[0:00] 49
>> Where's my agenda?
[0:19] » [snorts]
[0:45] » 1 minute. You ready? Okay.
[0:52] Okay, we'll call this meeting to order.
Faribault City Council meeting.
[0:56] Time is 6:30. Welcome to everyone in
attendance and those watching. I
[1:00] appreciate everyone being here.
It's summer time, so
[1:06] Um,
we will begin
[1:09] this meeting with an opening prayer by
David Jay and Katie Williams will lead
[1:15] us in the Pledge of Allegiance.
[1:20] » Our Father in heaven, as we assemble
here this evening in this City Council
[1:24] meeting, we give thee thanks for the
land we live in and the freedoms that
[1:30] allow us to to even meet this way and to
conduct the affairs of our city.
[1:35] As we do so, we ask thy blessing upon
us,
[1:38] upon our deliberations, and our council,
and our efforts, that all may lend
[1:42] itself
to good and positive outcomes,
[1:46] and that we may do what we do in harmony
with one another.
[1:49] In the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
>> Amen.
[1:52] » Please rise and repeat after me.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[1:57] United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation
[2:04] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.
[2:12] » Okay, we
um
[2:16] uh well, as we start in this meeting, um
council member uh Tim Shoop has asked
[2:21] for just a few
a few seconds to address uh address us.
[2:26] So, Tim, I'll turn some time to you.
>> Thank you, Mayor. Uh
[2:30] 2 weeks ago in our last meeting, I made
a comment with regards to
[2:34] the uh data that we have received in our
packet.
[2:38] And uh I just feel like I may have um
overstepped my bounds a little bit. I
[2:44] didn't mean to be derogatory.
I didn't mean to uh offend anyone, in
[2:50] particular the mayor or any of the city
staff. I think you guys do a great job,
[2:55] and I just did uh I wanted to apologize
if there was any offense taken.
[3:00] And uh I understand that uh a quick
phone call and I could have gotten the
[3:05] answers I needed. So,
again, I apologize for any discomfort I
[3:10] may have caused anyone.
Thank you.
[3:13] » Uh Tim, thank you. I
I had mentioned to him earlier he did
[3:18] not need to say anything. No offense was
taken.
[3:21] Um just trying to do our jobs and make
sure we have the right information, but
[3:25] uh thanks, Tim. Appreciate your
your your uh
[3:29] your comments there, and just know we
love you. Appreciate all you do.
[3:33] Um
on the agenda now is public comments.
[3:37] We'll now open the meeting for public
comments at this time. If there's any in
[3:40] the
uh with us who would like to step
[3:43] forward.
Comments? Public comments from anybody?
[3:49] Okay.
>> See none.
[3:51] » See none, we'll move forward on the
agenda to hear report hear a report from
[3:55] the planning commission from
uh Lou Best.
[4:06] » We held no regular planning commission
meeting. We had devoted our time to
[4:10] uh a joint work session as most of you
are aware with the city council.
[4:15] In my view, I thought it was a very
productive work session in which we were
[4:18] discussing the L Advantage development.
Um
[4:22] new proposal was presented to us uh that
added some additional insight from what
[4:28] we've seen in the past. It included an
elimination of townhouses
[4:33] and adding more patio homes.
Uh the number of units was reduced to
[4:37] 386.
They also added a 2-acre city park
[4:42] nestled right in the middle of where the
the town home or patio homes will be.
[4:47] Uh we discussed several items. We
discussed traffic called calming
[4:50] measures and there was general good
consensus that a four-way stop on 1300
[4:56] North would be very appropriate. It
would help a great deal to to control
[5:00] the traffic.
Uh we also discussed adding a parking
[5:05] area for
the naturescape playground area just off
[5:09] 1025 North. Seemed to be good agreement
on that.
[5:13] Uh we wanted to make sure that the
configuration of the lots under the
[5:16] power line conformed with all
requirements by uh Rocky Mountain Power.
[5:21] Um we also discussed setback
requirements for lots of various sizes.
[5:27] And I think we can come up with a plan
where we can accommodate the smaller
[5:31] high-density lots as well as retain
setbacks are very similar to what we
[5:35] have right now in R-115.
By far the greatest concern and the most
[5:41] of the discussion focused on traffic
on 1300 North.
[5:46] Um
and what that would pop problem that
[5:49] would occur if we did not have a traffic
light on that street.
[5:55] The options ranged from everything from
don't allow the development until a
[6:00] traffic light is installed to
allow the traffic light allow the
[6:06] development to occur and hope and pray
that a traffic light will be installed.
[6:11] And there were some intermediate
suggestions as well. Uh
[6:15] the mayor may comment on that, but we
left it at there's going to be
[6:18] additional dialogue with UDot to see if
we can come to some kind of a
[6:23] an arrangement or some
hint as to what we could anticipate in
[6:28] the future so that we can proceed with
our decision on this development.
[6:32] Um
>> Can I ask you something on that one?
[6:35] » Yes.
>> Um can we require to have them perform a
[6:39] traffic circulation study so we have an
accurate idea of what those counts will
[6:45] be?
>> That was brought up. Can somebody with a
[6:48] better memory than me talk comment on
where we ended up with that?
[6:52] » Yeah,
well you were there too. I can comment,
[6:54] but go ahead.
>> Well,
[6:57] they did say they would approach UDot
about this right from the onset
[7:02] uh and consider
the
[7:06] uh
density of this development
[7:09] also in concert with Legends
that those two are going to funnel into
[7:15] that same
uh
[7:18] roadway
and so the last I understand was
[7:24] he was going to make some
uh overtures to UDot
[7:28] and see at least initially you know put
a toe in the water and see what things
[7:32] feel like. There wasn't an exact
commitment to
[7:36] uh at this point traffic study because
there isn't any traffic.
[7:40] » But there
but there's not and then they can model
[7:45] and estimate what that traffic would
what that demand would be.
[7:48] » So, I'm not sure how far he was going
>> No, and I and I agree with you. I think
[7:51] where we left it is that we'll see if
UDot will do a traffic study. I don't
[7:56] believe we discussed the possibility of
us
[7:59] » Correct.
>> And I don't think I don't think UDot or
[8:02] us should do the traffic study. It
should be on the developer to provide
[8:05] that to us.
>> So,
[8:07] » And we can't I don't think in good faith
create a traffic problem from a
[8:12] development and then expect UDot to
solve it with a light.
[8:16] » And I think there was general consensus
that UDot is not going to be necessarily
[8:20] inclined to do that until they see some
level of urgency that doesn't exist.
[8:25] » Maybe I can mention the
um
[8:29] comments that were made by legal. Liam
was with us in that meeting.
[8:34] Uh becomes very hard to
[8:39] umbrella or prevent a developer from
coming in to develop property
[8:46] on
what UDot may or may not agree to do
[8:51] with their road. Even though we as a
city want it, we feel like it's needed,
[8:56] we feel like the developments of Legends
and and this new one is certainly going
[9:01] to feed into that.
Uh at the end of the day, UDot controls
[9:04] that
no matter what the developer requests or
[9:08] ask. And the developer said in that
meeting
[9:12] if this development is conditioned on
UDot's approval of a light at that
[9:18] intersection, they can't do that because
their financing will never approve it.
[9:23] » Well, that's why I think we I think that
the requirement of a traffic circulation
[9:27] study
should be
[9:29] it in the development agreement because
then right now we're just dealing in
[9:33] abstracts. We don't know. We don't know
where they're where it's going to push
[9:37] traffic to.
>> We don't know. Yeah.
[9:38] » And we don't know maybe it won't be an
issue, but it
[9:41] » Well, you got a fire station right
there, too, and that's going to be an
[9:43] issue.
>> And so I think I think
[9:46] if we could have a traffic study, that
would answer a lot of those
[9:48] » I would have to say this probably
consumed 50% of our meeting.
[9:52] » It did.
>> So I I I'm sorry.
[9:54] » And and they are getting ready to submit
the development agreement to come
[9:57] forward into the planning commission.
And these are good things to make sure
[10:01] that maybe we ask for.
>> And I really I missed it. So I I'm
[10:05] sorry.
>> thing that Liam did suggest, you know,
[10:08] in this range of possibilities
the developer wasn't excited about this
[10:12] one was that in the development
agreement we could allow them to begin
[10:17] development
and but only allow a certain amount of
[10:21] that development to occur before a
traffic light was put in.
[10:26] » So it becomes phase contained.
>> So and we've got that option. He
[10:32] I think his response was that that won't
fly with us, you know, we can't do that,
[10:36] but but we we could put that language,
protective language, in our development
[10:40] agreement if we choose.
>> I might want to mention
[10:44] the attitude I received
>> [clears throat]
[10:48] » myself from the developer was that he
was willing to do
[10:51] as much as he could
to encourage UDOT and
[10:56] um in obtaining proper
traffic flow and lights and whatever the
[11:02] case may be.
Um he wasn't objective to go on after
[11:06] that.
Uh he just was unsure about his
[11:09] financing if it became an ultimatum.
>> Yeah. So
[11:13] » I think I think there's some good
cooperation there.
[11:15] » No, and I agree with you. I I do think
we need to scrutinize very seriously the
[11:20] language in the development agreement
relative to this, though.
[11:24] Because that's our protection. I would
hate to see us open
[11:27] a monster Pandora's box traffic issue.
>> going to see it again before we do, so
[11:32] you know what to take back to the
planning commission regarding this.
[11:36] All right. You know what
>> We're all going to scrutinize that
[11:41] development agreement.
>> All right. You're going to see it first.
[11:44] » I would echo what Tim said though, this
this developer is for everyone that's
[11:48] wondering where this is at. This is the
Slater property. It's the one that is
[11:52] just to the south
west of Legends.
[11:57] Butts up next to the sewer plant in
Marion Slaterville. But this developer
[12:02] has been working with us what Lou for
about 9 months?
[12:04] » Seems like forever.
>> 6 months smart more more than 6 months.
[12:08] » And I will have to say he's been very
congenial, very cooperative.
[12:12] He's He's got a think about his bottom
line. That's his area. We've got to
[12:18] think about Far West City.
And
[12:21] » And it maybe it should be noted, I mean
all the requests that the work through
[12:25] the working sessions we've had, he's
gone from 528
[12:30] units to now 386.
Like Lou mentioned, he's removed all the
[12:36] town homes. I mean he's he's really done
a lot to do what we've asked him to do,
[12:40] so
>> Yeah, I think bottom line I'd just like
[12:43] to see us request them to provide us
with a traffic circulation study.
[12:47] » And include that as part of our
our requirement.
[12:50] » I like that. Yeah, it makes a lot of
sense.
[12:53] » That's good.
>> Okay, the only other thing we talked
[12:55] about ground color options in the
land naturescape playground area. And
[13:01] also the the installation of that that
parking area.
[13:05] I'll have to say my general observation
was that
[13:09] it was a very good productive meeting.
And I think that we reached general
[13:15] consensus on almost every issue we
could. We couldn't reach general
[13:19] consensus on the issue with the traffic
light because that's beyond our control
[13:23] right now.
[13:26] » Yeah.
>> Great summary Lou. Thank you.
[13:28] » I do have one thing for the planning
commission and for the city council.
[13:31] This came from Kevin Hall, sewer
district.
[13:35] In our development agreement, are we
going to put in
[13:38] uh
disclosure about the potential for
[13:42] noxious smells coming from the sewer
plant?
[13:45] And before warn, do a due diligence. So,
I just want to put that back into
[13:49] people's minds cuz I took a phone call
from Kevin this week.
[13:52] » And and I think the developer was open
to that.
[13:55] » Okay.
>> Yeah. But to your point though, let's
[13:58] put that language in the development
agreement.
[14:01] » Correct.
>> he's he's said all along that he'll do
[14:03] that. Let's make sure it's stated in the
development agreement.
[14:05] » And Kevin just has that concern.
>> Yeah.
[14:07] » Saves us from complaints, resident
complaints down the road.
[14:11] » Or reduce the level.
>> Yeah.
[14:16] » Any questions with that? Good for you?
Okay.
[14:18] » Thank you, Lou. Appreciate it.
[14:24] » Um okay.
[14:29] We are now Where are we? Consider
Consider approval of minutes dated June
[14:35] 4th, 2026.
Um any questions with those?
[14:42] » I just let Brianna know I was really I
was reading through those and I really
[14:46] appreciated her level of detail.
>> She did a good job. I I noticed that as
[14:49] well.
Maybe we'll make a note and let her know
[14:53] that.
>> Send her an email but if everybody else
[14:55] is connected to that, it's really nice.
[15:00] » Thanks for pointing that out, Katie.
>> I'll move to approve minutes dated June
[15:05] 4th, 2026.
>> I'll second.
[15:07] » Okay, motion by Jason and a second by
Katie. All in favor, say I.
[15:12] » I.
>> Okay, motion carries there.
[15:18] I will now entertain a motion to approve
the bills dated June 3rd, 2026.
[15:25] » 17th.
>> Oh, did I mess that up?
[15:27] June's
Yes, June 17th.
[15:31] » I did have a question
on one of the entries there.
[15:35] Uh
It was Where did it go?
[15:40] » Let me get my bills. I had them all
initialed
[15:44] somewhere.
[15:47] » It was
S W A V L L C.
[15:52] » Dang it, I left it on my desk.
>> Um
[15:58] This one right here, city office and rec
center 895.
[16:04] » Um
[16:08] When that That came up, Angie, do you
remember? I think that was something to
[16:11] do with the cleaning. They did something
to
[16:15] We can follow up on that. I That That's
not the paint one, right?
[16:20] » No, no, that's Brush Brothers.
>> Yeah, that's the where they repainted.
[16:24] So, I'm not sure what that is.
[16:28] Do we want to
We can call that out and ask them.
[16:32] » Yeah, I'm sure it's
I mean, I'm not concerned about it. I
[16:35] just just I don't have a lot to go on by
the description.
[16:37] » I don't have my notes here, either.
[16:41] Left the bills on my desk.
[16:46] You want me to go grab them? You want me
to go get them?
[16:49] You want to go grab them? That It should
be right on my desk.
[16:54] Want to come back to that item?
>> Yeah, we can come back to it.
[16:57] » Let's come back to the bills.
Um let's move forward so we're not
[17:03] holding up the meeting.
Consideration of a temporary business
[17:08] license from Blue Dragon Fireworks.
Um Jessica Lindhorf, is Jessica here?
[17:14] You Are you Are you with them?
Read through your temporary business
[17:19] license for a fireworks stand.
Right?
[17:23] » Yeah, even more so it's one of your
local citizens that has a business that
[17:26] sells the the sheds and he just called
up and said, "Hey, if I supply the shed
[17:32] and the the manpower and everything,
would you supply me the fireworks?" So,
[17:36] it's that but it's a little bit more cuz
some of your own people asked him to to
[17:39] do it, so.
Yeah, Olympus Fireworks was our original
[17:44] name. Blue Dragon Fireworks is the
current name. You might know Olympus, I
[17:47] don't know. We've been around for a
while.
[17:49] » Have you been I'm just curious. Is there
Have you heard of any state restrictions
[17:54] or anything coming out? No?
>> I think I can kind of talk to that.
[17:57] » If you can.
Go ahead.
[17:59] » I attended the the Weber County
Emergency Manager's meeting last night
[18:03] and I asked that question specifically,
what about fireworks stands and
[18:07] fireworks sales? They said there will be
no restrictions on sales. It's up to the
[18:12] individuals that purchase to be prudent
individuals. So, there's nothing that's
[18:18] going to hinder your license, nothing
that the
[18:21] the governor has proclaimed thus far.
>> Yeah, I think with the 250-year birthday
[18:26] of America, I think everybody's maybe a
little bit more patience. I'm hoping.
[18:31] Uh I talked to Layton City and um
I think he attended the same meeting and
[18:35] he said that you know, we're just
cautious of the foothills and they have
[18:39] restrictions on the foothills and areas
and I I totally agree with that. So, I'm
[18:43] » Well, they they expressed the caution
across our entire region but Chief
[18:47] Cooper said there will be no
restrictions for sale.
[18:50] » Perfect.
>> Excellent.
[18:54] » Now, I appreciate you getting your ducks
in a row and
[18:56] » Yeah, it's
>> coming in for the temporary license.
[18:58] » It was a little I mean, we usually do
this sooner but that request by him came
[19:03] like very last minute, so I said I will
do whatever I can and I appreciate you
[19:07] as a council letting us come tonight and
have this meeting, so thank you.
[19:12] » I move we approve the business license
for Blue Dragon Fireworks.
[19:17] » I'll second.
>> Okay, motion by Jason, second by who was
[19:21] the second?
>> I second it.
[19:23] » Second by Tim. All in favor say I.
>> I.
[19:27] » Okay.
>> I had a um question unrelated to your
[19:30] fireworks stand, but I saw they were
setting up one on the corner where
[19:33] Country Corner used to be.
>> Mhm.
[19:35] » Where they had the
the guy with the figurines came in and
[19:39] had the Have they reached out for a
temporary business license?
[19:42] » I We have not, no.
>> It's on me.
[19:45] » It's on me. We go shut them down?
>> I don't know. What do we do? I don't
[19:49] know what the process is.
>> Being on that side sometimes, obviously,
[19:52] I would love it as competition, but no,
I mean anything you do to be lenient to
[19:55] it or it's it's crazy time of year and
we all are losing our minds.
[19:59] » It's been on that corner every year, I
think.
[20:00] » Yeah. I actually had that corner
originally and then I sold my business
[20:05] to somebody local and they have been
running it for years, but I I was the
[20:10] original person on that corner. And
maybe one day I'll be back. We'll see.
[20:14] So.
Anything else?
[20:16] » Nope, thank you.
>> Anytime. Thank you.
[20:18] » Thanks for being in our city to do that.
[20:25] » Okay.
>> Yep.
[20:27] » Thank you.
>> Thank you for Thanks for being here.
[20:30] » Don't burn us down.
[20:35] » Um well, since that, maybe I'll take a
second.
[20:39] We had a neighbor over a resident on Far
West Drive
[20:45] that's is a little concerned with
um potential
[20:50] fireworks being shot off by residents
in that area that could potentially
[20:57] impact
or
[21:00] catch hay on fire.
Um
[21:05] I
I mean, I don't
[21:08] There's nothing for I mean, short of the
city I mean, the city really doesn't
[21:12] have the ability to come in and shut
that down legally.
[21:17] So,
I just sympathized with the resident and
[21:21] said, "I know, you know, well, we can
ask the we can ask the sheriff to patrol
[21:25] to make sure no illegal fireworks are
being shot off, but then I looked at the
[21:30] ordinance for what it legal is now in
Utah." And they're shooting 150 ft in
[21:34] the air.
So, I don't know. Do Do we do anything
[21:37] about Do we say anything? Is there
anything to do there?
[21:40] » I think the only thing that
>> Use
[21:43] the neighborhood as the enforcement and
just use
[21:48] common sense. Tell them just be careful.
>> Be careful. Be attentive.
[21:50] » Be attentive if something sparks up.
>> And what was kind of recommended was
[21:54] have hoses and/or sprinklers available
if you're going to set them off so you
[21:58] can put them out if something happens or
at least minimize the burn until the
[22:02] fire department can arrive, but do not
fight fire.
[22:05] » But, we don't have any permission to go
in and tell neighbors they can't light
[22:09] off fireworks.
>> Fire The fire department doesn't either.
[22:12] » Nor would
>> Not at this point.
[22:14] » think we would want to do that.
>> No.
[22:16] » Yeah, I'm looking at her. I don't think
we really have
[22:20] um any regulations or code related to
fireworks either just that they can't
[22:26] discharge them in a park.
So,
[22:30] I mean, as long I I I think the only
thing that would be enforceable would be
[22:33] the the quiet, you know, the
noise ordinance if they're doing them at
[22:39] after hours.
>> That would be all, right? Okay.
[22:44] » That wouldn't be
>> That's kind of what I figured.
[22:45] » That wouldn't be a bad thing to remind
people of cuz I think that gets
[22:49] especially as it gets later in the
evening.
[22:52] » Yeah.
>> Uh but we also have those fire buckets
[22:54] that were provided for us, which
>> Hey, good time to bring that up.
[22:58] » That's going to be a slightly different
problem.
[23:00] » Talk in louder and tell everybody about
the buckets.
[23:03] Can can you hear me now?
We have the free buckets that were
[23:07] provided was it by the fire department?
They brought in it's a 5-gallon bucket.
[23:12] If nothing else, it's a free 5-gallon
bucket. But the idea is it's a place to
[23:16] put your fireworks.
You fill it with water, put your used
[23:19] fireworks in there to to cool them down
and drench them. So should help reduce
[23:25] at least ground fire.
>> They don't go in trash cans.
[23:28] » But
But there's those for free and then also
[23:31] just you know, remember be respectful.
>> Good good reminder.
[23:36] Let's go back up to the bills because I
don't or I'm going to forget that. So on
[23:42] my sheet
the you're talking about Swab LLC for
[23:48] 895.
This is the monthly cost for our
[23:52] janitors that provide our twice weekly
cleaning to the rec center and city
[23:57] hall.
>> Great. Thank you so for doing that.
[23:59] » Yeah.
>> I'll make a motion that we pay the
[24:02] bills.
>> I'll second the motion.
[24:03] » Okay, motion by Katie a second by Bob.
All All in favor say I.
[24:09] » I.
>> Any opposed?
[24:12] Okay, bills have been approved.
Next item there consideration of public
[24:17] works facility
phase three that's currently ongoing.
[24:22] You've probably noticed.
This is a change order. So
[24:26] just so everyone
watching and and everyone that's here
[24:30] knows public
our public works building contract a
[24:35] change order came in
due to the need to install and upgrade a
[24:39] new primary
power system that requires a 600 amp
[24:43] service on site. This
This change order included the
[24:47] enclosure, the installation and the
connection. We asked for two bids just
[24:52] to ensure that we were in line. This was
the cheaper of the two.
[24:57] This is regarding the email that was
sent out about a month ago to the
[25:01] council.
Just so we didn't have to slow down any
[25:05] work, we asked for approval to move
forward.
[25:08] It was approved unanimously. So this is
just ratifying that approval.
[25:13] For the record, the amount of the change
order was 28,500
[25:17] dollars with the potential of
10 to 15,000 from Rocky Mountain Power
[25:23] once they connect.
I get that right, Cody?
[25:29] Okay. Any questions?
>> No.
[25:32] I'll motion that
we ratify and approve the public works
[25:37] facility phase three change order.
>> I'll second the motion.
[25:41] » Okay, a motion by Bob and a second by
Dave. All in favor say I.
[25:47] Any opposed?
Okay. Thank you.
[25:50] » [clears throat]
[25:53] » Okay.
[25:56] Now, this is where Cody is earning his
paycheck this month.
[26:01] We
will now discuss adjustments to the 2025
[26:06] 26 budget.
Concerning the adjustments for the new
[26:10] fiscal year, and Cody will come up and
explain that to us. Thanks, Cody, for
[26:15] being here.
>> Oh yeah, you bet. So just as you look at
[26:18] the agendas, we'll do a presentation and
discussion, then you'll hold the public
[26:21] hearing, and then you'll make a motion
on these next several items.
[26:25] So this one is page five through seven
of the packet, and it's just some
[26:29] cleanup journal entries that we cleanup
budget adjustments that we needed to
[26:33] make. So you can see we're increasing
the budget for sales tax and grants.
[26:37] Some of that grants is we're just coding
some of that storm water stuff currently
[26:41] into
the street, and so we'll have to
[26:44] reconcile that at the end of the year,
but I just want to make sure we had a
[26:47] little bit of a budget there in case it
needed to stay there. And then we had
[26:51] never formally adopted the
transportation utility fee
[26:54] Um fund budget. So it's adopting that
budget. And then if you remember when we
[26:59] purchased the plow truck, some of those
implements rolled over to this fiscal
[27:03] year rather than being bought in last
fiscal year. And so it's just an a
[27:06] $100,000 adjustment for that. So it's
just a few clean-up little areas.
[27:11] I'm happy to answer any questions you
may have.
[27:15] » Okay. Thank you, Cody. We'll now move to
enter into a public hearing
[27:21] uh to discuss these adjustments to the
budget. Any We need a motion.
[27:26] » I move we move I move we enter a public
hearing to discuss adjustments to the
[27:31] 2025-2026 budget.
>> Okay. Motion by Katie and a second by
[27:35] Jason. All in favor say I.
>> I.
[27:38] » Any opposed?
Motion carries. We're now enter into a
[27:41] public hearing. So if you'd like to
provide any comments regarding these
[27:45] adjustments to our current 25-26
uh budget year budget,
[27:53] feel free to come up
entertain those.
[27:57] Okay. Seeing no comments,
um I will entertain a motion now to
[28:00] close the public hearing.
>> I move we close the public hearing.
[28:04] » Second.
>> Okay. Motion by Jason and a second by
[28:07] David. All in favor say I.
>> I.
[28:11] » Okay.
Public hearing is now closed for that.
[28:15] Um I will now entertain a motion to
approve the adjustments to the 2025-2026
[28:21] budget.
>> So moved.
[28:24] » I'll second.
>> Motion by Tim and a second by Katie to
[28:27] approve. All in favor say I.
>> I.
[28:29] » Any opposed?
>> Do we need a roll call for that button?
[28:33] » Uh we probably should, huh, on money.
Okay. Roll call, Bob.
[28:37] » I.
>> Dave.
[28:38] » I.
>> Katie.
[28:39] » I.
>> Jason.
[28:40] » I.
>> And Tim.
[28:41] » I.
>> Okay. Motion passes.
[28:45] Approval Next item there is
consideration to approve an ordinance
[28:49] enacting the compensation increases for
specific city officers.
[28:54] Cody is here to explain the purpose of
this and why.
[29:00] » Okay, thank you council and thank you
mayor. So, this is page
[29:04] 8 through 12 of the packet. So, if you
remember, I believe it was last year, it
[29:08] might have been 2 years ago, there was a
new state law that we have to present
[29:11] the path the schedule that's on page 11
for any
[29:15] of the
municipal officers compensation
[29:18] increases. So, that's the large part of
this. The other part of it we're
[29:21] approving the pay scale and if you look
at the pay scale which is on page 12 of
[29:26] the packet, the bottom two sections,
those are the new positions
[29:30] that mayor wanted created.
And so, those are the new positions that
[29:35] we're proposing with the budget and the
corresponding
[29:39] increases will take place there. And
then one other thing in the ordinance
[29:45] if you remember that includes like the
officers and things. We've also included
[29:50] there as part of the
>> [clears throat]
[29:52] » compensation policy of the city, it
gives you the option as the mayor and
[29:57] council to take the average increase as
well. And if you remember we talked
[30:00] about that with the tentative budget,
the average increase was that 5.77%.
[30:04] So, that's included in there as well.
So, if you guys decided not to do that,
[30:08] then William's not here but I assume
we'd just need to
[30:12] change approve the ordinance with the
change that we just those compensation
[30:17] amounts remain the same that are in part
two paragraph B.
[30:21] » I have some questions. So, and this is
just kind of me being
[30:25] uh
knowing that I'm not always on this. As
[30:29] a taxpayer, I would love to have more
say
[30:34] when when my elected officials are
giving themselves raises basically.
[30:38] Um is there any kind of provision I
realize we're going off a very
[30:42] reasonable schedule and increase and I I
I get the accounting side of it, but
[30:46] also the taxpayer side of it is like
I want I want to be able to have a say
[30:50] as to when when my elected officials get
a pay increase.
[30:55] Um
is is there anything with the state
[30:57] ordinance that takes in takes that into
account?
[31:01] » No.
Um and so it's just city policy that we
[31:04] give you guys the option to take it.
They haven't taken it as far as I
[31:08] remember since I've worked here. So it's
been pretty stagnant for like the last
[31:11] six or seven years.
>> Okay.
[31:13] » Um so it's really up to you guys. You
know, like there's reasons to do it,
[31:17] there's reasons not to do it. Some
people argue the higher it is that you
[31:21] attract you know, like more people, more
capable people. I don't know that that's
[31:25] always true. Um but it's really up to
you guys.
[31:28] » time that came up was 2016-2017,
somewhere right in there.
[31:33] » Yeah.
>> Uh
[31:35] and that was a recommendation from the
planning commission at that time.
[31:38] Uh
And there was a
[31:42] » So while he's busy
>> [clears throat]
[31:44] » is there a provision that if we approve
it um
[31:48] it can be enforced or
in included increased but how do we
[31:55] reject it personally?
>> I don't know that you really can reject
[31:59] it personally. I don't know
>> in this for any money. I'm certainly not
[32:02] getting
>> I think if you want to do that, then you
[32:05] should probably just reject it.
>> And I would I want to be clear on this.
[32:08] If you look at the raise amount,
>> 5.7%. It's the average It's the average
[32:14] » in
>> of of the increases of all of our city
[32:17] of
employees. That's how we come about that
[32:20] that average. So it's a very minimal
amount. Um
[32:24] it's I think to just so everyone knows,
this this also includes the raises to
[32:29] all of our contracted employees as well,
that same ordinance for the attorneys,
[32:36] uh the engineers, etc.
>> I don't think it does the engineers.
[32:39] » It does It is in there or not. So, I
read through it.
[32:42] » Okay. Well, that's kind of my point is I
don't want to hinder anybody else,
[32:46] » But But you we can restrict ours from
there. We just have to be very clear.
[32:52] » I I don't want to affect yours. I just
don't want I don't want any
[32:54] » Well, I don't need it. It's It's like I
said, it's $57 It's It's 57 It's $50 $57
[33:00] to me. And I think it's $20 to the
council. We're not asking for this,
[33:06] Jason, because we think we want that
raise.
[33:08] » No, I I get that. I I just again, it's
more for me it's more about the
[33:12] principle of
>> Yeah.
[33:13] » saying
>> I agree with that principle.
[33:15] » I I will argue that
again, I don't I'm indifferent. I don't
[33:20] need it. I don't care if we get it.
But I do see
[33:25] the reason why Cody has built it in
>> Mhm.
[33:28] » because if we continue to kick it away
and never take it,
[33:33] at some point down the road,
there will be a point in time where the
[33:38] council and mayor will need to adjust
their salaries. And at that point, it's
[33:43] a lot harder conversation cuz you've
never been taking this.
[33:46] » Well, it's a larger amount. You'll get
behind
[33:48] » No, I I'm I'm comfortable moving forward
tonight with with this. I just I think
[33:53] maybe we should have some further
discussion about, uh, finding a way to
[33:56] put a little bit more, uh,
control in the hands of the voters.
[34:01] Um, for making sure that it doesn't get
out of hand or but some sort of
[34:06] limitation to it. Again,
>> Are you suggesting limitations on all of
[34:10] our contracted employees as well?
>> No, for just
[34:14] » Just elected officials.
>> Yeah.
[34:16] » So, that's fine. We can And we can
strike the elected officials.
[34:20] » I I don't think we need to hear anything
tonight. I'm saying
[34:25] Hold on. Find a good wording for it.
>> I want to find the actual ordinance cuz
[34:28] I
>> It's on page eight and nine. And it's
[34:31] not that It's not the engineers, it's
just the attorneys. It's just the civil
[34:35] attorney, the prosecuting attorney. The
judge is required by state law. And then
[34:41] um the recorder is included in there cuz
they're an officer, but it's based upon
[34:45] pay scale. And then mine's the same as
the judge. So.
[34:49] » So up in that
>> And you can do whatever you want on
[34:52] yours. That's just how the city's policy
is written. Um some cities I think Ogden
[34:57] has it set up. I can't remember the
percentage. I want to say it's 4%. They
[35:00] just have a percentage that it is every
year. And like it's capped kind of like
[35:05] you're saying, Council Anderson, that
like it doesn't exceed that amount.
[35:10] » So
Cody, can I just make a recommendation?
[35:14] » Yep.
>> Hey, cuz I think it's clear no one up
[35:17] here has asked for this.
>> Correct.
[35:19] » Mayor, I haven't asked for it. Council
members haven't asked for this.
[35:23] I I don't want this to become some big
story that we're asking for a 5% raise.
[35:29] It's just built into the ordinance as
it's written. So if we want to strike
[35:34] it, I believe we probably could
remove or approve the ordinance
[35:41] approve the ordinance
with the exclusion of the
[35:48] compensated adjustments to the elected
officials. Could we not?
[35:52] » I think so. Or just leave those amounts
as they are rather than the proposed
[35:56] increases that are stated.
>> Yeah. And
[36:00] » However you want to do it.
>> And I I will support whatever the
[36:02] council wants to do. I I think
just wanted to make it clear no one up
[36:06] here has asked for that.
>> Right. And I wasn't trying to suggest
[36:09] that cuz again, 5% on the
very volunteer based amount that we're
[36:14] getting for this is not a a substantial
amount. Correct. For me it's really more
[36:18] about the principle of elected officials
giving themselves raises. That's it.
[36:23] » I personally think it's
it's a fair way of doing it based on
[36:28] that percentage
and the average with the with all of the
[36:33] other
uh city individuals getting that
[36:37] rather than for us to arbitrarily say,
"Oh, we need a $50 a month or $100 a
[36:41] month raise."
>> [clears throat]
[36:44] » If we're going to do it at all, I think
it
[36:47] the way it's based here in the ordinance
is probably the
[36:50] the most fair way to do it.
>> Well, that way there's never
[36:54] it's never followed up with a request
from somebody here.
[36:58] » Right.
>> In other words, it negates any of that
[37:00] appearance of being self-serving.
>> Self-serving.
[37:03] » It's just the way the structure of the
ordinance is. It happens when it happens
[37:09] and
uh doesn't kick up a lot of dust.
[37:13] » For sure. The other nice thing about um
talking to taking it, too, is then like
[37:19] it's kind of like everything else we're
trying to do in the city with the
[37:21] utility fees and stuff. We're just
trying to incrementally increase them.
[37:25] So, we avoid the point that it goes 20
years and then it's like all of a sudden
[37:29] we've got to do uh a larger increase.
>> And I think that's why it's there,
[37:33] right?
>> Right.
[37:34] » That's why it's in the ordinance.
>> Right.
[37:36] » It's just kind of trying to hold the
line a little bit.
[37:39] So, it's totally up to you. Do you have
any other questions for me?
[37:44] » No, thank you, Cody.
>> I think our next item is to open it up
[37:47] to a public hearing. Maybe the public
has some
[37:51] uh input for us on this issue.
>> I'll make a motion that we open the
[37:56] public hearing uh related to
the ordinance um enacting compensation
[38:03] increases for uh specific city officers.
>> I'll second the motion.
[38:07] » And and city officials.
>> Oh, and city officials.
[38:12] » Right.
>> Um
[38:14] » I think yeah. A motion by Katie, second
by Bob. All in favor say I.
[38:18] » I.
>> I.
[38:19] » Okay. We're now on a public hearing.
Does anyone want to approach
[38:25] and comment?
[38:29] No?
No comment? Okay.
[38:33] Uh
no comment. We will have a motion to
[38:36] close the public hearing.
>> I move we close public hearing.
[38:39] » Okay, motion to close by Jason.
>> Second.
[38:42] » Second by Tim. All in favor say I.
>> I.
[38:46] » Okay, public hearing is now closed.
We'll now consider approval of ordinance
[38:51] 2026-11
enacting compensation increases for
[38:56] specific city officers. Katie was right,
that's how it is read. Um do we want to
[39:02] approve this,
modify it?
[39:06] I don't think we want to reject it or
deny it cuz that would impact the city
[39:10] uh
city employees.
[39:13] » Legally we have to adopt it if you want
the city employees to have an increase
[39:17] and the judge.
>> Okay, so Cody says legally we have to
[39:21] adopt it if we intend for the city for
the city employees and the judge
[39:27] and the attorneys
to receive their uh compensation
[39:31] increase.
>> So, I'm willing to bring my concerns to
[39:35] a later
point uh
[39:38] and see about making a more thoughtful
change behind my concern.
[39:43] So, we don't keep uh
people who really matter
[39:47] for the this raise getting it. So, I I'm
willing to table those concerns for
[39:52] being dealt with later.
>> And maybe in the future we modify what
[39:55] the ordinance is for elected officials.
>> Are we on a time constraint with this
[39:58] regarding next year's budget, Cody?
>> Yes.
[40:01] » Uh we needed to approve it tonight. The
other thing you could do, and I don't
[40:04] know if you necessarily want to do this
tonight, you could cap that, but like
[40:08] let's say the average increase was 10%
or something like that, that it never
[40:13] went over 5% or whatever the case may
be.
[40:17] » I'm glad you said that cuz I think I
looked at last year's average and it was
[40:20] like 7.9%.
>> Yeah.
[40:23] » So, it does fluctuate.
>> So, and if you remember that pay scale
[40:27] comes from TechNet, we're surveying
those positions. That's where the raises
[40:31] is coming from is the average of the
employees. So, if you're worried about
[40:34] that, that might be the best way to
approach it is that we
[40:37] » And we could
>> Could we cap
[40:39] » in tonight?
>> I would assume that we could do that.
[40:42] » Glenn said he gave instruction if
anything's changed, just modify it.
[40:46] But, I think he he said the same thing.
We do have to make a decision on it
[40:50] tonight.
>> Yep.
[40:51] » Can I ask you though? Can you explain
just briefly what TechNet is so everyone
[40:55] understands?
>> So, TechNet is basically like a database
[40:58] provider for all the local governments
in the state of Utah if they want to
[41:02] provide if they want to subscribe. So,
as part of it, we pay a fee to be part
[41:06] of TechNet and then we have to share our
data with them just like we pull the
[41:11] data. So, then any local government that
participates, they can upload there.
[41:15] It's based upon job description. So,
ideally we're matching job descriptions
[41:20] and then with that job description then
we put what we're paying and everybody
[41:24] else puts what they're paying and then
we're able to go in there and survey a
[41:28] position and see what other people are
paying so that we're consistent with
[41:32] like what a recorder is getting
throughout the state.
[41:34] » Are you happy with the way it's written
right now?
[41:37] » I think it's great.
>> I I do too, but I I think Jason makes a
[41:41] good point. Could we add verbage that
caps
[41:44] that would cap
any compens- any adjusted increase for
[41:49] elected officials at a certain percent
that we felt
[41:52] » I'm sure we can. I just don't know if
this is the best place to do that or if
[41:56] that's a question for me.
>> I have a question for you.
[41:58] » to discuss that and change it later.
>> I think that's what too.
[42:02] » I'll try to amend it tonight.
>> session would be good.
[42:05] » Approve it now and then adjust the
ordinance.
[42:07] » I like that. Yes.
>> Cuz again, 5% tonight It not like we're
[42:11] going
on vacations and stuff
[42:14] » No.
>> All right.
[42:15] » But if we can take care of that in a
work session [clears throat] soon, I
[42:18] think that would be sufficient.
>> Can we Is that okay?
[42:21] » That's perfect.
>> And then we're trying to make sure
[42:22] Liam's there just so we
>> And then we're still um
[42:26] fulfilling our obligation per state law.
>> Yep.
[42:30] » It's going to be the hardest earned $20
>> [laughter]
[42:33] » All right. Katie's excited.
>> So I've been the one to make all the
[42:37] noise here.
I'm going to move that we approve
[42:40] ordinance number 2026-11 enacting
compensation increases for specific city
[42:44] officers.
>> As it is written.
[42:47] » As it is written.
>> I'll second.
[42:49] » Motion Motion by Jason and a second by
Tim to approve any
[42:54] » Roll call it.
>> Yes, it does say roll call here for me.
[42:57] I put that note in there. Roll call uh
Tim.
[43:00] » Aye.
>> Jason.
[43:02] » Aye.
>> Katie.
[43:03] » Aye.
>> David.
[43:04] » Aye.
>> And Bob.
[43:06] » Aye.
>> Okay. Motion carries.
[43:09] Uh ordinance number 2026-11
is approved.
[43:16] Okay. Consideration of approval of the
final 2026-2027
[43:22] budget is our next item and Cody will
explain that.
[43:26] » Okay. Thank you. Um so once again, this
is basically the essentially the same
[43:31] budget that we went over in the work
session in the tentative budget. The
[43:35] only thing we really changed is adjusted
it for the property tax rates that we
[43:38] just got last week. Um so it's included
in the packet and on pages 31 through
[43:44] 13 through 31. On page 31 shows the
adjustment that I made for the um
[43:49] property tax. If you remember, we always
estimate a little high
[43:53] um and then adjust that down and adjust
that out with sales tax. So it's largely
[43:56] what we talked about. As always, we made
several changes this year if you
[44:01] remember and set up new departments,
reallocated things. So I would
[44:06] anticipate that we probably will have a
few more budget amendments this year
[44:09] than we usually do just trying to
massage that and get everything in just
[44:13] the right place. But, I'm happy to
answer any questions you may have.
[44:17] » I I just have a comment.
Um mainly cuz I'm
[44:21] extremely proud of everyone's efforts
[44:27] in the city.
Um
[44:31] and the
the big push in the budget. We budgeted
[44:35] 20,000
in the come in from donations
[44:39] for Freedom Festival,
which I was told is more than 10,000
[44:43] more than we've ever brought in.
Um I will report as of tonight, we've
[44:49] received over $24,000 in donations from
local businesses and interested
[44:56] residents.
>> That's amazing.
[44:58] » Um and that all and I that is and
Angie's here. That's Lindsey's efforts.
[45:04] That's city staff. Um we've all made a
big push to reach out to those that we
[45:08] know in the business community. So, I
publicly wanted to mention that that um
[45:14] that goes a a really long way especially
this year where the state has asked
[45:19] all of the cities to really make an
effort to celebrate America's 250th
[45:24] birthday, which we're doing.
Have a long list of items there. So, I
[45:28] just wanted to congratulate everyone on
that effort.
[45:33] Any comments or questions about the
budget?
[45:37] Okay. We do need to
open for public hearing.
[45:42] » I move we open public hearing for
considering our uh
[45:47] to receive and consider public comments.
>> I'll second.
[45:50] » Okay. Motion by Jason and a second by
Katie. All in favor say I.
[45:55] » I.
>> Okay. Motion carries. We're now in a
[45:58] public hearing to discuss the 2026-27
um
[46:03] fiscal year budget.
[46:07] Any comments?
Anyone would like to come up and
[46:10] comment?
No? Okay, seeing no comments,
[46:15] um I will entertain a motion to close
the public hearing.
[46:18] » So moved.
>> Jason has moved to close.
[46:21] » Second.
>> Seconded by
[46:23] Was that Tim?
Okay, all in favor say aye.
[46:27] » Aye.
>> Okay, motion The public hearing is now
[46:30] closed.
Um I will entertain a motion to approve
[46:33] the final budget. Is there any final
comments or questions?
[46:37] » Um I just I wanted to make sure we were
still working on that policy for the um
[46:43] employee
awards.
[46:45] » Yes.
>> As
[46:47] » Well, it's in it's included in the
budget. Um
[46:51] just so everyone knows, I I awarded one
last month out of my own pocket because
[46:58] we didn't have budget money to use it.
But there is I think it's 10,000 How
[47:03] much did we budget? 10
>> 10,000
[47:04] » $10,000. What that is is for a mayor's
award, um
[47:09] which is decided not just by me. I mean,
city city staff, city council.
[47:16] Anyone observing someone going above and
beyond. So, it gives us an ability to
[47:20] reward
extra efforts. And I can tell you we'll
[47:24] be rewarding several of these after the
4th of July because there's been an
[47:28] enormous amount of effort after hours by
the staff to put all this stuff on.
[47:34] Um I think the only worry there from
maybe you, Katie, and someone on the
[47:39] council, which was valid, um and it
helps protect It probably does help
[47:43] protect that. What limitations do we put
on that 10,000 so that the mayor doesn't
[47:49] have
maybe universal power or authority to do
[47:52] whatever they wanted to do.
Um and I'm happy with I'm not looking to
[47:57] anything like that. I just wanted to We
wanted to create a program where we
[48:00] could reward behavior.
>> No, and I think it's a great I I think
[48:03] it's a great idea and it's a really
inconsequential sum when you come to
[48:07] think of it, but I would I think Liam
had talked about in our work session
[48:12] developing just a policy for around that
with some like protections and I just
[48:18] wanted to just keep that in make sure
that's still moving forward.
[48:25] » Is there anything we want to adjust on
that right now before we approve the
[48:28] budget?
>> I think we're okay. I think we can work
[48:32] on a policy.
Um and
[48:34] » Could we insert that into our policy and
procedures and make it in and make it a
[48:38] part of that?
>> I think so or a personnel policy.
[48:41] » Oh, yeah.
>> Our personnel policy is probably where
[48:43] it fits better.
>> where Liam suggested.
[48:44] » And that's a that's easy to insert and
we'd bring it up on a motion to approve
[48:49] the
>> Yep.
[48:50] » And we
>> What we could do is have like some cap
[48:52] in there so an individual award can't
exceed a certain amount and like if you
[48:57] want some approval and documentation
that goes with it. We need to make sure
[49:00] it gets reported on their taxes and
things like that. So we could just have
[49:04] all that stuff in there. It wouldn't
need to be a big deal and it would be
[49:07] pretty straightforward.
>> So that's not a problem.
[49:09] » I'll make a list and send Liam an email
what we
[49:13] » In addition to the documentation, I mean
if we're giving [clears throat] these
[49:17] out honestly, we should probably make
more of a big deal at least an email
[49:21] that goes out says, "Hey, we've awarded
so-and-so because of this great
[49:25] exceptional work." That also creates
while that's not the main purpose, but
[49:31] it creates a bit of a paper trail there
as well.
[49:33] » Yeah.
When I first brought this up, um
[49:36] Cody I'm going to rat you out a little
bit.
[49:38] » [laughter]
>> I I I was kind of I was going big and I
[49:43] was like, "I want to I want to be able
to like let's give them a $500 or a
[49:47] $1,000 bonus to their check and if they
do something really really awesome,
[49:53] let's make it powerful and
Cody brought me to back down to earth a
[49:57] little bit and said it doesn't need to
be that. It just needs to be
[50:00] recognition. And I'm the reason I'm
calling you out is the one that I
[50:04] awarded to Trev last month uh for all of
his efforts on the rodeo preparation and
[50:10] helping us have our first rodeo event.
Um and he's Man, he spends a lot of time
[50:15] at the arena grooming it and doing all
that. Um my little gift card was $25.
[50:21] And you know what? That he was so
uh honored to receive that and it he it
[50:27] meant so much to him. So, it really it
wasn't the dollar amount. It was the
[50:32] recognition. And so, that 10,000 will go
That'll go a long ways all year.
[50:37] » If the mayor keeps giving out his gift
cards, there's no tax, right?
[50:40] » Right.
>> All right. You can't tax me on that one.
[50:43] » [laughter]
>> Yeah, it's just a gift.
[50:46] » But you're right, Jason. We can promote
that from within. We can send out some
[50:51] staff emails. Make sure everyone's
recognized that way, for sure.
[50:55] » And you could even include reporting if
you wanted that like the mayor reports
[50:58] that back in city council meeting so
that they get recognition more publicly,
[51:02] whatever you'd like. Like we can
>> write that in.
[51:05] » facilitate
whatever.
[51:07] » I like it being in the policy, though.
>> Yeah.
[51:10] » Cuz then it's part of the
policy and procedure.
[51:13] » I think it's just yeah.
Cover your butt.
[51:16] » Yeah. I think it's a great idea.
>> Like it.
[51:19] » Great. I think we need a roll call.
>> I don't think we've made a motion.
[51:23] » Oh, we haven't. Nope, we haven't made a
motion.
[51:25] » I'll make a motion that we approve the
final 2026-2027
[51:29] budget.
>> Okay. Motion by Katie to approve the
[51:32] budget, second by Jason. All in favor
No.
[51:36] » One by one.
>> One by one. We'll do a roll call. Bob.
[51:39] » I.
>> David.
[51:41] » I.
>> Katie.
[51:42] » I.
>> Jason.
[51:42] » I.
>> And Tim.
[51:44] » I.
>> Okay.
[51:45] Based on that, the motion passes. We
have a new
[51:50] fiscal year budget.
Good job. Good job, team.
[51:54] » Cody, appreciate all the work you put
into it.
[51:56] » Yes, thank you.
>> Should we give Cody a $25 gift card?
[51:59] » No, he gets the 5.7%.
>> [laughter]
[52:04] » Same 5.7.
[52:08] I'm I'm going to publicly do the same
thing. Cody has spent
[52:13] hours
upon hours
[52:17] of extra time on this budget.
Making sure that
[52:23] that we're not budgeting to zero, we're
carrying plenty of money over,
[52:28] we're saving for a rainy day.
The one thing I will say this, too.
[52:34] And you get a little heat for this.
Pushing back on things or you can't do
[52:39] that or you we can't spend
I would much rather have that
[52:44] than someone that would just let you
spend whatever you want. Cody, you do a
[52:47] great job and you keep us in line and
make sure that we're
[52:51] we're uh
able to report to the residents that
[52:54] we're good stewards of of their money.
So, thank you.
[52:58] » Yes.
>> I really appreciate your expertise.
[53:00] [clears throat] I trust you and trust in
that, too.
[53:03] » Very much.
Our next item is consideration for
[53:07] approval of the certified tax rate for
the 26 year and Cody will present that.
[53:12] » Okay, so on page 32 of the packet is the
new certified tax rate. Just for your
[53:17] information, so it's 0.000322.
[53:21] If you remember last year it was
0.000327.
[53:26] Um and the certified budgeted revenues
is the 411457.
[53:31] Last year it was 375588.
So, um the increase, the new growth
[53:37] increase is $35,869.
So, that's new things that occurred in
[53:42] Fairwest. And the rate dropped by point
five zeros and a five, which is about a
[53:48] 1.5% increase. So, what that means is
values went up about 1.5% and so then
[53:54] the rate drops so that we get the same
amount of money before
[53:58] the
new growth. So, if you have any
[54:00] questions, I can answer it. Otherwise
>> Thank you. Can I do have a question?
[54:04] Just so everyone's clear, there was not
a truth in taxation this year.
[54:09] » Nope, we didn't
>> We didn't increase taxes.
[54:11] » We just held the certified tax rate. So,
no truth in taxation or TNT requirements
[54:17] were required.
>> And you guys
[54:19] » And be proud be proud of that. I mean,
you know, I watch some of these cities
[54:23] you know, the
I'll use Roy as the example cuz they're
[54:26] in the news every day, but there's a lot
of cities that that's a hot button item.
[54:32] » West Haven had increased this
>> Yeah. So, again, I say well done. That
[54:36] was it's great. It's awesome.
>> I don't know if you seen the article
[54:39] today about the new North Ogden Valley
City. So, they're suing the state tax
[54:43] commission cuz they didn't get all their
stuff done by January 1st. So, they
[54:46] don't have a legal right to assess a
property tax, but they're proposing I
[54:50] can't remember now like 532%
tax increase.
[54:54] » When you go from zero to
>> Well, they the county assessed a little
[54:59] tiny bit it but it's just their out of
county or their out of city municipal
[55:03] rate. And it's like 100 100 bucks per
household or something. And so, they're
[55:08] going up significantly. So, they're
Besides Roy's like 50% increase, the
[55:12] Ogden Valley one is shibongo, too.
>> Up to 50%.
[55:16] » Yeah. Yeah, up to
>> It's not at 50%.
[55:18] » Right, that's the max they can go.
So.
[55:21] » I just want to also say thanks. You've
explained how all this works a number of
[55:24] times and it's helped helped us be
prepared for this. So, appreciate that.
[55:28] Thank you.
>> Yeah.
[55:29] » Thanks.
>> Um
[55:32] any other questions about the tax rate?
>> I move that we uh, the certified tax
[55:39] rate for the 2026 tax year.
>> I'll second.
[55:42] » Motion by
Tim to approve, a second by Bob. Do we
[55:47] roll call this, you think?
>> You can. I mean, it wouldn't hurt.
[55:51] » It wouldn't hurt.
>> it's it's money. It's I mean, it's
[55:53] money. So, uh, Bob?
>> Aye.
[55:56] » David?
>> Aye.
[55:58] » Katie?
>> Aye.
[55:59] » And Jason?
>> Aye. Tim?
[56:01] » Aye.
>> The motion carries.
[56:04] That is approved. Amendments, uh, to
consider
[56:10] consideration for approval of our,
um, consolidated fee schedule.
[56:15] Um, and Cody is again going to explain
that.
[56:19] » Okay, so this is page 33 and 34 of the
packet. Um, we're just proposing that
[56:24] the sewer rate goes up by the same rate
that Central Weber's increasing their
[56:29] rate.
Um, same thing with the garbage cans,
[56:32] the proposed increase there, we're
proposing same increase, and then we
[56:37] kind of took the average of those to
increase the storm water utility fee.
[56:41] And then the transportation utility fee
is remaining unchanged. It's staying at
[56:44] the $7. So, it's just And these are
reflected in the budget, so this is just
[56:50] kind of the back end so that we have the
legal ability to increase those fees.
[56:53] So, if you have any questions, I can
answer them.
[56:55] » Just Just a comment. The sewer fee
last year, the state rejected the sewer
[57:00] district's input, so they got zero.
The sewer [clears throat] district
[57:05] operated off of
rainy day funds and bonds, interest off
[57:10] bonds. So, there was no increase, and
there will be no increase
[57:15] uh, other than
the operating expenses. So, they're not
[57:18] raising us because they failed to get
the approval from the state from last
[57:22] year.
>> And you're talking property tax.
[57:24] » Correct.
>> For this Central Weber.
[57:27] » Yep.
>> I did have a question on the replacement
[57:30] container. Looks like we've charged $25
for that since 2021.
[57:36] Have we looked at the actual costs of
those replacement containers to make
[57:40] sure that we're covering
>> 500 dollars. So I think that is just if
[57:45] your can gets like broken.
If [clears throat] you want a new can, I
[57:50] believe it's elsewhere in the policy and
it's like 125 bucks.
[57:55] » Okay.
>> So like if I go and say I want a second
[57:57] garbage can, I believe I have to pay
like 125 dollars.
[58:02] » Cost of can plus 1265 a month. And then
okay.
[58:05] » I think that's just if like your can
gets broken or you put fireworks in your
[58:09] can and melt it.
I think that's what
[58:12] » Knowing that it is though
125 dollars and we're only charging 25,
[58:18] there's a pretty big delta there.
>> Would need to ask Robbie. I don't know
[58:22] if some of those qualify. He's confirmed
165 a can.
[58:26] » Yeah, I remember.
>> Is the cost. Yeah, and I don't know if
[58:29] some of these like we get replaced under
warranty and the 25 is more just a
[58:32] service fee. I'm not positive
>> They don't My trash can was destroyed by
[58:36] the trash truck and I paid the full
replacement fee.
[58:39] » Okay.
>> Wait, say that again. If they ruin it?
[58:42] » My trash can was destroyed by the trash
truck and I ended up having to pay the
[58:46] full replacement.
>> Not the 25?
[58:47] » Not the 25.
>> That's interesting.
[58:50] » I know.
I didn't argue.
[58:52] » And that's something we should probably
look at.
[58:53] » argue it. I just wanted my trash
collected.
[58:55] » I bet he probably that's probably not I
mean maybe it is but That seems off to
[59:01] me.
>> I just hope nobody else had to pay.
[59:02] » Yeah, that should be in our contract
with them if it's not that they replace
[59:07] any cans that are broken.
>> Split it right down the middle. If they
[59:11] break it, it
should be their responsibility.
[59:15] » Just something worth looking into.
>> We can look at that. I assume that's
[59:19] just the replacement not a new.
>> We'll take that up.
[59:22] » What are we looking at? So like what do
you mean?
[59:25] » Uh this replacement can.
>> 25 dollars?
[59:28] » Mhm.
[59:32] » Yeah.
>> But if they if they have to
[59:35] replace the container and the actual
cost of the garbage can is $165,
[59:41] but we're only charging the resident
$25.
[59:43] » Then we're eating the money.
>> We're eating a pretty good amount of
[59:46] money.
>> Yeah, but I'm not sure that when they
[59:48] replace it, they always replace it with
a new one.
[59:50] » They do not.
>> I think that's true.
[59:52] » There are some that they refurbish and
recondition uh, and cannibalize to have
[59:57] some backup cans for this purpose.
>> I think you're right. And I think we get
[1:00:02] some back on warranty once we buy new
ones and things. I think that's why the
[1:00:05] $25 is less than the
>> So, just I'm
[1:00:09] » They're serially controlled.
>> We have an awesome public works director
[1:00:13] who watches all of these.
>> Right.
[1:00:15] » And he's watching right now.
Um, we only charge $25 to recoup some
[1:00:20] money.
Uh, his advice is we should change it
[1:00:24] cuz we replace a ton of garbage cans.
So, to Katie's point, we are expensing
[1:00:28] that.
>> It's still a lot of hole.
[1:00:30] » Um
>> Robbie, what do you recommend?
[1:00:32] » I would recommend that we don't do the
full 165 because at some point some of
[1:00:37] this is built into the rate. That's kind
of part of doing the cost of business.
[1:00:42] And I think it depends on how they
damage them. If they throw fireworks in
[1:00:46] it and melt the can, then yeah, they
should probably pay the 165 bucks. But
[1:00:49] if it just wears out cuz their can's 20
years old, I don't know that we should
[1:00:54] necessarily have that on the resident. I
think that's why this rate is 25 bucks.
[1:00:58] » And up until 20 up until 2021, we didn't
charge anything.
[1:01:02] » Right.
>> This this $25
[1:01:05] that just started as of 2021.
>> So, some of that cuz the garbage fund is
[1:01:11] a little different than the other
enterprise funds. Like we really don't
[1:01:13] need to make a lot of money because all
we need to do is pay for the trash
[1:01:17] service. And we usually make a little
bit of money, so that would pay for some
[1:01:21] of those damaged cans. So, if we have
lost cans that are old, maybe we need to
[1:01:24] bump that up to like 30 bucks or 40, but
I don't think we need to go to the
[1:01:28] » And I I will I will concede that in my
case, there were no replacement cans
[1:01:32] available. They'd all been dispensed, so
I had to buy new ones.
[1:01:35] From the vendor, but that's another
but on let's move on.
[1:01:39] » Uh the advice of of Rob is $100 would be
he thinks that would be sufficient, so
[1:01:45] maybe that's another discussion for
another day.
[1:01:47] » Yeah, I think we ought to look into it a
little
[1:01:49] » Or do can we change it right now?
>> You can change it right now. I just
[1:01:52] don't I mean
think about it, your can gets broke,
[1:01:56] like are you going to be mad that then
the city's like
[1:01:58] » I don't know. Well, so
>> Well, it sounds like they're charging
[1:02:01] » It happens a lot and and he did say
>> wrong. They shouldn't have done that. It
[1:02:05] should have been the 25.
>> Most of the time it's not the truck's
[1:02:07] fault.
The garbage cans just wear out over
[1:02:10] time.
>> Exactly.
[1:02:11] » That's normal wear and tear.
>> So, at some point I would say that's
[1:02:15] already built into our rates cuz if we
were doing it for free, like we're
[1:02:18] already covering that. So, it just
depends what you want to do.
[1:02:22] I just So, you know, like
I just think from a public like a
[1:02:27] customer service perspective, like
somebody would be mad if they're
[1:02:29] » Do we go to a public hearing for this?
>> Not yet.
[1:02:33] » Oh, but we will.
Cuz I want to hear what Lou thinks.
[1:02:38] » [laughter]
[1:02:41] » I'm So, we need a motion to enter a
public hearing.
[1:02:43] » So moved to 50 bucks.
>> Okay, motion by Jason.
[1:02:49] » Second.
>> Second by Tim. All in favor say I.
[1:02:52] » I.
>> Motion carries. We're now in a public
[1:02:54] hearing. And I've asked Lou to comment
as he is
[1:02:59] he's been around a while.
And I I I trust him. What do you think
[1:03:04] on this, Lou?
>> Well, let me just start with what I
[1:03:07] intended on doing. I it disappointed me
that we got four public hearings and you
[1:03:11] haven't had any comment from the public.
So, I'm representing the greater public
[1:03:15] right now.
>> That's fair.
[1:03:17] » But my my
here what is the increase in the monthly
[1:03:21] garbage can fee? You mentioned it's
increased. I just think it'd be fair.
[1:03:25] » It went from 1206
to 1265. It's minimal.
[1:03:30] » Oh, it's trivial. 50 cents.
>> And then in
[1:03:34] It's Oh, is it the same 5% that you're
getting?
[1:03:39] » [laughter]
[1:03:42] » Is it?
[1:03:46] Oh.
That makes sense.
[1:03:51] So, it is minimal.
>> To the point of garbage cans that wear
[1:03:56] out over time,
I think there should be some element of
[1:03:59] compassion on the citizens
to not give them a financial burden if
[1:04:05] they've taken good care of their garbage
can and it's just simply old and it's
[1:04:09] outgrown its utility.
So,
[1:04:13] » So,
>> quite different from misuse or
[1:04:16] overloading it or all of that.
>> I agree with that. Yeah, for sure. So,
[1:04:20] if the $25 replacement fee is how old,
Katie?
[1:04:25] » Since 2021.
>> 2021.
[1:04:27] » And you're increasing it to
>> We're asking, should we increase it?
[1:04:31] » Robbie recommended a hundred.
>> I'd say
[1:04:33] » Our public
>> There's a lot of real estate between 25
[1:04:37] and a hundred though.
>> The The Well, the cost of a new one is
[1:04:39] 165.
So, where do we Where do we fit?
[1:04:44] » the issue is who bears the burden of the
garbage can wearing out over time but
[1:04:49] used appropriately.
>> Yeah.
[1:04:53] » That's That's your decision, not mine.
>> Public Works recommends a hundred. It's
[1:04:57] 25 now.
>> How often do we get requests to replace
[1:05:01] a can?
>> Uh Public Works said it happens a lot. I
[1:05:05] don't know what that number would
entail, but it it's a lot.
[1:05:07] » I mean, I've I've been in since the
beginning and my I still have my two
[1:05:11] original
and I think they're in perfect shape.
[1:05:14] » I think part of the reason the original
and one of the four containers
[1:05:18] but I think part of the reason that they
implemented the $25 is so that people
[1:05:22] didn't just want to switch cans.
>> Yeah.
[1:05:24] » And [laughter]
if you break a can, bring me a new one.
[1:05:27] That's I believe why we implemented the
$25.
[1:05:30] » So I'm going to 50.
Yeah.
[1:05:32] » Cuz I can see 25 being an
inconsequential amount to stop somebody
[1:05:37] » Five a week at least.
>> Five a week, really?
[1:05:40] » Oh, that's that's heavy.
>> And you add that up over over time.
[1:05:44] » what you're doing you've got two issues.
You've got sort of the legitimate it
[1:05:48] wears out over time versus
almost abuse of that policy where I want
[1:05:53] a brand new shiny can cuz my new my
current can stinks a little bit and it's
[1:05:58] got a few scratches on it.
>> Agreed.
[1:06:01] » I think we ought to increase it but I'm
not sure we need to go all the way to
[1:06:04] 100.
>> Cody, you mentioned that part of our
[1:06:06] cost incorporates replacement which is
why you're saying if we do increase only
[1:06:11] like 35, 40, not all the way up to 100.
Do we know anything about how much
[1:06:18] or how much the we're we're
our fees are covering that increase?
[1:06:23] Or sorry, the replacement
[clears throat] costs?
[1:06:27] » Um explain more. I'm not quite following
you yet.
[1:06:30] » You said that the
the service fees that we pay should at
[1:06:35] least to some extent be covering the
cost of replacing can cans.
[1:06:40] Yeah.
>> If the residents pay the city for the
[1:06:43] shipping theory would have some built in
there.
[1:06:47] » Okay.
>> You just don't know how much that is
[1:06:49] right now.
>> It would vary, you know, like
[1:06:52] we're
historically we just bought. I think
[1:06:55] it's like 15 or $20,000 worth of cans
each year. So it would just be enough
[1:07:02] like cover that much of the budget.
>> [snorts]
[1:07:06] » Okay, so then the the 1265 a month we're
proposing moving to
[1:07:11] should at least in some theory cover the
cost of replacing a can within a
[1:07:15] reasonable amount of time, not every
year.
[1:07:18] » Could Could I suggest at least a
>> That's not but hold on, 1265 is not a
[1:07:23] replaced cost.
>> No, it's it's the the the cost for
[1:07:27] residents to have the can, which should
cover include
[1:07:32] a reasonable lifespan of the can
and then to be replaced. Isn't that what
[1:07:38] the 1265 is?
>> Well, it's for It It It could require a
[1:07:42] little bit of bookkeeping, but you could
have a policy
[1:07:46] that relates to how soon you replace the
can after you got your most recent one.
[1:07:51] » Mhm.
>> And you know, that would reflect, you
[1:07:55] know, normal wear and tear, not abusive
wear and tear. And if somebody's asking
[1:07:59] for a new can and they got a one 3 years
ago,
[1:08:03] that's quite different than somebody
that's asking to replace a can they've
[1:08:06] had for 20 years.
>> I think our attrition rate's going to
[1:08:09] increase significantly and it's going to
put more burden on the
[1:08:12] public works people.
>> Well, to to talk I'm sorry, Katie.
[1:08:16] » Well, and then like
there's no enforcement mechanism for
[1:08:19] like for somebody for us to say
[clears throat]
[1:08:23] no, you had a can too recently, so you
can't get one.
[1:08:26] » Don't you Don't you keep records of when
you sell them?
[1:08:28] » Well, I'm saying we can keep records,
but we have no way of enforcing We have
[1:08:32] no code with which to enforce that.
>> Right.
[1:08:35] » Um maybe mention to lose point, the the
garbage cans have a 5-year warranty
[1:08:40] currently.
So, that's a threshold to maybe keep in
[1:08:43] mind.
The other thing when I think I heard Bob
[1:08:46] say the burden on the staff or someone
so that um
[1:08:50] the employees when they have to replace
these garbage cans, I mean that's that's
[1:08:55] time, that's a truck, that's gas being
spent. We do need to account for some of
[1:09:00] this, especially if it's happening
five-hour plus a week.
[1:09:03] » Time away from
>> our rate. So, like we have accounted for
[1:09:07] that's what I'm saying. I don't even
think we need to
[1:09:10] build in a new rate for this. It's
already
[1:09:12] » We've accounted for their time.
>> But I'm not talking about the rate. I'm
[1:09:15] simply talking about the replacement
cost.
[1:09:17] » Right. We've already been paying for
that in our rate. Our rate is
[1:09:21] » Oh, I see.
>> So, we don't need to build it
[1:09:24] like you The only reason we need this is
if we have people who are are generally
[1:09:30] abusing
>> abusing it.
[1:09:31] » But it sounds like that's happening and
so $25 isn't really cutting it.
[1:09:35] » Right. But at some point like there's
probably some people that would pay $165
[1:09:40] cuz they want a new can.
But I guess we have to look at it like
[1:09:44] Lou too.
Like does Lou want to pay $150? They
[1:09:47] want to pay $165 for a new can, but if
it's Handy's broke
[1:09:51] does Lou want to pay $165 or do you want
to charge that? So, we can't punish
[1:09:55] everybody for a handful of people that
want to
[1:09:58] » And I don't think we should punish
anybody anyway.
[1:10:00] » Can we consider an incremental increase?
>> But maybe
[1:10:03] » Bring it up a little bit today and then
that's what I can consider later.
[1:10:06] » I think I heard Tim say 50. I mean, I
heard a couple things.
[1:10:09] » of the you know, the you you know, the
jump, the increment is pretty
[1:10:13] substantial. How about easing it up
rather than jumping 50?
[1:10:16] » I I think you're spot on, Lou.
>> Cody was recommending 35 or 40.
[1:10:24] » That's really what I think is I don't
think even though we replace these,
[1:10:27] that's just part of it. Another thing
you got to keep in mind is
[1:10:30] » I think we did these in big chunks like
originally and so we probably And I
[1:10:34] don't know from talking to Robbie, I'm
pretty sure I have a crappy garbage can
[1:10:37] like the year they ordered those. Like
it's just not as built as heavy as some
[1:10:40] of the other ones.
>> Did you got the one that the lid's
[1:10:42] broke?
>> It hasn't Yeah, but
[1:10:45] » Mine's been broke.
>> ticking time bomb.
[1:10:47] » You consider a replacement one for $25?
>> I know. If I If we don't
[1:10:50] If we don't If we don't change this
>> So, that's where like it We got to find
[1:10:54] that balance in that cuz somebody has a
garbage can, they call in and we're
[1:10:57] like, "Hey, it's a bucks." They're
probably going to be,
[1:11:00] "My garbage can broken? You're charging
me 100 bucks?" So, we just need to find
[1:11:03] the balance.
>> think 100's too steep to lose point.
[1:11:06] But, maybe 50? I mean, that seems like a
good compromise. It's kind of It's not
[1:11:10] even half. It's not even half of the
replacement cost.
[1:11:13] We're still covering more than half of
that cost.
[1:11:16] » It is twice what we're currently
charging, though.
[1:11:19] » It's
>> It's a big increase when everything else
[1:11:22] in price is going up.
>> Only if you're replacing a garbage can.
[1:11:27] » Sure.
>> It's not bad.
[1:11:29] Right? We're not charging that to get a
new one.
[1:11:32] » Sure.
>> Right?
[1:11:33] » I get that.
>> Right.
[1:11:35] » So, it's a totally up to you guys.
>> So,
[1:11:38] » And we're still in the
>> I would say we leave the actual cost of
[1:11:42] the can alone
where it is and only modify the
[1:11:47] replacement cost. That's it.
>> That's my feeling, too.
[1:11:51] » Exactly.
>> Well, should we move into a public
[1:11:53] hearing?
>> We we're in public now.
[1:11:55] » Sorry, in the public hearing.
>> Do we have more public comments? Come
[1:11:58] up.
Come up and say your Say your name so
[1:12:02] Ange can record it.
>> You really want to know my name? You
[1:12:06] know Want my real name or my just a
nickname?
[1:12:10] Oh, jeez. Antoinette.
>> Antoinette?
[1:12:13] » Yes.
Shaffer. S H A F F E R.
[1:12:18] » Good.
>> Thank you for coming up.
[1:12:19] » How do you spell it?
>> This needs to be mobile.
[1:12:21] » You're awesome. Thanks for being here.
You can bend the You can bend the
[1:12:23] microphone down.
>> What do you think about this?
[1:12:27] » I agree with Bob.
If the garbage truck destroys your can,
[1:12:32] you should not be responsible for it.
I'm sorry if I'm a little bit harsh on
[1:12:36] that, but
if I were in your position, I'd be
[1:12:40] saying, "No, I'm not going to pay for
that. That truck destroyed it."
[1:12:44] But, if I'm replacing it by myself,
definitely, I'll replace it. Because,
[1:12:48] hey, if I want a new one because the one
is like 25, 30, 50 years old or whatever
[1:12:52] and doesn't want to work anymore, I'll
replace it. But if somebody else is
[1:12:56] going to damage my
garbage can, absolutely not. Dorothy
[1:13:00] took ours up in North Ogden.
They couldn't find it.
[1:13:04] » I like that. I How do we
How do we police that, though?
[1:13:08] » That's going to be very difficult
because if they overload it and the
[1:13:11] axles bend or if it splits, cuz mine
split in half.
[1:13:15] There was no damage to it until it came
down and it was
[1:13:19] popped open.
Um how do you assess it? We don't have
[1:13:22] an inspection team. You just have to go
off of good faith.
[1:13:26] » I I mean, it's not you I agree with what
you're saying on principle. I'm just
[1:13:30] wondering as a city or from the
>> can't Yeah.
[1:13:34] » the company's perspective, how do we
know it wasn't just old, it had run its
[1:13:38] life course?
>> I think a good suggestion, take pictures
[1:13:41] with your phone, send it right straight
to your city office that day. This day,
[1:13:46] it happened on this day when the garbage
truck came to pick it up my
[1:13:49] » I think the burden of proof would be on
the resident to
[1:13:52] like make a claim with the garbage truck
company.
[1:13:55] » Right. Yeah.
>> Start off with that.
[1:13:58] But if they say, "Oh, you'll need to
contact your city."
[1:14:03] » I I will say this.
Uh
[1:14:08] 25 seems easy.
50, I think maybe will deter someone
[1:14:16] from saying, "Well, mine stinks and I
don't want to I want a new one cuz mine
[1:14:20] stinks."
>> My wheel is a little squeaky.
[1:14:22] » Yeah.
>> If they see that
[1:14:24] » I'm sorry.
>> yeah, there's a little
[1:14:25] » And I think 100 is a dis- a disservice
to the city residents.
[1:14:30] It's kind of how I feel, but
What do you think about Do you think a
[1:14:35] replacement cost is okay?
>> If
[1:14:40] If it's natural causes, you know, it's
old an old garbage can, but in
[1:14:45] the regards to damage from someone else
the the garbage truck company
[1:14:51] then
>> And you're saying that battle would have
[1:14:54] to be fought between the resident and
that company?
[1:14:57] » Or like what Cody said that in the
agreement there's some language that
[1:15:01] speaks to
the the if the trash hauler is the one
[1:15:06] that damages the can
there's some sort of you know
[1:15:10] claim process.
>> you're able to do that.
[1:15:13] » Okay. Cuz the problem's going to be
we need to have a contract with the
[1:15:17] hauler. So like me as a resident if I
call them and say hey
[1:15:21] » That's not where it goes.
[1:15:25] » But
so I'm probably going to have to call
[1:15:27] the city.
>> That's correct. If something happens to
[1:15:30] your can, you've got to come to the city
to resolve the problem. I had to do
[1:15:35] that. The lid tore off my can. One of
those those the old ones that just came
[1:15:40] undone and
>> Were you mean? Were you mean?
[1:15:42] » Oh, I was so No, I came in and said
I just came in and said my garbage can's
[1:15:47] falling apart. And they
I paid the 25 bucks and the guys came
[1:15:52] out with the truck
it's obviously been one that's been
[1:15:55] refurbished. It's got some really funky
wheels on it. Okay. Uh but they replaced
[1:16:00] it for me and it's fine. All I need is a
functional garbage can. This isn't some
[1:16:05] piece of yard art.
Okay?
[1:16:08] » Yeah.
>> [laughter]
[1:16:08] » Right.
>> Just need a place to put my trash.
[1:16:11] » So if someone
>> to come to the city to do it. You can't
[1:16:13] go to the the provider. You can't go to
the hauler.
[1:16:16] » Unless unless they come in and say the
truck did it then we would have to refer
[1:16:21] you to the
>> No, city still has to handle it.
[1:16:24] » No, I don't think so.
>> City property.
[1:16:29] » Uh uh
>> City property. You got to deal with it.
[1:16:32] » Oh, that is that is that how we're
>> See Bob, I tried to help.
[1:16:36] » [laughter]
[1:16:39] » For the majority of us that $100 or
whatever I paid
[1:16:42] » Are you you sure they're city property?
>> Yeah.
[1:16:45] » So then why did they make you pay the
full amount?
[1:16:49] » I don't I
But hold on, the the resident buys the
[1:16:54] can.
>> From the city.
[1:16:56] » So the resident owns the can.
[1:17:01] I know, but
[1:17:08] I mean we might have to consult with
Liam on that part cuz I I think
[1:17:13] from a legal perspective, if if a
resident owns the can, it's their
[1:17:17] property.
>> They don't own it.
[1:17:28] You don't own the can.
>> Well, that's interesting.
[1:17:31] » If you move, you can't take the can with
you.
[1:17:33] » Yeah, they
>> And but you're financially responsible
[1:17:36] for it while you have
control over it.
[1:17:40] » Kind of like a mailbox.
>> Yep.
[1:17:42] » You buy it, but it doesn't isn't yours.
Post office.
[1:17:45] » So what happens here?
>> That's interesting.
[1:17:47] » with the provider,
but the relationship with the service is
[1:17:53] between the resident and the city,
not between the resident and whoever's
[1:17:58] driving the truck.
And when something goes wrong,
[1:18:02] it's to this office that you come and
say, "The wheels fell off my can.
[1:18:08] I load it so heavy I can't drag it to
the
[1:18:10] Okay? And so I got to have a
replacement. And the city office will
[1:18:14] take care of it with the public works
people. They'll take care of the can.
[1:18:18] We've just got to decide what does that
expense entail. Is it $25 because I've
[1:18:24] had a failure, or is it 50?
If I want a second can, I'm going to pay
[1:18:29] full price for that.
>> Yes.
[1:18:32] » Agreed.
>> Mhm.
[1:18:34] » I still think it's personal property. I
think you can take that can with you.
[1:18:38] » You can.
>> No, you can't. certainly
[1:18:42] Wait, hold on. You can take the can with
you if you own the can.
[1:19:12] » Okay, so there you go.
Did they ever pay you back?
[1:19:16] » No, I didn't push it because it was
becoming economically unviable.
[1:19:22] It was taking more money and my time.
>> Yeah, right.
[1:19:25] » Well, that might I mean you say that's
in the contract, maybe that's worded
[1:19:29] wrong.
[1:19:37] I see.
Yeah, we are in the weeds a little bit
[1:19:40] right now, but
Good comments. Anything else?
[1:19:44] » That's it. Well, I have more in my mind,
but you'll be here all night.
[1:19:48] » [laughter]
>> We're working on it.
[1:19:50] » Okay, this is good con. I like this,
though. We don't have much public
[1:19:53] comments usually.
[1:20:02] If your can
and you need a replacement.
[1:20:10] We can update our new website with maybe
that instruction.
[1:20:13] » Yeah.
And but and it's a little difficult here
[1:20:17] where Bonavista does our collections
because normally like
[1:20:21] if they didn't do it then the residents
going to call us anyways.
[1:20:25] But like it's really the city
contracting for the services. So, if it
[1:20:29] gets broke, we the person bought the
can, it's on the city, and it's the
[1:20:34] city's contractor. So, it's just if we
have the legal ability to go back to the
[1:20:37] contractor and say, "Hey, you owe us for
a can."
[1:20:40] » Yeah, Bonavista bills you for the
service, but if you need a replacement,
[1:20:43] you come here to the city office, and
you pay
[1:20:46] uh for whatever it is you've got to
>> Right. Cover.
[1:20:50] » Cuz we pay Bonavista to do the billing
rather than doing it.
[1:20:53] » Right. And Bonavista isn't going to bill
you the 25 bucks for the can. You're
[1:20:56] going to pay that right here, whatever
that amount is.
[1:20:59] » The replacement
>> Yeah.
[1:21:01] » That's that's Are we done with the
public hearing, or are we still talking
[1:21:04] about it?
>> We're We're still in
[1:21:04] » I got one recommendation I want to throw
in.
[1:21:07] Since we've got a lot of like in the
weeds kind of questions about this,
[1:21:10] maybe we add this to the public hearing
we were talking about for the budget
[1:21:16] other budget items.
And for now, we approve this as is.
[1:21:21] And then if we need to if we feel like
during that public the work session that
[1:21:26] we need to adjust things, then we can
uh either make that effective uh sooner,
[1:21:32] or go into effect next year.
>> Can I ask a question?
[1:21:35] » Sure.
>> Uh
[1:21:39] a lot of the questions were concerning
who's responsible to pay or to replace
[1:21:45] it, right? The the city versus the
resident versus the company.
[1:21:50] I still think the replacement cost can
be adjusted here.
[1:21:54] Right now.
To deter
[1:21:58] just to deter a little bit the person
that just wants a new fresh smelling
[1:22:02] can.
>> For 25 bucks.
[1:22:04] » For 25 bucks. If that's all I have to
pay to get a new can,
[1:22:07] » Yeah.
>> I'm I'm going to do that all day long. I
[1:22:10] Why wouldn't you?
>> Well, it depends on the condition of the
[1:22:12] can. And public works is going to assess
that when they look at it. They don't
[1:22:16] just do it
uh carte blanche and say, "Okay, you can
[1:22:19] just come out and have a new can." If
they go out and there's nothing wrong
[1:22:22] with it.
>> Well, and I
[1:22:24] » think so. So, think if they come in and
they pay for a replacement can,
[1:22:28] » Public Works, we we've taken
>> it?
[1:22:29] » Yeah.
>> Well, that's what our order says.
[1:22:32] » Yeah.
>> And maybe we have some compassion on
[1:22:35] the homeowner that has owned their can
for years.
[1:22:40] I mean, I can't we use some
some subjectivity there?
[1:22:43] » Not really cuz in the fee schedule,
that's what it says. And I don't think
[1:22:47] we want to like we're kind of getting on
the weeds in this. I don't think we want
[1:22:50] to make it so complicated that it's way
more work for Public Works. So, they've
[1:22:54] got to look at it and be like, "Oh,
well, they replaced this can." I think
[1:22:57] we just need that fee to be somewhat of
a deterrent so we don't have everybody
[1:23:02] coming in. I was looking up what it cost
to get your garbage can cleaned. It
[1:23:05] looks like it's like 20 bucks a month.
>> Well, yeah. So, why would you clean your
[1:23:09] can if you get a new one for 25?
>> Well, and but like how many are we
[1:23:13] really having an abuse? I guess that's
the question. We're replacing five a
[1:23:17] week, but is it because they're just
dirty or is it because they're broken?
[1:23:21] » See, that's I I mean, I don't
And that was in response to this
[1:23:25] conversation. So, I don't think
>> What was?
[1:23:29] » What Robbie said about the five cans a
week.
[1:23:31] » Yeah, no. He's
He's listening. He's helping us on this
[1:23:34] conversation.
>> like it's just like, "Oh, it's been it's
[1:23:38] old and it's a replacement." It seems
like there has been some abuse of that.
[1:23:43] » Honestly, if they nudge it to 50, I
think that's fair.
[1:23:46] » I I'm I'm I'm in favor of that, too. And
then maybe to Jason's point, we have a
[1:23:51] more lengthy conversation about it.
>> Really?
[1:23:54] » It's up to you.
>> I think this has been long enough.
[1:23:57] » [laughter]
>> Yeah, we've talked about trash enough. I
[1:23:58] I make make a motion that we move out of
the public hearing.
[1:24:02] » Katie has motioned to close the public
hearing.
[1:24:04] » Second.
>> Second by Bob. All in favor say aye.
[1:24:08] » Aye.
>> Aye. We're you're now Public Hearing is
[1:24:11] now closed. I think everyone knows how
we all feel.
[1:24:14] Um would we be able to entertain a
motion to approve ordinance 20 26-12
[1:24:22] modifying the replacement container fee.
>> I will make it a an amended an amendment
[1:24:30] to ordinance number 2026-12
um modifying the replacement container
[1:24:37] fee from $25
each replacement [clears throat] to $50
[1:24:42] each replacement
>> that.
[1:24:44] » and recommend approval
with that amendment.
[1:24:49] » I'll second that motion.
>> Okay. A motion by Katie
[1:24:53] um and a second by
David
[1:25:00] to approve 2026-12
with
[1:25:06] the replacement container modified from
25 to $50. Is that correct?
[1:25:12] » Yes.
>> Correct.
[1:25:13] » A roll call vote, Bob.
>> Aye.
[1:25:15] » David
>> Aye.
[1:25:16] » Katie
>> Aye.
[1:25:17] » Jason
>> Nay.
[1:25:19] » No. And Tim
>> Aye.
[1:25:22] » Okay.
Based on the roll call vote, motion
[1:25:25] passes with four votes yes, one no.
[1:25:30] Our next item for consideration
[1:25:34] uh
[1:25:37] Jason, thank you, by the way.
>> Yeah. Sure.
[1:25:40] » Just being willing to stand on principle
and and why you feel that way.
[1:25:44] » I'm not offended. I just Yeah. It's why
I ran to be up here to make these votes.
[1:25:50] » Um our next item consideration is
approval of the city fraud and abuse
[1:25:54] policy. There's a reason why we need to
insert this. Cody's going to explain
[1:25:57] that real quick.
>> So, this policy So, this is really
[1:26:01] Liam's policy. I'm just I'm helping
present it. So, um if you remember the
[1:26:06] next agenda items are five fraud risk
assessments. We get points for the
[1:26:10] different policies that we have. So,
this is one of them that we've been
[1:26:13] lacking. So, Liam put this together. Um
I believe he said it was basically taken
[1:26:18] from the state's template. So, this gets
us a few more points on the next thing.
[1:26:22] So, we're just bringing this to you to
help strengthen some of the fraud and
[1:26:26] abuse
and the reporting associated with it in
[1:26:31] the city.
>> And I've read through it, too. I've read
[1:26:34] through the complaints and whistleblower
protection.
[1:26:37] Um the assessment this is I mean it's
it's good policy to have this in the
[1:26:42] city.
Any discussion on this at all?
[1:26:46] » No.
>> Looked pretty thorough to me.
[1:26:49] » Okay. [clears throat]
Is there a motion?
[1:26:52] » Yeah, I move that we approve
the
[1:26:55] reporting fraud or abuse
um
[1:26:59] » policy
>> policy
[1:27:00] » policy
>> Second.
[1:27:02] » A motion by Tim and a second by Jason.
All in favor say I.
[1:27:06] » I.
>> Any opposed?
[1:27:09] Okay.
Um
[1:27:11] consider approval of the city fraud and
wait
[1:27:15] This is an assessment.
>> Second one. This is not a policy.
[1:27:17] » The fraud risk assessment, right? Is
that the one?
[1:27:20] » Yep.
>> Um from the office of the state auditor.
[1:27:24] » So, we're required annually to present
this to you. And as you can see, if you
[1:27:28] remember what we scored last year, this
is just five points higher. I believe
[1:27:32] Liam's going to continue working on some
of these other policies to help increase
[1:27:35] our score. The only place this really
takes an impact is on our audit in our
[1:27:41] state compliance report. If you look at
the top of page 39, depending upon it
[1:27:46] says if we're very low, low, or
moderate. Some of this is pretty
[1:27:51] arbitrary.
Like the point ranking and stuff is just
[1:27:55] what the state auditor came up with
several years ago. Um and I'm sure Liam
[1:28:00] will continue to work on some of the
other policies. But, if you have any
[1:28:02] questions, I can answer them for you.
But, we're just required to present it
[1:28:06] to you annually.
Um and that's
[1:28:08] » question I have is to fulfill this, do
we have to take our annual fraud waste
[1:28:13] and abuse training?
>> Yes.
[1:28:15] » And get the certificate to validate.
>> I don't believe so.
[1:28:19] » Haven't we already done that?
>> Um you might have.
[1:28:23] » I had to do one.
>> Okay.
[1:28:24] » Yeah, I had to
>> Do you mean your conflict of interest?
[1:28:27] » why?
>> Yeah.
[1:28:28] » Just new members have to do it?
>> I think so.
[1:28:30] » Yeah.
>> Okay.
[1:28:31] » Yeah.
And some of the other trainings are
[1:28:33] required for other stuff like the open
and public meetings act training. Like
[1:28:36] that's a totally different requirement.
This one's just about that assessment.
[1:28:41] Okay, so
>> Now all that said, um
[1:28:44] my day job we're very technology
focused. Uh we do these
[1:28:49] assessments and audits and trainings
with all of our employees every single
[1:28:54] year. So if we're not having to do that
every single year, that's a pretty low
[1:28:57] burden on on all of us.
But it wouldn't be out of line to expect
[1:29:03] everyone to do that training every year.
>> Mhm.
[1:29:06] » [clears throat]
>> That's why I asked cuz
[1:29:08] in order for people that I worked for in
the past to get credit
[1:29:12] like from the state, we had to prove by
our certificate count how many people
[1:29:16] complied.
>> Got it.
[1:29:19] » I don't think [clears throat] with this
we have to do that.
[1:29:21] » Okay. Well, if we do, you'll let us
know.
[1:29:24] » Yeah.
Yeah.
[1:29:25] » Here you go.
>> Okay. Thanks, Cody.
[1:29:27] » That's all that is.
>> We What do we need here? Approval.
[1:29:32] » the fraud wis fraud risk assessment from
the office of the state auditor.
[1:29:38] » Second.
>> Motion by
[1:29:41] uh Bob to approve, second by
Jason. All in favor say I.
[1:29:46] » I.
>> I.
[1:29:48] » Any opposed?
Okay, next item is I,
[1:29:53] um
consideration to cancel
[1:29:57] our city council meeting on July 2nd,
2026, mainly due to all of the 4th of
[1:30:03] July Freedom Festival activities. We'll
be very busy that week.
[1:30:09] » I make a motion we cancel our July 2nd
City Council meeting.
[1:30:13] » Bob has
>> There's one one little small thing that
[1:30:16] we have to just consider.
Um the business license that we deferred
[1:30:21] today
was going to come up next week, so we'll
[1:30:24] have to defer it another 2 weeks, which
I don't think
[1:30:26] » Which one are you referencing?
>> The construction
[1:30:30] the construction company.
>> That we That is not scheduled until we
[1:30:33] first schedule in a meeting with Liam.
>> Okay.
[1:30:36] » I thought Well, we I called him
>> with legal.
[1:30:39] » I called him at your request and told
him we're deferring his
[1:30:43] action from tonight for 2 weeks. That
would have been on the 2nd.
[1:30:47] » Um
>> Do you want me to call him again?
[1:30:49] » Maybe because I don't know what's going
to come from our discussion with legal
[1:30:52] counsel on that.
>> Okay.
[1:30:54] » And
Uh that And that's the night of our
[1:30:57] rodeo. So, we won't be available.
>> And the talent show and several other
[1:31:01] things.
>> I mean, we just won't have a council
[1:31:03] available, so I don't know how we'd do
that anyway,
[1:31:05] » I just wanted some guidance on how to
handle the Hagley Road issue.
[1:31:09] » Any Any
>> I mean, I think I'd recommend I think
[1:31:11] that was our marching orders was to have
an offline discussion with him and legal
[1:31:16] counsel to determine a path forward to
recommend to you.
[1:31:19] » Well, didn't you already do that?
>> We haven't met with legal and him. So,
[1:31:23] just so everyone knows, this business
license came before the council 2 weeks
[1:31:28] ago. There were several issues with what
was being presented,
[1:31:33] which wasn't permitted in the code.
Uh we didn't have legal here to help us
[1:31:39] on that night, so we tabled that
decision.
[1:31:42] When we reached out with Liam, our legal
counsel there, he recommended we set a
[1:31:46] meeting with this individual based on
his application because of
[1:31:52] it because of how much isn't permitted
in the code. And he wanted to sit down
[1:31:58] with them before we brought them back
before the council. That was per our
[1:32:02] attorney.
So, I think we follow that
[1:32:06] council before we schedule anything with
him. Is that okay?
[1:32:10] » That's okay. We just He is anticipating
that he's coming back on the 2nd of July
[1:32:14] after our last communication with him.
>> So, yeah, let him know that
[1:32:17] » I'll just let him know. That's all I was
asking.
[1:32:19] » And I don't even know if we let him know
when the next one will be in
[1:32:22] » say it's open-ended.
>> Well, let's let's just tell him it'll be
[1:32:25] based on the meeting
>> Okay.
[1:32:27] » with legal counsel.
>> Okay.
[1:32:29] » Is that okay? Does that sound right to
everybody?
[1:32:32] » to know what to tell him.
>> Okay. I think that's the right move.
[1:32:35] » I'd like to second Katie's motion.
>> Okay.
[1:32:38] » Cancel.
>> We will
[1:32:41] motion by Katie to
>> Cancel.
[1:32:45] » Wait a minute. Just
>> Cancel the July 2nd City Council
[1:32:48] meeting.
>> I got lost there for a minute. To cancel
[1:32:51] the July 2nd City Council meeting and
who seconded that? Jason?
[1:32:56] All in favor say I.
>> I.
[1:32:59] » Any opposed?
Okay. That council meeting has been
[1:33:02] canceled.
Now we are finally at our
[1:33:07] follow-up remarks and those that
submitted have been reviewed.
[1:33:12] Let's just go down cuz we have so much
going on. Tim, do you have anything to
[1:33:15] report?
>> tonight.
[1:33:17] » Jason?
>> No, I sent email with any any comments
[1:33:20] ahead.
>> Okay. Katie?
[1:33:22] » I did leave a couple of things off of my
report that I forgot in the interim.
[1:33:27] » Yeah.
>> Um the RFP for the general plan
[1:33:32] update is going out. We've looked at we
have kind of a short list of about seven
[1:33:38] to eight seven or eight firms that we
that they that WFRC is going to ask to
[1:33:46] propose on
on our general plan update. And then
[1:33:53] once we get those RFPs back, we will
have kind of like an a
[1:33:57] um an advisory committee to kind of go
through and score those proposals to
[1:34:02] select a contractor to do the general
plan update.
[1:34:06] So, we'll be asking a few people from
planning commission to help out with
[1:34:09] that review of those
um proposals to select a contractor.
[1:34:14] And then um
we are at our last parks committee
[1:34:19] parks committee meeting we discussed um
you know, we had a lot a great
[1:34:24] outcry of support for
community members um helping maintain
[1:34:30] the pump track when we had our last
conversation about the pump track. Uh
[1:34:36] the parks committee is going to host a
pump track maintenance
[1:34:41] um organizing meeting
uh sometime in the next month and so all
[1:34:46] of those that
want to be involved with maintaining the
[1:34:51] pump track um we they're invited to come
to that meeting and we'll discuss
[1:34:56] assignments and uh responsibilities and
get those people that uh were so
[1:35:02] passionate about the pump track and
dedicating time to it put to work.
[1:35:07] Um so, I'll let everybody know when that
meeting is. And then
[1:35:11] just a follow up to my question about
the business license for the fireworks
[1:35:15] stand on the corner
of 1800 and 2000.
[1:35:20] » [clears throat]
>> What happens if they don't come in for a
[1:35:23] temporary business license?
>> Um well, they're operating illegally in
[1:35:28] our city as are
we know some
[1:35:32] home businesses, same thing.
Um at that point
[1:35:37] where it's temporary, by the time we get
our code enforcement officer out there,
[1:35:41] they're probably gone.
>> Yeah.
[1:35:43] » So, I don't know. I mean
>> We just try to make sure that they don't
[1:35:45] have something already. They've been
there every year. I don't know if
[1:35:48] there's any kind of
>> We don't have time to communicate. They
[1:35:51] generally set up and start reselling to
people for come in
[1:35:55] the state
celebrations.
[1:35:57] » Do you know him? Does anyone know him?
I don't know him either. Maybe I could
[1:36:02] pay a visit to him and just ask him
you know, you're willing to come in and
[1:36:06] get a business license. It's simple.
It's easy to do.
[1:36:09] » Except for we don't have the
time to approve it before the
[1:36:13] » I don't think we have to approve it. I
think only certain business license
[1:36:19] licenses raise to the threshold of
needing city council approval. There's a
[1:36:23] lot that the office just approves when
they come in.
[1:36:26] We're not approving every single
business license that comes to the
[1:36:29] office.
>> They'll set this up now for the 4th,
[1:36:32] close it down, open it again for the
24th for 3 or 4 days, and then they'll
[1:36:35] go away.
Um
[1:36:38] » So, could we prevent them from opening
back up if they
[1:36:40] » Well, we could, but I think we got to
find out what the precedent for them
[1:36:44] being here is. I don't know what that
is.
[1:36:48] » I also wonder if there's a realistic
possibility that they think they got a
[1:36:51] business license a year before, and so
they're
[1:36:54] » And then it just grandfathers.
>> Well, if it's the same person, no.
[1:36:57] » Or do they get a business license for
several Or is it grandfathered in a
[1:37:01] separate
>> umbrella?
[1:37:02] » I don't think anyone's
>> I don't know how you'd get that on a
[1:37:05] temporary license.
>> Covers, I don't know.
[1:37:07] Do you want me to pull a good gas on it,
too? Do you make them go to the fire
[1:37:10] district and get their fire inspection
and registration with them, too?
[1:37:13] » Well, the guy that came today
>> He didn't.
[1:37:16] » Cuz I believe technically they're
supposed to. So, I'm just saying if
[1:37:18] you're making them get a temporary here,
you probably ought to make them go
[1:37:21] there, too.
Cuz that's as big a part as
[1:37:24] » Yeah, that's that's just my biggest
concern. I'm like, we have this guy came
[1:37:27] in and we're not enforcing it equally
across the board.
[1:37:31] » That's a good
>> Well, we need to go over there and see.
[1:37:34] There's nobody there.
>> Nobody there till they open up.
[1:37:36] » you're ask I don't know, but I can
follow up with legal and find out, and
[1:37:41] then we'll know what then we'll know
going forward what the steps will be.
[1:37:44] » Can sheriff over
>> That's a good question, though.
[1:37:47] » Yeah, it is.
>> 2%
[1:37:49] » And you only get that because it's a
temporary license.
[1:37:52] » Mhm.
>> And in this in this instance, it's a
[1:37:55] three or four-week license. They're
done.
[1:37:59] Okay. Anything else?
>> That's it.
[1:38:02] » Great comments, Bob.
David?
[1:38:04] » Nothing else.
>> Just I have a couple things just make
[1:38:07] sure everyone's aware of. Um
First, there's been a lot of questions
[1:38:12] being asked about cameras that are set
up throughout the city. You've probably
[1:38:15] seen them as you've dropped driven
around. They're on top of the
[1:38:19] uh lot most of them are on top of the
speed limit signs. That is we know about
[1:38:24] that. Big Brother is not watching over
us. Uh that is for a Those are for
[1:38:29] traffic studies being done that we've
contracted with um
[1:38:33] to look for improvements for traffic
study for traffic for improvements on
[1:38:38] our roads. Uh maybe future lights and
and roundabouts and stuff like that. So,
[1:38:44] there's purpose behind that. That's why
they're there.
[1:38:47] Um I wanted to reply report back on we
had I had
[1:38:52] asked UDOT for some help on 2700
specific to the 2575 West intersection.
[1:39:01] Um
This is
[1:39:03] Jason, this is where you were famous on
the news.
[1:39:06] » Oh, yeah.
>> Um
[1:39:08] I I had asked and and
asked them about the condition of or
[1:39:14] status of a traffic signal going in
there
[1:39:18] asking if we could have a roundabout as
well.
[1:39:21] Uh Council, I put you on that email. I
think you saw their response.
[1:39:26] They
will be conducting another traffic study
[1:39:29] this fall in that location
specifically after school set school is
[1:39:34] back in session.
Following that traffic study will
[1:39:38] determine what the the steps are,
whether they authorize a signal.
[1:39:43] They basically did say they're not going
to put a roundabout there. They they
[1:39:47] don't want to consider one there.
So, they will consider a traffic signal
[1:39:51] there pending the traffic study.
So, again, a lot of that's out of our
[1:39:56] our control. You know them very well.
>> No.
[1:39:59] » [laughter]
>> So, when they do the traffic study,
[1:40:01] everybody just drive that route.
>> I know. As soon as we know that they're
[1:40:04] conducting it, we'll send out a memo. Go
Go drive.
[1:40:08] » route. Yeah, that's good.
>> Don't get
[1:40:10] » I'll never I didn't say that.
>> They'll get plenty of action just from
[1:40:12] the local traffic though, from the
school.
[1:40:15] Um the next thing from UDot there was
also the consideration to move the
[1:40:21] school crossing where Hogel's Corner is,
to move it back by the canal.
[1:40:26] Um and or combine the traffic or the the
the crossing at Walk West Junior High
[1:40:33] to eliminate the multiple movement on
that road. They just simply won't do it.
[1:40:38] They they They they They have their
reasons. They feel like that it's based
[1:40:43] on their studies,
uh the intersection of Hogel's Corner
[1:40:46] with where the signals already exist,
they feel are safer
[1:40:50] for the kids to cross where cars are
already planning to stop from for the
[1:40:55] lights.
Um
[1:40:57] they have data to to to back that up and
support that decision. Again, these are
[1:41:02] UDot roads. Those are that's their
decisions. We have asked them to
[1:41:06] consider these changes. They've refused
at that point because for their for
[1:41:11] valid reasons that they have data to
support.
[1:41:15] Um then the question was asked, "What
about if we do our tunnel
[1:41:20] project and trying to get
traffic or trying to get crossings off
[1:41:25] that road
during heavy traffic areas?" They will
[1:41:29] consider it at that point. So, if we can
as a as a city put that as a priority
[1:41:36] and I think that is a priority by by us
to try to
[1:41:40] figure out how to
budget for and receive grants for
[1:41:46] what Utah what those
the students from Utah State came out
[1:41:50] presented to us to install a tunnel
tunnel crossing near the canal.
[1:41:57] At that point UDOT would consider maybe
allowing that crossing for the students
[1:42:02] to move and consolidate to the tunnel.
So, there
[1:42:07] Did any comments on that?
>> And I just also let you know so UDOT has
[1:42:14] a uh
prioritization and programming schedule
[1:42:18] for not just investments in highways,
but investments in active transportation
[1:42:25] and pedestrian safety. And the 2700
North overpass
[1:42:33] that
or underpass is on the ranked list for
[1:42:38] the active transportation improvement
fund, so the A tip
[1:42:43] which puts it in
which puts it in that um
[1:42:49] constrained category that first phase
with so
[1:42:54] um
with the ranking there. It's lower
[1:42:57] ranked but we can do things to increase
the ranking and then once funding
[1:43:03] becomes available, they fund projects
based off of them being on this list.
[1:43:09] And so that underpass or overpass is on
this list for consideration for funding
[1:43:14] from UDOT.
>> So, I question maybe you don't know
[1:43:18] if we were to be able to budget for and
raise or raise funds for that project
[1:43:24] through other means, would that help
them push that up on priority?
[1:43:29] » Yes.
>> Okay.
[1:43:32] And and I bring that up, you know, to go
back to the Advantage Development, one
[1:43:37] of the things that we worked really hard
in that negotiation with them was to was
[1:43:43] to
create a developer contribution to the
[1:43:46] city,
which is in the in the
[1:43:49] realm of about $4,000 per lot.
And on 336 lots, if you do the math,
[1:43:56] it's about a $1.5 million chunk to the
city.
[1:44:01] Um we now have some significant funds we
can start in a budget to maybe move this
[1:44:06] forward make it a reality sooner sooner
than later.
[1:44:10] » I think this is one thing that we
continue to lobby the region for in the
[1:44:13] our meetings with them.
And that and you know, it's that is in
[1:44:18] the same position as the 2700
>> Mhm.
[1:44:21] » North interchanges. It's it's on the
list. Now, how the commission decides to
[1:44:26] fund it is up to the commission and we
need to utilize our partners at the
[1:44:32] region to
>> office.
[1:44:34] » to help us
lot to help us
[1:44:38] make the commission realize how
important those are to us.
[1:44:43] » Make sense.
[1:44:45] Great.
The last thing from UDot there was they
[1:44:49] are conducting currently conducting a
traffic study on 2000
[1:44:54] um near where the old where the public
works building facilities are across the
[1:44:59] street from that church to install a
beacon signal
[1:45:04] and a and a crossing walk. So, that
>> over on Harrisville Road.
[1:45:09] » Yep. And they said and and I'll just let
everyone know the reason that was
[1:45:14] increased on their priority list and
this is what um
[1:45:18] What's her name?
>> Carrie?
[1:45:20] » No.
>> Paige?
[1:45:22] » Paige.
Paige said the reason that was bumped up
[1:45:25] is cuz of all of the residents sending
in that
[1:45:29] not complaint but the
issue you know you can submit an issue
[1:45:33] to UDot. That's how that was bumped up.
So, kudos to the residents you and that
[1:45:37] made a difference. And that And I think
all of us have told have a have helped
[1:45:42] the residents understand how to do that.
>> And I think similarly for the underpass
[1:45:48] and 1400 at 2700, that same kind of
community support
[1:45:53] » So, what is it?
>> goes along with
[1:45:55] » It It there's a there's a place on the
UDot website
[1:46:00] re- region one where you can go into
It's like submitting a ticket.
[1:46:03] » Okay.
>> And you can go in there and explain what
[1:46:06] the issue is and where it's at.
They had a ton of residents supply that
[1:46:10] for this location. So, to Katie's point,
the more that do that at 2700
[1:46:15] for these two items, that that helps
voice our concern.
[1:46:19] » This is a squeaky wheel issue.
>> It really is.
[1:46:21] » region, reach out to the transportation
commission. They're public bodies just
[1:46:25] like us and accept public comment.
>> Great. Um and then just lastly, everyone
[1:46:31] knows our 4th of July Freedom Festival.
Uh you'll start to see a bunch of
[1:46:35] banners and posters being hung. Lots of
announcements have gone out. Our kickoff
[1:46:40] begins next Friday with uh Casey Elliott
from from Gentry
[1:46:45] um and the Mountain Thunder um What
are they called? The shoot the
[1:46:51] » Mountain Thunder shooting.
>> Yeah, Utah Mountain Thunder. That's
[1:46:54] going to be awesome. But we're excited
to kick that off on Friday and then that
[1:46:58] kind of that whole next the whole next
week is filled with events. So, uh check
[1:47:03] out our new website farwestcity.gov.
That That has all of the events and
[1:47:08] items uh listed there. If you want to be
notified in real time, um download our
[1:47:14] city app by go by going to um
by searching for Penny, p e n y, and you
[1:47:21] can download our new city app and and
we've had several residents reach out
[1:47:25] and say, "Hey, this is cool. I'm getting
notified every time you make an make an
[1:47:30] announcement or every time every time
there's a new
[1:47:34] new event, you're getting a ping in your
phone letting you know." So, if you want
[1:47:37] to be notified in real time, that's
where it happens is on the our new city
[1:47:41] app. Uh that's all I have.
>> Did you say .net or .gov?
[1:47:45] » .gov
>> Okay.
[1:47:47] » Not I know what it is. I just want to
make sure that's what it was saying.
[1:47:50] » I hope I said .gov. Far West City.gov
That is our new website and .net will be
[1:47:57] decommissioning
Already? It's already forwarding to
[1:48:01] .gov, so
It is up and running. We'll make a
[1:48:05] formal announcement next week. We didn't
want to cloud with all the 4th of July
[1:48:09] announcements, but
There's one last
[1:48:12] thing there.
>> I'd like to move we adjourn.
[1:48:15] » Motion by Jason to adjourn.
>> Second.
[1:48:18] » Second by Tim and Katie.
All in favor say I.
[1:48:22] » I.
>> I.
[1:48:23] » I.
>> Motion
[1:48:25] Thanks, everyone.
[1:48:36] » I was going to
[1:48:43] » months
>> for any of this calendar year to be