[0:00] MALE SPEAKER: Tomorrow is a national holiday, Constitution [0:04] Day, and I lived a good portion of my life [0:10] without even realizing that. [0:12] But I'm going to start and just read the preamble [0:15] of the US Constitution. [0:18] And it states, "We, the people of the United States, [0:22] in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, [0:27] ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, [0:33] promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty [0:37] to ourselves and to our prosperity, [0:44] do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United [0:47] States of America." [0:48] So with that in mind, and with all of the discourse that we've [0:56] had over the last several weeks, I just [1:00] want to remind everybody that we do [1:03] live in a truly remarkable republic [1:06] and we are truly blessed. [1:09] And I pray that we can find common unity, [1:16] discuss our differences in a fair, open, and non-violent way. [1:22] [1:26] Regardless of where we're at on the political side-- [1:29] left, right, conservative, liberal-- [1:33] I think we all agree that violence is not the answer [1:38] and it just leads to our broken country. [1:41] So with that in mind, I would like to just [1:44] do a moment of silence to pray for our country, [1:48] Pray for Charlie Burke's widow, his family, [1:52] and pray for healing. [1:55] So let's just take one moment of silence [1:58] and say a prayer for our country. [2:00] [2:13] Thank you. [2:14] We'll start with the Pledge. [2:16] [2:20] ALL: I pledge allegiance to the flag, of the United States [2:24] of America, and to the Republic for which [2:26] it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty [2:31] and justice for all. [2:32] [2:38] MALE SPEAKER: At each committee of the whole work session, [2:40] the floor will be open to solicit [2:42] public comments on items on the agenda [2:45] after they have been presented. [2:47] A comment card will need to be filled out prior to speaking. [2:50] Public comments will be limited to three minutes for each person [2:55] upon the discretion of the county board chairperson. [2:59] And we will start with roll call, I guess. [3:05] FEMALE SPEAKER: Mallika? [3:06] MALE SPEAKER: Yes. [3:07] FEMALE SPEAKER: Peters? [3:07] MALE SPEAKER: Here. [3:08] FEMALE SPEAKER: Hoisington? [3:09] MALE SPEAKER: Here. [3:10] FEMALE SPEAKER: Perfeerst? [3:10] MALE SPEAKER: Here. [3:11] FEMALE SPEAKER: Underdahl. [3:12] MALE SPEAKER: Here. [3:13] MALE SPEAKER: First on our agenda [3:15] is property tax and elections. [3:18] But Denise is not going to speak. [3:19] I believe Dean is on Circle Lake, Rice County. [3:22] [3:32] DEAN: Good morning, gentlemen. [3:33] MALE SPEAKER: Good morning. [3:34] MALE SPEAKER: Morning. [3:35] DEAN: This is your update for the Circle Lake [3:37] Improvement District for 2025. [3:40] I do have Cheryl Bonsen. [3:42] She's our treasurer here with me today, [3:44] and Bill Houston, he's our vice chair to back me up today [3:49] on today's presentation. [3:52] We'll go to the next slide. [3:54] And it's just a reminder of what the Circle Lake Improvement [3:59] District is trying to do, and that's [4:01] to improve the water quality of the lake [4:04] to the point where we can get off the and [4:07] MPCA's impaired waters list. [4:10] We go to the next slide, just to remind you [4:14] our four critical impairments. [4:18] And then the next slide, those four critical impairments [4:22] are what causes or contributes to the cyanobacteria [4:25] or blue-green algae and foul odor [4:28] that we have out on the lake through the summer season [4:31] occasionally. [4:33] We can move to the next slide. [4:35] Our solution is a three pronged approach. [4:37] I've talked to you about this before through the years, [4:42] as we've tried to identify the problems [4:44] and try to figure out what exactly we can do [4:48] to resolve them, we've come up with this three [4:50] pronged approach. [4:52] We need to get air, dissolved oxygen into the lake. [4:57] So we need to aerate the lake. [4:59] There are products that will sequester the phosphorus or make [5:02] the phosphorus that is in the lake-- and we have way too [5:06] much phosphorus in this lake-- [5:07] sequester that. [5:09] And then there are biological agents [5:11] that we can add to the lake to help digest that muck that's [5:15] in the bottom of the lake. [5:17] So before I move on to the next slide, [5:20] the phosphorus sequestration effort [5:23] was something that we had in front [5:24] of you, actually, this year. [5:26] We had a company present a proposal to us [5:30] for adding a phosphorus sequestration agent to the lake. [5:36] It was far, far too expensive for us to fund on our own. [5:39] So they were helping us get a grant proposal in front [5:44] of Congresswoman Jenny Craig. [5:48] We asked for letters of support for us [5:52] and for that grant application. [5:55] We want to make sure that you know [5:57] how much we appreciate the letter that you [5:59] had Sarah draft on our behalf. [6:03] We had almost 30 residents and businesses [6:06] around the lake that wrote letters of support [6:08] for this effort. [6:10] Clean Water Partners wrote a letter of support [6:13] for this effort, and also the Sheriff's Department weighed in. [6:18] So all of those letters of support [6:20] went in with this grant application to Jenny Craig, [6:24] to Congresswoman Craig to help us get that funded. [6:30] But unfortunately, we didn't make the cut. [6:34] We didn't make it. [6:37] So we'll move on to the next slide [6:39] to talk about the three pronged approach, I mentioned before. [6:45] We've tried to fund it as a whole package. [6:48] It's been way too expensive, so we've had to break [6:51] it into individual segments. [6:54] So the first segment that we've started to focus on this year [6:56] is aeration. [6:57] We can move on to the next slide. [7:00] And then it looks like this this year-- onto the next slide. [7:05] It's a combination of a surface aerator. [7:08] And I've labeled this incorrectly, the nano bubbler. [7:11] It's actually a small bubble diffuser and nanobubbler [7:15] or small bubble diffuser. [7:16] It just talks to the size of the bubbles [7:18] that these units are producing. [7:22] That fine bubble diffuser is a little bit bigger bubble [7:24] than the nanobubbler, so that was [7:26] my mistake when I labeled that. [7:28] But between these two units, they [7:30] create a large bubble of aerated water [7:39] that is then moved throughout the lake [7:42] as the water flows throughout the lake. [7:46] This will ultimately, and going into 2026, [7:51] will actually be three of these fine bubble diffusers that [7:53] will circle a surface aerator. [7:57] And we're going to deploy them in three different spots. [8:01] So we'll go on to the next slide. [8:04] This is currently where the aerator is located. [8:07] The DO recorder is taking dissolved oxygen readings [8:13] at three different levels in the lake, [8:14] and we're seeing results from this, just this first unit-- [8:18] this kind of prototype unit-- [8:20] We're seeing results of this aeration moving out at 400 feet [8:25] away from the unit right now. [8:26] We've measured it at 200 feet. [8:28] We've measured it at 400 feet. [8:30] And we'll continue moving the DO recorders out until we [8:35] find the limit as to what this oxygen plume, [8:39] this bubble of dissolved oxygen in the water, how far it moves. [8:43] And it's moving from the surface all the way [8:46] down to the bottom of the lake. [8:47] So we're really excited about the success [8:50] that we're having with this. [8:52] If we'll go up to the next slide, [8:56] the white arrows are the maps. [8:58] This is how the water flows through Circle Lake. [9:02] So the red dot is where the aerator is currently located. [9:07] The blue dot down here on the bottom on the right, [9:10] if you move that dot to the right a little bit, [9:13] or to the east, that's where the next unit will go for 2026. [9:17] And again, it will be a single surface [9:19] aerator surrounded by three small bubble diffusers. [9:23] And then up at the top, that blue dot [9:27] is where we will locate another unit, same as the others. [9:31] And then, as we watch this project develop, [9:37] there are a couple other locations where [9:39] we might add a total of five. [9:41] We're just figuring out how effective this is [9:44] and how far this dissolved oxygen moves out. [9:48] And we have to have this dissolved oxygen in the lake [9:51] for the lake to be healthy, so that it can continue to support [9:54] not only the wildlife in there in the lake, [9:57] but the bacteria that's in the lake [10:00] that helps dissolve the muck. [10:03] And also, the fact that when the oxygen in the lake [10:09] goes to 0 at the bottom, that's how that phosphorus gets [10:12] released. [10:13] That phosphorus is what the algae uses to grow and bloom. [10:17] And then the cycle of foul odor and foul water continues. [10:22] So that's our plan, as far as the three pronged approach. [10:26] We may-- depending on how this works out, [10:30] there are some biological agents where we might have some test [10:34] spots where we add some of that just to see how effective [10:37] these different products work as far as digesting the muck [10:40] in the bottom of the lake. [10:42] And that's something that we're looking at as well. [10:44] So that's what we've worked at on the aeration [10:48] aspect of our three pronged approach for 2025. [10:53] Moving on to the next slide, we're [10:54] talking about weeds for 2025. [10:57] The next slide is the areas that we treated for weeds. [11:01] It's curly leaf pondweed that is our major invasive species. [11:05] We have a little bit of milfoil, but it's basically [11:08] mostly curly pondweed. [11:10] The area in green hash there is where we treated, [11:13] came to about 93 acres this year, and it was very effective. [11:18] And beyond that initial flush of weeds that we took care [11:22] of with the herbicide treatment, our weeds this year [11:24] have been very, very minimal. [11:26] And so that's worked out really, really well. [11:31] That weed project was funded by a $5,000 grant [11:35] that came through Rice County. [11:37] And then the Circle Lake Association gave us $12,000 [11:42] to put towards weed control. [11:44] We did not get a grant from the DNR this year for weeds. [11:47] We didn't get one last year. [11:49] We didn't get one this year, same thing. [11:51] It's a lottery and we just didn't get picked. [11:54] So that's how that works. [11:57] The hazard buoys, hazard to navigation buoys are out there. [12:04] We want to make sure that the Sheriff's [12:08] Department, Nathan Bodine-- [12:10] if you can, Joe, let them know how much we appreciate it-- [12:14] if we go to the next slide-- [12:15] appreciate them. [12:17] They put the buoys out for us in the spring [12:19] and they retrieve them in the fall. [12:23] We'll be setting that up here pretty soon. [12:25] So, Joe, if you let the Sheriff's Office [12:26] know how much we appreciate that-- the water patrol-- [12:29] thank you. [12:30] We move on to the next slide, and I [12:32] wanted to let you know that the Circle Lake Improvement District [12:35] now has a quarterly newsletter. [12:38] Bill Houston is our editor on that. [12:41] He does a really great job. [12:42] That was included in your meeting packet. [12:45] What you see here is just kind of half of the front page, [12:47] but it's in your meeting packet if you'd care to look at that. [12:50] It's a great educational tool and vehicle that we [12:55] get out to the community. [12:56] It's available to them all the time through our website, [12:59] and so we're real happy that Bill is doing this and getting [13:04] that information out there. [13:06] So we'll move to the next slide. [13:10] For 2026, this is what we're looking at to do. [13:13] [13:17] The one thing I haven't spoken about is any watershed projects. [13:20] We are looking at into watershed projects [13:23] as they come to our attention. [13:25] And then the next slide is our financial. [13:30] So I'll stop right here and ask, is there any questions [13:32] about what I've covered so far, what we've done for 2025 [13:35] and what we're looking like we're going to do for '26? [13:38] No? [13:39] MALE SPEAKER: Go ahead. [13:40] MALE SPEAKER: Mr. Chair, thank you. [13:42] Dean, my question is, treating for this muck, [13:46] what happens to it? [13:48] DEAN: It just biodegrades, but it can't do it without oxygen. [13:52] MALE SPEAKER: But what is in the muck? [13:53] Sand and just dirt? [13:55] DEAN: Dirt and sand and biological material from-- [13:59] the algae grows, it dies, it sinks to the bottom of the lake. [14:02] The weeds grow, they die. [14:04] They sink to the bottom of the lake. [14:05] So it's organic material that is just resting in the bottom [14:09] of the lake, trying to decay. [14:11] But when it does, it uses up all the oxygen. [14:15] And then the phosphorus that's in the soil [14:17] in the bottom of the lake starts getting released. [14:19] And the whole cycle starts all over again. [14:22] MALE SPEAKER: So this just dispenses throughout [14:24] the whole lake, then? [14:25] DEAN: Yes, sir. [14:26] MALE SPEAKER: Thank you. [14:28] MALE SPEAKER: Anybody else? [14:29] So, Dean, how are you powering these aerators? [14:34] DEAN: It's electric. [14:35] They're electric powered. [14:36] MALE SPEAKER: Electric? [14:36] So is that coming off somebody's power in someone's home? [14:39] DEAN: In the particular site we have right now, [14:44] there's actually a power pole down there that is-- [14:48] I believe it was installed quite a number of years [14:50] ago when the Tri-Lakes Sportsman's [14:52] Club was aerating that part of the lake in the winter time. [14:56] So there's a transformer and a power pole [14:58] down there on one of our member's properties. [15:01] We have a lease agreement with him to access that site, [15:04] and we're powering this particular unit [15:07] off of that power pole. [15:08] So we have our own meter and that's how that's going to go. [15:12] On the other two sites, that will [15:13] be power that will be provided by the resident, [15:16] and we'll figure out a way to compensate them. [15:19] I don't know how that's going to go. [15:21] And you reminded me, as just a side note, [15:25] is that Benjamin Berry area where we have the aerator right [15:28] now will be an area that we will aerate throughout the winter [15:32] to support the fish and also continue trying to get oxygen [15:35] into the lake water as well. [15:38] That will look like that surface aerator [15:41] that I showed you plus two more. [15:43] There'll be three of them. [15:44] We won't use the bottom diffusers, [15:46] but we'll put three of the surface aerators [15:48] out there to keep an open section of water [15:51] throughout the winter. [15:53] MALE SPEAKER: Well, good. [15:54] Well, I appreciate what you're doing. [15:56] It's incremental. [15:57] It's an uphill battle. [15:59] But I'm glad that you're addressing [16:02] it the best way you can. [16:03] DEAN: And the thing we're really excited about, like I [16:05] said, is we're seeing results and we've [16:07] got something that's modular. [16:09] It's transferable. [16:10] If we can really get it dialed in, we can use it. [16:14] You can use it on other lakes, and it's affordable. [16:16] It's not like these multi-million dollar projects [16:19] that I've been talking to you about in previous years. [16:21] This is something that we can afford, [16:24] that we can pay for ourselves-- not that we're not looking [16:26] for grants and the like to expand these things, [16:30] but this is something that's wet. [16:32] It's in the water, it's being tested. [16:33] And we're real excited. [16:34] MALE SPEAKER: You're doing what you can. [16:36] DEAN: We're doing what we can. [16:36] Exactly, sir. [16:37] Thank you. [16:39] So we'll go over our financials real quick. [16:43] Year to date income, we've brought in about $58,000. [16:48] The two points I want to make on this slide, [16:50] I mentioned the $12,000 from the Circle [16:52] Lake Association for weeds. [16:54] They also gave us a $15,000 to go towards the aeration project. [16:59] Next slide, please. [17:03] We've spent about $75,000. [17:08] The big number there is the projects [17:10] which will be broken out in the next slide, [17:14] if we can move to that. [17:15] So we've spent a little over $27,000 on the lake restoration [17:21] project or the aeration project, and a little [17:26] over $40,000 for weeds. [17:28] We'll go to the next slide. [17:31] This is the estimated income and expenses [17:34] for the rest of the year. [17:36] The top number is the second half of the assessment [17:39] that will come in. [17:41] This is really great, guys. [17:44] The second number is $22,000. [17:46] We had a member get up at our annual meeting in August that [17:49] challenged the group, challenged the membership [17:51] to match a $1,000 donation that he was [17:55] going to make to the district. [18:00] That challenge generated $22,000 in donations from the district. [18:08] So we're really excited about that [18:09] and we certainly appreciate that kind of support. [18:13] It shows you the involvement and the dedication [18:16] that our members have towards getting this lake cleaned up. [18:21] [18:24] So you see the number for the estimated expenses [18:27] for the remainder of the year. [18:29] We might be a little bit low on that number [18:30] because we didn't know we were going to have [18:32] that windfall of $22,000. [18:35] We may find that we spend a little bit more [18:37] on the aeration project, just because if we buy something now, [18:43] it might be cheaper than waiting for it next year. [18:46] I don't think we'll spend the $4,800 for weeds. [18:49] There's just no weeds in the lake right now, [18:50] but there was about $5,000 left over in the budget [18:53] for weeds if we had a milfoil problem, [18:55] and we don't at this point. [18:58] We're looking at somewhere just north [19:01] of $98,000 in the bank at the end of the year, [19:05] if this kind of pans out. [19:07] So we'll go to the next slide. [19:10] And this is the vote. [19:13] You can go to the next slide. [19:14] We had 42 parcels vote at our annual meeting, [19:18] and there are the results of that. [19:21] They approved, and then we can go on to the next slide. [19:27] This is the budget that was sent out to our membership. [19:30] This is the budget that they approved. [19:32] I've broken it down into the income and expense [19:35] side for the next slides. [19:36] So if we can go up one more, on the income side [19:40] of the approved budget for 2026, for this budget, [19:46] we carried over $70,000. [19:49] The membership approved a $400 per parcel assessment. [19:54] That's going to generate us around $66,800. [19:57] The grants, I put this grant DNR weed in here [20:03] just because we just don't think we're [20:05] going to get any money from the state. [20:06] We've always had budgeted $10,000 from the DNR, [20:11] but I don't think that's going to happen this year. [20:13] I'm not sure that they're going to have any money for weeds [20:15] at all. [20:16] But certainly, if they do, we'll apply for it, [20:19] but we're not counting on it. [20:21] As far as we know, the $5,000 that comes through the County [20:24] for weeds will be there. [20:25] And then hopefully, we've got $12,500 budgeted from [20:32] other grant sources, the Circle Lake [20:34] Association being one of them. [20:36] Up to the next slide, estimated expenses. [20:39] That top group of numbers just kind of keeps the lights on. [20:42] This is the budget for the lake restoration project [20:45] and weeds management project. [20:48] Both of those projects are over $5,000, so our membership [20:51] has to vote on those. [20:52] They've approved those as well. [20:54] So if we do, in fact, spend all this money, [20:58] that'll pretty much tap us out for 2026. [21:01] I think we'll carry in a little bit more than [21:03] the $70,000 but it gives you a rough [21:05] idea of what we're looking at. [21:07] And this is what the membership approved. [21:09] So we'll go to the next slide. [21:11] For questions on the budget? [21:13] [21:17] MALE SPEAKER: Go ahead. [21:18] DEAN: Well then, I thank you very much for your time. [21:20] I hope that when it comes time for you [21:21] to vote on our budget and our items, that you approve it. [21:27] And certainly, if you have any questions, [21:29] you know how to get a hold of me and I appreciate your support. [21:36] MALE SPEAKER: Go ahead. [21:37] MALE SPEAKER: Just a thank you to you and everybody [21:40] on the board and the residents for stepping [21:43] up and doing what you're doing to make [21:45] improvements to the lake. [21:46] DEAN: You're welcome. [21:47] I'll let them know. [21:49] MALE SPEAKER: I also have a comment. [21:50] MALE SPEAKER: Go ahead. [21:52] MALE SPEAKER: The Circle Lake island, [21:53] you're all aware of the land trust, [21:56] purchasing it and going to hopefully [21:58] switch it over to the DNR, so that's going to be a good thing. [22:02] And then, I have had several comments. [22:04] I live real close to the lake, of course, of how good [22:08] it was this year, the weeds and stuff. [22:10] So you must be doing something right, so thank you. [22:15] DEAN: You're welcome. [22:16] [22:19] MALE SPEAKER: Thank you, Dean. [22:20] Appreciate it. [22:20] DEAN: Thank you. [22:23] MALE SPEAKER: Next, we have our assessor's [22:24] office with Josh Schoen. [22:26] [22:30] JOSH SCHOEN: Good morning, commissioners. [22:31] MALE SPEAKER: Good morning. [22:32] MALE SPEAKER: Morning. [22:32] JOSH SCHOEN: Thanks for letting me do an update this morning. [22:35] I'm going to start just by showing [22:38] the organization of my office. [22:39] So I have 13 full staff in my office, including myself. [22:44] Our most recent hire was in the end of May, [22:47] so we've been fully staffed since the end [22:48] of May, which is the longest stretch [22:50] we've had since before COVID. [22:52] So I'm thankful for that. [22:54] Hopefully, that continues. [22:56] But we have six appraisers, three, I guess, office staff, [23:01] and then two GIS people besides myself [23:04] and the assistant county assessor, Carolyn. [23:08] Next slide. [23:10] I showed this slide when I gave the presentation [23:13] at the County Board of Appeal and Equalization. [23:15] So you can kind of see where the market value has gone [23:18] over the more recent years. [23:21] Our sales ratio study analyzes sales, [23:25] so for the '26 assessed values, we [23:28] started with sales starting October 1 of '24 [23:32] and will go through the end of September 30 of 2025. [23:36] So we're getting close to the end of that time study. [23:40] From what I'm seeing before the sales ratio season's over, [23:46] is that we'll see similar increases as a year ago, [23:50] that kind of all property types, our assessed value compared to [23:54] the sale prices have been low. [23:57] So I'm expecting to see increases [23:59] across all the property types. [24:01] MALE SPEAKER: I have a question about that. [24:03] JOSH SCHOEN: Go ahead. [24:05] MALE SPEAKER: At what point-- [24:06] and I know this is not you-- but at what point are [24:09] the Department of Revenue-- because that's who [24:11] you answer to, right-- [24:12] I mean, they make the rules. [24:14] At what point are they going to say, gosh, [24:19] we've made the assessors raise the value on everything [24:23] from commercial to residential, to apartments to farmland, [24:27] that it's not sustainable? [24:28] Because that's the point we're approaching. [24:31] You can deliver that message to whoever from the Department [24:34] of Revenue, but I will as well. [24:36] But it's becoming the point where people can't, because it's [24:39] part of the tax process of the value [24:42] and what they pay for taxes on their homes. [24:45] It's getting to the point where it's not sustainable for people [24:49] to be able to live in their homes anymore [24:51] because the values have been rising so dramatically [24:54] that we're going to have a mess on our hands [24:58] here coming up soon. [24:59] JOSH SCHOEN: Yeah, and one of the big things [25:02] to make sure understand too, is remember, [25:05] the values are just how the levies are distributed. [25:07] So I mean, if levies stayed the same and values doubled, [25:11] the taxes would stay the same in a more simple tax system. [25:15] So it is how it's distributed statutorily. [25:20] Assessors must value at market value. [25:24] I know other states have done a little bit different things. [25:28] In Minnesota, they use net tax capacity. [25:30] So not every classification pays the same amount of taxes [25:34] because there's a multiplier that changes, [25:37] that percentage that they pay. [25:39] That's how Minnesota's chosen to do that. [25:43] I know Iowa, like on their farmland, [25:45] they value it like a small percentage of the value. [25:48] So it's always just how do you shake that out, I guess. [25:54] But what we are seeing is, the good thing about when [25:58] we see all property types-- [26:00] so residential and commercial apartments-- when they all go up [26:04] rather opposed to one goes up, one goes [26:06] down, that creates a tax shift. [26:09] So that's a good thing about when all of them go up together, [26:12] at least there's not this big tax shift [26:15] that you could see because then, there's [26:16] kind of unexpected tax bills. [26:19] So that's the positive of that, I guess. [26:23] Also, just having a healthy market [26:26] is usually a better economical sign too. [26:30] So hopefully, that exists as well. [26:35] I guess we can move on to the next slide. [26:37] This just shows the residential and seasonal rec sales. [26:43] I always kind of show this from year to year, [26:45] what the average county-wide and average [26:47] and Faribault, Northfield. [26:49] Last year's study for the 2025 assessment, [26:53] the average county-wide sale price was $350,000. [26:57] And preliminary, through the first week in September, [27:00] it was $370,000. [27:03] And then you can see in Northfield, [27:06] I think it went from 365 to 378, and then in Faribault, from [27:11] 285 to just about $300,000. [27:14] So you can see those increases in the average sale price. [27:18] [27:22] Last year, when I gave an update, [27:23] I had several slides on legislative changes, [27:27] and a lot of them really created some tax shifts. [27:30] We saw a really active bill a year ago with the tax bill [27:34] this year. [27:35] There was a lot discussed in the tax bill, [27:37] but nothing really made it through. [27:40] Some of the big changes a year ago [27:42] was that they redid the formula for the Homestead [27:45] market value exclusion. [27:46] That probably had the biggest impact on tax shifts. [27:50] Also, you can see in this chart, from '23 to '24, [27:55] the Ag Homestead tier went from just over $2.1 million [27:59] to $3.5 million. [28:01] That created some shift. [28:02] There was a low income rental classification [28:05] that really had a reduced rate from essentially 0.75% to 0.25%. [28:12] The legislature doesn't always pass bills [28:15] on the Homestead tier limit. [28:16] Usually, the Department of Revenue [28:18] just determines that based on the value increases [28:21] that are on the state. [28:22] There was that big change a year ago [28:24] because legislators didn't think the Department [28:27] of Revenue kept up with the changes of ag value. [28:30] But this year, there was a $300,000 increase in that limit, [28:34] which is percentage-wise, pretty similar [28:37] to the tillable increase that we saw a year ago with our ag land. [28:42] So that's probably the one big change [28:46] for this coming assessment. [28:49] MALE SPEAKER: So, Josh, can I ask just a question here? [28:51] JOSH SCHOEN: Yeah. [28:52] MALE SPEAKER: How do you determine [28:54] agricultural homestead? [28:56] I mean, what's the criteria for that? [28:58] JOSH SCHOEN: Yeah, so the most basic way is [29:01] if you own and occupy the farm. [29:04] So you live on the farm. [29:06] Once you establish ag homestead-- so that usually [29:09] means at least 10 contiguous productive acres in production-- [29:13] then, once you establish that, you can link [29:15] farmland within four townships. [29:18] There's different ways. [29:20] That's one thing that's added to the complexity of ag homesteads [29:24] that we have-- [29:25] a lot of our administration in our offices [29:27] just follow this stuff, but there's relative ag homesteads. [29:33] There's the special ag homesteads [29:34] because the farming community has changed where there's [29:37] more entity-owned properties. [29:40] Maybe they're moving off the farm, [29:43] but they still continue to farm but live in town. [29:46] There's some ways that they can qualify if they're the farmer [29:49] or a relative is a farmer. [29:52] They've really kind of expanded the ways [29:54] that that's changed as farming operations [29:56] have changed over the years. [29:59] So it is something we have, in general, [30:03] our homestead applications, once people file, they continue [30:06] to get that homestead credit. [30:08] But like the special egg, we require applications every year. [30:11] Any kind of relative homestead, we've been on every other year [30:14] cycle just to make sure they continue to live [30:17] there and meet that criteria. [30:19] So it is a little more complex than a simple answer [30:24] on that, but that's changed over the years. [30:25] And every year-- well, not every year, but it [30:27] seems like there's a little different rules [30:31] periodically within. [30:33] MALE SPEAKER: And then the valuation [30:34] limit would be that's the maximum [30:36] that they can be valued at? [30:37] Is that what you're getting at? [30:38] JOSH SCHOEN: Yeah. [30:38] Once all the farmland and outbuildings reach that-- [30:44] let's say, it'll be 3.8 next year. [30:47] Once they hit that limit, then they're [30:49] taxed at the non-homestead rate, which is twice as much [30:52] as the homestead rate. [30:53] So your taxes double on that part. [30:55] So we've had over the years, like a truth and taxation time. [30:58] We'll have some farmers come in and say my taxes [31:03] doubled on this parcel. [31:04] This can't be right. [31:05] And what happens a lot of times is [31:06] that parcel was getting homestead [31:08] and then it doesn't get homestead. [31:09] Maybe it's at the end of that tier. [31:11] It is one thing, legislation addressed that homestead tier [31:14] a year ago because there wasn't a lot of change in there [31:18] and we were having some pretty big [31:19] value increases in especially the southern part of the state. [31:23] So we saw a lot of that. [31:25] And then it's such a big difference between homestead [31:28] and non-homestead with ag land and outbuildings, [31:31] that you notice that. [31:32] Because really, the biggest difference is the rate doubles. [31:35] And there's also an ag homestead credit [31:37] that farmers get that's up to $490 [31:41] based on the value of the property. [31:45] MALE SPEAKER: Well, thank you for that clarification. [31:48] You guys deal with that more than I do. [31:51] But you understand that completely? [31:53] MALE SPEAKER: Yeah. [31:54] I've been to his office several times. [31:57] JOSH SCHOEN: Yeah, no, Minnesota has the most complex [32:01] property tax laws in the entire country, [32:04] and it's not even close. [32:06] I know the last time I heard, it was like Minnesota had something [32:08] like 67 property tax classifications, [32:11] and the next highest state was Iowa with 11. [32:14] It was that big a disparity. [32:16] And there are credits for different things. [32:21] One thing that's changed over the more recent years [32:23] is there's a school building bond credit that became [32:28] established as a lot of old state schools [32:30] failed to pass referendums because it [32:34] would impact the farmers so much and they'd vote against it. [32:37] Now when there's a school building bond, 70% of that [32:42] comes back as a credit to farmland. [32:45] So they're only paying on 30% of it, where historically, [32:49] they've paid 100%. [32:50] [32:53] Next slide? [32:54] MALE SPEAKER: Thank you for that clarification. [32:55] I think it's important and you helped me [32:57] understand it a little better. [32:58] JOSH SCHOEN: Yeah. [32:59] [33:01] Every year, the Department of Revenue [33:03] does a State Board of Equalization. [33:05] So whenever there's six or more sales within a property type [33:09] in a jurisdiction, our median value or median sale, [33:15] we have to be within 90% to 105%. [33:18] So if I don't get that value there, [33:22] the state steps in and issues state orders [33:25] that brings the whole jurisdiction kind [33:27] of up to that close to 100%. [33:31] And then anyone that appeals in that jurisdiction [33:34] would lose their appeal. [33:36] So it's something that we want to avoid. [33:39] And then also, they look at different measures too. [33:42] Like, there's certain jurisdictions, [33:43] like especially some of our smaller townships [33:45] that don't get six sales. [33:47] So they look at how those sales have occurred [33:51] over the five year period to see if we're [33:53] making the changes necessary. [33:55] So just because there's not sales [33:57] there doesn't mean we can't just let the values be flat, [34:02] and that's something we've been keeping up with the market. [34:04] We haven't had any issues with that. [34:07] And it's good too, just from a fairness, equity [34:10] with other taxpayers and to make sure we're addressing [34:13] those areas where we don't have sales as we can see what [34:17] the market indicates in other areas of the County [34:19] and other areas of the state. [34:23] And then, one of the big things we're working on right now-- [34:27] we're kind of wrapping it up-- is our appraisers [34:29] do quintile inspections. [34:31] So we're required statutorily to visit each property at least [34:35] once every five year period. [34:37] So every year, I guess since last four or five years, [34:42] we send out postcards of the properties [34:44] that we're going to visit. [34:45] People have the opportunity to line up appointments [34:48] and we start going out and visiting properties. [34:52] And it's really, a lot of times, I [34:53] think people are a little worried that we're going out [34:55] there or we're going to value the property [34:57] and we're seeing this-- we value properties every year. [34:59] We're keeping up with the market. [35:01] It's really just to verify whether the information we have [35:04] is correct. [35:05] Sometimes, we'll be at properties [35:07] and maybe the conditions improved or there's something [35:09] there that we didn't realize. [35:10] But also, there's times that they're having issues that might [35:14] bring the value down or buildings that have been [35:16] raised that we didn't realize. [35:18] So there's both ways on that. [35:22] And we're really trying to be as efficient as we can. [35:27] We really utilize the air photos that we've been getting a lot [35:32] to make it more efficient, that historically, like the director [35:36] of the Department of Revenue, was to go out [35:38] and measure every single building at every property [35:41] that we're at. [35:43] And that's just not realistic with all the farms that we have. [35:45] And we do all that on air photos. [35:48] We usually only measure if we have some discrepancy [35:51] that we see on the air photos. [35:55] And then, you can see, through the end of August, we've visited [36:00] almost 5,800 properties. [36:03] About 6,000 would be 1/5 of our parcels, [36:06] so we're getting close to wrapping up our quintile [36:09] inspections, and then our appraisers [36:10] move to checking permits for new construction for the year. [36:16] On the next slide, we currently have 13 active tax [36:22] petitions in the County. [36:24] One in payable '24, which we have a motion hearing next week [36:29] to try to get dismissed, and then [36:31] 12 for the payable '25 year. [36:33] I think we started with 17 and payable '25, [36:37] and we've either had five of them dismissed or settled. [36:40] [36:44] Next slide. [36:45] So the Beacon website, so this is kind of a website that really [36:51] shows taxpayers a lot of the information [36:53] that we have on their properties, [36:54] shows property lines, maps. [36:57] Last year, we had over 390,000 visitors, over 1,000 a day. [37:03] With that, I think there was over 5 million views [37:06] of different sites on there. [37:10] This year, we're quite a bit ahead of that pace. [37:12] We're on pace for over 500,000 visits. [37:17] And it's been a really good tool as an assessor [37:22] that we have transparency with the taxpayers, [37:24] that we can talk with taxpayers. [37:26] And we hear when stuff's wrong, whether it's [37:29] their property lines or information [37:30] that we have on their property. [37:33] I think it's been a good tool. [37:34] We have tax statements out there. [37:36] People can see a copy of their subdivision or plat. [37:41] We have corner certificates out there. [37:44] Mike is working on linking our sales [37:47] to their LandShark TriMin sites so that they [37:51] can link to those documents. [37:54] So it's been a really good tool for us. [37:57] We get a lot of compliments from people [37:58] on how usable our website is. [38:02] MALE SPEAKER: So I have one question on that. [38:04] JOSH SCHOEN: Sure. [38:05] MALE SPEAKER: The accuracy of the Beacon sites, I mean, [38:09] how much or how accurate is it compared [38:12] to actual surveyed stakes? [38:15] And can people look at that with a confidence of this [38:19] is what it is? [38:20] JOSH SCHOEN: No. [38:21] I would say it's definitely not survey grade. [38:23] I think it'll be very difficult to get it there, [38:27] but it's the best information that we have. [38:29] We've gotten a lot better over the years [38:32] through efforts of our GIS, and of course, [38:35] Mike, the county surveyor. [38:36] We've really cleaned up a lot of information. [38:41] It's tough. [38:42] And even with the air photos, the way they line up [38:44] isn't always exactly perfect. [38:47] So there's always some error built in there. [38:50] But you'll see they're pretty good, [38:52] and I like that we have it out there. [38:54] We hear from taxpayers that we really [38:56] research some legal descriptions and we [38:59] make some improvements on those parcel lines based on that too. [39:03] But I would say it's gotten drastically [39:06] better the last 10 years. [39:09] And it continues to be a work in progress. [39:11] I don't think it'll ever be survey grade, [39:14] but it continues to get better. [39:17] And we hope to hear from people when there is something-- [39:22] MALE SPEAKER: Discrepancy? [39:22] JOSH SCHOEN: --yeah, some discrepancy because that's [39:24] when we look into it. [39:27] It gives us an opportunity to relook at things. [39:30] MALE SPEAKER: Well, good. [39:30] I think it's good for everybody to know that because some people [39:34] make the presumption that what's shown on Beacons, [39:38] your fence is on my property or whatever. [39:40] JOSH SCHOEN: Yeah, I know we do get a lot of questions, [39:42] we're thinking about putting a fence up. [39:43] Get a survey or here's-- the nice thing is we can pull [39:47] the plat right up and say, these corners are located right here. [39:50] You need to find those to put up a fence, but it's not perfect, [39:56] but it's a good representation, I guess. [39:59] MALE SPEAKER: Thank you. [40:02] JOSH SCHOEN: The final slide that I [40:03] have is the air photo flight. [40:06] We were on the first of a three year contract over six years. [40:11] So this spring, we flew air photo flight by eagle view. [40:17] It was purchased with the compliance fund, [40:18] and it's been a really good tool. [40:20] We put the ortho image out on our Beacon website. [40:23] And there's actually a tool that you [40:26] can look at some oblique imagery, [40:28] but it's really a tool that we use internally a lot. [40:31] Our office, the assessor's office, dominates the use of it [40:34] but other departments around the County have it [40:36] and we provide it to the cities as well. [40:40] In 2024, we had over 55,000 image views. [40:44] And this year, we're on pace for more than that. [40:47] So we have over 43,000 image views. [40:50] It's really, really allowed us to do our job differently, [40:55] to be more efficient in the field. [40:56] It's really amazing how far this technology has come. [40:59] And we're not purchasing the best product that they have. [41:05] This year, we by default, got a better product. [41:09] We got three inch resolution, which [41:11] means each pixel in the photo is 3 inches by 3 inches, which I [41:15] say without human error, you can measure within three [41:19] inches on each side, so you can measure within 6 inches [41:22] before kind of human error, I guess. [41:25] They have a 1 inch product. [41:27] Traditionally, we've gotten some three and some six, [41:30] or it used to be a 12 inch product [41:33] that we got when they first kind of came out, [41:35] so it's gotten better. [41:37] And just having different angles of things has really helped [41:41] us do our job efficiently. [41:44] [41:47] And I guess, with that, are there any other questions [41:50] that you have for me today? [41:51] [41:55] MALE SPEAKER: I don't believe so. [41:56] [41:59] JOSH SCHOEN: Well, thank you. [42:00] MALE SPEAKER: Thank you Josh, appreciate it. [42:01] [42:04] Next, we have Adult Services with Megan Thomas. [42:06] [42:16] MEGAN THOMAS: Good morning, commissioners. [42:17] MALE SPEAKER: Good morning. [42:18] MALE SPEAKER: Morning. [42:19] MEGAN THOMAS: I have quite a packed agenda here, [42:22] so I'm going to try to really just hit some highlights [42:25] and take any questions that you might have, [42:28] given today's agenda in general. [42:30] So I just started off with some acronyms. [42:33] We use them quite frequently downstairs. [42:35] So when I say some of these things, you might be like, well, [42:39] what does that mean? [42:39] I kind of just laid it out for you in the beginning. [42:43] So next slide, please. [42:46] Continued, you can go to the next one as well, Sarah. [42:49] Thank you. [42:49] So we're just going to start off with CADI, Community Alternative [42:52] for Disability Inclusion. [42:54] So right now in 2025, we currently have 8 case managers [42:59] and we're serving 423 cases with 25 in the hopper. [43:04] And what that just means is that we're [43:05] waiting for people's medical assistance to be approved [43:09] or their certification of disability, which [43:12] is one of the two eligibility requirements [43:15] to open to a CADI waiver. [43:17] So in combination of one or two, or both, [43:21] that's where the number 25 comes in. [43:24] Next slide. [43:26] In MnCHOICES, we added a new lead position in 2025. [43:31] The MnCHOICES team consists of four assessors at this time, [43:35] including a lead who also does assessments. [43:38] They complete all waiver PCA initials, annual MnCHOICES [43:43] for PCA, or what is now rolling out to be CFSS, So Community [43:49] First Services and Supports. [43:51] The second version, or MnCHOICES 2.0, launched in October 2024. [43:56] And I know that I've previously shared with you there [43:58] were a lot of reservations. [44:00] There's been a lot of bumps along the way. [44:02] There continues to be a lot of concerns and bumps [44:06] along the way using this new platform for us. [44:09] And with that, CFSS rolled out at the same time, which has [44:13] also been quite problematic. [44:16] There hasn't been enough providers in the state on board [44:19] to provide the CFSS portion. [44:23] And so how that differs from straight PCA [44:25] is the CFSS model allows a person [44:29] to have a monetary budget, and so it [44:32] allows a person and their family or caregivers [44:35] to determine how those needs are going [44:37] to be met with a budget model. [44:39] And providers haven't really gotten on board [44:44] with being able to be the fiscal supervisor of those things [44:48] as well as providing the service. [44:49] So we've had a long wait for families to open to CFSS. [44:54] However, their PCA does stay in place, [44:57] so they're not losing services. [44:59] There's no gap in services. [45:01] The state is just struggling with trying [45:04] to lift that and bring it to what I think [45:06] their fruition was meant to be. [45:10] MnCHOICE assessors are case managing all of their own CFSS [45:14] PCA individuals, which is nothing new, [45:17] but an average caseload for an assessor is 77 to 120. [45:21] And with the new MnCHOICES 2.0, it certainly [45:27] has increased our number of appeals [45:29] that we're facing downstairs. [45:31] So we've had 15 appeals so far, which [45:33] is actually quite high for us. [45:36] And what that means, or where that comes from, [45:38] really, is that the new platform is determining people's number [45:43] of hours of care per day to either be lower, [45:47] or the new budget model is less than what it used to be. [45:53] And so people are appealing that, which they certainly [45:55] have the right to do that. [45:57] So we've spent a lot of time in 15 cases determining appeals. [46:02] We have won a majority of those. [46:05] And when I say majority, some recommendations [46:08] from the appellate court or the DHS Human Services judge [46:11] will make recommendations for us to reconsider something. [46:15] So they haven't reversed our decisions or determinations, [46:19] they've upheld most of ours. [46:22] And then we have just a number-- [46:23] I think we have one that's still floating [46:25] out there since February that we're [46:26] still waiting to hear back on. [46:28] So it's taking quite a lot longer [46:31] to get those determinations back as well. [46:35] Next slide. [46:37] Developmental disabilities. [46:39] We have seven case managers. [46:40] We're currently serving 400 individuals. [46:43] The average caseload size is 57, which is quite high for DD, [46:49] so it's definitely creeping up there. [46:51] We have two that are designated to children and families, [46:55] so that's that CDCS consumer directed support model. [47:00] And so it's mostly kids living with parents, guardians, [47:03] that sort of caseload. [47:05] So we have two case managers that are delegated to that. [47:08] And so their caseloads are actually a little bit higher. [47:11] But when you average the team out, [47:13] it looks to be that they're all sitting on an average of 57. [47:18] Next slide. [47:19] [47:22] Adult protection mental health intake and nursing. [47:24] So in 2024, one of our nurses retired, Lisa Benson. [47:29] These positions are mostly grant funded, [47:33] so we made a choice looking at the caseload of two nurses. [47:37] We had two, one retired, and decided not to fill back [47:41] that position and use the grant dollars [47:43] to hire another adult mental health case manager. [47:46] And that's really where our need was. [47:49] So in a nursing perspective, our current nurse [47:51] is serving 17 individuals, which includes medication management, [47:56] monitoring of side effects, education, communicating [48:00] with doctors, psychiatrists, psychologists, [48:03] things of that nature. [48:04] And so far, it's been really good. [48:06] We feel that we really made the right decision [48:09] with that because our case management numbers were growing. [48:13] And we'll talk a little bit about the complexity of that. [48:16] Next slide, please. [48:17] MALE SPEAKER: Mr. Chair, if I could? [48:18] MEGAN THOMAS: Yes, [48:19] MALE SPEAKER: Yes. [48:19] Go ahead. [48:20] MALE SPEAKER: Why are we not using the Public [48:21] Health or the nursing department we [48:23] have without duplicating here? [48:26] MEGAN THOMAS: So it was determined a long time ago-- [48:29] and Deb and I have spent some time talking about this, [48:31] and we just recently talked about [48:33] it when Lisa retired as well-- [48:35] that before, long before my time, [48:39] it was determined through SCCBI and/or AMHI and CSP grant [48:43] dollars, that we could have specialized nursing funded [48:47] by those grant dollars embedded in our AMH AP units [48:53] that maybe would have more of, one could argue, [48:57] nursing expertise or mental health expertise, [49:00] meeting those people that were serving under AMH [49:04] or at Friendship House. [49:06] So that decision was made a long time ago. [49:08] I did reevaluate that. [49:11] And I think-- not I think. [49:13] I made the determination not to jump back to Public Health [49:17] just because we weren't going to fill back a second nurse. [49:21] So now we're down to one, and this nurse is working so closely [49:25] with AMH case managers, adult mental health case managers-- [49:29] because it's their clients that they're serving-- [49:31] that to be within the unit for those quick questions-- like, [49:35] hey, did we get a prescription for this? [49:38] Did their medication go up? [49:39] When's their next psych-- just that communication and being [49:42] embedded in the world that really that they're [49:45] living and serving. [49:46] So we do get support from Public Health with some [49:51] of our injectables when necessary, [49:53] and we're very thankful for that. [49:55] But really, from my understanding [49:58] of the whole picture, it just lies [50:00] back to this is how we could use those grant [50:02] dollars to fund this. [50:06] MALE SPEAKER: Thank you for the explanation. [50:08] MEGAN THOMAS: Might not be perfect, but it's working, [50:12] and I think someday, our current nurse isn't [50:15] going to be there forever. [50:17] And I presume if Deb is still here, [50:22] I would entertain more conversations [50:24] and continue to see how we can partner in that. [50:27] I don't know that we'll always stay funded. [50:29] We're the only county in the region that uses grant dollars [50:33] to fund nursing positions. [50:34] So we're the exception to the rule, [50:37] but right now it's working so don't rock the boat, [50:41] is kind of how I feel. [50:43] MALE SPEAKER: Thank you. [50:46] MEGAN THOMAS: Adult protection. [50:47] So in 2025, we added a new adult protection social worker. [50:52] So we went from 2 to 3 on a team. [50:55] We've opened 261 cases and we've received 371 adult protection [51:02] reports so far. [51:04] As far as civil commitments, we've [51:06] had 14 and 36 pre-petition screenings [51:10] that have been completed. [51:11] So really, what that just tells us is that the complexity [51:17] and acuity of people we're serving, which you all know [51:20] is a lot greater, we're serving more criminally [51:23] involved individuals as well. [51:25] So we anticipate to see those numbers [51:28] continue to increase over time. [51:32] Case management-wise, they're serving 150 people. [51:35] So we have six case managers. [51:37] So the average caseload size is sitting at about 25. [51:42] 30 is the average norm per case manager when talking about AMH. [51:47] It's targeted case management, so these [51:49] aren't meant to be long term case managing, like DD and CADI. [51:54] So we really do look at our caseloads [51:57] and we look at when it's appropriate to close [52:01] when successes happen. [52:02] What does success look like for people. [52:05] We know that that's different. [52:07] And then, as far as intakes go in 2025, [52:11] again, up until completing this packet a couple weeks ago, [52:15] we've completed 44. [52:17] So our intake position works with people [52:21] to open to adult mental health case management. [52:24] It works with children's mental health [52:27] to open to case management there, [52:29] as well as our therapy providers and working to get [52:33] people connected to therapy. [52:36] MALE SPEAKER: Mr. Chair, if I could? [52:38] MALE SPEAKER: Yes, please. [52:39] I'm sorry. [52:39] MEGAN THOMAS: No, it's OK. [52:40] MALE SPEAKER: My question is, do we have any responsibility, [52:44] are we working up at the state prison? [52:47] MEGAN THOMAS: No. [52:48] MALE SPEAKER: We've nothing to do with-- [52:50] MEGAN THOMAS: We do not have any input or anything in the state [52:54] prison system for that. [52:57] As far as MnCHOICES choices go, we MnCHOICE a lot [53:01] of people at the state prison. [53:02] We get a lot of referrals from there, [53:05] and so we'll go in and complete the assessment [53:08] before they're released. [53:10] And then our information then goes to the county in which [53:14] they're returning to after release so they [53:18] can connect them to services. [53:19] So it kind of starts there, but not from an intake [53:22] per se perspective. [53:25] Next slide. [53:26] Thank you, Rick. [53:28] Again, just a snippet of Friendship House. [53:30] We've had six new members join so far in 2025, [53:34] and then there's just a little picture [53:39] of how many participants-- [53:42] I tried to blow this up, you guys. [53:44] I couldn't get it any bigger on the slide-- [53:48] who participated in what. [53:49] And so what we've seen, not only with new members, [53:52] is majority of our members are actually [53:55] participating in most things. [53:57] And so our participation numbers have certainly increased. [54:01] And as you all know, Linda and Dana [54:03] do such an amazing job there, so we're really happy [54:08] and our members are happy. [54:10] So next slide is just a little picture [54:14] of our most recent additions. [54:15] So our lovely new garbage can that fits in there. [54:18] And in the back, I didn't have along pictures, [54:22] but in the background, you see two hydrangea [54:24] bushes and one in the middle. [54:26] Those are our most recent grant-funded additions [54:29] to our landscaping, so continues to grow. [54:34] Guardianship. [54:36] Key pieces here. [54:37] So we're currently serving 109 individuals. [54:40] Five of those are contracted with Scott County. [54:43] We have worked to assist six individuals successfully [54:47] restoring their rights or moving to a lesser [54:49] restrictive alternative, which is supported decision making. [54:53] If you remember from previous board discussions, [54:57] we launched supported decision making under a grant in 2024. [55:03] We've had some staff fluctuation with that, [55:06] but one staff has stayed consistent, [55:09] so we're currently serving 26 individuals. [55:12] We have four in a waiting list. [55:15] We've closed 31 cases so far, and we've [55:19] provided 30 trainings in our community of supported decision [55:23] making and how that is really a benefit to individuals, [55:27] and could be a lesser restrictive alternative as well. [55:32] What we've learned along the way is that it really [55:34] keeps the ability of people to experience autonomy [55:38] and independence, and it really has proven [55:41] to be cost effective for us in counties if they [55:44] were to decide to do this. [55:46] So of all the individuals referred to us, [55:49] we've either screened them for guardianship [55:51] and referred them to SDM because they [55:53] didn't meet that quite level of vulnerable adult [55:56] or incapacitated. [55:58] We also have a screening team with our courts [56:01] and our judicial system, which we review all cases filed [56:05] under in forma pauperis, which then, we bear [56:08] the financial burdens of that. [56:10] So we screen those cases that are filed with the courts, [56:13] and we've been able to recommend supported [56:15] decision making to the judges for those cases as well. [56:20] So next slide, Rick. [56:24] Oh, sorry, go back. [56:26] I thought there was another one. [56:28] So as far as that goes, we continue [56:30] to evaluate our current guardianship caseload [56:34] for restoring rights, supported decision making, [56:38] those step down processes as well. [56:41] And right now, our grant is still funded and in place [56:44] until June 30 of 2026. [56:47] And I know this legislative session, we're going to go back [56:51] and we're just going to keep lobbying for this. [56:55] We have a lot of support at the legislative platform [57:01] for this type of service, really looking at guardianship [57:04] and trying to keep it on civil commitment, like as needed. [57:11] I mean, you're really, truly are taking a person's rights away. [57:14] And we know that there's a place for it, [57:17] but we've seen a lot of petitions [57:19] where guardianship is just simply not necessary, [57:23] and so part of it's education as well. [57:26] So we meet with a lot of families [57:27] talking about that stuff too. [57:29] Now next slide. [57:32] Housing support. [57:33] So again, I think an email was shared with you. [57:36] And if it wasn't, I mean, we can. [57:39] But again, just reminding that housing support [57:41] is not the same as housing stabilization. [57:44] What we've seen all over the news with fraud, [57:46] that is not what we administer to downstairs. [57:49] We have 106 housing support providers [57:53] with five new providers that we've worked with [57:55] and approved in the last year. [57:57] Housing support does require a lot of time and dedication. [58:01] It's operated by a financial supervisor as well as our CADI [58:06] supervisor manages this role. [58:09] It really could be its own FTE. [58:12] We did apply for a grant this year to fund a position for this [58:16] because of the amount of work that it entails, [58:19] and unfortunately, we weren't picked. [58:22] In fact, DHS shared with us that there was $9 million [58:27] in requests above and beyond what the legislative [58:30] had approved for this. [58:31] So they obviously see that the need is out there as well. [58:36] Next slide. [58:39] Legislative updates. [58:40] So I'm just going to get into some legislative stuff that [58:43] really impacts my division, and this is where you may [58:46] or may not have more questions. [58:48] So from a MnCHOICES perspective, our timelines change. [58:52] So we went from 20 calendar days to 20 business days [58:56] from the time of a request. [58:58] So when somebody requests a MnCHOICES [59:00] and we complete an intake with them, [59:02] we have 20 business days to complete that MnCHOICES [59:05] assessment with them now. [59:06] Sometimes, it's phone tag and scheduling conflicts, [59:11] and you might get outside those 20 business days. [59:14] But I mean, that's kind of natural [59:16] when you're dealing with people and trying [59:18] to get things scheduled. [59:20] Assessors may provide up to four remote reassessments [59:24] consecutively, but the fifth one must be in person, [59:27] so that's something new. [59:29] We can now receive a verbal attestation [59:32] to replace assessment signatures, [59:34] but we make it our practice downstairs to always try and get [59:38] a physical signature for whether it's consent for services [59:42] or the consent for MnCHOICES release [59:44] of information, things like that. [59:47] But we now know that if we have it in email [59:50] or if we have a verbal attestation, we document that [59:53] and that can replace the physical signatures. [59:56] And then now, individuals can attest [59:59] to unchanged needs for two consecutive reassessments. [1:00:02] So what that just means is that if I have an assessment [1:00:04] this month and next year comes around, [1:00:07] and I say absolutely nothing's changed, [1:00:09] all the things are same, the assessor [1:00:11] can continue with the previous year's assessment [1:00:14] results and information. [1:00:15] You can do that twice until someone [1:00:18] technically has to really sit down and complete [1:00:21] an assessment with you. [1:00:23] So I would love to say that lightens the MnCHOICE assessor's [1:00:28] caseload and responsibilities, but it doesn't because CFSS [1:00:32] has actually quadrupled the work for them in that regard. [1:00:36] So, next slide. [1:00:38] [1:00:41] DHS is working on a dashboard of agencies assessment data. [1:00:46] We're really looking forward to that. [1:00:48] MnCHOICES is never really, by platform, [1:00:51] been able to provide us concrete data or numbers. [1:00:54] We've had to collect that on our own. [1:00:56] They're now valid for 365 days, which is huge, [1:01:00] so we're not going out and having to redo assessments [1:01:03] while we're waiting. [1:01:04] If someone's MA took so long to approve, [1:01:07] or if their determination of certification of disability [1:01:13] has taken longer, we would have to go out and redo assessments [1:01:16] for those timelines. [1:01:17] Now they're good for 365. [1:01:20] This is probably the biggest impact. [1:01:23] So starting in January of 2027, MnCHOICES will no longer [1:01:27] be reimbursed by a time study. [1:01:29] It's going to have a flat rate reimbursement [1:01:32] for assessments completed. [1:01:34] And so they're going to be utilizing the later portion [1:01:39] of '25 here this fall and all of '26 to, I guess, [1:01:43] determine what that flat rate is going to look like for counties [1:01:47] for the reimbursement phase. [1:01:48] So it will be a lot less than what [1:01:52] we're getting through the time study, so stay tuned. [1:01:57] Next slide. [1:01:59] [1:02:01] As most of you know-- and thank you so much for your advocation [1:02:05] and your platforms-- but the replacement [1:02:07] and modernization of SSIS was huge, [1:02:11] in the amount of $35 million. [1:02:13] Priority admissions, again, I'm sure you heard [1:02:16] many, many conversations-- not just for me, but from others-- [1:02:20] about the 48 hour rule, the bed capacity shortage, [1:02:25] things of that nature. [1:02:26] So $34 million was directed to the Miller building [1:02:30] for bed expansion, with an additional $20 million [1:02:33] for future administrative work. [1:02:36] And then, last legislative session, [1:02:39] there was a reprieve to counties for mentally ill and dangerous [1:02:43] that were awaiting placement from one [1:02:45] state facility to another. [1:02:46] That has now sunsetted and counties don't get that. [1:02:50] We never had a scenario where we were able to reap [1:02:55] the benefits of that reprieve. [1:02:56] We didn't have anybody in that situation. [1:02:59] MALE SPEAKER: So, excuse me, Megan? [1:03:00] Could you just explain for all of us [1:03:03] the 48 hour rule, what exactly that is, so people understand [1:03:08] that a little better? [1:03:08] MEGAN THOMAS: Well, I encourage Brian to chime in. [1:03:10] But basically, in a nutshell, the 48 hour rule [1:03:13] was that if we had somebody that was brought into jail [1:03:16] who was mentally ill-- [1:03:18] because that's not the place for them, [1:03:20] it's not appropriate that they should a new placement, [1:03:24] and they should be released to a more [1:03:26] appropriate placement treatment facility, whatever, [1:03:29] within 48 hours. [1:03:31] That's pretty much it in a nutshell. [1:03:33] Would you add anything? [1:03:36] MALE SPEAKER: No, that's what it is at its basic level. [1:03:38] MEGAN THOMAS: Yeah. [1:03:39] MALE SPEAKER: So you have 48 hours [1:03:41] to deal with this individual? [1:03:42] MEGAN THOMAS: That was the intent of the statute. [1:03:45] It has since then been paused and relooked at because there's [1:03:50] nowhere to put them. [1:03:51] I mean, bed capacity was, like, next to none. [1:03:54] So they languished in jails. [1:03:57] We did have an individual that unfortunately spent 92 days [1:04:01] in our jail before he was able to get into St. Peter [1:04:05] and be appropriately treated. [1:04:07] So we were all fighting the same fight. [1:04:10] We know that jail is not where people with mental health [1:04:14] needs and symptoms should be. [1:04:16] They should be treated as humans and seek the treatment [1:04:19] that they deserve. [1:04:21] MALE SPEAKER: So right now, in your opinion, is this working? [1:04:24] I mean, are we able to accomplish that in 48 hours? [1:04:26] MEGAN THOMAS: Oh, no. [1:04:27] No, we're far from it. [1:04:28] And I think until, like, this Miller building expansion [1:04:33] and until we start lifting places [1:04:36] in more capacity for people to go [1:04:39] to have the treatment that they need, [1:04:42] we'll never meet the 48 hour rule, no. [1:04:46] MALE SPEAKER: So we have a rule that we can't achieve, [1:04:48] basically? [1:04:48] MEGAN THOMAS: Yep, pretty much. [1:04:50] MALE SPEAKER: OK, thank you. [1:04:52] MEGAN THOMAS: Next slide. [1:04:53] [1:04:55] Competency attainment. [1:04:57] So that was something that was lifted where counties are going [1:05:00] to have to contribute to the cost of examination or [1:05:03] competency attainment programs. [1:05:05] This really hasn't lifted-lifted per se, [1:05:09] so we don't know what this is going to look like. [1:05:13] As we get further into budget discussions and our 2026 budget, [1:05:18] we did put a line item in our budget for this [1:05:21] because we have to, and we're going to bear responsibility [1:05:24] for this at some point. [1:05:26] The state is just still working on getting this out there, [1:05:31] as a better word, maybe, to say. [1:05:35] Other legislative things, so there's [1:05:38] a task force that's been lifted in waiver, reimagine, [1:05:41] and long term services and supports, [1:05:43] just looking at how to reduce cost in long term services [1:05:47] and supports building greater efficiencies. [1:05:49] They limited rate exceptions. [1:05:51] So really, what this means is that providers could request [1:05:55] a rate exception for people that had needs above and beyond maybe [1:06:05] the norm, might be the best word to use, [1:06:08] and so they would make that request to the counties. [1:06:11] We would look at the assessment and all of the needs [1:06:15] that the person reflects that they have, [1:06:17] and then really pass it on to DHS. [1:06:20] So we're not approving or denying the rate exceptions [1:06:23] for these providers, DHS is. [1:06:26] So they really have reined that back in. [1:06:29] I don't think they knew when they lifted this what [1:06:32] a pandemonium it was going to be because really, [1:06:37] right now, as it stands, they very rarely get denied. [1:06:41] So we just have to make sure the request from the provider [1:06:44] is valid. [1:06:46] If it's not, we work with the provider [1:06:49] to revise the request so it's actually [1:06:55] accurate and appropriate. [1:06:56] We won't send it to DHS if it's not accurate. [1:07:00] So that's basically our role in it from a county standpoint. [1:07:05] Next slide. [1:07:06] [1:07:09] This is huge. [1:07:10] There's been significant provider fees and licensing [1:07:14] requirements changes that are going [1:07:16] to come January 1 here in 2026. [1:07:18] So anyone who is adult foster care, [1:07:21] child foster care, a community residential setting-- [1:07:25] so a group home-- [1:07:26] or family adult day services, will [1:07:29] now be expected to pay an annual licensing fee of $2,100. [1:07:35] Previously, it was $500 upon licensing [1:07:39] and then every two years after that. [1:07:43] So it's not just the AFC annual licensing fee, [1:07:46] so a provider could have that. [1:07:48] And they could have a 245d license with Department of Human [1:07:52] Services, and they will also have [1:07:54] to pay $2,100 a year for that. [1:07:57] So they could take a $4,200 hit to maintain [1:08:02] both their licenses on an annual basis, and that's per site. [1:08:06] So when you have providers like LSS [1:08:11] Kennedy, which is now Harry Meyering Center, [1:08:14] that have multiple sites-- [1:08:16] 13, 14 group homes, nine-- [1:08:19] that's per site, that's a huge hit [1:08:21] to our foster care providers. [1:08:23] That is going to be devastating. [1:08:26] We have one provider-- so let me rephrase. [1:08:28] We have 76 providers in Rice County that are licensed [1:08:31] in one capacity or another. [1:08:33] We're still getting information from DHS [1:08:36] on this whole payment thing. [1:08:38] But we out of the 76 providers that are going to take a hit [1:08:42] of $2,100 a year or $4,200 annually per site that they [1:08:47] have, we have one family adult foster care provider that [1:08:52] doesn't take any waiver funding for the two [1:08:55] individuals that she serves. [1:08:57] So she's funded through housing supports and some other means. [1:09:01] So for a provider like that, it's pretty gigantic. [1:09:06] I'm nervous. [1:09:08] I'm worried about-- we've lost providers and bed capacity [1:09:12] within our residential settings already [1:09:14] the last few years just due to staffing complications. [1:09:19] I'm afraid to see what these fees happen. [1:09:23] So as far as the fees go, DHS will be collecting all the fees [1:09:27] from the providers on an annual basis, [1:09:29] and then 50% of those fees are going to be [1:09:32] kicked back to the county. [1:09:34] So we could, in more detail, really look at our provider [1:09:39] lists and figure it out and really [1:09:41] grind the numbers out to see what that looks like for us. [1:09:44] But with so much information kind [1:09:47] of still coming out statutorily about these, [1:09:49] I haven't done that. [1:09:50] I haven't done that yet. [1:09:51] So I will soon when I feel comfortable that this [1:09:55] is set in stone. [1:09:57] Any questions on that? [1:10:00] MALE SPEAKER: So, Megan-- yeah, I do. [1:10:01] Megan, if you're going to hit these providers [1:10:04] with this big fee, this annual fee, [1:10:08] they're going to want to recap that money [1:10:10] somehow with their services that they're providing, right? [1:10:13] Or how is that-- [1:10:15] MEGAN THOMAS: There's no way that we can offset that. [1:10:18] We've already looked at it. [1:10:20] It's impossible, and we can't-- [1:10:23] there's some actually statutory language I just [1:10:26] looked at this morning that-- [1:10:28] because I thought, OK. [1:10:29] Well, if we get 50%, can a portion of that [1:10:33] be offset back to the provider? [1:10:35] We can't even do that. [1:10:36] I mean, there's language in there that suggests [1:10:38] that can't even happen. [1:10:39] MALE SPEAKER: Well, it seems to me [1:10:40] it's going to be obvious that we're [1:10:42] going to lose some providers. [1:10:43] MEGAN THOMAS: I think we will. [1:10:44] I think it's very possible. [1:10:45] We have some really dedicated people in our community-- [1:10:48] and I'm thankful for that-- that truly just [1:10:51] believe in caring for people. [1:10:54] But there are people that maybe just [1:10:56] can't financially sustain this and there's no way to fix it. [1:10:59] [1:11:03] MALE SPEAKER: So if you're a provider, if you have one [1:11:07] resident, or if you have 10, you're [1:11:09] still considered a provider? [1:11:11] Is that how it works? [1:11:12] MEGAN THOMAS: Yeah, it's how many they're licensed for. [1:11:16] So this particular provider that doesn't take waiver funding, [1:11:20] she has two people living in her home, so she's licensed for two, [1:11:24] where most of our corporate sites are licensed for four. [1:11:29] It's not based on the number of people, it's based on the site. [1:11:33] So if you're a single family foster care provider, [1:11:38] that's your site. [1:11:39] That's your home. [1:11:40] You have one. [1:11:42] Like I said, some of these bigger agencies [1:11:44] that have multiple corporate sites throughout our community, [1:11:48] it's per site. [1:11:49] [1:11:52] MALE SPEAKER: Well, it'd be interesting to see what happens. [1:11:55] MEGAN THOMAS: Yeah. [1:11:57] Anything else? [1:11:58] Nope? [1:12:01] So I've already shared that. [1:12:03] You can skip to the next slide. [1:12:07] It is? [1:12:07] Oh, see? [1:12:09] Great. [1:12:09] Perfect. [1:12:10] I tried really hard to just get through that. [1:12:13] I know it's a lot. [1:12:15] Any other questions, then? [1:12:19] No? [1:12:20] MALE SPEAKER: Well, Megan, thank you [1:12:21] for giving us a little insight into your world [1:12:24] and what you're doing, so appreciate your efforts. [1:12:27] MEGAN THOMAS: All right, thank you. [1:12:28] [1:12:31] MALE SPEAKER: Commissioners, you all doing good? [1:12:34] Very good. [1:12:35] We have Public Health and nursing with Deb Purfeerst. [1:12:39] I don't see-- oh, there's Deb. [1:12:40] [1:12:43] DEB PURFEERST: Good morning. [1:12:44] MALE SPEAKER: Good morning. [1:12:45] DEB PURFEERST: You guys need to stand up and stretch, [1:12:47] or you're all good? [1:12:49] MALE SPEAKER: I just asked these guys. [1:12:50] DEB PURFEERST: You're good. [1:12:52] There's going to be two updates today from Public Health. [1:12:56] The first is on our safe roads coalition and TCD work. [1:13:01] So the Minnesota Department of Public Safety [1:13:04] provides funding for traffic safety coalitions [1:13:07] to address and prevent traffic deaths and serious injuries. [1:13:11] Public Health serves as the fiscal host [1:13:14] and the grant manager for the Rice [1:13:16] County Safe Roads Coalition. [1:13:19] The coalition began in 2006 with Kathy Cooper [1:13:24] serving as the coordinator. [1:13:27] The mission of the coalition is to move Rice County towards zero [1:13:31] deaths and serious injury. [1:13:33] So with me today, I have Jessica Schleck. [1:13:37] Jessica is our regional safe roads coalition coordinator. [1:13:42] She'll start the presentation and talk about some [1:13:45] of the state and regional work being done. [1:13:48] And then we have Kathy Cooper here. [1:13:50] Kathy is our Rice County coordinator, [1:13:53] so she'll be sharing with you some of the data [1:13:56] and local work being done. [1:13:58] So I will turn it over to my partners. [1:14:01] JESSICA SCHLECK: Thank you. [1:14:03] I talk fast, so we should get you right back on track. [1:14:06] So as she said, my name is Jessica Schleck. [1:14:08] I am the Southeast TCD Regional Coordinator. [1:14:11] I have had the privilege of working with Kathy for 17 years, [1:14:14] I think, or something, so lucky. [1:14:16] But the statewide TCD program was launched in 2003 [1:14:19] when we were seeing a big uptick in traffic-related fatalities. [1:14:22] So 655 people died on our roads that year. [1:14:25] So it was a program that was created by the Minnesota [1:14:27] Department of Public Safety, Transportation and Health [1:14:30] as a deliberate, interdisciplinary [1:14:32] approach to traffic safety. [1:14:33] Basically, they just realized we needed to not only work [1:14:36] with the state stuff, we needed to pull in local organizations [1:14:39] to help. [1:14:39] So the magic of this program is we are 20 plus years in [1:14:42] and we have so many partners across the state. [1:14:46] So TCD's vision. [1:14:48] Hopefully, you've heard this before, [1:14:49] but to reduce fatalities and serious injuries [1:14:52] on Minnesota roads to get to zero. [1:14:55] You can go to the next. [1:14:56] And the mission explains just how we do that. [1:14:59] You can go to the next one. [1:15:01] It's by collaborating. [1:15:03] So the TCD program focuses on those four strategic areas [1:15:06] to reduce crashes, enforcement, education, engineering, EMS, [1:15:10] and of course that fifth E, which [1:15:11] is everyone, because everyone shares our roads. [1:15:14] So, next one. [1:15:16] So over the years, TCD regional partnerships [1:15:18] have been established in eight geographical areas [1:15:20] throughout the state. [1:15:21] They're led by a regional TCD coordinators such as myself. [1:15:24] Each has a local steering committee [1:15:26] made up of traffic safety stakeholders from that region. [1:15:29] These are led by MnDOT district engineer [1:15:31] and a State Patrol captain. [1:15:33] Also included on the map are two state program TCD coordinators. [1:15:37] We just recently added a communications leader, [1:15:41] so hopefully, that will help us push out our messaging. [1:15:44] There's also four law enforcement liaisons [1:15:46] who work with all levels of law enforcement agencies [1:15:48] across the state, and three child passenger safety [1:15:51] liaisons who make sure our kiddos [1:15:53] are in those right car seats. [1:15:56] Let's go to the next one. [1:15:57] So right now, there are currently [1:15:59] six funded and one unfunded active [1:16:01] TCD safe roads coalitions in our region. [1:16:04] So our educational efforts only improve [1:16:06] as more of these coalitions are established. [1:16:08] But as Kathy may talk about, they have to apply for a grant. [1:16:11] And if they don't receive the grant, [1:16:13] they don't get to do the work or aren't able to do the work. [1:16:17] So, next slide. [1:16:19] So each of these coalitions bring together community members [1:16:22] from the five E's to address areas of concern [1:16:25] for their specific county or community. [1:16:27] So crash data is reviewed and counties develop a plan [1:16:30] for addressing these crashes. [1:16:32] They also implement activities and best practices [1:16:35] to make the greatest impact on reducing those serious and fatal [1:16:38] injury crashes. [1:16:39] So the coalitions also assist law [1:16:41] enforcement during the enforcement periods [1:16:43] with educational efforts. [1:16:45] So they really are boots on the ground doing all [1:16:48] the work, very important work. [1:16:50] Next slide. [1:16:52] So these are just a few of the focus areas that we work on. [1:16:55] Kathy will talk more about Rice County efforts [1:16:57] when she steps up. [1:16:58] But if you have any questions about those, [1:17:00] you can feel free to let me know. [1:17:03] So, next one. [1:17:04] So this is just a quick glance at some [1:17:06] of the regional successes over the past year. [1:17:08] I'm not going to read them to you, [1:17:09] don't worry, but you should have those on your own screen. [1:17:13] If you have any questions, let me know. [1:17:14] But I just want to point out there's [1:17:15] a bunch that really started in Rice County, [1:17:18] like Joyride, for instance. [1:17:19] Joyride Rice County was the first county [1:17:22] to implement Joyride. [1:17:23] They were the first County to work on the driver's [1:17:25] license for all programs. [1:17:27] You can add to this if you want, but there's so many things [1:17:30] that Rice County has really implemented and kicked [1:17:32] off for the whole state. [1:17:33] So, next one. [1:17:37] So since TCD started, together, we have saved more than 4,700 [1:17:41] lives, which is 220 per year. [1:17:43] So that is a great work, but-- [1:17:45] next slide-- but there's a lot of work to be done. [1:17:49] So as of September 12, last Friday, there [1:17:52] were 253 fatalities on Minnesota roads, [1:17:55] compared to 310 at this time last year. [1:17:56] Well, that number, I just got it right as I walked up, [1:17:59] and it is 261. [1:18:03] So that means that-- how many people is that died [1:18:06] from Friday until today? [1:18:08] So that's a big number for our weekend. [1:18:11] So there's a lot of work to be done to date in Rice County-- [1:18:15] or, I'll just let you go. [1:18:19] KATHY COOPER: Thank you, Jessica. [1:18:22] I'm going to talk a little bit about our Rice [1:18:25] County crash facts. [1:18:27] One of the requirements of the grant, [1:18:29] the TCD grant that we receive, is [1:18:31] that we have a fatal and serious injury review committee, [1:18:35] and we are required to meet quarterly. [1:18:38] So we track crashes in Rice County with the help of our law [1:18:44] enforcement and other partners, and then we [1:18:47] meet quarterly to review them. [1:18:49] We're not reviewing them to assign blame or anything, [1:18:53] but what we're looking at is why did that crash happen. [1:18:57] What are the trends? [1:18:58] What can we do to prevent that crash, that type of crash [1:19:03] from happening again? [1:19:05] So the crash facts report that I have in this presentation [1:19:13] is incomplete. [1:19:14] We're still working on it, waiting for some data [1:19:19] to complete it, but it's a report from 2020 to 2024. [1:19:24] And you'll see that there was 120 total serious and fatal [1:19:31] injury crashes in Rice County. [1:19:34] We average about 750 crashes in Rice County every year, so two [1:19:42] a day-- [1:19:43] two a day. [1:19:45] And that's been pretty consistent throughout the years. [1:19:50] In 2025, we know that we have already had-- [1:19:56] question? [1:19:57] MALE SPEAKER: Yeah, go ahead. [1:19:58] MALE SPEAKER: Are you including-- [1:19:59] is this outside the cities, county-based? [1:20:02] Or is this including some of the city? [1:20:05] KATHY COOPER: It includes the cities, the counties. [1:20:07] So Northfield, Faribault, Lonsdale, and then countywide. [1:20:14] MALE SPEAKER: So the cities are included? [1:20:16] KATHY COOPER: Yes, the cities are included, yes. [1:20:19] But it's all broken out, so the reports that we do [1:20:23] are by city and then by the county, and then a total. [1:20:31] MALE SPEAKER: My other question is, [1:20:32] do you guys track the location of these accidents [1:20:36] for interception? [1:20:37] KATHY COOPER: Yep, yep. [1:20:39] Dennis Luebbe with Rice County Highway Department, [1:20:42] he's one of the members on the fatal review committee. [1:20:47] And he'll look at those trends and the locations. [1:20:55] And a lot of times, he goes right out to the site [1:20:58] and to see, do we have proper signage there? [1:21:02] What's going on here? [1:21:04] He's a very important part of our fatal review committee [1:21:07] because he can provide that perspective [1:21:10] and he can get things done. [1:21:12] If a motorcycle is going off of a curve on a certain road, [1:21:19] he'll go out and check that curve. [1:21:21] And do we have signage to alert the motorcycle rider [1:21:26] that there's a curve coming up? [1:21:29] And curves are hard for motorcycles. [1:21:33] We've got data that shows that as well. [1:21:36] So any more questions on the '20 to '24 [1:21:40] or the fatal review committee? [1:21:44] In 2025, already to date, we've had four [1:21:51] fatal crashes in Rice County. [1:21:53] And the one thing that we have noticed already [1:21:57] and have recorded is that all four of the fatalities [1:22:01] were over 65. [1:22:03] So that's telling us right there, [1:22:07] we need to focus on our older drivers. [1:22:10] And so we wrote some things into our 2026 grant application [1:22:18] with that in mind. [1:22:20] One of the things that we did this past year [1:22:23] is called Car Fit. [1:22:24] And we had a Car Fit clinic in Northfield in May. [1:22:28] We're trying to bring it to Faribault. We're hoping [1:22:30] that the senior centers will take it up and do it [1:22:34] as a regular clinic, but that's to help older people fit [1:22:39] in their cars so that they're driving more safely, that they [1:22:45] can see out of their mirrors on the side, their rear view, [1:22:49] that they're at the right height and the right distance [1:22:52] from the steering wheel. [1:22:54] So lots of work to do there. [1:22:58] And then there's been 15 serious injury crashes already in 2025. [1:23:05] And four of those were with older drivers. [1:23:08] So we'll be meeting for our fourth quarter [1:23:12] fatal review committee at the end of the month, September 29. [1:23:17] And we'll finish up this crash facts report, [1:23:20] and then we'll get it out to you so that you have the data. [1:23:25] What else, here? [1:23:26] Oh, TCD work in Rice County. [1:23:29] So every year, we have to apply for the grant around again, [1:23:34] and we do that with Public Health. [1:23:36] Deb helps write that grant, and there's [1:23:40] two grants that are awarded. [1:23:42] One is the education grant through Public Health, [1:23:47] and then local law enforcement also writes a grant [1:23:51] for extra enforcement help. [1:23:57] And that kind of rotates through the law [1:23:59] enforcement and Rice County. [1:24:01] So in this year, 2025, Northfield [1:24:05] has been the coordinator for the enforcement grant. [1:24:08] Lonsdale wrote it for 2026. [1:24:10] We're still waiting to hear about that [1:24:13] and hoping that we get that grant. [1:24:16] The next slide, please. [1:24:19] Our Safe Roads Coalition members has been pretty [1:24:23] steady over the past years. [1:24:26] They are wonderful members. [1:24:29] I can't tell you how much support that they [1:24:32] provide to the coalition. [1:24:34] Anything I ask of them, they step right up. [1:24:38] They may not always be at our meetings, but I can call on them [1:24:43] and they provide for traffic safety [1:24:49] activities in Rice County. [1:24:51] Next slide, please. [1:24:54] Some of the local efforts this grant period, [1:24:59] we sponsor or provide a Thanksgiving Eve DWI kickoff [1:25:04] this past fall Thanksgiving. [1:25:08] It was held at the Northfield police [1:25:09] department on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. [1:25:14] All law enforcement are invited. [1:25:17] The county attorney comes. [1:25:19] Media is there. [1:25:21] Minnesotans For Safe Driving and myself are there. [1:25:26] We also recognize the law enforcement [1:25:30] officer in the county that has the most DWI citations. [1:25:35] So last year, there were two officers that tied [1:25:39] and they're given a certificate of appreciation. [1:25:44] Nancy Johnson with Minnesotans For Safe Driving and I [1:25:48] provide pizza for the officers. [1:25:51] And sometimes, there's an impact speaker. [1:25:56] The County attorney will speak. [1:25:59] It's a great time to get together [1:26:01] and thank them for their work. [1:26:05] They're going out on Thanksgiving Eve, [1:26:09] when they would probably rather be home with their families, [1:26:13] helping to stuff that turkey and make pies for the next day, [1:26:17] but they're out on the road to help ensure our safety. [1:26:20] So that's a huge event for us. [1:26:23] This last year in Northfield too, [1:26:26] we always try and do a poster and some media coverage, a PSA. [1:26:33] And Kevin Tussing was able to bring in the Jesse James Gang [1:26:41] to help us do that. [1:26:42] And we had Sam Temple from the City of Northfield [1:26:48] communications department, and Susie Rook. [1:26:52] They were both there taking photos of the James gang. [1:26:56] All our law enforcement were in red cowboy hats, [1:27:00] Santa hats, cowboy Santa hats. [1:27:02] And Susie did a fabulous poster, and then Sam Temple [1:27:07] did a PSA that we were able to put on the city [1:27:10] web pages and Facebook. [1:27:12] So we really try and get it out there. [1:27:15] We try not to be all doom and gloom about it, [1:27:20] but raise awareness. [1:27:22] This is important. [1:27:24] This is serious. [1:27:24] This is life and death matters, so huge event. [1:27:29] And then the Car Fit safety clinic, I spoke about. [1:27:34] We partnered with Faribault's Double [1:27:36] Impact for a traffic safety week at Bethlehem Academy. [1:27:40] Double Impact led the charge and it was a great event [1:27:47] at Bethlehem Academy. [1:27:48] It was for the sophomore and senior students. [1:27:51] They brought in the drunk carts with the fatal vision goggles, [1:27:55] and we've actually had those for the county board in the past, [1:27:59] and a little course out in the parking lot [1:28:02] where you've had to put the goggles on and drive through it. [1:28:06] So they brought that into the high school. [1:28:08] It was very successful. [1:28:10] And then on Wednesday, there was a mini mock crash there. [1:28:14] Again, law enforcement and Double Impact, fire department, [1:28:19] they handled that. [1:28:20] They brought in a helicopter, landed. [1:28:23] So that was another huge event. [1:28:25] They had an assembly at the high school, [1:28:28] and we brought in a crash car that was [1:28:31] posted on campus before prom. [1:28:35] We also partnered or participated, [1:28:40] I guess, at the Safe Summer Kickoff in Faribault [1:28:43] on the last day of school. [1:28:45] We brought in the seat belt convincer [1:28:47] and we also had a crash car there as well. [1:28:50] The belt convincer was a lot of fun. [1:28:53] We get a lot of teens that take a ride on the seat belt [1:28:59] convincer, and then they can put their name in a drawing [1:29:02] for a Kwik Trip card. [1:29:04] A lot of little kids want to ride it, [1:29:08] but we set an age limit. [1:29:09] You have to be 14, but the little kids watch and we always [1:29:14] ask their parents to take a ride since their child can't [1:29:19] show them what it's all about, so [1:29:22] another great education piece. [1:29:25] And then, Joyride was provided at the Defeat [1:29:30] of Jesse James Days. [1:29:32] Again, many, many, many, many thanks [1:29:35] to the committee and the Northfield police department who [1:29:38] provided the funding for the epic shuttle and driver. [1:29:43] It ran all three nights. [1:29:47] She was extremely busy on Saturday night, which is usual. [1:29:52] But the thing that struck me this year was the riders [1:29:56] were so appreciative. [1:29:58] On and on, and on, thank you so much. [1:30:02] Northfield is wonderful to provide this kind of service. [1:30:06] I wasn't going to comment until I saw this. [1:30:09] So that was really, really exciting to hear that. [1:30:13] And I didn't see any public intoxication, [1:30:19] and that was really good too. [1:30:21] People were having fun and being responsible. [1:30:24] So I think Joyride, even though the rider numbers aren't huge, [1:30:31] it provides a lot of education and awareness [1:30:34] on don't drink and drive in our community during this event. [1:30:39] There still was a few DWIs, but there were [1:30:43] no crashes, so that was good. [1:30:46] And then, I mentioned the quarterly fatal and serious [1:30:50] injury committee reviews that we do. [1:30:52] [1:30:55] We also have presentations at driver's ed classes [1:31:00] related to alcohol and drugs. [1:31:02] I'm a speaker. [1:31:05] Public Health also has a speaker that does cannabis education [1:31:10] at driver's ed and in the health classes [1:31:14] at the public high school, so that's really good. [1:31:21] And then we always support the enforcement calendar with media [1:31:25] releases and Facebook posts. [1:31:27] And that's thanks to Susie Rook here [1:31:31] at Rice County Communications. [1:31:33] She's a great partner and she does a lot of work for us [1:31:37] on that, so we appreciate it. [1:31:39] And then, next slide, please. [1:31:43] You'll see just some photos. [1:31:45] The Car Fit clinic. [1:31:46] There's the Jesse James Gang poster that we put out. [1:31:51] The PSA can be found on the City of Northfield website. [1:31:55] I think it's also posted with Rice County. [1:31:59] There's the crash car that we had at Bethlehem Academy [1:32:03] and at Safe Summer Kickoff. [1:32:06] And then, I forgot to thank College [1:32:09] City Beverage for the banners. [1:32:12] They print all the banners and posters for the Joyride event, [1:32:18] and they really did a fabulous job this year too. [1:32:22] I went in the entertainment tent and they [1:32:24] had banners on the outside. [1:32:26] They had banners on the inside. [1:32:27] They had posters all over. [1:32:30] For the first time, I had riders coming to the pick [1:32:36] up location with tickets filled out. [1:32:40] Every year, I print 500 tickets and [1:32:43] distribute them to the local bars [1:32:45] and in the entertainment tent. [1:32:47] And I've never had anybody come to the pick [1:32:50] up location with their ticket, so I always have a handful. [1:32:54] They have to put their address on the ticket. [1:32:57] That's the only reason that they need a ticket, is so that we can [1:33:01] have their address for the driver, [1:33:03] so the driver knows where to take them. [1:33:05] So anyhow, that was an improvement. [1:33:10] So there, again, you'll see our Rice County Safe [1:33:15] Roads Coalition mission, to move Rice County toward zero deaths. [1:33:20] We've been close. [1:33:22] We've had some years with only two fatalities, [1:33:25] and that's encouraging. [1:33:27] And we're going to get there, I know it. [1:33:30] And then, if you want to get involved, [1:33:35] come to the Safe Roads Coalition meetings or support us. [1:33:40] We also attend the Southeast TCD Steering Committee. [1:33:45] And then, attend the state conference this year. [1:33:50] It's in Prior Lake, October 21 to 22, [1:33:54] and we have had county board commissioners [1:33:57] attend in the past. [1:33:59] We've had the county attorney and law enforcement, [1:34:02] lots of good folks. [1:34:04] And it's a great event, a lot of workshops to choose from. [1:34:09] And then, you'll see on the last page, our regional posters. [1:34:16] So every year, the region, Jessica, [1:34:20] will organize a photo shoot of all law enforcement [1:34:25] and first responders for a photo shoot [1:34:29] that we can distribute for seat belt awareness [1:34:34] prior to seat belt campaign. [1:34:36] And so it moves throughout the county, the 11 counties. [1:34:40] We did it in 2012 at Northfield Hospital. [1:34:44] And this year, we did it at the new Public Safety Center [1:34:49] in Faribault. So there's the poster. [1:34:52] The poster was printed by Neuger Communications. [1:34:58] They did 500 large posters for $40. [1:35:03] So they were a great partner too, and we thank them for that. [1:35:07] So thank you very much. [1:35:08] Any questions, anybody? [1:35:10] [1:35:12] Thank you. [1:35:13] MALE SPEAKER: Not necessarily-- [1:35:14] KATHY COOPER: Oh, I'm sorry. [1:35:15] MALE SPEAKER: No, it's OK. [1:35:16] Not necessarily a question, but a statement. [1:35:18] Thank you for what you do. [1:35:20] You've been doing this for how many years now? [1:35:22] KATHY COOPER: 18. [1:35:23] MALE SPEAKER: 18. [1:35:24] And we appreciate it. [1:35:27] MALE SPEAKER: Well, thank you. [1:35:28] KATHY COOPER: There's so many different factors, [1:35:30] from seat belts, to drinking, to inattentive [1:35:34] driving, to these things. [1:35:36] And we have an aging society, so when you have training for 65 [1:35:43] plus, it's a lot of factors that come [1:35:47] into just driving a vehicle. [1:35:48] KATHY COOPER: Right. [1:35:49] And now, thanks to our legislature passing [1:35:54] legalized recreational marijuana, that's [1:35:57] going to be another issue. [1:35:59] I mean, it's already an issue, but it's probably [1:36:01] going to be a greater issue. [1:36:03] So, thank you. [1:36:05] DEB PURFEERST: And I just want to keep Kathy up here a second [1:36:07] and point out that Kathy has served [1:36:10] in a very long time in Rice County [1:36:13] to promote traffic safety. [1:36:15] So we're really grateful for her work and her dedication. [1:36:19] In 2024, Kathy was the recipient of the Kathy Swanson Outstanding [1:36:24] Service Award for Exceptional Leadership in her efforts [1:36:27] to improve traffic safety in Minnesota, [1:36:31] and it was because of Kathy's work. [1:36:34] Unfortunately, her daughter was killed in a traffic crash [1:36:39] a number of years ago, but she led the efforts [1:36:42] to improve the laws for the primary seat belt law, [1:36:46] and it was because of Kathy's dedicated work [1:36:49] that that happened. [1:36:50] So we really appreciate all the work that she [1:36:54] has done in Rice County. [1:36:55] I would also like to shout out to some of the Rice County staff [1:37:00] who are very helpful with our coalition. [1:37:04] We have the county attorney's office, law enforcement, highway [1:37:08] department and communications, and they are all very active [1:37:13] partners on our coalition, so we couldn't [1:37:16] get the work done without them. [1:37:17] So, thank you. [1:37:18] Again, thank you. [1:37:20] Any other questions about Safe Roads Coalition? [1:37:23] MALE SPEAKER: Well, I'd like to give it up [1:37:24] for Kathy and your whole staff. [1:37:26] So let's-- [1:37:27] DEB PURFEERST: Yeah, thank you Kathy. [1:37:28] [APPLAUSE] [1:37:30] [1:37:31] KATHY COOPER: So we have a We Care card because we do care. [1:37:35] Law enforcement is not out there just giving citations. [1:37:40] They're trying to educate the driving public. [1:37:43] We care. [1:37:44] We care. [1:37:45] DEB PURFEERST: Kathy did bring the fatal vision goggles, [1:37:49] but I don't think we're going to take time to do that. [1:37:51] But later, if any of you want to put them on and see what it [1:37:55] would be like if you are using cannabis products, [1:37:59] it gives you a good indication of what that is [1:38:01] and how that might affect your driving. [1:38:05] So that concludes includes our safe roads presentation. [1:38:09] I'm going to move over to the second thing [1:38:12] that Public Health is going to present about. [1:38:15] So we're going to give you an update on our community [1:38:18] health assessment process. [1:38:20] So as a reminder, all Minnesota Community Health boards [1:38:24] are mandated to participate in assessment and planning [1:38:28] and to determine local public health priorities [1:38:31] and focus local resources on the greatest community [1:38:35] and organizational needs. [1:38:37] So we did have a community health assessment and planning [1:38:40] meeting in March of this year to prioritize some of the issues. [1:38:45] I have Sarah Coulter here. [1:38:47] She is our clinic and community supervisor, [1:38:50] and she's going to give a brief update about some [1:38:54] of the work that was done in March, [1:38:56] as well as some of the next steps moving forward. [1:38:59] So, thank you, Sarah. [1:39:01] SARAH COULTER: Thank you. [1:39:02] So good morning, everyone. [1:39:05] I'm Sarah Coulter. [1:39:06] I am the clinic and community supervisor, as Deb indicated, [1:39:10] and I have been in this role since 2013. [1:39:13] So that actually means this is my fourth go [1:39:15] around with this process. [1:39:17] So we keep doing things a little bit [1:39:19] differently, improving, learning some new skills. [1:39:21] And I want to acknowledge that the things that have been talked [1:39:24] about today, I've heard at least 15 different points that you're [1:39:27] going to hear a little bit about in this presentation as well. [1:39:31] Health is in all policies. [1:39:33] So just hearing some of these things, [1:39:35] I'm going to try and point out where they connect to our work [1:39:37] as well. [1:39:38] So in the world of public health, this process, [1:39:42] this community health assessment and improvement planning-- [1:39:45] you can go to the next slide-- [1:39:46] is required by the Local Public Health Act of 1976. [1:39:51] So I'm going to take you a little bit through this wheel [1:39:54] here. [1:39:54] Our goals are to increase your understanding of the health [1:39:57] of the people of Rice County, to walk through this process of how [1:40:01] we identified our top three health-related needs [1:40:05] in the county, and then to lay out our next steps, which [1:40:08] get to the heart of strategizing with the community [1:40:12] and our partners to address those needs. [1:40:16] So, go ahead. [1:40:17] We do this process through a variety of methods. [1:40:20] This assessment piece, that first part of our wheel. [1:40:23] The first part is really data that we [1:40:27] gather from national, local and state sources. [1:40:30] It's me going clickety-click, click, click in my office [1:40:33] pulling data from the census, from the Minnesota student [1:40:36] survey, et cetera, putting it into tables, charts, and graphs, [1:40:39] and trying to understand that data. [1:40:41] We also do a mailed survey. [1:40:43] So if you go to the next slide, you'll [1:40:45] see that we do hire a survey company to format the survey [1:40:49] and to handle the distribution of that survey. [1:40:53] In this last round of surveying, it was 57 questions long. [1:41:01] We're working to shorten that. [1:41:03] That's a lot of questions for the public. [1:41:05] We did have a 27% response rate, which is still pretty good. [1:41:12] But in 2021, we had a 38% response rate. [1:41:16] So we are making efforts to shorten that survey, for sure. [1:41:21] The survey results are actually weighted [1:41:23] to ensure that the results more accurately reflect [1:41:26] our population. [1:41:27] For example, we don't survey students, [1:41:29] so this is not representative of college students at all. [1:41:33] And the number of respondents who participate in a written [1:41:37] survey like that, they're typically older [1:41:39] and they're typically white women. [1:41:42] So the results are weighted to be more [1:41:44] reflective of our population and we [1:41:46] can't use this data at all to represent our people of color [1:41:50] in Rice County. [1:41:52] So all of these results were compiled into a report, which [1:41:56] is available on our website. [1:41:58] And I am going to go through the results of that survey [1:42:01] and the data gathering in a little bit, [1:42:03] but I did want to show you the next part of the wheel. [1:42:07] So the report and the survey are building our assessment, [1:42:13] and then we have to do this prioritization piece. [1:42:18] So to move into that, we actually asked for help. [1:42:22] We don't do that easily downstairs, [1:42:24] but we did ask for help from the Minnesota [1:42:26] Department of Health, their data and technical assistance team. [1:42:30] I'm really grateful that we did do [1:42:31] that because they-- go ahead-- [1:42:33] they helped us prepare for this meeting [1:42:36] that we hosted with the community. [1:42:38] We did gain some new skills and it did push [1:42:43] us to try different new things. [1:42:45] So that meeting was held on March 18. [1:42:49] And if you would please raise your hand [1:42:52] if you were able to attend that meeting, [1:42:55] or you can just raise your hand if you wish [1:42:58] you had attended that meeting. [1:42:59] And I really hope everyone's hand goes up because I'm [1:43:02] going to give you this. [1:43:03] Oh, sorry. [1:43:04] I can't reach that. [1:43:05] That's all right. [1:43:05] MALE SPEAKER: I think we all did. [1:43:06] SARAH COULTER: Just hold on to this. [1:43:08] Don't do anything with it right now, just hold on to it. [1:43:11] All right, so there you go. [1:43:14] So since everyone did raise their hand [1:43:16] and was hoping that they could either have been there [1:43:19] or that they were there, at this meeting, [1:43:23] 45 people from the community were in attendance. [1:43:26] And we did try some new tools. [1:43:27] If anybody's ever worked with Padlet, [1:43:29] you'll see it in a little bit. [1:43:30] And we use these data sheets that the data [1:43:32] and technical assistance team helped us develop. [1:43:35] So before we get into the-- go ahead. [1:43:38] Before we get into the results of this data [1:43:41] and what the health of the people of Rice County [1:43:43] looks like, I want to just give you a quick overview. [1:43:46] We've got about 68,000 people in Rice County. [1:43:49] We are increasingly diverse, and about 11% of our population [1:43:54] lives in poverty. [1:43:57] So as we do this, do you guys have your cell phones with you? [1:44:02] MALE SPEAKER: Yes. [1:44:03] SARAH COULTER: If you would please play along with me, [1:44:05] I'd like to try something new with you guys, [1:44:07] because we're constantly trying to innovate and keep people's [1:44:09] attention and try new things. [1:44:11] So if you would please go to menti.com on your cell phone. [1:44:17] And then at the top, you're going to see [1:44:18] a spot to plug in a code. [1:44:20] And that code is there. [1:44:22] It's going to stay on the next few slides. [1:44:24] So if it takes you a bit to get there, [1:44:28] your connectivity is slow, you will get there. [1:44:30] We're going to go on to the next slide. [1:44:32] But all you're going to do at this point is go to the website [1:44:35] and plug in the access code, and then you can [1:44:39] put your phone down for a bit. [1:44:41] So once I am done reviewing the health topics, [1:44:44] I do want you to vote. [1:44:46] So Menti is a voting tool that I want [1:44:48] you to try out with me today. [1:44:50] Anyone is welcome to vote. [1:44:51] So if members of the public at home, they want to try voting, [1:44:55] again, the information is on the slides. [1:44:57] People in the room, you're welcome to vote. [1:44:59] This is just to help us understand [1:45:03] and stay tuned into the data. [1:45:04] We will be looking at the results at the end of this. [1:45:07] So again, on this slide and the next several, [1:45:10] that Menti information is on there. [1:45:13] All right, let's go on. [1:45:15] So the first data slide that we're going to look at [1:45:17] is around health care access. [1:45:19] And you can see, this is how we oriented the public. [1:45:21] So the exclamation points are where we emphasized items that [1:45:26] were particularly noteworthy. [1:45:29] I am limiting myself to one data point on each of these slides [1:45:33] and I'm sheepish to tell you that I did miss one slide, [1:45:37] so I'll just verbally talk through that one. [1:45:40] So in no particular order, we're starting [1:45:42] off with health care access. [1:45:44] Rice County has more people per provider [1:45:47] than the state average for dental, mental health, [1:45:50] and physical primary care. [1:45:52] So more patients per provider than the state average. [1:45:57] I just want you to think about how that impacts a person's [1:46:00] ability to manage their chronic disease, [1:46:02] or to get in for an appointment. [1:46:04] Next slide, we've got on the bottom right, only 45% [1:46:09] of our children and teens who are enrolled [1:46:11] in medical assistance-- so our low income [1:46:14] families-- have completed their well-child exam. [1:46:18] But parents know that these exams are an important part [1:46:22] of catching their child's development [1:46:25] or physical care needs early on so that they can be addressed. [1:46:29] The sooner that we detect something, the more likely [1:46:32] we are to have a successful health outcome of whatever [1:46:35] is identified. [1:46:37] So that's preventative screenings. [1:46:39] Physical health. [1:46:40] So this sheet really captures our leading causes of death. [1:46:46] And those are labeled in Rice County by one, two, skip a few, [1:46:50] and then 4, 5, 6. [1:46:54] The one I want to point about out here [1:46:56] is in your top right quadrant. [1:46:58] We've got 38% of our population has high blood pressure. [1:47:03] High blood pressure is a modifiable health risk. [1:47:07] So that is something you can actually do something about. [1:47:11] That number has also been increasing. [1:47:15] All right. [1:47:15] Next slide, we've got our childhood immunizations. [1:47:18] And I'd like to point out that we have decreasing vaccination [1:47:23] uptake here in Rice County. [1:47:25] So there's four data points on here and all four of them [1:47:28] are asterisked, so I'm just going [1:47:30] to summarize it by saying we have decreasing [1:47:32] vaccinations in Rice County. [1:47:34] And there was a pertussis outbreak in Minnesota in 2024. [1:47:39] Next slide. [1:47:40] I lumped the youth and the adults [1:47:42] together when it comes to weight status. [1:47:44] Our adults are actually-- if we look at overweight and obese [1:47:48] together, 75% of our Rice County residents [1:47:52] are overweight or obese. [1:47:54] And being in those weight categories [1:47:56] has an impact on our chronic disease, which [1:47:58] just two slides ago, I told you was one [1:48:01] of our leading causes of death. [1:48:03] So I also wanted to point out-- so I'm cheating [1:48:06] and I'm doing two on this one-- that as our screen [1:48:09] time increases, oh, it's actually-- no, it's right here. [1:48:13] So as our screen time increases, so sedentary time, [1:48:17] so does our experience with anxiety and depression. [1:48:20] You're going to see that here coming up soon too. [1:48:24] So on this slide, we've got our youth [1:48:26] and our adult substance abuse. [1:48:28] And I just want to say that our children reflect [1:48:31] the behaviors of the adults. [1:48:32] So we've got increasing amounts of cannabis. [1:48:37] Tobacco is actually going down a little bit. [1:48:39] And tobacco is actually higher in southern Rice County. [1:48:42] So if you're a commissioner in southern Rice County, [1:48:45] take a look at that top right area, [1:48:48] looking at Southern Rice County split by northern Rice County. [1:48:52] Pause here, Sarah, because this is where I forgot [1:48:54] the slide on mental health. [1:48:57] Sorry about that, it's actually a really important one. [1:49:00] And one in three adults have either anxiety [1:49:03] or depression in Rice County. [1:49:06] It's the same for our children. [1:49:08] It's also interesting that when you look at loneliness, [1:49:10] one in three of our adults experience loneliness. [1:49:14] So that number has increased very significantly since 2016. [1:49:22] We're going to go on. [1:49:23] The next slide is around maternal health. [1:49:26] As you know, I do work with our WIC services as well. [1:49:30] And I want to point out that this [1:49:31] is an area WIC is going to be focusing [1:49:33] on in the next two years. [1:49:35] 37% of our WIC moms have a low hemoglobin. [1:49:39] Hemoglobin is like the iron in your blood, [1:49:41] and it's what carries oxygen. A woman is building another human [1:49:45] at this time, and that human needs blood volume, [1:49:47] and so does mom. [1:49:48] So in their third trimester, we have 37% of our WIC moms [1:49:52] with low hemoglobin. [1:49:54] That is actually higher when you look at it by race. [1:49:57] So our white moms experience lower levels of low hemoglobin, [1:50:01] and our Black and our Hispanic moms [1:50:03] experience greater levels of low hemoglobin. [1:50:06] So low hemoglobin in pregnancy increases [1:50:09] risk of premature babies, so babies born before 37 weeks. [1:50:13] I'm guessing some of you guys have [1:50:14] had experiences with premature babies in your lives. [1:50:18] Those babies are also at risk of low birth weight [1:50:21] and at risk of infection or the mother [1:50:24] bleeding out during birth. [1:50:25] So 37% of our moms are experiencing this. [1:50:30] All right, our housing slide. [1:50:33] We've got nearly half of our renters [1:50:35] in Rice County are paying 30% or more of their income on rent. [1:50:42] You already knew that, I'm thinking, [1:50:43] but that is really, really significant. [1:50:46] Motor vehicle safety. [1:50:48] Shout out to Kathy who, I don't know if she's still in the room, [1:50:51] but two in five of our students report distracted driving. [1:50:57] Commissioner Mallika pointed out all the distractions [1:50:59] that are available to us when we're driving, [1:51:03] and so just a nod to Kathy on that part of her work. [1:51:07] Violence, abuse, and neglect. [1:51:10] One in 10 of our students report emotional or physical abuse. [1:51:14] There's also some information from Megan Thomas's unit [1:51:17] or department on this slide as well, [1:51:20] regarding the number of children in out-of-home foster care. [1:51:25] All right, that is what I would like to call a turn [1:51:28] and burn on the data related to Rice County. [1:51:32] And this is where we're going to pause so that you guys can vote. [1:51:35] So if you would again pull up your Menti, what I want you [1:51:38] to do is choose three categories where [1:51:40] you think it's the outstanding or one of the top three [1:51:44] of those categories. [1:51:46] Just select them, and then Sarah, [1:51:49] if you would go to our website so we can start [1:51:51] seeing how you guys voted. [1:51:53] [1:51:58] MALE SPEAKER: So you just told us we're going to get depressed [1:52:01] if we're on the screen time and now you [1:52:03] got us playing on our phones. [1:52:05] SARAH COULTER: Yeah, yep. [1:52:06] You're absolutely right, I do. [1:52:08] But after this, please feel free to turn it off. [1:52:12] All right, so what you can see, we've got-- [1:52:14] oh, good. [1:52:15] You're still voting. [1:52:16] I'm going to let it settle for a bit. [1:52:19] MALE SPEAKER: I was paying attention. [1:52:21] SARAH COULTER: And dang, we're going [1:52:22] to need some tiebreakers here. [1:52:24] So if somebody else wants to vote, [1:52:26] you can see that the number one issue here is housing, [1:52:29] and then we've got a whole lot. [1:52:31] And I'm not too surprised. [1:52:32] All of these things is a pressing health need. [1:52:36] We're only able to focus on the top three, [1:52:39] and now we've got three. [1:52:40] So let's just go with this. [1:52:42] We've got physical health, substance use, and housing. [1:52:45] So just in this kind of-- [1:52:46] I'm sorry, I'm pretty informal about some of this [1:52:49] and this spitball method. [1:52:50] This is what we came up with, those [1:52:52] being the top three-- housing, physical health, [1:52:55] and substance use. [1:52:56] Let's take a look, Sarah, if you would go back to the top three [1:52:59] that the community identified. [1:53:01] When the community went through this process which, granted, [1:53:05] they got a whole lot more meat on the bones [1:53:07] in this presentation. [1:53:08] We really took some time to digest it with our partners. [1:53:11] And these are the top three that they came up with. [1:53:14] Housing, mental health, and health care access. [1:53:18] So we can go to the next slide because this is the tool Padlet. [1:53:23] Super, super messy, but it worked brilliantly. [1:53:26] You're getting the summary, but we spent the rest of our meeting [1:53:31] after we identified the top three, really diving [1:53:34] deep on those three topics of housing, [1:53:37] mental health, and health care. [1:53:38] And we talked about what is helping [1:53:42] on this issue of mental health, housing, and health care, [1:53:47] and what is contributing, what's making it worse. [1:53:50] And everybody just kept dumping their ideas and information [1:53:53] into this tool, Padlet. [1:53:56] And now what we've done-- [1:53:59] well, then, we stopped the meeting. [1:54:02] Well, no, I guess not. [1:54:04] We closed the meeting by asking who [1:54:06] wants to be involved in the next steps of this process. [1:54:10] So we can go to the next slide, because I've [1:54:12] taken you all the way around to number three here. [1:54:15] We are currently strategizing. [1:54:17] So we're taking these top three health issues [1:54:20] and we're meeting with work groups, which are going to begin [1:54:24] meeting later on this month. [1:54:26] And then we're going to be setting [1:54:27] some goals, some strategies, and objectives. [1:54:30] And we're going to develop measurement [1:54:34] in order to be able to see whether or not [1:54:35] we're having an impact. [1:54:37] So the population measure is something we just measure [1:54:42] periodically, not regularly. [1:54:45] So when we look at the fact that one in three of our adults [1:54:48] is experiencing anxiety or depression, [1:54:50] if I measure that every week, I'm [1:54:52] not going to see much change. [1:54:54] But if I measure the efforts that the community is having [1:54:57] around, like, raising awareness about mental health needs, [1:55:01] increasing the number of providers, [1:55:02] those things change more regularly. [1:55:04] And then we pull our population measure again [1:55:07] in about three years and see if we've had a positive impact [1:55:11] on that outcome. [1:55:14] So since our technology worked, I don't actually [1:55:17] need you to use your red packets in the way [1:55:20] that I thought I might need you to use them [1:55:22] if our technology didn't work. [1:55:24] But in recognition that one of our top health needs [1:55:26] is mental health, when you open up [1:55:28] your packet, what you're going to find in [1:55:30] there is three wooden hearts. [1:55:32] And again, since our technology worked and mental health [1:55:35] is a top health need in Rice County, [1:55:37] you can feel free to take those three wooden hearts [1:55:40] and distribute them to three people. [1:55:43] I'm going to ask you to find three people that you want [1:55:46] to appreciate, or just send a message of kindness [1:55:49] to, and give those little hearts of kindness away. [1:55:51] So thank you for your time today. [1:55:54] What questions may I help with? [1:55:56] [1:55:59] MALE SPEAKER: Well, Sarah, I enjoy your energy [1:56:01] and your presentations. [1:56:04] SARAH COULTER: Love working here. [1:56:05] We've got some good stuff going on. [1:56:08] MALE SPEAKER: Yes. [1:56:08] Any other comments? [1:56:11] Thank you, Sarah. [1:56:12] That was very good. [1:56:13] SARAH COULTER: Thank you. [1:56:16] MALE SPEAKER: Commissioners, are you doing good? [1:56:19] Stay with it? [1:56:20] [1:56:22] We got the honorable Dennis Luebbe coming up. [1:56:25] [1:56:32] DENNIS LUEBBE: Good morning. [1:56:33] MALE SPEAKER: Good morning. [1:56:34] MALE SPEAKER: Good morning. [1:56:35] DENNIS LUEBBE: So I'll keep some updates brief. [1:56:37] It's been a long morning. [1:56:38] I know Paula wanted to know how long I was going to talk [1:56:41] because she's ready to go. [1:56:45] Just some updates from highways. [1:56:46] I'll focus on construction, mostly. [1:56:49] A couple projects, well, all projects are moving along fine. [1:56:53] I think in the next couple of weeks, [1:56:54] we'll be really close to wrapping up several of them. [1:56:59] I do want to point out that on our County Road 50, that's [1:57:02] that reconstruction project, we ran [1:57:03] into two pockets of silty material [1:57:06] that required us to put in a little extra cement [1:57:09] stabilization. [1:57:11] So we'll probably have a little cost [1:57:13] overrun in at least that line item on that contract. [1:57:17] But at this point, I don't think it's anything excessive. [1:57:22] Let's see, on our County Road 78 culvert up by Sechler Park [1:57:27] in Northfield, we ran into bedrock, [1:57:29] and that will cost a few extra dollars again [1:57:32] to have that excavated out, especially [1:57:34] for the knee walls or the toe walls of that culvert. [1:57:39] Again, I don't think it's excessive, [1:57:40] but probably some unplanned cost on that job. [1:57:48] Let's see, we did receive some additional funding [1:57:52] so we can advance the Richland Township Bridge [1:57:55] Hall Avenue Commissioner. [1:57:57] I'll be talking to them in November on that, [1:58:00] get that squared away for next year. [1:58:03] I will have next week, for your action or consideration, [1:58:07] a proposal to start a design for another Northfield Township [1:58:12] Bridge on Carroll Trail. [1:58:14] I got a proposal from a consultant, [1:58:16] so that'll be on the agenda for next week's action item, [1:58:20] as well as an update on County Road 11, our slope failure [1:58:24] due to the flooding last year. [1:58:26] We did open some bids. [1:58:28] The bids came in extremely high. [1:58:31] And we will be reassessing our options, [1:58:35] and I'll share more details with you next week on that. [1:58:38] It doesn't look like we'll get that project [1:58:40] done this year due to the costs we saw on that bid opening. [1:58:45] And then the other County Road 20 project [1:58:50] we're designing for 2027 from Trunk Highway 3 by Menard's [1:58:55] and Dundas to back up towards Faribault about three [1:58:58] miles, that project, in the design phase right now, [1:59:02] we're probably looking at a few challenges there. [1:59:05] We've talked to Great River Energy, which [1:59:07] is the transmission line through Rice County, or at least one [1:59:11] of them. [1:59:12] We're going to have to move one of their poles [1:59:14] so our alignment can best fit the contours and the other needs [1:59:20] of the project. [1:59:21] That may not be cheap. [1:59:24] We've just started the process with them to investigate [1:59:28] the cost to do that. [1:59:30] And then, in that same area, to make the road improvements [1:59:35] and design a safe road to serve the public [1:59:38] for the next 50 years, we're going to move the alignment. [1:59:42] Moving that alignment pushes us into some wetland [1:59:45] and some poor soils. [1:59:46] So we're just beginning to learn how much over-excavation. [1:59:50] We're going to get into that. [1:59:52] So when we talk about the cost of that project, [1:59:56] I think it's creeping upwards, but we'll know more [2:00:00] as we get further into design. [2:00:03] We do hope to have maybe some exhibits in a public open house [2:00:09] on that part of County Road 20, I think in October [2:00:12] now, maybe later in October. [2:00:16] And let's see, well, I think I'll stop there. [2:00:20] I could talk a little bit about parks [2:00:21] if you're interested in what we've been able to do in parks. [2:00:26] We've got a project going on at Shaker Park, [2:00:28] right west of town off of Trunk Highway 60 [2:00:30] for some ADA improvements through Deb and Public Health [2:00:35] funding some of that, and then the action [2:00:37] you took last week to free up some of those dollars [2:00:39] in our park dedication fee. [2:00:42] Randy Tim's crew is going to get in there, I think, next week [2:00:44] and start making those improvements. [2:00:47] We have some trailhead signs that were also funded [2:00:50] through Public Health and SHIP. [2:00:52] Those should be going up next week at three different parks [2:00:57] to give folks a better sense of the park amenities [2:01:01] and some of the history of the parks. [2:01:03] And Susie's been very helpful to help that, [2:01:06] along with other staff in Public Health [2:01:08] and in the assessor's office-- [2:01:10] good teamwork on that. [2:01:12] Our MnDOT crew, I think, should be placing signs along our Trunk [2:01:16] Highway system in Rice County that [2:01:18] identify those parks as well. [2:01:20] I need to follow up and see where they're at with that. [2:01:24] That was also funded through Public Health. [2:01:27] And then our regional park application, [2:01:31] we were able to go to the Defeat of Jesse James [2:01:35] Day on a Saturday morning. [2:01:36] We had an opportunity for a survey, [2:01:39] try to capture some folks' interest and knowledge [2:01:42] of Cannon River Wilderness Park, what amenities [2:01:46] they would like to see. [2:01:48] And some folks didn't even know where it was, but that's fine. [2:01:52] So we're building awareness for that. [2:01:53] That was a pretty good turnout on that day [2:01:55] until we got rained out, I think, about 2 o'clock. [2:01:59] Nice event up there. [2:02:02] With the attorney's office, we're working on the park rules. [2:02:06] So as part of our signage, we're going to display-- [2:02:10] the board will be acting on that in the future [2:02:13] here to develop some updated park rules, so that's underway. [2:02:18] And I think we're going to hopefully wrap that [2:02:20] up by the end of this year. [2:02:23] And then it's funding time, so I'll [2:02:26] be working with Sandy on a couple of different initiatives. [2:02:28] And then also, our routine highway funding opportunities [2:02:34] are starting to come to us, and there'll [2:02:37] be some discussion possibly on what projects [2:02:40] we would pursue funding on. [2:02:42] And we're talking about projects that are probably in years [2:02:44] 3, 4, and 5 in our program. [2:02:47] So I'll keep it short. [2:02:50] Any questions on that update? [2:02:54] MALE SPEAKER: Go ahead, Galen. [2:02:56] MALE SPEAKER: I don't think you mentioned County Road [2:02:58] 46, Hazelwood Avenue. [2:03:00] DENNIS LUEBBE: That project, I think, [2:03:02] has one lift of asphalt to go. [2:03:04] They finished that this week with the paving, [2:03:07] and then of course, pavement markings, signage, shouldering, [2:03:10] and I think some very minor ditch [2:03:14] grading has to be done yet. [2:03:16] Probably, I would say, middle of October, [2:03:20] maybe a week earlier than that. [2:03:24] County Road 48 right here in Faribault, it's [2:03:27] an interesting paving approach there [2:03:29] to deal with all of the different traffic lanes [2:03:31] and the different depths of paving. [2:03:33] That's moved along nicely, and the traffic [2:03:36] signal work was done. [2:03:38] And I think final paving is, again, [2:03:41] probably five to 10 days out. [2:03:44] That could wrap up. [2:03:45] Our County Road 27 project, I think all the construction [2:03:48] signs have been removed and so I think we're essentially done. [2:03:51] [2:03:54] Did mention County Road 50, and I did mention the culvert. [2:03:57] So it's been a good, heavy month of work. [2:04:03] MALE SPEAKER: Thank you. [2:04:04] MALE SPEAKER: How about the fuel port? [2:04:05] Is that going this year or is that going to get pushed in? [2:04:07] DENNIS LUEBBE: I talked to our consultant just yesterday. [2:04:10] We have not heard back from the low bid on their intention. [2:04:13] I do believe it is planned for next year, Commissioner. [2:04:16] I'm waiting for written confirmation on that [2:04:19] and I wanted to mention that today, [2:04:21] but I don't have it, so we should get that any day [2:04:24] with a schedule for work commencing next spring. [2:04:28] [2:04:34] MALE SPEAKER: Thank you, Dennis. [2:04:35] Is that it? [2:04:35] DENNIS LUEBBE: Yep, yep. [2:04:36] MALE SPEAKER: I appreciate it. [2:04:37] Thank you much. [2:04:39] Next, we have finance with Paula O'Connell. [2:04:43] SARAH: And actually, I'll be taking it. [2:04:46] MALE SPEAKER: Thank you, Sarah. [2:04:47] SARAH: Yep. [2:04:48] Our prelim budget-- and I'm going to stay here because I'm [2:04:50] going to have multiple screens that I [2:04:51] can pull up our information depending [2:04:53] on where the questions land. [2:04:56] Sometime later this morning as well, [2:04:58] the budget packet will be updated for a new budget [2:05:01] roll forward document. [2:05:03] There was a section in there that [2:05:05] had some data from outside agencies [2:05:07] that needed to be updated, so that will be taken care of [2:05:10] and re-uploaded. [2:05:11] I do have an accurate copy that I can share on the screen [2:05:14] when we get to that point. [2:05:15] So let me move into a presentation here. [2:05:19] [2:05:29] I just have to try to get it over to the other screen. [2:05:32] [2:05:39] I'll try this instead. [2:05:41] [2:05:50] There we are. [2:05:51] So I'm going to just go through the first couple of slides [2:05:53] we have every year with our mission, vision, [2:05:55] values, priorities, and the high level summary. [2:05:59] So for next week, this number is actually going [2:06:03] to go just a little bit lower. [2:06:06] We got some information at the end of last week. [2:06:08] As we talked about throughout the summer here [2:06:09] in legislative session, we're going [2:06:11] to be getting information on a rolling [2:06:13] basis beyond preliminary levy. [2:06:15] So towards the end of last week, we received some information. [2:06:18] I know when Angela Brewer was here talking about some [2:06:21] of their grants, we requested a one year extension. [2:06:24] We didn't know the results of that yet, [2:06:25] so we had that half time FTE on the levy instead of the grant, [2:06:29] because as far as we knew, that grant was going to be done. [2:06:31] We did get, towards the end of the week, notification [2:06:34] that one year, no cost extension was granted, [2:06:38] so that FTE will then shift from levy [2:06:41] to grant funding for next year. [2:06:43] That will take that down a little bit. [2:06:45] And then we had another position that we reviewed, [2:06:47] that instead of being full time, is going to be 0.75. [2:06:50] So that will move some things around too. [2:06:51] So for the purposes of today, these are the numbers. [2:06:55] But next week, when you see the resolution, [2:06:57] it will be a little bit lower than that. [2:07:00] So the 2026 budget recommendation [2:07:03] is $103,688,739 for all funds. [2:07:08] The 2025 budget was a little over 116 million. [2:07:12] You'll see this visually reflected later where you look [2:07:14] at in particular, like transportation projects can make [2:07:18] that swing, or when we have facility projects, things [2:07:21] like that, that are not our general ongoing operations, [2:07:25] where you'll see that number can shift what [2:07:30] would be pretty significantly. [2:07:32] So last year, we had more transportation projects. [2:07:35] This year, you'll see how transportation is a smaller [2:07:38] portion of the budget than it was [2:07:39] last year, just because again, you guys see the 10 year plan. [2:07:42] When we have larger, maybe federal or state funded projects [2:07:45] that's not levy, that can make that number move quite a bit. [2:07:48] So that's where we're sitting for this year. [2:07:50] Our total levy increase is $3,532,540. [2:07:56] If you think about all things equal, nothing changes. [2:08:01] What are the staff, because of health [2:08:03] care, bargaining agreement changes, things of that nature-- [2:08:07] our personnel costs, including all the taxes, [2:08:11] and we have a new tax this year with the paid family leave tax [2:08:15] that will be going into play. [2:08:17] That's $3,157,000, so that leaves [2:08:19] $374,870 for other things. [2:08:23] The staffing is not a one-for-one [2:08:25] because we do have some positions where [2:08:27] a portion of their funding might be reimbursed [2:08:31] through state or federal programs, [2:08:32] or it might be a grant funded position. [2:08:34] So again, that staffing number isn't a one-for-one, [2:08:37] but that's what that increase in payroll is year over year. [2:08:41] And next year, we actually have a slight overall decrease [2:08:44] in FTE, so there's not going to be [2:08:47] an increase in our FTE from last year to this year, [2:08:50] or this year to next year. [2:08:52] Our HRA levy increase is 0. [2:08:55] We were able to stay flat based on funding they [2:08:58] get from a variety of sources. [2:09:00] And then the county and HRA combined levy is 8.87%, [2:09:07] and then I'll have that breakdown a little more further. [2:09:09] So the total 2026 property tax levy request is $43,354,666, [2:09:17] but that will change for next week. [2:09:19] Again, that will be a little bit lower than that. [2:09:22] MALE SPEAKER: Sarah? [2:09:23] SARAH: Yeah? [2:09:24] MALE SPEAKER: Could you go back just for a moment? [2:09:26] Our top line, our budget is $103,688,000. [2:09:31] And then you got in parentheses, $116,538,000. [2:09:34] SARAH: Yeah, that was this year's. [2:09:36] So just so you could see what our budget was for this year [2:09:39] for expenditures compared to what we're [2:09:41] going to be spending next year. [2:09:42] MALE SPEAKER: OK. [2:09:43] SARAH: Yep. [2:09:43] MALE SPEAKER: Thank you. [2:09:44] [2:09:49] SARAH: And this is, again, kind of dialing down [2:09:51] a little bit, our levy by fund. [2:09:54] So you can see the changes for general fund, libraries, road [2:09:59] and bridge, human services, and compared [2:10:02] to what we levied in 2025. [2:10:08] So our total gross county levy is 7.6% increase. [2:10:12] And then you take into consideration [2:10:13] county program aid, which we're actually losing a bit. [2:10:17] And that impact, even though it's only a loss of $143,393, [2:10:23] it doesn't keep up with our cost of administering services. [2:10:26] So that's what makes that net levy net out to the 8.92. [2:10:30] So before the impact of county program aid, we're at 7.6, [2:10:35] then we go up to 8.92. [2:10:38] And we do have a slide that just talks about program aid, [2:10:43] but as a reminder for people's knowledge [2:10:46] here, we did have an infusion or the legislature [2:10:52] provided more money a few years back for additional program aid. [2:10:56] And that didn't change for this year, but what we get [2:10:59] is based on formula for how our county is either performing [2:11:03] or the demographics of our county compared [2:11:05] to other counties in the state. [2:11:06] So you have two parts to county program aid. [2:11:09] You've got county need aid and county [2:11:11] tax base equalization aid. [2:11:13] So for the county need aid, our share [2:11:15] is based on here's the money, here's [2:11:17] what the legislature appropriates [2:11:19] for each of those buckets. [2:11:21] And then part of it's distributed based on percentage [2:11:25] of our population that's 65 and older [2:11:27] compared to other counties with what their 65 [2:11:31] and older population is. [2:11:32] The next part of that is based on what portion of our county, [2:11:37] how many residents receive SNAP benefits. [2:11:39] And then the other part is based on state group A offenses, [2:11:43] like part I crime data. [2:11:45] So it's kind of that hard thing too, because you [2:11:49] don't want crime committed. [2:11:51] You want a good economy where we don't need some [2:11:53] of those social safety nets. [2:11:56] So as you improve in those areas, [2:11:58] your aid goes down because then it [2:12:00] seems like the economy of your county is doing better, [2:12:03] and same thing on the tax base equalization aid. [2:12:05] There were some changes to this maybe-- [2:12:08] I'm thinking 10 years ago, maybe a little longer, [2:12:10] because it talks about-- [2:12:12] it's based on your county tax base. [2:12:16] And so there was a period of time particularly, like, [2:12:19] I was working in Southwest Minnesota, where [2:12:22] ag land was rapidly rising. [2:12:24] You had over $10,000 an acre, sometimes [2:12:27] close to $15,000 an acre. [2:12:29] The prices in the Minnesota River Valley [2:12:30] were very significant. [2:12:31] So those counties that were small and having [2:12:34] these rapid rises of ag land values, [2:12:39] their county program aid was decreasing pretty significantly. [2:12:43] So they put in this little formula piece [2:12:47] that is the greater of 0.27% of the statewide appropriation [2:12:55] for the equalization aid, or 95% of your county's [2:12:57] TBA for the previous year. [2:12:59] So that reduced the instability and that fluctuation [2:13:02] of that portion of aid, because again, that [2:13:04] was pretty significant for some counties [2:13:07] that had those large swings in the ag values. [2:13:12] So that's where, again, if money doesn't get added to that pool, [2:13:18] some counties will see a continual decline, [2:13:20] while other counties will see a continual increase. [2:13:22] So it's more of a policy thing when we get to legislature. [2:13:26] [2:13:29] MALE SPEAKER: Excuse me, did you commissioners understand that? [2:13:33] SARAH: Sorry, it's complicated. [2:13:34] MALE SPEAKER: I mean, that was a lot to digest for me. [2:13:36] SARAH: I know. [2:13:37] I'll repeat it again during final, but that is just, [2:13:40] again, one of the complicated formulas that we deal with that [2:13:42] does have an impact on what our net levy looks like every year, [2:13:46] and it is a legislative point of discussion every year as well. [2:13:50] [2:13:53] So if we look at the county HRA only tax rate and levy history, [2:14:01] over the past 10 years or so, our tax rate [2:14:05] estimate for this coming year is 38.96%, our levy change, 8.87. [2:14:11] I'm going to pull up another document here just [2:14:14] to show you some more info. [2:14:16] Let me see here. [2:14:17] [2:14:20] I think it's on here. [2:14:21] [2:14:24] And Josh was here earlier. [2:14:26] He talked about the trends and what we're seeing. [2:14:28] So these numbers in the bottom are [2:14:31] very close to his presentation but not quite the same. [2:14:33] These are a point in time number that we get when we're [2:14:36] working on preparing stuff. [2:14:37] So when you look at our taxable market value, [2:14:42] our projection at the point in time we did this document was [2:14:45] about that $10,817,000,000 mark, which was very close to what [2:14:51] Josh had in his presentation. [2:14:53] And our net tax capacity, which is what he was describing [2:14:56] in that very complex, all the property classifications and all [2:14:59] those classes are assigned at a tax rate, [2:15:01] based on what the state tells us, [2:15:03] each piece of parcel can be taxed [2:15:06] at, our net tax capacity for the county is $111,267,925-- [2:15:13] again, an estimate at this point in time. [2:15:16] We have a little over $93 million in new construction, [2:15:21] so this isn't just values increasing [2:15:23] because of different market factors, [2:15:25] this is also new construction. [2:15:27] And that gives us our tax rate of 38.96%. [2:15:31] So basically, based on current tax capacity that the state [2:15:36] allows through their statutes and rules, [2:15:39] we're tapping into about 38% of that. [2:15:42] So we can, under their rules, tax $111 million. [2:15:47] We don't and are not going to. [2:15:51] So that's kind of what shows. [2:15:53] So we're looking at $43 million in property taxes. [2:15:57] Our ceiling is 111, if that kind of makes sense. [2:16:01] So our new estimated net tax capacity for new construction [2:16:06] is $838 million. [2:16:09] Our new construction tax revenue-- [2:16:11] so of this increase that we're asking for, we're estimating [2:16:16] that $326,000 of that, maybe 3/4 of a percent-- a little more-- [2:16:21] is going to be paid for by new construction [2:16:24] that we're experiencing. [2:16:26] So it's always good to see growth in our tax base. [2:16:30] That's what we're going for to help spread [2:16:32] that out a little bit more. [2:16:33] [2:16:36] This is the document that's in the attachment, [2:16:39] but the more current version where it goes through [2:16:43] and talks about each department within the fund. [2:16:46] So the total general fund is going up 9.27%. [2:16:51] Some areas, we're kind of phasing out [2:16:56] some one-time funding that we received [2:16:58] and easing that off because that money is just about done. [2:17:04] We had an increase in that payroll tax [2:17:08] for the paid family leave, some things like that. [2:17:11] [2:17:14] Let's see here-- extension, I'll talk about that one a bit [2:17:17] because that looks like a larger number, [2:17:18] and that number will come down a little bit. [2:17:20] But in the prior year-- so not this year in '24, [2:17:24] I think towards the end of '23 maybe, [2:17:26] a position was eliminated but it wasn't eliminated, [2:17:30] was only on pause. [2:17:32] But we took it off the levy and we [2:17:33] provided for funds for a facilitator [2:17:37] to determine what the needs were. [2:17:39] So we had a position, didn't feel like it was meeting [2:17:42] the needs we wanted to do. [2:17:43] We're reevaluating that, and so now we've [2:17:45] come up with some ideas so we can look at having the Extension [2:17:49] Committee review some job descriptions, come [2:17:51] to an agreement, and that was a 0.75 FTE. [2:17:54] So now for '26, we're anticipating that that 0.75 FTE [2:17:58] will be back in the budget when it's [2:18:00] been left unfilled for a year while they try to work [2:18:03] out the job descriptions. [2:18:06] Those positions are State of Minnesota, extension University [2:18:09] of Minnesota positions, so it's not like a job description [2:18:12] that we can just craft and change. [2:18:14] We have to work within what they have [2:18:16] and their union, their wages, their job descriptions. [2:18:19] So it's just a little bit different process to get [2:18:21] to where we want to get to. [2:18:22] But that'll be there, so that's why it looks like there's [2:18:24] a larger increase in extension, is to accommodate [2:18:27] for that position. [2:18:30] And if anything changes with that before final, [2:18:32] we'll make those changes. [2:18:33] [2:18:38] Again, we show we had these fund summaries on the other page. [2:18:43] Human Services. [2:18:45] So throughout this fall, we had departments [2:18:47] come in that were going to be seeing more of an impact [2:18:50] from legislative changes. [2:18:52] So, like, we had Social Services presented a couple of times [2:18:56] on some different areas. [2:18:58] Community Corrections was in because there's [2:19:00] a little bit larger swing in community corrections. [2:19:02] So they came and talked twice to you all about the things [2:19:05] impacting their budget and what the needs were. [2:19:08] We had the 901 Center and some other smaller [2:19:11] presentations on budgets, so you could get the detail in there. [2:19:15] And when we do final budget, we'll [2:19:16] link to all those online resources [2:19:18] so people can go back and review the specific department [2:19:21] presentations on that for more information as well. [2:19:24] But in here, you'll see areas where, again, we might have [2:19:28] a little bit higher swing because we have new things that [2:19:30] are going in there, whether it's competency [2:19:32] attainment like Megan discussed, or we have increased services. [2:19:36] What you don't see in particular in Human Services, [2:19:40] are things that changed in session this year, [2:19:43] whether it's state or federal. [2:19:44] But a lot of those have delayed implementation. [2:19:47] So some things are end of fourth quarter next year, October, [2:19:51] so we might have that in there. [2:19:52] Some things are 2027 implementation, [2:19:55] some things are 2028. [2:19:56] And so departmental staff and myself [2:19:59] have been attending any opportunity we can, [2:20:01] federal and state online meetings and webinars [2:20:05] that they're holding. [2:20:06] And the message has pretty much been the same. [2:20:08] Like, here's the change, here's maybe a broad sweep of what they [2:20:12] think an impact would be, but the analysis is not complete as [2:20:15] to what that means for us here. [2:20:17] And so that information hopefully [2:20:19] will continue to develop over towards the end of this year. [2:20:23] Some of it we won't be getting maybe till next year. [2:20:27] So that's why we talked significantly about impacts [2:20:31] of changes and we've only seen an increase of 7.462% [2:20:36] because a lot of those changes are not [2:20:38] implemented quite yet next year, but they [2:20:40] will be seen in future years. [2:20:44] Debt service. [2:20:44] I have a thing on debt service to show you guys, [2:20:47] because we usually talk about this [2:20:48] and this is good for thinking ahead. [2:20:51] So all these numbers are our debt service chart [2:20:57] that Paula and finance track. [2:21:00] So I'm going to highlight because I [2:21:01] know this is itty-bitty. [2:21:02] But what it shows is how we structured our debt. [2:21:05] So for '25, '26, '27, '28, our debt service number is flat, [2:21:11] so we won't need to increase pending [2:21:13] a decision made to do anything else with additional debt. [2:21:18] $4,513,000 is our debt service through 2028. [2:21:24] Then you'll see in 2029, some prior debt service issues [2:21:28] are going to start to drop off. [2:21:30] They're going to be paid. [2:21:31] So we'll see a decrease of almost $700,000 [2:21:35] in 2029 for debt service. [2:21:37] We'll see some little modifications [2:21:41] in the next several years, and then again, you [2:21:44] just see a continued drop off. [2:21:47] [2:21:50] Looks like 2039, we'll get about a million decrease. [2:21:54] But this is what our schedule looks like [2:21:56] and how our debt is structured. [2:21:57] We try to do it so it remains as flat as possible. [2:22:00] So even when you see some drop off, [2:22:02] it might increase in another area, [2:22:04] again, because we try to always structure [2:22:06] our debt in a way that keeps it flat [2:22:08] so we don't see those large swings. [2:22:12] MALE SPEAKER: Sarah, our debt levy [2:22:15] is mainly due to our new law enforcement center. [2:22:18] Is that a big portion of that? [2:22:19] SARAH: So, half? [2:22:21] What do you think, Paula, about half? [2:22:24] It's little, but you can see, we've got-- [2:22:28] let's see, that one comes off this year. [2:22:30] So we had a 2018 equipment certificate [2:22:32] that got paid off in '14. [2:22:34] The 2019 debt service for the GSB, so in 2019, [2:22:38] we had two issues because of the project and how we broke it up. [2:22:42] So those are on there. [2:22:44] Those are about-- let's see, between the two-- [2:22:50] about $700,000 for that payment that [2:22:54] goes up to a little over eight in the last [2:22:56] year of payment in 2033. [2:22:59] And then the jail, the 2022 jail bonds are at 2.9. [2:23:05] So of the 4.5, 2.9 right now is the jail bonds. [2:23:12] And then there was a 2016 crossover refunding. [2:23:16] So when you have other bonds that you might [2:23:19] refund and restructure at any point in time, [2:23:22] you got refunding bonds. [2:23:23] So that is done in '28. [2:23:24] [2:23:28] So again, in 2029, we'll see a decrease in our bond payment. [2:23:32] So the next couple of years, it'll be the same amount, [2:23:36] and that'll help, with the levy in that year, [2:23:39] offset that-- again, unless other decisions [2:23:41] are made in the meantime that might [2:23:42] change our debt service needs. [2:23:44] [2:23:50] Our capital projects fund, that's another one [2:23:52] I'd just like to highlight. [2:23:54] Last year, in order to get the levy where it was, [2:23:57] we removed our annual contribution [2:24:02] to the capital projects fund. [2:24:04] So those are things for facility needs. [2:24:06] When you have a more major structural capital [2:24:09] type project with facilities, we use that fund. [2:24:11] So in 2025, we used some of it and then [2:24:17] we did not contribute to it. [2:24:20] And then this year, we are doing it again. [2:24:22] So we're going to be using $83,000 [2:24:26] for projects that we have, and we're going to be levying 100. [2:24:32] Actually, we did levy for it last year. [2:24:34] One year, we didn't but anyhow, sorry about that. [2:24:37] We are going to be using 80-- so that's the use of fund balance, [2:24:40] is about $83,000 in projects that are more capital in nature [2:24:43] that we're going to be using from that fund, [2:24:45] and then we'll have that net of the 100 [2:24:48] that we're going to be levying. [2:24:51] You're going to be having some meetings coming up regarding [2:24:54] environmental services in the landfill, [2:24:56] some studies that's going to talk about rates and things [2:24:58] like that. [2:24:59] But that environmental services fund is a self-sustaining fund [2:25:02] at this point. [2:25:03] But again, you will be looking at studies, landfill needs, [2:25:06] changes in legislation that might impact [2:25:09] our expenses going forward. [2:25:10] Those presentations will be forthcoming. [2:25:13] [2:25:20] Oops, sorry. [2:25:20] MALE SPEAKER: Could you go back a page, Sarah? [2:25:23] MALE SPEAKER: Yes, go ahead. [2:25:24] MALE SPEAKER: Thank you. [2:25:25] The tax rate proposed for '26 is 38.9%. [2:25:29] What was it this last year, in '25 year? [2:25:33] SARAH: 37. [2:25:34] MALE SPEAKER: 37? [2:25:36] SARAH: Yep. [2:25:38] We've come down from, like, you see we were in the 40s. [2:25:42] I mean, it's kind of just bouncing back and forth here [2:25:44] depending on where we're at. [2:25:49] MALE SPEAKER: And how does this look compared [2:25:50] to surrounding counties? [2:25:52] SARAH: Yep, and I can get the most recent. [2:25:54] I don't have it on me, but we're typically in the lower [2:25:57] of the tax rates in the state. [2:26:00] But there is annually a report that comes out [2:26:03] that shows that information, so we're in the better [2:26:09] off of the tax rate counties. [2:26:10] We're not the lowest. [2:26:11] That's usually like a county to the north of us [2:26:14] in particular that stays towards the bottom. [2:26:16] [2:26:19] Yeah, no, we sit really nice, but there [2:26:20] are reports that come out annually [2:26:21] and I can get that information. [2:26:25] So part of our 2026 budget also includes the use [2:26:28] of fund balance and reserves. [2:26:30] So in most instances, it's from money that has been set aside [2:26:37] for special purposes, one time money [2:26:39] that we receive for special purposes, [2:26:42] departments that have fund balances for specific projects [2:26:45] like environmental services-- [2:26:47] again, one time state or federal funding. [2:26:50] So our projected based on our use of $2 million for [2:26:55] will still have the estimated fund [2:26:58] balances that are shown above. [2:27:01] So some things that we're using fund balances for [2:27:04] is, we had some money set aside when we [2:27:07] were going to go self-insured. [2:27:09] And so as part of our health insurance agreements [2:27:12] for the next three years, since we decided [2:27:14] not to go self-insured, we're spending [2:27:16] down that employer and employee portion of those funds. [2:27:22] So those were funds that have been sitting in our reserve that [2:27:24] have been dedicated for that purpose [2:27:27] that we're now going to be spending down because we don't [2:27:29] need to hold them anymore, because we're [2:27:31] not going to go self-insured. [2:27:32] So we're spending those down. [2:27:34] Same thing with some public safety funds or highway funds [2:27:38] or other, again, one time revenues [2:27:41] that we received that we are intending to spend down. [2:27:44] [2:27:47] But again, at the end of the year, [2:27:50] we should still have a healthy, appropriate fund balance. [2:27:53] [2:27:57] We discussed this the beginning of the month [2:28:01] here, our board agency, the outside appropriation requests [2:28:05] that you heard during August. [2:28:08] And so we have our 2025 board approved, [2:28:11] the 2026 requested, and the 2026 board recommends. [2:28:14] So after discussion, we've kept the outside agency requests [2:28:20] at their 2025 level and made adjustments for areas [2:28:24] with the two, with the Historical Society [2:28:26] and the Ag Society, where we pay for the insurance. [2:28:30] And those rates went up, and that's kind of what it is. [2:28:33] There's not an option there, and so those are [2:28:37] the only modifications to that. [2:28:39] So our level for outside agency funding [2:28:42] goes from $856,256 to $868,661. [2:28:47] And that change is just due to insurance changes, [2:28:49] but all other things remained the same. [2:28:52] [2:28:57] This, we covered in detail, but here [2:28:58] is the history of what our county program aid looked like. [2:29:01] So you can see where the state made that infusion of funds, [2:29:04] so we got a bump. [2:29:05] And then now we're going back down a little bit, [2:29:10] just based on our demographics of our county [2:29:12] compared to others. [2:29:13] [2:29:16] Adjustment to fees. [2:29:18] So when we go through and meet with departments on the budget, [2:29:20] we talk about what are the fees for service [2:29:23] that we have control over. [2:29:24] Are they appropriate? [2:29:25] Do they need to be changed? [2:29:27] In December, you all review the fee schedule and approve that. [2:29:31] So we made changes where we knew they were going to be made [2:29:33] and then we'll present that fee schedule for discussion [2:29:36] in detail in December. [2:29:40] Here are some of the different visual things you can see. [2:29:43] We are a service. [2:29:45] We provide services, so bulk of our expenditures by type [2:29:49] are personnel. [2:29:50] [2:29:53] And our revenue. [2:29:54] This is where you're going to see a little bit of flipping [2:29:57] from the prior year. [2:29:58] So for 2026, 42% of our budget is property taxes [2:30:03] and penalties and 37% intergovernmental. [2:30:06] So that's like our federal, state, [2:30:07] and other governmental revenues we get in. [2:30:11] Last year, it was flipped where we had I think 34% of our budget [2:30:18] was funded by property taxes and more was [2:30:20] funded by intergovernmental. [2:30:22] Some of it is due to decreasing, but also, we [2:30:27] had that large transportation project too. [2:30:31] So that kind of skews us more than normal. [2:30:34] Because if we don't have that project, [2:30:37] that doesn't count as funding. [2:30:38] So again, take it a little bit with a grain of salt [2:30:42] that those things can make these changes in something. [2:30:46] One project could make those numbers go back and forth. [2:30:48] [2:30:51] Our expenditures by function. [2:30:53] Again, this is where you can visually [2:30:54] see that last year, road and bridge was higher [2:30:58] than public safety and social services, [2:31:01] again, because of the road program for that year. [2:31:03] This year, the road program looks different. [2:31:05] And so you'll see human services as being 25% of our expenditure [2:31:11] by function, public safety at 20, [2:31:13] and then road and bridge at 17, and general government at 14. [2:31:18] So again, depending on what some of our programming [2:31:21] is for any given year, what portion of the budget [2:31:24] is larger changes from time to time. [2:31:26] [2:31:30] Joy was in and presented on her budget [2:31:33] during one of her meetings earlier this month. [2:31:37] So this just, again, talks about what our levy use is, [2:31:40] but she went into detail with you guys on her budget. [2:31:44] [2:31:47] And special purpose funding for 2026 [2:31:50] that we're still administering, the opioid litigation funding. [2:31:54] We approved an MOA a little earlier-- [2:31:58] I think it was actually still this month-- [2:32:01] for some services, with most to be able to continue [2:32:04] that program, to provide some gap funding while they reassess [2:32:09] opportunities for other state or federal sources [2:32:11] to keep that going. [2:32:12] The spending plan will be discussed in full in December. [2:32:15] We have some community engagement activities [2:32:17] between now and then, but just know that the opioid litigation [2:32:20] funding, that number might change [2:32:22] within the detail of the budget, but that's not Levy funds. [2:32:26] There are eligible certain uses that we use and we discuss those [2:32:29] with community members, and then the spending plan [2:32:33] is presented in December when we have our final levy meeting. [2:32:38] The local homeless prevention aid for fiscal year '25, [2:32:43] again, they're kind of rolling years. [2:32:44] So part of it's this year, part of it's next year, [2:32:46] and same thing in '27. [2:32:48] Goes up a little bit for fiscal year '26, [2:32:51] so this is one that the funding is very specific to support [2:32:54] new or existing family homeless prevention [2:32:56] and assistance projects or programs. [2:32:59] We work with other agencies to administer this funding. [2:33:04] It's targeted towards families with children. [2:33:06] So annually, we report on this. [2:33:08] I usually give an update in December about some impact. [2:33:11] Again, it's to stabilize households with children that [2:33:16] are school age children in the homes that are either paying [2:33:18] more than 50% of their income for rent, lacking [2:33:21] fixed, regular or nighttime residence, [2:33:23] living in overcrowded conditions, [2:33:25] or facing eviction and things like that to help stabilize [2:33:28] families and provide connects with organizations [2:33:31] to provide wraparound services. [2:33:32] So this has been a pretty successful program. [2:33:36] And this was a legislative appropriation [2:33:39] that's pretty specific. [2:33:40] We also are in our final years of the statewide [2:33:43] affordable housing aid. [2:33:44] So these are for the purposes of construction acquisition, things [2:33:48] that work towards providing and increasing affordable housing [2:33:52] opportunities in the county. [2:33:54] We've used our money so far to support the engineering [2:33:56] and design on Twin Oaks. [2:33:58] In the last year, we'll be able to look at other opportunities [2:34:00] for how we use that affordable housing aid in the community [2:34:04] for eligible activities. [2:34:05] [2:34:08] Looking at when we're going to have our public hearing [2:34:11] on the proposed budget will be Thursday, [2:34:13] December 11 at 6:00 PM. [2:34:16] So kind of just a note, we will not have a regular board [2:34:18] meeting that week because that aligns [2:34:20] with our annual conference. [2:34:21] But then that Thursday, we'll come together that night [2:34:24] for a public hearing. [2:34:25] [2:34:29] So if you have any questions-- [2:34:34] MALE SPEAKER: I have a question. [2:34:35] MALE SPEAKER: Yes, go ahead. [2:34:36] MALE SPEAKER: Do we have built-in [2:34:37] for a downtown maintenance building here? [2:34:40] SARAH: No. [2:34:42] So I have some meetings tomorrow to talk [2:34:47] about some different things with other parties. [2:34:51] I know that's very vague. [2:34:53] We have some opportunities to talk about [2:34:55] that I'll bring forward to you. [2:34:56] This does not include a building there. [2:34:58] That will be part of an ongoing discussion [2:35:00] of how we meet those needs, but that is not in this budget. [2:35:04] [2:35:08] MALE SPEAKER: Any other questions, commissioners? [2:35:10] MALE SPEAKER: Uh, yeah. [2:35:12] SARAH: I know, it's a lot of information. [2:35:14] And we'll keep working this through to the end of the year [2:35:16] as we get more information, more clarity on changes. [2:35:19] The prelim you set next week is the max. [2:35:22] We can't go lower. [2:35:24] Besides this grant that we heard back from, unless some funding [2:35:29] opportunities return to us or loosen up a bit, [2:35:32] I'm not going to say that I anticipate [2:35:35] that it's going to get much lower than what it is. [2:35:37] If anything, we're going to look a little worse [2:35:39] and we'll have to accommodate in one area or another. [2:35:42] But we can't go higher than what you set next week. [2:35:44] [2:35:47] MALE SPEAKER: Well, I appreciate the pie charts. [2:35:50] I'm a visual guy and I can relate to that quite well. [2:35:57] Yeah. [2:35:58] MALE SPEAKER: I do have a question. [2:35:59] MALE SPEAKER: Go ahead. [2:36:00] MALE SPEAKER: What percent of this 8.9% or 8.8 levy [2:36:06] is personnel, between health insurance? [2:36:11] SARAH: Yep, one moment here. [2:36:12] I'll get that for you. [2:36:13] [2:36:17] And some of that's a little-- [2:36:19] again, I talked about it's not a one-for-one on the levy [2:36:21] because of all of that. [2:36:22] But I can show you of our budget, so of the $106 million, [2:36:30] 54% of that is personnel services. [2:36:33] It's staff. [2:36:34] So how that kind of proportionately shakes out just [2:36:37] depends on what percentage of a position [2:36:39] might be funded by another source-- grant, [2:36:43] state, federal reimbursement. [2:36:44] So it's easier to say of our budget, [2:36:48] here's what personnel expenses are. [2:36:50] I don't know, Paula, if you've got another-- [2:36:52] [2:36:56] FEMALE SPEAKER: It's complicated, because I can say, [2:36:58] let's say that we have funding sources in there for that, [2:37:01] and that we do support that budget. [2:37:02] [2:37:05] But we can tell you what the total is. [2:37:07] We can we tell you what the comparison is from last year [2:37:11] to this year to break it down by types of benefits and overtime, [2:37:16] and things like that. [2:37:19] SARAH: Yep, and our personnel again increased a little [2:37:21] over 3 million, but that doesn't one-for-one [2:37:24] go on our levy increase, just because some of those positions [2:37:27] are funded differently. [2:37:30] MALE SPEAKER: I understand it's a hard number to hit. [2:37:32] SARAH: Yeah. [2:37:33] So if we look at last year, we were down, around 52, [2:37:37] high $52 million for personnel. [2:37:40] That includes health care, taxes, all those things. [2:37:43] [2:37:48] MALE SPEAKER: So Sarah, basically, [2:37:50] just so people understand, I think transparency is the best [2:37:54] thing we can be right now as far as what we're up against [2:37:58] and what we're doing. [2:37:58] [2:38:02] Oh, gosh. [2:38:02] I lost my train of thought. [2:38:06] Well, one thing-- and Susie or Sarah, [2:38:09] how available is the public to these pie charts, [2:38:12] so they can see what we're doing and what we're up against? [2:38:16] SARAH: Yeah, so once we're done with this presentation, [2:38:17] we can upload it in the packet so people can see it. [2:38:20] MALE SPEAKER: So that would be out on our website? [2:38:23] SARAH: Yep. [2:38:23] MALE SPEAKER: Yeah, OK. [2:38:25] I think that's important. [2:38:27] Yeah, I don't know. [2:38:30] Did anybody else have anything? [2:38:32] SARAH: I think Commissioner Peter stopped in a couple times [2:38:36] for some of our department meetings [2:38:38] to see our process behind the scenes and the work [2:38:41] that we put in ahead of bringing it to you all. [2:38:44] So I think this year, I'm very thankful to the departments [2:38:46] for coming in, understanding the situation. [2:38:49] We had a much lower initial request [2:38:52] than we have in other years, because everyone [2:38:54] knew this is not the year to ask for anything new. [2:38:56] We need to figure out how to sustain [2:38:58] or how to make changes to accommodate for any cuts, which [2:39:01] was a good thing but it also made it a lot harder [2:39:03] to find those areas where we could get it down from that [2:39:07] 15% down to something under 10. [2:39:09] It made the work a little harder. [2:39:11] And social services in particular put a lot of work [2:39:13] into evaluating things. [2:39:15] One area I should have highlighted when we're talking [2:39:17] about-- and I didn't. [2:39:18] Let me pull it up here real quick again-- [2:39:21] that kind of helped us get that last little mile here, [2:39:25] let me see if it's on. [2:39:28] And it might not be. [2:39:29] It's not going to be in this chart, I don't think. [2:39:31] [2:39:34] Oh, maybe. [2:39:35] So this thing called contingency fund. [2:39:37] What it is, is anticipated wage savings. [2:39:41] And that's the number we work with a little bit at the end [2:39:43] to try to get us down. [2:39:45] So we look at what's our usual savings in a given [2:39:50] year because of vacancies and time to fill, [2:39:52] and things like that. [2:39:53] And then in particular, like in social services, [2:39:55] we looked at with some of the changes that are coming, [2:39:59] do we have some positions that are going to have a leg [2:40:01] and being filled? [2:40:03] Because we're going to pivot what service [2:40:05] we're needing to provide based on what we're mandated to do. [2:40:09] And so we changed that number from that $1,044,000 [2:40:14] that we have as an offset of wage savings, [2:40:16] to $1,283,000 based on--