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[0:07] I'm not sure if that's for shutting up the routiness or if it can call it to the mayor.
[0:12] I mean, you'll call it the call for a community of different seats, so yeah, I like it.
[0:16] Are you normally there? I don't know, maybe because they have a dam.
[0:20] I don't know. All right. So I signed this there.
[0:24] I think that's all I did.
[0:25] And we'll be watching you Gary do the big show soon.
[0:34] So approval of the agenda, I thought in a new business we do the comments
[0:40] walk through so I thought we would just run through our meeting and then do
[0:45] the comments walk through and we can adjourn at the airy gardens over by the
[0:53] school. I can tell you. I want to walk all the way back here. No that will be done.
[1:00] I
[1:01] for you, Tom.
[1:04] So any other comments about the agenda other than that one?
[1:11] So would someone make a
[1:13] motion to approve the agenda? Second.
[1:18] Second. All in favor? And now for the fun part.
[1:31] Our new
[1:32] not to go. Not to go. That's not too bad. All right take it away. And if you want to come
[1:41] over here. Thank you. It's up here so it's recorded about
[1:57] a raise your right hand for me.
[1:58] I guess you said. And then I, your name, you solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the
[2:03] United States and the State of Minnesota. I am not to go. Do solemnly swear that I will support the
[2:09] the Constitution of the United States and of the State of Minnesota.
[2:13] And faithfully discharge the duties of the Office of Parks and Recreation Commission
[2:17] for the City of Excelsior. And faithfully discharge
[2:22] the duties of the Office and the Parks and Recreation Commission
[2:26] of the City of Excelsior. In the County of the State of Minnesota
[2:30] to the best of my judgment and ability. In the County of
[2:39] Thank you. Thank you.
[2:47] Thank you.
[2:48] Thank you. Thank you.
[2:48] You can restrain your seat. Thank you.
[2:52] Wow.
[2:54] Right. Thank you.
[2:55] We're here to come.
[2:58] We're here to come.
[2:59] We're here to come.
[2:59] We're here to come.
[3:00] All right.
[3:04] Minutes from proceeding meeting.
[3:06] Any comments or concerns?
[3:09] A good July meeting.
[3:12] I'm going to do a full list of it.
[3:13] Second.
[3:14] it.
[3:16] All in favor? All in good. Citizen reports or comments? Gary, did you want to get back up and visit? Got anything for us? No, I don't have really anything for you guys. I want to have some questions for us or anything that you want to talk about from the council level that you're curious about. But other than that, you know we're just really excited to
[3:44] see the comments progress and what we're kind of coming at with that from the
[3:49] directions with that and I know early as on the kind of reporting to us but
[3:53] otherwise if you guys have any questions for us as to the direction that you
[3:58] might be confused with I think you've seen that you want to talk about I know there's
[4:05] been that probably kind of comes under your to review the agreement
[4:11] show me say between us and the roadie for concerts in the commons is ending it
[4:15] is sunsetting at the end of this year so we are having some discussions council
[4:20] wide to see kind of what we're going to assemble to go and renegotiate
[4:24] that that contract so that's kind of the only thing I know that's really
[4:30] brewing the is there a feeling that rotary won't be continuing or I don't think
[4:36] there's a feeling about that I think there's just a feeling of the initial
[4:41] So contract is up, it was way more successful than I think anybody ever anticipated.
[4:48] So I think there'll be some talks about what is fair as far as funding and all that sort
[4:56] of stuff and what we get out of it as a city for what we put in.
[5:01] So I think there'll be some discussion, you know, there'll be those hard kind of discussions
[5:05] about that.
[5:05] Okay.
[5:06] I don't anticipate any. I don't anticipate any changes in the number of concerts and that sort of thing
[5:13] I just think it'll be talking about the funding and how that's going to be
[5:17] Okay, all right, very good. Does anybody have any questions for Gary?
[5:25] What had how long is the rotary?
[5:28] How long have we had that contract just a year? No, I think this three years is a three year. Yeah, correct. Yeah, Tom. I think you're right. It's been I
[5:35] That would be your institutional knowledge, so.
[5:42] I'm on the role of real estate.
[5:46] I had a comment about the mini master plan and the playground design.
[5:52] I was on the small group or the pack and I was really fun.
[6:00] I really enjoyed the ideas and I thought was really neat.
[6:05] in the group we're working with did a good job.
[6:09] I just want to, I'm no longer part of it,
[6:12] but I'm passionate that we have a playground
[6:14] that's entertaining for the kids
[6:18] and not just cool for the adults to look at.
[6:22] So there's, it kind of goes either way in my mind
[6:26] and I just want, I hold counsel,
[6:30] kind of appreciate that it is for the kids
[6:32] and not just for the adults that think it looks like.
[6:37] No, I think that's the beauty behind the plan that you got.
[6:40] Everybody's been working on too, though.
[6:42] It's just created different sections in there
[6:45] that apply to different age groups, right?
[6:48] I mean, you kind of got the hammock area where my anticipation is,
[6:51] we're going to have a lot of teens
[6:52] and that sort of stuff coming out right
[6:54] where the playground isn't where they're going to hang out.
[6:57] I just think there's been a lot of thought
[6:59] put into making sure these groups
[7:01] which kind of each have their place to go and do what they want to do freely.
[7:06] And so I think that's good with that.
[7:09] I have a little neighbor kid Oscar who reminds me every day that when are we going to get a playground
[7:16] and mom had convinced him that I had apparently, and they used me specifically,
[7:23] because that's how this works in this job, but that I had bought the school building instead of building.
[7:30] So I was in a little bit of hot water with the seven-year-old for a while.
[7:35] Yeah, I bet that's pretty good.
[7:39] The other thing that I think that I don't know where we were at with that coming,
[7:43] but we have a men's turning club come quite a few times or two or three times
[7:48] and they really want to put a statue somewhere.
[7:51] They presented like different ideas and their statuary.
[8:00] We're going to walk through when we walk through the comments, today we'll look at the
[8:05] gardens and see if we think there's a spot for that because again, we don't want to
[8:11] get cluttered up.
[8:15] Some people know we have some council members that are very concerned about that sort of
[8:20] thing.
[8:20] I mean, it's a really good point in her letter, I thought.
[8:24] Yeah, so we just need to be thoughtful about that and we'll do a walkthrough.
[8:29] Today, we'll talk about that.
[8:32] But yeah, other than that, like I said, if you have...
[8:35] Yeah, I mean, like I said, I'm excited for us to get going with this common stuff.
[8:38] I mean, there'll be...
[8:40] There's other issues financially and stuff that we're all talking about.
[8:43] High level.
[8:44] I mean, it's on-part is watching you guys get this stuff so we can have it look like
[8:48] The ball field and everything else, that's what is very happy about you know.
[8:53] There's some fire pits I think is really cool and I really wanted to see the teens have
[8:58] something to do down there because we have a ton of teenagers walking around, they don't
[9:02] have anywhere to go.
[9:03] That's been a big, for like Ann Vogel, that's a huge factor with her is she's very focused
[9:09] on what are we doing to help the teens because you know like I say I think everybody's done
[9:15] a great job of balancing all that was having these areas where the different age groups
[9:19] can congregate.
[9:20] Yeah.
[9:21] And do that.
[9:22] And I think my beef with the playground is sort of for the littler kids, you know, the
[9:30] six to tween or even younger, but some of the equipment was more traditional where you
[9:38] have more options, you know, with monkey bars, and then there were the taller structures
[9:48] that were more of a climb-up slide down, which to me seems kind of boring, but any who
[9:56] says, you're here.
[9:59] I'm going to go through the processes for that, obviously, so there's, you know, I mean,
[10:03] I get a fair amount of community input to me about it, about what's going on there, and
[10:09] people suggesting things and, you know, a couple of them. There's a process, you know,
[10:15] where the council literally is only one part of this process. There's a lot of other
[10:19] people that are playing into it too, so. Yeah, good. Cool. I know this is not, there's
[10:25] outside of the park and wreck purview at one minute or less, I need, like, the
[10:30] Haskell situation, the Pizza Hut situation and pump situation, any
[10:36] Reef where we're at with that. So I'm gonna start with 10 water street 26 water, whichever one you want to talk about
[10:44] So Monday night we have the
[10:47] Kind of show we call it the revotor actually the affirmation of the bullet that we kind of did the straw poll on a on the last meeting
[10:55] to
[10:56] overturn the
[11:01] It's preservation commissions
[11:03] You know just approve of it. So we have that coming on Monday
[11:07] we'll see where that goes. The house goals thing we at the last
[11:14] council meeting the the pharaohs are actually here and so we asked a few
[11:19] little questions they but we haven't seen anything at the city yet from them
[11:23] but we are in constant communication with them and trying to make sure that this
[11:29] doesn't fall through the cracks that things happen as quickly as government can
[11:34] a lot of them to happen. So we're working through that. There's a lot of ideas. I know there's
[11:40] a lot of rumors floating around out there too and I'm not going to add to them but I know they've
[11:46] been communication with us and we've told them to kind of show us what they really want to do
[11:54] and let's try and work even if some things don't seem like they fit. Let's at least talk about it
[12:00] because maybe there is some options
[12:02] that we can create a structure there
[12:05] that is really nice and works for everything.
[12:08] And I think last I heard that they were still
[12:12] getting insurance details.
[12:14] There's not a lot with that going on.
[12:16] There's still a lot with the demolition part of it
[12:18] that they're still working for Indian parades.
[12:21] And so that's kind of clunging some stuff up.
[12:26] There's not just one person
[12:28] and we're dealing with, they have a family,
[12:29] so everybody kind of also within the family
[12:31] has some ideas as to where they like this to go.
[12:34] So there's just a lot of stuff,
[12:36] and like I said, there's a lot of rumors,
[12:38] but we're on top of what we're watching,
[12:40] and we haven't seen any plans of the city yet,
[12:42] and when we do, I'm sure everybody will know about it.
[12:44] So as far as 300 water streets,
[12:48] so that the Davis building area that we'll pump
[12:50] or whatever we want to refer to it as,
[12:53] they are going to age, you can see this month with proposal.
[12:58] It's kind of the same one that they've kind of
[13:00] preliminary been through before with all of this.
[13:03] It's just now they actually have some formal plans.
[13:06] So that will be coming forward.
[13:08] And hopefully we can have something moving forward
[13:10] there relatively quickly, because their preliminary
[13:13] is everybody was on board with, so I don't see any real
[13:16] big problems with trying to move this along.
[13:19] It was just a matter of getting the developer and everybody
[13:22] kind of understanding what we needed as a city
[13:26] to work with the application itself.
[13:30] Okay.
[13:32] Gary, on Haskell's, some of it is still standing as your sense
[13:36] that they're going to try and build around that, man.
[13:39] That's the, you know, carrying everybody's point.
[13:43] There's some insurance things that they're still working through.
[13:45] Some inventory, everything in that building out is because it was on a fire
[13:48] is becoming insurance casualty.
[13:51] And there's a lot of product in there.
[13:52] And so they've got to count all that.
[13:54] They've got to, you know, make sure that their books all match and everything like that since it's alcohol
[14:00] State also comes into play because there's, you know, the alcohol tax will labels on them. Those all literally have to be accounted for
[14:08] So it's a process and it's, you know, like I said, everybody's trying to move as fast as government can and we all know what night
[14:15] You know, I share with people. I'm not happy about how slow this one was either, but it has its purpose.
[14:22] Great. Anything anybody else?
[14:25] Yes, I think here.
[14:27] Thanks.
[14:27] Have a great meeting.
[14:28] Enjoy the walkthrough.
[14:30] Yes.
[14:31] Thank you.
[14:31] All right.
[14:34] Unfinished business.
[14:35] Do you have anything to add there, Kevin?
[14:39] No.
[14:41] Okay.
[14:42] And then we're going to skip to communications and reports.
[14:46] Kevin, do you want to give us a little update on the many master plan of playground design?
[14:53] Yeah, so Gary kind of touched on it already but so Bolton and Meg has been working kind of coming up with a fine
[15:00] Nice presentation to bring to council, and so that is actually going to council on Monday for their first, hopefully, approving, or, you know, to look at it and potentially a pre-work to come back in modifications or whatever it might be. So that will be the first. But it's pretty sitting pretty well, right? But all this survey stuff now we're done with that, right? Yeah, yeah. The pack is completed. For now, we've done all the communications.
[15:29] the engagement and all surveys.
[15:32] So I mean, the document, the final full document
[15:35] is like 235 pages of information with all the meeting
[15:39] minutes from all the PAC meetings in addition
[15:42] to like their presentation, kind of a final report on the project.
[15:48] Is that available online?
[15:50] It will be once it goes into the packet.
[15:53] This is the Delta packet, released on Thursday.
[15:58] okay thank you upcoming events we've got a concert on the following dates the
[16:08] suburbs are Wednesday right yeah I'm a little 19th and rumors and dreams or
[16:17] something on the classics you're so good remembering that and then of course
[16:22] There's cinnamon in the comments.
[16:24] Have you seen a flyer for that?
[16:27] I haven't.
[16:28] No?
[16:28] All right.
[16:29] Well, they're out there.
[16:30] But there's a lot more.
[16:32] Well, maybe I've seen something in social.
[16:34] Oh, probably.
[16:35] How do you do that?
[16:36] We pass some out and we have some more to do.
[16:41] But if Kevin can get you guys some of you, you need him.
[16:44] I saw the perks item.
[16:47] What's that?
[16:48] What's that?
[16:49] I said, they had it on the bulletin board.
[16:51] Oh, yeah.
[16:52] Yeah, and they have a sandwich board. I liked the sandwich point. I said it's awesome. Yeah, it looks really good
[16:58] People that we want to come is that people that are walking through the park. Yeah, yeah, that's huge. So if anybody wants to
[17:06] Get any and pass them out. I did some residences, but my
[17:11] Neighbors, but my foot was acting up. So
[17:16] Was unable to get my daughter really pumped up about going on?
[17:19] their own. So if anybody wants to hand any out, that'd be great, especially on the other
[17:25] side of the 19.
[17:29] My wife's going to help me pass them out probably tomorrow.
[17:32] All right, we were doing like under the rug, you know, the door, in the door, you know,
[17:39] then at least they know it's nice weather. All right.
[17:45] I think the only challenge there is whether right now it's 80% chance of rain at 8 o'clock
[17:53] for Ponsaturday when I check before I'm eating so if we need to cancel, it's probably
[18:00] going to be a day of decision, I think the next one is wet and the grass.
[18:05] Yeah, so the rental company likes to wait until the morning of the day for us to make the final
[18:11] call.
[18:12] So then it'll be like a rescheduled, so then we'll have to figure out another date.
[18:16] How did they communicate that?
[18:18] What's that?
[18:18] How is it communicated?
[18:20] Yeah, we've got to kind of figure that out, whether it's a text alert on the website,
[18:25] you know, I would probably do something on the sandwich boards in the park, like a red sign
[18:30] or something like that.
[18:32] I mean, you have to get the word out.
[18:33] Yeah, rescheduled, you know, kind of this date, something like that.
[18:37] But still kind of work in progress as we kind of figure out if we need to reschedule.
[18:42] And I'm assuming we would maybe all get an email on that or could you send us a
[18:46] call? Yeah, for reschedule, for sure, really, but it might not be until
[18:52] Saturday morning when I make the call. So carry on the subject of the other side of
[18:58] 19. Yes. A number of complaints from residents up their long way of
[19:03] street and Glencoe about the stench coming out of Studer Park. It is so bad. We
[19:08] We walked by there and I'm like, probably because there's no rain.
[19:11] No, I'd say under stutter pond that the shorthand where the drainage first comes in,
[19:17] it's solid duct lead, and it gets anoxic when it happens, and then you get hydrant and
[19:22] self-light produced, and we've got to figure out a way to get some of that made real power.
[19:27] You put it over there?
[19:28] Like it is awful.
[19:29] Yeah.
[19:30] It's pretty bad.
[19:31] I would call it.
[19:31] I think that's a Tim.
[19:33] I talked to Tim about it.
[19:34] It's a little formally, but we didn't talk about what to do about it.
[19:38] I have some ideas, but I would have said up a meeting with Tim.
[19:43] You do that.
[19:45] All right.
[19:46] I'll do that.
[19:46] Get that.
[19:47] John is a pretty serious leader over there.
[19:49] Like, we literally, we walk by once and I was like, that is awful.
[19:51] We walk by again.
[19:52] And I'm like, I don't know how many people look here.
[19:54] Like, literally, it is that bad.
[19:56] Wouldn't rain help it or not, really?
[19:58] Well, rain might help a little bit, but you really got to get that vegetation off of there.
[20:03] It's just a solid coating of it.
[20:05] I'm going to be visiting a city Bloomington has an engineer that has been working on that
[20:10] in their plans and they're testing a couple of methods actually this Thursday and he invited
[20:16] me to come out and watch and see how they're doing to get some idea of cost.
[20:23] Very good.
[20:23] Yeah, I didn't know that.
[20:26] It's pretty cool.
[20:27] Honestly, it is like, it's really terrible like it's maybe take a drive over there or maybe
[20:34] Let me just take his word more, because that's what I'm talking about.
[20:37] So which end?
[20:38] Which end?
[20:39] Where about is it?
[20:40] Towards the end.
[20:41] Well, you know, when you come down way of street dining and you turn right on to Glenco,
[20:45] and then right on the bend there is where it's really worse, because that's right at the
[20:49] end of that short section of the pond.
[20:53] Okay.
[20:53] And that's where it's worse.
[20:57] I've never heard that before, but.
[20:59] Well, one of the neighbors, my cameraman was last name, anyway, he said that he's
[21:06] He had heard that there had been a minor sewage drain problem that had caused some temporary
[21:14] backup into that, but I don't really think that's what it is, but you know, people are
[21:19] starting rumored, so it would be nice if they can.
[21:23] So, at least it's on the other side of the tracks.
[21:27] Yep.
[21:27] Ha!
[21:29] Can you hear me?
[21:31] Just kidding.
[21:32] Wow.
[21:33] Alright now we're just kidding.
[21:36] She's joking like a cross-zone.
[21:38] Thank you.
[21:40] It's a long-standing kind of joke.
[21:43] I do it.
[21:43] I agree.
[21:45] Kevin, we need a point person for the movie.
[21:49] I had said I would do it, but I've got some more stuff going on in my life than I did when
[21:56] I volunteered.
[21:56] does anybody else want to do it or think they'll be there? What is it in
[22:01] tail? I mean for this first event I'll at least be there for you know if
[22:05] someone wants to like I'll be there to make sure it all goes off to start with
[22:10] to make sure that they have vendors there they have the DVD everything set up
[22:15] and then we start everything like that but that's pretty simple like fire department
[22:20] somebody's there to talk to you yeah fire might come to inspect the screen and the
[22:26] chords and everything like that, just pin them down and it's like a really simple process.
[22:30] But if anybody's interested in like, you know, being an on-site person for who?
[22:35] I plan to be there, but if something goes wrong, I'm assuming somebody else is planning on
[22:42] going.
[22:44] I'll be there, but I'm going to have three grandkids with me, so I'll be good for nothing.
[22:49] Nothing should happen, but all right, I'll plan to be the point person and if I, if you're
[22:56] going to be there first then that's probably good enough but I'll be there okay all right um
[23:04] but you guys should go it is it's it's kind of fun it's a little nostalgic hopefully it doesn't
[23:10] rain and it's dark enough but it'll be fun you could see it from your place but I plan to be there
[23:17] but you guys don't know, not super supportive of taking on the taxpayer dollars.
[23:23] Well, another jab.
[23:26] Another jab.
[23:29] July financials.
[23:30] We just kind of look at these and since
[23:36] we don't...
[23:38] Yeah, we just look at the numbers.
[23:43] We look good.
[23:46] Yes.
[23:47] They look like numbers.
[23:48] All right.
[23:49] Nice roll.
[23:52] So then pretty healthy account balance. What did you guys have in your account over in
[23:57] where were you in?
[23:58] Sioux Falls, right?
[24:00] Not in Sioux Falls, yeah. Quite a bit more, but I mean it's a 200,000 plus people, so.
[24:06] Yeah, it's a bigger city.
[24:07] It's a big city.
[24:08] I mean, it's the biggest city in South Dakota, so.
[24:10] Oh, yeah.
[24:11] Okay. Over the solar here collecting our pennies.
[24:14] Well, I took a look at it. It's good, it's good for this size.
[24:17] It's usually about what we have.
[24:19] It seems like any other comments, miscellaneous portion,
[24:27] or we head out on our walk.
[24:29] It's a game plan.
[24:32] So we were going to meet down at the corner where you'd
[24:39] park along the beach before you get to the roundabout.
[24:42] Just meet down there in the corner,
[24:44] and then we'll walk through.
[24:45] I think we just get to make a grocery list of stuff.
[24:51] Like the Savannah Gardens, we're going to look at that and then we'll look at the gardens
[24:57] for the statuary and we can just talk.
[25:01] And we have a park bench up on top because for those benches, the more the bench has
[25:07] got approved from City Council that we've talked about last month.
[25:10] Oh, yeah, yeah.
[25:10] And then so we do have one that's like a
[25:13] Benchop right now that we can
[25:15] If you guys want to make kind of final placement decision what when where the memorial bench will be placed
[25:20] Up there right now. Can we also just throw out a little pet ideas or projects?
[25:26] Sure, maybe look at the future. Oh, yeah
[25:29] So you can charge and make an old
[25:33] Back I
[25:36] Did we contact those families? Is that what you're in charge of?
[25:40] The like Nicole McNaughty also see for see
[25:46] Community for the commons is like the go-between God they deal directly with the donor
[25:51] And so they also work the order of the benches and get the plaque information
[25:58] Kind of get it sent to public works. We assemble it put it out. So I think it is like
[26:03] Five to seven week of like production time before and even ships. So they take a while to get here
[26:11] And then when we get over by at the end where the port is we'll cross and go down to the
[26:17] area, the gazebo area gardens.
[26:22] And that's where we can adjourn if that sounds good to everybody.
[26:27] And I'm going to have my little niece scooter because my foot's been acting up and I still
[26:32] want to walk that far and we'll be set back, just really irritated. Alright, so we'll
[26:39] see you guys know where we're going. Straight down the block, right? Yep, you're
[26:52] watching
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