1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:10,639 Thank you. Good evening, Mr. Chair, board of supervisors, manager, and 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:13,920 members of the public. My name is Steve Schaefer. I'm the acting chief 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:18,160 presenting the township's police department's 2026 proposed budget. So, 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:22,720 thank you all for being here. Thank you for members who are of the public who 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,840 are listening on live stream. On behalf of the police department, we just want 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,279 to thank the community for your support of our officers as they protect and 7 00:00:27,599 --> 00:00:33,920 serve this community with professionalism, courage, and integrity. 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:38,640 Many of you know the police department does consume half of the the township's 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:45,920 overall budget. We try to be very responsible with that. We're here 247 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:50,079 365 days a year. And it's vital for public safety that we're well equipped, 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:55,120 well trained, and that officers officers are compensated well. I'm extremely 12 00:00:52,640 --> 00:01:00,000 proud of these officers as they go about their day putting themselves in harm's 13 00:00:57,039 --> 00:01:04,720 way and it's very important that they have adequate staffing levels that it's 14 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:10,159 safe staffing levels that they have modern crime fighting equipment advanced 15 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:13,760 training and competitive salaries. So that being said, we do try to balance 16 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:18,479 the needs of the the police department with and align that with the the 17 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:22,720 township's overall budget and competing needs. 18 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:28,320 We feel that uh this budget is financially responsible. We've looked at 19 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:34,159 our spending and I think that by the end of the presentation, you'll see that um 20 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:38,320 we're here to continue our operations uh in a way that works well with the 21 00:01:36,479 --> 00:01:43,759 township. Again, I'm not going to go through each line item. We are just 22 00:01:40,479 --> 00:01:47,759 going to um look at the overall budget and then I can answer any other 23 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:52,159 questions that you might have. So just looking at the first slide, this 24 00:01:49,759 --> 00:01:59,040 is an overview of where we stand for 2026. We're going to talk about an 25 00:01:54,880 --> 00:02:02,640 increased health insurance issue. Um we're going to talk about an investment 26 00:02:00,479 --> 00:02:08,319 in capital project and then we're going to talk how we combat those increases 27 00:02:05,759 --> 00:02:15,239 with reductions in overtime wages and operational costs. The budget comes in 28 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,239 right now at 9,140,938. 29 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:25,280 That's an increase of $140,000, which is about 1.55%. 30 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:32,360 Again, better than the 7.2% from last year or from this year and the 6.9% from 31 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,360 2024. 32 00:02:34,239 --> 00:02:42,480 So, the key spending increases that we have this year. Um the first one is a 33 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:47,599 line item called health and hospitalization. It covers our our 34 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:53,519 health care costs for both active employees and retirees. That has 35 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:59,280 significantly gone up this year. If I look at the line items from admin, 36 00:02:55,920 --> 00:03:04,000 patrol, detectives, and traffic, it goes up about $361,000. 37 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,280 So that is a big increase. It's not something that the police have much 38 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:12,400 control over. for that of course is insurance companies, the bargaining unit 39 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:17,680 and you know from the police side of things that's what we're given. 40 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:21,280 Additionally, we have an operational increase and when I talk about the 41 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:27,040 operations part of the budget what I mean is things like equipment, bullets, 42 00:03:24,239 --> 00:03:31,840 guns, chairs, computers, as well as licenses, software fees, things like 43 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:37,200 that. Those are our operations. We have three key areas where the budget 44 00:03:34,159 --> 00:03:43,280 is going up a little bit operationally. The first one would be um in our camera 45 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:48,879 system. So we have both bodywn cameras and in car cameras. They are vital for 46 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:53,519 our investigations. They're a great thing for officer accountability. We use 47 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:58,080 them as evidence in court and of course they do protect us against some civil 48 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:04,000 liability. So this this equipment is part of modern policing. Our 49 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:09,760 bodywn worn cameras are about 2 and a half years old. Our in-car cameras are 50 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:15,040 about four years old. Bodywn cameras have about a 3 to 5 year shelf life and 51 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:19,120 incar cameras about a seven. So they're about halfway through and we're starting 52 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:23,280 to see some repair costs, licensing fees, but repair costs are going up a 53 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:27,680 little bit with that. So, we're increasing that budget $25,000 to make 54 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:33,919 sure that we can keep this equipment running until it's end of life, which 55 00:04:29,919 --> 00:04:38,720 could be no later than 2028. We are looking into some grants for next 56 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:43,440 year. Hopefully, we can start mitigating some of those costs a while and looking 57 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:48,240 at some other options, but for now, we need to at least plan for repairs for 58 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:52,400 those items as they come up. The other increase that we're going to 59 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:57,520 see is in ballistic vests. This is simply just an operational thing that 60 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:03,919 comes up differently every year. Bulletproof vests, they have a fiveyear 61 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:08,560 shelf life as well. Um, contractually we replace that every five years. So last 62 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:14,560 year we only had five officers that needed vest. This year it's eight. So 63 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:19,039 we'll get a $6,000 increase in that. And then the last operational thing would be 64 00:05:17,039 --> 00:05:24,000 we're asking for more of a capital purchase than we did last year. and 65 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:28,880 we'll talk about that slide in a couple minutes. 66 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:32,560 So, to get into an overview of how we're going to combat some of those increases, 67 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:37,680 we're going to look at two things. We're going to look at salaries and we're 68 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:42,720 going to look at um overtime before we go into what we can do operationally. 69 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:47,680 So, salary, we're looking at an unrealized 70 00:05:44,479 --> 00:05:53,039 wage savings of about $114,000. What I mean by that is if we go by 2025 71 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:57,520 and the amount of officers that we started with to continue our operations 72 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:03,039 in 2025 and you take the collective bargaining 73 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:08,560 units raise of 3.5%. That's about $178,000. 74 00:06:05,919 --> 00:06:12,880 We made some changes this year. Uh we had an officer that left earlier in the 75 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:18,240 year that we decided to do some restructuring and you know different 76 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:22,720 times, different schedules for some units and we didn't replace him. So that 77 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:27,680 saves us salary for next year. We're fine doing things the way we are with 78 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:32,720 that. We have another officer who is going to be retiring in November. I've 79 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:37,840 already worked on replacing him, but the way our pay scale works, it's a sevenst 80 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:43,280 step pay scale. will be able to hire a new officer at a much less expensive 81 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:48,000 rate than that existing one. If we hire somebody who's in the academy, I can get 82 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:53,120 a grant for him probably as well. So, that would even be more savings. 83 00:06:50,800 --> 00:07:02,160 So, those two things equal a decent amount of savings as well as we have a 84 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:07,840 part-time office staff that is has probably going to retire sometime around 85 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:12,160 May. And it's my intention to not replace that position. We've been able 86 00:07:09,919 --> 00:07:17,039 to divide up some work and restructure some things there as well and we'll see 87 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:23,120 some savings in that area. So those three things 88 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:28,080 mean our wages only go up $64,000 instead of $178,000. 89 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:33,440 So when I say unrealized savings, what could have been was one is about 90 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:39,199 $114,000 savings. We're going to look at overtime the same 91 00:07:35,039 --> 00:07:44,319 way. um overtime's one of those words that you know doesn't necessarily mean 92 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:50,319 bad, right? We have operational things that have to be done and some of that is 93 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:55,280 done outside of regular work hours. Just to give you an example of what our 94 00:07:52,880 --> 00:08:00,800 overtime looks like, we put this graph up there. You can see from the top green 95 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:06,160 portion, the majority of our overtime is court related overtime. We want to catch 96 00:08:03,919 --> 00:08:12,080 bad guys or we want to slow people down to stop crashes. That means our officers 97 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:16,319 are going to be busy. They have about a thousand arrests a year and 7,000 98 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:20,639 tickets. They're going to be out there and it's going to incur some court time. 99 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:25,039 So that is the largest portion of the overtime. 100 00:08:23,199 --> 00:08:29,840 What the graph doesn't show is in the revenue portion of things, that's 101 00:08:27,599 --> 00:08:36,240 basically a wash in fines and court costs. So the other large green portion 102 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:41,839 is reimburseable overtime. That is things like we might work a 103 00:08:39,839 --> 00:08:47,040 football game security. The school will pay us back. We might do a DUI 104 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:52,399 checkpoint. We get funding for that. So that overtime is 100% reimburseable. So 105 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:59,640 if you look at that, that's about half of our overtime is is basically 106 00:08:56,399 --> 00:08:59,640 a wash. 107 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:06,560 That just is a little explanation of how we manage over time. And the other 108 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:10,560 categories we look at on a year-by-year basis and try to determine our needs. 109 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:15,760 Some of them we change on a yearly basis. A lot of them are something like 110 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:19,600 an investigation. Something comes up, we have a serious crime, officers have to 111 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:23,120 put more time into it. those kind of things we don't have control over, but 112 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:27,760 they are consistent consistently. We can plan for them. 113 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:31,200 So, going back to how we're going to combat some of that savings, you know, 114 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:37,040 we dealt with the wages, we're talking about overtime. Now, if you look at the 115 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:43,839 the collective bargaining units 3.5% raise, that would put overtime up 116 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:48,000 to about $473,000 for 2025. 117 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:53,760 What I did is I looked at the overtime and we found some ways that we could cut 118 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:59,440 and I took it back down to the 2025 number instead of raising at 473. That's 119 00:09:57,519 --> 00:10:04,959 about $16,000 that we saved in what would have been 120 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:10,640 with the raises. It's cutting basically 195 hours of overtime by restructuring 121 00:10:08,399 --> 00:10:15,279 some things with some different officers that we have and some different ways 122 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:18,320 that we can do things. So, if I add those two together, that's about 123 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:22,640 $130,000 that we tried to keep the budget down 124 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:25,880 that would have gone up just due to the normal payraises. 125 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:38,079 All right. So, the second way that we're going to try to save some money is 126 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:42,000 operationally. Um, this is about $48,000 that we've looked at in the budget and 127 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:47,440 been able to find some ways to save from 25 to 26. Uh, uniforms and equipment. 128 00:10:45,839 --> 00:10:52,000 Uh, we're going to, you know, use some of the things that we have a little bit 129 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:56,320 longer as far as radios and batteries. Um, we have one or two less officers so 130 00:10:54,480 --> 00:11:01,519 that we won't have to spend some of that uniform allowance as well. firearm 131 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:06,000 supplies. That's a category where we've eliminated some expenses by changing 132 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:11,120 around some of the weapons that we use. And um last year we budgeted for a few 133 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:17,279 extra rifles. This year we're not going to do that. We're going to put that off 134 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:23,200 for another another year possibly. We analyzed our fuel and we think that 135 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:27,040 based on what we used year to date, we were a little high. Additionally, 136 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,800 officers have been doing a really good job of keeping the cars from idling too 137 00:11:29,279 --> 00:11:37,120 much when they're not in them. That keeps the fuel cost down, as well as we 138 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:41,279 have two less officers. If we the one that we will hire in November, he's 139 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:45,839 going to be in the FTO period doubled up. So, we'll have some savings there as 140 00:11:42,959 --> 00:11:52,240 well. New hire testing should save about $5,000 because we just completed a test 141 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:56,880 two weeks ago. I don't anticipate anybody leaving next year. 142 00:11:54,959 --> 00:12:01,519 But if they would, we could use this current test to fill that position. And 143 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:07,279 then we found some other things in the EMA, fire police budget that were 144 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:11,760 earmarked that we don't use. And I found about $4,000 in additional control 145 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:17,839 spending that we can cut. Little minor things. So that leaves our savings of 146 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:23,519 $48,000 operationally. If you looked at the key increases, that was 41,000. 147 00:12:20,959 --> 00:12:30,120 Savings are 48,000. So operationally we're actually about $6,700 148 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,120 less than last year. 149 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:39,440 This goes into our capital purchase issue that we're going to talk about. 150 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:46,079 2028 is going to have some looming issues. We have LPR readers that we had 151 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:51,040 been partially funded from the DA's office. Their licenses, they're a great 152 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:56,959 investigative tool. In fact, just last week, we had some theft from vehicles in 153 00:12:53,200 --> 00:13:03,360 the township. We used LPR readers to make to to make an arrest on that almost 154 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:07,279 within a day. So, great police work that the guys did. That's a good tool. But 155 00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:12,000 2028, we're going to have some license fees do. 156 00:13:09,839 --> 00:13:16,720 I talked about the body warn cameras and the incar camera. That is also the 2028 157 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:20,480 issue. But the one that we're going to try to 158 00:13:18,079 --> 00:13:24,959 plan for tonight is going to be our incar computers. Officers do everything 159 00:13:22,959 --> 00:13:28,720 on these computers. Of course, they get dispatched on them. That's how they 160 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:33,200 write their reports, do their crashes, issue their tickets, look up criminal 161 00:13:30,959 --> 00:13:37,600 history. Everything's done on these computers. It's mandated by the county 162 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:44,160 that we replace them every, I believe, five years. 2028 they're due with a 163 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:51,440 price tag of about $105,000. Last year, I'm sorry, for 2025, we put 164 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:56,639 away $50,000 capital purchase to begin tackling this problem. I'm going to ask 165 00:13:53,920 --> 00:14:00,800 for that 50 plus another 10, so that we can at least say 166 00:13:58,959 --> 00:14:05,440 the most important thing, the computers are taken care of for 2028. That leaves 167 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:12,639 us time to look at these grants if they come in for 2026 and plan for some of 168 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:18,240 those additional looming issues in 27 and 28. So, we're asking for a total of 169 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:22,440 60,000 in capital purchases, which is 10,000 more than last year. 170 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:33,440 All right. So, this takes us to our review. Again, over time, we we took 171 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:38,240 that back down to to 2025's hours. I'm sorry, amount. So, that's saving 172 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:42,480 $16,000. Operationally, we decreased the 173 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:50,000 operations budget 6,700. Wages in light of the 3.5% 174 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:55,440 raises only actually went up 64,000. So overall, we kept the budget at $140,000 175 00:14:53,600 --> 00:15:01,279 more than 2025. It's about a 1.55% 176 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:05,120 increase. And that's pretty much the budget we 177 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:08,639 have. I believe that we're going to be able to continue our operations, 178 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:12,560 continue giving the public the service that they deserve and give the officers 179 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:17,360 the tools that they need with this budget. And I just thank you for 180 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:19,760 considering it. >> Questions? 181 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:23,839 » Thank you, Lieutenant. >> Thank you. 182 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:28,399 » I had questions, but as uh you went through your presentations, they got 183 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:33,360 answered. So, very well put together. I appreciate it. I believe Jack was 184 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:38,000 tracking down a few questions. Yeah, of course, 185 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:42,320 Lieutenant Shaver. Yeah. Um, only because I' I've heard from the 186 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:49,440 community. It's not really It may not be budget related depending on how it gets 187 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:55,519 handled. Um, school resource officer. Okay. I hear, you know, I hear comments 188 00:15:51,759 --> 00:16:00,560 back uh from the school, etc. I know you guys do patrols, but could you cover 189 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:06,800 that? Is that including the budget? Is there any plans for increased presence 190 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:10,480 in the school system? >> Well, as far as a school resource 191 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:14,079 officer, that's something that has to be worked out between the school board's 192 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:17,839 budget and the police's budget. And I believe that our budgets are at 193 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,759 different times of the year. So, that would be something that we would have to 194 00:16:19,199 --> 00:16:23,120 get in line. >> Yeah. They're on a different cycle, 195 00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:26,880 » correct? with with their budget because there are ways that that police 196 00:16:24,639 --> 00:16:32,160 departments and school districts split that cost since the officer spends most 197 00:16:28,959 --> 00:16:36,880 their time in the school. But we would always be open to listening to that 198 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:41,759 conversation. We do spend a lot of of time patrolling the schools, keeping 199 00:16:39,199 --> 00:16:47,040 them safe, working with the schools. We have monthly meetings that we engage 200 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:52,399 with them to share information. They have their own school. 201 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:57,680 I don't want to butcher his title, but they have their own school mandated 202 00:16:54,880 --> 00:17:03,920 security personnel that has to work with their safety plans and coordinate with 203 00:16:59,839 --> 00:17:10,160 us um different safety drills that we conduct with them on a monthly basis 204 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:14,079 sometimes, but multiple times a year. So, we're always engaging with that with 205 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:20,319 that with them. This past summer, we heavily engaged 206 00:17:17,679 --> 00:17:27,039 with them with some training exercises where I brought in fire and EMS and we 207 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:32,799 did some very long extensive training for active shooter stuff. Um, so we we 208 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:37,440 did partner with them to do that. Our our officers do go into school. We try 209 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:44,960 to be there in the morning for drop offs a lot. We we help with traffic every day 210 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:48,720 when school lets out. But as far as a specific school resource officer, that 211 00:17:47,039 --> 00:17:52,240 would have to be something that's worked out with the school district in line 212 00:17:50,799 --> 00:17:57,360 with their budget as well. >> That would probably not a quite a good 213 00:17:54,960 --> 00:18:02,960 question because I understand I understand that that the school board 214 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:10,160 would have to uh allocate funds for that. It was more of the your the extra 215 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:16,960 police presence in the school and you've answered that. I appreciate you. Um the 216 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:23,840 I'm still a little puzzled on the 470,000. 217 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:29,720 Okay. Uh that you listed. Was that what you believe? Uh where was it? 218 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:36,480 » It's >> It was the next slide, I believe. Yep. 219 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:41,679 » Yeah. Overtime um uh over overtime by year 2025. Is that what you're 220 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:45,120 projecting for 2025 or is that what was in the budget? 221 00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:47,840 » That is what we budgeted for 2025. >> Uh then you know what my next question 222 00:18:46,799 --> 00:18:53,000 is. >> Why is it where you 223 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:53,000 » Oh, where am I at? 224 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,880 » I can get that. >> And if you don't have it handy, it's 225 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:01,280 fine. >> I do have So that graph that we made 226 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:05,520 » Yeah. >> is I have the numbers for that, but I 227 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:09,360 put in percentages so I don't get you the exact number. Is it above or below? 228 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,400 » It would be Oh, it's below that. We're below that. 229 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,720 » Okay. >> Yeah. And and those numbers are figured 230 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:19,760 in with overtime that hasn't occurred yet between what we anticipate 231 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:23,520 reimburseable with the school yet and a few of the there's some last minute 232 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:28,559 lowlight shooting that the officers have to do. So, we'll be below what we 233 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:32,640 anticipated most. >> Okay. And then for 2026, you use the 234 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:37,120 same number. >> I did use the same number. So, when we 235 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:44,320 started working on the budget, um, finance gave me a number of $473,000 236 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:52,640 based on simply taking the raises that we would expect and applying the same 237 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:56,799 percentages of overtime usage to 2026. That's when I looked at it and I said, 238 00:19:54,640 --> 00:20:02,640 let's take it down and just keep it the same dollar amount as 2025 to show no 239 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:06,960 increase. And that's why I'm saying we saved about 16,000. 240 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:14,640 » Okay. Um uh your admin person uh you're going to 241 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:17,600 lose her part-time in next May if I remember correctly. 242 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:22,000 » Okay, that's what she's >> and is it 243 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:26,320 I maybe I shouldn't be asking this because I'm not sure I want to know the 244 00:20:23,679 --> 00:20:29,919 answer. But what are the plans then? What are your plans? 245 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:36,159 » So that position has changed over the years. Um, I've been here 28 years. 246 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:41,760 We've had different different part-time admin personnel. Um, one full-time, one 247 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:46,799 part-time, two full part or two full-time and a part-time. It's changed 248 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:53,679 over the years. And part of the reason for that changing is technology, um, how 249 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:58,720 we do things. So, they don't file paper citations anymore. They don't do a lot 250 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:05,280 of paper related things anymore. And as we change, we can we we lose work for 251 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:11,919 that person to do. Additionally, some of the work that that person does right 252 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:16,720 now, we delegated because we were busy and it's really stuff that we think a 253 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:21,280 police officer should be doing anyway. So that's something that we would take 254 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:26,080 back. And then dispatching as well. That's not like a technological change. 255 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:30,400 We no longer try to dispatch anything from our office. people sometimes 256 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:34,559 instead of calling 911, we call the officers directly. We try to take that 257 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:39,520 away because it's safer when it's done through Burk's radio. So even answering 258 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:42,080 the phones is less. That's why I think that we'll be able to 259 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,840 do without that position. >> Okay. So it'll just be completely 260 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:50,960 eliminated >> most likely. Yes. That's what we 261 00:21:47,679 --> 00:21:55,520 budgeted for. Um that budget's based on running those numbers of when we 262 00:21:52,559 --> 00:22:02,960 anticipate her to her to work this year. >> Okay. Um, last question I have is I 263 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:06,799 don't see any capital improvements. You have no capital really listed other 264 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:11,520 than what you just mentioned there. There's there we're not you're not 265 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:17,760 asking for capital to start putting it away for that 2028 as an example for the 266 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:23,039 mobile uh units. >> Not other than the $60,000 for the MCT, 267 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:28,159 right? That is that is the capital purchase that we're asking for for 2028 268 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:32,320 just for the the computers. >> Yeah. And but is that that's not a fixed 269 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:36,400 cost at this point? >> That three years 270 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:42,159 » it's most like for the computers itself that most likely will cover it based on 271 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:47,840 the 50,000 that we put away in 2025. So we we if we get if you approve the 272 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:52,320 $60,000 in that category, we should have enough for the MCTs. 273 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:56,720 » Okay. All right. Good. Okay. But I when I didn't when I don't see capital, I I 274 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,720 start thinking, uh oh, >> sure. 275 00:22:57,120 --> 00:23:05,919 » All of a sudden, we're going to get hit with a a possible capital request that 276 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:11,840 was not was not planned or maybe you knew about and didn't let us know. 277 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:15,280 » We'll be back knocking next year for the other thing. 278 00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:18,799 » Okay, good. Thank you, Lieutenant. That's it for me, 279 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:24,759 » Supervisor. No, I understand. 280 00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:24,759 [Music] 281 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:30,799 » Supervisor H. >> I don't think at this time. 282 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:35,039 » Just a couple of things for me. Um, you've mentioned the operational 283 00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:41,679 increase on the body cameras and the bulletproof vests. There are grants that 284 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:49,039 are being pursued. Um, do you know when uh you could hear about 285 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:54,400 it? So, the bulletproof vest grant is usually a sure thing. Um, that's 286 00:23:51,840 --> 00:24:01,280 something that we go through every year, but it does have to happen after we 287 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:04,880 go through a process. As far as the grant for the cameras, I believe that 288 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:08,000 the earliest we could hear from that is March. 289 00:24:05,919 --> 00:24:10,240 » So, they're in theory, they could be at zero as far as 290 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:14,080 » it could be. >> Uh, the other thing, it's an ask. Uh, 291 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:19,200 it's not a comment or anything. I would like to look at you over time by year, 292 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:23,679 work with Bill and see how we could improve. 293 00:24:21,919 --> 00:24:28,880 Other than that, if there's nobody else having any other questions, 294 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:33,559 » I appreciate you and I appreciate your presentation. Well done. 295 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,559 » Thank you. 296 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:43,080 » All right, we're switching it. 297 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,519 [Music] 298 00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:00,840 I have it up on the screen. Check. 299 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:15,600 » Good to go. >> Good to go, sir. 300 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:19,440 » Okay. Uh Chris Jordan, fire chief, Exit Township Volunteer Fire Department. Uh 301 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:24,720 first of all, thank you for allowing us to present the 2026 budget this evening. 302 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:29,279 Um thank you to the board of supervisors, also the residents for your 303 00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:33,600 support over the last year and in previous years. 304 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:37,679 We're very proud of what we accomplished in this past year and we're still 305 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:41,520 accomplishing more. Um, and I'm personally very proud of all of our crew 306 00:25:39,919 --> 00:25:47,760 and all the accomplishments that they've had over the last year. 307 00:25:44,159 --> 00:25:54,400 Um, just to name a few, in 2025 we placed Tower Ladder 25 in service. Um, 308 00:25:51,440 --> 00:26:01,200 so you'll see that on the street and great asset to the community. Uh, we 309 00:25:57,039 --> 00:26:05,919 also had six new members achieve their essentials of firefighting training this 310 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:09,840 year. Uh that's a 200 hour training class and they'll all be testing for 311 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:14,799 their firefighter one certification in the beginning part of November. So you 312 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:18,880 know most fire departments or fire companies in in the county might have 313 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:23,120 one or two. So we're very proud that we have you know six that went through the 314 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:28,240 class and and actually started and finished the entire class. Quite an 315 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:32,880 accomplishment for those members. Um, I'm also proud to say that we over the 316 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:37,919 past year, we've expanded our junior firefighter program, which is members 317 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:42,799 ages 14 to 17 years of age. We made a push on that to tell replenishing uh 318 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:46,000 that program. We've gone from six members at this time last year to now we 319 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:50,559 have 12. >> So, that's a great accomplishment to um, 320 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:55,360 you know, the school district's been helping us, but also to our crew for 321 00:26:52,720 --> 00:27:00,640 helping with those recruitment efforts. >> So, thank you again. 322 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:05,200 Uh before we get into the numbers, I just wanted to uh reiterate the 323 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:11,679 priorities of the department. Um the first priority is to continue to provide 324 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:16,159 247 365 days a year in-house staffing. Uh one of the things that our fire 325 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:22,640 department does is we have in-house staffing uh 247 365. 326 00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:30,480 You know, that's done through our career staff, but also our volunteers that we 327 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:35,600 incentivize to staff our fire station. The second priority is the centrallylo 328 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:40,159 emergency services center, which we've talked at length about. 329 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,679 Third priority is to continue to solidify our apparatus replacement plan, 330 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,760 which we'll talk about a little bit later. 331 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:52,559 Fourth priority is to continue to enhance community relations with local 332 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:56,640 businesses and community organizations. Over the years, we've had great 333 00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:01,520 relationships with the local businesses um and also many community organizations 334 00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:06,880 that we continue to support and they support us um through various events 335 00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:10,159 during the year. And then last but not least, we want to 336 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:14,799 continue to enhance our recruitment and training efforts. Um, one of the one of 337 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:19,360 the things that I wanted to do when I took over as fire chief is to continue 338 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:25,039 to make sure that our members that we have in place are being productive uh 339 00:28:21,919 --> 00:28:31,760 and retain them, but also to make sure that we're recruiting new recruits and 340 00:28:27,679 --> 00:28:36,320 also training them properly. Um, you know, the next essentials class will 341 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:40,320 start sometime in January or February, and I'm hoping to get another six 342 00:28:38,399 --> 00:28:43,840 enrolled in that class so that at this time next year, I can tell you we have 343 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:47,480 another six firefighters on the street. So, that's the goal. 344 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:59,679 Some historical call volume. Sorry, on the wrong page. 345 00:28:56,559 --> 00:29:04,799 Um, so a lot of the community may not know who we are. Um, you know, we're 346 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:09,120 Exit Township Volunteer Fire Department, but we're a combination fire department. 347 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:14,799 Um, currently we're staffed by volunteers. We do have full-time staff 348 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:18,799 and we do have part-time personnel. So, right now we have 75 active 349 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:23,120 volunteers. That would include the junior members and also the fire police 350 00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:28,159 members. We have two full-time firefighters that cover our daytime 351 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:32,720 operations. And then we have 20 part-time 352 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:38,159 firefighters that fill five positions during the daytime hours. You know, in 353 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:42,799 the past, you know, the firefighters would work at the local hardware st 354 00:29:39,919 --> 00:29:49,440 store, leave to go fight a fire or protect the community. Those days are 355 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:53,360 long gone. So, what we're doing is maintaining a combination department 356 00:29:51,679 --> 00:29:58,159 where it's a combination of volunteers and career staff, you know, to help 357 00:29:55,279 --> 00:30:02,559 protect the community. And we provide all disciplines of the 358 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:08,320 fire service. Fire suppression, you know, truck and aerial work, rescue, we 359 00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:13,600 fight brush fires. We have tankers for the rural end of the township. We also 360 00:30:10,399 --> 00:30:18,159 have fire police. We have QRS and EMS which help support the lifeline EMS 361 00:30:15,919 --> 00:30:21,679 program. And then we also have water rescue. 362 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:29,180 And once again, the goal is to continue to maintain that 247 365 program. 363 00:30:25,980 --> 00:30:29,180 [Music] 364 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:39,919 From a call volume perspective, um, in 2023 we responded to 1468 emergency 365 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:44,480 responses. About 80 of those were from the flooding uh, in July, which we've 366 00:30:42,399 --> 00:30:50,320 talked about. Last year, we were at 1401, and this year we're at 1,200 at 367 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:56,960 the end of September. So, that would put us right around uh, 1,550 calls for the 368 00:30:54,799 --> 00:31:04,559 year. you know, which obviously is about a 10% increase from last year. 369 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:09,600 Some statist some stats from last year, 20% of our calls were overlapped, 370 00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:13,679 meaning that um when you're out on a call, we may get another call during 371 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:20,440 that time, which again, we try to maintain at least two crews in place 372 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,440 that they can respond to that. 373 00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:28,559 77% of those calls were fire and rescue calls and then 23% were QRS and EMS 374 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:32,399 calls. 78% of our responses were to exit 375 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:37,679 township in St. Lawrence Burough, which would be our first two area. And our 376 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:42,360 dispatch to our average dispatch uh to response time is 1 minute and 5 seconds. 377 00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:57,919 Okay, on to the budget. Um, the current fire tax is at I'm going to say 1.07 378 00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:04,000 mills. That's where the current fire tax is. At this point in time, we're not 379 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:10,080 requesting a tax increase for the 2026 operational budget. 380 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:13,200 So, the operational budget encompasses pretty much everything we need to 381 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:18,799 operate. Vehicle and personal insuranceances, 382 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:24,559 fuel for e vehicles, workman's comp, things of that nature. 383 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:31,440 The fire tax generates approximately $1.4 million in the course of a year. 384 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:37,360 And on the expense line, uh if you go down to the bottom, you can see that uh 385 00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:42,720 the line items are pretty close to where they were last year. A few callouts. Um 386 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:46,559 as Lieutenant Schaefer mentioned, you know, we're seeing increases in 387 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:49,919 insurance costs as well. So, workman's comp, we're projecting to be around 388 00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:55,519 $75,000 for next year. 389 00:32:52,000 --> 00:33:00,880 Um, under line uh for fire or contributions in fire, that line item is 390 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:04,720 for our career staff and our part- timerrs. That also includes the health 391 00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:11,600 insurance of those me of the two full-timers. Uh, right now, we're 392 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:18,159 anticipating from 2025 to 2026, that should be about a 20% increase over last 393 00:33:14,399 --> 00:33:24,720 year. A few factors play into that. Um, number one, the overall health insurance 394 00:33:19,919 --> 00:33:28,640 has gone up, but number two, um, one of our full-timers resigned and we 395 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:32,159 got a new full-timer and his health insurance was a little bit higher than 396 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:36,399 the old one we had. So, that's part of the increase. 397 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:41,840 Um, another note, if you go to the bottom, um, you know, Supervisor Pio 398 00:33:39,679 --> 00:33:45,360 mentioned about capital purchases. So that last line item, transfer to 399 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:51,120 apparatus, that's our capital or capital program 400 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:57,519 for apparatus replacement. So we took that from $235,000 401 00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:02,880 a year. We increased that to $250,000 a year. We're in the process currently of 402 00:34:00,399 --> 00:34:07,440 looking at, you know, replacing one of our apparatus based on our apparatus 403 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:13,119 replacement program. And that apparatus is projected to come in somewhere 404 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:18,320 between 1.3 and 1.5 million. If you haven't followed with the federal 405 00:34:14,879 --> 00:34:23,040 government, um the cost of fire apparatus has skyrocketed over the last 406 00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:29,119 few years to the point where I believe it's Senator Holly is very vocal with 407 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:34,000 the federal government to try to stop the increases of the fire apparatus and 408 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:39,679 try to actually bring them down and get the fire apparatus manufacturers more in 409 00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:43,280 line with where they should be. the the apparatus that we're looking at 410 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:46,879 replacing, you know, at at the current rate, it 411 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:51,760 would take us about six years to acrew the funds to replace that apparatus 412 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:59,839 without taking a loan or coming to the board um with with a big with a big ask. 413 00:34:57,359 --> 00:35:04,599 So hopefully the price of apparatus will start to 414 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:10,640 relax and come down a little bit, but we're not sure. So, we are looking at 415 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:14,640 alternatives. You know, there's there's something called a refurbishment where 416 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:19,040 you could look at refurbishing a current apparatus and bringing it more up to 417 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:23,920 speed. Um, you know, you could also go a used apparatus route, which are things 418 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:28,720 we're all looking at. But, you know, in the past, um, the apparatus that's being 419 00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:33,200 replaced has been used as a reserve piece in case one of our apparatus goes 420 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:38,000 down for mechanical issues or some other major issues. 421 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:42,320 Any questions before we go on from that 422 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:50,000 slide? >> So you're just your delta is 4,500 423 00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:54,480 bucks. >> Is that the difference that you're 424 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:58,320 seeking pretty much is this here or just going to cover it in house? 425 00:35:55,839 --> 00:36:02,480 » So that's actually we're actually not we're not asking for 426 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:06,800 any more. So the the delta where it shows 4500 I 427 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:12,320 believe that's what they're planning that we would earn in the revenue line 428 00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:14,320 this year versus last year. It's from interest and 429 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,640 » yeah fair enough >> other things 430 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:27,200 » but yes if in the operational side I think it's I think it's 1,433,000 431 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:33,400 versus 1,432 that would be covered with 432 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:33,400 uh internal 433 00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:40,720 » um some again some budget notes so everything in here in the budget is uh 434 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:47,440 all of our anticipated expenses related to vehicle and insurance, fuel, 435 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:53,119 911 uh communications payment, which you know, currently um 436 00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:56,320 and manager, you might have to correct me if 437 00:36:54,640 --> 00:37:02,079 I'm wrong, but I I believe we're also paying for the EMS 438 00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:05,280 communications fee out of this. >> I don't know that. 439 00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:08,960 » Something we may want to look into, but I believe it's EMS and fire. The 440 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:13,440 communications fees are coming out of that. I believe so. we might want to 441 00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:17,040 look at we'll look at that together. >> Um 442 00:37:15,359 --> 00:37:20,400 workman's compensation insurance which we talked about apparatus maintenance 443 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:24,960 and also the payroll and benefits for the full-time personnel and then the 444 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:30,240 payroll for the part-time personnel the volunteer incentive program and also the 445 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:34,880 apparatus replacement program. And just to reiterate for the for the 446 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:43,560 app for the uh operational side of the fire department, we are not asking for a 447 00:37:37,359 --> 00:37:43,560 tax increase this fiscal year of 2026. 448 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:50,720 » 10 out of 10. Thank you. >> Any questions? 449 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:57,520 » Um just wondering why did you drop uh the fire vehicle maintenance 450 00:37:53,760 --> 00:38:01,760 25,000 from your operation? So last year we knew we were going to have some 451 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:06,000 pretty significant maintenance costs. Um you know one of our apparatus I believe 452 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:10,320 had to have some engine work done. This year we're not anticipating that blue. 453 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:19,200 Hopefully none of that happens. So hopefully the maintenance can come down. 454 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:23,760 Um and it's it's reallocated into the uh what would be the contributions fire 455 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,960 which is a salary and benefits and things like that to cover those 456 00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:32,720 increases. Fair enough. Appreciate it. Thank you. 457 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:39,040 » Anybody has a question for >> Yeah, I'm not sure. Um, St. Lawrence, 458 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:42,560 what what are they paying you fire? What do they pay us? 459 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:52,079 » Yeah, so right now St. Lawrence's fire tax is at I believe it's at 67 mills. 460 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:56,720 Um, and that money is split between exit and also Mount Penny. 461 00:38:54,560 --> 00:39:01,680 So that generates I believe it generates approximately $12,000 per year per fire 462 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,760 department. >> That's it. Do we anticipating an 463 00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:08,480 increase? I mean that's >> Yeah. So I've worked with the chief at M 464 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,040 » basically free >> and we put together 465 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:22,400 well we could talk about St. offline. But so they we put together a plan where 466 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:31,079 um there's increases every year in the fire tax. Um and it's it's basically 467 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,079 contracted services with them. 468 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:42,040 But good question. They do contribute but it's I mean dollar-wise it's it's 469 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,040 small making. 470 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:49,280 Um, any other questions for the chief here from the rest of the board? 471 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,800 » Thank you. >> He already answered about capital 472 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:57,400 equipment. Thank you, chief. >> Thank you, chief. I appreciate it. 473 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,400 » Thanks. 474 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:03,920 » All right. Uh, I don't know if anybody signed up for public comments. I don't 475 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:09,920 see anything written on the sheets. So, we're going to move on to adjourment. 476 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:12,560 Do I have a motion to adjour the budget workshop? 477 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:18,040 I make that motion. >> Do I have a second? 478 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,040 » I'll second