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>> me turn the mic on. Good evening

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everyone. Welcome to the Fenton board
committee meeting. This is September

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3rd, 2026. We'll begin with the pledge
of allegiance.

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roll call, please.
>> Alderman Lang

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» here.
>> Alderman Brightchef here.

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» Al Whisper here.
>> Alderman Rogers

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» here.
>> Alderwoman Hills here. Alderwoman Jokers

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here. Alder Mazerang here. Alderman
Harrell, excused, Dabson. Seven for the

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quorum. Okay. Uh,
>> mayor's comments been hot out there.

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All I can say. I guess that's why we
didn't have the uh event this evening.

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Their
>> the U farmers market. Okay. I didn't see

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where that was published or anything,
but did I miss that?

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It was on Facebook. Okay.
>> All right. Public comments. Do we have

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any public comments, Jane?
>> I have no public comments.

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» I don't see anybody in the audience that
cares.

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» Can I just speak? Can we fix that sign?
The banner is always

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» Where are we talking about?
>> Farmers Market sign. I'm just letting

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you know every time I drive past that
sign down.

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» How about How about if Uncle Joe fixes
it for permanent

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» or Yeah. Or we come up with a different
I'll take care of it.

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» But it's always bent over that you can't
even see what it is.

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» We've got to pay attention to those
things.

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» But or or just get a different kind of
that whatever it is.

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» I'll take care of it.
>> Okay.

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» Thank you.
We're going to first move to the P

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police municipal courts. Alderman Malang
is chair on that committee. Harold

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Rogers and Jokers. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
First up tonight, we have a

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consideration of request from St. Paul
for a road closure and police assistance

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for a walk-athon parade on October 30th.
Uh C827 memo from Jane. Um looks like

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it's 8:15 to 9:15 a.m. Friday, October
30th. uh requesting police assistance

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and road closures. They have
approximately 370 participants and two

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vehicles in the parade.
Start at St. Paul and Forest Null. Head

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down New Smiser Mill, heading west,
right on Woodway, continue on Woodway

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Circle, back to New Smiser Mill Road,
heading east to Forestnull Drive, and

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back up to St. Paul. Um
there any other additions to this, Jane?

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This is an annual walkathon that they
have each year and the police assistant

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um going out and back on on that.
>> Yeah.

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» Only an hour.
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» Um I just that goes right by my house. I
want to say it's obviously it's very

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well attended and the kids love it. Um I
I would I'm very much in for it. A lot

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of neighbors come out and watch them
too. So it is a fun thing for

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» Any other questions? This time I'd like
to make a motion to approve.

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» Need a second. Alderman Jokers.
>> Second.

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» Uh we have a motion by Lang, second by
Jokers. Do we have further comment? All

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in favor?
>> Opposed? Motion carries.

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» Next, we have a consideration of request
for the city to purchase cell phones for

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the business resource officers and
neighborhood policing officer. I know we

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discussed this in the past. Uh Nikki, do
you want to expand on this at all or?

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Yeah, I'll be happy to kind of kick it
off if you have any questions for the

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captain to address. Um, the police
department is requesting that the city

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uh essentially provide the funding for
three cell phones. Two for the business

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resource off the two business resource
officer positions and one for the

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neighborhood policing um officer
position. um if we were to do so what

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that is is that they would yeah they
they would procure the phones and then

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we would just reimburse them for the
cost on our monthly on our monthly bill

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um the cost is $50 per phone or $150 a
month

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» which I know we discussed this a little
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the phones with you know just it being
under our pos

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» yes our possession there would be a
city-owned phone which would fall under

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our sunshine so it's best that it's it's
it would be for police use police

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records that it's best that in their
possession

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» and when it falls under sunshine.
Explain a little bit what that creates

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for the city.
>> Um what that would create for the city

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is that if the city has the if the city
owns the cell phone, if the city

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provides the cell phone, that it would
if any records request would come in

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that we would have to be able to search
or use their their phones for those

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records requests. Whereas what they're
using it for is police business. That

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should fall under their sunshine, their
records request for their police

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business.
>> Alderman Mazerie,

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» I have a question for the captain. Um,
do most officers do they have a a phone

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issued by the St. Louis County Police? I
mean, it seems like it's almost an

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essential uh tool in today's society
that or do that most officers just rely

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on their personal cell phone if they
during the day-to-day activities.

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» No, there are very few officers uh
especially division of patrol. So, your

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commanders have one uh captains and then
some of the specialized units uh that

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are on call usually 24 hours a day. So
most of your patrolmen uh do not have a

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phone.
>> Okay. This seems like it's such an

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essential part of everyday life that
that it would be, you know, and I I

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understand the reasons why officers may
not want to use their um personal phone

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for police work um because of sunshine
stuff like that, but I just seem it

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seems like almost makes sense that all
officers would have one nowadays.

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» Sorry, I can't speak. Um
why like like what are they obviously

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they're not out there with no way to
communicate like what are they using now

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that's not working so why do you need
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» know what I mean?
>> Yeah. Um currently uh uh officer Dilks

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does have a phone that is city-owned
that you all pay for. Um and then uh the

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two what this is for is the two business
resource officers. Um, so

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the past business resource officer, I
know uh officer Carr when he left and

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went to uh personnel, they the
department had him keep that because he

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was doing background investigations on
uh applicants, police applicants. So

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that phone went with him. So Jared, so
Jared, officer Abalov and Officer

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Meyers, uh they do get a lot of calls uh
with the um the professional connection

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that they have with a lot of the
business owners. A lot of these owners,

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if a crime occurs uh over a weekend,
they call officer um Abalov and Meyers

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on their phone to report those crimes
that they don't typically call the

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officers who are working and just have
officers Abalov and Meyers respond to

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their location the next day that they're
working to to write those reports. And

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they're constantly sharing information
um information from uh surveillance

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cameras. They're sending a lot of those
by phone and obviously those personal

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phones if they are subpoenaed then they
are if they get a subpoena for that

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phone then they're out of their personal
phone. Whereas if the department would

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subpoena the phone that I the department
phone that I have then the department

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would end up giving me another phone
while that one was sitting in evidence.

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But we don't want to purchase these but
then we are going to be paying you back

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for them like right like
>> so so the way that it works if if we

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bought the phones and let them use them
we're subject to sunshine we if somebody

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comes and requests information off okay
that becomes pretty costly for the city

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and timeconuming I think the real
question here tonight that the

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» reimbursing them for the phone
>> they buy them they're phones we

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reimburse them that's the question. Do
you think that they should buy the

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phones or the city of Fenton should buy
the phones? That's the real issue

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tonight. Are are those any different
than their guns, bullets, handcuffs?

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» Are we paying the monthly payments for
the service? Are we paying the monthly

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payments to pay off the phones? Because
if we're paying off the phones, then

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we're buying the phone.
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» correct.
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» So, it's just this
>> Yeah, the phones are held by them

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instead. just goes into the the
reimbursement of the cost just goes into

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our monthly contract that we're paying
for their overall service.

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» It's an additional cost for them to have
those phones.

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» We're just buying the phone and paying
for the service.

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» You're paying $1,800 a year.
>> We're not buying the phone. It's to pay

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for their service, which is $50 a month.
>> It just says it sound like reimbursing

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them for the phones, which
>> No, no, no. It's reimbursing them

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because they're having to use because
they fall under the same as the category

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as the the city is that our phones are
typically free through the vendors. It's

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just that we have to pay our monthly
service fee like an individual does to

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have a a your cell service and it's $50
a month.

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» No different than like the vehicles. I
mean, we're not buying the vehicles, but

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we're reimbursing you guys for using
them in our area, the patrol cars.

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» Okay. I think I So, we're just we're
paying the service so that you could use

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them while you're
>> and again what I see is it helps these

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officers do their job and not have to
get calls and texts on personal cell

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phones if they needed to. So, and
officer Dils, if I'm correct, will be

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transferred over to this instead of the
city of Fenton. So, that's a benefit to

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us.
>> And also, uh it sounds like

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» and the funds would remain. So if um
officers Abelov or Myers would leave

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then obviously those phones would stay
with the with the Fenton Police

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Department and yeah they're positional
phones so they would stay with the NO

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and the two business resource officers
>> and I do like I don't know I like the

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idea that the community is so
comfortable with these

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officers that they're you know like they
it's like real personal service like a

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tap on the in the street.
>> Does that make sense?

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» Especially for our business owners.
That's the only place we really have

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issues. Knock on wood. So, it's good for
them.

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» That it kind of makes it a more
personable.

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» Well, and there's there's more features
that come with a cell phone than say a

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radio call or a dispatch or something.
They can get pictures and have a whole

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interchange of things that would be
recorded that they could write later

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that, you know. So, I I I'm for it. I
think I think it's actually a small

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price to pay to help help the guys out
there deal. So, any other questions

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this time? I'd like to make a motion to
approve.

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» Alman Rogers.
>> I second.

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» Motion by Lang, second by Rogers.
Further discussion? All in favor?

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» I opposed. Motion carries.
>> Next, we have a consideration of

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amendments to the traffic code related
to bicycles, ebikes, motorized bicycles,

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motorized play vehicles, alternative
motor vehicles, anything with wheels.

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Um, so I I believe we want to continue
this again, uh, just to make sure that

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we get this correct because there's just
so much that goes into it. Um, I mean,

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Aaron, is there anything you want to add
to this or just I know you want to be

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sure it's all correct as well. So,
>> yeah, we're still working on kind of the

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distinctions between them and why we're
making certain rules for some and not

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others.
>> Yeah, it's it's such a huge topic of

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discussion all over that it's changing
all the time. So, we don't want to do

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something and then have to go back to
the drawing board. So, at this time, I'd

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make a motion to continue. Oh, sorry.
>> I did one. I There was a couple one I

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think if we do I do I I liked what I
read. I do think we need to start

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looking at creating bike lanes in our
roads. Then we're forcing all these

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people onto the roads, which I agree
with what we're doing. Just I don't know

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how, but we might want to start looking
at putting bike lanes on the road. You

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mean striping them because they have the
right to ride right on the road now.

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» I know. But you know what I mean? Like
it really helps if you're a biker just

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to kind of and and also for cars to be
like, "Oh, that's uh the other thing is

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uh like in here it said that the the the
board was doing this, you know, for

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safety, blah blah blah." But we're I
would like it to say also for the record

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that it's is it state or federal law
Aaron that says that we have to treat

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all electric bikes like
so I think we need to put because of the

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state law saying that we have to
recognize electric bikes as regular

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bicycles. That's kind of why we're here
because we couldn't separate the two.

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Um, and then also because of the
advancement of electric bikes going from

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20 miles per hour to 40 miles per hour,
we had to do something. But I think that

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we need to put in that because of the
state law.

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It's not just
put in a pickle.

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» That's it.
>> At this time, I'd like to make a motion

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to approve.
>> Sorry to continue. Sorry to continue.

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» Continue. Alderman Jokers.
>> I second.

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» Motion by Lang, second by Jokers.
Further discussion. All in favor?

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» I oppose. Motion carries. Finally, we
have a consideration of a request for

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the city to purchase integrated
biometric devices. Uh we have a memo

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from officer Dilks. Um but Nikki, do you
have anything to add to this? A little

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bit of explanation.
>> Yeah, I can just add to this for anybody

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who was on the board. The the
conversation regarding live scan a few

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years ago regarding the large device
that would need to come in. Um as as

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technology has evolved, um they're now
able to provide essentially the same

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technology on a tablet. It's a onetime
cost of a little over 2,000 per unit um

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that are hand basically handheld devices
that will provide the police with what

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they need to take in the fingerprinting
um and provide it to the the central uh

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then they're able to provide it to the
courts because this is beneficial both

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to our courts and to our police, not
just the police uh for these devices to

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exist. Um, it also allows them to catch
fingerprinting on nights where the um,

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defendants may show up and haven't had
their necessary fingerprinting done and

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um, abided by what requirements were.
So, they would be able to catch them on

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that. Um and a lot of it has to do with
at this point they are seeking two

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devices. Um both to of course be used on
courtnite but one may become mobile with

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the traffic officer due to the fact that
many of those are the violations that

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they need the fingerprinting um before
before release and and now they have to

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require the courts have to send them a
letter that states you need to go have

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this done before your court date and the
likelihood of that happening usually is

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slum to none. So but I I the captain
would be happy. I do know that we are

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requesting to purchase these. However,
the county is going to be getting a

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trial with them to make sure that they
integrate seamlessly. Um, so I think

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what we would do is we would go ahead
and pass this because we have another

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hoop we would need to go through because
we would essentially be donating these

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to the police department and they would
have to be accepted as a donation by the

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county. So, it's going to be a bit of a
process. It's going to be 30 days on our

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end, about 30 days on their end. And in
the meantime, they are going to be um

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going through a trial with the uh
Missouri State Highway Patrol um just to

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make sure that these are meeting all of
their needs in real life um before we

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would uh go ahead and just make the
purchase. So, but we like I said, it's

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going to take us a while to to pass the
ordinance and then also to go to the

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county for them to approve the
donations.

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» But overall, this makes life for our
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» It is it's it's it serves on both sides.
It saves the time of them having to send

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the letters and our post our postage
time spent with that and then the police

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getting the documents they need are
required to obtain um for certain

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violations.

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» I believe that includes suspended
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» Couple questions. So if we do the
donation, it'll be like the cell phone

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where it'll stay with the city of Fenton
even though we donate it

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» and then
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» it'll stay. Oh, so maybe I should Yeah,
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it stays with the precinct.
>> I'm not an expert on how all the

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donation works. I know uh Eric um
is Nurowitz.

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» Yeah, that's right. um uh had a meeting
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that that would be the best way to do
it. Um so yes, but they would stay they

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would stay here.
>> Yeah, they would.

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» We can make that a condition.
>> And then what was the part I didn't get

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the part about the mo one would be
mobile, one would not be.

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» Oh, what we were saying is that at some
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be able to actually use it on the road,
it would be mobile something that he

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could have in his car to utilize to
capture the data that he did. And that

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way
just in case. So one would be in the

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courts in case a traffic officer didn't
get the fingerprints for somebody that

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showed up and didn't have them.
Otherwise he gets it done and it's done

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ahead of time no matter what.
>> Sorry. I was thinking was one was not

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mobile. So it was like a fix to
something. The other was mobile.

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» No, they're they're both mobile. They're
just about twice the size of a of a of

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your iPhone. Um it's just a
>> the mobile device that uh takes those

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prints and then sends those prints over
to the highway patrol. Um and yes, we're

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going to do our highway safety unit is
supposed there. This is I don't think

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it's technology that's supposed to come
out until like January. Um but I don't

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know exactly when. I know a lot of
emails have been passed around to see

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when the testing evaluation phase will
will begin. I haven't had a concrete uh

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answer regarding that. But uh we're
going to test and evaluate the devices

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prior to any purchase to make sure they
integrate with u the different IT

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systems to make sure they download
properly and that they they are

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compatible.

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» Thank you. Any other questions?
>> Uh just uh so I guess first quick

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question, no subscription, right? Just a
flat purchase, one-time purchase and

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they have some reasonable useful life,
maybe a couple years or something like

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that. Yeah.
>> Okay. Back.

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» So, okay. Well, then
>> 12 month warranty.

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» Okay. So, um and then um Oh, lost the
other one. It was um So, is this

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something that we expect is going to be
good or should we wait until they

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confirm that it's good or is that
something that

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» I would definitely wait until the um the
testing evaluation phase is completed

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that they are compatible units. um that
we don't have any flaws with

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compatibility with the internet systems.
Um they've assured us that it should be

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a smooth process with that, but
>> obviously we're going to do a test and

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evaluation before before the because I
think the department is going to

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purchase some too. I know our highway
safety, like I said, our highway safety

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unit is wanting some of those as well.
Um, and currently there there are

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fingerprintable offenses and a couple of
those are like driving while revoked,

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driving while suspended. Necess normally
we don't arrest uh someone for driving

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while suspended. Um, but it is a
fingerprintable offense where we have to

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obtain those fingerprints. Um, so this
and and just like Nikki said that uh I

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know Michelle and the courts is uh has
to send those letters out repeatedly and

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the compliance on someone coming to
court with the fingerprints um usually

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doesn't happen. So I'm in favor of um as
long as it's going to work though. Um

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» yeah, we're not purchasing unless we
know it works, but this is kind of to

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approve that if it's all good, we will
Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

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Okay.
>> But I'll I'll get with the attorney

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though. Should we wait until they tell
us to go on this sending it to the

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county because at that point it might
just be

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» I mean I think before sending to the
county but I think we can move forward

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with it and authorize you to move
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» and then as soon as they're comfortable
we can send it to the county then for

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approval for donation.
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» thank you captain. Oh sorry.
>> Oh no. Uh, at this time I'd like to make

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a motion to approve.
>> Alderman Jokers.

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» I'll second.
>> Motion by Lang, second by Jokers.

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Further discussion. All in favor? I
oppose. Motion carries. That's all I

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have tonight, Mr. Mayor. We're going to
move to personnel. Alderman Hules on the

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committee. Lang, Whisbrock, Jokers.
>> Thank you, sir. Um, first item is the

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third quarter achievement awards. I have
a memo from Jane Hungler. Each year on a

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quarterly basis, the city recognizes all
employees who have achieved five-year

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milestones. Full-time employees will
receive $10 per year of service. This

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quarter we are recognizing the following
July, August and September anniversary

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for 2026. Rob Brink 5 years and Andre
and Nikki Frinkbinder 20 years. The

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achievement and gift certificate will be
presented at the September 24th board of

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alderman meeting.

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Next item is consideration of amendments
to the job description for bookkeeper,

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accounting, administrative support, and
administrative assistant at city hall.

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We have a memo from Jane Hungler.

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on these job descriptions. Um, since we
have the vacancy now in the bookkeeper

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admin support, um, we want to make that
a part-time flex position and we would

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like to make the administrative um,
assistant um, a full-time position.

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Anybody have any questions?
We're just kind of flipping it around.

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We
Anybody have any questions? If not, uh,

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and I see you're asking for a final
motion so that we can get this

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advertised.
>> Okay. I'd like to make a final motion to

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change it to the part-time flex
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» Pardon me.
>> Sorry. I make a motion to open it up to

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the full board.
>> Okay. Second. Alderman Rogers. Yes.

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» Okay.
>> He's not.

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» I'm sorry. You're not on that committee.
Uh, Whisbrock.

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» Second.
>> Motion by uh heel uh heels. Second by

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Whisbrock for to open up to the full
board. All in favor? Opposed? Motion

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carries.
>> Now, I'd like to make a final motion to

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uh make this a part-time flex so we can
start getting it advertised.

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» Okay. Alderman Rogers.
>> I second.

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» All right. Motion by Hu, second by
Rogers. Further discussion. All in

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favor? Opposed? Motion carries.
>> The last item I have is a request for

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the 2026 employee lunchon. I've got a
memo from Aaron Gravel. Uh

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traditionally, the city of Fenton has an
annual employee appreciation lunchon in

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December. Last year, the event was held
on Friday, December 5th in the former

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library space. If approved by the board
for this year, staff is suggesting the

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lunchon will be held on Friday, December
4th in the former library space. Upon

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approval, a catering will be determined
by staff. This event is budgeted under

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line item and uh we something we do
every year requires a motion. I'd make

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this motion.
>> Okay. Alderman

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Joker. I saw your hand up first, sir.
>> I'll second it.

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» Motion by second by Joker. Further
discussion. All in favor? Opposed?

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Motion carries. All I have
>> uh community development and affairs,

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Alderman Rogers, along with Brit Shaft,
Herald, and Mazerang.

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» Thank you, Mayor. I have nothing for
discussion tonight. Thank you.

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» Okay. Uh we're going to move capital
improvements, Alderman Mazarang, Bright

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Shaft, Herald, and Heels.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The first item up

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for discussion is uh a memo from uh who
is this from? It's from Nikki. So, um,

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so it is, uh, basically the bid opening
for the 2026 park path improvement

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project was held on August 27th. The
city received three bids for the project

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with Spencer Contracting submitting the
lowest and most responsive bid for 140

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thou 440,376,000.

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Um, the EMR contracting was the second
lowest bid at $148,780.

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Um the project will consist of removal
replacement identified areas asphalt

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repair within the Fenton City Park
greenway, Marramac Greenway, uh Valley

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Park, and a section of the Marramac
Greenway to be overlaid. See that

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attached to project specifications. Um I
guess at that at I guess I have a

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question about this. Some of the areas I
know in the back of the park people have

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complained about them holding mud and
water and stuff. I I guess that is

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addressing these issues and uh bringing
the grade up on them and stuff.

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» Yep. Okay, Susan,
>> I did have a question. Um, this is

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obviously for these specific areas, but
just something to for the future, the

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path behind the Y that goes down to
Westside Park. Um, the Bermuda grass is

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really eating into that path and
starting to to eat it up.

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We probably need to look at treating
that.

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» Yeah. And and if anybody else, Nikki,
would you ask uh whoever, I don't know

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if it's Dan, the contractor, in a lot of
these areas, the reason that we're going

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to have to replace it is the uh roots
are pushing the asphalt up. Is that are

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those roots removed? Are those going to
damage the trees? You know what? But I

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think the roots should should go away.
And I I didn't read anything in there

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that would indicate that. So, would you
make a footnote?

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» Follow up on that. Any other questions?
And I see the bids are a bit more than

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we had budgeted. So it looks like we
would have to amend the current budget.

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But uh I guess at this uh time I would
make a motion that we go with uh Spencer

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Contracting the lowest bid.
>> Alman Huels.

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» I'll second.
>> Motion by Maserang. Second by Huels.

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Further discussion. All in favor?
Opposed? Motion carries.

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» All right. Next item is the bid opening
for the 2026 joint crack sealing

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services will be held on September 3rd
and it was held. So here we have uh a

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new memo. Um the city held the bid
opening for the 2026 joint crack sealing

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program on September 3rd. Eight
contractors uh received uh copy

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requested copies of the bid packet with
three submitting bids. Sweet and ceiling

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service submitted the lowest responsive
bid ofund or $10,74.

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The next lowest bid was from parking lot
maintenance at $11,753.

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The the locations to be sealed uh this
year include Cassin's Drive, Fen Corp

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Drive, Oello Drive, Alvarado Drive, and
San Martin Drive, the south side. Uh any

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questions? What
>> uh I do I do want to mention would you

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uh ask Dan about uh Riverside and Forest
Null. I know that's been done, but there

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are areas that it has come up and we
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Sweden's who did work last year.
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I don't know if I would go with Sweden's
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» Right. I have the same sentiments. We
had discussions I think publicly about

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the the work was bad and it wasn't
complete and we thought u we weren't

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happy with them. And so to to turn
around and give them another contract, I

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think is pretty pretty silly on our
part, even if it means paying a little

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more.
>> I I would echo those two comments uh

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myself. There's other locations where
Sweetens did it last year. It didn't

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seem to stick. They didn't seem to clean
out the crack uh before the uh seal went

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in.
>> Uh Terry and uh Jimmy, can you refresh?

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Your your streets are all concrete or
they overlaid with asphalt? I'm trying

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to remember.
>> No, they're solid concrete. solid

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concrete. Okay. Just trying to get the
what the base is. Any other questions?

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So, does it sound like we want to go try
someone different with uh parking lot

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maintenance?
I'll make a motion that we go with

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parking lot maintenance for the $11,753.
>> Okay. We need Alderman Brit.

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» I would second that.
>> Motion by Mazang, second by Bright

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Shaff. Further discussion? Yes, sir.
>> Do we need to So, we're not going with

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the lowest bid on this. Do we need to do
anything?

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» No. I mean, your discussion was enough.
You you are finding them the lowest,

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best, most responsive bidder, which you
were allowed to do. You do not have to

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go with the lowest.
>> You know, I I think that uh yeah, the

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motion is there.
>> Uh if Dan feels uncomfortable or has a

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different attitude, then he can
certainly talk to us before meeting and

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we, you know, we can take that under
advisement, but I think this is what the

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board's looking at. I don't know that I
necessarily disagree because I think

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last year there were a lot of areas in
the Riverside subdivision that I saw

409
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:55,360
that had come up relatively quick and it
wasn't after the snow plowing

410
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,600
» and the price is negligible. So the
difference

411
00:28:55,919 --> 00:29:02,080
» so all in favor
>> opposed motion carries.

412
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:05,919
» And the final item I have tonight is uh
consideration of the bid for back stop

413
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,840
repairs at the Fenton Sport Complex.
Staff requested quotes for two vendors

414
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,200
uh from two vendors for backs stop
repairs at the Fenton Sports Complex

415
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,720
Elite, which was currently have an on
call contract, submitted a quote of

416
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,799
$18,560.
A quote was also requested from J&J

417
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:27,440
Fence, which staff has had good
experience with, quoted $15,25.

418
00:29:24,399 --> 00:29:30,640
With both quotes being over the $15,000
threshold, staff is asking to weigh the

419
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:36,559
formal bidding procedures and award the
contract to J&J Fence. If approved, the

420
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:40,240
uh um the the capital plan under back
stop repairs with the budget amount

421
00:29:37,919 --> 00:29:44,000
would need to be amended. Any questions?
>> Yeah.

422
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:50,240
» But no, it was at 40,000. The bids came
in at 15 and

423
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:53,679
» Oh, so it would not or no?
>> No, it would not need to be amended. The

424
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:59,679
» budget 40,000.
>> Okay. I lower

425
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:03,360
» I and I probably am getting all of our
sports

426
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:08,080
updates
confused, but I could have sworn that we

427
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,000
just had these back stops done. Or was
that

428
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:15,760
» fencing?
>> There were some at the sports complex

429
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:17,120
that were re repenced by uh Chesterfield
fence and deck.

430
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:21,520
» Yeah.
>> So, these these are some these are

431
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:25,360
additional ones and they're probably in
worse shape. And the one thing that we

432
00:30:23,679 --> 00:30:30,080
talked about today when we were meeting
with Dan is we want to do a fix to where

433
00:30:28,399 --> 00:30:35,600
it doesn't happen again. We're going to
add additional support because most of

434
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:40,080
those are where they run into it. Um so
we we want to make sure that we don't

435
00:30:37,679 --> 00:30:43,840
have that reoccurrence. So they're going
to do a little bit more to reinforce

436
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:47,679
that so we don't have to keep coming
back. We got to think a little pro

437
00:30:45,679 --> 00:30:50,960
proactively. And most of a lot of this
is for the Fenton Sports Complex where

438
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:56,320
that fencing was there when we purchased
it and both and had gone underwater

439
00:30:52,799 --> 00:31:01,919
during the 15 and 17 floods. So a lot of
>> Yeah. But we we spent quite a bit every

440
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:06,320
year in um back stops because we have to
repair replace areas, but they're

441
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,880
they're all in need.
>> The kids run into it. They hang the bats

442
00:31:08,159 --> 00:31:13,440
on it.
>> Well, there's no there's no support, you

443
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:15,360
know, a foot high and naturally it's
going to give

444
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,799
» all those it's it's the same at
Lindwood. We had a fence around the main

445
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,960
stadium. Soccer balls hit across
everything and they bend in. I mean,

446
00:31:20,159 --> 00:31:24,880
it's just
>> we're going to make that not happen. So,

447
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:29,679
» with with the uh I mean, we probably
have 15 back stops between the two parks

448
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:33,360
or more. I mean, so there we didn't get
them all. And typically back stops take

449
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,720
a lot of abuse even just from foul tips,
everything, bats, and all that stuff.

450
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,440
So, um
>> Okay,

451
00:31:37,679 --> 00:31:45,440
» Robin, did you have a question? Oh,
okay. Uh any other uh Okay. Any other

452
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:50,399
questions? All right. All right. At this
time, I'd make a motion that we go with

453
00:31:47,679 --> 00:31:52,640
uh uh who are we going with? Uh
>> J&J.

454
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:54,080
» J&J. Yeah, J&J.
>> Bright.

455
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,840
» I would second.
>> Motion by Maserang, second by Brightch.

456
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,399
Further discussion. All in favor?
>> Opposed? Motion carries.

457
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:04,320
» All I have the night, Mr. Mayor.
>> Public works, forestry. Alderman Brit,

458
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:08,240
Whisbrock, Rogers, and Maserang.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This evening, we

459
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:13,840
have two things to discuss. Uh the first
being uh consideration of a request to

460
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:19,120
seek bids for the 2027 grass cutting
services. And I have a memo from Dan.

461
00:32:16,159 --> 00:32:22,960
Um, with the current staffing level at
public works, we hear that a lot. Below

462
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:26,880
what is needed to accomplish weekly
activities provided by public works,

463
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:33,840
including park and street maintenance.
Um, there are 16 parcels that we are uh

464
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:37,519
seeking bids.
Yeah, we're seeking bids. We're not

465
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:45,200
looking at one specific contractor.
Okay. Uh to take care of these areas uh

466
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:48,399
next cutting season in 2027. Um
I have a question about this one and

467
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:56,240
it'll also roll over as the same
question for the second item this

468
00:32:50,320 --> 00:33:01,840
evening and that is um if we were to get
our manpower up more would we not need

469
00:32:59,919 --> 00:33:06,720
these contract and are if these
contracts are written as such that we

470
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:12,320
say yes we're going to use you or we're
only going to use you in case we need

471
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:16,799
you or how does that how does that work
>> because What I'm envisioning is that we

472
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:22,159
say, "Yeah, it's obvious we need help
cutting these 16 areas, but between now

473
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:25,760
and then, we get four or five more guys
and we're able to do it ourselves. What

474
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,440
do What do we do with this contract?"
>> Can I Can I throw in here now? I I don't

475
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:34,320
I don't think with the number of people
that we have, I I honestly think we need

476
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:39,760
to concentrate on our streets more than
our grass and our parks. I really do. I

477
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,919
think that what we need to look at,
we're kind of discussing a little bit

478
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:49,840
internally until we figure something out
with the board. So, Steve Meyers, Steve

479
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:54,159
Stevens, you know, um maybe it's time
that he needs a few full-time people

480
00:33:51,919 --> 00:34:01,760
instead of part-time. The reason I say
that is you Jane told us today she had

481
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:07,600
149 uh resumes. Out of that, they they
weeded down to about 12. And how many

482
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:12,240
did you have that responded? So since we
started advertising for that position in

483
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:21,040
January of this year, we overall have
received 149 applications

484
00:34:15,359 --> 00:34:26,720
and we um hired the first round of of
our applicants who are now, you know,

485
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:32,240
into their season and we have no staff
there. So, we have reached out to 12

486
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:37,440
selected uh candidates out of the
leftover pool that was there and have

487
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:42,879
had no response.
>> We uh Go ahead.

488
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:48,639
» So, since I've been on the board,
our public works department has been

489
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:53,119
short. I mean, just I do not see in the
next year or two that all of a sudden

490
00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:59,760
people are going to be like, I want to
work for Fen. be nice, but let's we got

491
00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:04,560
to be realistic about this and that the
reality that all of a sudden we're going

492
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:08,720
to get five or six people that are going
to stay because we hire and then a

493
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:14,560
couple of months later somebody quit.
So, I think that if we actually have a

494
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:19,440
couple months where we have too many
public works or we got people mowing the

495
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:24,240
lawn, then we can actually use our
public works for other stuff that has

496
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:29,599
not been done because we're so short
staff. So, I I don't have a problem with

497
00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:34,000
signing a contract for a year or two and
actually having too many people.

498
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:39,599
» Okay. And my my question I think is
legitimate. I mean, if we sign and we're

499
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:42,800
committed, but then we hire guys then
>> um we could do the work ourselves. How

500
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:46,560
how does that work? And
>> so Terry, that's where I'm I'm trying to

501
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:51,520
point out. So with this alternative
Fenton City Park common ground area, if

502
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:56,560
because that's what our guys mainly take
a lot of time in doing every week that

503
00:35:54,480 --> 00:36:00,240
would open them up to do more of the
street stuff. And I can't predict how

504
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:04,000
many more people we're going to hire. It
doesn't look like we're going to hire

505
00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:10,640
many. We we have one that has been
offered a job today. Uh no, not yet. It

506
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:13,920
hasn't, but it's it's coming that way.
But I I I hear what you're saying.

507
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:18,400
You're saying, you know, how where are
we going to put a stop at the public

508
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:24,880
works if we hire this all done? Um, not
necessarily, but I just want to know if

509
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:29,200
I was a if I was a contractor, grass
cutting contractor, and you guys came to

510
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:33,520
me and and I won a bid and I geared up
manpower-wise and then all of a sudden

511
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:36,240
you told me, "H, no, we got enough guys.
We don't need you now." That that

512
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,440
wouldn't be right here. So, I went into
Ohio contract was going to be worded.

513
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,599
I'm not saying we don't need to cut the
grass. I agree. We need to cut the

514
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,839
grass,
>> but I'm just But these contracts are

515
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:50,800
limited, right? It's not It's not We're
not saying we're going to have you mow

516
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:53,200
the grass for the next 20 years. It's
>> Yeah, it's just

517
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:56,400
» 27.
>> Yeah, it's just for one year.

518
00:36:54,720 --> 00:37:01,040
» I think Dan has stated before in the
past, too. If it's awful dry or what and

519
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:05,280
we don't need the grass cut, he can tell
them not to do it and we're not built

520
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:08,640
for it, right? It's Yeah. So, I mean,
would really be no different if if you

521
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:12,960
say we don't need you to cut it because
we got enough manpower. I mean,

522
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:17,680
» I don't see what the difference is if he
told him not to cut it.

523
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:22,000
That doesn't happen often though.
>> I believe that you're talking about as

524
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:25,200
needed. So if it's super dry or whatever
else, it's as needed cuz Dan calls them

525
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:27,599
tells them to cut.
>> If we got our own guys, it's not needed

526
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:32,320
by them.
>> Great.

527
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:36,640
» But but if anything, we'll actually have
somebody mowing the grass and then our

528
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:41,040
guys can
paint something that has needed to be

529
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:44,480
painted for the last 20 years. Yeah.
>> Some of this is logistic, too. I mean

530
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:48,320
these these are scattered all over and
it's a little tougher to run from one to

531
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:54,240
the other to the other as opposed to
having a contractor with is mobile you

532
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:58,560
know. So uh any other
>> So I do want to point out we had a

533
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:04,079
little discussion this afternoon Robin
uh Nikki and Dan and I about uh trying

534
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:10,000
to do much as he's suggesting in the
next uh item which is the snow removal.

535
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:14,560
trying to find several smaller companies
to do it and spread that out a little

536
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:18,800
bit.
So, it's what we wanted to do the last

537
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:22,160
go round,
>> but I don't think we advertised or

538
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:27,200
pushed it that well instead of having
just one big company and that company

539
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:30,960
just was recently bought out and the
service hasn't been all that great.

540
00:38:29,359 --> 00:38:33,839
» Oh, so you're saying maybe the same way
with the grass cutting couple?

541
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,920
» Yes. Okay,
>> that's a good idea. You want to add

542
00:38:35,359 --> 00:38:41,119
anything, Nick? So, no. I I think we all
agree with splitting it up to zones is

543
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:45,359
starting to get become a very large
contract that could be difficult for um

544
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:50,000
you know, not everybody is going to be
able to fill those shoes. So, to drive

545
00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:53,520
hopefully some more bids is that we're
going to break it up into zones. And

546
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:58,720
then if they can bid at all, great. But
if they can only bid zone one, zone two,

547
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:02,400
zone three, zone four, that we also
understand that too. or we may even just

548
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:05,280
do it by parcel and look at who's the
best on each parcel and they'll

549
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:09,119
understand with the bid package that we
have the the choice to go all cart

550
00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:12,880
» and I think you're going to get better
service that way because nobody's going

551
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,760
to say oh I'm turning down that massive
contract like they're going to take it

552
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:18,240
whether they can do it or not if it's
smaller it's going to be a lot easier to

553
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,359
manage
>> understanding though we do have to draw

554
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,839
the line though that we can't be
expected to follow 14 different

555
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:28,480
contractor
>> right it's a little

556
00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:31,280
» does so so um the fear the last time
though is going out that way though it

557
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,960
might drive up your prices because they
go, "Wow, if I'm having to go mobile and

558
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,960
I'm only getting these three small
parcels, I'm not going to want the

559
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:42,400
contract." So, um, but we're going to
we're going to try to find a way to just

560
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:47,599
like the snow plowing, zoning it
possibly to where it more palatable, but

561
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:51,280
smaller areas to where it might be for
contractors versus

562
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,160
» my daughters are costing me a lot. I can
sign them up for a parcel or two.

563
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:59,839
» There you go.
>> Okay. Any other discussion? And I am

564
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:04,560
comfortable making a motion to seek bids
for grass cutting for 2027.

565
00:40:01,839 --> 00:40:08,079
» Need a second. Maserang Rogers.
>> Sure, I'll second.

566
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,800
» We have We have a motion by Bright
Shaff, second by Maserang. We have

567
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:14,160
further discussion. All in favor?
>> I motion carries.

568
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:19,520
» Just because that's a bid that will be a
fine to be a final this evening. It's

569
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:25,520
just allowing staff to go out to bid.
>> Okay. All right. So then the um the

570
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:30,079
second item is to talk about snow
plowing on under the same premise as

571
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:35,280
what we just discussed grass cutting. Um
so does anybody have any questions or

572
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:39,359
discussion on that?
And I make a motion that we seek bids

573
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,119
for the snow snow removal when it
happens.

574
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:43,599
» Alderman Rogers.
>> I second.

575
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,320
» Motion by Bright Shaff, second by
Rogers. We have further discussion. All

576
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:48,560
in favor?
>> Opposed? Motion carries.

577
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:51,520
» That'll do it this evening.
>> All right. We have no information

578
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:56,480
services. So, we'll move to
miscellaneous. First is uh consideration

579
00:40:54,400 --> 00:41:01,119
of quotes for repairs at 900 Gregory
Lane. Who wants to lead?

580
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:04,400
» Oh,
I'll be happy to kind of kick it off. Is

581
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:08,079
that I I just want you to in front of
you though are the additional quotes

582
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:11,760
that we we happen to receive from
another company yesterday. um they're

583
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:16,400
pretty close to what Elite provided
except for the fact that with Elite they

584
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:21,040
would also be bricking in the window
areas to at least make it somewhat

585
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:25,839
decorative versus plywood um to be a
little more secure around those windows.

586
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:32,160
Um but again, it's to replace most of
those doors up there that are wooden um

587
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:38,160
with metal stronger metal doors.
>> Uh Susan and Terry

588
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:42,960
» um I How long has this building been
just sitting there? I kind of I love

589
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:50,160
this building. I would love to see it
repurposed. I'd love to see instead of

590
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:58,720
us spending money to whitewash it and
and put new metal doors on it and put

591
00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:04,640
decorative plywood on it. Like either we
do something with it, we repurpose it,

592
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:09,760
or we tear it down. But it's not to sit
there and keep,

593
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:14,800
you know, doing these little repairs
does not make sense. And I would love

594
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:19,119
I'd love to repurpose it. If there's
something that we can do with it, great.

595
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:23,040
But or we need to look at tearing it
down. Maybe put a splash bed. You know,

596
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:28,079
I love splash beds. But anyway, I'm just
throwing that out there.

597
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:31,359
» Mary, uh, Susan, you pretty much stole
everything I was going to say.

598
00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:35,680
» Sorry. Um,
I I can't see spending a nickel on the

599
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:39,520
place unless we have a reason or a
purpose for that building in the future.

600
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:43,200
And we keep since I've been on the
board, it's come up a few times and we

601
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:47,440
kind of just blew it off. But I but
every day that goes by, that thing

602
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:51,280
deteriorates more. Um, we have no
conditioning there now. There's no

603
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:54,880
electric there. So, the inside just
falling apart. I actually went up there

604
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:59,760
today after receiving this email
yesterday from Nikki on the quotes cuz I

605
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:06,079
wanted to see firsthand what those doors
look like and and you know where they

606
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:10,640
were and what the options were. Um and I
I can't get past the rest of the

607
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:13,680
building. I looked at the front walkway
to the front entrance and it's like

608
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:17,760
Marramck Caverns. There's still
stellagmites hanging down from things

609
00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:25,119
that are leaking up there. Roofs that
are leaking. um flashing that's leaking

610
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:31,920
that building needs I would like to look
at one what it would take to put that

611
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:35,680
building back in service with an idea of
what we're going to do with it or two

612
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:42,400
what it would cost to tear it down put
it back to green space I looked at it

613
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:46,480
today in the perspective of
couple thing I'm going to I'm going to

614
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:51,200
step back for a second I'm kind of
embarrassed that I said yes when we

615
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:56,240
decided to spend the money on that
parking lot up there

616
00:43:53,839 --> 00:44:00,079
because I was against spending any money
for that building or surrounding area

617
00:43:58,319 --> 00:44:04,560
until I heard that it would be a great
parking lot for the the new playground

618
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:10,240
and immediately I changed my mind and
said yes without looking into it. Today

619
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:14,480
I walked that area and I thought to
myself, okay, if we fix this parking

620
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:19,680
lot, what's it going to take to get up
to the playground?

621
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:24,160
It's anybody with a stroller or a young
child is walking with hand is going to

622
00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:28,880
have to walk all the way down the hill
to Gregory away from the playground back

623
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:34,880
up Gregory all the way to the bathroom
to the new uh sidewalk and then up to

624
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:41,599
the playground. That's like an eighth of
a mile. But there's that it is also

625
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:47,200
right across from what will be the
Stonegate Park where people can just

626
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:50,960
walk up that new that street there.
>> Oh no, that's that's further up. That's

627
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,839
about halfway between.
>> No, it's by that it's right across from

628
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:57,200
the parking lot.
>> That'll have its own parking lot also.

629
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:01,040
» Yeah. So smaller one.
>> So I'm envisioning that, too. But I

630
00:44:59,359 --> 00:45:05,280
think people in Stonegate are not going
to they're probably going to drive down

631
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:10,000
and need a place to park. But anyway,
I'm I'm I'm getting off track here. I'm

632
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:14,240
losing my train of thought. Um I wish I
would have stuck to my guns and said no

633
00:45:11,359 --> 00:45:17,680
on that parking lot because I feel like
we're throwing money there. We're

634
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:21,200
throwing money away there, too. Well, I
realized when I drove up it today that I

635
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:25,200
went through potholes, it is terrible,
but the fact that we're going to redo

636
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:30,319
that and it's it's already in the works.
So, it's it's p past the point of no

637
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:34,480
return, right? Um,
but it's it's silly to throw any more

638
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:40,640
money at that building unless we have a
a purpose for that building. And I'm all

639
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:45,040
for using it something or something that
that that building works for. I don't

640
00:45:43,359 --> 00:45:48,960
think there's a lot of different things
that are that building is really good

641
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:54,079
for. It's pretty much one one use and
it's for jails, right? But somebody

642
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:58,560
could come up with something. The fact
that we would it would have to be us

643
00:45:55,839 --> 00:46:04,000
though. the fact that we would maybe put
fix it up, put it on the market, then we

644
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:07,359
got somebody living between what we own
here and what we own up there. And I

645
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,560
don't think that's a good idea either.
So, if I'm getting off track, I

646
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,280
apologize.
Who's next?

647
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:16,800
» Well, I was just going to say it's too
bad we don't have someone with vision

648
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:20,000
like that, Bob Cassley with City Museum
that could repurpose it, you know, make

649
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:26,720
something cool out of it.
But so here's a thought that just came

650
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:34,079
to me is you know we have all this stuff
at public works which is on the other

651
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:42,000
side of the city. What if we gutted this
building out and created a couple salt

652
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:49,200
bins, mulch bins, a place to park some
trucks. I what? But it might be an

653
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:53,839
option to just gut it out and sounds
like it has all this concrete there, but

654
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:58,440
maybe we could build a garage or
something to store some public works.

655
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:07,119
Just a thought, but I'd love to save the
building if we could. I I love that.

656
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:11,200
Uh, so yeah. So my comment is I, you
know, I think tonight we're looking at

657
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:15,839
securing the building because I've heard
we've got people that get in and you

658
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:18,960
know that could cause a hazard or if
they get hurt while they're inside the

659
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:22,240
building because we didn't secured it,
then they could come back at the city of

660
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:26,720
Fenton, right, and come after us for
something. So I I'm for securing the

661
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:30,960
building. I don't disagree. We need to
get something on the calendar to have

662
00:47:29,359 --> 00:47:36,640
further discussion about what we could
do with that. Um, I do like maybe using

663
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:40,720
it for storage. Uh, public works, we
definitely have a lot of equipment that

664
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:45,119
sits outside, uh, during the wintertime,
uh, that we sits outside. We don't have

665
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:49,680
enough indoor storage. We looked at one
point in time increasing the building

666
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:53,280
over at public works. That's a pretty
big ticket item when maybe this building

667
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:57,599
up there could be used for some of that.
If we brick in some of it, put a garage

668
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,480
door in, they could put lawnmowers or
whatever else in there for the winter

669
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:04,400
time, right? Or whatever else we're
going to do. Um, so yes, I think get

670
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,839
something on the thing, but I'm for
securing the building tonight.

671
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,920
» I I'd just like to say I don't know if
some of the stuff from I called the

672
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,760
mayor about a week and a half, two weeks
ago. I was walking my kids up to the new

673
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:17,440
park and the doors were busted open. The
window I know there was somebody in

674
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:20,400
there. Um, obviously didn't go in
because it was my family, but I think

675
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:24,319
that is what some of this stem from. It
does need to be, you know, you don't

676
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:28,079
know who's living in there or what's
going on in there. And it's right next

677
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:32,000
to a playground that we just built. So,
I do think we need to better secure that

678
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:39,040
building right now.
>> So, secure it with the caveat that it's

679
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:43,440
time we do something with it.
>> So, I was just going to I was just going

680
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:48,480
to tag on to that too, you know. Um I
was with Terry today and we walked that

681
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:55,280
around the building twice, by the way.
100 degree weather, you know, but I I

682
00:48:51,599 --> 00:49:01,440
think the time has come that
we get serious. Get get Cochran in. Can

683
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:06,079
the front of that building One thing I I
thought, well, where the where the

684
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:11,359
concrete where the blocks are, the glass
blocks, can we can we remove that and

685
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:18,720
structurally will it stand make a
pavilion out of that? Um, like you say,

686
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:24,000
uh, storage for moors or something. I I
don't know. But it's time. I think I

687
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:28,480
think let's just get on it and start see
what it would cost to tear it down. See

688
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:33,200
what it would cost. The bids aren't
really that expensive to get. Get some

689
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:39,599
ideas from Cochran how structurally
support what we can do to to cut out.

690
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:44,400
» Just to to add on, I think um the
security is an issue. So, but however,

691
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:48,640
since the future's uncertain, maybe we
go to the minimal amount of we don't

692
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:54,559
spend a lot any more money than we have
to just to lock it up.

693
00:49:51,280 --> 00:50:01,440
So my idea, Nikki, um I think three of
the doors are in the on either side of

694
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:03,599
the bay where police offic used to drive
and then the fourth one is the front

695
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:06,839
door.
>> That correct?

696
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,040
» So it doesn't.

697
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:22,680
» Okay. Those double doors.
>> Yes.

698
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:36,240
I was thinking something on the lines of
boarding boarding the windows up and

699
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:38,000
» it's not Yeah, it's
>> get in the wood. The wood doesn't last

700
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,480
very long.
>> Ripped it off.

701
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:49,280
» Well, we need some ideas on to do or we
spend $13,000 and put brand new doors in

702
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:52,079
a building that we
>> I mean I think I don't think we have a

703
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:55,280
choice right now. I think we have to
secure it. you don't know what is going

704
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:59,440
on in there when it's being broken into.
And again, that could lead to something

705
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:03,040
» 11 worse for the city.
>> Again, please note with the difference

706
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:06,720
in the bids is that the the one that was
received yesterday is just for the

707
00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:12,000
doors. The one with the lead is the
doors and the um

708
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:17,480
» the sheet well the the windows. It's
it's filling in the windows brick.

709
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:17,480
» Oh, okay.

710
00:51:17,839 --> 00:51:29,359
So, uh, can I just make to secure the
building as best as you deem fit because

711
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:34,400
I'm that's not my specialty. Um, but
then also to move forward with let's

712
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:40,640
come up with how much would it cost to
tear it down, get conquering to see what

713
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:46,480
our options are with that building. Is
it how much would it be to fix it up and

714
00:51:43,359 --> 00:51:51,960
do something with it or turn it into
Does Dan need storage for some of his?

715
00:51:52,319 --> 00:51:58,960
» So, I think that's a multi-step as I see
it. Right. So, first is is the building

716
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:02,079
viable? Yes or no?
>> But I'm just saying that's my motion is

717
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:06,480
to
>> a secure and b start looking at what

718
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,720
we're going to do with it.
>> Yep.

719
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:12,800
» Okay.
>> I need a second. Do we know which one

720
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:16,160
we're going with? We need to
>> Which one? for

721
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,400
» we we have two.
>> Oh,

722
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,280
» uh
>> elite.

723
00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:27,040
» I'm not so sure about breaking that
glass in right now.

724
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:30,400
» I can just have elite do the doors, but
I we need to get we need to secure the

725
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:34,160
windows.
>> I I I just I guess with if you put

726
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,520
plywood up, they don't it doesn't take
them very long to get through that.

727
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:42,319
» And where those windows are, I think.
>> Is this brick going to be removable?

728
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:47,079
Or we turn the brick out, turn the glass
out and bricken the glass in.

729
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:52,960
And if we want to put the glass back,
>> brick can be removed.

730
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,960
» Knock the brick out.
>> Okay.

731
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:04,800
» What are we thinking?
>> So Susan made a motion that we secure

732
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,640
the building.
>> Yes.

733
00:53:05,839 --> 00:53:09,520
» But which contract?
>> So do we go with this?

734
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,640
» We're deciding which contract.
>> Oh.

735
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:18,640
Do we want to go with elite properties?
Oh, they are.

736
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:25,720
» Thank you. I got the properties.
>> It's 113 combined

737
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,720
» there. 11330.

738
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:35,280
» Man, that's a lot of money.
>> Oh, I should

739
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:39,160
just to get us month or two to I mean, I
know we got to secure it, but

740
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:46,400
» Okay. So, I didn't look at that one.
Elite.

741
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:53,920
» Go with elite.
And we like elite. Not just that, not

742
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:56,880
just but uh we've used elite. We've
appreciated their work.

743
00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:00,160
» And so there
>> and and we can work with them to see if

744
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:04,559
there's a different or more cost
effective way and explain to them what

745
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:07,599
the the board's decision is. Um, if you
would like to make that a final motion

746
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:10,319
this evening so we can get them started
on that is

747
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:13,359
» but but I do agree for the record I
would like to see alternatives that will

748
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:18,000
work
>> for the windows

749
00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:22,079
» for the windows possible.
>> That that was exactly what I

750
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,960
» All right. So we need a second. Alderman
Lang.

751
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:27,359
» Second
>> motion by Joker. Second by Lang. Further

752
00:54:25,359 --> 00:54:31,920
discussion. All in favor? Opposed?
Motion carries.

753
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:37,680
» All right. Next is the uh dates for the
budget hearing or public hearing uh for

754
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:41,280
our budget. Nikki, you who did the Jane,
you want to run with this one?

755
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:44,640
» Uh next, we got one more.
>> Next is the uh general election general

756
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:51,040
election.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. The uh bill for uh to the

757
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:57,599
September general election
uh be held April 6th, city of Fenton

758
00:54:55,359 --> 00:55:00,160
candidate filing.
>> Okay.

759
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,480
I would make that motion.
>> Okay, we need a second. Mazerang,

760
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:06,240
» I'll second.
>> Motion by Whisbrock, second by Mazerang.

761
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:10,000
Further discussion. All in favor?
Opposed? Motion carries.

762
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:12,960
» Now we'll move to the budget hearing
dates.

763
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:17,920
» Reference.
>> Yep. And it's just uh typically you

764
00:55:15,839 --> 00:55:22,559
would like to do it an hour in advance
of either the one of the two committee

765
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:26,079
meetings or the board meeting which
would be November 19th. So the options

766
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:30,240
are November 5th, November 12th or
November 19th. However, um staff

767
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:34,240
suggests that you go with one of the
earlier fifth or 12th if uh there's a

768
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:38,480
chance that you may want to continue it
to have another uh session as we have

769
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:42,800
the last couple of years.
>> That's why I think because it's uh I'm

770
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:46,079
going to be out of town for the 19th one
and to do it before the full board

771
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:50,079
meeting. I think it's better to do it
before committee meeting

772
00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:54,559
» for the fifth.
>> I I would make the motion for the fifth.

773
00:55:52,319 --> 00:55:58,319
» Okay, we need a second. Right sh
>> I would second. Okay, we have a motion

774
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,480
by Whisbrock, second by Bright. Further
discussion? Jokers, you have any

775
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:04,799
question?
>> No, I'll second.

776
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:10,000
» No, we got that. All in favor? I
>> opposed. Motion carries. Uh, finally,

777
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:13,920
consideration request from NextGen
Recreation to reduce certain insurance

778
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:17,520
requirements under the city's contract.
>> Yep. Um, last month you approved for

779
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:22,079
staff to move forward with our our
standard public work, our small public

780
00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:28,640
works contract um with NextGen to do the
needed repairs to the um playgrounds in

781
00:56:25,359 --> 00:56:32,400
Fenton City Park and Westside Park. Um
they are they're willing to sign our

782
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:37,359
contract. The only issue is they weren't
able to meet the required limits on

783
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:42,079
automobile insurance um which would be
very low risk on this type of contract.

784
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:46,079
So, they're asking that you wave um
those requirements and

785
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:49,359
» city attorney weigh in.
>> Um

786
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:53,839
» no, I mean that's exactly it. It's
because they um are able to use an

787
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:57,359
umbrella policy to get them up. They
actually only have 2 million in gender

788
00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:02,480
aggurate. Of course, we require like
three, five, seven members. We require

789
00:57:00,319 --> 00:57:07,200
over 3.5 million, but they also have the
umbrella excess liability of 2 million

790
00:57:04,319 --> 00:57:12,400
which could amount. The problem is it is
very common that these uh companies only

791
00:57:09,359 --> 00:57:16,000
have one million in auto insurance
umbrella. It only gets you up to three

792
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:22,160
million. So you're still a little over
5,000.

793
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:26,880
Um but this just covers the
automobile which there you care more

794
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:30,640
about.
There's not much gravel involved.

795
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,359
» You don't sound too concerned.
>> Not about this.

796
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:36,160
» Okay. Alman Hills.
>> I'll make that motion. And can we have

797
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:39,119
that as a final please?
>> Whisbrock. And this is a final.

798
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,599
» Make it a final motion.
>> Second.

799
00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:45,119
» Motion by second by Whisbrock. Further
discussion. All in favor?

800
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,240
» Motion carries.
>> Turn.

801
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:50,960
» Your turn.
>> Okay. I'd like to close the meeting

802
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:56,720
pursuant to section 610.211
legal actions, causes of action or

803
00:57:52,640 --> 00:58:03,920
litigation and section 610.0212
lease, purchase or sale of real estate.

804
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:09,280
» We good? One and two.
You you said

805
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:11,599
» okay. Need a second. Alderman Lang.
>> Second.

806
00:58:09,839 --> 00:58:15,119
» Motion by Hughes. Second by Lang.
Further discussion. Roll call, please.

807
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,160
» Alderwoman Heels.
>> Hi.

808
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,440
» Alderman Lang.
>> Hi.

809
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,640
» Alderman Bridechef.
>> Hi.

810
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,839
» Alderman Whisper.
>> Hi.

811
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,599
» Alderman Rogers.
>> Hi.

812
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,200
» Alderwoman Joker.
>> Alderman Mazerang.

813
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,599
» Hi.
>> Motion carries.