[1:48] [clears throat] [1:54] I'm going to call the fully city council meeting of August 4th to order. Let's [1:59] please rise for the pledge of allegiance. [clears throat] [2:02] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the [2:07] republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and [2:13] justice for all. [2:18] » All right. I'd be looking for a motion to approve the agenda. [2:23] » Second. [2:26] » Um motion is made and seconded. Further discussion in favor? I I post same sign. [2:32] Motion carries. Next, we be looking to uh for a motion to approve the consent [2:38] agenda. >> I'll make a motion to approve the [2:40] consent agenda. >> I will second that motion. Motion is [2:45] made and seconded. Any further discussion? [2:47] » In favor, I I oppose. Same sign. >> Motion carries. Moving on to item number [2:52] five, mayor's comments and open forum. Zero. I do believe Deb wanted to take a [2:57] minute. I just think as long as we have at least one of our candidates here, it [3:02] might be nice to just give our names, you can make teenytiny ex explanation or [3:10] however you feel. It's better way to start that they at least know who is [3:15] who. >> Great. You want to start? [3:19] » Yep. I'm Deb Mitz and I will be pending at the end of the year [3:24] » after a four-year term. >> After four year term. Uh, Mayor Brandon [3:28] Voit, uh, coming up on the end of my two-year term. Served on two years of [3:32] council, uh, prior to that. >> I'm Gary Swanson. My term is up. I am [3:38] rer runninging for the position of county council in this. [3:42] » How long have you been running or been on council? [3:46] How long have you been on council? >> Total? [3:51] » Probably 8, 10, 12 years I've served. Yes. [3:55] » Great. Stephanie Lloyd, city council member for two years now, halfway [4:00] through. >> Jeff Gond, I've been on here 10 years. [4:06] » Excellent. Thank you for that, Deb. Uh, with nothing else, we'll move on to item [4:10] number six. We have a guest here, Darren Lee from the Coalition of Greater [4:13] Minnesota Cities to share uh some things from legislation and beyond. [4:20] » Thank you very much for having me. Uh Darren Lee with Flarity and Hood. We [4:25] represent the Coalition of Greater Minnesota Cities down at the state [4:28] capital. And so we like to stop by to all of our member cities. Well, maybe [4:34] not all most, as many as we can make it to uh during the interim between [4:38] legislative sessions and give you an update on what we've been doing down at [4:42] the capital on your behalf. Um sort of a recap and a little preview of what we've [4:47] got going on. uh what we see coming up with election and then uh next year. So, [4:54] starting with kind of a reminder of who we are, we represent 100 cities across [5:00] the state. Uh there's our updated map with all of our members on there and [5:05] we're outside the metropolitan area, seven county area. And so that [5:10] distinguishes us from say the League of Minnesota Cities who represents [5:15] metropolitan area and greater Minnesota. So it allows us to focus on some of the [5:20] issues uh give more attention directly on issues that affect cities outside the [5:26] metro. Those are some of the issues that we work on. We added a couple uh the [5:31] last couple of years because we've been spending a lot of time on them uh [5:35] housing and EMS services u because we've spending a lot of time on those and I'll [5:41] talk a little bit about housing as we uh get a little further on here. we can go [5:47] to the next slide. Um, so starting with a recap, [5:53] uh, a pause here because I've got some handouts, [5:57] some more information I want to pass out folks. [6:02] Thank you. [6:10] » So, got some info in your folder here. Uh you'll have our session recap, our [6:17] session report, um which will go into a little more detail than I can get into [6:22] today. uh frequently asked questions, kind of who we are, um what we do, our [6:30] staff contacts, I work on transportation, [6:34] uh and then we have all of our other staff that's available to you for any [6:39] questions you have uh related to those issues uh or any concerns. And then we [6:46] have our environmental program uh sheet talking about uh water wastewater [6:53] quality. I was talking to Sarah uh who I know is not here tonight, but um she was [6:58] telling me that you're dealing with some water quality issues. Um we're going to [7:02] require some new water treatment. So, um they'll that'll be, you know, relevant [7:08] to the bonding bill, but this is also a good one to look at um on those sort of [7:14] issues. And then, uh our labor and employment program, our housing report, [7:20] it's a pretty lengthy report. So, on this sheet here, you've got on one side [7:24] a link that you can go to read our housing report. And then this just [7:28] recently came out, our candidate packet for candidates that are running for the [7:34] legislature and that has quite a bit of information on all the things that we [7:39] work on at the capital. And so, uh, that's also included. And then I think [7:45] the last one, we got a lot of stuff in here. Uh, our upcoming events. So, we [7:50] just recently had our summer conference, which was, uh, really a good one. One, [7:54] one of the best, I think the best conference that I've been at. we've [7:57] done. Uh, and Sarah often comes to our stuff. Um, but if you didn't make it to [8:03] our summer conference, we got our fall conference coming up in November. Then [8:06] we have our legislative action day. So, you can come down and lobby with us at [8:10] the capitol. And then, uh, we've already got our summer conference on here. I [8:15] think we don't have a date set for that, but that's going to be in Owatana next [8:20] summer. So, getting to the recap, we can go to the next slide here. [8:27] um divided government brings low expectations. So uh here [8:33] um we had same as last year we had 6767 in the house, one seat majority for the [8:41] Democrats in the Senate. Uh I would say they exceeded my expectations actually [8:45] because they did pass quite a bit of legislation the final weekend of the [8:51] session. >> Uh those are were some of the major [8:54] issues. It's an election year. So, you know, uh with the shooting that happened [9:01] at enunciation and then assassinations, gun was a uh gun was a big issue and [9:07] school safety. Fraud of course is something that's been in the news for [9:11] quite a while now. Uh that was discussed a lot. They did pass some things, some [9:16] anti-fraud measures. Um HCMC, uh that hospital's had financial [9:22] problems for a while. They did pass a rescue package for uh that and then a [9:28] bonding bill. They did end up passing a bonding bill. Um it wasn't a budget [9:32] year, so typically they do budget year, bonding year, although it hasn't [9:37] necessarily always gone that way the last decade or so. So we can go to the [9:42] next one. Uh tasks for the session. So this was kind of our our priorities. [9:49] protect LGA, local government aid, which uh our members depend on, and to pass a [9:55] bonding bill, which includes all those local projects, including water and [9:59] wastewater projects uh that I understand you're probably going to be requesting [10:04] bonding money uh in the future for that. And then lead line funding, so lead uh [10:09] water service lines that go from the water the main up to the house. So those [10:15] are that's the that area. So, um, you know, that's been tricky, uh, to [10:21] replace. The EPA has said we've got to replace all those. Um, so that's one [10:26] thing that we're working on. And then resist zoning and, uh, uh, redemption [10:32] authority. Uh, sort of, um, there's always there's this effort to preempt [10:39] uh, local authority on zoning and land use. And so that was another thing that [10:42] we had to resist against. What were our tasks? The last one you uh forecast. So [10:50] you might remember last year February of 2025 there was a $6 billion deficit and [10:58] now in that second bianium that fiscal year 2829 and that's been reduced quite [11:04] a bit. We still have that imbalance. Um but the situation has improved [11:10] uh somewhat. Uh however, you know, if that structural [11:15] imbalance, which sometimes people say, what's the difference between that and a [11:19] deficit? Well, the the imbalance is just, you know, the difference between [11:23] the revenues coming in and the money going out. So, expenses going out. So, [11:29] you would have a deficit if that continues. And so, that was the budget [11:33] situation. We go to the next slide. Uh so, because because of that, you know, [11:38] there's still a challenge there. There wasn't a lot of talk of new spending [11:43] programs. Um, luckily there in 2025 there was a proposal to cut local [11:50] government aid. In 2026 we didn't see that. Um, so that was helpful. Um, and [11:56] then there was, you know, focus on bonding and policy kind of uh were the [12:02] were sort of the priorities. Go to the next one. So, bonding. Um, I [12:08] want to talk a little bit about some background on this. So, they did have a [12:14] bill in 2025 and we were worried for a while, you know, they there may not be [12:19] as much appetit appetite to do one again in 2026 since they did one in 2025. But, [12:24] um, luckily we did end up getting one done. Uh, there's what the governor had [12:30] proposed. So heavy on stateowned assets like uh state parks, the Minsk system, [12:36] the U of M system, uh state buildings, uh some some money [12:43] in there for capital security. Uh again with the uh assassination and [12:49] assassination attempts that took place. Uh there was they now have uh metal [12:56] detectors in the capital screen uh which is this the first time [13:02] they've ever had that and there's some funding in there for those sort of [13:06] things and then kind of help security and then public facilities authority. So [13:10] public facilities authority is of course the agency that funds all those water [13:16] and wastewater projects and the governor was proposing 99 million de [13:21] two and a half million for business development, public infrastructure. And [13:25] since I work in transportation, this was disappointing to me. I think this is the [13:30] second year in a row now that the governor's proposed nothing for local [13:33] roads and bridges and very little set aside for local projects. Last year they [13:39] did no local projects, local requests in the bonding bill. This year there were [13:45] quite a few. We go to the next slide. Here's some of our uh testimony in front [13:53] of committees on uh different bonding bills. Um we can go to the next one [14:00] there. Uh and so we did end up getting a pretty substantial bonding bill. Public [14:07] facilities authority ended up getting over 400 million. So four times more [14:12] than what the governor had proposed. That's good news because that takes, you [14:16] know, they'll be able to get that money out the door and reduce that backlog of [14:21] uh cities that are on that list for funding. Um so that's positive. And then [14:28] uh we ended up getting some money for local roads and local bridges, 25 [14:34] million and then 47 million for local roads, 25 million for so uh pretty big [14:40] bonding bill. 1.24 24 billion. That was about as high as they could go and stay [14:44] within the borrowing guidelines. And I think I hit my next one here. Uh yes. So [14:51] lead lines. I wanted to talk about this separately [14:55] just a little bit because we spent a lot of time on this and we're going to have [14:59] to spend more time on it. Um like I said, the Environmental Protection [15:04] Agency is mandating that everything needs to be removed by 2037. [15:09] Uh 240 million is what we originally got in 2023. Um but it's going to cost a a [15:16] lot more to identify and remove all those lines in the state. So I think 1.5 [15:22] billion approximately. So you can do the math over the next 10 years or so. You [15:25] know, we're going to need quite a bit. Um so we were asking for 250 million [15:31] this year. Um there's a link on there to an inventory map you can go on. Um [15:38] says U ofM, but it's like I think it's maybe a partnership with the U of M and [15:42] then the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency or um [15:49] the Department of Health, but you can look on there and you can see kind of [15:53] everything that they've inventoried around the state and what is left to be [15:57] inventoried. Um [16:01] so we ended up um with we don't get an an infusion of more money than like the [16:07] 2027 construction season is going to be threatened uh because there won't be [16:13] enough um funding to have a full you know fill up those work working months [16:20] in the summer when we can do that work. So we ended up with just 15 million this [16:26] year. Scroll down to the next one there. Thank you. [16:31] Uh so we've decided that rather than just ask for money in the bonding bill, [16:37] um we need to come up with an ongoing source of funding for this rather than [16:41] just rely on what the legislature chooses to revive and whether or not a [16:45] bonding bill passes. Um so that's something we're going to be [16:50] coming back again and working on again next year. [16:54] So, housing and zoning. Uh, this is one that just keeps coming back. Uh, they [17:01] keep sort of repackaging the proposal and giving it a new name. Uh, first it [17:07] was the missing middle then yes homes, now it's starter home act. Um, and so [17:14] this year I think they tried to provide a little bit more flexibility to local [17:19] governments to make it a little bit more palatable to us, but it's still way too [17:26] prescriptive and still uh is taking away too much of your ability to have [17:32] autonomy over kind of how you want to develop in your city. So that first [17:37] bullet there where it says preeemption of aesthetic and material standards, HOA [17:41] preeemption, uh, and require AV news or alternative dwelling units, that would [17:47] have applied to all cities um, even under 5,000. [17:54] That next set of bullets there would be cities over 5,000. You'd have to do you [18:00] could choose a third of an area that's zoned as single family and then you'd [18:06] have to allow up to four units, but you'd still have to upzone single [18:10] family, a third of what's currently single family up to four units. And then [18:16] minimum lot sizes no greater than an eighth. Uh and then multifamily [18:22] also in a third of area that's currently zoned as commercial. So you'd have to [18:28] allow that. use there. And then on the next slide, cities over 10,000 would [18:33] have to do even more. So what's included in that? Everything that's included on [18:38] that first slide, plus some additional items like parking minimums, additional [18:44] upzoning, a single family, you could choose a couple, you know, two or three [18:48] of those uh options. So still even more requirements there. [18:54] 20 that um and then We can scroll down to [18:59] the next one. Uh, so the League of Minnesota Cities, you know, they would [19:06] I'd say they they stopped lobbying against it actively, but they would say [19:10] they still opposed it. Uh, however, we continued to oppose it along with metro [19:15] cities and the municipal legislative commission, which I think is like 20 a [19:20] coalition of 20 cities, uh, suburban cities in the metro area. So luckily uh [19:27] it was defeated in a House committee vote. No hearing in the Senate. Uh [19:32] that's our executive director Bradley Peterson testifying against against the [19:38] uh legislation. And once again, we'll expect that this will come up again uh [19:44] because you'll have advocates uh proposing it. But we know that, you [19:48] know, zoning preeemption and the state coming in [19:52] telling you how to use land is not the, you know, silver bullet to fix housing [19:59] problems or economic problems. So, so there's a lot of other factors and so [20:04] that's not not the right solution. So, we'll be back again next year fighting [20:09] against it. So, looking ahead, uh, of course, election year, we got [20:16] primary coming up a week from today. Uh, all legislative seats on the ballot, [20:22] open governor's race. Uh, Amy Clolobashar, of course, is running on [20:26] the, uh, Democrat side. There's still there's a few Republicans running, so [20:31] we'll see who ends up getting nominated on the Republican side. All of Congress [20:36] is up. Um, there's a Senate seat up that's competitive primary on the [20:42] Democrat side. So, we'll see who gets the nomination there. Uh our candidate [20:48] packet, which I uh referred to earlier, is going to be available to all [20:52] candidates that are running for the legislature. We're going to be getting [20:55] that out to everybody. And then uh we're going to engage with [20:59] all those candidates, talk about our issues, and uh the session starts [21:04] January 14th next year. And so then I think I just have [21:11] Okay, I need to update that one. Yeah. So, that's that next one. Just a final [21:14] plug for our events. We can go to the last one and then uh of course that last [21:20] one we just missed, but we'll have our summer conference again next year so you [21:24] can make it next year. Thanks again for having me. Appreciate it. Um happy to [21:30] answer questions that you have. When are we going to start seeing a [21:35] little more force in I see a lot of comments about housing [21:41] » and that's a great thing but I don't see it in small towns enough. I don't see it [21:47] for senior living and I don't see it for low incomes enough. [21:53] our town here, we have seniors that have no place to go [22:00] » and this is becoming critical. This is not normal. This is we have people that [22:07] are lucky to have family to move in with. [22:12] » Yeah, it it's a it's a challenge. >> I mean, what can we do then? What can we [22:16] do? So, I mean, I think there's so there's [22:20] some there's housing infrastructure bonds that are available. Um, I think [22:24] some cities have have like uh housing redevelopment authorities that they that [22:30] they work with uh that are part of uh you know work with the city and then uh [22:37] also I think it's a you know it's a workforce issue too because you know [22:42] there isn't workforce uh there isn't jobs there isn't housing, you know, it's [22:48] tough to get developers to come in and build. And so, uh, it is a challenge. [22:54] Um, we've got some success stories. Uh, there's, uh, I know down in, uh, Canon [23:01] Falls, they've got a, they came and testified last year. Uh, they, uh, were [23:06] working, they're working with a developer and, uh, doing a development [23:10] right now. and I can get you in touch with uh one of my colleagues who works [23:16] on housing specifically and she's worked with the city of Canon Falls and she can [23:21] point you to some resources to work on uh trying to solve some of those [23:26] challenges. So happy to follow up with you on that too. [23:30] » Well, I'll be off console at the end of this year and I want to know who to push [23:34] buttons with when I'm gone. >> Okay. [23:38] » Because I have more power inside this council. [23:44] » Okay? >> Because I have people [23:48] when you look at seniors, I can tell you there's a lot of them [23:54] sitting around having coffee with me. And I you don't realize it till you [23:59] listen to them. We have people living on $7,000 a year. [24:06] I don't know a person in this room that can live on that. [24:14] That simple. And I don't hear anybody screaming about [24:18] it. I'm going to give you my card and um I [24:23] will follow up with you if you have email and I'll point I'm going to point [24:26] you to some some folks that you can talk to further and so then when you're off [24:30] the council you'll be able to you can come back and uh do some work from [24:35] outside of here too but definitely before the end of the year too of [24:39] course. >> Okay, thank you for the answer. [24:44] » Any other questions for me? Hearing [24:49] none. >> Great. Thank you, Darren. [24:50] » Thank you. Have a good meeting. >> Good presentation [24:54] for quickie. [25:01] » All right, moving into item number seven, department reports. We'll start [25:04] with uh Chief Katie McMillan of the police department. [25:07] » Um Mr. Mayor, members of the council, um not much tonight, just a stat report for [25:12] the month of July. We had 443 calls for service. Um, traffic enforcement was up. [25:20] A lot more increased traffic, people heading north with that. More traffic, [25:24] more accidents. So, you can see accidents are up. Um, the disturbing of [25:28] the piece was your fireworks calls and then assisting agency. The [25:33] county has been very busy and they have requested us on several occasions to [25:38] come out of the city to help them on their serious calls which they help they [25:43] come and cover help us on ours. So we pat their back, they pat ours. So um not [25:48] concerned with anything there. Um but that is all I have. Back to school is [25:56] uh September 8th, so we'll be busy at school. Other than that, that is all I [26:02] have. Unless you have something for me. >> Your traffic stops at a lot of speed. [26:08] » Yep. It's a mixture. Speed, um, stop signs. We've been a lot of stop signs [26:12] lately. So, >> see, it's up quite a bit, which is good. [26:16] You're doing job. I do have some a question about there's [26:22] a difference between an ebike electric bike speedwise [26:27] driving where you drive, how fast you drive, wear a helmet. We have some young [26:34] people [26:38] really moving. >> Yep. Oh, ebike and electric bike are the [26:41] same thing. Um so with that they cannot be on electric bike if it they have to [26:47] be or a scooter I believe it's 15 and under they cannot um there was a thing [26:53] on our Facebook post that I posted a few months ago um that divides it out very [26:58] easily and there is a speed limit on it. We have stops several of them for going [27:03] through the stop signs because they have to abide by the traffic laws just like [27:07] you do on a bicycle. stop at stop signs and stay on the right side of the road. [27:12] They have to do all that. Um, so we have been stopping people for that, too. So, [27:17] » thank you. >> Yep. [27:22] » Anything else? >> Great. Moving on to city engineer Jared [27:27] Griffith. >> Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of [27:29] council. Um, tonight I have two action items for your consideration. Um, and [27:34] then an update on routes and construction projects. So I'll start [27:37] with the action items. Uh first being pay application number 11 for the 2025 [27:42] uh north side improvements project. Uh essentially this pay app uh represents [27:47] 101.67% of the of the project work certified to [27:52] date is 5,114,27586. [27:58] Um payout request is $211,8483. [28:05] This is basically um all all of all of $7,000 of it is is [28:12] just reducing the retainage on the north side project from five down to 1%. [28:17] Still holding a $51,000 on the north side. So any questions on [28:24] the north side in particular or they haven't [28:29] » punch list items have been taken care of. [28:31] » Uh the reason why we're holding some u retain because items aren't taken [28:37] issues and then um some other minor I don't say minor but other items that are [28:42] smaller >> and those will be [28:48] » um there's some pavers that uh that need to be installed on Third Avenue. Um [28:56] I believe there are bunch more [29:07] projection on when it'll be all done >> when the when the punches will be done [29:11] or when we'll be closing the project out. [29:13] » Closing the project and the punch list. >> Punch list should be I would that would [29:18] be in the next couple months here as far as punch [29:21] conservative I would think. Um but then close out we'll probably bring the final [29:25] pay in [29:29] October, November. It takes takes a while. That's all just behind the scenes [29:33] paperwork that works. [29:48] Okay. Looking for motion on pay number 11 for the 2025 [29:56] North to approve pay number 11. [30:05] Second. >> All right. Motion made and seconded. Any [30:10] further discussion? In favor? I. I. Oppose. Same sign. Motion carries. [30:17] » Thank you. Uh the second action item is is a pay number six for the 1.5 lead [30:21] service project. Um the payout that was submitted to the packet last week. We [30:26] had a reision that was that came in today. essentially this is no change in [30:31] the construction work itself but just updating um the 1% retage up to a 5% um [30:37] based up the main purchase items that came to light here in last. So um we [30:43] work for P number six. Uh this represents roughly 77.19% [30:51] of the project. Um certified to date is $278,886. [31:01] Your pay request amount for this number 6 is 23,399. [31:10] As I mentioned before, there's a 5% on this which represents [31:16] $13,944. [31:20] » Yeah. Thank you. I I appreciate the uh retainage uh revision uh making sure [31:27] that we're holding them accountable to the project as as uh needed to be [31:32] completed. Um that being said, I will um make a motion to approve pay application [31:39] number six, 2025 lead service as the revised amount with 5% retainage. [31:46] » I'll second. >> Motion made and seconded. Any further [31:50] discussion? Uh, one thing, Jared, um, line of communication with the people [31:54] doing it is, uh, awesome. I've had communication with the people there, and [31:59] they get back to you in a timely manner on the lead line services. [32:04] » The 2026 project, correct? The one that your property's on, I assume. [32:09] » Uh, other people's, too. >> Oh, okay. [32:12] » That we're doing. Yeah. Um, good line of communication. I like it. [32:16] » We'll pass that on to them. It's always good to hear working with [32:20] these services, you know, 100% on pretty close 100% on private property. So, it's [32:26] always nice if the residents that are being involved in this. [32:32] » Good. Any other discussion? In favor, I [32:37] » post same sign. Motion carries. >> Uh, and then just quick update on where [32:42] we're at with the active construction projects. We kind of touched a little [32:44] bit on 1.5 projects. Um so if there's any there's any more question 26 uh 226 [32:50] lead service project started this week. Um they are starting a little slower [32:55] than anticipated. Um they're working out their kinks as far as their system but [32:59] they're going to rear up here shortly. Um they've done two in the last they [33:04] started Monday. They did one on Monday, one on yesterday. Um but things [33:10] they're all pointing the right direction things looked out and moving forward. I [33:16] anticipate those I don't know if we will be [33:22] I don't know if we will be complet substantially completed by our special [33:26] completion date but I will be final completed by our completion as far as [33:31] the services which is I think substantial is September 4th and then [33:37] final is October first week whatever that Friday [33:43] um They are they are in town starting this [33:47] week and they're going to be moving [33:51] direction. Um any questions on the 2026 west? [34:00] Uh 126 South Estates project. Uh that one started last week as far as open [34:06] cutting that they started a trunk sanitary sewer. um soils were a little [34:12] more challenging than anticipated as far as the stability of those soils. Uh so [34:17] they kind of halted what they were doing last week, did a revision on what they [34:21] were planning to do for the shoring system that's in place. We're trying to [34:23] affect that force wind um that we're kind of running parallel with for the [34:28] most part for that deep 32 inch or sorry 32 foot deep sanitary sewer. Um so they [34:34] rented a different shoring system essentially. Um they have they brought [34:37] that on site today. I believe they started installing that today. So [34:41] hopefully as we progress through the week they'll get going again on on that [34:44] that deeper sanitary screw gravity. Um and so we haven't there's not much to [34:49] report from a progress standpoint but they are on site working through that. [34:54] So any questions on the south side. >> So what's the completion look like for [35:01] the end of the year? That should all be installed. [35:04] » Correct. Yeah. Right now there isn't have any any issues that will lead to us [35:09] adjusting our this year completion. Yeah this year I think [35:19] » great thank you. [clears throat] >> Thank you [35:21] » and uh appreciate your support at the Fol Area Chamber uh golf outing. Uh we [35:27] raised a ton of money. So thank you. [35:34] Public works and fire director Mark Pus. [35:40] Good evening. Uh we had brought up last month the Fifth Avenue possible overlay [35:45] down by the county. We met again last Wednesday. I think we're getting numbers [35:50] together to get part of the pricing. So really we don't have a lot to tell you. [35:56] till we get final numbers. We still plan on doing it this year, but we want final [36:00] numbers to commit to commit. Make sure it's going to come in with what we [36:05] expect. So, I think you turn them in today. [36:09] » Are you going to or tomorrow? >> Yep. [36:10] » Yeah. So, we'll get to the county. They'll get them back. Plan is this year [36:15] school and county are having discussions about the parking lot to the west of the [36:19] building. That's where this all kind of originated. They want to put park in [36:21] there to the south. Um in Maine. They still plan on doing some [36:27] parking as whether they can come to an agreement with the school. I don't know [36:31] what happened last night. So, we'll have more maybe in two weeks, maybe in four [36:36] weeks. >> Okay. [36:39] » The hope is to do it this year yet. Obviously, we know they want to have the [36:42] building done by right after the first year with the early next year occupancy. [36:49] » So, that on that. Another thing that came out of that last couple meetings is [36:54] asking about a deduct meter for sprinklers on public buildings. [37:00] Um, [37:04] we'll have to have a discussion on it. I don't know if we want to start. We [37:07] haven't had much in-house discussion. [37:12] What do we, you know, look at for public and buildings or we have it on the [37:18] summer months on the residential [37:23] um public? It's going to come up. I don't obviously we're not going to make [37:27] a decision tonight, but just want to let you know they've been asking the [37:30] question about doing that. So, did you take anything else out of it [37:34] » other than that? Not really. Right. >> Um, not really. Is everyone aware of me? [37:41] » You don't pay what we're doing right now. [37:44] » So, similar to our water [37:48] primarily to sprinkling, >> it would only be for yard sprinkling. [37:53] Yeah. >> Or, you know, or non sewer stuff. [37:57] » And it' be if we do it, it's going to be 100% their cost, neither included. [38:03] So, more we're going to react to. Okay. [38:14] » Okay. Any questions for public works or fire? [38:21] Great. Thanks, Mark. Moving on to old business. [38:28] Hearing none. New business. [38:33] Hearing none. Entertain a motion to adjurnn. [38:37] » I'll make a motion to adjurnn. Second. >> Motion is made and seconded. Any further [38:41] discussion? In favor? I. I. Post. Same sign. Motion carries. Meeting adjourned. [38:46] Thank you. [38:53] » Don't like that idea.