1 00:00:00,012 --> 00:00:04,049 It is Thursday, October 8th. It's 9 o'clock. Please rise and join me in the pledge. 2 00:00:07,087 --> 00:00:13,065 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic 3 00:00:13,065 --> 00:00:20,001 for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for 4 00:00:20,001 --> 00:00:20,034 all. 5 00:00:23,016 --> 00:00:28,091 I guess I forgot to say it, but call this meeting to order. Um, but I do. Uh. Our 6 00:00:28,091 --> 00:00:33,066 first item, for the record, there was no public comment this morning. And our first 7 00:00:33,066 --> 00:00:35,025 item up is 8 00:00:37,056 --> 00:00:42,087 Are we doing the canvas? OK. It's a document for signature for appointment of supplemental 9 00:00:42,087 --> 00:00:48,007 election judges. Good morning, Commissioners. Paula Buff, Flathead County Election 10 00:00:48,007 --> 00:00:55,037 Administrator. The document for signature before you, um, is a list of election judges 11 00:00:55,039 --> 00:01:02,034 that we trained on a supplemental basis on the 15th and 22nd of September. These 12 00:01:02,036 --> 00:01:07,075 judges have completed this training and meet the required election judge qualifications 13 00:01:07,075 --> 00:01:13,091 pursuant to MCA 134107 and have completed the required training per 14 00:01:13,091 --> 00:01:21,046 134203. Their assignments are listed below. It is hereby requested that the Flathead 15 00:01:21,046 --> 00:01:25,066 County Board of Commissioners appoint the supplemental election judges listed below 16 00:01:25,066 --> 00:01:30,022 to work the November 3rd general election and all further elections held prior to 17 00:01:30,022 --> 00:01:37,017 the 2028 primary election. Judges may be added or removed as necessary. Mr. Chair, 18 00:01:37,022 --> 00:01:41,073 I move signature to the appointment of supplemental election judges. I have a motion 19 00:01:41,073 --> 00:01:46,081 to second. Is there further discussion. I just want to thank the judges that do this. 20 00:01:46,009 --> 00:01:53,013 They commit a tremendous amount of energy and a day out of their lives, and it is 21 00:01:53,013 --> 00:01:58,034 very valuable for Flathead County. Agreed. Thank you. Is there further discussion? 22 00:01:59,005 --> 00:02:05,013 Hearing none. All those in favor? Aye oppose. Same sign. Motion carries. Thank you, 23 00:02:05,022 --> 00:02:11,006 Paul. Thank you. I gave you guys the original that I had signed. Oh, OK. 24 00:02:14,008 --> 00:02:20,024 Our next item up is a document for signature. SFY 25 00:02:21,055 --> 00:02:29,015 DP 27 DPHHS contract amendment. Good morning, Commissioners. Mandy Fleming with the 26 00:02:29,015 --> 00:02:34,003 Health Department. This contract supports the implementation of the Personal Responsibility 27 00:02:34,003 --> 00:02:38,059 Education Program, as well as the sexual risk avoidance education program. They've 28 00:02:38,059 --> 00:02:42,087 been, um, these are evidence-based prevention education programs that we provide 29 00:02:42,087 --> 00:02:47,039 in the Flathead Valley. The curriculums focus on healthy relationships, communication, 30 00:02:47,064 --> 00:02:52,083 decision-making, resisting peer pressure, and avoiding risky behavior. Data from 31 00:02:52,083 --> 00:02:57,079 both programs shows positive outcomes. SRA data shows that 83% of youth were more 32 00:02:57,079 --> 00:03:02,029 likely to better understand what makes a relationship healthy. 72% were more likely 33 00:03:02,029 --> 00:03:07,001 to care about doing well in school and 69% were more likely to resist or say no to 34 00:03:07,001 --> 00:03:13,062 peer pressure. PrEP data showed that, sorry, 72% of them were more likely to plan 35 00:03:13,082 --> 00:03:18,098 and reach their goals, 73% were more likely to be respectful to others, and 5. 3% 36 00:03:18,098 --> 00:03:23,028 of participants reported being more likely to talk with a parent or guardian about 37 00:03:23,028 --> 00:03:28,032 sensitive topics. We've been implementing this program for over 15 years. Um, last 38 00:03:28,032 --> 00:03:33,004 year alone, our health educator provided education at 7 locations across multiple 39 00:03:33,004 --> 00:03:39,047 grade levels and reached more than 400 students. Mr. Chair, I move the document for 40 00:03:39,047 --> 00:03:47,003 signature SFY 27 DPHHS contract amendment. Second, I have a motion to second 41 00:03:47,003 --> 00:03:52,098 the discussion. I do have just a comment. Mandy, thank you for the statistics on 42 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:58,051 the success of this. So often we, we, we see these things and we don't necessarily 43 00:03:58,051 --> 00:04:04,001 hear the results. The results are very important for me as a commissioner and for 44 00:04:04,001 --> 00:04:05,091 our taxpayers. Thank you. You're welcome. 45 00:04:07,093 --> 00:04:13,053 Is there further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor. Aye, same sign. motion 46 00:04:13,053 --> 00:04:14,066 carries. Thank you. 47 00:04:16,075 --> 00:04:23,007 Our next item up is. A document for signature task order amendment 3, personal 48 00:04:23,007 --> 00:04:30,054 responsibility education program, prep and sexual risk avoidance education, S R A 49 00:04:30,054 --> 00:04:38,007 E. Is that just what we did? OK. OK, we already did that. Then we are in recess until 50 00:04:38,007 --> 00:04:38,094 9:15. 51 00:04:42,009 --> 00:04:47,073 It is 9:15. I call our meeting back to order. Our first item up is our bi-monthly 52 00:04:47,073 --> 00:04:50,013 meeting with Terry Dugan from the library. Good morning, Terry. 53 00:04:54,007 --> 00:04:58,048 Hello, Terry Dugan from the library. Happy to be here this morning to give you our 54 00:04:58,005 --> 00:05:03,046 monthly update of stuff going on at the library. I'm happy to report that it's kind 55 00:05:03,046 --> 00:05:08,054 of business as usual. We're over our summer, um, super busy time, and we're just 56 00:05:08,054 --> 00:05:13,037 kind of settling into the fall. School starts, our programming kind of settles down, 57 00:05:13,063 --> 00:05:16,094 and we're just doing, um, day to day business, which is great because we love to 58 00:05:16,094 --> 00:05:22,009 do that. Um, I wanna give you an update on the letter of intent that we have with 59 00:05:22,009 --> 00:05:28,074 shop development regarding the Kalispell future possible library. That letter is 60 00:05:28,074 --> 00:05:34,003 still in their hands. The library board had asked for a response or at least um an 61 00:05:34,003 --> 00:05:39,043 acknowledgement of that at the end of, by the end of September. We have not received 62 00:05:39,043 --> 00:05:44,078 anything and so, um, we are actively looking at other opportunities and see what, 63 00:05:44,091 --> 00:05:49,042 um, keeping our options open for what that could look like. So we're not quite sure 64 00:05:49,084 --> 00:05:55,024 what that means, but, um, we're, we're ready to look at other things as well. Terry, 65 00:05:55,033 --> 00:06:00,055 could you go a little deeper into that? That's the parcel by the um by the wall. 66 00:06:00,098 --> 00:06:06,009 Red, Reddy, can you. In the microphone, sorry, that's parcel by the mall. Yes, that's 67 00:06:06,009 --> 00:06:11,018 that two acre piece that we had requested by the mall kind of at the west end, um, 68 00:06:11,058 --> 00:06:17,049 and we had kind of indicated our interest to them quite a while ago, but they've 69 00:06:17,049 --> 00:06:22,003 kind of pulled back from any commitment on that. They've said that they would, um, 70 00:06:22,007 --> 00:06:29,007 sign the letter and kind of given us verbal, um. Communication, but we have not seen 71 00:06:29,009 --> 00:06:33,012 that in the form of an official signature. OK, great. Thank you. 72 00:06:35,016 --> 00:06:40,019 Um, our feasibility study continues anyway, which is something we need to do. Our, 73 00:06:40,028 --> 00:06:46,026 um, Our brand raise consultants are doing a great job interviewing lots of people, 74 00:06:46,037 --> 00:06:50,075 having focus groups. We have that survey out there, it ends tomorrow. It's the last 75 00:06:50,075 --> 00:06:58,002 day of that. We have 225 responses, which is great. We'd love to get more, but um 76 00:06:58,018 --> 00:07:02,067 not everybody likes to take the time to do those surveys. It is, you can answer it 77 00:07:02,067 --> 00:07:08,041 anonymously. I think the only required Um, category is your zip code. So that's, 78 00:07:08,059 --> 00:07:16,002 that's fine for folks that want to just answer that way. Um, our Columbia Falls Library, 79 00:07:16,026 --> 00:07:21,089 we are looking to the future for that location. The city of Columbia Falls has approached 80 00:07:21,089 --> 00:07:27,021 us, which we really appreciate, just saying, hey, in the future, we really need this 81 00:07:27,021 --> 00:07:34,017 space. We've been in there since the 1960s and they've grown since then. Their administration 82 00:07:34,017 --> 00:07:39,065 needs that, that space within City Hall, and so they're actively helping us look 83 00:07:39,065 --> 00:07:44,052 for possible other locations and we've had some really nice um Possible leads of 84 00:07:44,052 --> 00:07:48,032 what that could look like. I know we're a few years out, maybe 2 or 3 years out, 85 00:07:48,045 --> 00:07:53,099 but Um, that's a promising, promising partnership with the city there as well. 86 00:07:57,001 --> 00:08:02,032 Um, just as a side note, the Columbia Falls Library sees about 60,000 people a year. 87 00:08:02,045 --> 00:08:08,003 So it's a super busy library, especially with businesses and, uh, business printing. 88 00:08:08,029 --> 00:08:14,024 They actually print more copies than Kalispell does. They're just a, a business hub 89 00:08:14,024 --> 00:08:20,022 for that area. Terry, that's, that's visitors. Um, but it might be the same visitor 90 00:08:20,022 --> 00:08:24,066 more than once would be counted in that, or is those individuals that's actually 91 00:08:24,066 --> 00:08:28,044 just door counts, yeah, so it could be a person coming once a month or whatever, 92 00:08:28,055 --> 00:08:35,074 yeah, yeah. Um, our Evergreen, um, smart locker which we ordered is, is coming. Um, 93 00:08:35,085 --> 00:08:40,096 we have a site at the Evergreen Middle School there. We've met with the school district 94 00:08:40,096 --> 00:08:46,015 and they are super excited to partner with us. And we have an electrician going next 95 00:08:46,021 --> 00:08:51,038 week to get that site ready for the electrical part of that. And that unit will be 96 00:08:51,038 --> 00:08:56,007 installed. It'll be 18 lockers of bookholds that people will put on hold online and 97 00:08:56,007 --> 00:09:01,018 be able to pick them up and return them in Evergreen. So we're really excited to 98 00:09:01,018 --> 00:09:05,054 see what that looks like for services in that area cause we know that's a need, so. 99 00:09:05,094 --> 00:09:08,013 That's kind of a pilot project. See how that works. 100 00:09:10,014 --> 00:09:14,089 Um, Marion, we've reestablished our Marion Holds pickup. We started on September 101 00:09:14,089 --> 00:09:20,001 21st. The school there has volunteers, parent volunteers that kind of organize and 102 00:09:20,001 --> 00:09:25,012 they come to the library once a week. And we're excited to have that back in business. 103 00:09:25,054 --> 00:09:29,017 I'm not sure of those numbers yet. I'm curious to see how that, how that's used, 104 00:09:29,022 --> 00:09:32,089 um, but we're happy to be able to, to supply that again. 105 00:09:35,037 --> 00:09:38,096 Um, our Lakeside Library, as you know, too, it's a volunteer library, it's not our 106 00:09:38,096 --> 00:09:44,002 library, but it is a holds pickup library, and we do have our courier go there once, 107 00:09:44,061 --> 00:09:50,008 sometimes twice a week to take holds, pick up holds, folks can use that library as 108 00:09:50,008 --> 00:09:55,012 well. So we're really trying to get our, our services out through the county where 109 00:09:55,012 --> 00:09:58,096 we can. It's a big county, as you know, and so, um, we're trying to think of ways 110 00:09:58,096 --> 00:10:05,015 that we can help people get those library materials, um. Into the hands where it's 111 00:10:05,017 --> 00:10:06,028 more convenient for them. 112 00:10:09,004 --> 00:10:13,088 Um, staffing, we have a few open positions at the library. We have two part-time 113 00:10:13,088 --> 00:10:18,067 materials handlers position, that's kind of our entry level where folks come in and 114 00:10:18,067 --> 00:10:24,003 they make sure all our, our materials are handled, put in the right place so they 115 00:10:24,003 --> 00:10:27,083 can be found again. It could be absolute chaos if we don't put things back right 116 00:10:27,083 --> 00:10:34,008 where they belong. So there, there is a, a technique to that. Um, we also have a 117 00:10:34,008 --> 00:10:39,072 custodian position available. We have, we had a library courier that had to, um, 118 00:10:39,094 --> 00:10:46,001 retire and she, um, She was sad to go and we were sad to see her go, but she did 119 00:10:46,003 --> 00:10:50,021 want to retire and so one of our custodians applied for the, the courier position 120 00:10:50,021 --> 00:10:53,089 and they're doing a great job and we're excited, but of course, that opened up the 121 00:10:53,089 --> 00:11:00,032 courier position. So we'll be filling that. And also a technology manager position. 122 00:11:00,046 --> 00:11:06,061 Um, our IT technology administrator, Sam Crompton has retired and we're happy for 123 00:11:06,061 --> 00:11:12,004 him, but now we need to fill that position. So we have applications open for that 124 00:11:12,006 --> 00:11:16,029 and so far we, we've received one application, so we're looking at that, but we hope 125 00:11:16,029 --> 00:11:21,085 to get that filled within a um short time. Tony and I are handling those IT things 126 00:11:21,085 --> 00:11:25,091 in the meantime. And the county has been absolutely phenomenal with helping us. We'll 127 00:11:25,091 --> 00:11:30,013 call over to IT and say, hey, what is this if we get stuck, and they've been really 128 00:11:30,013 --> 00:11:37,061 great. So, do we have Um Have we looked at bringing 129 00:11:37,061 --> 00:11:43,033 IT just under one umbrella here like we've done out at FECC? Yes, we have. I know 130 00:11:43,033 --> 00:11:48,076 Justin and Terry have talked a little bit about that. Um, I would encourage exploring 131 00:11:48,076 --> 00:11:49,076 that more, um. 132 00:11:52,013 --> 00:11:56,088 But again, I think it's kind of up to the director and the board of trustees to make 133 00:11:56,088 --> 00:12:01,076 that, but yes, it has been discussed, especially with the opportunity of having the 134 00:12:01,076 --> 00:12:03,008 vacancy, efficiency thing 135 00:12:05,029 --> 00:12:08,091 same thing we do with 911. Yeah, same thing with the custodial service. 136 00:12:11,004 --> 00:12:15,039 I mean you could, you could find some synergies in economies of scale with custodian 137 00:12:15,039 --> 00:12:21,035 service and potentially the security as well. Yeah, yeah, anyway, just, just, just 138 00:12:21,035 --> 00:12:22,039 checking, thanks. 139 00:12:24,049 --> 00:12:28,063 Um, let's see, library count week. We just finished our library count week every 140 00:12:28,063 --> 00:12:35,028 year. We do statistics for the state library and we fill out a very large survey. 141 00:12:35,036 --> 00:12:41,008 They use those statistics to send to this, um, federal agency that they report to. 142 00:12:41,044 --> 00:12:46,053 And so that's quite a big process, but, um, This past week, we, we tracked reference 143 00:12:46,053 --> 00:12:50,085 questions because we're a big referral. We're information and referral, people will 144 00:12:50,085 --> 00:12:56,064 come to us and ask about Social Security or voting or registration or different um 145 00:12:57,026 --> 00:13:01,029 medical things that we find that information for them and send them to where they 146 00:13:01,029 --> 00:13:05,061 need to go. We, so that's kind of our bread and butter is referring those, those 147 00:13:05,061 --> 00:13:10,072 um that information to folks. And so, we track those which is really important and 148 00:13:10,072 --> 00:13:15,019 um That's always a fun time to tracking those. We've got lots of statistics, and 149 00:13:15,019 --> 00:13:21,018 then we have to figure out what to do with them. Um, and we do plan on getting that 150 00:13:21,018 --> 00:13:25,019 state funding, that state aid this year, um, that usually comes around in October 151 00:13:25,019 --> 00:13:30,043 and part of that reporting of those statistics goes toward that state aid as well, 152 00:13:30,052 --> 00:13:37,091 um, cause that's a required thing that we do. Happy to answer any questions. I don't 153 00:13:37,093 --> 00:13:43,007 have any. Thank you. Thank you. OK, thank you. Appreciate it. Does the, do the two 154 00:13:43,009 --> 00:13:45,048 board members have anything they'd like to share? 155 00:13:47,098 --> 00:13:52,014 OK, we, we are in recess until 9:30. Thanks. 156 00:13:54,039 --> 00:14:00,074 I, I call our meeting back to order. It's 9:30. It's our first item up is a COS review 157 00:14:00,074 --> 00:14:08,035 for Kelvin Gordon Graham, FSE 26-06. Good morning, Commissioners. 158 00:14:08,052 --> 00:14:14,054 Ella Jordan with uh Planning and zoning. Uh, so the matter at hand is potential evasion 159 00:14:14,054 --> 00:14:21,074 of the Montana Subdivision and Platting Act. Uh, the clerk and recorder office issued 160 00:14:21,074 --> 00:14:26,018 a letter indicating a proposed family transfer division may be an invasion of the 161 00:14:26,018 --> 00:14:31,025 Montana Subdivision and Planning Act because it exhibits a pattern of development 162 00:14:31,027 --> 00:14:36,016 under the Flathead County subdivision regulations. They are proposing in the new 163 00:14:36,016 --> 00:14:43,058 COS to divide the existing 3.72 acre parcel into two parcels and transferring it 164 00:14:43,058 --> 00:14:51,041 from to the spouse of the property owner. This would mean there are 165 00:14:51,043 --> 00:14:53,033 4 total tracks created. 166 00:14:56,039 --> 00:15:02,066 Since I guess 2003, uh, plus a remainder tract. Do you have any questions for me? 167 00:15:05,079 --> 00:15:12,065 Um, I don't see any of the consultants or the applicant. For questions, I'm sure 168 00:15:12,065 --> 00:15:15,021 they were notified. So 169 00:15:17,027 --> 00:15:18,002 Who notifies him? 170 00:15:21,006 --> 00:15:27,042 I let reporters know that this is going on and then I right so who, who notifies 171 00:15:27,044 --> 00:15:28,011 the applicant. 172 00:15:30,028 --> 00:15:36,067 The like the The clerk and recorder, I think it's clerk and recorder, OK. Well, I, 173 00:15:36,076 --> 00:15:44,029 I had some questions. I, so I don't know that, um, But I can proceed today with 174 00:15:44,029 --> 00:15:50,075 this. All right, yeah, I, I, I moved the table. I'll second that. I have a motion 175 00:15:50,075 --> 00:15:55,087 in a second. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor. Aye, 176 00:15:56,007 --> 00:16:03,059 aye oppose same sign. Motion carries back to order. Our first item up is our bi-monthly 177 00:16:03,059 --> 00:16:07,075 meeting with Liz Wood from Mountain Climber. Good morning, Commissioners. Liz Wood, 178 00:16:07,092 --> 00:16:12,079 director for Mountain Climber. Uh, we'll start with some safety. On our September 179 00:16:12,079 --> 00:16:17,069 22nd all-staff lunch meeting, we had Eli come visit us from the health department. 180 00:16:18,008 --> 00:16:25,031 He provided some instruction um on recognizing signs of opioid, opioid overdose and 181 00:16:25,031 --> 00:16:30,047 safety handling and administering of the naloxone. Um, I would just say that our 182 00:16:30,047 --> 00:16:34,051 drivers were very engaged in that. Uh, they always like it when we have a guest come 183 00:16:34,051 --> 00:16:38,023 and present for us and they were really engaged in that training, so it was good 184 00:16:38,023 --> 00:16:42,098 to have. Um, we went over lift mechanisms and safety troubleshooting on our two new 185 00:16:42,098 --> 00:16:48,026 vans. They are slightly different than our other Ford Transits. Our previous Ford 186 00:16:48,026 --> 00:16:55,071 Transits had the rear, um, lifts. These have side shift and, um, I guess 187 00:16:55,071 --> 00:17:00,036 deployment of the lift. So, we went over that with the drivers in case any of them 188 00:17:00,036 --> 00:17:04,062 were to have to switch vehicles. We like them to all be trained on all the equipment. 189 00:17:05,017 --> 00:17:10,004 Um, winter safety is rolled out, so we've got all of our snow tires already on all 190 00:17:10,004 --> 00:17:14,096 of our vehicles. So we like to get ahead of the busy season on that, so we're not 191 00:17:14,096 --> 00:17:21,005 stressing the tire shop out and we are good to go. Um, we've got all our salt buckets 192 00:17:21,005 --> 00:17:26,048 out, our sand barrels, uh, for them to fill up and have on their vehicles. Our cleat 193 00:17:26,048 --> 00:17:30,067 sign up sheets are out, so we'll make sure that everyone's got their proper safety. 194 00:17:31,049 --> 00:17:39,001 Feet out there on those icy roads when they come upon us. Um, ridership for this 195 00:17:39,001 --> 00:17:45,093 first quarter of this new fiscal year is down a little bit. Um, I do have the ridership. 196 00:17:47,046 --> 00:17:53,058 chart there. Um Basically, we have not been slower, I can tell you that. So what 197 00:17:53,058 --> 00:17:57,098 we experienced this summer, one, we did not have our seasonal driver this year. Our 198 00:17:57,098 --> 00:18:03,066 usual seasonal driver did not return this year, so we were kind of behind on getting 199 00:18:03,066 --> 00:18:08,005 that posted and getting that filled. Um, so we did not have that seasonal job this 200 00:18:08,005 --> 00:18:14,053 year. We also had like 2.5. Drivers at any given point that were out for medical 201 00:18:14,053 --> 00:18:20,041 leave this year, um, surgeries and such, so it really put us really behind on, on 202 00:18:20,041 --> 00:18:26,085 driver availability. So even though it reflects fewer rides over last year, we just 203 00:18:26,085 --> 00:18:31,021 had significantly fewer driver hours out there to provide those rides. So we were 204 00:18:31,021 --> 00:18:35,015 still very busy. I just want to kind of give an explanation on that. So Liz, that 205 00:18:35,015 --> 00:18:40,004 meant that when they tried to apply for, they went to via, they tried to get into 206 00:18:40,042 --> 00:18:46,099 it. They would have got a not available message, correct? Yes, either that or it's 207 00:18:46,099 --> 00:18:51,091 about 50% still of the riders that will call our office and visit with Brian or Eric 208 00:18:51,091 --> 00:18:58,008 on the phone and then they deny him the trip. So when, so we track those numbers 209 00:18:58,008 --> 00:19:04,017 also, do we show that as a spike in those numbers too? I will have to get back with 210 00:19:04,017 --> 00:19:08,066 you on that. I'll try to have a really good breakdown for you guys in our next report. 211 00:19:08,086 --> 00:19:14,021 Yeah, um, I mean, I'd be, I'd be guessing that we, it was probably maintaining. I 212 00:19:14,021 --> 00:19:18,065 don't really feel like it was a significant increase in that. I feel like it pretty 213 00:19:18,065 --> 00:19:24,013 maintained about the same percentage, but I'd be guessing if I figure that out. So 214 00:19:24,013 --> 00:19:30,014 I'll get that information for you next time, yeah. Um, so that gives you a little 215 00:19:30,014 --> 00:19:35,064 explanation on that. Um, our ridership for first quarter, as I mentioned, was down. 216 00:19:35,079 --> 00:19:41,054 It was down 1,205 rides. So, to give you an idea for July, August and September, 217 00:19:41,091 --> 00:19:49,068 about 1200 rides. Um, that being said, you're, this, this This year over the year, 218 00:19:49,007 --> 00:19:55,001 2 years ago, we're still significantly higher. So, I know I mentioned every, every 219 00:19:55,001 --> 00:19:59,064 report with you folks last year that um we were higher, higher, higher. We had significant 220 00:19:59,064 --> 00:20:05,041 increases all last year. So, we're still higher, significantly higher than FY 25. 221 00:20:05,005 --> 00:20:09,073 So, we're just still seeing that increase over a couple of years ago. Um. 222 00:20:12,014 --> 00:20:16,098 FY 26 breakdown, um, I gave that to you last time, but I just want to put a reminder 223 00:20:16,098 --> 00:20:21,034 in there of who we're serving, and we're still maintaining this for the first quarter 224 00:20:21,034 --> 00:20:28,021 of FY 27. So 46% of our rides are for what we call general public. 28% are provided 225 00:20:28,023 --> 00:20:34,049 to folks with disabilities, and 20, I think I said 28%, and 26% for older adults. 226 00:20:35,007 --> 00:20:39,002 So we're still very pleased with that. We're not seeing that number do any significant 227 00:20:39,002 --> 00:20:42,009 jumps in any direction, so it really demonstrates that we are servicing everyone 228 00:20:42,009 --> 00:20:47,058 in the community that needs that ride. We're not favoring our general ridership over 229 00:20:47,058 --> 00:20:52,046 our seniors or folks with disabilities, so we're very pleased with that. Um, a few 230 00:20:52,046 --> 00:20:59,015 updates, um, on operations and programming. Um, our grant funding, so we did have 231 00:20:59,015 --> 00:21:03,095 that grant application, um, and contract signed from the commissioners, but I just 232 00:21:03,095 --> 00:21:07,095 wanted to give you a heads up that that will probably be showing back up, um, in 233 00:21:07,095 --> 00:21:13,047 the EDoc signature email for you, Brad, or in your email. Um, they have a, a couple 234 00:21:13,047 --> 00:21:20,013 slight minor um additions on that. Um, they're basically just adding in 235 00:21:21,042 --> 00:21:26,023 Um, they're adding in the, the contract year and then they're adding in the FAN number. 236 00:21:26,038 --> 00:21:29,081 So very minimal changes on that, but that will come back before you commissioners 237 00:21:29,081 --> 00:21:36,008 for approval again here in the next few days. Um. MDT is still reviewing our 238 00:21:37,005 --> 00:21:42,005 capital requests for this year. Um, I have not heard any word back as to whether 239 00:21:42,005 --> 00:21:46,025 or not they're going to award us the two vans that we applied for or our paving project. 240 00:21:46,038 --> 00:21:50,067 So, that still is just maintaining. I will be visiting with Whitney to move forward 241 00:21:50,067 --> 00:21:56,053 with that, either way. Um, so, we can start planning for that to put that out for 242 00:21:56,053 --> 00:22:02,078 RFP, um. In the spring, uh, well, probably late winter, uh, but I'll get with Whitney 243 00:22:02,078 --> 00:22:10,001 on that to move forward on that. Um. We did receive word that the state has announced 244 00:22:10,001 --> 00:22:15,046 that they are not going to be accepting any applications for capital for FY 28. So 245 00:22:15,046 --> 00:22:22,026 we had originally planned to put in for 4 more vans next year for FY 28. Uh, they 246 00:22:22,026 --> 00:22:28,086 just have such a backlog on, um, trying for procurement, procurement on these vehicles 247 00:22:28,086 --> 00:22:32,062 that they're just not going to be taking any applications this next year. So that's 248 00:22:32,062 --> 00:22:39,028 a little unfortunate. So Liz, is that because of the Uh, the state, uh state backlog 249 00:22:39,028 --> 00:22:44,088 in their ability to process, or is it because the manufacturers have a backlog? It 250 00:22:44,088 --> 00:22:50,087 is the state, so they've, yeah, it's, it's a bit of a struggle right now, um, so 251 00:22:51,004 --> 00:22:55,059 it's, it's not, it's not, it's leaving a lot of these transit agencies in some significant 252 00:22:56,013 --> 00:23:02,019 tough spots. I mean our. Our current fleet, and it's not just ours, it's across the 253 00:23:02,019 --> 00:23:08,015 state, um, the state of disrepair and the cost for our maintenance is pretty significant. 254 00:23:08,028 --> 00:23:14,001 So, a lot of these agencies are, are gonna be in a tough spot. Um, so we won't be 255 00:23:14,001 --> 00:23:18,012 putting in for those next year unless something changes, but, uh, last word we heard, 256 00:23:18,014 --> 00:23:22,081 they will not be accepting any applications for capital. So that'll make us continue 257 00:23:22,081 --> 00:23:28,006 to use the bigger vans longer or bigger buses. It will, and like we, we have a vehicle 258 00:23:28,006 --> 00:23:32,081 that we have had in the shop. Um, we just put it out for one day and it's back in 259 00:23:32,081 --> 00:23:37,033 the shop and it's got 14 errors on it, so 14 codes thrown on it, and it's just like 260 00:23:37,033 --> 00:23:45,029 good night. So. Some of these vehicles significant, really high mileage, and it's 261 00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:51,034 really hitting us, so. Yeah, we're not the only ones, but it is, it is hurting us. 262 00:23:51,064 --> 00:23:58,019 Yeah, thank you. You're welcome. Um, so last report I reported that we completed, 263 00:23:58,028 --> 00:24:03,025 we were selected for an FDA drug and alcohol audit, one of our, uh, a couple of our 264 00:24:03,068 --> 00:24:07,047 final things that we're working on, um, and Tammy may have already rolled this out, 265 00:24:07,052 --> 00:24:12,075 but we had a few additions and changes to our drug and alcohol policy for the county 266 00:24:12,075 --> 00:24:17,009 because of this, um, and then additionally, Uh, one of the findings was tracking 267 00:24:17,009 --> 00:24:24,002 of our scheduled drug tests. And I want to thank IT for helping us get that rolled 268 00:24:24,002 --> 00:24:28,083 out super quick. So they have that for us now to utilize. Um, so we'll be basically, 269 00:24:28,091 --> 00:24:33,005 when we schedule those random drug tests, we will have a designated area in which 270 00:24:33,005 --> 00:24:38,086 we can schedule those and I, um, HR can see those and know that we have scheduled 271 00:24:38,086 --> 00:24:43,008 those tests and follow up on that. Um, so, thank you to IT for getting right on that. 272 00:24:43,099 --> 00:24:49,032 Uh, and it's not like they don't have a bunch of projects. So, they're awesome. Uh, 273 00:24:49,058 --> 00:24:54,056 staffing updates, we still have the part-time driver position that we posted a few 274 00:24:54,056 --> 00:25:00,044 months back. Um, And then we just had a driver that did resign. He's going to be 275 00:25:00,044 --> 00:25:05,049 moving out of state, so we have a full-time driver position posted, but As I always 276 00:25:05,049 --> 00:25:09,008 say, I'm super blessed because it seems like right at that moment when we really 277 00:25:09,001 --> 00:25:12,077 need those applicants, they come in. So, in the last few days, I've had 3 applicants 278 00:25:12,077 --> 00:25:17,009 and they look very promising and we have a couple of interviews scheduled today. 279 00:25:17,026 --> 00:25:21,089 So, I'm just blessed because I've never really been without the drivers to speak 280 00:25:21,089 --> 00:25:27,069 of. Um, so, I'm super excited for those interviews that we have scheduled. Um, but 281 00:25:27,069 --> 00:25:31,029 if you know of anyone, we do have a full-time driver position that is going to be 282 00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:36,034 posted probably today. And then we still have the part-time. So, we'd be happy to 283 00:25:36,034 --> 00:25:41,051 take any other individuals that are interested in applying for that. Uh, service 284 00:25:41,051 --> 00:25:46,091 planning, we are currently in the middle of our planning process for this next year, 285 00:25:47,008 --> 00:25:52,069 uh, the planning that we have to do for our 5311 grant, uh, application process. 286 00:25:53,012 --> 00:26:00,079 Um, so, a lot of the same stuff there. I just reiterated for this, um, report. Uh, 287 00:26:01,008 --> 00:26:05,023 continued discussions on fare increases, but we aren't making really much headway 288 00:26:05,023 --> 00:26:08,099 in that discussion. There's just a lot going on in our TAC meeting, so we have tabled 289 00:26:08,099 --> 00:26:15,043 that to our December meeting again. Um, we're still looking at increased financial 290 00:26:15,043 --> 00:26:19,046 participation from our municipalities. I'm feeling better about those discussions, 291 00:26:19,064 --> 00:26:25,058 uh, We launched a community transportation needs assessment survey in October. So, 292 00:26:25,006 --> 00:26:30,051 you might see those QR codes floating around and I would encourage um anyone that 293 00:26:30,051 --> 00:26:33,079 you might know that might benefit from transportation to fill that out just to give 294 00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:38,079 us an idea of what their needs are for transportation in the valley. Um, so, the 295 00:26:38,079 --> 00:26:43,047 information we collect from this survey will help us with our 5311 grant application 296 00:26:43,047 --> 00:26:49,069 process. Um, we did move our annual public meetings from December to October, so 297 00:26:49,089 --> 00:26:54,068 I do have our Kalispell annual public meeting that will be held today this afternoon 298 00:26:54,068 --> 00:27:00,026 from 1:30 to 3, and that will be over at the Agency on Aging, well, the South Campus 299 00:27:00,026 --> 00:27:04,068 building up on the second floor meeting room. Um, and then this evening, we'll have 300 00:27:04,068 --> 00:27:09,037 our, uh, Whitefish annual public meeting that will be held at the Whitefish City 301 00:27:09,037 --> 00:27:16,061 Council chambers from 7 until 8:30. Um, We did participate. 302 00:27:17,011 --> 00:27:23,075 In a vendor expo, the Navigating Aging Expo that was held by IPAGA Healthcare, um, 303 00:27:23,091 --> 00:27:28,002 that was over at the mall, and we really enjoyed doing that. It was on a Saturday 304 00:27:28,002 --> 00:27:31,046 and we had a couple, uh, staff that were willing to go man that booth, and it was 305 00:27:31,046 --> 00:27:35,049 a good day, and we had a lot of good interactions with some folks from the public 306 00:27:35,051 --> 00:27:42,025 that really could benefit from our services. Um, so, for community engagement, um, 307 00:27:42,062 --> 00:27:47,094 I just want to put a reminder out there that we do have some openings on our transportation 308 00:27:47,094 --> 00:27:54,021 advisory Committee still. We did get some recently filled this year, but, um, we 309 00:27:54,021 --> 00:27:57,065 still have some openings. So, we would love to have anyone in the public that has 310 00:27:57,065 --> 00:28:02,025 an interest in transportation that would like to join us to apply for that. And our 311 00:28:02,025 --> 00:28:07,028 next Transportation Advisory Committee meeting will be held on December 3rd. Um, 312 00:28:07,032 --> 00:28:15,003 at the usual time over at the South Campus. Any questions? Yeah, you gave them naloxone. 313 00:28:16,006 --> 00:28:20,093 Training. Have any of the drivers had to use that? They have not. They have not, 314 00:28:21,002 --> 00:28:24,029 but they carry it all the time. They do. We have it on our vehicles at all times 315 00:28:24,029 --> 00:28:29,053 and we had some of them take it home. They have teenagers in the home or something. 316 00:28:29,062 --> 00:28:34,045 I mean, it's just, it's one of those things that you just never know nowadays who, 317 00:28:34,061 --> 00:28:39,033 what, where. It's good training to have, I think, and can make a real difference 318 00:28:39,033 --> 00:28:44,017 in saving someone's life. And you get that through the health department, yes. And 319 00:28:44,017 --> 00:28:48,041 really anyone can get those. They have an endless supply of it. Anyone that would 320 00:28:48,041 --> 00:28:51,072 like to pick that up, they can stop in there and get some and have it at their house, 321 00:28:51,086 --> 00:28:55,018 have it in their cars, wherever they'd like. So yeah, I've gone through there and 322 00:28:55,018 --> 00:29:00,023 seen this. They just got a box of it sitting out. Yeah, yeah, OK. That was my only 323 00:29:00,023 --> 00:29:05,085 question. Yeah, thank you. You're welcome. Thank you, commissioner. We'll be in recess 324 00:29:05,085 --> 00:29:10,009 for about 2 minutes. It is 10 o'clock. I call our meeting back to order. Our first 325 00:29:10,092 --> 00:29:17,058 item up is an award and RFP for the Public Safety Facility commissioning agent. Good 326 00:29:17,006 --> 00:29:22,000 morning, Whitney Ashawald Commissioner's Office. We received 4 proposals for this 327 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:28,044 commissioning agent, um. Two of the proposals did not submit the required signed 328 00:29:28,044 --> 00:29:33,008 cover sheet, so we did discuss it with legal, and since it was a requirement of the 329 00:29:33,008 --> 00:29:38,008 proposal, they recommended that those two be disqualified. So our review team moved 330 00:29:38,008 --> 00:29:43,096 forward with scoring the remaining two proposals. Um, Elkhorn Commissioning received 331 00:29:43,096 --> 00:29:51,055 a score of 615 and Northwest Technical Services received a score of 600. So our recommendation, 332 00:29:51,009 --> 00:29:54,097 excuse me, would be to move forward with Elkhorn commissioning. 333 00:30:01,038 --> 00:30:09,002 Mr. Chair, I move The uh uh To award the RFP for the Public Safety Facility 334 00:30:09,002 --> 00:30:16,003 commissioning agent to Elkhorn Elkhorn Commissioning. 2nd. I have a motion to 2nd 335 00:30:16,003 --> 00:30:21,082 is there further discussion. Hearing none, all those in favor, aye, oppose same sign, 336 00:30:21,087 --> 00:30:23,014 motion carries. 337 00:30:25,022 --> 00:30:30,047 Our next item is consideration of authorization to publish an RFQ for the North Fork 338 00:30:30,047 --> 00:30:35,086 Guardrail Replacement Project. Yeah, this is just to start the process to hiring 339 00:30:35,086 --> 00:30:41,062 that engineering firm. So we had put it out um for them to submit proposals. Mr. 340 00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:47,098 Chair, I move authorization to publish an RFQ for North Fork Guardrail replacement 341 00:30:47,098 --> 00:30:53,039 project. Say again. I have a motion to second as there further discussion. Hearing 342 00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:58,075 none, all those in favor. Aye, aye, both same sign, motion carries. Thank you. We 343 00:30:58,075 --> 00:31:00,088 are in recess until 10:15. 344 00:31:06,052 --> 00:31:10,051 You have to go out cutting out on the river. Yeah, it's like Lucy Clark did look 345 00:31:10,051 --> 00:31:11,095 where they were up and they were. 346 00:31:14,014 --> 00:31:17,065 They were, you looked it up. There's several islands out there that are public. Are 347 00:31:17,065 --> 00:31:25,053 you ready? It is 10:15. Um, our first item up is consideration of SIA for East Village 348 00:31:25,053 --> 00:31:26,014 phase one. 349 00:31:30,075 --> 00:31:35,098 Good morning, Commissioners. Ella Jordan, Planning and Zoning. Uh, so there has been 350 00:31:35,098 --> 00:31:43,069 a request to extend the SIA for Eagle Run or East Village, sorry, um, East Village 351 00:31:43,069 --> 00:31:48,038 Phase One. The applicant originally provided cash collateral which remains on deposit 352 00:31:48,038 --> 00:31:56,001 with the Fly County treasurer and continues to be valid at this time. The Original 353 00:31:57,041 --> 00:32:04,075 SIA expires on October 15th of 2026. Uh, the extension deadline request was, 354 00:32:05,013 --> 00:32:12,034 uh, On September 1st, 2026. And uh they have provided the 355 00:32:13,008 --> 00:32:16,062 uh 125% surety in cash. 356 00:32:18,088 --> 00:32:26,006 Uh, they're requesting to extend the SIA to January 31st of 357 00:32:26,009 --> 00:32:34,007 2027. 27 202,020. Uh, recruitment required 358 00:32:34,007 --> 00:32:41,093 improvement shall be fully completed by January 31st, 2027. Mr. Chair, I move SIA 359 00:32:41,093 --> 00:32:48,041 extension for East Village Phase One in the amount of $235,000. 2nd, I have a question. 360 00:32:49,081 --> 00:32:55,056 Um, Mr. Chair, uh, could you, and this may be for Eric, Eric, are you the representative? 361 00:32:56,059 --> 00:33:04,054 Um, I represent WSI. I'm not OK, so what has been done in the past year 362 00:33:04,054 --> 00:33:09,054 on this that, that would say it's an extension, but they're moving ahead with, with 363 00:33:09,054 --> 00:33:16,049 work? Um, I don't believe we've been given that information. You might have a better, 364 00:33:16,075 --> 00:33:21,022 um, understanding of. Yeah, it's They've completed 365 00:33:21,024 --> 00:33:28,094 $5,438,611.61. And they have 188,000 left, which 366 00:33:29,043 --> 00:33:34,035 with the 125% remaining is 235,000. 367 00:33:36,081 --> 00:33:42,007 I just, and I didn't, I didn't find that, Commissioner Holmquist, where did you find 368 00:33:42,029 --> 00:33:48,039 what they've completed in the past year? I got it in my inbox in my office, and it's 369 00:33:48,045 --> 00:33:56,043 on the back. Page of that If you go back to the last page, it'll show 370 00:33:56,043 --> 00:34:02,007 you, yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, we should have all got that. I think we got that. 371 00:34:02,028 --> 00:34:06,094 I just wasn't sure which, which of that's been completed since they got the original 372 00:34:07,028 --> 00:34:13,009 SIA. Looks like they've completed 97% if you go back to page. 373 00:34:15,012 --> 00:34:22,005 Go back one page and it'll show you what's 100% completed. OK. It listed dryer 374 00:34:22,005 --> 00:34:27,091 utilities, OK, all that. All right. I just, I, I just wanted to make sure that this 375 00:34:27,091 --> 00:34:33,022 project hasn't stalled at all. And, uh, so have you been out on site? No, not for 376 00:34:33,022 --> 00:34:37,098 this. OK. All right, thank you. So I have a motion in a second. Is there further 377 00:34:37,098 --> 00:34:45,000 discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor. Aye, aye oppose same sign. Motion carries. 378 00:34:45,047 --> 00:34:50,086 Our next item is a consideration of an SIA extension for Eagle Run. 379 00:34:53,088 --> 00:34:59,018 Hello Jordan planning and zoning. Um, so we received the request to extend the timeline 380 00:34:59,018 --> 00:35:06,031 for the previously approved SIA for Eagle Run. Uh, the applicant has provided a revised 381 00:35:06,031 --> 00:35:10,099 agreement, the required engineer certification, and an updated letter of credit which 382 00:35:10,099 --> 00:35:17,063 carries a maturity date of September 30th, 2027. Um, the original SIA was set to 383 00:35:17,063 --> 00:35:25,001 expire on August 16th of 2026 and the deadline was July 6, 2026. Um, 384 00:35:25,084 --> 00:35:29,008 the letter of credit that is currently Um 385 00:35:31,041 --> 00:35:38,037 On file expires on October 15, 2026. Do you have any questions, 386 00:35:39,044 --> 00:35:44,064 Mr. Chair? I'd move. Um, the SA extension for Eagle Run. 387 00:35:47,024 --> 00:35:51,047 I'll second it. I have a motion to second it for the discussion. Mr. Chair, I have 388 00:35:51,047 --> 00:35:57,021 the same question. Do you know what's been completed in the past year? Um, let's 389 00:35:57,021 --> 00:35:59,004 see. It looks like 390 00:36:02,055 --> 00:36:10,000 The improvements have not been completed. They've provided. A TDNH 391 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,098 Engineering provided an invoice of the work completed and the work remaining. And 392 00:36:16,029 --> 00:36:21,004 those work, the work completed, do you know if that was in the past year or if that 393 00:36:21,004 --> 00:36:25,077 was before that, and I think. Coming up to rescue you, Erin planning and zoning, 394 00:36:26,009 --> 00:36:31,002 um, so we don't require that info with their SIA extension request, um, but if we 395 00:36:31,002 --> 00:36:35,072 were to have the previous SIA and the, you know, estimates, um, that would, I guess, 396 00:36:35,089 --> 00:36:39,004 allow for a comparison, but I don't believe we have that in front of us right now 397 00:36:39,004 --> 00:36:44,023 at this moment, um, but yeah, we just We, we don't require that. Only for we don't 398 00:36:44,023 --> 00:36:48,063 do a site visit to make not until the essay has been completed, then we go out and 399 00:36:48,063 --> 00:36:54,027 verify. OK, thank you. Is there further discussion. Hearing none, all those in favor. 400 00:36:54,076 --> 00:37:02,055 I propose same sign. Motion carries. Our next one up is consideration of an SIA extension 401 00:37:02,055 --> 00:37:07,031 for Tamarack Meadows. Erin, effort planning and zoning. This is a request to extend 402 00:37:07,031 --> 00:37:14,015 the SIA for Tamarack Meadows. The um estimates from the engineer indicates that they 403 00:37:14,015 --> 00:37:21,077 are 99% complete, um. There's an existing bond that will not expire 404 00:37:21,077 --> 00:37:29,061 um in the New SIA would expire June 30th, 2027. And it is 405 00:37:29,061 --> 00:37:34,089 in the amount of $94,693.75. 406 00:37:37,047 --> 00:37:45,043 I move SIA extension for Tamarack Meadows in the amount of $94,693.75. 407 00:37:47,028 --> 00:37:51,069 I have a motion to second for further discussion. Hearing none, all those in favor. 408 00:37:51,082 --> 00:37:57,001 Aye, aye, oppose same sign. Motion carries. We are in recess until 10:30. 409 00:38:00,026 --> 00:38:08,019 It is 10:30. I call our meeting back to order. Our first item up is Preliminary plat 410 00:38:08,025 --> 00:38:09,049 for Homestead Bluff. 411 00:38:13,062 --> 00:38:18,001 Erin Eppert, planning and zoning. So, this is a request for preliminary plot approval 412 00:38:18,001 --> 00:38:23,005 of a one-lot residential subdivision. The property is approximately 25 acres and 413 00:38:23,005 --> 00:38:29,033 it's currently the open space area for the homestead at Whitefish Phase One. and 414 00:38:29,033 --> 00:38:35,085 so, it has their kind of entrance, um, gate and guard check and mailboxes and kind 415 00:38:35,085 --> 00:38:43,032 of a, um, little, um, golf course. Um, and then, The proposed residential lot would 416 00:38:43,032 --> 00:38:48,039 kind of break off the piece along Star Meadows Road. It'd be about 11 acres in size, 417 00:38:48,097 --> 00:38:56,067 and the rest would remain open space. Um, and so, There was one agency comment. It 418 00:38:56,067 --> 00:39:01,023 was from the Road and Bridge Department, and it kind of alludes to some previous 419 00:39:01,023 --> 00:39:06,031 correspondence that uh Dave Parenti had had with the, with Eric Mulcahy um regarding 420 00:39:06,031 --> 00:39:12,047 direct access for this lot onto Star Meadows Road. Um, it's not ideal, but they, 421 00:39:12,052 --> 00:39:16,055 uh, agreed to it due to just the topography in this case, it sounds like it would 422 00:39:16,055 --> 00:39:21,098 be difficult to get a driveway onto the internal subdivision road. So Dave was in 423 00:39:21,098 --> 00:39:27,034 agreement with that, and you'll notice there's a condition. The planning board during 424 00:39:27,034 --> 00:39:34,017 their public hearing, they amended condition number 19 and then added condition number 425 00:39:34,017 --> 00:39:38,042 20, which says there shall not be any future resubdivision of Lot 1, so not just 426 00:39:38,042 --> 00:39:43,002 prohibiting um additional driveways, but also just prohibiting additional subdivision 427 00:39:43,002 --> 00:39:47,076 of the lot. Um, I think that's all I have at this point, unless you have any questions 428 00:39:47,082 --> 00:39:48,032 for me. 429 00:39:50,064 --> 00:39:52,081 No, I, I think we can go into findings. 430 00:40:00,087 --> 00:40:04,097 Number one, impacts to the natural environment associated with streams, wetlands, 431 00:40:04,099 --> 00:40:09,018 and floodplains are expected to be limited. A stream feature is identified on the 432 00:40:09,018 --> 00:40:15,054 National Hydrography data set. And is addressed in the submitted Riparian Resource 433 00:40:15,054 --> 00:40:19,054 Management Plan. However, the environmental assessment characterizes the feature 434 00:40:19,054 --> 00:40:24,001 as a man-made water feature. The Riparian Resource Management Plan identifies the 435 00:40:24,001 --> 00:40:28,058 feature as an intermittent creek associated with the existing pitch and putt course 436 00:40:28,058 --> 00:40:33,058 and does not propose a vegetative buffer. The subject property does not contain wetlands 437 00:40:33,058 --> 00:40:39,095 or a 100-year floodplain. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Number 2, no impacts from soils 438 00:40:39,095 --> 00:40:43,083 and geological hazards are anticipated because the preliminary plan indicates the 439 00:40:43,083 --> 00:40:49,015 proposed building site is located outside of areas with slopes greater than 25%, 440 00:40:49,048 --> 00:40:54,051 and soil types on the subject property appear suitable for development. Agreed. 441 00:40:58,001 --> 00:41:02,087 Number 3, the subdivision is expected to have minimal impact on vegetation, wildlife, 442 00:41:02,089 --> 00:41:07,055 and wildlife habitat. Vegetation on the property consists primarily of coniferous 443 00:41:07,055 --> 00:41:12,062 forest and landscaped open space. While species of concern have documented occurrences 444 00:41:12,092 --> 00:41:17,015 in the surrounding area, the property does not contain identified critical plant 445 00:41:17,015 --> 00:41:22,076 communities, key wildlife areas, or critical wildlife habitat. The proposed subdivision 446 00:41:22,076 --> 00:41:27,071 would create a single residential lot within an existing 24 acre open space area 447 00:41:27,081 --> 00:41:32,076 with the remaining open space continuing to provide wildlife habitat. The existing 448 00:41:32,076 --> 00:41:38,053 water feature is man-made and does not provide riparian habitat. Existing CCNRs address 449 00:41:38,053 --> 00:41:43,084 potential wildlife impacts associated with pets and wildlife attractants. No comments 450 00:41:43,084 --> 00:41:47,056 were received from Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks. Additionally, a weed control 451 00:41:47,056 --> 00:41:52,016 plan will be required prior to final pot approval. Agreed. Agreed, and I have a question, 452 00:41:52,033 --> 00:41:58,062 Erin. Um, uh, this has been mentioned twice in here so far. The, the man-made, um, 453 00:41:59,013 --> 00:42:05,071 water. Effects or whatever it's called um. Can we actually use it if it's man-made? 454 00:42:05,074 --> 00:42:10,061 Can we use it as something that could possibly restrict anything? Because if it's 455 00:42:10,061 --> 00:42:12,037 man-made, it could also be removed. 456 00:42:15,011 --> 00:42:21,031 Um, you mean can like a vegetative buffer be required, or yeah, well, right now we're, 457 00:42:21,051 --> 00:42:28,045 we're considering this as, as a man-made feature, but before it was a man-made feature. 458 00:42:29,038 --> 00:42:36,019 Was it So in other words, if man made it, man could take it away, would it then be 459 00:42:36,019 --> 00:42:44,002 something that would not affect That we would not consider in this. If it, if 460 00:42:44,002 --> 00:42:51,001 there was no stream present, um, yeah, it's like I said, it's showing up on both 461 00:42:51,001 --> 00:42:52,002 the um 462 00:42:54,029 --> 00:43:00,025 The data set on the IMA as well as the uh National Wetlands Inventory you'll see 463 00:43:00,025 --> 00:43:05,057 it's uh you know noted there um this is the first time I've seen us considered a 464 00:43:05,057 --> 00:43:12,077 man-made feature. OK, yeah, it's a little unusual um. But I think it's just really 465 00:43:12,077 --> 00:43:18,039 a matter of noting it is there, um, but yeah, based on the, the, um, The information 466 00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:24,003 provided by the applicant's technical representative, it does not appear to be naturally 467 00:43:24,003 --> 00:43:28,071 occurring, um, but they still did provide that riparity resource management management 468 00:43:28,071 --> 00:43:35,036 plan. Great. Thank you. Number 4, there would be minimal impact on agriculture, timber 469 00:43:35,036 --> 00:43:39,099 production, and agricultural water user facilities as a result of the proposed subdivision 470 00:43:40,036 --> 00:43:44,019 because the subject property is not used for agriculture or timber production and 471 00:43:44,019 --> 00:43:48,059 does not contain agricultural water user facilities, and the proposed subdivision 472 00:43:48,059 --> 00:43:53,021 would not require access from the adjacent US Forest Service land. Agreed, agreed. 473 00:43:55,044 --> 00:43:59,043 Number 5, the proposed subdivision is anticipated to have minimal impact on water 474 00:43:59,043 --> 00:44:03,083 and wastewater services. Lot 1 would be served by a proposed individual well and 475 00:44:03,083 --> 00:44:09,023 septic system, while the existing wells and septic system within open space A would 476 00:44:09,023 --> 00:44:13,078 remain unchanged. The proposed water supply and wastewater. Disposal systems will 477 00:44:13,078 --> 00:44:17,074 be reviewed and approved by the Montana Department of Environmental Quality and the 478 00:44:17,074 --> 00:44:22,007 Flathead City County Health Department as applicable prior to final Platte approval. 479 00:44:22,032 --> 00:44:27,033 Agreed. Agreed. Number 6. Impacts related to stormwater drainage are anticipated 480 00:44:27,033 --> 00:44:31,073 to be minimal because a conceptual stormwater management plan. Has been submitted 481 00:44:31,075 --> 00:44:37,046 in accordance with Section 7.13 of the Flathead County Subdivision regulations. Lot 482 00:44:37,046 --> 00:44:41,077 1 qualifies for a stormwater exemption, and detention swales are proposed within 483 00:44:41,079 --> 00:44:46,074 open space A to manage stormwater runoff. The stormwater management plan will be 484 00:44:46,074 --> 00:44:50,009 required to be reviewed and approved by the Montana Department of Environmental Quality 485 00:44:50,009 --> 00:44:55,087 for compliance with applicable state standards prior to final Plat approval. Agreed. 486 00:44:56,005 --> 00:45:01,006 Agreed. Number 7, impacts on solid waste disposal would be acceptable with standard 487 00:45:01,006 --> 00:45:04,074 conditions because the subdivision would utilize contract haul services for solid 488 00:45:04,074 --> 00:45:10,032 waste disposal. Agreed. Number 8. Impacts to air quality and noise are anticipated 489 00:45:10,032 --> 00:45:15,002 to be minimal because the construction-related noise and vibration will be temporary. 490 00:45:15,005 --> 00:45:19,073 The proposed residential use is not anticipated to result in noise levels or activity 491 00:45:19,073 --> 00:45:24,045 substantially different from those typical of a residential area. Primary access 492 00:45:24,045 --> 00:45:28,005 roads are paved, and a dust control plan will be required to mitigate potential dust 493 00:45:28,005 --> 00:45:31,085 impacts during construction and development activity. Agreedy. 494 00:45:34,007 --> 00:45:39,052 Number 9, the proposed subdivision would have minimal impacts on area roads. Lot 495 00:45:39,052 --> 00:45:43,098 1 would be accessed from an existing approach onto Star Meadows Road due to site 496 00:45:43,098 --> 00:45:49,042 topography. The addition of 11 residential lot is expected to generate approximately 497 00:45:49,042 --> 00:45:54,049 9.43 average daily trips. The Flathead County Road and Bridge Department requested 498 00:45:54,051 --> 00:45:59,018 that further subdivision of Lot 1 be prohibited, and the condition of approval will 499 00:45:59,018 --> 00:46:04,036 prohibit additional access onto Star Meadows Road. An approach permit from the Flathead 500 00:46:04,036 --> 00:46:08,012 County Road and Bridge Department will be required prior to final Platte approval. 501 00:46:08,003 --> 00:46:14,084 No pedestrian or bicycle easement is required. Agreed. Agreed. Number 10. The property 502 00:46:14,084 --> 00:46:19,064 is located within the Star Meadows Rural Fire District and the Wildland Urban Interface. 503 00:46:20,001 --> 00:46:24,004 The subdivision will be required to comply with applicable county addressing and 504 00:46:24,004 --> 00:46:29,000 emergency response requirements. A wildland fire fuels reduction in maintenance plan. 505 00:46:29,018 --> 00:46:35,016 Has been provided and includes ongoing fuel reduction and maintenance measures. Written 506 00:46:35,016 --> 00:46:39,045 verification from the local fire protection authority that the approved plan has 507 00:46:39,045 --> 00:46:45,066 been completed will be required prior to final Plat approval. Agreed. Agreed. Number 508 00:46:45,066 --> 00:46:49,046 11, the subdivision will be served by the Flathead County Sheriff's Office, which 509 00:46:49,046 --> 00:46:54,021 did not provide comment, and emergency response times will vary depending on deputy 510 00:46:54,023 --> 00:46:59,011 availability. Emergency medical services are expected to be provided by the Star 511 00:46:59,011 --> 00:47:03,074 Meadows Rural Fire District and the alert service through Logan Health Medical Center. 512 00:47:03,099 --> 00:47:10,045 Agreed. Agreed. Number 12. Impacts on local services, including schools, mail delivery, 513 00:47:10,047 --> 00:47:15,005 and recreation are expected to be minimal. The proposed subdivision is anticipated 514 00:47:15,005 --> 00:47:20,034 to generate approximately 1 additional student for the local school districts. No 515 00:47:20,034 --> 00:47:24,082 parkland dedication is required and written approval from the local postmaster will 516 00:47:24,082 --> 00:47:31,096 be required prior to final plot approval. Agreed, green. Number 13. Impacts to public 517 00:47:31,096 --> 00:47:36,042 health and safety from high voltage electric lines, high pressure gas lines, Superfund 518 00:47:36,042 --> 00:47:41,021 sites, abandoned landfills, mines, or sewer treatment plants are not anticipated 519 00:47:41,063 --> 00:47:45,033 because those features do not exist on the property and the proposed subdivision 520 00:47:45,033 --> 00:47:51,081 is not located within an airport influenced area. Number 14. The proposed subdivision 521 00:47:51,081 --> 00:47:56,093 would not adversely impact historical features because no known historical, archaeological, 522 00:47:57,001 --> 00:48:02,085 or cultural sites exist on the subject property. Agreed. Agreed. Number 15. The preliminary 523 00:48:02,085 --> 00:48:06,073 platte would conform to all provisions of the Montana Subdivision and Platting Act 524 00:48:06,073 --> 00:48:11,009 if it contains all elements required to meet state survey requirements, which would 525 00:48:11,009 --> 00:48:15,033 be determined when it is reviewed by the Flathead County Examining Land Surveyor 526 00:48:15,033 --> 00:48:21,012 prior to final Platte approval. Agreed. Number 16. The proposed subdivision has been 527 00:48:21,012 --> 00:48:25,007 reviewed as a major subdivision in accordance with statutory criteria and standards 528 00:48:25,007 --> 00:48:30,009 outlined in Chapter 5 of the Flathead County Subdivision Regulations, effective October 529 00:48:30,009 --> 00:48:37,084 9, 2025. Agreed. Number 17. The preliminary plot identifies adequate easements for 530 00:48:37,084 --> 00:48:43,005 utilities to serve the subdivision. All other easements associated with this subdivision 531 00:48:43,049 --> 00:48:48,015 and the subdivided property shall be located on the final plot to satisfy applicable 532 00:48:48,015 --> 00:48:52,088 requirements of the Montana Subdivision and Platting Act and the Flathead County 533 00:48:52,088 --> 00:48:58,007 subdivision regulations. Agreed. Agreed. Number 18. Legal and physical access to 534 00:48:58,007 --> 00:49:03,002 the proposed lot would be provided by an individual driveway approach onto Star Meadows 535 00:49:03,002 --> 00:49:09,033 Road, a paved county collector road within a 60-foot wide right of way. Agreed. Number 536 00:49:09,033 --> 00:49:13,077 19. The proposed subdivision is not located within a neighborhood plan area and the 537 00:49:13,077 --> 00:49:18,016 property is not zoned. The project is generally consistent with the Flathead County 538 00:49:18,034 --> 00:49:22,097 growth policy as subdivision review regulations implement the policy's goals and 539 00:49:22,097 --> 00:49:30,027 standards. Agreed. Agreed. Number 20. Pursuant to section 2.12 FCSR, preliminary 540 00:49:30,027 --> 00:49:35,043 plot approvals remain valid for 3 years, necessitating specific procedural deadlines 541 00:49:35,043 --> 00:49:41,034 for final plot submittals, 45 working days before expiration, and extension requests, 542 00:49:41,036 --> 00:49:46,039 30 working days before expiration to ensure orderly administrative review and timely 543 00:49:46,039 --> 00:49:52,066 project completion. Agreed, agreed. Number 21. Before final Platt approval, the applicant 544 00:49:52,066 --> 00:49:57,018 must demonstrate substantial compliance with the approved preliminary Platt and either 545 00:49:57,018 --> 00:50:01,045 complete all required improvements or enter into a subdivision improvement agreement 546 00:50:01,047 --> 00:50:05,006 with an appropriate financial guarantee. Agreed, agreed. 547 00:50:07,038 --> 00:50:12,088 Mr. Chair, I move the findings as read. 2, I have a motion as second. Is there further 548 00:50:12,009 --> 00:50:19,036 discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor. Aye, aye, both same sign. Motion carry. 549 00:50:19,046 --> 00:50:24,041 Mr. Chair, move preliminary platform, said bluff. Second, I have a motion and second 550 00:50:24,041 --> 00:50:30,026 is there further discussion. Hearing none, all those in favor. Aye, both same sign. 551 00:50:30,066 --> 00:50:32,000 Motion carries. 552 00:50:35,084 --> 00:50:43,069 Oh, our next item up is consideration of lakeshore permit, FLP-26-88 for Alisa Brewster, 553 00:50:43,086 --> 00:50:45,067 flathead activity, boat lift. 554 00:50:48,057 --> 00:50:50,056 Good morning, Kevin Shermer of Flathead County. 555 00:50:52,075 --> 00:50:57,006 Looking at my, yes, that's, I don't, oh, you were, oh, OK, sorry. 556 00:51:00,067 --> 00:51:07,042 It's OK. Uh, Kevin Ser, Flathead County Planning and Zoning. Good morning. This is 557 00:51:07,042 --> 00:51:11,015 for the FLP 2688. 558 00:51:14,026 --> 00:51:15,039 Which is 559 00:51:21,051 --> 00:51:22,001 Put it the wrong 560 00:51:28,016 --> 00:51:34,027 Yes, um, the owner being, uh, Mission View Terrace, HOA, and the applicant being. 561 00:51:36,035 --> 00:51:43,072 Brewster, the applicant is requesting to install an 11 ft by 9 ft 562 00:51:43,072 --> 00:51:51,004 freestanding boat lift in boat slip 103 in an existing dock in the 563 00:51:51,004 --> 00:51:58,017 private marina owned by Mission View Terrace HOA. The property is an existing marina. 564 00:51:59,093 --> 00:52:06,031 This project does not increase the impervious cover. No mechanical machinery will 565 00:52:06,031 --> 00:52:12,065 be used to install the boat lift. All debris will be removed from the site and no 566 00:52:12,065 --> 00:52:16,093 construction materials will be stockpiled or stored within the lake or lake shore 567 00:52:16,093 --> 00:52:22,057 protection zone. All work will be done within the LPZ and no equipment will be in 568 00:52:22,057 --> 00:52:30,015 contact with the lake. Um, Kevin, you rec we received some, um, public comment. 569 00:52:30,063 --> 00:52:34,006 What came in late last night in our emails, but that was forwarded to you this morning. 570 00:52:34,082 --> 00:52:39,099 Yes. Have you had a chance to look at that briefly? Yes, I did briefly. So on this 571 00:52:39,099 --> 00:52:46,011 particular one. It talks about Some 572 00:52:47,076 --> 00:52:52,025 Clerical errors in which boat slip it is. Can you address that? 573 00:52:58,011 --> 00:53:02,058 Says that the draft permitted certificate states that lift is installed in boat slip 574 00:53:02,058 --> 00:53:10,043 103. However, the applicant said slip 21. And photographed and handwritten notes 575 00:53:10,043 --> 00:53:17,002 referenced Dock 21 near Lake Shore Drive. So there's some Correct, it should be docked 576 00:53:17,002 --> 00:53:23,092 slip 21. I'm sorry, it should be in slip 21. OK, so can you explain why there's 577 00:53:26,029 --> 00:53:30,016 Why the discrepancy? No, right, there's these errors. 578 00:53:32,099 --> 00:53:34,003 No, no, OK. 579 00:53:36,028 --> 00:53:37,004 There was also 580 00:53:39,061 --> 00:53:45,093 A talk about also an error. It said the permit applicant requested 11 by 11 ft. But 581 00:53:45,093 --> 00:53:49,028 the permit is 11 by 9 ft. Can you address that? 582 00:53:57,034 --> 00:54:02,053 I know we got these late and I, and it's, it's unfortunate because I don't know that, 583 00:54:02,058 --> 00:54:06,009 I don't see that, I see you haven't had really time to look at this. I haven't had 584 00:54:06,009 --> 00:54:07,001 time to address that. 585 00:54:16,098 --> 00:54:21,062 I have not had time to review that specific. I have to review that, OK. There's also, 586 00:54:21,082 --> 00:54:25,033 well, you can go down the rest of it. They're talking about the authorization form 587 00:54:25,033 --> 00:54:31,092 and having the OK of the HOA board, and you got it all, yeah, and on the HOA board 588 00:54:31,094 --> 00:54:36,098 for that. So they were, they signed on the applicant. On the application itself giving 589 00:54:36,098 --> 00:54:43,004 you authorization, so the HOA did that's covered, that's covered, OK. So 590 00:54:46,029 --> 00:54:52,003 I think it's imperative we get our paperwork correct, correct, and it is for, um, 591 00:54:52,002 --> 00:54:56,091 it's we're not changing the dimensions of the marina. It's gonna be, uh, inside the 592 00:54:56,091 --> 00:55:02,027 specific slips that are already evidence historically established, right? Yeah, it 593 00:55:02,027 --> 00:55:06,035 doesn't change anything because it's just a boat lift. There's no impervious coverage, 594 00:55:06,085 --> 00:55:11,099 and there's none of that going on, um, it wouldn't impact setbacks or any of that. 595 00:55:12,002 --> 00:55:19,077 So, so what is the Controlling Um narrative. Is 596 00:55:19,077 --> 00:55:24,002 it the permit that you write or what the applicant 597 00:55:26,008 --> 00:55:33,072 Brings in what controls the narrative and are we Um I, I don't know 598 00:55:34,052 --> 00:55:38,071 I'm just trying to figure out if, cause a lot of times we get impervi coverage, it's 599 00:55:38,071 --> 00:55:42,003 not, and that's gonna come up in these other ones. This may be a little different 600 00:55:42,032 --> 00:55:48,076 than what the applicant said, but then you guys do your research. Right, correct. 601 00:55:49,016 --> 00:55:53,088 And then you come up with maybe a different number. Is that the controlling number 602 00:55:53,088 --> 00:56:00,007 of the permit for the for uh impervious coverage we do that uh with our own measurements 603 00:56:00,007 --> 00:56:04,056 and we put it into an Excel spreadsheet to allow it to calculate much more accurately 604 00:56:04,056 --> 00:56:10,088 than um some of the dimensioning that we receive. Sure. So even though the applicant 605 00:56:10,088 --> 00:56:16,009 may provide you with Something that's not exactly accurate or something that you 606 00:56:16,009 --> 00:56:18,038 think is accurate. 607 00:56:20,056 --> 00:56:21,074 The prevailing 608 00:56:24,001 --> 00:56:29,095 Measurement is what you put in there. Tara, thank you for coming. Could you kinda 609 00:56:30,071 --> 00:56:38,000 address that for me, please? Sorry, I just happened to be here. Um, so neither one 610 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:45,008 controls until the permit is finalized and signed, so. Let's just talk about 611 00:56:45,008 --> 00:56:51,081 the 9 by 11 or 11 by 11 issue, um. That 612 00:56:53,018 --> 00:56:57,081 I don't know if that is actually something that's double checked by planning staff 613 00:56:57,081 --> 00:57:04,005 or not, but If the applicant Submitted 614 00:57:06,004 --> 00:57:13,009 A request for 11 by 11. And then it was just simply a typo 615 00:57:14,034 --> 00:57:19,002 that um planning transcribed it as 9 by 11. 616 00:57:21,009 --> 00:57:27,097 That's, that's, it should be considered for 11 by 11 if planning office 617 00:57:28,062 --> 00:57:36,059 decides that. No, they can't have 11 by 11. We can only give them 9 by 11. Then 618 00:57:36,059 --> 00:57:43,004 there needs to be some explanation for that. In writing, yeah, whether it's a staff 619 00:57:43,004 --> 00:57:50,018 report or whatever, but if the applicant asks for Well, it's not there, but if you 620 00:57:50,018 --> 00:57:54,088 say the applicant asked for 11 by 9 and, and had a permit for 11 by 11, that's not 621 00:57:54,088 --> 00:57:59,072 a problem. It's going small, got going asking for bigger. It doesn't have to. It's 622 00:57:59,072 --> 00:58:07,004 gotta be within that size, right? Uh, or is that correct? However, you know, 623 00:58:07,021 --> 00:58:15,004 11/11 could be the standard size, the, the, uh. Planning office 624 00:58:15,004 --> 00:58:23,000 permits or it just could be the biggest size. The problem is gonna be later 625 00:58:23,043 --> 00:58:31,000 because that permit follows the property, right? So if we permit 11 by 11, 626 00:58:31,026 --> 00:58:38,064 they only need 11 by 9 now, and the regs change. To only allow 11 by 9. 627 00:58:41,074 --> 00:58:45,072 they're out of compliance. There could just be, yeah, there could just be a discrepancy 628 00:58:46,007 --> 00:58:51,087 in the future. There's a potential discrepancy. Maybe we should table this until 629 00:58:51,087 --> 00:58:57,017 they figure that out. Is that? If we can't, if we can't figure out and come up with 630 00:58:57,017 --> 00:59:02,033 an adequate explanation for the difference for the record, then we should. OK. Do 631 00:59:02,033 --> 00:59:07,059 you have any explanation for the 11 by 11 or 11 by 9, a simple clerical transaction, 632 00:59:07,078 --> 00:59:11,016 not at this time, OK. All right. 633 00:59:13,069 --> 00:59:21,036 I'm gonna move to table. Uh, consideration lake shore permit FLP 26-88 Lisa 634 00:59:21,036 --> 00:59:27,009 Brewster flathead activity boat lift. I have a motion in a second is for further 635 00:59:27,009 --> 00:59:33,093 discussion. Hearing none, all those in favor. Aye, aye oppose same sign motion carries. 636 00:59:35,041 --> 00:59:41,076 Um Our next item up is consideration of Lakeshore permit 637 00:59:41,076 --> 00:59:49,044 FLP-26-80 JM Real Estate Holdings Flathead Activity. Install canopy and 638 00:59:49,044 --> 00:59:50,062 baffle board white wall. 639 00:59:53,048 --> 01:00:00,043 This is for Lake Lake Shore Construction Permit FLP 2680. For JM 640 01:00:00,076 --> 01:00:08,049 Reals State Holdings LLC, the applicant proposes to construct a 28 ft by 16 ft 641 01:00:08,049 --> 01:00:16,047 canopy over the dock slip and an 18 ft of baffle board wave wall around the southeast 642 01:00:16,047 --> 01:00:24,027 wing of the existing permitted dock, FLP 2589. The additional 448 square 643 01:00:24,027 --> 01:00:30,006 feet. of impervious coverage over the water increases the overall impervious coverage. 644 01:00:31,003 --> 01:00:37,036 Over the water to 928 square feet, which is well within the allowed 645 01:00:37,036 --> 01:00:44,059 2800. 24 square feet for this property. All debris will be removed from and no construction 646 01:00:44,059 --> 01:00:48,091 materials will be stockpiled or stored within the lake shore protection zone. All 647 01:00:48,091 --> 01:00:54,031 work will be done within the LPZ and no equipment will come in contact with the water. 648 01:00:55,077 --> 01:01:00,008 Mr. Chair, I have questions on this. Yeah, go ahead. Again, we've received public 649 01:01:00,008 --> 01:01:07,079 comment where it talks about a discrepancy between what was applied for 650 01:01:07,081 --> 01:01:14,039 and what planning and zoning determined was the actual footage, who takes precedent 651 01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:19,000 there, and will the permit. Randy, can you get closer to your mic? I'm sorry. Thank 652 01:01:19,005 --> 01:01:24,095 you. Could you talk about that a little bit? It's only a 9 ft discrepancy, but it 653 01:01:24,095 --> 01:01:29,003 gets back to what Tara was talking about with if we don't get it right to begin with, 654 01:01:29,016 --> 01:01:35,031 then it could cause problems down the road. We'll take their drawings and plug each 655 01:01:35,031 --> 01:01:41,007 of the dimensions specifically into some Excel's spreadsheet, which then calculates 656 01:01:41,007 --> 01:01:47,088 the total for us. It's more accurate than. By the hand estimations. OK. And then 657 01:01:47,088 --> 01:01:53,012 there's another comment that we received that talks about a narrative describing 658 01:01:53,012 --> 01:01:57,012 environmental impacts as minor disruption of wildlife habitat, but temporary will 659 01:01:57,012 --> 01:02:02,031 increase wildlife habitat once complete. What do we have for documentation that actually 660 01:02:02,031 --> 01:02:08,063 shows that? Is that just the planner's choice in language, or do we have something 661 01:02:08,065 --> 01:02:15,029 from FWP or somebody? Uh, US Fish Wildlife, somebody that says that I had done research 662 01:02:15,029 --> 01:02:19,077 on the baffle boards and placements and how that impacts whether it's a positive 663 01:02:19,077 --> 01:02:24,021 or negative impact on the environment and what I've found through the through that 664 01:02:24,021 --> 01:02:29,009 research, uh, and, and where, what did you use for your research, uh, the various 665 01:02:30,014 --> 01:02:37,082 through FWP as well as other, uh, wildlife, uh, OK, lake shore, uh, websites, 666 01:02:37,094 --> 01:02:43,085 OK. OK, and then is there a requirement when we put baffle boards in, is there a 667 01:02:43,085 --> 01:02:51,077 requirement for um Some type of uh Um, engineering confirmation that says that 668 01:02:51,077 --> 01:02:56,097 this is actually the 3 ft difference. No, no, it's just it's the same as if they 669 01:02:56,097 --> 01:03:02,009 installed a different length of their dock that we would, our, uh, staff would go 670 01:03:02,009 --> 01:03:07,007 out to measure it to make sure. So we'll, we'll make a confirmation before we, uh, 671 01:03:07,005 --> 01:03:13,088 before we release it is, is complete, correct? OK, thank you. Did you cover the 2nd 672 01:03:13,088 --> 01:03:19,067 to permit 18 linear feet of breakwater baffle boards? I don't think we covered that, 673 01:03:20,025 --> 01:03:20,072 no. 674 01:03:22,082 --> 01:03:29,002 about that and condition number 12 of the draft permit. Um, it talks about the applicant 675 01:03:29,002 --> 01:03:35,018 file contains no site evaluation profiles or water depth measurements. Is that that 676 01:03:35,018 --> 01:03:39,086 would be after the fact when we measure to see, make sure that they are clear of 677 01:03:39,086 --> 01:03:43,022 it. It does not increase the impervious coverage, OK. 678 01:03:45,036 --> 01:03:52,002 So Mr. Chair, I would move in, and thank you for providing that additional information. 679 01:03:52,052 --> 01:03:59,063 So Mr. Chair, I would move Lake Shore Permit FOP 2680 JM Real Estate Holdings, flathead 680 01:03:59,063 --> 01:04:05,099 Activity install canopy and baffle board wave wall. I have a motion to second for 681 01:04:05,099 --> 01:04:13,021 further discussion. Hearing none, all those in favor, Mr. Chair, let me back up a 682 01:04:13,021 --> 01:04:18,013 little bit. We haven't done findings yet, and so I'd withdraw my motion. OK. Who 683 01:04:18,013 --> 01:04:23,028 withdraw it until I'll withdraw my second withdraw that. I'm going to the findings 684 01:04:23,028 --> 01:04:27,071 on the finding of fact, the design standards established by Flathead County Lake 685 01:04:27,071 --> 01:04:31,095 and Lakeshore Protection regulations were developed to satisfy all applicable statutory 686 01:04:31,095 --> 01:04:38,002 and policy criteria for the permit issuance. Based on the substantive administrative 687 01:04:38,002 --> 01:04:44,015 review, the project adheres to the standards set forth in Sections 4.3A2A governing 688 01:04:44,044 --> 01:04:52,039 docks, wharfs, and piers. And 4.3CA governing shelters, uh, lifting, uh, floating 689 01:04:52,039 --> 01:04:58,002 lifts and shore stations and is therefore in full compliance with Section 4.1 policy 690 01:04:58,002 --> 01:05:04,046 criteria. Agreed, agreed. Mr. Chair, I, I move the finding as read. 691 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:11,024 Second. I have a motion in a second. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none, 692 01:05:11,029 --> 01:05:16,056 all those in favor? Aye. Aye. Both signed. Motion carries. So Mr. Chair, now back 693 01:05:16,056 --> 01:05:24,012 to, uh, Lake Shore permit for FLP 2680. Um, I move Lake Shore permit FLP 2680 JM 694 01:05:24,012 --> 01:05:29,072 Real Estate Holdings, flathead Activity install canopy and baffle board wave wall. 695 01:05:29,085 --> 01:05:35,023 Mr. Chair. Second, I have a motion a second is there further discussion. Hearing 696 01:05:35,023 --> 01:05:40,096 none, all those in favor. Aye, aye oppose same sign motion carries. Our next item 697 01:05:40,096 --> 01:05:48,034 is consideration of lake shore permit FLP-26-45 for a Philip Hambly beaver 698 01:05:48,034 --> 01:05:51,048 activity. Replace a floating dock. 699 01:05:55,095 --> 01:06:03,014 This is for Lake and Lake Shore construction permit FLP 2645, 700 01:06:03,063 --> 01:06:10,058 owner being Montana DNRC. The applicants propose to replace an existing nonconforming 701 01:06:10,058 --> 01:06:17,098 24 ft by 16 ft floating dock with a 14 ft gangway within the lake and lake shore 702 01:06:17,098 --> 01:06:25,075 protection zone of Beaver Lake. There is currently an existing dock 140 703 01:06:25,075 --> 01:06:28,068 ft by 4 ft gangway. 704 01:06:30,086 --> 01:06:33,025 18 ft by 10 ft shed. 705 01:06:35,061 --> 01:06:43,043 18 ft by 10 ft patio within the LPZ. The proposed floating 706 01:06:43,043 --> 01:06:48,045 dock shall be constructed by composite decking and aluminum framing measuring 24 707 01:06:48,045 --> 01:06:56,016 ft by 16 ft. And Will be anchored with concrete anchors and galvanized chain floats 708 01:06:56,016 --> 01:07:03,013 of our polyvinyl filled with foam. The dock configuration per submitted drawing. 709 01:07:05,043 --> 01:07:11,038 Safety cleats will be installed on the decking surface. The proposed replacement 710 01:07:11,038 --> 01:07:15,089 dock will result in 384 ft of 711 01:07:17,099 --> 01:07:25,007 over the water pervious surface based on the 206 linear feet of shoreline of linear 712 01:07:25,007 --> 01:07:31,002 feet of lake shore frontage. The maximum allow of over the water cover is 713 01:07:31,002 --> 01:07:38,037 1,641 square feet. Pursuant to FCLR 714 01:07:38,064 --> 01:07:46,027 4.2E2A, the proposed impervious coverage of 206 ft of 715 01:07:46,078 --> 01:07:52,025 square feet is within the allowable limits. The DNRC, as landowner, authorizes submission 716 01:07:52,025 --> 01:07:57,077 of this application by email. The dock will be installed by floating it into place 717 01:07:57,077 --> 01:08:05,036 and secured. To existing concrete anchors and galvanized chain. 718 01:08:05,078 --> 01:08:10,007 No pile driving or mechanical excavation of the lake bed is proposed. No materials 719 01:08:10,007 --> 01:08:14,079 or debris will be stored or stockpiled within the LPZ. All construction waste will 720 01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:20,015 be disposed of offsite. No existing vegetation will be removed within the LPZ in 721 01:08:20,015 --> 01:08:26,044 connection with this project. So again, we received some public comment on this one. 722 01:08:27,023 --> 01:08:31,006 did you have an opportunity to go through that? Briefly 723 01:08:36,071 --> 01:08:44,029 They're removing the existing dock, so. That wasn't as pertinent as the dock that 724 01:08:44,029 --> 01:08:46,003 they're proposing to install, right? 725 01:08:48,052 --> 01:08:54,059 So Mr. Chair, I do have a question on that. This is an existing nonconforming because 726 01:08:54,059 --> 01:09:00,075 it was built in 2016. It was nonconforming then. They didn't get a permit. Is that 727 01:09:00,075 --> 01:09:04,093 correct? That is correct, and that's the only verbiage that we have language that 728 01:09:04,093 --> 01:09:09,072 is currently at the time that we could use for that. And so if we didn't get a permit 729 01:09:10,004 --> 01:09:15,014 at the time of If they didn't get a permit at the time of construction, does that 730 01:09:15,016 --> 01:09:22,048 qualify them as nonconforming just because we didn't catch it? It was considered 731 01:09:22,048 --> 01:09:29,063 nonconforming as a result. If we look under MCA 757218 from Bill 732 01:09:29,081 --> 01:09:33,004 168, it talks to those being a 733 01:09:36,086 --> 01:09:40,004 Um, structure name. Sorry. 734 01:09:44,002 --> 01:09:51,064 Not as A nonconforming, legally nonconforming, but as a prescriptive structure because 735 01:09:51,064 --> 01:09:57,068 it's been in existence for more than 3 years. So there is a, there is a limitation, 736 01:09:57,097 --> 01:10:04,054 the statute of limitations, basically 3 years if you, you don't get caught, um. Then 737 01:10:04,064 --> 01:10:10,038 then now it becomes nonconforming, is that the definition? OK. And then they're removing 738 01:10:10,004 --> 01:10:16,011 this. Is the new structure being built? Is it conforming then the new structure will 739 01:10:16,011 --> 01:10:20,039 be conforming, so fully conforming. They're getting rid of the nonconforming, correct? 740 01:10:20,052 --> 01:10:27,097 OK, thank you. There was a question on The brewery's coverage again, could you cover 741 01:10:27,097 --> 01:10:28,032 that? 742 01:10:35,004 --> 01:10:41,007 We took their dimensions and for the existing dock, put it into an Excel spreadsheet 743 01:10:41,007 --> 01:10:45,007 and the calculations that we came out with. So, it says in your third paragraph, 744 01:10:45,008 --> 01:10:51,095 the dock will result in 384 square feet of overwater and perverse surface based on 745 01:10:51,095 --> 01:10:58,006 the 200 ft of linear frontage. But then below that you say the proposed and perverse 746 01:10:58,006 --> 01:11:03,004 coverage of 206 square feet. Is that a typographical error? That's a typographical 747 01:11:03,004 --> 01:11:10,063 error, so that should be 384, 384 and still well within the 1,641. So that's 748 01:11:10,097 --> 01:11:12,067 OK. So that takes care of that. 749 01:11:14,089 --> 01:11:17,026 Randy touched on the width of the dock. 750 01:11:21,009 --> 01:11:21,028 Um 751 01:11:35,055 --> 01:11:40,039 there was some Consistencies in the fee receipts. Can you address that? 752 01:11:46,003 --> 01:11:53,004 In the fees Says minor fee inconsistencies. Fee receipts show the county charged 753 01:11:53,004 --> 01:12:00,065 FLP 2545 after the fact, $628 on April 23, 2026. 754 01:12:01,063 --> 01:12:07,062 Misidentifying the permit year while the current file is processed as FLP 2545 or 755 01:12:07,062 --> 01:12:10,026 26-45. So there's two. 756 01:12:12,038 --> 01:12:19,031 2 different numbers on the fee. From what I see that the receipt total being the 757 01:12:19,031 --> 01:12:27,017 200 or 62831. Minus 1830 for 758 01:12:27,017 --> 01:12:30,093 a total for the 1610 on the receipt. 759 01:12:33,008 --> 01:12:39,047 And if that is, I, that's the furthest I have on that. So they had to get a after 760 01:12:39,047 --> 01:12:47,038 the fact permit in April of 26. On that oversized dock and then 761 01:12:47,038 --> 01:12:52,058 they removed it and put in a dock that was conforming, correct? Is that correct? 762 01:12:54,064 --> 01:12:59,007 They received an after the fact from the existing it being an existing dock that 763 01:12:59,007 --> 01:13:05,031 was not permitted. Yes, so they had to get that all lined up and done right before 764 01:13:05,031 --> 01:13:10,046 they get the permit to put the new dock and that was conforming, I believe so. Yeah, 765 01:13:11,004 --> 01:13:16,059 that's what it seems like to me. So Mr. Chair, question on the few receipts, and 766 01:13:16,059 --> 01:13:20,026 I know we're getting in the weeds on this, but I think it's important that we get 767 01:13:20,052 --> 01:13:25,098 very accurate information. It's FLP 25-45, which you would identify it as something 768 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,091 that had been issued in. 2025, is that correct? 769 01:13:33,063 --> 01:13:40,044 It would have been started, yeah, initially initiated in 25. It may have for whatever 770 01:13:40,044 --> 01:13:48,001 reason carried over into 26. This is so then so it was actually even though it was 771 01:13:48,001 --> 01:13:55,088 FLP 2545, it was actually not issued until 26, is that correct? The updated Application 772 01:13:55,088 --> 01:14:03,033 for the permit that we have for this one was received on April 22nd of 26. OK, 773 01:14:03,052 --> 01:14:11,018 so, so. I'm trying to figure out what the note from Citizens for Better Flathead 774 01:14:11,018 --> 01:14:18,001 who had the public comment. It starts out as FLP 25-45, but we didn't actually get 775 01:14:18,001 --> 01:14:22,082 receipt of it until April 23, 2026. Is that how that worked? 776 01:14:25,017 --> 01:14:32,016 I think if you look at if I look at the folder, it was typed out as a FLP 25 and 777 01:14:32,016 --> 01:14:37,038 hand. Penned over to 26, which could have been a clerical error when they typed it 778 01:14:37,038 --> 01:14:44,005 initially. So it's actually, it's actually in 26, correct, 2645. All right, so the 779 01:14:44,005 --> 01:14:45,007 clerical error there. 780 01:14:47,049 --> 01:14:49,055 OK. OK. 781 01:14:52,043 --> 01:14:56,009 I don't have anything else I guess. I do have a question, Mr. Chair. Does this mean 782 01:14:56,009 --> 01:15:04,000 that we need to To correct through emotion, um, the, the 783 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:10,054 error that we identified a little earlier, um, the 26 or 25, no, not that the, uh, 784 01:15:10,065 --> 01:15:17,081 the other one, Sorry, I'm square footage going back to, yeah, the square footage 785 01:15:17,091 --> 01:15:25,053 from The 206 identifies in the permit to 384. Do we need to change that by motion, 786 01:15:26,031 --> 01:15:33,052 we discussed it. Do we need to make a formal motion if it's 206 is on the actual 787 01:15:33,083 --> 01:15:39,006 draft permit, then yes, you need to make a motion. See what I see says here the proposed 788 01:15:39,006 --> 01:15:44,099 replacement dock will result in 384 square feet of over the water. Impervious surface 789 01:15:44,099 --> 01:15:51,052 based on 206. Linear feet of lake shore frontage. So that's the difference between 790 01:15:52,013 --> 01:15:57,044 one's impervious coverage and one's linear feet. Or is one of those wrong? No, it's 791 01:15:57,044 --> 01:16:02,056 the next sentence. The proposed impervious coverage of, oh, that's the 206 ft is 792 01:16:02,056 --> 01:16:06,055 put in there as a mistake instead of 384. They took linear feet instead of square 793 01:16:06,055 --> 01:16:10,007 feet. I see that. This is the permit, so we probably should make a motion on that. 794 01:16:11,003 --> 01:16:16,076 Yes, Mr. Chair, I move to change what we have as the proposed impervious coverage 795 01:16:17,003 --> 01:16:24,066 of 2,0006 square feet, 206, 206 within the allowable limits, change to 206 to 384 796 01:16:24,066 --> 01:16:29,079 square feet, Mr. Chair. Second, I have a motion in a second. Is there further discussion? 797 01:16:30,049 --> 01:16:35,021 Hearing none. All those in favor. Aye aye. Post same sign motion carries. 798 01:16:38,009 --> 01:16:45,008 And Findings. Yeah, we'll go into our findings. I have one more thing. Excuse me. 799 01:16:46,067 --> 01:16:52,002 On the very first sentence, the applicant proposes to replace an existing nonconforming 800 01:16:52,002 --> 01:16:59,057 24 ft by 16 ft floating dock with a 14 ft gangway. Is that accurate? 801 01:17:00,055 --> 01:17:08,005 Yes, it looks like on the 140 ft gang by 4 ft should be a 14 ft. By 4 ft 802 01:17:08,005 --> 01:17:15,073 gangway, it's an extra it's type O. OK, so, so that should be changed. OK, 803 01:17:15,009 --> 01:17:22,066 so I move. To change that language on the project description for Lake Shore 804 01:17:22,066 --> 01:17:30,012 Permit FLP 26-45 to 14.4 ft gangway. Second 805 01:17:31,009 --> 01:17:37,077 Is that right, or is it 140.4? It's 1414. OK, poor gangway. 806 01:17:39,002 --> 01:17:41,028 The 14 ft by 4 ft gangway. 807 01:17:43,062 --> 01:17:50,025 I have a motion in a second. Is there a further discussion? Just a question. So if 808 01:17:50,025 --> 01:17:55,025 that's not accurate, are the other numbers in there accurate? Yes, it was in the 809 01:17:55,025 --> 01:18:00,008 first line that ends with the floating dock with a 14-foot gangway, and then later 810 01:18:00,008 --> 01:18:05,061 in the same, the next sentence describes it as a 140 ft versus just added a 0 to 811 01:18:05,061 --> 01:18:12,099 the 14, correct. OK. So, the rest on the shed and the patio and all in the LPZ are 812 01:18:12,099 --> 01:18:15,004 correct? Correct. OK. Thank you. 813 01:18:17,058 --> 01:18:25,006 I have a motion. Did I get my motion right? OK. I have a motion a second. 814 01:18:25,073 --> 01:18:31,006 Is there further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor. Aye, aye, oppose same 815 01:18:31,006 --> 01:18:36,074 sign, motion carries. Now we can go into findings of fact. Findings of fact. The 816 01:18:36,074 --> 01:18:40,007 design standards established by Flathead County Lake and Lake Shore Protection regulations 817 01:18:40,007 --> 01:18:46,022 were developed to satisfy all applicable statutory and policy criteria for the permit 818 01:18:46,022 --> 01:18:52,041 issuance based upon a substantive. Administrative review. The project adheres to 819 01:18:52,041 --> 01:18:59,071 the standards set forth in Sections 2.7B governing nonconforming. 4.2A2 governing 820 01:18:59,071 --> 01:19:05,007 docks, wharves, piers, and is therefore in full compliance with Section 4.1 policy 821 01:19:05,007 --> 01:19:11,075 criteria. Agreed, Mr. Chair, I move the findings as read. 2nd, I have a motion is 822 01:19:11,075 --> 01:19:18,085 2nd. Is there? Further discussion. Hearing that all those in favor, I opposed and 823 01:19:18,085 --> 01:19:26,055 signed motion carries. Mr. Chair, I move Lake Shore. Permit for 824 01:19:26,071 --> 01:19:34,057 FLP 2645 Philip Hamley beaver activity. Replace a floating dock. I have a 825 01:19:34,057 --> 01:19:38,072 motion in a second is there further discussion. Hearing none, all those in favor. 826 01:19:39,034 --> 01:19:42,006 I oppose same sign motion carries. 827 01:19:44,011 --> 01:19:45,061 We can go on to 828 01:19:47,074 --> 01:19:55,057 Consideration of lake shore permit, FLP-26-78, Blaine and Robin Evanson on Lake 829 01:19:55,057 --> 01:20:03,025 Blaine activity for retainable. This is for FLP 2676 Blaine and 830 01:20:03,025 --> 01:20:09,045 Robin Evanson. The applicant proposes repairing an existing nonconforming dry stack 831 01:20:09,045 --> 01:20:14,085 natural stone shoreline retaining wall. The repair consists of reset seating and 832 01:20:14,085 --> 01:20:21,001 securing the rotated base core stones back to their original positions within the 833 01:20:21,001 --> 01:20:28,006 existing wall footprint. A displaced toe armoring will be restored. Using natural 834 01:20:28,006 --> 01:20:33,015 angular rip wrap sourced from an upland location outside of the lake shore protection 835 01:20:33,015 --> 01:20:40,031 zone, all rock will be clean and free of silts, sands, and fines. The rip wrap will 836 01:20:40,031 --> 01:20:47,004 be replaced, placed over repaired or replaced filter fabric at a minimum slope of 837 01:20:47,004 --> 01:20:54,027 one horizontal to 2 vertical. Minor concrete work will be performed only where necessary 838 01:20:54,027 --> 01:21:01,077 to stabilize all existing. Existing wall stones in locations where rock alone cannot 839 01:21:01,077 --> 01:21:08,076 provide adequate support. All work will occur entirely within the existing nonconforming 840 01:21:08,092 --> 01:21:15,023 wall footprint at or landward of the mean annual high water elevation following the 841 01:21:15,023 --> 01:21:21,052 established shoreline contour with no lakeward extension of the land area. The repair 842 01:21:21,052 --> 01:21:29,004 length is approximately 15 linear feet and will require an estimated 843 01:21:29,004 --> 01:21:37,002 6 cubic yards of angular rip wrap. Work will be completed using hand tools 844 01:21:37,002 --> 01:21:42,082 and small equipment operating exclusively from upland areas. No equipment will enter 845 01:21:42,082 --> 01:21:47,041 the lake or disturb the lake bed. All repairs will be conducted during seasonal low 846 01:21:47,041 --> 01:21:54,007 water when the work area is dry. This project is not proposing to add or remove impervious 847 01:21:54,007 --> 01:21:59,043 surface area on the property and will remain entirely within the existing retaining 848 01:21:59,043 --> 01:22:04,066 walls footprint consistent with Section 2.76 Flathead County Lake and Lake Shore 849 01:22:04,066 --> 01:22:12,043 Protection regulations, which Allows maintenance, repair and replacement of existing 850 01:22:12,043 --> 01:22:17,008 nonconforming structures provided the work does not expand or alter the established 851 01:22:17,008 --> 01:22:21,075 footprint. All debris will be removed from and no construction materials will be 852 01:22:21,075 --> 01:22:26,006 stockpiled or stored within the lake shore protection zone. All work will be done 853 01:22:26,012 --> 01:22:28,055 within the LPZ and no equipment will contact the lake. 854 01:22:31,098 --> 01:22:37,061 Mr. Chair, I have some questions. Um, do you know what year this was originally built? 855 01:22:37,078 --> 01:22:43,041 The nonconforming, was it within the 3 years or before the 3 years? It was before, 856 01:22:43,057 --> 01:22:50,028 according to the aerial photography. OK. So it would by law it would actually be 857 01:22:50,028 --> 01:22:56,072 existing nonconforming. We had a question about that in public comment that confirming. 858 01:22:57,079 --> 01:23:05,021 The Their their statement was that you can't. You can't call it nonconforming if 859 01:23:05,021 --> 01:23:11,028 it was built. After the standards were put in place, but that's not true if it's 860 01:23:11,028 --> 01:23:17,078 built within or before 3 years ago. It'll be a prescriptive structure. All right, 861 01:23:18,011 --> 01:23:22,063 Tara, does that make sense? Does that sound right? That is correct. OK. 862 01:23:24,076 --> 01:23:31,038 And then on the project it says it's not proposing to add or remove impervious surface 863 01:23:31,038 --> 01:23:38,008 area on the property. Is that correct, that none of this is going to impact impervious 864 01:23:38,008 --> 01:23:42,022 surface? Correct. They're taking existing stones and shoring them up. They're not 865 01:23:42,022 --> 01:23:44,058 adding to it or removing from it. Thank you. 866 01:23:48,017 --> 01:23:56,004 So Kevin on the uh said that Um You had sent a letter and put this 867 01:23:56,042 --> 01:24:02,009 on compliance hold. Can you address that? When we received the says this application 868 01:24:02,009 --> 01:24:08,075 prevents severe severe procedural regulatory complex. Office planning department 869 01:24:08,075 --> 01:24:14,066 records in the file reveal that on August 11, 2026, planner Kevin Sturmer placed 870 01:24:14,066 --> 01:24:21,047 this exact application on a formal compliance hold due to multiple uncorrected lake 871 01:24:21,047 --> 01:24:26,055 shore violations on the property, and then they list four of them. Are you familiar 872 01:24:26,055 --> 01:24:29,045 with those? And were those addressed? 873 01:24:36,017 --> 01:24:37,047 I'm not familiar with those. 874 01:24:41,053 --> 01:24:46,099 OK, so we don't know if those were Or if, uh, uh, you know, who knows, I don't know. 875 01:24:47,027 --> 01:24:53,076 Are they even pertinent to this file? Uh, we're not, yeah. I don't think it's pertinent 876 01:24:53,076 --> 01:25:00,005 to this specific application to stop the wall from falling over. 877 01:25:02,098 --> 01:25:03,057 OK. 878 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:06,016 Um 879 01:25:11,026 --> 01:25:18,081 They also talk about uh the applicant is Scott Evenson. He's not the property owner. 880 01:25:19,002 --> 01:25:22,055 Listed owners are Blaine and Robin Evenson. Can you address that? 881 01:25:40,054 --> 01:25:47,059 The applicant is is the one who's gonna be doing the work. I do not know the relation 882 01:25:47,059 --> 01:25:55,011 between them, but the, the application was signed off by uh Blaine Evanson. OK, so 883 01:25:55,011 --> 01:25:59,052 Scott's in the paperwork, but Blaine signed it, correct. OK. 884 01:26:05,055 --> 01:26:06,002 OK. 885 01:26:10,055 --> 01:26:15,068 So I don't know. About the compliance hold. 886 01:26:17,099 --> 01:26:25,009 Um If we have outstanding violations. Would that affect this permit that we're 887 01:26:25,009 --> 01:26:32,059 doing today? I believe that the I believe I cannot attest that they are, 888 01:26:32,089 --> 01:26:38,055 are, but I believe that they were in compliance, or the file would have stayed over 889 01:26:38,055 --> 01:26:44,032 in the compliance area. And not have been brought back to my desk for completion. 890 01:26:44,053 --> 01:26:48,002 So you're not sure, but it wouldn't have come forward unless someone checked on those, 891 01:26:48,041 --> 01:26:48,069 correct? 892 01:26:50,072 --> 01:26:58,036 But we don't know What, what do you think, Tara? I don't. If there's nothing in the 893 01:26:58,036 --> 01:27:06,015 file to explain. Why it came off a compliance hold or if it even did. 894 01:27:07,011 --> 01:27:13,038 Then it needs to be tabled until we can find out those answers, OK. So we need to 895 01:27:13,038 --> 01:27:19,007 look into that probably. So Mr. Chair, I'd move to Table Lakeshore permit FLP 2678 896 01:27:19,007 --> 01:27:26,063 Blaine and Robin Evanson. Um, blame activity retaining wall. Second, 897 01:27:27,001 --> 01:27:31,097 I have a motion to seconded to further discussion. I, I do have a question, Kevin. 898 01:27:32,016 --> 01:27:37,017 How long ago did, uh, did this packet get finished being put together? 899 01:27:39,055 --> 01:27:44,072 Did, uh, in other words, how long ago was it? Was it complete and ready to come over 900 01:27:44,074 --> 01:27:45,077 to our office. 901 01:27:52,039 --> 01:27:54,017 I believe it was on the 902 01:27:56,055 --> 01:27:57,083 9:14. 903 01:28:00,001 --> 01:28:06,009 So the 14th, when did it get, when was it on your website then? I, I don't know. 904 01:28:06,017 --> 01:28:12,005 I don't put the, that's not the section that I handle, OK. OK. And then, Ruby, how, 905 01:28:12,067 --> 01:28:19,094 how does that work? Um, they get it done on September 14th. Today is the 8th. Um, 906 01:28:20,015 --> 01:28:27,009 how long till it becomes public information? Um, we have to have it up. Hold on, 907 01:28:27,035 --> 01:28:29,072 Ruby, grab your ass here. 908 01:28:32,019 --> 01:28:39,058 We have to have it up 48 hours in advance, but it goes on much sooner than that. 909 01:28:39,087 --> 01:28:44,005 It gets listed and the files get put up there with it, so it really depends on how 910 01:28:44,005 --> 01:28:51,026 much time it gives, but at least a week, but usually much longer. Randy, what are 911 01:28:51,026 --> 01:28:56,009 you specifically looking for? What I'm looking for is several of these permits that 912 01:28:56,009 --> 01:29:04,008 come across. The public comment has listed concerns that they didn't have the information 913 01:29:04,008 --> 01:29:09,051 available in time to get to do the research on it because we got their letters this 914 01:29:09,053 --> 01:29:16,009 morning, which doesn't give us time to research whether they're correct or not. Um, 915 01:29:16,022 --> 01:29:23,075 I'm We're gonna see if we can find when it was submitted to. The commissioner's office 916 01:29:24,058 --> 01:29:28,005 And would that have been the first time that it was posted to the public? I don't 917 01:29:28,005 --> 01:29:31,025 know. That would be a question probably for April. OK. 918 01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:39,003 Um, I know all of that was posted last week when I sent it to you guys. OK. 919 01:29:41,025 --> 01:29:49,005 Last name And So the files themselves are in the office and available to the public 920 01:29:49,038 --> 01:29:56,009 at any time, and your files, normally, how long do you have that file complete before 921 01:29:56,009 --> 01:29:57,053 it gets to the commissioners? 922 01:29:59,097 --> 01:30:05,038 Usually, usually I'll get it complete and hand it over to the front office for them 923 01:30:05,038 --> 01:30:09,004 to process it and get it over to you and that usually happens within a day or two. 924 01:30:09,075 --> 01:30:15,081 But it's days in advance that your office actually has the paperwork in the office 925 01:30:16,051 --> 01:30:22,028 ready for anyone to look at. Days before it ever gets to our agenda, it's usually 926 01:30:22,028 --> 01:30:26,001 a week before we have usually a week, a week before there will be people who come 927 01:30:26,001 --> 01:30:31,002 in to look at specific files, but the files are there and even before they're completed, 928 01:30:31,061 --> 01:30:36,086 um, I've had people come in to look at their specific files to make sure their information 929 01:30:37,002 --> 01:30:43,012 and our agenda is usually posted weeks ahead of time. Um, usually a week, week and 930 01:30:43,012 --> 01:30:48,052 a half, week and a half, so about a week in there that all of this happens. It may 931 01:30:48,052 --> 01:30:54,088 not necessarily put all the documents into AV capture, but they are available over 932 01:30:54,088 --> 01:30:59,064 at the planning office. Is that correct? Correct. OK. And just to confirm, and this 933 01:30:59,064 --> 01:31:05,042 may be for Tara, uh, putting it on Navy capture is not required by law. Is that correct? 934 01:31:06,001 --> 01:31:13,065 Correct. And it's actually not required the um. That you post that 935 01:31:13,065 --> 01:31:21,056 stuff anywhere, it's becoming more and more generally accepted. Um And I know there 936 01:31:21,056 --> 01:31:27,047 are a few times things may come over to the commissioner's office, and we don't necessarily 937 01:31:27,047 --> 01:31:28,006 want 938 01:31:30,069 --> 01:31:36,029 You know, want the person who submitted it to the commissioner's office to post it 939 01:31:36,085 --> 01:31:44,084 somewhere online. Um, but with Things from the planning and zoning office like these, 940 01:31:45,026 --> 01:31:52,005 I think it's fairly certain cause there's You know, even if Planning says, 941 01:31:52,079 --> 01:31:59,032 oh, the applicant contacted me or we've got to change something. Or whatever, then 942 01:32:00,063 --> 01:32:08,029 I mean, it's still a public document, right, right. So at the planning office. It 943 01:32:08,029 --> 01:32:13,057 looks like this came over to the commissioner's office probably around the 23rd of 944 01:32:13,057 --> 01:32:21,049 September. Yeah, OK, so, so we did what was required by law, by, um, by having it 945 01:32:21,049 --> 01:32:26,025 available, planning and zoning it so that if people saw it posted. Even if we didn't 946 01:32:26,027 --> 01:32:30,054 have the document on AV capture, it was posted so that anybody that wanted to look 947 01:32:30,054 --> 01:32:33,078 at it could go to planning and zoning and look at the document. Is that correct? 948 01:32:34,003 --> 01:32:40,054 Yes, but I will tell you that um administrative staff over planning and zoning is 949 01:32:40,054 --> 01:32:48,009 being overwhelmed by records requests, and they're getting fulfilled, but last 950 01:32:48,009 --> 01:32:55,029 I talked to April, they're not guaranteeing anything in under 2 weeks. But people 951 01:32:55,029 --> 01:33:01,035 certainly can stay there in the office and look through the, you know, actually original 952 01:33:01,039 --> 01:33:08,085 copy of the file themselves, um, but they're not guaranteed a copy. So we do, so 953 01:33:08,085 --> 01:33:14,053 just because we get a, a document saying that you didn't provide what was legally 954 01:33:14,053 --> 01:33:18,061 required, um, isn't necessarily true, correct? OK, thank you. 955 01:33:21,035 --> 01:33:28,081 OK. OK. And we have tabled that, right? We voted on that. I think we voted. Did you 956 01:33:28,081 --> 01:33:30,072 vote? Let's just check before. 957 01:33:34,038 --> 01:33:38,049 You don't have a vote yet. Oh, we don't have a vote. OK. Is there further discussion? 958 01:33:39,069 --> 01:33:46,002 Hearing none, all those in favor, aye, aye oppose saying sign motion carries it's 959 01:33:46,002 --> 01:33:52,033 tabled, and we are adjourned. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I didn't think we'd 960 01:33:52,005 --> 01:33:54,066 think. I am never coming over here.