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Now please,
will you stand for the pledge?

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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, [snorts] with

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liberty and justice for all.

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» Okay, Missy, you want to do roll call?
Tanya?

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» Here.
>> Ryan?

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» Here.
>> Libby?

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Brits?
John?

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» Here.
>> And we have a quorum.

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» I don't know if you picked up Libby, I
think she's online.

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» Oh, Libby, are you here, Libby?

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» You can't hear.
>> Thank you, Libby.

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» Are you you're muted, dear.

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» Ah, there we go. Now I'm here.
>> Okay.

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All right. Um, we're going to make a
change on the agenda to to move uh

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uh new business H up to A in new
business. So we'll look for a motion to

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approve those changes.
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move
new business H up to new business A.

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» I'll second.
>> All in favor?

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I.

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And looking for a motion to approve
meeting minutes.

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» Make a motion to approve the minutes
from August 3rd, 2026.

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» I'll second.
>> All in favor?

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» I.

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» And
You go ahead.

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The executive session.
>> Yeah, the we had an executive session

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and only what was discussed
Only only what was posted was discussed.

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» Okay.

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Okay.
First up, we have old business, which is

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um
the council to consider the second

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reading of ordinance 2026 8A
establishing the residential rental

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registration.
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» Do you want me to start off?
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» So, as we've been discussing for quite
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first reading, you have before you um
both a clean copy for signature and a

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redline copy showing um
the changes that have been made

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in the signature copy from the
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There was a mistake at the last one that
some of the changes that I was

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explaining to the council
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which were changes that we arrived at
with uh working with the attorney for

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the Indiana Apartment Association.
That copy didn't get printed for you, so

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those changes are in there now. All all
of the those pieces. So, we discussed a

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lot of those changes. A lot of it was
clarification just to make sure that it

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was clear with what's allowed under the
law not only in how

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um multifamily rental units are treated,
also making adjustments to if you have

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you know, a a multifamily or rental unit

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that has a an LLC with multiple owners
listing one owner, still having to list

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the, you know, a human being and an
actual address, but

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making it more workable uh for those
type of situations, also clarifying

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difference between registration and
permit um

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and
the changes that we made as discussed in

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the public meeting with the interested
parties about providing a grace period

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or a cure period. That was in the last
months and this as well. 30-day grace

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period if um the inspector comes out and
finds something

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issues a notice that the property owner
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into compliance before
a violation with any sort of penalty

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would attach. Um and then one other item
to just draw your attention to that we

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will need to if you choose to move
forward and adopt this tonight on the

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third page of the signature copy under
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.04 registration required
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when we had drafted this um it was you
know all rental you know all existing

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rental units shall be registered with
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November 1st, 2026. We're beyond August
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perhaps change that. My suggestion would
be if you move forward and adopt it

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tonight, September 1st and then December
31st, you know, get it all done before

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the end of the year or
however you'd like to discuss, but that

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is one uh change that we would need to
add to this.

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Similarly, if you wanted to in 157.06
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waived until November 1st, 2026. If you
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whatever that second date um that you
picked in

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15704 to to make that consistent, you
could do that as well or you could leave

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it at
the registration fee is waived until

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November 1st.

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» So, if we approve this, will we sign
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» Uh yes.
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» [clears throat]
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timeline then to be able to get the
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drawn up?
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31st? You want to go till the end of the
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» Would September 1st give you enough time
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documentation?
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» So, in 157.04, the proposal would be to
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registration between September 1st and
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we had a date of July 1, 2026.
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I I think we just move that to
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ordinance just to get rid of that date.
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that we could do the same thing. Instead
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as of adoption of the ordinance.

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» Any other questions for Alex?

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Do we have any other public questions or
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Monett ball?

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» In my mind at least, this is a new
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with a
mark up.

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Or has this mark up been around a while?
It's new.

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A recent
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» Yes.
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» And how long have you guys had
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» They've seen the
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» Well, that's what the public meeting is
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You're you're right.
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You've already told me more than I than
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» Well, everything that I've mentioned
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last meeting as well.
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» So all of these changes were discussed
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them by the Indiana Apartment
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some from the public meeting that you
participated in before the first

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reading.
>> Is is there an unmarked iteration of

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this
available right now?

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» You have it in your email box. I emailed
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» through it. I had didn't have time to
digest it at all, but what I have is

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this minus the marking.
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we're talking about right now in the
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» what I picked up here.
>> Yeah. Correct.

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» Okay.
>> That's what they're all like.

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» What I got in my email at 4:00 was
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clean version.
>> There were two documents.

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» Mhm.
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» There's a clean version.
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opened the finished one then.
I didn't have time to

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» And what and what you'll see I'll tell
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in your email, instead of
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about, I had actually inserted blanks.
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» Well, what I would ask for is is that we
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this.
Because this is like I said, you were

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kind enough to get one to me this
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wasn't able to look more than just a
look at it.

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And I don't know anybody else here that
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of time.
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» To say to say what
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feelings are about it.
Then that that almost makes this a

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performance vote.
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last meeting, I sent out another redline
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» And it's basically everything we
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» Yeah, there's there's no major
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were at.
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» Not major.
>> Changing the time.

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» make a difference to that
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Alex sent me both,
and I just saw I just saw them one.

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He sent me both this afternoon.
I did not have a chance to even look at

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it. I wonder how many people were on a
thread with Alex this afternoon

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and had the benefit of looking at it.
That's all I'm suggesting is

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that we table this for now and try to
figure out what all the changes mean.

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» Well, the thread that I used was
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thread you created. So, that's how many
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» But at the point in time
and the timing, and I'm not the only

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one. I don't know I don't
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Everybody that was at that meeting is on
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» Have any of you made up your minds
whether you like it or not?

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» Yes.
>> You have?

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» Yes.

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» Well, then that makes the vote
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complete.
I don't

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I was hoping that you'd be open to
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probably I sent you all an email with
what my thoughts were and everything.

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Okay.
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I don't need to repeat them in fact you
and I people can

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» Well, and as you know, we don't
deliberate over email, but I told you

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that I as the lawyer disagreed with your
position, but that's what your time is.

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» And I did look up I did look at some of
them, Bob. I read them.

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But I I did read some of the references
that you made.

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» Yes.
>> And I didn't see anything that that

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contradicted what we said.
>> direct patient were probably erroneous.

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That's that's what I'm concerned about.
So, I'm going to go to the library and

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read the actual law
because there are there are good minds

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that
that say that uh some of the listings

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that I sent you today
may be erroneous. And if they are, I'm

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going to know.

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I mean
I don't like following somebody who's

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incorrect on major scale if you'll
notice

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what we saw. I just say I know what I'm
I'm open to having the AI I use to be

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completely incorrect.
>> So, you didn't read the things that you

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asked us to read. Is that what you're
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» No.
>> You you didn't

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the law all laws are copyrighted and

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they're not allowed to be printed and
photo because they got to use And so,

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excerpts have to be filtered when they
come through a third party, but they're

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not at the library to read the whole
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I haven't been there yet, so
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But if you guys have made up your minds,
that's where it is. I

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You know what I mean? But I I would like
to be told where I'm wrong.

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And if you look at the points with quite
a few of them, they were all mad. And I

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I want to I don't want to state that.
I want to know what the real thing is

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and uh
and go from there. Then I'll be your

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fan.
You know, or a fan of this.

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Okay?
Okay, thank you all.

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» Thanks, Bob.

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Anybody else?

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» Look down here. 60 years
I've had

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I've acquired a lot of property over the
years because I was in that line of

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work, construction.
And I'm going to tell you people

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something.
We have a I have a lot of people that

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rent off me
that are over 60 years old.

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They have lost their homes.
You all make good income, every one of

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you.
These people have lost their homes

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because of tax rate. You know, my tax is
doubled in the last 5 years.

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We take good care of our people. We
don't have any problems.

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We have helped people.
And you know what? When I lay my head on

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my pillow at night, I can live with
myself. Already this year alone

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I you know, I'm not in it to get rich. I
don't take anything out of this world

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with me.
Already we have roofed a lady's house

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because her husband died a few years ago
and he won't have his retirement. See,

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we don't live in this world down here.
We're up here where we've all got good

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jobs. And you forget there's little
people in this world.

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Another guy
that we helped this year, this is just

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this year.
Last 4 months.

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He was down on his luck. We let him live
in our apartment for 2 months

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and didn't charge him a dying or
anything. You know what happened?

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He got his self-confidence back. He now
has a nice job up here on Main Street,

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and he thanks us all the time.
So, that is the other side of the rental

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business. It's not all profit. And And
we're all You know, and I don't live

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high. I live in a simple little house,
and the rest of it I give away to help

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people. And that's where I'm coming
from, and you all And they good money,

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you live off of our tax money, a lot of
you. And that's where we're at.

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So,
that's what I got to say about this.

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It's a whole different story than what
you're trying to put on us now.

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» Okay.

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» We weren't here for the first meeting,
so we're not going to give everything.

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So, you'll have to pardon me if I do,
but

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Jeff Brown.
But, I would say

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one, I don't know the real benefit in
this. You guys have recent last week.

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But, we've been here for 125 years in
this town since we work great without

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this new building. This isn't a thing.
This isn't an inspection thing.

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Uh we've never had to pay $5 for all the
rentals.

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All of that, but as he just said,
it's all going to still back on him.

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If you find us for that property there,
still this building needs to be

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adjusted. It's going to be up beyond
$500. That person is not going to get

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raised if you know you'll be successful.
But, the rentals, the other rentals,

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everybody's going to
go up to adjust this situation.

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Like he said, most of us here have
decent incomes,

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but we do need to consider those of our
neighbors who are just barely getting

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by.
So, I don't know what you need to do to

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kind of adjust this thing. I guess you
got to either railroad out of town or

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get rid of it or something like that or
whatever.

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But, just think twice before you jump
because, like he said, we try to be to

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the renters, try to make a decent income
ourselves, but you also know there's a

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lot of people that are really
struggling. And

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I I think you just have to think about
it. It's going to just fall back on the

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renters.
It always does, unfortunately, poor poor

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folks.
And and that's not good. So, thanks

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twice for your job. It's nice to be able
to have a hand in things. Sometimes

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sometimes it's not good for people to
have a hand in having a situation. We've

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gone I see 1865 there. We're at this
point we say the four blocks this has

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been going pretty good out here. It's
like a good nice town to me. You sure

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you want to jump off this bridge?
Anyhow, that's all I have to say.

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» I want to say thank you to both of you
for taking care of people. I mean,

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that's a lot of people don't do that.
So, that's that's a good thing. And

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we're not trying to put an undue burden
on property owners. And and it doesn't

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cost you a dime to register the
properties if you do them before the end

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of the year. And we're going to ask you
to do it one time. The only time there's

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ever going to be a problem is if you
don't take care of your property. And we

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all know that you guys do. So, we're not
here to attack you for that. We're

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trying to keep away the ones that don't.
This is our way of trying to and it's a

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problem. I know that a lot of you might
not know that, but it is a problem. And

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Jerry has often not been able to get a
hold of people. People are in bad

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situations because you can't get a hold
of a property owner.

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Yeah. Yeah, and he will and he will
continue to do that. And there's no

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reason for us to go in your properties
or do anything unless somebody has

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complained and obviously some people
complain about things that really just

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don't matter and they're not
significant, but he has to address them

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cuz that's part of his job. But he'll
contact you guys first like he always

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does. Our problem is is that we don't
have information to contact those

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people. There's so many of them that he
can't do that. Then he's knocking on the

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door with the tenants. Then it becomes a
whole different situation, you know,

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because we can't get a hold of a
property owner. But

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And and that really does exclude a lot
of our local people. So, but we can't

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just you can't exclude people. We have
to include everybody in this. But,

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you'll have the opportunity, like I
said, to register these things at no

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cost to you. There'll be no burden on
you. Nothing will really change for you,

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as long as you continue to take care of
your property. And And obviously, you

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guys do. So, nobody's trying to to
change that for you. So, I just want you

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to know that that's not our intention.

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Yeah.

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» Thank you, ma'am.

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» No, not only if you get rid of the
property. Only if you sell it. You see,

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same owner same owner state, you never
have to do it again. Yeah.

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Yeah.
Ma'am.

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Could please come up here, cuz they
can't hear you online if you don't come

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up here.
>> [laughter]

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» Sorry.

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» I don't know. I haven't spoken with any
landlord, property owners, or anybody

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who is objecting to a registration
program.

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You people will have a need that you
see. You're doing your job. We're doing

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our job.
I don't know of one. Haven't spoken with

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one. Maybe there is one. There's nothing
wrong at all with a registration and

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inspection program. Let's have one.
The problem is the permit.

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If you if you
morph the language, which appears to

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have happened, from uh
a registration, and now it becomes a

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permit, and I haven't read all the
markings on it, but if it becomes a

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permit, then it becomes control that I
don't believe is uh justified, and I

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don't believe it is legal
that you can take us and suspend us for

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one reason or another. Might not even be
our own.

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So, if you want to have if you want to
have a registration and inspection

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program, I'll head it up.

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But, not for me, though.

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Thank you.
>> Thanks, Bob.

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Anybody else want to speak on it? Jay,
come on up.

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» My name's Julius Howard Jr.
Um

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I'm the inspections. Say they come in
there, you know, obviously a lot of

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these rentals are old. They're old.
And there's stuff that's probably not up

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to code, but I mean, is that
grandfathered in?

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You know, you come in there and say,
"Okay, this has got a

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100 amp service, and it needs a 200 or
something." I mean, is that something

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when they come in there to inspect it,
they can just say, "Well, okay, you got

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to, you know, do a $10,000
upgrade on this, and a $5,000 upgrade."

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And And like Bob said, I mean,
I try to keep my rent cheap.

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And my tenants all stay. I mean, I've
had the same people for years. They

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don't They're not leaving. I keep it
cheap, you know, I mean, all right,

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yeah, you got to put new carpet in,
paint, and spend $5,000, and then you

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might get somebody that ain't worth a
crap. Then, you know, they move in, and

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you got to throw them out a month later.
I mean, is that something that's going

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to be? Or when they come in for the
inspection, what is that going to

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» Jerry, you want to answer that? Come up
here and answer that for me, William.

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» If you don't understand, please gesture
[clears throat] you do.

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This has never been an issue, all right?
Now, if you have bad renter,

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you know, I've had rental properties in
the past. When I did,

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get a bad renter, tear the place up, you
probably had it. Everybody that has

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rental properties has.
Destroyed, like you brought up your

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furnace.
Somebody calls and says, "I don't have

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any heat." Children are dying, you know,
they come in and take a look at it.

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I'm not going to tell you whether
or not we're going to burn it.

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You can't hit a 60-year-old furnace and
have to burn

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it. That's just the way it goes. We
could agree.

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If you're asking me if I'm going to go
in there and look for problems, no.

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I'm going to address the problem I'm
talking about.

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» In most cases, he's going to address
that with you first before he ever goes

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out there, you know.

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Right.
>> Is that Is that between service

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» Yeah, yeah. I mean, I just thought, you
know, like I said, I mean, there's some

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a lot of older units and
I mean, I could cost somebody 50,000

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like that just snap your fingers and you
can't absorb that. I mean, like you say,

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he said about the taxes. It's like
crazy.

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» It's like saying this is This isn't an
actual

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gas or taxation issue that we've taken.
That's why I'm working with you, though.

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» Yeah.
>> It's like times that

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some of these are owned by out-of-town
corporations.

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Give you a post office box out in Texas
and they're and they'll phone numbers. I

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have no way to contact them.
I've spent hours and hours talking with

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them. It's like that.
It's like cases like that.

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I mean, I could name all these serial
number appeals.

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You know, and so you guys I've talked
to, you I haven't talked to. I don't

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view problems with them.
>> Okay.

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That would Thank you.
>> I I have respect for you guys that that

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are reasonable with your rent because we
you know, we've always been known for

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that here in town. That's always been
something that we've

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It is. I know.

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» It's crazy when I pay taxes. It's
>> I know. Yeah.

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» Well, the two-car garage one I mean,
it's like

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» Yeah. you know, that's two months of my

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rent has gone and then and then
insurance is going up, you know, and

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then I'm I'm eating all this.
>> Right.

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» They said, "Grant."
And they they think, you know, well,

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we'll go somewhere else. I mean, usually
I would say, "Hey, take a couple months

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to think about it." And then they call
around and they're like, "You know,

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» And you That was another thing I just
Yeah.

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» Right. So, probably it's a
>> Yeah.

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I I understand.
>> Thank you.

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» Yeah.
Yeah, the property tax thing is

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something everybody talks about. So, and
you know you can appeal those, too.

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I did go through that this year myself.
So, I'm telling you, if if you feel like

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you're unjustly charged, you should
appeal them, you know?

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I know it takes time, but it might be
worth it.

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» I'm Mary Lou Garrison, and I just like
to say this.

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John left me with these apartments. I
would have much rather he left me with a

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bunch of money.
>> [laughter]

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» It is not easy being a landlord. It is
>> No, it's not.

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» It is difficult.
>> It is.

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» I mean, you you come up a
all kinds of situations. Sometimes, like

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Bob said, you let somebody live in your
apartment for two or three months cuz

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they don't have the money and they don't
have a job. I mean, it's I don't think

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anybody's getting rich off of having
apartments. At least I'm not. But I just

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wish that you would take into
consideration as as we implement these

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things that you would take into
consideration. We're not trying to be

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difficult. We're just trying to make it
through, you know? Just I'm just trying

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to make it through, and I'm going to
leave the apartments to my girls, and

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hopefully they will sell them. Now,
say, "Why don't you sell them yourself?"

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There's so many ands, ifs, and buts, and
so much trouble. I I can't afford to

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sell them. I can't afford to sell them
because I live in one of them,

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and and and different things. I can't
afford to sell them. I can't afford to

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do anything else than I'm doing. But I
do appreciate those that have taken time

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and have called me back this week. I
appreciate it very much.

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I wish we could all get along. I wish we
could all care about each other. I wish

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we could all be a community and and
that's what we really need to be.

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We don't have that a lot of times and
that's very sad.

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» Thanks, Marilyn.
Anybody else?

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Okay.

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All right.
So, anybody else have anything they want

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to add or
>> [sighs]

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» we going to
questions?

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If not, we're looking for a motion.

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» I'll make a motion to approve second
reading of ordinance 2026-8A

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establishing the rental registration.
>> I'll second.

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» All in favor?
>> Aye.

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» Aye.

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Any opposed?
>> No.

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» No. I didn't hear Fritz, so yeah.
Okay.

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Motion carries.

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And I need to sign this one here. We
need to do this, right?

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Thanks again for your contribution and
your opinion. Appreciate it.

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» Just one point of clarification that is
with the changes we discussed.

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» With changes, yes.
Yeah.

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» Okay. I'll clean that up so that we're
going to have a complete

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» Yeah. So, that'll be September 1st
through December 31st to registration

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for free.
And then we're they're working on the

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application part of it, so we'll get it
out to you just as soon as as soon as we

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get it done.

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Okay.

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But next we have um
the 2027 proposed budget by Beth Marsh.

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This is under new business.

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Okay, you should have the budget before
you.

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So as as we always do, I've met with all
the department heads and gone over

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everything. Then we had a meeting
earlier this month with the there was a

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public meeting um just to sort of go
over everything again and then made some

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additional changes after that. So I'm
just going to go over some of the final

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things that we made.
Um

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so based on the salaries, we've
increased everyone's salary in the

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budget for 3%. Um the longevity pay is
changed as usual. We did have a couple

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price um adjustments based on their
positions um that are pre-proposed ones

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for the park manager and the others for
the town manager.

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Um on both of those, obviously none of
these these are all allowable in the

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budget. It's then obviously got to be
approved in the salary resolution or

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salary ordinance that you have. So
those are you know, it's just but it's

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been put and allowed in the budget. Um
then we've added a full-time officer

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under the um general fund. Um we've also
added a few positions because we're

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trying to
get everything in order

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in case the day comes that Joe wants to
retire.

430
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» Trying to phase me out.
>> Yeah, phase him out, you know.

431
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:25,160
Um we're adding a civil engineer and
then an assistant town manager. We've

432
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:30,120
added those positions. We've also added
a deputy planner, but in that we've also

433
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:34,520
eliminated the building inspector
assistant position and that's not being

434
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:38,640
rehired. And one of the reasons we're
adding that deputy planner is when I

435
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:42,960
looked at the fees that we've received,
they're up 450%

436
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:47,280
over last year. So I mean, it's
definitely justifiable as far as where

437
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:50,840
that's at. So, that's why we've added
that position.

438
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:55,880
Um
and then

439
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:59,600
the benefits we've added a 20% So, we've
not gotten to receive the information on

440
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,720
that yet.
Um as our far as our supplies, we've

441
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:08,920
done a 3%.
Um we did increase the police fuel to

442
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:15,640
reflect the higher gas prices and then
also for the additional officer. Um we

443
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:19,920
have added $10,000 for police vests. Um
we he's applied for a $10,000 grant,

444
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:24,440
which is also in that which will cover
that. If we don't receive that, we still

445
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:27,000
have the funds to accommodate that, but
hopefully we'll have a grant to cover

446
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:31,720
those.
Um and then we've um added 3% basically

447
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:37,160
for the rest of those.
For our other services, um again,

448
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:41,880
basically overall, it's 3%
um for most expenses related to that. Um

449
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:49,440
we did add a little additional monies
for some planned um IT cost um as far as

450
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:54,120
that. We've got um
some increases in the trash contract

451
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,880
based off of the contract. We've
increased that, but then the offset is

452
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,600
the revenue, which is so it offsets each
other.

453
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:05,600
Because we had such a liability
insurance went up last year so much, we

454
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:09,080
did include another 30% for that cuz we
don't know exactly where that's going to

455
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:12,480
come in yet. Um we're hoping it'll be
lower, but we just want to make sure we

456
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:17,840
accommodated that.
And then we also added $2,500 additional

457
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:22,600
for fireworks for next year.
Um and then our utilities, um which we

458
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:29,040
normally always do, is at 10%.
Um capital outlays for the township town

459
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:32,800
portion of it, we've added um
for the cloud-based computing um versus

460
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,720
on our server cuz we're moving that to
cloud-based this year.

461
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:41,680
And then the vehicles, we will don't
have any police vehicles in this budget.

462
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:46,320
Um we're hoping to do a geo bond and
then a lot of times we take some as the

463
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:49,920
continuing education. Um so we don't
have any in this year's budget um

464
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,560
for that.
Um local road and street, we're keeping

465
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,880
the same
um which we've not really changed. It's

466
00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:03,840
always at the 50,000. We just kept that
the same. Um MBH, um again we did the

467
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:08,120
same for the um personal services.
And then um there weren't really much

468
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:12,880
changes in the supplies other than the
3%. We had a little bit added for some

469
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:17,960
clothing and boots that's increased to
the current spending.

470
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:21,703
Um and then our other services
we have added monies for some

471
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,440
projects.
>> [clears throat]

472
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:29,840
» So the MBH funds that come in are split
part of it has to have 50% of it has to

473
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:33,600
be set aside for
capital projects and we've been letting

474
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:37,200
that build up. Well, this year we're
going to budget 350,000

475
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,720
um of that. So part of that money's
going to come out of there and we're

476
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,720
going to be using that restricted money.
So um

477
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:48,040
200,000 of that's going to be used for
that. So um which is for the repairs of

478
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:52,400
streets cuz it's for construction,
reconstruction, preservation. So we'll

479
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:57,560
be using that for paving projects.
Um and then we're going to increase

480
00:33:54,400 --> 00:34:01,320
signs in our capital outlays $10,000.
And then some of the other requests for

481
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:06,640
equipment and things from Brian we're
going to be doing in the geo bond.

482
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:11,639
And then under the park
we will be um

483
00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:16,120
increasing again fuel um for higher
prices for about 10%.

484
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:20,600
Um
we'll be adding um

485
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:25,720
trees. We're going to add trees. We're
adding a line for that for $20,000.

486
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:28,840
And um our pest control's been a little
bit higher, so we've increased that as

487
00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:34,320
um as well.
We have some equipment repairs we're

488
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:37,840
adding um for the dump truck for 22,000.
And again, our liability insurance.

489
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:43,360
Um
as far as capital outlays, we will be

490
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:48,200
doing um 75,000 for the
planned um restroom renovations. Um we

491
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:52,960
got some fence replacements. We're
adding $25,000 for trails.

492
00:34:51,240 --> 00:34:55,919
And then, you know, some things for the
buildings. We will also be doing some

493
00:34:54,919 --> 00:34:59,720
some of the things that are going to be
coming through this year, which we have

494
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,880
been as I've mentioned in the past, we
we've been trying to save her money for

495
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,800
that. So, we've got some build-up cash
in the park. So, we'll be doing

496
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,920
additional appropriation at the same
time we do the public hearing. So, it'll

497
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,640
be a public hearing and then a
resolution that you can adopt right

498
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,600
after that. So, I'm going to have that
exact amount. We'll have that at the

499
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:20,520
next meeting.
Um as far as um the rest of the money

500
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:25,560
that we need for the paving, we will be
taking out of the CCD, the capital

501
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,800
cumulative capital development. So, that
one's going to be higher than what we

502
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:33,680
normally do. We'll be adding um 100,000
there.

503
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:37,880
And overall, that's pretty much it. The
um circuit breakers, they did finally

504
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:41,280
come out and they they actually did
decrease a little bit. Um but they

505
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:45,680
finally just came out, so I got those
numbers. I'm still waiting for

506
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:49,640
miscellaneous revenues. They're supposed
to come out this week, so we'll see.

507
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:55,840
They were a little late on some of the
others, so hopefully we still have that.

508
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:59,960
Um overall, um the budget is up 20%, but
a lot of that is for capital is what the

509
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:03,320
majority of that's for.
Um but, you know, there's things that

510
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:09,840
the projects that we've been planning
and we're able to do those this year.

511
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,840
Does anyone have any questions?

512
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:15,800
» I do not.
>> So, we'll have the public hearing at the

513
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:19,480
second meeting in September, and then
the first meeting in October is when

514
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:23,440
we'll do the budget approval. If anyone
has any questions or anything before

515
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,680
then, just please reach out to Misty or
myself, and we'll be happy to answer

516
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,680
that.
>> Okay. Good. Thanks, Ben.

517
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:34,240
» Uh
yeah, Joe, didn't you say the uh with

518
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:38,520
the civil engineer that may change or
>> It Well, the title of it may change. I

519
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:43,400
think both of those positions she
mentioned that the title might be just a

520
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:47,800
little different, but the funding is
still the same.

521
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,400
» Okay, so the the their salaries, what's
on here is what it's going to be then?

522
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,720
» Right.
>> Okay.

523
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,120
» Yeah.
>> Okay.

524
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,800
Okay. So, that could change still then.
Okay, okay.

525
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,880
Okay. Yeah.

526
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:16,240
» Okay.
Thanks, Beth.

527
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,240
You don't have to stay here all night.

528
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:23,320
Okay, uh next step, uh we have a revised
um

529
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:28,360
the 2027
uh budget for the fire territory.

530
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:34,040
Um
the lit actually came in There's a 10.9%

531
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:37,360
increase county-wide lit. So, the
original proposed amount

532
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:41,440
um
the original proposed budget we had was

533
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:46,760
a deficit of 204,000.
But with the um improvements, we're in

534
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:50,480
an excess of 52,960.
So, the new budget goal

535
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:54,040
um
it's what's shown here on this.

536
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,680
700 7,564,739

537
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:06,400
would be the new budget for the 2027
fire uh Warren Township fire territory.

538
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,160
So,
um

539
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:12,960
we just need to make a motion to approve
this new revised budget

540
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,840
for the fire territory.

541
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,400
Unless you have questions about why it's
changing, but it's really for the

542
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,200
better, so
>> Yeah, what are what are they getting for

543
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:30,560
the
>> Um they'll be allocated their capital

544
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:35,720
expenses including a camera upgrade,
turnout gear, and a training building.

545
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:40,560
Uh they also we've also approved uh
three full-time positions for the

546
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,920
firefighters, too.
So, all that will be able to to happen

547
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,920
now.

548
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:56,960
I think
Correct. Yeah, it was 204,000

549
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,920
uh was the deficit.
And now we're

550
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,640
over at 15 52 960.
>> Even with the proposed changes, right?

551
00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:08,520
» Yes.
I think uh yeah, the the actual So, the

552
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:12,520
budget goal was seven seven million
564,739

553
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:16,360
and then the proposed budget from the
fire territory is 7,511,779.

554
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:24,920
I think Florrie's on there if she has I
don't know if she has anything to add to

555
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,920
that. I hope I got everything that

556
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,720
Uh
I think that's it.

557
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:40,160
So, we just need to
um approve that budget for them if

558
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,160
everybody's in favor of that.

559
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:49,200
» I'll make a motion to approve the
revised 2027 fire general fund budget.

560
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,640
» I'll second.
>> All in favor?

561
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,200
» Aye.
>> Aye.

562
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,200
» Aye.

563
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,400
» Okay.

564
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:10,800
Okay, next step we have the BOT
agreement for Landmark in Memorial Park

565
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,640
and this is Doug with Reynolds
Construction.

566
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,960
» Good evening. Doug Tishbane with
Reynolds Construction. Nice to see you

567
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:20,360
again.
I apologize I'm a couple weeks late in

568
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:25,160
being here. I was anticipating being
here the 1st of the month, but we ran

569
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:28,640
into a little concern about the ADA
compliance to the north side of the new

570
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,760
pedestrian bridge.
Got all that figured out and worked out,

571
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:36,280
so
um I think over the last couple of weeks

572
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:41,080
we've had a couple of improvements.
Memorial Park added to the project on

573
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:45,320
some restroom renovations. So, we worked
with Heath in order to come up with

574
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:49,920
those numbers. Um
Alex has given us a redline version of

575
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,720
the agreement, which we gave a couple of
weeks ago, and we've accepted all of

576
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:57,040
those.
We had to add the exhibits, which goes

577
00:40:54,640 --> 00:41:00,920
through the pricing and some of the
GMP reports, guaranteed maximum price

578
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:05,480
reports, and some other exhibits that'll
be filled in or at a later date, more

579
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:11,640
towards the end of the project. So,
really at at at this point in time

580
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:18,600
our original number on just Landmark, if
you remember, was a million 941 408.

581
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:22,960
And working with Heath on the Memorial
Park upgrades,

582
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:28,600
that was an additional 243, so we're
currently at 2.184 million.

583
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:32,040
And I think we're asking for approval of
the agreement tonight, so we can get to

584
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:36,720
work.
>> We want you to get to work.

585
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,720
» Absolutely.

586
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:45,160
» When do you expect to move in and be
ready to start?

587
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:49,160
» So, we've got a couple of
pre-construction meetings I need I know

588
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:52,280
we need to set up with Adam.
Uh we've got to get through the state

589
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,960
permitting processes, which we we've
already started.

590
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,000
Um
I'm hopeful

591
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,920
uh that we're going to have boots on the
ground probably within

592
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,640
Don't let me do it, but I'm going to say
30 days.

593
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,160
With a anticipated completion in March
of next year.

594
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,040
» You said March 1st of next year. Is that
what you said or

595
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,960
» March of next year.
>> Okay.

596
00:42:22,084 --> 00:42:26,360
» [laughter]
>> I think the document says on a tentative

597
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:29,920
schedule that it's scheduled for April
1st, so

598
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:33,000
as soon as we get through the
pre-construction meetings and the

599
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:39,320
permitting, I'll be able to give you a
schedule, so you'll see what the

600
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,320
actual deliverable is.

601
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,840
» Any questions?

602
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:49,240
» Nope.
Okay.

603
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:53,000
» Yeah.
Guess we'll look for a motion then to

604
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,000
approve.

605
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,840
» I'll make a motion to approve the BOT
agreement for Landmark and Memorial

606
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,760
Parks.
>> Second.

607
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:01,800
» All in favor?
>> Aye.

608
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,200
» Aye.
>> Aye.

609
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,280
» Just get going.
>> Thanks, sir.

610
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,000
» Thank you very much.
>> Yeah.

611
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,240
If you can get started earlier, that'd
even be great.

612
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:14,400
» That'll be good.
>> Thanks.

613
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:19,200
That, too. Not not not to put any
pressure on you or anything.

614
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:23,055
Yeah, no kidding. If we any of this
could be nice.

615
00:43:21,035 --> 00:43:23,055
» [clears throat]

616
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,120
» Okay.

617
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:54,200
Uh next we have the MOU water agreement
with McCordsville. Joe?

618
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:57,560
» Okay, uh this this is something that
we've been talking about with

619
00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:02,080
McCordsville for a while and brought it
up with the council several times um

620
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:06,360
over the year.
This is a an MOU between the town of

621
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:11,120
Fortville and the town of McCordsville
to service water

622
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:14,880
into the territory
that will eventually become McCordsville

623
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:19,120
or
should be McCordsville before the

624
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,480
service is ever provided. And just to
refresh your memory, we've got an MOU

625
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:27,720
with uh
McCordville that 400 will be our

626
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:33,120
boundary as far as annexation. So, we
will not annex beyond 400 and they won't

627
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:36,040
come this direction. Um a big part of
this MOU and I know part of their

628
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:39,080
concern is
we we for one, we just wanted to make

629
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:43,160
sure that
they were good with us

630
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:47,800
getting into that territory
and then giving us a territory that we

631
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:51,760
could plan to to make sure that we could
size the mains properly and make sure

632
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:57,320
that we'll be able to service the area
correctly. And then their part of the

633
00:44:54,040 --> 00:45:02,760
agreement was uh more of a concern that
we don't try to annex across that

634
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,360
original agreed upon 400 boundary
um just because we are servicing the

635
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:11,120
water to that area. So, that's pretty
much what this agreement spells out. And

636
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:14,520
if you look at the very last page,
there's a an exhibit there. It's got the

637
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,520
drawing.
400 West

638
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:24,800
is where the town of Fortville's limits
are. Um our sewer territory ends at 400

639
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:30,640
West. McCordsville comes up to uh 400
West on the west side of the road. Um

640
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:35,000
there's about a square mile, roughly,
that's kind of marked out there that

641
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:39,480
makes more sense for
Fortville to service them. Um

642
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,520
we stopped we didn't go any further
south because I think uh

643
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:47,720
there's some development that they're
proposing along 234 that will more than

644
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:50,960
likely have citizens in the area. Makes
more sense for citizens to serve them

645
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:55,880
than it would for us. So,
and they this was kind of a uh

646
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:59,720
you know, a a mutual agreed upon
territory that

647
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:04,520
worked for McCordsville, worked for us
that we could serve and it would allow

648
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:09,520
them to continue to grow because as of
right now citizens uh

649
00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:13,560
is not prepared to service part of this
territory.

650
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:15,920
And and we can
So.

651
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:21,640
And you have it. If you have any
questions, I'll do my best to answer.

652
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:25,640
» What will be responsible for
servicing any problems out there in

653
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:29,200
right-of-ways, and we'll have access to
all that, or

654
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:32,720
» Yeah, all the all the water mains will
be owned by the town of Fortville once

655
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,200
it's said and done. So, yeah, we'll take
care of all the maintenance, hydro

656
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,600
flushing, and
exercising the valves, and

657
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:42,200
just like we do the Hamilton County
area.

658
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:46,760
» So, the the big
benefit, I guess, that that we get is

659
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:50,360
the that utility money, that water money
and stuff coming in.

660
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:54,480
» Yeah, we get the asset of the the
additional plant,

661
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:58,440
and then the the revenue. And as you
know, the

662
00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:02,440
bigger your user base is, the easier it
is to try to keep the cost down for

663
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:06,640
everybody paying into it. Cuz the more
people we have in paying into the

664
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:11,040
system, it's it allows us to keep our
rates lower, and keeps it

665
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:16,120
In fact, let me go back to the water
um prior to our last rate increase,

666
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,400
and we had to do the water treatment
plant, which we're going to do a water

667
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:23,280
treatment plant anyway,
we hadn't raised our rates for over

668
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:27,960
what, 16 or 17 years.
And that was a lot of that was based on

669
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:32,560
extending our utilities out, and being
able to pick up more users. Was able to

670
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:35,280
keep our rates down for everybody here.
>> Yeah, hookup fees and all that good

671
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,680
stuff.
>> Mhm.

672
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:41,600
» Okay, cool.
>> Yeah, and and I think I brought this up

673
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:45,000
earlier, but uh there will be a time
that we're going to need uh to drill an

674
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:49,120
additional well,
and add some additional filtering at the

675
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:52,720
water treatment plant. The plant was
designed to add that on,

676
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,040
and uh
the fees that they'll pay for connection

677
00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:02,160
will
essentially cover the for all that

678
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,160
replacement or add-on.

679
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:13,440
Then there's McCordsville hasn't signed
this. I know that they've uh

680
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:16,120
they've already approved it in theory.
Uh there was some tweaks that they

681
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:20,680
wanted uh
the town managers, myself and Tim Grob

682
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:25,720
to to look at and uh make sure that we
were good with it or to put some things

683
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:29,880
in place, but in theory they're um
they've already approved it. So, we just

684
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:33,640
got to get them to sign it.
>> How do you guys decide the uh third

685
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,360
party?
>> It's written up in here and it's kind of

686
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,600
lengthy, so
>> It's nice to have

687
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:42,640
» That's kind of like how do you get the
third party that would be beneficial

688
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:47,640
» We only need the third party if there
gets to be a a point in time that uh say

689
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:52,400
Tim and I can't agree on something or my
predecessor, whoever the town managers

690
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:57,120
are at the time, um if they can't agree
upon it, then we'll select a mutual

691
00:48:54,560 --> 00:49:00,160
party that's not going to benefit either
community either way.

692
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:05,440
» Yeah, that's what I was kind of curious
where you get that

693
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,440
where you get that person from.

694
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,360
» So, what do you need from us? Do you
need us to approve?

695
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,720
» Yeah, just vote on it and sign it and
then we'll get it to McCordsville and

696
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,680
let them do the same.
>> Okay.

697
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:24,520
» I'll make a motion to approve the MOU
water agreement with McCordsville.

698
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,760
» I'll second.
>> All in favor.

699
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,280
» Aye.
>> Aye.

700
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:36,880
» Make sure we sign the right page here.
One's from McCordsville and one's from

701
00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:39,040
» Now, if you mess up, I got another
>> Yeah.

702
00:49:39,629 --> 00:49:45,200
» [clears throat]
>> There you go.

703
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,200
» Oh, I just lost it.

704
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:53,960
» Okay, uh next step. We have uh
Council to consider resolution number

705
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:57,760
2026-8C,
approving and adopting a parks and

706
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:01,480
recreational facilities naming rights
policy.

707
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:05,880
And
Alex, I don't know. Do you want to

708
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:09,080
surely dust in this?
>> Yep, I can run through this. This is

709
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:14,400
something that we've talked about with
the council and then with Heath. Um as

710
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:18,880
you're you working on these improvements
to to the parks and some other buildings

711
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:24,840
throughout the town,
having an opportunity or having a

712
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:30,680
specific policy for naming rights. And
so we looked at some other communities.

713
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:36,640
We found I think that Zionsville had one
that seemed to work with us. So we

714
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:40,280
modeled and and finessed that from a
starting point to get what we've got in

715
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:44,800
front of you
this evening to create a policy that if

716
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:50,320
someone comes to the town and would like
to

717
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:56,040
um have their name on a public facility,
this outlines the process that

718
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,040
they would go through doing that.

719
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:06,920
» It says a lot.
A lot more a lot more than I thought it

720
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,920
would.

721
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:18,760
» A lot of it well into that it
you know, we're you always try to have a

722
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:25,440
balance, but
who installs it and what if they who

723
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:30,880
maintains it and um so those types of we
we tried to address those

724
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:34,280
issues. Um
so

725
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:41,200
longer than it probably it could have
been, but we wanted to try to cover the

726
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:44,920
town and also make any potential, you
know, business or person that wanted to

727
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,160
um
take advantage of it and have the naming

728
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,880
rights that they're going to have some
responsibilities as well. It's not just

729
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,440
» Sure.
>> write a check for,

730
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:58,400
you know, X amount and that they don't
have There's some responsibilities that

731
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:02,640
that go on with that. So, that's why
it's

732
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,640
uh eight pages.

733
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:09,920
Seven. Actually, six.
Selling myself short. It starts on the

734
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:13,840
The resolution's two pages.
>> Each name that we we choose a name,

735
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:17,960
let's say we have new parks that come
along,

736
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:20,680
it's voted on that the the majority on
the name. It's just not one person

737
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,800
naming it.
>> Correct.

738
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,800
» Thank you.

739
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:33,520
» Yep.
To specifically,

740
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:37,400
um in section four, the town council
governs the approval of naming rights.

741
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:42,400
» So, along those lines, Heath Luster,
parks manager, for the record, I wanted

742
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:48,000
to bring to your attention that I
received a phone call this past week

743
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:52,120
from the Zumbo Anybody know Charles
Bailey?

744
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:55,800
Uh he had a plaque dedicated over to him
in Landmark Park on one of the trees.

745
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:59,200
» He was on the park board for a lot of
years.

746
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:02,400
» So, his son, Philip, uh passed away. I
got a phone call from his grandson,

747
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:07,800
Jake.
Um they would like to donate $25,000

748
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:12,760
to the park to rebuild the retaining
wall by the basketball court and put up

749
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:16,640
a fence along the creek to keep balls
from going in there.

750
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:22,480
Um and his only ask was if we could put
up a sign that was basically Philip

751
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:25,920
Bailey Memorial Basketball Court. And
so,

752
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:31,880
I don't know if that really pertains to
what we're talking about here from a

753
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:36,240
gazebo standpoint, but I wanted to bring
to your attention as we're going through

754
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:41,040
this that there'll be opportunities such
as, you know, this young man. And my

755
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:46,200
understanding of it is is the plan for
him is to stick another $25,000 in an

756
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:50,920
account and every year whatever interest
accrues, figure out some way to give it

757
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:54,800
back through the parks and or schools.
And so that's something he wants to

758
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:59,400
continue to do, but it'll be something
um that he's looking for just kind of

759
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:03,560
confirmation. Is that something that the
council would be willing to do? And so

760
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:06,520
obviously with having his naming rights
um

761
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:10,560
paperwork, you know, I want to make sure
that, you know, we are still allowing

762
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:14,400
for things like that if and when they
come up. So

763
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,840
» That's awesome. That's really nice.
>> Thank you.

764
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,880
» Joe, did you have Are you good with all
this? You didn't see anything in here

765
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:30,440
that was concerning, did you?
>> No, I didn't see anything that was

766
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:33,200
really concerning at all.
You know, something we've been talking

767
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:36,080
about for quite some time and it
>> Yeah.

768
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:39,040
I think it looks good. I mean I
>> Seems pretty thorough.

769
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:44,440
» I really didn't see anything that
concerned me either, so.

770
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,920
Guess we're looking for a motion then.

771
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:57,280
» I'll make a motion to approve resolution
2026-8C

772
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,360
approving and adopting the parks and
recreation facilities naming rights

773
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,280
policy.
>> I'll second.

774
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,760
» All in favor?
>> Aye.

775
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,560
» Sure.

776
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:26,800
» So as you go through your advertisements
and solicitations

777
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,400
I'm going to be very specific about what
you ask. Have you discussed this

778
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,840
» Yeah.
Yeah.

779
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,698
» And just social media, it's all stuff
like that.

780
00:55:32,678 --> 00:55:34,698
» [laughter]

781
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:41,000
» Abraham Lincoln was in it?
>> Oh.

782
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:43,760
I guess it was. It makes sense. Yeah,
thanks. Thanks.

783
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:51,440
» Abraham
Lincoln said don't believe everything

784
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,440
you read on the internet.

785
00:55:54,293 --> 00:55:56,313
» [laughter]

786
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:09,200
» Okay,
next step we have the

787
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:13,760
Council to consider first reading of
ordinance 2026 8B. It's amending the

788
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:17,760
2026
salary ordinance.

789
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:21,360
Um
I'll just start off with this first I

790
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:25,280
guess because
this was

791
00:56:22,720 --> 00:56:29,560
something that I recommended to Beth and
that we need to try to do here moving

792
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:34,040
forward in the next few years to prepare
for Joe's exit.

793
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:38,520
His salary was never has never been and
really still wasn't at where it should

794
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:42,960
be and we're trying to get it
to the level it was comparatively to to

795
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:50,520
find someone that will
somewhat replace what he does. So

796
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:56,320
this part of this here is to actually
amend his salary

797
00:56:53,080 --> 00:57:01,160
so the town managers bi-weekly pay would
would change to 4,330

798
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:09,200
77.
Um and then also it's adds in the senior

799
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:12,760
planner to be hired. I think
They've already had applications and

800
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:18,800
stuff on that too. So this is the reason
that we're asking to amend this

801
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,800
salary ordinance.

802
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,800
I don't know Joe if you want to add
anything or

803
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,920
» No, I mean you you pretty much covered
everything.

804
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:29,520
» Yeah.
So we are closer to having it where it

805
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,480
should be.
Um

806
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:36,320
I think
and if we stay on top of it for the next

807
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:41,960
few years, we should be ready by the
time he gets ready to retire to

808
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:45,040
to attract the right person, hopefully.
>> Is Is this starting from today?

809
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,320
» Yeah.
>> Or is it retroactive?

810
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,600
» It is not retro. Not retro. It started
>> wait till after the ordinance is passed?

811
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,840
» Yeah.
>> Okay.

812
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,800
» Questions?
>> Okay, so this is This ordinance is for

813
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:09,600
this year. So then we still got
>> Yes. Yeah, you have We haven't seen the

814
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:14,320
salary ordinance for 2020. We'll see
that after the

815
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:18,440
uh October after the budget's passed.
>> Uh so how how soon are we looking to get

816
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:22,640
that senior planner?
>> I think uh

817
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:27,880
» We
We extend We extended a job offer to a

818
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:32,840
candidate and it was accepted.
Um I can tell you more about it during

819
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:35,800
planning and building comments.
>> Yeah. Okay.

820
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,880
» Don't steal his thunder. That's what
he's saying.

821
00:58:36,735 --> 00:58:41,320
» [laughter]
>> I don't want to disrupt the flow.

822
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,320
» Yeah.

823
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:48,200
Okay, so if there's no other questions
than that, then I'm looking for um a

824
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:52,480
motion
to approve this salary amendment.

825
00:58:53,960 --> 00:59:00,160
» I'll make a motion to approve first
reading

826
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:04,600
of ordinance 2026-8B
amending the 2026 salary ordinance.

827
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,920
» I'll second.
>> All in favor?

828
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,200
» I.
>> I.

829
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,760
» I.
>> Nay.

830
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:17,960
» Did Libby vote?
>> I say

831
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,960
Did nay, right?

832
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:22,600
» We have to be able to see Libby vote.
>> Is Libby still on there?

833
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,800
» So 3 1.
>> Yeah.

834
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,360
» 3 1.
>> So where do I put her for Olivia? Is it

835
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:40,240
abstaining or do I just put recuse?
>> Yeah.

836
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,240
» She disappeared. I

837
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:47,080
She probably She might even lost
connection. I don't know.

838
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,080
Okay.

839
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:55,920
And that passes 3 to 1.
First reading.

840
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,880
Okay, up next we have
Council to consider commercial lease

841
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:03,040
agreement for the Community Center with
Indy Sharks Baseball.

842
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:06,800
» I can cover this if you'd like just to
save Heath the trouble to walk up. As

843
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:10,960
you know, this
um

844
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:15,040
is the same lease terms that we had with
the Sharks from last year.

845
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:20,000
Um same rent, same terms. That was the
only thing that that changed was to make

846
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:23,720
it so that they can continue to be there
um for another year. And then next year

847
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:27,960
if they give us notice that they want to
extend,

848
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:32,000
we've got the right to negotiate um an
increase in rent or other terms at that

849
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,960
time. But this would just allow them to
continue

850
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:40,120
uh being in the space and using the
space under the same conditions as the

851
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:43,560
existing lease.
>> Any problems Ashley or Heath?

852
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:58,040
» Any questions from anybody up here?
Good.

853
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:02,480
Questions?
>> I'll make a motion to approve commercial

854
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:07,480
lease agreement for the Community Center
with Indy Sharks Baseball for 2020

855
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,720
Well, just for the next year? Is that
what it is?

856
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:14,080
» It's
>> Yeah, 6 27.

857
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:16,240
» Starts September 1st. It's for the
>> I'll second.

858
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,960
» All in favor.
>> Aye.

859
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,960
» Aye.

860
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,720
» Do I need Do I need to sign this one?

861
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,400
» You got You got it.
>> Yeah.

862
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:41,200
» Okay.
>> Yeah.

863
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:44,720
Okay.
Next step, we have

864
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:49,880
Council to consider purchase of utility
terrain vehicle by the Four Wheel Police

865
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,880
Department. Pat.

866
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:55,320
» Good evening.
Like I mentioned the last

867
01:01:53,800 --> 01:02:00,880
um
meeting that we had had some refunds

868
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:07,080
that weren't really expected to the PD.
Um and there's funding there and I was

869
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:12,480
have been looking at a
way to give us some off-road capability

870
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:16,080
to patrol the parks a little bit easier,
patrol the trails,

871
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,320
things like that. And with the recent
floods,

872
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,800
um
I know a lot of

873
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:26,280
departments have used them for that type
stuff. Knock on wood,

874
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:30,640
we hadn't had any of that, but I think
Penn kind of got hit a little bit and

875
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:33,920
Camber City was underwater and a lot of
the Southeast communities were

876
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:39,960
underwater.
Um so, I have the money in my budget

877
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:45,880
that's been basically fully refunded by
some over payments and by insurance.

878
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:51,680
Um and I reached out and got three
quotes, which you guys all have.

879
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:55,880
Here's a summary of the quote um with
all the specs. Everything's the exact

880
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:59,760
same except from Indy Power Sports. They
did not have

881
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:03,920
what I was looking for, so they quoted a
higher-end model, which I'm really not

882
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:07,960
interested in.
Um

883
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:12,480
but I'd like to get approval to go ahead
and

884
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:19,440
make that purchase for the from Fear
Power Sports in Berne, Indiana

885
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:23,560
uh for 26,725.
That covers everything that we would

886
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:27,720
need um
to have some off-road capability and to

887
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:31,480
be able to to patrol the trails a little
bit easier.

888
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:35,320
And with the town growing and it just
and we're putting in more trails and

889
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:41,240
parks and things like that, it just
gives us that a different advantage

890
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:45,160
um than what we currently have with a a
truck or a patrol vehicle.

891
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:48,840
We don't have any off-road capable
vehicles even though they're all-wheel

892
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:53,840
drive or four-wheel drive, they just
they're not going to go through water or

893
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,840
mud or anything like that.

894
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,720
» What's the top speed on these?

895
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,440
I couldn't find it in the specs.
>> I'm not It's not in the specs?

896
01:04:04,894 --> 01:04:08,400
» [laughter]
>> I can do that real quick Google search

897
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:14,600
for you. Hold on.
>> I was just curious.

898
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:18,680
Top speed of a Polaris Ranger XP 1000.
>> That's 60 to 65 miles an hour, sir.

899
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:24,880
They will not
Hopefully, we won't ever need to to go

900
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:28,200
that fast.
>> I bet you it'll be tested.

901
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:34,920
With the
>> There will There will be new policies on

902
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,880
this piece of equipment.
>> Does that cost like fully outfitted?

903
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:40,680
That's how much?
>> fully outfitted. Um only thing we would

904
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:46,360
have to do is add some lights, which I
have some in the garage.

905
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:48,840
And then get some um we have leftover
out in the garage from some of the other

906
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:54,360
vehicles.
So, we would throw some decals on it and

907
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:59,200
some lights in it and a siren and that's
really about it.

908
01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:00,920
Those would be very minimal costs.
Um

909
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:07,200
we have the equipment, just some
installation fees.

910
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,200
Couple hundred bucks, I don't know.

911
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,280
» Damn.

912
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:19,200
» They will entertain a motion.
>> I'll make a motion to approve the

913
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:25,560
purchase of a UTV by the Fort Worth
Police Department from Bear Power Sports

914
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:27,840
for $26,725.
>> I'll second.

915
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,440
» All in favor?
>> Aye.

916
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,440
» Aye.

917
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,280
» Thank you.

918
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,920
» All right.

919
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,120
All right.

920
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,960
So, next we have departments, Joe.

921
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:55,440
» Okay. I don't know where
Let me turn my mic on so you can hear

922
01:05:53,840 --> 01:06:00,840
me. Um
The trails plan is coming along um

923
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:04,960
pretty good right now as far as the
section two. We're still

924
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:08,800
uh looking to let that project November
5th. Uh seem like everything's lining up

925
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:12,640
with all of our permits and all the
INDOT stuff that we need. So, looking

926
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:18,640
forward to to getting moving on that
project. Um INDOT has uh given us the

927
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:24,480
approval for the intersection at 13th
and uh Broadway for the South um Madison

928
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:29,440
Boulevard project that we're working on.
We had uh talked to INDOT about

929
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:33,160
expediting that permit just due to some
of the other intersections that INDOT's

930
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:36,640
going to be working on the next few
years. Um we can try to get our project

931
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:40,000
done
before

932
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:43,360
um they start closing down some of these
other intersections and causing detour

933
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:49,280
issues.
Um and then we've got a uh

934
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:53,920
300 ft of 10-in storm pipe that's on
McCarty Street north of Church.

935
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:57,720
Um we've been having a lot of issues and
I think a lot of you probably gone

936
01:06:55,480 --> 01:07:00,480
through the standing water on State
Street there at McCarty when we get a

937
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:04,520
good rain.
The uh the pipe we tried to get a video

938
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:08,560
through it. The only thing we could get
a video through the pipe was busted and

939
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:11,960
collapsed and
pretty bad shape and it's it's packed

940
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:15,520
full of stones. So,
we're going to be getting some price

941
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:20,960
quotes to set one manhole and run about
300 ft of storm pipe so we can fix that

942
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:25,400
and get that drain flowing again.
Um just an update on the alley there on

943
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:28,680
Main Street. All the concrete's in, the
dirt's in, the electrical's ran, the

944
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:31,680
water's ran.
Um

945
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:34,720
our goal is we got a patch on the
west side where they had to dig up the

946
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:38,200
water main.
Uh we're going to get that patched, try

947
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:42,080
to get all the plantings in there and
get it opened up for the uh

948
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:46,286
uh
the Blazer 88 ride this weekend and

949
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:49,560
definitely before Christmas.
[clears throat] So,

950
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:53,320
we I know Heath has picked up all the
plants and if the weather holds off,

951
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:58,000
they'll be getting those put in the
ground on Wednesday.

952
01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:04,200
» Looks really nice.
>> Thank you. I'll pass that along to the

953
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:07,400
guys who worked so hard to put it in.
>> So, that storm uh

954
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:12,840
storm line you're responding about
replacing is all 300 ft need to be

955
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:21,319
replaced or can just a spot repair?
>> Um actually the pro- project is probably

956
01:08:18,759 --> 01:08:26,279
closer to a little over 400 ft and what
I'm doing is I'm setting a structure at

957
01:08:22,839 --> 01:08:30,080
that location and then
from the from the structure north of

958
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:33,920
Church Street to the ditch, it all needs
to be replaced. The segment from there

959
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:37,400
back to the original manhole,
I'm going to see about getting that

960
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:41,040
lined. I need to do some more inspection
on some of the other pipe in there

961
01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:41,040
first.

962
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,120
I'm just trying to do the worst of it as
far as replacement.

963
01:08:44,279 --> 01:08:48,799
» Yeah.
>> It's going to be a little tricky because

964
01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:52,640
we got a storm sewer and a or a sanitary
sewer and a water main and everything in

965
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:56,839
there and there's previously been dug
and we're going to be 10-ft deep so

966
01:08:54,839 --> 01:09:01,200
that makes it a little bit uh
more sketchy when you got previously

967
01:08:58,839 --> 01:09:03,799
disturbed trenches along next to where
we're digging.

968
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:09,480
» How far How How deep is that sanitary
though? It's probably

969
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:13,359
20 30 ft?
>> No, it's not that deep in there. In

970
01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:15,400
fact, it's probably going to be real
close to the 10-ft deep.

971
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:19,160
» Really?
>> It's going to be

972
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:23,440
cuz that was part of our uh
combined sewer system back in the day.

973
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:27,440
We put in a new sanitary at the uh
same elevation or maybe a little bit

974
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:33,920
deeper than existing storm
and just use the storm converted to your

975
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,920
combined to sanitary or storm sewer.

976
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,600
That's all I have unless you got
something for me.

977
01:09:37,839 --> 01:09:44,000
» Yeah, I got a question. Uh the trees
that are in the easement

978
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:49,640
I had a uh resident say that he's
hitting his head on trees as he's coming

979
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:55,080
through on Stat and on Main Street. Is
the town responsible for that or is it

980
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:58,280
the land the homeowner right in front?
>> It It's realistically it's the

981
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:01,760
homeowners because in most cases it's
their tree. Um

982
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:05,840
but we've been going out and trimming.
Anytime anybody reports anything, even

983
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:10,080
though that we do have the ordinance
that says that the homeowner is supposed

984
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:12,680
to maintain them, if they if they were
if somebody reports it to us, we're

985
01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:17,800
going out and taking care of it.
>> Okay. Cuz he was just wondering if he

986
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:21,440
could volunteer to trim them back.
If it's

987
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:25,360
to get it done.
Uh there's quite a few. He He drove me

988
01:10:23,480 --> 01:10:27,920
around today. There's There's a lot of
trees that are

989
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,920
» Just give me a route and I'll get our
guys to do it. We can knock it out

990
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:35,080
quicker and we can get rid of the limbs.
If homeowner sees somebody out there

991
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:40,000
besides the street department trimming
>> just asking for him if it's possible.

992
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:43,320
» It's like
I don't I don't know that I want to get

993
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,480
somebody out there doing it voluntarily
and

994
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,400
» Okay.
>> get hurt or something like that and then

995
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:50,040
the property owners. I know even when
the street guys are out there, we've

996
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:54,280
been uh
yelled at by property owners, so

997
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:59,440
It'd probably be cleaner.
>> I didn't know if there was an ordinance

998
01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:02,800
that they had to keep them so high or
>> They just need to Yeah, for ADA purposes

999
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,280
and stuff, they need to be high enough
you're not going hit your head on them.

1000
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,684
» Okay.
>> Sure.

1001
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:11,600
» Cuz he's pretty tall. He's like 6'5.
>> [laughter]

1002
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,360
» So, I just he's probably tall as Andy,
so

1003
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,480
» Just Just give me a route. Give me a
route moment to do

1004
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:18,400
» Okay.
I'll let I'll I'll I'll have him write

1005
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:22,160
up a route. Thanks.
>> And we we always have that uh

1006
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:26,440
app on our website where people can
report any issues. So, we've been

1007
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:28,640
getting quite a few of those lately.
>> Mhm.

1008
01:11:29,644 --> 01:11:32,720
» [clears throat]
>> Adam?

1009
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:42,240
» Uh yes, so anything that I wanted to
report on was to follow up on the senior

1010
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:47,520
planner position. So,
um really quickly

1011
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:50,160
for the public's benefit too is we had a
um there's myself, and there's Jerry in

1012
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:54,200
the department, and then we had a
part-time

1013
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:57,880
um administrative assistant, uh Sarah.
She did a wonderful job, but she went

1014
01:11:55,800 --> 01:12:01,880
ahead and took um full-time employment
elsewhere.

1015
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:07,160
So, rather than refilling that position,
we actually eliminated it.

1016
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:10,800
And then converted it to a planner. Just
have an additional planner so that this

1017
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:14,840
way that this person
um has the ability to review items and

1018
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:18,560
also approve items,
um and it'll hopefully make things more

1019
01:12:16,480 --> 01:12:21,080
efficient for the residents. Like I had
mentioned I think maybe at a previous

1020
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:25,720
meeting,
ultimately what we'd like to get to is

1021
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:30,640
some over-the-counter approvals for some
simple things, whether that's easement

1022
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:36,960
encroachments, electrical permits, shed,
um really

1023
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:36,960
um routine type items. So, um

1024
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:46,080
So, in order to do that,
um we we interviewed probably about

1025
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:51,000
I I think we interviewed seven people,
and we had probably

1026
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:55,600
maybe about 40 45
um applicants in one fashion or another.

1027
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:59,520
So, we had a really good amount of
qualified people that were interested in

1028
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:04,480
the position.
And it was originally going to be an

1029
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,480
assistant planner,

1030
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:13,800
a lower-tier entry-level position.
However,

1031
01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:18,840
we ended up offering the job to her. Her
name is Hannah Rose Urbanski. She was

1032
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:22,760
the planning director and she was an
interim planning director and then

1033
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:25,920
became planning director in Pendleton.
She's got her

1034
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:30,080
undergraduate degree in planning,
master's in planning.

1035
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:36,440
So, she's got great experience,
especially in a small town like ours.

1036
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:42,920
So, very personable, very knowledgeable.
Definitely looking forward to having her

1037
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:48,440
start. She's going to start on Monday,
October 5th.

1038
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:53,360
So, that's where we're at with that and
and if you have any questions, happy to

1039
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:57,040
to address those.
>> Did you get a chance to look at that

1040
01:13:54,720 --> 01:14:01,160
sign? Cuz when you look at the drawings
on McDonald's, it looks like that

1041
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:04,720
port-bill sign
is even with the

1042
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:08,160
um
where people have to stop at the

1043
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:12,880
McDonald's before they go into the
walkway. It's it's pretty flush straight

1044
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:16,200
on for a sight.
>> Yeah, I haven't I haven't had the

1045
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:20,440
opportunity to look at it yet, but we
certainly have time and um

1046
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:23,320
your point is well taken, but we want to
make sure that

1047
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:26,960
that port-bill sign is not going to
cause a sight visibility issue there

1048
01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:30,360
with people coming in and out of the
McDonald's.

1049
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:33,200
Um so, if we need to adjust it, we
certainly can.

1050
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:37,320
Um I think the state would want us to do
that, too.

1051
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:39,280
So, um yeah, we'll definitely it's on
the list and we'll continue to look at

1052
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,000
it.
>> All right, thank you.

1053
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:45,600
» Thanks.
>> Um with that senior planner having

1054
01:14:44,181 --> 01:14:50,520
[clears throat] her master's and her all
that, is there any fear of being over

1055
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:53,000
qualified that
I don't I don't know how much schooling

1056
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,800
it normally takes and stuff for that
position, but

1057
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:59,120
I just didn't know, like I said, if it
would be over qualification and

1058
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:02,521
» yeah, the Well, the other thing that we
did, too, that I forgot to mention was

1059
01:15:01,480 --> 01:15:07,240
um
>> [clears throat]

1060
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:11,560
» that is why the the position, although
the funding is at the same amount that

1061
01:15:09,440 --> 01:15:15,240
we had originally anticipated, we did at
least

1062
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:20,520
um give her a higher title of senior
planner to reflect her

1063
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:23,520
um qualifications. So,
I think um you know, in talking to her,

1064
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:27,840
I think
she she wants to get back in the

1065
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:32,800
municipal planning and and
um

1066
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:37,720
she's familiar with Fortville, so
I think certainly with with any

1067
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:42,920
applicant, there's always a degree of of
risk that that person

1068
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:47,080
may move on, but um you know, at the end
of the day, I think given the the

1069
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:52,400
applicant pool that we had, it was a
strong pool, um there's no doubt that

1070
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:57,360
she was the most qualified and and also
had the best

1071
01:15:54,200 --> 01:16:02,120
experience um for a town like like
Fortville, so

1072
01:15:59,440 --> 01:16:05,600
we'll see. Looking forward to it.
>> That's good.

1073
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:08,760
» No no issues you think of her uh
hourly pay and stuff?

1074
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:12,200
I mean,
she going to start wanting a lot more

1075
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:16,120
money and stuff after
few months or a year?

1076
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:21,040
» Well, I guess we'll we'll cross that
bridge when we get to it and um

1077
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:23,200
» We told her what the pay was when she
was applying and see if it was something

1078
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:27,400
she was interested in.
>> Yeah, okay.

1079
01:16:24,440 --> 01:16:32,120
» Yeah, we have those those discussions
um early on.

1080
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:34,560
And uh
So.

1081
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:38,480
» Cool. Hope she works out.
>> Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I think

1082
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:42,560
she will.
Any other questions on planning stuff?

1083
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:47,120
» No.
Okay.

1084
01:16:44,440 --> 01:16:49,840
That's it for me then.
>> He's coming up.

1085
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:58,280
» Uh Joe touched on Main Street.
Um talked about 25,000. So that's all I

1086
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:01,160
got for you tonight unless you guys have
any questions for me.

1087
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:04,720
» We don't have any.
>> Okay. Thank you.

1088
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,720
» Thanks, Heath.

1089
01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:10,640
And Andy,
what's on your plan?

1090
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:17,440
» We have Blizzard 88 this weekend. Should
be a nice event as long as weather is

1091
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,920
good.
Um

1092
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:25,120
and [clears throat] then the following
weekend Cammy's Cause.

1093
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:28,640
So uh we They're actually on Some of you
may have seen it on Facebook, but they

1094
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:32,600
are going to have a celebration that was
supposed to happen last Saturday.

1095
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:39,720
It's going to be this Saturday at 11:30
in the morning at uh Three Rivers and

1096
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:43,200
where uh Cammy's Cause received their a
check to put them over the

1097
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:48,000
million-dollar mark for funds that they
raised for

1098
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:52,200
uh the minus 4p um program and
everything and it's

1099
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:56,360
it's going to be a big deal. So uh Jared
sent us a message just asking everybody

1100
01:17:54,000 --> 01:18:00,440
to come out for that if they could uh to
help celebrate when they come back out.

1101
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:04,720
Uh doesn't have to be anything long,
just you know, something that they've

1102
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:09,440
been working on for
Here we are in the 22nd year of that. So

1103
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:12,200
um it's going to be awesome.
Um

1104
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:16,680
Other than that, I think that's all I
have.

1105
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:21,960
That is this Saturday. This Saturday at
Three Rivers 11:30 a.m.

1106
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:26,480
» And do you do you know where people can
get like yard signs?

1107
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:30,720
» I Well, they bunch of them showed up
this weekend around town. Um

1108
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:35,760
and your wife actually asked me about
that as well. And they're supposed to be

1109
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:40,880
bringing some up to us here as well. Um
so I'll find out for sure if anybody

1110
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:45,880
needs one, I can get one
for you or whatever. I mean, we get

1111
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:51,240
Um, just under 2 weeks now from that for
that huge event, so

1112
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:56,160
five stages, 33 bands.
It's going to be pretty big deal and it

1113
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:59,640
encourage everybody to if you can light
up your house with

1114
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:03,560
green lights, that's the official color
of Cammie's Cause and decorate

1115
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:06,880
storefront windows and
decorate your house if you want. I don't

1116
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:09,360
know. I think Fritz has already started
that.

1117
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:16,400
Anything else for me?
>> Do they need Are they still looking for

1118
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:19,520
donations and stuff for their um
their auction?

1119
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:22,120
» I I'm not sure.
>> I don't know that either. I was

1120
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:26,080
» Um,
always looking for donations, I believe.

1121
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,080
So

1122
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:30,960
Reach out and ask.
>> Okay.

1123
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,320
Pat,
anything else from you?

1124
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:38,920
» Yep. Um,
Officer Payne graduates this week from

1125
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:42,720
ILEA, so we'll be happy to get him back.
Um,

1126
01:19:40,440 --> 01:19:45,600
Officer Morland in the back there, we
submitted his waiver to the law

1127
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:48,920
enforcement training board from
Illinois. They held their meeting today,

1128
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:52,240
so we're waiting to hear back to see if
his waiver was approved or not.

1129
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:57,800
Assuming it will be with some
stipulations of doing our criminal law,

1130
01:19:55,120 --> 01:20:01,480
traffic law type stuff.
Um, and then

1131
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:05,440
uh
Um, last week I got Alex the new MOU for

1132
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:11,280
the school
for 26 through 31.

1133
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:14,320
Um, he's going to give me the final
blessing on it and then I'll get it to

1134
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:19,120
the school.
We can continue staff officers out there

1135
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:23,160
and and then in the MOU it also states
that uh they'll be responsible for a

1136
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:27,440
vehicle.
So I know Beth said that we were working

1137
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:32,680
on some.
Uh, Beth and I talked about having

1138
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:35,360
school get one for us next year also, so
that should get us in line where we need

1139
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:39,800
to be.
But, it's nice that

1140
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:43,120
they're willing to do that and just buy
us well, we buy the car and then they

1141
01:20:41,480 --> 01:20:46,040
just pay us back.
So.

1142
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:49,040
Other than that, I don't have anything
unless you got questions.

1143
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:55,600
» Nothing.
Missy, you have anything for us?

1144
01:20:55,640 --> 01:21:01,320
Alex, do you have anything else for us?
>> I don't have anything else unless you

1145
01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:01,320
have questions for me.

1146
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,360
» Any more public comment?

1147
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:16,360
Brian, you have anything?
>> I do not. Thank you.

1148
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:20,080
» I have nothing.
>> I'm good.

1149
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,280
» I'm good.
>> I'll take a promotion to approve and

1150
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,680
sign vouchers.
>> I'll make a motion to approve and sign

1151
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,800
vouchers.
>> Second.

1152
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,040
» All in favor.
>> Aye.

1153
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:30,160
» Aye. I'll make a motion to adjourn at
7:52.

1154
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,200
» I'll second.
>> All in favor.

1155
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,760
» Aye.
>> Aye.

1156
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,280
Thank you for coming.