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Well, I got good evening and welcome to the fourth place City

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ball directors meeting on this September.

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The first of 2026.

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At this time, keep in mind these meetings are being recorded

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for the benefit of our residents who can't be with us here

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tonight This I'm going to, as Director Camp to do

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the invocation and director Christina Savage believes

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in a pledge Would you pray with me Lord, we love you.

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We thank you for the good things that you have given to us

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Every good and perfect gift comes from above.

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We acknowledge that We thank you for the opportunities

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that you've given to us.

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I thank you for the people that are here

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tonight I thank you for the people that are watching on line

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that are engaging in the conversation of their city Lord,

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help us to seek the peace and the prosperity of the city

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that you've sent us all to put your hand a blessing.

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Be upon us And we never take it for granted.

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Give us wisdom tonight in Jesus name

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I mean allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

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and to the strength it is for every Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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This time, we'll ask Carmelo directors Rigo here.

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Good camp here George, get seven here.

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Christina get service here.

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Settle here Martin.

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Here.

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OK.

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Thank you very much for this time.

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I'll ask if there's any presentation

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by a member of the board of any item of business,

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not already on the agenda OK Seeing none,

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we'll ask for approval of the August 18 2026 regular minutes.

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So move.

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Second.

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Thank you.

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All in favor.

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Hi.

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Hi Thank you Mr. Mayor, before for item number one,

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I'd like to.

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Audience in the board know tonight

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my daughter's playing volleyball for South Side.

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Tonight's the Battle of Rogers Avenue,

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so I will be leaving sometime in the middle of the meeting

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tonight to go watch her play.

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So I'll miss the rest me for that

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since I won't be here for director's form.

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I'd like to bring something up for Director Swim real quick

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if you don't mind.

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Mayor.

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We talked a couple weeks ago about water concerning

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data centers, and I'd like the administration and Lance

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and the team potentially look at another source of water, which

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would be the discharge of the outfall out of street plant

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as a potential for charging that we discharge

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in the river for free over company

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wanted to buy that from us and clean it

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themselves Pump it themselves to where that potential place was.

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Look at that is another option of generating money out

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of something that we discharge for free as another thing Thank

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you, Mayor.

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OK.

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Thank you With that, we will go to the first item

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on the agenda, Mr. Being when you recognize.

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Thank you, mayor.

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Item one is a public hearing and an ordinance

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to vacate portions of undeveloped right of way

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Deputy city administrator Maggie Rice will speak to this item.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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The city is in receipt of a request from Satterfield Land

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Surveyors to vacate undeveloped portions of north End Street

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in an alley between north 31st Street and North 13th Street.

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In response to the petition to abandon the rights of way staff

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contacted franchise utility companies and appropriate city

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departments relative to any ongoing or future interests.

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They may have any cox Communications and Utility

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Engineering have requests of a utility easement

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to a accommodate the existing facilities located within

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the alley Staff notified property owners within 300ft.

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Today, the Planning Department has not received any phone calls

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from surrounding property owners,

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expressing objection and to the right of way abandonment

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resolution are One 7826 was approved on August 8th.

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Setting this public hearing and enclosed for your consideration

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is an ordinance abandoning the rights of way.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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You At this time we will formally

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open the public hearing.

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Madam Clerk, are there any comments on this item?

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We only have Mr. Ken Mclarnon to answer questions.

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OK Thank you very much.

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Okay.

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If there are no comments at this time,

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we will formally close the public hearing

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and ask for a motion to adopt As with suspension of the rules

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some of the suspension rules.

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Thank you, Madam Please read you on.

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If I could, Who seconded ?

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Second and second This is an ordinance

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to close and vacate a portion of North End

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Street and an alley located in Block seven and eight.

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Urbandale addition.

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In addition to the city of Fort Smith Sebastian County,

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Arkansas.

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Okay.

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Thank you for any comments Okay.

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See?

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None.

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Please call the roll directors Rigo.

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Yes.

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Kim.

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Yes George, get Savage.

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Yes.

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Christina, get savage.

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Yes, sir.

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Yes Martin.

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Yes.

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It's approved.

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Six in favor and zero opposed.

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I remember Two item number two is an ordinance rezoning

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property on North 32nd Street.

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Miss.

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Rice Yes.

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On August 11th, the Planning Commission held a public hearing

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to consider the proposed master land Use Plan amendment to mixed

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use residential and zoning to rezone and zoning request

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to residential multifamily, medium density or an rM3 zone

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permitting the existing SIMO family residences to conform

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with zoning and the way that they've developed a neighborhood

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meeting was held on August Fourth.

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There were four neighboring property owners

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that attended the meeting.

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No one entertained the expressed opposition to the request

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At the Planning Commission meeting,

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Mr. Rosa was present to represent

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the items There were none present to speak

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in favor or opposition.

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The planning Commission voted eight in favor was zero.

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Oppose to recommend the Master land use plan, map and zoning

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map be amended.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Or there's citizens comments, Madam Clerk.

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None indicating this time entertain

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a motion to adopt suspension of the rules.

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Summer suspension OK.

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Thank you.

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Madam Clerk, please.

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Really on.

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I'm sorry Yell or two.

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Quick for me.

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Who seconded it or settle ?

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I did.

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OK This is an ordinance amending the master land use plan map

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and rezoning identified property and amending the zoning map.

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And this is for properties located at 15,

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17 and 1527 North 32nd Street.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Or any comments from the board members Okay.

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Seeing none, please call the roll directors camp.

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Yes.

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George Sarvis Yes.

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Christina, get service.

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Yes.

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Settle.

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Yes, Martin.

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Yes Rigo.

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Yes.

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It's approved.

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Six in favor and zero opposed.

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We need a motion to adopt the emergency clause So,

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second, thank you.

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Please call the roll I got that one.

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Emergency clause.

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Oh, yeah.

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OK Directors.

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George Good service.

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Yes.

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Christina Good service Yes, sir.

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Yes.

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Martin yes.

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Rigo.

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Yes.

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Camp Yes.

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Motion passes.

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Six and veteran zero Opposed.

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Moving along real good Item three,

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item Three is an ordinance rezoning property

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at 3515 Vicksburg Street Address Yes, sir.

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On August 11th, the planning commission held a public hearing

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to consider the Master Land Use Plan amendment to mixed use

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residential end zoning request to residential multiple family

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high density or an are in for to facilitate the construction

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of a multifamily development with four duplexes.

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16 parking spaces, landscaping and a sidewalk.

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A neighborhood meeting was held June 27th.

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No neighboring property owners attended the meeting

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at the Planning Commission meeting,

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Mr. Brandon woodrum was present to present

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the items There were none present to speak

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in favor or opposition.

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The planning commission voted seven in favor,

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with one opposed to recommend the master land Use Plan, map

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and zoning map be amended.

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OK.

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Thank you. you very much, Madam Clerk.

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Any citizens comments on this item?

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Yes, we do have two individuals, the First being

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the applicant, Brandon Woodrum, which

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he will have five minutes Yes.

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Thank you.

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My name is Brandon Woodrum Eight 4, Brooklyn Road Branch,

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Arkansas I think I filled the form out wrong.

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I meant to just be available for questions from the directors.

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I apologize.

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But I am here to answering questions if you have any.

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Thank you.

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OK.

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Thank you Next, we have Andy Patrick, which

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will have two minutes high.

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Thank you, everybody Andy Patrick.

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I love living in Fort Smith I just

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wanted to lend my support for this project.

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And Mr. Brandon let him know that Fort Smith is

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open for business.

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And we welcome his business.

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Thank you.

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Thank you Thank you.

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And well, any.

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Go ahead.

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Now, that's all for advantage.

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Okay.

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If there are no further comments from citizens

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will entertain a motion to adopt with suspension

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of the rules and those suspension rules.

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And second, thank You, Madam Clerk, please read your Honour's

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An ordinance amending the master land use plan, map

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and rezoning identified property in amending the zoning map.

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And this is for property located at 3515 Vicksburg Street.

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Any comments from the board Director Kim Thank you, Mayor.

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Ms..

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Rice, could you just remind us again,

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what concern led to the dissenting vote

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for the Planning Commission, why they were not

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unanimous Yes, there is a planning commissioner that

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feels that sometimes industrial property should remain

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industrial And so that was part of it.

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Additionally, this property is located

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within that 80 to 85 DVD and all noise

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contour So since this is a new residential use that

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will have to meet the sound transmission

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class for that noise contour construction was Thank you

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Any other questions from the board Ma'am,

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please call the roll directors.

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Christina Kate Service Yes.

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Settle.

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Yes Martin.

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Yes.

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Rigo.

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Yes.

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Kim.

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Yes.

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George Consensus.

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Yes It's approved.

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Six in favor and zero oppose.

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Motion to adopt the emergency.

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So move.

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Second.

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Thank you please call the roll director.

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Settle.

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Yes, Martin yes.

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Rigo.

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Yes.

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Kemp Yes.

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George, Get Savage.

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Yes Christina, Get service.

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Yes.

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Motion passes.

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Six in favor and zero opposed.

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Item four.

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Item Four is an ordinance rezoning property at 5215.

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Kelly Highway, Miss Rice.

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Yes sir.

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On August 11th, the planning commission held a public hearing

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to consider the subject rezoning application motion.

290
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The property contains a little over 2.

291
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And a half acres and is located on the north side of Kelly

292
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Highway between north 52nd street and North 53rd Street.

293
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The proposed rezoning to a planned zoning district allows

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for additional land uses within the land use chart,

295
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such as bakery or confectionery Shop for shop bookstore or salon

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and other permitted land uses a neighborhood meeting was held

297
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on August 3rd.

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There were no neighboring property owners

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in attendance at the Planning Commission meeting.

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Mr. Tyler teague was present to represent the item.

301
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There were none present to speak in favor or opposition.

302
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The Planning Commission did vote.

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Eight in favor was zero, opposed to recommend that the zoning map

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be amended Thank you very much.

305
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Are there any citizens comments on this item?

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We do have?

307
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And Mr. Teague and Mr. Klang to answer

308
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questions for item number four.

309
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But we also have Jason Scarlett's

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to address the board Good evening.

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Thank you for inviting me in.

312
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Once again I came up appear to show my support

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for this proposal As somebody who

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used to go to church in that particular building each

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Saturday for several years until this past year, when they

316
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disbanded I think this is an excellent location for a bakery

317
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confectionery shop I'm not sure if that's exactly what they

318
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proposed to do with it.

319
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I hope it is That's something that is

320
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needed in that part of town, especially

321
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being right next to a school.

322
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I think it'll do well.

323
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So I say vote yes.

324
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For what it's worth that's all for us.

325
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OK.

326
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Thank you.

327
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You.

328
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It is time.

329
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We will entertain a motion to adopt with suspension

330
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of the rules And a second.

331
00:21:07,865 --> 00:21:08,365
Thank you.

332
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Please review audience an ordinance rezoning

333
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identified property in amending the zoning map.

334
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And this is your property property

335
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located at 5215 Kelly Highway.

336
00:21:18,445 --> 00:21:21,895
Oh, thank you Are there any comments from the board?

337
00:21:21,895 --> 00:21:23,695
Well, Mr. Service stole my thunder,

338
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but I think the kids from Sutton Union, Christian and Kimmons

339
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would celebrate this passing tonight Great.

340
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OK Thank you.

341
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Any other comments from the board ?

342
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OK.

343
00:21:35,740 --> 00:21:37,975
If not, please call the roll directors.

344
00:21:37,975 --> 00:21:38,515
Martin?

345
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Yes, Rigo Yes.

346
00:21:40,850 --> 00:21:40,585
Camp.

347
00:21:40,585 --> 00:21:41,185
Yes.

348
00:21:41,185 --> 00:21:42,385
George get service.

349
00:21:42,385 --> 00:21:43,975
Christina Get service Yes.

350
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Settle.

351
00:21:44,485 --> 00:21:45,145
Yes.

352
00:21:45,145 --> 00:21:45,775
It's approved.

353
00:21:45,775 --> 00:21:48,266
Six in favor and zero opposed at this time,

354
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we will enter it this time will entertain a motion

355
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to adopt emergency class Second.

356
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Second.

357
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Thank you.

358
00:21:54,689 --> 00:21:56,605
Please call the roll directors.

359
00:21:56,605 --> 00:21:57,235
Rigo?

360
00:21:57,235 --> 00:21:58,165
Yes, Kim?

361
00:21:58,165 --> 00:21:59,815
Yes George, Get service.

362
00:21:59,815 --> 00:22:00,805
Christina Get service.

363
00:22:00,805 --> 00:22:01,715
Yes, sir.

364
00:22:01,715 --> 00:22:02,215
Yes.

365
00:22:02,215 --> 00:22:02,715
Martin.

366
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Yes Motion passes.

367
00:22:03,835 --> 00:22:05,365
Six in favor and zero opposed.

368
00:22:05,365 --> 00:22:06,965
Item Five.

369
00:22:06,965 --> 00:22:10,705
Item five is an ordinance rezoning property at 2709.

370
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Hazard Road As rice Yes sir.

371
00:22:12,745 --> 00:22:15,475
On August 11th, the Planning Commission held a public hearing

372
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to consider the subject master Land Use Plan amendment

373
00:22:17,935 --> 00:22:19,825
and rezoning applications.

374
00:22:19,825 --> 00:22:22,715
The property containing a little over Six and a half acres

375
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is located on the east side of Mallard Road between harron

376
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Drive and Dallas Street The proposed Master Land

377
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Use planning permit to commercial, neighborhood

378
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and zoning to commercial light or see

379
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to facilitate the development of a two story doctor's office

380
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and clinic with pharmacy.

381
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A neighborhood meeting was held on July 12th,

382
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28th 12 Neighboring property owners attended the meeting with

383
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concerns regarding increased traffic,

384
00:22:45,565 --> 00:22:48,895
hours of operation lighting, drainage placement of northern

385
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driveway maintenance of property and further development

386
00:22:52,555 --> 00:22:55,105
at the planning commission meeting meeting Mr.

387
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Barry Davidson of Davidson Engineering and Andy Nicholson

388
00:22:58,165 --> 00:23:01,945
of our Care were present to represent the items Mr.

389
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Dan Saffron act and Mr. Cole Kingsbury spoke in opposition

390
00:23:05,695 --> 00:23:08,215
with concerns regarding proximity to residential

391
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development, increased traffic proximity to schools,

392
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number of patients for the doctor's office and pharmacy

393
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and the type of future development

394
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for the remaining portion of the site

395
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The planning Commission voted seven in favor with one

396
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oppose to recommend the Master land use plan, map and zoning

397
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map be amended.

398
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Okay.

399
00:23:25,675 --> 00:23:26,365
Thank you.

400
00:23:26,365 --> 00:23:27,475
You very much.

401
00:23:27,475 --> 00:23:28,945
Are there any citizens comments?

402
00:23:28,945 --> 00:23:30,930
Madam Clerk We have two that have signed

403
00:23:30,930 --> 00:23:33,985
and one Baker Davidson to answer questions only.

404
00:23:33,985 --> 00:23:35,500
And then to speak.

405
00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:39,805
We have Terry Bailey Terry, are you here ?

406
00:23:43,150 --> 00:23:49,615
Here we go I know that you support William sprague Road.

407
00:23:54,145 --> 00:23:57,415
I am very close to this property that they

408
00:23:57,415 --> 00:23:59,665
want to build the medical center on,

409
00:23:59,665 --> 00:24:04,495
and I am against it mainly because it does not fit

410
00:24:04,495 --> 00:24:06,775
the vibe of our neighborhood.

411
00:24:06,775 --> 00:24:10,255
It's not really a buffer zone but it's actually

412
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smacked in the middle of all kinds of schools, churches

413
00:24:17,275 --> 00:24:19,150
and residential areas.

414
00:24:19,150 --> 00:24:20,575
In fact, it's completely surrounded

415
00:24:20,575 --> 00:24:23,365
aided by residential areas, and we

416
00:24:23,365 --> 00:24:27,265
have problems with school traffic, with chafin and Woods.

417
00:24:27,265 --> 00:24:28,885
We also have a Lutheran school.

418
00:24:28,885 --> 00:24:32,125
We have a couple of daycares there and some of the churches

419
00:24:32,125 --> 00:24:35,515
and the traffic is extremely heavy in the mornings

420
00:24:35,515 --> 00:24:37,750
and in the afternoons.

421
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And this piece of property is landlocked

422
00:24:39,625 --> 00:24:42,250
and there was only one way to get in and out

423
00:24:42,250 --> 00:24:45,565
and that's by adding more streets and more entrances

424
00:24:45,565 --> 00:24:48,205
and exits right off Amazon road, which

425
00:24:48,205 --> 00:24:52,945
is already heavily congested in the mornings with school people.

426
00:24:52,945 --> 00:24:55,495
And I'm just asking that you consider

427
00:24:55,495 --> 00:24:58,435
or not rezoning this property, but let

428
00:24:58,435 --> 00:25:00,355
us keep it the way it is.

429
00:25:00,355 --> 00:25:03,805
And keep our neighborhood intact like we like it.

430
00:25:03,805 --> 00:25:05,805
Thank you OK.

431
00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:11,875
At this time, it's just time we will entertain a motion to adopt

432
00:25:11,875 --> 00:25:13,243
with suspension of the rule.

433
00:25:13,243 --> 00:25:14,725
So moves, especially the rules.

434
00:25:14,725 --> 00:25:15,265
So good.

435
00:25:15,265 --> 00:25:16,525
Thank you.

436
00:25:16,525 --> 00:25:18,805
Madam Clerk, please read the ordinance.

437
00:25:18,805 --> 00:25:21,115
An ordinance amending the master land use plan map

438
00:25:21,115 --> 00:25:23,875
and rezoning identified property and amending the zoning map.

439
00:25:23,875 --> 00:25:28,765
And this is for property located at 27 Onan measured road

440
00:25:28,765 --> 00:25:31,916
Any comments from the board will start ahead.

441
00:25:31,916 --> 00:25:34,885
You and director George Casavant.

442
00:25:34,885 --> 00:25:36,535
You first, Maggie.

443
00:25:36,535 --> 00:25:38,605
I live over there with this lady is

444
00:25:38,605 --> 00:25:40,975
talking about what's being done what's

445
00:25:40,975 --> 00:25:43,915
going to be the buffer from that building to the neighbors

446
00:25:43,915 --> 00:25:48,475
neighborhood as is going to be a balance

447
00:25:48,475 --> 00:25:51,761
or what there will be the requirement of a privacy fence

448
00:25:51,761 --> 00:25:52,594
that it's installed.

449
00:25:52,594 --> 00:25:55,251
The of course, the majority of the residential

450
00:25:55,251 --> 00:25:56,209
is on the western side.

451
00:25:56,209 --> 00:25:57,199
And that's our road.

452
00:25:57,199 --> 00:26:01,195
Is there And the our care, the developers, were they

453
00:26:01,195 --> 00:26:04,345
removed a northern driveway, which was a point of contention

454
00:26:04,345 --> 00:26:05,700
early on.

455
00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:07,915
So the main driveway will be further south so

456
00:26:07,915 --> 00:26:11,365
that it doesn't affect the property owners that do live on.

457
00:26:11,365 --> 00:26:12,115
Williams burg.

458
00:26:12,115 --> 00:26:17,650
The traffic won't flow out that far north on the site.

459
00:26:17,650 --> 00:26:19,915
Additionally, there is an existing drainage channel

460
00:26:19,915 --> 00:26:23,485
that does function as a natural buffer on the property

461
00:26:23,485 --> 00:26:28,285
and the Planning Commission tied this zoning request to that,

462
00:26:28,285 --> 00:26:30,625
to the development plan that was submitted

463
00:26:30,625 --> 00:26:34,150
So therefore, if the development plan is ever abandoned,

464
00:26:34,150 --> 00:26:36,775
it will require an additional public hearing.

465
00:26:36,775 --> 00:26:39,715
Where has you know, it's close to the schools and a lot of kids

466
00:26:39,715 --> 00:26:42,115
walk home from school.

467
00:26:42,115 --> 00:26:44,496
Has there been a traffic study done or anything?

468
00:26:44,496 --> 00:26:47,380
The traffic traffic study was not required for this land use.

469
00:26:47,380 --> 00:26:48,550
Why not?

470
00:26:48,550 --> 00:26:52,336
It didn't meet the required months so we have no idea.

471
00:26:52,336 --> 00:26:54,837
We're going to be a cars, 200 cars a day or whatever.

472
00:26:54,837 --> 00:26:56,605
The owner of the property is here.

473
00:26:56,605 --> 00:26:58,285
The our care representative, and he

474
00:26:58,285 --> 00:27:00,235
can kind of talk you about operations

475
00:27:00,235 --> 00:27:05,635
if you're interested if you would state your name

476
00:27:09,385 --> 00:27:12,775
or Thank you, Bear Davidson with Davidson Engineering.

477
00:27:12,775 --> 00:27:14,605
I'm here on behalf of our care.

478
00:27:14,605 --> 00:27:17,781
The applicant This question came up at Planning Commission

479
00:27:17,781 --> 00:27:18,443
as well.

480
00:27:18,443 --> 00:27:20,474
Thank you. you for the question.

481
00:27:20,474 --> 00:27:24,500
So our anticipate did a number of patients

482
00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:28,585
that would be seen at this clinic every day is around 80.

483
00:27:28,585 --> 00:27:31,645
This clinic and the pharmacy associated with it

484
00:27:31,645 --> 00:27:35,650
will maintain normal business hours 8 to 5 business hours

485
00:27:35,650 --> 00:27:36,535
Monday through Friday 8 to 5.

486
00:27:36,535 --> 00:27:38,425
And what about lighting ?

487
00:27:38,425 --> 00:27:42,955
We did submit a photometric and we per the city's requirements,

488
00:27:42,955 --> 00:27:45,685
have to be a zero light pollution on the neighbor

489
00:27:45,685 --> 00:27:48,403
and and given our site layout we have

490
00:27:48,403 --> 00:27:52,135
several feet between the back of our built up side

491
00:27:52,135 --> 00:27:54,550
and those houses to our east.

492
00:27:54,550 --> 00:27:56,375
And that's mainly because of that drainage ditch

493
00:27:56,375 --> 00:27:57,555
that runs through.

494
00:27:57,555 --> 00:28:01,755
What's the setback from street on that

495
00:28:01,945 --> 00:28:05,950
How many feet from the street?

496
00:28:05,950 --> 00:28:08,500
Our building is approximately 60ft from the right of way.

497
00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:12,850
So 75 ish feet from the curb to the building?

498
00:28:12,850 --> 00:28:14,850
Yeah Okay.

499
00:28:14,815 --> 00:28:16,735
So i want for my city is not being

500
00:28:16,735 --> 00:28:19,315
a surprises for the neighbors.

501
00:28:19,315 --> 00:28:21,556
We, you know, I mean, because I live there, too.

502
00:28:21,556 --> 00:28:24,757
And I guess and I just want to be sure

503
00:28:24,757 --> 00:28:26,549
if I could add it our neighborhood meeting,

504
00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:30,505
we had a good crowd 12 or 13, and there were concerns

505
00:28:30,505 --> 00:28:34,165
initially, I think with a couple of exceptions, exceptions, most

506
00:28:34,165 --> 00:28:35,369
people left in favor of.

507
00:28:35,369 --> 00:28:37,300
What we were trying to do, that the church

508
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:38,425
had a representative there.

509
00:28:38,425 --> 00:28:40,255
And he was concerned about the location

510
00:28:40,255 --> 00:28:41,335
of our northern driveway.

511
00:28:41,335 --> 00:28:44,635
We shifted to the south based on feedback and feedback

512
00:28:44,635 --> 00:28:46,885
from city staff Yeah, Neil, you church, you know,

513
00:28:46,885 --> 00:28:48,498
as your church involved in that, I

514
00:28:48,498 --> 00:28:50,665
mean they're not involved in it, but no, but I mean,

515
00:28:50,665 --> 00:28:52,207
it's right across the street from it,

516
00:28:52,207 --> 00:28:53,368
so they're okay with that?

517
00:28:53,368 --> 00:28:55,495
Yeah, I think they're interested in the parking

518
00:28:55,495 --> 00:28:57,505
for, for church services.

519
00:28:57,505 --> 00:29:00,235
So I think they'll you might you guys might not know that.

520
00:29:00,235 --> 00:29:04,405
So we might steal it on Sunday.

521
00:29:04,405 --> 00:29:05,945
The clinic's not open on Sunday.

522
00:29:05,945 --> 00:29:06,235
Thanks.

523
00:29:06,235 --> 00:29:07,402
It's open seven days a week.

524
00:29:07,402 --> 00:29:08,155
Five days a week.

525
00:29:08,155 --> 00:29:09,149
Five days a week.

526
00:29:09,149 --> 00:29:09,649
OK.

527
00:29:09,649 --> 00:29:10,715
Thank you, sir.

528
00:29:10,715 --> 00:29:11,342
Yes, sir.

529
00:29:11,342 --> 00:29:12,175
Director Neil moore.

530
00:29:12,175 --> 00:29:13,915
And I think you next in the queue and we'll go.

531
00:29:13,915 --> 00:29:15,748
Yeah I probably shouldn't share as much as I

532
00:29:15,748 --> 00:29:18,748
share here, so I apologize.

533
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:25,750
One of the things the director, Commissioner coleman at it

534
00:29:25,495 --> 00:29:26,395
voted against this.

535
00:29:26,395 --> 00:29:27,549
He's a developer.

536
00:29:27,549 --> 00:29:30,420
I know, he's familiar with this property

537
00:29:30,420 --> 00:29:32,125
Do you know the reasoning why he voted against it?

538
00:29:32,125 --> 00:29:33,295
He did not say two reason.

539
00:29:33,295 --> 00:29:36,955
Okay I am concerned about that drainage.

540
00:29:36,955 --> 00:29:40,523
I know some folks that lived on that east side that

541
00:29:40,523 --> 00:29:44,125
were very concerned about that the backed up to that property I

542
00:29:44,125 --> 00:29:47,625
am concerned how that's going to any time any development goes in

543
00:29:47,625 --> 00:29:49,375
has the potential to mess up the drainage.

544
00:29:49,375 --> 00:29:50,733
So I do have concerns about that.

545
00:29:50,733 --> 00:29:52,141
You know One of the things that we've

546
00:29:52,141 --> 00:29:54,295
heard over and over and over what maybe not heard

547
00:29:54,295 --> 00:29:56,500
over and over and over, but that's

548
00:29:56,500 --> 00:30:00,385
been looked at for a number of different different times

549
00:30:00,385 --> 00:30:03,385
for development and last I heard,

550
00:30:03,385 --> 00:30:07,165
it was going to be duplexes And I

551
00:30:07,165 --> 00:30:10,885
think there was a lot of concern about duplexes being

552
00:30:10,885 --> 00:30:12,658
there in that in that area.

553
00:30:12,658 --> 00:30:17,245
So just like the the decision that came up

554
00:30:17,245 --> 00:30:19,623
just a little bit ago, Mike and My concern

555
00:30:19,623 --> 00:30:22,352
would be if there are duplexes there that would be more

556
00:30:22,352 --> 00:30:25,585
feel like that would be more impactful to those residents

557
00:30:25,585 --> 00:30:30,685
than something like this So I have some concerns

558
00:30:30,685 --> 00:30:34,885
there I think that's all i have.

559
00:30:39,475 --> 00:30:42,145
I know some people that were at the neighborhood meeting that

560
00:30:42,145 --> 00:30:45,611
had concern and I want to be I want to be mindful of those.

561
00:30:45,611 --> 00:30:48,145
And I think we I think I'm trying to be mindful of those.

562
00:30:48,145 --> 00:30:50,208
So i want to make sure what else you know,

563
00:30:50,208 --> 00:30:51,375
some of the other questions.

564
00:30:51,375 --> 00:30:55,315
And obviously, I know Director Savage lives near there.

565
00:30:55,315 --> 00:30:56,965
I'm in the vicinity.

566
00:30:56,965 --> 00:30:58,495
I should say.

567
00:30:58,495 --> 00:31:04,135
So I'm interested in this, but health care being here,

568
00:31:04,135 --> 00:31:06,475
I think that might be better than, you

569
00:31:06,475 --> 00:31:08,935
know a bunch of duplexes that would have a lot more traffic

570
00:31:08,935 --> 00:31:12,850
flow going in and out you know, making sure

571
00:31:12,850 --> 00:31:15,995
that our that ours are good lighting is good You know,

572
00:31:15,995 --> 00:31:17,245
something that I'm looking at.

573
00:31:17,245 --> 00:31:20,734
So i'll continue to kind of listen might ask some questions.

574
00:31:20,734 --> 00:31:21,385
Thank you.

575
00:31:21,385 --> 00:31:22,928
You Director rego Thank you.

576
00:31:22,928 --> 00:31:23,443
Mayor.

577
00:31:23,443 --> 00:31:25,825
This question might be for Maggie or the gentleman

578
00:31:25,825 --> 00:31:29,545
here on behalf of our care is our care Is this

579
00:31:29,545 --> 00:31:33,145
a new provider in our community?

580
00:31:33,835 --> 00:31:37,945
This isn't a relocation of a of a office that's already in town.

581
00:31:37,945 --> 00:31:38,515
Correct.

582
00:31:38,515 --> 00:31:41,730
It's new to Fort Smith New to Fort Smith is what I mean.

583
00:31:41,730 --> 00:31:42,395
Yes that's right.

584
00:31:42,395 --> 00:31:42,895
OK.

585
00:31:42,895 --> 00:31:44,947
I mean, you know, I don't think given

586
00:31:44,947 --> 00:31:47,155
the challenge as we currently face in the health care

587
00:31:47,155 --> 00:31:50,350
landscape that we're really in a position

588
00:31:50,350 --> 00:31:52,825
to turn away a provider who wants

589
00:31:52,825 --> 00:31:55,705
to treat people in our community and provide that.

590
00:31:55,705 --> 00:31:59,305
So thank you OK, Director kemp.

591
00:31:59,965 --> 00:32:00,835
Thank you, Mayor.

592
00:32:00,835 --> 00:32:03,215
Maceration on this property You know,

593
00:32:03,215 --> 00:32:05,215
we're no, we're talking about a doctor's clinic.

594
00:32:05,215 --> 00:32:08,275
We're also rezoning six and a half acres

595
00:32:08,275 --> 00:32:10,338
of the entirety of it.

596
00:32:10,338 --> 00:32:12,745
What could potentially be done with the remainder

597
00:32:12,745 --> 00:32:16,975
of the property in the future without coming back to the board

598
00:32:16,975 --> 00:32:19,180
without coming back to the board Correct.

599
00:32:19,180 --> 00:32:21,535
So anything that would be constructed

600
00:32:21,535 --> 00:32:24,205
outside the scope of the development plan

601
00:32:24,205 --> 00:32:28,135
that you see on page 139 of your packet

602
00:32:28,135 --> 00:32:30,270
would require planning commission approval

603
00:32:30,270 --> 00:32:32,395
a development plan through the planning Commission.

604
00:32:32,395 --> 00:32:35,515
Anything outside of that scope, a development plan

605
00:32:35,515 --> 00:32:40,750
is not required to track to the board unless on appeal Okay.

606
00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:41,935
But it would require a public hearing.

607
00:32:41,935 --> 00:32:42,745
Okay.

608
00:32:42,745 --> 00:32:43,555
OK.

609
00:32:43,555 --> 00:32:50,155
Thank you Any other questions from the board Okay Madam Clerk,

610
00:32:50,305 --> 00:32:53,905
please call the roll directors camp.

611
00:32:54,265 --> 00:32:55,195
Yes.

612
00:32:55,195 --> 00:32:56,500
George Savage.

613
00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:57,600
Yes Christina.

614
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:57,506
Kate.

615
00:32:57,506 --> 00:32:58,150
Service.

616
00:32:58,150 --> 00:32:59,155
No.

617
00:32:59,155 --> 00:33:01,155
So yes Martin.

618
00:33:02,515 --> 00:33:03,391
Yes.

619
00:33:03,391 --> 00:33:04,645
Frigo Yes.

620
00:33:04,645 --> 00:33:05,245
Motion is.

621
00:33:05,245 --> 00:33:07,756
Motion passes Five in favor and one opposed.

622
00:33:07,756 --> 00:33:08,855
OK Thank you.

623
00:33:08,855 --> 00:33:09,355
Just time.

624
00:33:09,355 --> 00:33:11,785
We need a motion to adopt the emergency clause.

625
00:33:11,785 --> 00:33:12,985
Some a second.

626
00:33:12,985 --> 00:33:13,525
Thank you.

627
00:33:13,525 --> 00:33:16,450
Please call the roll directors.

628
00:33:16,450 --> 00:33:16,825
George Sarvis?

629
00:33:16,825 --> 00:33:17,445
Yes.

630
00:33:17,445 --> 00:33:18,445
Christina Court service.

631
00:33:18,445 --> 00:33:20,445
No Yes, Martin.

632
00:33:20,875 --> 00:33:21,985
Yes Rigo.

633
00:33:21,985 --> 00:33:22,925
Yes.

634
00:33:22,925 --> 00:33:25,675
Yes Motion passes five in favor and one opposed.

635
00:33:25,675 --> 00:33:27,865
Thank you very much Just I will go to item number

636
00:33:27,865 --> 00:33:32,155
six, which is the consent or consent agenda items.

637
00:33:32,155 --> 00:33:35,205
They've got a consent decree that we're going to go at.

638
00:33:35,205 --> 00:33:38,395
Consent agenda item. the consent decree agenda

639
00:33:38,395 --> 00:33:39,595
contains two items.

640
00:33:39,595 --> 00:33:40,495
This evening.

641
00:33:40,495 --> 00:33:43,165
A resolution approving a construction contract with force

642
00:33:43,165 --> 00:33:48,565
Green in the amount of 3 million for $10,654.60 for consent

643
00:33:49,145 --> 00:33:49,645
decree.

644
00:33:49,645 --> 00:33:54,595
Remedial measures projects 19 dash 19 dash C three and also

645
00:33:54,595 --> 00:33:57,353
a resolution approving an engineering services contract

646
00:33:57,353 --> 00:33:57,895
with Hopkins.

647
00:33:57,895 --> 00:34:03,265
We are in the amount of $272,900 for construction observation

648
00:34:03,265 --> 00:34:09,865
services as related to that same project Okay it's just time

649
00:34:10,915 --> 00:34:15,685
to ask for any citizens comments on either A or b?

650
00:34:15,685 --> 00:34:18,355
Yes, we have, Larry yancey to answer questions only,

651
00:34:18,355 --> 00:34:24,955
but we also have Joey McCutchen Are we speaking on both.

652
00:34:29,399 --> 00:34:30,385
Now or housing?

653
00:34:30,385 --> 00:34:31,285
Yes, we can.

654
00:34:31,285 --> 00:34:32,195
If you like.

655
00:34:32,195 --> 00:34:32,695
OK.

656
00:34:32,695 --> 00:34:33,670
OK.

657
00:34:33,670 --> 00:34:33,625
Thank you.

658
00:34:33,625 --> 00:34:34,165
You.

659
00:34:34,165 --> 00:34:37,615
This is the exact reason that I sent the email today

660
00:34:37,615 --> 00:34:42,415
to Jeff Dingman and the board asking why we still

661
00:34:42,415 --> 00:34:47,650
have an approved the consent decree management program

662
00:34:47,650 --> 00:34:49,675
And Mr. Damon respond to that.

663
00:34:49,675 --> 00:34:52,135
That was going to be up for vote in September

664
00:34:52,135 --> 00:34:53,875
or it's after 16 months.

665
00:34:53,875 --> 00:34:56,935
And the reason that i say it's a major issue that we need

666
00:34:56,935 --> 00:35:02,350
outside eyes on this issue is because the of the original

667
00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:07,450
can't act when the city i guess it was Mr. Dingman submitted

668
00:35:07,450 --> 00:35:13,450
to the board a $9 million bid and our original engineering's

669
00:35:15,955 --> 00:35:17,955
estimate was 5.1 million.

670
00:35:18,655 --> 00:35:20,545
That's for million dollars.

671
00:35:20,545 --> 00:35:22,255
That's Monopoly money.

672
00:35:22,255 --> 00:35:24,535
And the question that the board should be asking

673
00:35:24,535 --> 00:35:30,535
is why did he submit that bid That's a fair question That's

674
00:35:30,535 --> 00:35:32,535
$4 million.

675
00:35:32,605 --> 00:35:34,855
You know, we talk about Parrot Island

676
00:35:34,855 --> 00:35:39,535
and, you know, we've got $360 million of Monopoly money

677
00:35:39,535 --> 00:35:43,928
and we need somebody outside eyes watching this

678
00:35:43,928 --> 00:35:48,895
And you look at the converse of that on the current project,

679
00:35:48,895 --> 00:35:53,950
we've got an engineering estimate of $4.3 million

680
00:35:53,725 --> 00:35:56,695
yet for some strange reason, good for the city.

681
00:35:56,695 --> 00:36:02,485
I guess, for to take They bid $3 million on it.

682
00:36:02,485 --> 00:36:06,733
That's a differ sense of $1.3 million whereas good wind

683
00:36:06,733 --> 00:36:07,849
and good one.

684
00:36:07,849 --> 00:36:10,621
They they bid for point $3 million on it.

685
00:36:10,621 --> 00:36:13,315
But it gets down to an issue of trust

686
00:36:13,315 --> 00:36:16,705
and and I hope that this board will

687
00:36:16,705 --> 00:36:19,318
see the urgency of making this hire.

688
00:36:19,318 --> 00:36:26,225
So that so that we can trust our city because then again,

689
00:36:26,225 --> 00:36:30,685
will somebody have the courage to ask why you receive that bid?

690
00:36:30,685 --> 00:36:35,305
And congratulations to the board the board, the this bid process.

691
00:36:35,305 --> 00:36:37,616
And we had that discussion in a study session.

692
00:36:37,616 --> 00:36:41,905
I think Mr. Martin in fact, brought that up

693
00:36:41,905 --> 00:36:44,526
and that's good that we should have never got there.

694
00:36:44,526 --> 00:36:45,770
Okay.

695
00:36:45,770 --> 00:36:46,455
I've got 4 minutes.

696
00:36:46,455 --> 00:36:48,137
I've asked to speak on both issues.

697
00:36:48,137 --> 00:36:48,637
OK.

698
00:36:48,637 --> 00:36:55,837
Go ahead You know, and then we we've got the you know,

699
00:36:57,392 --> 00:37:00,355
I've spoken about folks in our community

700
00:37:00,355 --> 00:37:04,225
who have a lot of influence folks

701
00:37:04,225 --> 00:37:08,725
who either get special perks or or folks who get

702
00:37:08,725 --> 00:37:10,465
a one heck of a lot of money.

703
00:37:10,465 --> 00:37:14,161
For example tonight we're talking $3 million force again.

704
00:37:14,161 --> 00:37:15,721
Does a great job.

705
00:37:15,721 --> 00:37:16,975
And there are local company.

706
00:37:16,975 --> 00:37:19,465
I'm happy about that because I get a lot of money.

707
00:37:19,465 --> 00:37:21,775
So it is where construction.

708
00:37:21,775 --> 00:37:24,805
But they rarely show up for board meetings

709
00:37:24,805 --> 00:37:27,625
and they don't speak publicly for the greater good,

710
00:37:27,625 --> 00:37:28,945
by and large.

711
00:37:28,945 --> 00:37:31,855
I wonder how many of them are here tonight.

712
00:37:31,855 --> 00:37:35,935
And finally kind of criteria number five for the downtown

713
00:37:35,935 --> 00:37:40,285
dues is that they do good for our our city.

714
00:37:40,285 --> 00:37:42,550
They do good projects.

715
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:46,135
But why would we get to an $800 million

716
00:37:46,135 --> 00:37:51,535
sewer consent decree if the people who had influence.

717
00:37:52,135 --> 00:37:58,195
Mr. Saddle and you who said on this board for an eternity

718
00:37:58,195 --> 00:38:01,315
push the issue on sewer and then we're

719
00:38:01,315 --> 00:38:02,995
also going to have the discussions,

720
00:38:02,995 --> 00:38:06,895
hopefully this board will get to it before the new folks are

721
00:38:06,895 --> 00:38:11,950
elected How are we going to deal with the $580 million

722
00:38:11,950 --> 00:38:14,125
water issue and who's going to pay for it

723
00:38:14,125 --> 00:38:17,245
But back to the consent decree issue,

724
00:38:17,245 --> 00:38:22,705
the question needs to be answered Why was a $9 million

725
00:38:22,705 --> 00:38:29,500
bid submit it to this board And again, this gets down

726
00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:31,735
to the reason we're asking for a new form of government

727
00:38:31,735 --> 00:38:34,450
where we don't have a bureaucratic manager

728
00:38:34,450 --> 00:38:37,645
because a strong mayor would face the consequences

729
00:38:37,645 --> 00:38:38,725
in an election.

730
00:38:38,725 --> 00:38:41,125
Thank you Madam President.

731
00:38:48,445 --> 00:38:52,135
Was there any other metaphor with that for those items?

732
00:38:52,135 --> 00:38:58,150
Okay This time we would entertain a motion to adopt.

733
00:38:58,150 --> 00:39:01,940
The resolution is for item six, A and 6.

734
00:39:01,940 --> 00:39:02,388
So I'm a second.

735
00:39:02,388 --> 00:39:04,388
Thank you Okay.

736
00:39:06,890 --> 00:39:08,305
This time we need.

737
00:39:08,305 --> 00:39:11,620
We've got a motion in a comment from the board.

738
00:39:11,620 --> 00:39:12,360
May I have one?

739
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,180
OK Director, just what about what

740
00:39:14,180 --> 00:39:15,685
Mr. Mukherjee said about hiring somebody

741
00:39:15,685 --> 00:39:18,475
to oversee this and professional engineer.

742
00:39:18,475 --> 00:39:22,555
We have gone through the process to identify a program manager

743
00:39:22,555 --> 00:39:26,335
for the Consent Decree program that we intend

744
00:39:26,335 --> 00:39:30,805
for that recommend to the vendor to come to the board for a study

745
00:39:30,805 --> 00:39:35,185
session late, participate member with the intent of advancing

746
00:39:35,185 --> 00:39:38,635
an agreement After that study session

747
00:39:38,635 --> 00:39:41,500
on the two agreement for approval

748
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:43,885
in the first meeting of October Okay.

749
00:39:43,885 --> 00:39:44,525
Thank you.

750
00:39:44,525 --> 00:39:45,250
Okay.

751
00:39:45,250 --> 00:39:45,525
Thank you.

752
00:39:45,525 --> 00:39:46,946
Any other comments from the board?

753
00:39:46,946 --> 00:39:47,446
Right.

754
00:39:47,446 --> 00:39:50,637
To know more so if I look at this, this is broken.

755
00:39:50,637 --> 00:39:51,137
Whom?

756
00:39:51,137 --> 00:39:53,215
Who am I talking to here Who's the.

757
00:39:53,215 --> 00:39:53,845
This is Lance.

758
00:39:53,845 --> 00:39:56,594
Is this to the specifics of the question,

759
00:39:56,594 --> 00:39:59,125
we have a director, as a deputy director

760
00:39:59,125 --> 00:40:00,678
of utilities, Jimmie Johnson is here

761
00:40:00,678 --> 00:40:02,950
to answer some specific questions.

762
00:40:02,950 --> 00:40:06,205
Okay So Jimmy we broke this up into three phases,

763
00:40:06,205 --> 00:40:09,115
so the original bid was $9.5 million

764
00:40:09,115 --> 00:40:14,867
and the estimate was five. $9.5 million was the original bid.

765
00:40:14,867 --> 00:40:18,467
The estimate was 5.19 million Phase one,

766
00:40:20,350 --> 00:40:25,450
which we approved on August 4th, was roughly $3 million.

767
00:40:25,450 --> 00:40:28,975
This is roughly 3 million or this is $3 Million.

768
00:40:28,975 --> 00:40:30,715
And we've got phase three coming.

769
00:40:30,715 --> 00:40:33,758
So do we have kind of an idea of what for phase three

770
00:40:33,758 --> 00:40:34,675
is going to look like?

771
00:40:34,675 --> 00:40:38,807
So so 5 million was the engineer's estimate.

772
00:40:38,807 --> 00:40:41,545
The bids came in a 9 million.

773
00:40:41,545 --> 00:40:44,965
We're now at 6,000,002/3 of the way through what's ultimately

774
00:40:44,965 --> 00:40:45,775
going to cost us.

775
00:40:45,775 --> 00:40:50,575
So phase two, which hasn't been bid yet,

776
00:40:50,725 --> 00:40:55,105
this is wasn't part of the original contract that

777
00:40:55,105 --> 00:40:59,905
was originally presented is a capacity improvement that

778
00:41:01,105 --> 00:41:04,975
happens to be in the same Boxer Basin, but it's a separate.

779
00:41:04,975 --> 00:41:08,549
We broke project into the original project in a two.

780
00:41:08,549 --> 00:41:11,182
We already had a phase A 1 and 2.

781
00:41:11,182 --> 00:41:13,465
So would you say two, two, three, four,

782
00:41:13,465 --> 00:41:14,665
four split in the original.

783
00:41:14,665 --> 00:41:19,945
Want to Oh so so this is the breakdown for the original one.

784
00:41:19,945 --> 00:41:25,165
I mean, this this says this is phase two of three phases right.

785
00:41:25,165 --> 00:41:29,950
We originally had two phases, but we only presented a bid

786
00:41:29,950 --> 00:41:34,195
and then in phase one, Phase two was the capacity improvement

787
00:41:34,195 --> 00:41:37,468
that hasn't been presented to the board in any fashion as

788
00:41:37,468 --> 00:41:38,330
of yet.

789
00:41:38,330 --> 00:41:43,730
There's still under design So when I'm reading this.

790
00:41:45,175 --> 00:41:49,405
And it says, and this proposed project this proposed project

791
00:41:49,405 --> 00:41:51,100
is phase Two of three phases.

792
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:55,255
Am I reading this wrong that we have there?

793
00:41:55,255 --> 00:41:56,967
There are three phases for that flow.

794
00:41:56,967 --> 00:42:01,742
One for a sub base originally, we had two

795
00:42:01,742 --> 00:42:04,335
and we bid phase one out, which was

796
00:42:04,335 --> 00:42:08,515
the original one that the board rejected or wanted us to rebid.

797
00:42:08,515 --> 00:42:09,475
Right So we split.

798
00:42:09,475 --> 00:42:11,815
Phase one happened to play phases

799
00:42:11,815 --> 00:42:14,904
and we called it phase one and phase three or Yeah.

800
00:42:14,904 --> 00:42:18,235
So phase two is the capacity improvements.

801
00:42:18,235 --> 00:42:23,350
So we've added phase two into this project.

802
00:42:23,426 --> 00:42:26,935
So the original 5.19 million was for phase.

803
00:42:26,935 --> 00:42:29,155
What is now phase one and three.

804
00:42:29,155 --> 00:42:29,791
That's correct.

805
00:42:29,791 --> 00:42:30,291
OK.

806
00:42:30,291 --> 00:42:31,156
And so we've.

807
00:42:31,156 --> 00:42:33,625
OK, I'm trying to get an apples to apples comparison

808
00:42:33,625 --> 00:42:36,865
of this particular project because the way I

809
00:42:36,865 --> 00:42:39,850
was in my brain was looking at it is we're

810
00:42:39,850 --> 00:42:40,615
going to hit that $9 million.

811
00:42:40,615 --> 00:42:45,610
Now, this this is it for the original one that we split up.

812
00:42:45,610 --> 00:42:46,110
OK.

813
00:42:46,110 --> 00:42:46,843
All right.

814
00:42:46,843 --> 00:42:48,655
So we're looking at about.

815
00:42:48,655 --> 00:42:50,695
So we've got 3 million for phase one.

816
00:42:50,695 --> 00:42:53,155
What what was our engineering estimate for phase three?

817
00:42:53,155 --> 00:42:53,715
I know.

818
00:42:53,715 --> 00:42:55,705
I think I don't think we've built that out yet.

819
00:42:55,705 --> 00:42:56,485
Is that correct?

820
00:42:56,485 --> 00:43:02,125
But for we haven't the phase two, which was the capacity to

821
00:43:02,125 --> 00:43:04,285
have not built it out.

822
00:43:04,285 --> 00:43:05,515
Okay.

823
00:43:05,515 --> 00:43:07,720
So this is phase three.

824
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:07,810
OK.

825
00:43:07,810 --> 00:43:09,286
Or C three.

826
00:43:09,286 --> 00:43:11,286
OK OK.

827
00:43:11,965 --> 00:43:17,770
So we're roughly 6 million bucks just off of the original $5.19

828
00:43:17,770 --> 00:43:19,410
million estimate.

829
00:43:19,410 --> 00:43:20,350
That's correct.

830
00:43:20,350 --> 00:43:23,755
So the board did a good job pulling this one out,

831
00:43:23,755 --> 00:43:27,100
splitting it up and then coming back to us for this.

832
00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:27,610
Yes.

833
00:43:27,610 --> 00:43:29,335
OK Thank you.

834
00:43:29,335 --> 00:43:30,565
Okay.

835
00:43:30,565 --> 00:43:34,150
Thank you Any other comments from the board Yeah.

836
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:35,650
Okay.

837
00:43:35,650 --> 00:43:39,550
Thank you Madam Clerk, please call the room manager

838
00:43:39,550 --> 00:43:41,785
We did have one other individual to speak on, and, B,

839
00:43:41,785 --> 00:43:46,230
would you like to open citizen comment back up or no?

840
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:47,724
We lost voice whispers.

841
00:43:47,724 --> 00:43:49,465
You want to hear ?

842
00:43:49,465 --> 00:43:50,400
Sure, sure.

843
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:50,900
OK.

844
00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:51,378
Okay.

845
00:43:51,378 --> 00:43:51,878
Yes.

846
00:43:51,878 --> 00:43:53,950
You all.

847
00:43:53,950 --> 00:43:54,725
We have a live on Morton.

848
00:43:54,725 --> 00:43:55,225
Okay.

849
00:43:55,225 --> 00:43:56,575
Two minutes long.

850
00:43:56,575 --> 00:44:01,375
You recognize Thank you I'll make this quick,

851
00:44:03,325 --> 00:44:08,665
I promise So when I hear this discussion about we broke it

852
00:44:08,665 --> 00:44:12,705
into two, which i was, I commented on this in the 1st

853
00:44:12,705 --> 00:44:17,229
November meeting where we had this huge overbid that that over

854
00:44:17,229 --> 00:44:18,602
the ensuing assessment.

855
00:44:18,602 --> 00:44:22,165
But now I hear where we're going to be broken into

856
00:44:22,165 --> 00:44:26,678
and we've got a Third phase to do capacity improvement

857
00:44:26,678 --> 00:44:32,215
So a valid question is, if this is the same project capacity

858
00:44:32,215 --> 00:44:34,885
improvement to me, it's bigger pipes

859
00:44:34,885 --> 00:44:40,100
so why wouldn't we have the bigger pipes in 1 in 3?

860
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:42,385
And it would be a need for two, not that cost more money,

861
00:44:42,385 --> 00:44:45,850
but that's that's a fair question.

862
00:44:45,850 --> 00:44:48,445
What is the capacity improvement if it's not in the construction

863
00:44:48,445 --> 00:44:49,555
that we're doing?

864
00:44:49,555 --> 00:44:52,225
And Mr. Johnson, I'm sure, can answer that for clarity

865
00:44:52,225 --> 00:44:53,845
But that's my question.

866
00:44:53,845 --> 00:44:59,845
That's it If you can think of the collection system

867
00:45:06,205 --> 00:45:07,795
as the tree, when you know it's got

868
00:45:07,795 --> 00:45:13,645
a central trunk with branches and the capacity project is

869
00:45:13,645 --> 00:45:18,835
the trunk and the in the original portion of the plan,

870
00:45:18,835 --> 00:45:23,335
the trunk line was too small but it

871
00:45:23,335 --> 00:45:26,935
didn't have any structural defects, which

872
00:45:27,550 --> 00:45:30,758
is what the the original phase One in the amount of phase one,

873
00:45:30,758 --> 00:45:35,185
two, three, take care of the defects and the trunk

874
00:45:35,185 --> 00:45:37,375
is taken care to capacity.

875
00:45:37,375 --> 00:45:41,125
So it was just the size of the line was the only problem.

876
00:45:41,125 --> 00:45:45,925
It wasn't the actual integrity of the pipe

877
00:45:46,225 --> 00:45:48,602
160 is more as question.

878
00:45:48,602 --> 00:45:52,915
You can answer my question that the three.

879
00:45:52,915 --> 00:45:54,175
Thank you.

880
00:45:54,175 --> 00:45:55,548
You, Madam Clerk.

881
00:45:55,548 --> 00:45:56,965
We do have another individual that

882
00:45:56,965 --> 00:46:01,165
just signed in Crystal catelli two minutes

883
00:46:10,855 --> 00:46:13,525
Good evening I'm prepared to speak tonight,

884
00:46:13,525 --> 00:46:16,975
but I'm pretty passionate about the consent decree

885
00:46:16,975 --> 00:46:19,165
and I've done a lot of research.

886
00:46:19,165 --> 00:46:23,950
So to Joey's point, we need to have someone managing

887
00:46:23,950 --> 00:46:27,835
our money We don't need to be spending more money than what

888
00:46:27,835 --> 00:46:28,885
we have.

889
00:46:28,885 --> 00:46:32,785
And even though we reallocated the taxes

890
00:46:32,785 --> 00:46:36,745
is still not going to be enough At the end of the day.

891
00:46:36,745 --> 00:46:41,755
And it's been presented to the people that it is and it isn't.

892
00:46:41,755 --> 00:46:47,755
So we are facing 3.5% year after year for five years.

893
00:46:47,845 --> 00:46:54,475
But if you read the fine print in the DOJ legal document

894
00:46:54,475 --> 00:46:58,450
it states they can raise it to whatever they want to.

895
00:46:58,450 --> 00:47:00,445
If we don't meet their deadlines.

896
00:47:00,445 --> 00:47:04,450
So we may be facing 19, 20 25%, whatever

897
00:47:04,555 --> 00:47:07,855
it takes to get the job done So we

898
00:47:07,855 --> 00:47:13,855
need to be focused on spending our money very conservatively

899
00:47:14,965 --> 00:47:19,105
and making sure that we have somebody

900
00:47:19,105 --> 00:47:23,545
that is going to be paying attention to these bids

901
00:47:23,545 --> 00:47:28,945
Thank you very much That's all for our six.

902
00:47:33,505 --> 00:47:35,175
OK Thank you.

903
00:47:35,175 --> 00:47:35,815
OK.

904
00:47:35,815 --> 00:47:38,335
This time, we will entertain an emotion.

905
00:47:38,335 --> 00:47:41,246
We've done that and we've had directors comments.

906
00:47:41,246 --> 00:47:43,945
Madam, please call the roll directors.

907
00:47:43,945 --> 00:47:46,675
Christina Kate, Service Yes, sir.

908
00:47:46,675 --> 00:47:48,250
Yes Martin.

909
00:47:48,250 --> 00:47:48,741
Yes.

910
00:47:48,741 --> 00:47:49,285
Rigo.

911
00:47:49,285 --> 00:47:50,215
Yes, Kent.

912
00:47:50,215 --> 00:47:50,785
Yes.

913
00:47:50,785 --> 00:47:52,675
George good service.

914
00:47:52,675 --> 00:47:55,175
I'm here for this four and a yes.

915
00:47:55,175 --> 00:47:55,675
Yes.

916
00:47:55,675 --> 00:47:56,245
Both Okay.

917
00:47:56,245 --> 00:47:57,130
Yes.

918
00:47:57,130 --> 00:47:57,805
Okay It's approved.

919
00:47:57,805 --> 00:47:59,335
Six in favor and zero opposed.

920
00:47:59,335 --> 00:48:01,335
Okay good.

921
00:48:01,705 --> 00:48:04,855
You will make comments on the remaining items

922
00:48:04,855 --> 00:48:08,455
We'll introduce the items we had.

923
00:48:08,575 --> 00:48:12,850
Jeff on the front of number seven.

924
00:48:12,850 --> 00:48:12,725
Yes.

925
00:48:12,725 --> 00:48:13,225
Yes.

926
00:48:13,225 --> 00:48:15,265
Tonight tonight's regular consent agenda

927
00:48:15,265 --> 00:48:17,786
consists of seven items as follows.

928
00:48:17,786 --> 00:48:18,445
A resolution.

929
00:48:18,445 --> 00:48:20,845
A resolution designated a portion of Garry Street

930
00:48:20,845 --> 00:48:24,443
as Madison Marsh Avenue in honor of Madison Marsh

931
00:48:24,443 --> 00:48:27,475
for a resolution designating a portion of riverfront drive

932
00:48:27,475 --> 00:48:30,775
as Judge Jim Spears court in honor of the right,

933
00:48:30,775 --> 00:48:34,165
Jim Spears a resolution approving a contract with Steve

934
00:48:34,165 --> 00:48:39,565
Creek, LLC in the amount of $1,530,825.65 for a street

935
00:48:41,255 --> 00:48:41,755
overlay.

936
00:48:41,755 --> 00:48:46,555
Reconsider action Project number 20 4-03-FA resolution approving

937
00:48:47,215 --> 00:48:51,565
a contract with Denali Water Systems in the amount i'm sorry,

938
00:48:51,565 --> 00:48:56,215
Denali water Solutions in the amount of $919,000 for cleaning.

939
00:48:56,215 --> 00:48:58,750
Lake Fort Smith Water Treatment Plant

940
00:48:58,750 --> 00:49:01,915
Lagoon number two and Leaf Creek Water treatment Plant Lagoon.

941
00:49:01,915 --> 00:49:04,705
Number one, a resolution approving the purchase

942
00:49:04,705 --> 00:49:08,755
of two grit conveyors for the maser reclamation facility

943
00:49:08,755 --> 00:49:11,575
a resolution approving an agreement with the city's

944
00:49:11,575 --> 00:49:14,185
construction for construction and management services related

945
00:49:14,185 --> 00:49:16,285
to the creek moore Park Pumphouse renovation

946
00:49:16,285 --> 00:49:19,165
project and a resolution approving agreement

947
00:49:19,165 --> 00:49:22,585
with the western Arkansas Tennis association for Operation

948
00:49:22,585 --> 00:49:25,105
of the Tennis Center at Creedmoor Park Okay.

949
00:49:25,105 --> 00:49:26,965
Thank you very much.

950
00:49:26,965 --> 00:49:30,385
Do we have any citizens comments on any of these items?

951
00:49:30,385 --> 00:49:33,475
Yes, we do have several The first for item Seven

952
00:49:33,475 --> 00:49:35,475
A, Karen Mills.

953
00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:42,300
Okay So i'm just here to answer questions I mean,

954
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:50,245
Madison is a 28 2019 graduate of Southside High School,

955
00:49:50,245 --> 00:49:54,745
the first graduate of the United States Air Force Academy

956
00:49:54,745 --> 00:49:57,535
and a recent graduate of Harvard University.

957
00:49:57,535 --> 00:50:00,565
She is probably, I think, the only Fort Smith in that's

958
00:50:00,565 --> 00:50:03,865
been crowned Miss America And she was Miss America

959
00:50:03,865 --> 00:50:06,265
2024 and a first time.

960
00:50:06,385 --> 00:50:11,563
I mean, the first officer to receive 2 2 win the crown.

961
00:50:11,563 --> 00:50:15,295
So I think it would be a great honor She continues to give back

962
00:50:15,295 --> 00:50:19,765
to the city of Fort Smith with Whitney's race helping local pay

963
00:50:19,765 --> 00:50:23,965
and creating cancer patients with treatment assisted

964
00:50:24,295 --> 00:50:27,715
And she gives back a lot to this community.

965
00:50:27,715 --> 00:50:33,715
We thank you very much Next, we have Jason scarlett's

966
00:50:35,650 --> 00:50:37,650
which item 777.

967
00:50:37,895 --> 00:50:38,395
Eight.

968
00:50:38,395 --> 00:50:40,795
Okay So Hello, again.

969
00:50:58,115 --> 00:51:00,145
I'm going to save you all a little bit of time.

970
00:51:00,145 --> 00:51:03,895
I'm going to address my three items at once here.

971
00:51:03,895 --> 00:51:06,475
If you would just address item.

972
00:51:06,475 --> 00:51:08,785
This is that we're discussing right now,

973
00:51:08,785 --> 00:51:11,785
if you don't mind All right, I'll stick with item

974
00:51:11,785 --> 00:51:13,305
and waste some more of your time,

975
00:51:13,305 --> 00:51:17,505
then I'm not necessarily opposed to this

976
00:51:19,285 --> 00:51:26,215
or item B of renaming streets My main concern is i don't really

977
00:51:26,215 --> 00:51:32,215
think this is time well-spent Well used by this board.

978
00:51:33,595 --> 00:51:37,255
I think we have much bigger priorities than

979
00:51:37,255 --> 00:51:43,285
to rename a section of road that no one's even going to notice.

980
00:51:43,285 --> 00:51:46,885
Thank you Okay Seven B okay.

981
00:51:53,995 --> 00:51:58,195
Seven C Jason's garments And I'm back

982
00:52:12,865 --> 00:52:16,105
I came across some information just the other yesterday.

983
00:52:16,105 --> 00:52:21,175
I think it was posted in Facebook by Andy Phosphoric I

984
00:52:21,175 --> 00:52:25,375
think this item should be reconsidered based

985
00:52:25,375 --> 00:52:32,575
on based on the fact that is being planned to extend jenny

986
00:52:32,605 --> 00:52:35,605
Lind to connect to Highway 45.

987
00:52:36,115 --> 00:52:38,515
If i'm remembering correctly I think

988
00:52:38,515 --> 00:52:41,425
that needs to be studied out before this particular item is

989
00:52:41,425 --> 00:52:47,425
approved for item seven D. We have joined mcCUTCHEON tonight.

990
00:52:59,575 --> 00:53:03,535
We're approving a bid from Denali water Solutions

991
00:53:03,535 --> 00:53:05,935
in the amount of 19 $919,000.

992
00:53:10,645 --> 00:53:12,835
My memory is not so short.

993
00:53:12,835 --> 00:53:16,135
I remember in 2019 when Mayor McGill and Good

994
00:53:16,135 --> 00:53:20,851
Faith dealt with Denali and they told Mayor McGill that they were

995
00:53:20,851 --> 00:53:24,475
going to shut down that stink hole over there

996
00:53:24,475 --> 00:53:28,641
and they didn't do it until we filed a lawsuit.

997
00:53:28,641 --> 00:53:33,441
Bruce bonds filed a lawsuit in 2025, which resulted

998
00:53:35,695 --> 00:53:38,156
in Resolution of the problem.

999
00:53:38,156 --> 00:53:40,885
So my memory's not so sure I think

1000
00:53:40,885 --> 00:53:42,475
this board needs to get assurance

1001
00:53:42,475 --> 00:53:44,650
is that they are doing that.

1002
00:53:44,650 --> 00:53:49,705
That's what we've done through a lawsuit since January of 2026.

1003
00:53:49,705 --> 00:53:54,175
Denali has not delivered materials to that lagoon.

1004
00:53:54,175 --> 00:53:57,565
They've also are now pursuing formal closure

1005
00:53:57,565 --> 00:54:01,975
of the permit and the operations at that site

1006
00:54:01,975 --> 00:54:06,115
They've told me that Denali will file the closure plan as

1007
00:54:06,115 --> 00:54:08,125
early as July or August.

1008
00:54:08,125 --> 00:54:11,485
Has anybody on this board checked to see if Denali has

1009
00:54:11,485 --> 00:54:16,285
filed to closure plan before we grant them $919,000

1010
00:54:16,765 --> 00:54:18,595
of our money?

1011
00:54:18,595 --> 00:54:21,595
They also identified early spring

1012
00:54:21,805 --> 00:54:27,595
2027 is the date that they would fully remove all the materials

1013
00:54:27,595 --> 00:54:29,567
from that that pit over there.

1014
00:54:29,567 --> 00:54:32,545
That's been causing us that's causing major grief

1015
00:54:32,545 --> 00:54:36,145
to our citizens, has closed businesses

1016
00:54:36,145 --> 00:54:40,435
has resulted in loss of revenue for four restaurants,

1017
00:54:40,435 --> 00:54:42,265
for clothes and people.

1018
00:54:42,265 --> 00:54:44,155
I've talked to all of those people.

1019
00:54:44,155 --> 00:54:47,665
So I think look like they might be the lowest bid.

1020
00:54:47,665 --> 00:54:50,635
But I think all of these things play in together

1021
00:54:50,635 --> 00:54:54,835
and when somebody reneged on a promise

1022
00:54:54,835 --> 00:54:57,775
that they made to our mayor in 2000, 19

1023
00:54:57,775 --> 00:55:01,345
and we have to live with it for another 6 or 8 years,

1024
00:55:01,345 --> 00:55:04,645
I think this board needs to at least discuss that issue.

1025
00:55:04,645 --> 00:55:05,395
Thank you.

1026
00:55:05,395 --> 00:55:11,395
Thank you Also for 70, we have Eric Weidman Good evening.

1027
00:55:18,850 --> 00:55:22,350
Board Jeff and the mayor I didn't

1028
00:55:22,350 --> 00:55:24,535
get a chance to do my research on this one, but kind of like

1029
00:55:24,535 --> 00:55:24,715
go.

1030
00:55:24,715 --> 00:55:26,635
He said, I'd really like i don't remember

1031
00:55:26,635 --> 00:55:28,207
this being in a study session.

1032
00:55:28,207 --> 00:55:29,665
Have y'all really looked into this,

1033
00:55:29,665 --> 00:55:31,915
going into another contract with somebody?

1034
00:55:31,915 --> 00:55:35,665
Haven't lived up to their previous obligations.

1035
00:55:35,665 --> 00:55:37,196
I would urge some caution here.

1036
00:55:37,196 --> 00:55:41,996
Thank you for seven e we have Kristen

1037
00:55:45,295 --> 00:55:50,950
kitchens your so great new board and mayor

1038
00:56:06,389 --> 00:56:07,990
and I'm the wait for her.

1039
00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:09,960
But I get the paperwork real quick

1040
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,760
before we do this You got to move.

1041
00:56:17,767 --> 00:56:18,875
That clock's ticking.

1042
00:56:18,875 --> 00:56:19,429
OK.

1043
00:56:19,429 --> 00:56:22,435
So basically Mid-South automation who's got

1044
00:56:22,435 --> 00:56:24,445
approved for this purchase?

1045
00:56:24,445 --> 00:56:27,295
It's a local vendor and also includes

1046
00:56:27,295 --> 00:56:30,784
an 18 We gave them tax back money

1047
00:56:30,784 --> 00:56:33,700
and we have some permit issues at the site.

1048
00:56:33,700 --> 00:56:34,945
And I've been thinking about permanent issues

1049
00:56:34,945 --> 00:56:38,310
within our city for the past couple of weeks now.

1050
00:56:38,310 --> 00:56:41,395
And so basically, this was a Superfund site

1051
00:56:41,395 --> 00:56:44,463
and i was up for cleanup.

1052
00:56:44,463 --> 00:56:48,835
And the ePA site is under Brady enterprises

1053
00:56:48,835 --> 00:56:52,495
and under there you will see that will be on the back page.

1054
00:56:52,495 --> 00:56:55,450
It will it'll go down to Mid-South Automation

1055
00:56:55,450 --> 00:56:56,485
So it's the same building.

1056
00:56:56,485 --> 00:56:58,135
And this is st my owner.

1057
00:56:58,135 --> 00:56:59,905
And then also you're going to see

1058
00:56:59,905 --> 00:57:04,135
that this is a hazardous waste facility and so,

1059
00:57:04,135 --> 00:57:06,227
so much hazardous waste goes out of it.

1060
00:57:06,227 --> 00:57:09,145
And we have no stormwater permit within our city

1061
00:57:09,145 --> 00:57:12,835
And so before we go behind something for our water

1062
00:57:12,835 --> 00:57:17,335
treatment facility, I would that if you know,

1063
00:57:17,335 --> 00:57:19,585
we don't have a permit for this company or anything,

1064
00:57:19,585 --> 00:57:21,293
I think that we should put a halt on this

1065
00:57:21,293 --> 00:57:23,425
and find out exactly what's really going on here.

1066
00:57:23,425 --> 00:57:25,750
And also, I've been with you guys

1067
00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:28,735
about taking on this facility fees and permits for a long time

1068
00:57:28,735 --> 00:57:31,255
now, and nobody seems to be doing it.

1069
00:57:31,255 --> 00:57:37,255
And and I brought it up numerous times OK Okay.

1070
00:57:37,765 --> 00:57:39,205
Thank you.

1071
00:57:39,205 --> 00:57:41,395
You don't have anything to say I'm not following

1072
00:57:41,395 --> 00:57:42,478
what you're talking about.

1073
00:57:42,478 --> 00:57:44,516
This is city center wastewater treatment Yes.

1074
00:57:44,516 --> 00:57:46,754
So, no, there's this not a Superfund site,

1075
00:57:46,754 --> 00:57:48,754
but this company right here is selling something

1076
00:57:48,754 --> 00:57:52,550
that we're you buying to fix our water facility right?

1077
00:57:52,550 --> 00:57:52,555
Yeah.

1078
00:57:52,555 --> 00:57:55,358
And so it's not a Superfund site now, but yet with this site

1079
00:57:55,358 --> 00:57:56,775
here, it makes hazardous material,

1080
00:57:56,775 --> 00:57:58,885
and we have a storm water permit on them.

1081
00:57:58,885 --> 00:58:02,715
I mean, I know our city limits It's a grit conveyor.

1082
00:58:02,715 --> 00:58:03,542
OK.

1083
00:58:03,542 --> 00:58:05,215
So whether it's a cricket bat or not,

1084
00:58:05,215 --> 00:58:08,965
this company is in our town, our city,

1085
00:58:08,965 --> 00:58:11,365
and it does not have stormwater permits

1086
00:58:11,365 --> 00:58:12,955
and it's got hazardous waste.

1087
00:58:12,955 --> 00:58:14,120
They don't need one.

1088
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:14,845
They don't need one.

1089
00:58:14,845 --> 00:58:15,345
Really.

1090
00:58:15,345 --> 00:58:20,145
They're making a great conveyor Okay Thank you

1091
00:58:22,195 --> 00:58:29,395
I mean, that also for seven e, we have ten Williams Dan

1092
00:58:32,650 --> 00:58:34,525
Williams and maybe this will bring a little bit light

1093
00:58:34,525 --> 00:58:36,505
point of information out here.

1094
00:58:36,505 --> 00:58:37,975
There's kind of three red flags.

1095
00:58:37,975 --> 00:58:40,525
I want to talk about on this particular deal.

1096
00:58:40,525 --> 00:58:45,145
One is that this particular bid was too good to be true.

1097
00:58:45,145 --> 00:58:51,145
And so the other bids were 90, 68 and 104 for percent higher.

1098
00:58:51,325 --> 00:58:53,515
And so it kind of threw a red flag out for me.

1099
00:58:53,515 --> 00:58:55,315
And I looked into what kind of what

1100
00:58:55,315 --> 00:58:58,225
she was talking about this particular company does have

1101
00:58:58,225 --> 00:59:03,250
some permit issues if they go on site to that particular facility

1102
00:59:03,250 --> 00:59:06,265
they can't do any welding They can't do any painting.

1103
00:59:06,265 --> 00:59:07,465
There are some restrictions.

1104
00:59:07,465 --> 00:59:08,365
Okay.

1105
00:59:08,365 --> 00:59:09,925
Which brings up another concern.

1106
00:59:09,925 --> 00:59:11,425
If i have to do any of that, they

1107
00:59:11,425 --> 00:59:12,985
can do it on site at their place,

1108
00:59:12,985 --> 00:59:16,705
but they can't do it on site at this facility with that

1109
00:59:16,705 --> 00:59:19,195
low bid was everything bid in?

1110
00:59:19,195 --> 00:59:20,905
Is this a turnkey project?

1111
00:59:20,905 --> 00:59:22,105
Was everything bid in?

1112
00:59:22,105 --> 00:59:25,435
We need that for an event formation because they are doing

1113
00:59:25,435 --> 00:59:27,565
stainless steel fabrication Typically

1114
00:59:27,565 --> 00:59:29,485
you don't have to paint but there

1115
00:59:29,485 --> 00:59:32,935
is some times when you weld you might have to coat that

1116
00:59:32,935 --> 00:59:35,545
and they don't have the permit for the coding of that.

1117
00:59:35,545 --> 00:59:39,865
These three bids put potentially the other people

1118
00:59:39,865 --> 00:59:41,785
that bid that much higher.

1119
00:59:41,785 --> 00:59:45,325
Was it because they bid electrical connection about

1120
00:59:45,325 --> 00:59:47,697
and other process of that?

1121
00:59:47,697 --> 00:59:49,405
I just feel like there's some things that

1122
00:59:49,405 --> 00:59:50,280
need to be looked at.

1123
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,280
So thank you Thank you.

1124
00:59:55,735 --> 01:00:01,735
And last for seven if we have Shane McKinney Hi,

1125
01:00:06,557 --> 01:00:08,515
I'm probably not going to talk for a very long.

1126
01:00:08,515 --> 01:00:11,650
I just want to ask a couple questions.

1127
01:00:11,650 --> 01:00:15,595
This isn't exactly a whole lot of money, but when I see pumps,

1128
01:00:15,595 --> 01:00:17,785
house renovations that kind of reminds me

1129
01:00:17,785 --> 01:00:19,735
of the recent one that kind of got a lot more

1130
01:00:19,735 --> 01:00:21,985
expensive because we didn't ask the relevant questions

1131
01:00:21,985 --> 01:00:23,350
around it.

1132
01:00:23,350 --> 01:00:24,893
So are there any statue shoes near this

1133
01:00:24,893 --> 01:00:26,185
that we might need to consider?

1134
01:00:26,185 --> 01:00:27,745
Is there anything going on there?

1135
01:00:27,745 --> 01:00:29,425
Have we called neighbors around?

1136
01:00:29,425 --> 01:00:30,811
Have we just checked in ?

1137
01:00:30,811 --> 01:00:32,478
And there may have been a solid subject,

1138
01:00:32,478 --> 01:00:34,295
but i think it's worth mentioning.

1139
01:00:34,295 --> 01:00:34,795
Okay.

1140
01:00:34,795 --> 01:00:39,595
Thank you That's all for the consent agenda.

1141
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:41,200
Okay.

1142
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:41,790
If that's all.

1143
01:00:41,790 --> 01:00:42,290
OK.

1144
01:00:42,290 --> 01:00:42,925
Thank you.

1145
01:00:42,925 --> 01:00:44,925
You.

1146
01:00:45,355 --> 01:00:47,735
May I make a motion to approve the consent agenda?

1147
01:00:47,735 --> 01:00:48,235
Okay.

1148
01:00:48,235 --> 01:00:49,855
Thank you New second.

1149
01:00:49,855 --> 01:00:50,545
Second.

1150
01:00:50,545 --> 01:00:51,265
Thank you, Mayor.

1151
01:00:51,265 --> 01:00:53,187
I did have a question on 70, though.

1152
01:00:53,187 --> 01:00:55,205
Yes Any questions on seven, Denise?

1153
01:00:55,205 --> 01:00:55,705
One.

1154
01:00:55,705 --> 01:00:56,425
Okay.

1155
01:00:56,425 --> 01:00:58,450
I guess maybe this question.

1156
01:00:58,450 --> 01:00:58,855
Thank you, Mayor.

1157
01:00:58,855 --> 01:01:01,435
I think maybe this question is for Jeff.

1158
01:01:01,435 --> 01:01:04,375
Jeff, could you just talk us through a little bit

1159
01:01:04,375 --> 01:01:09,505
of the process of selecting Denali for this project?

1160
01:01:09,505 --> 01:01:13,505
Why would need to defer, I think, to Jimmy Johnson

1161
01:01:13,505 --> 01:01:16,735
that engineering department operate this program?

1162
01:01:16,735 --> 01:01:19,255
They did go through the process of identifying this need

1163
01:01:19,255 --> 01:01:23,545
to remove the grant from the clear water lagoons

1164
01:01:23,545 --> 01:01:26,605
at at the water treatment plants, which

1165
01:01:26,605 --> 01:01:29,785
is a different animal venture than cleaning the sewer

1166
01:01:29,785 --> 01:01:31,815
lagoons and so, Jim.

1167
01:01:31,815 --> 01:01:33,415
So this is Abby.

1168
01:01:33,415 --> 01:01:34,550
Jimmy.

1169
01:01:34,550 --> 01:01:37,655
So this is obviously different thing

1170
01:01:38,215 --> 01:01:40,885
than what was generating the smell and whatnot.

1171
01:01:40,885 --> 01:01:43,225
But two points that have been made about, you know,

1172
01:01:43,225 --> 01:01:46,165
reputation SSiOn and things like that.

1173
01:01:46,165 --> 01:01:47,905
What was the thought process of you,

1174
01:01:47,905 --> 01:01:50,845
all of selecting Denali Are they,

1175
01:01:50,845 --> 01:01:53,125
are there other entities that do this kind of work?

1176
01:01:53,125 --> 01:01:54,415
Can you talk to us about that?

1177
01:01:54,415 --> 01:01:57,205
So we had three and into these, so we're

1178
01:01:57,205 --> 01:01:58,765
interested in the project.

1179
01:01:58,765 --> 01:02:00,445
This time around.

1180
01:02:00,445 --> 01:02:03,805
We had two that actually picked up clams.

1181
01:02:03,805 --> 01:02:07,555
We had three interviews that actually showed up

1182
01:02:07,555 --> 01:02:09,550
at our Pre-bid meeting.

1183
01:02:09,550 --> 01:02:12,850
So we we actually take them to the site and show them around.

1184
01:02:12,850 --> 01:02:14,545
So they're familiar with the project.

1185
01:02:14,545 --> 01:02:18,865
So we had three, but only two of them picked up.

1186
01:02:18,865 --> 01:02:20,625
And one of them decided not to bid

1187
01:02:20,625 --> 01:02:23,785
and they decided not to bid because they're out of state.

1188
01:02:23,785 --> 01:02:26,485
They don't have a contract for license here in Arkansas.

1189
01:02:26,485 --> 01:02:29,936
So they're going to be over the next year.

1190
01:02:29,936 --> 01:02:32,650
We're going to have to clean out some more lagoons.

1191
01:02:32,650 --> 01:02:34,765
So over the next year, the until then, they're

1192
01:02:34,765 --> 01:02:37,345
going to be working toward their contract for license like

1193
01:02:37,345 --> 01:02:39,955
and they can also submit a bid on this

1194
01:02:39,955 --> 01:02:42,565
So Denali was the sort of last company left

1195
01:02:42,565 --> 01:02:46,255
standing to do this for critical time sensitive work.

1196
01:02:46,255 --> 01:02:47,500
That's correct.

1197
01:02:47,500 --> 01:02:53,845
Thank you Okay, General ask has not ever done any work for us.

1198
01:02:53,845 --> 01:02:55,325
Is this a first project with us?

1199
01:02:55,325 --> 01:02:55,825
No.

1200
01:02:55,825 --> 01:02:56,325
Sort of.

1201
01:02:56,325 --> 01:02:58,525
They have a long working history with us

1202
01:02:58,525 --> 01:03:00,205
for doing this type work.

1203
01:03:00,205 --> 01:03:00,955
Okay.

1204
01:03:00,955 --> 01:03:05,500
Thank you Director Neil Moore So I

1205
01:03:05,500 --> 01:03:08,515
guess i went back and did a little research on this.

1206
01:03:08,515 --> 01:03:11,125
It seems like every time we do this work Denali

1207
01:03:11,125 --> 01:03:14,904
is the only bidder or the only one that submits a bid.

1208
01:03:14,904 --> 01:03:17,665
I gave them back in 2019, One bid.

1209
01:03:17,665 --> 01:03:20,185
It was Denali Is there no one?

1210
01:03:20,185 --> 01:03:22,292
I mean, I know you just mentioned what you just

1211
01:03:22,292 --> 01:03:24,625
mentioned about somebody earning the contractor license,

1212
01:03:24,625 --> 01:03:29,425
but it seems like historically all is it.

1213
01:03:30,850 --> 01:03:33,955
And what what kind of ties in their land applying

1214
01:03:33,955 --> 01:03:38,515
the sludge which I have a sample here it doesn't smell

1215
01:03:38,515 --> 01:03:42,925
but it still has to be applied on land

1216
01:03:42,925 --> 01:03:45,925
And there's regulations for that You can

1217
01:03:45,925 --> 01:03:50,680
you can only apply for so much per year on the property

1218
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,555
and they have to have a permit from the state

1219
01:03:52,555 --> 01:03:54,265
to apply that property.

1220
01:03:54,265 --> 01:03:58,467
And Denali has a lot of standing property around Arkansas

1221
01:03:58,467 --> 01:04:01,880
that they can apply this material to There were

1222
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,499
no other entities that can do this work in the state

1223
01:04:04,499 --> 01:04:07,150
of Arkansas There are other entities that

1224
01:04:07,150 --> 01:04:11,710
do the work in Arkansas, but they don't have any land locally

1225
01:04:11,710 --> 01:04:13,173
to apply.

1226
01:04:13,173 --> 01:04:16,975
So they would have to go out and find farmers that would

1227
01:04:16,975 --> 01:04:19,495
significant land that they can apply

1228
01:04:19,495 --> 01:04:23,950
this on And that takes time.

1229
01:04:23,605 --> 01:04:26,500
And so next year.

1230
01:04:26,230 --> 01:04:29,499
If we get the funding to to clean out some more games,

1231
01:04:29,499 --> 01:04:33,595
our plan is, is to actually bid this project

1232
01:04:33,595 --> 01:04:38,815
at the first of the year and not issue a notice

1233
01:04:38,815 --> 01:04:40,356
to proceed until the summer.

1234
01:04:40,356 --> 01:04:42,715
So that gives the contractors a longer time

1235
01:04:42,715 --> 01:04:44,995
to acquire any farmland that they

1236
01:04:44,995 --> 01:04:49,345
need to apply We need to get someone besides Denali bidding

1237
01:04:49,345 --> 01:04:50,605
on this thing.

1238
01:04:50,605 --> 01:04:52,450
I mean, it's a one bid.

1239
01:04:52,450 --> 01:04:56,580
I don't like it And this is historic.

1240
01:04:56,580 --> 01:04:58,375
I mean this is happening every year.

1241
01:04:58,375 --> 01:04:59,245
How so?

1242
01:04:59,245 --> 01:05:00,115
We're cleaning.

1243
01:05:00,115 --> 01:05:01,945
We've got various lagoons there and they're

1244
01:05:01,945 --> 01:05:03,325
cleaning one at a time.

1245
01:05:03,325 --> 01:05:03,895
One year.

1246
01:05:03,895 --> 01:05:04,675
One year?

1247
01:05:04,675 --> 01:05:08,335
Yes So, I mean, so we always seems like we always

1248
01:05:08,335 --> 01:05:11,127
have this every year or every other year

1249
01:05:11,127 --> 01:05:12,850
or something like that.

1250
01:05:12,850 --> 01:05:13,122
But it's always Denali.

1251
01:05:13,122 --> 01:05:14,455
We've got to get away from that.

1252
01:05:14,455 --> 01:05:14,955
Yeah.

1253
01:05:14,955 --> 01:05:17,305
So Lake creek has four lagoons and mountain Burke

1254
01:05:17,305 --> 01:05:18,205
has three lagoons.

1255
01:05:18,205 --> 01:05:21,145
I'm asking you guys to get me somebody besides I'm

1256
01:05:21,145 --> 01:05:22,855
not saying Denali can't do it, but I'm

1257
01:05:22,855 --> 01:05:25,430
saying i got to have somebody besides Denali.

1258
01:05:25,430 --> 01:05:27,850
There's got to be some competition in these bids.

1259
01:05:27,850 --> 01:05:32,275
So next year, at least need to, if not three.

1260
01:05:32,275 --> 01:05:32,855
Thank you.

1261
01:05:32,855 --> 01:05:33,355
Thank you.

1262
01:05:33,355 --> 01:05:37,978
Thank you Director Christina for service and then Director Kim.

1263
01:05:37,978 --> 01:05:39,997
Well, to Director Martin's point,

1264
01:05:39,997 --> 01:05:43,675
I brought this up last year I voted against it.

1265
01:05:43,675 --> 01:05:45,415
Yeah I said, why would we do business

1266
01:05:45,415 --> 01:05:48,175
with someone who has intentionally misled us

1267
01:05:48,175 --> 01:05:50,875
for years and years and years?

1268
01:05:50,875 --> 01:05:53,245
And we were told they were the only ones

1269
01:05:53,245 --> 01:05:55,896
and that we would have more options this year.

1270
01:05:55,896 --> 01:05:57,214
And here we are.

1271
01:05:57,214 --> 01:06:01,765
This year with no other options So I'll be voting no to this

1272
01:06:01,765 --> 01:06:03,745
as I have ready.

1273
01:06:03,745 --> 01:06:06,505
What happens if we don't move forward with this?

1274
01:06:06,505 --> 01:06:09,775
If we if we don't move forward with it?

1275
01:06:09,775 --> 01:06:13,705
So at Mount Berg, we've got three lagoons.

1276
01:06:13,705 --> 01:06:18,415
The third one is Polish and Lagoon Our the lagoons are full.

1277
01:06:18,415 --> 01:06:21,775
So the material starts spilling over into our Polish and lagoon

1278
01:06:21,775 --> 01:06:23,395
and start filling up the lagoon.

1279
01:06:23,395 --> 01:06:26,365
We still won't be discharging any of this material,

1280
01:06:26,365 --> 01:06:31,375
but we'll be filling up a lagoon which is our smaller lagoon that

1281
01:06:31,375 --> 01:06:34,450
will eventually, when it fills up,

1282
01:06:34,450 --> 01:06:36,865
then it will overflow into the creek.

1283
01:06:36,865 --> 01:06:39,835
You know, last year when I voted against this

1284
01:06:39,835 --> 01:06:42,625
it was because we had just come from that hearing.

1285
01:06:42,625 --> 01:06:44,485
It was fresh off that hearing.

1286
01:06:44,485 --> 01:06:48,265
I think i was the only director that went or maybe Jorge,

1287
01:06:48,265 --> 01:06:51,175
did you go to that hearing in Elma ?

1288
01:06:51,175 --> 01:06:55,700
Yeah, yeah, yeah I think we may have been the only ones that

1289
01:06:55,700 --> 01:06:55,945
went to that hearing.

1290
01:06:55,945 --> 01:06:58,855
And Alma we spoke against the permit renewal for that project

1291
01:06:58,855 --> 01:06:59,545
they are.

1292
01:06:59,545 --> 01:07:02,100
And I don't know if I've ever been at a hearing

1293
01:07:02,100 --> 01:07:03,715
where I felt so helpless you know,

1294
01:07:03,715 --> 01:07:05,950
it was like the fix was in.

1295
01:07:05,950 --> 01:07:09,535
We knew the permit was getting renewed and everyone spoke

1296
01:07:09,535 --> 01:07:11,464
so passionately against it.

1297
01:07:11,464 --> 01:07:15,850
And then I came back, and I spoke passionately against it

1298
01:07:15,850 --> 01:07:18,235
against doing business with them here in my business

1299
01:07:18,235 --> 01:07:22,195
if I had someone that misled me for this many years I wouldn't

1300
01:07:22,195 --> 01:07:24,250
be doing business with them again.

1301
01:07:24,250 --> 01:07:28,585
And we were told we'd have more options this year and we don't.

1302
01:07:28,585 --> 01:07:31,453
And I'm not saying that that's on you,

1303
01:07:31,453 --> 01:07:34,525
but I'll be a note tonight just on principle.

1304
01:07:34,525 --> 01:07:36,177
Thank you Thank you, Director.

1305
01:07:36,177 --> 01:07:38,577
Can't thank you, Mayor.

1306
01:07:38,998 --> 01:07:40,165
And thank you for your time.

1307
01:07:40,165 --> 01:07:42,385
Jimmy I had a question on E as well

1308
01:07:42,385 --> 01:07:46,225
if you can answer that, I'm sure you'll be the one on E or is.

1309
01:07:46,225 --> 01:07:53,425
I see Lance standing was perhaps mr. McAvoy can be Yes, sir.

1310
01:08:00,295 --> 01:08:03,415
So could you speak to why the low price

1311
01:08:03,415 --> 01:08:09,853
and do they not have a permit to paint coatings and things Will

1312
01:08:09,853 --> 01:08:11,395
they will they be able to do the work

1313
01:08:11,395 --> 01:08:12,655
that we're asking them to do?

1314
01:08:12,655 --> 01:08:14,387
They are supplying the conveyors.

1315
01:08:14,387 --> 01:08:15,595
They are not installing them.

1316
01:08:15,595 --> 01:08:17,665
That will be a separate project.

1317
01:08:17,665 --> 01:08:21,235
This is just purchase the equipment, some of the equipment

1318
01:08:21,235 --> 01:08:27,367
is pre manufactured that will be coming in again, if there.

1319
01:08:27,367 --> 01:08:30,625
I don't know about any of the issues that

1320
01:08:30,625 --> 01:08:33,445
were brought up on Superfund sites,

1321
01:08:33,445 --> 01:08:35,485
stormwater permits any of that.

1322
01:08:35,485 --> 01:08:38,939
Some of those deal with state permits and not local permits.

1323
01:08:38,939 --> 01:08:44,395
So we have no no way of enforcing any action like that.

1324
01:08:44,395 --> 01:08:49,735
If it was a state requirement we did ask if they can do the work

1325
01:08:49,735 --> 01:08:51,625
We did ask because of the price.

1326
01:08:51,625 --> 01:08:53,650
That was a red flag to me.

1327
01:08:53,650 --> 01:08:55,945
I had them verify it three different times.

1328
01:08:55,945 --> 01:08:58,915
That that was the price for to not just one,

1329
01:08:58,915 --> 01:09:02,950
because to me, that came in looking at like one

1330
01:09:02,950 --> 01:09:07,542
we received a written agreement that, yes, this is for two.

1331
01:09:07,542 --> 01:09:09,735
And that's where we stand.

1332
01:09:09,735 --> 01:09:13,645
And as it stands, if it approves and goes forth this

1333
01:09:13,645 --> 01:09:17,794
there's no concerns about you getting a product that's

1334
01:09:17,794 --> 01:09:19,860
not befitting to what you need.

1335
01:09:19,860 --> 01:09:19,430
Correct.

1336
01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:20,130
Appreciate it.

1337
01:09:20,130 --> 01:09:22,975
Will meet the standards that we set forth in the

1338
01:09:22,975 --> 01:09:24,505
in the bid requirements Okay.

1339
01:09:24,505 --> 01:09:26,935
And then one of the questions, Mr. Johnson

1340
01:09:26,935 --> 01:09:31,241
on Item D you know, for us I mean, I'm sympathetic.

1341
01:09:31,241 --> 01:09:32,425
I wish we had more bids.

1342
01:09:32,425 --> 01:09:35,185
This also sounds like this work is very important

1343
01:09:35,185 --> 01:09:36,949
and needs to happen in a timely manner.

1344
01:09:36,949 --> 01:09:37,616
Is that correct?

1345
01:09:37,616 --> 01:09:41,308
Yes, sir And I think that's why I have a question.

1346
01:09:41,308 --> 01:09:43,235
I think you directed Newman.

1347
01:09:43,235 --> 01:09:43,735
Yeah.

1348
01:09:43,735 --> 01:09:44,465
On on E!

1349
01:09:44,465 --> 01:09:45,565
We'll talk about this one.

1350
01:09:45,565 --> 01:09:49,195
So this is a different sized trough

1351
01:09:49,195 --> 01:09:53,395
This is a ten inch trough versus the others being 12.

1352
01:09:53,395 --> 01:09:56,755
And I think one of those 13, am I correct on that?

1353
01:09:56,755 --> 01:09:58,768
I would have i don't have my computer.

1354
01:09:58,768 --> 01:09:59,965
I don't have a print out.

1355
01:09:59,965 --> 01:10:01,975
So I feel like we're not getting an apples

1356
01:10:01,975 --> 01:10:04,593
to apples comparison on these bids I mean,

1357
01:10:04,593 --> 01:10:05,954
it's obvious in the price.

1358
01:10:05,954 --> 01:10:10,705
So, I mean, how how can we is it because there's no installation?

1359
01:10:10,705 --> 01:10:12,805
Is that is that the difference?

1360
01:10:12,805 --> 01:10:17,500
I when we put out the requirements,

1361
01:10:17,485 --> 01:10:21,115
we give them a range of size and it's

1362
01:10:21,115 --> 01:10:23,785
based on what they can get from their manufacturer.

1363
01:10:23,785 --> 01:10:29,695
So a lot of these are purchased from a third party.

1364
01:10:29,695 --> 01:10:32,455
So I'll use iSI, for example.

1365
01:10:32,455 --> 01:10:35,695
They're a very well supplier buyer and they

1366
01:10:35,695 --> 01:10:41,695
carry certain brands head works, Mueller Things of that nature.

1367
01:10:42,373 --> 01:10:43,915
And they're the only ones in Arkansas

1368
01:10:43,915 --> 01:10:45,835
that are allowed to carry that.

1369
01:10:45,835 --> 01:10:48,775
So when you get a third party like this

1370
01:10:48,775 --> 01:10:52,285
that can find it because they're not under contract with some

1371
01:10:52,285 --> 01:10:58,405
of these supply buyers, they can get it for us at less cost Hmm.

1372
01:10:58,405 --> 01:11:05,500
Okay Okay Do we do we believe and so so Midwest

1373
01:11:08,275 --> 01:11:09,739
is fabricating this.

1374
01:11:09,739 --> 01:11:11,569
They're assembling something from Thomas

1375
01:11:11,569 --> 01:11:15,925
materials Do we think this will be harder to fix in the future

1376
01:11:15,925 --> 01:11:19,105
if we have an issue versus some of the other?

1377
01:11:19,105 --> 01:11:21,759
I think it'll be easier because we'll have someone local that

1378
01:11:21,759 --> 01:11:22,651
can repair it.

1379
01:11:22,651 --> 01:11:24,882
And we are if you'll notice in the memo,

1380
01:11:24,882 --> 01:11:28,255
it states that we are going with stainless steel Yes,

1381
01:11:28,255 --> 01:11:30,145
stainless steel will hold up because this

1382
01:11:30,145 --> 01:11:33,415
is in a very moist and corrosive environment

1383
01:11:33,415 --> 01:11:36,385
and that's where it just wears down over time.

1384
01:11:36,385 --> 01:11:40,150
If you have something that isn't of that quality,

1385
01:11:40,150 --> 01:11:46,150
okay, I mean I don't pretend to be a great conveyor expert,

1386
01:11:46,150 --> 01:11:50,800
but just there was some there's some issues around Thomas being

1387
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:54,919
a screw conveyor company and not a wastewater great special list.

1388
01:11:54,919 --> 01:11:56,905
Any concerns about that at all?

1389
01:11:56,905 --> 01:11:59,278
A screw conveyor is a screw conveyor,

1390
01:11:59,278 --> 01:12:04,144
whether it's doing grit or sand or even water.

1391
01:12:04,144 --> 01:12:08,575
He use a screw conveyor for water In some applications,

1392
01:12:08,575 --> 01:12:12,850
it's it's just how are you moving the media that you're

1393
01:12:12,850 --> 01:12:16,165
interested in okay from a from a warranty perspective.

1394
01:12:16,165 --> 01:12:18,535
I don't know if I necessarily saw that.

1395
01:12:18,535 --> 01:12:22,645
But if you good with the warranty Yes on this okay.

1396
01:12:22,645 --> 01:12:25,375
And we're we're going to have somebody else come in

1397
01:12:25,375 --> 01:12:28,225
and install either we will install it ourselves

1398
01:12:28,225 --> 01:12:29,635
or we will have a third party.

1399
01:12:29,635 --> 01:12:31,375
We will look and see what it will

1400
01:12:31,375 --> 01:12:34,185
take to do that and see what our our label said.

1401
01:12:34,185 --> 01:12:35,885
So we don't know what that cost is this.

1402
01:12:35,885 --> 01:12:36,905
We don't know what that.

1403
01:12:36,905 --> 01:12:41,705
So it's 78,000 now install them could be another 50.

1404
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:47,469
I don't know we would build that out as well.

1405
01:12:47,469 --> 01:12:51,595
Do you so would that would we have installation cost

1406
01:12:51,595 --> 01:12:53,700
for the other three bidders.

1407
01:12:53,700 --> 01:12:54,527
Yes, we would.

1408
01:12:54,527 --> 01:12:57,280
OK that was just that's just the equipment.

1409
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:57,529
OK.

1410
01:12:57,529 --> 01:13:00,205
Just looking at this, just I know I

1411
01:13:00,205 --> 01:13:03,805
that's why I ask three times.

1412
01:13:03,809 --> 01:13:09,115
Rahul my deputy actually the day that I wrote the email,

1413
01:13:09,115 --> 01:13:12,415
he contacted them again to ensure

1414
01:13:12,415 --> 01:13:14,902
that that was for two and not one, because to me,

1415
01:13:14,902 --> 01:13:17,305
it looks like it's just supplying one.

1416
01:13:17,305 --> 01:13:18,235
He was assured.

1417
01:13:18,235 --> 01:13:20,260
And it is in writing that it is 2.

1418
01:13:20,260 --> 01:13:20,760
OK.

1419
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,977
Okay A couple of other questions real quick

1420
01:13:22,977 --> 01:13:24,685
Not necessarily really this related item.

1421
01:13:24,685 --> 01:13:29,789
See, this is with Steep Creek We've this is a first to conch.

1422
01:13:29,789 --> 01:13:32,752
I don't know if my streets guys here I'm

1423
01:13:32,752 --> 01:13:33,835
feeling you're feeling it.

1424
01:13:33,835 --> 01:13:34,335
Okay.

1425
01:13:34,335 --> 01:13:38,905
So we've only had two contracts with Steep Creek

1426
01:13:38,905 --> 01:13:40,285
since I've been on the board.

1427
01:13:40,285 --> 01:13:41,681
They've been in the last month.

1428
01:13:41,681 --> 01:13:42,306
That's correct.

1429
01:13:42,306 --> 01:13:43,431
What do we know about them?

1430
01:13:43,431 --> 01:13:44,845
They're fairly new.

1431
01:13:44,845 --> 01:13:46,345
They've got a consent decree project

1432
01:13:46,345 --> 01:13:48,175
and now they've got a street project right.

1433
01:13:48,175 --> 01:13:51,775
And we've we've called their references

1434
01:13:53,247 --> 01:13:54,505
when we have a new contract.

1435
01:13:54,505 --> 01:13:59,365
We used to have them providers references the references,

1436
01:13:59,365 --> 01:14:06,148
give them good reviews and i think Larry is Larry still here?

1437
01:14:06,148 --> 01:14:10,348
Larry Yancey but we also had Hopkins.

1438
01:14:10,714 --> 01:14:12,805
We're on a consent decree project.

1439
01:14:12,805 --> 01:14:16,710
You know, they, they had some experience with them,

1440
01:14:16,710 --> 01:14:19,195
had other cities Okay, okay.

1441
01:14:19,195 --> 01:14:20,678
Let's just be mindful of that.

1442
01:14:20,678 --> 01:14:22,136
I want to keep eyeballs on it, make

1443
01:14:22,136 --> 01:14:24,745
sure we know what's going on and specific.

1444
01:14:24,745 --> 01:14:27,780
I want to go back to item a and B,

1445
01:14:27,780 --> 01:14:28,495
you know I think one of the things

1446
01:14:28,495 --> 01:14:32,545
that we need to do as a city is celebrate our champions.

1447
01:14:32,545 --> 01:14:35,575
You know, we've got Jaylen Williams, we've got Isaiah Joe,

1448
01:14:35,575 --> 01:14:38,365
we've got Bobby Crabtree we've got the Rainbow Girls.

1449
01:14:38,365 --> 01:14:42,250
Those are those are the ones that we've renamed Streets for.

1450
01:14:42,250 --> 01:14:44,425
And to have a miss America.

1451
01:14:44,425 --> 01:14:48,695
And you know, obviously the judge, I mean Judge Spears,

1452
01:14:48,695 --> 01:14:50,215
you know, we want to celebrate him.

1453
01:14:50,215 --> 01:14:51,925
He's been a great fort.

1454
01:14:51,925 --> 01:14:55,255
Smith Yeah, we need to sell a bright the good that we have.

1455
01:14:55,255 --> 01:14:58,585
And and so I'm all for renaming the streets,

1456
01:14:58,585 --> 01:15:00,990
even though it's honorary We need people

1457
01:15:00,990 --> 01:15:03,115
we need little girls to be able to look up and say,

1458
01:15:03,115 --> 01:15:07,165
Miss America came from here She's one of ours.

1459
01:15:07,165 --> 01:15:09,250
I will celebrate her all day long.

1460
01:15:09,250 --> 01:15:11,250
Miss Arkansas 1985.

1461
01:15:11,275 --> 01:15:12,537
I think, was from Fort Smith.

1462
01:15:12,537 --> 01:15:14,500
You may top 12 and is America.

1463
01:15:14,500 --> 01:15:16,855
Julie Russell lived across the street from me

1464
01:15:16,855 --> 01:15:19,645
So right right over on Ellsworth So she's

1465
01:15:19,645 --> 01:15:21,430
in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, now.

1466
01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:23,335
So hopefully she's watching this and I give her a shout

1467
01:15:23,335 --> 01:15:29,185
out But we have we have we have people here

1468
01:15:29,185 --> 01:15:31,885
that do amazing things, whether it be in business

1469
01:15:31,885 --> 01:15:36,505
whether it be in schooling, whether it be fighting flying

1470
01:15:36,505 --> 01:15:39,685
jets, whether it be being Miss America world champions,

1471
01:15:39,685 --> 01:15:44,635
Only three cities in the United States have two NBA champions

1472
01:15:44,635 --> 01:15:46,465
and one Miss America.

1473
01:15:46,465 --> 01:15:50,875
One of those is New York City one's Philadelphia Fort Smith,

1474
01:15:50,875 --> 01:15:53,875
Arkansas Thank you, Director Rigo.

1475
01:15:57,385 --> 01:15:58,135
Thank you, Mayor.

1476
01:15:58,135 --> 01:16:02,695
Well, Cedric Marty, I'd like to make a motion to table items

1477
01:16:02,695 --> 01:16:07,478
seven D to the September 15th regular meeting for a couple

1478
01:16:07,478 --> 01:16:08,395
of different purposes.

1479
01:16:08,395 --> 01:16:12,595
One, to allow administration to provide us

1480
01:16:12,805 --> 01:16:15,865
with additional context around the importance of this topic

1481
01:16:15,865 --> 01:16:18,203
and hopefully possibly some other options

1482
01:16:18,203 --> 01:16:19,865
of how to approach it.

1483
01:16:19,865 --> 01:16:22,345
And to allow for absent colleagues

1484
01:16:22,345 --> 01:16:26,395
to participate in important nearly $1 million infrastructure

1485
01:16:26,395 --> 01:16:27,878
in good, Good.

1486
01:16:27,878 --> 01:16:28,378
That's good.

1487
01:16:28,378 --> 01:16:30,378
You okay?

1488
01:16:30,482 --> 01:16:30,982
OK.

1489
01:16:30,982 --> 01:16:33,680
Do we need to vote on it Yes.

1490
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:33,568
Okay.

1491
01:16:33,568 --> 01:16:36,475
Madam Clerk, call the roll director.

1492
01:16:36,475 --> 01:16:38,475
Settle Okay Martin.

1493
01:16:42,895 --> 01:16:44,455
Yes Rigo?

1494
01:16:44,455 --> 01:16:46,865
Yes, Kemp Yes, George, Get Evans.

1495
01:16:46,865 --> 01:16:47,365
Yes.

1496
01:16:47,365 --> 01:16:48,325
Christina, get service.

1497
01:16:48,325 --> 01:16:48,985
Yes.

1498
01:16:48,985 --> 01:16:49,735
Motion passes.

1499
01:16:49,735 --> 01:16:50,965
Five in favor or I'm sorry.

1500
01:16:50,965 --> 01:16:52,135
Four and five and zero.

1501
01:16:52,135 --> 01:16:54,235
Five and five zero opposed.

1502
01:16:54,235 --> 01:16:56,750
I can't count this evening.

1503
01:16:56,750 --> 01:16:56,575
Okay.

1504
01:16:56,575 --> 01:16:57,750
Thank you.

1505
01:16:57,750 --> 01:16:57,895
Director Christina.

1506
01:16:57,895 --> 01:16:58,755
Chris Evans.

1507
01:16:58,755 --> 01:17:02,515
You were next in the queue on E !

1508
01:17:02,515 --> 01:17:05,500
That's not time sensitive We have 90 days,

1509
01:17:05,500 --> 01:17:10,765
don't we, to get additional bids for the great conveyor

1510
01:17:10,765 --> 01:17:12,295
we have 30 days.

1511
01:17:12,295 --> 01:17:15,260
Well, from when we received it from when that memo

1512
01:17:15,260 --> 01:17:16,705
We have 30 days from that date.

1513
01:17:16,705 --> 01:17:19,313
That's when the how the bid is good

1514
01:17:19,313 --> 01:17:22,750
for it is something about this just doesn't feel right.

1515
01:17:22,750 --> 01:17:24,295
I just don't feel comfortable moving forward

1516
01:17:24,295 --> 01:17:25,820
with it at this time.

1517
01:17:25,820 --> 01:17:26,820
You should table.

1518
01:17:26,820 --> 01:17:28,999
I know that that thing looks bad.

1519
01:17:28,999 --> 01:17:31,315
I saw the pictures of it looks bad.

1520
01:17:31,315 --> 01:17:32,310
I don't know.

1521
01:17:32,310 --> 01:17:35,305
We've made it All the repairs that we can at this time.

1522
01:17:35,305 --> 01:17:38,815
The shaft that is broken cannot be repaired.

1523
01:17:38,815 --> 01:17:40,359
But if you wish to table it.

1524
01:17:40,359 --> 01:17:42,204
And for us to get more information,

1525
01:17:42,204 --> 01:17:44,350
the board can ask us to do that.

1526
01:17:44,350 --> 01:17:45,770
We'll do.

1527
01:17:45,770 --> 01:17:47,425
To be fair, you don't seem confident with it.

1528
01:17:47,425 --> 01:17:50,485
I feel like I'm kind of reading your confidence level.

1529
01:17:50,485 --> 01:17:54,445
It's not high until a project is done.

1530
01:17:54,445 --> 01:17:58,195
No one should ever be fully confident I

1531
01:17:58,195 --> 01:17:59,935
have all the information that I could

1532
01:17:59,935 --> 01:18:02,605
get that says that yes this means,

1533
01:18:02,605 --> 01:18:05,605
however Director Menten brought up

1534
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,465
some concerns about the difference

1535
01:18:07,465 --> 01:18:10,735
in the trough sizes and things of that nature

1536
01:18:10,735 --> 01:18:12,955
that I can't answer right now.

1537
01:18:12,955 --> 01:18:16,705
And i don't like not having the answer for the board

1538
01:18:16,705 --> 01:18:17,995
before you vote on something.

1539
01:18:17,995 --> 01:18:21,535
So if you wish to table it, I we can bring it back

1540
01:18:21,535 --> 01:18:22,525
at the next meeting.

1541
01:18:22,525 --> 01:18:24,595
Let's table it to the next regularly scheduled

1542
01:18:24,595 --> 01:18:29,995
meeting Second, call the roll on that item Directors.

1543
01:18:35,335 --> 01:18:37,105
Martin Yes.

1544
01:18:37,105 --> 01:18:38,995
Rigo yes.

1545
01:18:38,995 --> 01:18:41,310
Kip Yes George Savage Yes.

1546
01:18:41,310 --> 01:18:41,935
Christina gets.

1547
01:18:41,935 --> 01:18:42,775
Evans Yes.

1548
01:18:42,775 --> 01:18:45,655
Motion passes five in favor and zero opposed.

1549
01:18:45,655 --> 01:18:50,275
Was there any other items to be discussed by the board

1550
01:18:50,275 --> 01:18:55,675
If not we need a vote on the items

1551
01:18:58,918 --> 01:19:01,407
that, with the exception of, I think

1552
01:19:01,407 --> 01:19:03,846
the was pulled down a and E?

1553
01:19:03,846 --> 01:19:06,762
Yeah, I'll make a motion to approve the agenda the second.

1554
01:19:06,762 --> 01:19:07,262
Okay.

1555
01:19:07,262 --> 01:19:07,945
Thank you.

1556
01:19:07,945 --> 01:19:09,338
You.

1557
01:19:09,338 --> 01:19:11,500
If there are any if there are no further

1558
01:19:11,500 --> 01:19:14,500
comments from the board Madam Kirk Calderon, directors.

1559
01:19:14,500 --> 01:19:14,545
Rigo.

1560
01:19:14,545 --> 01:19:15,115
Yes.

1561
01:19:15,115 --> 01:19:16,550
Camp yes.

1562
01:19:16,550 --> 01:19:16,555
George.

1563
01:19:16,555 --> 01:19:16,976
Yes.

1564
01:19:16,976 --> 01:19:17,455
Yes.

1565
01:19:17,455 --> 01:19:17,955
Christina.

1566
01:19:17,955 --> 01:19:18,745
Kate Service.

1567
01:19:18,745 --> 01:19:19,885
Yes Martin.

1568
01:19:19,885 --> 01:19:20,395
Yes.

1569
01:19:20,395 --> 01:19:23,545
Motion passes five and five zero, all opposed to.

1570
01:19:23,545 --> 01:19:25,945
Thank you very much Just time.

1571
01:19:25,945 --> 01:19:30,145
We will go to the official form.

1572
01:19:30,715 --> 01:19:36,359
Just only one item for me The eFM is mission

1573
01:19:36,359 --> 01:19:40,585
is really having a major impact on Fort labor

1574
01:19:40,585 --> 01:19:45,205
and we're seeing the residuals of that just recently had

1575
01:19:45,205 --> 01:19:47,725
conversations with those with the Air Force

1576
01:19:47,725 --> 01:19:52,159
that's responsible for the future of the Air Force

1577
01:19:52,159 --> 01:19:58,225
and from the Colonel that he has one ace airbase out there

1578
01:19:58,225 --> 01:20:01,705
discussions are on what the future of everything

1579
01:20:01,705 --> 01:20:05,515
will look like as these missions come forward.

1580
01:20:05,515 --> 01:20:11,500
Certainly, I think they will be here for at least 25 years.

1581
01:20:11,500 --> 01:20:13,345
But he knew tasks around building

1582
01:20:13,345 --> 01:20:17,185
after base to accommodate future growth and development

1583
01:20:17,185 --> 01:20:22,105
is very, very good And I think the work

1584
01:20:22,105 --> 01:20:24,325
is being done actors is maybe not

1585
01:20:24,325 --> 01:20:27,865
being recorded in construction in the amount of construction

1586
01:20:27,865 --> 01:20:31,345
that is being gotten done around here because of the military.

1587
01:20:31,345 --> 01:20:35,500
But it's a great deal of work taking place out in editing

1588
01:20:35,500 --> 01:20:38,750
and is having a big, big impact on our community

1589
01:20:38,750 --> 01:20:39,625
With that, we're low.

1590
01:20:39,625 --> 01:20:42,505
To director Rigo, thank you, Mayor.

1591
01:20:42,505 --> 01:20:44,950
I have three different things.

1592
01:20:44,950 --> 01:20:46,121
First, thank you, as always.

1593
01:20:46,121 --> 01:20:48,204
To Patty Payne in the Congregational Care Ministry

1594
01:20:48,204 --> 01:20:50,935
team for the prayer cards that were sent our way

1595
01:20:50,935 --> 01:20:52,393
the verse that we received tonight,

1596
01:20:52,393 --> 01:20:53,616
or at least on the card.

1597
01:20:53,616 --> 01:20:55,555
I have is Matthew 1128.

1598
01:20:55,555 --> 01:20:58,155
Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened

1599
01:20:58,155 --> 01:21:01,750
and I will give you rest May god give you

1600
01:21:01,750 --> 01:21:03,295
discernment inspiration that guides you each day,

1601
01:21:03,295 --> 01:21:05,605
and may He keep shining his light of knowledge strength

1602
01:21:05,605 --> 01:21:08,245
and perseverance upon you We keep you in our prayers.

1603
01:21:08,245 --> 01:21:11,155
Thank you to that very special ministry

1604
01:21:11,155 --> 01:21:13,765
at First United Methodist Church Mr. Mayor,

1605
01:21:13,765 --> 01:21:15,415
happy belated birthday to you.

1606
01:21:15,415 --> 01:21:17,455
I understand it was a round number that I

1607
01:21:17,455 --> 01:21:21,550
won't say that a good one.

1608
01:21:21,205 --> 01:21:24,511
And then i had a question for Director Menten

1609
01:21:24,511 --> 01:21:28,617
and just wanted to see to my colleague,

1610
01:21:28,617 --> 01:21:31,750
based on some conversations and things that have bubbled up

1611
01:21:31,750 --> 01:21:33,325
over the last many weeks and months

1612
01:21:33,325 --> 01:21:36,865
If you would be interested in partnering with me to convene

1613
01:21:36,865 --> 01:21:39,385
and co-chair a public working group or task

1614
01:21:39,385 --> 01:21:42,205
force on the issue of homelessness and was,

1615
01:21:42,205 --> 01:21:44,155
I thought a potential way to approach

1616
01:21:44,155 --> 01:21:46,195
it would be to spend the month of September

1617
01:21:46,195 --> 01:21:48,625
putting the group together, an approach could

1618
01:21:48,625 --> 01:21:50,605
be to have two public meetings in October

1619
01:21:50,605 --> 01:21:52,465
and two public meetings in November,

1620
01:21:52,465 --> 01:21:53,995
with the goal of bringing forward

1621
01:21:53,995 --> 01:21:57,745
some legislation for the board to consider in December.

1622
01:21:57,745 --> 01:21:59,672
So don't have to answer right now.

1623
01:21:59,672 --> 01:22:01,255
I'm not trying to put you on the spot,

1624
01:22:01,255 --> 01:22:02,880
just trying to be transparent about it.

1625
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,405
You've expressed an interest.

1626
01:22:04,405 --> 01:22:05,781
I think it's something we're both passionate and interested

1627
01:22:05,781 --> 01:22:06,118
in.

1628
01:22:06,118 --> 01:22:07,973
And so I would like for you to consider that.

1629
01:22:07,973 --> 01:22:08,310
Okay.

1630
01:22:08,310 --> 01:22:08,815
Thank you.

1631
01:22:08,815 --> 01:22:09,315
You.

1632
01:22:09,315 --> 01:22:10,563
Thank you very much.

1633
01:22:10,563 --> 01:22:11,695
I direct again.

1634
01:22:11,695 --> 01:22:12,595
Thank you, Mayor.

1635
01:22:12,595 --> 01:22:14,815
I had the privilege the other day

1636
01:22:14,815 --> 01:22:18,565
with the fortunate police force to do it right along

1637
01:22:18,565 --> 01:22:19,555
with two officers.

1638
01:22:19,555 --> 01:22:23,422
One in the morning was Officer Louis patrolling more

1639
01:22:23,422 --> 01:22:24,505
of the north side of town.

1640
01:22:24,505 --> 01:22:26,695
And then with officers, officers, police.

1641
01:22:26,695 --> 01:22:29,875
In the afternoon and working alongside just seeing what

1642
01:22:29,875 --> 01:22:32,515
he does in his daily afternoon routine.

1643
01:22:32,515 --> 01:22:35,245
And One of the things that I think was interesting

1644
01:22:35,245 --> 01:22:37,555
was our conversation around homelessness

1645
01:22:37,555 --> 01:22:40,375
and talking about it with him and just

1646
01:22:40,375 --> 01:22:44,155
standing beside him as we talked to people who are unhoused.

1647
01:22:44,155 --> 01:22:49,315
And I am definitely sympathetic to the idea of a homeless task

1648
01:22:49,315 --> 01:22:51,535
force bringing forward legislation

1649
01:22:51,535 --> 01:22:54,775
listening to our providers, working with our providers,

1650
01:22:54,775 --> 01:22:58,785
and even thinking where we can really put action to this.

1651
01:22:58,785 --> 01:23:01,195
And I, I do think we're going to have to think

1652
01:23:01,195 --> 01:23:02,425
about that in a budget.

1653
01:23:02,425 --> 01:23:05,125
Terry standpoint, whatever that looks like.

1654
01:23:05,125 --> 01:23:07,825
But, you know, I'd I'd be curious to see what you

1655
01:23:07,825 --> 01:23:09,835
guys find out or come forth.

1656
01:23:09,835 --> 01:23:14,125
Happy to even some sort of subcommittee way

1657
01:23:14,125 --> 01:23:16,826
be involved in that or whatever way I'm invited to.

1658
01:23:16,826 --> 01:23:21,386
But anyways I appreciate the efforts of our police force.

1659
01:23:21,386 --> 01:23:23,485
I was just elise was working, you know,

1660
01:23:23,485 --> 01:23:26,545
getting to know people's stories He would ask where they were

1661
01:23:26,545 --> 01:23:29,515
from He would talk to them about what they're trying

1662
01:23:29,515 --> 01:23:33,715
and he would convey to them what was the legal if there was

1663
01:23:33,715 --> 01:23:36,415
something that they were doing, if their own private property

1664
01:23:36,415 --> 01:23:39,850
or where he could tell them where they could go

1665
01:23:39,850 --> 01:23:42,145
and, you know I've heard Chief Baker say

1666
01:23:42,145 --> 01:23:45,175
that downtown is one of the most police forces of the city.

1667
01:23:45,175 --> 01:23:45,787
I would agree.

1668
01:23:45,787 --> 01:23:47,245
After riding with officers, police.

1669
01:23:47,245 --> 01:23:51,445
I mean, he and his team did an exception tional job

1670
01:23:51,445 --> 01:23:55,371
of moving around downtown, speaking to people,

1671
01:23:55,371 --> 01:23:57,967
talking to people and listening to whatever calls.

1672
01:23:57,967 --> 01:23:58,555
They had.

1673
01:23:58,555 --> 01:24:02,500
So I really appreciate them ahead of the study session,

1674
01:24:02,500 --> 01:24:06,145
even of us looking at their pay structure for first responders.

1675
01:24:06,145 --> 01:24:08,110
I've been able to do that and be alongside

1676
01:24:08,110 --> 01:24:10,345
of right along with the fire department

1677
01:24:10,345 --> 01:24:13,750
Both have been very eye opening for me and experiences

1678
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:14,767
and I'm very appreciative our staff.

1679
01:24:14,767 --> 01:24:15,475
Thank you, Mayor.

1680
01:24:15,475 --> 01:24:18,865
Thank Director George, Senator Jeff I have to I need

1681
01:24:18,865 --> 01:24:21,985
to make a motion to I want to put on a slow session

1682
01:24:21,985 --> 01:24:24,362
to discuss the Chevy Golf course,

1683
01:24:24,362 --> 01:24:29,785
recently, there was a bid made to buy the golf course, which

1684
01:24:29,785 --> 01:24:30,961
was denied by the FCA.

1685
01:24:30,961 --> 01:24:33,836
I, I want to sit down and talk about our options.

1686
01:24:33,836 --> 01:24:35,245
Is, is that official?

1687
01:24:35,245 --> 01:24:38,365
Did they deny it or did they just

1688
01:24:38,365 --> 01:24:40,195
they made the offer they rejected

1689
01:24:40,195 --> 01:24:44,275
the counteroffer with an outrageous price Hmm

1690
01:24:44,275 --> 01:24:45,295
It's what I want.

1691
01:24:45,295 --> 01:24:46,345
I want to discuss this.

1692
01:24:46,345 --> 01:24:52,945
We need to get a game plan here with this Yeah.

1693
01:24:54,255 --> 01:24:58,555
And then this is what I need a second on that.

1694
01:24:58,555 --> 01:25:00,873
I have a second.

1695
01:25:00,873 --> 01:25:03,268
I'm also going it OK.

1696
01:25:03,268 --> 01:25:05,695
And the last thing, Jeff, on the Highway 255

1697
01:25:05,695 --> 01:25:08,162
project that was or not correct a widened

1698
01:25:08,162 --> 01:25:10,980
and widening on the Yes.

1699
01:25:10,980 --> 01:25:10,598
OK.

1700
01:25:10,598 --> 01:25:12,805
And we participated the city participated in that.

1701
01:25:12,805 --> 01:25:16,495
We did And the medical college participated in that.

1702
01:25:16,495 --> 01:25:18,381
Yes And they have zero.

1703
01:25:18,381 --> 01:25:22,375
I suppose, to participate but they have not paid their share.

1704
01:25:22,375 --> 01:25:27,325
Do you know why Well, I believe for the I I do not

1705
01:25:27,325 --> 01:25:29,485
know the details of what how their involvement was

1706
01:25:29,485 --> 01:25:30,925
in the original part of the project, which

1707
01:25:30,925 --> 01:25:31,885
we did participate in.

1708
01:25:31,885 --> 01:25:34,885
There was an additional consideration

1709
01:25:35,995 --> 01:25:38,464
on the back end the project to restart the project.

1710
01:25:38,464 --> 01:25:41,965
So after Covid, when prices were increased

1711
01:25:41,965 --> 01:25:43,920
and those sorts of things.

1712
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,217
And that's something that still is being worked out

1713
01:25:45,217 --> 01:25:47,263
in terms of what the final can.

1714
01:25:47,263 --> 01:25:52,285
Well, my understanding is there are $1 million over $1 million

1715
01:25:52,285 --> 01:25:55,963
for their part in this widening I don't I

1716
01:25:55,963 --> 01:25:57,838
don't know if that number is being cared for.

1717
01:25:57,838 --> 01:26:00,171
I can try to confirm that or what the status of that is.

1718
01:26:00,171 --> 01:26:02,215
But I do not know.

1719
01:26:02,215 --> 01:26:03,768
So what's going to be in jeopardy

1720
01:26:03,768 --> 01:26:05,185
if the c.R. says we're not paying,

1721
01:26:05,185 --> 01:26:06,985
what is our dog going to do?

1722
01:26:06,985 --> 01:26:08,455
The project is finished.

1723
01:26:08,455 --> 01:26:09,232
I no, I do not.

1724
01:26:09,232 --> 01:26:11,650
But if you don't get paid, what do you have?

1725
01:26:11,650 --> 01:26:13,135
It depends on what the contracts say.

1726
01:26:13,135 --> 01:26:16,216
And i would you look into it and say, Sure.

1727
01:26:16,216 --> 01:26:17,110
Thank you.

1728
01:26:17,110 --> 01:26:18,896
OK, great, Christine.

1729
01:26:18,896 --> 01:26:22,105
Except jeff, I had asked you about that a couple weeks ago,

1730
01:26:22,105 --> 01:26:26,905
about the money owed to ador it Yes

1731
01:26:27,505 --> 01:26:32,245
And that context, in terms of this particular this particular

1732
01:26:32,245 --> 01:26:36,205
project, I do not know the answer to that.

1733
01:26:36,205 --> 01:26:38,605
You know, it's just incredibly frustrating.

1734
01:26:38,605 --> 01:26:41,605
We are the beneficiaries of the trust, which

1735
01:26:41,605 --> 01:26:44,845
means there should be some benefit to us

1736
01:26:44,845 --> 01:26:48,250
and they won't come before us to speak with us.

1737
01:26:48,250 --> 01:26:51,185
You know the best we can get is they want to go to lunch,

1738
01:26:51,185 --> 01:26:55,870
surprise you with their attorney is what I hear they're doing.

1739
01:26:55,870 --> 01:26:59,785
And you know, it's they're running that place like a mafia

1740
01:26:59,785 --> 01:27:01,855
organization, like a bunch of thugs that

1741
01:27:01,855 --> 01:27:03,235
are trying to intimidate us.

1742
01:27:03,235 --> 01:27:05,833
The beneficiaries, every beneficiary every

1743
01:27:05,833 --> 01:27:07,616
wants out of this.

1744
01:27:07,616 --> 01:27:10,585
Trust me, Subash in County Greenwood, Barling, us,

1745
01:27:10,585 --> 01:27:14,515
we all you know, none of us are seeing the benefit from it.

1746
01:27:14,515 --> 01:27:17,245
And they won't come to speak with us

1747
01:27:17,245 --> 01:27:18,805
They're not selling land.

1748
01:27:18,805 --> 01:27:19,555
The realtors.

1749
01:27:19,555 --> 01:27:22,470
There's no list So if you're a realtor

1750
01:27:22,470 --> 01:27:23,755
and you want to show some land out there,

1751
01:27:23,755 --> 01:27:25,405
there's no list of what's for sale.

1752
01:27:25,405 --> 01:27:29,665
There's no prices as he is not he's not a broker.

1753
01:27:29,665 --> 01:27:33,633
He's not legally obligated to present offers to his board.

1754
01:27:33,633 --> 01:27:35,425
I mean, I've never seen anything like this.

1755
01:27:35,425 --> 01:27:37,105
This is corruption in the open.

1756
01:27:37,105 --> 01:27:39,355
We've got to move on this and get something

1757
01:27:39,355 --> 01:27:41,815
done because as long as I've been on this board,

1758
01:27:41,815 --> 01:27:44,845
they've been pulling our chain for years.

1759
01:27:44,845 --> 01:27:46,614
I mean, it's time for it to be done.

1760
01:27:46,614 --> 01:27:47,822
They're running out of money.

1761
01:27:47,822 --> 01:27:49,645
We need to wrap this trust up.

1762
01:27:49,645 --> 01:27:52,472
When I was running, they had, what, 6 or $7 million

1763
01:27:52,472 --> 01:27:53,349
in the bank.

1764
01:27:53,349 --> 01:27:56,425
Now they have a few thousand and they're just dragging it out

1765
01:27:56,425 --> 01:28:01,675
as long as they can till the bank runs dry Okay.

1766
01:28:01,675 --> 01:28:04,465
Now we definitely need a study session to discuss this.

1767
01:28:04,465 --> 01:28:05,665
Thank you.

1768
01:28:05,665 --> 01:28:06,595
Thank you.

1769
01:28:06,595 --> 01:28:09,868
Director Neil Martin Nothing for me Mayor.

1770
01:28:09,868 --> 01:28:10,368
OK.

1771
01:28:10,368 --> 01:28:11,230
Thank you, Mayor.

1772
01:28:11,230 --> 01:28:12,783
I just want to say, to the extent

1773
01:28:12,783 --> 01:28:17,455
that i know there's not records nor minutes necessarily

1774
01:28:17,455 --> 01:28:21,835
kept from the director is forum portion the meetings.

1775
01:28:21,835 --> 01:28:24,715
But to the extent that there are times

1776
01:28:24,715 --> 01:28:29,215
that people think when someone is silent that they agree

1777
01:28:29,215 --> 01:28:32,305
with what is said or that that is a speech that

1778
01:28:32,305 --> 01:28:37,705
is made for the whole I think it's not

1779
01:28:38,350 --> 01:28:41,425
conducive to finding a solution and in any way

1780
01:28:41,425 --> 01:28:45,805
to call an entity a mafia entity or corrupt

1781
01:28:45,805 --> 01:28:49,285
or try to suggest that there's been no benefit to our community

1782
01:28:49,285 --> 01:28:52,294
or to the river valley from the Fcra

1783
01:28:52,294 --> 01:28:55,175
and my purpose is not to have an argument between two directors

1784
01:28:55,175 --> 01:28:55,675
tonight.

1785
01:28:55,675 --> 01:28:57,745
My purpose is to point out that that's not

1786
01:28:57,745 --> 01:29:03,205
a belief that is shared by every member of this board.

1787
01:29:03,205 --> 01:29:04,634
Thank you, Director Go.

1788
01:29:04,634 --> 01:29:06,573
I think we'll make sure and take note of that.

1789
01:29:06,573 --> 01:29:08,573
Thank you Mr..

1790
01:29:08,995 --> 01:29:11,245
Mr. Being that you record from my only comment

1791
01:29:11,245 --> 01:29:13,675
is that the city offices will be closed

1792
01:29:13,675 --> 01:29:17,480
on Monday, September seventh and observance of Labor Day Okay.

1793
01:29:17,480 --> 01:29:17,881
Thank you very much.

1794
01:29:17,881 --> 01:29:18,464
Appreciate it.

1795
01:29:18,464 --> 01:29:23,125
Just and we're going to go into an executive session

1796
01:29:23,125 --> 01:29:26,725
and specifically discuss the cybersecurity event.

1797
01:29:30,603 --> 01:29:33,603
Go ahead and executive recommendation