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I pledge allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America

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and to the Republic for which
it stands, one nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty
and justice for all.

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Welcome, everyone.

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First order of business is
approving the meeting agenda

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with the following Amendment.

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The removal of the item under
report of County administrator

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regarding data, practices,
compliance officials.

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Would someone like
to make that motion.

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That motion, Mr. Chair.

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Motion made by
Commissioner casa.

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Is there a second.

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I'll second.

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Second by Commissioner Severson.

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Any discussion.

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Hearing none.

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All those in favor,
signify by saying Aye.

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Aye Opposed.

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Same sign.

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The meeting agenda has passed.

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Looking for a resolution to
approve the consent agenda

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with the following approval
of minutes from the July

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21, 2026 board meeting.

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Approval of regular full time
status, employees and acceptance

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of resignations and retirements.

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Approval of drainage, ditch
repairs and approval of claims.

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Looking for a resolution.

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I'll enter that resolution.

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Entered by
Commissioner Severson.

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Is there a second.

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I'll second.

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Second by Commissioner Eckstrom.

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Any discussion.

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Hearing none.

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Will the clerk
please call the roll.

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Commissioner?

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yes.

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Yes, yes Mr. Shaw.

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Yes That is passed.

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Moving on.

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Report of board committees,
Commissioner Severson.

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Yes I had the shared
Resources Committee

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with the city of Albert
Lea, joint County

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ditch 8 with city of Waseca.

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Waseca County and rural
Minnesota Energy Board meeting.

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Thank you, Commissioner casa.

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Sir yes.

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I attended the poweron
meeting with Martin,

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Faribault and freeborn County.

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They had an attorney there.

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She was very interesting.

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I don't think a lot came out of
it other than just information,

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but it was interesting.

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And then we've had two rounds
of AFSCME negotiations.

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I think they're going well.

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Now we're just working
on the language in it.

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We've assessed the stuff from
the state was sick and safe

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or whatever it is that
we have to include.

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So far it's going OK.

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And I attended the planning
and zoning meeting last night,

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and I very much
appreciate commissioner

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Ekstrom's preparation and
study that she does for that.

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She comes very well
prepared with facts.

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Thank you.

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All right, Commissioner Schaaf.

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None at this time,
Commissioner Ekstrom.

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I also was part
of the ditch eight

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meeting with Waseca County.

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I had a River Watershed meeting
and there is some money from.

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So it goes in two
year increments.

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And freeborn lake is one
of the lakes in that area

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considered an impaired lake.

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So I would encourage
the city of freeborn

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maybe to be looking into
ways of improving that area.

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Planning commission meeting
last night, of course,

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and I'll comment on that I
guess after under item number 5,

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had a freeborn County Trail
Association meeting and a law

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library meeting that only meets
about one to two times a year.

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But we will be adding another
meeting because they're trying

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to decide if the law library,
instead of using the judge's law

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clerks that deal with the
materials in the law library,

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if that will fall under the
County attorney's office.

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So there's going to be
another meeting scheduled

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here pretty soon for that.

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And then a number of concerned
calls about the situation

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in Twin Lakes.

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And so yeah.

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So that's enough for that.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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I've sat through two rounds
of union negotiations.

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The negotiations
are just starting

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and they'll be going
through the end of the year.

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We have seven unions that we
have to work through contract

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negotiations with.

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I2 was part of the
shared Resource Committee

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with the city of Albert Lea,
and also sat on the joint ditch

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eight hearing with
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went sat through interviews for
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had a meeting with Albert
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and redevelopment.

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Also went over to
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Visited with Faribault
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County, and freeborn County
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That has a potential of
going through our County.

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Met with the administration
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and also sat through.

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We have a gentleman from
the AAMC that came down

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to talk to each one of us board
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we'll all be gathering together
on how we can work together

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as a whole board to better.

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Freeborn County, and that's
what I've been up to.

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So with that said, we'll move
on to miscellaneous business.

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And first on that agenda is
the planning commission report,

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if there's anything there.

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Sure So we had a planning
commission meeting last evening

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and we continue to work
on our energy storage,

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the energy storage ordinance.

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It's been a long road
and working on that.

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But we want to get it as
nice as possible, or as clear

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cut language as we possibly can.

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Thank you for putting the
table of contents up there.

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Ulan brothers
wanting a gravel pit.

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And so that got tabled so
we could get a little bit

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more information on
that, dealing with road

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usage and a safer route.

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The possibility
of a safer route.

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The steel application was
approved and that's about it.

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So all right.

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Thank you.

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Any other items under
miscellaneous business

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then we'll move on.

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Are there any persons
present wishing

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to address the board
concerning matters pertaining

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to this agenda, as well as any
other matters of County concern.

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If so, please step forward.

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Seeing none, we'll move on.

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Report of various departments
beginning with the report

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of Environmental Services.

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Good morning, Mr. Chair.

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Good morning, commissioners.

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The first item I have
for you this morning

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is to set a public
hearing date to extend

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our interim zoning ordinance
pertaining to data centers.

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The planning commission is
just turning the corner.

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As commissioner
Ekstrom just said,

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we're just turning the corner
on our energy storage ordinance.

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Once that's buttoned up, we'll
move right into data centers,

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extending this zoning, this
interim zoning ordinance

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gives the County an
additional year to do that.

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And I would recommend
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that hearing at the next
board meeting, the August 18.

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I would allow me to get the
notice in the paper today

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for a publication on Saturday,
and that would provide us

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the correct timeline to be able
to hold that hearing and adopt

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that language on the 18th.

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Would someone like
to enter a motion

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setting that public hearing
for the 18th of August, 2026?

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I'll make the motion.

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Motion made by
Commissioner Ekstrom.

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Is there a second.

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I'll second.

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Second made by
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Any discussion.

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Hearing none.

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All those in favor, signify
by saying, I opposed.

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Same sign.

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That motion has passed.

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That hearing date is
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right here in this room.

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Thank you.

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I appreciate that.

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The second item I have
for you this morning

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is kind of a two-fold request.

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The first request
is a motion to pick

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up the Amendment to chapter 42,
Section 4259 off of the table.

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As this item was tabled
at the last board meeting,

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someone like to make a motion
to bring that resolution back

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to the floor.

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I'll enter that
motion, Mr. Chair.

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Motion made by
Commissioner casa.

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Is there a second.

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I'll second.

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Second by Commissioner Ekstrom.

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Any discussion.

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Sure I have a question.

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Just an existing survey.

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Would they just have to get
that updated with their plans.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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We're kind of getting into
the business side of it.

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But I'm sure.

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An old survey, it has the
data at the surveyor's office

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say it's Jones and Smith
that has the old survey.

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I would imagine that would
alleviate some of their labor

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on their end to get
that survey produced.

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And then adding in
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be looking for the
structure that's proposed.

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So the motion on the
floor is to bring

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this item back to the floor.

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There's a first and a second.

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Any other discussion.

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Hearing none.

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All those in favor,
signify by saying Aye.

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Aye Opposed.

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Same sign.

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Now we'll move on to the
actual resolution itself.

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And that was an Amendment to
a current zoning ordinance.

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Is there someone that wishes to
enter that resolution Mr. Chair,

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I'll enter the resolution.

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And then if it gets
seconded, then I

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can offer some explanation.

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OK entered by
Commissioner Eckstrom.

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Is there a second, Mr. Chair.

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Yes wasn't that already entered
and seconded at the last meeting

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before it was tabled?

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I know.

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I think I requested we table it
till commissioner Eckstrom was

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back before there was a motion.

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I think that was the
only motion, wasn't it.

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I don't know.

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Seems we're getting into
the weeds a little bit here.

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We're just trying to
get this worked through.

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So is there a second.

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I'll second.

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Second by Commissioner Severson.

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Any discussion.

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Yes so I maybe should let
commissioner Eckstrom go first.

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But, Trevor.

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We already have things in place.

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Kind of.

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Correct I was told
by a gentleman

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from the Board of adjustments.

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Kind of already
have something where

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if somebody comes in and fills
out an application and you

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and the neighbor comes in,
you'll go out, you'll check,

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you'll pull the application if
they have violated something.

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Correct yeah.

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We kind of at this point in
time, we rely on a site plan.

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So the application has to
come with the site plan.

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The issue there
though, is there's not

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really good language
describing what that site

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plan is supposed to be.

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I've pulled files from back in
the day that are construction

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paper with things glued to
it, which as the language

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sits now that satisfies
that requirement.

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And if we do see an issue, we
can always leverage a survey

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on a certain project, especially
if we have complaints coming in,

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but we don't really have
the teeth to require

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that if someone puts up a
fight on requiring a survey,

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I don't know.

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I don't know how that
plays out with us

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requiring that for the permit.

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Well, because Ross has had
how many permits that 9,000,

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you said.

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Yeah, 9,000 plus.

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Yeah and this has happened
a handful of times.

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Yeah so I'm concerned
with us punishing

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the entire public
because a couple

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neighbors can't get along.

266
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The other thing that
would concern me

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is they come in, they tell
you they don't need a survey

268
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because they're 10 feet away,
and you go out with your wheel

269
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and say, nope, you're five.

270
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So you have to have a survey.

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Then the survey comes back.

272
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They've spent $2,000 on their
survey, and they were right.

273
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They shouldn't have had
to do it all of a sudden.

274
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Is that going to open us up for
somebody suing us because they

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were forced to spend $2,000.

276
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They didn't need to.

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I just I'm a little concerned
with some of these things.

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So yeah Mr. Chair,
Commissioner casa,

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it's really tough in land use
to come up with a perfect rule.

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And those are certainly
potentialities

281
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and probably some
unintended consequences

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with the survey situation.

283
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I can't really speak to
how that would play out

284
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with regards to liability
and requiring surveys

285
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and then turning out, turning
around at the end of the project

286
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and finding out they
really didn't need one.

287
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Yeah, I don't know how
to speak to the liability

288
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side of requiring a survey,
but I can tell you it's

289
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hard to strike a perfect rule.

290
00:13:28,540 --> 00:13:32,820
There's probably going to be
situations that we didn't see,

291
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as we try to use this
language and move

292
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forward if it's approved.

293
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But I mean, so are
we doubling up here.

294
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Like, do we already
have some things

295
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in place that handle
something that

296
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doesn't happen all that often.

297
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Yeah in our office,
we're unique as a County

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because we are code
delegated County.

299
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So we have checks and balances.

300
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First process is zoning with me.

301
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They turn in their site plan
and I look at the structure

302
00:14:01,750 --> 00:14:02,490
and where it's at.

303
00:14:02,490 --> 00:14:05,730
I look at the use of the
land and then if that's OK,

304
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it goes to Ross.

305
00:14:06,570 --> 00:14:09,190
And Ross is actually
the boots on the ground,

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doing building inspections.

307
00:14:11,510 --> 00:14:12,290
Excuse me.

308
00:14:12,290 --> 00:14:16,610
So if he sees something as
he's doing his plan review,

309
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usually that's where we catch,
in discrepancies in a site plan

310
00:14:20,150 --> 00:14:24,550
between us there has been, a
handful of situations where

311
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workloads a lot or someone
turned in an application

312
00:14:27,670 --> 00:14:31,670
in a goofy way, and
we might miss one.

313
00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:35,630
But I would say we do have
a process right now to catch

314
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encroachments at this
point, but the language

315
00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,120
in the ordinance allowing
for that is pretty vague.

316
00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,060
So if it really did
come to push and shove,

317
00:14:46,060 --> 00:14:50,840
I don't know how that would
play out other than just issuing

318
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an Nov and going through
the enforcement process,

319
00:14:53,380 --> 00:14:56,400
which is long and cumbersome.

320
00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,800
Any other discussion.

321
00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:00,960
Sure, Mr. Chair.

322
00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,160
So this came up after
several incidences just

323
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with me being on the
planning commission.

324
00:15:05,580 --> 00:15:07,420
Actually, even before I was
on the planning commission,

325
00:15:07,420 --> 00:15:09,640
learning about
residents that end up

326
00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,480
fighting their neighbors
over encroachment

327
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onto their property line.

328
00:15:13,620 --> 00:15:16,360
So it was just kind of
trying to thinking of a way

329
00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,280
of how can we make an ordinance
better to prevent that.

330
00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,680
I guess trying to make
government work better on behalf

331
00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,240
of the peoples is the goal.

332
00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,920
I agree, I don't want unintended
consequences, however.

333
00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,500
So in environmental services,
the building inspector,

334
00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:33,980
he is not a surveyor.

335
00:15:33,980 --> 00:15:39,490
So in one incident we have
a landowner coming back

336
00:15:39,490 --> 00:15:41,930
blaming environmental
services for an issue

337
00:15:41,930 --> 00:15:45,330
and saying that their
fault and so forth.

338
00:15:45,330 --> 00:15:48,290
This does take the
guesswork out of it.

339
00:15:48,290 --> 00:15:50,590
People that know where
their property line is.

340
00:15:50,590 --> 00:15:52,810
Definitely my understanding
after the workshop

341
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is that for the board,
some concern was

342
00:15:55,370 --> 00:15:58,730
added expense onto landowners.

343
00:15:58,730 --> 00:16:01,410
I guess the way the planning
commission had discussed

344
00:16:01,410 --> 00:16:04,290
it was if you can
afford to build a brand

345
00:16:04,290 --> 00:16:07,490
new garage or a big shed,
because again, smaller

346
00:16:07,490 --> 00:16:10,570
units are exempt from this.

347
00:16:10,570 --> 00:16:13,490
If you can afford to do
that could probably afford

348
00:16:13,490 --> 00:16:15,050
several hundred
dollars to make sure

349
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you are building where you're
supposed to be building.

350
00:16:19,810 --> 00:16:23,010
And then also, if you have
that survey giving a little bit

351
00:16:23,010 --> 00:16:26,570
more teeth than in
the event that person

352
00:16:26,570 --> 00:16:28,050
goes ahead and
builds where they're

353
00:16:28,050 --> 00:16:32,210
not supposed to build as well.

354
00:16:32,210 --> 00:16:34,910
I guess I don't see it
as punishing people.

355
00:16:34,910 --> 00:16:39,260
I see it as knowing exactly
where your property line is

356
00:16:39,260 --> 00:16:41,880
and in essence,
protecting yourself,

357
00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,260
protecting your neighbor.

358
00:16:44,260 --> 00:16:47,180
And so.

359
00:16:47,180 --> 00:16:49,020
Trying to think of
other things on here.

360
00:16:49,020 --> 00:16:51,280
Let me just look at my
notes here for a second.

361
00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:57,860
But as far as if you already
have an existing survey,

362
00:16:57,860 --> 00:17:00,100
if there's a way, we
could always send it back

363
00:17:00,100 --> 00:17:03,140
to the planning commission
to tweak some of the wording

364
00:17:03,140 --> 00:17:06,339
in the ordinance to say, if
you have an existing survey

365
00:17:06,339 --> 00:17:08,220
within the last 20
years or something

366
00:17:08,220 --> 00:17:12,060
like that maybe it just
needs to be updated

367
00:17:12,060 --> 00:17:15,180
or maybe that is still good.

368
00:17:15,180 --> 00:17:19,160
I'd have again, we'd have
to contact actual surveyors,

369
00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,980
I guess, to find out
how that would work.

370
00:17:23,980 --> 00:17:28,880
So yeah, I guess it just kind of
takes that guesswork out of it.

371
00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,780
Takes the burden off
environmental services

372
00:17:31,780 --> 00:17:34,280
and then possibly the
County attorney's office.

373
00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,140
If things start getting
really contentious

374
00:17:39,140 --> 00:17:45,320
between two property owners Mr.
Chair, any other discussion,

375
00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:45,880
Mr. Chair.

376
00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:53,340
Yes I guess I'm looking
at personal responsibility

377
00:17:53,340 --> 00:17:54,480
of people.

378
00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,920
And they should want a survey.

379
00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,280
We shouldn't have to tell them.

380
00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,420
They should get one.

381
00:17:59,420 --> 00:18:01,280
Every property I've purchased.

382
00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,580
The first phone call I make
is Jones, Holland Smith.

383
00:18:04,580 --> 00:18:11,340
So that's just something
they should do if they don't.

384
00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:14,580
And I mean, I feel like
we're babysitting them.

385
00:18:14,580 --> 00:18:20,000
I'm not sure this is necessary.

386
00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,840
I just think we have enough
in place to handle it.

387
00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,660
And I don't think it
happens that often.

388
00:18:28,660 --> 00:18:30,940
And I'm looking
at if you like you

389
00:18:30,940 --> 00:18:36,130
said, if you want to take it
back and do more language to it.

390
00:18:36,130 --> 00:18:39,130
Because if they had a
survey 10 years ago, well,

391
00:18:39,130 --> 00:18:44,750
pins can end up being removed
or dirt shift ground, whatever

392
00:18:44,750 --> 00:18:46,330
is excavating or whatever.

393
00:18:46,330 --> 00:18:49,950


394
00:18:49,950 --> 00:18:53,750
I just think it comes down
to they should have they

395
00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:55,830
should want to do it right.

396
00:18:55,830 --> 00:19:00,090
And I don't think we should
have to have another level.

397
00:19:00,090 --> 00:19:03,570
But I like if this
is protecting you.

398
00:19:03,570 --> 00:19:07,270
I don't know how your office
and you all feel about it.

399
00:19:07,270 --> 00:19:09,150
If you're neutral, if you're.

400
00:19:09,150 --> 00:19:10,790
Either way.

401
00:19:10,790 --> 00:19:11,990
Yeah Mr. chair.

402
00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:16,370
Commissioner casa, we have
concerns with the expense.

403
00:19:16,370 --> 00:19:20,230
Just because it's a
whole new procedure.

404
00:19:20,230 --> 00:19:24,370
But we're all willing to
implement this language.

405
00:19:24,370 --> 00:19:28,230
And if it's passed, we'll go
forward with what we have to.

406
00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:31,560
But I know there is
some concern with how

407
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,420
applicants will handle that.

408
00:19:34,420 --> 00:19:35,720
And I'm wondering if
it's going to make

409
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:41,840
more work for you because
now you have to then less.

410
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,700
Yeah I mean, as far
as workload goes,

411
00:19:44,700 --> 00:19:46,080
I don't think it
would change much

412
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,960
just because we're
going to require that

413
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,820
at the time of application.

414
00:19:49,820 --> 00:19:52,240
So they should be coming into
our office with that done

415
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,800
and ready to go.

416
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,400
And we most likely wouldn't
accept the application

417
00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:01,120
or start the timeline until
we have that survey in hand.

418
00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:05,440
And in Nikki's comment or
Commissioner Ekstrom's comment

419
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,400
that if they can afford
a shed, they can't

420
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,900
afford not maybe necessarily.

421
00:20:09,900 --> 00:20:15,440
The shed might be financed and
extras sometimes aren't included

422
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,360
in that financing packet.

423
00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:19,040
So good point.

424
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,240
I'm just.

425
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,840
My concerns are this doesn't
come up very often where there's

426
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,370
an issue with a property line.

427
00:20:29,370 --> 00:20:32,070
And I feel it's a civil matter.

428
00:20:32,070 --> 00:20:35,450
It should be handled
by the property owners

429
00:20:35,450 --> 00:20:39,130
and not us getting involved
in something like that.

430
00:20:39,130 --> 00:20:45,130
I do feel that it's going to put
an additional financial pressure

431
00:20:45,130 --> 00:20:48,010
on individuals in the County
when they do want to put up

432
00:20:48,010 --> 00:20:54,330
a building or add to and
up to thousands of dollars

433
00:20:54,330 --> 00:20:57,810
to get something like this done.

434
00:20:57,810 --> 00:21:00,030
I agree with what
Commissioner casa said.

435
00:21:00,030 --> 00:21:02,690
People finance this thing,
something that they want

436
00:21:02,690 --> 00:21:05,130
to add value to
their property with,

437
00:21:05,130 --> 00:21:08,450
and they might have
saved for years

438
00:21:08,450 --> 00:21:12,490
to be able to put up this
structure that they'd like.

439
00:21:12,490 --> 00:21:15,670
And what I'm hearing is
whether it be a front,

440
00:21:15,670 --> 00:21:19,790
back or side property line, the
setback is a determined footage.

441
00:21:19,790 --> 00:21:21,890
We'll use 8 foot.

442
00:21:21,890 --> 00:21:24,450
What I'm hearing is we don't
really know where that 8 foot

443
00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:27,860
setback is, but we do
know when we go out,

444
00:21:27,860 --> 00:21:30,880
we're 5 foot is from
that 8 foot setback.

445
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,780
That doesn't make any
sense to me at all.

446
00:21:32,780 --> 00:21:36,640
Yeah it's again to speak to
that previous statement I made.

447
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,100
It's really hard to
strike a perfect rule.

448
00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:42,640
I think if anything,
this is a good backdrop.

449
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,660
If we do find a discrepancy,
we have the legal description

450
00:21:46,660 --> 00:21:48,160
in the survey in hand.

451
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,560
But I understand our office.

452
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,580
We're not surveyors.

453
00:21:52,580 --> 00:21:54,200
So it gets a little
tricky there.

454
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,540
And that's why I'm
kind of hesitant

455
00:21:55,540 --> 00:21:58,060
sometimes when people
ask me to come stake

456
00:21:58,060 --> 00:21:59,740
and we'll a structure.

457
00:21:59,740 --> 00:22:04,540
I've been advised from the
AAMC and McPizza lawyers

458
00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:07,000
that that's kind
of tricky business,

459
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,680
because if it does
go to court now,

460
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,360
you're the expert witness that
wheeled off that distance,

461
00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:13,580
and you have to
prove you know where

462
00:22:13,580 --> 00:22:15,140
you started that point from.

463
00:22:15,140 --> 00:22:17,820
So again, right
there, I'm concerned

464
00:22:17,820 --> 00:22:22,800
that putting this into place,
he said, this is a civil matter.

465
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,960
This is between neighbors.

466
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,700
They should figure it out.

467
00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:28,280
My neighbor and
I figured it out.

468
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,940
They didn't realize
they'd built too close.

469
00:22:31,940 --> 00:22:32,720
No big deal.

470
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,100
We are polite and
figured it out.

471
00:22:36,100 --> 00:22:38,580
All of a sudden,
we have something.

472
00:22:38,580 --> 00:22:40,960
Is that going to suck
us in to something.

473
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,460
That should be a civil matter.

474
00:22:44,460 --> 00:22:49,460
I'm being the devil's
advocate here or trying.

475
00:22:49,460 --> 00:22:51,540
Worst case scenario.

476
00:22:51,540 --> 00:22:53,900
I don't know.

477
00:22:53,900 --> 00:22:54,640
We're here.

478
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,020
Yes Nikki.

479
00:22:57,020 --> 00:22:58,360
Could you Trevor, elaborate.

480
00:22:58,360 --> 00:22:59,840
Do we know other counties.

481
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,160
Have they adopted something
similar here in Minnesota.

482
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,120
I don't know planning
Minnesota very well.

483
00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:07,260
So what is a standard.

484
00:23:07,260 --> 00:23:08,660
Yeah commissioner.

485
00:23:08,660 --> 00:23:11,900
Board Chair, administrator.

486
00:23:11,900 --> 00:23:13,920
I don't know the exact numbers.

487
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,180
I know it's not common
practice to require

488
00:23:16,180 --> 00:23:17,920
surveys on the County level.

489
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,560
Many municipalities do.

490
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,460
But I think that's the
nature of the smaller lots.

491
00:23:22,460 --> 00:23:27,430
Higher density housing I could
certainly do some research

492
00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:29,790
and try to find those numbers.

493
00:23:29,790 --> 00:23:32,030
This language was
just kind of built

494
00:23:32,030 --> 00:23:37,470
from the ground up without
much input from counterparts.

495
00:23:37,470 --> 00:23:43,430
Mostly because the counties
I think the philosophy is

496
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:46,550
that most of these situations
should be handled civilly

497
00:23:46,550 --> 00:23:50,030
in the counties roll a lot of
times is to make them aware

498
00:23:50,030 --> 00:23:53,790
and tell them this
needs to be resolved.

499
00:23:53,790 --> 00:23:56,830
So yeah, I guess I don't
have that exact that exact

500
00:23:56,830 --> 00:23:59,990
number of how many counties in
the state use surveys for site

501
00:23:59,990 --> 00:24:01,190
plans.

502
00:24:01,190 --> 00:24:03,670
I don't have that answer either.

503
00:24:03,670 --> 00:24:06,930
So just I wasn't looking
for an exact number,

504
00:24:06,930 --> 00:24:11,830
but if it is a general practice,
I was looking more for that.

505
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:13,630
Any other discussion.

506
00:24:13,630 --> 00:24:16,610
I do understand the I
guess, the purpose of it.

507
00:24:16,610 --> 00:24:20,790
I can see the scenario where
we expect people to act

508
00:24:20,790 --> 00:24:24,520
in good faith and it could
maybe not happen in a scenario

509
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,640
where perhaps the neighbor
doesn't have enough money

510
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,160
to go get a survey to push
back against the construction

511
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,120
their neighbor is
doing or hire a lawyer.

512
00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:38,280
That part of it where it
can really protect maybe

513
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,840
the neighbor who's
not building up.

514
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,720
I do have some of the same
concerns as Brad and Dawn.

515
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,660
And also kind of
construction timelines.

516
00:24:47,660 --> 00:24:50,280
Like, I know sometimes it
can be difficult to get

517
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,680
a survey scheduled,
especially in the middle

518
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,080
of summer construction season.

519
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,300
So I do have pushback
there as well.

520
00:24:57,300 --> 00:25:01,400


521
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,300
And yeah, some of
those same concerns.

522
00:25:03,300 --> 00:25:07,220
You guys have any more
discussion Mr. Chair.

523
00:25:07,220 --> 00:25:10,680
Yes so the planning commission
took this up in June

524
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,840
and it passed unanimously
at that point.

525
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,560
What was any discussion
or prior to that

526
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,700
or what were their views.

527
00:25:19,700 --> 00:25:21,120
Yeah Mr. Chair.

528
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:22,490
Commissioner Schaaf.

529
00:25:22,490 --> 00:25:26,450
We started out the language
a little aggressive, I think.

530
00:25:26,450 --> 00:25:29,310
I think it was at 50 feet
from the property line.

531
00:25:29,310 --> 00:25:32,250
We were discussing
requiring a survey.

532
00:25:32,250 --> 00:25:34,850
Our office wasn't
a big fan of that

533
00:25:34,850 --> 00:25:36,730
number just because it didn't.

534
00:25:36,730 --> 00:25:39,130
It wasn't pertaining to
the actual setback line

535
00:25:39,130 --> 00:25:40,350
that we're concerned about.

536
00:25:40,350 --> 00:25:43,850
And sometimes you run into
narrower lots, older lots where

537
00:25:43,850 --> 00:25:46,510
that no matter where
they go on the property,

538
00:25:46,510 --> 00:25:48,050
they're going to require survey.

539
00:25:48,050 --> 00:25:51,110
So then it was brought
back to be revised.

540
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:52,690
And that's where we
came up with the 5 foot

541
00:25:52,690 --> 00:25:55,770
from the setback line.

542
00:25:55,770 --> 00:25:58,530
A lot of the
discussion I mean, we

543
00:25:58,530 --> 00:26:02,290
had similar discussion to
what we're having right here.

544
00:26:02,290 --> 00:26:05,930
A lot talk about the
expense of the survey.

545
00:26:05,930 --> 00:26:07,750
But I feel like the
planning commission,

546
00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:10,330
they're very objective and
trying to meet and reach

547
00:26:10,330 --> 00:26:11,790
a goal that we're discussing.

548
00:26:11,790 --> 00:26:14,330
So in the end, it
was unanimously

549
00:26:14,330 --> 00:26:16,830
voted to approve or
recommend approval, I think,

550
00:26:16,830 --> 00:26:20,190
because we had kind of
achieved what we set out to do.

551
00:26:20,190 --> 00:26:23,300


552
00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:26,980
Yeah, there wasn't a
whole lot other than what

553
00:26:26,980 --> 00:26:29,100
we've discussed here today.

554
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:34,820
But in the end, they did all
vote to recommend approval.

555
00:26:34,820 --> 00:26:37,320
Any other discussion, Mr. Chair.

556
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,980
With that being said, should
it be something that goes back

557
00:26:39,980 --> 00:26:43,660
to the planning commission
to talk further on or because

558
00:26:43,660 --> 00:26:46,420
of the concerns raised today.

559
00:26:46,420 --> 00:26:48,400
Yeah, that's certainly
an option on the table,

560
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,620
is to send it back with a list
of the concerns we've discussed

561
00:26:52,620 --> 00:26:56,020
at the board level could maybe
even address how many counties

562
00:26:56,020 --> 00:26:58,500
in the state utilize surveys.

563
00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:02,820
And it may give me an option to
sit down with some legal counsel

564
00:27:02,820 --> 00:27:06,160
and try to flush out some of
those unintended consequences.

565
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,600
We've been discussing.

566
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,820
Well, at this time, the
resolution on the floor

567
00:27:09,820 --> 00:27:14,080
is to adopt this Amendment to
the current zoning ordinance.

568
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,600
So we would be voting on that.

569
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,820
And then if it's
approved, there would be

570
00:27:18,820 --> 00:27:20,860
no reason for further action.

571
00:27:20,860 --> 00:27:25,180
If it's not approved, then if
the planning and zoning board

572
00:27:25,180 --> 00:27:28,620
wish to come up
with some other idea

573
00:27:28,620 --> 00:27:32,340
that they have that
opportunity, I guess.

574
00:27:32,340 --> 00:27:36,260
Agreed any other discussion.

575
00:27:36,260 --> 00:27:36,960
Hearing none.

576
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,420
Will the clerk
please call the roll

577
00:27:38,420 --> 00:27:40,320
Mr. Chair, just a
quick question then.

578
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,620
So if the resolution
fails, is it the wish

579
00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:49,820
of the board for the
planning commission to rehab,

580
00:27:49,820 --> 00:27:52,100
to look at some of
these key points

581
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:54,180
because the planning
commission will take direction

582
00:27:54,180 --> 00:27:56,020
from the County Board.

583
00:27:56,020 --> 00:27:59,540
So, I mean, the planning
commission could add things

584
00:27:59,540 --> 00:28:03,660
on its own to the agenda, but
it would be curious to know what

585
00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:07,120
the direction of the County
Board is if the County Board,

586
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:11,960
if my personal thoughts that
if this doesn't if this fails,

587
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,240
that it's done.

588
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,500
I don't know that we should
be traveling down this road

589
00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:17,200
anyway, to be honest with you.

590
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,450
That's my thoughts.

591
00:28:18,450 --> 00:28:20,990
I don't know if anybody
else wants to share theirs

592
00:28:20,990 --> 00:28:26,010
or would be happy to have an
opinion from our attorney.

593
00:28:26,010 --> 00:28:29,310


594
00:28:29,310 --> 00:28:30,470
Are you talking about.

595
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:33,470
Yeah do you have an opinion
on this, Mr. Walker.

596
00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:34,770
No no.

597
00:28:34,770 --> 00:28:36,790
OK OK.

598
00:28:36,790 --> 00:28:39,670
Anybody else wanted to share.

599
00:28:39,670 --> 00:28:43,830
Anything else before
we call the roll.

600
00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:44,950
All right.

601
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:47,070
Please call the
roll Mr. Stevenson.

602
00:28:47,070 --> 00:28:48,950
No commissioner.

603
00:28:48,950 --> 00:28:51,150
Commissioner? yes, Commissioner.

604
00:28:51,150 --> 00:28:52,050
Yes, Commissioner.

605
00:28:52,050 --> 00:28:53,310
Edwin no.

606
00:28:53,310 --> 00:28:56,670
Resolution has failed.

607
00:28:56,670 --> 00:28:57,330
Moving on.

608
00:28:57,330 --> 00:28:58,890
Report of Human Services.

609
00:28:58,890 --> 00:29:11,590


610
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:12,690
Good morning, Mr. Chair.

611
00:29:12,690 --> 00:29:14,930
Good morning, commissioners
administrator,

612
00:29:14,930 --> 00:29:17,920
I have one item for your
consideration this morning.

613
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,240
The mental health
center is required

614
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,760
to maintain some
maintain client files

615
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,400
in accordance with
Minnesota statute 245 0.09.

616
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,640
The electronic health record
that we use is called Care logic

617
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,360
and qualify as the vendor of
that electronic health record.

618
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,860
If that contract
were to auto renew,

619
00:29:37,860 --> 00:29:41,920
we would have seen a 6%
increase for the coming year.

620
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,320
So we were able to
negotiate a new contract,

621
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,000
which resulted in a 4%
increase rather than the six.

622
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,360
That's the easy part.

623
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,160
The more complicated
piece of this

624
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,240
is the telehealth
platform that's been used

625
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,160
has previously been
provided and paid

626
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:03,440
for by the CBI, which is our 10
County Mental Health Initiative.

627
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,960
And that was started
during COVID.

628
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,080
Because all of a sudden
everybody had to do telehealth.

629
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,200
So since then, laws have
changed on the federal level

630
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,390
and the state level that allow
more accessible telehealth,

631
00:30:16,390 --> 00:30:18,550
which is a pretty regular
practice across the board,

632
00:30:18,550 --> 00:30:20,730
across the country, actually.

633
00:30:20,730 --> 00:30:26,210
Also, since then, the other
counties in our initiative

634
00:30:26,210 --> 00:30:33,410
have gone to other options like
adopting teams, another platform

635
00:30:33,410 --> 00:30:35,650
such as CoreLogic.

636
00:30:35,650 --> 00:30:39,610
So our mental health
center is the only entity

637
00:30:39,610 --> 00:30:41,970
still utilizing
those Zoom licenses

638
00:30:41,970 --> 00:30:44,170
paid for by the initiative.

639
00:30:44,170 --> 00:30:47,770
Now, the type of Zoom
license that's required

640
00:30:47,770 --> 00:30:50,410
is an enterprise license
because of its integration

641
00:30:50,410 --> 00:30:53,250
with the electronic health
record, it's HIPAA compliance.

642
00:30:53,250 --> 00:30:57,770
All of the rules that have
to be done with telehealth,

643
00:30:57,770 --> 00:31:02,410
and the minimum license
purchase for that level of Zoom

644
00:31:02,410 --> 00:31:04,250
is 100 licenses.

645
00:31:04,250 --> 00:31:06,870
It doesn't make sense for
the initiative or for us,

646
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:09,650
frankly, to purchase
100 licenses

647
00:31:09,650 --> 00:31:11,610
to do telehealth
when we need a very

648
00:31:11,610 --> 00:31:13,740
small number of those licenses.

649
00:31:13,740 --> 00:31:18,420
So the contract with
qualify for CoreLogic

650
00:31:18,420 --> 00:31:20,980
includes a telehealth
platform that's integrated

651
00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:24,180
into each client's file.

652
00:31:24,180 --> 00:31:27,820
And it also integrates a.

653
00:31:27,820 --> 00:31:30,400
If you'll recall,
a few months ago,

654
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,460
I brought a contract for the
text reminders and things

655
00:31:35,460 --> 00:31:36,640
like that for clients.

656
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,500
You have an appointment,
come in and you

657
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:42,400
get when you go to the doctor,
you get those reminders.

658
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,300
So this platform
also integrates that.

659
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:50,200
So this contract would bring
in the telehealth platform,

660
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,300
that other platform and our
current electronic health

661
00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:56,260
record.

662
00:31:56,260 --> 00:31:58,380
All of those things
would be streamlined.

663
00:31:58,380 --> 00:32:02,420
The billing invoicing
documentation

664
00:32:02,420 --> 00:32:05,580
would all be done much more
efficiently, much more quickly

665
00:32:05,580 --> 00:32:07,020
and with more accuracy.

666
00:32:07,020 --> 00:32:10,980
By going this direction, if
we were needing to purchase

667
00:32:10,980 --> 00:32:13,980
those other pieces separately.

668
00:32:13,980 --> 00:32:17,180
We would see over $25,000
increase in the amount that we

669
00:32:17,180 --> 00:32:20,060
would be required to
maintain their services

670
00:32:20,060 --> 00:32:22,500
as we're providing them now.

671
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:26,940
And this option
is seeing a $6,300

672
00:32:26,940 --> 00:32:29,080
increase rather than 25,000.

673
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:34,860
So that is the contract that is
presented in the Board packet

674
00:32:34,860 --> 00:32:36,060
today.

675
00:32:36,060 --> 00:32:40,540
So that would be my request
is for to consider resolution

676
00:32:40,540 --> 00:32:42,420
approving this
current this contract

677
00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:45,940
with qualify for the
electronic health record

678
00:32:45,940 --> 00:32:49,380
with the added telehealth
platform in the client

679
00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:51,620
portal, which includes
the integration of all

680
00:32:51,620 --> 00:32:55,540
of those services that
we're already providing.

681
00:32:55,540 --> 00:32:57,860
So I would like to
enter that resolution.

682
00:32:57,860 --> 00:32:59,560
I'll enter that
resolution, Mr. Chair.

683
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,840
Entered by Commissioner casa.

684
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,980
Is there a second.

685
00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:02,720
I'll second.

686
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,780
Second by Commissioner schoff.

687
00:33:04,780 --> 00:33:08,520
Any discussion Mr. Chair, just
thank you for that explanation,

688
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,870
because that was a lot more
information than what I could

689
00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:12,010
just get off the paperwork.

690
00:33:12,010 --> 00:33:13,750
So thank you.

691
00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:15,190
Any other discussion.

692
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:15,970
Board Chair.

693
00:33:15,970 --> 00:33:18,590
Yes Did you run that
through with it.

694
00:33:18,590 --> 00:33:23,690
Is it maybe state system pulling
data separate from our data.

695
00:33:23,690 --> 00:33:26,850
Or is there any integration
that we need to worry about.

696
00:33:26,850 --> 00:33:29,170
There's no integration
with any state system.

697
00:33:29,170 --> 00:33:32,270
It's the software
we're already using

698
00:33:32,270 --> 00:33:34,470
and have been for 16 years.

699
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:37,630
So thank you Susie.

700
00:33:37,630 --> 00:33:42,310
Any other comments,
concerns questions.

701
00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:42,930
Hearing none.

702
00:33:42,930 --> 00:33:45,110
Will the clerk call the roll.

703
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:46,510
Yes, Commissioner.

704
00:33:46,510 --> 00:33:50,650
Yes Mr. Yes Mr.
Yes Mr. Edwin yes.

705
00:33:50,650 --> 00:33:51,410
It is passed.

706
00:33:51,410 --> 00:33:52,350
Thank you.

707
00:33:52,350 --> 00:33:54,270
Thank you.

708
00:33:54,270 --> 00:33:55,730
Report of Public Works.

709
00:33:55,730 --> 00:34:02,350


710
00:34:02,350 --> 00:34:03,370
Good morning, Mr. Chair.

711
00:34:03,370 --> 00:34:04,670
Good morning commissioners.

712
00:34:04,670 --> 00:34:07,650
I have one item for your
consideration this morning.

713
00:34:07,650 --> 00:34:10,520
It is a resolution approving
MnDOT detour maintenance

714
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,360
agreement number 1063524.

715
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,340
This item involves a detour
off of US Highway 218,

716
00:34:18,340 --> 00:34:20,760
in mower County
for culvert repairs

717
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,760
by the state puke The drive
in will use freeborn County

718
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,120
state-aid highway 36 on the
mower County freeborn County

719
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,600
line, and freeborn
County will be

720
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,719
compensated for the
road life consumed

721
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,520
as a result of this traffic.

722
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,920
We've used this agreement
numerous times in the past

723
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,400
and I request your approval.

724
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,480
Someone would like to
enter that resolution.

725
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,900
I'll enter that entered
by Commissioner Severson.

726
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:46,639
Is there a second.

727
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:47,300
I'll second.

728
00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:48,860
Second by Commissioner Eckstrom.

729
00:34:48,860 --> 00:34:50,199
Any discussion.

730
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:51,340
Just a quick question.

731
00:34:51,340 --> 00:34:52,580
What are the dates
of the detour.

732
00:34:52,580 --> 00:34:54,239
Do you know.

733
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,040
That is a fantastic question.

734
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,260
I don't think it's for
this construction season.

735
00:34:59,260 --> 00:35:02,240
I think it's for next
construction season.

736
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:05,120
I will follow up on that and
share that information with you.

737
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:05,940
Sure thank you.

738
00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:09,610
Yep any other discussion.

739
00:35:09,610 --> 00:35:10,190
Hearing none.

740
00:35:10,190 --> 00:35:12,550
Will the clerk please call
the roll Mr. Stevenson.

741
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:16,130
Yes Mr. Yes Mr.
Yes commissioner.

742
00:35:16,130 --> 00:35:18,630
Yes Mr. Yes that is passed.

743
00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:20,650
Thank you all.

744
00:35:20,650 --> 00:35:22,190
Report of the Sheriff's Office.

745
00:35:22,190 --> 00:35:29,610


746
00:35:29,610 --> 00:35:30,110
Good morning.

747
00:35:30,110 --> 00:35:33,110
Commissioners there are two
resolutions in front of you.

748
00:35:33,110 --> 00:35:37,770
The first one is to fill a
vacant patrol deputy position.

749
00:35:37,770 --> 00:35:40,610
About two weeks ago, we
had one of our deputies

750
00:35:40,610 --> 00:35:42,510
that was in training
decided to step down.

751
00:35:42,510 --> 00:35:44,590
And he's taken a different
position with the County.

752
00:35:44,590 --> 00:35:48,270
So we need to backfill
his position now.

753
00:35:48,270 --> 00:35:50,690
So we'd like to do that.

754
00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:53,050
Someone would like to
enter that resolution.

755
00:35:53,050 --> 00:35:54,790
I'll enter that
resolution Mr. Chair,

756
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:56,110
entered by Commissioner casa.

757
00:35:56,110 --> 00:35:58,650
Is there a second.

758
00:35:58,650 --> 00:35:59,310
I'll second.

759
00:35:59,310 --> 00:36:00,770
Second by Commissioner Shaw.

760
00:36:00,770 --> 00:36:04,370
Any discussion.

761
00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:06,780
Will the clerk
please call the roll.

762
00:36:06,780 --> 00:36:10,360
Yes Yes commissioner Shaw.

763
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,580
Yes Mr. Edwin.

764
00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:13,160
Yes that is passed.

765
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,260
Thank you.

766
00:36:14,260 --> 00:36:16,300
The second resolution
is for the sale

767
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:18,320
of one of our old squad cars.

768
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,240
It's a Durango with a little
over 100,000 miles on it.

769
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:24,360
So it's served its
purpose with us.

770
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,480
And it's time to sell it.

771
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,880
And it gets sold on
the auction site.

772
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,280
So someone like to
enter that resolution.

773
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,680
I'll enter this entered
by Commissioner Severson.

774
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,380
Is there a second.

775
00:36:37,380 --> 00:36:38,160
I'll second.

776
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,680
Second by Commissioner Eckstrom.

777
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,020
Any discussion.

778
00:36:43,020 --> 00:36:45,260
Is it the norm to sell
a vehicle that's used

779
00:36:45,260 --> 00:36:48,020
for patrol at 100,000 or.

780
00:36:48,020 --> 00:36:52,180
Yeah so we sell them
more on time frame

781
00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:54,540
than we do on mileage.

782
00:36:54,540 --> 00:36:59,660
So typically, we are replacing
five or six vehicles a year.

783
00:36:59,660 --> 00:37:03,580
We have 28, give or
take, depending upon what

784
00:37:03,580 --> 00:37:05,700
time of the year it is.

785
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:08,940
And so that's kind of our
so some of the vehicles

786
00:37:08,940 --> 00:37:10,680
are replaced at about six years.

787
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,260
Most of the patrol vehicles are
replaced at about four years.

788
00:37:14,260 --> 00:37:15,660
And they're putting
roughly 20,000

789
00:37:15,660 --> 00:37:17,560
to 25,000 miles a year on.

790
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,020
So it's somewhere
between 75 and 105

791
00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:24,000
is where they're
getting replaced.

792
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,260
In the past we've tried
to do five years before.

793
00:37:29,260 --> 00:37:31,900
And once you get over
that 100,000 mile mark,

794
00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:34,080
the vehicles really start
to nickel and dime you.

795
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,780
And it's better just
to be rid of them.

796
00:37:37,780 --> 00:37:40,780
Any other discussion.

797
00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:41,360
Hearing none.

798
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,540
Will the clerk
please call the roll.

799
00:37:43,540 --> 00:37:47,140
Yes Yes, Commissioner.

800
00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:47,880
Yes, Commissioner.

801
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,680
Edwin? yes, that is passed.

802
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,460
Thank you.

803
00:37:50,460 --> 00:37:53,060
And don't forget,
today starts the first

804
00:37:53,060 --> 00:37:54,760
of the six best days of summer.

805
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,820


806
00:37:58,820 --> 00:38:01,540
All right, moving on then.

807
00:38:01,540 --> 00:38:04,330
Any other items
necessary at this time.

808
00:38:04,330 --> 00:38:06,910


809
00:38:06,910 --> 00:38:07,810
We'll move on.

810
00:38:07,810 --> 00:38:08,810
County Commissioner items.

811
00:38:08,810 --> 00:38:10,110
Commissioner Severson.

812
00:38:10,110 --> 00:38:11,270
Nothing from me.

813
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:13,710
Thank you, Commissioner casa.

814
00:38:13,710 --> 00:38:15,970
Just same as Sheriff Shay.

815
00:38:15,970 --> 00:38:18,630
Reminder, six best days
of summer are here.

816
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:19,530
All right.

817
00:38:19,530 --> 00:38:21,270
Thank you, Commissioner shauf.

818
00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:22,490
Nothing at this time.

819
00:38:22,490 --> 00:38:24,790
Thank you, Commissioner Ekstrom.

820
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:26,350
Just a couple of things.

821
00:38:26,350 --> 00:38:28,790
If anybody from
our smaller cities

822
00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:31,310
is listening, which I
always hope they are.

823
00:38:31,310 --> 00:38:36,050
There are DNR grants available
dealing with emerald ash borer.

824
00:38:36,050 --> 00:38:37,430
So some of these
small communities

825
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:40,230
can be replacing their trees.

826
00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:42,490
But the money also helps
get rid of the trees,

827
00:38:42,490 --> 00:38:43,910
which is very costly.

828
00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:48,010
And then also the Southern
Minnesota Initiative Foundation,

829
00:38:48,010 --> 00:38:49,550
they have two grant
cycles that are

830
00:38:49,550 --> 00:38:53,530
open right now for communities
that are under 10,000 people.

831
00:38:53,530 --> 00:38:56,670
And I know a number of
our small communities now,

832
00:38:56,670 --> 00:38:58,630
I feel like more
than in the past

833
00:38:58,630 --> 00:39:01,680
are taking advantage
of those small grants.

834
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,000
And it's a great thing for
these small communities.

835
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:10,740
And then thank you for
discussing priorities for AMC.

836
00:39:10,740 --> 00:39:14,400
And I'm curious to know right
now if anybody is signed up

837
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,400
to go to AMC, the policy
conference in September,

838
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,360
not to put anybody
on the spot, but just

839
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,360
for us to be thinking how we
will divide up those messages

840
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,140
based on our committees at AMC.

841
00:39:27,140 --> 00:39:29,760
So if not all five
of us are going,

842
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,100
and there are key
things that fall under,

843
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:36,680
for example, law enforcement
or public works or environment

844
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,580
and natural resources.

845
00:39:37,580 --> 00:39:41,640
We want to make sure we
get those messages to AMC.

846
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,900
So, so I said, I didn't mean
to put anybody on the spot,

847
00:39:44,900 --> 00:39:46,920
but I just want to
be thinking about,

848
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,840
it's great that our
department heads

849
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,960
have put in the
work of determining

850
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,460
what some of our priorities
are at the County level.

851
00:39:53,460 --> 00:39:57,020
We just want to make sure that
message is getting to AMC.

852
00:39:57,020 --> 00:40:00,230
So it's in Bemidji this year.

853
00:40:00,230 --> 00:40:01,890
Correct it is.

854
00:40:01,890 --> 00:40:04,190
At some point,
sooner versus later,

855
00:40:04,190 --> 00:40:05,770
we probably should
have an affirmation

856
00:40:05,770 --> 00:40:07,990
of who all plans to attend.

857
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:11,810
So just so that's on our radar
because it's coming up quickly.

858
00:40:11,810 --> 00:40:15,730
And then the.

859
00:40:15,730 --> 00:40:16,430
Two things.

860
00:40:16,430 --> 00:40:18,210
One, I had a
freeborn County Trail

861
00:40:18,210 --> 00:40:20,370
Association meeting last night.

862
00:40:20,370 --> 00:40:22,990
So this is in support
of all trails.

863
00:40:22,990 --> 00:40:25,930
And the topic comes
up over and over again

864
00:40:25,930 --> 00:40:27,350
with the blazing star trail.

865
00:40:27,350 --> 00:40:29,610
The fact that they have
that approximately one

866
00:40:29,610 --> 00:40:33,570
mile that still is
not hard surfaced yet.

867
00:40:33,570 --> 00:40:38,450
And we had the discussion, if
perhaps the County, the city

868
00:40:38,450 --> 00:40:40,730
of Albert Lea, the
city of Hayward

869
00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:44,670
would maybe want to do a
joint letter in support,

870
00:40:44,670 --> 00:40:46,130
get it up to the DNR.

871
00:40:46,130 --> 00:40:48,370
The funds are there.

872
00:40:48,370 --> 00:40:51,770
The issue that is
dragging this out

873
00:40:51,770 --> 00:40:55,650
is they want to repair
a bigger segment

874
00:40:55,650 --> 00:40:58,000
of the trail, all in one shot.

875
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,420
Now they have found that a big
portion of the trail with, I'm

876
00:41:01,420 --> 00:41:04,020
sorry, a portion of the trail
we're dealing with a big Hill

877
00:41:04,020 --> 00:41:05,900
is not ADA compliant.

878
00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:08,300
Now, the latest
is they can't make

879
00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:10,940
it ADA compliant
because that trail

880
00:41:10,940 --> 00:41:13,000
isn't possible to be rerouted.

881
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,340
So it's just this crazy
situation of a trail that

882
00:41:17,340 --> 00:41:18,640
never seems to be complete.

883
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,900
When you have a
city of Hayward that

884
00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:21,760
can greatly benefit from it.

885
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,940
Freeborn County as a
whole city of Albert Lea

886
00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:28,220
can benefit from getting this
last little small segment

887
00:41:28,220 --> 00:41:29,420
asphalted.

888
00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:33,540
And so it just came up
last night at the meeting,

889
00:41:33,540 --> 00:41:34,720
if that is something.

890
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:38,780
So if it could be a five minute
discussion at the workshop

891
00:41:38,780 --> 00:41:41,040
if we want to communicate
with the city of Albert Lea,

892
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,420
the city of Hayward, and just
draft a letter, especially

893
00:41:44,420 --> 00:41:48,200
with us getting up
when I go to AMC,

894
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,520
I get updates from just
dealing with my committees.

895
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,980
I get updates from the DNR,
although I was told the people

896
00:41:55,980 --> 00:41:58,700
that show up for
my updates at AMC

897
00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:01,080
are not the right people
to be communicating with.

898
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,460
And so I do have some
contacts at the DNR

899
00:42:04,460 --> 00:42:07,060
that I think would be
receptive or who we would

900
00:42:07,060 --> 00:42:10,180
be sending that letter to.

901
00:42:10,180 --> 00:42:13,900
And then the last
thing on my list

902
00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:16,820
is I had the privilege of
volunteering out at the four H

903
00:42:16,820 --> 00:42:20,420
building yesterday, and
it is amazing to see

904
00:42:20,420 --> 00:42:24,900
such a robust four-h
program in freeborn County.

905
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:26,600
They one of the
trivia questions.

906
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,960
They have approximately 400.

907
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,420
Well, actually almost 500 kids,
496 kids in freeborn County

908
00:42:31,420 --> 00:42:32,820
signed up through four-h.

909
00:42:32,820 --> 00:42:35,860
And so I worked in
the four-h building

910
00:42:35,860 --> 00:42:39,060
as kids were bringing
in their projects,

911
00:42:39,060 --> 00:42:41,280
and then they were
getting their fair passes.

912
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,100
And then Amy wadding,
one of the things

913
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:46,740
that she implemented this year
was to have the kids fill out

914
00:42:46,740 --> 00:42:49,700
a sheet of paper saying,
in essence, like a life

915
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:51,300
skill that they've
learned through four-h

916
00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:53,300
that they can bring
into adulthood.

917
00:42:53,300 --> 00:42:57,290
And it was phenomenal
to see these kids.

918
00:42:57,290 --> 00:42:59,370
So many kids didn't even
have to think twice.

919
00:42:59,370 --> 00:43:02,870
They were able to write down
everything from speaking

920
00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:06,070
and communicating with adults,
being able to keep appropriate

921
00:43:06,070 --> 00:43:09,270
records, leadership
skills, working with youth,

922
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:12,190
and just the fact
that freeborn County

923
00:43:12,190 --> 00:43:16,050
and this board of Commissioners,
we support the 4H program.

924
00:43:16,050 --> 00:43:18,590
I know fees have
increased over the years

925
00:43:18,590 --> 00:43:23,270
through the extension service,
but we do have a robust program

926
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:25,210
and these are future leaders.

927
00:43:25,210 --> 00:43:27,370
And it was really neat to
be part of that yesterday.

928
00:43:27,370 --> 00:43:30,350
So I just wanted to share
that with you as a board.

929
00:43:30,350 --> 00:43:31,050
All right.

930
00:43:31,050 --> 00:43:31,770
Thank you.

931
00:43:31,770 --> 00:43:33,790
I have two quick items.

932
00:43:33,790 --> 00:43:36,550
The first being our
next public meeting

933
00:43:36,550 --> 00:43:39,390
will be a workshop in
the freeborn freeborn

934
00:43:39,390 --> 00:43:43,350
room on August 11, 2026.

935
00:43:43,350 --> 00:43:45,670
And our next board meeting
right here in this room

936
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:48,870
will be August 18.

937
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:50,450
And that's all I have.

938
00:43:50,450 --> 00:43:52,010
And with that, we are adjourned.

939
00:43:52,010 --> 00:43:53,500
Thank you.

940
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:54,000