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[6:21] Hello, everybody.
[6:21] We're gonna start this meeting.
[6:25] My name's Aaron Brown.
[6:26] I'm the vice chair.
[6:27] I'm sitting as chair this evening.
[6:30] The Exeter planning board.
[6:32] Meeting of September 10th, 2026.
[6:35] I do want to start just by taking one second to ask you to
[6:38] Take a moment of silence to recognize.
[6:41] The anniversary that's coming up for nine 11 please.
[6:43] Hmm.
[6:52] Okay, thank you for that.
[6:54] Hmm.
[6:55] Let's start with introductions to my far.
[6:57] Right.
[6:57] Please introduce yourself.
[6:58] Marty Kennedy.
[7:00] Jen Martel.
[7:02] Gwen English, Nancy Blan luck board of representative.
[7:06] Sam McLeod alternate.
[7:07] Great.
[7:09] And Sam, we're gonna make you active this evening.
[7:11] Okay.
[7:14] Why don't we start with the approval of the minutes from 8 27, 20 26.
[7:20] I don't think we have them in our packet.
[7:21] Mr. How did we not have Mr. I think here we only had this
[7:25] July 9th.
[7:26] And then the sidewalk of.
[7:29] 14th, our emails said that they weren't available when the packages together that's.
[7:34] Yeah.
[7:35] Do you want to go over the other stuff or just table at all
[7:38] We should do Lucy, probably do the ninth and the 14th.
[7:40] Okay.
[7:41] Yeah, let's do the, let's do the first one.
[7:53] Do you have any?
[7:55] I have a few.
[7:55] If you'd like me to start, go for it.
[7:58] Line 82 page two of seven.
[8:01] And this is again, the July.
[8:05] Ninth, 2026 draft meeting minutes.
[8:09] It says comes around the.
[8:11] Corner and narrows the word.
[8:13] Corner
[8:15] needs to replace power.
[8:24] On page four seven.
[8:26] Line 1 53.
[8:28] Evan Lumis from, I think it should have N H D E S.
[8:32] S added there.
[8:36] On my
[8:37] 2 38 on page six of seven.
[8:41] Silly one, but it's
[8:43] it's during public comment period.
[8:45] Ms. Blan explained why bike racks.
[8:47] Can't be, it says N and it should be on the sidewalk.
[8:59] And then the only other thing I noticed, and I don't know if we
[9:02] need to really correct it, but it's on page seven of seven.
[9:06] Line 2 58, a vote was taken.
[9:09] All word favor, the motion passed unanimously.
[9:13] At that point.
[9:14] I just didn't know if we wanted to know and we don't have to
[9:17] add it, but I'd rather say it anyway tonight.
[9:20] That we had lost John Ruger.
[9:22] Online.
[9:22] So the role call was no longer needed.
[9:25] Because we didn't have a member on zoom,
[9:28] so it doesn't need to be added.
[9:29] I just wanted to know that.
[9:30] Yeah.
[9:31] Yeah.
[9:31] And I'm all set on that.
[9:34] Anybody else?
[9:36] I have, I have two, two typos.
[9:40] One on page three.
[9:43] Line 1 21 at the end.
[9:47] This is a roll call.
[9:47] Vote was taken by Ms. Kennedy.
[9:50] That should be Mr.
[9:52] And
[9:53] similarly
[9:55] on
[9:56] page four.
[9:58] Line 1 37.
[10:00] It says
[10:02] me English.
[10:03] I think that's Ms. English.
[10:06] Huh
[10:07] no, I love it.
[10:08] That's it.
[10:08] So.
[10:11] Anybody else?
[10:15] Then I will make a motion.
[10:18] To accept the July 9th, 2026.
[10:21] Meeting minutes as amended.
[10:24] Amend all those in favor.
[10:25] Oh second.
[10:26] Did someone second?
[10:26] You did.
[10:27] Nope.
[10:27] You just did.
[10:28] Okay.
[10:28] All those in favor.
[10:29] Aye.
[10:30] Aye.
[10:31] Sustained.
[10:32] I'm gonna abstain
[10:33] against.
[10:34] Okay.
[10:35] Pushing passes.
[10:36] Passes.
[10:37] What's the other one you wanna do?
[10:39] It was the site walk July 14th.
[10:41] Yep.
[11:06] So
[11:07] anything on it.
[11:17] Anything on it.
[11:21] I have to abstain cuz I didn't make that.Okay.
[11:21] I didn't make it back in town.
[11:22] I mean the minutes are always sparse.
[11:24] I think at one point we didn't even take minutes.
[11:26] I think we just.
[11:27] Used to take attendance on the sidewalk.
[11:29] I think it came out that we have to.
[11:31] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[11:33] Think they're fine.
[11:33] I mean, fine.
[11:37] I'm fine with it.
[11:38] I make a motion to expect the minutes from the July 14th sidewalk.
[11:44] Second
[11:45] one second.
[11:46] Mm-hmm all those in favor.
[11:48] Aye.
[11:48] Aye.
[11:48] Aye.
[11:49] Abstained, abstained, abstain.
[11:52] All right.
[11:52] So we have 1, 2, 4.
[11:54] In favor two abstentions, none opposed passed.
[12:01] Okay.
[12:04] Dave, I think,
[12:05] I can't remember if you introduced yourself this evening or not.
[12:09] You did
[12:12] yeah.Oh, when I went through don't put Dave shackles.
[12:14] Yeah.
[12:14] So do you want to start, I'm gonna ask you what the next.
[12:17] Order of business.
[12:18] If we're ready to roll on that.
[12:20] Continuation of the application.
[12:22] Of Phillips Exeter academy for minor site plan review to construct three new duplexes
[12:27] for faculty housing on tax maps.
[12:30] Maps 83 dash zero one and 72 dash 99.
[12:34] The applicant is also submitting a voluntary law merger.
[12:38] Application to merge tax map, lot 72 dash 99 into tax map.
[12:44] 83 dash zero one for a single attractive land.
[12:46] Planning board case number 26 dash seven.
[12:51] Thank you.
[12:51] As you know, it's been on the agenda for quite some time now, but
[12:56] it hasn't been heard.
[12:56] It's been continued.
[12:58] Continued because the ZBA
[13:00] approved special exception, but then a rehearing was requested.
[13:04] So it kind of stayed.
[13:05] And then the rehearing, the ZBA affirmed the special granting of the special exception
[13:10] but then that was appealed.
[13:12] To the state of New Hampshire housing board of appeals.
[13:15] Appeals.
[13:15] So that is where it is now that will take months to resolve.
[13:19] And so
[13:21] I would suggest that.
[13:24] I suggest the following motion.
[13:26] As agreed by the applicant in an email dated September 3rd, 2026.
[13:31] You moved that the request of Altis engineering on behalf of Phillips Exeter academy
[13:35] from minor site plan approval will be tabled until further notice with the condition
[13:40] That abutters are re notified of the meeting when it returns to the board
[13:45] Does somebody wanna make that motion?
[13:47] Do I have a second?
[13:49] Second.
[13:50] See you a second.
[13:51] All those in favor.
[13:52] Aye.
[13:53] Aye.
[13:53] Aye.
[13:54] Opposed.
[13:56] Stain.
[13:58] I think we're all.
[13:58] I think it was unanimous.
[13:59] Yes.
[13:59] Mm-hmm.
[14:00] yes.
[14:06] So next on the agenda is the application of Jones and beach on behalf
[14:09] of.
[14:10] Green company for subdivision and conditional use permit application for a proposed 14 lot
[14:16] Residential cluster subdivision consisting of single family homes.
[14:20] Homes on the 10.1 acre parcel of the Exeter country club property.
[14:24] That currently serves as this driving range.
[14:27] Tax map 52.
[14:29] Lot
[14:31] one plaintiff board case number 26 dash 14.
[14:36] Dave, anything on that one?
[14:38] Yeah.
[14:38] The first thing you usually do, cause this is hasn't been heard before is
[14:41] you either, you know, you decide.
[14:43] You make a decision on acceptance of the plans and if they're complete for
[14:47] review purposes, I.
[14:49] I believe they are.
[14:50] So that would be up to the board to accept those and open the
[14:53] case.
[14:53] Right.
[14:54] Yeah.Well, you accept the either, you know, you vote on acceptance of the plans
[14:58] Yeah.
[15:00] Okay.Yeah.
[15:00] And we want to make a motion on that.
[15:03] Acceptance of the plan as complete for review purposes, I think is the motion
[15:08] you say.
[15:08] So since said the words.
[15:12] Second all second.
[15:13] Okay.
[15:14] Any discussion,
[15:15] all those in favor.
[15:17] Aye.
[15:17] Aye.
[15:17] Aye.
[15:17] Aye.
[15:18] Opposed.
[15:20] Stained passive unanimously shall open this case.
[15:23] I do have a unique request of the applicant.
[15:25] We had a member of the.
[15:27] Public come in with the last second and want to be heard early because
[15:30] of the.
[15:32] Kind of an emergency physical condition kind of impose on you folks for that
[15:36] That's totally familiar.
[15:36] If he's ready now to talk.
[15:37] Absolutely.
[15:38] You wanna wait till they go?
[15:39] No, no, they can go.
[15:40] You want to speak first in the public?
[15:42] Yes.
[15:43] Okay.
[15:43] That's fine.
[15:44] Thank you so much.
[15:44] Okay.
[15:46] Remind me, please.
[15:47] I will.
[15:47] All right.
[15:47] And then.
[15:49] I'll
[15:50] go ahead, Dave, can I, yeah, please.
[15:51] I'll do the intro now.
[15:52] Yeah.
[15:53] Thanks.
[15:54] As you said they're proposing a 14 lot residential cluster subdivision.
[15:58] Consisting on single family homes on a tenant about a 10 acre parcel at
[16:03] the Exeter country club.
[16:05] Property that currently serves as the driving range.
[16:08] A conditional use permit will be required.
[16:11] Required for the proposed impacts to the wetland buffer associated with the cross-country sewer
[16:15] The conservation commission will hear the application at their October.
[16:19] 13th 2026 meeting.
[16:22] The applicant also needs approval from the select board for the proposed sewer line
[16:25] to cross a town owned lot.
[16:28] The applicant appeared before the TRC on August 27th.
[16:32] And the TRC comment letter is enclosed in your packets.
[16:35] Packets, the applicant has also been reviewed by the U by Underwood engineers.
[16:40] Engineers and their comment letter dated September 1st is also enclosed for.
[16:45] For your review.
[16:46] The applicant did not have time to revise the plans in response to the
[16:50] comment letters, but requested to be placed on.
[16:53] This agenda to start the discussion on the application.
[16:56] I expect, I expect the board to hold the sidewalk.
[16:58] You generally do, and receive written comments from the conservation commission.
[17:03] Before taking any action on the
[17:05] proposal and conditional use.
[17:07] I would suggest that the board start the public hearing and at a minimum
[17:10] mask, initial questions and review the yield plan.
[17:13] That's kind of the threshold document.
[17:15] Mm-hmm .
[17:16] That you know, can determine.
[17:18] The layout of the design.
[17:20] Depending on how, how many units in the, the planning board usually.
[17:24] Reviews that and accepts it and gets a, you know, a unit account and
[17:28] then moves forward.
[17:30] And there are no waivers being requested at this time, but that may change
[17:33] depending on the responses to the comment letters.
[17:35] That's all I have.
[17:36] Thank you.
[17:38] I'm just gonna make one comment before I hand it over to the applicant
[17:43] It seems like there's a pretty good group from the audience.
[17:46] Versus some of our meetings.
[17:47] And I'm gonna assume they're probably here for this hearing.
[17:50] So.
[17:51] One of the things that we do at this hearing is we try to
[17:52] take care of public comments, the applicant initial application.
[17:57] And it's really still in the review process.
[17:59] We're gonna end up requesting
[18:01] sidewalk from the applicant at a time that's mutually agreeable to them and to
[18:05] us.
[18:05] And that is a public sidewalk.
[18:07] Walk, you are welcome to that.
[18:08] And I encourage you to go if you have interest.
[18:11] Also
[18:13] and when you're
[18:15] hearing what the applicant does, especially with the yield plan.
[18:19] It's not generally what they end up building.
[18:21] They're trying to.
[18:22] Demonstrate that they can get a certain number of units.
[18:26] By right with the zoning regulation, but the plan they ultimately submit.
[18:30] Will vary dramatically from what they will submit with their yield plan under a
[18:34] typical application.
[18:36] That's just my kind of comment to the public.
[18:38] If you're not familiar with the process.
[18:40] It is a little bit of a complicated process.
[18:43] And it can be confusing.
[18:44] And if you have questions.
[18:46] Questions.
[18:46] We encourage you to ask them at the appropriate time with that being said
[18:50] there you go.
[18:51] Thank you, Mr. Chair, page Libby with Johnson beach engineers here on behalf of
[18:55] the applicant greening company.
[18:57] Michael Green is here as well as Jenna green and John O'Neill.
[19:01] So we were here back in July a couple months ago for a design
[19:04] review.
[19:05] This plan will be very similar to what you saw.
[19:07] Then some minor changes have been made and we also.
[19:09] Updated the plans not to include all of the design details.
[19:13] Details.But again, for the record, it's map 52 lot one, which is 58 JD
[19:17] hill Ave.
[19:18] So the total parcel is close to 73 acres.
[19:21] It is the.
[19:21] Golf course currently
[19:23] the Exter country club.
[19:25] We are looking at approximately a 10 acre parcel that is at near the
[19:29] frontage of.
[19:31] The parcel, which is shown on our existing conditions plan.
[19:34] We don't show the entirety of the property because we won't be developing that
[19:38] It is accessed off the end of JD hill Ave, which is sort of
[19:41] a little dead end piece of the road that is off of.
[19:45] The intersection with Webster Ave, there's only two homes on the, that road currently
[19:50] And also there is the cart path that comes off from the country club
[19:55] clubhouse.
[19:55] So you'll see that running toward the clubhouse here.
[19:58] And then it sort of makes a curve and runs along the Western boundary
[20:02] of the property that we're looking at.
[20:04] So the property currently is the golf course is driving range.
[20:08] You can see the tree line here on the plan, which is kind of
[20:10] the large clearing that is for the current driving range.
[20:14] The
[20:15] property's pretty moderately sloped.
[20:16] It does steepen as it gets closer to the wheel, right Creek, which is
[20:20] on the Eastern boundary of the property.
[20:22] The golf course does utilize some of this space right in the corner here
[20:26] in the Northeast corner.
[20:28] Closest to the Creek
[20:29] for one of their tea boxes for one of the golf holes.
[20:32] And there is a wetland that runs through the property.
[20:35] This is very similar, actually the same as what you saw previously.
[20:39] Since our previous plan was a real wetland delineation versus just being a concept
[20:44] So that sort of divides the property almost two thirds, one third.
[20:48] Split with the majority of the land being on the Western side of that
[20:52] wetland.
[20:56] Included in our plan set is a demolition plan.
[20:58] We did show our proposed road on here, just so it kind of made
[21:01] a little bit more sense with what's.
[21:02] What's going on and we have kind of a blown up.
[21:05] Shot of that intersection at the Webster Ave, JD hill Ave intersection, cuz there's
[21:10] quite a bit going on there as you come around that corner.
[21:14] And head toward the driving range.
[21:16] The road really narrows as it comes into JD hill road.
[21:19] So we'll need to actually widen JD hill Ave in order to make that
[21:23] an adequate access for the proposed subdivision.
[21:26] And there's quite a bit of infrastructure in that area.
[21:28] There's a,
[21:29] a fire hydrant, a couple of utility poles.
[21:32] Poles some drainage that will all need to be reworked.
[21:35] So that's what this plan shows.
[21:36] And we do plan on adding a similar kind of blown up detail on
[21:40] our utility.
[21:41] Plans at the request of D P w to show that in a little
[21:44] bit more detail as well.
[21:46] The other thing that we'll have to get relocated is there's some overhead power
[21:49] that runs out actually into the golf course for kind of their maintenance building
[21:53] That's out there.
[21:54] That'll have to get reworked so that it runs along the cart path instead
[21:58] cuz right now it's running through what will be our proposed lots.
[22:02] Lots.And then a small section of the cart path will also have to get
[22:05] relocated in this area.
[22:07] So you can see the existing cart path here.
[22:10] This is the only section that we'll get impact and an only to be
[22:13] relocated to kind of connect the existing.
[22:16] To the existing, instead of running through our proposed road.
[22:20] Also within the right of way along JD hill Ave, there are some trees
[22:23] in that area, as well as some fencing.
[22:26] That we'll all have to get pushed back to the west onto the country
[22:29] club side of the right of white line.
[22:33] So this is our proposed yield plan.
[22:35] It's 14 lots again, very similar to what you saw before.
[22:38] We did make some minor tweaks.
[22:40] Tweaks to it.
[22:40] Based on some comments we received at our last meeting.
[22:43] But we do have 14 lots, which are all the, the.
[22:47] Required conventional size per the zoning within the R two district.
[22:52] And then this is our proposed cluster subdivision plan.
[22:55] So you can see the lots are all clustered together on this Western side
[22:59] of the wetland.
[23:01] Which is in this area
[23:02] and we're proposing about 50% just under, I think it's 49.9% open space.
[23:09] So we're proposing more open space than is actually required for the ordinance.
[23:13] But we do have that area available.
[23:14] So we're proposing all of that as open space.
[23:17] And the only thing I will mention is that the golf course does, will
[23:21] continue to utilize the space that is currently their tee box.
[23:24] That will be part of the.
[23:25] Open space that will be an easement to them.
[23:28] Which is consistent with the rules of what's allowed within the open space, including
[23:32] recreation.
[23:33] The proposed road is about a thousand feet long, but that includes.
[23:38] Includes about 200 feet of road that we'll need to get upgraded.
[23:41] Upgraded on the end of JD hill Ave.
[23:42] Like I mentioned before, that will have to get widened for this project.
[23:45] Just so it's.
[23:47] It's accessible for the 14 lots as well as the two existing homes on
[23:50] that road.
[23:51] And we do also propose a stop sign at the end of the road
[23:54] because currently this is almost like a three-way intersection.
[23:58] Between the two sections of JD hill, lab, and Webster Ave.
[24:02] So, and right now it's, it's just the two homes there.
[24:04] So that's served its purpose for the time being, but with an additional 14
[24:08] homes, we felt it.
[24:10] Was necessary to add an additional stop sign there.
[24:14] This is our proposed grading plan.
[24:16] So we're proposing some.
[24:18] Drainage upgrades at the intersection of JD hill Ave, as well as sloping.
[24:23] The proposed road into our site and we have several catch basins along our
[24:27] road to collect drainage.
[24:28] That actually comes down the hill from the golf course.
[24:31] And will be graded to come down the road into our catch basin so
[24:34] we can help to.
[24:36] Mitigate some of the drainage issues that are currently occurring at that intersection.
[24:40] And then we have two proposed stormwater basins.
[24:43] These are bio retention with internal storage reservoirs that provide
[24:47] stormwater.
[24:48] Peak flow attenuation as well as treatment of the runoff.
[24:52] And those catch basins will direct.
[24:54] That runoff into those areas to be treated and infiltrate and infiltrated.
[24:59] We do have some wetland buffer impacts, which are shown in the green, in
[25:02] the orange and pink on the plan.
[25:05] Which are temporary impacts only.
[25:07] These are for.
[25:08] Construction, basically, if the back burns of these ponds and those will all be
[25:12] re-vegetated as part of the project, once that is complete.
[25:16] We do have also have two small wetland crossings.
[25:18] One is located right here.
[25:20] And the second is right here, and that is for us to tie into
[25:24] sewer, which I'll speak about on the next slide.
[25:29] So this plan shows our proposed utilities.
[25:32] The water will connect to.
[25:35] The end of JD Hila and come up through the site and loop around
[25:38] There's some studies that we need to look into at the request of D
[25:41] P w that came up at TRC.
[25:43] So we'll need to look into that.
[25:45] And then we did propose a cross country sewer line.
[25:48] Like we mentioned at our last meeting
[25:50] that we'll have to be approved by the select board because there's this there's
[25:54] There's two properties down here that are actually owned by the town of Exeter
[25:57] And the closest sewer manhole is down here off at the end of Webster
[26:01] Ave, which is much, much lower.
[26:03] Than the manhole that is up at the top of Webster Ave.
[26:07] This manhole is also very shallow.
[26:09] So in order to allow us to connect to.
[26:12] Sewer with gravity flow.
[26:13] We have to come down the hill and connect to that manhole, which is
[26:16] at the end of Webster Ave.
[26:18] So that is really what the two.
[26:20] Wetland buffer or wetland.
[26:22] Impacts that we propose are shown on
[26:25] C2 or four is for those, those sewer crossings.
[26:29] Crossings.
[26:31] We have a lighting plan here that shows we just have a couple of
[26:34] proposed streetlights.
[26:34] There's actually currently one at the end of.
[26:37] JD hill, lab and Webster a intersection.
[26:40] So we're just proposing to replace that one in the same location on the
[26:43] pole.
[26:43] Once that's relocated.
[26:45] And then we proposed our cluster mailbox unit.
[26:48] Right here at the entrance to our road.
[26:49] So we have one light there as well as one at the end of
[26:53] the intersection.
[26:56] This is our landscaping plan.
[26:58] So we proposed street trees along the road on both sides as required.
[27:02] Required per the regulations.
[27:03] And then we also do have pretty substantial
[27:06] buffer planting along the.
[27:09] Country club property line, which is where those current trees are that we'll have
[27:12] to get cut down.
[27:13] So that will be to replace those in order to screen
[27:16] the country.
[27:17] Club from the two homes that are on Janie hill Ave.
[27:22] And then we just have our truck training plans.
[27:24] Plans.
[27:25] This is the roadway profile, so you can see.
[27:27] Starting here.
[27:28] The road is sloped down into our site entirely with catch basins, to pick
[27:32] up the drainage as it comes down into our site.
[27:37] And then this is that cross-country sewer.
[27:40] Profile.
[27:41] So you can see how much the.
[27:43] Grade changes between the top of the street and.
[27:47] Down at the end of Webster Ave.
[27:53] And then we just have our detail plans.
[27:55] Plans.So that's really an overview of the project
[27:57] we wanted to come before you, even though we didn't have time to revise
[28:00] our plans per the TRC meeting, which was a couple of weeks ago.
[28:04] Because we knew that when we were here for the design review, the board
[28:07] did wanna do a site walk.
[28:08] So we wanted to make sure that we came to you and.
[28:11] Possibly could get that scheduled so that we could.
[28:14] Do the sidewalk revise the plans and then come back before you and have
[28:17] everything.
[28:18] Situated so that you can ask more questions then.
[28:22] And we also do have to go before the conservation commission, like Dave mentioned
[28:40] Is that it for now?
[28:41] Yes.
[28:41] Okay.
[28:41] Yeah.
[28:42] We can answer any questions that you might have.
[28:43] Okay.
[28:45] Ms chair.
[28:45] Could I just ask one question you need to go before the select board
[28:48] of you spoken to the chair about getting on the agenda yet?
[28:51] We have not yet.
[28:52] I believe.
[28:53] That Kevin mom is working on a letter to request to be on their
[28:56] agenda.
[28:57] Okay, so you don't know when that's going out.
[28:59] I'm not sure when that, when that will be scheduled.
[29:02] Okay.
[29:03] Hopefully prior to they're kind of half probably should happen.
[29:07] Yes, sooner than later, right?
[29:08] It's one of those chicken before the egg things, because we also feel that
[29:12] the select board may not want to approve it until the planning.
[29:15] Board has it all.
[29:16] I definitely, yeah, no, I, I think you need, like, I treat it as
[29:20] like,
[29:21] forget the town owns it.
[29:22] If you were going through.
[29:24] Doug Eastman's lot, right?
[29:25] Yeah.
[29:25] Yeah.
[29:25] Yeah.
[29:25] You'd you'd need to get approval before you got approval from the planning.
[29:28] Right.
[29:29] So I, I don't want to like muddy the waters by who owns.
[29:32] Owns it right.
[29:32] It's just get approval before approval here.
[29:35] That's what I would say.
[29:38] And the, the sorry, Mr. Chair.
[29:39] No, no. So that agenda.
[29:42] Is very well planned out for the select board.
[29:45] So you really wanna get that loaded to the chair sooner than later.
[29:49] So he can give you an idea when he can fit that in.
[29:51] Okay.
[29:52] Thank you.
[29:53] Thank you.
[29:53] Thank you.
[29:54] You have any questions from the board at this time?
[29:57] I'm gonna have the audience.
[29:59] Well, I'm asking if you have questions or not.
[30:00] I have questions, but I'll wait.
[30:01] You wanna hear from them first?
[30:02] Yeah,
[30:03] I'm good.
[30:04] You good over here, you.
[30:07] I'm gonna open it up to the members of the public to speak.
[30:10] Please come to the podium.
[30:11] Yes.
[30:12] If you can.
[30:13] You want us to bring you?
[30:14] We can bring you the mic if you'd like.
[30:18] No state your name and your address, please, and speak clearly in the mic
[30:21] and speak to the board.
[30:22] Not to the applicant.
[30:24] Thank you.
[30:30] Apologize
[30:34] familiar.
[30:34] Sorry.
[30:36] Move the piece transport.
[30:38] It's a four-way intersection where you can go.
[30:41] I'm sorry, sir, sir.
[30:41] Coming off.
[30:42] Oh, sorry.
[30:44] Please introduce yourself.
[30:45] I am Greg McCarthy.
[30:46] I live at four Webster avenue.
[30:49] I live on approximate.
[30:51] One acre, which you right about there.
[30:54] That appear to have the longest.
[30:56] Shared residential property line that abuts this project.
[31:02] I have spoken previously in front of this board where I spoke conditionally in
[31:06] favor of.
[31:08] The original clubhouse replacement effort, that condition being.
[31:13] Getting some of these storm water and drainage taken care of.
[31:18] That has affected our neighborhood for decades.
[31:22] My purpose today.
[31:23] Why am I here?
[31:25] Why was this important to me?
[31:28] I want to put this project into a current and historical perspective so that
[31:32] the abutter concerns that you're gonna hear tonight.
[31:35] Can be viewed in the appropriate context.
[31:39] I'm gonna start chronologically and speak somewhat generally, but I think I'll be able
[31:43] to get my point across.
[31:46] Jumping it back in time.
[31:48] World war II ended and a bunch of houses has got built up in
[31:51] the Jada hill neighborhood.
[31:52] Mine included
[31:54] 1946.
[31:57] Excuse me.
[31:59] My understanding.
[32:01] At the time is that JD hill.
[32:03] That neighborhood Webster Ave, the golf course parking lot.
[32:07] Those were all dirt roads back in the day.
[32:10] At some point Webster avenue got paid.
[32:13] I'm guessing that was probably in the 1950s.
[32:16] Fifties in some level
[32:18] of.
[32:19] Storm water drainage or runoff drainage, whatever you want to call it was installed
[32:25] Later on.
[32:26] At some point I want to get, I, I don't have the exact date
[32:30] but the town of Exeter.
[32:32] Allowed and approved the golf course to pave their current parking lot.
[32:36] There was no evidence that I know of.
[32:40] That showed that the town.
[32:43] Improved the local infrastructure to account for.
[32:46] Or mitigate
[32:47] the effects of paving this lot when it comes to the amount of runoff
[32:52] And, and drainage issues that our neighborhood has.
[32:57] You know, as you all know,
[32:59] time has passed since then.
[33:00] And our weather has gotten worse.
[33:03] The amount of storms, their frequency and severity have gotten much worse over time
[33:08] And as a result of this combination of circumstances,
[33:13] the lay of the land has changed.
[33:15] You'll see, like my lot, for example,
[33:18] used to be somewhat level.
[33:20] It used to be a baseball field where their neighborhood kids played ball.
[33:25] At for a long time, it was a pasture where horses were raised.
[33:30] Raised
[33:31] the current conditions.
[33:32] On my lot, make none of these activities possible today.
[33:40] This storm drainage that we do have leftover from the original.
[33:44] Paving effort from way back when.
[33:47] It's honestly, almost never maintained.
[33:49] I've lost track of how many times.
[33:52] Over the years, not this year, not last year, but over all the years
[33:56] That I've cleaned up the storm range, that Doug has other neighbors as well
[34:03] Doesn't sound important now, but I'll loop back to that later on.
[34:08] In more recent times.
[34:10] Things continued in this general direction.
[34:14] When Webster Ave was repaved a couple of years ago.
[34:19] The crown of the road itself changed quite dramatically and pushed even more water
[34:25] To the Northern side of Webster avenue.
[34:28] And I doubt very much that the road, as it currently exists.
[34:32] Exists meets current D O T specifications for what?
[34:36] The crown of a road.
[34:38] Should be
[34:40] I've looked at ears worth of meeting minutes.
[34:43] Other documentation that show categorically.
[34:46] The problem that I'm discussing today.
[34:49] The stormwater runoff and drainage issues have been well understood by the town of
[34:53] Exeter for decades.
[34:55] It's not a surprise or a matter of debate.
[34:58] It's a known fact.
[35:00] As evidenced by the record itself, which sits on the town website.
[35:04] And we have a critical town employee who everyone in here knows.
[35:08] Knows who has lived through this problem.
[35:10] Decade over decade as it runs through his backyard.
[35:14] Getting closer and closer to his basement.
[35:19] Sorry.
[35:22] Recently
[35:23] over
[35:24] unanimous neighborhood opposition, the town approved.
[35:27] That housing project off of Haven lane.
[35:31] The one that sits between Haven lane and Portsmouth avenue.
[35:34] I don't know what it's called.
[35:36] I call it the Gulag,
[35:38] cuz that's what it looks like to me.
[35:40] The Haven league neighborhood was ruined.
[35:43] And the town blessed it.
[35:46] That project should speak volumes about our collective reluctance for new construction and our
[35:52] literal.
[35:53] Backyards.
[35:56] Even more recently, the town of had an opportunity to not only rectify.
[36:01] Past mistakes on JD hill, but to catch up.
[36:04] The entire neighborhood infrastructure.
[36:07] The pumping station project.
[36:09] Instead of taking advantage of the fact that the entire storm drainage system was
[36:14] dug up and exposed for the world to see where were.
[36:17] They nine feet wide and eight feet deep.
[36:20] For the length of Webster avenue.
[36:23] The town didn't do anything else except going there and do the pumping station
[36:27] project.
[36:30] Our yards were torn up.
[36:32] Invasive plant species were introduced.
[36:35] And nothing else was accomplished.
[36:38] We're left with the same drainage and runoff problems that we had before this
[36:42] project started.
[36:44] About a, what a year ago.
[36:46] And I referenced the start of the project.
[36:49] For a reason.
[36:51] It's one of the most compelling ways to ensure that the board understands how
[36:55] we are feeling right now.
[36:57] This pumping station station, project.
[37:00] Appears to still be incomplete.
[37:02] Every day we're dodging at least four pylons.
[37:06] Pylons set up in our roads
[37:07] that are protecting.
[37:10] Holes in the asphalt.
[37:12] Asphalt
[37:14] and it's dangerous.
[37:17] But I, I point this out to also point out one other thing.
[37:21] During this same timeframe of the pumping station project.
[37:25] The town manages to start and then finish.
[37:28] Completely
[37:29] roundabout on the other side of town.
[37:32] And I, you know, to me, that's a pretty good example.
[37:36] Of why we feel like our neighborhood.
[37:39] Is being neglected.
[37:41] And ignored.
[37:48] Everything I've said so far leads to this.
[37:52] Given the facts and circumstances, I've just laid out.
[37:55] Why should we trust anything coming from the developer or the town?
[38:00] For that matter
[38:01] clearly.
[38:03] And for decades now, no one has been taking our needs seriously, and I
[38:06] believe this needs to change.
[38:08] We have a town leadership and committees.
[38:12] Committees that are all about putting beautiful granite curbs.
[38:14] Curbs in certain neighborhoods while JD hill has no curbs at all.
[38:19] And the LA this lack of infrastructure.
[38:22] Is having a huge negative impact on our properties.
[38:29] The plants that have been shown here today.
[38:32] You know,
[38:34] who knows.
[38:36] Knows I,
[38:37] to me
[38:39] this looks like another opportunity for a whole lot more water to come running
[38:43] down our streets.
[38:45] And
[38:47] I, I, we all have video of what this place looks like, what our
[38:51] road looks like.
[38:52] When the rain hits, it's not pretty.
[38:56] And I understand, I totally understand the purpose.
[38:59] Of having to,
[39:00] you know, like last meeting.
[39:03] Discussed for an extensive period of time, the use of nesting boxes for someone
[39:07] else's project.
[39:08] I get that.
[39:09] I understand why that's important.
[39:12] But
[39:13] using Haven lane, as our example, at some point we have to prioritize.
[39:18] The needs and the requirements, the basic.
[39:22] Infrastructure requirements of the people who have lived here in faithfully paid.
[39:26] Exeter rising property taxes for years and years on end.
[39:32] I mean
[39:33] that that's where we're at.
[39:36] This project.
[39:38] Has forced me to learn a whole bunch of new words and phrases that
[39:40] I didn't wanna have to get into.
[39:43] Things like
[39:44] ministerial failure.
[39:46] Constitutional property protections.
[39:48] Private nuisance and trespass.
[39:51] Trespass specific negligence, reasonable use doctrine.
[39:55] Invested property interest.
[39:57] As I stated emphatically.
[39:59] The last time I spoke before this board, my goal is to be a
[40:03] partner with a town of Exeter.
[40:05] It's just getting harder and harder.
[40:08] I don't want to be in opposition.
[40:10] But
[40:12] if this project goes forward,
[40:15] something has to be done.
[40:18] To fix the problems that we have had.
[40:20] For decades
[40:22] instead of just being ignored again and being left to deal with the ramifications
[40:26] of another project.
[40:28] That impacts our neighborhood.
[40:33] So that's all I've got to say.
[40:36] The only other thing I can think of based on what we.
[40:40] Just heard is whether or not the property site visit.
[40:44] The site walk.
[40:45] Is that what we called it?
[40:47] Whether or not that sidewalk was going to.
[40:50] Include an actual site walk of Webster avenue.
[40:53] Itself.
[40:55] I, I would strongly
[40:58] recommend that that happens so that you can see.
[41:01] The downstream impact from projects at the top of the hill, before we start
[41:05] cutting down trees and widening roads and all that other stuff.
[41:09] We can show you firsthand.
[41:12] What it looks like when we don't have enough infrastructure in place.
[41:16] To handle basic neighborhood requirements.
[41:20] And that's all I've got.
[41:20] Thanks for your time.
[41:21] I appreciate it.
[41:23] Thank you.
[41:30] I think it will.
[41:32] Include Webster Ave considering the access.
[41:33] We'll probably end a parking.
[41:35] I would think at the clubhouse.
[41:37] Generally
[41:39] and walking over.
[41:40] When we do the site walk
[41:43] that'll the site walk.
[41:45] Sidewalk time.Indeed.
[41:45] If you can't make it to the end of the meeting will be on
[41:49] the website once we have it established, but it will be determined tonight.
[41:52] Anybody else in the public wanna speak?
[41:57] Again, please introduce yourself and your address.
[42:01] My name is Gail Morse and I live at 73 JD hill avenue.
[42:06] And I was living there when they put in.
[42:10] The paved
[42:11] driveway at the country club and believe me.
[42:14] Oftentimes, they put it in an August day.
[42:19] In the nineties, I'd have to.
[42:21] Find out
[42:22] exactly.
[42:24] But it was put in, in the nineties.
[42:26] Nineties.And when it rains.
[42:28] Rains.It jumps right over the, the storm drain.
[42:32] It, it comes down so fast and if they do a sidewalk, if they
[42:36] ever do.
[42:38] I would suggest they come on a rainy day.
[42:42] Because that's what you're gonna see.
[42:44] You'll see it.
[42:45] I'm lucky I don't get water in my basement.
[42:49] But I'm the top of the hill.
[42:52] But I know my neighbors.
[42:55] Neighbors have been
[42:56] affected by this.
[43:00] It's disappointing to see.
[43:03] 14 houses.
[43:04] Why 14?
[43:05] Why couldn't it be five?
[43:08] You know, we, I
[43:11] I don't know what year we put the new water treatment plant in.
[43:16] But we've all been paying higher.
[43:18] It went up probably around 2015.
[43:22] If I'm not mistaken.
[43:24] Our water bills.
[43:25] And now after that meeting that we had the first time.
[43:29] In back in July on the 14 houses.
[43:33] They said, oh, we don't longer have to be on.
[43:37] A number four.
[43:39] Water ban.
[43:41] What a coincidence.
[43:42] I think.
[43:45] I'm just disappointed that that they're ruining.
[43:49] That neighborhood, our neighborhood.
[43:52] I've lived there
[43:53] a number of years.
[43:55] And it's been nice.
[43:57] Quiet
[43:58] seeing children.
[44:00] On the
[44:01] sledding across the street.
[44:02] Let me ask you.
[44:04] Are the children still gonna be able to go sledding?
[44:08] From the hill on the country club.
[44:11] Will they still be allowed?
[44:14] To go sledding.
[44:16] When this new development happens, if it does happen.
[44:21] Because if it does
[44:23] oftentimes I've observed many children.
[44:27] Ending up
[44:28] in the practice field.
[44:30] So keep that in mind, keep our children.
[44:33] Safe.
[44:38] I think someone in the back.
[44:46] My name is Janet Mirati.
[44:49] I live at my husband and I live at 79 JD hill a.
[44:53] Which would be the last house when they mentioned those two houses.
[44:57] On the end of the street.
[45:00] I'm the last house.
[45:03] And
[45:05] I wanna express my concerns about the proposed development at the end of our
[45:09] dead end.
[45:09] And it is a dead end street.
[45:12] It's not an.
[45:13] Empty lot somewhere.
[45:14] It's a dead end street.
[45:17] A pair, a dirt path, and then we're driving range.
[45:22] And before any approvals are granted, I asked the town to require a clear
[45:27] road widening plan.
[45:29] Adequate protection from the golf course for us.
[45:33] A drainage review wildlife protection in a traffic study that addresses pedestrian safety.
[45:39] We're very walkable.
[45:41] Community.
[45:43] They have stated that the road would need to be widened, but.
[45:47] They say, remove a few trees.
[45:51] These trees are mature.
[45:53] In fact, I believe some are registered with the conservation commission.
[45:56] This is what they, the trees.
[45:58] That they have to remove.
[46:01] Which will also increase the drainage.
[46:04] Issues.
[46:07] And
[46:09] in addition to
[46:11] controlling drainage and erosion.
[46:14] Because it's a hill,
[46:16] the golf course comes down a hill that we are across the street from
[46:20] a hill.
[46:24] It's an important buffer.
[46:26] Between our homes and the golf course.
[46:29] They have a safety net, which is really not adequate.
[46:33] We get golf ball.
[46:33] We all get golf balls.
[46:36] Balls and this would be gone.
[46:38] We would have no buffer.
[46:40] Which means we would have no protection.
[46:44] And they do mention
[46:46] I did not, I didn't have a chance to.
[46:50] Really examine these plans because they were just posted on Tuesday afternoon.
[46:57] I know they mentioned some kind of a vegetation buffer.
[47:01] Between Webster a
[47:04] and
[47:04] the, this development.
[47:07] But I don't see really anything being worked on.
[47:11] For the buffer across the street from us.
[47:16] The other thing
[47:18] the neighborhood is highly walkable.
[47:22] Regularly used by dog walkers.
[47:25] Walkers families, children.
[47:27] Elderly people.
[47:30] And
[47:31] I think that if this were to go through, we would need the sidewalk
[47:36] Extended
[47:37] when the Gulf
[47:39] course was going to have their new clubhouse.
[47:42] I believe.
[47:44] One of the stipulations was that the sidewalk.
[47:48] Be extended from where it ends at
[47:51] Hayes trailer park.
[47:54] I think that that would have to happen.
[47:56] In order to protect pedestrians.
[47:59] Pedestrians and
[48:02] the other thing too.
[48:02] And I, I don't think this has been mentioned.
[48:07] This development will be surrounded by conservation land.
[48:12] In fact
[48:13] it in, at the end of this dirt path, that pot of which will
[48:17] become the erode.
[48:19] Road.
[48:19] There's the Irvine.
[48:21] Conservation area, which is a town owned conservation area.
[48:27] Those birds and animals.
[48:30] What will be the impact on them?
[48:33] Because right now it's a golf course and there's a large wooded area on
[48:38] the other side of the driving range.
[48:39] And I have no idea how much of that.
[48:41] There that there will be removing, but I know some will be removed.
[48:45] Removed.
[48:46] And I just wanna end by saying I've lived here.
[48:50] For almost 30 years, I've raised my children here.
[48:55] I'm concerned about that this continued development.
[48:59] Particularly when variances in special considerations are requested, can overlook the safety, affordability and
[49:06] quality of life.
[49:07] Concerns of established neighborhoods.
[49:10] Neighborhoods.
[49:11] And I know that the town master.
[49:13] Plan
[49:15] focuses on
[49:17] affordable housing and maintaining neighborhood character.
[49:21] This does neither of those things.
[49:23] Thank you.
[49:40] Hi everyone.
[49:41] My name is Rebecca Zollner and I live at 71 JD hill Ave.
[49:45] And I'm also here to speak on behalf of
[49:48] Jennifer.
[49:48] Indiana Macon of 67.
[49:51] And Maria and John George of 77 Jie hill Ave.
[49:55] They couldn't be here tonight because frankly, this meeting is at a tricky time
[49:58] for parents,
[49:59] you know, it's time of day for dinner and homework and bedtime, but.
[50:03] That's life on our street and that's exactly why I am here.
[50:07] This is a family neighborhood.
[50:08] It always has been, as you know, our neighbors have attested to tonight.
[50:12] And we have chosen the street deliberately because it is quiet and safe in
[50:15] the kind of place where our kids can be kits.
[50:18] Kits and we're here tonight.
[50:19] I'm here tonight asking the board to help us protect that.
[50:23] I wanna call out something very specifically, because I do think it gets a
[50:26] little bit lost in the paperwork.
[50:27] We've talked about this dead end a lot.
[50:30] But this dead end section of the road is the only safe and flat
[50:33] place where our kids to play in this neighborhood.
[50:37] Not one of a few options.
[50:38] It truly is the only option.
[50:40] And in summer evenings, you'll find that dead end is full of kids learning
[50:43] how to ride.
[50:44] Their bikes and kicking balls.
[50:46] And.
[50:47] Playing outside with each other while we, as parents can just watch them enjoy
[50:50] being outside in the summer.
[50:52] It's really the heart of our neighborhood, where friendships are formed and our community
[50:56] really happens.
[50:59] The surrounding streets carry
[51:01] constant traffic from the golf course.
[51:04] It's constant and this traffic.
[51:08] Of the golf course and its members
[51:09] who are also very rarely mindful of the fact that there are kids at
[51:13] play in this neighborhood.
[51:15] Families have learned to keep our kids away from that side of the street
[51:18] And it really is only safe to go up this way.
[51:22] So that's where all our kids are going to play.
[51:23] And like I said, learning to ride their bikes and playing outside, playing street
[51:26] hockey, and just again, being outside and enjoying the.
[51:29] Kids because that's
[51:32] that's where it's safe.
[51:33] And if this development goes through that ends.
[51:36] Ends permanently, really for us.
[51:39] Like I said, this is we've all said numerous times tonight.
[51:42] This is a single entry narrow road and it already carries a lot of
[51:46] traffic.
[51:48] They're a golf club members and employees who use it daily and often at
[51:51] speeds.
[51:51] And without the awareness, you would appreciate from anyone who, where kids.
[51:56] Are playing or families are living.
[51:58] And this develop is not going on.
[52:00] Vacantly and you are replacing or driving range.
[52:02] The golf traffic doesn't go anywhere.
[52:04] This is just more traffic and.
[52:06] More cars, interrupting where our kids get to play.
[52:10] And we would really ask that an independent traffic study be completed.
[52:14] Before any, anything moves forward?
[52:18] The drainage we, our, our neighborhood will talk your ear off about drainage.
[52:21] It's a problem.
[52:22] I won't go into more detail about the drainage.
[52:26] But again, we are really asking.
[52:28] For an independent drainage or stormwater study, kind of whatever the, the correct term
[52:32] for that would be to be.
[52:34] Completed.
[52:35] And then for any re remediation needed to be paid for by the developer
[52:38] we don't feel that this should really come back and affect us as families
[52:41] who are already living here.
[52:44] You know, as Gail mentioned, we've been living under a water restriction for the
[52:47] better part of a year.
[52:48] At this point, I believe.
[52:49] And every family on the street we've cut back.
[52:52] Look at our gardens, they're dead and sad.
[52:55] But approving 14 additional homes in the middle of this is just gonna add
[52:59] more permanent demand to the water supply that it appears already in crisis.
[53:04] So my neighbors trusted me to be here tonight because they couldn't be because
[53:08] Knowing that without somebody standing up for us, the interest of this neighborhood can
[53:12] get overlooked in a process like this.
[53:14] We're not just neighbors in the loose sense of the word.
[53:16] We are a community.
[53:18] We celebrate holidays together.
[53:20] We eat dinner outside together in the summer.
[53:21] We catch and get to watch each other's children grow up.
[53:25] This didn't happen by chance.
[53:26] This didn't happen by accident.
[53:28] This happens because this is a type of street where we are, that this
[53:31] can happen.
[53:33] We don't
[53:34] are not asking the board to stop all development.
[53:36] That's obviously not reasonable.
[53:38] We are asking you to think carefully about what gets lost.
[53:41] When you change the character of a neighborhood like ours.
[53:44] Ours and hoping that you would require an independent, independent traffic drainage and water
[53:48] studies before any approval gets granted.
[53:52] The big kind of point here is our kids play at that one dead
[53:54] end in our families gather there.
[53:56] Please help us protect it.
[53:58] Thank you.
[53:59] Thank you.
[54:19] Sherman Chester three Webster avenue.
[54:22] I grew up on Webster avenue.
[54:25] And have been a neighbor of, of the country club for 71 years.
[54:31] I see the changes in neighborhoods around Webster avenue.
[54:35] And this proposed development.
[54:37] Is unnecessary and detrimental to the neighborhood.
[54:41] The town and the country club.
[54:43] Exeter country club.
[54:46] Coach bill Belichick is what it is.
[54:49] Recreational nine hole golf course.
[54:52] Now the original clubhouse was destroyed by a tornado in 1953.
[54:57] The current clubhouse has been on site and remodeled over the years and serves
[55:00] its purpose.
[55:01] For nine months of the year.
[55:03] The ground crews, they've done a lot to improve the fairways and greens over
[55:06] the recent years, but it is not.
[55:09] And never will be in the same league as Portsmouth Wentworth, Ana peas and
[55:13] on and on and on.
[55:15] Years ago, my dad
[55:17] and I were both members.
[55:18] He aged out and I decided just taking a good walk was less frustrating
[55:24] Change inevitable, but let's keep it constructive and not destructive.
[55:29] Developers, they're ruining Exeter.
[55:31] They're putting an unnecessary burden on the infrastructure and the traffic flow here in
[55:35] the town.
[55:37] The two main arteries into downtown Exeter.
[55:38] They're being clogged by the squall of poorly thought out development.
[55:42] And please no one on the various boards here in the town of Exeter
[55:46] wants to use the phrase, affordable housing or workforce housing, because that is a
[55:50] Fallacy.
[55:52] I'd like to see the board members representing Exeter show some restraint in there
[55:55] to decision making.
[55:57] Realizing the legacy that they're leaving for future generations.
[56:01] I, I also realize that native Exeter residents are becoming extinct.
[56:05] And some of our children can't afford to live and grow their families right
[56:09] here in the town.
[56:09] They grew up in and keep that process going.
[56:13] Progress.
[56:14] No.
[56:15] Keeping the charm in historical significance of Exeter.
[56:18] Questionable.
[56:19] I asked the board's representing Exeter to put a two letter word in their
[56:23] decision making vocabulary.
[56:24] And that word is no.
[56:26] And if you wanna be polite, you can add, sorry.
[56:28] In front of it.
[56:29] The developers are ruining Exeter's charm and heritage, and they should be encouraged to
[56:33] just pack up their tents and move their circus to another area and put
[56:36] their act on there.
[56:38] And I hope this board is gonna see this project as ill-advised the Exeter
[56:41] country club should be encouraged to come up with an alternative way to get
[56:44] themselves an upgraded club.
[56:46] Clubhouse the loss of property, including theirs is forever.
[56:50] And the ramifications to the town's infrastructure is permanent.
[56:55] The new clubhouse, well, commercial loan GoFundMe, maybe a deep pocket member and put
[56:59] a plaque on it with their name on it.
[57:00] Joe and Mary dokes.
[57:02] Dokes.I just hope they haven't cashed their check.
[57:05] And compromise their existence.
[57:07] Thank you.
[57:35] Good evening.
[57:36] My name is Doreen Chester and I reside at three Webster Ave.
[57:41] My home faces the Exeter country club, not in a butter, but faces.
[57:45] Faces and the proposed development would directly affect my quality of life and diminish
[57:50] the peaceful character of our close-knit neighborhood.
[57:54] I'm here this evening to state my objections to the pro proposal to construct
[57:59] 14 new single.
[58:00] Family homes on the current driving range.
[58:03] At extra country club,
[58:04] Webster Ave is a dead end road.
[58:07] And the road leading to the country club from JD hill and Webster avenues
[58:10] is very narrow.
[58:12] As somebody mentions, it's a trail and that's really all it is on the
[58:15] dirt road.
[58:16] To the country club, there is insufficient room for vehicles to pass safely.
[58:21] And there are mature trees, as someone mentioned and registered.
[58:25] Of which they would have to be removed.
[58:27] And I object to that.
[58:29] Exeter was recognized as part of tree, city USA.
[58:32] In 2019,
[58:34] I don't believe that they could hold that.
[58:37] Today
[58:38] trees.
[58:39] Provide privacy neighborhood character, and a sense of peace.
[58:43] They also serve essential environmental functions.
[58:47] Functions cleaning out air water, providing habits, habitat for wildlife.
[58:51] Connecting communities and supporting public health and wellbeing.
[58:55] For these reasons I object to further trees being removed from the neighborhood.
[59:00] I don't wanna look at the new houses.
[59:02] I would like to see the trees as they are now and provide the
[59:05] privacy that my neighbors across the street are used to.
[59:08] We already have seen the impact of extensive tree removal on Haven lane.
[59:14] Where green and company cleared out.
[59:15] Most of the trees.
[59:17] To build the townhomes as a result.
[59:19] Older homes on Haven lane.
[59:21] Now have an unobstructed view.
[59:24] Of Portsmouth avenue with increased exposure to traffic, noise and pollution.
[59:29] These new homes also significantly taller than existing homes.
[59:33] Homes and do not reflect the scale or character of the surrounding neighborhood.
[59:38] I'd like to know what the town will do to accommodate all the new
[59:42] traffic on Portsmouth avenue and the JD hill avenue.
[59:46] I've already,
[59:47] it's already unpleasant to drive on Portsmouth avenue at different times of the day
[59:51] And the new homes aren't even sold.
[59:54] I've not heard anything about.
[59:56] Upgrades to infrastructure on Portsmouth avenue with all the new building going on, both
[1:00:01] sides.
[1:00:03] I urge the planning board to evaluate.
[1:00:06] This proposal and others carefully.
[1:00:09] With particular attention to wetlands, mature trees.
[1:00:13] Traffic neighborhood scale.
[1:00:16] Children.
[1:00:17] And whether this level of development is appropriate for a small neighborhood, such as
[1:00:21] JD hill Ave.
[1:00:23] He'll live and Webster Ave.
[1:00:25] It is appropriate.
[1:00:26] For the board to say no, sometimes.
[1:00:29] Things that would create overcrowded development or buildings that do not fit Exodus character
[1:00:35] Frankly.
[1:00:36] I'd like to see.
[1:00:37] Town boards focus on really affordable housing.
[1:00:42] Instead of more multi-million dollar homes.
[1:00:44] Homes in Exeter.
[1:00:46] I respectfully request.
[1:00:48] That the planning board require any new homes to be.
[1:00:51] Compatible with existing homes, neighborhood context.
[1:00:55] Without careful oversight, exit or risks, losing the charm and character that makes it
[1:01:00] special.
[1:01:01] Thank you.
[1:01:10] Anyone else from the public like to speak.
[1:01:16] Okay.
[1:01:17] There will be additional times during this case for the public to speak.
[1:01:20] So, and I, I appreciate the respect.
[1:01:22] Everybody showed in their comments.
[1:01:24] Comments
[1:01:25] on the board.
[1:01:26] It's good to get input from the neighborhood.
[1:01:29] Everyone on this board has been here for at least a little while.
[1:01:32] Some many years.
[1:01:36] I, if you have seen any of our hearings, I think you know that
[1:01:38] I am right now surrounded by people that care a lot about trees up
[1:01:41] at this board.
[1:01:43] so.
[1:01:44] I think they care a lot.
[1:01:48] You know, I think we all share your.
[1:01:50] Concerns with any development that comes in front of us?
[1:01:52] One of the things that we have as a board have to deal with
[1:01:55] is.
[1:01:56] The right of the applicant.
[1:01:59] And the underlying landowner.
[1:02:01] And balancing those rights.
[1:02:04] Rights with our process.
[1:02:06] So I respect and appreciate you all.
[1:02:09] Understanding that at some level.
[1:02:11] And it, I think it can be confusing at times.
[1:02:14] There, if, if there's drainage issues on JD hill that are there today.
[1:02:18] You know, that's a, that's really an Exeter, a town of Exeter issue.
[1:02:22] A public works issue.
[1:02:24] Existing public works issue.
[1:02:26] It's not a.
[1:02:27] Golf course of Exeter Exeter golf course issue necessarily.
[1:02:32] They can't.
[1:02:33] Can't
[1:02:34] increase.
[1:02:36] Issues for the neighborhood.
[1:02:38] That's part of the regulation,
[1:02:39] but we don't have the right to make them fix.
[1:02:43] Drainage
[1:02:44] issues that are already.
[1:02:47] Existing.
[1:02:50] Can I respond to that?
[1:02:51] No, not right now.
[1:02:52] Okay.
[1:02:54] I'm trying to give you guys some perspective.
[1:02:56] You can not want to hear it.
[1:02:58] And that's okay.
[1:03:00] But I just wanna try to give you some perspective as to what we
[1:03:03] are here to do.
[1:03:04] Some of the comments that you brought up are I know very valid cuz
[1:03:08] I have friends in your neighborhood.
[1:03:11] This is not necessarily the format for it.
[1:03:13] It's good for us, you to bring it up, but for us to, I
[1:03:16] can't do anything and make public works.
[1:03:19] Take care of your, your neighborhood.
[1:03:21] That's just, we can only affect what is in front of us, which is
[1:03:24] an application with a specific property that happens to fall in your neighborhood, which
[1:03:28] is probably why you're here.
[1:03:30] And, you know, we all due respect.
[1:03:32] It's just, that's the challenges that we face.
[1:03:35] And we try to work with the community.
[1:03:36] We're part of your community.
[1:03:38] I can tell you if a neighborhood went in next to me and I'd
[1:03:42] lived somewhere for 70 plus years, without that.
[1:03:44] I wouldn't be too excited about it.
[1:03:46] I'm just being honest.
[1:03:48] But we have to balance that, you know what I mean?
[1:03:50] So,
[1:03:51] anyway,
[1:03:52] that being said, there's a developer.
[1:03:53] Want to make any more comments at this time?
[1:03:56] Yeah, I can actually I'll respond just at least to the drainage issue.
[1:04:05] Sure because it was something that we heard about or very early on.Yeah.
[1:04:05] We met with D P w.
[1:04:07] You know, before we even came to you for the design review.
[1:04:10] And it was something we heard about.
[1:04:11] They're aware that there are drainage issues out there.
[1:04:15] So that was something we kept in mind heavily when we did our drainage
[1:04:18] design.
[1:04:18] And not only is it something we kept in mind, but it's something we're
[1:04:21] required to do.
[1:04:23] So when we're looking at the drainage, we're actually looking at the entire watershed
[1:04:26] of what affects our property.
[1:04:29] So we looked at not only.
[1:04:31] I'm not sure what happened there.
[1:04:33] We looked at not only what's occurring right here, but we looked at the
[1:04:36] drainage.
[1:04:37] That's coming onto us from this side.
[1:04:40] And from here coming onto JD hill Ave.
[1:04:42] So, and obviously as we heard from the neighbors and as we know.
[1:04:46] From our study, that's quite a bit of runoff.
[1:04:49] So that's why, when we did our drainage design, we were able to.
[1:04:52] Adjust the drainage in this area.
[1:04:55] And also design it so that we're collecting the drainage.
[1:04:57] That's coming down this hill.
[1:05:00] Some of what's coming toward us from JD hill Ave this way and bringing
[1:05:03] it all into our drainage system to hopefully address some of those issues.
[1:05:08] Issues that are occurring today, even though it's not being caused by our development
[1:05:12] And in addition to that, we're also required to make sure that we are
[1:05:15] collect.
[1:05:16] Collecting and treating and managing the peak flow from our development so that it's
[1:05:21] not exacerbating the current problem.
[1:05:24] You wanna say that one again, please?
[1:05:25] We're required to collect.
[1:05:27] And treat not only for water quality.
[1:05:31] But control the runoff from our development.
[1:05:33] So that's what we run in our calculations.
[1:05:36] For very large storm events up to even a hundred year storm event.
[1:05:40] Thank you.
[1:05:41] So
[1:05:42] a lot of what we're talking about here.
[1:05:44] And a lot of what was brought up by the neighborhood are things that
[1:05:46] generally will happen, which is, you know, traffic flow.
[1:05:50] Stormwater drainage.
[1:05:53] Impact on the neighborhood.
[1:05:55] One of the, one of the real challenges that.
[1:05:58] We face in this community and every community is the housing.
[1:06:03] Shortage.
[1:06:05] You know,
[1:06:06] I'm in the industry.
[1:06:08] Affordable housing.
[1:06:10] It's not a lot of affordable housing in accident, period.
[1:06:12] I mean, that's just reality.
[1:06:14] I have three young boys and good luck.
[1:06:17] Right now.
[1:06:17] I mean, it's, it's really sad, but it's what we all face.
[1:06:21] The other challenge that really affordable housing comes down to for everybody here is
[1:06:25] density issue.
[1:06:26] .
[1:06:27] You know,
[1:06:29] if you want affordable house and you get a lot, you gotta allow apartments
[1:06:32] Bottom line.
[1:06:34] Right.
[1:06:34] And, and who wants those?
[1:06:35] Would you guys rather see 200 apartments right there because that's affordable housing.
[1:06:40] Well, then you're, it is a unique.
[1:06:42] As you could be.
[1:06:43] And I appreciate that.
[1:06:45] But it's, you know, it's a, it's a real, it truly is a real
[1:06:48] challenge.
[1:06:50] And that is one of the big issues,
[1:06:52] cuz you know,
[1:06:53] 200
[1:06:55] residents bringing cars in and out of that site would be different than 14
[1:06:58] households.
[1:07:00] Households, but, you know, will it be affordable?
[1:07:01] I mean, cost of construction these days, if anybody's done a renovation lately, it's
[1:07:06] really almost double every time.
[1:07:08] You try to do something it's twice what you think it's gonna be.
[1:07:10] So what makes it very difficult for anything to get built new and be
[1:07:15] Affordable.
[1:07:15] That's just economics.
[1:07:17] Economics.That's not any particular developer's issue or anything else.
[1:07:22] But it is a true community challenge.
[1:07:25] So
[1:07:26] probably makes sense to figure out a site walk.
[1:07:29] Sidewalk time and date and we'll continue.
[1:07:30] I just make a comment, please for Mr. Yeah.
[1:07:33] Acting chair.
[1:07:34] So just some of the comments were beyond.
[1:07:37] What is kind of what the planning board will, will look at.
[1:07:41] I encourage you to do two things.
[1:07:43] Come to this luck board meetings, public comment.
[1:07:46] Is typically right at the very beginning of those meetings, we have one coming
[1:07:50] up on Monday night.
[1:07:51] I know that might be a little soon.
[1:07:53] For for you to, but please, I mean, and you can reach out to
[1:07:58] the tell manager who can direct you.
[1:08:01] There are so many things I can respond to, but I'm not gonna do
[1:08:03] it here, but there's a lot of stuff you need to understand.
[1:08:06] You need to follow like budget process and stuff.
[1:08:09] But please reach
[1:08:10] good because the CIP P.
[1:08:12] Portsmouth AV is in there.
[1:08:15] But could you please reach out to the town manager who will then,
[1:08:18] and he responded back.
[1:08:20] Yes.
[1:08:21] And
[1:08:22] gave you to D P w.
[1:08:24] Yep.
[1:08:24] And they first came out.
[1:08:26] Good then, then that's all about all we can do.
[1:08:28] They're gonna tell you what's what and okay.
[1:08:30] Thank you.
[1:08:31] I just wanted to, but literally.
[1:08:34] You know, I understand.
[1:08:36] I grew up in Exeter.
[1:08:38] I grew up playing in streets.
[1:08:39] That's just kind of.
[1:08:41] Not
[1:08:43] kind of what
[1:08:44] is safe anymore these days, but.
[1:08:47] That again, come to the select board.
[1:08:50] We will hear you.
[1:08:51] We don't have a back and forth during public comment.
[1:08:54] But we'll hear you.
[1:08:55] And.
[1:08:56] Maybe direct you to the departments that you need to have a conversation with
[1:09:00] to understand process.
[1:09:02] Thank you.
[1:09:05] Anybody else on the board wanna make a comment at this time?
[1:09:08] I just have a question.
[1:09:08] Yeah, if that's okay.
[1:09:10] About the yield plan,
[1:09:12] I just wanna clarify.
[1:09:14] Because we don't look at.
[1:09:16] These that often.
[1:09:17] And I, I just wanna make sure I'm understanding it properly.
[1:09:21] The lot, one
[1:09:24] looks like it has
[1:09:27] a 20 foot wide utility easement.
[1:09:29] Paige.
[1:09:29] Can you point to lot one?
[1:09:30] Yes, please.
[1:09:31] Thank you.
[1:09:33] So that hatched area is a 20 foot wide utility easement.
[1:09:41] So I'm assuming you can't technically build a house on that easement or isthat.
[1:09:41] Yeah.
[1:09:42] So it's the same as what you'll see on our.
[1:09:46] Cluster subdivision plan.
[1:09:46] So that is currently where the overhead power runs out to.
[1:09:51] The maintenance building that they have out there.
[1:09:54] So that utility line will actually be moved as part of the project.
[1:09:57] So that same utility easement would affect our current lot.
[1:10:01] I can't even.
[1:10:02] See that from here.
[1:10:02] Look, I guess that's lot 14 one.
[1:10:06] Is the proposal to actually get that easement.
[1:10:10] Adjusted as well.
[1:10:11] Yes.
[1:10:14] Yes.
[1:10:14] Yeah.
[1:10:15] The utility line will run up the.
[1:10:18] It's the dog stuff.
[1:10:19] The utility line.
[1:10:21] Is it this top one, the top one?
[1:10:22] Yep.
[1:10:24] This utility line will actually run down the road.
[1:10:28] And up that sideline.
[1:10:30] Back to that and reconnect to the power line.
[1:10:33] So that entire easement will be gone.
[1:10:36] Okay.
[1:10:36] So would you mind going to the yield plan?
[1:10:39] I think this is the subdivision plan.
[1:10:40] Thank you.
[1:10:41] So the lot I was concerned about is lot one.
[1:10:44] Yes.
[1:10:44] Just because it looks like once you get the setbacks in there and everything
[1:10:47] there's really almost no.
[1:10:49] Room to build a house.
[1:10:50] And I'm wondering what the, if, if that's really a viable lot as we're
[1:10:54] looking at it it's so once the easement wasn't moved.
[1:10:57] Removed then it would be, it would be with, with the easement there.
[1:10:59] Of course it wouldn't.
[1:11:00] But with, because we're planning on removing it in either case.
[1:11:04] We we see that as a viable lot.
[1:11:07] And does the, well, this might be a Dave Sharpe's question, but does the
[1:11:10] planning part have any, do we need to see the easement relocation?
[1:11:15] Is that like part of the subdivision?
[1:11:16] Oh yeah.
[1:11:16] Okay.
[1:11:17] That's what I thought.
[1:11:17] All right.
[1:11:18] Yeah, it would.
[1:11:19] Which really should be part of the yield plan consideration, frankly.
[1:11:23] Right?
[1:11:23] Because this is, that is definitely critical to that law.
[1:11:29] The other
[1:11:31] question I had was.
[1:11:33] Really for Paige is
[1:11:36] can you describe again, the proposed easement to benefit Exeter country club.
[1:11:42] Yes.
[1:11:42] So if you look at the existing conditions plan, well, it's actually pretty hard
[1:11:46] to see cuz there's quite a few lines on here.
[1:11:48] Is that, is that the third?
[1:11:50] Hole.
[1:11:50] Yes.
[1:11:51] Yep.
[1:11:52] So you'll see the cart path comes up.
[1:11:53] Yeah.
[1:11:54] There's kind of this looped situation happening.
[1:11:57] With the cart path and then the tee box is up in this area
[1:12:02] So they plan to keep that just exactly as it is within the open
[1:12:05] space.
[1:12:05] And that's why on our easement plan, we show that proposed easement, which encompasses
[1:12:10] The cart paths as well as that tee box.
[1:12:13] All right.
[1:12:14] So that's it.
[1:12:16] Definitely creative way.
[1:12:18] To still accommodate the golf course.
[1:12:23] And included in the yield plan.
[1:12:24] I, I I'd be interested in seeing calculations without that, cuz it.
[1:12:29] It just seems a little mucky to me.
[1:12:33] With this land being transferred.
[1:12:35] Yeah.
[1:12:36] So I think on, I mean, we, we definitely could show it on the
[1:12:38] yield plan.
[1:12:39] Yeah.
[1:12:39] Because it's basically right in this area.
[1:12:42] So
[1:12:43] the developable area on, I think that's lot seven.
[1:12:46] Is actually up in this area.
[1:12:47] Mm-hmm so we don't see that as being, you know, taking away from
[1:12:51] that long.
[1:12:51] How does it affect your necessary.
[1:12:54] Conservation land total, the open space calculations.
[1:12:57] Yeah.
[1:12:58] It's do you know,
[1:12:59] I can't see that far.
[1:13:00] So let me see what the square footage is of it.
[1:13:02] And I'm putting you on the spot.
[1:13:03] You don't need to come up with that tonight.
[1:13:04] It's not until end of the end of the hearing or.
[1:13:06] Anything,
[1:13:07] but that's something that I would want to see.
[1:13:09] Okay.
[1:13:09] Yeah, we can, we can run that calculation.
[1:13:11] That'd be great.
[1:13:11] It's just about an acre of space.
[1:13:13] Okay.
[1:13:15] And there's no consideration for just doing a lot line adjustment on that.
[1:13:19] We were including it because it's part of the 10 acres that is currently
[1:13:24] Outside of the conservation
[1:13:25] land.
[1:13:27] That they plant to purchase.
[1:13:28] So that's why we didn't do it that way.
[1:13:30] It just seems a little bit, I'm trying to look down the road.
[1:13:34] These are built, whatever gets built.
[1:13:37] Probably not 200 empowerments, but.
[1:13:40] Some number of homes.
[1:13:42] Homes.And
[1:13:43] now you have an association.
[1:13:46] Claton neighborhood.
[1:13:48] With this easement that he deals with a golf course.
[1:13:52] Someone has damage to them on that.
[1:13:55] Land
[1:13:55] that they own.
[1:13:57] And they've got this permitted use there.
[1:13:59] Mm-hmm they're gonna be liable.
[1:14:02] It just, it's not clean.
[1:14:03] Mm-hmm do you know what I'm saying?
[1:14:04] If there's a way to do it.
[1:14:06] It would be, I would encourage you to explore it.
[1:14:09] Okay.
[1:14:09] Fee simple ownership in general, a situation like this to me with very different
[1:14:13] uses.
[1:14:13] Yes.
[1:14:14] I understand it's recreation, but it's.
[1:14:16] It's it's, it's a commercial enterprise, a golf course.
[1:14:20] Okay.
[1:14:20] Yeah.
[1:14:20] And it's gonna be separate ownership.
[1:14:23] You know what I mean?
[1:14:25] Mm-hmm .
[1:14:26] So if there's a way to consider that, I know that's.
[1:14:30] That's not what you're looking at right now, but I would encourage.
[1:14:34] Did, did you have anything else at this point or?
[1:14:36] No?
[1:14:37] Regarding
[1:14:39] no.
[1:14:40] No.
[1:14:41] Anything's well, I do have a few.
[1:14:42] Yeah, I have a few and I'll try to keep it brief cuz I
[1:14:45] know we still need to do the sidewalk, but I have.
[1:14:48] A hard time with a few things.
[1:14:50] I'm still struggling with Jen's question about lot one.
[1:14:53] And I guess if you're gonna do a yield plan and you're not gonna
[1:14:56] be.
[1:14:56] Having the easement.
[1:14:59] And also your current concurrent conditions, but can you reposition.
[1:15:05] The
[1:15:06] building envelope.
[1:15:08] Where it would be.
[1:15:10] V. I don't see how you're gonna change that.
[1:15:13] So where it is currently cause it's 20, it's like 25 feet wide
[1:15:17] on the frontage.
[1:15:18] Of your road, your driveway in it's very narrow.
[1:15:23] So the buildable envelope, it's hard to see on this plan, but it, it
[1:15:26] goes basically over the easement because it's like as if the easement one there
[1:15:30] Yeah.
[1:15:30] I see that.
[1:15:31] I see.
[1:15:31] That.Yeah.
[1:15:31] So that, that area is wide enough for a house.
[1:15:34] I mean, we could probably show.
[1:15:36] We could show like a house on that, on that lot.
[1:15:40] On the revised.
[1:15:40] This seems like really tiny to me, but if you can do it.
[1:15:47] That'd be great.
[1:15:47] I also don't see the building envelope for lot eight.
[1:15:50] And
[1:15:51] I'm a little worried because you have lots of wetlands buffers.
[1:15:56] Buffers.
[1:15:57] It's not pictured on my plan set anyway, unless.
[1:16:02] I see a, I see what looks like it might be, but it goes
[1:16:05] into lot seven if, unless I'm misinterpret.
[1:16:09] Misinterpreting.
[1:16:09] So, yeah, so lot seven is here.
[1:16:11] Yeah.
[1:16:12] Lot eight is here.
[1:16:13] Can you, can you kind of outline where you are?
[1:16:17] Expecting a, a building site on lot eight on lot eight on lot eight
[1:16:21] Yes.
[1:16:22] Right.
[1:16:23] Here.
[1:16:25] wow.
[1:16:27] Okay.
[1:16:27] And you've got like 300 feet of roadway to get into it and crossing
[1:16:32] over a wetland.
[1:16:33] Yes, that would be the driveway for lot eight.
[1:16:35] Okay.
[1:16:36] Not crazy about that either.
[1:16:39] That would be a very, it looks, I think, deceiving on the plan, but
[1:16:42] that would be a very minor wetland crossing, cuz that's only about a 12
[1:16:46] foot wide driveway.
[1:16:47] Because it's only for the single family home.
[1:16:50] It's just a lot of pavement and.
[1:16:53] Wetland crossing.
[1:16:54] I'm I'm just not, I'm not excited about that one.
[1:16:58] Well, again, on this one, Gwen, it's a yield point.
[1:17:01] I know it is, but we have to, we have to determine it's that
[1:17:04] it's a viable.
[1:17:04] Correct.
[1:17:05] And that we would, would approve it if this were to go through, right
[1:17:08] Yes.
[1:17:09] Yeah.
[1:17:10] So I'm just saying I, I have, yeah, I have concerns about that one
[1:17:17] In in your letter.
[1:17:20] In your letter.
[1:17:22] I guess it was in your Jones and beach introductory letter.
[1:17:25] You mentioned a
[1:17:28] stream channel.
[1:17:28] It was on the 7 28, 26.
[1:17:30] Yes.
[1:17:31] Ladder on page one.
[1:17:33] Where is the, is the street stream channel that you described?
[1:17:36] I think it's supposed to be on the Western side of the property.
[1:17:40] So I think there was a little bit of confusion.
[1:17:42] Kristen brought that to my attention as well.
[1:17:44] So really what it is is there's this wetland area on this side of
[1:17:48] the property.
[1:17:48] It's all one wetland that's connected, but what it is is that there's an
[1:17:52] intermittent stream channel that runs down from this wetland.
[1:17:56] To this lower wetland and then eventually into the river.
[1:17:59] But that is an intermittent stream.
[1:18:01] So because of that, it doesn't qualify for the Shoreland.
[1:18:04] District.
[1:18:05] Okay.
[1:18:06] I thought it was maybe over, closer to.
[1:18:09] Set on the Western side of the property.
[1:18:10] So I assumed it was over near the.
[1:18:15] Closer to the roadway, your entrance way.
[1:18:18] No, that is that's the only area I think the, the way that it
[1:18:21] was described in the letter was just a little bit unclear.
[1:18:23] Cause Kristen had the same question for me, so, oh, okay.
[1:18:28] On the south end south property line, there are two.
[1:18:31] Squares.
[1:18:32] One's a rectangular
[1:18:34] area
[1:18:34] on lot 14.
[1:18:35] And the other one is.
[1:18:37] Kind of on
[1:18:39] Doug Eastman's property.
[1:18:41] And lot
[1:18:42] 10.
[1:18:43] What is that?
[1:18:45] It's a little box it's right on the property shed, right?
[1:18:48] Is that
[1:18:50] it shows it's partly on.
[1:18:52] The, on your property.
[1:18:54] That, that one, that one there and then to the right, that one.
[1:18:58] Yeah.
[1:18:58] What are those?
[1:18:59] I think, I think that's Doug's shed.
[1:19:00] Yeah,
[1:19:02] maybe he can.
[1:19:03] Answer what it is.
[1:19:03] Oh, okay.
[1:19:05] And the other one is on the left is.
[1:19:09] That's his, yeah, that's that's on your that's on lock 14.
[1:19:15] I'm just curious.
[1:19:16] Can I answer it's up to the chair to sure.
[1:19:22] Greg McCarthy four Webster, a.
[1:19:24] Ave.
[1:19:25] There's nothing there.
[1:19:26] It shows up.
[1:19:27] It's on my it's on the paperwork I got.
[1:19:30] When I closed down the house.
[1:19:31] It's on all of.
[1:19:33] These charts, there used to be something there.
[1:19:36] The foundation blocks are still in place, and apparently there was a brick central
[1:19:40] chimney.
[1:19:41] Someone mentioned
[1:19:44] a former gun club.
[1:19:46] I don't know.
[1:19:47] I don't it's it's nothing.
[1:19:48] Okay.
[1:19:48] There is no building there.
[1:19:50] Okay.
[1:19:50] It is in the tree line and according to my deed,
[1:19:54] it
[1:19:55] is probably mine.
[1:19:56] I don't know.
[1:19:58] Okay, thank you.
[1:19:58] Our surveyors called it out as remnants of old brick structure.
[1:20:02] Yeah.
[1:20:02] Oh, okay.
[1:20:04] Something all right.
[1:20:07] You're gonna mark your 20.
[1:20:09] Inch and over trees on their plans.
[1:20:11] Yes.
[1:20:11] Yes, we did locate them, please.
[1:20:13] We just have to.
[1:20:15] Update the plan.
[1:20:17] Okay.
[1:20:21] Let me just see if there are any other questions that would be helpful
[1:20:25] Are you putting in curbing?
[1:20:28] Particularly on the
[1:20:30] I don't, I'm not an engineer, but it seems like on the Eastern side
[1:20:33] of your entrance road to direct the water.
[1:20:37] Into.
[1:20:38] Yeah, so we actually have curbing currently on the Western side, we actually.
[1:20:43] Purposely
[1:20:44] designed it that way to.
[1:20:46] Have the runoff not go toward those abutters it's on the Western side.
[1:20:51] Yeah.
[1:20:52] It seems like the Eastern side would be.
[1:20:54] Yeah, we actually super elevated the roadway to go the other way to keep
[1:20:58] the runoff away from the neighbors.
[1:21:00] Oh, oh.
[1:21:00] Oh.
[1:21:01] So that'll get regraded.
[1:21:03] And then we do have some curbing coming in.
[1:21:05] That design is going to be revised slightly based on some comments we received
[1:21:09] at the TRC.
[1:21:10] So there may be additional curbing added in the next revision that you can
[1:21:13] see.
[1:21:14] Okay, but not removed, not removed.
[1:21:16] No.
[1:21:17] Basically, we have some sections of the roadway super elevated that D P w
[1:21:21] would prefer to see crowned.
[1:21:22] So we're going to revise that to be crowned, which may result in more
[1:21:25] Carbon.
[1:21:26] Okay.
[1:21:27] Thank you.
[1:21:29] And
[1:21:31] typically with a development of this site.
[1:21:33] I mean,
[1:21:35] I don't
[1:21:37] don't there's there's.
[1:21:39] Provision for some kind of recreation area for.
[1:21:43] Families in this
[1:21:45] proposed development.
[1:21:46] I know you've got a golf course around you, but is there.
[1:21:51] I'm thinking of the existing neighborhood and where these kids are going to play
[1:21:56] Where your kid's going to play and maybe they can include.
[1:22:01] The existing neighborhood.
[1:22:02] Is there any area that is sort of designated.
[1:22:08] For like a, your community.
[1:22:11] Right now we have the proposed open space and we also have the, the
[1:22:15] cart path, which provides the access to.
[1:22:18] The conservation land that's surrounding.
[1:22:20] We don't have any designated.
[1:22:22] Recreation area, but we can, we can think about that.
[1:22:24] Oh, nothing, nothing on site.
[1:22:25] We also do have the middle of the cul-de-sac, which is currently just a
[1:22:29] grass area.
[1:22:29] So that could.
[1:22:30] Be something could be done there.
[1:22:31] Mm-hmm
[1:22:32] I have some thoughts about that too, but .
[1:22:36] Definitely an opportunity.
[1:22:38] Yes with this project to do that.
[1:22:40] Yeah.
[1:22:41] Absolutely.
[1:22:43] Am I certainly I to address the neighbors, I.
[1:22:47] I, I, I sympathize with all of you and I, I, I.
[1:22:52] Recognize that there
[1:22:54] our developments that we've approved.
[1:22:57] That
[1:22:58] we haven't had any way to.
[1:23:01] Control whether or not they've fit into the
[1:23:04] existing neighborhoods or not.
[1:23:07] I would just certainly like to see an attempt made to make this feel
[1:23:10] like it's part of.
[1:23:12] The existing neighborhood.
[1:23:15] And again, we can't
[1:23:17] can't we can't dictate whether it's affordable or not.
[1:23:19] I wish we could, but.
[1:23:22] That's
[1:23:22] developers.
[1:23:24] Are there to make money and.
[1:23:26] Money drives the boat.
[1:23:27] Doesn't it.
[1:23:28] Unfortunately.
[1:23:29] But I, my heart goes out too.
[1:23:32] I've I've dealt with this.
[1:23:33] So I , I can appreciate where you're all coming from.
[1:23:38] And there are, we are still a tree city.
[1:23:41] And we are working very hard to, yes.
[1:23:43] Keep that going.
[1:23:44] We've we've gotten.
[1:23:46] Lots of accolades for the work that we've done.
[1:23:49] And we continue to try to.
[1:23:52] Increase the canopy in town because we realize that a lot has been taken
[1:23:55] away over the years.
[1:23:56] And we're trying very hard to.
[1:23:59] Plant as much as we can.
[1:24:00] So I'm glad you brought that up.
[1:24:02] .
[1:24:05] I'll leave it.
[1:24:06] I'll leave it at that for now.
[1:24:11] Sam you're on the board, man.
[1:24:12] What's going on?
[1:24:14] Soaking it all in.
[1:24:15] Yeah.
[1:24:17] Smart man.
[1:24:18] Wife is soaking .
[1:24:21] Wrong with that.
[1:24:21] You don't have anything at this time.
[1:24:23] You sure.
[1:24:25] My, my thoughts are.
[1:24:28] When
[1:24:29] the next to last house on JD hill road was for sale seven or
[1:24:33] eight years ago.
[1:24:35] I was one of the guys that looked at it.
[1:24:37] I did not end up owning it, but at the very unique neighborhood,
[1:24:41] and so I have some sympathy.
[1:24:43] It is very attractive.
[1:24:47] I have a hard time.
[1:24:49] Visualizing
[1:24:51] how this development
[1:24:54] can replace the
[1:24:57] what's the word I want the, the charm that's there now.
[1:25:03] But a sidewalk, some further meetings.
[1:25:06] Meetings.I'll have more to say later,
[1:25:08] but, but I have reservations.
[1:25:09] Yeah.
[1:25:11] Thanks.Yeah.
[1:25:11] Thanks for letting me put you on the spot.
[1:25:13] Okay.
[1:25:13] .
[1:25:16] Let's try to get a sidewalk schedule.
[1:25:25] Yeah.
[1:25:25] So I don't know if.
[1:25:27] It's possible to have the site walk prior to our meeting with the conservation
[1:25:31] commission, because that way we could see if Kristen could invite them as well
[1:25:34] When's that?
[1:25:35] We meet with them on October 13th, October 13th.
[1:25:39] Mm-hmm I think so.
[1:25:41] We certainly hope so.
[1:25:43] I hope so.
[1:25:48] You're meeting them on the 13th.
[1:25:51] Mr chairman.
[1:25:52] Yeah, I'll be out of town until the seventh.
[1:25:55] Of October.
[1:25:56] Yeah.
[1:25:57] Okay.
[1:25:58] So we're gonna do it on the seventh.
[1:26:00] No.
[1:26:01] So we gotta do it before the seventh.
[1:26:02] We can do it.
[1:26:04] Could we do it on the 13th right before.
[1:26:06] The meeting is that possible?
[1:26:09] 13th is a Tuesday.
[1:26:11] I'll be out of town that week.
[1:26:12] Nope.
[1:26:13] .
[1:26:14] Ah, see, but we can't, I mean, I, I can walk the site on
[1:26:17] my own.
[1:26:19] Take some golf balls up.
[1:26:20] .
[1:26:22] careful.
[1:26:25] What I mean, you're out that, how about that whole week?
[1:26:28] Yeah, that whole week.
[1:26:29] Yeah.
[1:26:30] Right there on the eighth.
[1:26:30] Yep.
[1:26:31] What, what about the eighth?
[1:26:32] They're on the eighth.
[1:26:32] Yep.
[1:26:33] Eighth, the ninth, eighth.
[1:26:38] I can do it as well.
[1:26:38] It's in the morning.
[1:26:40] Eight is a meeting day, too, for us.
[1:26:42] It is, it is at seven o'clock that night.
[1:26:44] Those are always usually good days.
[1:26:47] I think,
[1:26:48] I think.
[1:26:48] We have an MTOC meeting then.
[1:26:51] Right that I was thrown out.
[1:26:53] Well, that day confirmed by the other guy.
[1:26:55] Who'll be there right there.
[1:26:57] I scheduled.
[1:26:58] So I guess it's.
[1:26:59] It's flexible.
[1:26:59] We can move that easily.
[1:27:00] You can do.
[1:27:01] Yeah.
[1:27:01] Yeah.
[1:27:02] Because you usually do.
[1:27:03] 'em what at eight.
[1:27:05] Yeah.
[1:27:05] Yeah.
[1:27:05] Last time we talked.
[1:27:06] So we usually try to do the sidewalks in the morning.
[1:27:08] We don't last time I couldn't get back in time to get that's why
[1:27:12] I missed it.
[1:27:12] Oh,
[1:27:13] wow.
[1:27:13] What time would work for you on the eighth?
[1:27:15] Eight o'clock eight.
[1:27:18] Thank you.
[1:27:18] Yeah,
[1:27:19] go back.
[1:27:20] Sorry.
[1:27:20] I'm back.
[1:27:21] Can make the eighth.
[1:27:24] At eight.
[1:27:24] Yes.
[1:27:26] Yep.
[1:27:27] We'll just redo our, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:27:29] Okay.
[1:27:29] Jen, you can do that one.
[1:27:30] Yep.
[1:27:32] Am on the eighth that works for us.
[1:27:37] Yeah.What would the board like to see staked out the sidewalk, the road center
[1:27:41] line.
[1:27:42] Yeah, I think would be.
[1:27:46] Center of the cul-de-sac yeah, yeah.
[1:27:49] Maybe road center line, so right to it.
[1:27:52] Probably that easement.
[1:27:54] And
[1:27:56] the some area, just the box easement.
[1:27:58] The easement on the edge way.
[1:27:59] It's pretty obvious.
[1:28:00] I'm sure.
[1:28:01] But just be whoever's.
[1:28:03] Whoever's there for your group,
[1:28:04] able to tell us, show us where that is.
[1:28:07] Do you mean the utilities meant?
[1:28:08] Yeah.
[1:28:09] Okay.
[1:28:09] Oh, utilities, utilities, utilities.
[1:28:11] Were coming in while the tea box one's gonna be off, that's gonna be
[1:28:14] the telephone pole line.
[1:28:15] Yeah, that'll be that's.
[1:28:16] That's fine.
[1:28:16] Marked just so are you looking, looking for the.
[1:28:20] Tee box.
[1:28:20] Yeah.
[1:28:21] I I'd like to see the boundary lines on that.
[1:28:23] Okay.
[1:28:25] And maybe the limit, a cut on the, yeah.
[1:28:28] You know, on the outside of the subdivision.
[1:28:30] So get a sense of.
[1:28:31] Okay.
[1:28:32] And if you had time take place, if you had time to propose a
[1:28:35] recreation area beyond what you've shown so far, there's a bit of a time
[1:28:39] lapse.
[1:28:40] Maybe that if you have an area, even if you're still in the design
[1:28:44] stages, you know what I mean?
[1:28:45] Mm-hmm like where you think it might work.
[1:28:47] Okay.
[1:28:47] Yeah.
[1:28:48] Using the conservation.
[1:28:51] Where the wildlife is, is probably not.
[1:28:55] That didn't excite me at all.
[1:28:56] Okay.
[1:28:57] Just, just, I'm being honest that that's for the wildlife and things.
[1:29:00] We can walk there, but.
[1:29:02] To to think that
[1:29:05] recreation is not
[1:29:07] okay.
[1:29:11] I agree.
[1:29:14] I don't think there's anything else other than.
[1:29:18] Maybe, you know, being able, it's nothing to really mark, but just being able
[1:29:22] to talk as with us further about.
[1:29:25] Your drainage.
[1:29:27] Yes, that's the big one.
[1:29:29] Yeah, I think when we go out there, we can start, you know,
[1:29:33] up near the intersection.
[1:29:34] Yeah.
[1:29:34] Oh.
[1:29:35] So we can take a look at that drainage and see how it's all
[1:29:37] gonna function.
[1:29:39] Yes, we do usually talk about where we're gonna park.
[1:29:41] Do we park at the golf course.
[1:29:43] You think?
[1:29:43] I mean, there.
[1:29:45] You have a lot of parking
[1:29:46] in the morning.
[1:29:46] Yeah,
[1:29:47] it should.
[1:29:48] It shouldn't be anybody there at that point.
[1:29:50] That's plea golf pretty
[1:29:52] right.
[1:29:52] Yeah.
[1:29:53] They.
[1:29:54] Dot sunrise really a little later.
[1:29:57] maybe mark off and air will, but I could be wrong park or
[1:29:59] something.
[1:30:00] Okay.
[1:30:01] Would we have our
[1:30:03] TRC responses by then?
[1:30:06] By October 8th.
[1:30:07] So what, when do we, no.
[1:30:09] Is it the eighth?
[1:30:09] Yes.
[1:30:09] The eighth.
[1:30:10] Sorry.
[1:30:11] I would, yeah, I would think so.
[1:30:12] What's the date is.
[1:30:14] There a deadline to resubmit.
[1:30:16] Yeah.I mean, you're probably gonna table it till what?
[1:30:18] The 22nd.
[1:30:18] Yeah.
[1:30:19] October 22nd meeting.
[1:30:20] Well, we've got that far yet so that the deadline would be like the
[1:30:22] 15th.
[1:30:23] Yeah.
[1:30:23] You should be able, I mean, should.
[1:30:24] Be able to do that.
[1:30:25] Yeah, we can, we can try to get both then it's just helpful to
[1:30:27] have the responses.
[1:30:28] So grant me questions based on those.
[1:30:30] Yeah.
[1:30:30] I mean, it's only.
[1:30:32] September 10th.
[1:30:33] So I think that's doable for sure.
[1:30:37] Have you already done a sidewalk with conservation?
[1:30:40] We have not, no, that's why we're trying to do it
[1:30:42] a joint.
[1:30:42] So yeah.
[1:30:43] Feel free.
[1:30:44] To invite them to the same one.
[1:30:47] Okay.If that works,
[1:30:48] we've done that before.
[1:30:49] Works fine for us.
[1:30:52] So it's October 8th at 8:00 AM. The public is welcome.
[1:30:56] Mm-hmm , public's encouraged to come oh, with my calendar already.
[1:31:00] All right.
[1:31:01] .
[1:31:02] I can't really ask you guys if you can make it, but if you
[1:31:04] can, it would be helpful.
[1:31:05] It's it's on both calendars.
[1:31:06] All right.
[1:31:07] Personal.
[1:31:08] We're good.
[1:31:08] There you go.
[1:31:09] And letter to.
[1:31:10] The select board chair.
[1:31:11] Yes, sooner than later, please.
[1:31:15] Okay.
[1:31:16] One, you hit something.
[1:31:17] Just one quick question.
[1:31:21] Well, yeah, I think they'll continue us
[1:31:24] determine the date.
[1:31:25] Go ahead, Olivia, on your, on your original yield plan.
[1:31:30] On the Eastern side of the property.
[1:31:32] There's
[1:31:35] the dotted line that goes from the Stonewall to the edge.
[1:31:40] It's a, it's a, it's kind of in the middle of that big, clear
[1:31:42] space, which is your golf course.
[1:31:45] The dotted
[1:31:46] right.
[1:31:48] Right down a little bit.
[1:31:48] It goes horizontal.
[1:31:50] That one on the original yield plan you had.
[1:31:54] A proposed
[1:31:55] property line that came down.
[1:31:57] It was kind of squared off conservation.
[1:32:00] What happened with that?
[1:32:02] That's conservation,
[1:32:03] I think.
[1:32:04] Yeah, I think so that, that line currently is the limit of the conservation
[1:32:09] Easement, but I think, I think I don't have with me, but I think
[1:32:12] what it was was originally we had a slightly different.
[1:32:16] It was like,
[1:32:17] here's the, can you see that?
[1:32:19] Yes.
[1:32:19] And it was a line that.
[1:32:22] Was like you changed the property line?
[1:32:24] Yeah, I think originally we weren't sure how much of the property we were
[1:32:28] going to be getting from.
[1:32:30] The country club.
[1:32:30] So that was revised with our latest provision.
[1:32:33] Okay.
[1:32:33] But this is follow the road accurate because otherwise it was kind of just
[1:32:36] a little excess piece of plan.
[1:32:38] It's kind.
[1:32:39] We just knew the road was gonna be in that, that rectangle.
[1:32:42] Yeah.
[1:32:42] That you're you were pointing to on your plan.
[1:32:44] And we just only took what we needed.
[1:32:46] Okay.
[1:32:46] And left the rest of the golf.
[1:32:47] Okay.
[1:32:48] Okay.
[1:32:48] So I can ignore that.
[1:32:49] All right.
[1:32:52] Thanks.
[1:32:53] So I think I'm looking for a motion.
[1:32:59] Both table to
[1:33:01] continue, whatever it is.
[1:33:02] Go. Yeah.
[1:33:03] What was the date, Mr. Sharples, that you suggested we table at 22nd,
[1:33:08] October 22nd.
[1:33:09] Okay.
[1:33:10] Second.
[1:33:10] Yep.
[1:33:10] No AK room seven.
[1:33:11] That'll work for you guys.
[1:33:13] That does.
[1:33:13] Yeah, that works well.
[1:33:14] So that it's after the sidewalk.
[1:33:16] Yeah.
[1:33:17] And the concrete make,
[1:33:20] I'll give it a shot.
[1:33:21] I moved that weed table.
[1:33:24] Planning board.
[1:33:26] Case number 26 dash 14.
[1:33:30] To our October 22nd, 2026.
[1:33:34] Meeting here in the no back room at 7:00 PM.
[1:33:39] Second.
[1:33:40] Any discussion,
[1:33:43] all those in favor.
[1:33:44] Aye.
[1:33:44] Aye.
[1:33:45] Yes.
[1:33:46] Pensions opposed.
[1:33:49] Thank you cabled.
[1:33:50] Thank you.
[1:33:52] Thank you very much.
[1:33:53] Yeah.
[1:33:54] Thanks for coming.
[1:33:56] Mr.
[1:33:58] Yes,
[1:34:01] I'm sorry.
[1:34:03] You wanna leave?
[1:34:04] No,
[1:34:05] that's okay.
[1:34:07] Yeah, I know that.
[1:34:09] Look a little.
[1:34:14] Oh, boy, I, I,
[1:34:16] you look pretty close
[1:34:19] elevator.
[1:34:20] You okay to drive?
[1:34:21] Yeah.
[1:34:21] Yeah, yeah.
[1:34:23] She said this guy.
[1:34:25] Yeah, no problem.
[1:34:27] Okay.
[1:34:29] Yeah.
[1:34:30] Thank you.
[1:34:30] Ma'am.
[1:34:39] Meeting
[1:34:40] table.
[1:34:42] Table the office 27th meeting minutes.
[1:34:44] Cause they weren't in attack.
[1:34:46] Sure.
[1:34:47] Okay, can do it any time.
[1:34:49] Just for the record, Jen Martel, excused herself due to illness.
[1:34:56] Can I say one thing you can try.
[1:35:01] I might a little closer.
[1:35:03] That's it.
[1:35:03] Thank you for the sidewalk.
[1:35:05] You can park in the exit or.
[1:35:07] Exeter country park.
[1:35:07] Oh, thank you.
[1:35:08] I just figured answer that question.
[1:35:09] Thank you.
[1:35:10] Appreciate it.
[1:35:12] We'll be parking.
[1:35:14] Do you want a table that.
[1:35:16] I moved that we table our meeting minutes from our August 27th.
[1:35:21] 2026 meeting.
[1:35:24] Two,
[1:35:26] I'm sorry.
[1:35:27] Are
[1:35:29] two
[1:35:30] September 24th, 2026 meeting.
[1:35:34] Second discussion.
[1:35:37] All those in favor.
[1:35:38] Aye.
[1:35:38] Aye.
[1:35:38] Aye.
[1:35:39] Both.
[1:35:43] That was easy.
[1:35:45] okay.
[1:35:47] We on to the next.
[1:35:48] Case
[1:35:50] think everybody's cleared out now.
[1:35:51] Wow.
[1:35:53] Quiet room.
[1:35:54] .
[1:35:56] Must have been something you said, I know.
[1:35:59] with something they said,
[1:36:00] okay, I'm going to start the next case application of.
[1:36:04] I'm sorry if I say this wrong.
[1:36:06] Vanessa hanging.
[1:36:08] Bruce Bruce Lee Inc.
[1:36:11] V B H
[1:36:12] BHP.
[1:36:13] Thank you.
[1:36:14] Yeah.
[1:36:16] VHB yeah.
[1:36:17] Type says VB type.
[1:36:19] It's a,
[1:36:20] yeah, it doesn't wear Ru line up.
[1:36:21] Does it?
[1:36:22] VB V H B .
[1:36:25] On behalf of S P N H Exeter, LLC, for a lot line adjustment
[1:36:30] between.
[1:36:31] Map 66.
[1:36:33] Lots one and two through the transfer of approximately 3009, three, three point.
[1:36:39] Excellent.3009 acres, three point.
[1:36:41] That's a darn big watch an adjustment.
[1:36:43] That is a big model adjustment.
[1:36:45] The Prairie half of the town.
[1:36:48] Oh, oh nine.
[1:36:49] Yeah.
[1:36:49] We're.
[1:36:50] Metra.
[1:36:51] I have a much bigger
[1:36:53] thousand.
[1:36:55] Yeah, 3.09 acres.
[1:36:57] Geez.
[1:36:58] A map 66 lot one owned by Palmer Sakara, Inc. To map 66, lot
[1:37:04] two owned by.
[1:37:06] North country trust planning, board case number 26 dash 15.
[1:37:10] Hopefully I didn't butcher that too much, but.
[1:37:13] I tend to think I might have no it's okay.
[1:37:15] Hey, chairman, Mr. Chairman fresh, just for the record.
[1:37:18] I've mentioned this before, but I've recently retire.
[1:37:21] Retired from VHB.
[1:37:23] I thought you looked familiar.
[1:37:24] Yeah,
[1:37:25] I, I was not involved in this project prior to my retirement, so
[1:37:28] I don't see any reason to be excuse.
[1:37:30] Accused myself, but if anybody would like me to, I could go home.
[1:37:34] you okay with my feeling with that, Marty?
[1:37:37] I, I think.
[1:37:38] You do the right thing.
[1:37:38] You're bringing it up.
[1:37:39] Mm-hmm putting it out there.
[1:37:40] You're asking for input.
[1:37:42] I think generally in those situations, that's the right thing to do.
[1:37:45] And also it's your internal.
[1:37:48] You know.
[1:37:48] Right, right, right, right.
[1:37:49] And then, so I, I respect.
[1:37:51] Your conscience and I Jimy crickets telling you that.
[1:37:54] You're okay.
[1:37:55] I'm good.
[1:37:55] I'm gonna tell you, I feel you're okay.
[1:37:58] I think he's okay.
[1:37:58] I think he's fine.
[1:37:59] He's fine.You sure?
[1:38:00] Sam, he looks little shaded.
[1:38:01] I like brings wanna get him out there.
[1:38:02] He looks just fine.
[1:38:02] Yeah.
[1:38:03] I do appreciate.
[1:38:04] Thanks Sam.
[1:38:04] You bringing it up though?
[1:38:05] It's out there.
[1:38:06] Yeah.
[1:38:06] It's a way to go.
[1:38:09] Dave, are we good?
[1:38:11] Yeah, the I'll I'll have some comments in a second, but I'll just say
[1:38:14] it's complete for review purposes, in my opinion, you should, you know, so we
[1:38:18] should open the.
[1:38:19] Case, except it is complete vote on acceptance as complete for review purposes.
[1:38:24] So op to open the case.
[1:38:25] Yes.
[1:38:25] Somebody hear that.
[1:38:27] Yes.
[1:38:27] Somebody wanna make that motion?
[1:38:29] Sure.
[1:38:29] I make a motion that we accept.
[1:38:32] Planning board case.
[1:38:34] 26 dash 15.
[1:38:37] And open the case
[1:38:40] complete for review purposes, purposes.
[1:38:42] And I will second that.
[1:38:45] In discussion, all those in favor.
[1:38:47] Aye.
[1:38:48] Aye.
[1:38:48] Aye.
[1:38:48] Aye.
[1:38:49] Opposed, same.
[1:38:52] We're open.
[1:38:52] Okay.
[1:38:53] Just wanted to make up a point.
[1:38:55] I'm gonna Dave, if you heard about it, but our, we got a spam
[1:39:00] spa.
[1:39:00] Spam.Oh, he said that attempt this morning, where.
[1:39:03] Somebody posed as a
[1:39:05] external employee used all the information from online and said, you owe us by
[1:39:10] the, by the start of the meeting, you owe us an approval fee.
[1:39:13] That's happened and here give us your wiring information.
[1:39:16] And they actually went back and forth before they realized, like, that's scary.
[1:39:19] This doesn't make any sense, but just given I, if there's other people that
[1:39:24] are coming up.
[1:39:24] On
[1:39:25] for applications, just to let them know that, keep an eye on that
[1:39:29] the town doesn't require.
[1:39:31] Yeah, wiring.
[1:39:32] I did not the fees for somewhere.
[1:39:34] Yeah.
[1:39:34] It just happened this afternoon.
[1:39:36] Yeah.
[1:39:36] That was part of my public service announcement that I was gonna do later
[1:39:39] Because you weren't the only one.
[1:39:41] No, no problem.
[1:39:41] I'm you, weren't the only one on this agenda that got hit.
[1:39:44] They, they must look at the PA planning board packets on the website.
[1:39:48] Where your email, your phone back all there.
[1:39:50] Your name is all there.
[1:39:51] So they contact, they contacted the prior application too, like two days ago.
[1:39:56] And tried to get an approval fee.
[1:39:57] So the town of exit will never ask for.
[1:40:00] You know, demand money right away, and you can always come in and pay
[1:40:05] for a check.
[1:40:05] We never ask for, we don't even have the ability to get it.
[1:40:09] Wired to us.
[1:40:09] So especially the other day, someone asked for an Austin, Texas, so we we're
[1:40:14] not in Texas.
[1:40:14] So if anyone.
[1:40:16] Asks you for that, it's a scam.
[1:40:18] So maybe that's something also to mention.
[1:40:21] Unfortunately
[1:40:22] to applicants when you meet with them initially and such right when they're doing
[1:40:26] the application or
[1:40:27] the department, I mean, within reason, obvious.
[1:40:29] Obviously, yeah.
[1:40:30] Maybe put a, you know, yeah.
[1:40:32] That's something in the real estate world.
[1:40:34] We actually have that on our contracts now.
[1:40:37] It's that bad where people are getting requested to.
[1:40:41] Wire deposit monies and such.
[1:40:42] And it's just, it's pretty crazy out there.
[1:40:44] Isn't it?
[1:40:45] Yeah.
[1:40:45] Yeah.
[1:40:46] So I'm gonna send the town managers aware of it.
[1:40:50] I just, I just found out about it.
[1:40:53] Before the meeting, so, oh, so he had already lied.
[1:40:55] I had, he'd already lied meeting.
[1:40:56] Are you tomorrow?
[1:40:57] Could you talk to him cuz they might wanna put a, a, a warrant
[1:40:59] That's what I was thinking like a bit on our website.
[1:41:01] Website.
[1:41:01] Yeah, I think that would be important.
[1:41:03] Thank you for bringing that.
[1:41:04] I was gonna say it.
[1:41:05] It's good where we've seen it happened up in Lebanon two.
[1:41:09] The
[1:41:10] the savvy
[1:41:12] people that do it all the time were okay.
[1:41:13] It was the people that going in for zoning relief or a front yard
[1:41:18] setback that who don't do it all the.
[1:41:20] Time that really got hit by that.
[1:41:22] I know it'd be easy to put, send the money in.
[1:41:24] Absolutely be seen again, especially if you, you know, not sound weird, but especially
[1:41:27] if you don't ask for.
[1:41:28] That much.
[1:41:29] I know, you know what I mean?
[1:41:30] Like on a box or whatever, that was five grand.
[1:41:33] This one was five grand.
[1:41:34] That's a pretty, I've been asking for five grand.
[1:41:35] I'd say ambition.
[1:41:36] Yeah.
[1:41:37] .
[1:41:38] Yeah.
[1:41:38] And then may I just say my before.
[1:41:41] No, I just have some opening comments.
[1:41:43] Yeah.
[1:41:43] Just to make, just
[1:41:44] as you said, this is a lot merger.
[1:41:46] It's a boundary line adjustment.
[1:41:47] No new lots are being created.
[1:41:49] It's taken two lots and it's adjusting the boundary between them and it's adding
[1:41:54] Some land area to one of the lots and taking it away from the
[1:41:57] other.
[1:41:59] Basically, it's just
[1:42:01] there's a landlocked parcel that, that owned by north north country.
[1:42:04] Trust.
[1:42:05] And parliaments has front of John Holland way and they're giving three acres along.
[1:42:11] That they own in front of.
[1:42:13] The the main parcels to provide frontage.
[1:42:16] For the north country trust lot.
[1:42:18] He'll describe it.
[1:42:19] What I do with the lot line adjustments, you just review the plans for
[1:42:22] consistency, with our land use regulations to determine if they violate.
[1:42:27] Any zoning ordinances, you know, does it, does it make one lot less?
[1:42:32] Less conform or less than the minimum lot area per se,
[1:42:35] or does it, you know, affect the build lot area?
[1:42:37] These are very large, lots.
[1:42:39] It.
[1:42:39] Does not violate in my opinion, any of the zoning.
[1:42:42] Terms of the zoning ordinance or our other regulations.
[1:42:46] The applicant does request two waivers, but I don't believe either of these.
[1:42:51] Apply as this is merely a lot line adjustment and no lot new lots
[1:42:54] are being created.
[1:42:55] In my opinion.
[1:42:57] So I believe the that's what it meant to be safe.
[1:42:59] yeah.
[1:42:59] I think the waivers are moot, but I'll let you know.
[1:43:01] They're they're in there.
[1:43:03] They're being requested.
[1:43:04] I don't believe.
[1:43:05] Either one of them are necessary.
[1:43:07] That's all I have.
[1:43:08] Mr. Chairman.
[1:43:08] Thank you.
[1:43:09] Yep.
[1:43:10] Great.
[1:43:11] So I'm Dave FEMA from DHB and I'm representing the, the applicant.
[1:43:16] Statement.
[1:43:17] I did a little color exhibit.
[1:43:18] It was a little easier to see, but as he mentioned, we're.
[1:43:22] My client owns this lot too, which is landlocked up here is Holland way
[1:43:29] So in the event, we are gonna develop this for any purpose.
[1:43:33] And it's also something that we've talked with the town about, where there could
[1:43:36] be a potential.
[1:43:38] You know, location for a new water treatment plant.
[1:43:42] Any, any scenario, those that would need to be a curb cut on hauling
[1:43:45] way to access the site.
[1:43:48] And it's landlocked.
[1:43:49] So
[1:43:50] you can see, but the Palmers, the car had a, has a weird panhandle
[1:43:54] shaped to it right here.
[1:43:56] Really unusable for them.
[1:43:59] So they've reached an agreement where this little wedge here.
[1:44:02] About three acres
[1:44:04] would just get flipped over so you can see the, the lots basically remain
[1:44:08] this about the same.
[1:44:09] There's just a.
[1:44:11] Flipping of the three acres from, from one to the other.
[1:44:14] And now this, they each have appropriate frontage on Holland way for a curb
[1:44:18] cut at some point.
[1:44:22] The waivers that we discussed.
[1:44:24] And again, one of them said if deemed necessary about the town planner.
[1:44:28] So it sounds like not deemed for, but it really.
[1:44:31] Got into, if you were creating new lots.
[1:44:33] Lots.And it wanted you to provide a high intensity soil survey for the entire
[1:44:37] site or portion.
[1:44:39] We were just noting that, you know, the intent is really the lot line
[1:44:42] adjustment.
[1:44:43] There's no proposed uses at this time.
[1:44:45] And that as we move forward, if a site plan or things like that
[1:44:48] move forward, then this would be something that could be visited at that time
[1:44:52] And again, the w item w was also the location of test pits.
[1:44:57] Pits for septic reserve again.
[1:44:59] Wasn't appropriate for what we were doing now for the, the lot line adjustment
[1:45:04] That's it now I'll just add, we've never.
[1:45:07] Required that for any lot money adjustments since I've been here.
[1:45:10] So nor have we ever required a waiver from those.
[1:45:15] So, yeah, if it makes sense, I can just either leave the, we can
[1:45:18] leave the waivers in or just, I can just pull 'em and if they're
[1:45:21] not, well, I think, yeah.
[1:45:23] They're in there.
[1:45:23] I think we just said it.
[1:45:25] I mean, if they, if the plaintiff board agrees, they're basically withdrawn and they're
[1:45:28] not withdrawn in considering.
[1:45:29] Yeah.
[1:45:29] Okay.
[1:45:30] They've never asked for before, so I don't know why they would now.
[1:45:33] Beyond that there's nothing really exciting about my presentation.
[1:45:36] We're just flipping three acres.
[1:45:39] To get, I, I'm not sure what happened.
[1:45:40] Nine was put in where.
[1:45:43] This, this usual, this 33 acres was landmark part of,
[1:45:47] but this is a good time to address it.
[1:45:49] And I know that.
[1:45:51] The applicant is also working with
[1:45:53] D O T.
[1:45:55] T on there's a limited access right away along haul.
[1:45:57] So they're working with D O T to, to on an agreement for that
[1:46:00] as well.
[1:46:01] Mm-hmm
[1:46:04] any questions for the applicant.
[1:46:08] I only, no, I'm good.
[1:46:09] Any members of the public want to speak?
[1:46:12] Bring it back to the board.
[1:46:13] He's getting punchy.
[1:46:14] .
[1:46:16] Mr Sharples, do you have any.
[1:46:18] Suggested conditions of approval.
[1:46:19] Mm-hmm yes, I do.
[1:46:21] You would you like to hear them?
[1:46:23] Mm-hmm it would be number one, the subdivision.
[1:46:26] Plan shall be submitted as a shape file or CAD file in New Hampshire state
[1:46:30] plane.
[1:46:31] Coordinates to the satisfaction of the town planner and to all monumentation shall be
[1:46:35] set in accordance with nine.
[1:46:37] Section 9.25 of the extra site plan, review and subdivision regulations.
[1:46:46] Those both sound appropriate to us.
[1:46:48] Okay.
[1:46:49] I just need to get the number.
[1:46:50] There we go.
[1:46:55] Are you ready for, I'm gonna give this a shot that 26 15 is so
[1:46:59] over to the other side.
[1:47:00] So I am going to move that the request for is it van asked
[1:47:06] VHP, but vans close enough last time.
[1:47:08] Yep.
[1:47:08] Hagan.
[1:47:09] Brusk Inc.
[1:47:11] On behalf of S P.
[1:47:13] New NHX exit or LLC for lot line adjustment.
[1:47:17] To transfer approximately 3.9.
[1:47:20] Acres.
[1:47:21] Oh, oh, nine 3.009.
[1:47:24] Thank you.
[1:47:27] Acres from Matt, Matt, 66 wa one owned by Palmer's cart, Inc. To map
[1:47:33] 66 lot, two.
[1:47:36] Owned by north country, trustee.
[1:47:38] Be approved, approved with the conditions as stated by our town planner, Dave Sharples
[1:47:44] Mm-hmm
[1:47:47] did we get everything?
[1:47:48] Mm-hmm I think so.
[1:47:50] Did we get a second?
[1:47:52] Second.
[1:47:54] Any discussion.
[1:47:58] Seek a vote those in favor.
[1:48:00] Aye.
[1:48:00] Aye.
[1:48:00] Aye.
[1:48:02] Abs extensions.
[1:48:03] Posed
[1:48:04] unanimously passed.
[1:48:06] Congratulations.
[1:48:07] Thank you.
[1:48:08] Thank you for your brevity.
[1:48:11] Yes.
[1:48:12] And thank you for.
[1:48:13] The the
[1:48:16] spam attempt
[1:48:17] for bringing ups important.
[1:48:21] All right.
[1:48:21] Moving through our agenda.
[1:48:24] Master plan discussion.
[1:48:26] Dave, do you want to discuss anything from the master plan?
[1:48:30] O P C
[1:48:32] well, we held a meeting
[1:48:33] the other day.
[1:48:35] I talked about a number of items.
[1:48:36] One of the worth mentioning was the.
[1:48:39] Was starting that time of year again, we're looking at possible zoning amendments to
[1:48:43] the upcoming.
[1:48:45] March election, but it's, you know, takes a few months.
[1:48:47] So I asked the board members if they had anything, you know, start thinking
[1:48:52] about it, but I'll also ask everyone.
[1:48:54] Here.
[1:48:54] If you have any.
[1:48:56] Suggestions on zoning amendments,
[1:48:58] zoning changes are end of the purview of the planning board.
[1:49:01] So if you have any issue, any of the zoning member amendments,
[1:49:04] amendments.It's good to kind of flesh those out.
[1:49:07] Maybe, you know, early
[1:49:10] to get them, you know,
[1:49:13] probably in a form you'd want to look at, you know, maybe a November
[1:49:15] hearing December.
[1:49:17] And then move them forward to, to the warrant quickly.
[1:49:20] Which is coming up quickly.
[1:49:21] So.
[1:49:23] That's all I have, I guess the other part.
[1:49:25] Well,
[1:49:26] you were here and I'm here and he's here.
[1:49:29] Scheduling.
[1:49:29] Why don't we reschedule that?
[1:49:30] Good idea.
[1:49:32] Do you want to do it the 22nd at eight?
[1:49:35] That's the October 22nd.
[1:49:37] Of the meeting.
[1:49:38] I can do it.
[1:49:40] David.
[1:49:40] Yep.
[1:49:41] Let's do that.
[1:49:42] There you go.
[1:49:44] I'll send an email out to Marty.
[1:49:45] Do you wanna send an email out?
[1:49:46] Sure.
[1:49:46] Okay.
[1:49:47] Yeah.
[1:49:47] Include Ashley on that too.
[1:49:48] Yep.
[1:49:52] And
[1:49:55] I guess I'll bring this up.
[1:49:56] So.
[1:49:58] One of our
[1:50:00] full-time plaintiff board members.
[1:50:03] John Gruder has been dealing with some illness, which he's fine with me talking
[1:50:07] about.
[1:50:07] I've talked to him.
[1:50:09] And he's
[1:50:11] he's
[1:50:13] considering a leave of absence from the board because of that, it's nothing life-threatening
[1:50:18] but it's been ongoing.
[1:50:20] And it's not determined what he's dealing with.
[1:50:22] So.
[1:50:23] Is there an avenue for that Dave?
[1:50:24] Or is it just.
[1:50:26] We just
[1:50:27] moved forward as we know why he is not here, we don't make a
[1:50:30] big deal of it.
[1:50:30] And alternate gets activated and we stay pat.
[1:50:34] Is that yeah.
[1:50:35] After what we do come manager, because we are trying to.
[1:50:39] I yeah, the, the
[1:50:41] the select board has the authority to remove members.
[1:50:44] Yeah.
[1:50:44] If they do, if they fall below a 60% attendance threshold.
[1:50:48] Sure.
[1:50:49] So.
[1:50:49] We don't control that.
[1:50:50] Yeah.
[1:50:52] This that's up to the select board.
[1:50:54] But if John continues not to show up, like that was another, I I've
[1:50:59] had members do that since you've been here.
[1:51:01] Yeah.
[1:51:02] It's just, you know, you deal with who you have and you appoint more
[1:51:05] alternates to the position.
[1:51:07] Yeah, you can.
[1:51:07] I don't think there's any mechanism that I'm aware of that you can like
[1:51:10] Appoint an alternate as a regular member in the interim or something like that
[1:51:14] Okay.
[1:51:14] I know you just.
[1:51:16] We have a leave of absence policy.
[1:51:17] I don't know, but I'm gonna you to town manager in the morning.
[1:51:20] I can't let me, yeah, let me ask and then I can.
[1:51:23] Yeah, you'll be there too, right?
[1:51:25] Yeah.
[1:51:25] I don't think you'll have anything in your planning board rules, but we, we
[1:51:28] might have.
[1:51:28] Okay.
[1:51:29] I mean, and I don't know.
[1:51:31] But your time has the select board removed anybody because of attendance.
[1:51:35] Oh,
[1:51:36] I, not that I'm aware of, but yeah, me neither.
[1:51:38] I think it, maybe, maybe somebody talked somebody or something.
[1:51:41] There have been people coming on and off, but not a lot.
[1:51:43] We haven't had no, generally we haven't had a lot of attendance issues.
[1:51:46] Right.
[1:51:46] And, and they usually related to health and people are, you know, understanding, understanding
[1:51:52] Yes.
[1:51:52] As you know, in general, we're having quorum issues and through no fault of
[1:51:55] anyone volunteering, it just happens.
[1:51:57] Right.
[1:51:58] So we're reevaluating.
[1:52:00] What we have going on and.
[1:52:02] See what our options are to maybe consolidate mm-hmm and things like that
[1:52:06] But yeah, we, we.
[1:52:08] Way too many meetings are being canceled at the last minute.
[1:52:11] So people are coming and they can't.
[1:52:14] Can't actively do anything.
[1:52:14] Yeah.
[1:52:15] So it's being looked at, so I don't wanna say we don't.
[1:52:19] Don't
[1:52:20] follow our policies on that.
[1:52:22] Right now.
[1:52:23] Okay.
[1:52:24] It's coming up soon.
[1:52:25] Okay.
[1:52:25] I mean, I, I.
[1:52:27] Was bringing that up to try to be proactive.
[1:52:30] So.
[1:52:31] I think that John is.
[1:52:33] Wants to continue.
[1:52:35] He was, did participate.
[1:52:38] In the master plan.
[1:52:39] Mm-hmm .
[1:52:41] Meeting yesterday.
[1:52:44] And, you know, he's just dealing with some health stuff, so I'll move.
[1:52:47] No, I, and this is the time to bring it up because we're going
[1:52:50] to be reevaluating.
[1:52:51] So we can use this as a.
[1:52:54] An example of something to look at.
[1:52:55] Yeah.
[1:52:55] Yeah.
[1:52:56] It is a good thing to understand, at least yeah.
[1:52:57] Especially health issues, you know, mm-hmm , I mean,
[1:53:01] all right next.
[1:53:02] So the land use regulation review.
[1:53:05] I think Dave kind of brought that up field modifications, none requested nor any
[1:53:09] bonds of credit.
[1:53:11] Okay.
[1:53:12] That's it for our agenda.
[1:53:13] Would you like the motion to adjourn?
[1:53:15] Good.
[1:53:15] I've moved to adjourn.
[1:53:16] Mm-hmm .
[1:53:17] So moved
[1:53:18] all in favor.
[1:53:20] Aye.
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