Thank you.
I'm just a little bit in it, but I have a really, really dark circle, and I want to put it in the whole time anyway.
Yeah, but it's pretty much what's the last time you just kind of have the trial by the trial and error, that's what you're going to have
I was pretty much it's a lot of moving parts I get that
But I need to go, so I think I've almost started to gather here, I'm not sure if it's going to turn to some of those pictures.
You're saying they're going to have three book, everybody's going to have a chair.
Yeah, that's what you start.
That's where you really start.
Actually, definitely really somebody.
Things like these.
That might as a man that I don't know.
Yeah.
So, uh, it wasn't music here.
There was a whole lot of people there.
It was a whole lot of people there.
There's the size of the antelopes, it's the state of the kayak and the docking.
There's something that I want to see.
Some posts and died on a minute after they heard that.
Look at this.
I like that.
What's the one that does that?
And that's over.
Do we don't get it?
There's nothing else.
There's a clear number of answers.
All right, it is seven o'clock. We'll call this meeting order.
Bailey, can we get a roll call?
Councilmember Baccus.
Councilmember Bain.
Councilmember Hasnick.
Councilmember Eidner.
Here.
And Mayor Winnie.
Sir, ask everybody to rise for pledge of legions.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands.
One nation, one on the back, and it is all, but never to need justice for all.
I look for motion to approve the agenda.
The move.
Second.
All those in favor?
Motion carries.
It brings us to open form.
Mark Woodell.
Mark Woodell, 9509 North Shore Trail, Forest Lake.
My concerns are with lift station 12.
I'll just quickly read through this, because if I try to just recite and we might be here well.
In the 1960s, the sanitary sewer system servicing lake homes in the reinforced lake
temperature was installed.
At that time, there were still many summer homes around the lake.
The system seemed to be adequate for what it served.
By the late 1970s, the homes on force like a change can mostly year round homes, and some
off lake areas had been added to the sanitary sewer system.
The problems in the source system arose and the homes were being flooded.
We live in the area of LISTATION 12 that we're going to next to it to the south of it.
Three homes in this area have been flooded and have the potential for backflow problems.
The sewer pipe in our home enters at the mean floor level.
In our home the backflow and overflow the toilet and tub runs through the back portion of our home.
Don the basement steps, flood the basement, flowing at some pit, and we would be pumped
out into the yard where we would flow into the lake.
This didn't seem like a good situation, so we added a bypass system, which would allow
the back floor to be channeled outside before entering our home.
In 2006, when the new housing developments were approved to be added to the lift stations
11, 12 and 13 flow.
An engineering report after much discussion
did recommend that the flow from LISTATION 13
should bypass LISTATION 12.
This bypass recommendation did not happen until after
there was a storm on Memorial Day weekend in 2008.
The bypass system in our home kept most of the backflow
from entering with the majority flowing through the egg
to the lake.
The second home in the area you have flooding in the lower level.
The bypass live station 13 to live station 11 has since been installed.
Although the possibility of back court has been greatly reduced over the years, it still
exists.
I called into the city, and when I did have a meeting about what was being done about this
station and was told that until it was proved, they don't have meetings like that.
So I sent a note back with a couple of concerns on there.
One being the flooding of the houses and the other is when gas was put into our area.
The gas lanes ran down the middle of this access to the houses.
Our electric runs down the middle of it.
And the two wells are done by the house.
So service needs to be done to them.
There has to be a waste for vehicles to get down
at access, and so I'm asking, is this lift station
being put in so that that can happen?
As it is now, we can get vehicles down there.
But I have no idea what the new plans are,
because apparently the city doesn't share them
until after their plant.
So I am requesting that before anything is
concretely done, that we can at least talk about this.
Thank you.
All right, thank you.
We've got a couple more people to speak
and look at the live station 12.
So Mike.
Oh, my name is Mike Donald, 9495,
North Shore Trail of North.
Also, here to talk about lift station 12, this project of the future project here for updating it and moving the lines, I guess.
I second a lot what he said, and then also, concerns of mine would be the future for future home improvements.
Force main runs, you know, Katie quarter through my property, and then the gravity feed lines.
I'm kind of just here to get information and the same thing to notify it or what's actually going on.
what they're going to do with the future project.
So, all right.
Thank you.
Do you want to do it?
Here.
Let me.
I'm Roger Wine Garth, 95.011, North Shore Trail.
I'm actually Mike's neighbor.
And I have had conversations, email conversations,
and that was done of a while back.
My concerns are obviously to do some home improvements
to that home.
I'd like to obviously put a garage.
And if you wherever at my home, you'll
see you have to come straight up onto the street.
And there's a blind, it's absolutely a blind access.
And unless I can get the home improvements,
I am definitely afraid of getting into a serious accident
coming out of there.
And the biggest issue I have, of course, is where the means are,
where they go across my yard.
And it sounds to me like if I'm going to have to build a garage
or move it back or to make, obviously, all the regulations were,
the city would like wants to put a lean on my house because if something happens to the
main that's underneath there I'm liable for it and quite frankly I'm going to agree
with Mark and with Mike that I just like to know what the plans are. I really I have no access
to any information. I will get down of him credit he has been responsive but again I still don't
any specifics.
Thank you.
I think before we go on, Brian, do you want to address?
What about what's going on?
We can have a meeting with those concerned community members in that area as well.
So like the original project, obviously we had favorable bits.
So that I left the city in a situation where we could either add the project or just
roll it into a future project, what the direction that we received after we got about halfway
through with the base bid, the decision to move forward and obtain additional pricing from
the contractor to see if it would still fit within the line of the project budget that we
bonded for and to those stations do, so that's our solicitation 12T you've heard about
and 4C, and that was the prepared in the change order, so getting everything to this point
pricing, and then if you guys did approve the change order, then we would go out and, you
know, thoroughly review the projects with the prop, prop owners just like we did on all
the other live station sites. If we're not approving, you know, the project or the change
order, you know, really kind of rampant up anticipation of an improvement that didn't happen.
So specifically, which listation 12 to you, I was in a very tight area, serves, I don't know,
exact number of homes, it's on my head, but less.
Less than 20. So in that area, there's an 8-inch gravity, pi, piano, which drains into the lift station area. So just like your traditional main line, you have a gravity line that drains, and then when you run out of gravity, you can go to pump it out of there.
Currently, the force main runs parallel with the trunk line or the main line, and I believe that's the line that's been discussed this evening of concern.
part of the lift station 12 team improvements do provide for relocating that's out to an
or short trail right away. So basically we would, you know, cap and abandon and then place
the force main where it is and if construction and time happens and servers that pipe it's
no big deal because it's not in use anymore. But we would then reline and bring the force
main out to North Short Trail and then run it parallel with North Short Trail and that other
this station project that was done several years ago maybe 10 plus. So then we have
two force maids basically coming into one conjunction on manhole further down the road.
But it would require relocating and because of the type quarters, landscaping, tree coverage
in that area, we're not going in there and I guess fully excavating the existing stuff out,
retrofitting per work with a design I would work for public works where basically coming
and then with the pre-cast fiberglass inserts
within the existing structure,
but then replacing all the guts within the structure,
just like we have with the others
and a new control panel.
So that's the scope of the work, you know.
We know how old Ed Lift Station is right now.
Either in the 50s or 60s,
they don't have that chart with me.
Also, it hasn't been in the original.
It is, wow, definitely needs to have some work done to it.
You said you guys would be relaying the grabbing line,
and then was that we would be relocating the force
made with the new force made drive-son drill.
Was I and I at Concernium, I know he had mentioned the storms,
what was bringing on some of the back of the structure.
We haven't boarded, isn't a lighting contractor?
If that's something that we wanted to tackle,
we would do that with another project.
Obviously, we have a lot of I and I in town,
But that would be something we can do anytime, the live and gravity through even a
quote, Project Public Works does, you know, go through televised in and identify the
high priority areas for those learning projects as the CIP for the, speaking of
Thoma Header and now on the CIP for the Santers who are, I think, our next
identified, cured in place, pipe project is 2020 and I think it had $5,000,000
to your mark if that stayed funded.
All right, thank you, Ryan.
So we will be discussing this at the agenda tonight.
But I think, you know, it's Ryan indicated in a process.
We're going to have to approve it before then, you know,
he's going to meet with home owners.
I would definitely say if we approve it tonight
and there's some type of complications or hesitations,
We'd like to hear about them because we can obviously try to make accommodations as well.
Then we'll back to the open form with a
Sholzy
Hi Jim Sholts for us like I'm here to ask you for a street light tonight
I'm a little bit out of sequence. Normally I go to the airport commission first and then I come to you folks
Um, due to the sequence of things, um, I've come here tonight first, uh, let me see if I can bring this up.
That's my desktop.
Um, in the meantime, uh, we just recently, within the last, uh, week or two, have had a second break in it,
at the airport. And can all of you see the photograph?
Okay. Hey, what you're seeing there is
looking northward Highway 97 runs from left to right and then you've got a thin way off to
the left side of the screen and then as you come south or toward the bottom of the picture off
of Highway 97, that's where hanger E or hanger echo, it's called, down that long driveway.
Some of those buildings have been removed since then, I have three things marked on
there at gate, the bungalow, which is still in existence, and then the hanger itself.
The break-in, we had one occur on November 7th, and then since that time, I understand
police have done some extra patrolling for us out there. And then we had a second break
in that occurred on about May 1st. And we've had a heater and a generator stall in probably
600, 800 bucks were the stuff out of there. The optimum answer for us would be to electrify
the building and we could put in a cool camera, maybe put in some extra security lighting,
whatever, electrifying the building is about a $10,000 process,
but short term answer could
be as cheap as a $1,250 answer, that's what it would cost to put a street light in at the
northwest corner of Hangar Echo. Currently there is a street light over the gate, which hasn't
been working for a few months, but there is one up there. The closest power and transformer is
located at the end of the bungalow there.
And so if we were to electrify that hanger,
it would have to come from the bungalow down to the hanger.
But a light could be ran, essentially
I would recommend taking one off the gate and put it up by the hanger.
And hopefully that would reduce things.
This has an impact of 0.34 a year residence
or 5.1 guy pays double.
And if you had someone in your town come to you and ask you to put up a light or move a light
500 feet because they've had two break-ins, I would hope you would consider favorably of maybe
spending the 1200 bucks in moving the light and that's essentially what I'm asking for tonight.
I did ask with Minnesota DOT, their aeronautics department, they don't have emergency funding available for this sort of thing.
They can put it in and perhaps do some funding looking at it in about a year from now when the CIP process goes through.
But if it costs 1,200 to put it in, and we've already had 600 bucks worth of stuff stolen, it doesn't really merit waiting another year for us.
I hope. Again, the police did do some additional patrolling since the first break in, but it obviously wasn't enough to stop the second one.
And that's pretty much what I came for tonight.
Full disclosure, I have asked the airport commission previously about getting some gravel
put around that same hanger.
So I'm asking the city for some money.
This is a second time I've came to ask, but I don't know that that motion has come to you yet.
Anyway, I wanted to let you know, and I'm asking you to spend some money out there on hanger
echo.
Any questions?
Thanks.
Thank you.
Thank you, Ron Schaefer.
I'm listening to all these people that want stuff.
Well, we got streetlights all over the city.
I can't see any from my house.
We didn't use the pay for them.
Now we are.
I don't know why.
If you can give me an explanation of how it benefits me.
I can think about things that I complained about years ago.
And when there was a lady councilman, and they said,
gee, we never had police out by our house.
I said, but when they come in the city,
didn't running around all of them, or she said, well,
that's where the taverns are.
Now, I don't know, should we open up a tavern or not?
Well, I live.
I don't think there'd be enough people out there to support it.
And I'm thinking about all the other things that the
city people got.
They got parks, we don't have any out where I live.
We got walking trails, we don't have any.
We have walking bridges, we don't have any of them either.
And I'm wondering, why are we supporting them?
Can you tell me of that?
Anybody?
I don't think you can.
Because the city people are benefiting from this.
We have buses running to the city.
I've never written one.
I've been out here 40 years and probably never will.
right one. I drove 20 years into my job from here to the same
Paul way I worked. And I think we're starting to benefit people too much.
Let's let people take care of themselves and not give them anything.
The airport, I got to think about that, sell it. Let the people that buy it, do
whatever they want with it. They can put lights up all over the thing. And they
can put pavement all over they want. It won't affect me one way or the other.
we're going to have an airplane and I'm never going to fly there.
But let's start benefiting the people in the township.
Everything seems to be going into the city.
Nothing goes into the township.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you.
That ends the open form.
I'm going to consent agenda.
I'll look for an approval that it changes there, too.
That's right.
Make a motion that we've approved the consent agenda is written.
I had a few items to come off, if you're open to a, from the amendment items A, B, and K.
A, A, B, and what was the other one?
K. A, B, and K.
Is that okay with you then, Sam?
Oh, except that amendment.
All right, and we have a second time it. Any other changes?
Hold on one second.
It was there when I'm a ping-a-contractor, would it?
That was K. That's the regular agenda, turn it over.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
It looks like the consent right there.
That one's off. That one's off.
That's off. Okay.
All right. I'll look for an approval of consent agenda,
removing items A, B, and K for further discussion.
All those in favor?
Aye.
Opposed?
Okay. Those are cleared. I don't take these one at a time. Item six A.
Six A, I just had a quick question on, there's two items for large items for the metropolitan.
Met Council Environmental Services. One is for 118,000 and the other is 322,000.
I just wanted clarification on what those were before we approved.
Yeah, the Twitter in 2021 is for sewer access charge,
And that's what we, other just path through funds, so we got charge up the net council, so that's what.
The $3 and $20,000 one is and the $18,000 one is the actual, it's just a bill that the net council charges us to.
Process the sewer of the waste, I could send down steam on there, etc. And so that's just our monthly sewer bill.
It monthly or is it?
Quarterly. Quarterly.
The quarterly charge, okay.
Sorry about that, Mike.
Thank you.
I make a motion that we approve city bells as indicated.
I'll second a motion.
All right.
We have a motion in a second and if you're the discussion,
you're now in all those of favorite.
Aye.
Opposed motion carries.
All right.
Item six B.
Which is the city council meeting minutes.
Minutes from April 9.
Just a quick update.
And the motion to airport lease rates was a little clunky as written, and I thought there
was worse clarification, let me get to this page, I believe it's on page 27.
The motion as written in the minutes was give the recommendation back to city to determine
with CPI number to be agreed upon by airport commission-general and staff, and I wanted
just to be clear that we were referring back to city and staff, as well as the airport commission,
the CPI rates.
D&D was written.
This direction we took from CSF was basically take back the CPI determination back to the
airport commission and work with them to have them.
You know, I basically revamped the original memo.
We clarified CPI and CPI you and then about the airport commission for consideration.
I think we've done the right thing, I think we just, I just wanted the motion to be clear that we were referring back to staff for additional work.
And I would make the motion to approve the minutes as amended.
Remember, it was going to go back to the airport commission.
That was it.
And I went back to staff and the airport commission, correct?
Correct.
Yeah.
I was directed to go back to fine CPI, along with the airport commission.
Yeah.
We were going to find which CPI to use and that was going to come from our financial
Correct.
So I wouldn't like a motion that we approved the amended minutes.
With that amendment made.
The amendment of, I don't know what amendment because that was what the motion was.
We are going to be discussing that tonight, anyway, and here for we is 7, over to 7, which is 7, which is 7, so on page 27 of our packet, which are the minutes for April 9, item e,
the word I'm troubled by is recommendation back to the city, we didn't send a recommendation back to the city, we referred action back to the city.
I just wanted our action to be clear, which was we referred back to the city,
back to city staff, and the airport commission.
So, how do you want it to lead specifically?
Want to make a motion that includes how you want it?
Refer the airport lease rates, back to city staff, and the airport commission to determine which CPI to use.
You have a place to recommend with, refer?
I re-worked a little bit, but that's the primary change.
I understand.
All right, so we have a motion.
Do we have a second?
How's that?
Any further discussion on this?
All those in favor?
Aye.
Opposed?
One abstaining.
And one abstain.
All right.
And then item six K, a runway in parallel taxi wave, pay request, a number eight.
So this is the Dressel pay request.
If I'm reading this right,
We are reducing to a retainage of 15,000.
Is that correct?
That's correct.
That's basically representative of what they have left to do,
which is basically I think some paperwork
that they're confirmed that they work.
And we were holding too much retainage at like 65,000.
The paperwork is nowhere near that amount.
So this brings us back in line with the remainder
of the items that are on the list.
That was exactly my question.
I just wanted to confirm, given,
I knew that there was work remaining,
but wanting to make sure that this remaining 15,000
was still the right amount and that they had completed other items.
This doesn't have concern.
This has been an open item for quite some time.
Dan, does that retainer in any way affect the litigation that we are pending?
Has no effect on that?
Has actually recommended that we actually get this taken care of.
Because we can't, at this point, that's a separate issue from this retainer's issue.
So we need to get through a teenage issue,
brought back in line with the work that still left open.
So is there an expected completion date for everything?
It's a good question.
I actually asked the contractor when he planned on being able to finish his...
We'll call it punchless work.
He was out of town last week, he's going to try to get to as soon as possible,
but we'll have him...
We have him on a couple of other projects in town, so obviously keep reminding him
and I wouldn't just spit the work, he'd be done no later than June.
because after that's then we kind of get into dry season 2 because there's a little bit of
restoration on the north end, drainage area, poor race creek waters, a district requirement,
so a couple things to take care of, but relatively minor.
So the remaining $15,000, that would be enough to cover those minor items?
I think it's conservative, but I don't know if that would be that way than low.
We still have a bond in place with the project too, so, but we're talking a couple of little things here.
And is that bond staying in place for a year after the project's complete or how does it?
We don't have to release a bond, correct?
Or how to?
I guess I haven't seen a bond release request come through before the council before so.
No, because this was done by a different firm, the project.
I don't know exactly what's in the contracts, but typically, you know, I have a warranty a year after the project, right?
If they don't honor it, then we've gone back before in the past and used the binding company to make the corrections.
Thank you, Ryan.
Any other discussion on this?
Item?
It's not a little bit of a motion.
Oh, make a motion that we approve the payment to Druffle.
Second.
All right.
Item 6K.
We had a motion a second, any further discussion.
You ready, none, all those in favor?
Hi.
Opposed?
So that clears a consent agenda.
Yeah, and two regular items.
Well, I'm meeting mentally
just to prove those in the consent agenda.
The reason why these are there is that there is a reason,
because I'm not going to say it would happen to abstain,
or we're not present at the meeting.
So instead of trying to pull those off,
individual kind of consent agenda.
We listed them as the first four items on the regular agenda, so that just kind of cleaned
up the consent agenda, approval a little bit.
All right.
And make a vision that we approve the State Council meetings that took me to minutes that took
place on March 26, 2018.
Second.
Any discussion?
All those in favor?
Aye.
Okay.
No, one abstain, and four yeses.
It doesn't make it.
All right.
Let's try this again.
Item 7B.
Can we make a motion now?
We approve the City Council meeting, minutes set of the meeting that took place April 2, 2018.
I have a, I have a change to those meeting minutes.
I think there's in our discussion section, which is in section 6, discussion starts
with actually what was the second action of the night, which was my most nomination for
Dawn Steeleer.
The discussion section is missing, Council Member Hussnick's initial nomination for
Connie Kobovi.
That is properly reflected down below in the voting section, but I think we should include
that in the discussion just so there's clarity and consistency.
I'll
accept your amendment.
All right.
So, we'll go back to the amendment.
It's also the amended motion.
Any further discussion?
Any none?
All those in favour?
Aye.
One abstain.
We're going through this.
So, a seven C local board of appeals on April 9.
So, I also have a change to these minutes, sorry guys.
Board of Appeals, Consumant Baccus is listed as not listed on the roster for attendance,
which I believe is correct, but he is listed in the absence as being absent when we adjourned,
and we should be consistent on those.
So, either he was, he didn't actually take office till later that evening for
one of those sections.
change. Just remove the absent. Come after the absent section. Correct. And with that, I'll make
a motion. We approve the amended minutes. All right. And Sam, you agreed to that. Yeah, I'll just
make it. Oh, you're making the motion. I think he's seconded. All right. Looking for a second?
I will
So three other curries.
And we're upshot meeting minutes, April 16th, 70.
And they're commercial.
We're upshot meeting minutes, April 16th.
The motion.
Second.
We have a second.
Any further discussion?
All right.
Here we go.
And all those in favor.
All right.
Up the post.
And upstand.
Ready to abstain.
And pull down.
No.
I'm not.
I said I.
Okay. I only abstain from the other one because there wasn't a person for those.
70, Dan, do you want to take us through the airport lease adjustment?
I am here. I remember the council during the May 2nd airport commission meeting.
I brought back the lease rate adjustments to define the CPI to be used to make those adjustments.
And then based on that CPI, we then adjusted lease rates back from 2007 to 2007.
The CPI that was actually presented during the airport commission meeting was the Minneapolis St. Paul CPIU.
And if you look back in my memo that was originally sent out to the airport commission meeting,
that CPI covers a production of the 89% of the population living within the Minneapolis St. Paul area.
It covers Washington County as well.
So it's the consumer price index that you would use for determining price increases in this area.
Based on the CPIU, which the airport commission did recommend approval of as the CPI2 would use as least rate adjustments.
What we saw from 2008 to 2017 was a 14.491% increase in CPI.
And based on that percent increase, you see lease rates adjusting on the non-commercial side to 10.3 cents per square foot.
and commercial loose rates within adjust to 15.5 cents per square foot.
At the airport commission meeting, they did recommend that both the CPIU be approved as they recommended the CPI.
And then they directed staff to go back with the accounting staff to make sure that we had the,
these increased correct and the correct, these, the new correct per square foot rates.
I'm going to go back and I'm going to find a structure to verify all my facts and figures and did get the an email blessing saying that the numbers are correct
So they said the 10.3 in the 15.5 sense is accurate on a per square foot basis
So what you have before you tonight is a resolution
05 1418-02
which does designate the Minneapolis sample CPIU as the airport CPI and then adjust the least rates based on that CPI
And the reasons why you have a resolution for this one is that technically change the
least rates requires an ordinance because an amendment to the ordinance because it is tied
in with the fee schedule, which is amended on an ordinance basis.
This resolution basically sets a record of the council that does desire to adjust these
least rates.
And it also directs the next thing to bring a fee schedule update that we will update the
schedule so we can, you know, put these new lease rates in that fee schedule.
So instead of doing an ordinance amount, just simply for this,
basically codifying or probably not the right technical term.
But we're putting basically a resolution on paper that says this is the clear
marching orders for the direction we want for the upper lease rates.
And then the next one of the fee schedule comes forward.
We will bring those forward as part of a fee schedule update.
So at this point, if the recommended action would be the
approved resolution of 0514-802, which would adjust the least rates to as it presented.
We have it answering the questions you may have on the CPI or the proposed least rate adjustments.
Thank you, Dan. Any questions for Dan and I'm staying up?
I've got one. I understand the intent. I think everybody does.
The one thing I see not clarified on here is the fact that we adjust these lease rates every
two years.
And I think that we need to clarify just because there's been so many issues, the fact that
the lease would be an aggregate of those two years, not just one of the years, or doubling
one of the years, because we could have a scenario where one year goes up 10 or 12% and
next year it could go down 3% and then we're going to get into, you know, that discussion
well, it's not right, but if we can put in there that it's an aggregate of our average
of those two years, I think it'll just keep an issue from cropping up later.
And then yeah, that would be consistent what we did in the last three races, Johnson, we basically
just ran the starting CPI and the finishing CPI and figured out the percentage increase.
So in your example, if you did see a big increase in one, you're in a reduction in the
race.
Because even through the 2018-2017 there was a couple of years where CPI actually did decrease
in there as well.
That was all fact.
When we actually set the whole, we start the start in the ending number.
So that would be doing that would be consistent with how this was determined.
So the next time you take the CPI for 18 CPI for 19 in terms of what the next least
which would be, again, consistent with how this lesson was determined.
I think it's a good clarification as well.
I think we can do to make this more clear and recognize that it's an annual number
and we are taking an aggregate of a two year period, I think it's good.
Any other comment I would make is that going forward, we do it every two.
I mean, that one went from 2008 to 2016, or anything was a just mandatory every two years.
Just looking back at the two years.
Yeah.
To the last two.
I agree with that as well.
I mean, we could look back at the last 20 and try and average it every time.
But let's just, the two years from the, or from whatever that last,
The rate increase was correct.
Which object would you like to do it?
Anatory that every year.
Yeah, I mean, not skip it two years or not.
Yeah.
I'd like to see you all.
Good afternoon.
Thank you.
I want to thank the question for Dan or maybe it's a request.
The language is in here for the $200 per unit.
As we know, it's been a contentious conversation over the last year.
a
If we could have an update at our upcoming meeting, probably a close session to talk about status of arbitration or status of mediation, just so we can also can get an update on that and then consider in the future what we want to do with a $280.
Now you're talking close session for the ongoing lawsuit, just to clarify people in the audience.
I would say a closed session to get an update on where we are with the mediation, because in my mind that is a prerequisite before we consider doing anything different with the $280, which I know there's some in the audience that have that question out there.
Maybe bridge you can speak to this, but rather than having close session, would Dan be able to, or somebody just be able to individually have consultation with the council members as to where that's at, is I'm not really sure if a close session to update at this point has been official in the long run.
I think just the point of a clarification on a closed session for the mediation is probably recommended just to get everybody
because I think we're potentially making some decision points here where the next steps
so it would be advantageous to get the council in the room with the legal concept at that point
just to kind of lay out what are the options because there are multifaceted options that can be done at this point
to get a resolution to this I probably would be advantageous at the closed session just so you can get some clear direction as to what direction
Council forces to go with the mediation.
The point at the point I want to make about this whole thing that $290 dollars, you know,
that's been posed under the hangar owners, has nothing to do with that airport overrun.
Absolutely nothing.
And the fact that it keeps getting brought up that way is just isn't right.
I mean, there was, we had an opportunity to stop that from happening in the first place,
and it didn't even come to us for a vote, and that's the problem with it.
It has nothing to do with the hand-owners.
And so the idea that we have to wait until that's clarified is not right, just isn't right.
Yeah, I don't think it does, and that's why I wanted to bring that up, but, you know, I mean,
I believe there are two different completely separate issues.
It is.
I just wanted to.
Yeah, and so too, respond to that.
Directly.
I would defer to a litigation council just as far as updates are concerned
and because they're handling that matter to speak on that piece.
And then just to clarify, kind of what this resolution is trying to do, because I know
it's to try to do a lot of things.
I mean, there are really two things that are happening here.
The first is that it's trying to designate the Minneapolis-Saint-Paul C.C.I.U. as that
is official C.P.I.U. as reference in the least rate.
So that's sort of the first thing that the resolution does.
And then the second thing it does is to adjust the least rate's effective July 1st, I believe
it is.
that is finding instructors requesting that something being
inviting to make an adjust those.
And what I'm hearing in the council say is that there
wants to be, there's like some clarification,
comes with like clarification regarding how these
rates will be adjusted going forward.
And this is where it gets complicated, because the city has
all these different leases, without these different airport
hanger, tenants, and they're all different depending on
when they were executed.
But they all reference this periodic readjustment.
So perhaps clarification remains to amend number three
to indicate that the adjusted lease rates
listed above will be effective as of July 1, 2018 and re-evaluated and re-adjusted effective
July 1, 2020 just to clarify that again this will come up in 2020, not sure that in capsules
like how close it is.
Yeah.
That's always the way it's been.
Very quickly.
Can we just put like a biennual?
Re-evaluated biennually thereafter?
The other thing I think we should add to it is that right now we finally after all this time
that it's CPI you with CPI you as if next year is going to have a new name, so I think we
should put that in there.
I was thinking we have a point in time though that we can go back to as it adjusts out, so
the next one won't be a year after that, so it's going to be pretty easy to rather compare
us.
You know, just in case if you make a CPI change, you know, they'd just say that they're going to
be another name at X-Y-Z, but if they decide at the last point to the official,
you know,
the name, and I'd like
to point forward. The new name.
It's very good to understand. It's the same as the CPI EU.
I thought we were in the bottom.
I'll look for a motion.
Do you want to make a motion?
I would make the motion, except I would rather abstain from.
The budget could you rephrase the language you proposed for Adam 3 there?
Thank you, ma'am. I was at the council. I did suggest to recommend that the language in item three could be revised to read the adjusted lease rates listed above would be affected as of July 1st, 2018 and will be re-evaluated and re-adjusted
effect of July 1st or going forward, effect of July 1st of each year going forward or there
is recommendation by any other after either or.
That's fine.
I think that's clearly stated in the least holders contracts as well.
So it's fine to have it in there.
But I'll make a motion to a manner as Lucian has stated.
as Bridget just stated correct all right so we have a motion I was second all right
we're getting there any further discussion you're ignoring none all those in favor
all right all right all right all right all right all right all right
all right the
kind of kick off the discussion this evening,
regardless of the land exchange piece,
you have a number of materials in your packet
and members of the council related
to a proposed development called Headwaters Place.
There are really two different sets of approvals
that the council is being asked to consider this evening.
There are a variety of land use and zone related approvals
that Donovan will take you through in a few minutes.
But first and foremost is the initial matter
before the council, which is a proposed land exchange
between the city and Fenway investments.
So I think if you can call it the map on them.
Thank you.
Looking up here.
Can you exit it?
Come out.
The graphic.
I can't sure.
Well, he's loading it and I can't talk the council through it.
So previously, the council was approached by Fenway Investments regarding a proposed
land exchange.
The city owns a large outlet called Outlot E, which abuts a personal owned by Fenway
investments.
Both are located within my water's PVD master plan area.
The city owns, again, outlaw E. And, Fenway Investments is seeking to exchange
a portion of that city owned outlaw E for a parcel of property located adjacent to Fenway
Athletic Complex north of the area.
The proposal is essentially an even exchange mean. There's no money that's contemplated
to its change hands. Rather, the city would need to, finally, investments, 4.22 acre parcel
of portion of outlaw E, which is shown, essentially in the yellow on the diagram in the
visual and front of you, and exchange for the brown parcel to the north. The purchase agreement
I should say, land exchange agreement, contemplates that, finally, investments would pay for
all of the costs associated, essentially all of the costs associated with the transfer,
including fees and things of that nature.
I would note that the proposed closing is an August of this year, and this agenda item was sent
down to planning commission for its review and consideration and feedback prior to or in conjunction
with the land use approvals.
I would be happy to answer any questions that Council has regarding the terms of the proposed
land exchange.
I would note that there is a resolution in your packet on page 117 that references
The exhibits which are the land exchange agreement, there's a new version that was provided to you just today.
That was the result of the developer giving that information to the city just today.
And it references, again, the Planning Commission's review of the proposed land exchange in its written findings.
The proposed land exchange in conjunction with the land use approval of being sought,
are in compliance with the city's comprehensive plan for the city disposition of the property and city acquisition of the property.
The proposed resolution would authorize the managed change as contemplated in the terms of the agreement and authorize the execution of the necessary closing documents by the mayor and city staff.
So if that I see up for any questions related to the land exchange component of the transaction.
Thank you, Bridget. Any questions for Bridget on this?
All right, so take it to Donovan and who is doing the next question on this?
I think we are contemplating a group in the land, yes, exchange agreement first, then moving into this only if the council is approval.
I'll make a motion that we approve resolution 0.5158803.
I believe our packet has an incorrect resolution number.
0.515, it says 0.8, it should be 1803.
All right. Open this up for any further discussion.
The one concern I have on this is just with
houses being built there next to the airport.
How do we document that, you know, these buyers and obviously
everybody knows there's another port there, but once, you know, homeowners move in there and say,
boy, it's so noisy here, you gotta do something or we're gonna, you know, sue you or do this
or that. And I'm just wondering what type of notice documents something in the provisions
here that say that the buyers are fully aware of this is next to a municipal airport.
I agree with you, Ben, and I think that the developers have to acknowledge at least acknowledge that one of the things that's going to happen in that other area there too is for what is a four-story apartment building and you know what the noise isn't going to be the issue. What's going to be the issue is a lighting.
That means there's going to be a better than that for me.
And then on the end of those run, on the end of the runway,
both Answers think called Reals,
Runway and Identification Lights, and they're very bright
strobe lights that are operated by the pilot.
You can turn them on.
They run and tell you land.
And they're probably, I don't know, a 15-minute
or whatever they run.
But they're a very powerful strobe light.
They're going to be shiny right in those windows.
And I know that the engineers that said,
I had this as all great son of the overlay and all that stuff, but it's going to be an issue.
And somebody has asked to acknowledge that it's going to be an issue.
Down on all this discussion at Planning Commission on this.
We did hear this at public testimony that those lights are an issue at that time.
I mean, don't the plan commission, basically, they acknowledged that, but didn't make changing
and recommendations involving the actual, you know, approval conditions.
Yeah.
I was, I was at that meeting.
I just asked for the developers to acknowledge that that could be an issue, so I was
going to make that statement.
Okay.
So to follow on that, maybe the question for staff is, where is the best place in this
process for us to get acknowledgement of that in or to request that we're kind of sitting
in the land exchange portion of the agenda.
I have a sense it's probably more in the project portion but the question is a good one
and I guess I wonder where does that best belong?
Well I don't want to get halfway through and then have to, yeah, I believe the best place for
It would be in the plat, which is a final resolution in your packet, one ending in 06.
There's a series of conditions there related to the platting, and that's involving the
creation of the twin-home lots, and there is a HOA contemplated, and so the city often
as you know we require this admission as a middle of those H.O.A. organizational documents.
It's a prime of July to speak please.
Thank you.
I have a recommendation.
Mayor and members of the Council.
In the developers agreement I think it's where to put it.
You know this.
It's fine I just before we go down this path.
It's good to work with you so thank you.
But I don't, you know, I don't want to get beyond where we should and then have to backtrack on something.
And I appreciate that.
I do, and you know, the provision here is to, you know, I've got some experience in remodeling houses down in, you know, near the metropolitan airport.
And then what kind of windows you might put in.
All those sorts of things will be recommended, you know, sound editing.
And I think the developers agreement is where to put it.
All right.
Yeah, Mr. Pride, I thank you.
Because that,
no sound.
These wheels put it around the end.
Are they shielding on the back side or anything?
Well, for an backside there is a much, it's a kind of a straight forward.
There's a pair of money each end of the runway. And what I don't follow you tonight or anything else.
Yeah, if it's a little bit, you know, we're certainly not an instrument-rated airport at the time, but people still use them even once we afar.
Because it does show you right where the threshold is. And they're very powerful, strobe light. And if you ever see them, if you're going on 61 and they happen to be on, you're going to know it.
And I don't, you know, like a Mr. Prats development, I don't think it's going to be that big of a deal.
as it is to that department.
That's proposed in that next parcel there.
And he does have some trees there that are kind of shielding that area there,
but we're all aware of it for certainly.
All right.
We have a motion in a second for the land exchange, do you believe?
Any further discussion?
Well, they're here and done.
All those in favor?
Aye.
Opposed?
So
we'll take it on to the second portion of it.
Mayor members of the council like to present the multiple applications to create, but essentially, a 32-in-home
lot of developmental, residential development.
As the city attorney showed the, you know, showed again just for your reference, where this
The proposal is on the southern end of the approach zone of the Missile Airport, with the
Trans-Senter, the service center and the YMCA to the south and trail side apartments,
there as well.
To actually affect this subdivision, the series of applications improve a lot of
which would merge the, um, the last thing, change parcel to the wooded area to the, uh,
the curly own local family, curly, um, private home, own local family, a lot.
Comprehensive plan amendment, which I'll, I'll, you tell these little, uh, later here,
Zoe Meph amendment, plenary pd amendment, that's plan new development amendment, and a plenary
platform application, which is subdivided in the property.
See, Council has reviewed this, and a couple of workshops last summer
into fall, and the approved the concept plan in January of this year.
If at the April 25th, Plan and Commission meeting,
Plan and Commission did recommend city council approval of the applications.
And explain a little further on exactly what we mean by the zoning map and future land use comprehensive plan changes.
You can see the existing conditions here on your left.
That's the private homes parcel.
A lot E is the city on parcel.
And what the proposal is is to then change, put this into, um, into, uh,
private home ownership, and then rezone this all the shaded area to MX R1, or a future
land use of, um, low-medium, density residential, and so that's the, that's the end game,
Then, more specifically,
the project areas about 11.8 acres, this is for the subdivision
plant.
And we have a mixture of zoning districts, including industrial, multiple family, headwaters,
PUD, and airport overlay.
The campgrounds of land use plan, that's in the comprehensive plan, is high-density residential
and parking recreation.
And what's sought here is for the component amendment is to change the future land use category
from the city property, from parking recreation to low-medium density residential.
And that rear part of the proud homes land from high-density residential to low-medium density residential.
Again, this is for the twin-home development.
And similarly, for the zoning app amendment,
change the zoning from industrial to the MXR1 single
in townhouse residential, and then from multiple
family to, again, MXR1.
The planned unit development amendment is for the
original headwaters amendment.
It was adopted past in 2006, what's proposed here for the
is a change of building setbacks,
in which these largely mirror what we've seen
at Headwaters 11, where there is a similar single level
town, homes that have never seen the plenary platter
approval from Council.
For this, theaper pose of front-loaded town
home that's vehicle access from the front with
the garage space in the street, which the original Headwaters
Master Pewdie did not have this type of building, and then a change from minimum lot
size and width to a 5,000 square foot lot at the minimum 32 foot width, and then also
a proposed parking standard, which is 2 in close and 2 off street, you know, basically
driveway parking spaces, which also is compatible with single family homes throughout
to the city in the zone code.
One thing, if you notice, also, I want to mention that the resolutions
that you're receiving the packet, different ones aspect with the exhibit.
And this is a, you've received a paper copy this evening.
The actual length change parser is 4.22 acres.
as the city turned mentioned, or I owe a clarification on that, and this point, since
Council has received information on this over the last years, so I would like to basically
leave that, not talk more about the project, but mention that if Council is entertaining
motions to go in specific order that relate to the kind of the overall, from general to
specific. So start with motion, start with resolution, any no four, and then the
ordent, and that relates to the complement amendment, then the ordent's number 674, which
relates to the zoning map amendment,
then the resolution 05 that relates to the
planning and development amendment.
And then 06 relates to the plenary plot, you know, passing a adoption.
And of course, if I could remind you that that would be where any sort of
to the development agreement would be the best place to include that is an additional condition of the approval.
So with that, I'd like to take any questions from City Council.
You just go back to the slide where we're amending the 8th of the zoning.
Oh, yes, sure.
Oh, one there, the one out.
This one?
Well, I guess my questions were amending that.
Are we amending Mr. Pratt's parcel that we're taking in exchange, or is that staying
in industrial,
or, oh, yes, that's, this zoning methamment, and complementment do not involve
that property.
So it's currently its own industrial with airport overlay, and that's proposed for me.
I guess that can be done in a later day, but I don't see any logic in keeping that industrial
So, at its location, so maybe we need to put that on workshop or something, or just look
at when we can change that to, for
emotions or questions or answers.
I feel like this has been well workshoped, and well discussed as we've gone through.
So I don't have a lot of questions for staff.
I like it.
I mean, I just regret, I've been really good to work with on this, thank you.
I've heard a lot of good things about the product that it's single-level, down in the home.
It seems like there's a good demand for it.
We're just discussing that at the EDA a little bit earlier, so I think it'll work out well.
I think it should work out well for everybody.
I do want to talk to Ryan a little bit, because not this, but forest road north itself actually seems to be getting so much more traffic on it,
And headwaters parkway, and I'm just wondering if there's, you know, any way we can get people actually go to the stop late and use headwaters parkway.
Or if it's just more of a product of having that develop more.
But by far at night, I see so many vehicles on forest road.
And that's fine.
But that really wasn't the intention of that.
That's a discussion for further down.
I don't want to put you on the spot right now, but for us to actually get head waters, Parkway,
growing and developing and be nice to get to a lot more wheels than that one, and we'll
so straff it comes.
So back to the land exchange.
Any further questions or we'll get a motion on that?
Okay.
I'll kick us up with a motion to approve resolution 0 5 14 18 and 0 4.
We'll second that off the first step, leave.
All right.
Now, this is just for the land exchanges itself.
Go for your sand.
It was at the motion.
This is a job being a comprehensive plan.
I'm going to vote no on that.
Simply because we just did this recently,
where we turned down a zoning tax amendment here about a month ago,
has nothing to do with Mr. Pratt's project.
Has nothing to do with his product.
It's because of the consistency of how we vote for clarification on that, not right now.
This is just to amend this parcel, not change the language of everything that's own that way, correct?
Any further discussions?
All those in favour?
Aye.
Opposed?
An abstain.
All right.
Motion carries.
I'll do the second.
Don, and then just doing a quick place, check the next step, the next step would be
approving ordinance 674, correct?
Correct.
Which is the zoning code relating to the zoning maps.
Follow.
I know it's the make a motion that we approve ordinance 674.
All right, we have a motion.
Have a second.
Any further discussion?
All those in favour?
Aye.
Opposed?
And abstain.
On to see motion to approve resolution.
0,5, 14, 18, 0,5, pooling, preliminary, PDE amendment.
Now the development agreement, Donna, and then we'll come to us later.
Yeah, within the platform, approval, there's a specific why it relates to conditions related
to financials and we've got the best place for it.
Another four, four, two documents.
And the HOA, do we have anything to do with that as well?
The city often does request those organizational documents and I find it helpful to have a record,
but it's essentially a private contract between the developer and buyers.
But certainly as part of a subdivision, I believe the city protects public health and welfare.
It's a good option, I believe, to include some sort of acknowledgement so that,
Well, I get fewer calls for noise and essentially I think the noise ordinance is not restrictive enough to actually prohibit any sort of airport flight.
You know, what I could be like that.
But, you know, believe it's just to make sure that it's acknowledged that this is a pretty distant condition and buyers are buying into this, you know, location that has an airport there for the foreseeable future.
All right, thank you.
And the discussion is not a vote for a motion number
0.5, 14, 18, 0.5,
improving the preliminary period event.
Thank you.
All right, we have motion a second.
Any further discussion?
All those in favour?
Aye.
Opposed?
Motion carries.
And last one.
Motion approval resolution 0.5, 14, 0.6.
We're proving the preliminary plan for the headwaters plan with all staff conditions.
The interest in staff's recommendation of a revision to accommodate language for.
That would
be in the development of this. That was my understanding. Not in the one that I read, what in the actual development of the government when they come back.
You got it.
Do I have an evening reference in the edits to this particular resolution?
No, but the,
and we don't, perhaps there's language you could add that does relate to
the, you know, maybe it is a little bit additional, whereas we often don't work with
resolutions.
We want to do this time to get everything specific.
So perhaps it's city to help us here in this one.
So the resolution of the packet was prepared by my office to just form a line and explain
what we're doing and to provide a written record as to the city's approval of the preliminary
flight as you know, the preliminary flight of approval is essentially final flight of approval.
So if a flight comes forward and it's consistent with what's been presented to the council
as far as the preliminary plan is concerned, and the issues are addressed as indicated in
the city-engineers' letter, had it what the city is looking at. So it's an important
step in the process for the council to consider and determine if the preliminary
plan meets all of the requirements of the city-cold-related two-plighting.
My understanding is speaking with staff, there are 66 conditions which are listed in the
and years later dated April 18th, so the proposed approval of the preliminary five is subject
to addressing all of these conditions. These do include execution of a development agreement
and a few other issues there. But if there are considerations or concerns, Council has
it would be good to watch those out in the city and to go ahead and illustrate it at this
So that was 66 conditions, noise is not one of them at this present time.
Not tonight at all right.
I don't think that's any mention anymore in that letter.
I did not comment on that.
Well, noise and or lighting, as long as something's okay with lighting,
we might have more of a difference.
So before I understand you right, the time to do this now.
So I think NAM members with Council, I think the issue is that you want to ensure that individuals
who are purchasing property are aware that there's an airport and airports come with
no even light.
So what I have heard the conversations today is that it's part of the development of the
government and the developer of here's to indicate that he's a meetable business that the
future development of those properties, purchasers of the property will be advised in some form
you're adjacent to an airport, there is noise, there are lights, essentially a fire of
So in the thought that it really could put something and I understand that he's agreeing to this right here on the spot that when he can provide buyers information related to the existing
afford and some of those considerations.
So I think that necessarily has to be a condition that the guidance to these conditions, which really prioritizes the technical specifications of the file itself.
But it's certainly incorporated into the thought that we're doing.
But as a present time, there's nothing like Mr. Pratt suggested that, to be able to put in a certain kind of window, because of the voice more noise, that's not any of this.
No, so what, again, what you're reviewing here is a preliminary approval, which is really the subdivision of the land itself.
So what you're approving, how the land can be divided and you've amended the PV to incorporate the types of uses that could be on the land, all of those designs,
the specifications that is not before you as part of the preliminary PV approval.
But we'll come to a set of future meeting, correct? Those items would be yet to come in that next phase.
and so the items we are concerned about tonight we have opportunity to address side of
the future meeting.
So, specifically, if you're talking about the notification piece, many of the staff will
come recording a mid-development agreement.
So, in the development agreement, we can put out information about the notification
requirements that's being requested by the city.
And certainly, since that out there, I would assume individuals who are potentially
purchasing a product, either interacting from a developer or whoever they're going to
have somebody else build them and so on. And again, there will be some notification to the
purchase about this property. And hopefully we'll end up reaching and you turn out
to assume that that might be used to facilitate design discussions related to the windows
or any improvements that buy and might want to buy or make to that unit of their purchase
and say whether it is ID-9.
And those details one presented to the Planning Commission and that's the time they would
forward, right, as the city could recommend that we have some proof windows at that time.
So, it's just quite your ability to get a focus on the vision of the land. This isn't
entirely talking about the most specific issues. I don't understand it, but at a later
date, I don't know.
And they actually put the proposal of what kind of building's going there and all that.
Well, it's already been kind of touched on the colonel and P.U.D. of who are seeing the
in my life, between home, how does it go through?
And Ryan, I don't know if there's any
in the building, her main point of the days
or anything like that, that's not usually
unlike any single point in the bottom of it.
I don't know how that information is conveyed,
but really, the type of windows you're going to put in
is ultimately up on the end, users are in the developer.
So the second city while I was to be able to point back
to something that's powerful in it,
because I really want to make sure that the buyers
are aware that I think that's
I think what I do in the point is we'll incorporate that
know if the patient keeps him in the development rate, right?
Yeah.
Thank you, Griget.
I guess my concern was noise to begin with,
but since we have a new item, these wheels going in at the airport,
are they on the ground or are they on the ground level,
at the end of the road, right?
I have to in the runway under just all two big headlights.
It's a big question, is can there be some shrubbery, something behind them, between them and the apartment building?
I mean, the closer we get some type of screening to that light, I thought I would walk it from the building.
I think if you're going to do that, it would have to go next to the development.
It would have to be off the earth.
Okay.
Well, again, it's been done.
I don't think they were aware of it.
probably did that hold it or it's, but yeah, I mean, it probably isn't going to be that big
an issue.
No, I think it's just something that people need to be aware of, so you can kick in your
picture every three seconds, you know?
I think so.
Well, there's a lot of developers aware of it and, you know, it's acknowledged.
I mean, I don't really think we need to put any, it's a small cost on construction, but
Well, he's just, I mean, he's certainly willing to put it in the development agreement.
So, it's just an awareness thing.
Well, I'd say questions.
I'll be ready to walk a man out next the airport.
I'll be ready to take some of the facilities.
We got this.
Correct, you know.
I think so.
I'm in the motion that we have approved.
Resolution 0515 1806.
Which is the preliminary part.
All second up.
All right.
We had a motion, we have a second, clarification that is correct number.
I'd just incorrect on the, you have the correct number.
0 by 14, 18, 0, 6.
That's what I got.
Yeah, that was correct number.
It was one before that.
It was incorrect.
It's missed type in the packet.
Yeah, no, summary document.
Oh.
Okay.
On that resolution number.
It's all correct.
I think it's the plan.
That's the question.
Any further discussion on that?
Very none. I'm going to go a question. I'll close the paper. Hi. Hi.
A close and abstain.
I'm going to take care of
it.
That's even way more complicated than it should have been.
Part of my fault. There's no question about that.
But you don't want to say it's a zoning map amendment.
It's an amendment to the zoning.
I don't care how you slice it.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't need some vision.
Rig it.
Thank you. I'm very, very, very helpful.
Before you to see me clear consideration,
is ordering from a 675 which makes some adjustments to the cities existing, the size, there
be business and the size, there, but the size seems to be pretty cool.
This item was brought in a couple of potential in the workshop back in January.
There was a kind of wholesale revision of the code that was brought for some equipment and
health and directions.
The staff was to really take a look at the code's orders and focus on the whole code
on the public safety aspects and how the ordinance be revised,
the best meetings of the city, from a public safety standpoint,
from a licensing perspective, and from a law enforcement perspective.
So in that direction of mine, we took a look at the proposed ordinance
revisions.
Chief leaders and I had a conversation.
He provided his input about what he thought was a lot of significant
proposal revisions.
And from that conversation, the discussion came, the proposed ordinance
before you consideration this e-mail.
The proposed ordinance does attempt to address
the monthly concerns that were raised by number one,
adding additional language requesting information
about previous licensing suspensions
and obligations for applicants for licenses from the city,
by adding in language that would allow the denial
of a license if a person has certain types
of criminal convictions and had not shown
out to an evidence of sufficient rehabilitation is required by statute order to have that
license issued.
The application process is clarified in the sense that, before or in the little, I would
clear the license kind of went to the city clerk and the meeting went to the council on
it was unclear who is issuing a license but because of the discretionary components that
necessarily go into granting these licensees, which include this consideration of our new
of good moral care and energy.
Have you shown sufficient evidence of rehabilitation?
These discretionary decisions are not
ones that can be downloaded into the city court.
So, of course, for all of the size there have been
some therapy businesses, their licensees
will come before the Council for approval.
We also clarify what the process looks like
for a suspension of application of the licenses.
If they fail to provide the terms and conditions
of the license, which do remain law-writing,
We added in some language that prohibits advertising of illegal or erotic content or conduct at the license premises as part of the conditions of the license.
To give one or two in a city of Google, if you see ads, for example, on backcage.com or other places where the services that are being advertised appear to imply a constitutional
Well, it serves as to say this is a violation of your license that can serve as a tool to gain compliance.
I would also note that there were a number of provisions that were removed.
Some of these had to do with information that we don't work with.
So I think that was the city of Clark.
We don't ask information about kind of the business location.
We don't look at the lease for the property.
We don't ask about the creditor information.
We're not collecting it.
So we shouldn't have it not code saying we're collecting it.
And then some of the last provision in the ordinance
were repealed related to kind of the criminal panel
penalties and things like that.
That's really a style of practice.
There is a general penalty section in the city
poll, which makes everything unnecessary
unless determined otherwise.
So any violation of this poll or even over repealing away
was in the section of the Senate, and the mayor is still
in the Senate.
So again, essentially, the proposed ordinance
decisions seek to provide bond enforcement
the city with those two influences on the public safety and health safety and welfare aspects
of regulating these types of businesses.
I didn't completely impact the two different documents for your review.
Is it a show of the renewables and proposed provisions for the City Code and why is the
key to see them in a broader context about the other licensing provisions?
Just for ease of reference, the second document, which is the actual evidence itself,
is what the Council is being asked to review and consider this evening,
which, again, shows specifically the information and the onboarding that has been removed,
and it has been proposed for an official.
So with that I see up for any questions from your other account, so.
Thank you, Bigger.
I think you did a really good job with these versions.
I would like to see one change on here.
The hours of operation.
The ADM seems not really modern.
I mean, I would like to see six A.N. as a starting time.
I think there's a lot of people that would, if it was available,
they could get them sized before they had outdoor.
So, and whether at 9.10, the closing time could be debatable,
but I think that at least providing that for the people that are working the end,
we've seen that would be good.
Any other comments?
I wouldn't have a problem with that.
Thank you, Sam.
I agree.
I did have a question.
We're going to the panel meeting, but for the answer, that's all.
Thank you.
What type of time would they apply to processes?
Is there a time one at a pretty days or?
I'm just a person who's got a set title in it and the city has to act on the application.
It's not like it's the only application where there's a 60-year-old.
That might be a city can't drive a city to it.
Once applying for license, a lot of it would probably depend.
The background check and whether that's in the state or out of the state, and I don't know it, city clerk or in the city minister have a sense of how long it takes to say who are practical standpoint and can you get an application?
I would probably say the process is quickly as possible. We try to, if an application were to come into my, let's say we were trying to get a process in prepared for the next council agenda.
And we took a good look at, you know, when that is, there's certain ones that come back to come in two days before the last council meeting, usually we can't get all that back work.
I'm going to try to process some of this as quickly as possible. We're not typically sitting on them for two weeks or kind of, you know, as quickly as they can turn them over, we can turn them over.
I guess we use a mask to, you know, for the therapists themselves that are looking to start a job and be tough to have to wait a month through, you know, without an income or whatnot.
I do have a couple questions, but we reach out to the folks that have already, we have a couple
of legitimate businesses here doing this side, and do they have any comments right?
Feedback on any of this at all or?
Yeah, they will provide it with the proposed changes as well as the client, on Instagram,
and we want business to go back to us with our thoughts and I'm sure they will be there.
Okay, so they're moving forward against their...
So it's a clear by that.
That reach occurred after kind of the original council work session and broader discussion.
So we'll get a larger review of the post-urvision and ordinance.
And a lot of the highlights related to things such as the age of people working at the business,
in particular, was a salon that wanted some clarification about the salon,
is this aspect versus the massage?
Is this aspect?
So, their partners were incorporated in the kind of a broader original ordinance review.
I don't believe any of the comments that I recall are implicated by what's being proposed here.
And then the second question I'm going to be the chief speaker.
I mean, you started to help a couple of you over in any way.
That helps.
Yeah, definitely helps from a law enforcement standpoint.
I mean, it certainly seems like a common sense thing.
I just want to make sure that everybody is on board with it.
Yeah, yep.
It's definitely a positive change.
Just like with any city policies or ordinances,
they need to be reviewed every so often.
You know, every couple of years in this one, definitely need to be updated.
And I think city attorney to the excellent job.
Those are your questions I had.
Thank you.
One last question for me, I guess,
and just trying to expedite the process too.
If somebody means all the requirements in the city just issued them license, why does that have to come back through the council?
It seems like an extra step that really is a necessary.
If they're qualified, they need all staff requirements.
Why can't we just issue an license so we can start the next day.
You need to see our challenge you.
What's that?
You look at see on our shell issue basis.
Yeah, I would like to at least have that discussion.
I mean there's a lot of legitimate people working in that business
and why should we delay them for our next council meeting
which could be a couple of weeks.
We can't do it on a workshop.
So, you know, it could be a big gap sometimes.
Charlie, if I can speak to that kind of question,
I think the issue here is that under state statute
Well, the quick is authorized to issue a number of licenses,
they need to be kind of the straightforward one
where if you need all of the requirements,
such as a dog license or something,
like that, then the license shall issue.
So there's no kind of discretionary component.
The challenge here in why this license
solve in the category of liquor licenses
that is to maximize the systems of the household
supposed to improve the net.
You have this criteria, for example,
if they don't have any prior prohibition
that would disqual, I have to require
exercise of discretion, and the council really can't validate the exercise of its discretion
to staff.
So that's a determination to council needs to make.
And again, I don't see any of the things perfect on sort of a clear straight forward business
life in the application, why there would be a delay.
But it's more than a matter of when you get into these criteria that indicate discretion
or require the council to exercise its authority, where the council needs to be making
decision as opposed to the work, which is why the process was verified the way it was.
And there's no ability to enter a interim or a two week license or anything by staff,
but it has to go through console.
I'm not sure if I'm not sure of how that process would work.
I think the bigger challenge here is if you issue the license without really applying the criteria
and you're trying to re-boke it.
It makes more sense to just have it all done at once.
I clarify that for me, thank you.
I'll put a question.
Any other questions?
I'll make a motion that we approve or make 675 as I'm ahead of the procedure.
All right.
We have a motion in a second.
Any further discussion?
You're in none of the rules in favour?
Hi.
The polls?
Motion carries.
7, 9.
You know I'm a common clerk?
I have a high recommendation for you tonight for the intermediate, intermediate accounting
clerk position.
We received over 30 applications for the open position, ran them through your ring
to candidates, ran through testing interviews, and after going through a whole process,
the decision was made to pursue the hiring of Abbey Bristol for the position.
Based on her performance in both the interview and testing process, we did do reference
checks with her positive and completed background check.
We did make a condition of that offer to add you for the position.
That offer is contingent on City Council approval.
Abby currently works for the City of Oakdale as a record technician, where she's involved
in scanning documents into laser speech.
She also does monthly and UN report, compilations, and assembly for the city.
and she also issues licenses for the city of Oakdale.
Prior to working for the city of Oakdale,
I'd be working as an office assistant with the College of San Sklastica
and as an office clerk for the Washington County Park Works Department.
If Abby is approved tonight, her anticipated start date is June 4th.
The recommendation before tonight is to approve the height of Adi Listo
So, as an intermediate accounting court position at the established grade position, which was grade 5, step 2,
every happy to answer any questions you have regarding the recommendation.
This is at full-time, four-year-old.
Correct, yes.
Some of you have questions?
No, I'm leaving.
Sounds of you, like you did your homework.
So, we had over 30 applicants, is it?
You're sure, according to this, she's certain to qualify for the job.
Mm.
I make a motion that we accept the recommendation by the staff to hire heavy restole, is that a pronounce it?
In the intermediate economy position.
At the established grade for the position grade five step two.
I'll select another one.
Any further discussion on that?
All those in favour?
Aye.
What was the motion carries?
Welcome, maybe?
Getting down to the end.
Mayor City Council, and the packet is the results in the Ward Recognition,
better for the 2018 Street Paming Maintenance Project.
We did receive six bids.
A little bit was definitely more than engineers' estimates,
so that was good and we'll be able to add some money on feed to the project.
Tonight we're recommending, I see council Ward of Project
to an A3 corporation in the amounts of 6,078,000,
$5.50.
Why, what was your estimate on this?
I was $700.
Okay.
That's not very far off for different engineers estimate.
No, I don't know about it.
No, I don't know.
The second amount was close.
This is a bit to see.
A lot of hand.
That's a bit to see.
We got a lot of hand contact.
We're doing this.
So that was some higher pricing there.
And typically, with obviously the current curve genes,
we actually have, obviously, contingent of approval tonight.
We have the pre-concept for this already for Thursday.
I've made a motion that wakes up the bid by
an I-Five Requal Corporation for $678,485 and 50 cents
as per Ryan Goodman's estimate.
Now, second.
I don't know any further discussion.
I'll vote in favour.
Hi.
Both.
Motion carries.
Now, let's see if that's the school.
Next project in your agenda, obviously we had the bid opening a long time ago, but
you have to go through the formal process of federal approval, but before you can award
it.
So, this bid's the bid's were reviewed from the Office of Civil Rights, because a little
bit didn't need a disadvantage, business enterprise participation goal.
That's the benefit of the federal funding that I'll check that out.
and now we're basically being given approval to award the contract.
So, I was better, I was also contracting corporate in the amount of P-117,000 P-111,
and I was in 39 cents.
As a recommendation for award for the 2018 Safety Officer School Pedestrian Connection Improvements.
There is a location map in there.
So, some of you guys wanted to part of when the grant was actually received three years ago.
So, that's how long these grants have been applied for.
And it's probably being funded with the grants and instructions they needed a lot, please.
Is this a fully funded grant?
It's at 820.
I don't know how we could beat it up any different.
No, it is.
So I'll make the motion that we, more of the contract,
if this will contract, you can cooperate it to the amount of 817,000,
831 dollars in 39 cents.
Okay.
All right.
We have a motion, we have a second, and we put a discussion here and then, all those
of favor?
Hi.
Opposed?
Motion carries.
Thank you, Ryan.
The 2017-2018 list station improvements, including the crowd here, wait for this one.
Ryan, do you want to take a Zoom this?
I guess before we move in any action, I just want to ask a forward if there's any questions
that concerns that did not address.
I'll just quick summary so if I didn't hit on in something, I'll pre-to come up.
I won't talk about porcelain, it's a full recon, right on with an incitin city right away.
Actually brings a little closer to the city road in that area.
12T serves approximately 15 homes and three homes on the north and the rest of the house,
the south, the gravity fed and coming to one manhole, and this chart is into a listation
12T, which the force main goes northward, parallel with existing gravity, and is in between
the houses and some garages headed north and before it tails back to North Shore.
Skope of the word would relocate the force main, straight out to North Shore trail from the
existing cities right away with the listation rise within, and then run parallel with
roadway up to the man hall, so the new relocated out of this garage area. This work does not
include any work to the gravity line or the private services that are within. Listation itself
is a full recon inside, existing structure, kind of what's left will still be there, but a retrofitted
with a fiberglass insert, unimpumps control panel that will be replaced. It will be now set up for
bypass humbling ability to no plug-in and generator if we did lose power right now it doesn't
have all that. So that's kind of the highlights of the project. I think I have one
property owner to the south of the structure just located in 9519. Is there one or two to the
You're in a way north end of it.
I'm going to add work costs.
So that course may not even be a band in place.
There would be some removal of replacement of the by-tune in the surface.
I met her from on the top of the unit.
He mentioned it went all the way down the lake.
Our scope of work doesn't go all the way down the lake.
So, the scope of the work and the goal is to pass the
listation area and then the manual, but we're all the pipes coming through.
And that's kind of where we're going to be removed in place too, so.
Recently, I have some of these gentlemen here, because they've experienced the backup
to ignore, for sure, what was causing those backups was a power outage.
I and I just kind of curious if this is going to resolve an adequate pumping as Chris
just could give them a piece of mind when we're addressing it one of the multiple issues
that cause of that coast.
I don't have all the history, Dave Adams has, and I wish he was here, but we got a pretty
big water main break.
I'm 61 right now.
I can't answer that, but if we're not comfortable moving forward, my recommendation
to be the table is action item to the next councilman, so that information could be
other than presented, otherwise.
Other question I was there after this is there left over mornings where if I and I were an issue that that is something that we could need to pursue yet on this project, sliplining of the grieving.
We would do that with a separate contract because we would then target specifically lining companies.
Okay. So right now you're just going to get a mark of the past, the paperwork, where in one of my updates later,
And I was going to talk about the competitive
video thresholds that changed as a fact of August 1st.
We can now grow up for quotes up to 175,000 versus
100,000 we've been out of 10 years.
Certainly, you could get a good line in your project
with 100,000 and 75,000.
What had to hold up any progress just
through the answering a question or two that
wouldn't need to be factored in this project?
I don't think we'd get favorable pricing through this
contractor for lineing because you're going to instantly
pay a markup because this contractor doesn't do anything like that.
Well, I think they've been doing a great job so far.
I mean, I haven't heard one complaint other than, you know, a couple of questions,
why it was taken so long to get the one over here.
It's 60, obviously, is the most visible area of all the projects.
And that's where they had all the issues because they were going really well.
And then they hit that two-week hold spill and everything got frozen in the ground.
they couldn't get it out. And then they tried pulling stuff out of the ground and they're
kept breaking equipment. Finally they said, we gotta let it sit, come back and
spring, right? Yeah. So otherwise everything else has gone really well.
I remember watching Hank on that thing over there. I think you're going to break it back over
right now. It was just crazy. Anyway, all right. You're, oh I'm sorry. I just, you
know, for the property owners, do you have any concerns with like the abandoned pipes in
ground anything like that.
And that would be a benefit to the start of the sentence, sir.
Because it sounds like everything's going to be farther away from the houses
than they were before.
Well, that could be a problem too, because is there going to be the same amount
of retention?
Because that is part of the problem.
There's a two making a report that's set around the lake.
Some houses play in a bunch of 10 minutes or a little of 10 minutes.
I was a lot longer, so if you're moving around farther up to this, it's still at half of the same retention capacity.
The capacity of the listation is not being increased.
Nor could you increase this unless you completely took out the existing structure and dropped a big wet well.
Oh, and that funds are all about what it increases.
No, the station stays as is.
The force main is being relocated.
Donna, can you pull up the GIS?
Yeah, I don't think we could do this project
if we had to move the lift station to another location
a much more expensive.
If we move the lift station, then we either have to extend gravity pipe
or relocate gravity pipe.
Because the lift station is placed at the low point of gravity pipe
coming from two directions.
Once we pull up the GIS,
I think it'll help a lot,
Because without knowing what you're looking at it, it's pretty.
Can we tap him in?
Plug in.
More?
No, it's all right.
Fix me.
I can see it fine.
We're talking about it.
Well, it's a 95.
Perfect.
So the listation is in yellow, yellow, box.
And gravity comes.
The green pipe is gravity.
So gravity comes in the north to the listation to the south.
And then it also picks up several homes from the south.
So that green circle over the yellow box
is the low point in the gravity sensory sewer line.
So it comes there.
And then there's a very short pipe segment
going to the east into the lift station.
When that lift station needs to pump out, right?
Now it pumps up where the yellow line is parallel with the
That force main would be relocated out to North Shore Trail straight out, you know, right
at the lift station.
We will pipe the line straight out to North Shore Trail and turn and go parallel with the other
force main there.
That will all be directly drilled to get to the next manual.
Well, I think you can get it right now,
because remember we're using the existing steel casing
that's there, and we're going to drop a fiberglass insert into the structure.
So with the two, we have a child that we have in the gym,
the gym, we have a six-day and a half-time,
like we're going to come up to the two houses,
and then play them a little bit to play it,
and play it from the beginning, but we get it out on the board.
Yeah. Yeah.
So the listation is, I would say,
there's that manual is probably 20 feet west of the listation,
even if they look like they're on top of each other here.
just a scale, right? And I would say the pavement goes another 15 feet west. So that way
it truck it back all the way up down there and get into these mammals that they had to.
I don't think about me.
In case they had to work out in their wells and they had to work out in their
way.
So that's kind of a, I guess, a different issue than.
I mean, yeah, they'll be adequate room on the property to, you know, for nine streets.
We're not shrinking any of the area.
That what you're concerned about.
Yeah, they want space to be a vehicle to get through there.
And they stay at the same as it is now.
Yeah, so we're removing and replacing the city access down to the station.
I
couldn't show you my phone.
But my book, no, it isn't really going to look any different when it's done.
Other than just a newer box payment going down to it because we'll have to rip that out to get the
force made back out to North Shore trail before they will set up direction and drilling
out on North Shore and then drill to the north.
Do you know how many times a day this lift station runs?
I don't know that often.
And you said it will be ready to go to the generator access.
You know, all the lift stations have that capability now after the project, or some of them actually, the main ones,
reports on a permanent generator atom.
And the force mean itself wouldn't, I mean, the flooding that they're talking about would come from the gravity side of the sewer system, not the force main side.
Yeah.
The force means all pressure, so obviously if we get a leak, just one little leak in the
force man, then we got to go fix that because you lose the pressure to push the
south down the line.
Now the sanitary sewer, you probably got some cracks in the joints, you know, as a typical
with our sewer system, especially this age of sewer, all the services that are connected and
into the House, they probably had cracks in their own service lines too, so.
I have been explaining to all of the problems that occur
if you have a time where you're done.
I think you're briefly good.
The
problem is occurring not when the lift station is working.
If everything is working, it's working fine.
In 2006, they were going to add two developments on to it.
The problem happens if one of two things happen if there's an electrical failure or somewhere
down, line from this one, there's the failure and one of the stations.
At that point, it all depends on how long it takes somebody to get it fixed.
Because not so much if there's an electrical failure, although living on the lake, people can go down and
bring buckets of water up to flesh to toilets, but downline is where the problem is.
And if it takes a long time, this station, because all of the houses in that area still
have electrical power, they're still running everything into this station.
And like I say, 2008 was the last time that this happened more or earlier, it's about 10 years
now right now. And the public works department does a fantastic job. They're the ones that
probably have kept more of these things from happening. But at that time, they kind of
forgot about us. They were pumping out of the 13 and they were pumping out of 11.
But for
We happen to have a little bypass there, so we weren't hit as bad.
The neighbors stood over down, had a backflow valve, which failed, and it flooded out
their lower level, which goes through the house and down to the lake.
So that's where the problem was, and that's why I was asking about retention.
Can you tell me, perhaps, how long the corridor was out at that point?
We were gone that when we got home, the neighbor said that they had been flooded out, and
We had some residuals, like I said, ours can be into the bathtub of the toilet.
We had a little residuals in there, but for the most part, ours worked.
You said it happened in 2008?
2008, memorial digging.
So we're just kind of talking about that.
Obviously public works has made a lot of changes since 2008, and has a lot of additional equipment to deal with the situations that are still ongoing.
losing power to our listations is not uncommon and that's why the promotion of the generators
and portable generators that they now have on their system is help significantly to reduce
that time when they're not able to keep up with pumping stuff when we lose power.
You know, just though in the last two years, the coming times of last public works to go
deal with in a situation because we've lost power.
Now they'll have the ability to put a portable generator there and hook it up and pump it
while they can go to you with other stuff instead of having it with a back truck and suck it
all out and then go haul somewhere and dump it.
Maybe to the next listation that actually has power and town dump it in there and then run back.
Now they can just set a portable generator up there to deal with it.
If the problem was beyond that, where is it going to be pumped to?
That's part of the strategy public works is developed, well, I mean, there probably wasn't much of a plan in 2008.
Let's be honest.
Well, there's, well, I've just shy of 50 listings in town, 46.
So, I mean, that's an astronomical number to be tackled.
So, my understanding is there's nothing in this project that's going to prohibit future solving these issues.
If anything is going to set you up, you have generator access.
easier to get a generator to it, correct?
So the government generators can get down to you guys faster there.
Well, a generator is only going to help if there's something for it.
What's some place for that to be pumped to?
What I'm talking about is say, lift station 11 is down.
You can't put a generator on there to pump it down to that.
Because there's nowhere to go.
There's obviously a series, he's on the way into the series of illustrations.
And with our awesome improvements that have happened since 2008,
have put some generators on some of those going around this north side of Lake,
because everything here pumps up north comes all the way back.
Tassakwa until it gets to the one main station that comes then south underneath the Lake.
So since 2008, nine years have been some improvements that have included generators,
But, you know, public works is looked at this and studied how they're going to strategically place this stuff and, you know, they've got that incorporated in this big project, right?
And in 2022, planning to come with another project like we've talked about on the CIP planning, and that'll include some more generator work as well.
So, they made a huge steps on how to deal with emergency situations.
I agree.
We're not going to change the power of our attention to Excel does something differently,
but we are way more set up in public works that I think is the view of these situations
and unfaster.
Well, and the controls have their own telemetry, and there's way more technology in the control
panels.
Some of these control panels out here and they came to touch them and they're getting shot.
Standardizing it.
Everything's right now sitting to the phones.
2008 you didn't have that.
I agree.
But you're talking about electric failure.
I'm talking about what up for there is a pipe that breaks.
You can't pump it through that area.
So it's back in our area.
And the power is still in our area.
That's where it is.
The pipes were put in too shallow.
And so once there's no place for it to be pumped to,
then it has to have plenty of retention.
And otherwise, if the repair isn't made further down, it doesn't matter how much electricity,
how much backup electricity, how many generators you have, there's no word to have a pump
to.
And that's what happened one time also.
I think everybody's, everybody that's on the system was in that same scenario.
There is no plan B if it's a pipe breaks.
Well, yeah, there actually is.
They do come, like you were talking to, they come to the lift stations and they pump out.
Right, they have to pump out.
And that's great.
And that's what happened in 2008.
They forgot about us.
So yeah, I think so.
But I think the crew does a fantastic job as long as they're up to date.
And what are the main problems, aren't?
Well, this should improve that too. So, it should reduce those potentials anyway.
Well, the warnings are quicker. They know about it soon.
You know? So, there can be more done. I don't see this as a roadblock to anything.
That could be done down the future. Typically, more storage is inadequate, I think, I don't agree.
to put a listation in, because you only go down so far anyway.
So you're not going any deeper with your wet well.
And you sounds like you guys don't want any wider.
So at this point in time, I think that would put the project.
Yeah, that's another key question, too.
Is if the access would be able to get down there
to work on our wells and to work on everything else,
if that is not going to block the access.
The plan showed to remove and replace the by-two
this in the same area. So the new pavement matches the existing pavement. Okay, but the
live station. Well,
if there's some way to get a drawing of where it's going to be in
how it's going to be a true would help. That's what I requested a couple of weeks ago. Thank you.
touch basically after the meeting and then you know if this is a provenance we
certainly can meet out in the field and put some states to show you
physically to work everything would be looking like thank you
all right thank you so look for a motion or any further discussion in the
live station change order
well right at first you were asking to have a table that you want to continue with
how do you want to
place a table that if we wanted for the
I just wanted to make sure I didn't have issues
leaving tonight's meeting that might have changed
something, but I think we've addressed them.
Find a different than that, so it's.
Find more building the garage, various stuff like that,
and then getting that plate on the garage.
I'm wondering if you see what's going to happen.
I don't do any planning either, because I'm on the door
that other than it's going to happen.
So I'm not in which place in your driveway
to the grab vehicle green here.
There are a lot of them in four, nine, five, just a little here.
They run parallel, and that one actually caused the horsepower, because more aim while
we came once stated, it's four and five degree.
And you want to build a garage with that white, air yellow, force main goes, right?
Yes.
Four of this existing now, and then we'll go on.
Yeah.
So all the years should I believe?
Yes.
Yep.
I don't know.
One thing is the one when I'll make a motion to approve the change order.
Over the second.
I'll second with a request that's there.
Coordinator members just have this done.
We'll do one.
We'll coordinate both stations and still have this week.
All right.
Motion a second.
Any further discussion?
Here you go.
All those in favor?
Aye.
Opposed?
Motion carries.
All right.
Seven am.
Eight side.
Who are the invoices?
Any question?
We have two of these.
I'll second.
I'll second. Motion is second. All those of favour?
Aye. Both abstain and one abstain.
Mr. Mayor, I make motion that we pay to when it supply invoices?
Second.
All those of favour? Aye.
Aye.
And one abstain.
All right, staff updates.
Donovan, let's start with you.
Well, the plan commission,
At the last meeting discussed the conference of right away ordinance, and they seek more information
more clarity around some of the issues.
As well as the facilities and residential areas, so I'll go back to my commission and have you take any questions?
Yeah.
I have nothing unless you have something for me.
Could the chief?
Is the third restriction still out?
We've got green up in the yards or green when you get into the cat-tellant swamp areas.
We're still fairly browned out of expect in the next couple of weeks as long as we get in rain.
Like we're getting today that the burn restrictions will come off.
Yeah, Mr. Mayor and City Council members, I have a few items for you here.
Washington County Sheriff's Office will be rolling out their new records management system called
Tritac on May 22nd. So it's been long awaited and we've had some extensive trial runs the past few months,
months which I've been going really well. And I know you'd be interested in this one training has been offered for
businesses that sell alcohol into back up products in Washington County. A flyer describing the training was
able to all businesses that sell tobacco and alcohol products on April 30th, and the training
is being provided by the Washington County Sheriff's Office in Washington County Department
of Public Health and Environment, and that training is going to occur in late May or early
June.
The training that's going to occur here in Forest Lake is going to be at the Headquarters
Service Center on May 21 from three to four PM in businesses and personnel are encouraged
to pre-register for that event, and there are other dates available in June in Cottage Grove
and Stillwater as well if they can't make that one. And then lastly, we're working the police department
is working hard along with Parks Department, Fire Department, Public Works to set up events where
police will be present, the summer, including Arts in the Park, Forest Lake Safety Camp, July 4,
celebration, and many other outdoor events as well, and we're all looking forward to that.
Do you have any questions for me?
The only question I have chief is the training programs are the those businesses being notified.
Yes, yep, by the way.
I'm sort of writing.
By letter.
Yes, yes, yes.
By letter they were mailed actually the flyers each business in all Washington County.
And for our purposes to every force lake business that sells tobacco and alcohol.
Thank you.
So if we had some issues with the ESACs earlier this year, and part of the requirements was to
implement some new software to verify ID, verify ages, do you know if that's been installed
at those business?
Bailey and I have, do you mind if I've revert to you because I know you reached out to
a couple of the businesses?
particular the ones that we had, some not compliance issues with this year. I did go into the businesses
but at the date that they were required to have them. They have them, not sure if they're using them, but they have them.
Okay.
Have we done any follow-up compliance checks at any of those? At this point we have not.
But just to let you know, you know, we really did see an abundance and increase of those
easings being confiscated by, you know, kids having them at schools and out in public and
things like that.
It seems like it's subsided a little bit.
We're still coming across them, but boy, I tell you a few months ago, it was much different.
So maybe something has happened positive, I don't know if it was the enforcement, the word
got out, but we're hoping that it continues that way and that trend continues through the summer.
All right.
Thank you.
Any further questions for the chief?
Bailey.
Nothing for me.
Thank you.
All right.
Dan?
A couple of quick updates.
First, you may see a couple of new faces in the front office staff.
We have some seasonal office systems.
We're going to be starting one start to believe next week and another one starts to be
after my Royal Day, plus they've had to be starting.
So there'll be some new staff up there.
A couple of the seasonals will be there
trying to help answer phones.
It's kind of direct counter traffic.
And they're also going to help with some of the communication
efforts that have just been lagging behind
as kind of shifted priorities recently.
So the communication apparatus we have
while one of the seasonals is actually looking
at potentially going into marketing and communication.
So we're kind of tailoring some nice projects
for her to take on as well.
A couple of, two Fridays ago, I attended the real estate land development
journals conference in spoke on a panel on land development was told
a bit of a pair of four questions and they asked me only one of the four or
three were completely out of left field so I had to do my best to add
lived as possible. I apparently didn't do too bad because a couple of
developers afterwards had come up and asked to kind of, they were wanted to
have some meetings to come out and just kind of take a look at four
like it's a lot of productive contact from aid at that conference.
There's a lot of, it was nice to hear from a developers perspective what they're looking
for in-land development on both the residential and the commercial side and kind of seeing
where they're focusing their efforts at this point.
So, a lot of good information was ahead of that conference.
Talk to the Mercer Group last week, he was working on financing the first draft of the position
description and job profile for the administrative
recruitment should hopefully have that ready to go for
council review at the council workshop next Monday.
It doesn't need to be formally approved so he's kind of looking at
put it out as part of the workshop if you have substantial changes you want
made to that like him know and find a finalized it so we can get that
recruitment those documents posted. On your radar screen as well we're
also kind of starting up kind of gearing out for budget season here so
of anything that's we're kind of wanting to kind of make sure that's, you know, in court
include included in the 2019 budget. I'm kind of piping it up at a future workshop
and that initial conversation, but the process is going to be fairly similar to what we did
in past years, where it's proud for it in August. The finance committee will see it in July
and we'll do the four meetings again in August. So I did meet with eight and last week
and kind of set a rough schedule to look at that release out the council as well. But kind of
As we kind of tee into that, probably asked for any kind of initial, you know, guidelines
for what you guys were looking for in a budget for 19, so we can start to kind of work
to get those budget or a child's productive as possible on an August.
And then, at the airport commission meeting, we also kind of kind of started a course for
the legal review of airport commission in City Council.
There's been a lot of kind of muddy in the water, which is possible for what?
So I'm going to work with Bridget here to kind of develop a work plan to find out what the source documents are for the upper commission to kind of see how that group functions and contacts with city council to kind of say
If least agreements come forward, what is the proper path for all of that. So everybody's on the same page. So it kind of hopefully clear the area there and kind of church
Pre-specific guidelines for words and kind of lives and warehouses at the upper commission. So I want that. I'm happy to answer your questions.
May I have any questions for Dan?
Thank you, Dan.
Bridget.
Thank you.
I don't know what thanks to me at this time.
I want to thank you for your work.
It's compared to the other communities we've had over the years.
I think, you know, you spot on and, you know, pre-emptive versus us having to
wait for things or postpone things and meetings.
So, I wanted to point that out.
That's what I've ever had.
There you go.
All right.
Right.
Mayor of City Council, there are a few things that stopped a young tomorrow.
I'm attending a meeting with a product representative of the Hornsby Street alignment.
I got a kick-off meeting at an Oca County and kind of related to that.
Probably a reminder in conjunction with Mendoza 35 design build project and work on
Drunk 997 and the upcoming 2019 Hornsby Street Realignment Project.
It's a Columbus project.
The city of Columbus will be closing horns
B Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday,
Monday, Monday, Monday, Thursday.
That'll be closed through the rest of 2018,
and a majority of 2019.
So, another closing at north of 97, correct?
Yep, right at the border there.
There's a kind of a turnaround that's still left
if you did venture to honor and you could pull
and turn around.
It will be properly signed all the way up to county row
32 or 11th Avenue.
So, that would not be a surprise for somebody
to get all the way down there to find out it's closed.
Will still have access to the boat ramp from 11th?
Yep, okay.
Tomorrow morning, also there's a pre-construction meeting for the NOCA
ahead of Penn Credit Union in our last all-out here,
so I'll say about that in the summary, a little bit of a little in there.
Wednesday night, I'm presenting at the Fair Lake Association
and your meeting just basically talk about the construction projects
that are ongoing around their lake and planning
with the Washington County's projects, and then our street project will have the pre-construction
meeting Thursday. Just an update in the quarters or commerce. No applications within Washington
County were successful or Shesagro County, basically they awarded the work to the southwest
metro area. So that was, again, that application that applied to Highway 97 between
I had 35 and Trunk I was 61, but I wasn't successful at this time.
I think I hit briefly earlier on the bidding threshold, so as August 1st we'll have the
ability to do cool projects out to 175,000 certainly that saves money for the city on
plants and specks.
You don't have to go through the full state bid process here, so you can just do cool projects.
And I think that's all I have.
Oh, one of the eight that was good to see.
Remember when we did that joint project with Rice Creek,
we had funding for that water drain towel down 61
that's relieved the water out between the Morris McCollough.
They were farming it this week.
I think Susan is done.
Was that the one?
That's one of the things.
It's gone.
Question for you, Ryan.
you were looking into getting some of the regret.
Are you coming off to that 35 project?
I have been and currently they're using what material they're bringing off there onto some subgrading
improvements that they got. However, they know that if they have access, we are the first
people to be called. I tend these meetings that they're out and I ask them every time
even though they know that nothing's probably changed in a week, but I'll be part of the next
So we want to get as much of that material as we can because you can see how much cheaper we're able to do maintenance on gravel road projects with that so maybe we should reach out to Columbus too, but I just haven't to think about it today with the Highway 97 bridge when they rebuild that.
I don't know what landscape package Columbus or no counties picked out, but it would be great opportunity, especially with the design build to be able to
unify that a little bit and maybe incorporate components of force like Anne Columbus into a kind of a welcome and some signage along there.
I think we could probably achieve that a lot of chief
from trying to work through Minda on that.
So I'll find out what we're going to do
of incorporating the project to dates.
If it's not to the level of the RCD member,
they do have the landscape partnership program.
Do we have like plantings that we
successfully twice up at Broadway in the ramp area?
So there are two of these down the road,
but certainly we'll try to incorporate
what we could with the design go.
All right.
Thank you, Ryan.
Any other questions for Ryan?
I think that was on staff.
So then, seeing updates.
I spent some time with the Legion here this past weekend.
They had a hero dance there for the kids on Saturday night.
And as a matter of kids that are less than 18 years old,
they can invite their hero to go dancing.
And there's food and all that kind of stuff.
And I'm nobody's hero, okay?
But we took the grandkids or any hall, and they had a riot.
It was just, it was a lot of fun.
They were, it was music and dancing, and then they
get to learn a little bit about the veterans and the kind
of thing, what it's all about.
So it was a really good time.
And, of course, the next day, then, be in that,
I missed out on opening and fishing.
I'm still polting about that.
But anyways, we went to the mother's day,
lunch, and they had it on Sunday at least.
It was very, very good.
Well attended, lots and lots of food, and so that was pretty much what I did last couple of weeks.
Except for surgery in.
Look at the crunches behind you, I didn't want that how much dancing you were doing.
There was no dancing. I was strictly an observer. I was just strictly an observer.
All right. Yeah.
I got nothing new ever than the attend of the airport commission the last one.
That seems to be contract and that commission is going much better than in the past and hopefully it continues like that.
Other than that, everything we talked about is already been talked about tonight.
All right, nice to hear.
I do want to bring up one thing in Dan, maybe you want to bring it forward to the airport commission,
but I think we have an opportunity right now to discuss maybe banning parachuting.
shooting, it was a source of a lot of complaints when it was there, and I think we'd like
to open up that discussion in a way whether airport commission chooses to do that or not.
That was by far the most complaints for noise and things that were happening out there.
move on to a few things for me. We reached out for the Highway 8 task force. There are
doing a lot of things up in Chicago County trying to secure funding and improve Highway 8.
I'd like the City of Forest Lake to be involved with that. Unfortunately, we're all from
the start, but it's time for us to get involved with that. They have a meeting coming up next
week, same time as our council meeting unfortunately, so Ryan's going to look to see if he
can attend that, but if not definitely in the future I'd like to have somebody involved
in that and try to advocate for that as well. I think it'll benefit our community as much as
anybody's. I attended the senior center last week. They're thrilled with the improvements that
coming down the line for them, getting them some new doors on the front of the building.
And we're also reaching out to Washington County for a grant to get a new dishwasher there.
So I think there's a great possibility we're going to get that taken care of without costing us any money.
I'll just check if they're best going.
phenomenal there.
That's next and I was going to just touch on.
But kind of a soft start on that.
We haven't really done any advertising or anything,
and ridership has been extremely, extremely good on that,
and, you know, to the point of pushing capacity sometimes on it.
So that's turned out well, it's a limited trial,
but I think definitely they've been waiting years
to get something like this, and a very reasonable start
for that.
So I want to thank the EDA, which rolls me into the next one.
Since it was their project, we had the EDA meeting
just before Council tonight, working on some projects there, trying to promote bi-local,
as well as looking at some new events in the Fourth of July and working with the Legion
to build that up.
I think there's some excitement for that as well as a couple of other projects that they're
working on.
In my spare time, I've also reached out to Senator Klobuchar and to our representative
department, both to advocate for the 180th Street in the freeway exchange.
Do have a meeting coming up with Senator Klobuchar's transportation people.
And so I'm going to go down a couple different routes to see where we can get this happening
Hopefully, I'm going to be meeting Ryan and their transportation people as well and a couple of days to go through
Looking at the studies and things that need to be done, the groundwork before we can make the rest of it happen.
So quite a bit happening there. Hopefully, it all comes to you something anyway.
in their possibility, even at Councilman,
when I get interested in that access with their bus for them?
For the seniors in that, or the access to freeway?
I think there is, but more than anything is finding out
just logic, is the logic there for it?
I believe there is.
The traffic numbers aren't there yet,
but they're not there because there's no road there.
And so, you know, what comes first, but as far as economic gains for forced lake for Columbus for the whole area,
I think it would be huge.
And, you know, it's a future vision.
We've got farm fields out there that, you know, could be businesses.
And it could be a huge tax base for forced lake.
I want to thank you, he pointed out an article in the paper that U.S. Army is looking
for a research headquarters with over 500 employees, and we are now on the list for that.
And we're going to be pushing hard for that.
We'll be sending a couple letters off to the State of Minnesota to the Department of Economic
Development, and that to both of us like to make sure that we're on the short list
that as well. So, hopefully, hopefully Minnesota is strong in the running for an opportunity
like that, but we get a couple of few businesses in the area that are major suppliers
to the US Army. So, I think there's a great tie in. So, hopefully, we'll see some progress on
that land as well. So, I think that's when I think that covers most of what I had. So,
I have a statement that the fire board yet that's coming up.
Parks and Wales, parks, trails and lakes commission.
I was going to move forward with getting the playground
at Lake City Memorial Park Inspector.
First, I'm sure it's safety, and it's still compliant
after the shipping exit place there.
And secondly, to seek professional recommendation,
how to proceed with repairs on it.
I think the mayor for the appointment for the commission.
That is all.
All right.
Thank you.
A couple of quick things.
A couple of commission met last week Wednesday.
Scandy as departure is indicated.
They indicated over a year ago that they were planning to leave that date as June 30th.
All indications are that that is still their plan.
So that likely will bring forward some action to our council for revision of the Joint
agreement and we're resetting the deck for what life looks like with a two city
commission or a three city commission. Columbus we also gave final approval to
the Columbus Sun system within their city center and that had been on the
capital improvement list for quite some time so good to get that kicked free. I also
noted that on that capital improvement plan is still the reimbursement of the
like for our city center for our equipment. So we should also be seeing that yet this year.
Floor hosted their annual volunteer day out at Fenway Field, May 6th. So it was good to see
you have volunteer out there. Things to everyone who participated did some painting that some
grounds work, maintenance, good to see the volunteers in out there. Also YMCA, just good reminder
of that there are community access hours available to all force like residents as part of our
But especially as you started to think about summer and schools getting out the splash pad will be opening up in our community hours available for the gym
as well as the splash pad and the community room at no cost of horse-like residents so
I'm going to take a couple more minutes here because I've got a couple of issues with a couple of people and
normally it would never do this, but we have a planning commission
commission in here at Linus
But it took some time, I believe, up here at the planning commission to call me out about my
boat.
I just, it bothers me a lot to do that if you want to do it on your own time, it's one
thing.
But when the information are up here and then to put that on the internet and put it on your
on websites is just it's wrong it was a cheap shot I know Eric's upset because I did not
appoint him for city council but to say this was about the vote to the treatment facility
no I I have a lot of issues with that Eric himself at the next planning commission
water against an amendment for Aqua, which is another business, and I don't know how many
other times that you can say you support businesses, but whether it's a sell tower that
he goes against, even though that's on a landowner, landowner rights, but to do this and
call me out for that and not, you know, have me present to be able to respond or do anything
else, I think, is wrong. And that brings me to the other one, Mar. And that's yours.
Saying that I support a junkyard on the 33 acres of land when he put there is wrong, because
I never did support that. You made the correction, so I will acknowledge that. But you
came out and said that I supported the business on that piece of property. And that's not
case. I do support businesses and businesses like that are neat. I understand that. But I never
supported it on that piece of land. I just think it's worth it. I want to make sure I understand
you didn't support it on the highway 97 tract of land. I never did.
You said some other
things on there to me to blame those things that's been deleted. I just expect a little more
I think you mentioned that you needed to go get a lobotomy after the meeting that I pointed plain.
That was on my personal page.
That wasn't on a city console.
I think we need a little level of decorum here.
And for the most part, I think we do a pretty good job of that.
But we do cross line every now and then.
So a little bit of reminder.
And I hope we can go into the future
where there's some decor in many ways.
All right, yeah.
I think I'd like to add to that as I read the comments
on Facebook, read the article that was written in the low-down
about that you prefer a young character
over a mental health facility.
And that you went on a record and voted on that.
We were to work out, everybody knows we don't vote
workshop, there was no vote. Everybody knows that if you read the minutes of that workshop,
that comment was never made, that he preferred a junkyard over a mental health facility.
Yes, never. And yet it's appearing in print as though it's gospel and that's wrong.
But it is true that there was support indicated for zoning change for the, let's call it a
of the Jard, and internet based on the Jard.
There was support indicated for...
No, not our...
The only person that brought that forward was
down of him wanted to come up with an ordinance
to make it more difficult for those types of businesses to locate.
And Ben's response was, he would not be in favor
of making an ordinance that would affect dealerships
that we already have.
That was the discussion that I recall in that workshop.
There was never until-
Lude that he preferred a junkyard over the mental health facility. When the mental health facility wasn't even mentioned that at workshop.
That was totally wrong.
Thank you Ed.
Let me say that.
If you ever need to clarify something, feel free to contact me on that.
Thank you, record, just clear.
Look for a motion to adjourn.
Second.
All those in favor?
Aye.
you need to get in.