1 00:01:37,870 --> 00:01:42,290 Call to order for the Fayette County Board of Education work session. 2 00:01:44,620 --> 00:01:58,580 First off, we'll start with approval of the agenda. Are there any changes to the agenda? I so recommend approval. All right, I need a motion to approve the agenda. Mr. Huff motions, Mr. Anderson seconds, all in favor. 3 00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:03,720 By those, Dr. Patterson, I'll turn it over to you for presentations. 4 00:02:04,540 --> 00:02:05,000 Thank you. 5 00:02:05,340 --> 00:02:05,980 Board members. 6 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:06,840 Good afternoon. 7 00:02:07,380 --> 00:02:11,440 I'd like to invite Maggie Walls, Assistant Superintendent of Student Achievement, 8 00:02:12,020 --> 00:02:14,800 come forward to kind of review the strategic plan. 9 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:23,600 We do this, we edit our strategic plan a couple of times a year and so very little new things 10 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:28,960 I think she'll probably emphasize a few things that maybe are a little different, but I'll 11 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,140 give it a turn over to Ms. Walls. 12 00:02:30,220 --> 00:02:30,480 Thank you. 13 00:02:31,340 --> 00:02:31,920 Thank you. 14 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,140 Good afternoon, Chairman, board members, Dr. Patterson. 15 00:02:35,700 --> 00:02:39,000 As you said, I'm just going to highlight some of the things that we're doing in our strategic 16 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:39,420 plan. 17 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,280 These are our performance measures. 18 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:42,260 They have not changed. 19 00:02:42,940 --> 00:02:44,520 I just put them there for your reference. 20 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,900 When you think of curriculum and instruction in the first four and a half weeks of school, 21 00:02:48,900 --> 00:02:53,720 These are some things that we've really focused on with teachers and with leaders. 22 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,540 One is deconstruction of the standard, so that's something that we said as a goal last year. 23 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:04,720 We're still working on it across all of our content areas, but many, if not most, are complete. 24 00:03:05,660 --> 00:03:10,780 Resource implementation, as you know, we adopted new K5 resources for ELA. 25 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,420 That has been a very heavy lift at the start of the school year, as you can imagine. 26 00:03:15,420 --> 00:03:21,900 and the same way that there's a steep learning curve for students who are learning new skills. 27 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,220 There's a steep learning curve for adults who are learning to use new resources, 28 00:03:26,860 --> 00:03:31,140 which is where we will be with grade 6 through 12 in ELA next year, 29 00:03:31,300 --> 00:03:34,780 when we finish the adoption. We're going to start the pilot in October, 30 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,040 hoping to adopt new resources in the spring. 31 00:03:38,740 --> 00:03:41,680 When it comes to leadership and professional development, 32 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:49,220 We began what we called the Fayette 5, which was just instructional best practices that you would look for in any learning cycle. 33 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:58,600 So we are continuing that work with exploring and deepening our understanding of the science of learning and how we use that to design high leverage tasks for students. 34 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:10,260 I think one of the biggest levers that we have to pull as the Department of Curriculum and Instruction is to make sure that the tasks that we give to teachers or provide to teachers to provide students with. 35 00:04:10,260 --> 00:04:15,480 It really is at the level of the standard, that it really is a rigorous task, and that 36 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,160 it does require reasoning and critical thinking on the part of the student. 37 00:04:20,500 --> 00:04:27,340 PLC training is another one of our efforts, so we've done a lot to create time and space 38 00:04:27,340 --> 00:04:34,140 for the PLC, and now we're really trying to hone how those PLC leaders, the skills they 39 00:04:34,140 --> 00:04:38,700 have, but also the tools that they can use to better lead their peers in PLCs. 40 00:04:43,020 --> 00:04:47,220 Professional learning community is a community of teachers that teach the same subject and 41 00:04:47,220 --> 00:04:47,680 grade level. 42 00:04:50,260 --> 00:04:55,220 With accountability, one of the things that we worked on in curriculum and instruction 43 00:04:55,220 --> 00:05:00,840 specifically was helping coordinators better understand their impact in the schools to the 44 00:05:01,470 --> 00:05:06,100 teacher and student level, so we're still working on developing our key performance indicators 45 00:05:06,100 --> 00:05:11,320 And then targeted support, we started quarterly walkthroughs as a team last year. 46 00:05:11,420 --> 00:05:12,960 We're continuing that this year. 47 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:19,860 It helps us better understand how the resources and the curriculum tools that we're providing actually look and 48 00:05:19,860 --> 00:05:22,580 feel in the classroom to teachers and to students. 49 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,560 Strategic goal number two has to do with stakeholder engagement. 50 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,920 We are still running Fayette Standard meetings. 51 00:05:33,460 --> 00:05:36,200 We're also still trying to increase academic, 52 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:41,220 extracurricular opportunities for students on our campuses outside of athletics. 53 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:47,260 In addition, we thought this year we would start delivering assessment literacy sessions 54 00:05:47,260 --> 00:05:53,540 at all of our campuses for parents so that they can better understand how we develop assessments 55 00:05:53,540 --> 00:05:56,680 but also how we use assessments to guide our instruction. 56 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,880 And then we're also still in the process of conducting a comprehensive review of current 57 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:07,980 technology. That's technology used in our classrooms, but that's also our own use of technology to 58 00:06:07,980 --> 00:06:15,180 communicate with stakeholders to see what actually gives us the most bang for the buck when it comes 59 00:06:15,180 --> 00:06:21,920 to how we are trying to communicate with, yes. Also, I actually had a parent yesterday come to me and 60 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,540 said, I don't understand and she was exasperated. She's a, like, high school parent. Right. 61 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:34,460 I don't remember, infinite campus, parents, parents, parents, she had like three or four 62 00:06:34,460 --> 00:06:38,060 that she shouted out and I'm like, well they all have their own reasons. I said, I know 63 00:06:38,060 --> 00:06:42,160 we've been streamlining, but yeah, it's a good exercise because I actually have heard 64 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,740 from people that are, they're becoming numb to, maybe they don't even want to open because 65 00:06:46,740 --> 00:06:48,000 they get too much, if you will. 66 00:06:48,220 --> 00:06:48,580 Indeed. 67 00:06:49,580 --> 00:06:51,960 And they probably get emails from the building principal if I had to get. 68 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:52,180 Right. 69 00:06:52,180 --> 00:07:00,960 Right? Well, it's just, yeah, over communication has a problem for sure, but also with what we are communicating with, 70 00:07:01,020 --> 00:07:07,320 I think it's really important to understand how that's received and how it's useful and whether or not it's read or used. 71 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,940 We chart opens on your emails that we send out like at the building and the district level. 72 00:07:13,700 --> 00:07:16,800 We do not anymore. We use to. 73 00:07:17,980 --> 00:07:28,220 very easy. As part of the assessment review or the technology review, it would certainly 74 00:07:28,220 --> 00:07:33,420 be worth putting together a focus group of parents and elementary, middle, and high. 75 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,100 Oh, for sure. And just have them go through emails. 76 00:07:36,740 --> 00:07:42,680 Oh, well, yes. That too. Yes. But we're also looking at how we're using just technology in general 77 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,860 right in our classroom but absolutely. 78 00:07:49,450 --> 00:07:52,450 And then strategic goal number three, when it comes to human resources, 79 00:07:53,130 --> 00:07:54,950 we've done a good job of hiring 80 00:07:54,950 --> 00:08:02,730 itinerant teachers. The problem is we often end up using those itinerant teachers as teachers before we really even get to use them as itinerants. 81 00:08:03,090 --> 00:08:07,690 And so it is a good practice, but it is a practice that we probably could do better at. 82 00:08:07,850 --> 00:08:12,010 Maybe higher more if we could find them because sometimes teachers do leave. 83 00:08:12,010 --> 00:08:18,050 They do move, they are not here when it's time to start the school year and so we've been fortunate with the 84 00:08:18,050 --> 00:08:20,970 I-tinterants that we've had, but that's still obviously a need. 85 00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:26,990 Financial literacy education for teachers with 15 or more years, that's something that I believe we were 86 00:08:26,990 --> 00:08:29,970 going to do with the YOS platform, if, right? 87 00:08:30,430 --> 00:08:30,570 Yes. 88 00:08:30,790 --> 00:08:33,450 Just to invest in... 89 00:08:33,450 --> 00:08:33,530 Yeah. 90 00:08:34,890 --> 00:08:38,690 So something that we would do just to kind of invest in our employees. 91 00:08:42,140 --> 00:08:44,340 Why do they have to have 15 or more years? 92 00:08:44,940 --> 00:08:46,120 Why can't it be any teacher? 93 00:08:46,580 --> 00:08:47,560 What could be any teachers? 94 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:52,580 But we already do stuff for teachers who are kind of just getting into education. 95 00:08:53,060 --> 00:08:55,160 We do a lot for brand new teachers. 96 00:08:55,420 --> 00:08:58,420 We do stuff for those who just have a few years of experience. 97 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:04,400 So we just decided that those with 15 or more years, they may have missed it. 98 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,320 They may have forgotten it, but you're getting a lot closer to the end. 99 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,700 And are there some things that we could do better to educate you on before you get to retirement? 100 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:14,800 But we do have things for the earlier years. 101 00:09:15,340 --> 00:09:21,980 Is it possible to create a composite of what you're presenting to those with 15 years or more 102 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,800 to the teachers that have less than 15 years? 103 00:09:29,180 --> 00:09:34,340 Because I understand what you're saying they may forget by the time they hit 15 years 104 00:09:34,340 --> 00:09:42,680 and their closer to retirement, but I think it's better to have the information early on and 105 00:09:42,680 --> 00:09:48,820 where something that they could refer to, like online, there are several online tools 106 00:09:48,820 --> 00:09:54,300 that the district has, something that they can actually refer to to keep them abreast of what's 107 00:09:54,300 --> 00:10:00,540 going on so that they can look forward to the investments and to retiring. 108 00:10:00,540 --> 00:10:03,800 Yeah, and we do, and with them in, you know, to get engaged. 109 00:10:04,100 --> 00:10:08,800 Yes, and core bridge financial that we work with, they provide a lot of training, you 110 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:14,320 can sign up for their newsletters and so forth, but it really is just kind of seeking 111 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:19,920 them to get more involved in their financial resources that we offer as a district. 112 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,080 Because if they've blown it at the 15 years, then it's going to be tough to catch up. 113 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:25,480 True. 114 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:31,860 True. Other things that we have going on in human resources, we obviously are still doing 115 00:10:31,860 --> 00:10:37,360 leadership development programs. Right now our admin intern application is open for those 116 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:42,380 who are educators who are thinking about going into administration. And then we're also still 117 00:10:42,380 --> 00:10:48,460 wanting to study and consider awarding retention supplements for our hardest to fill ECS positions, 118 00:10:48,820 --> 00:10:50,200 which are in some of our programs. 119 00:10:50,900 --> 00:10:55,980 As well as class and question on the admittance, I've sat in some of the programs in the classes. 120 00:10:56,420 --> 00:11:00,300 All the candidates for that, is it a requirement they're a previous teacher or could they be 121 00:11:00,860 --> 00:11:03,820 an executive from Coca-Cola that got into education hypothetically? 122 00:11:06,050 --> 00:11:07,910 So an aspiring assistant person. 123 00:11:07,910 --> 00:11:11,370 If they currently work for Coca-Cola, they are not eligible. 124 00:11:11,810 --> 00:11:12,290 That's what I'm asking you. 125 00:11:12,290 --> 00:11:15,710 If they currently work for Fayette County Public Schools, they are. 126 00:11:16,910 --> 00:11:17,190 Okay. 127 00:11:17,190 --> 00:11:20,330 Okay. Regardless of what their current role is at Fayette County Public Schools. 128 00:11:22,090 --> 00:11:22,530 Yes. 129 00:11:25,150 --> 00:11:30,670 Although if there are people out there working with Coca-Cola who prefer to work with Fayette County Public Schools. 130 00:11:30,810 --> 00:11:37,910 Okay. As a guy that has seen a lot of resumes for a lot of open positions over the years, certain applications like let me make it really easy. 131 00:11:38,170 --> 00:11:41,750 Elementary school would get a Brazilian applications for principal, right? High school would do not. 132 00:11:42,290 --> 00:11:46,990 is very different. The pool, the depth of the pool, the quality of the pool is very different. 133 00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:51,310 So, if you think out of the box, you could say, hey, the best administrators don't necessarily 134 00:11:51,310 --> 00:11:56,530 have to have previously been a history teacher at Back in Tosh High School, just a novel thought. 135 00:11:56,990 --> 00:12:00,410 An MBA from Stanford works at Coca-Cola decided they wanted to get into education, 136 00:12:00,570 --> 00:12:04,230 would be honestly a nice addition to the Fayette County team. That's all I'm saying. 137 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,280 Yes. Feel free to apply. 138 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:16,580 I mean, I'm out on that entire, but I would say this, well, yes, we can talk later, 139 00:12:16,620 --> 00:12:21,400 but I would say too that that leading a school and I do get leading a business. 140 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,960 I just say we need to rethink what we do, because we don't, you're going to attract 141 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:26,480 more people. 142 00:12:26,540 --> 00:12:30,540 Yeah, you're too slight to go, you're critical positions, we don't have lots of those 143 00:12:30,540 --> 00:12:30,840 applicants. 144 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,660 It's not like we're going to turn them away, the AP comp side, the physics, the Cout, BC teachers, 145 00:12:35,660 --> 00:12:36,660 we don't have tons of them. 146 00:12:36,660 --> 00:12:45,100 We have seen applications for principleships decline over the last, you know, probably 147 00:12:45,100 --> 00:12:52,320 seven, eight, ten years, where we're having to recruit, we're having to go to teachers 148 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:58,100 and saying we see leadership in you and encourage you, whereas we used to have a lot more 149 00:12:58,100 --> 00:13:00,080 people that were interested in it. 150 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,180 There's a lot of, I have my own reasons why. 151 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:10,520 But this leadership development lever that we're trying to pull is so critical because we 152 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,360 can't have great schools without great principals. 153 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,340 And quite frankly, we're having to create our own great principals. 154 00:13:17,580 --> 00:13:22,700 Well, I think the system does a really good job on the aspiring principal. 155 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:30,360 There's two programs, like the administrator who is looking to be a principal and then the teacher who's looking to be the administrator. 156 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,320 I think you do honestly an outstanding job. 157 00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:34,880 And we even have another one for teachers 158 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,940 who just want to lead other teachers, teachers. 159 00:13:36,980 --> 00:13:38,120 Okay, very cool. 160 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,640 It's just, it's probably, I don't know if we can emphasize it 161 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,580 enough how hard it is to find really good quality leaders. 162 00:13:46,660 --> 00:13:48,440 Either be a system principal principal. 163 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,820 There's just, it's getting harder out there. 164 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,680 I don't want to blame anybody, 165 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:58,860 but it's not, conditions are not always pleasant. 166 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:09,840 for principals to lead, and so we can only do so much, but it can be unattractive job sometimes. 167 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:28,850 I'm not that there is a dearth of qualified people, but the atmosphere in which they operate in that capacity has become difficult to accept. 168 00:14:28,850 --> 00:14:35,310 Well, in Fayette County, we're more blessed than other counties, but it's across the nation is that you know, it's 169 00:14:35,990 --> 00:14:38,610 It's a hard job, and it's not getting easier 170 00:14:40,410 --> 00:14:46,470 And you know, it's where our country is maybe is a bigger bigger thing, but 171 00:14:47,530 --> 00:14:49,150 public education is 172 00:14:49,150 --> 00:14:56,450 Is easy to attack and and you know these people at the principal ship 173 00:14:56,450 --> 00:14:59,870 I'll talk to our principal this morning and it's like, you know, I've got two parents that 174 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:29,700 My job would be, I wish I could do my job for these two parents, that deal. So that's how challenging it can be. But, you know, we're the role of the assistant superintendent principal supervisor, critical, the supporting principals, success, because you can't have a great school without a great principal. And that's, so I think that lever is so important for the board to understand, because it's really, 175 00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:34,620 It's almost that simple. It's like we get a good principle. I think you said this time 176 00:15:34,620 --> 00:15:41,100 and time again. That solves 90 percent, 90 plus percent of the issues. That's probably 177 00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:43,540 our biggest challenge is getting that right, right, person. 178 00:15:43,700 --> 00:15:52,040 Are we currently supplying our needs from the, um, development, internal development programs 179 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:57,400 or to, uh, I don't know, barely. Yeah. I think I understand your question. Is, is, is, 180 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,200 Are we? Is there enough supply to meet the demand? I would say no. 181 00:16:01,420 --> 00:16:01,500 No. 182 00:16:02,980 --> 00:16:03,980 We've hired a lot. 183 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,320 I would say in the last five years. 184 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,040 A lot of our folks are news, so we don't have many openings. 185 00:16:11,140 --> 00:16:16,030 When it comes to goal number four operational effectiveness, 186 00:16:16,630 --> 00:16:21,050 one of the things that we made a goal of ours is to provide training. 187 00:16:21,350 --> 00:16:23,290 I would call it hospitality training. 188 00:16:23,910 --> 00:16:26,210 Unreasonable hospitality if you're familiar with that, 189 00:16:26,210 --> 00:16:28,730 but really to work on de-escalation techniques 190 00:16:28,730 --> 00:16:31,270 and to just provide support for those who work 191 00:16:31,270 --> 00:16:33,770 in our front office, they're often your first line 192 00:16:33,770 --> 00:16:38,130 of defense that can either escalate or de-escalate, 193 00:16:38,250 --> 00:16:42,270 right, and to really support them in that role. 194 00:16:43,010 --> 00:16:45,190 Also, looking at our allotment guidelines, 195 00:16:45,650 --> 00:16:48,550 always looking to review that with human resources. 196 00:16:49,470 --> 00:16:51,930 We've implemented a comprehensive Chronic Apps 197 00:16:51,930 --> 00:16:52,650 and T plan. 198 00:16:53,250 --> 00:16:55,450 This is something that's a little new for our schools this year. 199 00:16:55,450 --> 00:17:08,810 We've always done things for students who are chronically absent, but we have had to change it a little this year, and then, of course, with East Bloss coming, we will be working with feeder pattern meetings to garner community input for things on the horizon. 200 00:17:12,470 --> 00:17:13,430 Any other questions? 201 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,940 I think we got them all in along the way. 202 00:17:18,500 --> 00:17:18,640 Right. 203 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:19,920 Maybe. 204 00:17:20,180 --> 00:17:20,660 Thank you. 205 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,680 Thank you, Ms. Walls. 206 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,520 The next three presentations are all Mr. Gray. 207 00:17:27,820 --> 00:17:34,500 I want to give it a little context, a little background information that I asked him to do. 208 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:46,280 Last year, when we talked about our enrollment declines, we said we needed to wait till the fall to make sure there wasn't going to be a change. 209 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:51,700 and that it wasn't just a couple of year trend that we were seeing. 210 00:17:52,460 --> 00:17:55,040 And so the reason why we brought this back is that, 211 00:17:55,300 --> 00:17:58,460 well, the falls here and we're down another, 212 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,260 and you'll first slide here kind of, 213 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:02,060 if you'll go to maybe the first slide already, 214 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,540 the first slide here shows you work, 215 00:18:04,620 --> 00:18:07,280 we're down another 378 students. 216 00:18:08,060 --> 00:18:10,700 And so this triggers us to think about, 217 00:18:10,900 --> 00:18:15,700 like, how do we do everything we can to not close buildings, 218 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,280 and try to be as efficient as we can with buildings that we have. 219 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,120 Closing schools would not be what I would want to do. 220 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,840 It looks like we're going to have to maybe tackle that in the future if we have to. 221 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:41,060 But that sort of gives you a little context of, hey, we said we were going to wait till the fall to kind of look and see what we needed to do with a couple of our facilities, try to save as much money as possible. 222 00:18:41,060 --> 00:18:46,460 And then so now we're here and we've got the data so Mr. Gray if you'll go through the your 223 00:18:46,460 --> 00:18:52,820 slides. Absolutely thank you Dr. Patterson. So you can see this first slide if you have a magnifying glass 224 00:18:52,820 --> 00:19:00,560 you can see the numbers so I'll kind of give you some context. The first year is 21-22 and we were 225 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:07,500 about 19,900. We bumped up a little bit in 23 to a little over 20,000 but we've been going down each 226 00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:14,980 year, about three, around 300 each year until this year were at 19,000-088. 227 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:20,160 So it is a five-year trend to going down and declining enrollment. 228 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,800 And I did go and look and thought, okay, what is it compared to our population? 229 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:30,640 So the population of Fayette County in this 2020 census was 119,000 just over that. 230 00:19:31,060 --> 00:19:33,900 Now it's about 125,000, it's the estimate. 231 00:19:33,900 --> 00:19:43,740 But when you look at the cohort by age, you see that that 5,000 increase in population 232 00:19:44,250 --> 00:19:48,760 is all in the senior group, is all in the 6,500, 65 years and older. 233 00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:56,400 The 18 and under cohort group has actually declined, not just as a percentage of the total, 234 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,680 but an actual number that's gone down 620. 235 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:05,640 If I remember from this presentation five years ago, wasn't the number 10 years ago like 236 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,560 21 and change, but really, it's not a five year decline. 237 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:13,560 It's more like a 10 to 15 year study decline with a bump up every now and then, but in 238 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:14,560 general, a study decline. 239 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:15,040 That's true. 240 00:20:15,420 --> 00:20:19,280 But I think that would, you know, because five years right around the time of COVID makes 241 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,000 me pause. 242 00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:23,000 But when I realized it's 10 to 15 years, it's a whole different conversation. 243 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:23,260 Yeah. 244 00:20:23,660 --> 00:20:23,760 Yeah. 245 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,440 It is a longer trend overall. 246 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:46,140 But you can see that, you know, as our, what I was trying to make a point there is that it's not just that the school enrollment is declined, but the pool for our students has declined as well, we're seeing the actual numbers, even though the population is going up in the county, the number of student age children is going down. 247 00:20:46,140 --> 00:20:49,820 And then when you look at what the birth rate is in the county, 248 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,880 it's lower than the statewide. 249 00:20:52,220 --> 00:20:54,660 Statewide, it's like 11.6 to 12. 250 00:20:55,260 --> 00:20:58,080 And in our counties, about 8.3 to 8.6, 251 00:20:58,380 --> 00:21:00,100 birth rate per 1,000 residents. 252 00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:03,460 So we do have a lower birth rate higher senior population. 253 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:09,300 Tom, what are the projections coming from county administrators? 254 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,620 I mean, we're doing a whole bunch of face lifting 255 00:21:12,620 --> 00:21:14,460 and all kinds of things around here 256 00:21:14,460 --> 00:21:22,580 that are new that are supposed to enhance the environment and make it more appealing to 257 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:29,060 not just the community that exists today, but an inducement to come here. 258 00:21:30,580 --> 00:21:33,040 Do we know is that what you're relying on for projections? 259 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:33,760 Or do we have? 260 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,120 Well, I mean, these are not projects. 261 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:35,980 This is actual. 262 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:36,860 You have to know. 263 00:21:36,860 --> 00:21:38,700 But as far as going forward. 264 00:21:38,940 --> 00:21:39,140 Right. 265 00:21:39,140 --> 00:21:39,200 Right. 266 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,500 If you point out, there's a long term trend here floating down. 267 00:21:43,940 --> 00:21:48,460 Can that be reduced by these current efforts or are we even making any effort to see? 268 00:21:48,500 --> 00:21:48,660 Yeah. 269 00:21:49,060 --> 00:21:52,860 I mean, you know, some of the, and we say county administrators, I would think you're talking 270 00:21:52,860 --> 00:21:59,040 about the county development for the county missioners, that group that is trying to bring businesses 271 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,940 or people to the county. 272 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:06,700 You know, those efforts are, I guess a lot of them are focused on businesses and livable 273 00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:12,480 down town and things of that nature, those don't tend, in my opinion, to bring, you know, 274 00:22:12,700 --> 00:22:18,380 family age as necessarily. So I don't know that that's really going to increase the student 275 00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:24,080 population per se. Okay. Yeah, good. Thank you. So we are considering that as far as, you know, 276 00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:28,440 looking forward. And Tom, did you do any analysis of the growth of alternative education options, 277 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:34,420 whether it's virtual slash local private or, you know, Christian schools at some time? No, it did 278 00:22:34,420 --> 00:22:38,140 It seems to have picked up, like I see the online marketing for different schools more. 279 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,080 It's definitely part of the story. 280 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,180 It's not all of it, obviously. 281 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:41,440 Yeah. 282 00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:47,400 I will say that, you know, when I looked at the, I did ask to pull the private school numbers. 283 00:22:48,340 --> 00:22:53,320 And when you look at over the last five years, yes, it had bumped up up to 20, in 2024. 284 00:22:54,020 --> 00:22:59,160 Maybe it was a little bit hard, but it actually is back down to around 1200 right now, which 285 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,860 is what it was about five years ago. 286 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:01,340 Okay. 287 00:23:01,340 --> 00:23:05,960 So, even though it did have an increase slightly, it doesn't seem to be back down a little bit this year. 288 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:21,180 Okay, and then if you look at, this is enrollment totals by feeder pattern, just to give you a picture of what's going on in the different overall feeder patterns, this is your Fayette County feeder pattern. 289 00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:32,040 You can see it's a little bit mixed to the schools, to the elementary schools around Fayetteville and Spring Hill, but the rest of the schools are down, so overall it's a decline in enrollment in that feeder pattern. 290 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:44,980 That one was massive. That was the biggest change when I looked at it, right? There was nothing close to that in terms of change. No, I don't think so. So really a lot of what we're seeing is driven out of that feeder pattern. And you look at the other ones there. 291 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:53,620 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Macintosh is the second one. And you can see Huddleston's flat. 292 00:23:53,860 --> 00:23:59,180 Kedren's up. Peach, you said he's down. The middle school is flat. And Macintosh is slightly 293 00:23:59,180 --> 00:24:06,840 down. So that'll be flat there. And you're saying to create pattern pattern. Crab Apple 294 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:13,840 is down. Norfade has been up and down. And what's interesting about Norfade is they had a large 295 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:20,080 increase in their enrollment, or at least what we expected this year, and it was all in kindergarten. 296 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,660 I mean, the kindergarten population bump up there, so that's actually pretty good because 297 00:24:24,660 --> 00:24:29,380 that should hopefully carry through the feeder pattern as you go. You can see flat rock has kind 298 00:24:29,380 --> 00:24:36,380 of been a little bit the recovery there, but at the high school level it is overall down. 299 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:43,600 Then when we look at Stars Mill, we see that the elementary schools are slightly trending down. 300 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,760 People's a little bit more than the others. 301 00:24:46,060 --> 00:24:53,980 The middle school rising star is down and as well as Stars Mill is down but not quite as drastically as the rest of the feeder pattern at this point. 302 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:58,840 And then white water, you can see white water, flat on Inman. 303 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:05,640 Sir Hart is down flat on the middle school and overall the white water high school is down. 304 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:11,740 You know and especially when you look at compared to 2223 that was a pretty big drop from 305 00:25:11,740 --> 00:25:13,300 1400 down to 1260. 306 00:25:15,460 --> 00:25:19,480 The rest of the slides I wasn't going to go into very much is really just kind of there 307 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,660 as far as informational because there are the demographic breakouts but you can kind of 308 00:25:23,660 --> 00:25:27,380 really dig into some of the numbers to see some of the shifts and some of the different 309 00:25:27,380 --> 00:25:30,240 in the feeder patterns of what has gone on. 310 00:25:31,220 --> 00:25:34,900 So if you did want to dig into some of those numbers, 311 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,940 really wasn't the purpose of what we were trying to do 312 00:25:37,940 --> 00:25:40,200 for this presentation, but we did have that information. 313 00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:42,520 You can see the total enrollment here 314 00:25:43,020 --> 00:25:44,640 with the elementary schools on the left. 315 00:25:44,940 --> 00:25:46,260 You know, we have one school over 800, 316 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,340 about four in that six to 700 range 317 00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:51,680 and then the rest below that. 318 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,140 On the middle school, on the right hand side, 319 00:25:54,140 --> 00:26:00,280 you see the four-mill schools are all about the same level with booth being larger and then the high 320 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:06,660 school below that. What we did want to look at is a three-year grade-level trend just to kind 321 00:26:06,660 --> 00:26:12,560 of point out a few things of interest. You can kind of ignore the pre-K that first thing because we 322 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,460 kind of that's based on the number of classrooms that are approved from the state so that number 323 00:26:17,460 --> 00:26:18,560 or pretty much stays the same. 324 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,180 But you can see that in the elementary grades, 325 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,100 you're down of K and 1 and 2 and 2, 326 00:26:29,020 --> 00:26:30,040 that's the one in the middle, 327 00:26:30,180 --> 00:26:31,220 and that's a little bit difficult to see, 328 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,600 but that is a pretty significant decrease right there. 329 00:26:33,780 --> 00:26:34,720 So that's a little bit concerning 330 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,680 because that's going to roll up through 331 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,320 as we go through the years 332 00:26:38,980 --> 00:26:42,620 and then up a little bit and forth and down in fifth. 333 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,980 When we get to the middle school, 334 00:26:45,340 --> 00:26:46,800 you can see it's a little bit of a mixed bag 335 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:52,580 down in the 6th up in the 7th down in the 8th and then we get the high school 336 00:26:52,580 --> 00:26:57,640 all the grade levels have trended down and I will say one of the things I've 337 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:03,040 watched over the years is the 9th grade level 9th grade is usually the where 338 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,380 you have most of the students in the school system it is usually the highest grade 339 00:27:07,380 --> 00:27:13,840 level and you can see it it's had a pretty significant decline from 1834 to 340 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:20,120 1676, and it actually is pretty almost even with the 10th grade at this point. 341 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,420 So that's a shift in the numbers that we haven't seen in a while. 342 00:27:26,900 --> 00:27:33,480 And then the last few slides are just year by year, the total by grade. 343 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,020 And right there, this is 2027, the current one. 344 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:42,960 You can see 9th and 10th grade are about the same where in your previous years, 9th grade 345 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:48,140 was usually a head or a little bit ahead of the 10th grade? 346 00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:52,580 Any comments or questions on those numbers? 347 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:59,480 Have you flowed through any of the data from elementary as it hits over the next three, 348 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,540 five, seven years as it hits high school? Do we continue to see bad news at some of the high schools 349 00:28:04,540 --> 00:28:10,320 in terms of enrollment? I'm guessing yes, I haven't done it yet. I would say that does seem to be 350 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:15,880 the trend, you know, what you can tell from these slides, though, that is a little bit, 351 00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:21,900 it's kind of hard, you can't just sit there and say, this grade level at 1200 now is 352 00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:26,280 going to be what we have at the ninth grade in so many years, because we do tend to add 353 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:31,000 students as we go through the grades, but what we're seeing is we're not getting as many 354 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,240 coming in at the higher grade levels like we used to. 355 00:28:33,740 --> 00:28:38,380 So I do think that trend is coming through, and especially that's why I mentioned the second 356 00:28:38,380 --> 00:28:43,000 in grade level, it's having such a large decline, that's way down the elementary school level. 357 00:28:43,740 --> 00:28:48,140 Maybe that kindergarten or a Fayette will help offset some of that some. 358 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,760 A lot of heavy lifting. 359 00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:52,300 Yes, it is, so. 360 00:28:52,780 --> 00:28:52,880 Okay. 361 00:28:54,100 --> 00:29:07,460 All right, so I'm going to ask Jim to pull up the next presentation slide show, which is in one of the reasons we wanted to look at the enrollment trends is because of the buildings as Dr. Paterson mentioned. 362 00:29:07,460 --> 00:29:13,740 So we did want to focus on two of the buildings, we've had some discussions before, but we just kind of wanted to kind of revisit those. 363 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,860 And that's Tyrone Elementary School, kind of the big picture on it is. 364 00:29:18,940 --> 00:29:26,640 We'd roof in HVC's, a 30 years old, going to take about $5 million, replace it, 60,000 square feet on seven acres. 365 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:33,260 We are currently renting it out to two tenants for $9,600 a month combined. 366 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:41,320 We've notified them that they are month to month and by the end of June, they would need to find elsewhere to be. 367 00:29:42,020 --> 00:29:48,700 The utilities are running us 100k a year and repair maintenance are getting to be more and more frequent. 368 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:54,260 So that estimate of $100,000 is actually going to go up every year just to maintain it. 369 00:29:54,260 --> 00:29:59,400 So we plan to look at doing a demolition some time. 370 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:10,140 In 2027, mid-2027, we think that'll cost about half a million dollars, maybe a little bit more just depending on, but we're going to bid that out in time to have that scheduled. 371 00:30:10,140 --> 00:30:14,020 Well, Tom, regarding the Tyrone, because I had conversations with Mayor Dahl the other day. 372 00:30:15,260 --> 00:30:20,480 Last Wednesday, and Mary had parents involved with one of the tenants. 373 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,060 So have we given them like a June hay, you're done, notice is that where we are now? 374 00:30:25,380 --> 00:30:31,200 Yeah, we've had June 27th, June 27th, June 27th, and we've had to alleviate their concern. 375 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,460 So we were able to support them. 376 00:30:32,460 --> 00:30:38,180 Yeah, we talked to both tenants and said we would do everything we could to go that long, yeah. 377 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,920 But I don't I mean I don't think it's confirmed we're going to go. I mean it's still a little bit up in the air. Yeah. 378 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,880 We have not given them any written notice which is kind of game of verbal. That's what we're trying to get to. Yes. 379 00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:57,200 So I mean that's really going to part of the discussion of you know this is the plan. 380 00:30:57,500 --> 00:31:03,440 At least the timeline we've set out of what the plan is at this point so. But couldn't they be out before June? 381 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,620 I think it would be very difficult for the tenants to be out and have all their stuff 382 00:31:09,620 --> 00:31:14,340 moved out before them because they had to set up, find a new location and set up the 383 00:31:14,340 --> 00:31:15,120 school again. 384 00:31:16,020 --> 00:31:19,200 Well, that's not true, but that's not our problem, even though I feel like it's my problem 385 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,580 because I do empathize as an aunt's dad. 386 00:31:21,820 --> 00:31:21,920 Yeah. 387 00:31:22,780 --> 00:31:26,420 I'm just saying, they're looking for a new location. 388 00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:27,760 Yes, they're working on it. 389 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,560 I know they're working on it, but they're also would love to hear some certainty on a 390 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,420 no matter what date, no matter what date it is. 391 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,240 The uncertainty is what's causing them a lot of angst. 392 00:31:38,140 --> 00:31:40,080 Well, I mean, the direction will be from what, you know, 393 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,300 what we want to convey to them, what that will be. 394 00:31:43,620 --> 00:31:46,560 So, you know, I do have that contact with them. 395 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,100 So, I'd be glad to have you. 396 00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:48,040 If we had to, whatever. 397 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,100 We would tell them, but we don't have certain. 398 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:50,340 Right. 399 00:31:51,620 --> 00:31:54,520 We also need to consider that many of our students 400 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,620 are participants in some of the dance programs that they have. 401 00:31:58,620 --> 00:32:07,280 and those programs have really helped the students in their academic goals so that they need 402 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:12,880 that extra curricular and some things are not offered at the schools so this has been an outlet 403 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:19,740 for many of our students to be able to participate in the dance programs that's being operated there. 404 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:27,920 So you know if they were, if they had to be out before June, it would really impact the students 405 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:34,660 and the families that have really made this a part of their everyday or weekly routines. 406 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:41,380 You know, they've planned months ahead of time, and they also do performances in the community. 407 00:32:41,820 --> 00:32:46,740 So they are a part of the community, and I think we should be considerate of that, 408 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,660 because they are a part of the community and our students are involved. 409 00:32:50,380 --> 00:32:50,780 Yes. 410 00:32:53,060 --> 00:32:53,400 All right. 411 00:32:53,940 --> 00:32:56,620 So, that's the Tyrone situation. 412 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,320 In fact, the intermediate school is a little bit different, but kind of the same thing. 413 00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:02,320 30-year-old roof. 414 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,880 It's going to be 5 million to replace 60,000 square feet. 415 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,340 I'm sorry. 416 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,160 32 years old. 417 00:33:07,340 --> 00:33:08,160 6 million to replace. 418 00:33:08,380 --> 00:33:09,500 72,000 square feet. 419 00:33:10,060 --> 00:33:10,920 On 12,000 acres. 420 00:33:11,060 --> 00:33:11,920 What's different about this? 421 00:33:12,060 --> 00:33:14,420 It is adjacent to other property because it's right next to. 422 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,260 You did mean 12,000 acres. 423 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:16,800 Did I? 424 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:17,980 It did not mean 12,000. 425 00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:19,200 12 acres. 426 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:26,500 Let me slow down, 72,000 square feet on approximately 12 acres, but it is part of a larger parcel. 427 00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:30,620 We use it for some office space and storage currently. 428 00:33:31,620 --> 00:33:36,060 So the offices could easily be consolidated elsewhere, and the store items could be moved, 429 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,580 sold, disposed of, otherwise. 430 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,960 And so looking for demolition of that building in 2027 to be determined. 431 00:33:45,030 --> 00:33:48,780 Are there any plans for the property once the buildings have been demolished? 432 00:33:48,780 --> 00:33:54,180 I think at this point we would just hold the property, there are, since it is adjacent to what we already have, 433 00:33:55,020 --> 00:34:01,340 there could be, for future use, potentially be another practice field for the school, 434 00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:06,040 those type of things, or if we had to come back and build something later, we'd have it available. 435 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,120 But since it's right next to what we already have, I would think we'd want to hold onto it for a while. 436 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:17,660 But for the Tyrone, I think we would put that land up for sale at some point. 437 00:34:17,660 --> 00:34:18,960 All right, 438 00:34:23,820 --> 00:34:32,880 so we'll go on to the tax digest millage and tan update, which there's not a whole lot to update that we hadn't talked about before, but we'll go through it. 439 00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:38,460 The tax assessor issued the notices as we know, the appeal window ended August 7th. 440 00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:43,540 We are still waiting to get the tax digest from the tax commissioner. I'm kind of hoping to get it this week. 441 00:34:43,860 --> 00:34:48,780 If I get it this week, then we can move along with the projected timeline. 442 00:34:48,780 --> 00:34:54,220 So Jim, if you don't mind pulling that up, if we do get it this week, and part of the 443 00:34:54,220 --> 00:34:59,800 issue with the timeline is the advertisement requirements with the legislature could help 444 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,200 us with anything, that scene would be a simple thing they could help us with. 445 00:35:03,380 --> 00:35:09,760 The advertising timeline is very difficult because pretty much I have to get the information 446 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,420 to the paper three weeks before they're going to print it because they only print on Wednesday 447 00:35:13,420 --> 00:35:18,020 and it has to be in the paper at more than seven days prior to the meeting. 448 00:35:18,020 --> 00:35:25,620 So since they print on Wednesdays and we have meetings on Mondays that's two weeks right there in a week before to get it to them 449 00:35:25,620 --> 00:35:34,200 So, but if we do get the information this week, we're hoping to do advertisements next week on the 23rd and then to start having our 450 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:41,160 Hearing starting with the regular board schedule the board work session on October 5th and 451 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:48,080 And then the board meeting had the adoption on the 19th, and then we would think the county would follow the same schedule. 452 00:35:50,930 --> 00:36:01,010 That might be something good to talk to our local legislators about, because with local newspapers, pretty much going away, we're being online only, 453 00:36:03,290 --> 00:36:08,910 you know, that that days of sort of the print version, and everybody got the paper and read it. 454 00:36:08,910 --> 00:36:14,810 Well, most people are getting that information electronically already anyway through the website and through other means. 455 00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:20,670 We're able to put it out through, you know, social media, parent square, and have it posted on the website page. 456 00:36:21,050 --> 00:36:21,650 Yes, hold on. 457 00:36:22,250 --> 00:36:23,910 Okay. All right. 458 00:36:24,130 --> 00:36:29,890 So, and then we'll go to the tax anticipation note where we're at on that. 459 00:36:30,090 --> 00:36:36,050 So we are going to have to do because of the delay in the tax revenue. 460 00:36:36,050 --> 00:36:41,270 new, we're going to have to do a tan, we're planning to do $35 million that will cover 461 00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:47,190 payroll and operational expenses, we did an invitation to bid on Friday, we released 462 00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:50,410 that, we're getting the bid's back on the 17th, which is Thursday. 463 00:36:51,130 --> 00:36:56,910 We will bring those to the board on the, at the Monday meeting, September 21st, to be approved. 464 00:36:57,230 --> 00:37:02,190 So that'll give the attorneys Friday and Monday during the day to go back and forth with 465 00:37:02,190 --> 00:37:31,650 finalizing the documents to approve at the board meeting on the 21st and then we would set funding of that for August 2nd and then the payment would be due back the 31st and we even after talking with the tax commissioner where I think they are on having the bills we're talking about a January 15th due date we would get the bulk of our revenue at the end of December so I do feel confident we would have enough funds to pay back the town at that point. 466 00:37:33,450 --> 00:37:37,710 All right. Thanks. Okay. Thank you. 467 00:37:37,710 --> 00:37:43,410 Mr. Chairman, before Tom goes, do you mind if I ask him, there are two items for information 468 00:37:43,410 --> 00:37:50,170 that I just, if you don't mind to comment on those, if it's okay, I don't have anything 469 00:37:50,170 --> 00:37:55,370 in the superintendent's report. The position descriptions are just really a summary 470 00:37:55,370 --> 00:38:00,210 of what the board approved last month without the red lines. So if there's any questions 471 00:38:00,210 --> 00:38:07,290 about those letters. And then under information on them, be and see the intergovernmental agreement, 472 00:38:08,430 --> 00:38:12,870 a tax-assessor audit service. Can you say a line? Something about that? And then 473 00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:17,090 there's certificates for completion for both Cleveland and San Mar. 474 00:38:17,530 --> 00:38:24,250 IGA with the city and the county. That is to perform audit services. They'll have an internal 475 00:38:24,250 --> 00:38:32,790 personal person and external consultant to help with specifically for the property tax returns from the data center and things like that. 476 00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:37,630 We're waiting to hear back from them on language, the city and the county we're going back and forth. 477 00:38:38,110 --> 00:38:43,610 We're waiting for final language so that we expect to bring it back to the regular board meeting for approval. 478 00:38:44,730 --> 00:38:50,290 And then on the certificates of the completions, as are the two renovations we did two summers ago. 479 00:38:50,290 --> 00:39:08,950 So we have to wait until we've actually gone through all of the checklists and paid all of the final submissions for invoices to the general contractor and we've completed that so we're certifying to the state so that they can reimburse us the rest of the funds for those projects. 480 00:39:10,890 --> 00:39:18,130 Mr. Chair, I don't know, unless the board needs executive session, I don't think we have 481 00:39:18,130 --> 00:39:22,750 a need for executive session today, it's short board meeting, but I think that completes 482 00:39:22,750 --> 00:39:23,510 all of my items. 483 00:39:26,940 --> 00:39:27,160 Okay. 484 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:28,360 Sounds good. 485 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:32,260 I guess without objection, we're adjourned. 486 00:39:32,260 --> 00:39:32,720 Thank you very much.