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- I like to welcome to the exit planning board meeting

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of Thursday, September 24th, 2026 at 7:00 PM

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in the NOAC room of the town office building

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located 10 Front Street exit New Hampshire.

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To consider the following,

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however, we will first start off by introducing the board

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and I'm Langdon Plummer, the chair of the board.

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And Aaron Brown, left Vice Chair Quinn, English regular

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- Member, Nancy Bees, select Board Representative

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- Dean Hubbard. Alternate.

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- Elaine Hayes. Alternate. - Jen Marel.

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- Marty Kennedy. - Ryan Kelly, alternate.

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- Okay, I'm gonna start off

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with a little board business this evening.

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And John is not with us this evening.

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He has medical issues he's dealing with

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and he's very interested in

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continuing his service on the board.

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So there's three options here. This is for board discussion.

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I'll tell you what I'm talking about and we can discuss it

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and even agree or disagree.

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One would be a leave of absence that's not allowed in, in,

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in that town of Exeter.

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That also applies to the select board is likely.

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So that's not an option really.

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A second would be have Dean our most

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experienced alternate sit in

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and while he, while John takes the place of the alternate.

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That would require, as I understand from Dave, that

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that would require a board, the chairperson's,

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excuse me, the select select board.

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Thank you. Action.

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The third option is that I would

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Have an appointment person be appointed an alternate

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appointed while he's absent.

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So he'd be appointed in his absence.

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I would try to keep in, in that process.

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I'm not sure just how it's gonna work out,

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but have, if I have an alternate on case 3, 8, 6, whatever,

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I'd like to try to keep them on there.

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But I also wanna work by alternating my alternates.

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So here that's, at any rate, I think, I think

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that's the best option.

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I think it's a smoothest option to allow us to go ahead and,

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and continue our business in that fashion.

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So, any comments, discussion, thoughts?

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Am I right, wrong or otherwise?

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- So just to clarify, the option

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that you're suggesting is basically at every meeting

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- I appoint - You are appointing and all similar.

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That's kind of what we do.

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- Yep. - Just continuing staying the course. Yep.

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Yeah, that seems to make sense. Versus

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- Dean just being the standard full-time member.

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- Excuse me. - Versus Dean being

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the full-time member all the time

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- Until, until John comes back. Yeah.

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- Just wanted - To clarify. I don't want

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the other A to sit here.

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Who knows? I mean, time will tell.

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- So out of curiosity, - History's a great teacher.

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- Could it be that you temporarily assign, you know,

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just like we do normally an alternate to fill in,

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but then have the select four,

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just if there's not knowing what's going on with John,

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not wanting to ask those questions.

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But could the select board,

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because if it would require the select board, it would have

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to be at the next select board meeting.

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But could Dean, if he were willing to do so, have a

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permanent position till John came back as opposed to

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rotating people through?

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That's an option. That's an option.

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Just we would still be rotating

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alternates for other positions.

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But for that position,

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maybe having somebody

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solidly in there. Do you follow what I'm saying?

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- Yeah, that's option two. Two.

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- Right. But then with the idea that

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tonight you just are gonna appoint Dean,

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probably, or maybe not.

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- Well, I kind like my plan

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because it keeps all of you alternates.

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Okay. Alternating,

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- Okay.

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- If that makes any sense in the world of planning board. So

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- Yeah. Okay.

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- Alright. That's, that's how we'll proceed. Thank you.

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Next we have some minutes to approve August

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oh, 27th

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and then the 10th of September.

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Any comments on, on the minutes of August 27th?

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- I have, I think I have two. Okay.

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One on page four,

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line 1 67.

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I, I think this, this is,

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this whole paragraph is attorney LTA was

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kinda explaining his position.

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It says here that he said if there is to be a restaurant,

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they would need to come back.

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That's not what he said.

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He, what he said was, if, if there was a change in use,

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they would need to come back.

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- Be a change of use. Yes. Right.

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Okay.

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- One, one other. On page seven,

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- Page seven, - Line 2 81.

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On the vote it says that I abstained.

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I didn't abstain, I voted no.

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- Say that again. - The, the vote on it says

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that I abstained.

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Yes. I didn't abstain. I voted no on that.

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- You voted no. Okay. You, - That's

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- It.

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I remember that.

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- So - Should that be six

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- One?

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So it should read 6 1, 0 6 1 0 1 0. Yeah.

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Anyone else?

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- Mr. Chair? This is minor. Yes. On line 1 24.

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- 1 24 minor.

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- Actually think Nancy was the one

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who asked about the light trespass

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and if it would had been taken care of.

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- Are you on page three? Yes. 1, 2, 4.

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Mr. Smith indicated need.

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- So how should - It waiver for grading within? How should

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- It read?

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- Read? I have to read. She's asked because, oh,

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- Okay.

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- You said 1, 2, 4. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You are. Okay.

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Mr. Smith indicated need for waiver for grading within.

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- It's not a big deal, but I, I don't,

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I don't think I was the one

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- Asked.

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I think you asked. I asked it. So sorry.

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You wanna do it or you want me to go ahead?

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Okay, so line 1, 2, 4.

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It it, second sentence, it starts with Ms. English asked

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if light tr, and it should be that Ms.

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Belanger asked that

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and it was, it was,

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I think Mr. Smith had indicated there was no change.

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Right? The light trespass was there.

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They asked for a waiver, they fixed it.

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I asked if it was still fixed.

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If there was any, yep, that's, I remember.

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So instead of on line 25 saying Ms.

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Belanger indicated no change, then it would be I Mr. Smith.

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- Okay. - Sorry. Thanks. Perfect.

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- You're welcome. - Do I have a motion?

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- I, I have. Okay. Oh, I think I just got ink all over me.

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I have one. So on line 1 6 9. Oh

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- Yes.

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- Page four of 10. The last sentence.

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This is a rote process. I think it should be written

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- Just a minute. 1, 6 4.

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- Is that a term I'm unfamiliar with?

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- I wrote - It would be ROTE if it's, if it's,

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it's not WI,

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- I checked the tape and that's what he said.

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- I'm not sure. So ROTE.

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And I'm just not familiar with the term. Yeah.

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So we should probably take off the W.

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Remove the W. And

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- What line are you on?

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- 1 69. - The last sentence. 1 69 Process one

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- 60.

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- Remove the W. - Okay.

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- Okay. - And then on line 2, 9 9 7.

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Yes. Brentwood Drive should say Brentwood

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Road. And that's all I have.

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- Okay. - I

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think came again.

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- Mayor, is there a motion - I move

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that the draft minutes from our

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August 27th, 2026 meeting as amended.

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- Be - Approved. Be approved.

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- Second - Move and seconded.

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A voice vote will be appropriate.

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Those in favor, please indicate, wait a minute,

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Dean. You're acting tonight.

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- Okay. - Alright.

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Those in favor please indicate by saying aye. Aye. Opposed?

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Nays? Ayes have it abstain. Oh, board abstention.

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- Alright, - Sorry.

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- Now we move to the oh,

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minutes of September 10th, our last meeting.

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And probably Aaron,

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you were there and I wasn't.

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- I know I have a correction Mr. Chair,

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- That's, so I abstain.

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- I have a correction. Go ahead.

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On line 21 and 22, I can't make a motion

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and second the motion.

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So I'm not sure who did what.

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- You didn't second the motion. Okay.

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- It's usually and I, - Yeah. Acting chair so

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- We can, - Barbara can't answer that.

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Does anybody wanna fess up to seconding that motion?

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- I'll, I will. - Okay.

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- Because it usually we sit

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next to each other and we do that.

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So I'm fine with that answer.

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- Okay. Thank - You.

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- All right. - Opposite.

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- Is that it? I have one. I'm good. I'm good. Oh, I'm sorry.

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Okay, so I, on line 1 65, that's page four seven.

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Noted. Portsmouth Ave is, it says being upgraded

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but it, I said it's in the CIP,

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which is our capital improvement plan to be updated

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and I should have added if the voter's

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approve, but I didn't say that.

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- Okay,

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- Got it.

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- That's it for me. I move

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to accept the September 10th, 2026

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draft meeting minutes as amended.

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- Okay, - Second

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- You Gwen.

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That's me. Thank you. That's me. Okay, got it.

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- That's aye. Alright,

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- Those in favor please.

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Enc keep saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstention.

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I abstain the pass. Thank you.

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Okay.

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First order of business.

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We have a request by the extra Presbyter church

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for an extension.

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Extension of the site plan review approval 73

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water Winter Street tax map 73 lot 1 43.

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Planning board case number 25 dash six

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I. Oh

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- Good.

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- Do we need you, you wish to speak to this?

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- Yeah, we can just give a quick Okay. Overview.

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Paige Libby with Jones and Beach Engineers

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for the record here with Skip Phelps from

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Exeter Presbyterian Church.

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They have planned on starting construction next spring

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and our LA our original approval was

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of in September of last year.

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We did come back in July of this year

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and get the project basically reapproved but

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because the original approval was last September,

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we're just here to request a one year extension so

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that they can get started in the spring.

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- That's reasonable. Any questions

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the board would have for that?

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Well I would like for a motion then

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now we'll all speak at once.

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- Okay. - I wanna say, John, how about a motion?

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- I can make a motion. I move,

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hold on, I gotta go back to the thing.

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Oh, thank you. I move that

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the extension request for site plan approval for one year

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for the 73 Winter Street project tax map.

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73 lot 1 43. Where's the project number?

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It's not on here. Ah,

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planning board case number 25 dash six B.

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Approved or be extended for one. I'm messing this up.

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Be extended for one year.

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- This is a tough one. - Yeah. To September, 2026.

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- Do - We have to have an actual date?

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- September 25th? Yeah. - Okay. It's, sorry.

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- September 25th. - 20 20, 27.

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- Sorry, my please. - Yes, thank we'll second that.

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- Okay, moved and seconded.

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Let's do a voice vote on this one please.

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I think that's adequate. So those in favor

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please indicate you saying aye.

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Aye. Aye. Opposed?

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The ayes have it, so be it. You're all set.

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Thank you for the detail and good

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- Luck.

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Thank you. See you.

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- Alright,

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Next order of business.

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I'm gonna move, adjust the agenda slightly

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to the planning board case.

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26 dash 16.

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Peter A. Smith revocable trust

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and we've, I, my judgment is not ready to be heard yet.

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It needs to have a land license,

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land survey surveyor stamp on the plan.

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It needs to show note number one states

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that the law is to be serviced by municipal water and sewer.

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Actually cannot allow that at any additional applications

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to connect to our municipal water system at this time.

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Nor can it be approved.

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A preliminary, preliminary application to connect

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that was included in the application.

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Please advise the note that plans show

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that an adequate private water source can be

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provided to service the lot.

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So those in that have not been provided

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- In the septic. You think about the

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- Septic and also in, in

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this is from do Dave Sharples.

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In his conversation with Mr. Smith,

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he indicated the existing dwelling is on a septic.

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So please show that on the plans.

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So there's three things that are missing in order for me

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to open this case.

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So I'm looking for a motion to extend.

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- It's really we haven't accepted yet. Haven't

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- Accepted yet. We haven't

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- Accepted it.

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Really don't even need a motion. You

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- Don't even need a motion unless

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- You want to converse with the a.

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- We'll have, you can do, have

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to get those squared away with you

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- Can, you can talk to them for a second. Yeah,

328
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- Sure.

329
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- Informally. Yeah, sure. Like an informal review.

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Do you have any questions? Do just come to the mic

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and introduce yourself if you have any questions.

332
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Certainly, unfortunately Dave couldn't be here, but, okay.

333
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- All right. Peter Landry,

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Landry surveying, prepared the plans.

335
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Certainly wasn't expecting to have all of that,

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that information done for this meeting.

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And, and in addition to,

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I thought it was the way this letter came across it,

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it looked like there would, we could have possibly

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taken this in and maybe had a conditional approval with

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the minor additions that he's looking for on here.

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I would like to point out though that the septic system

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is shown on the plan

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and that's one of the deficiencies that he's asking for.

345
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- Okay. - Okay. Okay. And again, we're

346
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- Not opening the case.

347
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- I, I don't know how far I can go on this.

348
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It sounds like we're not gonna have a meeting tonight.

349
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- You can, you can get feedback like an informal

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- Review.

351
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Well, again, I get, I I wanted to go through, first of all,

352
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these are Dave's comments as the planner.

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And my experience has been that

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of course the board is the, the active members.

355
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Yeah. So they, they may have additional information Sure.

356
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That they might want to see on the plan.

357
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Now, as for stamps, that's something nowadays, especially

358
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with electronics and back

359
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and forth to make sure you get all the

360
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housekeeping items done.

361
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That it's just typical that every board I go to that,

362
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you know, I've got a wetland scientist stamp I want

363
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to put on the plan that's not on the list,

364
00:23:02,467 --> 00:23:03,734
but we're gonna get that on there.

365
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'cause we've had a certified wetland scientist out there.

366
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And the same with the LAN survey stamp

367
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that's going to be on there.

368
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So again, those are usually something we put on

369
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as a conditional, again, with the monumentation,

370
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I normally will set, come to the board meeting,

371
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discuss the law configuration before I set any monuments.

372
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Yes. And

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of course we don't have any monuments in the ground at this

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point, so we're gonna wanna set those.

375
00:23:28,567 --> 00:23:31,100
But I wanted to at least get the boards I

376
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opinion on this.

377
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There was just like number two was asking about what I meant

378
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by when I added on the checklist, the word known that on

379
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that checklist it was discussing easements.

380
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And I simply wanted to point out

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that I was showing the known easements at

382
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times as certain survey.

383
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We may find an old pass that cuts through a wall. Yep.

384
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And we just don't know what any is.

385
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Really nothing written, no history

386
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or anything on it may just be a

387
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pass a path through the wall.

388
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And I didn't want anybody to think that I was maybe,

389
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and we do have that in this case.

390
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So I didn't want anybody to think that

391
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that might have been an easement of sorts.

392
00:24:12,667 --> 00:24:14,734
We're showing known easements, easements

393
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that are and are written in a deed.

394
00:24:16,066 --> 00:24:18,066
We've gone through all the deeds they have pointed out

395
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and reference and any apparent easement,

396
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the ones you see on the right of way,

397
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they're all out into the town right away.

398
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They're all shown. There're some are close to the lot line,

399
00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:32,066
but any what that word known was, was meant for was just

400
00:24:32,066 --> 00:24:35,500
to point out, no easements obviously can't be responsible

401
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for something unknown or unwritten.

402
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,634
Yep. And of course, had we, if there was a driveway running

403
00:24:41,634 --> 00:24:44,533
through our property without an easement, we would've shown

404
00:24:44,533 --> 00:24:45,934
that and it would've been addressed.

405
00:24:46,333 --> 00:24:48,567
So that, that's, I wanted to clarify that.

406
00:24:48,867 --> 00:24:51,066
So technically we may be just down to the two,

407
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two items on here.

408
00:24:53,133 --> 00:24:54,333
The stamps that I mentioned

409
00:24:54,934 --> 00:24:59,734
and the note, which, you know, I don't know,

410
00:25:00,066 --> 00:25:01,100
it's, it's been a while.

411
00:25:01,133 --> 00:25:03,367
I, I did look on the town's website.

412
00:25:03,834 --> 00:25:08,500
I got a call, I think it was the first of the month

413
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and it's, it was six 30 at night, it said, town of Exeter.

414
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,100
And I'm like, oh my God, I've never had

415
00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:14,133
a call from a town of Exeter.

416
00:25:14,133 --> 00:25:16,333
It's six 30, any town, it's six 30 at night

417
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,867
and the way the world is now.

418
00:25:18,867 --> 00:25:20,133
I thought, man, I'm gonna get scammed.

419
00:25:20,133 --> 00:25:23,467
So I didn't answer it. And five minutes later I got a call

420
00:25:23,467 --> 00:25:26,033
from Mr. Smith who got the same call from the town telling

421
00:25:26,033 --> 00:25:27,834
me that there was a problem with the water.

422
00:25:28,634 --> 00:25:30,100
Okay. So I, we first,

423
00:25:30,033 --> 00:25:32,734
we put the application in in August 18th

424
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and we heard about on, no on September 1st about

425
00:25:37,033 --> 00:25:38,500
a potential moratorium.

426
00:25:38,934 --> 00:25:40,033
And at a quick glance,

427
00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:43,033
I was down coming back from Kensington of about a month ago.

428
00:25:43,033 --> 00:25:44,233
And I, off the corner of my eye,

429
00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:46,467
I saw something on Drink water road

430
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:49,634
before I was noticed of, of, of, there was no water,

431
00:25:49,634 --> 00:25:53,000
but some, something about looking for water, maybe on looks,

432
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,100
I think that's academy land, but looking for water source.

433
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,834
So it was sort of going through, man.

434
00:25:57,834 --> 00:25:59,367
So I got on the official town website

435
00:25:59,367 --> 00:26:00,467
to find some information

436
00:26:01,233 --> 00:26:04,066
and I couldn't find anything on about,

437
00:26:04,033 --> 00:26:06,934
on the 1st of September about the moratorium.

438
00:26:07,667 --> 00:26:10,567
So I, and the reason is, is so I could advise my client,

439
00:26:12,133 --> 00:26:13,333
is it gonna be a year?

440
00:26:13,467 --> 00:26:14,567
Is it gonna be 10 years?

441
00:26:14,934 --> 00:26:16,066
How is this, how long is this going?

442
00:26:16,066 --> 00:26:18,467
Because this note isn't saying we're

443
00:26:18,467 --> 00:26:19,500
gonna get hooked up to water.

444
00:26:19,567 --> 00:26:23,767
It's just saying vis the, my notes was simple lot was going

445
00:26:23,767 --> 00:26:25,233
to be hooked up town, Watertown sewer.

446
00:26:25,900 --> 00:26:29,533
Dave's suggestion is to rewrite that to, you know,

447
00:26:29,567 --> 00:26:33,100
put on notice to the client that the water's not available

448
00:26:33,934 --> 00:26:35,100
tomorrow, let say,

449
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,533
or it could be a while Now we were

450
00:26:37,533 --> 00:26:39,066
told verbally it could be a year.

451
00:26:39,834 --> 00:26:42,367
But I don't know. So I think what,

452
00:26:42,367 --> 00:26:44,100
what this whole note is about is

453
00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:45,700
to put the client on notice.

454
00:26:45,767 --> 00:26:48,700
That if you want to get this plan approved, which we do

455
00:26:48,734 --> 00:26:51,867
as a, as a lot and you wanna build

456
00:26:51,867 --> 00:26:54,467
before the water is available, you simply have

457
00:26:54,467 --> 00:26:56,000
to find an alternative water source.

458
00:26:56,033 --> 00:26:58,333
Is really all this note is saying typically a

459
00:26:58,333 --> 00:26:59,533
well would, would, would do it.

460
00:27:00,133 --> 00:27:02,033
And we have no problem putting that on here.

461
00:27:03,266 --> 00:27:06,100
So I had, and again, I wasn't crystal clear

462
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:08,033
because of the way it's mentioned on the bottom

463
00:27:08,033 --> 00:27:09,634
here, plaintiff board motion.

464
00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:12,567
So I thought I could come in, have this discussion,

465
00:27:13,133 --> 00:27:14,634
walk away with the conditional approval.

466
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:15,767
That's my, my fault.

467
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:18,000
And I, you know, with the client and all,

468
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,000
because I could have made these changes.

469
00:27:21,166 --> 00:27:23,734
We could have put 'em, you know, I got this last I think on

470
00:27:23,734 --> 00:27:24,934
the eight 16th.

471
00:27:24,934 --> 00:27:27,533
So I had time, I had to go over it with the client,

472
00:27:27,533 --> 00:27:29,100
could have put it on here, emailed it,

473
00:27:29,266 --> 00:27:31,300
and then all of the plans that you guys asked

474
00:27:31,300 --> 00:27:33,700
for at the beginning on in August would be moot.

475
00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:36,734
All the ones that you looked at wouldn't be the,

476
00:27:36,834 --> 00:27:39,033
the u the plan I submitted originally.

477
00:27:39,033 --> 00:27:42,634
Because now you've got this plan, which I wasn't,

478
00:27:42,734 --> 00:27:44,567
I scratched my head and go, do I gotta make new paper

479
00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:45,934
prints and bring 'em in?

480
00:27:45,934 --> 00:27:49,033
Can I do this electronically? You know, what do I gotta do?

481
00:27:49,033 --> 00:27:50,266
I'd rather discuss this.

482
00:27:50,467 --> 00:27:53,567
Two more items might come up, one or two might go off.

483
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:56,700
And I thought why can't we just, I don't know the history

484
00:27:56,700 --> 00:27:59,300
of this town, but why couldn't we just do this in a,

485
00:27:59,333 --> 00:28:00,634
as a conditional approval?

486
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,834
And that's what we were looking for. Yeah. Okay.

487
00:28:03,834 --> 00:28:06,767
For tonight. So I'm hearing now that I gotta make,

488
00:28:07,734 --> 00:28:11,033
maybe I need to talk to Dave and, and, and clarify this.

489
00:28:11,634 --> 00:28:13,100
Do it. I mean, talk to Dave.

490
00:28:13,233 --> 00:28:15,333
I didn't think he, maybe he has more, I,

491
00:28:15,467 --> 00:28:18,033
I guess I thought the, the board would make the decisions

492
00:28:18,133 --> 00:28:22,100
but based on Dave's recommendations, which are here.

493
00:28:22,166 --> 00:28:24,500
Yeah. That's sort of been the way I've done it for years.

494
00:28:25,367 --> 00:28:28,734
And I didn't want to just jump to making these, you know,

495
00:28:28,734 --> 00:28:31,033
without the board having some input.

496
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:33,367
I don't know if that makes sense, but

497
00:28:33,367 --> 00:28:34,867
that's just the way I've always done it.

498
00:28:35,033 --> 00:28:37,467
Yeah. Well but appreciate now

499
00:28:37,467 --> 00:28:38,533
you want me to make the changes.

500
00:28:38,867 --> 00:28:40,700
Make the changes please. Just so it's clear. Yep.

501
00:28:41,133 --> 00:28:43,266
And it sounds like I'm coming back. Check, check with Dave.

502
00:28:43,266 --> 00:28:44,700
Please check with Dave. Yep.

503
00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:47,533
Clarify a couple of things, which will, was he going to,

504
00:28:47,667 --> 00:28:49,266
okay, I'll assume he'll make another a

505
00:28:49,266 --> 00:28:50,367
comment after I speak with him.

506
00:28:50,667 --> 00:28:52,467
We'll probably drop a couple of things,

507
00:28:52,467 --> 00:28:54,133
maybe add a few things, I'm not sure.

508
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:57,233
Oh. And then we will address the note changes.

509
00:28:57,934 --> 00:29:00,066
He'll then have a electronic plan.

510
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:01,700
You don't need this in paper, I presume.

511
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,500
'cause I handed in a lot of oversized paper copies

512
00:29:05,133 --> 00:29:08,734
that now are, I don't even know where they are, but, so,

513
00:29:09,667 --> 00:29:11,100
and you've got the smaller ones

514
00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:14,066
and now you're doing, if you don't need paper, you'll do all

515
00:29:14,066 --> 00:29:16,734
of this electronically is what I'm hearing these changes.

516
00:29:17,033 --> 00:29:20,133
Alright. Check with Dave. All right. Alright.

517
00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:22,734
- So the septic system you refer

518
00:29:22,734 --> 00:29:25,266
to is on I think the second page.

519
00:29:25,367 --> 00:29:28,367
- Yes, it is. - Probably gonna want more detail

520
00:29:28,533 --> 00:29:29,767
than what that says.

521
00:29:30,066 --> 00:29:32,000
Like what it just says. Septic system.

522
00:29:33,066 --> 00:29:35,033
- Yeah. That's what - It Well, well I know.

523
00:29:35,033 --> 00:29:37,767
I want to know more about what it is. What's a septic

524
00:29:37,767 --> 00:29:38,767
- System?

525
00:29:38,767 --> 00:29:39,066
I think you and the owners do this. It

526
00:29:39,066 --> 00:29:40,634
- Be a tank and it could - Be a,

527
00:29:41,166 --> 00:29:42,634
- It could be whatever somebody defines

528
00:29:42,634 --> 00:29:44,333
as septic system. We need more information.

529
00:29:44,567 --> 00:29:47,367
- This could be, - You can provide whatever

530
00:29:47,367 --> 00:29:48,367
- You like, - Three, five gallon drugs.

531
00:29:48,467 --> 00:29:49,867
I'm not gonna be happy with the words

532
00:29:49,867 --> 00:29:51,333
that just says septic system. Well,

533
00:29:51,333 --> 00:29:52,333
- I don't know what else we could do.

534
00:29:52,634 --> 00:29:53,867
Okay. See it. I'm just wondering.

535
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,934
I mean, I'll talk to Dave about that.

536
00:29:56,033 --> 00:29:58,700
I didn't know he, if I, I'm, I guess I came to the point

537
00:29:58,700 --> 00:29:59,734
that he didn't see it.

538
00:30:00,033 --> 00:30:02,367
'cause he said it wasn't on the plan, but he saw it.

539
00:30:02,367 --> 00:30:04,867
But now he wants, instead of an X, he wants a rectangle.

540
00:30:05,767 --> 00:30:07,033
- I think we want more detail on

541
00:30:07,033 --> 00:30:09,567
what a septic tank system is on an existing lot

542
00:30:09,567 --> 00:30:11,767
that we're being asked to approve a subdivision of.

543
00:30:14,033 --> 00:30:15,567
- I'll do the best I can, but I'm not sure.

544
00:30:15,567 --> 00:30:18,266
Sure there's any more info somewhere. It's a very old house.

545
00:30:18,567 --> 00:30:19,734
Well it could be a very old

546
00:30:19,867 --> 00:30:21,467
- Septic, it could be a very inadequate septic

547
00:30:21,467 --> 00:30:22,533
system that's existing.

548
00:30:22,900 --> 00:30:25,100
And you're asking to subdivide the property. That's

549
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:26,100
- Why we missed that.

550
00:30:26,133 --> 00:30:30,000
Is that it? Well, okay, it's town sewer up front.

551
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:31,233
But you start tying into it.

552
00:30:31,567 --> 00:30:32,867
- I, if you're gonna tie into town sewer,

553
00:30:32,867 --> 00:30:35,266
then you should indicate that then you don't have

554
00:30:35,266 --> 00:30:36,533
to indicate the septic.

555
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,066
But if you're gonna ask us to approve a subdivision

556
00:30:39,066 --> 00:30:42,100
with a new lot, we need to approve a lot

557
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:44,066
that's gonna function properly in the town.

558
00:30:45,133 --> 00:30:47,867
Yeah. And if it's an inadequate existing septic system,

559
00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:50,700
we would be remiss our duties if we approved it further

560
00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:52,233
subdivision of the property.

561
00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:55,000
If the existing structure

562
00:30:55,033 --> 00:30:56,100
- I'll the best I can on that.

563
00:30:56,033 --> 00:30:58,767
- Well it's not that hard to do really.

564
00:30:58,767 --> 00:30:59,867
You have to do some work. You

565
00:30:59,867 --> 00:31:00,934
have to determine what's there.

566
00:31:00,934 --> 00:31:02,300
When someone buys a home, every time

567
00:31:02,533 --> 00:31:03,834
that I've been experienced with,

568
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:06,233
they check out the septic system, they see what's there.

569
00:31:07,033 --> 00:31:08,467
They find out if it's adequate or not.

570
00:31:09,634 --> 00:31:11,000
It's the same thing when you subdivide.

571
00:31:15,066 --> 00:31:16,066
I, I would think Dave would probably

572
00:31:16,066 --> 00:31:17,233
help guide you through most of this.

573
00:31:17,266 --> 00:31:19,100
Our typical processes you come in

574
00:31:19,133 --> 00:31:20,834
and most of these type of Yep.

575
00:31:22,367 --> 00:31:25,233
Situations. It's a one meeting show.

576
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:27,000
So I think what he's trying

577
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,867
to give you is a list to get through this in one meeting.

578
00:31:30,166 --> 00:31:31,233
- Well right. I think, yeah,

579
00:31:31,834 --> 00:31:33,000
- I think that's what he's trying to do.

580
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,066
Yep. We don't normally go very far with one lot subdivision.

581
00:31:37,066 --> 00:31:39,000
Usually if we have all the information we need

582
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,100
to make a decision, we make the decision

583
00:31:41,133 --> 00:31:43,300
and you get your approval typically that night.

584
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:46,100
So.

585
00:31:47,467 --> 00:31:50,100
- So you want a mile hour that night or just bring Myer

586
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:51,100
- In?

587
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:52,133
I wouldn't, I wouldn't make a mile hour without an approval.

588
00:31:52,166 --> 00:31:53,166
But that's your decision.

589
00:31:56,533 --> 00:31:59,100
- Okay. So I guess I got my marching orders.

590
00:31:59,667 --> 00:32:01,634
We're thank you for your time. Thank you for

591
00:32:01,634 --> 00:32:03,000
- Coming this - Evening. Thank you.

592
00:32:03,367 --> 00:32:06,033
- We'll get it squared away. Thank you very much. Come back.

593
00:32:11,133 --> 00:32:12,000
- You need to, you're gonna have to go

594
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,333
to the mic and identify yourself.

595
00:32:13,367 --> 00:32:14,367
Sir.

596
00:32:15,567 --> 00:32:17,467
- We haven't - Opened the case. Well we haven't but

597
00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:19,634
- Whatever. I mean you opened it up.

598
00:32:19,634 --> 00:32:21,367
- Sorry, it's not open. This is informal.

599
00:32:21,734 --> 00:32:23,367
Well it's not accepted, it's not open.

600
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:25,133
Is an informal discussion.

601
00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:27,934
- 1 29 High Street. If its not what?

602
00:32:27,934 --> 00:32:29,867
It's not what your name it not connect. Peter Hutton.

603
00:32:29,934 --> 00:32:31,033
1 29 High Street.

604
00:32:32,467 --> 00:32:34,533
- We're not hearing the case sir. What's that?

605
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:36,033
We're not hearing the case either.

606
00:32:36,066 --> 00:32:37,333
- I know, I'm just wanted to make a point.

607
00:32:37,433 --> 00:32:38,934
If there's no municipal water

608
00:32:38,934 --> 00:32:43,100
or sewer minimum mod size is one acre, not 0.78 according to

609
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:44,533
- The - Zoning ordinance. Oh, okay. Thank you.

610
00:32:45,433 --> 00:32:49,300
- So if they're, - We are aware. Thank you. So

611
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:50,634
- Their plan is - Inadequate.

612
00:32:50,834 --> 00:32:52,567
We are aware. Thanks.

613
00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:54,567
- That's why I said it's not ready to be heard. Yep.

614
00:32:54,767 --> 00:32:58,734
- That. - Okay. Let's see. Now

615
00:33:01,266 --> 00:33:02,266
- Reset.

616
00:33:06,734 --> 00:33:08,834
- Next we have continued application

617
00:33:08,834 --> 00:33:12,367
of stone arch development, LLC for lot line adjustment,

618
00:33:12,867 --> 00:33:14,033
a minor subdivision

619
00:33:14,133 --> 00:33:16,233
and a site plan review for redevelopment

620
00:33:16,233 --> 00:33:18,567
of property located at five Brentwood Drive.

621
00:33:19,467 --> 00:33:20,767
The redevelopment will consist

622
00:33:20,767 --> 00:33:23,066
of eight residential condominium units

623
00:33:23,667 --> 00:33:25,033
of single family homes.

624
00:33:25,333 --> 00:33:28,500
Project includes a new roadway, underground utilities

625
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,033
and drainage structures.

626
00:33:30,567 --> 00:33:33,367
Tax map 62 parcel 1 1 1.

627
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:36,934
And is planning Boris case number 26 dash 11.

628
00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:39,233
And gentlemen, are you ready?

629
00:33:41,266 --> 00:33:43,634
- Yes. Good evening. Mr. Chair. Members of the board.

630
00:33:43,867 --> 00:33:48,033
John Lordon with Beals Associates. John O'Neill

631
00:33:48,033 --> 00:33:49,033
- With Stone Notch.

632
00:33:49,834 --> 00:33:52,000
- I very briefly, I don't have a lot to say on this.

633
00:33:53,266 --> 00:33:57,133
We were, we have performed a site walk combination

634
00:33:57,133 --> 00:33:59,867
of the conservation commission and the planning board.

635
00:34:00,433 --> 00:34:02,300
We were before the Conservation commission

636
00:34:02,867 --> 00:34:06,033
where we received a favorable recommendation for approval.

637
00:34:06,734 --> 00:34:10,066
And we were before this board about a month ago.

638
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:14,133
Since that time, we've made some plan changes.

639
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:18,000
Very briefly, the road was changed from a public

640
00:34:18,066 --> 00:34:21,734
to a private road just really to remove some waivers

641
00:34:21,734 --> 00:34:23,066
that were being asked for.

642
00:34:24,634 --> 00:34:27,500
We made some minor landscape and utility revisions.

643
00:34:28,467 --> 00:34:31,734
We also moved all the decks outside of the wetland buffer

644
00:34:32,567 --> 00:34:35,066
and that just really required shifting the buildings

645
00:34:35,367 --> 00:34:38,100
and rotating them just a bit.

646
00:34:40,233 --> 00:34:43,567
And the last thing is that we have addressed all

647
00:34:43,567 --> 00:34:45,100
of Underwood's comments.

648
00:34:45,367 --> 00:34:47,066
We have a letter from them saying

649
00:34:47,066 --> 00:34:48,066
that everything's been addressed.

650
00:34:48,934 --> 00:34:50,567
One thing I do wanna say, my apologies,

651
00:34:51,133 --> 00:34:53,533
is I believe the landscaping plans that were

652
00:34:54,033 --> 00:34:58,233
provided were not updated in the set that was distributed.

653
00:34:58,333 --> 00:35:00,500
So if it's okay, sure. I'd like to just hand out

654
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:02,100
- The updated set.

655
00:35:06,634 --> 00:35:08,033
Yeah, thank you. Thanks.

656
00:35:12,634 --> 00:35:16,567
That's all I had. I have one for Yes, I'll, okay.

657
00:35:26,133 --> 00:35:27,500
Could I have one please? Yeah.

658
00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:32,367
Oh, he's got speed it up brownie. He was holding one back.

659
00:35:32,533 --> 00:35:36,934
I just forgot. Thank you Aaron. Wow.

660
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:40,000
- Vice chair, - Mr. Vice chair.

661
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:41,567
- I just can't hardly get a

662
00:35:43,567 --> 00:35:44,567
- And that's all we had.

663
00:35:44,567 --> 00:35:46,467
We'd be happy to take any questions the board might have.

664
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,934
- Okay, Glen ahead, let's start over with you.

665
00:35:54,567 --> 00:35:57,700
- I've, I've looked at this a dozen times

666
00:35:57,900 --> 00:35:59,000
and I hope I'm wrong,

667
00:35:59,033 --> 00:36:01,000
but on lot number 24,

668
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:07,100
you don't show the 75 foot building wetland buffer.

669
00:36:08,066 --> 00:36:10,233
And I think the house,

670
00:36:10,233 --> 00:36:13,000
the lot 24 is entirely within the buffer.

671
00:36:16,033 --> 00:36:18,467
- It is within the 75 foot buffer. It is.

672
00:36:18,567 --> 00:36:19,700
- It is. So you're,

673
00:36:20,467 --> 00:36:23,033
- Which, which sheet are you looking at in the yield

674
00:36:23,266 --> 00:36:24,266
- In four.

675
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:26,233
Oh, I'm not on the yield plan. I'm on

676
00:36:26,734 --> 00:36:27,734
- Okay.

677
00:36:27,734 --> 00:36:30,867
- The master set. So you don't show the, you don't show the

678
00:36:31,767 --> 00:36:36,033
75 foot buffer on, you show it on lot 14,

679
00:36:36,133 --> 00:36:38,700
but you should don't show it on 24.

680
00:36:39,367 --> 00:36:41,834
- Right? It - So you're gonna build a house in the buffer

681
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,467
- Within that, within the 75 foot buffer. Yes.

682
00:36:45,233 --> 00:36:49,266
- And we're expected to prove that. Yep.

683
00:36:49,266 --> 00:36:51,734
- It's outside of the 40 foot buffer as shown

684
00:36:51,867 --> 00:36:53,066
that wraps around the house.

685
00:36:54,233 --> 00:36:59,066
- But it's in the, it's in the building wetland buffer.

686
00:37:00,066 --> 00:37:01,300
- It is in the 75 foot buffer.

687
00:37:02,333 --> 00:37:04,066
- So the buffer hugs the structure,

688
00:37:05,333 --> 00:37:06,333
- The buffer goes right.

689
00:37:06,433 --> 00:37:10,033
It's right in it. Okay. I mean yeah,

690
00:37:10,066 --> 00:37:12,300
- The 40 foot buffer hugs it, the foot,

691
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:14,000
the 75 foot buffer encompasses It

692
00:37:14,033 --> 00:37:15,033
- Is, it encompasses it.

693
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:15,467
Yeah.

694
00:37:22,066 --> 00:37:24,266
Well I'm, I'm certainly not crazy about that.

695
00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:25,533
I didn't notice it before.

696
00:37:26,433 --> 00:37:28,367
- The pretty unique situation, Gwen,

697
00:37:28,467 --> 00:37:30,533
what happens is we did the wetlands out there

698
00:37:30,567 --> 00:37:32,333
and, huh, just to give a little brief history,

699
00:37:33,433 --> 00:37:35,266
when McCain drive was built,

700
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,567
they were building the apartments out there

701
00:37:37,567 --> 00:37:38,767
and it was a field and the separate

702
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,467
were what they are today.

703
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,333
And they actually put two water services

704
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:46,000
and a force main sewer line out there

705
00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:47,333
to service this in the future.

706
00:37:48,367 --> 00:37:51,500
And because of the, it's a, it's a,

707
00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:52,634
there are no trees out there.

708
00:37:52,767 --> 00:37:54,000
It's a, an open field

709
00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:57,033
and it's unfortunately encumbered by

710
00:37:57,066 --> 00:37:59,233
that little tiny peninsula,

711
00:37:59,367 --> 00:38:01,333
which really wipes out that setback.

712
00:38:01,934 --> 00:38:04,934
So it's really, it's unique. It's a very unique situation.

713
00:38:04,934 --> 00:38:06,033
If it weren't for that little thing,

714
00:38:07,033 --> 00:38:08,734
you'd be, it'd be totally clear. Yeah,

715
00:38:08,734 --> 00:38:09,734
- Of course.

716
00:38:09,734 --> 00:38:11,567
But it's there.

717
00:38:12,867 --> 00:38:15,533
I I don't know how the board feels about it,

718
00:38:15,634 --> 00:38:18,467
but I'm, I'm sensitive to buffers.

719
00:38:22,367 --> 00:38:26,066
- Hmm. - I'm having a hard time following the buffers.

720
00:38:28,066 --> 00:38:29,066
I'm wondering if

721
00:38:30,133 --> 00:38:31,767
- You wanna look at this. Yeah.

722
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:33,133
- Can I look at your, your version?

723
00:38:33,133 --> 00:38:34,033
You got color, you got the nice

724
00:38:34,033 --> 00:38:36,033
- Color. Oh, she's

725
00:38:37,033 --> 00:38:37,033
- Got it.She always does her homework

726
00:38:38,066 --> 00:38:39,700
- In here. She's so good.

727
00:38:40,133 --> 00:38:42,000
- Quite frankly, gr when we did the site walk,

728
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,100
we were in a position where we were looking

729
00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:47,100
for a 50 foot waiver and if we had gotten the 50 foot

730
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:48,867
waiver, we would not be out in that lot at all.

731
00:38:49,266 --> 00:38:50,300
So the decision was made

732
00:38:50,333 --> 00:38:51,767
and it was sort of hinted to us

733
00:38:51,767 --> 00:38:52,834
that it made a little more sense,

734
00:38:52,934 --> 00:38:55,700
but put that second lot out on Mcca versus

735
00:38:56,166 --> 00:38:57,500
going from the 50 foot waiver.

736
00:38:58,100 --> 00:38:59,567
So it was, it was a push and pull

737
00:38:59,867 --> 00:39:01,033
and that was a decision we made.

738
00:39:01,166 --> 00:39:03,567
And we're hoping for your support. It's, it's a field.

739
00:39:03,567 --> 00:39:04,700
It's very unique. It's not

740
00:39:04,734 --> 00:39:06,066
like we're cutting trees to do it.

741
00:39:06,133 --> 00:39:07,867
It's a completely open field

742
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:10,367
and it's been, it's been hay and cutting.

743
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:12,300
It's very good land.

744
00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:14,467
Unfortunately it has that encumber of that little thing.

745
00:39:15,033 --> 00:39:16,100
It's a very unique situation.

746
00:39:18,934 --> 00:39:21,100
- So essentially, yeah, there's, there is no 75

747
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:24,000
because you can't get 75 feet away from the wetland.

748
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,700
'cause there's another wetland. Got it. I understand.

749
00:39:27,700 --> 00:39:28,700
Thank you.

750
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:31,533
- Yours too, - Please.

751
00:39:45,066 --> 00:39:46,367
- How do the regulations address that?

752
00:39:47,467 --> 00:39:48,867
- Hmm? - How do the regulations,

753
00:39:48,867 --> 00:39:50,066
they would have to request a waiver

754
00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:51,500
- For the buffer.

755
00:39:51,767 --> 00:39:52,767
Yeah. Okay.

756
00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:25,100
- While the board is looking at that on, on lot 14

757
00:40:26,033 --> 00:40:30,300
or the, is the patio in the back,

758
00:40:31,066 --> 00:40:33,467
are those, is that made with pervious papers?

759
00:40:33,467 --> 00:40:34,734
- That is previous papers, correct.

760
00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:48,900
- Okay. So with what Gwen just brought up

761
00:40:49,433 --> 00:40:51,000
a waivers requested or no,

762
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,767
because I'm not seeing that one's been requested

763
00:40:54,734 --> 00:40:57,500
for the 75 being within the 75 5.

764
00:41:12,233 --> 00:41:13,934
- Well, we'd like to make that waiver a request

765
00:41:13,934 --> 00:41:16,367
to put all possible on that particular What?

766
00:41:18,033 --> 00:41:19,266
- So - It wasn't in the plans.

767
00:41:19,767 --> 00:41:22,567
- Yeah, it's, it wasn't requested. He's doing it now.

768
00:41:34,834 --> 00:41:36,367
- Gwen, I don't know. Did you talk to any

769
00:41:36,367 --> 00:41:37,533
of the conservation commission?

770
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:41,100
- Did I? - No, I just, I found this.

771
00:41:41,166 --> 00:41:43,467
So did you look at their letter from August

772
00:41:44,133 --> 00:41:45,133
- On?

773
00:41:46,567 --> 00:41:47,000
I have it

774
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,700
let here.

775
00:41:53,634 --> 00:41:55,233
- Is that, you think they're talking about that law

776
00:41:55,367 --> 00:41:59,500
- In That's what I thought - The just brought up.

777
00:42:07,367 --> 00:42:12,133
Seems like it, right? You have the

778
00:42:12,133 --> 00:42:16,000
letter from the Conservation Commission dated

779
00:42:16,033 --> 00:42:19,367
August 12th, 2026.

780
00:42:23,834 --> 00:42:26,500
You don't, I can give you my copy if you don't have it. I,

781
00:42:26,667 --> 00:42:28,467
- I - Recall it if I don't have it.

782
00:42:28,934 --> 00:42:32,934
Okay. I have their memorandum. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah.

783
00:42:36,567 --> 00:42:41,467
If you look at under the bold heading conditional use

784
00:42:41,467 --> 00:42:44,333
permit, particularly number three.

785
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:48,634
Yes. I think they're making the same comment

786
00:42:49,467 --> 00:42:51,567
that board member English just expressed.

787
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,333
I'm not certain, I haven't confirmed that with anybody from

788
00:42:58,033 --> 00:43:00,567
the Conservation Commission, but when I had read that

789
00:43:00,567 --> 00:43:03,066
before, it seemed to me to tie in.

790
00:43:04,567 --> 00:43:06,300
Did they talk to you about that at all?

791
00:43:08,834 --> 00:43:11,467
Yeah, I think that was the reference lot. That lot? Yeah.

792
00:43:11,533 --> 00:43:15,233
Okay. Does the board know what I'm talking about?

793
00:43:15,266 --> 00:43:17,133
You're following me? Okay. Yep.

794
00:43:19,033 --> 00:43:21,500
- Can you see it for a second? Lemme it must be in my stuff.

795
00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:22,500
Three. Yep.

796
00:43:25,367 --> 00:43:26,433
- Is there an alternative?

797
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:33,066
- The alternative is a, a waiver for the 50 foot step back.

798
00:43:33,066 --> 00:43:34,667
And we know that's not favorable.

799
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,900
We know you don't like, that's a tough one to get.

800
00:43:37,266 --> 00:43:38,867
So there really isn't much of an alternative.

801
00:43:40,467 --> 00:43:45,000
- Okay. Interesting. See, - I'll tell you this.

802
00:43:45,634 --> 00:43:46,934
- The system request a waiver.

803
00:43:48,734 --> 00:43:50,033
- Yep. That's not what I was asking.

804
00:43:50,066 --> 00:43:52,166
I was asking if they, if they had an alternative

805
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:54,100
configuration Oh, okay.

806
00:43:54,333 --> 00:43:58,367
In mind. But I think they've expressed that

807
00:43:59,033 --> 00:44:03,266
they went with this direction believing

808
00:44:03,266 --> 00:44:06,233
that they could get two off of McKay fit in.

809
00:44:06,300 --> 00:44:08,667
And then until you see the detail

810
00:44:08,667 --> 00:44:10,133
of a plan, it's hard to indicate.

811
00:44:10,133 --> 00:44:13,133
Right. My my personal preference would be two off of McKay,

812
00:44:13,133 --> 00:44:16,533
but I don't feel excited about encroaching on buffers at

813
00:44:16,533 --> 00:44:19,166
that level a whole That's so horrible.

814
00:44:19,567 --> 00:44:20,934
Yeah. Yeah. A whole

815
00:44:21,767 --> 00:44:25,000
building structure within the buffer is pretty significant.

816
00:44:26,066 --> 00:44:28,133
- But what's unique is that we're actually not gonna change

817
00:44:28,133 --> 00:44:29,133
the topography whatsoever.

818
00:44:29,133 --> 00:44:30,734
That's the uniqueness of it all because Right.

819
00:44:30,934 --> 00:44:32,367
It's the field and we're not cutting trees

820
00:44:32,467 --> 00:44:34,066
or changing the terrain whatsoever.

821
00:44:34,266 --> 00:44:35,300
So what you see out there,

822
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:37,500
can you speak a little louder please?

823
00:44:38,066 --> 00:44:40,133
I mean, get the microphone. Yes. Okay.

824
00:44:40,233 --> 00:44:41,700
Can you hear me now so I can hear you? Yes.

825
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,033
Oh, sorry about that. Got the hearing aids.

826
00:44:44,066 --> 00:44:46,300
I can hear myself now. Anyways, but we thought

827
00:44:46,300 --> 00:44:48,300
because of the nature of the property itself,

828
00:44:48,500 --> 00:44:49,867
it's a field entirely.

829
00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:51,000
We're not adjusting it.

830
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,567
We're not cutting it, we're not doing anything.

831
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,500
And yes, we are putting a building in there,

832
00:44:54,567 --> 00:44:58,066
but the field itself is not no topography change

833
00:44:58,066 --> 00:44:59,100
will take place whatsoever.

834
00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:01,300
So what you see out there is what you're gonna get.

835
00:45:01,867 --> 00:45:03,066
So even though we are working within it,

836
00:45:03,066 --> 00:45:05,100
we're not altering any terrain that you,

837
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:07,100
you'd almost be doing if there were trees

838
00:45:07,266 --> 00:45:10,233
and anything with topography associated with it.

839
00:45:10,634 --> 00:45:12,266
It's a relatively flat terrain.

840
00:45:12,266 --> 00:45:13,834
Just a, a mild hump right there.

841
00:45:14,266 --> 00:45:16,567
And, and I hate to say it,

842
00:45:16,567 --> 00:45:17,567
but if it weren't for that little finger

843
00:45:17,667 --> 00:45:19,100
and it just does exist when I get it.

844
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:21,567
But it, it definitely, it, it looks

845
00:45:21,667 --> 00:45:23,033
and wants to have a house right there.

846
00:45:23,033 --> 00:45:24,033
It definitely feels it.

847
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:28,367
- Well we have to keep in mind that buffers serve a lot

848
00:45:28,367 --> 00:45:31,066
of purposes and

849
00:45:31,066 --> 00:45:35,266
that field may be serving a purpose for wildlife

850
00:45:35,333 --> 00:45:37,033
that is depending upon it.

851
00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:43,500
I mean it's, it's not a, it's it, we don't have buffers just

852
00:45:43,533 --> 00:45:46,266
for just for one particular reason.

853
00:45:46,433 --> 00:45:50,300
We have them for multiple reasons, whether it's a field

854
00:45:50,433 --> 00:45:52,634
or if it's forested

855
00:45:54,033 --> 00:45:56,266
- And all that wetland will be an open space.

856
00:45:57,166 --> 00:45:57,467
- Yep.

857
00:46:11,734 --> 00:46:15,166
- Oh, I don't what the solution is here.

858
00:46:23,133 --> 00:46:26,000
- Is this, - Well, the solution may be a,

859
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,033
a duplex on that a lot.

860
00:46:28,667 --> 00:46:31,033
Get my yield. What are your thoughts of that?

861
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,100
A duplex on 14? Yes. Yeah.

862
00:46:37,033 --> 00:46:38,667
So I haven't exceeded my yield at that point.

863
00:46:39,066 --> 00:46:40,033
Put a duplex on that lot.

864
00:46:47,066 --> 00:46:48,066
That's a possibility.

865
00:46:58,734 --> 00:47:01,266
- Oh, that's, - So these are all

866
00:47:01,333 --> 00:47:02,333
- Okay.

867
00:47:02,333 --> 00:47:04,266
Yeah. It's just that one. Thank you.

868
00:47:10,467 --> 00:47:14,066
- Yeah, I mean the non waiver approach would be just to

869
00:47:15,266 --> 00:47:18,367
increase, combine a couple of the condos right.

870
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,133
From single detached to attached

871
00:47:24,233 --> 00:47:26,033
- Wherever - Within the project. Yes.

872
00:47:26,133 --> 00:47:28,033
- Or make this a

873
00:47:28,233 --> 00:47:29,233
- Duplex.

874
00:47:29,233 --> 00:47:31,734
Any of them could do it with any of 'em. Yep.

875
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,033
I think it's more applicable to do, do that water

876
00:47:35,033 --> 00:47:36,000
as sistance from the other project.

877
00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:37,133
Sure. Okay.

878
00:47:47,367 --> 00:47:49,467
- I don't, I'm not totally comfortable

879
00:47:52,367 --> 00:47:53,500
not seeing something.

880
00:48:06,033 --> 00:48:06,166
I don't

881
00:48:06,166 --> 00:48:07,166
- Know.

882
00:48:07,166 --> 00:48:08,266
Is there any other, other things anybody wants

883
00:48:08,266 --> 00:48:09,433
to discuss on this plan?

884
00:48:10,033 --> 00:48:12,667
- Yeah, I have another question un unrelated to this. So

885
00:48:13,467 --> 00:48:15,000
- Let's let this one perfectly.

886
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,767
- Okay. Yeah. I, on your, in your September 17th

887
00:48:20,533 --> 00:48:24,500
letter with responses to the comments to Underwood,

888
00:48:25,934 --> 00:48:28,033
some of them, well, you know, there's,

889
00:48:28,033 --> 00:48:29,266
there's the original comment from

890
00:48:29,266 --> 00:48:30,700
Underwood is your response.

891
00:48:31,066 --> 00:48:32,500
They come back with another comment.

892
00:48:32,667 --> 00:48:33,867
You come back with another response.

893
00:48:34,033 --> 00:48:38,066
And particularly in the drainage report, you've come back

894
00:48:38,066 --> 00:48:41,133
with additional responses to, I presume, is there latest,

895
00:48:41,867 --> 00:48:45,634
the previous comment was there a final sign off on,

896
00:48:46,066 --> 00:48:48,767
so this is, do you have something from Underwood, you know,

897
00:48:48,767 --> 00:48:49,934
after September 17th?

898
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:53,166
- We do. We have a letter that I can, I can show you.

899
00:48:53,166 --> 00:48:56,934
Dated September 18th. Okay.

900
00:48:57,634 --> 00:48:58,700
Signed by Underwood.

901
00:48:59,133 --> 00:49:01,500
All previous comments have been addressed. Satisfactory.

902
00:49:01,567 --> 00:49:02,900
Okay. I have no further comments.

903
00:49:03,133 --> 00:49:05,367
- Yeah, that's fine. Okay. - Okay.

904
00:49:06,033 --> 00:49:08,000
- Thank - You Marty. Yeah, thank you.

905
00:49:08,166 --> 00:49:10,000
I was concerned because I had a few questions

906
00:49:10,133 --> 00:49:11,500
that now aren't relevant.

907
00:49:13,367 --> 00:49:13,900
- Thank you.

908
00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:21,533
- I'm sorry you said that was dated September 18th.

909
00:49:21,934 --> 00:49:22,734
- 18th, yes. Okay.

910
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,133
- I seem to remember last time we met there was like a

911
00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:31,533
question about a crosswalk

912
00:49:31,533 --> 00:49:34,000
that was being shown on the plans across Brentwood Road

913
00:49:34,333 --> 00:49:35,333
- That has been removed.

914
00:49:35,567 --> 00:49:36,567
Okay.

915
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:41,300
- Was that discussed with the town?

916
00:49:41,333 --> 00:49:42,533
Is that why it was removed

917
00:49:42,734 --> 00:49:45,133
or what, can you like elaborate on that a little bit?

918
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:47,734
- I wasn't at the last meeting,

919
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,934
but my understanding was it was requested to be removed.

920
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:53,300
Whether it was from Dave or this board

921
00:49:53,567 --> 00:49:54,634
or the town, I'm not sure.

922
00:49:54,734 --> 00:49:56,433
I just knew it was a request to remove it.

923
00:49:56,433 --> 00:49:56,700
- Okay.

924
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:08,133
- Isn't there an existing sidewalk on

925
00:50:10,166 --> 00:50:12,133
- Brentwood - Road on the other side of Brentwood?

926
00:50:12,133 --> 00:50:14,033
- There is no north side. I mean south side of Brentwood.

927
00:50:14,033 --> 00:50:17,634
There is, yeah. Okay. So the question is about,

928
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:20,634
- Yeah, I seem to remember - Pavement or something.

929
00:50:21,867 --> 00:50:24,266
- I think that Mr. Smith said that there was a request

930
00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:28,000
to add the crosswalk maybe with somebody.

931
00:50:28,367 --> 00:50:30,533
And then we were like,

932
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:32,700
we kinda had a little discussion about, well is

933
00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:34,300
that really a safe place to have a crosswalk?

934
00:50:34,367 --> 00:50:37,467
So I'm just curious how that conversation resolved.

935
00:50:37,734 --> 00:50:39,700
- I believe the way we, we left it, we had a discussion

936
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,634
and then I think we left it and said, you know, DPW

937
00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:44,300
or planning should take care of that.

938
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:47,100
And I think Dave was gonna do that. So I Okay.

939
00:50:47,133 --> 00:50:48,867
I'm maybe that's where it came from.

940
00:50:48,900 --> 00:50:50,233
You must have, yeah, it didn't come from the board.

941
00:50:50,233 --> 00:50:51,700
The board had, you know,

942
00:50:52,033 --> 00:50:53,467
okay, somebody needs to make this decision.

943
00:50:53,500 --> 00:50:55,233
Go back to public works or whatever.

944
00:50:55,767 --> 00:50:57,000
- Yeah. Alright.

945
00:50:59,934 --> 00:51:02,567
- Can we go back to the September 17th letter?

946
00:51:03,467 --> 00:51:06,133
I understand that you've got a lot of data the next day,

947
00:51:06,667 --> 00:51:08,000
but I do have one question

948
00:51:08,333 --> 00:51:10,734
and it was about the lighting at the kiosk.

949
00:51:10,734 --> 00:51:14,734
Your responses that people will check their mail based on

950
00:51:14,734 --> 00:51:16,567
their, using their car headlights,

951
00:51:16,567 --> 00:51:18,700
- Either their car headlights or their phone or something.

952
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:21,033
But it's not a, it's not something that's lit.

953
00:51:21,667 --> 00:51:24,734
His comment and concern was that there was a tree

954
00:51:24,734 --> 00:51:27,934
that could potentially block some of the lighting from the

955
00:51:28,834 --> 00:51:29,834
- Yeah.

956
00:51:29,834 --> 00:51:33,934
And to and to please remove the tree if needed. Yeah. Right.

957
00:51:34,300 --> 00:51:37,066
- Yeah. So I looked around at a lot of different ones.

958
00:51:37,066 --> 00:51:40,066
They are not typically lit it.

959
00:51:41,133 --> 00:51:43,300
They adjust either the car headlights

960
00:51:43,300 --> 00:51:46,100
or someone with their phone, but they are not typically lit.

961
00:51:49,066 --> 00:51:52,233
Okay. And they're not necessarily near a, an overhead light

962
00:51:52,233 --> 00:51:54,000
that projects light down for them.

963
00:51:55,166 --> 00:51:57,100
- That's a chance to come up with a solar light

964
00:51:57,100 --> 00:51:59,100
for the mailbox kiosk. Yeah.

965
00:51:59,734 --> 00:52:01,700
- Right. I mean check your mail.

966
00:52:02,867 --> 00:52:04,700
- Oh, your - Headlights. I don't know how that's possible,

967
00:52:04,734 --> 00:52:06,300
but anyway.

968
00:52:06,533 --> 00:52:07,734
Okay. Thank you.

969
00:52:10,467 --> 00:52:11,567
- But you do have, I think

970
00:52:11,567 --> 00:52:13,100
- There's a lot of lit mailboxes.

971
00:52:13,367 --> 00:52:14,767
- A lot of - What? I don't think there's a lot

972
00:52:14,767 --> 00:52:16,767
of lit mailboxes.

973
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,934
- Really. Okay. Mine is wherever I look, but okay.

974
00:52:22,033 --> 00:52:23,033
Yes, I've been lucky.

975
00:52:24,867 --> 00:52:26,500
- But you do have a light at the entrance way

976
00:52:26,867 --> 00:52:27,734
- There is a light. Yes.

977
00:52:27,767 --> 00:52:29,767
- Okay. There's some little bit of spillover.

978
00:52:30,133 --> 00:52:33,233
Yes. Okay.

979
00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:34,634
- Yeah, good point. Thank you.

980
00:52:35,166 --> 00:52:36,300
Just thinking of safety

981
00:52:36,667 --> 00:52:39,066
and being right at the entrance there.

982
00:52:41,900 --> 00:52:43,133
Someone walked through their mailbox.

983
00:52:46,033 --> 00:52:47,100
- Other questions

984
00:52:50,066 --> 00:52:51,066
while we're pounding that?

985
00:52:51,066 --> 00:52:53,867
Let me open the leading to public,

986
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,133
see if someone else would like to speak to this case.

987
00:52:57,367 --> 00:53:01,033
So if you have something to say, please step

988
00:53:01,033 --> 00:53:03,100
to the microphone over there and introduce yourself

989
00:53:05,834 --> 00:53:06,834
- One at a time.

990
00:53:06,834 --> 00:53:07,333
Please

991
00:53:11,834 --> 00:53:12,834
- For the record.

992
00:53:16,467 --> 00:53:18,700
Other questions or concerns we may have.

993
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,734
How about the landscaping plan?

994
00:53:25,734 --> 00:53:27,033
Let's take a look at that a little bit.

995
00:53:27,300 --> 00:53:30,834
'cause that's now a finished product, quote unquote

996
00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:35,100
- The new one.

997
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,066
- Now it may change slightly de depending on which unit

998
00:53:46,066 --> 00:53:47,100
becomes a duplex,

999
00:53:52,033 --> 00:53:54,467
- I would definitely move the, the unit on McKay driveway.

1000
00:53:54,467 --> 00:53:56,867
With the duplex land, we wouldn't do a duplex up front,

1001
00:53:59,066 --> 00:54:00,066
so this wouldn't change at all.

1002
00:54:01,734 --> 00:54:05,266
Well page two does. I'm sorry. Yes. Thank you. Yeah.

1003
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,100
- Any thoughts? - Oh dear.

1004
00:54:19,033 --> 00:54:21,867
- Any questions? Any concerns? Any suggestions?

1005
00:54:30,066 --> 00:54:31,467
- That one, yeah, that's what he's saying.

1006
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,000
So

1007
00:54:38,367 --> 00:54:41,166
- In terms of the, the issue with number 24

1008
00:54:41,166 --> 00:54:44,133
and McKay, is the applicant looking at making number

1009
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:46,333
14 McKay a duplex? Is that what

1010
00:54:46,333 --> 00:54:47,333
- You're That's correct.

1011
00:54:47,433 --> 00:54:50,000
- Okay. Are you thinking you'd build in the

1012
00:54:50,567 --> 00:54:53,033
existing envelope as shown on the existing plan? A

1013
00:54:53,033 --> 00:54:54,033
- Hundred percent.

1014
00:54:54,033 --> 00:54:55,133
- Okay. - Yeah,

1015
00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:03,100
- It kind of makes sense to do it there.

1016
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:03,567
- Yep.

1017
00:55:19,133 --> 00:55:21,000
- So probably the only change would be the,

1018
00:55:21,333 --> 00:55:24,000
maybe the driveway paving, parking,

1019
00:55:25,266 --> 00:55:26,667
- Maybe plant things too.

1020
00:55:26,867 --> 00:55:28,000
I thought maybe it might

1021
00:55:31,734 --> 00:55:32,734
- And we could very well stay

1022
00:55:32,734 --> 00:55:34,433
with the single quite frankly, depending on what happens.

1023
00:55:34,467 --> 00:55:36,567
But it's nice to have the option of the duplex

1024
00:55:37,033 --> 00:55:38,133
and the driveway may center

1025
00:55:38,700 --> 00:55:40,333
and it may be the garage in the middle

1026
00:55:40,367 --> 00:55:42,100
and the units on the side.

1027
00:55:42,133 --> 00:55:43,133
Yeah.

1028
00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:47,900
- Are you confident you have enough room on that lot? Yeah.

1029
00:55:47,900 --> 00:55:50,333
Without going into the, yeah. Going into the buffers.

1030
00:55:56,467 --> 00:55:57,467
- How - Many days in

1031
00:55:58,133 --> 00:55:59,233
- Have I,

1032
00:55:59,834 --> 00:56:01,000
- It'll have a unique configuration,

1033
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,133
but it certainly is, is absolutely, I mean it's able

1034
00:56:04,133 --> 00:56:05,500
to be done without a problem.

1035
00:56:11,533 --> 00:56:14,100
- Okay. - I wonder if you might want to stretch it

1036
00:56:15,166 --> 00:56:16,266
towards McKay.

1037
00:56:18,634 --> 00:56:20,266
- Yep. Looks - Like you have room to do that

1038
00:56:21,533 --> 00:56:23,700
versus the box that you have on there now.

1039
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:27,233
You know what I mean? Agree

1040
00:56:33,166 --> 00:56:34,166
- That way.

1041
00:56:34,567 --> 00:56:36,834
Yeah. Yeah.

1042
00:56:36,834 --> 00:56:38,533
- You've got plenty of space there to do that. So

1043
00:56:38,834 --> 00:56:41,500
- We may be nearing the front setback there, but we, we

1044
00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:42,500
- Will look at it.

1045
00:56:42,500 --> 00:56:45,000
Yeah. Trying

1046
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,934
to figure out if we can move forward without kicking you

1047
00:56:47,934 --> 00:56:49,033
back on this one lot.

1048
00:56:49,266 --> 00:56:51,367
That's what I'm trying to work on.

1049
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,700
- What is the, off, off of McKay drive

1050
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,100
the hashed portions of property? Is that a,

1051
00:57:01,033 --> 00:57:03,000
- That's an access and utility easement

1052
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:07,033
that is in place as these two.

1053
00:57:07,033 --> 00:57:08,934
These are two contemplated lots. So those

1054
00:57:08,934 --> 00:57:10,266
- Are, so having the driveway on there

1055
00:57:10,300 --> 00:57:11,333
is obviously no problem.

1056
00:57:11,700 --> 00:57:13,100
- Alright. Full access.

1057
00:57:13,567 --> 00:57:15,734
You smiling enough when they were doing the condos,

1058
00:57:15,734 --> 00:57:17,100
the, the townhouse is back there.

1059
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:20,266
I'm sorry, the garden style to say, listen, I want access.

1060
00:57:20,333 --> 00:57:21,634
And he said they would offer me money.

1061
00:57:21,700 --> 00:57:23,433
I said no, no, I want access out there.

1062
00:57:24,133 --> 00:57:26,166
So quite frankly there's two water services

1063
00:57:26,467 --> 00:57:28,333
and a force main to tie into.

1064
00:57:28,333 --> 00:57:31,100
It's all ready to go. So when that project was done,

1065
00:57:31,634 --> 00:57:33,834
as a matter of fact, my site contractor Dirt Pro did it

1066
00:57:33,834 --> 00:57:36,100
and said I remember specifically putting those services

1067
00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:39,934
there and it's likely back then lang at the setback to

1068
00:57:39,934 --> 00:57:41,834
where it wasn't as extreme as it is right now.

1069
00:57:42,133 --> 00:57:44,367
So it would've been two viable lots at that time.

1070
00:57:46,133 --> 00:57:48,000
- So it looks like the front setback in

1071
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,266
that is 25 feet there.

1072
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:50,300
Am I right?

1073
00:57:50,867 --> 00:57:51,133
- Mm.

1074
00:57:59,567 --> 00:58:00,934
- Would it be appropriate to ask

1075
00:58:00,934 --> 00:58:02,000
for a waive it to the front setback?

1076
00:58:03,233 --> 00:58:04,233
- I, I don't know if you need it.

1077
00:58:04,500 --> 00:58:06,634
I think you got a, I think you got a lot at land. Yep.

1078
00:58:07,867 --> 00:58:12,100
I think you've got, I think you're at more than

1079
00:58:12,100 --> 00:58:13,233
50, but

1080
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,467
- Wait, - Yeah, there's plenty there. 40

1081
00:58:17,634 --> 00:58:18,634
- Anyway.

1082
00:58:18,634 --> 00:58:21,333
- Yeah. And we'll marry it right to the front step back

1083
00:58:21,333 --> 00:58:22,734
and that'll be the smart move.

1084
00:58:22,734 --> 00:58:23,934
There's still plenty of distance because

1085
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,000
of the extra space from the actual road

1086
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,000
that we're gonna be accessing.

1087
00:58:28,066 --> 00:58:29,467
Right. So it'll, it'll look appropriate.

1088
00:58:30,100 --> 00:58:30,500
- Right.

1089
00:58:40,900 --> 00:58:42,867
- John just brought up a good point. It's a private road.

1090
00:58:42,867 --> 00:58:44,000
Do we need a front set back on a

1091
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,000
- Private road McKay drive?

1092
00:58:45,233 --> 00:58:48,934
Yeah. I'm not certain on that.

1093
00:58:49,834 --> 00:58:49,934
- I

1094
00:58:54,033 --> 00:58:55,700
- No say well it's,

1095
00:58:56,266 --> 00:58:58,033
- But I think we can make it fit. There's no

1096
00:58:58,266 --> 00:58:59,266
- Question.

1097
00:58:59,266 --> 00:59:00,367
It's a good question. I'm not certain on that.

1098
00:59:02,433 --> 00:59:04,233
- I think you do have to have a setback and I built some,

1099
00:59:04,433 --> 00:59:05,433
- I think you I think do too.

1100
00:59:05,433 --> 00:59:06,000
But

1101
00:59:06,266 --> 00:59:08,100
- I might be 20 feet though, to be quite honest with you.

1102
00:59:09,066 --> 00:59:11,734
- Not 25. The plan you submitted shows 25.

1103
00:59:12,033 --> 00:59:15,533
It references the 25 foot minimum

1104
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:19,500
on the front, 15 on the sides, 30 on the rear.

1105
00:59:20,367 --> 00:59:23,934
You're well over 30 on the rear. We'll make it work.

1106
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,033
You gotta put a mile on the rear. Yeah, we'll make it work.

1107
00:59:28,667 --> 00:59:32,233
Yeah. I mean from my perspective, if

1108
00:59:33,367 --> 00:59:36,066
24 McKay went away Yes.

1109
00:59:36,166 --> 00:59:40,000
And we went with allowing them to do a duplex

1110
00:59:40,667 --> 00:59:42,100
at 14 McKay.

1111
00:59:42,500 --> 00:59:44,033
Yes. And allow them

1112
00:59:44,100 --> 00:59:48,500
to maximize the building envelope at 14 McKay without

1113
00:59:49,166 --> 00:59:52,834
encroaching on any buffer zones on 14 McKay,

1114
00:59:54,066 --> 00:59:55,333
I would be comfortable with that change

1115
00:59:55,433 --> 00:59:57,000
to the plan at this meeting

1116
00:59:58,066 --> 00:59:59,300
- And - Meets all the setback

1117
00:59:59,300 --> 01:00:00,300
- Requirements.

1118
01:00:00,300 --> 01:00:03,734
- Correct. Yeah. - And so can you make it conditional on

1119
01:00:03,734 --> 01:00:04,734
- That?

1120
01:00:04,734 --> 01:00:05,000
We can.

1121
01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:10,300
- Without - Seeing, how does the board feel about that?

1122
01:00:11,133 --> 01:00:12,133
- You're saying without seeing

1123
01:00:12,133 --> 01:00:14,333
that the actual plan for that? Yeah.

1124
01:00:14,367 --> 01:00:18,266
- Yeah. Okay. I mean that's not, I mean that's pretty known.

1125
01:00:18,266 --> 01:00:20,100
We know what it's gonna look like. Right.

1126
01:00:20,734 --> 01:00:23,266
And that's something I'd be very comfortable

1127
01:00:23,266 --> 01:00:25,567
with Dave seeing that final plan

1128
01:00:25,867 --> 01:00:26,867
- Yeah.

1129
01:00:26,867 --> 01:00:27,233
Condition. Right.

1130
01:00:27,233 --> 01:00:30,033
- Really. He's dealt with more than that before. Oh yeah.

1131
01:00:30,033 --> 01:00:34,500
On our behalf. Yep. So, you know,

1132
01:00:34,500 --> 01:00:37,133
and we don't really, we typically just have them show

1133
01:00:38,233 --> 01:00:39,367
the envelope.

1134
01:00:39,367 --> 01:00:43,667
We don't get crazy about that. No. Some boards do, we don't.

1135
01:00:43,734 --> 01:00:46,133
We're pretty liberal with that.

1136
01:00:47,100 --> 01:00:50,367
But when you're talking about buffers, we're not,

1137
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:51,734
we're pretty strict on those.

1138
01:00:52,367 --> 01:00:55,700
And I think Gwen brings up a extremely valid point there.

1139
01:01:01,133 --> 01:01:03,133
- I'm okay with that. - I think

1140
01:01:03,133 --> 01:01:04,100
it's a pretty good solution.

1141
01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:08,166
I mean, if you'd consider the amount

1142
01:01:08,166 --> 01:01:10,033
of open space you're preserving by doing

1143
01:01:10,033 --> 01:01:12,066
that, it's pretty significant. Nope. It's

1144
01:01:12,066 --> 01:01:13,066
- Pretty significant.

1145
01:01:16,533 --> 01:01:17,567
- This is not something

1146
01:01:17,767 --> 01:01:19,567
- Anybody else should speak from the public.

1147
01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:22,567
I guess not this evening. So let me close the public session

1148
01:01:22,700 --> 01:01:24,000
and bring it back to the board.

1149
01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:29,634
- Can - I put in a request

1150
01:01:29,634 --> 01:01:33,333
that really isn't anything in our regulations to the builder

1151
01:01:33,567 --> 01:01:35,667
and to the applicant?

1152
01:01:37,333 --> 01:01:40,000
- Can I, can I just make a suggestion to

1153
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:40,700
- Them? Yeah, sure.

1154
01:01:41,166 --> 01:01:43,834
- When you're, when you're positioning houses

1155
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:45,433
and designing roof lines,

1156
01:01:49,100 --> 01:01:51,433
and this isn't a requirement, it won't be a condition,

1157
01:01:51,500 --> 01:01:55,100
but could you orient those roofs so that they would be

1158
01:01:58,900 --> 01:02:01,100
situated in a way that would embrace the use

1159
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:06,000
of solar panels if down the road these owners want to

1160
01:02:06,634 --> 01:02:08,100
Oh, put solar panels.

1161
01:02:09,700 --> 01:02:13,734
So it's not necessarily moving the position of your house,

1162
01:02:13,867 --> 01:02:17,467
but just maximizing the southern exposure so that

1163
01:02:18,033 --> 01:02:21,533
down the road people could put solar panels on. And

1164
01:02:22,133 --> 01:02:23,834
- I'll - Give a, see some benefits from that.

1165
01:02:24,100 --> 01:02:26,367
- I'll give you a little unique study on this and,

1166
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,734
and it's as strange as it may sound,

1167
01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:31,634
you want a south facing garage

1168
01:02:32,367 --> 01:02:35,700
and a south facing driveway, it'll melt all the time.

1169
01:02:36,166 --> 01:02:38,033
If you have a north facing garage

1170
01:02:38,433 --> 01:02:39,767
and a north facing driveway,

1171
01:02:39,767 --> 01:02:41,133
it'll be under ice all the time.

1172
01:02:42,233 --> 01:02:45,266
So in all honesty, the back of the house, the front

1173
01:02:45,266 --> 01:02:47,734
of the house is, is gonna be conducive to solar panels

1174
01:02:47,734 --> 01:02:49,000
as long as it's attractive looking.

1175
01:02:49,133 --> 01:02:50,700
But they'll be on the front versus the rear.

1176
01:02:52,033 --> 01:02:55,367
That make sense? If you go to two sides of the street

1177
01:02:56,367 --> 01:02:59,100
and you like a clean driveway, which a lot of people do,

1178
01:02:59,033 --> 01:03:00,500
you want to be south facing.

1179
01:03:01,900 --> 01:03:03,567
So that means if you like solar panels,

1180
01:03:03,567 --> 01:03:04,834
they're gonna be on the front of your house.

1181
01:03:05,700 --> 01:03:08,300
- Which is, I mean, they're making them now so

1182
01:03:08,300 --> 01:03:09,500
that you can, they're better looking.

1183
01:03:09,500 --> 01:03:11,133
- Yeah. - But I I, I appreciate that.

1184
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:13,367
I think they're, they're a lot of

1185
01:03:13,834 --> 01:03:18,266
- Yeah, no, - Just

1186
01:03:18,367 --> 01:03:19,634
it's, it's a thought.

1187
01:03:28,100 --> 01:03:29,066
- Am I, am I take it

1188
01:03:29,066 --> 01:03:30,734
that we're looking at a landscaping plan?

1189
01:03:31,066 --> 01:03:32,767
There's no comments from this board

1190
01:03:32,867 --> 01:03:34,000
on this landscaping plan.

1191
01:03:34,367 --> 01:03:36,033
- Oh, - I guess we're,

1192
01:03:36,333 --> 01:03:38,266
- I want it mark the time and date. Happy with

1193
01:03:38,266 --> 01:03:39,266
- That.

1194
01:03:39,834 --> 01:03:41,033
It's a good landscaping plan.

1195
01:03:41,433 --> 01:03:43,266
- He's even got - The fall card. Well you could say that.

1196
01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:45,834
- I think it's a great landscaping plan.

1197
01:03:45,900 --> 01:03:47,100
- Oh, she's awake. - There's,

1198
01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:51,066
it's a ni I figure if I don't have anything I

1199
01:03:51,066 --> 01:03:52,233
to say that I know.

1200
01:03:52,233 --> 01:03:54,266
I mean it's a nice variety of

1201
01:03:56,467 --> 01:03:57,734
trees and shrubs.

1202
01:03:58,233 --> 01:04:01,100
I think that, you know, there's significant buffers

1203
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:03,033
being established.

1204
01:04:03,934 --> 01:04:06,533
I like that there's some landscaping in the cul-de-sac

1205
01:04:06,533 --> 01:04:07,300
and along the streets

1206
01:04:10,166 --> 01:04:12,133
and just, yeah.

1207
01:04:13,066 --> 01:04:14,066
Good species.

1208
01:04:16,667 --> 01:04:20,066
- Would you, are you concerned about the center

1209
01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:22,734
of the cul-de-sac being snow storage?

1210
01:04:26,533 --> 01:04:30,300
- I mean it's, there's a lot of grass there, so no.

1211
01:04:30,734 --> 01:04:32,000
Oh, okay. I'm not concerned.

1212
01:04:32,066 --> 01:04:35,033
I mean, I don't think the snow's ever gonna get all the

1213
01:04:35,033 --> 01:04:36,033
way to the middle.

1214
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:39,467
And those are pretty big trees on the edges

1215
01:04:39,467 --> 01:04:40,667
that I think will be fine.

1216
01:04:42,300 --> 01:04:43,767
You know, they're far enough away from the edge.

1217
01:04:43,767 --> 01:04:48,734
Like the snow banks end up being the first eight feet.

1218
01:04:49,066 --> 01:04:50,266
Yeah. So they're not gonna,

1219
01:04:50,934 --> 01:04:52,900
- They're - Not gonna go be all the way in the middle.

1220
01:04:53,033 --> 01:04:55,033
- Let's hope we don't have one of those winters

1221
01:04:55,033 --> 01:04:58,900
- Where No, but even last winter, I mean we have, you know,

1222
01:04:58,900 --> 01:05:00,300
my neighborhood has a similar situation.

1223
01:05:00,533 --> 01:05:02,033
I just remember seeing the snow piling up

1224
01:05:02,300 --> 01:05:03,867
'cause that's where they would put it.

1225
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:08,433
And it's the first, you know, eight feet

1226
01:05:08,433 --> 01:05:09,934
or so are the big snow banks. Yeah.

1227
01:05:10,767 --> 01:05:13,100
- We typically, typically hire people with loaders

1228
01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:15,100
because a plow can only, can only push so much.

1229
01:05:15,066 --> 01:05:17,266
But a loader can drop the snow where it has to go.

1230
01:05:17,266 --> 01:05:18,533
It makes a big difference. That's

1231
01:05:18,533 --> 01:05:19,533
- Right.

1232
01:05:21,734 --> 01:05:23,066
- Yep. Okay.

1233
01:05:24,100 --> 01:05:25,567
- Are these, I'm sorry, are these gonna be

1234
01:05:25,667 --> 01:05:26,900
condos or single family?

1235
01:05:27,133 --> 01:05:28,300
- Yeah, they'll be, it'll be a

1236
01:05:28,300 --> 01:05:29,734
homeowners association. Homeowners

1237
01:05:29,734 --> 01:05:30,266
- Association. Okay.

1238
01:05:30,266 --> 01:05:31,533
- So actually condominiums,

1239
01:05:31,834 --> 01:05:33,100
it'll be a condominium association.

1240
01:05:33,100 --> 01:05:34,533
- That's what I meant. Yeah. Condos.

1241
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:39,033
So does the snow clearing company do the driveways too?

1242
01:05:39,033 --> 01:05:40,166
Or are people responsible for the route?

1243
01:05:40,166 --> 01:05:41,900
- We generally do the driveways in the front walkways.

1244
01:05:41,900 --> 01:05:43,100
Oh, okay. Just makes more sense.

1245
01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:44,867
And we try to get the, the landscaping company

1246
01:05:44,867 --> 01:05:46,000
to do all the lawns as well.

1247
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,567
Okay. So it's all taken care of together.

1248
01:05:57,066 --> 01:05:59,367
It might be worth taking a look at wild apple lane

1249
01:05:59,367 --> 01:06:01,367
or a little river just to see how those are all done.

1250
01:06:01,533 --> 01:06:03,834
And those are all done as a condominium association

1251
01:06:03,834 --> 01:06:05,333
and they're very clean and neat looking.

1252
01:06:05,333 --> 01:06:06,433
We saw everything, you know,

1253
01:06:06,433 --> 01:06:07,667
we started to do a nice job with it.

1254
01:06:35,133 --> 01:06:35,500
- Okay.

1255
01:06:52,066 --> 01:06:56,667
So we have two

1256
01:06:56,667 --> 01:06:58,000
motions to deal with here.

1257
01:07:01,367 --> 01:07:02,367
Aren't we there yet?

1258
01:07:19,266 --> 01:07:19,634
- Okay.

1259
01:07:24,767 --> 01:07:26,433
- Did you mark the location of the,

1260
01:07:26,533 --> 01:07:28,367
I know it's pretty well cleared,

1261
01:07:28,567 --> 01:07:29,934
but were there any

1262
01:07:30,500 --> 01:07:33,634
large trees over 20 inches in diameter

1263
01:07:33,634 --> 01:07:35,934
that were marked

1264
01:07:36,900 --> 01:07:41,667
- If we, - Well,

1265
01:07:41,667 --> 01:07:43,433
some odd clusters of trees there

1266
01:07:43,433 --> 01:07:46,033
because they're, they they didn't sell.

1267
01:07:46,033 --> 01:07:48,500
I got stuffed out back. Yeah, yeah.

1268
01:07:49,133 --> 01:07:51,066
With a little father placement, so.

1269
01:07:51,467 --> 01:07:56,300
- Right. - What's very unique about Lee McNaughton is

1270
01:07:56,300 --> 01:07:58,000
she physically goes out in the site,

1271
01:07:58,066 --> 01:08:00,634
you give her the information and she identifies everything

1272
01:08:00,634 --> 01:08:03,033
that's out there and walks every inch of the site to see

1273
01:08:03,033 --> 01:08:05,033
where the trays are and see what she's tying into.

1274
01:08:05,033 --> 01:08:08,000
So this isn't a made up forested area.

1275
01:08:08,033 --> 01:08:10,166
That's exactly what she, she sees on the plan.

1276
01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:11,500
Does a current job

1277
01:08:40,166 --> 01:08:42,367
- Did this is for the board.

1278
01:08:43,033 --> 01:08:46,066
Did anybody discuss with the conservation commission the,

1279
01:08:46,767 --> 01:08:48,166
'cause I, I missed part of this hearing

1280
01:08:49,667 --> 01:08:52,066
so I didn't have the, get the homework done

1281
01:08:52,066 --> 01:08:53,133
that I normally do on it.

1282
01:08:53,433 --> 01:08:56,000
So the conservation commission memorandum at the end of it,

1283
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:57,634
they talk about the conservation land

1284
01:08:58,700 --> 01:09:00,066
and they talk about with regard

1285
01:09:00,066 --> 01:09:02,634
to the conservation land dependent density bonus,

1286
01:09:02,834 --> 01:09:06,367
the Conservation Commission also voted unanimously.

1287
01:09:06,567 --> 01:09:09,266
They are supportive in concept of the town holding con

1288
01:09:10,834 --> 01:09:14,333
conservation interest in this land with details on the type

1289
01:09:14,333 --> 01:09:15,467
of deed, easement terms

1290
01:09:15,500 --> 01:09:17,000
and conservation boundary

1291
01:09:17,567 --> 01:09:19,834
to be developed prior to acceptance.

1292
01:09:21,467 --> 01:09:23,066
Anybody discuss that with them at all?

1293
01:09:24,367 --> 01:09:28,033
- No, we haven't. - Aaron, I ran that

1294
01:09:28,033 --> 01:09:29,133
by Christian Smith this morning

1295
01:09:29,133 --> 01:09:30,433
just to make sure we're all set.

1296
01:09:30,433 --> 01:09:31,533
And you said the best answer is

1297
01:09:31,533 --> 01:09:33,700
to have Kristen Murphy sit down with our attorney

1298
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,867
and determine whether they want a, a deed restriction

1299
01:09:36,867 --> 01:09:38,767
or a conservation, however they want to do it.

1300
01:09:38,834 --> 01:09:40,367
That's how we would prepare it. Okay.

1301
01:09:40,500 --> 01:09:42,467
So, yeah, so it's kind of vague

1302
01:09:42,467 --> 01:09:45,000
but Kristen's worked out very well doing this in the

1303
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:46,000
- Past.

1304
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:46,033
Yeah, she's very good to deal with.

1305
01:09:46,133 --> 01:09:50,000
It's just, it's such, it's a, you know,

1306
01:09:51,033 --> 01:09:53,700
pretty open-ended comment by them

1307
01:09:56,100 --> 01:09:58,000
with no one from the conservation commission here

1308
01:10:01,467 --> 01:10:04,033
and we're, you know, potentially taking action.

1309
01:10:04,100 --> 01:10:08,634
So appreciate you bearing with us on that item.

1310
01:10:10,634 --> 01:10:13,133
- Do we need a conditional condition on it?

1311
01:10:14,133 --> 01:10:17,867
- Well, I, I think it's up to the board, but

1312
01:10:20,066 --> 01:10:21,934
- Just a - Matter of we know what they would like.

1313
01:10:23,066 --> 01:10:26,066
- Yeah. - I think they're expressing they want input with

1314
01:10:26,066 --> 01:10:27,000
that, but it's, I just,

1315
01:10:27,066 --> 01:10:29,066
I don't love open-ended stuff personally.

1316
01:10:35,767 --> 01:10:37,000
- Yeah. It could be developed prior.

1317
01:10:37,166 --> 01:10:39,233
- Well that's typically prepared with the,

1318
01:10:39,634 --> 01:10:40,734
- It's pretty strongly worded.

1319
01:10:40,834 --> 01:10:44,634
It is, but that's, they don't dictate to us the advise us.

1320
01:10:45,066 --> 01:10:47,533
So the,

1321
01:10:49,867 --> 01:10:51,133
I think that in this, you know, part

1322
01:10:51,133 --> 01:10:53,166
of you gotta look at the, the land itself

1323
01:10:53,333 --> 01:10:58,266
and part of the, part of the restriction on

1324
01:10:59,066 --> 01:11:03,333
the open space for development use comes

1325
01:11:03,333 --> 01:11:05,934
by the nature of it's, well it's, yeah.

1326
01:11:05,934 --> 01:11:07,467
Right. So, you know,

1327
01:11:07,500 --> 01:11:10,834
unless the world completely changes, what they gonna be able

1328
01:11:10,834 --> 01:11:12,133
to do with it in the future other than

1329
01:11:12,133 --> 01:11:13,266
have it as open space.

1330
01:11:13,266 --> 01:11:15,734
And I'm not trying to be snarky, but that is reality.

1331
01:11:16,834 --> 01:11:19,367
So I think it kind of takes care of itself in that regard.

1332
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,467
And I also know that

1333
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,867
policing these things becomes pretty onerous on any body,

1334
01:11:28,300 --> 01:11:29,834
particularly this town.

1335
01:11:31,700 --> 01:11:33,333
Unless there's a group that you know,

1336
01:11:33,567 --> 01:11:34,867
want to be involved in that.

1337
01:11:35,333 --> 01:11:36,567
My my other experience is

1338
01:11:36,567 --> 01:11:38,233
that if you have a homeowner's association,

1339
01:11:38,734 --> 01:11:41,100
which you obviously will, you've got condominiums,

1340
01:11:41,100 --> 01:11:44,066
you've got a private road, you're gonna have some people

1341
01:11:44,066 --> 01:11:49,000
within that community that want to see that preserved

1342
01:11:49,533 --> 01:11:52,000
that it's an attraction to them to be there.

1343
01:11:53,033 --> 01:11:55,934
It's gonna, I think it's gonna self-police itself frankly.

1344
01:11:58,033 --> 01:12:01,634
So being overly concerned about that, I just wanted

1345
01:12:01,634 --> 01:12:02,634
to make sure we discussed it.

1346
01:12:03,066 --> 01:12:04,100
I think we owe it to the conservation

1347
01:12:04,100 --> 01:12:05,133
board to certainly do that.

1348
01:12:06,700 --> 01:12:08,266
But I just wanted to see if anybody had

1349
01:12:08,266 --> 01:12:09,333
had any further talk about

1350
01:12:09,433 --> 01:12:12,700
- Well what that is your intent is it not 100%.

1351
01:12:12,767 --> 01:12:15,367
And what'll happen is there'll be some restriction

1352
01:12:15,367 --> 01:12:17,066
or there'll be some methodology

1353
01:12:17,066 --> 01:12:19,734
with Kristen saying we want this grass cut once a year.

1354
01:12:19,867 --> 01:12:21,033
This is the time of the year to do it.

1355
01:12:21,266 --> 01:12:23,166
And then we'd put that in the condominium documents

1356
01:12:23,266 --> 01:12:24,900
and these people, they adhere to it.

1357
01:12:24,900 --> 01:12:26,066
They by the Bible,

1358
01:12:26,066 --> 01:12:28,900
if it says can be cut once a year at that time they'll do it.

1359
01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:32,867
So we can make that a condition.

1360
01:12:32,867 --> 01:12:34,033
It's a great attraction to have them on

1361
01:12:34,033 --> 01:12:35,100
the backyard to look at that field.

1362
01:12:35,166 --> 01:12:37,000
It's really a great attraction. Absolutely.

1363
01:12:41,333 --> 01:12:45,900
- I don't want to word that, but, but I think, yeah.

1364
01:12:50,467 --> 01:12:52,734
- Yeah. If I remember correctly, when you had the meeting

1365
01:12:52,734 --> 01:12:55,433
with the Conservation Commission, I watched it,

1366
01:12:55,467 --> 01:12:57,100
but it's been a while and I haven't,

1367
01:12:57,100 --> 01:12:58,700
didn't rewatch it for this meeting.

1368
01:12:59,767 --> 01:13:01,834
There was just different languages and,

1369
01:13:02,066 --> 01:13:04,734
and the conditions of the easement.

1370
01:13:04,867 --> 01:13:09,000
Right. And they were kind of waiting for you to come here

1371
01:13:09,734 --> 01:13:12,266
because of the two lots

1372
01:13:12,266 --> 01:13:14,634
that were being proposed off of McKay Drive.

1373
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,467
So yeah, I guess it would just be worded as a condition

1374
01:13:20,533 --> 01:13:24,734
that, based on the approval of

1375
01:13:25,567 --> 01:13:29,066
Kristen Markey and Dave Sharples, something to that

1376
01:13:29,066 --> 01:13:30,066
- Effect.

1377
01:13:30,100 --> 01:13:31,033
- And they work it out pretty clearly.

1378
01:13:31,033 --> 01:13:32,066
They do a nice job with it.

1379
01:13:32,367 --> 01:13:36,834
- Yes, they do. - So at our last meeting,

1380
01:13:36,934 --> 01:13:38,066
I'm just looking at the notes 'cause

1381
01:13:38,066 --> 01:13:39,266
I remember this was discussed.

1382
01:13:39,266 --> 01:13:42,100
It says, Mr. Sharples noted in order for the density bonus,

1383
01:13:42,266 --> 01:13:44,033
the commission would need to accept the land.

1384
01:13:44,767 --> 01:13:47,266
So isn't that by default, like if they have

1385
01:13:47,266 --> 01:13:48,433
to accept the land, they're sort

1386
01:13:48,433 --> 01:13:50,133
of accepting the terms of the easement?

1387
01:13:51,700 --> 01:13:54,033
- Yes, but it, the, the type

1388
01:13:54,033 --> 01:13:55,767
of easement is where it was vague.

1389
01:13:56,567 --> 01:13:58,533
- Okay. - They, there were more than one,

1390
01:13:58,734 --> 01:14:01,133
there was more than one option for the type of easement.

1391
01:14:02,133 --> 01:14:05,066
So I think that's what needs to be ironed out the language

1392
01:14:05,133 --> 01:14:06,266
and type of the easement.

1393
01:14:07,166 --> 01:14:09,900
- Okay. But wouldn't that be like

1394
01:14:10,066 --> 01:14:12,567
by default be ironed out if they need to accept it?

1395
01:14:13,934 --> 01:14:15,834
I guess I'm just wondering if we need a condition for

1396
01:14:15,834 --> 01:14:16,834
- This.

1397
01:14:16,834 --> 01:14:19,133
I, I would feel safer having the condition more comfortable.

1398
01:14:19,333 --> 01:14:23,266
Okay, good. Just to dot the I's and cross the T's. All

1399
01:14:23,266 --> 01:14:24,266
- Right.

1400
01:14:27,634 --> 01:14:29,033
- I mean, I do trust Dave

1401
01:14:29,033 --> 01:14:31,300
and Kristen to do that. And for the,

1402
01:14:31,433 --> 01:14:32,700
- Oh, you've got the cheat sheet

1403
01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:33,900
- More.

1404
01:14:34,066 --> 01:14:36,233
- You do too, but yes.

1405
01:14:36,834 --> 01:14:40,767
- Oh, I see. I've been looking for that. Okay.

1406
01:14:41,367 --> 01:14:42,533
You said they'd leave it for me.

1407
01:14:44,367 --> 01:14:48,033
- I can get first. Okay. - Alright.

1408
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:49,333
- Alright.

1409
01:14:54,066 --> 01:14:56,066
- Okay. Are we ready to take some action here?

1410
01:14:58,033 --> 01:14:59,000
- Yeah. So

1411
01:15:04,166 --> 01:15:06,000
start with a conditional use permit.

1412
01:15:08,667 --> 01:15:12,033
- We have an open space subdivision motion.

1413
01:15:16,634 --> 01:15:21,567
- Okay. - That's a lot

1414
01:15:21,567 --> 01:15:23,834
line adjustment on the minor subdivision.

1415
01:15:27,533 --> 01:15:29,066
Someone like to make that motion.

1416
01:15:31,867 --> 01:15:32,867
Aren't we ready yet?

1417
01:15:33,867 --> 01:15:38,834
- Did we approve? I wasn't here. Did we approve?

1418
01:15:54,166 --> 01:15:55,233
Did we approve the yield

1419
01:15:55,300 --> 01:15:56,300
- Plan?

1420
01:15:56,300 --> 01:15:57,567
We didn't, but when I asked about it last,

1421
01:15:58,367 --> 01:16:00,567
- It's in the meeting minutes and one, that's

1422
01:16:00,567 --> 01:16:01,834
what I was trying to remember, which meeting

1423
01:16:02,500 --> 01:16:03,500
- I recall the question.

1424
01:16:03,500 --> 01:16:04,834
Basically Dave said like,

1425
01:16:05,033 --> 01:16:06,133
we don't really need

1426
01:16:06,133 --> 01:16:07,634
to vote on it. It's just like you, we kind

1427
01:16:07,634 --> 01:16:08,634
- Of did it by opening it.

1428
01:16:09,066 --> 01:16:10,333
- Well, no, not by opening.

1429
01:16:10,700 --> 01:16:12,467
I think he said when you, if you approve the plan,

1430
01:16:12,467 --> 01:16:14,500
then you're also approving the yield plan.

1431
01:16:14,667 --> 01:16:16,066
- Yeah, there was something. If we

1432
01:16:16,066 --> 01:16:18,734
- Don't approve of the yield plan, then that would,

1433
01:16:19,066 --> 01:16:20,066
that would've, but we don't need

1434
01:16:20,066 --> 01:16:23,266
to vote on the yield plan is what I understood. Said.

1435
01:16:23,667 --> 01:16:25,734
- Do remember Jen, - It's been a while since we,

1436
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:27,300
- In these meeting minutes somewhere.

1437
01:16:32,266 --> 01:16:33,834
- Shoot. Excuse - Me Ms.

1438
01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:40,033
- Martel's. So

1439
01:16:44,500 --> 01:16:46,000
I don't think it was this one.

1440
01:16:52,033 --> 01:16:54,133
I don't remember reading. We usually do the conditional

1441
01:16:54,734 --> 01:16:55,767
use permit first.

1442
01:16:58,133 --> 01:16:59,667
It's get it first in here.

1443
01:17:00,233 --> 01:17:02,066
Don't usually do the conditions for first

1444
01:17:03,033 --> 01:17:04,033
- Nancy.

1445
01:17:04,033 --> 01:17:06,266
It's line 3 42 of the thank you.

1446
01:17:06,700 --> 01:17:09,634
- Of the September 10, - Page nine of 10. See

1447
01:17:09,734 --> 01:17:11,100
- I was looking at the first one. First.

1448
01:17:11,467 --> 01:17:16,233
- September 10th 10. - Thank you. Thank you so much.

1449
01:17:16,233 --> 01:17:17,333
- This is the benefit of having it

1450
01:17:17,333 --> 01:17:18,533
digitally. I can do a control

1451
01:17:18,533 --> 01:17:19,533
- App.

1452
01:17:19,533 --> 01:17:20,767
Thank you. I think so. I'll get there one of these

1453
01:17:20,767 --> 01:17:21,767
- Days.

1454
01:17:21,767 --> 01:17:22,100
Oh, what's it say?

1455
01:17:23,033 --> 01:17:25,133
- Ms. Martel asked if the board had approved the

1456
01:17:25,133 --> 01:17:26,367
yield plan yet and Mr.

1457
01:17:26,500 --> 01:17:28,033
Sharples indicated that

1458
01:17:28,033 --> 01:17:30,100
by approving the plan they approved the yield

1459
01:17:30,166 --> 01:17:31,166
- Plan.

1460
01:17:33,333 --> 01:17:34,333
- Oh, okay. So

1461
01:17:35,767 --> 01:17:36,767
- Yeah.

1462
01:17:36,767 --> 01:17:40,100
Yeah, I I didn't remember that. Okay.

1463
01:17:40,834 --> 01:17:41,834
Thanks Jen.

1464
01:17:43,066 --> 01:17:47,500
- Yeah, that was August 27th. I just hadn't gotten that far.

1465
01:17:50,066 --> 01:17:55,000
- Okay. Oh, conditional use permit.

1466
01:17:55,166 --> 01:17:56,834
So do we have language here?

1467
01:17:57,900 --> 01:18:00,467
- Oh, we have these two little two approved.

1468
01:18:00,467 --> 01:18:01,934
We usually do this one first and then we do

1469
01:18:01,934 --> 01:18:03,000
that one, that one first.

1470
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,934
Okay. This one. All the conditions. Okay. You

1471
01:18:06,934 --> 01:18:07,934
- Know what I mean?

1472
01:18:07,934 --> 01:18:10,033
- This is just a, - So

1473
01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:11,500
- Yep.

1474
01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:13,100
- This - Is more,

1475
01:18:15,100 --> 01:18:16,100
- You know what I mean?

1476
01:18:21,567 --> 01:18:23,066
- I, I'm willing to make a motion.

1477
01:18:23,533 --> 01:18:27,567
- Okay. - I'm gonna make a motion

1478
01:18:27,567 --> 01:18:29,066
regarding the conditional use permit.

1479
01:18:30,667 --> 01:18:32,100
After reviewing the criteria

1480
01:18:32,133 --> 01:18:35,567
for wetlands conditional use permit, I move that the request

1481
01:18:35,567 --> 01:18:37,767
of BA be associates on behalf

1482
01:18:37,767 --> 01:18:40,867
of Stone Development Plan Board case number 26 dash one

1483
01:18:41,567 --> 01:18:43,767
for a conditional use permit be approved.

1484
01:18:47,033 --> 01:18:49,100
- Mr. Chair the - Discussion? Yes.

1485
01:18:51,066 --> 01:18:55,066
- There is a condition of approval requested

1486
01:18:55,066 --> 01:18:57,066
by the Conservation Commission

1487
01:18:57,066 --> 01:19:00,100
for the conditional use permit, which is the extent

1488
01:19:00,333 --> 01:19:03,300
of lawn's clearing delineated on the plans is marked on site

1489
01:19:03,300 --> 01:19:04,734
with boundary discs.

1490
01:19:06,266 --> 01:19:09,266
- Yeah. Just - On the second back page.

1491
01:19:10,133 --> 01:19:14,834
- Hmm? Get so much paper. I know it. Which

1492
01:19:14,834 --> 01:19:16,066
- One is that? It's the last one under.

1493
01:19:16,266 --> 01:19:19,734
- It's the last one. Oh, okay. Below all the other ones.

1494
01:19:20,133 --> 01:19:21,133
- Okay. Yeah.

1495
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,100
- It's also on our cheat sheet.

1496
01:19:26,333 --> 01:19:26,667
- Yeah.

1497
01:19:31,533 --> 01:19:33,100
So you'd like to add that as a condition?

1498
01:19:33,133 --> 01:19:34,867
- I would like to propose that, yeah,

1499
01:19:36,500 --> 01:19:37,900
the motion be amended with that

1500
01:19:38,133 --> 01:19:39,133
- As a condition on this.

1501
01:19:39,133 --> 01:19:43,300
As condition. Okay. Does the mover accept that? Yes. Okay.

1502
01:19:44,266 --> 01:19:45,634
Second it is there. Second.

1503
01:19:46,333 --> 01:19:51,000
- I'll second. - Okay. Jen second. Mr.

1504
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:52,133
Do hand vote please.

1505
01:19:52,767 --> 01:19:56,100
Those in favor please indicate for raising your right hand

1506
01:19:59,100 --> 01:20:02,300
opposed Abstentions carries.

1507
01:20:09,100 --> 01:20:12,500
Now you've got the detail vice chair,

1508
01:20:13,634 --> 01:20:17,033
you have the detail, you have to share the detail with

1509
01:20:17,033 --> 01:20:18,000
- All of this means I'm reading

1510
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,100
it. Is that what you're trying to tell me?

1511
01:20:19,300 --> 01:20:21,000
- Does this have to do with the open space

1512
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,333
subdivision motion first?

1513
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:24,467
- That's what would be part of, yep.

1514
01:20:26,233 --> 01:20:30,233
So while we discuss this as a board a little further,

1515
01:20:30,634 --> 01:20:34,000
right now Dave has a typical

1516
01:20:36,333 --> 01:20:39,266
11 conditions prepared that he usually reads.

1517
01:20:39,333 --> 01:20:41,734
But I think I'm gonna end up reading

1518
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,934
and then I had come up through this hearing with

1519
01:20:49,934 --> 01:20:51,467
number 12th

1520
01:20:51,500 --> 01:20:52,867
and the 13th, which I'll let

1521
01:20:52,867 --> 01:20:54,033
you folks know what I'm thinking.

1522
01:20:54,133 --> 01:20:58,934
So delete number 12 would be delete number 24 McKay

1523
01:20:58,934 --> 01:21:03,133
from the plan and then make number 14 McKay a duplex

1524
01:21:04,033 --> 01:21:08,100
that may maximize the building envelope while conforming

1525
01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:09,233
to all setbacks.

1526
01:21:11,634 --> 01:21:15,634
And then number 13, I was looking at adding

1527
01:21:17,333 --> 01:21:19,867
in regards to the open space density bonus

1528
01:21:21,467 --> 01:21:26,033
that the language be agreed upon by the applicant

1529
01:21:26,500 --> 01:21:29,000
and the town in terms of the details on the type

1530
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,000
of deed easement in terms.

1531
01:21:34,066 --> 01:21:37,867
Is that alright with you John? That's fine.

1532
01:21:37,867 --> 01:21:41,634
- That's perfect. - That's what I had.

1533
01:21:42,100 --> 01:21:43,500
Does anybody have anything else

1534
01:21:44,066 --> 01:21:45,066
- For the first condition?

1535
01:21:45,066 --> 01:21:47,533
Do we need to say something like it has to be reviewed by

1536
01:21:47,734 --> 01:21:49,233
and approved by the town planner?

1537
01:21:49,367 --> 01:21:50,467
Is that like implied?

1538
01:21:53,033 --> 01:21:54,634
- The design - Implied?

1539
01:21:54,667 --> 01:21:56,066
'cause he's gonna have to see all this other stuff too.

1540
01:21:56,066 --> 01:22:00,233
Yeah. You know what I mean? But I, in looking at

1541
01:22:00,233 --> 01:22:05,066
what it takes to do it, it's, you know,

1542
01:22:05,667 --> 01:22:06,500
I mean we actually had a

1543
01:22:06,500 --> 01:22:07,900
discussion I'll bring up real quick.

1544
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,100
But you can do a add a unit in a lot

1545
01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:13,867
of properties in this town already by Wright

1546
01:22:14,634 --> 01:22:16,000
without having to do anything.

1547
01:22:16,767 --> 01:22:18,000
That's the way our regs read.

1548
01:22:18,066 --> 01:22:20,000
But you have to, it has to be owner occupied.

1549
01:22:20,100 --> 01:22:21,166
So, you know,

1550
01:22:21,934 --> 01:22:23,634
I don't think there's much that they'd have to do.

1551
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,367
Probably the biggest thing is just making sure they're

1552
01:22:27,367 --> 01:22:28,500
within the boundaries, right?

1553
01:22:28,867 --> 01:22:30,467
Yeah. Modify the building envelope.

1554
01:22:33,700 --> 01:22:35,100
What are you thinking of? I can,

1555
01:22:35,033 --> 01:22:37,133
I can certainly add something Jen if you want me to.

1556
01:22:38,033 --> 01:22:40,433
- Yeah, I just wasn't sure if it needs

1557
01:22:40,433 --> 01:22:42,033
to be spelled out specifically.

1558
01:22:42,066 --> 01:22:44,533
But I mean you're right. I think eventually Dave

1559
01:22:44,533 --> 01:22:46,133
Sharples has to review everything.

1560
01:22:46,133 --> 01:22:47,233
Yeah. So he'll make sure that it

1561
01:22:47,734 --> 01:22:49,066
complies with all the setbacks.

1562
01:22:49,066 --> 01:22:50,867
- Right? So what we're requiring for,

1563
01:22:52,300 --> 01:22:55,367
what we're requiring is we're allowing them

1564
01:22:56,333 --> 01:22:58,433
to use the entire building envelope.

1565
01:22:58,867 --> 01:23:01,233
And that would be something that even code enforcer would

1566
01:23:01,233 --> 01:23:02,634
check for the issue.

1567
01:23:02,734 --> 01:23:06,100
A building permit. So I feel like we'd be okay

1568
01:23:07,166 --> 01:23:10,233
and it's, and the unit count stays at eight so,

1569
01:23:11,367 --> 01:23:14,233
- And do we wanna explicitly call out that it needs

1570
01:23:14,266 --> 01:23:16,767
to stay out of the 75 foot wetland buffer?

1571
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,467
- Yep. That a good one. Well

1572
01:23:20,500 --> 01:23:24,300
- I have in it they may maximize

1573
01:23:25,033 --> 01:23:28,100
the building envelope while conforming to all setbacks.

1574
01:23:29,700 --> 01:23:33,533
And I can say specifically or

1575
01:23:35,333 --> 01:23:36,467
- I - Dunno, what do you want me to say?

1576
01:23:36,934 --> 01:23:40,333
- Yes - And must not encroach on the

1577
01:23:40,333 --> 01:23:41,634
75 foot wheel and buffer.

1578
01:23:41,934 --> 01:23:44,033
- Okay. - The building envelope.

1579
01:23:51,900 --> 01:23:53,266
- Yeah, - I think that's fine.

1580
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,300
I do want to say that it is a little bit concerning

1581
01:24:01,567 --> 01:24:03,100
that you didn't show that on the plan.

1582
01:24:04,133 --> 01:24:07,066
- Show - What the 75 foot on the,

1583
01:24:08,066 --> 01:24:09,467
- It doesn't, there is no 70 foot.

1584
01:24:09,467 --> 01:24:10,767
It doesn't, I know it doesn't exist.

1585
01:24:11,133 --> 01:24:13,000
- But you didn't ask for a waiver either.

1586
01:24:14,367 --> 01:24:15,000
- Understood.

1587
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:20,233
- Anybody else wanna add anything else?

1588
01:24:22,767 --> 01:24:25,333
- I think we got - Worked out.

1589
01:24:26,634 --> 01:24:28,100
- Alright, so what I'll do is I'll

1590
01:24:28,100 --> 01:24:29,567
start, I'll make a motion.

1591
01:24:29,667 --> 01:24:31,033
I'll start to read the conditions.

1592
01:24:31,467 --> 01:24:34,033
Feel free to interrupt if something comes to mind

1593
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:37,033
'cause it's a long reading.

1594
01:24:37,467 --> 01:24:39,033
I really would love an interruption.

1595
01:24:39,734 --> 01:24:40,100
Alright,

1596
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,734
in regards to open space subdivision motion, I move

1597
01:24:47,900 --> 01:24:51,734
that the request of BA be associates on behalf

1598
01:24:51,734 --> 01:24:54,500
of Stone Ash development plan Board case number 26 dash one

1599
01:24:54,500 --> 01:24:57,567
for a lot line adjustment, minor subdivision

1600
01:24:57,700 --> 01:25:00,133
and site plan approval be approved

1601
01:25:00,166 --> 01:25:01,834
with the following conditions.

1602
01:25:04,467 --> 01:25:07,333
Number one, an electronic as-built plan

1603
01:25:07,333 --> 01:25:09,033
with details acceptable to town be

1604
01:25:09,333 --> 01:25:11,767
provided prior to issuance of a certificate of occupancy.

1605
01:25:12,266 --> 01:25:17,066
This plan must be in A DWG or A DXT file format.

1606
01:25:17,467 --> 01:25:19,333
N-N-A-N-A-D 1983.

1607
01:25:19,433 --> 01:25:24,133
State plain New Hampshire FIPS 2,800

1608
01:25:24,433 --> 01:25:25,734
feet coordinates.

1609
01:25:26,367 --> 01:25:27,734
- I'm gonna stop you for a minute. Yep.

1610
01:25:28,500 --> 01:25:30,266
I think we need to pass this one here.

1611
01:25:31,900 --> 01:25:36,100
First plot line adjustment because of they're all together.

1612
01:25:36,734 --> 01:25:38,133
They're all together. Okay.

1613
01:25:40,100 --> 01:25:43,000
- Paul, they're all together. - Yeah,

1614
01:25:43,734 --> 01:25:44,734
- It's one.

1615
01:25:46,700 --> 01:25:49,934
- Alright. - Do you want me to do it a different way?

1616
01:25:50,533 --> 01:25:52,133
- No, that's fine. Okay. You sure?

1617
01:25:53,467 --> 01:25:55,834
- I think that's what Sharples was

1618
01:25:56,133 --> 01:25:57,133
- Heading towards.

1619
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,133
I think so. Yeah. Okay.

1620
01:25:59,567 --> 01:26:02,233
- Two. A pre-construction meeting shall be arranged

1621
01:26:02,266 --> 01:26:04,567
by the applicant and is contracted

1622
01:26:04,567 --> 01:26:07,033
with the town engineer prior to any site work commencing.

1623
01:26:07,467 --> 01:26:09,133
The following must be submitted for review

1624
01:26:09,133 --> 01:26:11,233
and approval prior to the pre-construction meeting.

1625
01:26:12,700 --> 01:26:16,634
One. The S-W-P-P-P stormwater pollution

1626
01:26:16,634 --> 01:26:18,066
prevention plan if applicable.

1627
01:26:18,066 --> 01:26:22,166
And two, A project schedule and construction cost estimate.

1628
01:26:23,133 --> 01:26:26,000
Three third party construction inspection fee shall be paid

1629
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,433
prior to scheduling the pre-construction meeting.

1630
01:26:29,233 --> 01:26:31,100
Four. The annual port section

1631
01:26:31,133 --> 01:26:34,834
of the storm water management BMP inspection

1632
01:26:34,867 --> 01:26:37,100
and maintenance plan dated May 26.

1633
01:26:37,100 --> 01:26:41,133
2026 shall be revised by removing upon request

1634
01:26:41,066 --> 01:26:43,734
and adding language that the annual report shall be

1635
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:45,867
provided to the town engineer annually without

1636
01:26:45,867 --> 01:26:47,100
any action by the town.

1637
01:26:47,767 --> 01:26:49,834
The revise report shall be reviewed

1638
01:26:49,834 --> 01:26:51,900
and approved by the town planner prior

1639
01:26:51,934 --> 01:26:53,166
to signing the final plans.

1640
01:26:54,066 --> 01:26:55,567
Five. The inspection

1641
01:26:55,567 --> 01:26:58,900
and maintenance manual log form in the stormwater management

1642
01:26:59,367 --> 01:27:02,166
BMP inspection and maintenance plan dated May 26.

1643
01:27:02,166 --> 01:27:04,500
2026 shall be completed

1644
01:27:04,500 --> 01:27:07,166
and submitted to the town engineer annually on or

1645
01:27:07,166 --> 01:27:08,467
before January 31st.

1646
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,100
This requirement shall be ongoing condition of approval

1647
01:27:12,133 --> 01:27:14,834
and including in the con condominium documents.

1648
01:27:16,333 --> 01:27:19,033
Six. All comments in the review letter from

1649
01:27:19,033 --> 01:27:20,900
underwater under Underwood.

1650
01:27:21,033 --> 01:27:23,467
Engineers dated September.

1651
01:27:24,100 --> 01:27:27,333
They're struggling over there dated September 17th.

1652
01:27:27,333 --> 01:27:30,634
2026 shall be addressed to the satisfaction

1653
01:27:30,634 --> 01:27:32,734
of the town planner and town engineer

1654
01:27:34,033 --> 01:27:36,834
or the designee prior to signing the final plans.

1655
01:27:37,867 --> 01:27:41,100
Number seven. All condominium documents,

1656
01:27:41,100 --> 01:27:42,100
including the declaration

1657
01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:44,266
and bylaws shall be submitted to the town planning

1658
01:27:44,333 --> 01:27:47,367
for review and approval prior to signing the final plans.

1659
01:27:48,133 --> 01:27:51,033
Condominium documents to include maintenance requirements

1660
01:27:51,066 --> 01:27:53,700
for all storm water practices shown on the plans

1661
01:27:53,767 --> 01:27:56,133
and other applicable conditions of this approval.

1662
01:27:56,767 --> 01:27:58,634
Review of the condominium documents

1663
01:27:58,634 --> 01:28:01,100
by the town's attorney shall be at the applicant's expense.

1664
01:28:02,033 --> 01:28:05,567
Eight. All applicable state permit approval numbers shall be

1665
01:28:05,567 --> 01:28:06,734
noted on the final plans.

1666
01:28:07,133 --> 01:28:08,934
All appropriate fees to be paid, including

1667
01:28:08,934 --> 01:28:12,233
but not limited to, sewer, water connection fees,

1668
01:28:12,500 --> 01:28:14,166
impact fees, and inspection fees,

1669
01:28:14,166 --> 01:28:17,100
including third party inspections prior to the issuance

1670
01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:18,900
of a certificate of occupancy.

1671
01:28:20,333 --> 01:28:22,734
Almost there. Nine.

1672
01:28:23,567 --> 01:28:26,467
All landscaping shown on plan shall be maintained in

1673
01:28:26,500 --> 01:28:28,033
any dead or dying.

1674
01:28:28,066 --> 01:28:31,100
Vegetation shall be replaced no later than the following

1675
01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:34,166
growing season as long as the site plan remains valid.

1676
01:28:35,133 --> 01:28:37,700
10. All lighting, including security lights,

1677
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,900
shall be down lit and shielded so no direct light is visible

1678
01:28:41,367 --> 01:28:43,367
from adjacent properties or roadways.

1679
01:28:44,066 --> 01:28:47,266
And 11, the applicant shall submit the land use

1680
01:28:47,266 --> 01:28:49,100
and stormwater management information

1681
01:28:49,100 --> 01:28:50,133
about the product used.

1682
01:28:50,266 --> 01:28:53,166
The Ptap online municipal tracking tool,

1683
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,266
the PTA submittal must be accepted by DPW prior

1684
01:28:57,266 --> 01:28:58,500
to the pre-construction meeting.

1685
01:29:09,634 --> 01:29:10,133
12.

1686
01:29:15,934 --> 01:29:19,166
Delete number 24 McKay Drive make number 14,

1687
01:29:19,333 --> 01:29:21,166
McKay drive a duplex

1688
01:29:21,900 --> 01:29:25,066
that may maximize the building envelope while conforming

1689
01:29:25,066 --> 01:29:26,133
to all setbacks

1690
01:29:26,567 --> 01:29:30,233
and not encroach on the 75 foot wetlands buffer.

1691
01:29:32,266 --> 01:29:36,333
Number 13. In regards to the open space density bonus,

1692
01:29:37,033 --> 01:29:38,634
the language and details

1693
01:29:38,667 --> 01:29:41,166
regarding the conservation interest in the land

1694
01:29:42,100 --> 01:29:43,133
will be revised

1695
01:29:43,266 --> 01:29:47,934
and agreed upon in the details regarding the type of deed,

1696
01:29:48,033 --> 01:29:50,033
easement terms and the conservation boundary.

1697
01:29:51,734 --> 01:29:52,000
And then

1698
01:29:58,133 --> 01:30:01,000
number 14, the extent

1699
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,467
of lawn's clearing will be delineated on

1700
01:30:03,467 --> 01:30:04,533
the plans. Marked that

1701
01:30:04,767 --> 01:30:05,767
- That was on the CP.

1702
01:30:06,066 --> 01:30:08,000
- Okay. All right. We're already good with it. All right.

1703
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:11,467
'cause we have it on here twice. Okay. Delete. 14.

1704
01:30:12,367 --> 01:30:14,066
Anybody have anything else? No.

1705
01:30:15,300 --> 01:30:16,300
- My - Apologies to

1706
01:30:16,300 --> 01:30:17,233
- Underwater you drink.

1707
01:30:17,233 --> 01:30:21,100
You did great. Whatever things happen. I will second that.

1708
01:30:21,367 --> 01:30:23,500
- Okay. - Okay. Moved and seconded.

1709
01:30:24,767 --> 01:30:28,367
Any discussion again, A hand vote please.

1710
01:30:28,867 --> 01:30:33,333
Those in favor, please use your right hand for aye. Opposed?

1711
01:30:34,100 --> 01:30:36,133
Ab abstentions. Gentlemen,

1712
01:30:36,367 --> 01:30:37,367
- Thank you very much.

1713
01:30:37,367 --> 01:30:38,734
Thank you. Thanks for working with

1714
01:30:39,066 --> 01:30:40,066
- The hammer came down.

1715
01:30:41,667 --> 01:30:46,166
- Good luck with your project. - Thank you

1716
01:30:46,166 --> 01:30:48,333
for your patience and giving us a little extra time.

1717
01:30:58,567 --> 01:31:02,133
- Let's see, where's my Goodnight.

1718
01:31:04,066 --> 01:31:05,066
Thank you.

1719
01:31:07,734 --> 01:31:10,100
- Okay, next on the agenda this evening.

1720
01:31:10,567 --> 01:31:14,367
Thank you for your patience application of Dere

1721
01:31:14,500 --> 01:31:17,266
and Seth Roberts for a conditional use permit

1722
01:31:17,367 --> 01:31:19,867
to restore three areas of buffer,

1723
01:31:20,066 --> 01:31:24,133
totaling 839 square feet by removing lawn

1724
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,000
and installing buffer plantings.

1725
01:31:26,266 --> 01:31:29,667
The subject of property is located at 26 Waley Street

1726
01:31:30,367 --> 01:31:34,100
on the R two single family zoning district tax map

1727
01:31:34,100 --> 01:31:35,467
54 lots.

1728
01:31:35,734 --> 01:31:39,266
Five dash two highly ward case number 26

1729
01:31:39,900 --> 01:31:41,000
dash 17.

1730
01:31:42,233 --> 01:31:44,000
And who do we have to speak to that please?

1731
01:31:44,900 --> 01:31:46,634
- Thank you, Mr. Chairman. For the record,

1732
01:31:46,767 --> 01:31:51,233
my name is Mark Jacobs, certified Wetland and Soil Scientist

1733
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,500
and the wetland scientist of record for this project.

1734
01:31:57,133 --> 01:32:00,767
I first set foot on this property back in 2015.

1735
01:32:00,867 --> 01:32:02,300
- Could you speak closer to the microphone

1736
01:32:02,333 --> 01:32:04,533
so everybody like me can hear? Thank you.

1737
01:32:04,867 --> 01:32:08,333
- Sorry, miss a Sorry. Is that better? Thank you. Thank you.

1738
01:32:09,233 --> 01:32:11,767
Let's see again for the record, Mark Jacobs,

1739
01:32:11,767 --> 01:32:13,634
certified Wetland and soil scientist

1740
01:32:13,667 --> 01:32:17,033
and the wetland scientist of record for this project,

1741
01:32:17,867 --> 01:32:19,867
which I first set foot on back in 2015.

1742
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:22,934
And I recognized a number of

1743
01:32:23,066 --> 01:32:27,767
of faces here from the 20 17 20 18 time period when we

1744
01:32:27,767 --> 01:32:29,300
were in front of, do

1745
01:32:29,300 --> 01:32:30,300
- We still look as good?

1746
01:32:32,433 --> 01:32:34,033
- Better. Better, thank you.

1747
01:32:36,900 --> 01:32:40,333
20 17, 20 18 when we were in front of you for, for

1748
01:32:41,033 --> 01:32:42,066
approvals for the, the project.

1749
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:47,700
This, this application is for one lot, lot two

1750
01:32:48,634 --> 01:32:52,000
within the subdivision, which is 26 wobbly.

1751
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:57,700
And due to a communication, too many,

1752
01:32:57,867 --> 01:33:02,333
too many players, if you will, miscommunication between,

1753
01:33:03,500 --> 01:33:05,834
oh, and I should, let me back up for a moment.

1754
01:33:06,033 --> 01:33:07,700
With me this evening is Mr.

1755
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:09,266
Seth, Robert, the property owner

1756
01:33:09,667 --> 01:33:14,467
and Matt Silva from Profile Homes,

1757
01:33:15,033 --> 01:33:17,567
who, who's built all the homes at,

1758
01:33:18,100 --> 01:33:20,266
out in Rose Farm, if you will.

1759
01:33:24,734 --> 01:33:28,100
So due to miscommunication between

1760
01:33:30,133 --> 01:33:34,734
Mr. Silva, the Roberts, the surveyors,

1761
01:33:35,266 --> 01:33:38,233
the, the, the folks who did some tree clearing out there

1762
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:41,266
and grading as well.

1763
01:33:42,133 --> 01:33:44,033
Something got lost in the communication

1764
01:33:44,700 --> 01:33:47,867
and part of the buffer that wasn't supposed to get cleared

1765
01:33:47,867 --> 01:33:52,700
of trees or converted to to lawn did get cleared

1766
01:33:52,700 --> 01:33:55,500
of trees and converted to lawn a total of

1767
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,867
a little over a thousand square feet out there.

1768
01:34:00,500 --> 01:34:05,000
And we've, we've submitted an application to

1769
01:34:05,667 --> 01:34:10,233
retain some of that clearing, restore some of it

1770
01:34:10,467 --> 01:34:15,000
as well, and install a, a fence as well

1771
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:20,066
because the, the, the Roberts have two small children,

1772
01:34:20,734 --> 01:34:23,700
very small children, ages two and four I think.

1773
01:34:24,567 --> 01:34:29,100
And this lot has very steep slopes on three sides

1774
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,100
of, of, of, of the property.

1775
01:34:34,367 --> 01:34:37,266
And we, we met with the conservation commission

1776
01:34:38,367 --> 01:34:40,634
back in August on the 11th

1777
01:34:41,133 --> 01:34:42,834
and they had

1778
01:34:43,767 --> 01:34:46,000
some concerns to say the least.

1779
01:34:46,934 --> 01:34:51,500
And we had a very thorough vetting, if you will.

1780
01:34:52,033 --> 01:34:55,467
I believe in the end they voted six to one to, to

1781
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:58,867
recommend that the CUP

1782
01:34:59,567 --> 01:35:03,033
that you folks approve the CUP for this location.

1783
01:35:05,233 --> 01:35:08,000
I can, I can dive in a little deeper,

1784
01:35:08,700 --> 01:35:11,133
but at this point I'm just inclined to open it up

1785
01:35:11,133 --> 01:35:14,033
to questions if you folks have questions in the,

1786
01:35:14,033 --> 01:35:16,000
in the interest of not keeping you

1787
01:35:16,734 --> 01:35:18,100
any later than we have to.

1788
01:35:18,567 --> 01:35:23,500
- Okay. - And I,

1789
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,867
I guess I was of the impression that the, the plan

1790
01:35:27,300 --> 01:35:28,500
would be up on the screen,

1791
01:35:28,634 --> 01:35:30,100
but maybe you have it, maybe

1792
01:35:30,100 --> 01:35:32,333
you all have it in front of you. The package? No,

1793
01:35:32,333 --> 01:35:33,333
- We have it.

1794
01:35:33,333 --> 01:35:37,100
We have it. Okay. We have pictures and the Okay. Plan. Yes.

1795
01:35:37,734 --> 01:35:40,233
- And I, I put together a pretty thorough narrative

1796
01:35:40,734 --> 01:35:42,634
addressing all the various criteria.

1797
01:35:45,533 --> 01:35:49,834
- I, I'll just review the confirmation commission

1798
01:35:50,667 --> 01:35:53,834
have two, have conditions that they're requesting

1799
01:35:54,634 --> 01:35:55,834
the planning board consider.

1800
01:35:55,900 --> 01:35:57,834
One is planning seating will be complete

1801
01:35:57,900 --> 01:36:00,066
by October 10th, 2026.

1802
01:36:01,233 --> 01:36:04,533
And secondly, the buffer boundary discs are to be installed

1803
01:36:04,667 --> 01:36:08,734
and confirmed by staff by October 10th, 2026. Right.

1804
01:36:09,100 --> 01:36:11,233
- And we're prepared to, to do that. We've been,

1805
01:36:11,467 --> 01:36:12,467
- I'm assuming that Yeah.

1806
01:36:12,500 --> 01:36:14,033
- Okay. Yeah. That was acceptable to us.

1807
01:36:14,166 --> 01:36:16,500
And, and, and we've been gearing up to do

1808
01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:18,734
that in anticipation of this meeting.

1809
01:36:19,100 --> 01:36:22,000
Yeah. And which 'cause our meeting with them was

1810
01:36:22,500 --> 01:36:24,033
- A day - And time six weeks ago now. Yeah.

1811
01:36:24,166 --> 01:36:26,266
- It's getting cooler - Quite some time ago now. So

1812
01:36:26,266 --> 01:36:28,066
- Notice that the moon's out tonight

1813
01:36:28,066 --> 01:36:29,333
going chill us a little more.

1814
01:36:29,433 --> 01:36:33,834
Yeah. Any questions, comments, concerns,

1815
01:36:33,834 --> 01:36:34,834
- Thoughts?

1816
01:36:34,834 --> 01:36:35,533
I've watched the meeting it

1817
01:36:36,033 --> 01:36:38,567
and the letter covered really they're short letter,

1818
01:36:38,667 --> 01:36:40,100
the conservation commission letter

1819
01:36:40,133 --> 01:36:42,100
to us covered it really well.

1820
01:36:43,533 --> 01:36:47,100
I mean, I, it was pretty clear there was a lot of uniqueness

1821
01:36:47,367 --> 01:36:51,567
as it says in the letter, the, you know, I did want

1822
01:36:51,567 --> 01:36:54,867
to point out that the last paragraph in the ation commission

1823
01:36:55,367 --> 01:36:58,500
that they were concerned about setting a precedent,

1824
01:36:58,567 --> 01:37:00,266
but felt that there was enough uniqueness

1825
01:37:01,066 --> 01:37:03,233
in this particular site to distinguish it from others.

1826
01:37:05,100 --> 01:37:08,033
So that was a big discussion. Yeah.

1827
01:37:08,467 --> 01:37:10,934
Ation commission about setting the precedent. Yep.

1828
01:37:11,567 --> 01:37:16,233
But I appreciated the conversation that hap the conversation

1829
01:37:16,233 --> 01:37:18,700
that happened at the Constitution Commission

1830
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:22,834
and how everyone was trying to work together to rectify it

1831
01:37:22,867 --> 01:37:24,066
and find dates that we will,

1832
01:37:24,667 --> 01:37:26,133
we'll actually work for everyone.

1833
01:37:26,333 --> 01:37:27,333
So

1834
01:37:30,266 --> 01:37:31,266
- Anybody else?

1835
01:37:34,333 --> 01:37:36,734
- I think it would be helpful if you could just kind

1836
01:37:36,734 --> 01:37:39,033
of give us a short version of just walking us

1837
01:37:39,033 --> 01:37:40,834
through the proposed approach

1838
01:37:42,834 --> 01:37:44,100
as indicated on the plan.

1839
01:37:46,133 --> 01:37:49,767
- Yeah, I, I should, I'll start at the end and,

1840
01:37:49,900 --> 01:37:51,000
and work my way backwards.

1841
01:37:52,734 --> 01:37:55,700
One of the elements of the restoration proposal, two is

1842
01:37:57,433 --> 01:38:01,634
we've allotted annual inspections

1843
01:38:02,100 --> 01:38:06,066
for two years after these plantings are, are installed

1844
01:38:06,133 --> 01:38:08,033
and lawn is moved

1845
01:38:08,066 --> 01:38:11,033
and there's a swing set that's also proposed to be moved out

1846
01:38:11,033 --> 01:38:13,767
of the buffer and that area is restored as well.

1847
01:38:14,433 --> 01:38:18,700
And so we'll be, I'll be monitoring this area

1848
01:38:18,867 --> 01:38:21,333
for two more years going forward

1849
01:38:21,367 --> 01:38:24,533
and submitting status reports to, to, to the town

1850
01:38:25,100 --> 01:38:26,100
for, for their review.

1851
01:38:27,333 --> 01:38:30,500
If you look in my letter of July 8th,

1852
01:38:33,133 --> 01:38:37,634
we we're proposing in the, the lawn area that is proposed

1853
01:38:37,700 --> 01:38:42,033
to be restored, we'll be seeding that with red top and,

1854
01:38:42,033 --> 01:38:46,467
and switch grass and installing shrubs, gray dog, wood

1855
01:38:47,333 --> 01:38:48,533
beak, hazelnut and,

1856
01:38:48,567 --> 01:38:52,333
and highbush blueberry with a minimum height of, of four

1857
01:38:52,333 --> 01:38:57,000
to five feet each, six to feet, six to eight feet on center

1858
01:38:58,367 --> 01:39:02,266
as well for a total of of 15 shrubs.

1859
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:04,934
And the, and, and,

1860
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:08,233
and just so you know, the expectation is

1861
01:39:08,233 --> 01:39:12,533
that this won't be a landscape bed that it, it might look

1862
01:39:12,533 --> 01:39:15,266
that way initially upon, upon planting,

1863
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,000
but it's to be left

1864
01:39:18,367 --> 01:39:22,066
to its own devices after that.

1865
01:39:22,266 --> 01:39:24,467
And so whatever seeds in there

1866
01:39:24,634 --> 01:39:28,066
or there are oak trees, there's a massive oak nearby

1867
01:39:28,500 --> 01:39:31,033
that I'm sure will be dropping acorns in this area.

1868
01:39:31,133 --> 01:39:33,567
So I, I expect we'll have a few oak trees in

1869
01:39:33,567 --> 01:39:35,133
there before long as well.

1870
01:39:36,567 --> 01:39:39,834
This area is intended to just be left alone,

1871
01:39:40,066 --> 01:39:41,467
the restored areas to intended

1872
01:39:41,467 --> 01:39:43,567
to be left alone going forward.

1873
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,333
So again, it probably will look a lot like a landscape area

1874
01:39:47,533 --> 01:39:52,100
initially, but I think by the time two years is up, it it,

1875
01:39:52,166 --> 01:39:53,834
it definitely will not.

1876
01:39:54,100 --> 01:39:56,867
So does that answer your question

1877
01:39:57,934 --> 01:39:58,934
- Detail?

1878
01:39:58,934 --> 01:40:02,934
Like if I'm looking at the plan, there's like a cyan

1879
01:40:03,567 --> 01:40:06,100
area that says area to be restored

1880
01:40:07,634 --> 01:40:10,066
per July 8th buffer restoration program.

1881
01:40:11,367 --> 01:40:15,000
So that's the area that the new shrubs will be going in?

1882
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:19,533
Correct. Okay. And then the orange area is area

1883
01:40:19,700 --> 01:40:23,033
to remain as lawn, so that's just no change, is that right?

1884
01:40:23,734 --> 01:40:25,634
- Yeah, I guess that's one way to look at it. Sure.

1885
01:40:26,066 --> 01:40:29,066
- And then so where, where's the seating happening

1886
01:40:29,667 --> 01:40:31,767
- In, in that sort of cyan colored area?

1887
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,033
Okay. As well as the two green areas

1888
01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:36,467
to the right, to the east.

1889
01:40:37,166 --> 01:40:40,367
- Okay. - Where that's the, the mulch bed

1890
01:40:40,634 --> 01:40:43,100
where the swing set currently sits.

1891
01:40:43,867 --> 01:40:46,700
And, and the mulch will be removed in those areas

1892
01:40:46,900 --> 01:40:48,934
and that will be seeded and planted as well.

1893
01:40:50,066 --> 01:40:53,834
And the swing set will be moved to the southwest

1894
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:58,066
out onto other existing lawn, but outside of the buffer.

1895
01:40:58,634 --> 01:40:59,634
Okay.

1896
01:41:03,734 --> 01:41:04,867
- And then a fence is going

1897
01:41:04,867 --> 01:41:06,767
to be installed around the perimeter.

1898
01:41:06,934 --> 01:41:08,734
- Yes. And that fence will tie into the house

1899
01:41:08,734 --> 01:41:09,867
in two locations.

1900
01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:14,367
So, you know, you know, it's not a,

1901
01:41:14,634 --> 01:41:17,100
a privacy fence so much as it is a safety,

1902
01:41:18,033 --> 01:41:20,734
it's a safety fence to make sure the kids can't,

1903
01:41:21,033 --> 01:41:23,867
can't get out and,

1904
01:41:23,934 --> 01:41:26,834
and tumble down those, tumble down those slopes.

1905
01:41:26,834 --> 01:41:28,834
It's pretty steep, especially in the rear

1906
01:41:29,266 --> 01:41:30,567
and to the, to the east.

1907
01:41:31,567 --> 01:41:34,033
And, and then the other, the other hazard that,

1908
01:41:34,500 --> 01:41:36,467
that the Roberts were concerned about is

1909
01:41:36,467 --> 01:41:40,467
that the drainage easement that supports gravel wetland,

1910
01:41:43,133 --> 01:41:45,500
I lose track gravel wetland four

1911
01:41:46,567 --> 01:41:48,033
is on their property as well.

1912
01:41:48,166 --> 01:41:51,500
And there are times, like this weekend for example,

1913
01:41:52,066 --> 01:41:55,166
if we get the rain, they're talking about that thing may

1914
01:41:55,767 --> 01:41:59,734
have as much as two to three feet of water in it for as long

1915
01:41:59,734 --> 01:42:04,100
as 48 to 72 hours while it drains down.

1916
01:42:06,066 --> 01:42:09,734
And that, that was a concern that Roberts had as well.

1917
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:14,867
And that's why another reason for the fence, they,

1918
01:42:14,867 --> 01:42:17,634
they didn't want their children to become statistics.

1919
01:42:34,867 --> 01:42:37,900
- Is that okay, Jen? - Yeah, no, I appreciate

1920
01:42:37,900 --> 01:42:39,000
that explanation.

1921
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:40,767
Yeah. Good. It's a little, a little hard to follow

1922
01:42:40,767 --> 01:42:44,867
between the text and the plans, but that's great.

1923
01:42:47,567 --> 01:42:51,533
- Any other questions? - Will the fence be

1924
01:42:52,767 --> 01:42:54,867
installed after the restoration?

1925
01:42:57,266 --> 01:43:01,867
- Yes. - Yes.

1926
01:43:02,734 --> 01:43:06,934
- Okay. - Hopefully

1927
01:43:06,934 --> 01:43:08,100
simultaneously too.

1928
01:43:08,100 --> 01:43:11,634
They, they've had their fence contractor on standby

1929
01:43:12,066 --> 01:43:14,734
for the better part of probably a year

1930
01:43:14,734 --> 01:43:18,500
and a half now while all these details worked out.

1931
01:43:18,634 --> 01:43:23,533
And one, one of the reasons for that is, again, just trying

1932
01:43:23,533 --> 01:43:26,033
to get to come to an understanding.

1933
01:43:28,066 --> 01:43:31,300
My schedule also contributed to the, to the length

1934
01:43:31,300 --> 01:43:33,233
of time it's taken for us to get to this point.

1935
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,266
So I I've, I've got some culpability there myself. But

1936
01:43:38,100 --> 01:43:40,700
- Why was the fence line chosen?

1937
01:43:41,500 --> 01:43:46,033
The northern portion of it chosen there as opposed to

1938
01:43:46,066 --> 01:43:48,867
between the lawn and the restoration area?

1939
01:43:50,100 --> 01:43:52,033
- Just for straight lines Really?

1940
01:43:53,567 --> 01:43:56,133
It, it, and it, it, it also follows it, it, it,

1941
01:43:56,133 --> 01:44:00,467
it may not be perfectly apparent from this drawing,

1942
01:44:00,934 --> 01:44:02,066
but it, it more

1943
01:44:02,066 --> 01:44:03,033
or less follows the, the breaking

1944
01:44:03,100 --> 01:44:04,433
slope, the top of the slope.

1945
01:44:15,033 --> 01:44:19,533
- Okay. - But I see kinda what you're asking Dean,

1946
01:44:19,867 --> 01:44:21,567
it the fence goes through the

1947
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:27,000
restored wetland portion there that they're restoring

1948
01:44:27,533 --> 01:44:31,000
- Well it's not wetland, but it is wetland buffer. It's

1949
01:44:31,066 --> 01:44:32,066
- Okay - In the buffer.

1950
01:44:32,066 --> 01:44:33,533
The fence does go through, through the buffer.

1951
01:44:34,033 --> 01:44:36,100
It isn't a solid fence, it's a,

1952
01:44:37,033 --> 01:44:39,000
I guess it could be described as a chain link fence.

1953
01:44:39,066 --> 01:44:42,567
Okay. It, it'll be, it'll have openings along the bottom

1954
01:44:42,834 --> 01:44:44,700
for small wildlife.

1955
01:44:45,567 --> 01:44:47,700
You know, any deer

1956
01:44:47,700 --> 01:44:49,867
that might be interested in entering the yard,

1957
01:44:50,066 --> 01:44:51,867
probably gonna have to jump over the top, but,

1958
01:44:59,100 --> 01:45:01,667
so wildlife will be able to pass through the area.

1959
01:45:01,734 --> 01:45:03,100
Small, small wildlife.

1960
01:45:04,233 --> 01:45:07,500
- No bears, huh? - Probably let's,

1961
01:45:07,500 --> 01:45:09,867
unless they climb it, they can climb trees.

1962
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,133
They can climb climb fence. They can climb a fence.

1963
01:45:13,266 --> 01:45:18,066
- They sure can. Alright.

1964
01:45:28,700 --> 01:45:29,834
- Any thoughts, questions?

1965
01:45:32,667 --> 01:45:35,266
Anyone prepared to make a motion?

1966
01:45:36,367 --> 01:45:37,867
- I will make it if, okay.

1967
01:45:37,867 --> 01:45:41,867
If I can get the correct pronunciation of Mrs.

1968
01:45:41,867 --> 01:45:45,634
Robert's name? Deidra. Deidra. Thank you.

1969
01:45:46,133 --> 01:45:49,867
I was probably not gonna get that right so I move

1970
01:45:49,867 --> 01:45:53,033
that the request of Mark E. Jacobs on behalf of Deidra

1971
01:45:53,033 --> 01:45:56,734
and Seth Robert Planning board case number 26 dash 17

1972
01:45:57,266 --> 01:45:59,567
for a wetlands conditional use permit be approved

1973
01:45:59,567 --> 01:46:01,834
with the following two conditions.

1974
01:46:02,133 --> 01:46:05,133
One, planting seeding will be completed

1975
01:46:05,133 --> 01:46:07,533
by October 10th, 2026

1976
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:11,767
and two buffer boundary discs shall be installed

1977
01:46:11,767 --> 01:46:13,734
and confirmed by Staff town.

1978
01:46:13,734 --> 01:46:17,133
Staff on or before October 10th, 2026.

1979
01:46:19,033 --> 01:46:23,333
- Thank you. Is there a second? I second. Thank you Dean.

1980
01:46:25,233 --> 01:46:29,066
Any other discussion? We'll do a hand and vote again please.

1981
01:46:29,066 --> 01:46:33,667
Those in favor raise your right hand opposed Abstentions.

1982
01:46:35,433 --> 01:46:36,433
Have it. You're all set.

1983
01:46:36,934 --> 01:46:39,133
- Thank you very much for your time. Thank

1984
01:46:39,133 --> 01:46:40,133
- You.

1985
01:46:40,133 --> 01:46:40,066
Good luck.

1986
01:46:40,900 --> 01:46:42,533
- The sun moving that swing set.

1987
01:46:44,900 --> 01:46:46,300
- Boy, does that look like a good time?

1988
01:46:47,266 --> 01:46:48,266
- Hands - In the neighborhood

1989
01:46:48,266 --> 01:46:49,166
- There.

1990
01:46:49,333 --> 01:46:53,767
Oh good. People in the neighborhood helped.

1991
01:46:54,233 --> 01:46:55,133
I love that. Thank you.

1992
01:46:56,567 --> 01:46:59,300
Alright, sorry.

1993
01:47:04,634 --> 01:47:05,634
Okay.

1994
01:47:06,500 --> 01:47:09,066
- Alright. Next on the plan here,

1995
01:47:12,133 --> 01:47:14,000
our planner is on the road somewhere.

1996
01:47:14,066 --> 01:47:15,834
I think he's headed towards Hampton now.

1997
01:47:18,266 --> 01:47:19,867
I won't say why, but any rate,

1998
01:47:24,066 --> 01:47:26,834
I don't think there's anything else that we can respond

1999
01:47:26,867 --> 01:47:29,066
to other than the motion.

2000
01:47:29,900 --> 01:47:33,467
Vice chair to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. Okay. Thank you.

2001
01:47:33,634 --> 01:47:35,300
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2002
01:47:35,500 --> 01:47:39,033
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2003
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:42,467
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