[0:00] You are in good shape. [0:02] So I'm calling this meeting [0:04] to order at Monday the 5th of January [0:06] at 6 32. [0:10] The year is 2026. We're still here. [0:15] It's the Grandville Hancock Unified District Board. [0:18] Good morning. Any adjustments to the agenda? [0:22] I have only one, which is the addition to discuss [0:28] as item 5.3, the superintendent evaluation. [0:33] I do not need an executive session unless you do. [0:36] Okay, great then I don't think we need one. [0:39] Thanks Tara. I don't [0:41] Have any of my stuff home with me so [0:43] Fair enough. [0:45] Okay, so we'll move along [0:46] to the minutes from our regular monthly meeting from [0:49] December 1st, 2025. [0:51] If anyone would like to move. We'll second those [1:00] I motion to approve the minutes from [1:02] the December regular meeting. [1:04] Thanks Samantha. Is there second? [1:13] Hearing none. I'll second them. Any discussion? [1:18] Okay, hearing man. So moved reports to the board. [1:22] I'm assuming Jamie is with our said. [1:24] So we will come back to him. [1:26] Tara, would you like to take it? [1:29] So my report just outlines what's happening as far [1:32] as reporting out of the business office during the month [1:35] of January in addition to budgets, budget mailers, [1:41] multiple drafts of budgets. [1:43] So if there's any questions, [1:47] Any questions for Tara? [1:53] Okay, thank you Tara. [1:56] I need to get up actually the, [2:00] where are the minutes from last month. [2:04] Do I see that? Okay. [2:08] So moving right along to the policy committee update. [2:11] The policy committee did not meet this past month. [2:16] We had a special meeting instead [2:19] of the negotiations committee. [2:20] I can update you all on [2:22] that if you'd like in executive session. [2:25] The summary, the summary is things are, [2:28] things are moving along very swimmingly. [2:29] We have a really good negotiations team [2:31] as does the support staff negotiations have kicked off [2:34] and they are, we are working really [2:39] well and amicably to pull something together that, [2:44] tangent aside, we, that means we haven't met [2:46] as a policy committee, which means my, [2:50] which means I don't have an update other than this is the [2:53] next reading of policies 33 C 33 and C 36. [2:58] C 33 is the K [3:01] through eight inter-district supervisory union transfer [3:05] as I mentioned last month. [3:07] This one is now in discussion at the full board [3:09] and we'll probably come back to district boards. [3:14] C 36 was also moved out of [3:18] committee at our last meeting [3:20] and got its first reading by the full board last month. [3:23] That one did not see a whole lot of discussion. [3:26] I anticipate now that we are on the other side of holidays [3:29] and special meetings, we will see a little more on that one. [3:34] If you anyone has questions [3:36] or comments on either of those policies, let me know. [3:43] I think that this is our third reading for both of them, [3:45] which means they may be warned for action next month. [3:48] We'll see what happens at the next full board meeting, [3:51] but let's be prepared to vote on that. [3:58] Okay, we will table 5.1 until Jamie joins us. [4:02] Tara, do you know if he's planning [4:03] to join us at a specific time? [4:06] He was doing act 73 updates when I left [4:09] to join you. So I would then [4:11] Join us to do them again. [4:13] Right, so when Jamie returns we will hear his report [4:18] to the board as well as his act 73 update [4:22] session starts tomorrow [4:24] and I am sure [4:26] that we will be hearing quite a lot about that. [4:29] So then moving along to 5.2, which is draft number three [4:34] of our fiscal year 27 expenditure budget. [4:37] Tara, back to you. [4:42] I won't be able to see you once I switch [4:44] to my other screen so if you have questions [4:47] We smiling, we'll be smiling brightly, just [4:49] Yell at me. [4:53] So what I have updated in this draft since our last review [4:58] is only the SU central office [5:02] and special education assessments [5:05] and those are based on the SU approved budgets [5:08] from the last board meeting. [5:10] So you'll see central offices down [5:12] and special education is up for an overall [5:16] increase in assessments of $543. [5:20] As you all may remember [5:22] 'cause you are veterans to the board announced tuition rates [5:25] have to be set by the 15th of January. [5:28] So I will be making adjustments to the tuition [5:33] for the next draft of the budget based on [5:34] what those announced tuition rates are. [5:36] Right now we're using a 6% placeholder, [5:41] didn't make any changes on the revenue side of things. [5:44] Just that one on the bottom. [5:45] And now you can actually, this time you're gonna see your [5:47] tax sheet which has some pretty [5:51] basic information in it for the time being. [5:55] Again, the yield is still the December one yield letter [6:00] that the December one letter yield that we are using, [6:05] your long-term weighted average [6:08] dropped from 1 92 0.43 [6:11] to 1 78 0.40. [6:15] So your education spending [6:18] is at $13,493 and 18 cents. [6:24] We take that education spending per pupil cost, we divide [6:27] that by the yield [6:31] and that gives us the equalized residential tax rate [6:35] of 1.5248. [6:38] The ACT 1 27 deduction is still in statute [6:43] A OE just hasn't given us any indications if they're going [6:47] to change the formula being used for that. [6:50] So right now I just have it in as it was [6:54] for fiscal year 26. [6:55] It's highlighted there 'cause that number may change. [6:58] So that gives you an FY 27 preliminary equalized tax rate [7:04] of 1.5137. [7:07] I do not have yields, not yield, sorry CS yet. [7:11] So all I am using is a projected CLA that was given to us [7:16] by the tax department with the December one letter. [7:20] And as you can see they both are at 76% currently [7:24] and that's still using the statewide CLA adjustment, [7:28] which is projected to be 70% this year. [7:32] So we take that equalized preliminary tax rate of [7:35] that 1.5137. [7:37] We divide it by the current projected CLA [7:41] of 76% [7:43] and that gives us a homestead tax rate in each town [7:46] of 1.9917. [7:50] And then that gives us an increase [7:53] of 30.09 cents in grandville [7:56] and 30.93 cents in Hancock equates out [8:01] to $300 and $309 at a hundred thousand dollars in value. [8:07] So all of those numbers are still subject to change based on [8:11] where we actually end up on the cs. [8:19] Do you know when the final CLA numbers are expected? [8:22] I usually have them by now, so I'm surprised that I don't, [8:25] we usually end up getting them right around the end [8:28] of de mid to end December. [8:29] So I would expect them anytime. [8:31] I know it's been a conversation [8:34] that multiple business managers have brought [8:36] up throughout VA sbo. [8:40] Any questions for Tara? [8:46] Oh, I also wanted to know, I'm assuming that this [8:51] does not reflect, [8:52] because it hasn't happened, the governor's proposal [8:56] to buy down by 50% [9:02] the deficit that the, the deficit in the ED fund? [9:05] No, 'cause this is still using that 12 one yield. Okay. [9:08] So any changes that they make throughout the legislative [9:10] session or any of those budgets will end up like we did [9:13] several years ago with the different yield amounts. [9:17] So if he makes those additional changes then [9:19] we'll get a revised yield. [9:22] Okay. I Stacy, yeah, this is Samantha. [9:28] I think that I, [9:32] I'm pretty sure that state finance officials [9:38] may discussed already in like pre-session hearings [9:42] that they would be looking [9:44] to do a buydown in the annual budget adjustment. [9:47] So that happens. I mean typically it happens [9:51] before February last year there was no budget adjustment [9:56] that was approved by the governor ultimately, [10:00] but, so if that did happen we would have, [10:04] Tara would have updated yield projections [10:09] like before March if they do it in the budget adjustment. [10:16] Okay. Thanks for that Intel. Hi Jamie. [10:24] Well yeah, I, I mean we'll have [10:29] to see what the final numbers do to this. [10:32] Speaking personally, you know, I don't know [10:35] that I could look anybody in our town, [10:37] including myself in the face [10:38] and try to justify an almost 60% increase in two years [10:42] in property tax rates. [10:44] Like it just, and I don't know if [10:48] that means we need to go, you know, try [10:52] to testify in front of committee [10:53] and show them what this is looking like, you know, [10:57] because I, I do feel like part of part [11:01] of the problem is they're not looking at these tax [11:03] calculations and understanding how we're getting here. [11:09] Yes. Jamie, you I, we can't hear you. [11:40] It's very quiet. It got very quiet. [11:42] I think he'll come back. Oh, Brittany's coming on. [12:12] Oh. But thank you Tara, as usual. [12:17] You present this in a way that's really clear [12:19] to read even if the numbers [12:24] don't, don't do what we want them to do. [12:27] Yeah, I'm with you on the numbers. [12:32] I have a, I have a rogue question. [12:34] Are do any of the Grandville members know, [12:37] do you have an appraisal underway right now? [12:40] A reappraisal? [12:43] I believe we do. I've, yeah, I've been apprised. [12:48] I think Cheryl announced something about it at time [12:50] meeting last year. [12:54] Okay. I'm not sure if I do to be honest. [12:59] Hi Clayton. I, [13:02] if there is a town wide reappraisal underway are, [13:06] are the new, [13:08] do the new values go into this fiscal year's projections [13:11] or is that, I'm I thought [13:13] that would take a quite a few years. [13:14] It depends on when you finished. [13:17] Okay. Yeah, if they finish it, so the grand list, [13:21] I think currently the statutory deadline [13:23] for the certification on the grand list [13:25] is ev either April 1st or April 15th. [13:29] So if, if any towns reappraisal is completed [13:33] before that recertification deadline, then it would impact [13:38] the school, the that year's upcoming school budget. [13:41] Okay. So in theory, I mean I don't know, [13:45] that would be like pretty wild for, for our unified board. [13:49] 'cause there could be a scenario where like Greenville's [13:54] CLA is a hundred or like 105 [13:58] and tax rates are adjusted favorably in Grandville. [14:02] And then, I mean God knows, [14:04] I think Hancock's last year was like 64, [14:07] Right? [14:08] Yeah. Okay. [14:10] We have that in another district in RSU [14:12] where one town reappraised and the other didn't [14:14] and that's the exact scenario. [14:16] Yeah. [14:18] Okay. Lemme text Jamie, [14:22] I'm assuming he's restarting some stuff. [14:25] Oh hi Jamie. [14:29] Am I back? You're back. [14:31] That is me being as tech savvy as I can get to figure out [14:34] how to turn a microphone back on. [14:37] So you threw your computer out the window [14:38] and then went outside to fetch it and then it worked. [14:41] So I was just gonna say to the board, right, [14:42] we had a 30 cent increase two years ago [14:46] and then last year the tax rate actually we saw savings [14:51] and now we're at 30% increase again, which I just got asked [14:55] to testify to senate it in on Friday afternoon. [14:58] I was gonna speak to the fact that one of the issues I, [15:02] I think that Vermonters have [15:04] with the ED funding system right now is how unpredictable [15:07] the tax rates are due to the variables that are outside [15:11] of the district's control. [15:13] Right, right. [15:22] Yeah, no, like I said, I'm just not sure what to, [15:26] I'm not sure what to do with this information at this point. [15:28] So we'll see what it looks like [15:29] when the final numbers come in. [15:31] Sorry, I know you just took it off the screen Tara, [15:34] but what, what's our real projected budget increase? [15:37] Is it 11% for expenditures? [15:48] 6.15? 6.15, [15:49] 6.15. [15:50] That's, I don't, sorry, I'm switching. [15:53] Yeah, well I mean we're kind of going out of order [15:56] and when Jamie gives his report, [15:58] his written report talks about some of the reasons [16:01] for the tax increase that are beyond what's going, you know, [16:04] so maybe what we should do is backup [16:07] to Jamie's superintendent report [16:08] and he can talk to some A DM numbers that have come in [16:13] because I think that also is a factor. [16:20] Yeah. So I mean in general across the entire supervisory [16:24] union we've seen a decrease in our long-term weighted [16:26] average daily membership, which is made up [16:29] of our average daily membership, which is a spotlight [16:34] of, well it's, it's [16:35] how many students you have enrolled in your district. [16:37] But the average daily membership is taken [16:40] during three weeks in October. [16:44] And so if you have a student move in [16:49] in September and then you had two students move out in [16:53] October and one of those is that student that moved into [16:58] September for example, like you don't get credit for 'em, [17:01] you only get credit on average for the students [17:03] that you have in your district [17:07] for the three weeks in October. [17:09] And the long-term weighted average daily membership [17:12] is made up of average daily membership [17:14] and weights from a two year rolling average. [17:19] And so what we've seen is, is [17:21] that our average daily membership is down in our districts [17:26] in addition to our weights are down [17:28] because we've seen a decrease in the number [17:32] of students qualifying for free and reduced lunch. [17:35] And a big chunk of that is due to the fact that less [17:39] of our students appear to be getting direct served due [17:44] to the fact that they qualify for Medicaid [17:46] because of some of the sunset language [17:48] that occurred in regards to Medicaid. [17:52] We had families who were still being served via Medicaid due [17:56] to parameters of the pandemic previously [18:00] that have now sunset for this current year in regards [18:04] to calculations of free and reduced lunch numbers. [18:08] Because families either no longer qualified due to income [18:12] or didn't take the opportunity to refill out the forms [18:16] to requalify for Medicaid, [18:18] they may actually still even qualify financially [18:21] but didn't reapply. [18:24] And so we have seen direct serve numbers across the SU [18:28] decrease for free [18:29] and reduced lunch categor, you know, Cate [18:34] being categorized as qualifying for free and reduced lunch [18:38] because the Medicaid direct certain numbers have decreased [18:41] across the SU [18:43] and a reminder [18:45] that lunch now is free universally across the state. [18:50] So we actually ask families to fill out [18:53] and districts that you send your kids to are annual income [19:00] declaration forms. [19:01] They're no longer free and reduced lunch forms. [19:04] And so we're relying on families filling out those [19:08] family income forms or qualifying for free [19:12] and reduced lunch due to direct serve. [19:13] And what we've seen is not [19:15] that less families are filling out the income forms. [19:17] We've seen less families qualifying for free [19:19] and reduced lunch due to the fact [19:21] that they no longer qualify for Medicaid. [19:28] So those weights have impacted us as well in our long term [19:34] weighted average daily membership. [19:38] I, So the big two reasons [19:43] for your taxes going up as much as they are of course is CLA [19:49] and a loss in pupils, [19:52] which you would say means less tuition spent [19:56] but not necessarily right, [19:58] because it's the long-term weighted average daily [20:01] membership, not necessarily enrollment into schools, [20:06] not enough to offset, you know, [20:10] what we're expecting [20:11] to be announced increases in in tuition and things of that nature. [20:15] 'cause your budget's still up 6%. [20:17] Right. Tara, can you remind me of our actual [20:22] student population this year? [20:30] As of November 26th, I had 85 students [20:34] that had been confirmed [20:35] and I still had eight [20:40] schools that I hadn't been invoiced from yet. [20:44] So that number could rise. [20:46] Yep. We have 91 in the budget currently. [20:49] Okay. And that's 91 [20:51] and that's down from enrollment from last year. [20:54] So right now from 1126 we had 85 [20:57] that had been counted based on tuition invoices. [21:00] We had 90 in your fiscal year 26 budget. [21:06] And then I have, [21:11] there are five 12th graders leaving [21:16] from it and I had four [21:21] coming into the tuition pool. [21:25] So once I have all the tuition invoices in, [21:28] which I believe I do now [21:30] 'cause I was waiting on Middlebury, [21:35] I'll be able to update that for our next draft. [21:38] Okay. 'cause I think everybody else has since come in [21:42] maybe R one of the Randolph schools [21:43] I might still be missing. [21:46] Okay, [21:50] thank you Tara. [21:51] Any other questions for Tara? [21:53] We're kind of, we're a little bit all over the place [21:55] but we're discussing, we are on 5.2 [21:59] and also back to 4.1 Jamie's update at this point. [22:04] So I would take questions on those, Jamie, [22:06] if you have anything to add to your report to the board [22:10] or you can also jump in there [22:14] Just that, you know, it's, it's really [22:19] challenging in regards to what we can control locally [22:22] and expenditure budget to make up [22:25] a drop in our long-term weighted average daily [22:28] membership like that. [22:30] Is it, it is really hard if we lose a chunk of students in [22:34] that count to be able to curb enough in revenue [22:37] and expenditures to not have it result significantly on an [22:42] increase in taxes [22:48] of which I think argues for the fact [22:50] that we gotta figure out a better way [22:54] to address the ED funding formula. [22:56] And I think that is what taxpayers have been asking for [22:59] for a while now is more predictability. [23:04] Right. And so what I see, [23:06] because I, you know, as we've long discussed as a board [23:10] and as members of the RSCA is [23:16] the implementation of ACT 73 [23:18] or as much as we know of how of, you know, what [23:21] that implementation looks like, which is still a little [23:23] init, doesn't promise any cost savings. [23:26] So like pa you know, like we, [23:29] our towns passed our budgets two years ago at I think 38 [23:33] and 36% increases per town based on the fact that [23:39] there was a big mandate to make changes [23:44] that would fix the out of control spiraling [23:47] of property taxes unrelated [23:48] to the increased cost of like raw education. [23:51] And I don't have any, I personally don't have any belief [23:55] that what's happening now is gonna change this. [23:58] I think we'll be sitting here in a couple, like, I I [24:02] I just don't think it's, I don't think that what [24:05] is being proposed is going [24:06] to fix the property tax increases. [24:08] And so asking people to pay another [24:13] 18% increase when I cannot pr when I don't have any faith [24:18] that the system is gonna change is, [24:19] is PR is a challenge for me. [24:22] Prima, we, [24:24] I think that's partly why they gotta talk more instead [24:27] of talking about possibly governance. [24:31] Right. Although I think most folks think [24:34] that we don't need 52 superintendents [24:36] and I think there are places in the state [24:38] where we don't need 52 superintendents [24:43] that, and I think there are places where we need [24:45] to do a better job of working together to curb costs [24:49] that are, are outta control [24:55] and we need to, that we ought to be able [24:58] to have a funding formula that provides more predictability. [25:01] Right. Right. And what the issue I think we have right now [25:04] with our funding formula is your taxes went up, [25:07] I believe 30 cents one year. [25:09] Tara, how much did they go down last year? [25:13] 10 and 12 respectively. [25:14] 10 and 12 cents and now we're back up 30 again. Right. [25:17] Like and so you know, the one plus of the foundation formula [25:22] for a district like yours is [25:24] the weight just falls the student, [25:27] Right. [25:29] You're not left to the devices of whatever other districts [25:34] try to make up possibly for, you know, [25:40] shortfalls in regards to revenue and [25:42] or increases of expenditure via announced tuitions. [25:46] Right. 'cause the weight would just follow the student [25:48] to that receiving school. [25:53] Samantha? Yeah, I'm just, I'm gonna go back a beat. [25:59] So our long-term daily average is [26:03] calculated during a period of three weeks in October. [26:07] Yep. The whole state. But it's [26:09] Calculated Currently January [26:13] and we are showing a 10% [26:17] lower enrollment than we know our budget will carry. [26:24] Your LTW ADMs not even made just off [26:26] of those three weeks, Samantha. [26:28] It's made off of last year. [26:30] It's three weeks and this year's three weeks, which [26:33] Is your but in October. Every time, [26:36] Every time. [26:38] This is So what, This is what I'm saying this is, [26:41] this is part of the problem is how we go about [26:45] finding L-T-W-A-D-M [26:48] and then you add onto it lots of different [26:52] weights on top of your A DM based on things like sparsity [26:56] or whether the student's in elementary school versus high [26:59] school or whether the student qualifies for free [27:02] and reduced lunch or not. [27:10] Tara, do you have on hand [27:12] what our long-term weighted daily average is? [27:16] It's right on the tax sheet. Oh, [27:18] Sorry. [27:19] It, it dropped from 1 92 0.43 [27:21] to 1 78 0.40 [27:36] And you don't have expenditures to cut [27:40] to rectify that. [27:42] That's my point. Like that that is where [27:45] we're in a rock and a hard place. [27:47] Like when we lose students in your district via L-T-W-A-D-M, [27:51] it's, it's, it's a killer [27:57] because it drops your per pupil cost from 11 7 9 4 up [28:01] to 13 4 9 3. [28:13] I mean your, your tax increase is the change in [28:16] that plus you know, accounting for [28:18] what we're seeing is 6% increased announced tuition. [28:22] Hopefully that stays true. [28:24] But you, you know, Tara does a nice job there of showing you [28:27] that that change in the equalized tax rate [28:29] before CLA was 1.37 up to 1.52. [28:34] The biggest, the biggest piece to that is [28:37] that drop in L-T-W-A-D-M. [28:40] Yeah. [28:48] Okay. I don't think there's much we can do with this [28:52] until we see the final CLA numbers. [29:00] My guess is we'll have [29:01] to have some conversations about using the rest [29:05] of our tuition reserve fund, [29:12] but I think we can have that conversation at another time. [29:14] But I do want you to think about [29:16] that 'cause that's the only thing we have. [29:24] Okay. Anything else on this? [29:30] Samantha? Still have a question? Oh [29:31] Samantha, do you have your hand up [29:32] for a new question? No, [29:34] That's all. Thank you. [29:36] Sure. Okay. Thank you again Tara. [29:39] Thanks for going back and forth on this with us. [29:42] Thanks Jamie. So superintendent's report [29:47] and then Jamie, we had also passed over 5.1, [29:49] the ACT 73 update, if you have anything to add, [29:56] session starts tomorrow. This [29:58] Is why we're talking about it. [29:59] Right? I mean so within [30:04] my report I think I'll, I'll focus on the act 73 update. [30:08] So session starts tomorrow. [30:13] I fully expect [30:15] that the governor will come out pretty strongly [30:19] in opposition to the task force report. [30:23] Not even necessarily based on a policy perspective, [30:26] but focused on the fact that the task force did not [30:32] provide a map [30:36] of which they could have just provided one. [30:37] Right. That included SU I think you're gonna hear a lot [30:41] of language around they didn't fulfill their obligation [30:44] and less focus on actual the policy report they [30:47] provided, which there's a lot of good there in regards [30:50] to the policy report. [30:52] And so if you haven't had a chance to read it, [30:54] I'm more than happy to send you a copy if [30:58] that would be helpful for board members [31:00] to have a copy of that report. [31:03] Would that be helpful if I just sign, send the PDF? [31:07] Yeah, I think if you sent it I've looked at it, [31:09] but if you send it around, it's sometimes not easy [31:11] to navigate that website. [31:12] Yeah, I'll send it. So it's in your emails in boxes. [31:17] The only other updates I have is I did get invited [31:20] to testify in front of Senate ed on Friday at three. [31:24] That's after the VS. Will have testified on Thursday. [31:28] I think that they're, that's a positive opportunity [31:30] to be able to respond in regards to [31:33] what testimony they provide on Act 73. [31:37] That's this Friday. That's this Friday at three. [31:40] I have a half hour with them. [31:45] The other thing I guess I can update is [31:47] that I am gonna be joining [31:52] WDEV on Thursday morning with Zuckerman on his radio show [31:59] with David and to discuss ACT 73 [32:03] from 10 to 11. [32:10] You know, I, I think there's gonna be times we're gonna need [32:12] to be active and educate our elected officials [32:17] about why the policy within the task [32:21] force makes a lot of sense. [32:23] And I think that it's going to be another long [32:29] marathon slug fest in regards to where we end up with [32:35] I, you know, I think that [32:41] that there right, we could get to [32:43] that maps actually hit the floor [32:46] or there could be a real likelihood [32:47] that Act 73 has changed some to more align [32:51] with the task force report [32:52] and that maps may not even hit the floor. [32:54] So stay tuned. I think as we finalize budgets [33:00] it's gonna better dictate what direction that may go. [33:04] Okay. Meaning I think if budgets are [33:09] up and people are unhappy, [33:10] I think there's gonna be more political will [33:13] to push toward maps hitting the, the floor. [33:16] Yeah. No other W-I-V-S-U districts have [33:20] passed their budgets yet. Is that correct? [33:22] No, no. We've got, Tara [33:24] and I have a sprint [33:27] of a marathon over the next three weeks to try to get us there. [33:30] Good luck. You know, [33:33] in general we have several districts at the expenditure [33:36] budgets are actually under 3%. [33:38] Okay. But, but, but like you, we are, we are faced [33:41] with a decrease in L-T-W-A-D-M this year. Yeah, [33:45] Okay. [33:47] Of which the governor had that information. [33:49] Just so the board knows, they know [33:52] what the district's L-T-W-A-D-M will be when [33:55] that D one letter comes out or at least the estimates. [33:58] And when he talked about average 12%, [34:00] he knew in general multiple districts were gonna be losing [34:03] L-T-W-A-D-M. [34:04] Right. There's very few that gained any. [34:10] Okay. Thank you Jamie. [34:13] Any questions for the superintendent? [34:19] Okay. Hearing none. Thank you. You are off the hook. [34:24] The only other agenda item we have was this 5.3, [34:27] which is the superintendent evaluation report. [34:29] Just to note that if you haven't completed that, [34:34] when you go to complete it, [34:36] it says this thing is due on [34:38] December 15th or whatever the deadline is. [34:40] That has certainly prevented a couple of people from [34:44] clicking the button and doing it. [34:45] Anyway, please do it anyway. [34:47] If you could please do it this week. [34:48] If you haven't, I would love to get [34:52] those just done so that we can get to the other side of [34:55] that process and not have to worry about it. [34:58] Actually the new form, I went and did it [35:00] and the new format is a, [35:02] is a little bit faster than the one we were using. [35:04] So the Google form we're using is [35:06] speedier than SurveyMonkey. [35:07] So get it done. Please let me know if you need help. [35:12] I'm happy to come round with tech [35:14] or meet you in the library [35:15] with some technology if that's a problem. [35:17] But please try and get it done. [35:19] I will send an email reminder in a couple of days, [35:21] but hopefully that can just, you can feel really good [35:24] and virtuous because you'll read [35:25] that email and you'll have already done it. [35:29] So thank you for that. [35:32] We don't need an executive session tonight. [35:35] And our next meeting is warned [35:37] for the second over in Grandville at six 30. [35:40] Is there any other business or any future agenda items? [35:47] Okay, I will be watching some [35:49] of the hearings this week if you need, if anyone wants [35:54] a play by play, please let me know that there will, [35:58] you know, everything will be live streamed of course. [36:00] And Jamie will be testifying on Friday [36:04] and carry on. [36:06] I just had a quick remark to make. [36:08] I had heard that this was being floated, [36:10] but it's now being reported on by Vermont Public [36:13] that Senate Pro Roof is considering a bill [36:18] to push forth hard caps on school district budgets [36:24] for this year and next. [36:28] I had heard that that could be a possibility that [36:32] that might be introduced and they did seem to report on it. [36:40] And so with that, I actually, I would say to you, I don't, [36:45] I'm not in support of a hard cap, [36:47] but I think that signals that there could be movement to try [36:52] to pursue an alternative to school redistricting maps. [36:55] I actually could foresee that as a positive [36:59] leadership is signaling that this early in the session. [37:04] Thanks for that. And that is, yeah, you can find that on. [37:12] Okay. Any hope for the business? [37:18] Okay. Hearing none, I would enter turn a motion [37:20] to adjourn at seven 10. So moved. [37:25] Thank you Julie. Thanks everybody. Get home soon. [37:27] Goodnight. Thank you. Goodnight.