[0:03] Logan, call us to order here for the board of trustees meeting
[0:07] for, uh, tuesday, february 24th. It is now 10 15.
[0:11] so I want to welcome, uh, board members, wanna welcome staff and welcome the
[0:16] folks in the room and the folks watching us on, uh, on tv here.
[0:20] uh, angie, can I have a roll call, please? Yes, sir. Chairman, jeff patterson.
[0:25] here, vice chairman willie gonzalez. Here. Trustee mayor craig brown. Here.
[0:29] trustee sheila lit stone here. Trustee richard moore. Here. Trustee v pearson?
[0:33] here. Trustee eric stromberg here. And re brown.
[0:37] thank you. So I declare that we have a quorum and di, seeing as how we did
[0:41] the pledge of allegiance for the finance committee meeting. I'm gonna
[0:46] skip it here. Um, declaration of conflicts of interest by
[0:50] a trustee or any conflicts to declare,
[0:57] um,
[1:03] andrew's topic. Yeah. Okay. Trustee gonzalez.
[1:08] a moment. Okay. Any others? Hearing
[1:12] none. Move on the see. No, we don't have, like, we any presentations or announcements. So
[1:17] gonna move into general business. So, approval of the minutes.
[1:21] can I get a motion to approve eric second. Richard second.
[1:26] any corrections updates? All in favor
[1:30] of approving the minutes. Aye. Any opposed? So motion carries unanimously.
[1:35] uh, and I, we've got on the agenda, I'm gonna move the, if, if it's okay to move
[1:39] the public comments up before the port director's report. And we have
[1:45] one for ms. Mr. Ted o'rourke.
[1:50] different subject, different meetings. Thank you for tolerating me. Uh,
[1:54] pleasure. One of the last things that y'all just brought up in the meeting was the, uh, shore side
[1:58] power. I think it's really important that y'all realize that this is
[2:02] inevitable. That either you're gonna have to have shore side power or all lng ships
[2:08] because, you know, the environment is super important. Even though the trump administration is
[2:12] just about throwing the epa out, you're still gonna have citizens that
[2:16] are deeply concerned about having four or five cruise ships tied
[2:20] up and the admissions from that going straight across to one block
[2:25] to downtown through the neighborhoods. So I think the main thing that
[2:29] you should actually consider is requiring any new terminals. If you
[2:33] do build a new terminal, come with short power, you can put that in your
[2:38] contract. Require them to, as part of a, an agreement that you, you
[2:42] know, you've got to, you guys are basically in control. The second thing
[2:46] that I wanted to kind of mention to you, if you didn't see it yesterday, that you should really, I feel
[2:50] as the port should get out in front of, is the world news tonight last
[2:54] night with this blast that went out that says, is it safer
[2:58] to cruise in mexico right now? What, what those sailing outta galveston
[3:02] should know? And actually the governor, and he put a whole,
[3:06] and it's really kind of completely degrading to us, I think, and I
[3:10] know the cruise lines should address it, basically, but as the port, I
[3:15] think you share a responsibility to make sure that the public knows that
[3:19] that's the, the, uh, western riviera that's been
[3:23] under attack with port of val and ports like that has nothing to
[3:27] do with the ports that our ships are, are currently going to.
[3:31] and I think it'd be really important to, from the port, y'all always do
[3:35] these things where you put these blasts out and these are able to get the, the media
[3:40] to understand that the greater houston area and the, and the people
[3:44] that are booked for these cruises don't cancel. Because, I mean, literally it
[3:48] lists all the ships from the february of 2026 through march.
[3:52] that's a big season for us with the, with spring break. I mean,
[3:56] at carnival seven nights, missed all the ports. And this went out
[4:01] from kt k-h-u-t-v to channel 11. And, uh, the
[4:06] governor was on there. And I think that the governor, I think it's a lot of it's political from
[4:10] white house down. I don't really care about the cruise business 'cause they
[4:14] don't pay taxes. And I think it's a, a direct attack
[4:18] on us. I really do believe that we need to defend that and make sure that our cruise
[4:23] business sustains. Thank you. Thank you.
[4:27] who next we're gonna move into the important directors for court. Mr.
[4:31] righty.
[4:37] good morning everyone.
[4:41] this is for the month of january, february meeting.
[4:46] um, you know, look, you know, as usual, you know, I
[4:50] mean obviously right now we're, we're in transition so, um,
[4:54] you know, we're, uh, kind of down in certain areas. I mean, we're,
[4:58] we're still meeting and we're still talking. Uh, we had meetings yesterday with
[5:02] a couple of our, our, uh, attendance, um, and, you know,
[5:06] moving towards the future. I mean, obviously we're looking at
[5:10] where, where we are in terms of filling slips and, uh,
[5:15] how that fits in with our future plans. So I think we have some good meetings. Yesterday, brett
[5:19] and I did, uh, with some of our steve doors and stuff talking about where
[5:23] we're heading and, and when we, and what we've done to this point.
[5:27] so you can see the, the numbers there we're still pretty ha doing really well on robo
[5:31] cargo. Nothing yet this month in, in wind. Um, liquid bulk
[5:36] is up. Um, you know, there's the quantities. Yes, sir. Just gonna have the wind.
[5:40] do we have some ships projected in over the next quarter? Have a large project,
[5:44] uh, expected to start in late may, early june 300
[5:48] pieces. Okay. Um, they're still waiting to hear on one of the other larger
[5:53] manufacturers in remain of the year as well. We're expected to really pick up,
[5:57] uh, late first quarter into the second
[6:01] quarter. Okay. Alright, thanks. On
[6:05] the cruising, you can see, uh, passenger turns. I mean,
[6:09] we're a little bit below budget. Um, right now about 3% below,
[6:14] um, revenues are still up. So I think there's just a inverse relationship
[6:18] sometimes that we get with, uh, the prices changing and
[6:22] things like that with new tariffs going into play and escalations,
[6:26] uh, which moves the revenues up. And, uh, you know, so we're, we're, uh,
[6:30] we pretty enthusiastic of what's happening this year. I think what's gonna happen this
[6:34] year should be a banner year for us in terms of passenger counts.
[6:39] um, you know, the wind components as, as, as, uh, brett just mentioned
[6:43] will be picking up. And you can see the cruise ships were a couple, couple
[6:47] of ships over where we were last year. And that's only gonna increase
[6:51] because, you know, obviously we've got a new terminal open up for a
[6:55] full year. Um, we went over this this morning, obviously
[6:59] year to date in january, the same thing. So a three and a half million in
[7:04] cash flow from operations, uh, which is a good number to start the year off with.
[7:09] um, the grant plans, uh, the grants that we've got out there right now, uh,
[7:13] poor infrastructure development grant, uh, we're, we have put in
[7:17] for sure power on that one, um, to, to see, uh, you know, 'cause
[7:21] it, it is a, uh, uh, a big point right now with the administration
[7:25] of this, this kind of, uh, item. So we, we try to follow the
[7:30] direction that we receive from the no fos on these.
[7:34] um, and, and there's, there's, they lean certain into certain areas
[7:39] on these, and so we try to satisfy what, what they're doing and, and make sure
[7:43] it works for us. Um, this is the, uh, this other
[7:47] one, uh, the innovative finance and asset concession grant,
[7:51] um, that's been submitted. Um, and then the eda, we, we, right
[7:55] now we've had some conversations about some eda projects.
[8:00] um, eda is, is open-ended, so they're, they're moving. Uh, I mean those, those
[8:04] are always open. Um, there's a couple of things we're looking at
[8:08] on, uh, mostly birth type,
[8:12] uh, grants mostly that would benefit us from a, from
[8:16] building new births or, uh, you know, uh, continuing to work on
[8:20] our old ones. Uh, the grants we've already received. Uh,
[8:24] you can see those. Uh, were under construction under the, uh, rehabil rehabilitation
[8:29] of 38 39. I mean, we'll talk about that in a few minutes. I think we're,
[8:33] it's very exciting about where we've gone on that. Um, we're now in the process
[8:38] of under the federal highway, which is the 408,000 for the
[8:42] building. Uh, the rate, what's called, we call the raise grant. Uh, we did
[8:46] receive 408 8,000 on that. And, and so what we're doing right now
[8:50] is going through the actual agreement process and the
[8:55] seaport connectivity. Um, you know, we've, we've met
[8:59] a couple of weeks ago with txdot, and as we move forward to the next session
[9:03] of the legislature, um, we'll be looking at, uh, we we're
[9:07] submitting projects into the port master plan, um,
[9:11] which then will be put together by the, uh, texas
[9:15] support association in conjunction with the, with, uh, tdot,
[9:19] the pac. And, you know, we come out with, what we've done in the past is
[9:23] a, a, a major plan that shows all the projects that the ports are looking
[9:28] to do, um, and, and get funded for,
[9:32] uh, from the state legislature. Seaport connectivity, uh, has always been
[9:36] good to us. We've gotten anywhere from a million to 2 million
[9:40] almost, excuse me, almost every time out of that particular grant. And so
[9:44] we're, we're procuring the, uh, on the seaport connectivity.
[9:48] um, you know, we're procuring some of those services at this, at
[9:52] this stage. Uh, the federal highway administration, um,
[9:57] was a comprehensive safety action plan. It's complete. And so that's,
[10:01] that's gone in and, and that's one of the things we've gotten some, uh, feedback and
[10:05] received some money. The next step, that's safe, safe streets, that's a state street. Right.
[10:10] and this is, uh, you know, we received the $2.88 million from
[10:14] the state on that. So we're beginning the, uh, the kickoff
[10:18] meeting that, you know, you get the grant and then there's a, there's a couple of months where
[10:22] everybody tries to get on the same page. And we get the grievance done before
[10:26] you can really even start, uh, really before you can even start letting contracts on those.
[10:32] yes. I hadn't noticed before, but on, on that, uh, the tdo
[10:36] grand on the safe streets, that portion, there's a traffic state, a new traffic light
[10:40] at 29th, and harborside included in that. So that, I guess based
[10:44] on that, that's gonna be installed, right? Correct. Which help we help manage
[10:48] traffic there. Could I ? Yeah,
[10:52] it takes time. You know, traffic lights, this , richard, um, s
[10:56] speaking of that and, and what your comment earlier about
[11:00] the, uh, projects that, that are gonna go down, the harborside,
[11:05] et cetera, um, have, have we worked
[11:09] with the city now. I know we have, but my question is, in
[11:14] executing the construction on that, how is that
[11:18] right now? How is that court gonna work? Is it, is it thinking that
[11:22] the court's gonna do the construction or the city's gonna do the construction?
[11:26] well, we're, we're getting crowded with grants, right? I mean, but there are several grants
[11:30] and I, I can let jeff talk a little bit more about that. We are meeting now with
[11:35] the city, trying to get in coordination of, of the timing because
[11:39] we need the traffic lights, you know, now. And,
[11:43] you know, the city has projects too that they're doing, right. So we're trying to coordinate that.
[11:47] jeff, you have anything to add to that? I don't, you know no, I, I I think the
[11:51] question was like, who will be doing the transportation alternatives actual, like the
[11:56] managing projects? Correct. Correct. Right now, I think the plan is, is for the court to
[12:00] manage those projects, but there's gonna be a lot of coordination with the city where
[12:04] they're, alright, thanks. Um,
[12:08] you know, here's, here's some of the grants you see we're working on. These are, these are nothing
[12:12] new that the cable management systems, obviously, uh, we
[12:16] have to get the shore power there first before we execute on this grant. There's
[12:20] no match on this. And this is each one of the, we have two pieces of equipment that are valued
[12:25] about a million dollars each. That is how we handle the cables for
[12:29] the shore power. Um, the micro grid is, uh, you
[12:33] know, it, it seems to be slow in execution, but there's, there's a lot
[12:37] of parties involved. And this is the on on dock
[12:41] battery system that we're working in conjunction with, uh, texas a and m on.
[12:46] and then the, uh, the flyovers and, and that
[12:50] we've talked about many times, 2.2 and a quarter million on
[12:54] that. And, and we've combined that with the, uh, surface,
[12:58] with the, uh, the feasibility study of the, the last phase of our
[13:02] internal road network. 'cause they're tying together. So those are, both of those grants
[13:07] will be kind of put out there together on 33rd street.
[13:11] um, we just, and going through a memorandum of understanding of the city
[13:16] on that and, and who's gonna do what because the city actually
[13:20] received the money, but we're doing, we manage the project.
[13:26] um, then here again, the, the, the, uh, improvement,
[13:30] that's the safe streets right there. Uh, I think that's the, uh, the,
[13:35] um, that's 408 is raised. That's on there twice. Yeah. And
[13:39] then the textile transportation alternative is on there again too. So on this,
[13:43] these are, we've received them. Go ahead. So on the raise grant, what, what is, what's
[13:47] the, I'm trying to remember the scope of that. Um, this is the 408,000.
[13:52] what's, what's, what , it's back here. It is the, uh, it's
[13:56] the discretionary investments and surface transportation infrastructure that will have significant
[14:00] local regional impact. And the intermodal mobility
[14:05] plan and intermodal is, you know, uh, kind of a
[14:09] key word where you're, you're talking about tying in,
[14:13] uh, traffic, uh, people and pedestrian,
[14:18] I mean, and, uh, bicycle paths. This is what this is, is,
[14:22] uh, is really an overall. And so this is where
[14:27] you have to have these meetings because you have to, you're, you're in a process of determining
[14:31] scope. Scope. Yeah. 'cause there could be some overlap here with
[14:35] some other things we have. Right. And that's what we, you know, we've been talking about internally
[14:39] is just looking at all these grants that we've got and making sure that
[14:44] we don't overlap too much and do the same thing twice. And this
[14:48] is a little bit what I'm concerned about this mobility stuff. 'cause we've got mobility
[14:53] done, and then now the city has grants that are almost in
[14:57] the same area. So that's where it's really important we coordinate, um,
[15:01] together that we aren't doing the same thing twice. Jeffrey, did you have anything
[15:05] to add? Or you, you were just ready for any questions? Like the, the, the target area for that is
[15:10] really kind of between, uh, 51st street bridge and 25th street for
[15:14] that intermodal study. So this is, this is really looking
[15:18] more kind of west. Yeah. Westport, uh, cargo,
[15:23] uh, vehicle, pedestrian and bike, you know, kind of all
[15:27] in that west, which we really have none. Some of these other areas, we've really been looking more
[15:31] east on some of these other things. So this, so that's kind of how you're
[15:36] segregating this, which makes sense there. Yeah. I appreciate you making my bike
[15:40] ride out to the west, a little safe road. There's some bumpy railroad tracks.
[15:44] have, uh, port users have actually commute to the west end, not biking.
[15:48] so well, we're trying to combine mountain biking
[15:54] part of the, uh, fitness, fitness program. I'd be going over the bridge. ,
[15:59] poor security grants. Uh, you can see, uh, this is the 22
[16:03] and 24 grants. I mean, it takes two to three years to get those done. And so
[16:07] one of 'em was, one of 'em was a training grant that we received. Um,
[16:11] and so there's been some plans for some tabletop, uh,
[16:16] discussions and, and exercises. And then, you know, here again,
[16:20] mostly what we're we end up doing with a lot of these security grants is, is the
[16:24] camera systems, because they change all the time. And then the operating
[16:29] systems change. So, you know, we end up replacing a lot of cameras,
[16:33] uh, through these security grants. This is the, the, the
[16:38] latest that we've been, um, and you can read those. I mean,
[16:42] this is the latest we have on the 25 grants and the 24 grants.
[16:46] uh, you know, and the amounts that we have for those that are allocated to
[16:51] particular areas, we, we can get a grant and then it's broken down into two
[16:55] or three different areas. What you're seeing there is that,
[16:59] um, under the procurement front, uh, you can see what we're,
[17:03] uh, you know, we did receive, um, uh, bids back from
[17:07] the pedestrian bridge improvements and it's just getting worse
[17:11] and, uh, you know, so we have to, you know, we're, we're dropping back here again
[17:16] and trying to figure out how we make this happen. Um, and,
[17:20] and I, I believe it's gotta happen. Uh, we just need to, you know, to figure
[17:25] out what we can do to, uh, make it more palatable from
[17:29] our standpoint in terms of the cost. Yeah, we've talked about, I mean, we've had a lot
[17:33] of discussion about that and, you know, we, we've all experienced the frustrations
[17:37] and as you guys have a back and forth, but I, in my mind,
[17:41] we committed to addressing that intersection. And this,
[17:45] this may be kind of an expensive solution, but I guess my mind is, unless we have a
[17:49] another solution of how we separate people in traffic, then
[17:54] we need to figure out a way to get, get the walkway refurb. And, you know, here again, I mean, we're
[17:58] looking at the variations of that, right? I mean, can we self
[18:03] perform anything? Things like that, that can bring the cost down.
[18:07] the, I mean, this is, this has always been, this is, I mean, it's been
[18:11] out there since I got here. So it's been out there, you know, 10 years before I got
[18:15] here. So it's one of these things that we, I'd love to just be able to say, we're getting this thing going
[18:19] and getting, getting it done. And, uh, we do that one way or
[18:23] another this year, the way I look at it or, or officially cut it loose.
[18:28] well, which, which means we gotta come up with another way to address that intersection.
[18:33] right. Okay. So the, uh,
[18:38] oral port industrial, um, you know, we're, I, we're on, this is the, uh, the
[18:42] seaport connectivity and solicitations. You can see we've been busy with solicitations.
[18:46] you can see every one of the procurement processes on all these grants and projects
[18:51] have, have been solicited. And we're under evaluation on some of 'em.
[18:55] some of 'em were still inside the, the period, the downtown mobility study is,
[18:59] is scheduled, uh, to be looked at on the, on the 17th
[19:03] or closed on the 17th. And then, you know, we're, we're looking at janitorial
[19:08] services, which is turning out to be a, a big contract when you start adding
[19:12] terminals and, and different areas. And so, you know, that that's, we've gone out for
[19:16] solicitation on that. Um, the, the, uh, safety
[19:20] committee, I think we have our, our new, uh, safety
[19:24] manager who is now an employee of the court, introduced
[19:29] you to her morning. Good morning everyone. Uh, as you know, we, uh, started to focus on
[19:33] safety two years ago, bringing in a contractor. Uh, we've got to the point to where the growth that
[19:37] we needed to bring someone in house. And after long drawn out search, we've just,
[19:41] um, selected angie warren, who's coming to us from lionel scent marathon,
[19:45] also has a paramedic background. So because of that diverse, um, career, we believe
[19:50] she'll be a great fit. And, uh, alex, miss angie warren, how
[19:54] are you guys? Doing great, alex. I got a couple years at marathon and then
[19:58] like three years at, lined up the cell doing safety. Uh, first 20 years of
[20:02] my career was a firefighter paramedic, so, um, it's pretty diverse,
[20:06] but as we get older, we need to slow our roll down. So I'm now safety
[20:10] and, uh, yeah, it seems to, I like it. Glad to be here. Welcome,
[20:15] welcome. Thanks so much. Thanks. Say, angie, we, we've gone, I
[20:19] used to work at dow chemical for 36 years. I heard lot of drilled
[20:23] into my head on the eh s part, and I think the port has come a long way in,
[20:27] in my six years on the board as far as really kind of adopting,
[20:31] adopting that safety culture and saying, we really need to, to drive that into
[20:36] everything that we do out here. And so you just, charles described
[20:40] that we've had a journey of the, uh, mr. Cherry and, and kind of getting some stuff
[20:44] in place, and now we're really excited to have you on board. But I, I guess I
[20:48] would say, you know, feel like you have a, this board really cares about what
[20:53] you are doing out there and it's important. So, you know, we really support the efforts
[20:57] and we really want to make it such that everybody gets to go home in the same condition
[21:01] they came to work in. You've probably heard that absolutely. Before marathon and other places.
[21:05] absolutely. But you know what, what we found from the statistics, I think a lot of the injuries we have out here
[21:09] are not our employees, right? They're contractors or they're
[21:14] passengers. Passengers. And so to me, we've gotta feel, and
[21:18] I, and I think we do an obligation to look at that whole population and say, how can
[21:22] we not only, you know, keep our employees safe, but, and we talked about the boarding,
[21:26] the bridge over 2050, walk into the trunk. How do we keep our
[21:30] passengers and customers safe as well? So we we're looking forward to
[21:34] what you're gonna bring to the table and keep that, keep that energy going. Appreciate it. Alright. And also, as
[21:38] you can see, we've started a new year, 2026. So we've reset our numbers.
[21:42] uh, and again, it addresses exactly what you stated that, uh, the injuries that we do have, they
[21:47] come a lot from our passengers. Uh, and then with our safety guard, uh,
[21:51] terrell weatherspoon from cnm, he found some damage, uh, uh, post and, um,
[21:55] put in the work order and got that all repaired. And, and that's what we all safety this month. And thank you
[21:59] for your time. Appreciate it. Alright. Thank you guys. Forward. Thank you. And don't
[22:03] make yourself a stranger, angie. You're welcome. Yeah, we'd welcome to come to all, we'd like to have, yeah. We'd
[22:07] like to have you back talking to us and not just when something bad happens,
[22:11] right. Tell us all the good stuff. I remember those days. You only get to talk when something
[22:15] bad happens. Yeah. It's telling us the good things and success stories.
[22:20] um, parking's doing well. I mean, you know, uh, and you notice that we've
[22:24] got a really strong online presence and, uh, you know, our, our passenger reservations
[22:29] are still growing. Um, you know, and as we move more
[22:33] and more closer to the terminals, I think these numbers will getting more and more, uh, or go
[22:37] higher and higher. So it's, it's all, it's a good story. Um,
[22:41] and then, you know, we, we have set a schedule here for
[22:46] the rollout, the official rollout of the, of the master plan. Um, you
[22:50] know, obviously, uh, last we had a special meeting, which you adopted it. And
[22:54] then, uh, you know, we're, we had the, the document is basically finalized.
[22:58] there was some question, I mean, there was suggestions to move some language
[23:02] forward, which that has been, that has been done. Uh, nothing, nothing
[23:07] really major in it other than these little cleanups and stuff like
[23:11] that. So you'll, you should see here relatively shortly, we'll
[23:15] send everybody a copy of the final return, the final plan, which has some
[23:19] language moved around that we wanted to move towards the front, if you remember. Yes. Um,
[23:24] and so, uh, that will be on the website. And then, uh, there'll
[23:28] be a subsequent press release that's going out, um, about, about
[23:32] the master plan. And then we scheduled a public meeting, uh,
[23:36] for the march the 25th at cruise terminal 16,
[23:40] which we will, we'll do very similar, we'll, we will invite the public to come in.
[23:45] we will have a, a series of, uh, stations
[23:49] where we will talk about the different parts of the master plan, give
[23:53] people the opportunity to comment. So this will be, you know, our,
[23:57] this will be, this is not really in ba's scope.
[24:02] I mean, we've already done the master plan a public meeting once,
[24:06] and I requested that we, I felt like now we finalize this,
[24:10] that we do another one just to let everybody see what, what the master plan looks
[24:14] like. Final roger, I, I think that the, the, uh, the format
[24:19] that you described, I think works good
[24:23] initially when, when we're doing this. And I think it'll work good for
[24:27] this. But I would also suggest that we have at least
[24:33] one, uh, lecture type thing where, where the
[24:37] whole group, here's a present, here's the presentation
[24:42] on, uh, here's the presentation on the plan, basically.
[24:46] and, and it has the opportunity to ask the questions. Yeah. And we, we will have that, we, one of the stations
[24:50] will have that presentation running on,
[24:54] on the screen. Um, I hear what you're saying and we can, we
[24:58] can look into that too. I mean, 'cause we're just, this is, this is wide open and this is just
[25:02] a, you know, here's what we, here's what the board passed, here's a step, and, and we will, and
[25:07] we will have three representatives from ba there. Uh, you know, louis
[25:11] will be there, and then we'll have leah there, who is the, who is the numbers person on this. And
[25:15] then they, then their planner person who at the last, uh,
[25:19] public meeting got a lot of questions and stuff. So we're gonna bring him back here.
[25:23] I'm guessing kathy is doing the, the, the web stuff and all that. Yeah,
[25:27] well, in conjunction with pa. Yeah, I was gonna suggest that, that you also put
[25:31] in there that I, I'm guessing free parking will be available at
[25:36] the ct 16 free parking ,
[25:41] steady big fellow. Of course, you can say it some other way. Yeah.
[25:46] parking without cost. Complimentary parking. Yeah. No, it
[25:50] will have that. We'll have it well section, uh, you know, special section. Of
[25:55] course. We didn't have a big garage now, right. There, we have some places.
[26:00] and so, you know, I think, we'll, we have a, uh, a joint meeting scheduled with
[26:04] the city. Um, you know, when is that coming up? Do we have a date on
[26:08] that? We don't, we don't have a date yet. No, we do not. I'll be glad
[26:12] to get on your, uh, agenda if you want. And we can go over, we can put that you want
[26:16] it on the march agenda? That'd be good. Okay.
[26:20] but, but that'll be, I think our march meeting is after
[26:25] your public meeting. It would be, does that matter? No, I don't, I don't think that matters.
[26:29] I just wanted to be able to answer questions and stuff. Maybe city council, I'll make
[26:33] sure we get it on there. Shirley. Just,
[26:37] richard, I think that's a good idea. Um, because it's, it's gonna also open up
[26:42] for questions, right? Easier. They're, they're more apt to have questions in a setting like
[26:46] that, and you're not answering it to 15 different people. You're, and everybody's
[26:50] hearing the, the question. Everybody's hearing that same time. Yeah. So,
[26:56] okay. Um, you know, we're, we're having a maritime day. Uh,
[27:00] you know, we, we really got a lot of positive feedback
[27:05] from the last maritime day. I know it was in conjunction with the 200th anniversary,
[27:10] but, you know, we we're gonna kind of step up our, uh,
[27:14] our maritime day celebration, so to speak, with, you know, remember we
[27:18] brought a bunch of ships in and stuff and come have an opportunity to go on
[27:22] 'em. There'll be, there'll be, uh, school kids coming to, uh,
[27:26] maritime day. And so we're gonna, we'll have a little, we're we're looking
[27:30] for one sponsor to help us with the cost of that. So, um, you know,
[27:35] and we have some interest in that too, from other people just to, just to, you
[27:39] know, put more emphasis on maritime day. And, uh, you know, I,
[27:43] I don't know that, I mean, how much, uh, the cost would be, but any,
[27:47] and we do any of these things now, I think we've set the precedence that this,
[27:51] any additional money that we have after off of cost will go to scholarships,
[27:55] because I think we've kind of established that. And then one of the other things
[28:00] that we've been talking, I think willie would like to do is we move down the road,
[28:04] maybe sometime this fall or this summer, um, we'll have a little golf
[28:08] tournament or something that we can raise some additional capital. I mean, we'll never, I
[28:12] mean, it's at the stage, I don't think we'll have a chance to bill to put up $300,000 like
[28:16] we've done in the past. But, you know, I think this is one of these things we've seen
[28:20] how the scholarships break down and, and what, uh, certainly
[28:25] what texas a and m is gonna do. You know, so there'll be funding at 4,000 scholarships
[28:30] a year, four of 'em. And, uh, you know, that way
[28:34] e every little bit's gonna help as we continue, uh, because
[28:38] these are scholarships that will be paid out every year until the individual,
[28:42] uh, graduates. And roger at the latest, a, uh, a and m function I went to,
[28:47] they had pictures of the recipients of the scholarships at the function. Perfect. Congrats
[28:51] judge. Um, dredging
[28:55] harbor, this has been a lot of conversation going on about this,
[28:59] uh, this and the, the bridge and, and, uh, I kind of talk about that
[29:03] a little bit later, but, um, uh, brett, you wanna bring us up to speed on where we are
[29:08] here? Yeah, so just, uh, update for this month. I'm happy to announce that, uh, mike oaks,
[29:12] llc is out here dredging for the, uh, the federal harbor. Um, if you're able to look
[29:16] right across, uh, uh, behind terminal 25, you'll see missouri h
[29:20] in a couple weeks, we're gonna have the second dredge boat coming in, and they're gonna start on the channel
[29:24] extension project, which is the far, uh, west end to deepen that down to 46
[29:29] feet. Um, last friday, we had a really good meeting with the new colonel,
[29:33] uh, with the galveston district, uh, colonel date. And, uh, I, I have
[29:37] a lot of, lot of high hopes working with him and thinking outside the box. They have new, new
[29:41] directives, uh, coming from dc and I, I think that, uh, everything
[29:45] seems very promising. Yeah. Yeah. And there's, there's some moves, uh, that we're hearing
[29:50] and actually seeing some where there's a, uh, a move to
[29:54] kind of make it more efficient. The, the process,
[29:58] um, as you deal with army corps and, uh, you know, and, and,
[30:03] and washington trying to make that process a little bit more
[30:07] easier to follow. I mean, there's, there is some conversations about,
[30:11] uh, a reimbursement program which would allow, uh, the
[30:16] ports to dredge themselves before,
[30:20] um, with the reimbursement plan in place, because, you
[30:24] know, this is one of the, you know, to get some dredging done. It's a long drawn out process,
[30:29] and, you know, and lots of times we don't have that time, you know, so one of
[30:33] the things, and it is been proven in a couple of parts already, where, you know, they
[30:37] let the port go ahead and do their dredging when they need
[30:41] it, and then there's a reimbursement agreement in place, so they could come back later on
[30:45] and reimburse you for that. So it, it is gonna, it would, I, I'm hopeful that it
[30:50] will make it, I mean, there is, uh, several congressmen up there,
[30:54] uh, john collins who's been down here, um, he is leading the charge
[30:58] on that out of georgia. And so we're hopeful to see some amendments,
[31:02] and, and I, and and I, we met, like, as we said, we met with the colonel, and
[31:06] he's, they want that too. I mean, the army corps wants that. They want the ability to be able to respond
[31:11] quicker. So I think it's, it's all, it's all positive stuff.
[31:17] um, I'm gonna turn this over to jeff now. Here he comes. He's got a,
[31:21] a, a master plan capital project worksheet. Thank you, roger. Sure.
[31:26] uh, yeah, you see on the screen, no real change, uh, on this
[31:30] from, from last meeting, but, but as we move into next meeting, the things
[31:34] to see change is, uh, we did receive bids on the walkway and
[31:38] opi, so we have better durations for those projects and,
[31:43] um, estimates on when they will start. Um, but those are the,
[31:47] the main items, uh, the main projects we have going right now, uh,
[31:51] terminal 25 walkway improvements. Uh, we've talked about this a little bit earlier,
[31:56] but yeah, we did receive, uh, two bids. Again, same
[32:00] two contractors that bid on this previously, uh, uh, a year ago,
[32:04] the bids were 10 and 12 million respectively.
[32:08] um, now those are 11 five and 11 four respectively.
[32:13] um, the third party, uh, estimate we had on
[32:17] this was $10 million. And so, kind of what the trend we saw was,
[32:22] um, the high bid, the $12 million bid came
[32:26] down by, uh, $5 million, and the $10 million bid
[32:30] went up by $1.5 million. Um, and I think
[32:34] that what, what happened there is, is we did see savings. We just saw savings from the
[32:38] wrong point. We were, we were going off of the third party engineers estimate, um,
[32:43] which was up $10 million in projecting a savings of five, 500,000
[32:47] to a million dollars. And really what happened was that engineers, uh, third party
[32:52] estimate we, we did not see was reflective of, of what the bidders
[32:56] are, because the bidders kind of honed in on price here with the, the, the two bids
[33:00] we received at 11 and a half. So really what I think the $12 million
[33:04] bid we had before was probably the, the, the closer or the more reflective
[33:08] bid, the 10 million likely had stuff that was not reflective in it. And,
[33:13] and so we did see movement, not necessarily the movement
[33:17] we wanted, but I think ultimately, you know, we're, we're looking at a more realistic price
[33:21] here. Um, and as roger said, we're gonna, um, go
[33:25] to the, uh, the round table and, and bring it back a couple options on, on
[33:29] what we can do with this project.
[33:35] and the, and the project continues, and the project, uh,
[33:40] continues. Yes. Uh, wharf road, uh, uh,
[33:44] right at 37 wharf road from 20th to 23rd street, um, you
[33:48] can see we, uh, completed a phase. So we have half of, uh, 22nd
[33:52] street there. Uh, the west half, um, it's not open for traffic yet,
[33:56] but that's mainly because of the way that we're operating. We could open it for
[34:00] traffic. Uh, but, but we feel like the way that things have been going, it's been pretty smooth. So
[34:05] we're keeping that, uh, as it is, uh, it is open for traffic into the,
[34:09] in and out of the parking, uh, lot right now. Moving on construction.
[34:13] and the thing I really like about this is you got the, the new, the in progress and
[34:17] the old infrastructure as you kind of look into the background of the picture. So definitely
[34:22] shows the progress we're making. Um, the
[34:26] stuff we just completed from 22nd street to 23rd street, there's a
[34:30] lot of small phases in there because of the cruise operations, we, we had to keep that open.
[34:35] um, and as you look down at the financial update and you see
[34:39] the 44% on construction materials testing while the, the,
[34:43] uh, construction contracts at 30%. I think that's kind of the reason that the
[34:47] trend we've been seeing is because of a lot of those small phases we had
[34:52] to do with concrete pores and geotech, we had to have, uh, a lot more iterations
[34:56] of testing coming out. So we're keeping an eye on that, but ultimately we see
[35:00] larger phases as we move into these, uh, blocks from 22nd street
[35:04] down to 20th street. We'll continue to track those percentage. Uh,
[35:08] jeff, is, is the rail coming out? Are you taking that rail out? So,
[35:13] uh, yes. The, the old abandoned, uh, like class
[35:17] one rail is coming out. Yeah, the rail for the city trolley system
[35:21] is staying in place. Okay. Yeah.
[35:26] so, and that trolley rail is that serviceable?
[35:31] it, it will be serviceable. They have taken this loop out of service for
[35:35] right now, so, uh, but, but, but it's remaining intact and will be opened
[35:39] again once, uh, the project is completed. Yeah.
[35:45] uh, the adm grain tower demolition just working, you know, the, uh, working on
[35:49] closing out the punch list, we have, uh, and, and project close out.
[35:53] um, as you can see right now, there's, uh, um, a hundred
[35:57] or 200 and, uh, I'm sorry, $120,000
[36:03] worth of, uh, contingency, not 220, I'm sorry, my, uh, that we,
[36:07] it is gonna remain unused on this project. Okay. What, what's the condition
[36:11] on this, uh, p or, yeah, pier. Um,
[36:16] uh, so, so that, that pier was constructed in the seventies,
[36:20] 1970s, so it has already seen, uh, 50 years of life.
[36:25] it's a reinforced concrete cast in place structure. Um, there
[36:29] are damages that kind of exist throughout, but nothing that's, uh,
[36:34] prohibiting the kind of the service life of it at this point. Uh, definitely needs to see
[36:39] some tlc, uh, some, some, uh, kind of general concrete repairs,
[36:43] uh, throughout. Um, but, but, uh, I, I don't see
[36:48] another 30 years in its future without some kind
[36:52] of major upgrades, uh, to it. Uh, uh, but
[36:56] yeah, that, that's, we have that in our project. It, it is in that project. Yeah.
[37:00] project list, we have that, but it have to be pressed in the service. Sorry,
[37:05] it could be pressed in the service, or it already is. It is in service. It continues to be in service right
[37:09] now. It's probably one of the most heavily used earth. That's the one
[37:13] we built the heavy road out to. Yeah, that 34.
[37:19] yeah. This, this pier has a, a lower service capacity than pier
[37:23] 34. So right now with the roll on, the log on cargo that's happening,
[37:27] um, uh, there, the heavier cargo has to be discharged at 34,
[37:31] whereas lighter cargo would be discharged at this per, so jeff,
[37:35] this was constructed in the seventies at some point.
[37:39] and would you say it's, or is it fair to say that until we started doing
[37:43] a big project with tex stock dollars and our fema project
[37:48] on the west end, there's really been no other significant
[37:53] work on the dock here, correct. For
[37:57] like 50 years? Oh, yes. On the west end, that's for sure. Yeah. The only new project
[38:01] we did for peers was back in 2012, and that was at 1618.
[38:06] thank you. She .
[38:10] oh, I was just gonna ask the work that, um, that you're saying needs,
[38:14] needs to be done, sort of the basics. Is that something that we can do in house? Uh,
[38:19] no. Like some of it, some of it we might like, probably smaller
[38:23] concrete repairs we can do in house, but some of it's gonna be like vertical overhead, concrete repair
[38:27] under the dock, and that's something we wouldn't be able to probably for
[38:33] the railing, the rail that's supposed, that is rail that's posted to the dock, right? Mm-hmm .
[38:37] is that staying out or is that just pulled up? No, that's, that's staying out. We utilize that.
[38:42] and then one of the things we'll be coming to you to talk about is once that, uh,
[38:46] this is, once this project's done is, uh, is some development
[38:51] or some really upgrades to that area, you know,
[38:55] paving, you know, and those kind of things, so they can be more usable for lay
[39:00] down at the cargo. And uh, you know, obviously there's, there's cruise parking
[39:04] just to the south of it on the, on the, near the
[39:08] terminals. So, you know, we coming back to you with, uh, you know, some thoughts
[39:12] about how we pave that, grade it and, and get, get it more usable,
[39:17] which is the whole reason is we took it down here, 39,
[39:22] uh, 38, 39 project. Uh, very, uh, yeah,
[39:26] no, I mean this, this, we've done a lot of work for a very long time, and you're really seeing, uh,
[39:31] this is really, that's a great photo. Yeah, it's, I mean, honestly like for,
[39:35] for land reclamation, this really looks like a beach nourishment project with the quality
[39:39] of material we're getting, uh, and where we're, so we're very excited about that,
[39:43] um, changing daily. I mean, this, this is, this picture's probably about a week
[39:48] old, so it, there's more sand in the slip, uh, now than there was when this was
[39:52] taking place. So, uh, that's after about just about a month's worth of,
[39:56] of pumping into the slip. This is looking, uh, the, the status. And so
[40:01] I'd say no more than a month will get us to where we're full, but there's still,
[40:05] you know, uh, where we are right now is we're kind of at,
[40:09] we're close to future grade right now at this northern
[40:13] end of the slip, but they're going to start stockpiling this material because the
[40:18] contract has them putting in this surcharge about five foot of surcharge over
[40:22] the whole slip. So we'll hopefully accelerate that settlement consolidation
[40:26] process. This won't re, this won't, this won't
[40:30] require mechanical dewatering. Uh, so, so right now,
[40:35] uh, uh, we, we are doing, uh, hydraulic dewatering of this
[40:39] slip. Uh, what, what you see at the, the north end, the very far end of the slip, there's
[40:43] a little barge that's still floating up here. And so what the
[40:47] process is happening is, is, uh, west bay, the, the, the,
[40:52] the material is borrowed, is the term, but I know it's kind of quirky. We're not giving
[40:56] it back. We're not giving it back. Yeah. Uh, that's the borrow area. We're pumping it into
[41:00] here. Then at the other end of the process, there is a pump here,
[41:04] ah, uh, that is returning water either to, right here, you see the
[41:08] valve, it's either returning it directly into the channel if it's clean. If it's not, it sends
[41:12] it over to our placement area where it cool further settles out. And
[41:16] we haven't used the placement area yet. Uh, we haven't had to yet.
[41:22] so everything's clean enough to go back into the, into the channel right at this stage, which, which shows the
[41:26] quality of the material, like we're getting, I mean, greater than 95%
[41:31] good sand. Right? It's falling out quicker. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Very
[41:35] granular material. It's really, uh, rewarding to see
[41:40] this happening. 'cause, you know, we've only been talking about this for a long time, ,
[41:44] and, and now it's happening. So I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's rewarding to see new
[41:49] land being created for the port, and I think new revenues will come from this.
[41:53] and, and then we got our, uh, steve and other
[41:58] partners who are really excited about this and, and about, you know, already talking about
[42:02] what, what else they can do now with more land. And so I think it's really a
[42:06] positive, uh, development.
[42:11] uh, and then the next project, uh, 39 41, um,
[42:16] what they're moving towards, you know, they've completed all their fender and
[42:20] mooring, uh, bollard blocks. Those are the white blocks you kind of
[42:24] see every so often down, uh, the pier face. Now
[42:28] they're starting at the far end, and they're gonna be filling the, the concrete
[42:33] cap, uh, which is a little less substantial, uh, starting at the west
[42:37] end of the project, coming, coming to the east end. And then finally, they'll, they'll, uh, do
[42:41] pavement. This, this project's looking, uh, completion sometime around the end of may,
[42:46] whereas the, the previous project is looking like, uh, sometime later
[42:50] in the summer. But, but we're still tracking, I think right now for
[42:54] kind of a july timeframe to open up the birth, even though we might still be working on the slip
[42:58] fill portion, but the birth will, uh, likely be able to be open
[43:03] at that point in time.
[43:08] uh, old for industrial road, 33rd to 41st street.
[43:12] uh, this project, we received the bids, uh, just a few days ago on friday.
[43:17] um, and the bids of the, the low bid, I believe was somewhere right
[43:21] around 7 million, which, um, if you looked at the capital
[43:25] plan sheet, uh, earlier today, I think there's about 7.7 million
[43:30] on that project sheet for, for the project. So, um, we'll,
[43:34] we'll look, review that, uh, and, and look to bring you all a recommendation on that
[43:38] project. Uh, next month,
[43:43] uh, cruise terminal 16, uh, uh, basically
[43:48] still, uh, mark was mentioning still kind of going through. We still have a few punch list
[43:52] items open on the actual cmar project and, and, uh, we'll
[43:56] have to bring an item back to y'all next month for, for, uh,
[44:01] closing out that project. A few, few additional kind of last costs
[44:05] on that project. But, um, that's where we are with, uh,
[44:09] the term 16 project, uh, jeff design photograph,
[44:13] photographs of this, uh, this one was done by our no, john lewis in the
[44:17] back of the room. These are always so informative.
[44:22] thank you for whoever do, whoever does that stand up. John. John,
[44:26] stand up. Stand up. This
[44:31] is one of my seven jobs, .
[44:35] he's a drone operator and a, um, technical
[44:40] operator equipment, many talents.
[44:44] thank you, john. And you've seen that the pictures improve over time. We give him some
[44:48] feedback and the vantage point looks good. He's getting a minor in
[44:52] photography with us right now. You just have to watch the pelicans,
[44:56] right? You had, uh, yeah, you had at least one incident where you lost the two
[45:00] acids of yesterday. Two. Wow. Pelicans are drums.
[45:05] birds are vicious. No, this one, I think it looks like yesterday looked
[45:09] like a malfunction. Color loss yesterday.
[45:13] we'll, we'll get it in. We upstairs,
[45:18] uh, the passenger boarding bridges still have, uh, some remaining punch
[45:23] list items open on, on the, the port, the boarding bridges.
[45:27] uh, so they're, they're planning a trip to return in march to close out those open
[45:31] items. What are those, jeff? Is it just little, little
[45:35] things or, yeah, I mean, right now there, there's been, um,
[45:39] some kind of, uh, issues with, with generator
[45:44] power on those. So those, those do have onboard generators, but whenever the, the,
[45:48] uh, uh, passenger boarding bridges operate on generator powers,
[45:52] there's been some kind of electrical harmonics issues, if
[45:56] that, um, kind of a technical look at what, what, that's the biggest thing
[46:01] we have open right now. Everything else is just like minor kind of aesthetic
[46:05] items, but, but that's the main, main issue right now. Nothing affecting the
[46:09] operation, but, but it, it just makes it, you know, the, the generators
[46:13] in here are two part one is for emergencies, which they can still be used for
[46:17] emergencies right now. But the bigger thing for us is operationally staff have
[46:21] to, um, continue to plug the generators in or plug the
[46:26] pbs in as they move down the dock base, uh, because of that one
[46:30] electrical issue, their troubleshooting,
[46:35] uh, the cruise terminal 16th p project, uh, we, uh, y'all
[46:39] approved, uh, agenda item last, uh, week to come close on
[46:43] this project. We are processing the payment of that final work, and we'll be releasing
[46:47] retainage. So I think we've received everything on this project, uh, that we receive
[46:52] from orion. So this project will be coming off the list.
[46:58] uh, then construction and maintenance, uh, 205 work
[47:02] orders, uh, open today, everyone closed. Um,
[47:06] I see the statistics on those. And then,
[47:11] so real odd, that's one month. That's, uh, or two,
[47:17] you're right.
[47:21] well, honestly, it is really like a month and a half because this report was put together,
[47:26] you know, about a week. So,
[47:30] yeah. And then, uh, on the next slide, we've got some pictures
[47:34] of just what the guys have been doing, bedliners, building out some, uh,
[47:38] kind of, uh, office spaces and landscaping.
[47:42] uh, and then, uh, uh, pest, uh, this was, uh, actually an
[47:47] herbicide. Uh, they're spraying on tracks, building new water boxes,
[47:51] and, um, at lot b we're doing some, uh, improvements
[47:55] to the existing driveway on 33rd street to make it so we can
[47:59] have more, uh, throughput into the lot off of the street.
[48:04] so having the construction maintenance group continues to generate value for the port.
[48:08] absolutely.
[48:13] um, you, you can see this is our, uh, this, this is through the end of
[48:17] january. And, uh, you know, again, you
[48:21] see the different types of, I just, what this
[48:25] does, it shows that our police department's pretty busy. Um, you know, especially with this
[48:29] new terminal opening and, uh, you know, having to service that terminal
[48:34] also. Uh, you know, so they're doing a good job and, and you see the different types
[48:38] of things that they're having to deal with. I like it more
[48:42] horizontal. This way it's easier to read, it's easier.
[48:46] um, this is just, just gives you an idea of the, of the, uh, port
[48:50] id cards and that the access, um, that, you
[48:54] know, are, uh, we track, um, just in, in closing, you know, just,
[48:58] uh, we always like to show, and here again, a lot of drone pictures, but it just kinda
[49:03] shows you if you don't see it every day, you know, there's a lot of
[49:07] activity going on and, and you can see what, uh, what's happening out there.
[49:11] um, the events, uh, you know, we did have a port mission plan meeting
[49:15] here, uh, that I talked about earlier. Um, getting ready for the next
[49:19] legislature. Um, the annual meetings we have, we're going
[49:23] through our annual meetings with our, with our tenants as well as our, our
[49:27] customer and our, our partners. Um, so we met with
[49:32] the galveston railroad and metro ports. Um, we had the real estate committee meeting,
[49:36] which was, was, uh, right before our special meeting, uh, about the master
[49:40] plan. Um, we did have our annual, uh, staff
[49:44] retreat, um, which we get together off site and, and
[49:48] go over, uh, the, our swot analysis that we do
[49:52] every year, challenges and opportunities. And,
[49:56] and then we, we revisit our goals and our, our purpose
[50:00] and all those kind of things. Um, uh, at a day, um,
[50:05] offsite. And there was a big meeting, uh, that I attended, uh,
[50:09] on the 17th with randy weber about the future of pelican
[50:13] island bridge. Um, there is, uh, some differing of opinions
[50:18] on what that should look like. And so there's a,
[50:22] there is a movement. Um, I attended another meeting yesterday about this.
[50:26] um, there is a group that wants to change the character of that bridge.
[50:31] um, and, and what, what's happening now is they're analyzing
[50:36] if they do change the character of the bridge, what does it do, um,
[50:40] to the existing bridge? Do you know, where does it, where, how does it affect
[50:44] the progress that's already been made on the existing bridge? And I think eric,
[50:48] eric attended that, uh, yesterday with, with me. Um, and
[50:52] we had, we as, as brett said, we met with colonel day day. Seems like, you
[50:56] know, he's a, he's the newest colonel here in, in town. He brought his staff
[51:01] in, so he had a good meeting. Um, you know, he seems to be a, a proactive
[51:05] hands-on type of colonel. So that's, that's really, uh,
[51:10] benefits us quite a bit. Um, and we had a, you know, yesterday we had a meeting with ports
[51:14] of america. Um, we've got an engagement coming up this week to talk
[51:18] to o'connell high school about the mayor tommy economy.
[51:22] what time is that gonna be? Nine
[51:27] or 10:00 am 9:00 am and
[51:31] then today's board meeting. Uh, just a couple of things. Uh, you know, this was our
[51:35] service award from last week. Um, I was fortunate to, as you know, we
[51:39] got the rudy typing award, uh, from the chamber.
[51:43] and then here's a picture of our staff retreat. We have this over at the tremont, and we, we
[51:47] talk about a lot of various things, and then here's
[51:51] a group of, uh, characters at
[51:56] the, uh, at the chamber meeting. Okay,
[52:01] cool. Alright. Any other questions for roger?
[52:06] I didn't mention? I guess everybody knows that vic was the gal
[52:10] of the year, allstone
[52:15] year to us every year. Yeah.
[52:19] why honor, I guess it's, it's worth mentioning, since we're just talking about the
[52:23] bridge and the meetings that are going on, is, is that the efforts
[52:28] in, in looking at an alternative design for this bridge and are in no
[52:32] way impeding or slowing down the progress that's being made on the existing bridge
[52:37] may not to slow anything down maybe
[52:41] yeah. Correct. I mean, if, if
[52:45] will, will we have a time to talk about that or is I thought yeah, we've got some time to talk about
[52:50] it. Going to do that now. You want to do it?
[52:55] it's probably a good, we can good time. Yeah. It's probably a good time to you. Yeah, go ahead, craig.
[52:59] yeah, I, I, I think, you know, I think all of us, I,
[53:04] I can't speak for council because we, I have
[53:08] it on the agenda for council for thursday for way
[53:12] in on this, but I think I can speak for myself
[53:18] in an ideal situation. We'd love to have rail on that.
[53:22] and that's, and I think that's what a land bridge gives us.
[53:27] if we can move forward with the land bridge and, and
[53:31] move that in a efficient manner where it's not taking us
[53:35] 10 years down the line to get this thing done, I think that
[53:39] would be everybody's best interest to do that.
[53:43] um, as we know, uh, txdot has
[53:48] led the charge on this current bridge. They're the ones that came up with
[53:53] the design on that bridge. The engineering the city
[53:57] work had no input to that. Uh,
[54:01] tdot is, is ling swords that if we
[54:05] move to a land bridge, they're fine with that, but they're out of it
[54:10] and they're pulling all their money outta it, which is 77 5
[54:14] something million dollars right now. So
[54:18] I'm not sure where tdot is exactly on this. We've got
[54:22] another meeting coming up the, uh, this coming monday
[54:27] that, uh, I think we're gonna talk that out. I don't know where
[54:32] tdot is on that. I'm not sure where tdot is.
[54:37] I think the concept of moving forward with the current
[54:42] bridge as well as moving forward with,
[54:46] you know, running all the traps on the, on the land bridge,
[54:50] I think that's a good approach. Personally, I'm not sure tdo
[54:54] is gonna go for that. Tdo may say, guys,
[54:58] look, we're gonna put things on pause until we, you guys, tell
[55:02] us what you want to do. 'cause I'm not sure if textile wants to move forward
[55:07] and spend a lot of time at more expense moving
[55:11] towards a current bridge. If this land bridge is really,
[55:15] uh, could be a viable alternative here. And
[55:20] I don't know where we are time-wise on that. I think that's
[55:24] kind of where we are at the city on this right now. Uh, we don't,
[55:28] we're in the middle. We're in, we're in the middle of this, you know, with you and the city. And, and, and
[55:32] I know I was a meeting yesterday. Brian was there, and, and you know, that I, I think
[55:36] the consensus is, is what you're saying is, is we don't want to impair
[55:40] what's already being done, but we don't, we want to have the discussion
[55:45] simultaneously if there is a different alternative. I mean, I, I,
[55:49] I thought from the meeting the other day that, that glen albert and with, with
[55:53] tdo made it pretty clear that he's got his marching orders, he's going forward
[55:57] with this bridge. And he said that at the meeting, um, we're going forward
[56:02] with this bridge. Um, there's just a, uh, a group that's
[56:06] saying, well, if, if there's an alternative, we don't wanna stop the bridge going
[56:10] forward, but if there's an alternative, um, let's
[56:14] have a discussion. And I think that that's really where it's
[56:18] at. And that's what I'm seeing. I mean, more and more is don't stop the old
[56:22] bridge. But if there comes a time when it makes sense that we
[56:27] would do something like that, then, um, you know, and, and I,
[56:31] I don't, I mean, what I understand is the only money that tdot having
[56:35] is, has in this is the design. And they've sent
[56:39] about about $7 million. I think you told us on the design work
[56:44] and, and that kind of stuff, but they have no money
[56:48] in it as far as construction is concerned. Correct. And
[56:52] so that's all falling. And, and the latest, uh, numbers that were brought forward in
[56:56] that meeting was that there are somewhere around 300 million
[57:01] for the bridge and there's a shortfall of 145 million
[57:07] that no one knows where it's coming from. 205 million.
[57:11] see, it just go, it just keeps going up and up and, you know, so it, it's a
[57:15] land bridge, a land bridge. The little do I
[57:19] know about it, but the land bridge, first of all, would be less to
[57:23] construct. Second of all, maintenance wise, looking into the future,
[57:28] the land bridge would be so much easier to manage
[57:33] than this giant bridge that they've designed the tech stock has
[57:37] and, and doesn't a land bridge help with our dredging
[57:41] here? Yes. There's significant mayor mentioned it. A land bridge
[57:46] in a sense is, is is everlasting. Yeah. And any bridge that's,
[57:51] you know, a span, a span has a lifespan, 50, 80 years,
[57:55] whatever, you're gonna have to replace it and you're gonna have to spend money to maintain it over that time spent.
[57:59] but a land bridge is relatively low maintenance. It it,
[58:03] in the concepts of the land bridge, is there a
[58:07] pleasure boat conduit or something through it, or to be
[58:12] determined way, way ahead of, of everything right now, because
[58:17] you, you have to first get it in the application process
[58:21] of, of got it. Will, will the army corps entertain the
[58:25] study? Will they entertain it first? Got it. And then once they entertain it, then you're talking about the environmental
[58:30] studies. Got it. Okay. And the army corps was at these meetings also. And,
[58:34] and one thing I would point out is, is I, I think that, you
[58:38] know, technically it's not a bridge, right? I mean, technically, um,
[58:42] it's, it's like a causeway. I mean, it's not really, if
[58:46] you, if you cut it off, you know, it becomes a yeah. It becomes a causeway
[58:51] over to the over pelican island and does not have the character
[58:56] or the name of the bridge associated with it. 61st street, which kind
[59:00] of changes who does it too. I mean, yeah. Yeah. It's,
[59:04] and it goes, I'm sorry, roger. No, go ahead. Ahead. Bridge. But
[59:08] in that, that's an interesting concept to me. I'm being told
[59:12] that if it turns into a land bridge, it may be that
[59:17] road project would then come to play and it would be
[59:21] a farm market road. It's possibly the county could, could
[59:25] own that and so forth. And, you know, one of the questions
[59:29] I have is, let's say we move in the direction of landbridge
[59:34] and tdot is not involved. And I still think that's
[59:39] not a mixed in stone that they won't be involved if it's a
[59:43] land bridge. But if they're not, we need to get a champion that's
[59:48] going to manage this whole project of the
[59:52] construction and all of that, and who that champion will be.
[59:57] we need to look at that and, and see, I, I don't,
[1:00:01] you know, the county's a possibility the city is,
[1:00:05] I'm hearing port of galveston is a possibility on that to,
[1:00:09] to manage that whole project. So, uh,
[1:00:13] what I'm excited about is, is that I think it's an alternative
[1:00:18] that has a lot of merit. And, um,
[1:00:23] if we can work out the logistics and the timeline,
[1:00:27] uh, I think we can, a land bridge would be, looking
[1:00:31] down the line would be far better for economic development.
[1:00:35] I think that's the key is e economic development is the key
[1:00:39] of this, you know, conversation. You know, it's not
[1:00:43] just access to the, to the, to the pelican island, but it's the
[1:00:47] development of pelican island and, and its future. And to vic's point
[1:00:51] earlier, you know, between the army corps and the port,
[1:00:56] having to maintain the federal channel and births, you're talking $30 million
[1:01:00] a year cost to maintain water deaths. And
[1:01:04] with a structure like that, um, could, could reduce it significantly.
[1:01:08] so you're, when you're out looking for funding and you say,
[1:01:13] well, over the course of the next five, 10 years, you're saving this much. Exactly.
[1:01:17] would you consider putting that money in advance into this, this piece of infrastructure
[1:01:21] that could save you money down the road? And I wasn't there. But the other angle
[1:01:25] is it's a national security issue with our icebreaker factory. Well,
[1:01:29] that's right. I mean, that's a, a new game changer
[1:01:34] all the way around. I keep bringing that up because that is a possible
[1:01:38] way to get funding federal, federal funding.
[1:01:42] you're exactly right. And, and you know, as we know, there's other
[1:01:47] interests on other companies have interests now in pelican
[1:01:51] island, and I think rail is, is important
[1:01:55] to these other countries. We hear that davy is fine without
[1:01:59] rail, even though they'd love to have it over there. But
[1:02:03] I think to expand the rest of that acreage over there,
[1:02:07] possibly in a partnership before we used it, um, requires
[1:02:12] rail. We need to have rail. Sheila. Yeah, just
[1:02:17] building on what you said, I, I hate to sound like a complete moron,
[1:02:21] but why would we build a bridge to pelican
[1:02:25] island doesn't have rail. 'cause
[1:02:29] everything we talk about in terms of pelican island on this
[1:02:33] board for numerous years now,
[1:02:38] it, it is essential, it is pivotal to have rail.
[1:02:42] and so, um, you know, I don't know what we can do as a board. I don't know that we should
[1:02:46] step out, um, and take a leadership role on this. But
[1:02:51] what is, what is a pelican island bridge without rail really
[1:02:55] gonna do for us, especially at $300 million?
[1:02:59] yeah. That's, that's what on earth. Well, and I, I
[1:03:03] think that that is, you know, the general consensus is what, what you just stated,
[1:03:07] that's the general consensus is why would we spend $300 million
[1:03:12] and, you know, when there's another way to save a lot of money,
[1:03:16] um, you know, environmentally, you know, that's, that's the, that's the big question. Mm-hmm
[1:03:21] . And whether or not, you know, if you were to close that off or even
[1:03:25] keep it partially open, um, you know, um,
[1:03:29] what does that do to, to the silting and what does that do to the current,
[1:03:33] uh, that's carrying that silt? And I, I do believe that one of the parties
[1:03:38] at the meeting yesterday was talking about they've done a preliminary study
[1:03:43] themselves. They paid for it. And their indications are that it doesn't
[1:03:47] really, um, cause 'cause one of the, one of the problems or
[1:03:51] one of the issues is, is the concern that the silt has now
[1:03:55] stopped it at, at the edge of the west part of our
[1:04:00] channel and then gets funneled north and then it ends up in the channel
[1:04:04] where in, in the houston ship channel. And the, the early results
[1:04:08] on this hydrology study is that it does not.
[1:04:13] and so that would, that would trigger I think, more support from other
[1:04:17] parties that were, are interested. If that doesn't happen, then
[1:04:21] you might have a, you know, maybe the port of houston or somebody might be more interested. Their, their
[1:04:26] concern is what I just stated. Their, their concern is, um, do,
[1:04:30] do we start, um, silting up the ship channel
[1:04:34] now just move the problem to another area there,
[1:04:38] you know, in my mind too, and I'm saying this, I,
[1:04:43] you know, we need to, we need to determine all the details
[1:04:48] of this, but they, said on the current bridge, if they
[1:04:52] can get funding, they were prepared to let this bridge 29
[1:04:56] was or something like that. Even if this bridge,
[1:05:00] we moved to a land bridge and it wouldn't let until, or one,
[1:05:05] it would be worth it. Mm-hmm . It would be worth it to, to do
[1:05:10] something that will be sustainable and
[1:05:14] resilient, uh, out there and in really a
[1:05:18] public. And then you were there. That's the appeal that I made in the group the
[1:05:22] other day was let's, let's think about the future here. Yeah.
[1:05:26] I mean, let's really pay attention to that because over the past we
[1:05:30] haven't had the luxury of doing that. And I think now we might have that time.
[1:05:34] so let's, let's pay attention to what this is gonna do in
[1:05:39] the next 10 years, next 20 years and, and, and
[1:05:43] what it's gonna do to this area and jobs and economic benefits and everything.
[1:05:47] yeah. I think it, like vic said, you know, talk about the shift
[1:05:51] building and maybe additional, that, that almost becomes kind of a game changer
[1:05:55] too, to say there's, there's other, other reasons to, to move forward
[1:05:59] with that or change gears and build something to look for the future. So, well,
[1:06:04] it is tough when you get 50 people, you 50 people at that meeting, 50 opinions and
[1:06:08] there are 50 and, but you know, there is, uh, there is a
[1:06:12] compelling issue with what, with what she does said. Well,
[1:06:16] the bottom line is I think roger's representing the consensus of the board anyway at this
[1:06:20] point. I think we all feel a land bridge is
[1:06:25] needed there. Well, it's also I think that you're, there's 49 other people,
[1:06:29] right? But as far as the board and board councils is concerned, you're taking care
[1:06:33] of this. Well, and the key here I think is, is as craig said, is we've got
[1:06:37] parallel paths we gotta run now just so we don't lose what we've got.
[1:06:42] and in the event that there is a, uh, a consensus
[1:06:46] and there's about $36 million in funding that you guys are holding, but we've
[1:06:50] got it on deposit and what, what happens can that, you know, that's gonna be,
[1:06:55] um, out there for, if, if the bridge changes, then
[1:06:59] the character of that money may change. And we may be all forced with,
[1:07:04] okay, do we want to put a co some of our money at risk or do we wanna
[1:07:08] put some of our money that was held for this other bridge if the decision
[1:07:12] made that it's not run parallel anymore. But right now your,
[1:07:16] your money is tied up in with a, uh, specific purpose. Yes,
[1:07:20] it is. And the contracts that we have with the participants like ford of galveston
[1:07:24] is geared to this bridge of txdot bridge. Right.
[1:07:28] but what we might do if it moves to the land bridge, we could go
[1:07:32] back to the participants and see about changing the wording of those contracts.
[1:07:37] the shortfall would be much less. Right? Oh god, yeah. Yeah.
[1:07:42] much less. So. It is somewhat like the walkway here. Stay tuned.
[1:07:47] . I was just thinking that, you know, I was thinking across that
[1:07:51] bridge and I was looking at this, I was looking at this walkway is
[1:07:55] 12 million and I'm thinking to myself, no wonder that bridge costs
[1:07:59] so much that walkway true. It's $12 million.
[1:08:04] my goodness. Well, it's good discussion, I think just doesn't what I, what it used to. So, any other,
[1:08:08] any last comments? It's good discussion. Thanks for updating us. So stay
[1:08:12] tuned for further detail. So with that, I'm going to announce that
[1:08:16] we are moving into executive session section 5 5 1 0 7 1,
[1:08:21] consultation with attorney 5 5 1 0 7 2 real estate
[1:08:26] 5 5 1 0 7 4 personnel 5 5 1 0 7 6 security matters.
[1:08:30] and 5 5 1 0 8 7. Economic development
[1:08:35] at 1123. Thank you.
[1:08:42] john gives thumbs up. So I'm gonna declare us back in session at
[1:08:46] 2 0 3. So reconvene the regular meeting to e
[1:08:50] one is discussed and consider action, if any on specific matters discussed in executive
[1:08:54] session, which were listed on the agenda in sufficient detail to provide notice
[1:08:58] to the public as required by the texas open meetings act. I do not know why
[1:09:03] there were any, so we're gonna move on to business items. Uh, f1
[1:09:07] cfo report, consent, agenda as mr. Moore as
[1:09:11] yes. Finance chair. So I would, uh, move
[1:09:16] approval. We, we went through all of the items on the, uh,
[1:09:22] cfo's consent agenda and have had been thoroughly briefed and I
[1:09:26] would move, it's not approval. I would move acceptance.
[1:09:33] and sheila is being happy enough. Sheila is seconding. So we have a
[1:09:37] motion and a second. Any further discussion, comments, questions?
[1:09:41] all in favor of accepting the, uh, motion. Raise your hand. Any opposed?
[1:09:46] motion carries unanimously. F two, discuss and
[1:09:50] consider approval of port property, flood liability, excess liability,
[1:09:55] business, auto, public official liability crime, cyber terrorism
[1:09:59] and fiduciary liability insurance policy scheduled for renewal for the
[1:10:03] policy period. March 1st, 2026 to march 1st, 2027.
[1:10:08] ms. Lord, you heard from mcgiff earlier today and had good,
[1:10:12] good discussion. I believe the board is recommending to go to
[1:10:16] the higher 11th of limits of 75 million
[1:10:20] and so we would need a motion.
[1:10:25] go ahead. I was going to make a motion to, uh, bind the
[1:10:29] policy as presented at the 75
[1:10:36] second. Have a motion. We have a second. Mr. Trustee moore, any further discussion?
[1:10:42] I'd just like to say thank you for the staffer making our insurance
[1:10:47] rates drop and we are gonna have, uh, more of a
[1:10:51] discount and I'll send it out to everybody. Great. When we get the number this week
[1:10:55] sometime. Alright. Also like to say, while you
[1:11:00] people agree they've done this, but they also work on an ongoing
[1:11:04] basis to help us on risk management. And so they're
[1:11:08] they're very helpful. Yes. They're not just a service
[1:11:12] provider, but they good partner with us, so we appreciate they respond to
[1:11:16] us. Yes. And respond to us questions on say like battleship in service
[1:11:20] or something like that. Yeah, as an example. Alright, so we have
[1:11:24] a motion and a second. All in favor? Raise your hand. Any
[1:11:28] opposed? So motion carries. Union unanim. Thank you. F
[1:11:33] three, discuss and consider approval of purchase and installation of 1 150
[1:11:38] ton package hvac unit from trane, us, inc. At
[1:11:42] a cost not to exceed $350,000. Thank you, mr.
[1:11:46] chairman. Uh, the unit we have in, uh, question here
[1:11:50] is at cruise terminal 28. It was installed about 10 years ago when the
[1:11:55] facility was expanded. Um, at end of last year, we started seeing issues
[1:11:59] with, it's been working on, uh, some of the issues.
[1:12:03] uh, the primary issues have to do with the coils. We've done some kind of,
[1:12:07] uh, repairs in-house. Uh, however, we don't feel confident
[1:12:11] that those repairs may last us through the summer, which this is a kind
[1:12:15] of a single point of failure. This unit for conditioning, the first floor of cruise
[1:12:20] terminal 28 check-in building. Um, and so, uh, ultimately we're recommending
[1:12:24] replacement. Uh, we would be using, uh,
[1:12:28] the trane, uh, uh, buyboard for, for, for this purchase.
[1:12:32] um, and, uh, through the omnia partners, uh, agreement. And,
[1:12:37] uh, the cost would be $342,900 for the unit.
[1:12:41] um, and, uh, then cnm would install the unit. Uh, so
[1:12:46] I have 7,100 for the cost of ation.
[1:12:52] a maintenance program that follows this as well. Keeping it clean and the,
[1:12:56] all the yes. Yeah, no, and that's, I would say when this one
[1:13:00] was installed, um, we did not have full-time hvac
[1:13:05] person on staff. Uh, uh, carlos was, uh,
[1:13:09] hired, uh, back maybe eight years ago I think. And
[1:13:13] now we actually have a second hvac person on staff. And so, uh,
[1:13:18] absolutely we, we do our own pm in house. Um, uh, unfortunately the, the weather,
[1:13:22] it's very corrosive. Sure. It's very corrosive down here. So we see challenges with it
[1:13:26] still. Just one thing, jeff, I know in, uh, some
[1:13:30] residential and, and some commercial applications, there's a, uh, coating.
[1:13:35] coating. Yes. Is that something that y'all had, uh, looked into on these? Yeah, both. Both units.
[1:13:39] I think. I believe the old one was coded in this new one as coded as well. Still at,
[1:13:44] at end. Alright, motion for approval.
[1:13:48] brown motion. We have second, second from sheila. Any further discussions?
[1:13:53] questions for jeffrey? All in favor of the motion. Raise your hand. Any
[1:13:57] opposed? Motion carries unanimously.
[1:14:01] f four, consider and approve professional services agreement between
[1:14:05] the board of trustees of the galveston wars and stanley sperling and
[1:14:09] hamilton inc. For engineering services for repairs to pier 39 40
[1:14:15] at an amount not to exceed $65,000. Thank you, mr. Chairman.
[1:14:19] uh, the, uh, in in the briefing package, there's a figure showing the,
[1:14:23] uh, pier 39 40 cargo area. You can also see it up on,
[1:14:28] uh, up on the map here. Um, and so
[1:14:32] this is the area we are talking about. Uh, the, the upland area of, of 39 40.
[1:14:36] um, back in 23, all had approved a
[1:14:41] contract with, uh, stanley sperling hamilton to do engineering, uh, for
[1:14:45] the pier 41 pavement replacement. That project we finished about
[1:14:50] a year ago. Um, and we, you know, there was definitely some subject soils
[1:14:54] there, but ultimately the project was a successful project and we didn't end up
[1:14:58] using all of, uh, the approved funds on it. Um, as we get closer
[1:15:02] to pier 39 and 40 being opened, um, we
[1:15:06] expect that there's probably gonna be higher traffic down there, heavier loads now that we have
[1:15:10] a birth that can accommodate heavier loads set up here. And so we wanted to
[1:15:14] get ahead of, uh, kind of the existing pavement issues and future pavement
[1:15:19] issues by performing a design, uh, of the pavement, uh, and
[1:15:23] civil improvements at that site to rehab the pavement structures.
[1:15:27] um, ultimately right now, we wanted to do this design so that we
[1:15:31] can piecemeal smaller pieces, we can do in-house, uh, as
[1:15:35] well as maybe pieces we can do with the r and r budget. But ultimately this would also
[1:15:39] allow us to have a shovel ready project for grid dollars we might receive on the west end
[1:15:43] to prepare for a larger pavement improvement project. Um, and so,
[1:15:48] uh, we've reached out to stanley sperling and hamilton based upon our
[1:15:52] experience on past projects where they performed well, uh, for this pavement,
[1:15:57] uh, redesign. And, uh, we're recommending a, uh,
[1:16:01] professional service agreement for the pier 39 40 cargo area pavement
[1:16:05] replacement, uh, out of amount not to exceed 65,000 bucks.
[1:16:11] so, dr. Brown, see if I give you the, I'll give you the
[1:16:15] second, even though you were first, but that's all I was trying.
[1:16:19] that's okay. Dr. Brown made the motion to a second richard.
[1:16:23] question. Jeff, I just want to, and this is a stupid question 'cause you keep, it says pavement
[1:16:28] everywhere, but this will, this is gonna be pavement and not,
[1:16:32] I mean, when it gets redone, it'll be pavement and
[1:16:36] not concrete, or it'll be concrete pave. It'll be concrete. Yeah. Right. Right now it is
[1:16:40] a mixture of concrete pavement, concrete warehouse lab and brick
[1:16:44] warehouse lab. So we, in the end, mine have all concrete, all concrete would be what we
[1:16:49] design basically. It, it's what we did here for that's what I bought. We
[1:16:53] suppose that six, six acres, six uh, six and a half million dollars.
[1:16:57] yeah. So it's a really nice yeah. Area. And, and I think I'd
[1:17:01] say this really good thinking to get your engineering done so you've got
[1:17:05] it ready. Like say you can self perform, we get grant money. I mean, different ways we
[1:17:09] can go implement this over time, but it just, it continues to give us
[1:17:14] quality cargo areas to use in the future. Yeah.
[1:17:18] it's, it's been a while since I've been down there to do work, but I can remember
[1:17:22] when I was down there five, six years ago, it needed it. So
[1:17:26] I'm sure it really needs it now. It's a bit of a bumpy ride. That's a field chip right now.
[1:17:30] another thing's important about this is we found out in the past if we go tot stock
[1:17:34] for money, you know, then we get higher, higher
[1:17:38] chances and we got something ready to go. We can go tomorrow. We've started working yet,
[1:17:43] we already . Uh, we had a
[1:17:47] motion. Do we have a motion? Motion? We had a motion. Motion is second. We've had discussion.
[1:17:51] so all the question all, um, um, all in favor raise your hand
[1:17:56] like all seven. So six. Congratulations. Six.
[1:18:04] sorry. I know, I know victor, his hart would want us do this,
[1:18:08] but six, uh, f five discuss board attendance
[1:18:13] to sea trade crews global 2025, april 13th,
[1:18:17] 16th, 2026 and miami beach floor.
[1:18:21] this is our annual sea trade. Uh, you know, the biggest, the biggest event
[1:18:25] we attend for recruited business. And we always offer, you
[1:18:29] know, I think we have one or two. Two, is it two? Two. We have
[1:18:34] two in the budget for any trustees that are interested in attending.
[1:18:38] question. Roger, is this more of a booth, stand
[1:18:43] in a booth and talk to people? Or is it, are there classes, seminars?
[1:18:47] yeah, you know, we typically are focused around the exhibit
[1:18:51] hall, right? And that's where we put all our energies and all our costs and everything.
[1:18:55] there is another portion of this where there's, uh, speakers
[1:19:00] from the cruise lines from, you know, this is, is
[1:19:04] strictly crews. And so there's speakers there from different aspects.
[1:19:08] lots of times you hear they'll have a panel up there with the, the chairmans
[1:19:12] of the boards of all the cruise lines, and then they'll have people to talk from the,
[1:19:16] uh, course of call, you know, and, and talking about that.
[1:19:21] and so it's, it's, there is another program and, and we really
[1:19:25] usually don't participate. We usually are there because
[1:19:29] of, you know, all the action and with all our customers that
[1:19:33] want to meet. And that's really what it is. It's a networking event for us, uh,
[1:19:38] to talk to everybody we do business with. And so that's where we, we do most of, we, we
[1:19:42] have a nice booth there with a place to sit down and have discussions and stuff like that.
[1:19:46] and, and we, we, we spend close to a hundred thousand dollars a year
[1:19:50] on this one event, but it is the only event that we really do. And
[1:19:54] several of you guys have been there, you know, I didn't know last year, but it's,
[1:19:58] it's been, yeah, it's a good, like you said, it's really a networking, I think the way I would,
[1:20:03] it's not like a-a-a-p-a conference where there's a, a
[1:20:07] lot of seminars and things. It's really more of the networking with the cruise companies, with the service
[1:20:11] companies. The ba is there and seeing what other people are doing too. We, we have money
[1:20:15] for those meetings if you, if, if you want to go and attend
[1:20:19] those meetings, it's really having problem before. It's, it's really interesting. I mean,
[1:20:23] I would, I would, if you can, it's a good education of kind of, I know the
[1:20:27] first time I went it was, you walk away with the, the breadth and the depth of the
[1:20:31] cruise injuries. It's like, wow, this really is a global, uh, thing. And
[1:20:35] it's big and there's lots of zeroes after everything that gets done. So if you want
[1:20:40] to go, it'd be great if you, and you could go to the meetings and give us 20 page report
[1:20:44] when you get back . Sure. Um,
[1:20:48] yeah. Um, can I, do we have a day or two to yeah, I,
[1:20:52] I think it's just out there and if you've got interest to talk to, talk to angie. Just talk to angie.
[1:20:56] maybe a couple. Yeah. So move on to f six
[1:21:01] mobility update slash traffic study. Rfq. That's
[1:21:06] jeffrey, I guess at the podium. Thank you. Uh, yeah, no, I,
[1:21:10] I, uh, two things wanna do with this one.
[1:21:14] one is giving an update on the mobility, uh, study, um,
[1:21:19] mobility study. After the last real estate committee meeting, we did finalize the
[1:21:23] changes that were recommended outta that meeting and put it on the street. Um, currently
[1:21:27] it's a open, uh, qualifications package that, uh, we're accepting
[1:21:31] through march 17th. We'll close the, the, uh,
[1:21:36] the solicitation and then we'll review the packages and ultimately come back to the real
[1:21:40] estate committee and reward for, uh, further recommendations,
[1:21:45] uh, work on that. Um, and then the, the second item we
[1:21:49] had for you was, uh, uh, uh, we did, I think roger mentioned in the special
[1:21:53] board meeting that we had received some information back from a traffic
[1:21:57] study on, uh, a terminal 14 of post terminal
[1:22:02] 14. And so just wanted to give you a quick, uh,
[1:22:06] quick overview on that. They did provide a few slides based upon,
[1:22:10] uh, uh, some traffic studies. They,
[1:22:15] and, and really real quick on this, uh, introduction slide,
[1:22:19] uh, the purpose was to, uh, analyze the traffic operations for
[1:22:23] future cruise terminal 14 and 14th street and ro caribbean way and ro caribbean
[1:22:28] way for, uh, is the street, not, not the harborside, but the street immediately
[1:22:32] north of harborside and north of what we call south lot goes east from
[1:22:36] cruise criminal, um, right here street. So
[1:22:40] yeah, 14th street east is road caribbean lane, 14th street west is war
[1:22:44] road. Um, from star trek. From star trek
[1:22:49] wharf. Yes. Yeah, that I, I I didn't see that
[1:22:54] h uh, terminal, uh,
[1:22:58] 14 along with, uh, terminal 16. And, uh, uh,
[1:23:02] ultimately all five in this case, uh, cruise terminals
[1:23:07] were, were subject of this, uh, kind of traffic study. If you go to the next slide,
[1:23:11] john, uh,
[1:23:15] so the, the, the, the work here ultimately was done by gft,
[1:23:19] which is ga fleming trans systems. Um, and, uh,
[1:23:24] trans systems was the company that did the port's,
[1:23:28] uh, traffic study back in, uh, 2020. And so it talks
[1:23:32] about, uh, there, there were new risk streets kind of up and down harborside
[1:23:37] and broadway, which they had data from, from that study. And to
[1:23:41] supplement that data, they collected traffic, uh, in december
[1:23:45] of last year at, uh, five intersections, 14th street, harborside,
[1:23:49] 14th street, broadway, 25th street, and harborside 25th street and
[1:23:54] broadway, and, uh, rural caribbean way and circle, which rural
[1:23:58] caribbean way and circle that. So, so go east from 14th street,
[1:24:02] that's rural caribbean way. Then you take a left off of that to head up to the front
[1:24:06] of the terminal. That's the rural caribbean circle. So that, that second light traffic
[1:24:10] signal just east of 14th and wharf road is, is where they took the, the fifth,
[1:24:14] uh, traffic counts. Next slide. Um,
[1:24:18] the, the models that they, uh, assessed were the 2025 base model.
[1:24:23] uh, this was basically to kind of look at the growth from that
[1:24:27] emission, uh, 2020, uh, traffic study and all, all of,
[1:24:31] uh, those items. Uh, one of the things that they did to get the
[1:24:35] full effect of, uh, kind of what the cruise
[1:24:40] terminal was while harmony of the seas was at cruise terminal 10,
[1:24:44] they collected traffic at 14th street and harborside and rural caribbean
[1:24:49] way and rural caribbean circle. And so they attributed the traffic that was
[1:24:53] all entering that facility to, um, equal, uh,
[1:24:57] the, uh, to, to equal the kind of the effects of, uh, terminal
[1:25:01] tens traffic on, on that intersection. Because from 2020,
[1:25:06] there was no cruise terminal at that location to 2025. Now, where we had the
[1:25:10] cruise terminal in operation, um, they then added that
[1:25:14] additional load to the system for, uh,
[1:25:18] crews from one 14. Um, so, so in 2030, what they did,
[1:25:22] one, they did two different models. They did a no build model, uh, where
[1:25:27] it was just looking at, uh, increases in traffic volumes where they
[1:25:31] looked at a 5% rate, which was a pretty conservative rate, greater
[1:25:35] than what was actually seen, um, with the data they
[1:25:39] reviewed. Um, and they looked at 2030 with the no build and then
[1:25:44] 2030 with, uh, the, the, the build model.
[1:25:48] um, and so build model added in those additional traffic counts that were
[1:25:52] coming from the data they selected off of, uh, the cruise terminal 10,
[1:25:57] uh, impacts to the 14th street harborside intersection.
[1:26:01] and so out of that, they, they did some traffic simulations. And on
[1:26:05] the next slide, what they show is this is how the,
[1:26:09] the, uh, the intersection performed in a build
[1:26:14] situation with no mitigation improvements. And what you see is,
[1:26:18] uh, um, a additional, uh, backup in the left turn
[1:26:22] lane of harborside drive eastbound and, uh, southbound
[1:26:27] out of 14th street. Um, the other thing that you can see is that, uh, there
[1:26:31] is some minor impacts on the westbound traffic at harborside
[1:26:35] drive at the signal. Um, and so, so this is kind of, I'm, I'm trying to
[1:26:40] do the overall, you know, high, high level here, um, of, of all the intersections
[1:26:44] up and down harborside drive that they looked at. This was the one intersection
[1:26:48] that was really impacted, uh, significantly from
[1:26:53] the, uh, the, the additional cruise traffic at, uh, cruise
[1:26:57] terminal 14 added. And so based upon what
[1:27:01] they see here and the effects they saw of, uh, the crews
[1:27:05] from a 14 additional traffic at this intersection, they recommended some improvements. And that's on
[1:27:09] the next slide. Um, there is one was extending the left turn storage
[1:27:14] capacity, uh, which would allow for more of those, uh, vehicles that
[1:27:18] you saw kind of queuing in the main lanes of harborside to be able to get off into a center lane,
[1:27:23] a dedicated center lane, um, uh, to, to kind of store off the
[1:27:27] main lanes. Second improvement was, uh, at that intersection
[1:27:31] right now, east and westbound traffic have to wait for a dedicated, uh, turn
[1:27:35] signal to turn, uh, they recommended, uh, adding in
[1:27:39] the flashing yellow light so that they could turn when clear, um,
[1:27:44] to go. And then the third improvement that they suggested,
[1:27:48] uh, to mitigate the effects that that intersection was installing.
[1:27:52] uh, a that we have two northbound lanes coming out of 14th and harborside
[1:27:57] drive. They said that since we only have a turn lane, one turn lane
[1:28:01] from eastbound left turn into that, we have one turn bound or one
[1:28:06] straight northbound lane. And then we had one eastbound, or one westbound
[1:28:10] lane that had uses a channelized lane to enter that area. Uh,
[1:28:15] we could make that a dedicated right turn to accept the, the channelized,
[1:28:19] uh, traffic directly onto 14th street without having them to yield to oncoming
[1:28:24] traffic. And so what they did then was with these improvements
[1:28:28] in mind, they remodeled the intersection. And the next slide shows the
[1:28:32] kind of the results of, of, um, of,
[1:28:36] of, of those improvements being, uh, implemented at the intersection.
[1:28:41] so you can see there still is que inc. Uh, it has more place to queue,
[1:28:45] um, but due to the, the increased storage capacity
[1:28:49] as well as the flashing yellow left turns, it's able to
[1:28:53] clear out, uh, better than it was with the current existing improvements.
[1:28:57] that does not show the channelized right turn, correct? Uh, it
[1:29:01] does. Yeah. That's the, on the white truck is going through it right now. Okay.
[1:29:06] I thought it showed it just showing one northbound lane. Oh, you're right. This one
[1:29:10] actually doesn't, uh, that truck is stopped. It's either or on the right, it's either straight or turn. Right,
[1:29:14] because if you go back two slides yeah, there was a difference in, uh, yeah, you're
[1:29:18] getting rid of that right. Northbound and making it to where the,
[1:29:22] the folks that are queuing up in that right turn lane don't have to stop. Yeah, they don't, but they're
[1:29:27] stopping there. Yeah, they shouldn't. Yeah. Well, the way it's showing there, it's, it's, you know,
[1:29:31] either or you can either turn right or go straight. I think that that model, that, that does not
[1:29:35] show the benefit of that right turn lane. That right turn. Yeah. I
[1:29:39] like you can see that they did do something. If you go back no, on the 14th,
[1:29:44] if you go back, you'll see. Go back to the slide before.
[1:29:48] go go back one more, john, you said back back, yeah, back.
[1:29:55] uh, hit it again. I think it just stopped there. That right northbound lane should
[1:29:59] be blocked. Yeah. And they did change something in the model if you go back to slides that
[1:30:03] they before had them yielding. But anyway, that a good, good
[1:30:07] point too. Um, and so, yeah, so this is basically, I mean, we wanted, I I
[1:30:11] think, um, to share this with you, they, they still are working
[1:30:15] on the actual full report. It has all the traffic counts and everything from,
[1:30:19] from what they had looked at. But, um, that's
[1:30:24] kind of what we had to share from y'all for y'all right now at this.
[1:30:28] great.
[1:30:33] the way that they have numeric numerical, I mean a a bit
[1:30:37] more like this is a very, like, uh, it's a video you can, uh,
[1:30:41] understand better, but they also have, uh, and they'll have in the report a full level of
[1:30:45] service detail. That's how they're usually done is level of service a through
[1:30:50] f where c or better is, um, is, is
[1:30:54] basically an acceptable score, uh, based upon the number
[1:30:58] of seconds it takes each vehicle to get through the intersection. Level d and
[1:31:02] below is usually deemed unacceptable. So the
[1:31:06] previous video we watched with the, uh, the existing conditions
[1:31:10] down there was like a level e and with the mitigation improvements,
[1:31:15] their model was showing that it was operating at a level c. And so all
[1:31:19] the, all the intersections on harborside drive then with the, the,
[1:31:23] the proposed fifth, uh, cruise terminal would, uh, be operating
[1:31:27] at a level c were better. Do you remember, I'm trying to
[1:31:31] remember, jeffrey, with safe streets mm-hmm . Program, do you remember what
[1:31:36] you were gonna implement? Some improvements of 14 as well. I'm
[1:31:40] trying to remember what those were. I, I don't know off the top of my head, but the thing
[1:31:44] that I want to say, it has to do with the pedestrian, pedestrian signal sidewalks.
[1:31:48] mm-hmm . Now, um, jeffrey, this
[1:31:52] doesn't really focus on the increased traffic in the neighborhoods,
[1:31:57] like coming from, from broadway to, uh, down
[1:32:01] 14th moving north. This specific,
[1:32:05] uh, study does not, uh, look. Yeah, we
[1:32:09] there was no counts done in the neighborhood right there. No, it was just, just the counts of the counts
[1:32:14] on broadway. There's counts on broadway. Yes. Yes. Counts on broadway.
[1:32:18] okay. 14th and 25th street. Yeah. 14th. Same place
[1:32:22] as on harbor site. We did it 14th and broadway.
[1:32:27] did we confirm it? That was a four shift day. It was a four shift day when they
[1:32:31] took their counts. Yeah. December. No, so the count, there's counts
[1:32:36] at 14th and broadway. 14th and broadway 25th and broadway 25th
[1:32:40] and harborside 14th and harborside, we know what those counts were.
[1:32:44] they, they will be in the full published report right now. This I like, and
[1:32:48] this was just kind of a, where we are with what we have received. I know roger,
[1:32:53] the last special board meeting had mentioned that we've received this and we've kind of brief on
[1:32:57] what, what has been seen so far. But I think that's craig as part of the mobility study,
[1:33:01] I think to take a more detailed look at what, what's going down 14, right? What's going down 16,
[1:33:05] think those are some of the questions that we need to kind of understand and what,
[1:33:11] what's acceptable as far as types of traffic and numbers, traffic.
[1:33:15] and then also not, not spend too much time collecting recollecting
[1:33:19] the exact same data that has been collected and presented. Right.
[1:33:23] you said this was right at an e before, right? This, this one intersection started
[1:33:27] to c dipped from an e dipped to an e. You adding the additional
[1:33:31] traffic with the mitigation factors, the model showed it at a level c. Did
[1:33:36] you get a rating for the other intersections? I, I don't have it with me,
[1:33:40] but, but it'll be in the full report once we get that back. But basically it says we, you
[1:33:44] know, we can kind of, we can manage it. You can manage it getting in and out of the port,
[1:33:48] get in question we the more detail about, you know, shuttles
[1:33:53] and buses and other impacts than the neighbor pedestrians and other
[1:33:57] impacts in the neighborhood streets.
[1:34:01] so that's, yeah, that's really the up. I think we have a recommendation or anything at this point. Just, just wanted to
[1:34:05] update. No, thanks for sharing that. Its good. But I think you're right.
[1:34:10] I mean these, these things all kind of run, you know, linked together, right? You've got counts and data
[1:34:15] trying to feed those into the next, the next pieces of study there.
[1:34:20] okay. Thank you. Uh, so ff seven, discuss
[1:34:25] and consider annual maritime fundraiser for scholarships.
[1:34:29] roger reese. Well, you know, I kind of alluded to this a little bit earlier.
[1:34:33] um, you know, we're, uh, trying to add to our scholarship
[1:34:37] programs and um, you know, we just really wanted to, uh,
[1:34:42] talk a little bit about the maritime program that we're
[1:34:46] intending to have and, and it would be a sponsored program
[1:34:51] and we would, uh, you know, um, have the same kind of
[1:34:55] same kind of presentation and stuff we had this past year, which we had a lot of
[1:34:59] positive feedback from that. And then, you know, going into
[1:35:04] maybe a eip luncheon after that, um, where
[1:35:08] we would be able to thank sponsors and things like that. And this is just, you
[1:35:12] know, just letting you know that this is kind of where we think we're heading on
[1:35:16] maritime. There is some additional pieces, uh, down the road.
[1:35:21] I mean, we've, we've talked about would we go back and have a party
[1:35:25] on the pier again? And that's not what we're asking for here, but we're considering
[1:35:29] that plus a golf tournament so that we can continue to add to these scholarships.
[1:35:33] this is just a general discussion. We kind of talked about it in the port
[1:35:37] director's report that we'd like to have a, a maritime day event.
[1:35:42] and as a matter of fact, we had one person who already came up and said they'd be happy to do sponsorships.
[1:35:47] so I think it's, it's, I mean, it's a good thing for the community and we involved, we
[1:35:52] involve children and the school systems and, and
[1:35:56] those kind of things. As you saw, we had some, uh, little choir last year.
[1:36:00] so I think it's, it is a nice little event and just wanted to kind of let you know that's where we
[1:36:04] were heading and see if there was any objections.
[1:36:08] no objections. Congratulations. There's been a big push. Um,
[1:36:12] a new department being stood up at ball high, you're aware of
[1:36:16] really? Yes. Maritime logistics college
[1:36:20] as well, has a, has a pathway and uh, brett
[1:36:25] attends, uh, a meeting once a month, uh, with the chamber of
[1:36:29] commerce that brings gisd and galveston college and the middle schools
[1:36:33] odyssey together to try to figure out ways to, um,
[1:36:39] to expose these, these kids to the maritime industry and the opportunities that exist
[1:36:43] for them. And this is just another opportunity that we can to get them to the water
[1:36:47] and show 'em what's out there. A m also has a four year degree now in
[1:36:51] management. Maritime management, construction operations, operations. Yeah,
[1:36:55] so there is a business administration, mara, that's been there. There's a new
[1:36:59] one. This new one is supposed to be more of a, a, a pipeline to get 'em into, uh,
[1:37:04] maybe an entry level operations rule at these various, right, right. But I
[1:37:08] think it's good to strike by iron side people. We had two response last year for the, yeah,
[1:37:12] we had two, I think last year we had two classes from that came
[1:37:16] outside of this kind of program that came and we, we give 'em a tour and talk about
[1:37:21] maritime industry and things like that. I think it's available.
[1:37:26] violence participated in that and, uh, uh, doug's, I
[1:37:30] forget what the tug company was out there. G and hg and h was out there. And it's
[1:37:34] usually mark kelso's class that comes in. Yeah. Very
[1:37:38] good. Alright, thank you roger. No action. I don't think on that. No, it just, I think it's,
[1:37:42] I think this the sense of the board, if we, well, I guess we could ask if, if
[1:37:46] anybody wants to participate or sponsor, should we get with you, brett
[1:37:51] or ? Kind of, I would say go through,
[1:37:55] I mean go through angie, because the, that's where the logistics are, are happening, you
[1:37:59] know, the, the scheduling and right. All that kind of stuff. And kathy's
[1:38:04] certainly playing a, a part in this too. I don't want to leave you brett out
[1:38:08] if you want play a part. He certainly is. Well, he,
[1:38:12] he said he gets, he gets, he gets enough people coming to him for things,
[1:38:16] right. He's, we have a post guard cutter pencil in. So, exactly.
[1:38:21] but I think, I think the sense of the board is, you know, we really liked the way, I mean the,
[1:38:25] it was a great idea to do the, the, for the 200th anniversary and it turned out wonderfully
[1:38:29] and I think we want to continue that momentum on, on a smaller scale,
[1:38:33] but I think we, we want to continue, uh, what we're doing. So thanks for
[1:38:38] giving us that update. Uh, f eight, discuss and consider march
[1:38:42] agenda items only one. Um,
[1:38:47] we talked about a little bit if we could have presentation on marine green
[1:38:51] and what they're doing and, uh, all the activities, especially highlighting
[1:38:56] possibly the, uh, air quality and pollution and how that is
[1:39:00] being managed. Yeah. Monitoring, I think. 'cause I think that's things that maybe not everybody's aware of.
[1:39:04] right. Briefing on shore power at the same time and probably bringing kind
[1:39:08] of, you know, future plans there, so, okay. Yeah. But I'm
[1:39:13] hopeful we can do that. Yeah. Anything issue? Um, are we expecting
[1:39:17] to have, um, the proposals to look at for
[1:39:21] the pedestrian bridge over 25th
[1:39:25] in march? Mr. Yes, mr. I think you asked jeffrey a question about the, uh,
[1:39:30] proposal, your proposed path forward for the pedestrian bridge at 25th fifth street.
[1:39:35] yes. In march. Yes. Coming march. That's our goal. Okay.
[1:39:41] any other topics come to mind? Alright, with that,
[1:39:45] uh, I'm gonna move on to comments from the board of trustee
[1:39:51] willie, you go first with all the news that's happening in mexico. We just say prayers
[1:39:55] to the people that live there and are on vacationing there. It's
[1:39:59] my understanding it's happening more on the, uh,
[1:40:04] pacific coast, of course, but still any, any action that happens in
[1:40:08] the country that that's questionable. It does strike some fear in people
[1:40:12] that have booked cruises and that kind of thing, but from what we understand at this point,
[1:40:17] it's safe to cruise, it's safe to be to mexico and in those beaches and
[1:40:21] close to my area. Um, but our heart
[1:40:25] turns out to the people that, that are hurting because previous
[1:40:30] actions. Eric, just want to, uh, follow
[1:40:34] up on what willie said earlier and men, the staff on all of y'all's
[1:40:38] hard work. Um, it's your efforts that that kept, you know, insurance
[1:40:43] renewals down cnm, you know, keeping equipment and assets running
[1:40:47] properly and not breaking down and turning into a claim. It's the it department
[1:40:51] that's putting best practices forward and making sure that those cyber policies
[1:40:56] are coming in at at lower renewals. I mean, you name it, you go down every policy
[1:41:00] and there are staff involved that are, that are keeping those, uh, those premiums down.
[1:41:04] so thank you again from, from the board. Second
[1:41:08] vic's gonna pass. So move over to richard.
[1:41:13] I'd like to reassure what eric said and uh,
[1:41:18] we shall all marry what's coming up next.
[1:41:23] maybe it's easter st. Patrick spring
[1:41:27] break, coming break, spring break. Here they come. Ready or not.
[1:41:33] alright, thank you richard. Sheila. Um, same just
[1:41:37] staff second to none. And we've known that for quite a few years
[1:41:41] now. Um, on a personal note, and speaking of school children, uh, the annual
[1:41:45] gala lab for the galveston education foundation is next thursday.
[1:41:49] I suspect tony will be there. Yes. Um, we hope
[1:41:53] to raise, uh, I'm chairing it with a couple of friends and we
[1:41:57] hope to raise $150,000 for, uh, k through two
[1:42:02] reading. So please come out if you can.
[1:42:06] location, uh, moody gardens on thursday the fifth
[1:42:10] from six nine. Dr.
[1:42:14] mayor. Well, uh, thank you everyone, uh, supporting
[1:42:19] what everyone else has said. Um, uh, I would make just
[1:42:23] one comment. Uh, you know, I was looking at, we always
[1:42:28] talk about how good the cruise line's doing and rightly so, they're doing extremely
[1:42:32] well here on the port, but, you know, I'm so excited about
[1:42:36] here shortly that west end is going to explode out there.
[1:42:41] the things that are being done and all of the efforts that everyone here at the port
[1:42:45] is doing to do all the slip fields and, uh,
[1:42:49] rebuilding of the docks and bulkhead and so forth, uh, it's
[1:42:53] gonna be exciting to see that revenue stream start to really pick up
[1:42:57] what, and support and be a supplement to what we're already
[1:43:01] doing on the cruise lines here. So thank you roger, and
[1:43:05] all your staff for what you're doing, uh, out there to make that happen.
[1:43:10] and, uh, looking forward to a good, we have
[1:43:14] march roger. Uh, no,
[1:43:22] and I would just add, uh, for me the, the, the meeting, public meeting with
[1:43:26] the master plan, I think that was, I think that's really good to just have
[1:43:30] that scheduled and, and, you know, invite people over to the new terminal 16, right? Get opportunity
[1:43:34] for folks to see that and come out and, and give their comments and thoughts there.
[1:43:38] uh, and I'm pleased to see the, the new safety manager hiring in this
[1:43:43] near and dear to my heart on the thing. And to see that culture continue to grow
[1:43:47] and the getting more of the implementation and the resources
[1:43:51] behind that. I think that's been, it's a, it's a good, I mean, safety, like it's a journey. You
[1:43:55] just don't flip a switch and, but you, you have a journey that's been a really good journey that
[1:44:00] ports on. We see it paying off in insurance and other things, right?
[1:44:04] we, we've got less injuries and people like what we're doing, they feel safer
[1:44:08] and it's all to the good there. Our, our workman's compensation
[1:44:12] stuff goes down, so that's all, all together. We're, we're not hurting people.
[1:44:16] uh, and then finally I think just the opportunity for the city and the port to continue to
[1:44:20] work together on the mobility study and the integration of downtown
[1:44:24] to the port. I think that that's a, I mean, for my time on the board, I think I
[1:44:28] feel closer to, you know, how this
[1:44:33] board and city council is, is working together. Of course, we're gonna end up with a new council one
[1:44:37] day, so we, maybe we get, well we get to start building those, the new relationships
[1:44:41] there. But I think we've, we've got, we've got some momentum there. We've got some good positive
[1:44:45] momentum. We've got some, you know, meaty topics that we're working on that I think are
[1:44:50] gonna have a positive impact on the community. And I think that's really one of our
[1:44:54] key drivers for both city council and on the board is how do we serve the, serve
[1:44:58] and make better the community we live in. So that'd being say, quickly say,
[1:45:03] thank you, craig, for serving on this board. We don't get a chance to say it again.
[1:45:07] you've been, you and angela have been priceless to
[1:45:11] the city, so thank you for everything. Thank you. Appreciate that. And
[1:45:15] with that, I'm going to use my newly found gavel to adjourn us
[1:45:19] at two 40. Well.