1 00:00:02,830 --> 00:00:06,490 We are going to have a meeting with the public office. 2 00:00:08,970 --> 00:00:09,810 We have a meeting with the public. 3 00:00:11,410 --> 00:00:12,650 It's the meeting. 4 00:00:13,150 --> 00:00:13,890 It's the meeting. 5 00:00:16,410 --> 00:00:18,890 We have to do a meeting. 6 00:00:19,910 --> 00:00:20,070 Okay. 7 00:00:21,030 --> 00:00:22,590 That meeting out. 8 00:00:23,550 --> 00:00:23,650 Great. 9 00:00:24,270 --> 00:00:25,790 John, if you want to make wrong call. 10 00:00:27,110 --> 00:00:27,930 It's not good. 11 00:00:29,550 --> 00:00:30,450 That's out of total. 12 00:00:30,450 --> 00:00:31,070 Alright. 13 00:00:31,070 --> 00:00:31,070 How 14 00:00:33,860 --> 00:00:34,840 you? 15 00:00:35,180 --> 00:00:36,360 Yes, like in years. 16 00:00:36,820 --> 00:00:37,440 I'm doing this. 17 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:37,640 Here. 18 00:00:37,940 --> 00:00:38,840 Just take that. 19 00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:39,400 Here. 20 00:00:40,180 --> 00:00:40,340 Here. 21 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,890 Can you give me any extra? 22 00:00:45,310 --> 00:00:45,850 Here. 23 00:00:46,990 --> 00:00:48,650 I've got your shuff, there. 24 00:00:48,650 --> 00:00:48,890 Somewhere, so. 25 00:00:49,050 --> 00:00:49,270 To mine. 26 00:00:51,310 --> 00:00:51,810 Oh, hang on. 27 00:00:52,790 --> 00:00:53,710 We have to go. 28 00:00:53,710 --> 00:00:53,970 We think we're going to get started. 29 00:00:54,010 --> 00:00:56,170 We have fiveления earrings tonight. 30 00:00:57,490 --> 00:00:59,470 The sign up should in the front is for you. 31 00:00:59,490 --> 00:01:01,150 One if you sign up. 32 00:01:01,150 --> 00:01:07,610 Some of y'all didn't put the amount that I want the agenda, if you didn't, and you still want to sign up to speak tonight. 33 00:01:08,430 --> 00:01:09,830 We would appreciate that. 34 00:01:10,470 --> 00:01:12,870 We have another sheet we can put out there. 35 00:01:13,190 --> 00:01:14,110 They said it's 36 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,320 all for the first one. 37 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,660 I think we're done, but I can put that on as well. 38 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:30,200 So I think our wants to be for any of the items with sign up to so we can call on you. 39 00:01:31,670 --> 00:01:38,850 All right, we're going to get started with the public hearing for a request of Z-2601 proposed text 40 00:01:38,850 --> 00:01:45,090 and MS regarding, especially, oriented business based shops, game scale partners and tattooed studios. 41 00:01:45,870 --> 00:01:53,110 The proposed text and MS for section 2.1, third, zero, section 3.2, the zero, the section 3.3, 42 00:01:53,110 --> 00:02:00,550 zero and section 4.50. So with the public hearings, we're going to have staff make a presentation 43 00:02:00,550 --> 00:02:07,050 and I'll open the public here and we'll have to go into the statement side up. We also have 44 00:02:07,050 --> 00:02:11,890 the new gadget that times you. So we get three minutes and when you get up to the podium, 45 00:02:12,030 --> 00:02:16,590 you'll see that you have a regular level like a regular level. So at one minute, a yellow light 46 00:02:16,590 --> 00:02:22,850 and then go on. And with red one goes on, you know, to wrap up so that everyone gets a chance to 47 00:02:22,850 --> 00:02:25,730 you know, we asked for a trap door, but they didn't put that in the 48 00:02:25,730 --> 00:02:25,850 section. 49 00:02:27,290 --> 00:02:27,730 All right. 50 00:02:28,230 --> 00:02:32,050 So we're going to start with for a one presentation by 51 00:02:32,610 --> 00:02:33,130 staff. 52 00:02:33,370 --> 00:02:33,890 Yes. 53 00:02:34,070 --> 00:02:35,070 Good evening commissioner. 54 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,600 To provide a brief synopsis of the purpose of this text 55 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,080 amendment. 56 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,640 I know there's a lot of questions out there on what the city's trying to 57 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:50,120 do by making these changes. 58 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,560 And what we're attempting to do is provide more 59 00:02:55,860 --> 00:03:00,980 restrictions or these types of uses to get ahead of the game when they do come in and try 60 00:03:00,980 --> 00:03:09,400 to protect the areas of the community, the residential areas. And so we're placing these in 61 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:15,700 an M2 districts, which are medium and if capturing, they tend we only have about three areas in 62 00:03:15,700 --> 00:03:23,060 the city that are so into manufacturing. And if you see on the markets those green areas, 63 00:03:23,060 --> 00:03:32,020 the Dan is circling with the cursor. It's when we'd love for their providing more protection 64 00:03:32,020 --> 00:03:40,020 to our residential districts and other retail and general business districts. And so this, 65 00:03:40,020 --> 00:03:45,480 this is not to make it easier for these types of businesses to come in, it's to provide more 66 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:52,200 guidance on where they can go and protect other districts from those types of uses. 67 00:03:53,240 --> 00:04:00,740 Therefore, to just get started with the changes that are made to this, to the ordinance. 68 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:08,720 We are adding definitions of these types of businesses, including CBD. 69 00:04:09,460 --> 00:04:11,340 And I can go more into it if you'd like. 70 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,080 There are quite a bit of changes in this amendment. 71 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:37,800 Definition for CBD. Definition for E cigarette. Game of skill-parallel, sexually oriented business, smoke tobacco, CBD, CED store, tattoo studio, tobacco, tobacco paraphernalia, tobacco product, bake shop, and papers smoking services. 72 00:04:38,700 --> 00:04:47,320 Now, most of those uses other than the sexually oriented businesses are the ordinances being 73 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:56,000 amended to add those uses to the C2 commercial district, but they will be subject to a conditional 74 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:56,900 use permit. 75 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:04,880 So our conditional use permit chart will be amended to list these uses and require in addition 76 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:12,160 to a BNSE2, they will also have to go before the mining and selling commission and city council 77 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:18,740 for review and approval of the proposed use within that C2 district. 78 00:05:22,020 --> 00:05:30,540 In addition to that, we are adding guidelines as to distances that these uses are going to be 79 00:05:30,540 --> 00:05:38,520 to be from from other uses. And for the vape shop, the game of skill, 80 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:43,840 parlor, and the tattoo studio, the conditional use permit required. 81 00:05:44,420 --> 00:05:47,820 The conditional use permit will also require the distance requirements. 82 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,780 And they're all the same. It's five hundred feet measured property line 83 00:05:51,780 --> 00:05:57,140 to property line from school, public or private, a family day care home, 84 00:05:57,140 --> 00:06:01,280 child care facility, use center, community center, recreational facility, 85 00:06:01,700 --> 00:06:06,120 park church, religious institution, hospital, or other similar uses 86 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,100 where children regularly gather. In addition to that, 87 00:06:10,100 --> 00:06:16,120 tattoos, all those uses shall not be located within 1,500 feet, measured, 88 00:06:16,660 --> 00:06:21,140 property lines, and property lines from another of the same use. So, from 89 00:06:21,140 --> 00:06:26,000 either another tattoo studio or from another big shop, they will additionally 90 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,360 have to meet that 1500 distance requirement from each other. 91 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,920 And any, it also states that 92 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:40,080 any of these types of uses that are legally existing on the effective date of this when this 93 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:46,820 ordinance is enacted, they may continue to operate as non-conforming uses and they'll not be required 94 00:06:46,820 --> 00:06:51,160 to obtain the condition of use permit. If they're already in existence when this is adopted. 95 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:57,740 However, any change or expansion of that non-conforming use show required compliance with this 96 00:06:57,740 --> 00:07:00,500 and require a condition we use permit. 97 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,100 Now, the sexually oriented business estate in earlier 98 00:07:05,740 --> 00:07:09,780 would be listed under M2 Medmedium Manufacturing Districts 99 00:07:10,380 --> 00:07:15,260 with the additional required requirement of the condition we use permit, 100 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:20,140 which will vote before K&Z and City Council for public hearing 101 00:07:20,140 --> 00:07:22,400 and consideration review and consideration. 102 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,400 In addition, we do have the sessions. 103 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:37,420 Six, which talks about, essentially, oriented businesses. It also talks about our chapter 26 of our 104 00:07:37,420 --> 00:07:42,840 code of ordinances. And there, it talks about the location restrictions. And I looked at a minute ago, 105 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:48,620 it's a thousand feet. It's worth the code of ordinances. I'll read this from all those similar uses, 106 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:55,700 left schools and churches and datecares. So in addition to the condition or use permit requirement, 107 00:07:55,700 --> 00:07:59,140 and it will require those distances also. 108 00:08:01,290 --> 00:08:03,570 Therefore, staff is making a recommendation 109 00:08:03,570 --> 00:08:08,770 that this be approved with these proposed 110 00:08:08,770 --> 00:08:12,230 or maintenance and available for questions. 111 00:08:13,170 --> 00:08:14,190 Thank you, sir. 112 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:17,990 All right, I'm going to open the public hearing 113 00:08:18,550 --> 00:08:21,970 and I will call the names out to sign up for this. 114 00:08:22,150 --> 00:08:24,350 All right, I'm going to get off to the public hearing. 115 00:08:30,870 --> 00:08:35,410 Thank you very much. And thank you for your work on all this. Thank you for your work, too. 116 00:08:36,070 --> 00:08:41,590 But when I found this out about this amendment, I would represent the Good Samaritan Center, 117 00:08:41,590 --> 00:08:45,750 we're located at 140 Industrial Loop, which happens to be in the end too. 118 00:08:46,790 --> 00:08:51,810 And wanted to make sure that y'all are aware of some of the things that are on industrial, 119 00:08:51,810 --> 00:08:57,930 with there is a church on industrial with there is MHD, which is right next to part of our building. 120 00:08:58,230 --> 00:09:03,750 There's our clinic. There is new to Verizon, which is a adult daycare, and then there's also 121 00:09:03,750 --> 00:09:10,470 another nonprofit to our north. And so it's a tricky day. And also the county jails there and other 122 00:09:10,470 --> 00:09:18,070 places. And so it's a tricky area to have these businesses. And as I looked, and I completely appreciate 123 00:09:18,070 --> 00:09:23,250 the idea that M2 seems like a reasonable thing, but when you look at the one on 124 00:09:23,250 --> 00:09:28,370 highway street, that's supposed to be for primary school. It's also supposed to 125 00:09:28,370 --> 00:09:32,530 the high school and fairly close to the new middle school. And then, out on 126 00:09:32,530 --> 00:09:38,530 tidy day, all year close to the ground, you're close to the new sports fields and all 127 00:09:38,530 --> 00:09:43,510 those things. So, I don't even be your decision. I don't even be your work, but I wanted 128 00:09:43,510 --> 00:09:47,710 to make sure y'all are aware that there are some pretty sensitive areas in sensitive 129 00:09:47,710 --> 00:09:53,630 clientele, especially on industrial loot, go out there. There are really only a couple of 130 00:09:53,630 --> 00:10:01,050 manufacturing places out there at this point with SRM and maybe the T-shirt place that 131 00:10:01,050 --> 00:10:07,490 outside of that is pretty limited. So I wanted to make sure you're aware, one of my 132 00:10:07,490 --> 00:10:12,910 guess my protests that I would not welcome those businesses to be close to us and the other non-profits 133 00:10:12,910 --> 00:10:17,510 that are near us, and thank you for your time. I appreciate it. 134 00:10:18,390 --> 00:10:19,110 Thank you. Thank you, John. 135 00:10:22,660 --> 00:10:23,180 Dan McCoy. 136 00:10:26,270 --> 00:10:29,810 Well, thank you for letting me be here today. I'm Dean McCoy. I'm the CEO of Coventry 137 00:10:29,810 --> 00:10:34,610 Chocolate, and we're actually looking to run next door to the center that he was just talking 138 00:10:34,610 --> 00:10:39,510 about. It's a pleasure to be here, and I want to talk about this issue, because I think 139 00:10:39,510 --> 00:10:48,330 people often don't think about what he into means, it's just to be anything. So I've been 140 00:10:48,330 --> 00:10:50,590 week in home here and when I stepped out and said, 141 00:10:50,890 --> 00:10:52,490 yeah, oh, I came to French for a lot. 142 00:10:52,570 --> 00:10:54,410 Could we have a manufacturing facility? 143 00:10:54,950 --> 00:10:56,550 And could we make functional chocolate? 144 00:10:57,030 --> 00:10:59,950 So we looked around and we found this amazing spot 145 00:10:59,950 --> 00:11:00,750 at the center. 146 00:11:00,870 --> 00:11:02,070 We just talked about it. 147 00:11:02,070 --> 00:11:04,010 And that very had not been really developed. 148 00:11:05,090 --> 00:11:08,450 It certainly has some good structures or some great businesses 149 00:11:08,450 --> 00:11:09,950 there, but not a lot of development. 150 00:11:10,530 --> 00:11:11,810 So we acquired a building. 151 00:11:12,030 --> 00:11:14,190 We built two billion dollars in building 152 00:11:14,190 --> 00:11:16,410 the most technologically sophisticated chocolate 153 00:11:16,410 --> 00:11:18,230 after it in the Southern United States, 154 00:11:18,350 --> 00:11:21,110 here in Florida, as far as almost five years ago, 155 00:11:21,350 --> 00:11:23,130 I spent an amazing run in. 156 00:11:23,350 --> 00:11:26,050 We recruited local people, we trained them here 157 00:11:26,050 --> 00:11:28,010 as chocolateiers, and we recruited people from 158 00:11:28,010 --> 00:11:30,310 other towns, we trained local people to be chocolateiers, 159 00:11:30,850 --> 00:11:33,170 and we then able to be remarkably successful, 160 00:11:33,470 --> 00:11:34,810 it's doing an amazing run in. 161 00:11:34,930 --> 00:11:36,470 I showed you guys from some of you 162 00:11:36,470 --> 00:11:38,690 sitting on this panel on where we should put 163 00:11:38,690 --> 00:11:40,110 in a community factory, the facility, 164 00:11:40,370 --> 00:11:41,610 and not in contract with various 165 00:11:41,610 --> 00:11:42,810 like it down to a very spark, 166 00:11:42,810 --> 00:11:45,310 but to actually do it in various crank results. 167 00:11:45,310 --> 00:11:50,250 We put in landscaping and building and we brought in a million dollars of equipment from 168 00:11:50,250 --> 00:11:50,710 at the time. 169 00:11:50,990 --> 00:11:56,010 And I mean, for about a country to build this technology factory, and so it's created 170 00:11:56,010 --> 00:11:56,830 an amazing place. 171 00:11:57,090 --> 00:12:00,830 And right, these are before I came, we were like 30 minutes closing to that, because we had 172 00:12:00,830 --> 00:12:04,470 eight children in the shop, actually, that it came and visited the top of that. 173 00:12:04,610 --> 00:12:09,890 So we have a retail presence there in it, in fact, so I've provided two pages of written 174 00:12:09,890 --> 00:12:13,230 notes, and that are a really, really small file, and so you're going to have to look 175 00:12:13,230 --> 00:12:17,090 concentrated to read them, but I think this recommendation is a little bit 176 00:12:17,090 --> 00:12:21,290 discounted. This is an area that is gateway corridor to Prince 177 00:12:21,290 --> 00:12:26,230 Burke. It is right off to 90. We're a less than a hundred yards. We're at all 178 00:12:26,230 --> 00:12:30,850 the people coming in to the downtown. You know, the city is actually supported 179 00:12:30,850 --> 00:12:34,410 putting a tourist on it, actually pointing down at this area to the 180 00:12:34,410 --> 00:12:37,730 top of the factory. And, of course, the tax thought and their remarkable 181 00:12:38,390 --> 00:12:41,970 ability is holding up to the approval of that, but the city was strong enough 182 00:12:41,970 --> 00:12:46,790 step up and actually support it. So I would encourage you to go back to drawing work a little bit, 183 00:12:46,830 --> 00:12:51,130 because I think this is an issue that we need many other cities are actually restricting 184 00:12:51,130 --> 00:12:56,910 these businesses. They're not expanding opportunities. So I would say go back to drawing work. 185 00:12:57,010 --> 00:13:02,330 This isn't the right recommendation for this particular area for sure. I do not in be your decision. 186 00:13:02,550 --> 00:13:06,550 I do understand the pressures that have been on the city and these are not easy decisions 187 00:13:06,550 --> 00:13:12,490 been having legally and regulatory lives, but I would encourage you to take them to look. I think 188 00:13:12,490 --> 00:13:17,130 this is an area that is a success story. We certainly put our factory there because you 189 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:21,930 had to do often so that we could actually grow this area. I'd like to think that all the buildings 190 00:13:21,930 --> 00:13:26,070 in our area that are now paying you to black and the landscaping that is now done that we play 191 00:13:26,070 --> 00:13:31,090 a part in action sparring done. And so I would hope that you would attempt them to take this. 192 00:13:31,090 --> 00:13:31,710 Thank you, Susan. 193 00:13:32,090 --> 00:13:32,430 Thank you. 194 00:13:35,690 --> 00:13:36,630 Is that an answer? 195 00:13:37,290 --> 00:13:37,610 Okay. 196 00:13:38,050 --> 00:13:38,530 It's an answer. 197 00:13:44,820 --> 00:13:49,020 Thank you very much for the opportunity to express my opinion on this particular issue. 198 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:54,180 And I just, basically, want to echo a lot of things that are, as I said, I'm the owner of 199 00:13:54,180 --> 00:14:03,260 a professional business building there by the cross street from the council, the police department. 200 00:14:03,260 --> 00:14:07,120 And we've been there since finished the building in 2008. 201 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:12,140 We've been there a long time, and we established that business in order to provide a 202 00:14:12,140 --> 00:14:19,380 professional building where people could have applied area for the business and larger areas. 203 00:14:19,940 --> 00:14:22,880 And so we had our business there a while until I retired. 204 00:14:23,420 --> 00:14:26,880 And now we rent the building just by and up into several tenants. 205 00:14:27,020 --> 00:14:29,520 One is the church that's previously mentioned. 206 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:40,520 And we have a nonprofit, and we have a global accountants and a building contractor. 207 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:49,120 And so they like the area because they get this quiet, it's a professional, and we're 208 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:54,200 able to meet those needs and maybe we can better open years to make sure that it's that 209 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:54,960 time of area. 210 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,640 And the white comic is that this allowing these types of businesses. 211 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:07,900 The scenario will beg if the impact, not only my business, the other business in the area, and I think the decrease of property values. 212 00:15:08,620 --> 00:15:14,820 I think it will take on the rest of the tennis professional tennis harder to get. 213 00:15:15,340 --> 00:15:24,840 And I just think that for all the other reasons that I've mentioned, it's not a good idea to allow these types of businesses in that kick the area. 214 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:35,500 And I would say some of the things, but basically it's basically equity, some things that I've already said, so thank you very much for the opportunity. 215 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:36,640 Thank you. 216 00:15:40,070 --> 00:15:40,990 Read the Davis. 217 00:15:42,830 --> 00:15:43,410 Thank you. 218 00:15:47,540 --> 00:15:49,020 Thank you for letting me speak. 219 00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:50,640 I am read the Davis. 220 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,940 I work in the area that Mr. Manz just spoke of, 221 00:15:55,940 --> 00:16:03,900 around in this room. But I would also like to echo what Mr. Willenay said a little earlier. 222 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:13,200 Going to the Highways Street area, besides the primary school be there, there is a church. 223 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:25,320 Almost directly across the street from the primary school, and I know if I'm sure if they have youth meetings during the week. 224 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:32,560 Department of Complex where some folks have had some unfortunate situations in their life, 225 00:16:33,580 --> 00:16:39,040 some of them being addictions now live in that of the Department of Complex, but 226 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:48,080 possibly are not capable of keeping a full-time job due to their addictions and recovery process. 227 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:56,720 Moving over to just for a loop area, of course, there is a spichail right there and I seek a spichail. 228 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:06,260 People are turned loose sometimes, and they're facing here waiting for some kind of vibe or Uber or something like that to pick them up. 229 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,880 We have a church right there also. 230 00:17:09,380 --> 00:17:16,100 Tuesday evenings, they have an addiction program, and it's not just a K&A. 231 00:17:16,100 --> 00:17:24,600 education, such as drugs and sex addiction. One other night a week, they have a youth program that 232 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:34,240 means one evening a week every week you're around. The municipal court is also with Mr. Nancy's 233 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:40,940 of complex and one evening I believe it's twice a month and I'm not certain. I just found out about 234 00:17:40,940 --> 00:17:48,780 meeting in 522. So I'm not nearly as well prepared as the other speakers. But municipal court does 235 00:17:48,780 --> 00:17:58,580 hold a view court evening, starting at 5 o'clock. And I believe it's one evening twice a month. 236 00:17:58,740 --> 00:18:06,760 They have counselors coming in, a lot of the teenagers come. And so there's a certain evening 237 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:13,900 set aside for them. Moving on around to the women's shelter, a lot of these women that are there 238 00:18:13,900 --> 00:18:20,020 had to leave their home and not much of anything in the dead of night due to abuse, 239 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:27,660 maybe sexual abuse, not necessarily. Some of those women have their children with them. 240 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:34,920 Moving on around to the good Samaritan. There are children that come to the good Samaritan 241 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,560 with their parents or grandparents, I've seen children there quite often. 242 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:47,000 Okay, there's one to be sure that I'll track there. And then talking about across the street 243 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:53,380 from the gestural room, Fort Lawrence Scott, and the center that you should be the 244 00:18:53,380 --> 00:18:59,000 parent for nature here at the center, they have a lot of youth groups also. Thank you for the time 245 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,830 all of your work. Thank you, Stavis, 246 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,640 you come by home. Stop. 247 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,420 Okay, got it. All right, Dave White, 248 00:19:16,870 --> 00:19:17,390 thank you. 249 00:19:18,690 --> 00:19:22,570 Dave White, thank you again for all that you do. 250 00:19:22,790 --> 00:19:26,170 I know there's some difficult situations for you to have to think too. 251 00:19:26,770 --> 00:19:30,770 I would kind of echo what has been said. I'm concerned. 252 00:19:34,030 --> 00:19:44,650 And I am building on Adams, and that is not directly related to this, and, however, whatever, 253 00:19:44,650 --> 00:19:49,210 what is directly related to this is the mission is that we have to face as a community. 254 00:19:50,170 --> 00:20:00,210 It seems to me that I would be delighted for someone here to recognize this idea that this is opening a door 255 00:20:00,210 --> 00:20:12,790 that we would never be able to shut again, and that's my concern, is that this is opening the avenue for things that we don't want to have in front of you. 256 00:20:13,370 --> 00:20:14,990 And that's my concern. 257 00:20:15,870 --> 00:20:21,290 The other concern is that we're lumping these all together, as if they all are all the same level. 258 00:20:21,870 --> 00:20:23,380 And I don't believe they are. 259 00:20:23,380 --> 00:20:27,080 these issues should be tied to pick together. 260 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,900 So those are my concerns. Number one, this is opening a door. 261 00:20:32,420 --> 00:20:38,560 And are you have challenges enough in this town instead of opening a door 262 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:43,360 to issues that could be detrimental to them? 263 00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:47,480 I think we should open doors that could be beneficial to them. 264 00:20:48,260 --> 00:20:52,320 And so I'm just very concerned that this is a crack in the door 265 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:57,500 And I'm very concerned about the rippling effect of this. 266 00:20:57,820 --> 00:20:59,560 That it won't stop here. 267 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:04,260 It won't stop for this decision that you have to make. 268 00:21:04,780 --> 00:21:06,920 This is just the beginning of the decisions. 269 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,320 And so I had to spread it. 270 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,340 We'd like to just say, I'm absolutely opposed to being into that. 271 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:16,500 And why do we end up in what Arizona? 272 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,460 We're going to decide. 273 00:21:23,450 --> 00:21:31,450 Okay, there's no one else here that's inside up on allow a couple more people that's speaking between sign up. 274 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,760 And then I'm going to close that with hearing. 275 00:21:39,690 --> 00:21:44,210 And we will go to take action on it for those text and visit. 276 00:21:44,730 --> 00:21:47,130 I will put comments and questions from them. 277 00:21:49,570 --> 00:21:53,490 just to clarify, just to clarify as we come. 278 00:21:54,770 --> 00:21:58,590 Currently, all those functions are well bought right. 279 00:22:00,930 --> 00:22:02,050 And then some just to correct. 280 00:22:02,430 --> 00:22:04,150 Yes, they could be allowed. 281 00:22:04,910 --> 00:22:07,210 And so this makes it more restrictive. 282 00:22:08,210 --> 00:22:10,730 And that's the distance requirements. 283 00:22:11,170 --> 00:22:12,550 By law, I correct me. 284 00:22:12,750 --> 00:22:15,270 Make where you might claim further by law. 285 00:22:15,810 --> 00:22:19,990 We need to provide some place for them to go. 286 00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:29,610 We can't just say none can come into the city we can provide guidelines on where they can go and us what we're trying to do get ahead of it right now. 287 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:52,940 Unpreposed, not, you know, a location, a specific location, it's not being considered. We have an application for a month. This is to get ahead of if it being happened in the future and have better criteria to where they could go, what they would have to be, what restrictions they'd have to meet before they could locate and that place. 288 00:22:52,940 --> 00:22:58,820 just to the general public this the reason with us we proposed or brought this up a couple 289 00:22:58,820 --> 00:23:04,180 months back and the primary purpose of it is put in place a conditionary use permit that gives us 290 00:23:04,180 --> 00:23:09,380 a chance to know that because technically they can talk in the organization he gives us the chance 291 00:23:09,380 --> 00:23:13,600 to put it before public scrutiny and public hearings and those before planning is on it and it also 292 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:22,920 goes to proceed counsel that's not in place now so this is not a bad thing this is something to get 293 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:30,200 place. So I make a cut you off. Now that's fine. I make that spreadsheet. Is this on? Can you hear me? Yes, okay. 294 00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:36,920 Yeah, I think it's important, especially in relation to the safe training or any business 295 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:42,900 regulations. We already have those in place in our ordinances, but we have to identify 296 00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:49,920 zoning districts where they could possibly go. Usually we're trying to restrict those so that they don't 297 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,840 that surrounding residential users in some retail 298 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,400 uses as much as other parts of the town, 299 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,580 plus the distance regulations, 300 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,560 which we already have business regulations 301 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,380 and our orders for those types of businesses. 302 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,180 It's important to have those there. 303 00:24:05,340 --> 00:24:09,560 There are states that have been done academic 304 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,200 and other council studies to support the distance 305 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,780 that we have separated in our lives from churches, schools, 306 00:24:16,780 --> 00:24:24,920 and other similar uses, no we can't completely restrict the areas available in town to ban 307 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:31,520 the property, that's impossible under federal law. The other uses that we're addressing in 308 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:37,680 this order, where I'll put in one of this for consideration about PNC, they could be handled separately, 309 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:45,800 But there's been a lot of interests in particular and lately in the Bay uses, for, 310 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:49,340 the history of Texas has to be, has been to treat. 311 00:24:49,820 --> 00:24:55,860 The Bay shops, the same as tobacco stores, and we're pretty much preempted by 312 00:24:55,860 --> 00:24:58,480 the state wall and regulation of tobacco locations. 313 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,680 So the general retail is only, so we kind of, in this case, 314 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:11,760 stepped out a little bit to regulate our proposed regulation on that stops to try to 315 00:25:12,940 --> 00:25:19,300 alleviate the growth of both shops over time to reduce the level of growth and also to 316 00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:26,100 protect certain sensitive users from those as well. Mainland users that young people 317 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:26,720 pre-foot. 318 00:25:29,290 --> 00:25:33,570 So it was a good point though that this is several uses that are put into one ordinance 319 00:25:33,570 --> 00:25:39,310 but they in the uses are not the same but some of the regulatory authority we have are similar. 320 00:25:39,730 --> 00:25:43,390 So that's why it was brought to you as one of our plans. 321 00:25:43,710 --> 00:25:44,910 I'd be happy to answer your question. 322 00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:49,090 So you make up that question for me. 323 00:25:51,670 --> 00:25:52,790 First thing. 324 00:25:52,850 --> 00:25:56,510 A question for Mr. McKay. 325 00:25:58,150 --> 00:26:04,110 You're a business, but I heard the children actually. 326 00:26:08,370 --> 00:26:08,990 Susanna. 327 00:26:10,050 --> 00:26:12,430 Under Chapter 26. 328 00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:20,690 Does it say that one is what is the distance threshold? 329 00:26:20,690 --> 00:26:27,690 It cannot be within a thousand feet of a residential subdivision. 330 00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:29,570 That's correct. 331 00:26:30,210 --> 00:26:35,330 So, therefore, if you took it, we pulled up a Google Earth map. 332 00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:41,910 And I'm going to say, I'm going to pinpoint the chocolate factory. 333 00:26:42,590 --> 00:26:45,430 You had the opportunity tonight to bring Sam here. 334 00:26:54,590 --> 00:26:59,170 It's like some of us really need Thomas, not too lazy to leave and go. 335 00:27:00,570 --> 00:27:14,430 Okay, so if we won't let the Google round and through a thousand foot circle around your business, I think that would include every bit of industrial load. 336 00:27:14,430 --> 00:27:20,390 But it did, and all we had to do was about to do is draw a circle around 337 00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:24,750 30s for the church, and that would get the rest of them. 338 00:27:25,070 --> 00:27:33,810 So I think the intent of this ordinance is to say, this is where they're allowed to, 339 00:27:33,810 --> 00:27:39,610 they're allowed to exist in these zoning areas. And one thing that we've heard tonight 340 00:27:39,610 --> 00:27:43,390 It was probably unwise to talk. 341 00:27:43,790 --> 00:27:49,230 You've got three that are at C1 and one that is in the United 342 00:27:49,230 --> 00:27:49,630 Church. 343 00:27:50,550 --> 00:27:53,690 But all the discussion is about the one that's in the 344 00:27:53,690 --> 00:27:54,970 manufacturing tonight. 345 00:27:57,130 --> 00:28:09,590 So I think that Mr. McKinkey would agree that the idea of the 346 00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:17,960 certain areas. And these are the procedures that you have to go through. Maybe you can't 347 00:28:19,210 --> 00:28:28,070 because of the types of businesses and the types of the holes that are around the San 348 00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:35,330 Industrial Loop. Maybe there's an M2 someplace else that would be available where you could go. 349 00:28:35,330 --> 00:28:41,970 But I think state law does not allow us to ban things. Is that correct? 350 00:28:44,660 --> 00:28:45,960 You have to allow. 351 00:28:47,380 --> 00:28:48,940 No, we can't ban them from the jurisdiction. 352 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,400 Okay, so it's not available. 353 00:28:52,220 --> 00:28:57,420 Okay, it's the Constitution law as far as sexual and or in businesses are concerned. 354 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,560 And we can't ban any legal employees per second. 355 00:29:01,260 --> 00:29:02,340 Okay, under Texas law. 356 00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:29,200 So we have to provide some, we have to provide them some relief, but then we can regulate using state ball with distances as to how close they can be together, how close they can be to a sub-degent, how close they can be to a child care facility, how close they can be to a church, I'm sorry that there's no, they're about how close they can be to a child or factory. 357 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:48,380 But I think this, I think this, this ordinance or this tax amendment is trying to get to a problem before it becomes a problem because right now there is no right place. 358 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,800 Is that correct working can they work and they work if 359 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,640 It was her plot wanted to come in today. Where could they off? 360 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,640 But we do that. Currently, it's after 20 states of our code, some regulation on the dog business, 361 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,240 is it? 362 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,820 They could go into C2. 363 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:23,800 Which is the orange, if you look at the map, and there's more orange, C2, zoning districts, then there are. 364 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:29,300 that I want the M1s, I'm sorry the M2s, 365 00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:31,480 M2s can you show us where they are in, 366 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,720 and like in relation to, 367 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,700 in general with Leo's hand, but where the other M1s and the M2s. 368 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,840 So that dark green that, 369 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,960 that is being, is M2, 370 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,360 that dark green that, that we're circling with the cursor, 371 00:30:47,540 --> 00:30:48,300 right there, 372 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,400 and that's how we're going to be. 373 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,500 What is a little bit of this? Is that much more? 374 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,180 Yeah. It's the R.D. Park. 375 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,180 R.D. Park. 376 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,820 And then there's another dark green one down on. 377 00:31:02,820 --> 00:31:04,940 And there's a story that's written this story. 378 00:31:05,060 --> 00:31:06,680 One, two, three. 379 00:31:07,020 --> 00:31:07,680 Oh, and four. 380 00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:08,880 And what is this one? 381 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,280 What do you just want to do? 382 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:10,840 Business? 383 00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:16,360 And that was just a high grade. 384 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,120 It's a team. 385 00:31:22,540 --> 00:31:24,520 So that's the third one. 386 00:31:26,940 --> 00:31:29,080 That's the third one. 387 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,040 I guess a question really is if I'm too appropriate. 388 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:35,520 That's it. 389 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,060 That's the third one. 390 00:31:40,460 --> 00:31:42,660 That's the third one. 391 00:31:42,660 --> 00:31:42,800 That's the third one. 392 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,100 Look at the state of the lab. 393 00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:44,920 She wants to. 394 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:52,940 are important. We were trying to find a place that if you look at the C2, there's more C2 areas 395 00:31:52,940 --> 00:32:02,660 that are next to residential areas, and so we were trying to protect those areas and by putting 396 00:32:02,660 --> 00:32:10,380 them in the M2s, because there's fewer M2 districts, they're more towards the outskirts of town. 397 00:32:10,380 --> 00:32:16,980 And just to clarify, in the chapter 26, it's actually a dismissive business, and that has its own ordinance. 398 00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:22,660 I think we talked about this, and they have a little bit more restriction as to distance. 399 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:35,480 Yes, but they also are not allowed within a thousand eighth of residential areas, but that is not included in the list of places and restrictions. 400 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:43,540 It's not in this one-ordnance amendment, but it's already in chapter 26. 401 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:58,080 Correct, but we have included a 1500, I'm sorry, a 500 foot distance from certain uses and a 1500 for each other. 402 00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,740 And this proposed amendment. 403 00:32:59,740 --> 00:33:04,960 I'm the one who was the gentleman with six came and they'll be headmills, so these things they had been meditian. 404 00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:11,760 But again, the chapter 26 and I think that we're talking about the reason we can have some of those extra restrictions. 405 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,660 It would be kind of like that. 406 00:33:15,180 --> 00:33:16,980 Yes, that's a good point. 407 00:33:17,340 --> 00:33:18,960 I think that's a point there. 408 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,420 Just so you know, I represent a lot of these contexts on this issue and certification. 409 00:33:23,420 --> 00:33:27,240 We've been sentenced, I think I'll also be using this on to the rate of the Senate and 410 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:27,520 workers. 411 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:35,400 I know a lot, so I had to let it get these issues, so when we do anything related to the 412 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:42,860 statutory businesses, we have a lot of academic studies to support those business requirements. 413 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:49,440 We don't have those surveyed jobs, but we don't have those together in the city, so we're 414 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,140 trying to identify a distance for 415 00:33:53,140 --> 00:34:00,880 that we can support, even though, in the chapter 26, we know we can support the decisions that they're in there. 416 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,560 So it's something some ways, this is an experiment, especially on the VHOP issue. 417 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:16,460 In order to try to give them the average, you know, maybe we get it now, and also impact, we certainly can help it. 418 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,560 But we don't have studies like these experts that look at our businesses. 419 00:34:20,860 --> 00:34:26,880 So, Nick, is there any guidelines on stick, we want to take him to out of this and there's 420 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,420 only a C2 available, is that initiative? 421 00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:31,120 It can be. 422 00:34:32,260 --> 00:34:37,900 As it relates to sexual and business is it can be, we have to put the rule of thumb as we 423 00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:43,200 have to provide in our territory, which is the city limits of this jurisdiction, at least 424 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,340 10% of our whole area available for their use. 425 00:34:47,780 --> 00:34:54,180 And so we had to run the numbers and look at the rainy high of measurements, the pre-evitative 426 00:34:54,180 --> 00:34:58,100 use of distances to see if they had enough space. 427 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,100 Now, we don't have to move on to the label space for sale, for them to be able to be 428 00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:07,040 building, or whatever we want to do, and we just have to make sure it exists in the community. 429 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:15,080 So there are some limitations on big shops, and 10 to 2 fathers, we don't have similar requirements. 430 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,940 Just on the side frame, I don't know what you're doing this, I think. 431 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,180 And it's everything. 432 00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:22,940 It's made up of the opposition. 433 00:35:24,740 --> 00:35:30,560 The amount of it is essentially in the discussion 434 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,180 of the sexual law in the business. 435 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,200 There's no discussion of based, based, 436 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,000 shops or anything. 437 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:51,170 It seems to me though that with the M2, with the restrictions that are placed on sexually 438 00:35:51,170 --> 00:35:59,350 oriented businesses and where are M2 is located in the city of Fredericksburg, 439 00:36:01,610 --> 00:36:01,930 I believe 440 00:36:01,930 --> 00:36:12,190 every M2 is perhaps, every F2 is within a thousand feet of a residential area with making 441 00:36:12,190 --> 00:36:16,990 exception of M2 that's out on time to deal with. 442 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,880 They've got to be somewhere, but we run 443 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:34,160 about to stay all. So the issue, I guess, the issue that's where you put it. Where's the most 444 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:34,860 control of 445 00:36:36,940 --> 00:36:47,840 what's going to be the reason to do things down. And where if you're, if you're, if you're 446 00:36:49,060 --> 00:37:11,660 You know, looking at such as what he's got it, that you've got to meet these requirements, and then you start looking at the available M2 going, well I can't go here, and I can't go here, and I can't go here, and I can't go here, and I can't go here, do I want to go, do I want to do I want to be here, or do I want to go to the other city? 447 00:37:13,530 --> 00:37:14,930 That was the intent. 448 00:37:16,890 --> 00:37:18,590 Also, you can't forget that he had a conditioner. 449 00:37:18,850 --> 00:37:21,270 You experimented 13 requirements that had been met. 450 00:37:21,570 --> 00:37:22,470 And there's a child for requirements. 451 00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:24,090 But the most important one is, 452 00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:25,990 and a lot of everybody is noticed. 453 00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:27,890 Everybody is an opportunity to come in here. 454 00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:29,970 If I can come in on specific... 455 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:36,820 It tells us about it. In most cases, we listen, in death way, almost all cases, in council lists, there's two 456 00:37:36,820 --> 00:37:41,980 circuit records there that are built in and we're trying to put a place that are not at place currently. 457 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:49,000 So, for that reason, I'd like to make a motion that we improve the C-2601 effort. 458 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,680 And I was a second member. 459 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,360 All right, and for motion by June, second by Tom, any other discussion? 460 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:57,820 On date, right? 461 00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,980 On date, all those? 462 00:38:00,140 --> 00:38:01,160 All right. 463 00:38:01,580 --> 00:38:05,000 Motion carries this written, and goes to City Council for Young. 464 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,600 So I believe it's important. 465 00:38:10,460 --> 00:38:14,440 We should move on to the same discussion to the City Council patient. 466 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:15,560 We'll be in public directly. 467 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,720 All right, we're going to go to I. 468 00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:25,960 And before we request the Z-264, 469 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,540 a post-tex cement, 470 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,920 that requires multiple family residential businesses 471 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,260 within the C1 labor and commercial district. 472 00:38:32,420 --> 00:38:35,700 The proposed textments are a prefections report, 473 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,160 00, which in the C1 labor and commercial district. 474 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,560 All right, so then you're up again. 475 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,120 Yes. For this textment, 476 00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:49,900 the purpose of it is to create, 477 00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:57,160 To bring it more in line to how we are currently regulating other multi-family uses within the C1 districts. 478 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:09,680 So currently, for instance, town homes and duplexes, have the requirement of adding a conditional use permit process to any developments proposed within those districts. 479 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:26,700 You do have C1 districts that are closer to some single family residential areas, so it just provides oversight for when these developments are proposed in the C1 districts. 480 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:33,100 And as stated, we already do that for other multi-family developments within the C1 district. 481 00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:36,700 So it brings more in line to what's required. 482 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:50,800 Therefore, in the C1 district, multi-family will now require amendment is adopted, it will put in a requirement for conditional use permit and not allow it outright. 483 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,800 Well, thank you. 484 00:39:55,020 --> 00:39:57,300 And right now, I'm going to open the public hearing. 485 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,900 Is there anyone here? 486 00:39:59,220 --> 00:40:01,480 We would like to speak on this text a minute. 487 00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:07,360 Close the public hearing. 488 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,660 And we'll go, I will free take action on the proposed text in a minute. 489 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:13,720 Questions or comments? 490 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:15,960 Please check. 491 00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:18,400 Make it up for a little bit. 492 00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:21,600 I wish we could prove the 26 or 40. 493 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,160 And the other discussion, 494 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,740 we'll be right about the approach. 495 00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:44,220 We're going to go to item 4C. 496 00:40:44,580 --> 00:40:47,620 Request Z-2605 by Senator Timberman, 497 00:40:47,780 --> 00:40:48,560 and the Bureau of Theatre, 498 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,320 to consider a commissionary supervision 499 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,980 for Section 3.50 to establish and operate 500 00:40:53,980 --> 00:40:57,380 the standardized business in the historic shopping district 501 00:40:57,380 --> 00:41:00,220 overlaid from property commonly known as four away by 502 00:41:00,220 --> 00:41:01,240 Smith Street. 503 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,640 I don't care if I'm pleased myself for many years. 504 00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:05,040 I've done business with this company. 505 00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,540 I hope you continue to visit with some of the 506 00:41:07,540 --> 00:41:07,760 business. 507 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:08,340 All right. 508 00:41:08,820 --> 00:41:10,740 I will also be refusing myself and Mr. 509 00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:11,120 Muscle. 510 00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:13,660 Come up here and take over to me. 511 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,600 4605 and what presentation on the 512 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,220 Act of 513 00:41:39,260 --> 00:41:40,580 Mr. Acerry. 514 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,840 Well, we're going to hear from the city for 515 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:54,040 that fund first. That's fine. Yeah, I hope all of you got the information of parts 516 00:41:54,040 --> 00:42:02,960 were equipped and why do you felt like we've been there before because we had and we're 517 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:10,100 trying to move back home. So I don't know, hopefully we all got that to read, but just in case 518 00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:21,100 we had to read the two units that the 408 Main Street, who forwarded 501 on the hills is going to move back to us. 519 00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:25,300 We have a long, well-stacked history there. 520 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:34,020 At that location, we first bought, moved there in 1984. 521 00:42:34,020 --> 00:42:44,500 So we get business there at 14 May 1984. We were there until 1986. 522 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:48,180 Then we moved into 523 00:42:48,180 --> 00:43:18,160 four, four, six, main, and we were there at 14, I mean, four, four, six, and we were in that 524 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:26,060 at that location until 2017, when I sold the 2221 franchise. 525 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:36,280 That point, the minimum was to land on the street, and then now it's under a new 526 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:42,480 owner, but we still own the business, not still work there. So we're requesting to move back 527 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:50,600 to do that and altering our sense of 21 office out of our building for a week, also surely 528 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:57,480 help that we are allowed to do that, taxes are eating this, you know, alive. I don't know 529 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:04,500 about job, but I need a little income coming in from that building to help pay those taxes out 530 00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:15,040 And we are currently in the field, we don't have a sign of. 531 00:44:15,740 --> 00:44:19,940 And so hopefully there should be no problem. 532 00:44:20,260 --> 00:44:22,100 We don't need to have with us moving in there. 533 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,680 Is this any data to be found in some data? 534 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:34,460 You know, we all have the city, the preservation of the staff following your presentation. 535 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,840 Well, I mean, trying to keep it short. 536 00:44:37,060 --> 00:44:39,120 No, you all need to run like a long. 537 00:44:39,940 --> 00:44:42,300 So glad you've turned back to the city. 538 00:44:42,620 --> 00:44:44,520 Maybe not, you all have any comments? 539 00:44:44,740 --> 00:44:46,220 Question for me. 540 00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:51,840 I think that what I think that was the city that's a presentation. 541 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:59,560 and then we hold public hearing, the members of the Council might have questions for you or in the report. 542 00:45:05,820 --> 00:45:14,280 Yes, we received the conditional use permit application by the applicant to operate a standardized 543 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:21,060 business, which is a business that operates 10 or more stores or banks with standardized features 544 00:45:21,060 --> 00:45:29,380 in the historic shopping district, Vice in 321. The Hills Realty for the property that is located at 545 00:45:29,380 --> 00:45:37,700 It consists of a single-story multi-suite commercial property, which includes four-way to four-ten-west-main. 546 00:45:38,060 --> 00:45:49,560 And it contains an existing 6,394-square-foot building on an approximately 19,602-square-foot-lot. 547 00:45:51,260 --> 00:45:55,680 It has access to 13,000 square feet of paved parking. 548 00:45:57,780 --> 00:46:00,760 And it's located in the 400 block of West 549 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,380 main, which includes other businesses, 550 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,580 such as Marseille, Virgilary, Shotsie House, 551 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,840 Boopkeeping Tax Solutions, and Jolly's House 552 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:11,840 in Bed and Breakfast. 553 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,240 To the south, there are some auto-oriented businesses, 554 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,320 and staff feels the establishment of the real estate office 555 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,820 does not appear that it would detract 556 00:46:22,820 --> 00:46:49,040 from other business operations section 3.510 of the historic shopping district overlay allows for standardized businesses to the opportunity to request a condition we use permit with the ideal user adding diversity to existing businesses not in proximity to other similar retailers and that it would not alter the general characteristics of the surrounding area. 557 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:55,880 This is located with an CBD central business district with the historic district shopping overlay. 558 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:02,340 We did send out notices to all the surrounding property owners within 200 feet. 559 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:08,640 And we received one in one favor. Was that correct, one in favor? 560 00:47:09,980 --> 00:47:18,720 Section 4.5.461 establishes review and evaluation criteria for the historic shopping district. 561 00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:22,440 And it states that the Pline and Zoning Commission and City Council 562 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,280 shall review any applications for a conditional use permit 563 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,800 for standardized business within the historic shopping district, 564 00:47:32,260 --> 00:47:35,380 following the criteria listed in your pocket, 565 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,360 which is affirmative findings that the existence of such a business will not, 566 00:47:40,620 --> 00:47:46,840 and it lists for materially alter the general characteristics of us around being area, 567 00:47:47,860 --> 00:48:15,100 The track from the uniqueness of the shopping district contribute to the nationwide trend of standardized offerings, or impair the intent of this ordinance, or to the comprehensive plan of the city, and it requires for the PNZ and the City Council to find affirmative actions that it adds diversity, it complements surrounding businesses, and it helps promote and foster the local economic base as a goal. 568 00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:24,540 And in your, in your recommendation, I suggest that you list some of the criteria, what you 569 00:48:24,540 --> 00:48:28,400 find in either in favor or against this application. 570 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:39,380 And as stated by the applicant, they were previously located there, the original office by 571 00:48:39,380 --> 00:48:48,740 records operated there until 2019 and so therefore staff feels that given the use of the location 572 00:48:48,740 --> 00:48:53,520 was the original realtor office and there appears to be no proposed increase in intensity or 573 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:58,940 major changes to the building to make it look more standardized staff is recommending a approval 574 00:48:58,940 --> 00:49:00,480 of the request is presented. 575 00:49:03,770 --> 00:49:08,490 I'd like to open the public hearing. 576 00:49:10,590 --> 00:49:16,790 And it's a lovely sign up for the public hearing 577 00:49:17,890 --> 00:49:19,970 for 26.05. 578 00:49:21,410 --> 00:49:23,530 So I will pay it personally. 579 00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:30,050 I'd like to speak in the audience about this issue. 580 00:49:31,310 --> 00:49:34,110 I'm going to go to the mic, 581 00:49:40,450 --> 00:49:48,610 but I don't want to, okay, close the public hearing, and take action on the additional use format. 582 00:49:49,490 --> 00:49:54,890 So I want to open a discussion by the planning of zoning commission. 583 00:49:54,890 --> 00:50:03,170 So, I have question problem from Mac, what people ordinance that we're very standardized 584 00:50:03,170 --> 00:50:03,970 businesses. 585 00:50:11,610 --> 00:50:19,770 So, business that would qualify as its business at that time and continue to operate in 586 00:50:19,770 --> 00:50:24,970 their location as long as they operate in the same line of order. 587 00:50:27,820 --> 00:50:34,260 So what would happen if the business that was operating as a grandfather standardized business left 588 00:50:34,260 --> 00:50:35,440 application? 589 00:50:36,660 --> 00:50:46,140 For the non-conforming use, the grandfather used by Spiders, by like actually if it's the same 590 00:50:46,140 --> 00:50:51,880 business and they're temporarily a stop business, they can come back and operate in the same 591 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:52,560 location. 592 00:50:53,060 --> 00:50:57,540 It's a temporary outage of stop business, what qualifies it's temporary. 593 00:50:57,540 --> 00:51:04,900 I think under our ordinance, it's for 16, about days, but there are some provisions elsewhere in our 594 00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:07,880 code of order, just for 90 days, laps, 90 or not, too. 595 00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:11,900 So if you're in some of that, 596 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:19,900 but the selling of this and moving into the different building would, yes, that there's no more 597 00:51:19,900 --> 00:51:21,380 in poverty and no more grain poverty. 598 00:51:23,310 --> 00:51:25,920 I was in one of the, 599 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:26,540 Mr. Doody. 600 00:51:29,690 --> 00:51:31,650 This is change on me. 601 00:51:31,870 --> 00:51:36,730 I want to remind you that you gave up your grandfather, 602 00:51:36,930 --> 00:51:37,710 and when you left, 603 00:51:38,450 --> 00:51:40,550 you knew when you left, 604 00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:42,790 that you were losing your grandfather. 605 00:51:43,710 --> 00:51:47,230 And now you're back asking for a tool 606 00:51:47,230 --> 00:51:51,570 that I standardized business in the historic shopping district. 607 00:51:51,570 --> 00:51:55,430 And that is what the historic theme, 608 00:51:56,450 --> 00:52:00,590 change on the aim is designed to prohibit 609 00:52:00,590 --> 00:52:03,690 we don't want change on the aim, 610 00:52:03,930 --> 00:52:08,230 and unfortunately you are a change train business, 611 00:52:09,050 --> 00:52:09,810 plain and simple. 612 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,900 You have no defense, 613 00:52:16,460 --> 00:52:20,200 and we cannot allow you to do this because if we do, 614 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:28,660 Then we allow other chain businesses the opportunity to come in to this little shopping district. 615 00:52:33,730 --> 00:52:40,070 I would like to make a motion that why you chose the seat for anybody who wants to put in, if it has comments. 616 00:52:41,070 --> 00:52:42,010 So, read the comments. 617 00:52:43,050 --> 00:52:46,510 So, all of them, then, you know, the introduction of the ordinance. 618 00:52:47,450 --> 00:52:51,990 Do you have any background as to why if what they've produced an actor? 619 00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:56,810 In terms of why we felt as a city, let's put an important point. 620 00:52:56,810 --> 00:53:02,370 the ordinance, sorry, I hope we can prepare me. The ordinance itself, it's adopted in 2008, 621 00:53:02,670 --> 00:53:11,510 really set forth those reasons and that is to keep the character of the downtown historic downtown 622 00:53:11,510 --> 00:53:17,270 shopping districts. Basically the same is there a period of that time because there was a concern that 623 00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:24,330 there had been some deterioration as the uniqueness and local character and the insert and 624 00:53:24,330 --> 00:53:33,890 And the ordinance at that time has since been recognized as a device or a wave of the city 625 00:53:33,890 --> 00:53:41,170 to maintain the uniqueness, not only for tourism, which is an important part of the business 626 00:53:41,170 --> 00:53:51,770 industry, but also for the local nature of the retailers in town, and you're still a small 627 00:53:51,770 --> 00:54:12,770 community and the local nature of retail was considered at that time to be important. And actually, two months ago, the city council asked me and the city manager to formally, it took formal action to ask us to make the organizations stronger and that regard to protect those interests. 628 00:54:13,770 --> 00:54:20,170 And at that time, the City of Current City Council re-arranging those issues that they felt 629 00:54:20,170 --> 00:54:22,690 might need to be protected, which was presented. 630 00:54:23,870 --> 00:54:30,070 So, for us, I can tell nothing has changed for the 2019 today, as well as the members of the 631 00:54:30,070 --> 00:54:31,190 City Council. 632 00:54:31,310 --> 00:54:31,750 Thank you. 633 00:54:34,930 --> 00:54:35,470 I'm sorry. 634 00:54:35,730 --> 00:54:41,850 I was going to go with the Council in 2008, but we passed the standardized business 635 00:54:41,850 --> 00:54:51,630 or the feeling of the members of the council at that time, or the we need to do everything 636 00:54:51,630 --> 00:54:55,550 we could to protect the nature of the community. 637 00:54:56,030 --> 00:55:06,530 We saw the increase in standardized businesses and it's being detrimental to the 638 00:55:06,530 --> 00:55:14,490 of the small town, the small town field or German heritage. 639 00:55:17,350 --> 00:55:25,190 I have some disagreements with the staff, 640 00:55:25,350 --> 00:55:34,430 with the staff recommendations. Section 4.561, the review criteria says the plan and zoning 641 00:55:34,430 --> 00:55:40,290 commission and city council shall review and evaluate conditional use permits applications 642 00:55:40,290 --> 00:55:47,050 for all standardized businesses within the historic shopping district using the criteria 643 00:55:47,050 --> 00:55:55,110 and the criteria under a appropriate finding that the existence of such businesses will not 644 00:55:55,110 --> 00:56:05,590 And that's the key here is the two words we'll not want, materially, effect, general, 645 00:56:05,890 --> 00:56:11,190 characteristic of the surrounding area of small German town in the old country environment. 646 00:56:12,110 --> 00:56:18,210 I think the addition of standardized businesses on, on Main Street, Douglas, material, 647 00:56:18,210 --> 00:56:26,510 a materially effective, the general characteristics of the shopping district. Number two, it will not 648 00:56:26,510 --> 00:56:37,110 detract from the uniqueness of the material leave of the identity of the historic shopping district. 649 00:56:37,110 --> 00:56:47,050 a standardized business, the efficient standardized businesses to, to, to mainstream, of course, 650 00:56:47,170 --> 00:56:54,750 maturity holders, that the identity of that, that was the reason that we passed the standardized business 651 00:56:54,750 --> 00:57:03,930 organs in 2008 to try to preserve the data to downtown. Now, the three contribute to the 652 00:57:03,930 --> 00:57:12,930 my trend of standardized offerings. And it's a reason why businesses have to have standardization. 653 00:57:13,870 --> 00:57:21,690 It's all it's marketing, it's efficiency and business. Okay, number four, 654 00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:29,550 impaired the intent of the ordinance on the comprehensive plan of the city. Well, 655 00:57:30,450 --> 00:57:31,490 This application, 656 00:57:33,980 --> 00:57:39,620 the approval of this application, would compare the intent of your 657 00:57:39,620 --> 00:57:46,480 metaphor, we should not pass, we should not approve this, and I'm going to have no 658 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:46,940 request. 659 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,520 We have a vote, we have a roll call for you on this. 660 00:57:53,620 --> 00:58:00,400 And, excuse me, as Mr. Muscle, that just appropriated all of the conditions for the approval, 661 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:07,340 I would make a motion that we define this request based on all four of the items that 662 00:58:07,340 --> 00:58:12,740 he just read under eight of five point four states one. 663 00:58:16,190 --> 00:58:19,930 We have the motion, Dr. Strudely, a second by Mr. Hager. 664 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,160 We'll call tomorrow, 665 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:36,120 and we'll make the vote on is to deny anything. 666 00:58:37,420 --> 00:58:37,880 Okay. 667 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:38,140 Tell me. 668 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:41,220 Thank you. 669 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:42,240 Thank you. 670 00:58:42,540 --> 00:58:42,740 Comment. 671 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:43,520 Time. 672 00:58:44,180 --> 00:58:44,580 Comment. 673 00:58:47,620 --> 00:58:47,820 Comment. 674 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:49,340 Comment. 675 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:55,800 Comment. 676 00:58:57,580 --> 00:58:58,420 Comment. 677 00:58:58,420 --> 00:59:00,140 five, five, and one. 678 00:59:06,590 --> 00:59:07,410 Thank you. 679 00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:44,080 Thank you, Mr. Russell. 680 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:45,920 Thank you. 681 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,600 We need to go to item 4D. 682 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:53,180 We request Z2606 by April Land. 683 00:59:53,340 --> 00:59:54,980 First, you can be a casualer. 684 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,180 FAFA, L.C. 685 00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:56,960 You can consider it. 686 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,060 You're saying it's perfect. 687 00:59:58,380 --> 00:59:59,980 Perception 3.420. 688 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,220 0 to establish, operate, arrest, Northland, 15s for property, only know this trial, where I miss thanks, quick. 689 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,000 It's a little bit of a map chair. 690 01:00:10,980 --> 01:00:14,160 I'll have to refuse myself a little more time. This is our plan. Hope we'll do it. 691 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,000 Was this with her? 692 01:00:15,580 --> 01:00:16,840 I'm sure you stay all right. 693 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:18,040 Okay. 694 01:00:18,780 --> 01:00:20,560 Ms. Dan, if you come up here and tell us a question. 695 01:00:21,700 --> 01:00:23,680 Now, I'll talk to several of this staff at Clearwater. 696 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,600 Good evening board members. 697 01:00:28,140 --> 01:00:30,540 Thank you for the opportunity at once, Dennis. 698 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:40,080 Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today about bringing a cat cafe to our community here in front of spurred. 699 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,980 My daughter and I are going to be business partners. 700 01:00:43,980 --> 01:00:49,600 She and I've been traveling around the country and we noticed this trend of cat cafe, so I didn't even know it existed. 701 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:55,060 until we've sent Augustine Florida, which is another huge tourist area, and also we went to 702 01:00:55,060 --> 01:01:00,520 Dalbywood and Pigeon Forest, and they have one in Knoxville. And well, I'm going to 703 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:05,700 go and explain to you, um, this is not just a business idea, it's a community center solution, 704 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:13,700 that supports animal welfare, mental health, tourism, and local economic growth. First, animal welfare 705 01:01:13,700 --> 01:01:14,480 adoption. 706 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:19,940 We have pathways to partner with shelters and rescue organizations that showcase 707 01:01:19,940 --> 01:01:23,860 adoptable cats in a relaxed, full-legged environment. 708 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:29,000 Research shows that environments for cats can interact positively with people, can improve their 709 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:34,620 behavior and health and chances of adoption, and that would be fewer animals and our shelters 710 01:01:34,620 --> 01:01:40,380 that we have currently do strange and our local resources and work on its finding living 711 01:01:40,380 --> 01:01:40,940 homes. 712 01:01:41,620 --> 01:01:47,640 Second, mental health and quality of life, interacting with animals has been showed to 713 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:52,500 reduce stress and lower blood pressure and improve overall motion will be. 714 01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:58,040 In fact, a say said 74% of petal nurse reported improve mental health just from 715 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:04,380 in interaction and even short visits with cats like those in a cafe setting can provide 716 01:02:04,380 --> 01:02:09,620 con comfort and connection, especially for people who may not be able to own pets themselves. 717 01:02:09,620 --> 01:02:11,000 They're spouse-and-a-be allergic. 718 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:12,980 They may live in an apartment complex. 719 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,220 It doesn't allow pets. 720 01:02:14,620 --> 01:02:18,020 They're various, you know, hinders us to this. 721 01:02:18,540 --> 01:02:20,980 Third, economic, and tourism benefits. 722 01:02:21,660 --> 01:02:23,420 Birders Birders Birders are already as destination 723 01:02:23,420 --> 01:02:25,360 for unique experiences. 724 01:02:26,060 --> 01:02:28,240 Why are these shops and local culture? 725 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,560 A cat cafe adds something different and memorable. 726 01:02:33,020 --> 01:02:34,320 A family friendly attraction, 727 01:02:34,500 --> 01:02:36,680 which I can see we do need more of personally 728 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:42,280 as a mother of single mom and two children, and I feel like we would encourage visitors to stay 729 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:49,220 longer, spend more locally, and return again. These types of niche, niche businesses are 730 01:02:49,220 --> 01:02:55,260 proven to increase their track balance, support, you know, local surrounding spots. And then fourth 731 01:02:55,260 --> 01:03:01,180 community engagement and education, I can't think of because of gathering space for events like 732 01:03:01,180 --> 01:03:03,940 and children's birth, they will have it, I will have it in the space right, 733 01:03:04,020 --> 01:03:08,500 children's birth base, parties, or any of that really, of the sorts. 734 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,400 I've also talked to Chris Nashman here, a local artist, who wants to teach painting 735 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:14,480 with kitty's classes. 736 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,420 I've talked to a yoga instructor, who wants to do yoga, yoga, you know, obviously humans 737 01:03:19,420 --> 01:03:24,180 do it in the yoga, but in the room with the cats, so I can't yoga. 738 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:31,100 And just so you know, this room is subrated behind glass, like a cute glass room, 739 01:03:31,100 --> 01:03:37,880 area. So it's not in the area where the copy is served and in any food that say as a vendor 740 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,800 in town with sale to me, just reset to the public. 741 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,460 We finally, I want to address health and safety, which I kind of just jump the gun. 742 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,900 Pack-type-based operators that are strict guidelines with food preparation areas, complete 743 01:03:49,900 --> 01:03:56,320 these separate group animal areas, routine sanitation, and controls guest-tap capacity. 744 01:03:57,260 --> 01:04:02,840 Additionally, research shows that when cat cafes are properly designed with quiet spaces and enrichment, 745 01:04:03,580 --> 01:04:06,520 they can support both animal welfare and human interaction. 746 01:04:07,460 --> 01:04:11,900 In closing, the cat cafe is not just about coffee and cats. 747 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,160 It's about creating a space that improves lives. 748 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:16,800 It's a towards adoption. 749 01:04:17,460 --> 01:04:19,540 It strengthens our local economy. 750 01:04:20,260 --> 01:04:25,680 It enhances tourism and provides safe, positive environment for our communities to connect. 751 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:30,560 a lot, hopefully I have many people from our local community who are kind of like, I don't 752 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:35,300 this one, we should of course track, although it's great to fight more for them, of course, 753 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:41,880 but I want something from the local and the things to do, something different. Anyway, I believe 754 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:46,400 this is exactly the kind of thought-pollinnovative business that reflects the spirit of the threat of 755 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,600 Thank you for your time and consideration, 756 01:04:48,820 --> 01:04:51,560 I appreciate to serve you on this board if you. 757 01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,600 Thank you. 758 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,640 All right, we'll take all that number two by the addition by step. 759 01:04:57,540 --> 01:05:00,180 Yes, we received a conditional use permit application 760 01:05:01,180 --> 01:05:03,640 to establish and operate a rest, 761 01:05:03,740 --> 01:05:05,980 what would be considered a restaurant limited. 762 01:05:06,820 --> 01:05:09,020 Use within an existing one story, 763 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,280 1600 square foot structure previously utilized 764 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:14,980 as an office building. 765 01:05:15,740 --> 01:05:18,900 And it's address at 1219 East Vane Street. 766 01:05:19,340 --> 01:05:28,740 This, they're proposed to use would include a coffee shop with an accessory cat lounge that we'd be separated with an enclosed glass area and accessible by the patrons. 767 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:39,160 The site area is 12,196 quft feet. It's known C1 neighborhood commercial. They have 20 768 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:48,440 parking spaces available and this use of limited restaurant in a C1 district requires a 769 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:55,100 conditional use permit. The planning and zoning commission and city council have criteria 770 01:05:55,100 --> 01:06:03,280 that must be evaluated for conditional use permit applications, and it is listed within your, within your packet. 771 01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:19,480 In reviewing and evaluating the criteria for the conditional use permit, there are 13 items that must be considered when reviewing the application of these 13 items, staff finds that the applicant has meant or responded to all the requirements. 772 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:27,480 The requested use and establishment of a limited use is in keeping with the existing uses in the surrounding neighborhood areas. 773 01:06:28,860 --> 01:06:39,680 In addition, the 1600 square foot facility has approximately the 12 parking spaces that would accommodate approximately 80 patrons for our table. 774 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:46,500 So 0.83 of off-street parking, therefore staff is recommending approval based upon confirmation 775 01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:48,360 of parking and occupancy. 776 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:50,560 Thank you. 777 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:51,640 All right. 778 01:06:51,780 --> 01:06:53,440 I'm going to open the public hearing. 779 01:06:53,740 --> 01:06:56,840 Could there anyone who would like to comment on this application? 780 01:07:01,700 --> 01:07:04,480 I think we're going to be playing my button down here tonight. 781 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:06,700 A public hearing. 782 01:07:06,740 --> 01:07:10,080 I will close the public hearing. 783 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:16,840 or take action on the kitchen's funny comments, questions from the mission? 784 01:07:17,740 --> 01:07:19,820 I'll set a couple of questions for you. 785 01:07:20,620 --> 01:07:22,340 Yes, the cats. 786 01:07:23,460 --> 01:07:27,180 So help our delays stay bigger, over nine years later, 787 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:28,260 back in the day of the show. 788 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:29,980 And actually, by... 789 01:07:32,900 --> 01:07:40,040 I talked to the SPCA, CDU, actually now I should down that resign or I'm not sure, but I got another 790 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:45,800 thing up on that local government free animal rescue. But basically, the original thought, and I first 791 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:51,180 talked to CDU before she left, is they would provide all of the vet care and also when the 792 01:07:51,180 --> 01:07:53,900 to me that aren't even spain and neutered, 793 01:07:54,380 --> 01:07:56,580 that've been de-warnered, that've had their shards, 794 01:07:57,580 --> 01:07:59,440 that've been, you know, that it's lead treatment, 795 01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:01,880 all that, and they've already been there, 796 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,480 quite a small gym day, so that made sure a lot of the disease 797 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,620 that they, you know, they're clean, healthy cats, 798 01:08:08,980 --> 01:08:10,100 and they're already for adoption. 799 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,800 They would stay there, always pack that face, you know, 800 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,460 it's a big area, and not in cages. 801 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,480 They're like in a little pulmonary, but it's, you know, 802 01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:23,420 their own area, and that people could come in and interact with the cats in a more 803 01:08:23,420 --> 01:08:25,220 vulnerable life environment. 804 01:08:26,500 --> 01:08:30,860 So I kind of answered question now, but I was just, I've never seen one before, I'm 805 01:08:30,860 --> 01:08:31,140 afraid. 806 01:08:31,660 --> 01:08:36,360 So, you know, the cancer there, and they say they're overnight, somebody, I, I, I'm just kind 807 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,920 of like that too, but I can't forward it, but I can't forward it, even facility, are there 808 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,140 any other regulations from that perspective? 809 01:08:42,540 --> 01:08:43,580 Well, we've not to be concerned. 810 01:08:43,660 --> 01:08:47,460 I think the KACA case I talked to didn't, I mean, I talked to the one in Florida, and 811 01:08:47,460 --> 01:08:52,140 in Tennessee, and they said, but the one at Florida that had seven hundred 812 01:08:52,140 --> 01:08:55,980 Catholic doctrines in just five years of being open, and then not so to 813 01:08:55,980 --> 01:08:58,900 see ones that they had a thousand adoptions. I think she's been over this 814 01:08:58,900 --> 01:09:00,240 nineteen between eighteen. 815 01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:06,980 So, I mean, it's a really good community partnership, well, 816 01:09:07,260 --> 01:09:16,800 so. So, I call them the the cats are there, I'm going to say 817 01:09:18,740 --> 01:09:22,780 So they are living there. 818 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,360 They have unparalleled efforts to try to run. 819 01:09:27,340 --> 01:09:31,920 So we've got labor boxes, we've got beds. 820 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,580 So the staff is going to clean labor boxes. 821 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:46,580 One of the concerns that I have is to make sure that all the city health 822 01:09:46,580 --> 01:09:52,580 health regulations, as far as, you know, 823 01:09:55,220 --> 01:10:01,920 counterpoint or is there going to be a separation of between the food for food preparation, 824 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:09,700 the food serving, and that I've got no problem with it as long as there is a 825 01:10:10,940 --> 01:10:16,180 as the health department says, this is fine, there's no, it's in the best interest 826 01:10:16,180 --> 01:10:17,920 who they'll save you while they're up to. 827 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:24,240 Yes, I talked to Kelly Bowfords, and she said I've showed her my plans and for instance, 828 01:10:24,460 --> 01:10:26,840 we had two separate, for instance, mud sinks. 829 01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:31,760 So the mop that we use in the cat lounge every morning when we clean up before the 830 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,320 the open for the day, we vacuum up mop and be the cat, sleeping, going to wash and 831 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:35,940 all that. 832 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:41,360 That is a separate mop, a separate sink, separate everything in that area. 833 01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,120 And then for the cat bay, there's already another mud sink that exists on this 834 01:10:45,700 --> 01:10:48,640 that is used for the kitchen, if that makes sense. 835 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,760 But the cat says, no way they get into the kitchen. 836 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,080 I mean, I guess unless obviously if you open a door in this case, 837 01:10:55,220 --> 01:10:57,180 it goes like, I mean, I mean, 838 01:10:57,180 --> 01:10:59,040 but if you take them up and take them up. 839 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:03,040 Right, so that's my issue here, or the concern I have is, 840 01:11:03,220 --> 01:11:06,460 you're having, you're having patrons from the cat 841 01:11:06,460 --> 01:11:10,300 that are going into the cat room, right? 842 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:10,960 Yes. 843 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:12,940 And you're playing with the cats. 844 01:11:12,940 --> 01:11:15,600 I mean, why have a cat with a cat boy with a boy? 845 01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:16,180 Right. 846 01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:17,020 They're hard. 847 01:11:17,340 --> 01:11:18,160 And their sanitizer. 848 01:11:18,340 --> 01:11:20,720 All these pack, I could say the sanitizer at the door. 849 01:11:20,820 --> 01:11:23,020 And we also have a sink, a hand-warning sink, 850 01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:24,240 in the cat room. 851 01:11:24,660 --> 01:11:24,800 That's it. 852 01:11:24,820 --> 01:11:27,080 Patrists and wash their hands before they need to go out. 853 01:11:27,340 --> 01:11:28,200 We're going to come back. 854 01:11:28,620 --> 01:11:29,020 We're going to be happy. 855 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:33,680 Yeah, the question? 856 01:11:34,660 --> 01:11:36,360 I have a couple times a couple. 857 01:11:38,260 --> 01:11:43,740 Do you have a current park, local park, non-profit? 858 01:11:44,220 --> 01:11:46,760 Well, no, but I did talk the whole country animal rescue. 859 01:11:47,220 --> 01:11:52,820 I talked to Stevie and then I deep over back, and then they might have it on my phone. 860 01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:58,640 Another employee emailed me saying Stevie had, I guess, a quid or left, so now there's 861 01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,460 someone else that told me to come in and, you know what I'm about to do? 862 01:12:01,500 --> 01:12:02,400 You'll come to Amberview. 863 01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:03,320 They're how he's six. 864 01:12:03,740 --> 01:12:07,660 Now, basically the SBCA, I think they changed their name in the whole country, and the rest 865 01:12:07,660 --> 01:12:08,140 of the athletes. 866 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:14,500 But the question is, are these cats individually created at night? 867 01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:15,360 No, they're not. 868 01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:18,260 Or are they segregated in the room? 869 01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,660 Well, there's no way for them to get out there. 870 01:12:22,060 --> 01:12:27,080 But no, I'm talking to them that sounds like we're going to have a cat fight in there. 871 01:12:28,180 --> 01:12:33,320 Well, the next thing that we'll together, and you don't expect to have trouble. 872 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:38,880 Well, the hacker base, I think, to say they have not an outbreak and you, with the 873 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,980 SPCA or whoever these hackers have worked with, they picked the cast of the most 874 01:12:42,980 --> 01:12:44,240 sociable and easy-going. 875 01:12:44,380 --> 01:12:48,880 I mean, if you had a aggressive cat, they, or if you don't know, you get one, they kind 876 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,620 of pick it up and they take it back to SPCA. 877 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:56,680 That's what I've been took, but I have not heard of any, like, cats dying due to the violence 878 01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:03,300 or, I mean, I basically fall in there and they're not in greats, but we're talking 10, they 879 01:13:03,300 --> 01:13:05,860 maybe 12 cats, that we're not talking like 40. 880 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,560 No, thank you. 881 01:13:07,740 --> 01:13:09,120 That was another question I had. 882 01:13:09,300 --> 01:13:11,140 How many do you expect to have an facility? 883 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,980 I will give you the fact that you said in your comments 884 01:13:16,980 --> 01:13:19,300 that this is something unique. 885 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,700 I'm assured that I don't think anybody in the community's 886 01:13:22,700 --> 01:13:26,240 ever conceived of having a cap facility 887 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,720 for a walk-in. 888 01:13:27,900 --> 01:13:29,060 I want to know if you're doing this. 889 01:13:30,140 --> 01:13:31,700 I had an idea until last year. 890 01:13:31,700 --> 01:13:35,440 So are you expecting a lot of flip traffic? 891 01:13:35,480 --> 01:13:36,340 Where's all the things? 892 01:13:36,340 --> 01:13:38,060 Not a lot of flip traffic, no sir. 893 01:13:38,260 --> 01:13:40,680 Because there's no sidewalks in that area, not really. 894 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,800 I mean, water burgers, two doors down from there. 895 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:45,400 All right. 896 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,820 And I'm not sure if you're going to be able to. 897 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,020 But how do you propose to run a birthday party at that room? 898 01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:55,640 Well, not in the cap room. 899 01:13:55,660 --> 01:13:57,680 There's a separate on the side hat building 900 01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,480 where it looks like maybe it was a garage at one point 901 01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:05,140 very in. That's a poll empty space. I was going to have a party and then 902 01:14:05,140 --> 01:14:08,840 airy, but they don't bring the cats in. They, you know, they get a birthday cake 903 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,260 there and whatever their games, but then they would go in with the cat lounge to go 904 01:14:12,260 --> 01:14:15,860 they go back and forth. Right. Yes. But the cat wanted that airy 905 01:14:15,860 --> 01:14:21,180 except. So, so that our local health person that you've talked to Kelly 906 01:14:21,180 --> 01:14:25,780 Officer of her department, this basically told you that that is permissible that 907 01:14:25,780 --> 01:14:29,240 have something like a birthday party where if your kids go back and forth. 908 01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,460 So they're going to have the wash up between rooms. 909 01:14:32,460 --> 01:14:36,000 Do have sanitizer and a sink in that room plus a public bathroom. 910 01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,480 There's many, and Kelly told me exactly what I needed. 911 01:14:39,660 --> 01:14:40,220 Two different months. 912 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:40,740 Okay. 913 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:42,660 Three departments taking the kitchen. 914 01:14:42,980 --> 01:14:44,720 I have a separate hand washing scene. 915 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:45,320 The kitchen. 916 01:14:45,820 --> 01:14:46,420 That's a separate room. 917 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:47,040 Three departments. 918 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,400 I visit her three times now. 919 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:51,140 Okay. 920 01:14:51,380 --> 01:14:52,380 Let me see. 921 01:14:52,660 --> 01:14:54,660 There was something in your house back here. 922 01:14:55,820 --> 01:14:56,320 Okay. 923 01:14:56,440 --> 01:14:57,140 Thank you very much. 924 01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:58,600 I have a question for Susanna. 925 01:14:58,600 --> 01:14:59,540 Thank you. 926 01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:16,100 You said what we're going to incorporate that the applicant has met. Something to the effect that they have met the requirements or they have addressed them. What does that mean? 927 01:15:17,220 --> 01:15:24,300 That they've provided information showing that, for instance, with us, the things that we 928 01:15:24,300 --> 01:15:30,040 check for in the site plan, like parking, landscaping, you know, said. 929 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,760 So that they have a dress, they have met that requirement. 930 01:15:33,900 --> 01:15:34,200 Correct. 931 01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:35,120 Okay. 932 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,100 Thank you. 933 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,040 Any other questions or comments? 934 01:15:42,060 --> 01:15:42,700 I already mentioned. 935 01:15:47,460 --> 01:15:48,240 I can make a motion. 936 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,940 the truth, and there should be experiment for the board of the global nine piece of 937 01:15:51,940 --> 01:15:52,220 mainstream. 938 01:15:54,220 --> 01:16:00,880 I have most of my time to say that by summer, any of the sessions, I'll take a ride. 939 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:02,180 I'll take a ride. 940 01:16:02,180 --> 01:16:03,360 All right. 941 01:16:03,740 --> 01:16:04,900 You can't say it so much. 942 01:16:05,420 --> 01:16:05,700 Yeah. 943 01:16:06,980 --> 01:16:07,160 Yeah. 944 01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:07,480 Thank you. 945 01:16:25,870 --> 01:16:26,910 Thank you. 946 01:16:27,850 --> 01:16:28,130 Thank you. 947 01:16:28,130 --> 01:16:28,270 Thank you. 948 01:16:28,850 --> 01:16:28,990 Thank you. 949 01:16:28,990 --> 01:16:29,610 Thank you. 950 01:16:29,610 --> 01:16:30,010 No. 951 01:16:30,010 --> 01:16:37,490 I'm going to go on to I'm going to request 826-07 by Kevin Spragt, VDI, and I'm going to 952 01:16:37,490 --> 01:16:42,610 look at the center of condition that you're probably by section 3.2 and 0.2 to a lot 953 01:16:42,610 --> 01:16:47,930 drive through a drive that facilitates for a property commonly known as 727 balance. 954 01:16:48,830 --> 01:16:49,670 Mr. Spragt is. 955 01:16:59,380 --> 01:17:02,560 Okay, Kevin Spragt is V.I. Consulting Engineers. 956 01:17:07,940 --> 01:17:17,060 So, we are requesting full of regroupable of our CUP for the drive through for our cleaners. 957 01:17:17,260 --> 01:17:20,680 Some of you were here last time, some of you weren't. 958 01:17:21,820 --> 01:17:23,000 But we have changed nothing. 959 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:28,340 And our asking for y'all is not a group of you. 960 01:17:28,340 --> 01:17:38,420 The only thing that is changed in the NIH is we have, first of all at the end, we have done 961 01:17:38,420 --> 01:17:42,780 the simple drawing, so in the architectural drawing, we've done all the drawings that you need to do. 962 01:17:43,740 --> 01:17:45,500 And I've started building the project. 963 01:17:46,580 --> 01:17:48,040 We have text up approval. 964 01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:49,080 We have simple approval. 965 01:17:49,420 --> 01:17:50,940 We have electrical department approval. 966 01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,040 We have the farm marshals approval. 967 01:17:55,040 --> 01:18:00,720 And we started to get our building permit and this came to an end. 968 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:05,040 So here I am asking for us to take the CUP. 969 01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:10,260 So we can move all of our businesses over there. 970 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,360 Can you have a very quick. 971 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:13,020 There's a answer. 972 01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:14,200 Okay. 973 01:18:15,220 --> 01:18:17,060 All right. 974 01:18:17,420 --> 01:18:18,240 So then. 975 01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:19,760 Yes. 976 01:18:19,940 --> 01:18:24,200 We received the condition we use permit application to allow a drive through. 977 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:31,500 associated with the dry cleaning laundry business at 720 South Adams located between two existing 978 01:18:31,500 --> 01:18:37,000 developments that include Guadalupe Bank and Happy State Bank. The proposed development includes 979 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:43,760 a two-story building that is approximately 31,500 square feet in consists of 16 units, 980 01:18:43,980 --> 01:18:49,420 eight on each floor. It is likely or possible that some of these units will be combined 981 01:18:49,420 --> 01:18:51,960 lowering the possible total number of units. 982 01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,680 The anticipated use uses include professional offices, 983 01:18:57,100 --> 01:18:59,180 general retail and personal services. 984 01:18:59,820 --> 01:19:02,120 The drive-through is requested for the direct cleaning 985 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,480 business, and it will be located on the north end 986 01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:06,060 of the first floor of the building. 987 01:19:07,740 --> 01:19:11,980 The application was reviewed with sports conformity, 988 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:16,060 with relevancy ordinances, including Section 7.131. 989 01:19:16,060 --> 01:19:27,440 That is the review and evaluation criteria for site plans and section 5.460, which is the review and evaluation criteria for a conditional use permit. 990 01:19:28,980 --> 01:19:34,260 The site is 63,634 square feet. 991 01:19:34,580 --> 01:19:36,180 The zone is C2 commercial. 992 01:19:37,020 --> 01:19:41,260 It has a building coverage of 24 percent 993 01:19:41,260 --> 01:19:44,600 and the zone allows for a 75 percent maximum. 994 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,980 The impervious coverage is 79 percent 995 01:19:48,580 --> 01:19:50,700 within 80 percent maximum. 996 01:19:50,780 --> 01:19:54,240 It's a two story building 28 feet. 997 01:19:54,380 --> 01:19:57,360 The zone allows for a maximum height of 38 feet. 998 01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:08,640 There are 72 parking spaces provided for general retail and professional offices, which has a requirement of one parking space for every 400 square feet. 999 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:26,400 Personal services requires one parking space for 300 square feet. There are utilities available to the property and extension of existing infrastructure will not be extended, existing infrastructure will not be extended at the developer's expense to serve the property. 1000 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:35,080 As far as attention, the Stonewater Detention Plants and Studies shall be reviewed as part 1001 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:40,920 of the civil construction plans, elevations and renderings were provided as well as a narrative 1002 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:45,120 that indicates the development's compliance with the entry corridor overlay. 1003 01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,660 Landscaping was also reviewed for compliance. 1004 01:20:52,290 --> 01:20:57,390 And as if we sent out notices to all the surrounding property owners and we only received 1005 01:20:57,390 --> 01:21:06,410 one in opposition today after the printing of the packet for review and evaluation criteria for 1006 01:21:06,410 --> 01:21:11,210 a conditional use permit. There are 13 items which must be considered and reviewed. 1007 01:21:12,010 --> 01:21:17,010 Staff has found that the applicant hasn't met or responded all the requirements including 1008 01:21:17,010 --> 01:21:25,200 adequacy and convenience of off-street parking and determination of the proposed use 1009 01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:30,240 that the proposed use will not be detrimental to public safety, or materially injurious to 1010 01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:35,420 properties in the vicinity, and the determination that the proposed use in the site development 1011 01:21:35,420 --> 01:21:41,400 will be compatible with existing uses in the vicinity. As stated by the applicant, this was 1012 01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,400 previously approved in 2023, 1013 01:21:45,700 --> 01:21:51,600 and they got approval by P&Z and Council, and staff is recommending 1014 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:57,780 that it once again be approved with the following conditions that they have an approved addressing 1015 01:21:57,780 --> 01:22:04,400 plan, approved landscape and screening plan, approved civil construction plan, and also re-approval 1016 01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:10,000 of the previous site plan as a condition of approval. And that is the same exact site plan that was 1017 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:11,540 presented in approved last time. 1018 01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:19,120 Thank you very much. I'm going to open the public here. Is there 1019 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,420 anyone here would like to make comments on this application. 1020 01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:23,440 Is. 1021 01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:29,810 I'm building this. 1022 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:31,040 Member of Health and Public Health. 1023 01:22:31,340 --> 01:22:39,280 By the building is at the corner, at the end of the bill, just on the side of the bill. 1024 01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:40,480 By the way, it's just on the side of the bill. 1025 01:22:40,480 --> 01:22:44,080 By the way, I know the text stop has been. 1026 01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:45,200 Let's give it our approval. 1027 01:22:45,700 --> 01:22:49,860 My concerns are to be traffic, these rest, 1028 01:22:50,420 --> 01:22:52,280 to the edge of that area. 1029 01:22:53,340 --> 01:22:59,080 To be ready to have ball grains and happy bank and another bank on the other side. 1030 01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:04,720 And that's a 30-busy street, particularly with the high school and just kind of wrote. 1031 01:23:05,500 --> 01:23:07,820 So that's why I can serve as a trapping phone. 1032 01:23:08,580 --> 01:23:10,540 That's all right. Thank you. 1033 01:23:12,710 --> 01:23:14,470 And you want us to highlight the comments. 1034 01:23:17,220 --> 01:23:18,800 All right, we're close to the public hearing. 1035 01:23:19,420 --> 01:23:23,340 And we will go over and take action on the good to show you some of it. 1036 01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:24,900 Do you want to have questions or comments? 1037 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:30,880 So the question, which is Anna, is Kevin here tonight 1038 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:34,280 because it's a renewal. 1039 01:23:36,740 --> 01:23:39,400 I have to change anything and still attract leaders. 1040 01:23:40,580 --> 01:23:42,700 I still don't want to thank everything to say anything. 1041 01:23:42,700 --> 01:23:45,180 I think it's just two years down the road. 1042 01:23:45,380 --> 01:23:46,720 You haven't turned on any drone. 1043 01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:47,620 Correct. 1044 01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:49,940 And I probably shouldn't get the bulldozer out there. 1045 01:23:49,940 --> 01:23:50,160 Yeah. 1046 01:23:50,660 --> 01:23:51,700 But who do that? 1047 01:23:51,700 --> 01:23:52,780 The banks would take this long. 1048 01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:54,000 Well. 1049 01:23:55,140 --> 01:23:58,040 Which one of what do you have on both sides out? 1050 01:24:01,940 --> 01:24:12,160 So, the other question I have is, does Mr. Strangham's need as Mr. Wyke on up with the traffic from 1051 01:24:13,380 --> 01:24:16,220 Walgreens, happy statement, Department of Defense. 1052 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:24,480 Is there a need for a reserve of employment for a driving story? 1053 01:24:26,260 --> 01:24:29,720 Okay, so is the answer then no? 1054 01:24:30,500 --> 01:24:32,780 And I believe that Evan will answer that. 1055 01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:33,680 That's correct. 1056 01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:34,480 He can not have a reply. 1057 01:24:35,220 --> 01:24:40,600 So in the subdivision was originally developed, all of those access points were also reviewed. 1058 01:24:40,820 --> 01:24:45,520 So there's actually a process all the way to happy state. 1059 01:24:46,220 --> 01:24:49,240 So the limited number of dry movies in that area, 1060 01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,140 I don't know if that's why I'm going to share it. 1061 01:24:52,780 --> 01:24:53,240 That was a trap. 1062 01:24:53,500 --> 01:24:54,100 It should not be. 1063 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:55,360 It is. 1064 01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:56,540 It is going to our. 1065 01:24:56,700 --> 01:24:58,480 Friends and text on is not a problem. 1066 01:25:01,460 --> 01:25:01,940 So can it. 1067 01:25:02,060 --> 01:25:02,780 What do you go to break ground. 1068 01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:04,640 May. 1069 01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:06,840 And keep the 26. 1070 01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:08,060 No, yes. 1071 01:25:09,100 --> 01:25:09,900 I have. 1072 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:11,360 So. 1073 01:25:11,740 --> 01:25:13,160 I'm just frustrated for being here. 1074 01:25:13,420 --> 01:25:13,580 It's. 1075 01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:14,300 It's going to be a lot of this. 1076 01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:15,820 I think a motion. 1077 01:25:16,020 --> 01:25:16,380 You're approved. 1078 01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:17,160 The 26. 1079 01:25:17,420 --> 01:25:17,760 So seven. 1080 01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:23,580 is returned to the address, and plan the last gay and the 1081 01:25:23,580 --> 01:25:25,980 main plan of the civil construction plan and the 1082 01:25:25,980 --> 01:25:29,360 approve the greatest site plan in this motion. 1083 01:25:29,860 --> 01:25:30,060 I'll first start. 1084 01:25:31,260 --> 01:25:33,520 And the most you might want to give a second by Tom 1085 01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:34,860 and any other discussion. 1086 01:25:36,380 --> 01:25:36,720 On paper. 1087 01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:42,620 I would like to know 1088 01:25:47,230 --> 01:25:52,350 that there are no 1089 01:25:52,350 --> 01:25:56,550 at one one in sidewalks, the section of the State of Division of Designs and Standards 1090 01:25:56,550 --> 01:26:01,750 and at the 30th of Division of Regulations in the City of British, British, and other 1091 01:26:01,750 --> 01:26:02,190 cohorts. 1092 01:26:03,310 --> 01:26:04,710 I'd like to thank you. 1093 01:26:04,710 --> 01:26:06,310 So, here to the very end of the event. 1094 01:26:06,830 --> 01:26:07,810 Thank you for your rest time. 1095 01:26:07,810 --> 01:26:08,370 Thank you for all of us. 1096 01:26:10,030 --> 01:26:10,990 Thank you. 1097 01:26:10,990 --> 01:26:12,950 Thank you. 1098 01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:13,250 Thank you. 1099 01:26:13,450 --> 01:26:14,210 Thank you. 1100 01:26:14,370 --> 01:26:14,630 Thank you. 1101 01:26:14,730 --> 01:26:15,810 Thank you for your recommendation. 1102 01:26:16,130 --> 01:26:18,590 This evening, I would like to thank you for the invitation. 1103 01:26:18,590 --> 01:26:20,670 Thank you. 1104 01:26:20,770 --> 01:26:21,250 Thank you. 1105 01:26:21,590 --> 01:26:22,270 Thank you. 1106 01:26:22,330 --> 01:26:26,950 city council where we discussed ordinances that we wanted to 1107 01:26:26,950 --> 01:26:31,810 contemplate what we used in a still new process. So this one was picked 1108 01:26:31,810 --> 01:26:38,630 out and basically worked on structuring this ordinance in 1109 01:26:38,630 --> 01:26:42,030 such a way that we respond and keep up with the development that was currently 1110 01:26:42,030 --> 01:26:46,810 ongoing while we work on trying to build a code. So I'm going to actually 1111 01:26:46,810 --> 01:26:52,310 cast this over for civil and she's going to do some of that detail, so I'm 1112 01:26:58,220 --> 01:27:03,380 I'm just going to read your section in the words and how I was changing this approach. 1113 01:27:03,780 --> 01:27:09,680 We're supposed to invent locations, sections B and C. 1114 01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:16,320 These days, it's I've actually constructed a lot of virtual leads and notes, 1115 01:27:16,820 --> 01:27:20,300 and then a lot of them along arterial and molecular roots. 1116 01:27:20,300 --> 01:27:26,480 We have a little bit of detail that slide around some of the materials should be six vote wide, but it's back over. 1117 01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,040 Or provide that buffer. 1118 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,120 And then the other section in session sheet. 1119 01:27:34,300 --> 01:27:35,340 The maintenance responsibility. 1120 01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:39,200 Because the minute I was able to clarify that the adjacent property, sorry. 1121 01:27:40,060 --> 01:27:46,360 This amendment also clarifies that the adjacent property owners are responsible for maintaining that right away. 1122 01:27:47,020 --> 01:27:57,500 We'll be maintaining the intersection of sidewalk or a BDA compliance, and then painting an instruction for you by the way or coping clients. 1123 01:27:58,740 --> 01:28:04,240 And then, of course, the city will retain the right to maintain sidewalks. Sorry, I miss that. 1124 01:28:04,740 --> 01:28:08,100 The city will retain the right to maintain sidewalks as necessary. 1125 01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:20,040 There's shared maintenance responsibility for most equitable maintenance standards, as well as well as well here's work voyage, and I've been an unobstructed walking path. 1126 01:28:20,380 --> 01:28:24,600 Again, this accomplishes the main objectives in this ordinance, or trying to succeed me. 1127 01:28:25,940 --> 01:28:27,380 So, are you having any questions? 1128 01:28:28,900 --> 01:28:29,000 Okay. 1129 01:28:30,820 --> 01:28:31,880 Any questions? 1130 01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:32,140 Any questions? 1131 01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:32,900 Okay. 1132 01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:34,880 Any questions? 1133 01:28:35,700 --> 01:28:39,580 So this is not, we're not talking anything out of the neighborhood. 1134 01:28:41,020 --> 01:28:44,500 This is just commercial areas in our curable. 1135 01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:46,060 That is correct. 1136 01:28:46,440 --> 01:28:49,340 So if you'll look at the cross sessions for collectors and art materials, 1137 01:28:49,620 --> 01:28:52,500 there are eight book-wide art ways outside of the pavement, 1138 01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,700 and then by the side of a sidewalk, 1139 01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:57,500 that doesn't have to try and bring you to it. 1140 01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:01,700 We have 50 book-wide vocals, frees, 1141 01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,500 adding a five-foot sidewalk within that. 1142 01:29:04,500 --> 01:29:12,420 creating utility companies. So it's kind of an integral step to basically put more of 1143 01:29:12,420 --> 01:29:19,260 that on us on development and more here. So we don't have sidewalks to nowhere. That's correct. 1144 01:29:22,870 --> 01:29:30,770 So the city has a program that they're budgeting to 150,000,000,000 dollars a year. 1145 01:29:31,410 --> 01:29:38,590 All right, all right, okay, all of the time, I'm in a year, this was about the third 1146 01:29:39,850 --> 01:29:40,370 week. 1147 01:29:40,870 --> 01:29:46,050 So, we budgeted money for sidewalk construction for over 10 years now, I got it. 1148 01:29:46,690 --> 01:29:51,590 And if you give us a current goal, even today, with concrete prices on Berlin, your 1149 01:29:51,590 --> 01:29:52,090 foot. 1150 01:29:55,070 --> 01:29:57,650 Last time seeing this, I'm turning with a $15. 1151 01:29:57,650 --> 01:29:59,970 I learned that the house was losing your foot. 1152 01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:12,160 1, 15 per foot, 1, 15 per foot, okay, all right. So this is considered that we will be voting on your right. 1153 01:30:14,970 --> 01:30:20,650 Yes, this is for your recognition for a city council to consider in the same direction. 1154 01:30:22,050 --> 01:30:26,110 Shouldn't we not address the residential development at the same time? 1155 01:30:27,290 --> 01:30:36,350 So, that would be basically looking through all of our way from our section as well, all of the utility companies and additions of that. 1156 01:30:36,930 --> 01:30:47,590 So, this was basically taking steps to make progress while not opening that camera points, yes, yet. That will be open during that you can see the video discussion. 1157 01:30:50,570 --> 01:30:57,730 We keep bringing up, but this is more because to be thinking about all the 15 public areas 1158 01:30:57,730 --> 01:31:01,910 we had about parks and to keep you taking off, one of the things that I wanted to talk 1159 01:31:01,910 --> 01:31:04,930 about in the trade on the side, one of the things that I was seeing today, when I was pregnant, 1160 01:31:06,310 --> 01:31:12,240 and I thought I was a food, we would make a progress, we would bond with it. 1161 01:31:16,260 --> 01:31:19,580 I think we would make progress, as all the new adults, we would be in the data. 1162 01:31:21,180 --> 01:31:23,580 It's probably up on the end. 1163 01:31:26,380 --> 01:31:27,580 I'm a museum called. 1164 01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:30,900 One more suffocation. 1165 01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:32,980 Do you think it's going to work? 1166 01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:33,720 It's going to be a spirit. 1167 01:31:34,480 --> 01:31:34,980 You've got to work. 1168 01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:36,680 This is a course while I'm all terrible. 1169 01:31:37,060 --> 01:31:38,580 I haven't been in that infront of you. 1170 01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:41,940 You can say I have to really take that forward. 1171 01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:43,280 Sit next to you. 1172 01:31:43,420 --> 01:31:43,860 I'm a professor. 1173 01:31:48,660 --> 01:31:51,500 It's probably just an error on our residential sidewalks or something 1174 01:31:51,500 --> 01:31:58,700 that we should definitely address or should be addressed and be notified about this. 1175 01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:06,160 So if you have sidewalks, where do you think would you tell them to be sent? 1176 01:32:07,220 --> 01:32:11,880 Because don't be most free-hand by utilities, you can put me to the front of the house and 1177 01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,460 or behind the property line, or on the street. 1178 01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:16,560 Yes, there are some of them. 1179 01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:23,020 I'm just going to say that there's five people and he has our water and he's about to 1180 01:32:23,020 --> 01:32:30,120 And the next 10 to the five feet beyond that is about a lot of drawing utilities, electric gas and occasions. 1181 01:32:31,260 --> 01:32:34,040 And then there's another question about when to construct another event. 1182 01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,500 We're at a sub-efficient with the home construction. 1183 01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:43,380 And then you see I assume it would be when the developer develops property correctly. 1184 01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:46,760 Because there's a pathway to the home construction building by the country. 1185 01:32:47,180 --> 01:32:52,460 So there are many details in consideration. 1186 01:32:52,460 --> 01:32:58,400 conversations that we want to add up with staff and community and things that I want to 1187 01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:03,840 present in. Right now, this is basically focused upon the areas where we can easily be 1188 01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:09,660 applied and can also have all the commercial development, what's given place, and it does 1189 01:33:09,660 --> 01:33:13,680 need some of the government for the digital and the comprehensive package, the live, those pedestrian 1190 01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:19,840 pathways across the city. And then we've learned with some additions, I've gone about to bring 1191 01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:21,280 But that's really, really interesting. 1192 01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:24,880 We, the loop, they're all subdivision aside. 1193 01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:25,600 Not single. 1194 01:33:26,460 --> 01:33:29,920 So if we can continue to utilize those opportunities to give those energy, 1195 01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:31,140 the subdivision themselves. 1196 01:33:31,980 --> 01:33:32,840 Okay, thank you. 1197 01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:35,400 All right, anybody had questions on the floor? 1198 01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,020 What was before us, right now? 1199 01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:40,140 I'd like to make a motion. 1200 01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:42,940 We approved an in-excession, 1201 01:33:43,020 --> 01:33:44,840 6.11 sidewalks. 1202 01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:47,200 Standards. 1203 01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:48,760 Second. 1204 01:33:55,580 --> 01:33:58,320 All right, we have a lot to do in the second minute. 1205 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,100 Let's take a look at the discussion. 1206 01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:04,760 All right, all of those. 1207 01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:08,160 Thank you. 1208 01:34:09,860 --> 01:34:11,480 All right, let's go to action. 1209 01:34:11,480 --> 01:34:19,000 I don't buy a V request as T20602, I may send a grant link to a grant code. 1210 01:34:19,380 --> 01:34:23,320 Instruction, LLC, you consider the site plan reviewed for an addition to an existing 1211 01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:26,740 event center located in one of the 11 form of March 29th. 1212 01:34:27,220 --> 01:34:31,660 Read, read, and describe this lot to a R-H-3, Gretchen, and Gretchen, and Gretchen, and 1213 01:34:32,980 --> 01:34:34,280 It's a grant review here. 1214 01:34:34,980 --> 01:34:35,520 It's great. 1215 01:34:37,180 --> 01:34:37,860 Thank you. 1216 01:34:37,940 --> 01:34:38,020 Thank you. 1217 01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:43,300 I'm not nice at Ramlin, I'm dead, I'm like so, I'm a centerline, we're a engineering consultant. 1218 01:34:44,180 --> 01:34:46,860 Recently, we've got our office too, but I'd like to give up on Barney. 1219 01:34:47,500 --> 01:34:50,360 Basically, it couldn't be here to last, so I'm here to pass the engineering representative. 1220 01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:54,140 We have existing debates in our located there at 1111. 1221 01:34:54,140 --> 01:34:55,440 At the end of that, it's read. 1222 01:34:56,820 --> 01:35:00,580 The homework is converting that into a retail center. 1223 01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,680 It is the same owner as the Hilded Restaurant. 1224 01:35:03,460 --> 01:35:06,300 We've prepared a side plan for six to the comments last week. 1225 01:35:06,300 --> 01:35:10,360 And we have approximately 700 square foot addition to the 1226 01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,300 east side of building that sits within those setbacks. 1227 01:35:14,260 --> 01:35:15,580 They can be seeing on the design. 1228 01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,280 We don't have this in the context. 1229 01:35:21,940 --> 01:35:28,960 You know, we just noticed that the staff report was missing. 1230 01:35:29,820 --> 01:35:30,340 I will. 1231 01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,140 Mine is on page 123. 1232 01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:35,720 Although it is not under this subject. 1233 01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:48,040 Okay, 1234 01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:53,100 all right, that's permission here and we'll get all of this right. 1235 01:35:53,900 --> 01:35:55,180 All right, thank you very much. 1236 01:35:55,340 --> 01:35:57,620 Do then you want to go over the staff to help me. 1237 01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,140 Yes, any show that I'll just agree with you. 1238 01:36:01,540 --> 01:36:02,820 I'll just agree with you. 1239 01:36:02,820 --> 01:36:04,220 I love this too. 1240 01:36:04,480 --> 01:36:07,220 Okay, so that's the big thing. 1241 01:36:07,220 --> 01:36:12,260 We received an application for review of a site plan for an addition to an existing 1242 01:36:12,260 --> 01:36:14,500 event center, which is LAPO SAVA. 1243 01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:20,340 The existing event center is approximately 5,177 square feet. 1244 01:36:20,660 --> 01:36:26,480 And the proposed addition is an additional 731 square feet on the east side of the building. 1245 01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:33,220 The property was replied in 2001 and it included this 1.09 acre lot. 1246 01:36:33,220 --> 01:36:40,080 surrounding uses include Hill Disrest Strong, which is the same owner as this property 1247 01:36:40,660 --> 01:36:46,280 to the West, a convenience store to the east and Oakwood RV park to the north. 1248 01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:55,400 The application was reviewed for its conformity with relevant city ordinances including section 7.131 1249 01:36:55,400 --> 01:37:02,040 review and evaluation criteria for the site plan. The site is 1.09 acres. It's 1250 01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:11,660 to media manufacturing. The building coverage that is being proposed is 12.4% which is approximately 1251 01:37:11,660 --> 01:37:21,040 5,900 in eight square feet and pervious coverage of 15.58% which accounts to about 7,097 square feet. 1252 01:37:24,060 --> 01:37:29,980 They allow that district to last for a 38 foot maximum but they're they're not 1253 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:39,200 Proposing that height. Access and circulation, the site has access off of FM-2093, and they're parking 1254 01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:47,080 when they responded to us after the packet was printed and they've advised us that they're 1255 01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:54,660 proposing retail uses. Therefore, retail asks for one space for every 400 square feet. They do 1256 01:37:54,660 --> 01:38:02,560 enough area for parking on on site for that if it had been the event center it would be 1257 01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:07,700 one space for everyone hundreds for feet or one space for every four seats as required by 1258 01:38:07,700 --> 01:38:09,220 sections 7.860. 1259 01:38:09,860 --> 01:38:17,280 Can you stop and say that again please, we're telling you that they changed the concept of the use of the building is 1260 01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:25,780 that you just had advised. So their proposal is to add retail to as what as we were told in our response. 1261 01:38:26,020 --> 01:38:31,900 Yes, the first thing they were going to have a no-invent center. Is it an existing event? 1262 01:38:31,980 --> 01:38:36,980 An existing event center. That's existing. You should see the three archways. 1263 01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:44,720 Yeah, those will be stored front glass with entrances. And so the proposal for the new use of the building. 1264 01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:50,400 It hasn't been operational yesterday, Vincent or sometime, but the idea is that it will be three retail 1265 01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:50,980 suites. 1266 01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:56,320 And the current owner is going to develop and use one of those suites, and please see other 1267 01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:56,580 things. 1268 01:38:56,700 --> 01:38:57,140 I understand. 1269 01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:58,100 Thank you. 1270 01:38:58,140 --> 01:38:59,740 Yes, sir. 1271 01:38:59,900 --> 01:39:04,960 So we were advised of that during the responses that originally we thought it was going 1272 01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:09,440 to be an addition to the existing events center, but it's being converted to retail uses. 1273 01:39:09,540 --> 01:39:10,080 Thank you. 1274 01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:15,660 and therefore the parking requirement is one space for every 400 square feet. And within the site, 1275 01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,840 there is enough to accommodate the required parking spaces for that amount of square footage. 1276 01:39:24,650 --> 01:39:31,810 Since they have addressed the majority of the development services comments, 1277 01:39:32,510 --> 01:39:38,570 however, the engineering comments are still pending. Therefore, staff would recommend that there be a 1278 01:39:38,570 --> 01:39:46,930 additional approval with those conditions that have not been meant to be complied with, and they include providing text data approval for the driveway. 1279 01:39:47,890 --> 01:39:57,850 And I believe there was still engineering in pervious cover and drainage requirements that had not been addressed adequately. 1280 01:39:59,230 --> 01:40:06,930 And now, on those two items, we have submitted this to textop for their concurrence on that existing driveway that is there for their approval. 1281 01:40:07,310 --> 01:40:14,070 And that is pending, and we did submit additional information, so I think, pervious cover and verification that needs is important. 1282 01:40:14,670 --> 01:40:16,070 Has that passed forward? 1283 01:40:17,030 --> 01:40:19,620 Thank you. 1284 01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:20,600 Okay. 1285 01:40:28,810 --> 01:40:30,090 All right. 1286 01:40:30,090 --> 01:40:39,930 I think that's it. 1287 01:40:40,410 --> 01:40:40,950 I don't think that's it. 1288 01:40:41,270 --> 01:40:41,650 I'm sorry. 1289 01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:43,070 I'd imagine that. 1290 01:40:43,070 --> 01:40:48,810 Well, if we were to take a change in pants, the parking, the change in jeans, the change in 1291 01:40:48,810 --> 01:40:51,550 jeans, the parking, the performance of genuine. 1292 01:40:53,290 --> 01:40:58,250 Mr. that, that side plane is outpainted, we submitted a revised side plane and 1293 01:40:58,250 --> 01:40:59,570 based on the comments that we received. 1294 01:41:00,170 --> 01:41:06,190 It was, it was just received after the packet was printed with them delineating the parking. 1295 01:41:06,690 --> 01:41:06,990 Yes. 1296 01:41:07,150 --> 01:41:11,210 But it did meet the minimum one space for every 400 square feet of. 1297 01:41:11,770 --> 01:41:12,010 Okay. 1298 01:41:14,250 --> 01:41:24,290 And what about our trash is where we need us in order to address that the dumpster would be the shared dumpster with Hilda since it's it's the same worship. 1299 01:41:24,930 --> 01:41:30,050 So in fact, you're asked to approve something we can't see. 1300 01:41:30,230 --> 01:41:31,290 That Greg. 1301 01:41:32,230 --> 01:41:35,570 We we were trying to pull it up, but 1302 01:41:38,510 --> 01:41:41,790 since it was after the packet was printed that it was received. 1303 01:41:56,330 --> 01:42:00,230 We can't we can't prove something we cannot say 1304 01:42:02,250 --> 01:42:04,930 on this out of your control, do we 1305 01:42:04,930 --> 01:42:05,330 What? 1306 01:42:05,970 --> 01:42:08,330 When you tables, don't you text me? 1307 01:42:09,590 --> 01:42:10,150 I didn't. 1308 01:42:10,230 --> 01:42:11,650 I didn't say we'd not turn it down. 1309 01:42:11,890 --> 01:42:13,730 I just didn't even take no action or something. 1310 01:42:14,070 --> 01:42:16,530 I said the table until the next meeting. 1311 01:42:16,630 --> 01:42:16,930 Yes. 1312 01:42:17,130 --> 01:42:18,130 I'm going to put it on the agenda. 1313 01:42:18,830 --> 01:42:19,890 We have a full time. 1314 01:42:21,190 --> 01:42:21,950 I was back and came back. 1315 01:42:22,570 --> 01:42:23,970 I got it. 1316 01:42:24,170 --> 01:42:25,190 I got it. 1317 01:42:25,190 --> 01:42:26,390 You have a bite this morning. 1318 01:42:26,850 --> 01:42:26,910 No. 1319 01:42:28,190 --> 01:42:28,570 Okay. 1320 01:42:28,570 --> 01:42:29,090 I'm excited. 1321 01:42:29,570 --> 01:42:30,810 Don't take a passion of me. 1322 01:42:31,310 --> 01:42:31,530 Thank you. 1323 01:42:31,790 --> 01:42:32,830 Thank you. 1324 01:42:32,830 --> 01:42:36,950 I'm sorry if it's said we're not on this update. 1325 01:42:39,150 --> 01:42:41,110 Yeah, I guess three alternatives. 1326 01:42:41,430 --> 01:42:42,570 One is to take no action. 1327 01:42:42,830 --> 01:42:46,150 The only comes back up on the advocacy and staff are very into very 1328 01:42:46,150 --> 01:42:49,250 In fact, you can take a hold, which can use it in fact. 1329 01:42:49,430 --> 01:42:50,210 Which are nice and easy. 1330 01:42:50,450 --> 01:42:52,910 It's quite a matter of whether you can take a hold to a date serving, 1331 01:42:53,250 --> 01:42:55,650 which just could be immediately selected in the future. 1332 01:42:56,270 --> 01:42:59,150 So if we take no action, it's in public on staff. 1333 01:42:59,370 --> 01:43:01,570 You can hit everything together for us. 1334 01:43:01,570 --> 01:43:08,130 and put it on June. I see a combination of no action and tablet, so they get to the next one. 1335 01:43:09,070 --> 01:43:14,790 I do have a copy of this, I find that I can email to Ms. Muscale. She wants to say that I can borrow. 1336 01:43:15,230 --> 01:43:15,990 We can do that. 1337 01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:22,740 We need to send it right now. 1338 01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:29,160 Yes. Well, I think now, I think how many did we need to do is we need to be able to sit down and 1339 01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:36,160 number one, so look at it, look at it, part of the company meeting and develop any questions 1340 01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:41,860 that we have so that we can ask them to tell us the questions of staff and of the applicant. 1341 01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:46,280 So it's very, it's 30 days, but we'll see you all in there. 1342 01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:52,360 We need a motion to table this, maybe? 1343 01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:52,760 Yes. 1344 01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:55,860 We need a motion to some kind of attention. 1345 01:43:56,320 --> 01:44:00,120 I made that motion, I say we table it to take no action. 1346 01:44:02,350 --> 01:44:03,170 sorry as I said. 1347 01:44:03,170 --> 01:44:05,630 Like the motion by Jim is second by Jim. 1348 01:44:06,730 --> 01:44:11,510 Any other discussion on their right or I'll post. 1349 01:44:12,430 --> 01:44:14,010 All right, give us a stop here we look. 1350 01:44:14,410 --> 01:44:17,370 Thank you for that. 1351 01:44:17,570 --> 01:44:18,890 Thank you for all of us. 1352 01:44:19,110 --> 01:44:19,650 Bless. 1353 01:44:20,150 --> 01:44:21,510 I'll look at that for your minutes. 1354 01:44:21,810 --> 01:44:22,910 Anybody here to be. 1355 01:44:23,210 --> 01:44:24,570 Question between two minutes. 1356 01:44:26,030 --> 01:44:26,250 Comment. 1357 01:44:26,570 --> 01:44:26,990 Question of a group. 1358 01:44:26,990 --> 01:44:30,010 I don't know if you don't check it. 1359 01:44:30,030 --> 01:44:31,830 Motion in the second one in this session. 1360 01:44:32,690 --> 01:44:33,270 All right. 1361 01:44:34,070 --> 01:44:34,550 All right. 1362 01:44:34,550 --> 01:44:38,450 Those are actually those who live in the number of six. 1363 01:44:38,770 --> 01:44:40,670 I leave the direction of the second one. 1364 01:44:40,710 --> 01:44:42,850 Is that a fascinating thing for you? 1365 01:44:42,850 --> 01:44:43,030 I don't know. 1366 01:44:43,810 --> 01:44:48,430 We don't have any comments. 1367 01:44:49,890 --> 01:44:50,590 Anything to report? 1368 01:44:51,370 --> 01:44:53,550 Cliff will be back at the next move. 1369 01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:57,740 And we stand adjourned.