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I stand for the pledge, please.

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To the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for it

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stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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Okay. Uh, July 7th, 2026
town council meeting.

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» Yeah. You had a chance to read the
minutes?

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» I have. I'll make a motion that we
accept them as presented.

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» I'll second it. All in favor? I
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make reconciliation for May 2020 20 26
>> I went over it signed it so I make a

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motion we accept it as presented
>> second it all in favor

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» I
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roll allowance docket for the month of
June 2026

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» make a motion we accept it
>> all in favor

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» I
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over Time for

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sleep

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overtime for the month of June 2026.
>> Did I miss it?

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I don't have a copy of it. Do you?
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Make a motion we accept it as presented.
>> Second.

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» All in favor? I
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city building Tim installed GPS units.
Need to get with

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Samarah to discuss options for fire
trucks with the three units. Did not

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have the correct gloves.

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» We took them out. What happened to
engine 31?

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Engine 31 and Engine 32 both fell on
their face. [snorts]

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Um, all GPS units are yanked out
currently.

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And um, engine 32 Selki told me to cycle
the computer several times, see if it

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works. If not, bring it in. They'll work
on it. But 31, uh, the Sam unit requires

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two volts. transmission takes five and
the way it was hooked up

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um it robbed the bolts away from the
transmission that's why it fell on space

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and would not pump. So currently nothing
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» but it is re the engine is repaired.
>> Yeah, there's a bill they charge us for

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repairing it.
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Do you know how much?

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» Yes.

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And I do know when
was it 38?

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» You said all the trucks that have that
master switch could create problems.

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» There you go.
>> Because it kills the power to

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everything. That's the whole point of
the master switch.

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» Yeah.
>> In 38, he couldn't hardly get it to

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cycle at all.
>> As far as when he turned it on, the GPS

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unit wouldn't come up.

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$675.52.
>> Okay.

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I was asked if that was going to fall
back to the fire department and I don't

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think it should. I think it the town
should may not have.

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» We have a credit with sulking right now.
It's not going to go against the fire

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department.
>> Okay. We have a credit.

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» Yeah.
>> Okay.

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Okay, we have four banners ordered in
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» Wait, let's
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we've installed these, but there's never
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a formal policy
adopted

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for the employees to know and why
they're there and why they're being

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used. We've never We've never adopted a
policy.

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We looked at one.
>> You guys looked at one, but you didn't.

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» But but it was tabled or something. We'd
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» And I think
that should have happened before they

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were installed, but

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» So, you want me to have it for the next
meeting?

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» Yeah, I we should have had it tonight,
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We got four.
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correct this or do we need to just leave
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the master switch?
We can't.

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Sam Sarah will not work that way.

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» Well, we can't we can't keep taking
these trucks out of service either.

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» Let me give them a call and let me talk
to them because there they have units

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that don't hook into your engine. What
all that means is it's not going to read

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all your engine stuff, all your
cuz you can see how much gas is in one

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of the vehicles. You can see when their
oil needs changed. All that's what is in

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the plug right now. But they have units
that do not do that. And I think that's

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what we could put on the fire trucks if
you want that. But let me talk to him so

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I can talk intelligent about it.

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» I guess

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Have there been any issues with any of
the other vehicles?

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» No.
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» I just drove my dump truck today, so for
the first time. So, I don't know. It

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worked fine. It has it doesn't have a
master switch, but it has the same type

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of transmission. So,
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» Not today. Okay. That's the first time I
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» around. We I moved some stuff around and
got in a new building. So,

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» okay. I guess
>> and I don't have anything hooked up fire

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station. I yanked them all out because I
I didn't want the liability on me and

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I'm sure they would have put on you guys
if we have a truck going down the

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middle.
>> My son was driving it Saturday.

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and then limp it back to the fire
station with zero power.

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That's a hell of a liability.
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» Burn somebody's house down.

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» We have four banners ordered. Need one
more to create an order.

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» Five. We need it now.
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big one to make them? It'll just take a
couple weeks after they get approved.

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» Electronic sign in progress. Waiting on
Joe for electrical information.

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» Joe came today. He looked at he looked
at all the um electrical stuff. He says

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he'll have to run two new lines from our
box in here. Um two dedicated lines

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because that's what it requires.
and he doesn't see a problem with it.

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They told me not to move forward with
the electrical until they get the

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approval from the county for

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permit.

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» So,
>> Joe's not doing anything else.

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» Area plan.
>> Area plan.

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» Need to appoint a new edit
representative.

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I will step up and take that position.
Well, I will. I'll volunteer.

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» I'll send your information to Laura
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Autumn
from 704 North Perley asking the town to

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put up a sign at her rental house for
her autistic child.

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Well, she was supposed to be here, but

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» don't think it'd be a bad thing, but
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town.
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» Yeah, that'd be the trouble.
>> And the reason I put rental house, I

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mean, she who knows how long they're
going to live there.

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» Okay.
>> We'd have to pay for post a sign and

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» put in their yard.
We're responsible for it. She moves

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tomorrow. Mhm. I mean, and then I mean,
I'm not saying I'm not against it, but

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no,
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road, every house, like you know,

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[snorts]

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» that in knowledge, I'd like to just say
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[snorts]

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Unless
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» there's a formal request we have to
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» Yeah. Just table. [clears throat]
>> Yeah. She she called and

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» want to be on the agenda and she's not
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» She's not here. So,
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» Table it.

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» Marcia conference in Michigan City July
16th. I mean 12th to 16th.

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letter from an attorney concerning
property damage.

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» Andy,
you want to tell Jason about that?

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Because I told Jason it wasn't even this
property that they have on this letter.

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» Yeah. Yeah. It's not even that property
across the street down one. So, we've

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not even dug on. How about I just
respond until ask them to provide

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verification of the damage and go from
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Discuss a park board to be created,
a plan, and submit to the town boards

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for approval.

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» Was there one in the past?
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» How many were on it?
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Got one.
>> Got one right there.

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» Yeah.
>> President right there.

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» You can be the ring leader.
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» I spoke to her after the last meeting
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» you need to find you more.
>> I'm willing. I'll help her. Like I told

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her, I'll help her if she needs
anything. She can just come one of us

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and we would help her during the day or
something if she needs supplies or

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something. So, I've already reached out
to her to, you know, offer that hand if

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she needed it.
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[clears throat and snorts]
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physical labor
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» Saturday guy that needs to work off some
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» Saturday,
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he's he's needs to work off some stuff
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out.
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others that are willing to to help. And
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Maybe one of them would even I think
she'd probably sat on the board too if

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you
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» Okay, I can move forward.
>> You can move forward.

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» I just I just need a plan so I know
the spending thing. I can't let you guys

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go over to the hardware store and just
buy anything. You have to come through

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us and just let it work that way.
Even [snorts] though it's the $3,000

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from the grant, I still need to allocate
where it goes.

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I'd like to discuss something as far as
with with the parks. Um

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July the 4th,
and I talked a little bit to you, Jeff.

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Um, permission was given to go down and
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First of all, they just they had the
whole bull diamond. They could have used

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it. They used the parking lot right next
to the house there and ended up setting

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fireworks off on houses and everything
else. However, I did look and there's an

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ordinance that prevents fireworks in the
in the parks.

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And so I think in the future we need to

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enforce that or you know I think it
left.

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» Who gave permission?
>> Huh?

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» Who gave permission?
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» it's not me.
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during it. I thought it it left us in a
real We could have been in a real legal

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problem there. Somebody hurt or burn the
house down or something. So, uh, there

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is an ordinance. So, I I guess we would
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we would the park
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it's all
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store confirm USA

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had 22 calls for the month of June. We
assisted the medics six times, fire

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department twice, had two or three
welfare checks and two thefts

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and only one juvenile problem. So, see,
it got better.

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Supposed to be here the end of the month
to pave is what I was told. So,

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hopefully his project is done or at
least the roads cut before they get

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Okay,
>> we need to do something.

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» How much How much of that down there are
we doing that?

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» All the way around.
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» Yeah.
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up up anyway from the square down there.
>> Mberry Street any?

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» No,
>> just around the square.

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» Just just a horseshoe.
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» I think we need to look at Malbury down
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and whatever needs to to get it fixed
because it's just getting bigger. We're

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going to lose that.
>> It's from the trash trucks.

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» Yeah, but we need to fix it.
>> I'll give quotes cuz they're going to

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tear the road out.
>> Yeah, we're going to cut it out. But the

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longer we go, the bigger it's getting.
So, I think we need to

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» That road's been our best road.
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» So,
we'll get some pricing on it.

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And as far as for the fire department,
we have 14 first responder runs, seven

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rescue calls, and five fire calls.
>> That's the only thing I have other than

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the GPS.

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» Utilities

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[clears throat]

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» make adjustments first.
Last month's leak adjustments were

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$2,5840.

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» So the reason there's two for each of
those is because of

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» you guys approved it at the last meeting
to do because it went over three months.

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» Yeah. Yeah.
>> Make a motion we approve that.

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» All in favor?
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got my report, but it's pretty much the
same thing. I'll make a motion we accept

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it as presented read.

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» All in favor?
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» I

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[snorts]
lagoon. You want to wait that

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» lagoon
>> till I'm done and let him go.

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» That'll be all right.
>> Oh, I'm not the boss. Sure.

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» And
the fill station and meter and stuff. I

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still still looking into that. We need
to table that one more time.

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» Okay.

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» Same thing with the lateral inspections.
>> India did pull a Union City's ordinance

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and a little summary of that for you to
look at to see what they do.

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» I'll give you a copy.
>> That shows how theirs is worded.

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» Okay.
I just want to talk to some more towns

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that do it and see
>> that way.

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» They've been doing it for several years
and I think they've got the system down.

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So, if you're going to do it, I don't
see why we'd want to reinvent the wheel.

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» Yeah, exactly.

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So, some pump compliance will be mailed
out.

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» I didn't Yes, I didn't mail it out this
time. So, it'll go out in next month's

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bill.

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» Had a first meeting with the zip ty.
Um, Alex has already been out.

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He's all over. He's ready to dive in,
but he's been busy. But he did go out

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and get all the hydrants. Put all the
hydrants on there. So, now he's going to

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go around and do the pictures. You can
put the pictures on there. So, we pull

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up a hydrant. You have the pictures.
I think we're still going to need

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two
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the GPS reader for like snow and if they
get rode over or anything, you know, we

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can take a picture that'll be all right,
but that's still not going to help us

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when there's foot of snow on the ground.
So, I'll look into those two.

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And I talked to what is the guy's name?
Sility guy. Jason.

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» Yes.
>> I talked to him

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yesterday.

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And we got a couple other things to look
into, too.

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The water extension project is going
slow, but good.

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haven't hit anything. So,
that's a plus.

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We got the water asset management
completed and sent in.

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Our new wastewater permit is done and
sent in.

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CCR2
CCR is done and sent in.

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And the compliance plan for the
wastewater is

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we finished up the die testing and stuff
like that. So it's done and sent in too.

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» That's this
waterhead.

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» Yeah.
>> So Steve, you need to sign this.

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Yeah. Can I get one of those? Is this
fine?

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» Claim not.
>> Wait a minute. open

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» and those quotes.

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I can get
all that stuff for 1,500 bucks. And I

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need the 4-in valve now. And I need I
can use these two clamps anytime, too.

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So, all the other stuff would be free.
And it's over 10 grand. And them was the

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prices from two years ago out of Blue
Book. So,

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» how do you get them so cheap?
>> Guy bought them at an auction. The whole

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corner. He said, "If you want it, you
take it all. 1,500 bucks."

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» How do we pay for it?
>> Just have to write a check.

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» The only thing that's not two years old
is the the 4 inch because I just bought

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one. I know how much that was. I wasn't
going to call him on all these. I just

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looked up blue book and that's the in
blue book. Just like these 3/4 inch shut

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off valves, they're 66 bucks a piece.
1320. There's over 20 of them. So that's

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1320 just for those 3/4 inch valves. And
that was two years ago. So they're

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probably twice that now.

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» So assume he he would invoice you.
>> Yeah, he'll do whatever.

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» Invoices. sitting in.
>> I got the pictures of everything. If you

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want to see the pictures of everything,
but I mean, all of it's new, but this

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post valve is used, but still good,
which I doubt we ever use that, but he

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said if you buy it, you get all of it.
And um there's a 6-in gate valve that's

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used that we could use in the plant. You
just store it. It's for indoors. It's

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not for out in your system.
So, and it's 1,800 for it.

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» So, I would need a W9.
>> Okay.

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» If they approve it,
>> I'll make a motion we buy this stuff.

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» That's no brainer.

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And I think he has a presentation on
>> and um

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think we can order us more of those
yellow shirts, farmland ones. Ours are

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all That was like four or five years ago
when we got them. So they're all gone.

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» I don't know where we got them through
or anything.

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» Yeah, there was a shop.

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She's still in business. She just
doesn't have her house.

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» Do what?
>> She's still in business. She just

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doesn't have her house.
>> Oh, okay.

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» Yeah. I I like seeing the employees
where

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» it identifies them when they're out on
the street. People know that they're

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» going through their yard or whatever.
>> Identifies them an employee

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city town.
I'll make a motion that we purchase

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those t-shirts for.

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» Okay. But they also get clothing
allowance, too.

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» Well, but that doesn't cover the pants
or boots or

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» Okay. How many shirts you want?
>> How many did we get the last time?

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No, I think there was

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three or four piece cuz I had orange and
and the yellow. One orange and I think

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three yellows. But I don't Well, I'll
just go with the yellows.

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However many. It doesn't matter.
>> Four a piece.

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» That's good for me.

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I made a motion.
>> I second it.

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» Oh, okay.
Okay.

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Is that

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» Hey, gentlemen. Do it.
Depends on how much talking.

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» Well, I'll be brief this time because we
talked about it a lot last time. Um

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um so
last time I was here with you guys

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talked about um putting together
something so that we could come back and

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tell you what we could do for you. U a
little bit of a little bit has changed

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since uh I did a little bit of research,
made some calls and everything. SRF

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doesn't have a per for you guys. So
there's no per that's been finished yet.

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It does sound like your current engineer
is still working on some stuff. Um,

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based on the schedule that you guys are
uh turning into

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uh IDM, right? So the schedule you guys
are turning into IDM. It sounds like

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they are working on a lagoon
rehabilitation thing.

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But also on that same schedule they talk
about

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doing some work on let's see what page
it was on I highlighted on my copy. Um,

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so it looks like finishing up 81 they're
going to have mechanical treatment plant

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for farmland only and mechanical
treatment plant for Parker City and the

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town of farmland.
Um, but then previous in the schedule

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they said that the regional one didn't
seem like it was going to be a

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viability, but they're still trying to
work it out to see if you guys and

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Parker City can work together on
whatever that is. I know that's not what

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you want, but that's what they're
proposing to ID, right? Um,

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and then they've got somewhere down
here, evaluate the post collection

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system improvements for the lagoon, but
they've got all everything crossed out

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because it said wastewater treatment
plant collection system. They're running

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concurrent, I guess. So, they must be
submitting a schedule to IDM with both

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your collection system upgrades and your
wastewater treatment plan upgrades. It

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seems like based on the schedule that
they have here. Um, I don't know what

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their lagoon rehabilitation option is
that they're proposing. It seems like

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they're going to do one of them. What
what I'm proposing to you is that we

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look at probably up to three options.
There's about five different things that

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you could do. There's probably two of
those at least. I'm assuming that might

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not be viable when we're looking at uh
or might not be viable for you guys,

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right? So, you may there may be some
like bio augmentation. That's usually if

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you're missing limits or something like
that. You guys aren't missing limits.

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You're just over capacity. So, what we'd
be looking at is how do we expand the

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capacity of it? And then what is IDM
gonna allow you guys to do in that

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expansion capacity? Obviously, they're
probably going to let you dig a bigger

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lagoon if you wanted to do it, they're
probably going to let you add some type

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of mechanical treatment, not as much as
a mechanical treatment plant, but some

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type of mechanical process to it,
irration or whatnot like we talked

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about. Um, you would talk to the people
at Coalen. We'd probably look at an

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option like that. Um, so we'd be a we'd
be able to look at some stuff like that

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for you guys,
but to write that addendum, we're going

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to need some of the information in the
per. So, while there is some cost

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associated with it, not in the copy that
you guys have, but like I've done a

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manhour estimate for it, um, we really
can't begin starting on the work until

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you guys really have the peer because
they've already done some of the

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background work for getting that stuff.
And

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just being honest, it's going to be a
little weird if you ask them for some of

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the information so that another engineer
can be in working on it while you're

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still under contract with them. So, not
trying to get you guys in a pickle

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there.
>> Um,

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I can also say that based on the
schedule that they have here, it looks

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like they're planning on just reading
the schedule, having worked with Fleece

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and Vandenber in the past. Uh it looks
like they're going to begin

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design
at the beginning of next year, which

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means that they're probably at some
point in time going to come to one of

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your guys meetings and say, "Hey, it's
time for us to get started on design.

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Let's go ahead and execute a ban bond
anticipation note. Have you guys done

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one of those before? It's called interim
financing.

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It's where you go to the bank and you
say, "Hey, we're going to do a project.

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It's going to be about this much money,
but we need a little bit of the money up

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front to begin on the design works." you
can start paying them. That's not

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uncommon for engineers to do to be able
to get ahead of the curve and start

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doing the design early. I'm just letting
you guys know so that you guys don't

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execute anything you're not ready to
execute. Once you do something like that

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next to contract with them, you're going
to be locked in with them. So that's

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your choice to make obviously, but
that's probably what's going to happen

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toward the end of this year in the next
Sorry, I got to do quick math in my

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head. Next five months, right? So,
um, so because they have survey

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beginning 11207, either you guys are a
paying for that out of pocket or b

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they're going to try to get you guys to
do a bond anticipation note through your

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financial advisor um or interim
financing. They're going to call it one

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of those two things, a ban or interim
financing. Um,

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that being said, you can also do that
with another design firm if you wanted

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to. That's an opportunity to select a
design firm that you want to work on

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your design. But of course, you want to
know what you're going to do in your

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design when you get to that point. This
is probably what I have proposed to you

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guys, the proposal that you have in
front of you. You know, we would want to

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do that.
We would want to do that work so that we

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were ready to submit the SRF project by
the SRF deadline of next year. So, we'd

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be able to submit for funding for you
guys. Does that make sense?

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» Um,
if you wanted to start design earlier

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than that, we could probably shorten our
time window because there's not a

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there's not a ton of effort that needs
to get done. We just stretched it out so

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that we'd have more time to kind of kick
stuff back and forth. Um but uh you know

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if you if you wanted to move on with
design early to get off your ban uh

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sewer ban not upon anticipation note
different ban um but if you guys want to

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get off your sewer ban sooner and you
want to start on design and everything

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with an effort to try to start into the
construction season of next year which

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is going to be like after March right
>> what's that [laughter]

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» after March of next year is when
construction season kind of starts right

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when the ground falls out. Yeah. So, you
can't really do much more before that.

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You can do some survey and stuff, but
there's not a lot of construction

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companies that are going to start
digging in January. So,

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» um that looks like what their schedule
and everything they have, you know,

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based on and on this schedule that that
your engineer gave you. Um you know,

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they've got bidding, fund closing,
they've award, they have construction

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starting in 111 2028. That's probably
like mobilization. So that's at the

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beginning of next next year, two years
from now.

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» Wow.
>> Which is when they have it. But that's

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probably So when they have bidding and
everything, that's probably because fund

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closing is in 91 2027 in September of
next year. That's probably if you were

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to get SRF funding, that is probably the
soonest you could probably close on it

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because they'll notify you in about
August. They want you to close in the

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earliest quarter that they can. So
that's why they're timing it like this.

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That's how you see this here. Now,
that's if you went with SRF funding, if

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you went with rural development, that
funding cycle is slightly different. If

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you went with private financing, if you
either had a local bank or a regional

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bank that you guys wanted to work with,
because rates are going to eventually

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come down,
no matter what everybody says, rates are

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eventually going to come down. And uh
you know while you can get you guys are

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in a position to get a um savings on
your rate because of the financial

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makeup of the town. Um you guys are
eligible for okra which means you're

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you're a low to moderate income over 51%
community. Um you would probably qualify

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for like a a discounted rate through
SRF. There is the potential that if you

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got funding through a private bank, it
could be underwritten by a by somebody

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like USDA and you could still get to
that discounted rate. Like that's a

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possibility. Um, no matter what you do,
obviously your payment is going to be

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determined somewhat off of your rate
because you're going to be paying

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interest on all of it, but it's also
going to be somewhat based on capital

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construction cost. you do a $2 million
project versus a $1 million project,

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you're going to pay a lot less on a $1
million project in the grand scheme of

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things. Interest and everything
included. Um,

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so that all being said, I brought this
proposal to you guys.

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I don't think that you guys
would want to execute anything today

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because you're still waiting on your per
uh to be submitted. So, while I also

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have a contract that you guys could
execute on, I don't think that it's a

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good time for you guys to do that, I
think you should put it off a little bit

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and wait for your engineer to get their
stuff together. It seems as though based

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on the schedule that they're going to
have the per finished 81, that's what's

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on the schedule that they're submitting
to IDM.

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00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:54,880
» Okay.
>> So, by next meeting, if that makes

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sense. Uh, then at least you'll have a
per to look at. I'll have a PE to take a

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review what their lagoon option was if
we can include that in ours or maybe

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00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,560
that can be a fourth option for you to
consider.

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00:36:05,359 --> 00:36:07,599
» Does that all make sense?
>> Yes.

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00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,119
» Okay,
>> appreciate that.

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00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:16,640
» Um
I can say that the initial cost when I

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did the main estimate was relatively
high. uh we looked at it again

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and and took a big chunk of it off
knowing that you guys already had a lot

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00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,640
of that preliminary information. Um

446
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:44,240
let's see. I don't really like to give
out costs early, but I'll do it anyway.

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00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:48,720
So, the initial cost was 65,000 when we
looked at everything. That was the cost

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00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:51,599
of us doing this study for you guys,
verifying the information, all that type

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00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:56,000
of stuff, knowing that we're going to
have everything. We knocked 15,000 off

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00:36:53,119 --> 00:37:00,560
of that, and we're right around 49,000
right now. Um, that's a lot of money.

451
00:36:59,359 --> 00:37:06,000
That's probably a lot more money than
you guys have sitting in the bank. Um,

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00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:09,920
but
for this scope that I've given you guys,

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00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:13,359
that's what we're looking at. We could
reduce the amount of scope and we can

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talk about what that is. But that gives
you something to think about over the

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next month and I can come back to you
guys next month and talk to you again if

456
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:22,240
that would be fair.
>> Yes.

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00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:27,040
» Okay.
Any questions for me?

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00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,880
Hopefully that was brief enough for you
guys. I know it was really long last

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time. So,
um I have a couple extra copies of this

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00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:40,000
because I know you're missing a council
person. So there's an extra copy for you

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00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:44,880
and then in case your lawyer wants one.
There's our proposal for that.

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00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:48,119
» Okay. Thank you, gentlemen, very much.
>> Thank you.

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00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,896
» You weren't here last time. So,
[laughter]

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» okay. claim docket for July 7th, 2026,
$166,356.71.

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00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:09,839
» I make the motion we accept that.
[clears throat]

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» All in favor?
>> I I

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resolutions and ordinances ordinance
2026-05

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amend the text of unified zones.
you have a recommendation from the area

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00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:30,480
planning commission to slightly amend
the um flood flood plan ordinance.

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00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,800
Basically what it is is required by FEMA
so that we can still get the flood

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insurance.
>> The main change is that it specifically

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lists the names of the communities. So
it's basically a red tape type of a

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change but they required us to do it. So
uh the area planning commission had a

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hearing. They favorably recommend that
these small changes be made. This is

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just to ratify that. So
>> if you want to approve it, we can do we

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00:38:51,839 --> 00:38:57,359
can do this on just the one reading.
>> So if you want to move to have the

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reading, I can do that.
>> I'll make the motion we have a reading.

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» Ordinance number 2026-05,
an ordinance to amend the text of the

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unified zoning ordinance of Randolph
County, Indiana.

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00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,240
» Motion approve it.
>> Second it.

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00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,560
» All in favor?
>> I I

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messed up.
I believe.

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00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:52,200
» Okay. Any citizens comments?

484
00:39:55,119 --> 00:40:03,880
Nothing. Okay. Next town council meeting
will be held August 4th at 6 p.m.

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Meetings.

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00:40:11,839 --> 00:40:15,079
» I know.

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December.

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00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:47,163
» Not completely yet.
[music]

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See you, brother.
>> Thank you, gentlemen, very much.

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00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:11,119
» Marcy sent me an email, you know, and I
even asked her. I was like, well, you

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00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:15,599
know, do you still want me to come? I
don't mind coming. Sure. But uh

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» so you know because you don't have your
per yet, it doesn't make a whole lot of

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sense. [music]
>> Yeah.

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» Then it also talks about the lagoon
option not being a viable option. They

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cross that out and the two things that
they're waiting on getting done. They're

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still working up the cost estimate