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hope that you tune into our other content as well. 26 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:21,900 Hello, everybody. 27 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:23,033 We're gonna start this meeting. 28 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:26,166 My name's Aaron Brown. 29 00:06:26,667 --> 00:06:27,300 I'm the vice chair. 30 00:06:27,367 --> 00:06:28,867 I'm sitting as chair this evening. 31 00:06:30,033 --> 00:06:31,166 The Exeter planning board. 32 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,266 Meeting of September 10th, 2026. 33 00:06:35,233 --> 00:06:38,000 I do want to start just by taking one second to ask you to 34 00:06:38,867 --> 00:06:40,100 Take a moment of silence to recognize. 35 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,066 The anniversary that's coming up for nine 11 please. 36 00:06:43,133 --> 00:06:43,300 Hmm. 37 00:06:52,767 --> 00:06:53,834 Okay, thank you for that. 38 00:06:54,033 --> 00:06:54,166 Hmm. 39 00:06:55,834 --> 00:06:57,133 Let's start with introductions to my far. 40 00:06:57,133 --> 00:06:57,333 Right. 41 00:06:57,333 --> 00:06:58,266 Please introduce yourself. 42 00:06:58,634 --> 00:06:59,133 Marty Kennedy. 43 00:07:00,433 --> 00:07:01,100 Jen Martel. 44 00:07:02,500 --> 00:07:05,433 Gwen English, Nancy Blan luck board of representative. 45 00:07:06,300 --> 00:07:07,100 Sam McLeod alternate. 46 00:07:07,834 --> 00:07:08,066 Great. 47 00:07:09,133 --> 00:07:11,066 And Sam, we're gonna make you active this evening. 48 00:07:11,367 --> 00:07:11,734 Okay. 49 00:07:14,033 --> 00:07:17,533 Why don't we start with the approval of the minutes from 8 27, 20 26. 50 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:21,634 I don't think we have them in our packet. 51 00:07:21,734 --> 00:07:25,300 Mr. How did we not have Mr. I think here we only had this 52 00:07:25,533 --> 00:07:26,100 July 9th. 53 00:07:26,867 --> 00:07:28,100 And then the sidewalk of. 54 00:07:29,133 --> 00:07:33,000 14th, our emails said that they weren't available when the packages together that's. 55 00:07:34,433 --> 00:07:34,767 Yeah. 56 00:07:35,133 --> 00:07:37,100 Do you want to go over the other stuff or just table at all 57 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,900 We should do Lucy, probably do the ninth and the 14th. 58 00:07:40,934 --> 00:07:41,100 Okay. 59 00:07:41,100 --> 00:07:43,100 Yeah, let's do the, let's do the first one. 60 00:07:53,634 --> 00:07:54,266 Do you have any? 61 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:55,834 I have a few. 62 00:07:55,867 --> 00:07:57,567 If you'd like me to start, go for it. 63 00:07:58,867 --> 00:08:00,767 Line 82 page two of seven. 64 00:08:01,700 --> 00:08:03,033 And this is again, the July. 65 00:08:05,033 --> 00:08:07,900 Ninth, 2026 draft meeting minutes. 66 00:08:09,033 --> 00:08:10,634 It says comes around the. 67 00:08:11,634 --> 00:08:13,100 Corner and narrows the word. 68 00:08:13,900 --> 00:08:14,100 Corner 69 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,300 needs to replace power. 70 00:08:24,233 --> 00:08:25,767 On page four seven. 71 00:08:26,667 --> 00:08:28,066 Line 1 53. 72 00:08:28,934 --> 00:08:31,867 Evan Lumis from, I think it should have N H D E S. 73 00:08:32,767 --> 00:08:33,100 S added there. 74 00:08:36,533 --> 00:08:37,066 On my 75 00:08:37,867 --> 00:08:40,500 2 38 on page six of seven. 76 00:08:41,333 --> 00:08:42,667 Silly one, but it's 77 00:08:43,634 --> 00:08:44,734 it's during public comment period. 78 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,333 Ms. Blan explained why bike racks. 79 00:08:47,467 --> 00:08:51,300 Can't be, it says N and it should be on the sidewalk. 80 00:08:59,533 --> 00:09:02,300 And then the only other thing I noticed, and I don't know if we 81 00:09:02,300 --> 00:09:05,033 need to really correct it, but it's on page seven of seven. 82 00:09:06,133 --> 00:09:08,734 Line 2 58, a vote was taken. 83 00:09:09,533 --> 00:09:12,033 All word favor, the motion passed unanimously. 84 00:09:13,533 --> 00:09:14,367 At that point. 85 00:09:14,634 --> 00:09:17,100 I just didn't know if we wanted to know and we don't have to 86 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,133 add it, but I'd rather say it anyway tonight. 87 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,333 That we had lost John Ruger. 88 00:09:22,300 --> 00:09:22,300 Online. 89 00:09:22,900 --> 00:09:24,900 So the role call was no longer needed. 90 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:27,667 Because we didn't have a member on zoom, 91 00:09:28,367 --> 00:09:29,834 so it doesn't need to be added. 92 00:09:29,867 --> 00:09:30,834 I just wanted to know that. 93 00:09:30,834 --> 00:09:31,033 Yeah. 94 00:09:31,033 --> 00:09:31,133 Yeah. 95 00:09:31,634 --> 00:09:32,834 And I'm all set on that. 96 00:09:34,166 --> 00:09:35,066 Anybody else? 97 00:09:36,567 --> 00:09:39,133 I have, I have two, two typos. 98 00:09:40,567 --> 00:09:42,000 One on page three. 99 00:09:43,367 --> 00:09:46,066 Line 1 21 at the end. 100 00:09:47,066 --> 00:09:47,767 This is a roll call. 101 00:09:47,767 --> 00:09:49,900 Vote was taken by Ms. Kennedy. 102 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,000 That should be Mr. 103 00:09:52,367 --> 00:09:52,367 And 104 00:09:53,300 --> 00:09:54,033 similarly 105 00:09:55,066 --> 00:09:55,066 on 106 00:09:56,533 --> 00:09:57,166 page four. 107 00:09:58,367 --> 00:09:59,634 Line 1 37. 108 00:10:00,667 --> 00:10:01,066 It says 109 00:10:02,667 --> 00:10:02,834 me English. 110 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,500 I think that's Ms. English. 111 00:10:06,100 --> 00:10:06,100 Huh 112 00:10:07,100 --> 00:10:08,100 no, I love it. 113 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:08,533 That's it. 114 00:10:08,867 --> 00:10:09,100 So. 115 00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:12,500 Anybody else? 116 00:10:15,634 --> 00:10:17,567 Then I will make a motion. 117 00:10:18,667 --> 00:10:21,066 To accept the July 9th, 2026. 118 00:10:21,900 --> 00:10:23,100 Meeting minutes as amended. 119 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,266 Amend all those in favor. 120 00:10:25,634 --> 00:10:26,066 Oh second. 121 00:10:26,166 --> 00:10:26,867 Did someone second? 122 00:10:26,934 --> 00:10:27,100 You did. 123 00:10:27,100 --> 00:10:27,433 Nope. 124 00:10:27,667 --> 00:10:28,133 You just did. 125 00:10:28,233 --> 00:10:28,567 Okay. 126 00:10:28,634 --> 00:10:29,300 All those in favor. 127 00:10:29,767 --> 00:10:30,066 Aye. 128 00:10:30,100 --> 00:10:30,333 Aye. 129 00:10:31,100 --> 00:10:31,834 Sustained. 130 00:10:32,367 --> 00:10:32,834 I'm gonna abstain 131 00:10:33,467 --> 00:10:34,066 against. 132 00:10:34,367 --> 00:10:34,734 Okay. 133 00:10:35,066 --> 00:10:35,734 Pushing passes. 134 00:10:36,934 --> 00:10:37,000 Passes. 135 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:38,000 What's the other one you wanna do? 136 00:10:39,166 --> 00:10:41,066 It was the site walk July 14th. 137 00:10:41,367 --> 00:10:41,634 Yep. 138 00:11:06,500 --> 00:11:06,767 So 139 00:11:07,333 --> 00:11:08,000 anything on it. 140 00:11:17,266 --> 00:11:17,834 Anything on it. 141 00:11:21,033 --> 00:11:21,033 I have to abstain cuz I didn't make that.Okay. 142 00:11:21,066 --> 00:11:22,533 I didn't make it back in town. 143 00:11:22,667 --> 00:11:24,834 I mean the minutes are always sparse. 144 00:11:24,834 --> 00:11:26,433 I think at one point we didn't even take minutes. 145 00:11:26,634 --> 00:11:27,000 I think we just. 146 00:11:27,433 --> 00:11:28,667 Used to take attendance on the sidewalk. 147 00:11:29,166 --> 00:11:31,000 I think it came out that we have to. 148 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,300 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 149 00:11:33,133 --> 00:11:33,634 Think they're fine. 150 00:11:33,667 --> 00:11:34,133 I mean, fine. 151 00:11:37,100 --> 00:11:37,767 I'm fine with it. 152 00:11:38,667 --> 00:11:42,767 I make a motion to expect the minutes from the July 14th sidewalk. 153 00:11:44,166 --> 00:11:44,667 Second 154 00:11:45,367 --> 00:11:46,000 one second. 155 00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:47,433 Mm-hmm all those in favor. 156 00:11:48,166 --> 00:11:48,266 Aye. 157 00:11:48,667 --> 00:11:48,900 Aye. 158 00:11:48,934 --> 00:11:49,033 Aye. 159 00:11:49,333 --> 00:11:51,300 Abstained, abstained, abstain. 160 00:11:52,367 --> 00:11:52,433 All right. 161 00:11:52,433 --> 00:11:53,834 So we have 1, 2, 4. 162 00:11:54,667 --> 00:11:57,333 In favor two abstentions, none opposed passed. 163 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:01,333 Okay. 164 00:12:04,367 --> 00:12:05,000 Dave, I think, 165 00:12:05,900 --> 00:12:08,433 I can't remember if you introduced yourself this evening or not. 166 00:12:09,867 --> 00:12:10,133 You did 167 00:12:12,033 --> 00:12:14,033 yeah.Oh, when I went through don't put Dave shackles. 168 00:12:14,033 --> 00:12:14,266 Yeah. 169 00:12:14,734 --> 00:12:16,567 So do you want to start, I'm gonna ask you what the next. 170 00:12:17,333 --> 00:12:18,100 Order of business. 171 00:12:18,100 --> 00:12:19,333 If we're ready to roll on that. 172 00:12:20,166 --> 00:12:21,500 Continuation of the application. 173 00:12:22,467 --> 00:12:27,367 Of Phillips Exeter academy for minor site plan review to construct three new duplexes 174 00:12:27,367 --> 00:12:29,333 for faculty housing on tax maps. 175 00:12:30,467 --> 00:12:33,634 Maps 83 dash zero one and 72 dash 99. 176 00:12:34,667 --> 00:12:38,033 The applicant is also submitting a voluntary law merger. 177 00:12:38,867 --> 00:12:43,100 Application to merge tax map, lot 72 dash 99 into tax map. 178 00:12:44,033 --> 00:12:46,066 83 dash zero one for a single attractive land. 179 00:12:46,867 --> 00:12:49,500 Planning board case number 26 dash seven. 180 00:12:51,133 --> 00:12:51,500 Thank you. 181 00:12:51,734 --> 00:12:56,100 As you know, it's been on the agenda for quite some time now, but 182 00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:56,734 it hasn't been heard. 183 00:12:56,734 --> 00:12:57,734 It's been continued. 184 00:12:58,667 --> 00:12:59,634 Continued because the ZBA 185 00:13:00,367 --> 00:13:03,900 approved special exception, but then a rehearing was requested. 186 00:13:04,033 --> 00:13:04,900 So it kind of stayed. 187 00:13:05,700 --> 00:13:10,433 And then the rehearing, the ZBA affirmed the special granting of the special exception 188 00:13:10,634 --> 00:13:12,033 but then that was appealed. 189 00:13:12,767 --> 00:13:14,333 To the state of New Hampshire housing board of appeals. 190 00:13:15,233 --> 00:13:15,266 Appeals. 191 00:13:15,266 --> 00:13:18,033 So that is where it is now that will take months to resolve. 192 00:13:19,734 --> 00:13:20,500 And so 193 00:13:21,333 --> 00:13:23,000 I would suggest that. 194 00:13:24,033 --> 00:13:25,133 I suggest the following motion. 195 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:30,834 As agreed by the applicant in an email dated September 3rd, 2026. 196 00:13:31,767 --> 00:13:35,266 You moved that the request of Altis engineering on behalf of Phillips Exeter academy 197 00:13:35,367 --> 00:13:39,533 from minor site plan approval will be tabled until further notice with the condition 198 00:13:40,033 --> 00:13:43,133 That abutters are re notified of the meeting when it returns to the board 199 00:13:45,233 --> 00:13:46,500 Does somebody wanna make that motion? 200 00:13:47,867 --> 00:13:48,433 Do I have a second? 201 00:13:49,900 --> 00:13:49,900 Second. 202 00:13:50,734 --> 00:13:51,166 See you a second. 203 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:52,333 All those in favor. 204 00:13:52,734 --> 00:13:53,033 Aye. 205 00:13:53,433 --> 00:13:53,667 Aye. 206 00:13:53,667 --> 00:13:53,867 Aye. 207 00:13:54,700 --> 00:13:55,100 Opposed. 208 00:13:56,166 --> 00:13:56,433 Stain. 209 00:13:58,467 --> 00:13:58,734 I think we're all. 210 00:13:58,767 --> 00:13:59,533 I think it was unanimous. 211 00:13:59,533 --> 00:13:59,767 Yes. 212 00:13:59,934 --> 00:14:00,266 Mm-hmm. 213 00:14:00,300 --> 00:14:00,734 yes. 214 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,433 So next on the agenda is the application of Jones and beach on behalf 215 00:14:09,433 --> 00:14:09,567 of. 216 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:15,066 Green company for subdivision and conditional use permit application for a proposed 14 lot 217 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,066 Residential cluster subdivision consisting of single family homes. 218 00:14:20,166 --> 00:14:23,500 Homes on the 10.1 acre parcel of the Exeter country club property. 219 00:14:24,367 --> 00:14:26,166 That currently serves as this driving range. 220 00:14:27,233 --> 00:14:28,033 Tax map 52. 221 00:14:29,533 --> 00:14:29,533 Lot 222 00:14:31,100 --> 00:14:34,333 one plaintiff board case number 26 dash 14. 223 00:14:36,767 --> 00:14:37,867 Dave, anything on that one? 224 00:14:38,133 --> 00:14:38,300 Yeah. 225 00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:41,500 The first thing you usually do, cause this is hasn't been heard before is 226 00:14:41,500 --> 00:14:43,266 you either, you know, you decide. 227 00:14:43,634 --> 00:14:47,033 You make a decision on acceptance of the plans and if they're complete for 228 00:14:47,033 --> 00:14:48,133 review purposes, I. 229 00:14:49,133 --> 00:14:49,667 I believe they are. 230 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:53,367 So that would be up to the board to accept those and open the 231 00:14:53,367 --> 00:14:53,533 case. 232 00:14:53,533 --> 00:14:53,834 Right. 233 00:14:54,867 --> 00:14:58,834 Yeah.Well, you accept the either, you know, you vote on acceptance of the plans 234 00:14:58,900 --> 00:14:59,066 Yeah. 235 00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:00,100 Okay.Yeah. 236 00:15:00,867 --> 00:15:02,266 And we want to make a motion on that. 237 00:15:03,300 --> 00:15:07,533 Acceptance of the plan as complete for review purposes, I think is the motion 238 00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:08,500 you say. 239 00:15:08,500 --> 00:15:10,066 So since said the words. 240 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,033 Second all second. 241 00:15:13,066 --> 00:15:13,367 Okay. 242 00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:15,000 Any discussion, 243 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:16,533 all those in favor. 244 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:17,266 Aye. 245 00:15:17,266 --> 00:15:17,433 Aye. 246 00:15:17,533 --> 00:15:17,834 Aye. 247 00:15:17,834 --> 00:15:18,066 Aye. 248 00:15:18,634 --> 00:15:19,033 Opposed. 249 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,066 Stained passive unanimously shall open this case. 250 00:15:23,066 --> 00:15:24,634 I do have a unique request of the applicant. 251 00:15:25,100 --> 00:15:26,166 We had a member of the. 252 00:15:27,066 --> 00:15:30,734 Public come in with the last second and want to be heard early because 253 00:15:30,734 --> 00:15:31,000 of the. 254 00:15:32,166 --> 00:15:35,066 Kind of an emergency physical condition kind of impose on you folks for that 255 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:36,667 That's totally familiar. 256 00:15:36,700 --> 00:15:37,667 If he's ready now to talk. 257 00:15:37,667 --> 00:15:38,033 Absolutely. 258 00:15:38,033 --> 00:15:38,867 You wanna wait till they go? 259 00:15:39,133 --> 00:15:40,100 No, no, they can go. 260 00:15:40,433 --> 00:15:41,900 You want to speak first in the public? 261 00:15:42,700 --> 00:15:43,000 Yes. 262 00:15:43,133 --> 00:15:43,300 Okay. 263 00:15:43,500 --> 00:15:44,000 That's fine. 264 00:15:44,367 --> 00:15:44,634 Thank you so much. 265 00:15:44,634 --> 00:15:45,000 Okay. 266 00:15:46,033 --> 00:15:46,867 Remind me, please. 267 00:15:47,033 --> 00:15:47,367 I will. 268 00:15:47,367 --> 00:15:47,734 All right. 269 00:15:47,867 --> 00:15:48,100 And then. 270 00:15:49,133 --> 00:15:49,500 I'll 271 00:15:50,533 --> 00:15:51,767 go ahead, Dave, can I, yeah, please. 272 00:15:51,834 --> 00:15:52,767 I'll do the intro now. 273 00:15:52,767 --> 00:15:53,000 Yeah. 274 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:53,066 Thanks. 275 00:15:54,100 --> 00:15:57,667 As you said they're proposing a 14 lot residential cluster subdivision. 276 00:15:58,467 --> 00:16:03,433 Consisting on single family homes on a tenant about a 10 acre parcel at 277 00:16:03,433 --> 00:16:04,367 the Exeter country club. 278 00:16:05,133 --> 00:16:07,100 Property that currently serves as the driving range. 279 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,066 A conditional use permit will be required. 280 00:16:11,233 --> 00:16:14,767 Required for the proposed impacts to the wetland buffer associated with the cross-country sewer 281 00:16:15,266 --> 00:16:19,133 The conservation commission will hear the application at their October. 282 00:16:19,634 --> 00:16:21,300 13th 2026 meeting. 283 00:16:22,100 --> 00:16:25,500 The applicant also needs approval from the select board for the proposed sewer line 284 00:16:25,533 --> 00:16:27,100 to cross a town owned lot. 285 00:16:28,166 --> 00:16:31,500 The applicant appeared before the TRC on August 27th. 286 00:16:32,367 --> 00:16:34,500 And the TRC comment letter is enclosed in your packets. 287 00:16:35,634 --> 00:16:39,767 Packets, the applicant has also been reviewed by the U by Underwood engineers. 288 00:16:40,767 --> 00:16:44,100 Engineers and their comment letter dated September 1st is also enclosed for. 289 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,066 For your review. 290 00:16:46,300 --> 00:16:50,066 The applicant did not have time to revise the plans in response to the 291 00:16:50,066 --> 00:16:52,867 comment letters, but requested to be placed on. 292 00:16:53,133 --> 00:16:55,166 This agenda to start the discussion on the application. 293 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,734 I expect, I expect the board to hold the sidewalk. 294 00:16:58,934 --> 00:17:02,900 You generally do, and receive written comments from the conservation commission. 295 00:17:03,834 --> 00:17:05,033 Before taking any action on the 296 00:17:05,667 --> 00:17:06,767 proposal and conditional use. 297 00:17:07,634 --> 00:17:10,333 I would suggest that the board start the public hearing and at a minimum 298 00:17:10,533 --> 00:17:13,533 mask, initial questions and review the yield plan. 299 00:17:13,533 --> 00:17:15,100 That's kind of the threshold document. 300 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:15,567 Mm-hmm . 301 00:17:16,033 --> 00:17:17,033 That you know, can determine. 302 00:17:18,100 --> 00:17:19,567 The layout of the design. 303 00:17:20,367 --> 00:17:23,033 Depending on how, how many units in the, the planning board usually. 304 00:17:24,033 --> 00:17:28,333 Reviews that and accepts it and gets a, you know, a unit account and 305 00:17:28,333 --> 00:17:29,100 then moves forward. 306 00:17:30,100 --> 00:17:33,066 And there are no waivers being requested at this time, but that may change 307 00:17:33,066 --> 00:17:35,333 depending on the responses to the comment letters. 308 00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:36,133 That's all I have. 309 00:17:36,133 --> 00:17:36,567 Thank you. 310 00:17:38,367 --> 00:17:41,300 I'm just gonna make one comment before I hand it over to the applicant 311 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,500 It seems like there's a pretty good group from the audience. 312 00:17:46,300 --> 00:17:47,266 Versus some of our meetings. 313 00:17:47,934 --> 00:17:50,100 And I'm gonna assume they're probably here for this hearing. 314 00:17:50,266 --> 00:17:50,533 So. 315 00:17:51,433 --> 00:17:52,900 One of the things that we do at this hearing is we try to 316 00:17:52,900 --> 00:17:56,266 take care of public comments, the applicant initial application. 317 00:17:57,133 --> 00:17:58,667 And it's really still in the review process. 318 00:17:59,467 --> 00:18:00,867 We're gonna end up requesting 319 00:18:01,533 --> 00:18:05,300 sidewalk from the applicant at a time that's mutually agreeable to them and to 320 00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:05,533 us. 321 00:18:05,900 --> 00:18:07,266 And that is a public sidewalk. 322 00:18:07,834 --> 00:18:08,333 Walk, you are welcome to that. 323 00:18:08,367 --> 00:18:10,300 And I encourage you to go if you have interest. 324 00:18:11,233 --> 00:18:11,300 Also 325 00:18:13,533 --> 00:18:14,133 and when you're 326 00:18:15,834 --> 00:18:18,433 hearing what the applicant does, especially with the yield plan. 327 00:18:19,233 --> 00:18:21,166 It's not generally what they end up building. 328 00:18:21,166 --> 00:18:22,066 They're trying to. 329 00:18:22,867 --> 00:18:25,100 Demonstrate that they can get a certain number of units. 330 00:18:26,100 --> 00:18:29,900 By right with the zoning regulation, but the plan they ultimately submit. 331 00:18:30,867 --> 00:18:34,767 Will vary dramatically from what they will submit with their yield plan under a 332 00:18:34,767 --> 00:18:35,867 typical application. 333 00:18:36,934 --> 00:18:38,367 That's just my kind of comment to the public. 334 00:18:38,367 --> 00:18:40,000 If you're not familiar with the process. 335 00:18:40,767 --> 00:18:42,734 It is a little bit of a complicated process. 336 00:18:43,634 --> 00:18:44,433 And it can be confusing. 337 00:18:44,433 --> 00:18:45,433 And if you have questions. 338 00:18:46,467 --> 00:18:46,500 Questions. 339 00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:49,033 We encourage you to ask them at the appropriate time with that being said 340 00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:50,367 there you go. 341 00:18:51,233 --> 00:18:55,367 Thank you, Mr. Chair, page Libby with Johnson beach engineers here on behalf of 342 00:18:55,367 --> 00:18:57,000 the applicant greening company. 343 00:18:57,700 --> 00:19:00,133 Michael Green is here as well as Jenna green and John O'Neill. 344 00:19:01,433 --> 00:19:04,300 So we were here back in July a couple months ago for a design 345 00:19:04,300 --> 00:19:04,667 review. 346 00:19:05,066 --> 00:19:07,033 This plan will be very similar to what you saw. 347 00:19:07,033 --> 00:19:09,000 Then some minor changes have been made and we also. 348 00:19:09,533 --> 00:19:12,300 Updated the plans not to include all of the design details. 349 00:19:13,333 --> 00:19:17,066 Details.But again, for the record, it's map 52 lot one, which is 58 JD 350 00:19:17,066 --> 00:19:17,533 hill Ave. 351 00:19:18,100 --> 00:19:20,834 So the total parcel is close to 73 acres. 352 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:21,333 It is the. 353 00:19:21,700 --> 00:19:22,433 Golf course currently 354 00:19:23,133 --> 00:19:24,100 the Exter country club. 355 00:19:25,233 --> 00:19:29,567 We are looking at approximately a 10 acre parcel that is at near the 356 00:19:29,567 --> 00:19:30,300 frontage of. 357 00:19:31,266 --> 00:19:34,000 The parcel, which is shown on our existing conditions plan. 358 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,734 We don't show the entirety of the property because we won't be developing that 359 00:19:38,667 --> 00:19:41,834 It is accessed off the end of JD hill Ave, which is sort of 360 00:19:41,867 --> 00:19:44,367 a little dead end piece of the road that is off of. 361 00:19:45,333 --> 00:19:49,266 The intersection with Webster Ave, there's only two homes on the, that road currently 362 00:19:50,433 --> 00:19:54,367 And also there is the cart path that comes off from the country club 363 00:19:55,033 --> 00:19:55,533 clubhouse. 364 00:19:55,934 --> 00:19:58,000 So you'll see that running toward the clubhouse here. 365 00:19:58,467 --> 00:20:01,867 And then it sort of makes a curve and runs along the Western boundary 366 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,433 of the property that we're looking at. 367 00:20:04,166 --> 00:20:07,066 So the property currently is the golf course is driving range. 368 00:20:08,033 --> 00:20:10,333 You can see the tree line here on the plan, which is kind of 369 00:20:10,333 --> 00:20:13,066 the large clearing that is for the current driving range. 370 00:20:14,300 --> 00:20:14,567 The 371 00:20:15,166 --> 00:20:16,634 property's pretty moderately sloped. 372 00:20:16,634 --> 00:20:20,033 It does steepen as it gets closer to the wheel, right Creek, which is 373 00:20:20,033 --> 00:20:21,634 on the Eastern boundary of the property. 374 00:20:22,700 --> 00:20:26,100 The golf course does utilize some of this space right in the corner here 375 00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:27,033 in the Northeast corner. 376 00:20:28,033 --> 00:20:28,333 Closest to the Creek 377 00:20:29,166 --> 00:20:31,767 for one of their tea boxes for one of the golf holes. 378 00:20:32,767 --> 00:20:35,066 And there is a wetland that runs through the property. 379 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,133 This is very similar, actually the same as what you saw previously. 380 00:20:39,066 --> 00:20:43,333 Since our previous plan was a real wetland delineation versus just being a concept 381 00:20:44,166 --> 00:20:47,433 So that sort of divides the property almost two thirds, one third. 382 00:20:48,367 --> 00:20:52,900 Split with the majority of the land being on the Western side of that 383 00:20:52,900 --> 00:20:53,166 wetland. 384 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,100 Included in our plan set is a demolition plan. 385 00:20:58,133 --> 00:21:00,900 We did show our proposed road on here, just so it kind of made 386 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,066 a little bit more sense with what's. 387 00:21:02,467 --> 00:21:04,333 What's going on and we have kind of a blown up. 388 00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:10,367 Shot of that intersection at the Webster Ave, JD hill Ave intersection, cuz there's 389 00:21:10,367 --> 00:21:13,367 quite a bit going on there as you come around that corner. 390 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:15,100 And head toward the driving range. 391 00:21:16,166 --> 00:21:18,867 The road really narrows as it comes into JD hill road. 392 00:21:19,834 --> 00:21:23,333 So we'll need to actually widen JD hill Ave in order to make that 393 00:21:23,333 --> 00:21:25,533 an adequate access for the proposed subdivision. 394 00:21:26,467 --> 00:21:28,133 And there's quite a bit of infrastructure in that area. 395 00:21:28,133 --> 00:21:28,867 There's a, 396 00:21:29,533 --> 00:21:31,900 a fire hydrant, a couple of utility poles. 397 00:21:32,934 --> 00:21:35,066 Poles some drainage that will all need to be reworked. 398 00:21:35,066 --> 00:21:36,266 So that's what this plan shows. 399 00:21:36,667 --> 00:21:40,266 And we do plan on adding a similar kind of blown up detail on 400 00:21:40,266 --> 00:21:40,867 our utility. 401 00:21:41,133 --> 00:21:44,000 Plans at the request of D P w to show that in a little 402 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,100 bit more detail as well. 403 00:21:46,033 --> 00:21:49,367 The other thing that we'll have to get relocated is there's some overhead power 404 00:21:49,467 --> 00:21:53,266 that runs out actually into the golf course for kind of their maintenance building 405 00:21:53,266 --> 00:21:54,100 That's out there. 406 00:21:54,433 --> 00:21:58,333 That'll have to get reworked so that it runs along the cart path instead 407 00:21:58,867 --> 00:22:02,066 cuz right now it's running through what will be our proposed lots. 408 00:22:02,667 --> 00:22:05,734 Lots.And then a small section of the cart path will also have to get 409 00:22:05,734 --> 00:22:07,000 relocated in this area. 410 00:22:07,834 --> 00:22:09,266 So you can see the existing cart path here. 411 00:22:10,300 --> 00:22:13,000 This is the only section that we'll get impact and an only to be 412 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,266 relocated to kind of connect the existing. 413 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,900 To the existing, instead of running through our proposed road. 414 00:22:20,133 --> 00:22:23,734 Also within the right of way along JD hill Ave, there are some trees 415 00:22:23,734 --> 00:22:25,900 in that area, as well as some fencing. 416 00:22:26,667 --> 00:22:29,000 That we'll all have to get pushed back to the west onto the country 417 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,734 club side of the right of white line. 418 00:22:33,433 --> 00:22:35,033 So this is our proposed yield plan. 419 00:22:35,467 --> 00:22:38,166 It's 14 lots again, very similar to what you saw before. 420 00:22:38,300 --> 00:22:39,567 We did make some minor tweaks. 421 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,033 Tweaks to it. 422 00:22:40,033 --> 00:22:42,567 Based on some comments we received at our last meeting. 423 00:22:43,634 --> 00:22:46,033 But we do have 14 lots, which are all the, the. 424 00:22:47,066 --> 00:22:50,300 Required conventional size per the zoning within the R two district. 425 00:22:52,166 --> 00:22:55,033 And then this is our proposed cluster subdivision plan. 426 00:22:55,834 --> 00:22:59,166 So you can see the lots are all clustered together on this Western side 427 00:22:59,266 --> 00:23:00,100 of the wetland. 428 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:01,767 Which is in this area 429 00:23:02,533 --> 00:23:08,000 and we're proposing about 50% just under, I think it's 49.9% open space. 430 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,166 So we're proposing more open space than is actually required for the ordinance. 431 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,500 But we do have that area available. 432 00:23:14,634 --> 00:23:16,734 So we're proposing all of that as open space. 433 00:23:17,533 --> 00:23:20,767 And the only thing I will mention is that the golf course does, will 434 00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:23,900 continue to utilize the space that is currently their tee box. 435 00:23:24,166 --> 00:23:25,433 That will be part of the. 436 00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:27,133 Open space that will be an easement to them. 437 00:23:28,033 --> 00:23:32,066 Which is consistent with the rules of what's allowed within the open space, including 438 00:23:32,333 --> 00:23:33,000 recreation. 439 00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:37,033 The proposed road is about a thousand feet long, but that includes. 440 00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:40,166 Includes about 200 feet of road that we'll need to get upgraded. 441 00:23:41,133 --> 00:23:42,367 Upgraded on the end of JD hill Ave. 442 00:23:42,467 --> 00:23:45,266 Like I mentioned before, that will have to get widened for this project. 443 00:23:45,367 --> 00:23:46,000 Just so it's. 444 00:23:47,066 --> 00:23:50,266 It's accessible for the 14 lots as well as the two existing homes on 445 00:23:50,266 --> 00:23:50,834 that road. 446 00:23:51,834 --> 00:23:54,300 And we do also propose a stop sign at the end of the road 447 00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:57,000 because currently this is almost like a three-way intersection. 448 00:23:58,033 --> 00:24:01,000 Between the two sections of JD hill, lab, and Webster Ave. 449 00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:04,367 So, and right now it's, it's just the two homes there. 450 00:24:04,634 --> 00:24:08,734 So that's served its purpose for the time being, but with an additional 14 451 00:24:08,734 --> 00:24:10,100 homes, we felt it. 452 00:24:10,300 --> 00:24:12,300 Was necessary to add an additional stop sign there. 453 00:24:14,433 --> 00:24:16,100 This is our proposed grading plan. 454 00:24:16,033 --> 00:24:17,333 So we're proposing some. 455 00:24:18,300 --> 00:24:23,066 Drainage upgrades at the intersection of JD hill Ave, as well as sloping. 456 00:24:23,834 --> 00:24:27,533 The proposed road into our site and we have several catch basins along our 457 00:24:27,533 --> 00:24:28,834 road to collect drainage. 458 00:24:28,834 --> 00:24:31,066 That actually comes down the hill from the golf course. 459 00:24:31,834 --> 00:24:34,834 And will be graded to come down the road into our catch basin so 460 00:24:34,834 --> 00:24:35,433 we can help to. 461 00:24:36,166 --> 00:24:39,100 Mitigate some of the drainage issues that are currently occurring at that intersection. 462 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,100 And then we have two proposed stormwater basins. 463 00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:46,734 These are bio retention with internal storage reservoirs that provide 464 00:24:47,433 --> 00:24:48,033 stormwater. 465 00:24:48,367 --> 00:24:51,634 Peak flow attenuation as well as treatment of the runoff. 466 00:24:52,567 --> 00:24:53,834 And those catch basins will direct. 467 00:24:54,867 --> 00:24:57,767 That runoff into those areas to be treated and infiltrate and infiltrated. 468 00:24:59,133 --> 00:25:02,734 We do have some wetland buffer impacts, which are shown in the green, in 469 00:25:02,734 --> 00:25:04,734 the orange and pink on the plan. 470 00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:07,100 Which are temporary impacts only. 471 00:25:07,233 --> 00:25:08,033 These are for. 472 00:25:08,934 --> 00:25:12,100 Construction, basically, if the back burns of these ponds and those will all be 473 00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:15,066 re-vegetated as part of the project, once that is complete. 474 00:25:16,033 --> 00:25:18,333 We do have also have two small wetland crossings. 475 00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:19,867 One is located right here. 476 00:25:20,767 --> 00:25:24,033 And the second is right here, and that is for us to tie into 477 00:25:24,033 --> 00:25:26,734 sewer, which I'll speak about on the next slide. 478 00:25:29,433 --> 00:25:31,634 So this plan shows our proposed utilities. 479 00:25:32,767 --> 00:25:34,266 The water will connect to. 480 00:25:35,066 --> 00:25:37,767 The end of JD Hila and come up through the site and loop around 481 00:25:38,667 --> 00:25:41,867 There's some studies that we need to look into at the request of D 482 00:25:41,867 --> 00:25:43,567 P w that came up at TRC. 483 00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:44,900 So we'll need to look into that. 484 00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:48,033 And then we did propose a cross country sewer line. 485 00:25:48,033 --> 00:25:49,433 Like we mentioned at our last meeting 486 00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:53,533 that we'll have to be approved by the select board because there's this there's 487 00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:56,533 There's two properties down here that are actually owned by the town of Exeter 488 00:25:57,734 --> 00:26:01,133 And the closest sewer manhole is down here off at the end of Webster 489 00:26:01,133 --> 00:26:02,567 Ave, which is much, much lower. 490 00:26:03,634 --> 00:26:06,734 Than the manhole that is up at the top of Webster Ave. 491 00:26:07,066 --> 00:26:09,066 This manhole is also very shallow. 492 00:26:09,467 --> 00:26:11,433 So in order to allow us to connect to. 493 00:26:12,033 --> 00:26:12,734 Sewer with gravity flow. 494 00:26:13,133 --> 00:26:16,133 We have to come down the hill and connect to that manhole, which is 495 00:26:16,133 --> 00:26:17,533 at the end of Webster Ave. 496 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,166 So that is really what the two. 497 00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:22,033 Wetland buffer or wetland. 498 00:26:22,867 --> 00:26:25,033 Impacts that we propose are shown on 499 00:26:25,533 --> 00:26:28,166 C2 or four is for those, those sewer crossings. 500 00:26:29,133 --> 00:26:29,133 Crossings. 501 00:26:31,166 --> 00:26:34,000 We have a lighting plan here that shows we just have a couple of 502 00:26:34,066 --> 00:26:34,834 proposed streetlights. 503 00:26:34,834 --> 00:26:37,066 There's actually currently one at the end of. 504 00:26:37,533 --> 00:26:39,133 JD hill, lab and Webster a intersection. 505 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,300 So we're just proposing to replace that one in the same location on the 506 00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:43,533 pole. 507 00:26:43,567 --> 00:26:44,667 Once that's relocated. 508 00:26:45,533 --> 00:26:47,533 And then we proposed our cluster mailbox unit. 509 00:26:48,367 --> 00:26:49,667 Right here at the entrance to our road. 510 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:53,033 So we have one light there as well as one at the end of 511 00:26:53,033 --> 00:26:53,533 the intersection. 512 00:26:56,900 --> 00:26:58,266 This is our landscaping plan. 513 00:26:58,300 --> 00:27:02,433 So we proposed street trees along the road on both sides as required. 514 00:27:02,867 --> 00:27:03,433 Required per the regulations. 515 00:27:03,533 --> 00:27:05,634 And then we also do have pretty substantial 516 00:27:06,333 --> 00:27:08,367 buffer planting along the. 517 00:27:09,133 --> 00:27:12,300 Country club property line, which is where those current trees are that we'll have 518 00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:13,000 to get cut down. 519 00:27:13,533 --> 00:27:16,066 So that will be to replace those in order to screen 520 00:27:16,667 --> 00:27:17,000 the country. 521 00:27:17,533 --> 00:27:19,533 Club from the two homes that are on Janie hill Ave. 522 00:27:22,166 --> 00:27:24,033 And then we just have our truck training plans. 523 00:27:24,934 --> 00:27:25,000 Plans. 524 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,634 This is the roadway profile, so you can see. 525 00:27:27,433 --> 00:27:28,100 Starting here. 526 00:27:28,467 --> 00:27:32,533 The road is sloped down into our site entirely with catch basins, to pick 527 00:27:32,533 --> 00:27:35,100 up the drainage as it comes down into our site. 528 00:27:37,367 --> 00:27:39,634 And then this is that cross-country sewer. 529 00:27:40,567 --> 00:27:40,567 Profile. 530 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,133 So you can see how much the. 531 00:27:43,066 --> 00:27:46,100 Grade changes between the top of the street and. 532 00:27:47,066 --> 00:27:48,367 Down at the end of Webster Ave. 533 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,433 And then we just have our detail plans. 534 00:27:55,634 --> 00:27:56,867 Plans.So that's really an overview of the project 535 00:27:57,734 --> 00:28:00,533 we wanted to come before you, even though we didn't have time to revise 536 00:28:00,533 --> 00:28:03,533 our plans per the TRC meeting, which was a couple of weeks ago. 537 00:28:04,033 --> 00:28:07,066 Because we knew that when we were here for the design review, the board 538 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,133 did wanna do a site walk. 539 00:28:08,133 --> 00:28:10,100 So we wanted to make sure that we came to you and. 540 00:28:11,066 --> 00:28:13,166 Possibly could get that scheduled so that we could. 541 00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:17,100 Do the sidewalk revise the plans and then come back before you and have 542 00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:17,567 everything. 543 00:28:18,667 --> 00:28:21,100 Situated so that you can ask more questions then. 544 00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:25,000 And we also do have to go before the conservation commission, like Dave mentioned 545 00:28:40,033 --> 00:28:40,767 Is that it for now? 546 00:28:41,033 --> 00:28:41,300 Yes. 547 00:28:41,467 --> 00:28:41,834 Okay. 548 00:28:41,834 --> 00:28:42,066 Yeah. 549 00:28:42,066 --> 00:28:43,533 We can answer any questions that you might have. 550 00:28:43,834 --> 00:28:44,000 Okay. 551 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:45,433 Ms chair. 552 00:28:45,433 --> 00:28:48,900 Could I just ask one question you need to go before the select board 553 00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:51,333 of you spoken to the chair about getting on the agenda yet? 554 00:28:51,533 --> 00:28:52,300 We have not yet. 555 00:28:52,367 --> 00:28:52,867 I believe. 556 00:28:53,133 --> 00:28:56,133 That Kevin mom is working on a letter to request to be on their 557 00:28:56,133 --> 00:28:56,500 agenda. 558 00:28:57,333 --> 00:28:59,100 Okay, so you don't know when that's going out. 559 00:28:59,433 --> 00:29:01,634 I'm not sure when that, when that will be scheduled. 560 00:29:02,467 --> 00:29:02,667 Okay. 561 00:29:03,634 --> 00:29:06,333 Hopefully prior to they're kind of half probably should happen. 562 00:29:07,233 --> 00:29:08,333 Yes, sooner than later, right? 563 00:29:08,567 --> 00:29:12,066 It's one of those chicken before the egg things, because we also feel that 564 00:29:12,066 --> 00:29:15,066 the select board may not want to approve it until the planning. 565 00:29:15,634 --> 00:29:16,100 Board has it all. 566 00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:20,033 I definitely, yeah, no, I, I think you need, like, I treat it as 567 00:29:20,033 --> 00:29:20,100 like, 568 00:29:21,133 --> 00:29:21,834 forget the town owns it. 569 00:29:22,233 --> 00:29:23,333 If you were going through. 570 00:29:24,166 --> 00:29:25,100 Doug Eastman's lot, right? 571 00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:25,266 Yeah. 572 00:29:25,266 --> 00:29:25,433 Yeah. 573 00:29:25,433 --> 00:29:25,567 Yeah. 574 00:29:25,734 --> 00:29:28,533 You'd you'd need to get approval before you got approval from the planning. 575 00:29:28,533 --> 00:29:28,900 Right. 576 00:29:29,166 --> 00:29:32,133 So I, I don't want to like muddy the waters by who owns. 577 00:29:32,567 --> 00:29:32,667 Owns it right. 578 00:29:32,834 --> 00:29:35,133 It's just get approval before approval here. 579 00:29:35,166 --> 00:29:36,033 That's what I would say. 580 00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:39,133 And the, the sorry, Mr. Chair. 581 00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:41,133 No, no. So that agenda. 582 00:29:42,634 --> 00:29:45,066 Is very well planned out for the select board. 583 00:29:45,033 --> 00:29:48,500 So you really wanna get that loaded to the chair sooner than later. 584 00:29:49,533 --> 00:29:51,734 So he can give you an idea when he can fit that in. 585 00:29:51,834 --> 00:29:52,000 Okay. 586 00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:53,000 Thank you. 587 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,266 Thank you. 588 00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:53,867 Thank you. 589 00:29:54,667 --> 00:29:56,133 You have any questions from the board at this time? 590 00:29:57,700 --> 00:29:58,667 I'm gonna have the audience. 591 00:29:59,033 --> 00:30:00,367 Well, I'm asking if you have questions or not. 592 00:30:00,634 --> 00:30:01,533 I have questions, but I'll wait. 593 00:30:01,533 --> 00:30:02,433 You wanna hear from them first? 594 00:30:02,567 --> 00:30:02,900 Yeah, 595 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:03,900 I'm good. 596 00:30:04,934 --> 00:30:05,533 You good over here, you. 597 00:30:07,166 --> 00:30:09,367 I'm gonna open it up to the members of the public to speak. 598 00:30:10,667 --> 00:30:11,367 Please come to the podium. 599 00:30:11,667 --> 00:30:11,900 Yes. 600 00:30:12,033 --> 00:30:12,500 If you can. 601 00:30:13,767 --> 00:30:14,567 You want us to bring you? 602 00:30:14,567 --> 00:30:16,000 We can bring you the mic if you'd like. 603 00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:21,266 No state your name and your address, please, and speak clearly in the mic 604 00:30:21,266 --> 00:30:22,266 and speak to the board. 605 00:30:22,367 --> 00:30:23,266 Not to the applicant. 606 00:30:24,233 --> 00:30:24,767 Thank you. 607 00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:30,834 Apologize 608 00:30:34,033 --> 00:30:34,133 familiar. 609 00:30:34,533 --> 00:30:35,000 Sorry. 610 00:30:36,367 --> 00:30:37,834 Move the piece transport. 611 00:30:38,066 --> 00:30:40,066 It's a four-way intersection where you can go. 612 00:30:41,066 --> 00:30:42,000 I'm sorry, sir, sir. 613 00:30:41,133 --> 00:30:41,000 Coming off. 614 00:30:42,667 --> 00:30:43,066 Oh, sorry. 615 00:30:44,033 --> 00:30:44,567 Please introduce yourself. 616 00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:46,033 I am Greg McCarthy. 617 00:30:46,033 --> 00:30:48,100 I live at four Webster avenue. 618 00:30:49,133 --> 00:30:50,100 I live on approximate. 619 00:30:51,634 --> 00:30:53,033 One acre, which you right about there. 620 00:30:54,133 --> 00:30:55,533 That appear to have the longest. 621 00:30:56,367 --> 00:30:59,266 Shared residential property line that abuts this project. 622 00:31:02,066 --> 00:31:06,367 I have spoken previously in front of this board where I spoke conditionally in 623 00:31:06,367 --> 00:31:07,066 favor of. 624 00:31:08,033 --> 00:31:12,066 The original clubhouse replacement effort, that condition being. 625 00:31:13,133 --> 00:31:17,100 Getting some of these storm water and drainage taken care of. 626 00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:20,500 That has affected our neighborhood for decades. 627 00:31:22,767 --> 00:31:23,567 My purpose today. 628 00:31:23,667 --> 00:31:24,367 Why am I here? 629 00:31:25,367 --> 00:31:27,066 Why was this important to me? 630 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,133 I want to put this project into a current and historical perspective so that 631 00:31:32,133 --> 00:31:34,133 the abutter concerns that you're gonna hear tonight. 632 00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:37,834 Can be viewed in the appropriate context. 633 00:31:39,166 --> 00:31:43,300 I'm gonna start chronologically and speak somewhat generally, but I think I'll be able 634 00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:44,567 to get my point across. 635 00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:47,767 Jumping it back in time. 636 00:31:48,567 --> 00:31:51,667 World war II ended and a bunch of houses has got built up in 637 00:31:51,667 --> 00:31:52,667 the Jada hill neighborhood. 638 00:31:52,834 --> 00:31:53,567 Mine included 639 00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:55,266 1946. 640 00:31:57,500 --> 00:31:58,033 Excuse me. 641 00:31:59,767 --> 00:32:00,433 My understanding. 642 00:32:01,333 --> 00:32:02,667 At the time is that JD hill. 643 00:32:03,634 --> 00:32:07,100 That neighborhood Webster Ave, the golf course parking lot. 644 00:32:07,033 --> 00:32:09,500 Those were all dirt roads back in the day. 645 00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:13,066 At some point Webster avenue got paid. 646 00:32:13,233 --> 00:32:15,634 I'm guessing that was probably in the 1950s. 647 00:32:16,767 --> 00:32:17,000 Fifties in some level 648 00:32:18,133 --> 00:32:18,166 of. 649 00:32:19,233 --> 00:32:23,066 Storm water drainage or runoff drainage, whatever you want to call it was installed 650 00:32:25,033 --> 00:32:25,634 Later on. 651 00:32:26,667 --> 00:32:30,000 At some point I want to get, I, I don't have the exact date 652 00:32:30,133 --> 00:32:31,066 but the town of Exeter. 653 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,133 Allowed and approved the golf course to pave their current parking lot. 654 00:32:36,467 --> 00:32:38,667 There was no evidence that I know of. 655 00:32:40,367 --> 00:32:42,033 That showed that the town. 656 00:32:43,066 --> 00:32:45,634 Improved the local infrastructure to account for. 657 00:32:46,467 --> 00:32:46,867 Or mitigate 658 00:32:47,867 --> 00:32:51,266 the effects of paving this lot when it comes to the amount of runoff 659 00:32:52,166 --> 00:32:55,500 And, and drainage issues that our neighborhood has. 660 00:32:57,667 --> 00:32:58,767 You know, as you all know, 661 00:32:59,634 --> 00:33:00,567 time has passed since then. 662 00:33:00,767 --> 00:33:02,133 And our weather has gotten worse. 663 00:33:03,066 --> 00:33:07,634 The amount of storms, their frequency and severity have gotten much worse over time 664 00:33:08,767 --> 00:33:12,066 And as a result of this combination of circumstances, 665 00:33:13,133 --> 00:33:14,300 the lay of the land has changed. 666 00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:17,567 You'll see, like my lot, for example, 667 00:33:18,467 --> 00:33:19,767 used to be somewhat level. 668 00:33:20,767 --> 00:33:24,333 It used to be a baseball field where their neighborhood kids played ball. 669 00:33:25,133 --> 00:33:29,100 At for a long time, it was a pasture where horses were raised. 670 00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:30,100 Raised 671 00:33:31,033 --> 00:33:32,033 the current conditions. 672 00:33:32,934 --> 00:33:36,033 On my lot, make none of these activities possible today. 673 00:33:40,133 --> 00:33:43,533 This storm drainage that we do have leftover from the original. 674 00:33:44,367 --> 00:33:46,066 Paving effort from way back when. 675 00:33:47,066 --> 00:33:49,133 It's honestly, almost never maintained. 676 00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:51,166 I've lost track of how many times. 677 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,300 Over the years, not this year, not last year, but over all the years 678 00:33:56,166 --> 00:34:00,300 That I've cleaned up the storm range, that Doug has other neighbors as well 679 00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:06,033 Doesn't sound important now, but I'll loop back to that later on. 680 00:34:08,033 --> 00:34:09,734 In more recent times. 681 00:34:10,667 --> 00:34:13,100 Things continued in this general direction. 682 00:34:14,867 --> 00:34:18,634 When Webster Ave was repaved a couple of years ago. 683 00:34:19,634 --> 00:34:24,533 The crown of the road itself changed quite dramatically and pushed even more water 684 00:34:25,333 --> 00:34:27,066 To the Northern side of Webster avenue. 685 00:34:28,033 --> 00:34:31,367 And I doubt very much that the road, as it currently exists. 686 00:34:32,367 --> 00:34:36,000 Exists meets current D O T specifications for what? 687 00:34:36,033 --> 00:34:37,133 The crown of a road. 688 00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:38,166 Should be 689 00:34:40,634 --> 00:34:42,500 I've looked at ears worth of meeting minutes. 690 00:34:43,233 --> 00:34:45,634 Other documentation that show categorically. 691 00:34:46,467 --> 00:34:48,033 The problem that I'm discussing today. 692 00:34:49,133 --> 00:34:53,300 The stormwater runoff and drainage issues have been well understood by the town of 693 00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:54,266 Exeter for decades. 694 00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:57,867 It's not a surprise or a matter of debate. 695 00:34:58,100 --> 00:34:59,000 It's a known fact. 696 00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:03,066 As evidenced by the record itself, which sits on the town website. 697 00:35:04,066 --> 00:35:07,500 And we have a critical town employee who everyone in here knows. 698 00:35:08,567 --> 00:35:09,767 Knows who has lived through this problem. 699 00:35:10,867 --> 00:35:13,500 Decade over decade as it runs through his backyard. 700 00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:16,266 Getting closer and closer to his basement. 701 00:35:19,934 --> 00:35:20,133 Sorry. 702 00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:22,300 Recently 703 00:35:23,233 --> 00:35:23,266 over 704 00:35:24,133 --> 00:35:27,000 unanimous neighborhood opposition, the town approved. 705 00:35:27,834 --> 00:35:30,100 That housing project off of Haven lane. 706 00:35:31,066 --> 00:35:33,033 The one that sits between Haven lane and Portsmouth avenue. 707 00:35:34,333 --> 00:35:35,333 I don't know what it's called. 708 00:35:36,367 --> 00:35:37,066 I call it the Gulag, 709 00:35:38,133 --> 00:35:39,500 cuz that's what it looks like to me. 710 00:35:40,567 --> 00:35:42,533 The Haven league neighborhood was ruined. 711 00:35:43,433 --> 00:35:44,667 And the town blessed it. 712 00:35:46,467 --> 00:35:52,266 That project should speak volumes about our collective reluctance for new construction and our 713 00:35:52,266 --> 00:35:52,567 literal. 714 00:35:53,533 --> 00:35:53,834 Backyards. 715 00:35:56,066 --> 00:36:00,266 Even more recently, the town of had an opportunity to not only rectify. 716 00:36:01,333 --> 00:36:03,767 Past mistakes on JD hill, but to catch up. 717 00:36:04,567 --> 00:36:06,066 The entire neighborhood infrastructure. 718 00:36:07,133 --> 00:36:08,333 The pumping station project. 719 00:36:09,567 --> 00:36:14,000 Instead of taking advantage of the fact that the entire storm drainage system was 720 00:36:14,033 --> 00:36:17,166 dug up and exposed for the world to see where were. 721 00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:19,367 They nine feet wide and eight feet deep. 722 00:36:20,166 --> 00:36:21,500 For the length of Webster avenue. 723 00:36:23,700 --> 00:36:27,734 The town didn't do anything else except going there and do the pumping station 724 00:36:27,734 --> 00:36:28,000 project. 725 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,367 Our yards were torn up. 726 00:36:32,734 --> 00:36:34,767 Invasive plant species were introduced. 727 00:36:35,634 --> 00:36:37,533 And nothing else was accomplished. 728 00:36:38,467 --> 00:36:42,300 We're left with the same drainage and runoff problems that we had before this 729 00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:43,066 project started. 730 00:36:44,033 --> 00:36:45,066 About a, what a year ago. 731 00:36:46,433 --> 00:36:48,333 And I referenced the start of the project. 732 00:36:49,333 --> 00:36:50,000 For a reason. 733 00:36:51,634 --> 00:36:55,033 It's one of the most compelling ways to ensure that the board understands how 734 00:36:55,133 --> 00:36:56,500 we are feeling right now. 735 00:36:57,533 --> 00:36:59,433 This pumping station station, project. 736 00:37:00,166 --> 00:37:02,000 Appears to still be incomplete. 737 00:37:02,867 --> 00:37:05,000 Every day we're dodging at least four pylons. 738 00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:06,667 Pylons set up in our roads 739 00:37:07,367 --> 00:37:08,767 that are protecting. 740 00:37:10,533 --> 00:37:11,867 Holes in the asphalt. 741 00:37:12,767 --> 00:37:12,767 Asphalt 742 00:37:14,066 --> 00:37:15,000 and it's dangerous. 743 00:37:17,133 --> 00:37:20,133 But I, I point this out to also point out one other thing. 744 00:37:21,033 --> 00:37:24,066 During this same timeframe of the pumping station project. 745 00:37:25,133 --> 00:37:27,634 The town manages to start and then finish. 746 00:37:28,367 --> 00:37:28,367 Completely 747 00:37:29,066 --> 00:37:31,000 roundabout on the other side of town. 748 00:37:32,634 --> 00:37:35,500 And I, you know, to me, that's a pretty good example. 749 00:37:36,367 --> 00:37:38,634 Of why we feel like our neighborhood. 750 00:37:39,634 --> 00:37:40,767 Is being neglected. 751 00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:42,066 And ignored. 752 00:37:48,734 --> 00:37:51,033 Everything I've said so far leads to this. 753 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,767 Given the facts and circumstances, I've just laid out. 754 00:37:55,734 --> 00:38:00,100 Why should we trust anything coming from the developer or the town? 755 00:38:00,767 --> 00:38:01,066 For that matter 756 00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:02,100 clearly. 757 00:38:03,066 --> 00:38:06,433 And for decades now, no one has been taking our needs seriously, and I 758 00:38:06,433 --> 00:38:07,834 believe this needs to change. 759 00:38:08,767 --> 00:38:10,834 We have a town leadership and committees. 760 00:38:12,033 --> 00:38:13,900 Committees that are all about putting beautiful granite curbs. 761 00:38:14,867 --> 00:38:18,266 Curbs in certain neighborhoods while JD hill has no curbs at all. 762 00:38:19,233 --> 00:38:21,333 And the LA this lack of infrastructure. 763 00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:24,900 Is having a huge negative impact on our properties. 764 00:38:29,066 --> 00:38:31,033 The plants that have been shown here today. 765 00:38:32,133 --> 00:38:32,333 You know, 766 00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:34,867 who knows. 767 00:38:36,166 --> 00:38:36,533 Knows I, 768 00:38:37,367 --> 00:38:37,867 to me 769 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,433 this looks like another opportunity for a whole lot more water to come running 770 00:38:43,467 --> 00:38:44,367 down our streets. 771 00:38:45,133 --> 00:38:45,333 And 772 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,367 I, I, we all have video of what this place looks like, what our 773 00:38:51,367 --> 00:38:52,033 road looks like. 774 00:38:52,934 --> 00:38:55,033 When the rain hits, it's not pretty. 775 00:38:56,033 --> 00:38:58,767 And I understand, I totally understand the purpose. 776 00:38:59,634 --> 00:39:00,133 Of having to, 777 00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:02,033 you know, like last meeting. 778 00:39:03,066 --> 00:39:07,433 Discussed for an extensive period of time, the use of nesting boxes for someone 779 00:39:07,667 --> 00:39:08,166 else's project. 780 00:39:08,634 --> 00:39:09,066 I get that. 781 00:39:09,333 --> 00:39:10,900 I understand why that's important. 782 00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:12,567 But 783 00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:17,567 using Haven lane, as our example, at some point we have to prioritize. 784 00:39:18,467 --> 00:39:21,066 The needs and the requirements, the basic. 785 00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:25,667 Infrastructure requirements of the people who have lived here in faithfully paid. 786 00:39:26,467 --> 00:39:30,500 Exeter rising property taxes for years and years on end. 787 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:32,100 I mean 788 00:39:33,533 --> 00:39:34,667 that that's where we're at. 789 00:39:36,567 --> 00:39:37,100 This project. 790 00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:40,667 Has forced me to learn a whole bunch of new words and phrases that 791 00:39:40,767 --> 00:39:42,166 I didn't wanna have to get into. 792 00:39:43,066 --> 00:39:43,567 Things like 793 00:39:44,533 --> 00:39:45,367 ministerial failure. 794 00:39:46,367 --> 00:39:48,000 Constitutional property protections. 795 00:39:48,934 --> 00:39:50,367 Private nuisance and trespass. 796 00:39:51,433 --> 00:39:54,433 Trespass specific negligence, reasonable use doctrine. 797 00:39:55,233 --> 00:39:56,567 Invested property interest. 798 00:39:57,533 --> 00:39:59,033 As I stated emphatically. 799 00:39:59,834 --> 00:40:03,100 The last time I spoke before this board, my goal is to be a 800 00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:04,667 partner with a town of Exeter. 801 00:40:05,634 --> 00:40:07,867 It's just getting harder and harder. 802 00:40:08,133 --> 00:40:09,900 I don't want to be in opposition. 803 00:40:10,667 --> 00:40:10,900 But 804 00:40:12,266 --> 00:40:13,834 if this project goes forward, 805 00:40:15,533 --> 00:40:17,100 something has to be done. 806 00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:20,000 To fix the problems that we have had. 807 00:40:20,934 --> 00:40:21,066 For decades 808 00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:26,667 instead of just being ignored again and being left to deal with the ramifications 809 00:40:26,734 --> 00:40:27,567 of another project. 810 00:40:28,567 --> 00:40:29,834 That impacts our neighborhood. 811 00:40:33,133 --> 00:40:34,533 So that's all I've got to say. 812 00:40:36,634 --> 00:40:39,333 The only other thing I can think of based on what we. 813 00:40:40,367 --> 00:40:43,533 Just heard is whether or not the property site visit. 814 00:40:44,567 --> 00:40:45,133 The site walk. 815 00:40:45,133 --> 00:40:46,066 Is that what we called it? 816 00:40:47,066 --> 00:40:49,033 Whether or not that sidewalk was going to. 817 00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:52,767 Include an actual site walk of Webster avenue. 818 00:40:53,533 --> 00:40:53,533 Itself. 819 00:40:55,867 --> 00:40:57,033 I, I would strongly 820 00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:00,734 recommend that that happens so that you can see. 821 00:41:01,533 --> 00:41:05,634 The downstream impact from projects at the top of the hill, before we start 822 00:41:05,634 --> 00:41:09,266 cutting down trees and widening roads and all that other stuff. 823 00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:11,033 We can show you firsthand. 824 00:41:12,133 --> 00:41:15,767 What it looks like when we don't have enough infrastructure in place. 825 00:41:16,567 --> 00:41:18,834 To handle basic neighborhood requirements. 826 00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:20,900 And that's all I've got. 827 00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:21,567 Thanks for your time. 828 00:41:21,734 --> 00:41:22,333 I appreciate it. 829 00:41:23,233 --> 00:41:23,266 Thank you. 830 00:41:30,066 --> 00:41:31,100 I think it will. 831 00:41:32,033 --> 00:41:33,634 Include Webster Ave considering the access. 832 00:41:33,634 --> 00:41:34,667 We'll probably end a parking. 833 00:41:35,433 --> 00:41:36,333 I would think at the clubhouse. 834 00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:37,734 Generally 835 00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:40,000 and walking over. 836 00:41:40,934 --> 00:41:41,767 When we do the site walk 837 00:41:43,367 --> 00:41:44,500 that'll the site walk. 838 00:41:45,333 --> 00:41:45,834 Sidewalk time.Indeed. 839 00:41:45,834 --> 00:41:49,100 If you can't make it to the end of the meeting will be on 840 00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:51,767 the website once we have it established, but it will be determined tonight. 841 00:41:52,767 --> 00:41:54,300 Anybody else in the public wanna speak? 842 00:41:57,433 --> 00:41:59,500 Again, please introduce yourself and your address. 843 00:42:01,033 --> 00:42:05,133 My name is Gail Morse and I live at 73 JD hill avenue. 844 00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:09,033 And I was living there when they put in. 845 00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:10,333 The paved 846 00:42:11,333 --> 00:42:13,900 driveway at the country club and believe me. 847 00:42:14,867 --> 00:42:18,000 Oftentimes, they put it in an August day. 848 00:42:19,066 --> 00:42:20,567 In the nineties, I'd have to. 849 00:42:21,533 --> 00:42:21,767 Find out 850 00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:23,100 exactly. 851 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,300 But it was put in, in the nineties. 852 00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:27,000 Nineties.And when it rains. 853 00:42:28,567 --> 00:42:31,767 Rains.It jumps right over the, the storm drain. 854 00:42:32,767 --> 00:42:36,834 It, it comes down so fast and if they do a sidewalk, if they 855 00:42:36,834 --> 00:42:37,266 ever do. 856 00:42:38,133 --> 00:42:41,033 I would suggest they come on a rainy day. 857 00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:43,433 Because that's what you're gonna see. 858 00:42:44,166 --> 00:42:44,834 You'll see it. 859 00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:48,500 I'm lucky I don't get water in my basement. 860 00:42:49,333 --> 00:42:50,333 But I'm the top of the hill. 861 00:42:52,433 --> 00:42:53,734 But I know my neighbors. 862 00:42:55,066 --> 00:42:55,133 Neighbors have been 863 00:42:56,433 --> 00:42:57,634 affected by this. 864 00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:01,834 It's disappointing to see. 865 00:43:03,133 --> 00:43:03,834 14 houses. 866 00:43:04,133 --> 00:43:05,100 Why 14? 867 00:43:05,233 --> 00:43:06,634 Why couldn't it be five? 868 00:43:08,533 --> 00:43:10,000 You know, we, I 869 00:43:11,066 --> 00:43:15,834 I don't know what year we put the new water treatment plant in. 870 00:43:16,567 --> 00:43:18,367 But we've all been paying higher. 871 00:43:18,867 --> 00:43:22,000 It went up probably around 2015. 872 00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:23,066 If I'm not mistaken. 873 00:43:24,033 --> 00:43:24,533 Our water bills. 874 00:43:25,166 --> 00:43:28,533 And now after that meeting that we had the first time. 875 00:43:29,333 --> 00:43:31,433 In back in July on the 14 houses. 876 00:43:33,033 --> 00:43:36,100 They said, oh, we don't longer have to be on. 877 00:43:37,133 --> 00:43:37,834 A number four. 878 00:43:39,233 --> 00:43:40,033 Water ban. 879 00:43:41,533 --> 00:43:42,066 What a coincidence. 880 00:43:42,433 --> 00:43:42,734 I think. 881 00:43:45,533 --> 00:43:48,734 I'm just disappointed that that they're ruining. 882 00:43:49,533 --> 00:43:51,033 That neighborhood, our neighborhood. 883 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:52,533 I've lived there 884 00:43:53,734 --> 00:43:54,433 a number of years. 885 00:43:55,233 --> 00:43:56,033 And it's been nice. 886 00:43:57,533 --> 00:43:57,533 Quiet 887 00:43:58,734 --> 00:43:59,567 seeing children. 888 00:44:00,367 --> 00:44:00,634 On the 889 00:44:01,266 --> 00:44:02,567 sledding across the street. 890 00:44:02,634 --> 00:44:03,433 Let me ask you. 891 00:44:04,166 --> 00:44:06,634 Are the children still gonna be able to go sledding? 892 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,166 From the hill on the country club. 893 00:44:11,767 --> 00:44:13,000 Will they still be allowed? 894 00:44:14,300 --> 00:44:15,166 To go sledding. 895 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,033 When this new development happens, if it does happen. 896 00:44:21,066 --> 00:44:22,066 Because if it does 897 00:44:23,300 --> 00:44:26,100 oftentimes I've observed many children. 898 00:44:27,066 --> 00:44:27,333 Ending up 899 00:44:28,066 --> 00:44:29,300 in the practice field. 900 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,166 So keep that in mind, keep our children. 901 00:44:33,133 --> 00:44:33,000 Safe. 902 00:44:38,433 --> 00:44:39,734 I think someone in the back. 903 00:44:46,634 --> 00:44:48,133 My name is Janet Mirati. 904 00:44:49,133 --> 00:44:52,634 I live at my husband and I live at 79 JD hill a. 905 00:44:53,533 --> 00:44:56,500 Which would be the last house when they mentioned those two houses. 906 00:44:57,934 --> 00:44:59,100 On the end of the street. 907 00:45:00,133 --> 00:45:01,100 I'm the last house. 908 00:45:03,634 --> 00:45:03,867 And 909 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,433 I wanna express my concerns about the proposed development at the end of our 910 00:45:09,433 --> 00:45:09,867 dead end. 911 00:45:09,934 --> 00:45:11,333 And it is a dead end street. 912 00:45:12,066 --> 00:45:12,634 It's not an. 913 00:45:13,133 --> 00:45:14,033 Empty lot somewhere. 914 00:45:14,467 --> 00:45:16,000 It's a dead end street. 915 00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:20,033 A pair, a dirt path, and then we're driving range. 916 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,767 And before any approvals are granted, I asked the town to require a clear 917 00:45:27,033 --> 00:45:28,133 road widening plan. 918 00:45:29,834 --> 00:45:32,000 Adequate protection from the golf course for us. 919 00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:39,533 A drainage review wildlife protection in a traffic study that addresses pedestrian safety. 920 00:45:39,767 --> 00:45:41,033 We're very walkable. 921 00:45:41,133 --> 00:45:41,533 Community. 922 00:45:43,367 --> 00:45:46,634 They have stated that the road would need to be widened, but. 923 00:45:47,634 --> 00:45:49,533 They say, remove a few trees. 924 00:45:51,467 --> 00:45:53,066 These trees are mature. 925 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,667 In fact, I believe some are registered with the conservation commission. 926 00:45:56,834 --> 00:45:58,367 This is what they, the trees. 927 00:45:58,867 --> 00:45:59,667 That they have to remove. 928 00:46:01,066 --> 00:46:03,834 Which will also increase the drainage. 929 00:46:04,567 --> 00:46:04,567 Issues. 930 00:46:07,033 --> 00:46:07,300 And 931 00:46:09,133 --> 00:46:10,000 in addition to 932 00:46:11,233 --> 00:46:13,634 controlling drainage and erosion. 933 00:46:14,467 --> 00:46:15,033 Because it's a hill, 934 00:46:16,033 --> 00:46:19,900 the golf course comes down a hill that we are across the street from 935 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:20,100 a hill. 936 00:46:24,233 --> 00:46:25,333 It's an important buffer. 937 00:46:26,567 --> 00:46:28,834 Between our homes and the golf course. 938 00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:32,834 They have a safety net, which is really not adequate. 939 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:33,634 We get golf ball. 940 00:46:33,667 --> 00:46:34,667 We all get golf balls. 941 00:46:36,033 --> 00:46:37,767 Balls and this would be gone. 942 00:46:38,166 --> 00:46:39,133 We would have no buffer. 943 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,867 Which means we would have no protection. 944 00:46:44,667 --> 00:46:46,100 And they do mention 945 00:46:46,867 --> 00:46:49,033 I did not, I didn't have a chance to. 946 00:46:50,133 --> 00:46:55,734 Really examine these plans because they were just posted on Tuesday afternoon. 947 00:46:57,367 --> 00:47:01,000 I know they mentioned some kind of a vegetation buffer. 948 00:47:01,900 --> 00:47:02,567 Between Webster a 949 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:04,066 and 950 00:47:04,767 --> 00:47:06,033 the, this development. 951 00:47:07,066 --> 00:47:10,567 But I don't see really anything being worked on. 952 00:47:11,734 --> 00:47:14,066 For the buffer across the street from us. 953 00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:17,500 The other thing 954 00:47:18,467 --> 00:47:21,066 the neighborhood is highly walkable. 955 00:47:22,133 --> 00:47:23,900 Regularly used by dog walkers. 956 00:47:25,133 --> 00:47:26,166 Walkers families, children. 957 00:47:27,634 --> 00:47:28,367 Elderly people. 958 00:47:30,667 --> 00:47:30,900 And 959 00:47:31,533 --> 00:47:35,033 I think that if this were to go through, we would need the sidewalk 960 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:36,066 Extended 961 00:47:37,533 --> 00:47:38,500 when the Gulf 962 00:47:39,233 --> 00:47:42,567 course was going to have their new clubhouse. 963 00:47:42,834 --> 00:47:43,433 I believe. 964 00:47:44,634 --> 00:47:47,266 One of the stipulations was that the sidewalk. 965 00:47:48,166 --> 00:47:50,367 Be extended from where it ends at 966 00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:52,133 Hayes trailer park. 967 00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:56,033 I think that that would have to happen. 968 00:47:56,934 --> 00:47:58,533 In order to protect pedestrians. 969 00:47:59,834 --> 00:48:00,100 Pedestrians and 970 00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:02,834 the other thing too. 971 00:48:02,900 --> 00:48:05,100 And I, I don't think this has been mentioned. 972 00:48:07,066 --> 00:48:10,033 This development will be surrounded by conservation land. 973 00:48:12,433 --> 00:48:13,000 In fact 974 00:48:13,900 --> 00:48:17,166 it in, at the end of this dirt path, that pot of which will 975 00:48:17,166 --> 00:48:18,000 become the erode. 976 00:48:19,066 --> 00:48:19,066 Road. 977 00:48:19,867 --> 00:48:21,066 There's the Irvine. 978 00:48:21,900 --> 00:48:25,834 Conservation area, which is a town owned conservation area. 979 00:48:27,433 --> 00:48:29,667 Those birds and animals. 980 00:48:30,467 --> 00:48:32,100 What will be the impact on them? 981 00:48:33,367 --> 00:48:38,000 Because right now it's a golf course and there's a large wooded area on 982 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,367 the other side of the driving range. 983 00:48:39,367 --> 00:48:41,100 And I have no idea how much of that. 984 00:48:41,333 --> 00:48:44,433 There that there will be removing, but I know some will be removed. 985 00:48:45,533 --> 00:48:45,533 Removed. 986 00:48:46,300 --> 00:48:49,333 And I just wanna end by saying I've lived here. 987 00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:52,900 For almost 30 years, I've raised my children here. 988 00:48:55,033 --> 00:48:58,166 I'm concerned about that this continued development. 989 00:48:59,233 --> 00:49:06,133 Particularly when variances in special considerations are requested, can overlook the safety, affordability and 990 00:49:06,133 --> 00:49:07,000 quality of life. 991 00:49:07,634 --> 00:49:09,767 Concerns of established neighborhoods. 992 00:49:10,867 --> 00:49:10,867 Neighborhoods. 993 00:49:11,033 --> 00:49:13,000 And I know that the town master. 994 00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:13,734 Plan 995 00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:16,100 focuses on 996 00:49:17,133 --> 00:49:20,166 affordable housing and maintaining neighborhood character. 997 00:49:21,133 --> 00:49:22,433 This does neither of those things. 998 00:49:23,300 --> 00:49:23,867 Thank you. 999 00:49:40,567 --> 00:49:40,734 Hi everyone. 1000 00:49:41,300 --> 00:49:45,033 My name is Rebecca Zollner and I live at 71 JD hill Ave. 1001 00:49:45,433 --> 00:49:47,634 And I'm also here to speak on behalf of 1002 00:49:48,266 --> 00:49:48,333 Jennifer. 1003 00:49:48,934 --> 00:49:50,066 Indiana Macon of 67. 1004 00:49:51,066 --> 00:49:54,000 And Maria and John George of 77 Jie hill Ave. 1005 00:49:55,066 --> 00:49:58,100 They couldn't be here tonight because frankly, this meeting is at a tricky time 1006 00:49:58,133 --> 00:49:58,500 for parents, 1007 00:49:59,900 --> 00:50:03,100 you know, it's time of day for dinner and homework and bedtime, but. 1008 00:50:03,233 --> 00:50:06,100 That's life on our street and that's exactly why I am here. 1009 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,100 This is a family neighborhood. 1010 00:50:08,266 --> 00:50:11,100 It always has been, as you know, our neighbors have attested to tonight. 1011 00:50:12,166 --> 00:50:15,500 And we have chosen the street deliberately because it is quiet and safe in 1012 00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:17,734 the kind of place where our kids can be kits. 1013 00:50:18,667 --> 00:50:19,066 Kits and we're here tonight. 1014 00:50:19,266 --> 00:50:21,634 I'm here tonight asking the board to help us protect that. 1015 00:50:23,533 --> 00:50:26,300 I wanna call out something very specifically, because I do think it gets a 1016 00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:27,433 little bit lost in the paperwork. 1017 00:50:27,567 --> 00:50:29,066 We've talked about this dead end a lot. 1018 00:50:30,100 --> 00:50:33,433 But this dead end section of the road is the only safe and flat 1019 00:50:33,433 --> 00:50:35,133 place where our kids to play in this neighborhood. 1020 00:50:37,133 --> 00:50:38,133 Not one of a few options. 1021 00:50:38,300 --> 00:50:40,100 It truly is the only option. 1022 00:50:40,433 --> 00:50:43,767 And in summer evenings, you'll find that dead end is full of kids learning 1023 00:50:43,767 --> 00:50:44,133 how to ride. 1024 00:50:44,567 --> 00:50:46,100 Their bikes and kicking balls. 1025 00:50:46,367 --> 00:50:46,634 And. 1026 00:50:47,433 --> 00:50:50,266 Playing outside with each other while we, as parents can just watch them enjoy 1027 00:50:50,266 --> 00:50:51,300 being outside in the summer. 1028 00:50:52,900 --> 00:50:56,634 It's really the heart of our neighborhood, where friendships are formed and our community 1029 00:50:56,634 --> 00:50:57,266 really happens. 1030 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,433 The surrounding streets carry 1031 00:51:01,133 --> 00:51:03,000 constant traffic from the golf course. 1032 00:51:04,934 --> 00:51:07,033 It's constant and this traffic. 1033 00:51:08,033 --> 00:51:09,100 Of the golf course and its members 1034 00:51:09,667 --> 00:51:13,433 who are also very rarely mindful of the fact that there are kids at 1035 00:51:13,433 --> 00:51:14,500 play in this neighborhood. 1036 00:51:15,533 --> 00:51:18,000 Families have learned to keep our kids away from that side of the street 1037 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,500 And it really is only safe to go up this way. 1038 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,433 So that's where all our kids are going to play. 1039 00:51:23,433 --> 00:51:26,333 And like I said, learning to ride their bikes and playing outside, playing street 1040 00:51:26,333 --> 00:51:29,266 hockey, and just again, being outside and enjoying the. 1041 00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:31,000 Kids because that's 1042 00:51:32,033 --> 00:51:32,033 that's where it's safe. 1043 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,166 And if this development goes through that ends. 1044 00:51:36,367 --> 00:51:37,667 Ends permanently, really for us. 1045 00:51:39,533 --> 00:51:42,166 Like I said, this is we've all said numerous times tonight. 1046 00:51:42,166 --> 00:51:46,734 This is a single entry narrow road and it already carries a lot of 1047 00:51:46,734 --> 00:51:47,066 traffic. 1048 00:51:48,033 --> 00:51:51,333 They're a golf club members and employees who use it daily and often at 1049 00:51:51,333 --> 00:51:51,834 speeds. 1050 00:51:51,834 --> 00:51:55,433 And without the awareness, you would appreciate from anyone who, where kids. 1051 00:51:56,033 --> 00:51:57,000 Are playing or families are living. 1052 00:51:58,767 --> 00:52:00,266 And this develop is not going on. 1053 00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:02,634 Vacantly and you are replacing or driving range. 1054 00:52:02,934 --> 00:52:04,433 The golf traffic doesn't go anywhere. 1055 00:52:04,467 --> 00:52:06,100 This is just more traffic and. 1056 00:52:06,467 --> 00:52:08,834 More cars, interrupting where our kids get to play. 1057 00:52:10,133 --> 00:52:13,433 And we would really ask that an independent traffic study be completed. 1058 00:52:14,500 --> 00:52:16,100 Before any, anything moves forward? 1059 00:52:18,033 --> 00:52:21,667 The drainage we, our, our neighborhood will talk your ear off about drainage. 1060 00:52:21,767 --> 00:52:22,166 It's a problem. 1061 00:52:22,634 --> 00:52:24,834 I won't go into more detail about the drainage. 1062 00:52:26,100 --> 00:52:27,333 But again, we are really asking. 1063 00:52:28,166 --> 00:52:32,033 For an independent drainage or stormwater study, kind of whatever the, the correct term 1064 00:52:32,066 --> 00:52:33,433 for that would be to be. 1065 00:52:34,300 --> 00:52:34,767 Completed. 1066 00:52:35,467 --> 00:52:38,567 And then for any re remediation needed to be paid for by the developer 1067 00:52:38,634 --> 00:52:41,300 we don't feel that this should really come back and affect us as families 1068 00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:42,133 who are already living here. 1069 00:52:44,934 --> 00:52:47,567 You know, as Gail mentioned, we've been living under a water restriction for the 1070 00:52:47,567 --> 00:52:48,266 better part of a year. 1071 00:52:48,266 --> 00:52:49,033 At this point, I believe. 1072 00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:51,500 And every family on the street we've cut back. 1073 00:52:52,567 --> 00:52:54,166 Look at our gardens, they're dead and sad. 1074 00:52:55,367 --> 00:52:59,100 But approving 14 additional homes in the middle of this is just gonna add 1075 00:52:59,166 --> 00:53:02,367 more permanent demand to the water supply that it appears already in crisis. 1076 00:53:04,700 --> 00:53:08,033 So my neighbors trusted me to be here tonight because they couldn't be because 1077 00:53:08,934 --> 00:53:12,100 Knowing that without somebody standing up for us, the interest of this neighborhood can 1078 00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:13,767 get overlooked in a process like this. 1079 00:53:14,667 --> 00:53:16,667 We're not just neighbors in the loose sense of the word. 1080 00:53:16,934 --> 00:53:17,734 We are a community. 1081 00:53:18,467 --> 00:53:19,634 We celebrate holidays together. 1082 00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:21,667 We eat dinner outside together in the summer. 1083 00:53:21,867 --> 00:53:24,667 We catch and get to watch each other's children grow up. 1084 00:53:25,533 --> 00:53:26,634 This didn't happen by chance. 1085 00:53:26,667 --> 00:53:28,033 This didn't happen by accident. 1086 00:53:28,066 --> 00:53:31,333 This happens because this is a type of street where we are, that this 1087 00:53:31,333 --> 00:53:32,000 can happen. 1088 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:33,333 We don't 1089 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,066 are not asking the board to stop all development. 1090 00:53:36,066 --> 00:53:37,767 That's obviously not reasonable. 1091 00:53:38,033 --> 00:53:40,834 We are asking you to think carefully about what gets lost. 1092 00:53:41,133 --> 00:53:43,066 When you change the character of a neighborhood like ours. 1093 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,567 Ours and hoping that you would require an independent, independent traffic drainage and water 1094 00:53:48,567 --> 00:53:51,066 studies before any approval gets granted. 1095 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,500 The big kind of point here is our kids play at that one dead 1096 00:53:54,500 --> 00:53:56,300 end in our families gather there. 1097 00:53:56,433 --> 00:53:57,834 Please help us protect it. 1098 00:53:58,867 --> 00:53:58,900 Thank you. 1099 00:53:59,033 --> 00:53:59,567 Thank you. 1100 00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:21,166 Sherman Chester three Webster avenue. 1101 00:54:22,734 --> 00:54:24,266 I grew up on Webster avenue. 1102 00:54:25,433 --> 00:54:29,133 And have been a neighbor of, of the country club for 71 years. 1103 00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:34,066 I see the changes in neighborhoods around Webster avenue. 1104 00:54:35,066 --> 00:54:36,500 And this proposed development. 1105 00:54:37,533 --> 00:54:40,100 Is unnecessary and detrimental to the neighborhood. 1106 00:54:41,133 --> 00:54:42,867 The town and the country club. 1107 00:54:43,734 --> 00:54:44,734 Exeter country club. 1108 00:54:46,333 --> 00:54:48,266 Coach bill Belichick is what it is. 1109 00:54:49,333 --> 00:54:51,166 Recreational nine hole golf course. 1110 00:54:52,166 --> 00:54:56,000 Now the original clubhouse was destroyed by a tornado in 1953. 1111 00:54:57,133 --> 00:55:00,100 The current clubhouse has been on site and remodeled over the years and serves 1112 00:55:00,133 --> 00:55:00,634 its purpose. 1113 00:55:01,533 --> 00:55:02,667 For nine months of the year. 1114 00:55:03,834 --> 00:55:06,834 The ground crews, they've done a lot to improve the fairways and greens over 1115 00:55:06,834 --> 00:55:08,367 the recent years, but it is not. 1116 00:55:09,133 --> 00:55:13,066 And never will be in the same league as Portsmouth Wentworth, Ana peas and 1117 00:55:13,066 --> 00:55:13,900 on and on and on. 1118 00:55:15,033 --> 00:55:16,567 Years ago, my dad 1119 00:55:17,533 --> 00:55:18,066 and I were both members. 1120 00:55:18,867 --> 00:55:22,834 He aged out and I decided just taking a good walk was less frustrating 1121 00:55:24,166 --> 00:55:28,266 Change inevitable, but let's keep it constructive and not destructive. 1122 00:55:29,333 --> 00:55:31,100 Developers, they're ruining Exeter. 1123 00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:35,734 They're putting an unnecessary burden on the infrastructure and the traffic flow here in 1124 00:55:35,734 --> 00:55:36,000 the town. 1125 00:55:37,133 --> 00:55:38,667 The two main arteries into downtown Exeter. 1126 00:55:38,667 --> 00:55:41,667 They're being clogged by the squall of poorly thought out development. 1127 00:55:42,700 --> 00:55:46,000 And please no one on the various boards here in the town of Exeter 1128 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,433 wants to use the phrase, affordable housing or workforce housing, because that is a 1129 00:55:50,867 --> 00:55:51,066 Fallacy. 1130 00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:55,500 I'd like to see the board members representing Exeter show some restraint in there 1131 00:55:55,533 --> 00:55:56,333 to decision making. 1132 00:55:57,133 --> 00:56:00,367 Realizing the legacy that they're leaving for future generations. 1133 00:56:01,333 --> 00:56:04,300 I, I also realize that native Exeter residents are becoming extinct. 1134 00:56:05,467 --> 00:56:09,000 And some of our children can't afford to live and grow their families right 1135 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:09,533 here in the town. 1136 00:56:09,533 --> 00:56:12,000 They grew up in and keep that process going. 1137 00:56:13,266 --> 00:56:13,433 Progress. 1138 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:14,066 No. 1139 00:56:15,066 --> 00:56:17,500 Keeping the charm in historical significance of Exeter. 1140 00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:18,567 Questionable. 1141 00:56:19,767 --> 00:56:23,333 I asked the board's representing Exeter to put a two letter word in their 1142 00:56:23,533 --> 00:56:24,834 decision making vocabulary. 1143 00:56:24,867 --> 00:56:26,066 And that word is no. 1144 00:56:26,667 --> 00:56:28,100 And if you wanna be polite, you can add, sorry. 1145 00:56:28,133 --> 00:56:28,867 In front of it. 1146 00:56:29,900 --> 00:56:33,867 The developers are ruining Exeter's charm and heritage, and they should be encouraged to 1147 00:56:33,867 --> 00:56:36,500 just pack up their tents and move their circus to another area and put 1148 00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:37,166 their act on there. 1149 00:56:38,100 --> 00:56:41,767 And I hope this board is gonna see this project as ill-advised the Exeter 1150 00:56:41,767 --> 00:56:44,834 country club should be encouraged to come up with an alternative way to get 1151 00:56:44,834 --> 00:56:46,100 themselves an upgraded club. 1152 00:56:46,467 --> 00:56:49,867 Clubhouse the loss of property, including theirs is forever. 1153 00:56:50,667 --> 00:56:53,767 And the ramifications to the town's infrastructure is permanent. 1154 00:56:55,133 --> 00:56:59,533 The new clubhouse, well, commercial loan GoFundMe, maybe a deep pocket member and put 1155 00:56:59,567 --> 00:57:00,834 a plaque on it with their name on it. 1156 00:57:00,934 --> 00:57:01,900 Joe and Mary dokes. 1157 00:57:02,867 --> 00:57:04,300 Dokes.I just hope they haven't cashed their check. 1158 00:57:05,333 --> 00:57:06,634 And compromise their existence. 1159 00:57:07,634 --> 00:57:07,667 Thank you. 1160 00:57:35,066 --> 00:57:35,567 Good evening. 1161 00:57:36,500 --> 00:57:40,033 My name is Doreen Chester and I reside at three Webster Ave. 1162 00:57:41,133 --> 00:57:44,533 My home faces the Exeter country club, not in a butter, but faces. 1163 00:57:45,700 --> 00:57:49,867 Faces and the proposed development would directly affect my quality of life and diminish 1164 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,900 the peaceful character of our close-knit neighborhood. 1165 00:57:54,033 --> 00:57:58,567 I'm here this evening to state my objections to the pro proposal to construct 1166 00:57:59,033 --> 00:57:59,533 14 new single. 1167 00:58:00,367 --> 00:58:02,500 Family homes on the current driving range. 1168 00:58:03,233 --> 00:58:04,133 At extra country club, 1169 00:58:04,900 --> 00:58:06,367 Webster Ave is a dead end road. 1170 00:58:07,433 --> 00:58:10,333 And the road leading to the country club from JD hill and Webster avenues 1171 00:58:10,333 --> 00:58:11,166 is very narrow. 1172 00:58:12,166 --> 00:58:15,066 As somebody mentions, it's a trail and that's really all it is on the 1173 00:58:15,066 --> 00:58:15,634 dirt road. 1174 00:58:16,367 --> 00:58:20,900 To the country club, there is insufficient room for vehicles to pass safely. 1175 00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:24,533 And there are mature trees, as someone mentioned and registered. 1176 00:58:25,333 --> 00:58:27,033 Of which they would have to be removed. 1177 00:58:27,033 --> 00:58:28,166 And I object to that. 1178 00:58:29,133 --> 00:58:32,033 Exeter was recognized as part of tree, city USA. 1179 00:58:32,767 --> 00:58:33,300 In 2019, 1180 00:58:34,367 --> 00:58:36,367 I don't believe that they could hold that. 1181 00:58:37,133 --> 00:58:37,533 Today 1182 00:58:38,233 --> 00:58:38,634 trees. 1183 00:58:39,433 --> 00:58:42,834 Provide privacy neighborhood character, and a sense of peace. 1184 00:58:43,634 --> 00:58:46,066 They also serve essential environmental functions. 1185 00:58:47,066 --> 00:58:50,166 Functions cleaning out air water, providing habits, habitat for wildlife. 1186 00:58:51,233 --> 00:58:54,834 Connecting communities and supporting public health and wellbeing. 1187 00:58:55,834 --> 00:58:59,533 For these reasons I object to further trees being removed from the neighborhood. 1188 00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:01,300 I don't wanna look at the new houses. 1189 00:59:02,166 --> 00:59:05,433 I would like to see the trees as they are now and provide the 1190 00:59:05,433 --> 00:59:08,100 privacy that my neighbors across the street are used to. 1191 00:59:08,934 --> 00:59:13,100 We already have seen the impact of extensive tree removal on Haven lane. 1192 00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:15,333 Where green and company cleared out. 1193 00:59:15,333 --> 00:59:16,166 Most of the trees. 1194 00:59:17,133 --> 00:59:18,900 To build the townhomes as a result. 1195 00:59:19,834 --> 00:59:21,133 Older homes on Haven lane. 1196 00:59:21,266 --> 00:59:23,066 Now have an unobstructed view. 1197 00:59:24,033 --> 00:59:28,500 Of Portsmouth avenue with increased exposure to traffic, noise and pollution. 1198 00:59:29,333 --> 00:59:33,000 These new homes also significantly taller than existing homes. 1199 00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:37,533 Homes and do not reflect the scale or character of the surrounding neighborhood. 1200 00:59:38,500 --> 00:59:42,066 I'd like to know what the town will do to accommodate all the new 1201 00:59:42,066 --> 00:59:45,100 traffic on Portsmouth avenue and the JD hill avenue. 1202 00:59:46,100 --> 00:59:46,500 I've already, 1203 00:59:47,533 --> 00:59:51,333 it's already unpleasant to drive on Portsmouth avenue at different times of the day 1204 00:59:51,867 --> 00:59:53,634 And the new homes aren't even sold. 1205 00:59:54,300 --> 00:59:56,000 I've not heard anything about. 1206 00:59:56,934 --> 01:00:01,500 Upgrades to infrastructure on Portsmouth avenue with all the new building going on, both 1207 01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:01,900 sides. 1208 01:00:03,066 --> 01:00:05,533 I urge the planning board to evaluate. 1209 01:00:06,467 --> 01:00:08,533 This proposal and others carefully. 1210 01:00:09,333 --> 01:00:12,667 With particular attention to wetlands, mature trees. 1211 01:00:13,533 --> 01:00:15,433 Traffic neighborhood scale. 1212 01:00:16,367 --> 01:00:16,500 Children. 1213 01:00:17,066 --> 01:00:21,500 And whether this level of development is appropriate for a small neighborhood, such as 1214 01:00:21,700 --> 01:00:22,367 JD hill Ave. 1215 01:00:23,433 --> 01:00:24,166 He'll live and Webster Ave. 1216 01:00:25,033 --> 01:00:25,900 It is appropriate. 1217 01:00:26,667 --> 01:00:28,667 For the board to say no, sometimes. 1218 01:00:29,533 --> 01:00:34,867 Things that would create overcrowded development or buildings that do not fit Exodus character 1219 01:00:35,634 --> 01:00:35,900 Frankly. 1220 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:36,867 I'd like to see. 1221 01:00:37,900 --> 01:00:41,033 Town boards focus on really affordable housing. 1222 01:00:42,100 --> 01:00:43,900 Instead of more multi-million dollar homes. 1223 01:00:44,934 --> 01:00:45,367 Homes in Exeter. 1224 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,266 I respectfully request. 1225 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,500 That the planning board require any new homes to be. 1226 01:00:51,233 --> 01:00:54,567 Compatible with existing homes, neighborhood context. 1227 01:00:55,834 --> 01:01:00,500 Without careful oversight, exit or risks, losing the charm and character that makes it 1228 01:01:00,500 --> 01:01:00,867 special. 1229 01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:02,033 Thank you. 1230 01:01:10,133 --> 01:01:11,867 Anyone else from the public like to speak. 1231 01:01:16,066 --> 01:01:16,166 Okay. 1232 01:01:17,634 --> 01:01:20,433 There will be additional times during this case for the public to speak. 1233 01:01:20,533 --> 01:01:22,100 So, and I, I appreciate the respect. 1234 01:01:22,100 --> 01:01:23,567 Everybody showed in their comments. 1235 01:01:24,567 --> 01:01:24,567 Comments 1236 01:01:25,467 --> 01:01:26,033 on the board. 1237 01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:28,166 It's good to get input from the neighborhood. 1238 01:01:29,300 --> 01:01:32,000 Everyone on this board has been here for at least a little while. 1239 01:01:32,233 --> 01:01:33,266 Some many years. 1240 01:01:36,367 --> 01:01:38,100 I, if you have seen any of our hearings, I think you know that 1241 01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:41,000 I am right now surrounded by people that care a lot about trees up 1242 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:41,834 at this board. 1243 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:43,066 so. 1244 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,000 I think they care a lot. 1245 01:01:48,133 --> 01:01:49,734 You know, I think we all share your. 1246 01:01:50,467 --> 01:01:52,033 Concerns with any development that comes in front of us? 1247 01:01:52,133 --> 01:01:55,433 One of the things that we have as a board have to deal with 1248 01:01:55,700 --> 01:01:56,000 is. 1249 01:01:56,934 --> 01:01:58,667 The right of the applicant. 1250 01:01:59,433 --> 01:02:00,333 And the underlying landowner. 1251 01:02:01,700 --> 01:02:03,133 And balancing those rights. 1252 01:02:04,166 --> 01:02:04,867 Rights with our process. 1253 01:02:06,033 --> 01:02:08,100 So I respect and appreciate you all. 1254 01:02:09,133 --> 01:02:10,033 Understanding that at some level. 1255 01:02:11,634 --> 01:02:13,433 And it, I think it can be confusing at times. 1256 01:02:14,467 --> 01:02:17,166 There, if, if there's drainage issues on JD hill that are there today. 1257 01:02:18,867 --> 01:02:22,100 You know, that's a, that's really an Exeter, a town of Exeter issue. 1258 01:02:22,867 --> 01:02:24,000 A public works issue. 1259 01:02:24,634 --> 01:02:25,834 Existing public works issue. 1260 01:02:26,033 --> 01:02:26,834 It's not a. 1261 01:02:27,834 --> 01:02:32,033 Golf course of Exeter Exeter golf course issue necessarily. 1262 01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:32,533 They can't. 1263 01:02:33,333 --> 01:02:33,333 Can't 1264 01:02:34,767 --> 01:02:35,066 increase. 1265 01:02:36,033 --> 01:02:37,100 Issues for the neighborhood. 1266 01:02:38,100 --> 01:02:39,033 That's part of the regulation, 1267 01:02:39,734 --> 01:02:42,033 but we don't have the right to make them fix. 1268 01:02:43,066 --> 01:02:43,266 Drainage 1269 01:02:44,533 --> 01:02:46,033 issues that are already. 1270 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:47,100 Existing. 1271 01:02:50,033 --> 01:02:51,000 Can I respond to that? 1272 01:02:51,433 --> 01:02:52,433 No, not right now. 1273 01:02:52,533 --> 01:02:52,867 Okay. 1274 01:02:54,033 --> 01:02:56,000 I'm trying to give you guys some perspective. 1275 01:02:56,767 --> 01:02:58,567 You can not want to hear it. 1276 01:02:58,667 --> 01:02:59,367 And that's okay. 1277 01:03:00,467 --> 01:03:03,000 But I just wanna try to give you some perspective as to what we 1278 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:03,834 are here to do. 1279 01:03:04,767 --> 01:03:08,133 Some of the comments that you brought up are I know very valid cuz 1280 01:03:08,133 --> 01:03:09,433 I have friends in your neighborhood. 1281 01:03:11,066 --> 01:03:13,100 This is not necessarily the format for it. 1282 01:03:13,133 --> 01:03:16,100 It's good for us, you to bring it up, but for us to, I 1283 01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:18,000 can't do anything and make public works. 1284 01:03:19,166 --> 01:03:20,734 Take care of your, your neighborhood. 1285 01:03:21,700 --> 01:03:24,367 That's just, we can only affect what is in front of us, which is 1286 01:03:24,433 --> 01:03:28,367 an application with a specific property that happens to fall in your neighborhood, which 1287 01:03:28,367 --> 01:03:29,634 is probably why you're here. 1288 01:03:30,500 --> 01:03:32,100 And, you know, we all due respect. 1289 01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:34,266 It's just, that's the challenges that we face. 1290 01:03:35,066 --> 01:03:36,166 And we try to work with the community. 1291 01:03:36,233 --> 01:03:37,433 We're part of your community. 1292 01:03:38,667 --> 01:03:42,066 I can tell you if a neighborhood went in next to me and I'd 1293 01:03:42,066 --> 01:03:43,900 lived somewhere for 70 plus years, without that. 1294 01:03:44,767 --> 01:03:45,867 I wouldn't be too excited about it. 1295 01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:46,867 I'm just being honest. 1296 01:03:48,467 --> 01:03:50,433 But we have to balance that, you know what I mean? 1297 01:03:50,700 --> 01:03:51,000 So, 1298 01:03:51,834 --> 01:03:51,834 anyway, 1299 01:03:52,433 --> 01:03:53,900 that being said, there's a developer. 1300 01:03:53,900 --> 01:03:55,667 Want to make any more comments at this time? 1301 01:03:56,934 --> 01:04:00,634 Yeah, I can actually I'll respond just at least to the drainage issue. 1302 01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:05,100 Sure because it was something that we heard about or very early on.Yeah. 1303 01:04:05,166 --> 01:04:06,333 We met with D P w. 1304 01:04:07,433 --> 01:04:09,634 You know, before we even came to you for the design review. 1305 01:04:10,667 --> 01:04:11,867 And it was something we heard about. 1306 01:04:11,867 --> 01:04:14,033 They're aware that there are drainage issues out there. 1307 01:04:15,066 --> 01:04:18,166 So that was something we kept in mind heavily when we did our drainage 1308 01:04:18,166 --> 01:04:18,667 design. 1309 01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:21,433 And not only is it something we kept in mind, but it's something we're 1310 01:04:21,433 --> 01:04:22,100 required to do. 1311 01:04:23,066 --> 01:04:26,734 So when we're looking at the drainage, we're actually looking at the entire watershed 1312 01:04:26,734 --> 01:04:28,166 of what affects our property. 1313 01:04:29,133 --> 01:04:30,033 So we looked at not only. 1314 01:04:31,834 --> 01:04:32,567 I'm not sure what happened there. 1315 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,533 We looked at not only what's occurring right here, but we looked at the 1316 01:04:36,533 --> 01:04:37,000 drainage. 1317 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,166 That's coming onto us from this side. 1318 01:04:40,066 --> 01:04:42,500 And from here coming onto JD hill Ave. 1319 01:04:42,900 --> 01:04:45,734 So, and obviously as we heard from the neighbors and as we know. 1320 01:04:46,467 --> 01:04:48,133 From our study, that's quite a bit of runoff. 1321 01:04:49,133 --> 01:04:52,033 So that's why, when we did our drainage design, we were able to. 1322 01:04:52,934 --> 01:04:54,300 Adjust the drainage in this area. 1323 01:04:55,066 --> 01:04:57,767 And also design it so that we're collecting the drainage. 1324 01:04:57,767 --> 01:04:59,000 That's coming down this hill. 1325 01:05:00,100 --> 01:05:03,367 Some of what's coming toward us from JD hill Ave this way and bringing 1326 01:05:03,367 --> 01:05:07,567 it all into our drainage system to hopefully address some of those issues. 1327 01:05:08,166 --> 01:05:11,667 Issues that are occurring today, even though it's not being caused by our development 1328 01:05:12,033 --> 01:05:15,500 And in addition to that, we're also required to make sure that we are 1329 01:05:15,767 --> 01:05:16,133 collect. 1330 01:05:16,567 --> 01:05:21,100 Collecting and treating and managing the peak flow from our development so that it's 1331 01:05:21,100 --> 01:05:23,066 not exacerbating the current problem. 1332 01:05:24,033 --> 01:05:25,033 You wanna say that one again, please? 1333 01:05:25,333 --> 01:05:26,834 We're required to collect. 1334 01:05:27,834 --> 01:05:30,000 And treat not only for water quality. 1335 01:05:31,066 --> 01:05:33,066 But control the runoff from our development. 1336 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,266 So that's what we run in our calculations. 1337 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,300 For very large storm events up to even a hundred year storm event. 1338 01:05:40,166 --> 01:05:40,233 Thank you. 1339 01:05:41,767 --> 01:05:42,066 So 1340 01:05:42,867 --> 01:05:43,767 a lot of what we're talking about here. 1341 01:05:44,033 --> 01:05:46,533 And a lot of what was brought up by the neighborhood are things that 1342 01:05:46,533 --> 01:05:49,166 generally will happen, which is, you know, traffic flow. 1343 01:05:50,834 --> 01:05:52,033 Stormwater drainage. 1344 01:05:53,300 --> 01:05:54,500 Impact on the neighborhood. 1345 01:05:55,533 --> 01:05:57,834 One of the, one of the real challenges that. 1346 01:05:58,867 --> 01:06:02,100 We face in this community and every community is the housing. 1347 01:06:03,066 --> 01:06:03,066 Shortage. 1348 01:06:05,133 --> 01:06:05,166 You know, 1349 01:06:06,767 --> 01:06:07,567 I'm in the industry. 1350 01:06:08,367 --> 01:06:09,066 Affordable housing. 1351 01:06:10,667 --> 01:06:12,500 It's not a lot of affordable housing in accident, period. 1352 01:06:12,734 --> 01:06:13,734 I mean, that's just reality. 1353 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,734 I have three young boys and good luck. 1354 01:06:17,700 --> 01:06:17,734 Right now. 1355 01:06:17,767 --> 01:06:20,300 I mean, it's, it's really sad, but it's what we all face. 1356 01:06:21,533 --> 01:06:25,133 The other challenge that really affordable housing comes down to for everybody here is 1357 01:06:25,333 --> 01:06:26,133 density issue. 1358 01:06:26,634 --> 01:06:26,667 . 1359 01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:28,100 You know, 1360 01:06:29,066 --> 01:06:32,266 if you want affordable house and you get a lot, you gotta allow apartments 1361 01:06:32,266 --> 01:06:33,066 Bottom line. 1362 01:06:34,100 --> 01:06:34,100 Right. 1363 01:06:34,166 --> 01:06:35,634 And, and who wants those? 1364 01:06:35,634 --> 01:06:39,300 Would you guys rather see 200 apartments right there because that's affordable housing. 1365 01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:41,867 Well, then you're, it is a unique. 1366 01:06:42,300 --> 01:06:42,767 As you could be. 1367 01:06:43,900 --> 01:06:44,900 And I appreciate that. 1368 01:06:45,900 --> 01:06:48,166 But it's, you know, it's a, it's a real, it truly is a real 1369 01:06:48,166 --> 01:06:48,767 challenge. 1370 01:06:50,300 --> 01:06:51,367 And that is one of the big issues, 1371 01:06:52,033 --> 01:06:52,634 cuz you know, 1372 01:06:53,533 --> 01:06:54,033 200 1373 01:06:55,033 --> 01:06:58,300 residents bringing cars in and out of that site would be different than 14 1374 01:06:58,300 --> 01:06:59,000 households. 1375 01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:01,367 Households, but, you know, will it be affordable? 1376 01:07:01,900 --> 01:07:06,066 I mean, cost of construction these days, if anybody's done a renovation lately, it's 1377 01:07:06,066 --> 01:07:07,867 really almost double every time. 1378 01:07:08,166 --> 01:07:10,033 You try to do something it's twice what you think it's gonna be. 1379 01:07:10,867 --> 01:07:14,066 So what makes it very difficult for anything to get built new and be 1380 01:07:15,066 --> 01:07:15,066 Affordable. 1381 01:07:15,300 --> 01:07:16,634 That's just economics. 1382 01:07:17,900 --> 01:07:21,300 Economics.That's not any particular developer's issue or anything else. 1383 01:07:22,700 --> 01:07:24,567 But it is a true community challenge. 1384 01:07:25,634 --> 01:07:25,867 So 1385 01:07:26,667 --> 01:07:28,567 probably makes sense to figure out a site walk. 1386 01:07:29,333 --> 01:07:30,333 Sidewalk time and date and we'll continue. 1387 01:07:30,500 --> 01:07:32,734 I just make a comment, please for Mr. Yeah. 1388 01:07:33,100 --> 01:07:33,834 Acting chair. 1389 01:07:34,066 --> 01:07:36,567 So just some of the comments were beyond. 1390 01:07:37,333 --> 01:07:40,266 What is kind of what the planning board will, will look at. 1391 01:07:41,133 --> 01:07:42,867 I encourage you to do two things. 1392 01:07:43,100 --> 01:07:45,433 Come to this luck board meetings, public comment. 1393 01:07:46,300 --> 01:07:50,033 Is typically right at the very beginning of those meetings, we have one coming 1394 01:07:50,033 --> 01:07:50,867 up on Monday night. 1395 01:07:51,266 --> 01:07:53,000 I know that might be a little soon. 1396 01:07:53,700 --> 01:07:58,066 For for you to, but please, I mean, and you can reach out to 1397 01:07:58,066 --> 01:08:00,100 the tell manager who can direct you. 1398 01:08:01,133 --> 01:08:03,734 There are so many things I can respond to, but I'm not gonna do 1399 01:08:03,734 --> 01:08:06,033 it here, but there's a lot of stuff you need to understand. 1400 01:08:06,033 --> 01:08:08,767 You need to follow like budget process and stuff. 1401 01:08:09,333 --> 01:08:10,100 But please reach 1402 01:08:10,667 --> 01:08:12,033 good because the CIP P. 1403 01:08:12,934 --> 01:08:13,900 Portsmouth AV is in there. 1404 01:08:15,433 --> 01:08:18,066 But could you please reach out to the town manager who will then, 1405 01:08:18,900 --> 01:08:19,900 and he responded back. 1406 01:08:20,934 --> 01:08:21,066 Yes. 1407 01:08:21,100 --> 01:08:21,333 And 1408 01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:23,133 gave you to D P w. 1409 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:24,133 Yep. 1410 01:08:24,133 --> 01:08:25,133 And they first came out. 1411 01:08:26,300 --> 01:08:28,100 Good then, then that's all about all we can do. 1412 01:08:28,433 --> 01:08:30,667 They're gonna tell you what's what and okay. 1413 01:08:30,667 --> 01:08:31,000 Thank you. 1414 01:08:31,834 --> 01:08:33,767 I just wanted to, but literally. 1415 01:08:34,767 --> 01:08:36,133 You know, I understand. 1416 01:08:36,667 --> 01:08:37,734 I grew up in Exeter. 1417 01:08:38,300 --> 01:08:39,634 I grew up playing in streets. 1418 01:08:39,700 --> 01:08:40,734 That's just kind of. 1419 01:08:41,700 --> 01:08:41,734 Not 1420 01:08:43,166 --> 01:08:44,000 kind of what 1421 01:08:44,934 --> 01:08:46,500 is safe anymore these days, but. 1422 01:08:47,433 --> 01:08:48,900 That again, come to the select board. 1423 01:08:50,100 --> 01:08:51,033 We will hear you. 1424 01:08:51,033 --> 01:08:53,500 We don't have a back and forth during public comment. 1425 01:08:54,467 --> 01:08:55,000 But we'll hear you. 1426 01:08:55,433 --> 01:08:55,667 And. 1427 01:08:56,767 --> 01:09:00,834 Maybe direct you to the departments that you need to have a conversation with 1428 01:09:00,834 --> 01:09:01,667 to understand process. 1429 01:09:02,734 --> 01:09:03,100 Thank you. 1430 01:09:05,867 --> 01:09:08,066 Anybody else on the board wanna make a comment at this time? 1431 01:09:08,033 --> 01:09:08,867 I just have a question. 1432 01:09:08,867 --> 01:09:09,867 Yeah, if that's okay. 1433 01:09:10,166 --> 01:09:11,367 About the yield plan, 1434 01:09:12,367 --> 01:09:13,300 I just wanna clarify. 1435 01:09:14,133 --> 01:09:15,333 Because we don't look at. 1436 01:09:16,166 --> 01:09:17,066 These that often. 1437 01:09:17,300 --> 01:09:19,567 And I, I just wanna make sure I'm understanding it properly. 1438 01:09:21,300 --> 01:09:22,533 The lot, one 1439 01:09:24,066 --> 01:09:25,867 looks like it has 1440 01:09:27,033 --> 01:09:28,767 a 20 foot wide utility easement. 1441 01:09:29,700 --> 01:09:29,734 Paige. 1442 01:09:29,734 --> 01:09:30,667 Can you point to lot one? 1443 01:09:30,767 --> 01:09:31,533 Yes, please. 1444 01:09:31,734 --> 01:09:32,066 Thank you. 1445 01:09:33,734 --> 01:09:36,567 So that hatched area is a 20 foot wide utility easement. 1446 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:41,000 So I'm assuming you can't technically build a house on that easement or isthat. 1447 01:09:41,533 --> 01:09:41,834 Yeah. 1448 01:09:42,033 --> 01:09:45,066 So it's the same as what you'll see on our. 1449 01:09:46,100 --> 01:09:46,767 Cluster subdivision plan. 1450 01:09:46,934 --> 01:09:50,300 So that is currently where the overhead power runs out to. 1451 01:09:51,066 --> 01:09:53,100 The maintenance building that they have out there. 1452 01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:57,066 So that utility line will actually be moved as part of the project. 1453 01:09:57,433 --> 01:10:01,166 So that same utility easement would affect our current lot. 1454 01:10:01,533 --> 01:10:02,066 I can't even. 1455 01:10:02,300 --> 01:10:02,634 See that from here. 1456 01:10:02,634 --> 01:10:04,533 Look, I guess that's lot 14 one. 1457 01:10:06,266 --> 01:10:09,066 Is the proposal to actually get that easement. 1458 01:10:10,100 --> 01:10:10,834 Adjusted as well. 1459 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:11,266 Yes. 1460 01:10:14,500 --> 01:10:14,767 Yes. 1461 01:10:14,767 --> 01:10:15,066 Yeah. 1462 01:10:15,133 --> 01:10:17,066 The utility line will run up the. 1463 01:10:18,667 --> 01:10:19,266 It's the dog stuff. 1464 01:10:19,266 --> 01:10:20,166 The utility line. 1465 01:10:21,467 --> 01:10:22,834 Is it this top one, the top one? 1466 01:10:22,834 --> 01:10:23,066 Yep. 1467 01:10:24,033 --> 01:10:27,100 This utility line will actually run down the road. 1468 01:10:28,033 --> 01:10:29,166 And up that sideline. 1469 01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:32,567 Back to that and reconnect to the power line. 1470 01:10:33,333 --> 01:10:35,100 So that entire easement will be gone. 1471 01:10:36,033 --> 01:10:36,033 Okay. 1472 01:10:36,867 --> 01:10:39,066 So would you mind going to the yield plan? 1473 01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:40,333 I think this is the subdivision plan. 1474 01:10:40,333 --> 01:10:40,734 Thank you. 1475 01:10:41,166 --> 01:10:43,667 So the lot I was concerned about is lot one. 1476 01:10:44,166 --> 01:10:44,166 Yes. 1477 01:10:44,300 --> 01:10:47,100 Just because it looks like once you get the setbacks in there and everything 1478 01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:48,166 there's really almost no. 1479 01:10:49,533 --> 01:10:50,333 Room to build a house. 1480 01:10:50,333 --> 01:10:54,033 And I'm wondering what the, if, if that's really a viable lot as we're 1481 01:10:54,033 --> 01:10:57,000 looking at it it's so once the easement wasn't moved. 1482 01:10:57,333 --> 01:10:59,867 Removed then it would be, it would be with, with the easement there. 1483 01:10:59,900 --> 01:11:00,567 Of course it wouldn't. 1484 01:11:00,567 --> 01:11:03,133 But with, because we're planning on removing it in either case. 1485 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,867 We we see that as a viable lot. 1486 01:11:07,133 --> 01:11:10,066 And does the, well, this might be a Dave Sharpe's question, but does the 1487 01:11:10,166 --> 01:11:14,333 planning part have any, do we need to see the easement relocation? 1488 01:11:15,100 --> 01:11:16,266 Is that like part of the subdivision? 1489 01:11:16,300 --> 01:11:16,767 Oh yeah. 1490 01:11:16,867 --> 01:11:17,033 Okay. 1491 01:11:17,033 --> 01:11:17,767 That's what I thought. 1492 01:11:17,900 --> 01:11:18,033 All right. 1493 01:11:18,033 --> 01:11:18,533 Yeah, it would. 1494 01:11:19,834 --> 01:11:23,066 Which really should be part of the yield plan consideration, frankly. 1495 01:11:23,066 --> 01:11:23,166 Right? 1496 01:11:23,166 --> 01:11:26,367 Because this is, that is definitely critical to that law. 1497 01:11:29,700 --> 01:11:30,033 The other 1498 01:11:31,066 --> 01:11:31,367 question I had was. 1499 01:11:33,133 --> 01:11:35,100 Really for Paige is 1500 01:11:36,634 --> 01:11:41,100 can you describe again, the proposed easement to benefit Exeter country club. 1501 01:11:42,100 --> 01:11:42,266 Yes. 1502 01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:46,667 So if you look at the existing conditions plan, well, it's actually pretty hard 1503 01:11:46,667 --> 01:11:48,567 to see cuz there's quite a few lines on here. 1504 01:11:48,767 --> 01:11:50,033 Is that, is that the third? 1505 01:11:50,467 --> 01:11:50,500 Hole. 1506 01:11:50,867 --> 01:11:51,100 Yes. 1507 01:11:51,767 --> 01:11:52,066 Yep. 1508 01:11:52,133 --> 01:11:53,867 So you'll see the cart path comes up. 1509 01:11:53,900 --> 01:11:54,066 Yeah. 1510 01:11:54,166 --> 01:11:56,634 There's kind of this looped situation happening. 1511 01:11:57,533 --> 01:12:01,166 With the cart path and then the tee box is up in this area 1512 01:12:02,300 --> 01:12:05,100 So they plan to keep that just exactly as it is within the open 1513 01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:05,433 space. 1514 01:12:05,634 --> 01:12:10,133 And that's why on our easement plan, we show that proposed easement, which encompasses 1515 01:12:10,734 --> 01:12:13,000 The cart paths as well as that tee box. 1516 01:12:13,900 --> 01:12:14,066 All right. 1517 01:12:14,066 --> 01:12:14,567 So that's it. 1518 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,567 Definitely creative way. 1519 01:12:18,934 --> 01:12:20,767 To still accommodate the golf course. 1520 01:12:23,033 --> 01:12:24,634 And included in the yield plan. 1521 01:12:24,734 --> 01:12:28,300 I, I I'd be interested in seeing calculations without that, cuz it. 1522 01:12:29,433 --> 01:12:31,000 It just seems a little mucky to me. 1523 01:12:33,100 --> 01:12:34,867 With this land being transferred. 1524 01:12:35,834 --> 01:12:36,000 Yeah. 1525 01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:38,867 So I think on, I mean, we, we definitely could show it on the 1526 01:12:38,867 --> 01:12:39,166 yield plan. 1527 01:12:39,166 --> 01:12:39,367 Yeah. 1528 01:12:39,367 --> 01:12:41,066 Because it's basically right in this area. 1529 01:12:42,100 --> 01:12:42,066 So 1530 01:12:43,100 --> 01:12:45,867 the developable area on, I think that's lot seven. 1531 01:12:46,867 --> 01:12:47,834 Is actually up in this area. 1532 01:12:47,867 --> 01:12:51,166 Mm-hmm so we don't see that as being, you know, taking away from 1533 01:12:51,166 --> 01:12:51,433 that long. 1534 01:12:51,500 --> 01:12:53,066 How does it affect your necessary. 1535 01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:57,000 Conservation land total, the open space calculations. 1536 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:57,033 Yeah. 1537 01:12:58,100 --> 01:12:58,500 It's do you know, 1538 01:12:59,500 --> 01:13:00,300 I can't see that far. 1539 01:13:00,300 --> 01:13:02,100 So let me see what the square footage is of it. 1540 01:13:02,133 --> 01:13:03,033 And I'm putting you on the spot. 1541 01:13:03,033 --> 01:13:04,100 You don't need to come up with that tonight. 1542 01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:06,033 It's not until end of the end of the hearing or. 1543 01:13:06,300 --> 01:13:06,300 Anything, 1544 01:13:07,533 --> 01:13:09,133 but that's something that I would want to see. 1545 01:13:09,367 --> 01:13:09,734 Okay. 1546 01:13:09,734 --> 01:13:11,300 Yeah, we can, we can run that calculation. 1547 01:13:11,300 --> 01:13:11,867 That'd be great. 1548 01:13:11,867 --> 01:13:13,100 It's just about an acre of space. 1549 01:13:13,300 --> 01:13:13,634 Okay. 1550 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,734 And there's no consideration for just doing a lot line adjustment on that. 1551 01:13:19,934 --> 01:13:23,834 We were including it because it's part of the 10 acres that is currently 1552 01:13:24,567 --> 01:13:25,066 Outside of the conservation 1553 01:13:25,834 --> 01:13:26,000 land. 1554 01:13:27,066 --> 01:13:28,033 That they plant to purchase. 1555 01:13:28,433 --> 01:13:30,033 So that's why we didn't do it that way. 1556 01:13:30,033 --> 01:13:33,533 It just seems a little bit, I'm trying to look down the road. 1557 01:13:34,533 --> 01:13:36,166 These are built, whatever gets built. 1558 01:13:37,500 --> 01:13:39,066 Probably not 200 empowerments, but. 1559 01:13:40,033 --> 01:13:40,533 Some number of homes. 1560 01:13:42,100 --> 01:13:42,100 Homes.And 1561 01:13:43,133 --> 01:13:44,433 now you have an association. 1562 01:13:46,300 --> 01:13:47,133 Claton neighborhood. 1563 01:13:48,166 --> 01:13:50,166 With this easement that he deals with a golf course. 1564 01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:54,100 Someone has damage to them on that. 1565 01:13:55,066 --> 01:13:55,000 Land 1566 01:13:55,900 --> 01:13:56,667 that they own. 1567 01:13:57,533 --> 01:13:59,066 And they've got this permitted use there. 1568 01:13:59,266 --> 01:14:01,100 Mm-hmm they're gonna be liable. 1569 01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:03,000 It just, it's not clean. 1570 01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:04,000 Mm-hmm do you know what I'm saying? 1571 01:14:04,467 --> 01:14:05,567 If there's a way to do it. 1572 01:14:06,467 --> 01:14:08,533 It would be, I would encourage you to explore it. 1573 01:14:09,333 --> 01:14:09,367 Okay. 1574 01:14:09,667 --> 01:14:13,166 Fee simple ownership in general, a situation like this to me with very different 1575 01:14:13,367 --> 01:14:13,734 uses. 1576 01:14:13,734 --> 01:14:14,033 Yes. 1577 01:14:14,033 --> 01:14:15,634 I understand it's recreation, but it's. 1578 01:14:16,767 --> 01:14:19,000 It's it's, it's a commercial enterprise, a golf course. 1579 01:14:20,166 --> 01:14:20,266 Okay. 1580 01:14:20,266 --> 01:14:20,533 Yeah. 1581 01:14:20,734 --> 01:14:22,133 And it's gonna be separate ownership. 1582 01:14:23,433 --> 01:14:24,033 You know what I mean? 1583 01:14:25,333 --> 01:14:25,333 Mm-hmm . 1584 01:14:26,500 --> 01:14:29,133 So if there's a way to consider that, I know that's. 1585 01:14:30,100 --> 01:14:33,100 That's not what you're looking at right now, but I would encourage. 1586 01:14:34,667 --> 01:14:36,567 Did, did you have anything else at this point or? 1587 01:14:36,634 --> 01:14:36,867 No? 1588 01:14:37,900 --> 01:14:38,066 Regarding 1589 01:14:39,133 --> 01:14:39,166 no. 1590 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:40,033 No. 1591 01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:42,567 Anything's well, I do have a few. 1592 01:14:42,667 --> 01:14:45,734 Yeah, I have a few and I'll try to keep it brief cuz I 1593 01:14:45,734 --> 01:14:48,033 know we still need to do the sidewalk, but I have. 1594 01:14:48,367 --> 01:14:49,266 A hard time with a few things. 1595 01:14:50,166 --> 01:14:53,100 I'm still struggling with Jen's question about lot one. 1596 01:14:53,133 --> 01:14:56,033 And I guess if you're gonna do a yield plan and you're not gonna 1597 01:14:56,033 --> 01:14:56,166 be. 1598 01:14:56,767 --> 01:14:57,033 Having the easement. 1599 01:14:59,867 --> 01:15:04,033 And also your current concurrent conditions, but can you reposition. 1600 01:15:05,133 --> 01:15:05,000 The 1601 01:15:06,634 --> 01:15:07,300 building envelope. 1602 01:15:08,166 --> 01:15:08,900 Where it would be. 1603 01:15:10,467 --> 01:15:12,667 V. I don't see how you're gonna change that. 1604 01:15:13,500 --> 01:15:17,500 So where it is currently cause it's 20, it's like 25 feet wide 1605 01:15:17,734 --> 01:15:18,500 on the frontage. 1606 01:15:18,867 --> 01:15:22,367 Of your road, your driveway in it's very narrow. 1607 01:15:23,367 --> 01:15:26,834 So the buildable envelope, it's hard to see on this plan, but it, it 1608 01:15:26,834 --> 01:15:30,033 goes basically over the easement because it's like as if the easement one there 1609 01:15:30,033 --> 01:15:30,133 Yeah. 1610 01:15:30,133 --> 01:15:30,567 I see that. 1611 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:31,166 I see. 1612 01:15:31,634 --> 01:15:31,867 That.Yeah. 1613 01:15:31,900 --> 01:15:34,100 So that, that area is wide enough for a house. 1614 01:15:34,066 --> 01:15:35,166 I mean, we could probably show. 1615 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,033 We could show like a house on that, on that lot. 1616 01:15:40,033 --> 01:15:40,100 On the revised. 1617 01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:44,000 This seems like really tiny to me, but if you can do it. 1618 01:15:47,066 --> 01:15:47,166 That'd be great. 1619 01:15:47,433 --> 01:15:50,033 I also don't see the building envelope for lot eight. 1620 01:15:50,867 --> 01:15:51,100 And 1621 01:15:51,767 --> 01:15:55,000 I'm a little worried because you have lots of wetlands buffers. 1622 01:15:56,166 --> 01:15:56,166 Buffers. 1623 01:15:57,100 --> 01:16:00,533 It's not pictured on my plan set anyway, unless. 1624 01:16:02,367 --> 01:16:05,634 I see a, I see what looks like it might be, but it goes 1625 01:16:05,867 --> 01:16:09,300 into lot seven if, unless I'm misinterpret. 1626 01:16:09,700 --> 01:16:09,734 Misinterpreting. 1627 01:16:09,734 --> 01:16:11,000 So, yeah, so lot seven is here. 1628 01:16:11,667 --> 01:16:12,033 Yeah. 1629 01:16:12,033 --> 01:16:13,100 Lot eight is here. 1630 01:16:13,900 --> 01:16:16,333 Can you, can you kind of outline where you are? 1631 01:16:17,333 --> 01:16:21,634 Expecting a, a building site on lot eight on lot eight on lot eight 1632 01:16:21,734 --> 01:16:22,033 Yes. 1633 01:16:22,066 --> 01:16:22,300 Right. 1634 01:16:23,066 --> 01:16:23,066 Here. 1635 01:16:25,333 --> 01:16:26,567 wow. 1636 01:16:27,066 --> 01:16:27,166 Okay. 1637 01:16:27,634 --> 01:16:32,033 And you've got like 300 feet of roadway to get into it and crossing 1638 01:16:32,033 --> 01:16:33,066 over a wetland. 1639 01:16:33,700 --> 01:16:35,667 Yes, that would be the driveway for lot eight. 1640 01:16:35,934 --> 01:16:36,100 Okay. 1641 01:16:36,433 --> 01:16:38,000 Not crazy about that either. 1642 01:16:39,300 --> 01:16:42,667 That would be a very, it looks, I think, deceiving on the plan, but 1643 01:16:42,667 --> 01:16:46,066 that would be a very minor wetland crossing, cuz that's only about a 12 1644 01:16:46,066 --> 01:16:46,834 foot wide driveway. 1645 01:16:47,767 --> 01:16:49,266 Because it's only for the single family home. 1646 01:16:50,300 --> 01:16:52,100 It's just a lot of pavement and. 1647 01:16:53,533 --> 01:16:54,767 Wetland crossing. 1648 01:16:54,900 --> 01:16:57,367 I'm I'm just not, I'm not excited about that one. 1649 01:16:58,467 --> 01:17:00,867 Well, again, on this one, Gwen, it's a yield point. 1650 01:17:01,133 --> 01:17:04,033 I know it is, but we have to, we have to determine it's that 1651 01:17:04,033 --> 01:17:04,500 it's a viable. 1652 01:17:04,567 --> 01:17:05,000 Correct. 1653 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,567 And that we would, would approve it if this were to go through, right 1654 01:17:08,934 --> 01:17:09,033 Yes. 1655 01:17:09,533 --> 01:17:09,667 Yeah. 1656 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,634 So I'm just saying I, I have, yeah, I have concerns about that one 1657 01:17:17,767 --> 01:17:18,734 In in your letter. 1658 01:17:20,233 --> 01:17:21,066 In your letter. 1659 01:17:22,066 --> 01:17:25,066 I guess it was in your Jones and beach introductory letter. 1660 01:17:25,900 --> 01:17:26,767 You mentioned a 1661 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:28,100 stream channel. 1662 01:17:28,266 --> 01:17:30,300 It was on the 7 28, 26. 1663 01:17:30,734 --> 01:17:31,033 Yes. 1664 01:17:31,033 --> 01:17:32,333 Ladder on page one. 1665 01:17:33,133 --> 01:17:36,033 Where is the, is the street stream channel that you described? 1666 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,166 I think it's supposed to be on the Western side of the property. 1667 01:17:40,166 --> 01:17:42,033 So I think there was a little bit of confusion. 1668 01:17:42,033 --> 01:17:44,100 Kristen brought that to my attention as well. 1669 01:17:44,233 --> 01:17:48,000 So really what it is is there's this wetland area on this side of 1670 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:48,266 the property. 1671 01:17:48,567 --> 01:17:52,333 It's all one wetland that's connected, but what it is is that there's an 1672 01:17:52,333 --> 01:17:55,667 intermittent stream channel that runs down from this wetland. 1673 01:17:56,567 --> 01:17:58,767 To this lower wetland and then eventually into the river. 1674 01:17:59,834 --> 01:18:01,100 But that is an intermittent stream. 1675 01:18:01,233 --> 01:18:04,000 So because of that, it doesn't qualify for the Shoreland. 1676 01:18:04,934 --> 01:18:05,000 District. 1677 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:05,333 Okay. 1678 01:18:06,066 --> 01:18:08,100 I thought it was maybe over, closer to. 1679 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:10,533 Set on the Western side of the property. 1680 01:18:10,634 --> 01:18:12,367 So I assumed it was over near the. 1681 01:18:15,433 --> 01:18:17,900 Closer to the roadway, your entrance way. 1682 01:18:18,667 --> 01:18:21,100 No, that is that's the only area I think the, the way that it 1683 01:18:21,100 --> 01:18:23,367 was described in the letter was just a little bit unclear. 1684 01:18:23,367 --> 01:18:26,266 Cause Kristen had the same question for me, so, oh, okay. 1685 01:18:28,033 --> 01:18:31,066 On the south end south property line, there are two. 1686 01:18:31,834 --> 01:18:32,100 Squares. 1687 01:18:32,133 --> 01:18:33,100 One's a rectangular 1688 01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:34,100 area 1689 01:18:34,900 --> 01:18:35,867 on lot 14. 1690 01:18:35,934 --> 01:18:37,033 And the other one is. 1691 01:18:37,900 --> 01:18:38,300 Kind of on 1692 01:18:39,166 --> 01:18:40,500 Doug Eastman's property. 1693 01:18:41,333 --> 01:18:41,734 And lot 1694 01:18:42,934 --> 01:18:43,033 10. 1695 01:18:43,166 --> 01:18:44,100 What is that? 1696 01:18:45,133 --> 01:18:48,033 It's a little box it's right on the property shed, right? 1697 01:18:48,033 --> 01:18:48,367 Is that 1698 01:18:50,300 --> 01:18:51,834 it shows it's partly on. 1699 01:18:52,767 --> 01:18:53,900 The, on your property. 1700 01:18:54,867 --> 01:18:58,266 That, that one, that one there and then to the right, that one. 1701 01:18:58,266 --> 01:18:58,533 Yeah. 1702 01:18:58,634 --> 01:18:59,033 What are those? 1703 01:18:59,300 --> 01:19:00,667 I think, I think that's Doug's shed. 1704 01:19:00,667 --> 01:19:01,033 Yeah, 1705 01:19:02,066 --> 01:19:02,667 maybe he can. 1706 01:19:03,066 --> 01:19:03,266 Answer what it is. 1707 01:19:03,433 --> 01:19:04,033 Oh, okay. 1708 01:19:05,333 --> 01:19:07,266 And the other one is on the left is. 1709 01:19:09,166 --> 01:19:12,900 That's his, yeah, that's that's on your that's on lock 14. 1710 01:19:15,033 --> 01:19:15,834 I'm just curious. 1711 01:19:16,567 --> 01:19:19,266 Can I answer it's up to the chair to sure. 1712 01:19:22,033 --> 01:19:23,834 Greg McCarthy four Webster, a. 1713 01:19:24,934 --> 01:19:25,000 Ave. 1714 01:19:25,066 --> 01:19:26,066 There's nothing there. 1715 01:19:26,867 --> 01:19:27,367 It shows up. 1716 01:19:27,533 --> 01:19:30,266 It's on my it's on the paperwork I got. 1717 01:19:30,266 --> 01:19:31,533 When I closed down the house. 1718 01:19:31,634 --> 01:19:32,667 It's on all of. 1719 01:19:33,133 --> 01:19:35,900 These charts, there used to be something there. 1720 01:19:36,100 --> 01:19:40,500 The foundation blocks are still in place, and apparently there was a brick central 1721 01:19:40,767 --> 01:19:41,133 chimney. 1722 01:19:41,867 --> 01:19:42,900 Someone mentioned 1723 01:19:44,066 --> 01:19:45,166 a former gun club. 1724 01:19:46,734 --> 01:19:47,066 I don't know. 1725 01:19:47,567 --> 01:19:48,567 I don't it's it's nothing. 1726 01:19:48,567 --> 01:19:48,834 Okay. 1727 01:19:48,834 --> 01:19:49,867 There is no building there. 1728 01:19:50,133 --> 01:19:50,300 Okay. 1729 01:19:50,533 --> 01:19:53,500 It is in the tree line and according to my deed, 1730 01:19:54,500 --> 01:19:54,767 it 1731 01:19:55,467 --> 01:19:56,500 is probably mine. 1732 01:19:56,734 --> 01:19:57,100 I don't know. 1733 01:19:58,100 --> 01:19:58,500 Okay, thank you. 1734 01:19:58,767 --> 01:20:01,734 Our surveyors called it out as remnants of old brick structure. 1735 01:20:02,100 --> 01:20:02,266 Yeah. 1736 01:20:02,900 --> 01:20:04,000 Oh, okay. 1737 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,033 Something all right. 1738 01:20:07,033 --> 01:20:08,266 You're gonna mark your 20. 1739 01:20:09,333 --> 01:20:11,166 Inch and over trees on their plans. 1740 01:20:11,300 --> 01:20:11,567 Yes. 1741 01:20:11,900 --> 01:20:13,000 Yes, we did locate them, please. 1742 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:13,667 We just have to. 1743 01:20:15,634 --> 01:20:16,367 Update the plan. 1744 01:20:17,333 --> 01:20:17,367 Okay. 1745 01:20:21,433 --> 01:20:24,734 Let me just see if there are any other questions that would be helpful 1746 01:20:25,700 --> 01:20:27,000 Are you putting in curbing? 1747 01:20:28,033 --> 01:20:29,133 Particularly on the 1748 01:20:30,100 --> 01:20:33,834 I don't, I'm not an engineer, but it seems like on the Eastern side 1749 01:20:33,834 --> 01:20:36,266 of your entrance road to direct the water. 1750 01:20:37,133 --> 01:20:37,500 Into. 1751 01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:42,667 Yeah, so we actually have curbing currently on the Western side, we actually. 1752 01:20:43,634 --> 01:20:43,900 Purposely 1753 01:20:44,567 --> 01:20:45,634 designed it that way to. 1754 01:20:46,467 --> 01:20:50,333 Have the runoff not go toward those abutters it's on the Western side. 1755 01:20:51,033 --> 01:20:51,133 Yeah. 1756 01:20:52,300 --> 01:20:54,300 It seems like the Eastern side would be. 1757 01:20:54,867 --> 01:20:58,634 Yeah, we actually super elevated the roadway to go the other way to keep 1758 01:20:58,634 --> 01:21:00,066 the runoff away from the neighbors. 1759 01:21:00,100 --> 01:21:00,667 Oh, oh. 1760 01:21:00,700 --> 01:21:01,000 Oh. 1761 01:21:01,100 --> 01:21:02,100 So that'll get regraded. 1762 01:21:03,066 --> 01:21:05,000 And then we do have some curbing coming in. 1763 01:21:05,700 --> 01:21:09,266 That design is going to be revised slightly based on some comments we received 1764 01:21:09,266 --> 01:21:10,066 at the TRC. 1765 01:21:10,133 --> 01:21:13,266 So there may be additional curbing added in the next revision that you can 1766 01:21:13,266 --> 01:21:13,433 see. 1767 01:21:14,100 --> 01:21:16,100 Okay, but not removed, not removed. 1768 01:21:16,166 --> 01:21:16,433 No. 1769 01:21:17,533 --> 01:21:21,066 Basically, we have some sections of the roadway super elevated that D P w 1770 01:21:21,066 --> 01:21:22,333 would prefer to see crowned. 1771 01:21:22,367 --> 01:21:25,433 So we're going to revise that to be crowned, which may result in more 1772 01:21:25,900 --> 01:21:25,900 Carbon. 1773 01:21:26,567 --> 01:21:26,900 Okay. 1774 01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:27,667 Thank you. 1775 01:21:29,934 --> 01:21:30,033 And 1776 01:21:31,467 --> 01:21:33,634 typically with a development of this site. 1777 01:21:33,767 --> 01:21:34,066 I mean, 1778 01:21:35,767 --> 01:21:36,000 I don't 1779 01:21:37,133 --> 01:21:37,867 don't there's there's. 1780 01:21:39,500 --> 01:21:42,567 Provision for some kind of recreation area for. 1781 01:21:43,433 --> 01:21:44,033 Families in this 1782 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:45,867 proposed development. 1783 01:21:46,667 --> 01:21:49,133 I know you've got a golf course around you, but is there. 1784 01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:55,567 I'm thinking of the existing neighborhood and where these kids are going to play 1785 01:21:56,734 --> 01:22:00,066 Where your kid's going to play and maybe they can include. 1786 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:02,266 The existing neighborhood. 1787 01:22:02,500 --> 01:22:05,300 Is there any area that is sort of designated. 1788 01:22:08,033 --> 01:22:09,433 For like a, your community. 1789 01:22:11,700 --> 01:22:15,667 Right now we have the proposed open space and we also have the, the 1790 01:22:15,667 --> 01:22:17,734 cart path, which provides the access to. 1791 01:22:18,667 --> 01:22:20,000 The conservation land that's surrounding. 1792 01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,033 We don't have any designated. 1793 01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:24,000 Recreation area, but we can, we can think about that. 1794 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,433 Oh, nothing, nothing on site. 1795 01:22:25,767 --> 01:22:29,066 We also do have the middle of the cul-de-sac, which is currently just a 1796 01:22:29,066 --> 01:22:29,533 grass area. 1797 01:22:29,700 --> 01:22:30,100 So that could. 1798 01:22:30,467 --> 01:22:31,266 Be something could be done there. 1799 01:22:31,300 --> 01:22:31,900 Mm-hmm 1800 01:22:32,834 --> 01:22:35,066 I have some thoughts about that too, but . 1801 01:22:36,300 --> 01:22:38,066 Definitely an opportunity. 1802 01:22:38,867 --> 01:22:40,000 Yes with this project to do that. 1803 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:40,166 Yeah. 1804 01:22:41,033 --> 01:22:41,834 Absolutely. 1805 01:22:43,700 --> 01:22:46,734 Am I certainly I to address the neighbors, I. 1806 01:22:47,834 --> 01:22:51,767 I, I, I sympathize with all of you and I, I, I. 1807 01:22:52,567 --> 01:22:53,033 Recognize that there 1808 01:22:54,867 --> 01:22:56,133 our developments that we've approved. 1809 01:22:57,133 --> 01:22:57,000 That 1810 01:22:58,934 --> 01:23:00,367 we haven't had any way to. 1811 01:23:01,133 --> 01:23:04,100 Control whether or not they've fit into the 1812 01:23:04,767 --> 01:23:06,000 existing neighborhoods or not. 1813 01:23:07,066 --> 01:23:10,166 I would just certainly like to see an attempt made to make this feel 1814 01:23:10,166 --> 01:23:11,166 like it's part of. 1815 01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:13,000 The existing neighborhood. 1816 01:23:15,133 --> 01:23:16,333 And again, we can't 1817 01:23:17,133 --> 01:23:19,734 can't we can't dictate whether it's affordable or not. 1818 01:23:19,867 --> 01:23:21,033 I wish we could, but. 1819 01:23:22,100 --> 01:23:22,100 That's 1820 01:23:22,667 --> 01:23:23,266 developers. 1821 01:23:24,166 --> 01:23:25,333 Are there to make money and. 1822 01:23:26,467 --> 01:23:27,367 Money drives the boat. 1823 01:23:27,367 --> 01:23:28,000 Doesn't it. 1824 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:28,634 Unfortunately. 1825 01:23:29,700 --> 01:23:31,767 But I, my heart goes out too. 1826 01:23:32,567 --> 01:23:33,133 I've I've dealt with this. 1827 01:23:33,233 --> 01:23:36,767 So I , I can appreciate where you're all coming from. 1828 01:23:38,667 --> 01:23:41,066 And there are, we are still a tree city. 1829 01:23:41,900 --> 01:23:43,300 And we are working very hard to, yes. 1830 01:23:43,433 --> 01:23:44,166 Keep that going. 1831 01:23:44,433 --> 01:23:45,433 We've we've gotten. 1832 01:23:46,467 --> 01:23:49,066 Lots of accolades for the work that we've done. 1833 01:23:49,066 --> 01:23:50,533 And we continue to try to. 1834 01:23:52,033 --> 01:23:55,500 Increase the canopy in town because we realize that a lot has been taken 1835 01:23:55,634 --> 01:23:56,667 away over the years. 1836 01:23:56,767 --> 01:23:58,133 And we're trying very hard to. 1837 01:23:59,066 --> 01:24:00,367 Plant as much as we can. 1838 01:24:00,667 --> 01:24:02,266 So I'm glad you brought that up. 1839 01:24:02,667 --> 01:24:02,767 . 1840 01:24:05,634 --> 01:24:06,100 I'll leave it. 1841 01:24:06,100 --> 01:24:07,533 I'll leave it at that for now. 1842 01:24:11,533 --> 01:24:12,834 Sam you're on the board, man. 1843 01:24:12,834 --> 01:24:13,333 What's going on? 1844 01:24:14,634 --> 01:24:15,567 Soaking it all in. 1845 01:24:15,834 --> 01:24:16,000 Yeah. 1846 01:24:17,300 --> 01:24:18,033 Smart man. 1847 01:24:18,533 --> 01:24:20,166 Wife is soaking . 1848 01:24:21,133 --> 01:24:21,767 Wrong with that. 1849 01:24:21,767 --> 01:24:22,734 You don't have anything at this time. 1850 01:24:23,834 --> 01:24:24,033 You sure. 1851 01:24:25,233 --> 01:24:26,367 My, my thoughts are. 1852 01:24:28,567 --> 01:24:28,900 When 1853 01:24:29,900 --> 01:24:33,500 the next to last house on JD hill road was for sale seven or 1854 01:24:33,500 --> 01:24:34,000 eight years ago. 1855 01:24:35,066 --> 01:24:36,300 I was one of the guys that looked at it. 1856 01:24:37,133 --> 01:24:40,433 I did not end up owning it, but at the very unique neighborhood, 1857 01:24:41,333 --> 01:24:42,266 and so I have some sympathy. 1858 01:24:43,100 --> 01:24:44,066 It is very attractive. 1859 01:24:47,033 --> 01:24:48,300 I have a hard time. 1860 01:24:49,333 --> 01:24:49,433 Visualizing 1861 01:24:51,900 --> 01:24:53,133 how this development 1862 01:24:54,700 --> 01:24:56,100 can replace the 1863 01:24:57,900 --> 01:25:01,000 what's the word I want the, the charm that's there now. 1864 01:25:03,166 --> 01:25:05,634 But a sidewalk, some further meetings. 1865 01:25:06,667 --> 01:25:07,634 Meetings.I'll have more to say later, 1866 01:25:08,266 --> 01:25:09,667 but, but I have reservations. 1867 01:25:09,900 --> 01:25:10,066 Yeah. 1868 01:25:11,066 --> 01:25:11,133 Thanks.Yeah. 1869 01:25:11,500 --> 01:25:13,100 Thanks for letting me put you on the spot. 1870 01:25:13,100 --> 01:25:13,433 Okay. 1871 01:25:13,634 --> 01:25:13,734 . 1872 01:25:16,233 --> 01:25:17,900 Let's try to get a sidewalk schedule. 1873 01:25:25,033 --> 01:25:25,133 Yeah. 1874 01:25:25,166 --> 01:25:26,100 So I don't know if. 1875 01:25:27,433 --> 01:25:31,000 It's possible to have the site walk prior to our meeting with the conservation 1876 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:34,066 commission, because that way we could see if Kristen could invite them as well 1877 01:25:34,367 --> 01:25:35,033 When's that? 1878 01:25:35,834 --> 01:25:39,033 We meet with them on October 13th, October 13th. 1879 01:25:39,033 --> 01:25:40,133 Mm-hmm I think so. 1880 01:25:41,867 --> 01:25:42,867 We certainly hope so. 1881 01:25:43,033 --> 01:25:43,533 I hope so. 1882 01:25:48,033 --> 01:25:49,333 You're meeting them on the 13th. 1883 01:25:51,734 --> 01:25:52,166 Mr chairman. 1884 01:25:52,467 --> 01:25:54,767 Yeah, I'll be out of town until the seventh. 1885 01:25:55,634 --> 01:25:56,033 Of October. 1886 01:25:56,233 --> 01:25:56,567 Yeah. 1887 01:25:57,233 --> 01:25:57,567 Okay. 1888 01:25:58,734 --> 01:25:59,834 So we're gonna do it on the seventh. 1889 01:26:00,100 --> 01:26:00,333 No. 1890 01:26:01,033 --> 01:26:02,300 So we gotta do it before the seventh. 1891 01:26:02,500 --> 01:26:03,100 We can do it. 1892 01:26:04,300 --> 01:26:06,333 Could we do it on the 13th right before. 1893 01:26:06,867 --> 01:26:08,367 The meeting is that possible? 1894 01:26:09,100 --> 01:26:10,500 13th is a Tuesday. 1895 01:26:11,567 --> 01:26:12,533 I'll be out of town that week. 1896 01:26:12,567 --> 01:26:12,900 Nope. 1897 01:26:13,133 --> 01:26:13,266 . 1898 01:26:14,867 --> 01:26:17,667 Ah, see, but we can't, I mean, I, I can walk the site on 1899 01:26:17,667 --> 01:26:18,033 my own. 1900 01:26:19,066 --> 01:26:20,033 Take some golf balls up. 1901 01:26:20,266 --> 01:26:20,333 . 1902 01:26:22,066 --> 01:26:22,433 careful. 1903 01:26:25,900 --> 01:26:28,367 What I mean, you're out that, how about that whole week? 1904 01:26:28,367 --> 01:26:29,000 Yeah, that whole week. 1905 01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:29,333 Yeah. 1906 01:26:30,100 --> 01:26:30,634 Right there on the eighth. 1907 01:26:30,900 --> 01:26:31,000 Yep. 1908 01:26:31,166 --> 01:26:32,166 What, what about the eighth? 1909 01:26:32,166 --> 01:26:32,667 They're on the eighth. 1910 01:26:32,734 --> 01:26:33,033 Yep. 1911 01:26:33,033 --> 01:26:34,367 Eighth, the ninth, eighth. 1912 01:26:38,033 --> 01:26:38,767 I can do it as well. 1913 01:26:38,834 --> 01:26:39,367 It's in the morning. 1914 01:26:40,834 --> 01:26:42,634 Eight is a meeting day, too, for us. 1915 01:26:42,900 --> 01:26:44,533 It is, it is at seven o'clock that night. 1916 01:26:44,700 --> 01:26:46,734 Those are always usually good days. 1917 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:47,066 I think, 1918 01:26:48,066 --> 01:26:48,300 I think. 1919 01:26:48,767 --> 01:26:50,000 We have an MTOC meeting then. 1920 01:26:51,066 --> 01:26:52,033 Right that I was thrown out. 1921 01:26:53,066 --> 01:26:55,000 Well, that day confirmed by the other guy. 1922 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,634 Who'll be there right there. 1923 01:26:57,767 --> 01:26:58,133 I scheduled. 1924 01:26:58,266 --> 01:26:59,033 So I guess it's. 1925 01:26:59,233 --> 01:26:59,266 It's flexible. 1926 01:26:59,367 --> 01:27:00,300 We can move that easily. 1927 01:27:00,734 --> 01:27:01,166 You can do. 1928 01:27:01,233 --> 01:27:01,567 Yeah. 1929 01:27:01,667 --> 01:27:02,033 Yeah. 1930 01:27:02,867 --> 01:27:03,567 Because you usually do. 1931 01:27:03,667 --> 01:27:04,166 'em what at eight. 1932 01:27:05,133 --> 01:27:05,500 Yeah. 1933 01:27:05,500 --> 01:27:05,834 Yeah. 1934 01:27:05,934 --> 01:27:06,500 Last time we talked. 1935 01:27:06,500 --> 01:27:08,100 So we usually try to do the sidewalks in the morning. 1936 01:27:08,300 --> 01:27:12,266 We don't last time I couldn't get back in time to get that's why 1937 01:27:12,266 --> 01:27:12,767 I missed it. 1938 01:27:12,900 --> 01:27:13,000 Oh, 1939 01:27:13,333 --> 01:27:13,333 wow. 1940 01:27:13,700 --> 01:27:15,033 What time would work for you on the eighth? 1941 01:27:15,266 --> 01:27:16,500 Eight o'clock eight. 1942 01:27:18,100 --> 01:27:18,166 Thank you. 1943 01:27:18,233 --> 01:27:18,567 Yeah, 1944 01:27:19,533 --> 01:27:20,033 go back. 1945 01:27:20,033 --> 01:27:20,166 Sorry. 1946 01:27:20,367 --> 01:27:21,266 I'm back. 1947 01:27:21,700 --> 01:27:22,166 Can make the eighth. 1948 01:27:24,033 --> 01:27:24,066 At eight. 1949 01:27:24,900 --> 01:27:25,000 Yes. 1950 01:27:26,266 --> 01:27:26,533 Yep. 1951 01:27:27,266 --> 01:27:29,000 We'll just redo our, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1952 01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:29,066 Okay. 1953 01:27:29,166 --> 01:27:30,166 Jen, you can do that one. 1954 01:27:30,166 --> 01:27:30,367 Yep. 1955 01:27:32,033 --> 01:27:33,634 Am on the eighth that works for us. 1956 01:27:37,333 --> 01:27:41,433 Yeah.What would the board like to see staked out the sidewalk, the road center 1957 01:27:41,533 --> 01:27:41,867 line. 1958 01:27:42,867 --> 01:27:43,567 Yeah, I think would be. 1959 01:27:46,533 --> 01:27:49,000 Center of the cul-de-sac yeah, yeah. 1960 01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,433 Maybe road center line, so right to it. 1961 01:27:52,900 --> 01:27:53,734 Probably that easement. 1962 01:27:54,734 --> 01:27:55,033 And 1963 01:27:56,133 --> 01:27:57,734 the some area, just the box easement. 1964 01:27:58,467 --> 01:27:59,734 The easement on the edge way. 1965 01:27:59,934 --> 01:28:00,567 It's pretty obvious. 1966 01:28:00,734 --> 01:28:01,033 I'm sure. 1967 01:28:01,166 --> 01:28:02,367 But just be whoever's. 1968 01:28:03,233 --> 01:28:04,133 Whoever's there for your group, 1969 01:28:04,900 --> 01:28:07,100 able to tell us, show us where that is. 1970 01:28:07,367 --> 01:28:08,533 Do you mean the utilities meant? 1971 01:28:08,667 --> 01:28:09,033 Yeah. 1972 01:28:09,066 --> 01:28:09,367 Okay. 1973 01:28:09,367 --> 01:28:11,100 Oh, utilities, utilities, utilities. 1974 01:28:11,634 --> 01:28:14,266 Were coming in while the tea box one's gonna be off, that's gonna be 1975 01:28:14,266 --> 01:28:15,100 the telephone pole line. 1976 01:28:15,433 --> 01:28:16,433 Yeah, that'll be that's. 1977 01:28:16,433 --> 01:28:16,634 That's fine. 1978 01:28:16,734 --> 01:28:19,367 Marked just so are you looking, looking for the. 1979 01:28:20,100 --> 01:28:20,433 Tee box. 1980 01:28:20,667 --> 01:28:21,033 Yeah. 1981 01:28:21,066 --> 01:28:22,867 I I'd like to see the boundary lines on that. 1982 01:28:23,100 --> 01:28:23,266 Okay. 1983 01:28:25,433 --> 01:28:27,867 And maybe the limit, a cut on the, yeah. 1984 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,033 You know, on the outside of the subdivision. 1985 01:28:30,033 --> 01:28:31,000 So get a sense of. 1986 01:28:31,834 --> 01:28:32,066 Okay. 1987 01:28:32,100 --> 01:28:35,500 And if you had time take place, if you had time to propose a 1988 01:28:35,500 --> 01:28:39,033 recreation area beyond what you've shown so far, there's a bit of a time 1989 01:28:39,100 --> 01:28:39,533 lapse. 1990 01:28:40,867 --> 01:28:44,333 Maybe that if you have an area, even if you're still in the design 1991 01:28:44,333 --> 01:28:45,500 stages, you know what I mean? 1992 01:28:45,500 --> 01:28:47,066 Mm-hmm like where you think it might work. 1993 01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:47,333 Okay. 1994 01:28:47,700 --> 01:28:48,066 Yeah. 1995 01:28:48,533 --> 01:28:50,000 Using the conservation. 1996 01:28:51,066 --> 01:28:53,000 Where the wildlife is, is probably not. 1997 01:28:55,066 --> 01:28:56,300 That didn't excite me at all. 1998 01:28:56,867 --> 01:28:57,033 Okay. 1999 01:28:57,233 --> 01:29:00,667 Just, just, I'm being honest that that's for the wildlife and things. 2000 01:29:00,667 --> 01:29:02,000 We can walk there, but. 2001 01:29:02,533 --> 01:29:03,634 To to think that 2002 01:29:05,266 --> 01:29:06,367 recreation is not 2003 01:29:07,667 --> 01:29:08,033 okay. 2004 01:29:11,066 --> 01:29:11,066 I agree. 2005 01:29:14,433 --> 01:29:16,300 I don't think there's anything else other than. 2006 01:29:18,734 --> 01:29:22,066 Maybe, you know, being able, it's nothing to really mark, but just being able 2007 01:29:22,066 --> 01:29:24,066 to talk as with us further about. 2008 01:29:25,300 --> 01:29:26,066 Your drainage. 2009 01:29:27,433 --> 01:29:28,900 Yes, that's the big one. 2010 01:29:29,700 --> 01:29:32,033 Yeah, I think when we go out there, we can start, you know, 2011 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:34,166 up near the intersection. 2012 01:29:34,300 --> 01:29:34,634 Yeah. 2013 01:29:34,667 --> 01:29:34,900 Oh. 2014 01:29:35,133 --> 01:29:37,500 So we can take a look at that drainage and see how it's all 2015 01:29:37,500 --> 01:29:38,033 gonna function. 2016 01:29:39,066 --> 01:29:40,667 Yes, we do usually talk about where we're gonna park. 2017 01:29:41,634 --> 01:29:43,000 Do we park at the golf course. 2018 01:29:43,033 --> 01:29:43,500 You think? 2019 01:29:43,634 --> 01:29:44,000 I mean, there. 2020 01:29:45,133 --> 01:29:45,433 You have a lot of parking 2021 01:29:46,100 --> 01:29:46,567 in the morning. 2022 01:29:46,900 --> 01:29:47,066 Yeah, 2023 01:29:47,867 --> 01:29:48,133 it should. 2024 01:29:48,233 --> 01:29:49,900 It shouldn't be anybody there at that point. 2025 01:29:50,100 --> 01:29:51,734 That's plea golf pretty 2026 01:29:52,266 --> 01:29:52,667 right. 2027 01:29:52,667 --> 01:29:53,033 Yeah. 2028 01:29:53,033 --> 01:29:53,000 They. 2029 01:29:54,300 --> 01:29:56,433 Dot sunrise really a little later. 2030 01:29:57,900 --> 01:29:59,734 maybe mark off and air will, but I could be wrong park or 2031 01:29:59,734 --> 01:30:00,033 something. 2032 01:30:00,133 --> 01:30:00,500 Okay. 2033 01:30:01,700 --> 01:30:02,500 Would we have our 2034 01:30:03,767 --> 01:30:05,000 TRC responses by then? 2035 01:30:06,133 --> 01:30:07,000 By October 8th. 2036 01:30:07,100 --> 01:30:08,266 So what, when do we, no. 2037 01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:09,433 Is it the eighth? 2038 01:30:09,433 --> 01:30:09,634 Yes. 2039 01:30:09,734 --> 01:30:10,033 The eighth. 2040 01:30:10,233 --> 01:30:10,634 Sorry. 2041 01:30:11,367 --> 01:30:12,767 I would, yeah, I would think so. 2042 01:30:12,767 --> 01:30:13,834 What's the date is. 2043 01:30:14,100 --> 01:30:15,100 There a deadline to resubmit. 2044 01:30:16,367 --> 01:30:18,066 Yeah.I mean, you're probably gonna table it till what? 2045 01:30:18,066 --> 01:30:18,567 The 22nd. 2046 01:30:18,634 --> 01:30:19,000 Yeah. 2047 01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:20,100 October 22nd meeting. 2048 01:30:20,100 --> 01:30:22,500 Well, we've got that far yet so that the deadline would be like the 2049 01:30:22,500 --> 01:30:23,033 15th. 2050 01:30:23,033 --> 01:30:23,066 Yeah. 2051 01:30:23,066 --> 01:30:24,433 You should be able, I mean, should. 2052 01:30:24,767 --> 01:30:25,000 Be able to do that. 2053 01:30:25,066 --> 01:30:27,834 Yeah, we can, we can try to get both then it's just helpful to 2054 01:30:27,834 --> 01:30:28,667 have the responses. 2055 01:30:28,667 --> 01:30:30,266 So grant me questions based on those. 2056 01:30:30,266 --> 01:30:30,567 Yeah. 2057 01:30:30,567 --> 01:30:31,000 I mean, it's only. 2058 01:30:32,133 --> 01:30:33,100 September 10th. 2059 01:30:33,166 --> 01:30:35,033 So I think that's doable for sure. 2060 01:30:37,100 --> 01:30:39,100 Have you already done a sidewalk with conservation? 2061 01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:41,634 We have not, no, that's why we're trying to do it 2062 01:30:42,166 --> 01:30:42,433 a joint. 2063 01:30:42,533 --> 01:30:43,033 So yeah. 2064 01:30:43,433 --> 01:30:44,100 Feel free. 2065 01:30:44,934 --> 01:30:46,033 To invite them to the same one. 2066 01:30:47,066 --> 01:30:48,033 Okay.If that works, 2067 01:30:48,533 --> 01:30:49,433 we've done that before. 2068 01:30:49,700 --> 01:30:51,066 Works fine for us. 2069 01:30:52,467 --> 01:30:55,900 So it's October 8th at 8:00 AM. The public is welcome. 2070 01:30:56,767 --> 01:31:00,100 Mm-hmm , public's encouraged to come oh, with my calendar already. 2071 01:31:00,300 --> 01:31:00,734 All right. 2072 01:31:01,133 --> 01:31:01,266 . 2073 01:31:02,100 --> 01:31:04,567 I can't really ask you guys if you can make it, but if you 2074 01:31:04,567 --> 01:31:05,166 can, it would be helpful. 2075 01:31:05,467 --> 01:31:06,834 It's it's on both calendars. 2076 01:31:06,834 --> 01:31:07,100 All right. 2077 01:31:07,900 --> 01:31:08,100 Personal. 2078 01:31:08,100 --> 01:31:08,266 We're good. 2079 01:31:08,266 --> 01:31:08,834 There you go. 2080 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:10,033 And letter to. 2081 01:31:10,467 --> 01:31:11,000 The select board chair. 2082 01:31:11,233 --> 01:31:12,767 Yes, sooner than later, please. 2083 01:31:15,700 --> 01:31:16,066 Okay. 2084 01:31:16,533 --> 01:31:17,033 One, you hit something. 2085 01:31:17,100 --> 01:31:18,066 Just one quick question. 2086 01:31:21,467 --> 01:31:23,133 Well, yeah, I think they'll continue us 2087 01:31:24,066 --> 01:31:25,033 determine the date. 2088 01:31:25,900 --> 01:31:29,066 Go ahead, Olivia, on your, on your original yield plan. 2089 01:31:30,100 --> 01:31:32,033 On the Eastern side of the property. 2090 01:31:32,934 --> 01:31:33,033 There's 2091 01:31:35,433 --> 01:31:39,367 the dotted line that goes from the Stonewall to the edge. 2092 01:31:40,166 --> 01:31:42,567 It's a, it's a, it's kind of in the middle of that big, clear 2093 01:31:42,567 --> 01:31:44,300 space, which is your golf course. 2094 01:31:45,333 --> 01:31:45,734 The dotted 2095 01:31:46,533 --> 01:31:47,000 right. 2096 01:31:48,033 --> 01:31:48,500 Right down a little bit. 2097 01:31:48,867 --> 01:31:49,900 It goes horizontal. 2098 01:31:50,133 --> 01:31:53,033 That one on the original yield plan you had. 2099 01:31:54,100 --> 01:31:54,033 A proposed 2100 01:31:55,033 --> 01:31:56,533 property line that came down. 2101 01:31:57,533 --> 01:32:00,100 It was kind of squared off conservation. 2102 01:32:00,133 --> 01:32:01,266 What happened with that? 2103 01:32:02,300 --> 01:32:03,033 That's conservation, 2104 01:32:03,667 --> 01:32:04,000 I think. 2105 01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:07,667 Yeah, I think so that, that line currently is the limit of the conservation 2106 01:32:09,066 --> 01:32:12,266 Easement, but I think, I think I don't have with me, but I think 2107 01:32:12,266 --> 01:32:15,266 what it was was originally we had a slightly different. 2108 01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:16,300 It was like, 2109 01:32:17,233 --> 01:32:18,567 here's the, can you see that? 2110 01:32:19,634 --> 01:32:19,634 Yes. 2111 01:32:19,734 --> 01:32:21,066 And it was a line that. 2112 01:32:22,300 --> 01:32:24,500 Was like you changed the property line? 2113 01:32:24,834 --> 01:32:28,367 Yeah, I think originally we weren't sure how much of the property we were 2114 01:32:28,367 --> 01:32:29,734 going to be getting from. 2115 01:32:30,100 --> 01:32:30,634 The country club. 2116 01:32:30,900 --> 01:32:33,300 So that was revised with our latest provision. 2117 01:32:33,300 --> 01:32:33,533 Okay. 2118 01:32:33,700 --> 01:32:36,300 But this is follow the road accurate because otherwise it was kind of just 2119 01:32:36,333 --> 01:32:38,033 a little excess piece of plan. 2120 01:32:38,467 --> 01:32:38,533 It's kind. 2121 01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:42,033 We just knew the road was gonna be in that, that rectangle. 2122 01:32:42,066 --> 01:32:42,166 Yeah. 2123 01:32:42,233 --> 01:32:44,000 That you're you were pointing to on your plan. 2124 01:32:44,934 --> 01:32:46,367 And we just only took what we needed. 2125 01:32:46,367 --> 01:32:46,734 Okay. 2126 01:32:46,767 --> 01:32:47,834 And left the rest of the golf. 2127 01:32:47,834 --> 01:32:48,066 Okay. 2128 01:32:48,066 --> 01:32:48,133 Okay. 2129 01:32:48,266 --> 01:32:49,367 So I can ignore that. 2130 01:32:49,700 --> 01:32:50,100 All right. 2131 01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:52,367 Thanks. 2132 01:32:53,867 --> 01:32:55,066 So I think I'm looking for a motion. 2133 01:32:59,133 --> 01:33:00,500 Both table to 2134 01:33:01,533 --> 01:33:02,300 continue, whatever it is. 2135 01:33:02,367 --> 01:33:03,033 Go. Yeah. 2136 01:33:03,934 --> 01:33:07,333 What was the date, Mr. Sharples, that you suggested we table at 22nd, 2137 01:33:08,133 --> 01:33:09,133 October 22nd. 2138 01:33:09,333 --> 01:33:09,667 Okay. 2139 01:33:10,467 --> 01:33:10,500 Second. 2140 01:33:10,500 --> 01:33:10,767 Yep. 2141 01:33:10,767 --> 01:33:11,634 No AK room seven. 2142 01:33:11,634 --> 01:33:12,433 That'll work for you guys. 2143 01:33:13,333 --> 01:33:13,367 That does. 2144 01:33:13,467 --> 01:33:14,634 Yeah, that works well. 2145 01:33:14,700 --> 01:33:16,000 So that it's after the sidewalk. 2146 01:33:16,133 --> 01:33:16,300 Yeah. 2147 01:33:17,533 --> 01:33:18,867 And the concrete make, 2148 01:33:20,467 --> 01:33:21,166 I'll give it a shot. 2149 01:33:21,734 --> 01:33:23,033 I moved that weed table. 2150 01:33:24,300 --> 01:33:25,333 Planning board. 2151 01:33:26,834 --> 01:33:29,734 Case number 26 dash 14. 2152 01:33:30,667 --> 01:33:33,634 To our October 22nd, 2026. 2153 01:33:34,467 --> 01:33:36,634 Meeting here in the no back room at 7:00 PM. 2154 01:33:39,033 --> 01:33:39,333 Second. 2155 01:33:40,500 --> 01:33:41,133 Any discussion, 2156 01:33:43,100 --> 01:33:43,767 all those in favor. 2157 01:33:44,500 --> 01:33:44,767 Aye. 2158 01:33:44,867 --> 01:33:45,100 Aye. 2159 01:33:45,133 --> 01:33:45,166 Yes. 2160 01:33:46,133 --> 01:33:47,767 Pensions opposed. 2161 01:33:49,767 --> 01:33:50,834 Thank you cabled. 2162 01:33:50,834 --> 01:33:51,166 Thank you. 2163 01:33:52,834 --> 01:33:53,567 Thank you very much. 2164 01:33:53,767 --> 01:33:54,100 Yeah. 2165 01:33:54,033 --> 01:33:54,867 Thanks for coming. 2166 01:33:56,700 --> 01:33:57,000 Mr. 2167 01:33:58,867 --> 01:33:58,867 Yes, 2168 01:34:01,867 --> 01:34:02,133 I'm sorry. 2169 01:34:03,233 --> 01:34:03,634 You wanna leave? 2170 01:34:04,533 --> 01:34:04,834 No, 2171 01:34:05,634 --> 01:34:06,133 that's okay. 2172 01:34:07,834 --> 01:34:09,033 Yeah, I know that. 2173 01:34:09,300 --> 01:34:09,867 Look a little. 2174 01:34:14,467 --> 01:34:14,634 Oh, boy, I, I, 2175 01:34:16,467 --> 01:34:17,166 you look pretty close 2176 01:34:19,433 --> 01:34:19,634 elevator. 2177 01:34:20,634 --> 01:34:21,166 You okay to drive? 2178 01:34:21,533 --> 01:34:21,867 Yeah. 2179 01:34:21,867 --> 01:34:22,300 Yeah, yeah. 2180 01:34:23,300 --> 01:34:24,000 She said this guy. 2181 01:34:25,133 --> 01:34:25,900 Yeah, no problem. 2182 01:34:27,233 --> 01:34:27,266 Okay. 2183 01:34:29,667 --> 01:34:30,033 Yeah. 2184 01:34:30,867 --> 01:34:30,900 Thank you. 2185 01:34:30,900 --> 01:34:31,100 Ma'am. 2186 01:34:39,533 --> 01:34:40,100 Meeting 2187 01:34:40,667 --> 01:34:41,066 table. 2188 01:34:42,300 --> 01:34:44,500 Table the office 27th meeting minutes. 2189 01:34:44,834 --> 01:34:46,000 Cause they weren't in attack. 2190 01:34:46,066 --> 01:34:46,166 Sure. 2191 01:34:47,066 --> 01:34:48,266 Okay, can do it any time. 2192 01:34:49,333 --> 01:34:53,033 Just for the record, Jen Martel, excused herself due to illness. 2193 01:34:56,033 --> 01:34:58,000 Can I say one thing you can try. 2194 01:35:01,767 --> 01:35:02,867 I might a little closer. 2195 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:03,533 That's it. 2196 01:35:03,533 --> 01:35:05,066 Thank you for the sidewalk. 2197 01:35:05,900 --> 01:35:07,066 You can park in the exit or. 2198 01:35:07,233 --> 01:35:07,500 Exeter country park. 2199 01:35:07,867 --> 01:35:08,266 Oh, thank you. 2200 01:35:08,367 --> 01:35:09,667 I just figured answer that question. 2201 01:35:09,834 --> 01:35:10,100 Thank you. 2202 01:35:10,100 --> 01:35:10,900 Appreciate it. 2203 01:35:12,033 --> 01:35:12,533 We'll be parking. 2204 01:35:14,467 --> 01:35:15,367 Do you want a table that. 2205 01:35:16,166 --> 01:35:20,867 I moved that we table our meeting minutes from our August 27th. 2206 01:35:21,700 --> 01:35:23,867 2026 meeting. 2207 01:35:24,934 --> 01:35:25,000 Two, 2208 01:35:26,233 --> 01:35:26,667 I'm sorry. 2209 01:35:27,667 --> 01:35:27,900 Are 2210 01:35:29,033 --> 01:35:29,100 two 2211 01:35:30,867 --> 01:35:33,000 September 24th, 2026 meeting. 2212 01:35:34,467 --> 01:35:36,433 Second discussion. 2213 01:35:37,333 --> 01:35:38,066 All those in favor. 2214 01:35:38,233 --> 01:35:38,500 Aye. 2215 01:35:38,667 --> 01:35:38,900 Aye. 2216 01:35:38,900 --> 01:35:39,066 Aye. 2217 01:35:39,367 --> 01:35:39,734 Both. 2218 01:35:43,133 --> 01:35:43,834 That was easy. 2219 01:35:45,033 --> 01:35:45,133 okay. 2220 01:35:47,100 --> 01:35:48,066 We on to the next. 2221 01:35:48,934 --> 01:35:49,066 Case 2222 01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:51,367 think everybody's cleared out now. 2223 01:35:51,700 --> 01:35:52,000 Wow. 2224 01:35:53,667 --> 01:35:54,166 Quiet room. 2225 01:35:54,667 --> 01:35:54,734 . 2226 01:35:56,166 --> 01:35:57,667 Must have been something you said, I know. 2227 01:35:59,066 --> 01:35:59,734 with something they said, 2228 01:36:00,467 --> 01:36:03,333 okay, I'm going to start the next case application of. 2229 01:36:04,166 --> 01:36:05,533 I'm sorry if I say this wrong. 2230 01:36:06,467 --> 01:36:07,367 Vanessa hanging. 2231 01:36:08,767 --> 01:36:10,033 Bruce Bruce Lee Inc. 2232 01:36:11,066 --> 01:36:11,100 V B H 2233 01:36:12,667 --> 01:36:12,900 BHP. 2234 01:36:13,700 --> 01:36:14,133 Thank you. 2235 01:36:14,900 --> 01:36:15,066 Yeah. 2236 01:36:16,900 --> 01:36:17,300 VHB yeah. 2237 01:36:17,533 --> 01:36:19,100 Type says VB type. 2238 01:36:19,100 --> 01:36:19,300 It's a, 2239 01:36:20,133 --> 01:36:21,367 yeah, it doesn't wear Ru line up. 2240 01:36:21,367 --> 01:36:21,767 Does it? 2241 01:36:22,867 --> 01:36:24,734 VB V H B . 2242 01:36:25,700 --> 01:36:30,000 On behalf of S P N H Exeter, LLC, for a lot line adjustment 2243 01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:30,166 between. 2244 01:36:31,066 --> 01:36:32,533 Map 66. 2245 01:36:33,333 --> 01:36:38,567 Lots one and two through the transfer of approximately 3009, three, three point. 2246 01:36:39,066 --> 01:36:41,066 Excellent.3009 acres, three point. 2247 01:36:41,700 --> 01:36:43,834 That's a darn big watch an adjustment. 2248 01:36:43,934 --> 01:36:45,066 That is a big model adjustment. 2249 01:36:45,367 --> 01:36:46,533 The Prairie half of the town. 2250 01:36:48,233 --> 01:36:48,900 Oh, oh nine. 2251 01:36:49,033 --> 01:36:49,133 Yeah. 2252 01:36:49,333 --> 01:36:49,767 We're. 2253 01:36:50,533 --> 01:36:51,000 Metra. 2254 01:36:51,767 --> 01:36:52,333 I have a much bigger 2255 01:36:53,100 --> 01:36:53,567 thousand. 2256 01:36:55,433 --> 01:36:57,100 Yeah, 3.09 acres. 2257 01:36:57,166 --> 01:36:57,533 Geez. 2258 01:36:58,667 --> 01:37:03,900 A map 66 lot one owned by Palmer Sakara, Inc. To map 66, lot 2259 01:37:04,033 --> 01:37:05,000 two owned by. 2260 01:37:06,100 --> 01:37:10,000 North country trust planning, board case number 26 dash 15. 2261 01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:12,333 Hopefully I didn't butcher that too much, but. 2262 01:37:13,333 --> 01:37:15,033 I tend to think I might have no it's okay. 2263 01:37:15,934 --> 01:37:18,066 Hey, chairman, Mr. Chairman fresh, just for the record. 2264 01:37:18,934 --> 01:37:21,367 I've mentioned this before, but I've recently retire. 2265 01:37:21,700 --> 01:37:22,300 Retired from VHB. 2266 01:37:23,333 --> 01:37:24,133 I thought you looked familiar. 2267 01:37:24,133 --> 01:37:24,500 Yeah, 2268 01:37:25,166 --> 01:37:28,533 I, I was not involved in this project prior to my retirement, so 2269 01:37:28,533 --> 01:37:29,767 I don't see any reason to be excuse. 2270 01:37:30,100 --> 01:37:33,033 Accused myself, but if anybody would like me to, I could go home. 2271 01:37:34,700 --> 01:37:36,867 you okay with my feeling with that, Marty? 2272 01:37:37,433 --> 01:37:38,066 I, I think. 2273 01:37:38,300 --> 01:37:38,867 You do the right thing. 2274 01:37:38,867 --> 01:37:39,567 You're bringing it up. 2275 01:37:39,567 --> 01:37:40,834 Mm-hmm putting it out there. 2276 01:37:40,834 --> 01:37:42,066 You're asking for input. 2277 01:37:42,867 --> 01:37:45,567 I think generally in those situations, that's the right thing to do. 2278 01:37:45,667 --> 01:37:47,000 And also it's your internal. 2279 01:37:48,033 --> 01:37:48,100 You know. 2280 01:37:48,100 --> 01:37:49,100 Right, right, right, right. 2281 01:37:49,100 --> 01:37:50,567 And then, so I, I respect. 2282 01:37:51,433 --> 01:37:54,100 Your conscience and I Jimy crickets telling you that. 2283 01:37:54,100 --> 01:37:54,834 You're okay. 2284 01:37:55,033 --> 01:37:55,433 I'm good. 2285 01:37:55,734 --> 01:37:57,100 I'm gonna tell you, I feel you're okay. 2286 01:37:58,033 --> 01:37:58,367 I think he's okay. 2287 01:37:58,533 --> 01:37:59,000 I think he's fine. 2288 01:37:59,834 --> 01:38:00,100 He's fine.You sure? 2289 01:38:00,100 --> 01:38:01,033 Sam, he looks little shaded. 2290 01:38:01,033 --> 01:38:02,066 I like brings wanna get him out there. 2291 01:38:02,133 --> 01:38:02,767 He looks just fine. 2292 01:38:02,867 --> 01:38:03,033 Yeah. 2293 01:38:03,533 --> 01:38:04,166 I do appreciate. 2294 01:38:04,166 --> 01:38:04,533 Thanks Sam. 2295 01:38:04,533 --> 01:38:05,500 You bringing it up though? 2296 01:38:05,700 --> 01:38:06,133 It's out there. 2297 01:38:06,567 --> 01:38:06,900 Yeah. 2298 01:38:06,900 --> 01:38:07,533 It's a way to go. 2299 01:38:09,100 --> 01:38:10,033 Dave, are we good? 2300 01:38:11,066 --> 01:38:14,266 Yeah, the I'll I'll have some comments in a second, but I'll just say 2301 01:38:14,266 --> 01:38:18,500 it's complete for review purposes, in my opinion, you should, you know, so we 2302 01:38:18,500 --> 01:38:19,066 should open the. 2303 01:38:19,233 --> 01:38:23,734 Case, except it is complete vote on acceptance as complete for review purposes. 2304 01:38:24,133 --> 01:38:25,133 So op to open the case. 2305 01:38:25,166 --> 01:38:25,433 Yes. 2306 01:38:25,834 --> 01:38:26,166 Somebody hear that. 2307 01:38:27,233 --> 01:38:27,266 Yes. 2308 01:38:27,900 --> 01:38:28,834 Somebody wanna make that motion? 2309 01:38:29,100 --> 01:38:29,266 Sure. 2310 01:38:29,500 --> 01:38:31,000 I make a motion that we accept. 2311 01:38:32,634 --> 01:38:33,500 Planning board case. 2312 01:38:34,533 --> 01:38:36,166 26 dash 15. 2313 01:38:37,233 --> 01:38:38,066 And open the case 2314 01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,166 complete for review purposes, purposes. 2315 01:38:42,934 --> 01:38:44,166 And I will second that. 2316 01:38:45,433 --> 01:38:47,634 In discussion, all those in favor. 2317 01:38:47,767 --> 01:38:48,066 Aye. 2318 01:38:48,066 --> 01:38:48,100 Aye. 2319 01:38:48,100 --> 01:38:48,333 Aye. 2320 01:38:48,367 --> 01:38:48,634 Aye. 2321 01:38:49,900 --> 01:38:51,133 Opposed, same. 2322 01:38:52,166 --> 01:38:52,533 We're open. 2323 01:38:52,767 --> 01:38:53,100 Okay. 2324 01:38:53,667 --> 01:38:55,066 Just wanted to make up a point. 2325 01:38:55,667 --> 01:38:59,266 I'm gonna Dave, if you heard about it, but our, we got a spam 2326 01:39:00,066 --> 01:39:00,266 spa. 2327 01:39:00,567 --> 01:39:02,300 Spam.Oh, he said that attempt this morning, where. 2328 01:39:03,133 --> 01:39:04,367 Somebody posed as a 2329 01:39:05,333 --> 01:39:10,100 external employee used all the information from online and said, you owe us by 2330 01:39:10,100 --> 01:39:12,834 the, by the start of the meeting, you owe us an approval fee. 2331 01:39:13,700 --> 01:39:15,767 That's happened and here give us your wiring information. 2332 01:39:16,567 --> 01:39:19,533 And they actually went back and forth before they realized, like, that's scary. 2333 01:39:19,567 --> 01:39:24,033 This doesn't make any sense, but just given I, if there's other people that 2334 01:39:24,033 --> 01:39:24,533 are coming up. 2335 01:39:24,934 --> 01:39:25,000 On 2336 01:39:25,900 --> 01:39:28,333 for applications, just to let them know that, keep an eye on that 2337 01:39:29,166 --> 01:39:30,300 the town doesn't require. 2338 01:39:31,233 --> 01:39:31,900 Yeah, wiring. 2339 01:39:32,133 --> 01:39:34,033 I did not the fees for somewhere. 2340 01:39:34,533 --> 01:39:34,867 Yeah. 2341 01:39:34,867 --> 01:39:36,033 It just happened this afternoon. 2342 01:39:36,333 --> 01:39:36,667 Yeah. 2343 01:39:36,667 --> 01:39:39,266 That was part of my public service announcement that I was gonna do later 2344 01:39:39,634 --> 01:39:40,734 Because you weren't the only one. 2345 01:39:41,033 --> 01:39:41,634 No, no problem. 2346 01:39:41,700 --> 01:39:44,000 I'm you, weren't the only one on this agenda that got hit. 2347 01:39:44,233 --> 01:39:47,300 They, they must look at the PA planning board packets on the website. 2348 01:39:48,033 --> 01:39:50,166 Where your email, your phone back all there. 2349 01:39:50,367 --> 01:39:51,567 Your name is all there. 2350 01:39:51,767 --> 01:39:55,867 So they contact, they contacted the prior application too, like two days ago. 2351 01:39:56,166 --> 01:39:57,533 And tried to get an approval fee. 2352 01:39:57,634 --> 01:40:00,033 So the town of exit will never ask for. 2353 01:40:00,900 --> 01:40:05,000 You know, demand money right away, and you can always come in and pay 2354 01:40:05,133 --> 01:40:05,834 for a check. 2355 01:40:05,934 --> 01:40:08,433 We never ask for, we don't even have the ability to get it. 2356 01:40:09,133 --> 01:40:09,533 Wired to us. 2357 01:40:09,634 --> 01:40:14,066 So especially the other day, someone asked for an Austin, Texas, so we we're 2358 01:40:14,066 --> 01:40:14,634 not in Texas. 2359 01:40:14,867 --> 01:40:15,533 So if anyone. 2360 01:40:16,367 --> 01:40:17,567 Asks you for that, it's a scam. 2361 01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,500 So maybe that's something also to mention. 2362 01:40:21,533 --> 01:40:21,667 Unfortunately 2363 01:40:22,300 --> 01:40:26,100 to applicants when you meet with them initially and such right when they're doing 2364 01:40:26,100 --> 01:40:27,000 the application or 2365 01:40:27,500 --> 01:40:29,567 the department, I mean, within reason, obvious. 2366 01:40:29,900 --> 01:40:30,033 Obviously, yeah. 2367 01:40:30,266 --> 01:40:32,300 Maybe put a, you know, yeah. 2368 01:40:32,367 --> 01:40:33,900 That's something in the real estate world. 2369 01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,033 We actually have that on our contracts now. 2370 01:40:37,533 --> 01:40:40,100 It's that bad where people are getting requested to. 2371 01:40:41,133 --> 01:40:42,567 Wire deposit monies and such. 2372 01:40:42,634 --> 01:40:44,834 And it's just, it's pretty crazy out there. 2373 01:40:44,834 --> 01:40:45,033 Isn't it? 2374 01:40:45,033 --> 01:40:45,300 Yeah. 2375 01:40:45,667 --> 01:40:46,033 Yeah. 2376 01:40:46,867 --> 01:40:49,166 So I'm gonna send the town managers aware of it. 2377 01:40:50,300 --> 01:40:51,900 I just, I just found out about it. 2378 01:40:53,133 --> 01:40:55,100 Before the meeting, so, oh, so he had already lied. 2379 01:40:55,300 --> 01:40:56,734 I had, he'd already lied meeting. 2380 01:40:56,734 --> 01:40:57,100 Are you tomorrow? 2381 01:40:57,100 --> 01:40:59,667 Could you talk to him cuz they might wanna put a, a, a warrant 2382 01:40:59,667 --> 01:41:01,166 That's what I was thinking like a bit on our website. 2383 01:41:01,533 --> 01:41:01,567 Website. 2384 01:41:01,834 --> 01:41:03,033 Yeah, I think that would be important. 2385 01:41:03,333 --> 01:41:04,133 Thank you for bringing that. 2386 01:41:04,166 --> 01:41:05,066 I was gonna say it. 2387 01:41:05,433 --> 01:41:09,033 It's good where we've seen it happened up in Lebanon two. 2388 01:41:09,900 --> 01:41:10,066 The 2389 01:41:10,734 --> 01:41:11,166 the savvy 2390 01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:13,500 people that do it all the time were okay. 2391 01:41:13,634 --> 01:41:18,066 It was the people that going in for zoning relief or a front yard 2392 01:41:18,066 --> 01:41:20,066 setback that who don't do it all the. 2393 01:41:20,367 --> 01:41:21,634 Time that really got hit by that. 2394 01:41:22,133 --> 01:41:24,567 I know it'd be easy to put, send the money in. 2395 01:41:24,567 --> 01:41:27,734 Absolutely be seen again, especially if you, you know, not sound weird, but especially 2396 01:41:27,734 --> 01:41:28,433 if you don't ask for. 2397 01:41:28,767 --> 01:41:29,066 That much. 2398 01:41:29,734 --> 01:41:30,367 I know, you know what I mean? 2399 01:41:30,367 --> 01:41:33,066 Like on a box or whatever, that was five grand. 2400 01:41:33,166 --> 01:41:34,066 This one was five grand. 2401 01:41:34,266 --> 01:41:35,900 That's a pretty, I've been asking for five grand. 2402 01:41:35,934 --> 01:41:36,367 I'd say ambition. 2403 01:41:36,433 --> 01:41:36,767 Yeah. 2404 01:41:37,133 --> 01:41:37,000 . 2405 01:41:38,133 --> 01:41:38,300 Yeah. 2406 01:41:38,734 --> 01:41:40,367 And then may I just say my before. 2407 01:41:41,233 --> 01:41:43,000 No, I just have some opening comments. 2408 01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:43,100 Yeah. 2409 01:41:43,100 --> 01:41:44,033 Just to make, just 2410 01:41:44,867 --> 01:41:46,033 as you said, this is a lot merger. 2411 01:41:46,133 --> 01:41:47,533 It's a boundary line adjustment. 2412 01:41:47,700 --> 01:41:49,000 No new lots are being created. 2413 01:41:49,533 --> 01:41:53,634 It's taken two lots and it's adjusting the boundary between them and it's adding 2414 01:41:54,667 --> 01:41:57,433 Some land area to one of the lots and taking it away from the 2415 01:41:57,433 --> 01:41:57,667 other. 2416 01:41:59,033 --> 01:42:00,100 Basically, it's just 2417 01:42:01,133 --> 01:42:04,300 there's a landlocked parcel that, that owned by north north country. 2418 01:42:04,767 --> 01:42:05,000 Trust. 2419 01:42:05,900 --> 01:42:10,500 And parliaments has front of John Holland way and they're giving three acres along. 2420 01:42:11,233 --> 01:42:12,567 That they own in front of. 2421 01:42:13,533 --> 01:42:15,433 The the main parcels to provide frontage. 2422 01:42:16,367 --> 01:42:17,867 For the north country trust lot. 2423 01:42:18,667 --> 01:42:19,100 He'll describe it. 2424 01:42:19,667 --> 01:42:22,567 What I do with the lot line adjustments, you just review the plans for 2425 01:42:22,567 --> 01:42:26,367 consistency, with our land use regulations to determine if they violate. 2426 01:42:27,066 --> 01:42:30,567 Any zoning ordinances, you know, does it, does it make one lot less? 2427 01:42:32,066 --> 01:42:35,033 Less conform or less than the minimum lot area per se, 2428 01:42:35,700 --> 01:42:37,667 or does it, you know, affect the build lot area? 2429 01:42:37,667 --> 01:42:39,033 These are very large, lots. 2430 01:42:39,033 --> 01:42:39,300 It. 2431 01:42:39,834 --> 01:42:41,900 Does not violate in my opinion, any of the zoning. 2432 01:42:42,900 --> 01:42:45,433 Terms of the zoning ordinance or our other regulations. 2433 01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:50,634 The applicant does request two waivers, but I don't believe either of these. 2434 01:42:51,066 --> 01:42:54,667 Apply as this is merely a lot line adjustment and no lot new lots 2435 01:42:54,667 --> 01:42:55,133 are being created. 2436 01:42:55,266 --> 01:42:56,066 In my opinion. 2437 01:42:57,133 --> 01:42:58,567 So I believe the that's what it meant to be safe. 2438 01:42:59,033 --> 01:42:59,266 yeah. 2439 01:42:59,367 --> 01:43:01,867 I think the waivers are moot, but I'll let you know. 2440 01:43:01,900 --> 01:43:02,900 They're they're in there. 2441 01:43:03,166 --> 01:43:04,266 They're being requested. 2442 01:43:04,433 --> 01:43:05,033 I don't believe. 2443 01:43:05,333 --> 01:43:06,133 Either one of them are necessary. 2444 01:43:07,734 --> 01:43:08,300 That's all I have. 2445 01:43:08,300 --> 01:43:08,667 Mr. Chairman. 2446 01:43:08,667 --> 01:43:09,000 Thank you. 2447 01:43:09,233 --> 01:43:09,500 Yep. 2448 01:43:10,567 --> 01:43:11,033 Great. 2449 01:43:11,100 --> 01:43:15,634 So I'm Dave FEMA from DHB and I'm representing the, the applicant. 2450 01:43:16,734 --> 01:43:17,033 Statement. 2451 01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:18,166 I did a little color exhibit. 2452 01:43:18,166 --> 01:43:20,567 It was a little easier to see, but as he mentioned, we're. 2453 01:43:22,934 --> 01:43:28,634 My client owns this lot too, which is landlocked up here is Holland way 2454 01:43:29,934 --> 01:43:33,033 So in the event, we are gonna develop this for any purpose. 2455 01:43:33,467 --> 01:43:36,900 And it's also something that we've talked with the town about, where there could 2456 01:43:36,900 --> 01:43:37,634 be a potential. 2457 01:43:38,266 --> 01:43:41,100 You know, location for a new water treatment plant. 2458 01:43:42,467 --> 01:43:45,834 Any, any scenario, those that would need to be a curb cut on hauling 2459 01:43:45,834 --> 01:43:47,000 way to access the site. 2460 01:43:48,033 --> 01:43:49,000 And it's landlocked. 2461 01:43:49,166 --> 01:43:49,433 So 2462 01:43:50,500 --> 01:43:54,266 you can see, but the Palmers, the car had a, has a weird panhandle 2463 01:43:54,266 --> 01:43:55,133 shaped to it right here. 2464 01:43:56,166 --> 01:43:57,533 Really unusable for them. 2465 01:43:59,066 --> 01:44:01,834 So they've reached an agreement where this little wedge here. 2466 01:44:02,667 --> 01:44:03,333 About three acres 2467 01:44:04,066 --> 01:44:08,300 would just get flipped over so you can see the, the lots basically remain 2468 01:44:08,300 --> 01:44:09,667 this about the same. 2469 01:44:09,900 --> 01:44:10,567 There's just a. 2470 01:44:11,066 --> 01:44:13,266 Flipping of the three acres from, from one to the other. 2471 01:44:14,100 --> 01:44:18,100 And now this, they each have appropriate frontage on Holland way for a curb 2472 01:44:18,100 --> 01:44:19,000 cut at some point. 2473 01:44:22,867 --> 01:44:24,100 The waivers that we discussed. 2474 01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:27,900 And again, one of them said if deemed necessary about the town planner. 2475 01:44:28,033 --> 01:44:30,667 So it sounds like not deemed for, but it really. 2476 01:44:31,066 --> 01:44:32,266 Got into, if you were creating new lots. 2477 01:44:33,333 --> 01:44:37,133 Lots.And it wanted you to provide a high intensity soil survey for the entire 2478 01:44:37,133 --> 01:44:38,066 site or portion. 2479 01:44:39,934 --> 01:44:42,767 We were just noting that, you know, the intent is really the lot line 2480 01:44:42,767 --> 01:44:43,133 adjustment. 2481 01:44:43,133 --> 01:44:44,867 There's no proposed uses at this time. 2482 01:44:45,900 --> 01:44:48,333 And that as we move forward, if a site plan or things like that 2483 01:44:48,533 --> 01:44:51,367 move forward, then this would be something that could be visited at that time 2484 01:44:52,233 --> 01:44:56,100 And again, the w item w was also the location of test pits. 2485 01:44:57,333 --> 01:44:58,667 Pits for septic reserve again. 2486 01:44:59,667 --> 01:45:03,500 Wasn't appropriate for what we were doing now for the, the lot line adjustment 2487 01:45:04,367 --> 01:45:06,266 That's it now I'll just add, we've never. 2488 01:45:07,233 --> 01:45:09,433 Required that for any lot money adjustments since I've been here. 2489 01:45:10,867 --> 01:45:14,000 So nor have we ever required a waiver from those. 2490 01:45:15,033 --> 01:45:18,667 So, yeah, if it makes sense, I can just either leave the, we can 2491 01:45:18,667 --> 01:45:21,500 leave the waivers in or just, I can just pull 'em and if they're 2492 01:45:21,500 --> 01:45:22,834 not, well, I think, yeah. 2493 01:45:23,233 --> 01:45:23,266 They're in there. 2494 01:45:23,533 --> 01:45:25,033 I think we just said it. 2495 01:45:25,066 --> 01:45:28,500 I mean, if they, if the plaintiff board agrees, they're basically withdrawn and they're 2496 01:45:28,500 --> 01:45:29,066 not withdrawn in considering. 2497 01:45:29,066 --> 01:45:29,367 Yeah. 2498 01:45:29,533 --> 01:45:29,867 Okay. 2499 01:45:30,667 --> 01:45:32,900 They've never asked for before, so I don't know why they would now. 2500 01:45:33,934 --> 01:45:36,834 Beyond that there's nothing really exciting about my presentation. 2501 01:45:36,834 --> 01:45:38,100 We're just flipping three acres. 2502 01:45:39,066 --> 01:45:40,367 To get, I, I'm not sure what happened. 2503 01:45:40,700 --> 01:45:42,367 Nine was put in where. 2504 01:45:43,433 --> 01:45:46,734 This, this usual, this 33 acres was landmark part of, 2505 01:45:47,266 --> 01:45:49,133 but this is a good time to address it. 2506 01:45:49,233 --> 01:45:50,300 And I know that. 2507 01:45:51,100 --> 01:45:52,867 The applicant is also working with 2508 01:45:53,433 --> 01:45:53,900 D O T. 2509 01:45:55,066 --> 01:45:57,066 T on there's a limited access right away along haul. 2510 01:45:57,166 --> 01:46:00,266 So they're working with D O T to, to on an agreement for that 2511 01:46:00,266 --> 01:46:00,667 as well. 2512 01:46:01,700 --> 01:46:01,734 Mm-hmm 2513 01:46:04,867 --> 01:46:06,000 any questions for the applicant. 2514 01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:09,500 I only, no, I'm good. 2515 01:46:09,700 --> 01:46:11,300 Any members of the public want to speak? 2516 01:46:12,934 --> 01:46:13,634 Bring it back to the board. 2517 01:46:13,634 --> 01:46:14,333 He's getting punchy. 2518 01:46:14,767 --> 01:46:14,834 . 2519 01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:17,133 Mr Sharples, do you have any. 2520 01:46:18,300 --> 01:46:19,567 Suggested conditions of approval. 2521 01:46:19,567 --> 01:46:20,500 Mm-hmm yes, I do. 2522 01:46:21,634 --> 01:46:22,667 You would you like to hear them? 2523 01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:25,667 Mm-hmm it would be number one, the subdivision. 2524 01:46:26,667 --> 01:46:30,066 Plan shall be submitted as a shape file or CAD file in New Hampshire state 2525 01:46:30,066 --> 01:46:30,433 plane. 2526 01:46:31,433 --> 01:46:35,533 Coordinates to the satisfaction of the town planner and to all monumentation shall be 2527 01:46:35,533 --> 01:46:36,867 set in accordance with nine. 2528 01:46:37,900 --> 01:46:42,367 Section 9.25 of the extra site plan, review and subdivision regulations. 2529 01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:47,734 Those both sound appropriate to us. 2530 01:46:48,934 --> 01:46:49,100 Okay. 2531 01:46:49,300 --> 01:46:50,634 I just need to get the number. 2532 01:46:50,734 --> 01:46:51,300 There we go. 2533 01:46:55,133 --> 01:46:59,367 Are you ready for, I'm gonna give this a shot that 26 15 is so 2534 01:46:59,367 --> 01:47:00,266 over to the other side. 2535 01:47:00,767 --> 01:47:04,867 So I am going to move that the request for is it van asked 2536 01:47:06,433 --> 01:47:08,033 VHP, but vans close enough last time. 2537 01:47:08,100 --> 01:47:08,133 Yep. 2538 01:47:08,533 --> 01:47:09,000 Hagan. 2539 01:47:09,900 --> 01:47:10,433 Brusk Inc. 2540 01:47:11,266 --> 01:47:12,900 On behalf of S P. 2541 01:47:13,700 --> 01:47:16,667 New NHX exit or LLC for lot line adjustment. 2542 01:47:17,533 --> 01:47:19,500 To transfer approximately 3.9. 2543 01:47:20,467 --> 01:47:20,867 Acres. 2544 01:47:21,166 --> 01:47:23,900 Oh, oh, nine 3.009. 2545 01:47:24,033 --> 01:47:24,567 Thank you. 2546 01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:33,266 Acres from Matt, Matt, 66 wa one owned by Palmer's cart, Inc. To map 2547 01:47:33,900 --> 01:47:35,300 66 lot, two. 2548 01:47:36,367 --> 01:47:37,433 Owned by north country, trustee. 2549 01:47:38,667 --> 01:47:43,333 Be approved, approved with the conditions as stated by our town planner, Dave Sharples 2550 01:47:44,667 --> 01:47:45,066 Mm-hmm 2551 01:47:47,467 --> 01:47:48,166 did we get everything? 2552 01:47:48,266 --> 01:47:49,266 Mm-hmm I think so. 2553 01:47:50,100 --> 01:47:50,834 Did we get a second? 2554 01:47:52,367 --> 01:47:52,367 Second. 2555 01:47:54,900 --> 01:47:55,500 Any discussion. 2556 01:47:58,333 --> 01:47:59,667 Seek a vote those in favor. 2557 01:48:00,066 --> 01:48:00,066 Aye. 2558 01:48:00,100 --> 01:48:00,333 Aye. 2559 01:48:00,634 --> 01:48:00,867 Aye. 2560 01:48:02,133 --> 01:48:02,634 Abs extensions. 2561 01:48:03,634 --> 01:48:03,767 Posed 2562 01:48:04,367 --> 01:48:05,433 unanimously passed. 2563 01:48:06,467 --> 01:48:07,066 Congratulations. 2564 01:48:07,066 --> 01:48:07,500 Thank you. 2565 01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:09,033 Thank you for your brevity. 2566 01:48:11,667 --> 01:48:11,900 Yes. 2567 01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:12,767 And thank you for. 2568 01:48:13,533 --> 01:48:14,066 The the 2569 01:48:16,133 --> 01:48:16,634 spam attempt 2570 01:48:17,634 --> 01:48:19,033 for bringing ups important. 2571 01:48:21,133 --> 01:48:21,533 All right. 2572 01:48:21,533 --> 01:48:22,634 Moving through our agenda. 2573 01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:25,433 Master plan discussion. 2574 01:48:26,433 --> 01:48:29,100 Dave, do you want to discuss anything from the master plan? 2575 01:48:30,100 --> 01:48:30,734 O P C 2576 01:48:32,367 --> 01:48:33,100 well, we held a meeting 2577 01:48:33,667 --> 01:48:34,166 the other day. 2578 01:48:35,367 --> 01:48:36,500 I talked about a number of items. 2579 01:48:36,700 --> 01:48:38,634 One of the worth mentioning was the. 2580 01:48:39,834 --> 01:48:43,734 Was starting that time of year again, we're looking at possible zoning amendments to 2581 01:48:43,734 --> 01:48:44,066 the upcoming. 2582 01:48:45,533 --> 01:48:47,734 March election, but it's, you know, takes a few months. 2583 01:48:47,867 --> 01:48:52,000 So I asked the board members if they had anything, you know, start thinking 2584 01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:53,567 about it, but I'll also ask everyone. 2585 01:48:54,066 --> 01:48:54,166 Here. 2586 01:48:54,367 --> 01:48:55,567 If you have any. 2587 01:48:56,367 --> 01:48:57,333 Suggestions on zoning amendments, 2588 01:48:58,100 --> 01:49:00,900 zoning changes are end of the purview of the planning board. 2589 01:49:01,100 --> 01:49:04,066 So if you have any issue, any of the zoning member amendments, 2590 01:49:04,767 --> 01:49:06,266 amendments.It's good to kind of flesh those out. 2591 01:49:07,333 --> 01:49:08,667 Maybe, you know, early 2592 01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:10,900 to get them, you know, 2593 01:49:13,066 --> 01:49:15,567 probably in a form you'd want to look at, you know, maybe a November 2594 01:49:15,567 --> 01:49:16,634 hearing December. 2595 01:49:17,533 --> 01:49:19,634 And then move them forward to, to the warrant quickly. 2596 01:49:20,367 --> 01:49:21,100 Which is coming up quickly. 2597 01:49:21,467 --> 01:49:21,734 So. 2598 01:49:23,500 --> 01:49:25,066 That's all I have, I guess the other part. 2599 01:49:25,333 --> 01:49:25,667 Well, 2600 01:49:26,634 --> 01:49:29,100 you were here and I'm here and he's here. 2601 01:49:29,100 --> 01:49:29,767 Scheduling. 2602 01:49:29,767 --> 01:49:30,834 Why don't we reschedule that? 2603 01:49:30,934 --> 01:49:31,333 Good idea. 2604 01:49:32,166 --> 01:49:34,333 Do you want to do it the 22nd at eight? 2605 01:49:35,133 --> 01:49:36,834 That's the October 22nd. 2606 01:49:37,700 --> 01:49:38,000 Of the meeting. 2607 01:49:38,433 --> 01:49:39,033 I can do it. 2608 01:49:40,033 --> 01:49:40,166 David. 2609 01:49:40,667 --> 01:49:40,900 Yep. 2610 01:49:41,734 --> 01:49:42,266 Let's do that. 2611 01:49:42,266 --> 01:49:43,066 There you go. 2612 01:49:44,066 --> 01:49:45,133 I'll send an email out to Marty. 2613 01:49:45,133 --> 01:49:46,000 Do you wanna send an email out? 2614 01:49:46,233 --> 01:49:46,567 Sure. 2615 01:49:46,934 --> 01:49:47,100 Okay. 2616 01:49:47,133 --> 01:49:47,500 Yeah. 2617 01:49:47,500 --> 01:49:48,634 Include Ashley on that too. 2618 01:49:48,767 --> 01:49:49,066 Yep. 2619 01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:52,033 And 2620 01:49:55,066 --> 01:49:56,100 I guess I'll bring this up. 2621 01:49:56,266 --> 01:49:56,533 So. 2622 01:49:58,867 --> 01:49:59,300 One of our 2623 01:50:00,367 --> 01:50:02,033 full-time plaintiff board members. 2624 01:50:03,033 --> 01:50:07,000 John Gruder has been dealing with some illness, which he's fine with me talking 2625 01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:07,300 about. 2626 01:50:07,300 --> 01:50:08,100 I've talked to him. 2627 01:50:09,100 --> 01:50:10,033 And he's 2628 01:50:11,066 --> 01:50:11,066 he's 2629 01:50:13,133 --> 01:50:18,333 considering a leave of absence from the board because of that, it's nothing life-threatening 2630 01:50:18,367 --> 01:50:20,033 but it's been ongoing. 2631 01:50:20,934 --> 01:50:22,166 And it's not determined what he's dealing with. 2632 01:50:22,300 --> 01:50:22,567 So. 2633 01:50:23,433 --> 01:50:24,867 Is there an avenue for that Dave? 2634 01:50:24,867 --> 01:50:25,500 Or is it just. 2635 01:50:26,300 --> 01:50:26,533 We just 2636 01:50:27,467 --> 01:50:30,066 moved forward as we know why he is not here, we don't make a 2637 01:50:30,066 --> 01:50:30,533 big deal of it. 2638 01:50:30,533 --> 01:50:33,266 And alternate gets activated and we stay pat. 2639 01:50:34,300 --> 01:50:35,000 Is that yeah. 2640 01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:38,166 After what we do come manager, because we are trying to. 2641 01:50:39,066 --> 01:50:40,333 I yeah, the, the 2642 01:50:41,333 --> 01:50:44,033 the select board has the authority to remove members. 2643 01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:44,333 Yeah. 2644 01:50:44,500 --> 01:50:48,500 If they do, if they fall below a 60% attendance threshold. 2645 01:50:48,667 --> 01:50:49,033 Sure. 2646 01:50:49,133 --> 01:50:49,367 So. 2647 01:50:49,700 --> 01:50:50,634 We don't control that. 2648 01:50:50,667 --> 01:50:51,033 Yeah. 2649 01:50:52,033 --> 01:50:53,300 This that's up to the select board. 2650 01:50:54,533 --> 01:50:59,900 But if John continues not to show up, like that was another, I I've 2651 01:50:59,900 --> 01:51:01,533 had members do that since you've been here. 2652 01:51:01,533 --> 01:51:01,767 Yeah. 2653 01:51:02,467 --> 01:51:05,333 It's just, you know, you deal with who you have and you appoint more 2654 01:51:05,700 --> 01:51:07,000 alternates to the position. 2655 01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:07,734 Yeah, you can. 2656 01:51:07,834 --> 01:51:10,166 I don't think there's any mechanism that I'm aware of that you can like 2657 01:51:10,867 --> 01:51:14,066 Appoint an alternate as a regular member in the interim or something like that 2658 01:51:14,066 --> 01:51:14,333 Okay. 2659 01:51:14,333 --> 01:51:15,066 I know you just. 2660 01:51:16,033 --> 01:51:17,567 We have a leave of absence policy. 2661 01:51:17,867 --> 01:51:20,133 I don't know, but I'm gonna you to town manager in the morning. 2662 01:51:20,333 --> 01:51:22,767 I can't let me, yeah, let me ask and then I can. 2663 01:51:23,634 --> 01:51:25,033 Yeah, you'll be there too, right? 2664 01:51:25,066 --> 01:51:25,367 Yeah. 2665 01:51:25,667 --> 01:51:28,100 I don't think you'll have anything in your planning board rules, but we, we 2666 01:51:28,100 --> 01:51:28,367 might have. 2667 01:51:28,567 --> 01:51:28,900 Okay. 2668 01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:30,033 I mean, and I don't know. 2669 01:51:31,066 --> 01:51:34,567 But your time has the select board removed anybody because of attendance. 2670 01:51:35,433 --> 01:51:35,567 Oh, 2671 01:51:36,634 --> 01:51:38,333 I, not that I'm aware of, but yeah, me neither. 2672 01:51:38,433 --> 01:51:41,100 I think it, maybe, maybe somebody talked somebody or something. 2673 01:51:41,100 --> 01:51:43,066 There have been people coming on and off, but not a lot. 2674 01:51:43,834 --> 01:51:46,634 We haven't had no, generally we haven't had a lot of attendance issues. 2675 01:51:46,634 --> 01:51:46,900 Right. 2676 01:51:46,934 --> 01:51:51,333 And, and they usually related to health and people are, you know, understanding, understanding 2677 01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:52,033 Yes. 2678 01:51:52,033 --> 01:51:55,634 As you know, in general, we're having quorum issues and through no fault of 2679 01:51:55,634 --> 01:51:57,367 anyone volunteering, it just happens. 2680 01:51:57,500 --> 01:51:57,900 Right. 2681 01:51:58,133 --> 01:51:59,367 So we're reevaluating. 2682 01:52:00,367 --> 01:52:01,667 What we have going on and. 2683 01:52:02,667 --> 01:52:06,500 See what our options are to maybe consolidate mm-hmm and things like that 2684 01:52:06,533 --> 01:52:07,567 But yeah, we, we. 2685 01:52:08,667 --> 01:52:11,000 Way too many meetings are being canceled at the last minute. 2686 01:52:11,133 --> 01:52:13,133 So people are coming and they can't. 2687 01:52:14,100 --> 01:52:14,834 Can't actively do anything. 2688 01:52:14,834 --> 01:52:15,100 Yeah. 2689 01:52:15,133 --> 01:52:18,033 So it's being looked at, so I don't wanna say we don't. 2690 01:52:19,066 --> 01:52:19,066 Don't 2691 01:52:20,033 --> 01:52:21,634 follow our policies on that. 2692 01:52:22,467 --> 01:52:22,533 Right now. 2693 01:52:23,533 --> 01:52:23,867 Okay. 2694 01:52:24,066 --> 01:52:25,066 It's coming up soon. 2695 01:52:25,333 --> 01:52:25,667 Okay. 2696 01:52:25,867 --> 01:52:26,767 I mean, I, I. 2697 01:52:27,900 --> 01:52:29,667 Was bringing that up to try to be proactive. 2698 01:52:30,033 --> 01:52:30,100 So. 2699 01:52:31,066 --> 01:52:32,667 I think that John is. 2700 01:52:33,700 --> 01:52:34,500 Wants to continue. 2701 01:52:35,500 --> 01:52:37,033 He was, did participate. 2702 01:52:38,734 --> 01:52:39,634 In the master plan. 2703 01:52:39,634 --> 01:52:40,033 Mm-hmm . 2704 01:52:41,133 --> 01:52:41,533 Meeting yesterday. 2705 01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:47,033 And, you know, he's just dealing with some health stuff, so I'll move. 2706 01:52:47,133 --> 01:52:50,133 No, I, and this is the time to bring it up because we're going 2707 01:52:50,133 --> 01:52:51,133 to be reevaluating. 2708 01:52:51,634 --> 01:52:53,300 So we can use this as a. 2709 01:52:54,100 --> 01:52:55,266 An example of something to look at. 2710 01:52:55,367 --> 01:52:55,734 Yeah. 2711 01:52:55,867 --> 01:52:56,033 Yeah. 2712 01:52:56,033 --> 01:52:57,634 It is a good thing to understand, at least yeah. 2713 01:52:57,634 --> 01:52:59,900 Especially health issues, you know, mm-hmm , I mean, 2714 01:53:01,300 --> 01:53:02,033 all right next. 2715 01:53:02,033 --> 01:53:04,033 So the land use regulation review. 2716 01:53:05,100 --> 01:53:09,867 I think Dave kind of brought that up field modifications, none requested nor any 2717 01:53:09,900 --> 01:53:11,000 bonds of credit. 2718 01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:11,100 Okay. 2719 01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:12,900 That's it for our agenda. 2720 01:53:13,500 --> 01:53:15,033 Would you like the motion to adjourn? 2721 01:53:15,033 --> 01:53:15,066 Good. 2722 01:53:15,433 --> 01:53:16,367 I've moved to adjourn. 2723 01:53:16,467 --> 01:53:17,066 Mm-hmm . 2724 01:53:17,900 --> 01:53:18,000 So moved 2725 01:53:18,700 --> 01:53:19,166 all in favor. 2726 01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:20,066 Aye. 2727 01:53:22,066 --> 01:53:24,066 Thank you for tuning in to Exeter TV. 2728 01:53:25,300 --> 01:53:29,867 Exeter TV is the town's public and government access channels available on Comcast. 2729 01:53:30,667 --> 01:53:32,100 Channel six and 22. 2730 01:53:32,934 --> 01:53:34,000 Channel six is your channel. 2731 01:53:34,533 --> 01:53:36,033 If you have an idea for a program. 2732 01:53:37,133 --> 01:53:39,367 Want to host your own talk show or submit a film. 2733 01:53:40,166 --> 01:53:44,533 We're here to get your content on television on channel 22, we bring you 2734 01:53:44,567 --> 01:53:48,033 live and replay coverage of government meetings and other town. 2735 01:53:48,567 --> 01:53:53,066 Updates a third channel blue Hawk media is operated by SA U 16 and 2736 01:53:53,066 --> 01:53:56,533 can be found on channel eight with all your school sports event. 2737 01:53:56,934 --> 01:53:59,133 Events and meetings, you can watch Exeter TV. 2738 01:54:00,066 --> 01:54:01,834 online@exeternh.tv. 2739 01:54:03,066 --> 01:54:04,166 Apple TV and on Roku. 2740 01:54:04,367 --> 01:54:06,867 Find us on social media for extra content. 2741 01:54:07,834 --> 01:54:11,266 Subscribe to our YouTube channel and hit the bell to get notified about live 2742 01:54:11,266 --> 01:54:12,533 streams and new content.