[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:00] Aye, aye, for you. Just a date. [0:06] Say six. April six. You ready? I'm ready. April six. We're having a meeting about concrete the pickleball court. Come on. You're right here. This will warm that for you. [0:31] One of them from the regional contractor doing the other side of the pickleball court. They want the same square footage cost. As they're doing the concrete for now. [0:41] Now, can we just make it clarify what we're here for? [0:45] The question that we're here to discuss by the emergency meeting is whether it's prudent [0:51] to spend the money, to remove and replace the balance of the concrete under the [1:00] while it's already partially torn up. [1:05] In lieu of, let me finish, I'm just thinking here, [1:10] in lieu of an ADA ramp to take the old concrete [1:16] in compliance with the new concrete, [1:19] which I'll be able to look at. [1:21] And in lieu of the suggestion by Jones and the mill [1:25] to put a drain in for one area that's puddling, [1:27] that won't bring the rest of the defective concrete by my opinion. [1:34] Like, as I have looked at that, I walked it and walked it and I thought, [1:41] we don't have too many choices. [1:43] Right, I also walked it and that concrete is in sad repair. [1:49] I mean, it's in sad shape. [1:57] I wish the Old City Council would have acted on Rod's suggestion then. [2:05] I know it was three times. [2:08] You were here for my explanation. [2:10] They said the way it wasn't a good scope because I think the Old City Council wanted [2:14] to be frugal and mine their pennies and only to look we had money in a graph for it. [2:19] is the way I remember, because it was discussed, [2:22] you guys brought it up. [2:24] That's somewhat true. [2:28] This project was pushed, I believe, [2:30] by a couple of citizens in there, [2:35] we're really adamant about doing it. [2:36] They got the Lambda committee to donate $30,000, [2:40] I believe, the city committed to around $40,000 for it. [2:46] And if it's supposed to be half of that building with new concrete all the time, it started [2:53] out of the little cap on all of it. [2:55] And that was not going to work in that would have been a mistake. [2:59] So then they brought it back and so we're going to do half of it and we're going to do some [3:03] sand volleyball pits and we're going to do some playground equipment. [3:09] Jones and Demail liked many of the projects they worked on for us came in and gave us [3:18] a budget number that was well below what reality was and so when we got the actual bids [3:23] for it you couldn't afford to do it all and so we made the decision to go forward and not [3:35] And I don't know what the status of the playground equipment is in there, but I think that it's [3:40] going to be as wide as well. [3:43] It was sent to myself in there. [3:46] And so the Pickleball court in there, when they walked away from the cap on everything, [3:51] it was always just going to be that one half in there. [3:55] And so we start bringing it up. [3:58] I mean, we actually got some bids from, I don't know if we got really formal bids, but [4:07] we got cost estimates from Jones and Demille for whatever good that is, of what it would [4:12] cost just to put regular concrete, not pre-stressed in the other side, not tension-wire stress concrete [4:19] in the other side and I thought that we had a way to fund that and it's brought up several [4:28] times in the mayor the last time I brought her up he says I think we have a path forward to do [4:33] that and that's where it got left. Well and I think what we've got here today isn't your proposal [4:40] Jake that not only do we do concrete but we bring in road base to fix the elevations so that we have [4:47] to bring it up a survey is to bring it to where it needs to be and take care of it all at once. [4:53] We're eliminating the ADA stuff. [4:56] So do we bring it up and only do a form slide, but it would meet the same elevation? [5:03] So no more 88 ramp? No more? So they want to need one? [5:07] They want the same ramp square foot prices. They're potential higher concrete? [5:11] I agree. [5:14] Yeah. [5:14] All right. [5:15] Thank you. [5:18] There is no way. [5:19] Let the record show. [5:20] I agree. [5:21] Yeah. [5:22] So what are your vids that you've got? [5:24] They're just for the concrete work. [5:26] 59. [5:27] There's is. [5:29] Uh, who is theirs? [5:30] The general or the contract that is doing it now. [5:34] The. [5:35] The. [5:35] He's already. [5:36] 10th quarter. [5:37] 10th quarter. [5:39] 10th quarter. [5:41] And he's 59 yeah, you're 1350 a square foot times 4400 no [5:48] So 59,000 yes, and then you're another three all are in 50 cents to tear it out [5:55] So that does not include removal 350 a foot to remove it wrong. It doesn't include the road base either does it now [6:04] I'll they said that they they said that they would do it for the same square footage [6:10] And so what's the other bit we've got skyline pole building Jeremy and 56 to remove an important ringer on base in all? [6:20] 56,000. Tell me his business name again. How many yards of concrete are you? Jeremy? [6:26] Skyline is 4,400 square feet. So that's 555 yards, right? But skylines the whole job. [6:37] He told both contractors, they had a spot where they could dump concrete up the pit. [6:43] Give me that total one more time. [6:45] How many yards do you have? [6:49] Is he state how many yards? [6:51] I got 55 in the head. [6:52] What you get? [6:54] I got 55. [6:57] I figure 80 feet. [7:00] And I've got one other bit going into it. [7:02] So how much was the pit? [7:07] from Skyline, he says, [7:10] terrible concrete haul off, hauling road basin compact prep for concrete, supply and tie all rebar number three every two feet on [7:20] centers, cloud concrete, forage, room finish, cut joints, every 10 foot on square, haul off debris, [7:28] includes the pump truck and machine-time skitter and maniacs, $4,400 per feet for $6,000. [7:37] It was $1,000, $1,018 a yard, [7:44] $5,55 a yard, so to say how many yards? [7:47] No, but this is just supposed to be something. [7:50] Well, I just get paid to $20,000. [7:52] It's supposed to be $8,000. [7:54] It's supposed to be $8,000. [7:55] It's supposed to be $8,000. [7:55] It's supposed to be $8,000. [7:58] Yeah. [7:58] Yeah, yeah, yeah, it comes out if you do the math 88 but I've always figured for 80 to me [8:04] Well, I've always just gone 80 plus [8:10] There you go. Yeah, he's got 49 hundred square feet [8:16] Well, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is for the pickleball. So this isn't applicable [8:22] Yeah, he just says the same amount [8:47] We're not going to be able to put anything on in the bank from our building over the cemetery which I was hoping for, but we could donate that money to it. [9:05] So from the cell to fire department we can still get the cemetery building and [9:10] cement and the cement for the bowery but we have 30 we have but we have 30 on the [9:17] pickable we have to cover yes and cover the 30 so all those are covered without any [9:24] additional loans or anything needed we knitted 148 right I've got to make sure [9:30] that's the case but we're that's pretty close he's our part 30 or 40 what's that my ours was [9:39] 40 and lamb days was 30 yeah on the pickle ball yeah that was my impression yeah it's 40 ours [9:46] 40 yeah but I didn't think that I thought when the city was 40 I thought when we netted out we're [9:51] going to be about 30 so I know we're going to be awkward aren't close to being yeah at 36 [9:58] Well, and we talked about some things that, you know, we were losing the sand ball of all or losing the others. So we wanted to reduce our city [10:11] as much as we could but we didn't know what that would be until the whole thing was whole. [10:17] And I still think both oil the ones extreme, but the other ones still pretty high in my mind. [10:27] Christians call me the other day and they want a bit on it. [10:33] Christian ready mix? [10:35] Yeah, I wanted to say as long as you don't use Christians and ready mix. [10:39] You know, you get to concrete somewhere else? [10:41] Yeah. [10:42] But they still want a bit on it. [10:50] We're going to have enough money, we've got somewhere between 72 and 82 left over from [10:55] the fire station. [10:56] So we've got enough money, we will have any spare, but we've got enough, but I think these [11:03] guys are outrageous. [11:05] I think 17 bucks a foot for tear out and replace on a job this big is outrageously high. [11:14] You know, we think the only other thing I think we need to consider, my two cents, it's [11:19] time is of the essence. [11:21] You've got them right now in a position where we need to act pretty quick if we're going [11:27] to do it. [11:29] Isn't that where Jones and Mellis, whether or not we're going to do it, they have it on [11:33] the schedule this week to pour the other, yeah, to do the slope and the drain and everything [11:37] else that we want. [11:39] That's the commitment I have. [11:42] I'm not saying over pay now because we're in a hurry but I I do believe we need to make a decision and we got about three months for lamb day. [11:54] So so I think we make the decision yesterday and correct me if I'm wrong I think everybody's of the decision that we we kind of don't have a choice. [12:07] We need to do it one way or the other and we just got to get our bits to our we in a position that I would be okay [12:15] Even worst case scenario and I could consider that I would be worst case scenario [12:19] And if we can get it less expensive than that great. Well, like I always tell my wife plan for the worst hope for the best [12:28] That's kind of my thoughts is [12:30] Although I don't like $56,000 [12:34] It's a it's palatable [12:37] If that's what we have to do, but I feel extremely confident we can get it lower than that. [12:47] I'm thinking somewhere in the 40, 40, 48 pounds. [12:51] And that's great. [12:53] Because I'm looking at cost per square foot. [12:57] I'm sitting in that big. [12:59] You know, if you put your foot locked to your house, it's going to cost you 30 bucks a square foot. [13:05] because you're paying shorthold nearing else. We've got 55 yards of mud coming in here. [13:11] We've got five truck loads of mud and one pump and I'm thinking it's in the $10 to $12 range. [13:19] Fair out in the place. That sounds terrible. And maybe I've been down to the business [13:24] solidly for two full years. I think your tear out is quite expensive. I mean, it's a [13:29] Well, that's not so bad. I don't think it. There's no reborder in it. No, but there's the yield [13:37] listing. So you get it out of there and everything else. You got a whole wire around that side. [13:41] You got one in $56,000 to buy it by $4,400 score fee is $12.72. [13:53] I think if that's the case, are we in the ballpark? [14:02] I think we have to let Kurt have some latitude to go out and get a couple of bits and get [14:09] traditions sent in. [14:10] Any good? [14:10] Yeah, personally, we need to approve it. [14:13] Approved up to 50 grand today. [14:15] Approved up to 56. [14:17] So when we know we can get it done, that's kind of my point. [14:21] It mainly does need a yes, like if you're going to do a yes, [14:24] so we can tell Garrett, yes, we're going to do it, [14:26] have them stop where they're at. [14:29] I wonder if we can get the discount from them not putting that drain in. [14:33] Well, well, the drain management issue then, [14:35] that was all you get back to is the price. [14:38] Right, that was all that. [14:39] This is your situation too. [14:42] Plus a 20% and we know where that goes. [14:45] So I was the main thing, you just, so I have a question, this kind of from a contractor standpoint, [14:53] with it and this kind of spell. [14:56] So when you tell him no, is he going to come back and... [15:00] Ask you what it's worth to you. If he does, I mean, Sharpen's is pencil. Yeah. I mean, can you? Because he's sitting right there. I mean, he's already molded in here. He knows what he's. He's mobilized. Yeah, it in there. He's they would be the. He's hooking. I can't believe it. Yeah. Why would he? Why would he? Why would he? Why would he? All these sitting right there? Probably. [15:27] Unless we can find somebody to come in and do it for, you know, 45. Right. [15:31] But when you tell him no, we're not going to do that. That's what he's going to say. Well, what's it worth to hear? [15:37] He may or may not, but if he does, yeah, that's something. [15:41] But tonight we make the decision, yes, that'll be our worst case, skyline. [15:49] And then over the next week, I need to get two people that I'm thinking of to bid it. [15:59] And once Christchurch said, and the other one, I'm not sure it was big enough to pull it off, but [16:08] so we probably, I'd probably, I'll take that back, because that's all we need is to have somebody [16:14] have a problem with the concrete, because they can't handle it. [16:20] We get best guys that know what they're doing with the pneumatic screen stuff, it's so slick. [16:27] Can I make a motion? [16:29] Yes, please do, I'd make a motion that we approve in this emergency meeting, [16:38] the balance [16:39] of the battery to be torn out, concrete torn out and replaced, including road base, [16:50] compaction, concrete, rebar, minimum number three on two foot centers, and finish [17:00] form and finish, not to exceed $56,000. [17:11] Now you've got the number right, where's [17:14] everything else I think? Okay, I'll have second, there's a motion, carry second, any other [17:23] discussion. Yeah. All in favor? Carey? Yes. [17:31] Yes. Jake? Yes. Yes. Okay. Motion carries. [17:40] How does, wait, how's the citizen refill? [17:45] How's it about double what Jones and [17:46] the mill said? They thought it would be a thing. And our experience has been we [17:53] come up short. They have come up on this short slide on every single thing. [18:00] The other [18:00] Other than they want to advance wrong defense, what do you want to do with it? [18:07] I know they talked about putting the fence underneath the eaves. [18:11] Last meeting. [18:12] They just want to know what you guys can do. [18:17] That's what all the fence can do. [18:21] It turns to just a dab and then he's like, yeah, I don't know. [18:24] He's put up like a fourth of the fence to keep the ball in. [18:28] Let him chase it. [18:30] You know what I want to see? [18:31] That sounds harsh, but what was my comment? [18:37] I know that if you get the kids on the dirt bikes on the floor there's that I see every day. [18:42] No, I think there's some value to that, to something there, but this has to be done right away. [18:51] They're going to wear the outside of the footing. [18:53] What the other thing I have seen on some of these pickleball courts is they have netting. [18:59] with the netting from pole to pole, accomplish the same thing as a fence, and that's kind of that windscreen netting that's there. [19:07] Does that do us, is that less expensive than a fence, or is it any better? [19:12] I don't know if it's any better or not, but I kind of feel like we need to keep the security as much as we possibly can. [19:22] to keep the bikes and who's going to go open and close it at the hours that you're going to have. [19:28] Thank you. [19:30] Yeah, if it's open till 10 o'clock tonight, who's going to lock it? [19:35] Once again, I heard. [19:39] Would only let the lights come on until 10 o'clock p.m. [19:43] Nobody's going to be able to play in the dark. [19:45] You can put them on a timer. [19:49] I think that was the comment put them on photo sales, but I don't think I don't think we're ever going to stop the ATVs in the motorbikes unless you actually put out a gate and lock it, and if you don't want to lock it every night at 10 and open at a 6, then you take all the fence down completely. [20:10] I tend to agree with Bond that where there's a will there's a way and rather than have things [20:18] disrupted and torn up and people getting hurt, I'm not sure we don't make it easy. [20:24] Well, taking off the fence, you're going to eliminate the fence slash ladder to the kids [20:31] climbing on the roof and spend an ongoing problem because they're climbing the fence. [20:35] I agree. [20:35] Yeah, [20:38] I'm so worried about cameras in there who's going to watch and who's getting [20:43] porcelain? Well, they recorded and then if you have to follow them and you can go back [20:49] to it. You're not able to prevent anything with a camera but you can catch the culprit. [20:56] Yeah, they can deal with it on the back side. I think there could be some value to the screen, [21:02] the the windscreen and potentially keep it in the balls and play there but it [21:08] won't be secure but it's not going to be secure. Yeah but I think that's [21:14] but it would be hard to get four wheelers through there. Well they're gonna go through [21:18] you that double white wheelie try. We've got double white gates on there. Well I think [21:27] maybe I'm naive, but we, until it's a problem, is it a problem? [21:33] So it's not go searching out a problem. [21:35] Right. [21:35] It's not create something just because they're the what-if. [21:38] And if we need to add the windscreen, I like that idea though. [21:42] That's an easy thing because you order it up. [21:44] You order it online for inexpensively. [21:47] So it's your width and the bottom. [21:49] But the city comes on that and the skirt can put it up. [21:52] Oh yeah. [21:52] It's not going to cost us a normal light to do it. [21:55] I think that's an economical way to, if we need it, yeah, say they ever use that, I've [22:02] never used it before or bought it, I've used it for my dog running like the mesh, yeah [22:09] not much cost, not anymore, because I bought like 10 foot. [22:13] I saw it over, I went over to the hardware store the other day and noticed it and we're [22:18] on it. [22:19] That's what they've got around, but they've got it up against the fence too and I just don't [22:23] know that I'll meet them. [22:24] And this, you'd ordered online and they'd put a sleeve at the top so you could run a wire through it. [22:30] And you'd want to run the wire through it, through that wire. [22:34] From your eve, carry on with it. [22:36] Or 40 times, you know, whatever you're going to do. [22:39] Yeah. [22:39] So, are there two things that I forgot? [22:41] What did the price was? [22:42] I don't think that was worth it. [22:43] I forgot to speed up. [22:45] Figure out what it cost to build those. [22:48] And I looked up to make it for the city. [22:52] but I didn't feel like I could get it done in time for land days, but I forgot what the price was. I can get it in. [23:05] Well, let's leave this till I think what Rich said is smart. [23:10] So they need to think about the fence here pretty soon, whether they're looking up over the outside concrete around the footing. [23:17] I think that's where they are going to either move it or... [23:22] So I want to get started. [23:23] For me, the lack of consensus is... take it out. [23:27] No fence. [23:28] That would be my phone. [23:31] What do you think, Kim? [23:33] You'd be the one that would have to lock it every now and then. [23:35] You'd live the closest. [23:37] That's right. [23:38] I got it. [23:50] So if it's not secure, then why have the fans? [23:55] Then if we need it, and we put up the sunsets, sun mesh. [24:00] What was he put that wherever they put their foot? [24:03] I don't think he used to have really professional type pick-up ball players. [24:08] I don't think he's known for that, right? [24:10] I think the world champion came out of here, didn't he? [24:14] I think, and I'm just guessing the Marona ones is just a gate. [24:23] There's no lock on it or nothing. [24:25] It's just a mangate. [24:27] I mean, you can still get a motor cycle through there, but you're not going to get a flow wheel there's a way [24:34] I'll go through [24:36] Well, you know, it's a double. It's a double because they're pulling out. Well, the float all the time in and out [24:44] Yeah, so but we're parking the floats somewhere else. Yeah, that's why you're doing the city [24:49] But you can put it in a city building and you're gonna have [24:52] this stuff out of the maintenance sheds now in the cemetery so what's kind of [24:58] they're usually for the talent show bringing bleachers which wouldn't fit [25:02] through the single gate it's got to go through the double gates okay if we [25:09] had a fence [25:13] it's right in the middle on this side okay here's the gate we put [25:20] would have posed right there in the middle, close enough so you couldn't get a four wheeler [25:27] so you could still get bikes, it's like a bullard, but you could pull in and out or bolt [25:35] it in or something. Then we could close the gates, not worry about locking them up, but you [25:42] You couldn't get a very big, you know, for a wheel or still have an opening. [25:49] I mean, I see somebody's in the grass area, south of the school once in a while. [25:58] I never see them ripping around in there. [26:00] They might cut across and go do something in there and place off here or whatever, but I [26:05] never see them in there ripping around with, you know, like its kids and whatnot. [26:11] I don't know if we have anybody in the park now doing donuts and rip them off. [26:15] I didn't notice any tracks over there. [26:18] I'm just on Amazon. [26:20] I don't know if it's a problem. [26:21] And I mean, a 6x50 green privacy windscreen fence is 50 bucks. [26:27] A bucket hood. [26:29] Well, isn't the fence included in the bit that they originally had? [26:33] No, it's not. [26:34] That's more money we'd have to come up with for a fence. [26:38] I think we hold that in advance, see if we really need it, but the fence comes down. [26:45] The evening is always your evening, it's about as important as the evening. [26:48] Yeah. [26:52] You've got top attachment point, if you need it, then it's easy, if you want a fence. [27:03] So I think what we're saying, let's leave it out for now, make that decision when we find [27:10] out. Let's get everything else done. I think it's more important we get the [27:14] concrete taken care of, we get to take a ball court finish, do we get the [27:18] landscaping back where it needs to be, use it to find out. So with the current [27:24] funds, the existing funds that the curb didn't take down, that'll need to come [27:29] down in the near future. [27:36] I don't know about you guys, but you know I've lived here [27:39] for, this is my sixth year, and I've hardly ever, the only time I've ever seen them being [27:47] used this during land days, and if it's not locked up, do we have a chance to get utilized [27:53] a little bit more? [27:54] It's been locked up. [27:56] That's the problem. [27:57] It's been locked up. [27:58] Yeah. [27:58] They're protecting the boat. [28:00] What? [28:00] Well, that's what I'm saying. [28:02] Yeah. [28:02] I think this may be our chance, actually, you listen to that a lot of people in there. [28:07] I think it's a great idea. [28:09] Yeah. [28:10] You need to concrete the other end, like you're doing in there, [28:14] and put some basketball hoops up for kids. [28:16] Yeah. [28:16] Put some in it. [28:17] Yeah. [28:18] That's a great idea. [28:19] Like Kim. [28:21] I tell you the reason this lockout now is there used to be basketball, [28:24] who's like both ends of that. [28:26] And those rounds and stuff just got poor pieces of kids coming in. [28:29] And from what I understand it didn't take very long to do it either. [28:33] I don't doubt that, but as a city, we can afford a $300 lifetime basketball standard if [28:42] a wonderful problem to have if they get abused because of abuse personally. [28:48] Well, an abused cycle is in there. [28:50] You have kids that tear stuff up and they cycle out. [28:53] Yeah. [28:54] Hopefully. [28:55] Well, and I think what a wonderful use of the park, here we're doing the pickleball for [29:01] the kids and for the people. [29:03] No, it's for old people like some of us around the state and they had some basketball [29:08] and they make it available. [29:10] You know, I don't even care if they paint off, I don't know, hopscotch, your foresquare [29:16] or whatever, and let them just use that as an activity center. [29:19] It's a great idea. [29:20] We need to do something to the kids. [29:27] Yeah, Cornwall is going to be a lot of you. [29:29] Paint off, quarterfold, yeah. [29:31] Exactly. [29:32] You just line it up and just put your box side. [29:34] And then nobody can argue. [29:36] No, that's not the end of the foot. [29:37] No, yeah, yeah. [29:38] Is the pick of all quarters of paint or is it like a... [29:42] My understanding is like a felt or something. [29:44] No, a little or else. [29:45] It's just... [29:46] I think it's just painted lines. [29:48] Yeah. [29:49] Right. [29:49] But you got to the whole other half that you can do. [29:51] Yeah, that's what I was talking about. [29:53] I'm just saying we got a tour up. [29:55] Did we have to replace the whole thing? [29:56] No. [29:57] I think just a good chance to make that a useful one. [30:04] One other thing, too, we're going to have a more likely a new police force that will be able to make rounds all through the night for any problems that may arise, that we could have them park there for a little while to keep let kids know that. [30:30] That's not there to be vandalized, you know? [30:34] Because all I have to do is pick up one kid or work to get out here and the word to get [30:42] out the next day or so. [30:46] And you already have cameras that feed in to, I mean, EPS design help you put in cameras [30:56] that report when there's a problem. [31:00] He does the EPS also does the outdoor if you wanted to look at something like that that [31:06] would just feed into a closed system and you just use it if you need it. [31:10] And sometimes those cameras, they stop a lot of the activity that... [31:16] Did you put up signs, this place is under surveillance? [31:19] Yeah. [31:20] In our old office building, we had one public entrance and in English and Spanish, we had a double [31:28] push bar on a English and Spanish at the push bar. It said, look up, you've already been [31:33] recorded and I had a ding. And I had a camera pointing, it was like from here to the wall [31:39] and I mounted the TV screen up there. They pushed the door open, ding, read it, English and Spanish [31:46] they'd look up and there's their face, not one security issue. [31:51] Well, our house in Taylor'sville, because of who I married to, we had four different [31:57] kinds of cameras. [31:58] They were all in beta tests, though the whole front of our house looked like a security [32:02] system. [32:04] Everybody's cars would get broken into besides our neighbors. [32:08] I think we've all noticed that since Ring Doorbells and whatnot, the doorbell vision [32:13] has stopped. [32:15] You know? [32:16] Unless you get a cranky old man who shoots the poor kid. [32:19] Yeah, that's not good, but at any rate, I'm sorry, just boiled out, but the point is, well, [32:25] like, yeah. [32:27] Okay, so we leave the fences down. [32:30] Yes. [32:31] Okay. [32:32] I still think you need that. [32:34] The net. [32:35] The net. [32:35] Yeah. [32:36] Well, I know what I put down. [32:38] Hold any new fence, you know, any kind in advance. [32:41] Like you said, let's see if we really need it. [32:44] If we need it, I would be a proponent. [32:46] I don't know that we need to go all the way up. Just do a four-foot fence around it if we need it. [32:54] And that would hold the balls in and make it easy. [32:59] And it would keep the four wheelers and motorcycles off, but they would still be able to use the place. [33:08] And over in Marone, they have basketball hoops that they don't have nets on them. [33:12] And then there's big signs behind them that say no hanging or I don't know what it's called when you they have a formal name for it [33:20] But I'm not a sports person, so and they still have theirs [33:23] Well those two behind the old city building are still there. Yeah [33:31] They were there in 1941 I think [33:37] Do we need to discuss the [33:40] Good police department or [33:42] It was not on the agenda for the day or not, but it will be on a council night at [33:55] 6 o'clock, so it'll be in the public hearing before the camp. [34:02] Chief Gray. [34:03] Okay, can't remember. It's gray is this first name or last name, do you know? [34:07] Okay, it's a black name. [34:08] Is it, you know, okay, Chief Gray is going to be there. He's called me two or three times. [34:14] Who covers whales? [34:19] They kind of do. That's exact the words because they're not formal. [34:25] But they cover it if there's a problem. [34:28] So the sheriff doesn't have to agree to do that. [34:32] Well, this kind of on their own. [34:36] pitch and land. [34:39] They're pretty round. They're right here. [34:43] Yeah, I talked to Jared. He [34:46] candided my class. He said, how do you feel about him, Rowan? I told him how he said their [34:51] business. He didn't have any harsh feelings, but he said it worked out really good because [34:55] he said, coincidentally, I had a deputy quit and I won't replace him. He said, what happens [35:01] if fountain green pulls out? Then I got to do some rebudging. That's all I said. But he didn't [35:06] and how many harsh feelings about it all? [35:10] No, I've been told that they really don't care. [35:14] One way or the other. [35:15] Well, that's why asked who's coming Wales, [35:17] because they wouldn't want to cover us. [35:20] All these miles in between if Wales [35:22] wasn't a pass-through for them, [35:24] a revenue pass-through for them. [35:26] Wales will be in case of problems. [35:34] Are we, Jared? [35:35] It's somebody needs to. [35:36] I would make a motion that we close this. [35:38] Can I bring one more thing up? [35:40] After the last city council, I had several people ask me what we're doing with [35:46] cascades. [35:48] And so the words are already out and I was told he was hit with the [35:52] major fire. No. Really? There's that one. Again guys, I hate to do this. There's too [36:00] many of you here. You can't discuss this. This is not part of our emergency meeting. [36:04] Yep, it's not part of the issue. [36:07] That's fine, I guess it was interesting how it was asked [36:12] to meet by several people. [36:14] And in a honesty, you can say there's been my knowledge, [36:19] no decision, and no discussion in any of our meetings [36:22] other than what was in the council. [36:25] I said, I don't know what happened. [36:27] And that covers you in a honesty. [36:29] And that's the way we need to handle it. [36:31] The rumor mill around here's crazy. [36:33] I would make a motion that we close this emergency work meeting. [36:39] Second. [36:41] All in favor? [36:42] Aye. [36:43] Yes. [36:46] Let it be closed.