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I think we need more volume.

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that should be it.

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Okay, that sounds better. Madam Clerk.

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In accordance with the Open Public Meeting Act of the State and New Jersey,

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adequate notice of this work session regularly meeting,

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with the Franklin Township Council was made as required,

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indicating that this meeting would take place at the municipal building at 7 p.m.

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on Tuesday, September 8, 2026.

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If we could all stand for the pleasure of legions, followed by the invocation, I

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constantly say.

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A pleasure legion through the flag of the United States of America, and through the

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Republic for which it stands.

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My nation, under God, individual, liberty and justice for all.

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Let us take the next few moments of silence to eat seek in our own way, whatever sources

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of inspiration will grant us the strength and power in our thoughts and decisions to be

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for the benefit of all people at all times. Amen. Amen.

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Madam Master Clerk, please call the rule.

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Councilman and Barerson. Yes. Councilwoman Franco here. Deputy Mayor Karazzi.

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Yeah. Mayor Cramer. Yes. Councilwoman O'Neill. Yes. Councilwoman O'Neill. Councilman

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Yes.

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Councilman Wright.

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We have three commendations in proclamations tonight.

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The first, by Dr. Karazzi, a very sincere awareness month proclamation.

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Tonight is microphone night.

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Good evening, everyone.

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I am the liaison for the Advisory Board of Health.

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And so I'd like to read this proclamation for a very

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cancer awareness month. Whereas a worrying cancer is the fifth leading cause of cancer related

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death among women in the United States. And the American Cancer Society estimates that in

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2026, approximately 21,10 women will be diagnosed with a worrying cancer and 12,450 will die from the

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these nationwide, including an estimated 650 new cases at 300 dead in New Jersey.

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And whereas a woman's lifetime, lifetime risk of being diagnosed with a worry and cancer

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is approximately one in 91.

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And her lifetime risk of dying from the disease is approximately one in 143.

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and whereas due to vague non-specific symptoms and the absence of reliable early detection

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test, the majority of the women are diagnosed at stage three or later. When the cancer

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has already spread beyond their ovaries and whereas although the five-year survival rate

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for stage one, where the incans are exceed 90%,

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only 15% of cases are diagnosed at this early stage.

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The five-year survival rate drops to below 30%.

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And whereas, while screening tools such as mammograms and pop tests exist for breast and cervical cancers,

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no equivalent screening tests exist for wearing cancer, make an awareness of symptoms and

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This factor is essential for early intervention and whereas increase public education, about

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wearing cancer can help save lives by promoting earlier diagnosis, support and access to

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gyneological oncology care and encourage and research funding for better detection and treatment

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options. And whereas during the month of September, the township of Franklin

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joins survivors, families, healthcare professionals, advocacy, organization, and all

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those committed to raising awareness, remembering lives lost and offering hope for

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a future with better outcomes and ultimately a cure. Now therefore, V. Alex

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Karazi deputed the mayor and filled Kramer mayor to hear about proclaim September 2020-26 as a

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worrying cancer awareness month in the Frank and Township.

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New Jersey, and encourage all residents to participate in awareness activities where

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treatment support and engage in conversation that helps save lives and support the thousands

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of families affected by this devastating disease.

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In witnessware of, I have here on to, said my hand,

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and caused the seal of the Tongchma Franklin

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to be affects this ace there of September 20, 26.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, and you're going to stay up there

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for a commendation on Ava Kulchha.

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Yes, Mr. Mayor, may I ask you to join me as well?

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We have a young lady, and I like you to be in the picture.

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Sure.

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All right. This is a nice part that I'm going to be talking about.

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You know, often we come across in the acts of generosity.

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And sometimes we see some good stuff done done by our younger folks.

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be a student or otherwise non-student.

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The couple of dinner, I sure, a week or so ago,

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I came across a fundraising, which was by one of the young ladies

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who was selling lemonade.

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And I thought that she's selling it to make some money

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to buy something for herself.

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Then a few days later, I saw a picture of her

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in front of the Franken-tonship animal shelter with a check for $175.

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I said, wow, this is incredible.

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So let me learn more about her and see if there's something that we can recognize during

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the council meeting.

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And when I talked to her mom, she said, oh, this is the third year in a row.

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She's doing it.

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So I am pleased to invite Eva and her family to please come and join me while I'm reading

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This certificate, or present in the certificate of commendation.

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So please come forward.

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If you have any discipline, you can come to.

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Any sibling, you can come to.

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Yes, friends, too.

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Sure.

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They're more the better.

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All right.

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So I'm just going to go ahead and read the certificate.

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Whereas Ava Golcha has for the past three years,

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created a lemonade stand in Frank and Tonship with the goal of helping animals in need.

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And whereas Eva has generously donated all of the proceeds from her lemonade stand to the

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Frank and Tonship Animal Shelter, and this year alone raised $175 through her hard work and dedication.

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And whereas Eva's deep love and care for all animals, along with her generosity and commitment

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to her community, exemplifies the very best of spread of Frank and Township.

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And whereas the mayor and Township Council of Franklin,

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and Frank and Township with the public recognized,

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and celebrated he was outstanding compassion, initiative, and generosity.

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Now, therefore, the mayor and Township Council,

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Comments of Councillor Frank and Township, some said county, New Jersey, do hereby, extend this

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certificate of commendation to Ava Golcha in hard-felt appreciation of her three years of dedicated

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service to the animals of our community. And with sincere thanks for the kindness of compassion

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she has shown to all creatures great and small.

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Usually when I present something for children, I frame it.

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The others are not frame, but this one is for me.

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So yeah.

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Well, the animal shelter is something that's close to my heart, all the money that I receive

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and anyone else who has helped me to the wedding,

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so all the money, we get $50 a wedding.

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All of that has been donated to the animal shelter.

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So I like where you're starting.

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I didn't start a year age, so you're going to get a jump

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on me, it's a very good, congratulations.

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I can go. I'll go get you back.

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Mr. Vasonello will be reading a proclamation about voting rights.

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Yes, may or was there anyone here to receive?

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Oh great.

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I'll read it.

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It's pretty self-explanatory.

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Do you want to come up?

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Sure.

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Come on up.

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It's a little long, but I think it's important here.

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Whereas, the right to vote is one of the most fundamental rights of citizenship

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and people with disabilities represent one of the largest and fastest growing blocks of

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eligible voters in the United States and whereas according to Rutgers University program

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for disability research and over 40 million Americans with disabilities were eligible eligible

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to vote as the 2024 roughly one in six eligible voters nationwide with the disability

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electric growing more than twice as fast as the electric without

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disabilities since 2020. Whereas the Americans with Disabilities Act and

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the help America Vote Act guarantee every voter would a disability the

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right to cast the private and independent ballot yet voters would

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disabilities continue the face in accessible polling places in adequate

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accommodations and other barriers to fully participate. And whereas research shows

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a voter turnout gap between people with and without disabilities narrowed to 1.5% and

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2022 down from 4.7% and 2018 demonstrating that outreach, education and advocacy measureably

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increase the participation among voters with disabilities.

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Whereas disability voting rights week observed nationally September 14th through 18th.

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It's coming this week.

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Was founded by grassroots disability advocates and is hosted by the American Association of People with Disabilities and it's rev up campaign.

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Register, educate, vote, use your power.

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See acronym, rev up.

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To register voters, educate candidates, end the public, and build the political power of the disability community.

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And we're as ensuring full, equal, and accessible access to the ballot for residents with disabilities,

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strengthens our democracy and reflects the township of Franklin's ongoing commitment to inclusion and civic participation for all residents.

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And we're as during disability voting rights week, the township of Franklin joins disability advocates,

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self advocates, families, service providers and election officials across the nation

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and recognizing the importance of accessible, independent and private voting for every eligible.

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Now, therefore, aye, on behalf of Mayor Philip Kramer and the whole council, do hereby proclaim September 14th through September 18th, 2026 as disability voting rights

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week in the township of Franklin. And encourage all residents, employers, and election officials to support voter registration and accessibility efforts.

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to help register and educate eligible voters with disabilities and to help ensure that every voter can exercise their right to vote independently and with dignity.

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Thank you.

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And this is an ending about mail and voting or this or that or anything else.

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This is simply about anybody who comes out the vote regardless of their physical ability to get around needs to and will.

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as far as Franklin, what we can do, and advocates like yourself to make it so that they

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can go, voting that whatever day they choose, and vote the way everybody else gets

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to.

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Good evening, everyone.

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May a creamer and the council, my name is Dr. Jackie Jackson, and I come before you with the

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disability community, and I thank you for presenting this voter rights disability

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proclamation to me.

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As we all know, voting is a fundamental right for all citizens, not just for people,

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able body people, but for people with disabilities as well.

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It is a essential part of our democracy, and I really want to emphasize that, you know,

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people with disability still continue to struggle.

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Depression, disability suppression is on the rise and people with disability still struggle.

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There's not excessive enough accessible voting sites and there's not accessible parking.

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So it's very difficult for people with disability to vote even today.

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After the 36th anniversary of the Americans with Disabilities Act on July 26th, just a few months ago,

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we still struggle in all aspects of life.

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So I'm here today on behalf of the disability community, as I said, to remind everybody that the disability vote matters.

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Our voices need to be heard, and again, I'm going to turn to the council and say that once again to emphasize that the disability vote matters, our voice matter, our voice is our power. Thank you.

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Can

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we get the podium move back?

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I think we should make Alex do it.

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I think we should make Alex do it.

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I think we should make Alex do it.

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should make Alex do it.

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Thank you.

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As for you, you're in an endless consent open for public session.

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Without objection, we are open to public session.

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Anyone wishing to speak about anything to do with government.

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May come forward, five minutes each, no yielding of time, we'd like you to state your name and address

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and bring a solar panel with you.

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by start. Good evening, council, stand-year-old church, but to head a drive.

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I apologize I brought this oversized panel. It's kind of heavy, but it's a

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only 6.

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So it's much lighter today. Now, why am I saying it? Because share a government share a signed on September 1st, a very important bill. It's called balcony sore act bill. So it became into law on September 1st. And why is it important? Because this bill removes unnecessary red tapes for residents who cannot afford or who from other reasons.

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cannot put solar panels on the roof.

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The purpose is really equity and make energy cost lower.

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So I just want to demonstrate how easy it is.

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All that you need, and also, I have to say that the system size

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must be less than 1,500 watts.

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So solar panel plus minus, this is inverter.

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to plug one from here, one there, you cannot miss it because they are complementary.

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And this is what you plug into your power outlet.

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When sun is shining, you touch the prongs, you will not get electrocuted,

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because the micro-inverter needs to sense the great first.

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When it senses, by plugging it, it will instantly convert the DC energy

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from the solar panel into AC and it's very safe. So when you have four of these, you are maximizing

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your allowance, you don't need permit, you don't need a blessing from the utility and this

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system. I actually got this panel from a person who thought that they don't need solar panels

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and they sold it to me for $10 each.

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You can buy them four of them, the modern for about $550.

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Inverter is about $180, so for less than $800,

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you can get a $121 system.

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Annual benefit is about up to $400.

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So if you get it like this for $10,

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it pays back within first year.

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If you get new, it will pay it back in two years.

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So I'm asking you as a council to celebrate and this bill and to encourage our residents

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to install solar panels, not just on their balcony, but wherever they can, just want to

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make sure that they have some brackets and it's really great stuff and again, I want you

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to promote it and leverage environmental commission to feel more education about this program.

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Thank you.

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Anyone else wishing to speak?

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Thank you.

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Good evening.

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Linda Powell, 22 Buffet Drive.

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A couple of things I wanted to mention.

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One is to congratulate Ed Patasnik.

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He, today, was a press release about him being sworn in as the commissioner of the New Jersey

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Department of Environmental Protection.

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For those of you who don't might not know it, he is a long-term resident of Franklin.

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He was the president of the school board.

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He was the council member of any left-hand position when Governor Cheryl asked him to be the

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committee and today he became the commissioner no longer acting.

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The other thing I want to say, some of you know me because between 2016 and 2020, when

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the pandemic outbreak happened, I was at almost every council meeting talking about the

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project of William's Transco and we defeated that in 2019 and 2020 and they let

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there's certificate from the federal agencies expire in 2024 but on November

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20th 2025 which was I believe in organization day they again applied for the same

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project, which includes a very polluting and dangerous compressor station here in Franklin

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and a pipeline under rail today, where they would direct up toxins that have been buried.

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Under the C-bed for decades now. Today, we woke up to some good news. And we had gone on July 8th, we had gone to a circuit court hearing.

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because we were basically suing the NJDP for not standing up for the water quality guidelines

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of the state and just giving you an over 20, 25 just giving it to New York's decision.

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And today, I woke up to and I'll quote this, this is from the National Resource Defense Council.

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Today, the third circuit, circuit quarter of appeals, held at the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection,

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is unjustifiably approved award equality certificate certification for the northeastern supply and enhancement or Nazi pipeline.

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The GEP has already twice rejected the project in 2019 and 2020, for its inability to comply

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with state water quality standards.

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The National Resources Defense Council, Father Lawson, November 21, 5, joined in a parallel

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suit for our partners represented by Eastern Environmental Law Center.

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The course decision today, vacated the unlawful certification, removing a key approval needed

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to build the pipeline to New Jersey State waters.

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So today was a good day.

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One of was a working with good news.

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The other thing I want to mention,

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has to do with resolution number 26, 390.

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And we mean, you know, the Franklin Township Task Force

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on NASA, you agree with accepting a settlement.

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As long as it is used to promote the health and safety

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of residents of Franklin and our neighbors.

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Thank you.

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Good evening, Mayor Cramer and Council.

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Loren de Harper, one, six, four, church, or avenue.

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Just a couple of things I wanted to point out for the record on this council meeting.

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One thing I'm happy to see public safety director here.

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I was going to address Carl with this question.

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But currently we have two speed radars on my street right now, church or avenue.

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And I just wanted to make note the one unit that is closer to an appellate street.

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is not currently working, so it needs to be charged.

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So right now it's just there for decoration.

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Also, I just wanted to ask Carl, not Carl, forlicker.

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If he could clarify what the act of ours is for the township noise ordinance.

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Okay, just the hours.

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And the main thing I'm up here for is for the next topic that you guys will discuss some of the ordinances.

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I'd like to talk about ordinance number four five one eight dash two six

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To habitat for humanity home. That's looking to be built by the Rarenton Valley chapter

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So I have some concerns about this

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I live at one six where again, and this is my neighbor at one

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170

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They're asking the bill the home at 168 which is all about the township right now and it's currently between our two homes

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The lot is very, very small.

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So right now it's going to go to the zoning board in September

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and two weeks for a variance approval.

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So I'm totally against it as well.

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The site's suitability is just not there.

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The lot is considered too small, I think, for a house.

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Both of our lots are 100 by 1.95, 100 by 1.95.

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But the lot right now for the township is 50 by, I think, is 50 by a hundred.

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So very small.

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So I don't know how a house can fit there is a one room house.

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I'm not sure a driveway, I don't see it.

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So also the environmental and infrastructure impact, removing the trees in between us.

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How I know, I had trees removed to the right of my home a couple years ago to make a

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for the church next to me, and my backyard flooded for three years, and I had to

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harass Bob, Department of Public Works, and this council, in order for that to

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be remediated, and it took three years to do that. So I looked with my backyard

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flooding for three years. Also, there's no parking for this this home. So that means...

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So they're going to park in front of my house and front of his house. And I just don't see it happening. And there's no privacy anymore for us. So safety is an issue as well. And I'll dress that to public safety director as well.

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That, where they want this house to be built, it's right and directly in front of Wheeler

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place to corner that's very heavy to traffic for basketball park.

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There's cars that speed around that corner consistently, and I've seen cars blow by that

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stop sign.

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You may have seen it all the time, and they go right into that lot.

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So I would hate to see a home there with children or family living in that situation.

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So, another thing I just don't understand there is already a utility pole right smack in the middle of that lot.

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The fire hydrant is to left of that. The light is always out of the corner.

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And I just, I don't see it. So, the question remains, we already have two homes habitat for humanity on our street, why third.

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So I'm just thinking, is there a ward equity?

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Are there any other habitat for humanity, homes being built,

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and other wards?

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Because it just seems like it's on our street.

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Because we're already overcrowded.

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We have the food bank.

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We have two churches.

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We have a mosque being built.

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And they have no parking whatsoever right now.

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So we have to snake in and out of our street every day just to get by.

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Because there's so many families with multiple cars.

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And the two, the habitat freemanity home that's closer to him and his direct neighbor, they have about seven cars in their driveway and where do they park in front of his house and front of my neighbor's house?

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They don't even cut the grass anymore because there is cars parked under a lot.

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So I just want to bring up those issues. Hopefully I can

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I have nothing against having to attend for you, but I think it's a great organization, but I just don't think that whole belongs between you and I.

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Okay, so thank you. Those are my questions.

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Thank you. Anyone else who should speak?

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Good evening, Mayor Cramer and Council. My name is Maureen Taylor.

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I've been a resident of Franklin Township for over 40 years and I wanted to express my disappointment in discovering that there's going to be a cannabis dispensary, less than a mile from my house.

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Not only is it close to a residential area, it's also close to a school or a place of worship and our library where children go.

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To be honest, when I first saw the sign Franklin Roots, I thought I had something to do with

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our partnership history, imagine my surprise when I Googled it and found it was going

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to be yet another dispensary.

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I believe that the propagation and the high number of dispensaries will be a stain on our

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history.

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I found out too late that it was going to happen and I took personal ownership for that.

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I will make sure I keep a closer eye on what the Council proposes to happen and to that

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And I would like to know how many more dispensaries

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are planned for Franklin Township?

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Is there a limit for how many more there will be?

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Is Franklin Township reaping any revenue

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to offset our high property taxes?

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And are there plans to regulate the traffic

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at that intersection of Mwell and Demod?

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Thank you very much for your service.

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Jim Johnston, 34, Norwich Place, I'm going to talk about Flock since the last meeting

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a month ago, I've been doing some more reading up on it, and I've been talking to

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some more people, and I'm very grateful to their helping me to understand, but if I say anything

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that you know is incorrect, you're pleased to feel free to correct me.

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Flock is a private company that got a private database that is contained on the cloud,

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Okay, you know what the cloud is like, cloud computing, and it's contained in a cloud called the American web services cloud, the AWS cloud.

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Okay, now Flock has four control over this database that got their own administrators who are flock employees that you're the only ones who are allowed to have administrative capabilities to this database.

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So let's say if someone from the Franklin Police, a Franklin police officer wants to submit a query, he has a special login for police officers that he can log into to submit a query to the flock database.

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and that query goes to the database and it is handled by one of the administrators and they process the query and it produces the desired report which is then sent back to the police officer,

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that's my understanding.

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So, so Fri can tell you what the Fri can police do not have any administrator ability to to

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they control the database, and they control the data that's in the database.

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So let's say if I know your contract says that with the Flock, that the township has a contract with Flock that says Flock is not allowed to sell data to third parties,

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But actually, if they wanted to, they could, without you knowing about it, because because,

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like I said, the Falk is the only ones who have administrative ability to administer

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the database and they can do anything they want, including selling data to third parties.

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And this is verified by New Jersey State Assemblyman, Balvier Singh, he's a New Jersey State

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Solomon. He put out a video a couple of weeks ago in which he says that flock is, indeed,

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selling data to third parties to the highest bidder. I just want to check him out. His name

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is Belle Vier Singh, B-A-L-V-I-R, last name Singh, S-I-N-G-H. So I would tend to believe him because,

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We heard we heard to the contrary at the last meeting that they couldn't do it, but this

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Assemblyman says they are doing

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it, and then okay so okay and then there's the question

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of how much support, how much there is, there was bipartisan opposition in Franklin against

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Flock overwhelmingly, you saw what happened at the last month, we had how many speakers

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to come up here, 25 people came up here to speak, or 30 people, and every one of them voiced

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objections to the flock. They were all against it. Not a single person was four flock.

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Now, I don't know how many of you are on Facebook, but even on Facebook, you can see there's

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an overwhelming opposition to the flock. On last week, the Franken reporter published two

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tutorials. One editorial was against flock. The other editorial was foreflock. The one that was against

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flock got a lot of favorable comments and 62 people liked the editorial that was against flock.

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Nobody. Nobody. Not one person liked the editorial that was foreflock. Nobody wrote any comments.

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Nobody liked it. So that's that the vote tell is 62 to 0 to get to the castle flock and

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Take down the cameras and or cover them up whatever.

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I think

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good afternoon

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Good evening council my name is Jacqueline the cafe for two I am demanding the immediate shutdown of Franklin Township's

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of antisystem until residents receive complete answers and a genuinely independent

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investigation. Our analysis places Franklin, you're the top of the agencies with

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calculator hot list rate of nearly 48%. This is not targeted policing.

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Targeted

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Time, location, and vehicle information of hundreds of thousands of innocent people first, and preserves

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it in case someone wants to search it later. That threatens our Fourth Amendment protection

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against unreasonable government searches. Location records can reveal visits to homes, doctors,

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churches, protests, attorneys, and support groups. Driving through Franklin is not consent

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to government tracking.

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Township orders document roughly 26 licensed plate readers

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for condor video cameras, gunshot detection,

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clockwise, and a three-year data retention.

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Yet residents have heard conflicting camera counts.

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Where is the authority inventory?

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In only 30 days, the portal reported roughly 664,000 unique

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vehicle reads and approximately 311 hotless hits.

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a calculated rate of nearly 47%, that extraordinary figure must be independently verified.

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A hit is not necessarily a wanted vehicle, confirmed a match, arrest, or self-crime.

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Verified, flock commitments approached $400,000, with more than $100,000 in estimated

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annual costs. That also excludes all the other surveillance software. I'm not going to

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list them, but we don't know if they are. So that more our reaches are surveillance

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estimates over a million dollars. But the township has not produced the complete

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ledger of what that is, and that's what we're asking for. And then if we go to crime statistics,

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they do not justify what we have done in Franklin Township. Franklin's population has

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more than doubled since 1976 while the series crime rate was approximately 75% lower in

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2024. The available evidence does not prove that for a reduced crime. The ACLU warns

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that Flock is building a nationwide mass surveillance network and has documented misleading

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representations concerning its capabilities in federal access. Flock now faces a proposed

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class action lawsuit, alleging unlawful access to location data.

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We also demand an independent investigation into the depletes department restructuring

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the displacement of the police chief structure, void projects appointment process, and the

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township manager for lockers involvement.

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I believe far too much authority has become concentrated in the township manager's office.

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Tonight, we demand that you turn off the cameras and suspend collections, searches, alerts, and sharing.

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Preserve every contract, communication, hot list and audit log.

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Commission fully independent investigation.

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Release the complete inventory sharing list grant records, payment ledger, and actual public safety outcomes.

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Terminate the contract and ban block from Franklin Township.

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Turn off the cameras, preserve the evidence, give the public answers before this system operates for one more day.

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Thank you.

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Bill Bowman, 52-1 Cherrywood Drive, most of the editor of the Franklin Report. You guys know how I hate doing this, but I have to.

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Clarification, we did not publish an editorial in favor of the flood cameras.

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What that was was a story, an editorial, a story.

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I'll allow the public safety director to more fully explain what the situation is with

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flat cameras and other surveillance cameras in the in the township.

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We published an editorial opposing the flat cameras and asking not demanding, suggesting

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that the contract be nullified and the cameras be shut down, but we did not publish an editorial

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Supporting the flat, flat cameras.

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Tovon Walker, 15-Coon Street.

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Just a couple of things.

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The first one I want to mention is what exactly is a protocol.

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If we believe that there has to be an improvement

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or re-construction of sidewalks.

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A lot of sidewalks on the fourth ward are cracked.

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Disfigured blah blah blah.

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It makes it much harder for kids to be able to go to school.

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I don't know if that needs to be a complete.

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A complaint submitted to DPW, I don't know if it, okay, thank you, Mr. Brownlocker.

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And also, in terms of dumping with that, also I have to be formal complaints to appreciate

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it.

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Okay, and the last thing is, along with a lot of what other people have said, again with

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the flock, I ask if the Township Council...

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Can, like the prior person said, suspend all activities related to the flock, until there's a larger gathering of people, unless there's a referendum for like November ballot or next year, or, you know, some other type of meetings with the public along with the township council, I think, two meetings is not enough.

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You've heard a lot of what the public said in the public said is over.

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What the public has said is overwhelmingly against the flood cameras, I think, for the amount

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of participation at the Township Council averages in meetings, what you've seen over the last

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two meetings is substantially higher than what you normally see.

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So I think that the Township Council should really consider what the public is overwhelmingly

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saying in regards to flood cameras.

449
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Like I said, I think if you really want to allow power to the people at least set it for a referendum,

450
00:45:54,200 --> 00:46:04,700
please don't be the, you know, the eight or nine members of the council that want to decide whether we want surveillance in the township and so forth.

451
00:46:04,980 --> 00:46:06,380
That's all that I asked. Thank you.

452
00:46:18,590 --> 00:46:27,910
Hello. My name is Danielle Williams. I live at 32 cobbler circle in Park Hill State off of South Middle Bush and the intersection of 27.

453
00:46:28,690 --> 00:46:30,990
I think you guys know what I'm talking about.

454
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:33,370
There is a flock camera in that intersection.

455
00:46:34,270 --> 00:46:37,330
As previously mentioned, we were not made aware

456
00:46:37,330 --> 00:46:39,310
of those flock cameras being placed.

457
00:46:39,730 --> 00:46:42,610
I drive past that road every single day

458
00:46:42,610 --> 00:46:47,010
and I do not consent to being surveilled by my government.

459
00:46:47,850 --> 00:46:52,750
I've lived in Franklin Park for a majority of my life over 20 years.

460
00:46:53,370 --> 00:46:56,030
I've grown up here, I've gone to the public schools here.

461
00:46:56,030 --> 00:46:59,250
I have friends, family, all of that.

462
00:46:59,550 --> 00:47:07,490
There is no known crime, so I need to see some statistics from you guys, showing me why that's necessary, right?

463
00:47:08,370 --> 00:47:13,810
We live in a very safe community, so I don't understand why we need to be surveilled, right?

464
00:47:14,570 --> 00:47:19,210
We don't have any crime, the worst thing that happens to us is a car accident, right?

465
00:47:20,330 --> 00:47:25,490
We need to understand why you guys have approved that contract, why you've spent our tax

466
00:47:25,490 --> 00:47:33,430
paid dollars on these cameras, surveillance on us, you don't inform us, you didn't do a referendum,

467
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:37,830
you didn't do a vote on it, you didn't even let us know that this was happening, right?

468
00:47:38,210 --> 00:47:43,030
I have to go online, see about these block cameras, and as I'm driving, I see a camera

469
00:47:44,670 --> 00:47:52,890
I'm not a criminal, I don't know, there's no crime in the area that is suggesting that we need this technology.

470
00:47:53,350 --> 00:47:55,810
It's an invasion of our rights of our privacy.

471
00:47:56,410 --> 00:48:01,130
And at the very least, you need to let us know that you are making this decision.

472
00:48:02,470 --> 00:48:06,490
I was not here at the last township meeting, so I didn't hear what other people were saying,

473
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:12,130
but I'm pretty sure from what I've heard today that they have had similar feedback and thoughts.

474
00:48:12,130 --> 00:48:18,670
So I need you guys to actually really consider this and either pause not I don't even want it to be paused

475
00:48:18,670 --> 00:48:21,110
I wanted to be stopped. I want the cameras to come down

476
00:48:21,110 --> 00:48:26,970
But at the very least you need to do a vote and have the township the people of Franklin

477
00:48:26,970 --> 00:48:29,410
Vote and make their voices heard, right?

478
00:48:29,950 --> 00:48:35,350
We I shouldn't have to come down to this meeting and tell you guys that I don't want to be watched for no reason

479
00:48:35,350 --> 00:48:37,410
Okay, there is no

480
00:48:37,410 --> 00:48:40,110
the right to our safety, nothing happens.

481
00:48:40,310 --> 00:48:42,170
The worst is someone sets off a firework.

482
00:48:42,670 --> 00:48:44,290
You're talking about gunshots, detection,

483
00:48:44,430 --> 00:48:47,430
what gunshots have been fired in our neighborhood,

484
00:48:47,710 --> 00:48:49,190
in our township, okay?

485
00:48:49,370 --> 00:48:52,250
Maybe I'm privileged, maybe I don't have to have that experience,

486
00:48:52,730 --> 00:48:55,230
but I don't think that that's necessary, right?

487
00:48:55,610 --> 00:48:58,170
And my thoughts are, if we're having this,

488
00:48:58,190 --> 00:48:59,750
surveillance technology, what's the point

489
00:48:59,750 --> 00:49:00,770
of the police's apartment?

490
00:49:01,130 --> 00:49:03,150
You guys are not doing your job then, right?

491
00:49:03,610 --> 00:49:05,310
Because you're supposed to be keeping us safe.

492
00:49:06,010 --> 00:49:11,870
If you need this technology to do your work, then maybe we need a new, we need to revamp

493
00:49:11,870 --> 00:49:13,610
the police department or something.

494
00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:18,370
Because this doesn't make any sense why you guys need this help when for years.

495
00:49:18,590 --> 00:49:24,430
As that other lady said, our crime has been lowered since 76 or something like that.

496
00:49:24,770 --> 00:49:26,310
We are not having an influx of crime.

497
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:31,990
So if you guys can't handle the little car accidents and things like that, let us know

498
00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:34,770
So that we can make the next steps to make that change.

499
00:49:35,170 --> 00:49:38,230
But you should not be surveilling us, watching us, right?

500
00:49:38,410 --> 00:49:39,730
As we're going about our day.

501
00:49:39,870 --> 00:49:41,450
I don't know who has access to that data.

502
00:49:41,530 --> 00:49:43,790
I don't know who's searching for it.

503
00:49:43,930 --> 00:49:46,870
There's young women, people around, right?

504
00:49:47,010 --> 00:49:49,270
You don't know who's in charge of that data,

505
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:50,630
who has access to it.

506
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:51,930
I don't approve of that.

507
00:49:51,950 --> 00:49:53,690
And I just wanted to come here and let you guys know

508
00:49:53,690 --> 00:49:54,590
that that's not okay.

509
00:49:55,050 --> 00:49:56,950
And we need to have some type of referendum,

510
00:49:57,130 --> 00:49:58,870
some type of vote discussion,

511
00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:59,970
and they're not even discussion.

512
00:50:16,550 --> 00:50:19,050
Good evening. Thank you.

513
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:35,440
Good evening Mayor, council. I very much appreciate your ear when it comes to the flock situation and listening to me and reading my e-mails. I very much appreciate it.

514
00:50:37,420 --> 00:50:42,520
Thank you for serving Ward 2, Councilman Francois.

515
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,720
Thank you for asking very good questions and be in a tentative.

516
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,640
Welcome to the Franklin Flock Files session.

517
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,160
If I know what he did get a packet and you would like a packet, raise your hand and

518
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,300
the young lady in the nice flowered blouse.

519
00:51:03,740 --> 00:51:04,620
We'll hand you one.

520
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,000
Let's start with Carl Bach from Flock.

521
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:18,620
Who said, flock can't unilaterally change terms of conditions in New Jersey except they did for

522
00:51:18,620 --> 00:51:23,540
Somerset County and May and then here in Franklin on June 30th.

523
00:51:23,540 --> 00:51:28,660
The contract says explicitly binding to terms on flock website.

524
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:29,540
That's highlighted.

525
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:36,080
Then we have flock doesn't continuously track residents, Lloyd said, except when I went to

526
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,840
photo and it collected 20 plus location data points on me in a few miles.

527
00:51:41,620 --> 00:51:44,640
That is tracking by definition.

528
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,360
See the map.

529
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,340
Lloyd said, flocked fine pets and clothing.

530
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,280
Well, that's the Marikai MVAI system that has that feature.

531
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,040
So Lloyd mixed up his tyranny toys.

532
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:04,380
Why tell us there's 22 cameras when there's far more?

533
00:52:04,380 --> 00:52:06,500
I don't understand that.

534
00:52:06,740 --> 00:52:09,580
Uh, Lloyd said they're not disproportionately placed in the

535
00:52:09,580 --> 00:52:10,760
cloared side of town.

536
00:52:12,580 --> 00:52:14,440
But the map tells a different story.

537
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,520
Did the council approve these 20, 24 terms and conditions prior

538
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,720
to the resolution passing in January?

539
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,240
Because I find that odd.

540
00:52:26,180 --> 00:52:30,100
Then there's no opt-out in a 20, 25 contract, which I highlighted.

541
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:31,620
Yikes.

542
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,500
Did the council approve a second contract with Flock on the 30th of June?

543
00:52:38,420 --> 00:52:43,700
This did subject Franklin Township to the February 16th terms and conditions that were on

544
00:52:43,700 --> 00:52:45,080
Flock website at the time.

545
00:52:45,620 --> 00:52:52,080
And I want to know who specifically approved those terms and conditions.

546
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:59,180
Take a look at the Flock portal stats for Franklin Township and then on the next page you

547
00:52:59,180 --> 00:53:07,420
look at Edison. This is disgusting. Lloyd is on the record saying that hotlist hits,

548
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:15,140
hit total is a national number, not all Franklin, and he said that to the Franklin Advocate in

549
00:53:15,140 --> 00:53:20,600
the article that the gentleman was talking about from the Franklin Advocate. But that is simply

550
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:29,160
no true, no idea how the system works. And with all the backlash now, the hotlist hits

551
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:34,760
actually hit it. And I mean, you know, we asked for this to be investigated. I even put

552
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:40,980
an informal complaint about it. We didn't ask for it to be covered up. You know, real

553
00:53:40,980 --> 00:53:44,080
national numbers, I have them.

554
00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:53,370
They're right here. Out of 300 cities that have a public

555
00:53:53,370 --> 00:53:53,870
portal,

556
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:02,060
you can see where Franklin Township sits on that. But keep in mind, now, the whole

557
00:54:02,060 --> 00:54:06,500
to Florida has banned Flock, Flock has banned in Florida, the entire state.

558
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,460
So congratulations, Franklin.

559
00:54:08,900 --> 00:54:13,300
We're number one in the country, for hotness, hit percentage of all the public portals

560
00:54:13,300 --> 00:54:14,220
in the country,

561
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:17,880
what an achievement.

562
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:25,780
And you know, I mean, if you go over to the email page, you know, Bob, I like Bob, but he actually

563
00:54:25,780 --> 00:54:30,820
thinks that the Marriott Kai MVs are regular traffic cameras, kind of like my dad thinks

564
00:54:30,820 --> 00:54:32,860
that AI is just for asking questions.

565
00:54:34,340 --> 00:54:35,620
It's kind of like the same concept.

566
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,840
And Lloyd is right in the other email.

567
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,280
We did have Marry Kai cameras 10 years ago.

568
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:42,940
We did have them.

569
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,900
Just not the ones with AI that collected our data.

570
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,440
And I have every date of each AI camera

571
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,200
that was installed on each poll.

572
00:54:51,340 --> 00:54:53,680
That's the power of open source intelligence.

573
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,660
And governments who have no understanding

574
00:54:58,660 --> 00:54:59,960
of AIs

575
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:12,720
Surveillance, or how it evolves, should not be in charge of this technology. Nor should a town council be a rubber stand for the police department, so they can plant their tyranny trees.

576
00:55:13,780 --> 00:55:22,380
I have provided far more evidence than any other city that already cancelled or banned flock. Tons more.

577
00:55:22,380 --> 00:55:27,280
Some of these cities was just one, one, that was it, just one, that's all it took.

578
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:32,260
I just want to say one Ben Franklin quote here to finish this off.

579
00:55:32,700 --> 00:55:36,940
Rebellion to Tyrants is obedience to God.

580
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:38,680
Thank you.

581
00:55:50,030 --> 00:55:50,530
Good afternoon.

582
00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:52,190
My name's Kyle Asset.

583
00:55:52,370 --> 00:55:55,250
I live off of Webster Road.

584
00:55:55,870 --> 00:56:00,170
I recently got this letter in the mail.

585
00:56:00,810 --> 00:56:07,550
I am pre-plan any of this, I figure I just come up here and voice my opinion.

586
00:56:09,930 --> 00:56:16,830
This is pretty much a letter of cowardice saying why my property tax is when it's not

587
00:56:16,830 --> 00:56:19,750
your fault, it's school district and everyone else.

588
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:22,350
That's the way I read it as cowardice.

589
00:56:22,350 --> 00:56:27,290
I don't understand how we can sustain this.

590
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:32,150
I got a kid that's 10 months old.

591
00:56:32,490 --> 00:56:33,850
I've lived here for 12 years.

592
00:56:34,530 --> 00:56:36,190
I hope you guys actually listen,

593
00:56:36,490 --> 00:56:38,290
I wanted to start a family here

594
00:56:38,290 --> 00:56:39,430
and it's no longer feasible.

595
00:56:39,790 --> 00:56:41,570
I'm going to look for somewhere else to live

596
00:56:41,570 --> 00:56:43,410
because I can't keep this up.

597
00:56:43,750 --> 00:56:45,350
In the time that I've lived here,

598
00:56:45,810 --> 00:56:48,230
I'm a younger guy that lives here.

599
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:59,470
83% my property tax has gone since 2012 since 2020 to 37% I don't make 37% more

600
00:57:00,210 --> 00:57:03,550
This is the straw that's breaking the canvas back

601
00:57:05,630 --> 00:57:14,470
Yeah, I like that in here it's it's got you know what you guys do the finest police force

602
00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:20,090
yet now here we are all talking about how you need flock well then I can't be the

603
00:57:20,090 --> 00:57:27,210
finest police force if you need they are trying to add it in my biggest right

604
00:57:27,210 --> 00:57:31,770
period I can't afford this place you're making it affordable for everybody you

605
00:57:31,770 --> 00:57:39,390
knew that the cost of the property was going to be valued at a extra amount you

606
00:57:39,390 --> 00:57:45,430
call it 20%. That's outside of what you guys are able to do. That's set by the market.

607
00:57:46,190 --> 00:57:52,230
Yet even with that 20% increase, if your house is valued at now 100,000 more,

608
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:57,130
you still chose to increase your portion of taking.

609
00:57:59,230 --> 00:58:01,500
Can you not work within the

610
00:58:02,460 --> 00:58:08,100
exorbitant amount that's already going up. Can you not balance a budget? What happens if

611
00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:13,200
there is any sort of correction in the housing market? Are you going to just run

612
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:19,300
a deficit and on stop and bleed a strife? Or are you actually going to do something

613
00:58:19,300 --> 00:58:25,160
about it? Cut, cost, cut, staff. This is getting too much.

614
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,340
And then wall

615
00:58:31,340 --> 00:58:43,220
I think it was by Benjamin Franklin, someone already quoted it, but you trade security, you trade freedom for security.

616
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:50,240
Those who trade freedom for security deserve me for the liberty.

617
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:58,060
say, if you for the clarity, deserve neither and will lose both. I appreciate you know

618
00:58:58,060 --> 00:58:58,760
that.

619
00:59:08,740 --> 00:59:11,100
Deborah and men, four, four.

620
00:59:14,310 --> 00:59:17,190
I don't know how long ago, but the ordinance, the

621
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:22,250
ordinance, the ordinance, was modified so that when a resident call and complain about

622
00:59:22,250 --> 00:59:30,130
the noise disturbance, the officers could issue some instances. Office of Fredericks, they're

623
00:59:30,130 --> 00:59:36,710
doing that. I've called numerous times on one of my neighbors, and I do believe if they were

624
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:45,730
issuing a summons, they wouldn't be violating the North's ordinance after 10 p.m. So, it was

625
00:59:45,730 --> 00:59:53,470
the sense of modifying the North's ordinance, if it's not going to be enforced. And when we call

626
00:59:53,470 --> 00:59:58,910
when I call the dispatch, it's like we are disturbing them about who was ordinance.

627
00:59:58,910 --> 00:59:59,970
So I really...

628
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,720
I need you to check your dispatchers, check your police officers, and when they go out to a call about

629
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:15,540
a noise disturbance, don't give them one chance issued a noise ordinance right then and there, because

630
01:00:15,540 --> 01:00:21,660
they're disturbing people's peace. We're unable to enjoy the confounds of our home. I'm tied

631
01:00:21,660 --> 01:00:30,320
turn in my volume of my TV up to 50, to be able to hear my television when I'm told you

632
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:35,620
have to be able to hear from the proper line. If I'm inside my house and my neighbor is

633
01:00:35,620 --> 01:00:43,160
over there, that's over the proper line. So I would appreciate that you have that conversation

634
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:48,480
during your huddles with your police officers and have them reinforce that ordinance and

635
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,540
that playing with people's livelihoods?

636
01:00:58,720 --> 01:00:59,440
Good evening, everybody.

637
01:01:00,060 --> 01:01:02,660
My name is Faisal Nour, I live out of two vents

638
01:01:02,660 --> 01:01:03,780
road, Somerset.

639
01:01:04,820 --> 01:01:07,960
So I'm here to speak about property taxes,

640
01:01:08,380 --> 01:01:11,700
like the last increase was 20%.

641
01:01:11,700 --> 01:01:15,280
And I got the same letter saying that everything

642
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,540
is getting more expensive.

643
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,640
Insurance is getting more expensive.

644
01:01:18,860 --> 01:01:20,420
It's getting more expensive for everybody.

645
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,660
And for you to move your problem from your side,

646
01:01:23,660 --> 01:01:28,140
We're just my side. It's not fair because I'm going to be sending my house soon.

647
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,380
If this continues, have we considered managing resources, control expenses?

648
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,300
You're just sending me a letter saying that we are like paying more.

649
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:45,060
But what have we done last year? What was our expenses last year versus how much is our expenses this year?

650
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,660
Are we abusing? Is everybody paying an increase? I got 20%.

651
01:01:49,660 --> 01:01:59,800
It's everybody in the room got 20% increased because I heard some people like their homes worth millions and they pay a little bit because like they're walking here

652
01:02:00,620 --> 01:02:05,120
I don't know if that's true or not, but we should look into that

653
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:14,100
Because if you guys keep continuous in my property tax, I won't be on in a home anytime soon. I'll be selling my home. Thank you

654
01:02:28,890 --> 01:02:30,570
Good evening, Charlie Cratt-Aville.

655
01:02:30,670 --> 01:02:33,010
I live at 143 CIDAM Street in New Brunswick,

656
01:02:33,150 --> 01:02:35,370
and I'm one of the say it's a great day for Central Jersey,

657
01:02:35,450 --> 01:02:38,710
and I'm so glad to be with you all here in Franklin Township.

658
01:02:38,730 --> 01:02:42,770
I may not be a resident, but I have many great friends and allies

659
01:02:42,770 --> 01:02:44,730
who call this community home.

660
01:02:45,350 --> 01:02:50,010
Of course, Franklin is home to many great community organizers,

661
01:02:50,590 --> 01:02:54,610
political activists, journalists, and other civic-minded folks

662
01:02:54,610 --> 01:02:56,310
who make it such a great place.

663
01:02:56,810 --> 01:02:58,710
And I think you're hearing from some of those folks tonight,

664
01:02:58,710 --> 01:03:03,050
I hope you listen to them and take to heart what they're telling you.

665
01:03:03,850 --> 01:03:11,190
It's also got a pretty good culture here with the meetings being video recorded, shared

666
01:03:11,190 --> 01:03:12,630
with the public on YouTube.

667
01:03:13,210 --> 01:03:14,050
Not all of them are.

668
01:03:14,270 --> 01:03:17,970
You still don't have the housing authority or the redevelopment agency meetings up there.

669
01:03:18,390 --> 01:03:24,470
So I encourage you to look at that and ask why not since you do share so many of the important

670
01:03:24,470 --> 01:03:27,530
meetings and you have so many great volunteers on your boards.

671
01:03:27,530 --> 01:03:34,570
So I do enjoy watching those meetings, but I'm here today because I was troubled by what I saw here at your August 11th meeting.

672
01:03:35,310 --> 01:03:43,990
So firstly I came to that meeting to correct what I believe was bad information given to the council, the mayor and the viewing public.

673
01:03:45,050 --> 01:03:54,730
So through the mayor, for the Township Attorney, I wanted to ask again the definition of a covered person in the state's Daniels Law statute.

674
01:03:54,730 --> 01:03:57,110
Does that include elected officials,

675
01:04:02,570 --> 01:04:05,330
Mr. Mayor, through you, for the Township Attorney?

676
01:04:05,510 --> 01:04:08,390
We answer it. We answer it at the end of the day.

677
01:04:08,510 --> 01:04:15,510
That's the thing. Last time I asked that same exact question, I waited until the very end, and I didn't get an answer.

678
01:04:16,830 --> 01:04:21,590
So I'm back with the same question when will I get an answer?

679
01:04:24,050 --> 01:04:31,670
That's what you told me last time. So I guess we'll stay tuned for that answer, but I don't know why you.

680
01:04:31,670 --> 01:04:35,770
Well, just answer, but to recap, Mr. Ray, no, in the long-time township attorney and Mr.

681
01:04:35,910 --> 01:04:39,950
Warren Locker, the long-time township manager, made comments that your July meeting

682
01:04:39,950 --> 01:04:46,290
that suggested it was inappropriate to discuss the alleged home address of Fourth Ward Councilman

683
01:04:46,290 --> 01:04:47,250
Carl Wright.

684
01:04:48,130 --> 01:04:57,210
It's obvious to anyone who's actually read the statute that the interpretation offered by your professionals was simply wrong.

685
01:04:59,000 --> 01:04:59,820
Now

686
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:06,360
We all make mistakes, no one is perfect, but the honorable thing to do when you're engaged in public service.

687
01:05:06,580 --> 01:05:12,060
And you make a mistake like this to apologize, correct the record and move forward with dignity.

688
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:25,540
Instead, what occurred was even more troubling, when another individual followed up on my questions about these misrepresentations, an un-serious and unprofessional response was offered by Township Council.

689
01:05:28,340 --> 01:05:31,420
I don't answer questions for Mr. Crataville.

690
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:32,700
That's my policy.

691
01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:35,700
So, I got to ask, were you joking?

692
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,680
It certainly sounded like an attempt at humor at my expense.

693
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:47,820
Either way, it was an extraordinarily unprofessional conduct beneath the office

694
01:05:47,820 --> 01:05:49,140
that Mr. Reno and holds.

695
01:05:51,590 --> 01:05:55,410
And I will also note on the topic of respect,

696
01:05:55,410 --> 01:06:23,450
public safety director Lloyd Frederick's, also across the line during that meeting when he threatened to remove people from the meeting for being, quote, not respectful. Now, I will say this. I have great respect for you, Mayor. I've worked with a lot of different mayors around the state and I truly like you and think you're a good public servant. So I have respect for you. I show respect for you. I thought it was great that you have a public safety director who comes to many of the meetings.

697
01:06:26,710 --> 01:06:33,030
But no one is able to demand respect in the government.

698
01:06:33,230 --> 01:06:35,530
You cannot make people respect you.

699
01:06:36,190 --> 01:06:40,690
And no one has to be respectful to participate in these meetings.

700
01:06:41,590 --> 01:06:47,070
It was wrong for the civilian police director to go well beyond the scope of his duties

701
01:06:47,070 --> 01:06:47,970
that night.

702
01:06:49,250 --> 01:06:51,990
And he too owes the public an apology.

703
01:06:52,830 --> 01:06:58,990
So, I am eagerly awaiting the answers to my questions and I hope that we can all move forward

704
01:06:58,990 --> 01:07:02,830
with dignity and earn each other's respect.

705
01:07:03,770 --> 01:07:04,070
That's all.

706
01:07:04,130 --> 01:07:04,790
Thank you.

707
01:07:11,490 --> 01:07:12,590
My name is Sanchi Sharma.

708
01:07:12,750 --> 01:07:13,870
I live on New Brunswick Road.

709
01:07:14,590 --> 01:07:17,530
So, also, if my voice gets weird, sorry, I'm dealing with a bit of allergies.

710
01:07:18,490 --> 01:07:19,910
So, okay, so I have a couple of questions.

711
01:07:20,550 --> 01:07:24,550
I've, like, all my body, this was mentioned in the previous meeting and I just missed it.

712
01:07:24,550 --> 01:07:25,530
But I have three questions.

713
01:07:25,530 --> 01:07:29,130
My first question is, how long is the contract with Flock?

714
01:07:29,970 --> 01:07:33,730
My second question is, what are the consequences for canceling the contract?

715
01:07:34,210 --> 01:07:41,750
And my third question is, is there any coordination with New Brunswick in the placement of Flock cameras between Franklin and New Brunswick?

716
01:07:42,430 --> 01:07:45,810
I want to read some headlines. I found out it was consen.

717
01:07:46,310 --> 01:07:52,270
So this is one of the headlines shares offices and I'm so sorry to anybody in Wisconsin but during this,

718
01:07:52,270 --> 01:07:57,690
President, Fawn DuLock, Counties, ending agreements with Flock, two counties in southeast Wisconsin

719
01:07:57,690 --> 01:07:58,450
announced Friday.

720
01:07:58,450 --> 01:08:01,310
They are cutting ties with Flock license plate, reader cameras.

721
01:08:01,850 --> 01:08:06,050
In a statement, Fawn DuLock County said its decision follows the discovery that search

722
01:08:06,050 --> 01:08:11,190
data from our Flock systems, including records tied to active investigations was disclosed to

723
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:16,290
the public by law enforcement agencies and other states in response to open records request

724
01:08:16,290 --> 01:08:18,410
they received, making it accessible nationwide.

725
01:08:19,550 --> 01:08:26,310
Another headline, which is with the Shiboygan Police Department, was that Flock safety offered

726
01:08:26,310 --> 01:08:29,790
to sell five years of speed and traffic data to the city of Shiboygan.

727
01:08:30,230 --> 01:08:34,750
The city's mayors that Flock never told them the cameras were tracking that kind of data.

728
01:08:35,210 --> 01:08:37,930
And now the city is looking to cancel, it's contract with Flock.

729
01:08:38,950 --> 01:08:44,970
The last article I just want to quickly quote is from 404 media titled, Flock taught

730
01:08:48,970 --> 01:09:01,570
So this is from the article in one second, okay, so in Matt, this was like what the articles basically talk about a webinar, you can read the article online too, and this is a paragraph of an article.

731
01:09:01,970 --> 01:09:10,310
Imagine that you're an incident commander and you're working this no-king's protest peak explains while a dashboard shows a surveillance of surveillance tools overlaying the city of Denver.

732
01:09:10,310 --> 01:09:18,590
If I'm somebody assigned a traffic post, that's working this no-kings protest, I really don't have time to go in and look at all these places for different intelligence.

733
01:09:19,170 --> 01:09:24,650
This is an example of viewing all of that in one place. I'm an officer. I can see the response plan that's included.

734
01:09:25,210 --> 01:09:31,810
I can pull that if I can pull that up if I need it, but I can also see live video footage as that protest moves to the park.

735
01:09:32,890 --> 01:09:38,250
Last time I brought up, I think it was the false positive rate, I brought up, I brought

736
01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:45,110
up the risk of stalking and those are still valid concerns, but I think it's kind

737
01:09:45,110 --> 01:09:51,290
of concerning that every week we have new headlines about flock nationwide on different

738
01:09:51,290 --> 01:09:54,950
issues with this company and just ALPR's in general.

739
01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:59,970
Again, I call it Franklin to cancel their contract because I mean I could show up in two weeks

740
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,440
I would like to put more headlines, but I just don't want us to become a headline as well. Thank you.

741
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,560
Anyone else wishing to speak?

742
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:23,400
Ask for unanimous consent to end public portion.

743
01:10:24,940 --> 01:10:27,560
That objection, public portion is closed.

744
01:10:28,900 --> 01:10:30,420
The dress comments are the public.

745
01:10:31,860 --> 01:10:36,340
Oh, lock was first on the list. Did you want to answer the questions?

746
01:10:45,850 --> 01:10:47,230
Alright, good evening everyone.

747
01:10:47,570 --> 01:10:51,650
In person, foremost, I'm not here to lie or to see anyone.

748
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:55,450
I'm a human being.

749
01:10:55,770 --> 01:10:56,330
I've made mistakes.

750
01:10:56,770 --> 01:10:59,610
I quoted 22 cameras because there are four cameras

751
01:10:59,610 --> 01:11:02,490
that are attached to our video cameras that I totally forgot about.

752
01:11:02,790 --> 01:11:04,190
And two cameras that were moved.

753
01:11:05,790 --> 01:11:08,210
Those two cameras were that camera was counted twice.

754
01:11:08,450 --> 01:11:10,710
That's what accounts for the 28 cameras on the portal.

755
01:11:11,250 --> 01:11:12,350
See, so if you ask a question,

756
01:11:12,370 --> 01:11:14,230
I'm going to give you the answer, and I'm going to give you the truth.

757
01:11:14,230 --> 01:11:21,350
The reason you saw so many hits on our transparency portal is because we had every box checked

758
01:11:21,350 --> 01:11:24,930
off for the hot list, all right?

759
01:11:26,530 --> 01:11:33,550
Now, when I was a police officer, we ran plates randomly by hand.

760
01:11:34,090 --> 01:11:38,910
When you saw officers stop at a light or in a parking lot and you're checking a license plate,

761
01:11:38,910 --> 01:11:41,630
they were doing that by hand, all right?

762
01:11:42,270 --> 01:11:48,630
A flock camera does that. It's a machine. So we can do it 10,000 times faster than you may be.

763
01:11:49,170 --> 01:11:54,010
Right? Now, as far as hits, I'll educate you some more.

764
01:11:58,890 --> 01:12:09,650
The most hit on hot list topic, or is suspended license plates.

765
01:12:11,090 --> 01:12:18,790
Okay? We know that as officers. I'm giving to you in the public. That is a title 39 violation.

766
01:12:20,190 --> 01:12:27,670
All right? Let's take it. All right. Most police officers are not directly interested in that,

767
01:12:27,790 --> 01:12:34,310
but it is a hot list item and the camera will pick it up. All right. Now, on the transparency

768
01:12:34,310 --> 01:12:38,470
You saw NCIC, you saw Amber Liss, you saw DMV.

769
01:12:40,250 --> 01:12:44,810
Those are the platforms that the hot list is going to.

770
01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:48,610
A hot list kit can be, like I said, suspended license,

771
01:12:49,710 --> 01:12:53,430
suspended registration, stolen car, missing person,

772
01:12:54,230 --> 01:12:57,930
a sexual offense, an armed robbery, a homicide.

773
01:12:58,230 --> 01:12:59,830
I can go on and on and on.

774
01:13:00,170 --> 01:13:00,270
All right.

775
01:13:00,270 --> 01:13:03,470
If all those boxes are clicked off, you're going to get hits.

776
01:13:05,210 --> 01:13:10,990
We and New Jersey are not allowed to share our information with other states, but those

777
01:13:10,990 --> 01:13:13,830
states can share their information with us.

778
01:13:14,370 --> 01:13:17,010
Therefore we will get their hotly information.

779
01:13:18,250 --> 01:13:18,430
All right?

780
01:13:20,350 --> 01:13:26,470
Across the United States, and this is just a policing issue, every state has a different law.

781
01:13:27,330 --> 01:13:30,650
Some states release over requesting release everything.

782
01:13:31,350 --> 01:13:33,870
Some states restrict that.

783
01:13:34,070 --> 01:13:34,210
All right?

784
01:13:34,830 --> 01:13:37,390
Idaho, Falls, or Idaho, Idaho was the state.

785
01:13:38,090 --> 01:13:40,670
That was the state that released all the information

786
01:13:41,230 --> 01:13:43,950
that all these other people were able to get onslaught,

787
01:13:44,370 --> 01:13:46,390
including information from Franklin Township.

788
01:13:47,790 --> 01:13:47,890
All right?

789
01:13:48,210 --> 01:13:50,250
That's how the information got out there.

790
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:52,140
Okay?

791
01:13:52,780 --> 01:13:55,940
Now, again, we have a conversation.

792
01:13:55,940 --> 01:14:03,120
I don't blame you for your door process, I'm here to give you every answer to every question that you ask.

793
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,360
All right, as far as surveillance.

794
01:14:07,020 --> 01:14:09,900
Yes, it's terms surveillance.

795
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:11,820
It's security surveillance.

796
01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:23,600
There is no officer sitting behind a computer watching a TV or a monitor 24-7.

797
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:28,500
That's called a real-time crime center, not a big cities have it, New York, New York, Georgia,

798
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:34,740
city, they can afford to do that, all right, we can't hear, all right, ours is an

799
01:14:34,740 --> 01:14:41,420
investigation tool, it's one tool that we use in our investigations, all right.

800
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:45,160
The young lady here that says there's no, while do you have gunshot detection?

801
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:50,760
Well, because we have gunshots, it might not happen in your neighborhood, but that doesn't

802
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:57,240
it's not happening in Franklin Township. Okay? Okay. Be receptive. Don't shake your head, listen.

803
01:14:58,700 --> 01:14:59,960
We do have gun shots.

804
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:09,120
In Franklin Townsend. Mostly, we have two office of cars, which we call Area 1. It's right along the New Brunswick borderline.

805
01:15:09,480 --> 01:15:16,280
And anybody who's lived in Franklin Township for any amount of time knows that's where the majority of the gunshots occur.

806
01:15:18,140 --> 01:15:28,880
All right. So I had the opportunity to look. Since the year to date, there's been 32 gunshot calls in town.

807
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:37,820
So, that just goes to, as that means people either complaining that there were gunshots or the

808
01:15:37,820 --> 01:15:42,720
gunshot detector detected the gunshots and the police officers went to investigate.

809
01:15:43,300 --> 01:15:45,980
32 since January 1st.

810
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,540
No, 32 gunshots that were investigated as gunshots.

811
01:15:51,980 --> 01:15:53,940
32 reports of gunshots.

812
01:15:54,340 --> 01:15:56,080
Yes, that happens.

813
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:57,320
Lessons.

814
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,340
Again, the fireworks do occur.

815
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:03,160
Yeah.

816
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:04,620
And we know when they're fireworks.

817
01:16:04,780 --> 01:16:07,200
We know the difference between gunshots and fireworks.

818
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,640
Anybody who fires a gun knows the difference between gunshots and fireworks.

819
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:13,860
It's this thing.

820
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:14,700
Excuse me.

821
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,440
So let's not think to rock.

822
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:17,200
Let's listen.

823
01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:18,860
I didn't interrupt you when you were speaking.

824
01:16:19,260 --> 01:16:19,580
I listened.

825
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:20,960
All right.

826
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,320
All right.

827
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:29,500
distinct. If you hear them enough, you will know the difference between a gunshot and a fire cracker.

828
01:16:30,340 --> 01:16:35,020
All right? Those gunshot detectors, when we first got them,

829
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:39,900
yes, they had to train, they had to learn, but they know the difference between a gunshot and a firework.

830
01:16:40,300 --> 01:16:46,360
It's no other way to say it. All right? So do we sometimes get a card at backfires? That sounds

831
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:54,300
like a gunshot and the detector goes on? Yes. It occurs. All right? So the technology is

832
01:16:54,300 --> 01:16:56,480
It's not here to follow or surveil anyone.

833
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:01,440
It's here to assist us in doing police work, to do it faster.

834
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:07,100
You still need a good, whole-hearted police officer to investigate.

835
01:17:08,380 --> 01:17:14,780
And I said in September 11th meeting, it's where human beings and some people are going

836
01:17:14,780 --> 01:17:16,380
to try to abuse the technology.

837
01:17:16,500 --> 01:17:20,480
They're going to do it, but we have orders in place to mitigate those problems.

838
01:17:21,620 --> 01:17:24,880
You might get away with it once or twice, three times, four times.

839
01:17:25,060 --> 01:17:27,880
Some places I heard they've gotten away with it, 25, 100 times.

840
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,160
But who knows what their audit process was like?

841
01:17:30,500 --> 01:17:30,920
I don't.

842
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,180
So I cannot make any comment on that.

843
01:17:34,220 --> 01:17:36,100
Facts before acts, right?

844
01:17:36,940 --> 01:17:39,980
You guys spit out a lot of facts about what's happening with flot.

845
01:17:40,140 --> 01:17:43,620
Flot has some serious issues, they did, right?

846
01:17:44,020 --> 01:17:49,060
But all of the things that you guys point to with flot issues have not happened in New Jersey.

847
01:17:50,500 --> 01:17:55,210
They have not happened in New Jersey, and if you have the information, please share it with me.

848
01:17:56,260 --> 01:17:58,060
Please share it with me.

849
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,020
Please share it with me.

850
01:18:03,940 --> 01:18:08,160
I am adamant about keeping the community safe.

851
01:18:11,300 --> 01:18:14,720
The gunshot detection system, the flock cameras,

852
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:20,160
are, like I said, a tool that we use to help us in investigations.

853
01:18:22,500 --> 01:18:27,700
I support the system, you're all against the system, you feel like we're following you,

854
01:18:27,900 --> 01:18:29,660
but we're not following you.

855
01:18:29,980 --> 01:18:35,520
If you don't understand how the system works, the ALPR camera takes a picture of a license plate.

856
01:18:35,900 --> 01:18:36,040
Right?

857
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:37,420
That's just a license plate.

858
01:18:37,420 --> 01:18:50,000
You now have to have access to DMV, CGS, or NCIC, or any of these other databases in order to look up that person's information.

859
01:18:51,540 --> 01:18:54,380
DMV abuse was happening a long time ago.

860
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:59,740
People were looking up plates in DMV way back in the 80s.

861
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,600
Officers were abusing that back then.

862
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:07,600
When they had access to other databases, they were going those databases as well, right?

863
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:15,140
So, again, it's our job to mitigate and hold those offices accountable when they do something like that, right?

864
01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:18,220
For my police department, that has not happened.

865
01:19:19,020 --> 01:19:26,060
I haven't had any officers abuse their authority or privilege where flock is concerned or DMV is concerned.

866
01:19:27,260 --> 01:19:32,340
All right, our audits and our rules are so strict that if you run something in DMV, you're

867
01:19:32,340 --> 01:19:34,780
not even allowed to leave that piece of paper sitting on a desk.

868
01:19:35,460 --> 01:19:36,240
It has to be shredded.

869
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:48,520
All right, it is humbling, but I stand the ground to say, I hear where you're coming from,

870
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:53,120
anything that you want to explain, we can have a 101 conversation, we can have the conversation

871
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:53,600
here.

872
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,660
I'll explain to you how it happens.

873
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,980
I'll show you the, I'll show you and explain to you how the metric occurs.

874
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:11,000
Right? Everyone thinks of the, maybe the most egregious crimes when you hear hotly, but it's not the most egregious crimes.

875
01:20:12,060 --> 01:20:16,180
All right? Like I said, a suspended driver's license, not really a big deal.

876
01:20:17,020 --> 01:20:30,200
Forgetting to register your car, it happens a lot, right? We have a lot of elder people, right? The mayor fact that you don't inspect your car and do your registration at the same time, confuses a lot of people.

877
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:38,840
And they forget to register their car. So what are you suggest I do when I get a 77-year-old or 75-year-old who forget to register their car?

878
01:20:39,140 --> 01:20:47,160
He forgot. He forgot. He forgot. He didn't say 71.

879
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:47,640
I'm a man.

880
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,160
That's the same as 7, 7, 5, 7, 7, 7.

881
01:20:50,300 --> 01:20:56,720
But, what do I do with that person and it's two weeks, or maybe it's 30 days?

882
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:57,860
Right?

883
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,480
No, we're not stalking.

884
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:01,600
No?

885
01:21:02,300 --> 01:21:03,300
Not all the time.

886
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:05,260
No, not all the time.

887
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:05,920
No, not all the time.

888
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:05,960
No, not all the time.

889
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:06,380
Please.

890
01:21:06,620 --> 01:21:06,920
Yes?

891
01:21:07,300 --> 01:21:09,340
This is not a question.

892
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:11,320
No,

893
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:13,940
no.

894
01:21:13,940 --> 01:21:14,340
No, no.

895
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:15,540
No.

896
01:21:15,540 --> 01:21:22,100
So I'm trying to rebuff and answer the question that you all put out here, all right, and at the same time you do examples, right?

897
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:30,860
It is, I think, uh, more important to you to educate the person, and say, hey listen, you forgot to do your registration.

898
01:21:31,420 --> 01:21:33,740
You don't need to put me to tell your car, right, you were summoned.

899
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,420
Now, you do have all the services that are going to do it, all right?

900
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:44,680
I'm not saying that every officer is going to be that way, but at the same time, you stop a young person who forgot to register their car.

901
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:48,700
By the time I talk with them and come back, they have projects that they're growing a lot.

902
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:49,580
Right?

903
01:21:50,260 --> 01:21:51,100
It happens.

904
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:53,540
It has a lot to do with it.

905
01:21:55,040 --> 01:22:00,300
So it is the tool that the technology, like I said, is a tool that we use.

906
01:22:00,440 --> 01:22:01,830
Not something we use to surveillance anyone.

907
01:22:02,700 --> 01:22:04,340
Not something we use to follow anyone.

908
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:08,850
Not something that officers in my town should continually abuse.

909
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,960
Not something that officers sit and watch constantly.

910
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:18,680
We just don't have the time to do that and that is okay, okay, so why are we interrupting again?

911
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:26,880
No, excuse me. Why are you interrupting again? You can't you can't. Yes, I think you guys got a chance to talk

912
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,700
And when you were talking I didn't interrupt you. I listened

913
01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:40,080
No, sir, sir. You cannot one or one sir. Okay, outside outside. We can have it outside. Okay, we can have it outside. All right, so

914
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:48,860
As far as not letting anyone know, everything for flock was done by resolution, right?

915
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:55,120
It's all public information. You can see it. It's there. It's up here every time we have a council meeting.

916
01:22:55,540 --> 01:22:57,820
You can go back and watch the videos. They're all archive.

917
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,280
All right? You can look it up on a township website.

918
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:06,100
All right? No reason to hide. No reason to lie. All the information is there.

919
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:23,020
Excuse me, I said repeatedly, this is not the time for the public to speak, you spoke, you can, excuse me, excuse me.

920
01:23:23,060 --> 01:23:24,760
Answers aren't done yet sir.

921
01:23:25,260 --> 01:23:29,130
Excuse me sir, please, thank you.

922
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,260
Trying to run an organized meeting.

923
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,700
So I will make one correction of what you said,

924
01:23:34,700 --> 01:23:42,520
because I did get a demonstration today, a piece of the flux system. I saw the administrative

925
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:49,660
capability that is available, some of the administrative capability that is available

926
01:23:49,660 --> 01:24:00,040
in town. I take what you are people, people that would always, what you nice people,

927
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:05,940
what you grade people. I take seriously what you're saying. I honestly do.

928
01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:09,660
You feel that you

929
01:24:09,660 --> 01:24:19,080
are being, your privacy is being invaded and I get that. The council is going to hate me

930
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:23,480
for this, but the Ben Franklin quote, I'm sorry I can't leave it alone.

931
01:24:26,300 --> 01:24:27,800
So the thing that

932
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,960
started the whole revolution was the stamp act.

933
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,860
That was in 1765.

934
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:40,140
Ben Franklin was an on board with the separating

935
01:24:40,140 --> 01:24:43,020
until 1774.

936
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:45,980
And he wasn't really convinced about it

937
01:24:45,980 --> 01:24:50,320
until February of 1776 when he was humiliated

938
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:51,820
before the House of Commons.

939
01:24:52,380 --> 01:24:55,740
People think of that quote as him doing that,

940
01:24:55,740 --> 01:24:59,780
maybe at the convention trying to get his delegates to vote for.

941
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:06,500
Liberty for separating from Britain, or maybe afterwards trying to get people to fight.

942
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:18,700
He made that quote in 1755, and it was actually arguing for the liberty was the liberty to tax more

943
01:25:18,700 --> 01:25:25,200
for the colonial government. Not to tax less, not to fight for freedom was actually to

944
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:29,960
to fight more and the safety was about the French and Indian wars.

945
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,120
So the words, the words

946
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:40,160
may fit your cause, but you do not have the wisdom of Franklin behind you when you, when

947
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:45,010
you give that. And I'm sorry, I'm in history nerd and you just paid the price for that.

948
01:25:51,760 --> 01:26:00,570
The percentage of hit rate is, again, it depends on what boxes you checked.

949
01:26:00,730 --> 01:26:03,810
In other words, what crimes are you interested in?

950
01:26:04,190 --> 01:26:11,130
Sir, you're shaking your head now, but then they probably would have gotten similar results.

951
01:26:12,090 --> 01:26:14,950
I saw, excuse me, excuse me.

952
01:26:14,950 --> 01:26:20,930
I saw, as the boxes were being unchecked, I saw the rates go down.

953
01:26:21,770 --> 01:26:26,110
The biggest rate was for people, this is my correction.

954
01:26:26,890 --> 01:26:31,030
The biggest rate was for people who had forgotten to register their car.

955
01:26:32,270 --> 01:26:34,110
Thousands went away with that.

956
01:26:34,630 --> 01:26:40,170
When you checked only the things, the crimes that you and I would be interested in,

957
01:26:40,630 --> 01:26:43,030
the rate dropped to less than 1%.

958
01:26:43,030 --> 01:26:49,210
So everybody's checking different boxes, and I saw it demonstrated that that's what matters.

959
01:26:49,950 --> 01:26:53,810
So the answer that it was national numbers, that was incorrect.

960
01:26:54,350 --> 01:26:58,890
I think someone was taking a guess, trying to figure out why this is,

961
01:26:58,890 --> 01:27:02,910
and when they looked who would they excuse me, when they looked at it more,

962
01:27:03,470 --> 01:27:07,870
that they figured out that's what it was, and I saw that demonstrated today.

963
01:27:09,850 --> 01:27:14,730
Mr. Mayor, I think there's another important part about that, that it's not a ratio.

964
01:27:16,010 --> 01:27:20,990
The number of vehicles in 30 days is unique vehicles.

965
01:27:21,290 --> 01:27:32,330
That means that 640,000 unique vehicles had a photo of the rear of the vehicle taken.

966
01:27:32,330 --> 01:27:34,210
unique vehicles.

967
01:27:34,350 --> 01:27:36,910
So if we hit is not unique.

968
01:27:37,450 --> 01:27:46,470
If you are an unregistered vehicle and you pass the same camera 15 times a day for 30 days,

969
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:49,270
you're 450 hits.

970
01:27:49,810 --> 01:27:51,290
It's not unique.

971
01:27:52,190 --> 01:27:53,830
It's in the aggregate.

972
01:27:54,630 --> 01:28:01,670
So if those cameras are seeing unregistered vehicles traveling all around the township of Franklin,

973
01:28:01,670 --> 01:28:09,910
And those unregistered vehicles go past more than one camera and they go past more than one camera more days than one

974
01:28:09,910 --> 01:28:11,630
There's a numerical

975
01:28:12,630 --> 01:28:18,090
Increase that takes place on hits and that's for every

976
01:28:18,090 --> 01:28:19,470
violation

977
01:28:20,190 --> 01:28:26,470
Paperwork violation will call them for a vehicle and it's owner

978
01:28:26,470 --> 01:28:27,910
so

979
01:28:29,530 --> 01:28:35,410
unregistered, unlicensed, suspended license, suspended registration, and the list goes on.

980
01:28:35,970 --> 01:28:43,870
Anything that the Motor Vehicle Commission documents as a violation for that vehicle,

981
01:28:44,050 --> 01:28:49,290
or for the registered owner of that vehicle, then that vehicle becomes a head.

982
01:28:49,970 --> 01:28:52,030
It's a hit for an unlicensed driver.

983
01:28:52,150 --> 01:28:57,050
It's a hit for an unregistered vehicle, and every time it goes by a camera, it's a hit.

984
01:28:57,050 --> 01:29:06,150
So there is no numerical equation that takes the number of hits and compares it to unique vehicles.

985
01:29:07,490 --> 01:29:20,970
That's not a relevant comparison because you could have one vehicle that gets a thousand hits and you could have one vehicle that gets one.

986
01:29:20,970 --> 01:29:28,770
And every unique vehicle is considered a standalone entity on that 30-day cycle.

987
01:29:29,490 --> 01:29:31,550
So you can shake your head, but that's how it works.

988
01:29:32,710 --> 01:29:36,350
We're not my chance to talk to you, had yours, and we listened.

989
01:29:37,090 --> 01:29:39,050
That's the way the system works.

990
01:29:39,550 --> 01:29:48,450
And if you choose, pick list, MVC violations, it includes those motor vehicle violations.

991
01:29:51,310 --> 01:29:59,650
So, so when, so hey WS by the way, is Amazon Web Services, not American.

992
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:07,640
It has, Franklin does have administrative capabilities.

993
01:30:08,820 --> 01:30:17,940
Flag, flock does not own the data, flock does not own the data, flock does not sell the data,

994
01:30:18,460 --> 01:30:20,140
flock does not sell our data.

995
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:29,160
If you think flock sells our data, then please find me the name of someone it sold to, because

996
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:37,480
How do you prove that they don't say how does one prove that you don't say save the cell the data?

997
01:30:37,980 --> 01:30:43,980
That's like proving there is no mouse in the room. To do that, you have to look in every little place of the room.

998
01:30:44,260 --> 01:30:47,420
And you have to keep track that the mouse isn't running from place to place.

999
01:30:47,620 --> 01:30:54,660
It says you're looking. You can prove that there's a mouse in the room if you find a mouse.

1000
01:30:54,660 --> 01:30:58,780
But if you can't find the mouse, it's very hard to find it.

1001
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:00,840
So prove that they're selling the data.

1002
01:31:01,700 --> 01:31:10,740
I went to Google, chat, GPT, Claude, Grock, and I asked all of them.

1003
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:12,740
I'd want to buy block data.

1004
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,300
Please, how do I do that?

1005
01:31:16,420 --> 01:31:19,000
And it says, and it said, you can't.

1006
01:31:19,580 --> 01:31:22,620
Find me a place, find me a Martin, excuse me.

1007
01:31:22,620 --> 01:31:25,340
But excuse me, I'm making a point.

1008
01:31:25,780 --> 01:31:28,360
You find me a place where you can buy the data.

1009
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:30,140
Find me.

1010
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:31,960
Why were they selling it, too?

1011
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:44,900
They don't, they, we own the data, this is a nice rumor that is spread and people want

1012
01:31:44,900 --> 01:31:49,400
to hang on to it, but prove to me that they are selling data.

1013
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:50,900
I'm asking you to do that.

1014
01:31:51,260 --> 01:31:51,560
No.

1015
01:31:54,160 --> 01:32:01,560
So, now I'm not, I'm not sold on flock, I'm just, I'm trying to get to the truth, and there's

1016
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:04,460
a lot of mist in the way, getting to the truth.

1017
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,580
Council has made no decisions on flock.

1018
01:32:08,540 --> 01:32:10,940
I've made no final decisions on flock.

1019
01:32:11,460 --> 01:32:17,180
When you ask questions, I often go to them and ask questions, and ask those questions.

1020
01:32:17,180 --> 01:32:21,760
And I still have not made a decision on what to do.

1021
01:32:22,580 --> 01:32:25,820
I want safety and I want liberty.

1022
01:32:26,700 --> 01:32:29,680
And I want to try to balance the two.

1023
01:32:30,020 --> 01:32:31,480
We're coming up to 9-11.

1024
01:32:31,580 --> 01:32:35,520
We gave up some liberties for safety in that regard.

1025
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,860
When you go to an airport, it's not like it used to be.

1026
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:40,800
We gave up some liberties there.

1027
01:32:41,420 --> 01:32:42,560
I want to be.

1028
01:32:43,020 --> 01:32:45,280
I want to balance these things.

1029
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,980
And if we can get a balanced system, and that's great.

1030
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:50,520
If we can't, then we can't.

1031
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,660
But that is my goal as to understand the system.

1032
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:59,300
It's a very technically, difficult, or technically complicated

1033
01:32:59,300 --> 01:33:00,020
system.

1034
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:02,240
And I'm looking for that answer.

1035
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:05,200
Taxes.

1036
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,460
So yes, taxes went up.

1037
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:24,000
The tax, and I can show a nice graph of this, our taxes have gone up at about half the rate of inflation.

1038
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:29,900
So you can shake your head now, but I can show you the figures.

1039
01:33:30,180 --> 01:33:39,880
If you look at the CPI and you compare that, the increase in CPI to the increase in our levy, it's going up half as quickly.

1040
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:46,880
Excuse me, you know, excuse me.

1041
01:33:48,060 --> 01:33:49,900
Sir, it's on our website.

1042
01:33:50,440 --> 01:33:51,440
Sir, it's on our website.

1043
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:54,760
It's on the finance department website.

1044
01:33:55,140 --> 01:33:55,420
Go there.

1045
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,720
The presentation is there.

1046
01:33:58,100 --> 01:34:00,160
And you said, Bill, is it possible?

1047
01:34:05,020 --> 01:34:11,780
So the, also, the understanding of the fact that

1048
01:34:11,780 --> 01:34:17,500
assessments of going up. When assessments go up, we don't get more money for that.

1049
01:34:17,820 --> 01:34:26,980
Everyone forgets that the way taxes are calculated is dividing your, the amount of

1050
01:34:26,980 --> 01:34:32,820
that your assessment is by the total assessment of the town. So if the total assessment

1051
01:34:32,820 --> 01:34:42,640
of the town goes up, and your assessment goes up, and your neighbors go up, it doesn't mean

1052
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:46,580
your taxes go up, the your assessment,

1053
01:34:49,620 --> 01:34:53,680
the amount of money that we ask in the levy, that's

1054
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:59,960
the amount that we raise by taxes, and the school, and the county, that determines the

1055
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:08,040
How big the pie is. What your assessment does individually is determine what slice of the pie you will pay.

1056
01:35:08,580 --> 01:35:19,140
So the fact that your assessment doubles, if everyone's doubles, then you'd still pay the same tax with the exception of open space and library.

1057
01:35:19,580 --> 01:35:23,880
Those are tax differently, but they're well under 10% of your taxes.

1058
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:29,580
So we can't, we're not increasing assessments so we can get more money.

1059
01:35:30,060 --> 01:35:33,000
And I can talk to you in person about this more.

1060
01:35:33,500 --> 01:35:39,220
But the purpose of that graph was simply to show you that,

1061
01:35:39,220 --> 01:35:43,320
yes, we are sending you a $10,000 tax bill.

1062
01:35:44,700 --> 01:35:46,600
We are 13% of that.

1063
01:35:46,660 --> 01:35:50,940
We are $1,300 of that.

1064
01:35:50,940 --> 01:35:57,140
And we have control of, there's just a lot of taxes out there that we don't have control of.

1065
01:35:57,820 --> 01:36:00,740
And people, people misunderstand that.

1066
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:09,480
The opposition runs against us, making people believe that and reinforcing that.

1067
01:36:09,860 --> 01:36:12,880
We are 13% of your tax.

1068
01:36:15,660 --> 01:36:17,020
All right.

1069
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:19,340
Mr. Crattabell had a question.

1070
01:36:20,140 --> 01:36:25,540
I actually, I would like to answer Mr. Crataville's question, and it's a two part, and you'll

1071
01:36:25,540 --> 01:36:27,140
get a qualified apology, Charlie.

1072
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:34,100
The qualified apology is that while I may have been wrong, the basis for my mistake was

1073
01:36:34,100 --> 01:36:40,140
that I was based again on the State of New Jersey Department of Community Affairs Division

1074
01:36:40,140 --> 01:36:46,860
of Local Government Services, Local Finance Board, Local Government Ethics Law Financial

1075
01:36:46,860 --> 01:36:48,100
Disclosure Statements.

1076
01:36:48,100 --> 01:36:52,980
Are you familiar with that form? I believe you are. Don't answer me. We're not supposed to exchange

1077
01:36:52,980 --> 01:36:58,360
That form for every elected official in the state of New Jersey says

1078
01:36:59,220 --> 01:36:59,900
temporarily

1079
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:11,860
Redacted to ensure compliance with Daniel's law. Now, I am subject to Daniel's law based on my prior employment here in the township before I became the township manager

1080
01:37:11,860 --> 01:37:13,300
so I am

1081
01:37:13,860 --> 01:37:15,960
able to take advantage of

1082
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:17,100
Daniel's law

1083
01:37:17,100 --> 01:37:23,660
And so I'm certainly familiar with who is eligible for protection under Daniel's law.

1084
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:33,800
However, I can't explain to you why it says that on the state website for every one of these elected officials that sit up here on the days.

1085
01:37:34,440 --> 01:37:44,700
So I would suggest that you direct that question to the division of the Department of Community Affairs as to why it has it redacted on every form.

1086
01:37:44,700 --> 01:37:57,180
We had to go through a redaction process for Daniel's law here in all of our property tax payment online listings anyone who qualifies for Daniel's law has to have their information

1087
01:37:57,180 --> 01:38:04,020
Redacted on all of our website information wherever it might be. It was it was quite the task

1088
01:38:04,660 --> 01:38:10,100
I don't know why it's like that but that that's why you get a qualified one

1089
01:38:10,100 --> 01:38:15,920
Yes, I know that it is not for elected officials, but I don't understand why the state of New Jersey

1090
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:19,660
redacts elected officials' information under Daniel's law.

1091
01:38:20,440 --> 01:38:21,240
If I can't.

1092
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:25,780
You can finish that, Mr. H. You know, and I, of course, Mayor, I also know what the

1093
01:38:25,780 --> 01:38:30,600
definition of public official is and who's covered by Daniel's law and who wasn't.

1094
01:38:30,660 --> 01:38:36,480
Mr. Crattabell was referring to a conversation in public that Mr. Forelocker and I had about

1095
01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:39,260
what the DCA disclosure form says.

1096
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:40,840
And I did the same thing he did.

1097
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:42,400
I pulled up on my computer.

1098
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:44,660
I pulled my own up because, you know,

1099
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,600
I'm sure Charlie, you've checked it 10,000 times.

1100
01:38:47,860 --> 01:38:51,060
It lists every public position that I hold.

1101
01:38:51,420 --> 01:38:54,240
And it redacts my home address because of Daniel's law.

1102
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:57,780
I'm just, you know, that was the discussion we were having.

1103
01:38:58,180 --> 01:39:01,420
Obviously, I, on the other hand, am not covered by Daniel's law.

1104
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:02,840
Because I'm not a former judge.

1105
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:04,200
I'm not a former prosecutor.

1106
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:06,980
though I did clerk in the prosecutor's office in my

1107
01:39:06,980 --> 01:39:11,720
moth County, 105 years ago, maybe before there was a

1108
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:17,400
Daniel's law. So I, and I can't explain that, but that was

1109
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,980
the discussion we were having in public. It wasn't a general

1110
01:39:19,980 --> 01:39:22,980
discussion about what Daniel's law covers. There was a question

1111
01:39:22,980 --> 01:39:25,360
about the financial disclosure statement. In fact, I didn't answer

1112
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:28,620
the question first. Mr. Vornlacher did, and I just

1113
01:39:28,620 --> 01:39:31,380
timed in about what DC access. So that's the answer to you. I

1114
01:39:31,380 --> 01:39:33,860
hope that answers your question. I didn't, by the way, didn't

1115
01:39:33,860 --> 01:39:36,300
to be disrespectful, but that was the answer.

1116
01:39:37,620 --> 01:39:43,420
So, can someone have Mr. Rogers come back?

1117
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:44,940
Mr. Ho?

1118
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:49,720
Oh, I think he's engaged with a resident in the lobby.

1119
01:39:49,780 --> 01:39:51,840
I know, but Sasha had it, Sasha.

1120
01:39:52,740 --> 01:39:54,760
Okay, and we'll have him come back.

1121
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:56,520
I can address them.

1122
01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:59,000
Sunji?

1123
01:39:59,020 --> 01:39:59,980
Sunji?

1124
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:05,220
He's coming back in. I can do one quickly for you before he gets back up your mayor.

1125
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:11,380
So, she asked how long is the contract with Block?

1126
01:40:11,620 --> 01:40:15,920
How long is the contract with Block? Three years, four years, four years, four years, four years.

1127
01:40:16,140 --> 01:40:19,960
What are the consequences of ending the contract? Two years are already gone.

1128
01:40:20,300 --> 01:40:22,300
So, two left, two left. Thank you.

1129
01:40:23,300 --> 01:40:28,260
What are the consequences of ending the contract with Block?

1130
01:40:28,260 --> 01:40:30,880
Like we just say, we're done right now.

1131
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:32,400
God, this is a big mistake, right?

1132
01:40:35,730 --> 01:40:39,070
I think I'd have to look at the track to answer that question.

1133
01:40:39,290 --> 01:40:41,230
I don't know if the top of my head either.

1134
01:40:42,270 --> 01:40:45,730
And use the mic to answer this, do we coordinate with new guns

1135
01:40:45,730 --> 01:40:47,810
we've got a placement of flock cams?

1136
01:40:48,990 --> 01:40:49,230
Yes.

1137
01:40:49,950 --> 01:40:52,890
Anytime you, anytime a flock cam heart is installed,

1138
01:40:53,230 --> 01:40:54,790
there's a process called deconfliction.

1139
01:40:55,370 --> 01:40:57,410
And you have to deconflict with all the other police departments

1140
01:40:57,410 --> 01:41:00,590
that have a camera so that your camera does not join us in the area.

1141
01:41:02,850 --> 01:41:08,690
And I understand it, but it's not just where we would de-conflict with Ms. Runzwick.

1142
01:41:09,170 --> 01:41:14,110
There are county and state law enforcement agencies that also have placement of cameras.

1143
01:41:14,710 --> 01:41:20,590
For instance, to state police, who is the largest recipient of funds from the grant for ALPRs,

1144
01:41:21,770 --> 01:41:27,850
is the responsible party for cameras on state highways, such as Route 1 to 87,

1145
01:41:27,850 --> 01:41:34,110
at the turnpike, the Parkway, wherever there may be ALPR cameras, they fall into the money

1146
01:41:34,110 --> 01:41:41,530
that was received through Governor Murphy's program for the state highway.

1147
01:41:42,030 --> 01:41:43,470
So that's the de-confliction.

1148
01:41:43,530 --> 01:41:47,510
Don't put one here if there's already one here from another agency.

1149
01:41:48,570 --> 01:41:50,770
So that's part of the whole state program.

1150
01:41:53,190 --> 01:42:03,170
And that design include coordination as to where private cameras are, so, for instance, if a community has a license plate, the data is correct.

1151
01:42:03,810 --> 01:42:08,470
Right. And because there are private communities that need four or five cameras.

1152
01:42:09,250 --> 01:42:20,750
They're not entitled to, they're not entitled to. They're not entitled to the data, only law enforcement can get the data that's retrieved from those privately paid.

1153
01:42:20,750 --> 01:42:25,830
for cameras, but there are, there are, in fact, privately paid for cameras.

1154
01:42:26,290 --> 01:42:27,250
Oh, over there.

1155
01:42:27,470 --> 01:42:28,650
Is that the last one?

1156
01:42:28,830 --> 01:42:29,570
That American one.

1157
01:42:29,610 --> 01:42:30,350
I think so.

1158
01:42:30,690 --> 01:42:34,850
I was going to talk about Churchill Avenue, because my experience is

1159
01:42:34,850 --> 01:42:36,610
weighted very patiently in the back of the room.

1160
01:42:36,670 --> 01:42:38,390
And I can give just a basic answer here.

1161
01:42:39,370 --> 01:42:44,610
One, there are now 23 habitat for humanity homes.

1162
01:42:45,250 --> 01:42:48,150
The majority of them are in the fourth and fifth words.

1163
01:42:48,150 --> 01:43:07,510
There are also a number of them in the second ward and the reason why they are where they are is because that's where the land was that the township owned that were buildable locks that we could give to them.

1164
01:43:07,510 --> 01:43:14,350
We can't give them land that we don't own, and we don't own buildable locks in the third ward.

1165
01:43:14,730 --> 01:43:17,550
We don't own buildable locks in the first ward.

1166
01:43:18,830 --> 01:43:27,590
A regular practice since I became Township Manager back in 2012 is that I sit at various times

1167
01:43:27,590 --> 01:43:34,430
with the planner, Mark Healey, and we go through the entire inventory of vacant land

1168
01:43:34,430 --> 01:43:41,010
that the township owns to determine if it is of some use to us and if it is capable of being

1169
01:43:41,010 --> 01:43:48,590
build it on a built on and if there's a lot of different factors that go into that and if

1170
01:43:48,590 --> 01:43:59,650
and we have provided that list of locks that can be built on that the township owns and we've given

1171
01:43:59,650 --> 01:44:01,890
at least to habitat for humanity.

1172
01:44:02,550 --> 01:44:05,210
And over time, they have gone through that list

1173
01:44:05,210 --> 01:44:07,170
and they've employed their professionals

1174
01:44:07,650 --> 01:44:10,990
to make a determination as to whether their professionals

1175
01:44:10,990 --> 01:44:15,990
feel it's a buildable lot, meaning it has sufficient building

1176
01:44:15,990 --> 01:44:19,370
envelope outside of wetlands and all of the things

1177
01:44:19,370 --> 01:44:23,130
that go along with a dangerous professional civil engineer.

1178
01:44:23,330 --> 01:44:26,150
And they make that determination in this particular case

1179
01:44:26,150 --> 01:44:36,330
And why I appreciate that it is a 50 by 185 or 185 foot lot, there are other homes in your

1180
01:44:36,330 --> 01:44:41,710
neighborhood that are on similar sized lots, especially those across the street from you.

1181
01:44:42,370 --> 01:44:47,010
So that, and I don't want to get into that because one of the things I just want to warn is that

1182
01:44:47,010 --> 01:44:55,470
if in fact the plan for habitat for humanity for this parcel will be that when we

1183
01:44:55,470 --> 01:44:59,970
the property to them their next step is to develop a plan.

1184
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,700
And to bring to the Board of Adjustment, which this statute Council can't comment on.

1185
01:45:05,740 --> 01:45:11,120
So that's, you, you said it, and when you were up at the microphone, and you were absolutely 100% correct.

1186
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:21,040
Your next step, and anyone else who lives in the neighborhood, is when that application is made to the zoning board, to attend the zoning board, and make your feelings hurt.

1187
01:45:21,340 --> 01:45:29,640
This is something that if the zoning board denies the application, then habitat for humanity, will tell the township they're going to deed the property back to us.

1188
01:45:31,440 --> 01:45:33,300
That's how this would work.

1189
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:40,320
So there's no commentary on any application or anything like that because there's the

1190
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:46,660
quasi-judicial board that has to make an independent decision, but that's where it would

1191
01:45:46,660 --> 01:45:46,760
go.

1192
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:48,340
So you're right about that.

1193
01:45:49,480 --> 01:45:50,120
Mr. Rullocker.

1194
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:51,280
I just have a question.

1195
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:59,220
We're being asked to vote specifically on what related to Habitat was a first question tonight

1196
01:45:59,220 --> 01:46:01,300
because I'm looking for the resolution.

1197
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:03,980
And the other question is, not a resolution.

1198
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:04,340
It's an order.

1199
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:06,900
So ordinance, that's probably probably couldn't find a resolution.

1200
01:46:07,060 --> 01:46:07,620
Thank you.

1201
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:12,880
So I just want to know, I'm not here to judge the house.

1202
01:46:12,980 --> 01:46:14,300
I'm a big support habitat humanity.

1203
01:46:14,980 --> 01:46:18,220
But what is the zoning in that area?

1204
01:46:20,500 --> 01:46:24,320
I believe that it's our 10, 10, or 10.

1205
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:25,820
OK, 10, OK.

1206
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:26,900
It's all in square for a lot.

1207
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:27,560
Right.

1208
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:30,580
And our 10, which is a 10,000 square foot lot.

1209
01:46:30,580 --> 01:46:32,660
and this is just under 10,000.

1210
01:46:32,780 --> 01:46:33,360
Well, that's what I was saying.

1211
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:34,920
OK, that's what I was just getting out of this,

1212
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:37,960
because we're not here to make decisions for the zoning board,

1213
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:41,160
but we're voting, we need to be comfortable and what we're voting on.

1214
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:46,940
So it is indeed our 10, because the numbers of sounds like a lot of locks,

1215
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:52,180
or like our 20, but it is our 10, and this one is basically at the board.

1216
01:46:52,660 --> 01:46:54,840
And that's up to the zoning board to deal with.

1217
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:56,760
$5.50 by $195.00.

1218
01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:57,940
I did while I'm close.

1219
01:46:58,120 --> 01:46:58,500
$1,000.00.

1220
01:46:58,600 --> 01:46:59,220
Yeah, okay.

1221
01:46:59,480 --> 01:47:00,880
$1,700.25.

1222
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:02,800
And just stuff.

1223
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:04,100
It's worth a lot in art.

1224
01:47:04,620 --> 01:47:05,940
I don't want to ask the audience.

1225
01:47:06,380 --> 01:47:12,460
But I know, legitimate concern is off street parking.

1226
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:16,940
And that's up to how it's designed and how they don't even

1227
01:47:16,940 --> 01:47:17,720
board handles it.

1228
01:47:18,020 --> 01:47:18,620
But you block.

1229
01:47:18,780 --> 01:47:19,520
I'm sure there's room.

1230
01:47:19,740 --> 01:47:20,160
But my question.

1231
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:24,460
The other ones usually, and I've seen a few on the 50 foot wide,

1232
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,260
in the fourth and fifth, which I represent,

1233
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:32,460
it's not mandatory that they have off-street parking,

1234
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:37,800
but this would be a lot that would allow mandatory that they have off-street.

1235
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:40,240
Well, I don't want to speak for the zoning board.

1236
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:49,260
I'm telling you that the issue is if they have to get zoning ordinances, they have to go to the zoning board.

1237
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:51,660
They have expressed interest in this property.

1238
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:53,540
It is of no use to the town.

1239
01:47:53,540 --> 01:47:59,860
got it. We have no use for it. It's in fact I would consider a new sense property because

1240
01:47:59,860 --> 01:48:03,500
it at things on this property have caused damage to neighboring problems.

1241
01:48:03,500 --> 01:48:07,820
Don't have to oversell. And that's why I just wanted to make sure to do what the zoning was.

1242
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:15,340
To improve the parcel. But if there's a reason why the zoning board would deny it,

1243
01:48:15,460 --> 01:48:19,980
we're not here to discuss it. I just want to know what the zoning was in the size of a lot.

1244
01:48:19,980 --> 01:48:21,340
Thank you for the clarification.

1245
01:48:22,340 --> 01:48:24,520
I have a couple of questions, man.

1246
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:25,400
Sure.

1247
01:48:26,740 --> 01:48:29,380
So actually, I was hoping that director would be here.

1248
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:34,580
But Bob, I'm going to be dependent on you to answer these two questions.

1249
01:48:34,820 --> 01:48:36,900
So there were some comments about that.

1250
01:48:37,340 --> 01:48:40,900
The block camera's costing taxpayers a lot of money.

1251
01:48:41,420 --> 01:48:41,620
Can you?

1252
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:44,240
I already discussed that up until this point.

1253
01:48:44,340 --> 01:48:45,720
It hasn't costed taxpayers, anybody.

1254
01:48:45,900 --> 01:48:47,660
Because it was funded by a grant.

1255
01:48:47,660 --> 01:48:54,780
from the state of New Jersey specifically for a statewide ALPR program. Very good. The second question

1256
01:48:54,780 --> 01:49:05,400
that I have is we've heard a lot about different boxes. Is it possible to check individual boxes

1257
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:14,100
and let's say in 2020 sex to see how many of those detection was associated, for example,

1258
01:49:14,100 --> 01:49:20,680
but the people that they had not done their registration and so forth and how many of them

1259
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:20,940
were there?

1260
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:22,340
Thank you, table of that.

1261
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:22,920
Was that?

1262
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:24,200
There's a table that shows.

1263
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:31,140
So is that public information that we can maybe make it available for people to see how these

1264
01:49:31,140 --> 01:49:36,740
cameras have been helpful in solving some crimes or so forth?

1265
01:49:37,500 --> 01:49:47,140
I'm not sure that would answer that question in my opinion it should be, it should be available to the public.

1266
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:51,200
I'm not an Oprah expert.

1267
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:57,500
I don't think there's an issue when you're talking about raw data like that of being.

1268
01:49:58,240 --> 01:49:59,980
Because it's a rolling 30 months.

1269
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:07,440
That's 30 days. That's one of the issues with the transparency page. It's a rolling 30 days. So it changes every day, right? It's a new 30 day period.

1270
01:50:07,780 --> 01:50:15,620
If you wanted to take a moment and time a snapshot of periods of time, I think that that could be done.

1271
01:50:16,440 --> 01:50:28,120
And it would say, in the month of May, there were 357,000 hits. And here's what they were.

1272
01:50:28,660 --> 01:50:48,560
And it's going to be cat, it would be categories, these were motor vehicle violations, these were missing persons, these were cry, and I think that there's probably some ability to do that based on what I've learned from the people, but the mayor seems to know more than me because he got a first-hand demonstration.

1273
01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:52,900
I know people in the police department exactly.

1274
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:59,520
And Mr. Singh has been extremely eager to have a

1275
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,180
fact, a flock, a flock, wow.

1276
01:51:02,540 --> 01:51:04,720
I thank you.

1277
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,660
To explain these kinds of things.

1278
01:51:10,440 --> 01:51:13,120
And we're going to uncheck some of the boxes,

1279
01:51:13,380 --> 01:51:16,340
and we need to explain which boxes we're going to uncheck.

1280
01:51:17,620 --> 01:51:19,240
Again, it's very complicated.

1281
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:23,620
I want to move on Mr. Walker asked about sidewalks.

1282
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:26,440
I'm not in a game-fen direction and she did.

1283
01:51:26,540 --> 01:51:29,340
Oh, but everyone I want to know.

1284
01:51:31,620 --> 01:51:33,700
What do people do when there's an on the...

1285
01:51:33,700 --> 01:51:36,640
They'd come today, send a notice to the Public Works Department,

1286
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:42,340
either through the website for the website request form,

1287
01:51:43,460 --> 01:51:45,100
or they contact them by phone.

1288
01:51:45,100 --> 01:51:47,440
And something is a mess away.

1289
01:51:47,440 --> 01:51:48,820
I'm here to just make a comment.

1290
01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:51,220
I'm going to talk to the police for a minute.

1291
01:51:51,460 --> 01:51:51,860
Go ahead.

1292
01:51:53,060 --> 01:51:55,960
So I was in Canada the summer.

1293
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:58,480
I spent a few weeks to visit my daughter.

1294
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:01,780
And so one of the things that I saw in their sidewalks

1295
01:52:01,780 --> 01:52:05,720
is that there was some blocks that were a little bit higher,

1296
01:52:06,300 --> 01:52:07,360
potentially for tripping.

1297
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:09,700
But they had done shaved that.

1298
01:52:09,900 --> 01:52:13,960
So there was basically eliminated the kids from falling down

1299
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:17,200
when they are skating or right and right.

1300
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:20,220
So I brought to a scholarship manager

1301
01:52:20,220 --> 01:52:21,220
the station as well.

1302
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:23,740
So I'd like to follow up on that shift.

1303
01:52:23,900 --> 01:52:30,240
There's a way that we can kind of shave those.

1304
01:52:30,820 --> 01:52:36,540
We have found no contractor or reference

1305
01:52:36,540 --> 01:52:42,300
to any type of correction to sidewalks and anything

1306
01:52:42,300 --> 01:52:48,300
that we have at our disposal, both Carl Halk, the Public Works Manager, and I looked

1307
01:52:48,300 --> 01:52:57,500
into finding someone or something, and so I'll tell you what, Deputy Mayor, send me the

1308
01:52:57,500 --> 01:52:58,600
town that you were in.

1309
01:52:58,780 --> 01:52:59,440
I was in an Ottawa.

1310
01:53:00,140 --> 01:53:00,840
Oh, okay.

1311
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:05,660
So, I mean, so I, I guess, pictures of, so if you have pictures sent them to me, because

1312
01:53:05,660 --> 01:53:10,540
I would love to talk to the Ottawa Public Works Department now, obviously, a much larger city

1313
01:53:10,540 --> 01:53:15,640
than Franklin Township, and perhaps they bought heavy-duty grinding equipment, but I don't know.

1314
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:19,980
I don't know where it is going either, Mr. Mayor, but I seem to be straight off top of

1315
01:53:19,980 --> 01:53:25,180
the answering questions. I'll look into two maybe. I do have the answers to another question,

1316
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:33,140
Mr. Mayor. Oh, go ahead. Okay. So, the nice lady from 12 Winchester. There you are,

1317
01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:37,680
right in front of me. No, 1222. I'm sorry, 1222. I can't read like that. That's right.

1318
01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:38,960
That's where I was going next.

1319
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:42,800
Canobus, dispensary, I write here on the right down the street.

1320
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:47,180
So it's interesting, the cannabis dispensary here

1321
01:53:47,180 --> 01:53:51,000
is one of what we have set by ordinance.

1322
01:53:51,620 --> 01:53:53,860
There was a lot of concern by council

1323
01:53:53,860 --> 01:53:57,980
as the cannabis businesses began to explode here in our town.

1324
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:00,760
And they capped it in 18.

1325
01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:03,780
We exceed 18 right now.

1326
01:54:03,820 --> 01:54:05,580
I think we're down to 21.

1327
01:54:05,580 --> 01:54:14,440
two of them have gone out of business. Some have not yet opened, for instance, this one here at the corner has not yet opened.

1328
01:54:15,460 --> 01:54:21,520
So it is a total of licenses of right now I believe 21 valid active.

1329
01:54:23,100 --> 01:54:29,820
This is where there was a zoning board hearing for this business.

1330
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:37,920
And so I like you having difficult time wrapping my head around this, sometimes that's why

1331
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:43,140
I kind of want to be the one to answer this, because I don't, I won't look to my left.

1332
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:48,740
I voted no when there was a vote in this state for cannabis because I didn't think it

1333
01:54:48,740 --> 01:54:53,400
should be legal, but I lost and we have to live with the fact that the majority of the

1334
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:56,840
people in this state voted to legalize it and we did.

1335
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:59,980
And that made it a business like every

1336
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:28,680
And this location is what they call a pre-existing non-conforming use. It's been a business since the 1920s, when there were gas pumps out there. And when it's a pre-existing non-conforming use, pretty much any business cannot occupy that space. And the state has no laws about distance from schools or anything like that.

1337
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:36,480
So, it's a legal business in a legal place, and that's why it's being allowed there by the zoning board.

1338
01:55:36,940 --> 01:55:45,600
But they have to interpret, pre-existing, non-conforming, whenever that situation exists, because it is actually in an R40 zone.

1339
01:55:46,500 --> 01:55:48,540
So, your questions are good.

1340
01:55:49,460 --> 01:55:54,280
That's, I think, the answers that you were looking for as far as numbers are concerned.

1341
01:55:54,280 --> 01:56:08,980
So revenue is so we collect 2% of all their net income, I'm sorry gross, gross, gross income.

1342
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:20,080
We collect 2% of all the gross income from most cannabis businesses, meaning there's dispensaries, there's wholesale operations,

1343
01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:29,280
there's cultivators, manufacturing is 1% everyone else is 2% and thus so far

1344
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:34,680
this year and I'll look over and maybe he'll not at me because I send them to

1345
01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:41,120
Mr. Bowman for publication. I believe as a result of the second quarter we are

1346
01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:47,200
at about the $600,000 range which means we're probably being about the the

1347
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:58,200
1.2 million dollar range for the year, for the calendar year, in revenue tax revenue from those businesses.

1348
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:08,880
So yes, and that tax revenue, the council has made the decision and I believe as the manager who prepares the budget to write decision,

1349
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:14,840
that that is general fund revenue it is just general tax revenue it is treated

1350
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:19,180
no differently than the tax revenue that we collect from you as a homeowner it

1351
01:57:19,180 --> 01:57:23,500
goes into the general fund for use in the next year's budget

1352
01:57:27,180 --> 01:57:28,260
I think that was

1353
01:57:28,260 --> 01:57:34,200
all the ones that oh noise so traffic it what is the traffic signal there to be

1354
01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:38,440
perfectly honest with you I don't anticipate that's a busy belly it was a bike

1355
01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:42,260
shop before there's a hair salon there I don't anticipate that this will

1356
01:57:42,260 --> 01:57:45,020
increase traffic in any significant way.

1357
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:47,820
Just looking at the way that others are,

1358
01:57:47,940 --> 01:57:50,180
I pass one on my way to work and back every day,

1359
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:51,600
and I have a background in traffic

1360
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:52,920
for my days in a police department.

1361
01:57:53,180 --> 01:57:55,080
I would not anticipate that that business

1362
01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:58,560
will increase the traffic over its current uses.

1363
01:57:59,340 --> 01:58:01,900
Noise, 10pm, you're absolutely right.

1364
01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:05,720
It's 10pm, I think the director heard you loud and clear.

1365
01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:09,740
Noise, the noise ordinance is clear,

1366
01:58:09,740 --> 01:58:16,760
that anything that's heard from a 200-foot distance is a violation.

1367
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:20,400
This is the real property line thing went away.

1368
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:24,420
If you're having a party and I can hear your party 200 feet away,

1369
01:58:24,700 --> 01:58:25,360
you're a violation.

1370
01:58:26,100 --> 01:58:28,880
And that's what the ordinance says, and it's in plain English.

1371
01:58:29,320 --> 01:58:32,240
We wrote it that way, so it was not difficult to interpret

1372
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:36,860
by both the people enforcing it and the people having to enforce it on them.

1373
01:58:36,860 --> 01:58:47,480
So 10 p.m., after 10, they're a violator, and I agree with you, and I will emphasize that again in private when I'm in private.

1374
01:58:51,750 --> 01:58:53,030
Think I got them all Mr. Mayor.

1375
01:58:53,210 --> 01:58:55,130
I think we're done.

1376
01:58:55,570 --> 01:58:56,390
I have one comment.

1377
01:58:57,010 --> 01:58:57,450
Absolutely.

1378
01:58:57,790 --> 01:58:59,450
About the solar panel, the balcony.

1379
01:59:00,130 --> 01:59:04,030
So I'm just one, I'm a big proponent of solar panels.

1380
01:59:04,270 --> 01:59:05,090
I have them in my home.

1381
01:59:05,090 --> 01:59:14,390
great, I didn't feel the pinch of the, what is that, that rate increase of a PHNG this year,

1382
01:59:14,750 --> 01:59:22,490
because I don't pay electric bills. So it's a good bill. I think people would start to use it,

1383
01:59:22,550 --> 01:59:27,810
especially people living in apartments and those who cannot really put solar panels on their home.

1384
01:59:28,070 --> 01:59:32,150
But please make sure it is UL-3700 compliant.

1385
01:59:32,150 --> 01:59:38,390
just don't go and get something from Amazon, and that is not, you will 3700 complaint.

1386
01:59:38,970 --> 01:59:44,570
Well, and you talk about it, if you, so that this is a good segue, you made a comment about

1387
01:59:44,570 --> 01:59:50,570
not being able to have solar panels on your roof. Some people who live in HOA properties,

1388
01:59:50,930 --> 01:59:55,850
things like that can have solar on a roof, a pool of an apartment, it can have solar on your

1389
01:59:55,850 --> 01:59:59,590
right, but you can, in a way. If you go to our website

1390
02:00:00,020 --> 02:00:16,520
And go to the community solar programs that are operating here. Community solar gives you the opportunity to reap the benefits of solar, and not have it on your roof.

1391
02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:26,620
Most of those solar panels are located on the various warehouses in large manufacturing facilities that we have here in town.

1392
02:00:26,620 --> 02:00:30,820
And that's a program that the state BPU started.

1393
02:00:31,620 --> 02:00:36,860
It allows these solar communities solar companies

1394
02:00:37,620 --> 02:00:41,680
to install these solar panels on the roofs of these big buildings

1395
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:46,380
and then offer the benefits of those solar panels

1396
02:00:46,380 --> 02:00:48,460
to the residents who live in the town.

1397
02:00:49,340 --> 02:00:51,620
So it's on our website under special programs,

1398
02:00:51,800 --> 02:00:53,160
I think, as where it's set.

1399
02:00:53,160 --> 02:00:59,700
And if you're interested in that, you should explore that it can give you a benefit on your electric bill.

1400
02:01:00,740 --> 02:01:04,480
It's not third party energy aggregation or anything like that.

1401
02:01:04,740 --> 02:01:08,260
It's just a benefit that you repon your bill.

1402
02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:10,140
And it's available to anyone.

1403
02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:12,880
There's no income requirements.

1404
02:01:14,700 --> 02:01:15,680
So on our website.

1405
02:01:17,500 --> 02:01:28,680
Just to close, I think Councilwoman Woodeen is going to have a session on balcony solar act very

1406
02:01:28,680 --> 02:01:32,880
soon, and she's going to give you more information on all of that.

1407
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:43,300
I think that's it for addressing the public comments.

1408
02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:46,760
Time for Council comments.

1409
02:01:46,760 --> 02:01:53,120
it's nine o'clock and we haven't started the business of the meeting. How about if we do a two-minute

1410
02:01:53,120 --> 02:01:58,230
council clock in the objection?

1411
02:02:01,570 --> 02:02:02,050
Yeah.

1412
02:02:04,930 --> 02:02:10,010
Are you starting with me first? Yes. All right. How yield you 15 seconds?

1413
02:02:10,650 --> 02:02:15,570
I love you, Robin. Real quick on the point that noise I understand that for the world, the

1414
02:02:15,570 --> 02:02:21,990
temperature management was on the schedule because that was the thing I had to fight for in the

1415
02:02:21,990 --> 02:02:26,490
the noise and we have to beat them up on that system. So I understand that very well.

1416
02:02:28,810 --> 02:02:35,430
Also, when the tax is of a kind of this issue, I'm like my colleagues, I want to go the other way.

1417
02:02:35,970 --> 02:02:40,930
I thought that we could use that money for social action programs. As our attorney will tell you,

1418
02:02:41,070 --> 02:02:46,390
I emailed him and asked him about things that I could use the money for, but we put in our

1419
02:02:46,390 --> 02:02:51,010
Council of Treasury, and I would prefer to have to put it in programs that benefit

1420
02:02:51,010 --> 02:02:56,650
to be on choice of words, that we could use for social programs.

1421
02:02:58,550 --> 02:03:01,230
But that's the whole other bottlenecks there.

1422
02:03:02,410 --> 02:03:09,810
Also, coming up, something near and dear to me, it's called System Assistant there, annual

1423
02:03:10,610 --> 02:03:12,690
walk in the park.

1424
02:03:13,990 --> 02:03:20,130
The 21 years, the systems have a run walk for like what our community together to celebrate

1425
02:03:20,130 --> 02:03:25,350
survivors, honor loved ones, and stand the sun, and stand the sun, and stand the sun,

1426
02:03:25,350 --> 02:03:28,970
and wind, and friends, impact the water, and race cancer.

1427
02:03:29,850 --> 02:03:34,730
Some walk in celebration of survivorship, some walk in memory of someone they love.

1428
02:03:34,910 --> 02:03:39,790
I was walking because they believed every woman deserves support, compassion, and hope.

1429
02:03:39,790 --> 02:03:43,910
throughout the West Cancer Treatment.

1430
02:03:43,910 --> 02:03:47,150
It will be held Saturday, October 3, 2021,

1431
02:03:48,010 --> 02:03:50,270
and Columbia Park here in Summester.

1432
02:03:51,830 --> 02:03:54,270
Now, welcome to the program.

1433
02:03:54,710 --> 02:04:02,770
Donate County, 14 that will go out and raise the money together.

1434
02:04:03,010 --> 02:04:04,330
And I'll give you the website.

1435
02:04:04,330 --> 02:04:13,370
It is asked to ask number two, ask to ask C and J dot order.

1436
02:04:13,790 --> 02:04:19,110
Again, ask, ask, ask C and J dot order.

1437
02:04:19,730 --> 02:04:23,690
Also, being a cancer survivor, it's very important to me.

1438
02:04:23,970 --> 02:04:29,510
So this is something that I think we should all go out and do because it benefits us.

1439
02:04:30,590 --> 02:04:36,630
And that Mr. Mayer is all I need to say.

1440
02:04:36,990 --> 02:04:38,550
Thank you.

1441
02:04:39,130 --> 02:04:49,470
Oh, and we're also fighting for the middle push part because we have a lag time in the scoreboard

1442
02:04:49,470 --> 02:04:54,950
and the equipment that operates the scoreboard from the booth.

1443
02:04:55,450 --> 02:04:56,690
So we've got to work on that.

1444
02:04:56,690 --> 02:04:59,710
we're going to talk more than to get back in in the way the stop is proven.

1445
02:05:02,260 --> 02:05:05,740
I'm reaching for my gavel.

1446
02:05:12,580 --> 02:05:13,100
Councilman on the Chaka.

1447
02:05:14,480 --> 02:05:15,320
Councilman Vesner.

1448
02:05:16,040 --> 02:05:19,700
Okay, real quick, that solar thing, that solar thing.

1449
02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:21,280
I know that's not the right way to say it.

1450
02:05:21,940 --> 02:05:25,740
The idea that you don't have to get involved in the utility company.

1451
02:05:25,740 --> 02:05:30,800
don't have to get permits and you don't have to do this actually something that anybody can

1452
02:05:30,800 --> 02:05:35,340
go and take advantage of. Those are great environmental initiatives and I hope we see more

1453
02:05:35,340 --> 02:05:40,960
of those that don't involve towns and specialists and consultants and contractors and just simple

1454
02:05:40,960 --> 02:05:46,260
things people could do if they choose to make the investment and I'm sure you'll push the push that

1455
02:05:46,260 --> 02:05:52,820
out including so people do it right even so there's not a permanent involved you want to be safe.

1456
02:05:52,820 --> 02:05:58,920
Franklin Day coming up Saturday 26 big day. I think we have one more meeting before then, but

1457
02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:04,780
Should we don't so still please we do okay bottom line. Gonna have a lot of stuff going on

1458
02:06:05,200 --> 02:06:11,600
Relvented Franklin to 50 celebrations and all the other stuff we usually have so please that's a few weeks from today

1459
02:06:12,180 --> 02:06:18,900
Mondays a Hamilton meeting. We didn't have one in August. If you're interested in what's going on Hamilton Street Mondays Hamilton board meeting

1460
02:06:20,520 --> 02:06:26,160
And the only I want to mention was that everything that was concerned was brought up, and I think

1461
02:06:26,160 --> 02:06:29,700
well that, thank you, Council, and Manager in the attorney.

1462
02:06:30,400 --> 02:06:35,960
9-11, I notice a lot of talk about liberties and loss of freedoms, but I just want to

1463
02:06:35,960 --> 02:06:41,220
reflect for a minute for those who couldn't see, we had a wonderful celebration, acknowledgement

1464
02:06:41,220 --> 02:06:46,340
today, said, but acknowledging what 9-11 was about in the six people we lost in this

1465
02:06:46,340 --> 02:06:53,300
ownership. I knew only a couple, but we lost six people. I'm sure it's going to be

1466
02:06:53,300 --> 02:06:57,400
on probably through Franklin Port or other areas if you want to watch it online. It was

1467
02:06:57,400 --> 02:06:58,640
short, but beautiful ceremony.

1468
02:07:01,220 --> 02:07:04,480
Don't forget, 25 years, some people knew what it is. We're

1469
02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:11,340
not born, must you were. Maybe we're younger. Just remember what it was, and hopefully we'll

1470
02:07:11,340 --> 02:07:14,180
never have to go through anything like that as a country again. Thank you, Mayor.

1471
02:07:14,920 --> 02:07:18,640
Thank you, Councilwoman Francois.

1472
02:07:18,920 --> 02:07:20,120
Good evening, everyone.

1473
02:07:20,380 --> 02:07:24,380
I sit on the Youth Service's Commission and there happens to be a really good program.

1474
02:07:24,620 --> 02:07:27,080
I heard about, so I just want to let people know.

1475
02:07:27,740 --> 02:07:30,260
It's called a strengthening families program.

1476
02:07:30,620 --> 02:07:36,400
It's free for Franklin Township families with children 12 to 17 years old.

1477
02:07:36,680 --> 02:07:40,800
Believe it or not, it's first Baptist Church that is sponsoring the program.

1478
02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:47,520
They're able to give $450 for families that complete the program.

1479
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:52,660
The program starts on October 1st, and it runs for 11 sessions.

1480
02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:57,520
They have to arrive at 530 p.m. for dinner, and then the program starts at 6 o'clock.

1481
02:07:58,180 --> 02:08:02,920
And the program is offered through a partnership with New Jersey Prevention Network, and

1482
02:08:02,920 --> 02:08:06,840
this grant money was made possible funded by the CDC.

1483
02:08:06,840 --> 02:08:11,480
I think it's a wonderful program and hopefully we'll have some families that will take

1484
02:08:11,480 --> 02:08:12,580
of any of it.

1485
02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:17,300
This is an opportunity for families to have 11 weeks of interactive family sessions.

1486
02:08:18,460 --> 02:08:21,400
I think I'm going to get extra support from family advocates.

1487
02:08:21,800 --> 02:08:23,800
They'll have childcare for younger siblings.

1488
02:08:24,140 --> 02:08:27,540
They'll give family dinner every night, once a week, each week.

1489
02:08:28,060 --> 02:08:33,660
I think it'll be a nice program for families to connect to all I have Mr. Mayor.

1490
02:08:33,800 --> 02:08:34,780
Thank you.

1491
02:08:34,900 --> 02:08:35,480
Thank you.

1492
02:08:35,480 --> 02:08:36,720
Councilman embarrassed.

1493
02:08:37,300 --> 02:08:38,100
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1494
02:08:38,720 --> 02:08:44,840
I was away in India for three weeks or I really don't have much to report except that

1495
02:08:44,840 --> 02:08:56,700
I attended the Suraj Authority board meeting virtually from there at 430 AM, which is a 630 here.

1496
02:08:57,580 --> 02:08:59,860
Anyway, I have one announcement to make.

1497
02:08:59,860 --> 02:09:05,180
So we have the annual Diwali celebration coming up October 3rd.

1498
02:09:05,320 --> 02:09:08,940
That's the festival of light, so that is celebrated throughout the world.

1499
02:09:09,320 --> 02:09:14,720
So we have been doing that for the last five years and this year, the same place, October

1500
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:15,400
3rd.

1501
02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:22,160
We are changing the hours to 3 to 6 p.m., and we are making a small change on the food.

1502
02:09:22,640 --> 02:09:29,360
Instead of giving it away free, we are going to do a fundraising on behalf of a food-fanking

1503
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:37,840
food bank, so the proceeds will, our restaurants donate the food, we're going to fundraise

1504
02:09:37,840 --> 02:09:41,780
and give them money to the food bank this year. That's all I got, Mayor.

1505
02:09:43,160 --> 02:09:45,220
Thank you. It comes to woman again.

1506
02:09:45,660 --> 02:09:50,880
Thank you. Good evening, everyone. So a lot of moments have taken place in our community over the past

1507
02:09:50,880 --> 02:09:56,660
few weeks and I want to highlight those, I want to do those last time but we got a lot going on.

1508
02:09:58,100 --> 02:09:59,960
So a couple of weeks ago I'll stir my stack.

1509
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:05,340
Second, community meet-up, which right here at the council chamber, bringing some of the residents

1510
02:10:05,340 --> 02:10:11,500
together for conversations about ideas, issues and concerns. The discussions were around the

1511
02:10:11,500 --> 02:10:15,660
roads, the sidewalks, traffic, public safety, and our master plan that's coming up for

1512
02:10:15,660 --> 02:10:21,060
renewal. So those discussions will continue occurring. The second thing I want to mention

1513
02:10:21,060 --> 02:10:26,060
is, as you know, our governor recently signed the Garden State balcony Solar Act. So a couple

1514
02:10:26,060 --> 02:10:30,780
months ago, the Environmental Committee Commission and the Township's staff, including our

1515
02:10:30,780 --> 02:10:35,940
fire prevention and a few residents, have been working on a solar education presentation,

1516
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:41,480
which we have just finalized and I hope to bring it before council next time, along with

1517
02:10:41,480 --> 02:10:42,360
a small demonstration.

1518
02:10:44,180 --> 02:10:48,960
And third year, I'm hosting another scam prevention seminar with our Franklin Township Police

1519
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:51,240
Department at the Renaissance Adult Community.

1520
02:10:51,440 --> 02:10:55,780
Later this month, talking about seminars, we have done multiple seminars regarding property

1521
02:10:55,780 --> 02:11:01,900
tax relief and thanks to our staff and our Assemblyman Joe Danielson who's also here on hosting

1522
02:11:01,900 --> 02:11:08,320
these important seminar so encourage our residents to look into New Jersey or NJ Save every

1523
02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:15,320
dollar of relief matters and finally our children are back to school so please slow down and

1524
02:11:15,320 --> 02:11:24,440
stale for our school buses when that stop sign is out flashing lights you stop you stop please it's

1525
02:11:24,440 --> 02:11:30,680
really important. I've seen a lot and reported so please make sure you stop. That's all I have. Thank you.

1526
02:11:30,740 --> 02:11:39,640
Thank you, Councilman Singh. So three things to cover this evening. One, we had my first

1527
02:11:39,640 --> 02:11:46,280
award community meeting a couple of weeks ago and I had a privilege of posting that community along with

1528
02:11:46,280 --> 02:11:52,660
our mayor, our public safety director, and our representative from the Board of Education

1529
02:11:52,660 --> 02:12:00,160
more than 80 residents joined us, and we had a candid conversation on some of the topics

1530
02:12:00,160 --> 02:12:01,160
that we've talked about today.

1531
02:12:01,740 --> 02:12:08,040
I've talked about taxes, we've talked about public safety, they proposed NEC Compressor Station

1532
02:12:08,040 --> 02:12:09,160
in a backyards.

1533
02:12:09,160 --> 02:12:16,300
So, the point is this is not the only avenue to come and talk and discuss your concerns

1534
02:12:16,960 --> 02:12:22,440
that are many other avenues, Councilwoman Yudin, just did her community meeting in the

1535
02:12:22,440 --> 02:12:23,180
second ward.

1536
02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:27,140
I did one in the first ward, so the dialogue will continue.

1537
02:12:28,520 --> 02:12:35,320
There was an event that I attended that was really well organized by the Youth Center, Council

1538
02:12:35,320 --> 02:12:37,820
Thank you for pointing me to that.

1539
02:12:39,520 --> 02:12:40,800
This was a couple of weeks ago,

1540
02:12:41,120 --> 02:12:42,820
the highlight was we gave a very

1541
02:12:42,820 --> 02:12:45,560
hundred school backs to local children

1542
02:12:45,560 --> 02:12:49,280
that was made possible by a non-procure organization

1543
02:12:49,280 --> 02:12:51,720
in a township called Karma Junction.

1544
02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:58,380
And it was managed by a high schooler

1545
02:12:58,380 --> 02:13:01,220
as their youth leader for the non-procure organization.

1546
02:13:01,220 --> 02:13:09,280
super excited to see young people stepping up, super excited to see our students and our

1547
02:13:09,280 --> 02:13:14,300
youth leaders making a difference for other young people. And lastly, I do want to congratulate

1548
02:13:14,970 --> 02:13:20,820
the task force, the residents from the First World and many other residents who have stayed

1549
02:13:20,820 --> 02:13:26,660
the course and fought the NEC compressor station over the last 12 years. I'm one of them.

1550
02:13:26,660 --> 02:13:36,200
and this vacation of the water quality certification is something that gives a lot of who

1551
02:13:36,200 --> 02:13:41,220
went to ourselves and we will continue to state a course and thank you for everything that you

1552
02:13:41,220 --> 02:13:42,660
guys have done as a pleasure.

1553
02:13:46,370 --> 02:13:53,850
Thank you. Deputy Mayor Krasi. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and good evening,

1554
02:13:55,030 --> 02:13:59,770
everyone. So I have really a brief one so we had to advise here at Board of Health.

1555
02:13:59,770 --> 02:14:06,050
We have a visitor who came and spoke about the Medicaid fraud.

1556
02:14:06,610 --> 02:14:10,930
There was a senior Medicare Petrol of New Jersey, which I didn't know about it.

1557
02:14:12,270 --> 02:14:21,210
And some of the information that she shared with us was there's $60 billion Medicare fraud each year,

1558
02:14:21,550 --> 02:14:25,850
which is of course impact and taxpayer because we support our paying for it.

1559
02:14:25,850 --> 02:14:32,050
And we are planning to invite them to senior citizens' clubs.

1560
02:14:33,010 --> 02:14:36,670
We have, you know, usually 80 or so people come.

1561
02:14:37,290 --> 02:14:43,950
We want them to hear because senior citizens are the main group that they are victims of this fraud.

1562
02:14:44,250 --> 02:14:46,210
So that's one thing that we will do.

1563
02:14:46,510 --> 02:14:52,070
The other thing we discussed was, hopefully, having some sort of a monitoring,

1564
02:14:52,070 --> 02:14:59,390
the air quality monitoring around the town to better understand the impact of

1565
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:09,820
Air quality, hopefully we'll get some data on the health issues and take steps to help the

1566
02:15:09,820 --> 02:15:14,900
do improve the health of our community. So those are the two main items that we discussed.

1567
02:15:15,560 --> 02:15:16,620
That's all I have Mr. Mayor.

1568
02:15:17,360 --> 02:15:26,180
Thank you. I was fortunate enough to attend Mr. Petaznik's swearing-in as the peak commissioner

1569
02:15:26,180 --> 02:15:33,060
very exciting. I gave me the opportunity to speak to the governor and I spoke to her about

1570
02:15:33,060 --> 02:15:42,400
Nessie. She was here about three months ago at Elizabeth School and I had 30 seconds with

1571
02:15:42,400 --> 02:15:52,720
her and I spoke to her about Nessie. It was an amazing decision in our favor. I'm really excited

1572
02:15:52,720 --> 02:15:54,920
about it and the flight continues.

1573
02:15:56,480 --> 02:16:11,100
I've also written a letter to the AG and to copy to Mr. Danielson about the ALPRs.

1574
02:16:11,100 --> 02:16:14,880
Three years, keeping the data is too long.

1575
02:16:15,380 --> 02:16:21,720
That needs to be shortened, and I also present the idea of keeping it for X amount of

1576
02:16:21,720 --> 02:16:29,780
But a shorter amount of time, the first month or two, you can query it the way they normally do.

1577
02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:33,880
But after that, you need a warrant to get at it.

1578
02:16:34,360 --> 02:16:40,720
And the other thing is, we have stricter audits than these state requires.

1579
02:16:40,980 --> 02:16:43,820
State requires once a year. That's not enough.

1580
02:16:43,820 --> 02:16:59,120
We do it quarterly with a random monthly audit now and again, and I think the state needs to tighten that up because other places are getting at our data.

1581
02:16:59,340 --> 02:17:09,580
Only from that, there are only new Jersey places, no federal places, but they do have new Jersey places have access to our data.

1582
02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:12,540
We want them to be auditing as frequently as we do.

1583
02:17:13,220 --> 02:17:15,320
That's what I have. Good timing.

1584
02:17:19,620 --> 02:17:20,900
Approved of the minutes.

1585
02:17:21,140 --> 02:17:21,760
How about me?

1586
02:17:23,480 --> 02:17:27,860
I haven't skipped me in a while, but there it is right there, says, manage your

1587
02:17:27,860 --> 02:17:28,320
township.

1588
02:17:28,360 --> 02:17:29,460
Approved of the minutes.

1589
02:17:30,080 --> 02:17:31,200
Number nine.

1590
02:17:32,080 --> 02:17:35,320
I have several a township events that need to be announced in

1591
02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:40,220
while I appreciate Councilman Vassanella, notifying the public of Franklin

1592
02:17:40,220 --> 02:17:41,460
Day Festival upcoming.

1593
02:17:41,460 --> 02:17:46,520
He failed to notify where it was or when it was or the hours of it.

1594
02:17:46,520 --> 02:17:47,840
I don't leave something for you.

1595
02:17:48,040 --> 02:17:56,880
So that's my job and it is on Saturday, September 26th, here in the Municipal Complex from noon to five.

1596
02:17:57,340 --> 02:17:59,380
So we hope that everyone can come out.

1597
02:18:00,100 --> 02:18:06,080
The day before, also something that I believe Councilman Vassano has an involvement with,

1598
02:18:06,340 --> 02:18:10,720
the Youth Mental Health First Aid Training will be offered on September 25th.

1599
02:18:10,720 --> 02:18:16,140
The Franklin Township's stigma-free council is partnering with Empower Somerset to host

1600
02:18:16,140 --> 02:18:21,020
a youth mental health first-day training on September 25th, offering community members

1601
02:18:21,020 --> 02:18:26,220
and important opportunity to learn how to identify and respond to signs of mental health

1602
02:18:26,220 --> 02:18:28,680
and substance use challenges in young people.

1603
02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:35,700
The free six-hour course provides practical skills to support children and adolescents aged

1604
02:18:35,700 --> 02:18:41,700
6 to 18 and guide them toward appropriate care when they may be experiencing a crisis or

1605
02:18:41,700 --> 02:18:43,080
developing a mental health concern.

1606
02:18:44,060 --> 02:18:49,540
So I recognize that this is on a Friday, this is geared towards, perhaps, professionals,

1607
02:18:50,740 --> 02:18:57,000
however, parents, grandparents, anyone who wants to attend, you just need to register online,

1608
02:18:57,160 --> 02:18:59,440
it is in the banner of our homepage.

1609
02:18:59,800 --> 02:19:05,680
So if you're interested in attending this from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. at the Community Senior Center

1610
02:19:05,680 --> 02:19:16,220
on the 25th, go and sign up because pre-registration is required and so that is that Franklin

1611
02:19:16,220 --> 02:19:23,620
Day and then for those who are interested in community solar, catch up home page, departments

1612
02:19:23,620 --> 02:19:29,180
and that'll be a pull down and go to special projects and it's on the home page for special

1613
02:19:29,180 --> 02:19:31,640
projects if you're interested in community solar.

1614
02:19:32,380 --> 02:19:33,520
That's what I have, Mr. Mayor.

1615
02:19:34,580 --> 02:19:35,500
Thank you.

1616
02:19:35,700 --> 02:19:36,820
Approval of the book.

1617
02:19:37,880 --> 02:19:38,260
Thank you.

1618
02:19:38,420 --> 02:19:39,520
Approval of the minutes.

1619
02:19:40,160 --> 02:19:41,200
I present the following minutes,

1620
02:19:41,460 --> 02:19:43,720
Township Council, for their approval.

1621
02:19:46,200 --> 02:19:47,880
The work session,

1622
02:19:48,320 --> 02:19:51,140
regular meeting of August,

1623
02:19:51,660 --> 02:19:53,620
my August 11th,

1624
02:19:54,400 --> 02:19:55,000
2026,

1625
02:19:55,960 --> 02:19:57,480
to have motioned on the minutes.

1626
02:19:57,680 --> 02:19:58,180
So moved.

1627
02:19:58,840 --> 02:19:59,440
Seconded.

1628
02:19:59,500 --> 02:19:59,960
Anyone have?

1629
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:05,440
Any changes they want to make? Any spelling errors? Madam Clerk.

1630
02:20:07,940 --> 02:20:09,540
Councilman of Arreston.

1631
02:20:09,700 --> 02:20:19,480
Yes. Councilwoman, Francois. Yes. Deputy Mayor Corazzy. Yes. Mayor Cramer. Yes. Councilwoman O'Nijaka. Yes. Councilman Singh. Councilwoman O'Nijaka.

1632
02:20:20,320 --> 02:20:21,500
Yes. Councilwoman O'Nijaka. Yes.

1633
02:20:30,260 --> 02:20:32,220
Councilwoman O'Nijaka.

1634
02:20:32,220 --> 02:20:39,100
and 30 cents on September 8th, 2026 are presented to the Township Council for Payment to have a

1635
02:20:39,100 --> 02:20:46,960
motion on the Lawrence. Second. Second and anyone have any questions? Full of an item.

1636
02:20:47,760 --> 02:20:48,420
Madam Clerk.

1637
02:20:52,560 --> 02:20:57,300
Councilman in Barerson. Yes. Councilwoman Francois. Yes. Deputy Mayor Corazzy.

1638
02:20:58,040 --> 02:21:04,320
Mayor Cramer. Yes. Councilman O'Neill Jocca. Yes. Councilman Sting. Yes. Councilwoman O'Neill. Yes.

1639
02:21:04,320 --> 02:21:07,080
Council and Vastanella? Yes. Council and right.

1640
02:21:10,000 --> 02:21:14,060
Public hearing and adoption of ordinances on second reading. We have a first reading

1641
02:21:14,060 --> 02:21:18,040
to announce the world that we're going to consider in ordinance.

1642
02:21:18,640 --> 02:21:22,740
And we give a date for a public portion for public to speak.

1643
02:21:22,880 --> 02:21:28,040
And then we vote on whether we're going to pass the ordinance or not.

1644
02:21:28,040 --> 02:21:34,040
ordinance number four five one seven dash twenty six in order to amend the code of council

1645
02:21:34,040 --> 02:21:38,920
bracket county some of the state and the jersey more particularly chapter one twelve land

1646
02:21:38,920 --> 02:21:45,420
development to make various updates regarding clusters of divisions as well as related

1647
02:21:45,420 --> 02:21:52,300
ordinances updates is presented for a motion to move for a motion to move to public

1648
02:21:52,300 --> 02:22:00,400
hearing an adoption on October 13th, 2026 South Chicago meeting at 7 p.m. in the

1649
02:22:00,400 --> 02:22:05,600
Council of Chambers for technical reasons. Madam Clerk, do you want to explain what

1650
02:22:05,600 --> 02:22:06,140
we do?

1651
02:22:06,480 --> 02:22:06,680
I do.

1652
02:22:06,820 --> 02:22:10,640
If I can, yeah, this ordinance, because there is one section of a that

1653
02:22:10,640 --> 02:22:15,600
of resounds, a small portion of property requires individual notice for the public hearing,

1654
02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:20,600
notice for people within 200 feet. So that was not done for this meeting, but it will

1655
02:22:20,600 --> 02:22:25,540
done for the October 13 meeting. So technically we're asking for a motion to postpone the

1656
02:22:25,540 --> 02:22:30,400
public hearing on this until October 13th, there will be a new public notice and a new

1657
02:22:30,400 --> 02:22:35,940
individual email note of that meeting. Okay. So moved.

1658
02:22:36,920 --> 02:22:40,740
Question. Adam Clarke.

1659
02:22:41,820 --> 02:22:48,760
Cancels have been a barrister? Yes. Cancels have been a woman in

1660
02:22:49,400 --> 02:22:49,840
Yes.

1661
02:22:49,880 --> 02:22:50,700
Councilman Singh.

1662
02:22:51,600 --> 02:22:52,720
Councilwoman New Dean.

1663
02:22:53,460 --> 02:22:54,220
Councilman Vassanela.

1664
02:22:54,900 --> 02:22:55,680
Councilman Wright.

1665
02:22:57,020 --> 02:23:01,360
By the way, the clerk explained to me before the meeting what was going on.

1666
02:23:01,540 --> 02:23:03,980
And I looked at her and she said, just read what I wrote.

1667
02:23:06,580 --> 02:23:07,280
So it worked.

1668
02:23:07,280 --> 02:23:12,380
Order number 4518-26 in order and so authorizing the private sale of the

1669
02:23:12,380 --> 02:23:16,340
township owned lands located in Block 173.

1670
02:23:16,840 --> 02:23:18,280
Lots 9 through 10.

1671
02:23:19,480 --> 02:23:22,040
56 through 58 Main Street.

1672
02:23:22,560 --> 02:23:22,980
Block 180.

1673
02:23:23,760 --> 02:23:26,340
Lots 11 through 11 through 112.

1674
02:23:27,120 --> 02:23:29,600
29 Coffee Street and Block 95.

1675
02:23:31,940 --> 02:23:37,280
20, 168 Church O'Live in the Township of Franklin County in Somerset State and New Jersey.

1676
02:23:37,860 --> 02:23:42,300
Habitat for Humanity is present to the public hearing and final adoption.

1677
02:23:42,980 --> 02:23:45,500
The public hearing has been noticed as required.

1678
02:23:46,300 --> 02:23:52,700
Without unanimous consent, I open to the public without objection.

1679
02:24:00,170 --> 02:24:02,030
Are you leaving or getting up to speak?

1680
02:24:04,930 --> 02:24:06,230
You may leave.

1681
02:24:06,650 --> 02:24:08,270
I will do gaffers, I swear.

1682
02:24:09,330 --> 02:24:09,690
OK.

1683
02:24:13,830 --> 02:24:16,770
We're seeing no one coming up to speak.

1684
02:24:17,470 --> 02:24:19,870
I ask you, madam, to consent to close the meeting.

1685
02:24:20,010 --> 02:24:21,670
Close for public session.

1686
02:24:22,710 --> 02:24:24,810
Without objection, madam clerk.

1687
02:24:25,930 --> 02:24:26,390
Mayor?

1688
02:24:26,730 --> 02:24:27,630
We need a motion.

1689
02:24:27,970 --> 02:24:28,890
Sorry, motion to adopt.

1690
02:24:31,580 --> 02:24:32,880
We have a motion to adopt.

1691
02:24:32,880 --> 02:24:38,140
and a second. Mr. Bassanella. Yeah, I had a question.

1692
02:24:40,500 --> 02:24:42,040
The earlier conversation was

1693
02:24:43,260 --> 02:24:47,780
relative to the Churchill Avenue address that was brought up. I just wanted to

1694
02:24:47,780 --> 02:24:54,240
see if we had any dissimilar information about 111-12 because it's street.

1695
02:24:56,640 --> 02:24:56,920
Okay,

1696
02:24:56,920 --> 02:24:59,980
Great. We will.

1697
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:04,860
Welcome new neighbors soon. Thank you.

1698
02:25:07,790 --> 02:25:08,630
Any other discussion?

1699
02:25:10,050 --> 02:25:15,610
I think what was brought up about 168 Church of Avenue is a concern of mine.

1700
02:25:15,710 --> 02:25:21,790
I'm sorry. I think what was brought up about 168 Church of Avenue is a concern.

1701
02:25:22,470 --> 02:25:23,030
Yes, absolutely.

1702
02:25:23,230 --> 02:25:23,890
It's an introduction.

1703
02:25:25,130 --> 02:25:26,270
No, this is the second reason.

1704
02:25:26,270 --> 02:25:27,150
This is a adoption.

1705
02:25:28,150 --> 02:25:28,870
Yeah, that's why.

1706
02:25:28,870 --> 02:25:33,710
Yeah, no I again. I'm not sure your feelings on it, but that's where I was concerned

1707
02:25:33,710 --> 02:25:38,870
Want to make sure we're not trying to squeeze too much into too little. It's quite a few properties in here

1708
02:25:39,270 --> 02:25:44,590
Well, there are conforming lots like I said, so I understand you're concerned. I'm through my English committee

1709
02:25:44,590 --> 02:25:52,110
I think it's going to be bad at it, and it was determined that these were recommended box. They served like I said, no

1710
02:25:52,110 --> 02:25:54,070
legitimate purpose to capture

1711
02:25:55,070 --> 02:26:02,150
We're not collecting tax on them, they're building lots and habitat, humanity when they build

1712
02:26:02,150 --> 02:26:07,430
the house goes to our Fortal Housing Total for our obligation.

1713
02:26:08,770 --> 02:26:14,970
So I believe in this particular case three more parcels to add to our Fortal Housing

1714
02:26:14,970 --> 02:26:15,310
Wants.

1715
02:26:16,030 --> 02:26:17,330
That's the reason why.

1716
02:26:17,450 --> 02:26:18,650
I'm not against habitat.

1717
02:26:18,710 --> 02:26:19,790
No, no, I'm against habitat.

1718
02:26:19,810 --> 02:26:22,630
But I've been in that area and I see where that lot is.

1719
02:26:22,630 --> 02:26:24,290
I, I, I can both know.

1720
02:26:24,290 --> 02:26:25,010
You're absolutely.

1721
02:26:25,950 --> 02:26:29,690
I, I, I, I just, I, that's the recommendation of staff and that's the recommendation of the

1722
02:26:29,690 --> 02:26:30,370
land use committee.

1723
02:26:30,810 --> 02:26:37,650
And just to be clear, I'm not such a vote, no, but I have concerns, is it, and I, we can't

1724
02:26:37,650 --> 02:26:44,110
speak for the zoning board, I don't, I don't want to, suggest we are, but is it just simply

1725
02:26:44,110 --> 02:26:49,350
part of our land use law that in the art, tan, which I guess is because it's street also

1726
02:26:49,350 --> 02:26:53,590
that off-street parking is required for first spent for

1727
02:26:53,590 --> 02:26:55,430
asterisk requires off-street park.

1728
02:26:55,570 --> 02:26:55,990
I'm sorry.

1729
02:26:56,870 --> 02:27:01,490
The residential site improvement standards requires off-street parking.

1730
02:27:01,810 --> 02:27:03,430
Our ordinance requires off-street.

1731
02:27:03,490 --> 02:27:05,050
So they would have to have off-street parking.

1732
02:27:05,090 --> 02:27:08,610
We'll be required to have a driveway or a garage and a driveway.

1733
02:27:09,270 --> 02:27:12,650
And again, it's at a very, very near what

1734
02:27:12,650 --> 02:27:15,850
the square footage requirement would be for the corporate street.

1735
02:27:16,570 --> 02:27:16,710
Yes.

1736
02:27:16,710 --> 02:27:27,630
Yes. Okay. Thank you. 9,750. We're 10,000 is required. It's 250 square feet off.

1737
02:27:30,020 --> 02:27:31,000
I did the math.

1738
02:27:33,130 --> 02:27:33,810
Can't.

1739
02:27:36,520 --> 02:27:43,760
So, we don't want questions back. We do have a public session on this. We didn't speak

1740
02:27:43,760 --> 02:27:45,820
But we could reopen public session.

1741
02:27:46,960 --> 02:27:47,520
Yes.

1742
02:27:48,000 --> 02:27:48,980
Come to the mic.

1743
02:27:49,140 --> 02:27:52,360
I would motion to reopen public unless you could do it yourself mayors mayors.

1744
02:27:52,380 --> 02:27:53,980
Mayors, that's fine too.

1745
02:27:54,600 --> 02:27:54,920
Second.

1746
02:27:56,340 --> 02:27:56,820
We're open.

1747
02:27:57,140 --> 02:27:58,540
We're open for business.

1748
02:27:58,900 --> 02:27:59,720
I mean they're just again.

1749
02:28:00,200 --> 02:28:00,400
Okay.

1750
02:28:00,560 --> 02:28:01,300
One six four church.

1751
02:28:01,500 --> 02:28:06,220
And just clear the reason I'm doing this is because there was a public session.

1752
02:28:06,400 --> 02:28:07,840
No one got up.

1753
02:28:08,080 --> 02:28:09,600
Maybe you didn't understand the rules.

1754
02:28:10,300 --> 02:28:14,360
So, this is that, don't expect this every time on everything.

1755
02:28:15,300 --> 02:28:15,380
Go ahead.

1756
02:28:15,400 --> 02:28:16,240
I appreciate it, Mayor.

1757
02:28:16,980 --> 02:28:23,860
So, in regards to the habitat for humanity, house that's two doors down from me.

1758
02:28:24,500 --> 02:28:26,200
Can you make modifications to those?

1759
02:28:26,200 --> 02:28:28,520
I understand that you can't once they're built.

1760
02:28:29,500 --> 02:28:31,060
And that neighbor did.

1761
02:28:31,600 --> 02:28:34,840
So, they had one car when they moved in.

1762
02:28:34,920 --> 02:28:36,380
Now they have seven cars.

1763
02:28:36,380 --> 02:28:43,360
And they expanded the driveway, which I was told because I know two people that actually helped build that house

1764
02:28:43,360 --> 02:28:48,520
They were not supposed to do that. So I'm like they have seven cars most of them luxury cars

1765
02:28:48,520 --> 02:28:51,920
So I was like, how do they need affordable habits that?

1766
02:28:52,000 --> 02:29:00,460
So that's not for me to close it. So this is to keep it. Yeah, I'm just I just want to know can you modify those homes because if you can't

1767
02:29:01,040 --> 02:29:03,600
So it's just one that they're trying to build right next to me

1768
02:29:03,600 --> 02:29:11,460
So let me cut to the chase so can you modify these people own the home like any other like you own your home

1769
02:29:11,460 --> 02:29:19,720
You can modify your home as to as to the extent that our zoning ordinance zoning ordinances permit if it's

1770
02:29:20,420 --> 02:29:22,940
Impervious surface if it's locked coverage

1771
02:29:22,940 --> 02:29:28,100
There's all of the things that they would have to comply with and if they don't comply with them

1772
02:29:28,100 --> 02:29:31,820
Then they would have to go to the zoning board to get a variance just like you if there's

1773
02:29:31,820 --> 02:29:35,360
The habitat through humanity home is just a home.

1774
02:29:35,700 --> 02:29:36,820
Someone owns it, right?

1775
02:29:36,980 --> 02:29:40,160
And the people, they have the deans, they have the deans, they have the deans, they have

1776
02:29:40,160 --> 02:29:44,900
a mortgage, they pay their mortgage, the deans in their name, and when they are done paying their

1777
02:29:44,900 --> 02:29:46,280
mortgage, they own home.

1778
02:29:46,380 --> 02:29:48,180
And they can sell it like any other house.

1779
02:29:49,560 --> 02:29:53,740
Okay, so they can modify it to the extent that the zoning ordinance is allowed.

1780
02:29:55,020 --> 02:29:59,840
And you mentioned that there was another home that modified their driveway.

1781
02:29:59,840 --> 02:29:59,960
Bye.

1782
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:08,120
Then you have my email address, then email me that address, because without a permit, you can't increase the size of your driveway.

1783
02:30:08,620 --> 02:30:13,880
So if they didn't get a zoning permit, then they would be in violation, and then the zoning department can address it.

1784
02:30:14,140 --> 02:30:22,340
So it's like any other park, I mean, but your street allows parking. So if your street allows parking, then on street parking is permitted.

1785
02:30:23,000 --> 02:30:26,920
Oftentimes people get upset when their neighbors park in front of their house.

1786
02:30:26,920 --> 02:30:34,600
It's a public street and there is no law and we cannot enact a law that says you can't park in front of your neighbor's street.

1787
02:30:34,600 --> 02:30:35,720
It's a public street.

1788
02:30:35,720 --> 02:30:39,660
No, no, I'm just saying I understand. I'm just saying we can't regulate.

1789
02:30:39,820 --> 02:30:43,060
Yeah, we can't regulate where they park.

1790
02:30:43,080 --> 02:30:43,460
Yeah.

1791
02:30:44,540 --> 02:30:46,860
If it's a public street and parking is perfect.

1792
02:30:46,880 --> 02:30:52,640
So that particular lot, brothers, parents, they stand here basically.

1793
02:30:52,640 --> 02:30:57,740
They parted just for a minute to pick up their children because that's a school drop-off at church Hill and

1794
02:30:58,360 --> 02:30:59,560
In the other place

1795
02:30:59,560 --> 02:31:07,720
So I work from home, so I could see all this going on. I would hate for a home to be there and those parents have no way to pick up their kids

1796
02:31:07,720 --> 02:31:09,440
And also whoever moves there

1797
02:31:09,440 --> 02:31:11,260
I know it's just not gonna be one car

1798
02:31:11,260 --> 02:31:15,640
Well, I understand and I understand multiple families in that house. It is gonna be an issue

1799
02:31:15,640 --> 02:31:18,300
I understand your concerns and all I can say is it now

1800
02:31:18,300 --> 02:31:20,540
I don't know that

1801
02:31:20,540 --> 02:31:25,780
someone building a house that the deciding issues or things like bus stops.

1802
02:31:26,000 --> 02:31:29,120
Bus stops can be moved, they'll have to move down the street, whatever it is.

1803
02:31:29,320 --> 02:31:32,740
To truth is, people bring vehicles to bus stops.

1804
02:31:32,960 --> 02:31:36,600
That's not the way bus stops are supposed to operate in neighborhoods like yours.

1805
02:31:37,020 --> 02:31:39,380
The kids are supposed to go to the bus stop and wait for the bus.

1806
02:31:39,860 --> 02:31:42,280
But everybody's parents once have their kid in the car now.

1807
02:31:43,000 --> 02:31:44,860
So that's a problem throughout the town.

1808
02:31:45,180 --> 02:31:49,020
Not just there. I appreciate that problem. It is a problem. I agree.

1809
02:31:49,020 --> 02:31:50,940
Thank you very much.

1810
02:31:51,340 --> 02:31:52,500
You're welcome.

1811
02:31:54,320 --> 02:31:57,240
We have a motion in a second and any other discussion.

1812
02:32:00,310 --> 02:32:01,010
Madam Clerk.

1813
02:32:01,710 --> 02:32:02,550
Councilman embarrassing?

1814
02:32:03,110 --> 02:32:03,430
Yes.

1815
02:32:04,230 --> 02:32:06,230
Councilwoman Francois?

1816
02:32:06,430 --> 02:32:06,750
No.

1817
02:32:08,330 --> 02:32:09,390
Deputy Mayor Karazzi?

1818
02:32:09,450 --> 02:32:09,850
Yes.

1819
02:32:10,470 --> 02:32:11,090
Mayor Cramer?

1820
02:32:11,350 --> 02:32:11,730
Yes.

1821
02:32:12,250 --> 02:32:12,910
Councilman O'Neill?

1822
02:32:13,390 --> 02:32:13,810
Yes.

1823
02:32:14,330 --> 02:32:15,130
Councilman Singh?

1824
02:32:15,270 --> 02:32:15,590
Yes.

1825
02:32:16,230 --> 02:32:17,210
Councilwoman O'Neill?

1826
02:32:18,230 --> 02:32:19,470
Councilman Vassanella?

1827
02:32:19,470 --> 02:32:20,850
Yes.

1828
02:32:21,850 --> 02:32:22,610
Councilor Ryan?

1829
02:32:22,750 --> 02:32:22,990
Yes.

1830
02:32:26,040 --> 02:32:29,960
We're in the sun introduction and first reading ordinance capital ordinance appropriating

1831
02:32:29,960 --> 02:32:37,860
$1,380,000 from the open space trust fund to pay for the construction of improvements

1832
02:32:37,860 --> 02:32:44,740
to in the acquisition of equipment from Catelpa Park in the township of Franklin County.

1833
02:32:44,740 --> 02:32:48,780
It's summer set State of New Jersey 4 going on in represents the Township Council

1834
02:32:48,780 --> 02:32:52,980
for adoption and first reading posting and publication and accordance with law and public

1835
02:32:52,980 --> 02:32:57,020
carrying and final adoption at a meeting at the Township Council to be all done Tuesday,

1836
02:32:58,760 --> 02:33:03,240
September 22nd, 2026 at 7pm in the Council chambers.

1837
02:33:03,660 --> 02:33:05,040
So we have a motion to introduce.

1838
02:33:05,620 --> 02:33:06,460
So moved.

1839
02:33:06,460 --> 02:33:06,880
Second.

1840
02:33:07,320 --> 02:33:08,240
Move the hand second.

1841
02:33:08,480 --> 02:33:09,160
Any discussion?

1842
02:33:10,180 --> 02:33:11,340
I am a question.

1843
02:33:13,680 --> 02:33:19,420
Just to clarify for the public, this is coming from the trust fight.

1844
02:33:20,040 --> 02:33:22,020
So there's two things that need to be clarified.

1845
02:33:22,600 --> 02:33:27,420
The first is that yes, this money will come from the Open Space Trust Fund, which is

1846
02:33:27,420 --> 02:33:32,220
specifically intended to be used for things such as development of parts.

1847
02:33:32,460 --> 02:33:35,180
The other thing is that's not how much the park is going to cost.

1848
02:33:35,720 --> 02:33:41,100
The consent agenda is the award of a contract for the total amount of the park, which

1849
02:33:41,100 --> 02:33:47,060
I have to tap on my head if I could look, but if someone is curious, I think it's in the neighborhood of $9 million.

1850
02:33:49,320 --> 02:34:01,840
And this ordinance will supplement previous capital ordinances out of the open space trust for design and development of the park.

1851
02:34:01,840 --> 02:34:10,280
there's that much left of previous capital ordinances so that those

1852
02:34:10,280 --> 02:34:17,700
monies can be used. And this is the final amount for the total of the contract award.

1853
02:34:19,160 --> 02:34:24,580
So this is part of the part of a larger number. Yes, this is part of the total. Correct.

1854
02:34:24,980 --> 02:34:31,400
9 million. In addition to what we have since 2015 there have been a number of capital

1855
02:34:31,400 --> 02:34:36,160
ordinances passed by Council for the design and development of the park.

1856
02:34:36,740 --> 02:34:41,280
We are now at the point where we're going to award a contract for the total construction

1857
02:34:41,280 --> 02:34:46,700
of the park and we need this additional money to be able to award the contract.

1858
02:34:46,880 --> 02:34:48,940
Can't award a contract without funding in place.

1859
02:34:49,520 --> 02:34:51,740
That's why you'll do this and award the contract.

1860
02:34:52,140 --> 02:34:52,640
Save time.

1861
02:34:56,300 --> 02:34:59,800
Yes, everyone this year, I want to say I think as part of it.

1862
02:35:02,640 --> 02:35:26,000
And I believe this part of the wonders for the people in the area. So, how hard is the idea? I can count the parties definitely in the mix at number 14A, and if you go through the resolution, it's number 4, and the fact that the party's party's party's party's party's party's will actually cost with the vote in the spokesperson company, A855.

1863
02:35:26,000 --> 02:35:34,860
So, definitely we need to put this on the board. It's been too long. And I think you

1864
02:35:34,860 --> 02:35:36,480
can't put it all in for me.

1865
02:35:38,480 --> 02:35:45,660
The my comment is, this park was an issue when I first ran for mayor against Mr. Kelly

1866
02:35:45,660 --> 02:35:53,940
in 2015, who finally getting to it. Any other discussion? Madam Clerk.

1867
02:35:53,940 --> 02:35:55,880
Councillor Nebelerson.

1868
02:35:57,440 --> 02:35:59,060
Councillor Will Bin Fencewell.

1869
02:35:59,300 --> 02:35:59,360
Yes.

1870
02:35:59,680 --> 02:36:00,560
Deputy Mayor Colossian.

1871
02:36:00,620 --> 02:36:01,160
Yes.

1872
02:36:01,160 --> 02:36:01,740
Mayor Cramer.

1873
02:36:02,320 --> 02:36:02,380
Yes.

1874
02:36:02,380 --> 02:36:03,480
Councillor Nounicacca.

1875
02:36:03,560 --> 02:36:03,900
Yes.

1876
02:36:04,080 --> 02:36:05,320
Councillor Mounicino.

1877
02:36:06,900 --> 02:36:07,360
Councillor Nebelerson.

1878
02:36:09,120 --> 02:36:09,400
Councillor Ben Wright.

1879
02:36:10,060 --> 02:36:10,080
Yes.

1880
02:36:10,080 --> 02:36:10,920
Councillor Jenem.

1881
02:36:11,120 --> 02:36:11,400
The Adams.

1882
02:36:11,860 --> 02:36:13,480
A through A L.

1883
02:36:14,360 --> 02:36:14,520
Aye.

1884
02:36:15,600 --> 02:36:15,840
Aye.

1885
02:36:16,200 --> 02:36:16,460
Aye.

1886
02:36:16,680 --> 02:36:20,000
As listed in the consent of Jen DePortion, the meeting representative,

1887
02:36:20,000 --> 02:36:28,100
to have a motion on the consent agenda to move.

1888
02:36:28,980 --> 02:36:30,420
Do I have a second?

1889
02:36:30,420 --> 02:36:30,880
Second.

1890
02:36:31,700 --> 02:36:32,240
Within second.

1891
02:36:32,600 --> 02:36:33,220
Any discussion?

1892
02:36:33,540 --> 02:36:35,020
Anyone like to pull an item?

1893
02:36:35,940 --> 02:36:37,420
Who is the manager?

1894
02:36:39,720 --> 02:36:39,760
No.

1895
02:36:40,240 --> 02:36:40,720
No discussion.

1896
02:36:40,920 --> 02:36:41,440
Madam Clerk.

1897
02:36:42,220 --> 02:36:43,160
Councillor Bain and Barerson.

1898
02:36:43,840 --> 02:36:43,880
Yes.

1899
02:36:43,880 --> 02:36:45,020
Councillorwoman Francois.

1900
02:36:45,440 --> 02:36:45,540
Yes.

1901
02:36:45,540 --> 02:36:46,480
Deputy Mayor Carasi.

1902
02:36:46,640 --> 02:36:47,140
Yes.

1903
02:36:47,140 --> 02:36:47,680
Mayor Cramer.

1904
02:36:48,040 --> 02:36:48,500
Yes.

1905
02:36:48,520 --> 02:36:49,480
Councillor Nunichaka.

1906
02:36:49,700 --> 02:36:50,080
Yes.

1907
02:36:51,380 --> 02:36:55,620
Councilwoman Dene, Council Investor Nella, Council of Nairi.

1908
02:36:57,900 --> 02:37:05,920
So, resolutions to be voted on separately, 26-390, authorizing Franklin Township to enter

1909
02:37:05,920 --> 02:37:13,440
into a settlement agreement with Transcontinental Gas Pipeline Company, LLC, Transco.

1910
02:37:13,440 --> 02:37:22,020
with respect to commendation, action filed in the United States District Court of New Jersey.

1911
02:37:22,860 --> 02:37:31,660
Number three, Colin 36-CV-0018 is presented to the Council for Adoption.

1912
02:37:31,800 --> 02:37:32,960
To have a motion.

1913
02:37:34,200 --> 02:37:34,820
So move.

1914
02:37:35,360 --> 02:37:35,680
Second.

1915
02:37:36,340 --> 02:37:37,200
Move in second.

1916
02:37:38,600 --> 02:37:39,260
Discussion.

1917
02:37:44,540 --> 02:37:48,460
So, just describe the settlement.

1918
02:37:49,440 --> 02:37:56,800
This mayor, this is a settlement, and I just want to thank Ms. Powell for her comments tonight.

1919
02:37:58,360 --> 02:38:04,780
This is related to the Nussie Project, but it is, the federal government has given transco-the

1920
02:38:04,780 --> 02:38:07,520
ability to condemn property in the township.

1921
02:38:08,420 --> 02:38:13,900
The FERC certificate, and I want to make this clear, has two parts to it, one is to give them.

1922
02:38:14,140 --> 02:38:15,340
Condemnance, eminent domain.

1923
02:38:15,540 --> 02:38:19,040
And eminent domain, take the property by eminent domain, so I'm sorry.

1924
02:38:21,120 --> 02:38:32,060
And the FERC certificate that was issued, it was 40 pages long, but it had two parts to it, one that with the ability to exercise eminent domain.

1925
02:38:32,560 --> 02:38:35,340
And the second was their ability to actually build a project.

1926
02:38:35,340 --> 02:38:42,360
The certainly the lawsuit that Miss Powell talked about today impacts that part of it,

1927
02:38:42,620 --> 02:38:50,200
but asked to the federal lawsuit with regards to the eminent domain action.

1928
02:38:51,100 --> 02:38:54,820
The touch of his race, you know, every defense that we can, including the fact that there

1929
02:38:54,820 --> 02:38:59,560
was a third-circuit court of appeals case pending, and the federal court still granted

1930
02:38:59,560 --> 02:39:01,220
the property to transgos.

1931
02:39:01,220 --> 02:39:05,260
So this case is now only about what the value is going to be paid to the township.

1932
02:39:06,000 --> 02:39:10,640
This value is just short of 20 times what they offered.

1933
02:39:12,760 --> 02:39:17,420
And the recommendation from the law department was to settle the case, take the money,

1934
02:39:18,080 --> 02:39:20,860
you know, the township has already had some discussion about the purposes that the money

1935
02:39:20,860 --> 02:39:25,660
would be used for, but it's just in the best interest that the taxpayers would do this.

1936
02:39:25,660 --> 02:39:34,680
But if the decision of the E.P. is upheld, and if the E.P. actually never issues the permit, the project doesn't get built, and we just keep the 600,000 dollars.

1937
02:39:37,000 --> 02:39:51,700
So, given that, because we're in an unusual situation, we'd like to add to the agreement that they have helped pick a number 30 days to sign otherwise.

1938
02:39:51,700 --> 02:39:53,220
This is off the table.

1939
02:39:53,440 --> 02:39:54,560
I'm going to add that to the agreement.

1940
02:39:54,800 --> 02:39:56,100
Mayor, you and I had that decision earlier.

1941
02:39:56,620 --> 02:39:56,940
Yes?

1942
02:39:56,960 --> 02:39:57,340
Well, I will.

1943
02:39:58,020 --> 02:39:59,960
That won't count so to know that that's what they're going to do.

1944
02:40:02,700 --> 02:40:09,620
We're just going to require them to execute the agreement and pay the funds within 30 days.

1945
02:40:10,060 --> 02:40:16,800
Understand that we can do that, but I do have a federal judge that I have to deal with here.

1946
02:40:17,280 --> 02:40:24,920
So I need to get papers filed in a federal court. I need to get the judge to sign them. I need to get that all to happen also.

1947
02:40:24,920 --> 02:40:28,640
So I just, we need to do that, but we're going to try,

1948
02:40:28,800 --> 02:40:30,280
we're going to start with trying 30 days

1949
02:40:30,280 --> 02:40:31,800
and then we'll work on the judges timeline.

1950
02:40:32,820 --> 02:40:35,060
Right, and the reason we're doing this is,

1951
02:40:35,360 --> 02:40:39,580
because Nessie is like Chuckie, just keeps coming back.

1952
02:40:40,360 --> 02:40:46,920
Well, the amount of, and not a legal term that I'm

1953
02:40:46,920 --> 02:40:48,120
familiar with, but that's OK.

1954
02:40:49,500 --> 02:40:52,420
The most important thing that we need to know

1955
02:40:52,420 --> 02:40:57,080
we sit here today is, as a result of the federal court action, they own the easement.

1956
02:40:57,940 --> 02:41:00,360
The only issue here is not whether or not they get the easement.

1957
02:41:00,620 --> 02:41:03,240
The only issue here is whether or not it's how much money they paid.

1958
02:41:03,820 --> 02:41:08,720
So, it's like every eminent domain action that there is, you know, usually we're on the side

1959
02:41:08,720 --> 02:41:08,980
of it.

1960
02:41:09,520 --> 02:41:14,480
So, this is just about making the right business decision with regards to the cards that we

1961
02:41:14,480 --> 02:41:15,840
were dealt by the federal government.

1962
02:41:16,340 --> 02:41:24,200
It must be known if for any reason the judge, you got to deal with the men's timeline, do we have to come back and vote on this again?

1963
02:41:25,480 --> 02:41:26,640
No, we're just making sure.

1964
02:41:26,640 --> 02:41:27,240
We're going to settle it.

1965
02:41:27,660 --> 02:41:33,380
And at this point in time, as far as I'm concerned, we have a settlement once you guys got it.

1966
02:41:33,380 --> 02:41:36,320
The camp like a Greece to it.

1967
02:41:36,380 --> 02:41:36,600
Okay.

1968
02:41:36,600 --> 02:41:37,800
We'll sign it and provide it.

1969
02:41:38,240 --> 02:41:42,400
If they, for some reason they decided that they were going to stall, I would go to court to enforce this.

1970
02:41:42,520 --> 02:41:42,800
Okay.

1971
02:41:42,900 --> 02:41:43,380
Thank you.

1972
02:41:43,380 --> 02:41:50,700
So the only thing I'll add to it is obviously I've been very conflicted on this issue for some of

1973
02:41:50,700 --> 02:41:51,200
days.

1974
02:41:51,980 --> 02:42:01,400
But we understand this is regardless of the outcome of this ten plus year protest, there

1975
02:42:01,400 --> 02:42:13,840
money that can be received by the tongue to regardless of the decision. The idea is not to,

1976
02:42:14,820 --> 02:42:20,480
the tongue to be very supportive of this effort and I appreciate it. I don't think we are

1977
02:42:20,480 --> 02:42:22,360
saying that

1978
02:42:24,380 --> 02:42:30,520
we stop to continue to support the protest. That's not what we are saying. What we

1979
02:42:30,520 --> 02:42:36,200
saying is there is money that can be reasonably old to the township and we don't want to leave

1980
02:42:36,200 --> 02:42:44,260
that money on the table is that that's that's that's correct okay we know

1981
02:42:45,920 --> 02:42:47,680
now I'm clerk

1982
02:42:49,820 --> 02:42:53,840
councilman embarrassing yes councilwoman friends for the be more

1983
02:42:53,840 --> 02:43:00,420
corazi yes mayor crema yes councilman on each other yes councilman saying councilwoman who

1984
02:43:01,840 --> 02:43:02,800
Yes.

1985
02:43:03,240 --> 02:43:03,400
Yes.

1986
02:43:06,860 --> 02:43:15,480
Resolution 26392, authorizing stormwater detention facility maintenance agreement, IITIL, executive

1987
02:43:15,480 --> 02:43:28,980
drive, LLC, 1 through 1 through 3 executive drive, block 469, lots, 1.03, 1.04 and 1.07.

1988
02:43:28,980 --> 02:43:36,140
on site detention basin and associated stormwater pipes and structures to present to his

1989
02:43:36,140 --> 02:43:40,820
presensitive township council for adoption, do we have a motion?

1990
02:43:42,000 --> 02:43:42,660
So move.

1991
02:43:42,860 --> 02:43:44,480
Second it.

1992
02:43:44,580 --> 02:43:45,360
Move within second.

1993
02:43:46,020 --> 02:43:46,780
Any discussion?

1994
02:43:48,780 --> 02:43:49,660
Madam Clerk.

1995
02:43:49,820 --> 02:43:50,980
Councilman embarrassing.

1996
02:43:51,420 --> 02:43:51,480
Yes.

1997
02:43:51,680 --> 02:43:52,840
Councilwoman Francois.

1998
02:43:53,760 --> 02:43:54,740
Deputy Mayor Corrosy.

1999
02:43:55,300 --> 02:43:55,880
Mayor Cramer.

2000
02:43:56,640 --> 02:43:56,800
Yes.

2001
02:43:56,800 --> 02:43:57,780
Councillor Nunni Chaka?

2002
02:43:57,800 --> 02:43:58,280
Yes.

2003
02:43:58,360 --> 02:43:59,400
Councillor Nunni Chaka?

2004
02:43:59,420 --> 02:43:59,580
Yes.

2005
02:43:59,740 --> 02:44:00,960
Councillor Nunni Chaka?

2006
02:44:01,060 --> 02:44:01,660
Yes.

2007
02:44:03,340 --> 02:44:03,640
Councillor Nunni.

2008
02:44:03,780 --> 02:44:03,920
Yes.

2009
02:44:05,040 --> 02:44:08,480
Board committee's commission vacancies, anyone have an nomination?

2010
02:44:12,770 --> 02:44:13,410
Hearing none.

2011
02:44:14,310 --> 02:44:16,950
There wasn't an executive session scheduled.

2012
02:44:17,890 --> 02:44:19,570
I think we've nothing to do now.

2013
02:44:19,610 --> 02:44:21,330
It's not needed now, so.

2014
02:44:21,470 --> 02:44:21,690
Yeah.

2015
02:44:22,570 --> 02:44:26,030
We, um, to have a motion to adjourn.

2016
02:44:27,630 --> 02:44:27,870
Second.

2017
02:44:27,870 --> 02:44:35,590
move in second at all in favor say aye aye opposed say nay motion is carried we are a

2018
02:44:36,850 --> 02:44:38,490
adjourned be well frank limit