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few things we have to do to get started

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and then we'll call you forward please.

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>> Okay. Um call the meeting to order at 6

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o' uh first item will be a roll call

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» all right. Well, tonight we're having an

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invocation by Father Dominic. And

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Father, would you come forward to the

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podium and we'll all stand for the

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invocation and after that we'll do the

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pledge of allegiance.

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In the name of the Father and of the Son

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and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Heavenly

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Father, we come before you today with

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grateful hearts asking you to bless our

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city council and all those who serve our

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community. Thank you for giving them the

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responsibility and opportunity to lead,

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make decisions and work for the common

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good. Lord, grant our council members

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wisdom to make good decisions, courage

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to do what is right, patience when

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facing difficult challenges, and

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compassion for every person they

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represent. Help them listen carefully to

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the needs of our families, children,

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seniors, businesses, and those who are

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struggling. Guide them to work together

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with respect, honesty, fairness, and

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unity, putting our communities

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well-being above personal interests. May

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their decisions promote peace, safety,

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justice, and opportunities for all. May

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the Holy Spirit guide our leaders. May

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Christ be at the center of the service

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and may God bless and protect our city

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and all who call it home. Protect our

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city and all who call it home. In the

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name of the Father and of the Son and of

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the Holy Spirit. Amen.

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>> Thank you, Father. Thank you.

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>> Ready. Salute. I pledge allegiance to

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the flag of the United States of America

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and to the republic for which it stands.

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One nation under God, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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thank you very much uh Miss Kintanar for

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bringing the father tonight.

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Okay. And um so the first item uh now

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would be the approval of the agenda. Do

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we have a motion?

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I'll move for approval.

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>> Motion by Gomez, second

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calendar which is only one item. Does

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anybody wish to pull it?

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» Uh can we pull it Mayor Paul? I do have

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>> Okay. So, we're gonna pull item uh for

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the Veterans Park splash pad

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rehabilitation and startup. And I don't

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know if we we do have a staff report

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that's been written up

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you know I I know I read through it and the part that I that what I

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understand is this is like the first

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stage and what may be additional work

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that needs to be done. Uh I I understand

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that it's been I guess 14 years but it

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might have been more than that that that

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was first put in that they said that be

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it's been about 14 years since they u

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really had totally had the maintenance

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that would you be considered complete

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and that this is the first uh in this

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first phase here is to uh correct those

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items that are above ground. They're not

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sure what's below ground. they have to

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take care of these things first and then

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recommending that um you know we there

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be a weekly maintenance

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uh and that would be a separate contract

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and then if there's underground work

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that would be a separate contract but

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» oh and well first of all before well I'd

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news, but I've been waiting a month for

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a record request

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and never got it. I turned it to your

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clerk because Miss Gonzalez over there

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at the police department don't know how

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what she's doing. She sent me another

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place to go put in a public record.

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give you guys a couple of days to fix it

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because once I do a public record

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request, it's a litigation hold on what

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I want. and a disability altered or

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hidden from me as a

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and so I'd rather not involve that

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sheriff. If not, I'm going to be calling

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an intent to sue myself.

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>> Okay, Mr. Limy, by the way, we should

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not mention any city employees by name.

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not refrain from that

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the attorney has told me that that's

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what the the law says. But that said, uh

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things that go to our attorney before

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they can be released. And um

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records. If you don't have an attorney,

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that's your problem. You need to get

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something going. It's clear you have 10

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days. I was never notified of any

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extension. And what she did already

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violated

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the Open Records Act already.

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information to the attorney general and

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see what they want to do. But, uh, I'd

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like to get this done in house, but I'm

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not going to keep playing the game with

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you guys. There's been several records

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>> and there's three more coming up real

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fast close to the 10 day.

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what I would would ask, all of these

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have been submitted to to Michelle.

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resigned, just so you know that. Uh but

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he he is willing to continue working

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until we find a replacement. And so that

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doesn't mean that he's not working on

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things. So,

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>> How do you get someone that never voted

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in for the council of the vice mayor?

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>> He was never voted in. He should be a

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temporary

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fill in, not to be advanced. He

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advancing when the people didn't want

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him in here. They didn't vote for him.

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you know, we can choose

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who between us who the council members

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are. This gentleman has been voted in in

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the past, but

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>> voted not voted for. Okay. We'll just do

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a a recall on the whole city council.

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about that.

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>> Thank you for your comments. Anybody

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else wish to speak on public comments?

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public comments there and getting in the

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wrong order. But back to the the

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Veterans Parks flash pad. Um

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we do not have our acting public works

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director here tonight, Troy Ever. Um

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there was anyone else that wanted to

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>> Well, I might have missed that. Does

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anybody else wish to come on public

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comments?

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>> Is there going to be more discussion on

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the park flashback?

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>> I messed up. I got that out out of order

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and then I didn't make sure that

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everybody had a chance to speak. I

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apologize.

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>> Oh, perfect. U I I just My name is Dorio

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Gutier. I uh live at 500 North Current,

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but I um I haven't received a call about

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the incident with my neighbor um at 522

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North Kern and um I really when I called

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Brenda to come out um she um said that

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she would go out later, she never went

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out, but I really wanted to see if it

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didn't have to be her, it could be

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anybody just to come out and see what

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the neighbor actually did in that in the

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um the the the water cement block where

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you where it's um cemented. Um there's a

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lid to open it. I just wanted to see if

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someone can inspect what they actually

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did there. And and um I already have um

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he's already been violated for the the

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dumping of toxic water, but I believe

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that's what he's continually trying to

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do. Divert the water somewhere else or

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something. And I uh right now actually

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before I um came over here I I double

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checked that area where there was the illegal dumpings and there's water

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still leeching out from there. All of

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his he uses white rocks of some sort to

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like cover up or to make it look nice

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and they're all falling through the

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ground. He's trying to reme remedy it by putting

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like bathroom like a really thin

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bathroom uh like a wallpaper or

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something. It's like a pretty pretty

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hard but they're just using all kinds of

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junk. The whole fence is all damaged.

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at it. And Brendo is a person that you

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referred to.

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» I'm kind of c can can somebody get back

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to him then what that process is?

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» Is there a timeline that he can be

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given? Well, we were allowed the first

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violation which is two week a citation

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two weeks and third and second third the

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second and third each is two weeks. So

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accumulate that up.

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just going to file a lawsuit. Um a civil

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lawsuit against him, but I have a lot of

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video to to and even previously the um

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Jose Maro, he he's the one that kind of

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helped and he took pictures of his own

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with the city. So, there's already

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documents um of the incident previously

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with the city already, but I just wanted

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to see it

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>> just like a cease desist or something. I

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I'm just not I'm kind of to that point

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where I'm just there. No, they're not

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supposed to be a washer back there, but

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they just continue washing their clothes

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and dumping that water from the washer

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>> Okay, sir. Well, okay. I I understand

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what you're saying and I know we're

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going through whatever processes we can

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and then I know that if you want to do

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something legal with your neighbor

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that's your right to do so but

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>> we're following at least the steps that

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>> I'm sorry that is not happening quicker.

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>> Yeah. It's fine. I just would was

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expecting a call or at least someone to

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come out to to check with me and to see

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what what what that situation was about.

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And so I haven't been able to speak to

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anybody ever since that time. And they kind of when people do that,

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nothing happens to them. They continue

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to do it over and over until they until

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they someone stops and

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>> Okay. Okay.

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>> That's something.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Does anybody else wish to come up for

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public comment?

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» Not seeing anyone. Okay. Now, we're

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going to go to the item that was pulled

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from consent calendar, which is the

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Veterans Park splash pad. And um

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we don't actually have staff here to

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present on it tonight other than we've

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read this, but if there's we should have

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a discussion and then um see what people

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from the public have to say and then see

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if we want to make a decision on this.

295
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Mr. Tro discuss it at all. There's

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nobody here to talk about it.

297
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>> I don't see anyone here without having a

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city manager, without having our public

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first person. It hasn't gone to

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engineering.

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» Why is it here?

302
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>> Well, if uh after reading it, if we felt

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comfortable with it, we wanted to

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approve it either on consent or now that

305
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it's off of consent, we could.

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I know that it's been down for a while

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and I know it's the hottest part of the

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year and even now if it's going to get

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worked on it's not going to it's not

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going to get taken care of while it's

311
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still still really hot unfortunately.

312
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>> So Mayor Par, are we discussing it right

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now then or are we bringing it back

314
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because there's a couple of questions I

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do?

316
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>> We're we're bringing it up right now. So

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>> when does it the splash pad officially

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close?

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>> Is it October I think?

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Yeah.

321
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>> So, in two months.

322
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>> Um,

323
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>> and

324
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how was this budgeted before like all

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these,

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you know, all this stuff? How was it

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budgeted? Because it it was done at one

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point, right?

329
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>> When you say it was done,

330
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>> yeah, all this work, is it work that

331
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needs to get done on it? that according

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to this contractor who's you know as I

333
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understand familiar with splash pads

334
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this is their recommendation the work of

335
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what they would charge to do it which

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>> okay

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>> the

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>> so when it was built there was never

339
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money budgeted for these items right

340
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here

341
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>> well when it was built roughly 20 years

342
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ago I think um

343
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>> you know I I couldn't answer you whether

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what was budgeted every year it probably

345
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you know, they every

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I'm making an assumption that staff

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worked on it. They they were trained on

348
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how to take care of it. A lot of those

349
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staff have since left and equipment has

350
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um worn out and it's gotten to the point

351
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where the recommendation isn't is to not

352
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use it until everything is corrected.

353
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>> So, there's two months left.

354
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Can we ask

355
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Blaze and Associates for a grant for

356
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this? Uh because I think this is a

357
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perfect item. It's on a park.

358
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Um

359
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I don't see it as difficult to try to

360
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chase some money for this since it's two

361
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months away and

362
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you know look for a grant that's this

363
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amount.

364
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>> It's just two months away.

365
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>> Yeah.

366
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And then again, if this is the

367
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agreement,

368
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um, is this a one-time offer or is it

369
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ongoing? I don't see a start or end

370
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date.

371
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>> Yeah, this is just for the first phase.

372
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And honestly, if we were going to not

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try to do something right away, it

374
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probably makes sense to to uh get some

375
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other proposals um and um

376
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>> get it done over the winter and and make

377
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sure it's done right.

378
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>> That was my question. Is this are there

379
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other bids or is this the only bid?

380
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>> This is the only

381
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>> we were supposed to agree on today with

382
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no other bid.

383
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>> Correct. And and the again the

384
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assumption was to try to get things done

385
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as soon as possible. But again, it's

386
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again here we are almost September.

387
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>> So there's no point in rushing it since

388
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we're going to close in October. So

389
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yeah,

390
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>> I agree. definitely look for a grant

391
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>> and we're going to ask the public here,

392
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but just want to hear how what other

393
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council members thoughts are before we

394
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get public input.

395
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>> Yeah. I know normally for parks um when

396
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we build a park, we don't normally set

397
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aside money for maintenance. It's like

398
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um a fire truck or a police vehicle um

399
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or anything out of public works. Um,

400
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there's a there's a budget for

401
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maintenance and we pull it out of there.

402
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Uh, the $9,000 amount, I believe 10,000

403
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is when we have to go to bid or

404
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something above that. So, it's well

405
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within the the allotted the allotted

406
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amount for us to make a decision on it.

407
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Um, I don't I don't think it needs to

408
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wait two two months

409
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>> or two weeks. Um,

410
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and then as far as trying to find a

411
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grant, grants don't cover maintenance.

412
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Grants will cover improvements if that's

413
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what we're looking for. And grants maybe

414
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will cover a new uh splash pad, but not

415
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maintenance.

416
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>> That's a great idea, Greg. We should get

417
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a new splash pad for the kids. upgrade.

418
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>> Maybe after we finish the maintenance on

419
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this, we could have that discussion, but

420
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I think we need to take care of what we

421
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have right now.

422
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>> So, like you were saying, there's no

423
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extra. I believe there should be at

424
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least three bids.

425
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Anything in the amount of 5,000 or more.

426
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Um,

427
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it's 2 months away and let's talk to

428
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Blaze. That's what we're paying them

429
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for.

430
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>> Oh, Danny, you got any thoughts?

431
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» I would like to get a fix if possible

432
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before the season ended, but

433
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I wish there was a temporary fix we

434
00:19:17,679 --> 00:19:19,679
could do right now, but I wouldn't mind

435
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seeing a new bad phantom in the future.

436
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,600
I think we should focus on the one we

437
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have right now, though.

438
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,960
Okay. Well, at this point, I'd like to

439
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turn over to the public and if there's

440
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,200
anybody wishes to speak on this item,

441
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uh, please come forward.

442
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,120
» If you have a technician working at the

443
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city, no one worked on it. I got it from

444
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an inside source. That was never a test

445
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theft.

446
00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:46,640
>> They didn't do any upkeep on that

447
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machine. And in order to do it right,

448
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,280
you need at least three bids. You can't

449
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,760
just go out and grab a bid and okay and

450
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,000
take it. Cities are obligated to get

451
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three bid and do the lowest bid.

452
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So, and no, there's no upkeep on that

453
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machine. I got it from a reliable source

454
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and I seen it.

455
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Unless you're a technician, no one did

456
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anything to it but maybe change filters

457
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and stuff like that. That machine was

458
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neglected.

459
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There's there's no one here that wants

460
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,679
to take responsibility for anything in

461
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this town.

462
00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:27,280
>> They want to hear people and say, "Okay,

463
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that's what they said. That's what I'm

464
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going to believe." Instead of looking

465
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for themselves. I went through that

466
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myself.

467
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So, you need to get it together and do

468
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it the right way. You're supposed to get

469
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three bids and then take the least, not

470
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just go out and get a bid out. We're

471
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going to spend the people's money

472
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because we don't want to do the

473
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footwork.

474
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Okay. Thank you, sir. Does anybody else

475
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wish to speak on this subject?

476
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» Good afternoon, Alice Lopez, 44 North

477
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Matthews. Um, I understand that the

478
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splash pad is something really important

479
00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:09,120
for you, the young children, and it's so

480
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hot out there. Uh, but at this point,

481
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you have a couple months left. I think

482
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you really need to take the time and get

483
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city matters in order, have all your

484
00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:21,440
staff present because uh even if you

485
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,080
want to go out and look for a grant,

486
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there's not you don't have enough people

487
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to do that. And then when you get out

488
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there, you get somebody get these

489
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estimates or whatever uh to repair that.

490
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Maybe also look into adding some

491
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additional things. One of the things

492
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that I had suggested at one time is to

493
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put a shower uh maybe alongside the

494
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bathroom. So that way if they need to

495
00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:48,480
run you wash certain things off because

496
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,200
we know what's happening out there with

497
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,919
the unhoused, they're using that as a

498
00:21:53,919 --> 00:21:56,640
shower. So if you put the shower that

499
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runs about the same time that the splash

500
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pad does, you just have the water on

501
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,840
during those times. Everybody can rinse

502
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,720
off the unnecessary things before they

503
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,640
get on the splash pad. I know that the

504
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,120
splash pad was just repainted a year

505
00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:14,400
ago, two years ago, and it looks very

506
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,960
nice, but with all the additional stuff

507
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,360
going into the system, that's why it was

508
00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:23,760
constantly down. So, um, unfortunately

509
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,960
for the younger children, um, I wish

510
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,720
that there was a better answer, but at

511
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,039
this point, I don't think, uh, the

512
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city's able to do that kind of thing

513
00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:33,520
right now.

514
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,000
>> Thank you.

515
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,679
>> Anybody else wish to speak on the

516
00:22:37,679 --> 00:22:39,520
subject?

517
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,720
Okay, bringing it back to council

518
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,960
and um

519
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,200
you know I I I guess one question I as

520
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,960
and I don't know if anybody in the city

521
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,440
staff has heard like complaints about

522
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,400
how long it's been down or

523
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anything.

524
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,080
>> We have gotten calls to be open

525
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,919
a few people.

526
00:23:03,919 --> 00:23:05,440
>> Yeah.

527
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,240
uh you know I have to say that that even

528
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,640
if we hired this company they're they're

529
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,320
not guaranteeing that it's going to be

530
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,240
operational even when they're done with

531
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,280
this first phase and since we are

532
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,919
getting closer to October

533
00:23:19,919 --> 00:23:23,840
um maybe it does make sense to

534
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,799
u have it looked into some more and uh

535
00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:28,640
if we could get a grant that would be

536
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,600
great um I know Blazen Associates can

537
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,000
always check on those things Um and and

538
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,080
this is something that possibly we may

539
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,159
want to get our city engineer to take a

540
00:23:40,159 --> 00:23:43,840
look at also. And um and you know maybe

541
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,600
it could if if we're going to go the

542
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,760
efforts to to do that maybe we could

543
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,159
look at upgrading it some including a

544
00:23:50,159 --> 00:23:53,760
shower or anything else.

545
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,159
>> So um

546
00:23:56,159 --> 00:23:58,880
yes it mentions the chlorine storage

547
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,600
tank in here. Do we know what and what

548
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,799
kind of shape it's in?

549
00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:06,400
We don't have anyone here that could

550
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,159
answer that question, but we can get an

551
00:24:08,159 --> 00:24:09,039
answer. Yeah.

552
00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:10,559
>> Yeah. I think we should look at that.

553
00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:12,400
Um, and maybe that'll help us with the

554
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,640
timing. You know, if it's compromised in

555
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,080
any way, I mean, we really should move

556
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,046
forward with some kind of work on it.

557
00:24:18,046 --> 00:24:18,640
[clears throat]

558
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,159
>> Well, and and if it has a problem where

559
00:24:22,159 --> 00:24:25,120
there's a potential for a leak, uh, we

560
00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:26,880
better empty it.

561
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,679
>> Yeah. Or make sure it's well, if there's

562
00:24:29,679 --> 00:24:30,880
we need to empty it if there's a

563
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,039
potential leak. So if that's something

564
00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:35,600
we can pass on to staff with public

565
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,400
works to check in to just make sure

566
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,919
everything's

567
00:24:39,919 --> 00:24:42,960
there will not be a hazard and I know

568
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,200
our fire department knows all about

569
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,760
those kind of things too.

570
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,240
>> Thank you. Okay. Thank you.

571
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,360
So, is this something we want to uh uh

572
00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:55,279
basically

573
00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:57,279
make a recommendation to staff that they

574
00:24:57,279 --> 00:24:58,640
bring back where they look at these

575
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,640
other options and then bring it back as

576
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,360
a future agenda item and have it ready

577
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:07,840
for when summer starts next year, having

578
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:13,269
it something operational by then?

579
00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:15,520
>> Yeah.

580
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,760
>> Okay. So, at this point, would we say

581
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,430
we're tableabling it?

582
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,039
table with get everything in order. Get

583
00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:25,919
your bids. Get

584
00:25:25,919 --> 00:25:26,559
>> Yeah.

585
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:29,120
>> Have Jason look into can upgrade that

586
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:32,159
for fifths and u

587
00:25:32,159 --> 00:25:34,320
see what kind of grants they can get.

588
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,159
>> Okay. Do we have a is that a motion to

589
00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:38,960
table with those uh

590
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,480
>> items included?

591
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,039
>> Yes.

592
00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:45,360
>> So Tina, that's that's your motion.

593
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:46,080
>> I second it.

594
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,400
>> And second by Valdeinos. Does that

595
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,960
include in the safety checks and making

596
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,480
sure that we empty the tank and if

597
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,679
there's part nothing

598
00:25:55,679 --> 00:25:56,159
>> um

599
00:25:56,159 --> 00:25:57,279
>> worked at that.

600
00:25:57,279 --> 00:25:59,760
>> Yeah, it includes that. Okay, but we got

601
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,200
that. It's going to happen anyway.

602
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,799
Whether it wasn't a motion, but yes, it

603
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:05,200
includes included the motion and second

604
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,279
agrees to that. Okay.

605
00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:10,000
>> I

606
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,549
>> Yes.

607
00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:16,000
sir.

608
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,760
what she said about the housing using

609
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,440
the water

610
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,430
you know filter

611
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,000
going on maybe

612
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:31,360
shut off after so

613
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,679
you know it

614
00:26:33,679 --> 00:26:35,279
is

615
00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:38,720
afterwards I was thinking

616
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,559
>> okay well that's something that be a

617
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:43,120
separate item sir so I don't yeah it's

618
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:45,120
not not on the agenda Okay.

619
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:54,950
>> Yeah.

620
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,039
» That's a good idea to consider when we

621
00:26:57,039 --> 00:26:58,400
bring it back.

622
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,120
>> Okay. Okay.

623
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,400
>> All right. Uh Okay. Next item are action

624
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,400
items and the first one is discussion

625
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,360
regarding the interim city manager. and

626
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:14,159
we interviewed two candidates on um

627
00:27:14,159 --> 00:27:16,400
Friday evening

628
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,799
and uh

629
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:23,039
the two candidates names

630
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:27,510
um

631
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,618
» and what was I know Kevin Northcraft was

632
00:27:30,618 --> 00:27:31,840
[snorts]

633
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,559
one of the candidates and Bossberg Mr.

634
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:38,240
Bossburg was the second one. And so, uh,

635
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,080
I know staff has passed out, uh, their

636
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,400
where they reached out for references

637
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,159
and and checked out. I know the council

638
00:27:46,159 --> 00:27:47,840
has had a chance. I don't know if you've

639
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,760
all had a chance to look at that.

640
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,919
>> Got that a little bit before the meeting

641
00:27:51,919 --> 00:27:53,440
started.

642
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,919
Um,

643
00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:58,000
but with that, I would I would start

644
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,399
with uh asking council members if they

645
00:28:00,399 --> 00:28:04,559
have any uh comments and questions. any

646
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:07,279
anything that

647
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:12,710
you would want to add

648
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,399
or you need a little more time for for

649
00:28:14,399 --> 00:28:16,399
reading the

650
00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:18,000
>> Were these sent to us or something?

651
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,679
>> Well, they were just handed out before

652
00:28:19,679 --> 00:28:21,520
the meeting,

653
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,520
>> but we can we could take a little more

654
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,000
time to to read it and then and before

655
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,840
we make any decisions, we'll ask the

656
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:36,149
public for any comments, too.

657
00:28:36,159 --> 00:28:38,240
And maybe a little little background on

658
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,200
it is uh well we're this little

659
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:46,159
interlude here. Um the uh uh our

660
00:28:46,159 --> 00:28:49,760
police chief Jay Brock uh his last day

661
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,919
as interim city manager was last Friday.

662
00:28:53,919 --> 00:28:57,279
He's still our police chief. Uh we're

663
00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:00,320
trying to get an interim city manager as

664
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,039
soon as possible to fill that role

665
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:05,520
because as you can see tonight we don't

666
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,679
have everything we need to to carry on

667
00:29:07,679 --> 00:29:12,960
business. Um and so uh we interview we

668
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,960
actually screened I think there were

669
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,679
maybe five people that uh we thought

670
00:29:17,679 --> 00:29:20,559
might apply for the job and it turned

671
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:22,399
out that actually only two were

672
00:29:22,399 --> 00:29:24,480
available to interview last Friday

673
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,960
evening when we're here. And so we did

674
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,039
those interviews and so at this point I

675
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:34,080
I'd say it's a decision on the council

676
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,720
between those two people that we

677
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,960
interviewed.

678
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,960
>> What's there's three people. What is

679
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,640
this?

680
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,640
The Fernando Santan. Is that something

681
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,990
different?

682
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,360
» Mr. Santion, I think he was available

683
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,080
like on a 5050,

684
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,799
>> a little bit more than 5050

685
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:03,840
on the phone and every other week he um

686
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,000
he has to have a alternate schedule

687
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,000
because of his kids. He lives in Fresno

688
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,120
and I'm going to be doing this. So, he

689
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,600
has to drop at school and then he also

690
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,679
has to pick them up from school. And

691
00:30:15,679 --> 00:30:18,559
then he also has a commitment on stage

692
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:20,960
uh two stations

693
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,360
as well and

694
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,320
>> okay so if we wanted a full-time

695
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,399
interim city manager there's two if we

696
00:30:28,399 --> 00:30:30,799
wanted to consider

697
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:32,559
part-time

698
00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:35,360
that could be considered also

699
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,440
so basically everything's on the table

700
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,360
>> so that Fernando Santan we didn't

701
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,559
interview him so is that one

702
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:44,159
>> so can we schedule a date to interview

703
00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:46,960
him because I don't want to say that we

704
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,480
interviewed two people and this guy we

705
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,640
don't even know who he is. We just got

706
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,600
it today.

707
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,799
>> Well, he he had been contacted earlier,

708
00:30:56,799 --> 00:30:58,799
too.

709
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:02,559
Yeah. And uh we can decide to do that or

710
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:04,240
we can decide that we want to make a

711
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:21,990
decision based on who we interview.

712
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,520
I think it's more than fair to give

713
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:35,909
everybody interviews.

714
00:31:35,919 --> 00:31:38,159
Well,

715
00:31:38,159 --> 00:31:40,000
like I said earlier, I think we need to

716
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,039
have someone as soon as possible. And if

717
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:45,600
we were satisfied with one of the

718
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,399
persons that we interviewed, I think we

719
00:31:48,399 --> 00:31:52,549
should make a decision on that,

720
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:59,990
but that's up to us.

721
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,080
» So, Paul, tonight is just a discussion

722
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,720
of who we're going to choose. That's it.

723
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,960
>> It's actually

724
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,200
under an action item, so we can take

725
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:17,590
action.

726
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,039
But it's is it talking about the

727
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:22,320
employment commitment and

728
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,080
compensation and what about the

729
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,919
backgrounds checks? They how do they

730
00:32:25,919 --> 00:32:27,360
clear?

731
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,200
>> We have not done any background checks

732
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,519
yet, but if we were to make a decision,

733
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:35,360
we could make it subject to a positive

734
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,600
background check. I think that

735
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,919
previously happened to us with um Daniel

736
00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:42,080
Padilla and we said that we weren't

737
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,519
going to do that again. We'd wait for

738
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:46,640
the background check to be completed if

739
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,880
I'm correct.

740
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,480
>> That's why we would make it contingent,

741
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,200
right?

742
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:51,600
>> Yeah.

743
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,919
>> That's how they contingent.

744
00:32:53,919 --> 00:32:56,000
>> It be contingent

745
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,600
on passing.

746
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,240
>> That's what we said was in also. I mean,

747
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,600
>> yeah, that went sideways for a whole

748
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,039
other reason.

749
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:11,430
>> No, it was for that reason.

750
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:11,840
» Yeah,

751
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,919
>> I'm happy with um you know, the the

752
00:33:13,919 --> 00:33:15,760
responses that we got back from Mr.

753
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,600
Northcraftoft. He interviewed really

754
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,039
well. Uh he's been in a city manager for

755
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:23,760
position for many years in one way or

756
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,159
under or another, either interim or

757
00:33:26,159 --> 00:33:29,120
full-time. So, um, yeah, I would

758
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,399
consider

759
00:33:30,399 --> 00:33:32,320
>> it does Northcraft does stand out with a

760
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,000
lot of knowledge and experience. He's

761
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,159
done it before. So, and we need to get

762
00:33:36,159 --> 00:33:37,360
somebody in here quick. We need to start

763
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,640
putting a team together because we don't

764
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,679
have a team right now here at the city

765
00:33:39,679 --> 00:33:42,000
of Farmsville. We're running just with a

766
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,399
few people and and it can't work with

767
00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:45,760
the staff we have right now. We got to

768
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,559
fill it up soon.

769
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:50,880
>> Okay. Well, before I weigh in, I'd like

770
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,360
to open it up to the public. And I know

771
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,840
none of you were in the interviews

772
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,080
because that was a close session uh

773
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,320
personnel issue, but if anybody wants to

774
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,919
talk, you know, come up to the podium

775
00:34:01,919 --> 00:34:05,760
and speak about it, please please do so.

776
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,639
>> Is this guy local or out of town?

777
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:11,119
>> He's uh lives in Tallery, I believe. I

778
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:13,119
know he was their city manager before.

779
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:16,240
>> Okay. He done city manager before, but

780
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:18,800
without a background check, you don't

781
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,520
know what he'd like. and and there's

782
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,639
jobs you can't get minimum wage jobs.

783
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:28,639
Remember what happened to the last one?

784
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,440
year you let him go and he had

785
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,520
experience. Are we going to go through

786
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,119
that again?

787
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:37,200
>> By the way, we're hiring someone to be

788
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,399
interim for a sixmon approximately a

789
00:34:40,399 --> 00:34:44,399
six-month term and then what can happen

790
00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:46,720
is that that person can help go through

791
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:48,639
the the selection process for the

792
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:53,109
long-term city manager.

793
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:56,149
Okay.

794
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:58,240
» Okay. Is there anybody else wishes could

795
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:00,960
come up

796
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,160
>> so Paul I do have

797
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,480
>> well okay well just this gentleman

798
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,560
>> what the qualifications would be for

799
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,760
city managers

800
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,440
>> um and and you don't have to come

801
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,720
forward we could hear you from there.

802
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:15,839
Okay. Uh I I don't have the list in

803
00:35:15,839 --> 00:35:18,720
front of me, but um the preference was

804
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,240
to have someone with city manager

805
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:22,000
experience.

806
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:22,640
Um

807
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,150
>> any degrees,

808
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,720
» you know, um for the long-term city

809
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:30,400
manager, we were talking about having, I

810
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,920
believe, a master's in public

811
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,520
administration.

812
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,480
I'm not sure

813
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,440
if these candidates have that.

814
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,874
I know. At least bachelor's degrees

815
00:35:41,874 --> 00:35:43,200
[snorts]

816
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,800
>> or associates or something.

817
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,040
>> Oh, at least bachelors.

818
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,280
>> Yeah.

819
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,359
>> Okay. Thank you.

820
00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:55,839
Any other comments or questions?

821
00:35:55,839 --> 00:35:56,960
Okay. We'll bring it back to the

822
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:57,440
council.

823
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,480
>> I do have a kind of a question um in

824
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,359
regards to this. Um I I saw the email

825
00:36:03,359 --> 00:36:06,240
earlier and I asked Mike if I could

826
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:10,320
comment on it. Um, if as you stated

827
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,320
being the mayor is only for ceremonial

828
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:14,960
purposes.

829
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,079
>> Exactly.

830
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:19,599
>> Then why was it discussed that we would

831
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:22,240
have Farley do the negotiations for us

832
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:23,920
and all that

833
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,680
>> that was in the email?

834
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,920
>> Yeah. Yeah.

835
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,240
without our

836
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,160
>> so the council didn't know about

837
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,560
>> he he is he has done that before

838
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,720
and if that's something that the council

839
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:43,200
does not want to occur

840
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,400
we can do it differently

841
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,320
>> I was just thinking since the mayor is

842
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,599
supposed to be only ceremonial purposes

843
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:53,680
why would you bring that to Barley and

844
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,400
ask him that that is something that the

845
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,200
council should discuss Yes.

846
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,280
>> And and according to the email, looks

847
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,640
like you already have picked a

848
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,440
candidate. And I just have a question.

849
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,400
Does anybody know this candidate Kevin

850
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,800
Northcrap that I mean if we end up

851
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,960
picking them

852
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,800
again in the past we failed we failed we

853
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,359
managers because again

854
00:37:19,359 --> 00:37:22,079
>> someone has always referred that person

855
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:24,000
and so I thought the discussion was that

856
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,839
we're going to try to steer away from

857
00:37:25,839 --> 00:37:29,280
that. Um, I'm not gonna I know we can't

858
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,119
discuss close session items, but I'm

859
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:33,520
going to say this and I'm gonna say it

860
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,920
as carefully as I can.

861
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,560
When I asked my 16-year-old to go get a

862
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,320
job, he threw a big old fit.

863
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,320
Mr. Kevin,

864
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,680
that's what it sound like. It sounded

865
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,040
like someone holded his hand like, "You

866
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,800
have to come and take this job or else

867
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,800
you're out." That's what I felt like.

868
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,640
Mr. Nate then brings so much experience.

869
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,800
His heart is there for the community. He

870
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,599
would advocate for the community. His

871
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:05,440
number one goal was the community.

872
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,000
>> Yes.

873
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,040
>> It was not about himself.

874
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,079
>> He [clears throat] did his homework

875
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:13,510
about the community.

876
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:18,160
This man, Mr. uh Nathan has so much

877
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,400
his wealth of knowledge, so many

878
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,200
resources. I think he would just bring

879
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,320
it would benefit the city of

880
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,000
Farmersville,

881
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,839
especially what's going on right now. We

882
00:38:27,839 --> 00:38:29,520
need some more positiveness. We need

883
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,040
people that know their stuff. We know

884
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,320
people that are not going to use the

885
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,560
city and we're not we want people that

886
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,800
are not going to have get easy money

887
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,040
from the city anymore.

888
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,480
Um, Mr. Nathan, I think he's the best

889
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,040
candidate

890
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,400
and I'm going to leave it as that.

891
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,320
And I just I got to say that I I just

892
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,240
hope as council members I hope we make

893
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:54,400
the best decision for the best interest

894
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,320
of the people

895
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,320
>> of the people.

896
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,000
>> And so who's going to treat the people

897
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,880
right and you could tell with Nathan the

898
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,119
type of personality he had? He was very

899
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:08,640
energetic

900
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,680
and he is very knowledgeable. And um

901
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,760
I know you you you know the other

902
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:21,280
candidate and that's where I'm I I don't

903
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,119
>> anyway

904
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:23,760
>> we don't know

905
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:24,880
>> if I can just

906
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,480
>> so just the time

907
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,079
>> respond one thing when you say I know

908
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:31,440
the candidate I know through my previous

909
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,880
employment I worked uh with a project in

910
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,119
the city of Taller when he was the city

911
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:40,960
manager roughly 20 25 years ago and So,

912
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,359
I went to some meetings he was at there.

913
00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:45,839
Um,

914
00:39:45,839 --> 00:39:47,839
you know, that's that's as much as I

915
00:39:47,839 --> 00:39:50,560
know him. Uh, I did make some phone

916
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,839
calls uh to uh the the member of the

917
00:39:55,839 --> 00:40:00,320
Chamber of Commerce in uh in Toeri. Um

918
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,680
got positive feedback from him. uh

919
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,240
talked with uh county supervisor, had

920
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,800
positive things to say about not only

921
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,359
his work experience as a city manager,

922
00:40:11,359 --> 00:40:16,400
but his character and he also uh was on

923
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,160
the Deli District Hospital Board and

924
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,320
helped clean things up over there and

925
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,400
was their their president for some some

926
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,079
time. He's also had a number of uh

927
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:30,079
assignments or or let me put it this way

928
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:35,280
jobs where he's uh been the u interim

929
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,200
city manager and this is after he served

930
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,839
the 10 years there in Toeri and uh

931
00:40:41,839 --> 00:40:44,240
positive feedback from those

932
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:46,079
assignments.

933
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:47,680
Um

934
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,760
so in my mind he's qualified. Another

935
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,440
thing that I think is an advantage to

936
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,000
the city if we do choose him is that

937
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:01,920
he's a retired Kalpers uh annuitant and

938
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,720
uh and that means that uh we don't have

939
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:09,440
to pay uh extra for a lot of fringe and

940
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,920
things like that that um we would for

941
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,319
anybody else in the position

942
00:41:14,319 --> 00:41:16,640
>> and and he only wants a job for six

943
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,880
months and and I think in our case it

944
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,119
makes sense to have someone for

945
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:22,960
roughly that period of time because we

946
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,319
want to wait till after election in

947
00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:26,079
November, see who the council is at that

948
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:28,400
time and that council

949
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,640
can that he could work with that council

950
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,599
to, you know, get a long-term city

951
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:36,400
manager afterwards. I I don't think it's

952
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,920
a good idea to get try to get a

953
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,960
long-term city manager right now before

954
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,119
the election.

955
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:47,760
So, those are my thoughts on it.

956
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,359
Well, we know how this is going to go.

957
00:41:49,359 --> 00:41:54,710
So, go ahead and make your motion.

958
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:56,480
» Any any other comments? Because I am

959
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,240
willing to make a motion. But any other

960
00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:00,160
comments from any other council members?

961
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,920
>> I just feel Kevin or Prep is perfect

962
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,760
right now for us to get him right now at

963
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:04,800
the moment. He's got the knowledge, the

964
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,160
experience. He's got good reference,

965
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,920
good feedback,

966
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,760
people saying nothing but good things

967
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,359
about him. He's worked at many other

968
00:42:11,359 --> 00:42:14,319
places where he's helped improve other

969
00:42:14,319 --> 00:42:16,560
cities, got them out of meth and you

970
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,960
know left them in a better state. So I

971
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,720
don't see why we can't get him somebody

972
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:22,319
already been in that situation work with

973
00:42:22,319 --> 00:42:25,440
this you know as city manager. So

974
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,280
>> and thank you to human resources for

975
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,119
doing the

976
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:31,680
>> Thank you.

977
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,440
>> Okay. Well, I'm I'm going to make a

978
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,680
motion and I move to approve a

979
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,560
contingent offer offer of employment to

980
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,640
Kevin Northcraft for the position of

981
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,119
interim city manager contingent upon

982
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:45,680
successful completion and approval by

983
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,079
city council of a background check and

984
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:49,839
review and approval by the city council

985
00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:51,839
of the interim city manager employment

986
00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:53,040
contract

987
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,240
>> and I second it.

988
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:59,040
>> Any further discussion?

989
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,960
Okay.

990
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,240
>> I

991
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:08,079
>> no.

992
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:09,680
>> Okay.

993
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,359
We'll move on with the next item which

994
00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:14,000
is uh related to discussion regarding

995
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,800
interim city attorney.

996
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,720
And um at after our last regular council

997
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:24,640
meeting, our city attorney sent us all

998
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,839
an email saying that he was going to be

999
00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:30,560
resigning the city attorney. However, he

1000
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,400
would continue on until we have a

1001
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,480
replacement.

1002
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,079
Um part of continuing on though means

1003
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:42,800
he's not going to council meetings where

1004
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,400
you can see it would be very helpful to

1005
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,960
have an an attorney here. And so

1006
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,839
um this is just for discussion right

1007
00:43:51,839 --> 00:43:53,785
now. I know we we've got a

1008
00:43:53,785 --> 00:43:54,560
[clears throat]

1009
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,319
a pretty old proposal that came from uh

1010
00:43:58,319 --> 00:44:03,200
Moses Diaz um years ago. Interesting

1011
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,520
being uh interim city attorney. Um but

1012
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,599
personally, I think we ought to take

1013
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,920
some time to

1014
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,079
um do some more research and and and

1015
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:17,920
um you know, we we definitely need to go

1016
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,000
through a request for proposals for a

1017
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,720
long-term city attorney. Uh it's it's

1018
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:25,680
our decision if we want to have a more

1019
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,680
streamlined approach for an interim, but

1020
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:37,670
I just want to open up for discussion.

1021
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,280
If anybody wishes to speak on the

1022
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,119
council, we're open to comments from

1023
00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:45,040
the public after we've had a chance to

1024
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,560
say something and we'll bring it back to

1025
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,440
council.

1026
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,040
>> Is there recommendations from League of

1027
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,200
Cities at all?

1028
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,000
I you know I know that Jay had sent

1029
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,880
something out there asking for a

1030
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:03,349
response and

1031
00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:06,710
» you say

1032
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:09,680
can you follow up on that and and see if

1033
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,240
we've gotten anything because we want to

1034
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:20,470
put it out there and um Yeah.

1035
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,280
And the attorney that you mentioned

1036
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,520
right now, where is he coming from?

1037
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,800
>> He's I I believe Vicelia.

1038
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,040
Uh the the name of the firm is Public

1039
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,720
Interest Law Firm. He [clears throat]

1040
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:34,880
used to work for the Farley Law Firm. He

1041
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,640
was our

1042
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,880
he was the person that was assigned to

1043
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,440
us for quite a while

1044
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,599
and then he went off and spun off in his

1045
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:45,440
own company with some I'm not sure who

1046
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,829
else is in it now.

1047
00:45:49,839 --> 00:45:54,069
who recommended him?

1048
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:57,119
» I believe that

1049
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:59,920
Mike Farley said that he was he knew he

1050
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:05,200
was available and also I believe that um

1051
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:11,680
I think uh Jay Brock had said that uh we had a proposal from him which is what

1052
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:17,520
we have right here. But that's as much as I I could tell you.

1053
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:28,870
Any

1054
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,480
comments from council members before we

1055
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,880
open up the public?

1056
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,400
Okay, let's open up the public. Is

1057
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,200
anybody wish to speak on this item? We

1058
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,319
know we all know we need an attorney.

1059
00:46:40,319 --> 00:46:41,920
You know, any good city attorneys out

1060
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:48,550
there are send them our way.

1061
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,280
Okay.

1062
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,640
I know this it's it's a kind of a tough

1063
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,720
thing to

1064
00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:58,880
you know you don't find city attorneys

1065
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,160
that easy.

1066
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,319
>> Just one last comment. I mean if he was

1067
00:47:02,319 --> 00:47:05,119
referred by Mike Farley and J Brock and

1068
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:07,520
both of them have resigned,

1069
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,319
isn't that a pattern that he will resign

1070
00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:11,839
too?

1071
00:47:11,839 --> 00:47:13,599
So

1072
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:19,109
>> I can't say that.

1073
00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:20,880
» Well, let let's how about if we talk

1074
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,000
about a process here and and one process

1075
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,000
I would suggest is with our new interim

1076
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,440
city manager after he starts assuming

1077
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,480
everything's works out all right. Uh,

1078
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,480
I I think that he could help go through

1079
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,079
that process in uh both getting an

1080
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:44,960
interim and a long-term

1081
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,839
city attorney. And

1082
00:47:47,839 --> 00:47:49,359
does that sound like a reasonable

1083
00:47:49,359 --> 00:47:53,670
approach?

1084
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,920
» My only concern is not having somebody

1085
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,000
here during our meetings.

1086
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:58,560
>> Yes.

1087
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,599
>> Um because I think that opens us up to

1088
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:04,000
liability. Not just personal liability,

1089
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,079
but liability for the city.

1090
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:06,800
>> Yeah.

1091
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,880
>> So, you know, I

1092
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,920
that's a risk.

1093
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,400
>> Just I also just want to make sure he's

1094
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,720
not getting paid the whole amount since

1095
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:21,359
he's not showing up.

1096
00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:26,630
>> Well, I think he's charges by the hour

1097
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,319
» to be here.

1098
00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:28,960
>> Yeah.

1099
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,800
>> Awesome.

1100
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,240
But he would not be getting paid for

1101
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:34,079
being into

1102
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:37,119
that meetings at this point.

1103
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:39,440
Okay. Well, I uh it sounds to me like

1104
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,640
this is something that needs to get

1105
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,829
tabled.

1106
00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:45,440
» I think if we make a decision, it's

1107
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,839
going to have to be at the next meeting.

1108
00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:49,680
>> Okay. So,

1109
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,760
>> so table this to the next

1110
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,319
>> Yeah.

1111
00:48:52,319 --> 00:48:54,160
>> council meeting, which I think is

1112
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,240
September 14th. So, [snorts] is it

1113
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:57,680
getting tabled to the next council

1114
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,280
meeting, Paul, or is it going to be what

1115
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,559
you said and it's going to be the

1116
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:02,160
interim city manager that's going to

1117
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,760
work on it? Well, of course, I'm sure

1118
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,680
you're going to be there helping him.

1119
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:11,349
Which one is it going to be?

1120
00:49:11,359 --> 00:49:11,920
» Well,

1121
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,240
>> I thought I thought you said that when

1122
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:16,960
we get the interim city manager.

1123
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,480
>> Well, I mean, I'm happy to make a

1124
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:19,760
decision right now if that's what you

1125
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,359
would like.

1126
00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:22,960
>> I wasn't speaking to you, Greg. I was

1127
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,240
talking to Paul.

1128
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:25,920
>> St.

1129
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,520
Why does it always have to count on you,

1130
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,200
Greg? You always have to make decisions.

1131
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:36,160
>> Okay, let let's let's get Okay, back to Okay. Um,

1132
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,559
>> well, I will say this. You know, we

1133
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:40,079
Nothing's going to happen until the

1134
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:42,640
council takes action.

1135
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,319
>> Well, you guys might as well take action

1136
00:49:44,319 --> 00:49:46,000
because you guys are going to agree on

1137
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,599
it. You guys are going to go against us.

1138
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:50,480
>> We need to table it all. We need to uh

1139
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,160
talk to Vegas cities.

1140
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,880
>> Yeah. and and and that's that's my

1141
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,160
recommendation that we table this until

1142
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,160
the the next meeting regular meeting

1143
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,480
which will be September 14th. By that

1144
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,880
time hopefully we'll have our inner city

1145
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,150
manager

1146
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,839
ready and also uh hopefully uh we'll

1147
00:50:13,839 --> 00:50:15,359
have some information from League of

1148
00:50:15,359 --> 00:50:20,240
Cities and and any other avenues we can

1149
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:24,160
you know start searching

1150
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,200
So is that is that a motion to table

1151
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,960
till

1152
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,720
the next meeting? So

1153
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:32,720
>> yeah, I'll second it.

1154
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:36,000
>> And we need to get attorneys.

1155
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,119
>> Hi.

1156
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:40,559
>> Yes.

1157
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:43,280
>> No.

1158
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,920
>> Okay. Uh next item is uh we have council

1159
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,240
reports and

1160
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:52,960
Tina, you want to start your end? Well,

1161
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,800
go ahead. Skip me for right now. Come

1162
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,680
back to it.

1163
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,920
>> Okay. Or

1164
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,119
>> none for me.

1165
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:00,400
>> Wait a minute. We didn't do future

1166
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,960
agenda items, do we?

1167
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,870
>> Oh, sorry.

1168
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,000
» Uh, Greg.

1169
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,160
>> No.

1170
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,630
>> Danny.

1171
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,559
» Okay. Well, one thing I'll I'll mention

1172
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:19,680
is the Economic Development Corporation.

1173
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,920
I went to a meeting Wednesday last week

1174
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,119
and that the decision of the board was

1175
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:29,040
to dissolve the EDC

1176
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,559
uh

1177
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:33,680
and uh they looked at like the last five

1178
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:38,160
years and how the the balance of

1179
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,640
finances was going down and uh even

1180
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:41,839
though they were cutting back

1181
00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:44,400
significantly on staff

1182
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,079
uh they decided it's best to dissolve

1183
00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:48,000
while they still have funds to go

1184
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,920
through the dissolution process. They

1185
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,040
also um and the suggestion was that we

1186
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,119
voted on whatever funds are left over

1187
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:59,119
would go to the EDC foundation

1188
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:01,599
which um

1189
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:04,960
uh can still receive grants from um

1190
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,520
entities such as bankier which donated

1191
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,440
25,000 this year to to the cre because

1192
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,000
of the community community reinvestment

1193
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,079
act. Um the next meeting is going to be

1194
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:21,119
on October 28th and at that point

1195
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:24,079
there'll probably be more information on

1196
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:29,200
the process. U in the meantime too um

1197
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,040
talking with um

1198
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,520
Mike and Alita that work for Tallery

1199
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,079
County Economic Development Office,

1200
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:39,760
which is a separate entity through the

1201
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,480
county. um they're they're still willing

1202
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,520
to work with the smaller cities to uh

1203
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,720
help with economic development and so we

1204
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:51,200
can call on them if

1205
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,640
and and at this point they're not

1206
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,440
charging anything so it's worth doing.

1207
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,839
Uh and other larger cities such as

1208
00:52:57,839 --> 00:53:00,400
Vicelia they have their own economic

1209
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:01,760
development staff. Same thing with

1210
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,559
Taller, same thing with um with

1211
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:07,760
Porterville. So, uh, I think the smaller

1212
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,880
cities, you know, if we want to, um,

1213
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,720
could could possibly align with the

1214
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:14,160
county or we could try to do something

1215
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,640
different, but just want to give an

1216
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,599
update on that that it looks like the EC

1217
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:22,319
is is going away.

1218
00:53:22,319 --> 00:53:26,240
And that's my only council report. And

1219
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:29,040
so, we'll go at this point for uh,

1220
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,720
manager reports and for city engineer

1221
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:35,040
Jason.

1222
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,520
done. So we got all the information sent

1223
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,800
out tomorrow

1224
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,119
just basically tell them what they need.

1225
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:44,559
Obviously they have to do it for their

1226
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:46,880
own lenders but that was all done and

1227
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,559
researched and completed. So I went

1228
00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:52,470
through that as well.

1229
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:53,920
» Thank you Jason. You went above and

1230
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,520
beyond. You didn't have to do that but

1231
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,880
you did. Um I already uh let the

1232
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,480
neighbors know especially all the other

1233
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,839
streets. um they're very grateful about

1234
00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:06,240
it because again they're very low income

1235
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:07,440
and they didn't know where this money

1236
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,160
was going to come from. And so I I truly

1237
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,599
appreciate you that you did that.

1238
00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:13,520
>> Yeah. And good job. And and I was going

1239
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,040
to ask Tina, I know you first brought

1240
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,520
this up and and I don't know if this

1241
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,480
addressed all the properties that you

1242
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,960
had mentioned uh that might be on the

1243
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,960
other side of

1244
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,640
um

1245
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,880
the other side I think on on Virginia

1246
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,839
maybe on the on the south side of the

1247
00:54:31,839 --> 00:54:35,440
bullet of Vicelia road. Uh, and so and I

1248
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:36,720
didn't want to because of the Brown Act,

1249
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:39,119
I know I was talking with Arceli, I

1250
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:40,160
didn't want to be talking with you about

1251
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,440
at the same time, but this is something

1252
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:42,880
that I think could come back as an

1253
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:47,920
agenda item to discuss all of it.

1254
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,599
>> Yeah, if that sounds reasonable to you.

1255
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:51,200
>> I thought letters were already sent out

1256
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,800
to all the residents to let them know

1257
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,640
that it was taken out of the

1258
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,880
>> concern.

1259
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,559
No, but before because I had Eddie

1260
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:05,040
um reach out to city manager and he

1261
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,720
>> he sent over a letter that should have

1262
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:08,559
been sent out to all the residents a

1263
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:09,440
while back

1264
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,880
>> and and and my understanding

1265
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,400
>> I don't think they were based on

1266
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,160
attorney's

1267
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,040
>> opinion and and in this case instead of

1268
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,440
coming out from the city it came from

1269
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,280
Jason at at four creeks and it was

1270
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,920
worded differently and and

1271
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,000
Mr. Farley reviewed that letter

1272
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,839
>> because Eddie's

1273
00:55:29,839 --> 00:55:33,333
he's a blood guy that I use

1274
00:55:33,333 --> 00:55:34,480
[clears throat]

1275
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,880
the one when the flood zone map changed

1276
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,880
I found the person that repaired the

1277
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,880
entire flood zone. So she went through

1278
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,720
the entire like to make sure I fully

1279
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:45,200
comprehended what she did. So I had a

1280
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,800
good understanding of what she did which

1281
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,559
essentially is just more or less she

1282
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:52,160
just removed stuff she really had.

1283
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,240
>> So basically zones are right next to the

1284
00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:55,520
channel.

1285
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,119
>> So that's why I'm recommend we bring it

1286
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,119
back as an agenda item for covering all

1287
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:02,160
those other properties. Uh Tina and if

1288
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,040
the is it Mr. Perez the surveyor, you

1289
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,720
know, has that input that maybe that

1290
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:09,119
could get to Jason, too.

1291
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:10,240
>> That that would be good.

1292
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:12,160
>> Mayor, that was that was just wasted

1293
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,599
time. Ben, was Eddie?

1294
00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:16,079
>> So, Mayor Paul, so since the city

1295
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:18,480
dropped the ball on this um people did

1296
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,480
go out there and purchase flood

1297
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:21,119
insurance.

1298
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:21,760
>> Well, they did.

1299
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,640
>> And they did uh get a city an engineer

1300
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,480
to come and get them out of the flood

1301
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,880
zone. Um what can that be done for that?

1302
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,880
Well, I'm not sure. The city dropped the

1303
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,559
ball. I think the attorney was was

1304
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:36,640
concerned about the liability of the way

1305
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,119
the letter the letter was written.

1306
00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:40,319
>> Was that recently?

1307
00:56:40,319 --> 00:56:44,319
>> Was that recently? The letter

1308
00:56:44,319 --> 00:56:46,000
>> we were told it was going to get sent

1309
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,440
out a long a while back.

1310
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,480
>> Yeah. I don't think you were included,

1311
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,960
Paul, but there was months ago um

1312
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,640
>> this was already happening

1313
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,160
>> and it was reported to the um city clerk

1314
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,119
and city manager about it and it never

1315
00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:01,839
happened. So, um, everything that you

1316
00:57:01,839 --> 00:57:04,160
sent me, Jason, we already had it.

1317
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:04,480
>> Okay.

1318
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,520
>> Um, yeah.

1319
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,520
>> All I say is we've talked a lot about it

1320
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:08,960
and we ought to have as an agenda item

1321
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,200
and then we could go in more details.

1322
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,680
>> Okay.

1323
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,000
>> Do you want that as anformational item?

1324
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,319
>> Uh, well, and and to consider the

1325
00:57:20,319 --> 00:57:24,079
additional properties that you have you

1326
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:24,799
have

1327
00:57:24,799 --> 00:57:25,680
>> to find out.

1328
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:26,079
>> Yeah.

1329
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:28,000
>> Why wasn't anything done back then?

1330
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,760
because now our people have had to pay

1331
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,000
out of pocket. So I would like to know

1332
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,720
when the city attorney stated that that

1333
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,640
letter was

1334
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,319
not to be sent out

1335
00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:40,799
>> because I was the misunderstanding and I

1336
00:57:40,799 --> 00:57:43,359
did a lot of the leg work also emailing

1337
00:57:43,359 --> 00:57:45,040
and he would call me because nobody had

1338
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,799
emailed him. So I want to make sure

1339
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:50,799
>> why wasn't that letter sent out to our

1340
00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:52,799
people. So yeah, if you could put that

1341
00:57:52,799 --> 00:57:54,640
on the agenda and find out all the

1342
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,520
answers, I would really appreciate that.

1343
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,680
Okay.

1344
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,599
>> Yeah. Well, you're you're you're not

1345
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:03,599
responsible for that part. Okay. It's

1346
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:05,920
trying to get the new letters out to the

1347
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,839
people that didn't get it before. I

1348
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:10,000
believe that in the format that you

1349
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:10,559
prepared.

1350
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:11,119
>> Yeah.

1351
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:19,589
>> Okay. Anything else?

1352
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:22,559
» So, they didn't quite

1353
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:25,520
making sure.

1354
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:31,030
So they're moving very tough now

1355
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,680
at the end. So that's a good thing. Um

1356
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:40,950
and then I got as meeting I got challen

1357
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,839
right now.

1358
00:58:43,839 --> 00:58:45,680
We all going to regular roundabout. You

1359
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:46,880
kind of see how they play into

1360
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,640
everything. So roundabouts will be

1361
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,400
conceptual at this point time but you'll

1362
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,680
be able to see how they tie in and then

1363
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,599
you'll get to see someone from the

1364
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:55,599
county will be here. I'm working with

1365
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:57,599
that. It's going to actually be able to

1366
00:58:57,599 --> 00:58:59,200
answer any questions. I'll probably have

1367
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,359
a couple staff members here that are

1368
00:59:01,359 --> 00:59:03,680
working with 280 design itself as well.

1369
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,920
So, it'll be more of a presentation. You

1370
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,680
guys can ask questions. You guys are

1371
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,240
getting questions on it.

1372
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,200
>> That's great. Thank you. Thank you,

1373
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:21,510
>> Chief.

1374
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:22,640
That's something we could look into in

1375
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,280
the future, but go ahead, Chief.

1376
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,200
So

1377
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,720
fire department at the senior center we

1378
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,359
did a heat illness presentation last

1379
00:59:31,359 --> 00:59:34,160
week and enjoy that. Our next

1380
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:38,079
presentation will be in two two or three

1381
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:39,839
weeks. We're going to bring in a lot of

1382
00:59:39,839 --> 00:59:41,599
our tools and equipment to do kind of a

1383
00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:46,000
short display with seniors. And the

1384
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,119
other news I have we had six went out

1385
00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:52,079
this morning the timber fire.

1386
00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:56,480
>> Oh wow. We'll be there again.

1387
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,119
>> Wow. And and and they've already come

1388
00:59:59,119 --> 01:00:01,280
back from two other wildfires.

1389
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,960
>> They came back from the other ones. And

1390
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,559
so this morning I dispatched that.

1391
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:13,190
>> Wow.

1392
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,920
» Okay. Okay. And Sergeant Prost, we don't

1393
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,040
want to put you on the spot, but

1394
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,319
anything you want to report on from the

1395
01:00:18,319 --> 01:00:19,280
police department?

1396
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,200
>> Uh nothing at this time.

1397
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,359
>> Okay. Okay. Thank you. call for council

1398
01:00:23,359 --> 01:00:24,720
reports. I'm not sure when I can bring

1399
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,839
this up, but um I I still want to get

1400
01:00:27,839 --> 01:00:30,640
all those in in those minutes from the

1401
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,520
last meeting. I was unable to speak

1402
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,880
>> and um change that. So, I would like to

1403
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,720
one of these days put that on the agenda

1404
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,160
soon

1405
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,359
>> so that I could get my minutes changed

1406
01:00:43,359 --> 01:00:47,839
and my input. I I I believe what's being

1407
01:00:47,839 --> 01:00:52,400
worked on is to have um

1408
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,040
verbate uh recordings

1409
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,280
of of everything

1410
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,200
uh and and and I'm talking about going

1411
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,440
forward and I'm not sure I can answer

1412
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:06,079
everything about going backwards, but going forwards uh recordings and

1413
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:08,720
then uh but we would have to vote if we

1414
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,440
want just summary minutes

1415
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,000
from that are typed but having the

1416
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,480
recordings that stay basically as long

1417
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,559
as the minutes stay that that could be

1418
01:01:18,559 --> 01:01:22,319
looked at. Um and um obviously we know

1419
01:01:22,319 --> 01:01:23,839
that you know depending on the length of

1420
01:01:23,839 --> 01:01:26,480
a meeting sometimes those

1421
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,079
you know I I I think one of them was

1422
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:31,200
over 12 pages single spaced and still

1423
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,480
didn't cover everything. So but um

1424
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,319
that's that's not forgotten about what

1425
01:01:36,319 --> 01:01:40,480
you said about in the past to to get get

1426
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,720
that together.

1427
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,480
Okay. Anything else? Council comments.

1428
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,559
>> Yeah. Um about the minutes again. Yeah.

1429
01:01:48,559 --> 01:01:52,720
>> Um so we've always done summary minutes.

1430
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:53,200
>> Yeah.

1431
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:58,000
>> We never move to do transcription

1432
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,760
or, you know, to have somebody sit there

1433
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,440
and listen to the recording for however

1434
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,200
long it takes to manually type it out.

1435
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,440
Um why are we flip-flopping back and

1436
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:08,000
forth?

1437
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,400
>> Because the context is not there, Greg.

1438
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,119
That's why we're flip-flopping back. I I

1439
01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:16,240
think we need to bring it to us and then

1440
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,319
make a decision how we want it done. But

1441
01:02:18,319 --> 01:02:20,079
it seemed like it would be a good comp

1442
01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:22,640
compromise if we

1443
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,559
um if we do the the recordings that

1444
01:02:26,559 --> 01:02:28,880
anybody could look at or listen to and

1445
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,559
then we have summary minutes which makes

1446
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:33,440
it easier on the clerk. I I believe

1447
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,280
what's being looked at too is whether or

1448
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,920
not we can have some sort of um the it

1449
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,720
looking at it here for a screen for live

1450
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,520
streaming and making it so that the

1451
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,440
meetings are available to people online

1452
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,799
on a regular basis. Um, right now it's

1453
01:02:48,799 --> 01:02:50,799
on Zoom, right?

1454
01:02:50,799 --> 01:02:53,040
>> It's just Zoom. So, we're working on

1455
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,079
YouTube live and also Yeah. do all new

1456
01:02:56,079 --> 01:02:58,160
microphones that'll be on the next.

1457
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,240
>> So, is this meeting recorded?

1458
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,720
>> Is this meeting being recorded

1459
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:03,760
>> on Zoom? Yes.

1460
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,200
>> Okay.

1461
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:05,760
>> Yeah.

1462
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,480
>> Um, I'm going back to the council

1463
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,599
reports again. Um, where are the August

1464
01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:13,440
10th meetings? We should have had them

1465
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,480
today. That's two weeks passed by now.

1466
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,480
So, that's lack of transparency for the

1467
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,000
public.

1468
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,599
Um, I don't see them attached on here.

1469
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:25,520
And so, that's my question. Mayor Paul,

1470
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,480
where are they at?

1471
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,640
>> You know, uh, at this point, I I told

1472
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,280
staff, let's [snorts] take care of, you

1473
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:36,799
know, the items that we already

1474
01:03:36,799 --> 01:03:39,200
discussed tonight. uh they would be

1475
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,960
coming back in the future with

1476
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,400
so they will be coming but they're not here tonight.

1477
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,880
>> And another um item I do have on here um

1478
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,039
after the reorganization

1479
01:03:53,039 --> 01:03:55,920
on July the 20th

1480
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,039
the I brought it back well Mayor Paul

1481
01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:01,520
that day you did say that to put it on

1482
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,200
the agenda for the dos and don'ts for

1483
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,920
council for training. Again, I brought

1484
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,079
it back on July the 27th and it's still

1485
01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:09,920
not on here and I've been asking it at

1486
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,319
every meeting and it's still not as a

1487
01:04:12,319 --> 01:04:15,039
future agenda item.

1488
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:16,799
>> Okay,

1489
01:04:16,799 --> 01:04:18,160
>> Mayor Boyer, I don't need to

1490
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,119
>> Well, if I could just respond, you know,

1491
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:23,440
uh I believe that dos and don'ts, we'd

1492
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,599
want to have an attorney

1493
01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:27,599
do that. And right now, we don't have an

1494
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:28,960
attorney that's going to be here. So, I

1495
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,400
think we need to wait till we have one.

1496
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:31,599
>> Can we add it on the agenda? Because

1497
01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:32,720
I've been asking to put it on the

1498
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:37,119
agenda. Yeah, we can put it on the

1499
01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:42,150
dos and don'ts. Okay.

1500
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,319
You got that for future agenda.

1501
01:04:44,319 --> 01:04:45,520
Okay. Yeah.

1502
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,440
>> The reason why I want to bring those

1503
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,680
minutes back is because the context is

1504
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,000
not in there. The residents have a right

1505
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,799
to know exactly why things were done and

1506
01:04:54,799 --> 01:04:57,280
what was said and a lot of that is

1507
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,359
missing. the most important things are

1508
01:04:59,359 --> 01:05:04,160
missing which really makes me concerned

1509
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,480
and that's what I'm asking.

1510
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,480
>> Okay. Okay.

1511
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,160
>> I I heard you and I know there's a

1512
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,880
number of meetings where I know I said

1513
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,640
things too but they're not in there.

1514
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,000
>> They didn't have a chance. But that's

1515
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,760
the thing. You could have changed your

1516
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,799
minutes when it was my turn to to do the

1517
01:05:20,799 --> 01:05:22,559
minutes to make my changes. You guys

1518
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:24,799
made a motion.

1519
01:05:24,799 --> 01:05:26,480
>> Or no, you know what? That's when you

1520
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,799
guys took a break and then when we came

1521
01:05:28,799 --> 01:05:30,240
back I thought I was going to have a

1522
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,880
chance and then you shut me down and you

1523
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,119
guys made a motion and it was three to

1524
01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:36,799
two. So I was out I didn't even get a

1525
01:05:36,799 --> 01:05:39,200
chance but as gave a little bit of the

1526
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,200
minutes that she wanted corrected. I was

1527
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,119
not given a chance to correct any of the

1528
01:05:43,119 --> 01:05:44,400
minutes

1529
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,960
>> and I had never ever

1530
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,440
asked to correct any of the minutes

1531
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,520
since I've been on this council. And the

1532
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,359
one time I asked to have them corrected,

1533
01:05:53,359 --> 01:05:57,270
I was shut down.

1534
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,240
And those were very important, the

1535
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:01,920
context. So

1536
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,599
>> we can bring it.

1537
01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:06,400
>> My opinion is we could bring those back,

1538
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,640
>> but it will be with a full not not just

1539
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,240
what one person asked for.

1540
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,559
>> No, there's a recording. I open house

1541
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:16,160
and I I listen to the whole recording

1542
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,000
and I keep saying that's exactly what I

1543
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,119
was trying to put in there.

1544
01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:20,559
>> Okay. But I wasn't given the

1545
01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:23,280
opportunity. And then because there were

1546
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,839
no minutes to go over, that's not good

1547
01:06:25,839 --> 01:06:28,079
that you do that because it's like, you

1548
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:29,760
know, we have our jobs and we have our

1549
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,680
families. So what happened on the last

1550
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,039
meeting we're going to have to take

1551
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:35,599
notes on to bring it to this. No, now

1552
01:06:35,599 --> 01:06:36,559
we're going to have to wait till the

1553
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:39,200
next meeting. So

1554
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,680
that's not that's not fair to us to do

1555
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:42,160
that.

1556
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:47,440
>> Well, at the ne Okay. Well, for the next meeting, there's no problem having

1557
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,240
the minutes for this meeting and the

1558
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,880
last previous one, right?

1559
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:53,599
>> Not my point.

1560
01:06:53,599 --> 01:06:55,520
>> No, I know. But the earlier ones, too,

1561
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,079
that's part of that whole thing with the

1562
01:06:58,079 --> 01:07:00,240
>> Yeah. reporting and

1563
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,799
>> um so that should be a priority on our

1564
01:07:02,799 --> 01:07:04,960
future agenda items, the reporting of

1565
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,720
the city council meetings. It's still

1566
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,440
there's a TBD on here and it's been a

1567
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,839
TBD. So that should be a workshop, a

1568
01:07:13,839 --> 01:07:16,319
discussion. It should be a priority

1569
01:07:16,319 --> 01:07:17,599
because again

1570
01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:19,680
>> the minutes have been

1571
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,599
>> incorrect items that I said I want them

1572
01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:24,640
on the record have been removed.

1573
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,880
>> So there's lack of transparency. Our

1574
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,480
public deserve that and nothing less.

1575
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:31,839
>> Okay. Anything else?

1576
01:07:31,839 --> 01:07:32,880
>> No.

1577
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,400
>> Okay.

1578
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,000
uh

1579
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,039
for tonight's meeting. We don't have any

1580
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:42,960
uh we don't have any close session

1581
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,440
and uh at this point the meeting could

1582
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,520
be adjourned. Thank you everybody for

1583
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,640
coming. Thank you.