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We will now begin the meeting; please

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stand for the oath.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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Very good. Thank you all. I think the

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first item on the agenda is to

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say, let's go Red Sox! Very good.

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I object.

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Uh, any amendments to the agenda?

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I have an amendment on your packages.

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I included a letter titled with "coin"

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from August. I tried to get some

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other quotes, but I ended up

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with only this one. And this is for the

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MERP grant for the police department porch

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. So I hope you will

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review it and approve it.

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Uh, okay. I will make a motion to

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add the approval of expenses for

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the ramp and rest area as item E in

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new business. Do I have a second

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motion? I second that. Is everyone in favor

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Yes. It's been added. Very good.

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Approval of the minutes of September 15 and 16

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. I will make a motion to

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approve the minutes from our

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previous meetings on September 15th and 16th,

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I second the meeting. Can we

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separate those motions?

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first make a motion to approve our

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minutes from the meeting of

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September 15, 2026.

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everyone in favor?

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I will abstain.

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I was not present. And I will make another

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motion to approve our minutes

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of September 16, 2026. Do

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everyone in favor?

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abstain from that one too. I

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wasn't present at that one. Yes, I was there on

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the 15th. For the record. I was going

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to say that they're also

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welcome to...

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I thought it was funny because it

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reminds me of you.

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I was there on the 15th.

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Very good. Reports from

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department heads.

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Clear. So, Bill, do you want to

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Clear. I'll start with the

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police department. The

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police department had...In the last two

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weeks we had four arrests. One

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for one person, one for

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aggravated assault with recommendation of

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violent release, and one for simple assault

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. We wrote 54 traffic tickets, 15

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written warnings, and one

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parking violation. We had two

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car accidents. We took

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civilians. I gave them a summary of what

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we did in the last two weeks and

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we had 122 service calls. We

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have 4539 so far this year.

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Very good. In addition, our

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water and wastewater department, whose heads

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are here tonight, has been

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conducting routine tests and everything

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is within expected ranges.

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preparing for hydrant cleaning

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in October. Regarding wastewater.

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Carrie is here to help us with

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the Oil and Tanner report. Also,

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Rutland has stopped receiving sludge, did they

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our sludge to Schenectady. That

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will increase transportation costs.

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Just so you know what's going to happen

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with Schenectady. I am very grateful

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to Carrie for that and for finding a

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viable solution to this problem. In

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Public Works, we are announcing the

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vacancy for the position of CDL. We

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currently have four applicants. Nate and

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I will review them this week. The

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rest of the staff are finishing the

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trenches on Bigalow Road. The work on

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the road shoulders was completed today on Sheldon

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Road, Cemetery Street and Swamp Road. Uh,

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no, that one wasn't there.

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road leveling, garbage collection, and

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tree work around

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municipal buildings. We're trying

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to take care of some things in the

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back. We took care of

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some trees on the sides and others at

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the back, doing a general cleaning,

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but there are still some trees at the back of the

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building that serve as an entrance for

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squirrels. So we're trying to

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fix that a little bit. I hope everyone

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has noticed that the park fountain is

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working again. That was very good

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. It looks great. All the mulch has already been placed

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around it. So, yes, I'm

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glad it's finally ready. We are

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under pressure to sign the

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MER grant contract. As you know,

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we had in mind the deadline of

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December 31st; That's what they

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told us until last Thursday or Friday

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. We were informed that yes,

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we have until then to spend the

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money, but the contracts must be

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signed by September 30th. That's why

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I was trying to get more

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bids for the porch, but I haven't

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received any. So we're going to move

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forward with that so we can

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weren't really considering it.

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. So let's finish it. The

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recreation director and I are

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finalizing a

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recreation grant that expires, I believe, tomorrow.

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that. Basically, it's for

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finished product work. These are things from the

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later stages. So we've

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thoroughly analyzed the park behind the

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elementary school and the small details that

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cost money and need to be done to

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finish the project and make everything look great

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there. We have several things that we

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are trying to complete with that.

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grant for improved roads that

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was released this week. The deadline

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for that is

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September 2028. So Nate and I

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are looking into what we can do

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. There are three different sources of

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funding and options. So we're

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looking at what we might

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need in the city that would fit within

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those funds and help our budget a little

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. Brilliant.

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Anything to add, department heads

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Clear.

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Yes, absolutely. Regarding our

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waste disposal, UVM was

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here last week and started their

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final project; The full synopsis

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should be ready by December, and

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then they will hold a presentation which

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I will attend to bring you the information

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. The engineer is working with

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them. So, regardless of

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how they prepare the proposal, the

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engineer will approve it. Therefore, it

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could receive funding. It will

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basically be a ready-to-

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start project, which is huge for

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us. I mean, they can see how much

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the engineering costs are and the fact that it's

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done pro bono is great.

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That's excellent.

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Anything to add, Mike?

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Rutland Regional Planning Commission,

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safety committee training. [

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We had an inspection at the plant,

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just so you know. We've never

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done it before, but we're going to

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start closing the door there, so

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no one will have access to the property

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itself. I have spoken with a company.

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We are going to install a path.

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ATVs, bicycles, and

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motorcycles will not be allowed to pass, but kayakers,

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fishermen, and others will still have access

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without having to go around the entire fence.

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Where is this microphone?

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At the water plant itself. There's always been

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a big gate up there.

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Except it's never been closed or used, you

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know. It has always been

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public land. Let them walk, hike,

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or do whatever they want. But with the way

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things are going in security and cybersecurity,

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we're going to start closing that door.

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make an effort to get into the building.

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Yes, in fact there have been people camping

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in their parking lot up there.

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Um, maybe you already said that, Terry, so I

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apologize. What

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explains why the Rutland plant

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cannot receive our sludge?

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Carrie has more details about that,

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maximum capacity.

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also short-staffed and

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normally process their sludge on the

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second shift, so I don't know if they

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are operating a full second shift

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. It has been very, it has been uncertain

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sending one load per week to

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Skenctity and that's with the

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tanker truck. The problem we're

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going to run into is that they can't use the

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tanker truck in winter. So

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if it gets cold, we're in serious

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trouble because then they can only

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use the 4,000-gallon tank.

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and right now I'm only sending 6,500 gallons

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per week, and we're actually

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putting 16,000 gallons per week into that tank

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You say mud. So, is it just

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waste?

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That's the waste. That's the

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final product we have.

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So, instead of transporting it,

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can you have Doris come and

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pump it for us?

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Doris comes and pumps it.

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And we have to do something about it. There are

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very, very few places that process mud

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. So that's not septic material.

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and sludge are confused. That's why I

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was confused.

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There is a very big difference between

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septic material and sludge. I have called

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all the municipalities in our area.

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within 5 years, but that's

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5 years from now. Um, I spoke with Granville.

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does not accept mud. They only accept, or

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used to accept, septic material. Um,

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mud is our final product. It's

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very thick. Um, and it needs to be

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processed further and dried

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before going to the landfill. And that's why

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we're analyzing our

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sludge study, to see if there's anything we can

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add that reduces it to a

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solids level that can go

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directly to the landfill. The problem

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with that is that all the landfills in

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Vermont are also closing. Mjm.

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Uh, which means that, eventually

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, right now everything is going north.

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Uh, that one will probably close and everything

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will have to go to Ohio. Do you

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mean Coventry? Ohio.

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Coventry is also on the list.

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Mjm.

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So, they have a lot of work

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ahead of them, huh?

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Yes. So, basically, the

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real solution is to switch to

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Class A biosolids. Uh, and yes,

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I did my research, I went to a demonstration

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of a Class A dryer in Middlebury,

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but they cost about 3 million

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dollars. So, it's probably not

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in our budget right now

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.

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What is the...Yes. What is the

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revenue opportunity with

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a Class A service like that?

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Well, class A is currently being

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used for, uh, VTrans. They use it as an

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amendment when they're working in

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grassy areas and things like that. The

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problem with that is that if they approve the

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PFAS regulations,

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everything will probably change again and there will be even

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more regulations. So right now we

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just need to get to class A,

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which is basically heat and solids, you

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know, raising it to a certain temperature

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to kill all the pathogens.

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But if they include PFAS, that's going to be

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another obstacle. Okay, the

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PFAS are coming. So,

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in the last training I

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attended from the state, it seems to be

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in 2029. And the MCL, which is the

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upper limit, will be cut in

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half and more chemicals will be added to

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the list. So it's going to be a

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major concern for the country,

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not just for our

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wastewater treatment plant.

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Mjm. And, in fact, our plant was

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part of that PFAS study; I

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volunteered and we came out with

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very low levels. So, for now,

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we're good. Uh, and that's due to the

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fact that we don't have much of an industry

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.

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And the same is true for our

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water supply. There is

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absolutely nothing there that is on

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the list. Regarding

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Chad's earlier question about

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revenue potential, without getting bogged down in this

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discussion, but uh, instead of selling

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the final product if we had a

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dryer, is there also

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revenue potential from receiving sludge from other

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municipalities that are...

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We will never accept sludge. We could

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possibly receive sewage in

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the future.

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OK.

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We will never reach the point where we won't, and

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probably never will, have the

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capacity to handle other plants.

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even if we had that dry. I do

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n't believe it. Uh, we're talking about

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storage and many other things. Uh

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, but I'm possibly considering

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maybe doing some septic tank work.

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So, that's also something that

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Hoyle and Tanner are going to review with me.

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So, we realize that

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expenses are always going to go up and

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we need to find a way to

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generate income from that. That's why we

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're analyzing it. Alright

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. Report from the

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municipal manager. Put it all together. He put it

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all together. Yes.

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Uh, any unfinished business? It seems there are

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no outstanding issues.

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New topics. Okay, let's continue with our

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current topic and have our

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discussion on the repair

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and rehabilitation plan for the

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sewer collection system.

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OK. So guys, uh, a

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couple of weeks ago I delivered this

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preliminary sewer system to you. Uh, actually I

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added things to it because

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Hoyle and Tanner gave me the

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final report after that. So, I added a few

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things. And I also gave a couple of

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you a copy of

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Hoyle and Tanner's actual report. It's not in color. I have

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one with color images. Uh,

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obviously it was too expensive to try to

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print everything in color here. Uh,

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we only made one copy. So, if anyone

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wants to see our photos, they look much

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better on the copy I have. So,

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I guess I'll leave it up to you

394
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. Do you have any questions about it?

395
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Like, how do they want us to...?

396
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Can you explain the changes to us?

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So, the changes were, uh, let's see.

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So on the page where

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level three was, I thought maybe a lot of

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this we could do internally in

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terms of smoke testing and, uh,

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connections, locating the

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rainwater connections. Hoyle and Tanner

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actually gave us a price of

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$85,000 to do that. And I'm

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thinking that maybe we can come to

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a compromise and perhaps some of it will

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go to Hoyle and Tanner and some of it

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to us. Uh, for phase two of

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manhole inspection, Hoyle and

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Tanner gave us a price of 75,000

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because there are 119 manholes left that have not been

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inspected. Basically, when

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they did the inspection, we took all

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the places we know that normally

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have problems, and that's where they

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focused first. Uh, those are

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basically most of the changes I

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think I made, which was to add their

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actual costs, estimated costs for

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them. Do

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you need to take any action from us

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tonight? I suppose there's a

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discussion about whether they want to proceed

425
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with Foil and Tanner being part of

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it, or if they want to try to have us

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handle it internally. Um,

428
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what are your thoughts on

429
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this?

430
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What's realistic to do internally?

431
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Um. I mean

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, apart from the two of them.

433
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That's really difficult for us

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to do a detailed report like the one

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they did.

436
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For a start. We really don't have

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as much knowledge as they do about the

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actual structures and, you know, how

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everything should be put together. M.

440
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Um, and I really don't have the resources,

441
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you have to send at least a minimum

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of two people and if I send two

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people, then I have no way of

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planning.

445
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Yes.

446
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Um, so what internal work,

447
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if any, have they done that would

448
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be there? Because we just received

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this report. Um, basically the

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only thing that's happened now is, uh,

451
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Nate and I had an argument about

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the sewers that wouldn't open

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. And of those 12 manholes that

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could not be opened, only two of them will be

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able to be opened in a feasible way.

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Some of them have been paved

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recently. And two of them aren't

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even structures for, um,

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for the sewer anyway.

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So, we don't really care about

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those. So let's start with that.

462
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Um, I wanted to say, some of the things

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they recommend doing are part of

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deep cleaning. So hopefully

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when Mike does his, um, hydro-wash,

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we wanted to take advantage of that again and

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wash our system so we can move

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some things around. And then I'm going to

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take three blocks and do a

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real vacuuming and cleaning this year.

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Instead of covering all the streets with

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a little water, I'm going to take three and

473
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have them suctioned out and cleaned.

474
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Correct. I have a question. Clear.

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You said that two of them are

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covered with recent paving.

477
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Yes. Recently paved.

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Who paved them? Was it the

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municipality or the state?

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It was the state. But the problem was that they had

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n't been identified before.

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So they've been buried for

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so long that people don't even

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know where they are. They

485
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were under the pavement then.

486
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They were under the pavement and have now

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been repaved.

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OK. Because I was wondering who

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authorized paving over them.

490
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That's all. These are just things that have been

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overlooked

492
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year after year.

493
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Why aren't we locating and

494
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opening them?

495
00:19:42,468 --> 00:19:43,741
Well, we're trying to locate them

496
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. That's part of what this is about.

497
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If you saw the original map we

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worked with, it wasn't even accurate.

499
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So if we manage to find those

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manholes now, is the state

501
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responsible for coming and lifting them?

502
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I suppose that's true for us, because they

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paved it. We don't pay them. I

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highly doubt it because I believe it was up

505
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to us to mark them.

506
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This work should have been done long before

507
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the paving began,

508
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right?

509
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Since I've been here, at one time it

510
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was common practice to pave over them

511
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and then excavate when they wanted to access

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them. But during the last few years

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of Joe's time here, that

514
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changed, it changed to "why are we doing

515
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that?". So we started to correct it

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. Probably some of the ones

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Carrie mentions were paved

518
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10 or 15 years ago and it was never

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identified that they were there.

520
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And there are only two of those that you know of.

521
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Yes that's

522
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fine. No, no, you said two. That's what

523
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I was...

524
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You have to understand that when we did

525
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the GPS mapping of the system, we had a

526
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very old, faded, and not

527
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necessarily up-to-date map. So

528
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we took that map. We did a lot of

529
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fieldwork with the GPS, and that's where

530
00:20:51,146 --> 00:20:53,755
we really needed to start. And

531
00:20:53,755 --> 00:20:56,954
all of this is coming together now. That's why

532
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I, you know, really

533
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pushed to get the GPS done.

534
00:21:00,579 --> 00:21:02,339
To have a starting point.

535
00:21:02,339 --> 00:21:04,806
If you have a GPS and you're nearby,

536
00:21:04,806 --> 00:21:09,048
could a metal detector detect it?

537
00:21:09,048 --> 00:21:10,899
Well, we searched the cemetery trying

538
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to find all the ones that were there

539
00:21:12,751 --> 00:21:13,531
and we couldn't.

540
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With a metal detector? Yes.

541
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I think we're getting lost in the

542
00:21:17,898 --> 00:21:18,613
details. Alright

543
00:21:18,613 --> 00:21:20,344
. No no. I was just

544
00:21:20,344 --> 00:21:22,240
curious. That's all.

545
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So, they have three levels.

546
00:21:25,799 --> 00:21:26,319
Yes. They

547
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are prioritized. Level one

548
00:21:30,244 --> 00:21:32,474
concerns safety.

549
00:21:32,474 --> 00:21:34,942
Level two is quite important, and

550
00:21:34,942 --> 00:21:36,825
level three is a

551
00:21:36,825 --> 00:21:41,525
research program. What...and maybe I

552
00:21:41,525 --> 00:21:45,213
missed...maybe I missed that? What

553
00:21:45,213 --> 00:21:47,035
would it financially entail to address

554
00:21:47,035 --> 00:21:50,029
the entire first level? Are there any, uh

555
00:21:50,029 --> 00:21:51,559
...

556
00:21:51,559 --> 00:21:53,993
they have the short report, if you go to the

557
00:21:53,993 --> 00:21:56,427
second to last page, the sheet describes

558
00:21:56,427 --> 00:21:58,730
that in number six, summary of

559
00:21:58,730 --> 00:22:00,572
costs and

560
00:22:00,572 --> 00:22:07,255
financing considerations. So yes, I see it

561
00:22:07,255 --> 00:22:10,680
broken down into 1,500 per manhole.

562
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,058
Uh, a contractor quote is needed

563
00:22:12,058 --> 00:22:14,189
for level two. I didn't

564
00:22:14,189 --> 00:22:15,664
know if we had more

565
00:22:15,664 --> 00:22:18,223
specific numbers. Um, in the immediate next steps

566
00:22:18,223 --> 00:22:20,086
, he says, uh, $50,000

567
00:22:20,086 --> 00:22:22,460
of capital line for materials.

568
00:22:22,460 --> 00:22:24,530
Is that the total amount, we believe, for

569
00:22:24,530 --> 00:22:25,699
the first level?

570
00:22:25,699 --> 00:22:28,159
We're in...um, I think so.

571
00:22:28,159 --> 00:22:32,917
OK. Going to point seven on the

572
00:22:32,917 --> 00:22:37,657
next page, I imagine,

573
00:22:37,657 --> 00:22:39,642
based on the wording, that 50,000 is what we

574
00:22:39,642 --> 00:22:41,679
're considering for the first

575
00:22:41,679 --> 00:22:43,779
level, but

576
00:22:43,779 --> 00:22:45,597
that's to rehabilitate those

577
00:22:45,597 --> 00:22:47,563
identified as the most serious, the

578
00:22:47,563 --> 00:22:49,479
manholes, and that's basically just

579
00:22:49,479 --> 00:22:51,347
some repair work, um, changing

580
00:22:51,347 --> 00:22:53,540
some of the covers.

581
00:22:53,540 --> 00:22:57,194
OK. And do we have, does the DPW have the

582
00:22:57,194 --> 00:23:02,328
capacity to make this a

583
00:23:02,328 --> 00:23:05,091
focal point for some time, I don't know how long

584
00:23:05,091 --> 00:23:07,865
this would take. I know part of this

585
00:23:07,865 --> 00:23:09,793
says, uh, certain fall

586
00:23:09,893 --> 00:23:10,271
of

587
00:23:10,271 --> 00:23:19,050
2026. Um, where, where am I? Right

588
00:23:19,050 --> 00:23:27,468
here. Um, so 50,000 in material

589
00:23:27,468 --> 00:23:30,611
for the first level and we have,

590
00:23:30,611 --> 00:23:35,107
where did I see this? I'm looking for numbers all over

591
00:23:35,107 --> 00:23:37,499
this, this uh document here.

592
00:23:37,499 --> 00:23:40,120
Uh, we have, uh, a balance in the

593
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:42,780
sewer reserve fund of what

594
00:23:42,780 --> 00:23:44,458
and I don't think that's necessarily

595
00:23:44,458 --> 00:23:46,182
correct now because we had some

596
00:23:46,182 --> 00:23:47,906
expenses that came out of there and we're

597
00:23:47,906 --> 00:23:49,585
having, um, the work done at the

598
00:23:49,585 --> 00:23:51,320
River Street pumping station.

599
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:51,800
Yes.

600
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,246
Um, that's going to have to come from there, and

601
00:23:53,246 --> 00:23:55,279
engineering came from there. So I

602
00:23:55,279 --> 00:23:56,992
'm not exactly sure about that

603
00:23:56,992 --> 00:23:58,852
balance, and I think that was before they got

604
00:23:58,852 --> 00:24:01,428
paid as well.

605
00:24:01,428 --> 00:24:04,339
Where would you recommend we start?

606
00:24:04,339 --> 00:24:06,465
So, I think if we take the, um,

607
00:24:06,465 --> 00:24:08,429
manholes listed in this

608
00:24:08,429 --> 00:24:10,610
report that we can actually fix, there are

609
00:24:10,610 --> 00:24:12,792
probably about 15 to start

610
00:24:12,792 --> 00:24:14,646
doing that if DPW and Wastefire

611
00:24:14,646 --> 00:24:16,773
could work together and come up with a

612
00:24:16,773 --> 00:24:18,900
plan to at least address maybe one

613
00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:20,079
per week.

614
00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:20,640
Yes.

615
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,429
Um, the cleaning needs to be done this

616
00:24:22,429 --> 00:24:24,264
fall for everyone identified

617
00:24:24,264 --> 00:24:25,733
in the report as needing a

618
00:24:25,733 --> 00:24:27,992
deep clean. M, um, so I'm going

619
00:24:27,992 --> 00:24:30,508
to address that part and we have 15,000,

620
00:24:30,508 --> 00:24:32,626
I think, in the, um, at the bottom of the

621
00:24:32,626 --> 00:24:34,877
sewer that I had, uh,

622
00:24:34,877 --> 00:24:37,524
put there for cleaning, but we're going to

623
00:24:37,524 --> 00:24:40,040
use that for a deep clean and

624
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,340
not a general clean. So that

625
00:24:42,340 --> 00:24:44,176
will probably be closer to 10,000

626
00:24:44,176 --> 00:24:46,251
instead of 15,000. So 5,000 of that

627
00:24:46,251 --> 00:24:47,739
could probably go towards

628
00:24:47,739 --> 00:24:49,679
some of the repairs.

629
00:24:49,679 --> 00:24:52,247
OK. To do all that

630
00:24:52,247 --> 00:24:53,840
immediately, how much money would

631
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,417
I need? I need to meet with

632
00:24:56,417 --> 00:24:57,998
Nate and see what kind of covers we have,

633
00:24:57,998 --> 00:24:59,624
because we might have covers and

634
00:24:59,624 --> 00:25:01,159
things like that, so I don't feel

635
00:25:01,159 --> 00:25:02,640
comfortable giving him a number. Alright

636
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,279
. So, uh, when... So,

637
00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:07,379
basically, I'm just

638
00:25:07,379 --> 00:25:09,659
looking for guidance on, you know,

639
00:25:09,659 --> 00:25:11,879
the possibility of taking another 50,000

640
00:25:11,879 --> 00:25:14,219
maybe and seeing what I can do with Oil

641
00:25:14,219 --> 00:25:17,619
and Tanner for further research.

642
00:25:17,619 --> 00:25:19,986
Well, Adam Street's report has

643
00:25:19,986 --> 00:25:23,932
n't arrived yet. That project, as it

644
00:25:23,932 --> 00:25:26,786
now looks, is that we're going to end up

645
00:25:26,786 --> 00:25:29,716
with pump replacements and

646
00:25:29,716 --> 00:25:32,267
pipe replacements. The

647
00:25:32,267 --> 00:25:34,210
intake pipes that are in the wet well

648
00:25:34,210 --> 00:25:36,460
. We probably won't have to redo

649
00:25:36,460 --> 00:25:38,113
the pumping pipe. We did the

650
00:25:38,113 --> 00:25:39,843
reduction test and it seems the

651
00:25:39,843 --> 00:25:41,339
pump pipe is not the

652
00:25:41,339 --> 00:25:43,368
problem. It's a 6-inch pipe,

653
00:25:43,368 --> 00:25:46,213
which should be sufficient. It seems

654
00:25:46,213 --> 00:25:47,986
the bombs are working

655
00:25:47,986 --> 00:25:49,758
against each other, and that's the

656
00:25:49,758 --> 00:25:52,562
main problem. We are considering a

657
00:25:52,562 --> 00:25:54,530
completely different design, with the

658
00:25:54,530 --> 00:25:56,499
pumps having a main pump and

659
00:25:56,499 --> 00:25:58,663
a backup pump. Thus, one is

660
00:25:58,663 --> 00:26:00,693
stronger than the other. And they won't

661
00:26:00,693 --> 00:26:03,460
surpass each other so easily. And

662
00:26:03,460 --> 00:26:05,313
hopefully that will solve some of

663
00:26:05,313 --> 00:26:07,217
the problems at our

664
00:26:07,217 --> 00:26:10,432
Adam Street pumping station. But part of

665
00:26:10,432 --> 00:26:12,755
that project would also be to build this

666
00:26:12,755 --> 00:26:15,079
sewer right here, at the corner

667
00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:18,162
of West and Washington. We know that that

668
00:26:18,162 --> 00:26:19,779
sewer is completely

669
00:26:19,779 --> 00:26:21,690
deteriorated and is not draining properly

670
00:26:21,690 --> 00:26:23,600
. The way it discharges, it

671
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,532
basically hits against the wall and

672
00:26:25,532 --> 00:26:27,339
is deteriorating it even more. It

673
00:26:27,339 --> 00:26:28,515
should have fallen

674
00:26:28,515 --> 00:26:32,460
straight inwards. I

675
00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:34,910
understand that that

676
00:26:34,910 --> 00:26:37,780
particular sewer is beyond our capabilities.

677
00:26:37,780 --> 00:26:40,363
Correct. Because that will have to be

678
00:26:40,363 --> 00:26:41,766
pumped with a bypass system.

679
00:26:41,766 --> 00:26:42,379
And

680
00:26:42,379 --> 00:26:44,366
that's not really something we have

681
00:26:44,366 --> 00:26:46,461
the ability to do.

682
00:26:46,461 --> 00:26:48,679
The Adam Street pumping station.

683
00:26:48,679 --> 00:26:51,499
How suitable is it for something like

684
00:26:51,499 --> 00:26:53,339
growth?

685
00:26:53,339 --> 00:26:57,629
No, it's not suitable at all. And that

686
00:26:57,629 --> 00:26:59,609
leads to further discussions about

687
00:26:59,609 --> 00:27:01,809
needing to conduct hydraulic studies

688
00:27:01,809 --> 00:27:04,009
at some of our other

689
00:27:04,009 --> 00:27:06,209
pumping stations as well, because if we plan to

690
00:27:06,209 --> 00:27:08,024
develop anything, our other

691
00:27:08,024 --> 00:27:10,059
pumping stations are going to need

692
00:27:10,059 --> 00:27:14,344
increased capacity. Oh, that may be it,

693
00:27:14,344 --> 00:27:18,319
we really should take one

694
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:19,979
and the engineers have asked for

695
00:27:19,979 --> 00:27:21,337
a deep dive into that

696
00:27:21,337 --> 00:27:22,259
engineering

697
00:27:22,259 --> 00:27:24,053
and the engineers have asked what

698
00:27:24,053 --> 00:27:25,880
our development plans are. There's

699
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,548
no point in spending money twice

700
00:27:27,548 --> 00:27:28,371
here.

701
00:27:28,371 --> 00:27:30,480
Correct. Exactly.

702
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,679
Yes.

703
00:27:32,679 --> 00:27:34,343
And just to give my opinion on this, it was

704
00:27:34,343 --> 00:27:35,965
in the spring when we did our

705
00:27:35,965 --> 00:27:38,482
hydraulic cleaning. It was the first

706
00:27:38,482 --> 00:27:40,832
time we met and put water into

707
00:27:40,832 --> 00:27:44,962
the sewer system. We opened

708
00:27:44,962 --> 00:27:47,217
a fire hydrant on Academy Street

709
00:27:47,217 --> 00:27:49,473
and it overwhelmed that pumping station

710
00:27:49,473 --> 00:27:53,079
there. So, you know, they were

711
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:55,224
thinking of putting a new development

712
00:27:55,224 --> 00:27:57,510
there on Academy Street. They have to

713
00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:59,220
rebuild the sewers and

714
00:27:59,220 --> 00:28:01,532
Oh, yes. Yes. It is, I mean, it's

715
00:28:01,532 --> 00:28:03,499
part of the conversation. Well, yes,

716
00:28:03,499 --> 00:28:05,582
but I'm just saying that as we

717
00:28:05,582 --> 00:28:08,319
start putting water in these...

718
00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:10,368
Well, that's true. It's about setting

719
00:28:10,368 --> 00:28:12,288
appropriate expectations so that everyone

720
00:28:12,288 --> 00:28:13,678
understands where we are,

721
00:28:13,678 --> 00:28:15,933
probably exposing many problems

722
00:28:15,933 --> 00:28:17,537
that we don't even know about.

723
00:28:17,537 --> 00:28:24,619
Yes. Yes. No, good point. Good point.

724
00:28:24,619 --> 00:28:26,903
Just one question about your level 2, your

725
00:28:26,903 --> 00:28:29,130
first line, um, has a flow of

726
00:28:29,130 --> 00:28:32,319
5700 gallons per day. Is that a

727
00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:34,479
water leak or what?

728
00:28:34,479 --> 00:28:36,444
So, the flow can come from

729
00:28:36,444 --> 00:28:38,143
anything, from

730
00:28:38,143 --> 00:28:40,055
sump pumps to holes in our

731
00:28:40,055 --> 00:28:42,875
sewers. Um, and we have several

732
00:28:42,875 --> 00:28:44,837
manholes that actually still

733
00:28:44,837 --> 00:28:46,698
have the old hook holes

734
00:28:46,698 --> 00:28:48,711
where they would go and hook them up, you know,

735
00:28:48,711 --> 00:28:50,819
pull them out that way. Those don't

736
00:28:50,819 --> 00:28:52,219
need much of a crack to let

737
00:28:52,219 --> 00:28:54,274
in a lot of water. Um, so

738
00:28:54,274 --> 00:28:55,542
, and we know we have

739
00:28:55,542 --> 00:28:57,094
cracked pipes. We have, we have

740
00:28:57,094 --> 00:28:57,819
clay pipes.

741
00:28:57,819 --> 00:28:59,914
Where, where is that?

742
00:28:59,914 --> 00:29:00,967
Those sewers.

743
00:29:00,967 --> 00:29:02,938
No. Where is that leak? Where

744
00:29:02,938 --> 00:29:05,522
is that in...? It does not appear by name.

745
00:29:05,522 --> 00:29:06,308
It's listed by

746
00:29:06,308 --> 00:29:07,740
No, I'll have to go to the

747
00:29:07,740 --> 00:29:09,340
district court to get the

748
00:29:09,340 --> 00:29:10,983
exact locations, but it's practically

749
00:29:10,983 --> 00:29:12,776
everywhere. We probably have,

750
00:29:12,776 --> 00:29:14,631
I think there are probably 20 of those

751
00:29:14,631 --> 00:29:16,486
manholes that still have the

752
00:29:16,486 --> 00:29:18,064
hook holes. So, that's

753
00:29:18,064 --> 00:29:19,719
coming in directly. We know that

754
00:29:19,719 --> 00:29:22,722
we have, um, rainwater connected

755
00:29:22,722 --> 00:29:25,555
in, um, near Academy Street. There are

756
00:29:25,555 --> 00:29:27,188
three storm drains right there

757
00:29:27,188 --> 00:29:28,732
that we identified when Mike and I

758
00:29:28,732 --> 00:29:30,758
were cleaning. Um, that's part

759
00:29:30,758 --> 00:29:32,452
of the plan for this fall, to continue

760
00:29:32,452 --> 00:29:34,708
with that. But I have an

761
00:29:34,708 --> 00:29:36,511
immersion solution. So, we're actually going

762
00:29:36,511 --> 00:29:39,264
to check, um, while we're, running some

763
00:29:39,264 --> 00:29:41,043
water over there. It will be a good

764
00:29:41,043 --> 00:29:42,901
opportunity to review the storms

765
00:29:42,901 --> 00:29:46,626
and see if they are connected or not. But

766
00:29:46,626 --> 00:29:48,282
we know that, we know that we have them on

767
00:29:48,282 --> 00:29:51,539
the south side.

768
00:29:51,539 --> 00:29:53,281
And also, that clay pipe also

769
00:29:53,281 --> 00:29:54,851
lets water in.

770
00:29:54,851 --> 00:29:55,629
Absolutely.

771
00:29:55,629 --> 00:29:57,794
Water enters each joint at certain

772
00:29:57,794 --> 00:30:05,779
times of the year. Yes.

773
00:30:05,779 --> 00:30:07,460
And I'm not looking for a decision

774
00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:09,286
tonight in any way. I just

775
00:30:09,286 --> 00:30:11,614
wanted them to know what our

776
00:30:11,614 --> 00:30:13,379
idea, our plan, is.

777
00:30:13,379 --> 00:30:15,329
And with some of this we can already begin.

778
00:30:15,329 --> 00:30:18,509
Um, the other thing I wanted to talk about, I was

779
00:30:18,509 --> 00:30:20,770
n't sure if they needed

780
00:30:20,770 --> 00:30:23,243
additional funds from the reserve to

781
00:30:23,243 --> 00:30:25,539
help them with...

782
00:30:25,539 --> 00:30:27,134
I think I'd like to sit down with

783
00:30:27,134 --> 00:30:28,729
Public Works and see what we can

784
00:30:28,729 --> 00:30:30,552
do internally before approaching

785
00:30:30,552 --> 00:30:32,148
them, but I haven't really had the

786
00:30:32,148 --> 00:30:33,880
time; You know, Nate and I have only

787
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,144
talked about the 12 sewers. It's the

788
00:30:36,144 --> 00:30:37,290
only thing we've had time to

789
00:30:37,290 --> 00:30:40,220
sit down and talk about. Um, okay.

790
00:30:40,220 --> 00:30:41,937
But, uh, I think I want to sit down with

791
00:30:41,937 --> 00:30:43,699
him and see what we have in inventory

792
00:30:43,699 --> 00:30:46,100
that we can repair. What does he feel he

793
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:48,226
can fix? What do I need to get

794
00:30:48,226 --> 00:30:50,415
quotes for regarding the sewers we've

795
00:30:50,415 --> 00:30:52,791
identified as being at higher risk?

796
00:30:52,791 --> 00:30:55,570
Is it something we can do ourselves? Is it

797
00:30:55,570 --> 00:30:58,479
something I need to get quotes from external providers?

798
00:30:58,479 --> 00:30:59,740
So, we also don't

799
00:30:59,740 --> 00:31:01,316
want to deplete our

800
00:31:01,316 --> 00:31:02,938
reserves in everything related to

801
00:31:02,938 --> 00:31:04,694
engineering because things always come up

802
00:31:04,694 --> 00:31:06,751
. I mean, obviously, River Street, we didn't

803
00:31:06,751 --> 00:31:08,115
expect that one to have a

804
00:31:08,115 --> 00:31:12,556
problem. Um, and the other thing I

805
00:31:12,556 --> 00:31:14,786
thought might be helpful, since I

806
00:31:14,786 --> 00:31:16,793
know you guys really can't

807
00:31:16,793 --> 00:31:18,911
solve a lot of problems in one

808
00:31:18,911 --> 00:31:21,140
meeting, is to form a small committee

809
00:31:21,140 --> 00:31:24,459
that can start reviewing all of this.

810
00:31:24,459 --> 00:31:26,181
Um, I know Sam is familiar with

811
00:31:26,181 --> 00:31:27,688
some of the things I've been

812
00:31:27,688 --> 00:31:29,152
trying to work on, but

813
00:31:29,152 --> 00:31:30,745
our sewer allocation form

814
00:31:30,745 --> 00:31:32,253
is completely

815
00:31:32,253 --> 00:31:34,058
outdated. Um, that really

816
00:31:34,058 --> 00:31:35,914
needs updating. So I've already

817
00:31:35,914 --> 00:31:38,571
made drafts of that. Um, we didn't

818
00:31:38,571 --> 00:31:40,897
have a temporary download form

819
00:31:40,897 --> 00:31:43,895
. So, when we have

820
00:31:43,895 --> 00:31:45,877
businesses in the area that need to

821
00:31:45,877 --> 00:31:48,029
download something to our system and

822
00:31:48,029 --> 00:31:50,239
aren't regular users for some reason

823
00:31:50,239 --> 00:31:52,448
, or need to download something extra, I've

824
00:31:52,448 --> 00:31:54,487
designed a temporary download form

825
00:31:54,487 --> 00:31:56,413
so we can get

826
00:31:56,413 --> 00:31:58,838
analytics and have a guide. Because we can't

827
00:31:58,838 --> 00:32:00,205
say "No, it can't," if we don't

828
00:32:00,205 --> 00:32:01,495
even have a

829
00:32:01,495 --> 00:32:04,220
temporary download form. Um, I've been

830
00:32:04,220 --> 00:32:06,362
working on an

831
00:32:06,362 --> 00:32:09,459
industrial pretreatment survey. So, if

832
00:32:09,459 --> 00:32:11,157
people come who we know are going to

833
00:32:11,157 --> 00:32:12,765
have a business, they can take this

834
00:32:12,765 --> 00:32:14,463
survey so we know what they are

835
00:32:14,463 --> 00:32:16,698
contributing to our system. Um, and

836
00:32:16,698 --> 00:32:18,336
we might be able to get something

837
00:32:18,336 --> 00:32:20,478
established. And that applies even to

838
00:32:20,478 --> 00:32:22,170
restaurants, because we've been

839
00:32:22,170 --> 00:32:24,020
terrible with our

840
00:32:24,020 --> 00:32:26,199
fat ordinance and it's taking its toll.

841
00:32:26,199 --> 00:32:28,746
So I've worked on a

842
00:32:28,746 --> 00:32:31,166
fat and FOG reduction program, and we have

843
00:32:31,166 --> 00:32:33,204
a checklist for

844
00:32:33,204 --> 00:32:35,751
our restaurants that they can follow

845
00:32:35,751 --> 00:32:38,161
. Perhaps we can at least start by

846
00:32:38,161 --> 00:32:39,990
inspecting some of our

847
00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:41,766
restaurants, you know, giving them

848
00:32:41,766 --> 00:32:43,594
guidance on what not to

849
00:32:43,594 --> 00:32:46,659
pour. And if we at least show up from time

850
00:32:46,659 --> 00:32:48,476
to time, the grease traps will get

851
00:32:48,476 --> 00:32:50,396
cleaned because they know we'll come to see them

852
00:32:50,396 --> 00:32:53,782
. Uh, our municipal

853
00:32:53,782 --> 00:32:55,097
sewerage ordinance is very

854
00:32:55,097 --> 00:32:56,995
outdated. There are things about it that

855
00:32:56,995 --> 00:32:59,091
no longer apply. For example, we have

856
00:32:59,091 --> 00:33:00,367
there that it is acceptable to have, uh,

857
00:33:00,367 --> 00:33:01,797
food waste disposers, you know,

858
00:33:01,797 --> 00:33:03,866
garbage disposals connected to the system. The state

859
00:33:03,866 --> 00:33:05,228
of Vermont has banned that. There

860
00:33:05,228 --> 00:33:06,747
should be no

861
00:33:06,747 --> 00:33:08,475
garbage disposal connected to any system.

862
00:33:08,475 --> 00:33:09,931
You know, we know that all

863
00:33:09,931 --> 00:33:11,487
food waste must be composted now.

864
00:33:11,487 --> 00:33:13,111
It's how it should be in

865
00:33:13,111 --> 00:33:16,399
regular trash. So, there's a lot of work to be done and

866
00:33:16,399 --> 00:33:19,147
things that need to be reviewed. And I'm

867
00:33:19,147 --> 00:33:20,792
thinking that if we had a small

868
00:33:20,792 --> 00:33:22,395
committee that could meet from time to

869
00:33:22,395 --> 00:33:23,752
time and start reviewing these

870
00:33:23,752 --> 00:33:25,273
drafts and how to implement

871
00:33:25,273 --> 00:33:28,220
some of these things.

872
00:33:28,220 --> 00:33:32,459
OK. Um, let's

873
00:33:32,459 --> 00:33:34,247
work on forming that, Carrie, because I

874
00:33:34,247 --> 00:33:35,100
believe it's something

875
00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:37,780
I'd like to be a part of.

876
00:33:37,780 --> 00:33:39,740
Yes, we can work on forming that

877
00:33:39,740 --> 00:33:41,279
committee and then when I

878
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:43,159
know, go, look at that.

879
00:33:43,159 --> 00:33:44,950
When there is a draft that the entire

880
00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:46,592
board can review, then

881
00:33:46,592 --> 00:33:47,660
we will address it and that's

882
00:33:47,660 --> 00:33:49,349
fine. Because I mean, I

883
00:33:49,349 --> 00:33:50,910
started them, but obviously I need

884
00:33:50,910 --> 00:33:57,541
input. So that's what the

885
00:33:57,541 --> 00:34:01,377
questions are. No, that was great.

886
00:34:01,377 --> 00:34:02,498
Thank you very much,

887
00:34:02,498 --> 00:34:04,629
very revealing. Excellent work.

888
00:34:04,629 --> 00:34:07,299
Thank you.

889
00:34:07,299 --> 00:34:09,532
for your hard work and bad

890
00:34:09,532 --> 00:34:12,320
nose.

891
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,539
Although he put a smile on her face.

892
00:34:14,539 --> 00:34:16,123
Just so you know, regarding the

893
00:34:16,123 --> 00:34:17,848
disposal problem we have right

894
00:34:17,848 --> 00:34:19,666
now, we are limiting how much

895
00:34:19,666 --> 00:34:22,328
we are wasting. So I'm not going

896
00:34:22,328 --> 00:34:24,286
to arrive. I'm not going to have

897
00:34:24,286 --> 00:34:26,534
perfect numbers. So I'm going to...we're

898
00:34:26,534 --> 00:34:28,173
limiting how much we're

899
00:34:28,173 --> 00:34:30,264
wasting. We've been

900
00:34:30,264 --> 00:34:32,808
transferring like crazy. Uh, actually

901
00:34:32,808 --> 00:34:34,628
I transferred 20,000 gallons from the

902
00:34:34,628 --> 00:34:36,639
sludge storage tanks.

903
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:38,447
So we have some space, so

904
00:34:38,447 --> 00:34:40,256
we're not in a desperate situation, and that's why

905
00:34:40,256 --> 00:34:41,974
I'm limiting what

906
00:34:41,974 --> 00:34:44,628
I send to Connectivity. So,

907
00:34:44,628 --> 00:34:46,427
we're doing everything we can

908
00:34:46,427 --> 00:34:48,334
internally to limit the

909
00:34:48,334 --> 00:34:50,859
additional cost.

910
00:34:50,859 --> 00:34:52,746
Thank you. I had a question at the

911
00:34:52,746 --> 00:34:55,159
last meeting. Precision Industrial.

912
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:55,822
Yes.

913
00:34:55,822 --> 00:34:57,099
What...what did they clean?

914
00:34:57,099 --> 00:34:58,719
They came and cleaned all the sand from

915
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,539
the Atom Street pumping station.

916
00:35:00,539 --> 00:35:02,270
Uh, they couldn't carry out the

917
00:35:02,270 --> 00:35:04,049
hydraulic study with the amount of sand

918
00:35:04,049 --> 00:35:06,170
that was there. And in fact, my transducer

919
00:35:06,170 --> 00:35:08,101
that operates the pumps was submerged

920
00:35:08,101 --> 00:35:09,100
in sand.

921
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:10,723
So they sucked all of that up. And

922
00:35:10,723 --> 00:35:12,741
our aeration basin that we've had

923
00:35:12,741 --> 00:35:16,560
out of service had

924
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,452
more sand than they could take to

925
00:35:18,452 --> 00:35:21,379
Schenectady. So obviously

926
00:35:21,379 --> 00:35:23,143
sand is still a problem even

927
00:35:23,143 --> 00:35:24,907
with our sand removal system

928
00:35:24,907 --> 00:35:28,180
. So they cleaned all the sand

929
00:35:28,180 --> 00:35:30,775
. Um, it was actually at the same level

930
00:35:30,775 --> 00:35:33,574
as the top of the aerators

931
00:35:33,574 --> 00:35:36,280
and uh Terry came over, I had him come and

932
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,115
see how much sand

933
00:35:38,115 --> 00:35:40,094
was actually in there. And

934
00:35:40,094 --> 00:35:41,416
obviously we can't allow it to

935
00:35:41,416 --> 00:35:42,888
reach the level of our aerators

936
00:35:42,888 --> 00:35:44,810
because it would cut off aeration. We made

937
00:35:44,810 --> 00:35:46,764
one tank this year and we'll make the other

938
00:35:46,764 --> 00:35:48,359
tank next year. Alright

939
00:35:48,359 --> 00:35:54,760
. Thank you.

940
00:35:54,760 --> 00:36:00,654
Very good. We have Chuck Brown on the

941
00:36:00,654 --> 00:36:02,019
agenda. I

942
00:36:02,019 --> 00:36:04,340
don't see it here. He joined us

943
00:36:04,340 --> 00:36:05,859
via Zoom. I was

944
00:36:05,859 --> 00:36:07,745
just looking for a letter of support for a

945
00:36:07,745 --> 00:36:09,255
pedestrian crossing in front of the

946
00:36:09,255 --> 00:36:12,179
Capton Community Center, um, from the board,

947
00:36:12,179 --> 00:36:15,599
looking for it from you, the board. Alright

948
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:16,219
.

949
00:36:16,219 --> 00:36:18,549
Um, basically a letter, just a letter of

950
00:36:18,549 --> 00:36:20,780
support. Um, they are requesting to install

951
00:36:20,780 --> 00:36:22,162
a pedestrian crossing. I think it's the

952
00:36:22,162 --> 00:36:23,746
senior center, the community hub

953
00:36:23,846 --> 00:36:26,000
to cross over to the trails, I

954
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,194
imagine. Yes. So that would be something they would have to

955
00:36:28,194 --> 00:36:29,784
go to the

956
00:36:29,784 --> 00:36:31,779
state for

957
00:36:31,779 --> 00:36:34,419
because our people use it. So that's why

958
00:36:34,419 --> 00:36:36,320
they're okay with it.

959
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,779
They also serve our

960
00:36:38,779 --> 00:36:40,393
citizens. Yes. I did it

961
00:36:40,393 --> 00:36:42,613
. He said he would come. So do

962
00:36:42,613 --> 00:36:45,011
n't

963
00:36:45,011 --> 00:36:49,439
excuse me. I don't know who Chuck is. I did

964
00:36:49,439 --> 00:36:52,716
n't know. I believe that in the past,

965
00:36:52,716 --> 00:36:54,924
when towns or other municipalities

966
00:36:54,924 --> 00:36:57,074
have asked for our support,

967
00:36:57,074 --> 00:36:59,282
their boards have usually requested some kind

968
00:36:59,282 --> 00:37:01,050
of backing.

969
00:37:01,050 --> 00:37:04,911
Yes. I don't know if he's a member of the

970
00:37:04,911 --> 00:37:07,158
Capital Center. Don't know. He called me and

971
00:37:07,158 --> 00:37:09,097
asked to be on the board's agenda

972
00:37:09,097 --> 00:37:11,100
. Don't know. I told him today at

973
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:11,506
7:00. I do

974
00:37:11,506 --> 00:37:13,240
n't know if it's a reasonable suggestion to

975
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:15,020
make if you speak to Mr. Roundtree

976
00:37:15,020 --> 00:37:17,545
again. But perhaps we could sign

977
00:37:17,545 --> 00:37:19,508
as part of many in a single

978
00:37:19,508 --> 00:37:21,419
letter, if perhaps that would not be as

979
00:37:21,419 --> 00:37:23,330
significant as writing our

980
00:37:23,330 --> 00:37:25,840
own letter. But it would

981
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,500
certainly alleviate the burden. Yes.

982
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:31,206
And even if that, or if they authorize one of

983
00:37:31,206 --> 00:37:32,824
us to write a letter on his

984
00:37:32,824 --> 00:37:34,575
behalf supporting him, that's also

985
00:37:34,575 --> 00:37:37,839
fine if he contacts us. Alright

986
00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:40,690
. Why not, why not

987
00:37:40,690 --> 00:37:42,680
, why don't we postpone this issue

988
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,508
to give it a little more time

989
00:37:44,508 --> 00:37:46,659
while we review the rest of our

990
00:37:46,659 --> 00:37:48,541
new business, and if it comes up we can

991
00:37:48,541 --> 00:37:55,238
accept it? We have Mr. Richards on

992
00:37:55,238 --> 00:37:58,171
the agenda for two topics. First,

993
00:37:58,171 --> 00:37:59,780
review of Law 181 of the

994
00:37:59,780 --> 00:38:03,797
planning board. Um, with the great

995
00:38:03,797 --> 00:38:08,219
spirit of delegation and

996
00:38:08,219 --> 00:38:10,811
the first part has been mainly

997
00:38:10,811 --> 00:38:13,274
my fieldwork, uh, right now,

998
00:38:13,274 --> 00:38:18,344
so we got level 1B and to

999
00:38:18,344 --> 00:38:21,121
get to level 1A now we have to

1000
00:38:21,121 --> 00:38:26,749
form the center association, the steps I

1001
00:38:26,749 --> 00:38:29,676
have to follow right now are to create

1002
00:38:29,676 --> 00:38:32,453
a memorandum of understanding with the

1003
00:38:32,453 --> 00:38:36,834
people. And then the state wants

1004
00:38:36,834 --> 00:38:42,264
us to have a community reinvestment agreement

1005
00:38:42,264 --> 00:38:44,961
that all of you would

1006
00:38:44,961 --> 00:38:47,838
sign, along with the other

1007
00:38:47,838 --> 00:38:51,345
people who are helping with whoever

1008
00:38:51,345 --> 00:38:54,941
is on the board of this, just

1009
00:38:54,941 --> 00:38:58,447
to say that you support the

1010
00:38:58,447 --> 00:39:01,414
center's partnership and that you will help with the

1011
00:39:01,414 --> 00:39:05,874
memorandum of understanding.

1012
00:39:05,874 --> 00:39:09,303
They also want the town to provide an

1013
00:39:09,303 --> 00:39:12,825
annual stipend to the center's association

1014
00:39:12,825 --> 00:39:16,255
, preferably around

1015
00:39:16,255 --> 00:39:20,581
2,000 to 2,500 each year. And that would go towards

1016
00:39:20,581 --> 00:39:23,715
fixing up the center, or what

1017
00:39:23,715 --> 00:39:26,766
the state calls beautification,

1018
00:39:26,766 --> 00:39:29,900
to help us find someone to

1019
00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:32,952
help fund grants or to

1020
00:39:32,952 --> 00:39:40,040
write grant applications for us. Um,

1021
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,699
I've prepared a sort of draft

1022
00:39:44,699 --> 00:39:47,413
or a good draft of a 5-

1023
00:39:47,413 --> 00:39:52,220
year plan. And once I have everything ready,

1024
00:39:52,220 --> 00:39:55,961
I will present the 5-year plan, the

1025
00:39:55,961 --> 00:40:00,237
memorandum, the reinvestment agreement, and

1026
00:40:00,237 --> 00:40:04,179
all of that. Now, if my

1027
00:40:04,179 --> 00:40:05,895
memory serves me right, I thought we had already gone

1028
00:40:05,895 --> 00:40:08,000
down this road.

1029
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,367
So, we were on pause,

1030
00:40:10,367 --> 00:40:11,679
okay?

1031
00:40:11,679 --> 00:40:13,670
When Law 181, with all its

1032
00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:16,083
problems, was passed, this was put on hold because

1033
00:40:16,083 --> 00:40:18,376
I spoke to you about this

1034
00:40:18,376 --> 00:40:22,040
last year. Exactly the same. I

1035
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,013
even go back further, to when we

1036
00:40:24,013 --> 00:40:25,021
were

1037
00:40:25,021 --> 00:40:27,180
editing the municipal plan

1038
00:40:27,180 --> 00:40:28,536
and were thinking about the

1039
00:40:28,536 --> 00:40:30,207
designation of the center. Um,

1040
00:40:30,207 --> 00:40:32,381
right. TRUE. Yes. This has been in the

1041
00:40:32,381 --> 00:40:34,462
works forever, and now we're at

1042
00:40:34,462 --> 00:40:35,711
this stage.

1043
00:40:35,711 --> 00:40:36,860
OK. I am

1044
00:40:36,860 --> 00:40:38,659
level 1A.

1045
00:40:38,659 --> 00:40:40,552
I thought, not this iteration of the

1046
00:40:40,552 --> 00:40:42,804
board. I thought that when you were

1047
00:40:42,804 --> 00:40:44,829
on the board, we even had an

1048
00:40:44,829 --> 00:40:47,032
understanding—I don't know if anything was put

1049
00:40:47,032 --> 00:40:48,878
in writing—but we had an

1050
00:40:48,878 --> 00:40:50,605
understanding that there would be

1051
00:40:50,605 --> 00:40:52,629
year-on-year investments in a

1052
00:40:52,629 --> 00:40:55,181
partnership at the center. Was

1053
00:40:55,181 --> 00:40:57,264
any action taken at that time? We did

1054
00:40:57,264 --> 00:40:59,679
n't do it, we didn't get to that point.

1055
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:02,399
OK. Uh, they told us,

1056
00:41:02,399 --> 00:41:04,464
we directed the

1057
00:41:04,464 --> 00:41:07,340
planning commission to begin the process of

1058
00:41:07,340 --> 00:41:10,289
, um, of the law, of, um, uh, of the center

1059
00:41:10,289 --> 00:41:13,165
to obtain the center's designation

1060
00:41:13,165 --> 00:41:17,385
. So, the center is a

1061
00:41:17,385 --> 00:41:20,491
very bureaucratic initiative from the beginning, and

1062
00:41:20,491 --> 00:41:23,040
fortunately, Ann knows how to

1063
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,226
handle it much better than I do, because I get

1064
00:41:26,226 --> 00:41:28,775
very frustrated when, you know, you

1065
00:41:28,775 --> 00:41:31,801
submit something and then they say "yes,

1066
00:41:31,801 --> 00:41:32,739
but..."

1067
00:41:32,739 --> 00:41:34,379
oh yes.

1068
00:41:34,379 --> 00:41:37,389
So we've been dealing with that,

1069
00:41:37,389 --> 00:41:40,400
and when all the fuss happened with

1070
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,256
Law 81, the last part of which was

1071
00:41:43,256 --> 00:41:46,035
rural development, which doesn't affect us that much

1072
00:41:46,035 --> 00:41:50,848
. Um, the first part is what we

1073
00:41:50,848 --> 00:41:55,019
're trying to do at the center.

1074
00:41:55,019 --> 00:42:00,514
So that stayed pretty much the same, but it

1075
00:42:00,514 --> 00:42:02,499
changed enough that

1076
00:42:02,499 --> 00:42:05,187
we have to do everything again. We

1077
00:42:05,187 --> 00:42:09,175
already have much of that. Although we

1078
00:42:09,175 --> 00:42:12,142
looked at each other when you were talking about water

1079
00:42:12,142 --> 00:42:15,035
and sewage, and when we had a

1080
00:42:15,035 --> 00:42:17,779
designation that there were

1081
00:42:17,779 --> 00:42:20,523
adequate and developable water and

1082
00:42:20,523 --> 00:42:24,825
sewage services in the center. Um,

1083
00:42:24,825 --> 00:42:26,889
we'll need that again, and it looks like we'll

1084
00:42:26,889 --> 00:42:28,747
need to hear from the

1085
00:42:28,747 --> 00:42:30,656
water and sewer department again that we're still

1086
00:42:30,656 --> 00:42:35,507
okay. But we'll get to that as we

1087
00:42:35,507 --> 00:42:39,854
go through the steps.

1088
00:42:39,854 --> 00:42:42,070
Most of the steps are just

1089
00:42:42,070 --> 00:42:44,541
formalities. The next thing that

1090
00:42:44,541 --> 00:42:46,544
really needs to happen is the

1091
00:42:46,544 --> 00:42:48,422
partnership of the center,

1092
00:42:48,422 --> 00:42:52,361
right? I have to manage to train her. I had

1093
00:42:52,361 --> 00:42:54,955
several meetings last year, such as

1094
00:42:54,955 --> 00:42:58,532
with the Legion. I went to all the

1095
00:42:58,532 --> 00:43:00,761
different businesses downtown. Not

1096
00:43:00,761 --> 00:43:02,554
all of them, but I spoke with many of the

1097
00:43:02,554 --> 00:43:04,105
business owners to see if they

1098
00:43:04,105 --> 00:43:06,649
would be willing to join. I spoke

1099
00:43:06,649 --> 00:43:08,493
with a couple of members of the community

1100
00:43:08,493 --> 00:43:10,242
to see if they would be interested in

1101
00:43:10,242 --> 00:43:13,159
it. So it's been a while.

1102
00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:15,089
Therefore, I don't know if everyone

1103
00:43:15,089 --> 00:43:17,533
is still willing to join. They know it's

1104
00:43:17,533 --> 00:43:19,909
on hold, or that it was on

1105
00:43:19,909 --> 00:43:22,488
hold until the

1106
00:43:22,488 --> 00:43:25,135
Law 181 issue was resolved, because they weren't seeing any

1107
00:43:25,135 --> 00:43:26,299
of this.

1108
00:43:26,299 --> 00:43:26,879
Yes.

1109
00:43:26,879 --> 00:43:30,330
During that time. So there was no point in

1110
00:43:30,330 --> 00:43:33,140
moving forward if everything was going to change.

1111
00:43:33,140 --> 00:43:35,480
What are your thoughts on revisiting the

1112
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,360
EDP concept?

1113
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,333
Well, initially they didn't want to do it

1114
00:43:40,333 --> 00:43:43,880
, but on second thought.

1115
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,119
Maybe we need

1116
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:46,562
Yes.

1117
00:43:46,562 --> 00:43:48,399
Just to get enough

1118
00:43:48,399 --> 00:43:49,159
people.

1119
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:50,709
Mhm.

1120
00:43:50,709 --> 00:43:51,605
For both.

1121
00:43:51,605 --> 00:43:53,820
Yes. That's right. So

1122
00:43:53,820 --> 00:43:55,160
they can work, they should be able to

1123
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,399
work together in my opinion. It's just

1124
00:43:57,399 --> 00:43:58,619
that

1125
00:43:58,619 --> 00:44:00,457
one will be the other, probably

1126
00:44:00,457 --> 00:44:02,619
due to the number of volunteers

1127
00:44:02,619 --> 00:44:04,180
needed.

1128
00:44:04,180 --> 00:44:04,719
Yes.

1129
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,560
Correct.

1130
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,586
Well, and that was when I was talking to

1131
00:44:07,586 --> 00:44:09,838
Devon the other day, he seemed to think

1132
00:44:09,838 --> 00:44:12,089
that things had changed a bit,

1133
00:44:12,089 --> 00:44:14,284
that we could bring them together and make it

1134
00:44:14,284 --> 00:44:15,467
work.

1135
00:44:15,467 --> 00:44:17,235
That makes sense, doesn't

1136
00:44:17,235 --> 00:44:19,120
it? Yes, it really does.

1137
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,354
Yes. I don't know if our funds for the

1138
00:44:22,354 --> 00:44:24,178
center's partnership should

1139
00:44:24,178 --> 00:44:26,001
remain separate from the

1140
00:44:26,001 --> 00:44:29,819
EDC funds. Don't know.

1141
00:44:29,819 --> 00:44:32,288
Which means, they should know that we are

1142
00:44:32,288 --> 00:44:35,041
going to request funds in the

1143
00:44:35,041 --> 00:44:37,793
planning commission's budget to

1144
00:44:37,793 --> 00:44:41,807
have that. to have something to

1145
00:44:41,807 --> 00:44:43,999
start this year with. Hey. Alright

1146
00:44:43,999 --> 00:44:44,499
.

1147
00:44:44,499 --> 00:44:46,451
Uh, so you'll see it, no, don't give yourselves

1148
00:44:46,451 --> 00:44:48,543
a heart attack. It's not, it

1149
00:44:48,543 --> 00:44:49,870
's not the end of the world.

1150
00:44:49,870 --> 00:44:51,531
No, it's to help fund the

1151
00:44:51,531 --> 00:44:52,379
start of this.

1152
00:44:52,379 --> 00:44:56,994
Yes. And it will be for everything. Beautification

1153
00:44:56,994 --> 00:44:59,258
, uh, maybe even, uh,

1154
00:44:59,258 --> 00:45:02,106
infrastructure donations for a

1155
00:45:02,106 --> 00:45:05,539
grant, whatever.

1156
00:45:05,539 --> 00:45:08,386
Well, but it's, it's what the state wants

1157
00:45:08,386 --> 00:45:11,159
. They want to see that there is a

1158
00:45:11,159 --> 00:45:14,979
commitment from the people.

1159
00:45:14,979 --> 00:45:18,299
towards the center and towards the corporation

1160
00:45:18,299 --> 00:45:21,453
or towards development, the association

1161
00:45:21,453 --> 00:45:24,204
that is there. So that's what they

1162
00:45:24,204 --> 00:45:26,921
're looking for. What they want

1163
00:45:26,921 --> 00:45:29,757
is for us to work on improving

1164
00:45:29,757 --> 00:45:33,037
Fair Haven's infrastructure by being

1165
00:45:33,037 --> 00:45:37,880
an ally to the people, to, uh,

1166
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,324
provide energy and input to

1167
00:45:40,324 --> 00:45:42,843
address bicycle and

1168
00:45:42,843 --> 00:45:44,770
pedestrian access, signage,

1169
00:45:44,770 --> 00:45:47,066
parking, lighting,

1170
00:45:47,066 --> 00:45:49,586
landscaping, accessibility,

1171
00:45:49,586 --> 00:45:52,401
connectivity, and other things that may

1172
00:45:52,401 --> 00:45:58,055
come up. Yes, I don't know, I was going to send, I was going to

1173
00:45:58,055 --> 00:46:01,344
send Terry. I was going to send them

1174
00:46:01,344 --> 00:46:03,643
Ann's five-year plan. It is, it is a

1175
00:46:03,643 --> 00:46:06,245
very good document. I'll send them to you.

1176
00:46:06,245 --> 00:46:08,738
I mean, you can all read it. Did I

1177
00:46:08,738 --> 00:46:09,633
send it? I do

1178
00:46:09,633 --> 00:46:10,449
n't believe it. Alright

1179
00:46:10,449 --> 00:46:13,375
. I had a lot going on today.

1180
00:46:13,375 --> 00:46:14,420
No problem.

1181
00:46:14,420 --> 00:46:17,204
But it's a very positive document

1182
00:46:17,204 --> 00:46:19,988
and it's very professionally done,

1183
00:46:19,988 --> 00:46:23,471
the state will love it. But it looks

1184
00:46:23,471 --> 00:46:31,420
great. Thank you. He's

1185
00:46:31,420 --> 00:46:34,560
their player. Let me just send it to you.

1186
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,921
Thank you. Thank you. But we're

1187
00:46:37,921 --> 00:46:39,652
starting, we're essentially

1188
00:46:39,652 --> 00:46:41,384
starting over with a lot of the

1189
00:46:41,384 --> 00:46:44,857
work already done. Or at least all the

1190
00:46:44,857 --> 00:46:47,175
preliminary work is done and now we just

1191
00:46:47,175 --> 00:46:49,554
have to put it on the portal in a

1192
00:46:49,554 --> 00:46:51,689
format that Devon promised to

1193
00:46:51,689 --> 00:46:54,365
help us with. Devon has promised to help us

1194
00:46:54,365 --> 00:46:54,950
. He

1195
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:55,569
himself.

1196
00:46:55,569 --> 00:46:58,524
He, uh, he has staff,

1197
00:46:58,524 --> 00:47:00,365
so he's freed up some of his

1198
00:47:00,365 --> 00:47:02,154
own time and he, he has a

1199
00:47:02,154 --> 00:47:03,942
special affection for Fair Haven and

1200
00:47:03,942 --> 00:47:09,321
grew up here. Excellent. Thank you.

1201
00:47:09,321 --> 00:47:10,834
all for your work

1202
00:47:10,834 --> 00:47:12,159
on that. I know it's a

1203
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:15,220
lot.

1204
00:47:15,220 --> 00:47:16,700
The second point was the

1205
00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:18,218
zoning changes for Prospect Street to

1206
00:47:18,218 --> 00:47:19,171
allow mixed use.

1207
00:47:19,171 --> 00:47:22,259
This was much easier. I promise.

1208
00:47:22,259 --> 00:47:24,865
Essentially, what we need is

1209
00:47:24,865 --> 00:47:27,684
a, um, is a, um, public hearing

1210
00:47:27,684 --> 00:47:29,849
of you. The

1211
00:47:29,849 --> 00:47:31,932
planning commission held its

1212
00:47:31,932 --> 00:47:34,394
public hearing recently, but it went missing

1213
00:47:34,394 --> 00:47:36,730
during the transition when

1214
00:47:36,730 --> 00:47:39,047
Joe left and all that. This should have already

1215
00:47:39,047 --> 00:47:42,286
happened. We're changing the

1216
00:47:42,286 --> 00:47:44,596
designation of the first part of

1217
00:47:44,596 --> 00:47:47,163
Prospect Street, where the

1218
00:47:47,163 --> 00:47:49,153
slate mill and all that was, which was

1219
00:47:49,153 --> 00:47:51,440
industrial.

1220
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,233
So we want to change it to mixed use

1221
00:47:53,233 --> 00:47:56,841
. That makes ownership of everyone

1222
00:47:56,841 --> 00:47:59,579
there more viable. You

1223
00:47:59,579 --> 00:48:02,268
know, the only thing they could

1224
00:48:02,268 --> 00:48:04,688
sell their houses for right now would be

1225
00:48:04,688 --> 00:48:06,773
to put a factory in there, and that's

1226
00:48:06,773 --> 00:48:09,797
simply not going to happen there. So

1227
00:48:09,797 --> 00:48:11,832
this is mixed use. It could be

1228
00:48:11,832 --> 00:48:13,971
commercial, it could be residential, it

1229
00:48:13,971 --> 00:48:16,748
just changes it. So what

1230
00:48:16,748 --> 00:48:18,811
we need from you is to

1231
00:48:18,811 --> 00:48:21,425
set, um, you have to make an

1232
00:48:21,425 --> 00:48:23,832
agenda and say that you're going to have a

1233
00:48:23,832 --> 00:48:26,209
public hearing. I think it's 15

1234
00:48:26,209 --> 00:48:27,737
days, so they probably won't be able to do it

1235
00:48:27,737 --> 00:48:29,310
at the next meeting. I

1236
00:48:29,310 --> 00:48:30,759
'm not sure, but I

1237
00:48:30,759 --> 00:48:32,472
should probably check, but I think

1238
00:48:32,472 --> 00:48:36,789
ours is 15. Hour. You're

1239
00:48:36,789 --> 00:48:39,394
not going to believe me. Nobody is going to argue with that

1240
00:48:39,394 --> 00:48:41,557
. You know, if I had 15 minutes before

1241
00:48:41,557 --> 00:48:42,973
my regular meeting, I'd probably

1242
00:48:42,973 --> 00:48:44,493
have enough time. Let's see,

1243
00:48:44,493 --> 00:48:46,281
then it would be within two meetings

1244
00:48:46,281 --> 00:48:46,427
.

1245
00:48:46,427 --> 00:48:48,172
Yes, that works for some people. And

1246
00:48:48,172 --> 00:48:49,448
were there four plots of land?

1247
00:48:49,448 --> 00:48:51,218
Four. Essentially, there are four

1248
00:48:51,218 --> 00:48:53,497
plots. Yes, that change. But it

1249
00:48:53,497 --> 00:48:55,568
simply makes that area

1250
00:48:55,568 --> 00:48:58,311
much more viable. You know, I'm pretty

1251
00:48:58,311 --> 00:49:01,134
sure we're not going to get another

1252
00:49:01,134 --> 00:49:06,202
GE stuck in there, you know. So, which

1253
00:49:06,202 --> 00:49:07,712
is probably a good thing,

1254
00:49:07,712 --> 00:49:08,779
actually.

1255
00:49:08,779 --> 00:49:13,164
But, um, that's what this is all about. And I think I

1256
00:49:13,164 --> 00:49:15,649
sent them, I know I sent them

1257
00:49:15,649 --> 00:49:18,010
a copy of what he has to say and

1258
00:49:18,010 --> 00:49:21,460
all that kind of stuff.

1259
00:49:21,460 --> 00:49:25,286
Um, and it should be a piece of cake. I can't

1260
00:49:25,286 --> 00:49:27,340
imagine anyone arguing about that. It

1261
00:49:27,340 --> 00:49:29,332
makes that property much more

1262
00:49:29,332 --> 00:49:30,120
viable. They did

1263
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,599
n't argue at our meeting.

1264
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:34,109
No, we didn't have anyone. So

1265
00:49:34,109 --> 00:49:35,939
I suspect they'll be safe.

1266
00:49:35,939 --> 00:49:38,721
They were silent.

1267
00:49:38,721 --> 00:49:40,220
Next question.

1268
00:49:40,220 --> 00:49:41,475
However, we have to do it 15 days in advance

1269
00:49:41,475 --> 00:49:41,880
. I think so

1270
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,473
.

1271
00:49:43,473 --> 00:49:45,865
They have to publish. Yes. It

1272
00:49:45,865 --> 00:49:47,815
's a public hearing.

1273
00:49:47,815 --> 00:49:48,769
So that probably,

1274
00:49:48,769 --> 00:49:49,688
we're probably...

1275
00:49:49,688 --> 00:49:51,455
15 days wouldn't work then. Uh-huh

1276
00:49:51,455 --> 00:49:51,650
. We

1277
00:49:51,650 --> 00:49:52,969
probably won't achieve it at the

1278
00:49:52,969 --> 00:49:54,630
next meeting. But you know, if you

1279
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:56,360
publish it between now and then,

1280
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,360
we'd have a meeting after

1281
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,179
that. Probably.

1282
00:50:00,179 --> 00:50:01,798
They would celebrate it on a

1283
00:50:01,798 --> 00:50:02,759
regular meeting night.

1284
00:50:02,759 --> 00:50:05,312
Yes. 15 minutes earlier.

1285
00:50:05,312 --> 00:50:07,628
Yes, that's it. It's, it's, it's something quite

1286
00:50:07,628 --> 00:50:10,499
simple. Mhm.

1287
00:50:10,499 --> 00:50:14,162
And then we will have the next step,

1288
00:50:14,162 --> 00:50:18,023
once it is reviewed and you

1289
00:50:18,023 --> 00:50:21,983
agree with that change, the next

1290
00:50:21,983 --> 00:50:25,944
step will be to deliver a

1291
00:50:25,944 --> 00:50:29,706
zoning regulation that everyone has in their

1292
00:50:29,706 --> 00:50:33,369
hands, which has been a

1293
00:50:33,369 --> 00:50:38,620
three-year process. Okay, but we'll have something that

1294
00:50:38,620 --> 00:50:41,190
includes all the changes of the

1295
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:45,027
last few years. The historic district,

1296
00:50:45,027 --> 00:50:47,320
the subdivision rules, all of that

1297
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,489
will be there, plus a

1298
00:50:49,489 --> 00:50:51,782
clean copy of everything we've changed

1299
00:50:51,782 --> 00:50:54,810
over the past 3 years. So it

1300
00:50:54,810 --> 00:50:58,943
will be good to have it. That's all. That

1301
00:50:58,943 --> 00:51:04,995
seems fine to me. Thank you. Ask. Here

1302
00:51:04,995 --> 00:51:10,770
's the best part of this. As

1303
00:51:10,770 --> 00:51:14,679
they say in French, au revoir.

1304
00:51:14,679 --> 00:51:17,402
Very good. The next point is the

1305
00:51:17,402 --> 00:51:20,699
MERP grant.

1306
00:51:20,699 --> 00:51:23,133
As I said before, we need to

1307
00:51:23,133 --> 00:51:26,879
try to move forward with this quickly.

1308
00:51:26,879 --> 00:51:29,886
Bill and I worked hard to

1309
00:51:29,886 --> 00:51:33,237
get more than one quote for

1310
00:51:33,237 --> 00:51:36,899
building an ADA ramp. We

1311
00:51:36,899 --> 00:51:38,940
are going to change, you already

1312
00:51:38,940 --> 00:51:41,356
approved it, the change of the door.

1313
00:51:41,356 --> 00:51:43,068
We are going to install an ADA door. It will

1314
00:51:43,068 --> 00:51:45,285
open to the other side. Then

1315
00:51:45,285 --> 00:51:47,670
we will have the porch with a ramp so

1316
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:49,871
that people in wheelchairs

1317
00:51:49,871 --> 00:51:51,888
can access the

1318
00:51:51,888 --> 00:51:55,543
police station. There are approximately six

1319
00:51:55,543 --> 00:51:58,408
of what remains of MERP, out of the 83 or 86

1320
00:51:58,408 --> 00:52:02,635
thousand dollars. $63,000 of that

1321
00:52:02,635 --> 00:52:05,037
could be used for this entire project

1322
00:52:05,037 --> 00:52:07,161
. That's approximately $20,000

1323
00:52:07,161 --> 00:52:08,972
for the Royal Glass door we already

1324
00:52:08,972 --> 00:52:11,360
mentioned. This price reached

1325
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:16,413
$18,650. So we'll be well

1326
00:52:16,413 --> 00:52:19,053
within our funds to be

1327
00:52:19,053 --> 00:52:21,993
able to complete this. So I would

1328
00:52:21,993 --> 00:52:25,054
ask you to discuss it, approve it, or

1329
00:52:25,054 --> 00:52:26,469
ask questions. I

1330
00:52:26,469 --> 00:52:29,175
have a question; I'm not opposed to

1331
00:52:29,175 --> 00:52:31,611
aluminum in any way, but I was

1332
00:52:31,611 --> 00:52:34,183
wondering if Cavino was asked

1333
00:52:34,183 --> 00:52:36,686
about using something like Trex in the

1334
00:52:36,686 --> 00:52:39,122
construction of the platform and

1335
00:52:39,122 --> 00:52:42,579
ramp. I do

1336
00:52:42,579 --> 00:52:44,770
n't know, I think the platform itself

1337
00:52:44,770 --> 00:52:47,077
was going to be pressure-treated wood,

1338
00:52:47,077 --> 00:52:49,326
but I think only that landing is going to be

1339
00:52:49,326 --> 00:52:59,639
... Ah, the 5x5 aluminum landing. I mean

1340
00:52:59,639 --> 00:53:00,800
, we can

1341
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,215
quickly ask about Trex to see what

1342
00:53:02,215 --> 00:53:03,759
the cost difference is.

1343
00:53:03,759 --> 00:53:06,623
As discussed. So, that's

1344
00:53:06,623 --> 00:53:09,880
pressure treatment, you said?

1345
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,020
The porch itself is pressure treated.

1346
00:53:12,020 --> 00:53:12,619
Yes.

1347
00:53:12,619 --> 00:53:15,751
Okay. I understand, to build a

1348
00:53:15,751 --> 00:53:19,980
pressure-treated landing. OK.

1349
00:53:19,980 --> 00:53:22,169
There's a plane they based it on, and

1350
00:53:22,169 --> 00:53:24,358
we were thinking of moving it to

1351
00:53:24,358 --> 00:53:26,608
center it more and make it visually

1352
00:53:26,608 --> 00:53:29,419
more appealing than having it off-center.

1353
00:53:29,419 --> 00:53:31,335
So the whole porch would be moved

1354
00:53:31,335 --> 00:53:33,464
to be centered with the main one and

1355
00:53:33,464 --> 00:53:35,540
then the ramp would come out, but it wouldn't

1356
00:53:35,540 --> 00:53:36,921
look like it does now.

1357
00:53:36,921 --> 00:53:38,357
And what would happen first, the

1358
00:53:38,357 --> 00:53:39,999
construction of the landing or the

1359
00:53:39,999 --> 00:53:42,280
replacement of the door? Well, the

1360
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,014
door materials have already been

1361
00:53:44,014 --> 00:53:45,580
ordered, so I don't know.

1362
00:53:45,580 --> 00:53:48,139
And you are going to sign to pay the

1363
00:53:48,139 --> 00:53:52,232
first 50%. In fact, they were here

1364
00:53:52,232 --> 00:53:54,541
yesterday. Royal Glass was looking,

1365
00:53:54,541 --> 00:53:56,690
checking the direction of the door

1366
00:53:56,690 --> 00:54:00,019
and what we were going to do with the porch.

1367
00:54:00,019 --> 00:54:01,604
But we think the door

1368
00:54:01,604 --> 00:54:03,835
should probably go first, since they're going to be

1369
00:54:03,835 --> 00:54:06,124
changing a lot of parts there,

1370
00:54:06,124 --> 00:54:08,297
rather than having to move something from the

1371
00:54:08,297 --> 00:54:10,117
porch once

1372
00:54:10,117 --> 00:54:12,219
construction starts.

1373
00:54:12,219 --> 00:54:13,584
And that has already been discussed with Coino

1374
00:54:13,584 --> 00:54:15,105
as well, that the new door is on its

1375
00:54:15,105 --> 00:54:17,988
way. Alright. And as I said, once

1376
00:54:17,988 --> 00:54:20,199
we have a signed contract,

1377
00:54:20,199 --> 00:54:23,669
we have until December 31st. And

1378
00:54:23,669 --> 00:54:25,632
in fact, it seems the state

1379
00:54:25,632 --> 00:54:27,596
is even willing to extend

1380
00:54:27,596 --> 00:54:30,820
the deadline a little on that part. They seemed flexible

1381
00:54:30,820 --> 00:54:33,063
regarding the end of the year, just not

1382
00:54:33,063 --> 00:54:34,801
this September 30th for

1383
00:54:34,801 --> 00:54:37,560
contracts suddenly. Okay then

1384
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:42,220
. OK. Oh, and just to

1385
00:54:42,220 --> 00:54:44,693
recap, we tried to get other

1386
00:54:44,693 --> 00:54:46,920
quotes.

1387
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,935
Yes. So, you can see that this is

1388
00:54:48,935 --> 00:54:50,786
from August. This is dated

1389
00:54:50,786 --> 00:54:52,746
August 25th. We've had this for a while

1390
00:54:52,746 --> 00:54:54,179
. We've

1391
00:54:54,179 --> 00:54:56,131
called, texted, and

1392
00:54:56,131 --> 00:54:59,679
asked everyone we know. Does

1393
00:54:59,679 --> 00:55:03,210
this Cabino LLC have any

1394
00:55:03,210 --> 00:55:05,095
connection to the police officer

1395
00:55:05,095 --> 00:55:06,679
who works for us?

1396
00:55:06,679 --> 00:55:08,095
He is the brother of the Jehovah's Witness who also

1397
00:55:08,095 --> 00:55:09,900
works here. Brother, that's why

1398
00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:12,500
I asked for clarity, so we would have it, so

1399
00:55:12,819 --> 00:55:15,619
this is okay for

1400
00:55:15,619 --> 00:55:17,803
no conflict, it's fine, I just

1401
00:55:17,803 --> 00:55:19,987
want to make sure I don't cross any

1402
00:55:19,987 --> 00:55:20,519
lines.

1403
00:55:20,519 --> 00:55:21,674
I think at one point Mr. Go

1404
00:55:21,674 --> 00:55:26,179
was also looking for people. I

1405
00:55:26,179 --> 00:55:27,562
just want to make sure I don't cross

1406
00:55:27,562 --> 00:55:28,579
any lines. We've been

1407
00:55:28,579 --> 00:55:29,984
trying to do this

1408
00:55:29,984 --> 00:55:31,389
since, when did you, Mr.

1409
00:55:31,389 --> 00:55:32,794
agreeing, start trying to achieve that a

1410
00:55:32,794 --> 00:55:34,539
few years ago? We

1411
00:55:34,539 --> 00:55:36,095
simply haven't been able to find

1412
00:55:36,095 --> 00:55:37,652
a contractor since we got the

1413
00:55:37,652 --> 00:55:38,159
money.

1414
00:55:38,159 --> 00:55:42,973
Yes, you mentioned it.

1415
00:55:42,973 --> 00:55:45,184
No, good question. Excellent question.

1416
00:55:45,184 --> 00:55:46,031
Absolutely.

1417
00:55:46,031 --> 00:55:48,109
Given the difficulty in finding

1418
00:55:48,109 --> 00:55:50,819
someone to quote this job. I hate to

1419
00:55:50,819 --> 00:55:52,379
be picky about the budget

1420
00:55:52,379 --> 00:55:53,979
itself, but I hate when a budget

1421
00:55:53,979 --> 00:55:56,622
is not broken down. Um, is there a

1422
00:55:56,622 --> 00:55:58,605
version of this provided by

1423
00:55:58,605 --> 00:56:01,005
Camino that was broken down? No. And to

1424
00:56:01,005 --> 00:56:03,185
be honest, having worked in the

1425
00:56:03,185 --> 00:56:05,255
construction industry, that's not

1426
00:56:05,255 --> 00:56:09,279
something you see very often.

1427
00:56:09,279 --> 00:56:10,939
Yes.

1428
00:56:10,939 --> 00:56:12,895
Because much of their work is based

1429
00:56:12,895 --> 00:56:14,803
on their estimates of the project

1430
00:56:14,803 --> 00:56:16,760
timeline, and because labor is

1431
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,912
a significant part of it. So

1432
00:56:19,912 --> 00:56:25,179
they estimate a certain part and

1433
00:56:25,179 --> 00:56:27,528
most construction companies

1434
00:56:27,528 --> 00:56:29,756
won't break that down, because then

1435
00:56:29,756 --> 00:56:32,105
you'd say, "You said it would take 5 days

1436
00:56:32,105 --> 00:56:34,514
of 8 hours and I saw that they were only there for 3 and a

1437
00:56:34,514 --> 00:56:37,181
half," or something like that. So

1438
00:56:37,181 --> 00:56:38,259
no, I,

1439
00:56:38,259 --> 00:56:41,061
the breakdown, unfortunately,

1440
00:56:41,061 --> 00:56:42,839
is not something common.

1441
00:56:42,839 --> 00:56:44,130
The only thing I think we

1442
00:56:44,130 --> 00:56:45,866
should talk to them about, Terry,

1443
00:56:45,866 --> 00:56:47,558
that I haven't discussed yet, is the

1444
00:56:47,558 --> 00:56:49,161
actual cost there; I think it could be a

1445
00:56:49,161 --> 00:56:50,763
little lower, it's the removal one,

1446
00:56:50,763 --> 00:56:52,233
because our DPW can remove

1447
00:56:52,233 --> 00:56:54,299
any debris.

1448
00:56:54,299 --> 00:56:55,421
Put it on a dump truck and

1449
00:56:55,421 --> 00:56:56,676
take it away, so they wouldn't have to

1450
00:56:56,676 --> 00:56:59,407
do that. So I was hoping, you

1451
00:56:59,407 --> 00:57:00,944
know, that it might be a little less,

1452
00:57:00,944 --> 00:57:02,623
but we haven't had that conversation.

1453
00:57:02,623 --> 00:57:04,025
And as I said, we were expecting to

1454
00:57:04,025 --> 00:57:05,405
get other things and nothing. We

1455
00:57:05,405 --> 00:57:10,110
had nothing to compare it to. This

1456
00:57:10,110 --> 00:57:12,619
price is one month old. Yeah

1457
00:57:12,619 --> 00:57:17,170
. So I will accept a motion to

1458
00:57:17,170 --> 00:57:22,021
accept this offer. I will introduce a

1459
00:57:22,021 --> 00:57:26,139
motion to accept the offer for up

1460
00:57:26,139 --> 00:57:30,879
to the project amount of $

1461
00:57:30,879 --> 00:57:35,259
18,650. That sounds good?

1462
00:57:35,259 --> 00:57:36,979
No, I would say don't exceed it.

1463
00:57:36,979 --> 00:57:42,384
That does not exceed $18,650.

1464
00:57:42,384 --> 00:57:47,149
Is it $650 or $50? I heard 15. I

1465
00:57:47,149 --> 00:57:48,500
believe him. I

1466
00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:51,619
wrote it wrong. No, no problem.

1467
00:57:51,619 --> 00:57:54,229
And that's for the replacement of the ramp and

1468
00:57:54,229 --> 00:57:56,839
rest area, to be carried out by Cavino

1469
00:57:56,839 --> 00:57:57,919
LLC.

1470
00:57:57,919 --> 00:58:01,539
Yes, what you said.

1471
00:58:01,539 --> 00:58:04,332
I support the motion. Any further

1472
00:58:04,332 --> 00:58:06,479
discussion?

1473
00:58:06,479 --> 00:58:13,020
Everyone who is in favor.

1474
00:58:13,020 --> 00:58:17,199
Thank you.

1475
00:58:17,199 --> 00:58:22,273
Of course. Very good. 2 minutes. One

1476
00:58:22,273 --> 00:58:24,434
comment. I

1477
00:58:24,434 --> 00:58:26,037
have no comment. I have a

1478
00:58:26,037 --> 00:58:27,287
question.

1479
00:58:27,287 --> 00:58:28,920
Why is the

1480
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,648
dog park gate closed? I went to the

1481
00:58:32,648 --> 00:58:35,907
dog park for the first time the other day and

1482
00:58:35,907 --> 00:58:38,994
thought it was closed because the

1483
00:58:38,994 --> 00:58:43,131
door was locked.

1484
00:58:43,131 --> 00:58:44,942
Isn't the gate somehow connected

1485
00:58:44,942 --> 00:58:46,752
to the village garage or something

1486
00:58:46,752 --> 00:58:49,528
? And I'm going to look for an aerial map of the

1487
00:58:49,528 --> 00:58:51,314
area while we talk. So, please excuse me

1488
00:58:51,314 --> 00:58:51,959
.

1489
00:58:51,959 --> 00:58:54,720
I had to contact Linda.

1490
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,169
I had the impression that

1491
00:58:57,169 --> 00:58:59,890
we discussed this a while ago and someone came and

1492
00:58:59,890 --> 00:59:02,407
said something about closing the door for

1493
00:59:02,407 --> 00:59:04,984
some reason. But that was the door

1494
00:59:04,984 --> 00:59:06,179
that leads outwards.

1495
00:59:06,179 --> 00:59:07,759
That's the entrance to the runway. Alright

1496
00:59:07,759 --> 00:59:10,167
. I knew there was another

1497
00:59:10,167 --> 00:59:12,756
door leading in, but you have to go

1498
00:59:12,756 --> 00:59:15,345
through that door to get into the

1499
00:59:15,345 --> 00:59:17,805
dog park. You proved it was the

1500
00:59:17,805 --> 00:59:20,836
wrong house. I'm sorry. You can walk through it.

1501
00:59:21,060 --> 00:59:22,729
Yes, that's what I did. But I didn't

1502
00:59:22,729 --> 00:59:24,479
know because I had never been there; the

1503
00:59:24,479 --> 00:59:26,429
dog park gate

1504
00:59:26,429 --> 00:59:27,919
was also closed.

1505
00:59:27,919 --> 00:59:31,742
No, I was able to enter the dog park.

1506
00:59:31,742 --> 00:59:33,160
The other door is closed.

1507
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,770
But with the other gate, I thought, "

1508
00:59:35,770 --> 00:59:37,412
Wow, am I supposed to go through

1509
00:59:37,412 --> 00:59:39,346
here? Am I supposed to go around it?

1510
00:59:39,346 --> 00:59:41,981
Should I or shouldn't I? Is there a camera

1511
00:59:41,981 --> 00:59:43,770
somewhere, and the boss is going to come

1512
00:59:43,770 --> 00:59:45,875
flying in, and my poor Delelfie and I are going to go

1513
00:59:45,875 --> 00:59:47,354
to jail?"

1514
00:59:47,354 --> 00:59:49,743
I think the gate in the road is just there

1515
00:59:49,743 --> 00:59:51,893
because people come up, back their

1516
00:59:51,893 --> 00:59:54,000
trucks out, and trash the field. So

1517
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:54,224
,

1518
00:59:54,224 --> 00:59:57,725
if you park in that

1519
00:59:57,725 --> 00:59:59,182
parking area, you just walk in, and

1520
00:59:59,182 --> 01:00:00,627
you can get into the dog park.

1521
01:00:00,627 --> 01:00:02,334
Yeah. That's what I did. And the

1522
01:00:02,334 --> 01:00:04,012
Linda family told me that. I contacted Linda

1523
01:00:04,012 --> 01:00:05,550
because I was thinking, "Is the

1524
01:00:05,550 --> 01:00:06,101
park open? Is

1525
01:00:06,101 --> 01:00:08,777
it closed? Is it?" "Because I'd never

1526
01:00:08,777 --> 01:00:13,553
been to the people. If you talk to

1527
01:00:13,553 --> 01:00:14,943
people, just share that. Yeah, it

1528
01:00:14,943 --> 01:00:17,373
's definitely open. But yeah

1529
01:00:17,373 --> 01:00:19,439
, especially when it gets wet,

1530
01:00:19,439 --> 01:00:21,559
people like to go out of their way and into the

1531
01:00:21,559 --> 01:00:23,530
middle of the airport.

1532
01:00:23,530 --> 01:00:25,261
Yeah, I couldn't understand that. I was

1533
01:00:25,261 --> 01:00:26,819
like, what? Why?

1534
01:00:26,819 --> 01:00:28,151
Sorry, you there. I

1535
01:00:28,151 --> 01:00:35,159
was totally confused.

1536
01:00:35,159 --> 01:00:40,007
Yeah. Well, I have two points. The

1537
01:00:40,007 --> 01:00:43,847
first, um, just so everyone is aware

1538
01:00:43,847 --> 01:00:47,513
, um, and I already posted this.

1539
01:00:47,513 --> 01:00:49,618
So, the fundraiser

1540
01:00:49,618 --> 01:00:51,840
for the people at the

1541
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,536
Wherever State Apartments has

1542
01:00:53,536 --> 01:00:55,875
officially closed, and thanks to all the

1543
01:00:55,875 --> 01:00:58,039
generous people, we raised a total of

1544
01:00:58,039 --> 01:01:02,255
$743. A very

1545
01:01:02,255 --> 01:01:03,999
special thanks to the businesses that supported

1546
01:01:03,999 --> 01:01:06,578
this effort: The Wooden Soldier, Fair

1547
01:01:06,578 --> 01:01:09,343
Haven Pizza House, Cloud9 Dispensary,

1548
01:01:09,343 --> 01:01:11,744
Luminous Beauty Salon, and Abashons

1549
01:01:11,744 --> 01:01:14,528
Hardware. I also want to thank Jasmine

1550
01:01:14,528 --> 01:01:16,397
Derky of Slate Valley Cares, who

1551
01:01:16,397 --> 01:01:17,839
helped immensely with

1552
01:01:17,839 --> 01:01:19,975
coordinating this effort, and that

1553
01:01:19,975 --> 01:01:21,950
very special lady from the Red Cross

1554
01:01:21,950 --> 01:01:25,639
who asked to remain anonymous.

1555
01:01:25,639 --> 01:01:28,314
Um, I'll ask for..." New to anyone who

1556
01:01:28,314 --> 01:01:30,920
knows people who lived there and have

1557
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,737
n't yet

1558
01:01:33,737 --> 01:01:36,413
contacted Slate Valley Cares, please

1559
01:01:36,413 --> 01:01:39,853
contact them. Um, the

1560
01:01:39,853 --> 01:01:45,077
phone number is 265-3666. Um, so they

1561
01:01:45,077 --> 01:01:47,402
can, you know, and they'll provide

1562
01:01:47,402 --> 01:01:50,373
assistance to those people. Um, so

1563
01:01:50,373 --> 01:01:52,272
if you know anyone, please

1564
01:01:52,272 --> 01:01:55,635
tell them to contact them. Um, that's

1565
01:01:55,635 --> 01:01:59,367
number one. The other thing is, I've had

1566
01:01:59,367 --> 01:02:01,598
people talking to me

1567
01:02:01,598 --> 01:02:07,499
about the memorial plaques.

1568
01:02:07,499 --> 01:02:10,254
When the trees were planted

1569
01:02:10,254 --> 01:02:14,406
downtown, um, one of the ways they

1570
01:02:14,406 --> 01:02:16,384
raised money for that,

1571
01:02:16,384 --> 01:02:19,299
they had people buy

1572
01:02:19,299 --> 01:02:21,630
memorial plaques in memory of so-and-so or so-and-so

1573
01:02:21,630 --> 01:02:23,903
or whatever to put

1574
01:02:23,903 --> 01:02:25,802
around the trees.

1575
01:02:25,802 --> 01:02:26,957
Well, now that the trees are

1576
01:02:26,957 --> 01:02:28,760
practically gone,

1577
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,566
um, people are just walking

1578
01:02:31,566 --> 01:02:33,807
right on the plaques. They're

1579
01:02:33,807 --> 01:02:36,073
breaking, and the people who

1580
01:02:36,073 --> 01:02:38,086
bought those plaques are getting

1581
01:02:38,086 --> 01:02:43,495
upset. Um, I talked to Joe about

1582
01:02:43,495 --> 01:02:46,141
this a while ago, but I

1583
01:02:46,141 --> 01:02:53,420
never really got a response. Um, a

1584
01:02:53,420 --> 01:02:56,169
People would really like to see if

1585
01:02:56,169 --> 01:02:58,706
those plaques can be lifted and

1586
01:02:58,706 --> 01:03:01,383
put somewhere else where they won't be

1587
01:03:01,383 --> 01:03:06,136
destroyed. Um, I asked Joe if there was

1588
01:03:06,136 --> 01:03:08,767
a way to put them

1589
01:03:08,767 --> 01:03:11,810
around the fountain in the park,

1590
01:03:11,810 --> 01:03:15,016
like that piece, the big piece that goes

1591
01:03:15,016 --> 01:03:17,971
around it. Not where the mulch is,

1592
01:03:17,971 --> 01:03:19,840
because people walk right

1593
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,279
on that,

1594
01:03:21,279 --> 01:03:25,149
but either to the sides or maybe on

1595
01:03:25,149 --> 01:03:29,690
top of it. Um, just

1596
01:03:29,690 --> 01:03:31,865
somewhere where they won't be

1597
01:03:31,865 --> 01:03:36,956
destroyed. I realize it's late

1598
01:03:36,956 --> 01:03:39,891
in the year, so it's not something that

1599
01:03:39,891 --> 01:03:42,826
can be done right away, but maybe

1600
01:03:42,826 --> 01:03:45,460
you guys can, you know, put your

1601
01:03:45,460 --> 01:03:48,320
minds together and think of a solution for

1602
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,895
the spring.

1603
01:03:51,895 --> 01:03:55,728
And these were sold

1604
01:03:55,728 --> 01:03:57,720
to raise money for the trees?

1605
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:58,239
Yes.

1606
01:03:58,239 --> 01:04:00,339
Okay. There are quite a few.

1607
01:04:00,339 --> 01:04:02,483
The understanding was that the trees were going to be

1608
01:04:02,483 --> 01:04:04,379
there

1609
01:04:04,379 --> 01:04:06,859
forever.

1610
01:04:06,859 --> 01:04:07,399
Yes.

1611
01:04:07,399 --> 01:04:11,835
Um, sort of. Um, and you know, I've had

1612
01:04:11,835 --> 01:04:15,537
people—and you can see if you walk around

1613
01:04:15,537 --> 01:04:19,146
there—several of them have cracked

1614
01:04:19,146 --> 01:04:20,199
.

1615
01:04:20,199 --> 01:04:20,699
Mmm.

1616
01:04:20,699 --> 01:04:24,218
Um, chipping at the sides. Uh,

1617
01:04:24,218 --> 01:04:26,988
when the trees were There,

1618
01:04:26,988 --> 01:04:29,758
people weren't walking on them because

1619
01:04:29,758 --> 01:04:32,459
they were walking around the tree.

1620
01:04:32,459 --> 01:04:33,259
Yes.

1621
01:04:33,259 --> 01:04:35,178
So, but now that the trees are gone

1622
01:04:35,178 --> 01:04:37,198
, people aren't paying attention

1623
01:04:37,198 --> 01:04:39,168
and are just walking right on them

1624
01:04:39,168 --> 01:04:39,339
.

1625
01:04:39,339 --> 01:04:42,249
I think the starting point is

1626
01:04:42,249 --> 01:04:45,886
probably to ask Nate if there's a

1627
01:04:45,886 --> 01:04:48,796
chance of digging them up and

1628
01:04:48,796 --> 01:04:52,685
preserving them in the process. And then from

1629
01:04:52,685 --> 01:04:55,285
there, it's decision-making. I do

1630
01:04:55,285 --> 01:04:56,982
n't know much about the physics of this.

1631
01:04:56,982 --> 01:05:00,451
I figured between Mr. Greeno and,

1632
01:05:00,451 --> 01:05:03,830
uh, Dennis, you guys might be able to work

1633
01:05:03,830 --> 01:05:04,466
something out.

1634
01:05:04,466 --> 01:05:06,406
Yes. So maybe we'll talk to Nate

1635
01:05:06,406 --> 01:05:07,481
to see what's possible.

1636
01:05:07,481 --> 01:05:09,203
Yes. What I said is

1637
01:05:09,203 --> 01:05:12,170
probably the same as Ros, like,

1638
01:05:12,170 --> 01:05:14,610
probably in the spring, review it, I mean,

1639
01:05:14,610 --> 01:05:16,925
have the conversation

1640
01:05:16,925 --> 01:05:19,177
now, see what we can do, but

1641
01:05:19,177 --> 01:05:21,430
possibly wait until spring

1642
01:05:21,430 --> 01:05:23,808
because we'd like to do something with the

1643
01:05:23,808 --> 01:05:25,872
sidewalk there, and we want it to be

1644
01:05:25,872 --> 01:05:28,313
warm enough for it to set properly and

1645
01:05:28,313 --> 01:05:30,315
settle, because they have

1646
01:05:30,315 --> 01:05:32,230
quite a bit of work right now. We do

1647
01:05:32,230 --> 01:05:33,638
n't want huge holes in our

1648
01:05:33,638 --> 01:05:35,739
sidewalks right before winter. It's

1649
01:05:35,739 --> 01:05:37,109
probably not good for the

1650
01:05:37,109 --> 01:05:38,597
sidewalk cleaning machine or for

1651
01:05:38,597 --> 01:05:40,999
people's safety.

1652
01:05:40,999 --> 01:05:43,060
Believe me, I know Okay, I understand those

1653
01:05:43,060 --> 01:05:45,203
little trenches.

1654
01:05:45,203 --> 01:05:48,578
Sure. Sure. So, yeah, thanks

1655
01:05:48,578 --> 01:05:50,120
for mentioning that.

1656
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,904
One possibility would be maybe to think

1657
01:05:53,904 --> 01:05:55,812
about planters.

1658
01:05:55,812 --> 01:05:56,910
That's what I was thinking.

1659
01:05:56,910 --> 01:05:58,442
The place where the trees are,

1660
01:05:58,442 --> 01:05:59,767
the planters we have.

1661
01:05:59,767 --> 01:06:01,222
Great idea. Maybe. That's

1662
01:06:01,222 --> 01:06:02,198
a great idea.

1663
01:06:02,198 --> 01:06:03,960
Trees. Trees are a bad

1664
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,809
idea because there are power lines running all the way around

1665
01:06:05,809 --> 01:06:08,188
that spot. You don't plant

1666
01:06:08,188 --> 01:06:10,431
trees under power lines

1667
01:06:10,431 --> 01:06:12,819
expecting them to last a long time.

1668
01:06:12,819 --> 01:06:13,260
Mhm.

1669
01:06:13,260 --> 01:06:14,434
I mean, come on.

1670
01:06:14,434 --> 01:06:14,933
Yeah.

1671
01:06:14,933 --> 01:06:15,312
Mhm.

1672
01:06:15,312 --> 01:06:15,980
So, it

1673
01:06:15,980 --> 01:06:18,019
wasn't my idea. I'm

1674
01:06:18,019 --> 01:06:19,019
just saying.

1675
01:06:19,019 --> 01:06:19,600
Yeah.

1676
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,960
That could be an idea. I do

1677
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,184
n't know. We could take some of the

1678
01:06:25,184 --> 01:06:28,220
flowers from Fair Haven,

1679
01:06:28,220 --> 01:06:30,315
big planters, and put them in the

1680
01:06:30,315 --> 01:06:32,657
middle where the trees were, if

1681
01:06:32,657 --> 01:06:34,519
someone could level it.

1682
01:06:34,519 --> 01:06:39,020
Yeah.

1683
01:06:39,020 --> 01:06:40,843
They would have to be more

1684
01:06:40,843 --> 01:06:42,823
permanent structures, they would have to be maybe

1685
01:06:42,823 --> 01:06:44,239
...

1686
01:06:44,239 --> 01:06:45,923
A concrete planter would be pretty

1687
01:06:45,923 --> 01:06:48,775
permanent. Like the ones she was talking about,

1688
01:06:48,775 --> 01:06:51,499
those black ones they had outside.

1689
01:06:51,499 --> 01:06:53,167
They would be easier for

1690
01:06:53,167 --> 01:06:55,281
sidewalk maintenance in the winter

1691
01:06:55,281 --> 01:06:57,159
if they were movable.

1692
01:06:57,159 --> 01:06:57,619
Mhm.

1693
01:06:57,619 --> 01:06:59,317
Yeah. But then you'd be

1694
01:06:59,317 --> 01:07:00,915
shoveling over them and Destroying them. That's

1695
01:07:00,915 --> 01:07:04,670
true.

1696
01:07:04,670 --> 01:07:06,633
And see, yes. Where we are now. That's

1697
01:07:06,633 --> 01:07:07,410
fine by me. I

1698
01:07:07,410 --> 01:07:09,182
just wanted to bring it to your attention so

1699
01:07:09,182 --> 01:07:10,815
maybe something can be done in the

1700
01:07:10,815 --> 01:07:11,382
spring.

1701
01:07:11,382 --> 01:07:16,360
Thank you. Thank you. Uh, parking.

1702
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,539
I have a comment. I

1703
01:07:19,539 --> 01:07:21,816
was paying very close attention to

1704
01:07:21,816 --> 01:07:25,894
Carrie and Mike when they were talking.

1705
01:07:25,894 --> 01:07:28,305
People complain about the price of water and

1706
01:07:28,305 --> 01:07:30,521
sewer, and I'm not

1707
01:07:30,521 --> 01:07:33,909
affected by either. Keep that in mind. I do

1708
01:07:33,909 --> 01:07:36,534
n't think anyone understands the kind of

1709
01:07:36,534 --> 01:07:39,020
work these people do. M.

1710
01:07:39,020 --> 01:07:41,068
I think they go to the plant in the morning

1711
01:07:41,068 --> 01:07:43,019
and sit and...

1712
01:07:43,019 --> 01:07:45,058
see how it works and hope it doesn't break

1713
01:07:45,058 --> 01:07:46,042
down.

1714
01:07:46,042 --> 01:07:48,935
Yes, there's a huge amount. Did

1715
01:07:48,935 --> 01:07:50,869
you notice what that girl is doing

1716
01:07:50,869 --> 01:07:52,519
?

1717
01:07:52,519 --> 01:07:56,619
I mean, she's not a child, but...

1718
01:07:56,619 --> 01:08:00,959
to me she is.

1719
01:08:00,959 --> 01:08:03,081
But I'm glad, I'm glad you

1720
01:08:03,081 --> 01:08:05,380
said that her great knowledge is good

1721
01:08:05,380 --> 01:08:05,599
.

1722
01:08:05,599 --> 01:08:07,560
What these people are doing.

1723
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,619
Yes. They're out on the street finding

1724
01:08:10,619 --> 01:08:13,355
potholes and things to fix, and all they

1725
01:08:13,355 --> 01:08:15,660
get are complaints

1726
01:08:15,660 --> 01:08:18,000
while the debris piles up.

1727
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,049
Yes.

1728
01:08:19,049 --> 01:08:21,819
Literally and metaphorically. And

1729
01:08:21,819 --> 01:08:24,333
but they... they find it And they take

1730
01:08:24,333 --> 01:08:26,009
care of it.

1731
01:08:26,009 --> 01:08:29,039
It's just amazing. I mean,

1732
01:08:29,039 --> 01:08:31,264
yeah. And if you go to their plants, well, the

1733
01:08:31,264 --> 01:08:33,049
water is a little different from

1734
01:08:33,049 --> 01:08:34,787
sewage, but I don't know if everyone has

1735
01:08:34,787 --> 01:08:36,619
been to the treatment plant,

1736
01:08:36,619 --> 01:08:38,357
which she's more than happy for

1737
01:08:38,357 --> 01:08:39,861
anyone to come and

1738
01:08:39,861 --> 01:08:42,089
tour. Uh, it's not what you'd

1739
01:08:42,089 --> 01:08:43,880
think of as a

1740
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,818
sewage plant. It's clean. It smells

1741
01:08:46,818 --> 01:08:49,059
clean in most areas. I

1742
01:08:49,059 --> 01:08:50,619
mean,

1743
01:08:51,241 --> 01:08:55,385
outside, but they both take excellent care of their

1744
01:08:55,385 --> 01:08:57,078
plants.

1745
01:08:57,078 --> 01:08:59,519
Exactly. It's swept and clean.

1746
01:08:59,519 --> 01:09:01,599
Everything is tidy and clean and where it should be.

1747
01:09:01,902 --> 01:09:04,192
Yes. Yes. They do an excellent job.

1748
01:09:04,192 --> 01:09:06,502
It's an excellent job. And I just wanted to

1749
01:09:06,502 --> 01:09:06,804
say

1750
01:09:06,804 --> 01:09:08,180
thank you for saying that.

1751
01:09:08,180 --> 01:09:08,579
Yes.

1752
01:09:08,579 --> 01:09:10,199
It's just a

1753
01:09:10,199 --> 01:09:13,340
shitty situation in every sense. I

1754
01:09:13,340 --> 01:09:15,412
mean, did you ever go there and realize what

1755
01:09:15,412 --> 01:09:18,053
was going on?

1756
01:09:18,053 --> 01:09:19,742
Honestly, I don't know. We're going to

1757
01:09:19,742 --> 01:09:22,038
get rid of this. I don't even

1758
01:09:22,038 --> 01:09:23,299
know where the

1759
01:09:23,299 --> 01:09:24,519
water treatment plant is here. Me

1760
01:09:24,519 --> 01:09:25,107
neither. I've

1761
01:09:25,107 --> 01:09:29,098
lived here my whole life. The

1762
01:09:29,485 --> 01:09:30,644
wastewater treatment plant

1763
01:09:30,644 --> 01:09:32,274
is right next to the transfer station, it's

1764
01:09:32,519 --> 01:09:35,779
off the road.

1765
01:09:35,779 --> 01:09:37,540
Yes.

1766
01:09:37,540 --> 01:09:40,899
Just for the record.

1767
01:09:40,899 --> 01:09:43,004
Actually, the elementary school—was it the

1768
01:09:43,004 --> 01:09:44,719
elementary school?—they've

1769
01:09:44,719 --> 01:09:47,140
really been doing

1770
01:09:47,140 --> 01:09:48,239
field trips

1771
01:09:48,239 --> 01:09:49,793
to the sewage treatment plant. They've been

1772
01:09:49,793 --> 01:09:51,880
doing that at least since

1773
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,400
I was born because I went to that same one. I

1774
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,640
just remember my daughter.

1775
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,640
Guess where we went today.

1776
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,220
Yes.

1777
01:10:01,220 --> 01:10:03,841
Peter, Peter did it all those years.

1778
01:10:03,841 --> 01:10:05,480
Sixth graders.

1779
01:10:05,480 --> 01:10:06,139
Yes.

1780
01:10:06,139 --> 01:10:07,279
Good.

1781
01:10:07,279 --> 01:10:08,879
Yes.

1782
01:10:08,879 --> 01:10:10,680
Very good.

1783
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,040
Uh, unfinished business. Thank you

1784
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,600
. Thank you.

1785
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,063
Uh, unfinished business. I wanted to

1786
01:10:18,063 --> 01:10:20,290
briefly mention the

1787
01:10:20,290 --> 01:10:22,778
revised parks and recreation ordinance that

1788
01:10:22,778 --> 01:10:25,287
we discussed several meetings ago. It's

1789
01:10:25,287 --> 01:10:28,012
been almost a month now since

1790
01:10:28,012 --> 01:10:30,662
I submitted that draft to VLCT for

1791
01:10:30,662 --> 01:10:33,122
review. I still haven't received

1792
01:10:33,122 --> 01:10:35,740
a response from them. I should mention

1793
01:10:35,740 --> 01:10:38,577
that I use their courier service—uh,

1794
01:10:38,577 --> 01:10:41,273
their advisory service—at least

1795
01:10:41,273 --> 01:10:43,897
twice a month, and I've never waited this long

1796
01:10:43,897 --> 01:10:46,905
for a response. I've also

1797
01:10:46,905 --> 01:10:48,646
never submitted an ordinance for

1798
01:10:48,646 --> 01:10:51,530
review before. So I guess

1799
01:10:51,530 --> 01:10:53,433
this legal advice takes a little

1800
01:10:53,433 --> 01:10:55,437
longer than the typical response I would

1801
01:10:55,437 --> 01:10:58,964
expect from them. Well, I don't

1802
01:10:58,964 --> 01:11:00,702
take it personally, but I've

1803
01:11:00,702 --> 01:11:02,657
followed up again, asking if

1804
01:11:02,657 --> 01:11:04,829
someone could take a look at it sooner rather

1805
01:11:04,829 --> 01:11:06,730
than later, so we can

1806
01:11:06,730 --> 01:11:08,902
proceed with the public hearing and

1807
01:11:08,902 --> 01:11:11,020
discussion process that would go into

1808
01:11:11,020 --> 01:11:12,867
adopting that new ordinance or that

1809
01:11:12,867 --> 01:11:16,120
revised ordinance. Vermont League of Cities and

1810
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:21,507
Towns. Um, and that's all I

1811
01:11:21,507 --> 01:11:23,819
wanted to say about it.

1812
01:11:23,819 --> 01:11:26,617
Okay. Carrie, any updates

1813
01:11:26,617 --> 01:11:28,344
on the transfer station, the

1814
01:11:28,344 --> 01:11:30,070
computer, the internet, the

1815
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:30,560
card reader,

1816
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,787
camper? Uh, blah, blah, blah. We did

1817
01:11:32,787 --> 01:11:37,379
n't do it, no, wrong word.

1818
01:11:37,379 --> 01:11:38,999
Sorry, it's past my bedtime.

1819
01:11:38,999 --> 01:11:41,887
Um, the computer is on order. Uh,

1820
01:11:41,887 --> 01:11:44,061
they've been working on it. I did

1821
01:11:44,061 --> 01:11:45,638
some updates on your

1822
01:11:45,638 --> 01:11:47,635
computer because it stopped working

1823
01:11:47,635 --> 01:11:49,715
again and stopped printing. So,

1824
01:11:49,715 --> 01:11:51,905
I managed to get it working again. I haven't heard

1825
01:11:51,905 --> 01:11:54,514
back about the

1826
01:11:54,514 --> 01:11:56,847
card reader. So, I'll

1827
01:11:56,847 --> 01:11:58,660
follow up and, honestly, I'll be

1828
01:11:58,660 --> 01:12:00,837
completely transparent. That got

1829
01:12:00,837 --> 01:12:03,184
overlooked. So, I apologize

1830
01:12:03,184 --> 01:12:06,234
for that. So, I'll look into it. And, um,

1831
01:12:06,234 --> 01:12:08,956
we're good with Comcast for

1832
01:12:08,956 --> 01:12:11,055
internet. I'm just waiting for

1833
01:12:11,055 --> 01:12:13,643
a reason to need it. So,

1834
01:12:13,643 --> 01:12:15,735
um, I don't want to start paying until we

1835
01:12:15,735 --> 01:12:18,246
need it. And Comcast is much

1836
01:12:18,246 --> 01:12:20,821
faster than Consolidated in terms

1837
01:12:20,821 --> 01:12:24,587
of getting the service up and running. If you recall,

1838
01:12:24,587 --> 01:12:26,355
Consolidated had to go to the garage

1839
01:12:26,355 --> 01:12:28,325
because Comcast doesn't, and it took them

1840
01:12:28,325 --> 01:12:30,195
almost six months to set up service,

1841
01:12:30,195 --> 01:12:32,114
but Comcast can be there in two

1842
01:12:32,114 --> 01:12:33,839
weeks. I

1843
01:12:33,839 --> 01:12:35,439
already have the plant.

1844
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,417
Yes. Um, I might suggest, if I could

1845
01:12:39,417 --> 01:12:41,349
give a brief status report—

1846
01:12:41,349 --> 01:12:43,394
limited in detail, of course,

1847
01:12:43,394 --> 01:12:45,552
within reason—on our

1848
01:12:45,552 --> 01:12:47,484
search for a replacement for the

1849
01:12:47,484 --> 01:12:49,188
town manager, for

1850
01:12:49,188 --> 01:12:52,233
anyone who might be watching. Um,

1851
01:12:52,233 --> 01:12:54,580
I'd just like to let

1852
01:12:54,580 --> 01:12:57,221
anyone who's curious know that we

1853
01:12:57,221 --> 01:13:00,081
've narrowed it down to a few finalists, about

1854
01:13:00,081 --> 01:13:02,282
whom I won't reveal much

1855
01:13:02,282 --> 01:13:05,143
information yet, as we want to

1856
01:13:05,143 --> 01:13:08,003
make sure they're willing to

1857
01:13:08,003 --> 01:13:10,204
proceed to a final round of

1858
01:13:10,204 --> 01:13:12,991
interviews that will take place sometime in

1859
01:13:12,991 --> 01:13:17,479
the next week or so. Um,

1860
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,612
which will include interviews with

1861
01:13:19,612 --> 01:13:21,639
town staff members, employees who

1862
01:13:21,639 --> 01:13:23,399
will be involved in this

1863
01:13:23,399 --> 01:13:27,085
evaluation process. Um, but no

1864
01:13:27,085 --> 01:13:28,707
final decision has been made, although we are

1865
01:13:28,707 --> 01:13:36,219
entering the phase Finally. Thank you. He

1866
01:13:36,219 --> 01:13:38,416
said, "Does anyone have any... I should

1867
01:13:38,416 --> 01:13:40,614
have asked Mike when he was

1868
01:13:40,614 --> 01:13:42,756
here, but the water plant, excuse me

1869
01:13:42,756 --> 01:13:44,788
, the water plant rehabilitation

1870
01:13:44,788 --> 01:13:46,656
, the engineering, have you had

1871
01:13:46,656 --> 01:13:48,899
any ideas?" "I have

1872
01:13:48,899 --> 01:13:51,824
n't heard anything from them about that

1873
01:13:51,824 --> 01:13:53,556
. I get regular communication,

1874
01:13:53,556 --> 01:13:55,518
obviously, about the Car project,

1875
01:13:55,518 --> 01:13:57,374
but I'll be contacting the

1876
01:13:57,374 --> 01:13:59,136
same firm, Hill and Tanner. Are

1877
01:13:59,136 --> 01:14:00,719
we going to do a roundtable?

1878
01:14:00,719 --> 01:14:01,275
Hm. Are we going to

1879
01:14:01,275 --> 01:14:02,459
have a

1880
01:14:02,459 --> 01:14:03,615
board roundtable? Because we were on

1881
01:14:03,615 --> 01:14:05,136
backlog. Yes. The

1882
01:14:05,136 --> 01:14:06,022
water treatment plant rehabilitation is on

1883
01:14:06,022 --> 01:14:06,739
backlog. Yes.

1884
01:14:06,739 --> 01:14:10,200
Very good.

1885
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,140
That's, that's my only question.

1886
01:14:12,140 --> 01:14:16,360
Okay. Anything else for

1887
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:30,519
backlog? Roundtable? Um, we did

1888
01:14:30,519 --> 01:14:33,427
the card reader. The reason I

1889
01:14:33,427 --> 01:14:34,997
joined the board, the reason

1890
01:14:34,997 --> 01:14:36,097
I ran: the

1891
01:14:36,097 --> 01:14:39,179
winter maintenance plan. Have we

1892
01:14:39,179 --> 01:14:42,548
started any, uh, plans?

1893
01:14:42,548 --> 01:14:43,908
Winter maintenance plans for how we're going

1894
01:14:43,908 --> 01:14:45,190
to approach this winter

1895
01:14:45,190 --> 01:14:46,628
maintaining the roads to

1896
01:14:46,628 --> 01:14:49,437
keep them passable. So Nate

1897
01:14:49,437 --> 01:14:51,384
and I will probably sit down in

1898
01:14:51,384 --> 01:14:53,493
mid-October to work on that,

1899
01:14:53,493 --> 01:14:55,602
or with the new city manager

1900
01:14:55,602 --> 01:14:59,367
when he arrives. They're already starting

1901
01:14:59,367 --> 01:15:01,320
vehicle maintenance and

1902
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,381
replacing the sidewalk snowplow,

1903
01:15:03,381 --> 01:15:05,551
which will be pretty much completely dismantled

1904
01:15:05,551 --> 01:15:09,153
. They're going to put it back on the board." Paint it and

1905
01:15:09,153 --> 01:15:11,580
do a lot of maintenance.

1906
01:15:11,580 --> 01:15:14,165
We're talking about making sure it's

1907
01:15:14,165 --> 01:15:16,681
ready in November in case an

1908
01:15:16,681 --> 01:15:20,195
early storm hits. The biggest problem we're

1909
01:15:20,195 --> 01:15:23,265
going to have... Well, we have two

1910
01:15:23,265 --> 01:15:26,900
things affecting us this winter.

1911
01:15:26,900 --> 01:15:28,507
One, obviously, is that until

1912
01:15:28,507 --> 01:15:30,350
we hire a second driver with a

1913
01:15:30,350 --> 01:15:32,147
CDL, we'll only have one big truck

1914
01:15:32,147 --> 01:15:34,096
running. So that's a

1915
01:15:34,096 --> 01:15:37,518
definite priority. The other is when

1916
01:15:37,518 --> 01:15:42,959
the new union contract was passed.

1917
01:15:42,959 --> 01:15:48,748
Uh, it was passed and negotiated before, this. Let me give you the

1918
01:15:48,748 --> 01:15:50,531
history of when we needed to

1919
01:15:50,531 --> 01:15:53,021
call in staff. We had a

1920
01:15:53,021 --> 01:15:55,559
two-hour call-in, which was great.

1921
01:15:55,559 --> 01:15:57,801
We could call in the whole crew.

1922
01:15:57,801 --> 01:15:59,640
We know the storm is going to be severe. We'd

1923
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,220
hit the highways hard for

1924
01:16:02,220 --> 01:16:04,867
probably an hour and a half, and everyone would

1925
01:16:04,867 --> 01:16:07,315
come out and have like a half-hour

1926
01:16:07,315 --> 01:16:09,751
buffer, right? They'd get paid two

1927
01:16:09,751 --> 01:16:12,720
hours for the call-in. Um, the new

1928
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,185
contract that was negotiated increased that to

1929
01:16:15,185 --> 01:16:18,981
four hours. So that makes

1930
01:16:18,981 --> 01:16:21,263
staffing much, much

1931
01:16:21,263 --> 01:16:23,076
harder, because I can't

1932
01:16:23,076 --> 01:16:25,358
afford to have all my staff come in,

1933
01:16:25,358 --> 01:16:27,639
work hard on the highways for

1934
01:16:27,639 --> 01:16:29,862
an hour and a half, and I charge four hours

1935
01:16:29,862 --> 01:16:32,997
of overtime. So

1936
01:16:32,997 --> 01:16:34,779
last year we really had to work out

1937
01:16:34,779 --> 01:16:36,514
how we were going to staff

1938
01:16:36,514 --> 01:16:38,376
during these storms. And I think

1939
01:16:38,376 --> 01:16:40,142
by the end of the season we had

1940
01:16:40,142 --> 01:16:42,824
a pretty good system in place. Um, but it was

1941
01:16:42,824 --> 01:16:44,278
definitely a learning curve

1942
01:16:44,278 --> 01:16:45,854
because this had never had to be

1943
01:16:45,854 --> 01:16:50,741
done before. Well, but I will say that, of the

1944
01:16:50,741 --> 01:16:53,842
new contract, that's one part that I

1945
01:16:53,842 --> 01:16:56,943
absolutely don't like and I think

1946
01:16:56,943 --> 01:17:00,296
causes a lot of problems, because I can't

1947
01:17:00,296 --> 01:17:03,480
justify it to the public or to

1948
01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:07,363
myself. I live here paying

1949
01:17:07,363 --> 01:17:09,352
someone for an hour and a half of work

1950
01:17:09,352 --> 01:17:11,138
, or getting an hour and a half of

1951
01:17:11,138 --> 01:17:13,127
work from someone who was actually

1952
01:17:13,127 --> 01:17:14,862
paid for four hours, and that blows

1953
01:17:14,862 --> 01:17:16,698
our winter budget very

1954
01:17:16,698 --> 01:17:18,687
quickly with the overtime rates

1955
01:17:18,687 --> 01:17:23,490
. So that's, again, the Tetris

1956
01:17:23,490 --> 01:17:27,155
that we'll have to play this winter and

1957
01:17:27,155 --> 01:17:30,775
solve. Obviously, it's fine if the

1958
01:17:30,775 --> 01:17:33,439
snow falls between 6:00 and 2:30,

1959
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,175
but we all know that's not always what

1960
01:17:36,175 --> 01:17:39,276
happens. So, just so you

1961
01:17:39,276 --> 01:17:42,220
're aware, that's a big struggle.

1962
01:17:42,220 --> 01:17:46,552
Because if you think about it,

1963
01:17:46,552 --> 01:17:48,114
before we could Call in four

1964
01:17:48,114 --> 01:17:50,017
people, an hour and a half each,

1965
01:17:50,017 --> 01:17:52,500
right? Six hours of work. That's

1966
01:17:52,500 --> 01:17:54,959
fine. They all get eight hours of pay.

1967
01:17:54,959 --> 01:17:56,525
Now, if I call in those four, they're

1968
01:17:56,525 --> 01:18:00,128
getting 16 hours of pay. That's a

1969
01:18:00,128 --> 01:18:01,124
big difference.

1970
01:18:01,124 --> 01:18:02,647
Call in two and have them work.

1971
01:18:02,647 --> 01:18:05,480
Exactly. Exactly. But it takes a little more

1972
01:18:05,480 --> 01:18:08,859
time, right? So, that's it. We have to

1973
01:18:08,859 --> 01:18:10,520
, I mean, we really

1974
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,316
have to watch our salt usage

1975
01:18:12,316 --> 01:18:13,640
to keep

1976
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,106
the trucks running. Sometimes paying

1977
01:18:15,106 --> 01:18:16,787
guys overtime and keeping them

1978
01:18:16,787 --> 01:18:18,512
on the road longer reduces

1979
01:18:18,512 --> 01:18:20,251
salt usage at the end of the storm. I know

1980
01:18:20,251 --> 01:18:21,774
these last two storms, we were

1981
01:18:21,774 --> 01:18:23,142
spreading salt for a week

1982
01:18:23,142 --> 01:18:24,548
afterward, still trying to get the

1983
01:18:24,548 --> 01:18:25,102
road clear.

1984
01:18:25,102 --> 01:18:26,415
Trying to get it cleared, and sometimes that's

1985
01:18:26,415 --> 01:18:27,758
just going to happen, right?

1986
01:18:27,758 --> 01:18:29,727
We'll have those times when it's

1987
01:18:29,727 --> 01:18:31,677
just terrible. But if

1988
01:18:31,677 --> 01:18:33,856
we can, yeah, if we can get it right and

1989
01:18:33,856 --> 01:18:36,161
have a good amount of salt,

1990
01:18:36,161 --> 01:18:38,451
right? We were able to buy it in advance

1991
01:18:38,451 --> 01:18:40,601
this year and got a good price;

1992
01:18:40,601 --> 01:18:42,808
we still have a good chunk of the

1993
01:18:42,808 --> 01:18:45,699
money left. The only thing we don't have right now

1994
01:18:45,699 --> 01:18:47,227
, I think We're

1995
01:18:47,227 --> 01:18:50,496
completely out of liquid. So

1996
01:18:50,496 --> 01:18:53,361
we're going to have to buy some. And we also

1997
01:18:53,361 --> 01:18:56,641
need sand, but we have a plan

1998
01:18:56,641 --> 01:18:58,615
for that. Nate and I were talking

1999
01:18:58,615 --> 01:19:00,840
about it last week. Last year

2000
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,820
we ran out of salt, and everyone

2001
01:19:02,820 --> 01:19:05,220
ran out of salt because of the storms

2002
01:19:05,220 --> 01:19:08,819
in the South. So now with our

2003
01:19:08,819 --> 01:19:10,580
salt shed, we shouldn't

2004
01:19:10,580 --> 01:19:12,392
have that problem as long as we can

2005
01:19:12,392 --> 01:19:15,669
keep it stocked. We should

2006
01:19:15,669 --> 01:19:20,132
be in better shape. So, you

2007
01:19:20,132 --> 01:19:22,406
're telling me we can have the

2008
01:19:22,406 --> 01:19:24,623
guys come for an hour and a half, clear the

2009
01:19:24,623 --> 01:19:28,032
storm, and leave? That doesn't usually

2010
01:19:28,032 --> 01:19:30,521
happen. There are many times when they work

2011
01:19:30,521 --> 01:19:32,540
four, five, six, seven hours.

2012
01:19:32,540 --> 01:19:34,772
There are some times, I'm telling you, but not

2013
01:19:34,772 --> 01:19:35,899
most.

2014
01:19:35,899 --> 01:19:39,791
of the time when they come, for an hour and a half, clear, they

2015
01:19:39,791 --> 01:19:40,120
...

2016
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,120
So, here's the thing.

2017
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,146
Maybe, maybe this year we could

2018
01:19:44,146 --> 01:19:46,226
get them to push the snow back further

2019
01:19:46,226 --> 01:19:48,252
instead of driving halfway down

2020
01:19:48,252 --> 01:19:50,065
Academy Street all winter

2021
01:19:50,065 --> 01:19:52,290
. Maybe they could spend another

2022
01:19:52,290 --> 01:19:54,060
hour and push the snow back.

2023
01:19:54,060 --> 01:19:55,479
We'll have a discussion,

2024
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,524
and that would put a little bit of money back

2025
01:19:57,524 --> 01:19:58,870
in our pockets.

2026
01:19:58,870 --> 01:19:59,409
Yeah.

2027
01:19:59,409 --> 01:20:00,660
You know, it'll

2028
01:20:00,660 --> 01:20:02,285
follow us costing the same,

2029
01:20:02,285 --> 01:20:04,439
right? And our budget is still

2030
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:05,756
very small. It's still going to

2031
01:20:05,756 --> 01:20:07,414
cost the same amount of

2032
01:20:07,414 --> 01:20:09,418
money. Let's not do it, let's work it. No,

2033
01:20:09,418 --> 01:20:10,872
because I would send two men

2034
01:20:10,872 --> 01:20:11,900
instead of four.

2035
01:20:11,900 --> 01:20:13,352
Well, we can still get work out

2036
01:20:13,352 --> 01:20:15,500
of them, you know, instead of...

2037
01:20:15,500 --> 01:20:18,032
Oh, yeah. Well, and that's the part

2038
01:20:18,032 --> 01:20:19,911
Nate and I have talked about, that if I'm going to

2039
01:20:19,911 --> 01:20:21,889
pay someone for four hours, I need it to

2040
01:20:21,889 --> 01:20:24,388
be close to four hours of work.

2041
01:20:24,388 --> 01:20:25,640
I think there has to be some

2042
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:26,589
planning to do here.

2043
01:20:26,589 --> 01:20:28,619
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. But it

2044
01:20:28,619 --> 01:20:30,062
also has to work within the

2045
01:20:30,062 --> 01:20:31,208
budget we've been given.

2046
01:20:31,208 --> 01:20:32,015
Exactly.

2047
01:20:32,015 --> 01:20:33,069
So,

2048
01:20:33,069 --> 01:20:34,378
I think she's talking about the

2049
01:20:34,378 --> 01:20:35,859
smaller storms. They go out, you call them

2050
01:20:35,859 --> 01:20:37,134
to ask, can you check the

2051
01:20:37,134 --> 01:20:38,531
road? So a man goes out,

2052
01:20:38,531 --> 01:20:40,033
checks the roads, puts down some salt,

2053
01:20:40,033 --> 01:20:41,560
and does the whole town in an hour and a half.

2054
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:42,920
Now you're paying them for four.

2055
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:43,257
Yeah.

2056
01:20:43,257 --> 01:20:44,883
That kind of thing. Or a

2057
01:20:44,883 --> 01:20:46,714
light storm, they go in, they finish quickly. And yeah,

2058
01:20:46,714 --> 01:20:48,418
we understand the bigger storms.

2059
01:20:48,418 --> 01:20:50,362
It is what it is. We have to be...

2060
01:20:50,362 --> 01:20:52,427
I understand that. But,

2061
01:20:52,427 --> 01:20:53,324
uh, exactly.

2062
01:20:53,324 --> 01:20:54,488
I fought all last winter to

2063
01:20:54,488 --> 01:20:55,684
get them to push the snow

2064
01:20:55,684 --> 01:20:59,658
back off the roads. Uh, on Academy

2065
01:20:59,658 --> 01:21:02,366
Street going down to 22A, I could

2066
01:21:02,366 --> 01:21:05,075
see the S and the T of the stop sign

2067
01:21:05,075 --> 01:21:08,795
all winter. The rest was all

2068
01:21:08,795 --> 01:21:11,024
under the snowbank. So,

2069
01:21:11,024 --> 01:21:12,329
you can't tell me that can't be

2070
01:21:12,329 --> 01:21:13,121
fixed.

2071
01:21:13,121 --> 01:21:17,027
The next day, there was a

2072
01:21:17,027 --> 01:21:18,979
whole lane missing—

2073
01:21:18,979 --> 01:21:20,830
not just the whole lane.

2074
01:21:20,830 --> 01:21:23,439
The first street right here. Same thing.

2075
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:25,789
If we're still here, then we'll take care

2076
01:21:25,789 --> 01:21:28,899
of it. Exactly. Exactly.

2077
01:21:28,899 --> 01:21:29,839
Yeah.

2078
01:21:29,839 --> 01:21:33,343
Oh, he's not going to go away that fast.

2079
01:21:33,343 --> 01:21:34,576
Dennis, do you have anything else for

2080
01:21:34,576 --> 01:21:35,170
round two?

2081
01:21:35,170 --> 01:21:36,546
No, I'll let that go. That's

2082
01:21:36,546 --> 01:21:39,199
enough. Okay,

2083
01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:41,504
I have a couple of things. Uh, first

2084
01:21:41,504 --> 01:21:45,181
is, does the town own any land?

2085
01:21:45,181 --> 01:21:48,019
Like, just acres of land?

2086
01:21:48,019 --> 01:21:49,620
Lots

2087
01:21:49,620 --> 01:21:52,096
with lots of trees.

2088
01:21:52,096 --> 01:21:54,424
In some places. Yeah. Did you ever

2089
01:21:54,424 --> 01:21:56,446
think about cutting it down and putting that

2090
01:21:56,446 --> 01:21:58,379
money back into the town? It's

2091
01:21:58,379 --> 01:22:00,310
done. It's been done before. It was

2092
01:22:00,310 --> 01:22:03,130
done about 10 years ago, I think.

2093
01:22:03,130 --> 01:22:04,539
Yeah.

2094
01:22:04,539 --> 01:22:07,116
Um, we were talking about getting a

2095
01:22:07,116 --> 01:22:09,436
forester to check it out and

2096
01:22:09,436 --> 01:22:11,949
give us an estimate. Joe was supposed to be

2097
01:22:11,949 --> 01:22:14,269
working on it, but the forester

2098
01:22:14,269 --> 01:22:17,083
never got in touch.

2099
01:22:17,083 --> 01:22:17,423
Yeah.

2100
01:22:17,423 --> 01:22:18,595
Or something happened

2101
01:22:18,595 --> 01:22:20,369
that... Yeah, that's what... it just fell through

2102
01:22:20,369 --> 01:22:21,901
. So, but yeah, we do it

2103
01:22:21,901 --> 01:22:24,160
. We do that. I

2104
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,312
was just curious that it's

2105
01:22:26,312 --> 01:22:28,580
actually from Big Hill Road to Benson

2106
01:22:28,580 --> 01:22:28,799
.

2107
01:22:28,799 --> 01:22:29,859
Yeah.

2108
01:22:29,859 --> 01:22:30,700
Oh, wow.

2109
01:22:30,700 --> 01:22:33,487
Because our road ends there,

2110
01:22:33,487 --> 01:22:36,301
we go all the way to Benson. So, all of

2111
01:22:36,301 --> 01:22:38,132
West Haven, that side is actually

2112
01:22:38,132 --> 01:22:38,840
ours.

2113
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:45,499
Oh, okay. This is the other side.

2114
01:22:45,499 --> 01:22:47,487
Uh, the second thing is, um, I want to read a

2115
01:22:47,487 --> 01:22:55,559
letter here, dated today, 9/29/26.

2116
01:22:55,559 --> 01:22:57,714
Dear Select Board Members,

2117
01:22:57,714 --> 01:22:59,707
please accept this letter as my

2118
01:22:59,707 --> 01:23:01,754
formal resignation from the

2119
01:23:01,754 --> 01:23:06,363
Fair Haven Select Board, effective 9/29/26. This

2120
01:23:06,363 --> 01:23:08,070
decision is made for

2121
01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:11,219
personal reasons, um, which require my

2122
01:23:11,219 --> 01:23:13,439
attention. I am grateful for the

2123
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,194
opportunity to have served the people

2124
01:23:15,194 --> 01:23:16,769
of Fair Haven and to have worked

2125
01:23:16,769 --> 01:23:18,479
alongside my fellow board members and

2126
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:20,930
town officials. It has been It has been an

2127
01:23:20,930 --> 01:23:22,726
honor to serve the residents of Fair

2128
01:23:22,726 --> 01:23:24,840
Haven. I appreciate the trust you

2129
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,538
placed in me and the opportunity to

2130
01:23:27,538 --> 01:23:30,606
continue contributing to the community. I

2131
01:23:30,606 --> 01:23:32,712
wish the board select, the

2132
01:23:32,712 --> 01:23:34,819
village staff, and the residents of Fair

2133
01:23:34,819 --> 01:23:37,740
Haven continued success in the future.

2134
01:23:37,740 --> 01:23:40,470
Thank you for the opportunity to serve and

2135
01:23:40,470 --> 01:23:43,270
help the village. Sincerely, Keith

2136
01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:46,859
Hire. So, with that said, this is my

2137
01:23:46,859 --> 01:23:49,499
last meeting, and thank you

2138
01:23:49,499 --> 01:23:52,019
all so much for everything. I appreciate it.

2139
01:23:52,019 --> 01:23:53,452
Thank you, thank you, Keith.

2140
01:23:53,452 --> 01:23:55,500
Thank you. Thank you for serving on the board

2141
01:23:55,500 --> 01:23:55,659
.

2142
01:23:55,659 --> 01:23:59,480
Absolutely.

2143
01:23:59,480 --> 01:24:01,280
Um, in these situations, I can't recall

2144
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,128
what we did in Mr. Doran's case,

2145
01:24:03,128 --> 01:24:04,834
but is a motion required to

2146
01:24:04,834 --> 01:24:08,739
accept the letter? It would

2147
01:24:08,739 --> 01:24:11,260
n't hurt.

2148
01:24:11,260 --> 01:24:12,759
I then move to

2149
01:24:12,759 --> 01:24:14,386
accept Keith Hire's letter of resignation

2150
01:24:14,386 --> 01:24:15,885
from the board with heavy

2151
01:24:15,885 --> 01:24:17,500
heart

2152
01:24:17,500 --> 01:24:19,660
and much appreciation.

2153
01:24:19,660 --> 01:24:23,421
No second.

2154
01:24:23,421 --> 01:24:26,202
Thank you for serving on the board. Um, as

2155
01:24:26,202 --> 01:24:28,883
we've seen over the years,

2156
01:24:28,883 --> 01:24:31,161
people come in and out of the board a

2157
01:24:31,161 --> 01:24:33,956
number of times. So perhaps we'll

2158
01:24:33,956 --> 01:24:36,202
see you again in these seats

2159
01:24:36,202 --> 01:24:37,071
in the future.

2160
01:24:37,071 --> 01:24:39,760
There will be a Vacant.

2161
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:44,220
Uh, everyone in favor of the

2162
01:24:44,220 --> 01:24:45,661
motion.

2163
01:24:45,661 --> 01:24:50,219
is approved. Thank you. Thank you.

2164
01:24:54,540 --> 01:25:00,169
Excuse me, ladies. Clothes. You can always

2165
01:25:00,169 --> 01:25:02,619
come sit with us now.

2166
01:25:02,619 --> 01:25:05,819
That's right. Here's

2167
01:25:05,819 --> 01:25:12,132
everything I have. Rich, I don't have anything

2168
01:25:12,132 --> 01:25:18,379
for tonight. Okay. That's fine

2169
01:25:18,379 --> 01:25:20,937
. Um, well, there's a storm that's been

2170
01:25:20,937 --> 01:25:23,546
hitting the East Coast. It looks like we

2171
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won't get the worst of it.

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01:25:25,580 --> 01:25:27,311
But if we had gotten the worst of it, you

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01:25:27,311 --> 01:25:29,043
could have been notified about

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01:25:29,043 --> 01:25:30,729
that storm on VT Alert, which is a

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01:25:30,729 --> 01:25:37,740
big emergency. That was good.

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01:25:37,740 --> 01:25:39,831
You could do yourselves a favor and sign up

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01:25:39,831 --> 01:25:41,699
for those notifications.

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01:25:41,699 --> 01:25:45,775
The State House or something. No,

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01:25:45,775 --> 01:25:47,588
we have to get you. We have to

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01:25:47,588 --> 01:25:49,379
get you now.

2181
01:25:49,379 --> 01:25:50,971
I can help you with that if you need it,

2182
01:25:50,971 --> 01:25:52,400
and I'm happy to help anybody else

2183
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,455
if they need it. Um, and I think I'm

2184
01:25:55,455 --> 01:25:58,899
going to leave it there for tonight.

2185
01:25:58,899 --> 01:26:00,603
I'll leave things as they are for

2186
01:26:00,603 --> 01:26:03,613
tonight as well. Review

2187
01:26:03,613 --> 01:26:07,604
financial reports. Okay. Tonight,

2188
01:26:07,604 --> 01:26:10,334
I file a motion to accept the

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01:26:10,334 --> 01:26:12,621
payroll payment order for $

2190
01:26:12,621 --> 01:26:19,109
42,126.10. Go ahead. Second. I

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01:26:19,109 --> 01:26:21,620
second. Everyone in favor?

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01:26:21,620 --> 01:26:24,399
The motion is approved. I

2193
01:26:24,399 --> 01:26:26,534
also move to

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01:26:26,534 --> 01:26:28,608
accept the check order for $

2195
01:26:28,608 --> 01:26:37,319
749,174.71. And that, just so you all know

2196
01:26:37,319 --> 01:26:39,159
, if you didn't check, has

2197
01:26:39,159 --> 01:26:41,681
over $500,000 in school fees. So I

2198
01:26:41,681 --> 01:26:43,687
know everyone shuddered a little

2199
01:26:43,687 --> 01:26:46,009
because I did too, but yes. Do

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01:26:46,009 --> 01:26:47,794
I hear you for a second? Everyone shocked

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01:26:47,794 --> 01:26:50,771
by that. Everyone in favor, the motion is

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01:26:50,771 --> 01:26:53,239
approved.

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01:26:53,239 --> 01:26:55,639
And I'm not sure if I received what I

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01:26:55,639 --> 01:26:58,105
normally receive that tells me how

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01:26:58,105 --> 01:27:00,105
the checkbook is

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01:27:00,105 --> 01:27:04,823
currently in your box. You have it right up there

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01:27:04,823 --> 01:27:05,527
.

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01:27:05,527 --> 01:27:07,899
Oh, okay. Yes, yes, yes. I see.

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01:27:07,899 --> 01:27:10,623
Uh, our checkbook is

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01:27:10,623 --> 01:27:21,561
currently at $115,376.71. That's good

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01:27:21,561 --> 01:27:24,792
. Uh, food truck frenzy

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01:27:24,792 --> 01:27:26,797
tomorrow night.

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01:27:26,797 --> 01:27:28,811
No. Uh, no. Next week.

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01:27:28,811 --> 01:27:29,604
Next Wednesday.

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01:27:29,604 --> 01:27:35,139
Oh, still a week away. Yes.

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01:27:35,139 --> 01:27:38,280
I will accept a motion to go into

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01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,592
Executive session under 1 VSA 313A3 for

2218
01:27:41,592 --> 01:27:44,299
legal and personnel reasons.

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01:27:44,299 --> 01:27:46,849
I will file a motion to enter into

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01:27:46,849 --> 01:27:50,580
executive session under 1 VSA 313A3.

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01:27:50,580 --> 01:27:53,345
I support that. Everyone in favor? Fine

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01:27:53,345 --> 01:28:06,899
. Whatever.