1 00:00:01,390 --> 00:00:05,510 Good evening everyone, I'd like to call or this special budget session of the Final Exity Council. 2 00:00:06,070 --> 00:00:14,830 First, I would like to visit this is roll call with all of us present. I would like to thank the Chair, Quorum, President. Next on our agenda is the pledge of allegiance and a moment for some reflection. Please rise at this time. 3 00:00:14,830 --> 00:00:15,330 to 4 00:00:21,410 --> 00:00:27,130 the flag on the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands, 5 00:00:27,370 --> 00:00:32,470 on the nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 6 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:49,020 Thanks everyone. 7 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,960 Next on our agenda tonight is the 2027 budget and capital improvement plan overview. 8 00:00:54,340 --> 00:00:58,640 We're going to begin tonight with the process for budget approval and our city manager, Mr. 9 00:00:58,700 --> 00:01:01,680 Moore, and our Director of Administration, Ms. Dave, you have that presentation for us. 10 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:02,100 Good evening. 11 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,060 Thank you, Mr. Highsler, Mr. President, good evening everybody. 12 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:13,680 What we're going to start with first is our timeline from here till the first meeting in November 13 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:19,080 when we will hope to convert the proposed budget to the approved one and the same for the 14 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:19,380 CIP. 15 00:01:20,460 --> 00:01:21,720 So, where do we go from here? 16 00:01:22,500 --> 00:01:28,900 The first week of October we will publish the public hearing notices in the newspapers 17 00:01:29,500 --> 00:01:34,580 because that's a statutory requirement to advise the public that there's a public hearing. 18 00:01:34,580 --> 00:01:41,080 The public hearing is the second meeting in October, October 28th. 19 00:01:42,420 --> 00:01:47,080 Then the first meeting in November, so you've got the public hearing last meeting in October, 20 00:01:48,820 --> 00:01:54,140 the first meeting in November, we will bring the CIP, the budget, 21 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,240 the tax-level resolution to you for approval on that night. 22 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:05,100 So, that's essentially where we go from here and why tonight's important, right? 23 00:02:05,100 --> 00:02:10,300 Because tonight, if there are any loose ends, we tie those down, want to make sure we've 24 00:02:10,300 --> 00:02:15,480 got all that straight before we publish the public notice to the public. 25 00:02:16,100 --> 00:02:23,620 Now, Mr. President, when we begin the next phase of this, what we've done and Trisha 26 00:02:23,620 --> 00:02:29,700 Davey's going to narrate this, is we've taken in questions that are both budget questions 27 00:02:29,700 --> 00:02:36,000 and CIP questions, so the agenda's got a distinct difference, but if you don't mind, 28 00:02:36,180 --> 00:02:40,800 we've just blended them together based on the questions in the way they were formatted. 29 00:02:41,140 --> 00:02:41,660 No problem at all. 30 00:02:43,140 --> 00:02:45,360 So with that, I'm going to hand it over to Trisha, Davey. 31 00:02:46,060 --> 00:02:46,540 Thank you. 32 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:47,300 Take you. 33 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:47,900 Next slide. 34 00:02:50,090 --> 00:02:54,270 So Joe and I will go through the questions that we've received from the council so far, and then 35 00:02:54,270 --> 00:02:59,490 after that, we'll open it up for other just general questions, comments or any follow-up that you would like on these. 36 00:02:59,910 --> 00:03:06,550 I did list the page numbers on each of these so that you can flip to the pages right now if you'd like to or just use these for reference after the fact. 37 00:03:08,110 --> 00:03:11,990 So our first question, what was the reason for the expenditure increases for the City Manager budget? 38 00:03:12,930 --> 00:03:23,030 It was normal wage increases. In 2026, our budget did not reflect the City Manager wage increase, so the 2027 budget just reflects the correction of the wages for 26 and 27. 39 00:03:23,030 --> 00:03:25,610 And that was just an oversight in 2026. 40 00:03:26,130 --> 00:03:29,790 Mr. Board did indeed get a race for 2026, so that's all good. 41 00:03:30,250 --> 00:03:33,190 And then also, increased two materials and supplies 42 00:03:33,190 --> 00:03:35,710 for repairs to furniture, blinds, and walls. 43 00:03:36,170 --> 00:03:37,450 There's some things up on the fourth floor 44 00:03:37,450 --> 00:03:39,750 and the conference room and stuff that need a little TLC. 45 00:03:40,150 --> 00:03:42,850 So that's some money to take care of those. 46 00:03:43,230 --> 00:03:45,210 Question two, was there a change or addition 47 00:03:45,210 --> 00:03:46,310 of personnel and controllers? 48 00:03:46,590 --> 00:03:50,330 The increase from 2026 to 2027 was about $75,000. 49 00:03:51,450 --> 00:03:52,850 There was four reasons for that. 50 00:03:52,850 --> 00:03:56,130 the first is just normal wage and step increases for the staff. 51 00:03:56,950 --> 00:03:59,690 There was a change in the mix of single and family health insurance 52 00:03:59,690 --> 00:04:02,830 coverages and just for reference that difference between the two is about 53 00:04:02,830 --> 00:04:03,750 $17,000. 54 00:04:04,590 --> 00:04:07,150 So when employee has single and they switch to family, 55 00:04:07,410 --> 00:04:09,650 you know that's an additional $17,000 cost. 56 00:04:10,630 --> 00:04:13,850 We are adding would like to add a short term season employee to assist us 57 00:04:13,850 --> 00:04:15,510 with delinquent ambulance collections. 58 00:04:16,190 --> 00:04:22,390 We do have a third party processor that prepares all the 59 00:04:22,390 --> 00:04:27,170 collections from Medicare and Insurance and Private Pay, but at some point when they can no longer 60 00:04:27,170 --> 00:04:31,170 collect on those invoices that may send them back to us to try to do some collections on them. 61 00:04:32,090 --> 00:04:36,110 And then the fourth item was for the promotion of Senior Accountant to Deputy Director of Administration 62 00:04:36,110 --> 00:04:39,050 for Tessa. Next slide. 63 00:04:44,900 --> 00:04:47,560 Was there a change or addition of personnel and central collections? 64 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:54,160 The increase from 2026 to 2027 was about $29,000. Again, that's normal step in wage increases 65 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,420 and that department also had a change in their mix of single-to-family health insurance coverage. 66 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:06,140 That was the reason for those increases. Next question, was the increase in snow and ice removal 67 00:05:06,140 --> 00:05:11,800 cost, all material driven, and is the salt burner going to be able to assist with that? So yes, 68 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:17,480 the cost increase in that budget was all material driven. We do use the state DOT contract for 69 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:22,540 salt pricing. So we're kind of at the mercy of what those contract prices are from those vendors. The 70 00:05:22,540 --> 00:05:27,420 briner will help us reduce our needs to purchase brine from external sources and will be able to allow 71 00:05:27,420 --> 00:05:29,400 us to help reduce our salt needs. 72 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,040 And this is expected to have a positive budget impact in 2028. 73 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,280 Once we have the salt briner in place, and we can create our own brine, and then adjust 74 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:39,620 our salt needs from there. 75 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:40,760 Next slide. 76 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,960 Can you explain the reason for the increase in community development, personal services, and 77 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,480 the decrease in contractual services, when compared to estimated actuals? 78 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,620 So as we know in 2026, we had a vacancy for the community development director and principal 79 00:05:55,620 --> 00:06:00,800 planter for about six months, so we had hired an outside consultant to assist with those operations 80 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,240 until the positions were filled. 81 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,540 So if you look at our estimated axles for community development, they were higher for 82 00:06:06,540 --> 00:06:11,420 2026 to reflect that, and then for 2027 it's backed down to the normal range. 83 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,520 And if you compare 2027 budget to the 2026 budget, they're right in line with just the normal 84 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,840 wage and salary increases and just minor operational increases. 85 00:06:21,500 --> 00:06:26,260 Next question, what was the reason for the $100,000 decrease in personal services and inspections? 86 00:06:27,260 --> 00:06:31,260 So, again, some change in the mix of family versus in this case, wave health insurance coverages. 87 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,720 That difference is about $26,000 for a certain play. 88 00:06:36,300 --> 00:06:39,760 And then we have a temporary reduction in hours to accommodate some employee retention 89 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,840 without sacrificing inspection services to the community. 90 00:06:43,780 --> 00:06:45,940 And so far that has been working just fine. 91 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:47,460 Next slide. 92 00:06:47,460 --> 00:06:48,180 How 93 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,880 have the county sales tax funds been allocated? 94 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,100 So these funds we get from the county once a year is part of their calculation of the sales 95 00:06:58,100 --> 00:06:59,200 tax that they collect. 96 00:06:59,620 --> 00:07:03,420 They have a formula that they used to distribute that to all the municipalities within the county. 97 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:09,160 And with our share, we are going to allocate $54,000 for an ongoing subsidy to our 98 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:09,960 Tid number 13. 99 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,380 We've been doing that for a number of years so that we don't have to use tax lobby for that. 100 00:07:14,780 --> 00:07:18,940 We have another $25,000 investment for homelessness, homelessness initiatives. 101 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,320 $50,000 for maintenance and painting of the big black train at the entrance to Lake Side Park. 102 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:25,740 That's in the need of some TLC. 103 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,920 $65,000 for thermal imaging cameras for fire rescue. 104 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,960 $25,000 for historic signs for various parks and then $38,000 for copyright lease contracts. 105 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:42,860 So we try to use these funds every year for one time purchases so that we don't have to rely on this income or this allocation every year from the county. 106 00:07:43,300 --> 00:07:47,180 And it still allows us to take care of some things that need to be taken care of. 107 00:07:47,180 --> 00:07:48,520 Next slide. 108 00:07:50,340 --> 00:07:52,580 Highlights of any fee schedule changes. 109 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,160 We really don't have many fee schedule changes this year. 110 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:02,600 The one probably that would be the most notable is we're continuing our incremental increase in boat slips fees by 50 cents a foot. 111 00:08:02,860 --> 00:08:08,900 We've been doing that for the last few years to bring our boat slip fees in line with what other areas in the 112 00:08:08,900 --> 00:08:11,260 or other communities in the area charge for theirs. 113 00:08:14,460 --> 00:08:15,300 Next slide. 114 00:08:17,140 --> 00:08:20,940 I was the placeholder $9 million figure for fire station number four derived 115 00:08:20,940 --> 00:08:23,100 And when do you think we'll have a more accurate number? 116 00:08:23,980 --> 00:08:30,680 So the figure is based upon a cost estimate that we had received from the consultant that did our feasibility study in 2025. 117 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,620 And then we've adjusted that because we know that costs are going to go up from the time that that figure was prepared 118 00:08:35,620 --> 00:08:38,060 to when we're actually going to start construction on that. 119 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:49,100 We do anticipate once the designer architect gets rolling and puts all their specs together that we will be able to get a firm or number sometime in mid summer of 2027 to make sure that that's an alignment with what we have in our budget. 120 00:08:50,620 --> 00:08:55,000 Next question, how was the figure for Macy important when parking ramp repairs derived? 121 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,920 So this is an engineering estimate we had been working with a consultant to develop a ramp maintenance study for us. 122 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,520 So that study has been completed. 123 00:09:03,780 --> 00:09:07,380 Julian has had a chance to go through that and figure out what the priorities are. 124 00:09:07,620 --> 00:09:14,000 So we've programmed some money in 2027 so we really kick that off in and make some of the more important repairs that need to be done. 125 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,400 and get those taken care of as soon as we can. 126 00:09:16,940 --> 00:09:18,680 And we will not issue debt for this 127 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:20,720 until we actually get those contracts figured out 128 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,080 and see what those bid prices coming in it. 129 00:09:24,420 --> 00:09:25,200 Next question. 130 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,840 What can we give an overview of the work 131 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,760 that's going to be done on County VV. 132 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,120 So we're gonna have some improved lane configurations 133 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,700 at South Main Street, new traffic signals 134 00:09:35,700 --> 00:09:37,540 and a roundabout at South Park Avenue, 135 00:09:38,180 --> 00:09:40,380 as well as sidewalks and an off street bike path 136 00:09:40,380 --> 00:09:43,300 we're feasible in the right away during that stretch 137 00:09:43,300 --> 00:09:44,260 of Coney BB. 138 00:09:46,470 --> 00:09:51,050 Next question, what planned street projects are included for 2027? We have East 139 00:09:51,050 --> 00:09:55,270 Division Street, the one that everybody's been waiting for, Mark's Park. We have Bischoff 140 00:09:55,270 --> 00:09:59,870 from Mohawk to Taft. We have Vine from 11th to 10th Lawrence. 141 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,940 For marshal distell, and then Primeral is in pine tree, south of Fort Street. 142 00:10:08,110 --> 00:10:08,630 Next slide. 143 00:10:09,430 --> 00:10:12,790 Will that wraps up the ones I wanted to cover? I will turn it over to Ms. Moore. 144 00:10:13,190 --> 00:10:23,470 Thank you, Trisha. First one's about the continuation of housing facilitation. This 2027 will be year number four. 145 00:10:24,610 --> 00:10:28,670 But we don't have anything programmed for 2028 specifically. 146 00:10:28,670 --> 00:10:34,790 What we've done enough now that there are enough lots being developed, or in the pipeline 147 00:10:34,790 --> 00:10:40,610 to be developed, that now we need to take a moment and see what the demand is. 148 00:10:41,150 --> 00:10:44,410 And whether or not we need to keep pushing as hard as we have been. 149 00:10:44,670 --> 00:10:49,970 And also to hear from the developers to see what they're seeing for demand and whether or 150 00:10:49,970 --> 00:10:56,050 not it's reasonable to continue in 2021 or to take a pause that year. 151 00:10:56,050 --> 00:11:03,470 The next question is about funding for housing investments in Hunters Grove. 152 00:11:04,070 --> 00:11:12,890 You'll recall that we have won the break of finalizing a development agreement with a company 153 00:11:12,890 --> 00:11:16,230 that's going to build single family homes out there. 154 00:11:16,270 --> 00:11:24,190 Phase one, we talked about earlier, the summer phase two is in the CIP, but given where we are 155 00:11:24,190 --> 00:11:31,290 on the calendar right now, approaching October, not expecting there to be any progress on phase 156 00:11:31,290 --> 00:11:41,210 one till sometime in 2027. I doubt that we will see phase two in 2027. So again, like 157 00:11:41,210 --> 00:11:48,230 Trisha referenced the parking ramps, there won't be any money expended or any debt taken 158 00:11:48,230 --> 00:11:51,010 on until we know that for sure. 159 00:11:51,530 --> 00:11:52,070 Next, please. 160 00:11:55,420 --> 00:12:00,640 Obviously, we had some questions about flock from you and from the public. 161 00:12:01,660 --> 00:12:07,860 And so what we are right now, we don't have any money in the budget in 2027 for any 162 00:12:07,860 --> 00:12:14,900 licensed plate readers, and what we will use 2027 for, and then the time after that, is to determine 163 00:12:14,900 --> 00:12:20,780 what's out there that might work for us, in terms of our comfort with data storage, 164 00:12:20,780 --> 00:12:24,700 data release, et cetera, dog park. 165 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:32,200 We had a request to begin a conversation about a dog park for the east side of the city. 166 00:12:33,300 --> 00:12:39,340 And so what we'd like to do with that is before putting anything in the budget, essentially 167 00:12:39,340 --> 00:12:44,540 commit to you that we're going to put that in the pipeline with a poll to raise in public 168 00:12:44,540 --> 00:12:52,360 work, John Redman, and the Park Board to start that conversation to really engage the public 169 00:12:53,020 --> 00:12:59,260 to also look at different lots that might be available for such a dog park. 170 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,560 And to find out what the demand is and where it would be best served. 171 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,740 And so I would expect it to unfold in 2027. 172 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:12,660 And then we would find a home for it in 2028, if that's satisfactory. 173 00:13:16,190 --> 00:13:20,190 So those were the questions that we got from you. 174 00:13:20,250 --> 00:13:23,870 Some of those questions were also asked by members of the public, 175 00:13:24,270 --> 00:13:25,990 the last couple, especially. 176 00:13:27,090 --> 00:13:30,390 And so, you know, with that, Mr. President, turn it back over to you. 177 00:13:30,650 --> 00:13:33,810 That covers all the questions for the budget and the CIP. 178 00:13:34,270 --> 00:13:35,790 Excellent. Thank you very much, Mr. Moore. 179 00:13:35,890 --> 00:13:37,770 You're welcome. It's David. You appreciate you both very much. 180 00:13:38,690 --> 00:13:43,970 So how I think we should proceed, Council, is we should kind of follow 181 00:13:43,970 --> 00:13:49,290 the sheet that's in front of you and what we'll do is discuss the budget first but at 182 00:13:49,290 --> 00:13:54,390 this point if there are questions from council we'll take those then after that we'll 183 00:13:54,390 --> 00:13:59,930 look through motions for the budget and then after that we'll go to the CIP okay so we're 184 00:13:59,930 --> 00:14:04,710 going to we'll begin tonight with questions from council on the budget and one more housekeeping 185 00:14:04,710 --> 00:14:09,330 note before we push our buttons to speak just as a reminder everybody gets a couple of chances 186 00:14:09,330 --> 00:14:13,810 to speak per item so just as a reminder on that so please group as many of your 187 00:14:13,810 --> 00:14:19,930 questions together as possible. So maybe we can spark some more thought without having to jump back and forth in the queue. 188 00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:24,790 So I'll open it up for questions on the budget at this time from council. 189 00:14:30,060 --> 00:14:31,880 This is for all you in the queue first tonight. 190 00:14:34,020 --> 00:14:35,280 I would like a little closer for me. 191 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,740 I raised to it. Sorry. 192 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,700 First of all, thank you for the answer. 193 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,760 All the questions I fired off some last minute this afternoon and got an answer right away. 194 00:14:43,980 --> 00:14:47,480 So thank you for being very responsive to all of that. 195 00:14:48,020 --> 00:14:58,100 And I always ask about the county sales tax page because there's always a lot there, and I think it's nice to have that kind of fleshed out a little bit. 196 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:59,980 So my one question on that is the 20th. 197 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,600 5,000 dollars that will be allocated to support initiatives, targeting homelessness could we get a little 198 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:12,560 more detail on that please. We think our partner in 2026, which has been advocate, has been a good 199 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:18,840 partnership, so we would, I think we will probably continue that in 2027 if that works for them. 200 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:26,300 Wonderful. Thank you. That's all I had. All right. Thank you, Ms. Pral. Other questions, comments from council? I'll 201 00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:27,400 Mr. Bibernext. 202 00:15:29,220 --> 00:15:29,800 Thank you. 203 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,280 Just make sure the process to when you're wanting questions together. 204 00:15:33,940 --> 00:15:37,700 We're going through the budget and then trying to group the questions there. 205 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,840 Ask as many of your budget questions as we in this section and then after that we'll go to the CIP after that. 206 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:43,620 We'll go through it. 207 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,120 You'll lead that through. 208 00:15:46,060 --> 00:15:46,220 Correct. 209 00:15:47,260 --> 00:15:49,580 I had with the community development. 210 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:55,020 Do we have a succession for so many big ones where we don't have to hire out? 211 00:15:55,020 --> 00:15:59,580 and place for some of the different ones where next. 212 00:16:00,660 --> 00:16:01,740 Sitting too much left. 213 00:16:03,610 --> 00:16:08,090 Jules is here for the long term, so that fills that need. 214 00:16:08,410 --> 00:16:11,430 We needed to hire that company that we brought in, 215 00:16:11,510 --> 00:16:13,110 who did great workforce, by the way. 216 00:16:13,710 --> 00:16:14,090 I don't know. 217 00:16:14,090 --> 00:16:15,630 I don't know, but I think. 218 00:16:15,950 --> 00:16:19,150 Because we didn't know, we've been advised by the recruiting firm 219 00:16:19,150 --> 00:16:21,070 that this was going to be hard to fill. 220 00:16:21,730 --> 00:16:24,990 And not to think we were going to turn that around. 221 00:16:24,990 --> 00:16:31,390 in a hurry. And so that's why we heard that consultant to essentially sit upstairs. I mean they were 222 00:16:31,390 --> 00:16:37,490 here on site for a couple of three days a week sometimes. I mean like a lot of spots have like 223 00:16:37,490 --> 00:16:42,450 chief assistant chief assistant chief. Is that something similar with that where you'd have an 224 00:16:42,450 --> 00:16:47,250 engineer behind it? I'm just trying to get you said by. No, community developments pretty lean. 225 00:16:47,810 --> 00:16:54,510 Okay. And typically we wouldn't think of the planer which is a position in community development 226 00:16:54,510 --> 00:17:02,110 as the deputy that those two they might look that way but that's not really how it's 227 00:17:02,110 --> 00:17:07,010 organized. The directors carries a lot of responsibilities without having a number two. 228 00:17:09,030 --> 00:17:14,030 Probably some of the other positions too. I hope there's some succession if someone something 229 00:17:14,030 --> 00:17:18,590 got forbid happens to them or they decide to retire. Some of the bigger positions I'm hoping 230 00:17:18,590 --> 00:17:26,650 at some of that's covered, as well I guess with Deputy, I'm moving her attest to, that's a good 231 00:17:26,650 --> 00:17:33,710 example of that proper way to do it. Yeah and all the other departments have that arrangement 232 00:17:33,710 --> 00:17:40,190 where there's an assistant city attorney, a deputy, comptroller, et cetera, assistant chiefs, 233 00:17:40,870 --> 00:17:46,450 a community development is the one lean one. Okay, it doesn't have that arrangement. All right, thank you. 234 00:17:53,530 --> 00:18:04,130 I just want to say the budget looks great, you know, the two things that I would have 235 00:18:04,130 --> 00:18:09,350 liked to have seen just a little bit more money on, but it looks great and thank you for 236 00:18:09,350 --> 00:18:10,990 answering my questions today. 237 00:18:11,430 --> 00:18:15,290 Thank you for spending that time with me, Trisha and Joe. 238 00:18:15,290 --> 00:18:15,810 there. 239 00:18:19,140 --> 00:18:32,840 Thank you. Anyone else in the queue? I see no one else at this point so without any further questions from council I at this point would entertain any motions if there are any to change the budget. 240 00:18:38,020 --> 00:18:40,600 I'm just looking in the public work street. 241 00:18:40,860 --> 00:18:48,920 You have the Hickory Bridge Paul later on and where is for the street north of the bridge? 242 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:50,840 Is that in one of general ones? 243 00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:51,600 Great mate. 244 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,020 I'm not talking in the back. 245 00:18:53,980 --> 00:18:56,120 It's stuck here. 246 00:18:56,780 --> 00:18:58,960 Mr. Vibert, what page are you looking at? 247 00:18:59,280 --> 00:18:59,940 That'll help us. 248 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:02,680 I'm looking at the Capital Improvement Plan number 11. 249 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:03,720 He's in the CIP now. 250 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:03,940 Okay. 251 00:19:03,940 --> 00:19:13,780 not the budget yet. Oh, sorry. That's all right. That's a good. Well hang on to that question for me for justice. No problem. And then what we'll do is we'll we'll we'll let Paul come back to that in a second. 252 00:19:15,140 --> 00:19:20,660 Before before we want to see a piece up though, any other motions for the budget at this point. 253 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:27,520 Going once going twice sold of the guy in the red pole. I'm just I'm just kidding. We're good. 254 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:37,260 Yeah, that's right, perfect, all right, now at this point I'm going to jump back, let 255 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:40,540 you jump back in Mr. Biber and have your question about the CIP because that's where we're 256 00:19:40,540 --> 00:19:41,240 going to go next. 257 00:19:41,860 --> 00:19:42,060 Yep. 258 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,140 Thank you. 259 00:19:43,180 --> 00:19:49,360 Yeah, the question we'll go back to here at page 11, I see one specifically for, we had talked 260 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:54,920 before a couple of months ago with Paul and I, and with that was going to be looking to 261 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,620 a plan in 28 and 29, 29 being the bridge, I think, in 28. 262 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:24,360 So you're going to have the hickory street have to do all the infrastructure below it and the road itself redone. Is that in there or I'm not, I just make so that would be covered under our clear water elimination program, which involves a couple different items in the CIP, one being from wastewater, one being from streets and one being from storm. 263 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:33,720 And so those are combined to get our annual street program, which the streets listed in the presentation, 264 00:20:34,740 --> 00:20:39,320 that's Hickory Street will be listed next year on that list where you saw a division, 265 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,020 Bishop and those others. 266 00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:51,820 So Hickory from Johnson down the division will be in 28, and then in 29, we will do the rest from division to the bridge, 267 00:20:51,820 --> 00:20:54,740 Okay, along with the bridge, which will be in 29. 268 00:20:55,380 --> 00:20:55,820 Okay, got it. 269 00:20:56,580 --> 00:20:58,980 Up to the division street and then south of that. 270 00:20:59,660 --> 00:21:00,020 Very right. 271 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:00,500 All right, good. 272 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,560 Thank you. 273 00:21:03,750 --> 00:21:04,330 Thank you, sir. 274 00:21:04,590 --> 00:21:05,150 Thank you, Paul. 275 00:21:06,010 --> 00:21:10,190 Any further questions from council on CIP related items? 276 00:21:10,930 --> 00:21:12,550 I'll take those at this time. 277 00:21:23,710 --> 00:21:24,830 Everybody good? 278 00:21:25,690 --> 00:21:29,970 Here's that way because we have no one else in the queue, which is that works for me. 279 00:21:29,970 --> 00:21:37,210 Are there other motions at this time to do anything in the CIP, Mr. Moore, if you want to jump in, go ahead? 280 00:21:37,910 --> 00:21:57,310 When you've completed that, I'd be interested in hearing the feedback from you because we're always trying to improve and do better about how you are able to digest what we provided throughout the summer and whether or not there's any room for improvement there. 281 00:21:57,310 --> 00:22:01,910 And then the second one is, when you read the intro memos for the budget in the CIP, 282 00:22:02,410 --> 00:22:05,470 if you see any room for improvement there, too. 283 00:22:06,010 --> 00:22:11,470 So since we're all together, I thought it would be useful, but maybe after you're CIP. 284 00:22:11,610 --> 00:22:11,970 Absolutely. 285 00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:15,410 We can certainly do that before we adjourn for sure. 286 00:22:16,470 --> 00:22:16,670 Okay. 287 00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:23,550 So at this point, is there any discussion or questions on the CIP specifically? 288 00:22:24,090 --> 00:22:25,590 Anybody wants to jump in the queue for that? 289 00:22:25,770 --> 00:22:26,290 Go ahead. 290 00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:41,670 I forgot to look at something actually, and I, so I'm going to ask about it. 291 00:22:43,550 --> 00:22:48,720 So there was, so with the acute crisis center, 292 00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:55,930 you know, closing, there's a need for an extra worker. 293 00:22:57,370 --> 00:22:59,590 Is that something, is that, is that in the budget, 294 00:22:59,590 --> 00:23:04,630 are we considering assisting with that? 295 00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:12,430 No, I, as we sit here tonight and chief jump in, I think that's a county responsibility. 296 00:23:12,650 --> 00:23:19,290 I think that what the city property owners are paying in terms of the county part of the 297 00:23:19,290 --> 00:23:23,150 levy is in support of that. 298 00:23:23,930 --> 00:23:26,690 But chief, I'll let you jump in and comment. 299 00:23:28,210 --> 00:23:35,410 Yeah, for the you're talking about on the county side, they call it a clinical therapist, and that was in the resolution last night, 300 00:23:35,550 --> 00:23:39,350 and I didn't see the outcome of the county board supervisor's meeting. 301 00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:48,930 But when you look at that position and how state statute is that position and what they do for emergency detentions and inpatient care, 302 00:23:48,970 --> 00:23:53,310 it has to be a full funded, it's a county worker under Department of Human Services. 303 00:23:53,310 --> 00:23:58,870 we did look at different models around the state that had city employees and they just weren't 304 00:23:58,870 --> 00:24:03,970 effective because they weren't able to do their job. So that position has to be a county employee, 305 00:24:03,970 --> 00:24:10,830 fully funded county employee. Okay, because you feel like we need an extra one, right? And I just 306 00:24:10,830 --> 00:24:16,990 wanted to, or not, I'm just, I'm just, yeah, I mean, I've been at the table and advocating for 307 00:24:17,730 --> 00:24:23,670 to additional social workers like we haven't been in the county and in the city as they were 308 00:24:23,670 --> 00:24:28,090 looking at doing their plan and the county and that was what I shared with the county board 309 00:24:28,090 --> 00:24:34,690 and county committees. Okay, I just wanted to be as I didn't. I appreciate your question. 310 00:24:38,290 --> 00:24:43,610 Thank you, Ms. Lorne. Further questions on the C.A.P. at this point? 311 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,520 Seeing no further questions, 312 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:58,660 I'll take motions to change the CAP at this point if anybody has any motions and anything they'd like to discuss for changes on the CAP. 313 00:25:04,940 --> 00:25:19,000 I'll close that off as well at this point. So with that, that runs through our budget and capital improvement plan overview, part of the agenda for tonight. 314 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:27,780 But at Mr. Morris request, I'm going to continue and just kind of ask for general feedback from the council about budget presentations this summer. 315 00:25:27,780 --> 00:25:32,740 how that all went overall the budget document if there's if there's room for improvement areas 316 00:25:32,740 --> 00:25:38,040 and and things like that that that that that we could do better. That that would be a great 317 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,320 time to share that feedback list down. 318 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,280 Ms. Brawl, I'll let you actually I'm going to go to Ms. 319 00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:53,360 Luring first. She's first in the queue. Hope you want to jump in there. This one is to say that 320 00:25:53,360 --> 00:26:01,640 I've been on City Council now. This is my third year. Starting to be a long time now. Just kidding. 321 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:07,260 But as I've been on the council, I think it's done really well. 322 00:26:07,580 --> 00:26:12,960 I am able to understand it, especially now because it's my 30 year. 323 00:26:13,220 --> 00:26:14,620 So I think it's well organized. 324 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:21,560 And if we have questions, everyone's accessible and we can come and ask you questions 325 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,320 and you answer the questions. 326 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:31,500 So I didn't get to spend my time with Mistos, but I know that she would have went down 327 00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:37,800 through everything and so it's just I just want to say thank you for making it easy to understand. 328 00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:57,130 Thank you. Yeah, I would just like to echo that. Thank you. One of the things that I really appreciate in the budget memo is kind of a look back at like where we've been and some of our successes things to keep in mind. 329 00:26:57,130 --> 00:27:00,890 Because even if you've been on council for a few years and have been through this process, 330 00:27:01,470 --> 00:27:05,890 like there's things that you don't really remember because we haven't discussed them in depth in a while. 331 00:27:06,770 --> 00:27:14,050 And I also already expressed this to Mr. Moore in person, but I just really appreciate the timeline that you've chosen to follow 332 00:27:14,050 --> 00:27:16,750 where we get all of those presentations in the summer. 333 00:27:17,250 --> 00:27:22,870 I think especially for newer council members, it helps us to get a better relationship with our department heads, 334 00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:26,570 So that if we do have questions, we're not really afraid to ask them. 335 00:27:26,670 --> 00:27:32,430 We know who to talk to about which item, and just the timeline in general just gives us 336 00:27:32,430 --> 00:27:33,150 so much more time. 337 00:27:33,270 --> 00:27:37,350 I think that a lot of municipalities or at the county level that we get to sit with the 338 00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:43,430 actual budget document and the CIP, because there's a lot of numbers in here and I think most 339 00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:49,190 of us, none of us, I don't know, any of us are accounting professionals or in fields like 340 00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:51,310 that that we're looking at this kind of stuff all the time. 341 00:27:51,310 --> 00:27:57,770 So for resident representatives to have so much time with the budget I really really appreciate. 342 00:27:58,070 --> 00:28:01,830 And then, of course, the the fast question answering is just amazing. 343 00:28:02,130 --> 00:28:03,430 So thank you to Trisha too. 344 00:28:05,230 --> 00:28:07,230 Thank you, Ms. Brawl. Mr. Byber. You're right. 345 00:28:07,370 --> 00:28:12,590 Yes, I'd like to highlight also Joe that thank you, President Eisenhower. 346 00:28:13,670 --> 00:28:16,710 How good it is to see how everything is very organized. 347 00:28:18,570 --> 00:28:23,950 We're quite not just one department but several departments that are win awards for keeping 348 00:28:23,950 --> 00:28:28,770 excellence and that's flexion on you and also on your folks. 349 00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:35,410 Also like being able to visit each of the departments and talk I still got more to go. 350 00:28:35,930 --> 00:28:43,890 We've got a few people there but it's for me to help help be up here to be able to work with 351 00:28:43,890 --> 00:28:48,090 city in represent the citizens, as I always say, I think of the inverted 352 00:28:48,090 --> 00:28:52,470 pyramid citizens first, city staff second, and then me at the 353 00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:57,250 bottom, and I appreciate everyone that's been very kind in 354 00:28:57,250 --> 00:29:02,150 helping and answering questions. So, so that's more to go, but I 355 00:29:02,150 --> 00:29:07,500 appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Bymer. Anyone else want to 356 00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:08,520 jump in on this? 357 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,620 Without seeing anyone else, I'll just add my comments 358 00:29:13,620 --> 00:29:17,160 really quickly. Mr. Moore, I want to say thank you very much for the 359 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:24,740 I think the I think the mental in particular is a really good introduction to the budget it makes the numbers a lot easier to digest 360 00:29:25,180 --> 00:29:35,500 Miss Davy the year by year comparisons. It was so easy for me to go. Okay, this went this went up by this much and and so then it led me very quickly to be able to ask why 361 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:41,040 Mr. DeBries. Thank you for all the all the detail that you provided particularly on the street projects because 362 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,780 I know that's that's something I'm going to get stopped at probably by the time I go home tonight 363 00:29:44,780 --> 00:29:47,760 somebody's going to harass me at Irish is about what streets are getting done. 364 00:29:48,380 --> 00:29:55,200 So I appreciate that very much and honestly, overall, the CIP is laid out extremely well. 365 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,880 And I know that there are some members on council who were not a part of the ARPA funding. 366 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:07,380 But even the way we did ARPA funding compared to the way a lot of other municipalities that ARPA funding back then, it's just incredible. 367 00:30:08,580 --> 00:30:21,740 It's a really, really great thing. And I also have to say, as a bit of a tech nerd, it's really wonderful to have it all up on the website and to have it in a searchable PDF document form that I can just very quickly go, okay, what's this? 368 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:28,020 I mean, I wanted to take a deep dive on salt. I would have never been able to take a deep dive on salt, if it wasn't laid out so well. 369 00:30:28,020 --> 00:30:33,020 So thank you all very much for that. It was it made it very easy for me. Really appreciate it 370 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,320 so 371 00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:44,460 With that I just wanted to add one more housekeeping note that the plan commission as a part of its function gets a chance to review the CIP as well 372 00:30:44,460 --> 00:30:49,720 And the plan commission did recommend approval of our CIP for next year 373 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,000 So with that I think that concludes everything on the agenda 374 00:30:54,740 --> 00:30:58,820 So, I believe all this left for us to do, unless you want to jump in one more time Mr. 375 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,200 More, we good. 376 00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:00,980 All right. 377 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,440 Well, then at that point, I think we know who needs to give us a motion to adjourn. 378 00:31:06,780 --> 00:31:07,840 I'll take a second for that, please. 379 00:31:12,420 --> 00:31:15,440 I got a motion by Mr. Zimmerman and a second by Mr. Vibert. 380 00:31:15,460 --> 00:31:16,300 Thank you both. 381 00:31:20,060 --> 00:31:21,100 And that passes unanimously. 382 00:31:21,260 --> 00:31:21,820 We are adjourned. 383 00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:22,300 Thanks, everyone.