[0:14] Yeah,
>> me turn the mic on. Good evening
[0:16] everyone. Welcome to the Fenton board
committee meeting. This is September
[0:20] 3rd, 2026. We'll begin with the pledge
of allegiance.
[0:39] roll call, please.
>> Alderman Lang
[0:42] » here.
>> Alderman Brightchef here.
[0:43] » Al Whisper here.
>> Alderman Rogers
[0:45] » here.
>> Alderwoman Hills here. Alderwoman Jokers
[0:48] here. Alder Mazerang here. Alderman
Harrell, excused, Dabson. Seven for the
[0:52] quorum. Okay. Uh,
>> mayor's comments been hot out there.
[0:57] All I can say. I guess that's why we
didn't have the uh event this evening.
[1:04] Their
>> the U farmers market. Okay. I didn't see
[1:10] where that was published or anything,
but did I miss that?
[1:14] It was on Facebook. Okay.
>> All right. Public comments. Do we have
[1:17] any public comments, Jane?
>> I have no public comments.
[1:20] » I don't see anybody in the audience that
cares.
[1:23] » Can I just speak? Can we fix that sign?
The banner is always
[1:29] » Where are we talking about?
>> Farmers Market sign. I'm just letting
[1:32] you know every time I drive past that
sign down.
[1:35] » How about How about if Uncle Joe fixes
it for permanent
[1:37] » or Yeah. Or we come up with a different
I'll take care of it.
[1:40] » But it's always bent over that you can't
even see what it is.
[1:44] » We've got to pay attention to those
things.
[1:47] » But or or just get a different kind of
that whatever it is.
[1:50] » I'll take care of it.
>> Okay.
[1:51] » Thank you.
We're going to first move to the P
[1:56] police municipal courts. Alderman Malang
is chair on that committee. Harold
[2:00] Rogers and Jokers. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
First up tonight, we have a
[2:03] consideration of request from St. Paul
for a road closure and police assistance
[2:07] for a walk-athon parade on October 30th.
Uh C827 memo from Jane. Um looks like
[2:14] it's 8:15 to 9:15 a.m. Friday, October
30th. uh requesting police assistance
[2:19] and road closures. They have
approximately 370 participants and two
[2:23] vehicles in the parade.
Start at St. Paul and Forest Null. Head
[2:27] down New Smiser Mill, heading west,
right on Woodway, continue on Woodway
[2:31] Circle, back to New Smiser Mill Road,
heading east to Forestnull Drive, and
[2:35] back up to St. Paul. Um
there any other additions to this, Jane?
[2:41] This is an annual walkathon that they
have each year and the police assistant
[2:46] um going out and back on on that.
>> Yeah.
[2:52] » Only an hour.
>> Yeah.
[2:54] » Um I just that goes right by my house. I
want to say it's obviously it's very
[2:58] well attended and the kids love it. Um I
I would I'm very much in for it. A lot
[3:03] of neighbors come out and watch them
too. So it is a fun thing for
[3:07] » Any other questions? This time I'd like
to make a motion to approve.
[3:12] » Need a second. Alderman Jokers.
>> Second.
[3:15] » Uh we have a motion by Lang, second by
Jokers. Do we have further comment? All
[3:19] in favor?
>> Opposed? Motion carries.
[3:22] » Next, we have a consideration of request
for the city to purchase cell phones for
[3:25] the business resource officers and
neighborhood policing officer. I know we
[3:29] discussed this in the past. Uh Nikki, do
you want to expand on this at all or?
[3:35] Yeah, I'll be happy to kind of kick it
off if you have any questions for the
[3:38] captain to address. Um, the police
department is requesting that the city
[3:43] uh essentially provide the funding for
three cell phones. Two for the business
[3:48] resource off the two business resource
officer positions and one for the
[3:52] neighborhood policing um officer
position. um if we were to do so what
[3:57] that is is that they would yeah they
they would procure the phones and then
[4:02] we would just reimburse them for the
cost on our monthly on our monthly bill
[4:06] um the cost is $50 per phone or $150 a
month
[4:09] » which I know we discussed this a little
bit before and our worry was us having
[4:12] the phones with you know just it being
under our pos
[4:16] » yes our possession there would be a
city-owned phone which would fall under
[4:20] our sunshine so it's best that it's it's
it would be for police use police
[4:24] records that it's best that in their
possession
[4:26] » and when it falls under sunshine.
Explain a little bit what that creates
[4:30] for the city.
>> Um what that would create for the city
[4:32] is that if the city has the if the city
owns the cell phone, if the city
[4:36] provides the cell phone, that it would
if any records request would come in
[4:39] that we would have to be able to search
or use their their phones for those
[4:43] records requests. Whereas what they're
using it for is police business. That
[4:46] should fall under their sunshine, their
records request for their police
[4:49] business.
>> Alderman Mazerie,
[4:51] » I have a question for the captain. Um,
do most officers do they have a a phone
[4:57] issued by the St. Louis County Police? I
mean, it seems like it's almost an
[4:59] essential uh tool in today's society
that or do that most officers just rely
[5:04] on their personal cell phone if they
during the day-to-day activities.
[5:08] » No, there are very few officers uh
especially division of patrol. So, your
[5:12] commanders have one uh captains and then
some of the specialized units uh that
[5:17] are on call usually 24 hours a day. So
most of your patrolmen uh do not have a
[5:22] phone.
>> Okay. This seems like it's such an
[5:25] essential part of everyday life that
that it would be, you know, and I I
[5:29] understand the reasons why officers may
not want to use their um personal phone
[5:33] for police work um because of sunshine
stuff like that, but I just seem it
[5:38] seems like almost makes sense that all
officers would have one nowadays.
[5:45] » Sorry, I can't speak. Um
why like like what are they obviously
[5:51] they're not out there with no way to
communicate like what are they using now
[5:55] that's not working so why do you need
cell phone
[5:59] » know what I mean?
>> Yeah. Um currently uh uh officer Dilks
[6:05] does have a phone that is city-owned
that you all pay for. Um and then uh the
[6:11] two what this is for is the two business
resource officers. Um, so
[6:17] the past business resource officer, I
know uh officer Carr when he left and
[6:21] went to uh personnel, they the
department had him keep that because he
[6:25] was doing background investigations on
uh applicants, police applicants. So
[6:30] that phone went with him. So Jared, so
Jared, officer Abalov and Officer
[6:35] Meyers, uh they do get a lot of calls uh
with the um the professional connection
[6:42] that they have with a lot of the
business owners. A lot of these owners,
[6:45] if a crime occurs uh over a weekend,
they call officer um Abalov and Meyers
[6:53] on their phone to report those crimes
that they don't typically call the
[6:58] officers who are working and just have
officers Abalov and Meyers respond to
[7:04] their location the next day that they're
working to to write those reports. And
[7:08] they're constantly sharing information
um information from uh surveillance
[7:13] cameras. They're sending a lot of those
by phone and obviously those personal
[7:17] phones if they are subpoenaed then they
are if they get a subpoena for that
[7:22] phone then they're out of their personal
phone. Whereas if the department would
[7:26] subpoena the phone that I the department
phone that I have then the department
[7:30] would end up giving me another phone
while that one was sitting in evidence.
[7:36] But we don't want to purchase these but
then we are going to be paying you back
[7:41] for them like right like
>> so so the way that it works if if we
[7:45] bought the phones and let them use them
we're subject to sunshine we if somebody
[7:51] comes and requests information off okay
that becomes pretty costly for the city
[7:56] and timeconuming I think the real
question here tonight that the
[8:00] » reimbursing them for the phone
>> they buy them they're phones we
[8:04] reimburse them that's the question. Do
you think that they should buy the
[8:08] phones or the city of Fenton should buy
the phones? That's the real issue
[8:12] tonight. Are are those any different
than their guns, bullets, handcuffs?
[8:17] » Are we paying the monthly payments for
the service? Are we paying the monthly
[8:21] payments to pay off the phones? Because
if we're paying off the phones, then
[8:25] we're buying the phone.
>> I would think it's it's
[8:27] » correct.
>> I don't know the answer to that.
[8:31] » So, it's just this
>> Yeah, the phones are held by them
[8:33] instead. just goes into the the
reimbursement of the cost just goes into
[8:37] our monthly contract that we're paying
for their overall service.
[8:41] » It's an additional cost for them to have
those phones.
[8:45] » We're just buying the phone and paying
for the service.
[8:48] » You're paying $1,800 a year.
>> We're not buying the phone. It's to pay
[8:53] for their service, which is $50 a month.
>> It just says it sound like reimbursing
[8:58] them for the phones, which
>> No, no, no. It's reimbursing them
[9:01] because they're having to use because
they fall under the same as the category
[9:04] as the the city is that our phones are
typically free through the vendors. It's
[9:09] just that we have to pay our monthly
service fee like an individual does to
[9:12] have a a your cell service and it's $50
a month.
[9:16] » No different than like the vehicles. I
mean, we're not buying the vehicles, but
[9:19] we're reimbursing you guys for using
them in our area, the patrol cars.
[9:24] » Okay. I think I So, we're just we're
paying the service so that you could use
[9:28] them while you're
>> and again what I see is it helps these
[9:31] officers do their job and not have to
get calls and texts on personal cell
[9:36] phones if they needed to. So, and
officer Dils, if I'm correct, will be
[9:40] transferred over to this instead of the
city of Fenton. So, that's a benefit to
[9:44] us.
>> And also, uh it sounds like
[9:48] » and the funds would remain. So if um
officers Abelov or Myers would leave
[9:53] then obviously those phones would stay
with the with the Fenton Police
[9:58] Department and yeah they're positional
phones so they would stay with the NO
[10:02] and the two business resource officers
>> and I do like I don't know I like the
[10:07] idea that the community is so
comfortable with these
[10:13] officers that they're you know like they
it's like real personal service like a
[10:19] tap on the in the street.
>> Does that make sense?
[10:23] » Especially for our business owners.
That's the only place we really have
[10:25] issues. Knock on wood. So, it's good for
them.
[10:28] » That it kind of makes it a more
personable.
[10:32] » Well, and there's there's more features
that come with a cell phone than say a
[10:35] radio call or a dispatch or something.
They can get pictures and have a whole
[10:39] interchange of things that would be
recorded that they could write later
[10:44] that, you know. So, I I I'm for it. I
think I think it's actually a small
[10:48] price to pay to help help the guys out
there deal. So, any other questions
[10:53] this time? I'd like to make a motion to
approve.
[10:56] » Alman Rogers.
>> I second.
[10:58] » Motion by Lang, second by Rogers.
Further discussion? All in favor?
[11:01] » I opposed. Motion carries.
>> Next, we have a consideration of
[11:04] amendments to the traffic code related
to bicycles, ebikes, motorized bicycles,
[11:08] motorized play vehicles, alternative
motor vehicles, anything with wheels.
[11:13] Um, so I I believe we want to continue
this again, uh, just to make sure that
[11:19] we get this correct because there's just
so much that goes into it. Um, I mean,
[11:25] Aaron, is there anything you want to add
to this or just I know you want to be
[11:28] sure it's all correct as well. So,
>> yeah, we're still working on kind of the
[11:31] distinctions between them and why we're
making certain rules for some and not
[11:35] others.
>> Yeah, it's it's such a huge topic of
[11:38] discussion all over that it's changing
all the time. So, we don't want to do
[11:42] something and then have to go back to
the drawing board. So, at this time, I'd
[11:45] make a motion to continue. Oh, sorry.
>> I did one. I There was a couple one I
[11:50] think if we do I do I I liked what I
read. I do think we need to start
[11:56] looking at creating bike lanes in our
roads. Then we're forcing all these
[12:00] people onto the roads, which I agree
with what we're doing. Just I don't know
[12:06] how, but we might want to start looking
at putting bike lanes on the road. You
[12:10] mean striping them because they have the
right to ride right on the road now.
[12:13] » I know. But you know what I mean? Like
it really helps if you're a biker just
[12:18] to kind of and and also for cars to be
like, "Oh, that's uh the other thing is
[12:24] uh like in here it said that the the the
board was doing this, you know, for
[12:29] safety, blah blah blah." But we're I
would like it to say also for the record
[12:34] that it's is it state or federal law
Aaron that says that we have to treat
[12:39] all electric bikes like
so I think we need to put because of the
[12:45] state law saying that we have to
recognize electric bikes as regular
[12:48] bicycles. That's kind of why we're here
because we couldn't separate the two.
[12:54] Um, and then also because of the
advancement of electric bikes going from
[12:59] 20 miles per hour to 40 miles per hour,
we had to do something. But I think that
[13:02] we need to put in that because of the
state law.
[13:06] It's not just
put in a pickle.
[13:11] » That's it.
>> At this time, I'd like to make a motion
[13:14] to approve.
>> Sorry to continue. Sorry to continue.
[13:16] » Continue. Alderman Jokers.
>> I second.
[13:18] » Motion by Lang, second by Jokers.
Further discussion. All in favor?
[13:20] » I oppose. Motion carries. Finally, we
have a consideration of a request for
[13:24] the city to purchase integrated
biometric devices. Uh we have a memo
[13:28] from officer Dilks. Um but Nikki, do you
have anything to add to this? A little
[13:32] bit of explanation.
>> Yeah, I can just add to this for anybody
[13:35] who was on the board. The the
conversation regarding live scan a few
[13:38] years ago regarding the large device
that would need to come in. Um as as
[13:43] technology has evolved, um they're now
able to provide essentially the same
[13:48] technology on a tablet. It's a onetime
cost of a little over 2,000 per unit um
[13:54] that are hand basically handheld devices
that will provide the police with what
[13:58] they need to take in the fingerprinting
um and provide it to the the central uh
[14:04] then they're able to provide it to the
courts because this is beneficial both
[14:06] to our courts and to our police, not
just the police uh for these devices to
[14:11] exist. Um, it also allows them to catch
fingerprinting on nights where the um,
[14:16] defendants may show up and haven't had
their necessary fingerprinting done and
[14:20] um, abided by what requirements were.
So, they would be able to catch them on
[14:24] that. Um and a lot of it has to do with
at this point they are seeking two
[14:29] devices. Um both to of course be used on
courtnite but one may become mobile with
[14:34] the traffic officer due to the fact that
many of those are the violations that
[14:38] they need the fingerprinting um before
before release and and now they have to
[14:43] require the courts have to send them a
letter that states you need to go have
[14:47] this done before your court date and the
likelihood of that happening usually is
[14:50] slum to none. So but I I the captain
would be happy. I do know that we are
[14:55] requesting to purchase these. However,
the county is going to be getting a
[14:59] trial with them to make sure that they
integrate seamlessly. Um, so I think
[15:04] what we would do is we would go ahead
and pass this because we have another
[15:07] hoop we would need to go through because
we would essentially be donating these
[15:11] to the police department and they would
have to be accepted as a donation by the
[15:15] county. So, it's going to be a bit of a
process. It's going to be 30 days on our
[15:18] end, about 30 days on their end. And in
the meantime, they are going to be um
[15:23] going through a trial with the uh
Missouri State Highway Patrol um just to
[15:27] make sure that these are meeting all of
their needs in real life um before we
[15:32] would uh go ahead and just make the
purchase. So, but we like I said, it's
[15:36] going to take us a while to to pass the
ordinance and then also to go to the
[15:40] county for them to approve the
donations.
[15:43] » But overall, this makes life for our
court a lot easier.
[15:46] » It is it's it's it serves on both sides.
It saves the time of them having to send
[15:51] the letters and our post our postage
time spent with that and then the police
[15:56] getting the documents they need are
required to obtain um for certain
[16:00] violations.
[16:03] » I believe that includes suspended
license.
[16:07] » Couple questions. So if we do the
donation, it'll be like the cell phone
[16:12] where it'll stay with the city of Fenton
even though we donate it
[16:16] » and then
>> So we will be donating it to the police.
[16:19] I
>> Oh, the precinct. Yeah,
[16:22] » it'll stay. Oh, so maybe I should Yeah,
so we donate it to St. Louis County, but
[16:26] it stays with the precinct.
>> I'm not an expert on how all the
[16:30] donation works. I know uh Eric um
is Nurowitz.
[16:36] » Yeah, that's right. um uh had a meeting
with us uh just recently and he said
[16:40] that that would be the best way to do
it. Um so yes, but they would stay they
[16:44] would stay here.
>> Yeah, they would.
[16:46] » We can make that a condition.
>> And then what was the part I didn't get
[16:51] the part about the mo one would be
mobile, one would not be.
[16:55] » Oh, what we were saying is that at some
time if if the traffic officer he would
[16:59] be able to actually use it on the road,
it would be mobile something that he
[17:02] could have in his car to utilize to
capture the data that he did. And that
[17:07] way
just in case. So one would be in the
[17:10] courts in case a traffic officer didn't
get the fingerprints for somebody that
[17:13] showed up and didn't have them.
Otherwise he gets it done and it's done
[17:16] ahead of time no matter what.
>> Sorry. I was thinking was one was not
[17:21] mobile. So it was like a fix to
something. The other was mobile.
[17:25] » No, they're they're both mobile. They're
just about twice the size of a of a of
[17:29] your iPhone. Um it's just a
>> the mobile device that uh takes those
[17:34] prints and then sends those prints over
to the highway patrol. Um and yes, we're
[17:38] going to do our highway safety unit is
supposed there. This is I don't think
[17:42] it's technology that's supposed to come
out until like January. Um but I don't
[17:47] know exactly when. I know a lot of
emails have been passed around to see
[17:50] when the testing evaluation phase will
will begin. I haven't had a concrete uh
[17:55] answer regarding that. But uh we're
going to test and evaluate the devices
[17:59] prior to any purchase to make sure they
integrate with u the different IT
[18:05] systems to make sure they download
properly and that they they are
[18:09] compatible.
[18:12] » Thank you. Any other questions?
>> Uh just uh so I guess first quick
[18:16] question, no subscription, right? Just a
flat purchase, one-time purchase and
[18:21] they have some reasonable useful life,
maybe a couple years or something like
[18:25] that. Yeah.
>> Okay. Back.
[18:28] » So, okay. Well, then
>> 12 month warranty.
[18:31] » Okay. So, um and then um Oh, lost the
other one. It was um So, is this
[18:38] something that we expect is going to be
good or should we wait until they
[18:42] confirm that it's good or is that
something that
[18:45] » I would definitely wait until the um the
testing evaluation phase is completed
[18:50] that they are compatible units. um that
we don't have any flaws with
[18:55] compatibility with the internet systems.
Um they've assured us that it should be
[19:00] a smooth process with that, but
>> obviously we're going to do a test and
[19:04] evaluation before before the because I
think the department is going to
[19:09] purchase some too. I know our highway
safety, like I said, our highway safety
[19:13] unit is wanting some of those as well.
Um, and currently there there are
[19:17] fingerprintable offenses and a couple of
those are like driving while revoked,
[19:21] driving while suspended. Necess normally
we don't arrest uh someone for driving
[19:26] while suspended. Um, but it is a
fingerprintable offense where we have to
[19:31] obtain those fingerprints. Um, so this
and and just like Nikki said that uh I
[19:36] know Michelle and the courts is uh has
to send those letters out repeatedly and
[19:42] the compliance on someone coming to
court with the fingerprints um usually
[19:48] doesn't happen. So I'm in favor of um as
long as it's going to work though. Um
[19:54] » yeah, we're not purchasing unless we
know it works, but this is kind of to
[19:57] approve that if it's all good, we will
Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
[20:03] Okay.
>> But I'll I'll get with the attorney
[20:05] though. Should we wait until they tell
us to go on this sending it to the
[20:09] county because at that point it might
just be
[20:12] » I mean I think before sending to the
county but I think we can move forward
[20:15] with it and authorize you to move
forward
[20:17] » and then as soon as they're comfortable
we can send it to the county then for
[20:20] approval for donation.
>> I probably
[20:27] » thank you captain. Oh sorry.
>> Oh no. Uh, at this time I'd like to make
[20:32] a motion to approve.
>> Alderman Jokers.
[20:34] » I'll second.
>> Motion by Lang, second by Jokers.
[20:36] Further discussion. All in favor? I
oppose. Motion carries. That's all I
[20:40] have tonight, Mr. Mayor. We're going to
move to personnel. Alderman Hules on the
[20:43] committee. Lang, Whisbrock, Jokers.
>> Thank you, sir. Um, first item is the
[20:47] third quarter achievement awards. I have
a memo from Jane Hungler. Each year on a
[20:51] quarterly basis, the city recognizes all
employees who have achieved five-year
[20:55] milestones. Full-time employees will
receive $10 per year of service. This
[20:59] quarter we are recognizing the following
July, August and September anniversary
[21:03] for 2026. Rob Brink 5 years and Andre
and Nikki Frinkbinder 20 years. The
[21:08] achievement and gift certificate will be
presented at the September 24th board of
[21:12] alderman meeting.
[21:16] Next item is consideration of amendments
to the job description for bookkeeper,
[21:20] accounting, administrative support, and
administrative assistant at city hall.
[21:24] We have a memo from Jane Hungler.
[21:30] on these job descriptions. Um, since we
have the vacancy now in the bookkeeper
[21:35] admin support, um, we want to make that
a part-time flex position and we would
[21:43] like to make the administrative um,
assistant um, a full-time position.
[21:51] Anybody have any questions?
We're just kind of flipping it around.
[21:56] We
Anybody have any questions? If not, uh,
[22:00] and I see you're asking for a final
motion so that we can get this
[22:03] advertised.
>> Okay. I'd like to make a final motion to
[22:07] change it to the part-time flex
position.
[22:10] » Pardon me.
>> Sorry. I make a motion to open it up to
[22:13] the full board.
>> Okay. Second. Alderman Rogers. Yes.
[22:17] » Okay.
>> He's not.
[22:19] » I'm sorry. You're not on that committee.
Uh, Whisbrock.
[22:21] » Second.
>> Motion by uh heel uh heels. Second by
[22:25] Whisbrock for to open up to the full
board. All in favor? Opposed? Motion
[22:29] carries.
>> Now, I'd like to make a final motion to
[22:31] uh make this a part-time flex so we can
start getting it advertised.
[22:34] » Okay. Alderman Rogers.
>> I second.
[22:36] » All right. Motion by Hu, second by
Rogers. Further discussion. All in
[22:39] favor? Opposed? Motion carries.
>> The last item I have is a request for
[22:43] the 2026 employee lunchon. I've got a
memo from Aaron Gravel. Uh
[22:47] traditionally, the city of Fenton has an
annual employee appreciation lunchon in
[22:50] December. Last year, the event was held
on Friday, December 5th in the former
[22:53] library space. If approved by the board
for this year, staff is suggesting the
[22:57] lunchon will be held on Friday, December
4th in the former library space. Upon
[23:01] approval, a catering will be determined
by staff. This event is budgeted under
[23:05] line item and uh we something we do
every year requires a motion. I'd make
[23:10] this motion.
>> Okay. Alderman
[23:13] Joker. I saw your hand up first, sir.
>> I'll second it.
[23:16] » Motion by second by Joker. Further
discussion. All in favor? Opposed?
[23:20] Motion carries. All I have
>> uh community development and affairs,
[23:24] Alderman Rogers, along with Brit Shaft,
Herald, and Mazerang.
[23:27] » Thank you, Mayor. I have nothing for
discussion tonight. Thank you.
[23:30] » Okay. Uh we're going to move capital
improvements, Alderman Mazarang, Bright
[23:34] Shaft, Herald, and Heels.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The first item up
[23:38] for discussion is uh a memo from uh who
is this from? It's from Nikki. So, um,
[23:46] so it is, uh, basically the bid opening
for the 2026 park path improvement
[23:50] project was held on August 27th. The
city received three bids for the project
[23:54] with Spencer Contracting submitting the
lowest and most responsive bid for 140
[23:58] thou 440,376,000.
[24:02] Um, the EMR contracting was the second
lowest bid at $148,780.
[24:09] Um the project will consist of removal
replacement identified areas asphalt
[24:13] repair within the Fenton City Park
greenway, Marramac Greenway, uh Valley
[24:17] Park, and a section of the Marramac
Greenway to be overlaid. See that
[24:21] attached to project specifications. Um I
guess at that at I guess I have a
[24:26] question about this. Some of the areas I
know in the back of the park people have
[24:30] complained about them holding mud and
water and stuff. I I guess that is
[24:33] addressing these issues and uh bringing
the grade up on them and stuff.
[24:37] » Yep. Okay, Susan,
>> I did have a question. Um, this is
[24:42] obviously for these specific areas, but
just something to for the future, the
[24:48] path behind the Y that goes down to
Westside Park. Um, the Bermuda grass is
[24:54] really eating into that path and
starting to to eat it up.
[25:00] We probably need to look at treating
that.
[25:04] » Yeah. And and if anybody else, Nikki,
would you ask uh whoever, I don't know
[25:09] if it's Dan, the contractor, in a lot of
these areas, the reason that we're going
[25:14] to have to replace it is the uh roots
are pushing the asphalt up. Is that are
[25:19] those roots removed? Are those going to
damage the trees? You know what? But I
[25:24] think the roots should should go away.
And I I didn't read anything in there
[25:28] that would indicate that. So, would you
make a footnote?
[25:31] » Follow up on that. Any other questions?
And I see the bids are a bit more than
[25:39] we had budgeted. So it looks like we
would have to amend the current budget.
[25:42] But uh I guess at this uh time I would
make a motion that we go with uh Spencer
[25:48] Contracting the lowest bid.
>> Alman Huels.
[25:52] » I'll second.
>> Motion by Maserang. Second by Huels.
[25:54] Further discussion. All in favor?
Opposed? Motion carries.
[25:57] » All right. Next item is the bid opening
for the 2026 joint crack sealing
[26:03] services will be held on September 3rd
and it was held. So here we have uh a
[26:07] new memo. Um the city held the bid
opening for the 2026 joint crack sealing
[26:11] program on September 3rd. Eight
contractors uh received uh copy
[26:16] requested copies of the bid packet with
three submitting bids. Sweet and ceiling
[26:19] service submitted the lowest responsive
bid ofund or $10,74.
[26:24] The next lowest bid was from parking lot
maintenance at $11,753.
[26:29] The the locations to be sealed uh this
year include Cassin's Drive, Fen Corp
[26:34] Drive, Oello Drive, Alvarado Drive, and
San Martin Drive, the south side. Uh any
[26:39] questions? What
>> uh I do I do want to mention would you
[26:43] uh ask Dan about uh Riverside and Forest
Null. I know that's been done, but there
[26:49] are areas that it has come up and we
need to address that.
[26:53] Sweden's who did work last year.
>> I
[26:58] I don't know if I would go with Sweden's
from what I've seen in my neighborhood.
[27:06] » Right. I have the same sentiments. We
had discussions I think publicly about
[27:11] the the work was bad and it wasn't
complete and we thought u we weren't
[27:16] happy with them. And so to to turn
around and give them another contract, I
[27:21] think is pretty pretty silly on our
part, even if it means paying a little
[27:25] more.
>> I I would echo those two comments uh
[27:28] myself. There's other locations where
Sweetens did it last year. It didn't
[27:33] seem to stick. They didn't seem to clean
out the crack uh before the uh seal went
[27:38] in.
>> Uh Terry and uh Jimmy, can you refresh?
[27:42] Your your streets are all concrete or
they overlaid with asphalt? I'm trying
[27:45] to remember.
>> No, they're solid concrete. solid
[27:47] concrete. Okay. Just trying to get the
what the base is. Any other questions?
[27:53] So, does it sound like we want to go try
someone different with uh parking lot
[27:57] maintenance?
I'll make a motion that we go with
[28:01] parking lot maintenance for the $11,753.
>> Okay. We need Alderman Brit.
[28:06] » I would second that.
>> Motion by Mazang, second by Bright
[28:09] Shaff. Further discussion? Yes, sir.
>> Do we need to So, we're not going with
[28:13] the lowest bid on this. Do we need to do
anything?
[28:16] » No. I mean, your discussion was enough.
You you are finding them the lowest,
[28:19] best, most responsive bidder, which you
were allowed to do. You do not have to
[28:22] go with the lowest.
>> You know, I I think that uh yeah, the
[28:26] motion is there.
>> Uh if Dan feels uncomfortable or has a
[28:31] different attitude, then he can
certainly talk to us before meeting and
[28:36] we, you know, we can take that under
advisement, but I think this is what the
[28:39] board's looking at. I don't know that I
necessarily disagree because I think
[28:43] last year there were a lot of areas in
the Riverside subdivision that I saw
[28:47] that had come up relatively quick and it
wasn't after the snow plowing
[28:53] » and the price is negligible. So the
difference
[28:55] » so all in favor
>> opposed motion carries.
[28:59] » And the final item I have tonight is uh
consideration of the bid for back stop
[29:04] repairs at the Fenton Sport Complex.
Staff requested quotes for two vendors
[29:08] uh from two vendors for backs stop
repairs at the Fenton Sports Complex
[29:11] Elite, which was currently have an on
call contract, submitted a quote of
[29:14] $18,560.
A quote was also requested from J&J
[29:18] Fence, which staff has had good
experience with, quoted $15,25.
[29:24] With both quotes being over the $15,000
threshold, staff is asking to weigh the
[29:29] formal bidding procedures and award the
contract to J&J Fence. If approved, the
[29:33] uh um the the capital plan under back
stop repairs with the budget amount
[29:37] would need to be amended. Any questions?
>> Yeah.
[29:41] » But no, it was at 40,000. The bids came
in at 15 and
[29:47] » Oh, so it would not or no?
>> No, it would not need to be amended. The
[29:52] » budget 40,000.
>> Okay. I lower
[29:56] » I and I probably am getting all of our
sports
[30:01] updates
confused, but I could have sworn that we
[30:05] just had these back stops done. Or was
that
[30:08] » fencing?
>> There were some at the sports complex
[30:12] that were re repenced by uh Chesterfield
fence and deck.
[30:16] » Yeah.
>> So, these these are some these are
[30:18] additional ones and they're probably in
worse shape. And the one thing that we
[30:23] talked about today when we were meeting
with Dan is we want to do a fix to where
[30:28] it doesn't happen again. We're going to
add additional support because most of
[30:32] those are where they run into it. Um so
we we want to make sure that we don't
[30:37] have that reoccurrence. So they're going
to do a little bit more to reinforce
[30:42] that so we don't have to keep coming
back. We got to think a little pro
[30:45] proactively. And most of a lot of this
is for the Fenton Sports Complex where
[30:49] that fencing was there when we purchased
it and both and had gone underwater
[30:52] during the 15 and 17 floods. So a lot of
>> Yeah. But we we spent quite a bit every
[30:58] year in um back stops because we have to
repair replace areas, but they're
[31:04] they're all in need.
>> The kids run into it. They hang the bats
[31:08] on it.
>> Well, there's no there's no support, you
[31:10] know, a foot high and naturally it's
going to give
[31:14] » all those it's it's the same at
Lindwood. We had a fence around the main
[31:17] stadium. Soccer balls hit across
everything and they bend in. I mean,
[31:20] it's just
>> we're going to make that not happen. So,
[31:23] » with with the uh I mean, we probably
have 15 back stops between the two parks
[31:27] or more. I mean, so there we didn't get
them all. And typically back stops take
[31:31] a lot of abuse even just from foul tips,
everything, bats, and all that stuff.
[31:34] So, um
>> Okay,
[31:37] » Robin, did you have a question? Oh,
okay. Uh any other uh Okay. Any other
[31:43] questions? All right. All right. At this
time, I'd make a motion that we go with
[31:47] uh uh who are we going with? Uh
>> J&J.
[31:51] » J&J. Yeah, J&J.
>> Bright.
[31:53] » I would second.
>> Motion by Maserang, second by Brightch.
[31:55] Further discussion. All in favor?
>> Opposed? Motion carries.
[31:59] » All I have the night, Mr. Mayor.
>> Public works, forestry. Alderman Brit,
[32:02] Whisbrock, Rogers, and Maserang.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This evening, we
[32:05] have two things to discuss. Uh the first
being uh consideration of a request to
[32:10] seek bids for the 2027 grass cutting
services. And I have a memo from Dan.
[32:16] Um, with the current staffing level at
public works, we hear that a lot. Below
[32:21] what is needed to accomplish weekly
activities provided by public works,
[32:25] including park and street maintenance.
Um, there are 16 parcels that we are uh
[32:30] seeking bids.
Yeah, we're seeking bids. We're not
[32:35] looking at one specific contractor.
Okay. Uh to take care of these areas uh
[32:40] next cutting season in 2027. Um
I have a question about this one and
[32:46] it'll also roll over as the same
question for the second item this
[32:50] evening and that is um if we were to get
our manpower up more would we not need
[32:59] these contract and are if these
contracts are written as such that we
[33:04] say yes we're going to use you or we're
only going to use you in case we need
[33:09] you or how does that how does that work
>> because What I'm envisioning is that we
[33:14] say, "Yeah, it's obvious we need help
cutting these 16 areas, but between now
[33:19] and then, we get four or five more guys
and we're able to do it ourselves. What
[33:24] do What do we do with this contract?"
>> Can I Can I throw in here now? I I don't
[33:28] I don't think with the number of people
that we have, I I honestly think we need
[33:32] to concentrate on our streets more than
our grass and our parks. I really do. I
[33:38] think that what we need to look at,
we're kind of discussing a little bit
[33:41] internally until we figure something out
with the board. So, Steve Meyers, Steve
[33:46] Stevens, you know, um maybe it's time
that he needs a few full-time people
[33:51] instead of part-time. The reason I say
that is you Jane told us today she had
[33:57] 149 uh resumes. Out of that, they they
weeded down to about 12. And how many
[34:04] did you have that responded? So since we
started advertising for that position in
[34:10] January of this year, we overall have
received 149 applications
[34:15] and we um hired the first round of of
our applicants who are now, you know,
[34:23] into their season and we have no staff
there. So, we have reached out to 12
[34:29] selected uh candidates out of the
leftover pool that was there and have
[34:35] had no response.
>> We uh Go ahead.
[34:39] » So, since I've been on the board,
our public works department has been
[34:45] short. I mean, just I do not see in the
next year or two that all of a sudden
[34:51] people are going to be like, I want to
work for Fen. be nice, but let's we got
[34:57] to be realistic about this and that the
reality that all of a sudden we're going
[35:02] to get five or six people that are going
to stay because we hire and then a
[35:06] couple of months later somebody quit.
So, I think that if we actually have a
[35:12] couple months where we have too many
public works or we got people mowing the
[35:17] lawn, then we can actually use our
public works for other stuff that has
[35:21] not been done because we're so short
staff. So, I I don't have a problem with
[35:27] signing a contract for a year or two and
actually having too many people.
[35:31] » Okay. And my my question I think is
legitimate. I mean, if we sign and we're
[35:36] committed, but then we hire guys then
>> um we could do the work ourselves. How
[35:41] how does that work? And
>> so Terry, that's where I'm I'm trying to
[35:44] point out. So with this alternative
Fenton City Park common ground area, if
[35:48] because that's what our guys mainly take
a lot of time in doing every week that
[35:54] would open them up to do more of the
street stuff. And I can't predict how
[35:58] many more people we're going to hire. It
doesn't look like we're going to hire
[36:01] many. We we have one that has been
offered a job today. Uh no, not yet. It
[36:07] hasn't, but it's it's coming that way.
But I I I hear what you're saying.
[36:12] You're saying, you know, how where are
we going to put a stop at the public
[36:15] works if we hire this all done? Um, not
necessarily, but I just want to know if
[36:22] I was a if I was a contractor, grass
cutting contractor, and you guys came to
[36:26] me and and I won a bid and I geared up
manpower-wise and then all of a sudden
[36:31] you told me, "H, no, we got enough guys.
We don't need you now." That that
[36:34] wouldn't be right here. So, I went into
Ohio contract was going to be worded.
[36:37] I'm not saying we don't need to cut the
grass. I agree. We need to cut the
[36:41] grass,
>> but I'm just But these contracts are
[36:43] limited, right? It's not It's not We're
not saying we're going to have you mow
[36:47] the grass for the next 20 years. It's
>> Yeah, it's just
[36:52] » 27.
>> Yeah, it's just for one year.
[36:54] » I think Dan has stated before in the
past, too. If it's awful dry or what and
[36:58] we don't need the grass cut, he can tell
them not to do it and we're not built
[37:02] for it, right? It's Yeah. So, I mean,
would really be no different if if you
[37:07] say we don't need you to cut it because
we got enough manpower. I mean,
[37:10] » I don't see what the difference is if he
told him not to cut it.
[37:15] That doesn't happen often though.
>> I believe that you're talking about as
[37:19] needed. So if it's super dry or whatever
else, it's as needed cuz Dan calls them
[37:24] tells them to cut.
>> If we got our own guys, it's not needed
[37:26] by them.
>> Great.
[37:29] » But but if anything, we'll actually have
somebody mowing the grass and then our
[37:34] guys can
paint something that has needed to be
[37:38] painted for the last 20 years. Yeah.
>> Some of this is logistic, too. I mean
[37:42] these these are scattered all over and
it's a little tougher to run from one to
[37:46] the other to the other as opposed to
having a contractor with is mobile you
[37:51] know. So uh any other
>> So I do want to point out we had a
[37:56] little discussion this afternoon Robin
uh Nikki and Dan and I about uh trying
[38:01] to do much as he's suggesting in the
next uh item which is the snow removal.
[38:07] trying to find several smaller companies
to do it and spread that out a little
[38:12] bit.
So, it's what we wanted to do the last
[38:17] go round,
>> but I don't think we advertised or
[38:20] pushed it that well instead of having
just one big company and that company
[38:24] just was recently bought out and the
service hasn't been all that great.
[38:29] » Oh, so you're saying maybe the same way
with the grass cutting couple?
[38:32] » Yes. Okay,
>> that's a good idea. You want to add
[38:35] anything, Nick? So, no. I I think we all
agree with splitting it up to zones is
[38:39] starting to get become a very large
contract that could be difficult for um
[38:44] you know, not everybody is going to be
able to fill those shoes. So, to drive
[38:47] hopefully some more bids is that we're
going to break it up into zones. And
[38:51] then if they can bid at all, great. But
if they can only bid zone one, zone two,
[38:56] zone three, zone four, that we also
understand that too. or we may even just
[39:00] do it by parcel and look at who's the
best on each parcel and they'll
[39:03] understand with the bid package that we
have the the choice to go all cart
[39:07] » and I think you're going to get better
service that way because nobody's going
[39:10] to say oh I'm turning down that massive
contract like they're going to take it
[39:14] whether they can do it or not if it's
smaller it's going to be a lot easier to
[39:17] manage
>> understanding though we do have to draw
[39:20] the line though that we can't be
expected to follow 14 different
[39:23] contractor
>> right it's a little
[39:25] » does so so um the fear the last time
though is going out that way though it
[39:29] might drive up your prices because they
go, "Wow, if I'm having to go mobile and
[39:33] I'm only getting these three small
parcels, I'm not going to want the
[39:36] contract." So, um, but we're going to
we're going to try to find a way to just
[39:40] like the snow plowing, zoning it
possibly to where it more palatable, but
[39:44] smaller areas to where it might be for
contractors versus
[39:49] » my daughters are costing me a lot. I can
sign them up for a parcel or two.
[39:52] » There you go.
>> Okay. Any other discussion? And I am
[39:56] comfortable making a motion to seek bids
for grass cutting for 2027.
[40:01] » Need a second. Maserang Rogers.
>> Sure, I'll second.
[40:05] » We have We have a motion by Bright
Shaff, second by Maserang. We have
[40:09] further discussion. All in favor?
>> I motion carries.
[40:12] » Just because that's a bid that will be a
fine to be a final this evening. It's
[40:16] just allowing staff to go out to bid.
>> Okay. All right. So then the um the
[40:23] second item is to talk about snow
plowing on under the same premise as
[40:27] what we just discussed grass cutting. Um
so does anybody have any questions or
[40:32] discussion on that?
And I make a motion that we seek bids
[40:37] for the snow snow removal when it
happens.
[40:40] » Alderman Rogers.
>> I second.
[40:41] » Motion by Bright Shaff, second by
Rogers. We have further discussion. All
[40:45] in favor?
>> Opposed? Motion carries.
[40:47] » That'll do it this evening.
>> All right. We have no information
[40:50] services. So, we'll move to
miscellaneous. First is uh consideration
[40:54] of quotes for repairs at 900 Gregory
Lane. Who wants to lead?
[40:58] » Oh,
I'll be happy to kind of kick it off. Is
[41:02] that I I just want you to in front of
you though are the additional quotes
[41:06] that we we happen to receive from
another company yesterday. um they're
[41:10] pretty close to what Elite provided
except for the fact that with Elite they
[41:13] would also be bricking in the window
areas to at least make it somewhat
[41:18] decorative versus plywood um to be a
little more secure around those windows.
[41:23] Um but again, it's to replace most of
those doors up there that are wooden um
[41:28] with metal stronger metal doors.
>> Uh Susan and Terry
[41:34] » um I How long has this building been
just sitting there? I kind of I love
[41:40] this building. I would love to see it
repurposed. I'd love to see instead of
[41:45] us spending money to whitewash it and
and put new metal doors on it and put
[41:55] decorative plywood on it. Like either we
do something with it, we repurpose it,
[42:01] or we tear it down. But it's not to sit
there and keep,
[42:07] you know, doing these little repairs
does not make sense. And I would love
[42:12] I'd love to repurpose it. If there's
something that we can do with it, great.
[42:17] But or we need to look at tearing it
down. Maybe put a splash bed. You know,
[42:20] I love splash beds. But anyway, I'm just
throwing that out there.
[42:25] » Mary, uh, Susan, you pretty much stole
everything I was going to say.
[42:29] » Sorry. Um,
I I can't see spending a nickel on the
[42:33] place unless we have a reason or a
purpose for that building in the future.
[42:37] And we keep since I've been on the
board, it's come up a few times and we
[42:41] kind of just blew it off. But I but
every day that goes by, that thing
[42:44] deteriorates more. Um, we have no
conditioning there now. There's no
[42:48] electric there. So, the inside just
falling apart. I actually went up there
[42:52] today after receiving this email
yesterday from Nikki on the quotes cuz I
[42:57] wanted to see firsthand what those doors
look like and and you know where they
[43:02] were and what the options were. Um and I
I can't get past the rest of the
[43:07] building. I looked at the front walkway
to the front entrance and it's like
[43:12] Marramck Caverns. There's still
stellagmites hanging down from things
[43:15] that are leaking up there. Roofs that
are leaking. um flashing that's leaking
[43:22] that building needs I would like to look
at one what it would take to put that
[43:28] building back in service with an idea of
what we're going to do with it or two
[43:34] what it would cost to tear it down put
it back to green space I looked at it
[43:38] today in the perspective of
couple thing I'm going to I'm going to
[43:43] step back for a second I'm kind of
embarrassed that I said yes when we
[43:49] decided to spend the money on that
parking lot up there
[43:53] because I was against spending any money
for that building or surrounding area
[43:58] until I heard that it would be a great
parking lot for the the new playground
[44:02] and immediately I changed my mind and
said yes without looking into it. Today
[44:08] I walked that area and I thought to
myself, okay, if we fix this parking
[44:12] lot, what's it going to take to get up
to the playground?
[44:17] It's anybody with a stroller or a young
child is walking with hand is going to
[44:21] have to walk all the way down the hill
to Gregory away from the playground back
[44:27] up Gregory all the way to the bathroom
to the new uh sidewalk and then up to
[44:32] the playground. That's like an eighth of
a mile. But there's that it is also
[44:37] right across from what will be the
Stonegate Park where people can just
[44:44] walk up that new that street there.
>> Oh no, that's that's further up. That's
[44:49] about halfway between.
>> No, it's by that it's right across from
[44:52] the parking lot.
>> That'll have its own parking lot also.
[44:55] » Yeah. So smaller one.
>> So I'm envisioning that, too. But I
[44:59] think people in Stonegate are not going
to they're probably going to drive down
[45:03] and need a place to park. But anyway,
I'm I'm I'm getting off track here. I'm
[45:07] losing my train of thought. Um I wish I
would have stuck to my guns and said no
[45:11] on that parking lot because I feel like
we're throwing money there. We're
[45:15] throwing money away there, too. Well, I
realized when I drove up it today that I
[45:19] went through potholes, it is terrible,
but the fact that we're going to redo
[45:22] that and it's it's already in the works.
So, it's it's p past the point of no
[45:27] return, right? Um,
but it's it's silly to throw any more
[45:32] money at that building unless we have a
a purpose for that building. And I'm all
[45:36] for using it something or something that
that that building works for. I don't
[45:43] think there's a lot of different things
that are that building is really good
[45:46] for. It's pretty much one one use and
it's for jails, right? But somebody
[45:51] could come up with something. The fact
that we would it would have to be us
[45:55] though. the fact that we would maybe put
fix it up, put it on the market, then we
[46:00] got somebody living between what we own
here and what we own up there. And I
[46:06] don't think that's a good idea either.
So, if I'm getting off track, I
[46:08] apologize.
Who's next?
[46:11] » Well, I was just going to say it's too
bad we don't have someone with vision
[46:14] like that, Bob Cassley with City Museum
that could repurpose it, you know, make
[46:18] something cool out of it.
But so here's a thought that just came
[46:23] to me is you know we have all this stuff
at public works which is on the other
[46:28] side of the city. What if we gutted this
building out and created a couple salt
[46:37] bins, mulch bins, a place to park some
trucks. I what? But it might be an
[46:45] option to just gut it out and sounds
like it has all this concrete there, but
[46:51] maybe we could build a garage or
something to store some public works.
[46:58] Just a thought, but I'd love to save the
building if we could. I I love that.
[47:04] Uh, so yeah. So my comment is I, you
know, I think tonight we're looking at
[47:08] securing the building because I've heard
we've got people that get in and you
[47:14] know that could cause a hazard or if
they get hurt while they're inside the
[47:17] building because we didn't secured it,
then they could come back at the city of
[47:20] Fenton, right, and come after us for
something. So I I'm for securing the
[47:24] building. I don't disagree. We need to
get something on the calendar to have
[47:29] further discussion about what we could
do with that. Um, I do like maybe using
[47:34] it for storage. Uh, public works, we
definitely have a lot of equipment that
[47:37] sits outside, uh, during the wintertime,
uh, that we sits outside. We don't have
[47:43] enough indoor storage. We looked at one
point in time increasing the building
[47:47] over at public works. That's a pretty
big ticket item when maybe this building
[47:51] up there could be used for some of that.
If we brick in some of it, put a garage
[47:56] door in, they could put lawnmowers or
whatever else in there for the winter
[47:58] time, right? Or whatever else we're
going to do. Um, so yes, I think get
[48:03] something on the thing, but I'm for
securing the building tonight.
[48:06] » I I'd just like to say I don't know if
some of the stuff from I called the
[48:08] mayor about a week and a half, two weeks
ago. I was walking my kids up to the new
[48:11] park and the doors were busted open. The
window I know there was somebody in
[48:15] there. Um, obviously didn't go in
because it was my family, but I think
[48:18] that is what some of this stem from. It
does need to be, you know, you don't
[48:22] know who's living in there or what's
going on in there. And it's right next
[48:25] to a playground that we just built. So,
I do think we need to better secure that
[48:31] building right now.
>> So, secure it with the caveat that it's
[48:36] time we do something with it.
>> So, I was just going to I was just going
[48:40] to tag on to that too, you know. Um I
was with Terry today and we walked that
[48:45] around the building twice, by the way.
100 degree weather, you know, but I I
[48:51] think the time has come that
we get serious. Get get Cochran in. Can
[48:59] the front of that building One thing I I
thought, well, where the where the
[49:04] concrete where the blocks are, the glass
blocks, can we can we remove that and
[49:08] structurally will it stand make a
pavilion out of that? Um, like you say,
[49:15] uh, storage for moors or something. I I
don't know. But it's time. I think I
[49:21] think let's just get on it and start see
what it would cost to tear it down. See
[49:25] what it would cost. The bids aren't
really that expensive to get. Get some
[49:30] ideas from Cochran how structurally
support what we can do to to cut out.
[49:37] » Just to to add on, I think um the
security is an issue. So, but however,
[49:41] since the future's uncertain, maybe we
go to the minimal amount of we don't
[49:46] spend a lot any more money than we have
to just to lock it up.
[49:51] So my idea, Nikki, um I think three of
the doors are in the on either side of
[49:56] the bay where police offic used to drive
and then the fourth one is the front
[50:03] door.
>> That correct?
[50:14] » So it doesn't.
[50:18] » Okay. Those double doors.
>> Yes.
[50:29] I was thinking something on the lines of
boarding boarding the windows up and
[50:34] » it's not Yeah, it's
>> get in the wood. The wood doesn't last
[50:37] very long.
>> Ripped it off.
[50:42] » Well, we need some ideas on to do or we
spend $13,000 and put brand new doors in
[50:47] a building that we
>> I mean I think I don't think we have a
[50:50] choice right now. I think we have to
secure it. you don't know what is going
[50:53] on in there when it's being broken into.
And again, that could lead to something
[50:56] » 11 worse for the city.
>> Again, please note with the difference
[51:00] in the bids is that the the one that was
received yesterday is just for the
[51:05] doors. The one with the lead is the
doors and the um
[51:08] » the sheet well the the windows. It's
it's filling in the windows brick.
[51:14] » Oh, okay.
[51:17] So, uh, can I just make to secure the
building as best as you deem fit because
[51:26] I'm that's not my specialty. Um, but
then also to move forward with let's
[51:32] come up with how much would it cost to
tear it down, get conquering to see what
[51:38] our options are with that building. Is
it how much would it be to fix it up and
[51:43] do something with it or turn it into
Does Dan need storage for some of his?
[51:52] » So, I think that's a multi-step as I see
it. Right. So, first is is the building
[51:57] viable? Yes or no?
>> But I'm just saying that's my motion is
[52:00] to
>> a secure and b start looking at what
[52:05] we're going to do with it.
>> Yep.
[52:07] » Okay.
>> I need a second. Do we know which one
[52:10] we're going with? We need to
>> Which one? for
[52:14] » we we have two.
>> Oh,
[52:17] » uh
>> elite.
[52:19] » I'm not so sure about breaking that
glass in right now.
[52:24] » I can just have elite do the doors, but
I we need to get we need to secure the
[52:28] windows.
>> I I I just I guess with if you put
[52:32] plywood up, they don't it doesn't take
them very long to get through that.
[52:36] » And where those windows are, I think.
>> Is this brick going to be removable?
[52:40] Or we turn the brick out, turn the glass
out and bricken the glass in.
[52:47] And if we want to put the glass back,
>> brick can be removed.
[52:50] » Knock the brick out.
>> Okay.
[52:59] » What are we thinking?
>> So Susan made a motion that we secure
[53:03] the building.
>> Yes.
[53:05] » But which contract?
>> So do we go with this?
[53:08] » We're deciding which contract.
>> Oh.
[53:10] Do we want to go with elite properties?
Oh, they are.
[53:16] » Thank you. I got the properties.
>> It's 113 combined
[53:22] » there. 11330.
[53:28] » Man, that's a lot of money.
>> Oh, I should
[53:32] just to get us month or two to I mean, I
know we got to secure it, but
[53:39] » Okay. So, I didn't look at that one.
Elite.
[53:43] » Go with elite.
And we like elite. Not just that, not
[53:49] just but uh we've used elite. We've
appreciated their work.
[53:55] » And so there
>> and and we can work with them to see if
[53:58] there's a different or more cost
effective way and explain to them what
[54:02] the the board's decision is. Um, if you
would like to make that a final motion
[54:05] this evening so we can get them started
on that is
[54:08] » but but I do agree for the record I
would like to see alternatives that will
[54:12] work
>> for the windows
[54:14] » for the windows possible.
>> That that was exactly what I
[54:19] » All right. So we need a second. Alderman
Lang.
[54:22] » Second
>> motion by Joker. Second by Lang. Further
[54:25] discussion. All in favor? Opposed?
Motion carries.
[54:29] » All right. Next is the uh dates for the
budget hearing or public hearing uh for
[54:34] our budget. Nikki, you who did the Jane,
you want to run with this one?
[54:39] » Uh next, we got one more.
>> Next is the uh general election general
[54:44] election.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. The uh bill for uh to the
[54:48] September general election
uh be held April 6th, city of Fenton
[54:55] candidate filing.
>> Okay.
[54:59] I would make that motion.
>> Okay, we need a second. Mazerang,
[55:01] » I'll second.
>> Motion by Whisbrock, second by Mazerang.
[55:04] Further discussion. All in favor?
Opposed? Motion carries.
[55:08] » Now we'll move to the budget hearing
dates.
[55:12] » Reference.
>> Yep. And it's just uh typically you
[55:15] would like to do it an hour in advance
of either the one of the two committee
[55:20] meetings or the board meeting which
would be November 19th. So the options
[55:24] are November 5th, November 12th or
November 19th. However, um staff
[55:28] suggests that you go with one of the
earlier fifth or 12th if uh there's a
[55:32] chance that you may want to continue it
to have another uh session as we have
[55:36] the last couple of years.
>> That's why I think because it's uh I'm
[55:40] going to be out of town for the 19th one
and to do it before the full board
[55:44] meeting. I think it's better to do it
before committee meeting
[55:49] » for the fifth.
>> I I would make the motion for the fifth.
[55:52] » Okay, we need a second. Right sh
>> I would second. Okay, we have a motion
[55:56] by Whisbrock, second by Bright. Further
discussion? Jokers, you have any
[56:00] question?
>> No, I'll second.
[56:01] » No, we got that. All in favor? I
>> opposed. Motion carries. Uh, finally,
[56:08] consideration request from NextGen
Recreation to reduce certain insurance
[56:12] requirements under the city's contract.
>> Yep. Um, last month you approved for
[56:16] staff to move forward with our our
standard public work, our small public
[56:19] works contract um with NextGen to do the
needed repairs to the um playgrounds in
[56:25] Fenton City Park and Westside Park. Um
they are they're willing to sign our
[56:30] contract. The only issue is they weren't
able to meet the required limits on
[56:34] automobile insurance um which would be
very low risk on this type of contract.
[56:39] So, they're asking that you wave um
those requirements and
[56:44] » city attorney weigh in.
>> Um
[56:47] » no, I mean that's exactly it. It's
because they um are able to use an
[56:52] umbrella policy to get them up. They
actually only have 2 million in gender
[56:55] aggurate. Of course, we require like
three, five, seven members. We require
[57:00] over 3.5 million, but they also have the
umbrella excess liability of 2 million
[57:04] which could amount. The problem is it is
very common that these uh companies only
[57:09] have one million in auto insurance
umbrella. It only gets you up to three
[57:14] million. So you're still a little over
5,000.
[57:18] Um but this just covers the
automobile which there you care more
[57:24] about.
There's not much gravel involved.
[57:28] » You don't sound too concerned.
>> Not about this.
[57:31] » Okay. Alman Hills.
>> I'll make that motion. And can we have
[57:34] that as a final please?
>> Whisbrock. And this is a final.
[57:37] » Make it a final motion.
>> Second.
[57:39] » Motion by second by Whisbrock. Further
discussion. All in favor?
[57:44] » Motion carries.
>> Turn.
[57:45] » Your turn.
>> Okay. I'd like to close the meeting
[57:47] pursuant to section 610.211
legal actions, causes of action or
[57:52] litigation and section 610.0212
lease, purchase or sale of real estate.
[58:00] » We good? One and two.
You you said
[58:06] » okay. Need a second. Alderman Lang.
>> Second.
[58:09] » Motion by Hughes. Second by Lang.
Further discussion. Roll call, please.
[58:14] » Alderwoman Heels.
>> Hi.
[58:15] » Alderman Lang.
>> Hi.
[58:16] » Alderman Bridechef.
>> Hi.
[58:17] » Alderman Whisper.
>> Hi.
[58:18] » Alderman Rogers.
>> Hi.
[58:20] » Alderwoman Joker.
>> Alderman Mazerang.
[58:22] » Hi.
>> Motion carries.