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Think you have a letter Jenner, so we'll do a roll call.

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We'll go around

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mark Layton.

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I'm the chair of the committee.

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Dan short trans select board rep to.

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Facilities advisory committee, Rob Coron member.

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Melissa Roy assistant town manager.

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Carol I'm SI.

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And you'll have to be a voting

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alternate to their voting voting.

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I don't think we have anything to vote actually, but we'll see.

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So we, we do not have.

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Minutes from June.

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What'd you spend we're discussing that.

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So we'll.

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Regroup on that.

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So we'll jump in.

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So updates on the police, fire substation.

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There's a nice article, I think a couple weeks ago.

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Yeah, on that.

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So it's very.

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Exciting.

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I got to walk through yesterday, our construction team or our sort of building

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team.

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Walks through the site every Tuesday.

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And then we have multiple meetings, you know, in between there.

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But

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we are potentially looking at substantial completion by the end of the year,

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maybe January.

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Not we're sort of trending in that direction.

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Some of the things that are holding.

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That up

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are,

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are siding system is a specialized siding system.

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That's gonna go on top of the CMU block.

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So there's a little delay in that.

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And then.

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We're expecting our generator on site.

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I think it's November 1st.

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But, I mean the second floor.

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Has, and it's not all completed, but it has drywall there's sections that have

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carpet.

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There's windows that are in.

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They're putting it stuff in.

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I mean, we're.

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In a pretty good spot.

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I believe the elevator is starting the.

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First week in October, I believe cuz we talked about getting furniture in.

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The end of October, beginning of November, maybe depending on where we stand there

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We've got a commissioning.

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Agent gunning going there.

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They

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the project.

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I think you guys remember, I had told you that we scaled the project

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down so that we could beat the budget

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and.

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That the solar canopy in the back was going to be added, not added

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but we'll see if we could, you know, afford it, making sure we had

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enough contingencies.

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So we moved forward that fantastic, which is very exciting, cuz it will fit

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I think it's 12 or 15 of the cruisers, which it's not a garage

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or anything, but at least, you know, it's been a snowstorm.

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They're not, you know, getting a few.

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Feet of still.

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So that's very exciting.

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We were able to

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we originally had to remove a section of the parking lot because we didn't

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think we were gonna be able to afford it.

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And it was just gonna be a grass and area.

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And we were.

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Able to bring that back.

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So that's very exciting.

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What else?

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I'm trying to think of when I was going through the building.Yes.

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So with that, the.

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Site contractor held the paving cost.

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Considering with what's going on with oil and everything else.

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Yes.

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You can imagine.

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That's yep.

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So they're actually grading it yesterday.

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And I think that the paving for that is gonna be the end of

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September.

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I'm sorry.

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I should have brought my, no, it's my calendar.

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It's.

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Good.

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So we're thinking

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that they're gonna be moving in, you know, December early January, there is a

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small chance that it could be earlier than that, but I don't want to

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get everybody too.

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Excited, just

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my luck, something would happen.

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And then, you know, I'd tell you guys that, but that is what we're

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doing.

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We're talking about, you know, snow removal, planning, custodial planning, cuz we're talking, you

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know, budget for next year.

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What are we doing with that?

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What else?

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I think there's a small delay in some of the fire furniture.

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But again, it's still gonna be like October, November.

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So I don't, I don't think that's going to affect a move-in date.

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Yeah, it's it's, it's pretty exciting.

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I, so they're gonna do a dry run or a shake out before we

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were just talking about that.

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We haven't officially decided.

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But yeah, I think we're gonna probably the biggest.

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In, not an issue, but I guess the biggest planning of it is dispatch

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And we have a console dispatch here, here.

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I always do this wrong here.

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And like, do you flip the switch of that off before you do a

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dry run?

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You know, we want this up and running before we turn this off.

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So we're talking about some of that timing.

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We this, we weren't thinking we were getting into the building until March.

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So we've already accelerated earlier than we had thought.

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So these.

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Plans we thought would be right around the time.

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We'd be deciding this and.

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So we're sort of figuring some of that out.

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Do we keep both consoles online for two months or, you know,

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that's the stuff we're kind of working on right now.

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So you have to run the parallel.

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Yeah.

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Lifesaving stuff.

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Yeah.

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So.

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No matter what happens.

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We have rock county in an emergency, but we're, you know, off of obviously

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trying not to do that, but they would be on standby as we.

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You know, turn things on and off just in case, but.

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I'm trying to think of what else.

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I'm in my head going through the building in the different rooms, but yeah

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so I bathrooms I've got.

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Flooring in the bathrooms we've got showers are in.

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They're waiting on some petitions for the bathrooms and the showers.

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So where we we're doing yet, it's like board approved all the furnishings and

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yep.

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We office equipment.

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We'll be, yep.

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We're gonna be coming back to the select.

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Board for a few more FF and E things.

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So we have to outfit the gym.

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There's a small.

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Fitness area in there.

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So we need to order the gym equipment, but the.

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Timeline for that.

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We didn't have to quite order it as, as.

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As early as some of the office furniture.

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So in the next hours we'll be doing that.

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Decorations for the walls.

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The police chief is looking at.

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Doing sort of like a vinyl.

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History of like timeline of, you know, exer police department, not, not anything expensive

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So there were some of those little FFF E things.

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That will be coming to the board for, but.

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Yeah.Some great definite ideas about yeah.

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Turning the building into a recruiting advantage.

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Yeah.

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Which is wonderful.

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Cause recruiting is.

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And retention on that and they're gonna be

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naming the building and you'll hear this in.

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Gosh, I don't want say his name wrong, but officer Coleson.

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Is the only officer Exeter.

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Police officer have lost his life in the line of duty.

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And so they will be naming the building.

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After officer.

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So that will be on there.

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And you'll see a big thing about that.

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Fire department is

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obviously thrilled

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to have.

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I think we were talking yesterday, this is in draft form, but we were

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talking cuz you know, we're gonna have to name the facilities, different things.

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So calling this fire headquarters and calling that station two instead of substation.

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So we're working out some of that.

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Yeah, it's it's knock on wood.

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We have contingency left.

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As of

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what date is this in August.

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So.

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Yeah, that's awesome.

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You're doing well.

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Yeah.

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I'm very excited.

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I will say this.

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Rather than getting a design.

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Specs bidding out, having us have the ability to kind of.

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Design it to the budget that we had.

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Was was great.

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Yeah.

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Will it work for every building?

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I can't say

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cuz obviously we had to scale it down pretty significantly when we got the

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net.

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Zero

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requirement on the floor at deliberative, but it was, it was a really.

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It's been a really nice project to work on.

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Yeah.

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That's great.

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That's good.

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That's wonderful.

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It's one.

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They gotta keep making sure it gets the pressed.

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Cause it's a, it's a good story to tell.

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Yeah.

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It's, you know,

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the first year or two, you're like, oh, I hope that not, I hope

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this works.

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I'm sort of joking, but you know, but now you're getting a little bit

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closer and you're like, oh yes, yes.

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That's, you know, it's a really, you can't touch that contingency.

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And now we're getting to the point where like, alright, maybe we're doing okay

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but we'll see.

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Yeah.

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Why don't you guys want.

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Six months from now, when it's done you, you should do a little lessons

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learned about the way that it was done.

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And I also told the chiefs, I said, listen, we're not spending all of

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Yeah.

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not that we would spend it to spend it, but you're gonna get in

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that building and you're gonna be there for a month or two, and you're

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gonna.

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Go. Oh, we forgot something.

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Mm-hmm yeah, for sure.

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So,

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everybody take a breath until we really know, like all the systems are working

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the right way and all the, you know, all the commissioning is done.

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So.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, no, that is that's smart.

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Yeah.

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But also for you'll have a warranty buried as you should have a warranty

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buried with the contract.

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Like you said, things that are out of their scope that you'd like to

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have.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Unless you're there, it's easier.

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To, to figure that out.

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So

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good.

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Any questions for no sounds?

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Yeah, it's very exciting.

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It's great.

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Extra public library.

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Usually Dawn handles that.

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So I don't think we have anything to talk about unless you guys have

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any information to share.

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I know.

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I can just, just from working with Julia, with budget and everything, they're gonna

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be coming

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to

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the BRC.

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For their $25,000 building maintenance capital reserve fund, which is building up money for

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The pieces.

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I think Julia has come and explained to you that part of that building

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was kept original.

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She's got different issues over there with H V a C and her elevator

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And, and a few things

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insulation underneath.

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And it's not an overhang, but you know, when you drive under there's like

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floor there, there's some insulation issues there.

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So I know that the library is.

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Trying to do better at being proactive to, to get money ready.

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Before something catastrophic happens.

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And I know that Julia and Don have been working.

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With the

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commissioning agent, they got back from the original project.

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Because they were having H P C issues.

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So I don't, I know they're not fixed, but they're trying to confirm the

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issues.

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And I know Don was working on.

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That.

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So

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he's recording.

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Yeah.

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That's another story to tell people too, is that obviously that budget got cut

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a number of times.

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And the reality is, is that over time you're gonna spend the money.

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Anyways.

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So the reality is, is that.

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We, we, we cut.

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We cut.

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We cut.

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And then next thing you know, we've got a building that doesn't have proper

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H V a C it's got insulation issues.

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It.

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It's got other things.

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So it's,

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it's the other side of the coin, which is

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it's.

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It's good to be on budget, but.

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Be careful that we don't that's we focus on the new work and not

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the, not the, yeah.

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I think that's what, you know, if you like many things is it's really

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what.

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People focus on they'll focus on going back and recommissioning and, and making the

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two systems

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align.

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And then.

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You know, the idea is you get a huge portion of that building, which

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is sitting in an overhang that.

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Is

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yeah.

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Was it done right in Clement air, in Clement weather?

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And

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it was, it was for us.

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And I can't speak to the library and everybody has different processes and, and

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different times in which they were doing projects, but for us,

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we had had sort of a deadline of saying, okay,

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do we have to cut this project to the point where it's not gonna

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function for the community for now and until the next 15 or 20 years

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because it doesn't do any good.

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To build a building that instantly doesn't work.

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And we were very cognizant, at least in this building to say,

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if we get close to that point, then we need to go back to

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the warrant.

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We're not gonna just try to build what we can.

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It has to

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function.

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The way the voters thought it would function.

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That's not to say that we would be like a hundred percent perfect, but

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I think we've got it to the point where it is scaled down.

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You'll go through it.

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I think you'll, you'll see the rooms are not gigantic.

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Gigantic.They're very

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very modest.

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Office spaces like, but they all function.

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Everybody has a space, whereas the other people don't have it.

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And then we worked on the H V a C portion.

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Portions, not the apparatus bay, cuz it's.

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It's almost impossible.

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If you have a firetruck going in and out and you are opening, it'd

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be like taking the sides if you're building off suddenly over and over again

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But the main.

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Part of your building.

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That has a, an envelope, a working building envelope is net zero.

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So.

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Yeah, but it is, it's a bummer because I do, I know the library

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Was so, oh, it's good.

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And I, and I think that lesson learned would be something as you get

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projects that are, you know,

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not completely parallel, but relatively close to each other.

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Is what went well and when didn't go well on another guys, actually reviews

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are very instructive

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and sadly, they don't get done a lot of times.

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No exactly.

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That's that's it.

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And he's

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was on this one is that you guys had a construction manager involved during

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the design, right?

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So you checking.

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So going back to that process.

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So we had the.

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Construction manager.

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And we had the architect and the town working together at the same time

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saying.

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This is the budget and this is only the budget.

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So if we can't make the design work with some contingency and we were

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nervous because our contingency is.

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Was not.

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And I think I came here and told you that our contingency was not

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what we would consider would be industry standard.

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Good.

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And so we were a little nervous about that, but we worked really hard

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to say no, cause there were a lot of really great ideas that would've

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been beautiful and awesome.

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And.

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We had to say no.

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But that process of getting the construction manager.

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And the architect and all of us at the same time, the other piece

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of it for us.

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I will, I have to give a, a shout out to Paul Lasic, our

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town engineer.

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So Paul Lasic is actually a retired town engineer.

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And took on one, this project, as one of the projects, we brought him

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back in a part-time facility as a part-time capacity.

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And he was a fantastic lead for our building town construction team.

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Mm-hmm and sort of guided us through.

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And he was instrumental and we're very lucky to have had him.

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So I think he had a lot of people at the table.

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Not so much that it got mucked up.

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Cuz that can happen too, but you had a lot of people all talking

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at the same time during the entire process, which was really nice.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I think that's.

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That's not to tutor or anything, but I think that that was this committee

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we had asked so way back, right.

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Was to have, that was the intent.

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Yeah, it was to have somebody the.

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First person, the first company didn't work out and you guys.

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Yeah.

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So, but, but the idea of that was to have, was not to have

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to have to have the captain, the chief of police.

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Yes.

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Have to be the one you do.

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You want a little separation there, right?

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Mm-hmm so that it was fantastic.

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Yeah.

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So you have somebody that doesn't have anything to gain on this, but is

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helping.

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To manage the process and not.

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Not not creating scope creep.

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I think the other thing is that, I mean, this happens all the time

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You have a program you prioritize, right.

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There's things that are just, you just have to.

433
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Have your core program, right?

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And then you have things that are a little more flexible.

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So you guys learn that you have there's you get to a point and

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there's it's this.

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It's not worth the project if we can't

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continue.

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So.

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That's also important is identify like what is, what is the must have, and

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then the nice to have.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you guys are gonna see the building pretty soon.

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If you haven't driven by.

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00:21:26,867 --> 00:21:29,033
It looks terrible because the siding isn't up, but.

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It is not it's, it's a police station.

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It's not

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most exciting looking.

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It looks exciting,

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you know, or anything like that upon where it's.

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And what it is, I think.

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Exactly.

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So that was.

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To your point.

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If we were building this downtown, we would not that that would absolutely not

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but we knew we were in an industrial area of town.

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So it was.

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We were able to save some money on the outside of the building, still

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looking professional.

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And appropriate

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and put it to function.

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But yeah, some people may drive by and be like, oh man.

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But

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it, it is a wonderful building and it does look, it will look very

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nice.

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But yeah,

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exactly.

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I think majority of it's.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And the fact that the police are out circulating.

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They're not exactly they're there.

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Yeah.

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So.

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It's all, it's all gonna work very well.

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Jumping back to the library.

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Excuse me, the 25,000 per year kind of building.

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Maintenance funder.

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That was a brilliant solution to.

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Their repeated need to come.

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To the select program.

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That was Julia.

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I gotta get credit for that.

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Yeah.

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I'm very pleased about that.

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We now have an expectation.

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And they know sort of what their budget is to address their building needs

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And it's, it's really a great solution.

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And if I may, I don't know if anybody.

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Watched during the, the budget process last year, but one of the recommendations was

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that the library tried to work a little bit more collaboratively with the town

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for those of.

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You that don't know.

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I know you do, but the town is it.

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I mean, the, the libraries, its own thing.

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And I just would like to give Julia a lot of credit at the

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brand.

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A job, new director.

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She talks to Corey and I all the time, even if it's just brainstorming

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cuz we don't, we don't have any say, but she'll ask for advice.

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Or ask Jeff Beck.

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Who would you go to?

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So the communication between us and the library in the last 12 to 15

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months,

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it it's it's awesome.

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Night and day.

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And so she's in a really tough situation with her building and she's trying

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to make the best out of it.

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But.

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When, when she heard about communicating with the town, she really took that to

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heart and it has.

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Been completely different.

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And I would, I from.

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You know, somebody that tries to represent the town residence as best I can

515
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I very much appreciate it.

516
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When you say that they are their own thing, what.

517
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Referring to they have a moral trust, correct?

518
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Excuse me.

519
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And that.

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They report to that board of trustees and that's per the RSAs correct.

521
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Libraries have their separate board of trustees so that they

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can't be censored or.

523
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Coerced by a town, but it gets, it's hard in that scenario because they're

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great at programming and they're great at all the things they do in they're

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budgeting.

526
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And.

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Everything like that.

528
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But when you have such a large building,

529
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those expenses can be really hard for a library to fundraise or, or, you

530
00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:20,066
know, go to, you know, they don't have a facility manager.

531
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:21,867
On their staff.

532
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,767
And I think, I think Kathy used to help a little bit with, with

533
00:24:24,834 --> 00:24:25,000
yeah.

534
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,667
I think actually having Dawn and other people, volunteers, I mean, that's the.

535
00:24:29,133 --> 00:24:29,834
That's the benefit of

536
00:24:30,367 --> 00:24:33,900
reaching out to the community and having people, you know, participate in and help

537
00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:35,767
out with, you know, things like this is that.

538
00:24:36,667 --> 00:24:39,900
There, there are many, many people that are well there's some people that will

539
00:24:40,033 --> 00:24:41,066
willing to do it.

540
00:24:41,367 --> 00:24:41,500
.

541
00:24:42,300 --> 00:24:43,533
There are some great volunteers.

542
00:24:44,066 --> 00:24:44,166
Yeah.

543
00:24:44,467 --> 00:24:45,500
So it's been very nice.

544
00:24:45,500 --> 00:24:46,433
Anyway, do you know?

545
00:24:46,433 --> 00:24:50,033
Cause I think this was approved for all the renewal needs for the library

546
00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:50,266
data.

547
00:24:50,667 --> 00:24:54,066
Incorporated into the database for the town's facility condition.

548
00:24:54,367 --> 00:24:57,300
I will tell you, I do not know, but I will find out that

549
00:24:57,300 --> 00:24:58,667
last, last time, the budget.

550
00:24:59,066 --> 00:24:59,300
Was approved, right?

551
00:24:59,300 --> 00:25:00,367
It was, she has money.

552
00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:01,900
She had money to pay for it.

553
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,166
I think it was, oh my doubt.

554
00:25:04,133 --> 00:25:06,834
So cuz that won't help with this, you may be using.

555
00:25:07,634 --> 00:25:07,767
Some of her

556
00:25:08,333 --> 00:25:09,066
building maintenance.

557
00:25:09,133 --> 00:25:09,300
Yeah.

558
00:25:09,934 --> 00:25:12,300
Do you remember who was, who somehow there was money that, and there was

559
00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:13,166
gonna go forward with it.

560
00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:15,333
So, yeah, cause it was rolling her.

561
00:25:16,033 --> 00:25:17,133
Assets into the bureau Veritas, right?

562
00:25:17,300 --> 00:25:17,567
Yes.

563
00:25:17,634 --> 00:25:18,066
Yes, sir.

564
00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:19,333
That was just help with this.

565
00:25:19,433 --> 00:25:19,767
Yeah.

566
00:25:20,767 --> 00:25:23,533
A way justifying the 25,000, but also how to spend the 25,000 mm-hmm

567
00:25:24,567 --> 00:25:24,634
25,000.

568
00:25:24,634 --> 00:25:25,567
So I will find out for you.

569
00:25:26,166 --> 00:25:26,533
Okay.

570
00:25:27,433 --> 00:25:30,500
And the great thing about that is there's a lot of transparency to that

571
00:25:31,233 --> 00:25:31,266
Yeah.

572
00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:36,033
So it's not a sometimes kind of felt like things were shifting around.

573
00:25:36,767 --> 00:25:38,266
Because we don't get those direct reports.

574
00:25:39,233 --> 00:25:40,033
At the select board wall.

575
00:25:40,033 --> 00:25:41,634
Cause they have their board trustees.

576
00:25:41,667 --> 00:25:43,634
So yeah, having it in that.

577
00:25:44,867 --> 00:25:45,500
Database is,

578
00:25:46,066 --> 00:25:47,066
is very transparent.

579
00:25:48,033 --> 00:25:49,300
Yeah, I will get an update for you guys.

580
00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:49,533
Okay.

581
00:25:50,133 --> 00:25:51,100
Bring that to the next one.

582
00:25:53,834 --> 00:25:56,333
Okay, next one is the space needs assessment.

583
00:25:57,133 --> 00:25:57,133
So

584
00:25:58,133 --> 00:26:00,100
bids are due September 11th.

585
00:26:00,266 --> 00:26:00,533
Wow.

586
00:26:00,734 --> 00:26:03,266
We have already had, I want, I'm gonna say this wrong.

587
00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:05,133
It's either the Turner group or oil and.

588
00:26:05,533 --> 00:26:08,033
Container and I apologize, one of them has reached out.

589
00:26:09,133 --> 00:26:12,100
And wants to participate or put in a bid.

590
00:26:12,133 --> 00:26:14,500
So we know at least one, I sent you a couple of.

591
00:26:15,834 --> 00:26:15,867
Customers.

592
00:26:15,867 --> 00:26:17,367
And I don't know if it was sent to them or not.

593
00:26:17,734 --> 00:26:19,033
I don't remember if I did that or not.

594
00:26:19,233 --> 00:26:19,567
Okay.

595
00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:21,100
If you wanna forward and we'll double check.

596
00:26:21,333 --> 00:26:21,667
Okay.

597
00:26:22,533 --> 00:26:23,834
But so bids, but.

598
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:24,333
I will tell you

599
00:26:25,433 --> 00:26:25,900
90.

600
00:26:26,667 --> 00:26:29,567
9% of the time we get bids on that day at like two o'clock

601
00:26:29,567 --> 00:26:30,100
in the afternoon.

602
00:26:30,567 --> 00:26:31,734
bids due at four.

603
00:26:31,867 --> 00:26:32,500
So I'm not.

604
00:26:33,333 --> 00:26:36,266
Too, too worried that we haven't got any official bids yet.

605
00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:38,033
Cuz that's kind of par for the course.

606
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:41,900
So we'll probably bring that to the select board and have a bid opening

607
00:26:42,033 --> 00:26:43,133
on September 14th.

608
00:26:44,166 --> 00:26:47,033
At which point they basically will say, we're gonna take the bids and forward

609
00:26:47,066 --> 00:26:48,500
onto the facilities committee.

610
00:26:49,333 --> 00:26:50,767
And we'll bring them to your.

611
00:26:51,734 --> 00:26:53,000
Would that be your September meeting?

612
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:53,900
Okay.

613
00:26:57,567 --> 00:26:58,066
That's great.

614
00:26:59,066 --> 00:27:01,033
Who's the staff side person on that.

615
00:27:01,033 --> 00:27:01,767
Would that be you?

616
00:27:02,133 --> 00:27:06,100
It is gonna be me with support of Paul Cohen and Dave, depending on what

617
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,033
we need to.

618
00:27:07,233 --> 00:27:08,500
Do or what we figure out.

619
00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:10,367
So, so the time managering, the time planner.

620
00:27:12,233 --> 00:27:12,667
Got it.

621
00:27:14,367 --> 00:27:15,000
Hi, I'm set.

622
00:27:15,233 --> 00:27:16,066
I'm also right now.

623
00:27:16,166 --> 00:27:16,533
Okay.

624
00:27:16,934 --> 00:27:19,100
And I'll take a look and see if Dave sent them out.

625
00:27:19,133 --> 00:27:21,567
Cuz I know he might have sent them out to his, a lot of

626
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:25,133
Times if we know firms will send something out and say, you know, we've

627
00:27:25,133 --> 00:27:26,033
got this RFP.

628
00:27:27,066 --> 00:27:27,367
RFP, that kind of stuff.

629
00:27:27,367 --> 00:27:28,000
I'll check

630
00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:31,033
they're women minority owned.

631
00:27:31,300 --> 00:27:33,634
I did not know if that's something the town.

632
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:37,367
Is looks for, is that diversity in that

633
00:27:38,367 --> 00:27:38,634
industry?

634
00:27:38,634 --> 00:27:39,033
We did.

635
00:27:39,033 --> 00:27:39,100
Yeah.

636
00:27:39,567 --> 00:27:40,767
It's never been that's

637
00:27:42,133 --> 00:27:42,433
no under.

638
00:27:42,867 --> 00:27:43,567
They're out of Portsmouth.

639
00:27:43,667 --> 00:27:44,033
Okay.

640
00:27:44,033 --> 00:27:46,634
So there are two of them I afforded to you.

641
00:27:46,634 --> 00:27:47,567
Yes, you've got it.

642
00:27:47,567 --> 00:27:47,867
Okay.

643
00:27:47,867 --> 00:27:48,100
Yep.

644
00:27:48,066 --> 00:27:49,266
I just forwarded to you a couple years ago.

645
00:27:49,266 --> 00:27:49,500
Perfect.

646
00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:50,266
Okay.

647
00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:50,867
Sorry about.

648
00:27:51,066 --> 00:27:51,734
That we'll make sure

649
00:27:52,367 --> 00:27:53,066
it's awesome.

650
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,767
So he should bit to do on 11th and then yep.

651
00:27:56,867 --> 00:27:58,033
The opening was on the 14th.

652
00:27:58,300 --> 00:27:58,567
Yep.

653
00:28:01,133 --> 00:28:01,300
Okay.

654
00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:04,734
I'm just sending this, you get a copy of the final part.

655
00:28:05,533 --> 00:28:05,867
Sure.

656
00:28:07,367 --> 00:28:07,734
Okay.

657
00:28:07,734 --> 00:28:08,066
Okay.

658
00:28:08,066 --> 00:28:08,100
Thank you.

659
00:28:08,433 --> 00:28:09,767
It's on the website, but I do you.

660
00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:10,166
Oh, it is.

661
00:28:10,166 --> 00:28:10,900
No, don't worry about it.

662
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:12,500
If it's on the website, I'll I'll look it up there.

663
00:28:12,533 --> 00:28:12,867
It is.

664
00:28:12,867 --> 00:28:13,000
No worries.

665
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:13,433
It's a little.

666
00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:14,767
Sometimes it is hard to find.

667
00:28:14,767 --> 00:28:17,367
So let me just tell you on the front page, let me just tell

668
00:28:17,367 --> 00:28:17,567
you.

669
00:28:18,667 --> 00:28:19,533
Where to go real quick.

670
00:28:22,634 --> 00:28:23,066
Make sure.

671
00:28:23,066 --> 00:28:23,900
I tell you the right thing.

672
00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:24,500
Hold on one second.

673
00:28:31,033 --> 00:28:31,300
So

674
00:28:36,033 --> 00:28:37,533
there are four sort of tabs on the top that say service government departmentsright.And community you're gonna go to services.

675
00:28:37,533 --> 00:28:37,867
Mm-hmm .

676
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:41,667
And then there's a link that says submit bids and RFPs, and that's gonna

677
00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:42,667
be where you find that.

678
00:28:43,066 --> 00:28:43,166
Okay.

679
00:28:47,667 --> 00:28:50,367
And I'm just sending this to Dave right now to make sure that these

680
00:28:50,367 --> 00:28:51,767
two companies get the bid.

681
00:28:52,634 --> 00:28:53,734
Okay, thank you.

682
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:54,367
No problem.

683
00:28:57,667 --> 00:28:58,033
All right.

684
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,000
Any other questions for the that's great that it's out.

685
00:29:02,767 --> 00:29:06,166
Just were there any questions Dave, as he, is he field at any.

686
00:29:07,233 --> 00:29:08,500
Not no questions yet.

687
00:29:08,767 --> 00:29:13,100
Just the interests from, and I apologize that I'm saying the, yeah, whichever one

688
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:13,333
that is.

689
00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:15,066
No not.

690
00:29:15,066 --> 00:29:16,333
I asked Dave today, so.

691
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,333
Extra train station is next.

692
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:23,300
I don't know either of you two, Don usually does do that.

693
00:29:24,166 --> 00:29:26,533
Update also, I am the select partner up to the committee.

694
00:29:27,033 --> 00:29:27,767
I can give you a quick.

695
00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:28,767
Okay.

696
00:29:28,934 --> 00:29:30,667
So we held the Shura.

697
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:31,000
Yes.

698
00:29:32,033 --> 00:29:34,333
In August the seventh and the eighth.

699
00:29:35,433 --> 00:29:36,000
It was a,

700
00:29:36,567 --> 00:29:37,667
a wild success.

701
00:29:38,667 --> 00:29:39,000
In the,

702
00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:43,567
the stakeholders meeting, I would say we had 30 to 40 people.

703
00:29:43,767 --> 00:29:44,100
Yeah.

704
00:29:44,133 --> 00:29:44,300
Yeah.

705
00:29:45,333 --> 00:29:46,634
The first, the afternoon

706
00:29:47,266 --> 00:29:49,066
public input session, there were.

707
00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:51,066
9,200 be awesome.

708
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:54,500
And then in the evening session, I would say 40 to 50.

709
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:56,533
Maybe 30 to 40.

710
00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,000
I was gonna say maybe 25, 35 there.Yeah.

711
00:29:59,033 --> 00:29:59,533
Anyway.

712
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:02,667
And then when they reported out

713
00:30:03,166 --> 00:30:03,300
Saturday,

714
00:30:03,634 --> 00:30:04,000
afternoon.

715
00:30:04,133 --> 00:30:05,367
I would say they were again,

716
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:06,100
probably.

717
00:30:07,066 --> 00:30:08,000
40 to 50 people there.

718
00:30:08,233 --> 00:30:09,133
Yeah, it was.

719
00:30:11,734 --> 00:30:12,767
To put that in perspective.

720
00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:14,900
It was a Friday night in the summer.

721
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:15,266
Yeah.

722
00:30:15,467 --> 00:30:18,567
And a Saturday afternoon in the summer on one of the warm.

723
00:30:19,066 --> 00:30:23,066
Warmest weekends and, and it was not an air conditioned change.

724
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:23,667
Yeah, I was.

725
00:30:25,066 --> 00:30:27,066
I mean, you can, you can give free food away.

726
00:30:27,233 --> 00:30:28,734
And not get as many people as we did.

727
00:30:28,767 --> 00:30:31,567
So I would really like to give a lot of credit to the train

728
00:30:31,567 --> 00:30:35,100
committee and Darren and the plan, New Hampshire team, because.

729
00:30:35,634 --> 00:30:38,133
They got people out and Bob wacky helped with it.

730
00:30:38,133 --> 00:30:41,367
So I was gonna say, T I have to say it was social media

731
00:30:41,433 --> 00:30:42,000
was really good.

732
00:30:42,133 --> 00:30:43,433
It was really exciting.

733
00:30:44,033 --> 00:30:45,300
To see that many people engaged.

734
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:50,066
In discussing the train, whether we can do the plans as sort of the

735
00:30:50,066 --> 00:30:51,133
next steps and figure it out.

736
00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:52,500
And hopefully we can.

737
00:30:53,734 --> 00:30:57,166
And figure, I don't know what the next steps are, but it was a

738
00:30:57,166 --> 00:31:00,066
really, really exciting engagement to see yep.

739
00:31:00,133 --> 00:31:00,867
To see that many people.

740
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,433
And we came.

741
00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:02,100
Up with some

742
00:31:02,667 --> 00:31:05,300
wonderful ideas and helped us to understand.

743
00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:07,634
That what we're really doing.

744
00:31:08,567 --> 00:31:08,567
With

745
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:13,033
train stations, we're putting a, a better front door on the house.

746
00:31:13,033 --> 00:31:13,367
Mm-hmm .

747
00:31:14,467 --> 00:31:16,433
That's going to make people want to.

748
00:31:17,533 --> 00:31:18,300
Explore Exeter.

749
00:31:19,834 --> 00:31:20,100
Stay,

750
00:31:20,834 --> 00:31:21,900
maybe stay for a week.

751
00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:23,033
Maybe stay for a lot longer,

752
00:31:24,166 --> 00:31:26,100
even if it's like an evening and a night, right?

753
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:26,333
Yeah.

754
00:31:26,333 --> 00:31:27,667
So they come in, so.

755
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,033
It's just

756
00:31:28,767 --> 00:31:32,533
having that amenity of a, you know, a train station with

757
00:31:33,266 --> 00:31:33,500
restrooms.

758
00:31:34,867 --> 00:31:35,033
Restrooms visitors center.

759
00:31:37,133 --> 00:31:37,834
Proper architecture.

760
00:31:38,033 --> 00:31:39,734
So it, it sends the right message.

761
00:31:40,634 --> 00:31:42,000
That all that was great

762
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:47,066
way, fair or way finding to, you know, get them from the train station

763
00:31:47,133 --> 00:31:48,367
to other parts of town.

764
00:31:48,934 --> 00:31:52,300
Is it, you know, mm-hmm , are there bikes or shuttles or, you know

765
00:31:52,300 --> 00:31:56,133
all that stuff and PA and apps are in and you know, how do

766
00:31:56,133 --> 00:31:56,900
we take that?

767
00:31:57,133 --> 00:31:59,567
And what are they coming into the train station for?

768
00:31:59,567 --> 00:32:01,166
And how can we keep that here?

769
00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:04,066
It was, it was really, and then they also, it was great discussion.

770
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,133
They also took a swing.

771
00:32:05,533 --> 00:32:07,033
At the solving.

772
00:32:07,834 --> 00:32:08,133
Longer term,

773
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:11,500
how we might resolve the parking issue.

774
00:32:12,133 --> 00:32:12,867
They had this great.

775
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:15,734
Plan for a pedestrian bridge over the tracks.

776
00:32:16,767 --> 00:32:19,000
Tracks in some kind of parking facility.

777
00:32:20,066 --> 00:32:21,834
Where there is currently light industrial.

778
00:32:23,033 --> 00:32:24,100
Off of winter street.

779
00:32:25,133 --> 00:32:26,767
Oh, and railroad Ave.

780
00:32:26,934 --> 00:32:27,033
Yep.

781
00:32:27,133 --> 00:32:27,500
Yeah.

782
00:32:27,533 --> 00:32:28,433
So, yeah, shoe.

783
00:32:28,567 --> 00:32:31,567
Yeah, it was, it was a really well done, you know, they kind of

784
00:32:31,567 --> 00:32:33,033
do their blitz Cree planning thing.

785
00:32:33,934 --> 00:32:38,033
And obviously it's, it's not the most carefully, but they're, they've done this so

786
00:32:38,033 --> 00:32:39,533
many times really good at it.

787
00:32:40,367 --> 00:32:41,266
It was very exciting

788
00:32:42,033 --> 00:32:44,367
to have that many people interested and involved,

789
00:32:45,467 --> 00:32:47,166
not just from the town, but from the region.

790
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,300
Cuz it is a regional path for transportation.

791
00:32:51,233 --> 00:32:54,000
Well, Don presented that it's third ridership.

792
00:32:55,066 --> 00:32:55,867
Third, highest third, highest

793
00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:57,100
compared to gloss.

794
00:32:57,467 --> 00:33:01,433
The only ones that are higher are each, each tournament is each end of

795
00:33:01,433 --> 00:33:01,834
the track.

796
00:33:02,367 --> 00:33:03,033
So it's, it's.

797
00:33:03,433 --> 00:33:03,734
It's pretty impressive.

798
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,333
Yeah.

799
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:07,734
Yeah, it was great.

800
00:33:07,734 --> 00:33:08,100
It was great.

801
00:33:08,667 --> 00:33:10,834
Do you know the profit that's that's for sale?

802
00:33:11,033 --> 00:33:13,567
I thought it was pending was that as the hang.

803
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:14,033
That you handker trip factory.

804
00:33:14,467 --> 00:33:14,834
Yeah.

805
00:33:14,934 --> 00:33:17,133
Is that, is that a part of any of the planning as far as

806
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:20,634
the owners or the, the perspective owner?

807
00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:25,767
Had a offline, he didn't want to go online even in the stakeholders meeting

808
00:33:26,066 --> 00:33:29,333
but he had an offline one-on-one with a representative from the.

809
00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:31,066
Pioneer Hampshire.

810
00:33:31,066 --> 00:33:31,367
Okay.

811
00:33:31,767 --> 00:33:32,900
So he was able to kinda.

812
00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:35,667
Indicate certain what he was thinking

813
00:33:36,467 --> 00:33:39,433
and how much he knew in to work with the town, which it sounds

814
00:33:39,433 --> 00:33:40,667
like it's quite a bit, so.

815
00:33:41,533 --> 00:33:41,834
It's good.

816
00:33:42,333 --> 00:33:44,266
They also had some suggestions for,

817
00:33:45,133 --> 00:33:45,533
for funding.

818
00:33:48,066 --> 00:33:50,033
Projects like this, the report.

819
00:33:50,266 --> 00:33:52,033
I think it's not up yet.

820
00:33:53,133 --> 00:33:56,100
But the, the slides are up, the slides are up and the.

821
00:33:56,934 --> 00:33:57,500
The actual presentation.

822
00:33:57,734 --> 00:33:58,033
Yep.

823
00:33:58,033 --> 00:34:01,066
The presentation and slides that they presented on Saturday to the group.

824
00:34:01,066 --> 00:34:04,433
And then if I remember correctly, it's like eight to 10 weeks for the

825
00:34:04,433 --> 00:34:04,834
entire.

826
00:34:05,133 --> 00:34:06,300
Actual report to be

827
00:34:07,433 --> 00:34:09,100
put together and actually in a, like a present.

828
00:34:10,033 --> 00:34:11,300
Report version.

829
00:34:12,166 --> 00:34:12,333
But

830
00:34:13,266 --> 00:34:16,100
XTV filmed it so you can either watch it or you can go and

831
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:17,567
look at the slides and read it

832
00:34:18,934 --> 00:34:19,433
on a Saturday.

833
00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:20,000
Yep.

834
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,266
Just.

835
00:34:20,567 --> 00:34:21,367
Saturday for sensation.

836
00:34:22,133 --> 00:34:23,900
So there's gonna be the final report final.

837
00:34:24,233 --> 00:34:24,500
Yes.

838
00:34:25,367 --> 00:34:28,433
And one of the things I know the train station committee is very.

839
00:34:28,934 --> 00:34:32,734
Focused on isn't doing the same kind of widespread dissemination.

840
00:34:33,700 --> 00:34:34,033
That they

841
00:34:34,900 --> 00:34:37,000
did to get people there and they want to get that.

842
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:39,033
Report into the hands of the lot of people.

843
00:34:39,133 --> 00:34:40,634
So yeah, the final report.

844
00:34:42,166 --> 00:34:43,567
Oh, this good was great.

845
00:34:43,867 --> 00:34:44,834
They did a really good.

846
00:34:47,433 --> 00:34:47,433
Yeah.

847
00:34:49,667 --> 00:34:50,033
Okay.

848
00:34:50,033 --> 00:34:50,266
That's great.

849
00:34:50,266 --> 00:34:51,300
Well, thank you for the update on that.

850
00:34:51,533 --> 00:34:51,834
So

851
00:34:52,333 --> 00:34:54,066
I guess, flying through the agenda.

852
00:34:54,133 --> 00:34:55,300
So next is this new business.

853
00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:56,133
So

854
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,133
it's always good to go fast.

855
00:34:59,233 --> 00:34:59,567
Yeah.

856
00:35:01,133 --> 00:35:01,867
I am good.

857
00:35:02,233 --> 00:35:02,567
Okay.

858
00:35:03,634 --> 00:35:04,000
Just

859
00:35:04,533 --> 00:35:04,834
BRC.

860
00:35:05,867 --> 00:35:07,266
Coordination for the 20, 27 budget.

861
00:35:07,367 --> 00:35:09,567
Yeah, I think that's probably the biggest item that I.

862
00:35:10,467 --> 00:35:10,734
See is

863
00:35:13,433 --> 00:35:14,834
I'm sorry to no interject.

864
00:35:15,467 --> 00:35:18,133
Do we want to review the C I P.

865
00:35:19,066 --> 00:35:23,100
That the planning board has finalized and now goes to DRC at our next

866
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:23,133
meeting.

867
00:35:23,433 --> 00:35:25,900
So it gets finalized tomorrow night.

868
00:35:26,033 --> 00:35:26,133
Okay.

869
00:35:26,133 --> 00:35:27,066
And so I guess,

870
00:35:27,433 --> 00:35:31,900
when I would ask is last year, you guys put in the, for, for

871
00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:35,100
funding for the R and T, is there something you guys are looking for

872
00:35:35,834 --> 00:35:36,100
I keep it.

873
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,367
We Paul and I, and, and Corey, we all keep a list of sort

874
00:35:39,367 --> 00:35:40,634
of pending warrant articles.

875
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,867
Was there anything facilities was, well, I was just thinking.

876
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,767
That we, as a committee could review the accuracy

877
00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:48,533
they're done with it.

878
00:35:48,667 --> 00:35:49,033
Okay.

879
00:35:50,133 --> 00:35:50,300
For that

880
00:35:51,033 --> 00:35:52,000
to see if there's any, any.

881
00:35:52,367 --> 00:35:53,000
Projects that we want to leave.

882
00:35:53,033 --> 00:35:53,734
You want support?

883
00:35:54,033 --> 00:35:54,133
Yeah.

884
00:35:54,133 --> 00:35:54,500
Okay.

885
00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:57,333
So it finalizes tomorrow night.

886
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:01,367
I can make sure that you all get emailed a copy of the final

887
00:36:01,433 --> 00:36:02,500
draft for your.

888
00:36:03,367 --> 00:36:04,000
September meeting.

889
00:36:04,066 --> 00:36:04,500
Does that work?

890
00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:05,033
Yeah, that's great.

891
00:36:05,166 --> 00:36:05,533
Okay.

892
00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:09,066
It would be interesting to see if there's any funding up there.

893
00:36:09,066 --> 00:36:11,000
There's any discussion funding for.

894
00:36:11,634 --> 00:36:13,000
The obviously you got the.

895
00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:15,500
Fire station police station, moving out.

896
00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:17,333
You've been active spaces that are.

897
00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:22,166
Now vacant, the part of our big concern or my concern would be is

898
00:36:22,166 --> 00:36:22,433
that.

899
00:36:23,433 --> 00:36:24,333
It doesn't become the,

900
00:36:25,166 --> 00:36:26,500
the vacuum and the rope, right?

901
00:36:27,033 --> 00:36:30,266
Like the, so I, so get filled with a bunch of stuff that this

902
00:36:30,266 --> 00:36:31,000
is the parks, right.

903
00:36:31,834 --> 00:36:31,867
Building?

904
00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:37,100
No, the former parks, no, this, this is station, the police, police and fire

905
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:38,100
Cause if you just spread,

906
00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:39,634
if you out in the.

907
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:40,033
Spring.

908
00:36:40,433 --> 00:36:40,767
Yeah.

909
00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:42,533
Now you've got an empty, you got empty space.

910
00:36:43,634 --> 00:36:45,333
So like parks and rec.

911
00:36:45,467 --> 00:36:49,000
Now you've got two empty spaces and that's part of what the, the dovetailing

912
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:49,300
of the.

913
00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:54,266
The, you know, the assessment is, is that the space needs assessment is trying

914
00:36:54,266 --> 00:36:55,333
to mirror something.

915
00:36:55,333 --> 00:36:57,333
So I don't know whether there's anything in the budget.

916
00:36:58,300 --> 00:37:01,100
To begin to think about any of those things.

917
00:37:01,900 --> 00:37:05,066
Versus just having vacant buildings that become somebody that says, oh, well I've got

918
00:37:05,066 --> 00:37:05,333
a vacant building.

919
00:37:05,433 --> 00:37:06,333
I'm gonna occupy it

920
00:37:08,033 --> 00:37:08,433
Oh, yep.

921
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:08,000
question.

922
00:37:09,533 --> 00:37:09,834
No.

923
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:10,100
No.

924
00:37:11,066 --> 00:37:14,066
What does a town normally do with vacant buildings that they own?

925
00:37:14,233 --> 00:37:15,333
We haven't had that issue.

926
00:37:16,767 --> 00:37:17,500
since I've been.

927
00:37:20,667 --> 00:37:20,834
I

928
00:37:21,834 --> 00:37:22,000
feedback.

929
00:37:22,066 --> 00:37:22,166
Okay.

930
00:37:22,867 --> 00:37:24,667
So since part, this is me.

931
00:37:25,533 --> 00:37:26,066
This is very new.

932
00:37:26,066 --> 00:37:27,066
He is a hundred percent right.

933
00:37:28,133 --> 00:37:31,667
Since park and rec has left, the building has been vacant over the last

934
00:37:31,867 --> 00:37:32,500
you know, few months.

935
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:37,433
Was Paul, the Newtown editor myself are concerned because we, if there's a vacant

936
00:37:37,433 --> 00:37:41,834
filtering our Primex, our insurance coverage changes because it's a vacant.

937
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:42,100
Building.

938
00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:46,033
So what we have done and we're in the process of

939
00:37:46,734 --> 00:37:50,033
XTV doesn't have parking and then any spaces.

940
00:37:50,467 --> 00:37:51,133
Enough space over there.

941
00:37:51,367 --> 00:37:54,066
So temporarily in there where that it's temporarily.

942
00:37:55,066 --> 00:37:56,133
Just so nobody gets worried.

943
00:37:56,166 --> 00:37:59,133
No. And that's but, but just so that we have, we're giving the, the

944
00:37:59,133 --> 00:37:59,900
select board testing.

945
00:38:00,133 --> 00:38:00,367
Yes.

946
00:38:00,867 --> 00:38:01,100
Yes.

947
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:01,767
You're giving something.

948
00:38:01,934 --> 00:38:03,000
We're gonna put them.

949
00:38:03,233 --> 00:38:08,000
Over there for while we do the space needs assessment, give them, you know

950
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,066
they'll be able to have parking spots until we, you know, figure this out

951
00:38:11,634 --> 00:38:14,300
But they, they are aware that it is a temporary situation.

952
00:38:15,367 --> 00:38:17,066
I don't know that we would be moving.

953
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,834
Crazy ridiculously fast.

954
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,000
So I do think it would probably be a year or so is what

955
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:23,767
we, we think.

956
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:28,000
And, but they'll have a nice, big clean space to, to do stuff overthere.

957
00:38:28,033 --> 00:38:32,066
And then we, we are protected if a pipe, pipe burst or, you know

958
00:38:32,133 --> 00:38:32,734
anything like that.

959
00:38:33,133 --> 00:38:36,066
There's somebody in the building, you know, five days a week so that we

960
00:38:36,066 --> 00:38:37,066
don't lose anything.

961
00:38:37,166 --> 00:38:37,533
Yeah.

962
00:38:38,033 --> 00:38:39,667
So it's really driven by those insurances.

963
00:38:39,667 --> 00:38:40,033
It's

964
00:38:40,934 --> 00:38:41,033
we.

965
00:38:41,333 --> 00:38:41,667
Right.

966
00:38:41,734 --> 00:38:42,266
It is a

967
00:38:43,634 --> 00:38:46,066
it is a nice thing to do for ex TV, but we know the

968
00:38:46,066 --> 00:38:47,667
space is not available permanently.

969
00:38:47,667 --> 00:38:48,000
Yeah.

970
00:38:48,233 --> 00:38:49,133
But in the meantime,

971
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:53,834
let's use, let them have a little more space and benefit by the building

972
00:38:54,033 --> 00:38:55,166
Having people in it.

973
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:57,100
I heard about this.

974
00:38:57,133 --> 00:38:58,734
I'm so glad you told this guy.

975
00:38:59,266 --> 00:38:59,734
So yeah,

976
00:39:00,433 --> 00:39:01,100
just things like that.

977
00:39:01,900 --> 00:39:03,133
I also think we should add the.

978
00:39:04,033 --> 00:39:07,900
Town hall to the, to our list of items to begin to get.

979
00:39:08,066 --> 00:39:08,166
Yeah.

980
00:39:08,834 --> 00:39:11,900
Cause I know that there's a lot of activity around that and I know

981
00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:12,100
that.

982
00:39:12,367 --> 00:39:14,767
My, I hear that there's gonna be some requests for some.

983
00:39:15,634 --> 00:39:16,133
Funding for that.

984
00:39:17,467 --> 00:39:17,734
So

985
00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:20,100
they all tie together, you know, and

986
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,066
we'll link back to our,

987
00:39:22,634 --> 00:39:23,634
I was just gonna say, I.

988
00:39:24,033 --> 00:39:24,066
Don't think

989
00:39:25,233 --> 00:39:26,066
there are no.

990
00:39:26,867 --> 00:39:27,867
Requests before this.

991
00:39:29,133 --> 00:39:30,500
Process is done this RFP process.

992
00:39:31,233 --> 00:39:32,000
But yes.

993
00:39:33,533 --> 00:39:35,066
Julie and the town manager.

994
00:39:35,834 --> 00:39:39,066
And a few stakeholders have met to sort of talk about town hall to

995
00:39:39,066 --> 00:39:40,066
see if there are.

996
00:39:41,066 --> 00:39:45,066
Interim phases or what, what, what could be done over there, but again, nothing

997
00:39:45,066 --> 00:39:47,100
would be done until we go through this space.

998
00:39:47,233 --> 00:39:48,300
This is why we did this.

999
00:39:49,133 --> 00:39:49,767
The space needs assessment,

1000
00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:50,767
and then

1001
00:39:51,467 --> 00:39:54,734
fire has in the C I P I wanna say.

1002
00:39:55,634 --> 00:39:58,000
It's either 20, 30, 1 or 2032.

1003
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,066
It's I think it's the last year of this year's C I P to

1004
00:40:01,066 --> 00:40:03,166
look at if renovations need to be.

1005
00:40:04,033 --> 00:40:06,533
Over at court street after the police department comes out.

1006
00:40:06,533 --> 00:40:08,033
So we had always talked about.

1007
00:40:08,767 --> 00:40:10,367
Letting the fire department be over there.

1008
00:40:11,233 --> 00:40:14,500
For a little bit to see how they would like to use the space

1009
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:18,433
or do other things going on the police side or, you know, what kind

1010
00:40:18,467 --> 00:40:19,133
exactly what.

1011
00:40:19,634 --> 00:40:20,066
You're doing what's best,

1012
00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:22,333
best use.

1013
00:40:22,433 --> 00:40:22,767
Yeah.

1014
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,066
So I would say there's no funding in this CIP P for.

1015
00:40:27,066 --> 00:40:32,033
Any three of those buildings, 2026 in 20 27 7, because we haven't finished.

1016
00:40:32,066 --> 00:40:34,834
No, that's great space needs assessment, but in the long term, yes.

1017
00:40:34,834 --> 00:40:35,066
And.

1018
00:40:35,233 --> 00:40:36,300
The three buildings are the town hall.

1019
00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:36,667
Yeah.

1020
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:37,066
Yep.

1021
00:40:37,133 --> 00:40:38,033
32 court.

1022
00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:40,000
And the other side of the fire.

1023
00:40:41,133 --> 00:40:41,667
Car fire building.

1024
00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:43,900
No one's major emergency.

1025
00:40:44,033 --> 00:40:48,033
We would obviously fix it, but no, one's getting out ahead of the, no

1026
00:40:48,433 --> 00:40:48,667
the.

1027
00:40:49,333 --> 00:40:51,867
The study paragraphs that has initiated this.

1028
00:40:51,934 --> 00:40:52,100
Yeah.

1029
00:40:52,367 --> 00:40:52,734
Good.

1030
00:40:53,533 --> 00:40:53,667
So the

1031
00:40:55,033 --> 00:40:57,000
RFP that we're is going out.

1032
00:40:57,700 --> 00:40:59,867
Is gonna come back with some of the deliverables being.

1033
00:41:00,934 --> 00:41:02,066
Space layout, conceptual planning.

1034
00:41:02,467 --> 00:41:03,033
So that.

1035
00:41:03,834 --> 00:41:07,567
Wouldn't be for this budget year or it would be for the following for

1036
00:41:07,567 --> 00:41:08,333
the 20, 28.

1037
00:41:08,333 --> 00:41:09,634
Is that a fair assessment?

1038
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:10,367
Okay, good.

1039
00:41:10,433 --> 00:41:11,000
Thank you.

1040
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:16,333
I think it sounds like there's a lot of moving parts between just those

1041
00:41:16,333 --> 00:41:19,333
three buildings and seeing what department needs are.

1042
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,333
And maybe 1 49 Kingston road and you know, different things.

1043
00:41:23,533 --> 00:41:23,834
So.

1044
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:29,033
I think we'd all like to kind of hear what the recommendations are before

1045
00:41:29,033 --> 00:41:30,033
we get too far.

1046
00:41:30,033 --> 00:41:32,500
I was just curious because there's parallel pass.

1047
00:41:32,934 --> 00:41:36,000
Between what the Keegan study is recommending that has to do with the people

1048
00:41:36,066 --> 00:41:40,000
and organizational, you know, and then you're talking about space layouts.

1049
00:41:40,066 --> 00:41:40,333
So.

1050
00:41:41,133 --> 00:41:45,066
Is there a timeline on the Keegan study on what you're planning on doing

1051
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:49,033
or may do organization lowest hanging fruit.

1052
00:41:49,533 --> 00:41:51,066
And mid-level fruit has been picked.

1053
00:41:51,166 --> 00:41:52,634
Yeah, I think from the Keegan stuff.

1054
00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:53,066
Okay.

1055
00:41:53,066 --> 00:41:54,033
That's why there's some high levels stuff.

1056
00:41:54,066 --> 00:41:55,066
Really supportive.

1057
00:41:55,066 --> 00:41:55,367
Yeah.

1058
00:41:55,667 --> 00:41:56,000
Uhhuh

1059
00:41:56,767 --> 00:41:57,266
and I think.

1060
00:41:57,900 --> 00:42:00,266
Also giving Paul Cohen, who is our new tap manager,

1061
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:03,834
the space to be here for 12 months and see, okay.

1062
00:42:03,834 --> 00:42:04,100
Yeah.

1063
00:42:05,066 --> 00:42:06,266
Is what we've got recommended.

1064
00:42:06,266 --> 00:42:07,567
This is what's done.

1065
00:42:08,166 --> 00:42:10,367
I'm gonna be honest in the, off the top of my head.

1066
00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:12,767
If I remember correctly, don't move into this.

1067
00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:15,033
The things that haven't been done.

1068
00:42:15,834 --> 00:42:19,433
Are just, there was a recommendation for two full-time park.

1069
00:42:20,166 --> 00:42:22,000
Staff that's a budgetary.

1070
00:42:22,033 --> 00:42:22,300
So.

1071
00:42:23,066 --> 00:42:27,767
Parks and recreation oversees 56 acres of Parkland with only two park.

1072
00:42:29,133 --> 00:42:29,500
Park.

1073
00:42:30,867 --> 00:42:31,433
Groundskeepers basically.

1074
00:42:32,266 --> 00:42:34,367
So that was a recommendation in the Kegan report.

1075
00:42:34,433 --> 00:42:35,734
So that would come down to funding.

1076
00:42:35,900 --> 00:42:37,100
And when, when we could do that,

1077
00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:38,900
there was a recommendation.

1078
00:42:39,066 --> 00:42:42,900
For a new Lieutenant position in the police department, but when Josh came on

1079
00:42:43,066 --> 00:42:45,567
or excuse me, chief McCain came on.

1080
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:48,133
He actually

1081
00:42:49,133 --> 00:42:52,634
came to Paul and I and said instead of a new Lieutenant position, I'd

1082
00:42:52,767 --> 00:42:54,367
actually like to just reorganize.

1083
00:42:55,133 --> 00:42:56,867
And with that reorganize, he.

1084
00:42:57,333 --> 00:42:59,433
Could do what the Keegan report.

1085
00:43:00,934 --> 00:43:02,767
Recommended in a little different way, but worked.

1086
00:43:03,834 --> 00:43:04,100
As the same thing.

1087
00:43:04,433 --> 00:43:04,667
So

1088
00:43:05,867 --> 00:43:07,567
that's very exciting that doesn't cost the town.

1089
00:43:07,834 --> 00:43:10,033
Anything it's just a reorganization of police department.

1090
00:43:11,066 --> 00:43:11,433
Correct?

1091
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:12,033
Yep.

1092
00:43:13,166 --> 00:43:16,300
And then I think there was like a senior coordinator park and rack and

1093
00:43:16,300 --> 00:43:19,266
we put in last year, the Exeter, well,

1094
00:43:20,433 --> 00:43:25,133
last year was our first year of a part-time senior coordinator in the parks

1095
00:43:25,133 --> 00:43:27,166
and rec department, which was funded.

1096
00:43:28,133 --> 00:43:29,133
And I think it's like,

1097
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:30,333
30 40.

1098
00:43:30,867 --> 00:43:35,066
I can't remember the percentages, but a hospital grant through Exeter hospital paid for

1099
00:43:35,066 --> 00:43:36,066
a portion of the salary.

1100
00:43:37,533 --> 00:43:39,767
Another portion of the salary was the.

1101
00:43:40,567 --> 00:43:42,033
Recreation revolving fund, which are the fees.

1102
00:43:42,033 --> 00:43:44,066
People pay to participate in the programs.

1103
00:43:44,500 --> 00:43:48,166
And then I think it was like 20% on the general fund paid for

1104
00:43:48,166 --> 00:43:48,433
that.

1105
00:43:48,934 --> 00:43:49,500
Part-time position.

1106
00:43:49,533 --> 00:43:50,000
Mm-hmm .

1107
00:43:51,433 --> 00:43:55,100
So that was a low or cost to get a staff person.

1108
00:43:56,166 --> 00:43:58,367
I think that's all, that's all the human capital.

1109
00:43:58,567 --> 00:44:01,100
There was talk of a land use.

1110
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:02,100
Department

1111
00:44:03,634 --> 00:44:05,734
in the, in the Keegan study.

1112
00:44:06,467 --> 00:44:06,500
At,

1113
00:44:07,066 --> 00:44:10,867
if there was turnover in that department at some point, but we're, we're going

1114
00:44:10,867 --> 00:44:11,500
slow, but we're.

1115
00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:12,066
Yes, exactly.

1116
00:44:12,300 --> 00:44:13,100
So that's.

1117
00:44:14,467 --> 00:44:17,000
I think for the most part, we've done quite a lot of it, quite

1118
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:17,500
a lot of those things.

1119
00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:20,066
Cause I was looking at some of the high levels that they were talking

1120
00:44:20,066 --> 00:44:20,500
about.

1121
00:44:21,533 --> 00:44:25,333
The organizational structure and analysis and succession planning that you had to go through

1122
00:44:25,333 --> 00:44:25,533
Yes.

1123
00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:29,033
The focus was on operational efficiency and collaboration.

1124
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:31,300
And I just know

1125
00:44:32,567 --> 00:44:36,333
that even in private industry, we've got, what's called the grain of the workforce

1126
00:44:37,667 --> 00:44:38,500
You know, who is it?

1127
00:44:38,667 --> 00:44:39,033
Yeah.

1128
00:44:39,433 --> 00:44:39,767
Yeah.

1129
00:44:40,233 --> 00:44:42,367
And then there's no bench strength underneath.

1130
00:44:43,233 --> 00:44:44,266
To fill those type of positions.

1131
00:44:45,533 --> 00:44:48,100
Positions.And then you're starting to say, okay, what about recruitment and retention?

1132
00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:48,433
Well,

1133
00:44:49,333 --> 00:44:52,166
we're talking about gen X millennia and, you know,

1134
00:44:53,533 --> 00:44:58,433
gen Z he and their, their thought process is very different, is very different

1135
00:44:58,567 --> 00:45:00,100
than what they're wants are.

1136
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:01,367
And especially even in the workplace.

1137
00:45:01,900 --> 00:45:05,000
So I was just curious if, if any of that's bubbled up or anything

1138
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:05,166
like this.

1139
00:45:05,166 --> 00:45:05,500
Yeah.

1140
00:45:05,533 --> 00:45:07,066
And the way, and so.

1141
00:45:08,033 --> 00:45:08,834
Really fantastic process.

1142
00:45:09,033 --> 00:45:09,300
So

1143
00:45:10,266 --> 00:45:10,533
one

1144
00:45:12,367 --> 00:45:13,266
municipal government is tricky.

1145
00:45:13,300 --> 00:45:14,867
Yes, because we are very.

1146
00:45:15,634 --> 00:45:15,867
Limited

1147
00:45:16,767 --> 00:45:17,100
in staff.

1148
00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:19,433
We don't get a lot of much people, right.

1149
00:45:19,433 --> 00:45:23,367
Because if you, we either pay for, let's say a planner, an assistant planner

1150
00:45:25,033 --> 00:45:28,000
A lot of times we can't afford to have somebody maybe that is ready

1151
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:28,867
to be the planner.

1152
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:30,767
Now we have a fantastic planning.

1153
00:45:30,767 --> 00:45:31,734
That's a bad example of.

1154
00:45:32,166 --> 00:45:34,033
Department, but there are certain departments where the next person.

1155
00:45:35,066 --> 00:45:38,266
Because we can't afford to have that next person function in that role or

1156
00:45:38,266 --> 00:45:38,900
something like that.

1157
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,834
So those are some of the things we're thinking of, but to your point

1158
00:45:41,834 --> 00:45:43,100
about recruitment and re.

1159
00:45:43,433 --> 00:45:44,900
Retention and the next generation.

1160
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:48,500
We're talking about redoing our personnel policies and procedures.

1161
00:45:48,734 --> 00:45:52,000
Actually, we're just about to start them in about a week or two, because

1162
00:45:52,066 --> 00:45:52,533
we're seeing.

1163
00:45:53,333 --> 00:45:55,066
Requests on different work-life balance or different.

1164
00:45:56,033 --> 00:45:59,000
Requests for vacation or how do we, you know, and I'm not saying we

1165
00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:59,433
can do all of them.

1166
00:45:59,634 --> 00:46:01,033
This public government is, I was just curious.

1167
00:46:01,033 --> 00:46:02,567
Very different's difficult.

1168
00:46:03,233 --> 00:46:03,767
It's very.

1169
00:46:04,166 --> 00:46:06,300
Difficult, but where we used to see.

1170
00:46:07,066 --> 00:46:07,166
Okay.

1171
00:46:07,367 --> 00:46:10,166
I have a town job and if I stayed for 20 years, I have

1172
00:46:10,166 --> 00:46:10,634
the pension.

1173
00:46:10,934 --> 00:46:14,066
You know, if you get somebody to stay three to five years, man, you're

1174
00:46:14,066 --> 00:46:14,500
like, Woohoo.

1175
00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:15,000
.

1176
00:46:15,767 --> 00:46:18,367
I just don't so it's just very different now.

1177
00:46:19,033 --> 00:46:21,634
And so these are some of the things that we're trying to figure out

1178
00:46:21,767 --> 00:46:22,066
We.

1179
00:46:22,867 --> 00:46:25,066
Aren't the private sector, so we can't pay.

1180
00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:27,867
What maybe the private sector pays.

1181
00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:30,734
And so how do we balance that out and get people that want to

1182
00:46:30,734 --> 00:46:33,100
be here that take a lot of pride in working for the town and

1183
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:34,100
for the bingo and that.

1184
00:46:34,300 --> 00:46:36,033
That's what you'd have to be focusing because even in.

1185
00:46:37,133 --> 00:46:41,300
Private industry people aren't staying in jobs three to five years is typical before

1186
00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:42,867
they start rotating them to something else.

1187
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:45,100
It's interesting that you bring this up.

1188
00:46:45,533 --> 00:46:47,900
Because this is why I have term limited myself.

1189
00:46:48,433 --> 00:46:52,100
I'm in my final term, I've served four across

1190
00:46:53,266 --> 00:46:53,367
17.

1191
00:46:53,900 --> 00:46:57,834
Years, but I'm hoping to recruit someone who is much younger than I am

1192
00:46:58,667 --> 00:47:02,300
Three replace B. Well, what was nice the time would go along when you

1193
00:47:02,300 --> 00:47:06,000
were having to interviews, hopefully the wars will go for this SLU board, the

1194
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:06,567
interviews you.

1195
00:47:07,066 --> 00:47:10,767
Had some very good candidates coming in that one was very young and was

1196
00:47:10,767 --> 00:47:12,066
like, oh, this is great.

1197
00:47:12,066 --> 00:47:13,033
That you've got that.

1198
00:47:13,433 --> 00:47:15,000
I would say interest in.

1199
00:47:15,233 --> 00:47:15,500
Doing those things.

1200
00:47:15,867 --> 00:47:18,667
It's really great to see you when volunteers wanna participate.

1201
00:47:19,934 --> 00:47:20,867
We're very lucky.

1202
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:21,734
So, yeah.

1203
00:47:21,734 --> 00:47:24,166
And, but it is, but I'm hoping tricky.

1204
00:47:24,533 --> 00:47:27,667
A member of one of those gender, two generations that you mentioned.

1205
00:47:28,033 --> 00:47:28,133
Yeah.

1206
00:47:28,233 --> 00:47:29,266
Yeah, absolutely.

1207
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:31,900
And that's another thing that I think that's.

1208
00:47:32,934 --> 00:47:34,500
That's what the sustainability committee's done.

1209
00:47:35,433 --> 00:47:38,100
And it's something the best practice that we saw in Portsmouth.

1210
00:47:39,233 --> 00:47:40,767
Portsmouth they had on some of their committees.

1211
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:41,934
Committees students

1212
00:47:43,266 --> 00:47:45,000
and you get your early adopters there.

1213
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:47,900
That people that have, you know, what can we do?

1214
00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:49,900
Well, we have somebody from Phillips Exeter.

1215
00:47:50,867 --> 00:47:51,033
I'm just gonna

1216
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:52,166
say's.

1217
00:47:53,166 --> 00:47:54,000
And as a matter of fact,

1218
00:47:54,300 --> 00:47:56,533
you'll find out he's work, been working on it all summer long.

1219
00:47:56,533 --> 00:47:57,033
That's awesome.

1220
00:47:57,133 --> 00:47:58,433
I mean, that's just who he is.

1221
00:47:59,433 --> 00:48:02,867
But yeah, that has that drive and passion and it gives them kind of

1222
00:48:02,867 --> 00:48:03,100
like that.

1223
00:48:04,166 --> 00:48:07,433
Insight into the community, because to your point, it's gonna be somebody that absolutely

1224
00:48:07,467 --> 00:48:08,567
loves this community.

1225
00:48:09,333 --> 00:48:10,367
And wants to be dedicated for it.

1226
00:48:10,367 --> 00:48:11,567
It's not because of the pay.

1227
00:48:12,033 --> 00:48:15,033
No, we just need to get the boomers on the system and don't want

1228
00:48:15,033 --> 00:48:17,100
to say that we paid back so we can have a quorum.

1229
00:48:18,634 --> 00:48:18,867
yes,

1230
00:48:19,533 --> 00:48:20,166
we'll get there.

1231
00:48:20,367 --> 00:48:22,266
I we've got one that's that's next week.

1232
00:48:22,467 --> 00:48:23,834
So they, they will be there.

1233
00:48:24,233 --> 00:48:24,500
Yes.

1234
00:48:25,333 --> 00:48:26,567
So, but communication

1235
00:48:28,433 --> 00:48:31,767
and I guys know, I wasn't saying that the town pees badly, I'm just

1236
00:48:31,767 --> 00:48:33,100
saying that clearly you can.

1237
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:34,367
Make more in the private sector.

1238
00:48:34,834 --> 00:48:35,433
I was very competitive.

1239
00:48:36,233 --> 00:48:37,066
It's also how people

1240
00:48:37,767 --> 00:48:39,533
get their advancements by changing jobs.

1241
00:48:39,667 --> 00:48:41,667
So reality is, is that the pay scale?

1242
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:44,667
Scales are only by jumping to the next job,

1243
00:48:45,433 --> 00:48:49,100
you know, it's really to see what those generations, what their key care abouts

1244
00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:50,000
are to be quite honest.

1245
00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:52,500
Yeah, because sometimes it isn't always about pay.

1246
00:48:52,767 --> 00:48:53,100
Yeah.

1247
00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:54,667
Lot of work like balance.

1248
00:48:54,667 --> 00:48:56,367
They see that this is a town that, you know,

1249
00:48:57,333 --> 00:49:01,100
is very, I would say, committed to sustainability, environmental issues.

1250
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:04,300
Issues saying as a town with its history.

1251
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:06,100
I mean, that makes sense.

1252
00:49:06,433 --> 00:49:08,634
And that's important, but I'd also say.

1253
00:49:09,667 --> 00:49:11,300
These generations are known there.

1254
00:49:11,300 --> 00:49:13,066
Isn't gonna be social security around.

1255
00:49:14,300 --> 00:49:16,567
and no companies are offering retirements anymore.

1256
00:49:16,567 --> 00:49:17,567
They don't offer that.

1257
00:49:18,467 --> 00:49:19,033
Just to let you know,

1258
00:49:20,533 --> 00:49:22,667
don't, don't go to the social security thing quite yet.

1259
00:49:22,867 --> 00:49:26,000
No, not quite yet, but I would say it's not that what a lot

1260
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:26,300
of people.

1261
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,033
It is what it is, but the fact that they would have social security

1262
00:49:30,033 --> 00:49:30,567
if it's there.

1263
00:49:31,634 --> 00:49:35,166
Plus retirement is, is just something that most, if you go to private industry

1264
00:49:35,233 --> 00:49:38,834
would see, I think the younger professionals aren't necessarily, I think you both retirement

1265
00:49:38,834 --> 00:49:39,066
yet.

1266
00:49:39,066 --> 00:49:39,567
That's the way they.

1267
00:49:40,033 --> 00:49:40,634
Want, they want the money now.

1268
00:49:40,634 --> 00:49:41,033
Right?

1269
00:49:41,133 --> 00:49:43,066
So that's what, that's what depends.

1270
00:49:43,133 --> 00:49:45,266
It's also, that's part of where is that?

1271
00:49:45,500 --> 00:49:47,900
I think the town is also suffering from affordability.

1272
00:49:48,166 --> 00:49:48,734
I mean it's the,

1273
00:49:49,533 --> 00:49:51,033
the issue is, is that at this point,

1274
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,133
for someone, a a, of these generations we're talking about to be a little

1275
00:49:55,133 --> 00:49:56,300
afford to live in the town.

1276
00:49:56,467 --> 00:50:00,100
It is becoming, you know, untenable, it's UN.

1277
00:50:00,367 --> 00:50:03,033
Untenable for any generation right now to live in this town as a person

1278
00:50:03,033 --> 00:50:03,767
that has moved in.

1279
00:50:03,934 --> 00:50:04,133
Right.

1280
00:50:04,900 --> 00:50:06,734
I'm just, yes, I'm just saying it.

1281
00:50:06,767 --> 00:50:07,300
It's tough.

1282
00:50:07,934 --> 00:50:08,266
It really.

1283
00:50:08,767 --> 00:50:10,767
Is I give Paula Newtown manager a lot of credit.

1284
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:16,066
He was able to get the whole town wall on late Tuesdays and early

1285
00:50:16,066 --> 00:50:16,767
half day, Friday.

1286
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:17,100
Right.

1287
00:50:17,133 --> 00:50:17,000
Fridays.

1288
00:50:17,266 --> 00:50:18,500
So from like a retention,

1289
00:50:19,233 --> 00:50:20,634
standpoint for people coming in.

1290
00:50:21,166 --> 00:50:25,433
We were seeing other communities that had half days on Fridays mm-hmm so

1291
00:50:25,433 --> 00:50:26,367
it's the same number of hours.

1292
00:50:26,634 --> 00:50:27,266
I'll give you an.

1293
00:50:27,634 --> 00:50:27,634
Example.

1294
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:28,734
I was working in eight.

1295
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,133
I work eight to four 30 every day.

1296
00:50:30,266 --> 00:50:32,500
I couldn't get to my own town hall in my own town.

1297
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,567
because they don't have a late night.

1298
00:50:34,567 --> 00:50:34,867
Right.

1299
00:50:34,934 --> 00:50:35,634
So you.

1300
00:50:36,033 --> 00:50:39,100
Know, allowing people an Exeter that do work to have a late night to

1301
00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:43,033
come into town hall, but it also benefits the residents, but it benefited some

1302
00:50:43,033 --> 00:50:44,066
of the employees to say,

1303
00:50:44,166 --> 00:50:44,900
this is great.

1304
00:50:45,033 --> 00:50:47,900
I can be home with my family on, you know, Friday afternoon for my

1305
00:50:47,900 --> 00:50:48,033
kids.

1306
00:50:48,033 --> 00:50:51,734
So trying to find, you know, you can't always be no cost, but that

1307
00:50:51,734 --> 00:50:52,100
was a.

1308
00:50:52,567 --> 00:50:53,634
A good one for us.

1309
00:50:53,934 --> 00:50:56,634
So, well, it'll be important with the Keating study and where you guys are

1310
00:50:56,634 --> 00:50:59,367
just accepting how you briefed us is when that consultant comes on board.

1311
00:50:59,367 --> 00:51:00,367
That's exactly what they're.

1312
00:51:00,934 --> 00:51:01,066
Available.

1313
00:51:01,433 --> 00:51:02,033
What have you done?

1314
00:51:03,066 --> 00:51:05,066
What is next on your, on your next phase?

1315
00:51:05,066 --> 00:51:06,567
They'll have a coffee that can study.

1316
00:51:06,567 --> 00:51:06,900
Yeah.

1317
00:51:06,934 --> 00:51:08,834
So they should be able to ask those kinds of.

1318
00:51:09,133 --> 00:51:11,266
Questions and that that's where you find out if they've done their homework or

1319
00:51:11,266 --> 00:51:11,367
not.

1320
00:51:11,433 --> 00:51:11,767
Yeah.

1321
00:51:11,767 --> 00:51:12,066
Yeah.

1322
00:51:12,133 --> 00:51:14,433
but even understanding, like, what is, what is next?

1323
00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:17,066
So, so like you said, you've done bowl hanging fruit, and maybe they've been

1324
00:51:17,667 --> 00:51:20,100
Bean, but it's like, are you going to go up to the next step

1325
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:20,266
step?

1326
00:51:20,266 --> 00:51:20,734
Because.

1327
00:51:21,700 --> 00:51:25,000
That's what the space it's like three to five, your plan and looks like

1328
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,066
or your plan?

1329
00:51:26,133 --> 00:51:26,500
Yeah.

1330
00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:29,533
That's I will say that with the new town manager.

1331
00:51:30,667 --> 00:51:31,333
That's very exciting.

1332
00:51:32,066 --> 00:51:32,166
Yeah.

1333
00:51:32,433 --> 00:51:35,300
He has come in and really made it a difference.

1334
00:51:35,667 --> 00:51:36,100
That's great.

1335
00:51:36,500 --> 00:51:37,900
And the select cord's thinking.

1336
00:51:38,300 --> 00:51:40,100
Is definitely evolving in some ways.

1337
00:51:41,133 --> 00:51:45,667
Beyond or kind of in different directions than the cadence study laid out.

1338
00:51:45,734 --> 00:51:46,166
So mm-hmm, .

1339
00:51:48,066 --> 00:51:49,634
What was the, what's the date of the Kean site?

1340
00:51:49,634 --> 00:51:50,367
Cause that's what, two years old?

1341
00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:51,000
Two years ago.

1342
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:51,133
Yeah.

1343
00:51:51,533 --> 00:51:54,867
It's about two years and I think it was really, really helpful at the

1344
00:51:54,867 --> 00:51:55,033
time.

1345
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:55,266
It.

1346
00:51:55,634 --> 00:51:56,066
It's still very helpful.

1347
00:51:56,066 --> 00:51:56,367
Yeah.

1348
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:59,066
But as, as Dan said, Paul's coming in.

1349
00:51:59,834 --> 00:52:02,100
And we're all we've been living in it for about a year now.

1350
00:52:02,133 --> 00:52:04,000
And we're like, okay, just, just need to be tweaked.

1351
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,300
Does that need to be, I guess just not staying stagnant if something's not

1352
00:52:07,300 --> 00:52:07,533
working.

1353
00:52:10,667 --> 00:52:11,133
Fresh eyes.

1354
00:52:11,667 --> 00:52:12,166
Yes, exactly.

1355
00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:12,867
Exactly.

1356
00:52:13,133 --> 00:52:13,634
Saying.

1357
00:52:13,834 --> 00:52:14,000
Okay.

1358
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:14,300
Yeah.

1359
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,000
So, because looking.

1360
00:52:16,367 --> 00:52:16,634
At the Keegan.

1361
00:52:17,333 --> 00:52:20,100
There's a lot of opportunities there from the outside.

1362
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:23,367
Looking in on that the Keegan study obviously is identifying.

1363
00:52:24,367 --> 00:52:24,767
Problems.

1364
00:52:24,767 --> 00:52:25,100
Right.

1365
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:27,066
It's identifying opportunities for.

1366
00:52:28,033 --> 00:52:31,100
Improvement.So the reality is no matter what, you'll still know, whether the opportunities of

1367
00:52:34,033 --> 00:52:34,634
improvement, how you improve them could be done in a different way.Right?Absolutely.

1368
00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:35,900
So, but.

1369
00:52:36,166 --> 00:52:38,100
It also should be treated as a dynamic document too, right?

1370
00:52:38,133 --> 00:52:39,567
I mean, it was, it was two years ago.

1371
00:52:39,567 --> 00:52:42,367
That was, there was different leadership and still, I mean, I'm sure ball's doing

1372
00:52:42,367 --> 00:52:42,533
this.

1373
00:52:42,634 --> 00:52:44,033
It's like, that's a baseline.

1374
00:52:44,567 --> 00:52:46,266
And then how, what is with his thought process?

1375
00:52:46,934 --> 00:52:47,900
These like board.

1376
00:52:48,767 --> 00:52:49,000
Because you don't,

1377
00:52:49,767 --> 00:52:51,100
I mean, it has to evolve, right?

1378
00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:54,100
That things change every year, whatever it's economics or.

1379
00:52:55,300 --> 00:52:55,634
Payroll,

1380
00:52:56,166 --> 00:52:59,033
whatever it's and all of this is very.

1381
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:02,033
Much a natural process that happens.

1382
00:53:02,867 --> 00:53:03,333
When you've had

1383
00:53:04,133 --> 00:53:06,000
two ton managers across 40 years.

1384
00:53:06,066 --> 00:53:06,367
Yeah.

1385
00:53:06,367 --> 00:53:06,634
Yeah.

1386
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:08,033
And then you bring someone in.

1387
00:53:08,934 --> 00:53:10,333
Who's not going, going to stay for 20 years.

1388
00:53:10,767 --> 00:53:14,266
He's not going to be like pre to he's gonna do five to 10

1389
00:53:14,266 --> 00:53:14,533
years.

1390
00:53:15,133 --> 00:53:15,166
10.

1391
00:53:16,166 --> 00:53:16,300
Sorry.

1392
00:53:16,367 --> 00:53:17,634
I really like working with him.

1393
00:53:19,033 --> 00:53:19,533
hopefully.

1394
00:53:20,367 --> 00:53:23,000
Yeah, but he's been very clear that he's not looking to be the next

1395
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,433
George Olson, Christine.

1396
00:53:25,533 --> 00:53:26,100
He wants to

1397
00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:27,166
hit it hard.

1398
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,066
To it's exciting.

1399
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:29,433
It's good.

1400
00:53:29,467 --> 00:53:29,900
And then.

1401
00:53:30,767 --> 00:53:31,834
It's, this is first sunlight.

1402
00:53:32,433 --> 00:53:33,367
It's been another location.

1403
00:53:33,500 --> 00:53:37,033
So the places are, yeah, he's been a top manager for 36 years in

1404
00:53:37,033 --> 00:53:38,433
Massachusetts and it's been really great.

1405
00:53:39,066 --> 00:53:40,433
By the way I have blinds coming for that.

1406
00:53:40,433 --> 00:53:41,033
And about

1407
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,166
I actually was in a meeting yesterday.

1408
00:53:43,333 --> 00:53:44,100
I was like, oh my gosh.

1409
00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:44,567
So

1410
00:53:45,133 --> 00:53:45,900
stay in the right eye.

1411
00:53:45,900 --> 00:53:46,133
It's fine.

1412
00:53:46,734 --> 00:53:46,767
.

1413
00:53:47,333 --> 00:53:49,734
No, it's, who's called the disruptor.

1414
00:53:51,066 --> 00:53:52,433
I wouldn't I know

1415
00:53:55,100 --> 00:53:56,867
meeting no, no, no. Russia,

1416
00:53:57,533 --> 00:53:58,367
private industry.

1417
00:53:58,867 --> 00:54:01,834
They come in and just say, it's not, let's manage doge.

1418
00:54:02,667 --> 00:54:06,100
But with challenge, you know, say, why are you doing it like this?

1419
00:54:06,867 --> 00:54:08,033
And it's not nothing bad.

1420
00:54:09,166 --> 00:54:10,634
Couple instances of that.

1421
00:54:10,900 --> 00:54:11,066
Yeah.

1422
00:54:11,233 --> 00:54:11,567
Yeah.

1423
00:54:11,767 --> 00:54:14,900
They're really nice thing is we've had a, if, if I may.

1424
00:54:15,066 --> 00:54:17,900
We've had a very supportive select board for many, many years.

1425
00:54:18,100 --> 00:54:21,333
Kat, you know, for many boards, it's not just this board for many boards

1426
00:54:21,467 --> 00:54:22,867
and they have been very supportive.

1427
00:54:23,433 --> 00:54:26,533
Of the employees and then finding that balance with the residents.

1428
00:54:26,533 --> 00:54:28,166
And we do know the taxes are going up.

1429
00:54:28,233 --> 00:54:31,000
So we're all the employees are very aware and very.

1430
00:54:31,834 --> 00:54:33,000
Concerned and, and worried, but.

1431
00:54:34,667 --> 00:54:34,667
Having

1432
00:54:35,433 --> 00:54:37,900
a base where I think we have really good department heads.

1433
00:54:38,867 --> 00:54:41,300
And so when he's coming in and we're able to tweak things, cuz we

1434
00:54:41,300 --> 00:54:43,367
have the bones of really great structure, right.

1435
00:54:43,867 --> 00:54:46,634
It's, it's nice to be able to make some tweaks.

1436
00:54:47,066 --> 00:54:50,533
Tweaks here and there that make us more effective or more efficient yourself.

1437
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:52,667
Now we just need to give you the space to make it work.

1438
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:53,066
Yeah.

1439
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:54,767
so let's figure it out.

1440
00:54:54,867 --> 00:54:55,033
I have.

1441
00:54:55,433 --> 00:54:55,567
A good office.

1442
00:54:55,767 --> 00:54:56,100
I can't.

1443
00:54:58,300 --> 00:54:58,367
Well that's.

1444
00:54:58,634 --> 00:54:59,667
I mean, that's, I think that was it.

1445
00:54:59,667 --> 00:55:00,367
That was all I had.

1446
00:55:01,467 --> 00:55:01,900
It's good.

1447
00:55:01,900 --> 00:55:03,100
So this one conversation.

1448
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:03,667
Thank you so much.

1449
00:55:03,667 --> 00:55:04,033
Thank you.

1450
00:55:04,033 --> 00:55:04,500
Grabbing me.

1451
00:55:04,533 --> 00:55:06,266
That was a good wandering new business.

1452
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:07,000
I know, right?

1453
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:07,066
Yeah.

1454
00:55:07,934 --> 00:55:09,100
That was longer than the first part.

1455
00:55:09,533 --> 00:55:09,533
Of the meeting.

1456
00:55:09,867 --> 00:55:11,066
So any business.

1457
00:55:12,767 --> 00:55:13,000
Carol.

1458
00:55:13,533 --> 00:55:15,100
So just to recap, neither for me,

1459
00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:18,033
actually, I did wanna bring up the town hall, but Julie's not here.

1460
00:55:18,033 --> 00:55:20,166
So I think that would be good for us to, to jump back into

1461
00:55:20,166 --> 00:55:20,634
that, like,

1462
00:55:21,133 --> 00:55:21,166
what is, what is that?

1463
00:55:21,634 --> 00:55:22,066
She on the

1464
00:55:22,834 --> 00:55:23,100
distribution?

1465
00:55:23,166 --> 00:55:23,433
Yes.

1466
00:55:23,467 --> 00:55:23,900
For this

1467
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:25,266
good.

1468
00:55:25,266 --> 00:55:27,900
Maybe we, we can highlight that and she can join the September.

1469
00:55:29,634 --> 00:55:33,066
So we have the ERC coordination, which is really the CIP P that provided

1470
00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:33,500
documents.

1471
00:55:33,533 --> 00:55:33,834
Yep.

1472
00:55:33,934 --> 00:55:36,734
So they finalize it Thursday and I'll send it out for you guys.

1473
00:55:37,133 --> 00:55:37,033
To review.

1474
00:55:37,266 --> 00:55:39,367
So you'll have enough time for your September meeting.

1475
00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:39,867
All right.

1476
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:40,100
Excellent.

1477
00:55:40,133 --> 00:55:42,567
So September, so next meeting's September 23rd.

1478
00:55:43,433 --> 00:55:45,033
And we're looking at U C I P.

1479
00:55:46,333 --> 00:55:47,033
Town hall.

1480
00:55:49,700 --> 00:55:50,900
We're gonna have bit review.

1481
00:55:51,033 --> 00:55:52,100
You're gonna have your kids.

1482
00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:52,533
Oh yeah.

1483
00:55:52,533 --> 00:55:53,100
We'll have these.

1484
00:55:53,233 --> 00:55:53,667
Oh yeah.

1485
00:55:53,667 --> 00:55:54,333
Those three things.

1486
00:55:54,867 --> 00:55:55,734
That's a full meeting.

1487
00:55:56,567 --> 00:55:56,567
Yeah.

1488
00:55:56,867 --> 00:55:59,533
And you don't have to review 'em that day, but you, you can at

1489
00:55:59,533 --> 00:56:03,100
least get 'em passed out to you guys or email, you know, however you

1490
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:03,300
wanna do that.

1491
00:56:03,433 --> 00:56:03,867
I probably would.

1492
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:04,333
I mean, I think we.

1493
00:56:04,934 --> 00:56:06,066
More likely can review them.

1494
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:07,300
I don't think it's gonna be that.

1495
00:56:08,367 --> 00:56:11,066
Especially if we have them pre pre-meeting to be able to come do a

1496
00:56:11,066 --> 00:56:11,300
comparison.

1497
00:56:12,567 --> 00:56:13,133
Yeah, you guys,

1498
00:56:14,500 --> 00:56:15,333
we can send them up.

1499
00:56:15,634 --> 00:56:16,000
Yeah.

1500
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,033
So I'm sure you guys go through, 'em have like a top five or

1501
00:56:19,033 --> 00:56:19,734
something like that.

1502
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:20,066
So.

1503
00:56:20,667 --> 00:56:21,000
I don't.

1504
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:21,100
Okay.

1505
00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:21,767
You always skip five.

1506
00:56:22,133 --> 00:56:22,300
Yeah.

1507
00:56:22,300 --> 00:56:24,100
Well, but hopefully fingers crossed.

1508
00:56:24,333 --> 00:56:24,667
Yeah.

1509
00:56:24,834 --> 00:56:25,000
Yeah.

1510
00:56:25,066 --> 00:56:27,867
There will be some sort of collaborative project, whatever you guys need.

1511
00:56:28,934 --> 00:56:30,333
Yeah, we can talk to the one we did

1512
00:56:31,166 --> 00:56:32,166
well, safety, complex.

1513
00:56:32,266 --> 00:56:34,266
We were, one of us was on, on that process.

1514
00:56:34,300 --> 00:56:34,734
Right?

1515
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:35,266
I'm just gonna.

1516
00:56:37,667 --> 00:56:38,000
So good.

1517
00:56:38,133 --> 00:56:40,166
All right, then I guess we're at the end of our meeting, then I

1518
00:56:40,166 --> 00:56:41,333
just ask for a motion to.

1519
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:42,667
Ask promotion to, to adjourn.

1520
00:56:43,533 --> 00:56:43,900
All right.

1521
00:56:44,066 --> 00:56:44,900
Second, second.

1522
00:56:45,066 --> 00:56:45,166
Good.

1523
00:56:45,333 --> 00:56:46,066
We're both second.

1524
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:46,834
No discussion.

1525
00:56:47,834 --> 00:56:48,033
All on paper.

1526
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