1 00:00:00,420 --> 00:00:05,360 it's a strange New World we're here oh yeah 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:13,799 all right then I'll call FB daughter 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:22,320 roll call Charles judgment here Nick Carlos 4 00:00:17,699 --> 00:00:25,320 Gary Keller here Ralph Carlson Aaron 5 00:00:26,119 --> 00:00:34,079 okay yeah boy bands 6 00:00:30,660 --> 00:00:39,020 20 24th Street recommendations uh last meeting I asked for five streets 7 00:00:40,140 --> 00:00:49,920 and I've got mine here you are you are a Italian 8 00:00:45,140 --> 00:00:49,920 uh yeah I can do that too 9 00:00:52,340 --> 00:01:01,920 I didn't make it last I can tell you Charles 10 00:00:59,340 --> 00:01:06,240 yeah Charles I don't know I had number one on mine was Crescent Drive 11 00:01:04,320 --> 00:01:10,799 because we postponed that one for some minute time okay got it I drove it today 12 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:16,320 yeah police Circle Drive yep 13 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:21,119 Seventh Street to any 14 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:26,540 on brick streets I believe at 7th street from where where did Crawford daddy oh 15 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,540 okay 16 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,720 I had 17 00:01:30,299 --> 00:01:38,759 Burke Street and there's a place over on you know it depends on when you get to 18 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:42,140 Brick streets whether you're trying to 19 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:47,180 make them look good or make them passable 20 00:01:48,180 --> 00:01:57,320 places in Judson that's hard to be passable 21 00:01:53,460 --> 00:01:57,320 and there's places overall 22 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:05,219 say from National West or from on wall and 23 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:11,039 National West 24 00:02:07,140 --> 00:02:16,440 that or the passionate in the past but it's all done with concrete tried to 25 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:20,040 make it look like Craig so if you're looking for something for 26 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:25,280 terrorists that go down through there that nothing 27 00:02:21,540 --> 00:02:25,280 it looked very good was passing 28 00:02:27,900 --> 00:02:37,200 I had Lee Circle Drive because we passed that one up several times one of the 29 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:40,260 things I've seen on I drew yesterday and today drove a lot of 30 00:02:39,180 --> 00:02:44,760 streets The Brick Street one of the nicest brick 31 00:02:42,660 --> 00:02:50,400 streets we have is I guess going on Main Street 32 00:02:47,940 --> 00:02:54,239 but one of the things that until you get up close to the high school ten to 33 00:02:52,140 --> 00:02:57,900 there's a couple of places they're 10 to 11. 34 00:02:55,319 --> 00:03:02,280 but I say this all over on the brick streets 35 00:02:58,980 --> 00:03:06,599 is it looks like we need to spray them because we've got 36 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:11,940 grass growing up in between them which is going to destroy 37 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:18,540 a lot of that stuff because that creates 38 00:03:14,099 --> 00:03:22,260 voids too crazy fall that 39 00:03:19,739 --> 00:03:25,140 you could save a lot of those areas just by 40 00:03:23,159 --> 00:03:31,940 spring and hopefully Alberta 41 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,940 a lot of work in there in the future 42 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:43,140 most of the area that I saw them with needed stuff was on 43 00:03:39,900 --> 00:03:49,200 except for aggressive Drive I didn't think Arapahoe did myself 44 00:03:46,739 --> 00:03:52,019 okay over there it wouldn't hurt it wouldn't hurt more trash 45 00:03:51,239 --> 00:03:58,260 yeah but it's a hard and kind of 46 00:03:55,500 --> 00:04:00,379 big you know case project yeah 47 00:04:01,159 --> 00:04:07,739 and I've talked well if they didn't just see it was cracks yeah to have to get a 48 00:04:06,060 --> 00:04:11,420 spot for a year or something when there's a lot of the streets that 49 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,540 could be overly 23rd Street 50 00:04:14,599 --> 00:04:21,199 Highway 69 going to Horton eventually it needs to be overlay 51 00:04:22,860 --> 00:04:29,400 it was limited funds this is kind of where and bird streets another Street 52 00:04:28,020 --> 00:04:34,320 that's beautiful brick streets really difficult 53 00:04:32,100 --> 00:04:39,120 to be passable in a lot of area I mean you've got to go slow 54 00:04:36,780 --> 00:04:45,900 and that's a whole lot of spaces and Justin and Crawford at the same way 55 00:04:42,780 --> 00:04:50,759 I was uh I was kind of comparing this year's tape field to our recommendations 56 00:04:48,900 --> 00:04:56,400 for this year and uh we got one point in there 57 00:04:53,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Tomahawk playing yeah I didn't 58 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:06,139 it has been it's been in that crash field and all that decent House of cape 59 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:06,139 on it 60 00:05:06,180 --> 00:05:11,240 that would work but that's just about a block 61 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:24,479 it's just three of us here I guess so yeah all right let me let me 62 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:29,759 read off pleats here so we got that out there on the table uh complete you're 63 00:05:27,419 --> 00:05:37,460 obviously chime in comment on these as you recall Lomond street from second to 64 00:05:35,039 --> 00:05:37,460 fifth 65 00:05:37,620 --> 00:05:46,620 is that is that a Brick Street it's all brick except the block here okay and the 66 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:51,539 asphalt is in shambles there okay okay uh at least you need to be taken it up 67 00:05:49,139 --> 00:05:54,960 go back to Brick or put an 68 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:59,820 okay you've got East Oak Street from 69 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:06,479 Washington to Brown a lot of a lot of cracks uh I did say 70 00:06:04,020 --> 00:06:10,740 table is Pine Street uh yeah a lot of a lot of cracks there 71 00:06:09,060 --> 00:06:14,520 and uh if you don't if we don't do something 72 00:06:12,539 --> 00:06:19,380 with it we're going to lose them yeah you got those East Oak Street and 73 00:06:16,979 --> 00:06:25,280 East Pine Street both both of them from Washington to brown right how many 74 00:06:21,180 --> 00:06:25,280 blocks is that from why oh yeah 75 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:36,060 probably about five or six about five kids five or six for each of those yeah 76 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:40,860 okay okay and then Highland 77 00:06:38,940 --> 00:06:45,960 and this one we talked about a couple of years ago actually you got it from 78 00:06:43,020 --> 00:06:52,500 Second Street to Park Avenue right and Park Avenue is the entrance to gun right 79 00:06:49,380 --> 00:06:57,479 yeah so essentially this that's pretty much all of Highland Street yeah okay 80 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:07,199 yeah it's a pretty bad shape and then you've got finally Crawford from first 81 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:13,199 to third that's rough it's got a lot of it's got a lot of seabed patches in it 82 00:07:10,500 --> 00:07:18,240 over brick okay and uh if 83 00:07:15,479 --> 00:07:22,319 if the crew is gonna do some work on that wide 84 00:07:19,919 --> 00:07:27,360 I'd like to see it the safe concrete daughter the bricks like that right I 85 00:07:25,319 --> 00:07:34,259 recall wasn't Crawford Street in that vicinity it wasn't there just a real 86 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:39,740 nasty bath to first to uh and Justin yeah right yeah that has been that has 87 00:07:37,620 --> 00:07:43,319 been addressed that one real real bad they didn't they did some work on that 88 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:50,460 it is 100 bucks from Wall Street to First 89 00:07:46,860 --> 00:07:56,819 Street okay and uh there was some bad holes there I think you hit one time oh 90 00:07:53,160 --> 00:08:01,280 yeah and uh they've been repaired those look pretty good 91 00:07:58,139 --> 00:08:01,280 they did 92 00:08:01,380 --> 00:08:09,300 um the ones that I have and it kind of 93 00:08:06,479 --> 00:08:12,860 thick kind of Echoes what Jerry said is the Crescent Drive 94 00:08:13,020 --> 00:08:16,020 and 95 00:08:16,620 --> 00:08:19,400 Lee Circle 96 00:08:19,620 --> 00:08:27,360 I still have Arapahoe and how that's how that is to be treated 97 00:08:24,300 --> 00:08:32,820 I guess is up for discussion but maybe not even us but somebody can weigh 98 00:08:30,660 --> 00:08:38,580 in on what is the best best treatment of that uh 99 00:08:35,580 --> 00:08:43,200 at Tomahawk Lane I maybe I 100 00:08:41,099 --> 00:08:46,320 don't remember it correctly but it seems to me one of the members of our Advisory 101 00:08:45,540 --> 00:08:54,000 Board was contacted by a resident out on top 102 00:08:49,440 --> 00:09:00,000 of life that was it you yeah okay and they said we don't necessarily are 103 00:08:57,060 --> 00:09:03,320 asking for a rebuild of our street but could we at least 104 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:21,720 sweeper out here okay okay and and protected get Butts yeah 105 00:09:17,779 --> 00:09:25,920 no roots anyway right right because they had a discrete was all cracked up and it 106 00:09:23,700 --> 00:09:33,200 has to be able to see them uh 107 00:09:27,959 --> 00:09:33,200 I know it was on the 2023 Cape Cinema 108 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:44,279 so I thought I thought what a great story you talk about the squeaky wheel 109 00:09:41,940 --> 00:09:49,100 I mean it started out can you just run a sweeper through here and now it's off 110 00:09:46,740 --> 00:09:54,899 the cape ceiling yeah the gentleman approach stay at Walmart 111 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:59,820 and I talked about whatever I said we're just in a library board but I'll do what 112 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:03,300 we can sure and again we're trying to put 100 on the list but they didn't make 113 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:06,959 it yeah there you go 114 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:12,800 um I've also uh Gary I've got the same one 7th Street Crawford to Eddie 115 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,800 uh 116 00:10:12,839 --> 00:10:17,820 I think those are the ones we had had in common 117 00:10:16,380 --> 00:10:20,600 so uh 118 00:10:20,940 --> 00:10:27,060 recorded already leave the hot bottles hopefully this thing I know that it gets 119 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:32,100 to be a pretty long list but it looks like completed list unless 120 00:10:30,060 --> 00:10:38,820 you feel differently it looks to me like we at least have some consensus on on 121 00:10:36,060 --> 00:10:43,560 Crescent well do what we can right yeah Lee Circle 122 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:49,320 was was always I thought kind of a tag along with horrible like hey while we're 123 00:10:46,860 --> 00:10:54,060 there if we send some money up to do whatever now Horton is going to be not 124 00:10:52,019 --> 00:10:59,760 addressed until next year but maybe Lee Circle can go into a cape 125 00:10:58,860 --> 00:11:06,779 seal list rather than being part of the whole 126 00:11:03,300 --> 00:11:11,880 Horton yeah Tom Tomahawk is being treated similar to that 127 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,880 right 128 00:11:17,820 --> 00:11:25,140 um 7th Street Crawford Eddy that is a Brick 129 00:11:21,180 --> 00:11:28,500 Street with yeah with some swiss cheese going on there 130 00:11:27,779 --> 00:11:36,120 um and Arapahoe I'm hearing a consensus for 131 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:39,660 considering some crack repair right okay and then 132 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:43,440 uh now 133 00:11:40,860 --> 00:11:49,260 I'll just ask this highland that is a street that really needs some if they 134 00:11:45,899 --> 00:11:56,700 make their stuff but but the the extent of that from second to Park Avenue 135 00:11:52,440 --> 00:12:02,300 is that 10 blocks I mean it's on 8th Street it'd be closed uh close to 136 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:07,399 it 90 90 something like that 137 00:12:05,399 --> 00:12:07,399 um 138 00:12:09,980 --> 00:12:16,820 what do you think you're right can we get you know 139 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:22,680 um these are just recommendations that's what I said where are you 140 00:12:20,519 --> 00:12:26,760 and stop where you're trying to pick just four or five for 141 00:12:24,899 --> 00:12:32,220 the next year and then something to add to that huh Wyoming is bad it should go 142 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:36,839 past salmon and there's two or three other streets yeah yeah that whole area 143 00:12:35,100 --> 00:12:40,740 in there probably could be redone right 144 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:43,519 looking for one of the traffic is right now yeah 145 00:12:45,420 --> 00:12:50,600 okay and we don't uh 146 00:12:51,839 --> 00:13:00,300 I don't know how much traffic goes down through there dude 147 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:06,240 well it's it's a it's a residential I I would say that the traffic my guess is I 148 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:12,240 haven't looked at the map might pick up a little bit 149 00:13:07,980 --> 00:13:19,980 between 8th Street and Park because if you wanted to get to gun Park 150 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:24,839 you could go up work and then down the hill or you can sure you could go West 151 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:33,360 on 8th Street to Highland take a left turn and go 152 00:13:29,399 --> 00:13:39,600 to it's like two blocks to park and that might be a more 153 00:13:36,899 --> 00:13:43,139 you say does anyone know howlman's not one that I've checked does it work 154 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:49,320 underneath there that I do not know I I would be 155 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:54,800 surprised and I may be brick in the northern part of it perhaps I don't 156 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,800 think it is 157 00:13:56,220 --> 00:14:01,760 all right I haven't seen any evidence of that for Pharrell 158 00:14:08,639 --> 00:14:15,959 yeah if they make it a lot possible yeah 159 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:24,120 yeah so you you think we would be prudent of just limiting the heilman 160 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:24,120 piece of this to eighth to park yeah 161 00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:33,019 for uh this is for next year I would say if you're going to take to it you just 162 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:33,019 go all the way do the whole thing yeah 163 00:14:36,540 --> 00:14:39,650 [Music] 164 00:14:44,399 --> 00:14:50,959 at least how we get it done okay we'll we'll crack seal it we'll pothole 165 00:14:49,620 --> 00:14:56,160 patches certainly it'd be a lot better than it 166 00:14:53,279 --> 00:15:00,240 is now yeah but we'd have to put you know put some time and do it eight 167 00:14:58,860 --> 00:15:03,480 blocks it's either three blocks or eight blocks 168 00:15:01,980 --> 00:15:08,880 it don't really matter when he keeps you know so yeah 169 00:15:06,199 --> 00:15:12,920 okay okay good to know 170 00:15:10,740 --> 00:15:12,920 um 171 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:22,560 you've got you've got a list of what we've been talking about yeah okay got 172 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:26,940 it written down so what do you think I can't disagree with any of it I mean I 173 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:31,620 don't know Crescent Drive I really have I can go 174 00:15:30,180 --> 00:15:36,800 drive it tomorrow I haven't really put too much time in that one leave Circle 175 00:15:34,380 --> 00:15:36,800 Drive 176 00:15:37,079 --> 00:15:44,240 you're probably not much work that's been going on up there so I would say 177 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,240 that's the need to cry 178 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:55,139 I know we've got to work on those and I'm not a big 179 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:59,699 I don't like the concrete patches and Bricks I don't think either do one or 180 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:05,720 the other you're gonna use your regular concrete don't don't put concrete into 181 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:05,720 the brakes yeah because 182 00:16:06,899 --> 00:16:13,620 you know we have visitors come in and we take the trolley tours and it would be 183 00:16:11,579 --> 00:16:18,300 nice that those streets that they go down brick 184 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:22,139 they can patch as much as possible but even take some of those old concrete 185 00:16:20,639 --> 00:16:27,120 patches out prepare them with brick when you get the 186 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:31,800 opportunity sure Bennett uh we did a big section right out of our 187 00:16:29,220 --> 00:16:35,959 door our back door that was concrete they redid it with bricks but we need to 188 00:16:34,260 --> 00:16:42,180 go back and do some more still there's only just right right 189 00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:45,959 outside yeah yeah that was pretty good I would wear it section right you know 190 00:16:43,980 --> 00:16:49,740 we're we're not uh we're not the only generation that's had problems with 191 00:16:47,820 --> 00:16:52,740 bricks trees here 192 00:16:53,060 --> 00:17:03,180 David August 27 1922. and it reads residents along with six 193 00:17:00,899 --> 00:17:06,600 blocks of New Brick pavement on National Avenue 194 00:17:04,380 --> 00:17:11,280 7 to 13. are complaining that the county and City 195 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:16,740 and Road forces have been driving heavily loaded trucks over the good 196 00:17:14,220 --> 00:17:21,780 thing that causing some damage these residents content that to pay the 197 00:17:19,380 --> 00:17:25,400 degree that heavy traffic concerns should run and dead the surface 198 00:17:26,459 --> 00:17:31,940 so they would have the problems back then 199 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,940 huh 200 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,620 well that could have been in the paper last week 201 00:17:36,919 --> 00:17:46,620 wow wow okay I've been with the brick policy or Virginia 202 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:51,240 Board as far as streets I've got a pothole but that could be later okay 203 00:17:48,660 --> 00:17:54,799 okay admitted to break the policy approved by City Commission 204 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,720 you want to take that back 205 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:09,299 based upon the uh the conversations that we had at the last Street advisory 206 00:18:06,299 --> 00:18:14,000 meaning this was the amendment that I presented to the city Commission 207 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:20,340 to move forward with a couple of projects that it's the street workers 208 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:24,179 were fixing to do wanted to make sure that we were going to follow the rules 209 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:29,940 that we're establishing so this is the policy that was presented it talks about 210 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:33,179 manhole covers and being able to patch concrete around the manhole covers up to 211 00:18:32,039 --> 00:18:39,240 12 inches the end based on the conversations we 212 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:43,559 all had about the intersections on any of the asphalt of letting up against the 213 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:49,440 brick streets it would be the asphalt side that would be cut out anywhere up 214 00:18:46,380 --> 00:18:53,160 to 20 feet back and then it lays out the specifications for how thick the 215 00:18:50,940 --> 00:18:58,919 concrete needs to be with spacing on the green bar and then on a asphalt Street 216 00:18:56,820 --> 00:19:04,559 where brick roads are budding up against it it would be the asphalt intersection 217 00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:10,320 in the field that would get removed so that we're only putting the concrete 218 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:15,419 aprons or intersections within the asphalt area and not disturbing the 219 00:19:12,780 --> 00:19:20,580 bricks as you know I've I've been uh 220 00:19:18,179 --> 00:19:25,799 but not drive around town I've noticed several places where that's already been 221 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:29,400 done so I don't exactly the one up I haven't noticed it before you brought it 222 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:34,200 up they there have been times in the past that 223 00:19:31,260 --> 00:19:40,620 it had just been done there was no policy board there was no we 224 00:19:37,799 --> 00:19:45,299 in light of the the Brick Street policy that was passed earlier this year we had 225 00:19:43,260 --> 00:19:51,000 pretty much laid out some new ground rules and so those under that policy 226 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:53,820 would have not been allowed but now with this amendment they can go ahead and do 227 00:19:52,740 --> 00:19:58,500 that because the way Brad put it and talking with the 228 00:19:55,980 --> 00:20:02,640 street guys and several others to me it makes sense because it does help 229 00:20:00,299 --> 00:20:06,600 preserve the bricks it stops that movement of the bricks where the 230 00:20:04,020 --> 00:20:12,660 vehicles are coming to a stop right up against the bricks and so everything I I 231 00:20:10,020 --> 00:20:16,799 see about it I like other than it's not red brick and I can live with that 232 00:20:14,940 --> 00:20:21,780 because it's better for the streets it's better for everything else 233 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:27,660 just a real quick question also on the on the first one it says allow up to 12 234 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:31,919 inches in a square pattern around the manholes 235 00:20:28,860 --> 00:20:37,140 the I'm understanding that to be 12 inches 236 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:42,240 from the edge of the manhole is that right it is if you had a 12 inch by 12 237 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:47,220 inch square the manhole wouldn't sit and rust I just want to make sure that 238 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:52,740 that you're you're measuring at 12 inches from from north south east west 239 00:20:50,820 --> 00:20:56,940 and that's what's making the square yes okay and that was based upon that was 240 00:20:55,260 --> 00:21:03,260 based upon recommendations from our street crew right on how easy it would 241 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:08,400 be to place that square and then uh and to place the brick up against it it 242 00:21:05,940 --> 00:21:12,240 is yeah uh Jerry Morgan um made the comment that when they were 243 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:16,500 running and I told you all about that when you're running me 244 00:21:13,700 --> 00:21:20,100 blades during the winter today 245 00:21:18,059 --> 00:21:24,720 yeah in the brick streets where there were no concrete aprons around the 246 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:29,760 manholes when they hit the edge of that manhole launched the mantle cover like a 247 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:34,980 hockey puck down the street yeah so by coming back at least 12 inches it causes 248 00:21:33,179 --> 00:21:40,260 that blade to pop a little and it may chip the edge of the concrete but then 249 00:21:37,620 --> 00:21:44,220 it goes over the manhole and Smooths everything out right there that'll be 250 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:48,539 kind of almost recessed into the this was the apron around around it he 251 00:21:46,919 --> 00:21:52,740 just kind of swung the other day where it was 252 00:21:49,740 --> 00:21:58,500 weird it was a concrete around it but it was like in a diamond shape where the 253 00:21:55,320 --> 00:22:03,240 brick was not going up against it I thought how weird is that I mean don't 254 00:22:00,539 --> 00:22:07,440 you want it to be lined up so that the brick yeah you wanted a piece quarter be 255 00:22:05,340 --> 00:22:10,500 square square it up you want it yes we want it to be that way there and I 256 00:22:09,299 --> 00:22:14,520 talked to three different street Engineers about 257 00:22:12,659 --> 00:22:18,720 it when we were having the discussions and one of the street engineers said 258 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:23,340 that there was a point a while back where they were making them diamond 259 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:29,580 shaped because they thought that that gave more lateral strength when the 260 00:22:26,460 --> 00:22:32,940 vehicles were driving across it he didn't have anything to back that up 261 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:37,020 other than he said that that was a thought that they had for a while so 262 00:22:34,980 --> 00:22:43,100 there are a few throughout town that are done with that diamond pattern based 263 00:22:38,820 --> 00:22:47,400 upon that rationale right okay in that square pattern in line with the 264 00:22:45,659 --> 00:22:52,580 bricks so it's easy to stack the bricks up against them another thing on this a 265 00:22:52,620 --> 00:22:58,380 it's not going to happen tomorrow or next week but it's we would also like to 266 00:22:57,179 --> 00:23:05,400 see the water I mean the water mains and 267 00:23:02,039 --> 00:23:10,260 that because if you've ever driven a dump truck with a blade on it for snow 268 00:23:07,820 --> 00:23:18,600 you hit one of those covers about knocks you out of the truck 269 00:23:13,260 --> 00:23:23,580 so I'd like to do that also on those and basically it's about cover it's what 270 00:23:20,820 --> 00:23:29,120 it's called Water Valley cover but are these the ones that are about six inches 271 00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:35,820 yes diameter and that's kind of silver it's got a grid that says water right on 272 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:40,500 top of yeah right I know over a 12th Street at Main Street 12th of May 273 00:23:38,340 --> 00:23:44,760 there's three of them right there in the middle of the road and it would look so 274 00:23:42,059 --> 00:23:50,640 much better if that was Square concrete with those in it you 275 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:54,059 think you need the full 12 inches around those or you could buy with something a 276 00:23:52,860 --> 00:23:57,059 little smaller okay 277 00:23:58,380 --> 00:24:04,740 I'd have to give or take a guy and see maybe give it to guys and ask their 278 00:24:02,340 --> 00:24:10,320 opinions and look at them you can get back to you on that one okay 279 00:24:08,460 --> 00:24:15,000 just want to be consistent whatever we do we can sure 280 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:18,480 this is past August one so this has already been approved by the commission 281 00:24:16,620 --> 00:24:22,740 yes sir gotcha I wanted to go ahead and get it through because they were looking 282 00:24:19,919 --> 00:24:28,320 at repairing those intersections there where Maine and National meet and wanted 283 00:24:26,460 --> 00:24:32,360 to make sure that we were following within the ordinance when we made those 284 00:24:29,820 --> 00:24:32,360 repairs 285 00:24:34,620 --> 00:24:38,659 okay more distressing on that 286 00:24:39,539 --> 00:24:42,440 go to do business 287 00:24:42,539 --> 00:24:49,880 discussion a number of current board members 288 00:24:45,659 --> 00:24:49,880 lack of interest to film vacancies 289 00:24:50,220 --> 00:24:58,320 our terms will expire December 31st 2023. all three of you 290 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,880 all right oh all five of them 291 00:25:02,159 --> 00:25:09,120 it's in your packet there you can see that was what I found along 292 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:13,919 I'm surprised they haven't expired already well we were talking about that 293 00:25:11,460 --> 00:25:19,200 I think they said I think they had it inspired by mine expired the last few 294 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:25,140 steps I think mine did too yes uh 295 00:25:21,679 --> 00:25:30,179 I don't know I acquired about it it's disappointing that there's not 296 00:25:27,779 --> 00:25:36,900 looking at our pages that we need younger Generations 297 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:43,500 Matthew don't you have some friends out there that are 298 00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:47,640 I will appears that would be interested in the 299 00:25:45,059 --> 00:25:51,720 serving their community and I have a couple people that I will 300 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:56,880 definitely reach out to yeah and ask them to step up to the plate yes 301 00:25:54,179 --> 00:26:01,380 I mean this is a similar problem of Civic organizations we need 302 00:25:59,700 --> 00:26:07,140 Young Blood Yeah a different old perspectives 303 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:12,659 you know it's it doesn't occupy a huge amount of time I don't know and it I 304 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:16,640 don't know how how and why but these meanings don't end up being nasty 305 00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:21,360 meetings I mean nobody's throwing darts nobody's 306 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:27,000 throwing stuff it's pretty yeah no it would be nice to have 307 00:26:23,159 --> 00:26:32,279 have different Generations perspective because we've seen it for 50 years yeah 308 00:26:30,059 --> 00:26:37,140 six years whatever you need something it might not be also 309 00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:43,020 bad they could consider having some gals yes I'm not qualified yeah I mean you 310 00:26:40,679 --> 00:26:48,440 know anybody drives our streets I didn't give up my positions or whatever 311 00:26:46,140 --> 00:26:54,980 take home you notice Gary didn't ask me if I had a 312 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:54,980 friend 313 00:26:59,940 --> 00:27:07,679 do you remember the story about president Herbert Hoover in the height 314 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:14,419 of the depression he was the most well he was not a very popular fellow 315 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:19,980 and as The Story Goes Herbert Hoover once uh once asked someone could I 316 00:27:16,980 --> 00:27:24,799 borrow a nickel to phone a friend and the guy gave a dime and said call 317 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:29,000 both of them she wouldn't make a quarter round 318 00:27:30,659 --> 00:27:33,620 foreign 319 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:43,200 how many are we opened right now two two so we're supposed to have seven right 320 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:49,559 right so yeah we need to start recruiting I think 321 00:27:46,020 --> 00:27:56,279 last time didn't we also uh open it up to the three three mile Zone yeah right 322 00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:00,980 it Gary's into three months so so about it to one of the yard but I got here 323 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:10,100 because that include the light for three months part of the lake probably yeah 324 00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:10,100 very colored part case 325 00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:19,320 yeah it says one one can be in the three mile 326 00:28:17,580 --> 00:28:24,360 counting Zone a three mile outside of the 327 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:31,380 oh that's me okay here's and here's what I got it's 328 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,380 ordinance number 3556. 329 00:28:31,860 --> 00:28:39,539 uh so the four Scott's freed Advisory Board shell recommend and make 330 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:45,240 suggestions to the city manager and governing body regarding Street 331 00:28:41,539 --> 00:28:49,140 preparing at Brick Street located within the city limits of towards Chicago in 332 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:54,480 addition to forms you'll make recommendations and reporters to 333 00:28:51,559 --> 00:29:02,600 everybody on all manner within a reasonable time 334 00:28:57,779 --> 00:29:02,600 that that's up to what I saw involved 335 00:29:12,140 --> 00:29:22,320 under number four section before okay 336 00:29:18,899 --> 00:29:27,899 my current expired cleats has already expired yeah 337 00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:30,919 Charles expires this year 338 00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:41,100 which this prevents someone from being reappointed right but that's what I was 339 00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:45,419 told just sure go on go on keep doing yeah 340 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:51,600 maybe there should be some Unwritten rule that if you decide 341 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:55,679 if you don't want to continue that you can find your replacement or find 342 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,860 someone who's interested in replacing them 343 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:04,919 it's up to the commission to make the appointments of course but at least we 344 00:30:02,159 --> 00:30:07,159 can get out get to get some names going there 345 00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:14,640 first song completed with my understanding that when there's the lack 346 00:30:12,539 --> 00:30:17,419 of interest when we put the letter you know the invitation out and we wouldn't 347 00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:23,820 get interests then it would be opened up for 348 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:27,360 sitting members to continue to so that we could have a forum according to the 349 00:30:25,980 --> 00:30:30,440 ordinance so that's how that 350 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,940 it's kind of how it's like going with all of our boards 351 00:30:35,820 --> 00:30:38,960 are people 352 00:30:39,899 --> 00:30:48,179 pretty satisfied with what's going on with the streets in town in terms of the 353 00:30:45,779 --> 00:30:53,039 do you still get a lot of calls oh yeah let me call their day I'll be 354 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:57,299 down the street oh yeah yeah that's most of them I mean it's a 355 00:30:54,960 --> 00:31:01,559 I think to answer your question people are happy to see things are getting done 356 00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:08,460 and we they like seeing that we're doing 101 357 00:31:04,860 --> 00:31:12,419 Cooper Street has done but like brick jobs and 358 00:31:09,899 --> 00:31:16,500 12th Street 10th Street I mean they they see things getting done they like they 359 00:31:14,820 --> 00:31:20,520 appreciate that um is there going to be what you said 360 00:31:18,659 --> 00:31:25,620 pothole here and there yeah oh yeah I mean that's right 361 00:31:22,020 --> 00:31:29,640 we we it's it's a long process for that I mean that's going to be a while and 362 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:34,200 once we get back to laying bricks we'll get some things done but you know one 363 00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:38,460 one street you didn't put on your list I said The Brick Street is 364 00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:43,679 right here on third all the way past the board office on Main yeah that's uh I 365 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:48,140 just that's a blind landline through there so yeah we had that on last year 366 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,140 well 367 00:31:52,620 --> 00:31:58,020 it'll take that could be a whole winter project 368 00:31:55,799 --> 00:32:00,480 well you know other than the the kind of the 369 00:31:58,740 --> 00:32:04,679 town hall meeting or whatever you want to call it that we had on the Brick 370 00:32:01,740 --> 00:32:10,380 Street policy I don't remember anyone from the public coming to any of our 371 00:32:06,899 --> 00:32:17,820 meetings to uh you know to voice anything about about it so the only time 372 00:32:14,159 --> 00:32:21,539 that we had people here was when they we advertised it would be a question and 373 00:32:20,399 --> 00:32:26,159 answers period right 374 00:32:23,460 --> 00:32:31,580 and one of the fellas that got it said I would do away for extreme 375 00:32:28,140 --> 00:32:35,840 yeah but it's lazy got up and talked they went before then yeah I think I'm 376 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:39,500 going to get rid of brick streets yeah downtown yeah 377 00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:48,059 to answer your question I mean I think the citizens are 378 00:32:44,820 --> 00:32:51,899 happy things are going on but they know we've got a lot to go and 379 00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:56,700 we get a lot of things on our app 380 00:32:53,820 --> 00:33:02,460 that tells us the potholes here or a problem area is here 381 00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:07,440 and we're pretty responsive to that one that does trigger something I wanted 382 00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:13,380 to bring up at some point if I if I could yeah 383 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:21,179 um the the special use sales tax half cent that was adopted for 90 384 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:24,480 streets 10 Parks yes so I got that remembered right 385 00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:30,539 um it has what another two years 386 00:33:27,899 --> 00:33:36,899 that was it for 10 years one five five yeah I'm pretty sure it's five but 387 00:33:34,919 --> 00:33:41,460 if it's five I think there's two work years yeah 388 00:33:38,460 --> 00:33:48,360 um we had I think before at least put out there the idea 389 00:33:44,340 --> 00:33:55,700 of some kind of a movable thank you sign or acknowledgment sign so 390 00:33:52,500 --> 00:34:02,580 that when a street is redone chipped sealed Cape sealed 391 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:06,240 whatever that that there could be at least 392 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:12,960 you know this this street Improvement made possible by the half cent sales tax 393 00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:16,980 thank you you know what I mean and I say that because if it is five 394 00:34:15,839 --> 00:34:23,159 years it will expire unless the voters 395 00:34:20,339 --> 00:34:29,760 vote to continue it and 396 00:34:25,020 --> 00:34:33,960 um a little good PR a little yeah yeah I mean it's just one of those things you 397 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:38,760 don't want to take for granted you know the 398 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:43,440 support of folks to continue it yeah we want to you know yeah if that would be 399 00:34:40,619 --> 00:34:51,240 taken away uh we'd be back pain square one with a minimal amount of money spent 400 00:34:47,339 --> 00:34:55,940 on the streets yeah exactly so can we order a bunch of those The Cheap Signs 401 00:34:53,520 --> 00:35:02,880 and just stick them off you can just have banners and put posts 402 00:34:59,339 --> 00:35:02,880 and those 403 00:35:04,859 --> 00:35:10,619 those board things so it's you know kind of little the little triangle with the 404 00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:14,400 legs and you know and you could move them you could fold them up and move it 405 00:35:12,420 --> 00:35:18,020 to the next street you know whatever so sure it would just be 406 00:35:19,859 --> 00:35:28,859 as far as the the board members and stuff they said congrat could we like 407 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:34,560 I know this would be a lot once a week put a post on whatever social media 408 00:35:31,980 --> 00:35:38,520 sites were using it'd be like these are the board member or these are the four 409 00:35:36,359 --> 00:35:43,260 positions open these are the ones we're looking for in like every week keep 410 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:48,000 reminding people these are the areas we need some extra people maybe we can read 411 00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:52,079 a few of the younger Generations through social media and if they keep seeing 412 00:35:50,820 --> 00:35:54,960 that maybe we can get somebody interested in doing some of these 413 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:59,040 positions yeah the tickets thrown on there once in a while it goes in the 414 00:35:56,700 --> 00:36:01,099 paper or goes and works got Biz it goes on 415 00:36:05,660 --> 00:36:14,599 last time but uh the other part The Other Board 416 00:36:10,740 --> 00:36:14,599 should get bigger who put it in here 417 00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:22,200 but I don't see anything on the streets no 418 00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:28,020 maybe if we I mean we might have to pay for it if we did like a display ad that 419 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:33,480 get more attention other than just a little blurb you know I don't know maybe 420 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:39,300 once in a while well you know it's it's one thing to say there are openings uh 421 00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:43,740 you know please send your letter of interest 422 00:36:41,220 --> 00:36:51,900 but it could possibly go one step further 423 00:36:47,099 --> 00:36:56,700 in in as much as it would be a a request or an offer 424 00:36:53,579 --> 00:37:03,359 would you like to help in the development 425 00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:08,520 of a plan for our future streets we or we need your help you know something 426 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:12,599 like that where where someone is not just seeing it as an opening but it's 427 00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:16,640 seeing it as an opportunity to help their Community you know what I'm saying 428 00:37:18,110 --> 00:37:25,020 [Music] or something 429 00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:30,839 would you be opposed to having a student 430 00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:35,640 on the board no no thank you above 431 00:37:32,940 --> 00:37:40,500 the FBA team well I don't know I don't know if they do or not it doesn't say 432 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:44,460 that they're technically had an age they just said we say 16 because it 433 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:50,099 should be driving but they should be driving yeah I was thinking maybe a 434 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:54,619 senior uh in high school to maybe a college 435 00:37:51,780 --> 00:38:00,240 yeah so that'd be a great idea school's gonna be starting pretty quick 436 00:37:56,820 --> 00:38:04,680 so I'll get with uh Josh Messer who's the uh one of the guidance counselors 437 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:09,420 over to high school I think our four o'clock time that would I mean if 438 00:38:06,780 --> 00:38:13,440 somebody was tied up in sports yeah that would be a problem but but 439 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:18,619 not uh Matthew has asked him before five 440 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:25,740 o'clocks that said interferes with him and so we talked about we talked about 441 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:31,820 it and said well the suburbs here but it was cool right so we will uh just go 442 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,820 ahead with four o'clock 443 00:38:33,859 --> 00:38:41,040 and uh five o'clock 444 00:38:38,579 --> 00:38:46,940 I'm all right with that but we don't interfere with any other boards on the 445 00:38:43,020 --> 00:38:46,940 second and third pick no 446 00:38:48,060 --> 00:38:58,160 are you having fun I have no problem is it is it to wreak 447 00:38:54,780 --> 00:39:02,220 havoc with staff schedules and people 448 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:10,640 oh we're good unless you start meeting for three hours or yeah yeah let's do 449 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,640 that 24 hours a day anyways 450 00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:16,160 I will not see nor will I accept 451 00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:24,660 oh my part it's on Crawford 452 00:39:22,220 --> 00:39:28,040 at at or about 7 12. 453 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:34,500 a Crawford kind of on the West Side that's 454 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:41,480 well it's the only one that that will bust the tire out excellent 455 00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:49,079 when cars park it sort of hides like No One's Gonna 456 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:55,800 gonna hit it because yeah well it's not at the curb it's like a cart with apple 457 00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:59,839 cut so but if there's no cars there it's it's ready to wreak havoc so I'll put it 458 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:04,220 on yeah on the way home thank you okay 459 00:40:05,220 --> 00:40:09,020 okay we got his head now 460 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:19,260 anything on your mind yeah well I'll take motions for 461 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:25,460 Christmas don't move okay second 462 00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:25,460 let's work it off 463 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:31,400 if you got a dog driving around you'd see a uh