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come here

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okay I'm going to call the uh February
22nd Recreation committee

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um the agenda is uh on the table for
those

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um
like

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this was looking at some neighborhood
and borrowing some of the things

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of it so you want to start with
lifeguard first

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okay
so the um

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my overview of the uh
of the description yeah

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um

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that uh

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there are
words

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this week
um no yeah

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one of the other things

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like yeah

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applications

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um

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um

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really
okay

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so as long as you have it I mean

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foreign
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I I don't care yeah

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don't really go into the filter room or
at least use those items that just the

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pool manager and the headlight guard
would be testing the equipment and

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or whatever
but the actual

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vacuuming the pool is is maintenance

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vacuuming the pool is done currently by
Public Works

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yeah there are a number of places that
the colors do that you know if I push my

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button
um there's a number of places where the

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guards do that prior to like the start
of their shifts so you know that's one

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of those things that I when I looked
around like maybe that's not something

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we require but if it's something we
could potentially ask them I'd sooner

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advertise that up front as a hey you
know as you progress in your lifeguard

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Duty you may be asked to you know we'll
help we'll show you how to run the

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vacuum

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every morning

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currently it's done by Public Works
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Public Works has been doing this for a
few years yeah they do it that's what

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they do every morning so yeah I mean
that's and that's one of the when we get

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to the schedule and some of the thoughts
of the activities that's one of the the

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challenges in fitting everything in is
that you know the morning duties of

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Public Works to get the pool operational
and ready to go every day certainly take

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some time so and Manpower yeah

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I mean
well I think that's probably a special

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Public Works
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use my microphone I know when we used to
do it there were sometimes issues with

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getting the pumps to work for vacuuming
and I don't know how much responsibility

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we want to put of that onto young
younger

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lifeguards I think it's probably
something full manager and head

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lifeguards could handle I mean I
definitely think it's something

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lifeguards can handle because we did it
but it's also up to Public Works on who

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they want touching the equipment yeah
and I think this year is probably going

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to be a slow learning curve because the
reality is we're probably not going to

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have anyone or very few people who have
been here before it's not like we're

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having repeat folks coming back like
hopefully we will in the future so I

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would sooner ease into as you have folks
who are willing to take on more

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responsibility and show that they can do
that starting to learn some of those

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things from Jason and his staff that all
right here's how we do this every

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morning and that may be something that
we take off of Public Works to enable

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them to you know paint more alleys and
do some of the other work that's out

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there so okay yeah that can be a work in
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well right now Jason's the only one
certified

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anything

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yeah how many do you normally put out
there I don't like vacuums

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Jason how many guys how many guys you
usually put up there in the morning when

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it was
up so normally it would be one or two

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guys
myself and somebody else possibly a

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third guy depending on what had to be
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all right I guess um

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so the headlight card position is is
kind of like a step between the

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Lifeguard and the cool manager acts as
the pool manager when the pool manager

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is off
um so the idea is to either have a

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headlight guard on duty in charge or the
pool manager on duty in charge

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um
obviously the headlife guard

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um we usually had two of them hired
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responsibility would also have the same

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would not necessarily be responsible for
scheduling that would fall under the

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purview of the manager but for following
up with scheduling and if somebody calls

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out sick be responsible for getting
coverage as needed

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in the absence of having the pool
manager on again pretty much everything

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follows exactly is the lifer
this person would have access I think to

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the filter room because they would be
acting as the pool manager when the pool

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manager wasn't there and they would have
to test the water periodically so a

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couple of things that I saw from other
places that um

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I would sit in here that we could
certainly strike but uh lifeguard

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instructor water safety instructor
preferred so certainly not required but

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if we can attract folks Additionally the
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obviously that may not be from here but
if we can get some folks with a

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competitive pay we're offering to come
with experience for these head positions

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that would certainly be uh absolutely
very good for the borough

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right absolutely
um yeah I think it's pretty much

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self-explanatory does anybody in the
gallery have any questions

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moving along then to the pool manager

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um again we have listed 18 years of age
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I don't think that really matters I mean
if they have the experience and they had

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a time to do full management

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um and then did you find a job
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a younger person might take a little bit
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experience but I think it'd be fine yeah

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yeah we left if you look I mean it's got
preferred in there so right yeah again I

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don't you know the right candidate at 17
or 16 even though right

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yeah and I think another key thing to
notice is that they would be responsible

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for scheduling and maintaining lifeguard
drills and training periodically

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throughout the summer just to make sure
everybody's

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up-to-date and active and paying
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you don't practice the skills they go
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pretty self-centered

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what I've seen previously or

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experience and then the last one then is
the whole cashier

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and we do have 16 years of age consider
lowering that to 15. applicants

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okay

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you could work at 14 so I don't know
though yeah if you're handling money

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what the but we can certainly get an
official opinion on that okay

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people come with cash quite a bit they
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really
because it was all cash

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it's supposed to pass citizen uh well
the last year we did it we didn't have

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any passes because we had a late season
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um but beforehand it was still mostly
cash I would say on a

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what maybe 10 out of 30 people were
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think we sold very many passes that that
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covenants as someone who never carries
cash I'm amazed at the amount of people

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who pay their bills at the window with
cash and so I mean it's still a there's

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still a lot of the population that does
that so and and the other thing being we

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charge our credit card processor charges
us at three percent service fees so you

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know obviously being small we pass that
along so that would be the same hurdle

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with I'm sure we'd run into up there in
the days of you know having a uh I can't

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think of

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that's the one I was thinking of you
know those types of things then you need

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a tablet yeah yeah

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so and again this I went off of what we
had and what we what other places had

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when I did some research but having not
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um certainly anyone who's worked in that
capacity or worked at the pool who

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recognizes that there are things on here
that you know may have been How It Was

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Written but not how things are done I
open to any and all suggestions to

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change that it was a little hard for me
again just because I don't have the

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perspective of being here for a season
with the pool

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had to do previously so
um nothing crazier out of the

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vet would not necessarily be
part of a pressure job

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any questions from her
what are we paying them twelve twelve

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dollars yeah man what's the manager 25.

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and 18 for a life better is what's
proposed so okay now and again we'll go

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through a lot of this discussion with
the full body of council tonight but you

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know
preliminarily that's where we were kind

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of at to be competitive so
um that's what I'm saying would it would

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it
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s for your Outreach if I instead of
doing an executive summary for each one

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of these if we did like a
one sheet for all four like all the

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different positions we're hiring for
with a brief blurb and a brief and he

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you know I'm just saying this is fairly
long you know for a job or that I'm only

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looking for an executive summary then
they could reference the whatever you

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have online here well and that's what
I'm wondering is if I just don't put

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Fountain Hill pools hiring for the
following positions full manager 25 an

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hour and a quick blur these and then
you've got to refer to that you've got a

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one sheet and then yeah go to our
website where these are all posted and

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you don't have to carry around a piece
of paper I tried to keep them close to

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two pages but you know it's it gets
somebody nicer they're detailed enough

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that it is what it is yeah you're right
but I can do that

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as well as we present
once all the descriptions go to yeah

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exactly I'll put them on the website but
then we'll get something out there

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that's eye-catching enough that says
here's what we're hiring for here's the

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rates go here for more information and
even put a QR code on it that links to

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our website it's a great one perfect
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I'm happy to promote this to

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um pay rates I think we've kind of
coverage the same thing yeah so the next

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thing on the agenda is volunteer
low-tech labor for repairs

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I know we talked a little bit about at
the last council meeting

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um and it doesn't seem to be the
opposition especially for the the votech

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side but also you know rolling into the
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volunteers to to do the caulking what I
guess I don't really even really need a

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motion tonight but
um I would like to go ahead then and add

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that 300 Insurance to our policy and
then officially open the dialogue

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through whoever Mr zapko's contact is at
votech to you know get this moving

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forward

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update we've talked to the tech on
Friday and talk to all the teachers

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on a Friday morning and there's a lot of
opportunities for these young people

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with their supervising faculty members
to come and do work you know literally

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at no cost over community service or if
there is a cost is very minimal for

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example with the caulking thing I talked
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the instructor from The Masonry
and he's very interested in having his

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people do that as well now the Coalition
is basically one of finding this for you

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okay and then delivering that contact
and facilitating that conversation to

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make that go forward
we're we're going to be where we are

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certified now is people that can
uh award community service hours to the

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students I don't know if you are enough
you are great if you're not yeah if you

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are good if not okay what I'm getting at
is the kids can get

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there okay so uh there's a number of
different opportunities here and again

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this is what I'm going to call young
people doing labor under supervision you

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know this is not they're not putting
intellectual panels

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okay but there's a lot of opportunity
here and we can Avail ourselves for it

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about it and you know gets a good skills
and help our local kids learn to learn a

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trade I mean I don't know how this is
not Illuminating so yeah no I agree and

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then I think that's you know my hope for
tonight and as you and I discuss this

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and then we'll wake up with
their folks and honestly that's a

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conversation to kind of put that into
touch with Jesus

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responsibility
you need yourselves

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so that is
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and then our plan now is to pull down
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a d freeze
um so that it will get painted and um

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and then we will fill it and try and
determine if we still have a lead

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problem because we have to leave a
problem we do we do right now

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we're putting all that water in it
we're just going to let it go down and

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years

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drinking

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um and just working smart enough to get
everything on a timeline to be able to

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open so
okay her potential partnership training

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so
uh I believe the coalition

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per student so we have as many seats as

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we want and as long as they have four in
there the person I have all the

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the question is whether we want to uh
provide some sort of funding assistance

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for that or if the

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to school
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I mean options
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budgeted

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in budget and my fear is worthy if you
open that door

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eign

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thank you
leave it off the table

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you know business for dead okay

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okay

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yeah I I think one year two years gets a
little bit harder with folks because I

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mean even if you're talking to the kids
you know your Dynamic changes

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I think a one-year commitment is
well even if you didn't

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you know as long as you say that you
know I don't know how forceful that is

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but at least I think okay
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who knows

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yeah

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but I know that one of the other
communities what they were dealing with

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was mini and designated hour
amount of hours served

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yeah
um

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right yeah

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it was based on a season they had to
provide so many hours per season

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in order

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yes

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in anticipation of this we've been out
on the streets

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we're really interested in this
possibility okay so we're in a meeting

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tomorrow

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yes

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they're strong

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yeah let me
just an email

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so I'm looking going over it it seems
that it will stay starting at 8 am

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um the only
um with

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a Saturday I don't see anything on the
grassy here we are in pool until 10 a.m

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and same for Saturday but for Monday
through Friday I do see pool activities

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so so why don't we put it this way as
the ultimate manager of the pool

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that's the proposed okay so should you
say well you know guys it's not really

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working and you know we want to make a
nine o'clock or you want to make sure

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you want to make that and it doesn't
have to be

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you know in the swimming lessons which I
hope to lead okay that can't be the

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entire song okay so many lessons a few
weeks you know usually okay so it's

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really really flexible the the the the
idea that was giving you a menu of

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things
that we could offer okay that we think

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people would be interested in all ages
so we have the details of that

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details of that are essentially you know
how the thing works out

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but the only Village caveat of that is
we have people that are willing to

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instruct those things
on a cost basis okay I think uh explain

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what that means so
and how they would work is essentially

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to you I mean

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um I think all of these ingredient ideas

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become
yoga all these all these days

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in the Democracy area

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yeah

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citizens

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but what about other people who work
here today

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right well so the best thing is just
saying is that this is just a proposal

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it's not even like

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scheduling about doing classes in the
evening as well for people who were

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if I wanted to like a acquisitical class
at six o'clock yeah

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it's a little bit more energy
well the awkward Zumba class essentially

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would be that I would say the
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okay so again I think also the hotel is

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all of those are possible yeah
you know whether we have them all or not

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you know I consider half of them

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Jason has
yeah

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the early mornings for me creates a
problem okay what time do you need what

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time would say 11 o'clock would be the
earliest anyone

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what time do we normally open in the
past

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okay

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I mean I don't know what the physical
shape of the burrow is but I don't think

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there's a lot of people that age around
to be doing Aqua Zumba for more than

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they are yeah

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brown stuff
again that's up to you too there's well

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my thinking is is that I'm going to say
70 of the people that might take

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advantage of this
won't be going in the water yeah okay

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I appreciate the proposal I like the
idea of these classes and swimming

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lessons
different types of classes

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but yeah
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yeah that was my only reason for for
putting it up here today is not that we

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need to sell this out but more just to
evolve into the conversation just to

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understand
how their morning routine goes and

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everything because again
I had a beer for a summer that I was

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open when I've been here for a summer
yeah only last year

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Jason one of the other question is the
pool manager I know we've always died

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with this in regards to
who who decides whether the pool is open

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for the day

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are you talking about weather or so
weather yeah

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like there was always on
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someone in the discussion in regards to
who's making that call

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you know three people four people
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that person was also in my experience
usually some of the older probably a

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teacher
um who you know was experienced and

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running and having discipline and doing
that and then the lives of over managing

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which is totally fine but there was
always some the person that made the

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decision at Dubai wasn't necessarily
understanding what was happening here so

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they would need to communicate and then
there would be people who would be upset

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because the Y was making that decision
Paul there's a lot of miscommunication I

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think that will eliminate some of that
with hiring somebody directly who will

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be
have a direct

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kind of communication Berkeley tomorrow
Hall if they have questions today those

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decisions are being takes another setup
and if we hire somebody who has a lot of

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experience in his older and is
responsible and understands the demands

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of making sure safe over the cold but
also making sure it's not complete money

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Jason and the pool manager and and we're
the headlight for the pool managers that

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they were we test again and if somebody
gets wrong they contact Jason

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and how many guys did you know who's
going to take a test or something so I'm

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going to be honest with you
we're working on our core with the guys

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so the core and then the category I
believe it's 24. yeah uh is an

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additional Rider which they need so they
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they may have the core in the next
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but they won't have the category yet
because they haven't got anything all

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right that's how I incentivized the
Public Works guys to go I told them I'll

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take it with him so we're gonna go

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so if I go on vacation or I'm sick or
I'm anything the pool Junction

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around

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any other questions about pool
all right

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um I reviewed some of the um information
and registration for I don't have any

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questions as any of it at all seems very
you know yeah I think she did a

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wonderful job of it so

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one of the one of the other points of
discussion that

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she had asked me about is
excuse me that uh that nine o'clock

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end time at night is very dark for a lot
of small kids that are walking home

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without parental supervision
so she had asked and and I don't know

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how this would be received but doing a
almost like a 9 to 12 break for lunch

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one to four kind of all day thing
versus the evening where it gets late

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because she her feedback was there were
a lot of kids that were wandering home

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in the dark at night
um again I don't I don't have the

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historical perspective of the evening
program and and how entrenched it is but

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I did say I would bring that up to her
yeah I we always kind of did it split

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because kids tend to go to the parks
program in the morning with swimming

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leave her alone eat dinner

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yeah and last year probably scooted a
little bit without the pool so you know

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you certainly have that and again I told
her you know I certainly I have no dog

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in the fight to be perfectly honest so I
would bring it up here I do get the

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Merit of yeah the concern with the 9 pm
shutdown but again if you move it five

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to eight that's dinner hour so I don't
know maybe we do that and try and see

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how many kids show up at five o'clock
maybe they eat their early dinner

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um just to avoid that nine o'clock
because I mean it is it's really dark

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and again I I just I told her I would
you know pass that along and based on

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her feedback but again last year was
kind of an outlier because

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excuse me we didn't have the pool so you
know you had a lot of kids who milled

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around for the afternoon so

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I know
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comments and they were when they went
out I just have one last question

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you know we indeed want to get going on
this we have been doing this in

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anticipation okay of a full opening uh
is there maybe the tonight's the night

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you're doing it I mean when can we move
ahead when can so we're going to present

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these uh job descriptions tonight at
Council okay review and then

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um probably we can vote on them tonight
if we can do that right yeah it's an

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agenda item so I mean certainly it's not
it's not it's under old business but I

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mean we certainly can decide to take
action on them and I mean I don't even

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know honestly if we need a formal vote
for

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just reviewing and consensus of you know
putting a job description out there but

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I mean my goal would be to to get them
after this as long as yeah okay yeah

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are you
um we wasn't here

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um so it's just you and I as the core
I'm

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as long as you're okay with these job
descriptions I'm happy to recommend that

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you accept them if

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so as long as counselor stepson okay
fine by the way if we post on anything

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on a job board Eric I'll make sure
you're copied on all of that okay so you

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know what's coming okay just yeah making
sure everybody knows what yeah and the

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easiest thing to do is is you know yeah
honestly

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steer them to the website
um I would like to get to the point

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where we automate our application it's
on my list of technology to update so

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hopefully sooner than later so you know
feel feel comfortable with it

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you'll be notified no hey the more the
merrier so I appreciate that

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anything else for privilege

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um

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thanks everyone thank you
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I know can you give me these electronic
right oh yeah