[0:03] I stand for the pledge, please.
[0:10] To the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for it
[0:15] stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice
[0:21] for all.
[0:37] Okay. Uh, July 7th, 2026
town council meeting.
[0:45] » Yeah. You had a chance to read the
minutes?
[0:47] » I have. I'll make a motion that we
accept them as presented.
[0:52] » I'll second it. All in favor? I
>> I
[0:57] make reconciliation for May 2020 20 26
>> I went over it signed it so I make a
[1:05] motion we accept it as presented
>> second it all in favor
[1:10] » I
>> I
[1:13] roll allowance docket for the month of
June 2026
[1:18] » make a motion we accept it
>> all in favor
[1:20] » I
>> I
[1:23] over Time for
[1:41] sleep
[1:44] overtime for the month of June 2026.
>> Did I miss it?
[2:00] I don't have a copy of it. Do you?
>> Yes, you do.
[2:30] Make a motion we accept it as presented.
>> Second.
[2:35] » All in favor? I
>> I
[2:39] city building Tim installed GPS units.
Need to get with
[2:46] Samarah to discuss options for fire
trucks with the three units. Did not
[2:52] have the correct gloves.
[2:57] » We took them out. What happened to
engine 31?
[3:00] Engine 31 and Engine 32 both fell on
their face. [snorts]
[3:07] Um, all GPS units are yanked out
currently.
[3:12] And um, engine 32 Selki told me to cycle
the computer several times, see if it
[3:21] works. If not, bring it in. They'll work
on it. But 31, uh, the Sam unit requires
[3:27] two volts. transmission takes five and
the way it was hooked up
[3:32] um it robbed the bolts away from the
transmission that's why it fell on space
[3:37] and would not pump. So currently nothing
is installed
[3:43] » but it is re the engine is repaired.
>> Yeah, there's a bill they charge us for
[3:48] repairing it.
>> Okay.
[3:51] Do you know how much?
[3:57] » Yes.
[4:06] And I do know when
was it 38?
[4:10] » You said all the trucks that have that
master switch could create problems.
[4:16] » There you go.
>> Because it kills the power to
[4:18] everything. That's the whole point of
the master switch.
[4:20] » Yeah.
>> In 38, he couldn't hardly get it to
[4:22] cycle at all.
>> As far as when he turned it on, the GPS
[4:26] unit wouldn't come up.
[4:35] $675.52.
>> Okay.
[4:39] I was asked if that was going to fall
back to the fire department and I don't
[4:44] think it should. I think it the town
should may not have.
[4:48] » We have a credit with sulking right now.
It's not going to go against the fire
[4:50] department.
>> Okay. We have a credit.
[4:52] » Yeah.
>> Okay.
[4:58] Okay, we have four banners ordered in
here.
[5:00] » Wait, let's
So,
[5:05] we've installed these, but there's never
been
[5:11] a formal policy
adopted
[5:17] for the employees to know and why
they're there and why they're being
[5:22] used. We've never We've never adopted a
policy.
[5:27] We looked at one.
>> You guys looked at one, but you didn't.
[5:30] » But but it was tabled or something. We'd
never
[5:34] » And I think
that should have happened before they
[5:38] were installed, but
[5:43] » So, you want me to have it for the next
meeting?
[5:46] » Yeah, I we should have had it tonight,
but
[6:02] We got four.
>> So, how are we going to
[6:07] correct this or do we need to just leave
them off the fire trucks that have the
[6:13] the master switch?
We can't.
[6:18] Sam Sarah will not work that way.
[6:24] » Well, we can't we can't keep taking
these trucks out of service either.
[6:29] » Let me give them a call and let me talk
to them because there they have units
[6:33] that don't hook into your engine. What
all that means is it's not going to read
[6:37] all your engine stuff, all your
cuz you can see how much gas is in one
[6:44] of the vehicles. You can see when their
oil needs changed. All that's what is in
[6:49] the plug right now. But they have units
that do not do that. And I think that's
[6:53] what we could put on the fire trucks if
you want that. But let me talk to him so
[6:57] I can talk intelligent about it.
[7:06] » I guess
[7:21] Have there been any issues with any of
the other vehicles?
[7:27] » No.
>> Any other?
[7:31] » I just drove my dump truck today, so for
the first time. So, I don't know. It
[7:34] worked fine. It has it doesn't have a
master switch, but it has the same type
[7:37] of transmission. So,
>> didn't have any issue.
[7:41] » Not today. Okay. That's the first time I
drove it
[7:43] » around. We I moved some stuff around and
got in a new building. So,
[7:51] » okay. I guess
>> and I don't have anything hooked up fire
[7:55] station. I yanked them all out because I
I didn't want the liability on me and
[7:59] I'm sure they would have put on you guys
if we have a truck going down the
[8:01] middle.
>> My son was driving it Saturday.
[8:05] and then limp it back to the fire
station with zero power.
[8:10] That's a hell of a liability.
>> Yeah.
[8:13] » Burn somebody's house down.
[8:21] » We have four banners ordered. Need one
more to create an order.
[8:26] » Five. We need it now.
>> How long will it take if you get that
[8:30] big one to make them? It'll just take a
couple weeks after they get approved.
[8:35] » Okay.
[8:41] » Electronic sign in progress. Waiting on
Joe for electrical information.
[8:46] » Joe came today. He looked at he looked
at all the um electrical stuff. He says
[8:51] he'll have to run two new lines from our
box in here. Um two dedicated lines
[8:57] because that's what it requires.
and he doesn't see a problem with it.
[9:02] They told me not to move forward with
the electrical until they get the
[9:05] approval from the county for
[9:10] permit.
[9:14] » So,
>> Joe's not doing anything else.
[9:16] » Area plan.
>> Area plan.
[9:25] » Need to appoint a new edit
representative.
[9:30] I will step up and take that position.
Well, I will. I'll volunteer.
[9:45] » I'll send your information to Laura
then.
[9:47] » Okay.
[9:51] Autumn
from 704 North Perley asking the town to
[9:56] put up a sign at her rental house for
her autistic child.
[10:04] Well, she was supposed to be here, but
[10:15] » don't think it'd be a bad thing, but
>> then you might be putting them all over
[10:19] town.
>> Yeah.
[10:21] » Yeah, that'd be the trouble.
>> And the reason I put rental house, I
[10:25] mean, she who knows how long they're
going to live there.
[10:27] » Okay.
>> We'd have to pay for post a sign and
[10:31] » put in their yard.
We're responsible for it. She moves
[10:35] tomorrow. Mhm. I mean, and then I mean,
I'm not saying I'm not against it, but
[10:39] no,
>> we're going to be putting it on every
[10:40] road, every house, like you know,
[10:47] [snorts]
[10:51] » that in knowledge, I'd like to just say
no.
[10:55] [snorts]
[10:57] Unless
they want to pay for the sign and
[11:02] » there's a formal request we have to
>> Yeah.
[11:05] » Yeah. Just table. [clears throat]
>> Yeah. She she called and
[11:08] » want to be on the agenda and she's not
here.
[11:10] » She's not here. So,
>> okay.
[11:11] » Table it.
[11:17] » Marcia conference in Michigan City July
16th. I mean 12th to 16th.
[11:32] letter from an attorney concerning
property damage.
[11:36] » Andy,
you want to tell Jason about that?
[11:40] Because I told Jason it wasn't even this
property that they have on this letter.
[11:43] » Yeah. Yeah. It's not even that property
across the street down one. So, we've
[11:50] not even dug on. How about I just
respond until ask them to provide
[11:54] verification of the damage and go from
there.
[12:13] Discuss a park board to be created,
a plan, and submit to the town boards
[12:21] for approval.
[12:29] » Was there one in the past?
>> There was one in the past.
[12:33] » How many were on it?
>> I think three, but I'm not positive.
[12:37] Three or four.
[12:46] Got one.
>> Got one right there.
[12:48] » Yeah.
>> President right there.
[12:57] » You can be the ring leader.
[laughter]
[13:00] » I spoke to her after the last meeting
and
[13:02] » you need to find you more.
>> I'm willing. I'll help her. Like I told
[13:05] her, I'll help her if she needs
anything. She can just come one of us
[13:08] and we would help her during the day or
something if she needs supplies or
[13:11] something. So, I've already reached out
to her to, you know, offer that hand if
[13:15] she needed it.
>> I got one in a pos.
[13:17] [clears throat and snorts]
>> I mean, I'm willing to go down and do
[13:20] physical labor
and
[13:24] » Saturday guy that needs to work off some
stuff, too. So,
[13:27] » Saturday,
>> no,
[13:30] he's he's needs to work off some stuff
for us. So, he would be willing to help
[13:34] out.
>> Saturday morning that she had couple
[13:37] others that are willing to to help. And
I think
[13:41] Maybe one of them would even I think
she'd probably sat on the board too if
[13:45] you
>> Yeah, she would probably.
[13:49] » Okay, I can move forward.
>> You can move forward.
[13:53] » I just I just need a plan so I know
the spending thing. I can't let you guys
[13:58] go over to the hardware store and just
buy anything. You have to come through
[14:00] us and just let it work that way.
Even [snorts] though it's the $3,000
[14:05] from the grant, I still need to allocate
where it goes.
[14:10] » Okay.
[14:13] I'd like to discuss something as far as
with with the parks. Um
[14:20] July the 4th,
and I talked a little bit to you, Jeff.
[14:25] Um, permission was given to go down and
set fireworks off at the Bulld.
[14:34] First of all, they just they had the
whole bull diamond. They could have used
[14:37] it. They used the parking lot right next
to the house there and ended up setting
[14:42] fireworks off on houses and everything
else. However, I did look and there's an
[14:48] ordinance that prevents fireworks in the
in the parks.
[14:53] And so I think in the future we need to
[14:59] enforce that or you know I think it
left.
[15:02] » Who gave permission?
>> Huh?
[15:03] » Who gave permission?
>> Apparently
[15:06] » it's not me.
>> Okay. I just talked to Jeff that night
[15:11] during it. I thought it it left us in a
real We could have been in a real legal
[15:17] problem there. Somebody hurt or burn the
house down or something. So, uh, there
[15:23] is an ordinance. So, I I guess we would
treat the ball diamond and that same as
[15:28] we would the park
and that ordinance. So,
[15:45] it's all
>> okay.
[15:49] store confirm USA
[16:10] had 22 calls for the month of June. We
assisted the medics six times, fire
[16:15] department twice, had two or three
welfare checks and two thefts
[16:20] and only one juvenile problem. So, see,
it got better.
[16:26] Supposed to be here the end of the month
to pave is what I was told. So,
[16:31] hopefully his project is done or at
least the roads cut before they get
[16:35] here.
[16:38] Okay,
>> we need to do something.
[16:42] » How much How much of that down there are
we doing that?
[16:44] » All the way around.
>> All the way around there.
[16:45] » Yeah.
>> Up up up
[16:48] up up anyway from the square down there.
>> Mberry Street any?
[16:52] » No,
>> just around the square.
[16:54] » Just just a horseshoe.
>> Yeah.
[16:57] » I think we need to look at Malbury down
there at Mandy's
[17:01] and whatever needs to to get it fixed
because it's just getting bigger. We're
[17:06] going to lose that.
>> It's from the trash trucks.
[17:08] » Yeah, but we need to fix it.
>> I'll give quotes cuz they're going to
[17:12] tear the road out.
>> Yeah, we're going to cut it out. But the
[17:17] longer we go, the bigger it's getting.
So, I think we need to
[17:21] » That road's been our best road.
>> Yeah.
[17:23] » So,
we'll get some pricing on it.
[17:30] And as far as for the fire department,
we have 14 first responder runs, seven
[17:34] rescue calls, and five fire calls.
>> That's the only thing I have other than
[17:39] the GPS.
[17:46] » Utilities
[17:50] [clears throat]
[17:53] » make adjustments first.
Last month's leak adjustments were
[17:58] $2,5840.
[18:02] » So the reason there's two for each of
those is because of
[18:06] » you guys approved it at the last meeting
to do because it went over three months.
[18:08] » Yeah. Yeah.
>> Make a motion we approve that.
[18:15] » All in favor?
>> I
[18:22] got my report, but it's pretty much the
same thing. I'll make a motion we accept
[18:27] it as presented read.
[18:31] » All in favor?
>> I
[18:33] » I
[18:36] [snorts]
lagoon. You want to wait that
[18:39] » lagoon
>> till I'm done and let him go.
[18:51] » That'll be all right.
>> Oh, I'm not the boss. Sure.
[18:56] » And
the fill station and meter and stuff. I
[19:00] still still looking into that. We need
to table that one more time.
[19:04] » Okay.
[19:08] » Same thing with the lateral inspections.
>> India did pull a Union City's ordinance
[19:15] and a little summary of that for you to
look at to see what they do.
[19:18] » I'll give you a copy.
>> That shows how theirs is worded.
[19:21] » Okay.
I just want to talk to some more towns
[19:26] that do it and see
>> that way.
[19:28] » They've been doing it for several years
and I think they've got the system down.
[19:31] So, if you're going to do it, I don't
see why we'd want to reinvent the wheel.
[19:35] » Yeah, exactly.
[19:44] So, some pump compliance will be mailed
out.
[19:48] » I didn't Yes, I didn't mail it out this
time. So, it'll go out in next month's
[19:51] bill.
[19:56] » Had a first meeting with the zip ty.
Um, Alex has already been out.
[20:03] He's all over. He's ready to dive in,
but he's been busy. But he did go out
[20:08] and get all the hydrants. Put all the
hydrants on there. So, now he's going to
[20:11] go around and do the pictures. You can
put the pictures on there. So, we pull
[20:15] up a hydrant. You have the pictures.
I think we're still going to need
[20:21] two
um
[20:26] the GPS reader for like snow and if they
get rode over or anything, you know, we
[20:33] can take a picture that'll be all right,
but that's still not going to help us
[20:38] when there's foot of snow on the ground.
So, I'll look into those two.
[20:51] And I talked to what is the guy's name?
Sility guy. Jason.
[20:55] » Yes.
>> I talked to him
[21:01] yesterday.
[21:04] And we got a couple other things to look
into, too.
[21:09] The water extension project is going
slow, but good.
[21:15] haven't hit anything. So,
that's a plus.
[21:23] We got the water asset management
completed and sent in.
[21:32] Our new wastewater permit is done and
sent in.
[21:38] CCR2
CCR is done and sent in.
[21:46] And the compliance plan for the
wastewater is
[21:50] we finished up the die testing and stuff
like that. So it's done and sent in too.
[21:57] » That's this
waterhead.
[22:01] » Yeah.
>> So Steve, you need to sign this.
[22:21] Yeah. Can I get one of those? Is this
fine?
[22:33] » Claim not.
>> Wait a minute. open
[22:36] » and those quotes.
[22:43] I can get
all that stuff for 1,500 bucks. And I
[22:49] need the 4-in valve now. And I need I
can use these two clamps anytime, too.
[22:56] So, all the other stuff would be free.
And it's over 10 grand. And them was the
[23:01] prices from two years ago out of Blue
Book. So,
[23:04] » how do you get them so cheap?
>> Guy bought them at an auction. The whole
[23:08] corner. He said, "If you want it, you
take it all. 1,500 bucks."
[23:14] » How do we pay for it?
>> Just have to write a check.
[23:22] » The only thing that's not two years old
is the the 4 inch because I just bought
[23:26] one. I know how much that was. I wasn't
going to call him on all these. I just
[23:30] looked up blue book and that's the in
blue book. Just like these 3/4 inch shut
[23:37] off valves, they're 66 bucks a piece.
1320. There's over 20 of them. So that's
[23:42] 1320 just for those 3/4 inch valves. And
that was two years ago. So they're
[23:47] probably twice that now.
[23:52] » So assume he he would invoice you.
>> Yeah, he'll do whatever.
[23:57] » Invoices. sitting in.
>> I got the pictures of everything. If you
[24:02] want to see the pictures of everything,
but I mean, all of it's new, but this
[24:05] post valve is used, but still good,
which I doubt we ever use that, but he
[24:11] said if you buy it, you get all of it.
And um there's a 6-in gate valve that's
[24:17] used that we could use in the plant. You
just store it. It's for indoors. It's
[24:23] not for out in your system.
So, and it's 1,800 for it.
[24:31] » So, I would need a W9.
>> Okay.
[24:35] » If they approve it,
>> I'll make a motion we buy this stuff.
[24:40] » That's no brainer.
[24:48] And I think he has a presentation on
>> and um
[24:55] think we can order us more of those
yellow shirts, farmland ones. Ours are
[25:00] all That was like four or five years ago
when we got them. So they're all gone.
[25:04] » I don't know where we got them through
or anything.
[25:06] » Yeah, there was a shop.
[25:11] She's still in business. She just
doesn't have her house.
[25:14] » Do what?
>> She's still in business. She just
[25:15] doesn't have her house.
>> Oh, okay.
[25:19] » Yeah. I I like seeing the employees
where
[25:22] » it identifies them when they're out on
the street. People know that they're
[25:26] » going through their yard or whatever.
>> Identifies them an employee
[25:31] city town.
I'll make a motion that we purchase
[25:36] those t-shirts for.
[25:44] » Okay. But they also get clothing
allowance, too.
[25:48] » Well, but that doesn't cover the pants
or boots or
[25:51] » Okay. How many shirts you want?
>> How many did we get the last time?
[25:57] No, I think there was
[26:02] three or four piece cuz I had orange and
and the yellow. One orange and I think
[26:08] three yellows. But I don't Well, I'll
just go with the yellows.
[26:14] However many. It doesn't matter.
>> Four a piece.
[26:18] » That's good for me.
[26:28] I made a motion.
>> I second it.
[26:31] » Oh, okay.
Okay.
[26:35] Is that
[26:40] » Hey, gentlemen. Do it.
Depends on how much talking.
[26:45] » Well, I'll be brief this time because we
talked about it a lot last time. Um
[26:54] um so
last time I was here with you guys
[26:59] talked about um putting together
something so that we could come back and
[27:04] tell you what we could do for you. U a
little bit of a little bit has changed
[27:08] since uh I did a little bit of research,
made some calls and everything. SRF
[27:13] doesn't have a per for you guys. So
there's no per that's been finished yet.
[27:17] It does sound like your current engineer
is still working on some stuff. Um,
[27:25] based on the schedule that you guys are
uh turning into
[27:30] uh IDM, right? So the schedule you guys
are turning into IDM. It sounds like
[27:34] they are working on a lagoon
rehabilitation thing.
[27:39] But also on that same schedule they talk
about
[27:43] doing some work on let's see what page
it was on I highlighted on my copy. Um,
[27:51] so it looks like finishing up 81 they're
going to have mechanical treatment plant
[27:58] for farmland only and mechanical
treatment plant for Parker City and the
[28:01] town of farmland.
Um, but then previous in the schedule
[28:05] they said that the regional one didn't
seem like it was going to be a
[28:09] viability, but they're still trying to
work it out to see if you guys and
[28:12] Parker City can work together on
whatever that is. I know that's not what
[28:15] you want, but that's what they're
proposing to ID, right? Um,
[28:21] and then they've got somewhere down
here, evaluate the post collection
[28:25] system improvements for the lagoon, but
they've got all everything crossed out
[28:29] because it said wastewater treatment
plant collection system. They're running
[28:33] concurrent, I guess. So, they must be
submitting a schedule to IDM with both
[28:38] your collection system upgrades and your
wastewater treatment plan upgrades. It
[28:40] seems like based on the schedule that
they have here. Um, I don't know what
[28:44] their lagoon rehabilitation option is
that they're proposing. It seems like
[28:47] they're going to do one of them. What
what I'm proposing to you is that we
[28:50] look at probably up to three options.
There's about five different things that
[28:54] you could do. There's probably two of
those at least. I'm assuming that might
[28:58] not be viable when we're looking at uh
or might not be viable for you guys,
[29:02] right? So, you may there may be some
like bio augmentation. That's usually if
[29:06] you're missing limits or something like
that. You guys aren't missing limits.
[29:09] You're just over capacity. So, what we'd
be looking at is how do we expand the
[29:13] capacity of it? And then what is IDM
gonna allow you guys to do in that
[29:17] expansion capacity? Obviously, they're
probably going to let you dig a bigger
[29:20] lagoon if you wanted to do it, they're
probably going to let you add some type
[29:23] of mechanical treatment, not as much as
a mechanical treatment plant, but some
[29:27] type of mechanical process to it,
irration or whatnot like we talked
[29:30] about. Um, you would talk to the people
at Coalen. We'd probably look at an
[29:35] option like that. Um, so we'd be a we'd
be able to look at some stuff like that
[29:40] for you guys,
but to write that addendum, we're going
[29:44] to need some of the information in the
per. So, while there is some cost
[29:48] associated with it, not in the copy that
you guys have, but like I've done a
[29:51] manhour estimate for it, um, we really
can't begin starting on the work until
[29:56] you guys really have the peer because
they've already done some of the
[30:00] background work for getting that stuff.
And
[30:04] just being honest, it's going to be a
little weird if you ask them for some of
[30:07] the information so that another engineer
can be in working on it while you're
[30:10] still under contract with them. So, not
trying to get you guys in a pickle
[30:13] there.
>> Um,
[30:17] I can also say that based on the
schedule that they have here, it looks
[30:22] like they're planning on just reading
the schedule, having worked with Fleece
[30:26] and Vandenber in the past. Uh it looks
like they're going to begin
[30:31] design
at the beginning of next year, which
[30:36] means that they're probably at some
point in time going to come to one of
[30:38] your guys meetings and say, "Hey, it's
time for us to get started on design.
[30:41] Let's go ahead and execute a ban bond
anticipation note. Have you guys done
[30:45] one of those before? It's called interim
financing.
[30:48] It's where you go to the bank and you
say, "Hey, we're going to do a project.
[30:52] It's going to be about this much money,
but we need a little bit of the money up
[30:55] front to begin on the design works." you
can start paying them. That's not
[30:58] uncommon for engineers to do to be able
to get ahead of the curve and start
[31:02] doing the design early. I'm just letting
you guys know so that you guys don't
[31:06] execute anything you're not ready to
execute. Once you do something like that
[31:09] next to contract with them, you're going
to be locked in with them. So that's
[31:14] your choice to make obviously, but
that's probably what's going to happen
[31:16] toward the end of this year in the next
Sorry, I got to do quick math in my
[31:21] head. Next five months, right? So,
um, so because they have survey
[31:27] beginning 11207, either you guys are a
paying for that out of pocket or b
[31:32] they're going to try to get you guys to
do a bond anticipation note through your
[31:35] financial advisor um or interim
financing. They're going to call it one
[31:39] of those two things, a ban or interim
financing. Um,
[31:44] that being said, you can also do that
with another design firm if you wanted
[31:47] to. That's an opportunity to select a
design firm that you want to work on
[31:51] your design. But of course, you want to
know what you're going to do in your
[31:54] design when you get to that point. This
is probably what I have proposed to you
[31:59] guys, the proposal that you have in
front of you. You know, we would want to
[32:03] do that.
We would want to do that work so that we
[32:07] were ready to submit the SRF project by
the SRF deadline of next year. So, we'd
[32:14] be able to submit for funding for you
guys. Does that make sense?
[32:18] » Um,
if you wanted to start design earlier
[32:21] than that, we could probably shorten our
time window because there's not a
[32:25] there's not a ton of effort that needs
to get done. We just stretched it out so
[32:29] that we'd have more time to kind of kick
stuff back and forth. Um but uh you know
[32:36] if you if you wanted to move on with
design early to get off your ban uh
[32:40] sewer ban not upon anticipation note
different ban um but if you guys want to
[32:44] get off your sewer ban sooner and you
want to start on design and everything
[32:47] with an effort to try to start into the
construction season of next year which
[32:51] is going to be like after March right
>> what's that [laughter]
[32:56] » after March of next year is when
construction season kind of starts right
[33:00] when the ground falls out. Yeah. So, you
can't really do much more before that.
[33:03] You can do some survey and stuff, but
there's not a lot of construction
[33:06] companies that are going to start
digging in January. So,
[33:09] » um that looks like what their schedule
and everything they have, you know,
[33:14] based on and on this schedule that that
your engineer gave you. Um you know,
[33:20] they've got bidding, fund closing,
they've award, they have construction
[33:26] starting in 111 2028. That's probably
like mobilization. So that's at the
[33:30] beginning of next next year, two years
from now.
[33:33] » Wow.
>> Which is when they have it. But that's
[33:35] probably So when they have bidding and
everything, that's probably because fund
[33:39] closing is in 91 2027 in September of
next year. That's probably if you were
[33:45] to get SRF funding, that is probably the
soonest you could probably close on it
[33:49] because they'll notify you in about
August. They want you to close in the
[33:52] earliest quarter that they can. So
that's why they're timing it like this.
[33:57] That's how you see this here. Now,
that's if you went with SRF funding, if
[34:01] you went with rural development, that
funding cycle is slightly different. If
[34:04] you went with private financing, if you
either had a local bank or a regional
[34:08] bank that you guys wanted to work with,
because rates are going to eventually
[34:12] come down,
no matter what everybody says, rates are
[34:16] eventually going to come down. And uh
you know while you can get you guys are
[34:21] in a position to get a um savings on
your rate because of the financial
[34:28] makeup of the town. Um you guys are
eligible for okra which means you're
[34:32] you're a low to moderate income over 51%
community. Um you would probably qualify
[34:38] for like a a discounted rate through
SRF. There is the potential that if you
[34:42] got funding through a private bank, it
could be underwritten by a by somebody
[34:46] like USDA and you could still get to
that discounted rate. Like that's a
[34:50] possibility. Um, no matter what you do,
obviously your payment is going to be
[34:55] determined somewhat off of your rate
because you're going to be paying
[34:58] interest on all of it, but it's also
going to be somewhat based on capital
[35:01] construction cost. you do a $2 million
project versus a $1 million project,
[35:06] you're going to pay a lot less on a $1
million project in the grand scheme of
[35:09] things. Interest and everything
included. Um,
[35:15] so that all being said, I brought this
proposal to you guys.
[35:20] I don't think that you guys
would want to execute anything today
[35:25] because you're still waiting on your per
uh to be submitted. So, while I also
[35:31] have a contract that you guys could
execute on, I don't think that it's a
[35:34] good time for you guys to do that, I
think you should put it off a little bit
[35:37] and wait for your engineer to get their
stuff together. It seems as though based
[35:42] on the schedule that they're going to
have the per finished 81, that's what's
[35:48] on the schedule that they're submitting
to IDM.
[35:50] » Okay.
>> So, by next meeting, if that makes
[35:52] sense. Uh, then at least you'll have a
per to look at. I'll have a PE to take a
[35:57] review what their lagoon option was if
we can include that in ours or maybe
[36:02] that can be a fourth option for you to
consider.
[36:05] » Does that all make sense?
>> Yes.
[36:07] » Okay,
>> appreciate that.
[36:08] » Um
I can say that the initial cost when I
[36:13] did the main estimate was relatively
high. uh we looked at it again
[36:22] and and took a big chunk of it off
knowing that you guys already had a lot
[36:28] of that preliminary information. Um
[36:37] let's see. I don't really like to give
out costs early, but I'll do it anyway.
[36:41] So, the initial cost was 65,000 when we
looked at everything. That was the cost
[36:45] of us doing this study for you guys,
verifying the information, all that type
[36:50] of stuff, knowing that we're going to
have everything. We knocked 15,000 off
[36:53] of that, and we're right around 49,000
right now. Um, that's a lot of money.
[36:59] That's probably a lot more money than
you guys have sitting in the bank. Um,
[37:04] but
for this scope that I've given you guys,
[37:08] that's what we're looking at. We could
reduce the amount of scope and we can
[37:11] talk about what that is. But that gives
you something to think about over the
[37:14] next month and I can come back to you
guys next month and talk to you again if
[37:19] that would be fair.
>> Yes.
[37:20] » Okay.
Any questions for me?
[37:25] Hopefully that was brief enough for you
guys. I know it was really long last
[37:28] time. So,
um I have a couple extra copies of this
[37:33] because I know you're missing a council
person. So there's an extra copy for you
[37:37] and then in case your lawyer wants one.
There's our proposal for that.
[37:43] » Okay. Thank you, gentlemen, very much.
>> Thank you.
[37:49] » You weren't here last time. So,
[laughter]
[37:56] » okay. claim docket for July 7th, 2026,
$166,356.71.
[38:05] » I make the motion we accept that.
[clears throat]
[38:08] » All in favor?
>> I I
[38:12] resolutions and ordinances ordinance
2026-05
[38:17] amend the text of unified zones.
you have a recommendation from the area
[38:23] planning commission to slightly amend
the um flood flood plan ordinance.
[38:27] Basically what it is is required by FEMA
so that we can still get the flood
[38:31] insurance.
>> The main change is that it specifically
[38:34] lists the names of the communities. So
it's basically a red tape type of a
[38:39] change but they required us to do it. So
uh the area planning commission had a
[38:44] hearing. They favorably recommend that
these small changes be made. This is
[38:47] just to ratify that. So
>> if you want to approve it, we can do we
[38:51] can do this on just the one reading.
>> So if you want to move to have the
[38:56] reading, I can do that.
>> I'll make the motion we have a reading.
[39:00] » Ordinance number 2026-05,
an ordinance to amend the text of the
[39:05] unified zoning ordinance of Randolph
County, Indiana.
[39:12] » Motion approve it.
>> Second it.
[39:15] » All in favor?
>> I I
[39:25] messed up.
I believe.
[39:47] » Okay. Any citizens comments?
[39:55] Nothing. Okay. Next town council meeting
will be held August 4th at 6 p.m.
[40:00] Meetings.
[40:11] » I know.
[40:19] December.
[40:41] » Not completely yet.
[music]
[40:56] See you, brother.
>> Thank you, gentlemen, very much.
[41:06] » Marcy sent me an email, you know, and I
even asked her. I was like, well, you
[41:09] know, do you still want me to come? I
don't mind coming. Sure. But uh
[41:13] » so you know because you don't have your
per yet, it doesn't make a whole lot of
[41:17] sense. [music]
>> Yeah.
[41:20] » Then it also talks about the lagoon
option not being a viable option. They
[41:24] cross that out and the two things that
they're waiting on getting done. They're
[41:29] still working up the cost estimate