1 00:00:03,280 --> 00:00:07,620 And I'll ask Alderman Fargent to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance. 2 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:20,640 Alright, 3 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,040 first item is to adopt an agenda. 4 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,440 Are there any corrections or changes to the agenda? 5 00:00:30,020 --> 00:00:32,100 Seeing none, I'm going to take a motion to adopt. 6 00:00:32,900 --> 00:00:35,640 So we'll move by Alderman Ollers, is there a second? 7 00:00:37,420 --> 00:00:40,840 Second by Alderman Tufty, all in favor? 8 00:00:41,060 --> 00:00:42,060 Signified by saying aye. 9 00:00:42,380 --> 00:00:42,660 Aye. 10 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:43,760 Opposed? 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,480 Motion carried, just for those that are listening online 12 00:00:47,820 --> 00:00:50,680 and that are here, we have Alderman Tufty at home 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,080 and we have our city attorney is in Sioux Falls, 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,860 they are online here with us. 15 00:00:56,220 --> 00:00:58,120 So just for informational purposes. 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:06,400 Our consent item, approval of the minutes of our January 5th meeting, and approve of 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:13,940 Lindsay Heider, paramedic rate at $14 hourly and to approve all the bills. 18 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,680 Are there any questions and any of those items? 19 00:01:16,980 --> 00:01:19,820 Signen, I maintain a motion to approve the consent agenda. 20 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:20,720 So moved. 21 00:01:21,060 --> 00:01:24,080 Moved by Alderman Yakin, seconded by Alderman Birkey. 22 00:01:24,180 --> 00:01:24,840 Any further discussion? 23 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,480 Signen, all in favor of 65 by saying aye. 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,060 All right, any opposed? 25 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:30,980 Motion carried. 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,620 A public hearing, temporary alcoholic beverage license 27 00:01:35,620 --> 00:01:39,160 on sale liquor at the William Jankler Community Center 28 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:46,320 for the Flanders Baseball Association event for 221-26. 29 00:01:47,460 --> 00:01:47,960 Cole? 30 00:01:48,540 --> 00:01:52,600 Yeah, this is a permit that the council approves every year 31 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,380 for this specific event. 32 00:01:54,660 --> 00:01:56,880 It runs from 12 a.m. 33 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,440 We're told PM, sorry, on the 21st of February until 2 AM, 34 00:02:00,660 --> 00:02:01,740 on the 21st of February. 35 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,400 So allow them to sell our colleague 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,440 members at the event. 37 00:02:07,100 --> 00:02:11,760 I believe this is a, or who's doing PM? 38 00:02:11,900 --> 00:02:13,640 He's doing PMs, I think, is a. 39 00:02:13,640 --> 00:02:14,440 For the baseball association. 40 00:02:15,140 --> 00:02:17,120 Is it, they're the one bartending? 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:18,780 I think so. 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,160 OK, so that license allows them to sell alcohol. 43 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,900 All that in mind, pending any questions, 44 00:02:24,900 --> 00:02:28,780 on closing the public hearing, I'd recommend approval of that item. 45 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,220 Okay, are there any questions? 46 00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:39,880 Okay, I will close the public hearing and entertain a motion to approve. 47 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,100 So moved by Alderman Farge. 48 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:43,740 Is there a second? 49 00:02:44,500 --> 00:02:44,900 Oh, second. 50 00:02:45,100 --> 00:02:46,240 Second by Alderman Owlers. 51 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,060 Any further discussion? 52 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,140 Seeing none, all in favor of signify by saying aye. 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:50,640 Aye. 54 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:51,340 Any opposed? 55 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:51,820 Aye. 56 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:53,100 Motion carried. 57 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:54,480 Visitors be heard. 58 00:02:54,480 --> 00:03:00,720 I believe all the visitors here are for an agenda item unless you have something else that's not on the agenda 59 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:06,940 If you want to share that was discussed. Okay, then we're going to move forward to administrative reports 60 00:03:09,460 --> 00:03:13,620 It I was had an opportunity to go with Cole and look at 61 00:03:14,700 --> 00:03:15,920 remodeling at the 62 00:03:16,540 --> 00:03:21,000 Old fire station the new ambulance paid. It's coming together really really well 63 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:29,740 So I want to thank the crew for the work they're doing up there, getting that shaped up to accommodate staffing and stuff there. 64 00:03:29,900 --> 00:03:38,720 I think it's going to come together really, really nice and hopefully here in a month or so, we can as a council maybe start a meeting over there or something like that 65 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,460 or meet a little bit ahead of time, go over there and take a look at it and do a little tour of it. 66 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:50,320 And other than that, that is all I have at the moment. 67 00:03:50,540 --> 00:03:56,980 Other than the, I've been contacted by Representative Heinemann 68 00:03:56,980 --> 00:04:03,700 about hosting a cracker barrel I think February 7th. 69 00:04:05,780 --> 00:04:10,320 Just the city, I'm going to recommend that we agree to host it 70 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,940 and use this facility here to do it. 71 00:04:14,060 --> 00:04:19,220 I think it just works out good. It'll be at 9 o'clock in the morning, I believe, on February 7th. 72 00:04:19,340 --> 00:04:30,480 So if there's no objection from the council for us sponsoring that civic event, I'm going to go ahead and pursue that. 73 00:04:33,630 --> 00:04:34,250 All right, Birkey? 74 00:04:34,490 --> 00:04:37,210 I'm kind of on the fence, but donuts will help. 75 00:04:38,410 --> 00:04:39,570 Cookies are donuts, yes. 76 00:04:40,170 --> 00:04:43,890 If you come, I will definitely love cookies and donuts here, right? 77 00:04:45,850 --> 00:04:49,730 Okay, that's everything I have to go over to Cole. 78 00:04:50,510 --> 00:04:53,190 Thanks, Mary Dan. Just a few quick things for me. 79 00:04:54,530 --> 00:04:58,310 So staff identified an issue with our Code Red software. 80 00:04:58,590 --> 00:05:02,830 The link on our website hasn't been working, so if anybody in the public has tried to get on 81 00:05:02,830 --> 00:05:07,530 and click on it and not been able to register, we are aware that it's not working right now. 82 00:05:08,910 --> 00:05:12,990 Chief Sack and Ashley are working with Code Red support to regain access. 83 00:05:13,210 --> 00:05:15,090 I think they kind of revamped her. 84 00:05:15,510 --> 00:05:16,570 They went to a whole new platform. 85 00:05:16,850 --> 00:05:21,390 Yeah, so, with that new platform comes new capabilities and stuff. 86 00:05:21,650 --> 00:05:25,470 But so, Ashley, is that currently working on that to get it back up? 87 00:05:25,950 --> 00:05:30,590 One of the things we're gonna try to do when we get it back up is send out 88 00:05:30,590 --> 00:05:32,750 Code Red alerts in both English and Spanish. 89 00:05:33,130 --> 00:05:35,310 So everybody in our community is aware of what's going on. 90 00:05:35,310 --> 00:05:36,630 when we do send out a notice. 91 00:05:37,550 --> 00:05:39,750 As I always do, I would encourage anybody, 92 00:05:39,970 --> 00:05:41,930 as soon as we get that back up to enroll in it, 93 00:05:41,970 --> 00:05:44,210 it's a really good tool for our community 94 00:05:44,210 --> 00:05:46,990 to get out notices about water disruptions, 95 00:05:47,330 --> 00:05:50,270 snow events, really anything you can think of 96 00:05:50,270 --> 00:05:51,650 that we need to get pushed out quickly, 97 00:05:51,750 --> 00:05:52,790 it'll send it right to your phone, 98 00:05:53,150 --> 00:05:55,550 either you can, or you can select email, text, 99 00:05:55,730 --> 00:05:56,710 call, whatever you prefer. 100 00:05:57,470 --> 00:05:59,310 But we will, once we get it updated, 101 00:05:59,710 --> 00:06:02,330 or once we get it resolved and back up and active, 102 00:06:02,330 --> 00:06:07,850 We'll post on our Facebook and our website, letting folks know that it's back to normal. 103 00:06:08,270 --> 00:06:14,550 But that's the only, and, Zach, that's the only way you can, I can't just go and do it on my own. 104 00:06:14,630 --> 00:06:16,270 You have to go through the website to do it. 105 00:06:16,410 --> 00:06:19,310 If you get to the right link through Code Red, you probably could, 106 00:06:19,450 --> 00:06:23,510 but the easiest way is like on our homepage, it just says Code Red and you just click right on it 107 00:06:23,510 --> 00:06:24,890 and it'll take you right to the sign up page. 108 00:06:26,370 --> 00:06:31,650 There's a way that, because I added Ashley as an administrator, all I need is basically 109 00:06:31,650 --> 00:06:36,570 a name, a phone number, if you want it sent by text, an email, if you want it sent to 110 00:06:36,570 --> 00:06:38,590 your email, and then your current address. 111 00:06:40,430 --> 00:06:44,430 So maybe between Ashley and I, we can figure out just if somebody's coming into the city 112 00:06:44,430 --> 00:06:48,310 office, they can just fill it out, and then we can add them also. 113 00:06:48,590 --> 00:06:48,790 Okay. 114 00:06:49,530 --> 00:06:49,870 All right. 115 00:06:50,690 --> 00:06:51,290 Thank you. 116 00:06:53,090 --> 00:06:57,810 another quick thing city staff has been pretty carefully monitoring the water 117 00:06:57,810 --> 00:07:01,530 sewer project area over the last several weeks we had kind of a tough stretch 118 00:07:01,530 --> 00:07:05,030 there some free style where we're getting some roughs some ruts and some 119 00:07:05,030 --> 00:07:09,150 holes I know public work staff spent a better part of last week out there in 120 00:07:09,150 --> 00:07:13,110 the loader hauling and gravel smoothing it out the best we can we 121 00:07:13,110 --> 00:07:17,350 asked the folks to be patient with us on that but also additionally if you see 122 00:07:17,350 --> 00:07:22,370 an issue that needs some work or an area that needs a little extra attention just 123 00:07:22,370 --> 00:07:25,490 let us know these ways call the office and we'll get somebody out there to take 124 00:07:25,490 --> 00:07:30,250 a look at it and see what we can do. It's a little bit tough right now things are 125 00:07:30,250 --> 00:07:33,830 pretty hard and frozen so it's kind of hard to move that gravel around but we 126 00:07:33,830 --> 00:07:37,170 always take a look at it and see if there's anything we can do to make that 127 00:07:37,170 --> 00:07:39,950 area a little bit more accessible and easy to get around it. 128 00:07:42,270 --> 00:07:43,230 I had renovation 129 00:07:43,230 --> 00:07:45,030 The ambulance home there, Dan covered that. 130 00:07:46,330 --> 00:07:48,890 Last thing, and I kind of gave the council 131 00:07:48,890 --> 00:07:53,910 a little bit of a brief overview of my map here. 132 00:07:54,710 --> 00:07:59,810 City staff was made aware of some what you call deterioration 133 00:07:59,810 --> 00:08:04,430 within a manhole along Veterans Street 134 00:08:05,930 --> 00:08:08,890 on the west side of Veterans where 135 00:08:09,710 --> 00:08:12,030 you can see in the picture there the construction 136 00:08:12,030 --> 00:08:13,990 of the manholes somewhat compromised. 137 00:08:14,770 --> 00:08:17,590 That is a pretty important manhole, as I understand it, 138 00:08:17,730 --> 00:08:18,850 kind of putting it in 90 minutes' terms. 139 00:08:19,790 --> 00:08:22,190 As it is the beginning of the outfall line, 140 00:08:22,350 --> 00:08:26,310 meaning our lift station, which we call Aller's Lift Station, 141 00:08:27,690 --> 00:08:30,910 pumps the wastewater up the hill. 142 00:08:31,350 --> 00:08:33,390 It hits that manhole, which you have the picture of in front 143 00:08:33,390 --> 00:08:33,810 of you there. 144 00:08:34,090 --> 00:08:35,490 And it hits downhill in the lagoon. 145 00:08:35,710 --> 00:08:37,330 So we're keeping a pretty careful eye on that. 146 00:08:37,330 --> 00:08:44,030 We had a meeting with some folks from H&W and IMAG to look at that specific manhole, 147 00:08:44,170 --> 00:08:48,230 but really the whole stretch there, I believe there's six Tanner, five manholes along that stretch. 148 00:08:48,850 --> 00:08:50,770 Kind of paying careful attention to each one. 149 00:08:51,650 --> 00:08:57,390 As of right now, the one that really caught our eyes is that first manhole where the force main meets the outfall line. 150 00:08:59,510 --> 00:09:06,310 So what we're looking at doing there is likely next steps is looking at having IMAG come in, 151 00:09:06,310 --> 00:09:08,130 and get some specs of that manhole. 152 00:09:08,730 --> 00:09:11,770 Specifically so we can get the, what does Shane call it, 153 00:09:11,850 --> 00:09:14,590 the cone, the cone ordered and get that replaced. 154 00:09:15,230 --> 00:09:17,790 Other than that, the line going out to Lagoon 155 00:09:17,790 --> 00:09:19,450 appears to be 15 inch PVC. 156 00:09:20,470 --> 00:09:21,670 Pretty happy with the quality. 157 00:09:21,850 --> 00:09:24,150 We did go in there and camera it with our camera 158 00:09:24,150 --> 00:09:25,450 and everything looked to be good. 159 00:09:27,050 --> 00:09:29,810 But letting, I just wanted to make council aware of this 160 00:09:29,810 --> 00:09:31,850 because it could potentially turn into a bigger thing 161 00:09:31,850 --> 00:09:33,030 if we get some of these other manholes 162 00:09:33,030 --> 00:09:34,370 popped open and see some where issues 163 00:09:34,370 --> 00:09:36,390 because it could kind of snowball into a little bit 164 00:09:36,390 --> 00:09:38,450 bigger of a project, but we're pretty optimistic 165 00:09:38,450 --> 00:09:39,470 about what we found. 166 00:09:41,170 --> 00:09:43,230 It'll take a little bit of time to get, 167 00:09:43,330 --> 00:09:45,870 once we get it to spec out in order to get that man home. 168 00:09:46,250 --> 00:09:48,330 It sounds like they only make this custom 169 00:09:48,330 --> 00:09:49,950 and that they're only made when the weather is warm. 170 00:09:51,470 --> 00:09:54,530 So likely it would be sometime spring, 171 00:09:54,670 --> 00:09:56,710 unless we get some warm weather coming up, 172 00:09:56,850 --> 00:09:58,710 but that is something staff is monitoring. 173 00:09:59,470 --> 00:10:01,990 Shane put together a really helpful memo 174 00:10:01,990 --> 00:10:03,730 that kind of describes the whole scenario better 175 00:10:03,730 --> 00:10:07,590 than what I can, but I did want to make the Council of Public Aware that we are 176 00:10:08,010 --> 00:10:11,870 monitoring that manhole. We have some solutions that we're looking at and once 177 00:10:11,870 --> 00:10:17,050 we kind of get some pricing quotes, scope of work, I'll bring that to you folks 178 00:10:17,050 --> 00:10:21,210 for your blessing. But that's kind of how it stands right now. There is two 179 00:10:21,210 --> 00:10:24,710 pictures there if anybody didn't get a chance to look at it. That manhole is 180 00:10:24,710 --> 00:10:28,130 made out of some material that none of us have ever seen before. It's the 181 00:10:28,130 --> 00:10:31,390 wood and plaster. Typically that's concrete or some sort of fiberglass 182 00:10:31,390 --> 00:10:31,910 That's right, Andrew. 183 00:10:33,810 --> 00:10:35,030 None of us have ever seen that. 184 00:10:36,890 --> 00:10:39,130 So we have full faith that it's going to hold up 185 00:10:39,130 --> 00:10:40,670 until we get a replace, but it's not something 186 00:10:40,670 --> 00:10:41,650 we want to play around with. 187 00:10:42,230 --> 00:10:44,010 So if there are any questions on that, 188 00:10:44,770 --> 00:10:46,450 that's what I believe I have for my report. 189 00:10:47,390 --> 00:10:47,710 OK. 190 00:10:47,770 --> 00:10:49,970 Are there any questions for Cole or myself? 191 00:10:51,870 --> 00:10:52,990 Seeing none, energy and emotion 192 00:10:52,990 --> 00:10:54,430 to approve administrative reports. 193 00:10:55,690 --> 00:10:57,430 So when we move out on the beer keys, 194 00:10:57,570 --> 00:10:57,970 is there a second? 195 00:10:59,050 --> 00:10:59,410 Oh, so I pass. 196 00:10:59,410 --> 00:11:00,390 That's it. 197 00:11:00,650 --> 00:11:02,450 Second by Alderman Ollers. 198 00:11:02,590 --> 00:11:03,330 Any further discussion? 199 00:11:04,010 --> 00:11:05,630 Sidnan, all in favor, signify by saying aye. 200 00:11:05,870 --> 00:11:06,170 Aye. 201 00:11:06,590 --> 00:11:06,930 Opposed? 202 00:11:07,050 --> 00:11:07,270 Aye. 203 00:11:08,050 --> 00:11:09,210 Motion carried. 204 00:11:10,750 --> 00:11:14,330 Next item is old business second reading, ordinance 637, 205 00:11:14,590 --> 00:11:17,290 establishing schedule two, snow alerts. 206 00:11:18,150 --> 00:11:23,170 We had a pretty lengthy discussion on this last meeting. 207 00:11:24,070 --> 00:11:26,890 But I'll turn it over to Cole for any additional information 208 00:11:26,890 --> 00:11:29,250 that you'd like to share before any action is taken. 209 00:11:29,410 --> 00:11:29,850 Yeah. 210 00:11:30,110 --> 00:11:32,430 And I apologize for not being present for that discussion. 211 00:11:33,630 --> 00:11:35,970 From what I'm aware, there was some pretty good discussion 212 00:11:35,970 --> 00:11:37,010 on the intent. 213 00:11:37,330 --> 00:11:41,290 And then possibly the impact of that ordinance would have. 214 00:11:41,750 --> 00:11:45,570 But to put it simply, I'll lay out one more time just 215 00:11:45,570 --> 00:11:47,170 for the public and for refreshing the council 216 00:11:47,170 --> 00:11:48,230 what this ordinance does. 217 00:11:48,590 --> 00:11:51,130 This is a supplemental ordinance to our existing ordinance 218 00:11:51,130 --> 00:11:53,190 that we have in place, which is schedule 1, 219 00:11:53,190 --> 00:11:55,950 within chapter 76 of our code of ordinances. 220 00:11:57,470 --> 00:12:08,710 To be clear, I guess what Schedule 1 does is it creates an enforceable mechanism within 221 00:12:08,710 --> 00:12:13,770 the snow route when we receive over two inches of snow that requires vehicles to be moved 222 00:12:13,770 --> 00:12:18,350 within 24 hours of the snowpile passing, meaning our current ordinance, there's nothing 223 00:12:18,350 --> 00:12:24,270 there that requires vehicles to move prior to snow removal operations taking 224 00:12:24,270 --> 00:12:27,810 place. So what's happening is a lot of times we're having snow plows go around 225 00:12:27,810 --> 00:12:31,250 vehicles coming back a few days later or a day later to clean that up if the 226 00:12:31,250 --> 00:12:36,610 vehicle is moved. That vehicle had not been moved within 24 hours and the 227 00:12:36,610 --> 00:12:41,130 police department will come in potentially ticket them and once it's 228 00:12:41,130 --> 00:12:46,270 moved then the snow will be removed but there's really no there's no 229 00:12:46,270 --> 00:12:50,010 incentive to move your vehicle prior to snow removal just within that 24 230 00:12:50,490 --> 00:12:56,450 hour window after it's done. Additionally in our existing ordinance there's no 231 00:12:56,450 --> 00:13:01,030 notification of when snow removal is going to take place so typically the 232 00:13:01,030 --> 00:13:05,050 way I understand it and tenors in the room so you can correct me if I'm wrong 233 00:13:05,050 --> 00:13:07,910 but once the snow typically stops falling is when the clouds go out 234 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:12,170 depending on the time of day they probably won't go out at one in the 235 00:13:12,170 --> 00:13:16,070 morning I suppose they have before but usually when snow falls falling that's 236 00:13:16,070 --> 00:13:19,090 when they go out, but there's really no way to tell people when that's going to be. 237 00:13:19,910 --> 00:13:24,270 So what is the intent of this ordinance? Well, the number one intent of this ordinance is 238 00:13:24,270 --> 00:13:28,810 to get public notice out as soon as we can and give folks enough heads up to be able 239 00:13:28,810 --> 00:13:32,950 to get their vehicles off the street in a timely manner, which will then, in turn, 240 00:13:33,470 --> 00:13:37,010 to me, do two things. One, it's going to increase the efficiency and the effectiveness 241 00:13:37,010 --> 00:13:39,730 of our snow removal. We're going to be able to move curb to curb a little bit 242 00:13:39,730 --> 00:13:45,770 more effectively, quickly, get through it, and not require us to go back and do 243 00:13:45,770 --> 00:13:51,430 so much touch up work following the completion of snow. And to I think with 244 00:13:51,430 --> 00:13:54,890 this advanced notification we're likely going to decrease the amount of the 245 00:13:54,890 --> 00:13:58,730 amount of ticketing that happens when snowmobile occurs because folks will 246 00:13:58,730 --> 00:14:01,730 have a little better heads up of when it's happening you'll attract that 247 00:14:01,730 --> 00:14:04,350 timeline a little bit better get their vehicles off the street if they at all 248 00:14:04,350 --> 00:14:08,410 can and kind of relieve some of these frustrations that we've been 249 00:14:08,410 --> 00:14:12,330 having with folks coming in not understanding the ordinance and how 250 00:14:12,330 --> 00:14:18,390 works, not understanding when the 24 hour starts. This ordinance would require that staff give at 251 00:14:18,390 --> 00:14:26,650 least a four hour notice prior to moving snow, and then folks would know exactly when they need to 252 00:14:26,650 --> 00:14:31,730 have their vehicles off the street, no question that way. We'd have to advertise it through at 253 00:14:31,730 --> 00:14:37,750 least, I believe it's one form of mass media, but likely what we would do in practice is we 254 00:14:37,750 --> 00:14:40,250 you would get that on the KELOLAND close line, so it's on TV. 255 00:14:40,890 --> 00:14:43,690 Get it on our city website, put it on Facebook, 256 00:14:43,910 --> 00:14:46,050 and then likely also send out a Code Red alert. 257 00:14:47,470 --> 00:14:49,310 Chief Weber has the capability to do that, 258 00:14:49,350 --> 00:14:52,490 as well as I'm actually here in the office with Code Red. 259 00:14:53,710 --> 00:14:55,310 So that is the intent of this ordinance. 260 00:14:55,750 --> 00:14:59,150 It's not necessarily to pile on more regulations 261 00:14:59,150 --> 00:14:59,930 on top of what we. 262 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:11,020 Because what would happen is when a snow alert goes into effect, it would take supremacy over our existing chapter one, so that would no longer be in effect. 263 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:19,920 And it would, I think in my opinion, decrease the amount of tickets we're giving because folks will know exactly when they did the other vehicles off the street. 264 00:15:20,500 --> 00:15:28,500 And allow our crews to get out and do a little bit more efficient snow removal practices in turn, which would give us a better product then, 265 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:34,480 but also save the city significant dollars on wages that we're not spending additional 266 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:40,500 time going back and cleaning up as much after each normal gets over with. 267 00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:44,080 So with that in mind, I would take any questions, comments. 268 00:15:44,420 --> 00:15:47,540 I apologize if I went over something that you guys have already talked about. 269 00:15:47,660 --> 00:15:51,920 You folks have talked about it in detail already, but it's kind of my thoughts on 270 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:52,000 it. 271 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:57,240 I think it is a good option for us to look at that I think would create some efficiencies 272 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:02,000 but also hopefully get some more transparency down to the public cost savings as well. 273 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,740 Okay, are there any questions for Cole? 274 00:16:09,350 --> 00:16:11,770 Okay, any, yep, Alderman Parjan? 275 00:16:12,270 --> 00:16:14,950 Well, I'm going to be right up front. I don't like any of it. 276 00:16:15,370 --> 00:16:19,190 But if you are going to pass this, I don't know if we'll get past or not tonight, 277 00:16:19,190 --> 00:16:22,150 but I think you should have a mountain of snow, number one. 278 00:16:24,050 --> 00:16:26,090 Yeah, Alderman Olers and I talked about that earlier. 279 00:16:26,090 --> 00:16:28,830 he prints it out, I believe it's a dollar after he sent it. 280 00:16:29,530 --> 00:16:32,210 They have three inches, so what they do in Dells, 281 00:16:32,490 --> 00:16:34,470 it's automatic after three inches, 282 00:16:34,590 --> 00:16:35,850 which you still have to declare the time 283 00:16:35,850 --> 00:16:36,910 of what you're gonna do it. 284 00:16:37,650 --> 00:16:39,890 It's after three inches or as such times 285 00:16:39,890 --> 00:16:41,510 as the public works director in Dells 286 00:16:41,510 --> 00:16:43,310 or his or her doesn't need to clear, 287 00:16:43,490 --> 00:16:46,210 so you kind of do it in either scenario. 288 00:16:47,350 --> 00:16:48,710 I think you go to get, 289 00:16:49,750 --> 00:16:54,840 so if snow stops at nine o'clock in the morning, 290 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,720 Do you put out a snow alert? 291 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,980 Do you always sit around for four hours before they go or do you keep moving your snow? 292 00:17:05,830 --> 00:17:13,210 I guess if I, this would, so the schedule one would still apply until the snow alert is issued. 293 00:17:13,410 --> 00:17:17,790 So if Tanner and the crew want to go out and start without issuing the snow alert, 294 00:17:18,050 --> 00:17:20,750 then vehicles technically do not need to be off the road. 295 00:17:21,390 --> 00:17:21,830 Correct. 296 00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:23,330 So that's what I'm getting at. 297 00:17:23,330 --> 00:17:28,590 So they got a half a day going in there, you call a snow alert, how about those 298 00:17:28,590 --> 00:17:34,730 streets they just hit? Can I park there? It's already cleared. Not necessary, maybe 299 00:17:34,730 --> 00:17:42,310 have an inch or a left on the road. If you're gonna start with a snow prior to 300 00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:45,570 issuing a snow alert, you're probably not gonna issue the snow alert at all. That's 301 00:17:45,570 --> 00:17:50,810 what I was getting at. I asked the question last week, two weeks ago, if you 302 00:17:50,810 --> 00:17:54,450 would have had it called snow alerts this year yet, 303 00:17:54,630 --> 00:17:56,790 declaring possibly yes. 304 00:17:57,250 --> 00:17:59,050 I don't see no need for it, you know? 305 00:17:59,510 --> 00:18:00,910 Well, it's not, just to be clear, 306 00:18:00,950 --> 00:18:02,150 it's not an every time thing. 307 00:18:02,370 --> 00:18:04,610 If it's like we got right now, it's an inch or two, 308 00:18:05,210 --> 00:18:06,550 not so much of a big deal. 309 00:18:06,810 --> 00:18:09,270 Do you ever snow any a mouth? 310 00:18:09,670 --> 00:18:11,870 You always gotta go back, clean up after yourself, 311 00:18:12,030 --> 00:18:13,150 this and that, blowing snow. 312 00:18:13,490 --> 00:18:14,730 I don't see the deed for it, 313 00:18:14,730 --> 00:18:16,810 but that's just my opinion here. 314 00:18:17,150 --> 00:18:18,770 I'll be against it no matter what. 315 00:18:18,770 --> 00:18:22,250 I think if you are going to do it, I think it should have inches. 316 00:18:22,870 --> 00:18:25,390 I think it's a bad time of year to start it in the middle of the winter. 317 00:18:25,670 --> 00:18:31,490 If you are going to do it, I think pass it or whatever, give people a chance to have 318 00:18:31,490 --> 00:18:32,410 nowhere to go right now. 319 00:18:32,730 --> 00:18:38,450 They've got no plans, what I'm saying right now, but that's my opinion, okay? 320 00:18:40,050 --> 00:18:40,770 Other comments? 321 00:18:41,510 --> 00:18:41,790 Question? 322 00:18:42,090 --> 00:18:42,570 I'll move your key. 323 00:18:43,010 --> 00:18:44,390 I agree with you, Mike. 324 00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:51,790 And the only thing I would say is if we wanted to do something this winter, in the middle 325 00:18:51,790 --> 00:18:56,770 of the winter, start doing the co-grad or the alert or whatever and start breaking people 326 00:18:56,770 --> 00:18:57,570 into it. 327 00:18:57,990 --> 00:19:04,390 Because I know like just around my area, they don't have anywhere to go and to try 328 00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:08,110 to get that plan to go and now might be tough for them to do. 329 00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:15,510 And I don't know, I plowed snow for 40 years, you plowed snow for 40 years, you know that 330 00:19:15,510 --> 00:19:17,190 you always have to go back and clean up. 331 00:19:17,350 --> 00:19:20,070 There is no curb-to-curb done and go home. 332 00:19:20,750 --> 00:19:32,050 There's always some re-do stuff, so as this sits, I would say go for the code red, educate 333 00:19:32,050 --> 00:19:37,210 hit people now, and then look forward to a later date. 334 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:39,520 OK? 335 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,240 That's certainly something that, if you guys do want to pass this, 336 00:19:45,260 --> 00:19:48,680 we can go with warnings for the remainder of this year, 337 00:19:48,740 --> 00:19:50,780 since it is, I guess, kind of short notice. 338 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,720 I mean, we're in the middle of winter season. 339 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,280 Just so we can do the Code Red, and we 340 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,440 can do warnings for at least the first couple of times, 341 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,200 or we can do it the color you guys want it through the rest of the winter. 342 00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:10,830 Other question? Cole? 343 00:20:11,310 --> 00:20:16,170 Yeah, about how much time are you guys spending on an average side of snow? 344 00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:19,230 Use your imagination, I'll say six inches or something, five inches. 345 00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:22,570 How much time are you spending cleaning up around vehicles? 346 00:20:23,850 --> 00:20:25,950 Cleaning up or moving the tower, you're saying? 347 00:20:26,190 --> 00:20:27,730 Clean up? Clean up after you've gone through. 348 00:20:27,910 --> 00:20:32,690 Usually multiple days, because we're waiting for the same car to possibly move. 349 00:20:33,210 --> 00:20:40,470 So I don't know if we keep driving the same block, waiting for the vehicle to move, or we try to make a lap through town. 350 00:20:41,450 --> 00:20:44,470 And then once we get done, we've got to go to all Main Street off. 351 00:20:44,690 --> 00:20:47,190 We've got piles of snow around town to haul off as well. 352 00:20:47,630 --> 00:20:53,670 So then we kind of almost have to put that cleanup to the side to do something different. 353 00:20:54,670 --> 00:20:59,530 And then once we're done picking up, then we do go back to trying to clean up again. 354 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:19,840 First of all I agree with both Mike and I also am thinking about the amount of 355 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:28,540 snow we should have down in writing so that we know what there is to do also 356 00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:37,640 perhaps both Brad and Mike can give us an idea of what they did when they were 357 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:46,320 plowing snow and also that might help our people to kind of you know all of us 358 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:51,280 to kind of know what they went through and if there's a better way to do it. 359 00:21:51,460 --> 00:21:51,880 Any 360 00:22:03,050 --> 00:22:04,630 comment on that? 361 00:22:05,050 --> 00:22:06,450 That's a question for you too I think. 362 00:22:06,450 --> 00:22:09,350 I had a question for you prior to that. 363 00:22:09,450 --> 00:22:10,850 OK, auto and beer key? 364 00:22:11,530 --> 00:22:11,630 Yeah. 365 00:22:12,710 --> 00:22:15,530 Don't you have a, if I wasn't mentioned, 366 00:22:15,890 --> 00:22:19,270 that you plow around them, and they're still sitting there. 367 00:22:19,370 --> 00:22:21,570 You can take it home after a certain amount of time anyway. 368 00:22:21,770 --> 00:22:22,030 24 hours. 369 00:22:22,210 --> 00:22:22,770 24 hours. 370 00:22:23,110 --> 00:22:26,490 But then with that ticket becomes another 24-hour tow 371 00:22:26,490 --> 00:22:26,770 tag. 372 00:22:26,990 --> 00:22:28,590 So technically, that vehicle will not 373 00:22:28,590 --> 00:22:31,530 be moved by us for 48 hours after it's been towed. 374 00:22:31,650 --> 00:22:32,010 I see. 375 00:22:32,430 --> 00:22:33,070 That's all right. 376 00:22:34,930 --> 00:22:39,570 So, when you have neighbor one, let's say they both get a ticket, well he moves his, 377 00:22:40,450 --> 00:22:47,610 you know, right away, now it's 48 hours until this one leaves, I doubt Tanner's going to 378 00:22:47,610 --> 00:22:52,830 come and get this one, he's going to wait for this one to leave also, so now you're 379 00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:56,810 looking at, you know, day three to finally get that cleared up. 380 00:23:01,820 --> 00:23:07,520 You're correct. It's a pain in the butt. I realize that with that, but the same 381 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:07,820 token. 382 00:23:10,050 --> 00:23:13,470 You're not just driving around looking for cars. You're, you say you're 383 00:23:13,470 --> 00:23:17,170 moving out Main Street and stuff like that. That can take a day. A good 384 00:23:17,170 --> 00:23:20,330 snow that can take three days. You know what I'm saying? Then you clean up too. 385 00:23:20,770 --> 00:23:29,770 You know what I'm saying? If they don't get there, neighbors like walking 386 00:23:29,770 --> 00:23:33,230 through the snowpile the heck with it you know but I just that's 387 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:36,840 just my thought 388 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,860 there again so. Tanner? One other thing to add you know is you know when we do 389 00:23:41,860 --> 00:23:46,520 clean up you know our like I said last time we talked about it we grew up three 390 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:52,140 different times clean up well what we've tried in the past is to take the same 391 00:23:52,140 --> 00:23:57,740 car back and forth without trying to fill the driveway again with that car 392 00:23:57,740 --> 00:24:02,400 spot and that's one thing is okay now we're spending 10 minutes going back 393 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,860 and forth turning around in the road switching our plow to come back to try 394 00:24:06,860 --> 00:24:10,700 to feather that in so we're not filling in a driveway that's already been plowed 395 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:15,520 out or been cleared and that's the other reason is you know if we can we can go by 396 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,140 a driveway one time and not have to fill it in twice for someone to say 397 00:24:19,140 --> 00:24:24,140 pain for a snow removal and then we come back and fill that in again cleaning 398 00:24:24,140 --> 00:24:32,080 up a car spot and then we're supposed to pay for two cleanings or you know I 399 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:40,860 just trying to do the best the first time we can, in a way it's not such a pain. 400 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:48,040 Unfortunately, yes. I mean, it's just, I mean, I live, I mean, I can stand out there scoping 401 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,700 and you come right along the plow and they'll be right in, you know, and I mean, it is, 402 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,880 it is what it is. But I just don't want us to lose sight that I, I, I think Planney's 403 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,920 been very fortunate to have good snow removal in the past and the present. I think we 404 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:05,140 have crews that have been attentive and I think Flanders has a very efficient way of 405 00:25:05,140 --> 00:25:11,300 getting snow removed. Nothing is perfect. Driveways are going to get filled. This year 406 00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:15,900 has been a little bit of an exception, which has been good, but we don't know what February 407 00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:20,980 is going to bring. But I mean, when Mike's crew is out there and Tana, I mean, I think 408 00:25:20,980 --> 00:25:25,020 you guys have done a really good job of Randy and all of them in the past have 409 00:25:25,020 --> 00:25:28,160 done a really good job of snow removal. So we don't want to lose sight of that, 410 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:34,820 But that just kind of answer your question Karen. I don't know if there's a better way of necessarily doing it 411 00:25:34,820 --> 00:25:38,680 It's just how we what's what's the most efficient way of doing it? 412 00:25:38,860 --> 00:25:43,920 And maybe that is with an alert or maybe that's just continuing how we're doing it now 413 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,280 I don't know that's the question at hand 414 00:25:48,620 --> 00:25:51,980 Yes, yes, you may Karen. I 415 00:25:51,980 --> 00:25:53,480 I was wondering 416 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,220 I mean, is there a way, or maybe it's a move point, 417 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,580 but whether the cars can get flying to the city 418 00:26:04,180 --> 00:26:08,440 or in a little bit higher than the police department 419 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:14,840 and a ticket for being in the wrong place 420 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,260 for extra-monetized. 421 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,120 I 422 00:26:20,290 --> 00:26:20,590 don't know. 423 00:26:20,730 --> 00:26:24,190 What sense of the rate for your tickets you issue? 424 00:26:24,550 --> 00:26:25,550 Is that an RV schedule? 425 00:26:28,350 --> 00:26:31,830 So you wouldn't necessarily do an additional fee. 426 00:26:32,030 --> 00:26:35,070 What you could do is if you wanted to increase it, which I wouldn't recommend you do, 427 00:26:35,630 --> 00:26:39,190 but if you wanted to increase it, you would just have to adopt an ordinance 428 00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:42,370 amending the fee schedule to increase the fee for that specific violation. 429 00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:46,550 But I think that brings us back to, maybe that's a good segue, 430 00:26:46,730 --> 00:26:49,810 because I think that brings us back to the reason we're kind of having this conversation 431 00:26:49,810 --> 00:26:55,590 is because not only do our guys get frustrated with the amount of times they're going around vehicles, 432 00:26:55,590 --> 00:27:01,790 but additionally and maybe Lori can attest this but in the last month with 433 00:27:01,790 --> 00:27:04,970 these few snows we've had I think we've had the most amount of frustrated folks 434 00:27:04,970 --> 00:27:07,890 from the community coming in because they don't understand our existing 435 00:27:07,890 --> 00:27:11,630 ordinance and how it works just to be clear our existing ordinance says two 436 00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:15,550 inches of snow if you're on an emergency route and you don't your 437 00:27:15,550 --> 00:27:20,730 vehicle with 24 hours you're gonna get that ticket well folks I've heard I've 438 00:27:20,730 --> 00:27:23,530 heard the concern that we don't know what two inches of snow looks like 439 00:27:23,530 --> 00:27:28,490 which maybe is fair, because what Aldermiurky has in his yard and what I have in my yard 440 00:27:28,490 --> 00:27:34,870 might be two different inches of snow, which is kind of a critique I've heard on that, putting 441 00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:39,390 that exact inches in the ordinance. But then additionally, again, folks don't understand 442 00:27:39,390 --> 00:27:44,670 when that 24-hour starts, unless you're home watching the plow go by your house. That 443 00:27:44,670 --> 00:27:48,110 could be, if you were on vacation, it could have been an hour before you got home 444 00:27:48,110 --> 00:27:51,350 or it could have been two days ago for all you know when they moved snow. So that's 445 00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:53,070 kind of the frustration with our existing ordinance. 446 00:27:54,130 --> 00:27:58,370 To be clear, I'm not saying that our imposed ordinance 447 00:27:58,370 --> 00:28:00,290 is the end all be all either. 448 00:28:00,510 --> 00:28:02,750 Maybe it's not, maybe it's not a perfect fit 449 00:28:02,750 --> 00:28:04,930 for our community, but it is something different, 450 00:28:05,030 --> 00:28:07,150 I think, that gives both staff the opportunity 451 00:28:07,150 --> 00:28:08,970 to increase their effectiveness 452 00:28:08,970 --> 00:28:11,810 or in the speed at which they're reading this done. 453 00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:14,110 Even if there is still some vehicles on the street, 454 00:28:14,170 --> 00:28:16,070 I think it's hard to argue that there wouldn't be 455 00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:17,850 a decrease in the amount of people who get out the street 456 00:28:17,850 --> 00:28:18,810 if they're able. 457 00:28:20,110 --> 00:28:24,190 But additionally, I think it's going to give some more clarity, transparency to the folks 458 00:28:24,190 --> 00:28:28,830 who have been frustrated these last month on when they receive it to get why they're 459 00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:29,250 getting one. 460 00:28:29,350 --> 00:28:32,810 When it's clearly posted the time of the day, when we're starting, that's when you need 461 00:28:32,810 --> 00:28:33,710 to have your vehicle moved. 462 00:28:34,150 --> 00:28:38,250 And if you don't have a spot to park, if you see that snow alert posted for, we'll 463 00:28:38,250 --> 00:28:43,390 say four o'clock, and we can place guidance on kind of how we start so folks will 464 00:28:43,390 --> 00:28:45,870 know this, but maybe you don't have a place to park. 465 00:28:45,870 --> 00:28:48,570 Well, if you're at home, you can kind of be looking out your window. 466 00:28:49,270 --> 00:28:50,030 But they're going to start at four. 467 00:28:50,130 --> 00:28:51,010 I'll pay attention around four. 468 00:28:51,130 --> 00:28:51,830 They're going to go by my house. 469 00:28:51,950 --> 00:28:53,150 OK, they're on the north side of the road. 470 00:28:53,170 --> 00:28:55,910 I'm going to move my vehicle from the north side of the south side, 471 00:28:56,610 --> 00:28:59,130 see them go by again, flip back to the other side. 472 00:28:59,330 --> 00:29:03,250 I mean, I think this at least offers an opportunity 473 00:29:03,250 --> 00:29:05,930 to both address some of those concerns that we've 474 00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:09,310 been hearing in the public, but additionally give staff 475 00:29:09,310 --> 00:29:12,970 some ability to get the job done on maybe just a little bit 476 00:29:12,970 --> 00:29:13,930 better and a little bit quicker. 477 00:29:14,590 --> 00:29:18,310 And just to echo what Mayor Danna says, I think these folks do an excellent job of moving. 478 00:29:19,910 --> 00:29:24,010 Yes, sometimes it takes three days to get things cleaned up, but once they have a chance to get those vehicles moved, 479 00:29:24,190 --> 00:29:29,230 I think they do a really good job of keeping the streets clear and safe and hauled off when possible. 480 00:29:29,530 --> 00:29:34,870 So that's kind of my true sense on this, and that's something I think the council could benefit from thinking about is 481 00:29:35,530 --> 00:29:43,290 maybe this ordinance isn't the exact solution, but I can pretty strongly say that I don't think our existing ordinance is perfect either. 482 00:29:43,290 --> 00:29:47,510 maybe there's some different ways that we can look at tweaking that and maybe 483 00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:50,950 that's throwing this ordinance out and restarting maybe it's trying to see what 484 00:29:50,950 --> 00:29:54,910 happens and then looking at it at the end of the winter. Obviously that's up for 485 00:29:54,910 --> 00:29:58,830 you folks to decide but just kind of my two cents on why we're looking at this 486 00:29:58,830 --> 00:29:59,950 is kind of what's... 487 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,220 Any other comments, questions? 488 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:06,240 Erin? 489 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:06,780 Yeah. 490 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,340 Me again. 491 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:17,480 Now, I'm just throwing this out, but since we're in the middle of winter and we don't know what's to come, 492 00:30:18,660 --> 00:30:28,240 do you think it would be possible, and I'm, like I say, I'm just throwing this out to have warning tickets instead of actual tickets 493 00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:34,300 until people understand what we're doing and give our community a little bit of 494 00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:37,020 a break since we're starting this in the middle of winter. 495 00:30:40,850 --> 00:30:42,130 Yeah, uh, Cole. 496 00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:45,450 Yeah, I'll even talk to you, that's something that Chief Zach said, I think, 497 00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:50,930 that he said is a good idea for us to look at doing, especially if we roll with this sooner rather than later, 498 00:30:51,230 --> 00:30:55,030 is to give a little bit of a grace period likely to the end of this winter until it, 499 00:30:55,570 --> 00:30:58,390 until folks fully get used to kind of how this would work. 500 00:31:04,790 --> 00:31:06,770 Okay, any other questions or comments? 501 00:31:10,980 --> 00:31:17,180 Seeing none, I would entertain a motion on the ordinance. 502 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:17,960 Is 503 00:31:21,570 --> 00:31:24,110 there a motion to approve the ordinance? 504 00:31:25,510 --> 00:31:25,970 Cole? 505 00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:28,770 Additionally, if we would like to add in the language 506 00:31:28,770 --> 00:31:31,370 about the three inches or to whatever the amount is, 507 00:31:31,530 --> 00:31:33,210 this would be your chance to amend this ordinance 508 00:31:33,210 --> 00:31:34,190 and do that as well. 509 00:31:34,510 --> 00:31:35,530 As somebody would like to see that, 510 00:31:35,810 --> 00:31:37,830 just so everybody's clear what your options are here. 511 00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:43,600 Okay, any action? 512 00:31:46,690 --> 00:31:50,890 there's no motion that's made it'll die for lack of a motion twice 513 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:58,920 I'll 514 00:32:02,030 --> 00:32:02,710 say the 515 00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:08,330 it will die for lack of a motion at this time and we'll see where it goes 516 00:32:08,330 --> 00:32:14,530 looking forward call so just so I'm on the same page as all three folks clearly 517 00:32:14,530 --> 00:32:18,550 this is not the solution in your minds would you like to see us research 518 00:32:18,550 --> 00:32:23,150 some other ways to look at this is it amending our existing ordinances that 519 00:32:23,150 --> 00:32:28,330 I can tell you that probably 80% to 90% of South Dakota 520 00:32:28,330 --> 00:32:29,750 cities have something similar to this. 521 00:32:29,890 --> 00:32:32,210 So I don't know how crazy we can get beyond this. 522 00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:35,810 But are you folks in the state of mind 523 00:32:35,810 --> 00:32:37,590 that you'd like to see us tweak our existing one? 524 00:32:38,790 --> 00:32:41,010 Or just keep rolling with it as it is 525 00:32:41,010 --> 00:32:43,150 and hope that things settle down? 526 00:32:43,330 --> 00:32:44,730 Is that what we need? 527 00:32:45,290 --> 00:32:46,670 I guess my thought would just be, 528 00:32:46,750 --> 00:32:48,510 I think it's something we should address 529 00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:50,610 after winter is over in the summer 530 00:32:50,610 --> 00:32:55,650 so we can come up maybe with a better plan to roll it out, to communicate whatever we 531 00:32:55,650 --> 00:33:02,510 decide to the community. So when it gets to the winter, it's in effect and people are aware. 532 00:33:07,010 --> 00:33:07,590 I 533 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:22,540 don't think you have to have council approval or motion to send out an informational code 534 00:33:22,540 --> 00:33:29,640 red that says, hey, we're plowing. In that, you could say, move, you know, move them 535 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,040 whatever without having to go to the ticket to get started. 536 00:33:36,220 --> 00:33:36,940 Middle of the 537 00:33:36,940 --> 00:33:42,040 winter, if you already had, we haven't had squat for snow, we've got a lot of field 538 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:48,440 people right now. It could be pretty tough spring, you know, till spring. If we 539 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:54,040 don't educate a little bit. I think you can do that with the code red. But that 540 00:33:54,040 --> 00:34:00,000 doesn't mean you can't come up with a rewrite of what we've got. Okay. Alright. 541 00:34:00,340 --> 00:34:06,120 Any other comments? Seeing none, we will then move forward to our next agenda item 542 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:15,140 which is SRF, my pay requests, pursuer number 10, 7,760, water number 23, 7,860. 543 00:34:15,140 --> 00:34:21,100 Thank you Mr. Mayor. These are for engineering costs for IMeg. This is for 544 00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:26,840 construction management of the project and it's the 10th request for sewer and 545 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:32,060 the 23rd request for water. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer 546 00:34:32,060 --> 00:34:36,580 them. Otherwise I would recommend approval of this item. Okay any 547 00:34:36,580 --> 00:34:36,900 Any questions? 548 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,220 Seeing none, I'll entertain a motion to approve. 549 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,360 Pay request number 10 and number 23. 550 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,560 So moved. 551 00:34:45,660 --> 00:34:46,560 Moved by Alderman Yatn. 552 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,160 Is there a second? 553 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,240 Second. 554 00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:49,580 Second by Alderman Farge. 555 00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:50,380 Any further discussion? 556 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,280 Seeing none, all in favor signify by saying aye. 557 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:53,780 Aye. 558 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:54,560 Opposed? 559 00:34:54,940 --> 00:34:55,120 Aye. 560 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,140 Motion carried. 561 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,920 Next item is resolution 202602, 562 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,080 adopting a Moody County pre-disaster medication plan 563 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:13,200 for 2026 through 2031 this is nothing new per se it is something that we have had 564 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,260 an opportunities accounts look at before I don't know if it got longer or not but 565 00:35:17,260 --> 00:35:24,720 we got it seems to be a lot how much 275 pages of good information how to deal 566 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:33,820 with the community disaster so so I mean I I don't know that and I did 567 00:35:33,820 --> 00:35:37,860 read through it, and I don't know that there was anything in there that is much 568 00:35:37,860 --> 00:35:42,660 different from other things that we've looked at in the past and approved, but I 569 00:35:43,340 --> 00:35:48,980 guess this is our chance for questions, or if you think it's okay, we will just 570 00:35:49,820 --> 00:35:50,400 approve it. 571 00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:58,530 Any questions, comments? And it has to do, we have to do it. We have 572 00:35:58,530 --> 00:36:03,710 to have it to get better months. So it is, so you're kind of like 573 00:36:03,710 --> 00:36:08,790 it's you know so automatic beer key basically it's just for everybody it's 574 00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:14,790 just identifying the critical infrastructure and sensitive things that 575 00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:21,750 could happen in any kind of a disaster that's 275 pages long and then you can 576 00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:25,810 get because you've I you've approved it then you have the ability to get 577 00:36:25,810 --> 00:36:30,050 federal disaster relief and it doesn't have some good information it does 578 00:36:30,050 --> 00:36:33,910 the populations of counties, cities, those types of things. 579 00:36:34,210 --> 00:36:35,310 So if there's anybody in the public 580 00:36:35,930 --> 00:36:38,110 that is interested in looking at the mitigation plan, 581 00:36:38,290 --> 00:36:40,750 it is available, I think, when we post it online. 582 00:36:41,090 --> 00:36:42,030 We'll post it on our website. 583 00:36:42,110 --> 00:36:42,630 On our website? 584 00:36:42,850 --> 00:36:43,410 It's posted. 585 00:36:43,530 --> 00:36:46,170 It's posted on the website, so if you're interested 586 00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:48,530 in watching good reading material, 587 00:36:49,230 --> 00:36:51,910 go ahead and take a look at that. 588 00:36:52,650 --> 00:36:54,450 All right, if there's no further discussion, 589 00:36:54,690 --> 00:36:56,390 I would entertain a motion to approve 590 00:36:56,930 --> 00:37:01,070 move the pre-disaster mitigation plan 2026-2031. 591 00:37:01,690 --> 00:37:02,370 So move. 592 00:37:02,490 --> 00:37:03,550 Move by Alderman Farge. 593 00:37:03,630 --> 00:37:04,210 Is there a second? 594 00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:05,890 Oh, so. 595 00:37:06,030 --> 00:37:07,230 Second by Alderman Ollers. 596 00:37:07,310 --> 00:37:07,890 Any further discussion? 597 00:37:08,730 --> 00:37:10,710 Seeing none, I'll clarify by saying aye. 598 00:37:10,850 --> 00:37:11,070 Aye. 599 00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:11,830 Opposed? 600 00:37:12,110 --> 00:37:13,070 Motion carried. 601 00:37:14,190 --> 00:37:16,150 2026 agreement with code enforcement. 602 00:37:17,550 --> 00:37:19,310 Cole, I don't know if it did look 603 00:37:19,310 --> 00:37:20,770 like there was much change in there. 604 00:37:21,050 --> 00:37:23,830 No, the main thing changed there 605 00:37:23,830 --> 00:37:28,490 Yeah, they increased their hourly rate, I believe, from 75 to 85. 606 00:37:29,250 --> 00:37:32,030 I know we've only gone with them for four or five years now, 607 00:37:32,130 --> 00:37:34,550 but I think it's their first rate change in over 10 years, 608 00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:37,230 so I wouldn't anticipate another large rate change coming. 609 00:37:37,870 --> 00:37:40,630 Just some quick stats while I guess looking at us, 610 00:37:41,170 --> 00:37:43,190 or looking at the rate, just finish that up, button that up. 611 00:37:43,830 --> 00:37:45,890 They charge us $85 per hour for all the hours 612 00:37:45,890 --> 00:37:49,510 they're out either reviewing the community, 613 00:37:49,850 --> 00:37:52,850 inspecting the community, plus $0.67 per mile, which 614 00:37:52,850 --> 00:37:54,670 are code enforcers coming from Brookings, 615 00:37:54,730 --> 00:37:56,070 so it's not very substantial there. 616 00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:59,470 This does include a $1,500 retainer. 617 00:38:00,150 --> 00:38:03,130 If we don't use all of that, they 618 00:38:03,130 --> 00:38:06,510 will move all of that over to next year, what we paid for, 619 00:38:06,930 --> 00:38:09,030 or we can have requests to refund from them. 620 00:38:12,570 --> 00:38:13,150 What else? 621 00:38:13,850 --> 00:38:16,490 Just looking at some stats on code enforcement for last year. 622 00:38:16,810 --> 00:38:17,830 I had some questions on that. 623 00:38:18,210 --> 00:38:20,790 Last year, we had 15 properties coming to compliance. 624 00:38:21,310 --> 00:38:26,290 Tim was just here last week to do a kind of preliminary inspection getting ready 625 00:38:26,290 --> 00:38:30,050 for the year to see what things have popped up over the winter. I believe we 626 00:38:30,050 --> 00:38:34,390 have about 20 on our current list that have been cited. Several of those are 627 00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:39,190 carryover some previous years but they'll likely be a few new ones that 628 00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:43,830 pop on as Tim kind of starts this spring. But with all that in mind I think Tim 629 00:38:43,830 --> 00:38:47,490 does a really nice job and I would recommend approval of that item. 630 00:38:47,490 --> 00:38:55,580 Any questions on it Ricky? This is basically just complaint driven. It 631 00:38:55,580 --> 00:39:00,740 isn't like on a regular schedule basis. His is more than complaint driven. He 632 00:39:00,740 --> 00:39:04,580 does it kind of depends on the frequency of what you're seeing violations but 633 00:39:04,580 --> 00:39:11,900 and he typically does inspections from March until August. Not on a regular 634 00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:16,560 basis but yeah I would say once a month or once every three weeks he gets 635 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,320 through and he only tries to do it in the month where people can actually make 636 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,040 improvements on their structures. He's not going to be out there in December 637 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,480 saying fix it up when it's below zero. Well then he'll come and let's go up when you 638 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,840 least expect. But additionally yes he will also assist on a complaint basis so 639 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,100 if somebody calls in and says this is an issue of this property I'll then 640 00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:38,160 board that information at the end just to keep our entire process uniform 641 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,780 because when I first started it kind of was happening where I someone would 642 00:39:42,780 --> 00:39:45,540 make a complaint it was a valid complaint I kind of stuck paperwork on 643 00:39:45,540 --> 00:39:47,840 mind, not turn it over to him, then we're 644 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,120 kind of working the same thing, or he 645 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,600 doesn't know all the conversations I've had. 646 00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:52,080 So I've learned that it's easiest 647 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,580 to turn that flip out over to him, let him do his process. 648 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,260 Once in a while, he'll pull me in and say, 649 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,000 what do you think about this, the interpretation of this? 650 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,680 But other than that, they do a really nice job 651 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,680 of comprehensively reviewing the community 652 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,820 and then working with folks in a way that 653 00:40:04,820 --> 00:40:07,500 allows them to kind of get things back into their minds. 654 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:08,560 Thank you. 655 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,260 OK, any questions? 656 00:40:16,180 --> 00:40:19,920 So after a while, when do you take charge of it? 657 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:28,120 I mean, when things die out, I see some things are at 21, the year 21, I see, what does the 658 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,120 bait property mean? 659 00:40:29,580 --> 00:40:30,780 It means you go in and clean it up. 660 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:31,340 What? 661 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:32,940 It means you go in and clean it up. 662 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,700 So if it's a house, that bait means you tear it down and haul it off, if it's junk, 663 00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:38,620 you mean you throw it in the back of a trailer and get rid of it. 664 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:46,280 So those are heavily dependent, and this is maybe more of a legal question that Matt can get to because it's based off liability, right? 665 00:40:46,740 --> 00:40:50,300 We followed our process. A certain structure is in violation of our ordinances. 666 00:40:50,420 --> 00:40:57,500 It's reached the point where they have gone through the process, due process has been passed, the appeal process has passed. 667 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,700 The city then has the option to go in and bait that. 668 00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:07,380 Whether there's liability associated with that, meaning we tear down a perfectly good something, someone thinks they were wronged. 669 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,500 Sometimes you have to have a little nuance in when you abate those things, 670 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,120 it's just to make sure that you're compliant with existing state law, 671 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,500 but also your process entirely. 672 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,420 How quickly things get debated is dependent, simply put, 673 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:24,420 how quickly things get debated is dependent on the complexity of the violation. 674 00:41:25,260 --> 00:41:27,320 With an entire structure, it takes a little bit more time. 675 00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:30,980 If it's, coal has a dilapidated lawnmower in the middle of its yard, 676 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,060 the city crew can go up and hook up and haul out in 15 minutes. 677 00:41:34,060 --> 00:41:36,560 That gets done a little bit quicker because that more can get put back. 678 00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:41,940 So symbols that are on there for longer are likely a little bit more of a complex issue. 679 00:41:42,380 --> 00:41:48,220 Or adversely, symbols that are on there for longer, these folks have made incremental improvements. 680 00:41:48,820 --> 00:41:52,720 So say that my house got cited for shingles, windows, and siting. 681 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,500 Maybe they've replaced the shingles but not the sitings. 682 00:41:55,620 --> 00:41:59,000 You're not technically off the list yet, but Tim will typically give you more time 683 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,940 to complete those improvements just to make sure that's fair to the person who's 684 00:42:02,940 --> 00:42:08,160 making a good-faith effort to correct that violation does that answer the 685 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:22,960 question okay any other comments all right entertain a motion to move by 686 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,840 Alderman Birkey is there a second second 687 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,180 by all the dollars any further 688 00:42:31,180 --> 00:42:38,280 the discussion. Sing an all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. 689 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:45,600 Entertain a motion to go into executive session for legal. Move by Alderman 690 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:53,220 Yeaton seconded by second by Alderman Eckern to go to executive session at 691 00:42:53,220 --> 00:43:00,420 at 7.14. All in favor, 5 by 7. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carried.