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>>Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, I

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call the June 3, 2026 meeting of the

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Frederick County planning commission

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order. The invocation will beOffered by

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Bobby Elster from (INAUDIBLE) Baptist

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Church. Please remain standing for the

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Pledge of Allegiance.

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>>Let us pray. Heavenly father, we

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thank you for this amazing time of year

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that we get to experience your creation

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come alive and new life, Lord. I thank

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you, father, that we can gather as a

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community and express our views about

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matters of concern for us.I thank you

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for the planning commission that is

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done their due diligence in bringing

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forth something that would benefit all.

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I am reminded of James chapter 1 where

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it says be quick to listen, slow to

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speak and slow to anger. I pray God

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tonight will be expressed in that way,

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in Jesus's name, amen.

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>>Will you lead us in the pledge,

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please?

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>>I pledge allegiance to the flag of

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the United States of America and to the

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Republic for which it stands, One

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nation, under God, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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>>Thank you, thank you, Pastor.

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That leads us to the adoption of the

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agenda. I would like to propose two

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changes, I would like to move items 8B

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and 8C, which are a public hearingAt a

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conditional use permit that we have on

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the agenda for tonight, would like to

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move those to the July meetingAnd I

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would like to moveItem 8DUp to item 8 a

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and slide D,Item AA back to 8B.

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Be glad to entertain a motion for that

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change. I have a motion, is there a

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second?We have a motion and a second.

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Any discussion?All those in favor

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signify by saying aye.

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>>Aye.

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>>Motion carries.The March 18 meeting,,

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Comments, corrections, additions to the

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minutes?Glad to receive a motion to

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accept those as presented.

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>>I make a motion to approve the

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minutes.

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>>Is there a second?

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>>Second.

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>>All in favor say aye.

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>>Aye. The minutes are adopted.

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Committee reports. And reports to my

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right? Do we have any?Committee reports

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to my left?

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>>I do, Mr. share.Frederick water did

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not have remote board meeting in May,

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there was a special meeting toListen to

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Wiley WilsonIn the board authorized $33

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millionFor the water supply, that's

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part one of these fit initiative. We

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also receivedAn update on the GIS

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system and improvementsOf Frederick

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water and weReviewed us similar rehab

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projectTo the Berryville gravity, 4100

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linear feetOf sewer was lined and

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should last us 50 years.That's it.

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>>Very good. Any other reports to my

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left? I know the difference. I have one

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from the transportation committee who

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met this past Monday and there are

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couple of things I want to point out. I

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know social mediaIn Winchester Star has

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been noticed that (INAUDIBLE) will be

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re-decking and resurfacing the bridge

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on route 7/81, the work will begin on

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Thursday nightAnd hopefully inBy early

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Monday morning, the traffic will beDown

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to one land on each of those bridges

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while the work is going on.I would say

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leave out early if you have to go that

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way. The second and third thing we have

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learned from the sheriff department is

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the speed cameras that have been put up

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in school zones which have only been up

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for about three monthsHave clocked in

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18,000 violations.That's on Route seven

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522 near Gainsborough middle. Slow

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down, people.Those are school zones.

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Last but not least, June 23 there is a

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V.public hearingAt Millbrook high school

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from 4 PM to 6 PMTo presentThe designs

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for theExit 317On I 81, That is the

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Stevenson exit, up whereThe steakhouse

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and those things are. That is a report

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on the transportation committeeAnd that

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leads us to the board report.

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>>Mr. Chairman, Commissioners,There

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were three itemsThat the planning

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commissionSentTo the Board of

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Supervisors or action, Public hearings

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were held on these three items.

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Ordinance amendment to the Frederick

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County code modifications chapter 165

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zoning ordinance, That was approved.

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Ordinance amendment to the Frederick

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144, the subdivision ordinance, that

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was approved also, AndOrdinance

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amendment to the Frederick County code

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modification to amend chapter 161

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sewage disposal and sewers, That was

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also approved. Mr. Chairman, that

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concludes my report.

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>>Thank you, sir.I didn't see anyone

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from Winchester. Is there anyone here

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from Winchester?Okay.Good, I didn't

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Okay, that leads us to item 7, which is

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comments, this is a time where if you

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would like to address the planning

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commission concerning an item that is

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not on her agenda this evening this

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would be the time to do so if you would

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like to speak to the planning

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commission, please come to the podium,

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state your name, your districts and

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limit your comments to three minutes or

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less. Would anybody like to address the

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planning commission? I see none so I

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will close the comment period. This

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leads us to public hearings. With the

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reshuffling of ourAgenda, the first

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item up will be a draft update of the

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2026 '27Interstate primary and road

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improvement plans.Mr. Bednar, good

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evening, sir.

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>>Thank you, Mr. chair.Aaron Bittner,

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planner two. This is the annual update

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of the interstate primary and secondary

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road plans, you're probably quite

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familiar with this, the secondary road

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planFor the general public, that does

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require a public hearing. For ease we

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complying all three plans into one

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package. Moving into the interstate

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Road improvement plan, the main changes

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here have been verbiage updates to

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bring in line with the state code and

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then alsoWe have been advancing 310 and

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313 improvements in priority to reflect

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Being funded. For primary Road

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improvement plan there are no changes

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anticipate having changes come from the

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comprehensive plan bottling exercise,

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so there will beSubstantial changes

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coming in the future.

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Redbud Road realignment, this is the

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major road improvement project on this

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list, this is a carryover from the

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funding method, V.and the state has

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turned over to smart scale. This is the

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last of the projects funded through the

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old method, so once this has gone, This

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slide will likely be disappearing.As

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for the rest of our secondary roads we

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have are nonservice road improvement

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projects, main change year has been

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it is now been scheduled, the full

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schedulesAre all in your packet an

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annual report.And then we have are on

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schedule road improvement projects,

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these are unpaved roadsThat are aiming

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to be completed but haven't been

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scheduled, the two additions here are

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veterans Road in Shady Creek Road,

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these were both added due to petitions.

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The transportation committee reviewed

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and next recommended approval of this

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documentAt their meeting this year,

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this item is presented to you as a

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public hearing item following that

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public hearing staff are seeking

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recommendations to the Board of

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Supervisors, that public hearing is

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scheduled for June 10 next week. Staff

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are available at this point for

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>>Any questions for Mr. Bittner?In

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question to my right?Thank you very

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much, sir.

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This is a public hearing, if anybody

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would like to speak to this item this

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would be the time to do so. State your

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name, district, please limit your

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comments to three minutes or less. Good

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evening.

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>>Could evening, my name is Todd Lake

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and I am here representing Garrett

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Farms LLC. I stand before you as the

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third generation of my family to

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represent or to present to this

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commission over a 40 year span.My

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grandfather began his effort more than

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four decades ago and my mother

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continued in 1994, and I am here to

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carry on the legacy. I'm here to speak

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on the non-surface road improvement

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project in this plan. Specifically,

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veterans Road in Middletown between

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Meadow Mills and Chapel Road. When I

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was growing up this stretch of veterans

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road was unpaved due to my

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grandfather's persistence and advocacy

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for the county had made the decision to

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pave a portion of the road in 1994. Due

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to budget constraints the project was

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stopped short ending at fourth Street

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and leaving the remaining .52 miles

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unpaved. For more than 30 yearsThis

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partial completion has created

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confusion and frustration for the

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surrounding community. The roadThat was

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intended to serve residents effectively

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was only improved halfway. Today that

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remaining stretch has finally been

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placed on the counties unscheduled

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list. I am here to respectfully ask you

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move this project forward. Our family

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farm spends much of the length of this

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unpaid section. We along with the

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residents will not rely on this road

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are unified in support to seeing this

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completed. I understandThe cost today

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is far greater than it would've been in

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1994. However,The need has only grown

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and the consequences of leaving an

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unfinished continued impact those who

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live and travel along this road every

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day. I leave you with this thought.

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Completing only half of a project

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ultimately limits its value.It's like

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designing and building an airplane but

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choosing not to install landing year to

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save money. What could have been fully

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functional and effective is left

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incomplete, unable to serve its purpose.

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Tonight you have the opportunity to

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correct the decision made more than 30

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years ago and to provide a practical

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lasting solution for the residents of

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this community. On behalf of my family,

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our farm, and the neighbors, I

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respectfully ask for your support

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moving this project forward.Thank you

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for your consideration.

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>>What anybody else like to speak to

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this manner?I will close the public

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hearing.Planning commissioners, what's

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your pleasure here?

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>>Mr. Chairman, I make a motion we move

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this forward to the board with

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recommendation for approval.

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>>We have a motion, is there a second?

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>>Second.

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>>We have a motion and a second. Any

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further discussion?Okay.Doctor, can you

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[CALLING ROLL]

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>>The motion carries, this will go to

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the Board of Supervisors July 8.. Thank

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you very much.That takes us toItem 8B,

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which was previously 8A, a rezoning

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04-26 for Virginia technology partner.

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Let me, I would assumeThat's what folks

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are here for, so let me make a couple

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of editorial commentsJust so you know.

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If you are following the calendar, You

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might be interested to know thatTuesday

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of next week we will have a work

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session, planningWork session right

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here in this roomAnd we will be

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Discussing the Winchester Gateway LLC

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application which is also a data center

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. That will be similar to the work

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session that we had for the project we

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are discussing tonight, that will begin

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at 6 PM right here in this room. We do

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anticipate public hearing on thatBut

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that is not yetConfirmed. As for

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tonight, Mr. Pierson, let me speak.

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>>Mr. Bittner for headcount?

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>>If you did not sign up and you wish

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to sign up, Mr. Bittner who was just up

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here has the list.

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>>Forty Seven are signed up to speak.

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>>Forty Seven? Okay. That's fine, we

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want everyone to have an opportunityTo

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speak. All I am asking is we've got to

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maintain a decorum or we will be here

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till 6 o'clock tomorrow morning.So if

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we understandThe concerns, if you are

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here for the work session you understand

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We grilled the applicant pretty good on

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those concerns, soI would just ask that

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you keep your comments brief, everyone

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will have three minutes, but we would

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appreciateThe minimizing of theHand

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clapping, cheering and so on that are

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going to delay us. We also ask when you

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come to the cup podium to speak we will

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list off two names. If you are the next

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one, but kind the person who is there

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so we can move thisAlong

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quickly. Behind. Mr. Pearson?

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>>Thank you. This is John Bishop's

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case, so think warmly of him as he

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enjoysJamaicaAnd I have to do this for

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him. When you graduate with a planning

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degree they say they're sending a

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crystal ball in the mail,John must've

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got here his, heBought his ticket six

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months ago and got on the plane today.

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This is an application for 220 acres in

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the Stonewall magisterial district to

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rezone the property from the RA zoning

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district to TM technology manufacturing

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, general locations 1420, arrest Church

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Road in the proposed use as mentioned

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is the data center Park.Using the

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countywide locator map the area in red

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is the general location of the property

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in question in the Stonewall

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magisterial District, just west of exit

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323 outlined in purpleOn your zoning

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map you can see the property isZoned

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RA, the adjoining property to the east,

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Flying J as well as a number of other

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small businesses along Zachary Ann Lane

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includingThe cat rental and then the

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properties to the west are all

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Residential subdivisions includingThe

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roads, McBeth, Jolene, Timberlake

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Slane, the Ridgeway state subdivision

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in the properties on the north side of

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Rush Church Road, a residential and

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agricultural in nature. This is the

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long-range map for this area, The

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candycane stripe colorCalled mixed-use

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industrial office, The property to these

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Our orange business into the

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southeastern generalIndustrial.As

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mentioned, the properties west this

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zone and planTo remain rural in nature.

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That's a location mapWithout all the

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colors on it for context, exit 323

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Amazon distribution, around 11, West

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Virginia is just off the north partOf

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this map. To reorient youAs the concept

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plan actuallyDisplays a lot clearerWith

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north on the right side of the screen,

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this is an illustrative image from the

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applicant'sExhibit showing the

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conceptual layout of how the property

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could be developed in the futureIf the

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resulting is approved. Casual note is

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about 10 plans as well as an office

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componentAnd three substation patents,

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the requisite stormwater management and

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a new road called technology Park Road

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that will go throughThe property can be

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built by the applicant.. By the

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numbers, 10 to 11 data center buildings

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totaling 2,000,000 ft. , likely three

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substation pads, 6 acres each, up to

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288 diesel generators as backup for the

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data center buildings and 24,000Square

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feet of office space.

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Your comprehensive plan, the section

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that speaks directly to this property

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is the Northeast land use plan. Back in

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2023, there is a wide range ofTax that

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applies to this area and I've snipped a

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couple for the slide but I will

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summarize it as I'm sure you've heard

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the staff report. This area of the

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county particularly the mixed-use

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industrial office planned areas are

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intended to be filled by targeted

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growth sectors identified by the EDA

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which does include information

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technology and data center style uses.

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However, those uses that contribute

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significantly to air noise and light

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pollution may not be appropriate in

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this area of the county as well. It

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should be noted and it is clearly noted

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in the comp plan that this particular

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areaDoes have significantTransmission

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capabilitiesWith (INAUDIBLE) running

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for it. The plan was written before the

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proposed, Show this for context as well,

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again, proposed Nextera substation on

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this propertyThat you will review for

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2232 and then there's the 500 kV line

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There as well.

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Additionally these areas are

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anticipated to be highly visible in the

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both the building and site design

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should be of high quality but also

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enhancedBuffers and screening should be

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Applied along roadways and surrounded

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residences. Call application should

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seek to mitigate their impact on those

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residences.

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The applicant included a proper

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statement that I will overview, you saw

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sitting at the daisOur redlined minor

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change that we received around lunch

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time around from the applicant, that's

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highlighted in yellow on the slide and

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the ensuing slides to show you what

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they modified, so they are proffering

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generalized development plan which I

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will show in a minute so that will be

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built in general conformance with that

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plan.That they're going to prohibit all

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uses except for computing

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infrastructure data struck processor

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and data centers, they used at Flex

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Pack in there in the proper statement

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on the website, butThey ever move that

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uses well, so the only remaining uses

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other than data centers that could be

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developed on the property if the

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properties rezoned are uses that would

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be later added to the zoning district

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by an ordinance amendment approved by

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the Board of Supervisors. Additionally,

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the accessory uses that support data

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centers are includedAnd listed there,

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they proffered into a traffic impact

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analysis and implement the associated

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improvements if any of the uses proposed

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Exceed what they studied in the TIA,

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there's perimeter landscaping including

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a 75 foot buffer area and an 8 footFirm

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along the Carrollton and Ridgeway

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subdivisions. This is the generalized

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development plan that I referred to

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earlier that they proffer to, the

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property being built in general

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conformanceWith, it's largely in

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compliance with the illustrative sketch

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but brings additional detail as to the

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locations of the plantings, the

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setbacks, structure locations and some

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of the stormwater floodplains as well.

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One of our GIS text provided a rough

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estimate of physical distanceFrom

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existing structures to the proposed

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structures on the generalized

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development plan so those are shown here

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and in some cases they range from 1000

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feetDown to I think the smallest, the

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closest one is on the other side, north

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side of Rush Church Road and that's only

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261 feet, just there for planning

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commissioners context.

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The applicant provided per the planning

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commission's request and the work

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session someView shed analysis as an

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attempt to identifyWhat could be

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visited with bull and all of them speak

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to this in further detail but to

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explain how that graphic works each one

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of these lines shown on the core

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graphic corresponds to one of the

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exhibits provided in the packet and is

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numbered accordingly as to which way an

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individual will be looking and so

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there's the kind ofCross-section of

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those view lines from where those lines

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are shown on the map, The applicant can

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provide further context about this in

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their presentation.. Moving back to the

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second section of the proper statement,

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the applicant has proffered two-tier

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generators or equivalent low emission

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units and in particular permitted them

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to be for emergency use only, So you

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probably heard a lot about these are

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generators diesel generatorsRelative to

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data center use. If someone doesn't

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tear for generator they don't permit it

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for emergency use and they can run it

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duringPeak pricing circumstances for

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power, but there committing in their

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proper statements to operate them for

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emergency use only.The clear

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clarificationBetween previous versions

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of the proffers they have seen.Also

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limiting generator testingMonday

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through Friday 1 to 5 in the initial

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yellowsAnd dictates no more than 50%

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will be tested at any given time, they

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proper to a 70 dB limitation where the

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property abuts the industrial and

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business zone properties to the east of

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theAnd then 60 DBAs were the property

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abuts residential to the westRequire

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use ofSound mitigating equipment on the

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chillers and the other sound producing

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items and required supplementary

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Environmental authorities impact

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assessment based on the equipmentThat

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is installed in the property is

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constructed. A significant list of

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building materials that they intend to

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use for the architectural I would note

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that the proper lessons that we at

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least one of thoseAnd had previously

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said they would use some of those, So

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it's like further clarification but not

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binding to use all of themAnd then to

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proffer the future of design guidelines

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manual, That is not yet created and is

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unclear as to what it would contain

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until it is created. The last one is

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nuisance a work session and that's a

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$10,000 to purchase a sound meter for

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the user other thanAs mentioned on GDP

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because it toWould be built through the

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process andUpgrades around 11 and rest

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Church Road, right-of-way reservation

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the future widening of Russ Church

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Road, the construction of technology

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Park Road, Abandon Ruebuck Lane where

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it extends into the properly and

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prohibits access from rubric and to the

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property or out of the property, for

550
00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:39,100
that matter, the dedication of an

551
00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:41,401
additional 25 foot right-of-way, The

552
00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:49,100
paving of Ruebuck and McBeth Lane to

553
00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:50,100
rustic standards in the construction of

554
00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:53,100
turnaroundIn the Macbeth Lane is the

555
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:54,100
addition to that proffer that came in

556
00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:55,100
late today, and then all deliveriesFor

557
00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:58,100
developmentAre taking place outside of

558
00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:01,601
peak hours.The signage is limitedTo

559
00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:06,601
West Church Road.From a lighting

560
00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:09,100
perspective, no more than 25 feet above

561
00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:11,100
grade and lighting within 50 feet of

562
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:14,100
the property line will be

563
00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:16,100
perpendicular, facing away from the

564
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:18,401
property line, $150, Sorry, thousand

565
00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:25,100
gross bare feet, $1000 square feet of

566
00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:26,100
constructed building. On the water and

567
00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:29,100
sewer sides a limitedGallons per day

568
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:32,100
usage of 120,000 gallons per dayHow

569
00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:34,100
they will construct all on-site

570
00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:36,100
improvementsTo the property for water

571
00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:39,601
and sewer.The support will(INAUDIBLE)

572
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:48,100
for the service tracks and he will not

573
00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:51,601
use any groundwater for any reason.

574
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:53,100
Proffer eight is relative to cultural

575
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:55,100
resourcesInvestigation, preservation

576
00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:57,401
and architecturalStudy of prior

577
00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:03,100
property to MVP, prior to MVP approval

578
00:26:03,100 --> 00:26:07,100
To structures that are on the property

579
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:08,100
And then a further archaeological

580
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:11,100
assessment.Diabetes for nine cousins

581
00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:14,401
and thousand dollar contributionCalled

582
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:21,100
infrastructure programming is typical,

583
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:23,100
CPI is slated for all monetaryConference

584
00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:25,100
that

585
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:39,100
Has included in further detail, staff

586
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:40,100
lists a number of positive concerns for

587
00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:41,100
the application, the positives are that

588
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:42,100
from a land-use perspective it's a

589
00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:43,100
conference plan, it is a low overall

590
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:44,100
traffic generation for other proposals

591
00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:48,201
As well as. They are seeking to

592
00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:57,100
accommodate the roadway, there is some

593
00:26:57,100 --> 00:26:58,100
buffering in the near residential

594
00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:01,100
properties. Staff still has concerns

595
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,100
about the sound analysis and Alexis

596
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:16,100
curses here at the table and happy to

597
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:17,100
answer questionsOn the planning

598
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:20,601
commission will get to that. The

599
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:23,100
applicant has additional information

600
00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:24,100
they will describe to you about how

601
00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:25,100
they further studied the topicDuring

602
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:27,401
their presentation, The equipment

603
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:30,401
updates, attenuation should beProperty

604
00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:36,201
keep the facility up to date continue

605
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:38,100
to minimize noise in the future. We

606
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:39,100
have concerns about whether the

607
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:40,100
transition zone one is inherently

608
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:43,100
industrialThe rat maximum about people,

609
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:50,100
WhatThose go hand-in-hand with the

610
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:00,100
noise getting medication issues. The

611
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:01,100
berm is not specific at this point

612
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:02,100
given there is significantly floodplain

613
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:05,100
through the partParvo. Is not

614
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:13,100
abundantly clear in the proper sailor

615
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:17,201
out theAnd if theEasements to. This is

616
00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:32,100
presented as a public hearing item, we

617
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:33,100
seek a recommendation following the

618
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:36,100
public hearing to forward to the Board

619
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:37,100
of Supervisors on this proposed

620
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:38,100
rezoning, I am happy to answer any

621
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:41,100
questions, As I mentioned, Alexis from

622
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:42,100
Trinity consultants is done the peer

623
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:45,100
reviewsHere is available as well. Mr.

624
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:47,100
Chairman?

625
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:50,100
>>Any questions for Mr. Pearson to my

626
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:53,601
left?Any questions tomorrow right?Mr.

627
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:58,100
Whitaker

628
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:08,100
>>Where they supposed to be getting

629
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:09,100
their water.

630
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:13,201
>>The applicant is going to connect to

631
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:15,100
the Frederick water system.

632
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:16,100
>>They are using groundwater.

633
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:17,100
>>Asked.It inExtracts the entirety from

634
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:20,601
theCity of Winchester. The city system

635
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:23,100
is the water system.

636
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:27,100
>>For them to say they're not going to

637
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:28,100
use groundwaterIs it accurate?

638
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:32,801
>>I think they are going to tap private

639
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:36,100
groundwater sources on the property.

640
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:39,100
>>Thank you for the clarity.

641
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:45,601
>>Mr. Pearson, earlier today we received

642
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:47,100
A document that said there were

643
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:51,100
neighbors who did not, Who took no

644
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:52,100
exception with this project. Where

645
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:53,100
those neighbors located? Can you show

646
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:57,100
us on the map? I did recognize the

647
00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:58,100
street name as being one adjacent to

648
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:00,100
this project.

649
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:02,100
>>I will let the applicant provide

650
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:06,201
further details. The addresses and I saw

651
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:14,100
(INAUDIBLE) showed her the programming

652
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:16,100
of believeAnd they can speak in greater

653
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:17,100
detail to that.

654
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:18,100
>>Okay, thank you. Can we ask Alexis

655
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:21,100
some questions?I hate for her to come

656
00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:22,100
all this way.

657
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:25,100
>>Alexis, If you want, you can use the

658
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:27,100
microphone there.

659
00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:30,100
>>At evening.

660
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:32,100
>>Good evening, thank you for being

661
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:33,100
here. Can you talk to us about the

662
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:35,401
receiverAnd how the increaseThat's

663
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:39,100
proposed in decibels.

664
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:43,201
>>When we are talking about receiver we

665
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:53,201
are looking at towards the flying J,

666
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:55,100
The difference is negligible, I believe

667
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:56,100
it's about what it currently is, The

668
00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:58,100
noise level. The noise created by the

669
00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:01,100
data centerAt the flying J is not

670
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:03,401
perceivedTo be much different.

671
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:09,100
Looking toward the residences, it's a

672
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:10,100
significant increaseAnd what is

673
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:13,601
currently there. This is, Sound is

674
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:20,201
logarithmic and if I sayIs 30 dB or, 6

675
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:27,100
to 8 times louder than what's currently

676
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:29,401
there, What was measured.

677
00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:32,100
>>Was how muchLadder?

678
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:33,100
>>6 to 8 times letter.

679
00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:37,801
>>If I am in my backyardCooking a steak

680
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:42,801
on the grillI could have a lot more

681
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:45,100
Sound is what you're telling me?

682
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:46,100
>>You could.

683
00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:47,100
>>Okay.All right.

684
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:49,100
>>Mr. Chairman?

685
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:03,100
>>Thank you for being here tonight, the

686
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:05,100
chairman indicatedWe had gotten a

687
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:08,601
memorandum titled peer review member of

688
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:15,100
. Could you just maybe give us a little

689
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:16,100
context on what that means or what the

690
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:17,100
procedures were that went into this

691
00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:18,100
document?

692
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:19,100
>>Sure. So we were provided with the

693
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:21,401
applicant'sAmbient noise survey that

694
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:28,100
was doneJanuary, we're excited thatAnd

695
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:40,100
then our word in the 19th which

696
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:41,100
discussed the changes they have put

697
00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:44,601
forward. We reviewed both of thoseAnd

698
00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:47,100
gave our professional opinionOn what we

699
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:50,601
were seeingAnd maybe what was either

700
00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:07,100
>>Okay. Greedy off the report I am

701
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:08,100
under the executive summary section

702
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:09,100
where there is a comment on the

703
00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:10,100
Fruitville data center acoustic

704
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:13,601
evaluation report. As a, The data

705
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:17,100
center in this best case was scenario,

706
00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:20,601
all chillers on, all generators off,

707
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:24,100
normal operating mode, Will be

708
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:27,401
affecting many nearby receptor

709
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:35,601
Tremendously. A current various. To the

710
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:49,100
left or the residence located, the

711
00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:50,100
western perimeter than the noise letter

712
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:53,100
Levels underThe normal operating new

713
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:57,100
generators, just the normal pulling

714
00:33:57,100 --> 00:34:00,601
childrenThis is perceived as being 2 to

715
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:12,201
4 times as loud asThe proposed 50 dB of

716
00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:27,601
most of the residential property lines.

717
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:32,100
Companion who nowThat level itselfJune

718
00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:56,100
It specifically calls out we need to

719
00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:57,100
measure was there so we understand

720
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:58,100
what's there right now.

721
00:34:58,100 --> 00:34:59,100
>>Significant change from where we are

722
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:03,100
now to where at this proposal to scope

723
00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:04,100
forward even in the best case scenario

724
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:06,401
where it's coolingAnd 288 generators

725
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:11,100
are running?

726
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:13,100
>>Correct.

727
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:15,100
>>Thank you for the clarification in

728
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:17,401
the report and analysis.

729
00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:20,100
>>Any other questions? Yes, sir. Yes

730
00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:21,100
ma'amHypothetical information?

731
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:24,601
>>No, I wouldn't say it was

732
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:44,100
hypothetical information. The applicant

733
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:45,100
did measurements, stated those in the

734
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:46,100
report, we are able to look at what the

735
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:50,100
noise level is, that's measured.And then

736
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:51,100
The other document which they put

737
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:53,100
forward says we are going to useThis

738
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:55,100
type of chiller, we are going to use

739
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:58,601
this type ofGenerator, These are the

740
00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:01,100
levels that the manufacturers have

741
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:05,201
provide us. Then they input that intoAn

742
00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:07,100
acoustical analysis program called

743
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:10,100
sound plan, Which is something issues

744
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:13,601
industrywideIt deals with not only the

745
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:23,100
noise but also the contours of the

746
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:24,100
land. The looks of any kind of barriers

747
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:25,100
that are there, so I believe the

748
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:28,100
applicant hasBarriers on the roof and

749
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:29,100
that any of the chillers on the roof

750
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:32,100
are actually shieldedOr shield he was

751
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:34,100
on the roof to essentially make that

752
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:37,601
pathIt's a straight shot to the

753
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:48,100
property line. Having a barrier on the

754
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:50,100
roof, some of the noises reflected off.

755
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:51,100
It takes that into consideration and

756
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:54,100
says if we use these generatorsAnd this

757
00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:57,100
is where the data center is in these

758
00:36:57,100 --> 00:36:58,100
are the barriers that we put in line

759
00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:02,801
and we are using, We are limiting our

760
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:06,100
generators, using type for generators

761
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:07,100
and this is a sound label that we know

762
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:08,100
those have, this is also going to be

763
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:11,100
there.. It's not hypothetical. It's

764
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,100
based on information that exists.

765
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:16,601
>>The word ifSounds iffy. The first

766
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:21,100
presentation in the first sentence, use

767
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:25,100
the wordOn all the data that was

768
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:29,100
brought in for about the signs, And the

769
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:30,100
word hypotheticals in that first

770
00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:33,100
sentence., What they're doing, what

771
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:44,801
will he do, absolutely do. If this and

772
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:50,100
if that.

773
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:51,100
I can address that, he's probably

774
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:52,100
better and Alexis can. The sound model

775
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:56,801
and the rules of theTurn of written in

776
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:01,100
the Burma-Shave room. There wasTo

777
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:04,100
achieve a certain DBA and use the sound

778
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:08,100
model they can justify to make it your

779
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:09,100
point is accurate that the modeling

780
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:12,601
itself is in no way bindingThose

781
00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:14,100
proffered requirements are the things

782
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:15,100
that they have offered to try to give

783
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:18,601
the county confidenceIn their cable, the

784
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:27,100
And the model reports he can feasibly

785
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:28,100
get there. Does that make sense?

786
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:29,100
>>Nowhere and binding, this only the

787
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:31,401
proper statement. 62 Thank you.

788
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:39,100
>>Any other questions for Mr. Pearson?

789
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:40,100
>>What are the legal ramificationsIf

790
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:43,601
they surpassed the 60.What are the

791
00:38:57,100 --> 00:38:58,100
revocations if they exceed?

792
00:38:58,100 --> 00:38:59,100
>>I will speak to the first part handed

793
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:04,100
off to Mr. Fox who takes it to the

794
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:05,100
court system. When we have documented a

795
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:06,100
proper violation in this case it was

796
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:07,100
noise would collect evidence of the

797
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:09,100
violationAnd cite the property owner,

798
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:10,100
give them 30 days to remedy the

799
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:13,100
violation and provide a plan of how

800
00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:14,100
they are going to, if they don't

801
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:16,100
respond or they fail to know that Mark

802
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:20,201
We go to the magistrateAnd follow the

803
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:22,100
court in Mr. Fox's office takes it from

804
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:24,100
there.

805
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:30,100
>>That's correct. Just remind everyone,

806
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:31,100
the proffers become part of the zoning

807
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:32,100
ordinance of the enforcement of the

808
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:33,100
proffers is no different than the

809
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:34,100
enforcement of any provision of the

810
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:36,100
existing consulting ordinance. As Mr.

811
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:38,100
Pearson is described,We try to resolve

812
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:41,601
these matters through working with. The

813
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:04,100
courts have been receptive to ordering

814
00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:05,100
including monetary fines and injunctive

815
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:06,100
relief, that will be an option there.

816
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:09,601
>>Any other questions?To my left?

817
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:14,100
>>Sorry, do we know what flying J

818
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:17,100
Current DBA, I know it wasBrought up

819
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:18,100
but I am trying to compare fine JThe

820
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:19,100
data center.

821
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:22,100
>>May be polyphonics with the

822
00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:28,100
applicants that study they might have a

823
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:30,100
better idea.

824
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:32,100
>>Okay.

825
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,100
>>Did you have another question?

826
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:40,801
>>Yes, but for Mr. Fox.If this data

827
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:45,100
center was for national security reasons

828
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:48,601
And they brokeSuch a covenantOn,Would

829
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:00,100
you look this county fighting the

830
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:03,100
federal government prices your reasons?

831
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:08,201
[LAUGHING]. Let me rescue you, Mr. Fox.

832
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:11,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

833
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:15,100
>>I'm not aware that that's ever been

834
00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:19,201
the case.The federal government is not

835
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:23,100
exempt from zoning requirements just

836
00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:24,100
because the federal government are

837
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:27,100
based on national security, The things

838
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:28,100
that I am familiar with our aircraft

839
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:30,100
impact zones from the(INAUDIBLE) area

840
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:33,100
and the federal government generally

841
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:35,100
works with community understanding that

842
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:39,100
people have to live there and that is a

843
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:40,100
cooperative process that results in

844
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:41,100
specific overlays to the zoning

845
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:42,100
ordinanceAnd I'm kind of rambling here

846
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:45,100
because you really third threw me a

847
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:48,100
curve ball there,Because I don't think

848
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:51,100
there's any indication the applicant is

849
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:52,100
not a government entity.

850
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:55,100
>>What we are dealing with in front of

851
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:56,100
usIs a

852
00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:59,601
>>The couple of times the government

853
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:04,100
has done projects in the county they

854
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:07,601
have either leased space from someone

855
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:11,100
who developed it, if that's the case

856
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:12,100
the property owner has to comply, the

857
00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:13,100
federal government's exemption in no

858
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:17,201
way carry throughThat and we have that

859
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:21,100
for I think the Army Corps building,

860
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:22,100
possibly for the FEMA building as well.

861
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:23,100
The other example is the records

862
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:24,100
facility where the purchase of property

863
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:27,100
outrightAnd went through our processAs

864
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:31,801
a courtesy to us.Those are the levels

865
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:43,100
that we have dealt withIn the county

866
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:44,100
currently.

867
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:48,201
>>If it's for the national security for

868
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:50,100
the military or something you have a

869
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:53,100
big expensive battle, A long battleAnd

870
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:55,401
probably won't be successful.

871
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:01,100
>>Wyatt?

872
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:02,100
>>Any other questions.

873
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:06,201
>>I have a question to the flying

874
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:08,100
answer to the flying J question. There

875
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:09,100
were three measurement locations taken

876
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:12,601
on that perimeter andDepending on which

877
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:14,100
statistical measurement use, Ellie Q,

878
00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:15,100
which is the average measurement time,

879
00:43:15,100 --> 00:43:18,100
the averageMeasurement,Sound it was

880
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:25,601
somewhere between 57 and 67 dB. If you

881
00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:28,100
look at it as an L 19, which is kind of

882
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:31,601
a baselineNoise level, it was between

883
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:35,100
46 and 58 dB. The projections over

884
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:42,201
Estimate no change to the alley QAnd 4

885
00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:51,100
dB for the L 90 numbers, just for a

886
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:54,100
point ofReference, for numbers is

887
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:57,100
rarely perceivable.

888
00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:02,100
>>Anything to my left? Anything to my

889
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:03,100
right? Thank you, Mr. Pearson.Mr.

890
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:05,401
Minshew? Good evening, sir.

891
00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:16,601
>>Members of the planning commission, I

892
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:22,100
am speaking on behalf of the applicant

893
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:23,100
tonight. I would like to start off

894
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:26,100
thanking Mr. PearsonAnd BishopFor their

895
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:29,100
very thorough professional work on this

896
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:32,601
application, We have been working about

897
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:34,100
eight months of this application and I

898
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:37,100
want to note there professionalsAt the

899
00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:41,201
start. This is an application to rezone

900
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:54,100
We have the applicant, the contract

901
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:56,401
purchaser cost civil engineering,

902
00:44:58,100 --> 00:44:59,100
acoustic, power infrastructure, we can

903
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:01,100
talk about the grid, Nextera,

904
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:04,100
Shenandoah Valley, also engineering in

905
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:06,100
dealing with water consumption in the

906
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:09,601
cooling apparatus. We have a fiscal

907
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:15,100
impact study that I don't believe Mr.

908
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:16,100
Pearson mentioned that we will be

909
00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:17,100
touching on and lastly but not least

910
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:21,201
the traffic.These are not within my

911
00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:24,100
areas of expertise so with your leave I

912
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:28,100
would like to hand the ball overSeven

913
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:31,601
bullet points at the startSubstation my

914
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:38,100
Nextera that is part of the grid, you

915
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:42,201
saw there was a 500 KB lineThat is

916
00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:51,100
literally right adjacent this property.

917
00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:52,100
On this property will be a Shenandoah

918
00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:54,100
Valley electrodermal electrical

919
00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:58,100
cooperative substation. That's unusual.

920
00:45:58,100 --> 00:45:59,100
Normally would have distant substations

921
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:00,100
from a data center. You've got

922
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:02,100
transmission lines, you've got the

923
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:05,601
Transmission lines. Here,Betsy the grid

924
00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:12,100
Comfortable parcel that is due south of

925
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:15,601
this for SovietYou go into the

926
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:22,100
Shenandoah Valley substation on site.

927
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:24,100
From there it becomes retail, power

928
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:28,100
that will go out to the data centers. I

929
00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:29,100
know the chairman we originally had

930
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:31,100
filed an ordinance exception to allow

931
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:34,601
for overheadPower lines. We met with

932
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:38,100
Shenandoah ValleyWe realize we will do

933
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:40,401
that. HereDistributionLine of power

934
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:45,100
Coming from the substation in the

935
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:48,100
underground. That means you're not

936
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:53,201
going to see any well transmission lines

937
00:46:58,100 --> 00:47:01,601
Of dead sinners. We offered to

938
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:05,100
(INAUDIBLE) our existing wells. To

939
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:06,100
Whitaker's question we are in the

940
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:07,100
swastika, water will come to usFrom

941
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:11,201
Frederick water, Better we will and I

942
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:18,801
can in front of our. It's not longer

943
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:28,100
than others in Frederick County,

944
00:47:28,100 --> 00:47:29,100
particularly manufacturing areas. We

945
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:31,100
have receivedA clear authorization for

946
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:33,100
the water that they can provide,

947
00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:36,601
hundred 20,000 gallons a dayAnd we will

948
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:40,100
be dealing, talk about later how that

949
00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:41,100
will be used for your condition and

950
00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:43,100
noted that we have profferedThe ambient

951
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:44,100
sound level and I'm sure we'll have

952
00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:46,100
conversations with noiseAnd I'll be

953
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:48,401
yelling the floorSeveralAcres are

954
00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:01,100
adjacent to this property. I wanted to

955
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:04,100
mention the data center useIs one that

956
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:08,201
generates a lot of tax revenues. We

957
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:10,100
have a study that was filed by McGuire

958
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:11,100
which consulting that we would ask for

959
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:14,100
anyThat this projectWill generate here

960
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:20,100
inDollars to Frederick County over

961
00:48:25,100 --> 00:48:28,601
Several years so will create 440 jobs

962
00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:32,100
for the starting salary of $72,500 and

963
00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:34,401
will inject approximately $600 million

964
00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:38,100
in wage income into the regional

965
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:39,100
economy. One thing that doesn't mention

966
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:40,100
is there will be electrical engineers

967
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:42,100
and contractorsWho will come and build

968
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:43,100
this. Please we skilled master

969
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:46,100
electricians, They will be paid

970
00:48:48,100 --> 00:48:49,100
pursuant to contract, hopefully they

971
00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:50,100
live in Frederick County and frankly

972
00:48:50,100 --> 00:48:52,100
one reason we are wanting to work with

973
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:54,100
the Laurel Ridge community college is

974
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:57,601
we would like to haveTraining facility

975
00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:01,601
here in Frederick County where will

976
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:08,201
Those type high school jobs, we could

977
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:10,100
be educating them and giving them jobs

978
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:13,601
in Frederick County.The property was

979
00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:16,100
mentioned, Mr. Pearson's presentation,

980
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:17,100
a total of 220 acres, is currently

981
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:19,401
planned forIndustrial mixed-use office

982
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:24,100
Uses., Toying 32 approval of theAnd.

983
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:45,401
You can see the nexus of session is to

984
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:54,100
Right where it says to be a technology

985
00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:55,100
Park that's where the substation would

986
00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:57,100
be. Tooth and jowl next to what is part

987
00:49:57,100 --> 00:50:00,100
of the grid. Additionally, Mr.

988
00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:03,601
Chairman, quite often there isA worry

989
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:06,100
that there will be a breakdown of the

990
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:09,100
distribution system of electricity. In

991
00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:14,100
this, you're going to have part of the

992
00:50:14,100 --> 00:50:15,100
grid, part of the PJM grid, 500 KB line

993
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:18,100
coming down to theNext up station. That

994
00:50:18,100 --> 00:50:19,100
will be new infrastructure. Extra

995
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:21,401
infrastructureThe next substation do

996
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:25,100
infrastructure, that will go into new

997
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:26,100
Electrical cooperative infrastructure.

998
00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:29,601
SoWe are not relying uponA rural

999
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:33,100
electrical distribution system.

1000
00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:34,100
Everything is going to be new. For that

1001
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:37,100
reason we think if there is, Get going

1002
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:41,801
to be. We don't do that, envision that,

1003
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:48,100
the Shenandoah Valley has given us a

1004
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:51,100
rundownAnd we have got a slight for

1005
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:54,100
that, but our electrical engineersGiven

1006
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:57,100
the newness of this infrastructure and

1007
00:50:57,100 --> 00:51:00,100
the location of the gridThatBelieve

1008
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:03,100
that if we have a blackout of property

1009
00:51:03,100 --> 00:51:05,100
is going to be regional in natureIf not

1010
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:08,601
just a substation. These are three

1011
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:13,100
Quotes, this is not our language, this

1012
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:15,100
all came from other professionals,

1013
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:18,100
Frederick water, Frederick water has

1014
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:21,100
told us that 120,000 gallons per day of

1015
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:24,100
demand can be accommodated. Again, the

1016
00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:27,100
source of that water is up to Frederick

1017
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:28,100
County, they can tell you where that

1018
00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:30,401
comes from.ThatIs probably 250

1019
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:37,100
single-family detached refreshing.We do

1020
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:43,100
have a proffer that will say that that

1021
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:49,100
water go to. Mr. Fox says it is a vault

1022
00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:52,100
zoning violation if we were to pull

1023
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:56,201
more than 120 gallons a dayOn that here

1024
00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:02,100
can we will make sure that is not

1025
00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:03,100
happening, Frederick water will also

1026
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:04,100
make sure that's not happening, SBAC it

1027
00:52:04,100 --> 00:52:05,100
has also said they can provide the

1028
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:06,100
loads required, they do have a separate

1029
00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:09,601
consumerClass, they have told us that

1030
00:52:13,100 --> 00:52:14,100
Provision of power through them as a

1031
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:16,401
retailProvider will not increase

1032
00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:20,100
residential rates, as for that

1033
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:22,401
substation,The consumers electrical

1034
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:29,100
power in Frederick County will not be

1035
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:30,100
paying for that substation, this

1036
00:52:30,100 --> 00:52:31,100
applicant will. Most likely there will

1037
00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:32,100
be a long-term easement or lease given

1038
00:52:32,100 --> 00:52:34,100
the SECIn this applicant will build

1039
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:38,100
kind of a build to suitFor the

1040
00:52:38,100 --> 00:52:40,401
Shenandoah Valley electrical cooperated.

1041
00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:44,100
They are aware of the risks and they

1042
00:52:44,100 --> 00:52:47,100
will insulate their membersFor many

1043
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:48,100
risk associated with the cost of this

1044
00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:50,401
project. LastlyPolyphonics is our

1045
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:55,401
consultant, basically the generators

1046
00:52:57,100 --> 00:52:58,100
will be governed by rigid industry

1047
00:52:58,100 --> 00:52:59,100
standards and we can get deeper into

1048
00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:02,100
noise that we are going to make sure

1049
00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:05,601
that we not onlyConstantly are below,

1050
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:12,100
We will have sound levels as low as 63

1051
00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:14,100
in residential areas.

1052
00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:17,100
I would like to briefly talk about staff

1053
00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:20,100
concerns, we work session here on May

1054
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:24,801
5 about a month ago and we revised our

1055
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:26,100
proffers based upon planning commission

1056
00:53:26,100 --> 00:53:30,801
input and I want to go through that.

1057
00:53:33,100 --> 00:53:34,100
These are on the left-hand side, you've

1058
00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:35,100
got staff report concerns, on the right

1059
00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:37,100
and signs are responses, basicallyWe

1060
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:38,100
have proffered to tier 4 compliant

1061
00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:40,401
generators. Tier 4 compliant generators

1062
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:43,100
is the highest industry standardAnd I

1063
00:53:43,100 --> 00:53:46,100
note that these are diesel generators

1064
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:49,601
andThe amountA generator makes sure that

1065
00:53:55,100 --> 00:53:56,100
carbon related gas emissions and

1066
00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:57,100
particulate are kept at a very low

1067
00:53:57,100 --> 00:54:00,601
level. This is adjacent to Interstate 81

1068
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:04,100
, Interstate 81 has a lot of truck

1069
00:54:04,100 --> 00:54:06,100
traffic and they primarily burn diesel.

1070
00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:08,100
Diesel fumes in this area, The

1071
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:11,100
stonewall district, Will be primarily

1072
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:14,100
coming from West 81, not fromDiesel

1073
00:54:14,100 --> 00:54:17,100
generators, Particularly with the type

1074
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:20,601
for compliance generators, We would be

1075
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:28,201
glad to address questions, But the tier

1076
00:54:29,100 --> 00:54:30,100
4 generators will make sure that the

1077
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:31,100
air is clean and that, again, they will

1078
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:34,100
only come onWhen there is a breakdown

1079
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:38,100
with the grid, other than for testing.

1080
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:42,801
We will talk about that later. We also

1081
00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:51,100
have a proper design guideline, we do

1082
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:52,100
not have those yet, that's

1083
00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:53,100
architectural document, we are going to

1084
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:54,100
prepare those, show them what the

1085
00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:55,100
buildings look like, that will be

1086
00:54:55,100 --> 00:54:56,100
enforced like your governance side,

1087
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:57,100
that we are property owners Association

1088
00:54:57,100 --> 00:54:59,100
here that will maintainConformance with

1089
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:00,100
the design guidelines. We are going to

1090
00:55:00,100 --> 00:55:04,100
file that with the county, We want to

1091
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:05,100
make sure they will see it but we are

1092
00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:06,100
not going to ask the zoning

1093
00:55:06,100 --> 00:55:08,100
administrator to serveAs judging the

1094
00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:10,100
integrity of the architectureBut that

1095
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:13,100
will be enforced privately by the

1096
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:16,100
partner Association.As Mr. Pearson

1097
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:20,100
mentioned, there was one useCould

1098
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:27,100
generate traffic, we have taken that

1099
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:28,100
out, unless the Board of Supervisors

1100
00:55:28,100 --> 00:55:30,100
were adding more uses, the only use

1101
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:31,100
allowed here would be the data center

1102
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:33,100
which would be a low trip generating

1103
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:36,100
use. We are installingBerms at

1104
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:39,100
locations, hopefully they could be

1105
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:42,100
built concurrent with the bermsThat

1106
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:44,100
(INAUDIBLE) will be building on those

1107
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:47,100
substations.We have those as ways of

1108
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:50,601
providing screening. I talked about the

1109
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:55,100
design guidelines.

1110
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:03,100
In terms of the noise, again, will be

1111
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:04,100
yielding the floor with your leave, Mr.

1112
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:05,100
Rob Miller can talk about noise and

1113
00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:06,100
address questionsThe commission may

1114
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:07,100
have but we will be holding a maximum

1115
00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:10,100
soundOf 60 DBAAt the property lines

1116
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:14,100
adjacent to residential uses. Obviously

1117
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:17,100
there's more noiseClose to Interstate

1118
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:21,100
81, and additionally based upon our

1119
00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:23,100
recent self-study, the anticipated

1120
00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:26,100
sound level property will be lower than

1121
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:29,601
the 60, we refrain fromVAWe will adjust

1122
00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:34,201
our age(INAUDIBLE), Fred Waters told us

1123
00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:40,100
that 120,000 gallons a day will not be

1124
00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:42,100
a problem to provide. And I will

1125
00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:45,601
briefly go through some of the

1126
00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:47,100
Revisions, some of these we have done

1127
00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:51,201
after a work session, where theWe work

1128
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:56,601
with us throughWet wipe your current

1129
00:56:58,100 --> 00:57:01,601
talk about some of them, propertyAnd

1130
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:09,201
then also we put in a restrictionOn

1131
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:13,100
when and how those generators can be

1132
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:17,801
tested. They do it to be tested, that's

1133
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:19,100
part of their maintenance program, but

1134
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:20,100
we made sure that will not have these

1135
00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:24,201
generators all firing up at once. There

1136
00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:28,100
will be a great conservator will you

1137
00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:32,201
know when tested.. On our nickel, as

1138
00:57:38,100 --> 00:57:39,100
Mr. Pearson mentioned, we will be doing

1139
00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:43,801
an openRate of McBeth Lane to the real

1140
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:45,100
world standards peer, also mentioned

1141
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:48,601
that we have withdrawnOur oil revocation

1142
00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:54,601
Pair going on toAbout outage issues,

1143
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:58,100
again to and

1144
00:58:02,100 --> 00:58:03,100
>>There primarily due to the grid in a

1145
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:06,100
noteThis PC is even said on the existing

1146
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:08,401
infrastructure and, Eight hours

1147
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:17,100
throughout his time, we think that's a

1148
00:58:17,100 --> 00:58:18,100
high number because as mentioned if

1149
00:58:18,100 --> 00:58:21,100
there was an outageIt is an outage due

1150
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:25,801
to the grid, not toA big storm blowing

1151
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:30,100
down distribution lines. Additionally

1152
00:58:30,100 --> 00:58:33,100
we areHolding theWritten decibel level

1153
00:58:39,100 --> 00:58:40,100
down to residential zones. We did some

1154
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:41,100
study, Mr. Chairman on containment, we

1155
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:42,100
are going of a 10 foot stucco wall

1156
00:58:42,100 --> 00:58:43,100
around all generators, we are designing

1157
00:58:43,100 --> 00:58:46,601
that toReduce low impact noiseAnd we

1158
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:50,100
can get into the exact engineering why

1159
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:54,201
there is a betterIt's better from a

1160
00:58:57,100 --> 00:58:59,401
standpoint ofLow-frequency noise and

1161
00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:06,100
Rob Miller can talk about that better

1162
00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:07,100
than I can. Generator testing, we have

1163
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:08,100
talked about it briefly, this is a side

1164
00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:09,100
that basically showsThere's 298

1165
00:59:09,100 --> 00:59:13,201
generators, They will need to be tested

1166
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:17,100
15 minutes per generator per weekAnd

1167
00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:21,601
basically if you haveBeing tested, if

1168
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:32,100
you have generators being tested at one

1169
00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:33,100
time you have a seven cycle testing

1170
00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:34,100
regime, each one for 15 minutes.We

1171
00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:37,601
don't believe the required testing can

1172
00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:39,100
be generated is going to produce an

1173
00:59:39,100 --> 00:59:40,100
impact in their only 15 minutesPer

1174
00:59:40,100 --> 00:59:44,201
generator per week.We did mention that

1175
00:59:46,100 --> 00:59:47,100
the citizens of the methylene did sign

1176
00:59:47,100 --> 00:59:52,401
the ones that are in.This is a view

1177
01:00:03,100 --> 01:00:04,100
shed analysis, fear driving southbound

1178
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:05,100
on 81, we wanted to pick up when will

1179
01:00:05,100 --> 01:00:06,100
this come in your view shed? Obviously

1180
01:00:06,100 --> 01:00:07,100
if your northbound you're probably not

1181
01:00:07,100 --> 01:00:10,601
going to see itUnless(INAUDIBLE), this

1182
01:00:11,100 --> 01:00:15,801
is on the southbound trip this is the

1183
01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:19,100
line of sight when our data center

1184
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:20,100
building will come into view. If you're

1185
01:00:20,100 --> 01:00:21,100
driving south the biggest building you

1186
01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:24,100
will see is the Amazon justiceCenter.

1187
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:26,100
As you go south the holdings will blend

1188
01:00:26,100 --> 01:00:30,201
more into the Western area. Then you

1189
01:00:31,100 --> 01:00:32,100
have the flying J that will be the most

1190
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:36,801
visible thing you can see.This is a

1191
01:00:37,100 --> 01:00:38,100
photo simulation taken on public road

1192
01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:41,601
right-of-wayBeth Lane and you might ask

1193
01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:45,100
why did I put this up there, you can

1194
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:49,201
see between two trees(INAUDIBLE) in the

1195
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:09,100
cul-de-sac of Jolene Drive, that thing

1196
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:10,100
above the house that looks like a

1197
01:01:10,100 --> 01:01:11,100
low-lying cloud, that's one of the data

1198
01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:13,100
center buildings.That is on the horizon

1199
01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:17,201
Above the house to the right there.

1200
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:26,100
With that, Mr. Shearman, what I would

1201
01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:27,100
like to do by your leave is turn the

1202
01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:28,100
podium over to Mr. Rob Miller

1203
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:29,100
polyphonic. We know that noise and

1204
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:30,100
sound is an issue here, with your leave,

1205
01:01:30,100 --> 01:01:31,100
We had Rob Miller of poly science to

1206
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:35,201
come upAnd he can tell you aboutWhat

1207
01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:38,100
the next few slides are. Rob Miller of

1208
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:40,100
poly science.

1209
01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:43,100
>>Good evening, sir.

1210
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:44,100
>>Good evening. I had the good fortune

1211
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:48,100
talking about sound levels, It can be

1212
01:01:48,100 --> 01:01:49,100
an out there subject but wanted to

1213
01:01:49,100 --> 01:01:50,100
bring some grounding in truth to what

1214
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:51,100
we are

1215
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:54,601
>>How long are they allowed? Three

1216
01:01:59,100 --> 01:02:00,100
minutes?

1217
01:02:00,100 --> 01:02:01,100
>>There the applicant, they get as much

1218
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:03,100
time as they want.

1219
01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:07,801
>>They get as much time as they want?

1220
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:09,100
>>Yes sir.

1221
01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:10,100
>>I am glad to be as long or short, I

1222
01:02:10,100 --> 01:02:12,100
know this is an important topic, and I

1223
01:02:12,100 --> 01:02:13,100
want to address it to the satisfaction

1224
01:02:13,100 --> 01:02:14,100
of everyone.

1225
01:02:14,100 --> 01:02:15,100
>>(INAUDIBLE)

1226
01:02:15,100 --> 01:02:17,100
>>Of course.I will lean this way so

1227
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:18,100
everyone could hear and I can hopefully

1228
01:02:18,100 --> 01:02:21,100
see.The ambient noise level study we

1229
01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:25,100
did in JanuaryWhich was a good month,

1230
01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:28,601
no snow, Hard ground conditions, No

1231
01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:33,100
leaves on trees, able to get good sound

1232
01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:36,100
level measurements aroundThe site. You

1233
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:39,100
will see 10 measurements across,Here

1234
01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:44,100
it's rotated, The North is on the

1235
01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:46,100
rights of the flying J question, you

1236
01:02:46,100 --> 01:02:50,201
can see isHere along towards them to

1237
01:02:53,100 --> 01:02:56,100
and M3. We are IAD one is further south

1238
01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:57,100
, this is the frontage road behind the

1239
01:02:57,100 --> 01:03:00,100
flying J. Where you can see the LE Q

1240
01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:04,801
level is at 66, 57 and M2 and 63At M1

1241
01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:14,100
closer to the Dealer. Elsewhere,.

1242
01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:30,100
Notably, a comment that was earlier,

1243
01:03:30,100 --> 01:03:34,100
Actually, we will just get there,Before

1244
01:03:34,100 --> 01:03:38,100
I get there, a fewTouchstones to think

1245
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:42,201
about here.The. We are looking to

1246
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:56,100
achieve nowhere near that. 60 DBA is the

1247
01:03:56,100 --> 01:03:59,100
Frederick County residential noise level

1248
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:00,100
that the site is not subject to but

1249
01:04:00,100 --> 01:04:03,100
might be usefulFor those with residents

1250
01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:07,201
this in Frederick County.When the EPA

1251
01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:12,100
developed this model noise ordinance

1252
01:04:12,100 --> 01:04:13,100
and said this is a good starting point

1253
01:04:13,100 --> 01:04:14,100
for communities to adopt for noise

1254
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:17,601
levels, They chose 55. It protects the

1255
01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:20,100
requisite use of people's homes,

1256
01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:22,100
enjoymentOf the surroundingsBarbecues

1257
01:04:24,100 --> 01:04:27,100
in such, the normal day-to-day use of

1258
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:29,401
the data centerSchilling only.

1259
01:04:44,100 --> 01:04:45,100
Depending where you are, 50 to 55 as we

1260
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:47,100
heard a little bit ago. AlreadyWe are

1261
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:50,100
approaching5 to 10 DVLighter than the

1262
01:04:52,100 --> 01:04:55,100
Frederick County noise ordinanceAnd to

1263
01:04:56,100 --> 01:04:57,100
use the decibel math we've been talking

1264
01:04:57,100 --> 01:05:00,601
about, that's about half as loud,

1265
01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:04,100
Towards half of as loud. It was 50 it

1266
01:05:04,100 --> 01:05:06,100
would be half as loud. For 50 50, 55,

1267
01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:08,100
somewhere in between.Hopefully that

1268
01:05:08,100 --> 01:05:12,201
makes sense.Peer we are under the

1269
01:05:19,100 --> 01:05:21,100
ResidentialFrederick County

1270
01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:30,100
(INAUDIBLE). This was our simulation of

1271
01:05:30,100 --> 01:05:33,100
vitae one noise in conjunction with the

1272
01:05:33,100 --> 01:05:34,100
site. There may be a better slide that

1273
01:05:34,100 --> 01:05:37,100
I addedHere later on, we will see if it

1274
01:05:37,100 --> 01:05:40,100
is here to show, But unfortunately

1275
01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:43,100
those numbers are small, I could come up

1276
01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:47,100
and read those to you, But they are in

1277
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:48,100
the low 50s. Can I yell and I will just

1278
01:05:48,100 --> 01:05:50,100
read out?

1279
01:05:52,100 --> 01:05:54,100
>>Hey, Rob

1280
01:05:54,100 --> 01:05:58,100
>>We are lives stream, you have to stay

1281
01:05:58,100 --> 01:05:59,100
in front of the mic so people watching

1282
01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:00,100
can hear.

1283
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:02,100
>>(INAUDIBLE)

1284
01:06:04,100 --> 01:06:06,100
>>Okay. So I will use my mouse, And

1285
01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:09,100
this is coming upRuebuck Lane, 5253,

1286
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:14,100
5354, 5251, 51, 52. In a long flying J

1287
01:06:22,100 --> 01:06:26,201
60, And I believe when it says instead

1288
01:06:31,100 --> 01:06:32,100
of being equal to the data center is

1289
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:33,100
equal to the flying J it's actually 10

1290
01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:37,201
dB louder, Quieter than the flying J,

1291
01:06:38,100 --> 01:06:40,100
So there's no addition happening, Is

1292
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:44,100
purely IED one noise that your hearing

1293
01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:46,100
at that location..

1294
01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:57,100
Looking at the data center itself,

1295
01:06:57,100 --> 01:06:59,100
similar numbers, 52, 52, 53, 51, 51,

1296
01:07:02,100 --> 01:07:05,100
50, 50, 52 down here.. When we have

1297
01:07:12,100 --> 01:07:15,601
Generator testing happening, You saw a

1298
01:07:17,100 --> 01:07:19,100
little spreadsheet earlier, what that

1299
01:07:19,100 --> 01:07:23,201
ends up being isHalf of one buildingFor

1300
01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:29,100
three buildings, so half of one building

1301
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:32,601
Is being testedThree times across the

1302
01:07:34,100 --> 01:07:36,100
site, and they can be spread out so that

1303
01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:38,100
they are not ganging up and one

1304
01:07:38,100 --> 01:07:41,100
neighborhood, one group of neighborsIs

1305
01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:44,100
hearing 3/2 data center no ways, it

1306
01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:47,601
spread around soThe distance works out

1307
01:07:49,100 --> 01:07:50,100
and you're not hearing and your only

1308
01:07:50,100 --> 01:07:51,100
hearing the closest testing happening

1309
01:07:51,100 --> 01:07:55,801
next to you. In this case, we choseThis

1310
01:07:57,100 --> 01:08:00,100
property line along RuebuckAnd these

1311
01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:03,100
generators are being tested here, this

1312
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:05,100
third building south, And what you will

1313
01:08:05,100 --> 01:08:08,100
see is that this levelExpanding from

1314
01:08:08,100 --> 01:08:11,601
the buildingIs between 55 and 60 as it

1315
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:15,100
crosses over this residential property

1316
01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:19,100
line.So for the testing scenario of 1/2

1317
01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:21,100
building being tested near you, We

1318
01:08:21,100 --> 01:08:24,100
still remain under theResidential noise

1319
01:08:25,100 --> 01:08:28,601
ordinanceAnd in the proper in general

1320
01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:34,100
is to maintain 60, But that is, again,

1321
01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:38,100
assuming that we are in emergency mode.

1322
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:42,801
This is testing mode.And I will leave

1323
01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:47,100
it there.

1324
01:08:56,100 --> 01:08:57,100
>>The last few slides are examples of

1325
01:08:57,100 --> 01:08:58,100
renderings, the design guidelines

1326
01:08:58,100 --> 01:09:01,100
basically calling forUse of components,

1327
01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:04,100
These are not proper architectural but

1328
01:09:04,100 --> 01:09:06,100
this is what they would look likeBy use

1329
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:08,100
of the design elementsIn the proper

1330
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:10,100
spiritWith fenestration, WindowsAndNote

1331
01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:20,100
thatAccounting I came from I've seen

1332
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:22,401
differentIterations of data centers,

1333
01:09:25,100 --> 01:09:27,401
first generation look likeWarehouses

1334
01:09:30,100 --> 01:09:31,100
with no windows, no fenestration. The

1335
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:33,100
second generation looked a little better

1336
01:09:33,100 --> 01:09:35,100
, The new ones being built now haveMore

1337
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:38,100
of a curb appeal, Use of glass, good

1338
01:09:38,100 --> 01:09:40,100
lightingIn different colors.

1339
01:09:49,100 --> 01:09:50,100
With that, that's a rundown of our

1340
01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:51,100
aerial, that, Mr. Chairman, I would be

1341
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:54,100
glad to answer any questionsOr have any

1342
01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:55,100
members of the government team ask any

1343
01:09:55,100 --> 01:09:56,100
questions that the Commissioner may

1344
01:09:56,100 --> 01:09:57,100
have.With that, yelled back.

1345
01:09:57,100 --> 01:10:01,100
>>Thank you. Any questions to my right?

1346
01:10:01,100 --> 01:10:03,100
Mr. Crane?

1347
01:10:04,100 --> 01:10:06,100
>>I've got two questions for you, one is

1348
01:10:06,100 --> 01:10:09,601
if there are separate companies, Let's

1349
01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:12,100
say there's 10 separate companies, one

1350
01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:16,201
at eachData center, How are they going

1351
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:18,100
to coordinate the testing of their

1352
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:21,100
generators? If there's 288His company

1353
01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:32,100
ABC going to coordinate with XYZ? Hey,

1354
01:10:32,100 --> 01:10:33,100
I'll fire mine up this day, you fire

1355
01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:37,801
your ears, how is that going to work?

1356
01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:39,100
>>If these are landowners that are

1357
01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:41,100
lessees, let's say, part of their lease

1358
01:10:41,100 --> 01:10:42,100
would be conformance with these

1359
01:10:42,100 --> 01:10:43,100
products.So they're going up to work it

1360
01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:48,100
out, They can't fire it all at once and

1361
01:10:48,100 --> 01:10:49,100
then will be a violation of their lease

1362
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:53,100
if they do.We will also have an

1363
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:56,100
operations manual that will dictateWhen

1364
01:10:58,100 --> 01:10:59,100
pursuant to each lease you can test

1365
01:10:59,100 --> 01:11:02,100
your generators.And the mechanisms that

1366
01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:06,801
we will have is the owner, If anyone

1367
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:08,100
reaches those lease terms, just like

1368
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:10,100
any commercial tenant who violates the

1369
01:11:10,100 --> 01:11:11,100
terms of his lease.

1370
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:15,201
>>My second question, I am a pretty

1371
01:11:19,100 --> 01:11:20,100
simple guy, pretty simple question. Do

1372
01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:21,100
you live in Clearbrook?

1373
01:11:21,100 --> 01:11:22,100
>>I'm sorry?

1374
01:11:22,100 --> 01:11:23,100
>>Do you live in Clearbrook?

1375
01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:28,401
>>I do not, sir, I don't live there yet.

1376
01:11:32,100 --> 01:11:33,100
>>If you did, if you built a home there

1377
01:11:33,100 --> 01:11:34,100
25 years ago and you enjoy the ambience

1378
01:11:34,100 --> 01:11:37,100
of that neighborhood, Would you like a

1379
01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:40,601
data center built in your backyard?

1380
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:44,100
>>That's a fair question, I bought a

1381
01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:46,100
houseAnd I look at the conference of

1382
01:11:46,100 --> 01:11:49,100
planAnd I looked atWhat that

1383
01:11:54,100 --> 01:11:55,100
comprehensive plan will allow in terms

1384
01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:58,100
of zoning. Also look to seeWe are the

1385
01:11:58,100 --> 01:11:59,100
infrastructure, so to answer your

1386
01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:03,201
question, I would not have a problem,

1387
01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:08,100
My opinion, I know that you might not,

1388
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:11,601
but I thinkThose decisions of land-use

1389
01:12:17,100 --> 01:12:18,100
primarily are making the hopper into

1390
01:12:18,100 --> 01:12:19,100
plan. It doesn't say residential and

1391
01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:23,100
its property.As a matter of fact, the

1392
01:12:23,100 --> 01:12:24,100
planning commission, put in an

1393
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:27,601
application for the same property and

1394
01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:32,100
recommend approval of this property be

1395
01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:33,100
rezoned within one zoning district that

1396
01:12:33,100 --> 01:12:34,100
would allow for warehouses and

1397
01:12:34,100 --> 01:12:35,100
logistics, operations, much more truck

1398
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:36,100
traffic. That was an application before

1399
01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:37,100
this planning commission about two

1400
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:38,100
years agoAnd they recommended approval

1401
01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:40,100
of it.

1402
01:12:41,100 --> 01:12:42,100
>>Thank you, sir.

1403
01:12:42,100 --> 01:12:45,601
>>Any other questions?To my left?

1404
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:51,100
>>I have a question,Doing some reading

1405
01:12:51,100 --> 01:12:55,100
and research on noise, For the noise

1406
01:12:55,100 --> 01:12:56,100
gentlemen, can you tell me about last

1407
01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:58,100
loaded vinyl and whether it was going

1408
01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:02,100
to be, whether it would have any

1409
01:13:02,100 --> 01:13:03,100
options to reduce low-level noise in

1410
01:13:03,100 --> 01:13:05,100
your buildings?

1411
01:13:07,100 --> 01:13:10,601
>>Mass loaded vinyl is, For 1/8 inch

1412
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:15,601
pieceOf vinyl, it weighs about 1 pound

1413
01:13:19,100 --> 01:13:20,100
per square foot, it can come to pounds

1414
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:23,100
per square foot, I don't wishThe handy

1415
01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:27,201
man to deal with2 pounds per square

1416
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:29,100
foot, it's very difficult. It is

1417
01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:32,601
frequently used to wrap ducksWhen they

1418
01:13:37,100 --> 01:13:38,100
are coming into the building because

1419
01:13:38,100 --> 01:13:39,100
there's noise coming off the rooftop

1420
01:13:39,100 --> 01:13:40,100
unit, something like that, it has about

1421
01:13:40,100 --> 01:13:43,601
the benefit ofDepending how it's used 6

1422
01:13:44,100 --> 01:13:48,100
to 10 dB of improvement, So it is

1423
01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:51,100
frequently usedAs a compressor wrapFor

1424
01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:54,100
chillers and you saw in the proper that

1425
01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:56,401
there areMitigation techniques that

1426
01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:02,100
must be included in chillers, And so I

1427
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:04,100
suspect that would be one of the

1428
01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:05,100
components that the manufacturers

1429
01:14:05,100 --> 01:14:08,100
alreadyDoingFor that type of equipment.

1430
01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:12,601
Is there a specific? No, okay.

1431
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:17,100
>>Hang on. I have a question. Related

1432
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:19,100
to sound. We're talking about decibels,

1433
01:14:19,100 --> 01:14:22,601
But we don't believeIt addresses a

1434
01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:24,100
whole lot of frequency and from what I

1435
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:27,100
understand a low level frequency that

1436
01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:29,100
causes a lot of these health issuesAnd

1437
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:32,100
potential of the things that we are

1438
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:36,201
just not really talking about. And I

1439
01:14:37,100 --> 01:14:38,100
know part of your study I think you did

1440
01:14:38,100 --> 01:14:39,100
address frequency, but it was higher,

1441
01:14:39,100 --> 01:14:40,100
wasMaybe 65 Hz?

1442
01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:44,201
>>We looked at 63, which isThe date of

1443
01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:49,100
the manufacturer provided. Let me

1444
01:14:49,100 --> 01:14:52,100
discuss that a little bit. We usedThe

1445
01:14:52,100 --> 01:14:55,100
ANC standard, ANC is a majorUS governing

1446
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:58,100
body that brings professionals together

1447
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:04,201
To decide on what should be standards,

1448
01:15:07,100 --> 01:15:08,100
And it was done in conjunction with our

1449
01:15:08,100 --> 01:15:09,100
professional acoustical Society of

1450
01:15:09,100 --> 01:15:14,401
America.In terms of the noise there is a

1451
01:15:16,100 --> 01:15:17,100
In appendix, and annex to that standard

1452
01:15:17,100 --> 01:15:20,100
that addresses specifically.And it

1453
01:15:22,100 --> 01:15:23,100
gives just like I sort of listed,

1454
01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:25,100
frequency, decibel levelsThat are

1455
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:28,100
ordinances, there are decibel levels

1456
01:15:30,100 --> 01:15:33,601
That contribute toA level that people

1457
01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:41,100
don't like, all right, I'm going toUse

1458
01:15:41,100 --> 01:15:45,100
in their home. What we did, we took the

1459
01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:48,601
generators and we took the chillersAnd

1460
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:52,601
The testing scenario for the generator.

1461
01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:54,100
We modeled it similar to what you saw

1462
01:15:54,100 --> 01:15:56,100
on the screenAnd for the nearest

1463
01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:58,401
residences, 70 dBIs unweighted, soYou

1464
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:06,601
get thisGoing on, the preferred decibel

1465
01:16:09,100 --> 01:16:10,100
level at that 63 Hz, how much of that

1466
01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:13,601
comes across property line?We foundWe

1467
01:16:16,100 --> 01:16:19,601
stayed below 70 dBForThe type II level

1468
01:16:20,100 --> 01:16:23,100
IINoise enclosure for the generator,

1469
01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:28,100
Which what that means is thatThe

1470
01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:30,100
standard body found was meant for homes

1471
01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:32,401
ofStandard typical wood frame

1472
01:16:34,100 --> 01:16:37,601
construction with, No storm windows, no

1473
01:16:43,100 --> 01:16:47,201
race and read, anything like that. This

1474
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:50,100
Decibel level and superior maintains a

1475
01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:54,100
piece of quiet peace and quiet. It's

1476
01:16:54,100 --> 01:16:55,100
the NT standard. We analyze it and so

1477
01:16:55,100 --> 01:16:57,401
we are really happy.

1478
01:17:06,100 --> 01:17:07,100
>>(INAUDIBLE)

1479
01:17:07,100 --> 01:17:08,100
>>S 12, I have it on my phone. Thanks

1480
01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:09,100
time someone calls me up I will give it

1481
01:17:09,100 --> 01:17:13,100
to you.We stay the 70 dB stays outside

1482
01:17:13,100 --> 01:17:16,601
the propertyAnd what's important to know

1483
01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:21,100
Is that

1484
01:17:21,100 --> 01:17:25,100
>>Rob, you need to address the planning

1485
01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:26,100
commission, sir.

1486
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:29,601
>>Thank you.So the 70 dB unweighted 63

1487
01:17:30,100 --> 01:17:32,100
Hz stays off the property lineWith the

1488
01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:34,401
level IIGenerator enclosureIn the

1489
01:17:36,100 --> 01:17:38,100
testing scenario.

1490
01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:40,100
>>Thank you.

1491
01:17:40,100 --> 01:17:44,100
>>Ag just going with the peer review

1492
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:47,100
and other charactersLower than 63 Hz,

1493
01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:51,100
is that something we could get results

1494
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:54,100
onJust to make sure we may be above and

1495
01:17:54,100 --> 01:17:58,201
beyond this standard at least we know

1496
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:00,100
we are protecting everybody above and

1497
01:18:00,100 --> 01:18:02,100
beyondThe standard?

1498
01:18:04,100 --> 01:18:05,100
>>In terms of the frequency that we are

1499
01:18:05,100 --> 01:18:07,401
able toStudy and understand,

1500
01:18:11,100 --> 01:18:12,100
manufacturers for both HVAC equipment,

1501
01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:14,100
the chillers and the generators, Their

1502
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:17,601
lowest level, their lowest octave band

1503
01:18:18,100 --> 01:18:21,601
frequency band slice that they report

1504
01:18:23,100 --> 01:18:24,100
is 63 Hz optic man peer can so we are

1505
01:18:24,100 --> 01:18:25,100
unable to investigate anything lower

1506
01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:29,201
than that, But we investigated what the

1507
01:18:30,100 --> 01:18:32,401
manufacturers provide. Typically,The

1508
01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:35,100
low-frequencyHas gotten awfullyUpset

1509
01:18:44,100 --> 01:18:46,100
has contributed to the windmills, Low

1510
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:49,601
blade counts,AndI am learning about

1511
01:18:51,100 --> 01:18:53,100
natural gas and flaring is also

1512
01:18:53,100 --> 01:18:56,601
low-frequency source. I've not seen any

1513
01:18:57,100 --> 01:18:59,100
indication of diesel generatorsOr

1514
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:01,401
particularly chillers, They operate

1515
01:19:03,100 --> 01:19:04,100
much higher than that.

1516
01:19:04,100 --> 01:19:06,100
>>Thank you.

1517
01:19:07,100 --> 01:19:08,100
>>Thank you. Any other questions?

1518
01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:09,100
>>I had another question, I know in the

1519
01:19:09,100 --> 01:19:13,201
lastMeeting we had we talked about the

1520
01:19:16,100 --> 01:19:17,100
water usage at 120,000, I think those

1521
01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:20,601
120,000 gallons, I think we had a

1522
01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:24,100
description of what the 20,000 was four

1523
01:19:24,100 --> 01:19:25,100
and I think Mr. Stowe brought up the

1524
01:19:25,100 --> 01:19:26,100
comment, what's the other hundred

1525
01:19:26,100 --> 01:19:29,601
thousand and theIf anybody wants to

1526
01:19:36,100 --> 01:19:37,100
talk about where that hundred thousand

1527
01:19:37,100 --> 01:19:38,100
dollars going to be used.

1528
01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:39,100
>>It will be used for cooling purposes.

1529
01:19:39,100 --> 01:19:40,100
Let me yield to someone who can answer

1530
01:19:40,100 --> 01:19:44,201
that question better.This is John not.

1531
01:19:51,100 --> 01:19:52,100
>>Okay, so just so I'm clear on the

1532
01:19:52,100 --> 01:19:54,100
question, you would ask about the 20,000

1533
01:19:54,100 --> 01:19:57,100
and where does the other $100,000

1534
01:19:57,100 --> 01:20:01,100
100,000 come from? As we stated in the

1535
01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:02,100
proffers, we proffered to a number of

1536
01:20:02,100 --> 01:20:05,100
different cooling systemsWhich are use

1537
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:06,100
a low amount of water, air cooled,

1538
01:20:06,100 --> 01:20:09,601
closed loop, Direct liquid chip and

1539
01:20:10,100 --> 01:20:13,100
immersion. Those are low useWater

1540
01:20:16,100 --> 01:20:17,100
technologies. We collect the amount of

1541
01:20:17,100 --> 01:20:20,601
water that we under the those

1542
01:20:21,100 --> 01:20:22,100
technology scenarios to be less than

1543
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:23,100
100,000 gallons per day.We believe it

1544
01:20:23,100 --> 01:20:26,100
is very importantAfter having spoken

1545
01:20:28,100 --> 01:20:29,100
with a number of users who are data

1546
01:20:29,100 --> 01:20:31,401
center operatorsTo maintain some

1547
01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:34,100
flexibility, some flexibilityWith the

1548
01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:38,801
amount of waterThat we are asking to use

1549
01:20:40,100 --> 01:20:41,100
. We have kept it at 120,000, we have

1550
01:20:41,100 --> 01:20:43,401
confirmedWith director Frederick water

1551
01:20:45,100 --> 01:20:46,100
that that amount of water is currently

1552
01:20:46,100 --> 01:20:48,100
available todayWith the water system

1553
01:20:48,100 --> 01:20:51,601
and the sewer system. Are the

1554
01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:03,100
technologies going to use three years

1555
01:21:03,100 --> 01:21:04,100
from now to build these buildings? Are

1556
01:21:04,100 --> 01:21:05,100
they going to use that hundred and

1557
01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:06,100
$20,000? No. Is there another

1558
01:21:06,100 --> 01:21:09,100
technology being developedThat none of

1559
01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:12,100
us know about that might use a little

1560
01:21:12,100 --> 01:21:13,100
more water and probably is a better

1561
01:21:13,100 --> 01:21:14,100
system than the ones that currently

1562
01:21:14,100 --> 01:21:15,100
exist? Could be. We're just asking for

1563
01:21:15,100 --> 01:21:16,100
some flexibility.

1564
01:21:16,100 --> 01:21:18,100
>>Okay.

1565
01:21:21,100 --> 01:21:22,100
>>Actually, I had a little comment, I

1566
01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:23,100
know when we talked aboutThis CUP

1567
01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:25,401
processMr. Pearson expressed concern

1568
01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:29,100
aboutBeing able to enforce the 120,000

1569
01:21:30,100 --> 01:21:34,201
gallons limitSo, I reached out to our

1570
01:21:38,100 --> 01:21:40,100
outside attorneys in Richmond and we

1571
01:21:40,100 --> 01:21:43,100
are going to come up with a policy toOr

1572
01:21:43,100 --> 01:21:47,201
a contract to addressAnd It at 120 with

1573
01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:50,100
penalties or the ability to shut off to

1574
01:21:50,100 --> 01:21:53,100
exceed that over a period of time.

1575
01:21:53,100 --> 01:21:56,100
That's still in development(INAUDIBLE)

1576
01:22:05,100 --> 01:22:06,100
going into the wastewater system with

1577
01:22:06,100 --> 01:22:07,100
those 5% of its capacity. We did not

1578
01:22:07,100 --> 01:22:10,601
have a policyRegarding a large water

1579
01:22:12,100 --> 01:22:13,100
user that basically evaporated all the

1580
01:22:13,100 --> 01:22:14,100
water off and it did make it to the

1581
01:22:14,100 --> 01:22:18,100
sewer system.Because of the comments we

1582
01:22:18,100 --> 01:22:22,100
have had, I reached out to Eric and our

1583
01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:23,100
outside counseling we are going to come

1584
01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:26,100
up with something so when something is

1585
01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:27,100
in a proper statement I think this

1586
01:22:27,100 --> 01:22:28,100
board can feel that Frederick Waterton

1587
01:22:28,100 --> 01:22:29,100
basically enforce thatProperly.

1588
01:22:29,100 --> 01:22:32,601
>>We will commit, weOur custom to

1589
01:22:34,100 --> 01:22:36,401
entering developers agreements with

1590
01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:41,100
different governing bodies.

1591
01:22:41,100 --> 01:22:42,100
>>That's why say want to make sure you

1592
01:22:42,100 --> 01:22:43,100
guys are comfortable with your number,

1593
01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:49,100
I'm sure we will work at it, but of the

1594
01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:54,100
>>You will have to apply the water with

1595
01:22:54,100 --> 01:22:57,100
you andPay for the amount of gallons

1596
01:22:57,100 --> 01:23:01,100
were used at the time. We know how many

1597
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:02,100
gallons it will be at that time.

1598
01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:03,100
>>Thank you.

1599
01:23:03,100 --> 01:23:06,100
>>I have a question. Of that 100,000

1600
01:23:06,100 --> 01:23:09,601
gallons of water, 100,000 gallons go in

1601
01:23:11,100 --> 01:23:14,100
, It's 100,000 come out?If it's 100%

1602
01:23:20,100 --> 01:23:21,100
evaporated then nothing comes out. What

1603
01:23:21,100 --> 01:23:22,100
comes out?

1604
01:23:22,100 --> 01:23:23,100
>>We are not were using evaporative

1605
01:23:23,100 --> 01:23:26,601
systems. You can pick a gallon, 1

1606
01:23:27,100 --> 01:23:28,100
gallon a day, 10 gallons a day, hundred

1607
01:23:28,100 --> 01:23:29,100
thousand gallons a day, we need to take

1608
01:23:29,100 --> 01:23:30,100
that in which is available today,It's

1609
01:23:30,100 --> 01:23:34,100
likely that most of that water would

1610
01:23:34,100 --> 01:23:35,100
also come out into the sewer system

1611
01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:38,100
which is also available today.

1612
01:23:39,100 --> 01:23:42,100
>>In the water that comes out, What

1613
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:45,601
condition is that in?What contaminants

1614
01:23:52,100 --> 01:23:53,100
are in there?

1615
01:23:53,100 --> 01:23:54,100
>>It's clean water. We cannot send

1616
01:23:54,100 --> 01:23:55,100
anything into the sewer systemThat

1617
01:23:55,100 --> 01:23:56,100
Frederick water does not permit us to

1618
01:23:56,100 --> 01:23:59,100
send into the sewer system.

1619
01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:01,100
>>Okay, thank you.

1620
01:24:02,100 --> 01:24:04,100
>>No questions?

1621
01:24:05,100 --> 01:24:08,100
>>Minus not on water.The area that is

1622
01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:13,100
in a flood zone, I think why it had

1623
01:24:13,100 --> 01:24:14,100
brought out how would we handle the berm

1624
01:24:14,100 --> 01:24:18,100
in that areaOf flood zone if you can't

1625
01:24:18,100 --> 01:24:22,100
have a berm because of the flood zone?

1626
01:24:22,100 --> 01:24:24,100
>>I don't, I'm not an engineer, but

1627
01:24:24,100 --> 01:24:27,601
Putting inBerms and floodplain I think

1628
01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:32,100
we need the permitting requirement,

1629
01:24:36,100 --> 01:24:37,100
It's a minor or major floodplain,

1630
01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:38,100
that's a good engineering question,

1631
01:24:38,100 --> 01:24:39,100
generally you don't want to put in any

1632
01:24:39,100 --> 01:24:42,100
obstructionsIn a floodplain, So it have

1633
01:24:42,100 --> 01:24:46,201
to do that burden with her Whatever

1634
01:24:48,100 --> 01:24:49,100
County engineering says, I think FEMA

1635
01:24:49,100 --> 01:24:51,100
has a problemWith doing things that

1636
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:55,100
will interfereIn a berm would do that.

1637
01:24:55,100 --> 01:24:58,601
Can we haveWith some drainage structure

1638
01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:03,100
boots I'm not an engineer, I don't

1639
01:25:03,100 --> 01:25:07,100
really know.I know you can't fill in

1640
01:25:07,100 --> 01:25:08,100
the floodplain, that will get you in

1641
01:25:08,100 --> 01:25:10,100
trouble.

1642
01:25:10,100 --> 01:25:13,100
>>I have one question for you,I got

1643
01:25:13,100 --> 01:25:17,100
this question today in an emailAnd I

1644
01:25:17,100 --> 01:25:18,100
had no idea what the answer was. There

1645
01:25:18,100 --> 01:25:20,100
is a suitThat's been filed against the

1646
01:25:20,100 --> 01:25:23,601
folksAgainst the substation that will be

1647
01:25:32,100 --> 01:25:33,100
Providing your power. If the plaintiffs

1648
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:34,100
prevail, what will that mean?

1649
01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:35,100
>>I don't know about that lawsuit but I

1650
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:36,100
think it's challenging the approval of

1651
01:25:36,100 --> 01:25:37,100
the substationThat the plan commission

1652
01:25:37,100 --> 01:25:40,601
approved.I really can't speculate since

1653
01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:46,100
I am not a party to that litigation, but

1654
01:25:46,100 --> 01:25:50,801
The next of the, Would that present an

1655
01:25:52,100 --> 01:25:53,100
issue with this data center? The answer

1656
01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:55,100
is clearly yes.You probably knew the

1657
01:25:55,100 --> 01:25:58,100
answer before you ask it.

1658
01:25:58,100 --> 01:26:01,100
>>I am not a lawyer either, sir.

1659
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:04,601
>>Thank you for this opportunity,Let's

1660
01:26:06,100 --> 01:26:07,100
go back and hear from the public.

1661
01:26:07,100 --> 01:26:08,100
>>With that, open the public hearing,

1662
01:26:08,100 --> 01:26:11,601
Again, this is public hearingAnd the

1663
01:26:12,100 --> 01:26:13,100
moment we have been waiting for us to

1664
01:26:13,100 --> 01:26:14,100
hear from you. And that's important for

1665
01:26:14,100 --> 01:26:17,100
us. We do want to practice decorum, we

1666
01:26:17,100 --> 01:26:20,100
do want to keep orderlyAnd we want to

1667
01:26:20,100 --> 01:26:23,601
move things along rapidly, we have 47

1668
01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:26,100
people that signed up to speak and

1669
01:26:26,100 --> 01:26:27,100
that's fine, we would love to hear from

1670
01:26:27,100 --> 01:26:28,100
all of you. We know a lot of the

1671
01:26:28,100 --> 01:26:31,100
concerns based on the emails you sent us

1672
01:26:31,100 --> 01:26:32,100
, we read those and many of them I get

1673
01:26:32,100 --> 01:26:34,100
to respond to, which I'm fine doing,

1674
01:26:34,100 --> 01:26:38,100
but with that we want to get into this

1675
01:26:38,100 --> 01:26:39,100
is please limit clapping, hooping, that

1676
01:26:39,100 --> 01:26:43,201
sort of thingAnd off we go, Mr.

1677
01:26:46,100 --> 01:26:47,100
Pearson.

1678
01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:48,100
>>Mr. Chairman, first speaker is Vicki

1679
01:26:48,100 --> 01:26:49,100
Michael's followed by J Martz.

1680
01:26:49,100 --> 01:26:51,100
>>J, if you can come up and get in

1681
01:26:51,100 --> 01:26:54,601
line, please, sir?It evening, ma'am.

1682
01:26:58,100 --> 01:26:59,100
REMICADE evening. Mr. Chairman, members

1683
01:26:59,100 --> 01:27:00,100
of the board, my name is Vicki

1684
01:27:00,100 --> 01:27:01,100
Michaels, and I live in the stoneWall

1685
01:27:01,100 --> 01:27:02,100
district. The best argument for not

1686
01:27:02,100 --> 01:27:05,100
rezoning rural land as our very own

1687
01:27:05,100 --> 01:27:07,401
comprehensive plan. Chapter 2 rural

1688
01:27:08,100 --> 01:27:11,100
areas. Frederick County's rural areas

1689
01:27:13,100 --> 01:27:15,100
provide places for agriculture,

1690
01:27:15,100 --> 01:27:17,401
forestry, protection, And preservation

1691
01:27:19,100 --> 01:27:22,601
of natural resources and tourism.The

1692
01:27:23,100 --> 01:27:26,100
rural areas best exhibit the nature,

1693
01:27:26,100 --> 01:27:28,100
beauty, view sheds and tranquility for

1694
01:27:28,100 --> 01:27:30,100
which Frederick County is known.

1695
01:27:30,100 --> 01:27:32,100
Agriculture, forestry, conservation,

1696
01:27:36,100 --> 01:27:37,100
Play an important role in the

1697
01:27:37,100 --> 01:27:38,100
environment, heritage and economy of

1698
01:27:38,100 --> 01:27:41,601
Frederick County. The rural areas of

1699
01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:43,100
the county provide benefits to the

1700
01:27:43,100 --> 01:27:46,100
communityIn many ways. Preserving and

1701
01:27:47,100 --> 01:27:48,100
protecting the rural areas the

1702
01:27:48,100 --> 01:27:51,100
Frederick CountyIs importantNot only to

1703
01:27:55,100 --> 01:27:56,100
ensure the economic viability of

1704
01:27:56,100 --> 01:27:57,100
agriculture and forest to operators but

1705
01:27:57,100 --> 01:28:00,601
to guarantee these lands are present

1706
01:28:02,100 --> 01:28:03,100
for use and enjoyment of future

1707
01:28:03,100 --> 01:28:05,401
generations.Please honor our

1708
01:28:10,100 --> 01:28:11,100
comprehensive plan and vote no. Don't

1709
01:28:11,100 --> 01:28:14,100
give away 220 acres of rural land. We

1710
01:28:14,100 --> 01:28:15,100
have all asked about data centers

1711
01:28:15,100 --> 01:28:18,100
causing our electric bills to go up.

1712
01:28:18,100 --> 01:28:19,100
There is talking about putting in

1713
01:28:19,100 --> 01:28:22,601
battery storage for these. Because of

1714
01:28:25,100 --> 01:28:26,100
the public utility regulation policy

1715
01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:28,100
act of 1978, our electric companies

1716
01:28:28,100 --> 01:28:32,201
will be requiredTo buy power from the

1717
01:28:34,100 --> 01:28:35,100
battery storage sites whether they need

1718
01:28:35,100 --> 01:28:37,100
it or not. So, yes, our bills will go

1719
01:28:37,100 --> 01:28:39,100
up.

1720
01:28:43,100 --> 01:28:45,100
I had intended to end it here, but today

1721
01:28:45,100 --> 01:28:48,601
the Winchester Star survey came out.

1722
01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:53,100
2901 surveys forThe tester in Frederick

1723
01:28:53,100 --> 01:28:56,100
County, 60% of those people indicated

1724
01:28:56,100 --> 01:28:58,401
being informedAnd 90% of those

1725
01:29:00,100 --> 01:29:02,100
respondents would not be in favor ofA

1726
01:29:02,100 --> 01:29:05,100
data center. 96 were concerned about

1727
01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:08,601
the impact on environment and utilities

1728
01:29:09,100 --> 01:29:12,601
. 70%Of the health risk and noiseAnd,

1729
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,100
sadly, 60% of those respondents did not

1730
01:29:14,100 --> 01:29:17,100
trust the representatives to honor what

1731
01:29:17,100 --> 01:29:18,100
their constituents want.

1732
01:29:18,100 --> 01:29:20,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

1733
01:29:34,100 --> 01:29:35,100
>>Folks, let her speak.

1734
01:29:35,100 --> 01:29:36,100
>>Today is a promise for tomorrow. You

1735
01:29:36,100 --> 01:29:37,100
need to do the hard things, you need to

1736
01:29:37,100 --> 01:29:38,100
save our rural land and you need to

1737
01:29:38,100 --> 01:29:39,100
vote no. Thank you.

1738
01:29:39,100 --> 01:29:40,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

1739
01:29:40,100 --> 01:29:42,100
>>Thank you.

1740
01:29:43,100 --> 01:29:46,601
>>J Martz followed by Jodi Zeiss.

1741
01:29:47,100 --> 01:29:48,100
>>Hey, good evening, Chairman Stowe,

1742
01:29:48,100 --> 01:29:50,100
members of the commissionI am Jay

1743
01:29:50,100 --> 01:29:53,100
March, Frederick County taxpayer and

1744
01:29:54,100 --> 01:29:55,100
resident of Gainsborough. I am here to

1745
01:29:55,100 --> 01:29:57,100
speak in opposition to zero 426, the

1746
01:29:57,100 --> 01:30:00,601
VirginiaTechnology Park. I am here to

1747
01:30:01,100 --> 01:30:05,201
pose any further rezoning of our county

1748
01:30:07,100 --> 01:30:08,100
farmland. I greatly oppose the action

1749
01:30:08,100 --> 01:30:11,100
that you took on Madison to 77. You are

1750
01:30:11,100 --> 01:30:12,100
destroying the character of the county

1751
01:30:12,100 --> 01:30:16,100
with these votes on rezoning our farms.

1752
01:30:16,100 --> 01:30:19,100
Joe, Vaughn, you are pretty good friends

1753
01:30:19,100 --> 01:30:23,801
Dear John Lamanna, We go way way back.

1754
01:30:27,100 --> 01:30:28,100
Charles, I've gotten to know you from

1755
01:30:28,100 --> 01:30:32,801
the patriots. Tim, we have had back and

1756
01:30:33,100 --> 01:30:34,100
forth, we speak cordially, I think it's

1757
01:30:34,100 --> 01:30:37,100
great. Al, thanks for coming to the

1758
01:30:37,100 --> 01:30:40,100
Memorial day celebration, your redbud

1759
01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:42,100
town halls are great, Mike, I love it.

1760
01:30:42,100 --> 01:30:46,801
Randy, it's good to see you tonight. I

1761
01:30:47,100 --> 01:30:48,100
mention first names, I mentioned first

1762
01:30:48,100 --> 01:30:49,100
names like this because Frederick

1763
01:30:49,100 --> 01:30:50,100
County has a great small town feel. A

1764
01:30:50,100 --> 01:30:54,201
place where first names are used often.

1765
01:30:58,100 --> 01:30:59,100
A community, is the community. I'm not

1766
01:30:59,100 --> 01:31:00,100
just a resident, I am a member of this

1767
01:31:00,100 --> 01:31:01,100
community and I greatly enjoy that, and

1768
01:31:01,100 --> 01:31:05,801
I really want to preserve that.I pushed

1769
01:31:07,100 --> 01:31:08,100
hard, very hard for all my family to

1770
01:31:08,100 --> 01:31:09,100
live here in the northern Shenandoah

1771
01:31:09,100 --> 01:31:10,100
Valley, to stay away from Fairfax and I

1772
01:31:10,100 --> 01:31:13,100
succeeded. TodayI had a yard full of

1773
01:31:13,100 --> 01:31:16,100
grandkids, helping me trim bushes,

1774
01:31:17,100 --> 01:31:18,100
wildflowers, cut the grass, great time.

1775
01:31:18,100 --> 01:31:22,201
My neighborI just cut some, Cut his

1776
01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:26,100
pastor Downey raked it up, I loaded

1777
01:31:26,100 --> 01:31:27,100
them up in the pickup truck and I drove

1778
01:31:27,100 --> 01:31:28,100
around and I saidHe's got it all raked

1779
01:31:28,100 --> 01:31:30,100
up, he will come back and feed his

1780
01:31:30,100 --> 01:31:34,100
cattle over the winter.Do you think I

1781
01:31:34,100 --> 01:31:35,100
would load up my grandkids and go to

1782
01:31:35,100 --> 01:31:36,100
the data center?

1783
01:31:36,100 --> 01:31:38,100
[LAUGHING]

1784
01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:42,100
Would that be something I would do in

1785
01:31:42,100 --> 01:31:45,100
this community? I don't think so.I am

1786
01:31:45,100 --> 01:31:48,100
not here to talk about megawatts of

1787
01:31:48,100 --> 01:31:51,601
Power, gallons of water, noise, View

1788
01:31:53,100 --> 01:31:54,100
shed pollution, no. I believe that your

1789
01:31:54,100 --> 01:31:57,100
main purpose hereIs to promoteThe

1790
01:32:03,100 --> 01:32:05,100
health, safety, and general welfare of

1791
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:09,100
the public. Okay? This action is in the

1792
01:32:09,100 --> 01:32:10,100
wrong direction. So please vote no.

1793
01:32:10,100 --> 01:32:11,100
Thank you.

1794
01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:13,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

1795
01:32:24,100 --> 01:32:25,100
>>Jody Zeiss followed by Elizabeth

1796
01:32:25,100 --> 01:32:26,100
Taylor.

1797
01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:27,100
>>Thank you for serving, my name is

1798
01:32:27,100 --> 01:32:28,100
Doctor Jodi's eyes gain borough

1799
01:32:28,100 --> 01:32:31,100
district, there's literally no data

1800
01:32:32,100 --> 01:32:33,100
anywhere that I've researched stating

1801
01:32:33,100 --> 01:32:34,100
that a data center can use hundred

1802
01:32:34,100 --> 01:32:35,100
25,000 gallons or less a day.

1803
01:32:35,100 --> 01:32:37,100
Everything says 1 to 5 million although

1804
01:32:37,100 --> 01:32:38,100
he did mention it's not evaporative but

1805
01:32:38,100 --> 01:32:39,100
what are you using? By the way somebody

1806
01:32:39,100 --> 01:32:43,201
asked 70 dB, what does that sound like?

1807
01:32:44,100 --> 01:32:45,100
It's like a hairdryer or vacuum running

1808
01:32:45,100 --> 01:32:49,801
all day long.DB our loudnessAnd for some

1809
01:32:54,100 --> 01:32:55,100
low-frequency pitches as dangerous as

1810
01:32:55,100 --> 01:32:56,100
how loud it is. Additionally tier 4

1811
01:32:56,100 --> 01:33:00,100
generator can mean more than one thing

1812
01:33:00,100 --> 01:33:01,100
And they have not specified, it can

1813
01:33:01,100 --> 01:33:02,100
mean resilient or how well it works or

1814
01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:03,100
safety, it doesn't give off the

1815
01:33:03,100 --> 01:33:06,100
nitrogen oxides that cause cancerOr

1816
01:33:06,100 --> 01:33:07,100
respiratory diseases. I don't see a

1817
01:33:07,100 --> 01:33:10,100
specification.The data center has curb

1818
01:33:10,100 --> 01:33:13,100
appeal, you have 200 generators, have

1819
01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:18,100
you been to Prince William County

1820
01:33:18,100 --> 01:33:19,100
lately? I drive there every single day.

1821
01:33:19,100 --> 01:33:21,100
According to the reportDated December

1822
01:33:21,100 --> 01:33:24,100
9, 2024 conducted by the audit review

1823
01:33:24,100 --> 01:33:27,100
commission data centers of that sides

1824
01:33:27,100 --> 01:33:30,100
only employ 50 to 100 full-time jobs,

1825
01:33:34,100 --> 01:33:35,100
half of those are contract workers not

1826
01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:36,100
necessarily employees of the any act.

1827
01:33:36,100 --> 01:33:40,201
If these areas entities are building it

1828
01:33:47,100 --> 01:33:48,100
they cannot simply sit there and tell

1829
01:33:48,100 --> 01:33:49,100
us how many people will be hired.

1830
01:33:49,100 --> 01:33:50,100
Contrary to the recent news, those

1831
01:33:50,100 --> 01:33:51,100
against data centers are not extremist,

1832
01:33:51,100 --> 01:33:52,100
we are not and I progress our tech. We

1833
01:33:52,100 --> 01:33:55,100
are hereFor health and safety of our

1834
01:33:55,100 --> 01:33:56,100
neighbors. I'm your friendly neighbor

1835
01:33:56,100 --> 01:33:57,100
nerd and I researched for fun. We are

1836
01:33:57,100 --> 01:33:58,100
here to ensure our right to a healthy

1837
01:33:58,100 --> 01:33:59,100
lifeAnd happy lessTo a place we call

1838
01:33:59,100 --> 01:34:03,100
her home. It brings temporary jobs for

1839
01:34:03,100 --> 01:34:07,100
only two years. What do you do then?

1840
01:34:07,100 --> 01:34:08,100
Will even more? According to that

1841
01:34:08,100 --> 01:34:09,100
report that went to Governor Young can,

1842
01:34:09,100 --> 01:34:11,401
the recommendationsSay that electric

1843
01:34:12,100 --> 01:34:15,601
utilities have the authority to delay

1844
01:34:19,100 --> 01:34:20,100
but not deny service to customers when

1845
01:34:20,100 --> 01:34:21,100
the additional customer load can't be

1846
01:34:21,100 --> 01:34:22,100
supported. That's different from what

1847
01:34:22,100 --> 01:34:26,201
we were told.It also recommends that

1848
01:34:33,100 --> 01:34:34,100
our local government establish and

1849
01:34:34,100 --> 01:34:35,100
enforce maximum allowable sitdown

1850
01:34:35,100 --> 01:34:36,100
levels for operational data facilities

1851
01:34:36,100 --> 01:34:38,401
and use alternative low-frequency

1852
01:34:39,100 --> 01:34:40,100
metrics and zoning ordinance, that has

1853
01:34:40,100 --> 01:34:43,100
not yet been done. It also states that

1854
01:34:43,100 --> 01:34:46,100
many mistakes have been done fromOther

1855
01:34:46,100 --> 01:34:49,100
localities in Virginia where they have

1856
01:34:49,100 --> 01:34:52,100
allowed technical centers and not

1857
01:35:05,100 --> 01:35:06,100
consider them industrial to be next or

1858
01:35:06,100 --> 01:35:07,100
look residents in agricultural and it

1859
01:35:07,100 --> 01:35:08,100
states in their report that that should

1860
01:35:08,100 --> 01:35:09,100
not be approved. That industrial

1861
01:35:09,100 --> 01:35:10,100
centers and technical center should not

1862
01:35:10,100 --> 01:35:11,100
be next to residents in agricultural

1863
01:35:11,100 --> 01:35:14,100
areas. If you vote yes you are

1864
01:35:14,100 --> 01:35:15,100
acknowledging your full understanding

1865
01:35:15,100 --> 01:35:16,100
of aquifers, the training, clearly they

1866
01:35:16,100 --> 01:35:17,100
don't understand in our region how

1867
01:35:17,100 --> 01:35:18,100
forever chemicals never ever go away

1868
01:35:18,100 --> 01:35:19,100
and there will be some and the

1869
01:35:19,100 --> 01:35:20,100
understanding ofLow decibel sound and

1870
01:35:20,100 --> 01:35:22,401
your understandingOf great waters

1871
01:35:23,100 --> 01:35:24,100
environmental effects on our entire

1872
01:35:24,100 --> 01:35:26,100
ecosystem. Thank you.

1873
01:35:27,100 --> 01:35:29,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

1874
01:35:35,100 --> 01:35:36,100
>>Elizabeth Taylor followed by Heather

1875
01:35:36,100 --> 01:35:38,100
Reese.

1876
01:35:39,100 --> 01:35:40,100
>>Hey, y'all, I am Elizabeth Taylor, I

1877
01:35:40,100 --> 01:35:42,100
live in back Creek and I just want to

1878
01:35:42,100 --> 01:35:45,601
kind of talk about the larger

1879
01:35:46,100 --> 01:35:47,100
initiative here nationwide, I think we

1880
01:35:47,100 --> 01:35:49,100
all need to put our heads down and wake

1881
01:35:49,100 --> 01:35:50,100
up a little bit that we are on and on

1882
01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:54,100
split of unvented industry that is like

1883
01:35:54,100 --> 01:35:55,100
a parasite that's grown across our

1884
01:35:55,100 --> 01:35:58,601
nation. It's a cancer, and it's

1885
01:36:00,100 --> 01:36:01,100
affecting our supply chains, it's

1886
01:36:01,100 --> 01:36:04,100
affecting and stressing our resources

1887
01:36:04,100 --> 01:36:05,100
And even on May 18 we already initiated

1888
01:36:05,100 --> 01:36:08,100
federal guidance to activate generators

1889
01:36:10,100 --> 01:36:11,100
that across Virginia because the

1890
01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:12,100
electrical grid was stressed. I don't

1891
01:36:12,100 --> 01:36:13,100
know if you rememberArch allies but

1892
01:36:13,100 --> 01:36:16,100
they are very hotIn the air pollution

1893
01:36:16,100 --> 01:36:21,401
is going to be put into our airways are

1894
01:36:23,100 --> 01:36:24,100
just going to be intolerable, let alone

1895
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:25,100
the supply chain itself, there's

1896
01:36:25,100 --> 01:36:26,100
diesels shortages across the nation and

1897
01:36:26,100 --> 01:36:30,801
we as the people are affected by that

1898
01:36:32,100 --> 01:36:33,100
And where all the supplies coming from?

1899
01:36:33,100 --> 01:36:34,100
If we are building thousands of data

1900
01:36:34,100 --> 01:36:37,100
centers across our nationThat are

1901
01:36:38,100 --> 01:36:39,100
affecting us, the people, who is

1902
01:36:39,100 --> 01:36:40,100
building the supplies? I have a 1970s

1903
01:36:40,100 --> 01:36:44,100
building, one drop of water, one pipe

1904
01:36:44,100 --> 01:36:46,100
and I got $50,000 worth of damageThat

1905
01:36:46,100 --> 01:36:50,801
I've got to deal with.What's going to

1906
01:37:05,100 --> 01:37:06,100
happen with these suppliers in a

1907
01:37:06,100 --> 01:37:07,100
stressed economy, what are we looking

1908
01:37:07,100 --> 01:37:08,100
at? These industries are not vetted,

1909
01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:09,100
you cannot have, you don't have impact

1910
01:37:09,100 --> 01:37:10,100
analysis, you don't have metrics, you

1911
01:37:10,100 --> 01:37:11,100
can't rezone to something we've never

1912
01:37:11,100 --> 01:37:12,100
seen in human history. Three years, it

1913
01:37:12,100 --> 01:37:13,100
took me nine months to grow one of my

1914
01:37:13,100 --> 01:37:14,100
three childrenOkay? So just saying,We

1915
01:37:14,100 --> 01:37:15,100
have got to get perspective here in the

1916
01:37:15,100 --> 01:37:16,100
larger national emergency because the

1917
01:37:16,100 --> 01:37:20,100
storm is bigger than data centers. I

1918
01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:21,100
love my community and I love the people

1919
01:37:21,100 --> 01:37:22,100
in my community and I want to

1920
01:37:22,100 --> 01:37:24,100
participate in our health and wellness

1921
01:37:24,100 --> 01:37:25,100
because guess what, when this comes and

1922
01:37:25,100 --> 01:37:27,100
takes all of our resourcesWhere are you

1923
01:37:27,100 --> 01:37:28,100
going to go to sanitize your water? Is

1924
01:37:28,100 --> 01:37:30,100
going to be with us, We know how to do

1925
01:37:30,100 --> 01:37:34,201
that. You're missing the point of the

1926
01:37:41,100 --> 01:37:42,100
Treasures that we have, we are stewards

1927
01:37:42,100 --> 01:37:43,100
of this land in the valley with the

1928
01:37:43,100 --> 01:37:44,100
mountains, we care about our people, we

1929
01:37:44,100 --> 01:37:45,100
care about our butterflies in our

1930
01:37:45,100 --> 01:37:46,100
waterways and our systems, Our true

1931
01:37:46,100 --> 01:37:47,100
treasures are those resourcesAnd as we

1932
01:37:47,100 --> 01:37:48,100
pledge our allegiance under God to this

1933
01:37:48,100 --> 01:37:52,801
country, That is the land we stand on,

1934
01:37:55,100 --> 01:37:56,100
the air we breathe, the water we use in

1935
01:37:56,100 --> 01:38:00,201
our connection to it into each other.

1936
01:38:01,100 --> 01:38:02,100
So I just want us to kind of get out of

1937
01:38:02,100 --> 01:38:03,100
where our own we as humans and see a

1938
01:38:03,100 --> 01:38:06,601
larger picture here.And long story

1939
01:38:09,100 --> 01:38:10,100
short, as we build is a community going

1940
01:38:10,100 --> 01:38:13,100
forward into a sustainable future, Can

1941
01:38:13,100 --> 01:38:14,100
we take our time in building the

1942
01:38:14,100 --> 01:38:17,100
industries that provide us jobs

1943
01:38:17,100 --> 01:38:18,100
Work with our wild spaces and in our

1944
01:38:18,100 --> 01:38:20,100
communities? There's no rush year.

1945
01:38:20,100 --> 01:38:24,100
Let's have some wisdom and step back

1946
01:38:24,100 --> 01:38:25,100
and watch the larger picture unfolds we

1947
01:38:25,100 --> 01:38:27,100
can protect our county and build

1948
01:38:27,100 --> 01:38:28,100
towards industry gains that really

1949
01:38:28,100 --> 01:38:30,401
contribute to community holistically.

1950
01:38:31,100 --> 01:38:32,100
We can do this together, I believe we

1951
01:38:32,100 --> 01:38:35,100
can and I really appreciate you.

1952
01:38:35,100 --> 01:38:36,100
>>Thank you.

1953
01:38:36,100 --> 01:38:38,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

1954
01:38:39,100 --> 01:38:42,100
>>Heather Reese followed by Carrie

1955
01:38:43,100 --> 01:38:44,100
Hibbert.

1956
01:38:44,100 --> 01:38:45,100
>>I am Heather ReeseAnd I am here more

1957
01:38:45,100 --> 01:38:48,100
to speak aboutThe total noise that has

1958
01:38:48,100 --> 01:38:52,801
been alluded toBut I think we are being

1959
01:38:54,100 --> 01:38:57,100
Fed some false information. DBA, I guess

1960
01:38:57,100 --> 01:38:59,100
that is the only metric that we have,

1961
01:38:59,100 --> 01:39:02,100
We are way below the standardWe do not

1962
01:39:02,100 --> 01:39:05,601
have DBC measurements in our propers

1963
01:39:06,100 --> 01:39:09,100
required of these centers.Every

1964
01:39:09,100 --> 01:39:11,100
residence that is backing on thisNeeds

1965
01:39:11,100 --> 01:39:14,100
to have their own meter.This meter

1966
01:39:14,100 --> 01:39:16,100
needs to run 24/7, not an eight hour

1967
01:39:16,100 --> 01:39:18,100
averageWhich is what happens in

1968
01:39:18,100 --> 01:39:21,601
industrialHi Jean when you are doing

1969
01:39:24,100 --> 01:39:27,100
Basic industrial hygiene data gathering

1970
01:39:27,100 --> 01:39:28,100
, you're looking at an eight hour day

1971
01:39:28,100 --> 01:39:30,100
average because they are only looking

1972
01:39:30,100 --> 01:39:32,100
at occupational exposure for their

1973
01:39:32,100 --> 01:39:35,100
workers. We are talking about women,

1974
01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:37,100
Infants, other children running around

1975
01:39:37,100 --> 01:39:40,601
Exposed 24/7/365 days a year. This is

1976
01:39:43,100 --> 01:39:45,100
serious, serious health impact that

1977
01:39:45,100 --> 01:39:47,100
this county is completely ignoring. Why

1978
01:39:47,100 --> 01:39:51,100
did see it even matter? These are the

1979
01:39:51,100 --> 01:39:52,100
decibels you don't hear. These are the

1980
01:39:52,100 --> 01:39:57,100
decibels that get into your body.I am a

1981
01:39:57,100 --> 01:39:58,100
physician, my occupation and, I am not

1982
01:39:58,100 --> 01:40:01,601
an industrial hygienist but I can't

1983
01:40:05,100 --> 01:40:06,100
Nearly is eloquently as Alexis can, but

1984
01:40:06,100 --> 01:40:07,100
our own internal systems run about 5 to

1985
01:40:07,100 --> 01:40:10,100
8HertzOur low frequencies. When you

1986
01:40:13,100 --> 01:40:14,100
have all of these 5 to 8 Hz coming from

1987
01:40:14,100 --> 01:40:17,100
external sources it is elevating

1988
01:40:19,100 --> 01:40:20,100
cortisol, is raising your blood

1989
01:40:20,100 --> 01:40:21,100
pressure, raising your health, you

1990
01:40:21,100 --> 01:40:22,100
might be asleep there all of this and

1991
01:40:22,100 --> 01:40:23,100
yet you're going to have a heart attack

1992
01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:25,100
10 years earlier because of thisChronic

1993
01:40:25,100 --> 01:40:28,100
stress. It's affecting the development

1994
01:40:28,100 --> 01:40:31,100
Of the prefrontal cortex, fetal brains,

1995
01:40:31,100 --> 01:40:32,100
of our children that are growing up

1996
01:40:32,100 --> 01:40:35,100
around theseHere 24/7, 365Damage to our

1997
01:40:38,100 --> 01:40:39,100
children and we have to listen to

1998
01:40:39,100 --> 01:40:41,100
what's happeningIn livestock.

1999
01:40:42,100 --> 01:40:45,601
Livestock, all of them are losingWait.

2000
01:40:49,100 --> 01:40:50,100
Hands are laying 50% fewer eggs, cows

2001
01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:51,100
are not producing as much milk. I grew

2002
01:40:51,100 --> 01:40:53,100
up in Appalachian next to a Goldmine,

2003
01:40:53,100 --> 01:40:57,201
grandpa used to send in the Canaries

2004
01:40:58,100 --> 01:40:59,100
with the coal miners. When the canary

2005
01:40:59,100 --> 01:41:00,100
died you came out. We have to start

2006
01:41:00,100 --> 01:41:01,100
listening to the canaries before our

2007
01:41:01,100 --> 01:41:04,100
own children are injured. And I love

2008
01:41:04,100 --> 01:41:07,100
when they talk aboutYour basicWooden

2009
01:41:09,100 --> 01:41:14,401
house is fine, no.If you really want to

2010
01:41:17,100 --> 01:41:18,100
Halt the sounds that are coming through

2011
01:41:18,100 --> 01:41:19,100
you needed 2 to 4 inch air gap in your

2012
01:41:19,100 --> 01:41:21,100
Windows.Your exterior doors are going

2013
01:41:21,100 --> 01:41:24,100
to be, have to be solid.When you have

2014
01:41:24,100 --> 01:41:26,401
these low-frequency noises coming

2015
01:41:28,100 --> 01:41:29,100
through into your home they are

2016
01:41:29,100 --> 01:41:31,100
amplified, when it's cold out, Their

2017
01:41:31,100 --> 01:41:34,601
amplified, those waves are being pushed

2018
01:41:41,100 --> 01:41:42,100
down into your home, the corners of

2019
01:41:42,100 --> 01:41:43,100
your homes are dangerous, you're going

2020
01:41:43,100 --> 01:41:44,100
to move your furniture to the center of

2021
01:41:44,100 --> 01:41:45,100
the room. These are things that are not

2022
01:41:45,100 --> 01:41:46,100
simple, nobody wants to do that in

2023
01:41:46,100 --> 01:41:47,100
their homes and these are the risks.

2024
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:48,100
There is an industry standard in please

2025
01:41:48,100 --> 01:41:49,100
write this down.This needs to be our

2026
01:41:49,100 --> 01:41:52,100
industry standard. If the DBC is 15

2027
01:41:52,100 --> 01:41:56,100
above DB a then they need to be

2028
01:41:56,100 --> 01:41:57,100
sanctioned.Thank you.

2029
01:41:57,100 --> 01:41:59,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

2030
01:42:05,100 --> 01:42:08,100
>>Carrie Hibbard followed by Scott

2031
01:42:10,100 --> 01:42:11,100
Lech.

2032
01:42:11,100 --> 01:42:12,100
>>Hello, my name is Carrie Hibbard and

2033
01:42:12,100 --> 01:42:16,201
I live in the Gainsborough district.At

2034
01:42:17,100 --> 01:42:18,100
the May work session, one of the

2035
01:42:18,100 --> 01:42:19,100
concerns I had was when they asked me

2036
01:42:19,100 --> 01:42:20,100
about easements,They just stated they

2037
01:42:20,100 --> 01:42:22,100
would negotiateButAppreciate what's

2038
01:42:26,100 --> 01:42:29,100
happening next. Residents expected to

2039
01:42:30,100 --> 01:42:31,100
worry about the possibility of

2040
01:42:31,100 --> 01:42:33,100
governmentInvolvement or imminent

2041
01:42:34,100 --> 01:42:35,100
domain? These were not answered. I

2042
01:42:35,100 --> 01:42:38,100
won't talkAbout the noise because I

2043
01:42:38,100 --> 01:42:41,601
know everybody's going to but 60 dB

2044
01:42:43,100 --> 01:42:44,100
Doesn't sound like much but if it's 24

2045
01:42:44,100 --> 01:42:47,100
hours a day nonstop, The lowest sound

2046
01:42:47,100 --> 01:42:49,100
And get really annoying. And if this is

2047
01:42:49,100 --> 01:42:53,100
your backyard, that is a problem. And

2048
01:42:53,100 --> 01:42:57,100
if there is a zoning violationWe have

2049
01:42:57,100 --> 01:42:59,100
the courts to use, but in the meantime

2050
01:42:59,100 --> 01:43:01,100
these people are living with crapThat

2051
01:43:01,100 --> 01:43:04,100
are surrounding the property. My

2052
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:06,100
mother's property is right next to that

2053
01:43:06,100 --> 01:43:09,601
ResponderThat has the lowest, so you're

2054
01:43:13,100 --> 01:43:16,100
talking about going from 32, 42, to 60.

2055
01:43:16,100 --> 01:43:19,100
That's a big change.Commissioner Kozel,

2056
01:43:19,100 --> 01:43:22,100
you asked aboutA building timeline

2057
01:43:22,100 --> 01:43:26,100
being based on five or seven days a week

2058
01:43:26,100 --> 01:43:27,100
. They said most of our projects are

2059
01:43:27,100 --> 01:43:30,100
five days a week. The proper says

2060
01:43:30,100 --> 01:43:31,100
Monday through Saturday from 7 AM to 6

2061
01:43:31,100 --> 01:43:33,100
PM.So during however many years these

2062
01:43:33,100 --> 01:43:36,100
are being builtNobody can use their

2063
01:43:36,100 --> 01:43:39,601
backyard on a Saturday and relax.

2064
01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:44,601
In the 2025 work session,Proposals were

2065
01:43:47,100 --> 01:43:48,100
considered. Commissioner Whitaker

2066
01:43:48,100 --> 01:43:52,801
stated I don't see any way how this

2067
01:43:55,100 --> 01:43:56,100
benefits the citizens of this county,

2068
01:43:56,100 --> 01:43:57,100
it seems like we have these profiteers

2069
01:43:57,100 --> 01:43:58,100
coming into our county and treating us

2070
01:43:58,100 --> 01:43:59,100
like a cash cow. I could not agree more

2071
01:43:59,100 --> 01:44:00,100
. Chairman Stowe, your words war we

2072
01:44:00,100 --> 01:44:03,100
don'tNeed them adjacent to schools, we

2073
01:44:03,100 --> 01:44:04,100
don't need them adjacent to housing

2074
01:44:04,100 --> 01:44:07,100
areas, We don't need them in areas that

2075
01:44:07,100 --> 01:44:10,100
are peacefulAnd train fullIn rural

2076
01:44:14,100 --> 01:44:15,100
Tranquil and rural. That is still true

2077
01:44:15,100 --> 01:44:19,201
today.You guys talked about the nose

2078
01:44:20,100 --> 01:44:21,100
the camel getting under the tent, my

2079
01:44:21,100 --> 01:44:22,100
concern is you do this one, the

2080
01:44:22,100 --> 01:44:25,100
precedent is setAnd we will have a lot

2081
01:44:25,100 --> 01:44:29,201
of trouble saying no in the future.

2082
01:44:30,100 --> 01:44:31,100
This project and others coming are

2083
01:44:31,100 --> 01:44:33,100
already affecting our community, Many

2084
01:44:33,100 --> 01:44:34,100
people are living with high levels of

2085
01:44:34,100 --> 01:44:37,601
stressAs we research and oppose and

2086
01:44:39,100 --> 01:44:40,100
continue meetings and watch it is very

2087
01:44:40,100 --> 01:44:44,100
stressful to the people who liveIn this

2088
01:44:44,100 --> 01:44:45,100
county. I know several residents who

2089
01:44:45,100 --> 01:44:46,100
are preparing to put their homes on the

2090
01:44:46,100 --> 01:44:49,100
marketIf data centers begin locating

2091
01:44:49,100 --> 01:44:51,100
here. These are not people who planned

2092
01:44:51,100 --> 01:44:52,100
to move, they do not want to live with

2093
01:44:52,100 --> 01:44:55,601
the impacts. Others are publicly asking

2094
01:45:00,100 --> 01:45:01,100
whether they should consider moving

2095
01:45:01,100 --> 01:45:02,100
here, our data centers coming, I don't

2096
01:45:02,100 --> 01:45:03,100
want to move there. That should be a

2097
01:45:03,100 --> 01:45:06,100
concern. So the developer purchased

2098
01:45:06,100 --> 01:45:07,100
land that was owned RA, they brought

2099
01:45:07,100 --> 01:45:10,100
property which does notPermit data

2100
01:45:10,100 --> 01:45:13,100
centers and are asking data centers to

2101
01:45:13,100 --> 01:45:16,601
bear the burden. Residents toBear the

2102
01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:20,100
burden.No one wants a property into a

2103
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:21,100
data center. Would you?Thank you.

2104
01:45:21,100 --> 01:45:22,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

2105
01:45:22,100 --> 01:45:23,100
>>Scott Lynch followed by Bill Moore.

2106
01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:26,601
>>Hi, everyone.This is in my

2107
01:45:28,100 --> 01:45:32,201
neighborhood. I am Scott Lynch, live on

2108
01:45:33,100 --> 01:45:34,100
rest Church Road, I have a small farm,

2109
01:45:34,100 --> 01:45:36,100
struggling to makeIn speed as it is, I

2110
01:45:36,100 --> 01:45:38,100
don't want to have the noiseIn the

2111
01:45:38,100 --> 01:45:41,601
light pollutionIn the air pollution and

2112
01:45:46,100 --> 01:45:47,100
water is our biggest problem, this

2113
01:45:47,100 --> 01:45:48,100
county, this whole country, everywhere

2114
01:45:48,100 --> 01:45:49,100
in the world, water is a problem in the

2115
01:45:49,100 --> 01:45:50,100
county is taking my waterway on my

2116
01:45:50,100 --> 01:45:52,100
propertyAnd I can't seem to do anything

2117
01:45:52,100 --> 01:45:55,601
about it. They started drawing water

2118
01:45:56,100 --> 01:45:59,100
into the quarry to sell to the countyIn

2119
01:45:59,100 --> 01:46:03,100
my Creek dried up on my farm.And I

2120
01:46:03,100 --> 01:46:04,100
haven't got a good answer from anybody

2121
01:46:04,100 --> 01:46:06,100
about that yet.So let's just hope we

2122
01:46:06,100 --> 01:46:10,100
don'tGet a data center, will just make

2123
01:46:10,100 --> 01:46:12,100
me want to move even more. Good night.

2124
01:46:12,100 --> 01:46:13,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

2125
01:46:13,100 --> 01:46:15,100
>>Thank you.

2126
01:46:18,100 --> 01:46:21,601
>>Bill Moore followed by Ted Bauserman.

2127
01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:26,100
>>Good evening.My name is Bill Moore

2128
01:46:26,100 --> 01:46:29,100
and I comeVery probably from Lake

2129
01:46:29,100 --> 01:46:31,401
FrederickIn the (INAUDIBLE) district.

2130
01:46:34,100 --> 01:46:35,100
My high school calculus teacher

2131
01:46:35,100 --> 01:46:39,201
recently passed, So this is for you,

2132
01:46:40,100 --> 01:46:44,100
Mr. Z. There will beSome math.While I

2133
01:46:44,100 --> 01:46:47,100
have learned a lot tonightAboutData

2134
01:46:47,100 --> 01:46:50,100
centersInvisible and soundless as they

2135
01:46:52,100 --> 01:46:55,601
might be, I have heard claimsThatA

2136
01:46:58,100 --> 01:47:00,100
moratorium presenting data centersFrom

2137
01:47:00,100 --> 01:47:04,100
being built in our county is a legal.

2138
01:47:04,100 --> 01:47:05,100
There is another way to discourage

2139
01:47:05,100 --> 01:47:07,100
these unwantedMonstrositiesFrom being

2140
01:47:10,100 --> 01:47:14,201
built here.Money is a powerful lever,

2141
01:47:16,100 --> 01:47:17,100
it can be used for bad things, but it

2142
01:47:17,100 --> 01:47:19,100
can also be used for good things that

2143
01:47:19,100 --> 01:47:22,100
are citizen support.Frederick County's

2144
01:47:22,100 --> 01:47:26,201
tax rate or data center equipmentIs a

2145
01:47:27,100 --> 01:47:29,100
measly dollar 25 for hundred dollars

2146
01:47:29,100 --> 01:47:32,601
assessed. Compare that to Lowden's rate

2147
01:47:33,100 --> 01:47:37,801
of $4.15. I will do the math for you.

2148
01:47:38,100 --> 01:47:42,100
Our rate is 30%Of Loudoun County's rate.

2149
01:47:42,100 --> 01:47:45,601
Now maybeI am picky, Picking data

2150
01:47:51,100 --> 01:47:52,100
here, may maybe I'm cherry picking a

2151
01:47:52,100 --> 01:47:53,100
bit or maybe I'm not. Fairfax County's

2152
01:47:53,100 --> 01:47:56,100
rate is $4.57Per $100, Prince Williams

2153
01:47:59,100 --> 01:48:02,601
is $4.50. Ours is 27 and, 28%Of those

2154
01:48:04,100 --> 01:48:08,801
rates.So good golly.Yes, I would want

2155
01:48:11,100 --> 01:48:15,201
to build in Frederick County as well.

2156
01:48:20,100 --> 01:48:21,100
How about more locally? Warren County,

2157
01:48:21,100 --> 01:48:22,100
Clark County, Falk year County, their

2158
01:48:22,100 --> 01:48:25,100
rates are between $4.15 and $4.50.Ours

2159
01:48:25,100 --> 01:48:28,601
is a dollar 25.It's outrageous.AsAwful

2160
01:48:38,100 --> 01:48:39,100
as that is, it's not the full story.

2161
01:48:39,100 --> 01:48:40,100
Our Board of Supervisors has second

2162
01:48:40,100 --> 01:48:41,100
place in accelerated depreciation rate

2163
01:48:41,100 --> 01:48:44,601
Of 50%In the first year. That's

2164
01:48:46,100 --> 01:48:47,100
effectively cutting our awful rate in

2165
01:48:47,100 --> 01:48:50,100
half.By year four, the rate is cut by

2166
01:48:50,100 --> 01:48:54,201
90%, So the effective rate is then a

2167
01:48:55,100 --> 01:48:57,100
minuscule12.5 centsPer $100 assessed.

2168
01:49:02,100 --> 01:49:06,100
Happily, there is a solution and it

2169
01:49:06,100 --> 01:49:07,100
doesn't require a moratorium. The Board

2170
01:49:07,100 --> 01:49:09,100
of Supervisors should simply move

2171
01:49:09,100 --> 01:49:11,100
Decimal over one placeAnd make the

2172
01:49:11,100 --> 01:49:14,100
dollar 25$12.50Or given the ridiculous

2173
01:49:17,100 --> 01:49:20,100
depreciation rate may be $20. Hundred

2174
01:49:21,100 --> 01:49:24,100
dollars assessed.As Mr. Z would often

2175
01:49:24,100 --> 01:49:29,100
say,QED, not to bore you with the Latin

2176
01:49:29,100 --> 01:49:31,100
, quite easily done.

2177
01:49:32,100 --> 01:49:34,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

2178
01:49:40,100 --> 01:49:41,100
>>Ted Bauserman followed by Vic

2179
01:49:41,100 --> 01:49:43,100
Canfield.

2180
01:49:43,100 --> 01:49:47,801
>>I am a resident along with my husband.

2181
01:49:49,100 --> 01:49:52,100
>>You can pull it down.

2182
01:49:53,100 --> 01:49:54,100
>>I am a resident of Winchester with my

2183
01:49:54,100 --> 01:49:56,401
husband. This generationsCustodians of

2184
01:50:00,100 --> 01:50:01,100
a family farm along the Peckham Creek

2185
01:50:01,100 --> 01:50:03,100
which lies aboutThree or 4 miles due

2186
01:50:03,100 --> 01:50:06,601
eastOf flying J.And 81. So we're

2187
01:50:11,100 --> 01:50:15,100
definitely I think in the impact zone.

2188
01:50:15,100 --> 01:50:16,100
I was sure people are going to be

2189
01:50:16,100 --> 01:50:19,100
talking tonight aboutThe impacts on

2190
01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:21,100
financial resources and impacts on the

2191
01:50:21,100 --> 01:50:22,100
quality of life, so I thought maybe I

2192
01:50:22,100 --> 01:50:25,100
would just for my part open up the

2193
01:50:25,100 --> 01:50:29,201
screen a little bit and talk aboutBuild

2194
01:50:30,100 --> 01:50:31,100
on this idea of slowing this process

2195
01:50:31,100 --> 01:50:34,100
down and looking at how nationally our

2196
01:50:34,100 --> 01:50:37,100
countryIs just being hit by this John

2197
01:50:37,100 --> 01:50:40,601
Norman search, It's likeA goldrush to

2198
01:50:46,100 --> 01:50:47,100
build data centers. What is this all

2199
01:50:47,100 --> 01:50:48,100
about? Is this to benefit American

2200
01:50:48,100 --> 01:50:49,100
people?All of us? Or is it the benefit

2201
01:50:49,100 --> 01:50:52,100
of few?And I have my thoughts about

2202
01:50:52,100 --> 01:50:55,100
that.In Ohio, 25,000 signatures have

2203
01:50:59,100 --> 01:51:03,801
been signed as of MayTo put a slowdown

2204
01:51:06,100 --> 01:51:09,100
on the proposal. They have got a

2205
01:51:09,100 --> 01:51:12,100
proposal for a constitutional amendment

2206
01:51:13,100 --> 01:51:14,100
that would block large-scale data

2207
01:51:14,100 --> 01:51:16,100
centersIn Utah, there's a massive

2208
01:51:16,100 --> 01:51:19,100
pushback effort againstA huge center

2209
01:51:21,100 --> 01:51:24,100
that they're putting inBy a very

2210
01:51:24,100 --> 01:51:26,100
fragile area. In Maine, we have the

2211
01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:29,601
firstState to pass legislative, I can't

2212
01:51:32,100 --> 01:51:33,100
read my own writing, they're trying to

2213
01:51:33,100 --> 01:51:36,100
blockAgain large data centers there,

2214
01:51:37,100 --> 01:51:38,100
and they're trying to argue for more

2215
01:51:38,100 --> 01:51:41,100
timeTill November 27 to give time to

2216
01:51:41,100 --> 01:51:43,401
develop protectiveRegulations. At the

2217
01:51:46,100 --> 01:51:47,100
federal level, Senator Sanders and

2218
01:51:47,100 --> 01:51:49,401
representativeCasey a Cortez have

2219
01:51:51,100 --> 01:51:52,100
introduced the AI data center

2220
01:51:52,100 --> 01:51:56,201
moratorium act, So I thought those were

2221
01:51:58,100 --> 01:51:59,100
all kind of useful to use kind of a big

2222
01:51:59,100 --> 01:52:03,100
picture here.The US, And I hope these

2223
01:52:03,100 --> 01:52:06,601
are half way accurate statistics, Is

2224
01:52:07,100 --> 01:52:09,100
5427 data centers, the largest number

2225
01:52:09,100 --> 01:52:12,601
in the world. China, our technological

2226
01:52:13,100 --> 01:52:16,100
giant neighboring competitor, Has 250In

2227
01:52:22,100 --> 01:52:23,100
the majority of these are unused, they

2228
01:52:23,100 --> 01:52:24,100
are not easy is been in operation at

2229
01:52:24,100 --> 01:52:25,100
this point. So I think there's some

2230
01:52:25,100 --> 01:52:26,100
thought that these centers are

2231
01:52:26,100 --> 01:52:29,601
speculative in natureAnd who knows if

2232
01:52:32,100 --> 01:52:33,100
they will ever be put into operation if

2233
01:52:33,100 --> 01:52:34,100
the tax dollars will be coming into the

2234
01:52:34,100 --> 01:52:38,100
fair peopleOf our county.I have also

2235
01:52:38,100 --> 01:52:41,100
heard and maybe I thought this was a

2236
01:52:41,100 --> 01:52:42,100
conspiracy theory that these are not

2237
01:52:42,100 --> 01:52:44,401
data centersBut surveillance centers.

2238
01:52:46,100 --> 01:52:49,100
So if you haven't read it, please do,

2239
01:52:49,100 --> 01:52:51,100
it really talks about the actual use of

2240
01:52:51,100 --> 01:52:53,100
the data.

2241
01:52:53,100 --> 01:52:55,100
>>Thank you.

2242
01:53:05,100 --> 01:53:06,100
>>Mr. Chairman, I think Vic Canfield is

2243
01:53:06,100 --> 01:53:07,100
left so Jay Banks is the next speaker

2244
01:53:07,100 --> 01:53:09,401
followed by Alexander (INAUDIBLE).

2245
01:53:10,100 --> 01:53:11,100
>>If there's any gentlemen in the room

2246
01:53:11,100 --> 01:53:12,100
that are practicing chivalry there's a

2247
01:53:12,100 --> 01:53:13,100
couple of ladies in the back who might

2248
01:53:13,100 --> 01:53:17,201
like to sit.Chivalry is not dead.

2249
01:53:27,100 --> 01:53:28,100
>>Who is next, sir?

2250
01:53:28,100 --> 01:53:31,601
>>Good evening.J Banks followed by

2251
01:53:33,100 --> 01:53:34,100
Alexander.

2252
01:53:34,100 --> 01:53:35,100
>>Alexander, if you can line up behind

2253
01:53:35,100 --> 01:53:36,100
him?So we can move it along

2254
01:53:36,100 --> 01:53:38,100
expeditiously.

2255
01:53:43,100 --> 01:53:44,100
>>Randy, it's good to see you in

2256
01:53:44,100 --> 01:53:45,100
Fairfax County this evening. I can't

2257
01:53:45,100 --> 01:53:46,100
articulate any better than what the

2258
01:53:46,100 --> 01:53:47,100
previous speakers have brought forth to

2259
01:53:47,100 --> 01:53:50,100
you to talk aboutThis County. So I'm

2260
01:53:50,100 --> 01:53:52,100
going to stick with what I know. And

2261
01:53:52,100 --> 01:53:54,100
that's over 30 years of municipal urban

2262
01:53:54,100 --> 01:53:57,100
forestryAnd land development process.So

2263
01:54:00,100 --> 01:54:02,100
let's start. I attended James would

2264
01:54:02,100 --> 01:54:05,601
Meeting and I brought the attention,

2265
01:54:07,100 --> 01:54:10,601
The county's webpage states failure to

2266
01:54:11,100 --> 01:54:14,100
maintain the required vegetative buffer

2267
01:54:14,100 --> 01:54:15,100
is a violation of the County zoning

2268
01:54:15,100 --> 01:54:18,100
ordinanceAnd can be enforced by the

2269
01:54:18,100 --> 01:54:22,801
County.We only have to look at the

2270
01:54:24,100 --> 01:54:27,100
solar panel farmsAnd we can see that

2271
01:54:27,100 --> 01:54:30,100
that buffer yardIn those areas have

2272
01:54:30,100 --> 01:54:33,601
failed miserably. And to this day,

2273
01:54:35,100 --> 01:54:36,100
nothing is being done, they're not

2274
01:54:36,100 --> 01:54:39,100
maintaining, the weeds are growing over

2275
01:54:39,100 --> 01:54:41,100
them, the vines are choking them out,

2276
01:54:41,100 --> 01:54:42,100
and all they've done is replace some

2277
01:54:42,100 --> 01:54:46,801
trees.So it says you can maintain, so

2278
01:54:48,100 --> 01:54:51,100
there is not a will to maintain.These

2279
01:54:51,100 --> 01:54:55,801
buffer yards. And so there's going to be

2280
01:54:56,100 --> 01:54:57,100
a big faction of buffer yards provided

2281
01:54:57,100 --> 01:54:59,100
with this.

2282
01:55:00,100 --> 01:55:05,401
>>Excuse me.So if we are not going to

2283
01:55:06,100 --> 01:55:07,100
hold their feet to the fire, we are

2284
01:55:07,100 --> 01:55:09,100
going to have a very difficult timeWith

2285
01:55:09,100 --> 01:55:12,100
this project as well.So if we want to

2286
01:55:12,100 --> 01:55:16,801
talk aboutOne of the issues that I saw

2287
01:55:18,100 --> 01:55:22,801
At the James Wood meeting, There was a

2288
01:55:23,100 --> 01:55:24,100
lady that was up on stage, very nice

2289
01:55:24,100 --> 01:55:27,100
woman, she wasBrought in as an acoustic

2290
01:55:27,100 --> 01:55:30,100
specialistAnd is brought toOn audiences

2291
01:55:32,100 --> 01:55:35,100
attentionThat she was hired by the

2292
01:55:35,100 --> 01:55:37,401
County because she understandsAcoustics.

2293
01:55:43,100 --> 01:55:44,100
And when I brought up this issue about

2294
01:55:44,100 --> 01:55:47,100
theSolar farms, the county staffJust

2295
01:55:48,100 --> 01:55:51,100
saidWe are learning to work with the

2296
01:55:51,100 --> 01:55:53,100
developer.

2297
01:55:55,100 --> 01:55:59,100
So my question is if you go out to getA

2298
01:55:59,100 --> 01:56:00,100
specialist to work on the acoustics of

2299
01:56:00,100 --> 01:56:05,100
a project, why would you go out and get

2300
01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:06,100
a qualified certified arborist to work

2301
01:56:06,100 --> 01:56:08,401
with the countyWho understandsProperly

2302
01:56:13,100 --> 01:56:14,100
can read them, write them, understand

2303
01:56:14,100 --> 01:56:15,100
them and then the development

2304
01:56:15,100 --> 01:56:16,100
conditions?And evaluate the existing

2305
01:56:16,100 --> 01:56:19,601
vegetationIf they state they are going

2306
01:56:22,100 --> 01:56:23,100
to say, there's no tree preservation in

2307
01:56:23,100 --> 01:56:25,100
the zoning ordinance. There is none in

2308
01:56:25,100 --> 01:56:29,201
the proffers. We will save some trees.

2309
01:56:30,100 --> 01:56:31,100
Is left open to interpretation by the

2310
01:56:31,100 --> 01:56:33,401
developer, not the county.

2311
01:56:36,100 --> 01:56:37,100
I looked at the data center and I went

2312
01:56:37,100 --> 01:56:41,201
through. The application is very poor.I

2313
01:56:45,100 --> 01:56:46,100
will leave it at that.

2314
01:56:46,100 --> 01:56:47,100
>>Thank you.

2315
01:56:47,100 --> 01:56:48,100
>>

2316
01:56:48,100 --> 01:56:50,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

2317
01:56:52,100 --> 01:56:54,401
>>Alexander Witter followed byRebecca

2318
01:56:58,100 --> 01:56:59,100
(INAUDIBLE). REMICADE evening, name is

2319
01:56:59,100 --> 01:57:02,601
Alexander Witter and I am presidentOf

2320
01:57:04,100 --> 01:57:05,100
(INAUDIBLE). As soon as a musician and

2321
01:57:05,100 --> 01:57:07,100
hobbyist I prepared comments about the

2322
01:57:07,100 --> 01:57:08,100
noise analysis but I think our sound

2323
01:57:08,100 --> 01:57:12,201
consultant address the bulk of what I

2324
01:57:18,100 --> 01:57:19,100
wanted to say. The most important thing

2325
01:57:19,100 --> 01:57:20,100
here is for the residents. They will

2326
01:57:20,100 --> 01:57:21,100
notice a significant increase in noise

2327
01:57:21,100 --> 01:57:24,100
nearby. Even a technically compliant

2328
01:57:24,100 --> 01:57:25,100
facility represents a dramatic change

2329
01:57:25,100 --> 01:57:26,100
to the environment. Residents have

2330
01:57:26,100 --> 01:57:27,100
known to generationsCompared to what

2331
01:57:27,100 --> 01:57:30,601
they are accustomed to. You canArgue

2332
01:57:38,100 --> 01:57:39,100
that it won't be above this or that

2333
01:57:39,100 --> 01:57:40,100
threshold it isn't noise pollution but

2334
01:57:40,100 --> 01:57:41,100
let's take a look at what our comp plan

2335
01:57:41,100 --> 01:57:42,100
designs is noise pollution? Unwanted

2336
01:57:42,100 --> 01:57:43,100
news often describedAs a displeasing

2337
01:57:43,100 --> 01:57:44,100
sound that disrupts the activity or

2338
01:57:44,100 --> 01:57:48,201
balance of human or animal life. A

2339
01:57:49,100 --> 01:57:50,100
substantial number of people would

2340
01:57:50,100 --> 01:57:52,100
probably describe that noise increase

2341
01:57:52,100 --> 01:57:53,100
as a disruption and hardly anything is

2342
01:57:53,100 --> 01:57:54,100
been said on the potential impact of

2343
01:57:54,100 --> 01:57:58,201
that on deer and wildlife. The zoning

2344
01:57:59,100 --> 01:58:00,100
ordinance themselves states that uses

2345
01:58:00,100 --> 01:58:03,601
are allowed which do not create

2346
01:58:10,100 --> 01:58:11,100
significant noise be on the property

2347
01:58:11,100 --> 01:58:12,100
lines. Smoke, dust, or other hazard.

2348
01:58:12,100 --> 01:58:13,100
Even the technical compliance there

2349
01:58:13,100 --> 01:58:14,100
will be a perceptual increase in noise

2350
01:58:14,100 --> 01:58:15,100
beyond the property line for the

2351
01:58:15,100 --> 01:58:16,100
residents. I argue that any use that

2352
01:58:16,100 --> 01:58:17,100
needs a proper to mitigate and

2353
01:58:17,100 --> 01:58:19,100
increases use that doesn't conform to

2354
01:58:19,100 --> 01:58:20,100
the standards of the TM ordinance

2355
01:58:20,100 --> 01:58:23,601
itself.Moreover, even if data centers

2356
01:58:29,100 --> 01:58:30,100
are allowed by right in the TM, that

2357
01:58:30,100 --> 01:58:31,100
does not mean that the specific project

2358
01:58:31,100 --> 01:58:32,100
fits within that zone.Now I want to

2359
01:58:32,100 --> 01:58:35,100
address the Northeast Frederick land

2360
01:58:36,100 --> 01:58:39,100
use plan. The applicant may counter all

2361
01:58:39,100 --> 01:58:43,201
of this with a sentenceThat this area

2362
01:58:45,100 --> 01:58:46,100
may be well suited for energy intensive

2363
01:58:46,100 --> 01:58:47,100
development, yet this sentence is

2364
01:58:47,100 --> 01:58:50,100
conditional. Note the full language

2365
01:58:50,100 --> 01:58:51,100
reads only if the other necessary

2366
01:58:51,100 --> 01:58:53,100
utilities could be provided in the

2367
01:58:53,100 --> 01:58:54,100
development provides benefit to

2368
01:58:54,100 --> 01:58:57,100
Frederick County. Does this project

2369
01:58:59,100 --> 01:59:00,100
provide benefit to the county beyond

2370
01:59:00,100 --> 01:59:04,801
revenue and maybe jobs?I would say no.

2371
01:59:06,100 --> 01:59:07,100
The conference of plan states the

2372
01:59:07,100 --> 01:59:08,100
purpose of a plan is to guide and

2373
01:59:08,100 --> 01:59:09,100
accomplishThe development of the

2374
01:59:09,100 --> 01:59:12,100
jurisdiction to the health, Safety,

2375
01:59:12,100 --> 01:59:15,100
prosperity and general welfare.Revenue

2376
01:59:16,100 --> 01:59:17,100
is a part of prosperity but the first

2377
01:59:17,100 --> 01:59:20,100
things listed are health and safety.

2378
01:59:20,100 --> 01:59:21,100
That order is important because you

2379
01:59:21,100 --> 01:59:24,100
can't have prosperity without health

2380
01:59:27,100 --> 01:59:28,100
and safety. Those two have precedents.

2381
01:59:28,100 --> 01:59:29,100
When you are weighing rezoning, you are

2382
01:59:29,100 --> 01:59:32,100
justifying in citing concerns about

2383
01:59:32,100 --> 01:59:33,100
safety, health, and welfare. You're

2384
01:59:33,100 --> 01:59:36,100
allowed to deny on the basis that the

2385
01:59:36,100 --> 01:59:37,100
rezoning doesn't fit with the

2386
01:59:37,100 --> 01:59:38,100
conference of plan, that the concerns

2387
01:59:38,100 --> 01:59:40,100
have not been adequately addressed.

2388
01:59:40,100 --> 01:59:44,100
What I have heard from the applicant is

2389
01:59:44,100 --> 01:59:45,100
a lack of concern for our conference a

2390
01:59:45,100 --> 01:59:47,100
plan, a lot of if's and uncertainties

2391
01:59:47,100 --> 01:59:50,100
and creative interpretations of a

2392
01:59:51,100 --> 01:59:52,100
county's ordinances. The plan

2393
01:59:52,100 --> 01:59:53,100
discourages this type of use and I

2394
01:59:53,100 --> 01:59:54,100
believe it is on this basis that the

2395
01:59:54,100 --> 01:59:56,100
applicationShould be moved for denial.

2396
01:59:56,100 --> 01:59:58,100
Thank you.

2397
01:59:58,100 --> 02:00:00,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

2398
02:00:03,100 --> 02:00:04,000
>>Rebecca Bunning followed by Stacy

2399
02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:05,100
Haga.

2400
02:00:05,100 --> 02:00:06,100
>>My name is Reckitt Monson, I am a

2401
02:00:06,100 --> 02:00:07,100
resident of Stonewall district. I would

2402
02:00:07,100 --> 02:00:08,100
like to turn to the water concerns. The

2403
02:00:08,100 --> 02:00:11,601
water thatThis facility over the will

2404
02:00:12,100 --> 02:00:13,100
be using is coming from our groundwater

2405
02:00:13,100 --> 02:00:14,100
and that affects all of us. The other

2406
02:00:14,100 --> 02:00:16,100
thing that I wonder if we thought about

2407
02:00:16,100 --> 02:00:18,401
isThis project willDisplaced maybe650

2408
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:29,800
houses.Are we going to do, add an

2409
02:00:33,100 --> 02:00:35,401
additional 650 houses, house useDemand

2410
02:00:38,100 --> 02:00:42,201
to our water system, water is essential

2411
02:00:43,100 --> 02:00:47,100
, Is essential for all of us for life,

2412
02:00:47,100 --> 02:00:51,100
So I just wanted to encourage youTo

2413
02:00:51,100 --> 02:00:52,100
deny this application based on the

2414
02:00:52,100 --> 02:00:55,601
amount of waterThat it will use.

2415
02:00:57,100 --> 02:00:58,100
Virginia, as you guys probably are

2416
02:00:58,100 --> 02:01:00,100
aware, has beenAnd horribly a drought

2417
02:01:00,100 --> 02:01:02,100
situation and has entered a drought

2418
02:01:02,100 --> 02:01:05,100
situationEvery year for the last four

2419
02:01:05,100 --> 02:01:08,100
or five years. Climate scientists

2420
02:01:09,100 --> 02:01:11,401
forecast thatFrequent drought will

2421
02:01:14,100 --> 02:01:15,100
become more and more common, so we need

2422
02:01:15,100 --> 02:01:16,100
to think about these things going

2423
02:01:16,100 --> 02:01:19,100
forwardAnd not spend tomorrow's water

2424
02:01:21,100 --> 02:01:22,100
today. So for that reason I encourage

2425
02:01:22,100 --> 02:01:23,100
you to deny this application. Thank you

2426
02:01:23,100 --> 02:01:24,100
for your time.

2427
02:01:24,100 --> 02:01:26,100
>>Thank you.

2428
02:01:32,100 --> 02:01:33,100
>>Stacy Haga followed by Matt Haga.

2429
02:01:33,100 --> 02:01:34,100
From a good evening, my name is Stacy

2430
02:01:34,100 --> 02:01:38,100
Neka and I live off Bruce town Road in

2431
02:01:38,100 --> 02:01:39,100
the Stonewall district and I am here to

2432
02:01:39,100 --> 02:01:42,100
oppose this rezoning effort. I could

2433
02:01:42,100 --> 02:01:43,100
echo everything that has been said so

2434
02:01:43,100 --> 02:01:47,201
farAnd that I anticipate will be said

2435
02:01:51,100 --> 02:01:52,100
but at the health practitioner in the

2436
02:01:52,100 --> 02:01:53,100
area I specifically am concerned about

2437
02:01:53,100 --> 02:01:54,100
the health implications, I agree

2438
02:01:54,100 --> 02:01:57,100
completelyWith what Doctor Reese was

2439
02:01:57,100 --> 02:01:58,100
saying about the low tone frequencies,

2440
02:01:58,100 --> 02:01:59,100
have great concerns. We don't have

2441
02:01:59,100 --> 02:02:02,601
long-term dataOn these data centers. We

2442
02:02:04,100 --> 02:02:07,100
do have short-term data, we do know

2443
02:02:07,100 --> 02:02:09,401
that these frequencies andThe

2444
02:02:10,100 --> 02:02:11,100
byproducts and omissions from these

2445
02:02:11,100 --> 02:02:13,401
plans affect respiratory cardiovascular

2446
02:02:15,100 --> 02:02:17,100
disease neurological function, brain

2447
02:02:17,100 --> 02:02:21,801
health. We see an increase in all of

2448
02:02:24,100 --> 02:02:25,100
these things already because of our

2449
02:02:25,100 --> 02:02:26,100
daily lives and this will only add

2450
02:02:26,100 --> 02:02:29,100
further insult to injury in my opinion.

2451
02:02:29,100 --> 02:02:33,100
We have a long history in this country

2452
02:02:33,100 --> 02:02:34,100
of doing things that we think are safe

2453
02:02:34,100 --> 02:02:37,100
and healthy that end up not being safe

2454
02:02:37,100 --> 02:02:38,100
and healthy. We put cocaine and

2455
02:02:38,100 --> 02:02:41,100
Coca-Cola, we put lead in paint, we put

2456
02:02:41,100 --> 02:02:44,100
radium and makeup, we put talcIn baby

2457
02:02:44,100 --> 02:02:47,100
powder, doctorsSmoked in exam rooms.

2458
02:02:51,100 --> 02:02:52,100
Let's not even talk about the last five

2459
02:02:52,100 --> 02:02:56,100
years of assault on public health. We

2460
02:02:56,100 --> 02:02:59,100
know there are long-term implications

2461
02:02:59,100 --> 02:03:00,100
But we don't know what they aren't

2462
02:03:00,100 --> 02:03:04,100
until we do we need to just slow the

2463
02:03:04,100 --> 02:03:05,100
roll, like it's been said, we cannot

2464
02:03:05,100 --> 02:03:07,100
rush into thisBecause ultimately the

2465
02:03:07,100 --> 02:03:11,801
people, You guys, some of you are my

2466
02:03:12,100 --> 02:03:13,100
friends, we are all going to pay the

2467
02:03:13,100 --> 02:03:17,100
price, We are going to pay, we're going

2468
02:03:17,100 --> 02:03:18,100
to have water scarcity, higher

2469
02:03:18,100 --> 02:03:20,100
electricity bills, We are going to have

2470
02:03:20,100 --> 02:03:23,100
higher healthcare costsIn real estate

2471
02:03:23,100 --> 02:03:25,100
is going to tank, specifically we

2472
02:03:25,100 --> 02:03:29,201
purchased our houseA year ago and angry

2473
02:03:32,100 --> 02:03:35,100
Reservations because I already knew

2474
02:03:35,100 --> 02:03:36,100
water was an issue and that's only

2475
02:03:36,100 --> 02:03:37,100
going to further that issue. With the

2476
02:03:37,100 --> 02:03:40,100
ultimate priceIs our health. We cannot

2477
02:03:40,100 --> 02:03:43,100
get that back, and the only way to even

2478
02:03:43,100 --> 02:03:44,100
improve your health when these

2479
02:03:44,100 --> 02:03:46,401
environmentalFactors is to remove

2480
02:03:47,100 --> 02:03:48,100
yourself and that's what's going to

2481
02:03:48,100 --> 02:03:50,100
happenIn Frederick County, we will have

2482
02:03:50,100 --> 02:03:53,601
to remove ourselves, Not bring people

2483
02:03:54,100 --> 02:03:58,100
in, push people out, and I don't think

2484
02:03:58,100 --> 02:03:59,100
that is a long-term solution for our

2485
02:03:59,100 --> 02:04:00,100
county, thank you very much for your

2486
02:04:00,100 --> 02:04:01,100
time.

2487
02:04:01,100 --> 02:04:02,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

2488
02:04:02,100 --> 02:04:04,100
>>Thank you.

2489
02:04:07,100 --> 02:04:10,100
>>Matt Hagar followed by Willie Deutsch.

2490
02:04:10,100 --> 02:04:13,100
>>Good evening, Matt Hager, also

2491
02:04:14,100 --> 02:04:15,100
Clearbrook, that was my better half

2492
02:04:15,100 --> 02:04:19,801
just speaking. So I have heard the name

2493
02:04:22,100 --> 02:04:23,100
equips mentioned several times, I

2494
02:04:23,100 --> 02:04:24,100
believe that the applicant in this

2495
02:04:24,100 --> 02:04:25,100
case. For those who don't know, equals

2496
02:04:25,100 --> 02:04:26,100
is probablyMaybe even $1 trillion data

2497
02:04:26,100 --> 02:04:29,601
center(INAUDIBLE). This is not just

2498
02:04:33,100 --> 02:04:34,100
respectful or disparaging, butI don't

2499
02:04:34,100 --> 02:04:38,201
knowThat they have a connection to this

2500
02:04:41,100 --> 02:04:42,100
area. They're doing a good job, they

2501
02:04:42,100 --> 02:04:43,100
are doing their job, they are pursuing

2502
02:04:43,100 --> 02:04:46,100
the interest of their employer, But I

2503
02:04:46,100 --> 02:04:49,601
don't know that their responsibility is

2504
02:04:51,100 --> 02:04:52,100
the best interest of the citizens of

2505
02:04:52,100 --> 02:04:56,801
the county, And I'm sure I don't want

2506
02:04:58,100 --> 02:04:59,100
to tell members of the commission whose

2507
02:04:59,100 --> 02:05:00,100
responsibility that is. There's a lot

2508
02:05:00,100 --> 02:05:04,100
of reasons that I think that most of

2509
02:05:04,100 --> 02:05:06,100
which have already been said that I

2510
02:05:06,100 --> 02:05:09,100
think re-zoning, improving rezoning will

2511
02:05:13,100 --> 02:05:15,100
Was a mistake. I want to point out

2512
02:05:15,100 --> 02:05:18,100
questions around proffers. What's in

2513
02:05:20,100 --> 02:05:21,100
the proffers, how they are in force and

2514
02:05:21,100 --> 02:05:24,100
what's not in the propers.What's in the

2515
02:05:24,100 --> 02:05:25,100
proffers, there are some serious

2516
02:05:25,100 --> 02:05:28,100
ambiguities around sound. I believe

2517
02:05:28,100 --> 02:05:31,601
there is a statement that theGenerators

2518
02:05:36,100 --> 02:05:37,100
would not be used except in emergency

2519
02:05:37,100 --> 02:05:38,100
circumstances, but I have not heard a

2520
02:05:38,100 --> 02:05:41,100
definition of emergency. What does the

2521
02:05:41,100 --> 02:05:42,100
company consider to be an emergency? Is

2522
02:05:42,100 --> 02:05:46,801
at high rates? I don't know.Also,When

2523
02:05:52,100 --> 02:05:53,100
we talk about lighting, there is

2524
02:05:53,100 --> 02:05:54,100
consideration of individual lighting

2525
02:05:54,100 --> 02:05:55,100
fixtures, but I didn't see any

2526
02:05:55,100 --> 02:05:56,100
consideration of aggregateImpact of

2527
02:05:56,100 --> 02:06:00,201
lighting.Has that been looked into? I

2528
02:06:05,100 --> 02:06:06,100
don't know, but I can tell you having

2529
02:06:06,100 --> 02:06:07,100
lived in multiple locations are on the

2530
02:06:07,100 --> 02:06:08,100
county, industrial facilities the site,

2531
02:06:08,100 --> 02:06:12,201
a national lightingIt throws off a lot

2532
02:06:16,100 --> 02:06:17,100
of glow. Significant. The lighting

2533
02:06:17,100 --> 02:06:19,401
doesn't address qualitative aspectsOr

2534
02:06:24,100 --> 02:06:25,100
the type of lighting. I think the

2535
02:06:25,100 --> 02:06:26,100
amount of light pollution can probably

2536
02:06:26,100 --> 02:06:27,100
vary, I am no expert, based on the type

2537
02:06:27,100 --> 02:06:29,100
of lighting being used.

2538
02:06:29,100 --> 02:06:30,100
I think I would also mention in my last

2539
02:06:30,100 --> 02:06:33,100
time hereThe biggest thing to me about

2540
02:06:33,100 --> 02:06:36,100
the proffers isIt seemed inadequate

2541
02:06:49,100 --> 02:06:50,100
Affecting those in the county most

2542
02:06:50,100 --> 02:06:51,100
impacted by this development. I didn't

2543
02:06:51,100 --> 02:06:52,100
see anything about, it's all berm,

2544
02:06:52,100 --> 02:06:55,100
which is great, And I know there are

2545
02:06:55,100 --> 02:06:56,100
limits to what proffers can be offered

2546
02:06:56,100 --> 02:06:58,100
how they can be negotiated, but it

2547
02:06:58,100 --> 02:06:59,100
didn't seem like there was a lot of

2548
02:06:59,100 --> 02:07:02,100
thought given to how can we adjust the

2549
02:07:02,100 --> 02:07:03,100
proffers or how can the applicant

2550
02:07:03,100 --> 02:07:06,100
adjust the proffersTo better mitigate

2551
02:07:07,100 --> 02:07:08,100
the impact of placing such an

2552
02:07:08,100 --> 02:07:11,100
industrial siteRight next door? That's

2553
02:07:12,100 --> 02:07:13,100
it, thanks.

2554
02:07:13,100 --> 02:07:15,100
>>Thank you.

2555
02:07:35,100 --> 02:07:36,100
>>My name is Willie Deutsche. One of US

2556
02:07:36,100 --> 02:07:37,100
a really good question. If you had a

2557
02:07:37,100 --> 02:07:38,100
data center would you live next to it?

2558
02:07:38,100 --> 02:07:39,100
The applicant said I would look at the

2559
02:07:39,100 --> 02:07:40,100
conference a plan, the zoning ordinances

2560
02:07:40,100 --> 02:07:41,100
When I decide where to man. Buy. What

2561
02:07:41,100 --> 02:07:45,100
is this land right now? It's mixed-use.

2562
02:07:45,100 --> 02:07:46,100
Mixed-use is generally considered a mix

2563
02:07:46,100 --> 02:07:48,401
of office-based restaurant storesHousing

2564
02:07:52,100 --> 02:07:53,100
Kind while data centers is an

2565
02:07:53,100 --> 02:07:54,100
acceptable use listed under it, the

2566
02:07:54,100 --> 02:07:55,100
development has to be mixed. There's

2567
02:07:55,100 --> 02:07:58,100
nothing mixed in this development.It's

2568
02:07:58,100 --> 02:08:01,100
a heavy industrial base projectThat's

2569
02:08:02,100 --> 02:08:03,100
entirely data centers. There's nothing

2570
02:08:03,100 --> 02:08:07,100
mixed about it.A homeowner in the year

2571
02:08:07,100 --> 02:08:08,100
by would have zero expectation they

2572
02:08:08,100 --> 02:08:10,100
would have a high levelIndustrial

2573
02:08:10,100 --> 02:08:14,201
project right next to their home when

2574
02:08:15,100 --> 02:08:16,100
they looked at the comp plan it's all

2575
02:08:16,100 --> 02:08:17,100
mixed-use. So I think you should take

2576
02:08:17,100 --> 02:08:20,601
that under consideration.. Next, I want

2577
02:08:21,100 --> 02:08:22,100
to run through a couple of polls. Polls

2578
02:08:22,100 --> 02:08:24,100
are not everything, but April 2026

2579
02:08:24,100 --> 02:08:27,100
Washington Post releasedA couple of

2580
02:08:30,100 --> 02:08:31,100
polls in Northern Virginia. In 2023

2581
02:08:31,100 --> 02:08:33,100
they saw 69% support for data centers.

2582
02:08:33,100 --> 02:08:36,100
2026 they saw 35%.Gallup released a

2583
02:08:42,100 --> 02:08:43,100
national poll that said 77% opposition

2584
02:08:43,100 --> 02:08:44,100
to data centers and Winchester showed

2585
02:08:44,100 --> 02:08:46,100
overwhelming operation opposition. They

2586
02:08:46,100 --> 02:08:48,401
had 2900 respondentsAnd only a 3%

2587
02:08:51,100 --> 02:08:53,401
margin ofError.It's statistically

2588
02:08:58,100 --> 02:08:59,100
significant. The more people that see

2589
02:08:59,100 --> 02:09:00,100
it in their backyard realize they don't

2590
02:09:00,100 --> 02:09:05,100
want it. One of the reasons here is jobs

2591
02:09:05,100 --> 02:09:06,100
. The data center talk about the jobs

2592
02:09:06,100 --> 02:09:08,100
they are bringing to the community.

2593
02:09:08,100 --> 02:09:09,100
What they don't talk about is the fact

2594
02:09:09,100 --> 02:09:12,100
that data centersExists to reduce and

2595
02:09:12,100 --> 02:09:16,100
take away jobs from the population.We

2596
02:09:16,100 --> 02:09:20,201
are looking at a future time. Where

2597
02:09:21,100 --> 02:09:22,100
people don't have jobs because of the

2598
02:09:22,100 --> 02:09:23,100
automation. We're not talking about

2599
02:09:23,100 --> 02:09:26,601
universal basic incomes and ways to

2600
02:09:27,100 --> 02:09:28,100
facilitate people that will no longer

2601
02:09:28,100 --> 02:09:29,100
have jobs and mats because of data

2602
02:09:29,100 --> 02:09:32,601
centers. One of the purposesOf mass

2603
02:09:33,100 --> 02:09:34,100
hyper scale data centers being built

2604
02:09:34,100 --> 02:09:37,100
across countryIs to reduce jobs that we

2605
02:09:37,100 --> 02:09:40,100
have for corporate profit. So when you

2606
02:09:40,100 --> 02:09:43,601
talk about jobs being brought inYou

2607
02:09:46,100 --> 02:09:47,100
need to do a full study on jobs taken

2608
02:09:47,100 --> 02:09:50,601
out and removed. You're seeing mass

2609
02:09:52,100 --> 02:09:53,100
layoffs in the tech industry and when

2610
02:09:53,100 --> 02:09:54,100
AI is brought in. Just talking about

2611
02:09:54,100 --> 02:09:56,100
really the fewest jobs per square foot

2612
02:09:56,100 --> 02:09:57,100
of a major industrial program being

2613
02:09:57,100 --> 02:10:01,100
brought in, We also have to consider

2614
02:10:01,100 --> 02:10:02,100
the jobs being taken out. Thank you

2615
02:10:02,100 --> 02:10:04,100
very much.

2616
02:10:10,100 --> 02:10:11,100
>>Heidi Liz Inskeep followed by

2617
02:10:11,100 --> 02:10:13,100
Kathleen Cargill.

2618
02:10:14,100 --> 02:10:18,801
>>My name is Heidi Liz Inskeep from the

2619
02:10:20,100 --> 02:10:21,100
OPEC and district. Thank you for

2620
02:10:21,100 --> 02:10:22,100
reminding me that I brought something I

2621
02:10:22,100 --> 02:10:25,601
received in the mail from Frederick

2622
02:10:28,100 --> 02:10:29,100
water, it starts with for the third

2623
02:10:29,100 --> 02:10:30,100
consecutive year Frederick County is

2624
02:10:30,100 --> 02:10:31,100
experiencing drought. By the time these

2625
02:10:31,100 --> 02:10:32,100
data centers are built how many yearsWe

2626
02:10:32,100 --> 02:10:33,100
have experienced drought. You tout the

2627
02:10:33,100 --> 02:10:35,100
various water sources in Frederick

2628
02:10:35,100 --> 02:10:38,100
County, not one of those water sources

2629
02:10:38,100 --> 02:10:41,601
is unaffected by drought conditions.Now

2630
02:10:45,100 --> 02:10:46,100
in 2008 the vision you have general

2631
02:10:46,100 --> 02:10:47,100
assembly what lock the Commonwealth

2632
02:10:47,100 --> 02:10:49,100
into a contractTo attract businesses.

2633
02:10:49,100 --> 02:10:50,100
It seemed like a great idea, the

2634
02:10:50,100 --> 02:10:53,601
reasoning wasThe few million that would

2635
02:10:55,100 --> 02:10:56,100
be lost in revenue would be a small

2636
02:10:56,100 --> 02:10:57,100
price to pay for the jobs that would be

2637
02:10:57,100 --> 02:11:00,100
generated. That 2008 decision is now

2638
02:11:01,100 --> 02:11:03,401
costing the Commonwealth billionsAnd

2639
02:11:04,100 --> 02:11:07,601
Virginians are bound by itUntil2035.It

2640
02:11:10,100 --> 02:11:11,100
is no wonder that billion dollar

2641
02:11:11,100 --> 02:11:14,100
companies are flocking to this business

2642
02:11:14,100 --> 02:11:15,100
friendly state for data centers.

2643
02:11:15,100 --> 02:11:17,100
Ladies, gentlemen, We can't know what

2644
02:11:17,100 --> 02:11:21,100
the future holds, but I hope that we

2645
02:11:21,100 --> 02:11:23,100
can agree that climate change is real,

2646
02:11:23,100 --> 02:11:25,100
even if we don't agree on its causeAnd

2647
02:11:25,100 --> 02:11:29,801
I hope that we can agreeThat bar none,

2648
02:11:32,100 --> 02:11:33,100
Our most precious natural resources are

2649
02:11:33,100 --> 02:11:36,100
clean air and safe drinking water, Not

2650
02:11:36,100 --> 02:11:40,201
Rare earth minerals and not data. The

2651
02:11:42,100 --> 02:11:43,100
decisions that you make regarding data

2652
02:11:43,100 --> 02:11:44,100
centers will have ramifications for

2653
02:11:44,100 --> 02:11:47,100
decades. MostPossibly, I'm sorry, many

2654
02:11:50,100 --> 02:11:51,100
possibly most of the people that will

2655
02:11:51,100 --> 02:11:54,100
be adversely affectedIf data centers

2656
02:11:54,100 --> 02:11:55,100
are allowed to litter Frederick County

2657
02:11:55,100 --> 02:11:58,100
aren't even born yet.You have a

2658
02:11:58,100 --> 02:11:59,100
gigantic responsibility on your

2659
02:11:59,100 --> 02:12:01,100
shoulders, There will be no turning

2660
02:12:01,100 --> 02:12:03,100
back. Thank you.

2661
02:12:06,100 --> 02:12:07,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

2662
02:12:07,100 --> 02:12:10,100
>>Kathleen Cargill followed by Kurt

2663
02:12:11,100 --> 02:12:13,100
Krieger.

2664
02:12:15,100 --> 02:12:16,100
>>Hi, name is Kathleen Cargill, I live

2665
02:12:16,100 --> 02:12:20,801
inOh Becca. My question is why would we

2666
02:12:22,100 --> 02:12:23,100
put the health and safety of our

2667
02:12:23,100 --> 02:12:25,100
residents in jeopardyFor opportunistic

2668
02:12:25,100 --> 02:12:27,100
speculative investorsWith giant

2669
02:12:30,100 --> 02:12:31,100
monstrosities for which there is

2670
02:12:31,100 --> 02:12:34,100
undetermined need? Overcapacity of data

2671
02:12:34,100 --> 02:12:37,100
centers is a thing.These data centers

2672
02:12:37,100 --> 02:12:40,100
will probably be obsoleteWhen quantum

2673
02:12:45,100 --> 02:12:46,100
computing arrives, which is happening

2674
02:12:46,100 --> 02:12:47,100
before you know it and we are going to

2675
02:12:47,100 --> 02:12:51,201
do this for lower taxes. Really? What

2676
02:12:52,100 --> 02:12:55,100
price you put on environmental

2677
02:12:55,100 --> 02:12:56,100
degradation? What price you put on the

2678
02:12:56,100 --> 02:12:59,100
health of our community?I'm pretty sure

2679
02:12:59,100 --> 02:13:02,100
my electricity rates are going to rise

2680
02:13:02,100 --> 02:13:03,100
and eliminate any taxing that I

2681
02:13:03,100 --> 02:13:06,100
personallyWould benefit from from these

2682
02:13:06,100 --> 02:13:10,100
data centers.It certainly has in other

2683
02:13:10,100 --> 02:13:14,201
states.We live in a beautiful valleyAnd

2684
02:13:17,100 --> 02:13:19,100
you're considering destroying that with

2685
02:13:19,100 --> 02:13:21,100
giant buildings that are in every sense

2686
02:13:21,100 --> 02:13:24,601
of the wordFugly.Hit an emergency

2687
02:13:27,100 --> 02:13:30,100
situation for water, Who gets the

2688
02:13:30,100 --> 02:13:32,100
priority usage? The residents are the

2689
02:13:32,100 --> 02:13:36,201
data centers?Same question on energy?I

2690
02:13:40,100 --> 02:13:41,100
see they're trying to dress them up now

2691
02:13:41,100 --> 02:13:42,100
by putting some glass up there, I hope

2692
02:13:42,100 --> 02:13:45,601
that they addressBird strikes and they

2693
02:13:46,100 --> 02:13:49,100
do that put the dots on the glass so we

2694
02:13:49,100 --> 02:13:52,100
don't lose more birds of these things.

2695
02:13:52,100 --> 02:13:54,100
This is being built, it's a speculative

2696
02:13:54,100 --> 02:13:58,201
thing on spec.I find that problematic.

2697
02:14:00,100 --> 02:14:01,100
Thanks for your time.

2698
02:14:01,100 --> 02:14:03,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

2699
02:14:09,100 --> 02:14:10,100
>>Kirk Krieger followed by Steve

2700
02:14:10,100 --> 02:14:11,100
Callahan.

2701
02:14:11,100 --> 02:14:14,601
>>At evening. Members of the commission

2702
02:14:16,100 --> 02:14:17,100
, Sheriff Stowe, my name is Kirk

2703
02:14:17,100 --> 02:14:18,100
Krieger, I reside in the back Creek

2704
02:14:18,100 --> 02:14:19,100
District. I would like to speak against

2705
02:14:19,100 --> 02:14:21,401
the rezoned 04 26, the primary

2706
02:14:25,100 --> 02:14:26,100
disqualifying issue of Virginia

2707
02:14:26,100 --> 02:14:27,100
technology Park in my professional

2708
02:14:27,100 --> 02:14:30,100
opinion are the planned 280 acres of

2709
02:14:30,100 --> 02:14:31,100
fire generators which are intended for

2710
02:14:31,100 --> 02:14:34,100
emergency power supply. The applicant

2711
02:14:34,100 --> 02:14:35,100
was indecisive at the planning

2712
02:14:35,100 --> 02:14:38,100
commission meeting, the work session on

2713
02:14:38,100 --> 02:14:39,100
May 5 where they stated generators may

2714
02:14:39,100 --> 02:14:42,601
beDiesel or natural gas. The final 10

2715
02:14:44,100 --> 02:14:47,100
on application concluded that a 36 inch

2716
02:14:47,100 --> 02:14:48,100
natural gas pipeline would be required

2717
02:14:48,100 --> 02:14:49,100
to serve the project. Therefore the

2718
02:14:49,100 --> 02:14:51,401
applicantEvidently for cost and

2719
02:15:01,100 --> 02:15:02,100
convenience selected the least cost

2720
02:15:02,100 --> 02:15:03,100
option. Let me repeat, for short-term

2721
02:15:03,100 --> 02:15:04,100
cost and convenience the applicant has

2722
02:15:04,100 --> 02:15:05,100
selected the dirtiest fuel source

2723
02:15:05,100 --> 02:15:06,100
available. FurthermoreThe applicant has

2724
02:15:06,100 --> 02:15:07,100
stated their intention to deploy tier

2725
02:15:07,100 --> 02:15:09,100
for generatorsWhich according to

2726
02:15:09,100 --> 02:15:10,100
Virginia state law just enacted is the

2727
02:15:10,100 --> 02:15:12,100
only optionAvailable after July 1 of

2728
02:15:12,100 --> 02:15:16,201
2026. HER2- cannot be used. The proper

2729
02:15:17,100 --> 02:15:20,100
is no meaning. Diesel and to a lesser

2730
02:15:20,100 --> 02:15:21,100
extent national gas generators are

2731
02:15:21,100 --> 02:15:24,100
known toAdmit particulate matter for

2732
02:15:30,100 --> 02:15:31,100
which there is no safe level of

2733
02:15:31,100 --> 02:15:33,100
exposure. It's 30 times smaller than

2734
02:15:33,100 --> 02:15:37,201
the human hair.In addition, not just

2735
02:15:40,100 --> 02:15:41,100
Monoxide or carbon monoxide are emitted

2736
02:15:41,100 --> 02:15:43,100
from diesel generators exposuresThe PM

2737
02:15:43,100 --> 02:15:45,100
2.5 can induce asthma, heart attacks,

2738
02:15:45,100 --> 02:15:47,401
stroke, lung diseaseAnd premature

2739
02:15:50,100 --> 02:15:53,601
death. Therefore the use of 280Diesel

2740
02:15:54,100 --> 02:15:55,100
fire generators will damage the health

2741
02:15:55,100 --> 02:15:59,100
safety and welfare of the residents of

2742
02:15:59,100 --> 02:16:00,100
Frederick County due to the effects of

2743
02:16:00,100 --> 02:16:02,100
air pollution, the cost of air pollution

2744
02:16:02,100 --> 02:16:05,100
Is conservatively estimated to range

2745
02:16:05,100 --> 02:16:07,100
From $525 millionFrom $525 million-$980

2746
02:16:08,100 --> 02:16:10,401
million, compare thatAgainst the

2747
02:16:11,100 --> 02:16:14,601
promise benefit. It's stunning. On this

2748
02:16:15,100 --> 02:16:17,100
basis, the rezonedHas been denied

2749
02:16:17,100 --> 02:16:19,401
because it'sInconsistent with the

2750
02:16:20,100 --> 02:16:23,601
NortheastLand use plan. It only agrees

2751
02:16:24,100 --> 02:16:27,100
to abide byVirginia law and does

2752
02:16:27,100 --> 02:16:30,100
nothing to mitigateThe quality. With

2753
02:16:34,100 --> 02:16:35,100
respect to the cost, who pays? The

2754
02:16:35,100 --> 02:16:36,100
county in the data center operator will

2755
02:16:36,100 --> 02:16:37,100
be liable for the costsThrough tort

2756
02:16:37,100 --> 02:16:40,601
claims filed by injured partiesAnd the

2757
02:16:41,100 --> 02:16:42,100
estates of people injured through your

2758
02:16:42,100 --> 02:16:43,100
actions and the operation of the data

2759
02:16:43,100 --> 02:16:46,100
center.There being between 350 and 450

2760
02:16:49,100 --> 02:16:52,100
Residential units within 1 mile, that's

2761
02:16:52,100 --> 02:16:56,100
a lot of plaintiffs for a lawsuit. It's

2762
02:16:56,100 --> 02:16:57,100
worthy to mention there is a school,

2763
02:16:57,100 --> 02:17:00,601
3.5 miles away and its similar modeling

2764
02:17:01,100 --> 02:17:02,100
done using the cobra EPA co-benefits

2765
02:17:02,100 --> 02:17:05,100
risk assessment modelShowsOf Plume, PM

2766
02:17:07,100 --> 02:17:10,601
2.5 can travel over 30 miles. It's not

2767
02:17:13,100 --> 02:17:14,100
going to be limited to the immediately

2768
02:17:14,100 --> 02:17:15,100
adjacent neighborhood, will affect many

2769
02:17:15,100 --> 02:17:16,100
people. Please consider denialOf this

2770
02:17:16,100 --> 02:17:18,100
rezoning request. Thank you.

2771
02:17:18,100 --> 02:17:20,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

2772
02:17:27,100 --> 02:17:30,100
>>Steve Callahan followed by David

2773
02:17:30,100 --> 02:17:31,100
O'Neill.

2774
02:17:31,100 --> 02:17:32,100
>>I appreciate your passion but every

2775
02:17:32,100 --> 02:17:33,100
time you clapYour delaying the next

2776
02:17:33,100 --> 02:17:35,100
speaker to come up, so please hold your

2777
02:17:35,100 --> 02:17:36,100
applause.. Who was it?

2778
02:17:36,100 --> 02:17:39,100
>>Steve Callahan followed by Dave

2779
02:17:53,100 --> 02:17:54,100
Willard O'Neill. Mr. O'Neill is here he

2780
02:17:54,100 --> 02:17:55,100
can go ahead.

2781
02:17:55,100 --> 02:17:56,100
>>Mr. O'Neill?

2782
02:17:56,100 --> 02:18:00,100
>>Good to see you again.All right,My

2783
02:18:00,100 --> 02:18:02,100
name is David O'Neill, I am a degreed

2784
02:18:02,100 --> 02:18:05,601
architectAnd engineer and I am an

2785
02:18:07,100 --> 02:18:08,100
author of the enterprise architecture

2786
02:18:08,100 --> 02:18:10,100
guide for the unified architecting

2787
02:18:10,100 --> 02:18:13,601
framework modern language which is the

2788
02:18:15,100 --> 02:18:16,100
industry standard here for this

2789
02:18:16,100 --> 02:18:18,100
business, a little higher than what

2790
02:18:18,100 --> 02:18:19,100
level these guys work at. I work as a

2791
02:18:19,100 --> 02:18:21,401
chiefEnterprise architectFor a major

2792
02:18:25,100 --> 02:18:27,100
Global real-time industrial controlAnd

2793
02:18:27,100 --> 02:18:30,100
telecom enterprise, One of the largest

2794
02:18:30,100 --> 02:18:33,601
in the world. Within that context,

2795
02:18:35,100 --> 02:18:36,100
hyper scale data centers such as

2796
02:18:36,100 --> 02:18:38,100
proposed here are but one element among

2797
02:18:38,100 --> 02:18:41,100
many otherComponents in that global

2798
02:18:44,100 --> 02:18:47,100
enterprise architecture. I worked on

2799
02:18:47,100 --> 02:18:48,100
Like the one I've worked on for the

2800
02:18:48,100 --> 02:18:50,100
last 34 yearsIncluding design,

2801
02:18:50,100 --> 02:18:52,401
deployment and real-time operations.

2802
02:18:54,100 --> 02:18:55,100
Within that context I can assure you

2803
02:18:55,100 --> 02:18:59,201
thatThe odds of any return on investment

2804
02:19:00,100 --> 02:19:01,100
By the County given the overall

2805
02:19:01,100 --> 02:19:04,100
lifecycleOf hyper scale data centers on

2806
02:19:04,100 --> 02:19:06,100
this particular region locationAre

2807
02:19:06,100 --> 02:19:09,100
extremely lowAnd likely toBe negative

2808
02:19:14,100 --> 02:19:15,100
in the long term. Sir County is a small

2809
02:19:15,100 --> 02:19:18,601
rural county. And its government are

2810
02:19:23,100 --> 02:19:24,100
easily overwhelmed by large hyper scale

2811
02:19:24,100 --> 02:19:25,100
data center operations, corporations,

2812
02:19:25,100 --> 02:19:27,100
It's our county, power and water

2813
02:19:27,100 --> 02:19:28,100
supplies currently stressed due to high

2814
02:19:28,100 --> 02:19:31,601
demand, The power grid provider, PGM

2815
02:19:34,100 --> 02:19:35,100
now down to about 16% on overall grid

2816
02:19:35,100 --> 02:19:37,100
marginDuring the blackout, rolling

2817
02:19:37,100 --> 02:19:40,601
blackoutsIn January, is an issue, the

2818
02:19:42,100 --> 02:19:45,100
county is undergoingA drought watch to

2819
02:19:45,100 --> 02:19:48,100
conserve water. Our Commonwealth of

2820
02:19:49,100 --> 02:19:51,100
Virginia has an abnormal and

2821
02:19:51,100 --> 02:19:53,401
disproportionateQuantity of the world's

2822
02:19:54,100 --> 02:19:57,100
data centers including the largest

2823
02:19:58,100 --> 02:19:59,100
grouping of hyper- scale centers in the

2824
02:19:59,100 --> 02:20:02,100
world. Their location in Frederick

2825
02:20:05,100 --> 02:20:06,100
County near these major fiber-optic

2826
02:20:06,100 --> 02:20:07,100
runs that go through, there's about

2827
02:20:07,100 --> 02:20:11,100
three or four major loops that have

2828
02:20:11,100 --> 02:20:12,100
Mashburn makes us susceptible to hyper-

2829
02:20:12,100 --> 02:20:14,100
scale data centerExploitation and

2830
02:20:14,100 --> 02:20:17,100
including the risk for national

2831
02:20:17,100 --> 02:20:20,100
security concernsSuch as terrorist and

2832
02:20:21,100 --> 02:20:23,100
military types of attacks, even

2833
02:20:23,100 --> 02:20:26,100
Non-terrorist as well.Hyper scale

2834
02:20:26,100 --> 02:20:29,601
operations need to beLimited, I remain

2835
02:20:32,100 --> 02:20:35,100
to national level preplanned locations

2836
02:20:35,100 --> 02:20:38,601
like Asheboro and Dallas, Los Angeles,

2837
02:20:39,100 --> 02:20:42,100
Chicago, these kinds of places, Denver.

2838
02:20:42,100 --> 02:20:43,100
This county needs to work with the

2839
02:20:43,100 --> 02:20:45,401
CommonwealthTo prevent Kuiper scale

2840
02:20:50,100 --> 02:20:51,100
data Explorer to rotation of rural

2841
02:20:51,100 --> 02:20:52,100
areas such as you've seen going on in

2842
02:20:52,100 --> 02:20:56,100
Oregon, Iowa, places like that, so data

2843
02:20:56,100 --> 02:20:59,100
centers consume huge amounts of power,

2844
02:20:59,100 --> 02:21:00,100
one hyper scale is going to take

2845
02:21:00,100 --> 02:21:02,401
equivalent of 17Frederick County's

2846
02:21:03,100 --> 02:21:06,601
combined, About a gigawatt for the

2847
02:21:08,100 --> 02:21:09,100
center, they must provide the power

2848
02:21:09,100 --> 02:21:12,601
source, Last comment is thatIt doesn't

2849
02:21:16,100 --> 02:21:17,100
matter you're dropping off this

2850
02:21:17,100 --> 02:21:20,601
substation off the 500Vote line, it's

2851
02:21:22,100 --> 02:21:23,100
part of the overall grid. So it will

2852
02:21:23,100 --> 02:21:25,401
impactThings regardless. Thank you.

2853
02:21:28,100 --> 02:21:30,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

2854
02:21:34,100 --> 02:21:35,100
>>Elizabeth mixer followed by Kathy

2855
02:21:35,100 --> 02:21:37,100
Weiss.

2856
02:21:45,100 --> 02:21:48,100
>>Everyone is touched on everything I

2857
02:21:48,100 --> 02:21:51,601
want to touch on, butThis will

2858
02:21:54,100 --> 02:21:55,100
reinforce my thoughts. Good evening, my

2859
02:21:55,100 --> 02:21:56,100
name is Elizabeth mixer, I live in

2860
02:21:56,100 --> 02:21:58,100
Frederick County. Therefore thousand

2861
02:21:58,100 --> 02:21:59,100
data centers in the United States

2862
02:21:59,100 --> 02:22:02,601
already. 737 of those are in Virginia.

2863
02:22:04,100 --> 02:22:08,801
That's a lot.We do not have the

2864
02:22:13,100 --> 02:22:14,100
infrastructure to support data centers

2865
02:22:14,100 --> 02:22:18,100
in our area, we are aYour drought, we

2866
02:22:18,100 --> 02:22:22,801
have been for a long time, we cannot

2867
02:22:23,100 --> 02:22:28,100
They use it to send it back and we have

2868
02:22:28,100 --> 02:22:29,100
to pay for fixing it we're going to

2869
02:22:29,100 --> 02:22:30,100
lose some along the way, you always do.

2870
02:22:30,100 --> 02:22:32,401
Shenandoah electricMakes its customers

2871
02:22:37,100 --> 02:22:41,801
use lower usage nowBe it hot or cold.

2872
02:22:45,100 --> 02:22:46,100
This would place a disastrous burden on

2873
02:22:46,100 --> 02:22:47,100
the system even if they increase the

2874
02:22:47,100 --> 02:22:48,100
infrastructure in their areaFor their

2875
02:22:48,100 --> 02:22:50,100
machines, It's going to affect the

2876
02:22:50,100 --> 02:22:53,601
whole system.A talking point is

2877
02:23:02,100 --> 02:23:03,100
increase jobs. During construction this

2878
02:23:03,100 --> 02:23:04,100
may be true for a short time. To run a

2879
02:23:04,100 --> 02:23:05,100
data center requires very little, it's

2880
02:23:05,100 --> 02:23:06,100
a bunch of machines. A few specially

2881
02:23:06,100 --> 02:23:07,100
trained maintenance workers for air

2882
02:23:07,100 --> 02:23:09,401
filtration and generator maintenance,

2883
02:23:12,100 --> 02:23:13,100
generators that create quite a bit of

2884
02:23:13,100 --> 02:23:14,100
disturbing noise 24 hours a day and

2885
02:23:14,100 --> 02:23:17,100
depending on how the wind blows I used

2886
02:23:17,100 --> 02:23:18,100
to live about half a mile from train

2887
02:23:18,100 --> 02:23:22,201
track andX miles from a shooting range

2888
02:23:23,100 --> 02:23:24,100
and if the wind was blowing right it

2889
02:23:24,100 --> 02:23:25,100
sounded like it was in my yard. A few

2890
02:23:25,100 --> 02:23:29,100
IT techs will round out the workforce,

2891
02:23:29,100 --> 02:23:32,601
Dave tax, Data companies already have

2892
02:23:35,100 --> 02:23:36,100
IT techs on their payrolls, they are

2893
02:23:36,100 --> 02:23:37,100
scattered all over. Since they work

2894
02:23:37,100 --> 02:23:40,100
remotely from home, Microsoft has

2895
02:23:42,100 --> 02:23:45,100
announced it will be dropping itsAI

2896
02:23:45,100 --> 02:23:47,100
completely. They blew through their

2897
02:23:47,100 --> 02:23:50,100
whole annual budget in six months.It

2898
02:23:50,100 --> 02:23:52,100
turns out is less expensive to use

2899
02:23:52,100 --> 02:23:55,100
humans instead of AI. There seems to be

2900
02:23:55,100 --> 02:23:59,801
no further, No future in AI data centers

2901
02:24:02,100 --> 02:24:03,100
. Please do not be swayed by the $'s

2902
02:24:03,100 --> 02:24:05,100
planted in your heads by the equivalent

2903
02:24:05,100 --> 02:24:08,100
of used-car salesman.Data centers are

2904
02:24:08,100 --> 02:24:11,100
notWorth the destruction of water

2905
02:24:11,100 --> 02:24:14,601
resources, Power costs, damages to the

2906
02:24:15,100 --> 02:24:18,601
environment and cost of voters and

2907
02:24:19,100 --> 02:24:22,100
their families at any price. I leave

2908
02:24:22,100 --> 02:24:24,100
you good people with this final thought

2909
02:24:24,100 --> 02:24:26,401
, caveat emptor. Vote no.

2910
02:24:27,100 --> 02:24:29,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

2911
02:24:33,100 --> 02:24:36,100
>>Kathy WeissFollowed by Melissa Wolf.

2912
02:24:42,100 --> 02:24:43,100
>>Good evening, thank you for letting

2913
02:24:43,100 --> 02:24:44,100
me speak to you, my name is Kathy Weiss

2914
02:24:44,100 --> 02:24:48,801
, I am from Back Creek district, I will

2915
02:24:52,100 --> 02:24:53,100
be brief. My concern with data center

2916
02:24:53,100 --> 02:24:54,100
is written large is that land being

2917
02:24:54,100 --> 02:24:55,100
lost to the structures once

2918
02:24:55,100 --> 02:24:56,100
construction is underway or after they

2919
02:24:56,100 --> 02:24:59,601
are built, Technology changes with time

2920
02:25:00,100 --> 02:25:02,100
The building may become unneeded.

2921
02:25:02,100 --> 02:25:05,100
Ownership may change. What becomes of

2922
02:25:05,100 --> 02:25:08,100
the structure that's abandoned? How can

2923
02:25:08,100 --> 02:25:11,100
we reclaim the use of all the land

2924
02:25:11,100 --> 02:25:14,100
that's been sacrificed to the structure?

2925
02:25:14,100 --> 02:25:18,801
How can we make the land whole again?

2926
02:25:19,100 --> 02:25:20,100
Please factor this into your

2927
02:25:20,100 --> 02:25:21,100
consideration, thank you.

2928
02:25:21,100 --> 02:25:22,100
>>Thank you.

2929
02:25:22,100 --> 02:25:24,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

2930
02:25:29,100 --> 02:25:30,100
>>Melissa Wolf Burke followed by Aaron

2931
02:25:30,100 --> 02:25:31,100
Fox.

2932
02:25:31,100 --> 02:25:34,601
>>Hi, and Melissa workWolf Burke and

2933
02:25:42,100 --> 02:25:43,100
I'm written about Creek. I'm here

2934
02:25:43,100 --> 02:25:44,100
because of my concerns about data

2935
02:25:44,100 --> 02:25:45,100
center development in Frederick County.

2936
02:25:45,100 --> 02:25:46,100
My husband and I moved here 27 years

2937
02:25:46,100 --> 02:25:47,100
ago and have worked here and created a

2938
02:25:47,100 --> 02:25:48,100
life in this wonderful county,

2939
02:25:48,100 --> 02:25:49,100
primarily rural and historic. I love

2940
02:25:49,100 --> 02:25:50,100
being part of this county, this

2941
02:25:50,100 --> 02:25:51,100
community. While change is inevitable,

2942
02:25:51,100 --> 02:25:54,100
I urgeThe planning commission to offer

2943
02:25:54,100 --> 02:25:56,100
the residents of Frederick CountyThe

2944
02:25:56,100 --> 02:25:58,100
time and the means to identify other

2945
02:25:58,100 --> 02:26:02,100
ways to use the land without harming

2946
02:26:02,100 --> 02:26:03,100
our wells, our health, and our rural

2947
02:26:03,100 --> 02:26:06,100
areas. The data centers did not allow

2948
02:26:06,100 --> 02:26:10,100
the align with the conference a plan

2949
02:26:10,100 --> 02:26:11,100
for the county and urge the planning

2950
02:26:11,100 --> 02:26:13,100
commission to vote no. Thank you.

2951
02:26:13,100 --> 02:26:15,100
[ APPLAUSE ]Thank you.

2952
02:26:19,100 --> 02:26:21,100
>>Aaron Fox followed by David Dixon.

2953
02:26:21,100 --> 02:26:24,601
>>Aaron FoxBack with the district, you

2954
02:26:25,100 --> 02:26:26,100
have a lot on your plate, I appreciate

2955
02:26:26,100 --> 02:26:28,100
you takingThe time to consider all the

2956
02:26:28,100 --> 02:26:31,100
facets of this. FrederickCounty is at a

2957
02:26:31,100 --> 02:26:33,401
crucial crossroads, threeOur proposed

2958
02:26:36,100 --> 02:26:39,100
that would change our county.Changing

2959
02:26:39,100 --> 02:26:42,100
to this zone will set a precedent. As

2960
02:26:42,100 --> 02:26:43,100
one of the most robust counties in the

2961
02:26:43,100 --> 02:26:47,801
stateIt can set an example for the hold

2962
02:26:51,100 --> 02:26:52,100
Shenandoah Valley where data centers

2963
02:26:52,100 --> 02:26:53,100
are being proposed. I think it's easy

2964
02:26:53,100 --> 02:26:58,401
to get stuck in the details to see if

2965
02:26:59,100 --> 02:27:00,100
Aspects can be mitigated enough. But

2966
02:27:00,100 --> 02:27:01,100
does this even align with our comp

2967
02:27:01,100 --> 02:27:05,100
plan? The plan for this area states

2968
02:27:05,100 --> 02:27:06,100
uses which significantly contribute to

2969
02:27:06,100 --> 02:27:07,100
air noise and light pollution are

2970
02:27:07,100 --> 02:27:08,100
discouraged in these areas,". This is

2971
02:27:08,100 --> 02:27:11,100
likely becausePrivate homes. An air

2972
02:27:11,100 --> 02:27:15,801
pollution we live in a valley, a bowl.

2973
02:27:17,100 --> 02:27:18,100
The pollution doesn't dissipate as it

2974
02:27:18,100 --> 02:27:19,100
does elsewhere, ask anybody here with

2975
02:27:19,100 --> 02:27:22,601
allergies. As for noise, Has anybody

2976
02:27:23,100 --> 02:27:24,100
studied the existing data centers to

2977
02:27:24,100 --> 02:27:27,100
discover all the low-frequency noise or

2978
02:27:27,100 --> 02:27:30,601
is based on hypothetical models? This

2979
02:27:31,100 --> 02:27:32,100
area is labeled to become mixed use for

2980
02:27:32,100 --> 02:27:34,100
future use, however the comp plan has

2981
02:27:34,100 --> 02:27:35,100
additional guidelines for development.

2982
02:27:35,100 --> 02:27:37,100
It breeds the quote should County

2983
02:27:37,100 --> 02:27:40,100
should be proactive in showing the

2984
02:27:40,100 --> 02:27:44,201
resources necessary or planned for in a

2985
02:27:47,100 --> 02:27:48,100
viable way. There's a finite capacity

2986
02:27:48,100 --> 02:27:49,100
of these resources that must be managed

2987
02:27:49,100 --> 02:27:51,100
accordingly. The electric commands

2988
02:27:51,100 --> 02:27:52,100
alone make this proposal deviate from

2989
02:27:52,100 --> 02:27:53,100
the comp plan. Virginia already imports

2990
02:27:53,100 --> 02:27:55,100
more energyIn every other state except

2991
02:27:55,100 --> 02:27:58,100
CaliforniaBecause of the data center,

2992
02:28:00,100 --> 02:28:01,100
Our grid has become vulnerable and

2993
02:28:01,100 --> 02:28:03,100
costs arising. They are waiting for new

2994
02:28:03,100 --> 02:28:06,100
transition lines to provide power. If

2995
02:28:06,100 --> 02:28:10,100
we add to this region, we are

2996
02:28:10,100 --> 02:28:11,100
proactively ensuring resources are

2997
02:28:11,100 --> 02:28:13,100
managed accordingly.Here's some comp

2998
02:28:13,100 --> 02:28:16,100
plan statements on tourism.First

2999
02:28:21,100 --> 02:28:22,100
impressions often set the tone for

3000
02:28:22,100 --> 02:28:23,100
visitors experience. The character of

3001
02:28:23,100 --> 02:28:24,100
the entrance corridors is a key factor

3002
02:28:24,100 --> 02:28:25,100
for the visitors experience in their

3003
02:28:25,100 --> 02:28:28,601
decision to stay longer and hopefully

3004
02:28:31,100 --> 02:28:32,100
return. Enhancing the aesthetics will

3005
02:28:32,100 --> 02:28:33,100
improve impressions that will benefit

3006
02:28:33,100 --> 02:28:34,100
the quality of life for residents.

3007
02:28:34,100 --> 02:28:35,100
Quote two, the goal will be to enhance

3008
02:28:35,100 --> 02:28:38,100
visitor experience.Quote three, it is

3009
02:28:38,100 --> 02:28:41,100
critical to be capitalize onGrowth.

3010
02:28:41,100 --> 02:28:44,601
These buildings will be tall, the

3011
02:28:45,100 --> 02:28:46,100
substations will be looming, will be

3012
02:28:46,100 --> 02:28:49,100
will what you see when you first enter

3013
02:28:49,100 --> 02:28:52,100
Virginia. The first 20 years six

3014
02:28:53,100 --> 02:28:54,100
especially. Firms only go so far, they

3015
02:28:54,100 --> 02:28:56,100
have to go escrow. They can always

3016
02:28:56,100 --> 02:28:58,100
change your signed to VirginiaIs for

3017
02:28:58,100 --> 02:29:00,100
data centers. One last quote from the

3018
02:29:00,100 --> 02:29:04,201
comp plan, overall a sound office in

3019
02:29:07,100 --> 02:29:08,100
Development strategy will result in the

3020
02:29:08,100 --> 02:29:09,100
conservation of a variety of resources

3021
02:29:09,100 --> 02:29:10,100
and promote high-quality life for

3022
02:29:10,100 --> 02:29:13,100
citizens. Important guidelines in the

3023
02:29:13,100 --> 02:29:14,100
comp plan would have to be totally

3024
02:29:14,100 --> 02:29:16,100
disregarded to approve this proposed

3025
02:29:16,100 --> 02:29:18,100
use. Thank you.

3026
02:29:18,100 --> 02:29:19,100
>>Thank you.

3027
02:29:19,100 --> 02:29:21,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

3028
02:29:25,100 --> 02:29:26,100
>>David Dixon followed by Tammy

3029
02:29:26,100 --> 02:29:27,100
Canfield.

3030
02:29:27,100 --> 02:29:28,100
>>David Dixon, Stonewall district.

3031
02:29:28,100 --> 02:29:29,100
First of all, this is going completely

3032
02:29:29,100 --> 02:29:32,601
pendingWith the next fair energy because

3033
02:29:36,100 --> 02:29:37,100
They have got pending court battles all

3034
02:29:37,100 --> 02:29:40,100
over the country and as you all knowYou

3035
02:29:40,100 --> 02:29:43,100
are in this county too, and soIt might

3036
02:29:43,100 --> 02:29:46,601
not even go through anywaysAnd thenThis

3037
02:29:47,100 --> 02:29:50,100
right here, this is Google the data

3038
02:29:50,100 --> 02:29:53,100
centerIn linear North Carolina, they

3039
02:29:53,100 --> 02:29:56,601
are pulling fromThe Catawba River, I

3040
02:29:58,100 --> 02:30:00,100
think that's how you say it, and Lake

3041
02:30:00,100 --> 02:30:03,601
Norma Lake Norman, this was constructed

3042
02:30:04,100 --> 02:30:08,201
in 2008And this is only 60 acres, that

3043
02:30:09,100 --> 02:30:11,100
center going 60 acres and what they're

3044
02:30:11,100 --> 02:30:13,100
proposingIs 220 acresAnd then

3045
02:30:16,100 --> 02:30:19,100
>>You're supposed to be addressingI'm

3046
02:30:22,100 --> 02:30:23,100
just looking at this, I'm not looking

3047
02:30:23,100 --> 02:30:26,100
at nobody else.923,000 gallonsAnd this

3048
02:30:29,100 --> 02:30:32,100
is just for 60 acres and they are

3049
02:30:32,100 --> 02:30:35,601
proposing 220 acres.So I would say

3050
02:30:37,100 --> 02:30:41,201
their little off on their math.And

3051
02:30:42,100 --> 02:30:46,201
hundred and 33 MW, A 900 MW.I'd say

3052
02:30:51,100 --> 02:30:52,100
they are a little off. That's it.

3053
02:30:52,100 --> 02:30:54,100
>>Thank you.

3054
02:31:08,100 --> 02:31:09,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

3055
02:31:09,100 --> 02:31:10,100
>>Tammy Canfield followed by Mark Steph

3056
02:31:10,100 --> 02:31:11,100
appear

3057
02:31:11,100 --> 02:31:12,100
>>I am Tammy Canfield from the

3058
02:31:12,100 --> 02:31:13,100
Stonewall district and I live about 2

3059
02:31:13,100 --> 02:31:14,100
miles as the crow flies from flying J,

3060
02:31:14,100 --> 02:31:15,100
and something my husband had to leave,

3061
02:31:15,100 --> 02:31:17,100
but he has sent me this, So what I

3062
02:31:17,100 --> 02:31:18,100
understand and I'm not very good with

3063
02:31:18,100 --> 02:31:20,100
math and numbers, but what Alexis said

3064
02:31:20,100 --> 02:31:23,100
was thatIt's about 30 dB higherThen

3065
02:31:27,100 --> 02:31:31,801
went flying J is, And so if I

3066
02:31:33,100 --> 02:31:34,100
understand this correctly, 30 would

3067
02:31:34,100 --> 02:31:38,100
make it 80, Flying J is 50 to 60, would

3068
02:31:38,100 --> 02:31:42,801
make it 80 to 90 dB. 90 dB is the sound

3069
02:31:44,100 --> 02:31:48,100
, Is a low sound of a rock concert,So

3070
02:31:48,100 --> 02:31:52,100
just imagine that right nowAnd when I

3071
02:31:52,100 --> 02:31:53,100
go outside, especially at night, I hear

3072
02:31:53,100 --> 02:31:57,201
the quarry running. I hear anyone and

3073
02:32:03,100 --> 02:32:04,100
we are down by the OPEC and, which is

3074
02:32:04,100 --> 02:32:05,100
drying up, by the way, I know they said

3075
02:32:05,100 --> 02:32:06,100
they were going to do any land water

3076
02:32:06,100 --> 02:32:09,100
groundwater. So anyways, just wanted to

3077
02:32:09,100 --> 02:32:13,100
make mention of that and the soundI

3078
02:32:13,100 --> 02:32:15,100
think it would be like wearing a

3079
02:32:15,100 --> 02:32:17,100
concert, hearing that. Also I am very

3080
02:32:17,100 --> 02:32:20,601
scattered personWhen I write my notes.

3081
02:32:23,100 --> 02:32:24,100
We are, and I appreciate, I don't have

3082
02:32:24,100 --> 02:32:26,100
any degrees, but I do a lot of reading

3083
02:32:26,100 --> 02:32:30,801
On health and try to eat healthy and

3084
02:32:33,100 --> 02:32:34,100
Alpha gal, so the six are really

3085
02:32:34,100 --> 02:32:38,201
attacking me, needless to say, we are

3086
02:32:40,100 --> 02:32:41,100
surrounded by 5G towers, I'm not sure

3087
02:32:41,100 --> 02:32:42,100
if you guys were the ones that approved

3088
02:32:42,100 --> 02:32:45,100
that are not, ButSo that has a lot of

3089
02:32:45,100 --> 02:32:47,100
EMF and then we are going to have these

3090
02:32:47,100 --> 02:32:51,100
data centers and that has a lot of EMF

3091
02:32:51,100 --> 02:32:52,100
and the nurses spoke really well to

3092
02:32:52,100 --> 02:32:55,100
that. These are all attacks on our

3093
02:32:55,100 --> 02:32:56,100
health, tax on our cognition, tacked on

3094
02:32:56,100 --> 02:33:00,100
ourEverything and so the moreWe let in,

3095
02:33:00,100 --> 02:33:04,801
the moreAll we have is our health. We

3096
02:33:06,100 --> 02:33:07,100
don't have our houses because the

3097
02:33:07,100 --> 02:33:08,100
government owns that because we have

3098
02:33:08,100 --> 02:33:10,100
pay taxes. Anyways,Also, these data

3099
02:33:10,100 --> 02:33:14,801
centers, I don't know if you know the 3

3100
02:33:16,100 --> 02:33:17,100
mile Island in Pennsylvania, they

3101
02:33:17,100 --> 02:33:20,100
re-firedThe nuclear plant that melted

3102
02:33:21,100 --> 02:33:24,100
down when I was a kidIn Amazon in China

3103
02:33:24,100 --> 02:33:26,100
Are using thatTo fire up their data

3104
02:33:26,100 --> 02:33:30,801
center, So I am very curious to know

3105
02:33:33,100 --> 02:33:34,100
who owns this company, who is funding

3106
02:33:34,100 --> 02:33:37,601
this company, is getting the dataFrom

3107
02:33:38,100 --> 02:33:39,100
this company, because like the one lady

3108
02:33:39,100 --> 02:33:43,100
said yes, it is a surveillance stateAnd

3109
02:33:43,100 --> 02:33:44,100
we already know how Amazon listens to

3110
02:33:44,100 --> 02:33:45,100
the Alexis stuff and writes everything

3111
02:33:45,100 --> 02:33:49,100
down, We also know China is our enemy

3112
02:33:49,100 --> 02:33:52,100
and China's behind the 5GCollecting

3113
02:33:52,100 --> 02:33:56,201
data from the fiveThe nap. Now they

3114
02:33:58,100 --> 02:33:59,100
will be connecting it from the data

3115
02:33:59,100 --> 02:34:00,100
center. I think we need to stand up to

3116
02:34:00,100 --> 02:34:03,100
our enemies,InterestMost important thing

3117
02:34:04,100 --> 02:34:07,100
And data centers are not in human

3118
02:34:07,100 --> 02:34:09,100
interest, therefore AI.

3119
02:34:09,100 --> 02:34:11,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

3120
02:34:13,100 --> 02:34:14,100
>>Mark Stemple of followed by Bob her.

3121
02:34:14,100 --> 02:34:18,201
>>I am Mark Stepford in the district

3122
02:34:22,100 --> 02:34:23,100
it's past my bedtime so I am a little

3123
02:34:23,100 --> 02:34:24,100
concerned about that. I know you fine

3124
02:34:24,100 --> 02:34:27,100
gentlemen and ladies are doing this job

3125
02:34:27,100 --> 02:34:30,100
For practically no pay, you care about

3126
02:34:30,100 --> 02:34:31,100
the county, I believe that, I believe

3127
02:34:31,100 --> 02:34:33,100
you will do. I think the problem here

3128
02:34:33,100 --> 02:34:37,100
is just allow me to tell a story, my

3129
02:34:37,100 --> 02:34:39,100
wife and I were living in mid 90sIn

3130
02:34:39,100 --> 02:34:42,100
Asberry and one day we getA thing like

3131
02:34:42,100 --> 02:34:45,601
this happens. WorldCom brought in the

3132
02:34:54,100 --> 02:34:58,201
fiber.Once bringing in the fiber the

3133
02:35:04,100 --> 02:35:05,100
Power falls, then after that these

3134
02:35:05,100 --> 02:35:06,100
gentlemen right here, new people, they

3135
02:35:06,100 --> 02:35:07,100
are just doing their job, making money,

3136
02:35:07,100 --> 02:35:08,100
making good money, I'm sure, they came

3137
02:35:08,100 --> 02:35:11,601
to givePresentation just like this. We

3138
02:35:14,100 --> 02:35:15,100
are sure you. The berm is gonna be

3139
02:35:15,100 --> 02:35:16,100
wonderful. Everything is wonderful.

3140
02:35:16,100 --> 02:35:17,100
Nothing was wonderful. Berm didn't

3141
02:35:17,100 --> 02:35:21,201
happen, They cut down all the trees,

3142
02:35:22,100 --> 02:35:23,100
It's a drip drip drip, over 25 years,

3143
02:35:23,100 --> 02:35:26,601
we lived there, came hereIn 2020Because

3144
02:35:28,100 --> 02:35:29,100
we are surrounded by data centers, the

3145
02:35:29,100 --> 02:35:32,100
noise literally driving people insane

3146
02:35:33,100 --> 02:35:34,100
in their homes, their having mental

3147
02:35:34,100 --> 02:35:35,100
breakdowns in their homes, they

3148
02:35:35,100 --> 02:35:39,801
couldn't sell. So once you,You are the

3149
02:35:42,100 --> 02:35:45,601
boardwalk. You hear the citizens. Is

3150
02:35:49,100 --> 02:35:53,801
there anybody for this year?You are our

3151
02:35:57,100 --> 02:35:58,100
representatives. We represent, you

3152
02:35:58,100 --> 02:35:59,100
represent us for the supervisors we

3153
02:35:59,100 --> 02:36:00,100
elect. And we are asking you to do your

3154
02:36:00,100 --> 02:36:02,100
duty, to listen and represent what we

3155
02:36:02,100 --> 02:36:06,801
want, not what, You have any idea how

3156
02:36:07,100 --> 02:36:11,801
many billions of dollars a year in data

3157
02:36:13,100 --> 02:36:14,100
centers these are going up for them and

3158
02:36:14,100 --> 02:36:15,100
we are going get peanuts. You want to

3159
02:36:15,100 --> 02:36:17,100
raise taxes, raise a couple of dollars.

3160
02:36:17,100 --> 02:36:18,100
We will pay another couple hundred

3161
02:36:18,100 --> 02:36:22,100
dollars. I don't need this,If you let

3162
02:36:22,100 --> 02:36:26,801
this go through, mark my words,It won't

3163
02:36:29,100 --> 02:36:30,100
be the first and will be the last,

3164
02:36:30,100 --> 02:36:32,100
there will be endless data centers.

3165
02:36:32,100 --> 02:36:33,100
Once the fiber comes in, power comes in

3166
02:36:33,100 --> 02:36:36,601
, it's game over.The money, corrupts.

3167
02:36:44,100 --> 02:36:45,100
And so this is what I'm asking you

3168
02:36:45,100 --> 02:36:46,100
gentlemen and ladies to do, your job.

3169
02:36:46,100 --> 02:36:47,100
Represent the citizens of this county

3170
02:36:47,100 --> 02:36:50,100
And do your job. Thank you.

3171
02:36:50,100 --> 02:36:54,201
[ APPLAUSE ]I met Bob curd followed by

3172
02:36:57,100 --> 02:36:59,100
Julie Kern.

3173
02:37:00,100 --> 02:37:03,100
>>Yes, I am Bob occurred, I am a

3174
02:37:03,100 --> 02:37:05,401
licensed civil engineer. My

3175
02:37:06,100 --> 02:37:09,601
undergraduate degree is from MIT. After

3176
02:37:10,100 --> 02:37:13,601
MIT I went to VietnamAnd silver

3177
02:37:16,100 --> 02:37:19,100
phantoms, hundred 80 combat missions.I

3178
02:37:24,100 --> 02:37:25,100
would like to share specific concerns

3179
02:37:25,100 --> 02:37:26,100
regarding building heavy AI centers in

3180
02:37:26,100 --> 02:37:28,100
our county.Has anybody here heard of

3181
02:37:28,100 --> 02:37:31,601
course?CarsOur form slowly by water

3182
02:37:38,100 --> 02:37:40,401
dissolving limestone and dolomite.

3183
02:37:41,100 --> 02:37:43,401
Underneath us right nowCaves,

3184
02:37:44,100 --> 02:37:47,100
underground flowing rivers and sinkholes

3185
02:37:48,100 --> 02:37:51,100
, especially near telephones.Most of

3186
02:37:52,100 --> 02:37:53,100
Frederick County is under relayed by

3187
02:37:53,100 --> 02:37:56,100
cars. Tonight the planning commissionIs

3188
02:38:03,100 --> 02:38:04,100
Building data centers over karst land.

3189
02:38:04,100 --> 02:38:07,100
It's not a good idea.Several of my

3190
02:38:07,100 --> 02:38:10,100
neighborsHave had slabs, concrete slabs

3191
02:38:13,100 --> 02:38:15,100
that their houses are built on SAG and

3192
02:38:15,100 --> 02:38:18,100
they had to have them repaired. I myself

3193
02:38:18,100 --> 02:38:22,100
OversawThe repair of a floor in a

3194
02:38:22,100 --> 02:38:25,601
factorySouth of here,The floor started

3195
02:38:29,100 --> 02:38:33,100
sagging, they had to raise it back up,

3196
02:38:33,100 --> 02:38:36,100
They pumped on plastic under it to

3197
02:38:36,100 --> 02:38:40,801
raise it back up.Google Earth shows an

3198
02:38:42,100 --> 02:38:45,601
enormousSink hole near my home. And

3199
02:38:49,100 --> 02:38:50,100
I've been watching over the years, even

3200
02:38:50,100 --> 02:38:54,801
though we are in a drought, Google Earth

3201
02:38:57,100 --> 02:39:01,100
Has pictures of the terrain.AndYou can

3202
02:39:01,100 --> 02:39:04,601
tell that this sinkhole, which is 150

3203
02:39:05,100 --> 02:39:08,100
yards in diameter, Has beenGetting

3204
02:39:11,100 --> 02:39:12,100
deeper and deeper over the years in

3205
02:39:12,100 --> 02:39:13,100
spite of the factThat we haven't had

3206
02:39:13,100 --> 02:39:17,100
much rain. There is a new map coming out

3207
02:39:17,100 --> 02:39:20,601
This month, they come outEvery June,

3208
02:39:23,100 --> 02:39:24,100
and we just had a lot of rain, it will

3209
02:39:24,100 --> 02:39:26,100
be interesting to see how much moreIt

3210
02:39:26,100 --> 02:39:30,201
has fallen.I noticed that the companyAs

3211
02:39:35,100 --> 02:39:37,100
a civil engineer, but they said nothing

3212
02:39:37,100 --> 02:39:39,401
about a specializedKarst geological

3213
02:39:41,100 --> 02:39:45,201
engineer.We have laws in this county

3214
02:39:46,100 --> 02:39:50,201
That sayA site has to beCheckedBy a

3215
02:39:54,100 --> 02:39:56,401
specialized Karst geologic engineer.

3216
02:39:58,100 --> 02:39:59,100
Next time I speak I will have a list of

3217
02:39:59,100 --> 02:40:00,100
those laws.Thank you.

3218
02:40:00,100 --> 02:40:02,100
>>Thank you.

3219
02:40:05,100 --> 02:40:07,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

3220
02:40:13,100 --> 02:40:14,100
>>Julie curd followed by Penny Smith.

3221
02:40:14,100 --> 02:40:15,100
>>I have to say I couldn't be prouder

3222
02:40:15,100 --> 02:40:18,100
tonightOf we the people of Frederick

3223
02:40:18,100 --> 02:40:22,801
County.This is amazing. All the rest of

3224
02:40:25,100 --> 02:40:28,100
this is absurd, Totally absurd, how did

3225
02:40:28,100 --> 02:40:32,100
this go this far as what I don't know?

3226
02:40:32,100 --> 02:40:35,601
How? Money.Money, money, money, and

3227
02:40:36,100 --> 02:40:38,100
it's got to stop. We can't take it any

3228
02:40:38,100 --> 02:40:41,100
longer, the people don't want this,

3229
02:40:41,100 --> 02:40:44,100
it's not good for us, We don't want it.

3230
02:40:44,100 --> 02:40:48,201
Sinkholes.On the line of Frederick and

3231
02:40:50,100 --> 02:40:53,100
Clark County, there was a littleModest

3232
02:40:53,100 --> 02:40:56,100
Ranch house, SinkholeWithin six months

3233
02:40:58,100 --> 02:41:02,201
the whole thing was in the ground.

3234
02:41:03,100 --> 02:41:04,100
These things do exist. This is not

3235
02:41:04,100 --> 02:41:06,100
make-believe.This happened here, it can

3236
02:41:06,100 --> 02:41:10,201
happen again, and we don't want it.

3237
02:41:13,100 --> 02:41:14,100
In summary, citizens know the harm of

3238
02:41:14,100 --> 02:41:17,100
data centers cause to their health and

3239
02:41:17,100 --> 02:41:20,601
livelihood. We also know now that

3240
02:41:22,100 --> 02:41:25,100
building over cursed land is unwiseAt

3241
02:41:25,100 --> 02:41:28,100
its best and actually very foolish. As

3242
02:41:28,100 --> 02:41:31,601
charged with decisionMaking by law the

3243
02:41:34,100 --> 02:41:35,100
local planning commissioners and Board

3244
02:41:35,100 --> 02:41:38,100
of Supervisors must doDiligence, you

3245
02:41:39,100 --> 02:41:43,801
didn't get it from them. They are lying.

3246
02:41:44,100 --> 02:41:45,100
I have brought up this very serious

3247
02:41:45,100 --> 02:41:47,100
concern tonightThat should warrant

3248
02:41:47,100 --> 02:41:50,601
disapproval of data centers. Know that

3249
02:41:53,100 --> 02:41:55,100
your approval and subsequent building

3250
02:41:55,100 --> 02:41:58,100
would destabilize water flowUnder our

3251
02:41:58,100 --> 02:42:00,401
landsAnd likely contaminate it.

3252
02:42:03,100 --> 02:42:05,401
Contamination would extendFor many,

3253
02:42:07,100 --> 02:42:10,100
many miles. We also have catastrophic

3254
02:42:10,100 --> 02:42:13,601
Thinking of heavy buildings. And, yes,

3255
02:42:16,100 --> 02:42:17,100
a yes vote by you to allow the data

3256
02:42:17,100 --> 02:42:20,601
centersWould be a grave insultTo the

3257
02:42:21,100 --> 02:42:23,100
land that is precious to us and to our

3258
02:42:23,100 --> 02:42:26,100
very lives. I would like to close by

3259
02:42:26,100 --> 02:42:27,100
reminding this board that you are not

3260
02:42:27,100 --> 02:42:31,801
hereTo what you think may be best for

3261
02:42:32,100 --> 02:42:35,100
Frederick County the entity, You are

3262
02:42:35,100 --> 02:42:39,100
here to protectWe the people. We are

3263
02:42:39,100 --> 02:42:42,100
Frederick County.You are elected

3264
02:42:43,100 --> 02:42:45,401
officials tasked with representingThe

3265
02:42:46,100 --> 02:42:47,100
will of the residence of Frederick

3266
02:42:47,100 --> 02:42:51,201
County, And we say no data centers.

3267
02:42:52,100 --> 02:42:54,100
Thank you.

3268
02:42:56,100 --> 02:42:58,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

3269
02:43:02,100 --> 02:43:03,100
>>Penny Smith followed by Kathy

3270
02:43:03,100 --> 02:43:04,100
Weinman.

3271
02:43:04,100 --> 02:43:08,100
>>Hello, I am Penny Smith. I worked in

3272
02:43:08,100 --> 02:43:09,100
collaboration with my engineer friend

3273
02:43:09,100 --> 02:43:10,100
and his wife and so I just did a couple

3274
02:43:10,100 --> 02:43:11,100
of things to add, the scene: Clark

3275
02:43:11,100 --> 02:43:14,100
County and swallow that house, it

3276
02:43:14,100 --> 02:43:18,100
happened when they put a well and. All

3277
02:43:18,100 --> 02:43:19,100
they did was drill a well and they

3278
02:43:19,100 --> 02:43:20,100
tried to take the water out and the

3279
02:43:20,100 --> 02:43:22,100
house filling the hole.Why you don't

3280
02:43:22,100 --> 02:43:26,201
buildOver karst land, first of all, is

3281
02:43:31,100 --> 02:43:32,100
highly discouraged by geologist, it's

3282
02:43:32,100 --> 02:43:33,100
not a good idea. The data centers are

3283
02:43:33,100 --> 02:43:35,100
too heavy, massive weight,They pump out

3284
02:43:35,100 --> 02:43:38,601
tons of waterBefore they do, everyone,

3285
02:43:40,100 --> 02:43:43,601
everywhere, they would pull water out

3286
02:43:46,100 --> 02:43:50,100
of the car's land flowing streams, caves

3287
02:43:50,100 --> 02:43:53,100
. The dewatering, the contamination, we

3288
02:43:56,100 --> 02:43:57,100
have building requirements to prevent,

3289
02:43:57,100 --> 02:43:58,100
we need to prevent sinkholes, but let

3290
02:43:58,100 --> 02:44:01,100
me move on to what I had to share. If I

3291
02:44:01,100 --> 02:44:02,100
can find it. I'm going to read the

3292
02:44:02,100 --> 02:44:05,100
second partOf mine because of time,

3293
02:44:05,100 --> 02:44:09,801
because I don't want that part cut off.

3294
02:44:11,100 --> 02:44:12,100
I am focusing tonight on sound, the

3295
02:44:12,100 --> 02:44:14,100
elephant in the room that they don't say

3296
02:44:14,100 --> 02:44:18,100
Is the word in for a sound. I fear in

3297
02:44:18,100 --> 02:44:19,100
for sound more than any other aspect of

3298
02:44:19,100 --> 02:44:21,100
data centers and you all read my letter

3299
02:44:21,100 --> 02:44:23,100
because I mailed it and emailed it. And

3300
02:44:23,100 --> 02:44:26,100
for sound is sound that's too low to

3301
02:44:26,100 --> 02:44:30,100
hear, it goes out in a 5 mile radius.

3302
02:44:30,100 --> 02:44:32,100
Imagine living 1 mile or two, imagine

3303
02:44:32,100 --> 02:44:35,100
being in school near the data center,

3304
02:44:35,100 --> 02:44:38,100
imagine your home also. 10 of the 19

3305
02:44:38,100 --> 02:44:41,100
schoolsIn Frederick County would be

3306
02:44:43,100 --> 02:44:44,100
within a couple of miles of the data

3307
02:44:44,100 --> 02:44:47,100
center. Data centers, They cause

3308
02:44:49,100 --> 02:44:51,100
vibration. Our internal organs vibrate,

3309
02:44:51,100 --> 02:44:55,801
our heart, our liver. True, no hype here

3310
02:45:00,100 --> 02:45:01,100
, our bony cavities vibrate, our skull,

3311
02:45:01,100 --> 02:45:02,100
eye socket, chest, I can't go to a rock

3312
02:45:02,100 --> 02:45:05,100
concert, I can'tHandle the subwoofer,

3313
02:45:05,100 --> 02:45:08,100
gives me chest pain. I can tell you one

3314
02:45:08,100 --> 02:45:10,100
hour exposed to in for sound causes

3315
02:45:10,100 --> 02:45:13,100
cardiac muscle to thickenAnd it causes

3316
02:45:13,100 --> 02:45:16,100
the artery, cardiac arteries to

3317
02:45:17,100 --> 02:45:20,100
thicken. This is dangerous stuff.

3318
02:45:20,100 --> 02:45:23,100
People complain of constant headache,

3319
02:45:25,100 --> 02:45:26,100
when your skull is vibrating. Nausea,

3320
02:45:26,100 --> 02:45:29,100
that's the vestibular system, severe

3321
02:45:30,100 --> 02:45:32,100
insomnia, dizziness, ill immunity

3322
02:45:32,100 --> 02:45:34,100
irritability, respiratory disease,

3323
02:45:44,100 --> 02:45:45,100
Mitochondrial disease, people move away

3324
02:45:45,100 --> 02:45:46,100
from dentate centers further than 5

3325
02:45:46,100 --> 02:45:47,100
miles, most of the symptoms abate. You

3326
02:45:47,100 --> 02:45:48,100
can have permanent mitochondrial

3327
02:45:48,100 --> 02:45:50,100
damage, like me following Lyme disease.

3328
02:45:50,100 --> 02:45:51,100
I wanted to say in conversations from

3329
02:45:51,100 --> 02:45:54,100
others aroundYou outside and play?

3330
02:45:55,100 --> 02:45:59,100
>>I don't want to, I don't feel good.

3331
02:45:59,100 --> 02:46:02,100
Sam lays down.Julie's mother.

3332
02:46:06,100 --> 02:46:07,100
(INAUDIBLE) exploded over a minor

3333
02:46:07,100 --> 02:46:08,100
thing. I don't know what's wrong with

3334
02:46:08,100 --> 02:46:11,100
them, he is so irritable.

3335
02:46:13,100 --> 02:46:14,100
>>Thank you.

3336
02:46:14,100 --> 02:46:15,100
>>Blood money. That's what it is, blood

3337
02:46:15,100 --> 02:46:16,100
money is money gained from an unknown

3338
02:46:16,100 --> 02:46:17,100
paid resource, it hurts.

3339
02:46:17,100 --> 02:46:19,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

3340
02:46:28,100 --> 02:46:29,100
>>Kathy one and followed by Mary Jo

3341
02:46:29,100 --> 02:46:31,100
Strobel.

3342
02:46:33,100 --> 02:46:36,100
>>Good evening, excuse me, my name is

3343
02:46:36,100 --> 02:46:39,100
Kathy Weinman, and I live inThe back

3344
02:46:39,100 --> 02:46:44,401
creek area.You know, I wish I had been

3345
02:46:45,100 --> 02:46:46,100
first because everybody said most all

3346
02:46:46,100 --> 02:46:50,100
of what I have to sayAnd they have said

3347
02:46:50,100 --> 02:46:51,100
it very well. So I guess I will just

3348
02:46:51,100 --> 02:46:53,100
reiterate., I, of course, have been

3349
02:46:53,100 --> 02:46:56,601
opposed to the data centerBecause of

3350
02:46:57,100 --> 02:46:58,100
the reasons mentioned, the negative

3351
02:46:58,100 --> 02:47:01,100
impacts of massive water usage and, of

3352
02:47:01,100 --> 02:47:04,601
course, the raised electric bills, air

3353
02:47:05,100 --> 02:47:07,401
pollution, noise, And environmental

3354
02:47:09,100 --> 02:47:12,601
concernsAnd with all due respectTo the

3355
02:47:15,100 --> 02:47:17,100
people that are hereThat are proposing

3356
02:47:17,100 --> 02:47:20,100
the data center, I really would like to

3357
02:47:20,100 --> 02:47:22,401
hear statisticsFrom an impartialParty

3358
02:47:27,100 --> 02:47:31,201
to compare.We have been told that

3359
02:47:34,100 --> 02:47:35,100
dating data centers bring jobs but of

3360
02:47:35,100 --> 02:47:38,100
course there only temporary because

3361
02:47:38,100 --> 02:47:39,100
it's only when the data centers are

3362
02:47:39,100 --> 02:47:40,100
being constructed. I found outTonight

3363
02:47:40,100 --> 02:47:42,100
that sometimes the data centers bring

3364
02:47:42,100 --> 02:47:44,401
in their ownConstruction cruiseTo

3365
02:47:50,100 --> 02:47:51,100
construct it. So they're not really

3366
02:47:51,100 --> 02:47:55,201
bringing us in jobs. The data centers

3367
02:47:56,100 --> 02:47:59,601
only really employ about 100 people.So

3368
02:48:03,100 --> 02:48:04,100
I suggest instead of building data

3369
02:48:04,100 --> 02:48:07,100
centers we need to invest in projects

3370
02:48:07,100 --> 02:48:08,100
that bring the most jobs with the least

3371
02:48:08,100 --> 02:48:10,100
impact on our recess, resources

3372
02:48:10,100 --> 02:48:13,100
citizens and land. We have rapid growth

3373
02:48:13,100 --> 02:48:17,100
in the area, Our infrastructure keep up

3374
02:48:17,100 --> 02:48:19,100
with the demand of new housing, New

3375
02:48:19,100 --> 02:48:22,100
businesses and data centers?You

3376
02:48:28,100 --> 02:48:29,100
probably noticed in your yard or your

3377
02:48:29,100 --> 02:48:30,100
neighbor's yard some dead plants

3378
02:48:30,100 --> 02:48:31,100
recently because of the drought. What

3379
02:48:31,100 --> 02:48:33,100
will happen if we have data centers and

3380
02:48:33,100 --> 02:48:36,100
experiences severe drought? Whose water

3381
02:48:36,100 --> 02:48:38,100
will be restricted, ours are the data

3382
02:48:38,100 --> 02:48:41,601
centers?The Shenandoah area is a

3383
02:48:44,100 --> 02:48:45,100
popular destination for escaping the

3384
02:48:45,100 --> 02:48:48,100
noise in conjunction congestion of city

3385
02:48:48,100 --> 02:48:51,601
life. Let's keep our rural areas

3386
02:48:52,100 --> 02:48:53,100
Preserve our farms and protect the

3387
02:48:53,100 --> 02:48:55,100
nature that are tourists and residents

3388
02:48:55,100 --> 02:48:57,401
Enjoy. Respectfully, please don't

3389
02:48:58,100 --> 02:49:00,100
Bedazzled by dollar signs. It will have

3390
02:49:00,100 --> 02:49:02,100
a negative impact if we have these data

3391
02:49:02,100 --> 02:49:05,100
centers come. God gave us this

3392
02:49:05,100 --> 02:49:08,601
beautiful area, Let's be good stewards.

3393
02:49:12,100 --> 02:49:13,100
Remember the Apple looks really good to

3394
02:49:13,100 --> 02:49:16,601
even look what happened with that.

3395
02:49:17,100 --> 02:49:19,100
>>Thank you.

3396
02:49:19,100 --> 02:49:21,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

3397
02:49:23,100 --> 02:49:27,201
>>Mary Jo Strobel follow by Pat Werth.

3398
02:49:29,100 --> 02:49:30,100
>>Hi, there. I will keep it short and

3399
02:49:30,100 --> 02:49:34,100
sweet. Mary Jo Strobel, I am upResident

3400
02:49:34,100 --> 02:49:35,100
of the Redbud district and I urge the

3401
02:49:35,100 --> 02:49:38,601
commission to deny the rezoning0426 for

3402
02:49:39,100 --> 02:49:41,100
the Virginia technology ParkOr at

3403
02:49:41,100 --> 02:49:44,100
minimum delay action until additional

3404
02:49:44,100 --> 02:49:46,100
information is offered from public

3405
02:49:46,100 --> 02:49:49,100
review. I'm concerned about unanswered

3406
02:49:51,100 --> 02:49:52,100
questions regarding the long-term

3407
02:49:52,100 --> 02:49:55,100
impactsOf this project on Federick

3408
02:49:55,100 --> 02:49:57,100
County residents, the resourcesIn the

3409
02:49:57,100 --> 02:49:59,100
infrastructure. As many have shared

3410
02:49:59,100 --> 02:50:02,601
today, noise remains a concern. The

3411
02:50:04,100 --> 02:50:08,201
impact on nearby homes and the health

3412
02:50:09,100 --> 02:50:10,100
of residents must be carefully

3413
02:50:10,100 --> 02:50:13,100
considered. Water usage and electrical

3414
02:50:13,100 --> 02:50:17,100
are two other major concerns, And I've

3415
02:50:17,100 --> 02:50:18,100
not been able to find any publicly

3416
02:50:18,100 --> 02:50:20,100
availableIndependent studies evaluating

3417
02:50:21,100 --> 02:50:24,100
the long-term cumulative impactsOf this

3418
02:50:24,100 --> 02:50:27,601
project on County water resources or

3419
02:50:28,100 --> 02:50:30,100
electrical infrastructure and

3420
02:50:30,100 --> 02:50:32,100
capacities.

3421
02:50:36,100 --> 02:50:37,100
I heard repeatedly this evening about

3422
02:50:37,100 --> 02:50:38,100
the current water capacity.The capacity

3423
02:50:38,100 --> 02:50:41,100
today, but I didn't hear anything about

3424
02:50:41,100 --> 02:50:44,100
the capacity during periods of drought

3425
02:50:44,100 --> 02:50:47,601
Or future growthGiven this state scale

3426
02:50:48,100 --> 02:50:50,100
of the proposed development and its

3427
02:50:50,100 --> 02:50:52,100
expected lifespan residents deserve a

3428
02:50:52,100 --> 02:50:54,100
more comprehensiveIndependent and

3429
02:50:55,100 --> 02:50:58,100
public analysisOf these impacts.The

3430
02:51:02,100 --> 02:51:03,100
rezoning would have long-term

3431
02:51:03,100 --> 02:51:04,100
consequences for our beautiful County

3432
02:51:04,100 --> 02:51:07,601
And its residentsAnd if it's technology

3433
02:51:08,100 --> 02:51:11,601
part is approved and developed the

3434
02:51:13,100 --> 02:51:14,100
impacts will be challenging if not

3435
02:51:14,100 --> 02:51:17,100
impossible to reverse for these reasons

3436
02:51:17,100 --> 02:51:19,100
I respectfully request the commission

3437
02:51:19,100 --> 02:51:22,100
deny rezoning or defer actionUntil

3438
02:51:23,100 --> 02:51:27,201
these issues can be more fully evaluated

3439
02:51:28,100 --> 02:51:29,100
and made available for public review.

3440
02:51:29,100 --> 02:51:30,100
Thank you for your considerationAnd for

3441
02:51:30,100 --> 02:51:31,100
your service.

3442
02:51:31,100 --> 02:51:33,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

3443
02:51:34,100 --> 02:51:37,601
>>At word followed by usually grow.

3444
02:51:43,100 --> 02:51:44,100
>>Thank you for this opportunity. I

3445
02:51:44,100 --> 02:51:46,100
would like to thankWyatt Pearson and

3446
02:51:46,100 --> 02:51:48,100
his team and I would like to thankThe

3447
02:51:48,100 --> 02:51:51,601
planning commission for all the work

3448
02:51:52,100 --> 02:51:53,100
that you are doing on our behalf

3449
02:51:53,100 --> 02:51:54,100
because I believe you do have our best

3450
02:51:54,100 --> 02:51:57,601
interest at heart. You might be

3451
02:51:59,100 --> 02:52:03,100
wondering why I brought this with me.

3452
02:52:03,100 --> 02:52:04,100
Several years ago, a very dear friend

3453
02:52:04,100 --> 02:52:07,601
of mineMoved into an over 55 community

3454
02:52:10,100 --> 02:52:13,100
In Prince William County.And there was

3455
02:52:13,100 --> 02:52:17,100
a decision madeTo build a data center

3456
02:52:17,100 --> 02:52:21,801
next to this community. I now live in

3457
02:52:22,100 --> 02:52:23,100
an over 55 community, but I will say

3458
02:52:23,100 --> 02:52:24,100
there are some of us who are we over 55

3459
02:52:24,100 --> 02:52:28,201
that live there, But I started doing

3460
02:52:29,100 --> 02:52:32,100
research to help her back thenLook into

3461
02:52:32,100 --> 02:52:35,100
all of theRamifications, all the

3462
02:52:36,100 --> 02:52:39,100
information available about data centers

3463
02:52:41,100 --> 02:52:42,100
. I love doing research, and I never

3464
02:52:42,100 --> 02:52:45,100
stopped because it kept getting younger

3465
02:52:45,100 --> 02:52:49,201
and bigger and more and more expanded

3466
02:52:52,100 --> 02:52:53,100
And I did live in Fairfax County for

3467
02:52:53,100 --> 02:52:54,100
almost 50 years and my husband and I

3468
02:52:54,100 --> 02:52:57,100
moved out hereAlmost 4 years ago, but

3469
02:52:57,100 --> 02:52:58,100
we had a business in Loudoun County for

3470
02:52:58,100 --> 02:53:02,801
over 20 years, So in all about the data

3471
02:53:03,100 --> 02:53:04,100
centers, but when I go back there now,

3472
02:53:04,100 --> 02:53:05,100
I don't even recognize what it looks

3473
02:53:05,100 --> 02:53:09,201
likeAt all.I have beenContinuing to get

3474
02:53:12,100 --> 02:53:13,100
Information on a daily basis from

3475
02:53:13,100 --> 02:53:17,100
around the countryAnd of course I am

3476
02:53:17,100 --> 02:53:18,100
keeping up with what's happening in our

3477
02:53:18,100 --> 02:53:21,100
own communityAnd I believe that you

3478
02:53:21,100 --> 02:53:24,601
have a very, veryImportant decision to

3479
02:53:25,100 --> 02:53:28,601
make that going to affect (INAUDIBLE).

3480
02:53:30,100 --> 02:53:33,601
And I truly believe that although

3481
02:53:34,100 --> 02:53:35,100
everyone is doing their best possible

3482
02:53:35,100 --> 02:53:38,100
job to give you all the information

3483
02:53:38,100 --> 02:53:39,100
that you need to make an informed

3484
02:53:39,100 --> 02:53:42,601
decisionI am standing here tonight to

3485
02:53:43,100 --> 02:53:44,100
tell you I don't think you've got all

3486
02:53:44,100 --> 02:53:47,601
the informationThat you really need to

3487
02:53:48,100 --> 02:53:49,100
make an informed decision. I think

3488
02:53:49,100 --> 02:53:51,100
you've heard a lot aboutWater, about

3489
02:53:51,100 --> 02:53:54,601
electricity, about all kinds of things,

3490
02:53:55,100 --> 02:53:56,100
but I have been looking at what's been

3491
02:53:56,100 --> 02:53:59,100
happening around the entireCountry in

3492
02:53:59,100 --> 02:54:02,601
the different situations that occur and

3493
02:54:03,100 --> 02:54:04,100
they occur frequently in different

3494
02:54:04,100 --> 02:54:05,100
places and you don't know what's going

3495
02:54:05,100 --> 02:54:09,201
to happenUntil it happens.And so rather

3496
02:54:12,100 --> 02:54:13,100
than getting into the details, but if

3497
02:54:13,100 --> 02:54:16,601
any of you wantAny answers, Any

3498
02:54:17,100 --> 02:54:20,100
questions answered, this is just a

3499
02:54:20,100 --> 02:54:22,100
teeny bit of the research that I have

3500
02:54:22,100 --> 02:54:25,100
on this from all over the country, And

3501
02:54:25,100 --> 02:54:28,100
I would respectfully requestThat you

3502
02:54:31,100 --> 02:54:32,100
vote no on this because I think that

3503
02:54:32,100 --> 02:54:33,100
there's a lot of information that you

3504
02:54:33,100 --> 02:54:35,100
don't have a handBecause you don't get

3505
02:54:35,100 --> 02:54:36,100
the whole entire picture although you

3506
02:54:36,100 --> 02:54:39,100
get a lot of itFrom the residents that

3507
02:54:39,100 --> 02:54:43,201
live here.AndThe PopeHas chimed in on

3508
02:54:45,100 --> 02:54:46,100
data centers.

3509
02:54:46,100 --> 02:54:48,100
>>Thank you.

3510
02:54:49,100 --> 02:54:50,100
>>Thank you.

3511
02:54:50,100 --> 02:54:52,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

3512
02:54:56,100 --> 02:54:59,100
>>Anjali Grubb followed by Ostertag.

3513
02:55:00,100 --> 02:55:04,201
Teresa, I think you can go ahead.

3514
02:55:16,100 --> 02:55:19,601
>>Hello, my name is Teresa Ostertag,

3515
02:55:22,100 --> 02:55:23,100
and from bad Creek, I'm going to be

3516
02:55:23,100 --> 02:55:24,100
speaking on the grid and power. The

3517
02:55:24,100 --> 02:55:28,201
grid isn't stable enough to do the

3518
02:55:29,100 --> 02:55:30,100
rapid growth of data centers,

3519
02:55:30,100 --> 02:55:31,100
currently, 85 data centers that are

3520
02:55:31,100 --> 02:55:34,100
already built cannot be plugged in

3521
02:55:34,100 --> 02:55:35,100
because there isn't enough power to

3522
02:55:35,100 --> 02:55:37,100
plug-in. The Navy currently will use

3523
02:55:37,100 --> 02:55:40,100
USS GeraldAre forward to power naval

3524
02:55:40,100 --> 02:55:43,601
station at Norfork, Showing the frailty

3525
02:55:44,100 --> 02:55:48,201
of our grid. In Lake Tahoe, California,

3526
02:55:53,100 --> 02:55:54,100
NV energy is giving the 50,000

3527
02:55:54,100 --> 02:55:55,100
residents there one year to find

3528
02:55:55,100 --> 02:55:56,100
another energy supplier. Why? Because a

3529
02:55:56,100 --> 02:56:00,100
data center wants the power.For one

3530
02:56:00,100 --> 02:56:01,100
data center alone in Coweta, Georgia,

3531
02:56:01,100 --> 02:56:03,100
Georgia Power, which is a very powerful

3532
02:56:03,100 --> 02:56:07,201
company, is using eminent domain to take

3533
02:56:10,100 --> 02:56:11,100
Their homes, demolish them and take the

3534
02:56:11,100 --> 02:56:12,100
land for at least 300 other homes and

3535
02:56:12,100 --> 02:56:15,601
property using eminent domain.All of

3536
02:56:16,100 --> 02:56:17,100
those houses and land will be forever

3537
02:56:17,100 --> 02:56:18,100
changed by just one data center. They

3538
02:56:18,100 --> 02:56:22,201
aren't even being paid what it's worth.

3539
02:56:23,100 --> 02:56:24,100
There are affected the most, fully

3540
02:56:24,100 --> 02:56:28,201
losing the sanctity and use of their

3541
02:56:33,100 --> 02:56:34,100
yards, patios, gardens, pools, acreage

3542
02:56:34,100 --> 02:56:35,100
care for chickens, cattle, goats,

3543
02:56:35,100 --> 02:56:36,100
people work their whole life to achieve

3544
02:56:36,100 --> 02:56:37,100
what they called the American dream,

3545
02:56:37,100 --> 02:56:38,100
their whole life with careful choices

3546
02:56:38,100 --> 02:56:39,100
and planning they have their paradise

3547
02:56:39,100 --> 02:56:42,100
but not enoughTime was spent on voting

3548
02:56:42,100 --> 02:56:44,100
and electing the right people. The

3549
02:56:44,100 --> 02:56:47,100
people that are electing may say, They

3550
02:56:47,100 --> 02:56:50,100
may say that the electric company, What

3551
02:56:50,100 --> 02:56:53,100
they did is not my fault. I say it is,

3552
02:56:53,100 --> 02:56:56,601
Cause and effect.In Virginia, Dominion

3553
02:56:57,100 --> 02:57:01,100
and Nextera him arts recently making it

3554
02:57:01,100 --> 02:57:05,201
more powerful. From what I hear next

3555
02:57:07,100 --> 02:57:08,100
year as a dirty company with lawsuits

3556
02:57:08,100 --> 02:57:09,100
across the country allegedly. Also the

3557
02:57:09,100 --> 02:57:12,100
battery storage, that's what you call

3558
02:57:12,100 --> 02:57:13,100
it, it's a battery hunted to help power

3559
02:57:13,100 --> 02:57:14,100
the grid. From one understand there his

3560
02:57:14,100 --> 02:57:17,100
thoughts all acrossThe county, future

3561
02:57:18,100 --> 02:57:22,100
homes and hubs.Get used to them being

3562
02:57:22,100 --> 02:57:24,100
built and run by private entities. The

3563
02:57:24,100 --> 02:57:28,201
battery life of seven years.Who will

3564
02:57:31,100 --> 02:57:35,201
decide the charges?Who will regulate it?

3565
02:57:40,100 --> 02:57:41,100
This is what we will be facing if you

3566
02:57:41,100 --> 02:57:44,100
let them in. Currently we have now been

3567
02:57:44,100 --> 02:57:45,100
billed for over $900 million in

3568
02:57:45,100 --> 02:57:48,100
transmission line costs being paid for

3569
02:57:48,100 --> 02:57:49,100
the residents of seven states,

3570
02:57:49,100 --> 02:57:52,100
Virginia, West Virginia,Ohio, Maryland,

3571
02:57:55,100 --> 02:57:56,100
Delaware, New Jersey. We are paying to

3572
02:57:56,100 --> 02:57:57,100
build these transmission lines and we

3573
02:57:57,100 --> 02:57:58,100
will both billing to maintain them and

3574
02:57:58,100 --> 02:58:00,401
overlie. CurrentlyElectricity went up

3575
02:58:07,100 --> 02:58:08,100
650 per 1000 kW. Maia went up $17. You

3576
02:58:08,100 --> 02:58:10,100
cannot protect us fromWhat they do if

3577
02:58:10,100 --> 02:58:13,100
you let them in. Data center charges in

3578
02:58:13,100 --> 02:58:16,100
addition, data center, There is an

3579
02:58:16,100 --> 02:58:19,601
amendment made by the governor, Oh,

3580
02:58:20,100 --> 02:58:24,100
crap. Anyway,There is a lot more, we

3581
02:58:24,100 --> 02:58:27,100
don't want to be in Loudoun County,

3582
02:58:27,100 --> 02:58:28,100
please listen to the county, we don't

3583
02:58:28,100 --> 02:58:31,601
want to change, and alsoWas the

3584
02:58:32,100 --> 02:58:33,100
calling, the conference a plan. You can

3585
02:58:33,100 --> 02:58:37,201
make changes, You can make this better,

3586
02:58:42,100 --> 02:58:43,100
The EDA strategy is currently not

3587
02:58:43,100 --> 02:58:44,100
working, please change the conference a

3588
02:58:44,100 --> 02:58:45,100
plan, please listen to the people, you

3589
02:58:45,100 --> 02:58:46,100
can make changes, Thank you.

3590
02:58:46,100 --> 02:58:48,100
>>Thank you.

3591
02:58:53,100 --> 02:58:54,100
>>:Tensely followed by Linds a says

3592
02:58:54,100 --> 02:58:56,401
delay. Linda says allay.

3593
02:59:10,100 --> 02:59:13,100
>>Hello, everyone.Hello, everyone.I

3594
02:59:19,100 --> 02:59:20,100
have been working pretty hard since I

3595
02:59:20,100 --> 02:59:21,100
got here, there a lot of people,

3596
02:59:21,100 --> 02:59:22,100
obviously, that are very concerned with

3597
02:59:22,100 --> 02:59:23,100
what's going on, So I missed everything

3598
02:59:23,100 --> 02:59:25,100
that they said.

3599
02:59:33,100 --> 02:59:34,100
Here's what I got. I am super concerned

3600
02:59:34,100 --> 02:59:35,100
about these data centers coming in, I

3601
02:59:35,100 --> 02:59:36,100
know that you all are going to be

3602
02:59:36,100 --> 02:59:37,100
passing out to the Board of Supervisors

3603
02:59:37,100 --> 02:59:38,100
whether or not you think they should be

3604
02:59:38,100 --> 02:59:39,100
Voting yes or no on this.I think it's

3605
02:59:39,100 --> 02:59:40,100
pretty obvious the answer is no. Big

3606
02:59:40,100 --> 02:59:44,100
points here, I don't wantUs center that

3607
02:59:44,100 --> 02:59:46,100
is going to have some billionaire

3608
02:59:46,100 --> 02:59:48,401
corporationsOr maybe some foreign

3609
02:59:53,100 --> 02:59:54,100
corporations coming in and collecting

3610
02:59:54,100 --> 02:59:58,100
our data and using it for God knows what

3611
02:59:58,100 --> 02:59:59,100
. It's not something I'm interested in,

3612
02:59:59,100 --> 03:00:00,100
and I don't think anybody here wants to

3613
03:00:00,100 --> 03:00:02,100
see any of that.Further, we have enough

3614
03:00:02,100 --> 03:00:05,100
Data centers and we have enough

3615
03:00:05,100 --> 03:00:07,100
Infrastructure that lets people use

3616
03:00:07,100 --> 03:00:10,100
Facebook and meta and Amazon as much as

3617
03:00:10,100 --> 03:00:14,801
we need, We can Netflix all day,No

3618
03:00:18,100 --> 03:00:19,100
problem. We don't need anymore. My

3619
03:00:19,100 --> 03:00:20,100
concern is, this is the thing that's

3620
03:00:20,100 --> 03:00:24,201
most pressing for me, Is that these

3621
03:00:25,100 --> 03:00:26,100
data centers are not really going to be

3622
03:00:26,100 --> 03:00:27,100
used to make our lives any better, but

3623
03:00:27,100 --> 03:00:31,100
instead they're going to be used to have

3624
03:00:31,100 --> 03:00:32,100
These block cameras placed in, they're

3625
03:00:32,100 --> 03:00:33,100
going to be microphones on them, these

3626
03:00:33,100 --> 03:00:35,100
already past things that are being used

3627
03:00:35,100 --> 03:00:38,100
in other places across the country. If

3628
03:00:38,100 --> 03:00:39,100
these data centers are providing the

3629
03:00:39,100 --> 03:00:43,201
brains, this technology can be run onOr

3630
03:00:44,100 --> 03:00:45,100
it can listen to anyone of these people

3631
03:00:45,100 --> 03:00:48,601
walking down the street, Talking to

3632
03:00:49,100 --> 03:00:50,100
each other and saying, you know, I

3633
03:00:50,100 --> 03:00:53,100
don't feel like the Board of Supervisors

3634
03:00:53,100 --> 03:00:54,100
is really listening to us. As the

3635
03:00:54,100 --> 03:00:58,801
market may you live? Is a keyThose data

3636
03:01:00,100 --> 03:01:01,100
centers can say tag Jack. What's in a

3637
03:01:01,100 --> 03:01:02,100
rowboat dog to his house.That's

3638
03:01:02,100 --> 03:01:05,100
possible. It's very possible and it

3639
03:01:05,100 --> 03:01:09,201
happens. You can look this stuff upIn

3640
03:01:10,100 --> 03:01:11,100
the US today. So I don't want to hear.

3641
03:01:11,100 --> 03:01:13,100
I don't want anythingThat is going to

3642
03:01:13,100 --> 03:01:16,100
allow that to happen to other peopleWho

3643
03:01:16,100 --> 03:01:19,100
are hereWith the freedoms that we are

3644
03:01:19,100 --> 03:01:23,801
supposed to have.Granted to us when we

3645
03:01:28,100 --> 03:01:29,100
have a representative democracy, when

3646
03:01:29,100 --> 03:01:30,100
people are standing up and saying hey,

3647
03:01:30,100 --> 03:01:33,100
we don't want this, we have thousands

3648
03:01:33,100 --> 03:01:34,100
of people signing petitions, people

3649
03:01:34,100 --> 03:01:35,100
here, is today Wednesday?On a Wednesday

3650
03:01:35,100 --> 03:01:39,801
night, I got work tomorrow, I have work

3651
03:01:42,100 --> 03:01:43,100
today, I called into work so that I can

3652
03:01:43,100 --> 03:01:44,100
plan around this entire event. It's

3653
03:01:44,100 --> 03:01:47,100
that important.I paid money to be here.

3654
03:01:47,100 --> 03:01:50,100
I rent to pay.I have to put food on the

3655
03:01:50,100 --> 03:01:53,601
table,And it's really impossible to

3656
03:01:58,100 --> 03:01:59,100
think about how we are even going to

3657
03:01:59,100 --> 03:02:00,100
get food from local farms and they

3658
03:02:00,100 --> 03:02:01,100
don't exist anymore because the data

3659
03:02:01,100 --> 03:02:04,100
centers have destroyed them.So I don't

3660
03:02:04,100 --> 03:02:07,100
want to come off as I am angry to you

3661
03:02:07,100 --> 03:02:11,801
all, you are the onesBoard to say no,

3662
03:02:12,100 --> 03:02:14,100
or we are going to replace them.

3663
03:02:14,100 --> 03:02:16,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

3664
03:02:20,100 --> 03:02:22,100
>>Lenses says valet followed by Amy

3665
03:02:22,100 --> 03:02:25,601
roach.No Linda or Amy? Amy.

3666
03:02:42,100 --> 03:02:43,100
>>Good evening, ladies and gentlemen,

3667
03:02:43,100 --> 03:02:44,100
my name is Amy roach, and I am a

3668
03:02:44,100 --> 03:02:45,100
lifelong residentOf the Shenandoah

3669
03:02:45,100 --> 03:02:48,100
ValleyAnd I live 2 milesFromWhere the

3670
03:02:50,100 --> 03:02:53,100
proposed data centers going to be, I

3671
03:02:53,100 --> 03:02:57,100
live at the foot Oaks across an open

3672
03:02:57,100 --> 03:02:58,100
Lord church, my husband is the pastor.

3673
03:02:58,100 --> 03:03:02,100
I am here tonight to strongly opposeThe

3674
03:03:02,100 --> 03:03:03,100
proposed Virginia technology Park data

3675
03:03:03,100 --> 03:03:06,100
center. This project would transform

3676
03:03:07,100 --> 03:03:09,401
220 acresOverall land into an

3677
03:03:18,100 --> 03:03:19,100
industrial complex consisting of data

3678
03:03:19,100 --> 03:03:21,100
center buildings substations and 288

3679
03:03:21,100 --> 03:03:22,100
diesel generators. That alone should

3680
03:03:22,100 --> 03:03:25,100
give us all pause.But what concerns me

3681
03:03:25,100 --> 03:03:28,100
most is the enormous demandThis

3682
03:03:29,100 --> 03:03:30,100
facility would place on our communities

3683
03:03:30,100 --> 03:03:32,401
water and electrical resources.

3684
03:03:35,100 --> 03:03:36,100
According to the application, this

3685
03:03:36,100 --> 03:03:37,100
campus would be permitted to use up to

3686
03:03:37,100 --> 03:03:40,601
120,000Gallons of water every single day

3687
03:03:41,100 --> 03:03:44,100
this representsA noticeable portion of

3688
03:03:48,100 --> 03:03:49,100
the county's total water demand. That

3689
03:03:49,100 --> 03:03:52,601
is over 43 million gallons of water

3690
03:03:53,100 --> 03:03:54,100
Every year while the applicant says

3691
03:03:54,100 --> 03:03:56,100
they will not use groundwater directly,

3692
03:03:56,100 --> 03:03:57,100
That water still has to come from

3693
03:03:57,100 --> 03:04:00,100
somewhereHere comes from resources that

3694
03:04:01,100 --> 03:04:03,100
serve our residents, our businesses,

3695
03:04:03,100 --> 03:04:07,201
Our schoolsIn the fix our growth. Is

3696
03:04:15,100 --> 03:04:16,100
our region continues to experience

3697
03:04:16,100 --> 03:04:17,100
drought, population growth and

3698
03:04:17,100 --> 03:04:19,100
increasing pressure and water supplies

3699
03:04:19,100 --> 03:04:20,100
is difficult to justify dedicating tens

3700
03:04:20,100 --> 03:04:21,100
of millions of gallons annually to a

3701
03:04:21,100 --> 03:04:24,100
data center operation. The electrical

3702
03:04:25,100 --> 03:04:26,100
demand is even more alarming, data

3703
03:04:26,100 --> 03:04:29,100
centers are among the mostEnergy

3704
03:04:38,100 --> 03:04:39,100
intensive facilities ever built. They

3705
03:04:39,100 --> 03:04:40,100
concern consume vast amounts of

3706
03:04:40,100 --> 03:04:41,100
electricity 24 hours a day seven days a

3707
03:04:41,100 --> 03:04:42,100
week. The reason the site was selected

3708
03:04:42,100 --> 03:04:43,100
is because it's next to major

3709
03:04:43,100 --> 03:04:44,100
transmission infrastructureAnd the plan

3710
03:04:44,100 --> 03:04:45,100
substation. That should tell us

3711
03:04:45,100 --> 03:04:46,100
everything we need to know about how

3712
03:04:46,100 --> 03:04:49,601
much power this project will require.

3713
03:04:50,100 --> 03:04:51,100
The result will be more pressure on our

3714
03:04:51,100 --> 03:04:52,100
electrical grid, more transmission

3715
03:04:52,100 --> 03:04:53,100
infrastructureAnd potentially higher

3716
03:04:53,100 --> 03:04:55,401
costsThat ultimately affect residents

3717
03:04:56,100 --> 03:04:59,100
and local businesses. These facilities

3718
03:04:59,100 --> 03:05:01,100
consume enormous amounts of powerBut

3719
03:05:01,100 --> 03:05:03,100
create relatively few permanent jobs

3720
03:05:03,100 --> 03:05:06,100
compared to theInfrastructure. We must

3721
03:05:15,100 --> 03:05:16,100
also consider the quality of life

3722
03:05:16,100 --> 03:05:17,100
impacts. Staff have already

3723
03:05:17,100 --> 03:05:18,100
acknowledged that even the proposed 60

3724
03:05:18,100 --> 03:05:19,100
dB noise limit represents a significant

3725
03:05:19,100 --> 03:05:21,100
increase overAmbient conditions.

3726
03:05:23,100 --> 03:05:24,100
Residents who chose to live here should

3727
03:05:24,100 --> 03:05:27,601
not be suspect soon, Frederick County

3728
03:05:29,100 --> 03:05:32,601
hasValued it's heritage and quality of

3729
03:05:39,100 --> 03:05:40,100
life, once this land is rezoned and

3730
03:05:40,100 --> 03:05:41,100
developed there is no going back. They

3731
03:05:41,100 --> 03:05:44,601
aren't making land anymore. We have

3732
03:05:45,100 --> 03:05:46,100
traded, we will have traded open space

3733
03:05:46,100 --> 03:05:47,100
and community character for a project

3734
03:05:47,100 --> 03:05:48,100
that consumesExtraordinary amounts of

3735
03:05:48,100 --> 03:05:50,401
water and electricityWhile providing

3736
03:05:57,100 --> 03:05:58,100
benefits to local residents. I urge you

3737
03:05:58,100 --> 03:05:59,100
to vote no and reject this rezoning

3738
03:05:59,100 --> 03:06:00,100
request. Thank you.

3739
03:06:00,100 --> 03:06:02,100
>>Thank you.

3740
03:06:02,100 --> 03:06:04,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

3741
03:06:05,100 --> 03:06:06,100
>>(INAUDIBLE) followed by Cynthia

3742
03:06:06,100 --> 03:06:09,100
Miller.No Elizabeth or Cynthia?

3743
03:06:24,100 --> 03:06:25,100
>>At evening. First wanted to say thank

3744
03:06:25,100 --> 03:06:26,100
you for your questions that you asked

3745
03:06:26,100 --> 03:06:27,100
the applicant last time, I was pretty

3746
03:06:27,100 --> 03:06:29,401
impressedWith your quick knowledgeAnd

3747
03:06:32,100 --> 03:06:35,601
care that you showedAbout this project

3748
03:06:41,100 --> 03:06:44,100
I've lived inFrederick County since

3749
03:06:44,100 --> 03:06:48,801
1988. Now I am back out in the rural

3750
03:06:51,100 --> 03:06:53,100
area which I like a lot. I moved here

3751
03:06:53,100 --> 03:06:57,100
to go to college at Chanel University,

3752
03:06:57,100 --> 03:07:01,201
a couple of degrees from there, andI

3753
03:07:03,100 --> 03:07:04,100
love it here, my family, I raised here,

3754
03:07:04,100 --> 03:07:05,100
my daughter has raised her family here

3755
03:07:05,100 --> 03:07:09,801
AndWe like the way it is. Not that

3756
03:07:14,100 --> 03:07:15,100
things are going to stay the same

3757
03:07:15,100 --> 03:07:16,100
because people keep moving here, not

3758
03:07:16,100 --> 03:07:17,100
that we have to respond to housing

3759
03:07:17,100 --> 03:07:18,100
demands from other counties, But I do

3760
03:07:18,100 --> 03:07:19,100
believe we need to maintain the rural

3761
03:07:19,100 --> 03:07:21,100
character. In fact, in our

3762
03:07:21,100 --> 03:07:23,100
comprehensive plan, we talk a lot about

3763
03:07:23,100 --> 03:07:27,801
that. I will just read you a short

3764
03:07:29,100 --> 03:07:30,100
quote, Frederick County's rural

3765
03:07:30,100 --> 03:07:32,100
character is a key componentIn its

3766
03:07:32,100 --> 03:07:36,201
identity and one of the key aspects

3767
03:07:37,100 --> 03:07:38,100
that draw visitors and new residents to

3768
03:07:38,100 --> 03:07:39,100
the area. Historically these rural areas

3769
03:07:39,100 --> 03:07:41,100
have supportedA wide array of

3770
03:07:41,100 --> 03:07:44,100
agricultural uses which at one time was

3771
03:07:44,100 --> 03:07:46,100
the primary industry in the county.

3772
03:07:46,100 --> 03:07:48,401
Today these agricultureAnd forestry

3773
03:07:52,100 --> 03:07:53,100
activities generate roughly $33 million

3774
03:07:53,100 --> 03:07:56,601
per year and preserve close to 110,000

3775
03:07:57,100 --> 03:08:01,801
acres of rural land. In fact, we gained

3776
03:08:03,100 --> 03:08:05,100
9000 acres between 2012 and 2017In

3777
03:08:05,100 --> 03:08:09,201
farmland.They provide some out of the

3778
03:08:14,100 --> 03:08:16,401
266,000 acres 243 are rural. That's

3779
03:08:19,100 --> 03:08:23,100
huge. Most of our county is rural. The

3780
03:08:23,100 --> 03:08:24,100
census determined that there was a 9%

3781
03:08:24,100 --> 03:08:26,401
increaseAnd farmland. No environmental

3782
03:08:30,100 --> 03:08:33,601
impact study is been doneWhat's going

3783
03:08:39,100 --> 03:08:40,100
to happen when you change this farmland

3784
03:08:40,100 --> 03:08:41,100
will to what I would consider heavy

3785
03:08:41,100 --> 03:08:42,100
industrial. It's not light industrial,

3786
03:08:42,100 --> 03:08:44,100
it's notTechnology, it's heavy

3787
03:08:44,100 --> 03:08:45,100
industrial, I've been doing a lot of

3788
03:08:45,100 --> 03:08:46,100
research like many of my otherResident

3789
03:08:46,100 --> 03:08:49,601
friendsAnd neighbors and we are finding

3790
03:08:50,100 --> 03:08:52,100
that there is a lot more to this than

3791
03:08:52,100 --> 03:08:57,100
we know about it.When you look at the

3792
03:08:57,100 --> 03:08:58,100
residential, the comprehensive plan,

3793
03:08:58,100 --> 03:09:01,601
there isNo mentionOf data centers, And

3794
03:09:06,100 --> 03:09:07,100
I know that's because it's been a few

3795
03:09:07,100 --> 03:09:08,100
years and this is been a big onslaught

3796
03:09:08,100 --> 03:09:10,100
It's occurred very rapidly but with the

3797
03:09:10,100 --> 03:09:13,100
current plan that's being developed,

3798
03:09:13,100 --> 03:09:15,100
maybe that's where we can set some

3799
03:09:15,100 --> 03:09:17,100
ground rules and slow this thing down a

3800
03:09:17,100 --> 03:09:21,100
little bit.Maybe by then we will learn

3801
03:09:21,100 --> 03:09:23,100
a lot more about data centers so that

3802
03:09:23,100 --> 03:09:26,100
we can prevent what's happening.I am

3803
03:09:26,100 --> 03:09:30,201
going to submit my comments in writing

3804
03:09:32,100 --> 03:09:33,100
to you just because I don't want to

3805
03:09:33,100 --> 03:09:34,100
repeat everything that everybody else

3806
03:09:34,100 --> 03:09:37,100
had said. Can I give that to you?

3807
03:09:37,100 --> 03:09:38,100
>>You can give it to Mr. Pearson.

3808
03:09:38,100 --> 03:09:40,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

3809
03:09:41,100 --> 03:09:43,401
>>Rynecki (INAUDIBLE)KC (INAUDIBLE).

3810
03:09:49,100 --> 03:09:52,100
Thank you.For McKay, planning

3811
03:09:57,100 --> 03:09:58,100
commission, name is Lenny sweet and I

3812
03:09:58,100 --> 03:09:59,100
am here in support of the data center.

3813
03:09:59,100 --> 03:10:00,100
The reality is data is modern

3814
03:10:00,100 --> 03:10:03,100
infrastructure. We use it to

3815
03:10:07,100 --> 03:10:08,100
communicate, we bank, we keep records,

3816
03:10:08,100 --> 03:10:09,100
we conduct business, the list goes on,

3817
03:10:09,100 --> 03:10:12,601
bottom line is dataIsn'tA lecturing, is

3818
03:10:13,100 --> 03:10:14,100
an integral part of life. I'll be the

3819
03:10:14,100 --> 03:10:15,100
first to admit I love data, change my

3820
03:10:15,100 --> 03:10:17,100
life. Previous generationsBuilt

3821
03:10:18,100 --> 03:10:21,100
airports, highways, power plants, our

3822
03:10:21,100 --> 03:10:22,100
generation is building data

3823
03:10:22,100 --> 03:10:25,100
infrastructure.With that being said

3824
03:10:27,100 --> 03:10:28,100
there's a few concerns, there's the

3825
03:10:28,100 --> 03:10:32,201
noise, their missions, The truth is the

3826
03:10:33,100 --> 03:10:34,100
site six next to a wet highway corridor

3827
03:10:34,100 --> 03:10:36,100
or service center, it is going to

3828
03:10:36,100 --> 03:10:37,100
produce just a fraction of the noise

3829
03:10:37,100 --> 03:10:40,100
it's already comeAn even smaller

3830
03:10:40,100 --> 03:10:41,100
fraction of the admissions being

3831
03:10:41,100 --> 03:10:43,100
admitted. Is it going to increase

3832
03:10:43,100 --> 03:10:45,401
significantlyWhat's already there? No,

3833
03:10:46,100 --> 03:10:50,801
it's not.The water, all the plans they

3834
03:10:52,100 --> 03:10:55,601
should be judged on their engineer

3835
03:10:56,100 --> 03:10:57,100
qualification, regulatory oversight,

3836
03:10:57,100 --> 03:10:59,100
I'm sure everybody can get along,

3837
03:10:59,100 --> 03:11:00,100
That's kind of out of my hands, I'm not

3838
03:11:00,100 --> 03:11:03,100
exactlyThe water engineer.Of eDOT's 2024

3839
03:11:07,100 --> 03:11:10,100
Figure for Interstate 81 Erickson 317 is

3840
03:11:14,100 --> 03:11:15,100
Thousand vehicles every day. 300

3841
03:11:15,100 --> 03:11:18,100
generators,That's like 0.75% of the

3842
03:11:21,100 --> 03:11:22,100
66,000 engines that are already passing

3843
03:11:22,100 --> 03:11:25,100
through that location.It's very

3844
03:11:33,100 --> 03:11:34,100
negligible. Commissions, not even close

3845
03:11:34,100 --> 03:11:35,100
to what's going on. Water needs to be

3846
03:11:35,100 --> 03:11:38,100
drainage runoff alsoTo be in

3847
03:11:43,100 --> 03:11:44,100
consideration. I love data, I love my

3848
03:11:44,100 --> 03:11:45,100
prime membership, these are also

3849
03:11:45,100 --> 03:11:49,201
integral parts of life.. Now the bigger

3850
03:11:52,100 --> 03:11:54,100
question isWhat are we going to do with

3851
03:11:54,100 --> 03:11:57,601
this land, Frederick counties land plan

3852
03:12:00,100 --> 03:12:01,100
is to industrialize, it's already on

3853
03:12:01,100 --> 03:12:05,100
the east, is coming down in the best

3854
03:12:05,100 --> 03:12:06,100
state case scenario, this land is never

3855
03:12:06,100 --> 03:12:10,100
going to be farmland again.Unlikely be

3856
03:12:10,100 --> 03:12:11,100
residential, it's not going to be a

3857
03:12:11,100 --> 03:12:14,100
nature preserveOr in the community

3858
03:12:17,100 --> 03:12:18,100
campus. Best case scenario is a

3859
03:12:18,100 --> 03:12:19,100
factory, maybe a truck terminal or a

3860
03:12:19,100 --> 03:12:22,100
data center. We've got ask ourselves

3861
03:12:22,100 --> 03:12:23,100
what is going to make the least amount

3862
03:12:23,100 --> 03:12:24,100
of traffic, what's going to generate

3863
03:12:24,100 --> 03:12:27,601
the most revenue?It's projected three

3864
03:12:30,100 --> 03:12:31,100
to $500 million over the course of its

3865
03:12:31,100 --> 03:12:34,100
life time, you got to think about the

3866
03:12:34,100 --> 03:12:36,100
six or seven icicles, the roads, the

3867
03:12:36,100 --> 03:12:39,100
aquatic center, Parks and Recreation,

3868
03:12:41,100 --> 03:12:42,100
future County investments. Beyond

3869
03:12:42,100 --> 03:12:44,401
direct revenue, future industries.

3870
03:12:48,100 --> 03:12:49,100
Artificial intelligence, cybersecurity,

3871
03:12:49,100 --> 03:12:50,100
cloud computing, software development,

3872
03:12:50,100 --> 03:12:51,100
digital media all on the rise, all

3873
03:12:51,100 --> 03:12:55,801
depend on data. Now not only will the

3874
03:12:58,100 --> 03:12:59,100
data center generate substantial

3875
03:12:59,100 --> 03:13:00,100
revenue but all the adjacent industries

3876
03:13:00,100 --> 03:13:03,601
it attracts generate more revenue.I

3877
03:13:04,100 --> 03:13:07,100
can't believe I ran out of time. But if

3878
03:13:07,100 --> 03:13:08,100
we want to think about investments for

3879
03:13:08,100 --> 03:13:10,100
the future where kids and grandchildren

3880
03:13:10,100 --> 03:13:12,100
Might pursue careers

3881
03:13:13,100 --> 03:13:15,100
>>Thank you.

3882
03:13:19,100 --> 03:13:22,100
>>KC (INAUDIBLE) followed by generals

3883
03:13:25,100 --> 03:13:26,100
Jennifer Smith.

3884
03:13:26,100 --> 03:13:27,100
>>Hi, guys, I am Casey, I am a

3885
03:13:27,100 --> 03:13:30,100
31-year-oldSingle mom, I knewRep for

3886
03:13:32,100 --> 03:13:33,100
jute refugee from Shenandoah County, I

3887
03:13:33,100 --> 03:13:37,100
just sold myTown House because they are

3888
03:13:37,100 --> 03:13:38,100
planning a data center right across the

3889
03:13:38,100 --> 03:13:41,100
street. So I moved to Stephen city and

3890
03:13:41,100 --> 03:13:45,201
luckily found somebody to buy my house

3891
03:13:46,100 --> 03:13:47,100
Before, unfortunately they realize

3892
03:13:47,100 --> 03:13:48,100
there's also a data center going to be

3893
03:13:48,100 --> 03:13:52,801
there.Which I thinkI want to point out

3894
03:13:53,100 --> 03:13:54,100
a point which I haven't really heard

3895
03:13:54,100 --> 03:13:55,100
anybody talk about which is the factOf

3896
03:13:55,100 --> 03:13:59,201
the heat also that these data centers

3897
03:14:01,100 --> 03:14:02,100
generate, they are running 24/7, 365

3898
03:14:02,100 --> 03:14:06,201
days and factories or even like houses,

3899
03:14:07,100 --> 03:14:08,100
The sun goes down, everything kind of

3900
03:14:08,100 --> 03:14:11,100
cools off, That doesn't happen when you

3901
03:14:11,100 --> 03:14:12,100
have a data center running all the

3902
03:14:12,100 --> 03:14:14,100
freaking timeAnd that he goes up, the

3903
03:14:14,100 --> 03:14:18,201
local data, I think it was service

3904
03:14:20,100 --> 03:14:21,100
temperatures around areas where data

3905
03:14:21,100 --> 03:14:25,201
centers are have risen 3.6 F to 60 F,

3906
03:14:27,100 --> 03:14:28,100
Locally around those areas, like your

3907
03:14:28,100 --> 03:14:31,601
kids playing outside, a 10-year-old son

3908
03:14:32,100 --> 03:14:33,100
And he loves to play outside and gets

3909
03:14:33,100 --> 03:14:35,100
all red-facedAnd that'sWith the

3910
03:14:35,100 --> 03:14:38,601
temperatures as they are now.SoIf

3911
03:14:42,100 --> 03:14:43,100
you're raising the local temperature,

3912
03:14:43,100 --> 03:14:46,601
anywhere from 4 to 60 in JulyBut it's

3913
03:14:48,100 --> 03:14:49,100
already 98 outside, I don't know any

3914
03:14:49,100 --> 03:14:52,100
10-year-old or adultWho can stand

3915
03:14:52,100 --> 03:14:53,100
outside in that temperature. That's

3916
03:14:53,100 --> 03:14:56,100
just insane we're talking aboutRaising

3917
03:14:56,100 --> 03:14:58,100
the electric bills may be even

3918
03:14:58,100 --> 03:15:00,401
indirectly, If it's 100 outside,

3919
03:15:02,100 --> 03:15:06,100
hundred and five, I am going to be

3920
03:15:06,100 --> 03:15:07,100
blasting the AC, we are all going to be

3921
03:15:07,100 --> 03:15:11,100
hot. My usage will go up because the

3922
03:15:11,100 --> 03:15:12,100
temperatures are going to be up

3923
03:15:12,100 --> 03:15:16,201
outside. The effectsOf heat on your body

3924
03:15:18,100 --> 03:15:19,100
, What it is that hot, I can have

3925
03:15:19,100 --> 03:15:20,100
effects on your cardiovascular, your

3926
03:15:20,100 --> 03:15:24,201
lungs, It's also not great in general.

3927
03:15:25,100 --> 03:15:26,100
I think that like I've seen a lot of

3928
03:15:26,100 --> 03:15:28,100
like generations older than mine,

3929
03:15:28,100 --> 03:15:29,100
there's not a lot of people my age here

3930
03:15:29,100 --> 03:15:33,801
but I thinkI just want to say that's

3931
03:15:34,100 --> 03:15:35,100
not to say that we don't care about

3932
03:15:35,100 --> 03:15:39,201
these things, but mostly just that I

3933
03:15:40,100 --> 03:15:41,100
talked to my friends all the time about

3934
03:15:41,100 --> 03:15:42,100
it, I am a dental hygienist, I talk to

3935
03:15:42,100 --> 03:15:43,100
patients about it and I think the

3936
03:15:43,100 --> 03:15:44,100
general theme that I get from people my

3937
03:15:44,100 --> 03:15:47,100
age, people in this area is that like

3938
03:15:47,100 --> 03:15:50,601
people just don't feel heard, it's

3939
03:15:51,100 --> 03:15:52,100
nothing I say is going to matter

3940
03:15:52,100 --> 03:15:53,100
anyways, they're going to chase the

3941
03:15:53,100 --> 03:15:54,100
money, they don't care, everything is

3942
03:15:54,100 --> 03:15:56,100
just about the money I feel like we

3943
03:15:56,100 --> 03:15:59,100
have an opportunity toInspire people

3944
03:16:00,100 --> 03:16:01,100
like Katie, it does matter, you can go

3945
03:16:01,100 --> 03:16:04,100
out, What you say, what you show up for

3946
03:16:04,100 --> 03:16:07,100
it does matter.But that's not going to

3947
03:16:07,100 --> 03:16:10,601
happen if we justKeep ignoring people.

3948
03:16:11,100 --> 03:16:12,100
Okay, thanks.

3949
03:16:12,100 --> 03:16:14,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

3950
03:16:21,100 --> 03:16:25,100
>>I am Jennifer Smith. I did enjoy the

3951
03:16:25,100 --> 03:16:28,100
gentleman talking aboutAn increase in

3952
03:16:31,100 --> 03:16:34,100
noise and wonderful data centers. I

3953
03:16:34,100 --> 03:16:35,100
take a dozen live in my neighborhood. I

3954
03:16:35,100 --> 03:16:38,100
am at the end of the cul-de-sac, I

3955
03:16:38,100 --> 03:16:41,601
didn't recognize our house, SoI'm kind

3956
03:16:42,100 --> 03:16:45,100
of taking thePick sure that the

3957
03:16:45,100 --> 03:16:47,100
information providingAs potentialsWhat

3958
03:16:48,100 --> 03:16:51,100
if's, Maybe flexible, Future needAnd

3959
03:16:57,100 --> 03:17:00,100
there's no set guidelines, you all put

3960
03:17:00,100 --> 03:17:02,100
more guidelines on homeowners

3961
03:17:02,100 --> 03:17:03,100
remodeling their homes then you have

3962
03:17:03,100 --> 03:17:07,100
withThese. Why are we held to a higher

3963
03:17:07,100 --> 03:17:09,401
standardFor less impactThen a

3964
03:17:12,100 --> 03:17:14,401
billion-dollar corporation?That's just

3965
03:17:17,100 --> 03:17:18,100
mind blowing. People stood up and told

3966
03:17:18,100 --> 03:17:21,100
you all kinds of reasonsTo deny this,

3967
03:17:21,100 --> 03:17:22,100
to say no, they gave you plenty of

3968
03:17:22,100 --> 03:17:23,100
evidence, some people had degrees, I

3969
03:17:23,100 --> 03:17:27,100
don't, but I lived there.I know the

3970
03:17:27,100 --> 03:17:31,201
noise. I use an app called (INAUDIBLE)

3971
03:17:33,100 --> 03:17:34,100
to listen to the birds. 22 birds in my

3972
03:17:34,100 --> 03:17:37,100
neighborhood one day.You think I'm

3973
03:17:37,100 --> 03:17:41,100
going to hear that once that starts?

3974
03:17:41,100 --> 03:17:44,601
How many years of construction?It's 81

3975
03:17:48,100 --> 03:17:49,100
Traffic. I don't hear the truck stop. I

3976
03:17:49,100 --> 03:17:51,100
don't hear that. Maybe the traffic

3977
03:17:51,100 --> 03:17:53,100
sometimes, but I don't hear it.What

3978
03:17:53,100 --> 03:17:56,100
they're talking aboutIs not definite,

3979
03:18:00,100 --> 03:18:01,100
there's no definite to what they're

3980
03:18:01,100 --> 03:18:02,100
giving you, they're not giving you the

3981
03:18:02,100 --> 03:18:03,100
information. There's articles all over,

3982
03:18:03,100 --> 03:18:04,100
you can get your information there,

3983
03:18:04,100 --> 03:18:07,601
Virginia is losing$1.8 billion to data

3984
03:18:08,100 --> 03:18:11,601
centers because the benefits they get.

3985
03:18:13,100 --> 03:18:14,100
It is not coming back to us. If you say

3986
03:18:14,100 --> 03:18:16,100
yes to this, all you're doing is

3987
03:18:16,100 --> 03:18:17,100
getting money from them and forcing the

3988
03:18:17,100 --> 03:18:20,601
cost on usAnd not taking responsibility

3989
03:18:21,100 --> 03:18:23,100
for it because you didn't raise taxes.

3990
03:18:23,100 --> 03:18:26,100
That's what's happening. You will raise

3991
03:18:26,100 --> 03:18:27,100
our electricity, you will cause water

3992
03:18:27,100 --> 03:18:28,100
shortages, you guys can look at your

3993
03:18:28,100 --> 03:18:30,100
website, how many times have you put

3994
03:18:30,100 --> 03:18:32,401
droughtAffectAnd warnings, lower your

3995
03:18:36,100 --> 03:18:39,100
water usage to 50%, 25 for businesses,

3996
03:18:39,100 --> 03:18:40,100
are they going to lower their water

3997
03:18:40,100 --> 03:18:42,100
usage?What if they need more in the

3998
03:18:42,100 --> 03:18:45,100
future?Once you say yes there is no

3999
03:18:45,100 --> 03:18:48,100
saying no. You think they're going to

4000
03:18:48,100 --> 03:18:51,100
care if you're fine?FindingAffects the

4001
03:18:51,100 --> 03:18:54,601
people you find the homeowner, Finding

4002
03:18:56,100 --> 03:18:57,100
doesn't affect the billion dollar

4003
03:18:57,100 --> 03:18:59,401
corporation.Okay? That's Penny's.

4004
03:19:01,100 --> 03:19:05,201
Penny's.They can do whatever they want.

4005
03:19:06,100 --> 03:19:10,801
They can make all the promises they want

4006
03:19:11,100 --> 03:19:12,100
With (INAUDIBLE). That's unfair to us,

4007
03:19:12,100 --> 03:19:13,100
if you can't come with definite Skype

4008
03:19:13,100 --> 03:19:17,201
you can't come withThe fact that there

4009
03:19:26,100 --> 03:19:27,100
is no evidence, if you're not looking

4010
03:19:27,100 --> 03:19:28,100
to do your due diligence, say no. It

4011
03:19:28,100 --> 03:19:31,601
doesn't meet our comprehensive plan. Do

4012
03:19:36,100 --> 03:19:37,100
a new conference a plan. Set strict

4013
03:19:37,100 --> 03:19:38,100
guidelines. Allow us to have a voice.

4014
03:19:38,100 --> 03:19:39,100
This is not what we want.

4015
03:19:39,100 --> 03:19:40,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

4016
03:19:40,100 --> 03:19:42,100
>>Thank you.

4017
03:19:49,100 --> 03:19:50,100
>>Ron Harrison followed by Lisa Frank.

4018
03:19:50,100 --> 03:19:51,100
>>Good evening, Ron Harrison, Joni

4019
03:19:51,100 --> 03:19:54,100
district. Let me say at the outsetI am

4020
03:19:54,100 --> 03:19:58,100
not against rezoning. In fact I'm in

4021
03:19:58,100 --> 03:20:00,100
favor of it in certain instances, for

4022
03:20:00,100 --> 03:20:03,100
example, I would like to address

4023
03:20:03,100 --> 03:20:06,100
missing middle housingFor some rezoning

4024
03:20:08,100 --> 03:20:09,100
to allow higher density housing because

4025
03:20:09,100 --> 03:20:12,100
that brings value to the community. It

4026
03:20:12,100 --> 03:20:13,100
helps solve a crisis that we have in

4027
03:20:13,100 --> 03:20:16,601
our community.That's important.When it

4028
03:20:18,100 --> 03:20:19,100
comes to rezoning, I would like to

4029
03:20:19,100 --> 03:20:20,100
point out an articleIn Wall Street

4030
03:20:20,100 --> 03:20:23,601
Journal today. It pointed out that

4031
03:20:26,100 --> 03:20:27,100
according to the JPMorgan study that

4032
03:20:27,100 --> 03:20:30,100
was done a month ago60%Of the data

4033
03:20:30,100 --> 03:20:33,100
centers expected to come onlineIn 2027

4034
03:20:36,100 --> 03:20:40,100
Have yet to be startedAnd another 7%Are

4035
03:20:40,100 --> 03:20:43,100
being delayed. Now if I remember my

4036
03:20:43,100 --> 03:20:46,100
fractions that's two thirdsOf all the

4037
03:20:46,100 --> 03:20:48,100
data centers that are under contract

4038
03:20:48,100 --> 03:20:52,201
right now, They're not even there.And

4039
03:20:53,100 --> 03:20:55,100
you are consideringMaking a zoning

4040
03:20:55,100 --> 03:20:58,601
changeFor something that is years in

4041
03:20:59,100 --> 03:21:03,100
the offing and may never happen.And I

4042
03:21:03,100 --> 03:21:07,100
would like to point this out to you.By

4043
03:21:07,100 --> 03:21:08,100
doing so, you are eliminating the

4044
03:21:08,100 --> 03:21:11,601
opportunityTo do some rezoning for an

4045
03:21:13,100 --> 03:21:14,100
applicant who actually brings value to

4046
03:21:14,100 --> 03:21:17,100
the communityAnd to the County. What am

4047
03:21:17,100 --> 03:21:18,100
I talking about? In the interest of

4048
03:21:18,100 --> 03:21:21,100
full disclosure, I am an Apple

4049
03:21:21,100 --> 03:21:24,601
shareholder.Somebody might say Apple is

4050
03:21:27,100 --> 03:21:28,100
an AI company. Well, they're really

4051
03:21:28,100 --> 03:21:30,100
not, they are the laggard in AI. Because

4052
03:21:30,100 --> 03:21:33,100
Apple is a manufacturer.First and

4053
03:21:33,100 --> 03:21:36,601
foremost.They make stuff that people

4054
03:21:39,100 --> 03:21:43,801
want to buy, it adds value to theirLives

4055
03:21:45,100 --> 03:21:46,100
, That's the kind of company, if you

4056
03:21:46,100 --> 03:21:47,100
want to make a change through rezoning,

4057
03:21:47,100 --> 03:21:49,100
When somebody like an apple comes along

4058
03:21:49,100 --> 03:21:52,601
and alsoThey provide jobs, If you're

4059
03:21:56,100 --> 03:21:57,100
going to make a zoning change, do it

4060
03:21:57,100 --> 03:21:59,100
for the right reasons, not for this

4061
03:21:59,100 --> 03:22:02,100
type of stuff, this is insane.I would

4062
03:22:02,100 --> 03:22:06,201
also like to point outI spent 40 years

4063
03:22:07,100 --> 03:22:12,401
in IT. And I developed a lot of cutting

4064
03:22:16,100 --> 03:22:17,100
edge technology, leading-edge

4065
03:22:17,100 --> 03:22:18,100
technology, I would dare say some of

4066
03:22:18,100 --> 03:22:19,100
the stuff I've been involved inHas

4067
03:22:19,100 --> 03:22:21,100
affected everybody in this room. Okay?

4068
03:22:21,100 --> 03:22:25,201
But I have seen what the consequences

4069
03:22:26,100 --> 03:22:27,100
are. Okay? Sometimes great ideas in the

4070
03:22:27,100 --> 03:22:30,100
technologyDevelopment ends up being a

4071
03:22:36,100 --> 03:22:37,100
disaster. I helped develop the very

4072
03:22:37,100 --> 03:22:38,100
first telemarketing center in the

4073
03:22:38,100 --> 03:22:39,100
United States. It was done so for

4074
03:22:39,100 --> 03:22:42,100
really good reason. It was done because

4075
03:22:42,100 --> 03:22:45,100
it was done for MCI telecommunications,

4076
03:22:45,100 --> 03:22:46,100
a company that change long distance

4077
03:22:46,100 --> 03:22:49,601
service in this country. That became

4078
03:22:50,100 --> 03:22:51,100
part of the telecommunications

4079
03:22:51,100 --> 03:22:55,201
revolution. But I am pretty sure nobody

4080
03:22:57,100 --> 03:22:58,100
likes getting a telemarketing call when

4081
03:22:58,100 --> 03:23:00,100
you're trying to have dinner. So don't

4082
03:23:00,100 --> 03:23:01,100
do it.

4083
03:23:01,100 --> 03:23:03,100
>>Thank you, sir.

4084
03:23:03,100 --> 03:23:05,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

4085
03:23:07,100 --> 03:23:10,601
>>Lisa Frank followed by Leslie Spencer.

4086
03:23:12,100 --> 03:23:13,100
>>At evening, folks. My name is Lisa

4087
03:23:13,100 --> 03:23:14,100
Frank, I own a thorough bed breeding

4088
03:23:14,100 --> 03:23:17,100
farmAnd following facility in Stephen

4089
03:23:19,100 --> 03:23:20,100
city, I'm not sure what district that

4090
03:23:20,100 --> 03:23:24,801
is, I am so sorry. I livedIn Frank

4091
03:23:25,100 --> 03:23:26,100
Frederick County for my entire life and

4092
03:23:26,100 --> 03:23:30,201
have 18 years in IT management. I chose

4093
03:23:37,100 --> 03:23:38,100
to build my farm in Frederick County

4094
03:23:38,100 --> 03:23:39,100
and have an intimate understanding of

4095
03:23:39,100 --> 03:23:40,100
the data space including analytics and

4096
03:23:40,100 --> 03:23:41,100
AI and other AI capabilities. In

4097
03:23:41,100 --> 03:23:42,100
addition to the data center issues that

4098
03:23:42,100 --> 03:23:44,100
most everybody here is forAnd has

4099
03:23:44,100 --> 03:23:47,100
already spoken about, what I am gravely

4100
03:23:47,100 --> 03:23:49,401
concerned aboutFor this countyThe

4101
03:23:51,100 --> 03:23:53,100
technology Park designation since this

4102
03:23:53,100 --> 03:23:56,601
is the first oneBeing evaluated under

4103
03:23:58,100 --> 03:24:00,100
such a designation, I am very concerned

4104
03:24:00,100 --> 03:24:03,100
that this designation even exists which

4105
03:24:03,100 --> 03:24:04,100
have no penalties associated with it

4106
03:24:04,100 --> 03:24:07,100
beyondYears of litigation and no

4107
03:24:07,100 --> 03:24:09,401
restitution for property devaluationTo

4108
03:24:10,100 --> 03:24:11,100
adjacent properties. There are no

4109
03:24:11,100 --> 03:24:13,401
immediateFinancial or other penalties

4110
03:24:14,100 --> 03:24:17,100
in the zoning ordinances such as

4111
03:24:17,100 --> 03:24:19,401
mandatory operational shutdown to

4112
03:24:20,100 --> 03:24:21,100
violations of the county guardrails are

4113
03:24:21,100 --> 03:24:24,100
proffers under operational use or even

4114
03:24:24,100 --> 03:24:26,401
mandatory purchase of adjacent

4115
03:24:27,100 --> 03:24:30,100
properties that are impacted seriously.

4116
03:24:33,100 --> 03:24:34,100
Is a former senior federal staff I

4117
03:24:34,100 --> 03:24:35,100
would encourage you to reconsider any

4118
03:24:35,100 --> 03:24:36,100
decision to approve anything under this

4119
03:24:36,100 --> 03:24:39,100
new designation as it is currently

4120
03:24:39,100 --> 03:24:41,100
written. I would encourage you to

4121
03:24:41,100 --> 03:24:44,601
consult with not only County attorneys

4122
03:24:45,100 --> 03:24:46,100
But also personal attorneys to

4123
03:24:46,100 --> 03:24:48,100
understand any risk you may be open to

4124
03:24:48,100 --> 03:24:51,100
should you approve a designation which

4125
03:24:51,100 --> 03:24:52,100
poses such a high risk to your

4126
03:24:52,100 --> 03:24:54,100
constituency, especially with so many

4127
03:24:54,100 --> 03:24:57,100
saying they don't want them here. As

4128
03:24:57,100 --> 03:25:01,100
public servants we serve the people, we

4129
03:25:01,100 --> 03:25:02,100
are not only professionally but

4130
03:25:02,100 --> 03:25:03,100
personally liable for our decisions

4131
03:25:03,100 --> 03:25:06,100
which may seriously impact the health,

4132
03:25:06,100 --> 03:25:09,100
Safety, welfare, and property values of

4133
03:25:09,100 --> 03:25:12,100
our constituency. These data centersOur

4134
03:25:13,100 --> 03:25:15,100
only being proposed in drought stricken

4135
03:25:15,100 --> 03:25:18,601
areas. Why?And why Virginia? Because

4136
03:25:25,100 --> 03:25:26,100
it's cheap and there are no penalties

4137
03:25:26,100 --> 03:25:27,100
for violating citizens sanctity.

4138
03:25:27,100 --> 03:25:28,100
Virginia has the most data center

4139
03:25:28,100 --> 03:25:29,100
developmentOf all states with the

4140
03:25:29,100 --> 03:25:32,601
exception of Texas. Someone else has

4141
03:25:33,100 --> 03:25:34,100
mentioned that that is considerably

4142
03:25:34,100 --> 03:25:36,100
less landmass than Texas. I have

4143
03:25:36,100 --> 03:25:37,100
personal experience of drought related

4144
03:25:37,100 --> 03:25:41,201
issuesOn my farm now let alone having

4145
03:25:42,100 --> 03:25:43,100
to compete with water from animals with

4146
03:25:43,100 --> 03:25:46,100
data centers tapping the same aquifers.

4147
03:25:46,100 --> 03:25:49,100
Data centers are builtTo Lisa Rackspace

4148
03:25:49,100 --> 03:25:53,100
to others, that is how they make their

4149
03:25:53,100 --> 03:25:54,100
money, the company building will not be

4150
03:25:54,100 --> 03:25:57,100
the companyHolding or using it.

4151
03:25:59,100 --> 03:26:00,100
Proffers only govern the building of

4152
03:26:00,100 --> 03:26:04,100
these data centers, not the leasing of

4153
03:26:04,100 --> 03:26:05,100
the Rackspace. Inside the data center

4154
03:26:05,100 --> 03:26:09,201
once it is already built. We keep

4155
03:26:13,100 --> 03:26:14,100
talking audible decibels and gallons in

4156
03:26:14,100 --> 03:26:15,100
electricity and taxes which are

4157
03:26:15,100 --> 03:26:16,100
critical to our citizens for the very

4158
03:26:16,100 --> 03:26:17,100
reasons already shared.I encourage you

4159
03:26:17,100 --> 03:26:21,201
toEncourage others to vote no on this.

4160
03:26:22,100 --> 03:26:25,100
We need to be asking for penaltiesAll

4161
03:26:25,100 --> 03:26:27,100
of these proffers.

4162
03:26:27,100 --> 03:26:29,100
>>Thank you.

4163
03:26:29,100 --> 03:26:31,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

4164
03:26:34,100 --> 03:26:37,601
>>Leslie Spencer followed by Joel Faust.

4165
03:26:38,100 --> 03:26:39,100
>>My name is Leslie Spencer, I am from

4166
03:26:39,100 --> 03:26:42,601
Gainsborough. Someone, Just for want to

4167
03:26:45,100 --> 03:26:46,100
say someone told me that sometimes

4168
03:26:46,100 --> 03:26:47,100
officials seem to think that a county

4169
03:26:47,100 --> 03:26:51,100
and not always hereThe citizens and I

4170
03:26:51,100 --> 03:26:52,100
don't agree, but I do try to understand

4171
03:26:52,100 --> 03:26:53,100
what many citizens face in losing their

4172
03:26:53,100 --> 03:26:56,601
precious home. It feels like a

4173
03:26:57,100 --> 03:26:58,100
homebirth the homestead and I

4174
03:26:58,100 --> 03:26:59,100
homeschooled, if ever live near this

4175
03:26:59,100 --> 03:27:03,801
area my life would be affected, I try

4176
03:27:05,100 --> 03:27:06,100
to think and research the most I can

4177
03:27:06,100 --> 03:27:07,100
for my community because if I was about

4178
03:27:07,100 --> 03:27:08,100
to lose all that I loveI would be

4179
03:27:08,100 --> 03:27:11,100
devastated and frozen in fear and

4180
03:27:11,100 --> 03:27:12,100
grief. I would know what to say. We

4181
03:27:12,100 --> 03:27:14,100
need to amendThe area and help protect

4182
03:27:14,100 --> 03:27:17,100
Stonewall, the citizen surveys never

4183
03:27:18,100 --> 03:27:21,601
said this, I read them, theseIdeas

4184
03:27:22,100 --> 03:27:23,100
likely came from the lobbyist and the

4185
03:27:23,100 --> 03:27:26,100
former director. Good evening, thank

4186
03:27:26,100 --> 03:27:27,100
you for your dedication and thank you

4187
03:27:27,100 --> 03:27:30,100
for all the votersFor showing up for

4188
03:27:30,100 --> 03:27:31,100
your County tonight. Frederick County

4189
03:27:31,100 --> 03:27:34,100
deserves clarity, Foresight, and strong

4190
03:27:35,100 --> 03:27:36,100
leadership. As you consider this

4191
03:27:36,100 --> 03:27:39,601
massive project I wantTo pose five

4192
03:27:40,100 --> 03:27:41,100
critical questions. First, do we truly

4193
03:27:41,100 --> 03:27:42,100
know the value of what we are losing?

4194
03:27:42,100 --> 03:27:44,401
Our comprehensive planExpressly states

4195
03:27:45,100 --> 03:27:48,601
that a rotatingRezoning request may be

4196
03:27:49,100 --> 03:27:52,100
turned out even thoughThings are

4197
03:27:55,100 --> 03:27:56,100
addressed. That leaves the power in

4198
03:27:56,100 --> 03:27:58,100
your hands. Not be determined to use as

4199
03:27:58,100 --> 03:28:01,601
a property in the vicinity. Second

4200
03:28:02,100 --> 03:28:05,601
under Virginia Senate Bill 94 just past

4201
03:28:06,100 --> 03:28:07,100
are we properly evaluating the

4202
03:28:07,100 --> 03:28:09,401
cumulative long-term impactsAnd beyond

4203
03:28:11,100 --> 03:28:12,100
the immediate property lines because

4204
03:28:12,100 --> 03:28:14,100
the adjoining areas is our state

4205
03:28:14,100 --> 03:28:15,100
entrance which is an important

4206
03:28:15,100 --> 03:28:19,201
perception kind of, This brings me to

4207
03:28:20,100 --> 03:28:21,100
my third question, what will help

4208
03:28:21,100 --> 03:28:24,100
visitors see, What will you help

4209
03:28:24,100 --> 03:28:25,100
visitors see at the gateway to our

4210
03:28:25,100 --> 03:28:29,201
state, parents will say often for the

4211
03:28:30,100 --> 03:28:31,100
first time look, kids, we are in

4212
03:28:31,100 --> 03:28:32,100
Virginia, this is a part of our legacy

4213
03:28:32,100 --> 03:28:35,100
of care regarding tourismAnd our

4214
03:28:35,100 --> 03:28:38,100
conference a plan says protects us with

4215
03:28:38,100 --> 03:28:39,100
first impressions often set the tone,

4216
03:28:39,100 --> 03:28:42,100
this isWe need to benefit, they will

4217
03:28:42,100 --> 03:28:45,100
come back. This brings me to my third

4218
03:28:45,100 --> 03:28:48,100
question.Sorry, will a 900 MW

4219
03:28:53,100 --> 03:28:54,100
industrial load undermine our County

4220
03:28:54,100 --> 03:28:57,601
Valley and save historical tourism?The

4221
03:29:02,100 --> 03:29:03,100
plan states one plan is converted from

4222
03:29:03,100 --> 03:29:04,100
agricultural use it is likely it will

4223
03:29:04,100 --> 03:29:05,100
never be reclaimed. Our farmersIn their

4224
03:29:05,100 --> 03:29:07,401
securityNeed more support through

4225
03:29:13,100 --> 03:29:14,100
tourism, not less, and now more than

4226
03:29:14,100 --> 03:29:15,100
ever, does this move us towards our

4227
03:29:15,100 --> 03:29:16,100
economic vision or towardsSustainable

4228
03:29:16,100 --> 03:29:18,401
demand for endless energy

4229
03:29:19,100 --> 03:29:20,100
infrastructure, consider the staggering

4230
03:29:20,100 --> 03:29:23,100
scale, this is 900 MW, the CPEs, the

4231
03:29:23,100 --> 03:29:26,601
ValleyUses 265 MW today and our EC

4232
03:29:30,100 --> 03:29:33,100
serves 22 counties with 1150 MW, the

4233
03:29:34,100 --> 03:29:38,201
single use facility is a lowOur local

4234
03:29:48,100 --> 03:29:49,100
grid. It will introduce the heat island

4235
03:29:49,100 --> 03:29:50,100
effect that strains everybody's energy

4236
03:29:50,100 --> 03:29:51,100
bills as well as their watersheds and

4237
03:29:51,100 --> 03:29:52,100
farmlands. This is the time to use SB

4238
03:29:52,100 --> 03:29:53,100
94. Thank you.

4239
03:29:53,100 --> 03:29:54,100
>>Thank you.

4240
03:29:54,100 --> 03:29:55,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

4241
03:29:55,100 --> 03:29:56,100
>>Joel Fallis followed by Darla

4242
03:29:56,100 --> 03:29:58,100
McCreary.

4243
03:30:09,100 --> 03:30:10,100
>>Mr. Chairman, commissioners company

4244
03:30:10,100 --> 03:30:11,100
was Joel thousand 11 Gainsborough

4245
03:30:11,100 --> 03:30:12,100
district. I want to start off by

4246
03:30:12,100 --> 03:30:13,100
thanking this planning commission for

4247
03:30:13,100 --> 03:30:14,100
hearing citizens feedback over the past

4248
03:30:14,100 --> 03:30:15,100
several months expressing concerns and

4249
03:30:15,100 --> 03:30:16,100
firm boundaries for this applicant

4250
03:30:16,100 --> 03:30:17,100
during lastMonths working session and

4251
03:30:17,100 --> 03:30:18,100
here tonight. Also want to thank Mr.

4252
03:30:18,100 --> 03:30:21,100
Pearson for his comments duringThe

4253
03:30:28,100 --> 03:30:29,100
recent session following the session

4254
03:30:29,100 --> 03:30:30,100
regardless of how the community might

4255
03:30:30,100 --> 03:30:31,100
feel about it because if we are to be a

4256
03:30:31,100 --> 03:30:32,100
country governed by the rule of law we

4257
03:30:32,100 --> 03:30:33,100
must follow the laws protections for

4258
03:30:33,100 --> 03:30:37,100
fellow systems whether or not we favor

4259
03:30:37,100 --> 03:30:38,100
their ideas. Principles matter. If I

4260
03:30:38,100 --> 03:30:39,100
had a project that would be unpopular I

4261
03:30:39,100 --> 03:30:41,100
would like the opportunity to makeThe

4262
03:30:41,100 --> 03:30:42,100
case to the best of my ability and let

4263
03:30:42,100 --> 03:30:43,100
it be considered on its merits. That's

4264
03:30:43,100 --> 03:30:45,100
only fair.

4265
03:30:52,100 --> 03:30:53,100
, This applicant has submitted their

4266
03:30:53,100 --> 03:30:54,100
revised application including a

4267
03:30:54,100 --> 03:30:55,100
recurring change from the word noise to

4268
03:30:55,100 --> 03:30:59,801
the word sound. I thought that was cute.

4269
03:31:01,100 --> 03:31:02,100
And it made the best case they can make

4270
03:31:02,100 --> 03:31:03,100
for the project. That is their right.

4271
03:31:03,100 --> 03:31:07,201
And tonight it's our turnOn the record.

4272
03:31:12,100 --> 03:31:13,100
I want to rebut claims this afternoon

4273
03:31:13,100 --> 03:31:14,100
to see what it sounded like out there

4274
03:31:14,100 --> 03:31:18,100
currently on a summer afternoon for the

4275
03:31:18,100 --> 03:31:19,100
folks who have lived there for 10 or 20

4276
03:31:19,100 --> 03:31:20,100
years or more. Let me say first that

4277
03:31:20,100 --> 03:31:21,100
just rolling down the gravel road at a

4278
03:31:21,100 --> 03:31:23,100
crawling 8 to 10 miles an hourMade me

4279
03:31:23,100 --> 03:31:25,100
feel like I was disturbing the peace.

4280
03:31:25,100 --> 03:31:28,100
That's how quiet it felt. I got out of

4281
03:31:28,100 --> 03:31:30,100
my car and turned it off and used a

4282
03:31:30,100 --> 03:31:34,100
basic sound meterOn my phone, With an

4283
03:31:34,100 --> 03:31:37,100
app on my phoneTo measure the

4284
03:31:37,100 --> 03:31:40,100
background noise level.As always

4285
03:31:41,100 --> 03:31:42,100
obviously not professional equipment

4286
03:31:42,100 --> 03:31:45,100
but for simpleBaseline comparison that

4287
03:31:48,100 --> 03:31:49,100
serves the purpose. I checked in a few

4288
03:31:49,100 --> 03:31:50,100
different spots. Concluding the highway

4289
03:31:50,100 --> 03:31:51,100
noise in the distance which gets

4290
03:31:51,100 --> 03:31:55,201
quieter night I saw the wholePolycom mix

4291
03:32:00,100 --> 03:32:01,100
Slide earlier especially when I was

4292
03:32:01,100 --> 03:32:02,100
behind tree line, property lines were

4293
03:32:02,100 --> 03:32:03,100
to be it only ever got above 4500 birds

4294
03:32:03,100 --> 03:32:07,100
chirped nearby or a good breeze was

4295
03:32:07,100 --> 03:32:09,100
rustling in the trees. A slightly louder

4296
03:32:09,100 --> 03:32:10,100
than a refrigerator or a low

4297
03:32:10,100 --> 03:32:13,601
conversation.By comparison,Turn it up,

4298
03:32:15,100 --> 03:32:19,201
a little bit?Okay.My little voice

4299
03:32:20,100 --> 03:32:22,100
machine over there is now giving me a

4300
03:32:22,100 --> 03:32:26,801
measurement, Keep it on.Up a little bit?

4301
03:32:36,100 --> 03:32:40,201
Low 60s.So given the sizeIn the

4302
03:32:46,100 --> 03:32:47,100
additional distance to the dais, your

4303
03:32:47,100 --> 03:32:48,100
hearing somewhere in the ballpark of 60

4304
03:32:48,100 --> 03:32:50,100
dBWhich might not sound like much in

4305
03:32:50,100 --> 03:32:52,100
the context of this room on such a

4306
03:32:52,100 --> 03:32:55,100
little noise sourceBut just listen for

4307
03:32:55,100 --> 03:32:58,100
a moment.Imagine stepping outsideAnd

4308
03:33:00,100 --> 03:33:03,100
hearing this constantlyYou would not,

4309
03:33:05,100 --> 03:33:09,100
you not hear the crickets, any bullfrogs

4310
03:33:09,100 --> 03:33:11,100
, any tree peepers at night because

4311
03:33:11,100 --> 03:33:14,100
this would be the soundtrackDear kids

4312
03:33:14,100 --> 03:33:16,401
playing in the yardEtc.

4313
03:33:19,100 --> 03:33:22,100
>>Thank you very much, sir.

4314
03:33:23,100 --> 03:33:26,601
[ APPLAUSE ]. Be sure to pay bill

4315
03:33:28,100 --> 03:33:29,100
well.

4316
03:33:29,100 --> 03:33:33,100
>>McCreary and that's the last one on

4317
03:33:33,100 --> 03:33:34,100
the list.

4318
03:33:34,100 --> 03:33:37,100
>>Good evening, late evening, it's

4319
03:33:40,100 --> 03:33:41,100
almost 10:30, this is a point of

4320
03:33:41,100 --> 03:33:42,100
reference, I'm number 48 on the sign-up

4321
03:33:42,100 --> 03:33:43,100
list. I think we are getting near the

4322
03:33:43,100 --> 03:33:44,100
end, Thank you so much for your time

4323
03:33:44,100 --> 03:33:47,601
and serving on the planning commission.

4324
03:33:49,100 --> 03:33:50,100
I am Darla McCreary, I am in the back

4325
03:33:50,100 --> 03:33:53,100
Creek District, will be brief. The

4326
03:33:53,100 --> 03:33:54,100
proposed water demand alone provides

4327
03:33:54,100 --> 03:33:56,100
sufficient grounds to deny this

4328
03:33:56,100 --> 03:33:58,401
application. The developer has

4329
03:33:59,100 --> 03:34:02,100
repeatedly stated both of Frederick

4330
03:34:02,100 --> 03:34:03,100
water to the county staff and during

4331
03:34:03,100 --> 03:34:06,601
public hearingsThat a data center uses

4332
03:34:09,100 --> 03:34:10,100
approximately 35,000 gallons of water

4333
03:34:10,100 --> 03:34:14,201
per day, we've heard that, haven't we?

4334
03:34:16,100 --> 03:34:17,100
What has not been made clear is that

4335
03:34:17,100 --> 03:34:18,100
this figure applies per building, not

4336
03:34:18,100 --> 03:34:21,100
per site, with 10 buildings being

4337
03:34:24,100 --> 03:34:25,100
proposed, the total daily demand would

4338
03:34:25,100 --> 03:34:26,100
reach 350,000 gallons of water every

4339
03:34:26,100 --> 03:34:28,100
single day.Although the application and

4340
03:34:28,100 --> 03:34:30,100
proffers acknowledge potential water

4341
03:34:30,100 --> 03:34:33,100
requirements and now propose a cap of

4342
03:34:33,100 --> 03:34:36,100
120,000 gallons.Gallons per day, excuse

4343
03:34:37,100 --> 03:34:40,100
me, they provide almost no detail

4344
03:34:40,100 --> 03:34:41,100
regarding the system upgrades required

4345
03:34:41,100 --> 03:34:44,100
to deliver that volume of water and

4346
03:34:44,100 --> 03:34:46,100
sewer service to this property without

4347
03:34:46,100 --> 03:34:48,100
a clear feasible and fully funded

4348
03:34:48,100 --> 03:34:50,401
infrastructure planThe proffered Is

4349
03:34:51,100 --> 03:34:53,401
neither credible norEnforceable. Water

4350
03:35:02,100 --> 03:35:03,100
is not an abstract resource, it is

4351
03:35:03,100 --> 03:35:04,100
essential to human health, agriculture,

4352
03:35:04,100 --> 03:35:05,100
wildlife and the long-term

4353
03:35:05,100 --> 03:35:07,100
sustainability of our community.

4354
03:35:07,100 --> 03:35:08,100
Approving a project with such

4355
03:35:08,100 --> 03:35:10,100
extraordinaryAnd adequately addressed

4356
03:35:12,100 --> 03:35:13,100
water demands would place unnecessary

4357
03:35:13,100 --> 03:35:16,100
strainOn a critical public resource.

4358
03:35:21,100 --> 03:35:22,100
Residents throughout the water service

4359
03:35:22,100 --> 03:35:23,100
area as well as those relying on

4360
03:35:23,100 --> 03:35:24,100
private wells as myselfShould be deeply

4361
03:35:24,100 --> 03:35:27,100
concernedAbout future access to clean

4362
03:35:27,100 --> 03:35:30,100
water. The combination of massive daily

4363
03:35:30,100 --> 03:35:33,100
consumption and the discharge of

4364
03:35:34,100 --> 03:35:35,100
chemically laden water into the local

4365
03:35:35,100 --> 03:35:38,100
quarriesAnd the OPEC and our primary

4366
03:35:38,100 --> 03:35:40,100
water sources poses a direct risk to

4367
03:35:40,100 --> 03:35:43,100
the safety, reliability and long-term

4368
03:35:45,100 --> 03:35:47,100
viability of our water supply. It is my

4369
03:35:47,100 --> 03:35:49,100
request that you denyThis application.

4370
03:35:49,100 --> 03:35:51,100
Thank you.

4371
03:35:51,100 --> 03:35:52,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

4372
03:35:52,100 --> 03:35:54,100
>>Thank you.

4373
03:36:04,100 --> 03:36:05,100
That completes our list of everyone

4374
03:36:05,100 --> 03:36:06,100
that signed up. Does anyone wish to

4375
03:36:06,100 --> 03:36:09,601
speak who hasn't had the opportunity?

4376
03:36:14,100 --> 03:36:15,100
State your name, district, three

4377
03:36:15,100 --> 03:36:16,100
minutes or less. Her mom, Matthew

4378
03:36:16,100 --> 03:36:17,100
Jackson, I live about 10 miles roughly

4379
03:36:17,100 --> 03:36:21,201
from the proposed site in Clearbrook. I

4380
03:36:22,100 --> 03:36:23,100
have just to give a little background

4381
03:36:23,100 --> 03:36:24,100
on me, I graduated from Henley high

4382
03:36:24,100 --> 03:36:27,100
school, lovely school, Levitt, went

4383
03:36:28,100 --> 03:36:29,100
down to James Madison, got my bachelors

4384
03:36:29,100 --> 03:36:30,100
and Masters in computer science which

4385
03:36:30,100 --> 03:36:32,100
should tell you something about how I

4386
03:36:32,100 --> 03:36:35,601
would probably feel about data centers.

4387
03:36:39,100 --> 03:36:40,100
He is gone now but as he stated

4388
03:36:40,100 --> 03:36:41,100
previously, data infrastructure are

4389
03:36:41,100 --> 03:36:42,100
very important, very big deal.

4390
03:36:42,100 --> 03:36:43,100
Unfortunately,Might be surprised, I am

4391
03:36:43,100 --> 03:36:47,100
very much opposed to this proposal.It

4392
03:36:47,100 --> 03:36:49,100
doesn't make sense for the region, it is

4393
03:36:49,100 --> 03:36:51,100
Speculative at best how longThese data

4394
03:36:51,100 --> 03:36:54,601
centers will be runningAt scale and

4395
03:36:57,100 --> 03:36:58,100
that puts into effect a risk to the tax

4396
03:36:58,100 --> 03:37:01,601
revenue coming in that the entire

4397
03:37:03,100 --> 03:37:04,100
proposal, the pros of this entire

4398
03:37:04,100 --> 03:37:06,100
proposal was tax revenue. But ifThe

4399
03:37:06,100 --> 03:37:09,100
data centers the hyper scale in the AI

4400
03:37:09,100 --> 03:37:12,100
and all that goes away, To use a nice

4401
03:37:12,100 --> 03:37:16,201
term,You won't see that tax revenue

4402
03:37:17,100 --> 03:37:18,100
over the years because that will sit

4403
03:37:18,100 --> 03:37:23,100
empty.I am not trying to fear Monger, I

4404
03:37:23,100 --> 03:37:24,100
certainly understand you all are taking

4405
03:37:24,100 --> 03:37:29,401
in a lot of data, I'm hearing from a

4406
03:37:30,100 --> 03:37:31,100
lot of people and sources, so I will

4407
03:37:31,100 --> 03:37:32,100
cut myself off short and say that from

4408
03:37:32,100 --> 03:37:33,100
a technical's perspective even from a

4409
03:37:33,100 --> 03:37:34,100
technical perspective I would be

4410
03:37:34,100 --> 03:37:36,100
opposed to the say noTo this proposal.

4411
03:37:36,100 --> 03:37:38,100
Thank you.

4412
03:37:39,100 --> 03:37:40,100
>>Thank you.

4413
03:37:40,100 --> 03:37:42,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

4414
03:37:45,100 --> 03:37:49,100
>>I'm going to do this,On the sign over

4415
03:37:49,100 --> 03:37:52,100
there says 280 to 260. Fire marshal?We

4416
03:37:52,100 --> 03:37:56,100
one person in this room was in favor of

4417
03:37:56,100 --> 03:38:00,801
data centers. My question to you,Take a

4418
03:38:03,100 --> 03:38:04,100
ride, bring lunch, go down to Layton

4419
03:38:04,100 --> 03:38:05,100
County, sit next to a data center, sit

4420
03:38:05,100 --> 03:38:06,100
there for two half hours. Didn't see

4421
03:38:06,100 --> 03:38:10,201
one bird.Didn't see one fox, one

4422
03:38:11,100 --> 03:38:12,100
rabbit, didn't see any animals

4423
03:38:12,100 --> 03:38:15,100
whatsoever.Keep that in mind and how

4424
03:38:15,100 --> 03:38:17,100
these things destroy the area. Thank

4425
03:38:17,100 --> 03:38:18,100
you.

4426
03:38:18,100 --> 03:38:20,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

4427
03:38:25,100 --> 03:38:27,100
>>Anybody else?And I shall close the

4428
03:38:27,100 --> 03:38:31,100
public hearing, Mr. Menchu, you care to

4429
03:38:31,100 --> 03:38:34,100
respond any of these comments?

4430
03:38:34,100 --> 03:38:35,100
>>I have one more.

4431
03:38:35,100 --> 03:38:39,100
>>I'm sorry, I have closed it. I've

4432
03:38:39,100 --> 03:38:41,401
close the public hearing.

4433
03:38:50,100 --> 03:38:51,100
>>Mr. Chairman, we appreciate the

4434
03:38:51,100 --> 03:38:52,100
planning commission in public speaking,

4435
03:38:52,100 --> 03:38:53,100
I think it's entered its fourth hour,

4436
03:38:53,100 --> 03:38:54,100
I'm not going to go through and give

4437
03:38:54,100 --> 03:38:57,100
you a longer bottle, we stand by the

4438
03:38:57,100 --> 03:39:00,100
veracity of the application, with that,

4439
03:39:00,100 --> 03:39:03,100
We yelled back the 40 you.

4440
03:39:03,100 --> 03:39:04,100
>>Thank you, sir.

4441
03:39:04,100 --> 03:39:06,401
>>Commissioners, it's our opportunity

4442
03:39:10,100 --> 03:39:11,100
to discuss what we've heard here. I

4443
03:39:11,100 --> 03:39:12,100
looked to my right, any discussions,

4444
03:39:12,100 --> 03:39:15,100
comments?Me, will say something. My

4445
03:39:15,100 --> 03:39:18,100
thoughts and opinionsRight now are

4446
03:39:18,100 --> 03:39:22,100
mainly the fact thatI am not confident

4447
03:39:22,100 --> 03:39:25,100
because ofThere's not enough, There's

4448
03:39:28,100 --> 03:39:29,100
not enough detail there's not enough

4449
03:39:29,100 --> 03:39:31,100
enforceableItems within the proffers

4450
03:39:31,100 --> 03:39:35,100
that we canDick our teeth into and

4451
03:39:35,100 --> 03:39:37,100
enforce it. I'm just not sure what that

4452
03:39:37,100 --> 03:39:40,100
looks like, I personally don't feel

4453
03:39:40,100 --> 03:39:43,100
confidentIn the materials, We have

4454
03:39:45,100 --> 03:39:46,100
enough in here. I will start off with

4455
03:39:46,100 --> 03:39:47,100
that commentAnd then I'll probably come

4456
03:39:47,100 --> 03:39:49,100
back.

4457
03:39:50,100 --> 03:39:51,100
>>Mr. Whitaker?

4458
03:39:51,100 --> 03:39:54,601
>>Yes.In supportOf our beautiful ag

4459
03:39:56,100 --> 03:40:00,100
land that we have hereIn the Valley,

4460
03:40:00,100 --> 03:40:04,801
food is a national security, So I can't

4461
03:40:06,100 --> 03:40:07,100
see having something like this, drains

4462
03:40:07,100 --> 03:40:09,100
or resources and hurts our abilityTo

4463
03:40:09,100 --> 03:40:13,100
produce food. This valley is the size

4464
03:40:13,100 --> 03:40:17,201
of a valley in ChinaAnd maybe one

4465
03:40:18,100 --> 03:40:19,100
billion people. We should not give up

4466
03:40:19,100 --> 03:40:20,100
an inch of it.

4467
03:40:20,100 --> 03:40:22,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

4468
03:40:28,100 --> 03:40:29,100
>>Mr. Chairman, first of all, I want to

4469
03:40:29,100 --> 03:40:31,100
thank you folks for being here, Your

4470
03:40:31,100 --> 03:40:35,201
good citizens and I want to thankFor

4471
03:40:37,100 --> 03:40:38,100
all the emails I received, I apologize

4472
03:40:38,100 --> 03:40:40,100
for not responding to each one, Because

4473
03:40:40,100 --> 03:40:41,100
I need at least four hours of sleep at

4474
03:40:41,100 --> 03:40:44,100
night, But I will do my bestThe circle

4475
03:40:44,100 --> 03:40:48,100
back around.I have spoken with folksIn

4476
03:40:48,100 --> 03:40:51,100
Loudoun County, Spoken with staffers in

4477
03:40:51,100 --> 03:40:55,201
Fairfax County, I have spoken with a

4478
03:40:56,100 --> 03:41:00,100
lot of you and I have attended many

4479
03:41:00,100 --> 03:41:02,100
Citizens gatherings regardingThe

4480
03:41:04,100 --> 03:41:06,100
center, listen experts on both sides

4481
03:41:06,100 --> 03:41:09,100
and the bottom line isThere are several

4482
03:41:09,100 --> 03:41:12,100
concerns that I have. The first one,

4483
03:41:12,100 --> 03:41:16,100
believe it or not, isThe value of your

4484
03:41:16,100 --> 03:41:19,100
homesHereThe second that theBoard of

4485
03:41:22,100 --> 03:41:25,100
SupervisorsApproves this, I am not

4486
03:41:26,100 --> 03:41:30,201
saying they are, your values drop. The

4487
03:41:32,100 --> 03:41:33,100
second you put a for sale sign on your

4488
03:41:33,100 --> 03:41:36,601
house, you've got to provide the

4489
03:41:42,100 --> 03:41:43,100
material fact that yes, there is going

4490
03:41:43,100 --> 03:41:44,100
to be a data center in my backyard. The

4491
03:41:44,100 --> 03:41:45,100
Council would mind having a data center

4492
03:41:45,100 --> 03:41:46,100
in his backyard. None of us here want

4493
03:41:46,100 --> 03:41:49,100
that. And therefore you're either going

4494
03:41:49,100 --> 03:41:50,100
to be stuck with the house, you're

4495
03:41:50,100 --> 03:41:51,100
going to be underwater, you're going to

4496
03:41:51,100 --> 03:41:54,100
foreclose, there's just a lot of bad

4497
03:41:54,100 --> 03:41:56,100
things when it comes to that. The

4498
03:41:56,100 --> 03:42:00,801
second thing is the noise.And we have

4499
03:42:05,100 --> 03:42:06,100
beat that horse to death, water we beat

4500
03:42:06,100 --> 03:42:07,100
to death and pollution. So those are my

4501
03:42:07,100 --> 03:42:09,100
comments, And so I can't tell you what

4502
03:42:09,100 --> 03:42:15,100
my vote is now, But I want you to know

4503
03:42:15,100 --> 03:42:16,100
the why before I do the how. Thank

4504
03:42:16,100 --> 03:42:17,100
you.

4505
03:42:17,100 --> 03:42:19,100
>>Any other comments?Any comments,

4506
03:42:19,100 --> 03:42:21,100
discussion?Yes, ma'am?

4507
03:42:27,100 --> 03:42:28,100
>>Yes, I mean, I think we need to

4508
03:42:28,100 --> 03:42:32,201
figure outWhat we are doing a little

4509
03:42:36,100 --> 03:42:37,100
bit, I don't think we know enough about

4510
03:42:37,100 --> 03:42:38,100
all of this, like Liz was saying, we

4511
03:42:38,100 --> 03:42:39,100
have one tiny little data center in

4512
03:42:39,100 --> 03:42:41,100
Middletown, correct?And then to go from

4513
03:42:41,100 --> 03:42:44,100
one to10, 12 more, 1011 more, however

4514
03:42:47,100 --> 03:42:52,401
many,I think we have a lot moreStudy we

4515
03:42:53,100 --> 03:42:56,100
need to do on it and there's too many

4516
03:42:56,100 --> 03:42:59,100
concerns and I thinkThe public has

4517
03:42:59,100 --> 03:43:02,100
really brought out a lot of thatAnd

4518
03:43:02,100 --> 03:43:04,100
they have been very eloquently and

4519
03:43:04,100 --> 03:43:07,100
knowledgeable in that and I think we

4520
03:43:07,100 --> 03:43:09,100
need to take those concerns to heart.

4521
03:43:09,100 --> 03:43:11,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

4522
03:43:16,100 --> 03:43:20,201
>>I just want toRepeat what some other

4523
03:43:23,100 --> 03:43:24,100
commissioners of said. First of all,

4524
03:43:24,100 --> 03:43:25,100
thank you for being here and the

4525
03:43:25,100 --> 03:43:27,401
involvement that I've seenThroughout,

4526
03:43:31,100 --> 03:43:32,100
it's been six weeks, two months of

4527
03:43:32,100 --> 03:43:33,100
citizen involvement in the information

4528
03:43:33,100 --> 03:43:34,100
that I received from for citizens and

4529
03:43:34,100 --> 03:43:35,100
the passion that I saw, the commitment

4530
03:43:35,100 --> 03:43:39,801
to our economyIs, it makes you proud to

4531
03:43:40,100 --> 03:43:41,100
be here. So thank you for that

4532
03:43:41,100 --> 03:43:44,601
participation. I will say also thatWe

4533
03:43:48,100 --> 03:43:49,100
want to have companies come to us, we

4534
03:43:49,100 --> 03:43:50,100
want to have businesses here, and I

4535
03:43:50,100 --> 03:43:53,601
appreciateYou coming here. Let me say

4536
03:43:54,100 --> 03:43:55,100
to a more personal note I worked with

4537
03:43:55,100 --> 03:43:56,100
Mr. macho is a delegateWhen I was on

4538
03:43:56,100 --> 03:43:58,100
the school board and I give him much

4539
03:43:58,100 --> 03:44:02,801
respect and support. He is an honest man

4540
03:44:04,100 --> 03:44:05,100
And I appreciate his representation to

4541
03:44:05,100 --> 03:44:09,801
us during that period of time.But with

4542
03:44:10,100 --> 03:44:11,100
that being said, I think there's much

4543
03:44:11,100 --> 03:44:15,201
more that we need to learnAndTo protect

4544
03:44:16,100 --> 03:44:20,100
our county is what our job is.

4545
03:44:20,100 --> 03:44:22,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

4546
03:44:22,100 --> 03:44:24,100
>>Mr. Martin?

4547
03:44:26,100 --> 03:44:29,601
>>Yes, I think theReward that comes

4548
03:44:30,100 --> 03:44:34,100
with the data centerIs not quite worse

4549
03:44:34,100 --> 03:44:36,100
the risk and it's not quite worth the

4550
03:44:36,100 --> 03:44:40,201
intrusion.And on top of that, the

4551
03:44:41,100 --> 03:44:43,401
locationOf our ValleyDoesn't makeLogic,

4552
03:44:49,100 --> 03:44:52,601
Logical senseFor a data centerAnd the

4553
03:44:55,100 --> 03:44:58,601
other part of locationIsNear peopleIs a

4554
03:45:00,100 --> 03:45:04,801
problem.So we need to deal withA setback

4555
03:45:10,100 --> 03:45:11,100
that's a whole lot bigger than what we

4556
03:45:11,100 --> 03:45:14,100
are dealing with.So as a community, As

4557
03:45:14,100 --> 03:45:17,100
a board, We need to come up with better

4558
03:45:17,100 --> 03:45:19,401
guardrailsRegardless of the outcomeOn

4559
03:45:22,100 --> 03:45:24,100
this project.

4560
03:45:30,100 --> 03:45:33,100
>>One more note, Development, we are

4561
03:45:33,100 --> 03:45:36,601
not against, Development is going to

4562
03:45:38,100 --> 03:45:39,100
happen, it's just the right

4563
03:45:39,100 --> 03:45:41,100
development, the right timeAnd with

4564
03:45:41,100 --> 03:45:44,100
this project not beingIn conformance,

4565
03:45:48,100 --> 03:45:49,100
like it's in general conformance with

4566
03:45:49,100 --> 03:45:50,100
the conference of plan, generally. This

4567
03:45:50,100 --> 03:45:52,100
project, the scaleNeeds to be a

4568
03:45:52,100 --> 03:45:54,100
slamdunk and we're just not there yet.

4569
03:45:54,100 --> 03:45:57,100
So again,It's not in conformance.

4570
03:45:57,100 --> 03:45:59,100
>>Thank you.

4571
03:45:59,100 --> 03:46:01,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

4572
03:46:04,100 --> 03:46:05,100
>>I would also like to thank you for

4573
03:46:05,100 --> 03:46:07,100
being here tonight, You've stayed here

4574
03:46:07,100 --> 03:46:10,100
it's almost 11 o'clock. I realize the

4575
03:46:10,100 --> 03:46:13,601
seats get hard after 8 o'clockAnd I

4576
03:46:15,100 --> 03:46:16,100
commend you for hanging in there, your

4577
03:46:16,100 --> 03:46:19,100
concern for Frederick CountyAnd it's

4578
03:46:19,100 --> 03:46:22,100
condition and wanting to maintain

4579
03:46:23,100 --> 03:46:24,100
quality of life that we all enjoy and

4580
03:46:24,100 --> 03:46:27,100
came here forIs admirable and I want to

4581
03:46:27,100 --> 03:46:31,201
certainly commend you on that. I agree

4582
03:46:32,100 --> 03:46:33,100
with comments commissioners, I just

4583
03:46:33,100 --> 03:46:36,100
don't thinkWe are well prepared for a

4584
03:46:36,100 --> 03:46:40,801
project of this size at this point.I

4585
03:46:42,100 --> 03:46:43,100
advocated, begin educating six months

4586
03:46:43,100 --> 03:46:44,100
ago for us to come up with policy

4587
03:46:44,100 --> 03:46:45,100
statements dealing with data centers

4588
03:46:45,100 --> 03:46:47,100
and I promise you I will continue to

4589
03:46:47,100 --> 03:46:51,201
work on thatWith the board and advocate

4590
03:46:54,100 --> 03:46:55,100
for that, it's hard for us to make

4591
03:46:55,100 --> 03:46:56,100
changes to the rules when we are in the

4592
03:46:56,100 --> 03:46:57,100
middle of the rezoning.That's the

4593
03:46:57,100 --> 03:47:01,100
challenge that we have.So this one will

4594
03:47:01,100 --> 03:47:05,100
move forward andWe'll see how the Board

4595
03:47:05,100 --> 03:47:09,100
of Supervisors responds to it. So this

4596
03:47:09,100 --> 03:47:12,100
is in the Stonewall district, so I'll

4597
03:47:12,100 --> 03:47:15,100
call on my Stonewall Commissioner to

4598
03:47:15,100 --> 03:47:17,100
Make a motion.

4599
03:47:21,100 --> 03:47:22,100
>>Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First I

4600
03:47:22,100 --> 03:47:23,100
would like to think everybody here

4601
03:47:23,100 --> 03:47:25,100
tonight taking time out of your

4602
03:47:25,100 --> 03:47:26,100
schedules and from your family to come

4603
03:47:26,100 --> 03:47:29,100
participate and be part of this.Those

4604
03:47:29,100 --> 03:47:33,201
of you who came to the information

4605
03:47:36,100 --> 03:47:37,100
session, those who sent us emails,

4606
03:47:37,100 --> 03:47:38,100
thank you, stay engaged. I would also

4607
03:47:38,100 --> 03:47:40,100
like to thank the applicant, the team

4608
03:47:40,100 --> 03:47:41,100
through the process is been willing to

4609
03:47:41,100 --> 03:47:44,100
engage with staff and commissioners and

4610
03:47:44,100 --> 03:47:45,100
residents can answer questions and

4611
03:47:45,100 --> 03:47:49,201
respond to concerns and make changes to

4612
03:47:50,100 --> 03:47:51,100
Their proposal and I think that type of

4613
03:47:51,100 --> 03:47:55,201
work together is important. I think our

4614
03:47:56,100 --> 03:47:57,100
County benefits from the mix of land

4615
03:47:57,100 --> 03:47:58,100
use, residential neighborhoods,

4616
03:47:58,100 --> 03:48:00,100
commercial development, agricultural

4617
03:48:00,100 --> 03:48:02,100
Operations. Each of these contributes

4618
03:48:02,100 --> 03:48:05,100
to the economicVitality in the

4619
03:48:05,100 --> 03:48:08,100
community we live in, The challenge

4620
03:48:08,100 --> 03:48:12,801
before usIt is not does this have value

4621
03:48:13,100 --> 03:48:17,201
but how do we mitigateWhen those land

4622
03:48:20,100 --> 03:48:21,100
uses come together. That is the

4623
03:48:21,100 --> 03:48:22,100
challenge here for us tonight. I

4624
03:48:22,100 --> 03:48:25,601
appreciate the benefits of this project

4625
03:48:26,100 --> 03:48:27,100
, But in its current form I don't

4626
03:48:27,100 --> 03:48:28,100
believe that the application

4627
03:48:28,100 --> 03:48:29,100
sufficiently mitigates the potential

4628
03:48:29,100 --> 03:48:30,100
impacts to the neighboring residential

4629
03:48:30,100 --> 03:48:33,601
uses.There's too many noise questions

4630
03:48:34,100 --> 03:48:38,100
and the buffers don't seem adequate for

4631
03:48:38,100 --> 03:48:39,100
this highly intensive data center campus

4632
03:48:39,100 --> 03:48:42,601
That's scope and scale isn't properly

4633
03:48:44,100 --> 03:48:47,601
mitigated. Therefore a move to recommend

4634
03:48:53,100 --> 03:48:54,100
For the Virginia technology part.

4635
03:48:54,100 --> 03:48:55,100
>>We have a motion. As her second?

4636
03:48:55,100 --> 03:48:56,100
>>We have a motion and a second. Getting

4637
03:48:56,100 --> 03:48:58,401
further discussion? Minister Whitaker,

4638
03:48:59,100 --> 03:49:00,100
let me pause. The motions for denial,

4639
03:49:00,100 --> 03:49:02,100
if you vote yes you are agreeing that

4640
03:49:02,100 --> 03:49:06,100
you want to recommend denial. If you

4641
03:49:06,100 --> 03:49:07,100
vote no you're saying no, I don't want

4642
03:49:07,100 --> 03:49:09,100
denial. We are? Mr. Whitaker, can you

4643
03:49:09,100 --> 03:49:11,100
begin, please?

4644
03:49:11,100 --> 03:49:13,100
>>Yes to denial.

4645
03:49:13,100 --> 03:49:15,100
>>Yes.

4646
03:49:16,100 --> 03:49:17,100
>>Yes.

4647
03:49:17,100 --> 03:49:18,100
>>Yes.

4648
03:49:18,100 --> 03:49:19,100
>>Yes.

4649
03:49:19,100 --> 03:49:20,100
>>Yes.

4650
03:49:20,100 --> 03:49:22,100
>>Yes.

4651
03:49:22,100 --> 03:49:23,100
>>Yes.

4652
03:49:23,100 --> 03:49:25,100
>>Yes.

4653
03:49:27,100 --> 03:49:28,100
>>The chair votes yes and the motion

4654
03:49:28,100 --> 03:49:29,100
carries.This will go to the

4655
03:49:29,100 --> 03:49:31,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

4656
03:49:50,100 --> 03:49:51,100
This will go to the Board of

4657
03:49:51,100 --> 03:49:52,100
Supervisors on July 8 with a

4658
03:49:52,100 --> 03:49:54,100
recommendation for denialAnd we need to

4659
03:49:54,100 --> 03:49:56,100
do anything else?

4660
03:49:57,100 --> 03:50:00,100
>>No, Mr. Chairman, just a reminder,

4661
03:50:00,100 --> 03:50:02,100
June 9, data center.

4662
03:50:05,100 --> 03:50:06,100
>>Next Tuesday.

4663
03:50:06,100 --> 03:50:09,100
>>June 17,Data session, work session

4664
03:50:14,100 --> 03:50:15,100
with the Board of Supervisors. Thank

4665
03:50:15,100 --> 03:50:16,100
you, Mr. chair.

4666
03:50:16,100 --> 03:50:17,100
>>Glad to entertain a motion for

4667
03:50:17,100 --> 03:50:18,100
adjournment.

4668
03:50:18,100 --> 03:50:19,100
>>So move.

4669
03:50:19,100 --> 03:50:20,100
>>Second? You guys be careful going

4670
03:50:20,100 --> 03:50:21,100
home.

4671
03:50:21,100 --> 03:50:22,100
>>Residents, I still need

4672
03:50:22,100 --> 03:50:24,100
signatures.