1 00:00:02,700 --> 00:00:05,530 Oh, good evening, everybody, and welcome to the Board of Selectmen's meeting for 2 00:00:05,560 --> 00:00:09,270 Tuesday, August 25th, 2026. Please join me in the Pledge of 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:10,400 Allegiance. 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,560 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,860 and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under 6 00:00:20,900 --> 00:00:24,740 God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 7 00:00:25,620 --> 00:00:26,340 Thank you for that. 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,990 Item number three, town manager's report. 9 00:00:30,700 --> 00:00:31,460 And welcome back. 10 00:00:31,900 --> 00:00:35,210 Thanks. So there's not a whole lot substantive in my report because- 11 00:00:35,250 --> 00:00:36,060 That's okay 12 00:00:36,070 --> 00:00:37,949 ... I was at the conference, and then I was at 13 00:00:39,060 --> 00:00:42,360 my first vacation in two years, which was fantastic. 14 00:00:43,300 --> 00:00:46,760 The conference was really good. We had some really great speakers this year. 15 00:00:48,660 --> 00:00:52,200 Really valuable information on TIFs and some new things we can do with 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,140 TIFs, writing RFPs, mental health, and advice 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,600 from long-term managers. So, 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,280 it was really good. The vacation had minimal interruptions, thankfully. 19 00:01:03,940 --> 00:01:06,160 One big one, but outside of that, not much. 20 00:01:07,650 --> 00:01:10,870 So, in other news, I've recently spoken with Gray Lewis, our attorney, 21 00:01:11,260 --> 00:01:13,100 on the Ingalls School matter, 22 00:01:14,140 --> 00:01:14,760 and the 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,360 appraisal 24 00:01:17,220 --> 00:01:20,560 that wasn't finished yet. They did the walkthrough last week, 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,020 and it could be a couple of weeks before we get the report, but that will be 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:24,720 forthcoming. 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,860 We also had an email this week from Bernice at R.H.R. Smith. 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:31,200 That's our auditor. 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,680 She wanted to let us know she was back on our audit this week and hopes to complete 30 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:36,560 it by next week. 31 00:01:37,460 --> 00:01:38,730 The '23 audit, 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,840 I'm a little concerned that Bernice is catching so many things in 33 00:01:43,850 --> 00:01:46,350 '24 that we've been doing that way for a while. 34 00:01:47,820 --> 00:01:50,620 And she is catching all of it, mostly. 35 00:01:51,340 --> 00:01:55,040 They're not material findings, but what they are 36 00:01:55,260 --> 00:01:57,700 is Trio does a lot of stuff that 37 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,100 you wouldn't expect a normal financial system to do. 38 00:02:01,140 --> 00:02:04,880 A lot of the processes are manual, so you have to know what background 39 00:02:05,020 --> 00:02:08,200 journal entries to make and things to make things reconcile and balance. 40 00:02:08,660 --> 00:02:12,269 A lot of those weren't done, and it looks like they weren't caught in '23, 41 00:02:12,500 --> 00:02:16,350 so '24 should be the first audit we have with really good beginning 42 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,820 balances in all of our funds 43 00:02:19,300 --> 00:02:19,660 since, 44 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:24,760 I'm not exactly sure. Probably 2022 was the last good audit. 45 00:02:26,580 --> 00:02:28,720 So anyway, it's coming. 46 00:02:31,620 --> 00:02:34,680 I'm really glad Bernice has been on it because she 47 00:02:35,380 --> 00:02:38,740 finds everything. So we should be back on track. 48 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,460 Good to go after she finishes all of our audits. 49 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,960 Again, nothing to be concerned about, just things like when you have to make a 50 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,940 transfer from due to, due from accounts or things like 51 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,609 that that run in the background that are-- 52 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:55,160 they go to our balance sheet, but they do not go to our 53 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,740 actual checking account, our actual 54 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,500 balances in our budget, or anything like that. 55 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,600 UMF is welcoming the students back this Friday. 56 00:03:07,020 --> 00:03:07,730 I believe so. 57 00:03:07,730 --> 00:03:08,260 So, 58 00:03:09,180 --> 00:03:12,710 I'll be speaking at the welcome ceremony as usual, but this year my daughter will 59 00:03:12,740 --> 00:03:15,660 be one of the incoming students, so that's a little special. 60 00:03:15,700 --> 00:03:15,880 That's cool. 61 00:03:16,700 --> 00:03:19,940 I'll think about not embarrassing her, but I may. 62 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:21,280 You'll be there. 63 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:22,660 That'll be a game day decision. 64 00:03:23,100 --> 00:03:23,630 That's all we'll see. 65 00:03:23,630 --> 00:03:23,840 We'll see. 66 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:24,700 Be there or not. 67 00:03:26,580 --> 00:03:29,280 But at any rate, I do look forward to seeing the students back in town. 68 00:03:29,340 --> 00:03:31,520 The town's always a little more lively when school is in. 69 00:03:32,660 --> 00:03:36,300 I want to take a minute, though, to recognize our staff in the front 70 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,240 office. It's been a rough few months for all of them with 71 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,240 the amount of stuff they've had to deal with. 72 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,580 First with the revaluation, then the change of fiscal year. 73 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,980 Last week it was the tax lien notices. 74 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:50,990 They've been 75 00:03:53,980 --> 00:03:57,640 listening to a lot of frustration and anger, which may be justified, but they're 76 00:03:57,700 --> 00:04:01,380 also taking some verbal abuse, which is not justified. 77 00:04:03,180 --> 00:04:04,400 And through it all, they've 78 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,990 really handled it with grace and composure. They've remained professional. 79 00:04:09,780 --> 00:04:13,200 And I don't think that we really tell them enough how much we 80 00:04:13,260 --> 00:04:14,040 appreciate them. 81 00:04:14,940 --> 00:04:18,890 So, round of applause for those guys because they have 82 00:04:18,981 --> 00:04:22,920 just really withstood a lot, and they're still here, and they're still 83 00:04:22,940 --> 00:04:26,440 showing up every day at work with a smile. So really appreciate those guys. 84 00:04:32,260 --> 00:04:33,660 So that's all I've got for you tonight. 85 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,320 Perfect. Any questions, comments? 86 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,140 Yeah, just part of the problem is different systems. 87 00:04:41,220 --> 00:04:44,520 You have to go from system to system, and the contract guy that we had in 88 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,320 for an interim period, every time we seemed to get 89 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,800 somebody else in, we trade horses, and we're going around the track 90 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:53,400 backwards. 91 00:04:54,660 --> 00:04:56,600 Neither Tammy nor I were trained in Trio. 92 00:04:56,900 --> 00:04:57,180 Yeah. 93 00:04:57,220 --> 00:05:00,900 They want $1,300 per module per day to train you. 94 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:01,460 I see. 95 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,140 So we've been trying to learn from other people. 96 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,100 And with QuickBooks, that's not a fund accounting system. 97 00:05:07,220 --> 00:05:07,290 Mm-hmm. 98 00:05:07,860 --> 00:05:10,940 And nobody knew how to do what we needed to do in there except for the accountant 99 00:05:10,980 --> 00:05:12,040 who left us high and dry. 100 00:05:15,380 --> 00:05:15,500 Yeah. 101 00:05:15,540 --> 00:05:15,900 Yeah. 102 00:05:15,969 --> 00:05:18,140 We just seem to keep shooting ourselves in the foot. 103 00:05:18,620 --> 00:05:19,500 Let me try the other foot. 104 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:20,260 Yeah. 105 00:05:21,140 --> 00:05:24,660 I just wanted to agree with you for the kudos for the staff. 106 00:05:25,030 --> 00:05:25,920 I popped in here last week, 107 00:05:27,060 --> 00:05:30,440 and it wasn't a delightful day that you were having, so- 108 00:05:30,780 --> 00:05:31,340 Yeah. It's been several 109 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:31,980 ... great job. 110 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,790 Questions, comments? Seeing none. 111 00:05:38,300 --> 00:05:40,640 We'll go to item number four, department head reports. 112 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,340 Questions or comments on these? 113 00:05:49,620 --> 00:05:50,740 I'm waiting for it. Don't worry. 114 00:05:50,940 --> 00:05:51,460 You sure? 115 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:53,440 They're not coming up. 116 00:05:55,540 --> 00:05:56,830 No, I can't. Mine, I made a note of it. 117 00:05:56,840 --> 00:05:57,300 Yeah, go ahead. 118 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,420 We'll wait for Ken's. 119 00:05:59,680 --> 00:05:59,920 I like 120 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:02,180 Ken's, 121 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,640 Chief Chau's report about the 122 00:06:08,412 --> 00:06:10,892 Kind of moving away from the whole camera project- 123 00:06:11,132 --> 00:06:11,292 Yes 124 00:06:11,432 --> 00:06:12,472 ... I think that's appropriate. 125 00:06:13,072 --> 00:06:14,112 Yeah, I do at this point. 126 00:06:14,132 --> 00:06:18,012 It would be a-- No matter how well it would've 127 00:06:18,092 --> 00:06:22,032 been handled, I think it would've always had a bit of an 128 00:06:22,052 --> 00:06:23,012 aura to it that- 129 00:06:23,052 --> 00:06:23,182 Mm-hmm 130 00:06:23,232 --> 00:06:23,402 ... was... 131 00:06:24,352 --> 00:06:26,631 So I think he made the right choice of pulling that back. 132 00:06:27,572 --> 00:06:28,292 I would agree with that. 133 00:06:30,652 --> 00:06:30,662 Yeah. 134 00:06:31,632 --> 00:06:32,752 Did you find your place there, Dennis? 135 00:06:32,952 --> 00:06:33,112 No. 136 00:06:33,852 --> 00:06:34,052 No? 137 00:06:34,512 --> 00:06:34,652 No. 138 00:06:35,052 --> 00:06:36,512 Wow, okay. 139 00:06:36,712 --> 00:06:36,932 Good. 140 00:06:38,312 --> 00:06:38,452 Yep. 141 00:06:39,772 --> 00:06:40,572 It looks good. 142 00:06:40,591 --> 00:06:42,532 All right. 143 00:06:44,172 --> 00:06:47,232 With that, we'll go to item number five, is to review proposed change order 144 00:06:47,272 --> 00:06:49,112 regarding brick wall and Hippek Field. 145 00:06:53,512 --> 00:06:54,072 Back again. 146 00:06:54,412 --> 00:06:54,912 Back again. 147 00:06:55,372 --> 00:06:55,932 Back again. 148 00:06:57,112 --> 00:06:57,572 How about if... 149 00:06:58,392 --> 00:07:00,412 If I was a Batman, I'd say it probably won't be the last time. 150 00:07:00,692 --> 00:07:04,212 Oh, in next meeting, too. So now I can go that far. 151 00:07:04,372 --> 00:07:06,732 The grand scheme will be determined next meeting 152 00:07:07,612 --> 00:07:08,672 with the final price. 153 00:07:09,732 --> 00:07:11,072 Beautiful. 154 00:07:11,252 --> 00:07:11,912 That's it. I can dream. 155 00:07:14,112 --> 00:07:17,952 All right. So you all must have a copy of the change order proposal 156 00:07:18,012 --> 00:07:19,532 from Scully Construction. 157 00:07:20,492 --> 00:07:24,382 So basically, they hired structural engineers to reassess the wall and 158 00:07:24,432 --> 00:07:28,322 to not redesign it but reevaluate it, and that was in the original 159 00:07:28,432 --> 00:07:32,172 contract, only because our engineers, they're civil engineers, and they don't have 160 00:07:32,232 --> 00:07:34,552 structural engineers in-house, so... 161 00:07:34,572 --> 00:07:34,752 It's 162 00:07:36,052 --> 00:07:36,732 stamp of approval. 163 00:07:37,382 --> 00:07:38,732 Yeah, stamp of approval. So the scope of work, 164 00:07:40,052 --> 00:07:42,492 this change order proposal is basically, 165 00:07:43,772 --> 00:07:47,732 the original design consists of a eight-inch-thick brick 166 00:07:47,832 --> 00:07:48,212 wall. 167 00:07:48,872 --> 00:07:48,882 Mm-hmm. 168 00:07:48,932 --> 00:07:52,592 So the thickness of the original design was to match the 169 00:07:52,652 --> 00:07:56,072 interior wall that remains, which is eight inches thick. 170 00:07:57,212 --> 00:07:58,252 So their 171 00:07:59,352 --> 00:08:01,952 proposal is to increase the wall thickness 172 00:08:02,832 --> 00:08:04,092 to 12 inches, 173 00:08:04,932 --> 00:08:08,232 and the reason for is to withstand wind 174 00:08:08,272 --> 00:08:11,872 loads. Yeah. So the structural engineers have their own 175 00:08:11,952 --> 00:08:15,652 standards and codes to meet, so I believe a wind 176 00:08:15,732 --> 00:08:19,412 load proposal is roughly around 185 miles per 177 00:08:19,512 --> 00:08:19,792 hour. 178 00:08:21,812 --> 00:08:25,412 So that's what this change order, and the price is 179 00:08:25,592 --> 00:08:28,911 39,319 lump sum. 180 00:08:29,832 --> 00:08:30,482 And this is 181 00:08:31,492 --> 00:08:33,653 mostly just material costs. 182 00:08:34,612 --> 00:08:34,672 So- 183 00:08:34,732 --> 00:08:36,352 And adding, because it would have the rebar. 184 00:08:37,052 --> 00:08:37,381 Yeah, and- 185 00:08:37,552 --> 00:08:41,332 Like, it would make it, which makes it have better durability. 186 00:08:41,393 --> 00:08:41,552 Yeah. 187 00:08:41,562 --> 00:08:44,332 And then it's up to codes because codes have shifted. 188 00:08:45,612 --> 00:08:45,852 Yeah. 189 00:08:48,792 --> 00:08:49,812 So I'm kinda, 190 00:08:51,552 --> 00:08:52,412 I don't know, I'm- 191 00:08:53,272 --> 00:08:54,132 Hemming and hawing. 192 00:08:54,272 --> 00:08:56,232 I've been hemming and hawing this since I've received it. 193 00:08:57,472 --> 00:09:01,072 I didn't want to make a direct recommendation 194 00:09:01,252 --> 00:09:02,242 because there's 195 00:09:04,632 --> 00:09:08,392 like two scenarios with this. One, 196 00:09:08,432 --> 00:09:09,572 it's 197 00:09:10,912 --> 00:09:14,852 insurance, I guess, to meet code in case if something happens. 198 00:09:15,612 --> 00:09:16,692 Or two, 199 00:09:17,932 --> 00:09:21,712 what I was looking at is the 100-year-old existing interior brick 200 00:09:21,812 --> 00:09:23,022 wall that's been standing for- 201 00:09:23,072 --> 00:09:23,802 It's still sitting there 202 00:09:23,802 --> 00:09:24,752 And it's still sitting there. 203 00:09:24,852 --> 00:09:26,092 Without a full foundation- 204 00:09:26,392 --> 00:09:26,552 Right 205 00:09:26,852 --> 00:09:26,852 ... 206 00:09:27,852 --> 00:09:28,072 that 207 00:09:28,932 --> 00:09:32,342 you all approved at the last meeting to strike and re-mortar, and the condition was 208 00:09:32,412 --> 00:09:33,012 great. So 209 00:09:35,072 --> 00:09:35,892 that's where 210 00:09:37,612 --> 00:09:37,792 it's- 211 00:09:38,812 --> 00:09:41,812 So it's just kind of like, would it matter to get insurance, stuff like that. 212 00:09:41,972 --> 00:09:42,312 And then, 213 00:09:43,272 --> 00:09:47,152 so just not a call that obviously we want to, need to have thoughts 214 00:09:47,172 --> 00:09:47,912 and opinions on. 215 00:09:48,072 --> 00:09:48,202 Yeah. 216 00:09:48,792 --> 00:09:49,202 Have they 217 00:09:50,272 --> 00:09:52,552 taken into account, too, that we're going from a 218 00:09:53,592 --> 00:09:55,132 wall that is 219 00:09:56,372 --> 00:09:59,182 slatted to basically a front? 220 00:09:59,912 --> 00:10:00,012 Yeah. 221 00:10:00,072 --> 00:10:02,192 Is that going to... Is that some of that, too? 222 00:10:02,252 --> 00:10:04,052 Is it going to change the pressure on the wall? 223 00:10:04,112 --> 00:10:05,702 So this is, I actually had this conversation with- 224 00:10:05,702 --> 00:10:06,892 I mean, that's got to- 225 00:10:06,992 --> 00:10:07,952 You'd have to step- 226 00:10:07,962 --> 00:10:10,472 You start putting eight foot of water in, that's got to be some pressure. 227 00:10:10,732 --> 00:10:10,932 Right. 228 00:10:11,052 --> 00:10:14,212 So this could be a potential scenario in the future. 229 00:10:14,912 --> 00:10:15,652 So the reason 230 00:10:16,552 --> 00:10:20,312 this whole scenario started was because of the slats getting damaged from plowing. 231 00:10:20,492 --> 00:10:20,692 Mm-hmm. 232 00:10:20,792 --> 00:10:22,952 From pressure from snow pressure. 233 00:10:22,982 --> 00:10:22,982 Right. 234 00:10:23,032 --> 00:10:26,112 Okay, so slats were cheap to repair. 235 00:10:27,212 --> 00:10:29,981 If something was to happen to a brick wall, a crack- 236 00:10:30,212 --> 00:10:30,512 Right 237 00:10:30,522 --> 00:10:31,732 ... structural, that 238 00:10:32,532 --> 00:10:36,272 could be costly in the future. So, yes, we're 239 00:10:36,332 --> 00:10:39,832 making the sidewalk in front of the wall wider to be able to 240 00:10:39,892 --> 00:10:43,012 hold more snow in the winter months for plowing- 241 00:10:43,032 --> 00:10:43,042 Mm-hmm 242 00:10:43,042 --> 00:10:46,612 ... which should help relieve some of that pressure against the wall. 243 00:10:46,632 --> 00:10:47,172 But still, 244 00:10:50,432 --> 00:10:53,152 I was looking at the drawings earlier and the design. 245 00:10:53,282 --> 00:10:57,112 There is number four rebar going all the way up from the very 246 00:10:57,172 --> 00:10:58,332 base. So six feet 247 00:10:59,632 --> 00:11:01,772 under the ground's going to have a full foundation- 248 00:11:01,932 --> 00:11:02,092 Yeah 249 00:11:02,332 --> 00:11:03,512 ... with a 12-inch footer. 250 00:11:04,472 --> 00:11:06,472 That's going to be buried, a full frost wall. 251 00:11:07,392 --> 00:11:11,332 So what you're going to see with the brick is going to be a eight-foot wall above 252 00:11:11,372 --> 00:11:11,692 that. 253 00:11:12,052 --> 00:11:12,492 Mm-hmm. 254 00:11:12,612 --> 00:11:13,292 So everything's- 255 00:11:13,812 --> 00:11:13,822 Tiny. 256 00:11:13,832 --> 00:11:17,432 Yeah, everything is still going to be structurally locked together from 257 00:11:17,492 --> 00:11:21,252 rebar all the way from the very bottom of the footer all the way up to 258 00:11:21,292 --> 00:11:23,612 the walls or the top of the wall. 259 00:11:26,112 --> 00:11:30,072 Yeah, and there's two different scenarios where these walls, in the past 260 00:11:30,112 --> 00:11:32,132 from, like, building schools of Southern Maine. 261 00:11:32,212 --> 00:11:36,132 So this is considered, it's a brick freestanding wall. 262 00:11:36,212 --> 00:11:39,852 It's not a brick veneer wall. So a brick veneer wall would be concrete- 263 00:11:40,132 --> 00:11:40,212 Mm-hmm 264 00:11:40,292 --> 00:11:42,152 ... all the way up, and then just veneer with brick. 265 00:11:42,182 --> 00:11:42,552 Brick faced. 266 00:11:42,982 --> 00:11:44,472 And we wouldn't have to worry about the structural 267 00:11:45,312 --> 00:11:47,292 stuff like that, wind loads and that. 268 00:11:47,342 --> 00:11:47,342 Mm-hmm. 269 00:11:47,372 --> 00:11:51,242 So since this is going to be a freestanding brick wall locked in with 270 00:11:51,372 --> 00:11:52,712 wire ties, rebar, and 271 00:11:54,032 --> 00:11:54,682 some concrete- 272 00:11:54,992 --> 00:11:55,852 Right. 273 00:11:56,812 --> 00:11:58,632 Yeah, that's why they're stressing the wind loads. 274 00:12:01,672 --> 00:12:03,152 Sounds like a bit of overkill, 275 00:12:04,892 --> 00:12:05,832 to say the least. 276 00:12:06,852 --> 00:12:10,352 Could we go back to a concrete wall with a facing? 277 00:12:12,764 --> 00:12:14,304 The brick they go to the eight-inch 278 00:12:16,024 --> 00:12:18,104 A concrete wall with a veneer, a brick veneer- 279 00:12:18,304 --> 00:12:18,424 Yeah 280 00:12:18,604 --> 00:12:21,524 ... that'll eat up quite a bit of money. A lot more money. 281 00:12:21,554 --> 00:12:22,274 It'll need more money to do that? 282 00:12:22,274 --> 00:12:25,784 Yeah, because typically those walls, I don't know if you've noticed the 283 00:12:26,664 --> 00:12:28,024 car wash being constructed. 284 00:12:28,264 --> 00:12:28,574 Mm-hmm. 285 00:12:29,104 --> 00:12:30,724 Yeah, that's quite an undertaking. 286 00:12:30,744 --> 00:12:34,494 Either one is precast walls, they come in and set with cranes and 287 00:12:34,584 --> 00:12:36,244 stuff, or they pour it on site. 288 00:12:37,864 --> 00:12:38,164 Yeah. 289 00:12:41,784 --> 00:12:45,664 Were there any other engineering considerations or concerns other than the wind 290 00:12:45,704 --> 00:12:48,164 load? Did you mention any other factors? 291 00:12:48,524 --> 00:12:49,484 Not that... No. 292 00:12:50,104 --> 00:12:50,284 No. 293 00:12:51,404 --> 00:12:55,324 So, we're talking about flood, we're talking about snow- 294 00:12:55,664 --> 00:12:55,964 Yeah 295 00:12:55,974 --> 00:12:56,764 ... talking about ice. 296 00:12:57,984 --> 00:12:59,674 Those weren't part of their calculations. 297 00:12:59,804 --> 00:13:01,504 Yeah. Their biggest thing was wind. 298 00:13:01,564 --> 00:13:02,744 Yeah, just wind. Yeah. 299 00:13:06,844 --> 00:13:10,784 Just seems to me every time we hire an engineering firm to do some 300 00:13:10,984 --> 00:13:12,694 bid specs for us, we come back- 301 00:13:12,764 --> 00:13:13,574 They have to find something 302 00:13:13,574 --> 00:13:15,804 ... and bite me a*s again, and I just get tired of that. 303 00:13:15,884 --> 00:13:17,484 I don't know why we're paying good money. 304 00:13:17,984 --> 00:13:19,684 Happened at the rec center- 305 00:13:19,824 --> 00:13:19,834 Mm-hmm 306 00:13:19,834 --> 00:13:22,804 ... and this is the second change order on here. 307 00:13:23,034 --> 00:13:27,024 As we get into stuff that I thought somebody that comes out and looks at 308 00:13:27,064 --> 00:13:29,544 it and does a plan is going to be thinking about. 309 00:13:29,624 --> 00:13:32,744 Now, I understand, okay, civil, structural, whatever. 310 00:13:32,764 --> 00:13:35,464 I don't know if we're hiring the wrong people, but... 311 00:13:36,184 --> 00:13:40,004 And the other thing is, I got to think if we're talking about wind shear up to 185 312 00:13:40,044 --> 00:13:43,684 miles an hour, there's going to be a whole hell of a lot of damage all over town. 313 00:13:43,724 --> 00:13:45,924 That wall isn't going to be the only thing that takes a hit, 314 00:13:46,724 --> 00:13:49,764 at this point. And I think we're talking FEMA money or- 315 00:13:50,564 --> 00:13:50,754 Mm-hmm 316 00:13:50,924 --> 00:13:51,494 ... whatever. 317 00:13:52,124 --> 00:13:53,724 It sounds like it. 318 00:13:54,364 --> 00:13:56,464 Because I just can't see that being a 319 00:13:57,344 --> 00:13:59,404 one-time only, or one 320 00:14:00,264 --> 00:14:02,504 area only, could be hit with it. So- 321 00:14:02,584 --> 00:14:02,844 Right 322 00:14:02,904 --> 00:14:03,884 ... I think just- 323 00:14:04,344 --> 00:14:07,183 Just to be clear, I heard 85 miles an hour, not 185. 324 00:14:07,224 --> 00:14:08,384 No, 185. 325 00:14:08,604 --> 00:14:09,194 185. 326 00:14:09,194 --> 00:14:09,344 185. 327 00:14:09,384 --> 00:14:10,384 Yes, 185. 328 00:14:10,584 --> 00:14:10,914 185. 329 00:14:10,934 --> 00:14:10,934 Yep. 330 00:14:10,944 --> 00:14:12,524 Seriously? 331 00:14:12,894 --> 00:14:14,084 Is it justified? 332 00:14:14,324 --> 00:14:15,344 You are right. 333 00:14:15,464 --> 00:14:17,944 That's what the wall is rated for. 334 00:14:18,024 --> 00:14:18,424 Yeah, yeah. 335 00:14:18,964 --> 00:14:21,444 Do we need 185? Okay. 336 00:14:21,524 --> 00:14:25,064 That's why we're bringing it to your attention, because it's hard, because we need 337 00:14:25,124 --> 00:14:25,644 something. 338 00:14:27,064 --> 00:14:27,394 That's it. 339 00:14:27,424 --> 00:14:28,524 For 100 miles an hour? 340 00:14:29,024 --> 00:14:29,824 185. 341 00:14:31,924 --> 00:14:34,044 What a good little piggy house you have. 342 00:14:35,444 --> 00:14:36,364 I got the sticks one. 343 00:14:36,524 --> 00:14:37,504 I know some woodcutters. 344 00:14:37,974 --> 00:14:39,024 I'm a four-foot wall. 345 00:14:40,284 --> 00:14:40,784 I don't hide. 346 00:14:42,404 --> 00:14:42,624 Randy. 347 00:14:43,884 --> 00:14:47,704 185 miles an hour. I don't know if we've ever seen 185 miles an 348 00:14:47,764 --> 00:14:51,424 hour in this town. And we have a wall which is going to take that 349 00:14:51,484 --> 00:14:55,204 load, and they think it's not going to be enough. 350 00:14:57,124 --> 00:14:58,944 We have windows in that wall, right? 351 00:14:59,214 --> 00:14:59,214 Mm-hmm. 352 00:14:59,244 --> 00:14:59,344 Yeah. 353 00:14:59,444 --> 00:15:03,364 Those windows blow out before the wall fell over, so 354 00:15:03,404 --> 00:15:04,684 that takes a bit of load off the- 355 00:15:05,064 --> 00:15:05,484 The wind- 356 00:15:05,824 --> 00:15:05,854 ... structure 357 00:15:05,854 --> 00:15:09,344 ... the wind shear. Yeah, exactly. So the windows are bonded there. 358 00:15:09,374 --> 00:15:10,604 They're just going to be open. 359 00:15:10,884 --> 00:15:11,104 Yeah. 360 00:15:11,144 --> 00:15:12,464 Yeah. Exactly. 361 00:15:13,284 --> 00:15:16,154 So I think you got space for wind to go through there without- 362 00:15:16,324 --> 00:15:16,404 Mm-hmm 363 00:15:16,744 --> 00:15:20,444 ... knocking down a wall. And I agree with the idea, I think we're more 364 00:15:20,484 --> 00:15:21,984 likely to see problems with flooding- 365 00:15:22,144 --> 00:15:22,214 Mm-hmm 366 00:15:22,464 --> 00:15:24,464 ... than we are with a hurricane, 367 00:15:25,604 --> 00:15:26,324 tornado, or 368 00:15:28,424 --> 00:15:31,264 winds in that area. It's a pretty load. 369 00:15:32,024 --> 00:15:35,024 Do they actually look at the area or do they just assume- 370 00:15:36,694 --> 00:15:40,084 ... that it was going to be a wind problem in the- 371 00:15:40,824 --> 00:15:41,864 They looked at Google Earth. 372 00:15:41,924 --> 00:15:44,414 Yeah. It's just the nature 373 00:15:44,984 --> 00:15:48,514 of structural engineering 374 00:15:48,644 --> 00:15:49,024 code. 375 00:15:49,044 --> 00:15:49,804 It's just a standard. 376 00:15:49,844 --> 00:15:51,004 It's just a standard. 377 00:15:51,024 --> 00:15:51,124 Yeah. 378 00:15:51,164 --> 00:15:54,924 Not so much on our project in particular, it's just any place you build 379 00:15:55,004 --> 00:15:57,844 brick wall anywhere, and they're going to say the same thing. 380 00:15:58,124 --> 00:15:58,444 Yeah. 381 00:15:58,484 --> 00:15:58,844 Mm-hmm. 382 00:16:00,364 --> 00:16:02,664 So what would happen if we didn't go with this? 383 00:16:03,424 --> 00:16:04,264 If we did go with it? 384 00:16:04,304 --> 00:16:04,784 Did not. 385 00:16:04,924 --> 00:16:05,624 Oh, did not. 386 00:16:06,584 --> 00:16:10,364 We're still going to get a wall that matches the existing, and we're still going to 387 00:16:10,404 --> 00:16:13,804 get a full foundation, full footer. 388 00:16:14,504 --> 00:16:14,534 Down. 389 00:16:15,584 --> 00:16:15,944 Yeah. 390 00:16:16,064 --> 00:16:19,804 And this covers, 391 00:16:21,164 --> 00:16:22,924 I'm assuming it involved flooding- 392 00:16:23,644 --> 00:16:23,884 Yeah 393 00:16:24,284 --> 00:16:24,984 ... with this in there. 394 00:16:25,624 --> 00:16:28,084 So that's one thing that Dirigo was familiar with. 395 00:16:28,424 --> 00:16:31,874 And they added, in the original design, was that full footing and 396 00:16:32,264 --> 00:16:35,304 footer to withstand the hydrology- 397 00:16:35,364 --> 00:16:35,374 Yeah 398 00:16:35,374 --> 00:16:36,584 ... end of it for the flooding event. 399 00:16:37,004 --> 00:16:37,344 Right. 400 00:16:37,404 --> 00:16:37,544 Yeah. 401 00:16:38,424 --> 00:16:38,874 To withstand it. 402 00:16:38,874 --> 00:16:39,204 To withstand, yeah. 403 00:16:39,344 --> 00:16:39,704 Mm-hmm. 404 00:16:39,764 --> 00:16:42,543 And that would cover that without, with the eight- 405 00:16:42,924 --> 00:16:43,064 Yeah 406 00:16:43,764 --> 00:16:44,544 ... eight-inch wall. 407 00:16:45,284 --> 00:16:45,364 Right. 408 00:16:45,854 --> 00:16:48,904 Have you checked with any of the insurance companies just to see if this is an 409 00:16:48,964 --> 00:16:50,104 issue? 410 00:16:51,404 --> 00:16:53,784 I haven't checked with insurance companies. 411 00:16:54,344 --> 00:16:55,804 That would be the only thing, I don't know. 412 00:16:57,684 --> 00:17:00,324 I'm sure they'd still insure the property- 413 00:17:00,664 --> 00:17:00,884 Right 414 00:17:00,944 --> 00:17:04,704 ... because a lot of our properties are insured without it being to 415 00:17:04,744 --> 00:17:05,464 code. Yeah. 416 00:17:05,545 --> 00:17:05,825 Okay. 417 00:17:06,305 --> 00:17:07,664 And hurricane had come. 418 00:17:08,224 --> 00:17:09,144 Yeah. 419 00:17:09,184 --> 00:17:12,404 Well, it was kind of touched on. The structural engineers are going to give you 420 00:17:12,464 --> 00:17:14,754 the worst possible case- 421 00:17:14,785 --> 00:17:14,795 Mm-hmm 422 00:17:14,795 --> 00:17:17,444 ... because it's their liability if they don't. 423 00:17:19,024 --> 00:17:22,585 It's up to us whether we want to accept that risk or not. 424 00:17:22,984 --> 00:17:26,964 As far as our insurance goes, we are under an 425 00:17:26,973 --> 00:17:30,524 aggregate policy, which means we are insured for a grand total 426 00:17:30,604 --> 00:17:31,364 aggregate of- 427 00:17:31,944 --> 00:17:32,043 Okay 428 00:17:32,244 --> 00:17:35,954 ... I think it's 43 million or something, because the likelihood of every 429 00:17:36,044 --> 00:17:39,044 facility being taken out at once is very low. 430 00:17:39,264 --> 00:17:39,464 Right. 431 00:17:39,844 --> 00:17:42,364 So we'd have to have a lot destroyed to reach that end. 432 00:17:42,404 --> 00:17:43,724 Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. 433 00:17:44,124 --> 00:17:45,884 Yeah. Thank you. 434 00:17:46,704 --> 00:17:47,434 Yeah, go ahead. 435 00:17:47,524 --> 00:17:51,384 So really the only change to it is going from an 8 inch to a 12-inch 436 00:17:51,524 --> 00:17:51,784 wall, 437 00:17:52,864 --> 00:17:54,364 and that's another 40 grand- 438 00:17:54,724 --> 00:17:54,824 Yeah 439 00:17:54,844 --> 00:17:56,204 ... for another four inches of brick. 440 00:17:56,384 --> 00:17:56,504 Yeah. 441 00:17:57,164 --> 00:17:57,324 Yep. 442 00:17:57,744 --> 00:18:01,194 Does that come out of our pocket, or is it split grant money- 443 00:18:01,284 --> 00:18:01,294 No 444 00:18:01,294 --> 00:18:03,544 ... are we paying for this whole wall? I don't remember. 445 00:18:03,764 --> 00:18:07,644 Yeah, no, I'm going to submit it through the MDI grant process for 50% 446 00:18:07,664 --> 00:18:09,044 reimbursement. 447 00:18:09,504 --> 00:18:10,824 But we don't know at this point. 448 00:18:10,904 --> 00:18:11,854 Yeah, we don't know at this point. 449 00:18:11,944 --> 00:18:14,284 Oh, to crap shoot. So it may only cost us 20 grand. 450 00:18:14,604 --> 00:18:14,754 Yeah. 451 00:18:16,432 --> 00:18:17,752 Still something that we need. 452 00:18:19,452 --> 00:18:21,512 And the existing wall is eight feet? 453 00:18:21,532 --> 00:18:22,432 It is eight inches. 454 00:18:22,492 --> 00:18:22,962 Eight inches. 455 00:18:22,972 --> 00:18:23,612 Yeah. 456 00:18:23,662 --> 00:18:23,662 Eight inches. 457 00:18:23,692 --> 00:18:26,452 And it's withstood the test of time so far. 458 00:18:26,612 --> 00:18:27,052 Decades. 459 00:18:27,492 --> 00:18:27,672 Yeah. 460 00:18:28,372 --> 00:18:28,632 Yeah. 461 00:18:30,612 --> 00:18:32,892 I make the motion that we don't approve the change order. 462 00:18:33,322 --> 00:18:34,012 Second. 463 00:18:34,022 --> 00:18:36,872 And we stay with the eight inch. Yep, just a minute. 464 00:18:38,032 --> 00:18:38,252 Second. 465 00:18:38,912 --> 00:18:40,972 Motion and a second to not approve. 466 00:18:42,772 --> 00:18:45,872 Any more questions, comments from the board? Seeing none. Mr. Spiott. 467 00:18:47,912 --> 00:18:48,172 So, 468 00:18:51,812 --> 00:18:55,792 excuse me if I've missed hearing some of the things discussed, but 469 00:18:56,592 --> 00:18:58,752 I just want to understand what's going on here. 470 00:18:58,852 --> 00:19:02,832 We hired a designer who designed the project, 471 00:19:04,532 --> 00:19:06,232 prepared the bid documents, 472 00:19:07,152 --> 00:19:07,832 but had a 473 00:19:09,372 --> 00:19:13,152 clause in there that said they're not competent to 474 00:19:13,232 --> 00:19:13,652 address 475 00:19:14,512 --> 00:19:17,872 the structural aspects of this issue. 476 00:19:18,512 --> 00:19:18,932 Is that right? 477 00:19:19,052 --> 00:19:19,392 Yes. 478 00:19:19,652 --> 00:19:19,772 Yeah. 479 00:19:19,992 --> 00:19:20,412 Exactly. 480 00:19:20,472 --> 00:19:24,252 We've done that several times in previous projects, because we 481 00:19:24,412 --> 00:19:27,312 typically hire civil engineers to do our road work and drainage. 482 00:19:27,552 --> 00:19:27,952 Yeah. 483 00:19:27,972 --> 00:19:31,452 And then, what they do is they put in a contract that the 484 00:19:31,892 --> 00:19:35,692 contractor's responsible for obtaining a structural engineer to do 485 00:19:35,712 --> 00:19:39,412 retaining walls on Front Street and retaining walls around town, similar. 486 00:19:39,892 --> 00:19:43,292 So, when we went out to bid with a project estimate, 487 00:19:44,012 --> 00:19:45,172 that was left 488 00:19:46,712 --> 00:19:47,912 out there somewhere 489 00:19:48,892 --> 00:19:49,272 with no 490 00:19:51,152 --> 00:19:52,832 provision for 491 00:19:53,932 --> 00:19:54,872 the increase. 492 00:19:55,712 --> 00:19:56,632 Right. Exactly. 493 00:19:57,052 --> 00:19:58,812 So now we're at a change order. 494 00:19:58,852 --> 00:19:59,232 Yep. 495 00:20:00,852 --> 00:20:04,032 Who initially designed the brick wall? 496 00:20:04,432 --> 00:20:05,722 Who was the designer on that? 497 00:20:05,732 --> 00:20:07,172 It was Derrick Engineering. 498 00:20:08,632 --> 00:20:12,312 And they prepared the bid documents. 499 00:20:13,642 --> 00:20:13,642 Yeah. 500 00:20:15,632 --> 00:20:16,082 Mm-hmm. 501 00:20:16,242 --> 00:20:20,092 Who, I assume Scully prepared the estimate for the 502 00:20:20,352 --> 00:20:20,892 change order? 503 00:20:21,592 --> 00:20:23,072 Yes. Yeah, they did. 504 00:20:23,292 --> 00:20:23,612 Okay. 505 00:20:24,472 --> 00:20:25,692 And has anybody 506 00:20:26,812 --> 00:20:30,452 representing the town reviewed that estimate 507 00:20:31,052 --> 00:20:34,812 to determine the appropriate accuracy of that 508 00:20:35,072 --> 00:20:36,272 proposed change order? 509 00:20:37,032 --> 00:20:40,892 Yes, I've been in contact with Ideal, the contractors directly, and 510 00:20:41,032 --> 00:20:44,432 their sub-structural engineer contractors directly too. 511 00:20:44,912 --> 00:20:48,882 We've done multiple site inspections with them and, yeah, we've 512 00:20:48,952 --> 00:20:50,032 been in contact with them. 513 00:20:50,112 --> 00:20:52,212 Right. So, we've been in contract with the 514 00:20:53,332 --> 00:20:55,652 person who prepared the change order price. 515 00:20:55,972 --> 00:20:56,712 Yeah. Yes. 516 00:20:57,072 --> 00:21:00,852 Okay. But has there been a representative from town 517 00:21:01,372 --> 00:21:03,692 to review that estimate for, 518 00:21:05,212 --> 00:21:08,972 to determine whether that truly is the 519 00:21:09,032 --> 00:21:10,142 cost of the change order? 520 00:21:10,732 --> 00:21:11,912 That's Phil's position. 521 00:21:11,942 --> 00:21:11,942 Yeah. 522 00:21:11,952 --> 00:21:12,202 That's- 523 00:21:12,392 --> 00:21:12,792 Phil did. 524 00:21:12,992 --> 00:21:13,772 Phil did that. 525 00:21:15,121 --> 00:21:15,952 Phil, he did. 526 00:21:15,992 --> 00:21:16,082 Yeah. 527 00:21:16,372 --> 00:21:16,382 Yes. 528 00:21:16,412 --> 00:21:16,992 That's his job. 529 00:21:17,332 --> 00:21:17,532 Yes. 530 00:21:17,872 --> 00:21:18,272 Okay. 531 00:21:19,432 --> 00:21:19,442 Yeah. 532 00:21:19,712 --> 00:21:20,052 So, 533 00:21:20,912 --> 00:21:23,432 you're okay with the change order? 534 00:21:23,552 --> 00:21:24,312 I'm okay with it, 535 00:21:25,412 --> 00:21:29,052 yeah. 536 00:21:30,332 --> 00:21:32,272 Okay. I don't have any more questions. 537 00:21:32,332 --> 00:21:33,432 I do have one later 538 00:21:34,372 --> 00:21:34,492 for 539 00:21:35,472 --> 00:21:36,812 the parks and rec issues. 540 00:21:37,032 --> 00:21:37,372 Okay. 541 00:21:39,612 --> 00:21:41,912 With that, any more questions, any more comments? 542 00:21:43,052 --> 00:21:44,332 Seeing none. All in favor? 543 00:21:45,772 --> 00:21:47,112 Thank you. So... 544 00:21:50,252 --> 00:21:52,371 All right, moving along. 545 00:21:57,272 --> 00:22:01,172 Item number six, to accept the FY 2025 FEMA 546 00:22:01,212 --> 00:22:04,482 Homeland Security Grant on behalf of the police department in the amount of 547 00:22:04,482 --> 00:22:06,222 $15,366 548 00:22:07,172 --> 00:22:09,412 for the purchase of three mobile data terminals. 549 00:22:10,132 --> 00:22:14,012 So, Ken is stuck in Boston, waiting 550 00:22:14,072 --> 00:22:17,512 for another plane. He will be available by phone if you have specific questions for 551 00:22:17,572 --> 00:22:17,832 him. 552 00:22:19,732 --> 00:22:23,492 This is another Homeland Security grant that they applied for. 553 00:22:23,912 --> 00:22:26,672 That's how they've been replacing most of their mobile data terminals. 554 00:22:27,572 --> 00:22:31,132 But it also is tied into... It's 555 00:22:31,512 --> 00:22:31,712 in 556 00:22:32,612 --> 00:22:35,052 conjunction with the fire department's 557 00:22:36,472 --> 00:22:40,192 piece of that allocation, which I can let TD speak to. 558 00:22:40,532 --> 00:22:44,472 Another memo was produced today. We didn't realize that the two were 559 00:22:44,512 --> 00:22:48,012 tied together as we were putting the agenda together, so. 560 00:22:49,792 --> 00:22:52,152 Do these go in vehicles? Is this, are these- 561 00:22:52,492 --> 00:22:52,852 Yes. 562 00:22:53,232 --> 00:22:54,692 All right. 563 00:22:55,552 --> 00:22:56,592 Yeah, and they're expensive, so. 564 00:22:56,652 --> 00:22:57,792 Right. 565 00:22:57,832 --> 00:22:58,052 Mm-hmm. 566 00:22:59,052 --> 00:23:02,232 You talked about these before. Yeah, they're $6,000 a piece, 567 00:23:03,112 --> 00:23:06,352 and that's if you don't have to buy any new hardware because your vehicles have 568 00:23:06,412 --> 00:23:08,412 changed mounting, so 569 00:23:09,252 --> 00:23:10,752 yeah, they're a pricey item. 570 00:23:14,672 --> 00:23:15,932 Questions, comments, motions? 571 00:23:15,972 --> 00:23:19,712 I would make a motion we accept the Homeland Security grant. 572 00:23:20,012 --> 00:23:21,052 I'll second it. 573 00:23:21,932 --> 00:23:23,652 I'm always happy to get free money. 574 00:23:25,612 --> 00:23:26,952 Especially to Ken. 575 00:23:27,092 --> 00:23:30,312 Right. We've got a motion and a second to accept the FY 576 00:23:30,552 --> 00:23:32,532 2025 FEMA Homeland Security grant 577 00:23:33,352 --> 00:23:37,232 for the amount of $15,366 for the purchase of three 578 00:23:37,312 --> 00:23:41,052 mobile data terminals. I think we have to accept it along with 579 00:23:41,372 --> 00:23:44,732 the other piece, though. So, we could either do a separate 580 00:23:45,932 --> 00:23:49,192 vote, but we can't actually accept the bid, 581 00:23:49,292 --> 00:23:52,652 the grant- ... without also approving the fire side of it. 582 00:23:52,972 --> 00:23:55,392 So, what they usually do, so this is a change in their process. 583 00:23:55,452 --> 00:23:59,062 Which they used to do, it went to the county, and then we'd get, 584 00:23:59,532 --> 00:24:01,492 each department would get an MOU with the county. 585 00:24:01,532 --> 00:24:03,772 They just did an MOU just with us this year. 586 00:24:04,232 --> 00:24:08,042 So, it's under, so if you look at that, I don't know if you saw the email that 587 00:24:08,132 --> 00:24:08,912 I forwarded. 588 00:24:08,922 --> 00:24:09,102 Mm-hmm. 589 00:24:09,932 --> 00:24:11,092 They just bundled the two. 590 00:24:12,232 --> 00:24:14,052 They're actually under one project. 591 00:24:14,112 --> 00:24:17,572 So, I was actually getting ready to look at the paperwork, and I saw that they were 592 00:24:17,612 --> 00:24:21,192 both together. So, once we sign for one, we sign for both, 593 00:24:21,252 --> 00:24:21,752 so 594 00:24:22,988 --> 00:24:26,688 Which is part of that same grant program, we had applied to 595 00:24:26,828 --> 00:24:30,748 update our base radio station here, so we 596 00:24:30,828 --> 00:24:33,668 actually could improve it, actually have a second one. 597 00:24:34,708 --> 00:24:37,908 So we had applied for that also, and we also applied for two large computer 598 00:24:37,988 --> 00:24:38,728 screens 599 00:24:40,208 --> 00:24:42,288 to go along with that for our dispatch area. 600 00:24:44,048 --> 00:24:48,028 And we were awarded $10,000 601 00:24:48,128 --> 00:24:50,888 to do that project as part of the same grant. 602 00:24:51,028 --> 00:24:52,448 Okay. 603 00:24:53,468 --> 00:24:54,318 Do you amend the motion by $10,000? 604 00:24:54,388 --> 00:24:58,128 I would amend my motion to include the $10,000 grant to the fire 605 00:24:58,208 --> 00:24:58,847 department. 606 00:24:59,688 --> 00:25:00,788 I would amend my second. 607 00:25:01,048 --> 00:25:01,268 Okay. 608 00:25:01,828 --> 00:25:03,728 So then the total figure that we're looking at is 609 00:25:03,908 --> 00:25:07,088 25,366? 610 00:25:07,148 --> 00:25:07,388 Yes. 611 00:25:07,468 --> 00:25:07,888 Is that correct? 612 00:25:08,088 --> 00:25:08,328 Yep. 613 00:25:09,468 --> 00:25:10,688 Any other questions? Fred? 614 00:25:11,248 --> 00:25:15,188 The question I would have is, what is the $10,000 going to be 615 00:25:15,708 --> 00:25:17,968 earmarked for? Is that something specific? 616 00:25:18,368 --> 00:25:19,808 So it's a specific base radio- 617 00:25:20,388 --> 00:25:20,608 A base radio 618 00:25:20,618 --> 00:25:23,788 ... like 100 watt base radio to go up here to access, so we'll have two. 619 00:25:24,368 --> 00:25:24,658 Okay. 620 00:25:25,208 --> 00:25:28,548 And then we're also going to have large computer screens that will 621 00:25:28,608 --> 00:25:32,488 broadcast our HER, RIP, BEAP programs, and 622 00:25:32,508 --> 00:25:35,708 that, and what have 623 00:25:35,718 --> 00:25:37,048 you. 624 00:25:38,248 --> 00:25:41,548 Any more questions, comments? Seeing none. All in favor? 625 00:25:42,868 --> 00:25:43,268 I do. 626 00:25:43,568 --> 00:25:44,108 Thank you. 627 00:25:45,568 --> 00:25:46,328 Item number seven, 628 00:25:47,728 --> 00:25:50,048 County Commissioner Tom Selby, our warm-up here tonight. 629 00:25:51,468 --> 00:25:52,148 Thank you, Tom. 630 00:25:52,988 --> 00:25:53,308 That's good. 631 00:25:54,998 --> 00:25:55,208 So, 632 00:25:56,238 --> 00:25:56,728 thanks to you. 633 00:25:58,448 --> 00:26:00,888 Move on to item number eight, approve the minutes of August 11th. 634 00:26:01,108 --> 00:26:02,088 So moved. 635 00:26:02,128 --> 00:26:05,008 2025. Any remissions, Ed Das? 636 00:26:05,368 --> 00:26:09,128 Well, no, the only thing that I question is under number eight, 637 00:26:09,308 --> 00:26:13,188 the previous minutes and the board 638 00:26:13,228 --> 00:26:13,888 discussion 639 00:26:15,688 --> 00:26:18,748 that we talked about setting the sewer rates. 640 00:26:19,228 --> 00:26:22,328 And I believe D**k made some comments 641 00:26:23,328 --> 00:26:24,608 about that motion, 642 00:26:26,008 --> 00:26:29,808 that we would reconsider next year to catch back 643 00:26:29,908 --> 00:26:33,448 up, and I'm thinking that that should be part of what these minutes 644 00:26:33,688 --> 00:26:36,668 say, because that was, I thought, 645 00:26:37,288 --> 00:26:38,508 conditional upon 646 00:26:39,528 --> 00:26:41,048 accepting the 3%. 647 00:26:42,508 --> 00:26:44,628 I don't know. I mean, just to me- 648 00:26:44,968 --> 00:26:46,208 We did say that. 649 00:26:46,368 --> 00:26:46,528 Yeah. 650 00:26:46,658 --> 00:26:47,148 We had 651 00:26:48,188 --> 00:26:52,128 quite a discussion about that and the need to do it that way. 652 00:26:52,388 --> 00:26:52,608 So, 653 00:26:54,148 --> 00:26:58,008 I did not go back in to listen to the tape to see what the exact wording 654 00:26:58,068 --> 00:27:01,888 was, and if D**k doesn't feel, or the rest of you don't feel that it's 655 00:27:01,928 --> 00:27:03,608 important that we highlight that. 656 00:27:04,228 --> 00:27:06,038 But to me that was a- 657 00:27:06,038 --> 00:27:06,708 No, I think it's a good- 658 00:27:06,928 --> 00:27:07,938 It should be amended 659 00:27:07,938 --> 00:27:08,528 ... it's a good catch. 660 00:27:08,988 --> 00:27:12,948 I don't know if that was a given, that we would expect 661 00:27:13,028 --> 00:27:13,968 that next year or- 662 00:27:14,068 --> 00:27:15,868 If it's not on paper, it's not a given. 663 00:27:15,928 --> 00:27:16,438 Yeah. 664 00:27:16,438 --> 00:27:17,028 Well, the con- 665 00:27:17,108 --> 00:27:18,088 It's that easy. 666 00:27:19,288 --> 00:27:23,028 The structure of the conversation was that I said that I would support 667 00:27:24,208 --> 00:27:28,048 the motion, but that next 668 00:27:28,128 --> 00:27:29,428 year I would remember it. 669 00:27:29,488 --> 00:27:29,588 Right. 670 00:27:30,148 --> 00:27:33,708 And I would be expecting to support a motion 671 00:27:34,308 --> 00:27:38,228 for a 3% increase next year. Rather than a three-year 672 00:27:38,988 --> 00:27:42,868 sewer rate set that, multi-year that seemed to have been in the past. 673 00:27:42,928 --> 00:27:45,708 And that was- That this would be a one-year increase ... 674 00:27:45,748 --> 00:27:49,688 and that was in response to the fact that we were only curing part of the deficit. 675 00:27:49,748 --> 00:27:50,028 Right. 676 00:27:50,648 --> 00:27:54,628 And the rest of the cure 677 00:27:54,688 --> 00:27:55,108 would be- 678 00:27:55,368 --> 00:27:55,468 Yeah 679 00:27:55,568 --> 00:27:59,288 ... next year. Now, manager suggested that we could vote on that 680 00:28:00,488 --> 00:28:01,168 whole thing, 681 00:28:02,048 --> 00:28:05,968 that process at the last meeting, and we decided 682 00:28:06,268 --> 00:28:10,108 no, we wouldn't do that because we wanted to see next 683 00:28:10,148 --> 00:28:13,868 year's budget to see if the numbers changed any, if the deficit was any 684 00:28:14,148 --> 00:28:14,608 different. 685 00:28:15,868 --> 00:28:19,498 So we didn't take any action, it was just my saying that- 686 00:28:19,508 --> 00:28:19,828 Right 687 00:28:19,848 --> 00:28:23,628 ... that would be my position. But the minutes reflecting 688 00:28:23,648 --> 00:28:26,737 discussion, I just thought that was part of the discussion, and to 689 00:28:26,737 --> 00:28:28,048 clarify. 690 00:28:28,118 --> 00:28:29,288 It makes sense to make it- 691 00:28:29,368 --> 00:28:29,628 Yeah 692 00:28:29,638 --> 00:28:30,628 ... to put it in the record. 693 00:28:30,988 --> 00:28:32,898 Yeah. But not as part of the vote, but as part of the- 694 00:28:32,898 --> 00:28:35,448 But now it can be in the record for this meeting. 695 00:28:35,568 --> 00:28:36,228 Okay. 696 00:28:36,268 --> 00:28:37,488 Because I just said it. 697 00:28:39,968 --> 00:28:42,848 And so we don't need to go back and amend the old minutes- 698 00:28:43,148 --> 00:28:43,478 Okay. Okay 699 00:28:43,478 --> 00:28:46,868 ... because now we're going to have it documented in this one, 700 00:28:47,748 --> 00:28:48,418 excuse me. 701 00:28:48,488 --> 00:28:49,608 I do. 702 00:28:49,688 --> 00:28:50,468 So thank you for that. 703 00:28:50,488 --> 00:28:51,988 That's fine with me. 704 00:28:52,248 --> 00:28:55,928 And where it will be a meeting off. It'll take them so a week to find it next 705 00:28:55,968 --> 00:28:56,928 year. 706 00:28:58,188 --> 00:28:59,728 It won't take me any time to remember. 707 00:29:00,088 --> 00:29:03,088 If you use the system online, you can just search sewer- 708 00:29:03,108 --> 00:29:03,688 This is true 709 00:29:03,748 --> 00:29:05,148 ... rates and it will come up. 710 00:29:05,748 --> 00:29:07,258 Oh, no kidding. I need to write that one down. 711 00:29:07,988 --> 00:29:08,928 You have to get it online, Das. 712 00:29:09,998 --> 00:29:12,648 All right. There's been a motion to accept the minutes. Is there a second? 713 00:29:12,988 --> 00:29:13,468 Second. 714 00:29:13,508 --> 00:29:15,548 There's been a motion and a second to accept the minutes. 715 00:29:16,298 --> 00:29:17,348 Any other questions, comments? 716 00:29:18,368 --> 00:29:19,648 Seeing none. All in favor? 717 00:29:20,688 --> 00:29:21,168 Thank you. 718 00:29:25,628 --> 00:29:26,228 Other business. 719 00:29:27,528 --> 00:29:27,868 Erica? 720 00:29:28,148 --> 00:29:28,668 I have none. 721 00:29:29,228 --> 00:29:29,687 Okay. 722 00:29:32,448 --> 00:29:36,408 I know it kind of ties into you. I always like the 723 00:29:36,468 --> 00:29:40,248 idea of being able to hear how the progress is being done at the Hippic 724 00:29:40,288 --> 00:29:43,968 field. You go by there every day, there's always something different going on. 725 00:29:44,028 --> 00:29:44,168 And 726 00:29:45,008 --> 00:29:48,688 could you take just a couple of minutes to bring us up to date on what's out there 727 00:29:48,728 --> 00:29:49,228 right now? 728 00:29:50,008 --> 00:29:52,108 Yeah. So basically, I mean, there's a 729 00:29:53,108 --> 00:29:54,128 lot of activity. I mean- 730 00:29:55,248 --> 00:29:55,258 Mm-hmm 731 00:29:55,258 --> 00:29:58,248 ... one site this morning, I mean, you got the skateboard park being constructed, 732 00:29:58,328 --> 00:29:58,598 you got 733 00:30:00,508 --> 00:30:03,388 the field guys gliding the fields and fixing that. 734 00:30:03,418 --> 00:30:03,418 Right. 735 00:30:03,428 --> 00:30:04,028 You saw that. 736 00:30:04,048 --> 00:30:06,188 We're doing all the baseball stuff that's being done today, too. 737 00:30:06,408 --> 00:30:06,627 Yeah. 738 00:30:06,668 --> 00:30:07,948 And the 27th. Yeah. 739 00:30:07,988 --> 00:30:09,208 And then, so Curb Saw- 740 00:30:09,548 --> 00:30:09,598 Mm-hmm 741 00:30:09,598 --> 00:30:13,058 ... Curb Saw is the contracted curbing company that's actually doing the granite 742 00:30:13,188 --> 00:30:13,368 work. 743 00:30:13,878 --> 00:30:13,878 Mm-hmm. 744 00:30:13,888 --> 00:30:15,628 They do an amazing job. 745 00:30:16,128 --> 00:30:16,138 Mm. 746 00:30:16,208 --> 00:30:17,208 Unbelievable. 747 00:30:17,248 --> 00:30:18,288 They're moving fast. 748 00:30:18,428 --> 00:30:19,288 They're fast. 749 00:30:19,328 --> 00:30:19,338 Yeah. 750 00:30:19,368 --> 00:30:20,048 So fast. 751 00:30:20,108 --> 00:30:20,198 Yeah. 752 00:30:20,888 --> 00:30:23,348 So, I would recommend them to anybody 753 00:30:24,836 --> 00:30:27,816 Yeah. So, I'm down there on a regular basis. 754 00:30:27,896 --> 00:30:31,136 I was down there this morning, just trying to figure out. 755 00:30:31,196 --> 00:30:34,396 I think I told this to Erica, 756 00:30:35,276 --> 00:30:39,136 and John, there's going to be a future change order in drainage, 757 00:30:39,716 --> 00:30:41,956 but the change order is going to be a decrease in cost, 758 00:30:43,176 --> 00:30:46,896 which is a great thing because hydrology, you 759 00:30:47,836 --> 00:30:50,096 tend to... That's overkill as well at first, 760 00:30:50,956 --> 00:30:53,576 until you start to get into the ground disturbance stuff and expose things. 761 00:30:53,676 --> 00:30:53,876 So- 762 00:30:54,196 --> 00:30:55,696 Shooting some numbers 763 00:30:56,196 --> 00:30:59,016 ... shoot some numbers. But the biggest struggle right now, we're still waiting on 764 00:30:59,076 --> 00:31:00,196 three easements, 765 00:31:01,716 --> 00:31:05,616 from individuals locally, in order to get the poles relocated. 766 00:31:06,225 --> 00:31:09,076 So I believe there was five already returned and ready to go, so we're still 767 00:31:09,116 --> 00:31:13,036 working on three. They're going to do all the work around 768 00:31:13,056 --> 00:31:16,436 the poles, install the granite curbing up to 10 feet to the poles. 769 00:31:16,976 --> 00:31:20,796 CMP technically allows two to three feet, but they're going to say 10 feet just to 770 00:31:20,836 --> 00:31:24,776 not jeopardize anything. But once those poles are relocated, 771 00:31:24,836 --> 00:31:28,496 then the ball is going to start to happen, the full foundation, because they have 772 00:31:28,536 --> 00:31:29,676 to dig six feet, 773 00:31:30,896 --> 00:31:32,156 a footer on the wall, 774 00:31:32,996 --> 00:31:34,596 only a few feet from a telephone pole. 775 00:31:34,716 --> 00:31:34,876 So, 776 00:31:36,316 --> 00:31:36,876 trick is fine. 777 00:31:37,116 --> 00:31:37,916 Not a great idea. 778 00:31:40,196 --> 00:31:40,206 No. 779 00:31:40,216 --> 00:31:41,776 But now it's coming along great, this. 780 00:31:42,666 --> 00:31:44,326 How is the advanced team? 781 00:31:45,616 --> 00:31:47,636 I'm coming to the next meeting with a change order. 782 00:31:47,736 --> 00:31:48,456 I'm just waiting on- 783 00:31:48,556 --> 00:31:48,676 Oh. 784 00:31:49,136 --> 00:31:50,675 Yeah, we'll wait for that next meeting. 785 00:31:50,716 --> 00:31:53,016 Yeah. So, I'll be there next week. 786 00:31:53,136 --> 00:31:55,216 Working to get different quotes that are- 787 00:31:56,156 --> 00:31:56,496 Reasonable 788 00:31:56,616 --> 00:31:57,636 ... reasonable. Yeah. 789 00:31:58,116 --> 00:31:58,126 Yeah. 790 00:31:58,136 --> 00:31:59,296 That's a great word to put that. 791 00:31:59,376 --> 00:31:59,936 Yeah. 792 00:32:00,496 --> 00:32:00,716 Yeah. 793 00:32:01,696 --> 00:32:02,736 It's foreboding. 794 00:32:05,596 --> 00:32:06,376 It's like an ashtray. 795 00:32:07,796 --> 00:32:11,786 The yellow tape is no longer stretched across, but I suspect it's not from 796 00:32:11,856 --> 00:32:12,716 you guys taking it down. 797 00:32:12,796 --> 00:32:12,996 Right. 798 00:32:13,196 --> 00:32:13,336 No. 799 00:32:14,116 --> 00:32:14,716 Yeah. 800 00:32:14,766 --> 00:32:15,556 The wind. 801 00:32:15,576 --> 00:32:16,506 Yeah, the wind. 802 00:32:16,636 --> 00:32:18,976 187 mile an hour wind that whipped through it. 803 00:32:19,196 --> 00:32:19,966 The 185 mile an hour wind. 804 00:32:20,256 --> 00:32:20,516 Yeah. 805 00:32:20,796 --> 00:32:21,416 Sorry. 806 00:32:21,516 --> 00:32:21,636 Yeah. 807 00:32:22,876 --> 00:32:23,896 Good, Donna, Randy? 808 00:32:24,356 --> 00:32:24,616 I'm good. 809 00:32:24,656 --> 00:32:25,496 Good. 810 00:32:25,536 --> 00:32:29,456 The good news is you get to watch what's going on in slow motion as you 811 00:32:29,496 --> 00:32:33,175 go down- ... that site every day. 812 00:32:33,476 --> 00:32:35,936 Two things, old business type stuff. 813 00:32:36,816 --> 00:32:40,676 I'm wondering 814 00:32:40,716 --> 00:32:44,376 what the update is on, I see we got a bill on the cemetery, and 815 00:32:44,976 --> 00:32:48,936 they're doing all kinds of work on the park aspect of the 816 00:32:48,976 --> 00:32:52,836 cemetery. I'm wondering where we are with the park monuments 817 00:32:52,936 --> 00:32:55,196 at downtown, and the 818 00:32:56,096 --> 00:32:59,836 sister city monument as well, that that's 819 00:32:59,856 --> 00:33:02,676 something that's been discussed and going to be looked at. 820 00:33:02,756 --> 00:33:06,036 And, I'm just wondering where we are with that. 821 00:33:06,416 --> 00:33:09,836 I haven't submitted it yet. I've shown it to Erica. 822 00:33:10,676 --> 00:33:13,096 For the Lake Megantic, we have a 823 00:33:13,956 --> 00:33:16,556 bench typed in there with the same type of format. 824 00:33:18,576 --> 00:33:22,196 And Ken's looking around to try and tie in 825 00:33:22,296 --> 00:33:25,936 the World War II monument with that, and so they kind of go 826 00:33:25,996 --> 00:33:26,816 together. 827 00:33:26,876 --> 00:33:27,236 Okay. 828 00:33:28,096 --> 00:33:29,706 There's more to come. It is in the works. 829 00:33:29,996 --> 00:33:30,226 It's creeping along. 830 00:33:30,226 --> 00:33:31,036 It has been slow. 831 00:33:31,256 --> 00:33:31,856 Okay. 832 00:33:31,916 --> 00:33:34,176 At a snail's pace, but it is creeping. 833 00:33:34,396 --> 00:33:35,326 Well, I just want to keep- 834 00:33:35,376 --> 00:33:35,596 Yeah, no 835 00:33:35,776 --> 00:33:36,596 ... that can around. 836 00:33:36,816 --> 00:33:37,396 It is, yeah. 837 00:33:37,996 --> 00:33:38,776 Or your can. 838 00:33:38,976 --> 00:33:40,456 It's okay. 839 00:33:41,336 --> 00:33:44,245 And the other thing, while Phil is still sitting here and attentive, 840 00:33:45,176 --> 00:33:48,056 we did talk about getting a cost for 841 00:33:49,916 --> 00:33:50,756 cure 842 00:33:51,776 --> 00:33:53,816 at the Little League field out at Philbrook. 843 00:33:55,096 --> 00:33:56,756 Oh, that's still ongoing. 844 00:33:56,796 --> 00:34:00,076 Well, yes, and I understand there's a lot of other stuff happening, but part of 845 00:34:00,136 --> 00:34:03,976 that whole thing is you had said it would be relatively easy to come up 846 00:34:04,016 --> 00:34:07,616 with what it would cost us to, in fact, improve 847 00:34:07,976 --> 00:34:10,616 the drainage and make it more playable and whatever. 848 00:34:10,996 --> 00:34:13,336 A side issue to the other. 849 00:34:13,377 --> 00:34:13,976 Everything else. 850 00:34:14,296 --> 00:34:14,495 Yeah. 851 00:34:14,917 --> 00:34:17,877 We're setting up a time to shoot more grades out there. 852 00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:18,176 Yeah. 853 00:34:18,417 --> 00:34:21,776 Right now, obviously, I think it's been the focus this week with having to get 854 00:34:22,417 --> 00:34:23,696 all the change orders and things ready. 855 00:34:24,377 --> 00:34:27,716 I just know in those moments when you're slow and wondering what you can do to bide 856 00:34:28,096 --> 00:34:30,516 your time- ... I want to keep that on your plate. 857 00:34:31,136 --> 00:34:32,116 Yeah. 858 00:34:32,176 --> 00:34:33,296 That's it. That's all I got. 859 00:34:35,127 --> 00:34:36,336 Okay. Anything? 860 00:34:37,076 --> 00:34:39,576 I'm glad to see the paving going on around town. 861 00:34:39,696 --> 00:34:40,076 Mm. 862 00:34:40,386 --> 00:34:44,156 43's done out to Mosher Hill. They even got a 863 00:34:44,196 --> 00:34:45,095 second coat on it. 864 00:34:46,095 --> 00:34:49,676 It is really bogged down in traffic out there. 865 00:34:50,056 --> 00:34:54,026 Yeah. I've been traveling to Wilton a lot this year, and 866 00:34:54,036 --> 00:34:57,056 they're working around the lake and on the backside of the lake, and it's 867 00:34:57,216 --> 00:34:57,896 miserable. So, 868 00:34:58,716 --> 00:34:59,886 thankfully, they got most of that done. 869 00:34:59,886 --> 00:35:02,156 Progress is miserable. They have a lot done. 870 00:35:02,396 --> 00:35:02,696 Yeah. 871 00:35:03,556 --> 00:35:04,196 I did want to- 872 00:35:04,616 --> 00:35:05,036 Yeah, go ahead 873 00:35:05,296 --> 00:35:06,536 ... so I did want to just welcome 874 00:35:07,996 --> 00:35:10,336 Nathan Hills to our meeting tonight. 875 00:35:11,816 --> 00:35:14,596 He's a newly elected selectman over in Wilton. 876 00:35:14,636 --> 00:35:14,956 And- 877 00:35:16,496 --> 00:35:17,186 My condolences 878 00:35:17,316 --> 00:35:18,796 I was just going to say the same thing. 879 00:35:18,896 --> 00:35:22,696 He probably came here to listen to Tom Samiolo, which Tom Samiolo isn't 880 00:35:22,736 --> 00:35:24,196 here. Or maybe he has some other issue. 881 00:35:24,676 --> 00:35:27,756 But I did note the other day that Nate is offering 882 00:35:29,136 --> 00:35:30,036 a public meeting. 883 00:35:30,716 --> 00:35:30,856 Yeah. 884 00:35:30,896 --> 00:35:34,416 What is it, every Friday at Steve's Market 885 00:35:35,156 --> 00:35:38,105 over in Dryden from like 11:00 to 12:00. 886 00:35:38,276 --> 00:35:41,816 Anybody who wants to come and sit at a picnic table and discuss either 887 00:35:41,936 --> 00:35:45,926 Farmington/Wilton common issues, or if you happen to own property in Wilton, 888 00:35:46,096 --> 00:35:49,196 a Wilton issue. Anyway, thought it was a great idea, and 889 00:35:50,116 --> 00:35:51,526 so kudos to Nate. 890 00:35:51,636 --> 00:35:51,736 Yeah. 891 00:35:52,076 --> 00:35:52,316 Thanks. 892 00:35:52,846 --> 00:35:54,696 And good luck. Mr. 893 00:35:56,756 --> 00:35:57,256 Spiell. 894 00:35:58,596 --> 00:36:02,076 The reason I came here tonight, I knew 895 00:36:02,156 --> 00:36:05,536 Jennifer and Tim would be here. Unfortunately, Tim has left. 896 00:36:06,436 --> 00:36:06,696 But, 897 00:36:08,036 --> 00:36:11,396 I had a concern about, I attended 898 00:36:12,156 --> 00:36:16,096 night baseball games this summer at the Hickory field, and 899 00:36:16,156 --> 00:36:19,016 there was at least seven lights out. 900 00:36:19,816 --> 00:36:23,636 And on one post hole, it was actually a 901 00:36:23,716 --> 00:36:27,316 fixture missing. And when we installed those 902 00:36:27,356 --> 00:36:31,096 lights a few years ago, the rec 903 00:36:31,176 --> 00:36:34,966 department and the fire department worked together with their 904 00:36:35,156 --> 00:36:37,176 ladder truck to replace those bulbs. 905 00:36:37,216 --> 00:36:41,036 And I just want to update why we've got so many lights 906 00:36:41,056 --> 00:36:41,616 out now. 907 00:36:42,276 --> 00:36:43,976 I did not see that many lights out, so 908 00:36:45,296 --> 00:36:46,676 are they still powered off right now? 909 00:36:46,896 --> 00:36:47,446 Yeah. They're locked and powered off. 910 00:36:47,446 --> 00:36:50,976 The electricity's still powered off right now, but I know we've talked with 911 00:36:51,036 --> 00:36:54,436 Jennings and that I'm meeting with them regularly, updating those each season. 912 00:36:54,496 --> 00:36:57,576 So, and now that I'm glad that you're mentioning it to me, because I don't always 913 00:36:57,596 --> 00:37:00,596 drive back at night, dark. I'm surprised none of the coaches have mentioned it to 914 00:37:00,636 --> 00:37:03,366 me, so I will reach out to them regarding that, because 915 00:37:03,416 --> 00:37:07,256 normally they would've already brought that to my attention, so thank you 916 00:37:07,296 --> 00:37:07,606 for mentioning it. 917 00:37:07,636 --> 00:37:09,556 It's something that should be done this fall. 918 00:37:09,636 --> 00:37:12,706 In the spring, the ground's too soft with a ladder truck. 919 00:37:12,726 --> 00:37:16,276 Right. As long as I have electricity, and we're good to do permission to be in 920 00:37:16,296 --> 00:37:20,236 there to do things, we already have a plan for the lights, so 921 00:37:20,296 --> 00:37:22,096 I'm surprised that that is the case. 922 00:37:22,116 --> 00:37:23,396 So they will be able to replace- 923 00:37:23,736 --> 00:37:23,976 Correct 924 00:37:24,016 --> 00:37:25,896 ... this fall and a new fixture. 925 00:37:27,096 --> 00:37:28,376 Thank you for bringing it to my attention. 926 00:37:31,616 --> 00:37:32,176 Anything else? 927 00:37:33,416 --> 00:37:35,296 Seeing nothing, we'll move on to item number 10. 928 00:37:35,796 --> 00:37:38,816 It's a holding executive session pursuant to 1 MRS Section 929 00:37:39,076 --> 00:37:41,496 4056A, personnel matters. 930 00:37:43,296 --> 00:37:44,316 Can I have a motion and a second? 931 00:37:44,836 --> 00:37:45,276 So moved. 932 00:37:46,056 --> 00:37:46,596 And a second. 933 00:37:48,096 --> 00:37:48,736 Peace to you, too. 934 00:37:49,596 --> 00:37:51,956 We've got a motion and a second. Any other questions, comments? 935 00:37:51,976 --> 00:37:54,676 Seeing none, all in favor? Thank you. 936 00:37:55,056 --> 00:37:55,836 Thank you all for coming