1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,259 He's a good guy. >> [clears throat] 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:18,200 » Okay, I'm calling this meeting of the Town Council for the Town of Micanopy to 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:24,840 order. It is 7:00 p.m. on August the 10th. 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,840 And we will do the Pledge of Allegiance. 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:35,160 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America 6 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:42,400 and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with 7 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,400 liberty and justice for all. 8 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:55,120 » Okay. Roll call. Absent is Scott Davis. 9 00:00:52,200 --> 00:01:01,920 Present is Jim Monroe, Victoria Hayes, and Michael O'Neal, and myself, 10 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,920 Sonya Richardson, and Teresa 11 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:13,240 Next item on the agenda is public comment on agenda items. 12 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:16,320 Anybody in the room have public comment on agenda items? 13 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:25,880 Okay. Moving on. Minutes of previous council meeting. 14 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:28,520 Decision. So, we need to vote. >> I'll make a motion to accept them as 15 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,600 written. >> Good for you. 16 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,720 » I'll second. >> That's [clears throat] Michael O'Neal 17 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,880 seconding. And your vote, Jim? 18 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,760 » Yeah, yes. >> Agreed. I. 19 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:49,000 » Okay, next moving on. Pay [clears throat] monthly bills. Decision 20 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:52,560 and we need a vote. >> I'll make a motion to pay the bills. 21 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:56,720 » Michael O'Neal. >> I'll second. 22 00:01:54,000 --> 00:02:00,520 » Jim Monroe seconds. And your vote, Vic? >> I vote I. Agreed. 23 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,520 » Agreed. 24 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:13,520 » Okay. With regard to reports, time cards, with the transfer finance 25 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,520 committee, any questions on the report? 26 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,200 No? 27 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:25,400 Yeah. Moving on to old business. 28 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,560 Sewer connection for the US Forest Service update. 29 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,320 » Me? >> Yes. 30 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,360 » Does it say HDR? >> It doesn't. 31 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,360 » Um I've reached out to Mark Foster a couple times on this and I haven't heard 32 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:41,160 back from him. Um we actually have a meeting at a separate 33 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:45,959 meeting in Rexford tomorrow that he's supposed to attend. So, I'll try to 34 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:49,560 corner him there and get some answers. >> I do know [clears throat] he's got it in 35 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:53,760 the in the budget. Each city was putting it in. This was I 36 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,600 was talking to him last year. >> Okay. 37 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:59,040 » And they were putting in their budget together at the time, so they were 38 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,320 looking to connect. Hopefully if they get, you know, 39 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:06,480 approved then they'll go ahead. 40 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:10,040 » I second that. 41 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,440 All right. You need a second minute to not second. 42 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,600 » Yeah, but they didn't ask. >> the next item is the sewer Well, we have 43 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,760 we have to do it in stages otherwise the recent update. 44 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,280 » I should have kept up with the meeting right now. 45 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,040 Um >> Okay, sewer mains the HDR update for the 46 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:27,519 sewer main. >> Yeah. So, uh this is our big project for 47 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:33,200 the town right now. Um we just got our geotech and survey 48 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:37,920 completed last week. Um so, those results um will take a 49 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:41,440 couple weeks to come in. Um and then we will get those to our 50 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:47,120 design team and we will start uh designing our replacement force main. 51 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,120 Um 52 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:52,960 I was out there with them when they were doing the core drilling. I don't think 53 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:57,600 there's anything too terribly unknown that we didn't 54 00:03:54,800 --> 00:04:01,240 foresee with it. Um there are some spots where they barely had enough cover on it 55 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:05,720 to begin with cuz they're they put it into rock um pretty much the entire way. 56 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:09,280 They either had to blast or rip it open, so um there'll be a couple sections 57 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,840 that'll be a little tough 58 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:17,120 um to get down or that we just have to excavate a little bit more, but nothing 59 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:22,520 too serious as of right now. Um the crossing at the north end of the 60 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:26,640 trunk um thankfully we're not in bedrock, which 61 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:30,600 is great. Um we didn't even hit rock corn down deeper than they did in the 62 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:35,760 ones in the railroad right-of-way, so that's all positive. And then um we're 63 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:40,560 working with Kevin and his crew to do our last little bit of inspection, uh 64 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:44,640 which is going to be right uh here crossing the tobacco from the lift 65 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:48,520 station, so we're going to TV that section of pipe. Um 66 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:52,160 our hope is that the integrity of that pipe is still really good, so we don't 67 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,880 have to do a new crossing there. >> Mhm. 68 00:04:52,919 --> 00:05:00,560 » Um and that we would just basically reline that section of pipe um 69 00:04:58,280 --> 00:05:05,320 and uh with a CIPP. And then we would replace everything 70 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:10,360 from after that, so um we'll be working out there the next week or two um to get 71 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:14,520 that inspected, and then uh we'll have hopefully all of our information uh for 72 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,320 existing conditions, and then we'll be off to races on on design. 73 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,840 » Thank you. >> You bet. 74 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:25,040 » Okay. Moving on, 75 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:31,280 uh Zach as well for the sewer aeration pond, the HDR update for that. 76 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:35,280 » Yep, so um kudos to public works staff. Um we got the aeration pond back up and 77 00:05:33,919 --> 00:05:40,200 working. Uh the pumps have been serviced. There's new valves up there. 78 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:44,960 Um there's a new intake screen um for the actual transfer pumps that push from 79 00:05:42,919 --> 00:05:49,440 the aeration pond up to the higher ponds for further the 80 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:54,560 Um we got a good This whole process was a good learning curve, I think, for for 81 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:58,840 everybody here in the town. Um, we found that, you know, existing 82 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:03,000 as-built drawings were inaccurate. There was different infrastructure in that 83 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:07,560 pond than we thought there was. Um, so even though this wasn't an ideal 84 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:11,920 situation, um, for the town, it allowed us to to find 85 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:16,360 out a bunch of new things about our treatment plant up there, um, which I 86 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:20,240 think is positive. So, we take it as a learning experience. We've upgraded some 87 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:23,800 things up there, and we should be good for 88 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:27,960 I'm hoping the next couple years until we can actually get to 89 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:32,040 removing all the solid down in that pond and redo some 90 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:35,880 some intricacies of how it works up there as well for for better treatment 91 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,560 for the future, so. >> Okay. 92 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:43,000 » Thanks, Zach. Um, the next one, also Zach, is the 93 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:48,080 water PER, the preliminary engineering report for grants. 94 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:52,280 » Yep. So, we plan on, um, starting on the water PER in January. Um, so we have 95 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,520 that scope and fee drafted and everything. We're just waiting to 96 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:59,880 execute that. Um, we have our second grant that we're 97 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:02,800 going after for the funding of this PER. Um, it's going to be one that you guys 98 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,600 have gotten in the past for the wastewater one. 99 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:11,919 Uh, this is through DNR C. It's a renewable resources, uh, planning grant. 100 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:17,919 So, this one's for $40,000. Um, we previously submitted a CDBG for 101 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:20,800 50. Um, so we will be, um, 102 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:24,760 hopefully turning in that application tomorrow. 103 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:29,600 » Excellent. Thank you. Um, moving on, the Government Review 104 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:34,919 Study Commission update. We have no update. And I think we're coming up to 105 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,919 the deadline soon. 106 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:41,600 Moving on to new business. Transportation Road Assessment Report, 107 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,560 Zach. This is a good one. 108 00:07:43,090 --> 00:07:50,640 » [laughter] >> Yeah, so a couple weeks ago 109 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:54,880 HDR, the town, Mr. Durham with the county, 110 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:59,280 and public works staff, we all sat down and um 111 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:04,360 did a quick inventory of some of the [clears throat] worst 112 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:08,360 roads within the town, and specifically focused in on the TIFF 113 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:12,880 district. Um as we have some funds that need to be 114 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:18,919 expended or at least allocated by the end of this year for projects. So our 115 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:22,560 goal was to inventory town with a focus on the TIFF district. Um but we did 116 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:27,960 expand that. Um I came back up earlier last week and 117 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:32,919 kind of expanded just doing a whole town-wide assessment of all the roads. 118 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:38,080 And so we're writing that up right now. Um plan is to put together a 119 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:42,599 comprehensive document that can help guide the town in the future as far as 120 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:47,280 priorities for future larger reconstructions, and will help us aid in 121 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:51,360 getting more grant money. So we'll be finalizing that, and then 122 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,560 that will also help us put together a bid package 123 00:08:52,839 --> 00:08:59,440 for the next month to 6 weeks is kind of when we're 124 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:04,360 targeting to where we can pick off we're hoping probably around four 125 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:09,280 different projects around town that will will hopefully get done this fall. 126 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:11,560 » That's exciting to me. Mary. 127 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:15,680 » And then we've allocated or we've identified two 128 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:20,800 major projects that came from our survey list that we 129 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:23,839 will go after for a larger, it's called a build grant. 130 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:27,320 Um it used to be called raise, it used to 131 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:31,480 be called something else. Like they just keep renaming it, but effectively it's 132 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:36,640 one of the largest transportation grants that you can get in the state. 133 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:41,480 I think I'll have to double check, but I think the town we qualified for to 134 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:46,160 dollars for that one. So, it's a good chunk of money. 135 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:50,240 Um and I think most likely we would go after Central 136 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:53,120 for that one to start. That's kind of our thought there. That 137 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,920 will ultimately be up to the >> Thank you, Emmy. 138 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:59,600 » Yes. >> Excellent. Thank you for that. 139 00:09:59,986 --> 00:10:08,320 » [snorts] >> Moving on to the next item on the agenda 140 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:12,280 is resolution number 2026-823, which is for the annual tax levy, and we 141 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:15,560 actually won't be doing that on this evening only because there's been a 142 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:18,960 change in formula on the mill levy determination schedule. So, we don't 143 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:23,240 have enough numbers right now in our budget to be able to do that and they 144 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:26,600 changed the algorithm and Teresa will be getting training on it tomorrow. 145 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:32,880 So, we will do we will cover that resolution 146 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,880 in the special meeting on the 24th. 147 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:41,960 Moving on to resolution number 2026-824, which is the intent to increase water 148 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:46,280 rates. And we need to vote on that. 149 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,440 » I have a comment on that. >> Sure. 150 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:53,400 » Um it was my understanding that when we were going over these things, we were 151 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:57,400 raising the water rates um to what we needed. 152 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:00,200 Okay. And then it looks like in the resolution 153 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:04,320 we're also going to implement some commercial rates and so forth and so 154 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:06,800 forth. Is that Is that the way that it reads? 155 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,680 » Um let's see what let's see uh uh uh 156 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:15,480 » Yes, that is how it reads currently. >> That's what we're planning. 157 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:20,200 Well, we're We're planning on discussing. I'd say, you know, these are 158 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:25,320 resolutions of intent so that they can give people an idea of 159 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:30,600 what will be going on under the discussion in the public meetings. 160 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:33,560 Um and also a better idea of what we've been discussing in the work sessions 161 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:39,320 here. I want to hear about that and come in. 162 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:42,920 So, whether or not you pick up um 163 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:46,920 any of this these changes, this is just 164 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:50,920 the intent document that gets published in the paper and says, "This is what 165 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:54,560 we're thinking about doing with the rates." So, you got to come to the 166 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:59,000 public meetings and and talk with us and see what's going 167 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:02,480 on. So, if there's something in there that you don't want, then you just don't 168 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,400 adopt it in the in the ordinance. Okay. 169 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,560 » And that was my biggest concern. It looks to me like we're going to be 170 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:13,080 raising the rates. And then also, on top of that, 171 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:17,520 raising the rates for all the commercial folks, and we haven't even really talked 172 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,080 too much about that. And so, 173 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,280 that's kind of where I was kind of confused on that. 174 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:26,840 » Yeah. No, no, but that's why it's in there. 175 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:32,880 It's so that's get discussed. Um Eureka has not had a commercial rate 176 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:36,320 um in in 177 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:39,808 you know, we had talked about some of the breakdowns and things that had been 178 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,800 suggested, but >> [snorts] 179 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:46,200 » you know, that was why we just dropped back to the 180 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:50,480 to the the number to the four categories again. 181 00:12:48,839 --> 00:12:53,000 » I just wanted to be clear cuz I think there'll be some questions, you know, if 182 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,560 we're raising the rates to where they need to be, 183 00:12:54,440 --> 00:13:00,240 but then it's going to be more for these other groups of people, you know, I 184 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:03,440 think that's kind of I was going wanting to avoid that, you know. 185 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,200 Um because well, if we're already getting what we 186 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:09,000 need, what are we getting more for? 187 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,200 » So, I think >> Well, and that is the question and you 188 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:15,040 know, that's part of the question, too. Are we 189 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:19,800 getting the rates where they where they need to be? 190 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:25,960 Um the base rates that I gave you in the work sessions, that was strictly based 191 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:31,680 on the cost of living increase index from the federal indexes. 192 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:35,560 So, we still need to take our own in in our bonds 193 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:39,840 and those and and run them through the rate calculator 194 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:43,400 on there and make sure, you know, we do or that the that that's where you want 195 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:47,360 to go with them. On there, if you do want to want to 196 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:51,360 separate um 197 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:58,200 and and have a separate set of rates, some some towns do, some towns don't. 198 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:04,240 Almost all of the major areas do on there. They're mainly um 199 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:09,000 it's for like, you know, really what you're looking to pick up is the car 200 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:12,080 washes, the heavy water consumers, um stuff like that. 201 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:17,160 » And then also just um at the work session you'd said $120, 202 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:21,400 remember? When we had worked with with the numbers and you you voted, not 203 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:25,360 voted, but you had recommended we go for that. I think if you look at this, it's 204 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,680 not even at that amount. What has been >> Right. And that's what I 205 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:31,400 » Yeah. Not to start with. >> The the 120 was a reference that the 206 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:35,480 state was giving us. And if they would have said 115, I would 207 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:39,160 have said 115. I didn't want I don't choose 120. I was just referencing what 208 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,480 they had said we needed. >> Suggestion, yeah. And but it has been 209 00:14:40,839 --> 00:14:46,200 reduced even from that. So, I think it's at 107 possibly. 210 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,280 » And that's what they what they put in the numbers and they they spits out what 211 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:54,480 we need, right? That's that's great. I'm all for that. 212 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:57,000 I'm not necessarily for all the 213 00:14:55,240 --> 00:15:01,160 all the extras right at this moment with the with the 214 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:04,560 rate increase and then the next 3 years a rate increase. 215 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:07,000 But on top of that, we're already we're just going to go ahead and ding all 216 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:11,360 these other people, too. >> Well, I just wanted to quickly if yeah, 217 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,839 it's it's not really dinging them because it's 218 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,480 » you get what you need >> Yeah, but you're getting what you need 219 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,600 from the single family homeowner and >> From all the people that are getting 220 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:23,000 water, you're getting what you need. That's where Where do come from. 221 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:27,960 » Correct. However, if you are if you raise your rates and 222 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:32,200 you are only you're raising your rates and you have to because of our DEQ 223 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,080 concentrically and there's a whole lot of all this other stuff that goes into 224 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:41,080 play. If you take that into consideration and you raise the rates, 225 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:46,840 people that currently have apartment buildings, car washes, 226 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:50,560 they are still using one water and sewer line. That's not fair. 227 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,640 Where the single family homeowner is going to have to carry the burden 228 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:57,880 whereas both people are getting a break and that's not that's why 229 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:03,120 for me the commercial rate increase was important just because it would simplify 230 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:06,600 what the actual usage is in terms of size and I think that's what 231 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,960 we discussed at the 232 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:12,760 » Yeah. So, I think I think maybe a another way 233 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:19,600 to look at the commercial rates is to look at it similar to like how we 234 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:25,240 implement the the EDU multiplier. So, based on your meter size, you have 235 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:29,000 a bigger impact on the overall system. It's the very similar with a business. 236 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,720 » Yeah, that's right. Yeah, if you have a 1-in it's going to be 237 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:36,440 7.29. [clears throat] Yeah, I get that. It's all right here. 238 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:40,480 » Right. So, yeah. So, I guess like the last thing that we like at the work 239 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:43,640 session we didn't have included was just the definition 240 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:48,880 of what that would apply to which we've included in here as well. 241 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:54,320 Um so, yeah. Obviously, it's all you guys in in your discretion, but you 242 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:59,200 know, if if the point is to make sure that every resident of the 243 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:02,680 town is equally contributing on a rate basis 244 00:17:00,839 --> 00:17:06,360 to maintaining the infrastructure in the town, 245 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:09,439 eventually you will need to get to some commercial rate. 246 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,920 Because the businesses are having a a good 247 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:15,000 » So, back to my point is, you know, we're all you know, I think we're implementing 248 00:17:13,319 --> 00:17:17,959 two different things here all at once and we haven't really had any 249 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,600 discussion about it. >> But if I if I'm understanding correctly, 250 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,480 we're not committing to this. All we're saying is we're we're going to increase 251 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:28,040 the rates. This is about where we're going to be 252 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,880 and in our future work sessions, which we can make public, then we can talk 253 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,760 about it. >> Right. 254 00:17:31,942 --> 00:17:35,920 » [clears throat] >> We were here we've you know, obviously 255 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,360 Cliff and I have been part of all the work sessions and the meetings with you 256 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,880 guys. We basically just taking everything that 257 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:47,240 we've discussed, that's been on the table, put it in this intent so that it 258 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:52,280 can be an open forum for discussion and for for the final determination in 6 259 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,280 weeks. 260 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:58,640 » Well, I disagree. And I think we talked about commercial rates quite a bit in 261 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,920 our work session. >> Well, we did. Yeah, we did talk about 262 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,680 how we want you know, we want them, we need them, things about nature. But 263 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:10,320 there really isn't we don't know what is commercial, for example. Speaking of 264 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,720 those Airbnbs, just for example, we haven't 265 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,760 determined whether or not they are, you know. 266 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,200 » Mhm. >> Um 267 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:22,360 No, and that's on an actually on my list to provide you 268 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,997 during these sessions is some of the definitions that I see. 269 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,800 But I mean >> [clears throat] 270 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:33,080 » most of the time the definitions are in his guidebooks. 271 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,200 On there, just for lack of a better way of putting it. 272 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:39,560 » Mhm. >> We we use the engineers as the resource 273 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:44,080 on that so we can figure out you know, what is that differential in in use. 274 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:50,120 » Right. >> Not just in gallons, but in the impacts 275 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:55,880 on the system. And that would be where I would look to find if you were going to 276 00:18:52,760 --> 00:19:01,240 engage a different a different rate. And it may be that Eureka's still at that 277 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:05,240 point that it doesn't need the separate separate rates. 278 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:11,800 » So, I think just to clarify, it's not we're not voting on doing that. It's 279 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:15,160 just an going to to do that. Because they'll do the final vote I think in 6 280 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:19,680 weeks. >> Yep. The The main point of this is to 281 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:23,480 give the public notice that we're going to be on water rates to make some 282 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:27,000 improvements to the system and here's our ideas for now. 283 00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:33,000 » And bearing in mind the ideas are all based on 284 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:37,760 the fact that they haven't been raised in 87 and 8 years 285 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,600 and that we haven't kept up for the last almost decade. 286 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,720 » Yep. >> And so now we're in a position where we 287 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:47,520 don't have a choice because now we have to rehabilitate our water and these are 288 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:52,600 sewer systems for instance. And in order to qualify because we under 289 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:55,600 a DQ consent decree, we don't meet the standard for federal funding for the 290 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:59,280 grants. So we don't have a choice. If we want to 291 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,920 it's going to cost us millions to do this. 292 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:05,200 And so we have to get the money from somewhere and in order to do that we 293 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:09,360 have to meet that criteria. >> Right. Yep. Your eligibility is based 294 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:13,960 off of your rates. How much funding you'll be eligible for. So if your rates 295 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:17,760 are not in an acceptable position, you will qualify for less 296 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:21,720 grant money. >> So that's part of the other information. 297 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:25,680 » what That's That's how we came up with these base rates for all the things that 298 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,920 are right now. The The water and sewer, that's how we came up with those rates. 299 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,000 » Yes. >> Charging that amount of money we 300 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:35,560 qualify. >> Yes, because so yeah, with the target 301 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:40,320 rate what I was just outlining with the Horseman project in particular, 302 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:44,560 those grants you guys have to be at a certain target rate percentage by the 303 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:47,840 end of construction. So that's what like how we've outlined it on here is that 304 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:52,920 you would hit that target rate by the end of 305 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,920 construction. 306 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:05,160 » Any other questions? >> No, but I move that we 307 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:08,160 the council consider resolution 2026-824 308 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:13,080 for the potential increase in water rates. 309 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:17,240 » Okay. >> I'll second. 310 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,840 » Jim second and Victoria and Jim second. >> I agree. 311 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,880 » And Michael agrees. 312 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:31,920 And then moving on to the next item on the agenda, which is resolution number 313 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,920 2026-825, 314 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:36,960 which would be the intent to increase sewer rates. And we need a vote for 315 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,400 that. >> I'll make 316 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,920 I'll make a motion to accept the resolution. 317 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:47,120 » I'll second. >> And you agree? 318 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,120 » Jim agrees. 319 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:55,520 » Okay. Moving on to the next item, which is 320 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:58,920 council and mayor comments. Anyone from the council have comments? 321 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:06,000 No. No comments? Okay. 322 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:09,760 Then I'll move on to the mayor comments. I have a couple of um items that I 323 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,285 wanted to mention. Um 324 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,680 the first thing >> [clears throat] 325 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:18,560 » residents should know is that I'm requesting that residents 326 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:23,760 take care of their properties. They need to start getting rid of trash on their 327 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:28,840 properties, cut their grass, just take care of their little patch in our town, 328 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:33,960 so that our town looks well cared for and does not look neglected. So, the 329 00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:37,520 town what town hall has been receiving complaints about various properties 330 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:41,800 around the town and we try to address them as that we become aware of them. 331 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:45,720 Um but I just wanted to make special note that people are responsible for 332 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:50,840 taking care of their properties, taking out their trash, and cleaning it up. 333 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:55,280 So, for me that's pretty important. I think it's um 334 00:22:53,040 --> 00:23:00,120 it's a good point. It's a good It's good for people to take care of their little 335 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:04,240 patch of America, the way I see it. Second thing that I want people to know 336 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,760 is that next week, starting next week Monday, 337 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:12,080 our DPW, Department of Public Works, will be flushing our fire hydrants. 338 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:15,320 So, every single fire hydrant in the town will be flushed. I think there's 339 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:20,040 about 42 of them, but I stand to correction, Kevin. 340 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:24,560 Um I did put it out on my Facebook page. I did put it out on our website, and I 341 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:28,600 did put it out and we did give it to the newspaper. 342 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:31,800 Um So, when you flush it, and Kevin, correct me that it's going to be There's 343 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,280 a possibility of it being a little tinged, right? Yeah. With brown? 344 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,160 » Yeah. >> Um so, if you just run it until it's 345 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:39,800 clear, >> Yep. 346 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,920 » it should be fine. Do you have anything else you want to 347 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,680 add to that? >> No, that's basically it. 348 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,261 » Okay. >> About how many gallons does a 349 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,760 flushing >> [clears throat] 350 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:52,680 » require? Per per gallon? 351 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,680 » It just depends. 352 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,680 » Okay. And then, the third thing I wanted to 353 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,720 mention, and then for the town council members, 354 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:06,080 we have here a special meeting on August 24th at 3:00 p.m. So, there'll be a 355 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:09,400 public hearing, and then straight after that, I think 5 minutes right after the 356 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:13,720 public hearing, to reset, plus minus, and then we'll move into um it's for the 357 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:19,520 budget. So, 358 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:22,960 that will be on August 24th at 3:00 p.m. It'll be um 359 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,280 comments Oh, that's right. Comments on the final budget, and then also the mill 360 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:31,120 levies will be cuz that's what their resolution was 361 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,120 that you didn't get to, the mill levies. 362 00:24:31,146 --> 00:24:33,166 » [clears throat] 363 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:40,880 » Okay. Do you have something, Neil? 364 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:45,600 » Thank you, Mayor. Uh Friday I dealt with an individual 365 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:49,520 that was starting a fire, and uh we don't have any restrictions on 366 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:52,680 that, given that it's a recreational fire, except that he was burning a 367 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:56,720 television. And so, we do have a law, and he was 368 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,840 cited for that, but it it kind of brought up a discussion, and you and I 369 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:03,000 spoke on Friday. I was hoping to have opportunity for the council to just 370 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,840 address [clears throat] if we are moving into fire season elevated risk. You 371 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:11,200 mentioned the the rubbish in the yard and that puts each residence 372 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:16,320 at greater risk. I've invited our fire chief here today 373 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:22,600 as well and it's in reference to our city code section 78. 374 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,600 And 375 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,720 I'll just if you don't mind, I'll just read the the short phrase. Um 376 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,280 See. 377 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:43,880 Waste paper similar readily combustibles non-explosive material may be disposed 378 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:48,400 of by burning in incinerators of a type and condition approved by the fire chief 379 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:52,240 except during such hours or periods as the fire chief may determine such 380 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,987 burning would constitute a fire hazard. And so 381 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,800 we are moving into that season. [clears throat] 382 00:25:56,120 --> 00:26:02,640 I think it would be appropriate, but it's not my call, for the town to adopt 383 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:06,560 the county standards when they go to level whatever with their fire 384 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:09,400 situation. Uh fire chief, do you have something for 385 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:13,920 us, Ron? >> Um 386 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:17,880 the county state of Montana and the the federal 387 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:21,320 government this time of year they meet on Tuesday mornings 388 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:24,720 and that's where they all sit down and talk about 389 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,440 what the fire danger is. Have there been human caused fires? 390 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,480 There's a number of factors they talk about. That's an extremely factor for 391 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:36,720 going to restrictions or taking restrictions off. 392 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:41,000 My comment on that is I think it's appropriate for the town to 393 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:44,160 move to restrictions, but I think it's appropriate for the 394 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:48,600 town to move at the same time. Move in unison. 395 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:52,760 A number of years ago and it's been a couple of decades 396 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:57,240 they did not all the entities did not move in unison, the tribes and the state 397 00:26:54,680 --> 00:27:03,200 and whatever else. And so you have a mishmash of different restrictions in 398 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:06,080 different places and for people living 399 00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:10,400 in the city limits, they could, for example, they might be 400 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,880 under restrictions that nobody else was and vice versa. And I just don't think 401 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,440 that's good business. It is confusing to people and I think 402 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:21,600 if you choose to do that, I I would strongly encourage you to 403 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,600 do it in unison at the same time. You would move with them. 404 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,320 » And when you say within you mean the state [clears throat] or do you mean 405 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:30,400 Lincoln County? >> Get the county's involved as well. 406 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:34,720 » So, to me >> we the last 407 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:38,640 fire season we did, we actually made it so that we do go with what the county 408 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,200 every time. So, we >> you've got a new regulation 409 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,640 » Yes, we do. So, we do >> So, it does move in a 410 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,760 » Yep, I didn't know >> We already do, yep. 411 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:50,400 » So, we we follow what Lincoln County what they say, we follow. 412 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,680 » Yep. Or it's actually you can go stricter. 413 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,520 » Mhm. >> That's the way we set it up, but you at 414 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:59,040 the minimum you want to be set the same place as the fire service in your county 415 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:03,160 are. >> Okay. So, does that does that answer 416 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:07,600 your question? >> I believe so. I guess maybe we can get 417 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,960 that regulation posted. Perhaps the newspaper can get the idea of making 418 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:14,160 people aware of it. Maybe >> And I'll put it on the website, too. 419 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,920 » Thank you. >> Thank you for bringing this to our 420 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,920 attention. 421 00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:22,800 Thanks, Chief Comey. Appreciate your time. I'd like to give us some 422 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:27,280 information. Uh we have public comments on our agenda 423 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:30,120 items. If anybody has anything they'd like to say. 424 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:36,880 All right. Moving on to adjournment. Thank you for everyone for coming 425 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:41,760 um to our town council meeting. We love seeing people here. Thank you for that. 426 00:28:40,704 --> 00:28:44,560 » [clears throat] >> Rock oriented. 427 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:51,080 I'm going to have to get out of here since it's our last since it's our last 428 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:55,480 day. >> I don't know. It's 41 minutes. 429 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,480 » Yeah. 430 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:01,664 » Catherine asked me how long and I said I've been here for like 20 minutes. 431 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,684 » Yeah, 48 minutes. >> [laughter] 432 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,920 » You know what are you doing? I was 433 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,560 just going to say hi. >> Yeah, I got to go.