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live vicariously

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» I'll tell you But

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you guys,

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» go ahead.

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» Mr. Tucker

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looking good.

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>> Recording in progress.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Clearance.

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>> All right. Welcome everyone. It's now

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6:31 p.m. I'd like to call to order the

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Fenton Township board meeting on this

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Tuesday, the 15th day of September,

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2026. I would ask everyone to please

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stand for the opening prayer and the

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pledge of allegiance. Trusty Go, will

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you lead us?

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>> Yes, sir. Thank you.

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Heavenly Father, bless us as we gather

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here tonight. We ask you guide us in our

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conversations.

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Remove all distractions from our minds

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so that we may have clear communication

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and understanding with one another.

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Continue to look over our community and

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country. Help us to remember the reason

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we are here tonight, which is to serve

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our fellow man and community.

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Continue to bless us and our country in

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your most holy name. Amen.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» As always, Mark. Thanks. Clerk Krug,

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please call the role.

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>> Yes. Lorraine,

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>> present.

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>> Reed

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>> here.

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>> Clark

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>> here.

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Pug is present. Kesler

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>> Gopal

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>> here.

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>> Tucker

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>> present.

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>> You have a full board.

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>> All right. Thanks. I'd also like to know

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for the record that our township

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attorney Jack Belzer, our operations

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manager, Tom Broker, our zoning

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administrator, Mike Dee, our fire chief,

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Ryan Boltz, and our assistant manager,

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Megan Gito, are present this evening.

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Julia, I thought she was going to be

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here this No, she's not.

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>> Oh, she would not be here. All right.

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Uh, additionally, the following uh,

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township officials are present via Zoom.

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Melissa Lawrence. Tom, will you detail

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the procedures for those attending

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tonight's virtual meeting?

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>> Yes. To members of the public attending

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tonight's meeting in person or via Zoom,

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please be advised the meeting is being

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recorded to be shown on public access TV

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on Spectrum channel 191. Recorded

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meetings are also posted on the Fenton

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channel. For those attending via Zoom,

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we ask that you keep your microphone

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muted. until we reach portions of the

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meeting where public comment is allowed.

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For tonight's meeting, there are two

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public hearings, one for the Stony Brook

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2 street lighting special assessment and

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one for the 2026 fire protection special

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assessment, both of which will include

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public comment. All other public comment

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will be taken near the end of the

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meeting. Meeting materials are available

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for download on the township's website

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at bettownship.org.

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>> Thanks, Tom. All right, moving on to the

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first business order is the approval of

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the agenda. Are there any requests

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tonight to amend tonight's agenda?

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Hearing none. A motion is in order to

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approve the agenda as presented.

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>> A motion to approve.

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>> All right. Motion's been moved and

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seconded. Any further discussion?

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Hearing none. Cler Kirby, you please

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call the role.

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>> I vote yes. Clark,

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>> Kesler,

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>> yes.

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>> Reed,

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>> yes.

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>> Gopal,

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>> yes.

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>> Rain,

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>> Motion passes.

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>> Agenda stands approved as presented.

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Moving on to meeting minutes. Included

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in the packet are the meeting minutes

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from the September 1st regular meeting.

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Are there any corrections or requested

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revisions to these meeting minutes?

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Hearing none, the meeting minutes stand

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approved as presented. Next business

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order is expenditures. Are there any

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questions from the board regarding any

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of the invoices?

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Hearing none, I will entertain a motion

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regarding the payment of expenditures

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totaling 920,444.32

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cents for payment. Make a motion to

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expand to approve expenditures in amount

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900,440.

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>> 44432.

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>> 4432 as presented.

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>> Second.

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>> All right. Motion's been moved and

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seconded. Any further discussion?

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>> Hearing none. Cler crew, will you please

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call the role?

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>> yes.

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>> Gopal,

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>> yes.

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>> yes.

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>> Kesler,

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>> I vote yes. Clark,

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>> Motion passes

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>> and the expenditure stand approved as

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presented. As Tom said, we're next

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business order is public hearings. We

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have two of them tonight. The first one

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is Stonybrook 2 street lighting special

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assessment district and this is the

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hearing on special assessment role.

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Operations manager Brooke will you?

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>> Yes. As requested by a petition of

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property owners in phase two of Stony

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Brook uh the township board adopted

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resolution at the August 18th meeting to

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create the special assessment district

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to pay for the installation and ongoing

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maintenance of 11 street lightss in that

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section of the development. The second

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resolution was adopted at that meeting

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and scheduled the public hearing for

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tonight's meeting to receive comment on

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the proposed role. Estimated cost of the

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project is $2530

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for street light installation, $1,540

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per year for operation and maintenance

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of the lights plus administrative costs.

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Special assessment role includes a per

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partial assessment of $16.19

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for 2026, which includes the cost of the

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cost of installation recovery township

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administrative costs and estimated

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$24.84 per year beginning in 2027.

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reviews and adjusts all street special

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assessments annually as needed.

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>> All right. Thanks, Tom. Okay. The board

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will now accept public comment on the

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following. An individual's assessment in

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relation to the benefit received, the

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total cost of the project, and the

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validity of the proceedings to date.

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Tom, do we have any written comments?

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>> None.

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>> All right. I will now open up the

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meeting for public comment on the

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proposed PUB zoning amendment. Oh, yeah.

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All right. Is there anyone here tonight

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that would like to talk about the street

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um special assessment for the street

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lighting for Stony Brook?

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Hearing none, I'll go to Zoom. Is there

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anyone on Zoom that would like to

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address the board again only on the

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Stony Brook 2 street lighting special

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assessment?

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If so, mute or raise your hand or unmute

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and raise your hand.

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All right, hearing done. I will now

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close the public hearing. Are there any

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questions or comments from the board?

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>> Only question I have, they took I'm

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assuming I'm a light pollution

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guy. I don't want to I don't believe I

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don't like street lights much, but I

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believe these fixtures are capped at the

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top. Is that

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>> They are correct. They they're they're

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kind of foursided

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downward pointing

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>> because it didn't it talked about the

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source of illumination and the number

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and the location,

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>> but it didn't So I'm just verifying what

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I believe to be true is that these are

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sensitive to that particular issue that

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the light is constrained in a downward

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>> Yes, they are. We have the same type in

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our neighborhood have for 30 some years.

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But it it just to me it gives off enough light where it's it's safe, but

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it's it's not something that's blinding

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that you have to close your your drapes

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because it's going to keep you awake at

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>> Can you see the star?

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>> Wow. Yeah, they're supposed to be highly

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efficient, which they are, and

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environmental friendly. So, both the

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eyes and all the rest. So, all right.

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Any other comments or questions from the

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board? Hearing none. Resolution number

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2026-23. Clerk Crew, will you please

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present the resolution?

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>> Yes. It confirms special assessment role

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as submitted as the assessment role for

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Stonybrook 2 street lighting special

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assessment district establishes

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annual installments in the role each

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payable on December 1st and due

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at the end of February assigns or assess

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or assigns a 1% per month penalty. leave

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for late payments. Directs the clerk to

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deliver the special assessment role with

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warrant attached to the treasurer.

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Directs the treasurer to collect the

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special assessment. Repeals any

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conflicting resolutions. I'll move the

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resolution.

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>> Second.

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>> All right. Motion's been moved and

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seconded. Any further discussion?

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Hearing none, clerk, will you please

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call the role?

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>> Yes. Clark,

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>> Kesler,

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>> yes. I vote yes. Gwolf,

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>> Rain,

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>> Resolution passes.

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>> All right. Uh, this is the second one.

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Uh, this is under public hearings. This

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is the Fenton Township Fire Protection

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Special Assessment District. This is the

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2026 special assessment role. This is a

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public hearing on the 2026 Fenton

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Township Fire Protection Special

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Assessment Role. The assessment per

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property remains at 65. We did uh I did

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have the chief come tonight to just kind

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of discuss it briefly. Um you want to

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give just a little history.

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» I think it's been 30 years.

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>> This is the 30th year.

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>> 30th year at $65.

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Um for fire public safety for a

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community, it's pretty cheap service. Um

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our department's NFPA compliant. I mean,

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all of our equipment is brand new. Um,

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we're very very careful how we spend our

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money. Um, just I think it just shows

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that you don't have to have a ton of

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money in a in a kitty to say, "Well, I

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want to buy this or I can have this or

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whatever." I think we're very um

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fortunate to have uh the fire fund to

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begin with and we take advantage of it

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um by spending it wisely.

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>> Thanks, Chief. Appreciate it. And it

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also speaks to

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uh the chief that manages the

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department, too. So you've always made

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sure that in the budget with town that

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there's money there for future for

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trucks we're going to need. Uh so again

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always looking for out for the township.

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So

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>> and our new tanker will be here in a

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couple weeks. So

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be the last of the trucks for a minute.

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>> All right. Thanks, Chief. Yep.

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>> All right.

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>> I have a question before we go here. Not

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from you, Chief. Just procedurally.

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The agenda didn't have this item on it.

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I unless I'm missing something here. Do

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we need to amend the agenda to add it in

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postumously?

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>> It was in mine.

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>> It's under public hearing.

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» Okay. I stand correct.

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>> Okay.

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>> Got it.

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>> Not a problem. All right. I'll now open

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up the meeting for public comment on the

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Fenton Township Fire Protection Special

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Assessment District. This is again the

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2020 2026 special assessment role. Is

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there anyone here attending that would

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like to address the board?

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Hearing none, I'll move on to Zoom. Is

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there anyone address uh attending via

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Zoom that would like to address the

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board? Again, just on the Fenton

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Township Fire Protection Special

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Assessment.

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Okay. Hearing none, I will now close the

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public hearing. Are there any questions

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or comments from the board?

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>> I think it's commendable that this is

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year 30 and we've stayed at the same

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amount and offer amazing protection for

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our residents.

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>> We sure do.

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>> Commendable

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>> well-managed department. We are also,

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you know, and chief and I go to the 911

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meetings. Our uh trusty goal goes there.

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We, you know, I look at other

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municipalities. They're having problems.

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No one financially, but we we we do

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things the right way. It's well managed.

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Uh we have the equipment that we need to

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protect our citizens and our residents

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and uh I'm very proud to stand next to

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them when when I'm there. So doing a

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great job.

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[snorts]

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Any other questions or comments? Okay.

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Resolution number 2026-24. Clerk Crew,

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will you please present the resolution?

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>> Yes. Confirmed specialist says roll

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number 2026-05

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as the 2026 Fenton Township fire

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protection spec

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establish a payable date of December 1st

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2026

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and it's due date of March 1st 2027

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assessing a 1% per month penalty on late

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installments directs the clerk to

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deliver the special assessment role with

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warrant attached to the treasur directs

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the treasur to collect special

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assessment repeals any conflicting

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resolutions I'll move the resolution

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>> second

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>> all right motion's been moved and

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seconded any further discussion clerk

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crew will you please call the role

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>> yes

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>> Tucker

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>> yes

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>> Clark

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>> yes

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>> I vote yes

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>> yes

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>> Kesler

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>> yes

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>> resol Resolution passes.

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>> All right. Uh, moving on to the next

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business orders reports. Are there any

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committee reports to be made to the

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board this evening?

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Hearing none, we'll move on to

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communications. We have none this

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evening. Adoption of ordinances. We have

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none this evening. Unfinished business.

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None this evening. We will move on to

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new business. This is the proposed new

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hire for the fire department. We have

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our chief here tonight to introduce our

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new member.

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>> Get my laps in. Again, I'm pleased to

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announce that we have another applicant

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um trained fire one and two um has his

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uh he went through the uh academy at

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GISD. Um I think we're in our third year

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now of having the academy there. So um

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our our kids in school can uh in between

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11th and 12th grade grade become fire

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one and two certified. Um it's this is

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our first student we've received from

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it. He actually lives across from fire

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station 2. Um his name is Houston

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Whitner. Um he's a resident and uh he

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will be a good fit down station too. He

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made his first training last night and

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he got to ride on the ladder truck. So I

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think we hooked him.

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>> Thanks, Chief. Any questions or comments

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from the board?

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>> He is present this evening. I

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>> he is. I'd like to swear him in if we

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could right now. M

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>> I got to we got to we got after after we

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vote. Okay, I'll entertain a motion

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regarding the hiring of Houston Whitner

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>> Whitner.

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Sorry about that.

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>> Okay.

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>> As a member of the Fenton Township Fire

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Department as recommended by Fire Chief

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Folultz.

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>> Second.

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>> All right. Motion's been moved and

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seconded. Any further discussion?

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>> Clerk Crew, will you please call the

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role?

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>> Kesler,

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>> yes.

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>> I vote yes. Reed,

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>> yes.

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>> Lorraine,

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>> yes.

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>> Clark,

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>> yes.

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>> Tucker,

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>> yes.

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>> Gopal,

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>> yes.

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>> Motion passes. And now you can swear in

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Mr. Whitner.

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>> Tomute

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the duties of firefighters.

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respected dedication and hold.

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Congratulations, [applause]

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Mr. Whitner. Welcome to the Fenton

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Township Fire Department, the best

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township in the state of Michigan.

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>> All right, moving on to the next

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business. Next under new business,

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resolution number 2026-25. This is the

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street. Oh, no, it's not.

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>> Stony.

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>> All right.

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Uh resolution number 2026-25 street

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lighting for Stonybrook phase 2. Tom,

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will you

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>> Yes. So with the confirmation of the

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special assessment role, now we need to

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update our contract with consumers to

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add those lights under the township's

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contract. So, what you have here is an

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authorization for change form um which

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includes the amount that that we would

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pay to have the lights installed which

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is added into the assessment and a

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resolution authorizing the clerk or

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treasurer to approve that authorization

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for change.

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>> All right. Thanks, Tom. Any questions or

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comments from the board?

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All right. Hearing none, resolution

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number 2026-25.

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Cler, will you please present the

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resolution?

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deems it advisable to authorize

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Consumers Energy to make a change in the

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street lighting contract to add lights

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for Stonybrook to special assessment

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district. Authorizes the supervisor or

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clerk to execute the required

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authorization for change

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uh change documents. I'll move the

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resolution.

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>> Second.

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>> All right. Motion's been moved and

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second. Any further discussion hearing?

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None. Clerk K, you please call the role.

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>> Tucker,

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>> yes.

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>> Lraine,

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>> yes.

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>> Gopal,

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>> yes.

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>> Kesler,

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>> yes.

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>> Reed,

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>> yes.

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>> Clark,

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>> yes. [clears throat]

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>> I vote, yes. Resolution passes.

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>> All right. Next to business, proposed

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software platform upgrade. This is uh

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first part of two. This is BSNA cloud.

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Um just to give a little narrative. Um,

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[clears throat]

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as you know, the board over the last six

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years has made a lot of changes here at

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the township. Made us very efficient.

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Everything from upgrading our file

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server to our social media. Um and over

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the last well it's probably been a lot

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more than a couple of years but we have

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a lot some inefficiencies

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uh with the software that we have and

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it's caused a conflict between our I

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think a little bit of a conflict between

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our IT and our BSNA software provider uh

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because if something went wrong they

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would blame it on IT would blame it on

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BSNA. Long story short, uh it was one of

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the first things I gave a full assign to

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Megan, uh our assistant manager. She did

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an amazing job. Um she met with

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everybody, department heads, went over

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everything, and I'm going to let her

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take it from here.

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>> Okay.

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>> Thank you, Megan.

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>> Thank you. Um so we currently operate on

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bsna.net,

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um which will only be supported until

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about 55 to 60% of their current users

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are live on cloud. Um so currently that

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amount that are on that are in the

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process of implementation are about 42%.

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Um in Jennese County 17 municipalities

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have signed on to cloud 11 are currently

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live and six are awaiting

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implementation. Um those include the

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cities of Fenton and Lynden. Lyndon's

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been live for about a year. I have

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spoken to their clerk. She said there

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their um transition was completely se

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seamless. Everything went well. Um and

564
00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:24,160
the city of Fenton's been on since July.

565
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,880
Um so once that supports discontinued,

566
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,120
migration to the cloud is going to be

567
00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:31,520
inevitable. Um and BSNA is predicting

568
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,400
that that'll be mid to late 2027.

569
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,679
Um and the price increase for the cloud

570
00:20:37,679 --> 00:20:39,760
has increased about 10% a year since

571
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:40,960
they've introduced the cloud

572
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,080
programming. Um so if we sign an

573
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,559
agreement now we can lock in the 2026

574
00:20:46,559 --> 00:20:50,240
pricing while implementating it in um

575
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,480
2027 which prices increase January 1. Um

576
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,000
that also give us more control in our

577
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,840
time frame on when we can make the

578
00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,880
migration occur. Um because as of right

579
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,919
now it's a seven to nine month process

580
00:21:03,919 --> 00:21:06,080
um if we migrate as of right now. But if

581
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:11,440
we wait and when the um

582
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,919
when it it's not supported any longer

583
00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:18,559
it's more like 12 to 18 months. Um so I

584
00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:20,880
did speak to each department head. had

585
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,080
them actually attend the meeting with

586
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,400
BSNA to make sure all their needs were

587
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,840
addressed. Um, and the staff agrees

588
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,000
unanimously that this upgrade would be

589
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,400
beneficial to audit office productivity

590
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,120
um, and services to the residents, too.

591
00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:37,280
So, Julia Wilson, who isn't obviously

592
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,200
here tonight, um, she actually attended

593
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,520
a BSNA uh, road show about cloud um, and

594
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,960
she said that would solve a lot of her

595
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,039
problems when it comes to assessing

596
00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:50,159
because as of right now, both building

597
00:21:50,159 --> 00:21:53,120
assessing have separate drives that they

598
00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:56,000
have to store all of their documents in.

599
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,480
Um there's a lot of historical data for

600
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,720
both of those departments and and they

601
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,159
have to accept they can't put it in the

602
00:22:04,159 --> 00:22:06,400
net platform or everything it just can't

603
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,080
hold it. Um so this would reduce our our

604
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,320
calls to it for crashing programs um and

605
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,760
you know error messages with routine

606
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,960
tasks like making letters um

607
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,520
you know uh for example the building

608
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,080
department sends expired permit letters.

609
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,000
It should be weekly task but this has

610
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,320
been an issue ongoing that they can't

611
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,640
get these letters to generate. So we

612
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,720
have open permits that have continuously

613
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,760
just been an issue. um that we could you

614
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,960
know get these expired permits resolved

615
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,960
um if we moved on to cloud that would be

616
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,799
resolved as well. So there wouldn't be

617
00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:50,159
the storage issues. Um you know right

618
00:22:50,159 --> 00:22:52,640
now if we have on premises hardware that

619
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,159
fails we would have to spend a

620
00:22:54,159 --> 00:22:56,080
considerable amount of money to upgrade

621
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,080
servers and things like that to hold all

622
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,360
the data. Um with cloud it's all housed

623
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:03,520
in Microsoft data centers and these

624
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,000
tasks are automatically managed. server

625
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,760
maintenance uh wouldn't be an issue

626
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,919
anymore. Uh there's no need for manual

627
00:23:09,919 --> 00:23:11,919
backups. The data is backed up every 15

628
00:23:11,919 --> 00:23:14,480
minutes um to a facility in Virginia and

629
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,080
then there's a redundant facility in

630
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,320
Arizona in case there's any failure. So

631
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,320
double backups, our data is safe. Um and

632
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,159
currently backups are done about every

633
00:23:24,159 --> 00:23:27,679
15 days. So days to minutes difference

634
00:23:27,679 --> 00:23:30,400
there. Um and then there's many features

635
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,919
that can streamline work for each

636
00:23:31,919 --> 00:23:33,440
department. There's the abilities to set

637
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,520
up recurring workflows. um routine tasks

638
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,760
can become automated. You customize

639
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,400
dashboards for each user. So, whoever is

640
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,919
using that software, whether it's

641
00:23:41,919 --> 00:23:43,440
somebody in the building department, the

642
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,280
front desk, you know, how it's payable,

643
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,440
how they use the software, they can

644
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,159
customize dashboard and get in and have

645
00:23:50,159 --> 00:23:53,039
everything set up the way they use it.

646
00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:54,640
Um, and then reports can also be

647
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,280
scheduled to generate on a recurrence.

648
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,080
So um right now you can't do work in

649
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,640
BSNA while it's recording a gen

650
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,559
generating a report excuse me um cloud

651
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:08,480
you can schedule these reports to be

652
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,400
generated you can schedule them to be

653
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,480
emailed and continue to work in the

654
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,720
programs as as it goes um and then like

655
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,880
I said the updates happen automatically.

656
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,760
So right now you have to update each

657
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,400
module individually. Go in, log out, go

658
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,080
back in. Now it just it happens if we we

659
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,120
move to cloud. Um and so then there's

660
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:34,880
also

661
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,120
AI features that are included in this in

662
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:38,559
this proposal as well. There's an AI

663
00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:41,360
assistant um that offers 247 instant

664
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:44,240
answers, but it's only trained on BSNA

665
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,440
help documents. So,

666
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,360
um, it would offer support transition to

667
00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:50,799
text, so they would have a case already

668
00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:52,240
built by the time the texts get a hold

669
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,559
of it if we have any issues, um, with

670
00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:57,120
BSNA. It's a new feature, but they're

671
00:24:57,120 --> 00:25:00,720
always improving it with questions and training on that. And there's also

672
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,919
AI invoicing, so it would scan invoices

673
00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:09,120
um, for faster addition of vendor info, due dates, invoice numbers, and

674
00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:12,320
then line item values would be added to

675
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,880
general ledger, accounts payable,

676
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,360
accounts receivable, etc. Um, so that

677
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:19,360
would make the invoicing process a

678
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:21,840
little bit faster as well. So, it's more

679
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,679
accessible to both township staff and

680
00:25:23,679 --> 00:25:26,320
residents. Um, everything communicates

681
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,600
in cloud. There's a person record

682
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,919
instead of having to go into each module

683
00:25:31,919 --> 00:25:33,840
individually and search for somebody's

684
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,799
tax record, somebody's UB record, what

685
00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:39,360
have you. Um, you can search by a person

686
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:41,039
and it pulls up all of that person's

687
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:43,679
info. So, the other day when I looked at

688
00:25:43,679 --> 00:25:45,840
my father-in-law's

689
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,159
tax bills, I would have seen all of his

690
00:25:48,159 --> 00:25:50,480
parcels in one go rather than having to

691
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,159
click into each individual parcel every

692
00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:54,400
time and add it all up to tell them what

693
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,360
he owed for taxes. Um, so when when

694
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,520
residents want information from multiple

695
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,440
tax years now, you have to change the

696
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,559
database, go in and then print, and it

697
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:08,400
takes it takes a while to to do those

698
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,520
things. Um, this you could do it all in

699
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,320
one go. So there's also a global search

700
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,440
option. So all records containing the

701
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,600
searched item would pull from all

702
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,120
modules. So if you search 1442,

703
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:26,320
general ledger, UB, what have you would

704
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,360
all pull anything with that number in

705
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:32,559
there. Um

706
00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:34,400
so it would reduce phone calls um and

707
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,000
inerson weight times for residents

708
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,720
looking for property information. Um, it

709
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,559
would also cut down on the time needed

710
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:42,320
to compile foyers because everything

711
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,440
would be right at my fingertips. Um, and

712
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,760
it may even reduce foyer requests being

713
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,919
made to the township depending on what

714
00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:52,559
they're after. And so, uh, working

715
00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:55,520
remotely in BSNA also wouldn't require

716
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,080
uh, remote access cloud cloud spouse

717
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,840
browser based. So, you could do it from

718
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,440
anywhere as long as you have your login

719
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,880
info and a secure connection. And so

720
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,640
this agreement also includes a new

721
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,559
module. It's called community

722
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:11,520
development which um it manages all the

723
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,159
components of building code enforcement,

724
00:27:14,159 --> 00:27:17,440
zoning and planning. Um it was chosen

725
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,159
because it allows for online building

726
00:27:20,159 --> 00:27:22,320
permits, zoning permits, trade permits

727
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,080
um for residents and contractors. Right

728
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,120
now those are fillable PDF files. Um and

729
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:29,279
applying for permits online would be a

730
00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:32,080
straightforward and easy process. Um,

731
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,159
and as I mentioned before, 11

732
00:27:34,159 --> 00:27:35,520
communities in Jennese County are

733
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,520
already live with this. So many

734
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,039
contractors are already used to that.

735
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:43,039
Um, and it would create continuity

736
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:44,880
between departments. So, inspector

737
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,720
reports would be easily available to

738
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,000
chief and um, our account manager

739
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,840
confirmed that this implementation would

740
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,440
occur along with um, the cloud upgrade

741
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,000
at the same time or shortly thereafter,

742
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,919
but right around the same time. So, the

743
00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:04,159
annual fee is a set cost of $54,350.

744
00:28:04,159 --> 00:28:06,000
Um, and there's a onetime fee associated

745
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,399
with implementation and training. Um,

746
00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:10,000
for a grand, so that would be a grand

747
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,000
total of $113,595,

748
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,919
but it wouldn't all be due once it it's

749
00:28:15,919 --> 00:28:18,799
broken out. Um, this our current cost of

750
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:21,120
bsna.net with with online services,

751
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:24,159
which is how the residents um access

752
00:28:24,159 --> 00:28:27,200
everything, is about $26,500

753
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,279
annually. and the annual fee wouldn't be

754
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:34,000
triggered until the go live date um and

755
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,399
net payments that have been made um

756
00:28:36,399 --> 00:28:38,799
would be prorated into that annual fee.

757
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:40,960
So training on software would be handled

758
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,279
remotely for about a week and staff

759
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:46,000
would have access to um those trainers

760
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,240
for two weeks after as issues arise,

761
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,200
questions, things like that um as they

762
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,919
get into the software and use it. So I

763
00:28:53,919 --> 00:28:55,520
understand that this is a costly upgrade

764
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,760
and I believe securing the current

765
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,320
pricing and migrating to cloud prior to

766
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,320
net end of life being announced is the

767
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,960
best uh interest of the township staff

768
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,360
and the residents. Cloud reduces the

769
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,600
need for storage upgrades and servers

770
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,240
and keeping costs predictable is good as

771
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,120
well. Um we've clearly outgrown the net

772
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,720
platform and soon it won't be supported

773
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,200
anyway. Um, so every department head

774
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,200
agrees that this transition is overdue

775
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,200
and if efficiency in what we do as a

776
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,720
township

777
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,039
uh as staff and allows us to serve our

778
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:32,480
residents in the best way possible. So

779
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,520
questions.

780
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,880
>> I got a question. How long is this

781
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,520
technology been available?

782
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,240
>> It's been

783
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,440
at least within the last five six years

784
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,640
if I'm mistaken.

785
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,159
>> It's been it's been a

786
00:29:48,159 --> 00:29:49,760
>> it's been a few years. It's been within

787
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:50,640
the time my

788
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,799
>> Are you talking about the cloud or BSNA?

789
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:53,440
>> The BSNA.

790
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,480
>> Oh, BS BSA.

791
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,480
>> BNA been around forever.

792
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,480
>> So the cloud is something new that

793
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:58,960
>> correct.

794
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,640
>> It's like Microsoft that used to sit on

795
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,200
reside on your PC. Now it's it's all in

796
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,840
the air. It's Microsoft 365. Everybody's

797
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,559
moving to it. It becomes uh you know

798
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:10,000
>> we actually heard a lot of horror

799
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,760
stories from communities that jumped on

800
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,399
the cloud platform early because they

801
00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:16,240
hadn't worked all the bugs out yet. So I

802
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,559
think it scared a lot of people off. Now

803
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:20,960
we're hearing no it's really good. Uh

804
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,000
it's it's more efficient and PSNA's got

805
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,240
their act together as far as transition.

806
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,200
>> I mean with our community growing and um

807
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,399
there's going to be more records coming

808
00:30:30,399 --> 00:30:32,880
in I mean is this unlimited cloud usage

809
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,640
or we're captive certain

810
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,080
>> it's unlimited cloud.

811
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:36,480
>> Yeah.

812
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,000
>> Okay.

813
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,440
One other question.

814
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,600
>> When people have access to let's say

815
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,279
their tax records, bills, things like

816
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:43,919
that,

817
00:30:43,919 --> 00:30:45,520
>> are they going to be charged? Because I

818
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,360
know like city of Flint, you want to get

819
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,080
some records, they charge them.

820
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,039
>> If it's your record, no, you're not

821
00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:55,120
charged for that. No.

822
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,600
>> But we are looking at things that for

823
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,279
certain things, whether it's something

824
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:00,880
that we would Mike's going to be, I

825
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,480
think, reviewing the fee schedule that

826
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,320
will be coming to the board later. But

827
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,799
again, it's more of But anyway, is there

828
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:08,399
any other questions or comments from the

829
00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:09,919
board?

830
00:31:09,919 --> 00:31:12,559
>> Well, I'm just looking at So, with the

831
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:14,720
BSA.net, I understand that we're kind of

832
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,919
limited because we're not going to be

833
00:31:15,919 --> 00:31:18,480
able to but it's more than 100% increase

834
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,399
to go to cloud.

835
00:31:20,399 --> 00:31:23,600
>> Yeah. However, we're I mean, we

836
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,159
assessing can barely work in in what

837
00:31:26,159 --> 00:31:28,080
they're doing. Julia's having memory

838
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,679
issues all the time with her computer.

839
00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:31,760
She can't access her files regularly.

840
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:32,559
It's

841
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:34,320
>> it's I'm sure it's

842
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,880
>> Yeah, I understand it's

843
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,720
>> it's an increase, but that's that's part

844
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,399
of why we're revisiting the fee schedule

845
00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:45,029
as well.

846
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:50,159
» Do they offer more than a year contract?

847
00:31:50,159 --> 00:31:52,320
>> No.

848
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,679
>> Do they raise the price though? I know

849
00:31:53,679 --> 00:31:54,960
he's going But I thought we were going

850
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,480
to have like the fees.

851
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,000
>> Yeah, we're Yes. I'm sorry.

852
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,029
>> Fees locked in. We're locked.

853
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:04,880
one year.

854
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,919
>> Oh, it's just one year.

855
00:32:05,919 --> 00:32:07,200
>> Okay. Well, that's that's what I'm

856
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:07,519
asking.

857
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:08,159
>> Yeah. I don't

858
00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:09,679
>> Yeah, they're they're not they're

859
00:32:09,679 --> 00:32:11,440
increasing

860
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,960
>> um the 10% for users that go on after that, but um

861
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,000
>> the history's been 10%.

862
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,640
for as they

863
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,720
>> as they implement

864
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,360
probably 10% increase. Well, no, it'll

865
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,360
be the January after that if they do it

866
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,360
in the January, right?

867
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,080
No, we were

868
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,840
>> No, I was told we were locked in with the 2026 pricing

869
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,559
>> until when

870
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:37,360
our first full year

871
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,279
>> for full school year. Yeah.

872
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:41,360
>> So then we would hit the 10% whatever

873
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,519
their number is. Assume 10% the

874
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:45,039
following January

875
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:46,960
>> probably middle of the year.

876
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,159
>> It would be middle of the year. Yeah.

877
00:32:48,159 --> 00:32:50,240
>> So January 28th is what I'm what I'm

878
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:50,559
thinking.

879
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:51,840
>> Yeah. Yeah. Probably.

880
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,000
>> Yeah. And I I hope it doesn't keep

881
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,960
increasing 10% year. technology advances

882
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,399
doesn't normally go down.

883
00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:00,960
>> Yes. Normal,

884
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,279
>> but you all know I hate

885
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:05,519
>> I understand I'm kind of referring to

886
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:07,440
your expertise also because you do the

887
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,679
same with your office. So

888
00:33:09,679 --> 00:33:11,919
>> and I hate it and it's it is the reality

889
00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:15,600
of life. I've come to you know

890
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,000
sort of accept it.

891
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,159
But what I'll say with respect to this

892
00:33:20,159 --> 00:33:23,200
is if you have a product that is not

893
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,760
performing for you even though it's

894
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,519
cheaper

895
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:30,000
I don't think it's really cheaper if

896
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,960
it's not meaning services you know if

897
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,399
it's causing inefficiencies here

898
00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:41,120
you know I can see the argument for it

899
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,880
I've seen the sales pitch 100 times it's

900
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,760
always the same predictability they all

901
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,760
like it because they all make more at it

902
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,360
this way. But, you know, hearing what

903
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,919
I'm hearing about the difficulties with

904
00:33:53,919 --> 00:33:55,919
the current thing, knowing that we're

905
00:33:55,919 --> 00:33:57,279
going to have to switch probably next

906
00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:59,919
year anyway, I think there's some logic

907
00:33:59,919 --> 00:34:02,399
to at least save on the 10% this time

908
00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:04,720
around. You know, to Mark's point, yeah,

909
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,240
it's it's a big it's 100% increase in

910
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:11,280
software cost, but it's a lot more

911
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,720
service than what you're getting. So,

912
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:14,879
it's not really an apple to apple.

913
00:34:14,879 --> 00:34:17,440
>> Understand? But also at 10% a year from

914
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,919
54 but I mean

915
00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:22,560
>> is there going to be a point of

916
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,240
>> I don't want to say diminishing return

917
00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:29,040
but where is it's kind of I mean that's

918
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,919
you know it's logarithmic you understand

919
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:34,480
that and is there going to be a point

920
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,480
where we have a you get to a certain

921
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,159
point where we're just going to revisit

922
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,639
other

923
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:42,960
companies that kind of perform the same

924
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,359
service? There is competition but it's

925
00:34:45,359 --> 00:34:46,240
not really

926
00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:46,800
>> okay.

927
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,440
>> Everybody uses BSA and that puts you in

928
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,000
a position where you are capable of

929
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:52,480
being

930
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,760
>> hi sir

931
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,480
>> held hostage by by that.

932
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,000
>> So you know what typically you try to do

933
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,160
to protect yourself from that is have a

934
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,920
right to your data being given back to

935
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,480
you. So then you can then look and see

936
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,200
what other alternatives there are. Um,

937
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,680
I've never seen it actually happen.

938
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,640
>> U, but you know, the risk is real. The

939
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,240
possibility it could happen is real.

940
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:21,839
>> So Mark,

941
00:35:21,839 --> 00:35:24,320
>> just to give you some like before we

942
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,920
decided to go to the cloud, right, we

943
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,440
were looking at options for just

944
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,119
community development, right? To get

945
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:32,000
online submittals, interviewed seven

946
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,640
different companies. Okay. their so

947
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,480
their yearly fees for just community

948
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,400
development was between 12

949
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,040
between$10,000 to $15,000 a year just

950
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,280
for community development. The uh

951
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,800
startup costs were between 45 and 65,000

952
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,200
just for community development. So

953
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,520
BSNA is

954
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,200
probably 90% of the communities in

955
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,240
Michigan. Um which creates an issue with

956
00:35:58,240 --> 00:35:59,680
trying to get someone else in, right?

957
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,760
Because there's no entry market for

958
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,359
these new companies. you know, they they

959
00:36:03,359 --> 00:36:04,400
want to get in, right? And they're

960
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,920
offering you the best opportunities they

961
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,800
have, but those opportunities are are

962
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,960
nowhere in comparison to the rates with

963
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,920
BSNA. Um

964
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,079
so we've looked right to see what other

965
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:20,480
options are out there and it's

966
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,320
as much as it is for BSNA um there is

967
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,480
some economies of scale with just their

968
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,880
knowledge and expertise in Michigan and

969
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,960
trying to find someone that is even half

970
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,839
of what BSNA can offer just isn't

971
00:36:33,839 --> 00:36:35,280
economically viable.

972
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,400
>> Okay.

973
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,200
>> And my forte obviously is not public

974
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,400
safety. So I'm going to refer to the

975
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,640
experts here. I know everybody on this

976
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,800
board has community's best interest at

977
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,640
heart and every dollar is accounted for

978
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,920
and I know we all that way. So I will

979
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:57,510
just

980
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,280
» give you a little think in the best

981
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,119
interest of the township

982
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:03,040
>> like John John and I agree. This is one

983
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,800
thing we can solidly agree on. I'm

984
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,800
against what where the industry is going

985
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,400
but it's it's that way just like when I

986
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,480
first got into publishing magazines.

987
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,800
>> Yeah. 15 magazines you're pumping out.

988
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,800
Well, you all the software resided

989
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,640
there, but you also had all the problems

990
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,240
that went with it.

991
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:20,079
>> And what happened was is there was one

992
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:21,680
it ended up whittling down to one

993
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:22,560
company,

994
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,040
>> but it still resided on your computer

995
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,240
and then all of a sudden they said they

996
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,240
were going to go to cloud.

997
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:30,880
However, the efficiencies and this is

998
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,480
what I talked to Megan about because I

999
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,160
see them every day. Tom sees them every

1000
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,839
day. I mean, you come in, this doesn't

1001
00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:37,440
work, that doesn't work. Well, Julie's

1002
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,960
coming in. She's upset. This isn't

1003
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,720
working. She can't get this filed open.

1004
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:44,880
When you add all all up, it especially,

1005
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,160
you know, you take a look at the sellers

1006
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,160
in here. I think making this township

1007
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,599
more friendly to our residents and

1008
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:54,079
opening up a lot of information to our

1009
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:55,920
residents and also being able to make

1010
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,040
the staff more efficient. So, and to

1011
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,560
answer one other question just because

1012
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,000
I've seen it in in the publishing

1013
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,599
industry which is really big in

1014
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:07,040
software. I don't think I think BSNA has

1015
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,560
become such a monolith that you know we

1016
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,040
can talk about residing our own data but

1017
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,720
sooner or later BSNA is going to have

1018
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:14,000
data that's going to be written in a way

1019
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,520
that's going to be it's going to cost us

1020
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,960
a million dollars to have a conversion

1021
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,520
to another software and as they grow

1022
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,440
other software companies it's hard for

1023
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,520
other software companies to be able to

1024
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,320
penetrate an industry like they did in

1025
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,160
publishing. So, you know, I would say

1026
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,359
yes, it's expensive.

1027
00:38:29,359 --> 00:38:31,200
>> Well, I also don't want a monopoly to

1028
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,280
dictate what, you know,

1029
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,960
>> but but we don't have any control over

1030
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,520
that. I mean, I can guarantee in three

1031
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,599
years, we'll be looking if if we are,

1032
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:41,520
but you know, I just just so the board

1033
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,359
and the residents know, I I it's

1034
00:38:43,359 --> 00:38:45,680
probably not going to change.

1035
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,400
>> Thank you.

1036
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,880
>> Y just to be honest with everybody. Any

1037
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,720
other questions or comments?

1038
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:53,200
>> Have you looked at the resident side of

1039
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,520
the software?

1040
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,480
I haven't gotten to like physically get

1041
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,240
into it, but it's

1042
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:02,640
>> wonder going to change. Is it

1043
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,560
>> It's pretty It's pretty similar, but

1044
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,880
it's there's more available to them. Um

1045
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,640
especially with the the addition of the

1046
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,359
community development, everything will

1047
00:39:13,359 --> 00:39:14,240
show for them there.

1048
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:17,200
>> And are they going to implement that

1049
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,240
access on our website

1050
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:21,599
>> as part of what they're doing here?

1051
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:25,109
>> Yes.

1052
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:28,800
Christine, anything? Rob, Bill, anything

1053
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,119
else? All right, Megan, you did a great

1054
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:33,440
job. Um, might as well stay up there.

1055
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:33,920
>> Yep.

1056
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,440
>> If there's no other questions, okay,

1057
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,720
I'll entertain a motion regarding the

1058
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:39,200
BSNA software and service cloud upgrade

1059
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,800
proposal and authorization for the

1060
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,400
supervisor to execute an agreement on

1061
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,119
behalf of the township as presented.

1062
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:47,680
>> Second.

1063
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,440
>> Did somebody move that?

1064
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,359
>> Apparently, you did.

1065
00:39:51,359 --> 00:39:51,920
>> I did.

1066
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:52,720
>> I'll move it.

1067
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:53,839
>> All right. There you go. I need somebody

1068
00:39:53,839 --> 00:39:55,359
to move that. You second. All right.

1069
00:39:55,359 --> 00:39:56,960
Motion's been moved and seconded. Any

1070
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,960
further discussion? Hearing none. Clerk

1071
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,240
crew, will you please call the role?

1072
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:01,040
>> Lorraine,

1073
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,839
>> yes.

1074
00:40:01,839 --> 00:40:02,560
>> Clark,

1075
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,200
>> absolutely.

1076
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,000
>> Kesler,

1077
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,200
>> yes.

1078
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:07,920
>> Gopal,

1079
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,040
>> yes.

1080
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:09,760
>> Tucker,

1081
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:10,960
>> yes.

1082
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,200
>> I vote yes. Reed,

1083
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,400
>> yes.

1084
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,640
>> Motion passes.

1085
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,359
>> All right. Next. This is the uh contract

1086
00:40:19,359 --> 00:40:22,640
award for IT services. Megan.

1087
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,440
>> So, um, IT services and maintenance for

1088
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,880
the township's computer network are

1089
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,880
currently provided by Centas. Um,

1090
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,240
currently those services are provided

1091
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:31,520
through a mixture of three older

1092
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,440
agreements that resulted in some

1093
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,200
unpredictability and costs from year to

1094
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,839
year. Um, Centas recently advised that

1095
00:40:37,839 --> 00:40:40,400
the older agreement will be discontinued

1096
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,000
um, and submitted a new comprehensive

1097
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,160
proposal to bring all upgrades and

1098
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,119
services to their current standards. Um

1099
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:49,040
so we use this as an opportunity to

1100
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,800
explore other IT options um for IT

1101
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,560
services and determine the best fit for

1102
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,520
the township um as security and service

1103
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,200
needs of the township have changed

1104
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,680
significantly in recent years and will

1105
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,040
continue to change as we move forward

1106
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,200
into the future. Um so the township

1107
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,480
solicited six proposals from IT firms um

1108
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,960
after their initial review. Two were

1109
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,720
removed from consideration. Um, one

1110
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:14,240
company was small and their proposal

1111
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:17,040
didn't fully address our needs. Um, the

1112
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,280
other doesn't currently have a presence

1113
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,200
in Michigan. They're based out of Ohio.

1114
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,240
So, we removed them from consideration.

1115
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,000
Uh, the four remaining IT firms were

1116
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,839
Centas, Dupoint Systems, and BC3. Um,

1117
00:41:29,839 --> 00:41:31,440
which they provided proposals that do

1118
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,440
meet the needs of the township. Um, and

1119
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,400
copies of those are in your packets as

1120
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,160
well as a comparison of the four

1121
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,280
proposals. Um all of which included u

1122
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,040
network management and monitoring for

1123
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,119
the servers and the workstations backup

1124
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:47,440
management and monitoring um viral

1125
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,560
management and monitoring Microsoft 365

1126
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,560
management cyber security management and

1127
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,480
monitoring email security which included

1128
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,640
anti-PAM anti virus anti-malware

1129
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,560
management monitoring and managed

1130
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,319
endpoint detected detection and

1131
00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:02,560
response. Um, so based on this

1132
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,400
comparison, um, while the VC3 proposal

1133
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,560
was not the lowest cost, their plan does

1134
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,000
offer the most to us. Um, they're a

1135
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,760
national company with a local presence

1136
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,960
in Bath, um, which is also where the SNA

1137
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,640
is located. Um, they provide two always

1138
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,640
on teams. There's the network operations

1139
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,319
center, which monitors all of our

1140
00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:27,599
networks and infrastructure 247. Um they

1141
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:29,520
have a security operations center which

1142
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,839
their security analysts are actively

1143
00:42:31,839 --> 00:42:33,280
looking for breaches and responding to

1144
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,280
alerts 247. Um they also offer twofold

1145
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,880
limited unlimited support rather. Um so

1146
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,480
and they pride themselves that most of

1147
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,160
their issues are resolved in their first

1148
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,720
interaction with the client. Um so they

1149
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:49,599
will offer remote support which is 247

1150
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:52,160
365 and their average call response time

1151
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,680
they say is two minutes. Um, unlimited

1152
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,319
on-site is also included in that so they

1153
00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:00,960
can have a tech on site available to us

1154
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,599
within a couple of hours. Um, which is

1155
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:06,240
huge to our staff. Um, that'll minimize

1156
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:08,079
downtime, keep critical resident

1157
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:10,560
services operational. Um, you know, for

1158
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,240
example, we had a recent email issue

1159
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:15,280
that took our current provider two texts

1160
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,839
and nearly two days to resolve for a

1161
00:43:17,839 --> 00:43:19,920
staff member who was unable to send or

1162
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,079
receive emails and she had multiple

1163
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:24,560
email boxes missing from from her email.

1164
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,079
So that's problem

1165
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:27,280
>> that was with Centas.

1166
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,000
>> That was Centas. Yes. Um, so our current

1167
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,680
model, you know, results in staff time

1168
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,520
being diverted to resolve technical

1169
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,560
issues sometimes. um and our staff is

1170
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,520
not have expertise in in the technical

1171
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,000
side of things. So they offer

1172
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,079
state-of-the-art um security protocols

1173
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:46,640
and a multi-layer backup and disaster

1174
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:51,359
recovery strategy for the township. It's all security integrated. Um so

1175
00:43:51,359 --> 00:43:53,359
they'll actually implement um

1176
00:43:53,359 --> 00:43:55,920
multiffactor authentification and

1177
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,880
configuration crowd strike um endpoint

1178
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,640
detection and response and security

1179
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,200
awareness training which will you know

1180
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,920
test staff on fishing and scam um

1181
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,079
issues within emails and things like

1182
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:11,839
that. They also offer dark web

1183
00:44:11,839 --> 00:44:14,560
monitoring uh which will alert us if

1184
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,160
sensitive information is found for sale

1185
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,480
on the dark web. Uh they also offer

1186
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,920
email protection which filters out

1187
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,599
harmful emails before they even get to

1188
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:25,839
the inboxes. Um domain name system and

1189
00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:27,760
web protection. It blocks it'll help

1190
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,079
block access to nefarious websites and

1191
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:33,119
prevent accidentally downloading malware

1192
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:36,079
and prevent scam exposure. Um and then

1193
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:39,599
they will back up township data to US

1194
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:41,520
federal information processing standard

1195
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,240
compliant off-site locations. um those

1196
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:46,400
would be nightly backups in a secure

1197
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,880
site in Atlanta and is replicated in a

1198
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,280
secondary site um in Las Vegas about a

1199
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,240
week later. So the immutable backups,

1200
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:56,240
they can't be overwritten and they can

1201
00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:58,400
go back through the duration of our our

1202
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,560
partnership with them. Um so if we stick

1203
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,359
with BC3 for 10 years, we have 10 years

1204
00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:08,000
of our backups available to us. um

1205
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,839
which would you know they offer backup

1206
00:45:09,839 --> 00:45:11,760
status monitoring, data restores and

1207
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,560
disaster recovery planning. Um they

1208
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,280
Microsoft 365 protection and backups.

1209
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,040
They continuously monitor backups and

1210
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,280
prevent data loss which those would back

1211
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,160
up three times daily every day offsite.

1212
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,400
Um they do specialize in municipal

1213
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,599
clients. So there's over 1,200 state,

1214
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:31,520
local and county entities that they are

1215
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,920
the IT firm for. Um and they're endorsed

1216
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,839
by a variety of municipal leagues

1217
00:45:35,839 --> 00:45:37,839
including the National League of Cities

1218
00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:39,680
and their average client relationship is

1219
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,400
over 11 years. Um they are a BSNA

1220
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,640
partner and they provide security

1221
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,880
operations for BSNA. So they they were

1222
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,359
kind of built up the local office was

1223
00:45:49,359 --> 00:45:52,720
built up with BSNA um and work together

1224
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:55,599
with them. And currently we tend to have

1225
00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:57,440
some fingerpointing between BSNA and our

1226
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,079
IT. Um as issues arrive they would work

1227
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:02,240
together in this case. Um they'd also

1228
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:04,480
coordinate with our other vendors

1229
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,720
including Microsoft um and support our

1230
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:08,880
other third party licenses, Adobe,

1231
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,359
things like that. Um cost would be

1232
00:46:11,359 --> 00:46:13,760
consistent, predictable monthtomonth.

1233
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,560
The monthly cost for this plan is 300

1234
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,079
3,510

1235
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:20,720
um plus a onetime implementation fee

1236
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:23,200
which is a cost of $6,84. the

1237
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,119
implementation cost to include um 3,900

1238
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:30,640
for onboarding for the staff and then um

1239
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,160
21.84

1240
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,160
would be for the to set up the multi

1241
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,440
multi- factor authentication um and user

1242
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,040
app setup fees. Um so from signing one

1243
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,599
to two weeks later we'd have kickoff um

1244
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:45,680
and establish a goal live date and then

1245
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,359
six to eight weeks we'd have onboarding

1246
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:51,440
begin with them. Um, I recommend BC3 due

1247
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,319
to their business partnership with BSNA,

1248
00:46:54,319 --> 00:46:56,560
their specialty and municipal municipal

1249
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,200
clients, um, their the unlimited support

1250
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,040
and the extensive security measures they

1251
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,520
will offer to the township. Um, which I

1252
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,280
feel makes them the best fit for Fenton

1253
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,119
Township today and for the future.

1254
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:09,040
>> Thanks, Megan. Great job. Before I um,

1255
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,480
ask any questions from the board, just

1256
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,800
wanted to one thing and she's you

1257
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,640
brought it up twice, so you did a great

1258
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,319
job. So, but one of the things that

1259
00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:17,520
impressed me because I went through this

1260
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,319
process with Megan is the fact that if

1261
00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:21,599
we're g, you know, with what we're doing

1262
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:24,079
with BSNA, I really like the company.

1263
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:26,240
Number one, it's giving a company that

1264
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:28,720
we've worked with for 30 years, which I

1265
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:30,640
told you a lot of the problems, somebody

1266
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,400
would say, Julie would say, you know, I

1267
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,920
got a problem and they would call up

1268
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,599
Centurus and Centur said, well, it's not

1269
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:37,200
us, it's them. And they would go back

1270
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,800
and forth. So, the problem would go

1271
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,119
unresolved. So, I think what's nice

1272
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:42,560
about this is that they're actually,

1273
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,079
aren't there corporate offices in the

1274
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:46,480
same city? So, they grew, like Megan

1275
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,400
said, right, with BSNA, and I think it's

1276
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,200
really the only logical choice. Um, you

1277
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,560
know, I I think the difference we're

1278
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,599
going to pay uh is worth the fact that

1279
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:58,480
now we will be as efficient as we can be

1280
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,319
because again, they work together, they

1281
00:48:00,319 --> 00:48:02,079
know the software together, so they

1282
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:03,520
understand the hardware, they understand

1283
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,440
the software, and it will eliminate um

1284
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,440
as much problems. So anyway, are there

1285
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,040
any questions or comments from the

1286
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,640
board?

1287
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,760
>> Um, how

1288
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,119
you're saying how long have we had

1289
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:20,400
centaris? You said 30 years.

1290
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,280
>> Well, it it's been different iterations.

1291
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,160
It was BCL computing solutions, then it

1292
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,000
was CCR, then it was Cintaras, but

1293
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,760
the anchor of that is Brian Murray, and

1294
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,440
he has actually it's like 32 years.

1295
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,800
So when Okay. He's he's in a different

1296
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,319
part of the company. I'm not even the

1297
00:48:40,319 --> 00:48:43,280
person to deal with it.

1298
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,680
So, we've been with a version of the

1299
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,920
same company. So, when we were having

1300
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,040
these issues that were missing files or

1301
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,319
like saying about can't find certain

1302
00:48:54,319 --> 00:48:57,599
things, do we know which you know one

1303
00:48:57,599 --> 00:48:59,920
company's blaming the other? Do we do

1304
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:03,839
you have a headache? Um, first I'd like

1305
00:49:03,839 --> 00:49:05,839
to

1306
00:49:05,839 --> 00:49:07,839
>> um

1307
00:49:07,839 --> 00:49:10,640
not sure I I I think a lot of the

1308
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,160
problems are maybe inherent with trying

1309
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,800
to run so much information in the net

1310
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:17,599
platform.

1311
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:17,920
>> Okay.

1312
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,920
>> So maybe that going to the cloud will

1313
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,480
eliminate a lot of those issues anyway.

1314
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,000
>> But just having um someone who's a

1315
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,280
municipal

1316
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,200
>> expert and a partner of the SNA I I

1317
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,400
think just

1318
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,040
minimizes any of those types of issues

1319
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,030
where there's fingerpoint.

1320
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,200
Is this contract

1321
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,480
locking us in?

1322
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:43,280
>> Three years.

1323
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,079
Okay. And as far as on-site

1324
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:49,440
support, have they have we utilized them

1325
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,079
to come in on site before

1326
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:55,280
I see you like Centas is extra cost

1327
00:49:55,280 --> 00:50:00,000
materials and this DC3 is included cost.

1328
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,400
How often do we require that company to

1329
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:03,839
come in?

1330
00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:06,319
>> We've had probably half a dozen on-site

1331
00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:07,680
visits this year,

1332
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:07,920
>> okay,

1333
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,520
>> from our current provider. Um, you know,

1334
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,760
once everything's set up, ideally most

1335
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,240
of the support would be able to be done

1336
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:18,640
remotely, but if we're staging a new

1337
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,079
computer or there's some things that

1338
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:24,319
will require onsite and with BC3,

1339
00:50:24,319 --> 00:50:26,319
there's that's just part of the deal,

1340
00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:28,640
right? I just want to ask with this on

1341
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,880
site where they had to come in six

1342
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,079
times. You said six times. Is was that

1343
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:37,599
something that needed on site as far as

1344
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:39,119
there was issues that they couldn't

1345
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:40,400
resolve over the phone?

1346
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,040
>> Correct. Yeah.

1347
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,520
Centas will resolve things remotely if

1348
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,280
they can, but if they can't, then they

1349
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,750
send somebody out.

1350
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:52,720
» Any other questions or

1351
00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:54,640
>> how much are we currently paying as the

1352
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,000
terrorist?

1353
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,880
35,000 a year.

1354
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,960
I'm not sure what all is included in

1355
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,559
that. I asked that question to Megan

1356
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:04,559
earlier today. She had a lovely

1357
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:06,480
spreadsheet that she sent to me that,

1358
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,880
you know, itemizes everything out. It

1359
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,240
was quite detailed. Um, so but that's

1360
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:16,000
the last two years been about 35 36

1361
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,240
and a lot of it is ads and that's one of

1362
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:20,480
the frustrations that I have had with it

1363
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,559
because the temptation you want to look

1364
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:25,040
at these and compare the monthly These

1365
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,400
are apples and okay

1366
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:33,760
wants 3,000 for software stuff plus

1367
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,040
some some fragment of that 35 $36,000.

1368
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,400
So those two aren't comparable. So you

1369
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,240
know when I'm looking at this the two

1370
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:44,480
that charge extra to be to show up on

1371
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,880
site I'm throwing those out because

1372
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,960
they're just they're not not comparing

1373
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,200
the same thing. You know, my temptation

1374
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,920
is to want to gambling.

1375
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,559
I don't know. I probably the guy that

1376
00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:58,640
caused them to be considered. I was at a

1377
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,480
golf outing and they were passing out

1378
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,800
cards and well, we should check them

1379
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,599
out. Um, but what it boils down to me,

1380
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:09,920
there is a cost differential there. But

1381
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,760
the point, the very last thing that she

1382
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,920
wrote, you know, that they're BSNA

1383
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,240
partners.

1384
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:17,680
There's value to that, you know,

1385
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,680
particularly when we're doing a

1386
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,559
transition [snorts] to the cloud.

1387
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:25,520
The fact that they their primary focus

1388
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,160
is on municipalities,

1389
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,520
they've heard all the stuff that we do.

1390
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,960
Now, does that leave us in the same

1391
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,200
position where we're, you know, we're

1392
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,040
kind of hostage to somebody that knows

1393
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,756
all this stuff? Yeah, maybe. but

1394
00:52:39,756 --> 00:52:41,440
[snorts] it's probably better than

1395
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,800
somebody that doesn't have those expert

1396
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,680
levels of expertise. So, I'm thinking

1397
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,359
there's some value to that. I mean,

1398
00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:51,119
there's some other differences in here

1399
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:53,040
that you can point to, but you know, to

1400
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,480
me, when I'm looking at those are the

1401
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,880
only two I would be considering, and I

1402
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:03,040
think that the ad of having a BSNA approved partner

1403
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:07,200
is legit. I've run into this in the past

1404
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,440
with, you know, people that were ware

1405
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,119
certified back when that was an

1406
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:14,160
operating system. You know, it made a

1407
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,119
difference that you had a CNA versus

1408
00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:18,720
somebody that that wasn't. They didn't

1409
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:23,280
know how the software worked beyond the general stuff, you know, they knew

1410
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,880
the minutia. So there in my past, I

1411
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,160
found that that is a benefit that's that

1412
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,480
has value.

1413
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,160
Yeah, I think it's a bonus definitely

1414
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,119
with this DC3 being affiliated in

1415
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:39,920
partnership with the DSMA. That's a

1416
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,280
positive plus.

1417
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,480
>> And Megan I know has dove very deep into

1418
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,559
this. She you've been on it for what six

1419
00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:50,880
weeks, seven weeks, met with not only

1420
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,400
did she meet with all the vendors, but

1421
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,319
she met with every one of the staff. The

1422
00:53:54,319 --> 00:53:56,000
staff are part of the you know part of

1423
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,640
the decision- making process. So, I I

1424
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,000
you know, I have come to respect Megan's

1425
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,160
um and again, I said it with John. You

1426
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,640
know, I'm very skeptical skeptical of

1427
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:07,839
anything you bring to me that I know

1428
00:54:07,839 --> 00:54:09,760
I've got to pay an annual fee and they

1429
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,599
hold me hostage, but that's where the

1430
00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:12,960
world has come. That's what we're doing

1431
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,960
with all of our software now. So, Megan,

1432
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,079
I think you've done a great job. Is

1433
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:17,359
there any other questions or comments

1434
00:54:17,359 --> 00:54:19,839
from the board?

1435
00:54:19,839 --> 00:54:21,280
Okay, I'll entertain a motion regarding

1436
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,680
the contract award the contract award

1437
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,319
for IT services to VC3 as recommended by

1438
00:54:26,319 --> 00:54:29,280
assistant manager Megan Gio.

1439
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,880
>> Motion to approve.

1440
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:31,359
>> Second.

1441
00:54:31,359 --> 00:54:32,319
>> All right. Motion's been moved and

1442
00:54:32,319 --> 00:54:33,760
seconded. Any further discussion?

1443
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,440
>> We revisit this in three years to see

1444
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,119
how it's going.

1445
00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:39,359
>> Sure, we can do it. Well, I mean, if

1446
00:54:39,359 --> 00:54:40,559
we're locked in for years,

1447
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:42,880
>> but that's only for that's only for one,

1448
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,720
>> you know, that's for the it.

1449
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:46,559
>> Let's just keep something. Just keep an

1450
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:47,359
eye on

1451
00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:48,720
>> I think the staff's going to let us

1452
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:49,280
know.

1453
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,599
>> I'll be honest with you. I I I I mean,

1454
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:53,040
I'm certainly going to ask Tom. I'm

1455
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:57,599
going to ask Megan what, you know, what what price are they charging now?

1456
00:54:57,599 --> 00:54:58,880
And I think we're going to know within

1457
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,640
the you know, once the implementation

1458
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,160
starts, the staff's either going to go

1459
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,400
this is amazing or we're going to know

1460
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,920
and it's going to come back to this

1461
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,480
board anyway. But I think is with her

1462
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,319
research I think this is a good

1463
00:55:10,319 --> 00:55:12,319
decision. So

1464
00:55:12,319 --> 00:55:14,960
any other discussion and we will stay on

1465
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,559
top of it.

1466
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:18,559
>> All right. Hearing none. Clerk Crew,

1467
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:19,520
will you please call the role?

1468
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,720
>> Yes. Kesler?

1469
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:21,440
>> Yes.

1470
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,160
>> Gopal?

1471
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:22,960
>> Yes.

1472
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:23,680
>> Tucker?

1473
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:24,319
>> Yes.

1474
00:55:24,319 --> 00:55:26,319
>> I vote yes. Reed,

1475
00:55:26,319 --> 00:55:28,319
>> yes.

1476
00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:30,079
>> Pardon me. Lorraine,

1477
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:30,880
>> yes.

1478
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:31,520
>> Clark,

1479
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:32,160
>> yes.

1480
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,440
>> Motion passes.

1481
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,040
>> All right, moving next thing. Thanks,

1482
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,200
Megan, very much. Appreciate it. Next

1483
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,960
under new business, the approval of the

1484
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,440
2026 Fenton Township operating millage

1485
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,599
rate. U, we've all reviewed the memo in

1486
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:44,880
the packet. I'm going to read a

1487
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,599
narrative that Tom wrote just for our

1488
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:50,160
attendees um that maybe you've got this

1489
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,119
in the packet, but um as you will

1490
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:55,839
recall, a 2020 uh 2021 Michigan Court of

1491
00:55:55,839 --> 00:55:57,359
Appeals ruling determined that charter

1492
00:55:57,359 --> 00:55:59,520
townships may levy up to five mills

1493
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,040
subject to the Headley Roadback

1494
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,720
calculations regardless of how the

1495
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:04,799
township became a charter township.

1496
00:56:04,799 --> 00:56:07,359
Prior to 2022, based on the 1985

1497
00:56:07,359 --> 00:56:09,119
attorney general attorney general

1498
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:11,440
opinion, Fenton Township only levity a

1499
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,680
millage rate based on the allocated

1500
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,680
county mill at the time Fenton Township

1501
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,359
became a charter township by board

1502
00:56:17,359 --> 00:56:20,000
resolution in 1980. That millage rate

1503
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,119
was 1.04 mills which by 2021 had been

1504
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:26,960
reduced to our current which is 0.6576

1505
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,799
due to the Headley roll back

1506
00:56:28,799 --> 00:56:30,720
calculations.

1507
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:33,839
Um, the 2021 ruling increased the

1508
00:56:33,839 --> 00:56:35,520
maximum millage rate the township can

1509
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,040
levy substantially. When the board

1510
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,280
reviewed this information a year ago, we

1511
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:40,960
had a special meeting. It was decided to

1512
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,760
leave the 2025 millage rate unchanged at

1513
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,839
0.6576.

1514
00:56:45,839 --> 00:56:47,599
With the deadline to file the township's

1515
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:50,960
L429 form approaching, uh, which there

1516
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,880
is a draft attached, the board needs to

1517
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,200
determine the 2026 property tax millage

1518
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,240
rate. For 2026, the maximum allow

1519
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:03,040
allowable millage levy is 3.00001.

1520
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,359
Um, based on our prior board decisions

1521
00:57:05,359 --> 00:57:08,400
and anticipated revenue needs for 2027,

1522
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:09,920
uh, it's both Tom and I's recommendation

1523
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,599
that the board maintain the mill rate at

1524
00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:13,839
06576

1525
00:57:13,839 --> 00:57:16,400
for 2026 tax role. And just to give you

1526
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,400
an idea, again, a township that is

1527
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,240
well-managed. Just letting you know that

1528
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,559
the board and the staff that works here

1529
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:24,240
works with the same mill. And Tom, that

1530
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:25,599
mill

1531
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:27,680
It's been since

1532
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:28,559
>> 0.65

1533
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:29,839
>> 21

1534
00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:30,880
>> 2021.

1535
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,720
>> It's been the same since 21, I believe.

1536
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,200
>> Yeah. Since 2021. Um, and we're

1537
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,880
certainly coming to you again and not

1538
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,799
asking to raise that millage rate and

1539
00:57:38,799 --> 00:57:40,319
keep the millage rate exactly where it

1540
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:43,040
is. So, um, any questions or comments

1541
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,599
from the board?

1542
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:48,720
I will say that the millillage that

1543
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,079
you're recommending is about

1544
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:55,200
a quarter of what the cap is.

1545
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:55,599
>> Yep.

1546
00:57:55,599 --> 00:57:59,040
>> And we're throwing millages out there.

1547
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,599
Did my division problem upside down, so

1548
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:04,000
it didn't give me the exact answer, but

1549
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,000
I rough math tells me it's about a

1550
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,440
fourth of what the allowable millage is.

1551
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,839
I have I don't have any

1552
00:58:11,839 --> 00:58:14,960
desire or inkling to move that amount. I

1553
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,400
think the staff has done a great job

1554
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,160
with budgeting

1555
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,960
operating within that budget. It does

1556
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,440
annoy me when I see millage proposals

1557
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,040
that are in excess of 1 mil for extras

1558
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,640
if you will when we run the township on

1559
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:35,680
65 of a mill. But nevertheless, so I'm

1560
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,760
good with keeping aware of that. Well,

1561
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,599
you know, a lot of cities depend on

1562
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:42,000
mills, so you can't really hold them.

1563
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,040
But, you know, you take a look at the

1564
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,880
city of Fenton, wasn't it? A little over

1565
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,280
three mills for just road improvement.

1566
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,280
Um, and I think your math was a little

1567
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,520
wrong because we're at 0.6. We go to

1568
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,680
three. So, it's a little more than that.

1569
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,599
Um, you're right. Between four,

1570
00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:01,280
but anyway. Um, you know, people talk

1571
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,200
about roads. You know, people think that

1572
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,040
the township is responsible for roads.

1573
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,040
We're not. Um, you know, that's why we

1574
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,640
do a lot of special assessments. But,

1575
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,079
you know, the board could look at things

1576
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:11,280
in the future because people always say,

1577
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,079
"Well, our roads are bad." I don't think

1578
00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:15,920
I think people think their roads are bad

1579
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,839
until we came to you as a township and

1580
00:59:17,839 --> 00:59:19,200
said, "Well, we're going to raise your

1581
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:24,240
millage rate from 0.675 to three." Um,

1582
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:25,920
and uh, so anyway,

1583
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:26,960
>> more like a fifth.

1584
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,559
>> Yeah, fifth.

1585
00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:30,000
>> That's why I said five. a little more

1586
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,680
than

1587
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,720
>> so anyway again I think it's all due to

1588
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,720
how well managed our staff is amazing

1589
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,880
the tenure of our staff is probably

1590
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,079
average probably 15 years um we've got

1591
00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:45,359
people that have worked for the township

1592
00:59:45,359 --> 00:59:47,520
love the township um the township's

1593
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,440
well-managed Tom does a great job on

1594
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,920
budgeting um meets with department heads

1595
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,520
uh puts together budgets for all

1596
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,160
departments and uh it shows when it

1597
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,160
comes time

1598
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,359
to uh renew this millillage. So, it's my

1599
01:00:01,359 --> 01:00:02,799
recommendation and Tom's recommen

1600
01:00:02,799 --> 01:00:05,760
recommendation to keep it at 0.6576.

1601
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,440
Are there any other questions?

1602
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:10,960
Okay. I'll entertain a motion regarding

1603
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,520
the proposed mill rate of 0.6576 for

1604
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,359
Fenton Township's operating millage for

1605
01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:17,839
the December 2026 property tax role.

1606
01:00:17,839 --> 01:00:19,760
>> I'll support a motion to approve.

1607
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:20,400
Second.

1608
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,839
>> Motion's been moved and seconded. Any

1609
01:00:21,839 --> 01:00:23,680
further discussion? Hearing none, clerk

1610
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,520
approve, you please call the role.

1611
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:26,319
>> Kesler,

1612
01:00:26,319 --> 01:00:26,799
>> yes.

1613
01:00:26,799 --> 01:00:27,599
>> GPel,

1614
01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:29,680
>> yes. I vote yes. Reed,

1615
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:30,079
>> yes.

1616
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:30,799
>> Lorraine,

1617
01:00:30,799 --> 01:00:31,280
>> yes.

1618
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:31,920
>> Clark,

1619
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:32,319
>> yes.

1620
01:00:32,319 --> 01:00:33,119
>> Tucker,

1621
01:00:33,119 --> 01:00:33,760
>> yes.

1622
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,359
>> Motion passes.

1623
01:00:35,359 --> 01:00:37,200
>> Okay, moving on to board comment. Is

1624
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,240
there anyone on the board who has

1625
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:42,240
additional concerns or com comments?

1626
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,880
All right, we will now um open up the

1627
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,640
meeting for public comment on agenda or

1628
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,880
non-aggenda items. I'll now open up the

1629
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,319
meeting for public comment on agenda or

1630
01:00:50,319 --> 01:00:53,040
non-aggenda items. Uh the board is going

1631
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,960
to ask you to keep your comments to

1632
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,200
three minutes or less today. First, is

1633
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,319
there anyone in the audience who'd like

1634
01:00:58,319 --> 01:01:00,559
to address the board? I think Yes. Come

1635
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:03,680
on up, Matt. How are you?

1636
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,599
All we need is your name.

1637
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:06,160
>> Absolutely.

1638
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,559
>> Hi everybody. Matt Burchard at 460 West

1639
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:10,640
Four Lakes Drive. Um couldn't comment

1640
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,880
regarding the SBANA part portion, but

1641
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,559
was there a multi-year contract for that

1642
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:17,200
or is that a one year each time? Wasn't

1643
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,960
sure if you can negotiate a multi-year

1644
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:19,839
deal on that?

1645
01:01:19,839 --> 01:01:21,520
>> Well, that was my question is whether

1646
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,520
you get multiple and it's not.

1647
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,119
>> Yeah, because our ERP system, we work at

1648
01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:27,599
our office. We multi-year contracts and

1649
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:29,920
negotiate down a little bit there. So,

1650
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,359
maybe some room for improvement if you

1651
01:01:31,359 --> 01:01:32,640
want to try that. Um,

1652
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:33,760
>> she's already did that.

1653
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:34,480
>> Okay, awesome.

1654
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:35,359
>> They want to offer it.

1655
01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:37,440
>> And then about the public search portion

1656
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,200
of it, they said they're possibly doing

1657
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,079
a search fee. Um, I would ask the board

1658
01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:44,240
not to implement that for per record

1659
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,359
check for residents of the township. Um,

1660
01:01:47,359 --> 01:01:50,400
Lynon and uh, Benton City don't require

1661
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,960
you to pay like per record search right

1662
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,200
now.

1663
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,040
Yeah, you are. I don't think we have a

1664
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:58,000
plans of doing that.

1665
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,480
>> Perfect. Perfect. Okay. And then real

1666
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,720
quick, um, thank everybody for approving

1667
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,480
the master plan on September 1st. I

1668
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:05,599
appreciate you seeing this important

1669
01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:07,760
process move forward. Now that the board

1670
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,520
has taken that step, I respectfully ask

1671
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,599
that you also discuss and act on the

1672
01:02:11,599 --> 01:02:13,280
more Torm request I previously

1673
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,599
submitted. My concern is the township

1674
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:17,359
could continue approving major zoning

1675
01:02:17,359 --> 01:02:19,119
changes and development projects while

1676
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:20,559
residents are still waiting for an

1677
01:02:20,559 --> 01:02:22,960
opportunity to help shape the township's

1678
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,799
future. Those approvals can establish

1679
01:02:24,799 --> 01:02:27,200
land uses, densities, and infrastructure

1680
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,680
that demands that affect our community

1681
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,920
for decades. If we're asking residents

1682
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,520
to participate in developing a new

1683
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,280
master plan, we should give them the

1684
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,119
opportunity before more of the

1685
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:39,280
township's most consequential land use

1686
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,599
decisions have already been made.

1687
01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:43,440
Otherwise, we risk investing time and

1688
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,359
money in a planning process after some

1689
01:02:45,359 --> 01:02:46,960
of the available choices have already

1690
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,280
been taken off the table. So, I'm not

1691
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:50,480
asking the township to stop all

1692
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,559
development indefinitely. I'm asking the

1693
01:02:52,559 --> 01:02:53,680
board to work with the planning

1694
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,200
commission and township attorney to

1695
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,400
determine which categories of

1696
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,319
development approval can lawfully and

1697
01:02:58,319 --> 01:03:00,480
temporarily be paused while the master

1698
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,040
plan is being reviewed and rewritten.

1699
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,960
There's a recent Michigan example. On

1700
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,440
March 9th, 2026, Georgetown Township

1701
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,839
near Grand Rapids, adopted a temporary

1702
01:03:09,839 --> 01:03:11,680
moratorium while it reviewed its master

1703
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,160
plan and zoning ordinance and evaluated

1704
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,799
concerns involving traffic, electrical

1705
01:03:16,799 --> 01:03:18,799
capacity, sewers, schools, and emergency

1706
01:03:18,799 --> 01:03:20,960
services. So, I'm requesting two

1707
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,799
specific actions. One, place this

1708
01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:24,720
request on the next available township

1709
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,319
board agenda for public discussion and

1710
01:03:26,319 --> 01:03:27,520
request that the planning commission

1711
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,920
also consider it. and two, direct the

1712
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,119
township attorney to review the

1713
01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:33,520
Georgetown township moratorum ordinance

1714
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,039
and prepare a proposed temporary

1715
01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:37,520
moratorum for consideration with a clear

1716
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,160
defined scope, reasonable duration, and

1717
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,240
necessary exemptions. Thanks for your

1718
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:42,960
consideration.

1719
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:43,599
>> Thanks, Matt.

1720
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:44,480
>> Appreciate it.

1721
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,079
>> Anybody else in the audience that like

1722
01:03:46,079 --> 01:03:47,440
to address the board on agenda,

1723
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,559
non-aggenda items?

1724
01:03:50,559 --> 01:03:51,280
>> Yes, sir.

1725
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:52,000
>> How you doing?

1726
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:56,710
>> Good.

1727
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,880
Yeah, my name is Andrew Tulle, 1272

1728
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,680
Teresa Drive. Just wanted to reiterate

1729
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,039
on the previous meeting on September

1730
01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:05,920
1st, we've been working to put together

1731
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,160
a Fenton Township Development Coalition.

1732
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:09,839
We'll work with other residents to kind

1733
01:04:09,839 --> 01:04:12,160
of put this together and I've been

1734
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,000
taking the time to just understand

1735
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,520
everyone on the board, understand the

1736
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:16,799
processes because I think it's important

1737
01:04:16,799 --> 01:04:19,200
because I'm I'm fairly new to this. I've

1738
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,200
worked with other institutions to try to

1739
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:22,960
put a quorum together to understand how

1740
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,200
this all works. So this is you have to

1741
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,960
excuse as I understand the process here.

1742
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,160
But you know I'm hearing a lot of you

1743
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,480
know we're dishing out money as things

1744
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,000
changing. We got a lot of change and I'm

1745
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,880
studying the master plan from 2024

1746
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:43,119
trying to find the the best way to be a a reasonable and responsible

1747
01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:44,720
stakeholder for the upcoming

1748
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,200
transformation of of the township that's

1749
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,880
happening in front of me. Um, so I'm I'm

1750
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,920
just standing up here today just asking,

1751
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,079
you know,

1752
01:04:56,079 --> 01:04:59,280
as we move into this these changes, I'm

1753
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:00,880
not really, you know, going to discuss

1754
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,920
moratoriums and stuff like that, but how

1755
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,400
can we be more responsible as

1756
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,240
stakeholders because I don't think

1757
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:12,000
coming up here and say I'm against

1758
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,000
development. I couldn't collectively say

1759
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,599
that because development is inevitable.

1760
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:17,760
It's just how can we reasonably have a

1761
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,039
dialogue between yourselves, the zoning

1762
01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:22,720
commission

1763
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,839
that is productive. So when I work with

1764
01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:27,599
this development coalition that I'm

1765
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:29,280
trying to put together, I feel it's a

1766
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,440
stepping stone for a dialogue because

1767
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,079
now we can prepare ourselves as we put

1768
01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:36,319
ourselves out in front of you and not

1769
01:05:36,319 --> 01:05:38,240
just to sit here and arbitrarily

1770
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,400
challenge each board member and every

1771
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,400
person on the zoning commission. We're

1772
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,079
just trying to understand it. Like I

1773
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:46,079
heard a lot of numbers and I hear when

1774
01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:48,880
we passed the budget like in the

1775
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,319
beginning, but I don't truly know what

1776
01:05:50,319 --> 01:05:53,119
those mean yet. But I'm trying to

1777
01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:56,400
understand that. So I'm just asking

1778
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,520
board members as I work to understand

1779
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,440
the master plan, understand the master

1780
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,680
plan process,

1781
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,880
do we believe that

1782
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,119
this resident involvement is truly

1783
01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:11,440
important? Because I do. I think I I

1784
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,839
would like to as a township resident be

1785
01:06:13,839 --> 01:06:17,280
a part of that process productively and

1786
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,240
have productive conversations.

1787
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,960
As I lay that format out and I stand in

1788
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,680
front of you today, I'm essentially

1789
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,599
trying to ask you like let's have a

1790
01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:29,680
conversation because I can tell you as I

1791
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,440
discuss this coalition, people are

1792
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,880
interested, but the way we go about it

1793
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,799
is still very much uncollected and we

1794
01:06:38,799 --> 01:06:43,839
don't have a a lot of time like this meeting we had less than 24 hours

1795
01:06:43,839 --> 01:06:46,960
to really study the position or agenda

1796
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,640
which I don't you know I don't

1797
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,240
understand what the process of that but

1798
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,839
I will. So the question that I'm going

1799
01:06:53,839 --> 01:06:56,240
to leave and I you know I said there's a

1800
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:57,839
lot of questions that I have but I have

1801
01:06:57,839 --> 01:07:00,720
a limited time in front of you but is

1802
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:01,920
you know if we're going to update the

1803
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,760
master plan and again I think that's

1804
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,680
appropriate.

1805
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,319
We we're all have identified conditions

1806
01:07:08,319 --> 01:07:09,839
are changing and and changing and the

1807
01:07:09,839 --> 01:07:11,680
numbers seem to that we're spending

1808
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,920
money whether we needed to or we're

1809
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,480
being proactive at these changes. But

1810
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,319
you know how do we make today sure

1811
01:07:18,319 --> 01:07:22,319
today's individual development decisions

1812
01:07:22,319 --> 01:07:24,720
effective and to make sure that as we go

1813
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,039
into this process and determine

1814
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:31,520
tomorrow's master plan and get residents

1815
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,400
involved.

1816
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,720
Do we have an opport and h how do we

1817
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,960
make that opportunity available and make

1818
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:43,119
it productive? So as we go forward in

1819
01:07:43,119 --> 01:07:45,920
the RFPs and the timelines start to go

1820
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,599
out,

1821
01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:51,280
the Benton Development Coalition

1822
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,200
is something that I continue to work

1823
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,200
with and get more people involved and

1824
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,039
have more interest. And I would just ask

1825
01:07:57,039 --> 01:07:59,440
that

1826
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,319
help me understand to get the best most

1827
01:08:02,319 --> 01:08:04,799
productive information that I need to

1828
01:08:04,799 --> 01:08:06,720
help you guys make collective decisions

1829
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,000
that are relative to our community and

1830
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,599
residents can feel involved in that

1831
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:12,400
process.

1832
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:12,960
>> Thank you.

1833
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,640
very much.

1834
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,199
>> Anyone else that's present this evening?

1835
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:19,759
Yes.

1836
01:08:19,759 --> 01:08:20,640
>> How are you?

1837
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:21,679
>> Good. How are you guys?

1838
01:08:21,679 --> 01:08:22,880
>> Good.

1839
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,199
>> As promised, I thank you. Patty Con

1840
01:08:25,199 --> 01:08:28,640
Lynon Ripley Road. I've uh my reverse

1841
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,400
foyer. So, I'm going to provide this

1842
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,560
tomorrow and I'm going to do some foyer

1843
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,880
request. I did the research into the

1844
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,560
redwood and I'm interested in knowing

1845
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:37,520
and I'm going to meet with Mike and I

1846
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,679
have a copy for him as well and

1847
01:08:39,679 --> 01:08:41,120
understanding where we are in the

1848
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,440
approval status because there's still I

1849
01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:45,600
think some outstanding red flags and I

1850
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:46,799
think there were some right terms that

1851
01:08:46,799 --> 01:08:47,839
need to happen. I want to make sure

1852
01:08:47,839 --> 01:08:49,679
everybody's provided what is needed and

1853
01:08:49,679 --> 01:08:52,960
necessary because I did a headcount

1854
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,400
assessment and we're exceeding FAA

1855
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:01,520
regulations by 45 and 55%. And that's

1856
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,560
per acre and that's with the reduced

1857
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:09,120
187 units with the 1.6 calculation which

1858
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:13,040
was their target per unit. So we got to

1859
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,520
be careful. I'm a mama bear when it

1860
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,040
comes to my communities and my

1861
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,839
residents. So, as committed, I have this

1862
01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:22,560
report and I show in in lessons learned

1863
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,640
from an automotive perspective, we do a

1864
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,279
read across. So, whenever information is

1865
01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:28,960
provided from an Eagle organization,

1866
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,600
it's shared across and it's also shared

1867
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,040
up and then down within the county.

1868
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,960
Okay, any questions?

1869
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:37,839
>> Thank you very much.

1870
01:09:37,839 --> 01:09:39,440
>> Thank you guys. Appreciate the time.

1871
01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:41,199
>> Yep. Anyone else here in attendance that

1872
01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:42,239
would like to address the board on

1873
01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:44,880
agenda or non-aggenda items?

1874
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,120
Hearing none, I will move to Zoom. Is

1875
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:48,719
there anyone attending via Zoom that

1876
01:09:48,719 --> 01:09:50,719
would like to address the board on

1877
01:09:50,719 --> 01:09:53,759
agenda or non-aggenda items? If so, if

1878
01:09:53,759 --> 01:09:59,189
you could unmute.

1879
01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:02,560
Okay. Hearing none, um [clears throat]

1880
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,400
we now have to move into close session.

1881
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,480
So I will ask everyone uh that they will

1882
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:09,360
have to leave. Um

1883
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,440
uh I need a motion to recess the open

1884
01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:13,120
meeting for the purpose of convening a

1885
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:14,480
closed session to review pending

1886
01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:16,159
litigation.

1887
01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:17,760
>> I'll make that motion.

1888
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:18,239
>> Second.

1889
01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:20,239
>> Motion's been moved and seconded. Any

1890
01:10:20,239 --> 01:10:22,239
further discussion? Hearing none. Cler

1891
01:10:22,239 --> 01:10:24,400
Crew, will you please call the role?

1892
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:25,120
>> Lorraine,

1893
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:26,800
>> yes.

1894
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:27,600
>> Reed,

1895
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:28,480
>> yes.

1896
01:10:28,480 --> 01:10:29,199
>> Clark,

1897
01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:30,000
>> yes.

1898
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,920
>> I vote yes. Kesler,

1899
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,679
>> yes. Goal.

1900
01:10:33,679 --> 01:10:35,199
>> Yes.

1901
01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:35,920
>> Tucker.

1902
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,320
>> Yes.

1903
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:39,840
>> And just so you know, if you want, you

1904
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,640
can go upstairs if you want to and then

1905
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,239
come back down. We don't know how long

1906
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:46,560
we're going to be in close session. Um

1907
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,159
but you can certainly we can certainly

1908
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:50,080
send someone up to get you guys if you

1909
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,199
would like us to do that.

1910
01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:55,600
If if not, we do ask everyone that they

1911
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:05,399
would do have to leave.

1912
01:11:05,409 --> 01:11:07,429
» [snorts]