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[0:35] Good morning and welcome to the Evansville City Tree Advisory Board, September 3rd, 26 Vice President
[0:42] Mike Schott and I are beginning the proceedings
[0:44] as we wait on Sarah, let's direct our flag.
[0:47] We have a quorum of four, for isn't.
[0:52] The first issue, we're gonna put it towards the end here,
[0:56] come Sarah.
[0:57] Let's go ahead and drop that down below the regular business
[1:01] if we could.
[1:02] Number one, number two, the task force.
[1:05] Are you gonna present on that?
[1:07] I have not had an opportunity to read what she's sent out
[1:11] Has anyone else, what these sent out to us, Beatrice?
[1:16] She's still working on it.
[1:17] I understand that she sent some general info.
[1:21] I mean, is there anything to talk about on number two?
[1:24] Well, yeah.
[1:25] I just want to mention real quick that the,
[1:27] I don't know.
[1:28] It's not on here.
[1:30] The, the, the, the Westman was grant.
[1:33] His pay was supposed to be on here.
[1:34] The Westman was grant.
[1:36] It had also been paying for an intern that helped us.
[1:38] And she has completely that image for her as a few weeks ago.
[1:43] And so we will have that to report sent to her,
[1:46] and we're going to have some fine details on it.
[1:48] Okay, so the task force, did everyone receive what Beatrice
[1:51] sent out just sort of that satisfactory for her?
[1:54] So what, it sounds like we'll have two pretty major items
[1:58] to report in October on the inventory,
[2:03] and on Beatrice's work on the task force.
[2:06] Yes, I don't know. Beatrice will be done by October. Maybe no number. Okay, that's coming soon for the end of the year
[2:15] Sarah, I put off the sidewalk tree issue for later Jennifer Roll is here. She'd like to
[2:23] Speak on the record on that
[2:26] Through a day on so I think we're to I
[2:28] Um three and I'll pass the gavel over to Sarah. Thank you. We haven't done a proven minutes yet
[2:35] Yeah, I didn't do the minute and my I had to apologize last month
[2:40] I had June minutes ready for approval and Sarah asked me and I
[2:46] For God, so we need to approve June and August minutes July minutes have already been approved
[2:52] Move for approval
[2:55] I make a motion to approve the minutes from July and go from June and August. Yes, both
[3:01] those sets and I do have one point of clarification on the tree and so I will come up with this
[3:07] you. So I'm going to leave that to the end.
[3:14] Yeah, I need a motion to approve the minutes. Can I get a second?
[3:17] No, second.
[3:18] Sure, I made the motion to approve.
[3:20] Gene second in it. All those in favor say aye.
[3:23] Aye.
[3:23] All right.
[3:26] So we're going to item number three right now.
[3:33] So, request to remove part trees from Amanda Berks for the, I'm assuming for the Pian Park Neighborhood Association.
[3:46] And for the record, we've all looked at those trees this morning, and they were sent to us in a dance.
[3:53] So, as part of our department, okay with those?
[3:55] Yes.
[3:58] I would move for approval, you hate removing trees in this area, but we have planted a lot
[4:06] of trees in this area, so a lot of trees in this area are far more than this, probably
[4:11] more like four or five to one, but I serve on the van Avenue soccer and we've requested many
[4:24] these to be removed because they're a danger to the children over there.
[4:28] They're playing.
[4:29] Oh, I got confused.
[4:30] I thought this is the impact you're right.
[4:31] This is Woodmeer.
[4:32] Yes.
[4:32] There are.
[4:33] There are.
[4:34] They bought up against each other.
[4:36] Yeah.
[4:36] I've been keeping my eye on the streets for some time.
[4:39] So some of them are actually not in Woodmeer.
[4:42] I believe my eye on other things.
[4:46] Yeah.
[4:46] The soccer field.
[4:48] That's the second emotion.
[4:50] All right.
[4:51] Mike made the motion to approve the removal of the
[4:54] trees at the state hospital.
[5:00] I'm on Amanda's recommendation. Parks has looked at him. You're okay with that.
[5:04] Yes, thank you. All those in favor? Aye. Aye, aye, aye, all those opposed? All right. And request approval to remove street trees.
[5:16] We are looking at these. Wow. Is that girdling? Well, I think it may be a background. Oh, okay.
[5:27] But the record, this is the worst list of trees I've seen in months because we know we keep
[5:33] taking some off, but this is a dead as group of trees. I've seen it on our agenda
[5:39] a long time, unfortunately.
[5:41] These are still all the wood miértries that I heard there's quite a few over there that
[5:48] have been a little shabby looking, but yeah, like you said, we had that big planting, I think
[5:53] It was in 2021.
[5:56] We've been really about four years of planning there.
[5:59] Yes, and on top of other things, okay.
[6:02] In a manual, you'll probably notice that some of these are in boulevard.
[6:04] Like Ravenswood, those are in boulevard's, but that's, I guess, kind of a shared area.
[6:13] All right.
[6:14] So, did we have somebody make a motion to approve these street trees removal?
[6:18] I'll make a motion to approve the street trees for A through 4H.
[6:23] Okay.
[6:25] Jeans made the emotion.
[6:28] I made a second it.
[6:29] All those in favor say aye.
[6:31] All those post.
[6:33] All right.
[6:34] Yeah, those were some.
[6:36] This is a big stack of really.
[6:38] Sad looking trees.
[6:39] Yeah, that.
[6:40] We've had some of the big controversy.
[6:42] They're learning to be.
[6:43] No.
[6:44] Okay.
[6:45] On item C1 and 2 madam chairman.
[6:49] They kind of blend into what B's working on.
[6:54] And we should have had for you this month, and again, I regret, we're just going as fast as we can.
[7:01] On the end of coordination, there's this giant issue of not mowing back, and it's not only, we've talked about it in the task force.
[7:11] So it affects our Macy species groups, it affects us.
[7:18] It's probably affecting some of the trees we plant, because they've got to compete.
[7:23] And so we'll have a resolution.
[7:26] May take it to elected officials first, rather than advisory boards, because it'll have
[7:33] more force and effect, but I can only say it's going to get worse before it gets better.
[7:38] We meet with them every month.
[7:40] Now, the good side is what they do take care of,
[7:43] they do a heck of a job, and the letter pick up is,
[7:46] you know, a thousand times better than what it used to be.
[7:49] So, you know, it's a six-one-a-half dozen problem.
[7:53] I have driven every lick of the Save Indiana
[7:57] because of grandchildren, and it's the same everywhere.
[8:01] So, it's not, in fact, truthfully, this sub-district
[8:06] does the best job of any of them.
[8:09] But it's, we are told by them and our monthly meetings,
[8:13] it's going to get worse.
[8:14] Can you clarify what?
[8:16] So they're not mowing to the fence lines.
[8:18] They used to mow to the fence line once a year.
[8:21] So if you just leave downtown, you'll see it's not so bad.
[8:25] Not bad theirs, it is other places.
[8:27] Go out and look in front of the state hospital,
[8:30] look in front of a lot of the businesses
[8:34] that are out on the wood expressway.
[8:37] And so we have areas to the finseine that are, we know we have a problem out in FALO land
[8:48] or SIRT-MIND land where you see the Bradford Bears, there's not just Bradford Bears, it's
[8:54] all the areas, it's what you're native, but it's going to be very difficult to deal with it.
[9:01] And we lose, the business people are as concerned as we are.
[9:05] They spend enormous sums of money taking care of their property, farmers taking enormous
[9:12] amount of care taken care of their property, and it's a breeding ground for not only
[9:18] evasies but weeds, so it's a remote area that you're referencing for the endot coordination.
[9:24] I'm just the line item I'm confused about. On endot coordination, it really goes to them
[9:31] a much broader focus on endocordination for them when they do work to plant trees and to come
[9:38] to us and get our approval before they cut down trees on state highway property. They generally
[9:45] do both of those now as a result of this effort but they don't legally have to. In part of our
[9:58] wires probably too.
[10:00] Senator tree boards to try and get in dot as other states have done to put it in code that they have to do that.
[10:08] Our sub-district is pretty good for the most part working with us on that. We have to work with them on permits, as well, when we want to plant.
[10:20] And most of the trees we end up planning with private money, or City of Evansville, or County of Annabird Monty, or with money from solid waste.
[10:29] So, so that coordination is broad, we haven't gotten a statute yet, but we keep trying
[10:39] never given up.
[10:40] But the coordination part is, and Shons invited every month, but KAB facilitates that.
[10:48] Keep those little beautiful.
[10:49] Keep those little beautiful is responsible for this board being adopted.
[10:54] So, Teresa of the USA National Arbor Society is the main driver of three advisory boards.
[11:02] So that's where we are on coordination.
[11:05] I put that under endot, it'll be coming to you to try and manage that property better.
[11:15] It's a big issue.
[11:16] It looks like we're a state that is underfunded.
[11:21] When we're out driving and you see these states that aren't being maintained or these roads
[11:25] that aren't, I mean, it looks bad.
[11:28] I will say we still look better than Kentucky,
[11:30] but Illinois, you know, a state that is physically broke.
[11:35] It's far better than we are.
[11:37] We look like Ohio's far better than we are.
[11:39] And we're not a broke state, so.
[11:41] We have a surplus.
[11:42] Yes.
[11:43] So it seems like they're overlooking for that.
[11:47] It's a chamber of commerce issue.
[11:50] I know you're working hard.
[11:52] I know you're working hard to get.
[11:53] We're going to bring it to you, but truthfully we need the elected officials to sign off.
[12:00] So it'll be a comprehensive process and Nick, as I can direct our KV,
[12:05] Akarino's work on it and it's just, it's not his fault.
[12:09] It's.
[12:10] Right.
[12:12] But he's also working on a lot of other things and it's a small, funded organization.
[12:21] We have guests here. Are you guys here to speak today?
[12:24] I kind of, we've been working with Jennifer a lot. Always have and she and her sister.
[12:31] And this issue of the tree inside, well, complex came up and I ordered her to.
[12:35] But more importantly, I mean, she can talk to that and I think supports our viewpoint from the bigger,
[12:42] Evansville Forestry Group, urban Forestry Group, but also she's working hand in hand with
[12:47] us, again, volunteers, enormous amounts of her time to send all of us to, and you know,
[12:53] kind of talk about what we're doing on the tree, she helped us facilitate what meetings
[13:00] are going so well, but getting tree, you heard me over and over and over and over,
[13:06] that we shouldn't just plant trees and parks, no fence.
[13:10] We need to get them out in the neighborhoods where people live.
[13:13] Our parks are, we have nice parks.
[13:17] And we certainly plant a parks, but it's just too easy to do that.
[13:20] If you look at what, let's do benchmark cities in Indiana.
[13:24] Benchmark in Indiana are Bloomington and West Lafayette.
[13:29] And I think Lafayette, I'd put all three of those in benchmark cities
[13:33] in terms of what they do in urban tree planting.
[13:38] So I remember a time when you drove in on 3rd Street
[13:40] and it looked like a bomb shelter until you got
[13:42] pretty much a day on town blowing me to turn on 3rd Street now.
[13:47] It's tree line the entire way.
[13:49] We need to have the same on Washington Avenue.
[13:52] We need to have the same on Lincoln Avenue.
[13:55] We need to have the same on Walnut in my view point.
[13:58] Those are heavily traveled streets.
[14:00] We're losing these oak trees every month.
[14:03] there's one of these oak trees, we're trying to save a couple of them.
[14:08] So I guess I would, I kind of invited Jennifer to come and I guess talk about what's
[14:14] going on on trying to get these out in the neighborhood with, she helped facilitate a meeting
[14:22] with a memorial foundation to help Jennifer come up and explain some memorial foundation
[14:27] does a lot of housing in the inner city as it has been to a housing and then that's kind
[14:32] where we're losing these trees in the sidewalk issues, Jennifer?
[14:37] Good morning, everybody. Thanks for having me.
[14:40] So yeah, I'll just give everyone an update,
[14:44] although probably most of you know all this anyway.
[14:46] And then I do have some questions.
[14:49] So Jessica and I are working with everybody
[14:51] on the plantings for the grant that
[14:56] Westman Woods facilitated for us.
[15:00] We have $145,000 left to spend on tree planting. It has to be spent by the end of 2007. So we've
[15:08] really got to get moving on it. We did have a meeting at Westminster's Tuesday because Derek
[15:16] is leaving and so we're just kind of getting everybody together. The grant requires I don't
[15:22] know how familiar you are with it, but the majority of the trees beyond public property, but that
[15:28] like 49% can be on private property.
[15:31] So Mike set up a meeting with the housing authority.
[15:34] That went really well.
[15:36] We have a really good plan.
[15:37] Sean and I drove around with the maintenance guy
[15:40] and identified locations.
[15:42] They printed the Google Earth things.
[15:47] And so Sean's when he has an opportunity
[15:50] will make a list of what you know, what to put here.
[15:54] And then we take it back to the housing authority.
[15:55] They'll give us, you know, they're okay, and then that should be on the fault planting this year.
[16:00] We were trying to do the same thing with memorial foundation Memorial Baptist Church.
[16:05] I've had two meetings with Serita there, and Sean and I met and we drove around.
[16:11] Also did the same thing make notes. I put a spreadsheet together and sent it to her,
[16:16] but I have not, I've sent three emails trying to get a response from her and I'm not.
[16:21] So hopefully you guys can make some headway with Serita.
[16:25] Maybe I'll have any mail today, and I'll let you know if I do.
[16:28] So those are the places where we're looking at putting
[16:32] trees on private property, which I don't know is,
[16:35] do we decide housing authority as private or public property?
[16:38] In any event, it's not a part.
[16:40] I think it should be considered public property.
[16:45] Anyway, there'll be street trees where people live and live in parks.
[16:49] Yeah, so the goal is to get them, you know, in the multi-family complexes and for memorial in particular we have some single family homes that they own that they rent that we were talking about putting trees and we did not get to any scattered site housing with the housing authority yet that was all concentrated on the multi family properties.
[17:11] So yeah, it's pretty exciting.
[17:13] Talk about the cash flow issue that Jennifer's really worked through.
[17:17] They we had a good it's a very difficult issue and
[17:22] Yeah, we got when we met with Westelman's they
[17:26] Paul Paul Bouseman was concerned that
[17:31] With the amount of access funding that Westelman's could front and then wait to be reimbursed by the grant we weren't going to be able to go through the grant money and time
[17:40] So we started looking at other things in old national, which is where I work
[17:43] had a meeting with some of us about possibly setting up a line of credit, waving the interests,
[17:49] et cetera, just to help facilitate that.
[17:51] And that option is still available if we need to, but Westminster did tell us the other
[17:54] day they got two pretty big donations and they feel like they can handle it now.
[18:01] But I told them, you know, if we get what we're talking about doing with the housing authority
[18:06] and with memorial, all in play this fall winter spring, we may need the line of credit just
[18:13] because it may be more than they can handle.
[18:15] I don't know.
[18:16] So that is still available there.
[18:18] So Jennifer's hard work is push, push, push,
[18:21] to get these in the ground sooner than later.
[18:26] So, if you could get them all in the ground on all
[18:29] these projects this year, that would be one of the
[18:35] grants, securing grants is hard work.
[18:40] And I would say this region probably gets a C
[18:43] on securing grants, whether communities do better,
[18:47] it's securing these national grants,
[18:50] whether it be from private foundations or from the government.
[18:54] But the worst thing that can happen is you secure a grant,
[18:57] and you don't use the money, and you get to send it back.
[18:59] And I've come to learn in doing this so many years in my work,
[19:05] I'm astonished how many grants have to get sent back to the grant
[19:09] And in my mind's eye, anything I'm involved in where we allow that to happen, shame on us, shame, shame on us.
[19:19] And Jennifer, you know, has been pushed into the alarm button to say, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[19:23] Let's not let that happen.
[19:25] And as she said, you get turnover, it was some in woods, things happen.
[19:30] And there's all kinds of reasons that it occurs, but we as a community have got to have the
[19:39] this and not let this happen. And so I want to commend her for that and again, it's all
[19:46] volunteer time. Yeah, Jennifer, this is an enormous task you've taken on and it's really
[19:54] hard to sit here so you talk about cutting them down. I know, no, I believe it. And then your
[19:59] This is your name as a week.
[20:01] We have an over and over and over, both of us gone, like Evans O'Housing, Sean and I have been pecking
[20:11] on that one for at least five years, I mean, for Bernie Hyman, really, it was the last time.
[20:18] I'm on the Indian housing authority. It means everyone, you know what, we're going to give you
[20:21] a little more money from the state, and to start allowing these people to have a treat to set
[20:26] under in the shade like all of us have, you know,
[20:30] I have to travel to the bar,
[20:31] it's like, and so it was a good meeting and I think,
[20:35] but their common always was we get our money,
[20:39] it's all brick and mortar.
[20:42] That's a bigger problem.
[20:45] I mean, I think the money coming from housing
[20:48] should say you have to put trees on property,
[20:51] it doesn't, and so that's what happens.
[20:54] And by the way, street trees, some of these, you guys went out and picked them, but some of them will be parking lot trees too.
[21:02] I consider that just as important, you know, to cover this parking lot.
[21:07] Yeah, and then what do we think we might get up to 200 at the housing authority sites that we visited?
[21:12] I think it's, I think it's going to be close.
[21:14] Yeah.
[21:15] Initially, my initial job.
[21:18] I think it'll be great.
[21:20] So yeah, it's super exciting and it's a lot of fun for both of us to work on.
[21:25] I do have some questions for you guys, so you made a comment on one time when we were talking to somebody.
[21:34] Oh, I think it was probably when we were driving around with the housing authority guy about the trees that go in between the sidewalk and the street that area.
[21:44] You had said something about, you know, if there's a problem you will maintain, or you will take care of it.
[21:49] Well, if there's ever a tree in the right away, and if the tree dies, or if it has low
[21:56] lens over the street, they're hitting cars, we have the right to prune or remove those
[22:01] as needed.
[22:02] So, if something happens to those trees, we would be happy right when we'd be capable of either
[22:08] removing them if they die or prune them if they start to grow low.
[22:13] So to read your section, does not cover private trees in the property?
[22:19] Can but it is the right to take care of them like that, extend to the right to just say,
[22:26] we're going to plant trees here, Mr. Homeowner, and just go along Walnut or go along.
[22:31] So that question shows up in front of us a thousand times Aaron Elm here, every mile of Evansville
[22:39] almost is different. There are some areas the absolutely as at complete authority and there are
[22:47] many others. Let's take Washington Avenue. That's been the one that's driven us, certified like
[22:52] crazy. And there it appears the homeowner's own to the street. So could we? So we've got green areas all
[23:00] up and down Washington Avenue where they're used to be trees. They're too narrow. I mean we would not
[23:06] design for trees that narrow, but they were there.
[23:10] But that becomes the issue is that, and so Rails
[23:14] to trails is in the same issue in Indiana.
[23:18] Indiana Law has come down in favor of the joining
[23:22] property owners having to the edge, whether it's a railroad
[23:26] they own it.
[23:27] And so it's a real trick bag in Indiana.
[23:30] There are places like downtown where we've done redeveloped
[23:36] So if we have redevelopment commission, we do it where we, we have control those areas.
[23:41] In fact, we irrigate them. If you look, we just put it in.
[23:44] I mean, I wonder if we're trying to get more trees, more street trees like that.
[23:48] If we could identify those streets where we have the right to do that.
[23:53] And it's pretty expensive. I mean, we have to hire title companies.
[23:57] And I think we just, oh, okay.
[24:00] Yeah, so I think what you do is say,
[24:03] So we're going to get the inventory back and we say, here's where we have a tree desert and we
[24:10] want to go and we pick those corridors. Nick with KV thinks greener road north is an issue because
[24:20] KV's charge is where are there 60,000 cars a day. We want 60,000 people a day versus say
[24:30] street where there's a hundred cars a day.
[24:34] I mean, that's not the public impacts not there.
[24:37] So green river, there's an example one we're looking at.
[24:42] And then you get into the area where they're power,
[24:45] their lines, if they're just lines to streetlights,
[24:49] we can plan, we can plan and oak under those.
[24:52] I mean, the city's public works department
[24:54] may not be so happy about it, but you can.
[24:59] .
[24:59] .
[25:00] On the other hand, Paul's not here. If it's under a power line, it supplies oxygen to grandma's
[25:07] house next door. We can't be super thrust to plant the wrong free there. So it's a complex
[25:14] issue. I think you're right. But I think we picked those deserts and say, Washington Avenue,
[25:22] whatever, we picked those streets. So you identify the area. And then you say, Vossy title, what
[25:27] can we do here? We can pick those areas and find the funds and figure it out. That's what
[25:33] blo...when I gave you the examples, that's what Bloomington did on 3rd Street. They figured it out.
[25:39] So they concentrated on 3rd and the other thing they did, in many cases, they did a road diet,
[25:46] instead of a road diet putting a turn line, like look at what we just did on van and there's
[25:51] one island there. Well, that island, instead of just having poles on it,
[25:59] that island said that I have poles on it could have trees in it,
[26:03] just like Alvard, St. James, those are areas.
[26:08] But yeah, we can do it, but I think we've got to identify like one mile stretches
[26:13] and do that and move to the next one.
[26:16] I think that's a great way to do it, because the impact is immediate in those areas.
[26:19] So we'll tell you KBs, leaning towards, but some of these trees,
[26:27] like gene trees was solid waste on other restrictions on, right?
[26:31] Whereas some trees have restrictions that've got to be...
[26:33] Where they go, sure.
[26:34] No, it's the income level, right?
[26:38] Right.
[26:38] Yeah, they've got to be on some grants.
[26:40] You can't plant the trees, but in low income areas.
[26:44] That's what the screen is.
[26:45] That's what the screen is.
[26:45] Westman grants that way.
[26:47] So those are things we're looking at and hopefully we're going to get the new inventory and well
[26:53] I think what we need to do is say we're going to do this mile do what Bloomington did
[26:58] So Lafayette, they're not stupid chamber of commerce joined him in it if you're coming into Purdue
[27:03] Which is a lot of us they basically said for me
[27:10] But they basically said now they're they're ugly ugly like green of a road
[27:15] Now, right next to the interstate, they haven't gotten that fixed yet, but when you get
[27:21] in to some point they've done it, just like Bloomington, but Bloomington's now all the way
[27:27] to the interstate, but on both accents, so I've got something to add to the conversation too.
[27:36] So there currently is a grant that we're applying for next year and the goal of the grant
[27:42] is to, it's a $30,000 grant to pay for advertising campaign to educate the public about the benefits
[27:51] of trees and, you know, it has a plan to write tree in the right place. And the idea is to, you know,
[28:00] get the public involved in planting when there are properties where we can't plant. And we want to connect
[28:07] that appetite, those advertising campaign efforts and time it right, so let's write before our
[28:12] tree giveaways. So we're also talking about maybe doing a full tree giveaway next year as well.
[28:20] So hopefully maybe that will add to creating canopy in those areas where we typically can't plan.
[28:29] So then my next question is, in this, you were talking about endot in the, in the
[28:37] areas by the highways. What, what enter a departmental
[28:41] cooperation do we have an Evansville as far as planning
[28:45] things like this? Because it sort of seems to me like,
[28:48] well, you talked about the sidewalk thing, and when
[28:54] when areas are being developed or, you know, changes are being made or
[28:57] you know, trees or trees are being paved, new sidewalks,
[29:00] whatever, do they work with you guys?
[29:04] And, or if not, can we strengthen that?
[29:08] Well, the first thing we did when we formed,
[29:10] was we formed intergovernmental agreements
[29:13] with the levee authority, school corporation, helped me.
[29:17] Because they're not subject to jurisdiction.
[29:21] So then they all coordinate very well with us.
[29:25] So you're having trouble with this one particular issue
[29:28] with the sidewalks.
[29:31] And those oak trees of your time mat?
[29:33] Yeah, and we have a meeting set for that's coming up to try and bridge that and Aaron sent a lot of hard work to help us bridge that
[29:40] So ever once while you have them within the department, so the big thing we did and we sponsored and we got through was our code now provides less parking more trees on all new development
[29:54] And I think it should be abundantly a parent of our success if you go to Costco
[30:00] So where are you going to target?
[30:03] Okay, so go to best, go to best by, that pre-day saw work. And then
[30:11] okay, pull in that one, okay, which they just ripped out every shrub along, you know, they had at least
[30:18] something, but they've taken everything out along Burkhard, likewise of Walmart Center, who sells trees,
[30:25] always find that astonishing. They sell trees, but they don't plan them. But then look at
[30:31] our new developments and they have, you know, there's one being Bill right now that, so when
[30:39] they read dead Washington Square Mall, look at how much they plan it. Goodwill. So, so, like
[30:45] when did you develop or want to do a private subdivision? Is there any, is there any, um, you're
[30:51] You're going to be bouncing?
[30:52] Yeah.
[30:53] Discussion about, okay, there's this, like there's a, there's a field on my bike ride that
[31:00] I do if I ride in the morning and it's going to be developed and you can, I mean, there's
[31:05] of Ron McGill and sign there and everything, but there's a great, beautiful tree in the
[31:09] middle of it and it's, you know, it'd be nice if someone would say, can you just design
[31:13] this and keep this, maybe make it like a central, a common area or something to, is there
[31:19] of that kind of stuff going on. Is there a way to strengthen that? I can't you know the homeowners
[31:23] associations pretty strong and I don't know that we've ever stood down with them. They've had
[31:29] enormous fights on storm water that have just been pretty crazy on the other end. I think
[31:35] it's something we could explore and that they're very well organized. I had a talk with Jeff
[31:41] Hatfield. He's not too involved in it anymore but he did say that there's the organization is just
[31:48] There's not as many members, there's not as much
[31:50] development going on as there had been in prior years,
[31:53] and I'm not, I don't get involved in that anymore.
[31:56] But I would think, if I could talk to people.
[31:58] I mean, they're an organized group.
[32:00] You could work at, but in terms of the requirements,
[32:03] they just said exists on commercial.
[32:05] They don't exist in our code for residents.
[32:07] Do we have that many Haways going in the city limits
[32:12] that are new development?
[32:14] Well, that's probably true.
[32:15] It's probably not city limits.
[32:16] Yeah, because we're limited to the city.
[32:18] I mean, I mean, we're counting.
[32:20] So, and you, what's the city limits only?
[32:22] You're saying, okay, okay, okay.
[32:25] So, and only, the other thing I really wanted to say is,
[32:29] I'm still really frustrated with centerpoints
[32:31] and the clear cutting they're doing
[32:34] in a long neighborhood streets.
[32:36] And the lack of trying to find an alternative way
[32:43] to solve it a problem.
[32:46] Paul's not ears.
[32:47] I know.
[32:48] Yeah, it was the last minute that he couldn't be ears, so maybe he saw you were coming out.
[32:54] It's really frustrating.
[32:56] I mean, I have to be really careful, just because of my job and everything, but I'd like to be really
[33:00] vocal about it.
[33:01] It's really, I don't think they need to do.
[33:03] I know they don't need to do what they do.
[33:05] I know they don't need to bully people the way they bully people.
[33:08] on like the strip along covert avenue by the cemetery,
[33:12] they could have handled that a little bit better,
[33:17] just for the record.
[33:19] We'll make sure Paul needs minutes.
[33:23] Okay, all right, thanks.
[33:25] Well, thank you, Jennifer, in Jessica.
[33:26] You guys are doing so much and it's really,
[33:28] makes a big impact and your work is very appreciated.
[33:33] And hopefully in 20 years you'll be seeing the rewards
[33:37] of your hard work.
[33:41] It's true.
[33:45] They're really filling in.
[33:48] We prosecute the warranty claims.
[33:51] And if you know, for whatever reason, there were maybe four to six, and I looked
[33:55] and because they sort of artwork prosecuted as claims.
[33:58] So by the replacements, we'll see if they can make it through this mini drought
[34:02] we're in, but they look like they've, you know, the replacements survived.
[34:09] I feel ashamed when I ride around with Jennifer because she's doing this for free and I'm going to pay for it
[34:16] It makes me want to work harder to make sure that we get more trees planted so thank you for motivating me
[34:23] Well, I'm just going to add I'm really excited to see be as a report and be as master plan and I hope that I'm sure you guys probably don't have anything to do with the budget
[34:33] but I hope they can increase your budget and manpower
[34:35] and everything so that there's an opportunity for more.
[34:41] I think it's certainly easy.
[34:44] Yeah, other states have accomplished that by, you see
[34:53] when you buy a Coke or beer, you know,
[34:56] that some places is a nickel or a dime back in Indiana.
[35:00] It's not done that, and that's the source of funding, for trees and beautification.
[35:09] Michigan did it, I think Michigan, you know, back to the thing, Michigan, Ohio or the stuff ahead of us, and so those are examples of, you got to have a revenue source,
[35:24] and those are some spots that, you know, the other problem in Indiana is we don't have a keep in Indiana.
[35:32] So, keep America beautiful, the organization that sort of supports
[35:37] letter trees, flowers, beautification, and we're one of maybe certainly
[35:44] minority that doesn't have a state organization with a paid person.
[35:48] They can lobby the state level for this.
[35:52] So,
[35:54] those are the bigger issues,
[35:58] and, you know, if we can accomplish that,
[36:01] It'll help us on the end on the coordination in those bigger issues.
[36:12] So, there are city council members or more generous, and then realize the amount of state money
[36:20] that's dropped into their communities is just mind-boggling.
[36:24] I mean, we have USI, but it does not compare to what Purdue and both of those have endowments
[36:34] that are, I mean, we're national champions in football, and then in an ILR, it's a reflection
[36:42] of the fact that, you know, if we ever say that.
[36:45] So that's the difference.
[36:53] All right.
[36:54] So somebody could donate a billion dollars to the Vanderbilt County Community Foundation.
[36:59] I think we could solve these problems too.
[37:02] And that's what they have on top of the community foundations.
[37:08] I'm going to have to skid out all out of here shortly so I do have a point of clarification
[37:16] on the former issue if that will be okay.
[37:19] So back to the trees inside Wawng, so back in June, Brian Monday, Tennessee, and the area approach
[37:25] the tree board master's permission to the tree on Cherry Street and he didn't have the address
[37:32] at the time.
[37:35] And I had assumed it was the same tree that we approved previous to that,
[37:39] which was November last year. At 212 East Cherry Street, but I was incorrect on that.
[37:46] So the tree that he actually saw to prove for that we approved was at 400 southeast
[37:52] second on the Cherry Street side of the property. So I just want to bring up that point of
[37:59] verification, if anybody, I don't know, if we would need to
[38:03] revote on that or not, but that tree has been removed.
[38:07] Now, I believe, and that tree that he was speaking of,
[38:11] literally was tearing up the street.
[38:13] So, I think, regardless of anything, it would still
[38:17] need to approve that, even if it does a separate tree.
[38:21] But I think we can approve it.
[38:23] Seconds of motion
[38:25] So Mike made the motion to approve the tree on parallel. We had the wrong address
[38:30] Yeah, and Sarah second of it all those in favors. I all those opposed. Thank you. Yeah
[38:38] Tidy up
[38:39] Can can all the items since there are needs to leave from
[38:43] Is there anything else when you talk really up to talk about the dates on the items are listed here so we can see him. We don't need to
[38:50] Reem in the record. Do we?
[38:51] No, tree plane is coming in November, the first and second we can in November, on Saturday
[38:59] is, to be announced, one of those will be at Halepark, as we're planning for, and the other
[39:05] one we may have at Lucas Hill cemetery, but more information coming soon on those.
[39:12] Most of our trees will likely be planted by the contractors.
[39:18] Have we looked at locusville cemetery?
[39:20] Yes.
[39:22] You said we're going to alcal, locusville cemetery.
[39:25] We're doing locus.
[39:26] Because that really is lacking of trees and a big wide.
[39:30] That's municipal.
[39:31] I'm sorry.
[39:32] I missed some of that.
[39:33] I thought you said oh yeah.
[39:35] Okay.
[39:35] Locusville cemetery is great.
[39:40] All right.
[39:40] Well are we moving for German?
[39:42] All right.
[39:43] I second it.
[39:43] Mike made the motion.
[39:44] Sir, second it.
[39:45] All those in favor.
[39:46] All right.
[39:48] See you all next month.
[39:49] Thank you.