1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,280 Don't reach out to me. 2 00:00:22,925 --> 00:00:25,920 [music] 3 00:00:23,519 --> 00:00:27,680 » Well, good evening. Uh, I will call to 4 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,439 order the special meeting of the Federal 5 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,599 Way City Council for Wednesday, November 6 00:00:29,439 --> 00:00:33,405 5th, 2025. Would you all please rise for 7 00:00:31,599 --> 00:00:35,425 the pledge of allegiance? 8 00:00:33,405 --> 00:00:35,425 [clears throat] 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,320 I 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,800 » Pledge allegiance to the flag of the 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:43,760 United States of America and to the 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:46,559 republic for which it stands, one nation 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:50,120 under God, indivisible, with liberty and 14 00:00:46,559 --> 00:00:50,120 justice for all. 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,879 » All right, everybody. Oh. Uh, before we 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,520 before I say anything else, uh, Council 17 00:00:54,879 --> 00:00:59,280 Member Tran uh will be absent today, but 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,039 uh, he had, uh, something going on with 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,120 his family, an illness of his family. He 20 00:01:01,039 --> 00:01:05,280 is excused. I'll say this again, uh, 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,200 for, uh, for the regular, uh, city 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,439 council meeting, uh, but for for the 23 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,520 special, uh, meeting uh, right now, he 24 00:01:09,439 --> 00:01:12,960 is excused. With that, I will turn it 25 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,960 over. We're have going to have a brief 26 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:17,680 city briefing uh, with regard to city 27 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:19,200 center access uh, um, and council 28 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,880 update. Desire Winkler will get us 29 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,040 started. She is the deputy public works 30 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,560 director for those watching at home. 31 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,479 » Uh good evening, mayor, members of the 32 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,759 council. Um I'll give a brief 33 00:01:26,479 --> 00:01:33,159 introduction and then I'm going to turn 34 00:01:27,759 --> 00:01:33,159 it over to u one of my staff members. 35 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:39,600 So um it's been about a year. Is this 36 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,360 the new forward thing? 37 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,799 It's been about a year I think since 38 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,640 we've given you an update, but a lot of 39 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:46,560 work has been going on and continues to 40 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,040 progress on our city center access 41 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,880 project. So, in order to make sure we're 42 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,439 all on the same page, we'll start out 43 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:56,000 with a project overview, we'll talk 44 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:58,719 about recent project activities, uh 45 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:01,040 discuss the coordination that is ongoing 46 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:04,079 with sound transit and their projects 47 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:06,240 and then also uh additional on the wash 48 00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:08,080 coordination. So, with that, I am going 49 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,346 to turn it over to Rick Perez, city 50 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,366 traffic engineer. 51 00:02:10,346 --> 00:02:12,366 [cough and clears throat] 52 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:20,160 » Thank you and good evening. So, um, 53 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,480 yeah, we're, um, just going to talk a 54 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:26,480 little bit about, um, starting off with 55 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:28,800 the background. So, um, we actually 56 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:31,520 recognize the need to address access to 57 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,599 and from and within City Center back 58 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:38,319 around 2002. 59 00:02:33,599 --> 00:02:41,840 And, um, that we got a formal, um, 60 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:44,080 project put together for an access study 61 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:47,280 in 2006. 62 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:50,239 um that resulted in uh the selection of 63 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:54,000 two potential alternatives that involved 64 00:02:50,239 --> 00:02:55,840 modifying access on I-5 at 312th or 65 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,680 324th. 66 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:02,000 In uh 2009, the council chose to shove 67 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,239 the project rather than select a 68 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,920 preferred alternative. 69 00:03:04,239 --> 00:03:12,080 And um that project was reinitiated back 70 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:15,120 in 2017. Um so we redid the traffic 71 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:17,440 analysis. We conducted extensive public 72 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,840 outreach um particularly focused on 73 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:23,120 adjacent neighborhoods and businesses 74 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:26,560 and um had a preliminary review of the 75 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:31,040 environmental impacts and uh we got down 76 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:33,760 into 2019 to having uh the city council 77 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,920 select a preferred alternative which we 78 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:40,239 will describe. 79 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:43,360 Um so overview of the uh where we've 80 00:03:40,239 --> 00:03:46,640 been and where we're heading. Um and uh 81 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:48,239 a couple of key points. Um November of 82 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,879 2022. 83 00:03:48,239 --> 00:03:52,879 Um anytime you're modifying access on an 84 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:55,360 interstate highway, Federal Highway 85 00:03:52,879 --> 00:03:57,439 Administration requires an access 86 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:00,400 revision report 87 00:03:57,439 --> 00:04:03,280 um that can conclude that there safe 88 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:06,720 that um the interchange would function 89 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:09,439 safely. Um and with adequate operations 90 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:13,439 and engineering acceptability 91 00:04:09,439 --> 00:04:16,959 um that was a major milestone for us. Um 92 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:22,479 we then went on to continue that work 93 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:24,960 and received um phase one funding of uh 94 00:04:22,479 --> 00:04:28,720 design and writeway 95 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:31,440 in March of 2023. That was a uh $50 96 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:36,240 million allocation through our lobbying 97 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:39,040 efforts. um and uh proceeded into the 98 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:42,960 environmental process 99 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:46,400 and uh we are in that right now. But um 100 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:50,080 the other major milestone was in 2025 101 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,680 the um the environmental document was 102 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,000 approved by federal highway 103 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:56,000 administration at WASHDOT um in 104 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,800 September under the National 105 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Environmental Policy Act. That's NEPA. 106 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:06,160 Um so um we're continuing into final 107 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:08,479 design and um rideway acquisition 108 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:12,000 for phase one of the work and I'll 109 00:05:08,479 --> 00:05:14,000 describe that a little bit more. Um 110 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,759 we're also looking at how to coordinate 111 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:20,960 this with Sound Transit. Um their 112 00:05:17,759 --> 00:05:24,320 extension of the uh light rail guideway 113 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:27,919 down to the operational operations and 114 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,840 maintenance facility um down on 336 115 00:05:27,919 --> 00:05:34,880 Street. 116 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:36,479 And um and then they will have to um 117 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,520 reconstruct 118 00:05:36,479 --> 00:05:42,320 where the curve at 324th and 23rd Avenue 119 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,080 South um which is proposed to be a 120 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:48,000 roundabout 121 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:51,120 and um then after that we can move into 122 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:54,080 construction depending on whether we can 123 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:57,520 get construction funding um but possibly 124 00:05:54,080 --> 00:06:00,080 as soon as 2028. 125 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:02,800 So, this attempts to outline all the 126 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:06,479 different phases. Um, this is too big a 127 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:10,720 project to be able to fund all at once. 128 00:06:06,479 --> 00:06:13,840 Um, and uh, so phase one consists of 129 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:16,560 constructing the ramps to and from I5 130 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:19,120 southbound to to connect to South 324th 131 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:24,160 Street and then would con construct 132 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:26,400 324th between those ramps and um, and 133 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,240 23rd Avenue South. Is there a pointer 134 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:32,479 here? Oops. 135 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:34,560 I guess not. Okay. Anyway, um maybe I 136 00:06:32,479 --> 00:06:37,280 can do it here. 137 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:40,240 So, this is the southbound ramps. Then 138 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:43,120 we'd be constructing 324th 139 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:47,039 to connect to 23rd Avenue South, 140 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:49,680 continuing to widen 324th existing to 141 00:06:47,039 --> 00:06:53,759 five lanes. And then at the intersection 142 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:55,680 of Highway 99, we'd be constructing um a 143 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:58,319 second left turn lane for northbound and 144 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,840 southbound 99 to accommodate the 145 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:01,440 additional volume that would be using 146 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:03,280 324th. 147 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:06,720 That's phase one and that's what we're 148 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:10,720 working on design. Phase two would 149 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:13,199 eventually extend 324th across I5 to 150 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:16,639 Warehouser Way. 151 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:20,479 Um and then phase 3A 152 00:07:16,639 --> 00:07:22,319 would um reconstruct the bridge over I5 153 00:07:20,479 --> 00:07:27,280 on 320th 154 00:07:22,319 --> 00:07:30,639 and then uh construct HOV lanes 155 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:33,360 um eastward to Military Road. So the 156 00:07:30,639 --> 00:07:36,000 outside lanes of 320th, there'd be two 157 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:39,280 general purpose lanes and and um HOV 158 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:43,039 lanes in each direction from Highway 99 159 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:45,840 to Military Road on 320th. Phase 3B 160 00:07:43,039 --> 00:07:48,639 would then come back and build the the 161 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:52,720 northbound ramps 162 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:56,479 um to and from I5 at 324th and modify 163 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:59,879 the interchange at 320th um to bring up 164 00:07:56,479 --> 00:07:59,879 to current standards. 165 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,960 See, 166 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:11,680 so um this is just a brief overview of 167 00:08:08,319 --> 00:08:15,680 what phase one consists of. Um some of 168 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:18,080 the um individual parcels we're showing 169 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:20,720 here are surface water detention 170 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:23,720 facilities in addition to the roadway 171 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,720 work. 172 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:30,080 So um as I mentioned the environmental 173 00:08:28,479 --> 00:08:32,640 documentation 174 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:35,039 um we have received um washed out 175 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:38,560 approval um under the national 176 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:41,519 environmental policy act. Um so we are 177 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:44,080 now in the process of preparing a 178 00:08:41,519 --> 00:08:46,959 application for the state environmental 179 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:50,000 policy act which typically will just 180 00:08:46,959 --> 00:08:52,160 adopt the national document. Um there's 181 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,399 some additional analysis to meet 182 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:57,839 specific requirements in state 183 00:08:54,399 --> 00:09:00,959 requirements. And then um a third 184 00:08:57,839 --> 00:09:05,120 element is the um hydraulic project 185 00:09:00,959 --> 00:09:10,399 approval um which is uh let's see that 186 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:13,440 was what agency submits those I forget. 187 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:15,760 Anyway it's it's another environmental 188 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:19,431 process that we have to do for um 189 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,431 surface water. [snorts] 190 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:25,760 Is it fisheries? 191 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:28,080 » Yeah fish and wildlife that's it. So um 192 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:30,880 one of the more challenging aspects of 193 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:35,040 this is trying to make this work with a 194 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:38,640 lot of stuff in the way. Um so Sound 195 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:41,920 Transit when they extend the guideway is 196 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:46,399 which is outlined in red here um has to 197 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:48,720 go over where we're going to build 324th 198 00:09:46,399 --> 00:09:54,320 which means they have to raise the the 199 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:57,519 BPA power lines to get under it. Um, and 200 00:09:54,320 --> 00:10:01,200 so where BPA originally proposed to 201 00:09:57,519 --> 00:10:05,440 place the towers for this relocated and 202 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:08,720 raised lines was too close to the Tacoma 203 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:10,240 water line that um runs through the same 204 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:14,079 easement. 205 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:16,880 So um that required them then to place 206 00:10:14,079 --> 00:10:18,800 this particular tower, this is this 207 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:22,480 would be a new tower right in the middle 208 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:26,800 of where 23rd Avenue South is. 209 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:29,839 So, um, working with, uh, BPA and Sound 210 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:35,040 Transit, we developed an alignment that 211 00:10:29,839 --> 00:10:39,040 would reign 23rd and 324th. So, the good 212 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:40,320 news with this is um that basically 213 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,399 Sound Transit is going to build this 214 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:45,519 roundabout for us. 215 00:10:42,399 --> 00:10:50,000 They will also do some rough grading to 216 00:10:45,519 --> 00:10:52,720 take care of um this covert that was um 217 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:56,560 that would feed into the Hilabos. 218 00:10:52,720 --> 00:11:00,000 Um the downside of that is that between 219 00:10:56,560 --> 00:11:02,640 the tower construction and sound transit 220 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:05,200 realigning the roadway, 221 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:08,880 23rd and 324th will be closed for 222 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:12,480 roughly a year and a half. 223 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:14,800 Um, so we have some mitigation proposed 224 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:18,079 for that with the traffic signal at um, 225 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:22,360 Highway 99 and 320th. Um, it's not going 226 00:11:18,079 --> 00:11:22,360 to solve it, but it'll make it better. 227 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,839 Come on. 228 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:37,360 Why aren't you advancing? There we go. 229 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,880 So, um 230 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:43,040 there's some rightaway acquisition 231 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:45,680 involved in this obviously. Um and um so 232 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,680 the green outlines what the city would 233 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:52,000 be acquiring. 234 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:54,880 The orange um is would be easements that 235 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:57,040 would be mostly for surface water uh 236 00:11:54,880 --> 00:12:01,839 facilities. 237 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:05,279 And um the existing 320th park and ride 238 00:12:01,839 --> 00:12:08,240 um portions of that will be basically 239 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:10,639 looks like given to us by the state as 240 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:15,600 long as it's used for rightway purposes 241 00:12:10,639 --> 00:12:18,160 which this would qualify for. Um and um 242 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:21,040 so and then the other property that is 243 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:24,920 not already publicly owned um would be 244 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,920 acquired by Sound Transit. 245 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,839 One of the other interesting things is 246 00:12:29,839 --> 00:12:33,440 uh we have some fish barriers to deal 247 00:12:31,839 --> 00:12:37,680 with 248 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:39,680 um for this creek. Um right now um 249 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:42,560 coming off the bog on the east side of 250 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:44,079 the freeway. Um there's an existing 251 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:47,440 culvert 252 00:12:44,079 --> 00:12:49,279 and uh at this point here is another 253 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,600 fish barrier and then it goes into 254 00:12:49,279 --> 00:12:53,680 another culvert and then down comes out 255 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:57,760 into Bmore. 256 00:12:53,680 --> 00:13:00,000 Um, so the original design we had, um, 257 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,560 and WASHDOT was originally supposed to 258 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:07,680 do this one and they decided to defer 259 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:10,160 it. Um but uh this would be a new covert 260 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:14,480 underneath I5 261 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:16,320 and um then um exposing as much as 262 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:21,040 possible 263 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:23,680 um the um surface drainage um to uh 264 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:26,800 provide adequate habitat 265 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:28,720 for uh migrating salmon. then go through 266 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:32,720 another culvert 267 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:34,480 underneath the um extension of 324th 268 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:38,000 which would be rough graded by Sound 269 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:41,200 Transit to this point. Um little bit of 270 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:44,240 um open drainage here and then 271 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:47,360 underneath another culvert to this um 272 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:51,839 roadway within Belmore and then outfall 273 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:54,639 here. Um, another alternative that would 274 00:13:51,839 --> 00:13:58,639 be less expensive and easier to 275 00:13:54,639 --> 00:14:02,560 construct would be to have um a shorter 276 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:06,720 cover under I-5. And rather than having 277 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:08,720 walls in a 30-ft deep cut here to um 278 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:13,360 basically grade it so that it's sloped 279 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:16,959 back, it does take up more room. Um and 280 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:20,360 uh but it would be um 281 00:14:16,959 --> 00:14:20,360 better environmentally 282 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:27,600 and uh let's see what else. 283 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:31,600 So, one of the other aspects of this is 284 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:35,040 um what to do with what would be unused 285 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:37,760 parts of um the park and ride, the 286 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,440 existing park and ride. One potential 287 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,560 idea 288 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:44,959 um if it's used for rightaway purposes, 289 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:47,600 washdout's willing to give it to us. Any 290 00:14:44,959 --> 00:14:50,560 other portion that we would want to use 291 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:54,160 for any purpose, potentially we'd have 292 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:56,800 to pay them for it. Um but that might be 293 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:59,040 an opportunity for some other type of 294 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:02,880 open space to be used in the city 295 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:05,600 center. Um and so the only downside with 296 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:08,800 that is if we're using that 297 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:10,959 um it becomes a type of property that 298 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,480 once it becomes park it has to stay 299 00:15:10,959 --> 00:15:14,399 park. 300 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:17,279 So there will need to be some 301 00:15:14,399 --> 00:15:19,680 discussions in the future about do we 302 00:15:17,279 --> 00:15:22,680 want to use that property and if so what 303 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,680 for. 304 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,000 Oops. 305 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:35,120 So, um, as I mentioned, one of the 306 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:37,519 options here, um, would be the, um, not 307 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:40,639 having a bunch of walls, but rather 308 00:15:37,519 --> 00:15:42,959 just, um, sloped property. It'd be a 309 00:15:40,639 --> 00:15:46,079 little bit more open and probably more 310 00:15:42,959 --> 00:15:48,720 pleasant to look at, um, from aesthetic 311 00:15:46,079 --> 00:15:51,720 purpose. 312 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,720 And 313 00:15:52,000 --> 00:16:00,720 So this is what the schedule looks like. 314 00:15:56,639 --> 00:16:02,240 So um one of the aspects that we're 315 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:05,360 working on right now. So we had the 316 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:09,120 access revision report approved that is 317 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:12,079 for the entire project all phases. Um 318 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:15,279 but now we have to update that to be 319 00:16:12,079 --> 00:16:18,399 specific for phase one. And so that work 320 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:21,680 will continue through most of 2026. 321 00:16:18,399 --> 00:16:23,279 Um and uh obviously we have to 322 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,880 coordinate that with Washington State 323 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:28,800 DOT. 324 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:32,000 Um we'll be in preliminary design um 325 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:35,040 through the first quarter of 26. 326 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:37,040 Um we will um there's also a 327 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:40,079 channelization plan approval that 328 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:43,519 WASHDOT needs to approve um for any 329 00:16:40,079 --> 00:16:46,959 changes in how the roadway functions 330 00:16:43,519 --> 00:16:49,360 both I5 and Highway 99. 331 00:16:46,959 --> 00:16:52,480 um value engineering then rightaway 332 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:57,839 acquisition would start after that first 333 00:16:52,480 --> 00:17:00,079 quarter and into and through 2027. 334 00:16:57,839 --> 00:17:02,880 Um, one of the interesting things with 335 00:17:00,079 --> 00:17:05,120 the environmental process is um, we 336 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,839 started off assuming a higher level of 337 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:12,799 analysis would be required and that 338 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:14,880 downgraded um, last year and uh, so it 339 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:16,480 required less but it also required us to 340 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,880 pivot on what we had to include in that 341 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:23,839 environmental documentation. 342 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:27,199 Um so um but that part is now done and 343 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:30,080 uh so sea is the remaining portion that 344 00:17:27,199 --> 00:17:33,280 we need to work on on environmental 345 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:38,320 and uh coordination with sound transit 346 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:42,640 and BPA is ongoing and um the proposed 347 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:45,679 closure would start in early 2027 348 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:49,600 for um 23rd and 324th 349 00:17:45,679 --> 00:17:52,559 and um and as soon as um BPA's work is 350 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:58,200 done then sound transit would start in 351 00:17:52,559 --> 00:17:58,200 mid 2027 and take about a year for that. 352 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,480 So so 353 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,960 that concludes the presentation and I'm 354 00:18:03,919 --> 00:18:06,160 happy to answer any [clears throat] 355 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,720 questions. 356 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,720 » McDaniel. 357 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,679 » Yeah. Um going back to the closing down 358 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,400 you said it's going to be about a year 359 00:18:09,679 --> 00:18:10,880 and a half. 360 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,520 » Yes. 361 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,120 » Is it the how much of that road are we 362 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,799 looking at shutting down since there's a 363 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:18,640 lot I mean how do you get to Belmont if 364 00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:20,320 you shut that down? Right. So, Belmore 365 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,080 would still have access. We would 366 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,799 preserve that, but basically it'll be 367 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,880 down to one lane 368 00:18:24,799 --> 00:18:28,240 » Um each direction from Belmore's 369 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,960 driveway to the west. 370 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,280 » Gotcha. 371 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:34,400 » And then we'll also be providing um 372 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:36,000 temporary pedestrian access across that 373 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,919 so that they can go to the mall. 374 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,440 » And then what about the up towards close 375 00:18:37,919 --> 00:18:40,799 to the specific high road? We have those 376 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,480 buildings and those rest 377 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:43,919 » Those will still have full access. 378 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,679 » Okay. So, what at what point does it go 379 00:18:43,919 --> 00:18:48,799 down to that one one strip to get down 380 00:18:45,679 --> 00:18:52,400 there? That driveway that's um about 381 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:53,679 halfway between Belmore and 17th Avenue 382 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,000 » Is the one for the mall. 383 00:18:53,679 --> 00:18:55,039 » Yes. 384 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,799 » Okay. That one. Gotcha. 385 00:18:55,039 --> 00:18:57,120 » Yeah. That's where it'll narrow down. 386 00:18:56,799 --> 00:19:00,000 » Okay. 387 00:18:57,120 --> 00:19:00,640 » And then on the north side at at 32nd. 388 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,160 So 389 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,640 » The south leg of the intersection would 390 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,400 be closed. 391 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,919 » Gotcha. And then my second question is I 392 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,760 believe those are for salmon then those 393 00:19:05,919 --> 00:19:10,000 that design you were showing us with 394 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:12,320 either slope to cement walls and stuff. 395 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,559 Um, does that have water in it 396 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:18,480 consistently or is that only when we 397 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:19,600 have uh enough uh I I guess water to 398 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,280 fill that up? Is that going to be 399 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,720 consistently filled or is it only be 400 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,360 like seasonal? 401 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:27,280 » I believe that's a seasonal drainage. 402 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:28,720 » Okay, that was my other question. Thank 403 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,240 you, 404 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:34,160 » Council President. Coach Mark, 405 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:36,320 » Um Rick, so on the dip, are we still 406 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,919 going to do the dip or what about that? 407 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,480 Um 408 00:19:37,919 --> 00:19:43,200 that's up to the council really. Um 409 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:47,440 we've done the we've done the analysis. 410 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:49,440 Um it's not cheap and uh nothing has 411 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,720 been budgeted for it at this point. 412 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,400 » We're council president. We're looking 413 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,160 at it. We're kind of there there are 414 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,160 different I' I've had community 415 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,400 development and public works and Brian, 416 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:01,440 we've talked about this. I'm I'm trying 417 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:04,240 to get it uh ready uh for a council 418 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:06,160 discussion, but it's not quite ready. So 419 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,080 it would assume I would assume we'd want 420 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,000 to do it at the same time as this if if 421 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,919 we were going to do it. 422 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,640 » Well, I I think we need to figure out 423 00:20:11,919 --> 00:20:16,880 with I mean I we can have a you know 424 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:19,520 more of a presentation regard regarding 425 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,520 the dip. It's about how you know how 426 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,799 comprehensive is this? How much of an 427 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,559 appetite do we have? What would be the 428 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:26,160 funding for it? I think that we're 429 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:27,440 trying to figure that out. 430 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,919 » It sure 431 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,080 » Yeah. 432 00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:32,960 » Yeah. It seems like we'd want to do it 433 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:35,600 not at the same time since there will be 434 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:38,640 considerably more traffic on 324th 435 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:41,280 during during this process and so we'd 436 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,720 want to make 324th as as clear as 437 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,799 possible 438 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,080 » During that during that time. So it 439 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:47,200 seems like the dip should either be 440 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,520 before or after. 441 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,960 » Yeah. 442 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,880 » Rather than. 443 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:53,280 » Council member Had. 444 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:57,200 » Thank you. So what is the total cost for 445 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:58,960 the entire project all phases of it? Um, 446 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,440 last time we updated the estimate, it 447 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:05,280 was about 550 million. 448 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:07,520 » And what is the length of time that if 449 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:11,240 you got all the money that it would take 450 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,240 to to build it? 451 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:15,200 » I [clears throat] can't recall off the 452 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,679 top of my head. Um, but we can certainly 453 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,720 look 454 00:21:15,679 --> 00:21:18,320 » 15 years. 455 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,000 » Yeah, it would take a while. I mean, 456 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,880 every every phase is going to be three 457 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:25,919 to five years. 458 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:29,120 » Okay. council. 459 00:21:25,919 --> 00:21:33,360 » Yeah. Um this project which is very well 460 00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:35,919 needed and we also have the highway 18 461 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:38,720 flyways and overpasses and you just 462 00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:41,840 threw out 500 to 600 million among 463 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,840 friends. What's the impact on the other 464 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,840 project that hasn't been done and we're 465 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,960 trying to fund also 466 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,960 » Cuz 467 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,039 » I know they're different projects but 468 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,000 you're competing for the same pot of 469 00:21:51,039 --> 00:21:54,640 money, right? 470 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,080 » Yes. We in both cases our primary 471 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,559 funding source would be through the 472 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,039 state. 473 00:21:56,559 --> 00:22:00,640 » Yeah. 474 00:21:57,039 --> 00:22:02,720 » So um yeah it's a matter of 475 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:05,120 council direction to provide which what 476 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:09,120 what the priority needs to be. So 477 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:12,720 » Um you know right now um the triangle 478 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:16,000 project on highway 18 is um not even 479 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:18,000 funded out to 2035. 480 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,919 But so together are you talking a 481 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,240 billion dollars 482 00:22:19,919 --> 00:22:22,080 » Um 483 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,640 » Or 800 million or where do you think 484 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,400 that all 485 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,760 » I think the remaining phases of the 486 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:29,200 triangle are about 250 300 somewhere in 487 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,039 there right now. 488 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,640 » So I mean the only reason I'm asking the 489 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:34,400 question shouldn't we try to finish one 490 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,280 first before we start the other or do 491 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:40,400 you have two of them half built or I 492 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,840 mean they're both important but if we're 493 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,480 going to push for something should we 494 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,240 push for one we can get done sooner? 495 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,520 Well, 496 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:52,480 I I would offer this right now at at 497 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:55,520 Highway 18. The big challenge is the 498 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:59,039 merge with I-5 southbound 499 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:04,080 um from the flyover. And so that's going 500 00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:06,640 to be some improvements that um 501 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:09,360 will require coordination with actually 502 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:12,000 the gateway project, the 167 extension. 503 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:14,720 The other one is the northbound 504 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:17,919 um northbound off-ramp from I5 to 505 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,600 eastbound 18 um which the trucking 506 00:23:17,919 --> 00:23:23,679 industry is pushing really hard in the 507 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:26,480 ports um to get that constructed. And so 508 00:23:23,679 --> 00:23:29,360 that's that was in the next phase that 509 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:32,799 was proposed for the triangle project. 510 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:34,816 And um that's about a if I recall 511 00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:35,471 correctly an $80 million project. 512 00:23:34,816 --> 00:23:37,491 [clears throat] 513 00:23:35,471 --> 00:23:37,491 [snorts] 514 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,960 So, I mean, you could bounce back and 515 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:45,919 forth is is, you know, fix the worst 516 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:48,000 first and then go do another phase of 517 00:23:45,919 --> 00:23:51,120 another project if you had to because 518 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:54,159 yeah, we're not going to get, you know, 519 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:56,320 $750 million all at once. 520 00:23:54,159 --> 00:23:57,280 » Okay. Thank you, 521 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,679 » Council President. You have another 522 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,159 comment? 523 00:23:57,679 --> 00:24:02,559 » I I do. I have two more. So when we 524 00:24:00,159 --> 00:24:05,919 raise the power lines, uh I assume 525 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:08,000 that's on the vulnerable power and yes, 526 00:24:05,919 --> 00:24:09,919 Sound Transit would pay for that. So do 527 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,400 we then lose power to the neighboring 528 00:24:09,919 --> 00:24:14,559 businesses for a period of time or 529 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,919 » Um No. So they that's one of the things 530 00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:19,679 that's critical about when they schedule 531 00:24:17,919 --> 00:24:21,520 they they're going to do that at a time 532 00:24:19,679 --> 00:24:23,600 when power consumption is lowest and 533 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,960 they can reroute to other parts of the 534 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,279 network of the grid. 535 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:31,440 » So it it wouldn't be a long period of 536 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:33,039 time then. No, it well so the actual 537 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:36,720 construction 538 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:38,480 is will take a few months but the time 539 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,480 that they would actually be shutting off 540 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,937 the power is only when they're moving 541 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,592 the lines to the new towers. 542 00:24:42,937 --> 00:24:43,840 [cough] 543 00:24:43,592 --> 00:24:45,919 [clears throat] 544 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,600 » Also, weren't we talking about a trail 545 00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:49,520 system at one point? 546 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:53,360 » Yes, that is a part of the project that 547 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:55,039 I should have mentioned. So, um, 548 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:58,720 you know, we've talked about extending 549 00:24:55,039 --> 00:25:00,720 the BPA trail, um, across I5, and this 550 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,840 project would include that. So, there'd 551 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,440 be a shared use path on 324th. 552 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,120 And actually, we've got a separate 553 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,600 project that we're going to be starting 554 00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:13,200 design on pretty soon to take that from 555 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:16,159 Highway 99 to where the roundabout is or 556 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:18,240 going to be at 23rd and 324th and then 557 00:25:16,159 --> 00:25:20,159 up the west side of 23rd to connect to 558 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,039 the light rail station. 559 00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:26,799 So, um, but then when we construct phase 560 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:28,400 two and get, um, 324th extended across 561 00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:31,120 I5, 562 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,760 that will get us over to Warehouser Way. 563 00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:36,720 And then, um, people would be able to go 564 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:39,039 up 32nd Avenue South. And at some future 565 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:43,480 point, we'll extend a BPA trail east 566 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:43,480 from 32nd out to 51st. 567 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:50,880 » Yeah, it'd be really interesting to see 568 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:53,679 a a diagram of better. 569 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,360 Thank you. I just walked all over New 570 00:25:53,679 --> 00:25:57,679 York. 571 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:59,520 » My feet are still sore. I'm wondering 572 00:25:57,679 --> 00:26:01,440 how that would work with people wanting 573 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,720 to walk. 574 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,480 » Thanks. 575 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,080 » Okay. Council, any other questions for 576 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,200 Rick? 577 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,400 » All right. Thank you very much. 578 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,400 Appreciate it. 579 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,200 » Okay. Um, having no other business uh 580 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,360 for the special study session, uh, we 581 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,360 will be adjourned until our 6:30 regular 582 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:18,360 meeting.