1 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,600 Thank you. 2 00:01:42,320 --> 00:02:06,560 I'm just a little bit in it, but I have a really, really dark circle, and I want to put it in the whole time anyway. 3 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:18,080 Yeah, but it's pretty much what's the last time you just kind of have the trial by the trial and error, that's what you're going to have 4 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:35,220 I was pretty much it's a lot of moving parts I get that 5 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:52,380 But I need to go, so I think I've almost started to gather here, I'm not sure if it's going to turn to some of those pictures. 6 00:02:53,340 --> 00:02:57,000 You're saying they're going to have three book, everybody's going to have a chair. 7 00:02:59,940 --> 00:03:01,740 Yeah, that's what you start. 8 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:02,900 That's where you really start. 9 00:03:03,620 --> 00:03:05,160 Actually, definitely really somebody. 10 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,880 Things like these. 11 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,500 That might as a man that I don't know. 12 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:12,740 Yeah. 13 00:03:14,100 --> 00:03:16,740 So, uh, it wasn't music here. 14 00:03:17,980 --> 00:03:20,060 There was a whole lot of people there. 15 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,000 There was a whole lot of people there. 16 00:03:21,380 --> 00:03:26,980 It was a whole lot of people there. 17 00:05:07,700 --> 00:05:12,140 There's the size of the antelopes, it's the state of the kayak and the docking. 18 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,060 There's something that I want to see. 19 00:05:14,300 --> 00:05:17,760 Some posts and died on a minute after they heard that. 20 00:05:18,060 --> 00:05:18,420 Look at this. 21 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,180 I like that. 22 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,680 What's the one that does that? 23 00:05:23,540 --> 00:05:24,300 And that's over. 24 00:05:24,900 --> 00:05:25,800 Do we don't get it? 25 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:27,620 There's nothing else. 26 00:05:30,780 --> 00:05:33,000 There's a clear number of answers. 27 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,800 There's a clear number of answers. 28 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,000 All right, it is seven o'clock. We'll call this meeting order. 29 00:06:23,450 --> 00:06:24,690 Bailey, can we get a roll call? 30 00:06:25,030 --> 00:06:26,190 Councilmember Baccus. 31 00:06:28,010 --> 00:06:28,930 Councilmember Bain. 32 00:06:29,930 --> 00:06:30,990 Councilmember Hasnick. 33 00:06:31,710 --> 00:06:32,670 Councilmember Eidner. 34 00:06:32,870 --> 00:06:33,030 Here. 35 00:06:33,350 --> 00:06:34,070 And Mayor Winnie. 36 00:06:34,070 --> 00:06:37,910 Sir, ask everybody to rise for pledge of legions. 37 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:47,940 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands. 38 00:06:48,740 --> 00:06:54,160 One nation, one on the back, and it is all, but never to need justice for all. 39 00:07:02,580 --> 00:07:04,220 I look for motion to approve the agenda. 40 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:05,260 The move. 41 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:06,340 Second. 42 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:07,820 All those in favor? 43 00:07:09,220 --> 00:07:09,920 Motion carries. 44 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,120 It brings us to open form. 45 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,320 Mark Woodell. 46 00:07:35,820 --> 00:07:36,840 Mark Woodell. 47 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,360 Mark Woodell, 9509 North Shore Trail, Forest Lake. 48 00:07:41,580 --> 00:07:44,180 My concerns are with lift station 12. 49 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:50,820 I'll just quickly read through this, because if I try to just recite and we might be here well. 50 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:57,280 In the 1960s, the sanitary sewer system servicing lake homes in the reinforced lake 51 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,500 temperature was installed. 52 00:07:59,420 --> 00:08:02,680 At that time, there were still many summer homes around the lake. 53 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,580 The system seemed to be adequate for what it served. 54 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:12,540 By the late 1970s, the homes on force like a change can mostly year round homes, and some 55 00:08:12,540 --> 00:08:15,680 off lake areas had been added to the sanitary sewer system. 56 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,300 The problems in the source system arose and the homes were being flooded. 57 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:27,780 We live in the area of LISTATION 12 that we're going to next to it to the south of it. 58 00:08:28,460 --> 00:08:34,140 Three homes in this area have been flooded and have the potential for backflow problems. 59 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,620 The sewer pipe in our home enters at the mean floor level. 60 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,920 In our home the backflow and overflow the toilet and tub runs through the back portion of our home. 61 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:51,960 Don the basement steps, flood the basement, flowing at some pit, and we would be pumped 62 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,380 out into the yard where we would flow into the lake. 63 00:08:57,300 --> 00:09:02,420 This didn't seem like a good situation, so we added a bypass system, which would allow 64 00:09:02,420 --> 00:09:05,380 the back floor to be channeled outside before entering our home. 65 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:12,740 In 2006, when the new housing developments were approved to be added to the lift stations 66 00:09:12,740 --> 00:09:14,500 11, 12 and 13 flow. 67 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,520 An engineering report after much discussion 68 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,300 did recommend that the flow from LISTATION 13 69 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,080 should bypass LISTATION 12. 70 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:28,920 This bypass recommendation did not happen until after 71 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,680 there was a storm on Memorial Day weekend in 2008. 72 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,280 The bypass system in our home kept most of the backflow 73 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,480 from entering with the majority flowing through the egg 74 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,080 to the lake. 75 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,140 The second home in the area you have flooding in the lower level. 76 00:09:46,580 --> 00:09:52,840 The bypass live station 13 to live station 11 has since been installed. 77 00:09:53,900 --> 00:09:59,460 Although the possibility of back court has been greatly reduced over the years, it still 78 00:09:59,460 --> 00:10:00,160 exists. 79 00:10:01,300 --> 00:10:08,100 I called into the city, and when I did have a meeting about what was being done about this 80 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:14,160 station and was told that until it was proved, they don't have meetings like that. 81 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,820 So I sent a note back with a couple of concerns on there. 82 00:10:19,020 --> 00:10:28,680 One being the flooding of the houses and the other is when gas was put into our area. 83 00:10:29,380 --> 00:10:33,780 The gas lanes ran down the middle of this access to the houses. 84 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,040 Our electric runs down the middle of it. 85 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,500 And the two wells are done by the house. 86 00:10:40,420 --> 00:10:43,880 So service needs to be done to them. 87 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,820 There has to be a waste for vehicles to get down 88 00:10:46,820 --> 00:10:51,760 at access, and so I'm asking, is this lift station 89 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,020 being put in so that that can happen? 90 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,480 As it is now, we can get vehicles down there. 91 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,820 But I have no idea what the new plans are, 92 00:11:00,980 --> 00:11:04,880 because apparently the city doesn't share them 93 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,060 until after their plant. 94 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:14,040 So I am requesting that before anything is 95 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:19,100 concretely done, that we can at least talk about this. 96 00:11:19,580 --> 00:11:20,400 Thank you. 97 00:11:20,540 --> 00:11:22,020 All right, thank you. 98 00:11:23,220 --> 00:11:24,700 We've got a couple more people to speak 99 00:11:24,700 --> 00:11:26,340 and look at the live station 12. 100 00:11:27,260 --> 00:11:27,920 So Mike. 101 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,440 Oh, my name is Mike Donald, 9495, 102 00:11:35,500 --> 00:11:36,520 North Shore Trail of North. 103 00:11:37,260 --> 00:11:46,380 Also, here to talk about lift station 12, this project of the future project here for updating it and moving the lines, I guess. 104 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:52,860 I second a lot what he said, and then also, concerns of mine would be the future for future home improvements. 105 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:59,540 Force main runs, you know, Katie quarter through my property, and then the gravity feed lines. 106 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:05,720 I'm kind of just here to get information and the same thing to notify it or what's actually going on. 107 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,520 what they're going to do with the future project. 108 00:12:08,340 --> 00:12:08,820 So, all right. 109 00:12:08,980 --> 00:12:09,280 Thank you. 110 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:11,620 Thank you. 111 00:12:11,620 --> 00:12:12,660 Do you want to do it? 112 00:12:12,660 --> 00:12:12,860 Here. 113 00:12:15,550 --> 00:12:15,810 Let me. 114 00:12:16,810 --> 00:12:20,510 I'm Roger Wine Garth, 95.011, North Shore Trail. 115 00:12:21,530 --> 00:12:22,550 I'm actually Mike's neighbor. 116 00:12:23,410 --> 00:12:25,910 And I have had conversations, email conversations, 117 00:12:26,170 --> 00:12:27,810 and that was done of a while back. 118 00:12:28,430 --> 00:12:31,070 My concerns are obviously to do some home improvements 119 00:12:31,070 --> 00:12:32,350 to that home. 120 00:12:32,650 --> 00:12:34,490 I'd like to obviously put a garage. 121 00:12:34,690 --> 00:12:36,170 And if you wherever at my home, you'll 122 00:12:36,170 --> 00:12:38,230 see you have to come straight up onto the street. 123 00:12:38,230 --> 00:12:41,210 And there's a blind, it's absolutely a blind access. 124 00:12:41,770 --> 00:12:43,170 And unless I can get the home improvements, 125 00:12:43,370 --> 00:12:47,370 I am definitely afraid of getting into a serious accident 126 00:12:47,370 --> 00:12:48,630 coming out of there. 127 00:12:49,130 --> 00:12:52,130 And the biggest issue I have, of course, is where the means are, 128 00:12:53,470 --> 00:12:56,290 where they go across my yard. 129 00:12:57,830 --> 00:13:01,270 And it sounds to me like if I'm going to have to build a garage 130 00:13:01,270 --> 00:13:07,230 or move it back or to make, obviously, all the regulations were, 131 00:13:07,890 --> 00:13:12,630 the city would like wants to put a lean on my house because if something happens to the 132 00:13:12,630 --> 00:13:16,850 main that's underneath there I'm liable for it and quite frankly I'm going to agree 133 00:13:16,850 --> 00:13:22,970 with Mark and with Mike that I just like to know what the plans are. I really I have no access 134 00:13:22,970 --> 00:13:29,110 to any information. I will get down of him credit he has been responsive but again I still don't 135 00:13:29,110 --> 00:13:30,130 any specifics. 136 00:13:32,450 --> 00:13:33,490 Thank you. 137 00:13:34,990 --> 00:13:38,750 I think before we go on, Brian, do you want to address? 138 00:13:39,630 --> 00:13:40,530 What about what's going on? 139 00:13:41,710 --> 00:13:47,010 We can have a meeting with those concerned community members in that area as well. 140 00:13:49,110 --> 00:13:52,410 So like the original project, obviously we had favorable bits. 141 00:13:52,730 --> 00:13:57,030 So that I left the city in a situation where we could either add the project or just 142 00:13:57,030 --> 00:14:02,930 roll it into a future project, what the direction that we received after we got about halfway 143 00:14:02,930 --> 00:14:07,010 through with the base bid, the decision to move forward and obtain additional pricing from 144 00:14:07,010 --> 00:14:11,290 the contractor to see if it would still fit within the line of the project budget that we 145 00:14:11,290 --> 00:14:18,290 bonded for and to those stations do, so that's our solicitation 12T you've heard about 146 00:14:18,290 --> 00:14:24,790 and 4C, and that was the prepared in the change order, so getting everything to this point 147 00:14:24,790 --> 00:14:32,650 pricing, and then if you guys did approve the change order, then we would go out and, you 148 00:14:33,210 --> 00:14:37,970 know, thoroughly review the projects with the prop, prop owners just like we did on all 149 00:14:37,970 --> 00:14:42,630 the other live station sites. If we're not approving, you know, the project or the change 150 00:14:42,630 --> 00:14:47,670 order, you know, really kind of rampant up anticipation of an improvement that didn't happen. 151 00:14:50,210 --> 00:14:55,730 So specifically, which listation 12 to you, I was in a very tight area, serves, I don't know, 152 00:14:55,870 --> 00:14:59,970 exact number of homes, it's on my head, but less. 153 00:15:00,110 --> 00:15:14,870 Less than 20. So in that area, there's an 8-inch gravity, pi, piano, which drains into the lift station area. So just like your traditional main line, you have a gravity line that drains, and then when you run out of gravity, you can go to pump it out of there. 154 00:15:15,710 --> 00:15:24,870 Currently, the force main runs parallel with the trunk line or the main line, and I believe that's the line that's been discussed this evening of concern. 155 00:15:24,870 --> 00:15:32,250 part of the lift station 12 team improvements do provide for relocating that's out to an 156 00:15:32,250 --> 00:15:37,990 or short trail right away. So basically we would, you know, cap and abandon and then place 157 00:15:37,990 --> 00:15:43,010 the force main where it is and if construction and time happens and servers that pipe it's 158 00:15:43,010 --> 00:15:48,950 no big deal because it's not in use anymore. But we would then reline and bring the force 159 00:15:48,950 --> 00:15:53,270 main out to North Short Trail and then run it parallel with North Short Trail and that other 160 00:15:53,270 --> 00:15:59,710 this station project that was done several years ago maybe 10 plus. So then we have 161 00:15:59,710 --> 00:16:03,850 two force maids basically coming into one conjunction on manhole further down the road. 162 00:16:04,850 --> 00:16:10,210 But it would require relocating and because of the type quarters, landscaping, tree coverage 163 00:16:10,210 --> 00:16:16,290 in that area, we're not going in there and I guess fully excavating the existing stuff out, 164 00:16:17,230 --> 00:16:22,650 retrofitting per work with a design I would work for public works where basically coming 165 00:16:22,650 --> 00:16:25,030 and then with the pre-cast fiberglass inserts 166 00:16:25,030 --> 00:16:26,570 within the existing structure, 167 00:16:27,230 --> 00:16:30,290 but then replacing all the guts within the structure, 168 00:16:30,430 --> 00:16:31,450 just like we have with the others 169 00:16:31,450 --> 00:16:32,490 and a new control panel. 170 00:16:33,290 --> 00:16:36,410 So that's the scope of the work, you know. 171 00:16:37,090 --> 00:16:39,170 We know how old Ed Lift Station is right now. 172 00:16:40,530 --> 00:16:41,770 Either in the 50s or 60s, 173 00:16:41,810 --> 00:16:43,110 they don't have that chart with me. 174 00:16:43,410 --> 00:16:45,330 Also, it hasn't been in the original. 175 00:16:45,830 --> 00:16:49,970 It is, wow, definitely needs to have some work done to it. 176 00:16:49,970 --> 00:16:54,790 You said you guys would be relaying the grabbing line, 177 00:16:54,870 --> 00:16:57,950 and then was that we would be relocating the force 178 00:16:57,950 --> 00:17:00,210 made with the new force made drive-son drill. 179 00:17:02,230 --> 00:17:05,050 Was I and I at Concernium, I know he had mentioned the storms, 180 00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:06,990 what was bringing on some of the back of the structure. 181 00:17:07,230 --> 00:17:09,430 We haven't boarded, isn't a lighting contractor? 182 00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:11,630 If that's something that we wanted to tackle, 183 00:17:11,810 --> 00:17:14,670 we would do that with another project. 184 00:17:16,490 --> 00:17:18,170 Obviously, we have a lot of I and I in town, 185 00:17:19,790 --> 00:17:24,330 But that would be something we can do anytime, the live and gravity through even a 186 00:17:24,330 --> 00:17:29,630 quote, Project Public Works does, you know, go through televised in and identify the 187 00:17:29,630 --> 00:17:34,970 high priority areas for those learning projects as the CIP for the, speaking of 188 00:17:34,970 --> 00:17:37,910 Thoma Header and now on the CIP for the Santers who are, I think, our next 189 00:17:37,910 --> 00:17:46,070 identified, cured in place, pipe project is 2020 and I think it had $5,000,000 190 00:17:46,070 --> 00:17:47,810 to your mark if that stayed funded. 191 00:17:50,510 --> 00:17:51,230 All right, thank you, Ryan. 192 00:17:52,090 --> 00:17:54,710 So we will be discussing this at the agenda tonight. 193 00:17:55,930 --> 00:17:59,110 But I think, you know, it's Ryan indicated in a process. 194 00:18:00,370 --> 00:18:02,850 We're going to have to approve it before then, you know, 195 00:18:02,850 --> 00:18:04,710 he's going to meet with home owners. 196 00:18:06,330 --> 00:18:09,130 I would definitely say if we approve it tonight 197 00:18:10,430 --> 00:18:13,770 and there's some type of complications or hesitations, 198 00:18:13,770 --> 00:18:20,030 We'd like to hear about them because we can obviously try to make accommodations as well. 199 00:18:20,970 --> 00:18:23,790 Then we'll back to the open form with a 200 00:18:25,330 --> 00:18:25,810 Sholzy 201 00:18:38,450 --> 00:18:44,030 Hi Jim Sholts for us like I'm here to ask you for a street light tonight 202 00:18:44,030 --> 00:18:50,150 I'm a little bit out of sequence. Normally I go to the airport commission first and then I come to you folks 203 00:18:50,150 --> 00:19:00,390 Um, due to the sequence of things, um, I've come here tonight first, uh, let me see if I can bring this up. 204 00:19:12,070 --> 00:19:12,850 That's my desktop. 205 00:19:14,910 --> 00:19:26,070 Um, in the meantime, uh, we just recently, within the last, uh, week or two, have had a second break in it, 206 00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:32,450 at the airport. And can all of you see the photograph? 207 00:19:34,630 --> 00:19:37,610 Okay. Hey, what you're seeing there is 208 00:19:37,610 --> 00:19:44,530 looking northward Highway 97 runs from left to right and then you've got a thin way off to 209 00:19:44,530 --> 00:19:49,610 the left side of the screen and then as you come south or toward the bottom of the picture off 210 00:19:49,610 --> 00:19:56,810 of Highway 97, that's where hanger E or hanger echo, it's called, down that long driveway. 211 00:19:57,830 --> 00:20:01,050 Some of those buildings have been removed since then, I have three things marked on 212 00:20:01,050 --> 00:20:06,030 there at gate, the bungalow, which is still in existence, and then the hanger itself. 213 00:20:07,930 --> 00:20:14,970 The break-in, we had one occur on November 7th, and then since that time, I understand 214 00:20:14,970 --> 00:20:20,110 police have done some extra patrolling for us out there. And then we had a second break 215 00:20:20,110 --> 00:20:27,730 in that occurred on about May 1st. And we've had a heater and a generator stall in probably 216 00:20:27,730 --> 00:20:34,310 600, 800 bucks were the stuff out of there. The optimum answer for us would be to electrify 217 00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:39,010 the building and we could put in a cool camera, maybe put in some extra security lighting, 218 00:20:39,010 --> 00:20:43,390 whatever, electrifying the building is about a $10,000 process, 219 00:20:45,570 --> 00:20:47,830 but short term answer could 220 00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:53,890 be as cheap as a $1,250 answer, that's what it would cost to put a street light in at the 221 00:20:53,890 --> 00:21:01,050 northwest corner of Hangar Echo. Currently there is a street light over the gate, which hasn't 222 00:21:01,050 --> 00:21:07,350 been working for a few months, but there is one up there. The closest power and transformer is 223 00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:09,870 located at the end of the bungalow there. 224 00:21:10,150 --> 00:21:12,030 And so if we were to electrify that hanger, 225 00:21:12,250 --> 00:21:14,550 it would have to come from the bungalow down to the hanger. 226 00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:18,650 But a light could be ran, essentially 227 00:21:18,650 --> 00:21:22,310 I would recommend taking one off the gate and put it up by the hanger. 228 00:21:22,810 --> 00:21:25,490 And hopefully that would reduce things. 229 00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:29,490 This has an impact of 0.34 a year residence 230 00:21:29,490 --> 00:21:32,610 or 5.1 guy pays double. 231 00:21:33,670 --> 00:21:40,650 And if you had someone in your town come to you and ask you to put up a light or move a light 232 00:21:40,650 --> 00:21:45,950 500 feet because they've had two break-ins, I would hope you would consider favorably of maybe 233 00:21:45,950 --> 00:21:50,790 spending the 1200 bucks in moving the light and that's essentially what I'm asking for tonight. 234 00:21:52,230 --> 00:22:00,530 I did ask with Minnesota DOT, their aeronautics department, they don't have emergency funding available for this sort of thing. 235 00:22:00,530 --> 00:22:08,690 They can put it in and perhaps do some funding looking at it in about a year from now when the CIP process goes through. 236 00:22:09,250 --> 00:22:18,830 But if it costs 1,200 to put it in, and we've already had 600 bucks worth of stuff stolen, it doesn't really merit waiting another year for us. 237 00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:30,370 I hope. Again, the police did do some additional patrolling since the first break in, but it obviously wasn't enough to stop the second one. 238 00:22:30,370 --> 00:22:34,250 And that's pretty much what I came for tonight. 239 00:22:34,790 --> 00:22:42,310 Full disclosure, I have asked the airport commission previously about getting some gravel 240 00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:43,650 put around that same hanger. 241 00:22:44,550 --> 00:22:46,970 So I'm asking the city for some money. 242 00:22:47,050 --> 00:22:52,430 This is a second time I've came to ask, but I don't know that that motion has come to you yet. 243 00:22:52,890 --> 00:22:57,010 Anyway, I wanted to let you know, and I'm asking you to spend some money out there on hanger 244 00:22:57,010 --> 00:22:57,550 echo. 245 00:22:58,210 --> 00:22:58,710 Any questions? 246 00:23:00,130 --> 00:23:00,570 Thanks. 247 00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:03,110 Thank you. 248 00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:13,710 Thank you, Ron Schaefer. 249 00:23:14,890 --> 00:23:17,330 I'm listening to all these people that want stuff. 250 00:23:18,730 --> 00:23:21,470 Well, we got streetlights all over the city. 251 00:23:21,610 --> 00:23:23,470 I can't see any from my house. 252 00:23:23,910 --> 00:23:25,030 We didn't use the pay for them. 253 00:23:25,210 --> 00:23:26,170 Now we are. 254 00:23:26,170 --> 00:23:26,970 I don't know why. 255 00:23:27,870 --> 00:23:30,890 If you can give me an explanation of how it benefits me. 256 00:23:32,250 --> 00:23:35,750 I can think about things that I complained about years ago. 257 00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:38,530 And when there was a lady councilman, and they said, 258 00:23:38,990 --> 00:23:41,430 gee, we never had police out by our house. 259 00:23:41,910 --> 00:23:43,510 I said, but when they come in the city, 260 00:23:44,010 --> 00:23:45,850 didn't running around all of them, or she said, well, 261 00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:49,110 that's where the taverns are. 262 00:23:49,870 --> 00:23:52,470 Now, I don't know, should we open up a tavern or not? 263 00:23:52,650 --> 00:23:53,150 Well, I live. 264 00:23:53,790 --> 00:23:57,010 I don't think there'd be enough people out there to support it. 265 00:23:57,410 --> 00:24:00,510 And I'm thinking about all the other things that the 266 00:24:00,510 --> 00:24:01,910 city people got. 267 00:24:01,910 --> 00:24:05,710 They got parks, we don't have any out where I live. 268 00:24:06,590 --> 00:24:09,230 We got walking trails, we don't have any. 269 00:24:09,670 --> 00:24:12,070 We have walking bridges, we don't have any of them either. 270 00:24:13,450 --> 00:24:16,050 And I'm wondering, why are we supporting them? 271 00:24:16,330 --> 00:24:17,370 Can you tell me of that? 272 00:24:17,650 --> 00:24:17,670 Anybody? 273 00:24:18,570 --> 00:24:19,370 I don't think you can. 274 00:24:19,910 --> 00:24:23,790 Because the city people are benefiting from this. 275 00:24:24,090 --> 00:24:26,290 We have buses running to the city. 276 00:24:26,650 --> 00:24:27,530 I've never written one. 277 00:24:27,650 --> 00:24:30,630 I've been out here 40 years and probably never will. 278 00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:35,090 right one. I drove 20 years into my job from here to the same 279 00:24:35,090 --> 00:24:40,190 Paul way I worked. And I think we're starting to benefit people too much. 280 00:24:40,650 --> 00:24:44,330 Let's let people take care of themselves and not give them anything. 281 00:24:44,530 --> 00:24:50,330 The airport, I got to think about that, sell it. Let the people that buy it, do 282 00:24:50,330 --> 00:24:54,470 whatever they want with it. They can put lights up all over the thing. And they 283 00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:58,990 can put pavement all over they want. It won't affect me one way or the other. 284 00:24:58,990 --> 00:25:02,050 we're going to have an airplane and I'm never going to fly there. 285 00:25:02,450 --> 00:25:05,030 But let's start benefiting the people in the township. 286 00:25:05,450 --> 00:25:07,330 Everything seems to be going into the city. 287 00:25:07,730 --> 00:25:09,250 Nothing goes into the township. 288 00:25:09,850 --> 00:25:10,870 Thank you. 289 00:25:11,690 --> 00:25:11,950 All right. 290 00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:12,870 Thank you. 291 00:25:14,370 --> 00:25:15,730 That ends the open form. 292 00:25:23,220 --> 00:25:24,740 I'm going to consent agenda. 293 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,500 I'll look for an approval that it changes there, too. 294 00:25:30,410 --> 00:25:30,690 That's right. 295 00:25:30,690 --> 00:25:34,110 Make a motion that we've approved the consent agenda is written. 296 00:25:34,110 --> 00:25:42,620 I had a few items to come off, if you're open to a, from the amendment items A, B, and K. 297 00:25:43,140 --> 00:25:45,540 A, A, B, and what was the other one? 298 00:25:45,540 --> 00:25:48,160 K. A, B, and K. 299 00:25:53,310 --> 00:25:54,630 Is that okay with you then, Sam? 300 00:25:54,910 --> 00:25:56,370 Oh, except that amendment. 301 00:25:57,690 --> 00:26:00,490 All right, and we have a second time it. Any other changes? 302 00:26:03,290 --> 00:26:04,410 Hold on one second. 303 00:26:05,710 --> 00:26:10,630 It was there when I'm a ping-a-contractor, would it? 304 00:26:10,670 --> 00:26:13,250 That was K. That's the regular agenda, turn it over. 305 00:26:13,530 --> 00:26:15,430 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 306 00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:17,070 It looks like the consent right there. 307 00:26:17,390 --> 00:26:19,290 That one's off. That one's off. 308 00:26:19,290 --> 00:26:20,230 That's off. Okay. 309 00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:26,820 All right. I'll look for an approval of consent agenda, 310 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,360 removing items A, B, and K for further discussion. 311 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,560 All those in favor? 312 00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:33,600 Aye. 313 00:26:34,180 --> 00:26:34,700 Opposed? 314 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,940 Okay. Those are cleared. I don't take these one at a time. Item six A. 315 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:46,540 Six A, I just had a quick question on, there's two items for large items for the metropolitan. 316 00:26:46,620 --> 00:26:51,900 Met Council Environmental Services. One is for 118,000 and the other is 322,000. 317 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,220 I just wanted clarification on what those were before we approved. 318 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,860 Yeah, the Twitter in 2021 is for sewer access charge, 319 00:27:00,860 --> 00:27:07,320 And that's what we, other just path through funds, so we got charge up the net council, so that's what. 320 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:15,160 The $3 and $20,000 one is and the $18,000 one is the actual, it's just a bill that the net council charges us to. 321 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,760 Process the sewer of the waste, I could send down steam on there, etc. And so that's just our monthly sewer bill. 322 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,060 It monthly or is it? 323 00:27:23,140 --> 00:27:24,000 Quarterly. Quarterly. 324 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,160 The quarterly charge, okay. 325 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,040 Sorry about that, Mike. 326 00:27:26,140 --> 00:27:26,500 Thank you. 327 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,880 I make a motion that we approve city bells as indicated. 328 00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:33,780 I'll second a motion. 329 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:34,560 All right. 330 00:27:34,780 --> 00:27:37,580 We have a motion in a second and if you're the discussion, 331 00:27:38,260 --> 00:27:39,580 you're now in all those of favorite. 332 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,240 Aye. 333 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,640 Opposed motion carries. 334 00:27:44,460 --> 00:27:44,760 All right. 335 00:27:45,340 --> 00:27:46,320 Item six B. 336 00:27:47,420 --> 00:27:48,680 Item six B. 337 00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:53,120 Which is the city council meeting minutes. 338 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,840 Minutes from April 9. 339 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,540 Just a quick update. 340 00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:07,120 And the motion to airport lease rates was a little clunky as written, and I thought there 341 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:16,060 was worse clarification, let me get to this page, I believe it's on page 27. 342 00:28:18,540 --> 00:28:23,380 The motion as written in the minutes was give the recommendation back to city to determine 343 00:28:23,380 --> 00:28:28,060 with CPI number to be agreed upon by airport commission-general and staff, and I wanted 344 00:28:28,060 --> 00:28:34,120 just to be clear that we were referring back to city and staff, as well as the airport commission, 345 00:28:34,740 --> 00:28:36,180 the CPI rates. 346 00:28:39,450 --> 00:28:40,530 D&D was written. 347 00:28:41,230 --> 00:28:46,650 This direction we took from CSF was basically take back the CPI determination back to the 348 00:28:46,650 --> 00:28:49,250 airport commission and work with them to have them. 349 00:28:50,150 --> 00:28:53,170 You know, I basically revamped the original memo. 350 00:28:53,270 --> 00:28:57,870 We clarified CPI and CPI you and then about the airport commission for consideration. 351 00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:14,570 I think we've done the right thing, I think we just, I just wanted the motion to be clear that we were referring back to staff for additional work. 352 00:29:17,570 --> 00:29:20,750 And I would make the motion to approve the minutes as amended. 353 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,740 Remember, it was going to go back to the airport commission. 354 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,620 That was it. 355 00:29:29,820 --> 00:29:33,320 And I went back to staff and the airport commission, correct? 356 00:29:33,540 --> 00:29:33,760 Correct. 357 00:29:34,780 --> 00:29:34,880 Yeah. 358 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,800 I was directed to go back to fine CPI, along with the airport commission. 359 00:29:39,140 --> 00:29:39,360 Yeah. 360 00:29:39,940 --> 00:29:44,020 We were going to find which CPI to use and that was going to come from our financial 361 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,040 Correct. 362 00:29:48,690 --> 00:29:52,010 So I wouldn't like a motion that we approved the amended minutes. 363 00:29:52,970 --> 00:29:53,830 With that amendment made. 364 00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:59,970 The amendment of, I don't know what amendment because that was what the motion was. 365 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:19,620 We are going to be discussing that tonight, anyway, and here for we is 7, over to 7, which is 7, which is 7, so on page 27 of our packet, which are the minutes for April 9, item e, 366 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:28,680 the word I'm troubled by is recommendation back to the city, we didn't send a recommendation back to the city, we referred action back to the city. 367 00:30:31,370 --> 00:30:38,270 I just wanted our action to be clear, which was we referred back to the city, 368 00:30:38,270 --> 00:30:41,570 back to city staff, and the airport commission. 369 00:30:45,540 --> 00:30:47,320 So, how do you want it to lead specifically? 370 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,120 Want to make a motion that includes how you want it? 371 00:30:51,140 --> 00:30:57,480 Refer the airport lease rates, back to city staff, and the airport commission to determine which CPI to use. 372 00:30:57,620 --> 00:30:59,280 You have a place to recommend with, refer? 373 00:31:00,420 --> 00:31:02,880 I re-worked a little bit, but that's the primary change. 374 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:03,860 I understand. 375 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,880 All right, so we have a motion. 376 00:31:08,660 --> 00:31:09,520 Do we have a second? 377 00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:12,040 How's that? 378 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,300 Any further discussion on this? 379 00:31:17,060 --> 00:31:17,800 All those in favor? 380 00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:18,880 Aye. 381 00:31:19,780 --> 00:31:20,200 Opposed? 382 00:31:20,900 --> 00:31:21,680 One abstaining. 383 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,040 And one abstain. 384 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:26,940 All right. 385 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:34,660 And then item six K, a runway in parallel taxi wave, pay request, a number eight. 386 00:31:37,060 --> 00:31:39,200 So this is the Dressel pay request. 387 00:31:39,460 --> 00:31:40,940 If I'm reading this right, 388 00:31:40,940 --> 00:31:44,460 We are reducing to a retainage of 15,000. 389 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:45,120 Is that correct? 390 00:31:45,380 --> 00:31:45,840 That's correct. 391 00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:49,200 That's basically representative of what they have left to do, 392 00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:50,840 which is basically I think some paperwork 393 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,160 that they're confirmed that they work. 394 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,420 And we were holding too much retainage at like 65,000. 395 00:31:55,660 --> 00:31:57,100 The paperwork is nowhere near that amount. 396 00:31:57,940 --> 00:32:00,160 So this brings us back in line with the remainder 397 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,960 of the items that are on the list. 398 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,020 That was exactly my question. 399 00:32:04,140 --> 00:32:05,920 I just wanted to confirm, given, 400 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,560 I knew that there was work remaining, 401 00:32:08,060 --> 00:32:10,440 but wanting to make sure that this remaining 15,000 402 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,880 was still the right amount and that they had completed other items. 403 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,160 This doesn't have concern. 404 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,720 This has been an open item for quite some time. 405 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,080 Dan, does that retainer in any way affect the litigation that we are pending? 406 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,520 Has no effect on that? 407 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,780 Has actually recommended that we actually get this taken care of. 408 00:32:28,940 --> 00:32:32,760 Because we can't, at this point, that's a separate issue from this retainer's issue. 409 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,520 So we need to get through a teenage issue, 410 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,080 brought back in line with the work that still left open. 411 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:42,260 So is there an expected completion date for everything? 412 00:32:43,940 --> 00:32:45,060 It's a good question. 413 00:32:45,420 --> 00:32:48,100 I actually asked the contractor when he planned on being able to finish his... 414 00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:49,860 We'll call it punchless work. 415 00:32:50,540 --> 00:32:53,440 He was out of town last week, he's going to try to get to as soon as possible, 416 00:32:54,460 --> 00:32:55,120 but we'll have him... 417 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,460 We have him on a couple of other projects in town, so obviously keep reminding him 418 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,260 and I wouldn't just spit the work, he'd be done no later than June. 419 00:33:02,260 --> 00:33:07,140 because after that's then we kind of get into dry season 2 because there's a little bit of 420 00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:12,040 restoration on the north end, drainage area, poor race creek waters, a district requirement, 421 00:33:13,380 --> 00:33:16,700 so a couple things to take care of, but relatively minor. 422 00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:25,770 So the remaining $15,000, that would be enough to cover those minor items? 423 00:33:27,050 --> 00:33:32,310 I think it's conservative, but I don't know if that would be that way than low. 424 00:33:35,030 --> 00:33:42,730 We still have a bond in place with the project too, so, but we're talking a couple of little things here. 425 00:33:43,250 --> 00:33:49,190 And is that bond staying in place for a year after the project's complete or how does it? 426 00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:51,330 We don't have to release a bond, correct? 427 00:33:52,650 --> 00:33:53,470 Or how to? 428 00:33:54,750 --> 00:33:58,810 I guess I haven't seen a bond release request come through before the council before so. 429 00:33:59,010 --> 00:34:01,370 No, because this was done by a different firm, the project. 430 00:34:01,370 --> 00:34:07,430 I don't know exactly what's in the contracts, but typically, you know, I have a warranty a year after the project, right? 431 00:34:07,970 --> 00:34:14,570 If they don't honor it, then we've gone back before in the past and used the binding company to make the corrections. 432 00:34:17,660 --> 00:34:18,280 Thank you, Ryan. 433 00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:20,880 Any other discussion on this? 434 00:34:21,540 --> 00:34:21,760 Item? 435 00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:23,940 It's not a little bit of a motion. 436 00:34:24,460 --> 00:34:27,100 Oh, make a motion that we approve the payment to Druffle. 437 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,100 Second. 438 00:34:28,740 --> 00:34:29,280 All right. 439 00:34:29,380 --> 00:34:30,420 Item 6K. 440 00:34:30,420 --> 00:34:33,460 We had a motion a second, any further discussion. 441 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:35,900 You ready, none, all those in favor? 442 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:36,840 Hi. 443 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:37,800 Opposed? 444 00:34:42,170 --> 00:34:43,910 So that clears a consent agenda. 445 00:34:48,850 --> 00:34:51,110 Yeah, and two regular items. 446 00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:58,510 Well, I'm meeting mentally 447 00:35:00,750 --> 00:35:02,510 just to prove those in the consent agenda. 448 00:35:04,290 --> 00:35:08,710 The reason why these are there is that there is a reason, 449 00:35:08,910 --> 00:35:10,210 because I'm not going to say it would happen to abstain, 450 00:35:10,430 --> 00:35:11,230 or we're not present at the meeting. 451 00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:12,710 So instead of trying to pull those off, 452 00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:14,090 individual kind of consent agenda. 453 00:35:14,650 --> 00:35:20,430 We listed them as the first four items on the regular agenda, so that just kind of cleaned 454 00:35:20,430 --> 00:35:22,930 up the consent agenda, approval a little bit. 455 00:35:24,570 --> 00:35:24,930 All right. 456 00:35:25,090 --> 00:35:29,810 And make a vision that we approve the State Council meetings that took me to minutes that took 457 00:35:29,810 --> 00:35:31,630 place on March 26, 2018. 458 00:35:32,530 --> 00:35:32,850 Second. 459 00:35:34,410 --> 00:35:35,270 Any discussion? 460 00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:36,670 All those in favor? 461 00:35:37,230 --> 00:35:37,410 Aye. 462 00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:38,250 Aye. 463 00:35:39,850 --> 00:35:40,070 Okay. 464 00:35:40,070 --> 00:35:42,990 No, one abstain, and four yeses. 465 00:35:42,990 --> 00:35:43,670 It doesn't make it. 466 00:35:44,090 --> 00:35:45,590 All right. 467 00:35:45,590 --> 00:35:46,730 Let's try this again. 468 00:35:47,210 --> 00:35:48,030 Item 7B. 469 00:35:48,090 --> 00:35:48,870 Can we make a motion now? 470 00:35:49,010 --> 00:35:54,850 We approve the City Council meeting, minutes set of the meeting that took place April 2, 2018. 471 00:35:57,390 --> 00:35:59,870 I have a, I have a change to those meeting minutes. 472 00:36:00,490 --> 00:36:06,450 I think there's in our discussion section, which is in section 6, discussion starts 473 00:36:06,450 --> 00:36:11,170 with actually what was the second action of the night, which was my most nomination for 474 00:36:11,170 --> 00:36:12,050 Dawn Steeleer. 475 00:36:12,450 --> 00:36:18,190 The discussion section is missing, Council Member Hussnick's initial nomination for 476 00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:18,970 Connie Kobovi. 477 00:36:19,850 --> 00:36:23,890 That is properly reflected down below in the voting section, but I think we should include 478 00:36:23,890 --> 00:36:26,690 that in the discussion just so there's clarity and consistency. 479 00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:27,790 I'll 480 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,720 accept your amendment. 481 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,360 All right. 482 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,760 So, we'll go back to the amendment. 483 00:36:40,460 --> 00:36:42,060 It's also the amended motion. 484 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,460 Any further discussion? 485 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:46,880 Any none? 486 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:47,780 All those in favour? 487 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:48,540 Aye. 488 00:36:49,260 --> 00:36:49,480 Aye. 489 00:36:50,580 --> 00:36:51,300 One abstain. 490 00:36:53,540 --> 00:36:54,200 We're going through this. 491 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,240 So, a seven C local board of appeals on April 9. 492 00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:01,780 So, I also have a change to these minutes, sorry guys. 493 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:12,280 Board of Appeals, Consumant Baccus is listed as not listed on the roster for attendance, 494 00:37:12,460 --> 00:37:17,240 which I believe is correct, but he is listed in the absence as being absent when we adjourned, 495 00:37:18,020 --> 00:37:19,640 and we should be consistent on those. 496 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:27,200 So, either he was, he didn't actually take office till later that evening for 497 00:37:29,250 --> 00:37:29,990 one of those sections. 498 00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:37,670 change. Just remove the absent. Come after the absent section. Correct. And with that, I'll make 499 00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:45,270 a motion. We approve the amended minutes. All right. And Sam, you agreed to that. Yeah, I'll just 500 00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:52,430 make it. Oh, you're making the motion. I think he's seconded. All right. Looking for a second? 501 00:37:57,850 --> 00:37:57,870 I will 502 00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:02,280 So three other curries. 503 00:38:04,260 --> 00:38:08,360 And we're upshot meeting minutes, April 16th, 70. 504 00:38:09,660 --> 00:38:10,140 And they're commercial. 505 00:38:10,460 --> 00:38:12,980 We're upshot meeting minutes, April 16th. 506 00:38:17,020 --> 00:38:17,540 The motion. 507 00:38:17,820 --> 00:38:18,060 Second. 508 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,460 We have a second. 509 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,640 Any further discussion? 510 00:38:22,780 --> 00:38:22,900 All right. 511 00:38:23,140 --> 00:38:23,340 Here we go. 512 00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:24,240 And all those in favor. 513 00:38:25,020 --> 00:38:25,260 All right. 514 00:38:26,060 --> 00:38:26,780 Up the post. 515 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:28,320 And upstand. 516 00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:29,520 Ready to abstain. 517 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:29,940 And pull down. 518 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:31,140 No. 519 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,080 I'm not. 520 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:32,860 I said I. 521 00:38:32,860 --> 00:38:37,300 Okay. I only abstain from the other one because there wasn't a person for those. 522 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,740 70, Dan, do you want to take us through the airport lease adjustment? 523 00:38:46,540 --> 00:38:51,680 I am here. I remember the council during the May 2nd airport commission meeting. 524 00:38:52,180 --> 00:38:59,040 I brought back the lease rate adjustments to define the CPI to be used to make those adjustments. 525 00:38:59,740 --> 00:39:06,280 And then based on that CPI, we then adjusted lease rates back from 2007 to 2007. 526 00:39:08,540 --> 00:39:15,140 The CPI that was actually presented during the airport commission meeting was the Minneapolis St. Paul CPIU. 527 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,680 And if you look back in my memo that was originally sent out to the airport commission meeting, 528 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:27,240 that CPI covers a production of the 89% of the population living within the Minneapolis St. Paul area. 529 00:39:27,380 --> 00:39:29,220 It covers Washington County as well. 530 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,360 So it's the consumer price index that you would use for determining price increases in this area. 531 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:43,740 Based on the CPIU, which the airport commission did recommend approval of as the CPI2 would use as least rate adjustments. 532 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:50,700 What we saw from 2008 to 2017 was a 14.491% increase in CPI. 533 00:39:52,060 --> 00:40:02,360 And based on that percent increase, you see lease rates adjusting on the non-commercial side to 10.3 cents per square foot. 534 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:08,700 and commercial loose rates within adjust to 15.5 cents per square foot. 535 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:17,100 At the airport commission meeting, they did recommend that both the CPIU be approved as they recommended the CPI. 536 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,660 And then they directed staff to go back with the accounting staff to make sure that we had the, 537 00:40:21,660 --> 00:40:28,060 these increased correct and the correct, these, the new correct per square foot rates. 538 00:40:28,060 --> 00:40:34,820 I'm going to go back and I'm going to find a structure to verify all my facts and figures and did get the an email blessing saying that the numbers are correct 539 00:40:34,820 --> 00:40:41,960 So they said the 10.3 in the 15.5 sense is accurate on a per square foot basis 540 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,700 So what you have before you tonight is a resolution 541 00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:47,110 05 1418-02 542 00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:56,460 which does designate the Minneapolis sample CPIU as the airport CPI and then adjust the least rates based on that CPI 543 00:40:56,460 --> 00:41:02,260 And the reasons why you have a resolution for this one is that technically change the 544 00:41:02,260 --> 00:41:07,280 least rates requires an ordinance because an amendment to the ordinance because it is tied 545 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,080 in with the fee schedule, which is amended on an ordinance basis. 546 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:18,480 This resolution basically sets a record of the council that does desire to adjust these 547 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,060 least rates. 548 00:41:19,380 --> 00:41:22,840 And it also directs the next thing to bring a fee schedule update that we will update the 549 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:27,940 schedule so we can, you know, put these new lease rates in that fee schedule. 550 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,800 So instead of doing an ordinance amount, just simply for this, 551 00:41:30,980 --> 00:41:33,860 basically codifying or probably not the right technical term. 552 00:41:34,060 --> 00:41:37,740 But we're putting basically a resolution on paper that says this is the clear 553 00:41:37,740 --> 00:41:41,000 marching orders for the direction we want for the upper lease rates. 554 00:41:41,140 --> 00:41:42,580 And then the next one of the fee schedule comes forward. 555 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,940 We will bring those forward as part of a fee schedule update. 556 00:41:45,620 --> 00:41:49,000 So at this point, if the recommended action would be the 557 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:55,600 approved resolution of 0514-802, which would adjust the least rates to as it presented. 558 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,960 We have it answering the questions you may have on the CPI or the proposed least rate adjustments. 559 00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:07,280 Thank you, Dan. Any questions for Dan and I'm staying up? 560 00:42:07,540 --> 00:42:11,920 I've got one. I understand the intent. I think everybody does. 561 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:20,440 The one thing I see not clarified on here is the fact that we adjust these lease rates every 562 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,140 two years. 563 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:30,840 And I think that we need to clarify just because there's been so many issues, the fact that 564 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:38,860 the lease would be an aggregate of those two years, not just one of the years, or doubling 565 00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:44,560 one of the years, because we could have a scenario where one year goes up 10 or 12% and 566 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:50,420 next year it could go down 3% and then we're going to get into, you know, that discussion 567 00:42:50,420 --> 00:42:56,680 well, it's not right, but if we can put in there that it's an aggregate of our average 568 00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:02,680 of those two years, I think it'll just keep an issue from cropping up later. 569 00:43:09,330 --> 00:43:12,830 And then yeah, that would be consistent what we did in the last three races, Johnson, we basically 570 00:43:12,830 --> 00:43:17,430 just ran the starting CPI and the finishing CPI and figured out the percentage increase. 571 00:43:18,290 --> 00:43:21,810 So in your example, if you did see a big increase in one, you're in a reduction in the 572 00:43:21,810 --> 00:43:21,970 race. 573 00:43:22,090 --> 00:43:26,890 Because even through the 2018-2017 there was a couple of years where CPI actually did decrease 574 00:43:26,890 --> 00:43:28,010 in there as well. 575 00:43:28,350 --> 00:43:29,010 That was all fact. 576 00:43:29,050 --> 00:43:31,970 When we actually set the whole, we start the start in the ending number. 577 00:43:32,190 --> 00:43:35,610 So that would be doing that would be consistent with how this was determined. 578 00:43:35,890 --> 00:43:40,190 So the next time you take the CPI for 18 CPI for 19 in terms of what the next least 579 00:43:40,190 --> 00:43:44,690 which would be, again, consistent with how this lesson was determined. 580 00:43:48,430 --> 00:43:51,890 I think it's a good clarification as well. 581 00:43:52,690 --> 00:43:57,110 I think we can do to make this more clear and recognize that it's an annual number 582 00:43:57,110 --> 00:44:00,210 and we are taking an aggregate of a two year period, I think it's good. 583 00:44:03,390 --> 00:44:09,270 Any other comment I would make is that going forward, we do it every two. 584 00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:18,770 I mean, that one went from 2008 to 2016, or anything was a just mandatory every two years. 585 00:44:19,310 --> 00:44:21,350 Just looking back at the two years. 586 00:44:21,550 --> 00:44:21,610 Yeah. 587 00:44:22,210 --> 00:44:23,490 To the last two. 588 00:44:23,610 --> 00:44:24,770 I agree with that as well. 589 00:44:24,930 --> 00:44:29,410 I mean, we could look back at the last 20 and try and average it every time. 590 00:44:29,570 --> 00:44:34,050 But let's just, the two years from the, or from whatever that last, 591 00:44:34,050 --> 00:44:36,450 The rate increase was correct. 592 00:44:37,110 --> 00:44:39,070 Which object would you like to do it? 593 00:44:39,090 --> 00:44:40,270 Anatory that every year. 594 00:44:40,270 --> 00:44:42,310 Yeah, I mean, not skip it two years or not. 595 00:44:44,010 --> 00:44:44,070 Yeah. 596 00:44:45,110 --> 00:44:45,230 Yeah. 597 00:44:45,230 --> 00:44:45,870 I'd like to see you all. 598 00:44:46,010 --> 00:44:46,350 Good afternoon. 599 00:44:46,910 --> 00:44:48,510 Thank you. 600 00:44:48,910 --> 00:44:51,610 I want to thank the question for Dan or maybe it's a request. 601 00:44:52,070 --> 00:44:55,490 The language is in here for the $200 per unit. 602 00:44:55,770 --> 00:44:59,410 As we know, it's been a contentious conversation over the last year. 603 00:44:59,410 --> 00:44:59,970 a 604 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:16,000 If we could have an update at our upcoming meeting, probably a close session to talk about status of arbitration or status of mediation, just so we can also can get an update on that and then consider in the future what we want to do with a $280. 605 00:45:17,740 --> 00:45:23,740 Now you're talking close session for the ongoing lawsuit, just to clarify people in the audience. 606 00:45:23,740 --> 00:45:44,140 I would say a closed session to get an update on where we are with the mediation, because in my mind that is a prerequisite before we consider doing anything different with the $280, which I know there's some in the audience that have that question out there. 607 00:45:44,820 --> 00:46:06,140 Maybe bridge you can speak to this, but rather than having close session, would Dan be able to, or somebody just be able to individually have consultation with the council members as to where that's at, is I'm not really sure if a close session to update at this point has been official in the long run. 608 00:46:06,660 --> 00:46:11,940 I think just the point of a clarification on a closed session for the mediation is probably recommended just to get everybody 609 00:46:12,380 --> 00:46:16,620 because I think we're potentially making some decision points here where the next steps 610 00:46:16,620 --> 00:46:21,320 so it would be advantageous to get the council in the room with the legal concept at that point 611 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:26,240 just to kind of lay out what are the options because there are multifaceted options that can be done at this point 612 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:34,240 to get a resolution to this I probably would be advantageous at the closed session just so you can get some clear direction as to what direction 613 00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:37,240 Council forces to go with the mediation. 614 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,440 The point at the point I want to make about this whole thing that $290 dollars, you know, 615 00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:47,480 that's been posed under the hangar owners, has nothing to do with that airport overrun. 616 00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:48,700 Absolutely nothing. 617 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,820 And the fact that it keeps getting brought up that way is just isn't right. 618 00:46:54,020 --> 00:46:58,700 I mean, there was, we had an opportunity to stop that from happening in the first place, 619 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,220 and it didn't even come to us for a vote, and that's the problem with it. 620 00:47:03,220 --> 00:47:04,900 It has nothing to do with the hand-owners. 621 00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:11,480 And so the idea that we have to wait until that's clarified is not right, just isn't right. 622 00:47:13,180 --> 00:47:16,760 Yeah, I don't think it does, and that's why I wanted to bring that up, but, you know, I mean, 623 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,660 I believe there are two different completely separate issues. 624 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,180 It is. 625 00:47:21,180 --> 00:47:22,080 I just wanted to. 626 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,720 Yeah, and so too, respond to that. 627 00:47:23,820 --> 00:47:24,180 Directly. 628 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,740 I would defer to a litigation council just as far as updates are concerned 629 00:47:27,740 --> 00:47:31,200 and because they're handling that matter to speak on that piece. 630 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,400 And then just to clarify, kind of what this resolution is trying to do, because I know 631 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,360 it's to try to do a lot of things. 632 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,240 I mean, there are really two things that are happening here. 633 00:47:40,260 --> 00:47:45,580 The first is that it's trying to designate the Minneapolis-Saint-Paul C.C.I.U. as that 634 00:47:45,580 --> 00:47:48,220 is official C.P.I.U. as reference in the least rate. 635 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,700 So that's sort of the first thing that the resolution does. 636 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:57,340 And then the second thing it does is to adjust the least rate's effective July 1st, I believe 637 00:47:57,340 --> 00:47:57,760 it is. 638 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,140 that is finding instructors requesting that something being 639 00:48:00,140 --> 00:48:01,460 inviting to make an adjust those. 640 00:48:01,780 --> 00:48:03,680 And what I'm hearing in the council say is that there 641 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,660 wants to be, there's like some clarification, 642 00:48:06,220 --> 00:48:08,980 comes with like clarification regarding how these 643 00:48:08,980 --> 00:48:10,580 rates will be adjusted going forward. 644 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,040 And this is where it gets complicated, because the city has 645 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,700 all these different leases, without these different airport 646 00:48:15,700 --> 00:48:18,300 hanger, tenants, and they're all different depending on 647 00:48:18,300 --> 00:48:19,140 when they were executed. 648 00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:22,020 But they all reference this periodic readjustment. 649 00:48:22,020 --> 00:48:25,360 So perhaps clarification remains to amend number three 650 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,280 to indicate that the adjusted lease rates 651 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:33,580 listed above will be effective as of July 1, 2018 and re-evaluated and re-adjusted effective 652 00:48:33,580 --> 00:48:40,520 July 1, 2020 just to clarify that again this will come up in 2020, not sure that in capsules 653 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:41,480 like how close it is. 654 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:42,040 Yeah. 655 00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:43,220 That's always the way it's been. 656 00:48:43,540 --> 00:48:43,900 Very quickly. 657 00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:45,280 Can we just put like a biennual? 658 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,660 Re-evaluated biennually thereafter? 659 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,380 The other thing I think we should add to it is that right now we finally after all this time 660 00:48:59,380 --> 00:49:06,840 that it's CPI you with CPI you as if next year is going to have a new name, so I think we 661 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:07,780 should put that in there. 662 00:49:08,700 --> 00:49:11,980 I was thinking we have a point in time though that we can go back to as it adjusts out, so 663 00:49:11,980 --> 00:49:16,380 the next one won't be a year after that, so it's going to be pretty easy to rather compare 664 00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:16,700 us. 665 00:49:18,220 --> 00:49:22,040 You know, just in case if you make a CPI change, you know, they'd just say that they're going to 666 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,840 be another name at X-Y-Z, but if they decide at the last point to the official, 667 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:29,360 you know, 668 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,980 the name, and I'd like 669 00:49:33,700 --> 00:49:36,200 to point forward. The new name. 670 00:49:38,490 --> 00:49:41,690 It's very good to understand. It's the same as the CPI EU. 671 00:49:46,570 --> 00:49:47,210 I thought we were in the bottom. 672 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:57,460 I'll look for a motion. 673 00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:06,160 Do you want to make a motion? 674 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,840 I would make the motion, except I would rather abstain from. 675 00:50:10,780 --> 00:50:15,680 The budget could you rephrase the language you proposed for Adam 3 there? 676 00:50:16,980 --> 00:50:32,680 Thank you, ma'am. I was at the council. I did suggest to recommend that the language in item three could be revised to read the adjusted lease rates listed above would be affected as of July 1st, 2018 and will be re-evaluated and re-adjusted 677 00:50:33,940 --> 00:50:39,820 effect of July 1st or going forward, effect of July 1st of each year going forward or there 678 00:50:39,820 --> 00:50:42,560 is recommendation by any other after either or. 679 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:46,340 That's fine. 680 00:50:46,580 --> 00:50:52,660 I think that's clearly stated in the least holders contracts as well. 681 00:50:54,140 --> 00:50:56,660 So it's fine to have it in there. 682 00:50:57,260 --> 00:51:01,340 But I'll make a motion to a manner as Lucian has stated. 683 00:51:01,340 --> 00:51:09,220 as Bridget just stated correct all right so we have a motion I was second all right 684 00:51:09,220 --> 00:51:16,180 we're getting there any further discussion you're ignoring none all those in favor 685 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:22,660 all right all right all right all right all right all right all right 686 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:33,500 all right the 687 00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:35,520 kind of kick off the discussion this evening, 688 00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:37,520 regardless of the land exchange piece, 689 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,300 you have a number of materials in your packet 690 00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:42,040 and members of the council related 691 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,960 to a proposed development called Headwaters Place. 692 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,800 There are really two different sets of approvals 693 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,880 that the council is being asked to consider this evening. 694 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,920 There are a variety of land use and zone related approvals 695 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,160 that Donovan will take you through in a few minutes. 696 00:51:56,580 --> 00:51:58,800 But first and foremost is the initial matter 697 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,560 before the council, which is a proposed land exchange 698 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,100 between the city and Fenway investments. 699 00:52:04,860 --> 00:52:07,280 So I think if you can call it the map on them. 700 00:52:07,660 --> 00:52:07,960 Thank you. 701 00:52:08,180 --> 00:52:08,720 Looking up here. 702 00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:10,080 Can you exit it? 703 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,040 Come out. 704 00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:12,380 The graphic. 705 00:52:13,180 --> 00:52:13,380 I can't sure. 706 00:52:13,580 --> 00:52:13,900 I can't sure. 707 00:52:13,900 --> 00:52:14,920 I can't sure. 708 00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:20,380 Well, he's loading it and I can't talk the council through it. 709 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,080 So previously, the council was approached by Fenway Investments regarding a proposed 710 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:25,920 land exchange. 711 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:31,500 The city owns a large outlet called Outlot E, which abuts a personal owned by Fenway 712 00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:32,020 investments. 713 00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:35,840 Both are located within my water's PVD master plan area. 714 00:52:36,580 --> 00:52:42,400 The city owns, again, outlaw E. And, Fenway Investments is seeking to exchange 715 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:48,020 a portion of that city owned outlaw E for a parcel of property located adjacent to Fenway 716 00:52:48,020 --> 00:52:50,220 Athletic Complex north of the area. 717 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:55,720 The proposal is essentially an even exchange mean. There's no money that's contemplated 718 00:52:55,720 --> 00:53:03,660 to its change hands. Rather, the city would need to, finally, investments, 4.22 acre parcel 719 00:53:03,660 --> 00:53:09,140 of portion of outlaw E, which is shown, essentially in the yellow on the diagram in the 720 00:53:09,140 --> 00:53:15,260 visual and front of you, and exchange for the brown parcel to the north. The purchase agreement 721 00:53:15,260 --> 00:53:20,960 I should say, land exchange agreement, contemplates that, finally, investments would pay for 722 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,760 all of the costs associated, essentially all of the costs associated with the transfer, 723 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,380 including fees and things of that nature. 724 00:53:28,100 --> 00:53:33,680 I would note that the proposed closing is an August of this year, and this agenda item was sent 725 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:40,180 down to planning commission for its review and consideration and feedback prior to or in conjunction 726 00:53:40,180 --> 00:53:41,780 with the land use approvals. 727 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,200 I would be happy to answer any questions that Council has regarding the terms of the proposed 728 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,020 land exchange. 729 00:53:48,220 --> 00:53:54,280 I would note that there is a resolution in your packet on page 117 that references 730 00:53:54,280 --> 00:54:00,240 The exhibits which are the land exchange agreement, there's a new version that was provided to you just today. 731 00:54:00,860 --> 00:54:05,800 That was the result of the developer giving that information to the city just today. 732 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:11,780 And it references, again, the Planning Commission's review of the proposed land exchange in its written findings. 733 00:54:12,460 --> 00:54:16,460 The proposed land exchange in conjunction with the land use approval of being sought, 734 00:54:16,660 --> 00:54:23,020 are in compliance with the city's comprehensive plan for the city disposition of the property and city acquisition of the property. 735 00:54:23,020 --> 00:54:34,020 The proposed resolution would authorize the managed change as contemplated in the terms of the agreement and authorize the execution of the necessary closing documents by the mayor and city staff. 736 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,900 So if that I see up for any questions related to the land exchange component of the transaction. 737 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,770 Thank you, Bridget. Any questions for Bridget on this? 738 00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:56,150 All right, so take it to Donovan and who is doing the next question on this? 739 00:54:56,150 --> 00:55:03,430 I think we are contemplating a group in the land, yes, exchange agreement first, then moving into this only if the council is approval. 740 00:55:03,930 --> 00:55:10,270 I'll make a motion that we approve resolution 0.5158803. 741 00:55:10,650 --> 00:55:14,290 I believe our packet has an incorrect resolution number. 742 00:55:15,110 --> 00:55:18,150 0.515, it says 0.8, it should be 1803. 743 00:55:26,460 --> 00:55:30,620 All right. Open this up for any further discussion. 744 00:55:35,450 --> 00:55:42,440 The one concern I have on this is just with 745 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,260 houses being built there next to the airport. 746 00:55:47,540 --> 00:55:52,960 How do we document that, you know, these buyers and obviously 747 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:59,460 everybody knows there's another port there, but once, you know, homeowners move in there and say, 748 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:05,000 boy, it's so noisy here, you gotta do something or we're gonna, you know, sue you or do this 749 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:14,280 or that. And I'm just wondering what type of notice documents something in the provisions 750 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:19,580 here that say that the buyers are fully aware of this is next to a municipal airport. 751 00:56:19,580 --> 00:56:35,360 I agree with you, Ben, and I think that the developers have to acknowledge at least acknowledge that one of the things that's going to happen in that other area there too is for what is a four-story apartment building and you know what the noise isn't going to be the issue. What's going to be the issue is a lighting. 752 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,800 That means there's going to be a better than that for me. 753 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,740 And then on the end of those run, on the end of the runway, 754 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,100 both Answers think called Reals, 755 00:56:45,540 --> 00:56:48,460 Runway and Identification Lights, and they're very bright 756 00:56:48,460 --> 00:56:51,800 strobe lights that are operated by the pilot. 757 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:53,200 You can turn them on. 758 00:56:53,460 --> 00:56:54,380 They run and tell you land. 759 00:56:54,540 --> 00:56:56,340 And they're probably, I don't know, a 15-minute 760 00:56:56,340 --> 00:56:57,360 or whatever they run. 761 00:56:57,720 --> 00:56:59,500 But they're a very powerful strobe light. 762 00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:01,400 They're going to be shiny right in those windows. 763 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,420 And I know that the engineers that said, 764 00:57:04,420 --> 00:57:10,920 I had this as all great son of the overlay and all that stuff, but it's going to be an issue. 765 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,800 And somebody has asked to acknowledge that it's going to be an issue. 766 00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:18,980 Down on all this discussion at Planning Commission on this. 767 00:57:21,380 --> 00:57:26,720 We did hear this at public testimony that those lights are an issue at that time. 768 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:33,260 I mean, don't the plan commission, basically, they acknowledged that, but didn't make changing 769 00:57:33,260 --> 00:57:36,940 and recommendations involving the actual, you know, approval conditions. 770 00:57:38,660 --> 00:57:38,740 Yeah. 771 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:39,680 I was, I was at that meeting. 772 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:45,780 I just asked for the developers to acknowledge that that could be an issue, so I was 773 00:57:45,780 --> 00:57:46,700 going to make that statement. 774 00:57:47,660 --> 00:57:47,800 Okay. 775 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,140 So to follow on that, maybe the question for staff is, where is the best place in this 776 00:57:52,140 --> 00:57:58,920 process for us to get acknowledgement of that in or to request that we're kind of sitting 777 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,820 in the land exchange portion of the agenda. 778 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,660 I have a sense it's probably more in the project portion but the question is a good one 779 00:58:05,660 --> 00:58:07,860 and I guess I wonder where does that best belong? 780 00:58:08,580 --> 00:58:14,520 Well I don't want to get halfway through and then have to, yeah, I believe the best place for 781 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:24,680 It would be in the plat, which is a final resolution in your packet, one ending in 06. 782 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:32,260 There's a series of conditions there related to the platting, and that's involving the 783 00:58:32,260 --> 00:58:39,500 creation of the twin-home lots, and there is a HOA contemplated, and so the city often 784 00:58:39,500 --> 00:58:44,880 as you know we require this admission as a middle of those H.O.A. organizational documents. 785 00:58:45,780 --> 00:58:47,940 It's a prime of July to speak please. 786 00:58:49,980 --> 00:58:50,820 Thank you. 787 00:58:55,970 --> 00:58:57,110 I have a recommendation. 788 00:58:57,630 --> 00:58:59,110 Mayor and members of the Council. 789 00:58:59,970 --> 00:59:02,350 In the developers agreement I think it's where to put it. 790 00:59:03,510 --> 00:59:04,330 You know this. 791 00:59:05,090 --> 00:59:08,230 It's fine I just before we go down this path. 792 00:59:08,770 --> 00:59:10,990 It's good to work with you so thank you. 793 00:59:10,990 --> 00:59:17,950 But I don't, you know, I don't want to get beyond where we should and then have to backtrack on something. 794 00:59:18,030 --> 00:59:19,170 And I appreciate that. 795 00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:31,250 I do, and you know, the provision here is to, you know, I've got some experience in remodeling houses down in, you know, near the metropolitan airport. 796 00:59:31,850 --> 00:59:34,010 And then what kind of windows you might put in. 797 00:59:34,250 --> 00:59:38,910 All those sorts of things will be recommended, you know, sound editing. 798 00:59:42,490 --> 00:59:46,310 And I think the developers agreement is where to put it. 799 00:59:46,510 --> 00:59:46,730 All right. 800 00:59:47,230 --> 00:59:48,230 Yeah, Mr. Pride, I thank you. 801 00:59:48,490 --> 00:59:48,970 Because that, 802 00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:51,920 no sound. 803 00:59:51,940 --> 00:59:53,780 These wheels put it around the end. 804 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,440 Are they shielding on the back side or anything? 805 00:59:56,660 --> 00:59:59,960 Well, for an backside there is a much, it's a kind of a straight forward. 806 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:05,100 There's a pair of money each end of the runway. And what I don't follow you tonight or anything else. 807 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:13,640 Yeah, if it's a little bit, you know, we're certainly not an instrument-rated airport at the time, but people still use them even once we afar. 808 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:24,040 Because it does show you right where the threshold is. And they're very powerful, strobe light. And if you ever see them, if you're going on 61 and they happen to be on, you're going to know it. 809 01:00:24,540 --> 01:00:29,140 And I don't, you know, like a Mr. Prats development, I don't think it's going to be that big of a deal. 810 01:00:29,140 --> 01:00:30,840 as it is to that department. 811 01:00:31,780 --> 01:00:33,980 That's proposed in that next parcel there. 812 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,780 And he does have some trees there that are kind of shielding that area there, 813 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,080 but we're all aware of it for certainly. 814 01:00:43,340 --> 01:00:43,620 All right. 815 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:53,540 We have a motion in a second for the land exchange, do you believe? 816 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:55,600 Any further discussion? 817 01:00:58,480 --> 01:00:59,380 Well, they're here and done. 818 01:00:59,820 --> 01:01:00,540 All those in favor? 819 01:01:00,900 --> 01:01:01,380 Aye. 820 01:01:01,380 --> 01:01:01,580 Aye. 821 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:03,380 Opposed? 822 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:06,440 So 823 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,020 we'll take it on to the second portion of it. 824 01:01:15,430 --> 01:01:22,450 Mayor members of the council like to present the multiple applications to create, but essentially, a 32-in-home 825 01:01:22,450 --> 01:01:24,150 lot of developmental, residential development. 826 01:01:26,130 --> 01:01:34,010 As the city attorney showed the, you know, showed again just for your reference, where this 827 01:01:34,010 --> 01:01:40,170 The proposal is on the southern end of the approach zone of the Missile Airport, with the 828 01:01:40,170 --> 01:01:45,010 Trans-Senter, the service center and the YMCA to the south and trail side apartments, 829 01:01:45,850 --> 01:01:47,250 there as well. 830 01:01:48,250 --> 01:01:55,010 To actually affect this subdivision, the series of applications improve a lot of 831 01:01:55,010 --> 01:02:04,590 which would merge the, um, the last thing, change parcel to the wooded area to the, uh, 832 01:02:05,210 --> 01:02:09,790 the curly own local family, curly, um, private home, own local family, a lot. 833 01:02:10,090 --> 01:02:15,270 Comprehensive plan amendment, which I'll, I'll, you tell these little, uh, later here, 834 01:02:15,830 --> 01:02:20,950 Zoe Meph amendment, plenary pd amendment, that's plan new development amendment, and a plenary 835 01:02:20,950 --> 01:02:23,790 platform application, which is subdivided in the property. 836 01:02:25,690 --> 01:02:30,990 See, Council has reviewed this, and a couple of workshops last summer 837 01:02:30,990 --> 01:02:36,990 into fall, and the approved the concept plan in January of this year. 838 01:02:38,470 --> 01:02:41,350 If at the April 25th, Plan and Commission meeting, 839 01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:45,650 Plan and Commission did recommend city council approval of the applications. 840 01:02:49,850 --> 01:03:02,290 And explain a little further on exactly what we mean by the zoning map and future land use comprehensive plan changes. 841 01:03:02,470 --> 01:03:06,310 You can see the existing conditions here on your left. 842 01:03:07,310 --> 01:03:09,070 That's the private homes parcel. 843 01:03:09,750 --> 01:03:11,270 A lot E is the city on parcel. 844 01:03:11,270 --> 01:03:20,850 And what the proposal is is to then change, put this into, um, into, uh, 845 01:03:21,090 --> 01:03:29,650 private home ownership, and then rezone this all the shaded area to MX R1, or a future 846 01:03:29,650 --> 01:03:37,110 land use of, um, low-medium, density residential, and so that's the, that's the end game, 847 01:03:38,130 --> 01:03:40,710 Then, more specifically, 848 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:48,260 the project areas about 11.8 acres, this is for the subdivision 849 01:03:48,260 --> 01:03:48,760 plant. 850 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:55,800 And we have a mixture of zoning districts, including industrial, multiple family, headwaters, 851 01:03:56,060 --> 01:03:57,220 PUD, and airport overlay. 852 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:03,780 The campgrounds of land use plan, that's in the comprehensive plan, is high-density residential 853 01:04:03,780 --> 01:04:05,020 and parking recreation. 854 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:13,560 And what's sought here is for the component amendment is to change the future land use category 855 01:04:14,580 --> 01:04:19,400 from the city property, from parking recreation to low-medium density residential. 856 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:28,180 And that rear part of the proud homes land from high-density residential to low-medium density residential. 857 01:04:28,660 --> 01:04:30,420 Again, this is for the twin-home development. 858 01:04:30,420 --> 01:04:33,580 And similarly, for the zoning app amendment, 859 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:40,560 change the zoning from industrial to the MXR1 single 860 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,840 in townhouse residential, and then from multiple 861 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,380 family to, again, MXR1. 862 01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:52,680 The planned unit development amendment is for the 863 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:53,800 original headwaters amendment. 864 01:04:54,520 --> 01:05:00,400 It was adopted past in 2006, what's proposed here for the 865 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,960 is a change of building setbacks, 866 01:05:03,620 --> 01:05:06,160 in which these largely mirror what we've seen 867 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:10,280 at Headwaters 11, where there is a similar single level 868 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,100 town, homes that have never seen the plenary platter 869 01:05:14,100 --> 01:05:15,120 approval from Council. 870 01:05:17,140 --> 01:05:20,060 For this, theaper pose of front-loaded town 871 01:05:20,060 --> 01:05:24,000 home that's vehicle access from the front with 872 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:28,940 the garage space in the street, which the original Headwaters 873 01:05:30,340 --> 01:05:37,060 Master Pewdie did not have this type of building, and then a change from minimum lot 874 01:05:37,060 --> 01:05:44,760 size and width to a 5,000 square foot lot at the minimum 32 foot width, and then also 875 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:50,040 a proposed parking standard, which is 2 in close and 2 off street, you know, basically 876 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:54,960 driveway parking spaces, which also is compatible with single family homes throughout 877 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,500 to the city in the zone code. 878 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:05,860 One thing, if you notice, also, I want to mention that the resolutions 879 01:06:05,860 --> 01:06:11,120 that you're receiving the packet, different ones aspect with the exhibit. 880 01:06:11,540 --> 01:06:14,900 And this is a, you've received a paper copy this evening. 881 01:06:16,380 --> 01:06:20,520 The actual length change parser is 4.22 acres. 882 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:31,200 as the city turned mentioned, or I owe a clarification on that, and this point, since 883 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:39,880 Council has received information on this over the last years, so I would like to basically 884 01:06:42,820 --> 01:06:48,740 leave that, not talk more about the project, but mention that if Council is entertaining 885 01:06:48,740 --> 01:06:57,320 motions to go in specific order that relate to the kind of the overall, from general to 886 01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:05,500 specific. So start with motion, start with resolution, any no four, and then the 887 01:07:05,500 --> 01:07:12,260 ordent, and that relates to the complement amendment, then the ordent's number 674, which 888 01:07:12,260 --> 01:07:13,880 relates to the zoning map amendment, 889 01:07:17,220 --> 01:07:21,380 then the resolution 05 that relates to the 890 01:07:21,380 --> 01:07:24,120 planning and development amendment. 891 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:33,140 And then 06 relates to the plenary plot, you know, passing a adoption. 892 01:07:33,940 --> 01:07:40,060 And of course, if I could remind you that that would be where any sort of 893 01:07:40,060 --> 01:07:47,080 to the development agreement would be the best place to include that is an additional condition of the approval. 894 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,520 So with that, I'd like to take any questions from City Council. 895 01:07:57,890 --> 01:08:04,450 You just go back to the slide where we're amending the 8th of the zoning. 896 01:08:05,490 --> 01:08:06,710 Oh, yes, sure. 897 01:08:07,610 --> 01:08:08,910 Oh, one there, the one out. 898 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,100 This one? 899 01:08:17,980 --> 01:08:20,040 Well, I guess my questions were amending that. 900 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:27,160 Are we amending Mr. Pratt's parcel that we're taking in exchange, or is that staying 901 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,340 in industrial, 902 01:08:30,440 --> 01:08:35,700 or, oh, yes, that's, this zoning methamment, and complementment do not involve 903 01:08:35,700 --> 01:08:36,660 that property. 904 01:08:36,900 --> 01:08:41,160 So it's currently its own industrial with airport overlay, and that's proposed for me. 905 01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:50,020 I guess that can be done in a later day, but I don't see any logic in keeping that industrial 906 01:08:50,020 --> 01:08:57,560 So, at its location, so maybe we need to put that on workshop or something, or just look 907 01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:02,000 at when we can change that to, for 908 01:09:10,580 --> 01:09:13,080 emotions or questions or answers. 909 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:17,700 I feel like this has been well workshoped, and well discussed as we've gone through. 910 01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,800 So I don't have a lot of questions for staff. 911 01:09:22,980 --> 01:09:23,900 I like it. 912 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:28,420 I mean, I just regret, I've been really good to work with on this, thank you. 913 01:09:28,420 --> 01:09:33,560 I've heard a lot of good things about the product that it's single-level, down in the home. 914 01:09:33,980 --> 01:09:35,580 It seems like there's a good demand for it. 915 01:09:35,700 --> 01:09:41,220 We're just discussing that at the EDA a little bit earlier, so I think it'll work out well. 916 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,440 I think it should work out well for everybody. 917 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:56,320 I do want to talk to Ryan a little bit, because not this, but forest road north itself actually seems to be getting so much more traffic on it, 918 01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:07,320 And headwaters parkway, and I'm just wondering if there's, you know, any way we can get people actually go to the stop late and use headwaters parkway. 919 01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:12,280 Or if it's just more of a product of having that develop more. 920 01:10:13,380 --> 01:10:17,380 But by far at night, I see so many vehicles on forest road. 921 01:10:17,900 --> 01:10:18,480 And that's fine. 922 01:10:18,620 --> 01:10:21,260 But that really wasn't the intention of that. 923 01:10:23,580 --> 01:10:25,360 That's a discussion for further down. 924 01:10:25,540 --> 01:10:30,420 I don't want to put you on the spot right now, but for us to actually get head waters, Parkway, 925 01:10:31,140 --> 01:10:34,940 growing and developing and be nice to get to a lot more wheels than that one, and we'll 926 01:10:34,940 --> 01:10:35,860 so straff it comes. 927 01:10:39,180 --> 01:10:41,040 So back to the land exchange. 928 01:10:41,580 --> 01:10:44,500 Any further questions or we'll get a motion on that? 929 01:10:45,660 --> 01:10:45,920 Okay. 930 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:52,100 I'll kick us up with a motion to approve resolution 0 5 14 18 and 0 4. 931 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,200 We'll second that off the first step, leave. 932 01:10:56,700 --> 01:10:56,940 All right. 933 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,500 Now, this is just for the land exchanges itself. 934 01:10:59,780 --> 01:11:00,340 Go for your sand. 935 01:11:00,700 --> 01:11:01,460 It was at the motion. 936 01:11:01,900 --> 01:11:03,680 This is a job being a comprehensive plan. 937 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:08,840 I'm going to vote no on that. 938 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,420 Simply because we just did this recently, 939 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,260 where we turned down a zoning tax amendment here about a month ago, 940 01:11:16,660 --> 01:11:18,860 has nothing to do with Mr. Pratt's project. 941 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,980 Has nothing to do with his product. 942 01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:31,260 It's because of the consistency of how we vote for clarification on that, not right now. 943 01:11:31,580 --> 01:11:37,940 This is just to amend this parcel, not change the language of everything that's own that way, correct? 944 01:11:41,140 --> 01:11:42,020 Any further discussions? 945 01:11:44,450 --> 01:11:45,050 All those in favour? 946 01:11:45,810 --> 01:11:46,370 Aye. 947 01:11:47,130 --> 01:11:47,590 Opposed? 948 01:11:48,590 --> 01:11:49,470 An abstain. 949 01:11:50,330 --> 01:11:50,530 All right. 950 01:11:51,170 --> 01:11:51,850 Motion carries. 951 01:11:53,290 --> 01:11:53,770 I'll do the second. 952 01:12:03,050 --> 01:12:07,030 Don, and then just doing a quick place, check the next step, the next step would be 953 01:12:07,030 --> 01:12:09,410 approving ordinance 674, correct? 954 01:12:09,850 --> 01:12:09,930 Correct. 955 01:12:09,930 --> 01:12:12,710 Which is the zoning code relating to the zoning maps. 956 01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:16,520 Follow. 957 01:12:16,860 --> 01:12:20,140 I know it's the make a motion that we approve ordinance 674. 958 01:12:22,220 --> 01:12:23,040 All right, we have a motion. 959 01:12:23,340 --> 01:12:24,220 Have a second. 960 01:12:25,140 --> 01:12:26,040 Any further discussion? 961 01:12:30,140 --> 01:12:30,940 All those in favour? 962 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:32,200 Aye. 963 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:33,360 Opposed? 964 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:35,360 And abstain. 965 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,860 On to see motion to approve resolution. 966 01:12:41,860 --> 01:12:49,080 0,5, 14, 18, 0,5, pooling, preliminary, PDE amendment. 967 01:12:51,410 --> 01:12:54,770 Now the development agreement, Donna, and then we'll come to us later. 968 01:12:55,650 --> 01:13:00,410 Yeah, within the platform, approval, there's a specific why it relates to conditions related 969 01:13:00,410 --> 01:13:04,550 to financials and we've got the best place for it. 970 01:13:04,750 --> 01:13:05,970 Another four, four, two documents. 971 01:13:08,710 --> 01:13:12,170 And the HOA, do we have anything to do with that as well? 972 01:13:12,170 --> 01:13:17,350 The city often does request those organizational documents and I find it helpful to have a record, 973 01:13:18,210 --> 01:13:21,890 but it's essentially a private contract between the developer and buyers. 974 01:13:24,990 --> 01:13:33,750 But certainly as part of a subdivision, I believe the city protects public health and welfare. 975 01:13:35,270 --> 01:13:40,170 It's a good option, I believe, to include some sort of acknowledgement so that, 976 01:13:41,230 --> 01:13:50,130 Well, I get fewer calls for noise and essentially I think the noise ordinance is not restrictive enough to actually prohibit any sort of airport flight. 977 01:13:50,190 --> 01:13:51,530 You know, what I could be like that. 978 01:13:52,790 --> 01:14:05,850 But, you know, believe it's just to make sure that it's acknowledged that this is a pretty distant condition and buyers are buying into this, you know, location that has an airport there for the foreseeable future. 979 01:14:06,930 --> 01:14:08,510 All right, thank you. 980 01:14:09,370 --> 01:14:13,330 And the discussion is not a vote for a motion number 981 01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,820 0.5, 14, 18, 0.5, 982 01:14:24,940 --> 01:14:26,800 improving the preliminary period event. 983 01:14:27,740 --> 01:14:27,800 Thank you. 984 01:14:27,900 --> 01:14:28,700 Thank you. 985 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:30,620 All right, we have motion a second. 986 01:14:30,660 --> 01:14:31,540 Any further discussion? 987 01:14:33,650 --> 01:14:34,530 All those in favour? 988 01:14:34,970 --> 01:14:35,350 Aye. 989 01:14:36,610 --> 01:14:37,210 Opposed? 990 01:14:38,510 --> 01:14:38,810 Motion carries. 991 01:14:40,170 --> 01:14:41,610 And last one. 992 01:14:42,710 --> 01:14:46,110 Motion approval resolution 0.5, 14, 0.6. 993 01:14:46,110 --> 01:14:51,370 We're proving the preliminary plan for the headwaters plan with all staff conditions. 994 01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:59,840 The interest in staff's recommendation of a revision to accommodate language for. 995 01:15:01,330 --> 01:15:02,010 That would 996 01:15:07,700 --> 01:15:21,800 be in the development of this. That was my understanding. Not in the one that I read, what in the actual development of the government when they come back. 997 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:22,700 You got it. 998 01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:29,160 Do I have an evening reference in the edits to this particular resolution? 999 01:15:29,900 --> 01:15:32,600 No, but the, 1000 01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:42,620 and we don't, perhaps there's language you could add that does relate to 1001 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,380 the, you know, maybe it is a little bit additional, whereas we often don't work with 1002 01:15:47,380 --> 01:15:47,740 resolutions. 1003 01:15:48,020 --> 01:15:49,760 We want to do this time to get everything specific. 1004 01:15:50,180 --> 01:15:53,800 So perhaps it's city to help us here in this one. 1005 01:15:56,740 --> 01:16:03,960 So the resolution of the packet was prepared by my office to just form a line and explain 1006 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:09,560 what we're doing and to provide a written record as to the city's approval of the preliminary 1007 01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:14,820 flight as you know, the preliminary flight of approval is essentially final flight of approval. 1008 01:16:15,180 --> 01:16:19,880 So if a flight comes forward and it's consistent with what's been presented to the council 1009 01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:26,040 as far as the preliminary plan is concerned, and the issues are addressed as indicated in 1010 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:31,140 the city-engineers' letter, had it what the city is looking at. So it's an important 1011 01:16:31,140 --> 01:16:35,220 step in the process for the council to consider and determine if the preliminary 1012 01:16:35,220 --> 01:16:39,060 plan meets all of the requirements of the city-cold-related two-plighting. 1013 01:16:39,260 --> 01:16:45,640 My understanding is speaking with staff, there are 66 conditions which are listed in the 1014 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:51,620 and years later dated April 18th, so the proposed approval of the preliminary five is subject 1015 01:16:51,620 --> 01:16:56,920 to addressing all of these conditions. These do include execution of a development agreement 1016 01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:02,280 and a few other issues there. But if there are considerations or concerns, Council has 1017 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:07,220 it would be good to watch those out in the city and to go ahead and illustrate it at this 1018 01:17:12,310 --> 01:17:20,350 So that was 66 conditions, noise is not one of them at this present time. 1019 01:17:20,550 --> 01:17:21,550 Not tonight at all right. 1020 01:17:21,790 --> 01:17:23,970 I don't think that's any mention anymore in that letter. 1021 01:17:24,050 --> 01:17:25,530 I did not comment on that. 1022 01:17:28,440 --> 01:17:31,440 Well, noise and or lighting, as long as something's okay with lighting, 1023 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:32,760 we might have more of a difference. 1024 01:17:33,820 --> 01:17:37,200 So before I understand you right, the time to do this now. 1025 01:17:38,060 --> 01:17:43,720 So I think NAM members with Council, I think the issue is that you want to ensure that individuals 1026 01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:48,060 who are purchasing property are aware that there's an airport and airports come with 1027 01:17:48,060 --> 01:17:48,840 no even light. 1028 01:17:49,480 --> 01:17:53,140 So what I have heard the conversations today is that it's part of the development of the 1029 01:17:53,140 --> 01:17:56,900 government and the developer of here's to indicate that he's a meetable business that the 1030 01:17:56,900 --> 01:18:02,480 future development of those properties, purchasers of the property will be advised in some form 1031 01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:06,500 you're adjacent to an airport, there is noise, there are lights, essentially a fire of 1032 01:18:06,500 --> 01:18:17,160 So in the thought that it really could put something and I understand that he's agreeing to this right here on the spot that when he can provide buyers information related to the existing 1033 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,080 afford and some of those considerations. 1034 01:18:20,220 --> 01:18:28,520 So I think that necessarily has to be a condition that the guidance to these conditions, which really prioritizes the technical specifications of the file itself. 1035 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,520 But it's certainly incorporated into the thought that we're doing. 1036 01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:46,240 But as a present time, there's nothing like Mr. Pratt suggested that, to be able to put in a certain kind of window, because of the voice more noise, that's not any of this. 1037 01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:52,300 No, so what, again, what you're reviewing here is a preliminary approval, which is really the subdivision of the land itself. 1038 01:18:52,640 --> 01:19:01,460 So what you're approving, how the land can be divided and you've amended the PV to incorporate the types of uses that could be on the land, all of those designs, 1039 01:19:01,820 --> 01:19:06,680 the specifications that is not before you as part of the preliminary PV approval. 1040 01:19:10,180 --> 01:19:16,560 But we'll come to a set of future meeting, correct? Those items would be yet to come in that next phase. 1041 01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:20,680 and so the items we are concerned about tonight we have opportunity to address side of 1042 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:21,300 the future meeting. 1043 01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:25,780 So, specifically, if you're talking about the notification piece, many of the staff will 1044 01:19:25,780 --> 01:19:27,380 come recording a mid-development agreement. 1045 01:19:27,780 --> 01:19:31,100 So, in the development agreement, we can put out information about the notification 1046 01:19:31,100 --> 01:19:33,800 requirements that's being requested by the city. 1047 01:19:33,980 --> 01:19:38,780 And certainly, since that out there, I would assume individuals who are potentially 1048 01:19:38,780 --> 01:19:46,540 purchasing a product, either interacting from a developer or whoever they're going to 1049 01:19:46,540 --> 01:19:50,540 have somebody else build them and so on. And again, there will be some notification to the 1050 01:19:50,540 --> 01:19:54,340 purchase about this property. And hopefully we'll end up reaching and you turn out 1051 01:19:54,340 --> 01:19:59,700 to assume that that might be used to facilitate design discussions related to the windows 1052 01:19:59,700 --> 01:20:05,540 or any improvements that buy and might want to buy or make to that unit of their purchase 1053 01:20:05,540 --> 01:20:06,680 and say whether it is ID-9. 1054 01:20:07,660 --> 01:20:12,020 And those details one presented to the Planning Commission and that's the time they would 1055 01:20:12,020 --> 01:20:18,640 forward, right, as the city could recommend that we have some proof windows at that time. 1056 01:20:18,900 --> 01:20:23,000 So, it's just quite your ability to get a focus on the vision of the land. This isn't 1057 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:27,140 entirely talking about the most specific issues. I don't understand it, but at a later 1058 01:20:27,140 --> 01:20:28,380 date, I don't know. 1059 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,980 And they actually put the proposal of what kind of building's going there and all that. 1060 01:20:32,180 --> 01:20:37,040 Well, it's already been kind of touched on the colonel and P.U.D. of who are seeing the 1061 01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,760 in my life, between home, how does it go through? 1062 01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:41,700 And Ryan, I don't know if there's any 1063 01:20:41,700 --> 01:20:44,960 in the building, her main point of the days 1064 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,800 or anything like that, that's not usually 1065 01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,600 unlike any single point in the bottom of it. 1066 01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,800 I don't know how that information is conveyed, 1067 01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:53,560 but really, the type of windows you're going to put in 1068 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,020 is ultimately up on the end, users are in the developer. 1069 01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,600 So the second city while I was to be able to point back 1070 01:21:00,180 --> 01:21:02,140 to something that's powerful in it, 1071 01:21:02,260 --> 01:21:04,120 because I really want to make sure that the buyers 1072 01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,000 are aware that I think that's 1073 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,920 I think what I do in the point is we'll incorporate that 1074 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,380 know if the patient keeps him in the development rate, right? 1075 01:21:10,700 --> 01:21:10,960 Yeah. 1076 01:21:13,220 --> 01:21:13,920 Thank you, Griget. 1077 01:21:15,100 --> 01:21:19,420 I guess my concern was noise to begin with, 1078 01:21:21,300 --> 01:21:24,840 but since we have a new item, these wheels going in at the airport, 1079 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:30,280 are they on the ground or are they on the ground level, 1080 01:21:30,820 --> 01:21:31,860 at the end of the road, right? 1081 01:21:31,860 --> 01:21:34,000 I have to in the runway under just all two big headlights. 1082 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:41,040 It's a big question, is can there be some shrubbery, something behind them, between them and the apartment building? 1083 01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:47,420 I mean, the closer we get some type of screening to that light, I thought I would walk it from the building. 1084 01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,940 I think if you're going to do that, it would have to go next to the development. 1085 01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:54,060 It would have to be off the earth. 1086 01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:55,140 Okay. 1087 01:21:55,700 --> 01:21:57,020 Well, again, it's been done. 1088 01:21:57,220 --> 01:21:58,720 I don't think they were aware of it. 1089 01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:04,500 probably did that hold it or it's, but yeah, I mean, it probably isn't going to be that big 1090 01:22:04,500 --> 01:22:04,960 an issue. 1091 01:22:05,300 --> 01:22:08,800 No, I think it's just something that people need to be aware of, so you can kick in your 1092 01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,120 picture every three seconds, you know? 1093 01:22:11,540 --> 01:22:12,260 I think so. 1094 01:22:14,180 --> 01:22:17,740 Well, there's a lot of developers aware of it and, you know, it's acknowledged. 1095 01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:24,840 I mean, I don't really think we need to put any, it's a small cost on construction, but 1096 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,660 Well, he's just, I mean, he's certainly willing to put it in the development agreement. 1097 01:22:31,180 --> 01:22:33,320 So, it's just an awareness thing. 1098 01:22:37,270 --> 01:22:38,410 Well, I'd say questions. 1099 01:22:39,470 --> 01:22:41,950 I'll be ready to walk a man out next the airport. 1100 01:22:42,370 --> 01:22:43,710 I'll be ready to take some of the facilities. 1101 01:22:43,890 --> 01:22:45,050 We got this. 1102 01:22:45,630 --> 01:22:46,330 Correct, you know. 1103 01:22:46,350 --> 01:22:47,190 I think so. 1104 01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:51,860 I'm in the motion that we have approved. 1105 01:22:52,140 --> 01:22:55,280 Resolution 0515 1806. 1106 01:22:56,480 --> 01:22:57,940 Which is the preliminary part. 1107 01:22:58,060 --> 01:22:59,060 All second up. 1108 01:23:00,970 --> 01:23:01,310 All right. 1109 01:23:01,310 --> 01:23:05,290 We had a motion, we have a second, clarification that is correct number. 1110 01:23:06,330 --> 01:23:10,090 I'd just incorrect on the, you have the correct number. 1111 01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:14,390 0 by 14, 18, 0, 6. 1112 01:23:15,250 --> 01:23:15,810 That's what I got. 1113 01:23:15,830 --> 01:23:16,810 Yeah, that was correct number. 1114 01:23:16,810 --> 01:23:17,930 It was one before that. 1115 01:23:18,190 --> 01:23:18,570 It was incorrect. 1116 01:23:18,670 --> 01:23:20,030 It's missed type in the packet. 1117 01:23:20,510 --> 01:23:21,650 Yeah, no, summary document. 1118 01:23:21,970 --> 01:23:22,030 Oh. 1119 01:23:22,410 --> 01:23:22,570 Okay. 1120 01:23:22,570 --> 01:23:23,410 On that resolution number. 1121 01:23:23,590 --> 01:23:24,090 It's all correct. 1122 01:23:29,580 --> 01:23:31,660 I think it's the plan. 1123 01:23:32,420 --> 01:23:32,960 That's the question. 1124 01:23:34,180 --> 01:23:35,560 Any further discussion on that? 1125 01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:41,360 Very none. I'm going to go a question. I'll close the paper. Hi. Hi. 1126 01:23:41,860 --> 01:23:44,420 A close and abstain. 1127 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:46,540 I'm going to take care of 1128 01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:49,460 it. 1129 01:23:51,900 --> 01:23:54,360 That's even way more complicated than it should have been. 1130 01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:59,720 Part of my fault. There's no question about that. 1131 01:24:00,180 --> 01:24:01,820 But you don't want to say it's a zoning map amendment. 1132 01:24:02,340 --> 01:24:03,260 It's an amendment to the zoning. 1133 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:04,420 I don't care how you slice it. 1134 01:24:08,270 --> 01:24:09,370 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't need some vision. 1135 01:24:09,510 --> 01:24:09,870 Rig it. 1136 01:24:10,630 --> 01:24:12,770 Thank you. I'm very, very, very helpful. 1137 01:24:13,490 --> 01:24:15,230 Before you to see me clear consideration, 1138 01:24:15,230 --> 01:24:22,550 is ordering from a 675 which makes some adjustments to the cities existing, the size, there 1139 01:24:22,550 --> 01:24:26,870 be business and the size, there, but the size seems to be pretty cool. 1140 01:24:28,250 --> 01:24:31,470 This item was brought in a couple of potential in the workshop back in January. 1141 01:24:32,350 --> 01:24:37,510 There was a kind of wholesale revision of the code that was brought for some equipment and 1142 01:24:37,510 --> 01:24:38,250 health and directions. 1143 01:24:38,530 --> 01:24:43,390 The staff was to really take a look at the code's orders and focus on the whole code 1144 01:24:43,390 --> 01:24:48,170 on the public safety aspects and how the ordinance be revised, 1145 01:24:48,330 --> 01:24:51,430 the best meetings of the city, from a public safety standpoint, 1146 01:24:51,650 --> 01:24:54,950 from a licensing perspective, and from a law enforcement perspective. 1147 01:24:55,570 --> 01:24:59,390 So in that direction of mine, we took a look at the proposed ordinance 1148 01:24:59,390 --> 01:25:00,290 revisions. 1149 01:25:00,610 --> 01:25:02,670 Chief leaders and I had a conversation. 1150 01:25:03,210 --> 01:25:06,110 He provided his input about what he thought was a lot of significant 1151 01:25:06,110 --> 01:25:07,390 proposal revisions. 1152 01:25:07,870 --> 01:25:11,390 And from that conversation, the discussion came, the proposed ordinance 1153 01:25:11,390 --> 01:25:14,110 before you consideration this e-mail. 1154 01:25:14,810 --> 01:25:17,830 The proposed ordinance does attempt to address 1155 01:25:17,830 --> 01:25:21,070 the monthly concerns that were raised by number one, 1156 01:25:21,510 --> 01:25:23,730 adding additional language requesting information 1157 01:25:23,730 --> 01:25:25,910 about previous licensing suspensions 1158 01:25:25,910 --> 01:25:29,370 and obligations for applicants for licenses from the city, 1159 01:25:30,230 --> 01:25:33,950 by adding in language that would allow the denial 1160 01:25:33,950 --> 01:25:37,030 of a license if a person has certain types 1161 01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:39,670 of criminal convictions and had not shown 1162 01:25:39,670 --> 01:25:44,090 out to an evidence of sufficient rehabilitation is required by statute order to have that 1163 01:25:44,090 --> 01:25:44,950 license issued. 1164 01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:51,110 The application process is clarified in the sense that, before or in the little, I would 1165 01:25:51,110 --> 01:25:54,630 clear the license kind of went to the city clerk and the meeting went to the council on 1166 01:25:54,630 --> 01:26:00,270 it was unclear who is issuing a license but because of the discretionary components that 1167 01:26:00,270 --> 01:26:05,130 necessarily go into granting these licensees, which include this consideration of our new 1168 01:26:05,130 --> 01:26:06,610 of good moral care and energy. 1169 01:26:06,710 --> 01:26:08,830 Have you shown sufficient evidence of rehabilitation? 1170 01:26:09,570 --> 01:26:11,770 These discretionary decisions are not 1171 01:26:11,770 --> 01:26:14,070 ones that can be downloaded into the city court. 1172 01:26:14,230 --> 01:26:16,170 So, of course, for all of the size there have been 1173 01:26:16,170 --> 01:26:19,670 some therapy businesses, their licensees 1174 01:26:19,670 --> 01:26:21,370 will come before the Council for approval. 1175 01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:24,610 We also clarify what the process looks like 1176 01:26:24,610 --> 01:26:26,990 for a suspension of application of the licenses. 1177 01:26:27,270 --> 01:26:29,370 If they fail to provide the terms and conditions 1178 01:26:29,370 --> 01:26:32,230 of the license, which do remain law-writing, 1179 01:26:32,230 --> 01:26:42,810 We added in some language that prohibits advertising of illegal or erotic content or conduct at the license premises as part of the conditions of the license. 1180 01:26:43,210 --> 01:26:53,410 To give one or two in a city of Google, if you see ads, for example, on backcage.com or other places where the services that are being advertised appear to imply a constitutional 1181 01:26:53,410 --> 01:26:59,690 Well, it serves as to say this is a violation of your license that can serve as a tool to gain compliance. 1182 01:27:01,250 --> 01:27:05,090 I would also note that there were a number of provisions that were removed. 1183 01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:08,470 Some of these had to do with information that we don't work with. 1184 01:27:08,610 --> 01:27:10,170 So I think that was the city of Clark. 1185 01:27:10,170 --> 01:27:13,330 We don't ask information about kind of the business location. 1186 01:27:13,570 --> 01:27:15,090 We don't look at the lease for the property. 1187 01:27:15,370 --> 01:27:17,370 We don't ask about the creditor information. 1188 01:27:17,570 --> 01:27:18,510 We're not collecting it. 1189 01:27:18,510 --> 01:27:21,250 So we shouldn't have it not code saying we're collecting it. 1190 01:27:21,250 --> 01:27:24,630 And then some of the last provision in the ordinance 1191 01:27:24,630 --> 01:27:28,050 were repealed related to kind of the criminal panel 1192 01:27:28,050 --> 01:27:29,690 penalties and things like that. 1193 01:27:29,870 --> 01:27:31,730 That's really a style of practice. 1194 01:27:32,110 --> 01:27:34,390 There is a general penalty section in the city 1195 01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:36,850 poll, which makes everything unnecessary 1196 01:27:36,850 --> 01:27:38,570 unless determined otherwise. 1197 01:27:38,750 --> 01:27:41,470 So any violation of this poll or even over repealing away 1198 01:27:41,470 --> 01:27:43,770 was in the section of the Senate, and the mayor is still 1199 01:27:43,770 --> 01:27:44,230 in the Senate. 1200 01:27:44,910 --> 01:27:47,070 So again, essentially, the proposed ordinance 1201 01:27:47,070 --> 01:27:49,510 decisions seek to provide bond enforcement 1202 01:27:49,510 --> 01:27:54,090 the city with those two influences on the public safety and health safety and welfare aspects 1203 01:27:54,090 --> 01:27:56,210 of regulating these types of businesses. 1204 01:27:56,850 --> 01:28:00,410 I didn't completely impact the two different documents for your review. 1205 01:28:00,570 --> 01:28:07,830 Is it a show of the renewables and proposed provisions for the City Code and why is the 1206 01:28:07,830 --> 01:28:10,890 key to see them in a broader context about the other licensing provisions? 1207 01:28:11,430 --> 01:28:15,410 Just for ease of reference, the second document, which is the actual evidence itself, 1208 01:28:15,690 --> 01:28:18,830 is what the Council is being asked to review and consider this evening, 1209 01:28:18,830 --> 01:28:23,550 which, again, shows specifically the information and the onboarding that has been removed, 1210 01:28:23,670 --> 01:28:25,630 and it has been proposed for an official. 1211 01:28:26,490 --> 01:28:29,550 So with that I see up for any questions from your other account, so. 1212 01:28:30,490 --> 01:28:31,130 Thank you, Bigger. 1213 01:28:31,310 --> 01:28:33,590 I think you did a really good job with these versions. 1214 01:28:35,150 --> 01:28:38,150 I would like to see one change on here. 1215 01:28:38,730 --> 01:28:39,910 The hours of operation. 1216 01:28:42,830 --> 01:28:47,830 The ADM seems not really modern. 1217 01:28:47,830 --> 01:28:52,710 I mean, I would like to see six A.N. as a starting time. 1218 01:28:53,610 --> 01:28:56,790 I think there's a lot of people that would, if it was available, 1219 01:28:57,350 --> 01:28:59,510 they could get them sized before they had outdoor. 1220 01:29:01,570 --> 01:29:05,910 So, and whether at 9.10, the closing time could be debatable, 1221 01:29:07,490 --> 01:29:12,110 but I think that at least providing that for the people that are working the end, 1222 01:29:12,230 --> 01:29:14,450 we've seen that would be good. 1223 01:29:18,100 --> 01:29:18,660 Any other comments? 1224 01:29:18,660 --> 01:29:20,890 I wouldn't have a problem with that. 1225 01:29:23,310 --> 01:29:23,610 Thank you, Sam. 1226 01:29:25,110 --> 01:29:25,790 I agree. 1227 01:29:26,090 --> 01:29:26,810 I did have a question. 1228 01:29:26,990 --> 01:29:31,130 We're going to the panel meeting, but for the answer, that's all. 1229 01:29:31,390 --> 01:29:33,370 Thank you. 1230 01:29:34,290 --> 01:29:40,350 What type of time would they apply to processes? 1231 01:29:40,770 --> 01:29:43,730 Is there a time one at a pretty days or? 1232 01:29:48,070 --> 01:29:52,150 I'm just a person who's got a set title in it and the city has to act on the application. 1233 01:29:52,610 --> 01:29:54,870 It's not like it's the only application where there's a 60-year-old. 1234 01:29:55,030 --> 01:29:57,510 That might be a city can't drive a city to it. 1235 01:29:57,590 --> 01:29:59,970 Once applying for license, a lot of it would probably depend. 1236 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:12,320 The background check and whether that's in the state or out of the state, and I don't know it, city clerk or in the city minister have a sense of how long it takes to say who are practical standpoint and can you get an application? 1237 01:30:13,500 --> 01:30:23,180 I would probably say the process is quickly as possible. We try to, if an application were to come into my, let's say we were trying to get a process in prepared for the next council agenda. 1238 01:30:23,180 --> 01:30:30,120 And we took a good look at, you know, when that is, there's certain ones that come back to come in two days before the last council meeting, usually we can't get all that back work. 1239 01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:39,100 I'm going to try to process some of this as quickly as possible. We're not typically sitting on them for two weeks or kind of, you know, as quickly as they can turn them over, we can turn them over. 1240 01:30:39,380 --> 01:30:49,820 I guess we use a mask to, you know, for the therapists themselves that are looking to start a job and be tough to have to wait a month through, you know, without an income or whatnot. 1241 01:30:49,820 --> 01:31:00,840 I do have a couple questions, but we reach out to the folks that have already, we have a couple 1242 01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:05,480 of legitimate businesses here doing this side, and do they have any comments right? 1243 01:31:05,980 --> 01:31:07,920 Feedback on any of this at all or? 1244 01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:13,240 Yeah, they will provide it with the proposed changes as well as the client, on Instagram, 1245 01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:18,060 and we want business to go back to us with our thoughts and I'm sure they will be there. 1246 01:31:18,060 --> 01:31:21,240 Okay, so they're moving forward against their... 1247 01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,120 So it's a clear by that. 1248 01:31:23,260 --> 01:31:29,060 That reach occurred after kind of the original council work session and broader discussion. 1249 01:31:29,420 --> 01:31:33,180 So we'll get a larger review of the post-urvision and ordinance. 1250 01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:39,600 And a lot of the highlights related to things such as the age of people working at the business, 1251 01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:43,800 in particular, was a salon that wanted some clarification about the salon, 1252 01:31:43,980 --> 01:31:45,840 is this aspect versus the massage? 1253 01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:46,920 Is this aspect? 1254 01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:52,740 So, their partners were incorporated in the kind of a broader original ordinance review. 1255 01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:59,040 I don't believe any of the comments that I recall are implicated by what's being proposed here. 1256 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:01,740 And then the second question I'm going to be the chief speaker. 1257 01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:06,240 I mean, you started to help a couple of you over in any way. 1258 01:32:07,540 --> 01:32:08,040 That helps. 1259 01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:12,360 Yeah, definitely helps from a law enforcement standpoint. 1260 01:32:12,940 --> 01:32:15,160 I mean, it certainly seems like a common sense thing. 1261 01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:18,440 I just want to make sure that everybody is on board with it. 1262 01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:19,240 Yeah, yep. 1263 01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:21,080 It's definitely a positive change. 1264 01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:24,180 Just like with any city policies or ordinances, 1265 01:32:24,380 --> 01:32:27,600 they need to be reviewed every so often. 1266 01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:31,240 You know, every couple of years in this one, definitely need to be updated. 1267 01:32:31,940 --> 01:32:34,140 And I think city attorney to the excellent job. 1268 01:32:34,860 --> 01:32:35,960 Those are your questions I had. 1269 01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:36,800 Thank you. 1270 01:32:39,050 --> 01:32:40,390 One last question for me, I guess, 1271 01:32:40,470 --> 01:32:43,730 and just trying to expedite the process too. 1272 01:32:44,550 --> 01:32:53,390 If somebody means all the requirements in the city just issued them license, why does that have to come back through the council? 1273 01:32:54,050 --> 01:32:58,570 It seems like an extra step that really is a necessary. 1274 01:32:58,930 --> 01:33:02,870 If they're qualified, they need all staff requirements. 1275 01:33:04,370 --> 01:33:06,990 Why can't we just issue an license so we can start the next day. 1276 01:33:07,110 --> 01:33:08,730 You need to see our challenge you. 1277 01:33:09,370 --> 01:33:09,810 What's that? 1278 01:33:09,810 --> 01:33:11,330 You look at see on our shell issue basis. 1279 01:33:13,870 --> 01:33:16,550 Yeah, I would like to at least have that discussion. 1280 01:33:16,870 --> 01:33:22,250 I mean there's a lot of legitimate people working in that business 1281 01:33:22,910 --> 01:33:26,230 and why should we delay them for our next council meeting 1282 01:33:26,230 --> 01:33:28,970 which could be a couple of weeks. 1283 01:33:30,310 --> 01:33:31,410 We can't do it on a workshop. 1284 01:33:32,070 --> 01:33:34,550 So, you know, it could be a big gap sometimes. 1285 01:33:35,330 --> 01:33:37,410 Charlie, if I can speak to that kind of question, 1286 01:33:37,550 --> 01:33:40,610 I think the issue here is that under state statute 1287 01:33:40,610 --> 01:33:43,310 Well, the quick is authorized to issue a number of licenses, 1288 01:33:43,670 --> 01:33:45,410 they need to be kind of the straightforward one 1289 01:33:45,410 --> 01:33:47,710 where if you need all of the requirements, 1290 01:33:47,910 --> 01:33:49,490 such as a dog license or something, 1291 01:33:49,590 --> 01:33:51,690 like that, then the license shall issue. 1292 01:33:51,890 --> 01:33:53,970 So there's no kind of discretionary component. 1293 01:33:54,490 --> 01:33:56,110 The challenge here in why this license 1294 01:33:56,110 --> 01:33:58,950 solve in the category of liquor licenses 1295 01:33:58,950 --> 01:34:00,910 that is to maximize the systems of the household 1296 01:34:00,910 --> 01:34:02,110 supposed to improve the net. 1297 01:34:02,150 --> 01:34:04,590 You have this criteria, for example, 1298 01:34:04,970 --> 01:34:07,090 if they don't have any prior prohibition 1299 01:34:07,090 --> 01:34:08,570 that would disqual, I have to require 1300 01:34:08,570 --> 01:34:13,490 exercise of discretion, and the council really can't validate the exercise of its discretion 1301 01:34:13,490 --> 01:34:14,210 to staff. 1302 01:34:14,610 --> 01:34:17,390 So that's a determination to council needs to make. 1303 01:34:18,010 --> 01:34:22,570 And again, I don't see any of the things perfect on sort of a clear straight forward business 1304 01:34:22,570 --> 01:34:25,070 life in the application, why there would be a delay. 1305 01:34:25,450 --> 01:34:30,530 But it's more than a matter of when you get into these criteria that indicate discretion 1306 01:34:30,530 --> 01:34:35,730 or require the council to exercise its authority, where the council needs to be making 1307 01:34:35,730 --> 01:34:40,310 decision as opposed to the work, which is why the process was verified the way it was. 1308 01:34:41,890 --> 01:34:47,750 And there's no ability to enter a interim or a two week license or anything by staff, 1309 01:34:48,390 --> 01:34:49,770 but it has to go through console. 1310 01:34:51,210 --> 01:34:54,630 I'm not sure if I'm not sure of how that process would work. 1311 01:34:54,770 --> 01:34:59,850 I think the bigger challenge here is if you issue the license without really applying the criteria 1312 01:34:59,850 --> 01:35:01,630 and you're trying to re-boke it. 1313 01:35:01,830 --> 01:35:03,710 It makes more sense to just have it all done at once. 1314 01:35:03,710 --> 01:35:06,710 I clarify that for me, thank you. 1315 01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:12,560 I'll put a question. 1316 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:14,760 Any other questions? 1317 01:35:15,900 --> 01:35:20,140 I'll make a motion that we approve or make 675 as I'm ahead of the procedure. 1318 01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:24,360 All right. 1319 01:35:24,820 --> 01:35:26,660 We have a motion in a second. 1320 01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:27,840 Any further discussion? 1321 01:35:29,100 --> 01:35:30,300 You're in none of the rules in favour? 1322 01:35:30,660 --> 01:35:31,060 Hi. 1323 01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:32,360 The polls? 1324 01:35:33,460 --> 01:35:34,020 Motion carries. 1325 01:35:40,290 --> 01:35:40,850 7, 9. 1326 01:35:41,010 --> 01:35:42,050 You know I'm a common clerk? 1327 01:35:44,430 --> 01:35:49,970 I have a high recommendation for you tonight for the intermediate, intermediate accounting 1328 01:35:49,970 --> 01:35:51,050 clerk position. 1329 01:35:52,210 --> 01:35:57,870 We received over 30 applications for the open position, ran them through your ring 1330 01:35:57,870 --> 01:36:02,450 to candidates, ran through testing interviews, and after going through a whole process, 1331 01:36:02,930 --> 01:36:06,150 the decision was made to pursue the hiring of Abbey Bristol for the position. 1332 01:36:06,850 --> 01:36:11,630 Based on her performance in both the interview and testing process, we did do reference 1333 01:36:11,630 --> 01:36:14,610 checks with her positive and completed background check. 1334 01:36:14,730 --> 01:36:17,850 We did make a condition of that offer to add you for the position. 1335 01:36:18,490 --> 01:36:21,490 That offer is contingent on City Council approval. 1336 01:36:22,230 --> 01:36:26,550 Abby currently works for the City of Oakdale as a record technician, where she's involved 1337 01:36:26,550 --> 01:36:28,910 in scanning documents into laser speech. 1338 01:36:29,070 --> 01:36:34,290 She also does monthly and UN report, compilations, and assembly for the city. 1339 01:36:34,290 --> 01:36:40,810 and she also issues licenses for the city of Oakdale. 1340 01:36:41,510 --> 01:36:43,170 Prior to working for the city of Oakdale, 1341 01:36:43,310 --> 01:36:46,590 I'd be working as an office assistant with the College of San Sklastica 1342 01:36:46,590 --> 01:36:50,150 and as an office clerk for the Washington County Park Works Department. 1343 01:36:50,950 --> 01:36:55,330 If Abby is approved tonight, her anticipated start date is June 4th. 1344 01:36:55,530 --> 01:36:59,190 The recommendation before tonight is to approve the height of Adi Listo 1345 01:36:59,190 --> 01:37:05,650 So, as an intermediate accounting court position at the established grade position, which was grade 5, step 2, 1346 01:37:05,930 --> 01:37:08,910 every happy to answer any questions you have regarding the recommendation. 1347 01:37:10,450 --> 01:37:12,050 This is at full-time, four-year-old. 1348 01:37:12,130 --> 01:37:13,010 Correct, yes. 1349 01:37:20,550 --> 01:37:21,330 Some of you have questions? 1350 01:37:21,830 --> 01:37:22,310 No, I'm leaving. 1351 01:37:22,590 --> 01:37:24,510 Sounds of you, like you did your homework. 1352 01:37:27,310 --> 01:37:29,490 So, we had over 30 applicants, is it? 1353 01:37:31,210 --> 01:37:34,150 You're sure, according to this, she's certain to qualify for the job. 1354 01:37:34,810 --> 01:37:35,190 Mm. 1355 01:37:35,190 --> 01:37:44,150 I make a motion that we accept the recommendation by the staff to hire heavy restole, is that a pronounce it? 1356 01:37:45,390 --> 01:37:46,770 In the intermediate economy position. 1357 01:37:48,690 --> 01:37:52,190 At the established grade for the position grade five step two. 1358 01:37:52,910 --> 01:37:53,650 I'll select another one. 1359 01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:58,440 Any further discussion on that? 1360 01:37:58,740 --> 01:37:59,440 All those in favour? 1361 01:37:59,900 --> 01:38:00,340 Aye. 1362 01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:01,240 Aye. 1363 01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:02,660 What was the motion carries? 1364 01:38:02,660 --> 01:38:04,440 Welcome, maybe? 1365 01:38:10,420 --> 01:38:11,560 Getting down to the end. 1366 01:38:12,260 --> 01:38:16,040 Mayor City Council, and the packet is the results in the Ward Recognition, 1367 01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:19,100 better for the 2018 Street Paming Maintenance Project. 1368 01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,380 We did receive six bids. 1369 01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:24,040 A little bit was definitely more than engineers' estimates, 1370 01:38:24,380 --> 01:38:27,220 so that was good and we'll be able to add some money on feed to the project. 1371 01:38:29,730 --> 01:38:33,990 Tonight we're recommending, I see council Ward of Project 1372 01:38:33,990 --> 01:38:37,470 to an A3 corporation in the amounts of 6,078,000, 1373 01:38:37,470 --> 01:38:38,830 $5.50. 1374 01:38:41,230 --> 01:38:43,810 Why, what was your estimate on this? 1375 01:38:43,810 --> 01:38:46,250 I was $700. 1376 01:38:47,850 --> 01:38:48,230 Okay. 1377 01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,760 That's not very far off for different engineers estimate. 1378 01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:56,100 No, I don't know about it. 1379 01:38:56,260 --> 01:38:56,740 No, I don't know. 1380 01:38:56,860 --> 01:38:57,900 The second amount was close. 1381 01:38:58,220 --> 01:38:58,840 This is a bit to see. 1382 01:38:59,700 --> 01:39:00,440 A lot of hand. 1383 01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:01,400 That's a bit to see. 1384 01:39:01,660 --> 01:39:02,680 We got a lot of hand contact. 1385 01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:03,440 We're doing this. 1386 01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:06,540 So that was some higher pricing there. 1387 01:39:06,540 --> 01:39:10,320 And typically, with obviously the current curve genes, 1388 01:39:13,620 --> 01:39:17,240 we actually have, obviously, contingent of approval tonight. 1389 01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,400 We have the pre-concept for this already for Thursday. 1390 01:39:20,440 --> 01:39:22,260 I've made a motion that wakes up the bid by 1391 01:39:22,260 --> 01:39:27,440 an I-Five Requal Corporation for $678,485 and 50 cents 1392 01:39:27,440 --> 01:39:30,660 as per Ryan Goodman's estimate. 1393 01:39:31,780 --> 01:39:32,360 Now, second. 1394 01:39:33,500 --> 01:39:35,100 I don't know any further discussion. 1395 01:39:38,180 --> 01:39:38,780 I'll vote in favour. 1396 01:39:38,780 --> 01:39:39,500 Hi. 1397 01:39:40,700 --> 01:39:40,960 Both. 1398 01:39:41,500 --> 01:39:42,140 Motion carries. 1399 01:39:44,700 --> 01:39:45,940 Now, let's see if that's the school. 1400 01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:51,500 Next project in your agenda, obviously we had the bid opening a long time ago, but 1401 01:39:51,500 --> 01:39:55,140 you have to go through the formal process of federal approval, but before you can award 1402 01:39:55,140 --> 01:39:55,460 it. 1403 01:39:55,720 --> 01:40:01,080 So, this bid's the bid's were reviewed from the Office of Civil Rights, because a little 1404 01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:04,100 bit didn't need a disadvantage, business enterprise participation goal. 1405 01:40:04,140 --> 01:40:07,100 That's the benefit of the federal funding that I'll check that out. 1406 01:40:07,100 --> 01:40:10,900 and now we're basically being given approval to award the contract. 1407 01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:17,060 So, I was better, I was also contracting corporate in the amount of P-117,000 P-111, 1408 01:40:17,140 --> 01:40:18,320 and I was in 39 cents. 1409 01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:23,080 As a recommendation for award for the 2018 Safety Officer School Pedestrian Connection Improvements. 1410 01:40:23,900 --> 01:40:25,620 There is a location map in there. 1411 01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:31,120 So, some of you guys wanted to part of when the grant was actually received three years ago. 1412 01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,260 So, that's how long these grants have been applied for. 1413 01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:42,300 And it's probably being funded with the grants and instructions they needed a lot, please. 1414 01:40:42,780 --> 01:40:44,740 Is this a fully funded grant? 1415 01:40:45,340 --> 01:40:46,140 It's at 820. 1416 01:40:55,140 --> 01:40:56,760 I don't know how we could beat it up any different. 1417 01:40:57,100 --> 01:40:57,500 No, it is. 1418 01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,600 So I'll make the motion that we, more of the contract, 1419 01:41:00,780 --> 01:41:05,020 if this will contract, you can cooperate it to the amount of 817,000, 1420 01:41:05,540 --> 01:41:07,460 831 dollars in 39 cents. 1421 01:41:08,580 --> 01:41:08,680 Okay. 1422 01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:12,020 All right. 1423 01:41:12,020 --> 01:41:18,940 We have a motion, we have a second, and we put a discussion here and then, all those 1424 01:41:18,940 --> 01:41:19,380 of favor? 1425 01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:20,140 Hi. 1426 01:41:21,260 --> 01:41:21,700 Opposed? 1427 01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:23,260 Motion carries. 1428 01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:24,540 Thank you, Ryan. 1429 01:41:29,810 --> 01:41:35,610 The 2017-2018 list station improvements, including the crowd here, wait for this one. 1430 01:41:36,670 --> 01:41:38,230 Ryan, do you want to take a Zoom this? 1431 01:41:38,730 --> 01:41:43,130 I guess before we move in any action, I just want to ask a forward if there's any questions 1432 01:41:43,130 --> 01:41:44,510 that concerns that did not address. 1433 01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:51,580 I'll just quick summary so if I didn't hit on in something, I'll pre-to come up. 1434 01:41:52,500 --> 01:41:58,020 I won't talk about porcelain, it's a full recon, right on with an incitin city right away. 1435 01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:00,940 Actually brings a little closer to the city road in that area. 1436 01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:09,920 12T serves approximately 15 homes and three homes on the north and the rest of the house, 1437 01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:16,540 the south, the gravity fed and coming to one manhole, and this chart is into a listation 1438 01:42:16,540 --> 01:42:24,560 12T, which the force main goes northward, parallel with existing gravity, and is in between 1439 01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:28,240 the houses and some garages headed north and before it tails back to North Shore. 1440 01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:34,840 Skope of the word would relocate the force main, straight out to North Shore trail from the 1441 01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:39,720 existing cities right away with the listation rise within, and then run parallel with 1442 01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:45,560 roadway up to the man hall, so the new relocated out of this garage area. This work does not 1443 01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:52,960 include any work to the gravity line or the private services that are within. Listation itself 1444 01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:59,280 is a full recon inside, existing structure, kind of what's left will still be there, but a retrofitted 1445 01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:08,700 with a fiberglass insert, unimpumps control panel that will be replaced. It will be now set up for 1446 01:43:08,700 --> 01:43:15,280 bypass humbling ability to no plug-in and generator if we did lose power right now it doesn't 1447 01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:22,520 have all that. So that's kind of the highlights of the project. I think I have one 1448 01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:30,060 property owner to the south of the structure just located in 9519. Is there one or two to the 1449 01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,060 You're in a way north end of it. 1450 01:43:38,380 --> 01:43:39,540 I'm going to add work costs. 1451 01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:45,200 So that course may not even be a band in place. 1452 01:43:48,540 --> 01:43:52,200 There would be some removal of replacement of the by-tune in the surface. 1453 01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:55,060 I met her from on the top of the unit. 1454 01:43:55,820 --> 01:43:57,520 He mentioned it went all the way down the lake. 1455 01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:00,060 Our scope of work doesn't go all the way down the lake. 1456 01:44:02,140 --> 01:44:06,200 So, the scope of the work and the goal is to pass the 1457 01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:10,800 listation area and then the manual, but we're all the pipes coming through. 1458 01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:14,740 And that's kind of where we're going to be removed in place too, so. 1459 01:44:18,650 --> 01:44:22,230 Recently, I have some of these gentlemen here, because they've experienced the backup 1460 01:44:22,230 --> 01:44:25,790 to ignore, for sure, what was causing those backups was a power outage. 1461 01:44:25,790 --> 01:44:32,310 I and I just kind of curious if this is going to resolve an adequate pumping as Chris 1462 01:44:32,990 --> 01:44:37,770 just could give them a piece of mind when we're addressing it one of the multiple issues 1463 01:44:37,770 --> 01:44:39,090 that cause of that coast. 1464 01:44:39,370 --> 01:44:42,790 I don't have all the history, Dave Adams has, and I wish he was here, but we got a pretty 1465 01:44:42,790 --> 01:44:43,770 big water main break. 1466 01:44:43,970 --> 01:44:45,290 I'm 61 right now. 1467 01:44:47,570 --> 01:44:51,550 I can't answer that, but if we're not comfortable moving forward, my recommendation 1468 01:44:51,550 --> 01:44:55,630 to be the table is action item to the next councilman, so that information could be 1469 01:44:55,630 --> 01:44:58,110 other than presented, otherwise. 1470 01:45:00,020 --> 01:45:12,980 Other question I was there after this is there left over mornings where if I and I were an issue that that is something that we could need to pursue yet on this project, sliplining of the grieving. 1471 01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:18,020 We would do that with a separate contract because we would then target specifically lining companies. 1472 01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:25,140 Okay. So right now you're just going to get a mark of the past, the paperwork, where in one of my updates later, 1473 01:45:25,140 --> 01:45:27,920 And I was going to talk about the competitive 1474 01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:32,820 video thresholds that changed as a fact of August 1st. 1475 01:45:33,100 --> 01:45:36,080 We can now grow up for quotes up to 175,000 versus 1476 01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:38,480 100,000 we've been out of 10 years. 1477 01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:40,760 Certainly, you could get a good line in your project 1478 01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:42,440 with 100,000 and 75,000. 1479 01:45:42,740 --> 01:45:45,720 What had to hold up any progress just 1480 01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:48,360 through the answering a question or two that 1481 01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:49,760 wouldn't need to be factored in this project? 1482 01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:52,280 I don't think we'd get favorable pricing through this 1483 01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:54,940 contractor for lineing because you're going to instantly 1484 01:45:54,940 --> 01:45:59,020 pay a markup because this contractor doesn't do anything like that. 1485 01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:02,960 Well, I think they've been doing a great job so far. 1486 01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:08,080 I mean, I haven't heard one complaint other than, you know, a couple of questions, 1487 01:46:08,300 --> 01:46:11,100 why it was taken so long to get the one over here. 1488 01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:15,600 It's 60, obviously, is the most visible area of all the projects. 1489 01:46:15,780 --> 01:46:19,720 And that's where they had all the issues because they were going really well. 1490 01:46:19,980 --> 01:46:23,660 And then they hit that two-week hold spill and everything got frozen in the ground. 1491 01:46:23,660 --> 01:46:26,980 they couldn't get it out. And then they tried pulling stuff out of the ground and they're 1492 01:46:26,980 --> 01:46:31,640 kept breaking equipment. Finally they said, we gotta let it sit, come back and 1493 01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:36,120 spring, right? Yeah. So otherwise everything else has gone really well. 1494 01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:40,920 I remember watching Hank on that thing over there. I think you're going to break it back over 1495 01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:45,900 right now. It was just crazy. Anyway, all right. You're, oh I'm sorry. I just, you 1496 01:46:45,900 --> 01:46:50,220 know, for the property owners, do you have any concerns with like the abandoned pipes in 1497 01:46:50,220 --> 01:46:51,740 ground anything like that. 1498 01:46:54,060 --> 01:46:57,460 And that would be a benefit to the start of the sentence, sir. 1499 01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:02,100 Because it sounds like everything's going to be farther away from the houses 1500 01:47:02,100 --> 01:47:03,040 than they were before. 1501 01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:07,380 Well, that could be a problem too, because is there going to be the same amount 1502 01:47:07,380 --> 01:47:07,940 of retention? 1503 01:47:08,100 --> 01:47:09,640 Because that is part of the problem. 1504 01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,620 There's a two making a report that's set around the lake. 1505 01:47:13,820 --> 01:47:17,220 Some houses play in a bunch of 10 minutes or a little of 10 minutes. 1506 01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:24,000 I was a lot longer, so if you're moving around farther up to this, it's still at half of the same retention capacity. 1507 01:47:27,670 --> 01:47:30,490 The capacity of the listation is not being increased. 1508 01:47:31,130 --> 01:47:37,250 Nor could you increase this unless you completely took out the existing structure and dropped a big wet well. 1509 01:47:37,650 --> 01:47:40,210 Oh, and that funds are all about what it increases. 1510 01:47:41,370 --> 01:47:43,150 No, the station stays as is. 1511 01:47:43,350 --> 01:47:45,350 The force main is being relocated. 1512 01:47:46,630 --> 01:47:48,470 Donna, can you pull up the GIS? 1513 01:47:49,370 --> 01:47:51,250 Yeah, I don't think we could do this project 1514 01:47:51,250 --> 01:47:54,070 if we had to move the lift station to another location 1515 01:47:54,630 --> 01:47:55,910 a much more expensive. 1516 01:47:56,130 --> 01:47:59,750 If we move the lift station, then we either have to extend gravity pipe 1517 01:47:59,750 --> 01:48:01,470 or relocate gravity pipe. 1518 01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,920 Because the lift station is placed at the low point of gravity pipe 1519 01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:07,880 coming from two directions. 1520 01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:10,140 Once we pull up the GIS, 1521 01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:13,040 I think it'll help a lot, 1522 01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:20,220 Because without knowing what you're looking at it, it's pretty. 1523 01:48:24,340 --> 01:48:26,360 Can we tap him in? 1524 01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:27,360 Plug in. 1525 01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:27,880 More? 1526 01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:29,260 No, it's all right. 1527 01:48:29,580 --> 01:48:29,960 Fix me. 1528 01:48:30,180 --> 01:48:31,480 I can see it fine. 1529 01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:32,560 We're talking about it. 1530 01:48:38,300 --> 01:48:39,140 Well, it's a 95. 1531 01:48:39,860 --> 01:48:40,400 Perfect. 1532 01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:45,020 So the listation is in yellow, yellow, box. 1533 01:48:45,980 --> 01:48:46,900 And gravity comes. 1534 01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:48,280 The green pipe is gravity. 1535 01:48:48,460 --> 01:48:51,220 So gravity comes in the north to the listation to the south. 1536 01:48:51,220 --> 01:48:54,620 And then it also picks up several homes from the south. 1537 01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:58,660 So that green circle over the yellow box 1538 01:48:58,660 --> 01:49:02,020 is the low point in the gravity sensory sewer line. 1539 01:49:02,340 --> 01:49:03,220 So it comes there. 1540 01:49:03,460 --> 01:49:05,600 And then there's a very short pipe segment 1541 01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:07,240 going to the east into the lift station. 1542 01:49:08,440 --> 01:49:12,080 When that lift station needs to pump out, right? 1543 01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:15,400 Now it pumps up where the yellow line is parallel with the 1544 01:49:18,620 --> 01:49:24,980 That force main would be relocated out to North Shore Trail straight out, you know, right 1545 01:49:24,980 --> 01:49:26,020 at the lift station. 1546 01:49:26,420 --> 01:49:32,160 We will pipe the line straight out to North Shore Trail and turn and go parallel with the other 1547 01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:33,400 force main there. 1548 01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,780 That will all be directly drilled to get to the next manual. 1549 01:49:42,170 --> 01:49:43,410 Well, I think you can get it right now, 1550 01:49:47,460 --> 01:49:49,740 because remember we're using the existing steel casing 1551 01:49:49,740 --> 01:49:54,240 that's there, and we're going to drop a fiberglass insert into the structure. 1552 01:49:55,220 --> 01:49:59,140 So with the two, we have a child that we have in the gym, 1553 01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:01,500 the gym, we have a six-day and a half-time, 1554 01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:04,760 like we're going to come up to the two houses, 1555 01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:07,220 and then play them a little bit to play it, 1556 01:50:07,220 --> 01:50:09,180 and play it from the beginning, but we get it out on the board. 1557 01:50:11,340 --> 01:50:12,980 Yeah. Yeah. 1558 01:50:14,060 --> 01:50:17,420 So the listation is, I would say, 1559 01:50:17,780 --> 01:50:21,260 there's that manual is probably 20 feet west of the listation, 1560 01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:23,140 even if they look like they're on top of each other here. 1561 01:50:23,140 --> 01:50:33,060 just a scale, right? And I would say the pavement goes another 15 feet west. So that way 1562 01:50:33,060 --> 01:50:37,220 it truck it back all the way up down there and get into these mammals that they had to. 1563 01:50:38,440 --> 01:50:39,500 I don't think about me. 1564 01:50:45,540 --> 01:50:49,340 In case they had to work out in their wells and they had to work out in their 1565 01:50:49,340 --> 01:50:49,340 way. 1566 01:50:53,060 --> 01:50:55,840 So that's kind of a, I guess, a different issue than. 1567 01:50:55,840 --> 01:51:02,940 I mean, yeah, they'll be adequate room on the property to, you know, for nine streets. 1568 01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:05,080 We're not shrinking any of the area. 1569 01:51:06,380 --> 01:51:09,220 That what you're concerned about. 1570 01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:14,200 Yeah, they want space to be a vehicle to get through there. 1571 01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:17,560 And they stay at the same as it is now. 1572 01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:24,660 Yeah, so we're removing and replacing the city access down to the station. 1573 01:51:24,660 --> 01:51:25,020 I 1574 01:51:28,260 --> 01:51:29,260 couldn't show you my phone. 1575 01:51:29,300 --> 01:51:32,380 But my book, no, it isn't really going to look any different when it's done. 1576 01:51:33,460 --> 01:51:40,360 Other than just a newer box payment going down to it because we'll have to rip that out to get the 1577 01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:43,900 force made back out to North Shore trail before they will set up direction and drilling 1578 01:51:43,900 --> 01:51:46,660 out on North Shore and then drill to the north. 1579 01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:50,560 Do you know how many times a day this lift station runs? 1580 01:51:51,340 --> 01:51:52,300 I don't know that often. 1581 01:51:56,960 --> 01:52:00,500 And you said it will be ready to go to the generator access. 1582 01:52:00,500 --> 01:52:09,500 You know, all the lift stations have that capability now after the project, or some of them actually, the main ones, 1583 01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:12,880 reports on a permanent generator atom. 1584 01:52:16,260 --> 01:52:26,100 And the force mean itself wouldn't, I mean, the flooding that they're talking about would come from the gravity side of the sewer system, not the force main side. 1585 01:52:26,740 --> 01:52:26,900 Yeah. 1586 01:52:26,900 --> 01:52:32,780 The force means all pressure, so obviously if we get a leak, just one little leak in the 1587 01:52:32,780 --> 01:52:38,120 force man, then we got to go fix that because you lose the pressure to push the 1588 01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:39,340 south down the line. 1589 01:52:40,860 --> 01:52:45,620 Now the sanitary sewer, you probably got some cracks in the joints, you know, as a typical 1590 01:52:45,620 --> 01:52:50,640 with our sewer system, especially this age of sewer, all the services that are connected and 1591 01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:55,260 into the House, they probably had cracks in their own service lines too, so. 1592 01:52:56,980 --> 01:53:00,000 I have been explaining to all of the problems that occur 1593 01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:01,700 if you have a time where you're done. 1594 01:53:02,700 --> 01:53:04,520 I think you're briefly good. 1595 01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:07,400 The 1596 01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:18,720 problem is occurring not when the lift station is working. 1597 01:53:19,440 --> 01:53:21,280 If everything is working, it's working fine. 1598 01:53:21,500 --> 01:53:25,460 In 2006, they were going to add two developments on to it. 1599 01:53:25,460 --> 01:53:33,380 The problem happens if one of two things happen if there's an electrical failure or somewhere 1600 01:53:33,380 --> 01:53:38,600 down, line from this one, there's the failure and one of the stations. 1601 01:53:40,420 --> 01:53:44,120 At that point, it all depends on how long it takes somebody to get it fixed. 1602 01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:52,920 Because not so much if there's an electrical failure, although living on the lake, people can go down and 1603 01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:58,580 bring buckets of water up to flesh to toilets, but downline is where the problem is. 1604 01:53:59,700 --> 01:54:05,320 And if it takes a long time, this station, because all of the houses in that area still 1605 01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:09,420 have electrical power, they're still running everything into this station. 1606 01:54:11,440 --> 01:54:17,000 And like I say, 2008 was the last time that this happened more or earlier, it's about 10 years 1607 01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:26,160 now right now. And the public works department does a fantastic job. They're the ones that 1608 01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:33,720 probably have kept more of these things from happening. But at that time, they kind of 1609 01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:40,340 forgot about us. They were pumping out of the 13 and they were pumping out of 11. 1610 01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:46,580 But for 1611 01:54:46,580 --> 01:54:50,880 We happen to have a little bypass there, so we weren't hit as bad. 1612 01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:56,460 The neighbors stood over down, had a backflow valve, which failed, and it flooded out 1613 01:54:56,460 --> 01:54:59,640 their lower level, which goes through the house and down to the lake. 1614 01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:04,080 So that's where the problem was, and that's why I was asking about retention. 1615 01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:08,880 Can you tell me, perhaps, how long the corridor was out at that point? 1616 01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:15,240 We were gone that when we got home, the neighbor said that they had been flooded out, and 1617 01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:20,000 We had some residuals, like I said, ours can be into the bathtub of the toilet. 1618 01:55:20,500 --> 01:55:24,080 We had a little residuals in there, but for the most part, ours worked. 1619 01:55:25,100 --> 01:55:26,460 You said it happened in 2008? 1620 01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:28,580 2008, memorial digging. 1621 01:55:29,980 --> 01:55:32,440 So we're just kind of talking about that. 1622 01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:41,440 Obviously public works has made a lot of changes since 2008, and has a lot of additional equipment to deal with the situations that are still ongoing. 1623 01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:49,200 losing power to our listations is not uncommon and that's why the promotion of the generators 1624 01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:55,520 and portable generators that they now have on their system is help significantly to reduce 1625 01:55:55,520 --> 01:56:01,220 that time when they're not able to keep up with pumping stuff when we lose power. 1626 01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:05,340 You know, just though in the last two years, the coming times of last public works to go 1627 01:56:05,340 --> 01:56:07,940 deal with in a situation because we've lost power. 1628 01:56:09,260 --> 01:56:14,080 Now they'll have the ability to put a portable generator there and hook it up and pump it 1629 01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:18,140 while they can go to you with other stuff instead of having it with a back truck and suck it 1630 01:56:18,140 --> 01:56:20,000 all out and then go haul somewhere and dump it. 1631 01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:25,980 Maybe to the next listation that actually has power and town dump it in there and then run back. 1632 01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,940 Now they can just set a portable generator up there to deal with it. 1633 01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:35,280 If the problem was beyond that, where is it going to be pumped to? 1634 01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:42,160 That's part of the strategy public works is developed, well, I mean, there probably wasn't much of a plan in 2008. 1635 01:56:43,300 --> 01:56:44,140 Let's be honest. 1636 01:56:44,820 --> 01:56:48,560 Well, there's, well, I've just shy of 50 listings in town, 46. 1637 01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:53,120 So, I mean, that's an astronomical number to be tackled. 1638 01:56:54,160 --> 01:57:00,480 So, my understanding is there's nothing in this project that's going to prohibit future solving these issues. 1639 01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:03,540 If anything is going to set you up, you have generator access. 1640 01:57:03,540 --> 01:57:05,520 easier to get a generator to it, correct? 1641 01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:09,660 So the government generators can get down to you guys faster there. 1642 01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:13,560 Well, a generator is only going to help if there's something for it. 1643 01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:16,280 What's some place for that to be pumped to? 1644 01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:22,960 What I'm talking about is say, lift station 11 is down. 1645 01:57:24,020 --> 01:57:27,260 You can't put a generator on there to pump it down to that. 1646 01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:30,240 Because there's nowhere to go. 1647 01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:34,040 There's obviously a series, he's on the way into the series of illustrations. 1648 01:57:35,420 --> 01:57:38,180 And with our awesome improvements that have happened since 2008, 1649 01:57:38,660 --> 01:57:41,480 have put some generators on some of those going around this north side of Lake, 1650 01:57:41,820 --> 01:57:45,060 because everything here pumps up north comes all the way back. 1651 01:57:45,860 --> 01:57:49,640 Tassakwa until it gets to the one main station that comes then south underneath the Lake. 1652 01:57:51,500 --> 01:57:55,760 So since 2008, nine years have been some improvements that have included generators, 1653 01:57:55,760 --> 01:58:06,740 But, you know, public works is looked at this and studied how they're going to strategically place this stuff and, you know, they've got that incorporated in this big project, right? 1654 01:58:06,740 --> 01:58:14,780 And in 2022, planning to come with another project like we've talked about on the CIP planning, and that'll include some more generator work as well. 1655 01:58:15,420 --> 01:58:19,720 So, they made a huge steps on how to deal with emergency situations. 1656 01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:20,420 I agree. 1657 01:58:20,420 --> 01:58:24,480 We're not going to change the power of our attention to Excel does something differently, 1658 01:58:25,780 --> 01:58:29,280 but we are way more set up in public works that I think is the view of these situations 1659 01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:30,460 and unfaster. 1660 01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:38,980 Well, and the controls have their own telemetry, and there's way more technology in the control 1661 01:58:38,980 --> 01:58:39,480 panels. 1662 01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:43,240 Some of these control panels out here and they came to touch them and they're getting shot. 1663 01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:44,780 Standardizing it. 1664 01:58:44,940 --> 01:58:46,580 Everything's right now sitting to the phones. 1665 01:58:47,420 --> 01:58:48,620 2008 you didn't have that. 1666 01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:49,120 I agree. 1667 01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:51,100 But you're talking about electric failure. 1668 01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:54,000 I'm talking about what up for there is a pipe that breaks. 1669 01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:56,360 You can't pump it through that area. 1670 01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:58,220 So it's back in our area. 1671 01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:01,180 And the power is still in our area. 1672 01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:02,200 That's where it is. 1673 01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:04,720 The pipes were put in too shallow. 1674 01:59:06,820 --> 01:59:10,520 And so once there's no place for it to be pumped to, 1675 01:59:11,140 --> 01:59:13,400 then it has to have plenty of retention. 1676 01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:22,080 And otherwise, if the repair isn't made further down, it doesn't matter how much electricity, 1677 01:59:22,140 --> 01:59:27,720 how much backup electricity, how many generators you have, there's no word to have a pump 1678 01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:28,040 to. 1679 01:59:28,580 --> 01:59:30,420 And that's what happened one time also. 1680 01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:35,680 I think everybody's, everybody that's on the system was in that same scenario. 1681 01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:38,640 There is no plan B if it's a pipe breaks. 1682 01:59:39,100 --> 01:59:41,700 Well, yeah, there actually is. 1683 01:59:41,700 --> 01:59:47,660 They do come, like you were talking to, they come to the lift stations and they pump out. 1684 01:59:48,020 --> 01:59:48,720 Right, they have to pump out. 1685 01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:49,480 And that's great. 1686 01:59:49,660 --> 01:59:51,760 And that's what happened in 2008. 1687 01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:53,780 They forgot about us. 1688 01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:55,680 So yeah, I think so. 1689 01:59:55,940 --> 01:59:59,900 But I think the crew does a fantastic job as long as they're up to date. 1690 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,560 And what are the main problems, aren't? 1691 02:00:02,740 --> 02:00:07,580 Well, this should improve that too. So, it should reduce those potentials anyway. 1692 02:00:10,620 --> 02:00:13,700 Well, the warnings are quicker. They know about it soon. 1693 02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:22,060 You know? So, there can be more done. I don't see this as a roadblock to anything. 1694 02:00:22,860 --> 02:00:27,180 That could be done down the future. Typically, more storage is inadequate, I think, I don't agree. 1695 02:00:27,180 --> 02:00:29,660 to put a listation in, because you only go down so far anyway. 1696 02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:32,880 So you're not going any deeper with your wet well. 1697 02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:35,200 And you sounds like you guys don't want any wider. 1698 02:00:35,980 --> 02:00:38,180 So at this point in time, I think that would put the project. 1699 02:00:38,220 --> 02:00:40,580 Yeah, that's another key question, too. 1700 02:00:40,780 --> 02:00:43,700 Is if the access would be able to get down there 1701 02:00:43,700 --> 02:00:46,540 to work on our wells and to work on everything else, 1702 02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:50,280 if that is not going to block the access. 1703 02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:54,280 The plan showed to remove and replace the by-two 1704 02:00:54,280 --> 02:01:01,780 this in the same area. So the new pavement matches the existing pavement. Okay, but the 1705 02:01:01,780 --> 02:01:03,960 live station. Well, 1706 02:01:06,740 --> 02:01:10,040 if there's some way to get a drawing of where it's going to be in 1707 02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:16,600 how it's going to be a true would help. That's what I requested a couple of weeks ago. Thank you. 1708 02:01:16,600 --> 02:01:20,920 touch basically after the meeting and then you know if this is a provenance we 1709 02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:24,360 certainly can meet out in the field and put some states to show you 1710 02:01:24,360 --> 02:01:30,660 physically to work everything would be looking like thank you 1711 02:01:30,660 --> 02:01:35,560 all right thank you so look for a motion or any further discussion in the 1712 02:01:35,560 --> 02:01:37,980 live station change order 1713 02:01:37,980 --> 02:01:41,520 well right at first you were asking to have a table that you want to continue with 1714 02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:43,180 how do you want to 1715 02:01:43,180 --> 02:01:45,300 place a table that if we wanted for the 1716 02:01:45,300 --> 02:01:48,180 I just wanted to make sure I didn't have issues 1717 02:01:48,180 --> 02:01:51,280 leaving tonight's meeting that might have changed 1718 02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:52,800 something, but I think we've addressed them. 1719 02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:56,140 Find a different than that, so it's. 1720 02:01:56,140 --> 02:01:59,120 Find more building the garage, various stuff like that, 1721 02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:00,720 and then getting that plate on the garage. 1722 02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:02,400 I'm wondering if you see what's going to happen. 1723 02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:05,260 I don't do any planning either, because I'm on the door 1724 02:02:05,260 --> 02:02:06,820 that other than it's going to happen. 1725 02:02:09,400 --> 02:02:11,300 So I'm not in which place in your driveway 1726 02:02:11,300 --> 02:02:12,700 to the grab vehicle green here. 1727 02:02:12,700 --> 02:02:14,980 There are a lot of them in four, nine, five, just a little here. 1728 02:02:14,980 --> 02:02:22,280 They run parallel, and that one actually caused the horsepower, because more aim while 1729 02:02:22,280 --> 02:02:24,640 we came once stated, it's four and five degree. 1730 02:02:24,900 --> 02:02:29,600 And you want to build a garage with that white, air yellow, force main goes, right? 1731 02:02:30,020 --> 02:02:30,480 Yes. 1732 02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:33,680 Four of this existing now, and then we'll go on. 1733 02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:34,380 Yeah. 1734 02:02:34,820 --> 02:02:36,020 So all the years should I believe? 1735 02:02:36,320 --> 02:02:36,480 Yes. 1736 02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:37,820 Yep. 1737 02:02:38,460 --> 02:02:38,680 I don't know. 1738 02:02:38,860 --> 02:02:42,640 One thing is the one when I'll make a motion to approve the change order. 1739 02:02:44,980 --> 02:02:45,500 Over the second. 1740 02:02:45,500 --> 02:02:49,500 I'll second with a request that's there. 1741 02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:53,240 Coordinator members just have this done. 1742 02:02:53,600 --> 02:02:54,260 We'll do one. 1743 02:02:54,260 --> 02:02:57,700 We'll coordinate both stations and still have this week. 1744 02:03:00,380 --> 02:03:00,560 All right. 1745 02:03:00,780 --> 02:03:01,540 Motion a second. 1746 02:03:01,740 --> 02:03:02,540 Any further discussion? 1747 02:03:04,260 --> 02:03:04,620 Here you go. 1748 02:03:05,160 --> 02:03:05,780 All those in favor? 1749 02:03:06,580 --> 02:03:06,840 Aye. 1750 02:03:07,620 --> 02:03:08,040 Opposed? 1751 02:03:08,540 --> 02:03:09,200 Motion carries. 1752 02:03:13,130 --> 02:03:13,450 All right. 1753 02:03:14,730 --> 02:03:15,210 Seven am. 1754 02:03:15,250 --> 02:03:15,650 Eight side. 1755 02:03:15,770 --> 02:03:16,270 Who are the invoices? 1756 02:03:17,250 --> 02:03:17,710 Any question? 1757 02:03:17,890 --> 02:03:18,370 We have two of these. 1758 02:03:18,570 --> 02:03:19,310 I'll second. 1759 02:03:19,310 --> 02:03:22,730 I'll second. Motion is second. All those of favour? 1760 02:03:22,930 --> 02:03:26,070 Aye. Both abstain and one abstain. 1761 02:03:26,550 --> 02:03:30,430 Mr. Mayor, I make motion that we pay to when it supply invoices? 1762 02:03:30,770 --> 02:03:31,090 Second. 1763 02:03:33,010 --> 02:03:34,410 All those of favour? Aye. 1764 02:03:34,990 --> 02:03:35,130 Aye. 1765 02:03:35,130 --> 02:03:36,010 And one abstain. 1766 02:03:38,110 --> 02:03:39,390 All right, staff updates. 1767 02:03:41,190 --> 02:03:42,310 Donovan, let's start with you. 1768 02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:49,700 Well, the plan commission, 1769 02:03:49,700 --> 02:03:57,540 At the last meeting discussed the conference of right away ordinance, and they seek more information 1770 02:03:57,540 --> 02:03:59,380 more clarity around some of the issues. 1771 02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:08,940 As well as the facilities and residential areas, so I'll go back to my commission and have you take any questions? 1772 02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:17,400 Yeah. 1773 02:04:18,300 --> 02:04:20,900 I have nothing unless you have something for me. 1774 02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:23,440 Could the chief? 1775 02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:26,020 Is the third restriction still out? 1776 02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:36,600 We've got green up in the yards or green when you get into the cat-tellant swamp areas. 1777 02:04:36,940 --> 02:04:42,900 We're still fairly browned out of expect in the next couple of weeks as long as we get in rain. 1778 02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:46,580 Like we're getting today that the burn restrictions will come off. 1779 02:04:52,170 --> 02:04:55,350 Yeah, Mr. Mayor and City Council members, I have a few items for you here. 1780 02:04:55,350 --> 02:04:59,750 Washington County Sheriff's Office will be rolling out their new records management system called 1781 02:04:59,750 --> 02:05:09,070 Tritac on May 22nd. So it's been long awaited and we've had some extensive trial runs the past few months, 1782 02:05:09,070 --> 02:05:15,930 months which I've been going really well. And I know you'd be interested in this one training has been offered for 1783 02:05:15,930 --> 02:05:21,430 businesses that sell alcohol into back up products in Washington County. A flyer describing the training was 1784 02:05:21,430 --> 02:05:27,830 able to all businesses that sell tobacco and alcohol products on April 30th, and the training 1785 02:05:27,830 --> 02:05:31,170 is being provided by the Washington County Sheriff's Office in Washington County Department 1786 02:05:31,170 --> 02:05:36,810 of Public Health and Environment, and that training is going to occur in late May or early 1787 02:05:36,810 --> 02:05:37,510 June. 1788 02:05:38,230 --> 02:05:41,290 The training that's going to occur here in Forest Lake is going to be at the Headquarters 1789 02:05:41,290 --> 02:05:49,550 Service Center on May 21 from three to four PM in businesses and personnel are encouraged 1790 02:05:49,550 --> 02:05:57,610 to pre-register for that event, and there are other dates available in June in Cottage Grove 1791 02:05:57,610 --> 02:06:04,510 and Stillwater as well if they can't make that one. And then lastly, we're working the police department 1792 02:06:04,510 --> 02:06:08,730 is working hard along with Parks Department, Fire Department, Public Works to set up events where 1793 02:06:08,730 --> 02:06:13,830 police will be present, the summer, including Arts in the Park, Forest Lake Safety Camp, July 4, 1794 02:06:14,550 --> 02:06:18,150 celebration, and many other outdoor events as well, and we're all looking forward to that. 1795 02:06:19,550 --> 02:06:21,470 Do you have any questions for me? 1796 02:06:21,710 --> 02:06:27,790 The only question I have chief is the training programs are the those businesses being notified. 1797 02:06:28,850 --> 02:06:30,070 Yes, yep, by the way. 1798 02:06:30,670 --> 02:06:31,490 I'm sort of writing. 1799 02:06:32,590 --> 02:06:33,050 By letter. 1800 02:06:33,390 --> 02:06:34,310 Yes, yes, yes. 1801 02:06:34,550 --> 02:06:39,610 By letter they were mailed actually the flyers each business in all Washington County. 1802 02:06:40,570 --> 02:06:47,390 And for our purposes to every force lake business that sells tobacco and alcohol. 1803 02:06:48,670 --> 02:06:49,070 Thank you. 1804 02:06:49,070 --> 02:06:57,670 So if we had some issues with the ESACs earlier this year, and part of the requirements was to 1805 02:06:57,670 --> 02:07:06,270 implement some new software to verify ID, verify ages, do you know if that's been installed 1806 02:07:06,270 --> 02:07:07,070 at those business? 1807 02:07:07,570 --> 02:07:11,550 Bailey and I have, do you mind if I've revert to you because I know you reached out to 1808 02:07:11,550 --> 02:07:12,370 a couple of the businesses? 1809 02:07:13,790 --> 02:07:19,930 particular the ones that we had, some not compliance issues with this year. I did go into the businesses 1810 02:07:20,870 --> 02:07:28,370 but at the date that they were required to have them. They have them, not sure if they're using them, but they have them. 1811 02:07:29,210 --> 02:07:29,210 Okay. 1812 02:07:31,360 --> 02:07:37,140 Have we done any follow-up compliance checks at any of those? At this point we have not. 1813 02:07:37,140 --> 02:07:45,020 But just to let you know, you know, we really did see an abundance and increase of those 1814 02:07:45,580 --> 02:07:51,300 easings being confiscated by, you know, kids having them at schools and out in public and 1815 02:07:51,300 --> 02:07:52,140 things like that. 1816 02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:53,960 It seems like it's subsided a little bit. 1817 02:07:54,180 --> 02:07:58,560 We're still coming across them, but boy, I tell you a few months ago, it was much different. 1818 02:07:59,060 --> 02:08:06,040 So maybe something has happened positive, I don't know if it was the enforcement, the word 1819 02:08:06,040 --> 02:08:11,260 got out, but we're hoping that it continues that way and that trend continues through the summer. 1820 02:08:12,280 --> 02:08:12,380 All right. 1821 02:08:12,820 --> 02:08:13,240 Thank you. 1822 02:08:14,620 --> 02:08:16,160 Any further questions for the chief? 1823 02:08:18,730 --> 02:08:18,910 Bailey. 1824 02:08:19,590 --> 02:08:20,230 Nothing for me. 1825 02:08:20,470 --> 02:08:20,870 Thank you. 1826 02:08:21,610 --> 02:08:22,030 All right. 1827 02:08:22,270 --> 02:08:22,490 Dan? 1828 02:08:22,970 --> 02:08:23,930 A couple of quick updates. 1829 02:08:24,590 --> 02:08:29,230 First, you may see a couple of new faces in the front office staff. 1830 02:08:29,470 --> 02:08:31,190 We have some seasonal office systems. 1831 02:08:31,190 --> 02:08:34,690 We're going to be starting one start to believe next week and another one starts to be 1832 02:08:34,690 --> 02:08:36,890 after my Royal Day, plus they've had to be starting. 1833 02:08:37,030 --> 02:08:38,190 So there'll be some new staff up there. 1834 02:08:38,270 --> 02:08:39,410 A couple of the seasonals will be there 1835 02:08:39,410 --> 02:08:41,450 trying to help answer phones. 1836 02:08:41,810 --> 02:08:43,110 It's kind of direct counter traffic. 1837 02:08:44,010 --> 02:08:46,830 And they're also going to help with some of the communication 1838 02:08:46,830 --> 02:08:48,950 efforts that have just been lagging behind 1839 02:08:48,950 --> 02:08:51,270 as kind of shifted priorities recently. 1840 02:08:52,190 --> 02:08:53,810 So the communication apparatus we have 1841 02:08:53,810 --> 02:08:55,330 while one of the seasonals is actually looking 1842 02:08:55,330 --> 02:08:58,250 at potentially going into marketing and communication. 1843 02:08:58,530 --> 02:09:00,570 So we're kind of tailoring some nice projects 1844 02:09:00,570 --> 02:09:03,750 for her to take on as well. 1845 02:09:03,750 --> 02:09:09,090 A couple of, two Fridays ago, I attended the real estate land development 1846 02:09:09,090 --> 02:09:14,590 journals conference in spoke on a panel on land development was told 1847 02:09:14,590 --> 02:09:17,690 a bit of a pair of four questions and they asked me only one of the four or 1848 02:09:17,690 --> 02:09:20,970 three were completely out of left field so I had to do my best to add 1849 02:09:20,970 --> 02:09:24,410 lived as possible. I apparently didn't do too bad because a couple of 1850 02:09:24,410 --> 02:09:27,470 developers afterwards had come up and asked to kind of, they were wanted to 1851 02:09:27,470 --> 02:09:29,230 have some meetings to come out and just kind of take a look at four 1852 02:09:29,230 --> 02:09:33,130 like it's a lot of productive contact from aid at that conference. 1853 02:09:33,930 --> 02:09:37,490 There's a lot of, it was nice to hear from a developers perspective what they're looking 1854 02:09:37,490 --> 02:09:42,930 for in-land development on both the residential and the commercial side and kind of seeing 1855 02:09:43,610 --> 02:09:45,870 where they're focusing their efforts at this point. 1856 02:09:46,030 --> 02:09:48,730 So, a lot of good information was ahead of that conference. 1857 02:09:49,770 --> 02:09:54,670 Talk to the Mercer Group last week, he was working on financing the first draft of the position 1858 02:09:54,670 --> 02:09:57,110 description and job profile for the administrative 1859 02:09:57,110 --> 02:10:00,630 recruitment should hopefully have that ready to go for 1860 02:10:00,630 --> 02:10:02,990 council review at the council workshop next Monday. 1861 02:10:04,070 --> 02:10:07,150 It doesn't need to be formally approved so he's kind of looking at 1862 02:10:08,130 --> 02:10:10,610 put it out as part of the workshop if you have substantial changes you want 1863 02:10:10,610 --> 02:10:13,730 made to that like him know and find a finalized it so we can get that 1864 02:10:13,730 --> 02:10:19,550 recruitment those documents posted. On your radar screen as well we're 1865 02:10:19,550 --> 02:10:23,410 also kind of starting up kind of gearing out for budget season here so 1866 02:10:23,410 --> 02:10:28,070 of anything that's we're kind of wanting to kind of make sure that's, you know, in court 1867 02:10:28,070 --> 02:10:33,110 include included in the 2019 budget. I'm kind of piping it up at a future workshop 1868 02:10:33,110 --> 02:10:37,610 and that initial conversation, but the process is going to be fairly similar to what we did 1869 02:10:37,610 --> 02:10:41,930 in past years, where it's proud for it in August. The finance committee will see it in July 1870 02:10:41,930 --> 02:10:47,450 and we'll do the four meetings again in August. So I did meet with eight and last week 1871 02:10:47,450 --> 02:10:51,530 and kind of set a rough schedule to look at that release out the council as well. But kind of 1872 02:10:51,530 --> 02:10:56,550 As we kind of tee into that, probably asked for any kind of initial, you know, guidelines 1873 02:10:56,550 --> 02:11:00,390 for what you guys were looking for in a budget for 19, so we can start to kind of work 1874 02:11:00,390 --> 02:11:04,210 to get those budget or a child's productive as possible on an August. 1875 02:11:05,090 --> 02:11:10,250 And then, at the airport commission meeting, we also kind of kind of started a course for 1876 02:11:10,250 --> 02:11:14,010 the legal review of airport commission in City Council. 1877 02:11:14,010 --> 02:11:17,190 There's been a lot of kind of muddy in the water, which is possible for what? 1878 02:11:17,190 --> 02:11:28,210 So I'm going to work with Bridget here to kind of develop a work plan to find out what the source documents are for the upper commission to kind of see how that group functions and contacts with city council to kind of say 1879 02:11:28,210 --> 02:11:34,290 If least agreements come forward, what is the proper path for all of that. So everybody's on the same page. So it kind of hopefully clear the area there and kind of church 1880 02:11:34,290 --> 02:11:42,110 Pre-specific guidelines for words and kind of lives and warehouses at the upper commission. So I want that. I'm happy to answer your questions. 1881 02:11:42,430 --> 02:11:45,620 May I have any questions for Dan? 1882 02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:48,780 Thank you, Dan. 1883 02:11:49,780 --> 02:11:50,060 Bridget. 1884 02:11:50,200 --> 02:11:50,760 Thank you. 1885 02:11:50,840 --> 02:11:52,460 I don't know what thanks to me at this time. 1886 02:11:53,540 --> 02:11:54,760 I want to thank you for your work. 1887 02:11:56,940 --> 02:11:59,500 It's compared to the other communities we've had over the years. 1888 02:11:59,720 --> 02:12:05,980 I think, you know, you spot on and, you know, pre-emptive versus us having to 1889 02:12:05,980 --> 02:12:08,840 wait for things or postpone things and meetings. 1890 02:12:09,380 --> 02:12:10,620 So, I wanted to point that out. 1891 02:12:12,060 --> 02:12:13,000 That's what I've ever had. 1892 02:12:13,320 --> 02:12:13,520 There you go. 1893 02:12:13,520 --> 02:12:14,700 All right. 1894 02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:16,840 Right. 1895 02:12:16,840 --> 02:12:20,520 Mayor of City Council, there are a few things that stopped a young tomorrow. 1896 02:12:21,220 --> 02:12:25,300 I'm attending a meeting with a product representative of the Hornsby Street alignment. 1897 02:12:25,480 --> 02:12:30,520 I got a kick-off meeting at an Oca County and kind of related to that. 1898 02:12:31,340 --> 02:12:36,560 Probably a reminder in conjunction with Mendoza 35 design build project and work on 1899 02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:40,880 Drunk 997 and the upcoming 2019 Hornsby Street Realignment Project. 1900 02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:42,140 It's a Columbus project. 1901 02:12:42,880 --> 02:12:44,260 The city of Columbus will be closing horns 1902 02:12:44,260 --> 02:12:46,900 B Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday, 1903 02:12:47,100 --> 02:12:47,620 Monday, Monday, Monday, Thursday. 1904 02:12:48,560 --> 02:12:51,040 That'll be closed through the rest of 2018, 1905 02:12:51,700 --> 02:12:52,980 and a majority of 2019. 1906 02:12:54,120 --> 02:12:56,340 So, another closing at north of 97, correct? 1907 02:12:56,620 --> 02:12:58,640 Yep, right at the border there. 1908 02:12:58,820 --> 02:13:00,740 There's a kind of a turnaround that's still left 1909 02:13:00,740 --> 02:13:03,080 if you did venture to honor and you could pull 1910 02:13:03,080 --> 02:13:03,660 and turn around. 1911 02:13:03,720 --> 02:13:06,180 It will be properly signed all the way up to county row 1912 02:13:06,180 --> 02:13:07,380 32 or 11th Avenue. 1913 02:13:08,300 --> 02:13:10,700 So, that would not be a surprise for somebody 1914 02:13:10,700 --> 02:13:13,660 to get all the way down there to find out it's closed. 1915 02:13:14,080 --> 02:13:15,820 Will still have access to the boat ramp from 11th? 1916 02:13:16,560 --> 02:13:16,780 Yep, okay. 1917 02:13:20,770 --> 02:13:24,510 Tomorrow morning, also there's a pre-construction meeting for the NOCA 1918 02:13:24,510 --> 02:13:26,990 ahead of Penn Credit Union in our last all-out here, 1919 02:13:28,190 --> 02:13:30,810 so I'll say about that in the summary, a little bit of a little in there. 1920 02:13:31,230 --> 02:13:33,830 Wednesday night, I'm presenting at the Fair Lake Association 1921 02:13:33,830 --> 02:13:37,050 and your meeting just basically talk about the construction projects 1922 02:13:37,050 --> 02:13:40,930 that are ongoing around their lake and planning 1923 02:13:40,930 --> 02:13:47,670 with the Washington County's projects, and then our street project will have the pre-construction 1924 02:13:47,670 --> 02:13:53,350 meeting Thursday. Just an update in the quarters or commerce. No applications within Washington 1925 02:13:53,350 --> 02:13:57,830 County were successful or Shesagro County, basically they awarded the work to the southwest 1926 02:13:57,830 --> 02:14:05,150 metro area. So that was, again, that application that applied to Highway 97 between 1927 02:14:05,150 --> 02:14:11,410 I had 35 and Trunk I was 61, but I wasn't successful at this time. 1928 02:14:11,690 --> 02:14:15,690 I think I hit briefly earlier on the bidding threshold, so as August 1st we'll have the 1929 02:14:15,690 --> 02:14:23,010 ability to do cool projects out to 175,000 certainly that saves money for the city on 1930 02:14:23,010 --> 02:14:23,690 plants and specks. 1931 02:14:23,870 --> 02:14:29,310 You don't have to go through the full state bid process here, so you can just do cool projects. 1932 02:14:31,730 --> 02:14:35,550 And I think that's all I have. 1933 02:14:36,170 --> 02:14:38,150 Oh, one of the eight that was good to see. 1934 02:14:38,310 --> 02:14:41,090 Remember when we did that joint project with Rice Creek, 1935 02:14:41,250 --> 02:14:43,770 we had funding for that water drain towel down 61 1936 02:14:44,110 --> 02:14:47,510 that's relieved the water out between the Morris McCollough. 1937 02:14:48,070 --> 02:14:49,230 They were farming it this week. 1938 02:14:50,930 --> 02:14:52,330 I think Susan is done. 1939 02:14:52,630 --> 02:14:53,150 Was that the one? 1940 02:14:53,510 --> 02:14:54,390 That's one of the things. 1941 02:14:55,050 --> 02:14:55,770 It's gone. 1942 02:14:56,330 --> 02:14:57,430 Question for you, Ryan. 1943 02:14:57,430 --> 02:14:59,970 you were looking into getting some of the regret. 1944 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:01,720 Are you coming off to that 35 project? 1945 02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:08,180 I have been and currently they're using what material they're bringing off there onto some subgrading 1946 02:15:08,180 --> 02:15:13,400 improvements that they got. However, they know that if they have access, we are the first 1947 02:15:13,400 --> 02:15:20,000 people to be called. I tend these meetings that they're out and I ask them every time 1948 02:15:20,000 --> 02:15:25,300 even though they know that nothing's probably changed in a week, but I'll be part of the next 1949 02:15:25,300 --> 02:15:50,250 So we want to get as much of that material as we can because you can see how much cheaper we're able to do maintenance on gravel road projects with that so maybe we should reach out to Columbus too, but I just haven't to think about it today with the Highway 97 bridge when they rebuild that. 1950 02:15:50,250 --> 02:16:02,510 I don't know what landscape package Columbus or no counties picked out, but it would be great opportunity, especially with the design build to be able to 1951 02:16:03,670 --> 02:16:14,750 unify that a little bit and maybe incorporate components of force like Anne Columbus into a kind of a welcome and some signage along there. 1952 02:16:14,750 --> 02:16:17,470 I think we could probably achieve that a lot of chief 1953 02:16:17,470 --> 02:16:19,270 from trying to work through Minda on that. 1954 02:16:19,950 --> 02:16:21,410 So I'll find out what we're going to do 1955 02:16:21,410 --> 02:16:23,110 of incorporating the project to dates. 1956 02:16:23,950 --> 02:16:26,410 If it's not to the level of the RCD member, 1957 02:16:26,630 --> 02:16:29,470 they do have the landscape partnership program. 1958 02:16:29,610 --> 02:16:31,490 Do we have like plantings that we 1959 02:16:31,490 --> 02:16:35,910 successfully twice up at Broadway in the ramp area? 1960 02:16:36,970 --> 02:16:38,370 So there are two of these down the road, 1961 02:16:38,890 --> 02:16:39,950 but certainly we'll try to incorporate 1962 02:16:39,950 --> 02:16:41,330 what we could with the design go. 1963 02:16:42,410 --> 02:16:43,010 All right. 1964 02:16:43,570 --> 02:16:44,370 Thank you, Ryan. 1965 02:16:44,370 --> 02:16:46,310 Any other questions for Ryan? 1966 02:16:48,570 --> 02:16:50,330 I think that was on staff. 1967 02:16:51,130 --> 02:16:53,750 So then, seeing updates. 1968 02:16:54,690 --> 02:16:57,790 I spent some time with the Legion here this past weekend. 1969 02:16:58,370 --> 02:17:03,610 They had a hero dance there for the kids on Saturday night. 1970 02:17:03,810 --> 02:17:06,450 And as a matter of kids that are less than 18 years old, 1971 02:17:06,970 --> 02:17:09,230 they can invite their hero to go dancing. 1972 02:17:09,590 --> 02:17:10,690 And there's food and all that kind of stuff. 1973 02:17:11,270 --> 02:17:12,590 And I'm nobody's hero, okay? 1974 02:17:12,590 --> 02:17:15,690 But we took the grandkids or any hall, and they had a riot. 1975 02:17:16,610 --> 02:17:17,830 It was just, it was a lot of fun. 1976 02:17:17,990 --> 02:17:20,650 They were, it was music and dancing, and then they 1977 02:17:20,650 --> 02:17:23,190 get to learn a little bit about the veterans and the kind 1978 02:17:23,190 --> 02:17:24,570 of thing, what it's all about. 1979 02:17:24,870 --> 02:17:26,190 So it was a really good time. 1980 02:17:26,610 --> 02:17:30,030 And, of course, the next day, then, be in that, 1981 02:17:30,430 --> 02:17:31,830 I missed out on opening and fishing. 1982 02:17:33,830 --> 02:17:34,790 I'm still polting about that. 1983 02:17:34,790 --> 02:17:37,510 But anyways, we went to the mother's day, 1984 02:17:37,610 --> 02:17:39,350 lunch, and they had it on Sunday at least. 1985 02:17:39,510 --> 02:17:40,870 It was very, very good. 1986 02:17:40,870 --> 02:17:47,190 Well attended, lots and lots of food, and so that was pretty much what I did last couple of weeks. 1987 02:17:47,530 --> 02:17:48,910 Except for surgery in. 1988 02:17:50,010 --> 02:17:53,470 Look at the crunches behind you, I didn't want that how much dancing you were doing. 1989 02:17:53,710 --> 02:17:57,490 There was no dancing. I was strictly an observer. I was just strictly an observer. 1990 02:17:58,550 --> 02:17:59,810 All right. Yeah. 1991 02:18:00,310 --> 02:18:05,310 I got nothing new ever than the attend of the airport commission the last one. 1992 02:18:05,930 --> 02:18:14,130 That seems to be contract and that commission is going much better than in the past and hopefully it continues like that. 1993 02:18:14,290 --> 02:18:18,010 Other than that, everything we talked about is already been talked about tonight. 1994 02:18:18,670 --> 02:18:19,450 All right, nice to hear. 1995 02:18:20,090 --> 02:18:24,670 I do want to bring up one thing in Dan, maybe you want to bring it forward to the airport commission, 1996 02:18:25,230 --> 02:18:30,410 but I think we have an opportunity right now to discuss maybe banning parachuting. 1997 02:18:30,410 --> 02:18:37,610 shooting, it was a source of a lot of complaints when it was there, and I think we'd like 1998 02:18:37,610 --> 02:18:41,790 to open up that discussion in a way whether airport commission chooses to do that or not. 1999 02:18:44,450 --> 02:18:52,430 That was by far the most complaints for noise and things that were happening out there. 2000 02:18:53,150 --> 02:19:01,130 move on to a few things for me. We reached out for the Highway 8 task force. There are 2001 02:19:01,130 --> 02:19:06,510 doing a lot of things up in Chicago County trying to secure funding and improve Highway 8. 2002 02:19:07,330 --> 02:19:12,290 I'd like the City of Forest Lake to be involved with that. Unfortunately, we're all from 2003 02:19:12,290 --> 02:19:16,790 the start, but it's time for us to get involved with that. They have a meeting coming up next 2004 02:19:16,790 --> 02:19:23,010 week, same time as our council meeting unfortunately, so Ryan's going to look to see if he 2005 02:19:23,010 --> 02:19:29,070 can attend that, but if not definitely in the future I'd like to have somebody involved 2006 02:19:29,070 --> 02:19:34,690 in that and try to advocate for that as well. I think it'll benefit our community as much as 2007 02:19:36,390 --> 02:19:42,930 anybody's. I attended the senior center last week. They're thrilled with the improvements that 2008 02:19:42,930 --> 02:19:47,350 coming down the line for them, getting them some new doors on the front of the building. 2009 02:19:48,310 --> 02:19:55,810 And we're also reaching out to Washington County for a grant to get a new dishwasher there. 2010 02:19:56,150 --> 02:20:02,250 So I think there's a great possibility we're going to get that taken care of without costing us any money. 2011 02:20:02,490 --> 02:20:03,990 I'll just check if they're best going. 2012 02:20:04,730 --> 02:20:05,310 phenomenal there. 2013 02:20:05,830 --> 02:20:07,350 That's next and I was going to just touch on. 2014 02:20:08,230 --> 02:20:09,910 But kind of a soft start on that. 2015 02:20:09,910 --> 02:20:11,910 We haven't really done any advertising or anything, 2016 02:20:12,690 --> 02:20:16,030 and ridership has been extremely, extremely good on that, 2017 02:20:16,850 --> 02:20:20,310 and, you know, to the point of pushing capacity sometimes on it. 2018 02:20:20,730 --> 02:20:24,430 So that's turned out well, it's a limited trial, 2019 02:20:24,790 --> 02:20:27,530 but I think definitely they've been waiting years 2020 02:20:27,530 --> 02:20:31,530 to get something like this, and a very reasonable start 2021 02:20:32,150 --> 02:20:32,990 for that. 2022 02:20:33,370 --> 02:20:36,370 So I want to thank the EDA, which rolls me into the next one. 2023 02:20:36,710 --> 02:20:39,030 Since it was their project, we had the EDA meeting 2024 02:20:39,030 --> 02:20:45,710 just before Council tonight, working on some projects there, trying to promote bi-local, 2025 02:20:46,270 --> 02:20:52,530 as well as looking at some new events in the Fourth of July and working with the Legion 2026 02:20:52,530 --> 02:20:54,850 to build that up. 2027 02:20:54,950 --> 02:20:59,710 I think there's some excitement for that as well as a couple of other projects that they're 2028 02:20:59,710 --> 02:21:00,950 working on. 2029 02:21:00,950 --> 02:21:10,730 In my spare time, I've also reached out to Senator Klobuchar and to our representative 2030 02:21:10,730 --> 02:21:17,170 department, both to advocate for the 180th Street in the freeway exchange. 2031 02:21:17,410 --> 02:21:22,810 Do have a meeting coming up with Senator Klobuchar's transportation people. 2032 02:21:23,710 --> 02:21:29,290 And so I'm going to go down a couple different routes to see where we can get this happening 2033 02:21:29,290 --> 02:21:38,530 Hopefully, I'm going to be meeting Ryan and their transportation people as well and a couple of days to go through 2034 02:21:38,530 --> 02:21:44,330 Looking at the studies and things that need to be done, the groundwork before we can make the rest of it happen. 2035 02:21:45,430 --> 02:21:51,250 So quite a bit happening there. Hopefully, it all comes to you something anyway. 2036 02:21:51,250 --> 02:21:53,430 in their possibility, even at Councilman, 2037 02:21:53,470 --> 02:21:57,470 when I get interested in that access with their bus for them? 2038 02:21:58,310 --> 02:22:02,110 For the seniors in that, or the access to freeway? 2039 02:22:03,130 --> 02:22:08,850 I think there is, but more than anything is finding out 2040 02:22:08,850 --> 02:22:13,050 just logic, is the logic there for it? 2041 02:22:13,330 --> 02:22:14,570 I believe there is. 2042 02:22:15,810 --> 02:22:17,750 The traffic numbers aren't there yet, 2043 02:22:18,110 --> 02:22:20,090 but they're not there because there's no road there. 2044 02:22:20,090 --> 02:22:27,970 And so, you know, what comes first, but as far as economic gains for forced lake for Columbus for the whole area, 2045 02:22:28,730 --> 02:22:29,930 I think it would be huge. 2046 02:22:30,810 --> 02:22:32,770 And, you know, it's a future vision. 2047 02:22:33,910 --> 02:22:37,250 We've got farm fields out there that, you know, could be businesses. 2048 02:22:37,930 --> 02:22:41,550 And it could be a huge tax base for forced lake. 2049 02:22:41,550 --> 02:22:47,410 I want to thank you, he pointed out an article in the paper that U.S. Army is looking 2050 02:22:47,410 --> 02:22:54,570 for a research headquarters with over 500 employees, and we are now on the list for that. 2051 02:22:54,650 --> 02:22:56,870 And we're going to be pushing hard for that. 2052 02:22:57,470 --> 02:23:04,510 We'll be sending a couple letters off to the State of Minnesota to the Department of Economic 2053 02:23:04,510 --> 02:23:10,310 Development, and that to both of us like to make sure that we're on the short list 2054 02:23:10,310 --> 02:23:17,370 that as well. So, hopefully, hopefully Minnesota is strong in the running for an opportunity 2055 02:23:17,370 --> 02:23:22,390 like that, but we get a couple of few businesses in the area that are major suppliers 2056 02:23:22,390 --> 02:23:29,130 to the US Army. So, I think there's a great tie in. So, hopefully, we'll see some progress on 2057 02:23:29,130 --> 02:23:37,230 that land as well. So, I think that's when I think that covers most of what I had. So, 2058 02:23:37,230 --> 02:23:42,150 I have a statement that the fire board yet that's coming up. 2059 02:23:42,490 --> 02:23:45,670 Parks and Wales, parks, trails and lakes commission. 2060 02:23:46,710 --> 02:23:48,350 I was going to move forward with getting the playground 2061 02:23:48,350 --> 02:23:50,170 at Lake City Memorial Park Inspector. 2062 02:23:51,470 --> 02:23:55,410 First, I'm sure it's safety, and it's still compliant 2063 02:23:55,410 --> 02:23:57,270 after the shipping exit place there. 2064 02:23:57,930 --> 02:23:59,570 And secondly, to seek professional recommendation, 2065 02:23:59,590 --> 02:24:02,710 how to proceed with repairs on it. 2066 02:24:03,210 --> 02:24:05,570 I think the mayor for the appointment for the commission. 2067 02:24:07,990 --> 02:24:09,410 That is all. 2068 02:24:09,430 --> 02:24:09,950 All right. 2069 02:24:10,130 --> 02:24:11,150 Thank you. 2070 02:24:11,210 --> 02:24:12,510 A couple of quick things. 2071 02:24:12,830 --> 02:24:14,730 A couple of commission met last week Wednesday. 2072 02:24:15,270 --> 02:24:16,870 Scandy as departure is indicated. 2073 02:24:17,170 --> 02:24:22,730 They indicated over a year ago that they were planning to leave that date as June 30th. 2074 02:24:22,750 --> 02:24:25,230 All indications are that that is still their plan. 2075 02:24:26,790 --> 02:24:31,490 So that likely will bring forward some action to our council for revision of the Joint 2076 02:24:31,490 --> 02:24:36,950 agreement and we're resetting the deck for what life looks like with a two city 2077 02:24:36,950 --> 02:24:43,750 commission or a three city commission. Columbus we also gave final approval to 2078 02:24:43,750 --> 02:24:50,050 the Columbus Sun system within their city center and that had been on the 2079 02:24:50,550 --> 02:24:54,410 capital improvement list for quite some time so good to get that kicked free. I also 2080 02:24:54,410 --> 02:24:58,750 noted that on that capital improvement plan is still the reimbursement of the 2081 02:24:58,750 --> 02:25:03,430 like for our city center for our equipment. So we should also be seeing that yet this year. 2082 02:25:06,030 --> 02:25:10,690 Floor hosted their annual volunteer day out at Fenway Field, May 6th. So it was good to see 2083 02:25:10,690 --> 02:25:15,390 you have volunteer out there. Things to everyone who participated did some painting that some 2084 02:25:15,390 --> 02:25:22,250 grounds work, maintenance, good to see the volunteers in out there. Also YMCA, just good reminder 2085 02:25:22,750 --> 02:25:28,730 of that there are community access hours available to all force like residents as part of our 2086 02:25:28,730 --> 02:25:36,670 But especially as you started to think about summer and schools getting out the splash pad will be opening up in our community hours available for the gym 2087 02:25:36,670 --> 02:25:41,790 as well as the splash pad and the community room at no cost of horse-like residents so 2088 02:25:43,870 --> 02:25:50,230 I'm going to take a couple more minutes here because I've got a couple of issues with a couple of people and 2089 02:25:50,230 --> 02:25:53,890 normally it would never do this, but we have a planning commission 2090 02:25:54,430 --> 02:25:55,830 commission in here at Linus 2091 02:25:55,830 --> 02:26:05,270 But it took some time, I believe, up here at the planning commission to call me out about my 2092 02:26:05,270 --> 02:26:06,110 boat. 2093 02:26:06,850 --> 02:26:12,950 I just, it bothers me a lot to do that if you want to do it on your own time, it's one 2094 02:26:12,950 --> 02:26:13,230 thing. 2095 02:26:13,870 --> 02:26:19,310 But when the information are up here and then to put that on the internet and put it on your 2096 02:26:19,310 --> 02:26:27,450 on websites is just it's wrong it was a cheap shot I know Eric's upset because I did not 2097 02:26:27,450 --> 02:26:37,830 appoint him for city council but to say this was about the vote to the treatment facility 2098 02:26:38,690 --> 02:26:45,070 no I I have a lot of issues with that Eric himself at the next planning commission 2099 02:26:45,610 --> 02:26:54,270 water against an amendment for Aqua, which is another business, and I don't know how many 2100 02:26:54,270 --> 02:26:59,530 other times that you can say you support businesses, but whether it's a sell tower that 2101 02:26:59,530 --> 02:27:06,410 he goes against, even though that's on a landowner, landowner rights, but to do this and 2102 02:27:06,410 --> 02:27:11,090 call me out for that and not, you know, have me present to be able to respond or do anything 2103 02:27:11,090 --> 02:27:16,030 else, I think, is wrong. And that brings me to the other one, Mar. And that's yours. 2104 02:27:16,750 --> 02:27:24,570 Saying that I support a junkyard on the 33 acres of land when he put there is wrong, because 2105 02:27:24,570 --> 02:27:31,250 I never did support that. You made the correction, so I will acknowledge that. But you 2106 02:27:31,250 --> 02:27:36,370 came out and said that I supported the business on that piece of property. And that's not 2107 02:27:36,370 --> 02:27:44,230 case. I do support businesses and businesses like that are neat. I understand that. But I never 2108 02:27:44,230 --> 02:27:51,330 supported it on that piece of land. I just think it's worth it. I want to make sure I understand 2109 02:27:51,330 --> 02:27:56,190 you didn't support it on the highway 97 tract of land. I never did. 2110 02:27:58,620 --> 02:27:59,360 You said some other 2111 02:27:59,360 --> 02:28:05,500 things on there to me to blame those things that's been deleted. I just expect a little more 2112 02:28:08,620 --> 02:28:15,600 I think you mentioned that you needed to go get a lobotomy after the meeting that I pointed plain. 2113 02:28:15,880 --> 02:28:17,260 That was on my personal page. 2114 02:28:17,480 --> 02:28:18,920 That wasn't on a city console. 2115 02:28:22,260 --> 02:28:24,260 I think we need a little level of decorum here. 2116 02:28:25,080 --> 02:28:27,420 And for the most part, I think we do a pretty good job of that. 2117 02:28:29,400 --> 02:28:30,900 But we do cross line every now and then. 2118 02:28:31,460 --> 02:28:32,320 So a little bit of reminder. 2119 02:28:32,320 --> 02:28:35,340 And I hope we can go into the future 2120 02:28:35,340 --> 02:28:37,040 where there's some decor in many ways. 2121 02:28:38,700 --> 02:28:39,780 All right, yeah. 2122 02:28:39,780 --> 02:28:43,100 I think I'd like to add to that as I read the comments 2123 02:28:43,100 --> 02:28:48,680 on Facebook, read the article that was written in the low-down 2124 02:28:49,300 --> 02:28:52,700 about that you prefer a young character 2125 02:28:52,700 --> 02:28:54,540 over a mental health facility. 2126 02:28:55,220 --> 02:28:58,400 And that you went on a record and voted on that. 2127 02:28:59,600 --> 02:29:01,940 We were to work out, everybody knows we don't vote 2128 02:29:01,940 --> 02:29:07,420 workshop, there was no vote. Everybody knows that if you read the minutes of that workshop, 2129 02:29:07,760 --> 02:29:14,500 that comment was never made, that he preferred a junkyard over a mental health facility. 2130 02:29:15,560 --> 02:29:21,840 Yes, never. And yet it's appearing in print as though it's gospel and that's wrong. 2131 02:29:23,560 --> 02:29:29,720 But it is true that there was support indicated for zoning change for the, let's call it a 2132 02:29:29,720 --> 02:29:32,360 of the Jard, and internet based on the Jard. 2133 02:29:32,480 --> 02:29:35,440 There was support indicated for... 2134 02:29:35,440 --> 02:29:36,600 No, not our... 2135 02:29:36,600 --> 02:29:38,780 The only person that brought that forward was 2136 02:29:38,780 --> 02:29:41,980 down of him wanted to come up with an ordinance 2137 02:29:42,600 --> 02:29:46,060 to make it more difficult for those types of businesses to locate. 2138 02:29:46,720 --> 02:29:50,240 And Ben's response was, he would not be in favor 2139 02:29:50,240 --> 02:29:52,940 of making an ordinance that would affect dealerships 2140 02:29:52,940 --> 02:29:54,320 that we already have. 2141 02:29:55,160 --> 02:29:57,940 That was the discussion that I recall in that workshop. 2142 02:29:57,940 --> 02:29:59,980 There was never until- 2143 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:09,520 Lude that he preferred a junkyard over the mental health facility. When the mental health facility wasn't even mentioned that at workshop. 2144 02:30:10,240 --> 02:30:11,500 That was totally wrong. 2145 02:30:16,750 --> 02:30:17,370 Thank you Ed. 2146 02:30:18,490 --> 02:30:20,370 Let me say that. 2147 02:30:22,100 --> 02:30:25,700 If you ever need to clarify something, feel free to contact me on that. 2148 02:30:25,900 --> 02:30:26,980 Thank you, record, just clear. 2149 02:30:28,800 --> 02:30:30,080 Look for a motion to adjourn. 2150 02:30:31,200 --> 02:30:31,580 Second. 2151 02:30:32,920 --> 02:30:33,500 All those in favor? 2152 02:30:33,860 --> 02:30:34,200 Aye. 2153 02:30:34,200 --> 02:30:36,560 you need to get in.