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March 2nd the question.

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more than a minute, but

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You need to approve the chain folder.

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We we

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is progress.

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[laughter] Just text me.

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[laughter]

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It was only going to take three
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I'll know where to vote.

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just caught on. It only took three
weeks.

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I said, we're going to dredge,

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we're going to

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Our Army Corps of Engineers,

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We need to approve the chain for
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probably going to go

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I hope the only people who want to
trust the damage.

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Right.

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Okay. Angela.

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She's running the beach.

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Hi.

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she's running.

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Yes.

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I didn't see you coming.

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Yes.

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because if he gets to

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this, this may be one of the this

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because I

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going to just this, this

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This.

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Oh, just

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let's go.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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It's a complicated figure.

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Yeah.

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You want to use a shovel or what
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[laughter]

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It's not.

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Hi.

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You know why?

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It's going to take it out of

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Yeah, I the other.

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This one's good, this one's

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I didn't put it in here.

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Oh.

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I didn't you want to do it.

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I didn't really know.

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Just come on.

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And the sign along is

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signing along is

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Oh, my goodness.

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back, yeah.

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Yeah, back issues are bad. I
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So, yeah, no, I understand.

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I got myself back once a month.

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I don't give a damn.

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I have to call it.

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I think so.

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you go for

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I go to

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I go to wonder.

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Okay.

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Right.

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here for that too.

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I go to

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across the street.

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You seen him? Arlington.

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I could not you see what I'm saying?

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I could, I have to.

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All right.

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Okay, it's 5:30.

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I'll need to order.

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We'll freeze down for the pledge of
allegiance and a blessing by Pastor
Jan.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of
the United States of America.

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And to the Republic for which it
stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all.

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Gracious Lord, we again thank you

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for this wonderful community

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and for all those who work to make it
this way.

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Those who organized such events as
the Rodeo, the Mexican Fiesta,

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those who make choices, decisions,
and those who work to make them

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enjoyable, safe, and successful.

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Lord, we ask that you protect all who
work on our streets,

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in our cemeteries, in all other jobs
from the effects of this heat.

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We ask that you guide us and lead us
tonight.

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Amen.

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[chatter] All right, Justin.

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[chatter] you can go.

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Yeah.

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Council member Sparrow.

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Here.

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Duly.

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Here.

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Jaeger.

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Here.

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Emmet.

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Here.

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All right, the first item on the
agenda is a proclamation

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for National Assisted Living Week,

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which is September the 13th to the
18th.

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So, whereas National Assisted Living
Week is observed

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each year to celebrate the
individuals who call

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assisted living communities home,

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and to honor the dedicated
professionals who serve them

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with compassion, respect, and
unwavering commitment.

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And whereas, assisted living
communities throughout Fort Madison

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provide welcoming homes where
residents can receive quality care,

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build meaningful relationships and
continue to participate in

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and contribute to our community.

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And whereas, the residents of
assisted living communities

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enrich Fort Madison with a lifetime
of wisdom, experiences,

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stories, and contributions,

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and deserve to be recognized and
celebrated for

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the important role they continue to
play in our community.

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And whereas, caregivers, staff,
administrators

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and volunteers in assisted living
communities

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demonstrate every day their
commitment to providing support,

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companionship, dignity, and
compassionate care to those they
serve.

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And whereas, the 2026 National
Assisted Living Week theme,

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Shining through the years, celebrates
the enduring light,

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strength, and wisdom of assisted
living residents and recognizes

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the caring professionals who support
them each day.

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And where.

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as National Assisted Living Week

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provides an opportunity for our
community to express appreciation

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for the residents, families,

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caregivers, staff, and volunteers who
make assisted living communities

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places of connection, compassion and
home.

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Now, therefore, be it proclaimed

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that I, Melinda Blind, mayor of the
city of Fort Madison, Iowa,

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do hereby proclaim September the 13th
through the 19th, 2026,

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as National Assisted Living Week in
Fort Madison.

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and encourage all residents to join
in recognizing and celebrating

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the residents, families, caregivers,
staff, and volunteers of our local
assisted living communities

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for the important role they play in
our community.

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We have a representative fromwood
Village here

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to receive a proclamation.

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So, I'm going to go ahead and say
thank you for all you do. My mother
was assisted living for seven years,

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so I know what you guys do.

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There's the and do you have two for
cheering?

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I choose. Yes.

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All right.

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okay? And introduce yourself.

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Do you want to get a photo, Melinda?

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Oh, yeah, that'd be good. I kinda
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We have photographers over here.

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True. I didn't think about it.

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I was trying to get this to Okay.

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I will admit it. Okay. Okay.

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doesn't take pictures unless asked to
have a change of order.

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justified.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Okay. Okay.

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Well, good evening.

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My name is Brenda Graham. I serve as
the director of assisted living and
memory care at Burwood Village.

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So, thank you for taking the time to
let me address the crowd a little
bit.

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Um, I'm here not to only introduce
Burwood Village,

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but part of our celebration of the
upcoming National Assisted Living
Week.

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Uh, Burwood Village is actually
unique in our community that we offer
a full continuum of care,

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that includes independent living,
assisted living, memory care,

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skilled nursing, long-term care, and
ventilator care.

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So, everything we do is guided by one
simple mission,

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providing personalized care while
fostering lasting relationships.

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This mission is carried out every
single day by the nearly

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150 employees who work on our campus.

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I think that's something that most
people are not aware of in our
community,

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how large and what a big employer we
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Um, that includes caregivers, nurses,
respiratory therapists,

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dietary and housekeeping staff,
activities coordinators, and
administrative team members

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who show up for our residents and
their families.

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We're excited to celebrate our
assisted living community in
particular during National Assisted
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from September 13th through the 19th.

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It's a week set aside to recognize
our residents, to celebrate their
stories

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and to honor the caregivers and staff
who support them with skill and
compassion every day.

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At Burwood Village, we in particular,
besides our normal routine of
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have two special events planned to
mark the week.

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On Monday, September 14th, we're
hosting a rise and shine breakfast

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for our residents and their families
and special guests.

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And on Thursday, September 17th,
we're holding our assisted living

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shining star staff appreciation
party.

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our chance to say thank you to the
team members

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who make Burwood Village so special.

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And I do want to recognize that
Burwood Village is not alone in this
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Fort Madison is fortunate to have two
other assisted living communities

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caring for seniors as well.

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National Assisted Living Week is a
moment for all of us in this field
across our whole community

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to shine a light on the value of of
quality senior care.

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Thank you again for your time and for
your continued support

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of senior care in Fort Madison.

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Thank you very much.

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All right. So now we're going to get
back on track with the schedule a
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and we are going to do visitors and
appearance requests.

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Is there anyone in the audience who
wishes to address the council

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on an item that is not on the agenda?

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Yes.

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All right, sir. If you'll come up and
identify yourself.

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Give your name and address, please.

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Yes, my name is Randy Strebach.

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I live at 3036 Avenue E, Fort
Madison, Iowa.

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Um, I'm here tonight.

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I got a uh certified

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letter in the mail by having a boat
poked to my

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poked to my yard, my front yard,
which is fine.

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I understand it's against City Code.

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But is what it happened on August
19th. I got the letter.

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And mayor, nice to meet you. I've
never met you.

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I live next to you for 30 years.

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Never met you. I I remember I
remember I remember you when you were
much younger.

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[laughter]

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Yeah. A lot younger. About 30 years
younger.

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Mhm.

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And that that situation's been
addressed.

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But now is it just one neighbor

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or is it city code violation for all
neighbors.

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Because

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I have a city code violation here.

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That's another one in your name.

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Okay.

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That I think's your friend.

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That's been the same, that the
issue's been there since I got my
certified letter.

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But his isn't addressed yet. I can
guess, can I pass these out?

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Um, yes, you can pass it out. We, we
can address anything.

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That's fine.

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Um, I would suggest that you contact,
have, have you talked to Officer
Judd?

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I talked to him, yes.

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Okay.

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Not about this issue.

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Okay.

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I'm talking about the bow dish.

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Okay.

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Which I got to get changed. I'm going
to try to get that issue changed.

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Okay.

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But what it goes that far or not.

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Okay.

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But so I got to talk to him first
about this issue?

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He or um, Chief, can you can you
assist this gentleman um after the
meeting?

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Absolutely.

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What time is your meeting over,
usually?

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Oh, when he gets over.

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No, I get that. I get that.

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I'll step outside.

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Okay.

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Thank you, Cody, I appreciate that.

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Thank you. All right, sir. Thank you.

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[squeaking]

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Hey, is there anyone else who has
anything that they wish to talk
about?

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Okay.

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So now we are going to move on to the
consent agenda. Um, looking for a
motion and a second to approve the
consent agenda.

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Eger moves.

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Emmet 2.

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Okay, under the uh consent agenda are
the minutes of August the 18th.

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alcohol license amendment for Holy
Trinity Catholic Schools,

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uh, August the 26th claims, library
claims

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and payroll of August the 23rd, 2026.

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Any questions?

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Okay. Justina.

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Council member Telly.

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Yes.

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Jager?

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Yes.

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Roller?

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Yes.

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Emmet?

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Yes.

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Spiro?

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Yes.

267
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Okay, we have enough people here
right now, so we are going to,

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we were a little worried that we may
need to move item number two further
on down the line. Um, but sorry.

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We got we got Angela here.

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Okay, we're good.

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So, we're good.

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and your ordinances and resolutions,

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item number two, looking for a motion
and a second to approve the third and
final reading

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of an ordinance repealing and
replacing title three, chapter five,
housing code

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of the Fort Madison City Code.

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Earl moves.

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Yager 2.

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Okay, um, since the last meeting, um,
Matt Emmet had a

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we didn't talk about it the last
meeting because you had just received
it.

280
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Sure.

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And so now everybody has looked at
it.

282
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So I guess I'm going to kind of turn
in

283
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I'm going to officially make a motion
to amend with that. I hope everybody

284
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had a chance to read it. I think Pat
talked about that it doesn't

285
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remove the um, you know, the city
side is in uh in compliance

286
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with what we're trying to do.

287
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I I just think that it's uh it's a
little bit less threatening

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than just the the normal language and
and goes to, you know, demonstrate

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that we are attempting to protect
people's privacy.

290
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Um, I think everybody's read it. I
don't know if I have to read it in
here if uh how that works.

291
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Um, I I mean, I will just uh, I I
mean, I'll be honest that

292
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you know, uh

293
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I I'm not going to make a big, but
uh, you know, Pat did state that
while he doesn't think it's
necessary,

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and you know, my opinion's different
on it, but uh,

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his comments were expressly
recognizes a tenant's right to refuse
the warrantless entries.

296
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protects privacy interest without
penalizing.

297
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Uh, retains judicial oversight before
entry occurs, avoids creating a class

298
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of units that um are not receiving
regular inspections and remains

299
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consistent with the ordinance stated
proposals. So,

300
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it's no risk to the proposal

301
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but gives a a a little bit of
guidance to a renter what their their
rights are.

302
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and I think that's important. So,
that's that's all I have to say.

303
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So, I have a question, Council member
Emmett.

304
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Are you wanting to amend section
3-58, Section A, I mean, paragraph A?

305
00:14:22,772 --> 00:14:26,912
Yeah, I think the 8 and then the
amendment to 3511.

306
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I believe that's what Pat intended
when providing the language for this.

307
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I don't want to speak for him. I I'm
sure he's he's here but

308
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it was my understanding that that was
the language that he provided for me
if I wanted to.

309
00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:40,347
Sure. So,

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this evening we actually have um Dan
Morgan filling in for Pat. Pat took a
vacation,

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which is good for Pat.

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And so Dan is filling in um tonight
as a part of our meeting, especially
this portion.

313
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Um, Dan, is there anything you wanted
to add? I know Pat will do you in on
this.

314
00:15:00,553 --> 00:15:01,879
No, I think

315
00:15:02,032 --> 00:15:05,008
I think Councilman Emmett has summed
up pretty well.

316
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that was the email that Pat shared
with the changes to the

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proposed changes to sections 3-5-8 A8
and then section

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3-5-11, uh, were to have kind of a
middle ground, I think with

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the councilman's uh concerns, as as
the councilman indicated,

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I don't necessarily uh to to
necessarily outline what is

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already provided for by the
Constitution or the code of

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However, uh, if that is something the
council wants to consider at

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least kind of putting writers, I
suppose, on notice of those rights

324
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to a certain extent. Uh, that is what
Pat was proposing for those

325
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changes to uh A8 and then C. Okay,
uh, is there any discussion

326
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by any council members or do you just
want to vote on the amendment?

327
00:16:00,943 --> 00:16:04,016
I'd answer any question anybody has.
If not, I prefer a vote.

328
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motion in second.

329
00:16:06,214 --> 00:16:07,310
Oh, there was no second to that?

330
00:16:07,377 --> 00:16:10,361
No second. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't
catch that.

331
00:16:10,430 --> 00:16:12,449
Oh, oh, you have a comment.

332
00:16:12,797 --> 00:16:18,896
just public it, has the amendment
been read into the record or is the

333
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public have access to the amendment.
Why don't we read the amendment?

334
00:16:20,524 --> 00:16:24,015
Do you want to read the amendment?
read the amendment into the record?

335
00:16:25,502 --> 00:16:30,716
Uh, suggested amendment um 3-5-8A. A
consent to inspection,

336
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the owner or occupant may refuse
consent to routine inspection.

337
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Refusal of consent shall not
constitute a violation of this

338
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chapter and shall not by itself
result in penalties against the

339
00:16:44,924 --> 00:16:51,886
owner or the occupant. In cases where
consent is withheld, the city

340
00:16:53,139 --> 00:16:59,089
may seek an administrative inspection
warrant or other lawful process

341
00:16:59,156 --> 00:17:03,932
authorized by law. Nothing in this
subsection shall be construed to

342
00:17:03,999 --> 00:17:05,951
exempt any rental housing unit from
the city's rental inspection

343
00:17:06,018 --> 00:17:09,531
program or from the inspection
pursuant to any lawful issued
warrant.

344
00:17:09,598 --> 00:17:16,005
Uh 2A. I'm sorry for that. Uh,
suggested amendment 3-5-11. Uh,

345
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Occupant privacy protections, no
occupant shall be required to

346
00:17:20,826 --> 00:17:25,124
consent to a warrantless inspection.
Refusal of consent shall not be

347
00:17:25,191 --> 00:17:31,529
considered evidence of code
violation. Um, these were numbered
one, two,

348
00:17:31,596 --> 00:17:34,473
three and four on this last one. Uh,
so number three, when access is

349
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denied, the city shall pursue
inspection through a lawful

350
00:17:42,058 --> 00:17:44,746
administrative warrant procedures
when inspection remains necessary.

351
00:17:44,813 --> 00:17:47,846
Number four, nothing in this section
shall be interpreted to

352
00:17:47,913 --> 00:17:51,306
remove a rental housing unit from the
city's program or routine rental

353
00:17:51,373 --> 00:17:57,313
inspections. All right then. Thank
you, check. I appreciate that. Um,

354
00:17:57,380 --> 00:18:01,779
we need a second or not. Uh, I guess
once it's said owner in there,

355
00:18:01,846 --> 00:18:05,050
I don't know, but I can second it. I
wouldn't want to not, but uh,

356
00:18:05,117 --> 00:18:07,785
I'll second the amendment. Motion for
the amendment. Okay, so we have

357
00:18:07,852 --> 00:18:09,048
a motion and a second.

358
00:18:09,115 --> 00:18:11,226
So, are we ready to vote?

359
00:18:11,293 --> 00:18:12,738
Okay. Justina.

360
00:18:12,805 --> 00:18:14,466
Council member Jaeger. No.

361
00:18:15,072 --> 00:18:16,435
Roller? No.

362
00:18:16,872 --> 00:18:18,198
Emmet? Yes.

363
00:18:18,633 --> 00:18:20,035
Sparrow? No.

364
00:18:20,532 --> 00:18:22,004
Tealey. Abstain.

365
00:18:26,022 --> 00:18:31,663
Now, we are back to the original
reading of the ordinance.

366
00:18:31,730 --> 00:18:36,864
Is there anyone, is there any further
discussion on that? Is there anyone

367
00:18:36,931 --> 00:18:43,893
in the audience who would like to say
anything? All right. In that case,

368
00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:53,082
are we ready to vote? something
there. I was going to ask, Matt, do
you want

369
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to wait until we have the additional
council members before we move
forward

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00:19:03,625 --> 00:19:05,825
on this? Okay, Justina. Council
member Tealey. Abstain due to this

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regulates my business. Jaeger? Yes.

372
00:19:08,179 --> 00:19:09,505
Roller? Yes.

373
00:19:09,621 --> 00:19:10,768
Emmet? No.

374
00:19:10,835 --> 00:19:12,247
Sparrow? Yes.

375
00:19:18,224 --> 00:19:21,963
So, the motion failed.

376
00:19:24,598 --> 00:19:28,407
unless do we have Rusty on the line?

377
00:19:30,297 --> 00:19:31,868
Who's Who's iPhone?

378
00:19:33,211 --> 00:19:34,536
might be rusty.

379
00:19:36,701 --> 00:19:38,434
Okay. I see I hear you, Rusty.

380
00:19:38,501 --> 00:19:40,829
Okay. And then your kids.

381
00:19:42,420 --> 00:19:46,550
The the vote has already been made,
the motion failed.

382
00:19:46,617 --> 00:19:52,345
So the rules would continue the same
as they were for the previous year.

383
00:19:53,140 --> 00:19:54,752
If you can just hear only that.

384
00:19:55,179 --> 00:19:56,581
We see that just it.

385
00:19:58,143 --> 00:19:59,947
The only other thing that could
happen.

386
00:20:00,014 --> 00:20:01,546
And is um if

387
00:20:03,423 --> 00:20:04,826
Well ask our attorney.

388
00:20:04,893 --> 00:20:06,666
Yeah loves

389
00:20:06,733 --> 00:20:09,893
I mean we could someone if they
wanted to bring it back up at the
next meeting,

390
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,075
they could let you know that you can
do a motion to reconsider.

391
00:20:14,142 --> 00:20:15,554
Um well

392
00:20:16,260 --> 00:20:18,948
it would have to be somebody from the
opposing side who wanted to

393
00:20:19,015 --> 00:20:20,676
bring it back up.

394
00:20:22,197 --> 00:20:26,940
And somebody from the side who was
yep, yep.

395
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,897
your your you're good to you're good
to let it go.

396
00:20:29,964 --> 00:20:31,955
They're still good. good to Yeah.

397
00:20:32,022 --> 00:20:32,855
Okay.

398
00:20:32,922 --> 00:20:35,158
Okay. Well the motion to reconsider
wouldn't take place

399
00:20:35,225 --> 00:20:36,859
until the next meeting but

400
00:20:38,047 --> 00:20:40,752
Okay. In that case that motion
failed.

401
00:20:42,202 --> 00:20:45,693
All right then. We are moving on to
item number three.

402
00:20:46,150 --> 00:20:49,080
Which is a motion in a second to
approve the second reading of an
ordinance

403
00:20:49,147 --> 00:20:53,854
amending title nine traffic by adding
chapter 16 electric micro mobility

404
00:20:53,921 --> 00:20:57,786
devices to the Fort Madison City
Code.

405
00:20:59,598 --> 00:21:01,050
Further moves.

406
00:21:01,994 --> 00:21:03,320
Here too.

407
00:21:05,862 --> 00:21:07,078
Okay.

408
00:21:07,145 --> 00:21:09,412
Uh, any conversation regarding this
one?

409
00:21:09,889 --> 00:21:13,200
Um, I have not had anything, I don't
believe.

410
00:21:13,379 --> 00:21:16,602
Chief has, the police chief's office
is not either.

411
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,810
Okay. Is there anyone in the audience
who would like to talk about the

412
00:21:19,877 --> 00:21:21,435
micro mobility devices?

413
00:21:25,591 --> 00:21:27,453
What is it? Oh. Okay.

414
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,495
[laughter]

415
00:21:28,992 --> 00:21:30,447
Laura, would you like to do a

416
00:21:30,514 --> 00:21:33,629
Sure. I can give a quick. I can give
a brief.

417
00:21:33,696 --> 00:21:34,693
a camera? Is that what it is?

418
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:35,593
No.

419
00:21:35,660 --> 00:21:36,916
No, no, no, no, no.

420
00:21:36,983 --> 00:21:40,123
So what it is um the micro um what
we're talking about

421
00:21:40,190 --> 00:21:41,023
e-mobility.

422
00:21:41,090 --> 00:21:44,829
Those are the scooters. The um
electric bikes.

423
00:21:44,929 --> 00:21:48,730
Um that we've seen a unicycle that's
electric.

424
00:21:48,797 --> 00:21:54,638
Um all of those type of um vehicles,
I guess you could say between a
bicycle

425
00:21:54,705 --> 00:22:01,477
and a and a motorized, you know,
scooter type characteristic is what
that is.

426
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,541
what's the agenda

427
00:22:06,108 --> 00:22:08,079
Is it taxes or you need a license on
it?

428
00:22:08,146 --> 00:22:09,869
No.

429
00:22:09,936 --> 00:22:14,034
No, it is actually regulating where,
where they can be at.

430
00:22:14,272 --> 00:22:18,459
If they are a certain speed, they're
considered as if they're a vehicle.

431
00:22:18,817 --> 00:22:23,660
If they um are under certain speed,
they can be on the trail.

432
00:22:23,869 --> 00:22:26,686
Um, you know, just we're just trying
to regulate.

433
00:22:26,753 --> 00:22:30,135
This is really comes from our
insurance company.

434
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,921
And other insurance companies because
accidents that involve them, the
first

435
00:22:34,988 --> 00:22:38,886
thing we get asked is what is the
city's code on these.

436
00:22:39,367 --> 00:22:41,946
And one of the things about them is
there are several different types

437
00:22:42,013 --> 00:22:42,846
of them.

438
00:22:42,913 --> 00:22:45,872
There is one that is considered to be
a class three.

439
00:22:45,939 --> 00:22:47,105
Correct?

440
00:22:47,172 --> 00:22:52,234
And that one has ability to go 25
miles an hour or higher.

441
00:22:52,692 --> 00:22:58,045
And those are the ones that are being
um restricted from the city's trail

442
00:22:58,112 --> 00:23:01,284
system, if I understand correctly.

443
00:23:03,174 --> 00:23:04,745
Um so

444
00:23:05,928 --> 00:23:07,607
and it just it just it just sets out
some rules and regulations.

445
00:23:07,674 --> 00:23:11,933
We are not doing permitting, the
state is very restrictive in what can
and

446
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,874
cannot be done regarding these.

447
00:23:14,024 --> 00:23:16,162
micro mobility devices.

448
00:23:16,758 --> 00:23:20,906
I never heard that phrase before.
considered a bicycle and scooter.

449
00:23:21,104 --> 00:23:25,010
Okay. No, I understand that because I
did not I had never heard that term

450
00:23:25,077 --> 00:23:26,624
until this either. So.

451
00:23:27,728 --> 00:23:29,053
Okay, so we

452
00:23:29,846 --> 00:23:30,679
[throat clearing]

453
00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:37,593
I would like to. And maybe this is
more for our final reading, but

454
00:23:38,737 --> 00:23:43,056
I feel like whether we put it on the
city website, maybe posted on

455
00:23:43,123 --> 00:23:46,099
Facebook, but I I feel like I see a
lot of

456
00:23:46,166 --> 00:23:48,746
there's been some chatter about

457
00:23:49,293 --> 00:23:54,278
bicycles being on sidewalks and who's
responsibility it is to yield

458
00:23:54,345 --> 00:23:55,938
that kind of thing.

459
00:23:56,005 --> 00:23:56,838
Yes.

460
00:23:56,905 --> 00:24:03,203
And I feel like maybe in a condensed
form that maybe there should be some

461
00:24:03,270 --> 00:24:07,714
tips about who who needs to get off
the sidewalk, the bicyclist.

462
00:24:08,202 --> 00:24:13,492
And the pedestrian, the person on the
sidewalk has the right away.

463
00:24:13,701 --> 00:24:18,348
And I feel like maybe that would
maybe clear up some confusion.

464
00:24:18,415 --> 00:24:19,442
Sure.

465
00:24:19,509 --> 00:24:26,471
Um, and maybe hopefully it feels like
it's maybe more children that there's

466
00:24:28,738 --> 00:24:30,441
some issues with.

467
00:24:30,508 --> 00:24:31,341
Mhm.

468
00:24:31,408 --> 00:24:35,119
Um, and maybe parents see this and
have conversations conversations with

469
00:24:35,186 --> 00:24:39,087
their children about what their
expectation is if they're riding
their

470
00:24:39,154 --> 00:24:43,073
bicycles and their scooters on the
sidewalk.

471
00:24:43,580 --> 00:24:44,975
The chief has

472
00:24:45,042 --> 00:24:46,626
Right, right, right.

473
00:24:46,693 --> 00:24:51,698
So, the reason that we use that term
um is because as things, new things

474
00:24:51,765 --> 00:24:54,490
pop up, um we have to figure out a
term in order to be able to place on
it.

475
00:24:54,698 --> 00:24:57,904
If I say e-bike ordinance, well then
that doesn't apply to scooters.

476
00:24:57,971 --> 00:24:58,804
get

477
00:24:58,871 --> 00:25:00,196
like

478
00:25:00,533 --> 00:25:01,719
not a uni.

479
00:25:01,786 --> 00:25:03,045
That's exactly.

480
00:25:03,112 --> 00:25:06,834
And now, now, now there's a unicycle
that goes up towards the 70 miles an
hour.

481
00:25:06,901 --> 00:25:09,159
So it just, it's, it's one of those
things.

482
00:25:09,230 --> 00:25:10,063
Right. Yes.

483
00:25:10,130 --> 00:25:12,055
100%. Cause I didn't want to rewrite
it twice.

484
00:25:12,122 --> 00:25:13,258
That that's understandable.

485
00:25:13,325 --> 00:25:15,745
Um, that being said as far as the
diagram, I think that is a wise idea.

486
00:25:15,812 --> 00:25:19,143
I'll probably get with Justina once
this passes.

487
00:25:19,243 --> 00:25:25,312
Um, but really first we need to pass
the ordinance and then once we pass
the ordnance, then we just need to
establish a resolution for fines.

488
00:25:25,379 --> 00:25:27,002
Um, for those that do violate them.

489
00:25:27,069 --> 00:25:34,031
I think the biggest thing here is
this is not uh for the purpose of,
hey, we got people, you know, you're
riding on the sidewalk, we gotcha.

490
00:25:35,831 --> 00:25:37,415
Here's your ticket. The purpose is
education.

491
00:25:37,482 --> 00:25:41,174
Um, and this is to keep kids safe,
this is to keep kids safe, this is to
keep people safe in the community.

492
00:25:41,241 --> 00:25:44,416
Um, we're not out to write tickets,
we're not out to write tickets, we're
out to just keep the community safe.

493
00:25:44,483 --> 00:25:45,828
We're here to serve the community.

494
00:25:45,895 --> 00:25:46,952
So.

495
00:25:47,019 --> 00:25:47,852
And um

496
00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:49,048
in regards to that,

497
00:25:49,115 --> 00:25:56,077
I know the police department and we
have shared this in the past, I know
several times a year, we do push out
some safety rules about bikes in the
community, regular bicycles.

498
00:25:59,239 --> 00:26:00,415
Because that's an issue too.

499
00:26:00,482 --> 00:26:01,315
Absolutely.

500
00:26:01,382 --> 00:26:03,413
and making sure that [inaudible]

501
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,313
[clatter]

502
00:26:04,932 --> 00:26:05,899
That answers your question?

503
00:26:05,966 --> 00:26:07,527
Anybody else got any more while I'm
up here?

504
00:26:07,801 --> 00:26:09,101
I kind of like it over here so.

505
00:26:09,168 --> 00:26:10,001
[laughter]

506
00:26:10,158 --> 00:26:10,991
Uh

507
00:26:11,058 --> 00:26:11,891
Double.

508
00:26:11,958 --> 00:26:14,328
you just remember that.

509
00:26:14,395 --> 00:26:15,839
No, thank you.

510
00:26:16,754 --> 00:26:17,632
[clatter]

511
00:26:17,699 --> 00:26:18,686
All right then.

512
00:26:18,753 --> 00:26:22,791
Um, any further questions from
anybody or are we ready to vote?

513
00:26:22,990 --> 00:26:25,277
you guys are ready to vote, not me.

514
00:26:26,540 --> 00:26:27,935
Okay, Justina.

515
00:26:28,002 --> 00:26:29,268
Council member Roller? Yes.

516
00:26:29,335 --> 00:26:30,411
Emmet? Yes.

517
00:26:30,478 --> 00:26:31,575
Sparrow? Yes.

518
00:26:31,642 --> 00:26:32,768
Steely? Yes.

519
00:26:32,835 --> 00:26:34,161
Yeager? Yes.

520
00:26:35,670 --> 00:26:36,886
Okay, item number four.

521
00:26:36,953 --> 00:26:40,088
Looking for a motion and a second to
approve the first reading of an
ordinance

522
00:26:40,155 --> 00:26:44,581
providing the general property taxes
levied and collected each year

523
00:26:44,648 --> 00:26:47,895
on certain property located within
the Innsbruck Residential

524
00:26:47,962 --> 00:26:49,993
Urban Renewal Area

525
00:26:50,060 --> 00:26:52,817
in the City of Fort Madison, County
of Lee, State of Iowa,

526
00:26:52,884 --> 00:26:58,009
by and for the benefit of the State
of the State of Iowa, City of Fort
Madison, County of Lee,

527
00:26:58,076 --> 00:27:02,792
Fort Madison Community School
District and other taxing districts,

528
00:27:02,859 --> 00:27:06,780
be paid to a special fund for payment
of principal and interest on loans,

529
00:27:06,847 --> 00:27:10,490
monies advanced to and indebtedness,

530
00:27:10,557 --> 00:27:13,871
including bonds issued or to be
issued,

531
00:27:13,938 --> 00:27:18,813
incurred by the city in connection
with the Innsbruck Residential Urban
Renewal Area,

532
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,361
which is the Project Number Two Area.

533
00:27:23,395 --> 00:27:26,100
Do you want to repeat that? You lost
me at first reading.

534
00:27:26,697 --> 00:27:27,664
Thank you, Brick.

535
00:27:27,731 --> 00:27:28,564
[laughter]

536
00:27:29,114 --> 00:27:30,330
Do you want me to summarize that?

537
00:27:30,397 --> 00:27:31,722
No.

538
00:27:32,237 --> 00:27:33,214
K. your move, Sis.

539
00:27:33,281 --> 00:27:34,606
Roller second.

540
00:27:36,324 --> 00:27:37,157
Okay, Laura.

541
00:27:37,224 --> 00:27:38,236
Would you like me to take that on?

542
00:27:38,303 --> 00:27:39,499
Yes, um, so Council,

543
00:27:39,566 --> 00:27:44,074
this this evening, if you remember
back about a year ago, we did two
development agreements.

544
00:27:44,141 --> 00:27:47,992
Um, we're free guarding public
infrastructure pieces.

545
00:27:48,059 --> 00:27:52,497
Innsbruck is a Green Oak area, and it
was actually

546
00:27:52,564 --> 00:27:59,399
put together back in 2014. There was
a Project One and a Project Two.

547
00:27:59,466 --> 00:28:03,914
The time for Project One was
completed, Project Two was not.

548
00:28:03,981 --> 00:28:09,483
It was still within the time frame
for the development agreement to have
an amendment to it.

549
00:28:09,550 --> 00:28:12,864
We amended the development agreement
last fall.

550
00:28:12,931 --> 00:28:16,594
We did not do the approval of the
ordnance for this one,

551
00:28:16,661 --> 00:28:21,755
because we were waiting to see if,
you know, the progress of the
developer.

552
00:28:21,822 --> 00:28:25,942
Um, the developer has met the
criteria for the public improvements.

553
00:28:26,009 --> 00:28:30,129
as stated in the development
agreement and the structures that
needed to be built

554
00:28:30,196 --> 00:28:34,664
for it to initiate the development
agreement.

555
00:28:34,731 --> 00:28:39,972
Um, which did include part of the
infrastructure cost up front.

556
00:28:40,051 --> 00:28:43,902
Um, when he did all the items that
finalized up the development
agreement,

557
00:28:43,969 --> 00:28:49,332
and then the rest of it would be paid
back, um, for the public
infrastructure through

558
00:28:49,399 --> 00:28:53,350
what we call TIF, the tax increment
finance payment off of the

559
00:28:53,417 --> 00:28:56,401
new taxes created from the
properties.

560
00:28:56,498 --> 00:29:00,670
Um, so this is now just formalizing
it into our ordinances

561
00:29:00,737 --> 00:29:03,255
like we've done other development
agreement TIFs

562
00:29:03,322 --> 00:29:05,789
in our urban renewal plans.

563
00:29:07,778 --> 00:29:09,846
Okay, any questions on that?

564
00:29:10,701 --> 00:29:13,648
Yeah, I I remember setting this up
and voting on it and everything.

565
00:29:13,715 --> 00:29:18,053
Did it include interest at the time
that we set it up?

566
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:18,968
That's true.

567
00:29:19,035 --> 00:29:22,489
To be paid back, like interest from
the time it was set up to now?

568
00:29:22,556 --> 00:29:25,641
Did this is saying that we're
reimbursing interest costs

569
00:29:25,708 --> 00:29:29,232
as well as actual costs of things put
in.

570
00:29:29,299 --> 00:29:30,415
I don't know.

571
00:29:30,482 --> 00:29:31,559
So.

572
00:29:31,626 --> 00:29:34,453
So what will be is

573
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:40,141
I have received what the true cost of
the public infrastructure is.

574
00:29:40,208 --> 00:29:43,075
And then we have in the development
agreement that we would not exceed

575
00:29:43,142 --> 00:29:46,901
a certain amount.

576
00:29:47,797 --> 00:29:48,630
Okay.

577
00:29:48,697 --> 00:29:49,639
So, with that being said,

578
00:29:49,706 --> 00:29:52,741
So that you have interest that they
use it on whatever

579
00:29:52,808 --> 00:29:53,686
Yeah, whatever

580
00:29:53,753 --> 00:29:55,924
the so we are going to pay the

581
00:29:55,991 --> 00:30:00,248
half of whatever the public
infrastructure cost was, which I
think

582
00:30:00,315 --> 00:30:06,772
whatever's left in that program from
the first phase of 14,

583
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:11,055
came up to like 480 some thousand
dollars. And then,

584
00:30:11,122 --> 00:30:15,891
so a portion of that will be paid
now, and then the city

585
00:30:15,958 --> 00:30:18,885
will be reimbursed back our portion
of that through the

586
00:30:18,952 --> 00:30:23,609
TIFF payment, and the developer will
receive the other portion.

587
00:30:23,676 --> 00:30:29,486
Um, there's been some changes in this
with the state law. So actually, the
low to moderate

588
00:30:29,553 --> 00:30:32,967
income piece, because this is a true
economic development, is actually
allowed to be paid

589
00:30:33,034 --> 00:30:39,995
back to the city directly, so we can
help pay our payment back quicker
because we did not

590
00:30:40,841 --> 00:30:47,268
designate a project for those funds.
So, whatever, you know, that amount,
I like I said,

591
00:30:47,335 --> 00:30:52,048
480,000. That is the amount of money
that is in the urban renewal. Yes.

592
00:30:55,509 --> 00:30:58,015
Okay, any further questions?

593
00:31:01,258 --> 00:31:03,349
Justina. Council member Roller? Yes.

594
00:31:03,416 --> 00:31:04,502
Emmet? Yes.

595
00:31:04,569 --> 00:31:06,180
Sparrow? Yes.

596
00:31:06,339 --> 00:31:07,356
DeLee? Yes.

597
00:31:07,423 --> 00:31:08,816
Jaeger? Yes.

598
00:31:09,323 --> 00:31:12,346
Okay, item number five.

599
00:31:13,361 --> 00:31:19,111
Looking for a motion and a second to
adopt a resolution approving the
mayor's signature on change

600
00:31:19,178 --> 00:31:23,574
order number one, for public
improvement project 2024-01,

601
00:31:23,743 --> 00:31:26,948
10th Street combined sewer separation
project,

602
00:31:27,015 --> 00:31:32,107
increasing the contract amount by
$38,035.

603
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,508
DeLee moved, Sparrow seconds.

604
00:31:37,248 --> 00:31:38,335
Okay.

605
00:31:38,402 --> 00:31:41,120
Mark, it's a change order.

606
00:31:41,187 --> 00:31:42,020
[laughter]

607
00:31:43,872 --> 00:31:45,654
I'm not going to pick on you like the
last mayor.

608
00:31:45,721 --> 00:31:47,054
Appreciate that.

609
00:31:47,551 --> 00:31:52,007
Um, so change order number one, like
you said, Melinda, this $38,035.

610
00:31:52,146 --> 00:31:55,500
Um, this is for the extension of the
water main.

611
00:31:55,567 --> 00:32:00,649
We have a water main that runs up
10th Street from Avenue F. It stops
mid-block.

612
00:32:00,728 --> 00:32:06,947
Um, we have to abandon and relocate a
section of the water main in the
intersection of

613
00:32:07,014 --> 00:32:09,032
10th and F to move it around some
structures.

614
00:32:09,331 --> 00:32:13,398
In doing that, we're going to cut off
service to three properties.

615
00:32:13,547 --> 00:32:20,273
Um, so what we're going to do is
reconnect the water main from Avenue
E down to where it stops

616
00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:25,146
mid-block to loop the system, but
this is caused due to the need of
providing service

617
00:32:25,213 --> 00:32:29,519
during the project, and we relocate
the existing main in F and 10th.

618
00:32:30,712 --> 00:32:33,398
So, uh, we have communicated with the
SRF.

619
00:32:33,547 --> 00:32:36,403
It sounds like it will be covered by
the SRF.

620
00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:38,890
We do have contingency in the
project.

621
00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:45,632
Um, the reason I say it sounds like
it's covered is because it's it's
clean water, uh, not

622
00:32:45,699 --> 00:32:51,132
the not the sewer funds, but this is
a direct relation to being in the way
of the intakes

623
00:32:51,199 --> 00:32:54,125
and having to be relocated as far as
that project goes.

624
00:32:54,192 --> 00:32:55,657
So, we should be good.

625
00:32:55,724 --> 00:32:59,055
If not, the water fund has some
money.

626
00:32:59,354 --> 00:33:05,125
And in as Mark mentioned, this this
project is needed for what we're
doing,

627
00:33:05,192 --> 00:33:08,337
because once you rip open a street,
sometimes your blind surprises.

628
00:33:08,404 --> 00:33:13,379
But in the long run, it will be very
beneficial for the city and those
residents in that

629
00:33:13,446 --> 00:33:18,381
block. And the project is continuing
on schedule at the moment.

630
00:33:18,448 --> 00:33:21,564
It hasn't been going very long, but
we're still on schedule even with all
the rain.

631
00:33:21,631 --> 00:33:23,222
Yeah, it's going good.

632
00:33:23,391 --> 00:33:28,028
[laughter] Okay. Free day. I drive to
work, and I drive down Avenue E, and
I'm like,

633
00:33:28,095 --> 00:33:29,586
Wait, you can't do that.

634
00:33:29,785 --> 00:33:34,939
You got to remember before you get
too far into the best method of it.

635
00:33:35,006 --> 00:33:36,777
It's it's habit.

636
00:33:37,244 --> 00:33:38,470
It's just habit.

637
00:33:38,537 --> 00:33:42,249
We're driving in all new directions
and see a new parts of town that we
come to work.

638
00:33:42,316 --> 00:33:43,621
Yes.

639
00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:46,724
They're just narrow streets with a
big work truck.

640
00:33:46,791 --> 00:33:49,210
[laughter] There you go.

641
00:33:49,277 --> 00:33:51,863
I mean, I get it. I get it. But.

642
00:33:52,460 --> 00:33:55,046
So, are there any questions or
comments on this?

643
00:33:55,712 --> 00:33:57,204
Okay.

644
00:33:57,532 --> 00:33:59,919
Change order's actually good.

645
00:34:00,416 --> 00:34:01,741
All right then, Justina.

646
00:34:01,808 --> 00:34:03,499
Council member Emmett? Yes.

647
00:34:03,598 --> 00:34:04,725
Sparrow? Yes.

648
00:34:04,792 --> 00:34:05,719
DeLee? Yes.

649
00:34:05,786 --> 00:34:07,111
Jaeger? Yes.

650
00:34:07,178 --> 00:34:08,571
Roller? Yes.

651
00:34:09,665 --> 00:34:10,642
All right, item number six.

652
00:34:10,709 --> 00:34:14,868
Looking for a motion and a second to
adopt a resolution approving a
contract

653
00:34:14,935 --> 00:34:18,946
with Banner Fire Equipment
Incorporated of Roxana, Illinois,

654
00:34:19,013 --> 00:34:23,090
for the refurbishment of fire
apparatus 9442

655
00:34:23,389 --> 00:34:29,555
in an amount not to exceed $238,120.

656
00:34:29,654 --> 00:34:30,980
Jaeger moves.

657
00:34:31,146 --> 00:34:32,173
Too.

658
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:34,030
All right, Chad.

659
00:34:36,814 --> 00:34:38,040
One sheet paper.

660
00:34:38,107 --> 00:34:38,940
One sheet of paper?

661
00:34:39,007 --> 00:34:39,934
One-sided?

662
00:34:40,001 --> 00:34:41,525
No, I got a little bit on the other
side.

663
00:34:41,592 --> 00:34:42,519
That's why I thought.

664
00:34:42,586 --> 00:34:43,514
Both sides.

665
00:34:43,581 --> 00:34:44,508
Both sides are fine.

666
00:34:44,575 --> 00:34:46,067
I'm sorry. Okay.

667
00:34:46,564 --> 00:34:47,492
Big enough.

668
00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:48,392
[laughter]

669
00:34:49,051 --> 00:34:51,271
Uh, so let's see here. What I'm
asking for tonight is,

670
00:34:51,338 --> 00:34:58,200
uh, the, uh, this is the 20-year, uh,
refurb of our aerial apparatus. It's
9442 is

671
00:34:58,780 --> 00:35:00,868
what its designation is.

672
00:35:01,823 --> 00:35:05,038
This was a planned refurbishment the

673
00:35:05,105 --> 00:35:09,908
going back to 2021, I believe, 2022.

674
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:15,997
Um, the uh, major things that
originally there was uh,

675
00:35:16,064 --> 00:35:21,952
a lot of different items included in
it because of the substantial cost.

676
00:35:22,568 --> 00:35:27,739
Uh, I have knocked it completely back
to only things that have to do with
safety.

677
00:35:28,187 --> 00:35:32,215
So, mainly with the uh, the the
latter portion of it.

678
00:35:32,951 --> 00:35:39,176
Um, the uh, the truck is is 20 years
old, it was placed into service in
2006.

679
00:35:39,703 --> 00:35:44,755
We uh, received that truck through a
uh, AFG grant.

680
00:35:45,471 --> 00:35:48,487
Uh, kind of give you an idea how much
uh, things have gone up since then.

681
00:35:48,554 --> 00:35:49,966
What is an AFG grant?

682
00:35:50,056 --> 00:35:51,928
Assistance to Firefighters Grant.

683
00:35:51,995 --> 00:35:52,828
Thanks.

684
00:35:52,895 --> 00:35:53,812
Sorry about that.

685
00:35:53,879 --> 00:35:54,712
[laughter] It's all right.

686
00:35:54,779 --> 00:35:59,734
Um, at that time that truck was
700,000,

687
00:35:59,801 --> 00:36:02,369
uh, the city paid 70,000 for it.

688
00:36:02,436 --> 00:36:08,304
Uh, so, for that amount of money it
served the community for 20 years.

689
00:36:09,179 --> 00:36:15,146
And the same truck now, now today
would be about 2.3 to 2.5 million.

690
00:36:15,912 --> 00:36:20,825
So, at uh, some point, uh, I better
start writing grants again.
[laughter]

691
00:36:21,238 --> 00:36:22,071
So,

692
00:36:22,138 --> 00:36:23,274
uh, for that amount of money.

693
00:36:23,341 --> 00:36:24,298
Those grants are great.

694
00:36:24,365 --> 00:36:29,032
So, like I said, the uh, the the
truck is in a good shape.

695
00:36:29,099 --> 00:36:33,109
We do have a couple of minor things
that we have held off on

696
00:36:33,176 --> 00:36:38,497
in anticipation of this
refurbishment. Uh, they would take
care of it at the same time.

697
00:36:39,442 --> 00:36:45,690
But uh, I just wanted to uh, give a
little bit of a shout out to our
maintenance guys.

698
00:36:45,757 --> 00:36:50,075
We have a tremendous maintenance
program that's headed up by uh,

699
00:36:50,142 --> 00:36:54,220
for the biggest part of the last 20
years it was Neil Gathers.

700
00:36:54,449 --> 00:36:58,188
He has turned the reins over to Alex
Myrody, but uh,

701
00:36:58,297 --> 00:37:02,186
those two along with our city
mechanic,

702
00:37:02,275 --> 00:37:05,202
uh, they take very good care of our
trucks.

703
00:37:05,269 --> 00:37:08,839
They are expensive, but we keep them
a long time.

704
00:37:09,286 --> 00:37:15,492
Uh, for example, right now, uh, our
front line engine that we're running
is a 1997.

705
00:37:16,447 --> 00:37:19,751
Uh, our mini pumper is a 2013.

706
00:37:19,818 --> 00:37:24,952
Uh, this truck is a 2005 that was
placed into service in 06.

707
00:37:25,019 --> 00:37:25,852
So,

708
00:37:25,919 --> 00:37:27,738
our newest engine,

709
00:37:28,693 --> 00:37:35,237
no fault of our of our own uh,
maintenance program it had some
brackets break on the

710
00:37:35,515 --> 00:37:37,328
pump module body.

711
00:37:37,395 --> 00:37:40,630
Uh, that was by design from the
manufacturer.

712
00:37:40,697 --> 00:37:42,728
So it's in the shop right now getting
worked on.

713
00:37:42,795 --> 00:37:45,222
But uh, otherwise, so.

714
00:37:45,321 --> 00:37:48,663
Um, what I'm asking is we

715
00:37:49,408 --> 00:37:54,620
we've had this in the works for quite
some time, but we never did have a
contract signed

716
00:37:55,624 --> 00:38:01,643
in order to order the equipment now.
We have to they want us to sign a
contract, of course.

717
00:38:01,710 --> 00:38:07,916
There's a major piece that's uh, that
needs to be replaced is it's on the
turntable.

718
00:38:08,592 --> 00:38:12,650
Once they order that, it takes three
to four months for them to get it.

719
00:38:12,888 --> 00:38:18,796
So, this truck is going to be down
anywhere from six to potentially 10
months.

720
00:38:19,676 --> 00:38:20,509
So.

721
00:38:20,576 --> 00:38:22,011
Curiosity question.

722
00:38:22,078 --> 00:38:24,047
So, we spend the

723
00:38:24,882 --> 00:38:27,030
238,000.

724
00:38:27,547 --> 00:38:31,476
How much more life does that give the
truck?

725
00:38:31,824 --> 00:38:36,520
So, uh, NFPA gives uh, uh,
recommendations just like I said,

726
00:38:36,587 --> 00:38:40,446
it's up to a 10-year refurb.

727
00:38:40,774 --> 00:38:44,434
What it says is it's supposed to give
you another 10 to 15 years.

728
00:38:44,782 --> 00:38:46,108
Um,

729
00:38:46,492 --> 00:38:51,743
my uh, being being real, uh, the way
we we take care of the trucks,

730
00:38:52,231 --> 00:38:53,175
it could be 20.

731
00:38:53,242 --> 00:38:54,075
Wow.

732
00:38:54,142 --> 00:38:55,468
So.

733
00:38:55,617 --> 00:38:58,026
So with the 238,000.

734
00:38:58,093 --> 00:38:59,051
I I I believe it is.

735
00:38:59,118 --> 00:38:59,951
Very much so.

736
00:39:00,018 --> 00:39:01,187
And and like I said, the

737
00:39:01,254 --> 00:39:02,944
How much would it be about 1.2?

738
00:39:03,011 --> 00:39:03,991
Yeah.

739
00:39:04,058 --> 00:39:07,900
Like I said, it was more of a
curiosity question as opposed to a

740
00:39:07,967 --> 00:39:11,897
We talked in depth about this. Um,
council. This is one thing that's
been talked about.

741
00:39:11,964 --> 00:39:16,641
We talked about before I even got
here, uh, in my role two and a half
years ago.

742
00:39:16,708 --> 00:39:22,429
We talked about it when it was
discussed, I think when they
purchased

743
00:39:22,496 --> 00:39:26,447
the new one that was going to finally
arrive.

744
00:39:26,514 --> 00:39:27,347
Yeah.

745
00:39:27,414 --> 00:39:28,262
This all.

746
00:39:28,329 --> 00:39:29,162
Yeah, yeah.

747
00:39:29,229 --> 00:39:32,563
And so that's where we're at. At this
point, it was talked about, I think,

748
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:37,406
I think it was talked several years
before that in the middle of.

749
00:39:37,473 --> 00:39:40,865
Dustin just asked me, didn't we
already plan this? Didn't we already?
I go,

750
00:39:41,620 --> 00:39:42,707
We talked about it.

751
00:39:42,774 --> 00:39:44,984
It's been a long time coming.

752
00:39:45,051 --> 00:39:49,320
But to be formalized, I feel like
this needed to come in front of
council.

753
00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:53,865
Yeah, we we I I believe we have
absolutely discussed it.

754
00:39:53,932 --> 00:39:58,169
Um, bringing it back before you
because we have not signed a
contract.

755
00:39:59,013 --> 00:40:01,485
I felt like when, uh, when we got
that, there was a contract

756
00:40:01,552 --> 00:40:04,080
that needed to be signed. I brought
it to Laura.

757
00:40:04,147 --> 00:40:09,609
Oh, no. We come to you because to be
fair and upfront about that.

758
00:40:09,676 --> 00:40:11,333
So, um, Chief, thank you.

759
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,657
I've uh, no doubt that we need to do
this, that's kind of a

760
00:40:13,724 --> 00:40:16,375
no-brainer to extend the life of it.

761
00:40:16,442 --> 00:40:20,223
um, I I do have some questions though
just because um, it it

762
00:40:20,290 --> 00:40:23,970
talks about us using the sale of the
fire station that hasn't

763
00:40:24,037 --> 00:40:25,852
sold to offset it.

764
00:40:25,919 --> 00:40:29,860
So, how much is in the 2027-28 budget
for this?

765
00:40:29,927 --> 00:40:32,363
How much is an unfunded liability?

766
00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:36,265
And why didn't we plan for it if we
knew it was coming in 20 years?

767
00:40:36,332 --> 00:40:39,623
And that's probably a question to all
of us, not just Chief.

768
00:40:39,690 --> 00:40:44,178
So, it was a 20-year maintenance that
we knew it was coming.

769
00:40:44,245 --> 00:40:45,553
Yeah. Right.

770
00:40:45,620 --> 00:40:47,423
Now it's an unfunded liability money
on there.

771
00:40:47,490 --> 00:40:49,969
It's coming. I just want you to know.

772
00:40:50,036 --> 00:40:53,559
and I want to say that this is how
things happen in cities but this

773
00:40:53,626 --> 00:40:56,522
happens at times where we know we're
gonna do this and a lot of times

774
00:40:56,589 --> 00:40:59,148
cities will go, well, you know, we
just know we're going to get a new

775
00:40:59,215 --> 00:41:02,718
truck. And I think, I think the fire
department's trying to be physically

776
00:41:02,785 --> 00:41:05,861
responsible if it can be refurbished
and kept longer, which is a good
thing.

777
00:41:05,928 --> 00:41:08,921
Um, the original plan,

778
00:41:08,988 --> 00:41:11,092
and I'll I'll give you back a little
history on this

779
00:41:11,159 --> 00:41:13,150
because when I came on board, the
original plan was

780
00:41:13,217 --> 00:41:18,550
when it got closer to when the truck
was going to be done.

781
00:41:18,617 --> 00:41:20,778
They were going to bond for the new
fire truck and include this

782
00:41:20,845 --> 00:41:22,714
in the bond.

783
00:41:22,781 --> 00:41:27,491
We didn't bond for the fire truck
because we had to utilize

784
00:41:27,558 --> 00:41:31,737
some ARPA funds, which during Covid,
um, we received

785
00:41:31,804 --> 00:41:35,944
close to, it was like $1.8 million in
um funds from the Federal

786
00:41:36,011 --> 00:41:38,699
Government.

787
00:41:38,766 --> 00:41:42,707
And we in December of '24 had to have
items that were already

788
00:41:42,774 --> 00:41:45,327
contracted.

789
00:41:45,456 --> 00:41:49,708
The fire truck, the new fire truck
was contracted at that time,

790
00:41:49,775 --> 00:41:53,084
so we utilized ARPA funds to pay for
that.

791
00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:58,146
This was not in that, the contract
signed before Dec '24.

792
00:41:58,633 --> 00:42:03,220
So this is where we're at now at this
time.

793
00:42:03,287 --> 00:42:05,716
Yeah. What is the unfunded piece?

794
00:42:05,783 --> 00:42:08,292
What was in the 2027-28 budget? Do we
know?

795
00:42:08,359 --> 00:42:09,903
The '27-8, '28 budget?

796
00:42:09,970 --> 00:42:12,840
27 or 26, 26-27?

797
00:42:12,907 --> 00:42:15,525
We didn't even, we did not put it in
this budget yet because we're

798
00:42:15,592 --> 00:42:18,220
waiting on the new fire truck to get
done because we can't

799
00:42:18,287 --> 00:42:19,563
move this fire truck.

800
00:42:19,630 --> 00:42:22,384
It just said some of it was in there.
Some of it wasn't.

801
00:42:22,451 --> 00:42:27,496
Oh. So to give you a little bit more
history on this one.

802
00:42:27,563 --> 00:42:30,980
It is in. It's in the thing. I mean,
that's my question.

803
00:42:31,047 --> 00:42:33,881
The '27-28, we haven't done the
'27-28 budget yet.

804
00:42:33,948 --> 00:42:36,728
It says that it's in there. It's
going to be in there.

805
00:42:36,795 --> 00:42:40,875
but we're also looking at, you're
also selling a building that has

806
00:42:40,942 --> 00:42:43,773
potential of a $200,000. $200.

807
00:42:43,892 --> 00:42:46,381
You don't know. We have we need to

808
00:42:46,448 --> 00:42:48,821
set these funds aside now to sign
this contract.

809
00:42:48,888 --> 00:42:52,100
Where is it? Like, what fund did it
come from right now?

810
00:42:52,167 --> 00:42:55,225
If it were to come today, you're
because this is a general fund issue.

811
00:42:55,292 --> 00:42:57,994
This would be a general fund issue.

812
00:42:58,333 --> 00:43:01,302
So with that being in the plans,

813
00:43:01,369 --> 00:43:03,718
you are looking at you know that
you're going to be selling your

814
00:43:03,785 --> 00:43:06,589
previous fire station.

815
00:43:06,656 --> 00:43:08,939
We know there is an interest of that.
We haven't put it on the market yet

816
00:43:09,006 --> 00:43:13,869
because we still need that fire
station until we're ready.

817
00:43:13,936 --> 00:43:17,015
So you're basically going to be
selling a building that's going

818
00:43:17,082 --> 00:43:19,456
to pay for your fire truck.

819
00:43:20,331 --> 00:43:23,827
And if there is any differential, we
will have to plan for that in

820
00:43:23,894 --> 00:43:27,511
the budget as we prepare the budget
coming up.

821
00:43:30,482 --> 00:43:33,968
To be clear, it's a 200K unplanned
expenditure on a budget that only

822
00:43:34,035 --> 00:43:37,990
had 200K before it goes negative on a
year.

823
00:43:38,408 --> 00:43:42,849
Yeah. Well, now I understand. I
understand.

824
00:43:42,916 --> 00:43:46,327
However, the plan that was set out
how many years ago did not plan out.

825
00:43:46,394 --> 00:43:51,764
Yeah. So. I mean, I'm supportive. I
just

826
00:43:52,460 --> 00:43:53,547
That's a good question.

827
00:43:53,614 --> 00:43:57,114
and I understand that you're
concerned.

828
00:43:57,442 --> 00:43:59,686
But, you know, you are again going to
be selling,

829
00:43:59,753 --> 00:44:01,612
you are going to be selling your
building.

830
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:04,897
Can we do anything to mandate that
the sale of the fire department

831
00:44:04,964 --> 00:44:09,299
comes back to this cost? Is that a
thing?

832
00:44:09,366 --> 00:44:11,769
Well, when we go to put it on the
market, if you want to pass

833
00:44:11,836 --> 00:44:15,492
a resolution that says that, you can.

834
00:44:16,149 --> 00:44:22,397
I mean, to me that building sold
should go back into the Fire
Department.

835
00:44:22,464 --> 00:44:23,829
and how it's utilized.

836
00:44:23,896 --> 00:44:26,415
It's all part of the Fire Department
General Fund anyway. So.

837
00:44:26,482 --> 00:44:30,847
Yeah. It's going to go in the general
fund and it would go towards this.

838
00:44:32,170 --> 00:44:34,035
And to answer your question, uh,

839
00:44:34,102 --> 00:44:38,332
I'll I'll have one square on me that
uh, the the part of this

840
00:44:38,399 --> 00:44:40,855
we had a transition from

841
00:44:40,922 --> 00:44:43,318
my predecessor to me.

842
00:44:44,025 --> 00:44:49,246
Uh, it it just, yeah, it's it's on
me.

843
00:44:49,723 --> 00:44:51,158
Oh, it's on all of us.

844
00:44:51,225 --> 00:44:54,330
It's uh, it's a no-brainer. It's just
that budget.

845
00:44:54,397 --> 00:44:56,366
Well, again. Go ahead.

846
00:44:57,240 --> 00:45:00,107
was it say we originally bought a new
fire truck.

847
00:45:00,174 --> 00:45:02,255
So it's not it's not that we haven't
planned

848
00:45:02,322 --> 00:45:03,836
No, it's not that you didn't plan.

849
00:45:03,903 --> 00:45:07,954
It's just we had the ARPA funds that
were originally going to go to the

850
00:45:08,021 --> 00:45:11,066
20th to 30th Street Avenue L project.

851
00:45:11,133 --> 00:45:14,637
That project had not had a contract
yet.

852
00:45:14,704 --> 00:45:16,864
And so we couldn't use that project,

853
00:45:16,931 --> 00:45:20,136
so we had things in line that were

854
00:45:20,203 --> 00:45:24,015
already under contract that fit the
needs.

855
00:45:24,082 --> 00:45:27,118
And so we shifted everything that was
under contract.

856
00:45:27,185 --> 00:45:32,995
That included some of the bridge um
engineering for the bridge projects
that Mark has.

857
00:45:33,062 --> 00:45:35,959
It included the new fire truck.

858
00:45:36,026 --> 00:45:42,672
It also included the purchases of the
property that we needed to purchase
to build where the fire station is
now, the new one.

859
00:45:42,739 --> 00:45:48,350
So we had some purchase orders,
things under agreement to meet the
needs of the of the federal code.

860
00:45:48,417 --> 00:45:50,399
got enough support. We didn't have.

861
00:45:50,466 --> 00:45:52,646
[rustling]

862
00:45:52,713 --> 00:45:54,424
Was anyone else's question?

863
00:45:54,901 --> 00:45:56,980
Any other questions from anybody?

864
00:45:57,447 --> 00:46:00,908
Uh, once the contract's signed, how
long before it goes in for the
retrofit?

865
00:46:01,167 --> 00:46:03,285
Well, right now, uh

866
00:46:04,130 --> 00:46:07,086
since since we're in our uh our old
firehouse,

867
00:46:07,153 --> 00:46:09,791
uh we're we have the uh the new fire
truck that was

868
00:46:09,858 --> 00:46:12,019
ordered back in 2023.

869
00:46:12,086 --> 00:46:15,748
Uh it was supposed to be coming in
September.

870
00:46:15,815 --> 00:46:17,638
Uh they have since pushed it back to

871
00:46:17,705 --> 00:46:19,030
sometime in October.

872
00:46:19,097 --> 00:46:24,023
So when that truck arrives, Ariel is
going to go.

873
00:46:24,090 --> 00:46:25,226
Okay, that answered my question.

874
00:46:25,293 --> 00:46:26,126
Yeah.

875
00:46:26,193 --> 00:46:28,520
Otherwise you could be down one
truck.

876
00:46:28,809 --> 00:46:29,656
Yeah. So

877
00:46:29,723 --> 00:46:33,227
This the new this aerial truck it has
a higher reach capability, right?

878
00:46:33,294 --> 00:46:34,251
104 foot, yeah.

879
00:46:34,318 --> 00:46:40,954
So is there are we reaching out to
like Kiakuck in the absence of our
truck in case we need some support?
Absolutely.

880
00:46:41,021 --> 00:46:46,563
And we're uh I've uh worked on
relationships with uh Burlington
Fire,

881
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:50,551
uh so we absolutely will have their
assistance during that time,

882
00:46:50,618 --> 00:46:51,903
both of them.

883
00:46:51,970 --> 00:46:54,141
as well as Mount Pleasant.

884
00:46:54,208 --> 00:46:57,172
[rustling]

885
00:46:58,156 --> 00:46:59,332
[rustling]

886
00:46:59,399 --> 00:47:05,001
Just out of curiosity, um which of do
these

887
00:47:05,068 --> 00:47:09,357
departments all surrounding
departments uh to Mount Pleasant

888
00:47:09,424 --> 00:47:12,827
and Kiakuck have an aerial that is
same height as ours?

889
00:47:12,894 --> 00:47:14,369
Yes, they do.

890
00:47:15,232 --> 00:47:16,557
Yeah.

891
00:47:17,051 --> 00:47:19,003
All right then, thank you very much.

892
00:47:19,070 --> 00:47:24,771
At at one time back in history when
the uh Tama building was on fire,

893
00:47:24,838 --> 00:47:29,237
uh all of them were around that
building, ours as well.

894
00:47:29,791 --> 00:47:31,892
Any further questions?

895
00:47:32,735 --> 00:47:36,894
All right, then thank you very much,
Chad. Justina. Council member
Sparrow?

896
00:47:36,961 --> 00:47:38,446
Yes. Teley?

897
00:47:38,513 --> 00:47:39,748
Yes. Jagger?

898
00:47:39,815 --> 00:47:40,852
Yes. Roller?

899
00:47:40,919 --> 00:47:42,643
Yes. Emmett? Yes.

900
00:47:43,605 --> 00:47:44,781
Okay, item number seven.

901
00:47:44,848 --> 00:47:50,221
Looking for a motion in a second to
adopt a resolution approving the
following applications

902
00:47:50,288 --> 00:47:53,761
for a three-year urban revitalization
tax exemption.

903
00:47:53,828 --> 00:47:58,266
For at 1734 and a half Avenue L.

904
00:47:58,333 --> 00:47:59,848
Teley so moved.

905
00:48:00,312 --> 00:48:01,638
Jagger two.

906
00:48:02,410 --> 00:48:07,246
Okay, I don't know if anybody's
noticed that building and the changes
that have occurred down there.

907
00:48:07,313 --> 00:48:12,677
While they've been working on it, but
it's quite a change down there.

908
00:48:13,429 --> 00:48:16,346
Um anybody have any questions?

909
00:48:16,801 --> 00:48:17,828
All right.

910
00:48:17,895 --> 00:48:24,292
We always appreciate it when citizens
uh work on these old buildings.

911
00:48:24,359 --> 00:48:28,260
Cuz I think Jan will tell me that's a
really old building down there.

912
00:48:28,327 --> 00:48:29,160
Okay.

913
00:48:29,227 --> 00:48:32,750
And Andy, keep forgetting Andy's in
the back row back there.

914
00:48:32,817 --> 00:48:34,958
Tertio.

915
00:48:35,025 --> 00:48:37,435
Oh, was it? Okay. Thank you.

916
00:48:38,347 --> 00:48:39,622
All right, if there's no questions,

917
00:48:39,689 --> 00:48:41,730
Um then Justina.

918
00:48:41,797 --> 00:48:43,322
Council member Teley? Yes.

919
00:48:43,389 --> 00:48:44,744
Yager? Yes.

920
00:48:44,811 --> 00:48:46,027
Roller? Yes.

921
00:48:46,094 --> 00:48:47,220
Emmett? Yes.

922
00:48:47,287 --> 00:48:48,613
Sparrow? Yes.

923
00:48:50,708 --> 00:48:56,737
Okay. Now we're moving on to the
update, and I'm sure this is what
people are really interested in.

924
00:48:56,804 --> 00:48:59,681
Um this is regarding the Planning and
Zoning Commission

925
00:48:59,748 --> 00:49:02,476
and high infrastructure impact
developments

926
00:49:02,543 --> 00:49:06,504
in extraterritorial two-mile zoning.

927
00:49:07,147 --> 00:49:09,159
So, item number eight.

928
00:49:09,226 --> 00:49:13,634
Looking for a motion in a second to
direct staff to continue working

929
00:49:13,701 --> 00:49:18,010
with the Planning and Zoning
Commission on the proposed zoning
regulations

930
00:49:18,077 --> 00:49:21,540
addressing high infrastructure impact
developments.

931
00:49:21,607 --> 00:49:22,982
Emmett so moved.

932
00:49:23,566 --> 00:49:25,697
Sparrow seconds on that.

933
00:49:26,261 --> 00:49:29,924
All right, uh, Mr. Krugmeyer, are you
doing the report on this one?

934
00:49:30,448 --> 00:49:35,403
So, as Doug's coming up here, I just
would like to bring a few

935
00:49:35,470 --> 00:49:38,606
few items to this as we explained in
the council report.

936
00:49:38,673 --> 00:49:44,344
Past is no planning and zoning
commission, they are working on both
of these ordinances.

937
00:49:44,411 --> 00:49:46,532
And at our last meeting,

938
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:50,729
in all of our discussions, we wanted
to bring this this evening.

939
00:49:50,796 --> 00:49:53,632
We normally don't do this, come back
and ask,

940
00:49:53,699 --> 00:49:55,877
counselor, are you comfortable with

941
00:49:56,484 --> 00:49:57,991
us are you good in our direction, but

942
00:49:58,058 --> 00:50:02,278
due to both of these types of
ordinances,

943
00:50:02,713 --> 00:50:06,997
Planning and Zoning Commission and
staff felt it was important to get
some

944
00:50:07,064 --> 00:50:10,012
feedback at this point and to make
sure we're going in the right
direction.

945
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,737
So with that, I will turn it over to
Doug.

946
00:50:13,059 --> 00:50:17,893
Exactly. So these are major code
adjustments, major code additions.

947
00:50:18,380 --> 00:50:19,536
Um,

948
00:50:19,603 --> 00:50:20,755
We'll get to the two-mile

949
00:50:20,822 --> 00:50:22,595
in a minute, but that is a council
decision.

950
00:50:22,662 --> 00:50:26,604
That's a citywide decision that we
need to decide if we want to make.

951
00:50:26,873 --> 00:50:30,123
So, when we are discussing it at
staff level,

952
00:50:30,190 --> 00:50:32,500
and we understand what we're what
we're feeling.

953
00:50:32,567 --> 00:50:35,931
Council is explaining to us what the
direction we should probably go to

954
00:50:35,998 --> 00:50:39,821
try and continue to protect our
citizens and neighboring citizens.

955
00:50:40,408 --> 00:50:41,375
Um,

956
00:50:41,442 --> 00:50:45,966
start writing code, give it to P&Z,
and P&Z wants to pause and wants

957
00:50:46,033 --> 00:50:48,901
to hear what council really thinks
about these things before we
continue.

958
00:50:49,115 --> 00:50:49,948
So,

959
00:50:50,015 --> 00:50:50,848
here we are.

960
00:50:50,915 --> 00:50:52,219
Um, the

961
00:50:52,286 --> 00:50:55,899
one that we have been working on a
little bit longer than the two-mile,

962
00:50:55,966 --> 00:50:58,628
two-miles kind of straight forward as
an adopted ordinance.

963
00:50:58,695 --> 00:51:03,258
It's how we choose to zone that
two-mile

964
00:51:03,325 --> 00:51:05,201
that you can change.

965
00:51:05,268 --> 00:51:09,346
Uh, this one is the high
infrastructure impact developments.

966
00:51:09,684 --> 00:51:11,890
Um, a wide variety of developments
can go into that.

967
00:51:11,957 --> 00:51:14,138
Some of the stuff we already have out
there,

968
00:51:14,205 --> 00:51:16,594
need such infrastructure that they
would end up going through this

969
00:51:16,661 --> 00:51:20,623
process too if we had a similar type
use go in.

970
00:51:20,792 --> 00:51:25,128
But I wanted to get this to you just
so that we can understand.

971
00:51:25,606 --> 00:51:27,316
[paper rustling]

972
00:51:27,903 --> 00:51:29,268
Apparently I'm too far away.

973
00:51:29,335 --> 00:51:31,811
Oh. you can.

974
00:51:36,518 --> 00:51:37,844
Are you going?

975
00:51:40,199 --> 00:51:42,556
Uh, what it really is. Um,

976
00:51:43,013 --> 00:51:46,254
It's it's infrastructure based.
That's how I decided that we decided
to

977
00:51:46,321 --> 00:51:49,460
kind of write this code.

978
00:51:49,527 --> 00:51:51,515
It's not based on the use itself.

979
00:51:51,582 --> 00:51:55,374
I don't care if it's a technology
facility or you know, a

980
00:51:55,441 --> 00:51:58,775
rendering plant or whatever the case
may be.

981
00:51:58,842 --> 00:52:02,375
It's based on how much infrastructure
they need, how much use they need,

982
00:52:02,442 --> 00:52:05,050
water consumption, that kind of
thing.

983
00:52:05,117 --> 00:52:09,127
So, based on how much they're going
to need will it'll it'll scale what

984
00:52:09,194 --> 00:52:13,505
kind of review we want to do for
that.

985
00:52:13,918 --> 00:52:14,751
Um,

986
00:52:14,818 --> 00:52:19,430
that review will take engineering
studies that we want to see
documented,

987
00:52:19,497 --> 00:52:23,309
and then if we have questions about
it, we will outsource our own

988
00:52:23,376 --> 00:52:26,979
independent engineering to validate
what they sent us.

989
00:52:27,046 --> 00:52:29,753
So they don't just send us, you know,
a bread box and say,

990
00:52:29,820 --> 00:52:31,694
here you go, it looks good.

991
00:52:32,728 --> 00:52:34,054
Um,

992
00:52:34,707 --> 00:52:39,265
And then from there we can we can
really understand what it truly
needs.

993
00:52:39,332 --> 00:52:41,641
We think we've honed in on that
number.

994
00:52:41,708 --> 00:52:47,147
Now we can classify it and and see
how that's going to affect.

995
00:52:47,214 --> 00:52:51,463
Can we handle the utility needs or or
the road needs or a wide variety of

996
00:52:51,530 --> 00:52:52,935
things?

997
00:52:53,002 --> 00:52:54,659
So, go to the next slide for me.

998
00:52:54,726 --> 00:52:58,217
[paper rustling]

999
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,655
We're going to break this down into
three categories.

1000
00:53:02,722 --> 00:53:05,913
Uh, the first category is not much
infrastructure needs, smaller

1001
00:53:05,980 --> 00:53:08,917
facilities, we may already have water
sewer in the area, and it's just

1002
00:53:08,984 --> 00:53:11,086
connecting to the system.

1003
00:53:11,354 --> 00:53:15,659
Some may need, you know, some
upgrades in the system in the area to
make it

1004
00:53:15,726 --> 00:53:17,211
work.

1005
00:53:17,278 --> 00:53:21,706
And some may need a new well put in
because they're they need that much

1006
00:53:21,773 --> 00:53:26,702
water or or new substations for
electrical or that kind of thing.

1007
00:53:26,769 --> 00:53:31,114
So, based on the classification,
that's going to help us define what

1008
00:53:31,181 --> 00:53:35,151
list of studies we want to see to
understand how that's really going

1009
00:53:35,218 --> 00:53:38,216
to affect the community.

1010
00:53:38,285 --> 00:53:39,497
Smaller ones shouldn't affect much.

1011
00:53:39,564 --> 00:53:42,729
We won't probably ask as many studies
of that, you know, that's that's the

1012
00:53:42,796 --> 00:53:44,862
kind of thing we're looking for.

1013
00:53:44,929 --> 00:53:48,945
It's not so much use-based, it's it's
infrastructure based.

1014
00:53:49,012 --> 00:53:52,137
And then obviously, we get noise
studies and that kind of stuff

1015
00:53:52,204 --> 00:53:56,266
depending on what type of facility it
is and and that kind of thing.

1016
00:53:58,812 --> 00:54:01,157
Those are just some of the examples
we're looking at for the types of

1017
00:54:01,224 --> 00:54:02,142
studies.

1018
00:54:02,209 --> 00:54:06,925
Water capacity, waste water capacity,
electrical, roads, traffic.

1019
00:54:06,992 --> 00:54:10,486
Some some places they they do a
number on the roads getting developed

1020
00:54:10,553 --> 00:54:12,017
but don't have a lot of traffic.

1021
00:54:12,084 --> 00:54:17,497
So, it might be, you know, road
warranties or road replacements when

1022
00:54:17,564 --> 00:54:21,505
completed, and then, but you don't
need to expand lanes or anything,
it's

1023
00:54:21,572 --> 00:54:23,911
it's all based on what the study is
and what their proposal is

1024
00:54:23,978 --> 00:54:26,349
because of that.

1025
00:54:30,108 --> 00:54:32,090
So, we're really talking about two
different things.

1026
00:54:32,157 --> 00:54:33,293
Um,

1027
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,780
the HID code and then the extra
territorial, I'm going to call it ET

1028
00:54:36,847 --> 00:54:39,725
because I think it's fun.

1029
00:54:40,014 --> 00:54:41,339
Um,

1030
00:54:42,172 --> 00:54:46,516
I am looking at doing that district,
that two miles, as a standalone

1031
00:54:46,583 --> 00:54:48,847
zoning district.

1032
00:54:48,914 --> 00:54:54,642
You can extend all of our individual
districts out, residential out, ag
out,

1033
00:54:54,709 --> 00:54:57,327
commercial out, you know, up the
roads and stuff like that.

1034
00:54:57,394 --> 00:54:59,495
I don't see that we want to do that.

1035
00:54:59,562 --> 00:55:02,907
I don't want to try to regulate
building permits in this area.

1036
00:55:02,974 --> 00:55:05,512
I don't want to regulate setbacks in
this area.

1037
00:55:05,579 --> 00:55:06,536
We're not worried about that.

1038
00:55:06,603 --> 00:55:09,192
We're just worried about the types of
facilities

1039
00:55:09,259 --> 00:55:11,499
like HID, but not only that one.

1040
00:55:11,566 --> 00:55:14,930
You know, it could be rendering
plants and and major other facilities

1041
00:55:14,997 --> 00:55:17,376
that we just want to know aren't
going to bother the neighbors,

1042
00:55:17,443 --> 00:55:21,551
bother the neighborhood and
potentially bother the city also.

1043
00:55:21,710 --> 00:55:24,842
So, uh it's really going to stay
pretty high level.

1044
00:55:25,260 --> 00:55:30,832
Um but if they can show us that
they're not going to get beyond their
property lines

1045
00:55:30,899 --> 00:55:34,899
in in anyway, then uh it's a special
use permit

1046
00:55:34,966 --> 00:55:40,578
and everything looks good, they'll
they'll they'll still be able to
develop and then we won't try to
regulate the development, you know,
show.

1047
00:55:40,645 --> 00:55:45,461
We may ask for through special use,
you can ask for conditions like

1048
00:55:45,528 --> 00:55:50,006
like guarantees and extra studies,
extra studies, extra testing once
they're up and running

1049
00:55:50,073 --> 00:55:53,506
that our concerns have been met and
complied with and that kind of thing.

1050
00:55:53,573 --> 00:55:59,342
But um we're not trying to do
standard zoning. It's just going to
stay high level.

1051
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:08,308
The goal is to protect the property
owner, uh prevent incompatibility,
that kind of thing.

1052
00:56:08,775 --> 00:56:10,101
Um

1053
00:56:10,605 --> 00:56:12,226
Go to the next one.

1054
00:56:13,032 --> 00:56:17,788
And then there's just kind of a list
of a list of what what things we are
going to do on the left.

1055
00:56:17,855 --> 00:56:21,189
Or they only the kinds of facilities
that might get checked

1056
00:56:21,256 --> 00:56:24,212
and the key is we're not going to
look at the list on the right.

1057
00:56:24,279 --> 00:56:27,693
We don't care about the farms or the
houses or the small businesses.

1058
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:32,703
The stuff that's already out there,
the stuff that can come and go all
the time because they're just on the
edge of town.

1059
00:56:32,882 --> 00:56:37,400
You know, if it's not bothering, if
it's not bothering, if it's not big
enough to bother the region,

1060
00:56:37,467 --> 00:56:40,413
the area, the neighborhood, then it's
going to go through

1061
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,075
and not even need review from the
city.

1062
00:56:43,284 --> 00:56:46,168
Is the is the goal. We're just
worried about the big ones.

1063
00:56:49,898 --> 00:56:52,971
So, the questions are for council,

1064
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:57,456
one, do you have any major questions,
any major questions, any anything on
these two types of codes?

1065
00:56:57,774 --> 00:57:04,400
Are we going in the right direction?
Are we going in the right direction?
Are we completely off base and you
want to focus on one type of use
specifically

1066
00:57:04,467 --> 00:57:06,906
or or just write something
individually?

1067
00:57:06,973 --> 00:57:11,210
Do we want to not do two a mile
because you've heard feedback?

1068
00:57:11,458 --> 00:57:14,183
After this meeting, you're probably
going to hear some feedback.

1069
00:57:14,342 --> 00:57:19,616
So, I wanted to get an understanding
to get an understanding to you that
what what kind of level we're really
looking at.

1070
00:57:19,683 --> 00:57:25,792
We're not looking at full-blown
zoning, we're just looking at the
major uses and how that might affect
the neighborhoods.

1071
00:57:25,859 --> 00:57:29,618
The property owners as a whole, we
won't they they won't even see us.

1072
00:57:30,234 --> 00:57:33,556
I think it's a a good start and in
the right direction.

1073
00:57:33,914 --> 00:57:40,876
I feel like if you guys are going to
put the work in to doing this, that
it should cover more than just

1074
00:57:42,566 --> 00:57:49,468
one specific and whatever business,
whatever the situation might be.

1075
00:57:49,637 --> 00:57:53,160
But so I feel like this is a good
start.

1076
00:57:53,227 --> 00:57:56,014
So, we're not trying to play catchup.

1077
00:57:56,081 --> 00:58:00,549
Right, those new types of uses always
pop up and and they haven't even been
defined yet.

1078
00:58:00,616 --> 00:58:02,886
So, this would still help cover those
kinds of things.

1079
00:58:02,953 --> 00:58:05,542
And I'd love to give Barb a chance.
Barb's our planning and zoning
director.

1080
00:58:05,609 --> 00:58:10,554
[laughter]
and has sat in these meetings and I'm
sure would have questions for you
specifically.

1081
00:58:10,621 --> 00:58:12,553
So, Barb, if you want to say, go for
it.

1082
00:58:12,620 --> 00:58:17,127
Real real quick, Barb, before you
jump up, I'll fill in some of the
things that I think are

1083
00:58:17,194 --> 00:58:21,702
our P&Z has been getting absolutely
punished online

1084
00:58:21,769 --> 00:58:24,375
uh with all sorts of false
information.

1085
00:58:24,623 --> 00:58:29,559
They're they're on the take. This is
a a new law to put data centers in.

1086
00:58:29,626 --> 00:58:34,233
So, it's um it's really important
that right messaging comes out here
that

1087
00:58:34,300 --> 00:58:37,117
right now, we don't have any tools to
deal with this.

1088
00:58:37,184 --> 00:58:43,213
If somebody goes into the uh uh yeah,
I too, there's nothing we can do
about it.

1089
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,102
If somebody goes two miles out,
there's absolutely nothing we can do
about it.

1090
00:58:47,169 --> 00:58:52,372
So, that's what they're asking us to
do is as the elected officials

1091
00:58:52,439 --> 00:58:58,707
to to really be on record that we're
asking them to go and and do this
work

1092
00:58:58,774 --> 00:59:04,237
and that we get the message out there
that we get the message out there
that this isn't a vote for a hit
property,

1093
00:59:04,304 --> 00:59:08,821
it's a vote to have uh tools in place

1094
00:59:08,888 --> 00:59:12,004
so that it's not just an automatic
yes or an automatic no

1095
00:59:12,071 --> 00:59:14,848
and that they have to go through this
evaluation criteria.

1096
00:59:14,915 --> 00:59:19,025
So, Barb, I think that covered the
ones that I need to cover. Come on
up.

1097
00:59:19,092 --> 00:59:22,197
[laughter]

1098
00:59:22,264 --> 00:59:25,049
I didn't want to start talking and
too hot.

1099
00:59:25,626 --> 00:59:29,915
Um Barb AC, chairperson, planning and
zoning.

1100
00:59:29,982 --> 00:59:34,101
Um these are big conversations, these
are big conversations, these are big
concerns, these are a big deal.

1101
00:59:34,168 --> 00:59:40,486
And so that's why the commission
wanted to bring it back to the
elected officials.

1102
00:59:40,553 --> 00:59:45,866
We are volunteers. Yes, we signed up
for this, but it's feeling a little
brutal lately.

1103
00:59:45,933 --> 00:59:47,985
And so, um we want input.

1104
00:59:48,052 --> 00:59:52,915
Um I think that some of the concerns
especially with the extraterritorial

1105
00:59:52,984 --> 00:59:56,100
doning. That's a big deal, you guys.

1106
00:59:56,167 --> 00:59:59,143
Um, and I think that needs to be a
collaboration with the county.

1107
00:59:59,210 --> 01:00:03,409
I mean, the people that live in the
county live there for a reason.

1108
01:00:03,476 --> 01:00:06,472
Um, we need to be very respectful

1109
01:00:06,539 --> 01:00:11,276
and um, you know, and and about their
choices and where they live.

1110
01:00:11,343 --> 01:00:15,900
I mean, we're retroactively ask, you
know, um, enacting something.

1111
01:00:15,967 --> 01:00:18,197
You know, like this didn't exist when
they bought this property.

1112
01:00:18,264 --> 01:00:19,808
We're coming in after the fact.

1113
01:00:19,875 --> 01:00:21,201
Is it necessary?

1114
01:00:21,636 --> 01:00:22,881
Possibly.

1115
01:00:22,948 --> 01:00:24,622
But we need direction from you guys

1116
01:00:24,689 --> 01:00:27,973
because if there's no intention of
passing something like this, there's
no point

1117
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:28,873
talking about it.

1118
01:00:28,940 --> 01:00:32,522
So, um, in the interest of being
efficient and doing it correct,

1119
01:00:32,589 --> 01:00:36,985
uh, we want input from you and your
constituents and um,

1120
01:00:37,452 --> 01:00:38,797
make sure that we're going in the
right direction.

1121
01:00:38,864 --> 01:00:41,015
I don't think there's any like Doug
said, there's no interest in like

1122
01:00:41,082 --> 01:00:44,058
micromanaging this two-mile radius.

1123
01:00:44,125 --> 01:00:47,129
Um, but maybe there's no interest in
doing it at all.

1124
01:00:47,228 --> 01:00:49,448
And maybe with,

1125
01:00:49,515 --> 01:00:52,492
you know, if the county, from my
understanding, is starting to, they

1126
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:54,451
put the moratorium in on the data
centers.

1127
01:00:54,518 --> 01:00:59,214
They're starting to engage counsel on
how to regulate some things in the
county,

1128
01:00:59,281 --> 01:01:01,810
which might make this a moot point.

1129
01:01:01,877 --> 01:01:05,539
You know, if the county's going to
step in and regulate county,

1130
01:01:05,606 --> 01:01:07,280
then we don't have as many concerns.

1131
01:01:07,347 --> 01:01:09,358
So, there's some overlap there, how
do we handle it? What do we do?

1132
01:01:09,425 --> 01:01:11,543
Let's not waste time.

1133
01:01:11,613 --> 01:01:13,585
Let's do what people want to do.

1134
01:01:13,652 --> 01:01:15,124
Um, what do you guys want to do?

1135
01:01:15,323 --> 01:01:18,425
And then for the high impact
development,

1136
01:01:18,952 --> 01:01:22,671
um, my personal concern is

1137
01:01:22,738 --> 01:01:25,519
uh, you know, we're trying to not be
too specific because,

1138
01:01:25,586 --> 01:01:28,085
you know, as we're learning with all
sorts of things from e-scooters to

1139
01:01:28,152 --> 01:01:30,988
data centers, like things are
constantly developing and if you
label things

1140
01:01:31,055 --> 01:01:34,042
too specifically, you might mess
something that could potentially come
in that

1141
01:01:34,109 --> 01:01:37,211
was unintended.

1142
01:01:37,460 --> 01:01:40,367
But is there a concern that by trying
to be too broad, we're accidentally

1143
01:01:40,434 --> 01:01:45,816
labeling something and maybe
hindering a business that shouldn't
be, um,

1144
01:01:45,883 --> 01:01:49,115
for example, and so,

1145
01:01:50,239 --> 01:01:54,701
You guys know I'm not a politician. I
just, you know, talk, but I

1146
01:01:55,095 --> 01:01:56,421
I think my instincts are correct.

1147
01:01:56,488 --> 01:01:59,593
I don't have, you know, suave
language to explain this.

1148
01:01:59,660 --> 01:02:02,875
But I just, you know, if we're going
to have a business, just because they

1149
01:02:02,942 --> 01:02:05,202
need a lot of water doesn't mean it's
that we don't want them in our in our

1150
01:02:05,269 --> 01:02:06,415
community.

1151
01:02:06,482 --> 01:02:09,717
But like there's certain businesses
that we're going to want to encourage
and

1152
01:02:09,784 --> 01:02:11,972
we we want them here.

1153
01:02:12,101 --> 01:02:13,494
There's others that we don't.

1154
01:02:13,563 --> 01:02:16,738
So maybe maybe this is multiple
things. Maybe there are specific
things and broad

1155
01:02:16,805 --> 01:02:17,638
things.

1156
01:02:17,705 --> 01:02:21,066
And maybe this is a very layered
approach that we need to take.

1157
01:02:21,523 --> 01:02:24,927
But without some feedback from the
people that are actually going to be
voting on

1158
01:02:24,994 --> 01:02:27,572
this, I mean, we need some direction.

1159
01:02:27,639 --> 01:02:32,224
Because this is a lot to put on the
shoulders of just four people.

1160
01:02:32,303 --> 01:02:33,629
Four people.

1161
01:02:34,521 --> 01:02:36,431
with no formal training.

1162
01:02:36,699 --> 01:02:38,201
Who didn't get voted for me.

1163
01:02:38,778 --> 01:02:40,421
Who don't get paid and don't get
breath.

1164
01:02:40,488 --> 01:02:41,893
But you do a wonderful job.

1165
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,683
We appreciate it. And our good
people.

1166
01:02:43,750 --> 01:02:44,767
It's so

1167
01:02:44,834 --> 01:02:47,532
I and I think it's unfortunate and
maybe you guys can explain it.

1168
01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:49,849
And that planning is doing us some
really cool things.

1169
01:02:49,916 --> 01:02:53,996
We talk about all sorts of things and
we we're very, I think the group that

1170
01:02:54,063 --> 01:02:55,547
we have right now is a very good
commission

1171
01:02:55,614 --> 01:02:59,794
and we try very hard to be
open-minded and we want to encourage
development and

1172
01:02:59,861 --> 01:03:04,170
we want to make things more
transparent, easier processes. We're
not trying to

1173
01:03:04,237 --> 01:03:06,308
make things difficult.

1174
01:03:06,375 --> 01:03:10,455
But, you know, then things like this
come up, um, and we we kind of get a
bad rap,

1175
01:03:10,522 --> 01:03:11,355
but

1176
01:03:11,422 --> 01:03:14,657
we we are, we did bring this back to
you because we do think people should

1177
01:03:14,724 --> 01:03:15,910
have input.

1178
01:03:15,977 --> 01:03:20,303
Not because we never cared or why do
we never cared or why do we care now?
It's no, because we always cared.

1179
01:03:20,392 --> 01:03:23,140
We're we're going through the process
just like we all need to do.

1180
01:03:23,207 --> 01:03:24,373
This is the process.

1181
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,971
It's your turn.

1182
01:03:26,290 --> 01:03:27,148
We need input.

1183
01:03:27,215 --> 01:03:28,048
So,

1184
01:03:28,115 --> 01:03:29,718
do you have any questions for me?

1185
01:03:29,785 --> 01:03:33,408
I I think the main concern that I've
always had along and it it seems like

1186
01:03:33,475 --> 01:03:34,522
it's been cleared up that

1187
01:03:34,589 --> 01:03:38,619
I didn't want to see uh encroaching
into that two-mile and essentially,

1188
01:03:38,686 --> 01:03:41,841
I mean, like you said, people live in
the county for a reason.

1189
01:03:41,908 --> 01:03:44,705
They don't want to deal with some of
the issues that people that live in

1190
01:03:44,772 --> 01:03:46,863
town are willing to deal with.

1191
01:03:46,930 --> 01:03:47,763
Well, and

1192
01:03:47,830 --> 01:03:48,663
[inaudible]

1193
01:03:49,371 --> 01:03:50,697
I might

1194
01:03:51,032 --> 01:03:52,148
I can be wrong with this,

1195
01:03:52,215 --> 01:03:56,663
but I think possibly some of the
people that were maybe the loudest
talkers about,

1196
01:03:56,730 --> 01:04:00,313
hey, the two-mile people, you know,
like, hey, we have two miles, we have
two miles

1197
01:04:00,380 --> 01:04:04,778
that we can regulate, that kind of
thought process probably came from
people that

1198
01:04:04,845 --> 01:04:11,807
live in town and not the people that
live out in that two-mile area.

1199
01:04:11,876 --> 01:04:13,102
No, they're they're out there too.

1200
01:04:13,169 --> 01:04:14,833
They're very concerned.

1201
01:04:14,900 --> 01:04:17,876
People are concerned and this is a
big, this is not should not be taken
lightly.

1202
01:04:17,943 --> 01:04:18,776
This is a big deal.

1203
01:04:18,843 --> 01:04:20,927
Well, I mean, like us coming in and
saying,

1204
01:04:20,994 --> 01:04:21,827
hey,

1205
01:04:21,894 --> 01:04:23,361
Oh, sure. in the city like,

1206
01:04:23,428 --> 01:04:26,425
hey, this is two miles in and yeah.

1207
01:04:26,492 --> 01:04:27,325
Well,

1208
01:04:27,392 --> 01:04:29,632
I think that is kind of what I was
saying. It's easy for me to say,

1209
01:04:29,699 --> 01:04:33,232
hey, yeah, it's two miles and I don't
live outside.

1210
01:04:33,299 --> 01:04:36,703
Oh, it is, but I think it's the same
question that we get, you guys have
to

1211
01:04:36,770 --> 01:04:40,671
consider all the time as people come
to you and say, don't tell me to mow
my lawn

1212
01:04:40,738 --> 01:04:41,765
but make sure my neighbor does.

1213
01:04:41,832 --> 01:04:43,485
You know, it's the same thing.

1214
01:04:43,552 --> 01:04:46,996
that we always but it doesn't make it
an invalid question and it doesn't
mean

1215
01:04:47,063 --> 01:04:50,337
that the conversations are pointless.
I mean, these they need to happen.

1216
01:04:50,404 --> 01:04:52,130
People are concerned, people that
live

1217
01:04:52,197 --> 01:04:53,473
within the two mile.

1218
01:04:53,540 --> 01:04:55,333
They they don't want to be regulated

1219
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,853
and you could tell them all day long.
We're looking at high level
regulation.

1220
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,767
Okay, that needs to be very defined
because otherwise

1221
01:05:01,834 --> 01:05:05,397
I mean, who's going to believe us?
Right.

1222
01:05:05,464 --> 01:05:07,436
Well, I mean, it has to be very
specific.

1223
01:05:07,503 --> 01:05:10,131
Well, and also you have that that
slippery slope argument, you know,

1224
01:05:10,198 --> 01:05:12,319
once you let that door crack open,

1225
01:05:12,386 --> 01:05:16,078
it'll slowly creep open wider and
wider because

1226
01:05:16,145 --> 01:05:20,503
the next uproar that comes to the the
the territory.

1227
01:05:20,570 --> 01:05:22,393
Yeah. They are. I mean, you guys all
know.

1228
01:05:22,460 --> 01:05:25,396
I I'm extremely concerned that people
have rights, people have property
rights.

1229
01:05:25,463 --> 01:05:27,564
If you're and they need to be
respected.

1230
01:05:27,631 --> 01:05:31,025
Um, I think I think that is that is a
huge thing.

1231
01:05:31,092 --> 01:05:34,058
I mean, I'm not saying one is more
important than the other, but

1232
01:05:34,125 --> 01:05:35,570
The two mile radius is a big deal.

1233
01:05:35,637 --> 01:05:38,163
But also it's affecting people that
live in the county and

1234
01:05:39,237 --> 01:05:42,651
if we do that, too though, um, I
don't know if Doug or Laura, if it's
in your notes,

1235
01:05:42,718 --> 01:05:43,602
I didn't check, but

1236
01:05:43,669 --> 01:05:46,827
um, if we do enact that, we also have
to increase our planning and zoning
board

1237
01:05:46,894 --> 01:05:48,777
by two members.

1238
01:05:48,844 --> 01:05:51,004
And those two members come from the
county.

1239
01:05:51,071 --> 01:05:54,585
They're not they don't they're full
voting members on everything that
planning and

1240
01:05:54,652 --> 01:05:57,469
zoning does for our city, but they
don't live in the city.

1241
01:05:57,536 --> 01:06:00,621
And so not that that's good or bad,
it's just information.

1242
01:06:00,688 --> 01:06:05,163
So those we have to um increase the
board of adjustments

1243
01:06:05,313 --> 01:06:07,212
uh by one person.

1244
01:06:07,311 --> 01:06:08,189
Yeah, two people.

1245
01:06:08,256 --> 01:06:10,119
I mean, two people, too on that?

1246
01:06:10,186 --> 01:06:13,520
So, I mean, it it it does affect a
lot of different things.

1247
01:06:13,587 --> 01:06:16,473
And then I think everyone needs to be
really well educated on what we're
doing.

1248
01:06:16,540 --> 01:06:21,436
And the commission needs to trust, we
need to be able to trust that we're

1249
01:06:21,503 --> 01:06:24,041
we're acting in good faith to here.

1250
01:06:24,108 --> 01:06:28,733
And we we have to be able to rely on
the people that are giving us the
information.

1251
01:06:29,419 --> 01:06:31,978
And so, I mean, there's a lot going
on here.

1252
01:06:32,045 --> 01:06:34,991
Would those increases of two members
of each of those boards,

1253
01:06:35,058 --> 01:06:38,342
is that just for the extra because of
the extra territorial or is it

1254
01:06:38,409 --> 01:06:39,864
for the high impact?

1255
01:06:39,931 --> 01:06:42,569
No, no. It's extraterritorial. ET.

1256
01:06:42,636 --> 01:06:47,691
So whenever a city does a two-mile
radius zoning, which is very common.

1257
01:06:47,758 --> 01:06:52,066
It is very common for cities that are
incorporated for Madison to have

1258
01:06:52,133 --> 01:06:56,343
a two-mile zoning around their city,

1259
01:06:56,410 --> 01:06:59,953
especially if the county does not
have a zoning ordinance.

1260
01:07:00,020 --> 01:07:04,100
I know the county is starting those
discussions, it's going to be a while

1261
01:07:04,167 --> 01:07:08,704
for that two-mile radius to be
covered in the county zoning.

1262
01:07:08,771 --> 01:07:12,354
So something that, you know, the city
could do, and then as the county
develops their

1263
01:07:12,421 --> 01:07:16,034
planning and zoning, we can decide,
hey, you know what, this works well,

1264
01:07:16,101 --> 01:07:21,106
it takes care of it, we don't need
it.

1265
01:07:21,173 --> 01:07:24,984
Or or we compliment our two-mile
zoning to work with the county, um,

1266
01:07:25,051 --> 01:07:28,137
ordinance.

1267
01:07:28,204 --> 01:07:32,045
But those members on those boards
would be voted by and I mean, they
would be

1268
01:07:32,112 --> 01:07:35,924
appointed by the county, we ask the
county to appoint them to our
commission

1269
01:07:35,991 --> 01:07:39,086
to represent the county portion of
that.

1270
01:07:39,153 --> 01:07:40,488
Um, with that.

1271
01:07:40,555 --> 01:07:43,681
But it is very common, um, planning
and zoning uh codes came into the
state

1272
01:07:43,748 --> 01:07:50,451
in late 60s, many cities adopted that
two-mile radius at that time.

1273
01:07:50,809 --> 01:07:55,396
Yeah, and I think this is where it
goes from the the board to discussion
on us up here and

1274
01:07:55,463 --> 01:08:01,671
you know, I'm uh we already have the
uh two-mile for subdivisions.

1275
01:08:01,738 --> 01:08:04,963
A lot of people don't know that and
that and that did cause some
confusion during this whole

1276
01:08:05,030 --> 01:08:08,444
the because we had the subdivisions.

1277
01:08:08,511 --> 01:08:12,322
Um, you know, I think the list that
did we publish goes a long way of um,

1278
01:08:12,389 --> 01:08:16,678
hopefully, it it won't, there will be
a lot of people out here.

1279
01:08:16,745 --> 01:08:20,266
But then as the city council, I think
we have to look at the other side of
it.

1280
01:08:20,395 --> 01:08:25,569
There is a reason that an industry
comes half a mile outside of town.

1281
01:08:25,636 --> 01:08:30,611
And that is to take the resources of
the resources of the town without
having to contribute to the town.

1282
01:08:30,678 --> 01:08:34,619
And and I think as the city council,
that's what we have to look at here.

1283
01:08:34,686 --> 01:08:39,959
You know, it's uh it gets all the all
the stuff that we put in.

1284
01:08:40,026 --> 01:08:44,544
But none of the uh franchise tax,
doesn't have to pay the, you know,

1285
01:08:44,611 --> 01:08:48,253
it's that's what we're trying to
prove.

1286
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:53,991
But the opposite end of that coin is
is is three miles same thing if we
was to do that. Yeah.

1287
01:08:54,058 --> 01:08:57,472
I mean, it's not going to change the
amount of electricity used, it's all
comes

1288
01:08:57,539 --> 01:09:00,754
from the same grid, the natural gas,
same grid, the natural gas, same
thing, it comes from the same
pipelines

1289
01:09:00,821 --> 01:09:03,459
through the same company.

1290
01:09:03,526 --> 01:09:07,517
So, yes, I I don't disagree with
whether we need to do this or that we
need

1291
01:09:07,584 --> 01:09:11,355
to do this something along these
lines.

1292
01:09:11,422 --> 01:09:14,975
But I just want everyone to realize
that two miles and three miles isn't

1293
01:09:15,042 --> 01:09:17,539
really that far apart.

1294
01:09:17,857 --> 01:09:19,719
If you're talking utilities, yeah.

1295
01:09:19,786 --> 01:09:21,698
I'm talking mainly utility.

1296
01:09:21,765 --> 01:09:25,616
I mean, that's that's one of the
biggest concerns a lot of people have
on this is that

1297
01:09:25,683 --> 01:09:29,495
yes, there's the noise and and I'm
not diminishing that, but a lot of
the

1298
01:09:29,562 --> 01:09:33,075
concerns is how much is my electric
bill going to go up because we don't
have

1299
01:09:33,142 --> 01:09:36,476
enough electricity or natural gas in
this area as it is.

1300
01:09:36,543 --> 01:09:37,928
Well, make sure not to confuse the
two though.

1301
01:09:37,995 --> 01:09:42,931
So the H I I D is an ordinance that
would apply to city limits.

1302
01:09:42,998 --> 01:09:44,154
Like, Yes.

1303
01:09:44,221 --> 01:09:49,226
And the extraterritorial is just that
there they're two separate things.

1304
01:09:49,293 --> 01:09:50,755
Yeah. But but

1305
01:09:50,864 --> 01:09:54,546
you couldn't with the two mile uh
extra territorial,

1306
01:09:54,613 --> 01:09:59,002
then then that HID would also be a
part of that two mile.

1307
01:09:59,069 --> 01:10:00,444
It would. It can if you want that.

1308
01:10:00,511 --> 01:10:01,717
It can. It doesn't have to.

1309
01:10:01,784 --> 01:10:04,471
And that's so part of the two mile
too though?

1310
01:10:04,538 --> 01:10:07,455
Yeah, we haven't uh the commission
has not

1311
01:10:07,522 --> 01:10:09,364
we have a working draft,

1312
01:10:09,431 --> 01:10:11,851
but we haven't, we've been focusing
on the other one.

1313
01:10:11,918 --> 01:10:12,751
Really, yeah.

1314
01:10:12,818 --> 01:10:14,385
It's keeps getting table cause we run
out of time,

1315
01:10:14,452 --> 01:10:16,403
but the two mile zoning um,

1316
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:19,546
we haven't even gone through a list
of um,

1317
01:10:19,613 --> 01:10:22,629
you know, what would be allowed or
not allowed. um.

1318
01:10:22,696 --> 01:10:26,000
So, I mean it can be a specific or as
broad as we're

1319
01:10:26,067 --> 01:10:28,138
instructed to do.

1320
01:10:28,205 --> 01:10:31,370
A lot of cities what they will do
with us is

1321
01:10:31,437 --> 01:10:35,018
they will in that two mile radius,
they will zone

1322
01:10:35,167 --> 01:10:39,911
areas as if they were zoning it
within their city.

1323
01:10:40,497 --> 01:10:44,786
I'm not even sure where like even to
that point of that,

1324
01:10:44,853 --> 01:10:46,716
I think our biggest concern is

1325
01:10:46,783 --> 01:10:50,323
it allows for us to make sure

1326
01:10:51,079 --> 01:10:54,672
again, the whole purpose of this
two-mile zoning is,

1327
01:10:54,739 --> 01:10:56,064
those are going to be those areas
that you may annex

1328
01:10:56,131 --> 01:10:57,841
in in the future.

1329
01:10:58,259 --> 01:11:01,225
And so that's why if it's if it's an
ag, it should be in

1330
01:11:01,292 --> 01:11:02,528
it should be an ag,

1331
01:11:02,595 --> 01:11:03,930
if it's residential, it's
residential.

1332
01:11:03,997 --> 01:11:06,822
If it's industrial, it should be
industrial.

1333
01:11:06,981 --> 01:11:10,385
And so when we have some control in a
two-mile radius,

1334
01:11:10,452 --> 01:11:12,908
we can control exactly the pro you
know,

1335
01:11:13,107 --> 01:11:15,566
is it need to have a special use
request

1336
01:11:15,633 --> 01:11:17,286
through board of adjustment.

1337
01:11:17,353 --> 01:11:20,469
It allows for a board of adjustment
to take a look at it

1338
01:11:20,536 --> 01:11:22,408
a little more in depth.

1339
01:11:22,475 --> 01:11:25,518
as to, okay, does this fit this area?

1340
01:11:25,816 --> 01:11:28,494
Because sometimes people think things
fit in an area,

1341
01:11:28,561 --> 01:11:30,145
it doesn't always fit in the area,

1342
01:11:30,212 --> 01:11:32,522
but there might be an area somewhere
else that fits much

1343
01:11:32,589 --> 01:11:34,677
better for that situation.

1344
01:11:34,837 --> 01:11:37,683
It just allows for us to have a
little more control within our

1345
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:40,893
boundaries around the city.

1346
01:11:41,251 --> 01:11:43,302
We're not looking as Doug mentioned,

1347
01:11:43,369 --> 01:11:45,756
Barb's hit on this a little bit.

1348
01:11:45,945 --> 01:11:49,396
We understand, and coming from a
staff standpoint, um,

1349
01:11:49,655 --> 01:11:53,135
we understand people live out in the
county for reasons.

1350
01:11:53,354 --> 01:11:56,867
We do not have enough staff to handle
every building permit

1351
01:11:56,934 --> 01:11:58,856
that goes on in the county.

1352
01:11:58,923 --> 01:12:00,537
That's not our goal.

1353
01:12:00,604 --> 01:12:02,993
This is not a goal to oh, every
house,

1354
01:12:03,060 --> 01:12:05,062
every fence, every whatever.

1355
01:12:05,129 --> 01:12:07,290
That is not it. That's not what we're
looking at.

1356
01:12:07,357 --> 01:12:09,925
We're not looking at it implementing,
no,

1357
01:12:09,992 --> 01:12:12,342
you know, what they do, what we do in
the city out

1358
01:12:12,409 --> 01:12:13,791
in those areas.

1359
01:12:14,030 --> 01:12:17,205
We're just making sure that what
develops around us is the right

1360
01:12:17,272 --> 01:12:20,974
fit for the future of Fort Madison
and the protection

1361
01:12:21,041 --> 01:12:24,323
of our two mile radius.

1362
01:12:25,436 --> 01:12:28,323
So, you know, it is a again,
something that's been put

1363
01:12:28,390 --> 01:12:32,289
in place for numerous years, used in
other locations.

1364
01:12:32,657 --> 01:12:35,553
We're not there to regulate, you
know,

1365
01:12:35,620 --> 01:12:39,210
how many dogs they have in their yard
or whatever the case may be.

1366
01:12:39,369 --> 01:12:41,726
You know, I think that that is some
concerns.

1367
01:12:42,234 --> 01:12:43,390
Well, one thing hasn't been
discussed.

1368
01:12:43,457 --> 01:12:46,015
Like I at the commission hasn't
gotten into it.

1369
01:12:46,082 --> 01:12:48,312
You haven't gotten a lot of in-depth.
We haven't had time.

1370
01:12:48,379 --> 01:12:49,834
No, we it keeps getting table.

1371
01:12:49,901 --> 01:12:51,932
That that particular discussion keeps
getting table.

1372
01:12:51,999 --> 01:12:54,876
So, it but that's why it kind of came
up though too is because

1373
01:12:54,943 --> 01:12:57,372
if it's gonna be an uphill battle the
whole way and you

1374
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,511
have no intentions of pursuing
something like this,

1375
01:12:59,578 --> 01:13:02,066
or you feel a collaboration with the
county would be more

1376
01:13:02,133 --> 01:13:04,553
effective and you want to pursue that
for a while,

1377
01:13:04,620 --> 01:13:06,731
then we're not going to even put it
on the agenda.

1378
01:13:06,798 --> 01:13:09,326
We're going to focus on other things.

1379
01:13:09,393 --> 01:13:12,469
So I think that's where the
commission would like input

1380
01:13:12,536 --> 01:13:16,288
and feedback of what you want from us
to be working on,

1381
01:13:16,355 --> 01:13:19,719
and if so, then we will work on that,
but

1382
01:13:19,786 --> 01:13:22,971
I it's a like it's a big deal. I
mean,

1383
01:13:23,038 --> 01:13:24,828
Have we talked very much?

1384
01:13:25,414 --> 01:13:29,005
Okay. Well, actually, uh yes, Mayor.

1385
01:13:29,124 --> 01:13:30,984
And then I'll respond to your
question.

1386
01:13:31,749 --> 01:13:33,711
And as far as the other one, I think
the the biggest thing is,

1387
01:13:33,778 --> 01:13:36,347
are we on the right track, are we on
the right direction?

1388
01:13:36,414 --> 01:13:39,081
Are we too broad? Are we not should
we be more specific?

1389
01:13:39,148 --> 01:13:41,946
If you've got one specific concern
and you just want us to

1390
01:13:42,013 --> 01:13:44,362
write an ordinance for data centers,
then we'll do, you know,

1391
01:13:44,429 --> 01:13:45,953
We'll work on what we need to work
on.

1392
01:13:46,020 --> 01:13:49,193
We don't want to be wasting time
cause this a this is a lot.

1393
01:13:49,710 --> 01:13:52,607
This is a lot and there's a lot of
pieces and my concern frankly

1394
01:13:52,674 --> 01:13:58,511
is being too broad and not hitting
our intended target.

1395
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,438
If the target is in fact to regulate
more like

1396
01:14:01,505 --> 01:14:04,110
electronic businesses, then let's do
that.

1397
01:14:04,946 --> 01:14:07,860
I just there is a concern.

1398
01:14:07,979 --> 01:14:10,587
Okay, so I think as it concerns the
high

1399
01:14:10,654 --> 01:14:13,590
infrastructure impact developments,
one of the things

1400
01:14:13,657 --> 01:14:17,976
that I note when I look at the count
or the city zoning

1401
01:14:18,043 --> 01:14:20,718
we have I2 in which uh one of these
can be built

1402
01:14:23,503 --> 01:14:26,877
as it is right now that starts in the
vicinity of 12 to 13

1403
01:14:26,944 --> 01:14:31,409
Street and runs all the way along
Fort Madison's Riverfront,

1404
01:14:31,529 --> 01:14:35,129
even all the way up to Avenue O in
some locations.

1405
01:14:35,636 --> 01:14:38,532
and then you've clear out to 50th
Street I believe

1406
01:14:38,599 --> 01:14:40,270
or Throe Road.

1407
01:14:40,728 --> 01:14:42,202
So, we need something

1408
01:14:42,269 --> 01:14:48,863
we need this HID as soon as possible,
in my

1409
01:14:49,284 --> 01:14:50,325
opinion.

1410
01:14:50,392 --> 01:14:51,225
We need something in there.

1411
01:14:51,292 --> 01:14:53,362
We need something regarding this.

1412
01:14:53,429 --> 01:14:58,166
because we can have something walk in
tomorrow and want to go here,

1413
01:14:58,233 --> 01:15:00,791
and that could be located

1414
01:15:00,858 --> 01:15:03,307
100 feet away from somebody's
residential property.

1415
01:15:03,374 --> 01:15:06,161
Because there are residential that
borders that, um,

1416
01:15:06,228 --> 01:15:08,789
I2.

1417
01:15:08,856 --> 01:15:10,596
So

1418
01:15:11,283 --> 01:15:14,664
let's just focus right now on the
high impact.

1419
01:15:14,731 --> 01:15:16,982
I think we can safely take a vote. I
think we're all on the same

1420
01:15:17,049 --> 01:15:18,580
consensus.

1421
01:15:19,031 --> 01:15:19,864
Well,

1422
01:15:19,931 --> 01:15:21,816
can I just say though, I understand
that it is a

1423
01:15:21,883 --> 01:15:24,839
concern and we're trying the the
commission is trying to put

1424
01:15:24,906 --> 01:15:25,893
use the word tools I like that.

1425
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:27,551
We're not we need the tools, right?

1426
01:15:27,860 --> 01:15:29,364
We need the tools in order to do it
right.

1427
01:15:29,431 --> 01:15:31,661
But we need to do be smart and we
need to do this right

1428
01:15:31,728 --> 01:15:33,342
the first time, you know,

1429
01:15:33,409 --> 01:15:36,485
like we didn't we can't go out there
with a dull saw blade people.

1430
01:15:36,552 --> 01:15:38,036
Like this isn't going to work.

1431
01:15:38,103 --> 01:15:40,124
Like we need to be smart.

1432
01:15:40,191 --> 01:15:42,929
Um, so you want this tomorrow, but
we're not just going to

1433
01:15:42,996 --> 01:15:43,844
I'm not saying tomorrow.

1434
01:15:43,911 --> 01:15:46,728
You want us to work effectively, we
need information.

1435
01:15:46,795 --> 01:15:49,045
We need quality information. We need
direction.

1436
01:15:49,112 --> 01:15:52,705
We need experts and if you want us to
do it, then we need it now.

1437
01:15:52,772 --> 01:15:54,515
because otherwise we're just spending
our wheels.

1438
01:15:54,582 --> 01:15:55,415
Okay.

1439
01:15:55,482 --> 01:15:56,315
so

1440
01:15:56,382 --> 01:15:57,215
Barb.

1441
01:15:57,282 --> 01:16:01,223
We have gone we've spent a lot of
time on the HID one.

1442
01:16:01,290 --> 01:16:02,123
Yeah.

1443
01:16:02,190 --> 01:16:04,751
And and we haven't spent as much time
on the Tumba because

1444
01:16:04,818 --> 01:16:06,402
we've we've really in-depth HID.

1445
01:16:06,469 --> 01:16:10,420
And I think we've developed a pretty
good in-depth that

1446
01:16:10,487 --> 01:16:13,950
allows for us to go in and look at

1447
01:16:14,017 --> 01:16:18,048
when a facility comes to us and we
have the classes

1448
01:16:18,115 --> 01:16:19,470
what does that look like

1449
01:16:19,537 --> 01:16:23,537
and we're also we're just not
allowing someone to come in

1450
01:16:23,604 --> 01:16:24,532
and pick

1451
01:16:24,599 --> 01:16:26,352
a location

1452
01:16:26,419 --> 01:16:28,758
and not tell us what are all the
impacts of the infrastructure

1453
01:16:28,825 --> 01:16:32,239
and what it would do for the
community.

1454
01:16:32,306 --> 01:16:36,018
So I think those are very key things
in there.

1455
01:16:36,085 --> 01:16:39,171
And I think Council from from the
vibe I'm getting, I think

1456
01:16:39,238 --> 01:16:41,309
Council is happy,

1457
01:16:41,376 --> 01:16:43,010
if you're not, speak up.

1458
01:16:43,077 --> 01:16:44,999
This is where Barb's wanting that
info.

1459
01:16:45,066 --> 01:16:48,420
feedback is, are you happy with us
saying,

1460
01:16:48,487 --> 01:16:50,866
you're going to need, you know, an
industry comes in.

1461
01:16:50,933 --> 01:16:54,188
We want to know the impact of air
quality, noise,

1462
01:16:54,255 --> 01:16:56,037
what are we going to need for water?

1463
01:16:56,104 --> 01:16:57,062
What is it going to be on sewer?

1464
01:16:57,129 --> 01:16:58,892
What is it going to be on
electricity?

1465
01:16:58,959 --> 01:17:01,395
What is that impact going to be to
the community?

1466
01:17:02,459 --> 01:17:05,137
And it's really the responsibility
when someone

1467
01:17:05,204 --> 01:17:07,872
really wants to develop to bring that
to the table.

1468
01:17:07,939 --> 01:17:09,265
Mhm.

1469
01:17:09,402 --> 01:17:12,803
I think the ordinance looks good.

1470
01:17:13,211 --> 01:17:15,839
I recognize that we are dealing with
legal counsel on this.

1471
01:17:15,906 --> 01:17:18,047
They are reviewing it.

1472
01:17:18,114 --> 01:17:18,947
They are

1473
01:17:19,014 --> 01:17:20,978
Yes, they've done one.

1474
01:17:21,045 --> 01:17:21,923
They've done one review.

1475
01:17:21,990 --> 01:17:24,834
working with us to help format it.

1476
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,855
Um, and I think Fort Madison is also
kind of on the cutting

1477
01:17:28,922 --> 01:17:30,823
edge of doing this.

1478
01:17:30,890 --> 01:17:34,125
It's just the type of the way we're
writing it,

1479
01:17:34,192 --> 01:17:35,517
different.

1480
01:17:35,773 --> 01:17:36,618
most.

1481
01:17:36,685 --> 01:17:39,465
You know, I'm trying to focus on
infrastructure.

1482
01:17:39,532 --> 01:17:40,858
Mhm.

1483
01:17:41,592 --> 01:17:44,757
Other cities are being more specific
in their drafts

1484
01:17:44,824 --> 01:17:49,587
about the types of businesses and
ours is much more broad.

1485
01:17:51,248 --> 01:17:54,175
I'm not sure that I it's one way to
do it.

1486
01:17:54,242 --> 01:17:56,601
Is it the right way? Is it the best
way?

1487
01:17:56,668 --> 01:17:57,501
I don't know.

1488
01:17:57,568 --> 01:18:00,911
But it's what that's the direction
we're going though unless we

1489
01:18:00,978 --> 01:18:01,811
pivot.

1490
01:18:01,878 --> 01:18:03,903
I think maybe it's too late now. It's
fair to say that is a

1491
01:18:03,970 --> 01:18:06,807
concern that they had at the last
meeting.

1492
01:18:06,874 --> 01:18:07,707
Mhm.

1493
01:18:07,774 --> 01:18:11,307
Uh, does the council want them to
focus on one thing that

1494
01:18:11,374 --> 01:18:13,346
we keep hearing about in the news,

1495
01:18:13,413 --> 01:18:16,409
or do we want to focus on Hid

1496
01:18:16,476 --> 01:18:20,188
that may catch other businesses in
the net?

1497
01:18:20,255 --> 01:18:23,805
is the the concern that the the board
have?

1498
01:18:23,890 --> 01:18:28,285
I think because of where our location
is for the I2.

1499
01:18:28,743 --> 01:18:30,834
In our town, it's not like we have
all I2,

1500
01:18:30,901 --> 01:18:33,071
it's out here in the industrial area.

1501
01:18:33,138 --> 01:18:36,154
Our I2 runs south of the railroad
tracks,

1502
01:18:36,221 --> 01:18:38,660
starting like I said about 12th
Street,

1503
01:18:38,727 --> 01:18:41,057
and then it just keeps going all the
way out to 50th Street,

1504
01:18:41,124 --> 01:18:43,394
and then we have more I2 out there
where climax and Siemens

1505
01:18:43,461 --> 01:18:45,321
and that are.

1506
01:18:45,401 --> 01:18:47,767
But we have a lot of residential
there.

1507
01:18:47,927 --> 01:18:50,933
So there's we're unusual for some
communities

1508
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,787
because their I2 may be generally
located in, you know,

1509
01:18:53,854 --> 01:18:55,169
an industrial area.

1510
01:18:55,236 --> 01:18:58,955
Ours is running along our entire
community.

1511
01:18:59,065 --> 01:19:03,998
So I like the idea of pulling
everything in.

1512
01:19:04,594 --> 01:19:05,918
So, Angela, did you?

1513
01:19:05,985 --> 01:19:08,822
I think that's kind of where my
question would be,

1514
01:19:08,889 --> 01:19:11,069
are you is the concern about pulling
everything in that

1515
01:19:11,136 --> 01:19:12,988
we might exclude a business

1516
01:19:13,055 --> 01:19:17,093
that possibly we would want or no?

1517
01:19:17,173 --> 01:19:18,110
Potentially.

1518
01:19:18,177 --> 01:19:20,159
Yeah, so you know, sometimes I and in
the adverse consequence

1519
01:19:20,226 --> 01:19:24,206
of, you know, trying to make
something a catch all

1520
01:19:24,273 --> 01:19:25,986
and I like the idea and we're going
to have to put this

1521
01:19:26,053 --> 01:19:28,522
through its paces and like try, like
if we have a matrix,

1522
01:19:28,589 --> 01:19:30,899
like all right, let's put this on the
matrix, this hypothetical

1523
01:19:30,966 --> 01:19:32,152
business, and let's see how it works
out.

1524
01:19:32,219 --> 01:19:33,913
It needs to work from the beginning.

1525
01:19:33,980 --> 01:19:37,324
Um, and we'll make sure it does if
that's the direction we go.

1526
01:19:37,391 --> 01:19:39,362
But there's always a concern, right?
Is like when you

1527
01:19:39,429 --> 01:19:42,008
try to be too broad do do the
outliers

1528
01:19:42,075 --> 01:19:45,011
get that when we're actually
concerned about the outliers,

1529
01:19:45,078 --> 01:19:50,016
but we're trying to be in the middle.
Do we actually

1530
01:19:50,083 --> 01:19:52,805
accidentally, totally missed the mark
and not get what we want.

1531
01:19:52,872 --> 01:19:54,919
If what we want is out here, then
let's just do that.

1532
01:19:54,986 --> 01:19:57,819
Or or do you like being in the
middle? Do you want the middle?

1533
01:19:57,886 --> 01:19:59,361
Well, I guess my thought is is

1534
01:19:59,428 --> 01:20:00,261
or both.

1535
01:20:00,328 --> 01:20:02,791
You know, the maybe the and maybe I'm
thinking this wrong,

1536
01:20:02,858 --> 01:20:06,908
but if the concern is is that we
might exclude a business

1537
01:20:06,975 --> 01:20:09,440
that maybe we would potentially want.

1538
01:20:09,507 --> 01:20:10,833
Or is already here.

1539
01:20:12,123 --> 01:20:14,191
I mean, that fits on this.

1540
01:20:15,116 --> 01:20:16,272
Do we want that?

1541
01:20:16,339 --> 01:20:19,568
I mean, are they doing stuff that
wouldn't fit into our

1542
01:20:19,635 --> 01:20:22,557
into a community or a neighborhood
anyway.

1543
01:20:22,624 --> 01:20:23,462
Well, if you're going that makes
sense.

1544
01:20:23,529 --> 01:20:25,306
If you're going by the utilities,
though,

1545
01:20:25,373 --> 01:20:28,150
I mean, what about a business that's
already existing

1546
01:20:28,217 --> 01:20:30,120
that's a major employer of our
community, but

1547
01:20:30,187 --> 01:20:31,704
they want to do an expansion?

1548
01:20:32,258 --> 01:20:34,923
Then all of a sudden, you know,
you're going to have

1549
01:20:34,990 --> 01:20:37,920
bigger utility needs for that
business.

1550
01:20:38,218 --> 01:20:41,516
And this as it's written and I think
to your concern is

1551
01:20:41,583 --> 01:20:44,456
or as we're currently doing it.

1552
01:20:44,523 --> 01:20:47,420
Um, there are substantial costs.

1553
01:20:47,487 --> 01:20:50,582
You know, that could be whether a
business comes or doesn't come.

1554
01:20:50,649 --> 01:20:53,709
We're requiring engineering studies
and input

1555
01:20:53,776 --> 01:20:58,280
from the lion and input from, you
know, all of that.

1556
01:20:58,347 --> 01:21:00,286
That that's the that's the concern.

1557
01:21:00,356 --> 01:21:02,437
Well, we already have these processes
in place.

1558
01:21:02,504 --> 01:21:05,201
We already, you know, court these
businesses and work with them
already.

1559
01:21:05,268 --> 01:21:07,310
I mean, so there's already processes
in place.

1560
01:21:07,377 --> 01:21:09,810
I mean, it's just it sounds like I'm
arguing against the

1561
01:21:09,877 --> 01:21:11,874
very thing I'm working on And that's
not

1562
01:21:11,941 --> 01:21:12,774
[laughter]
a little bit.

1563
01:21:12,841 --> 01:21:15,459
It does.

1564
01:21:15,526 --> 01:21:17,287
It does, but devil's advocate.

1565
01:21:17,354 --> 01:21:18,739
I mean, that's it.

1566
01:21:18,806 --> 01:21:19,639
It does.

1567
01:21:19,706 --> 01:21:20,539
I hear myself, but

1568
01:21:20,606 --> 01:21:23,877
you have to understand that this is
this

1569
01:21:23,944 --> 01:21:28,358
it's it sounds that way because I
take it very seriously.

1570
01:21:28,425 --> 01:21:30,884
And it is a big deal and it affects a
lot of people.

1571
01:21:30,951 --> 01:21:32,863
And people that live here, I live
here, I work here.

1572
01:21:32,930 --> 01:21:33,917
I've got kids here.

1573
01:21:33,984 --> 01:21:35,327
I mean, this is a big deal.

1574
01:21:35,665 --> 01:21:37,348
And I don't we need to do it right.

1575
01:21:37,415 --> 01:21:38,343
And and

1576
01:21:38,410 --> 01:21:42,629
it's a lot to comprehend and it's a
lot to understand.

1577
01:21:42,696 --> 01:21:44,022
And

1578
01:21:45,531 --> 01:21:47,035
I mean, we're just doing the best we
can.

1579
01:21:47,102 --> 01:21:47,935
So,

1580
01:21:48,002 --> 01:21:53,358
Well, the flip side of it is if you
want to narrow the scope,

1581
01:21:53,425 --> 01:21:58,937
then you know, narrow the scope and
say we're going to be strictly
limited to this,

1582
01:21:59,004 --> 01:22:00,817
then something else pops up.

1583
01:22:00,884 --> 01:22:01,717
Yeah.

1584
01:22:01,784 --> 01:22:06,394
And you're like, oh no, this is not,
this is not going to work.

1585
01:22:06,461 --> 01:22:08,711
then we're

1586
01:22:08,778 --> 01:22:11,410
So we might be looking at a broad one
with an overlay

1587
01:22:11,477 --> 01:22:13,455
that is more like specific to a
particular industry.

1588
01:22:13,522 --> 01:22:17,201
This might be this is probably a
multi-tiered approach.

1589
01:22:17,788 --> 01:22:21,249
Yeah, so there's a special use to
this too, correct, Doug?

1590
01:22:23,626 --> 01:22:26,003
Like like they request a special use.

1591
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,178
The so a business would show up and
say, hey, we want to do this.

1592
01:22:29,245 --> 01:22:30,858
Right? What are we going to do?

1593
01:22:30,925 --> 01:22:31,952
Mm.

1594
01:22:32,019 --> 01:22:36,239
And that would trigger this
ordinance, we'd change how that gets
triggered.

1595
01:22:36,306 --> 01:22:37,293
Right?

1596
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:38,193
Depending on the team.

1597
01:22:38,260 --> 01:22:40,577
Right now and I do, it's going to go
through staff level

1598
01:22:40,644 --> 01:22:43,447
across the board. In fact, every
department.

1599
01:22:43,514 --> 01:22:44,347
Yeah.

1600
01:22:44,414 --> 01:22:45,414
And we do it in house.

1601
01:22:45,481 --> 01:22:47,313
And there's not a lot of check and
balance.

1602
01:22:47,380 --> 01:22:51,252
Mark says, I can't get you that much
water unless we do something.

1603
01:22:51,319 --> 01:22:54,030
This is going to define what they
need to prove to us

1604
01:22:54,097 --> 01:22:59,324
so that we can quantify review of
that.

1605
01:22:59,545 --> 01:23:00,378
That's the key.

1606
01:23:00,445 --> 01:23:03,625
It doesn't mean that they won't come
in and proceed.

1607
01:23:03,692 --> 01:23:06,123
It's we need all that information
anyway, we're just

1608
01:23:06,190 --> 01:23:09,428
scratching the surface trying to get
it.

1609
01:23:09,926 --> 01:23:12,703
And we're saying, I need to see this
information now.

1610
01:23:12,770 --> 01:23:15,521
I don't think that's unreasonable for
them

1611
01:23:15,588 --> 01:23:18,110
trying to develop a $20 million
facility.

1612
01:23:19,115 --> 01:23:20,311
The studies.

1613
01:23:20,378 --> 01:23:22,260
They're going to give them all that
information anyway.

1614
01:23:22,327 --> 01:23:23,160
Yeah.

1615
01:23:23,227 --> 01:23:24,237
Yeah.

1616
01:23:24,304 --> 01:23:26,847
And if they're willing to pay to
mitigate those things,

1617
01:23:26,914 --> 01:23:29,190
it doesn't matter what industry they
necessarily are.

1618
01:23:29,257 --> 01:23:32,068
They're still going to get their
their permits to

1619
01:23:32,135 --> 01:23:34,172
run their business or factory.

1620
01:23:34,239 --> 01:23:35,757
And that's where the D comes into
development agreements,

1621
01:23:35,824 --> 01:23:37,945
it might be a development agreement
with the city

1622
01:23:38,012 --> 01:23:39,473
because they're bringing jobs.

1623
01:23:39,540 --> 01:23:40,373
Yeah.

1624
01:23:40,440 --> 01:23:41,278
Mhm.

1625
01:23:41,345 --> 01:23:43,062
They might be a development agreement
because

1626
01:23:43,129 --> 01:23:44,713
they're not bringing jobs that they
benefit the city

1627
01:23:44,780 --> 01:23:46,158
in some other way.

1628
01:23:46,263 --> 01:23:47,096
Yeah.

1629
01:23:47,163 --> 01:23:48,856
Or at least not harm the city.

1630
01:23:48,923 --> 01:23:49,756
Exactly.

1631
01:23:49,823 --> 01:23:50,656
Yeah.

1632
01:23:50,723 --> 01:23:51,829
That's what I know we've been working
on.

1633
01:23:51,896 --> 01:23:52,983
So

1634
01:23:53,050 --> 01:23:53,883
a lot of work.

1635
01:23:53,950 --> 01:23:55,276
Yeah.

1636
01:23:55,521 --> 01:23:57,361
A lot of work you've been doing. What
I've seen you

1637
01:23:57,428 --> 01:23:58,679
guys have been doing good work.

1638
01:23:58,746 --> 01:24:01,186
I understand why you're standing in
front of us today.

1639
01:24:01,253 --> 01:24:02,886
So what do you need from us?

1640
01:24:02,953 --> 01:24:03,788
To go forward.

1641
01:24:03,855 --> 01:24:08,144
Like if we all say, hey, we like what
you're doing right here.

1642
01:24:08,224 --> 01:24:09,858
What do you need from us today?

1643
01:24:09,925 --> 01:24:10,758
Today.

1644
01:24:10,825 --> 01:24:12,488
To go forward.

1645
01:24:13,035 --> 01:24:14,696
anybody that has questions

1646
01:24:15,193 --> 01:24:16,864
and go through them more,

1647
01:24:17,165 --> 01:24:17,998
give us your input.

1648
01:24:18,065 --> 01:24:19,075
Talk to the public.

1649
01:24:19,142 --> 01:24:21,956
I mean, you guys the public can reach
out to you.

1650
01:24:22,702 --> 01:24:24,942
Do we want them to go forward on Hid?

1651
01:24:25,009 --> 01:24:28,015
Do we want them to go forward on
something less broad?

1652
01:24:28,082 --> 01:24:32,885
Well, we do have a motion on the
table to move forward with the hid.

1653
01:24:33,204 --> 01:24:37,507
So if if staff all not staff, sorry,
council comfortable

1654
01:24:37,574 --> 01:24:40,533
with the direction they're going.

1655
01:24:41,727 --> 01:24:42,863
I'm hit, I am, yes.

1656
01:24:42,930 --> 01:24:43,768
Okay.

1657
01:24:43,835 --> 01:24:44,668
Okay.

1658
01:24:44,735 --> 01:24:45,695
All right.

1659
01:24:45,762 --> 01:24:46,879
Everybody down here for me?

1660
01:24:46,946 --> 01:24:47,779
Okay.

1661
01:24:47,846 --> 01:24:50,391
So I'm going to is there anybody in
the audience

1662
01:24:50,458 --> 01:24:52,525
who wants to say anything?

1663
01:24:52,592 --> 01:24:53,918
Are y'all good?

1664
01:24:54,830 --> 01:24:56,156
Okay.

1665
01:24:56,677 --> 01:24:58,877
So, I'm going to ask Justina to call
the roll.

1666
01:24:58,944 --> 01:25:00,814
Council member Tily. Yes.

1667
01:25:01,033 --> 01:25:03,601
Yager. Yes. Roller. Yes.

1668
01:25:03,668 --> 01:25:06,035
Emmet. Yes. Pharaoh. Yes.

1669
01:25:07,781 --> 01:25:11,653
Okay. So now item number nine is a
motion and a second to direct staff

1670
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:14,189
to continue working with the planning
and zoning commission on the

1671
01:25:14,256 --> 01:25:17,023
proposed zoning ordinance for the
city's two-mile

1672
01:25:17,090 --> 01:25:20,093
extraterritorial zoning area.

1673
01:25:21,525 --> 01:25:24,817
Yager moves. Emmit two.

1674
01:25:25,705 --> 01:25:30,141
Okay. So, Doug's already talked to us
about this.

1675
01:25:30,688 --> 01:25:32,637
And we got Barb here for questions.

1676
01:25:33,721 --> 01:25:39,342
Um, I had a couple conversations with
people

1677
01:25:39,409 --> 01:25:43,231
and the idea, the concerns that I was
hearing are from people

1678
01:25:43,298 --> 01:25:47,726
who think that we're going to go out
there and, hey,

1679
01:25:47,793 --> 01:25:51,415
we're going to treat that two-mile
area like it's the city.

1680
01:25:51,482 --> 01:25:55,898
And I've told him that is not what
the plan is.

1681
01:25:56,395 --> 01:26:01,132
It is it's not what you think it is,

1682
01:26:01,199 --> 01:26:03,429
it's going to be so much easier than
that.

1683
01:26:03,496 --> 01:26:06,273
You know, we're not going to restrict
ag operations,

1684
01:26:06,340 --> 01:26:08,329
we're not going to restrict things.

1685
01:26:09,165 --> 01:26:11,034
for residential.

1686
01:26:11,969 --> 01:26:15,204
So, I'll just say it.

1687
01:26:15,271 --> 01:26:16,104
Mhm.

1688
01:26:16,171 --> 01:26:20,199
Similar to this, we had a lot of
conversation last month

1689
01:26:20,417 --> 01:26:24,328
regarding the property on the hill
and

1690
01:26:24,395 --> 01:26:26,367
the city could stop this.

1691
01:26:26,434 --> 01:26:29,559
No, we can't because we don't have a
two-mile radius.

1692
01:26:29,626 --> 01:26:31,598
We cannot permit it. We can't do
anything

1693
01:26:31,665 --> 01:26:34,840
unless it was in the city limits.

1694
01:26:34,907 --> 01:26:38,756
And it's not except for the few
parcels that it is.

1695
01:26:38,975 --> 01:26:41,454
So, that's where and we have feedback
and I got

1696
01:26:41,521 --> 01:26:43,602
a lot of feedback saying,

1697
01:26:43,669 --> 01:26:46,625
Well, I don't want this, but I don't
want you to control this.

1698
01:26:46,692 --> 01:26:49,658
And I think we can create this
two-mile zoning in a in

1699
01:26:49,725 --> 01:26:52,015
the best world that

1700
01:26:52,082 --> 01:26:56,968
allows for us to at least know what's
going in and if it

1701
01:26:57,035 --> 01:27:01,055
fits a certain criteria in the zoning
process,

1702
01:27:01,122 --> 01:27:04,456
there's a much more bigger review to
it to put some teeth to it

1703
01:27:04,523 --> 01:27:07,367
versus us saying we can't do
anything.

1704
01:27:07,845 --> 01:27:10,610
Because no one liked it when we said
we couldn't do anything.

1705
01:27:12,347 --> 01:27:15,251
And Doug, you're there, so do you
want to add to that?

1706
01:27:15,470 --> 01:27:16,556
You're spot on.

1707
01:27:16,623 --> 01:27:19,865
Okay, does anybody have any comments,
questions?

1708
01:27:19,965 --> 01:27:23,528
Uh, I mean, my main concerns is is
like I had mentioned earlier,

1709
01:27:23,595 --> 01:27:25,875
a bit of a slippery slope idea.

1710
01:27:25,942 --> 01:27:27,993
15 years from now, none of us are
going to be

1711
01:27:28,060 --> 01:27:29,562
sitting in these chairs.

1712
01:27:29,830 --> 01:27:32,428
And what happens then with the
decisions that are made by

1713
01:27:32,495 --> 01:27:34,159
the people that take our places.

1714
01:27:34,226 --> 01:27:35,243
This is a big change.

1715
01:27:35,310 --> 01:27:36,635
Yes. That's.

1716
01:27:36,792 --> 01:27:40,006
And then every time we adjust that,
that's another council that

1717
01:27:40,073 --> 01:27:43,654
would still have to adjust our zoning
code to make those changes?

1718
01:27:43,944 --> 01:27:44,777
But

1719
01:27:44,844 --> 01:27:47,972
One thing to highlight here is we
haven't stuck,

1720
01:27:48,039 --> 01:27:52,010
you haven't started working on it,
but the board has not.

1721
01:27:52,077 --> 01:27:52,910
No.

1722
01:27:52,977 --> 01:27:56,095
So like if somebody, some questions
that came up today,

1723
01:27:56,162 --> 01:27:59,954
do we want to hear from the county
and find out if there's anything

1724
01:28:00,021 --> 01:28:01,675
they want to work on together.

1725
01:28:01,742 --> 01:28:02,669
We can table this, you know, that's
[inaudible].

1726
01:28:02,736 --> 01:28:04,290
Well, I can give you an update.

1727
01:28:04,357 --> 01:28:05,981
I'll give you an update on a staff
point.

1728
01:28:06,048 --> 01:28:07,151
Would that be good, Melinda?

1729
01:28:07,218 --> 01:28:08,051
Yeah, it would be good.

1730
01:28:08,118 --> 01:28:10,321
Let me tell you this and then you can
go from there.

1731
01:28:10,388 --> 01:28:13,304
So, since we worked on sending you
out the ordinance last week

1732
01:28:13,371 --> 01:28:16,795
and prepped the council packet, um,

1733
01:28:16,862 --> 01:28:17,740
actually Doug,

1734
01:28:17,807 --> 01:28:22,414
um, and myself had the opportunity to
sit down and talk a little bit

1735
01:28:22,481 --> 01:28:26,441
more with the county on and chat
about this whole

1736
01:28:26,508 --> 01:28:28,945
process.

1737
01:28:29,373 --> 01:28:33,174
And what they're looking at doing
with the two-mile zoning with the

1738
01:28:33,241 --> 01:28:38,455
whole um, piece with their, what are
they looking at?

1739
01:28:38,522 --> 01:28:42,662
Does are they going to do, you know,
a high density, high impact

1740
01:28:42,729 --> 01:28:45,824
or are they going to be strictly data
centers, or they going to be

1741
01:28:45,891 --> 01:28:47,980
strictly nuclear? What are they
looking at?

1742
01:28:48,099 --> 01:28:51,045
So, as I mentioned earlier, planning
and zoning at the

1743
01:28:51,112 --> 01:28:53,668
county level is going to take some
time.

1744
01:28:53,847 --> 01:28:56,356
They have to form a commission.
They're going to have to have a

1745
01:28:56,423 --> 01:28:59,207
staff person. They're going to it's
going to take time.

1746
01:28:59,685 --> 01:29:02,313
And when if they put that in place,
then the next layer would come

1747
01:29:02,380 --> 01:29:04,518
back if we do the two-mile,

1748
01:29:05,473 --> 01:29:08,926
does the city's two-mile override
theirs,

1749
01:29:08,993 --> 01:29:12,089
or does it complement and that's what
would have to be developed

1750
01:29:12,156 --> 01:29:14,324
as they develop theirs.

1751
01:29:15,835 --> 01:29:17,926
So, that's kind of where we're at at
this point.

1752
01:29:17,993 --> 01:29:23,068
So are you saying that maybe we
should kind of slow walk that?

1753
01:29:23,135 --> 01:29:24,629
Um, I would not advise that.

1754
01:29:24,696 --> 01:29:25,671
No.

1755
01:29:25,738 --> 01:29:26,571
Uh,

1756
01:29:26,638 --> 01:29:30,402
I was also present at that meeting
and um, I think it is it is a good

1757
01:29:30,469 --> 01:29:34,669
move for us to continue doing what
we're doing

1758
01:29:34,736 --> 01:29:36,976
for now.

1759
01:29:37,043 --> 01:29:38,369
Okay.

1760
01:29:38,637 --> 01:29:39,470
Yes.

1761
01:29:39,537 --> 01:29:41,521
Just reminder also though that

1762
01:29:41,588 --> 01:29:42,421
Uh,

1763
01:29:42,488 --> 01:29:44,719
Sorry, that two-mile moves.

1764
01:29:45,652 --> 01:29:49,017
We NAC said that two-mile goes
further out than it is today.

1765
01:29:49,084 --> 01:29:51,083
I mean, just throwing that out there.

1766
01:29:51,332 --> 01:29:53,950
Someone might not think much about
it.

1767
01:29:54,017 --> 01:29:55,358
Oh, we're on two miles out.

1768
01:29:55,425 --> 01:29:56,258
city limits,

1769
01:29:56,325 --> 01:30:01,720
but we have a new industry that comes
in, that's in the county, right on
there and they want to come and and

1770
01:30:01,787 --> 01:30:05,519
just like the KCs at the edge of town
want to become part of the city.

1771
01:30:05,586 --> 01:30:12,488
that two mile moves into a
neighborhood where I might not have
ever I never thought that that was
going to be a problem for them.

1772
01:30:12,627 --> 01:30:15,603
Well, I believe nine times out of 10,

1773
01:30:15,670 --> 01:30:20,974
it's it's not going to be a problem
for any residential or farm
operation.

1774
01:30:21,041 --> 01:30:22,157
Right. We're not worried about that.

1775
01:30:22,224 --> 01:30:23,877
Yes. And I I don't disagree with
that.

1776
01:30:23,944 --> 01:30:25,250
I don't disagree with that.

1777
01:30:25,317 --> 01:30:27,010
I like you said, that might I agree
it's always been.

1778
01:30:27,077 --> 01:30:29,268
Well, let's go 99 out of a hundred
times.

1779
01:30:29,335 --> 01:30:31,654
The argument's always been the the
slippery slope idea of

1780
01:30:31,721 --> 01:30:36,279
when all the pieces are off the
chessboard, there's new pieces on the
board.

1781
01:30:36,346 --> 01:30:39,130
Then where are the rules then?

1782
01:30:41,945 --> 01:30:44,732
So my, I guess closing statement
would be,

1783
01:30:44,799 --> 01:30:47,318
uh, we've seen a lot of concern from
the public.

1784
01:30:47,385 --> 01:30:48,218
Mhm.

1785
01:30:48,285 --> 01:30:52,833
And we reviewed our code and it needs
adjustment.

1786
01:30:53,489 --> 01:30:55,749
And we understand that we can't do
anything outside two miles,

1787
01:30:55,816 --> 01:30:58,265
outside city limits.

1788
01:30:58,332 --> 01:31:00,493
virtually at all.

1789
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,563
And we have the ability to change
that.

1790
01:31:03,862 --> 01:31:07,773
in a reasonable time frame, so at
least there's some upfront control,

1791
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,348
some checks and balances.

1792
01:31:10,415 --> 01:31:11,248
Mhm.

1793
01:31:11,315 --> 01:31:13,627
The county's working on theirs,
that's a whole new department for
them,

1794
01:31:13,694 --> 01:31:16,419
that's gonna take them some time.

1795
01:31:16,548 --> 01:31:18,868
When they get there's done, it'll be
a discussion between the city and the

1796
01:31:18,935 --> 01:31:21,553
county, how we want to mesh those

1797
01:31:21,620 --> 01:31:24,935
or do we rescind ours because they
are now doing zoning and they're

1798
01:31:25,002 --> 01:31:27,540
checking that for themselves and

1799
01:31:27,607 --> 01:31:30,524
in theory, watching our boundary for
us.

1800
01:31:30,591 --> 01:31:36,408
But for the time being, I think it's
wise to protect ourselves.

1801
01:31:36,607 --> 01:31:37,505
as a city.

1802
01:31:37,572 --> 01:31:38,405
Yeah.

1803
01:31:38,472 --> 01:31:42,085
And I think we were elected by the
citizens of Fort Madison and the

1804
01:31:42,152 --> 01:31:46,063
citizens of Fort Madison are wanting
the city protected from some things

1805
01:31:46,130 --> 01:31:49,242
and this is part of that.

1806
01:31:49,332 --> 01:31:51,950
And the real key is, what do we
actually looking at?

1807
01:31:52,017 --> 01:31:55,736
The things that the people in the two
mile are concerned about also.

1808
01:31:55,846 --> 01:31:56,863
That's what we're looking at.

1809
01:31:56,930 --> 01:31:58,554
We're not looking at their lot and
whether they build a new

1810
01:31:58,621 --> 01:31:59,826
poll barn or not.

1811
01:31:59,893 --> 01:32:00,726
I don't care.

1812
01:32:00,793 --> 01:32:04,405
And just one more piece, if you look
at our history on the two mile

1813
01:32:04,472 --> 01:32:07,995
subdivisions, we've been very
reasonable across how many years.

1814
01:32:08,062 --> 01:32:11,277
We we have a body of evidence to show
that we are being responsible and

1815
01:32:11,344 --> 01:32:15,096
reasonable in maintaining the two
mile ordinance.

1816
01:32:15,163 --> 01:32:15,996
Right.

1817
01:32:16,063 --> 01:32:16,896
Right.

1818
01:32:16,963 --> 01:32:19,813
And and I've been mentally playing
devil's advocate here. I'm not saying

1819
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:21,941
that this this should not happen.

1820
01:32:22,008 --> 01:32:26,983
I just I came from the county for a
lot of years and, you know,

1821
01:32:27,050 --> 01:32:30,265
out in the county people don't
tolerate certain things like they're

1822
01:32:30,332 --> 01:32:33,388
willing to hear in the city.

1823
01:32:33,455 --> 01:32:36,869
And I just want to make sure that
what happens stops at I don't want to

1824
01:32:36,936 --> 01:32:40,727
see complete planning and zoning
outside of the city.

1825
01:32:40,794 --> 01:32:41,627
Absolutely.

1826
01:32:41,694 --> 01:32:42,793
I don't want to sound like that.

1827
01:32:42,860 --> 01:32:45,170
I like that. Well, I'll be honest,

1828
01:32:45,237 --> 01:32:48,750
following the things that have been
going on, it would have surprised me

1829
01:32:48,817 --> 01:32:54,070
if every incorporated community in
the county wanted to do a two-mile
ordinance

1830
01:32:54,137 --> 01:32:57,700
in order to protect their cities.

1831
01:32:57,767 --> 01:33:00,375
I believe West Point was having this
same discussion.

1832
01:33:00,442 --> 01:33:01,569
You think you're ready to vote?

1833
01:33:01,636 --> 01:33:02,792
with carbon pipeline.

1834
01:33:02,859 --> 01:33:03,896
[inaudible]

1835
01:33:03,963 --> 01:33:04,796
All right.

1836
01:33:04,863 --> 01:33:06,301
Um

1837
01:33:06,368 --> 01:33:10,296
Council members, unless you have
anything else to say, anybody in the
audience?

1838
01:33:10,363 --> 01:33:11,196
Are y'all good?

1839
01:33:11,263 --> 01:33:12,263
Okay.

1840
01:33:12,330 --> 01:33:13,267
Um,

1841
01:33:13,334 --> 01:33:17,046
then it sounds like council is ready
to vote because you are basically
going

1842
01:33:17,113 --> 01:33:21,820
to tell the Planning and Zoning
Commission that you're in favor of
them continuing

1843
01:33:21,887 --> 01:33:22,720
Absolutely.

1844
01:33:22,787 --> 01:33:29,045
with their with the plan to do the
ET.

1845
01:33:29,861 --> 01:33:31,422
Dug's terms.

1846
01:33:32,317 --> 01:33:33,523
Okay?

1847
01:33:33,590 --> 01:33:35,035
Justina.

1848
01:33:35,102 --> 01:33:36,129
Council member Yager.

1849
01:33:36,196 --> 01:33:37,029
Yes.

1850
01:33:37,096 --> 01:33:37,929
Roller?

1851
01:33:37,996 --> 01:33:38,829
Yes.

1852
01:33:38,896 --> 01:33:39,729
Emmit?

1853
01:33:39,796 --> 01:33:40,629
Yes.

1854
01:33:40,696 --> 01:33:41,529
Sparrow?

1855
01:33:41,596 --> 01:33:42,429
Yes.

1856
01:33:42,496 --> 01:33:43,329
Tili?

1857
01:33:43,396 --> 01:33:44,426
Yes.

1858
01:33:44,493 --> 01:33:45,819
All right, Lara.

1859
01:33:47,685 --> 01:33:51,626
Okay. Well, Council, thank you
tonight for a lot of good discussion.

1860
01:33:51,693 --> 01:33:55,604
Um, I think it's important. I think
it means a lot to planning and zoning
to have these discussions to kind of

1861
01:33:55,671 --> 01:33:59,125
get them in a direction of where to
go.

1862
01:33:59,192 --> 01:34:03,003
And we'll continue, um, modifying and
working on this and working in

1863
01:34:03,070 --> 01:34:07,200
between with legal to make sure we're
getting the direction that we want to
go.

1864
01:34:07,267 --> 01:34:10,382
So just a few things. Monday next
week is Labor Day. We will be closed
and

1865
01:34:10,449 --> 01:34:13,356
um for the holiday.

1866
01:34:13,423 --> 01:34:17,930
Um, we have a something unusual we're
doing. We never shut down being able
to do our transactions online or our

1867
01:34:17,997 --> 01:34:22,903
finance department taking, um, permit
fun, you know, payments for permit,

1868
01:34:22,970 --> 01:34:26,911
payment for water bill.

1869
01:34:26,978 --> 01:34:30,789
But we are doing a software upgrade,
we're going cloud-based with our

1870
01:34:30,856 --> 01:34:34,648
accounting software. This has been a
big deal that we've been kind of
working on for a while.

1871
01:34:34,715 --> 01:34:38,725
And with that, from 5:00 p.m. on
Tuesday, September 8th, we will not
be

1872
01:34:38,792 --> 01:34:42,703
able to do any online transactions,
and we will not also take any cash

1873
01:34:42,770 --> 01:34:48,491
transactions or check transactions,
any transactions inside City Hall.

1874
01:34:48,558 --> 01:34:52,052
We're just going to say all day on
September 9th.

1875
01:34:52,119 --> 01:34:56,686
The drop-off box is available in the
alleyway if someone wants to make a
payment.

1876
01:34:56,753 --> 01:34:58,884
But we'll be open, we'll be doing
business.

1877
01:34:58,951 --> 01:35:00,942
we're just not operating the

1878
01:35:01,009 --> 01:35:02,782
finance section of taking cash for
the day.

1879
01:35:02,849 --> 01:35:04,801
Or credit cards or anything.

1880
01:35:04,868 --> 01:35:06,432
Um, with that, um, then we'll

1881
01:35:06,499 --> 01:35:08,680
get to uh September 11th, uh

1882
01:35:08,747 --> 01:35:11,842
which will be the 25th anniversary of
9/11.

1883
01:35:11,909 --> 01:35:14,676
Um, the fire department, police
department and city

1884
01:35:14,743 --> 01:35:16,904
is working together with

1885
01:35:16,971 --> 01:35:19,467
altogether to put together a ceremony

1886
01:35:19,557 --> 01:35:21,608
at 7:35 AM on

1887
01:35:21,675 --> 01:35:25,089
uh Friday, September 11th

1888
01:35:25,156 --> 01:35:27,088
at the current fire station.

1889
01:35:27,155 --> 01:35:28,967
So we invite the public to come for
that.

1890
01:35:29,034 --> 01:35:31,632
We'll have promotions out here

1891
01:35:31,699 --> 01:35:33,134
within the next day for that.

1892
01:35:33,201 --> 01:35:36,774
um ceremony in honor of the 25 um
anniversary of that

1893
01:35:36,841 --> 01:35:38,522
event.

1894
01:35:38,661 --> 01:35:41,697
Um, I do want to give a kudos out to
our staff and

1895
01:35:41,764 --> 01:35:44,879
many staff that are not here but that
are

1896
01:35:44,946 --> 01:35:46,550
and a lot of them have been

1897
01:35:46,617 --> 01:35:48,705
working towards our Rodeo that's
coming up.

1898
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:50,926
in a week.

1899
01:35:50,993 --> 01:35:52,626
And there's a lot of prep work.

1900
01:35:52,693 --> 01:35:55,461
Um, we start probably close to a
month ahead of time.

1901
01:35:55,528 --> 01:35:57,241
and then during the event,

1902
01:35:57,308 --> 01:35:59,615
we have a lot of emergency management

1903
01:35:59,744 --> 01:36:02,412
involved. I know our police
department works lots of hours.

1904
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,070
I know we have fire there.

1905
01:36:04,319 --> 01:36:06,440
And we also have our staff picking up
trash

1906
01:36:06,507 --> 01:36:07,852
in the campground and everywhere else

1907
01:36:07,919 --> 01:36:08,752
to make this work.

1908
01:36:08,819 --> 01:36:11,089
And so this is a big, big deal in our
community, and

1909
01:36:11,156 --> 01:36:16,141
the city contributes a lot of
manpower to that event.

1910
01:36:16,208 --> 01:36:18,428
So I kudos them all for making sure
for Madison

1911
01:36:18,495 --> 01:36:21,131
looks good during that time.

1912
01:36:21,608 --> 01:36:24,542
Um, that is all I have this evening.

1913
01:36:24,726 --> 01:36:25,559
All right.

1914
01:36:25,626 --> 01:36:26,553
speak up.

1915
01:36:26,620 --> 01:36:27,817
Yeah. Oh my goodness.

1916
01:36:27,884 --> 01:36:29,368
You all have a really long night,

1917
01:36:29,435 --> 01:36:31,257
so I'm going to give you guys a nice
story.

1918
01:36:31,324 --> 01:36:32,650
Oh my gosh.

1919
01:36:32,965 --> 01:36:34,440
Uh, two, two really exciting things.

1920
01:36:34,507 --> 01:36:37,391
One, I'd like to actually give a
shout out to Sean.

1921
01:36:37,490 --> 01:36:41,269
Um, had a great opportunity to work
with him on a grant.

1922
01:36:41,717 --> 01:36:43,987
Um, him and I put in a lot of work.

1923
01:36:44,054 --> 01:36:45,996
He did most of the writing. He did a
really good job

1924
01:36:46,063 --> 01:36:48,661
and we ended up getting, I believe it
was $42,000

1925
01:36:48,728 --> 01:36:51,088
for the county

1926
01:36:51,155 --> 01:36:53,236
on a criminal interdiction grant

1927
01:36:53,303 --> 01:36:55,583
for stolen items, burglaries.

1928
01:36:55,650 --> 01:36:56,935
So, uh, pretty excited.

1929
01:36:57,002 --> 01:36:58,606
Uh, that starts here relatively soon,
so,

1930
01:36:58,673 --> 01:37:01,092
uh, I wanted to tell him thank you
formally because he put

1931
01:37:01,159 --> 01:37:03,546
a lot of work into it, so I'm really
excited.

1932
01:37:03,646 --> 01:37:05,369
Uh, and it's always nice when we
collaborate

1933
01:37:05,436 --> 01:37:06,562
with other agencies.

1934
01:37:06,629 --> 01:37:07,462
Yes.

1935
01:37:07,529 --> 01:37:09,749
Um, one last one. Uh, one of my
officers who couldn't

1936
01:37:09,816 --> 01:37:11,937
be here because he's working a lot of
overtime,

1937
01:37:12,004 --> 01:37:14,839
we are short staffed.

1938
01:37:15,107 --> 01:37:16,611
Uh, did something pretty awesome this
week

1939
01:37:16,678 --> 01:37:18,103
and I got to get of a letter of
accommodation

1940
01:37:18,170 --> 01:37:19,861
for him.

1941
01:37:20,159 --> 01:37:22,181
Um, there was an elderly lady who her
house was egged

1942
01:37:22,248 --> 01:37:24,634
by some juveniles.

1943
01:37:24,734 --> 01:37:26,656
Uh, the officer had taken the report
and then

1944
01:37:26,723 --> 01:37:28,513
on his day off,

1945
01:37:28,911 --> 01:37:30,634
took his own personal power washer
and washed

1946
01:37:30,701 --> 01:37:32,491
her house.

1947
01:37:32,889 --> 01:37:35,905
Um, and that is everything that I
look for as a leader

1948
01:37:35,972 --> 01:37:37,993
is that we're making impact in the
community and

1949
01:37:38,060 --> 01:37:40,082
my people are willing to sacrifice
their own personal

1950
01:37:40,149 --> 01:37:42,336
time for those that are in this
community.

1951
01:37:42,597 --> 01:37:43,430
So.

1952
01:37:43,497 --> 01:37:44,330
Pretty proud of him.

1953
01:37:44,397 --> 01:37:45,230
Yes.

1954
01:37:45,297 --> 01:37:47,212
Well, thank you for sharing and no, I
did not get

1955
01:37:47,279 --> 01:37:48,903
a chance to ask you if you had
anything.

1956
01:37:48,970 --> 01:37:51,854
I should ask staff, was there
anything else this evening?

1957
01:37:53,743 --> 01:37:54,870
You okay, Chad? You okay?

1958
01:37:54,937 --> 01:37:56,163
Okay.

1959
01:37:56,230 --> 01:37:57,555
I'll see you for next time.

1960
01:37:57,622 --> 01:37:59,743
Okay. Do we have any change orders
you're going to talk

1961
01:37:59,810 --> 01:38:01,632
about before they get on the agenda?

1962
01:38:01,699 --> 01:38:02,532
No.

1963
01:38:02,599 --> 01:38:04,851
Very briefly in light of the earlier
proclamation,

1964
01:38:04,918 --> 01:38:06,840
the library does have rotating
collections at both

1965
01:38:06,907 --> 01:38:10,321
uh, Gury Valley Place and Burwood.

1966
01:38:10,388 --> 01:38:11,614
Oh, okay.

1967
01:38:11,681 --> 01:38:13,404
Sarah, since since I did ask is there
anything,

1968
01:38:13,471 --> 01:38:17,449
do you want to talk about find your
Fort Madison?

1969
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:19,272
Sure.

1970
01:38:19,339 --> 01:38:20,366
You you might as well.

1971
01:38:20,433 --> 01:38:22,355
You go so we can hear you

1972
01:38:22,422 --> 01:38:25,803
and if we have viewers at home.

1973
01:38:26,996 --> 01:38:29,117
So we're starting a program next week
at the library

1974
01:38:29,184 --> 01:38:30,311
called Find Your Fort Madison,

1975
01:38:30,378 --> 01:38:33,294
where we're going to highlight local
uh businesses, events,

1976
01:38:33,361 --> 01:38:37,371
uh groups that are people in the
community may not know of.

1977
01:38:37,438 --> 01:38:39,261
We're starting off with Hinterland
Dairy next to

1978
01:38:39,328 --> 01:38:41,715
uh, yes, next Tuesday.

1979
01:38:41,914 --> 01:38:45,228
Um, and then we're going to have Swed
coffee in October.

1980
01:38:45,295 --> 01:38:47,217
I'm going to try and get um, the
Shafer Museum

1981
01:38:47,284 --> 01:38:49,206
in November and kind of, I've got a
list

1982
01:38:49,273 --> 01:38:51,195
I'm working my way through

1983
01:38:51,262 --> 01:38:53,748
for the upcoming year.

1984
01:38:53,848 --> 01:38:56,167
Um, so if you know of a business or
group that would

1985
01:38:56,234 --> 01:38:58,156
enjoy being featured, have them reach
out to me.

1986
01:38:58,223 --> 01:39:00,145
I'm I'm wide open to bring people in
and uh see

1987
01:39:00,212 --> 01:39:01,903
what we can do to

1988
01:39:03,494 --> 01:39:05,516
just kind of get people to know
what's going on

1989
01:39:05,583 --> 01:39:07,273
and it starts at 6.

1990
01:39:07,472 --> 01:39:08,599
Yes.

1991
01:39:08,666 --> 01:39:09,499
Yep.

1992
01:39:09,566 --> 01:39:10,399
Awesome.

1993
01:39:10,466 --> 01:39:12,242
Is it like a presentation of those
businesses?

1994
01:39:12,309 --> 01:39:13,142
Yes.

1995
01:39:13,209 --> 01:39:14,042
Yeah.

1996
01:39:14,109 --> 01:39:16,230
And in the case of places that deal
in food, we're trying

1997
01:39:16,297 --> 01:39:17,920
to bring in samples. So,

1998
01:39:17,987 --> 01:39:19,213
So, and I may see if

1999
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:21,202
may we may do like if I can get sha

2000
01:39:21,269 --> 01:39:22,694
and we may work with

2001
01:39:22,761 --> 01:39:24,683
them to maybe do a door prize for a
shaver pin,

2002
01:39:24,750 --> 01:39:26,938
that sort of thing.

2003
01:39:27,037 --> 01:39:29,225
So, we're going to try to have little
fun little giveaways.

2004
01:39:30,021 --> 01:39:31,545
Thank you. You appreciate that.

2005
01:39:31,612 --> 01:39:33,004
for adult program.

2006
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:35,841
Okay, I think staff is good this
evening.

2007
01:39:35,908 --> 01:39:38,606
Um, our legal Dan is um, already off
to go finish

2008
01:39:38,673 --> 01:39:43,081
seeing the rest of his son's little
football game.

2009
01:39:43,148 --> 01:39:46,462
Mhm. And hats all catching some big
fish, so.

2010
01:39:46,529 --> 01:39:48,021
Oh, no problem.

2011
01:39:48,319 --> 01:39:50,241
So now we move on to the council
communications and

2012
01:39:50,308 --> 01:39:51,534
mayor announcements.

2013
01:39:51,601 --> 01:39:53,344
So Jerry, we're going to start with
you down there.

2014
01:39:53,411 --> 01:39:54,883
Hey guys, tell you.

2015
01:39:55,082 --> 01:39:56,129
Right now.

2016
01:39:56,196 --> 01:39:57,029
Vested.

2017
01:39:57,096 --> 01:39:58,056
No.

2018
01:39:58,123 --> 01:39:59,150
It's waiting enough.

2019
01:39:59,217 --> 01:40:00,543
Angela.

2020
01:40:00,808 --> 01:40:02,134
can't

2021
01:40:02,887 --> 01:40:04,444
[laughter]
Okay, I'm gonna follow suit

2022
01:40:04,511 --> 01:40:06,519
and nothing here either.

2023
01:40:06,586 --> 01:40:09,784
So, 7078 PM, the meeting is journed.

2024
01:40:09,851 --> 01:40:12,742
[laughter]

2025
01:40:13,488 --> 01:40:14,538
on and on and on

2026
01:40:14,605 --> 01:40:15,438
because you

2027
01:40:15,505 --> 01:40:16,531
You said A.A.

2028
01:40:16,598 --> 01:40:17,525
[laughter]

2029
01:40:17,592 --> 01:40:18,425
I'm so sorry.

2030
01:40:18,492 --> 01:40:20,864
You should have just You should just
on and on