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And you never know when an emergency
situation will happen. That's why

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[music] the Fairfield Area Community
Emergency Response Team or CERT C is

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here. Cert is made up of trained
volunteers ready to take care of

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themselves, their families, and their
neighbors when disaster strikes. Through

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20 hours of hands-on training led by
local emergency [music] management,

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members learn vital skills like disaster
preparedness, fire safety, medical

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operations, and search and rescue. Join
[music] C today and be ready to make a

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difference when it matters most. New
members training will be on Saturday,

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January 10th [music] and 17th, 2026.
Both training days will run from 8:00

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a.m. to 6:00 p.m. at [music] the
Fairfield Community Center, 61 Water

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Street, Fairfield, Maine. The [music]
class is limited to 20 participants and

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registration is required. To register,
email info at fairfield-me.gov [music]

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or call to 074537911.

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To the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it

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stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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Good evening everyone. Wish you an early
merry Christmas and happy holidays.

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» Thank you.
>> Quick reminder to please silence your

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cell phones.

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First order of business, public
announcements. Details may be found at

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www.fairfield-me.gov.

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All non-emergency town offices will
close at noon on December 24th and will

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be closed December 25th and the 26th for
the Christmas holiday. All non-emergency

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town offices will be closed on Monday,
January January 1st for the New Year's

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holiday. I don't think it's Monday.
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» Wednesday.
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» What's holiday?
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» In December, council begins reviewing
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» Thursday. Thursday, January. [laughter]
Like, it's not Wednesday either.

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» Yeah, Wednesday's New Year's.
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» Thursday.
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appointment applications for upcoming
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committees, including the following:
budget committee, planning board, land

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use board of appeals, board of
assessment review, and voter

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registration board of appeals. If you
are interested in serving your

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community, please complete an
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online or at the town office.
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council's January annual organizational
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14th. Am I correct?
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registered after January 31st, 2026 will
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current rabies vaccination is required.
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cert training. Please email info@f
fairfield-me.gov

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to reserve your spot.
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right in January.
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» All right.
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December 19th from 400 p.m. to 7:30 p.m.
at the Fairfield Community Center.

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Please sign your children up at the
fairfield copscare.com.

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And when you walk in, the place is
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through and I think kids will be very,
very happy to see what the cops have

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done for them this year.
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drive. Diapers and/or wipes of all sizes
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town office or food pantry. The deadline
is February 1st, 2026.

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Library holiday party Thursday, December
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community conversations on Tuesday
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playgroup on Friday mornings at 10:30
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order of business, public comments.
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minutes. Members of the public may speak
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to speak on a specific item that's on
the agenda or may email comments for

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council to info@fairfield-me.gov
by 4 p.m. day of meeting. Submitted

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content may be read aloud at this time.
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make a comment or reserve time to speak
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» what's that? he would be part of the
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» Bob, how are you?
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comment will be directly
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looking for a injured person to maybe
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outside, whatever, I'd be willing to
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of training, but I just can't. So, I
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» Thank you very much, Bob. Um, I will let
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order business, town manager and
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All right. So, on November 25th, the
code enforcement officer and I met with

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KB Cog staff to discuss a housing needs
assessment that they are working on for

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the town of Fairfield. This assessment
is funded through a housing opportunity

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program grant through the state. So, it
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municipality. Um, and it will give us a
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is some GIS mapping of some of our
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mapping for layouts of the community.
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um it's not anything that they've ever
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a guinea pig um to work out the process
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able to um make this process available
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of KV COB's um catchment area. So, we're
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that started. November 27th and 28th,
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for the Thanksgiving holiday. December
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weather. They were closed completely.
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all committee meetings on the 2nd were
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December 4th I attended the ice arena
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of December I attended the building
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project updates for you. Budget prep
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waiting on some data from outside
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those sort of things that are big
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not have what those numbers are yet. We
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our union contract renewals. So the hope
is right now that we'll get those union

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meetings out of the way the first part
of January. You'll have your budget and

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they will schedule the meeting
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the it's a fourth or the third weekend
in January. It's the cert teams

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it's the third Saturday in January I
think cert teams snow date. If they

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don't need that then we'll bump it to if
they do need it we'll bump it to the

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31st. Uh that's the tenant plan right
now, but you'll have the budget by the

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end of January. Um and then also, uh the
contract was signed for KRG First Park's

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new executive director this week. Um
that press release was handed out to you

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tonight, so you have a copy of that.
We're really excited about her getting

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started. Uh she was the uh director down
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really hoping her expertise is going to
bring a lot more businesses to this

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region. So that's it for me.
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uh thank our department heads. We we
have our monthly uh report. It's very

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in-depth. Thank you again. I'm just
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reval is going on and I I just want to
report that they have mentioned a little

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over 1.3 million in new um assessed
value that they've done. So that will

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help our town revenue when we get in the
budget process. So again, all

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departments, thank you.
Yes. And that's value that will hit

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immediately, not not value that has to
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So, yep.
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with economic development.
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didn't meet on December 2nd because of
the storm. And so, our next meeting is

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going to be January 6th at 3:30 here in
council chambers. Um, just so you all

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know, we have seven more openings for
the CERT C training. The CERT C training

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is on the second and third Saturdays in
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we need it. Um, it they are 10-hour
days. People are asked to bring their

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lunch. Uh, it's open not just for
Fairfield citizens, but for people in

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our surrounding area, um, from age from
high school seniors on up. So, um,

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again, there are seven positions that
are still vacant and we would love to

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have them all filled
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» Dr. Towns and PFA,
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meeting scheduled for uh December 2nd,
but that one got snowed out. Uh, so we

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are rescheduling at this point to
January 12th um for us. So, that was

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again meeting with the legislators and
kind of going over the situation than

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our reports. So, January 12th, I think
about six o'clock at that point. So,

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that'll be a uh that is a trying to look
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» Monday.
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» Okay. I'm going to uh I'll do Ice Arena
first since um building's going to be a

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little bit longer. Um so, Ice Arena, we
met in in December. I totally forgot all

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my notes on my desk. Um,
we met with Sheridan and we went over

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some of the plans that the prior group
from Central Main um, youth hockey and

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the Alphon Center had. Um, they had a
number of different plans, different

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price ranges, different sizes. What we
have decided to do um, was see how much

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accessible land we have um, how much of
it is going to be waste land that we

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can't use. what do we do with the PFA
land like building a mound for maybe a

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sledding hill or whatever. Uh but we're
going to take a backwards approach to

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come into this with what kind of size
building can we have first of all

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depending on the amount of parking
spaces that will be available. So our

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next next meeting will be in January and
hopefully we'll have some more

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information at that time uh to bring
back. So kind of a backwards approach

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but we would like to see you know what's
our maximum footprint before we can do

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anything else. Dr. T am I leaving
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» No, those are big ones. I think backing
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» Yeah.
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Michelle, the other date cuz again I
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» 22nd is what I had.
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» should be a Thursday I believe again.
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» yep.
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» sure. [snorts] So tenatively January
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» Okay. Um Peter building committee.
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at 5:00.
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we only had three members there and we
discussed about the building RFP

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and
I'm going to introduce Max who is going

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to brief that from a billing committee.
we want

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» when we get to that item. It's it's an
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» Okay. So, we'll wait till the last one.
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» Okay. So, Max, we're going to put you
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[clears throat]
>> Okay. That's it for the for committees

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for now. Fifth order business, the
consent agenda. These items are

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considered routine or standard business
and therefore will be enacted by one

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motion. There will be no separate
discussion of these items unless a

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council member so requests private
consideration of this portion of the

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agenda in which event the item will be
removed from the consent agenda and

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considered next on the agenda.
Seeing none, item 25-124

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ordered that the Fairfield Town Council
hereby waves the reading of and accepts

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the minutes for meeting 2025-20
held on November 19th, 2025.

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» So moved. Second.
>> No, we got two more.

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» That's That's fine. We'll read them all.
Item 25-125.

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Order that the town council hereby
approves the treasures warrant number 91

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in the amount of 1,45,86822

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include but not limited to motor vehicle
fees, MSAD 49 December allocation, main

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municipal employee health and OKConor
GMC. Item 25-126

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order. The town council hereby approves
and signs the sewer certificate of

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commitment in the amount of $164,92.50

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for the fourth quarter fiscal year sewer
billing for the period of 10125 through

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123125.
How about now?

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» Now make a motion. Second.
>> So I have a motion by council towns and

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second by councelor Tibido. Any
questions?

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Seeing none, all those in favor. It's
unanimous. 5-0.

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Six. Order of business. Discuss the
traffic concerns raised by residents at

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11:119 meeting. So this will be on the
intersection,

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I believe, Norwalk Road and it
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Martin Street, and Six Rod. The
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Yep.
And you received a memo from Chief Gold.

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pros and cons it looks like at this
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» Yeah. What do you What do you think, Dr.
T? I mean, you look at it and just what

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he's saying, you do have the stops and
maybe you'll have fewer uh t-bone type

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uh accidents, but you worry about the
ones of people going straight on through

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because they're used to it not being a
stop. You're worrying about the backup

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of traffic and the rear ending. So, I'm
not sure which one's better or worse,

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but I definitely see it when it's out
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can understand it.

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Yes, we added reflectors several years
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area. The issue we had with like so if
you did like blinking flashing lights,

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there's no there's no power supply and
there's not enough we don't believe

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enough u visibility for solar generated
lights in that area. So,

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» so basically that intersection where
where six rod Martin stream connect

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there are no stop signs. There's stop
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road. I think the I live on that road as
well. So I think the problem that we're

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dealing with is this time of year
particularly with sundown. I think

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you're going to see more of the
accidents early morning when sun's

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coming up going down the six rod road
from Martin Stream and accidents going

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through the four-way at night at
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sun is is blinding in those areas
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you know the blinking the blinking
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to to me would make sense because it's
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Uh so if we were going to pursue it any
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those are really the only two stops.
People are just blowing through those.

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They've been a stop sign for 70 years,
as long as a road's been there. Um Six

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Rod Martin has never it's never been a
four-way stop sign. So unlike what

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they've changed on uh Fairfield Street,
Oakland Road, Gagnen Road, and County

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Road, um those are now a complete
four-way stop. That was another bad

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intersection. Had a lot of accidents. Um
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only been three accidents since January
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Um there were eight crashes from 2020 to
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So in a period of 5 years has been total
of 11.

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» Yeah.
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» I I honestly think it's something we
just we make note of it, keep it on our

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radar. It is a 35 mph zone through
there. So six rod does change over from

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45 to 35 about 9/10 of a mile going up
right after you get by myself and

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Tommy's place. Um
people people fly no different than any

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other road. So, um, I think we just make
it a concern and and keep it on the

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radar. If it becomes more of a problem,
then we readress it with maybe the

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blinking stop signs.
>> Are there thoughts on like is is there

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really the situation they don't think
that is enough power with the solar?

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» I mean, so I mean, you can always we
could look at removing trees and and

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that kind of stuff, but um, that was the
feedback that I received. I didn't

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actually drive out there and, you know,
do a lookie around. Um, those units do

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cost anywhere between $1,000 to $3,000 a
piece. And then there's battery

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maintenance and battery maintenance
doesn't work real well in main winters.

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That's the other part of that. So, you
create an expectation that there's going

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to be a light flashing and then that
light goes away. Do you then in turn

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create a different hazard? So, that's
why the chief also mentioned, you know,

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we would want to potentially look, you
would potentially look at engineering

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study done in that area. Um, and because
it's not a state road, you'd actually

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have to pay for that piece, whereas
usually we when it's on a state road, we

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ask them to do it and they fit us in
their schedule. Um, so I mean there are

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things that you could do,
will they work? Um, so the reflector

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piece that was done, so he is stating,
you know, that public works place stop

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signs on both sides at the end of 10
lots and Davis Road and added reflectors

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several years past. a clear downward
trend. Eight crashes from 20 to 22 with

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only three since 1123 which supports the
conclusion that the corrections reduced

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crashes. Next logical step would then in
the process would be to change the

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intersection to four-way or add solar
flashing stop and warning signs. So it'd

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be up to the council as to what you want
to do.

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» I know that in the roads I don't believe
it there it says stop ahead in the road.

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Would that make a big difference? Does
does it Tom?

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» Okay. Well, I believe both Davis and 10
lots, right, Tom?

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» Yep.
>> Y we've done a lot over the years to to

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prevent what's been happening. We've
added stop ahead signs on both sides of

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the roads as you approach it. Then you
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You have reflective. Sorry, [laughter]
>> he's new. Forgive him.

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» You also have the reflective strips that
we added and we cleared the ditches of

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brush and everything else. So, it's
quite a I mean, you I don't know if

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you're familiar with the Davis Road, but
as you round that corner, just before

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you round the corner, there's two stop
ahead signs right there. You have to be

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able to see them. And then as soon as
you round the corner, you can see both

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stop signs instead of just one stop
sign, which you normally have. So, we've

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done a lot over the past years to try to
prevent this. And my opinion, I think

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it's just driver and attention and
speed. Yeah.

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» Speed. Speed and attention. Absolutely.

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Thank you.
Any other discussion on that for now? Do

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you ask for just a department of
engineer uh department of

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transportation,
you know, review and on their on their

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schedule?
>> We can find out how much one would cost

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us.
>> That'd be great.

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» Yep. [clears throat]

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» Okay. Thank you. We'll move on. Uh item
two,

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» there was one more piece to that. It was
the other letter that you also got from

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the Department of Transportation that
was dated back in March. It was just a

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followup because there was a
conversation about the rumble strip that

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was on the Norwalk Road.
>> So, and in this letter, we had

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previously asked that rumble strips be
put in and we were denied

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» um but in um 2025, we did we had asked
for it again because they had done a

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2019 review um and did not show any
deficiencies in the highway signs or

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striping. The review did show the 50th
percentile speed of drivers was 57 miles

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per hour and 85th percentile speed was
62 miles per hour. As a result of that

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review, we also determined that this
segment of highway did not meet the

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threshold for installation of rumble
strips at that time. Since then, our

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threshold for the installation of rumble
strips has changed and promoted and

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prompted by your letter. I have worked
with our folks overseeing rumble strips

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and reached an agreement with the
installation of rumble strips that will

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be programmed in the Norwalk Road
anywhere the speed limit is 45 mph or

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greater from town line to town line in
those areas where the pavement

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conditions is sufficient to support
these effective safety features. So,

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it it may be that
the rumble strips that are there are not

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meeting folks expectations, but we were
lucky to get what we got because they

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had previously determined we weren't
even going to get those.

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So, I just wanted to follow up. I knew
we had gotten something and and I wanted

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to give this to you so that you had
that.

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» Those are in place. I drove out last
night. So, I I think that will make a

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difference. Again, it's more the
intersection where the old Melly Ranch

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is
>> um by by Pirate Lane just after that. I

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think that's where we're seeing all
these accidents. But again, it's

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» the road work has been done. Um the stop
ahead is is already on the ground. It's

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there. It's just driver in attention and
speed. They're blowing through a stop

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sign at the Melody Ranch. You're going
on another road. I I don't know what

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we're going to do to deter or stop that.
I saw a tractor trailer just missed a

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car about 20 ft the other morning. It
was just like just she pulled the person

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pulled right out. Uh yeah, just driving
her attention like oh my gosh. But yeah,

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it happens.
>> I mean it's odd that we see it at that

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intersection, but you've got a place on
the Culver Road. You know, Norwalk meets

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Kula Road the exact same way
>> and we don't see that at that

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intersection. So I think just people
coming off the back road from Scow

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Heaggan are not paying attention. and
they're just blowing through that stop.

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So,
>> was the original request though that we

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heard um I think I forget who it was
requested rumble strips going across the

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road. This letter is referring to center
line rumble strips.

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» Yeah. And they won't do those,
>> right?

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» They won't do those skeleagan on 2011.
They got straight in the middle of the

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road,
>> right? I effectively still using north

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as group one cranking.
>> They don't make a difference. Rumble

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strips don't make a difference.
>> I just I just wanted for for clarity to

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for closure that the request was that we
look into rumble strips going across the

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road and we know that's not going to
happen. I think they only use those for

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the approaching a stop.
>> They typically they use them like they

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have them at the approaches for the toll
booths and that kind of stuff to slow

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people down, but they won't they I don't
think that they will ever ever give you

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one for
>> No. in the back road. a 45 mph road. So,

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it's not going to meet their description
of of putting in rumble strips anyway,

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other than an actual stop light, which
still isn't going to stop them if

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they're not paying attention.
>> If you're on your cell phone and not

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paying attention,
whether you're watching a Tik Tok or

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talking to somebody or screaming at your
kid in the back seat, it it it has an

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impact on on everybody else around you.
So,

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» it happens.
I I'm happy we got the the median rumble

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strips and you know at least they're
paying attention. Not going to hit a

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semi coming at him at 60 mph in the
opposite direction.

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Okay. Well, thank you for those reports.
Um item two, the fire chief's truck has

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been leed by Davis Vinyl. I think we've
seen the pictures. Looks like

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» I actually saw it last night out there
and touched it. We actually had a tour

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of this truck last night.
Chief, are you happy with that?

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» Yep.
>> Abs. Absolutely.

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» Any other discussion?
>> Remove that.

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» Can we remove that off old business?
>> Yeah.

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» Uh item three, committee meeting
recordings.

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» Really haven't had any
>> no meeting

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» committees to record. It's okay.
>> We'll keep that for for next meeting.

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Seventh order of business to take action
on the following items of business. Item

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25-127.
Order that the town council hereby

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authorizes the town clerk to issue a
letter of approval to the Grover

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Hinckley American Legion Post 14 located
at 86 Main Street to operate Bingo Bino

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Games of Chance and Cribage for the
period of January 1st, 2026 to December

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31st, 2026.
>> So move

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» second. Motion by councel Lawrence,
second by councelor Tibido. Any

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discussion?
Seeing none. All those in favor?

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Unanimous. 5-0.
Item 25-128.

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Order that the Fairfield Town Council
hereby authorizes the town clerk to

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issue a letter of approval to the
Fairfield VFW Memorial Post 6924

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located at 246 Main Street to operate
Bingo Bino Games of Chance and Cribage

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for the period of January 1st, 2026 to
December 31st, 2026. So move

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» second.
>> Motion by council Lawrence, second by

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Council Tibido. Any discussion?
Seeing none, all those in favor?

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Unanimous. 50.
Item 25-129.

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Order that the town council hereby
adopts the animal housing contract for

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January 1st, 2026 through December 31st,
2027.

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» Second
>> motion by councelor Townson, second by

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council Lawrence.
discussion.

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» Michelle, did they go up on their costs?
The fee is exactly the same.

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» Yeah, the same.

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» Good question.
>> Any other discussion?

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» And we did, just so you're aware, just
for price comparison, did reach out to

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the Waterville Animal Shelter. Uh the
chief has reached out to them a couple

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of times and has received no response
from them. So,

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Any

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other comments or discussion? Seeing
none, all those in favor?

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Unanimous. 5-0.
[clears throat]

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Eighth order business. Council workshop
and other business discuss the RFP from

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the building committee.
Max Kenny, you have the four, please.

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» Michelle, did the council get the most
updated version? Yes, they did this

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afternoon.
>> Um, I jotted some notes down just so I

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make sure I hit all the points that I
wanted to. So, I'll read that. Um, and

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then at the end, we can certainly go
through the RFP in more detail if

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there's any questions from the council.
Uh, good evening, counselors. My name is

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Max Kenny. I'm the secretary of the
current Fairfield Building Committee and

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was nominated by the committee to
provide an overview to the council of

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the work completed to date and the
proposed request for proposals RFP and

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what work we hope to accomplish in 2026.
In the spring of 2024, the town's ad hoc

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building advisory committee completed
their work with a report that identified

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major deficiencies with the existing
police station, Lawrence Savire Station,

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and town office buildings. The committee
recommended the town employer service to

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evaluate upgrades to the existing
facilities or a potential new municipal

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complex.
In the in the summer of this year, the

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current building committee organized and
we toured the existing police station,

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the fire station, and town office
buildings. There was a number of new

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committee members, including myself,
that weren't on the prior building

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committee. So, we thought it was
important that we got to see um the

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items firsthand.
Um our findings were pretty eye opening

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and as one member put it, honestly,
pretty embarrassing.

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Uh common deficiencies identified by the
committee included lack of sec secure

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document storage space, outdated and
broken kitchen and bathroom facilities,

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insufficient parking, inefficient and
poor quality mechanical systems, sinking

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foundations, cracked walls, limited
space for current and future department

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operations, and what we found most
alarming was a complete lack of modern

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safety features in all of the buildings.
um especially for operations that are

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public facing like the all of our
departments are.

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Um believing that upgrades and/or
replacement of the existing buildings is

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necessary, the committee visited newly
constructed Scow Heaggan and Newport

415
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public safety facilities to review those
spaces and get some lessons learned. Um

416
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these tours were helpful and gave us an
idea of what is possible for Fairfield.

417
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Today we are asking the council for
support to issue an RFP entitled space

418
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:11,760
needs assessment and feasibility study
for a new municipal complex. The

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committee members recognize that we are
not qualified building professionals and

420
00:35:13,839 --> 00:35:19,760
recommend the town hire a qualified
engineering consultant to perform the

421
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:23,280
work outlined in the RFP. The RFP
includes details on the existing town

422
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:27,359
office, Lawrence Sav fire station and
police station. We have also included

423
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:31,920
design goals which are really a wish
list of facility components identified

424
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:37,040
by the department staff as priorities
for upgraded or new facilities. The

425
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:41,119
committee and staff are very aware that
not all of these design goals will come

426
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:45,200
to fruition, but our objective as part
of this RFP is to identify costs and

427
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,720
make cuts based upon the funding that we
achieve.

428
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The work required in this RFP is broken
down into seven strategic tasks that

429
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build on the work from each prior task.
Task one is an independent space needs

430
00:35:55,119 --> 00:36:00,640
assessment for the town office, police
and fire departments independent from

431
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:04,160
their existing as well as proposed
facilities. We want to know how much

432
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,119
space is actually needed for the current
and future operations of these

433
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departments.
Phase two is a phys physical assessment

434
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,640
of the existing buildings and
determination if they can be upgraded to

435
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:19,440
meet the current and future needs of the
departments. If they could be upgraded,

436
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:23,599
how much is that going to cost? Task
three. The committee reviewed potential

437
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:26,560
locations for a new municipal complex
and we all agreed that one industrial

438
00:36:25,359 --> 00:36:31,440
drive next to the public works
department is the most advantageous site

439
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:35,119
within our community. Task three seeks a
site evaluation to determine the

440
00:36:33,359 --> 00:36:39,200
feasibility of housing a new municipal
complex at that one industrial drive uh

441
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:43,520
location.
Task four is to develop a conceptual

442
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:47,359
design or to develop conceptual design
alternatives for a new municipal

443
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,800
complex. We are requesting design
alternatives that include one combined

444
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:55,040
building of all three departments as
well as separate buildings um to house

445
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:58,800
each or to house each each department
individually. This task also includes

446
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,720
cost estimates for the various
alternatives.

447
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,920
Task five is an ana is an alternatives
analysis to compare the options

448
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,920
including rehab of the existing
buildings, a new combined building or

449
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:13,280
new separate buildings. This step will
include a recommendation from the

450
00:37:11,359 --> 00:37:18,640
consultant on the best option for the
town to pursue based upon cost and

451
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:22,480
non-cost factors. Task six is determine
a funding strategy for the town to fund

452
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,760
the recommended approach. The committee
knows that grants will be key to

453
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:29,119
completing any proposed project. We want
to know from professionals who have

454
00:37:27,359 --> 00:37:33,359
experience obtain or supporting
communities in obtaining these grants

455
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:38,640
what are the best grants to go for and
how best to position our community. Task

456
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:43,200
seven is the last task is to determine
next steps and evaluate project delivery

457
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:46,880
strategies such as design build. With
the council's support, we hope to issue

458
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:51,359
this RFP to interested engineering and
architecture firms in early January with

459
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:55,680
proposals due in midFebruary.
Issuing this RFP and receiving proposals

460
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:59,599
does not tie the town to contracting
with any consultant and the proposal is

461
00:37:57,839 --> 00:38:04,160
written in a way to allow the town to
contract all work or complete the work

462
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:08,240
task by task. Based upon the town of
Fryberg's similar RFP issued in the

463
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:12,800
spring of 2023, we anticipate that the
cost of this work will be around $75,000

464
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:16,320
and have several interested consultants
submit proposals.

465
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:20,000
Once proposals are received, we will
review them as a committee and make a

466
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:24,000
recommendation to the council on what
tasks to complete and with which

467
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:27,760
consultant. We anticipate that all of
the work outlined in the RFP, if

468
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:31,200
awarded, would be completed by the end
of 2026. and I would welcome any

469
00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:35,920
questions that you have on the
committee's work to date or the RFP

470
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:40,960
itself.
>> Thank you, Madam Council T.

471
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:47,760
» Um,
in the RFP, will the air exchange or the

472
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:52,240
HVAC be addressed as well because that
was one of the discussion topics for the

473
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:55,920
old fire department was the air exchange
and making sure that that it's vented

474
00:38:54,960 --> 00:39:01,359
properly.
>> It certainly will be. We have uh we're

475
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:04,720
asking a consultant to review the
existing buildings and determine what

476
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:08,960
would be required to upgrade them to
meet current code and if as well as what

477
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:11,920
it would look like to build a new
complex and that certainly would have to

478
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:17,680
meet those new codes.
>> Okay. And also the counseling room that

479
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:22,640
was mentioned in the RFP is that a
shared counseling room between the fire

480
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:27,440
and police department or will there be
separate counseling rooms? In the design

481
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:32,880
goals, we had indicated that we would
like to have one large meeting room in

482
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:37,200
this new facility um which would act as
a training room for any department

483
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:42,160
within the town as well as it could host
council meetings in the future.

484
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:50,960
» Um
I know that the police have um

485
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:55,520
um Steve Donu that's there to help out
with counsel.

486
00:39:52,800 --> 00:40:00,079
» Yeah, thank you. chaplain.
And I was just wondering if there should

487
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:05,187
be a separate location where you could
have a private conversation

488
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:08,000
um and not feel like you're
[clears throat] in a big room or

489
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:13,119
invading other
>> Yeah, absolutely. In the design goals um

490
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:16,880
for the police department, there is a a
goal um not to say it will happen, but a

491
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:20,160
goal to have a small conference room for
up to six people.

492
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:23,040
» Okay. That's right. I did read. Um, and
just so you're aware, the chaplain

493
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:26,079
currently actually has hours that he
holds here in the small room at the

494
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,680
community center. Okay.
>> Um, he already has space that he does

495
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:33,839
currently use and it's here. So, it's
not just it's not tied to any one

496
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,880
particular department. So, staff from
all departments will feel comfortable

497
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:40,160
being able to visit [clears throat] with
him and not necessarily know that anyone

498
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,680
particular department knows who's going
and who's not. So, it's done for privacy

499
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:49,200
reasons. And [clears throat] then just
for one more piece, um the the

500
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:53,200
department heads and the town department
staff that created these bulleted wish

501
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:59,599
list pieces knew very much that they
were wish lists and knew very much that

502
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:02,800
as Max had mentioned that while we asked
each department wants a small conference

503
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:06,960
room, they understand that that may mean
that there's one small conference room

504
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:10,240
that that's these were all pieces of
shoot for the sky and see where it

505
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:14,000
lands.
>> Right. It really revolves around what

506
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:19,839
sort of funding the town can receive.
>> Definitely. So, as I was reading the the

507
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:24,400
the draft, it dawned on me that there's
no holding cell for the police

508
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:29,040
department. I know currently if you they
arrest somebody and they have to take

509
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:34,640
them up to Madison to the sheriff's
department. Um, but is that something

510
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:39,200
other police departments might have is
like a holding cell?

511
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:43,119
I don't believe we saw a holding cell at
on either scouting.

512
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:47,119
» They have they have intake rooms.
>> Um and usually either [clears throat]

513
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:50,640
there's there's an intake room where
they're processed.

514
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:54,160
» Um and then they know whether if they're
going to be bailed, they get bailed from

515
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,119
here or whether they go from here
straight to the jail.

516
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,520
» And those are noted in the RFP as two
booking rooms. That's what those were

517
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:09,520
called.
>> Okay. Um, and is the plan for

518
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:13,760
a multiple uh floors or a single floor
situation? What's the want?

519
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:17,119
» There are no plans right now. Um, we're
going to be looking for recommendations

520
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:21,359
from an architect or engineering company
to help us with what's the most cost

521
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:24,720
advantageous for the community.
>> All right, that that's all I have. Thank

522
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:29,119
you.
>> Mhm. Council Kitchen.

523
00:42:27,979 --> 00:42:31,839
[clears throat] First, I want to say
thanks to the committee for putting this

524
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:36,079
together. I thought it was very well
written. I do have a couple questions

525
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:41,599
though. Uh first and foremost, uh I
didn't get time to fully review the

526
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:46,240
final proposed draft uh RFP that we got.
>> It's very similar to what was presented.

527
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:48,720
» Is there any any changes in them
>> worthy of mention time frame? It was

528
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,720
just the time frame.
>> Okay. the time frame that we rolled out

529
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:58,160
and then there were in the the original
draft uh that council received um there

530
00:42:55,839 --> 00:43:02,960
were pieces such as number of employees
in each department that needed to be

531
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:08,480
refined because um one things that
municipalities do well is we don't have

532
00:43:05,359 --> 00:43:13,599
a tendency to reinvent a wheel. So this
proposal is very similar to the one that

533
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:16,800
Fryberg had. So those pieces were left
in as a placeholder for their discussion

534
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:21,280
at their meeting last night with the
department heads to ensure we had those

535
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:28,800
detailed pieces correct. Um there were
some minor spelling changes. There were

536
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:32,800
some requests in the original piece um
draft that you received that fell under

537
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:36,880
one department um that actually got
moved out and were put into the general

538
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:39,520
overall building description because
they found that it was while the fire

539
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:43,119
department wanted it and the police
department wanted it just better fit for

540
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:47,119
just an overall building piece
>> such as the wash bay for vehicles.

541
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:51,760
» Yeah. The wash bay, right? Because all
of our vehicles need to be washed. So

542
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:55,040
like the the PD side of garages wouldn't
necessarily need a wash bay for their

543
00:43:53,839 --> 00:43:58,960
vehicles and the fire department
wouldn't necessarily need a separate

544
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:04,160
wash bay and code enforcement also
washes their car. So we moved washbay

545
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,240
into the general building section as
opposed to an individual department.

546
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,960
Okay.
>> Um and then the timeline was completely

547
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:15,680
changed. Um [clears throat] originally
the projection was much further out.

548
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:21,040
This puts it back into being in January.
Um it does require uh folks to

549
00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:25,760
pre-register for the mandatory
presubmission meeting. Um and the reason

550
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:30,240
for the registration quite frankly is so
that because it is the winter months if

551
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:34,160
something was to happen or there was an
emergency we have the ability to contact

552
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:39,119
people who are planning to attend that
mandatory meeting with the rescheduling

553
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:42,800
piece. Um and then
>> we also added the a link to the building

554
00:44:41,839 --> 00:44:47,680
committee's website.
>> Yes. which would have the prior building

555
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:52,319
committee's report as well as some
technical documents such as the geotech

556
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:57,520
for the police station and then
>> the dear go the deargo reports and the

557
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:01,839
summit geotechnical engineering reports
for the police department and the fire

558
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:05,920
department that we had done in 24 um and
also the building committee's prior

559
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:10,319
report lives on that site so we added
that link to that portion of our website

560
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:15,119
so that they have access to all of that
data without having to put it all in the

561
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:18,160
RFP because it just makes it too large.
>> I think that's about it.

562
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:22,000
» And we we apologize for not getting a
more complete draft sooner, but our

563
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:26,079
meeting was last night. [laughter]
>> A couple other things, questions I have.

564
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:30,480
I didn't notice anything about and maybe
it was just in the language. Uh

565
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:34,880
homeowner assessment of I think we have
two or three residences right out in

566
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:36,160
front of that along Western A. How how
that would

567
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:40,720
» Well, that would be part of the site
assessment that would be completed. It

568
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:44,240
would look at environmental conditions,
neighborhood conditions, traffic flow,

569
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:52,341
all of that.
>> Okay. Um, and I noticed in the in the

570
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:56,880
meat of it, in the design goals
[cough and clears throat]

571
00:45:52,880 --> 00:46:00,720
for the complex, uh, in one spot you put
town council meetings, and another spot

572
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:07,680
you put committee meetings intended to
get citizen input. Um, in design goals

573
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:14,000
for the town office department, would it
be prudent to put uh at the end uh

574
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:18,240
council chambers or something similar to
that to accommodate the language of

575
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:22,160
council meetings, committee meetings,
etc. as mentioned later in the report?

576
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:26,079
» Absolutely. We talked about having
council meeting, committee meetings with

577
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:31,359
the consultant that would be hired as
sort of milestone check-ins and

578
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:36,400
presentations of their report. Um, as
far as actual physical space in the

579
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:45,319
overall
um, kind of building goals, we do have

580
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,319
uh, somewhere in here.

581
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,720
» It's like one of the last
>> it just says a small meeting room under

582
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:54,319
design goals.
>> There's another town office,

583
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:57,359
» right? So that was specific to the town
office like daily functions that

584
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:02,800
section.
>> Okay. for the larger kind of gathering,

585
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:08,160
emergency command center, police
department, training room, potential

586
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:12,560
count, town council location. That was
that was separate. That was a that we

587
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:16,800
envisioned as a larger room that could
house several [snorts] more people than

588
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:22,960
a small department meeting, which would
be in the smaller sixperson conference.

589
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:27,920
» Um, this may be split in hairs, but
police department. Uh let me start with

590
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:31,520
fire uh design goals for fire department
uh bathroom shower space dedicated to

591
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:36,880
fire department and the police
department male and female locker rooms.

592
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:39,280
Do we specify male and female uh
bathroom shower space for the fire

593
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,319
department?
>> We had anticipated that any

594
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:45,280
bathrooms/shower
space would be genderneutral

595
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:51,553
» would be what?
>> Gender neutral individual spaces.

596
00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:55,680
I only found one misspelling
[clears throat] under design goals for

597
00:47:53,359 --> 00:47:58,560
the police department. Two interview
rooms for the I'm assuming detective's

598
00:47:57,839 --> 00:48:04,319
office.
>> Oh, thank you.

599
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:08,079
There were more than that. [laughter]
>> I only got to get that.

600
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,119
» But we but we missed that one.
>> Yeah,

601
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:14,040
» you get a gold.
>> We'll fix that.

602
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,040
Uh,

603
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:23,760
and then
property information should be centrally

604
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:29,680
located to Fairfield and Benton. Uh, I
would just I know that we're going to be

605
00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:35,200
discussing EMS. Uh,
if Benton ever decides not to go, is

606
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:39,280
this primarily based upon uh Benton
remaining with with Fairfield Fire?

607
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:44,000
» It certainly is. Um, but we also
recognize that a a substantial

608
00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:48,319
percentage of our community is here in
the denser part of the community. Uh, so

609
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:52,720
we feel as though even if Benton were to
were to pull out sometime in the future,

610
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:57,720
having that kind of mindset of still
being closer to the town center makes

611
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:57,720
sense.

612
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:03,359
And
>> that's something that certainly a

613
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:09,839
consultant would help us help advise us
um and do some studies on response time

614
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:13,359
to the outskirts of Benton and the
outskirts of Fairfield based upon this

615
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:18,800
proposed location.
>> Uh and again lastly, uh I think you guys

616
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:22,800
did a great job writing this. Uh I read
through the draft. I did notice like the

617
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:27,040
days from March to February changed some
things like that. I'm very confident

618
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:31,200
with this and I would say that uh I
applaud you guys for even asking them to

619
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:35,359
consider upgrades to the existing
building spite uh sites so that our

620
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:40,800
taxpayers know that we're not just
looking you know to spend frivolously if

621
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:44,079
you know out of our pocket. We're asking
for the whole meal deal.

622
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:47,839
» Yeah, we certainly uh took that into
consideration and we we're aware that

623
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:51,440
sometimes retrofitting existing
buildings can be just as expensive as

624
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:55,119
building from scratch. Um so but we
think it's important data to have. We

625
00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:58,800
anticipate that some buildings may not
be even suitable for retrofit. I mean

626
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:03,760
the police station is experiencing
significant uh settling of their

627
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:06,720
foundation. So it's very very likely
that the police station will be

628
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:11,359
identified as a building that cannot be
retrofitted uh and that a new building

629
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:15,520
is required.
>> Thank you. I think you guys did a great

630
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:21,119
job with this. That's all I have. Tim,
>> just cuz I finally found the space. Um,

631
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:25,280
section 4, complex structure. First
paragraph, last sentence says, "The

632
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:29,200
committee desires the facility to have a
centrally located meeting room of

633
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:33,359
sufficient size for staff meetings, town
council meetings, and capabilities to

634
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:38,559
act as an emergency operations center."
>> Okay. Yeah, I missed that word.

635
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:41,200
» Complex, I knew it's in there somewhere.
>> Overall,

636
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:45,920
» there's a lot of information in here.
So, it's it's a it's a they're looking

637
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:50,800
for a lot. Now, we did put out prior
RFPs for our existing buildings before,

638
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,520
if I remember
>> for the repair of the existing

639
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,800
buildings, and we got no bids.
>> No bits. I just wanted to reiterate.

640
00:50:55,359 --> 00:51:00,559
» I asked that question last night, too.
>> This is a a very different request than

641
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:04,079
what we put out previously. We
anticipate that there'll be several

642
00:51:02,319 --> 00:51:08,400
firms very interested in working with
us.

643
00:51:05,839 --> 00:51:14,079
» Is there a cost factor at this point for
the town with the RFPs? There's no cost

644
00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:18,880
of putting out the RFP other than a
minimal cost for paying for its

645
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:24,079
advertisement in a newspaper of general
circulation. We typically use the town

646
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:30,559
line. Um, and it's it's minimal. It's
usually between $100 to $200 if that is

647
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:33,760
that. Um, and the reason why we are
definitely going to make sure we

648
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:40,079
advertise it that way is that oftentimes
with grant processes, um, a advert, uh,

649
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:45,839
RFP needs to be advertised in a public
newspaper in order to count. Um, our

650
00:51:43,359 --> 00:51:50,319
main goal actually is to ensure that it
gets on not just our website, but there

651
00:51:48,559 --> 00:51:54,400
is an RFP section for a municipal
association's website, which is where

652
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:59,520
the majority of the firms go to look for
these types of jobs, as well as we have

653
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:03,200
contract uh contacts with the
construction magazines. Um, and they

654
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:07,280
typically will pick those up and put
those out for us as well at no cost. So,

655
00:52:05,839 --> 00:52:10,800
that's our biggest goal.
>> Thank you.

656
00:52:09,359 --> 00:52:15,359
» I just want to say I think it's a great
report. I think it's a good first step.

657
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:18,480
It's going to get uh us keep the ball
rolling. I do like the aggressive

658
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:20,079
timeline.
So,

659
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:25,760
» yeah, we would hope that by the end of
2026, we have a recommended approach, a

660
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:28,160
funding strategy, and then 2027, we
could really look at trying to acquire

661
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:32,240
funding
>> and I do like the three-pronged approach

662
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,839
of looking at all options, whether it's,
you know, retrofitting, whether it's a

663
00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:39,359
campus with several buildings or one
single building. So, again, I appreciate

664
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,240
you and the hard work of the the
building committee.

665
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:47,680
I'm going to reiterate everybody just
said. You guys did a fantastic job. This

666
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:52,079
is well written, well done, well
thought. Council questions were

667
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:56,720
fantastic. I think other than the the
one grammatical error that Kevin found

668
00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:01,280
um with the timeline that we're looking
at. I know it's a discussion item. I'd

669
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:05,760
like to see us do an action right now.
If somebody wants to make a motion.

670
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:10,160
» I'll make a motion to accept
the space needs assessment and

671
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:15,200
feasibility study for a new Fairfield
MUN municipal complex RFP.

672
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:19,280
» Second.
>> I have a motion by council Tibido,

673
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:23,280
second by councelor Kitchen. Any other
discussion?

674
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:26,240
Seeing none, all those in favor?
>> Am I allowed to vote?

675
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:29,040
» Yes, absolutely.
>> 5-0.

676
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,960
» Thank you all.
>> Thank you, Max.

677
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,920
» Thanks, Max. Get this.
>> Council Lawrence is on that committee.

678
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:38,079
That's why he asked if he's allowed to
vote

679
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:42,800
» actually. Yep.
>> Okay. Item two, discuss amending the

680
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:50,839
road openings ordinances submitted by
interim public work director

681
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,839
Tom. Come on up.

682
00:53:53,440 --> 00:54:00,240
So, counselors, you have a memo in front
of you. Uh the current fee structure for

683
00:53:58,079 --> 00:54:07,680
openings made within the rightway is
currently at $50 and we've got a request

684
00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:14,559
to raise that to $75. Probably still
doesn't cover Tom's cost, but I think

685
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:21,680
it's a a reasonable request.
Any questions for

686
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:23,920
our interim public works director?
>> I do.

687
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:29,839
» Okay. [laughter]
Um you mentioned the costs um for the

688
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:33,440
paved surface, concrete surface and and
other surfaces,

689
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:40,680
» a curb replacement, driveway entrance.
It's it's all here. When was the last

690
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,680
time those were adjusted?

691
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,480
» That's a great question.
>> I don't have an answer for that.

692
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:49,920
» Um
>> because we're asking for um a

693
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:53,040
non-refundable fee of $75 dollar
payable.

694
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:58,000
» Yeah. Right. Right. Now, you get a
non-refundable fee of $50. The other the

695
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:01,440
other costs that are listed that gets
returned to the contractor

696
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:06,400
» after the work's been performed after
after so many days, it's it's in the um

697
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:10,400
» 90 days and then year.
>> So, all you really keep in the end is

698
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,640
the $50
>> or soon to be 75.

699
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:14,960
» Yeah.
>> Yes.

700
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:20,480
» All right.
>> Are you asking why it's not more?

701
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:25,760
» Well, I'm asking it. It seems like
you're a concrete surface. I don't know

702
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:30,079
how this all works. So, but that's $75
per square yard, but this is a

703
00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:34,079
contractor's
guideline of what you have to pay and

704
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:38,000
then it's reimbursed to
>> Yeah. What what happens is is I I have

705
00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:41,760
to go out and inspect the site and see
what they're digging up, take

706
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:46,319
measurements. Uh I have to figure out
what the cost to replace it is going to

707
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:50,799
be. I have to do the paperwork, fill it
out, and then they come in, they pay

708
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:54,000
this this fee that I come up with. And
then after that, you have to inspect

709
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:58,720
their work that they're doing. Make sure
it's compacted properly. And then for

710
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:02,799
the next 3 years, you have to monitor
the work to make sure there's no

711
00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:07,200
separation of the pavement or sinkage in
the road.

712
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:11,760
» Wow. $75 doesn't seem to be enough money
if you ask me.

713
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:14,480
» No, but I wouldn't mind seeing $100,
especially if you've got to go back for

714
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:18,480
3 years to check.
>> Yeah. You got to monitor the site three.

715
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:22,160
I mean, we've all driven across sites
that have been cut in the pavement and

716
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:25,359
you get that dip or whatever and you get
potholes. So, you have to keep an eye on

717
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:29,119
it. Make sure the pavement doesn't
separate and make sure it doesn't

718
00:56:26,799 --> 00:56:31,280
settle.
>> I'm with you.

719
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:35,599
I
>> you got three years for the contractor

720
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:41,200
to have to re repair the work. So,
>> no, I I think it should be $100. So that

721
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:44,960
fee schedule is more us recouping the
public works director's time that he has

722
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:51,040
to go out monitor measure.
>> And to me it it would you should be more

723
00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:54,720
than what you're charging for concrete
surface at $75 per square yard.

724
00:56:53,839 --> 00:56:59,520
» Michelle go ahead.
>> Okay. So uh those fees were last done

725
00:56:56,799 --> 00:57:03,359
when you updated this ordinance in 2011.
Th those fees that you asked about for

726
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:07,040
the various different pieces. The
biggest reason this exists and when we

727
00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:11,920
put in I think in 2011 is actually when
we adopted this period um was its

728
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:16,160
initial adoption. It's mostly to keep it
so that the municipality is not on the

729
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:20,880
hook for the work that has to be done by
a contractor to get into the road. It's

730
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:24,799
also not designed to be so expensive
that it's cost prohibitive and

731
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:29,520
interferes with the development. We're
not doing it to add additional cost. Um

732
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:33,599
what we're doing is trying to make sure
we protect the municipality's interest

733
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:37,839
which is why the funds get reimbursed
back to the contractor when the job is

734
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:42,240
satisfactorily done and completed and
over time it's fine but they are

735
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:46,960
required to care we they are required to
honor it for the course of the three

736
00:57:43,839 --> 00:57:51,520
years. So this fee is strictly for um at
time the the public works director wrote

737
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:56,000
commissioner's work to do the
preliminary investigation the tally

738
00:57:53,760 --> 00:58:00,960
sheets for the costs associated and the
inspections afterwards which is why yes

739
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:04,880
50 was not enough and going to 75 we can
easily put that to 100. The other thing

740
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:09,839
we could do, because this is subject to
a public hearing anyway, so it's not a

741
00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:12,720
decision you would make tonight. Um, and
chances are a public hearing for this

742
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:17,119
isn't going to come to you until
probably the end of January, beginning

743
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:20,079
of February. We have some other pieces.
This is just one that was done early and

744
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:23,200
relatively simple. We got it in front of
you tonight. If you wanted us to go

745
00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:28,559
forward, we can take a look at those
other pieces and see how far outside

746
00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:32,480
they are of the current cost because
costs have gone up considerably since

747
00:58:30,319 --> 00:58:35,920
2011. and the amounts that are here may
not actually be protecting the

748
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:39,040
municipality's interest. And we can look
at those other things too at the same

749
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,520
» I think that would be very advantageous.
Yeah.

750
00:58:39,359 --> 00:58:43,680
» And I would part of our fee schedule.
>> Yes. The rest.

751
00:58:42,319 --> 00:58:46,319
» Yes. And that's the other piece too is
we want to pull this out and make it

752
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:51,200
part of your fee schedule.
>> Yeah. Cuz right now estates

753
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:54,000
review the ordinance. There's no actual
fee schedule

754
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:57,599
» on the fee schedule. I guess
>> I mean it's been 15 years since it's

755
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,599
been reviewed. It's it's time. It's
time.

756
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:04,240
» I I'd like to see you.
>> 2011 can't be the last time we did this.

757
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:07,280
I wasn't here in 2011 and we redid this
since I've been.

758
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:14,480
» It was adopted in 2011, but the only
thing that changed was 2016 and that was

759
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:18,559
the driveway entrance. It was up to $35.
We'll have to look at that.

760
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,440
» But they get all that back, don't they?
>> Yeah. Yeah.

761
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:22,720
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

762
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:27,680
» So, as I understand, the way I read it,
there's two different things here. He's

763
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:34,319
he's asking to change the non-refundable
deposit from $50 to $75. That's the only

764
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:38,799
fee. What we're asking is are the other
charges per square yard adequate to go

765
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:42,640
along with that.
>> So that will come up in our fee schedule

766
00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:46,319
when we discuss our fee schedules. No
different than [clears throat] parking

767
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:51,280
tickets and so on.
We just need to suggest that we make a a

768
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:55,760
view a review that these paved surface
concrete that you know the price per

769
00:59:53,359 --> 00:59:59,520
square yard is actually where it should
be and will have to give us that

770
00:59:58,079 --> 01:00:02,160
information before we can make that
judgment.

771
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:06,160
» Your fee schedule you usually go over
and readopt during your first

772
01:00:04,079 --> 01:00:10,000
organizational meeting. This will come
with a public hearing afterwards with a

773
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:14,400
stipulation when you do the ordinance
amendment that the fees be moved to your

774
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:18,240
fee schedule and and we'll be able to do
that. They won't be part of your initial

775
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:22,000
review cuz they're not in there yet. But
yeah, we can do that easy.

776
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:26,640
» Okay. So, we're we're talking about
potentially moving this fee schedule out

777
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,960
of this ordinance onto the fee schedule.
>> Yes.

778
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:32,880
» Okay, that makes sense to me.
>> I think it we're going to review whether

779
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:39,680
these fees that are in here for these
types of surfaces are current enough to

780
01:00:35,599 --> 01:00:43,359
cover associated costs.
Because basically if a contractor comes

781
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,280
in and rips up the road and doesn't put
it back, we have to,

782
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:49,119
» right?
>> So we need to know we have the money on

783
01:00:46,799 --> 01:00:53,599
hand to cover that cost.
>> And and it's a just a deposit. So when

784
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:56,559
the work's done, we reimburse to them.
>> So

785
01:00:54,240 --> 01:01:01,680
» no different. Yeah.
>> So uh are we in agreement to amend that

786
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:03,440
to $100 all a non-refundable fee?
>> I I agree to it.

787
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:07,960
» All right.
>> Okay. Thank you.

788
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,960
» Adjustment as well.

789
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:18,240
Hey, item three, discuss Fairfield
Benton emergency transport. So, I asked

790
01:01:14,079 --> 01:01:23,680
to put this on as a discussion item. Um,
council also

791
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:29,040
got an email Sunday the 14th from Delta
again. Um,

792
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:34,160
nothing new really from
what Delta has been talking about four

793
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:42,799
or five times already this year.
Um, but I I would like I I'd asked to

794
01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:46,880
get a cost to see what it would cost
for us to license as a transport

795
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:52,319
service. Not to say we're going to do
transport, just to get the process

796
01:01:49,359 --> 01:01:55,920
started, much like China has done. So,
Travis, do you have an update on the

797
01:01:54,400 --> 01:02:00,559
cost for
>> getting a transport license?

798
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:04,640
» So, um, to to actually get the license
itself, the cost is is minimal. There's

799
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:09,680
a service license fee of $100 through
the state of Maine and then a vehicle

800
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:15,760
license fee of $60 uh per vehicle that's
licensed. Um the where the other cost

801
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:19,520
would come in would be um the equipment.
Um you know, if we're going to do

802
01:02:17,359 --> 01:02:24,799
full-time transport, the cost of the
second ambulance would need to be

803
01:02:20,799 --> 01:02:28,720
included. The cost of that equipment um
um and then you have to get into the

804
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:34,319
billing process. So cost to start a
billing contract with the service. um

805
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:38,880
those initial startup fees. Um those are
the the kind of the you know the unknown

806
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:41,520
costs at this point basically. Um
without sitting down and figuring out

807
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:46,480
what we're going to get for a second
vehicle. Uh we would have to you know do

808
01:02:44,319 --> 01:02:51,599
either an RFP for billing services or
research area business you know uh

809
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:57,760
billing services to get a idea of what
their percentage rates are right now. um

810
01:02:54,640 --> 01:03:01,920
typically it's 6% of your billables um
or your return but um that could

811
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:09,520
fluctuate you know a couple percentages
here or there. So, so overall um to do a

812
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:16,240
uh like a China based uh temporary
license um whereas we would transport in

813
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:21,119
the event that Delta is not available um
uh that wouldn't um basically would just

814
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:25,839
the cost of the license upgrade and the
service license. Um, we have the

815
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:29,599
equipment. Um, obviously doing on a
temporary basis, we wouldn't need the

816
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:33,839
second ambulance because it would, you
know, we're just doing it on an as

817
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:36,079
needed basis if Delta's not available.
>> How often does that happen? Now, not to

818
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,400
cut you off.
>> No,

819
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:42,079
» but how often does that happen
currently?

820
01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:46,880
» Um, I I I'd have to go through Delta's
reports, but I would say they um it's

821
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:53,359
it's probably less than half a dozen
times um when they do a quarterly

822
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:55,920
report. So, so it's it's it wouldn't be
a ton. Um,

823
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:59,200
» half a dozen quarterly.
>> Yeah, half a dozen quarterly. That seems

824
01:03:57,599 --> 01:04:03,039
to be their average going back through
their their quarterly reports of how

825
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:07,039
many times they have to call mutual aid.
So, um I I would say at this point um

826
01:04:06,079 --> 01:04:13,440
you know
>> maybe maybe on the high end 30 a year

827
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:15,359
maybe. Um um
>> but we but without looking at the

828
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,880
numbers
>> or we could ask you to get a temporary

829
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:22,559
license in the event of those cases.
>> Yeah, sure. Yep. Yep. that's something

830
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:26,640
that we can pursue. Um, again, you know,
it it it's time consuming. The

831
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:30,559
time-consuming part comes with with the
billing, getting a billing contract set

832
01:04:28,319 --> 01:04:34,880
up, um, getting validated with [cough]
Medicare, main care, that would all be

833
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:38,960
helped through the billing process. Um,
so there's a lot of steps that would

834
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:42,160
have to be taken. Um, and it's just time
consuming cuz you're relying on, you

835
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:46,079
know, you have to go through through
Medicaid, you have to um, so it's kind

836
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:50,559
of you're out there at liberty at that
point. Um, but but to get the license

837
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:54,480
itself, cost is minimal. Like I said, to
do it full-time, there would be

838
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:59,599
additional cost of the extra the extra
vehicles, the staff, uh the equipment,

839
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:01,599
that type of stuff. Does that answer?
>> Yeah. No, absolutely.

840
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:07,520
» You're going through.
>> So, for for council, um [clears throat]

841
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:12,559
I've given you an extra a note sheet
that I did from we've met with Delta

842
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:17,599
several times and last meeting we had
Dr. Pay do a report that Travis asked

843
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:21,280
for years ago, am I?
>> Yeah, a couple years ago. a couple years

844
01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:26,720
ago. Okay. And they finally
>> came in. So in se we've had Delta in

845
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:30,960
here at least a couple times.
>> They had meetings in September. We've

846
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:35,440
only been on council for 12 months now.
So this is an issue that it's at their

847
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:41,280
foresight and they keep bringing this up
and they keep sending it. Um, yes, I I

848
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:44,559
think we need to do our due diligence
and be prepared for what's in the best

849
01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:51,760
interest of our taxpayers and our
citizens. When we put out um a second

850
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:56,079
war article asking for additional fire,
it was overwhelmingly this is a service

851
01:05:53,760 --> 01:06:00,160
that our that our people want. So, I
made some notes for you just to go

852
01:05:57,599 --> 01:06:08,079
through and then I also included some of
the paperwork from the KVMS report. So

853
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:13,760
um from what Delta has given us with
with the September meeting notes that we

854
01:06:10,799 --> 01:06:19,760
were held in in this packet along with
our prior email for for this meeting. Um

855
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:26,079
Fairfield and Benton make up 22.1% of
the population of Del Delta service

856
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:30,400
area. That's on page 22 of the KV EMS
report. And you'll you'll see um the

857
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:36,480
actual population of Delta. They're
showing 41,769.

858
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:41,839
Fairfield and Benton are 9,234.
I believe that's on 2020 census is where

859
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:45,680
they get those numbers derived from. Um,
so that's that's where I'm getting the

860
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:52,319
22.1%
of Delta's servicing area. Now,

861
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:59,599
Fairfield Benton is 32.1% of Delta's
insurance revenue and 28.2% of their

862
01:06:55,680 --> 01:07:04,880
total revenue. also on page 22 of that
KVMS report. So you can see that the

863
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:10,559
reason we keep getting all these letters
and and concern is we drive a very big

864
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:15,200
portion of Delta's revenue.
>> Now Delta charges us a per capita fee

865
01:07:13,119 --> 01:07:20,640
not only for Fairfield but also Benton.
We're a combined service. They like to

866
01:07:17,359 --> 01:07:26,720
separate it. We bill Benton for their
percentage of calls as far as our our

867
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:31,839
combined fire department um contract.
So I always want to combine Fairfield

868
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:37,200
Benton because we are one EMS service
and we would hope to do if we move

869
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:43,039
forward to do this with Benton. So again
th those are your numbers. Um Fairfield

870
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:49,839
Benton according [clears throat] to the
again the EMS report had 1453 EMS calls

871
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:57,440
in 2024.
um that is on page 10 of that EVS report

872
01:07:53,680 --> 01:08:02,640
and that generated a 13% or they
estimate a 13% lap in coverage over

873
01:08:00,559 --> 01:08:07,200
calls which
um Chief Larry actually just reiterated

874
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:13,359
it's going to probably be about 10 to
13%. We we estimate 30 calls that they

875
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:19,040
can't get to. I have a concern with that
where we have a contracted service with

876
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:23,679
a monopoly private entity that charges
us a per capita. It's not an RFP. It's

877
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:30,799
not something we can put out for request
to bid. It's basically a no bid contract

878
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:36,080
that we have no say over. So in in 2022,
we were paying zero for the service just

879
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:42,480
like we were for the past 40, 50 years,
whatever Delta's been in in business

880
01:08:37,839 --> 01:08:50,719
for. 2023 we incurred our first 15% a
$15 per capita fee that [clears throat]

881
01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:55,920
went up to $25 in 2024. This year 2526
has moved to 35. The September meeting

882
01:08:53,279 --> 01:09:03,359
that Michelle and Peter attended it was
mentioned 55 to 65. So again, these are

883
01:08:59,679 --> 01:09:09,839
costs that we cannot control. And now
they may be telling 48 it who knows who

884
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:14,000
knows what it's going to be. The reports
showing an average of $30 and that's

885
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:19,600
because
we use our fiscal period of July 1st. So

886
01:09:16,719 --> 01:09:23,920
what our contract is July 1st through
June 30th and it's at 35 per capita. So

887
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:31,040
that's where I'm getting those numbers
from. Um, Fairfield Benton

888
01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:36,719
according to the EMS report in 24 on
page 11 had 363

889
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:43,120
requiring calls of a paramedic.
So again, Travis, correct me if I'm

890
01:09:39,759 --> 01:09:48,400
wrong. We go to an EMS call. We have
paramedics on staff already. They're

891
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:52,319
already servicing people until Delta
shows up to transport. We just simply

892
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,920
don't do the transport.
>> Am I correct?

893
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:58,719
» Yeah. No, correct.
>> Okay. Yeah.

894
01:09:55,280 --> 01:10:05,280
» So, Delta sent a letter in September of
25 this year and it said in that letter

895
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:10,719
um on page two of that September letter
that we have that Fairfield Benton

896
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:19,920
averages 40 paramedic calls per month or
492 calls per year. Yet, the report from

897
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:24,239
the EFS shows 363 calls or an average of
30 per month.

898
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:31,600
So, if we average 30 per per month that
require a paramedic and we're getting 25

899
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:38,553
or so calls for no show on a contract
that we're paying to show up for every

900
01:10:33,679 --> 01:10:42,400
call, I have a problem with that.
[clears throat] Delta's per capita cost

901
01:10:40,159 --> 01:10:48,159
of Fairfield Benton. We went through it
already. Um, so my interesting notes

902
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:52,400
when I was looking on Delta's website is
their service area for Waterville. Their

903
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:56,719
their Waterville office covers Albian,
Belgrade, Benton, China, Fairfield,

904
01:10:54,400 --> 01:11:02,400
Oakland, Rome, Sydney, Smithfield,
Basselboro. Approximate population of

905
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:08,640
those towns is 363.
Delta also covers an Augusta. They have

906
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:13,040
an Augusta uh office and service as well
that covers the towns of Augusta on a

907
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:18,000
special call basis. Belgrade, China,
Rome, Sydney, Smithfield, Somerville,

908
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:22,440
Vasserboro, Whitefield, Windsor.
Approximate population is 24,500.

909
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:30,159
With those two servicing areas, they
overlap coverage for certain towns,

910
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:35,840
Belgrade, China, Rome, Sydney,
Smithfield, Bassboro. Populations

911
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:40,239
roughly 18,900.
But there are towns that only are

912
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:44,000
serviced by either one garage or the
other which include Albian, Benton,

913
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:49,040
Fairfield, Oakland, Somerville,
Whitefield, and Winslow. So my question

914
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:52,719
would be, do those towns get a
discounted price where they don't have

915
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:57,920
overlapping coverage? Is that why we're
not having 25 to 30 of our calls not not

916
01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:03,440
being covered? Because we're paying the
same per capita cost that all these

917
01:12:00,159 --> 01:12:07,440
other towns are paying.
So

918
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:13,440
everything we get from Delta is
conflicting information. EMS report

919
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:19,360
shows different than the letters that we
receive. The numbers change all the

920
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:26,239
time. What we do know now is Delta
revenue for insurance billing is 620,000

921
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:33,760
through March of 2025.
not not through 25 which is a 10.1%

922
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:39,920
increase over 2024. So again Fairfield
Benton are 22% of Delta's calls of their

923
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:47,040
population based where over 30% of their
revenue and our per capita costs are

924
01:12:43,199 --> 01:12:51,520
going to go up again this July. I would
like us to be in a position where we

925
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:57,840
have set numbers. We're getting into
budget budget season that we can give

926
01:12:54,719 --> 01:13:01,679
chief some direction on on asking what's
it going to cost for the service. Yes,

927
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:06,880
we know if we go to it, we need a second
ambulance. That's an expensive cost. We

928
01:13:04,239 --> 01:13:12,320
know that we need an additional 2.25
people cuz we currently employ 10. We

929
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:16,640
need to get to 12. If we get to 12, that
covers what we need for the audit for

930
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:20,960
the fire department, which is the four
in four out rule. So when they show up

931
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:26,480
for a fire call, we're fully staffed. We
currently have three and four on Monday

932
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:34,000
through Friday with a 40-hour position.
So we could we could easily get to 12 by

933
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:39,120
adding 2.25 personnel, a little over
300, $350,000.

934
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:43,840
We go to a full transport service, and
I'm not saying right now, but if we go

935
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:49,600
to a full transport service, as Travis
just said, he needs time to figure out

936
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:54,320
billing. uh mutual aid
from the other towns which which we

937
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:58,480
already do for fire, but they need to be
set up and and done. The letters that

938
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:01,120
we've received for Delta, they there's
some that

939
01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:05,199
» will say, "Well, if you do a mutual
partner with us, and we don't send a

940
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:11,280
paramedic, we're going to pay you $300
per call and we'll use your paramedics."

941
01:14:09,679 --> 01:14:16,400
Why would they ever send a paramedic if
we have one?

942
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:20,080
They're going to pay us 150 grand on an
estimated amount of calls that doesn't

943
01:14:18,159 --> 01:14:27,040
exist because we know the actual calls
are 363 that require a paramedic.

944
01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:31,679
I I'm just tired of of dealing every
month or every other month with a new

945
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:35,280
number, a new proposal.
Um

946
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:40,239
they're a private entity. It's not up to
me to worry about how their business

947
01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:44,800
runs or how it operates. But they charge
us a set fee per capita. They charge us

948
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:50,560
a service that our citizens rely on
heavily. We want we want paramedic

949
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:54,320
service. We want rescue service. We need
transport service.

950
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:58,719
We have so many numbers in front of us
they become convoluted. But in the end,

951
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:04,960
what we can look at is we're going to
pay X amount per capita at roughly

952
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:10,239
10,000 people. At 55 bucks ahead, it's
going to be somewhere around $500,000 a

953
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:16,480
year. We're around 9,200 people combined
with Benton and the revenue that they

954
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:21,920
generate is roughly $620,000.
There will be some fees to go along with

955
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:26,960
that 6% billing whatever whatever gets
worked out. We need to get those

956
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:34,080
finalized numbers, but in the end it's
generating or costing about $1.1 to $1.2

957
01:15:30,719 --> 01:15:39,280
million to transport
Fairfield Benton residents. we can do it

958
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:45,040
for that or less. So, I would like
council

959
01:15:41,679 --> 01:15:49,679
to allow Travis to get the uh temporary
license for transport to start the

960
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:55,760
process. Doesn't mean that we'll that we
will transport. Does it mean that in

961
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:59,360
June or July, whatever comes around that
we're going to push this? But it puts us

962
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:06,320
in a position where if Delta comes in
and says your per capita is 75 or 80 or

963
01:16:02,719 --> 01:16:11,120
100, and we have no say and no control,
it gives us the opportunity to say,

964
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:18,320
"Okay, we we buy another ambulance at
185, we hire two more staff at 300, we

965
01:16:14,719 --> 01:16:23,040
invest another four or $500,000,
and we save 1.2 2 million

966
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:28,480
» in a couple of years,
>> maybe 6 months, maybe a year. I don't I

967
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:32,080
don't know. It's all It doesn't It's
going to take time.

968
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:36,400
» You know, maybe if we decide we do it
this year, we still have to contract

969
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:40,400
with Delta for 6 months. I don't know
what the transition period will may be.

970
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:45,600
Chief Larry will tell us that and we'll
trust him on that. Um, but I would like

971
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:48,800
us to at least get that temporary
transport license if it's minimal, if

972
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,920
it's really only a couple hundred
dollars.

973
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:56,800
and allows us to not worry about those
30 people that aren't going to get

974
01:16:54,400 --> 01:17:03,360
transported this year.
>> Well, I I did a pros and cons list after

975
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:11,360
I saw this on the agenda.
>> Um for an intermittent transport permit,

976
01:17:08,239 --> 01:17:16,320
uh for the pros available, um we'd be
available to assist with mutual aid.

977
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:20,159
We'd be able to transport our own
residents.

978
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:25,120
We'd utilize the vehicle to its full
potential.

979
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:31,920
Um, paramedics would be used for what
they were trained for. The cons,

980
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:35,840
and I'm sure there's more. I I This is
>> No, it's a good

981
01:17:32,719 --> 01:17:39,520
» I did. It's only one ambulance. So, when
in use,

982
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:43,280
it's not able to go to another
emergency.

983
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:45,040
» So, but then that's happening now
anyways. Correct.

984
01:17:44,719 --> 01:17:51,440
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. and then you have mutual aid. Um

985
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:55,199
there would be more wear and tear on the
vehicle.

986
01:17:53,040 --> 01:18:00,640
The paramedic would not be available to
do another call. Um yeah, I think that

987
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:07,280
happens sometimes now because a
paramedic has to go to with Delta to the

988
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:13,920
hospital. So it's it's time consuming.
Um there would be an increased expense

989
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:17,120
for supplies because of more usage. Uh I
and again

990
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:19,840
» hold on on that one. Would there be an
increase in supplies or are already

991
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:24,400
using our supplies?
>> If we did start doing some transporting,

992
01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:29,120
we would utilize probably a little bit
more supplies. Um I don't think it would

993
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:33,600
be a substantial cost, but um but you
know, trans, you know, if especially if

994
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:37,040
we say we transport to Augusta, we may
use extra supplies that we wouldn't have

995
01:18:35,679 --> 01:18:41,360
used if we were just, you know,
non-transporting that call. Um if that

996
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:45,120
makes sense. But but I don't think it
would be a large call. But it's minimal

997
01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:48,719
» full-time transport, you know, doing the
full-time transport, then yes, our our

998
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:53,360
medical supply budget would probably
triple.

999
01:18:50,719 --> 01:18:56,880
» So, and again, if we are going to be
doing transporting, who's going to do

1000
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:59,120
the billing,
>> right? Yeah.

1001
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:02,000
» You know, that needs to be worked out.
And of course, we'd need to have more

1002
01:19:00,719 --> 01:19:09,199
staff.
>> Um, I think it's a good idea to go and

1003
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:12,400
get the intermittent um trans. Is it
intermittent or tren?

1004
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:16,320
» So I so I've been doing a lot of
research on main and mass and they don't

1005
01:19:14,159 --> 01:19:20,159
really define it. Um so I'm still
waiting on some clarification but in

1006
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:24,800
essence there's a couple different
models. Um Albian fire for example does

1007
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:29,360
uh they have an agreement with Delta
that if there's a rescue call in Albian

1008
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:33,840
um Albian does some PDM coverage now
Monday, Wednesday, Friday I believe.

1009
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:38,800
Don't quote me on that. Um so if if
Albian gets a call and they have two

1010
01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:42,719
people available um it's an agreement
with Delta that they will cancel Delta

1011
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,400
at that point and they will do the call
and transport

1012
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,440
» and we could have
>> but Delta still gets dispatched every

1013
01:19:46,480 --> 01:19:50,880
single call
>> really.

1014
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:55,440
» Um so in our case I you know I think we
would start with if Delta's unavailable

1015
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:59,280
in essence we would be Delta's first
mutual aid choice instead of them

1016
01:19:57,440 --> 01:20:02,000
calling Waterville Winslow Clinton
>> for our town.

1017
01:20:00,159 --> 01:20:05,280
» Yeah. for our town, then they would call
us, you know, say, "Hey, we're

1018
01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:08,560
unavailable. You guys are going to have
to transport this call." And if we have

1019
01:20:06,719 --> 01:20:13,920
the staff and the resources available,
we would we would do that. Um I I I

1020
01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:19,360
don't know. Um I'd have to get
clarification on whether or not we could

1021
01:20:16,480 --> 01:20:22,880
go mutual aid and transport. This may be
limited to Fairfield and Benton, but I I

1022
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:27,120
have to clarify that.
>> All right.

1023
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:31,760
» So, it to me it's a step in the right
direction. We're being proactive by

1024
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:36,880
getting that intermittent transport
permit. It in case an emergency, we're

1025
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:40,400
covered.
>> Sure.

1026
01:20:37,679 --> 01:20:44,480
» I think it's a good idea and it will
give us some time to iron out some more

1027
01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:50,320
details. I know that there's been talk
about the paramedic intercept program.

1028
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:55,679
» Um, from what Delta has supplied us for
information, I like the basic idea of

1029
01:20:53,120 --> 01:21:01,679
it. Um, I think it's worthwhile,
especially if we take a look at mutual

1030
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:07,199
aid in all of our areas. Um, we'd be
functioning more as a a district. And I

1031
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:12,960
really like that idea. So, I'm in favor
of the chief going for um the

1032
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:14,880
intermittent transport permit. And and
like I said, this will be a

1033
01:21:13,911 --> 01:21:18,640
[clears throat] this will be a rather
lengthy process, but at least if we can

1034
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:22,159
start in that direction and and start
those, you know, start rolling in that

1035
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:25,920
direction and and we can narrow things
down and gather up gather up the

1036
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:28,960
information. Yes.
>> Yep.

1037
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:31,120
» So, when you say lengthy process, what
does that mean?

1038
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:35,760
» I don't know to be honest with you.
Again, we're at the mercy of um we have

1039
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:39,600
to do we have to find a billing service.
Um we'd have to enter into a contract

1040
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:44,880
with them. I would assume there'll be a
startup cost to that. Um so so you know

1041
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:49,440
we're going to essentially have a
startup cost with no revenue coming in

1042
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:52,880
to offset that. Um so that's going to
have to be whether or not we have the

1043
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:56,800
budget for that. Um that's going to have
to be looked at. Um, and then we're at

1044
01:21:55,199 --> 01:22:03,199
we have to get validated through
Medicare, main care, and with the state

1045
01:22:00,639 --> 01:22:07,360
of the federal government right now.
That could that could take months,

1046
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:10,880
» but that's with a different kind of
permit, right? That is

1047
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:15,840
» it's just so you have to be you have to
be um set up in the Medicare system to

1048
01:22:13,440 --> 01:22:20,560
to bill a Medicare patient and receive
that funds back to get reimbursed. Um

1049
01:22:18,639 --> 01:22:24,320
you can't just you can't just bill a
patient um and they cut you a check.

1050
01:22:22,719 --> 01:22:27,280
that there's a there's a whole process
that has to be done with and and the

1051
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:30,239
billing company would assist us with
that and setting all that stuff up.

1052
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:33,840
» Would you have to do that with the
intermittent transport permit?

1053
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:37,280
» Yeah, cuz if we if we transport then we
have to bill for those services. So

1054
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:42,000
what's the difference between having an
intermittent

1055
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:47,600
whatever the verbiage is and a regular?
>> So so there it's a different process. Um

1056
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:53,199
if we were going to take over
essentially uh Fairfield and Benton for

1057
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:57,520
transport um Delta currently is the
primary transport for Fairfield and

1058
01:22:55,120 --> 01:23:02,080
Benton. So in essence, you have to apply
for that and you have to make your case

1059
01:22:59,920 --> 01:23:08,480
and appeal to the state of Maine that
that um Fairfield Benton Fire Department

1060
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:14,480
can enhance that service by taking that
over. Um so they look at you have to you

1061
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:17,600
have to go through your response times.
Um there's a whole host.

1062
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:20,880
» So this would be the first step in
proving that data.

1063
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:26,000
» Yeah. Absolutely. Yep. Yep. So,
initially

1064
01:23:22,719 --> 01:23:32,400
to the council, I mean,
initially hearing this, I I would say

1065
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:36,159
no. Um, only because I have so many
questions going. I haven't read this

1066
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:41,360
yet. I haven't had time to take this. I
don't know what questions to ask. I

1067
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:47,360
don't know. Um, okay, we get that we
that comes back. What is the what is the

1068
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:51,520
swap process on that? How do we get here
from there? who says, "Okay, the license

1069
01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:55,600
came in the mail today. We're going to
start doing it tomorrow." What is that?

1070
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:59,520
What's that process look for like for us
as a council to say, "Okay, yeah, go. It

1071
01:23:58,159 --> 01:24:02,560
might take a couple months. It might
come back quicker or longer." What do we

1072
01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:06,480
do in the meantime? Just let them do
that. Or we say, "Yeah, go ahead. You

1073
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:09,360
get your license, start transporting." I
feel uncomfortable with that because of

1074
01:24:08,639 --> 01:24:14,080
all the different
>> That's not what I'm asking for. I'm

1075
01:24:11,199 --> 01:24:18,480
asking to get that intermittent license
started so we can get the pieces in

1076
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:22,880
place. What's the billing going to cost?
What's the training? What's what's the

1077
01:24:20,159 --> 01:24:28,480
time period? So that when we do come
down to having to make that decision to

1078
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:31,520
actually transport, we can make the
right inform.

1079
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:34,560
» So we need that data before we make that
decision.

1080
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:37,520
» I think it's going to force it. Yeah.
>> Michelle,

1081
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:42,080
» so I think you have to think about this
as being the first step in a very long

1082
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:46,080
process and continued conversation,
although you kind of took that first

1083
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:50,560
step a long time ago. Um these are all
pieces in which would not happen in a

1084
01:24:48,239 --> 01:24:55,040
vacuum and they would have to be happen
with council, right? So a contract for

1085
01:24:52,480 --> 01:25:00,560
billing services more than likely is
going to require council approval. Um

1086
01:24:58,239 --> 01:25:08,159
but what the chief is trying to explain
to you is that this is not a process in

1087
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:12,000
which so so Delta right now has to by
contract give us 30 days notice that

1088
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:15,840
they're no longer coming. Mhm.
>> We would never ever be ready to take

1089
01:25:14,159 --> 01:25:19,520
this on in 30 days.
>> I understand.

1090
01:25:16,639 --> 01:25:23,920
» Okay. So, but what we're not going to do
because of the work that is involved in

1091
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:27,760
all of this is just go randomly doing it
without the council saying that that's

1092
01:25:25,679 --> 01:25:31,120
what we should be spending our time on
because there are too many steps and it

1093
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:36,400
is time inensive
>> and that's and that's where I'm unclear

1094
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:41,840
is what are those steps. So there's the
licensing piece, but in order to even

1095
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:47,199
apply for the license, the billing piece
needs to be set up. The billing to set

1096
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:52,320
up the billing piece, we have to set up
our pieces with Medicare and Medicaid

1097
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:56,000
reimbursement pieces. So ambulance
billing is just like medical insurance

1098
01:25:54,159 --> 01:25:59,840
billing. It's it's you know, so if you
go to, you know, just like if you were

1099
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:04,239
at a doctor's office, we have to set up
all of those parameters in order to have

1100
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:08,400
the ability to do that. we would shop
for the best company to provide that

1101
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:13,040
service which that is a service right
now that Delta Ambulance actually does

1102
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:18,960
you know provide to to other
organizations and there are

1103
01:26:16,719 --> 01:26:23,280
we don't know if there are setup costs
because we haven't shopped it and asked

1104
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:27,840
so that's a step in a process that we
would do there's enough municipalities

1105
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:31,840
out there that do bill for ambulance
billing that we would be able to contact

1106
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:35,360
all of them and be a you know Travis
would be able to find out what their

1107
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:38,800
services are and have those
conversations with them.

1108
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:42,960
» Normally the way those work is that
their fees are taken from what they

1109
01:26:41,199 --> 01:26:47,840
collect. They get a portion of that,
right? That incentivizes them to do

1110
01:26:44,719 --> 01:26:52,880
their work. Um, so but we have to set
all those pieces up before you even send

1111
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:55,440
a copy of that license, which is five
pages, six pages.

1112
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:59,600
» And that's what I'm asking. What's that?
>> That all has to be done before we can

1113
01:26:56,719 --> 01:27:03,600
even mail that into the state. So that's
the pieces that

1114
01:27:00,639 --> 01:27:06,719
» you are already chief of Clinton as well
who did transport service who did

1115
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:09,920
billing.
>> So these are things that you already

1116
01:27:08,719 --> 01:27:13,199
have knowledge of.
>> Yes. Yeah.

1117
01:27:10,639 --> 01:27:17,840
» So I I understand it may be timeconuming
paperwork consuming but you do have the

1118
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:22,639
knowledge. This isn't something that's
>> going to be unique and you know who

1119
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:27,280
Clinton used for billing. You knew the
process. I mean I'm an insurance guy. I

1120
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:30,880
know how it it's not that hard to get
set up for for assurance.

1121
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:34,480
» No, you're just you're just at the mercy
of how fast.

1122
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:38,719
» So I all I'm trying to do, Kevin, is get
the process rolling. I don't think

1123
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:41,040
» I just I'm trying to understand. That's
why

1124
01:27:39,199 --> 01:27:45,360
» that portion's not going to be as long
drawn out. Um and I'm not saying we

1125
01:27:43,679 --> 01:27:49,040
don't be a good partner with Delta. I'm
not saying we're we're going to move

1126
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:51,600
away from Delta. Maybe Delta does
Clinton's billing. I don't know.

1127
01:27:50,719 --> 01:27:55,440
» Yeah, they do actually.
>> Okay. So if they do, maybe that's an

1128
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:57,760
option. this this is what we're looking
at,

1129
01:27:56,639 --> 01:28:01,040
» you know, do you want to do the
>> That's why I said my initial take when

1130
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:05,440
you threw that out there was no. I was
like I instantly went defensive. No, I

1131
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:09,760
don't even know what's going on. Yeah.
>> Hearing this process and what it take

1132
01:28:07,440 --> 01:28:15,600
what is going to transpire.
>> I think our community needed to hear

1133
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:18,880
this conversation on what is entailed in
this process. It's not just, hey, you're

1134
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:23,040
going to apply for a license. It comes
in the mail. Next thing you know, it's

1135
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:27,120
trans we're transporting. Oh, we're
already doing it. We might as well do it

1136
01:28:24,719 --> 01:28:33,120
anyway. That case. So, what the process
is and then what our role is as a

1137
01:28:30,239 --> 01:28:36,960
council through that process once we
say, yeah, go ahead with the license.

1138
01:28:35,199 --> 01:28:41,120
» Yeah. And and that could be just, you
know, like like uh Chairman Martin said,

1139
01:28:39,199 --> 01:28:44,800
that could be just as simple as okay,
we'll just do it on a an emergency

1140
01:28:43,199 --> 01:28:49,199
basis. If Delta's unavailable, that's
what we're going to do, you know. Um, so

1141
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:53,760
that there's different but we in order
for me to get that process rolling on

1142
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:57,199
researching the the the billing services
and starting that whole process. I need

1143
01:28:55,440 --> 01:29:01,600
that direction from me.
>> A question I asked the doctor

1144
01:28:59,621 --> 01:29:07,040
[clears throat] at the last meeting was
in in that report in the KV EMS report

1145
01:29:05,199 --> 01:29:10,960
uh all the data was based on still
transporting to Waterville. Yeah.

1146
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:16,159
» Uh and he didn't have that data. What is
what are you seeing throughout your

1147
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:21,679
community on what is the transport times
out of pocket once you decide to

1148
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:26,560
transport a patient from Fairfield,
Clinton, Benton to Augusta and back? And

1149
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:28,880
then how would that hurt our our fire
force?

1150
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:34,159
» Sure. And that's something that we'll
have to we'll have to gather some data

1151
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:38,719
on and uh Waterville has has been really
focused on that data for the last well

1152
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:42,800
since inland closed essentially. So, I
will be able to get that data from

1153
01:29:40,159 --> 01:29:46,400
Waterville and and I can we can uh they
break down how many times they've gone,

1154
01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:50,400
you know, this year versus when Inland
was open. Um what their transport times

1155
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:54,400
are and then we can kind of gear that
towards Fairfield, right? If if we come

1156
01:29:52,159 --> 01:29:58,480
from, you know, if we transport somebody
from uh the back road, you know, we

1157
01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:02,560
should be able to guesstimate, you know,
okay, it's going to take us,

1158
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:05,840
» you know, 35 minutes to get to Augusta.
We're going to be there for 20 minutes.

1159
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:09,920
It's going to take us x amount of time
to get back. We should be able to lay

1160
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:11,840
all those out with with that data. So,
and come back to you with that

1161
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,639
information.
>> I think that would that would be good

1162
01:30:13,440 --> 01:30:19,040
information.
>> So, not to make it more convoluted, but

1163
01:30:16,912 --> 01:30:21,199
[clears throat] let's say we have a call
for Fairfield or Benton.

1164
01:30:20,480 --> 01:30:26,480
» Mhm.
>> And they're on a transport already to

1165
01:30:23,440 --> 01:30:30,719
Augusta. Delta's on a transport. We have
a contract service with Delta. They get

1166
01:30:28,480 --> 01:30:36,800
a call to Vasboro. And then they get a
call Fairfield. What are we going to do?

1167
01:30:33,679 --> 01:30:38,960
» Yeah. Ex. So that and that was my
question.

1168
01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:42,560
» Well, that already exists for us because
Delta's not using

1169
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:46,960
» well two ambulances either.
>> Well, I would have to get to to two

1170
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:51,120
ambulances before we got to a to a
transport service. Obviously, it's going

1171
01:30:48,639 --> 01:30:56,639
to be a cost. But everything that we're
asking, all the questions we're asking,

1172
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:59,360
those same exact problems already exists
with Delta.

1173
01:30:57,679 --> 01:31:02,239
» But they couldn't give me that. They
nobody could give me that answer when I

1174
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:06,239
asked them at that last meeting.
>> They don't want to. They know the

1175
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:11,360
answer. It's and and I don't know the
answer, but it is the exact same time

1176
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:14,639
and the exact same problem that we will
have. The only difference is we have

1177
01:31:13,199 --> 01:31:17,840
control over our personnel,
>> right?

1178
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:21,679
» And and our mutual aid contracts. It may
be with Delta.

1179
01:31:19,440 --> 01:31:25,120
» Sometimes they get three calls and two
LMS is

1180
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:29,760
» got one out. So
>> So it was kind of interesting. Last

1181
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:33,280
night went to discussion with Dr. Pay uh
and and Kevin was there too. So there

1182
01:31:32,159 --> 01:31:36,960
were only the two of us. There weren't
three. So, it's all good. Uh, no special

1183
01:31:35,440 --> 01:31:40,960
meeting, but it was really interesting
because he actually did call out uh and

1184
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:45,120
mentioned Fairfield and Benton and the
fact that he actually showed some

1185
01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:48,719
sympathy for our situation, which was a
little different from our meeting. He

1186
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:52,159
said, "We have a responsibility. We're
looking at a fire department that we're

1187
01:31:50,159 --> 01:31:57,520
trying to staff appropriately to for the
safety of our citizens. And to do that,

1188
01:31:55,199 --> 01:32:02,639
we're looking at because fire is not a
service that is compensated for, right?

1189
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:06,800
Ambulance EMS is a service that can be
compensated for. So we can receive

1190
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:11,600
funding that way. That is one way to
staff your fire department to this

1191
01:32:08,480 --> 01:32:16,639
proper funding level staffing levels
doing that you know. So he actually said

1192
01:32:14,639 --> 01:32:19,280
I can understand where they are. I have
you know he he was saying I have my hat

1193
01:32:18,480 --> 01:32:22,880
talking about
>> why we are having this conversation.

1194
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:26,560
» Yeah. But but we're having this
conversation in a totally different, you

1195
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:32,080
know, he realizes what we are doing and
what we have to our first and foremost

1196
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:36,239
concern is making sure that our citizens
are taken care of and they're safe and

1197
01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:39,280
that we do it the best possible price
for the taxpayer and that's what we're

1198
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:43,679
trying to look at and I think that's
what's important in this situation. I

1199
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:46,800
know do I think regionalization is
actually a really good option. I'd love

1200
01:32:45,440 --> 01:32:51,040
to see that to make for more
efficiencies but that's not not going to

1201
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:54,480
happen in the next 6 months. It's not
going to happen by the next how many

1202
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:57,440
years? But I think it's happening
hopefully. I'm sure chief would would

1203
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:59,679
tend to like to have that.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

1204
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:03,920
» And you see what we have with mutual aid
on the on the fire end making sure we

1205
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:07,280
have that on EMS. Um but I I think we
have to do our due diligence and have to

1206
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:11,920
be prepared because we don't know what's
going to come in 6 months. And and I

1207
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:17,440
think that was you know that's been
China's direction as well that um they

1208
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:23,760
they wanted to start that process and do
it on an interimm basis or as an as

1209
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:28,639
needed basis in the event that if that
30-day window does ever come to fruition

1210
01:33:26,159 --> 01:33:33,040
when Delta says, "Hey, unfortunately
we're not going to be coming in 31

1211
01:33:30,480 --> 01:33:37,440
days." Now they have that in place. Um,
and that's essentially what we're trying

1212
01:33:34,639 --> 01:33:42,800
to do here to get to that point where in
case something happens um um then we're

1213
01:33:40,639 --> 01:33:47,824
not behind the eightball and 8 months
down the road we can start transporting.

1214
01:33:44,719 --> 01:33:51,120
» The the basis of my question
[clears throat]

1215
01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:56,800
to me simply was what is the
out-ofpocket time now that we have to

1216
01:33:54,080 --> 01:34:01,520
transport only to Augusta and will that
hurt our current fire department if they

1217
01:33:59,440 --> 01:34:05,760
are out of pocket for that long?
>> Sure. Yeah. I mean it's going to yeah

1218
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:12,480
it's going to deplete us our personnel
availability for sure. Um uh but we we

1219
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:16,320
do still transport to the um so there I
think last time I talked to Chief Ross

1220
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:20,719
in Waterville they had seen a pretty
substantial like I'm just using throwing

1221
01:34:18,639 --> 01:34:28,719
out numbers. Say they went to say they
went to uh AC and Augusta um 30 times in

1222
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:32,080
a month that that went up by 20 25 calls
when Inland closed. You know just I'm

1223
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:37,120
just using rough numbers. Kevin, in that
report, in that in that EMS report

1224
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:41,440
» with that 13% overlapping calls, they
actually added an hour for transport

1225
01:34:39,679 --> 01:34:47,520
service
to to develop that 13% overlapping call.

1226
01:34:44,639 --> 01:34:52,400
So that hour would cover trip to Augusta
and back. That is in that report Dr. Pay

1227
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:55,520
gave us in in our last meeting. That's
why I came up with that 13%.

1228
01:34:54,320 --> 01:35:00,480
» All right. Because I missed that cuz
that's why I asked him the report showed

1229
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:03,040
transport. I could throw out so many
numbers. It'll make everybody's

1230
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:07,760
[clears throat] head spin. I'm just
trying to keep it easy. The num the like

1231
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:12,239
I said, Travis asked for that report
years ago and now all of a sudden we're

1232
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:16,400
getting it. Okay. I didn't ask for Delta
to send a letter. I didn't ask for Del

1233
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:20,800
Delta. We don't want to deal with Delta,
but we keep getting it. We we keep

1234
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:24,480
getting different information, different
numbers. Yeah. I mean, we we've been

1235
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:28,880
asking, you know, what's the billing,
what's what's the collectibles, what's

1236
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:33,679
this, what's that, what's the calls.
Well, we know the calls because Travis

1237
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:37,920
the Q&A, the Q&A. Travis does these
reports and and we, you know, we pointed

1238
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:41,120
that out to Dr. Pay in the last meeting
where he's like, "Well, you have to do

1239
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:42,480
this and you have to do that." No, we
already do that.

1240
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:47,920
» Mhm.
>> Oh, okay. A lot of the services they

1241
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:53,520
deal with are volunteer or part-time
departments and they they don't run like

1242
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:57,600
us. Oakland went full-time. Fairfield's
full-time. Clinton's probably full-time,

1243
01:35:55,520 --> 01:36:00,560
but they're on their own now. So, I
don't know if they have any other

1244
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:04,080
full-time
>> apartments or towns that they service

1245
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:07,440
other than Fairfield, Benton, and
Oakland. And I and again, I could be

1246
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:11,520
wrong. I don't know Smithfield,
Belgrade, Rome. I don't know how their

1247
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:17,520
process works. I just know that the
numbers we receive from Delta are not

1248
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:21,840
the numbers that we receive from the EMS
report are not the numbers that we

1249
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:26,719
receive that we know are factual that
Travis presents us in our in our monthly

1250
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:31,760
reports. That's what I'm trying to go
by. Again, I don't want to throw out all

1251
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:35,760
these numbers. Well, they said this and
they said that.

1252
01:36:33,199 --> 01:36:40,159
» All I can go by is the actual factual
knowledge that we know, right? that

1253
01:36:38,239 --> 01:36:44,800
» and it changes because you've got a
private entity that has a monopoly and

1254
01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:48,400
we're at their mercy and they provide a
good service and they provide a service

1255
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:53,600
that our citizens want and a and a
service that we need but we're getting

1256
01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:56,159
to a point where it's unaffordable and I
don't know if they're going to be there

1257
01:36:54,639 --> 01:37:00,320
tomorrow cuz I don't know if Oakland's
pulling out or Belgrade. We know China

1258
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:05,440
has already moved to go to that
intermittent license whether they act on

1259
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:09,280
it or not. So that's all I'm asking our
council right now. Let's get the process

1260
01:37:07,679 --> 01:37:13,360
rolling with the intermittent license.
>> So, I just want to I just want to be

1261
01:37:11,119 --> 01:37:18,639
clear. I like I said from the very
beginning, I'm a data driven person. I

1262
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:22,960
like the data. I'm concern my primary
concern right now is the human factor

1263
01:37:20,719 --> 01:37:26,960
side of the Manning and what it would
take when it gets there. And I through

1264
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:30,960
this conversation, I understand that
there is a process for that other than

1265
01:37:29,440 --> 01:37:35,440
just saying, "Yeah, go get your
license." So, I feel comfortable. Thank

1266
01:37:33,440 --> 01:37:39,920
you for the conversation. I believe in
the data. It's just what data we get.

1267
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:44,480
Um, and
>> so, so even with that, even with that

1268
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:49,679
data, what I just told you 13% adding
that hour transport, they they Dr. Pay

1269
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:53,360
told us 13% is going to be our overlap
coverage. That's where the the mutual

1270
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:56,639
agreements have to come in. We've got to
give Travis the ability to say, "Okay,

1271
01:37:54,880 --> 01:38:00,960
Waterville, Winslow, China, Albian,
whoever's local, we need to set up these

1272
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:05,520
agreements. what's it going to cost if
we if we have that second call and

1273
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:10,080
Winslow has to come and they're going to
charge, you know, $300 for for a

1274
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:14,800
paramedic fee. That will all be decided
once we give Travis some direction and

1275
01:38:12,480 --> 01:38:18,719
we'll know. Um I I was just wondering
what's the license fee. I already know

1276
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:22,560
we need more staff, right? And Dr.
Townsen just said that. And we know what

1277
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:28,320
it's going to cost. You know, we know we
need 2.25 people because we have a a

1278
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:34,639
40-hour position that we can convert to
full-time. So, we know the exact cost of

1279
01:38:30,639 --> 01:38:38,639
what our manpower will cost. It's chief,
what's what's a second ambulance going

1280
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:43,280
to cost? Not necessarily that we're
going to use the second ambulance, but

1281
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:48,560
what's the lasting years if we do decide
to do full transport? Luckily for us, he

1282
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:54,159
knows cuz he's run those types of
services. And and then when we do get to

1283
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:58,639
that point, because we're data driven,
we have to factor in how often are you

1284
01:38:56,800 --> 01:39:03,600
replacing this equipment? How much more
are the supplies? What are the added

1285
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:10,080
expenses? And make sure we budget that
so that when the ambulance is is up for

1286
01:39:07,679 --> 01:39:14,639
service or needs to be replaced, those
funds are there. Just like we're dealing

1287
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:18,960
with building at this point, you know,
every politician seems to kick the can

1288
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:23,760
down the road. And nobody wants to deal
with saving for tomorrow. But when

1289
01:39:21,199 --> 01:39:27,760
something becomes 50, 60, 70 years old
and [cough] it's no more functioning,

1290
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:32,960
it's the problem of the people sitting
in the chairs now and it [snorts] hurts.

1291
01:39:30,719 --> 01:39:37,199
But we have to be more practical, do our
due diligence, not be put in a position

1292
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:41,760
where Delta says, "Well, I'm sorry, in
31 days we're not coming." Not that

1293
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:46,480
that's going to happen, but we don't
know. It's a private entity. We have no

1294
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:50,480
idea what what their fiscals are. They
could be making millions. They could be

1295
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:54,800
losing millions. hospitals lose millions
and we just had one fold. I don't want

1296
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:58,480
us I don't want our citizens to be in a
position where well you guys been

1297
01:39:56,719 --> 01:40:02,080
talking about this for two years and you
haven't done anything about it. How long

1298
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:06,800
are you going to keep talking about it?
And that's what we hear and and again I

1299
01:40:04,480 --> 01:40:10,880
I just don't want to throw out too many
numbers like we have been doing when we

1300
01:40:09,119 --> 01:40:16,880
met with Benton. There's too many
whatifs. So if we can give Chief Larry

1301
01:40:13,679 --> 01:40:21,440
and say okay let's let's apply for this
intermittent license. What's it going to

1302
01:40:18,639 --> 01:40:27,040
take to get billing on board to get
contracted with Medicare and Blue Cross

1303
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:32,400
and Medicaid and and whoever? And then
what are additional costs if we had to

1304
01:40:29,119 --> 01:40:37,760
go full-time service?
Maybe we want to when we know what those

1305
01:40:34,239 --> 01:40:42,400
costs look like. my own opinion, I think
we will pay it will never be a money

1306
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:46,239
maker, but it will pay for your supplies
and it will pay for your personnel,

1307
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:51,760
which right now we have no revenue
source to offset those costs. That's

1308
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:55,840
down the road. Right now, I just I'm
asking council, let's start the process.

1309
01:40:54,320 --> 01:41:00,000
Let's get this intermittent license
started. Let's give Travis the ability

1310
01:40:57,440 --> 01:41:04,639
to find out the exact questions that you
and Council Tibido have asked. get those

1311
01:41:02,480 --> 01:41:08,080
numbers so we can move forward and have
something prepared when we get into our

1312
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:12,560
budget season.
>> Fair.

1313
01:41:10,639 --> 01:41:17,520
» And I'm sorry to make it so again
convoluted. It's it's there's a lot of

1314
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:20,080
numbers and it is data driven, but I
think I just wanted clarity in the

1315
01:41:19,440 --> 01:41:23,199
process.
>> It's hard it's hard to keep it simple

1316
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,239
because there's there's too many moving
pieces.

1317
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:28,239
» Yeah.
>> Very complex. But but to make it as

1318
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:32,239
simple as possible, we need to start the
process.

1319
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:38,639
And if it's a minimal fee of a couple
hundred, I I want us to please do it.

1320
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:43,840
» Do we need a motion and or what that
motion will include?

1321
01:41:41,199 --> 01:41:48,480
» Make a motion we start um the process of
intermittent um um transport.

1322
01:41:48,239 --> 01:41:51,920
We'll
>> second that.

1323
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:56,800
So, I have a motion by council Lawrence,
second by Council Townsen. Do we have

1324
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:59,040
any other discussion? It's It's a very
vague motion, but I think that's kind of

1325
01:41:58,239 --> 01:42:03,040
where it needs to be, right?
>> I would just add to old council business

1326
01:42:01,119 --> 01:42:06,560
so we can get updates on the process.
>> Absolutely right.

1327
01:42:04,719 --> 01:42:09,760
» You just may very well end up with weeks
though that it's going to say we have

1328
01:42:08,159 --> 01:42:12,239
nothing new for you. Just be aware.
>> That's nothing new.

1329
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:14,080
» Yeah.
>> On the radar.

1330
01:42:13,440 --> 01:42:20,080
» Yep.
>> Very good. That's all I have.

1331
01:42:18,239 --> 01:42:26,000
Any other discussion? Do we have a
motion and a second? All those in favor?

1332
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:31,199
Unanimous. 5-0. Thank you. Sorry for
being l lengthy. And um Travis, I know

1333
01:42:28,719 --> 01:42:33,920
we discussed this heard it last night.
Um ambulance is what? Coming in

1334
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:37,199
tomorrow.
>> Yes. Yeah. Uh the new ambulance will be

1335
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:39,760
delivered tomorrow.
>> Okay.

1336
01:42:37,679 --> 01:42:41,920
» Um so I don't know what time yet. I'm
still waiting from Kyle to get an actual

1337
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:44,320
time.
>> And um I know you have to do training,

1338
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:48,639
too.
>> Yes. Yeah. So, so once we get the

1339
01:42:46,159 --> 01:42:51,920
vehicle, um we'll do a final inspection,
make sure everything's the way it's

1340
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:56,800
supposed to be. Um and then we'll start
our training process. So, each each

1341
01:42:53,840 --> 01:43:01,520
employee will be required to put um uh
you know, several miles of of road time

1342
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:05,440
on it. Um and then we'll start the
process of stocking the vehicle. So,

1343
01:43:03,199 --> 01:43:10,159
it'll be it will be several weeks, if
not a month or two before we actually

1344
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:13,840
utilize chance to do the training, then
apply for the in

1345
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:16,639
» and then it's there cuz it's a different
vehicle, right? And we like we like all

1346
01:43:15,440 --> 01:43:19,679
our people to be comfortable with
driving it, especially winter time. You

1347
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:22,960
know, it handles different than the
pickup wheel. And um so we want

1348
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:26,960
everybody to be comfortable.
>> Just one more question. I know we've

1349
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:29,360
already voted on it and moved on, but we
still have Med One.

1350
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:33,840
» Yes. Yeah.
>> So if we if we do finally get to that

1351
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:36,960
process and we're set up and ready to go
and our ambulance goes, we could still

1352
01:43:35,679 --> 01:43:41,440
serve
>> with Med One. We just transport.

1353
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:45,280
» Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And and that's
this new vehicle will be just that. It

1354
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:48,480
will be a first response vehicle. Um, it
will have some pros though. You know, if

1355
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:51,600
we're at a motor vehicle accident in the
middle of February, we can get that

1356
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:55,280
patient inside while we wait instead of
waiting outside, you know. So, so

1357
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:58,560
there'll be a lot of benefits to it. Um,
or we can simply scoop the patient, get

1358
01:43:57,199 --> 01:44:02,000
them in the back of the truck where all
of our equipment is and treat that

1359
01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:05,280
patient better because all of our
equipment's right there, you know. So,

1360
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:09,199
and then when Delta arrives, we can
simply take them off our stretcher and

1361
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:13,440
put them on Deltas and and they can go.
So there'll be a lot of pros to having

1362
01:44:10,719 --> 01:44:17,679
this this vehicle for sure without even
transporting.

1363
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:23,440
» Fantastic. Thank you. Thank you council
as well. Great discussion.

1364
01:44:21,119 --> 01:44:28,080
» Okay. Discuss annual organization
meeting, elected officials, municipal

1365
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:32,719
and state protocols, annual reminders.
So we have all our normal protocols. I'm

1366
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:36,960
going to just go through them all. Code
of conduct, executive session, freedom

1367
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:41,679
of information act, records,
disposition, vacancies of boards and

1368
01:44:39,679 --> 01:44:46,239
committees, town council administrative
policy, and then we'll get into the memo

1369
01:44:44,719 --> 01:44:51,679
from the town clerk. Do we have any
questions on the

1370
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:56,159
code of conduct, all our forms?
You would Michelle, did you want to add

1371
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:58,880
anything to that before we get to the
memo from town?

1372
01:44:57,199 --> 01:45:02,320
» Um, just that it's all standard
business. Usually you just start your

1373
01:45:00,480 --> 01:45:07,600
review process now so that when we get
to your organizational meeting um you

1374
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:11,520
can either you know we have time to make
changes now and then you just adopt

1375
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:15,040
everything at your next meeting or you
can make changes at your next meeting

1376
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:18,960
and and go forward. But it just gets you
really talking about it and thinking

1377
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:22,800
about it. Um normally it's a much larger
process when we have new counselors

1378
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:26,960
coming in uh because all of you have
been here before. It's all kind of going

1379
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:30,639
to be routine for you but it is part of
our process every year. Um, and we just

1380
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:34,199
like to keep things consistent. It's
always good to review.

1381
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:43,840
» Any questions from council? If we could,
please go over those before our

1382
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:47,840
organizational meeting if you want any
changes made before that. [snorts]

1383
01:45:45,440 --> 01:45:50,960
» Yep. Any feedback you have, whatever
>> your code of conduct and they're all in

1384
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:56,719
there and get those signed and into
Britney as well.

1385
01:45:54,080 --> 01:46:02,960
» Okay. Memo from the town clerk. So, we
all have a memo. I think it's just some

1386
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:06,800
um clean up, some wording. You want to
present that, Britney?

1387
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:12,480
» Sure. So, the
in the town council administrative

1388
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:18,880
policy, there's a section in there um
about um absentee voting hours and voter

1389
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:22,880
registration vot um hours.
In the current verbiage, it states that

1390
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:28,639
the week prior to any election shall
include extended hours on Monday from

1391
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:35,920
4:30 to 6:30 to allow for voter
registration.

1392
01:46:30,159 --> 01:46:41,840
That is not what the statute says. Um
the statute is very specific as far as

1393
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:47,040
um towns with populations of more than
2500 shall accept voter registrations on

1394
01:46:45,199 --> 01:46:51,360
the last five business days that the
clerk's office is open before any

1395
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:59,679
election day. And it has to be from the
hours um of 5:00 p.m. and 9:00 p.m.

1396
01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:04,960
The old language stated it's for um
absentee voting. It's not for absentee

1397
01:47:02,159 --> 01:47:09,840
voting. It's strictly just for voter
registration for the last two hours that

1398
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:14,880
we remain open for those extended sorry
the extended hours. Um so I'm just

1399
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:20,960
cleaning that up to be more specific on
what the statute actually states.

1400
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:25,360
» Okay. So absentee voting those that last
word we're going to strike

1401
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:26,960
» to to get current with state ordinance I
believe state statute.

1402
01:47:26,480 --> 01:47:30,639
» Yep.
>> So we need to amend [clears throat] our

1403
01:47:28,159 --> 01:47:35,360
administrative policy. And then on the
last line on the voter registration

1404
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:39,760
hours is where that uh in the evening
from 5 to 9

1405
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:43,080
» on the back of that page. We need to add
that. Yep.

1406
01:47:45,199 --> 01:47:51,600
» Yep. So it's really just cleaning up
some different changes and I think one

1407
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:56,000
of these was a recent
change too to the law for clarification

1408
01:47:53,760 --> 01:48:00,239
purposes. So, and this has always lived
in council administrative policy

1409
01:47:58,159 --> 01:48:02,880
governing election processes. And this
is just to make sure we stay in

1410
01:48:01,440 --> 01:48:07,520
compliance with the law the way it's
currently written.

1411
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:11,360
» So, and those will be you're not even
expected to do that tonight. That'll be

1412
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:14,560
part of the administrative [snorts]
policy when you do that review. We just

1413
01:48:13,199 --> 01:48:17,520
really wanted to bring this attention to
you beforehand. We think

1414
01:48:16,159 --> 01:48:20,719
» as of right now, I think this is
probably the biggest thing that we have

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01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:24,159
coming for administrative policy because
we did that review not that long ago,

1416
01:48:22,159 --> 01:48:26,719
too. Um, but this will be a change
that's coming and we just wanted you to

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01:48:25,440 --> 01:48:30,560
have the opportunity to review it and
ask any questions beforehand.

1418
01:48:28,239 --> 01:48:34,480
» So, this just cleans up our language and
administrative policy to match state

1419
01:48:32,480 --> 01:48:36,159
statute. Any questions for Britney? I
think they're pretty straightforward.

1420
01:48:36,014 --> 01:48:40,960
[clears throat]
>> Just to be clear. So, in the

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01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:46,960
administrative policy,
uh, section 108, you're looking at

1422
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:50,560
changing paragraph three to read what
this now says.

1423
01:48:48,159 --> 01:48:54,119
» Yes. So this whole paragraph here will
change to this.

1424
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:06,119
Any other questions?

1425
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:15,520
» Okay, I think we're good on that one.
Discuss other council business. Council

1426
01:49:12,480 --> 01:49:19,840
Kitchen. Uh, I really have nothing other
than I walked through uh the community

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01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:24,480
center and saw what the police
department's doing for our youth coming

1428
01:49:22,480 --> 01:49:30,239
up on Friday. Uh, don't forget to sign
up your children for that and I'm sure

1429
01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:35,000
I'll echo everybody else. Have a happy
holidays and we'll see everybody back in

1430
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:35,000
January.

1431
01:49:36,639 --> 01:49:46,000
» Well, I last weekend I attended the
history houses uh Christmas open house.

1432
01:49:42,639 --> 01:49:53,040
They did a wonderful job. I'm very proud
of these dedicated volunteers that have

1433
01:49:50,159 --> 01:50:00,239
um brought Mrs. Smith's house back to
life. Um they work hard. They they do a

1434
01:49:57,679 --> 01:50:05,520
wonderful job and I just want to thank
them uh for what they are doing. Um I

1435
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:13,280
also are you going to talk about the
sheltering workshop, Peter? So, and like

1436
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:18,159
um Council Kitchen, I'm very much
impressed with what the police

1437
01:50:14,719 --> 01:50:22,960
department is doing with our youth. Um
they've been doing the

1438
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:28,320
fixing up the community center here for
several years now and this year they've

1439
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:33,679
really outdone themselves and we're very
fortunate to have such dedicated people

1440
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:38,400
uh in our departments that will do this
for the benefit of others.

1441
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:40,639
That's it.
>> Towns

1442
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:44,159
» pretty much the same. It was a great
walk through there. It is uh kind of

1443
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:50,400
brings out the uh child in you to walk
through. Uh so hopefully maybe it's open

1444
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:55,440
from uh 4 to 7:30 on Friday, December
19th and go to Fairfield's Fairfield

1445
01:50:53,119 --> 01:51:00,480
copscare.com. But it's really really fun
in there. Um and I just want yeah wish

1446
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:04,639
happy winter solstice. That means the
days are going to get longer. So it's

1447
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:08,800
it's coming. It's coming coming. Merry
Christmas. Happy Hanukkah and uh peace

1448
01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:14,239
and joy. So,
>> thank you, Council Lawrence.

1449
01:51:10,639 --> 01:51:21,119
» Okay, I got um several um this Friday um
at the Graange is a senior lunchon from

1450
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:27,280
11 to 2. That's um December 19th.
And don't forget on December 22nd,

1451
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:30,080
the New Lawrence um elementary school is
going to have a ribb cutting ceremony.

1452
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:31,440
So,
>> 27th.

1453
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:33,040
» 27th.
>> 27th.

1454
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:38,560
» That's at 1:00.
>> Yep.

1455
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:46,000
And on December 11th, I attended uh the
cooling and warming center and disaster

1456
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:50,560
emergency shelter training here um at
the community center. [clears throat] We

1457
01:51:47,599 --> 01:51:57,040
had 14 individuals attend this event.
One was on Zoom, but actually 13 live

1458
01:51:54,000 --> 01:52:03,840
here. So, a two-hour training. We had
two counselors, myself and um councelor

1459
01:51:59,599 --> 01:52:11,199
um Tibido. Five town employees
attended this and seven um Grange

1460
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:18,080
members attended and 14 and all total um
um residents attended that training

1461
01:52:15,440 --> 01:52:22,719
and also too I I took a tour of the
community center last night but I saw

1462
01:52:19,679 --> 01:52:27,520
more tonight and police has done a
fantastic job for our kids. Don't forget

1463
01:52:25,440 --> 01:52:32,320
to attend that. And I like to wish all
the residents a merry Christmas and a

1464
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:38,800
happy new year and see you in January.
>> Okay. I [snorts] want to thank all our

1465
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:43,119
committees um building committee.
Fantastic job. Thank you. That's a lot

1466
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:48,320
of work and and a long drawn out
process. Uh our interim

1467
01:52:46,480 --> 01:52:52,159
public works director, Tommy, thank you
for tonight. You made it through. I hope

1468
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:58,400
we make it a full-time position. I'd
love to see that happen. and he's a

1469
01:52:53,679 --> 01:53:04,400
longtime employee. Um, wish your staff a
lot of safety. It's snow season. Uh,

1470
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:09,440
please be aware. Um, a lot of questions
usually we see online about salt and

1471
01:53:06,639 --> 01:53:12,239
sand. There is a a sand pile down by
public works. Is it limited to two

1472
01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:16,080
buckets? Am I
>> two buckets? Yes. For a storm.

1473
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:18,480
» So, two buckets for a storm. You just
heard

1474
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:19,920
» main I forgot to say Main Street does
look good, too.

1475
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:24,400
» What was that? Yeah,
>> Main Street does look good.

1476
01:53:21,199 --> 01:53:28,159
» Main Oh, M. Yeah, absolutely. So, again,
I want to thank our department heads.

1477
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:32,960
Again, all the counselors have said this
place looks absolutely fantastic. If you

1478
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:38,560
can be around, um, come check it out, do
a walk through. That's Friday 4:00 right

1479
01:53:36,239 --> 01:53:43,520
here at the community center. Um, I want
to wish all the staff, employees,

1480
01:53:40,719 --> 01:53:48,560
citizens, council members a very merry
Christmas and happy holidays. Please be

1481
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:56,159
safe. Um, it's it's a lot of tragedies
lately. Too many that we see. um just

1482
01:53:53,119 --> 01:54:00,719
keep everybody in your best interest and
be on your best behavior and please be

1483
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:06,719
safe. So that's all I have. It's been a
fantastic year and thank you all for

1484
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:12,560
your support.
So with that, our next regular meeting

1485
01:54:10,639 --> 01:54:17,520
of the Fairfield Town Council will be on
Wednesday, January 14th, 2026 to be held

1486
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:22,800
as a hybrid meeting in council chambers
and via Zoom at 6:30 p.m.

1487
01:54:20,719 --> 01:54:26,239
At this time, council will recess, sign
all documents that require the

1488
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:30,280
signature. Council members, make a
motion to go recess. Second.

1489
01:54:30,374 --> 01:54:32,394
[laughter]