1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,199 Hills EMS. 2 00:00:14,719 --> 00:00:20,600 Sorry. Um, do I need to plug my computer 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,600 in or were you guys all good? 4 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:32,399 » I can do either one. I'm 5 00:00:31,039 --> 00:00:35,399 Plug your computer in. That would be 6 00:00:32,399 --> 00:00:35,399 faster. 7 00:00:38,399 --> 00:00:42,520 » We just need you on the mic. 8 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:52,559 We need you on the mic like Yeah. 9 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:55,600 Me now on the mic. Okay. Very good. 10 00:00:52,559 --> 00:00:57,600 Uh so yes, we're coming today to talk to 11 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,800 you a little bit about our uh financial 12 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,879 standing. Um as you can see above here 13 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,760 right now, uh this is our income and 14 00:01:02,879 --> 00:01:08,720 expense report 15 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:11,040 for uh 2025 16 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,520 for our total expenses were 1.49 17 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,799 million. 18 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,479 » You get started. Can you just extend 19 00:01:12,799 --> 00:01:17,640 your display? That would be the easiest 20 00:01:14,479 --> 00:01:17,640 way to 21 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,959 Perfect. You guys can all see it now. 22 00:02:47,519 --> 00:02:51,519 » Yes. 23 00:02:48,959 --> 00:02:54,800 » So, uh, as we talk about our 2025, uh, 24 00:02:51,519 --> 00:02:57,280 total expenses, we're at 1.49 million 25 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,680 with our total collections of 1.38. As 26 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:04,319 you guys can see, that is less than what 27 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:06,159 our expenses are. Um, 28 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:08,239 over the years, our capital needs have 29 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:09,920 changed drastically. And I'm not talking 30 00:03:08,239 --> 00:03:13,120 like for the last 10 years. I'm talking 31 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:16,080 since 2021. As you can see, in 2021, 32 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:20,000 ambulance costs were about $26,000 for a 33 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:21,599 unit. This uh in 2026, that's over 330. 34 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,239 I can attest to that cuz we bought one a 35 00:03:21,599 --> 00:03:26,720 month ago that was $332,000. 36 00:03:24,239 --> 00:03:28,159 And that's just the truck. Add on top of 37 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:33,400 that, like they say, the stretcher 38 00:03:28,159 --> 00:03:33,400 system there is an additional $80,750. 39 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:40,319 honors we bought in 2018 that were 40 00:03:37,519 --> 00:03:41,840 $15,000. I bought two new ones at the 41 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:44,840 beginning of this year. That was 42 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,840 $80,000. 43 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,799 As you can see over the years, yes, our 44 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,799 combined capital costs have gone up over 45 00:03:50,799 --> 00:03:53,799 61%. 46 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:01,760 Over the years, you can see um from 2023 47 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:04,799 to 2026, every year our expenses go up 48 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:07,840 about 20%. So, we're also looking that 49 00:04:04,799 --> 00:04:12,280 next year again another 20% on top of 50 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,280 what you know we've been collecting 51 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:18,239 and that's with our income coming in 52 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:20,400 just from um our patient transports. 53 00:04:18,239 --> 00:04:22,000 Now, how do we make up that that 54 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,759 disparagy? We do it through our 55 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:28,160 subscription drive. We do it through our 56 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:30,000 standbys. We do it through CPR training 57 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,479 as well as uh grants and things like 58 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:35,840 that. Unfortunately though, that is not 59 00:04:32,479 --> 00:04:39,960 a feasible business practice to continue 60 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:39,960 on to into the future. 61 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:46,960 Over the years, we have gotten a uh 62 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:49,199 small per capita from all the burrows as 63 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:52,320 you can see here 64 00:04:49,199 --> 00:04:55,520 uh with Bradock Hills paying $1.45 per 65 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:59,199 person, Churchill paying $4.97 66 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:02,320 or $4.97 per person. Shelfont who is 67 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:05,440 elected to do the millillage tax, Forest 68 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:08,919 Hills doing $187 and Wilkins Township 69 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,919 doing $2.85. 70 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:15,919 What we're proposing going forward is 71 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:18,919 putting everybody on an e even keel. 72 00:05:15,919 --> 00:05:18,919 So 73 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:24,960 sort of like a stepped up proposal as we 74 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:27,680 start into next year at a $4 per person 75 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:30,639 per capita. the year after go to six and 76 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:33,919 the following year to go 77 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:36,639 help drastically drastically close that 78 00:05:33,919 --> 00:05:39,520 funding gap that we needed 79 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:40,960 relevant going into the future. 80 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,320 Fortunately, we're not the only 81 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,479 ambulance company that's facing this. 82 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:47,280 This is all across Pennsylvania. It's 83 00:05:44,479 --> 00:05:48,720 all across the United States. U we also 84 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:52,240 need to get to a point where we have 85 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:54,960 about 6 months of uh operational cost in 86 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,960 the bank. Why? because in the last time 87 00:05:54,960 --> 00:06:01,320 they had a medic major Medicare shutdown 88 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,320 43 ambulance services in Alageney. 89 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,720 You don't want to be one of those 43. I 90 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:08,560 don't want to be one of those 43. So if 91 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,160 I can have six months operational, I can 92 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,000 continue to put fuel in my trucks. I 93 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:15,960 continue to pay my people and I can 94 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,960 continue to keep the lights on. 95 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,240 We talk about, you know, the uh increase 96 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,680 and stuff like that. Again, this is 97 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,639 nothing new. I know everybody's been 98 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:27,039 around and heard it plenty times before. 99 00:06:24,639 --> 00:06:29,600 I do have with me um paper from the 100 00:06:27,039 --> 00:06:32,000 Woodland Hills Progress dated August 101 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,720 25th, 2004 102 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:39,120 where we were asking for $2 per 103 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:42,560 resident. That was 22 years ago, 104 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:45,600 asking for $2 per resident and only two 105 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,960 of the services has gotten to that point 106 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,680 or two of the communities got to that 107 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,520 point. 108 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,919 look at even with inflation and things 109 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,840 like that, that $2 would be almost $4 110 00:06:53,919 --> 00:06:57,520 nowadays. 111 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:59,919 We're at the point where yes, we do need 112 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,680 as much help and funding support from 113 00:06:59,919 --> 00:07:04,720 our local communities, not just Forest 114 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:08,280 Hills, but from Wilkins Township and 115 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,280 from Bradic Hills. 116 00:07:08,479 --> 00:07:13,080 Questions of me regarding any of it? 117 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,880 » Anyone? 118 00:07:15,919 --> 00:07:21,280 » What? Yeah. What is your largest service 119 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,360 area compared to population? Is it 120 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,960 obviously Wilkins or 121 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,120 » Actually Forest Hills has a higher 122 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,319 population than Wilkins by about a 123 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,319 little over 75? 124 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:33,039 » Oh yeah. Uhhuh. 125 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:35,039 So are your service areas pretty much in 126 00:07:33,039 --> 00:07:36,880 line with the populations in terms of 127 00:07:35,039 --> 00:07:38,800 calls and everything? 128 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,720 » Yes, we are one of the busier services 129 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,639 in the area. 130 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:46,639 » I guess I'm not asking my question very 131 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:48,319 well. Which bureau has the most calls? 132 00:07:46,639 --> 00:07:49,680 Generally that's Wilkins. 133 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:51,039 » Okay. 134 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,800 » But that's also because they have the 135 00:07:51,039 --> 00:07:56,960 business district as well as the the 136 00:07:52,800 --> 00:08:00,160 larger portion of the highway. 137 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:02,240 » Do businesses contribute in Wilkins? 138 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,919 » Some of them do. Not many. I'll be 139 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:07,919 honest with you. Um our subscription 140 00:08:03,919 --> 00:08:09,360 rate return is at around 20%. 141 00:08:07,919 --> 00:08:13,319 » Thank you. 142 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,319 » Any other questions from anybody? 143 00:08:14,479 --> 00:08:19,039 Um, 144 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:22,039 if if you could get us copies of the 145 00:08:19,039 --> 00:08:22,039 PowerPoint, 146 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,120 » I'd be more than happy to. 147 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,940 » And the the aggregate amount that we you 148 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,639 you're looking at there 149 00:08:28,940 --> 00:08:33,200 [cough and clears throat] 150 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:34,880 from if you combine those, 151 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:38,479 if you go three years out, that would 152 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:40,560 give you an another about 30% 153 00:08:38,479 --> 00:08:43,440 above your present cushion, right? You'd 154 00:08:40,560 --> 00:08:45,760 increase it by about 30%. 30%. 155 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,720 » Take it up to almost a whopping 10 156 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,640 months of cushion. 157 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,519 » Yes, [laughter] 158 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,600 thank you. 159 00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:54,480 » And that does not also, you know, taken 160 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:58,279 to the fact that 20% next year of you 161 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,279 increased cost 20%. 162 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:04,240 » Right. I'll be around afterwards. 163 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,120 Anybody has any questions? Thank you 164 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,440 very much. 165 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,560 » Thank you. 166 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:11,839 » Thank you. Our 167 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:15,640 next speaker is uh Miss Pierce from the 168 00:09:11,839 --> 00:09:15,640 CC Miller Library. 169 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,080 » Good evening. Thank you guys very much 170 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,360 for inviting me this evening. Um for 171 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,720 those of you who I have not met before, 172 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,880 my name is Aaron Pierce. I'm the 173 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:29,760 executive director of CC Miller Library. 174 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,880 Um and as you know, we provide library 175 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,399 services to five different 176 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,480 municipalities in the eastern suburbs, 177 00:09:32,399 --> 00:09:36,320 one of which being Forest Hills. Um we 178 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,880 do this out of two locations. our main 179 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:41,040 library in Edgewood and obviously our 180 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:45,360 adorable little postage stamp size 181 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:48,560 library in Forest Hills. Um I am showing 182 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:50,640 up here this evening to talk to you a 183 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:52,399 little bit about our budget request. I 184 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,240 assume that that has been distributed. 185 00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:57,440 If it is not, I can certainly forward 186 00:09:54,240 --> 00:10:00,080 it. Um but we are asking for a cost of 187 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,480 living increase this year. Um we were 188 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:05,120 grateful for the slight increase that we 189 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:07,279 received last year. Um and we are really 190 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:10,320 just trying to keep up with the costs of 191 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:12,880 doing business. We have learned in the 192 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,800 last couple of weeks that um our state 193 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,440 funding for next year is going to be 194 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:21,120 flatfunded. Our state funding comes in 195 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:23,519 at just about 25% of our funding. So 196 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:27,360 that being flat funded does cut into our 197 00:10:23,519 --> 00:10:29,440 operational dollars to some degree. Um 198 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,600 we have about 25% of our funding comes 199 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,839 from states. about 25% of our funding 200 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:37,440 comes from local municipalities and the 201 00:10:33,839 --> 00:10:39,920 other 50% of our funding comes from 202 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:42,240 actually that's not yeah the other 45% 203 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:44,560 of our funding really comes from like 204 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,320 money that we are generating ourselves 205 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:48,959 that's you know that's individual 206 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,480 donations that we're getting that's um 207 00:10:48,959 --> 00:10:51,839 fundraising events that we're doing 208 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,200 that's grants that we're writing you 209 00:10:51,839 --> 00:10:57,399 know that is that is money that we are 210 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,399 that we are going out and seeking 211 00:10:57,839 --> 00:11:03,120 so just a few Quick facts about the 212 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,519 Forest Hills folks and how they interact 213 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:09,600 with our library. Um, Forest Hills 214 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:11,760 residents love the library. 215 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,279 We have just over 3,000 people from 216 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:16,079 Forest Hills that are library card 217 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:18,240 holders. So, that's um a pretty 218 00:11:16,079 --> 00:11:21,600 significant portion of your population. 219 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:23,920 We have about 60,000 books a year that 220 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,920 get checked out of um our Small Forest 221 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:28,000 Hills location here. And I'm going to 222 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,399 say we have a full lineup of programs 223 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,160 that happen here. Um, and we cannot keep 224 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:34,000 people away. We don't run something that 225 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:37,279 doesn't end up pretty full from the 226 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,800 get-go. So, we are very, very gratified 227 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:40,959 at the way that the Forest Hills 228 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,839 residents like use the library and we 229 00:11:40,959 --> 00:11:46,240 are very happy to continue providing. 230 00:11:43,839 --> 00:11:48,880 Um, like I said, our request this year 231 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:51,040 is just a cost of living increase. We're 232 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,440 asking for $34,000. 233 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:56,399 Um, 234 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,920 what else could I say? Also, this has 235 00:11:56,399 --> 00:11:59,519 been a landmark year for us. We have 236 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,720 embarked this year upon a capital 237 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:05,600 campaign. Um, we are doing a renovation 238 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:08,079 to our main location in Edgewood. We 239 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:11,120 have about a $3 million project. We've 240 00:12:08,079 --> 00:12:13,600 currently raised about 2.85 of that 241 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,399 coming in that home stretch. Um, but we 242 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:20,000 are starting um construction on that 243 00:12:16,399 --> 00:12:23,920 facility on September 8th. We anticipate 244 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:26,160 that taking um about a year. Um, but we 245 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,000 will have modified services at our main 246 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,920 location between September 8th and 247 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,760 hopefully the end of March where we'll 248 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,600 be operating just out of our first floor 249 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,040 on that location. We'll still be 250 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,040 offering all of the same things that we 251 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,680 offer. Um, but we will just be doing it 252 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,200 on a much on a much smaller physical 253 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:43,600 footprint. We're also going to be 254 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,959 offering curbside delivery. So, if you 255 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,800 are looking to pick up your holds at our 256 00:12:44,959 --> 00:12:48,000 Edgewood location, you can still do so. 257 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,440 We're happy to run them out to your car 258 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,360 for you. You can just pull up in the 259 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,639 little park in the little spot in front 260 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,600 of the library and there will be a sign 261 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:59,320 that you can call. 262 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,320 » Anybody have any questions? 263 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:06,279 » Yes. Yes, if I may. Um 264 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:11,800 asking a simple cost of living increase 265 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,800 based on 266 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:18,480 » Uh it's just over 3% I believe three 267 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:21,600 3.67 67 is what the cost of living 268 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:25,000 increase for a cost is is expected to be 269 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,000 for 2027. 270 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,160 » That is the I believe that is the same 271 00:13:28,959 --> 00:13:31,200 model that we used last year in our 272 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,200 request, but I'd have to go back and 273 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:36,959 double check that. One of the things I'd 274 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:40,720 be curious about is u 275 00:13:36,959 --> 00:13:42,560 with the the EMTs 276 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:45,839 I'd like to I think it'd be very 277 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:48,959 informative for the for all of us to see 278 00:13:45,839 --> 00:13:50,880 where are your expenses and 279 00:13:48,959 --> 00:13:52,399 what's driving the request. I'm not 280 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,880 saying there's not a cost of living 281 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:56,720 increase, but is that realistic? I I 282 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:59,040 believe you know you've probably 283 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,519 increased wages due to unionization and 284 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,959 such. 285 00:13:59,519 --> 00:14:04,000 » I can tell I can tell you off the top of 286 00:14:00,959 --> 00:14:05,920 my head that 67% of our budget to 70% of 287 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,600 our budget is staffing. 288 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,199 » It's it's just humans to do the service. 289 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,760 » And what's been the increase in that 290 00:14:09,199 --> 00:14:12,880 over the last year or two? Is it been a 291 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,519 3% or 292 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,920 » It has been pretty much a 3% although 293 00:14:15,519 --> 00:14:19,600 there is a slight variation from person 294 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,440 to person depending upon 295 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,560 » In the aggregate in the contract it's 296 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,639 about 3%. 297 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:27,120 » Yes. I I wanted to see the relevance of 298 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:29,040 3% versus what's really costing you, 299 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,160 your your labor, your books, your 300 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,000 electricity. 301 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,519 » Yeah, it's most it's mostly most of our 302 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,720 budget is labor. So, everything comes 303 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:35,600 down to labor for us. 304 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,120 » All right. Thank you. 305 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,199 » Yeah. 306 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:42,079 » Anyone else? Mr. Bacon, 307 00:14:39,199 --> 00:14:44,560 » Are you anticipating uh greater usage 308 00:14:42,079 --> 00:14:45,440 here in Forest Hills during the Edgewood 309 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,519 renovation? 310 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,360 » It's a really great question. Um I'm not 311 00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:50,800 entirely sure. I will tell you that we 312 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,120 are increasing the number of books that 313 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:55,680 we're putting at Forest Hills. Um, based 314 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,839 upon the renovation, the all of our 315 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,079 adult collections at the Edgewood 316 00:14:57,839 --> 00:15:04,240 location are going to be unavailable 317 00:15:00,079 --> 00:15:07,440 with the exception of a I'm going to say 318 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:09,040 400 book bestseller collection. Um, 319 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:12,000 everything else that we do at Edgewood 320 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:14,000 for adults is going to be ordered in 321 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,760 during the time of our renovation. So, 322 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,920 we are going to be taking a lot of our 323 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:20,639 collections money and diverting it to 324 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:24,000 Forest Hills. Um, as you all know 325 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:26,880 though, um, Forest Hills is 900 square f 326 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,800 feet. So, you know, the literally the 327 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,639 number of books that I can add to Forest 328 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:33,120 Hills is, you know, it's we are already 329 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:34,480 in a one book in one book out model in 330 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,959 order to add things to our collections 331 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:39,199 here. So, you will probably see a um you 332 00:15:36,959 --> 00:15:41,040 will probably see a increase in traffic. 333 00:15:39,199 --> 00:15:44,639 The other thing that we anticipate is 334 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:46,880 that we might end up having a um we 335 00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:48,480 might end up having a few things that 336 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,920 are traditionally held at our Edgewood 337 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:53,120 location that we will move to our Forest 338 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:57,639 Hills thinking like board meetings um 339 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,639 you know which great right 340 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,079 » Anyone else 341 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:09,920 thank you guys 342 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:12,800 » Our next speaker is Mr. Brett from LSSE 343 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:15,759 or engineer. 344 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:18,880 » Uh yes, good evening. Um I did hand out 345 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:22,480 this evening uh a spreadsheet uh which 346 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:26,399 is for uh capital expenditures. Uh we'll 347 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:28,880 cover those in three buckets. Um the 348 00:16:26,399 --> 00:16:32,880 first bucket will be uh sanitary sore 349 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:34,639 items um which are uh related to your 350 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:38,160 consent order. Uh this is your second 351 00:16:34,639 --> 00:16:41,440 consent order. um with the Alageney 352 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:44,160 County uh health department and it has 353 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:47,440 uh certain requirements and timing this 354 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:51,040 that's has had to be completed uh over 355 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:53,440 the last um four years and will continue 356 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,839 over the next three years. Uh at that 357 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,920 time there will be a third consent order 358 00:16:55,839 --> 00:16:59,759 uh that will be negotiated and that'll 359 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:04,079 be another at least fiveyear consent 360 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:06,559 order um as Elkasan uh completes its wet 361 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:08,880 weather plan. uh which the burrow is 362 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:12,319 part of. The second bucket will be your 363 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:15,039 storm water improvements. Uh as council 364 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:17,199 recalls, you have an MS4 permit for your 365 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:18,799 separate storm source system. And 366 00:17:17,199 --> 00:17:21,280 there's certain elements within that 367 00:17:18,799 --> 00:17:22,799 permit that were to be completed by 368 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:26,559 2025. 369 00:17:22,799 --> 00:17:31,120 Um the next permit cycle will not be uh 370 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:33,919 in place until 2027 or 2028. Uh so uh 371 00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:35,840 the burrow has projects yet to complete 372 00:17:33,919 --> 00:17:38,400 um which we have programmed over the 373 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:41,440 next uh year to year and a half at this 374 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:44,240 point. Uh the last bucket is your roads 375 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,919 and other public works projects. Uh I 376 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,240 will review these quickly uh with 377 00:17:45,919 --> 00:17:50,400 council so you know uh what the buckets 378 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:56,080 are currently at. 379 00:17:50,400 --> 00:18:00,080 uh as a um uh point of 380 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:03,280 um understanding what uh the revenue is 381 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:07,360 uh for the sanitary and the storm water. 382 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:10,240 Um round figures it's around uh $4.2 383 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:11,840 million a year. Um and I'll get to a 384 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,480 line item. It takes half of that which 385 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:17,039 is your payment to Alcasan for sanitary 386 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:19,840 sewage treatment. So, uh, starting at 387 00:18:17,039 --> 00:18:22,000 the top, um, engineering related 388 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:24,720 expenses items in yellow we're still 389 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:27,679 working through, uh, either with Christa 390 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,120 or the public works committee. Um, uh, 391 00:18:27,679 --> 00:18:31,440 because they're plug numbers from 392 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:33,280 previous budgets and we need to 393 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:36,160 understand, uh, the amount that needs to 394 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:38,960 be in there. Uh, the second item is a 395 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:41,679 general item, general sore repairs. This 396 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:43,039 gets tracked year to year. Um, this is 397 00:18:41,679 --> 00:18:44,720 whenever you get that call in the middle 398 00:18:43,039 --> 00:18:46,960 of the night that a sanitary sore is 399 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,840 broken and you have to go in and do a 400 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:54,160 repair. The bur typically has maintained 401 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:56,720 a $30,000 line item there. Item three is 402 00:18:54,160 --> 00:19:00,960 your largest expense. Uh, Alka-Sand 403 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:02,799 sewage treatment. So from uh 2022 to 404 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,840 2026 405 00:19:02,799 --> 00:19:07,520 um Alka-Sand soore charges increase by 406 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:12,160 7%. 407 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:14,000 each year for 2027 and beyond. They have 408 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,160 not released a rate increase. I just 409 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,320 checked it as I was sitting here to make 410 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:21,280 sure it hasn't been uh released in the 411 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:24,480 last week or so. Um it has on their site 412 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:27,880 that they're going to release it in late 413 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,880 uh 20 414 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:55,200 EO uh 913. Um 415 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,440 they're currently bidding a significant 416 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:00,400 amount of work for their uh consent 417 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:02,559 order um in the 418 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:05,120 hundreds of millions if not billions of 419 00:20:02,559 --> 00:20:07,039 dollars, the first round of contracts. 420 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:09,600 Um, so I think that is why they're 421 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:11,280 probably waiting to set rates is they're 422 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,440 waiting to see how their first capital 423 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:16,160 projects come in versus where their 424 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:20,160 budget was. So I have not had any input 425 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:22,559 back from them on that. Um, uh, but I 426 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:25,760 would definitely expect a rate increase 427 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:27,840 uh, the same as what the last uh, 15 428 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:31,520 years has had a continual rate increase 429 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:33,440 every year from Alcasan. So we will 430 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,600 increase that number uh when you see 431 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,440 this next uh when we go through it uh 432 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,440 with Christa and the public works 433 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:43,760 committee. I think together we should 434 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:45,440 decide if we want to do 7% or 10% 435 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,400 knowing that maybe their costs have 436 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,919 increased. So um yes Krista 437 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,520 » Just to make note for the audience and 438 00:20:49,919 --> 00:20:53,600 for council this is a statutory 439 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,960 requirement that as a member of Alcasan 440 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,559 that we have to budget the amount that 441 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,120 they're telling us to budget as well as 442 00:20:56,559 --> 00:21:01,600 an expense. So it's not an while we c we 443 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:03,280 can forecast right now without a set 444 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,880 percentage eventually there's going to 445 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,000 be a letter that says we must reserve x 446 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:10,159 number of dollars. 447 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:12,640 » Yes. Yes. It's a prescriptive number. Uh 448 00:21:10,159 --> 00:21:14,720 and uh typically they do it in four-year 449 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,720 tranches which has been very nice from 450 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,960 budgeting. Uh but this year they have 451 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,200 not released it yet. I would expect it 452 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,360 to be a multi-year rate increase again 453 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,880 which will help uh with forecasting for 454 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:28,400 the future. 455 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:30,960 Um, next is uh inspection of manholes 456 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:33,039 and soores are the next two line items. 457 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,960 So part of the consent order is you're 458 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:37,919 to continually be maintaining your 459 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:40,400 system. Um, your system's 100 years old. 460 00:21:37,919 --> 00:21:42,880 Uh, plus or minus manholes or brick 461 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,280 manholes. A lot of them need repairs 462 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,520 over time. So instead of trying to 463 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,760 repair everything at once, a little bit 464 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:52,720 each year is recommended to be set 465 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,960 aside. um the burough had gotten away 466 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:58,000 from that practice and then you had a 467 00:21:54,960 --> 00:22:01,679 number of emergency repairs uh over the 468 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:04,320 past decade. Um so we recommend uh you 469 00:22:01,679 --> 00:22:07,200 do set some money aside each year to do 470 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:09,760 some uh preventive maintenance uh 471 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,760 mapping of the system as you do repairs. 472 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,240 um they're to go into your GIS map and 473 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,880 that gets uploaded with your consent 474 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:19,440 order each year uh so that uh your 475 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,960 updated mapping is in the regional 476 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:24,720 system. 477 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:29,280 Uh next is on and m uh we only put a 478 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:31,600 small amount uh 500 ft of uh so repairs 479 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:34,480 to be completed uh just so you have a 480 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:38,960 number to start with of 25,000. Over 481 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:41,120 time, uh, as, uh, your system becomes 482 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,679 more evident where repairs are needed, 483 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:45,760 you will add projects in the future, uh, 484 00:22:43,679 --> 00:22:48,720 with larger numbers to them, but general 485 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:52,559 O&M repairs, lining, and so so forth 486 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:54,720 around $25,000 there. Uh, so sewer 487 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:56,640 overflow response plan, uh, again, 488 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,400 that's for that middle of the night call 489 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,640 that you have an overflow, somebody 490 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:03,440 calls and says there's a manhole, uh, 491 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:06,799 discharging. When that happens, uh you 492 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,400 have a uh response plan already adopted. 493 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:11,440 There's certain things you have to do as 494 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,520 far as cleanup goes and uh you need to 495 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,240 have an align item for the public works 496 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:19,760 to call somebody out if necessary to 497 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:22,640 complete work on that. The next item 498 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:26,880 number nine is flow monitoring. 499 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:30,080 Um $12,000 is included in that. Uh the 500 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,679 main reason there is because um the 501 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:35,039 bureau has been successful in getting 502 00:23:31,679 --> 00:23:38,880 grow grants uh through Elkcasan. Uh grow 503 00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:41,600 municipalities complete repairs. Um uh 504 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:44,480 since you do have funding from Alcasand, 505 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,480 part of that is a closeout report um 506 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,720 from your grow grant to show that you 507 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:51,679 had a positive impact uh with the 508 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:54,320 repairs that were completed and flow 509 00:23:51,679 --> 00:23:57,840 monitoring is part of that as well as uh 510 00:23:54,320 --> 00:24:00,720 completing um a final report. Um there 511 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:05,200 is some QAQC. It goes into that uh flow 512 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:07,520 monitoring. And then items 11, 12, 13, 513 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,679 14, 15, 514 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,360 uh 16 515 00:24:09,679 --> 00:24:13,440 um 516 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:16,159 are all all part of reporting to 517 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,799 Elkasan, D, and the health department. 518 00:24:16,159 --> 00:24:21,840 All items that yearly uh have to be 519 00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:24,320 completed. The the cost to complete some 520 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,080 of those reports varies yeartoear. Uh 521 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,000 this is average numbers that we would 522 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:32,320 see that you will be able to complete 523 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:35,679 the reports uh based on uh historic data 524 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:38,640 from the bureau. Uh next is refunds uh 525 00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:40,720 for sewage. Um that item it's in yellow 526 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,640 because um it's been a plug number in 527 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,120 your budget for a number of years. I do 528 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:48,159 think you've had expenditures that 529 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:50,159 somebody was overbuilt and uh you've had 530 00:24:48,159 --> 00:24:52,000 to probably do a reimbursement. So, 531 00:24:50,159 --> 00:24:53,760 there's been a small number included in 532 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:57,039 your budgets to do that from year to 533 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:59,120 year. Um, potentially somebody had a 534 00:24:57,039 --> 00:25:01,279 water break and had a big bill, they 535 00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:03,919 paid it, and then it had to be uh 536 00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:05,919 reimbured for the sewage. The next one, 537 00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:08,559 again, uh you do have your own street 538 00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:11,200 sweeper. Um there's a number there is a 539 00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:13,919 sweeper gets older. um maintenance on 540 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:17,200 the street sweeper will increase um over 541 00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:19,039 time. It starts at a very low number and 542 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,200 once a street sweeper gets to 10 years 543 00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:23,360 old um that number is going to be much 544 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:27,200 higher uh and public work should have 545 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:30,720 input into what that number should be. 546 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:33,919 Uh the next item item 19 um is a current 547 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,679 contract uh regionalization repairs um 548 00:25:33,919 --> 00:25:37,919 that the bur has out. It's going to be 549 00:25:35,679 --> 00:25:40,720 completed before the end of the year uh 550 00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:42,960 2027. there's nothing anticipated and 551 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:46,400 you do have a grant for a part of that 552 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:48,480 work. Um we do carry the 2026 553 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,640 expenditures in case you have a 554 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,360 carryover that somebody doesn't get 555 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,840 something done that will carry from 2026 556 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:58,559 into 2027. 557 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:01,760 Uh same the next item is the repairs 558 00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:04,799 contract um for the regionalization uh 559 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:07,440 the engineering that's involved with it. 560 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:10,960 The next one, item 21 is Bradic Road, 561 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:14,880 Armore uh Silven Road. Um this is one 562 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:17,840 that when you did your CCTV work um uh 563 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:20,080 for your region or for your 10% 564 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:23,120 reduction project, this was an area that 565 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:27,360 was CCTV and cannot be lined. It's got 566 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:30,799 an offset joint and um the work is uh 567 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:33,679 programmed to be completed not in 27, 568 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:36,080 but we show it in 28 as a future project 569 00:26:33,679 --> 00:26:38,559 cuz 27 you have projects that are higher 570 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:41,120 on the list to be completed. Um but that 571 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:43,279 repairs contract over the next couple 572 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:45,120 years. You want to complete that because 573 00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:47,679 it'll be a maintenance problem for you 574 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:49,200 and eventually fail. Um so we don't want 575 00:26:47,679 --> 00:26:51,200 to leave it that we could say 10 years 576 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:54,640 from now we'll get to it. they're 577 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:57,440 programmed into 2028. 578 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,960 Uh next item is 579 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,039 um 580 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,200 factor truck uh falls into the same 581 00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:05,440 category. Factor trucks and camber 582 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,760 trucks need maintenance to them. Um we 583 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,679 want to monitor that and make sure that 584 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,400 you have a money set aside because 585 00:27:09,679 --> 00:27:13,840 camber trucks break often. This is 586 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,000 something you share I believe with 587 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,919 Wilkins. Um so that needs to be 588 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,279 discussed how that breakout of 589 00:27:17,919 --> 00:27:21,440 maintenance costs are going to be 590 00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:23,919 completed and it's tracked appropriately 591 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,000 for the fund for expenses. 592 00:27:23,919 --> 00:27:28,240 Uh the next project is your 10% 593 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,799 reduction project that was bid and 594 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:34,000 awarded and you're currently under 595 00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:38,559 construction. So that's a a project that 596 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:41,440 had um $500,000 in last year's budget. 597 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:44,640 um project came in at 230,000 598 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,880 and uh when we did the budget at the end 599 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,640 of last year, you had applied for 600 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,480 grants, not received them, and then in 601 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,840 the spring you received them. So that 602 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:56,000 project became 100% funded by grants. Um 603 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,880 so it still shows up in your 2026 604 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,799 budget. It'll be completed this year. Uh 605 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:04,480 once it is completed, then that'll close 606 00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:06,480 out uh your 10% reduction project that 607 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,960 was required by the consent order this 608 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,120 year. Uh so a few months ago, Barb had 609 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,600 given an update indicating where we were 610 00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:17,120 at on regionalization and where we were 611 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:20,080 at on uh 10% reduction. Uh those two 612 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:22,640 projects were in the low uh teens as far 613 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,480 as percentage complete. By the time we 614 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:28,080 get to November, they'll be 100% 615 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:30,720 complete, which is good news. Um 616 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,880 the regionalization project, uh the 617 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:36,080 questions come up a few times. What's 618 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:39,440 that for? As part of Elkcasan's consent 619 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:42,320 order, um they were required to offer 620 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,799 regionalization for any sores that were 621 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,799 multi-municipal, which means your 622 00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:50,159 neighbors go into stores that you own 623 00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:52,960 and maintain. Uh you have a very long 624 00:28:50,159 --> 00:28:57,360 run that goes along Ardmore Boulevard. 625 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:59,360 Um uh very very difficult to work on. It 626 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:02,480 is a sore that should be owned by 627 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,960 Alcasan and maintained by them. uh you 628 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,679 and the other communities downstream 629 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,679 each had work to do on the interceptor. 630 00:29:07,679 --> 00:29:12,240 The project you're currently completing 631 00:29:09,679 --> 00:29:15,039 completes that regionalization work and 632 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,600 then it can be um dedicated over to 633 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:20,159 Elkasan. Uh your neighbors have to 634 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,799 complete their work as well in order for 635 00:29:20,159 --> 00:29:24,159 the whole run to be dedicated. But this 636 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:26,960 is one of those things that's very 637 00:29:24,159 --> 00:29:29,360 important because the old agreements did 638 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,840 not address how common maintenance was 639 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:35,039 done in the municipality that it was in 640 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:37,120 ended up bearing the cost for it. So, uh 641 00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:40,799 I have maps here this evening that shows 642 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:42,720 this um uh updated uh all the work 643 00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:44,799 that's being completed what the 644 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,039 regionalization store and actually it'll 645 00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:49,919 take the place of those ones on the wall 646 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:51,760 um because it shows the uh residents 647 00:29:49,919 --> 00:29:54,240 what does they get dedicated in the 648 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,799 future. It also shows all these projects 649 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,039 highlighted in red that either have been 650 00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:00,799 completed or will be completed and 651 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:02,720 there's a legend on there uh that 652 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:04,480 council can see. That way over time we 653 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,320 can update it and you'll see the 654 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,440 progress because of the amount of money 655 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:12,960 that's required to go into this program. 656 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:15,600 Uh the next item is employee training 657 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,919 and certifications. Uh it's always had 658 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,480 1500 in it. We need to talk to Mike and 659 00:30:17,919 --> 00:30:23,120 see uh if that's the right number, if 660 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,360 it's too low, too high um to make sure 661 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,919 that public works is getting training. 662 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:31,200 Um there is NASCO training that's 663 00:30:27,919 --> 00:30:33,679 required for the CCTV truck. It's a 664 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,600 national rating system for pipes. They 665 00:30:33,679 --> 00:30:38,559 definitely should have that if they 666 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,320 don't. Uh so that uh the consent order 667 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:42,399 requires that to be something that's 668 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:45,120 completed and we can help with that 669 00:30:42,399 --> 00:30:48,640 training if they need it. The next item 670 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:51,039 is phase three COA. It's not a 2027 671 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,200 expenditure, but I do show it in the 672 00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:55,679 future years because there's going to be 673 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,919 negotiation that happens that both the 674 00:30:55,679 --> 00:30:59,919 solicitor and the engineers involved 675 00:30:57,919 --> 00:31:01,440 with with a manager because the 676 00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:05,120 requirements that go into the phase 677 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:08,480 three consent order um are going to be 678 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:11,279 future uh construction uh future things 679 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,039 that you have to address. So, um it's a 680 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:15,200 multi-year process to get the new 681 00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:17,200 consent order. It's negotiated 682 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:21,279 regionally mostly by Three Rivers Wet 683 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:23,039 Weather. Um uh we're the uh program 684 00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:25,600 manager for that. Um but the 685 00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:27,600 municipalities also uh there's a lot of 686 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,080 meetings like this to update what that 687 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,760 next section is. Let me show some plug 688 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,159 numbers in there for what the future 689 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:38,640 expenditures just to start that 690 00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:41,760 discussion. Uh next, uh you'll remember 691 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:45,360 we've had one project that we completed 692 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,960 to eliminate a combined manhole that has 693 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,159 a storm sore in the bottom and a 694 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:53,039 sanitary sore in the top or vice versa 695 00:31:50,159 --> 00:31:55,039 depending on the area. Uh the bur is 696 00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:57,760 very unique in the fact that you had 24 697 00:31:55,039 --> 00:32:00,880 of these um that need to be removed. 698 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:03,279 Majority are on Avenue F. uh you were 699 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,440 successful in getting a grant uh from 700 00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:08,320 the federal government EPA funding for 701 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:12,799 the first 500,000. You have another one 702 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:16,720 pending. Total cost to remove these is 703 00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:18,159 in the uh $6 million range. Um because 704 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:22,000 they're very deep and they're very 705 00:32:18,159 --> 00:32:24,559 expensive to work on. Um uh so that's a 706 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,880 multi-year project to be completed. The 707 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:29,360 consent order requires they be be 708 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:32,559 separated um because it can impact the 709 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:34,480 sanitary or the storm system. Um so we 710 00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:36,640 have a long-term program put in place 711 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:39,279 that needs reported on yearly in your 712 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:41,600 annual report how your progress is going 713 00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:45,519 there. Um you're working on the second 714 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:51,559 two manholes this year on Avenue D. So, 715 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:51,559 all three of the um uh 24 taken. 716 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:59,120 Next on the following page, we're almost 717 00:32:54,240 --> 00:33:01,840 done with sanitary source is 718 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:04,159 the um 719 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:07,120 uh second Avenue F. Uh it's one we 720 00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:10,960 applied for and we show uh what the cost 721 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:13,679 is to go through the um uh the funding 722 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,320 that you have on Avenue F today. um the 723 00:33:13,679 --> 00:33:18,480 engineering cost to clear the uh 724 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,640 engineering and environmental hurdles 725 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,559 because it's federal money. Um you have 726 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,720 to have an environmental clearance and 727 00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:26,640 it's a uh large document in order to 728 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,919 actually get the money from the federal 729 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,919 government. Um the following one is just 730 00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:34,640 future expenditures um that we're 731 00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:36,640 anticipating for uh separation 732 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,360 elimination projects. Again, I 733 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:41,519 anticipate this to be a 10-year uh 734 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,440 program because you're going to want 735 00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:47,200 grants to complete every one of these 736 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:49,840 manholes and use maybe a third of your 737 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:52,000 money and then twothirds of somebody 738 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,240 else's money uh from the federal or the 739 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,399 state government. So, each year we'll 740 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,640 talk about what grants out there and how 741 00:33:56,399 --> 00:34:01,279 to uh knock off a couple more of these 742 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:05,360 manholes. Well, your total expenditure 743 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:13,200 for anticipated for uh sanitary sores in 744 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:14,800 27 is um 2.4 uh million. Um and that's 745 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,440 down from what you have been spending, 746 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:21,119 but uh if you think about it, your 10% 747 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,720 reduction projects completed and your um 748 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:24,320 regionalization project will be 749 00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:26,079 completed. So, you're more in a 750 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,639 compliance mode, maintenance mode. So, 751 00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:30,720 that's that's a good thing. 752 00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:33,919 The next section is expenditures on 753 00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:37,839 storm water. Um so you have uh typical 754 00:34:33,919 --> 00:34:40,240 MS4 uh cost um which is about $5,000 a 755 00:34:37,839 --> 00:34:42,639 year. And then the big item that you 756 00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:44,879 have uh is to get your pollution 757 00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:47,200 reduction plans completed. That'll be 758 00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:51,200 your pawn work. Uh you have one pending 759 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:52,560 now uh to award in 26 um that we're 760 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,960 going to discuss at the next public 761 00:34:52,560 --> 00:35:00,240 works meeting. And then next year we 762 00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:02,880 have $1 million programmed for um 763 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:04,880 uh MS4 work in your ponds and that'll 764 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,320 complete your permit. Uh the questions 765 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,640 come up is where are you at on 766 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:12,079 compliance? Uh these will be be 767 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:14,480 completed a year ago at this point. Um 768 00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:17,520 so by the time the next permit cycle 769 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,599 comes out uh it is it is imperative that 770 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:22,720 we report that you've completed your 771 00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:24,000 past requirements. Otherwise, uh you're 772 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:26,720 going to go into a different type of 773 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,599 permit, uh an individual permit, and you 774 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:31,760 could get another consent order. So, our 775 00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:36,640 goal collectively and my recommendation 776 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:40,079 is that um if the money is available to 777 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,920 complete all your work in uh 2027, which 778 00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:44,880 I believe it's going to be based on how 779 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:47,280 we programmed this, um that you complete 780 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,960 all your storm water work. We do have 781 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,520 about a million half dollars worth of 782 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,800 grant requests out there. Um, some of 783 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,960 those you're going to hear about in the 784 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,920 next month. If you get one of those 785 00:35:54,960 --> 00:36:00,400 grants, there is zero question that you 786 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:04,800 uh uh would not have an issue completing 787 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:06,960 all the work for your ERP um in 2027. 788 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,440 that puts you in good position because 789 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:12,400 after you get this cycle completed, the 790 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:16,800 next large expenditure for MS4s will not 791 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:20,560 happen until 2030 or 2031 because D 792 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:22,880 slightly delayed in uh that permit being 793 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,359 uh issued. So, 794 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,359 um next is projects that's been 795 00:36:25,359 --> 00:36:30,000 completed. I have them in green on here 796 00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:34,240 because they're uh one is completed 797 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:37,359 Woodside. Um the other one is 798 00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:42,079 uh Avenue A um which work is currently 799 00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:45,200 underway uh on it uh Avenue D actually 800 00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:46,480 sorry about that in Cherry Valley which 801 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,760 has been completed. We're just waiting 802 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:53,040 on uh the paving to be uh a few items to 803 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:56,400 be addressed there. Um we do show for 804 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:58,640 item six the MS4 permit. Um once they do 805 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,280 finalize the permit requirements, it 806 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:05,040 requires an complete study of the burrow 807 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:07,440 again for a volume reduction plan. Um 808 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,520 which is the next round. The last round 809 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,839 was pollution reduction which meant you 810 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,800 had take sediment out of the water. The 811 00:37:11,839 --> 00:37:17,359 next round is volume reduction uh to 812 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,960 reduce flooding. So as we all know 813 00:37:17,359 --> 00:37:20,640 downstream 814 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,040 uh a lot of people flood. You have 815 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:27,680 flooding here downstream certain parts 816 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:30,320 of the community. Um so uh D's uh new 817 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:33,200 permit cycle is to adjust flooding 818 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:35,119 through uh volume control. Uh the 819 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,520 question also has come up many of times 820 00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:41,440 in the last 10 years. What's the length 821 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:46,160 of this permit MS4? Uh it's 50 years in 822 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:50,160 the new cycle. um they are requiring 88 823 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:53,440 to 90% of the storm water that comes off 824 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,920 of the public roads to be addressed um 825 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,800 with volume control. Today the burrow 826 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:01,040 probably has 5% if that is being 827 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:04,079 addressed. The community system is 100 828 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:06,320 years old. Storm water was non-existent 829 00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:09,040 when this system was put in. There was 830 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:12,960 no ponds. Um it's direct release into 831 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:15,359 the stream. Um therefore they finally 832 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,280 from the engineering side gave us the 833 00:38:15,359 --> 00:38:19,680 answer that it is going to be a 50-year 834 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,800 permit. Uh they'll probably extend it to 835 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:25,920 55 or 60 years. Obviously well beyond 836 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:29,359 everybody's 10ear init. Uh but at least 837 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,880 we know now that this isn't a next 5year 838 00:38:29,359 --> 00:38:34,880 cycle and then it's done or another 839 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:36,560 5year cycle and it's done. The the thing 840 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,160 that's nice that I've read so far about 841 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,240 the permit and the research that we've 842 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,680 done into it is they are going to give 843 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:45,200 you a lot of credit for what you've 844 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,800 currently did. So the next 5 years you 845 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:51,359 won't have to build as much as you did 846 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:53,599 with this cycle. Um but over time you're 847 00:38:51,359 --> 00:38:58,320 still going to do something in every 848 00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:59,599 road in the municipality. So, um, 849 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,560 yes, 850 00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:05,680 » The storm water on roads is partly 851 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:09,280 affected by water that flows to us from 852 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:12,320 our neighbors above us. How does that 853 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:14,640 affect our obligation to reduce volume? 854 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,920 » We take them out of the equation. Um, 855 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:20,160 it's just um your water that lands 856 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,000 within the burrow. The water that's 857 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,560 being conveyed through from somebody 858 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,359 else, they have their own permit. 859 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:31,200 » Okay. So, for example, runoff from the 860 00:39:27,359 --> 00:39:32,800 uh Yoast uh shopping center with the 861 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,960 Propel School, 862 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,200 » You see cascading water coming down 863 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:40,000 there. Anytime it rains into our area, 864 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,839 it comes right down into our town. Uh 865 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,440 so, we would not be charged for that 866 00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:45,200 water. There's some way they can figure 867 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,640 out how much of that goes really to 868 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,400 Bradock Hills or Bradock. 869 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,480 » Yeah, they'll have their own permit, 870 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,400 those communities, and they have to 871 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:55,119 address whatever's tributary to their 872 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,720 road. So, Okay. Thank you. 873 00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:59,440 Um 874 00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:02,160 so storm water for 2027 is a 875 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,320 million50,000. 876 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:08,240 So if you add the two numbers together 877 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:10,880 they come up to around 3.5 3.6 million 878 00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:15,760 um for next year's expenditures 879 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:20,400 uh revenue in is 4.2. 880 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:22,560 Um, so all things being equal, we should 881 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,119 be able by the end of next year to set 882 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:28,079 some money aside for the next capital 883 00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:31,760 projects. Um because the goal long term 884 00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:34,960 is that you have a 885 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:38,240 amount of money setting in escrow 886 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:40,880 um that you can if you have a 887 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:43,280 significant problem in a sanitary system 888 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:47,040 or the storm system, you're not looking 889 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:49,440 at borrow money to to fix that. So, um, 890 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:52,079 we like to see that the capital fund 891 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:54,160 builds up to a half a million dollars 892 00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:57,040 because if you have one slide in the 893 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:59,200 municipality that takes out one sanitary 894 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:02,720 sore, you will spend a half a million 895 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:04,960 dollars in a month to fix that. So, uh, 896 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:07,200 currently, uh, you haven't had that 897 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:10,160 luxury in order to do that because of 898 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,760 all these consent orders and permits 899 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,160 that they're both going to take a little 900 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,880 breath about the same time. So you'll be 901 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:19,359 able to catch up over the next 3 years 902 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,920 and get an accounts with a a set aside 903 00:41:19,359 --> 00:41:24,160 so you have an emergency fund and 904 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,240 complete maintenance on the system. So 905 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,880 you get away from having emergencies and 906 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:31,680 backups and sores that are overflowing, 907 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,680 things like that. So, any questions on 908 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:37,760 storm and sanitary because that's its 909 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:40,319 own fund and uh that's a summary of the 910 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,720 capital projects that we've talked about 911 00:41:40,319 --> 00:41:44,560 throughout the years uh with the public 912 00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:46,160 works committee. This is the first year 913 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,319 that we're knocking off a bunch of 914 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,319 projects and there's some we're going to 915 00:41:48,319 --> 00:41:51,920 talk about at the next public works 916 00:41:50,319 --> 00:41:54,000 meeting to give a description on what 917 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:57,200 they are. So, 918 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,520 any questions on that? 919 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,040 Just to make note for everyone, this 920 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,359 will also be further discussed at the 921 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:06,680 October 21st budget meeting regarding 922 00:42:03,359 --> 00:42:06,680 other funds. 923 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:13,119 » Uh next is um Avenue D uh project. Uh it 924 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,880 is a storm water project, but it's going 925 00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:18,960 to be completed this year. Um uh so it 926 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:23,119 is not listed above as potential 927 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:27,440 expenditures in 2027. 928 00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:30,240 um roadways and public safety. Uh 929 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:34,640 little restroom project we talked about 930 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:38,240 um approximate cost 100,000 um at the 931 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:42,160 public works building um for a restroom 932 00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:43,359 uh lunchroom and fixing the oil area. Um 933 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:47,760 most of that work is going to be 934 00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:50,640 completed by public works and uh 20,000 935 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,800 for preparation of your MEP plans, your 936 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,720 plumbing plans, electric plans, 937 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,119 architectural plans to get all those 938 00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:59,359 permits and then I believe everything 939 00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:02,000 but the electrical is proposed that 940 00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:04,480 public works can do. So those costs will 941 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:07,760 likely come down from 100 because this 942 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,960 is block work, uh some framing work, uh 943 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,440 a little bit of plumbing work, a little 944 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,880 bit of electrical work. Um, but I think 945 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,040 we want to have a safe number in there 946 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,680 for your budget in case something needs 947 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,280 bid out. Um, and then if we're under 948 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,079 budget, that's great for everybody at 949 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:24,480 the end. Um, 950 00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:27,440 uh, next is two projects that's 951 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:30,000 completed. The last one is the, uh, 952 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:33,599 steps project that it was just awarded 953 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:36,319 and the expenditure in 27. Uh, I expect 954 00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:38,800 to be close to that 230. They are going 955 00:43:36,319 --> 00:43:40,960 to get started in the fall here, but we 956 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,520 may not get a bill until December, which 957 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:47,760 means it'll be completely carried over 958 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:50,319 into the year 2027 budget. Uh 2026 959 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,800 roadways is nearly complete. Um they 960 00:43:50,319 --> 00:43:55,440 have a few uh punch lists left. Um so 961 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:59,599 that project will be completed in 26. 962 00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:04,000 And then I do show the last item um 2027 963 00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:07,119 road paving. I use the uh 300,000 as a 964 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:09,359 uh benchmark. uh start discussions and I 965 00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:12,240 did hand out uh the other sheet which 966 00:44:09,359 --> 00:44:15,200 was the list of roadways 967 00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:17,839 um based on their rating what was next 968 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:20,400 to be in the base bid and the orange 969 00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:22,240 would be at alternates. Um this will be 970 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,800 discussed at the next public works 971 00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:27,680 meeting and I'm sure there'll be more to 972 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:31,200 come on it after we have that meeting. 973 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:33,280 Uh I also did bring the public works 974 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,119 sketch. Uh I'll hand this out at the end 975 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,760 for council. So you have what that 976 00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:39,520 100,000 is. Um this would be a pretty 977 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,640 major improvement for your public works 978 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:45,119 crew based on uh again that building's 979 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:48,960 been there probably 50 years. Uh hasn't 980 00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:50,880 had a lot of TLC. Um uh so they are the 981 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,599 uh bread and butter of what happens with 982 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,920 the uh community during snowstorms, 983 00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:57,520 during bad weather events and having a 984 00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,240 better facility for them, easier to 985 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,000 maintain the vehicles um is something 986 00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:04,079 that's being has been discussed with the 987 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,160 public works committee. Um, so it's 988 00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:08,560 something for your consideration. Uh, so 989 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:12,160 we'll hand that out at the end here. Uh, 990 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:14,400 any questions on any of that. 991 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,960 Sorry I took so long, but a lot of items 992 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:19,200 for uh, uh, for council. 993 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,880 » Mr. Just for clarification on that last 994 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,839 item for the public works building. Not 995 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,440 only is there a matter of renov like a 996 00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:27,280 renovation, but also we're talking 997 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,920 accessibility as well as safety. 998 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,480 Correct. 999 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,800 » Correct. Yeah. And we address all three 1000 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:36,280 things with this renovation which is uh 1001 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,280 highly suggested. 1002 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:47,599 All right, we'll uh move on to the uh 1003 00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:50,240 public comment uh section. Uh this is 1004 00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:52,240 for agenda and non-aggenda items. At 1005 00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:54,319 this time, only residents and taxpayers 1006 00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:56,079 of the Burrow of Forest Hills will be 1007 00:45:54,319 --> 00:45:57,599 permitted to address council on any 1008 00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:59,920 issue, whether appearing on today's 1009 00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:01,680 agenda or not. Speakers will be 1010 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:03,599 permitted to speak for a maximum of 5 1011 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,839 minutes. Groups of people will be 1012 00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:07,839 required to designate a spokesperson to 1013 00:46:05,839 --> 00:46:10,000 represent them who may speak for a 1014 00:46:07,839 --> 00:46:11,359 maximum of 10 minutes. Speakers are 1015 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,520 asked to use the microphone at the 1016 00:46:11,359 --> 00:46:15,680 speaker stand, clearly state your name 1017 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:18,640 and spell it, and state your address for 1018 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,079 the record. If you have any documents to 1019 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,920 share with council members, you may 1020 00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:24,640 present them to the burough manager. 1021 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,560 Now, council president will determine 1022 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,200 how those materials will be distributed 1023 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,040 and viewed for the meeting. Speakers are 1024 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,960 reminded that council uses these comment 1025 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,200 periods as opportunities to gather 1026 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:38,079 information and not to respond directly 1027 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,760 to concerns raised. Information gathered 1028 00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:41,520 will not be discussed at the meeting, 1029 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,520 but instead will be referred by the 1030 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,599 council president to the appropriate 1031 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,760 committee for review and discussion at 1032 00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:49,359 the next committee meeting. If it is not 1033 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,440 a matter for deliberation by a 1034 00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:53,119 committee, but requires more immediate 1035 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,440 attention, it will be referred to the 1036 00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:58,319 burough manager who will respond by 1037 00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,800 phone and/or email within five business 1038 00:46:58,319 --> 00:47:04,760 days following this meeting. Do we have 1039 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,760 any speakers this evening? 1040 00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:17,280 Bill Tamasic 140 Tang would drive. 1041 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:20,160 I come here to address an issue again 1042 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:23,839 since I've been doing it since January 1043 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:27,520 the 28th about these committee meetings 1044 00:47:23,839 --> 00:47:29,520 being closed to the public, meaning 1045 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,119 they're prohibited from coming to these 1046 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,720 meetings. 1047 00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:34,880 Um, 1048 00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:37,599 I come to these meetings. I watch them. 1049 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:39,920 I listen to people comment. I talk to 1050 00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:41,520 neighbors. You know, like somebody says 1051 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,280 they do talk to neighbors. Well, I don't 1052 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,040 know what they're talking about because 1053 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,880 not one 1054 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:52,480 » Has said to me that they are in favor of 1055 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:55,040 what this council is doing. Not one. Not 1056 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,920 one person said it's a good thing that 1057 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,520 the public can't come to these committee 1058 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,599 meetings. 1059 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:04,560 For real? 1060 00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:08,319 Is this for real? that we still have 1061 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:12,880 four people on this council that refuse 1062 00:48:08,319 --> 00:48:16,640 to listen to the will of the people. 1063 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:19,200 They listen to Bio and Lawrence because 1064 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:21,440 those two for sure and Lawrence even 1065 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:24,319 made the statement he doesn't want the 1066 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:27,280 public at these meetings. And that's why 1067 00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:29,359 I've used the word weasel even though 1068 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:32,319 people have said Bill that terminology 1069 00:48:29,359 --> 00:48:34,960 isn't really good. Where I grew up, you 1070 00:48:32,319 --> 00:48:37,119 call a spade a spade and a weasel a 1071 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,800 weasel. 1072 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:42,880 So 1073 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:44,880 your job is to service us. 1074 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,760 Excuse me. Am I interrupting something 1075 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,480 here? 1076 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,960 » And then to stop the name calling that 1077 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,960 enough. 1078 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,079 » This is what you call free speech. You 1079 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,520 understand what free speech is? 1080 00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:54,800 » Yeah, but there's no reason. 1081 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,160 » Excuse me. 1082 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,280 » I'm going to reclaim my thought. 1083 00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:01,760 » Excuse me. uh re please refrain from the 1084 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,119 name calling or you will be asked to 1085 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,599 leave. 1086 00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:08,720 » So moving forward, we'll deal with that 1087 00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:11,119 later on. Moving forward, 1088 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:14,640 we have a situation 1089 00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:17,520 that occurred on January 28th. 1090 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,200 I called Barb Martin or sent an email to 1091 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:22,400 Barb Martin Barton and said to her 1092 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:25,760 specifically, "Can 1093 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:29,119 I come to a committee meeting?" 1094 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:32,640 She says, "Bill, here's the date t date, 1095 00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:36,000 time, and place." Fine. Later in that 1096 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:38,000 same day, I get an email back from her. 1097 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:42,880 And before it's over, there are four 1098 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:46,160 people on that list. Drasta, Lawrence, 1099 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:48,800 Baioke, and Martin. And during this 1100 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:51,440 time, they kept telling me, I can't come 1101 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:54,800 to the meeting. This reason, that 1102 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:57,680 reason, three people, the law, etc. But 1103 00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:00,720 let me take you back to January 6th 1104 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:04,640 where you were all present. 1105 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:07,839 Mr. Bacon asked after all this stuff, 1106 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,839 can public be invited 1107 00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:13,520 if they have specific information to 1108 00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:16,160 contribute, Mr. Lawrence, there is 1109 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:20,640 nothing to prevent the committee chairs 1110 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:24,000 from inviting members of the public. 1111 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:27,599 Well, I'll be 1112 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:30,000 I'll be now after that meeting or after 1113 00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:32,720 those emails I should say. I called her 1114 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:35,760 and said, "Barb, what's going on?" And 1115 00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:37,440 she said, "Bill, we got a new council. I 1116 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,520 have to get along with these guys and I 1117 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,599 don't want to cause any trouble." And 1118 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:45,280 then I suggested to her that she stay 1119 00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:47,280 out of this. And by the way, these els 1120 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:50,400 are all documented. 1121 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:54,079 They're all documented. 1122 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:57,119 Okay? We can find them. So, why is it 1123 00:50:54,079 --> 00:51:00,319 that these three guys, in my opinion, 1124 00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:02,800 pressured B Martin 1125 00:51:00,319 --> 00:51:05,200 to uninvite me to the meeting? Because 1126 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,440 they're all on it, too. And it doesn't 1127 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:10,240 say 1128 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,440 anything about the the the president. It 1129 00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:15,280 doesn't say anything about the 1130 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:18,160 committee. It says the committee chair 1131 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:20,880 and there will be no problem with that 1132 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:23,440 person coming. So, I'm just wondering 1133 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:26,480 what's going on here. 1134 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:28,559 I'm just wondering what's going on. 1135 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:31,359 Can you explain it to me? I'll stay here 1136 00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:34,480 if you want me to. We can talk about 1137 00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:37,599 whatever you want. Name calling your 1138 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:39,839 actions. So, I'm going to again say I'll 1139 00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:41,599 be here at the next meeting and we'll go 1140 00:51:39,839 --> 00:51:43,839 through the same stuff all the way over 1141 00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:48,200 again and we will address what we call 1142 00:51:43,839 --> 00:51:48,200 free speech at that time. 1143 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,559 Thank you. Anyone else? 1144 00:51:54,880 --> 00:52:01,920 Okay. Uh we'll move on to our regular 1145 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:04,480 agenda. Uh committee reports. Mr. 1146 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,920 Lawrence, operations and policy. 1147 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,640 » Thank you, Mr. President. I have no 1148 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:11,040 motions tonight and I have no nothing to 1149 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,880 report them to the general topics. Thank 1150 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,040 you for your time, Mr. President. 1151 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:17,359 » Thank you, Mr. Lawrence. Finance 1152 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,119 Committee. Mr. Theelacer. Thank you, Mr. 1153 00:52:17,359 --> 00:52:20,720 President. We have one recommended 1154 00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:22,640 motion, and that's a motion to approve a 1155 00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:25,359 master services agreement between 1156 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,800 payarang aka corp and the burrow for 1157 00:52:25,359 --> 00:52:28,640 stills for the execution of vendor 1158 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,960 payment services for a period of one 1159 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:33,359 year subject to the solicitor's final 1160 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,599 approval. I'm going to ask Miss Watt to 1161 00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:39,839 maybe explain explain that to everyone 1162 00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:42,240 here. So corp also known as payaring 1163 00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:46,400 they were a merger merger of companies a 1164 00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:47,920 while back is a digital pay payment 1165 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:51,200 payment vendor third party payment 1166 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,640 vendor uh one endeavor of the finance 1167 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,119 committee over the last several years 1168 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:58,319 has been to source digital payments in 1169 00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:59,839 the year 2026 a large portion of our 1170 00:52:58,319 --> 00:53:03,119 payments as the bureau are still through 1171 00:52:59,839 --> 00:53:04,720 check which are right for fraud and for 1172 00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:07,520 you know other checking schemes that 1173 00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:10,720 currently do exist What corpay does is 1174 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:13,359 core pay takes the funds that we execute 1175 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:15,440 through a file. They distribute to our 1176 00:53:13,359 --> 00:53:20,000 vendors either through the methods of 1177 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:22,480 check or virtual credit card or AC that 1178 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:24,880 therefore they manage that relationship 1179 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,400 with the vendor and they also execute 1180 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,520 payment. 1181 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:31,119 The goal is because other communic 1182 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:34,319 communities in the western Pennsylvania 1183 00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:36,720 area also utilize this service is that 1184 00:53:34,319 --> 00:53:39,040 many of our vendors are the same. Many 1185 00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:41,200 of them they've already turned into a or 1186 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:43,920 virtual credit card services. Through 1187 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:46,400 this process, not only do we de become 1188 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:48,240 more efficient and perform risk 1189 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:51,520 management activities to divert fraud in 1190 00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:53,520 a small staff, but now we save the money 1191 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,599 or have the potential of saving money 1192 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,760 from paying for envelopes, check 1193 00:53:55,599 --> 00:54:00,160 printing, the labor involved in that as 1194 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:03,040 well as postage. And now we have the 1195 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:05,359 opportunity to earn a either break even 1196 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,359 or earn a small rebate by moving 1197 00:54:05,359 --> 00:54:09,440 everyone to the AC and virtual credit 1198 00:54:07,359 --> 00:54:11,040 card services. We understand that some 1199 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,880 check payments may remain for smaller 1200 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,800 vendors, but on a whole, this will make 1201 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:18,440 a large shift in the way that we perform 1202 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,440 business as a bureau. 1203 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:27,040 » Thank you. And from my general report, 1204 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:29,040 um it was talked about Sorry, question. 1205 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,359 M if you could just have a brief 1206 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,119 explanation as well of what this would 1207 00:54:31,359 --> 00:54:35,119 change for residents whether this is 1208 00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:38,880 something they would notice or this is 1209 00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:40,480 behind the scenes operations 1210 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,000 no change to residents unless for some 1211 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,559 reason we would have to pay you through 1212 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,800 a refund process of some sort but we 1213 00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:49,359 most we don't offer many refunds on a 1214 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,800 whole that involve residents. the 1215 00:54:49,359 --> 00:54:54,960 biggest change maybe to any resident 1216 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:56,559 that may be a vendor uh such as a great 1217 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,319 example would be uh our fitness 1218 00:54:56,559 --> 00:55:00,640 instructors things along those lines 1219 00:54:58,319 --> 00:55:03,040 that would be a 1099 blade. 1220 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:05,520 » Thank you. 1221 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,040 » Little else 1222 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,720 you and then from my general report I 1223 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:11,599 think the only thing I have is as part 1224 00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:12,720 of the next year's budgetary process and 1225 00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:13,760 preparing for that we're doing some 1226 00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:16,400 things different with the new bureau 1227 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:18,079 manager and how we conduct the uh budget 1228 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,920 preparation process. So you saw some 1229 00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:21,920 presentations tonight. We're also having 1230 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,440 some specific budget meetings as well, 1231 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,760 which we've never really had before, 1232 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,440 meetings just on the budget. So those 1233 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,040 are available. You know, there's a Zoom 1234 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,280 link. They're on YouTube. They're all 1235 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,200 public meetings to come discuss and uh 1236 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:36,240 listen in on the the budgetary planning 1237 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,599 process. So believe that's all I have. 1238 00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:40,880 Thank you, Mr. President. 1239 00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:42,160 » Thank you, Mr. Thelacer. Um B property, 1240 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,160 Mr. Bacon. 1241 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,760 » Thank you, Mr. President. Uh we do have 1242 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,400 a recommended motion that we'd like to 1243 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:50,400 place on the business meeting agenda uh 1244 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:53,040 which is to authorize the bro manager to 1245 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:56,640 apply for the Birdtown 2026 miniigrant 1246 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:58,880 program which is provided by the DCNR 1247 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:01,520 environmental stewardship fund and this 1248 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:04,319 would be for $1,000 on behalf of the 1249 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:06,000 burough and the environmental advisory 1250 00:56:04,319 --> 00:56:08,720 council. 1251 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:12,480 We met with uh several of the involved 1252 00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:14,799 uh EAC people in the last property 1253 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:17,599 committee meeting. Um and I think they 1254 00:56:14,799 --> 00:56:19,599 have a very realistic scope for this and 1255 00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:21,839 we recommend moving forward as a 1256 00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:25,280 committee. 1257 00:56:21,839 --> 00:56:27,040 » Anybody have any questions? 1258 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,440 » Do have one item note and this is my 1259 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:32,799 error. Um the next meeting is on 1260 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:35,200 September 16th. Uh the deadline for this 1261 00:56:32,799 --> 00:56:37,359 grant is actually September 15th and 1262 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,119 this is I do apologize for this. So if 1263 00:56:37,359 --> 00:56:40,799 we would like to move forward with this, 1264 00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:44,119 we would have to amend to make that an 1265 00:56:40,799 --> 00:56:44,119 actual motion. 1266 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:49,760 » Okay. So I believe I would move to amend 1267 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:52,720 the agenda tonight to include this as a 1268 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:56,119 motion. Is that correct? 1269 00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:56,119 » Second that. 1270 00:56:57,359 --> 00:57:03,440 So, can we have a voice vote uh for that 1271 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,720 uh going on the agenda this evening? All 1272 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:08,480 in favor say I. 1273 00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:11,839 » I opposed. 1274 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:13,440 » Motion carries. 1275 00:57:11,839 --> 00:57:16,240 » Okay. And now that that is on the 1276 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:18,640 agenda, I move to authorize the burough 1277 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,799 manager to apply for the Birdtown 2026 1278 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,240 miniigrant program provided by the DCNR 1279 00:57:20,799 --> 00:57:24,319 environmental stewardship fund in the 1280 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,720 amount of $1,000 on behalf of the bureau 1281 00:57:24,319 --> 00:57:28,799 and its environmental advisory council. 1282 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:32,000 Second 1283 00:57:28,799 --> 00:57:33,839 » Questions or comments? 1284 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:37,799 Have a voice vote, please. All in favor 1285 00:57:33,839 --> 00:57:37,799 say I. I 1286 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,440 motion carries. 1287 00:57:42,799 --> 00:57:46,880 Thank you everyone. As a general report, 1288 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,799 I have two items uh just to bring to 1289 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,960 everyone's attention that the burough 1290 00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:53,760 property committee was discussing this 1291 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:58,079 month. Uh one of them is that there is 1292 00:57:53,760 --> 00:58:01,040 an EV charger program that connect um 1293 00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:02,720 and other entities are offering. We 1294 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,480 discussed it as something that is 1295 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:07,119 probably out of scope for anything the 1296 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:09,839 bureau would really have plans for at 1297 00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:12,240 the moment. Um but it is actually 1298 00:58:09,839 --> 00:58:16,240 something that can be acted upon by 1299 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:18,880 private businesses. Uh so for example uh 1300 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:21,920 maybe one of the shopping plaza owners 1301 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:26,880 could apply for this program and get 80% 1302 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:29,280 of the cost covered for some uh uh level 1303 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:33,200 three fast chargers or something like 1304 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:35,680 that. Um and then at the end of 5 years 1305 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,680 they want they have to pay 20% and at 1306 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,839 the end of 5 years they wind up owning 1307 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:42,400 the whole thing which could be highly 1308 00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:45,040 advantageous for them uh for getting a 1309 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:47,119 whole lot of money. So uh I think we 1310 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:49,440 just are going to try and pass along 1311 00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:51,359 this information. Perhaps Mayor DeMarco 1312 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:54,960 can lead the way in this just in hopes 1313 00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:57,200 that maybe uh one of our bro 1314 00:58:54,960 --> 00:59:00,160 not burrow property owners but property 1315 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:02,319 owners within the burrow might find this 1316 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,160 interesting and useful if they were 1317 00:59:02,319 --> 00:59:05,280 perhaps on the fence of such a thing 1318 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,400 would be beneficial. 1319 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:11,280 » Thank you. I'd be happy to do that. 1320 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:14,559 The other item is uh we were discussing 1321 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:17,520 uh Cliffwood Park and also discussing uh 1322 00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:19,760 the possibility of community gardens in 1323 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:22,000 the future and I think we had a very 1324 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:25,200 productive conversation where a couple 1325 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,760 of our community um garden advocates had 1326 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:32,160 actually taken a look at Cliffwood Park 1327 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:33,839 and we think that uh as the burough uh 1328 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,799 property committee that it would 1329 00:59:33,839 --> 00:59:37,760 actually be a very promising 1330 00:59:36,799 --> 00:59:41,280 uh site. 1331 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:44,319 for a pilot test program of a small 1332 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:47,599 community garden. Uh they proposed for 2 1333 00:59:44,319 --> 00:59:49,359 years, give it a try. Um so we're not 1334 00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:51,920 ready to propose anything quite yet, but 1335 00:59:49,359 --> 00:59:53,680 I want to let council know as I think we 1336 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,000 are going to seek some opinions of 1337 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:59,119 residents in the area as it's a very 1338 00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:01,359 small community. Um it's kind of its own 1339 00:59:59,119 --> 01:00:04,640 isolated part of the burrow which has 1340 01:00:01,359 --> 01:00:06,799 several bonuses for having options of a 1341 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:09,280 community garden. So, we should have 1342 01:00:06,799 --> 01:00:11,760 more on that. I expect we will have uh 1343 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:13,280 some sort of recommended motion next 1344 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,960 month once we've gathered more 1345 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,520 information. And if you had thoughts on 1346 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,040 that, please let us know. Unless there 1347 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,160 are further questions, that concludes 1348 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,640 Burough Property. 1349 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,720 » Thank you, Mr. Bacon. 1350 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:27,680 Planning and zoning. Miss Lewis is not 1351 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:29,839 here. Do we have someone that can cover 1352 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,040 that for her? 1353 01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:32,160 » I don't think we have anything. Mr. 1354 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,400 Brett, do you have anything under 1355 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:37,280 planning and zoning separate from your 1356 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,640 report earlier? Nope. Nothing. I got 1357 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:42,280 That's it then. 1358 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,280 » Thank you, Mr. Stelacer. 1359 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:49,000 » Next item is public works committee. 1360 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,000 Miss Martin 1361 01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:55,599 would uh Mr. D. Costa. 1362 01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:58,640 » Sure. We have a recommended motion to 1363 01:00:55,599 --> 01:01:01,359 adopt ordinance number 1129 to prohibit 1364 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:03,440 parking at all times on the west side of 1365 01:01:01,359 --> 01:01:06,079 Atlantic Avenue between Cook Park and 1366 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:09,200 Marian Avenue. Establish one-way 1367 01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:12,480 roadways on Wilkins Road and Pacific 1368 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:14,880 Avenue. Amend speeds posted on certain 1369 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:17,680 burough roadways and amend the burough 1370 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:20,960 street map to rename service roads and 1371 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:22,640 unnamed alleys. 1372 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,880 This has been in the works for a long 1373 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,720 time. We're finally getting it to a 1374 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,440 closure here. So, are there any 1375 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,720 questions? 1376 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:34,079 » We we discussed this. This was um put 1377 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:36,000 out for u advertisement and now that it 1378 01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:37,680 has been advertised now we're 1379 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,440 » Finalizing it official. 1380 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:42,400 » Yeah. 1381 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:44,160 » If if I could one question I think and I 1382 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,640 could be wrong but this is just updating 1383 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:48,559 a bunch of current separate ordinances 1384 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,559 into one ordinance. It's not changing 1385 01:01:48,559 --> 01:01:51,920 anything necessarily. It's just putting 1386 01:01:50,559 --> 01:01:53,760 them in one ordinance instead of 1387 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,040 multiple separate ordinances. 1388 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,799 » No, there's some changes. 1389 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:58,640 » Changes. There are changes. 1390 01:01:56,799 --> 01:02:01,359 » Yeah. 1391 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:02,640 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The name in the alleys 1392 01:02:01,359 --> 01:02:07,359 the traffic 1393 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:09,520 » Control measures are um 1394 01:02:07,359 --> 01:02:10,079 » They've been deployed I guess but not 1395 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:13,240 enforced. 1396 01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:13,240 » Yeah. Yeah. 1397 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:19,920 » All right. Um we also are recommending a 1398 01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:23,520 motion to accept or reject the 2627 1399 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:26,400 SHA COG purchasing alliance rock salt 1400 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:29,280 rebid results. Um, so from what I 1401 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:31,440 understand, um, 1402 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,520 we are, um, we're still going through 1403 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:35,040 bids on some of those. Is that 1404 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,680 » I'd be happy to take it from here if you 1405 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:41,119 don't mind. So, yeah. So, we we carry 1406 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:42,640 two cooperative purchasing agreements 1407 01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:44,799 with co-stars, which is on the state 1408 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:48,079 level, and Shayog, which is regional. 1409 01:02:44,799 --> 01:02:49,839 Uh, the reason we carry two is diversify 1410 01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:51,200 vendors and supply. If anyone heard in 1411 01:02:49,839 --> 01:02:53,440 the news last year, there was issues 1412 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:56,079 with supply with salt. We carry two of 1413 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,680 them also for to secure separate pricing 1414 01:02:56,079 --> 01:03:00,400 as well in the case of what I'm going to 1415 01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:02,720 explain next. Current last year the 1416 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:06,000 contract that we had through Shaycog was 1417 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:09,200 at approximately $88 per ton. Uh this 1418 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:13,839 year the current bid came in at60 near 1419 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:16,000 $160 per ton. That is a almost 100 that 1420 01:03:13,839 --> 01:03:18,160 is over 100% increase almost 100% 1421 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:21,920 increase right there. The question right 1422 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:27,359 now is do we accept that to maintain 1423 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:30,400 supply or do we diversify with a 1424 01:03:27,359 --> 01:03:33,039 individual contract in with a vendor 1425 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,960 because right now co-stars and shake 1426 01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:38,640 would be the same vendor which would not 1427 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:41,280 diversify diversify our supply chain. We 1428 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:43,039 are still evaluating our public works 1429 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,359 foreman is still evaluating what our 1430 01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:47,280 other options are because under these 1431 01:03:45,359 --> 01:03:48,960 contracts we have a minimum to purchase. 1432 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,599 So we would be locking in a certain 1433 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:53,599 amount at that increased uh price per 1434 01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:55,599 ton. So we will have more information 1435 01:03:53,599 --> 01:03:57,760 for you ahead of next meeting but we 1436 01:03:55,599 --> 01:04:00,960 have to make a decision on this because 1437 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:04,160 October 10th uh we are we must have a 1438 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:06,240 response back on the Shayog contract. 1439 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,480 You are not the only municipality that 1440 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:10,880 is addressing this in this fashion. 1441 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:13,440 » Well, many are rejecting because of 1442 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,720 this, but we have multiple factors in 1443 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,079 the east side. We have a lot more 1444 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:19,280 factors to consider than some of the 1445 01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:21,280 other regions of the city of the county. 1446 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:23,680 » Thank you. 1447 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,520 This is the cross. 1448 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,599 So, we also have a motion to approve 1449 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:31,680 change order number one of contract 1450 01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:35,839 number 25 SW1 Forest Hills Park PRP 1451 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:37,280 project with Kronin Enterprises LLC. 1452 01:04:35,839 --> 01:04:37,680 Uh, Mr. Brett, did you want to comment 1453 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,079 on that? 1454 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:42,480 » Yeah, it's uh for asbelt quantities uh 1455 01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:44,640 on the project and then their final bill 1456 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,400 will 1457 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:48,559 » And another motion to approve change 1458 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:51,760 order number two. This is a final change 1459 01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:55,440 order of contract number 251 1460 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:58,480 2025 roadway improvement program with a 1461 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,440 Liberon Inc. 1462 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,079 » Any [clears throat] questions about 1463 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,559 that? 1464 01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:05,880 » Same deal there. And it's a uh reduction 1465 01:05:02,559 --> 01:05:05,880 as well. 1466 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,280 » No general report on this. Oh yes, Mr. 1467 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,920 Bacon. 1468 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,520 » Um I think a question for Mr. Brett just 1469 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,960 to confirm we didn't miss anything 1470 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,839 between burrow property and public 1471 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:23,359 works. There was the change order for 1472 01:05:17,839 --> 01:05:26,079 the um the grant uh area over by Arnold. 1473 01:05:23,359 --> 01:05:30,000 » Yes, we will have that for the agenda. 1474 01:05:26,079 --> 01:05:32,079 Um it'll be to take you up very close to 1475 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:35,200 the total amount of the grant, just 1476 01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:36,960 slightly under. So, um we're going back 1477 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:40,079 and forth at Liberon on the last piece 1478 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:42,160 of it. So, it's about a $80,000 1479 01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:44,960 change order to spend the rest of the 1480 01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:47,520 money uh on the steps in that area. 1481 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:49,839 We'll have that in the next day or so. 1482 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:52,640 » So, should we assume that would be a 1483 01:05:49,839 --> 01:05:54,240 motion in one of those sections? I think 1484 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,960 we've been consistently doing burough 1485 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,240 property. 1486 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,640 » Yeah. Okay. 1487 01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:00,079 » Yes, we we'll need to have that in uh I 1488 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,760 want to have it signed by them before 1489 01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:02,079 you take action. 1490 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,599 » Okay. 1491 01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:06,640 » We should have it for your meeting. 1492 01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:08,400 » Okay. Thank you. 1493 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:10,799 » That's it. General report. 1494 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,839 » Okay. Thank you. You're up again. Public 1495 01:06:10,799 --> 01:06:13,599 safety. 1496 01:06:11,839 --> 01:06:16,079 » Yes. So, we have a recommended motion to 1497 01:06:13,599 --> 01:06:19,359 adopt uh resolution number 1308 1498 01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:21,839 approving the 2026 edition of the 1499 01:06:19,359 --> 01:06:23,520 emergency operations plan of the bur of 1500 01:06:21,839 --> 01:06:26,400 burough forest hills, Alageney County, 1501 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:29,280 Pennsylvania. Um so, um all of our first 1502 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:32,240 responders and the mayor met um to 1503 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:35,760 discuss some of the holes and updates to 1504 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:37,440 the emergency operations plan. Um, so, 1505 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,119 uh, Miss Watt has been, you know, 1506 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:41,760 dealing with sort of a final version of 1507 01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:43,599 that and, uh, we hope to have something, 1508 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:47,000 you know, to approve in the next 1509 01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:47,000 business meeting. 1510 01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:51,359 Have no general report at this time. I 1511 01:06:49,839 --> 01:06:52,960 do have a piece of new business I'll 1512 01:06:51,359 --> 01:06:55,599 bring up in the next section. 1513 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:58,160 » Thank you, Mr. Drasta. 1514 01:06:55,599 --> 01:07:00,720 » Okay. Uh, we're on to old business, 1515 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:05,039 which we have none. Under new business, 1516 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:07,520 we have five recommended motions. Who 1517 01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:09,039 would like to tackle that? 1518 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:11,520 » Before you get to those, could I bring 1519 01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:15,280 up a conversation that I had with Yeah. 1520 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:17,200 So, with Chief, um, he is asking, so 1521 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,920 we've already requested this money in 1522 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:22,160 the upcoming budget. um pretty sure that 1523 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:24,160 would be adopted, but he has the need to 1524 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:27,039 start the process on purchasing a new 1525 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:28,960 VIA police vehicle for the next uh 1526 01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:32,240 budget year and would like to get 1527 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:34,319 started on that um as soon as he can. 1528 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:36,319 So, by the time the car shows up, it 1529 01:07:34,319 --> 01:07:38,319 will be the new budget year. I'm not 1530 01:07:36,319 --> 01:07:40,480 sure how that would work, if that needs 1531 01:07:38,319 --> 01:07:42,960 to be in the new business or at the next 1532 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:44,720 business meeting or if we have to wait 1533 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,480 until the budget is approved to go 1534 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,720 through that. So, I just wanted to bring 1535 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,559 that up. 1536 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,960 Just to clarify, I think we were talking 1537 01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:54,319 about Mr. Cross. So, we were talking 1538 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,720 about the purchase of the vehicle that 1539 01:07:54,319 --> 01:07:59,200 was already approved. Correct. 1540 01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:02,200 » Um Um No, I don't believe this one was 1541 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,200 approved. 1542 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:08,480 » 27 vehicle that was obviously has to be 1543 01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:10,240 ordered in 2026. 1544 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,160 I'm not sure if you did approve that or 1545 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,920 didn't. We'd have to look back and see. 1546 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:16,719 All I'm looking for at this particular 1547 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:19,839 time is the option to make 1548 01:08:16,719 --> 01:08:22,080 the purchase legal with the person who's 1549 01:08:19,839 --> 01:08:23,679 going to provide us the vehicle. So 1550 01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:26,880 basically, I want to place an order with 1551 01:08:23,679 --> 01:08:28,560 them to order the vehicle that probably 1552 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,239 in the end never gets here until after 1553 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:33,359 January, which would be the part of the 1554 01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:36,239 27 year. And that would be a 27 vehicle 1555 01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:37,679 as well. 1556 01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:39,679 to look back to see if we've already 1557 01:08:37,679 --> 01:08:41,359 approved this or not, but I'm not if we 1558 01:08:39,679 --> 01:08:43,920 haven't, I'm not sure what the next step 1559 01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:46,960 would be. 1560 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:50,640 » Yeah, we we need to look uh I'm pretty 1561 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:53,920 sure that we did approve uh the purchase 1562 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:55,359 for for if it was for last year or for 1563 01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,679 the current year. Hey, that's my 1564 01:08:55,359 --> 01:09:00,640 problem. We we but we did approve a 1565 01:08:57,679 --> 01:09:03,440 purchase that and we did we did or did 1566 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:05,440 not make the uh 1567 01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:07,040 purchase 1568 01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:08,960 this year. 1569 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,880 » We did that one. Yes, we received the 1570 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:13,040 one we ordered last year, we received it 1571 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:15,040 this year. Just the same situation here 1572 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:17,040 where we order it this year, but we 1573 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:19,759 don't get it till next year. And you 1574 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:21,759 know, there's always a delay in these 1575 01:09:19,759 --> 01:09:24,400 things and you know, police vehicles are 1576 01:09:21,759 --> 01:09:26,000 set on a certain track where they they 1577 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,679 put them in at a certain time and they 1578 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,120 do all the police vehicles at once and 1579 01:09:27,679 --> 01:09:31,040 usually it's at the end of the year like 1580 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:33,199 this, but we need to place our order to 1581 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:35,679 let them know what we want so that we 1582 01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:37,359 can get it in that timely fashion 1583 01:09:35,679 --> 01:09:38,960 hopefully, which isn't really timely 1584 01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:41,759 when you say it's going to be January, 1585 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:44,799 but that's how it work. 1586 01:09:41,759 --> 01:09:46,560 » If I may, Mr. Corbal though to reserve 1587 01:09:44,799 --> 01:09:47,920 or place an order. We do not have to 1588 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,440 make a formal motion. We can just 1589 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,199 authorize that. But to make the actual 1590 01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:53,199 formal motion and enter in the purchase 1591 01:09:51,199 --> 01:09:54,480 agreement, that is what we would do in 1592 01:09:53,199 --> 01:09:57,480 2027. 1593 01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:57,480 » Yeah. 1594 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:05,360 » Yeah. That's all I have. Thank you. 1595 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:09,600 » Okay. Now, on to the recommended 1596 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:11,520 motions. These five. Would uh Miss Lot 1597 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:14,159 would you care to 1598 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:16,880 » I'll be happy to I'll be happy to review 1599 01:10:14,159 --> 01:10:18,560 them and then 1600 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,480 a member of council will make the motion 1601 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,159 at the formal meeting. The first three 1602 01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:24,480 are related to our minimum municipal 1603 01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:26,239 obligations or MMOs. For those that are 1604 01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:29,040 not familiar, as a part of defined 1605 01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:30,719 benefit or defined contribution plans, 1606 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:33,360 we're required to set aside amount 1607 01:10:30,719 --> 01:10:36,000 determined by our actuaries to bring us 1608 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:38,000 to a a certain amount to fulfill the 1609 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,840 plan. uh to a certain funding 1610 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,280 percentage. There are three on here 1611 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,440 because we have the defined benefit 1612 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:45,360 pension plan for our police pension. We 1613 01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:47,920 have that for our non-uniform defined 1614 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:49,520 benefit and for our non-uniform defined 1615 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:52,480 contribution. 1616 01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:57,040 The minimum municipal obligation for the 1617 01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:58,800 pension plan for police is $65,263. 1618 01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:02,080 This would bring us to a required 1619 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:04,880 funding percentage. The 1620 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:06,480 for the non-uniform defined benefit, we 1621 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:09,120 have an amount of zero. We are at a 1622 01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:11,920 funding status, but we also have started 1623 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:14,080 to phase out this plan to the defined 1624 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,440 contribution which is next. The defined 1625 01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:18,080 contribution one on the other hand is 1626 01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:20,159 $25,656 1627 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,760 that is set at the rate of that we have 1628 01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:23,360 determined as contributions for 1629 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:26,239 employees and these are made on an 1630 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:27,760 ongoing basis. The MMO for the defined 1631 01:11:26,239 --> 01:11:29,440 benefit for police though on the other 1632 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,360 hand is made in a lump sum generally 1633 01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:33,600 after state fund or state aid is 1634 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:35,679 received. We are required as 1635 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:37,679 administrative officials to present this 1636 01:11:35,679 --> 01:11:40,159 to council and have them make a motion 1637 01:11:37,679 --> 01:11:42,480 to accept uh so that everyone is aware 1638 01:11:40,159 --> 01:11:43,760 that these are occurring as well and we 1639 01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:46,320 must sign off after the meeting and 1640 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:50,480 provide proof of such. Are there any 1641 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:55,199 questions on those three motions? 1642 01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:57,520 » Um one, two, three, and five should 1643 01:11:55,199 --> 01:11:58,800 probably go under finance. 1644 01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:02,480 » Yep. 1645 01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:05,480 And the number four would be under 1646 01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:05,480 operations 1647 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,920 » To four me. 1648 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:10,480 » Can I move on to four? 1649 01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,480 » Yes. Okay. 1650 01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:15,520 » Of course. Sorry you you hadn't talked 1651 01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:18,000 about that, but four should go ups. 1652 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,679 » Four will go under UPS. Okay. So for 1653 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,719 number four, that would be a res 1654 01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:22,239 resolution amending the 1655 01:12:20,719 --> 01:12:23,600 intergovernmental cooperation agreement 1656 01:12:22,239 --> 01:12:25,679 with Wilkins Township for joint 1657 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:28,719 operation of the sewer vector truck. We 1658 01:12:25,679 --> 01:12:30,880 have this A in place. However, in a 1659 01:12:28,719 --> 01:12:34,080 review, we carry the insurance currently 1660 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:36,800 in this round of sharing the equipment 1661 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:40,000 for the sewer truck. This is simply 1662 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:42,719 tidying up the language to codify the 1663 01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:45,920 fact that we split these costs as well 1664 01:12:42,719 --> 01:12:49,760 as the fact that in the event of an 1665 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:52,480 incident that the in the group or I 1666 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:54,320 should say the organization operating or 1667 01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:55,920 housing or taking responsibility for the 1668 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:58,480 vehicle at the time would also be 1669 01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:00,320 responsible for the deductible. To this 1670 01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:02,159 point in this agreement, we have never 1671 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:04,320 had an incident. However, this would 1672 01:13:02,159 --> 01:13:07,120 clearly distinguish who is responsible 1673 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:08,719 for what and when. and essentially 1674 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:11,920 codifies what our operations have been 1675 01:13:08,719 --> 01:13:13,440 to date. Otherwise, 1676 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:16,760 Wilkins would present this later in the 1677 01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:16,760 month as well. 1678 01:13:18,719 --> 01:13:24,640 » All right. Um number five, this is an 1679 01:13:21,679 --> 01:13:27,545 ordinance to amend the uh non-uniform 1680 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,239 employee pension plan. Um 1681 01:13:27,545 --> 01:13:30,719 [clears throat] 1682 01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:33,679 the uh plan administrator discovered a 1683 01:13:30,719 --> 01:13:36,560 gap in the plan. um nothing to be 1684 01:13:33,679 --> 01:13:38,719 concerned about. But um basically when 1685 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,800 the bureau contributes money to the plan 1686 01:13:38,719 --> 01:13:43,679 on behalf of an employee, sort of the 1687 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:45,360 match, if you will, that money cannot be 1688 01:13:43,679 --> 01:13:47,920 removed from the plan. It must stay 1689 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:50,320 there under law. Um and we did not have 1690 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:52,640 a provision as to how those dollars were 1691 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:54,880 treated. So this amends the plan to say 1692 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:57,679 that those dollars remain in the plan 1693 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:59,679 and they are credited towards a future 1694 01:13:57,679 --> 01:14:02,080 contribution that the bureau may need to 1695 01:13:59,679 --> 01:14:04,480 make on behalf of an 1696 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:07,440 if there's an extra $100 in there and 1697 01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:09,760 employee B's match this month was $100, 1698 01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:13,280 we can just credit that without actually 1699 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:16,080 making the contribution. Very um simple 1700 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:19,520 but necessary change. So that'll be on 1701 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:21,360 for a motion to advertise and uh you all 1702 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:25,480 will consider it'll be for your 1703 01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:25,480 consideration in October. 1704 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:30,199 » Anyone else? Any questions? 1705 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:36,080 » No. Okay. Our next schedule I did have 1706 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,520 one thing I wanted to mention 1707 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,080 » Decision. We have to amend the agenda 1708 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:38,320 for this. 1709 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,080 » Okay. 1710 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,320 » That's right. That's exactly right. So, 1711 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:44,800 first I want to announce that council um 1712 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:48,080 held an executive session um prior to 1713 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:50,320 this meeting to discuss uh legal issues 1714 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:53,120 uh personnel issues, collective 1715 01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:55,920 bargaining um and to receive the advice 1716 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:58,800 of the solicitor and will be meeting in 1717 01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:01,280 ad uh following the meeting the next 1718 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,440 meeting on September 16th to discuss 1719 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:06,960 collective bargaining. And then we do 1720 01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:10,400 have a a motion that to amend the agenda 1721 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:13,840 again for another motion 1722 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,840 be considered this evening. 1723 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:26,159 And this is a motion um to allow the 1724 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:31,199 burrow manager to enter in a contract in 1725 01:15:26,159 --> 01:15:34,560 into a contract with Orion the Omazing 1726 01:15:31,199 --> 01:15:37,199 for services to be rendered at the 911 1727 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:39,600 commemoration event in the amount of 1728 01:15:37,199 --> 01:15:41,760 $500. 1729 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:45,760 would be a at this point a motion to 1730 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:49,719 amend to add that motion that the 1731 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,719 president read to the agenda. 1732 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:58,239 Does anyone want to make the motion? 1733 01:15:54,960 --> 01:16:00,960 » Okay, Mr. Lawrence, 1734 01:15:58,239 --> 01:16:02,480 anyone second? 1735 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:05,840 » Okay, 1736 01:16:02,480 --> 01:16:07,440 any questions or comments? 1737 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:12,159 Hey, we'll have a voice vote, please. 1738 01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:14,239 All in favor say I. I opposed. 1739 01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:16,640 Motion passes. 1740 01:16:14,239 --> 01:16:19,360 Now we need a 1741 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:21,199 motion. 1742 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:23,920 Okay, good. I didn't want to have to 1743 01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:27,600 read it again. Okay. Does uh someone 1744 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:31,120 want to make the motion to 1745 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:33,360 enter into the contract? 1746 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:36,159 » I'll make the motion to enter into the 1747 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:37,040 contract. 1748 01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:38,320 » One second. 1749 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,199 » Second. 1750 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:44,480 Okay, I have a voice vote, please. All 1751 01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:46,719 in favor say I. I. 1752 01:16:44,480 --> 01:16:49,040 » Opposed. 1753 01:16:46,719 --> 01:16:52,320 Motion carries. 1754 01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:54,159 Okay, I believe that concludes our 1755 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:56,080 business this evening. Our next 1756 01:16:54,159 --> 01:17:00,880 scheduled council meeting will be 1757 01:16:56,080 --> 01:17:04,800 Wednesday, September the 7 16th at 700 1758 01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:07,520 p.m. here in council chambers. Um unless 1759 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:10,000 there's any objection this meeting will 1760 01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:11,840 be adjourned 1761 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:14,840 hearing none this meeting is now 1762 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,840 adjourned. 1763 01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:18,640 Stop.