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Please. Yes, this is opinion on stuff. We could use some fresh, some fresh insights

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for those who are so wide, are we reporting? Yes. All right, welcome everyone to the May 20th, 2026, the meeting of the report sheet commission for the City of Balserts. My name is Amy Crompton. I am the chair of this commission and we're going to go around the room.

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see who's here and for the city council is um i'm playing northern remember of the

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Christian well it's secrets do you threat and john's time you threat

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listen to rose duly appointed as one commissioner Charles Winston your works thank you

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and finally goes down to her so got it in like fourth four clock was happening um our

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So we do not have a Sean with us this evening. Is that correct?

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He is in for it.

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Okay. So we will move directly to a approval of minutes for April.

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We're on.

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So there.

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Thank you again to Kathleen.

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We can head this together.

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Wonderful.

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Did anyone see anything that they thought needed to be changed?

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I don't.

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Let's make one note. So we're converting over to more AD accessible formatting for all of our forms.

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This will be the new format in the city logo, brain mark.

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Okay. All aerial fonts. So just say you see that that's why it's a little bit different.

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Okay. And I'll send you over to template.

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That'd be great. Okay. We can add to me too.

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Yeah, we don't just add that to be on there. We'll copy that.

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That's perfect. Thank you. Okay, I think I tried to use the right art and I sent it. I know I put it on the wrong letter here, but I think I was trying to use the right classes.

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You get actors hard now, is that right or is it something else? Very all. It was Ariel. What have the photos? I thought that was supposed to be it. Okay, maybe I misunderstood. All right.

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I'm behind. All right. Great. Anybody have anything? Nothing? All right. Do I hear emotion?

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In my second.

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It's approved.

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Mr. President, do you have any public comments or petition?

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Then we can directly on to business on the agenda.

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And we shall start with our representative from the Council.

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We just went on the analysis calendar.

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Yeah, so we just put over calendar this morning,

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somethings that shifted around slightly to give a little bit more time on

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some of the Virginia village conversation before

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any issues of RMP and to take up some zoning considerations.

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But things on the calendar, just as they stand on the highlighted, what I should be talking about.

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But coming up on the 26th, we'll hear kind of update on that Virginia Village process

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since the initiating resolution code amendments needs to be on there in order to send out to the planning commission,

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And like I said, zoning related considerations for, you know, what would be allowed to be under this site right now by right and what additional allowances may be kind of put into effects given the portable housing goals that we've been talking about and some of the conversations around small area plan amendments and like what the what those parcels could potentially accommodate in terms of expanded.

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of portable housing, or increased portable housing, so something to pay attention to, I've

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been when it goes out to planning commission in terms of potential adjustments, there

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was a conversation during the community meetings that took place at Oak Street Elementary

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and at Columbia Baptist about the goals generally, and there were older, small area plans

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that had needed to be reconciled between a plan

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for more open space and a community center there.

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For example, as a plan to actually retain

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the preserve, potentially expand the portable housing

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on the site, and then in terms of having those conversations,

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community feedback was still around the importance

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of that being the green space.

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But if there is, you know, expanded housing there,

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Sure that it still has kind of links to picture these park that isn't, you know, at the expense of all the green space that is there, that they're sort of, you know, better lengths and open space and green, greenery and tree buffers and things.

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And so, like I said, probably something for urban forest streets that pay attention to or as it comes up on planning commission to see, you know, what that.

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they look like or what the code amendments look like, and then, yeah, we'll do our quarterly

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CIP update. I'm trying to think I don't think that there's anything on there that is urban

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forestry related as much as like the ongoing DQW projects, and then the council priorities.

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I know that you have the 2026 priorities included in tonight's packet for urban forestry,

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and they get aligned with the environmental sustainability

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role in wanting to do what we can to preserve as much of the

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green spaces we're able to, even though we don't have great

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stable teeth to be able to do self and looking at, you know,

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they continue to continue potential in the legislature,

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future legislative sessions to position ourselves to maybe get more

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us already and we missed out on this year because of the town kind of delineation on things.

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I know Kurt was here last month talking about urban design master plan and so when we're doing

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kind of comprehensive plans and documents we've been trying to follow at the city attorney's advice

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these initiating resolutions in order to properly make days. But we're doing and follow

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better process and so that's I think we need still need to have the Council

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conversation about it might be the previous week, Charles, about the scope of the

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urban design master plans of what it will and will cover given how many other

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things planning also has on it. In its portfolio right now to make it kind of

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or what's part of it and what is in part of it,

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but we're gonna say we received the update from Kurt

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on that, or the preview from Kurt last month.

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But that's largely the Chesapeake Bay regulations.

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That was really bring us into compliance,

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apparently we were out of compliance

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and had to enter into a compliance agreement.

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where it should be so less of updates coming out of the legislative session and more of

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implementing what we're supposed to be doing by I think it was July or August. We kind of

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deadline we had so that we had visibility into that recently and so that's what the Chesapeake

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breaks, but that's mostly in terms of urban forestry related.

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The stormwater session, we made significant comments to that.

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Two years ago, two summers ago.

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I don't think this last summer was sort of gross.

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Do we need to look at it at the end?

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Can you have to see if anything?

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I don't think so.

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I mean, this one, I can go back and hold from, I guess it would have been two weeks ago

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the last work session where we covered this, but you know, this was more things that we need

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to do to ensure that our code is in a place and our process is in a place and that one, you know,

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permits are coming in that like the resource protection area is properly slides that when, you know,

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different protections are in place and so it was less about updates and more about implementation

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of the governing standards. Okay. Also, I think some of the burden was like references,

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like some of the references were out of date in ARCO. So we kind of went to more directly to like,

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I don't think you have a lot of changes subsequently. I think it's really about instead of us having

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our own written version, and our code,

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we're just referencing the state code.

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When it gets supported, as I understand it from this

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of the few conversations like that.

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Yeah, I can, if you want to continue,

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I can pull it from our last word session,

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and then I'll be able to review a better sense of what

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exactly this one water piece says in the review.

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OK, thank you.

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Charles, we've got any updates on.

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Staff.

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No one will be saying.

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I have to be this way too.

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So this is where you jump in.

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The husband there, I'll always have it in doing it.

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Well, they did such a truck today.

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Fortunately, I wasn't able to attend.

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Oh, right, right.

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And, um, yeah.

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Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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They're doing great job.

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or chugging along with is leading the charge and getting a lot of things taken care of

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because it's now, everything's leaked out except for all the dead trees. So we're kind of in that

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dead tree motor right now, but on public property and on private properties. Okay. So yeah,

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I mean, they're doing great. No, no, no, it's just good.

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So yeah, so yeah, so our staff report

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From May 4th, basically, for the initial even resolution on the just PFA ranks, staff described

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it as part of a set of relatively minor technical modifications that the city was taking

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following a recent review by the Virginia Department of Environmental Quality and the first

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pieces of it as deficiencies identified by DBQ, the city's comprehensive plan and the storm

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order of streams and natural springs, chapter had to be amended to include a CBPA map showing

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the resources protection area and resource management area lands within state limits, a narrative

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and a corresponding map that describes and depicts areas of the city that exhibit physical

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constraints to development such as steep slopes, highly erodable soils and areas

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prone to flooding and air to the corresponding map that'scribed from the pick

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areas of the city with no stream bank, a load of issues, and a narrative in

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corresponding map of the existing and potential water pollution sources. And then the

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second piece of it was,

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we did it have that, that there were issues coming out of

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ordinance consistency, reveal, for example, a establishing the plan that the development

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review process for all development exceeding 2,500 square feet of land disturbance who

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have normally talked about, like in 1,500 square foot grain plan, trigger, but it wasn't kind

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of captured everywhere, maybe that it should have been through the references to the use of an

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assessment, which was an permitted, like I said, recording with depiction of the resource protection

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area, resource management area, boundaries on plaques and site plans, group re-enotations,

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and that the notations must include the requirement to retain and understand the vegetated

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hundred-foot-foot-foot-foot-foot and the limitations on the development and the RPI, who are kind

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of the facilities of redevelopment and then plans for development review process.

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So need for consistent documentation of sites,

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specific or create terminations.

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And then making sure that those sites,

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specific evaluations have X, Y, and Z components,

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and then the comp plan pieces that I talked about.

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So staff seem to say that a lot of this is happening,

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but isn't kind of captured.

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I'm a bit of the work session we talked about the importance

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of the RPA and the resource management area, especially because we do have those additional protections

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for like, you know, current, freeze, and everything else that is there in terms of like not having

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as much disturbance. And so we need to make sure that as things are coming in that we are appropriately

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before I get rid of those additional protections applied,

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so they shouldn't have must do so.

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is strong on their check on whether the trees are still there.

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If we've got the new moment coming in

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and they decide to take everything down,

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and they don't know what's in our food there.

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We'll see whether or not the trees are there.

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That's storm water for overseas, the RPAs, but it's kind of a report, like when I'm going around,

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check me out and you know, yeah, yeah, they were seeing the RPAs putting this chart.

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But they only have like a, a routine checking to see how things are going to do drones,

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just walking around or whatever.

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Apparently, looking in when there's somebody who wants to do some kind of development, just like you did.

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Is that just a story that I know that's correct?

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Okay. I just got a letter in the mail that should come in and check our storm water area.

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We did that in our House on the Grove Avenue appears.

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You know, I don't know if they were checking for trees.

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Well, yeah.

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If you rely more on my neighbors, snitching, I think.

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You know.

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If they're neighbors, no.

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It's an archaea.

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I don't know.

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I'll see you in the fair about it.

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Yeah, yeah, I guess the first time I've seen it, I've got to let it open.

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Okay, because I was just curious how, what public education is there on this?

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This is a new moment of getting a letter or something amended to their property.

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Yeah, yes, yes, yes, you have that.

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Okay, and with all of the restrictions and governance or whatever they're in.

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I mean, it's just lucky that the people who bought the house from past that on

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for us.

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Unless you go for organized and we got everything when I read through it, that was

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they okay.

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So then my got the sweater.

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I was like, oh, and then I went and got that out.

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That's all.

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So the documentation should be there somewhere.

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I'll be right there.

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Raise it.

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What the situation doesn't really mean to me like a list of, like, flags for every

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house.

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We do it with the permits counter because we use it for reference a lot.

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We're like, we get one, we'll save them.

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but we don't really have like a library of, really, but I'm familiar with it.

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But all of our GS mapping has, you know, we look at the properties it tells us and

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to the government review process if it's in our PA, if modern American flags and like there are

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processes but no we're not. I don't know, to my knowledge there is no like audit, sort of speak,

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So all of these, I could be wrong, but I'm just not aware.

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Okay, I'm just curious, that's what D to let's see because I had a lot of those two

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wisdomists asked me to start to tell me all about their neighbor when it just

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does, right, right, I'm talking to Creek and I'm just taking on the truth down on

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my, well, how do you love to do that? And they don't know it's, you know what I mean?

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I'm just wondering now, what are the mechanisms here? Yeah, well, we have the

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And I had like an eight page like, you know, compliance agreement and it said what we needed to do and like the technical pieces of things and so hopefully now we have a, you know, a better sense of what the

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complain needs to reflect or what, you know, or existing practices, how they need to be

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memorialized or maybe, you know, and it's a different one. I don't know what we're doing.

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Whatever it is, there was a review where we're implementing those audio and during the work session,

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I was like, well, can we just confirm, you know, that that that we are flagging in the appropriate

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it way, given the additional protections, right, right exist for a reason, but we've never had a

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fine.

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Yesterday, as Fairfax said, I believe they do have sanctions, but I wouldn't have similar sort of

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related.

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We allowed to know the outcome of that.

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Look at the, often the fair shop on South Washington to cut down trees on the park line.

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Yeah, public information.

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I'm sure, well, one is a good idea.

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You think of a reduced fine, but it was still significant.

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I don't recall something.

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Was it almost like a threshold for an organization?

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I don't recall the number.

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I can follow them though, for sure.

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We had no precedent to go.

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Maybe the best.

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Sorry, this is a precedent.

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We should follow up because even though it was in like the city manager's ultimate

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just right and right, it's okay. But we're right there and I'll like to reduce it. It did say like that, you know,

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I think the commission right would be informed of the multiment.

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And before that, right, here concludes. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And that was that's one of those issues

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that it would be nice at some point I'd like to think through a sort of a policy document, but a

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document on how to run that kind of a conversation. Because I didn't know, I didn't do it all

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but I didn't really, I didn't quite know. And so I think what's at the BCA or whatever does

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that kind of stuff all the time, right? People cry, you know, that kind of thing. So it would be nice to

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have some of that information about how to secure this conversation now.

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I don't know, I don't know, but if I have a place to talk to, I don't know.

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Two or two, nobody survived.

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Nobody's crying.

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But I realized I didn't really understand what a nice cleaning way to do it,

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but at least don't clean the way to do it.

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It would have been.

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I just felt like we were probably just kind of fumbling around.

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You guys were very helpful.

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But I was like, what are we getting out here?

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Because you guys, you all still have...

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So we could throw out a number of ring you could still say no to that. So I didn't want to get his hopes up to five.

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Sure. You know, at the same time, you want to be a reason we're going to use this for ice.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I think I see it as hard.

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I do remember he did a nice to enjoy it on a separate email chain. So he was impressed and how professional and play everybody was to process including the course.

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He was, well that's nice. Yeah, he was, he was, he was coming into a straight up part of the year.

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And, you know, I fear of misnot the way it's going to be. It's not the way we conduct business.

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And he still felt that very fancy boat.

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Yeah, and Tim's ready to pile.

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No, he just tried.

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And he just, you know, we, we tried walk it through.

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But I felt like we, I'm a terrible loss of our, I'm not a good judge.

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Right, I want to give people a bit of a bit of a doubt. I want to make sure that they can afford to pay fine, right, and just that's how I best who I am. So I know that's not helpful if they're trying to close the line that means something.

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But he seemed to try it was he didn't come in, you know, very blazing or whatever, and it accused us of anything. So I.

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That would do this paper.

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Yeah, so anyway, at some point, that's one of those things that like, the rest of the thing through because that happens again.

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Yeah, oh, I'll reach up to the BZT Aliens on and test out a conversation with them.

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Okay, so now it's exactly that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, even just as a jumping off point, like, you know, we can, you know,

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settle out more regularly to worry, right?

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Right.

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So in any of you had any thoughts about what happened and how it transpires and what you'd like to see.

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We can have that kind of conversation.

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We should kind of have a precedent for if we can get another one in the future.

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Yeah.

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Really getting the money for years or something.

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Yeah.

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It's pretty rare.

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I mean, both.

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I mean, I'd say I've been here a long time.

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People just pick up the phone and call me.

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I'm just happy to walk and feel it down.

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All right.

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Does anyone else have any information you'd like to share?

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That things going on.

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costume reps and tell us about, you should know that, new, other than your finals were coming up to you.

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Some are going to share it. That is very important. John, you're about to go to do some more

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maintenance work on the trees you planted last fall in Crossmen. Correct. See you. That's great. Thank you.

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And then I just want, I don't know if this is relevant to fall structure. It was someone

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I've been scouting everywhere like this new beach, new Disney's that's going around, it was like a big thing in Fairfax County, like recently I don't know if that's an issue here now too.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Those are Fairfax's.

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Yeah.

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An transition to each one.

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There's one in the park.

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There's a nice little beach.

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And there's one on the chair.

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Yeah.

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It's a nice boat.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There's an old chair.

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and on in Crossman Park at the Jefferson Connector Trail.

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Yes, yes, yes.

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Yes, we have a few, but we haven't had that much.

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We don't have more stands to them, so it's, you know, we're not likely to be effective

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but I appreciate bringing it up, but it's something that every time I walk around

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I look at the beach trees and just check on.

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I don't know, I was changing the topic, so other, some other feedback, but, yeah,

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it was from the beach.

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You know, there's a specific shirt that I wouldn't recommend.

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I wouldn't recommend.

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There's something on bar, what's the, what's the, what's the tell? Can you tell?

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What's the special?

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Do we use, who, who, who, who, who, who start to look funky, like different different ways?

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Yeah, like what's your call, what's the new question?

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It was the GG, the Zoning sites.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Is it an insect or a...

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Oh, it's a...

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The Gorg's caused by a worm.

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Okay.

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We'll take a chance.

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Yeah.

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I mean, we...

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But we haven't had really a...

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a health report about what is what is the main diseases and things that affect other

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than the opposite of that. The animal ash block was a huge money to downpour a lot of stuff.

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Yeah. And what's our second one? The Oakwoods, maybe?

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Probably woodie dolls that look like a box.

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And then on.

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I have a few calls about a sudden oak to climb, so that's still kind of affecting us, but it's kind of tapering off.

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Okay. I think our weather kind of balanced back out from that. So all of the ones that got hit, I think they're mostly.

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Thought that there was one, there's one I'm going to have to call me.

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Okay, that's down. I mean, I'm not sure if it's city year or not, so whenever they're in thought to them.

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Okay. Thank you.

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So all I was going to say was that Charlotte, I don't know if it's time again coming up

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for a spot at Lampon.

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I just wanted to say something like that, but it did make me think, because someone had said

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recently about how good it was to work with the Arborist's office and how they didn't really

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know about the Arborist in general, and then it raised in my mind since focom has been doing

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more about highlighting different city functions or city personnel that if we were to potentially do

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something around spotted lantern fly, that it could be a good opportunity for cars to kind of

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potentially have a spot on the, what is, you know, what is the work of the artist's office or

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one should people be contacting you about city trees, for example, because this person seemed to say

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they kind of didn't realize, but they should have been doing with them, they found that they

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should be in contact with you, but they wouldn't have really gone about to otherwise,

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like those sorts of considerations that if they're some, some legal kind of bring awareness

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and do it within that, for both, you know, overall effort of maintaining our treaties and maintaining

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the free isn't, from really caring for trees, I don't know. Well, I'm surprised to hear that

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is when a switler and black first came through my number of email,

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we're kind of sort of accidentally, unintentionally,

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maybe put on the flyer, and that's all I did all day

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was what an email was.

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I was like, oh, I was like, oh, what's going on?

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I found it on social media.

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And I was like, you got to take this to me.

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Yeah, well, I think this was unrelated to switler and length.

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You know, I was like, I mean, I didn't think that you're like,

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I was just thinking, is there an opportunity

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that if we're going back into that season

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that we could mash it up to a broader awareness effort

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around trying to maintain like a healthy,

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tweaking a folder, the work of the hardware

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system's office and connection with that sort of effort.

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So a public education can be more broadly

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attached to whatever we do with, you know,

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spotting spotting point in terms of why.

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OK.

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Charlie, are you still interested in changing up that slide?

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Totally.

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Cool.

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Yeah.

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just I have the guidelines for the city council go back and review those and make it it's

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probably transfer it to like an echo photo of them maybe you know okay cool that's a great

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and now I'll both of you planning to continue on the report your commission next year yeah

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Yes, I think I think it's cool.

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It's nice to talk.

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It's very safe at that.

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Okay, great.

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Well, I think Erin, actually, if you were sliding this right into this discussion of our 20s,

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it's priorities.

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I think one other thing I did want to say is that I wanted to have a, give you more of an update about the,

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the approved, re-approved code, Virginia code, dealing with trees for placement of trees and

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transmission of trees and trials in our conversation about that.

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It changed a lot of things around and it's kind of a little bit confusing.

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So we're hoping that he and I may be sending lectures on,

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they can have a conversation about it first before I start.

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A lot of them are not about it and we're getting any of it right.

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I don't think it affects us, yes.

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I don't think there's anything that we can pull out of it new.

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but the two things that are important, there's one, two, look, two things that are important is that they

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all of 15.2-961 and 15.2-961.1, the replacement trees, the conservation trees,

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both of them have the same designated requirements for canopy coverage per site. So it goes

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from 10% tree canopy for business commercial,

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all the way up to 30% tree canopy for residential sites,

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which two units are fewer, per acre.

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So that they did normalize that

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that breadth of numbers between the two,

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before it was the first part,

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and I see it's one only when I'm sure you can see it.

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And the second part of conservation when all we have to do is represent now those have been over 30% but it's per few minutes per acre and that's all defined in here. And then the other thing was, is that we were hoping, but it didn't happen was that they allowed in the code previously only the city of Williams for was allowed to do 10%

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20 mcx 3 can't be coverage in 10 years. And that's because that was amended to just only

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a well then back in 2006 or something. The code first came out. It was more open than that,

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which is I think is why we have our 20% or in 10 years piece. So that got changed. So they changed

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But this time in under conservation are only allowing towns to be able to do the same thing, not cities.

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So Williamsburg is still in exception, but now towns such as Vienna can do 20% in 10 years instead of 20 years.

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Who is the logic for towns versus cities?

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Well, first of all, we know that Vienna had been petitioning the state legislature at least a decade or more.

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I don't know how long because they had it, but we had it at first, and then today's changed,

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and so they went and adopted the whole code, which gave them 20% 20 years if they had to do,

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but they had petitioned to ask to be able to give it back. So now they gave them back, but then they gave it to anybody else.

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So I don't know. I thought, I don't know why. I think these things. I can't think of it.

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We're kind of sort of rationally normalized all of this, and it would make a lot of sense.

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And then we just apply to everybody. And I'm like, no, they changed it. So, but we, but

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Amy, they just have the 20% and 10 years. And we're also almost just that it's the, like,

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the code issues that we are always concerned about, right, changing things and whether we're

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going to trigger going into them more relaxed standard by doing things rather than having hours

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alone and then not having to. Well, I mean, I mean, because I guess a couple of towns got

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isn't we already have it. That's right. The previous, I mean, the reason we haven't acted on any

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things because the previous mission is to have a Korean, if we do anything in anything, will

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we trigger something and DQ ever comes after us and says, no, if you're going to go ahead and

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adopt us and adopt us and adopt this, technically, you have to adopt a cook. But you have to just

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go back and do that and go to the regular, you know, whatever. Right. I don't know if that's really

454
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:56,680
the real reason, but it just felt like that was like you kept holding on and holding out to see

455
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,380
what was going to change, because we knew it was going to change. So at any rate, at this moment,

456
00:33:02,460 --> 00:33:08,060
we're not necessarily impacted, I don't think. It's not a trials that may just be that

457
00:33:08,060 --> 00:33:13,100
the code we have now might need some administrative changes to make sure, because everything that we

458
00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:21,560
do now follows under conservation and not, and not replace them anymore. So I don't get it,

459
00:33:21,820 --> 00:33:26,640
but I was hoping maybe Cindy might have, yeah, I suspect. So I didn't say, yeah, I mean,

460
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,540
Cindy, yeah. Well, yeah, maybe it has some insights, but I know that Cindy in, I don't know,

461
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,540
now I wanted to argue on one of the dream. Yeah. I mean, dream meetings, maybe excuse me,

462
00:33:37,540 --> 00:33:46,360
meeting and that's the regular meeting on plans to do sort of a readout of the legislative

463
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:53,720
session. Okay, and is working with Sally in the sort of anticipation of that. Okay, what's

464
00:33:53,720 --> 00:34:00,340
a priority being those things that take effect as of July 1 given like all the different activities.

465
00:34:00,860 --> 00:34:05,450
So, okay, so yeah, so those are the types of effect in what Cindy, yeah, what readouts there may be

466
00:34:05,450 --> 00:34:15,950
That was the long way of saying I wasn't going to go into the long way to go into the long way to go into the long way to go into.

467
00:34:17,590 --> 00:34:30,610
So yes, I see we'll see we can understand anymore because I don't I don't want us to go down that rabbit hole again, if there's really nothing from that we can wrap on to this moment.

468
00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:37,230
But we should at least be aware of what's happening and be able to, you know, speak to what

469
00:34:37,230 --> 00:34:42,210
if we have to, if somebody asks us why we're not doing extra loud to quote, like, well,

470
00:34:43,110 --> 00:34:50,030
because there's really our right now. So anyway, okay, our next discussion will be on our

471
00:34:50,030 --> 00:34:57,430
2026 prayer weeks. I thought this was a perfect time for us to take a look at them again after

472
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:59,850
for our big success in getting.

473
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:07,460
I'm getting that piece of code left slightly new forward in the city for commercial properties and history canopy.

474
00:35:08,820 --> 00:35:15,860
Go back and look to see what we have said. You wanted to try to accomplish and get a sense from any of you.

475
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:25,260
We still have them prioritized. We get a sense from any of you on how we might move forward with some of these.

476
00:35:25,260 --> 00:35:28,720
or we prioritize how to be shuffle our priorities

477
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:31,340
if you think certain things are

478
00:35:31,340 --> 00:35:33,180
risen in importance.

479
00:35:34,060 --> 00:35:36,660
Just basically on the general discussion on where we are

480
00:35:36,660 --> 00:35:39,940
and what you guys think we should do.

481
00:35:39,940 --> 00:35:42,000
You can do it, you can do it, you can work on how to light.

482
00:35:42,940 --> 00:35:43,740
Work on it.

483
00:35:46,690 --> 00:35:48,610
I'm afraid I did not have time to.

484
00:35:48,810 --> 00:35:49,190
Okay, too.

485
00:35:49,850 --> 00:35:51,290
Okay, I'm busy to sleep.

486
00:35:52,490 --> 00:35:53,230
Tim, what do you think?

487
00:35:53,530 --> 00:35:54,950
I think I was a nice inner thing.

488
00:35:56,270 --> 00:35:57,850
You've worked well and it's never good

489
00:35:57,850 --> 00:36:14,150
I mean, more of a but sort of resource dependent, and you know, even in years with sort of a budget surplus we have, you know, we've been invited to this isn't a wish list, and then we've gotten none of that right tonight. So, I mean, sent us a mystery for me.

490
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:44,130
I think one of the things I'm sorry, I don't know what I'm going to think that we were talking about in even recent appointments, kind of committee conversations with potential for people's degree commission candidates was yeah, obviously like things are resources dependent and budget dependent, but you know where places Charles for example is seeing like that we might be able to do

491
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:50,430
things with increasing like fees, right? Like we just went through a review of the permits fees and

492
00:36:50,430 --> 00:36:56,950
hadn't increased them for like over a decade for something like that to do more. And so they

493
00:36:56,950 --> 00:37:02,070
ended up kind of having 30% increases on average. Like they brought them down in certain areas and

494
00:37:02,070 --> 00:37:11,710
they went up in other areas and brought them into to be, you know, more similar to the surrounding

495
00:37:11,710 --> 00:37:17,270
jurisdictions were, and so like those sorts of things where if we have updates to urban

496
00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:24,530
portrait policies that just like when we confronted, well, what does it mean to impose a fee?

497
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:30,290
For someone taking down like the branches and is it high enough or does it correspond to

498
00:37:30,290 --> 00:37:35,990
look what the current costs of things are? That might be, you know, like the place to look at

499
00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:40,490
as, yeah, it shouldn't depend on the budget, it's more of a.

500
00:37:40,490 --> 00:37:41,790
It's like, it's a bit of a misunderstanding.

501
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:45,990
Yeah, so we just increased the fees as part of this year's.

502
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:50,470
There's some way to direct any, you know, share that revenue to.

503
00:37:50,490 --> 00:37:56,510
No, so the purpose of the permits fees like are in the permit fee like reserve and so it tends to pay for people who are

504
00:37:56,510 --> 00:38:05,150
and what's the link-a-shell team and stays part of that work, but but it is something that

505
00:38:05,150 --> 00:38:09,670
the city has looked at, you know, and looking at different these schedules and I've raised

506
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:14,410
with the City Manager's office in terms of other places, including coming out of like that

507
00:38:14,410 --> 00:38:19,650
tree appeal, um, is it an appropriate time given that we're looking at other things and whether

508
00:38:19,650 --> 00:38:24,830
the bees are outdated and don't reflect the current cost of things, but as it sounds

509
00:38:24,830 --> 00:38:31,330
and we should be looking at, but these are, I don't know, so, you know, so what the enforcement

510
00:38:31,330 --> 00:38:38,410
mechanisms are, Charles, like, then, exist, whether the penalties are, what they are, whether

511
00:38:38,410 --> 00:38:44,090
the B schedules, cover, or what the costs of things are, like, those are things that we might

512
00:38:44,090 --> 00:38:50,210
want to look at, just to update, even though, I don't know, you know, marginal impact if any

513
00:38:50,210 --> 00:39:06,310
what actually happens. And then I think in those interviews, we were also talking, you know, about things like, this is not going to spend money right now to go out and hire a consultant to develop an urban forestry management plan.

514
00:39:07,010 --> 00:39:17,370
But, you know, it may make sense to still collect the management plans that have been done from like surrounding jurisdictions and see what's in there.

515
00:39:17,370 --> 00:39:24,630
the MD did something pretty recently, and other jurisdictions have similar plans and so there

516
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:30,210
may be things that make sense to put on an agenda and say, let's vote the ML, let's

517
00:39:30,210 --> 00:39:35,290
pull City of Fairfax and see when their plans look like how much of this would actually

518
00:39:35,290 --> 00:39:42,010
need to be updated or what is the benefit of something like this that you're backing so that

519
00:39:42,010 --> 00:39:49,110
you know, we're able to kind of present that information in terms of the value of an urban forestry,

520
00:39:49,110 --> 00:39:52,730
management plan and a way that doesn't feel as like extra act for,

521
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:57,330
why wouldn't we spend money different this, or how can we piggyback on something that

522
00:39:57,330 --> 00:39:59,950
Vienna or City of Fairfax have done? So that's what we're talking about.

523
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:12,240
It shouldn't be as costly if we're really only looking to get, like, the one chapter that matters for what we're trying to accomplish rather than, like, the seven chapter plan, where things that the chapters are straight forward.

524
00:40:12,540 --> 00:40:14,020
We shouldn't need to read you in the wheel.

525
00:40:14,020 --> 00:40:17,180
You know, suggest we plagiarize from neighbors.

526
00:40:17,980 --> 00:40:18,060
Yeah.

527
00:40:18,060 --> 00:40:18,520
Yeah.

528
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:22,400
I'm going to be in the formation by Fairfax City Fairfax and Arlington.

529
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,380
Please feel on the work.

530
00:40:24,540 --> 00:40:27,480
I remember what that was very,

531
00:40:28,580 --> 00:40:31,100
that seems sort of grandiose.

532
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:34,200
Yeah.

533
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,680
I haven't really dealt a dove in the sea of New Orleans.

534
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,700
I haven't looked into Fairfax.

535
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,060
They just passed it.

536
00:40:41,060 --> 00:40:43,300
I mean, they're pretty good.

537
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,600
They're not, they're not in the industry.

538
00:40:45,380 --> 00:40:47,260
So they all just feel like we're similar.

539
00:40:47,740 --> 00:40:49,340
But I mean, I'm just like, right?

540
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:53,280
Like it's sort of an action, you know, from meetings that you can say,

541
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,440
let's pull to with these, let's introduce them and meeting between meeting.

542
00:40:57,660 --> 00:41:01,500
I mean, we could kind of look at it and see what we think is a value of it.

543
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:09,360
And what would we want, you know, to try to incorporate that's lacking from our practices as value out into the exact amount able to.

544
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:14,140
right, where it is in a like, let's get City Council to try it out, give us money or

545
00:41:14,140 --> 00:41:19,700
adopt the idea of doing an urban forestry management plan. So it's like a plan light that

546
00:41:19,700 --> 00:41:20,520
you can play for us.

547
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:27,460
I'm sorry, just to declare by the fees that are being reconsidered or what fees. Oh, the

548
00:41:27,460 --> 00:41:36,700
fees that we just, yeah, the fees that we just increased were most of the permit, the other

549
00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:43,620
new documentation that's been happening is the tree canopy assessment plans. That's what you

550
00:41:43,620 --> 00:41:50,380
can see from many different jurisdictions. We've done one company because as far as I can tell

551
00:41:51,420 --> 00:41:56,600
and I think there are a lot of those expensive because they just try to do a general understanding

552
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:02,400
of your tree can't be and then give you got to mind on how to increase it and all that kind of stuff.

553
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,280
But those are, it seems to me, those documents were being used

554
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,740
in more public ways, because people could then see them

555
00:42:11,740 --> 00:42:15,280
as something like a validation or non-validation

556
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,300
about what's happening with chief,

557
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,680
as opposed to the management plan,

558
00:42:18,780 --> 00:42:21,200
which is a much broader session

559
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,600
about all kinds of parts of the early morning industry.

560
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,780
For the process and love of love,

561
00:42:27,780 --> 00:42:29,620
it's something that is important, like,

562
00:42:29,620 --> 00:42:36,300
this right here. So yeah, that's not bad. Yeah, we do a little bit of research and try to

563
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:42,300
just compile. I'm going to put it in your report. We'd like to see what kind of information

564
00:42:42,300 --> 00:42:49,720
I'd like to see to me. I'm sure I can can chat just to this out for us. Yeah, no.

565
00:42:56,380 --> 00:42:58,680
I thought you could

566
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:05,520
But you're not sure, as far as, I think, it's not very hard for you.

567
00:43:09,260 --> 00:43:12,700
You know, there's a 17-by-first century kind of base.

568
00:43:13,020 --> 00:43:13,420
I don't know.

569
00:43:14,140 --> 00:43:16,440
That's how you feel like you have the trees.

570
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:23,580
Yeah, so the system plans, because they're not management plans.

571
00:43:23,940 --> 00:43:25,720
They don't have to go through the public process.

572
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:32,360
mental plan is to go to the public. And that's a whole other thing. Right. Yeah, and that is the

573
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:38,600
lift that has a thing that's often. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That handles the follow-up

574
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,840
close to the city of Fairfax. I guess kind of in the newsletters, it works out in the food

575
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:47,460
and I talk with fair arborist and she is like, yeah, I mean, they're all the community events

576
00:43:47,460 --> 00:43:54,920
like public outreach. I mean, that is the list. Yeah. The text, the substance, they, you know,

577
00:43:54,920 --> 00:44:00,280
that's pretty easy to lift, but it's all the outreach stuff. I might see it,

578
00:44:02,660 --> 00:44:03,780
but let me ask

579
00:44:03,780 --> 00:44:09,120
around about some outreach stuff with some folks that do a lot. Because I remember honestly

580
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:15,260
that there's, they did pop-ups at all. The farmer's markets, I mean they just did all kinds of

581
00:44:15,260 --> 00:44:21,780
extra communities stuff, but they have a bigger staff, you know. Over junior villagers don't like

582
00:44:21,780 --> 00:44:33,360
There are just one mundane audience, you know, the team lead for that, he's doing a key kind of important kind of all over the place.

583
00:44:34,060 --> 00:44:38,580
Different times, different communities, you know, communication.

584
00:44:39,540 --> 00:44:40,900
So he's...

585
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:46,380
I might be able to use that model and just see what happens.

586
00:44:46,380 --> 00:44:59,740
Okay, well, I think if we could maybe do some research for you and and provide, like, well, you're so what might be nice, if we could get this going, this would be, this will be something that we heard.

587
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:13,700
So, just as a way to validate and support your efforts as well as to see what's out there.

588
00:45:13,700 --> 00:45:31,120
I mean, I'm going to talk to them, so I have some data on week and then, yeah, the only other thing I would say in that Charles, you may be able to provide update on is, yeah, any sort of cross jurisdictional work that

589
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,200
may be continuing to do when we can get in on it.

590
00:45:35,260 --> 00:45:36,240
I know, you know,

591
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,780
flooding, for example, with Northern Virginia.

592
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,620
Regional commission, where these kind of issues come up,

593
00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:44,660
what's true canopy you're talking about,

594
00:45:44,740 --> 00:45:48,420
right should there be, you know, fly over.

595
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,000
And then you know, we just get incorporated into it

596
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,340
as opposed to having to do our own thing.

597
00:45:54,420 --> 00:45:58,580
And we're trying to kind of understand regional needs.

598
00:45:58,580 --> 00:46:05,680
that we are not just, I'm, I'm places in the budget to take this on for ourselves.

599
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,000
Yeah, and there it is. Yeah, I'm part of the Trudecan piece of committee for cog.

600
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,060
And so we're having a lot of discussions about that.

601
00:46:13,260 --> 00:46:18,060
We're trying to get our action items that we're going to, our recommendations, my apologies.

602
00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:23,440
Our recommendations kind of end up then ready to shoot off the Red Sipsies.

603
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:24,360
Oh, good.

604
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:31,560
in progress. Yeah. So maybe my July and no. I think that is a joy or always. I think it is the

605
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:39,760
deadline. I think I should probably just had a meeting with them this week. Okay. Yeah, I'll

606
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:47,580
give you a better time on next. Okay. Okay. Excellent. That's it. You all. Thanks, Jack.

607
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,680
a nice funeral day. Thank you.

608
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,260
Hope to see you at the freezing and I'm really excited to hear that.

609
00:46:55,260 --> 00:46:56,740
You're not away, so we can't do that.

610
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,320
Whether holds. Yes, right. Bye.

611
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,080
Okay.

612
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:02,880
Okay.

613
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:03,300
All right.

614
00:47:04,580 --> 00:47:04,820
Okay.

615
00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:10,500
So it sounds like there are the priority of looking into some of these different policies and just familiarising

616
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:14,660
ourselves and maybe being able to make some kind of a comment to you about,

617
00:47:14,660 --> 00:47:30,820
I think this looks good, this looks good, you know, we use any of this that will help with our movement towards making a strong argument for the first way to plan that this is the kind of stuff we'd like to see.

618
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:41,180
This is kind of stuff where we already can get, you know, we already have it out there, we just need to put it into a better public format.

619
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:49,620
And I think, too, for me, I feel like Aaron started with a discussion about this by the

620
00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:50,280
magnify.

621
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:57,720
Yeah, you know, how do we increase public outreach on things, just sort of generally the,

622
00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:03,380
I know we've talked about it this once, that sometimes you'll send stuff to come, you know,

623
00:48:03,420 --> 00:48:09,540
particularly you do a lot of sending things to communications folks about RBA, there was a bunch

624
00:48:09,540 --> 00:48:10,480
of stuff on that.

625
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:24,980
But generally, is there a way to help you figure out sort of a tolerization of different issues that we just kind of come to a agreement that these are the things that if it's possible for them to include.

626
00:48:24,980 --> 00:48:32,620
in a their social media, or any of the news letters, or whatever, because they're popping out.

627
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,100
It's time to water your trees. There's time to do this, or now's a good time to plant, or,

628
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:43,600
you know, whatever sets of things that I know you've done them on your own in the past,

629
00:48:43,740 --> 00:48:49,480
it's sometimes it felt like it was, oh my god, the heat advisory, so bad, but it was something

630
00:48:49,480 --> 00:49:06,480
It's all people who are, you know, is there a way for us to help you rationalize that as a form of community outreach messaging that you, because you've got to be said over and over and over again.

631
00:49:06,620 --> 00:49:07,480
That's right.

632
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,680
And so I don't know that's something that will be a help to you or not.

633
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,740
We'll be pretty helpful, especially from the fresh perspective.

634
00:49:14,740 --> 00:49:19,320
want to be right. It's like I'm kind of stretched in it, right? And our communications

635
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:24,200
department is started kind of calendar. I was just, you know, they're kind of like, hey,

636
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:29,800
it's a proclamation month, right? So they kind of reach out to different people like I will

637
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,260
proclamations, are you doing what we do in private day? Hey, is this we're going to use our

638
00:49:34,260 --> 00:49:40,380
today, so you can also, for recruitment for the board's permission, right, and that was

639
00:49:40,380 --> 00:49:41,180
successful, right?

640
00:49:41,380 --> 00:49:46,540
We have candidate now, so we're, I think they're getting into that rhythm, so yeah,

641
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,360
anything fresh things like, you know, what's the good summer message?

642
00:49:49,580 --> 00:49:51,800
Which could fall message, winter, you know, is a brain.

643
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:57,120
So like, and again, that cycle was in that way I can have, like, kind of just a bank of

644
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,960
ideas when they're like, hey, we're doing,

645
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:05,640
And we just let it out for this month what best we just want that can just kind of pull from that.

646
00:50:05,860 --> 00:50:12,880
Like, what a pie that's very, very quick. Are we having a mile on the summer or are we just, you know, blazing, you know,

647
00:50:12,940 --> 00:50:16,120
hundred degrees for three weeks. So it's a bit of drought.

648
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,680
Right. Yeah. Is the focus, can we go back to the archive?

649
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:20,960
Because it's a focus on,

650
00:50:23,060 --> 00:50:25,620
or not? I can't remember the key in.

651
00:50:25,620 --> 00:50:32,000
I think they're working on that, I don't know, I don't know, for sure.

652
00:50:32,340 --> 00:50:39,920
I'm able to find them on internet archive or something maybe, which generally has a lot of stuff,

653
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:47,140
and they also have, I don't know, internet archive. Yeah, they have like a way back,

654
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:52,920
shame, which is helpful. So I got a lot of access to that. Why do you ask? Because I'm

655
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,060
I'm thinking of just kind of go back and look and see what's been done in the rest of the last.

656
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:57,920
Well, I'll leave.

657
00:50:59,420 --> 00:51:02,240
Just to do a spot check, like before COVID.

658
00:51:03,340 --> 00:51:06,720
Three years in the COVID and maybe just last year this year or something.

659
00:51:07,020 --> 00:51:09,020
Just to see what's come up.

660
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:11,840
We know our base always been in there.

661
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:17,940
But whatever, when other times of you suggested something that needed to be in there, right?

662
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:24,340
So we know what's already been, we believe, we believe, we believe, we believe, we believe, right.

663
00:51:25,820 --> 00:51:28,260
But yeah, I think that would be kind of helpful.

664
00:51:29,060 --> 00:51:32,000
And because I feel like that's one of the things.

665
00:51:32,180 --> 00:51:37,000
It's always falls to the way sides that we're all going to, we're going to do this part of that.

666
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,420
We did the part of it, but then, you know, the communication part of it is always the last piece.

667
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,220
And then everybody's too tired or forget or something and you get it out somewhat,

668
00:51:46,220 --> 00:51:52,840
but not as fully as it would have been nice to have gotten out, but so it might be interesting also

669
00:51:52,840 --> 00:52:00,260
to clarify the business role. In certain things, because when I talk to some people and I

670
00:52:00,260 --> 00:52:03,300
mentioned here, of course, we'd be really like, oh yeah, you guys play in the trees.

671
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,060
And they were in the tree program. I don't think we're going to do that.

672
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,340
They just play in the trees and they were in the tree program.

673
00:52:10,340 --> 00:52:10,660
Yeah.

674
00:52:11,140 --> 00:52:11,540
Cheers.

675
00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:12,240
Let's get started.

676
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:13,860
I mean, it's huge.

677
00:52:14,620 --> 00:52:16,000
But the city's always taken.

678
00:52:16,180 --> 00:52:18,340
Has always had more than 50% of that.

679
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,080
All of a sudden.

680
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,000
Kind of that project.

681
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,320
I mean, I think the business role was ours.

682
00:52:23,460 --> 00:52:24,240
I think like very far.

683
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:24,600
Exactly.

684
00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:25,080
Yeah.

685
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,240
Because what it was that I thought.

686
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:26,700
Right.

687
00:52:26,940 --> 00:52:27,580
That was super.

688
00:52:27,700 --> 00:52:28,040
Yeah.

689
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:28,340
It was super.

690
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:28,740
Yeah.

691
00:52:28,740 --> 00:52:28,880
Yeah.

692
00:52:28,980 --> 00:52:29,200
It was super.

693
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:29,940
Yeah.

694
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,240
Yeah.

695
00:52:40,220 --> 00:52:40,320
Yeah.

696
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:46,900
you know, articulating and talking to the homeowners of bed and doing some of that, but it was still

697
00:52:46,900 --> 00:52:53,220
the herbivore street crew or the herbivore as to when you have to go collect, find the tree that

698
00:52:53,220 --> 00:52:59,920
the person wanted, and then get the troops mounted, once the program became more of a landscaping

699
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:06,140
company. Kind of approaches, opposed to being the whole street gets nutrients, right?

700
00:53:08,060 --> 00:53:14,120
So, yeah, so, it's from public outreach, I think, because yeah, at some point to examine that.

701
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,700
It's not even that kind of understanding. Right. Right.

702
00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:21,080
I mean, it needs to be pretty simply pretty simple at the beginning, and then it got more complex.

703
00:53:22,340 --> 00:53:30,100
But more importantly, what is it now? Right. And now it's just a fox at the moment, because we don't have the capability to do it correctly.

704
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:46,100
So yeah, but yeah, so actually I was just encouraged all of you if you have thoughts about timing on messaging that you think is important about feeling the energy and trees for the public, you know,

705
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:53,020
didn't know to me. We'll start creating a list and that counterized list and we can

706
00:53:53,020 --> 00:53:59,800
match it with things that you know you that we need to get out and then literally a

707
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,060
couple of sentences for a thing. I mean we've shorted.

708
00:54:04,300 --> 00:54:05,320
Yeah, we'll share it.

709
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:06,900
Yeah.

710
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:13,920
It's the words, because it's because of like, on socials, right? You know, it's kind of

711
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:20,300
and short and sweet. It's in the focus, even those are really limited on the length of what the

712
00:54:20,300 --> 00:54:26,500
material is. I just felt the format that I guess is shown to be successful. I suppose,

713
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,020
you know, it doesn't have been complicated and be a little obscure or like, you know,

714
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:39,780
a lot of comment material has the city used for this outreach in the past. Is it so it is social media?

715
00:54:39,780 --> 00:54:44,000
You see media, the photo, the photo, the photo, the photo, the photos, the photos, the photos.

716
00:54:45,340 --> 00:54:46,680
That's basically it.

717
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,920
And we look at the, it's based on graph, right?

718
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:56,640
Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, I think that's all right.

719
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:57,200
Yeah.

720
00:54:57,500 --> 00:54:59,920
Does the city do a newsletter or is that?

721
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,540
That was the last question.

722
00:55:01,540 --> 00:55:04,700
I was so good. Yeah. I'm a redhead of kind of to... Yeah.

723
00:55:04,700 --> 00:55:08,920
I now get a threat of the grand year for a long time before I was aware of the system.

724
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,140
And you just got on the heat motor far away.

725
00:55:11,340 --> 00:55:12,760
But I had to pay.

726
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:19,000
Right. And there used to be an environment fosterage news that are that stopped around.

727
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:20,940
I think it stopped.

728
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,060
Twenty, twenty, fourteen, something like that.

729
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,520
Yeah. And it was in paid for this paper.

730
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:28,060
And then I think we did.

731
00:55:28,860 --> 00:55:32,480
I think that came out, I think that was in that

732
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,220
Nils' great-grandchild.

733
00:55:34,580 --> 00:55:39,560
It was coming out of recycling or public works with your site.

734
00:55:39,780 --> 00:55:41,900
I mean, but then a lot of other stuff was in there, too,

735
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,620
about trees, all of everything you could think of as in there.

736
00:55:45,220 --> 00:55:46,320
It was really nice of a little bit of a sliver,

737
00:55:46,460 --> 00:55:51,360
and then it just could be that up when she left and stuff.

738
00:55:53,300 --> 00:55:56,820
So, but all these other social media formats have also,

739
00:55:59,180 --> 00:56:04,180
So there were other places to be able to put bits of pieces, but not just that.

740
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,220
There wasn't that being one, one who saw the right one.

741
00:56:09,740 --> 00:56:10,680
So yeah, there's that.

742
00:56:10,700 --> 00:56:12,380
And we've often talked about it here.

743
00:56:12,580 --> 00:56:16,860
We keep talking about, we know that there are a lot of lists of neighborhoods.

744
00:56:17,580 --> 00:56:19,560
A lot of neighborhoods have there on this serves.

745
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:22,360
And I think we've gathered a few elements at one point.

746
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,980
I know they can change, and that's why it's so hard to use those.

747
00:56:25,980 --> 00:56:31,720
You know, but people are like, these are great because like, all my people get this, you know, and I'm like,

748
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:41,700
that's wonderful. And I don't remember if there's any community development organization that tries to keep track of that kind of stuff.

749
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,840
You know, I don't know.

750
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:44,460
I just doubt it.

751
00:56:44,580 --> 00:56:44,800
Yeah.

752
00:56:44,820 --> 00:56:45,880
It was some conflict.

753
00:56:46,900 --> 00:56:55,320
So we were a little stopped sometimes because we know there are other ways that people can get information and they like to get it from their each other.

754
00:56:55,320 --> 00:57:02,400
If we could get it to one person, they'd share it, but we don't think they're able to do a few like that.

755
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,580
So yeah, there's the posture to this press or the other posture.

756
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,120
I don't think it's independent.

757
00:57:11,540 --> 00:57:14,560
Yeah, I mean, those could I don't know.

758
00:57:15,060 --> 00:57:16,820
Yeah, those could be worthwhile.

759
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:23,280
We did have Sandy Tarpenian who was running the National Railway Federation liaison

760
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:30,080
the city's program. She and I helped her a little bit. She had been editing on what

761
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:39,040
were two different articles on environmental issues and was getting those to be the independent

762
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:48,720
of the news press thing. So, and that she's able to sustain that maybe for two years or so, but

763
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:55,000
was a lot of work. Getting people to write stuff out, editing it, getting it to the time and all that.

764
00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:01,100
I don't know how wide it. Yeah, and so they, you know, they were happy to have them and stuff,

765
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:06,720
but it was like we need, and the students at the high school wanted to even provide stuff to the

766
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:12,880
boss, which is for us, too, on like tips, you know, environmental tips with different things.

767
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:17,760
I don't know where that went. Because again, you have to have somebody who's able to like keep

768
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,600
the schedule and make sure it gets done and all that kind of stuff.

769
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,780
So I don't think they got getting to be those with your work,

770
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,460
which was that total of our two.

771
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,240
Yeah, weekly content is challenging.

772
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:29,940
Oh, challenging.

773
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:31,340
Yeah.

774
00:58:31,580 --> 00:58:36,080
In the high school, do we think there's any way that we can try to do outreach

775
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:41,320
to the rules of the song because I know that like my mom teaches first grade

776
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,040
and she teaching her kids about plants and other,

777
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,340
like so enthusiastic, they're like, you know,

778
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,140
point yourself out on playground to earn all that.

779
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,320
So I feel like that, you know, we, we should,

780
00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:57,660
good be a focus, kids, really like to tell people stuff.

781
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:02,180
Yeah, so that's also the school about once a year.

782
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,400
So like there is some idea of connections to the teachers, actually.

783
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,600
I just spoke with a woman on the phone, the other day,

784
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,100
my reputation receives me.

785
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:15,080
is whenever students told the teacher all about me

786
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,960
and she actually had a question about what you're

787
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:18,440
under property.

788
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:19,520
So yeah.

789
00:59:19,740 --> 00:59:22,280
So this work has come first that we're going to

790
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:23,940
kind of like a vast majority of years.

791
00:59:24,860 --> 00:59:25,020
So right.

792
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,700
We had everything we could do some outreach with the school.

793
00:59:28,100 --> 00:59:28,200
Yeah.

794
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,000
Well, I would like to do more.

795
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,780
But just resource-wise.

796
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:33,640
Yeah.

797
00:59:34,140 --> 00:59:34,340
Yeah.

798
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,060
There's going to be like getting a staff right

799
00:59:37,060 --> 00:59:45,180
for the last so over to my school's yeah I mean or in the morning announcements

800
00:59:45,180 --> 00:59:48,260
in one of the announcements I know I should want to yeah I know definitely

801
00:59:48,260 --> 00:59:54,200
log people be those and just my Daniel have outdoor classroom still or no

802
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,860
oh well that's okay I don't think so that's very disappointing it's been a while so this

803
00:59:58,860 --> 00:59:59,880
I have the nerve but yeah

804
01:00:00,180 --> 01:00:15,680
That was good. It was very good. It was very good, and very, I think, good, especially for kids for our, I passed the day. But yeah, that was the environmental group, the kids that I could probably do, or the operator for the last year.

805
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,140
Yeah, there's so much going on. Yeah, there is.

806
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:26,740
Yeah, there is. I don't know how many students are participating right now, but they've been managing to keep it kind of going.

807
01:00:27,260 --> 01:00:32,840
So yeah, some of that and it's another group of people that is just sending them information could be helped.

808
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,380
Yeah, so it's been one of the announcements on my screen.

809
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,100
Well, there you go.

810
01:00:39,460 --> 01:00:40,520
Perfect. Perfect.

811
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:41,800
There's a place.

812
01:00:42,220 --> 01:00:43,400
Yes. Oh, sorry.

813
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,100
I know it's really hard to regulate regular articles.

814
01:00:46,420 --> 01:00:53,660
But if you have like a talent or like not an advertisement, but just like a visual future like within this time of the years,

815
01:00:53,660 --> 01:00:56,000
which I need to do this, like a full article.

816
01:00:56,820 --> 01:00:56,860
Yeah.

817
01:00:56,860 --> 01:00:59,160
I feel like that would be like doing that,

818
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,780
like almost putting the same post to you on social media.

819
01:01:03,380 --> 01:01:05,460
I think that and the news perhaps would be.

820
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,340
Yeah. Well, that's exactly what the students had

821
01:01:07,340 --> 01:01:09,800
they were going to do and then they just make it together.

822
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,060
And then we were going to discuss the free space

823
01:01:12,060 --> 01:01:14,120
for, you know, in public service and other stuff.

824
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:19,620
At the time, we were working with one of the staff writers,

825
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,780
who really wanted to see more environmental stuff there.

826
01:01:21,780 --> 01:01:24,340
And so they were willing to do this.

827
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,860
I think you have to renegotiate that conversation with them.

828
01:01:27,940 --> 01:01:30,020
That's what it is, but I don't believe it on how many more.

829
01:01:30,820 --> 01:01:32,780
It's not quite as good as we do now.

830
01:01:33,140 --> 01:01:33,480
Yeah.

831
01:01:33,740 --> 01:01:36,920
I think free space is probably not in a reach.

832
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:37,600
Oh, yeah.

833
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,700
I don't think it's something that something should for us,

834
01:01:40,740 --> 01:01:41,360
you know, somebody.

835
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:43,340
Yeah, I don't.

836
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:44,880
I mean, there is, of course, the library.

837
01:01:45,220 --> 01:01:46,640
And I mean, there's a lot in there.

838
01:01:46,900 --> 01:01:48,920
But library, there are always things to work.

839
01:01:49,420 --> 01:01:50,500
Yeah, that's right.

840
01:01:50,740 --> 01:01:51,080
That's right.

841
01:01:51,080 --> 01:02:20,120
So, okay, so that I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I throw that out because Aaron, you know, mentioned the spot of my offline. How do we, you know, I thought, well, maybe we could do a little brainstorming if everybody could think of some specific things that they, they themselves as homeowners or as just interested in trees and want to know, is this the time to do this, you know, it would be nice to know that and maybe make up a calendar of topics with few sentences for topic.

842
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:26,260
And then you can double check it with what you think is also important, and then you can give it to a communications.

843
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,660
Yeah, no, I mean, that's a guidance, you know?

844
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:35,740
Yeah, absolutely, but just have like a good seasonal list, yeah, I mean, I can just, yeah, but all of the students, you know,

845
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:41,180
where you need to say messenger every year, when that always takes an amazing, is don't plan.

846
01:02:41,780 --> 01:02:44,620
Don't put plants in before mother's days, get out of crops, right?

847
01:02:44,620 --> 01:02:46,600
like something that somebody that's somewhere there.

848
01:02:47,020 --> 01:02:48,820
Oh, I should be.

849
01:02:49,260 --> 01:02:50,220
I don't play there.

850
01:02:50,220 --> 01:02:54,160
Washington, it was been running the top gantests in the DC area,

851
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,100
you know, annual basis for like 40 years.

852
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:58,100
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

853
01:02:58,100 --> 01:02:59,080
And that's for restaurants.

854
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:00,340
And it's home, either way.

855
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,100
You know, yeah, that's stuff.

856
01:03:02,780 --> 01:03:04,120
We should play it every year.

857
01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:05,340
Yeah, oh, right over again.

858
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:06,920
Yeah, he's out with viable.

859
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:07,640
Totally bad.

860
01:03:07,900 --> 01:03:09,460
And I really feel like our communication departments

861
01:03:09,460 --> 01:03:12,620
were really kind of feeling that by the gazelle is.

862
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,540
And if the message is still relevant,

863
01:03:16,740 --> 01:03:19,320
I mean, why try to make a fresh message every year.

864
01:03:19,580 --> 01:03:19,940
I'm telling that.

865
01:03:20,300 --> 01:03:22,360
You have it like really good in photography.

866
01:03:22,540 --> 01:03:24,680
We use the false flush to land or flies.

867
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:25,760
I'm going to bummer.

868
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:27,120
Yeah.

869
01:03:28,300 --> 01:03:30,240
I guess we're not going to touch that one.

870
01:03:30,580 --> 01:03:32,620
But it's a happy day.

871
01:03:33,980 --> 01:03:37,060
We have plant trees that's been clashed for you.

872
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:37,420
Yes.

873
01:03:37,420 --> 01:03:38,820
You get trees from Harvard,

874
01:03:38,820 --> 01:03:42,800
You know, beef is at the farmer's market and plant them now.

875
01:03:42,940 --> 01:03:43,740
Yes, I'm telling.

876
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:44,700
Cries and trees.

877
01:03:46,020 --> 01:03:47,180
So there was the farmer's market.

878
01:03:47,900 --> 01:03:49,000
There's a way to, right?

879
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:49,760
You out of there.

880
01:03:50,820 --> 01:03:50,940
Yeah.

881
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,700
And then, like, in a fall, like a vision of farmers for a free day,

882
01:03:54,100 --> 01:03:56,700
but, you know, seed collection where you can bring them in.

883
01:03:56,820 --> 01:03:59,080
So I think that one does kind of encourage,

884
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,940
and also promote a period of free seed and program, right?

885
01:04:02,060 --> 01:04:05,100
Because I'm kind of, you know, pretty happy with it.

886
01:04:05,500 --> 01:04:05,640
Yeah.

887
01:04:05,900 --> 01:04:06,020
Yeah.

888
01:04:06,020 --> 01:04:10,380
And then we really, can I be, and I think sometimes

889
01:04:10,380 --> 01:04:13,640
they're kind of, everyone's busy, so it's hard for people

890
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,300
to come with ideas to give kind of a sense.

891
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,260
So even though I thought, you know, it's a good idea.

892
01:04:17,740 --> 01:04:21,120
Well, if you just come about, it's kind of automated on a news.

893
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:26,580
Yeah, and it's true that while we have all of these places that

894
01:04:26,580 --> 01:04:30,720
information flows, it's like there's these little interstitial spaces

895
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,960
that the information is to get to, and it only gets there

896
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:42,280
people trust the information and it's getting into that, right? And so, I mean, to go back to basics to

897
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:48,260
be a platform to market or be where I'm trying to get into people that you know, living next

898
01:04:48,260 --> 01:04:55,520
door to you, there's a, there's a pointy announcement, right? That still applies a lot in some of this,

899
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,020
that ultimately is environmental information,

900
01:04:58,680 --> 01:04:59,680
people need to feel with it.