[0:00] come here
[0:11] okay I'm going to call the uh February
22nd Recreation committee
[0:18] um the agenda is uh on the table for
those
[0:26] um
like
[0:40] this was looking at some neighborhood
and borrowing some of the things
[0:54] of it so you want to start with
lifeguard first
[1:07] okay
so the um
[1:16] my overview of the uh
of the description yeah
[1:23] [Music]
[1:28] um
[1:56] that uh
[2:00] there are
words
[2:04] this week
um no yeah
[2:07] one of the other things
[2:11] [Music]
[2:17] like yeah
[2:30] applications
[2:45] um
[2:48] [Music]
um
[3:17] really
okay
[3:21] so as long as you have it I mean
[3:33] foreign
[Applause]
[3:50] I I don't care yeah
[4:07] [Music]
[4:17] don't really go into the filter room or
at least use those items that just the
[4:24] pool manager and the headlight guard
would be testing the equipment and
[4:30] [Music]
[4:35] or whatever
but the actual
[4:40] vacuuming the pool is is maintenance
[4:46] vacuuming the pool is done currently by
Public Works
[4:54] yeah there are a number of places that
the colors do that you know if I push my
[4:59] button
um there's a number of places where the
[5:01] guards do that prior to like the start
of their shifts so you know that's one
[5:05] of those things that I when I looked
around like maybe that's not something
[5:08] we require but if it's something we
could potentially ask them I'd sooner
[5:12] advertise that up front as a hey you
know as you progress in your lifeguard
[5:16] Duty you may be asked to you know we'll
help we'll show you how to run the
[5:19] vacuum
[5:22] every morning
[5:28] currently it's done by Public Works
yeah
[5:33] Public Works has been doing this for a
few years yeah they do it that's what
[5:36] they do every morning so yeah I mean
that's and that's one of the when we get
[5:40] to the schedule and some of the thoughts
of the activities that's one of the the
[5:44] challenges in fitting everything in is
that you know the morning duties of
[5:48] Public Works to get the pool operational
and ready to go every day certainly take
[5:54] some time so and Manpower yeah
[6:01] I mean
well I think that's probably a special
[6:05] Public Works
um I know when we
[6:09] use my microphone I know when we used to
do it there were sometimes issues with
[6:13] getting the pumps to work for vacuuming
and I don't know how much responsibility
[6:18] we want to put of that onto young
younger
[6:22] lifeguards I think it's probably
something full manager and head
[6:27] lifeguards could handle I mean I
definitely think it's something
[6:30] lifeguards can handle because we did it
but it's also up to Public Works on who
[6:35] they want touching the equipment yeah
and I think this year is probably going
[6:37] to be a slow learning curve because the
reality is we're probably not going to
[6:41] have anyone or very few people who have
been here before it's not like we're
[6:45] having repeat folks coming back like
hopefully we will in the future so I
[6:49] would sooner ease into as you have folks
who are willing to take on more
[6:52] responsibility and show that they can do
that starting to learn some of those
[6:56] things from Jason and his staff that all
right here's how we do this every
[7:00] morning and that may be something that
we take off of Public Works to enable
[7:04] them to you know paint more alleys and
do some of the other work that's out
[7:08] there so okay yeah that can be a work in
progress
[7:16] well right now Jason's the only one
certified
[7:19] anything
[7:24] yeah how many do you normally put out
there I don't like vacuums
[7:28] Jason how many guys how many guys you
usually put up there in the morning when
[7:32] it was
up so normally it would be one or two
[7:37] guys
myself and somebody else possibly a
[7:41] third guy depending on what had to be
done
[7:48] all right I guess um
[8:16] so the headlight card position is is
kind of like a step between the
[8:20] Lifeguard and the cool manager acts as
the pool manager when the pool manager
[8:25] is off
um so the idea is to either have a
[8:28] headlight guard on duty in charge or the
pool manager on duty in charge
[8:33] um
obviously the headlife guard
[8:37] um we usually had two of them hired
um takes on a little bit more
[8:41] responsibility would also have the same
[8:46] would not necessarily be responsible for
scheduling that would fall under the
[8:49] purview of the manager but for following
up with scheduling and if somebody calls
[8:54] out sick be responsible for getting
coverage as needed
[8:58] in the absence of having the pool
manager on again pretty much everything
[9:03] follows exactly is the lifer
this person would have access I think to
[9:08] the filter room because they would be
acting as the pool manager when the pool
[9:12] manager wasn't there and they would have
to test the water periodically so a
[9:15] couple of things that I saw from other
places that um
[9:19] I would sit in here that we could
certainly strike but uh lifeguard
[9:22] instructor water safety instructor
preferred so certainly not required but
[9:26] if we can attract folks Additionally the
two seasons of paid lifeguard experience
[9:31] obviously that may not be from here but
if we can get some folks with a
[9:35] competitive pay we're offering to come
with experience for these head positions
[9:40] that would certainly be uh absolutely
very good for the borough
[9:45] right absolutely
um yeah I think it's pretty much
[9:50] self-explanatory does anybody in the
gallery have any questions
[9:56] moving along then to the pool manager
[10:01] um again we have listed 18 years of age
but
[10:05] I don't think that really matters I mean
if they have the experience and they had
[10:09] a time to do full management
[10:14] um and then did you find a job
so
[10:22] a younger person might take a little bit
more Hands-On
[10:28] um
experience but I think it'd be fine yeah
[10:31] yeah we left if you look I mean it's got
preferred in there so right yeah again I
[10:36] don't you know the right candidate at 17
or 16 even though right
[10:44] yeah and I think another key thing to
notice is that they would be responsible
[10:48] for scheduling and maintaining lifeguard
drills and training periodically
[10:53] throughout the summer just to make sure
everybody's
[10:56] up-to-date and active and paying
attention
[10:59] you don't practice the skills they go
away
[11:07] pretty self-centered
[11:10] what I've seen previously or
[11:15] experience and then the last one then is
the whole cashier
[11:22] and we do have 16 years of age consider
lowering that to 15. applicants
[11:32] okay
[11:39] you could work at 14 so I don't know
though yeah if you're handling money
[11:44] what the but we can certainly get an
official opinion on that okay
[11:50] people come with cash quite a bit they
do
[11:55] really
because it was all cash
[11:59] it's supposed to pass citizen uh well
the last year we did it we didn't have
[12:04] any passes because we had a late season
yeah
[12:08] um but beforehand it was still mostly
cash I would say on a
[12:12] what maybe 10 out of 30 people were
that would have passes yeah I don't
[12:19] think we sold very many passes that that
previous summer before
[12:23] covenants as someone who never carries
cash I'm amazed at the amount of people
[12:27] who pay their bills at the window with
cash and so I mean it's still a there's
[12:30] still a lot of the population that does
that so and and the other thing being we
[12:34] charge our credit card processor charges
us at three percent service fees so you
[12:39] know obviously being small we pass that
along so that would be the same hurdle
[12:43] with I'm sure we'd run into up there in
the days of you know having a uh I can't
[12:48] think of
[12:51] that's the one I was thinking of you
know those types of things then you need
[12:55] a tablet yeah yeah
[13:02] so and again this I went off of what we
had and what we what other places had
[13:09] when I did some research but having not
been here during the whole open
[13:14] um certainly anyone who's worked in that
capacity or worked at the pool who
[13:19] recognizes that there are things on here
that you know may have been How It Was
[13:23] Written but not how things are done I
open to any and all suggestions to
[13:29] change that it was a little hard for me
again just because I don't have the
[13:33] perspective of being here for a season
with the pool
[13:40] had to do previously so
um nothing crazier out of the
[13:47] vet would not necessarily be
part of a pressure job
[13:52] any questions from her
what are we paying them twelve twelve
[13:58] dollars yeah man what's the manager 25.
[14:07] and 18 for a life better is what's
proposed so okay now and again we'll go
[14:12] through a lot of this discussion with
the full body of council tonight but you
[14:15] know
preliminarily that's where we were kind
[14:19] of at to be competitive so
um that's what I'm saying would it would
[14:23] it
benefit
[14:25] s for your Outreach if I instead of
doing an executive summary for each one
[14:30] of these if we did like a
one sheet for all four like all the
[14:36] different positions we're hiring for
with a brief blurb and a brief and he
[14:40] you know I'm just saying this is fairly
long you know for a job or that I'm only
[14:44] looking for an executive summary then
they could reference the whatever you
[14:49] have online here well and that's what
I'm wondering is if I just don't put
[14:51] Fountain Hill pools hiring for the
following positions full manager 25 an
[14:55] hour and a quick blur these and then
you've got to refer to that you've got a
[15:00] one sheet and then yeah go to our
website where these are all posted and
[15:04] you don't have to carry around a piece
of paper I tried to keep them close to
[15:07] two pages but you know it's it gets
somebody nicer they're detailed enough
[15:11] that it is what it is yeah you're right
but I can do that
[15:17] as well as we present
once all the descriptions go to yeah
[15:21] exactly I'll put them on the website but
then we'll get something out there
[15:24] that's eye-catching enough that says
here's what we're hiring for here's the
[15:27] rates go here for more information and
even put a QR code on it that links to
[15:31] our website it's a great one perfect
yeah
[15:41] I'm happy to promote this to
[15:53] um pay rates I think we've kind of
coverage the same thing yeah so the next
[15:58] thing on the agenda is volunteer
low-tech labor for repairs
[16:03] I know we talked a little bit about at
the last council meeting
[16:07] um and it doesn't seem to be the
opposition especially for the the votech
[16:11] side but also you know rolling into the
uh
[16:15] volunteers to to do the caulking what I
guess I don't really even really need a
[16:20] motion tonight but
um I would like to go ahead then and add
[16:24] that 300 Insurance to our policy and
then officially open the dialogue
[16:30] through whoever Mr zapko's contact is at
votech to you know get this moving
[16:37] forward
[16:40] update we've talked to the tech on
Friday and talk to all the teachers
[16:46] on a Friday morning and there's a lot of
opportunities for these young people
[16:54] with their supervising faculty members
to come and do work you know literally
[16:59] at no cost over community service or if
there is a cost is very minimal for
[17:04] example with the caulking thing I talked
with the
[17:08] the instructor from The Masonry
and he's very interested in having his
[17:13] people do that as well now the Coalition
is basically one of finding this for you
[17:19] okay and then delivering that contact
and facilitating that conversation to
[17:25] make that go forward
we're we're going to be where we are
[17:29] certified now is people that can
uh award community service hours to the
[17:35] students I don't know if you are enough
you are great if you're not yeah if you
[17:39] are good if not okay what I'm getting at
is the kids can get
[17:42] there okay so uh there's a number of
different opportunities here and again
[17:48] this is what I'm going to call young
people doing labor under supervision you
[17:52] know this is not they're not putting
intellectual panels
[17:57] okay but there's a lot of opportunity
here and we can Avail ourselves for it
[18:03] about it and you know gets a good skills
and help our local kids learn to learn a
[18:09] trade I mean I don't know how this is
not Illuminating so yeah no I agree and
[18:15] then I think that's you know my hope for
tonight and as you and I discuss this
[18:18] and then we'll wake up with
their folks and honestly that's a
[18:23] conversation to kind of put that into
touch with Jesus
[18:29] [Music]
[18:33] responsibility
you need yourselves
[19:08] that's
[19:15] um
[19:27] [Music]
[19:34] so that is
um should it be done
[19:38] uh
[19:47] and then our plan now is to pull down
because
[19:53] a d freeze
um so that it will get painted and um
[20:03] and then we will fill it and try and
determine if we still have a lead
[20:10] problem because we have to leave a
problem we do we do right now
[20:16] we're putting all that water in it
we're just going to let it go down and
[20:21] peace
[20:28] [Music]
[20:33] years
[20:57] drinking
[21:03] um and just working smart enough to get
everything on a timeline to be able to
[21:07] open so
okay her potential partnership training
[21:13] so
uh I believe the coalition
[21:33] um
per student so we have as many seats as
[21:37] we want and as long as they have four in
there the person I have all the
[21:42] information
[21:45] um
[21:47] the question is whether we want to uh
provide some sort of funding assistance
[21:54] for that or if the
[22:02] to school
um
[22:15] uh
[22:20] I mean options
there so
[22:26] um
[22:38] budgeted
[22:44] [Music]
[23:00] in budget and my fear is worthy if you
open that door
[23:07] for
[23:13] eign
[23:32] thank you
leave it off the table
[23:36] T
[23:39] [Music]
um
[24:06] [Music]
[24:27] [Music]
[24:43] you know business for dead okay
[24:48] okay
[24:55] yeah I I think one year two years gets a
little bit harder with folks because I
[25:00] mean even if you're talking to the kids
you know your Dynamic changes
[25:17] I think a one-year commitment is
well even if you didn't
[25:25] you know as long as you say that you
know I don't know how forceful that is
[25:29] but at least I think okay
[Music]
[25:33] who knows
[25:40] yeah
[25:48] but I know that one of the other
communities what they were dealing with
[25:51] was mini and designated hour
amount of hours served
[25:58] yeah
um
[26:01] right yeah
[26:05] it was based on a season they had to
provide so many hours per season
[26:11] in order
[26:16] yes
[26:20] in anticipation of this we've been out
on the streets
[26:26] we're really interested in this
possibility okay so we're in a meeting
[26:32] tomorrow
[26:36] yes
[26:40] they're strong
[26:48] [Music]
[26:53] yeah let me
just an email
[27:15] so I'm looking going over it it seems
that it will stay starting at 8 am
[27:22] um the only
um with
[27:26] a Saturday I don't see anything on the
grassy here we are in pool until 10 a.m
[27:32] and same for Saturday but for Monday
through Friday I do see pool activities
[27:47] so so why don't we put it this way as
the ultimate manager of the pool
[27:52] that's the proposed okay so should you
say well you know guys it's not really
[27:58] working and you know we want to make a
nine o'clock or you want to make sure
[28:02] you want to make that and it doesn't
have to be
[28:05] you know in the swimming lessons which I
hope to lead okay that can't be the
[28:09] entire song okay so many lessons a few
weeks you know usually okay so it's
[28:16] really really flexible the the the the
idea that was giving you a menu of
[28:21] things
that we could offer okay that we think
[28:26] people would be interested in all ages
so we have the details of that
[28:31] details of that are essentially you know
how the thing works out
[28:35] but the only Village caveat of that is
we have people that are willing to
[28:40] instruct those things
on a cost basis okay I think uh explain
[28:46] what that means so
and how they would work is essentially
[28:54] to you I mean
[28:58] um I think all of these ingredient ideas
[29:08] become
yoga all these all these days
[29:11] in the Democracy area
[29:14] yeah
[29:25] citizens
[29:28] but what about other people who work
here today
[29:32] right well so the best thing is just
saying is that this is just a proposal
[29:36] it's not even like
[29:44] scheduling about doing classes in the
evening as well for people who were
[29:50] if I wanted to like a acquisitical class
at six o'clock yeah
[29:55] it's a little bit more energy
well the awkward Zumba class essentially
[30:01] would be that I would say the
um
[30:04] okay so again I think also the hotel is
[30:15] [Music]
[30:35] all of those are possible yeah
you know whether we have them all or not
[30:41] you know I consider half of them
[30:45] Jason has
yeah
[30:49] the early mornings for me creates a
problem okay what time do you need what
[30:55] time would say 11 o'clock would be the
earliest anyone
[30:58] what time do we normally open in the
past
[31:01] okay
[31:11] I mean I don't know what the physical
shape of the burrow is but I don't think
[31:16] there's a lot of people that age around
to be doing Aqua Zumba for more than
[31:21] they are yeah
[31:35] brown stuff
again that's up to you too there's well
[31:40] my thinking is is that I'm going to say
70 of the people that might take
[31:45] advantage of this
won't be going in the water yeah okay
[31:53] I appreciate the proposal I like the
idea of these classes and swimming
[31:59] lessons
different types of classes
[32:05] but yeah
um
[32:09] yeah that was my only reason for for
putting it up here today is not that we
[32:15] need to sell this out but more just to
evolve into the conversation just to
[32:20] understand
how their morning routine goes and
[32:23] everything because again
I had a beer for a summer that I was
[32:26] open when I've been here for a summer
yeah only last year
[32:29] Jason one of the other question is the
pool manager I know we've always died
[32:35] with this in regards to
who who decides whether the pool is open
[32:39] for the day
[32:47] are you talking about weather or so
weather yeah
[32:53] like there was always on
at least
[32:58] someone in the discussion in regards to
who's making that call
[33:07] you know three people four people
so I think that's one of the things
[33:14] right we had
[33:24] that person was also in my experience
usually some of the older probably a
[33:29] teacher
um who you know was experienced and
[33:33] running and having discipline and doing
that and then the lives of over managing
[33:38] which is totally fine but there was
always some the person that made the
[33:42] decision at Dubai wasn't necessarily
understanding what was happening here so
[33:47] they would need to communicate and then
there would be people who would be upset
[33:51] because the Y was making that decision
Paul there's a lot of miscommunication I
[33:56] think that will eliminate some of that
with hiring somebody directly who will
[34:01] be
have a direct
[34:03] kind of communication Berkeley tomorrow
Hall if they have questions today those
[34:07] decisions are being takes another setup
and if we hire somebody who has a lot of
[34:12] experience in his older and is
responsible and understands the demands
[34:16] of making sure safe over the cold but
also making sure it's not complete money
[34:23] foreign
[34:28] [Music]
10 minutes
[34:47] Jason and the pool manager and and we're
the headlight for the pool managers that
[34:54] they were we test again and if somebody
gets wrong they contact Jason
[34:59] and how many guys did you know who's
going to take a test or something so I'm
[35:03] going to be honest with you
we're working on our core with the guys
[35:08] so the core and then the category I
believe it's 24. yeah uh is an
[35:14] additional Rider which they need so they
may have
[35:17] they may have the core in the next
couple of months weeks
[35:21] but they won't have the category yet
because they haven't got anything all
[35:24] right that's how I incentivized the
Public Works guys to go I told them I'll
[35:28] take it with him so we're gonna go
[35:35] so if I go on vacation or I'm sick or
I'm anything the pool Junction
[35:41] around
[35:54] any other questions about pool
all right
[36:00] um I reviewed some of the um information
and registration for I don't have any
[36:05] questions as any of it at all seems very
you know yeah I think she did a
[36:10] wonderful job of it so
[36:19] one of the one of the other points of
discussion that
[36:23] she had asked me about is
excuse me that uh that nine o'clock
[36:31] end time at night is very dark for a lot
of small kids that are walking home
[36:36] without parental supervision
so she had asked and and I don't know
[36:42] how this would be received but doing a
almost like a 9 to 12 break for lunch
[36:48] one to four kind of all day thing
versus the evening where it gets late
[36:55] because she her feedback was there were
a lot of kids that were wandering home
[36:59] in the dark at night
um again I don't I don't have the
[37:03] historical perspective of the evening
program and and how entrenched it is but
[37:08] I did say I would bring that up to her
yeah I we always kind of did it split
[37:12] because kids tend to go to the parks
program in the morning with swimming
[37:17] leave her alone eat dinner
[37:25] yeah and last year probably scooted a
little bit without the pool so you know
[37:30] you certainly have that and again I told
her you know I certainly I have no dog
[37:34] in the fight to be perfectly honest so I
would bring it up here I do get the
[37:39] Merit of yeah the concern with the 9 pm
shutdown but again if you move it five
[37:44] to eight that's dinner hour so I don't
know maybe we do that and try and see
[37:49] how many kids show up at five o'clock
maybe they eat their early dinner
[37:52] um just to avoid that nine o'clock
because I mean it is it's really dark
[38:16] and again I I just I told her I would
you know pass that along and based on
[38:20] her feedback but again last year was
kind of an outlier because
[38:24] excuse me we didn't have the pool so you
know you had a lot of kids who milled
[38:28] around for the afternoon so
[38:37] I know
um
[38:40] comments and they were when they went
out I just have one last question
[38:44] you know we indeed want to get going on
this we have been doing this in
[38:49] anticipation okay of a full opening uh
is there maybe the tonight's the night
[38:56] you're doing it I mean when can we move
ahead when can so we're going to present
[39:01] these uh job descriptions tonight at
Council okay review and then
[39:08] um probably we can vote on them tonight
if we can do that right yeah it's an
[39:12] agenda item so I mean certainly it's not
it's not it's under old business but I
[39:16] mean we certainly can decide to take
action on them and I mean I don't even
[39:19] know honestly if we need a formal vote
for
[39:23] just reviewing and consensus of you know
putting a job description out there but
[39:27] I mean my goal would be to to get them
after this as long as yeah okay yeah
[39:34] are you
um we wasn't here
[39:39] um so it's just you and I as the core
I'm
[39:42] as long as you're okay with these job
descriptions I'm happy to recommend that
[39:47] you accept them if
[39:50] so as long as counselor stepson okay
fine by the way if we post on anything
[39:57] on a job board Eric I'll make sure
you're copied on all of that okay so you
[40:01] know what's coming okay just yeah making
sure everybody knows what yeah and the
[40:05] easiest thing to do is is you know yeah
honestly
[40:08] steer them to the website
um I would like to get to the point
[40:12] where we automate our application it's
on my list of technology to update so
[40:19] hopefully sooner than later so you know
feel feel comfortable with it
[40:23] you'll be notified no hey the more the
merrier so I appreciate that
[40:28] anything else for privilege
[40:33] um
[40:41] thanks everyone thank you
foreign
[41:13] [Music]
[41:18] I know can you give me these electronic
right oh yeah