:29,920 guys are amazing. Um but yeah, um I'm I'm a little 887 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:34,480 disappointed in the um the turnout of potential council people, you know, to 888 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:38,640 be put in the to run for this office. I'm a little disappointed in the in the 889 01:07:36,319 --> 01:07:43,839 turnout, but I am glad that we at least have enough people to fill all the 890 01:07:40,799 --> 01:07:50,160 seats. Um and look forward to an exciting mayoral race. 891 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:54,319 So, um, thank you all for your time and and everything. And I'm not going to be, 892 01:07:52,319 --> 01:07:58,160 uh, have short- timerrs disease. I'm going to be in it all the way through. 893 01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:02,480 And hopefully, you know, in a year, if you guys see my name on an application 894 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:11,319 for a city committee or commission, you don't hold my time up here against me. 895 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:11,319 But appreciate you all for your time. 896 01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:19,920 » I apologize for having to leave. I sneezed and it made my stomach cramp and 897 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:23,279 it was bad. I wasn't sure what was going to happen with that. So, I apologize for 898 01:08:21,679 --> 01:08:26,719 walking out, but thanks for your work on that. I thought the ballot measure 899 01:08:24,719 --> 01:08:30,560 turned out really well and it was really cool to watch uh this team collaborate, 900 01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:34,560 I thought, too, and just go back and forth and see each of your guys' 901 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:38,159 creative plays. It's easy to be somebody that's always got something to say or 902 01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:42,000 have an opinion, but it's really cool to see other people come to life and 903 01:08:40,480 --> 01:08:46,640 express their opinions and share their standpoint. So, I appreciate each of you 904 01:08:43,839 --> 01:08:50,640 guys for working through that uh as we try to get this right and be very 905 01:08:48,719 --> 01:08:55,839 specific in who we are impacting and what our desired intent with this 906 01:08:52,799 --> 01:08:59,759 measure is versus speculation. So, I thought that was cool. And then I'm 907 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:03,600 going to harp on the example thing again. I'm going to stand on this. I'm 908 01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:07,920 not over the data that we got. I thought that was absolutely atrocious to hear 909 01:09:05,679 --> 01:09:11,839 that sixth graders are participating. And to me, I just look in the mirror. 910 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:15,520 That's just where I start. And I think it's our example. It's what we're seeing 911 01:09:13,759 --> 01:09:19,120 at home. It's what we're doing when we're walking around, where our head is, 912 01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:23,440 what we're consuming and watching. It's all these little things adding up. So, 913 01:09:21,679 --> 01:09:29,600 I'm just going to encourage people now more than ever to live and be the change 914 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:34,880 or the example that you want to see in the world. Like, sincerely, 915 01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:39,040 the data shows that they're watching. It matters. What you do matters for a 916 01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:42,799 career. Everything you do, your story, everything you are, it matters now more 917 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:46,400 than everything. And I want that to be very important to this community, 918 01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:50,960 unrelated to any race. It's more important right now than ever that as an 919 01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:54,239 individual, you express your right to vote. You express your right to 920 01:09:52,480 --> 01:09:58,960 communicate what you dislike, what you do like, and just to be present, be 921 01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:02,960 active, be engaged, and take accountability for yourself and those 922 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:07,920 around you and this community because it's worth fighting for. It really is. 923 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:11,360 So are the people around you. So that's what I want to say about that. And then 924 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:15,280 thank you to the staff for your hard work. And Chief Tenway, I want to say 925 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:19,120 thank you to you. I heard multiple people I want to just say this. I heard 926 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:23,600 multiple people tell me that they heard from you directly about this fire and 927 01:10:21,679 --> 01:10:27,600 this situation that you've been overly involved and super communicative. 928 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:32,480 Keeping Melanie in the loop. Melanie, you responded with the fires. They got 929 01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:36,320 started really fast and notification. It's super important to me that we point 930 01:10:34,159 --> 01:10:40,880 out the things, especially my standpoint. I'm always harping on what's 931 01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:43,920 not happening. Thank you for addressing that and making sure that that was 932 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:48,400 something that was communicated. I know that I got a text message. I'm sure all 933 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:52,480 of you did as well. So, I like to see the improvements that this team has made 934 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:58,159 and this has been under your leadership. Make no doubt about that. There's no 935 01:10:54,080 --> 01:11:01,679 mistake there. and my uh my campaign has not from a disrespectful place and I 936 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:05,040 embrace you and say that I appreciate everything you've done for this 937 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:08,239 community and that's my stance and you won't see anything else come from me on 938 01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:12,560 that front. >> Okay. 939 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:17,440 Well, they've all said great things. Um these are good counselors. They've done 940 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:21,440 great jobs. I'll miss you, Jerry. I don't have anybody to spar with now. 941 01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:25,760 You're gone. Um >> still got a few months with 942 01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:29,440 » That's right. That's right. But uh no, you you've all done great things. Staff 943 01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:34,640 has done wonderful things. Chief, you've been wonderful. I see you all over the 944 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:38,320 place. And he's right. The community is, you know, reaching out in leaps and 945 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:43,199 bounds to tell me how wonderful you are. That's a good sign. Um 946 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:48,239 but that said, I'm also sorry for being late tonight. I forgot five o'clock 947 01:11:45,440 --> 01:11:52,960 instead of six o'clock. Um but I want to thank the press for stepping in and 948 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:59,640 making it happen. Did a great job. And that said, I'm going to adjourn this 949 01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:59,640 meeting. Your adjourn