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this meeting is being recorded all right
it's all yours mayor

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all right thank you um so folks uh
this is the january 3rd uh village board

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of trustees meeting for the village of
flower hill thank you for joining

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apologies for uh those who are stuck in
the waiting room we're having some

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technical difficulties
uh we now have everybody out of the

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waiting room and we will start the
meeting

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i'm going to start with the pledge of
allegiance i'll just lead the pledge

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i pledge allegiance to the flag of the
united states of america

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and to the republic for which it stands
one nation under god in the liberty and

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justice for all

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all right
um

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so today's meeting is going to start
with

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uh public hearings uh the first one is
for a lot line adjustment hearing from

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50 uh for 50 and 60 walnut
um this is a carryover of a hearing from

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the last meeting

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so
let's start there

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before we get started
i know

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we have who do we have from the
applicant here

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so we have the applicant and i think we
have your attorney as well john farrell

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yes
okay

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and now um
jeff we had discussed i think prior to

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this uh just before this meeting
um jeff blinkoff our village attorney

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we had some new information from you
today john i think it was submitted uh

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this morning
um and we also received some additional

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commentary from the public just before
this meeting mayor don't you need to

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make a motion to open the public hearing
thank you randall uh make a motion to

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open the public hearing and then we'll
revisit my comments i'll second it

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all in favor
all right

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all right

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so john i think um based off the fact
that we've just gotten some additional

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information um
and uh from both you and the public uh i

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think we'd like to start off with uh
getting your consent to carry this

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hearing over till the next month uh so
the board can review that information

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and uh i guess address any questions we
can after the meeting

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is that possible

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um i i didn't have this kind of took me
by surprise i didn't have a chance to

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consult with my client well just just to
be clear mr phil they're not

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i don't think the mayor is saying that
they're not going to let people be heard

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tonight uh just that they'll then want
people to be able to review everything

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that's been submitted
correct okay okay

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yeah that i mean that's acceptable
yeah john we'd like i guess you uh on

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behalf of the applicant to walk us
through the information you submitted

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we'll ask any questions uh how we're
just getting this today i think we'd

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like a chance to look it over
sure i understand

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okay so then i'll hand it over to you uh
for okay representation

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sure um for the applicant my name is
john farrow i'm with the firm son ward

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braf and koblins our offices are at 333
hovington boulevard street 601 uniondale

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new york
um on the line tonight are my client dan

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bombach um the architect on the project
trisha o'neil she designed the house

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that's currently under construction
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you know as you said we we submitted
some additional information but before i

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walk you through that i'd like to
you know open the floor to my client to

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give um his point of view on
why they entered into contract to buy

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the adjoining property and what they
they seek to achieve by doing so

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so at this point i just asked dan to
unmute himself and and walk and walk you

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guys through that

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sure so hello and thank you for the
opportunity to speak before the board

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my name is dan baumbach and my family
has lived in manhasset for almost 10

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years my wife and i have been active
community community members since that

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time whether through volunteering our
time on the munzee park tree committee

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various school committees a non-profit
board community groups as a cub scout

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den leader or as a coach we love our
community and are looking forward to

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moving to our new home being built in
flower hill as a reminder the home we

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are currently building at 60 walnut was
already approved by the architectural

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review committee and the board of
trustees earlier in 2021 and meets

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village code we did not need nor do we
ever seek a variance for this build as

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it conforms with village code
when the owner of 51 elaine informed us

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of their decision to move we were
disappointed to lose such nice and

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welcoming neighbors the seller mentioned
that their ranch would most likely be

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bought by a builder to be replaced with
a new home

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as they discussed selling their home to
a builder we were also approached to see

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if we had any interest in their property
when my wife and i thought about the new

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home that could be built at their
address we calculated that a new code

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conforming house could be placed 13 feet
closer to our home and still meet the

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minimum size setback
as we thought about how to prevent this

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section of walnut lane from becoming
denser we realized that if we owned both

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properties we could request a lot line
shift in order to increase the green

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space between both homes
further our young family would benefit

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from having the additional grass to play
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knowing that this is a once in a
lifetime opportunity we made an offer to

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the seller and are currently in contract
to purchase 50 walnut

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as incoming residents of the village we
care deeply about our new neighbors the

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character of the village and the high
standards put in place by the village

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code the architectural review committee
and the board of trustees deciding on

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how many feet to move the property line
took a considerable amount of time

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we chose 21 feet based on researching
village code and at the separate

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meetings with our architect attorney and
a village inspector we could have

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requested to move the property line 34
feet which would still leave behind a

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conforming lot that would be larger than
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of the lots on walnut lane
however we decided on 21 feet as this

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would leave behind a lot that is
114.64 feet resulting in a lot that is

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larger than approximately half of the
remaining lots on walnut

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this lot would allow a new
code-conforming home to be built similar

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in size to our home without the need for
a variance

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the purpose of our application is to
request a 21 foot lot line shift we

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understand that any subsequent build at
50 walnut lane is a separate matter that

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would be subject to the village's code
and review by the architectural review

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committee
we'd like to thank the many neighbors on

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walnut lane and in flower hill who have
offered their support to this

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application these letters of support
were provided to the village earlier

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again our intention with this
application is to ensure there is

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additional green space between our home
and a new home built at 50 walnut

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as the owner of 60 walnut and contract
vendi for 50 we respectfully request

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approval of our application to ship the
lot line 21 feet resulting in two lots

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each of which exceeds minimum code thank
you for your consideration

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thank you mr brownback

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so i think that
go ahead

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as you say i think that about sums up
the the reason um and the thought

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process that went into it this wasn't
something my client is doing

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you know off the cuff he did he took a
lot of time to think about this and and

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really
you know mapped this whole process out

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before he he started on this endeavor
if you recall at the last hearing the

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board had asked us to prepare like a tax
map exhibit showing the lots on walnut

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lane um we did prepare that exhibit and
i provided it to the uh

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to the village clerk
and i i don't i don't know if i i don't

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think i have the ability to screen share
i don't know if she can screen share it

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i know she's on the line i see her down
there um

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but you know just to walk you through it
since the board members have it in front

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of them
what i did was i highlighted the lots

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that are the subject of this application
they're highlighted in red

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so and i highlighted them in their
current configuration not post

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not post lot line adjustment because
this is based on the existing conditions

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so if you look at the properties that
are highlighted in yellow

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there's the uh
there's the exhibit properties that are

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highlighted in yellow all have lot
frontage on walnut lane that is less

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than
114.64 feet in width

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so
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it's
out of the there are 31 lots excluding

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the two lots that are the subject of
this application

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and 14 of them have less than
114.64 feet of lot width

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there are two additional lots
that have uh addresses on crabapple lane

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and boulder road
both of those lots also have frontage of

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less than 100 feet on walnut so i
highlighted those just to show you that

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you know
this this area this this particular

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street
is very uh it's not cookie cutter every

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lot is is is a little bit different
there

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many different widths
uh but at the end of the day

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this lot the the smaller of the two
locks which would be 114.64

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feet would be
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if you don't count the two locks on one
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close to 50
of the lots would be smaller than the

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lot we're proposing the smaller lot
if you include those it's more than 50

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percent it would be 17 out of 33 lots
would be less than would be smaller than

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the lot that we would be leaving behind
on the other side

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the
lot that we would be

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creating at at 60 walnut lane would be
156.64 feet in in width along walnut

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lane
i've highlighted the properties in blue

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on on walnut lane that have more
frontage than 150 feet

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so if you look at
the letter that i submitted i created a

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a chart
that shows

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um
it shows you the register a lot with

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from hold on
i'd ask anybody that's not

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all right john try it again now
okay

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um so i highlighted the properties that
are highlighted in blue on this map are

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or lots that have
150 feet or more a lot with a long

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walnut lane
and the lot at five walnut which is uh

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the corner of boulder and walnut lane is
175 feet in width

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the lot at
uh 120

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for our i'm sorry
uh

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a lot 124 walnut lane
which is the property at the corner of

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uh
dogwood and walnut

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that lot is also
approximately 175 feet in width

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and then there are larger
similar lot sizes

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at uh 15 walnut and
i'm sorry just give me one second

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15 walnut is approximately 150 feet
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156.16 feet
so even

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even after we create the subdivision
these lots will be

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similar in size to other parcels there
aren't they won't stand out for their

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for their largeness or their smallness
uh once the lot line adjustment is

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is granted
another issue that was raised at the at

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the hearing was the possibility of
building a bigger home on walmart

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a bigger home at my clients property at
60 walmart

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so with the additional square footage we
calculated that my client could

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theoretically add another 1500 plus
square feet

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to that house
based on the lot size for gfa and still

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be conforming
so that would bring the house to about 6

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500 square feet
my client has no desire to do that

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the house is under construction it's a
brand new home there's no reason to add

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uh an additional 1500 square feet
but even if they did add that 1500

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square feet it would still be
approximately

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2 000 square feet smaller
than the home at 20 walnut lane which is

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almost 8 500 square feet
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you know you have to take it all in
context the code is there for a reason

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and
what we're leaving behind are not

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substantial substandard lots we're
talking about we're not increasing

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density we're not increasing traffic
we're talking about two new homes on the

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street which are only going to increase
property values in the community

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and i think there's going to be a
benefit once this is once this is

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granted
so and this the lot line adjustment also

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achieves my clients goal
of you know creating more separation

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between him and the adjoining property
uh to the to the west

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we should i should also note that my
client submitted some letters of support

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from neighbors along walnut i believe
there are nine letters from neighbors on

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walnut that are in favor of this
application

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including the two that are most affected
that those are the property owners on

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either side of this subdivision at 40
and 70 walnut lane they're all in favor

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of it and the property owner across the
street at 65 walnut lane is also in

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favor of the application so the three
people that would be most impacted by

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the subdivision
are all in favor of this application

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um you know i think that's that's
important i think if the neighbors on

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the street don't have an issue with it
and it's not going to deter from the

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character of the community and it's
with the code i don't really see

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a reason why this application should be
denied

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so with that i'll open the i'll ask the
board if they have any questions

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uh thank you mr farrell
uh so i'll open it up to the board for

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questions to the applicant

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um i guess while everybody's coming off
me mr farrell uh do you know what the

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if the lot line change is approved what
would the square footage be for the home

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on 50 walnut what would be the max there
um i can i have to look at it um

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i have been i just got a text from my
client

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uh it was 13 letters from people on
walnut that are in favor of the

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application
so

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um just so you know those were emailed
over i think this afternoon so we we

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have those our possession now yeah with
them to the record um

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hi mr phil this is frank janiece uh
trusty can you zoom in on this uh

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particularly at the red uh the red
highlighted watts oh that would have

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ronnie would have to take care of that
she's controlling the uh

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it's made from i'm getting there
randolph randall because something's

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wrong with something's wrong with the
scale

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the the
50 looks bigger than 60.

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the uh that's the way the county the
county's tax maps are not all the same

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scale
so i tried my best to

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to map this out so if you look at the
the lower right section um between

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dogwood and uh
and crab apple

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that those lots look significantly
bigger but they're not it's just the

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it's just the way the county scales the
tax map it's not there's no consistency

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to it right because this graphic then
really doesn't doesn't help us because

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it's not
to the proper scale so it looks like the

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the smaller lot like 50 is now bigger
than lot 60.

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well i think you can should be the other
way around and and that lot 50 i was

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there today will be significantly
smaller than the way it's depicted in

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that image
well in this image again i didn't crea i

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didn't make this the size that it would
be because we were i didn't make this

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i split them the way they are currently
configured i did not split them the way

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they will be after the lot line
adjustment is made this was really to

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the point of this map was to illustrate
that there are other lots in the area

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that are comparably sized now
you know the one thing i would point out

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is
you can look at this map it's a little

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blurry online because it's been scanned
and and

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you know it's you know obviously the you
lose a little bit of resolution when

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it's a screen share
but if you look at the numbers on the

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lots the each lot you can see the lot
with the the numbers represent the width

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of the lot so if you if you look at the
the actual image on that you can see the

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lot widths are what i'm portraying them
to be

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um what i've said they are in my letter
uh in support of the application

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um if i look
on that front john just so i because i

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know there's people online uh trying to
look at the screen probably right now um

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as well as we have some people on the
phone so

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uh this information is at village hall
people can review it um frank i'd let

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you know it's i think it's in your email
too because i think it was emailed to

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all of us it's a little easier to see uh
when it's not in this powerpoint format

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it's getting pixelated on our screen so
you know again this is one of the

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reasons i think i want to give people a
chance to uh to to view this after the

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meeting

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um i have a question for peter um with
respect to what a statement that was

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made by mr farrell um
i i think you you stated

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that the maximum you could do with the
revised lot size would be something like

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7 500 square feet
did i hear that right

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hundred sixty five hundred sixty four
ninety seven okay so right um but are

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isn't there um an upper limit on

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i think that factors in the upper limit
that was the number oh

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what what lot size are we talking about
what are we proposing on the larger lot

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if what would be the largest house we
could build

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what's the maximum size you can build
out to

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what's the square footage of the
proposed lot

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it's 23 000
um 23 000 and change

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i'll give you great so
gary i think i know where you're going

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so let me let me ask this a different
way and see if that's what you're asking

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so peter is there a maximum
to that someone can build to in r4

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zoning sounds like you're saying it
depends on the square footage of the lot

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and so if someone put 10 lots together
the maximum will be determined by the

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square footage of those 10 lots
versus one smaller lot well we also have

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break points where above a certain uh
a certain square footage you can't do

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more so now if you're over 22 000 square
feet you're just governed

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by the the far so this is an r4 if you
can give me that i could do the math if

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you can give me that lot size again
23 496.

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and our far is 0.28
for an r4 current correct

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so that's
6578 square feet

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so we're not you're above the 22 000 the
next cap is is is an acre so

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uh only the far would apply on this not
the not our breakpoint cap points

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okay
regardless i i think the the point is

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that it would still be smaller than the
lot that uh the house that's at lot 20.

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i i just wanted to be sure we had
accurate information that's all of

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course of course uh by those
calculations i believe

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on the other on the other lot after the
lot line adjustment we can they could

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build a house that's around a little
over 4 000 square feet

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that's for 50 walnut you're 450 walnut
right after the lot line adjustment that

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would be what you could build on 50
walmart

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and peter any idea of the square footage
on the home on 40 walnut the one that

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was just constructed

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if you don't have that handy we can i
don't have that with me

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okay thank you

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i mean i can answer that if
it's okay

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sure go ahead i mean i believe it's 5056
same as what we're building a 60 walnut

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right around that that number that 5050.

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all right thank you that would that
would have met the cap at uh less than

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22 if it's less than 22 000 then you go
to a cap of

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uh 5060.

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all right other questions from the board

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i guess the only other question i have
is you referenced active space

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um i know we have encouraged people uh
and promoted some some green scaping and

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and uh use of patios and porches so
peter is there any limitations on

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i guess pool or patio space on uh on 60
that would be impacted by this

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well
you know we have we have percentages of

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lot coverage um we have percentages at
maximum for uh pools in the back um

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you know far also includes any accessory
structures so

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if the lot size increases you could you
know you could you could increase up up

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to those those numbers as a percentage
of the growth slot area

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so is 60 walnut currently at its maximum
uh i guess lot coverage percentage

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i i don't know that information i i
don't i don't believe so

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but but i don't have the file in front
of me

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uh i'll i'll open that up to the
applicants then dude are you aware of if

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you're current
uh

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the architect would know that that would
be on the zoning submission

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i
i believe that i don't think the house

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is is at the limit i think it's less
than 5 000 if i'm not mistaken i thought

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i want to say it was like
i don't know i can't remember but

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i all right do you know

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patricia o'neill is our architect i
don't know if she's hi i'm i'm just

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pulling that up i want to be accurate
thank you

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so the maximum lot coverage is 25
percent

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because i think i just while we're
waiting you know that was another

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concern that was raised was
the amount of outdoor space as well so

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um obviously
if you're not at your maximum or you are

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that could alleviate or address some
concerns

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or raise concerns

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the the the bambach's house the the
house that's being built um

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that's that's currently under
construction the floor area of that

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house they're allowed 5060 square foot
max floor area and the house being built

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is
5056 square feet

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pat do you have the lot coverage
the lot coverage um

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we're allowed 25 percent
um and we are at 19

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lot coverage for their house that's
under construction right now

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okay
so even without uh this lot line

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approval you the the applicant has
six percent more uh space to use

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on that property
correct and and that you know just to um

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you know that that lot coverage that 19
um that includes

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um you know the house of course the
garage

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the mudroom porch the rear porch the
pool the outdoor kitchen space and um we

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have sort of a a a a walk going to the
mudroom so you know that includes

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you know all the improvements on the
property

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um i i just want to i just want to add
um when

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when we were designing the house you
know when i was designing the house with

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the bound backs
um you know we we did you know consider

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making the the covered porch larger and
you know we certainly we we can do that

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we have um a lot of coverage available
um but you know they they felt strongly

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that they they didn't want to
um you know encroach on the backyard and

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they really wanted to try to preserve as
much green space

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um
and uh you know as possible again for

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um
you know just

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they they really um
you know having outdoor space and and

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you know just quote open space so you
know we did

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um pull that covered porch um and the
patio you know we did we did pull them

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sort of you know way back
um

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again just to um preserve green space on
the property

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all right thank you very much um any
other questions from the board

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um i have a quick question and maybe for
a follow-up um

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i would be curious to know what
information the

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residents i think it was 13 the 13
residents um

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that signed this um letter of support
were given were they shown this map

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which is not to scale
were they shown the shading

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where the larger properties are all
corner properties i would just like to

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know the level of detail that
the residents that were signed

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or was it just a generalization of what
the average size was that we originally

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had before we got new information so i i
would be curious

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sure so i could take that so my wife and
i went around to the neighbors on our

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street the new street and
for the most part the majority of them

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had a lot of questions they
were very curious about the lot sizes on

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the street itself and
i would say the overwhelming feedback we

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received was they were
looking forward to having more green

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space and they were very supportive of
that we did tell them that the resulting

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lot would go from
135 and change feet wide to about 114

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feet wide and change and they asked what
type of house could be built there what

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size so we answered that question and um
i also mentioned that the lot would be

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bigger than about half the lots on
walnut lane and

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it was
we had great support so that those were

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the questions i didn't have the lot map
with me to show

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um each resident but they received the
certified uh letter with the information

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um and
you know no one asked me specifically

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like what is the size of this address or
what is the size of that address they

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were just
um happy to get more green space

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thank you

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all right any other questions from the
board

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all right um seeing none i guess we'll
turn it over to the public for public

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comment at this point

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i i'd say we just please for everybody
participating

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um
comments uh should be

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limited to
uh the application for the lot line

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adjustment on 50 and 60 walnut lane um
randall do they just come off mute they

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can just come off of you and for the
record please give your name and address

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yes we need everyone's name and address
for the stenographer if you're

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commenting

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any additional comments i'll give
everybody one more minute here to come

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off mute

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all right
um

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and if for uh some reason anybody has a
follow-up comment after they can email

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us uh
at village hall um

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the
uh one email that we got um this

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afternoon
we'll submit that to

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the um
stenographer for the record

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jeff do we need to read that into the
record or ronnie are you there

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00:30:26,159 --> 00:30:31,440
or can we just give it all right
it doesn't need to be read into the

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record but um
i don't know if mr farrell received a

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copy so maybe we can make arrangements
to share that with the applicant in

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between as well
and i would just ask that it be made a

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part of the record by reference
uh let's do that it looks like it was

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signed
email has 23 people on it and um

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uh the letter is signed by two four six
eight ten people so uh we'll provide

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that to you uh mr farrell and mr bomback
um and uh if there's no further

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00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:11,279
questions or comments from the board
we will uh adjourn this hearing and

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carry it over till next month
so i'd ask if there's a motion to

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adjourn and carry it over to the next

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month i'll make that motion gary
lewandowski

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is there a second

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i'll second it it's the mayor
and if i could um ask for

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the trustee collins your vote
uh uh aye sorry trustee dorfman

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aye
trustee janice

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00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:44,840
hi
trustee lewandowski

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00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:49,760
hi
um i forgot someone trustee

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00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:56,080
hi
thank you um

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deputy mayor hi
mayor

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hi
um and the motion carries and just to

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confirm uh i'm asking the applicant's
counsel and this is with your consent

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sir
yes

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thank you

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00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:15,039
thank you appreciate everybody's
patience here um

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so that will
complete the hearing for the lot line

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adjustment we'll move now to the
hearing on the public laws

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so everyone is welcome to
stay and listen in

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00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:32,000
but uh if it's
time for you to go you can go uh all

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right so
do we need to yeah we need to motion in

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to the public hearing for these laws or
can we just continue on

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i believe we
yes i think you had opened it for the

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public hearing portion ronnie are you
back on the call i am i'm here oh good

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00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,399
you take over i'm done being village
administrator

436
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:56,480
oh okay and i thought jeff was doing
such a good job too

437
00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:01,519
hey it's teamwork here it makes the
dream work

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00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:07,600
okay so uh next on next on the agenda uh
for public hearings is proposed local

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law f of 2021 um fee for cancellation of
an inspection appointment um and that is

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for a cancellation without
any notice

441
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this was introduced at last month's
meeting

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um there was some discussion among the
board

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00:33:21,919 --> 00:33:28,559
uh you've all received the the
local law in your packets there have

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been no changes um i'll leave it to the
board for any further discussion

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all right anybody from the board have a
comment or question otherwise i'll open

446
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:39,840
it up to the public for comment

447
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:47,519
all right seeing none uh let's open it
up to the public

448
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:52,720
say the same thing as i said before if
you're on the call for this

449
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:59,039
i'd ask that you uh just unmute yourself
give your name an address and

450
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,039
uh make a comment

451
00:34:03,679 --> 00:34:07,840
give everybody another second here

452
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:16,240
one last time any comments questions
from the public

453
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,240
all right uh seeing none

454
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,240
uh any comments or questions from the
board

455
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:24,720
seems pretty straight forward to me
we've talked about it a bunch

456
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:27,440
um i'd say i think
um will you keep it open for one more

457
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:31,359
meeting
see if there's any further public

458
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:35,599
comment or questions and if not
look to potentially adopt this next

459
00:34:32,879 --> 00:34:39,440
month
sound good

460
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:44,440
i think we can move on to the next
public hearing again this is also the

461
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:50,800
second hearing proposed local law g of
2021 regarding rental demonstration

462
00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:55,760
again there have been you have been
notified of some

463
00:34:53,280 --> 00:35:00,480
minor changes in the law it was on the
trustees desks well in advance of the

464
00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:06,160
statutory requirement it's also been
posted on our website well in advance of

465
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:10,320
the statutory requirement um
that being said i will uh turn it over

466
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:14,240
to the board
okay

467
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,599
one thing that uh that is not included
in this language that i do want to

468
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:21,280
update based off
conversations with ronnie and jeff

469
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,560
previously
as part of our food establishment

470
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:29,680
license we talked about adding a
requirement that they submit an annual

471
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:34,400
extermination inspection
that was one of the other issues so i'd

472
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:40,320
like to have that added in as well
ensuring that those businesses don't uh

473
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:45,920
contribute to any sort of public health
issues based off the issues that came up

474
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:48,960
this year um
so uh

475
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:53,920
with that i guess i'll just turn over to
the board for any questions or comments

476
00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:56,880
and uh or actually first jeff do you
want to just highlight what the updates

477
00:35:55,599 --> 00:36:01,280
were because you talked about in the
last meeting just refresh everyone's

478
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,280
memory

479
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:07,200
um
in terms of what what this um

480
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:10,000
local law would
control yeah yeah i think what it would

481
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,680
do
some updates around the um the

482
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:18,880
short-term rent
sure so essentially um

483
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:26,520
the the key provision that deals with
the time frame uh i think is section one

484
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,520
seventy

485
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:39,599
13 which talks about short-term rentals
and essentially what this breaks down to

486
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:44,320
is to say that
if a person is going if an owner

487
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:49,520
is going to rent out a property they can
do so

488
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:53,440
for 90 days or more
really without

489
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:57,200
requiring going before the board of
trustees or seeking any particular

490
00:36:55,119 --> 00:37:01,119
permission the only time that somebody
needs to come before the board of

491
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:05,200
trustees or seek any kind of exemption
is if the following happens suppose

492
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:10,480
somebody is going to
attempt to rent out the property for

493
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:13,599
more than two 90-day periods within a
one-year period

494
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:18,800
then that person would need to seek an
exemption from the board

495
00:37:15,359 --> 00:37:22,480
uh the second would be if if a person is
desirous of renting out a property for

496
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:28,000
less
than 90 days um and

497
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:31,599
the intent of this from from the
reading of the code would be that what

498
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:37,359
the board is hoping to
stave off would be continuous

499
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:40,400
and regular short-term rentals um
i know that there was some discussion on

500
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,839
the last date
about

501
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:48,720
what's mentioned in the code that if
someone were to come before the board

502
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:51,119
what they could ask for in terms of an
exemption of what i just mentioned would

503
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,960
be
uh based upon if they could show that

504
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:58,960
there was a severe and substantial
financial hardship

505
00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:02,160
i just wanted to explain how that at
least from my reading of the intent

506
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:06,480
behind that would be and i think the
easiest way to consider it is if you you

507
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,640
think of some examples of what might
come up

508
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:12,000
um
you know and one such example might be

509
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:18,160
that if
uh perhaps somebody had rented out their

510
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:21,920
property uh for a 90-day period and as
well as for a second 90-day period and

511
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:26,320
then there was an unfortunate
circumstance in which perhaps the the

512
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,359
structure became unusable for a brief
time so the ranchers were no fault of

513
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:34,079
the renter
left but was unable to remain the

514
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:38,880
homeowner then repairs the home
um and let's assume also the homeowner

515
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,680
isn't on site isn't in state lives out
of state

516
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:46,400
and wants to be able to to rent that
property out again um

517
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:50,000
i could see the the homeowner coming
before the board and explaining look

518
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:54,160
this isn't something where i'm in the
you know continuous short-term rental

519
00:38:51,839 --> 00:38:58,960
business this is a circumstance in which
i don't i don't i'm not on site

520
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:02,720
i fix the property i should be able to
use my property i should be able to

521
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:06,960
allow somebody to live there
so i could see somebody coming

522
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:11,440
before the board for that purpose
on the flip side you could see somebody

523
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:15,760
if perhaps they're looking toward a sale
of their property

524
00:39:13,359 --> 00:39:19,119
but there there's not going to be
anybody taking over the property or

525
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:24,240
taking possession
for say 60 days or so

526
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:27,920
and again they're living outside of the
of the confines of the state

527
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:33,920
i could see somebody coming before the
board perhaps to say look we're on the

528
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:37,680
under 90 day rental uh we would ask to
be able to rent our property for say you

529
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:41,280
know 60 days
um it's going to be somebody's going to

530
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:44,400
be taking possession of it after that
time and we'd ask for permission of the

531
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,040
board
and they would

532
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:51,599
i can't speak for them but their
argument would be because i i can't live

533
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:55,200
there i live elsewhere i'm paying
rent or a mortgage elsewhere i'd like to

534
00:39:53,839 --> 00:39:59,119
be able to have this property used for
that purpose so i did just want to

535
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:05,119
clarify where i think that particular
provision comes from

536
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:09,200
but that provision the 176-13
is the provision that talks about the

537
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:15,680
time frame of rentals so i hope that
clarifies

538
00:40:11,839 --> 00:40:15,680
thank you any questions from the board

539
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:23,839
uh all right before we open it to public
comment there was a um

540
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:27,520
a resident who is on last time uh
commented had sent some follow-up

541
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:32,400
questions i just want to address
them uh briefly if i can

542
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:36,319
um the first one related to
uh how many other villages in nassau

543
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:40,960
county were doing this um you know first
i'd say state that um we're not the

544
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:44,319
first to do it um i certainly don't
think we'll be the last

545
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:48,480
uh and i think we're trying to be
proactive and head off any issues and

546
00:40:47,359 --> 00:40:53,520
you know i don't want to sit around and
wait for something horrible to happen

547
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:57,280
before we put something in place we
shouldn't just wait around and be

548
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:01,680
reactive to every issue in the village
so i think there's enough documented

549
00:40:59,359 --> 00:41:06,319
cases of bad things happening with
short-term rentals that

550
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,760
provides a need for this type of
oversight and not just short-term

551
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:13,920
rentals we're talking about standards
for long-term rentals here

552
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:20,000
uh so as far as the number of villages
went um we had surveyed uh about 24

553
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:25,839
villages most of them in our surrounding
area uh eight of them had a rental

554
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:29,760
registry um and 13 of them had actually
uh limited or

555
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:35,040
banned short-term rentals
um so ronnie's going to continue to

556
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:40,400
reach out to villages there are um
approximately 64-ish

557
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:43,680
i think in nassau county obviously
thousands across the state um but we've

558
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,280
reached out to try and get more
information

559
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:51,280
but that's a sampling of of the villages
that we were able to get in touch with

560
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,160
and respond to so again we're not the
first

561
00:41:52,319 --> 00:42:00,319
to do this
um the second was around crime and do we

562
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:04,800
have problems with uh existing rentals
and specifically uh commenting i think

563
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:09,280
towards or questioning the need for this
around the rodent problem

564
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:12,800
uh and i think holistically here we're
trying to ensure that any rentals that

565
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:16,800
are operating in the village have
proper uh safety protocols in place

566
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,680
whether it be fire alarms smoke
detectors

567
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:22,960
that they're meeting certain
quality

568
00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:26,800
standards
and then

569
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:31,119
also making sure that there are
exterminator reviews in place

570
00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:33,680
so that any rodent or pest problems are
dealt with

571
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:37,839
specifically the rodent problem over the
summer

572
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:42,960
if one property was a rental property
the other property in question was a

573
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:46,560
was the food establishment so it's kind
of a chicken or the egg issue as to what

574
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,839
created the problem the rodents were
living on the rental property

575
00:42:48,319 --> 00:42:53,760
but they were getting food from the food
establishment so

576
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,839
uh in these cases we'd be uh potentially
addressing both problems to ensure

577
00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:01,280
there's proper
oversight um

578
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:06,560
uh in addition we can do inspections to
ensure that alterations aren't illegally

579
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:12,240
made uh that could promote safety hazard
fire you know lack of fire egresses

580
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:17,280
uh things like that uh as well
uh finally the third one related uh to

581
00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:21,119
go uh this went back to
uh have we had any disturbances and when

582
00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:25,680
i checked in with ronnie and our code
enforcer robert rockline um no we

583
00:43:23,359 --> 00:43:31,359
haven't had uh occurrences of large
parties or issues like that with rentals

584
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:36,079
uh however again i don't want to sit
around and wait for a problem to happen

585
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:38,800
and be reactive let's be proactive here
so i think those were the questions

586
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:43,119
submitted to the board tried to address
them as best i could um

587
00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:46,240
i think we'll open it up to a public
comment now

588
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:50,560
so if there's anybody on the line who'd
like to comment on this public law

589
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:52,960
uh please do so now just take yourself
off mute

590
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:15,520
uh wrote a backer
i assume this is for

591
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:19,119
the rental of the entire property
i just want to make sure that you have

592
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:26,400
some
garages with rooms up above them

593
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:32,079
although they're not
necessarily permitted in certain areas

594
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:37,920
they do exist
i therefore assume that this is not

595
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:44,640
rental of a
garage area or a separate

596
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,640
section of our house

597
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:52,079
my understanding was this would if you
were renting a room of your house this

598
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:56,800
would cover that as well
but

599
00:44:52,880 --> 00:45:00,880
i'll defer to jeff here jeff uh would if
someone was just renting out

600
00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:06,000
a garage apartment or part of the house
would it be covered by this

601
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:10,880
um it would because the dwelling unit is
defined as a building within the village

602
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:14,240
or part of such building occupied or to
be occupied by one or more persons as a

603
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,359
residence
and this covers

604
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:21,359
um
single family dwelling units so if

605
00:45:20,319 --> 00:45:26,640
somebody
uh the short answer is yes it will cover

606
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:31,440
it okay thank you
thank you

607
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:36,160
thank you rhoda
uh anybody else uh have a comment from

608
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,160
the public

609
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:49,520
all right uh thank you very much um
board any other comments questions

610
00:45:46,319 --> 00:45:49,520
discussion around this law

611
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:55,280
um
i think i it's maybe a

612
00:45:53,359 --> 00:45:57,630
well it's a little bit off the track but
maybe it's something we need to think

613
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:02,560
about um
[Music]

614
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:06,880
and i maybe that's what rota was
alluding to a little bit was

615
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:10,640
you know this idea of accessory dwelling
unit which typically is like a granny

616
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:13,119
flat kind of thing
um

617
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:17,440
is this covered
i mean in other words what's what is

618
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:20,640
there are there like family relationship
things that that

619
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:25,760
can
not be covered on this law or

620
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:29,839
how's that dealt with
jeff help me out here but my

621
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:35,280
understanding is um in new york state a
family unit is pretty broad here so

622
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:40,560
um if someone was just
allowing their daughter or their son

623
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:44,240
their niece nephew to live with them
um or

624
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:48,880
you know again it's pretty broad in new
york broader than that

625
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:52,160
without compensation i think is would be
part of it you know they could be

626
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:56,240
contributing to the bills together
uh but if you weren't renting to them

627
00:46:53,839 --> 00:47:00,640
for profit i think uh i think you'd be
covered as a single family dwelling okay

628
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:06,240
i i yeah i
am i muted no um i agree um the

629
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:09,920
definition of family is included here
um so it can be somebody that's related

630
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:14,000
but it doesn't have to be somebody
that's

631
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:19,119
not related um by blood or marriage but
who together constitute the functional

632
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:23,839
equivalent of a natural family and the
trigger of when this does

633
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:28,000
uh go into effect is really when there's
an exchange of funds in order for the

634
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,000
rentals

635
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:35,839
i just want to add that our village um
just basically does not permit two

636
00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:40,079
family dwellings or mother-daughter
apartments um there are a few mother

637
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:45,520
daughter apartments i think definitely
less than 10 that were granted um

638
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,720
through variances
uh

639
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:52,960
that are you know pre-existing but other
than the apartment house um

640
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:58,000
the uh
we i know of one illegal um

641
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:04,480
two-family home
and um other than that uh there's

642
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:11,200
no single dwelling that has uh living
space for more than one family other

643
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,200
than these like eight to ten homes

644
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:20,200
all right thank you
any other comments or questions from the

645
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,200
board

646
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:27,359
all right um
then uh say same thing for this law

647
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:31,680
let's keep it uh or law proposal let's
keep it open another month and uh look

648
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:35,800
to potentially take action based off
public feedback next month

649
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:42,880
okay so the next hearing is a proposed
local law h2021

650
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:47,160
amend the property maintenance code to
prohibit unsecured ladders

651
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:54,640
all right any comments or questions from
the board on this one

652
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:01,119
i think we're pretty clear last month
the intent of the law

653
00:49:01,359 --> 00:49:06,400
all right i'll open it up to the public
anybody who would like to make a comment

654
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:13,079
please come off mute state your name and
address for the stenographer

655
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,079
and keep your comment to three minutes

656
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:24,319
all right seeing no comments
um i think that uh concludes our public

657
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:28,480
hearing portion
um or the official public hearing

658
00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:32,720
portion for this meeting
um however i'm going to

659
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:37,440
ask for a motion to close the public
hearing portion of the meeting

660
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:40,640
i'll make the motion
do you hear a second

661
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:44,079
uh
trustee janiece yeah i'll make all

662
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:47,280
seconded
okay all the favor

663
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:54,160
hi
okay thank you

664
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:56,559
and he opposed any abstentions
none okay

665
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,760
um
so

666
00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:04,480
uh let me see i see a bunch of names on
here i think for the parking hearing uh

667
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,880
parking restriction hearing
um so

668
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:12,559
uh
i think maybe we move to that right now

669
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:16,079
um and just give people a chance to
comment on that and then they can stay

670
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:19,040
for the rest of the meeting if they'd
like but i see that we have a few people

671
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:24,000
on for that
so i first i apologize to everybody the

672
00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:28,480
newspapers did not print last week so
that prevents this from being a formal

673
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:33,280
public hearing but we will take comments
at today's meeting and submit them for

674
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:37,599
the record at next month's uh first
public hearing on uh the proposed law

675
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:43,280
ronnie you just want to give an overview
on what we're proposing for next month

676
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:47,920
yeah absolutely so um
based on some of the comments that we've

677
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:53,760
gotten by mail and email
on uh the kind of parking situation that

678
00:50:50,960 --> 00:51:00,400
we'd like to see on ridge drive east we
are proposing to create a no parking um

679
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:05,680
for certain hours zone
on ridge drive east starting from

680
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:10,480
northern boulevard i'm sorry ridge drive
west forgive me was drug bridge drug

681
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:13,280
west starting from northern boulevard
and extending

682
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:17,920
um
all the way to

683
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:20,559
terrywood i'm sorry i don't have to go
in front of me i am digging through my

684
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,839
papers
because i'm giving you wrong information

685
00:51:40,319 --> 00:51:46,880
and it's the one piece of paper that i
don't seem to have here okay it is

686
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:51,040
ridge drive east
from northern boulevard

687
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,040
hold

688
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:04,319
ridge drive right west from northern
boulevard

689
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:13,280
165 feet north of northern boulevard to
peachtree 8 a.m to 10 a.m and 4 p.m to 6

690
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,280
p.m

691
00:52:13,359 --> 00:52:20,640
and uh before we open it to the public
we had

692
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:26,319
it was two years ago now um
taken public comment on no parking um

693
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:30,079
during that entire period
um

694
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:34,880
part of this issue is being driven by
um

695
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:38,960
uh commercial parking in the area um i
know we had uh residents submit a

696
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:44,000
petition uh opposed to any charges and
changes in the parking code uh for the

697
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:48,960
area um i think this was an attempt at a
compromise and to solicit public

698
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:53,200
feedback um the board hasn't committed
to doing anything and is looking to get

699
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:57,680
public feedback on this so
um at this time we'll open it up well i

700
00:52:56,079 --> 00:53:02,160
just i guess sorry pause board of
trustees any questions or comments at

701
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:06,640
this time brian for the record we're
actually more of a question for ronnie

702
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:09,760
where are we on
the

703
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:13,839
reassignment of middle neck road to the
village

704
00:53:11,359 --> 00:53:19,119
uh we have not turned any further from
the planning commission the hearings are

705
00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:23,440
over now it is being sent to the
legislature for uh approval what with

706
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:27,280
the changes in the makeup of the
legislature i have no idea how long

707
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,920
that's going to take
okay but it has passed through the

708
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:33,760
planning board that was one of the
hurdles that needed to happen there

709
00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:37,680
wasn't any objections so at least we
passed that one hurdle no his random

710
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:42,960
planning board was in favor
excellent

711
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:46,559
um thank you randall
all right so we're going to open it up

712
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:51,119
to public comment at this point i know
we have several people to

713
00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:55,119
comment on this so please uh be patient
with us here

714
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:57,760
you can take yourself off mute
state your name and address for the

715
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:01,359
record
and

716
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:05,800
we'll start taking public comments so
anybody from the public who would like

717
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,800
to comment

718
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:17,839
um is the public off-mute can they
unmute themselves i don't know suzanne

719
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:22,160
maybe can you give us a test
i'll start actually uh my name is stacey

720
00:54:19,839 --> 00:54:27,280
messer i live on 19 ridge drive west i
wasn't able to make the the last meeting

721
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:30,960
um i think i guess you said it was two
years ago now

722
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:36,799
i'm trying to understand i
okay so you're putting the um signs to

723
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:41,839
peachtree and then where do you think
that these cars at that point will then

724
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:46,480
disperse because what they'll do
is they'll go up peachtree up east drive

725
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,359
west and
east

726
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:53,760
they'll go through the cutthroat middle
neck road they'll park on ridge drive

727
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:57,680
west at overhill they'll find all these
other places i actually don't

728
00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:03,280
necessarily think that my house will be
affected because it's so deep in but all

729
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:06,480
the cut-throughs that are around
flower hill

730
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,760
will have a problem
and

731
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:13,599
quite candidly when i moved into my
house

732
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:17,040
i saw these big lights from an apartment
building that shine into

733
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:20,799
my
house

734
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:24,960
and tried to talk to the town to get
higher fencing

735
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:30,079
i went by rules there was not allowed to
be higher fencing and i abide by those

736
00:55:27,359 --> 00:55:34,319
rules so i'm not exactly sure
and and i moved out of queens for a

737
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:38,079
reason right to not to be able to live
in a in a neighborhood

738
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:42,480
that does not resemble queens that
doesn't have signs on property that

739
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:47,760
doesn't take the
um parking from stores and brings it

740
00:55:45,359 --> 00:55:52,079
into the neighborhood so
i'm actually quite concerned as to why

741
00:55:50,799 --> 00:55:56,880
we would agree
to now have an entire neighborhood get

742
00:55:54,880 --> 00:56:01,280
impacted
um

743
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:05,599
by store traffic store parking
and change the whole dynamic of what

744
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:09,760
flower hill is because it will go out
through rosslyn through manhasset and

745
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:12,079
through port when people are looking for
homes

746
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:17,839
so it is a concern of mine and i'm not
really understanding the thought behind

747
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:23,920
it
okay thank you stacy appreciate that um

748
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:28,880
uh so i'd say definitely not looking to
push any of the commercial traffic into

749
00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:32,079
any other parts of the neighborhood
um so

750
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:37,280
uh i think what we're trying to figure
out is is there a balance here

751
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:41,680
uh to maybe push that commercial parking
more into the commercial area

752
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:45,280
i'd say too i think the long-term fix
and i've said this at past meetings is

753
00:56:43,839 --> 00:56:49,359
middle neck road
we think there's the opportunity to open

754
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:54,640
parking on middle neck road in front of
the apartment complex

755
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:57,760
and we'll be discussing an rfp later in
the meeting

756
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:00,799
so i really do believe that's the
long-term solution we'll see what the

757
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:06,160
traffic engineers have to say about it
but um just from some initial comments

758
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:10,240
from uh from other meetings uh or other
projects that we've done uh soliciting

759
00:57:08,319 --> 00:57:14,880
feedback from them uh they think that
could help and move the commercial

760
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:21,040
traffic out of the residential area
unfortunately this this area of ridge

761
00:57:17,359 --> 00:57:24,480
drive is uh being impacted by it and i
think we're trying to

762
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:27,359
listen to the public for potential
solutions

763
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:31,280
and ensure that they don't impact the
rest of the community so

764
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:36,720
that's something we'll be listening to
and considering as we as we move forward

765
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:42,480
these public hearing public meetings
all right is there uh anybody else who'd

766
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,480
like to comment publicly

767
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:54,480
yeah it is
six rich dry west

768
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,480
uh just like to ask a question

769
00:57:54,720 --> 00:58:00,000
is this
the traffic law

770
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:06,319
been changed
is the sport for temporary or is going

771
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,319
to be more for permanent

772
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:13,359
uh as the way this is proposed it does
not have a an end date so uh it would be

773
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:18,079
permanent so
um if uh the residents would like

774
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:22,799
something that would only be for a short
period of time uh that's something the

775
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:27,920
board can consider um
uh but as proposed right now it doesn't

776
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:30,880
uh it doesn't have an end point
i see

777
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:35,680
is that something you would be in favor
of or opposed to

778
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:40,799
actually what i'm concerned about is
that

779
00:58:37,359 --> 00:58:45,280
whether this is this is the solution
this is going to be the solution for the

780
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,799
problem that we've been having
um

781
00:58:45,700 --> 00:58:51,520
[Music]
and as the lady i want

782
00:58:48,799 --> 00:58:56,400
just one of our neighbors just
share her opinion

783
00:58:53,359 --> 00:59:00,079
and i'm not sure whether this would just
disperse the traffic elsewhere in our

784
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:04,720
neighborhood
and other neighbor neighbors in our

785
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:08,559
neighborhood is going to be impacted
and then i think that this is going to

786
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:14,480
be a constantly on the table for
discussion then travel there may not be

787
00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:19,359
going to be the best interest of
uh of our neighbors as well as uh you

788
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:24,640
know mayor and
and trustees of our village

789
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,640
yeah

790
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:30,240
all right thank you i appreciate that
that is one of the things that the board

791
00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:34,880
is wrestling with um
you know state law does not allow us to

792
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:38,480
just allow residents to park on our
streets

793
00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:43,119
um and i know other villages have talked
about it it's been covered in the news

794
00:59:40,799 --> 00:59:48,559
but that takes an act of state law to do
it and it is uh not uh something that

795
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:52,319
happens uh very frequently so
um unfortunately we we can't do that at

796
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:56,160
this time so
that's what we're trying to listen to

797
00:59:53,520 --> 01:00:04,319
the community as to what what uh you
know what other options there

798
00:59:58,839 --> 01:00:08,319
are the our business owners uh
in our neighborhood uh have impacted

799
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:12,559
with
with the situation uh are they

800
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:17,359
are they
aware of the uh seriousness of this uh

801
01:00:15,839 --> 01:00:22,240
issue
that we've been having

802
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:26,000
uh i don't know i we've met with them
several times we call them when uh when

803
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:29,440
we get complaints from you i think we've
made it abundantly clear to them that

804
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:32,319
it's an issue
they've told their employees not to park

805
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:36,480
over there
but unfortunately it seems like it

806
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:41,440
continues to occur so
um you know all we can do is can keep

807
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:45,280
doing that uh while we while we go
through this process

808
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:47,280
okay just just one more comment i'm
sorry

809
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:52,079
and then
uh we've been

810
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:58,079
the my my myself and my wife as well as
a few of our neighbor neighbors

811
01:00:55,040 --> 01:01:02,720
uh spoke to
someone an employee of a steakhouse

812
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:05,359
who constantly parking in our
neighborhood

813
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:12,640
and we
expressed our concern the safety concern

814
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:16,880
and some of the concerns that we have
we have had but

815
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:20,000
the response was uh
the derogatory

816
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,559
words
and

817
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,810
and it was a very
disrespectful

818
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:30,240
um
[Music]

819
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:33,440
so actually i i sent out a letter to the
owner of the steakhouse just for this

820
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:39,280
matter
um so i'm not i'm not sure

821
01:01:36,319 --> 01:01:44,000
if there may be a better
uh solution

822
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:48,720
uh without uh impacting our current
traffic law uh in our neighborhood and

823
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:53,280
that's that's what i want to say
all right thank you and please share the

824
01:01:50,799 --> 01:01:58,319
letter that you sent the business owner
to with us as well i'd like a copy of it

825
01:01:56,079 --> 01:02:03,280
and follow up with the business owner as
well um and i just uh mentioned as well

826
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:06,720
we have asked the police to
please try and monitor the area too

827
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:09,760
because of the speeding and other issues
that the residents there have raised

828
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,000
right
all right all right

829
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:15,839
thank you mayor
you're welcome thank you for joining are

830
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:19,760
there other comments from the public
anybody else

831
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:23,440
again just state your name and address
for the stenographer when you come off

832
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:27,039
mute
hi this is carrie o'callahan ridge drive

833
01:02:25,839 --> 01:02:31,599
west
hi carrie go ahead hey brian

834
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:36,480
so i agree with everything everybody has
been saying for these past i think we're

835
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:42,640
going on two and a half years now
what we have been asking is that the

836
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:45,760
businesses not be able to park here and
i know you've gone through a whole bunch

837
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:51,920
of different scenarios and trying to
figure out what that is

838
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:56,400
you know the problem has only become
really egregious

839
01:02:53,680 --> 01:03:00,640
over the course of the past few years uh
say three years prior to that these

840
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:04,000
businesses were able to control where
their employees parked so there has to

841
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,680
have been
some way

842
01:03:05,359 --> 01:03:11,280
that that was accomplished you know my
my

843
01:03:09,119 --> 01:03:16,400
underlying request to you for all of
this time has always been we just want

844
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:20,160
them to stop parking here in
ideally a way that doesn't impact any

845
01:03:18,799 --> 01:03:24,160
resident at all
it's not good for the neighborhood to

846
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:28,240
have them parking here so we just really
want to do what's best for all of us but

847
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:32,400
the answer can't be
you know we went out the other day and

848
01:03:29,599 --> 01:03:38,240
we counted there were 27 cars parked
between a two block radius between ridge

849
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:42,000
drive east and ridge drive west and only
three of those cars were resident

850
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:47,200
related
that that's a huge amount yeah that's

851
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:51,599
that's a lot of volume so i i just you
know i understand people's concerns

852
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:55,839
about it spreading further it is already
spreading further it has spread spread

853
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:59,599
down ridge drive east we've now been
seeing them on peachtree so it's already

854
01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:03,920
happening
experience has taught us here after all

855
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:08,799
this time we keep giving them spaces
they keep bringing more cars so we're

856
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:13,440
just really desperately looking for a
way to

857
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:17,440
maintain the suburban quality of life
that we have all become accustomed to

858
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:20,480
and as mr chung had just said in his
email

859
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:24,400
these people are really aggressive and
nasty you know if you try to say to them

860
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:27,200
hey i have a delivery coming can you
please not park the front of my in front

861
01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:31,359
of my house
um

862
01:04:28,799 --> 01:04:35,359
it's not like you get a polite response
um and and for some of us like me who

863
01:04:33,839 --> 01:04:39,240
don't have a driveway in the front of
our house it's really problematic

864
01:04:40,799 --> 01:04:44,240
all right thank you for those comments

865
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:51,559
anybody else from the public want to
comment

866
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:02,640
okay one last ask here anybody else from
the public

867
01:04:59,359 --> 01:05:08,400
um i guess uh just before i close it out
here so again uh we will um or actually

868
01:05:06,319 --> 01:05:14,720
we have to do a resolution to hold a
public hearing on this

869
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:14,720
uh parking proposal correct ronnie

870
01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:24,400
yes so uh at this point i would like to
ask one of the members of the board to

871
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:31,680
offer a resolution to hold a public
hearing on proposed local law of 2020

872
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:36,000
limiting parking on ridge drive west
at the next meeting

873
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,000
february

874
01:05:37,839 --> 01:05:43,599
so i'll make that motion and i just say
again to everybody you know we're trying

875
01:05:41,839 --> 01:05:47,680
to come up with a solution that does not
impact uh any of the neighborhood there

876
01:05:46,799 --> 01:05:51,520
so
please ask everybody to bear with us as

877
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:56,319
we take public comment
and as we work with uh traffic engineer

878
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:59,280
and the county to take over middle neck
road too

879
01:05:57,599 --> 01:06:02,559
so we'll keep this open and continue the
dialogue going here before we make any

880
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:08,559
decisions
yes we have a resolution um

881
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,559
on the floor do i hear a second

882
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:14,000
i'll make the second
max

883
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:24,480
trustee franco
okay i'll pull the board uh trustee

884
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,480
frankel

885
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:30,400
trustee
dorfman

886
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:34,240
you can just raise your hand okay
um our trustee lewandowski

887
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:37,760
hi
trustee collins

888
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:40,559
aye mr denise
aye

889
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:44,319
deputy mayor aye
mayor and mayor

890
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:48,319
hi all rights on for uh official public
hearing in february okay

891
01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:54,319
uh and ronnie i think we still have the
stenographer on um

892
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:59,760
uh so stay uh sorry with madeline i i
think madeline if you want to go now no

893
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:04,000
no no no mayor mayor um according to the
executive order uh that allows these

894
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:08,240
meetings we have to have a transcript of
the entire meeting

895
01:07:06,319 --> 01:07:11,839
okay so well then we'll we'll keep going
on it the i think

896
01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:15,760
that will be unless it's recorded and
then it would later be transcribed so

897
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:21,280
it's up to the to the point
well i'm not transcribing it later

898
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:26,160
all right so let's see what we've done
then i apologize madeline please stay on

899
01:07:23,839 --> 01:07:26,160
okay

900
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:32,960
um
all right um i'm just looking uh through

901
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:38,880
the agenda here and i see uh mr clemency
in the middle of my screen and uh he's

902
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:44,559
been very patient i appreciate that um i
want to move one uh one that item up to

903
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:50,480
uh the front here um north shore cable
commission has requested uh additional

904
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:55,039
funding uh for uh attorneys
um wanted him to come in and just give

905
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:59,680
us an update on where negotiations stand
north north uh shore cable commission

906
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:04,720
negotiates with
um altis um

907
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:08,319
for cable service in the area so bill
why don't you just give a little quick

908
01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:11,920
history and uh and give an update to the
board as to where we stand and why this

909
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:17,120
additional funding is needed sure the
the cable commission represents the

910
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:21,199
incorporated villages of manhasset and
great neck

911
01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:24,480
in our negotiations for the franchises
of the various cable

912
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:29,440
companies
obviously cablevision is now all tease

913
01:08:27,839 --> 01:08:35,199
optimum as they're
marketed and verizon

914
01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:35,199
we have

915
01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:42,239
been negotiating with them for the past
couple of years now

916
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:46,719
our present franchises have expired
and we're trying to get new franchises

917
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:50,880
to replace them
unfortunately this has been a very

918
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:55,600
prolonged process and they
have not been terribly accommodating or

919
01:08:53,199 --> 01:08:59,839
forthright up till now although that
being said we do appear to be finally

920
01:08:57,679 --> 01:09:04,839
making some progress with them
uh towards that end we have an attorney

921
01:09:03,199 --> 01:09:10,560
that we have engaged to
represent the commission in these

922
01:09:07,159 --> 01:09:15,520
negotiations and we are coming to the
various villages

923
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:19,440
with a request to provide funds for us
to continue

924
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:23,920
the process our hope is to have these
negotiations wrapped up by the end of

925
01:09:21,679 --> 01:09:27,920
this coming calendar year
uh however

926
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:33,080
we've pretty much exhausted the funds
that we

927
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:33,080
obtained from you earlier

928
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:40,080
our expectation is we'll probably need
about another thirty thousand dollars

929
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:44,319
to wrap this all up and what we've done
is we've asked each of the villages to

930
01:09:41,839 --> 01:09:48,080
contribute on a pro-rated
basis uh

931
01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:56,320
calculated using the number of
subscribers for the individual villages

932
01:09:51,679 --> 01:09:59,280
uh as a percentage of the overall
users

933
01:09:57,679 --> 01:10:05,520
for the
the commission um

934
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:10,239
i believe ronnie has a
an invoice that was sent to you back

935
01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:14,000
in december
and

936
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:17,199
essentially that's where we are right
now

937
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:20,239
the goal is to
finalize the franchises it looks like

938
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:24,719
we're
trying to get a 10-year franchise with

939
01:10:22,719 --> 01:10:28,960
both companies although verizon at this
point is only willing

940
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:32,000
to negotiate a five-year has been their
position and that's been one of the big

941
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:35,679
stumbling blocks
in the process

942
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:40,800
we'd still like to hold out for the 10
years though

943
01:10:38,239 --> 01:10:47,840
primarily based on the concern that
there probably is a finite life for

944
01:10:44,719 --> 01:10:53,120
these cable companies the move is to go
to streaming

945
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:58,239
and more and more of the residents are
starting to go that course

946
01:10:55,679 --> 01:11:03,679
we're seeing a small but a notable
downtick in the number of subscribers

947
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:07,760
across the board
and

948
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:11,520
my own personal expectation is by the
end of this present 10-year franchise

949
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:16,400
that we're trying to go
that will probably be represent the end

950
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:21,760
of cable television as we know it
so it's it's imperative that we try and

951
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:26,400
maximize the return on the franchise
that we're going for right now

952
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:31,199
and that's essentially where we are
it's it's a long process it took five

953
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:34,719
years last time
to get the

954
01:11:32,719 --> 01:11:38,800
uh
agreements that have now just expired so

955
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:42,960
i'm not shocked that it's taking as long
as it is but it's a frustrating

956
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:47,040
prolonged process but
it's important that we get this thing

957
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,040
squared away

958
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:52,800
all right thank you bill
i'd be happy to answer any questions any

959
01:11:51,199 --> 01:11:55,840
of the board may have
i know this is kind of an out of the

960
01:11:54,400 --> 01:12:00,800
blue thing for a lot of you you're
really not familiar

961
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:05,040
with the cable commission
the other hand there is a trustee for

962
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:07,679
north shore television which is the
public access

963
01:12:06,719 --> 01:12:12,159
channel
which is where much of the funding that

964
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:15,679
we're trying to negotiate goes to
so

965
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:19,199
that's really where we're at at this
point and as i say i'd be happy to

966
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:22,400
entertain any questions that you may
have so bill i have a couple of

967
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:26,640
questions
um this is only for the television

968
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:31,280
portion
of the service not for the phone and not

969
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:37,199
for the interrupt not for the internet
that that's all governed by the psc

970
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:41,679
right it is only strictly the cable
television

971
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:44,400
component that the franchises
uh

972
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:48,159
fund
right so you're asking so you're asking

973
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:54,080
for three about three thousand dollars
if i if i read this properly yeah so

974
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:57,440
what is the what is the annual payback
that we

975
01:12:55,040 --> 01:13:01,440
currently get and what we're hoping to
get going forward to show that this

976
01:12:59,199 --> 01:13:04,320
three thousand dollars is well spent
you know what i'm embarrassed to say i i

977
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:09,600
don't know that off top in my head
ronnie can probably know

978
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:13,840
it's three percent of the gross
for

979
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:17,920
the uh television portion franchise
right so for every hundred dollars that

980
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:20,400
they build the village gets three
dollars

981
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:30,400
hey so
yeah um

982
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:36,080
2019 actual was uh 71 000 2020 actual
for franchise fees was 79 000 okay

983
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:39,679
all right so spending three thousand
seven dollars about right in fact it's

984
01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:43,360
ten percent of the
public access budget yeah so all right

985
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:47,600
so three thousand dollars is a pretty
good investment as far as i'm concerned

986
01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:51,840
i would hope so i mean that's the reason
we're doing it um and it's also the

987
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:56,400
reason that the commission was created
because

988
01:13:52,960 --> 01:14:00,080
you know 16 villages combining
their

989
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:04,320
negotiations
hopefully would yield a much much

990
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:07,600
stronger position than what
any one single village can hope to

991
01:14:06,239 --> 01:14:12,239
accomplish
and and i think that's been true bill

992
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:16,640
and i know uh at uh some other villages
have been uh i

993
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:22,400
should say i appreciate your
participation in active uh uh your

994
01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:27,760
activity in this you are our village's
representative uh you're also i know the

995
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:31,440
chair um and um i know in some other
villages they're not getting the same

996
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:35,600
type of engagement and um
uh sometimes i'm answering questions uh

997
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:39,440
before they before they have the
information from their folks so uh

998
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:43,040
appreciate your leadership over there
and volunteering to move this along um i

999
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:46,960
agree with randall i don't know and
board any other questions on this

1000
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:54,880
i just want i just want you to note that
it's 2950.

1001
01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:58,000
you forgot to do your paperwork okay
so the invoices for two thousand nine

1002
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:03,520
hundred and fifty dollars i'll make it a
motion to authorize the payment of that

1003
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:06,520
invoice all right thank you just have
sucker

1004
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:15,199
at 160 chestnut road having
been on the commission

1005
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:20,159
uh
many many years ago

1006
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:26,159
who's the attorney
who's handling it the fellow's name is

1007
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:31,520
dan cohen he's a media
attorney located in pennsylvania phil in

1008
01:15:29,679 --> 01:15:35,199
pittsburgh i'm sorry pittsburgh
pennsylvania

1009
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:39,760
he handles these negotiations for
commissions all over the country

1010
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:42,080
yes
okay

1011
01:15:40,719 --> 01:15:47,600
thank you
all right thanks

1012
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:47,600
we have a motion already uh on the table

1013
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:53,840
i made a motion
i'll second it

1014
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,840
all right

1015
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:59,040
uh all those in favor raise your hand
say aye aye

1016
01:15:57,010 --> 01:16:04,239
[Music]
answer opposed abstentions none

1017
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:06,640
unanimously approved all right thank you
very much

1018
01:16:05,199 --> 01:16:10,560
thank you bill
really appreciate your time

1019
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:17,280
good night
good night um we're gonna go uh back to

1020
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:21,840
the regular schedule here um
so i'll look for a motion to approve the

1021
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,840
minutes for the meeting

1022
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:29,760
from the distribution
thank you mary jo

1023
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:34,480
do we have a second
second

1024
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:42,000
claire thank you second from claire all
those in favor say aye hi hi

1025
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:44,800
thank you any opposition
abstentions

1026
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:51,120
seeing none
proved unanimously

1027
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:51,120
all right we'll move to the claims

1028
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:57,120
i'll look for a motion to approve the
claims

1029
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:59,520
any questions i should say first on the
claims

1030
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,840
none

1031
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:08,159
seeing none i'll make uh is there a
motion i'll make a motion to approve the

1032
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:13,920
claims
is there a second i'll second it

1033
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,920
okay

1034
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,800
all those in favor

1035
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:25,280
abstentions max do you have to abstain
from anything on here i don't think so

1036
01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:29,199
or
no he um

1037
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:34,560
has his blank ascension for the art of
landscaping and i think i'm forever

1038
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:36,880
blanking from that there you are perfect
all right

1039
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,120
claims are approved

1040
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:48,640
all right uh rich uh i know you talked
about the snow before any updates

1041
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:58,960
um yeah no we actually got lucky today
um right now we're just tracking

1042
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:04,000
something for friday uh i know they're
talking if obviously again like today if

1043
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:07,840
this tracks a little bit more north
we'll get more

1044
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:10,640
more snow but you know we got a couple
of days before

1045
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:14,719
before we actually have an idea what's
gonna happen but you know whatever comes

1046
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:17,040
you know we're ready for it just like
today

1047
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:24,480
all right thank you
no problem

1048
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:29,120
all right oh one thing i'm sorry i just
forgot one thing i know frank

1049
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:33,120
we've been talking about that that uh
pothole slash

1050
01:18:31,199 --> 01:18:36,880
problem we're still having over there
uh me and ronnie and heather were

1051
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:42,159
actually we've been working with this
contractor to get him to fix it and

1052
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:46,239
nothing has nothing has been done so i
believe now ronnie right we're going to

1053
01:18:45,199 --> 01:18:51,199
uh
get the bond

1054
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,199
on on this contractor

1055
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:58,640
that's correct uh we're gonna go against
bond um you know not right now since we

1056
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:02,640
can't you know this is not the time to
fix the road yeah yeah yeah

1057
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:05,679
yeah we're gonna do it you know in the
early spring

1058
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:08,480
okay good i just wanted to update you
frank just because i know the last two

1059
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:12,320
months you were you were asking for it
so i know i don't want you to think i

1060
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:14,800
forgot about you i i i
i'm

1061
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:17,199
sure that you did not forget about it
richie

1062
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:26,239
rich has been actively uh started this
year's road assessment too so

1063
01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:30,320
2022 yep
feel free to send him any uh comments or

1064
01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:34,719
pictures as he uh moves through the
village uh to

1065
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:39,280
to score the roads
and just for the record rich told me

1066
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:43,920
that he can't stripe the streets until
the weather's like 70 degrees

1067
01:19:41,679 --> 01:19:46,880
if anyone was coming by
i mean

1068
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:52,239
if we get lucky on a day we can get like
60s you know we'll put down the material

1069
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:56,080
um i mean it's happened before we've had
some we've had some warm weather in

1070
01:19:53,840 --> 01:20:00,239
january february believe it or not yeah
so if we get if we do get lucky i you

1071
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:04,400
know i have no problem putting it down
just took the material forever to get to

1072
01:20:02,239 --> 01:20:07,679
us and by that time it got pretty cold
so

1073
01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:13,360
but if we get lucky with the warm warm
day we'll definitely put it

1074
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:19,120
all right thank you um quick sorry quick
question for rich um just any quick

1075
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:25,280
update on stoningtown road on the
landslide waiting to happen

1076
01:20:22,159 --> 01:20:29,600
uh i'm i'm not sure which we don't have
the latest on that don't worry so um

1077
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:33,840
peter uh
and jeff uh because i know some of this

1078
01:20:31,440 --> 01:20:36,719
was dealt with in court um there's some
emails on it um

1079
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:40,480
so
uh the noles lane property owner was in

1080
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:45,440
court uh
took some says uh she

1081
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:48,639
stated that he took some steps or the
steps that the village recommended

1082
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:52,800
um
and uh we're waiting for verification on

1083
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:55,830
that there was a map that he was
supposed to provide with

1084
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,560
i think
[Music]

1085
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:02,320
marking out where some of the different
drains were on the property too as part

1086
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:05,840
of that work so it sounds like knowles
lane

1087
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:09,360
has done most of their work and then
peter

1088
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:12,159
just give an update on the stoney town
property please

1089
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:18,320
well their engineer has been in contact
um we were waiting the the first thing

1090
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:22,080
we were waiting for them which we
stressed that was important was the

1091
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:26,080
existing wall at the top of the hill the
stability of that

1092
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:30,239
uh they had to get a i guess a separate
structural engineer to do that uh we

1093
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:33,679
haven't gotten that yet
um

1094
01:21:31,440 --> 01:21:37,920
and again we wanted to coordinate both
the plan from knowles and and theirs

1095
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:42,960
together to see how it worked together
to to mitigate any future work so it's

1096
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:45,840
been slow and coming we gotta apply a
little pressure here because frankly

1097
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,920
it's taking taking too long from
everybody

1098
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:52,159
so
um they have both been in court correct

1099
01:21:50,239 --> 01:21:57,520
jeff
so where do their cases stand in court

1100
01:21:54,880 --> 01:22:01,199
they've both been adjourned over the
knolls property was put over to next

1101
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:04,560
month in order to allow for them to meet
with

1102
01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:07,440
mr obinski and
robert rockline

1103
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:11,920
the
stoneytown property had also been

1104
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:14,000
adjourned over but the concern i have is
that

1105
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:19,280
um
as mr obinski is mentioning

1106
01:22:16,480 --> 01:22:21,679
and and as mr lanazek i think would echo
they've been reaching out to get this

1107
01:22:20,639 --> 01:22:25,760
report
uh the main issue is that report on the

1108
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:28,800
status of the wall the safety of the
wall

1109
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:32,400
okay so
and mary jo i'll follow up with you

1110
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:38,080
separately um i'll follow up with the
rest of the board separately

1111
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:42,800
um we will uh let me consult with
jeff peter and robert on next steps but

1112
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:46,480
we'll be taking further action we've
already cited them once and that's why

1113
01:22:44,239 --> 01:22:51,159
they're in court and so
i want to evaluate our options okay

1114
01:22:52,239 --> 01:22:54,639
um

1115
01:22:55,120 --> 01:23:01,520
also uh just from the village engineer's
perspective ronnie i saw the emails on

1116
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:05,360
the cardinal road property
um they are going to dig on their

1117
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:10,400
property uh folks may remember this is
the one with the septic tank issues

1118
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:14,960
so they've offered to dig on their
property and they wanted

1119
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:19,199
observers from the village
county and town there

1120
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:24,480
to help establish whether a pipe exists
and see if they can help determine who

1121
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:28,800
that pipe is owned by um so
that should be occurring on january 12th

1122
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:32,080
and i know mr einbender said the earlier
the better so

1123
01:23:30,719 --> 01:23:36,560
you know ronnie i'd say let's shoot for
9 a.m and try and confirm that with

1124
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:40,159
steve uh peter and the rest of the folks
that are supposed to be involved because

1125
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:43,520
that's next week okay
yeah i i wrote back because i don't

1126
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:47,440
think he was clear that that's was you
know what was supposed to happen

1127
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:51,360
i think he he believes that we're just
having a you know a meeting um so i'm

1128
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:54,880
hoping to clear that up with him by
tomorrow

1129
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:58,880
okay yeah there's no purpose to i think
have a a group meeting again

1130
01:23:57,440 --> 01:24:02,159
this to death so
um

1131
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:06,239
the next meeting we have will be to
observe them actually digging on the

1132
01:24:03,679 --> 01:24:11,040
property okay
uh what do we have next and polling

1133
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:15,120
place resolution
yeah so um

1134
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:20,239
i'm looking for someone to offer this
resolution announcing the polling place

1135
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:22,400
in time for the march 15 2022 general
election

1136
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:25,360
um
uh the

1137
01:24:23,679 --> 01:24:28,840
this resolution must be adopted at least
60 days prior to the election

1138
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:33,440
and
um we are resolving that the election be

1139
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:37,199
held at village hall the hours will be
from 6am to 9pm

1140
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:42,320
um
that certain notices will be provided at

1141
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:46,159
least 10 days prior to the election
uh notice that you in the polling place

1142
01:24:44,239 --> 01:24:50,239
the hours the polls and the names and
addresses of all those who are nominated

1143
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:54,880
for for office
and um these notices will also be posted

1144
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:57,880
in at least six places throughout the
village

1145
01:24:58,480 --> 01:25:03,840
we still need to have we still need to
have a meeting first week in

1146
01:25:02,410 --> 01:25:08,960
[Music]
wednesday yeah you're ready you have

1147
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:13,840
that february 3rd at 7 00 pm we will
have a special meet to appoint the

1148
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,840
election inspectors

1149
01:25:15,440 --> 01:25:20,080
all right i'll make a motion for that
resolution

1150
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:29,280
thank you claire
those in favor say aye aye

1151
01:25:28,159 --> 01:25:34,400
aye
opposed abstentions

1152
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:39,040
again seeing none passes unanimously
all right jeff uh your report uh i don't

1153
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:43,520
think there's any external uh updates
but uh bza

1154
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:48,960
bga i
circulated a written report

1155
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:52,320
um while most is self-explanatory i do
want to follow up on

1156
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:54,560
item number one
um

1157
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:57,440
because
at first

1158
01:25:55,679 --> 01:26:02,080
reading that'll appear like it's a very
large uh request that the applicant's

1159
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:06,560
seeking to increase the floor area ratio
to 10

1160
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:11,920
593.96 square feet where the maximum
permitted is 5068.

1161
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:15,199
um just to clarify this
was before the board

1162
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:21,840
before
but when this house was built

1163
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:27,040
the size of the structure
above 10 000 square feet was permitted

1164
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:30,800
um the code was changed after that house
was constructed

1165
01:26:28,639 --> 01:26:33,840
um they're now requesting a variance but
the house was already built at that

1166
01:26:32,639 --> 01:26:37,360
about now
you know large

1167
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:41,120
number what they're actually requesting
in the end the variance they're seeking

1168
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:44,880
will actually reduce
um

1169
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:47,679
their floor area their floor area ratio
so

1170
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:51,679
um i'm just looking at mr obinski what
essentially happened was they came

1171
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:54,960
before zba they were making some changes
and they

1172
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:58,080
made some modifications even to their
proposal

1173
01:26:56,080 --> 01:27:02,000
which would lessen the impact of of the
existing structure such as

1174
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:06,320
removing
roofs from proposed

1175
01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:09,920
upper decks and things of that nature
that makes the volume

1176
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:13,679
uh appear
to be less impactful to those

1177
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:17,440
surrounding so i'm just looking at mr
obinski if you can share some thoughts

1178
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:22,239
on that but that's i think the summary
of where that application stands and why

1179
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:25,920
the board of zoning felt that after the
number of changes that the applicant

1180
01:27:23,679 --> 01:27:28,719
made that it made sense to grant it
because the benefits off by the

1181
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:33,360
applicant
would outweigh any detriment to the

1182
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:37,840
surrounding community
yeah so i mean the proposal was it's

1183
01:27:36,159 --> 01:27:42,320
basically alterations but there was some
pushing and pulling of some of the areas

1184
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:47,280
creating balconies taking away in other
areas when they first came in they were

1185
01:27:45,440 --> 01:27:51,280
i think they were they increased the
area by several hundred square feet so i

1186
01:27:50,159 --> 01:27:56,320
think the
the direction of the of the zoning board

1187
01:27:53,360 --> 01:28:00,320
was they wanted it reduced so that there
was no more than the existing they were

1188
01:27:58,639 --> 01:28:02,719
doing some again pushing and pulling at
some of the different corners of the

1189
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:08,639
house
and balconies and in the end we we got

1190
01:28:06,239 --> 01:28:12,800
uh got them to go under what their their
square footage was

1191
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:16,639
and historically i looked at this and it
seems that as soon as this application

1192
01:28:14,639 --> 01:28:21,360
was submitted
that's what tipped off the whole far

1193
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:26,320
requirement of the village code it
followed like almost within a month

1194
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:30,159
uh of this after a couple months of this
application being filed

1195
01:28:28,639 --> 01:28:32,960
i guess at the time never realized
people could take it it was only a

1196
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:37,199
coverage
uh requirement

1197
01:28:35,199 --> 01:28:42,920
uh but not an far
so i think this was the test case to

1198
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,920
that created that

1199
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:49,520
and other than that i have nothing
further to report unless there are

1200
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:53,920
questions
all right

1201
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,920
any questions for jeff

1202
01:28:54,560 --> 01:29:02,800
all right um
i do not have uh any updates uh for this

1203
01:29:00,719 --> 01:29:05,280
meeting uh so
um

1204
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:10,000
claire do you want to talk about the
food drive and the amazing drive from

1205
01:29:08,159 --> 01:29:14,560
thanksgiving through christmas and the
end of the year was it was phenomenal no

1206
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:19,600
happy too i guess this is my monthly
shout out to the vincent smith school

1207
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:21,760
who once again um came out really strong
um

1208
01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:25,360
they collected
so much food that they again earned

1209
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:30,159
another week without a uniform
we had a great ceremony with resident

1210
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:33,440
milan doshi the mayor came
to thank the children and just educate

1211
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:37,600
them a little bit on the impact that
they're having in the community uh it

1212
01:29:35,440 --> 01:29:40,800
was a great event all around um again
they collected a

1213
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:44,719
huge amount of food
really proud of them and just hope to

1214
01:29:42,639 --> 01:29:48,159
continue this momentum into the new year
for sure

1215
01:29:46,719 --> 01:29:53,040
and uh
i gotta tell you it was a great

1216
01:29:49,199 --> 01:29:56,560
experience the kids were so happy um
understanding how they were impacting

1217
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:59,360
people's lives it was a great civics
lesson um

1218
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:03,600
and i think a great example for the
community so i know there were a couple

1219
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:06,400
ideas uh things that the the school
wanted to follow up on and potentially

1220
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:09,840
partner with the village on so let's
let's definitely do that

1221
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:13,760
thank you for
uh all the work around that

1222
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:18,159
that's that's really great that's really
great to hear and we should get this out

1223
01:30:16,239 --> 01:30:22,560
published in some way because this is a
really good story like you know we

1224
01:30:20,719 --> 01:30:28,239
should build on this one
i don't know um if the do we have a

1225
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:32,639
reporter even in our midst here but uh
let's get the story out there

1226
01:30:30,159 --> 01:30:38,560
were there any photos from the event
yeah we have photos it's up on facebook

1227
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:41,199
uh and we will put something out yeah
and we should talk about a little bit

1228
01:30:39,440 --> 01:30:43,440
further gary just there there are some
privacy concerns with some of the

1229
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:47,840
children you know that can't be
fulfilled sure no

1230
01:30:44,719 --> 01:30:51,600
but um i totally agree it's a it's a
real feel-good event for sure good

1231
01:30:52,719 --> 01:31:00,840
all right um
[Music]

1232
01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:07,440
rfp for village auditor is
next okay so um the village went out to

1233
01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:12,320
bid for our um annual ordered services
for the village as well as for the

1234
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:16,639
justice court um we received four
responses um

1235
01:31:14,159 --> 01:31:23,440
two of them were quite high we
interviewed the two low uh look two low

1236
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:26,239
responses and uh that was by the the
mayor the deputy mayor suzanne and

1237
01:31:25,199 --> 01:31:31,040
myself
and we were really impressed by the firm

1238
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:34,159
called skin in faber
they do

1239
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:38,639
many other villages in our area
including north hills and

1240
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:42,719
the staff at north hills has been very
happy with them and found them very easy

1241
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:46,000
to work with
again as i said they were with a little

1242
01:31:44,159 --> 01:31:50,320
bit so um i'd like to ask for a
resolution uh

1243
01:31:48,159 --> 01:31:53,199
uh authorizing the mayor to enter into
an agreement

1244
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:57,600
to um
sign up with skinning in favor as our

1245
01:31:55,199 --> 01:32:03,440
auditor for a three-year period and also
for the record this this uh

1246
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:08,320
accounting firm does a lot of municipal
audits that's what they specialize in

1247
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:14,400
they don't yeah they don't do much of
anything else they do schools villages

1248
01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:18,080
um just special districts
and they do have a lot of government

1249
01:32:16,239 --> 01:32:22,560
accounting and they do a lot of villages
that's our size as well so they have a

1250
01:32:20,719 --> 01:32:27,040
lot of experience they've got to put the
right people on the team and i think

1251
01:32:24,719 --> 01:32:29,920
it's a good choice to go with these
people

1252
01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:34,719
yeah and i just add to that based on our
conversation uh with them and the others

1253
01:32:32,719 --> 01:32:38,960
i felt like this was the best firm uh
for the reasons you've all stated um

1254
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:42,239
also um
just

1255
01:32:40,639 --> 01:32:45,600
they're not overwhelming themselves like
you're saying they do a lot of municipal

1256
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:49,199
accounts but i mean when we talk about
these contracts and services right this

1257
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:52,400
has come up with paving it's not only
just about the lowest bidder it's making

1258
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:56,960
sure you're getting somebody who's going
to do the work do quality work and

1259
01:32:55,679 --> 01:33:00,320
that the staff is going to have a good
rapport with we have them walk us

1260
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:04,800
through what their process is
uh when they come to village hall how

1261
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:08,719
they will communicate with the staff
and so i think they have a really good

1262
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:13,040
plan in place that will uh achieve the
goals of the village ensuring that

1263
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:17,360
you know we can make sure that our
finances are in order uh so i'll just

1264
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:20,400
add that to the comments uh to this
point and

1265
01:33:18,639 --> 01:33:24,080
uh are there any questions from the
board on this uh on this rfp the it's a

1266
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:31,040
skin in
skinning and far favor sorry is the firm

1267
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:31,040
that we're talking about going with

1268
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:39,360
um if there's no questions i'll make a
motion to um

1269
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:42,639
enter well i have to enter into the
contract right so i'll see if somebody

1270
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:46,719
else will make the motion i'll make the
motion

1271
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,719
thank you second

1272
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:53,920
all right um all those in favor aye
aye

1273
01:33:52,320 --> 01:34:00,719
opposed
extension seeing none passes unanimously

1274
01:33:57,440 --> 01:34:00,719
all right um

1275
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:05,199
sorry just going through making sure i
checked off everything i was supposed to

1276
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:10,400
i think the last thing we have is the
middle neck rfp is that the last thing

1277
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:16,080
on the agenda ronnie yes it is
so again we put out an rfp for an

1278
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:20,880
engineering firm to
design the parking on middle neck road

1279
01:34:18,639 --> 01:34:28,800
um we've got three responses we've got
two very high responses uh vhb who is um

1280
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:34,080
bob eschbacker's firm was by far the low
bid for uh basically all similar

1281
01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:38,400
services um
i had sent you the entire all the

1282
01:34:36,159 --> 01:34:42,400
packets uh that were part of the
responses

1283
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:47,840
um if you're ready to make a commitment
now we could test the resolution uh and

1284
01:34:44,719 --> 01:34:52,400
get started ronnie did you say that
ashbaca was the lowest bid

1285
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:56,320
yes by far so this is a no-brainer
basically because they're the best

1286
01:34:54,480 --> 01:34:59,920
i know that's what i i said well when
the mayor asked me about them i said you

1287
01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:59,920
know

1288
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:06,000
they're the best traffic and parking
consultants

1289
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:08,960
agreed i stuff accountability i know did
a lot of work with them too back when i

1290
01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:11,920
was with the county so i know they got
great

1291
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:15,040
tons of experience they're real pros
they really are

1292
01:35:13,679 --> 01:35:17,760
yeah
all right

1293
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:22,239
any questions from the board
oh wait did ronnie say can we vote to

1294
01:35:19,679 --> 01:35:25,760
move that or that has to sure no if we
can

1295
01:35:23,679 --> 01:35:30,239
get them on board and get this going
what's the scope what's the scope again

1296
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:35,600
um
you know it's basically um

1297
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:39,600
so
measurements and design and watch the

1298
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:43,119
traffic flow and figure out where we
should put the traffic so this is a

1299
01:35:41,119 --> 01:35:46,480
study this is for a study or is this
foreign

1300
01:35:45,440 --> 01:35:50,159
i'll read it to you they're going to
prepare a conceptual plan

1301
01:35:48,480 --> 01:35:54,800
uh for the total number of parking
stalls that may be obtained by modifying

1302
01:35:52,239 --> 01:35:58,400
striping middle neck road
from

1303
01:35:55,600 --> 01:36:02,080
northern boulevard towards greenway
um so they're gonna look at that area

1304
01:36:00,239 --> 01:36:07,040
and look at how we can adjust the road
to provide for parking um layout uh

1305
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:10,960
pavement markings and signage that we
would need along the road

1306
01:36:08,639 --> 01:36:14,159
um look at potential sight distance
impacts on adjacent driveways because

1307
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:18,239
that was one of the things we heard from
the community was they didn't want if

1308
01:36:16,639 --> 01:36:22,239
parking was being supplied on the road
they didn't want their driveway access

1309
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:26,320
there impacted
and itemized construction cost estimates

1310
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:28,560
for proposed work i think that was all
of it

1311
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:39,600
all right uh anybody want to make a
motion

1312
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:43,920
i'll make the motion uh
to approve

1313
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:48,719
uh vhp as our traffic
and parking consultant

1314
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:48,719
yeah

1315
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:55,840
i'll say okay
trustee frankful is the second all in

1316
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:55,840
favor aye aye aye

1317
01:36:56,400 --> 01:37:02,400
all right that's everything on the
agenda

1318
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:05,360
the history report has been submitted uh
we're not gonna have a presentation

1319
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:09,600
tonight uh but it's been submitted for
the record

1320
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:14,639
anything else from the board or
the staff at this time

1321
01:37:11,199 --> 01:37:14,639
if not we'll move to public comment

1322
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:22,159
all right
let's move to public comment we'll open

1323
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:25,360
it up to anybody from the public who has
comments for the board

1324
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:29,600
i would say
to anybody wishing to comment please

1325
01:37:27,199 --> 01:37:35,840
state your name address and you have
three minutes to speak

1326
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,840
just take yourself off mute

1327
01:37:38,480 --> 01:37:44,400
anybody
all right

1328
01:37:42,239 --> 01:37:49,679
with seeing nope uh nobody wanting to
participate in public comment uh i'll

1329
01:37:46,159 --> 01:37:53,840
look for a motion to adjourn the meeting
i'll make the motion

1330
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:57,840
i'll second it
all right all those in favor say hi

1331
01:37:56,320 --> 01:38:02,560
hi
close detention classes unanimously

1332
01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:07,400
everybody have a good night thank you
bye

1333
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,400
good night everyone