[0:00] [0:00] Commissioners meeting to order. [0:02] All, please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:06] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, [0:11] and to the Republic for which it stands. [0:14] One nation under God, indivisible, [0:18] with liberty and justice for all. [0:20] [0:25] Welcome, everyone. [0:28] We'll start by looking for a motion [0:29] to approve the meeting agenda. [0:33] I'll make that motion. [0:34] Motion made by Commissioner Severson. [0:37] Is there a second. [0:38] I'll second it. [0:39] Second by Commissioner casa. [0:41] Any discussion. [0:44] Hearing none. [0:45] All those in favor, signify by saying Aye. [0:47] Aye Opposed. [0:49] Same sign. [0:50] Meeting agenda has been approved. [0:54] Looking for a resolution approving the consent agenda [0:57] with the following approval of minutes from the August [1:00] 18, 2026 board meeting. [1:03] Approval of minutes and finding and order [1:05] from the August 18, 2026 County ditch 55 public hearing. [1:11] Approval of claims. [1:13] Someone wished to make that resolution [1:16] all into the resolution entered by Commissioner Eckstrom. [1:19] Is there a second. [1:20] I'll second it. [1:21] Second by Commissioner Shaw. [1:23] Any discussion. [1:25] Hearing none. [1:25] Will the clerk please call the roll Mr. Stevenson. [1:28] Yes Yes commissioner. [1:31] Shaw? yes, Commissioner. [1:32] Edwin yes, that is passed. [1:36] Moving on. [1:37] Report of board committees, Commissioner Severson. [1:40] Yes I had the convention and Visitors Bureau meeting, [1:43] and that was more informative. [1:44] They didn't reach a quorum. [1:46] So that is all I have. [1:48] Thank you, Commissioner casa. [1:51] I attended the board training that we had. [1:53] I really enjoyed that. [1:54] I thought it was very helpful. [1:57] Also had contract negotiations and had [2:01] a meeting with our administrator and our extension agent. [2:06] And then I had the meeting yesterday. [2:09] That's all. [2:10] Thank you. [2:11] Commissioner schoff. [2:12] Yes I attended the training session [2:15] and I thought Dave did a good job. [2:17] I've known him for years. [2:20] Thank you, Commissioner Eckstrom. [2:23] Yep same thing. [2:24] Was able to partake in the training [2:25] session, which I always enjoyed spending time with all of you. [2:28] And I attended that AMC lunch and learn. [2:31] Just kind of a refresher on how AMC comes up [2:33] with their policy platforms, considering we [2:36] have the conference coming up. [2:37] So thank you. [2:40] And I too attended the AMC board training, [2:44] also met with the weekly. [2:45] Our weekly meetings with the administration, [2:49] sat through some union negotiations, [2:53] and also had a meeting with the Albert Lea housing authority [2:58] and they're moving forward. [3:00] Quite doing a good job moving forward. [3:04] Trying to get more housing in Albert Lea. [3:08] So moving on. [3:09] Are there any persons wishing to address the board concerning [3:12] matters pertaining to this agenda, [3:14] as well as any other matters of County concern. [3:18] If so, please come forward at this time. [3:23] Seeing none, we'll move on. [3:25] Report of various departments. [3:27] Beginning with report of probation. [3:29] [3:42] Good morning commissioners. [3:44] Good morning. [3:44] Good morning. [3:45] So I've got a few resolutions for you to consider today. [3:49] The first is to consider a resolution to accept the grant [3:53] for decision points for $1,500. [3:59] Would someone like to enter that resolution. [4:02] I'll enter the resolution entered by Commissioner Ekstrom. [4:05] Is there a second. [4:06] I'll second it. [4:07] Second by Commissioner casa. [4:09] Any discussion. [4:10] Yes, Mr. Chair, I had a number of questions. [4:12] I had submitted them yesterday just to give you the heads [4:14] up about some of this. [4:16] So just the decisions points program, is that a new program [4:20] or is it something that you guys have been doing for a while. [4:24] This is a program we have offered in the past. [4:27] For adults. [4:28] This would be a new program for juveniles. [4:30] And then is it a mandated program or just something [4:35] that is being added on. [4:38] This is well this is there's different levels of mandated. [4:44] So the program itself is not mandated. [4:47] However, we are mandated to provide cognitive skills [4:52] trainings or programs. [4:54] So this would be mandated through that. [4:56] And so we would be able to serve clients. [4:59] And so then so if this segment is a newer program, [5:04] was it part then of the 2026 budget or a line item [5:08] in the 2026 budget, or is it part of a different line [5:11] item in the budget. [5:12] I guess the reason I'm asking, and I'm [5:15] sorry to put you, Sarah, on the hot spot [5:17] on the first time presenting to us as a board. [5:20] So that's why I keep. [5:21] That's OK. [5:21] We'll jump right in. [5:22] I'm looking at Steve to try to take some [5:24] of that pressure off of you. [5:25] I appreciate that. [5:27] And so I guess what I'm getting at [5:29] is at a time when we're looking at significant budget challenges [5:36] to add something. [5:37] And even though I'm so thrilled with the generosity [5:41] of freeborn County Community foundation, [5:43] but at the same time, if that grant isn't going [5:47] to cover the entire amount and we're adding [5:49] something that those are. [5:51] So that's where I was kind of looking [5:52] for more information into that. [5:55] Mr. Chair, if I may. [5:57] Sure so we have or the probation department does [6:01] have budgeted line items for training [6:04] and then for programmatic costs. [6:07] And so Sarah said, cognitive skills is a program [6:11] that we've budgeted for. [6:15] And so the ongoing cost for this program [6:20] pretty much would just be staff time. [6:22] And so we already have the majority of the materials [6:26] that are needed. [6:27] Before I transitioned upstairs, I [6:29] was working with the agent that was [6:32] kind of spearheading this on. [6:34] Are there ways that we can laminate some of the materials [6:38] so it can be reused and making sure that we're being [6:41] as cost effective as possible. [6:44] This is one of the programs. [6:46] Like Sarah said, there's different levels [6:48] of mandates in probation. [6:50] There's stuff that's specifically outlined in statute [6:53] that we have to do different reports [6:56] for the court and different type of supervision [6:58] that we have to provide. [6:59] There's other things that are mandated through the 401 [7:06] statute talks about. [7:08] It empowers the CSAC committee to set policy [7:11] at a statewide level that all probation [7:13] agencies have to follow. [7:15] And so they have rolled out policy in case planning [7:20] as part of the case planning policy. [7:22] They talk about agencies have to provide [7:25] cognitive behavioral intervention programming [7:28] for individuals on supervision, including juveniles [7:32] and including juveniles. [7:34] And so that would be, everybody adult juvenile. [7:40] And then we also there's certain mandates [7:42] that come from court orders. [7:44] So if we're court ordered to do certain things, [7:47] then that becomes something we have to abide by. [7:49] And so there are individuals that [7:51] are court ordered to cognitive skills programming. [7:55] One of the primary goals for this, [7:58] and if you recall from different work sessions [8:01] since I've been here, I've talked about or workshops. [8:05] I've talked about the need to transition [8:07] from out-of-home placement for juveniles in particular [8:10] being our primary focus or of our first point [8:14] of response with the kid to being kind of a last resort. [8:18] And so making sure that we're utilizing all services [8:21] available in the community before we're [8:23] sending a kid out of home. [8:26] Part of that, there's a lot of reasons. [8:28] And talking about the long term impacts of sending a kid out [8:33] of home can have significant impacts on their ultimate [8:37] recidivism down the road as an adult. [8:40] But if you look at it solely from a numbers point, [8:44] an out-of-home placement you're looking [8:46] at could be over $12,000 a month to have a kid out of the home. [8:50] Or we can Institute a program. [8:54] That's relatively cheap to hopefully avoid [8:57] those out-of-home placement costs. [8:59] And so the whole premise of cognitive behavioral [9:01] interventions is that you're getting [9:03] the individual to think about how their thoughts [9:06] impact their behaviors. [9:07] And so if we can change their thoughts, [9:09] the hope is that we can change behavior. [9:11] The other piece is probation departments [9:14] are required every four years to submit a comprehensive plan [9:18] to the state. [9:20] And then we have to do two year updates for that. [9:23] And so a big part of those Comp plans [9:25] is to report on outcome measures and data. [9:29] One of the data points that the state looks specifically at [9:32] is what cognitive behavioral interventions are [9:35] each probation agency employing, and what are [9:38] some of the outcomes for that. [9:39] And so not abiding by and not offering anything locally [9:45] puts the subsidy at risk. [9:47] And so there is the cost of staff time. [9:52] And that could be group programming where [9:55] we have groups of juveniles meeting together [9:57] going through the program. [9:59] But then there's also the ability [10:01] for agents to implement this in their one [10:04] on one meetings with the clients and do it individually, and so [10:07] that staff time would already be devoted to spending time [10:10] with that kid. [10:11] And so it's making that more effective [10:14] and more useful in the time that they have with them. [10:17] OK thank you I appreciate it. [10:19] So to a certain extent, we're already doing some of this. [10:25] A lot of this. [10:25] And this allows us to get $1,500. [10:29] Correct OK. [10:31] Any other discussion. [10:33] [10:35] Hearing none. [10:36] Will the clerk call the roll. [10:38] Yes Yes, Commissioner. [10:42] Yes, that is passed. [10:46] I would like you to consider the resolution [10:49] to accept grants for coffee connections [10:51] in the amount of $1,000. [10:54] Would someone like to enter that resolution. [10:57] I like that. [10:58] Entered by Commissioner schoff. [10:59] Is there a second. [11:01] I'll second. [11:02] Second by Commissioner Severson. [11:03] Any discussion. [11:04] [11:07] Hearing none. [11:08] Will the clerk please call the roll. [11:10] Yes Yes. [11:14] Commissioner Edwin. [11:15] Yes that is passed. [11:18] Thank you. [11:19] Next, I ask that you consider resolution [11:22] to backfill the position of adult probation agent. [11:27] Someone wish to enter that resolution. [11:29] [11:32] I'll enter this resolution entered [11:33] by Commissioner Severson. [11:35] Is there a second. [11:36] I'll second it. [11:36] Second by Commissioner schoff. [11:38] Any discussion. [11:41] Hearing none. [11:42] Will the clerk call the roll Mr. yes Mr. yes. [11:47] Yes, that is passed. [11:50] Thank you. [11:51] And finally, I ask that you consider the resolution [11:54] to appoint the director of probation me [11:57] to the freeborn County Family service and children's [12:01] mental Health Collaborative. [12:04] Someone like to enter that resolution. [12:07] I'll enter that resolution, Mr. Chair. [12:08] Entered by Commissioner casa. [12:10] Is there a second. [12:11] I'll second. [12:12] Second by Commissioner Ekstrom. [12:14] Any discussion. [12:17] Hearing none. [12:18] Will the clerk please call the roll. [12:20] Yes Mr. eckstrom? [12:22] Yes Mr. Shaw. [12:24] Yes commissioner Evans. [12:25] Yes that is passed. [12:27] OK thank you. [12:28] Thank you. [12:29] Report of public health. [12:31] [12:39] Good morning. [12:39] Commissioners, I have one item for your consideration [12:41] this morning. [12:44] So I'd like to ask you to consider a resolution to approve [12:47] the Medica MCO, MSI plus. [12:51] Care coordination and/or participation agreement. [12:56] We currently are serving clients through ucare, which [13:00] is one of our medical assistants programs, [13:05] and ucare is going to be going out of business [13:08] and Medica is taking over that portion. [13:11] And so these are existing clients [13:13] that we're currently seeing. [13:14] So it's not a new program, it's just a replacement of a program. [13:20] I've negotiated a fee with them. [13:22] It's not as much as what ucare pays, [13:25] but we feel that it's going to be pretty cost effective to be [13:30] able to continue the program effectively and cover [13:33] our administration costs. [13:36] If we do this is not a mandated program, but it's that we do. [13:43] But it's a mandated program that is provided to the clients. [13:46] And so if we don't do this program, [13:48] they will contract with another organization that will not [13:51] be a local organization, and our clients will [13:54] likely not appreciate that. [13:55] To have someone that does not know our local resources [13:58] and doesn't have our faces that they already we [14:06] have 117 clients that are going to be transferring over, [14:11] and it would be effective October 1. [14:15] Again, they are all current clients. [14:18] 19 of them are nursing home residents and members. [14:22] 32 of them are elderly waiver participants and 66 of them [14:29] are community well members. [14:33] There is two staff working in this program area, [14:35] and so if we didn't continue with this, [14:38] we would likely lose those two staff. [14:40] [14:44] This is not. [14:45] And I got these questions from Nikki Eckstrom. [14:47] She was great to send them to me. [14:49] So I'm addressing them now. [14:50] And if I miss any questions, please, please [14:52] make sure and ask me. [14:54] As far as we state, and federal regulations [14:57] won't be affecting any of the changes that [15:00] won't be affecting this at all. [15:02] So for this, I asked for you to consider [15:06] approving this participation agreement with Medica. [15:11] Would someone like to enter that resolution. [15:15] I'll enter that. [15:16] Entered by Commissioner Severson. [15:17] Is there a second. [15:19] I'll second. [15:20] Second by Commissioner schoff. [15:22] Any discussion. [15:23] Just I appreciate sue again. [15:25] I tried to give her questions ahead of time. [15:26] So because I had a lot of them. [15:28] So thanks thank you for rattling all those off [15:30] and I appreciate it. [15:32] Appreciate that. [15:33] Any other discussion. [15:36] Will the clerk please call the roll Mr. Stevenson. [15:38] Yes Mr. Yes Mr. Shaw? yes. [15:42] Commissioner yes, that is past. [15:44] Thank you very much. [15:45] Have a great week. [15:47] Report of auditor. [15:49] Treasurer good morning, commissioners administration. [15:56] I have two items for you. [15:58] The first one is a mouthful. [16:01] It is a resolution approving the cancellation [16:04] and setting aside of an erroneous certificate [16:06] of forfeiture. [16:08] So there was a vacant land parcel that went [16:12] up for tax forfeiture in 2026. [16:15] And in doing our history, our fact finding, our due diligence, [16:18] we found a deed from 1978 that was not properly transferred. [16:25] And this parcel should have gone to the state of Minnesota. [16:29] So it should never have had any taxes on it. [16:33] So this resolution removes the forfeiture [16:37] and also removes the taxes that should never have been [16:40] on there in the first place. [16:43] Would someone like to enter that resolution. [16:47] I'll enter the resolution entered by Commissioner Ekstrom. [16:50] Is there a second. [16:53] I'll second it. [16:53] Second by Commissioner casa. [16:55] Any discussion. [16:57] I have questions about this. [16:59] So 1978. [17:01] Yeah so has somebody if it was supposed [17:04] to have gone to the state who was paying the taxes from 1978 [17:08] up until the last five years when it triggered. [17:13] It was exempt up until 22. [17:16] And for reasons we don't understand. [17:18] Then there were taxes put on the exempt, [17:20] I think somebody because we have so many parcels. [17:23] A lot of times we don't look at them [17:24] until they come across our desk and somehow or other, this one [17:27] came across someone's desk. [17:28] They realized it was in a individual's name [17:32] and there was no reason for it to be exempt. [17:34] They took the exempt status off of it. [17:36] So then it started accruing taxes. [17:38] [17:41] I have no idea. [17:42] It was 1978. [17:45] OK yeah. [17:46] All we can do is fix it going forward. [17:47] OK And I did. [17:49] Look, I mean, so for anybody who hears us, it was like $5. [17:53] Yeah, it wasn't a lot. $5 and $6. [17:54] It's a random strip that is like the left side of a ditch. [17:58] Yeah yep. [17:59] It's maybe $20 max. [18:02] Yeah it was just the fact, though, [18:04] that I was just curious to know if somebody [18:05] had been paying taxes since 1978 and shouldn't have been so. [18:09] Nope no taxes at all until somebody [18:11] realized, hey, that shouldn't be exempt and fixed it. [18:15] OK thank you. [18:18] Any other discussion. [18:21] Will the clerk please call the roll Mr. Stevenson. [18:23] Yes Mr. Yes Mr. Yes Mr. Shaw yes Mr. Edwards. [18:28] Yes that is passed. [18:29] Thank you very much. [18:30] The next one, nice and easy. [18:32] It is the latest rendition of banks doing business, which [18:36] is the resolution that authorizes certain people [18:40] to sign on to bank accounts. [18:41] We are adding Mr. Steven Rick, our new CFO, [18:46] to the bank accounts, as he should be. [18:49] Anyway, so I would like to enter that resolution. [18:52] I'll enter that resolution, Mr. Chair. [18:54] Entered by Commissioner casa. [18:56] Is there a second. [18:58] I'll second. [18:58] Second by Commissioner Severson. [19:00] Any discussion. [19:03] Hearing none. [19:04] Will the clerk call the roll Mr. Stevenson. [19:06] Yes Yes but abstaining for Arcadian bank, [19:12] Commissioner Shaw. [19:13] Yes Mr. Edwards. [19:14] Yes, that is passed. [19:16] Thank you. [19:17] Thank you. [19:18] Report of Public Works. [19:20] [19:28] Good morning, Mr. Chair. [19:29] Good morning. [19:29] Commissioners I have two items for your consideration [19:31] this morning, each involving final payments [19:33] and close out on construction contracts. [19:36] The first is a resolution to approve final payment [19:39] for County project. [19:40] 026002 that involve the maintenance [19:44] of traffic markings on various roads in freeborn County. [19:47] Sir Lancelot LLC of Edina, Minnesota, [19:50] completed the project at a total project cost of $180,139.73. [19:58] The resolution authorizes final payment [19:59] in the amount of $169,580.38. [20:06] I would like to enter that resolution. [20:07] I'll enter that entered by Commissioner Severson. [20:10] Is there a second by Commissioner schoff any [20:14] discussion Mr. Chair, it was 180,000, and it [20:19] says it was a budgeted project. [20:20] So did we go over budget on this. [20:23] It says 180. [20:24] Was the total cost budgeted project 169. [20:28] No So our total budget for pavement [20:31] striping this year was 240,000. [20:34] I think that item is labeled as impact to budget or something. [20:40] So this actual item is a budgeted expense of that amount, [20:45] but it is under the total budgeted amount for the work. [20:48] I do also want to point out this contract was smaller this year [20:54] than it typically is because we participated in a district six [20:59] federal striping job that allowed a 90/10 split federal [21:04] money 90% our money 10% for, I'm going [21:08] to say approximately 30 miles of freeborn County Road striping. [21:11] And that saved us some money on this contract this year. [21:15] Next year it'll revert to the normal amount, [21:18] but a smaller overall budgeted amount for pavement marking. [21:22] So thank you. [21:23] Yep any other discussion. [21:27] Will the clerk call the roll. [21:29] Yes Yes, Mr. Yes Mr. Edward. [21:34] Yes that is passed. [21:35] Best and the second resolution is to approve final payment [21:38] for County project 026004 that involved [21:42] the furnishing and application of magnesium chloride [21:45] for base stabilization. [21:47] Freeborn County co-op oil of Albert Lea, [21:49] Minnesota, completed the project at a total [21:51] project cost of $125,388.75. [21:56] The resolution authorizes final payment [21:58] in the amount of $13,130.81. [22:03] So I would like to enter that resolution. [22:05] I'll enter that resolution Mr. Chair, [22:07] entered by Commissioner casa. [22:08] Is there a second. [22:09] I'll second. [22:10] Second by Commissioner Severson. [22:12] Any discussion. [22:14] Will the clerk please call the roll. [22:16] Commissioner? [22:17] yes, Commissioner. [22:17] Casa yes Mr. yes Mr. yes Mr. Edwards. [22:21] Yes And while I have you up here. [22:24] Yes I'm somewhat in the but can you give an update on bridge. [22:29] We kind reached a point where it doesn't [22:31] seem to be nearing completion. [22:34] Yeah, sure. [22:35] So the bridge Avenue project, Mr. Chair, [22:39] that you're referencing was a sealcoat project involving [22:42] the application of bituminous material, [22:46] rocks or chips over the top of that, and then a fog seal. [22:50] There's two ways the project can fail. [22:53] One is stripping, where if there's not enough oil applied [22:56] to the road surface, the rocks don't have the glue [22:59] they need to hold in place. [23:01] Stripping is the worst case scenario. [23:05] What we encountered is flushing, which is when the oil, the rocks [23:09] all lay down completely flat. [23:11] And instead of 70% embedment, they're 100% embedded. [23:15] And that's what we encountered. [23:17] It's the lesser of the two evils, but still undesirable. [23:20] So what you see in the wheel paths is a smoother texture, [23:24] because that oil is forming some of the surface [23:27] instead of just the rocks. [23:29] My concern is that in winter conditions, [23:32] that smooth surface will be more slippery [23:34] than the aggregate surface in the turn lanes [23:36] and between the wheel paths. [23:38] So I've ordered a friction test to be completed. [23:43] Luckily, we are still seeing rock, so in those smooth areas, [23:48] when you look down, you're seeing rock. [23:51] The bituminous will weather away the bituminous extra oil [23:54] and the rock that we need is there, [23:57] but it provides a different visual appearance. [24:00] So my goal is to compare the friction results [24:03] from an ordinary road, a new road, a properly chipseal road, [24:11] and then the failed portions. [24:13] That work will hopefully be done by MnDOT [24:15] in the next week or two. [24:17] The last work on the project is to perform final pavement [24:20] striping, and at this point I. I have yet [24:25] to determine whether or not corrective work [24:28] will fix the issue. [24:31] The answer is not providing more oil in rock, [24:34] it will probably make the issue worse. [24:37] And so based on those friction results, [24:39] that's the last data point that I need to make a decision. [24:42] And then we will negotiate with the contractor [24:44] on any final steps. [24:47] Would there also be negotiation on payment. [24:50] Then also the cost of the project because of some [24:54] of the issues that are ongoing. [24:56] Yeah, I've scoured the construction specification. [25:00] We use the Minnesota Department of Transportation [25:05] standard construction specifications [25:07] on all our projects. [25:08] There are monetary adjustments allowed [25:11] for certain parameters of the materials being provided, [25:14] being out of specification. [25:17] That is not what led to this failure. [25:19] So at this point, I don't know that there [25:21] will be any financial. [25:22] [25:25] Deductions that we're contractually able to recoup, [25:30] but that's only if I believe the project [25:32] will function as it needs to suit our needs. [25:36] So I'm still exploring that, but I [25:37] have not found a provision that would [25:39] allow us to withhold money. [25:41] To date, no, no payment has been made [25:44] on the bridge Avenue project, but that will come due soon. [25:49] OK thank you. [25:52] You're welcome. [25:53] [25:56] Other items as necessary at this time. [26:00] Then we'll move on to County Commissioner items. [26:02] Commissioner Severson. [26:04] Nothing at this time. [26:05] Thank you, Commissioner casa. [26:07] I would just remind people that as we start school [26:11] to drive slower look twice. [26:15] Our children are more important than how fast you get somewhere. [26:18] So bikes, buses, walking. [26:23] Be careful. [26:25] All right. [26:25] Thank you, Commissioner Schaaf. [26:28] There is an email that went out about the ditch hearing [26:30] or potential ditch hearing going on, [26:33] and I think I would request to have it at one [26:38] of our County Board meetings. [26:40] I think if it was something that people can't show up, [26:46] there's always written comments. [26:47] I mean, you pick a time during the day [26:49] and there might be a time during the day [26:51] that people won't be able to show up in the afternoon [26:54] or at night or whatever, but I think [26:58] the people that have been involved in this [27:02] will show up no matter what time or date. [27:04] Now, with the date being said, it was proposed mid October [27:09] I think might want to consider that because of farm work. [27:16] So we might want to put that later in the season [27:20] because some people might be in the fields and that's it. [27:26] All right. [27:26] Thank you for that Commissioner Ekstrom. [27:30] Yeah just the only comments I have there's a lot [27:32] of press about proposed levies. [27:35] Star Tribune has a lot of articles about the burdens [27:40] that counties are facing. [27:41] So we're not the only ones as we know. [27:43] But before we approve our preliminary, [27:48] just have a lot of communicating to do, I think, [27:50] with our constituents. [27:52] I appreciate our County administrator [27:55] handling the data request. [27:56] When we did the moratorium on the data centers renewed that. [28:00] So I know the media had reached out to me. [28:02] I'm assuming that they probably sent us all the exact same email [28:05] or phone calls. [28:06] So I appreciate Melanie grabbing the bull by the horns on that [28:11] and issuing that data requests. [28:16] Is this something. [28:18] And I know I've brought this up in the past. [28:20] Is that something where the County board can learn [28:25] how many hours of staff time and just kind of a refresher on how [28:30] many hours of staff time this is taking [28:33] and a breakdown or these data requests, [28:36] all primarily coming from one person, [28:39] are the data requests coming primarily focusing on the jail [28:42] or just so the board has an idea on the expense that [28:47] is going into this. [28:49] Because I think this also might be a talking point up at the AMC [28:53] and then dealing with this one benefit of the new software [28:56] that the County got. [28:57] And so we're able to actually track not only the requests and [29:00] where they're coming and the type of requests, [29:02] but actually able to track the ones that are taking [29:06] more staff time to compile. [29:08] We are able to track that. [29:09] And so we can see what is the impact to the County [29:13] for all of these requests. [29:15] And so we don't have a lot of data in there [29:19] right now because it is a relatively new program. [29:21] But, we do have a pretty decent sample [29:25] size just from the short time that we have been using it. [29:29] Because when did that software go into effect. [29:32] Do when we started using that. [29:35] That was this summer. [29:36] Oh, so real recently. [29:37] So it's relatively recent. [29:39] Yeah OK. [29:41] And then just two other quick items. [29:46] We had expressed our interest in sharing a letter of support [29:49] to get that blazing, blazing star trail done. [29:52] And the city of Albert Lea. [29:54] Cathy Malachowsky is working on that letter [29:56] and has sent a few drafts. [29:58] And so that will be coming before us at some point. [30:02] And then the last thing I just want to express support [30:06] for our County administrator who isn't here today, and Sue Yost, [30:11] because I know it is miserable to be constantly bashed [30:14] in the newspaper by a particular citizen, [30:17] and especially when they take information and twist it [30:24] and don't give the full story. [30:25] And so I just want our staff to know that I do support you. [30:30] I know you have a lot on your shoulders [30:33] in dealing with your departments. [30:35] And of course, the administrator is not here, [30:38] but it's a lot of work to run a County. [30:41] It's a lot of work to run a department, [30:43] a lot of legal requirements. [30:44] And so I just I appreciate what you do. [30:47] And I am sorry that I mean, obviously I've been the target [30:51] also in the newspaper, but our administrator [30:55] and our public health director in particular constantly. [30:58] And frankly, I find it despicable. [31:01] And so I just want you to know that [31:03] and I want all the public who listens [31:04] to our meetings to know that. [31:05] I think it is absolutely despicable [31:08] how you are constantly called out in the newspaper. [31:11] So anyway, that's it. [31:13] I'll end on that. [31:14] So thank you for what you do. [31:15] All right. [31:16] Just a couple things. [31:17] I wasn't going to say a thing, but I'm [31:18] going to take off on a couple things you said [31:20] and that most recent article that [31:23] was written by that individual. [31:26] Some of the numbers in that were not factual. [31:29] I don't know where they came from, but. [31:34] They were not true at all. [31:37] And then when it comes to data requests, [31:40] I recently spoke to it, and the discussion had to do [31:44] with email and data retention. [31:47] And the positives of that would be twofold, because we have [31:52] to continually increase our storage for all that everything [31:56] is saved, but also when it comes to a data request, [31:59] if it has been deleted and gone, it minimizes some of the work [32:05] that's put into that also. [32:07] So I think it and administration will be working on some policy [32:12] or procedure as far as how long we should be hanging on [32:15] to different things coming in the near future, [32:18] and that is all I have. [32:20] So with that, we are adjourned. [32:22] Thank you.