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It's time.

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Madam Clerk, roll call, please.

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[Roll call]

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>> Good morning, welcome to The Tuesday, August 25th,

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2026 meeting of the Fresno County Board of Supervisors.

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We're going to begin today with an invocation and a flag salute.

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The invocation will be led by district five.

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After the invocation please remain

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standing for the flag salute.

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>> Thank you.

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Here with us today is Pastor Gilbert Montelongo.

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He's a seasoned faith leader and community builder

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based in Sanger, California.

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He serves as senior pastor of tabernacle of praise Christian

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Center with over 30 years of pastoral experience, 27

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as a lead Pastor.

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Pastor Montelongo has been married to his wife Lydia

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for 47 years, and they have three children.

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All three children have full time jobs

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and serve under their father's ministry

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and advocate for the Central Valley.

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Pastor Montelongo contributes to a community to community

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initiatives through the Sanger Fresno Community Task Force

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and participates in the Sanger Pastor's Fellowship Committee,

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creating an opportunity for grassroots engagement

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on local regional and national issues.

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The floor is yours.

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>> Thank you.

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God bless each and every one of you.

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Thank you for the invite.

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It is an honor to pray this morning for you

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and everyone that is present.

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Let's pray.

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Heavenly father we thank you this beautiful morning.

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We thank you for this great county of Fresno

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and the great supervisors at your place

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and the seats of government the governance of this great county.

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For their service their hard work and their efforts,

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and their sacrifice and the welfare

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and the care of the people of Fresno County.

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We know the work is much.

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The task is great.

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We know that in your word, you said that much

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is given much is required.

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You've given them all that they need.

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If their hearts and mind are open to your spirit,

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then we believe that you provide wisdom divine

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wisdom and intellect to govern according to your word.

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We believe that you're with them at all times.

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If they believe this and stand upon it.

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To help guide them and direct them,

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and trusting you that they can build a better Fresno County.

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We believe this and we pray for those that are present here

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today.

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Those that have just come to be informed,

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and those that are here to present their concerns.

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We pray that everything could be addressed in reverence to you

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and also respect to the Board of Supervisors.

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We know that life is about agreeing and disagreeing,

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but we know that we can agree and come to a common ground

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that we want Fresno County to be better, to be stronger

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and to be inviting and welcoming.

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That others would want to come to this county, and be blessed.

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Because the people that lead us, know your heart beat.

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We pray for them, we pray for their families as well.

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We pray for divine protection because we live in the world

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today that is cynical and evil.

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Lord God, And rebellious towards authority.

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And so we as spiritual leaders and others

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join together and pray for them as your word

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says to pray for them and those in authority.

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The work is great.

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We are not in their shoes.

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We know that even our personal responsibilities at work

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and elsewhere and family are much.

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We can imagine their duties and their responsibility.

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Lord, we want to thank you this morning.

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We pray for divine protection.

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We pray for the children their grandchildren.

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We pray that you would protect them.

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That the angel of the Lord would encamp around them.

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Lord Jesus, and we thank you this very moment

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for this opportunity this beautiful morning.

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And more importantly, your presence Lord Jesus,

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and we pray this in the wonderful name of our Lord Jesus

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Christ.

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Amen.

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>> Please salute.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States

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of America and to the Republic for which it stands,

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one nation under God, indivisible,

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with liberty and justice for all.

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>> God bless you.

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>> Thank you very much for those wonderful words.

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>> Mr Chairman, members of the board and members

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of the audience, was originally published stating that Chavez

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would be teleconferencing into the meeting from a location

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in Whittier.

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He was able to Percent in person today.

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>> Agendas are on the back table for anyone wanting to follow.

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Is there a motion and a second to approve the agenda?

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All those in favor, say aye.

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Passes unanimously.

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>> We now move to item number two.

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Approve consent agenda items number 23 to 44.

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>> These matters are approved by a single vote.

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Would any board members like an item removed

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from consent for discussion?

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Seeing none.

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Would any members of the public like

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Is there a motion in a second to approve the rest of the consent?

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All those in favor, say aye.

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Approved >> Now move to item number three.

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Presentation of retirement plan to Laura J Lambright,

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Department of Behavioral Health, 17 years of service.

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>> And Behavioral Health is here to present.

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Come on up.

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>> Good morning.

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On behalf of director Holt, she's

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unable to attend today my name is

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Emma Rasmussen, deputy director for the Department of Behavioral

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Health.

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We are excited to be here to honor

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a longtime employee of the department in the capacity

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of a peer support.

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Peer support does invaluable work for our community.

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To tell you a little bit more about Laura

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and the work that she's done these past many years,

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I want to invite her last supervisor, Jessica Acosta,

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to tell us a little bit more.

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>> Thank you and good morning.

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Laura worked for Fresno County Department of Behavioral Health

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for over 17 years.

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As a peer support specialist, peer support specialists

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are integral members providing support

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for those who continue to struggle

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with their mental health.

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They offer hope and assistance with goals

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when many may not see this as a possibility.

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A peer support specialist lived experience

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for those we serve the perspective that

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through empowerment, healing and self-advocacy are possible.

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Lauren embodies all of that.

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She enthusiastically participated

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in required trainings, departmental or team activities,

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and facilitated peer to peer groups offering support

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to our person served.

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Her peers and colleagues admire her diligence.

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Self-advocacy.

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Dependability, compassion courage, friendliness

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and willingness to collaborate with others.

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I was honored to have been Laura's supervisor

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for the last one and a half years

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with the Department of Behavioral Health.

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During this time, she demonstrated a great work ethic

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and was always willing to help out not only

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her peers when asked to assist when

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offering support to our person, but also without hesitation

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offered to support her support to individuals struggling while

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under conservatorship.

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She facilitated two separate groups.

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One of them on crestwood, the bridge program and others

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at Valley Comfort, the community based board and care facility.

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She assisted individuals in getting

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acclimated to being on conservatorship

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as well as offer them independent living and coping

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skills with the goal of successfully being dismissed

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from conservatorship.

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Throughout her career and Fresno County,

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Lauren exemplified what a caring and compassionate a person

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can be while guiding our vulnerable individuals

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in achieving mental health wellness.

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It is my pleasure to introduce Laura Lambright.

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>> I thank Fresno County for the opportunity gave me for the past

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17 years as a peer support specialist.

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It was fulfilling, enriching and it helped me grow.

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>> That's all right.

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Thank you very much.

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Any comments from the public?

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[Applause] That's a good comment.

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Why don't you come on up?

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We'll have a picture with the board.

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>> We now move to item number four.

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Conduct first hearing on an Ordinance adding Chapter 10.33

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to Title 10 of the Fresno Ordinance Code,

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relating to Real Property Fraud Prevention Notices;

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waive reading of Ordinance in its entirety;

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and set the second hearing for September 8, 2026;

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designate Counsel to prepare a fair and adequate summary

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of the proposed Ordinance; and direct the of the Board to post

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and publish the required summary in accordance with Government

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section 25124(b)(1)

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>> I will turn this over to Supervisor Mendez.

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>> Good morning Mr. Chairman and board members.

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It's a good day to be alive.

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Mr. Chairman, I respectfully request your approval

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of an ordinance that will give property

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owners a new voluntary tool to help prevent a real estate

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fraud.

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The current property owners protection

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that we're just Getting is a POPA.

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An alert over 4500 people have already signed.

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They gave us their email, anything

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that happens on the property.

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They get an automatic email.

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The current Property owners -- it takes about $143,000 in legal

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fees to undo one of those illegally placed mortgage

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on your property.

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If the mortgage sales in the secondary market, forget it.

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So this ordinance that you're about to approve

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takes the next step by creating a low cost prevention tool.

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It puts on notice the title companies, escrow holders,

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Lenders and other parties before fraud can take place.

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It does not stop legitimate sales or loans.

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It provides an added type of protection against fraud

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and most importantly, it helps protect the property

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rights of our residents.

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For these reasons, I respectfully

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ask that you approve this ordinance.

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And I'm open for questions.

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>> Thank you.

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Supervisors?

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>> This is like you have different services, LifeLock.

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This is going beyond that and actually

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have the county actually put something on your deed

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where you can voluntarily take it off.

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If you sell the property, then you sign it off.

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You will know immediately if somebody

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is trying to do something on your property.

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>> This will be the first in the state of California.

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I would like to turn this presentation over

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to our consultant, David Fleck, Esquire of mannequin.

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He helped us draft the proposed notice of restriction to prevent

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fraud and identity theft.

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Here he is.

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Mr. Fleck. >> This guy can definitely explain it better.

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>> Thank you, Mr. Diktose.

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Thank you.

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Good morning, chairman, supervisors.

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Why me?

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Why am I here?

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I didn't go to law school to become an expert on deed fraud.

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But as with everybody, your career

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takes twists and turns you don't expect.

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I remember the day I was handed my first deed fraud

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case when I was a deputy district

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attorney in L.A. County.

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It was in 2003.

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And by 2008, I was standing in front of the state Assembly

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committee, moving forward some legislation

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to help prevent fraud.

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I have spent my career focused on this issue.

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I probably have represented more victims of fraud

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than any attorney in the country.

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There's no way to verify that.

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I pretty much know everybody involved.

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I definitely have spent more years

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thinking about this problem than anybody out there.

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That's why I'm here today to talk.

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Can we move to the next slide?

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What is fraud?

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Deed fraud is identity theft.

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It's a certain kind of identity theft.

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Identity theft is impersonating somebody else

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to get something you're not entitled to.

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And in this case, people are trying to steal money

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using the real estate system.

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Impersonate somebody else, homeowner, property owner.

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They might impersonate a notary.

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They get control of that property with a forged deed.

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And with that they may take out a mortgage against the property.

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Disappear into the wind.

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They might sell the property to an unsuspecting third party.

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Some of them will even put a tenant in

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and collect the rent until somebody figures

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out what's going on.

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I know one character in the Antelope

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Valley, who has been doing that for at least eight years.

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Just collecting the rent on five properties

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that were taken through fraud.

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That's what Deed fraud is.

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Next slide.

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A typical victims are properties owners

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of vacant properties, owners of second homes

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where nobody's paying attention on a day to day,

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nobody's watching the property on a regular basis.

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And elderly folks.

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Some elderly folks, not everybody, but life

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gets a little bit hectic and hard for them to manage,

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and so they're easy to take advantage in some cases.

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The targets are properties that are easy to do this.

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That's the key.

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They want to focus on a property where they

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can get in and get out quickly.

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Typically there's a two week escrow.

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Get in and get out, and move on.

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That's the trick they're looking for.

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This proposal, The real property fraud prevention notice.

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It is a notice that a property owner can record.

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It would be if they can pass it.

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They record that request that certain things be done.

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Before the property is sold, mortgaged

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or otherwise encumbered, they are requesting

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that certain things be done.

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It's not an order.

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It's not a mandate.

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They're requesting that their identity be validated

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and verified by a notary who has been vetted by a qualified title

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company, and a qualified title company as defined

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in the ordinance just as the title company that's

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authorized to do business in California, basically.

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And a thumbprint be taken in the Notary Journal.

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The second thing that it requests

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is that any proceeds that come out of a transaction,

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whether it's a mortgage or a sale,

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that it be disbursed only through an account

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independently verified by that qualified title company.

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That all the documents are handled by the qualified title

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company.

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And that once again, the second verification

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is made before closing using the information that that person

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or homeowner has provided previously to verify

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they are who they are.

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How does that work?

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In practice, what they would do as a homeowner would say,

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I'm worried about fraud.

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They would select a title company or a lawyer

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or some other trusted person to deposit their contact

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information.

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They would fill out this form and on it, they only

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put under the name of the company or lawyer or person

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or entity that's holding their contact information.

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That's the contact information.

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A separate part of anything that happens in the transaction.

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Because of the transaction documents are fraudulent,

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then the contact information is fraudulent.

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This is putting their contact information

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with a trusted third party that has to be verified

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during the transaction.

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So we call it a tripwire.

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In this situation, what would happen

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is before a fraudster could do-- recorded fraudulent deed,

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the qualified title company would then

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have to verify the identity.

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Contact the true owner through that third person

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to verify that this is something that they want to do.

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Go ahead, next slide.

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It says very specifically in the proposed ordinance

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and in the notice itself, this is not

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a lien, not an encumbrance.

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Not any cloud entitled, it's not a restraint on alienation.

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It is a request.

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It's a request by the true owner to follow

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these steps if something's going to happen

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to the title of that house.

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It doesn't add any new cost other

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than the standard recording costs authorized by law.

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Let me just say before I wrap up,

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because I'm interested in deed fraud.

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I've been living for over 20 years.

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I pay attention to what's going on around the country.

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What types of ordinances and laws

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are being implemented in the country.

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And most of them are window dressing.

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Most of them are not that effective.

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And when I first heard about this, I thought,

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is this another one of those things

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that's just window dressing?

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But it is definitely not.

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This adds another layer of protection,

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because these fraudsters are looking for the easy job.

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This adds a layer of protection that makes

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it very difficult to overcome.

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This will protect elderly homeowners from predators.

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It will protect owners of vacant properties

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from overseas fraudsters.

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It will protect title insurance companies

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from fraud based claims.

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I think that this particular notice will

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be adopted across the country.

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It's powerful.

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It's a way for homeowners and property owners

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to inoculate themselves against deed fraud.

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Thank >> Any comments or questions?

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>> I think people need to realize that your property

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and what's recorded is a public document.

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Anybody can go to the recorder's office

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and look it up and see exactly what the encumbrances are on it.

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And like he's pointing out, this makes

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it harder because when they do a preliminary title report,

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it'll come up that this is on its.

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So they know it's not going to be that easy to just start

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filing frauds on papers to put a mortgage on it

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or try to steal it.

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>> Exactly.

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>> It's pretty simple.

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And I don't know why other counties haven't done this.

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We talked about it, but I think everybody's waiting for somebody

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to jump first.

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And I think we need to do this.

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I think there will be other counties

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that once they see how we did it, will copy how we did it.

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And like he's talking about, it's basically against people

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that their mortgage is paid off, or they

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have very little mortgage.

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They have a second house.

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Could be up at Shaver or Huntington.

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And they'll do a title report, and find that there's

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no encumbrance against it.

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And if you don't have some kind of protection,

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and they can go through the process of actually borrowing

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money against it.

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>> It's the easiest way for a fraudster to steal hundreds

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of thousands of dollars.

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>> And this is a volunteer program.

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>> Voluntary.

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>> Any questions?

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Comments or questions from the public?

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I appreciate you bringing this forward.

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And I appreciate you being here today.

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Is there a motion and a second?

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All those in favor, say aye.

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>> We now move to item number five.

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Receive presentation from AP Triton regarding the findings

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and recommendations of its Community Risk Assessment

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and Standards of Cover Deployment

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Analysis for the Fresno County Fire Protection District

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.

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>> Good morning.

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I'll say a few introductory comments

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before we begin this presentation.

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I remember a number of years ago when I was still

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fairly new in this role, that I had

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a conversation with our Fresno County Fire Chief Dustin Hill

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who is in the audience.

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Who is also fairly new in his role.

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And he asked me a question.

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The question was, what level of fire protection

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do we want to see in Fresno County?

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And that is a question that every resident in our community

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who is threatened by wildfire in any way

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would have an easy answer to when we're

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looking at our community and how fire protection works,

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we realize we need to look at this question on a broader

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scale.

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It asks, is it positioned, not just now but into the future

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to serve as?

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And I think as you read this report,

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you'll say the answer is both encouraging

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with the partnerships, but there's also some challenges

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and appreciate what has been put into this report.

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Before we go forward, I will turn it over

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to Amy Rice, who is the analyst in our office

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who worked with a team on this project and go from there.

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>> Thank you.

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Chairman, board members, Amy rice

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with the administrative office.

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I am joined today by Mike Despain, CEO of AP Triton, who

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conducted the standards of cover and community risk assessment

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for the Fire Protection District.

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I want to make a note that Kevin Taylor was the original project

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manager who was supposed to be present today,

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but due to some travel issues, he wasn't able to make it.

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Mr. Despain mentioned that there are

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a lot of details in that almost 300 page report that you have.

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But Mr. Despain is just going to cover the findings

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and recommendations today.

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And following the presentation will

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be available for any questions you may have.

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>> Thank you for the opportunity to present today.

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Kevin couldn't make it, you get me and I live down the street.

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It's a pretty easy travel.

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My name is Mike Despain with AP Trident.

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About 40 years in the fire service.

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Fire Chief and Fire officer for many agencies in California,

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Washington and Nebraska, but most notably

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City of Fresno and City of Clovis.

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This is my backyard.

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I was watching this report throughout as it went through.

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I'm pleased to be able to present this today.

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I'm going to rush through it pretty quick,

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but we can always stop with questions if we need.

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I have to start off with a special thanks

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to Amy Ryles, your principal administrative analyst

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from the CEO's office.

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Chief Dustin Hill and Deputy Fire Chief Ryan

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Michaels for their efforts.

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If we don't have good partnership,

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it's hard to get good data and collection together

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for this study.

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We'll jump into it.

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AP Triton was commissioned to conduct this community risk

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assessment standard of cover and deployment analysis

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for Fresno County Fire Protection District.

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In addition to your normal CRA SoC that we would do,

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they also asked for operational performance

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and an independent look at the independent volunteer fire

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system, county contracts and alternative fire service

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delivery models.

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The purpose of this study is to evaluate current system

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performance, identify operational and organizational

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challenges.

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Assess community risk and provide

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strategic recommendations for moving forward.

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Fresno County is one of the more complex ,

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operationally one of the more complex organizations

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in California.

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Is probably the second most complex I've seen in my years.

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The county includes such diverse areas such as urban fringe

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areas, rural agricultural communities, mountain

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communities, remote region, limited infrastructure,

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significant wildland and this is all stuff

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that you know as supervisors.

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That service is delivered through a complex set

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of whereas most complex counties might

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have a simplified system here.

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You have this plethora of agencies including

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the combination of Fresno County Fire Protection District

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and volunteer fire departments and county contracts

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and automatic aid systems pure regional and rural partnerships

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in all of this together is how you formed the organization so

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far.

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So as we go into our recommendations

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here, let me make sure got right one here.

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As we look at the recommended response and standards,

533
00:28:56,465 --> 00:29:02,271
this one has to do with just as Mr. Merlin had said,

534
00:29:02,271 --> 00:29:04,876
everybody asks what level of service you want,

535
00:29:04,876 --> 00:29:07,273
and we would say the fire service is like a menu.

536
00:29:07,273 --> 00:29:09,357
It depends on what the community wants.

537
00:29:09,357 --> 00:29:11,632
Some people want higher level service,

538
00:29:11,632 --> 00:29:15,860
and everybody wants the highest level.

539
00:29:15,860 --> 00:29:16,680
You have to pay for it.

540
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,605
The goal is to get the best service

541
00:29:18,605 --> 00:29:21,415
possible for the community with the money that's available.

542
00:29:21,415 --> 00:29:24,831
Part of that is to look at the community's desired

543
00:29:24,831 --> 00:29:26,831
level of service.

544
00:29:27,409 --> 00:29:28,784
And that's a policy decision here

545
00:29:28,784 --> 00:29:34,184
even though we're going to cite some national standards,

546
00:29:34,962 --> 00:29:37,965
it's a local decision on what that service level looks like.

547
00:29:37,965 --> 00:29:43,365
And that has to do with local expectations, risk tolerance,

548
00:29:43,365 --> 00:29:47,155
available financial resources and local community conditions.

549
00:29:47,155 --> 00:29:49,898
Part of the process that we look at

550
00:29:49,898 --> 00:29:53,605
is some national standards and recommendations to look at.

551
00:29:53,605 --> 00:29:56,730
The requirement is not necessarily meet them.

552
00:29:56,730 --> 00:30:01,598
Is to use them as the North Star, in the direction.

553
00:30:01,598 --> 00:30:04,831
Performance goals, these are broken down into what we think

554
00:30:04,831 --> 00:30:08,445
is initial and short term, mid term or longer term.

555
00:30:08,445 --> 00:30:11,861
One of the first recommendations we have

556
00:30:11,861 --> 00:30:15,911
is to establish some benchmark performance standards.

557
00:30:15,911 --> 00:30:18,245
These are just examples of how we

558
00:30:18,245 --> 00:30:22,445
would break that different elements of that,

559
00:30:23,391 --> 00:30:26,245
because the reality is the only time that matters is you

560
00:30:26,245 --> 00:30:28,933
notice an emergency, you dial number one,

561
00:30:28,933 --> 00:30:32,205
and when somebody shows up to say, I'm here to help.

562
00:30:32,205 --> 00:30:34,273
The community cares about that, we

563
00:30:34,273 --> 00:30:35,981
have to break it up into smaller segments

564
00:30:35,981 --> 00:30:38,189
to see where we can put efforts to make improvements.

565
00:30:38,189 --> 00:30:40,178
These are just examples that we would look at.

566
00:30:40,178 --> 00:30:43,165
And these are not necessarily benchmarks you

567
00:30:43,165 --> 00:30:44,253
have to keep forever.

568
00:30:44,253 --> 00:30:45,618
They might change over time.

569
00:30:45,618 --> 00:30:49,805
A good example of a turnout time.

570
00:30:49,805 --> 00:30:53,290
That has a lot to do with station design

571
00:30:53,290 --> 00:30:55,126
and how it's configured.

572
00:30:55,126 --> 00:31:02,326
How far away you are from the living quarters in the fire

573
00:31:03,104 --> 00:31:04,137
apparatus.

574
00:31:04,137 --> 00:31:06,978
New stations remodels can change that and improve that over time,

575
00:31:06,978 --> 00:31:09,850
so those numbers can get improved over time.

576
00:31:09,850 --> 00:31:12,425
But we have to have a baseline to start measuring.

577
00:31:12,425 --> 00:31:14,135
Our recommended short term strategies.

578
00:31:14,135 --> 00:31:15,761
There's a couple here.

579
00:31:15,761 --> 00:31:19,755
One is including the fire chief and the county executive team,

580
00:31:19,755 --> 00:31:22,247
Fresno County should consider establishing a county fire

581
00:31:22,247 --> 00:31:23,705
emergency services chief's position

582
00:31:23,705 --> 00:31:26,485
that reports to the County Administrator office.

583
00:31:26,485 --> 00:31:30,285
This position would provide central executive oversight

584
00:31:30,285 --> 00:31:33,485
for county wide fire protection emergency medical service

585
00:31:33,485 --> 00:31:35,885
coordination, emergency management, disaster

586
00:31:36,885 --> 00:31:40,485
preparedness, volunteer fire system support, interagency

587
00:31:42,245 --> 00:31:46,334
coordination, this role would function as a senior level

588
00:31:46,334 --> 00:31:48,751
advisor to the county leadership while improving alignment

589
00:31:48,751 --> 00:31:51,945
between the emergency service operations, county priorities

590
00:31:51,945 --> 00:31:56,450
and budget development, long term risk reduction strategies.

591
00:31:56,450 --> 00:31:59,831
The position would not replace existing operational leadership

592
00:31:59,831 --> 00:32:02,745
within Fresno County Fire Protection,

593
00:32:02,745 --> 00:32:05,745
or independent agencies that would

594
00:32:06,185 --> 00:32:10,871
serve as coordinator authority focus on county wide policy,

595
00:32:10,871 --> 00:32:13,735
emergency management integration, and system

596
00:32:13,735 --> 00:32:15,735
wide performance improvement.

597
00:32:16,725 --> 00:32:19,125
Responsibilities could include oversight

598
00:32:21,765 --> 00:32:24,165
of emergency preparedness initiatives,

599
00:32:24,925 --> 00:32:29,850
coordinating with volunteers, special district fire agencies,

600
00:32:29,850 --> 00:32:31,205
grant administration standards development,

601
00:32:31,205 --> 00:32:32,497
and the list goes on.

602
00:32:32,497 --> 00:32:34,622
The outcome of that would be improved coordination,

603
00:32:34,622 --> 00:32:37,205
especially with your volunteer fire

604
00:32:37,205 --> 00:32:40,458
departments, especially districts in your partner

605
00:32:40,458 --> 00:32:40,958
agencies.

606
00:32:40,958 --> 00:32:43,365
Enhanced oversight of emergency management,

607
00:32:43,365 --> 00:32:48,765
disaster planning and -- improve the opportunity for economic

608
00:32:56,205 --> 00:32:58,205
grants.

609
00:32:59,805 --> 00:33:01,999
The cost of this is not.

610
00:33:01,999 --> 00:33:03,728
The system is already in place.

611
00:33:03,728 --> 00:33:05,145
It's more of a recommendation that

612
00:33:05,145 --> 00:33:07,100
formalizes the position within your structure for reporting.

613
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:08,278
No cost for that one.

614
00:33:08,278 --> 00:33:09,945
Number two is considered the development

615
00:33:09,945 --> 00:33:13,938
of a consolidated fire emergency services agreement

616
00:33:13,938 --> 00:33:16,157
under centralized executive leadership.

617
00:33:16,157 --> 00:33:18,240
Right now you have multiple agreements.

618
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,725
Sometimes they can get a little bit in conflict

619
00:33:20,725 --> 00:33:22,205
or there's some confusion.

620
00:33:22,205 --> 00:33:24,814
They have different timing on when they expire

621
00:33:24,814 --> 00:33:26,397
and when they need to be renegotiated.

622
00:33:26,397 --> 00:33:30,597
And by having a centralized coordinated agreement,

623
00:33:30,966 --> 00:33:35,228
then all of the items can be discussed at once in continuity

624
00:33:35,228 --> 00:33:38,375
with the other agreements that may be in conflict.

625
00:33:38,375 --> 00:33:41,705
And definitely would speed up things

626
00:33:41,705 --> 00:33:45,765
in terms of time and limit some liability.

627
00:33:45,765 --> 00:33:49,565
It would also improve things like community risk reduction,

628
00:33:49,565 --> 00:33:53,765
allow for better prevention, public education requirements,

629
00:33:56,114 --> 00:33:59,500
staffing expectations, data reporting, performance

630
00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:01,885
measurement, capital planning such as apparatus and facility

631
00:34:01,885 --> 00:34:02,575
maintenance.

632
00:34:02,575 --> 00:34:05,551
The primary cost of this would just

633
00:34:05,551 --> 00:34:07,791
be staff time associated with policy development

634
00:34:07,791 --> 00:34:12,471
and stakeholder coordination, legal review and some training

635
00:34:12,471 --> 00:34:14,471
implementation.

636
00:34:15,405 --> 00:34:19,245
And three is developed countywide volunteer fire

637
00:34:19,245 --> 00:34:21,205
service standards and performance guidelines.

638
00:34:21,205 --> 00:34:24,698
So Fresno County in coordination with Fresno County Fire

639
00:34:24,698 --> 00:34:26,365
Protection District and volunteer agency

640
00:34:26,365 --> 00:34:28,125
should develop a standardized emergency

641
00:34:28,125 --> 00:34:30,985
County wide operational guidelines, establishing

642
00:34:30,985 --> 00:34:33,925
minimum expectations for training, incident command

643
00:34:33,925 --> 00:34:37,525
documentation, apparatus readiness, reporting mutual aid

644
00:34:39,208 --> 00:34:41,125
participation and firefighter safety practices

645
00:34:41,125 --> 00:34:43,685
the standards should be scalable to the capabilities

646
00:34:43,685 --> 00:34:47,885
while improving system wide consistency and operability.

647
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:52,805
This should establish a common operational expectation

648
00:34:52,805 --> 00:34:55,205
that would improve coordination between all the agencies

649
00:34:55,205 --> 00:34:58,645
enhanced firefighter safety, reduce variability and service

650
00:34:58,645 --> 00:35:00,645
delivery, and strengthen accountability

651
00:35:00,645 --> 00:35:03,450
across that volunteer system.

652
00:35:03,225 --> 00:35:07,525
The primary cost of this would be staff time associated

653
00:35:07,525 --> 00:35:10,525
with policy developments, stakeholder coordination,

654
00:35:13,133 --> 00:35:15,925
legal review, training and implementation.

655
00:35:15,925 --> 00:35:19,425
There may be minor ongoing costs depending on tracking and policy

656
00:35:19,425 --> 00:35:19,925
updates.

657
00:35:19,925 --> 00:35:23,949
We would say that if you look at instances of firefighter injury

658
00:35:23,949 --> 00:35:26,129
and death, the vast majority of them

659
00:35:26,129 --> 00:35:27,997
are within the volunteer community.

660
00:35:27,997 --> 00:35:29,805
So we have a little bit of an obligation

661
00:35:29,805 --> 00:35:31,965
to make sure that we're keeping an eye on that.

662
00:35:31,965 --> 00:35:35,565
Next recommendation is expand volunteer recruitment

663
00:35:35,818 --> 00:35:37,850
and retention programs.

664
00:35:37,850 --> 00:35:40,191
There's a number of ways that that can be done.

665
00:35:40,191 --> 00:35:44,119
There's a number of practices that the agency could look at.

666
00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:47,125
So we are not recommending any particular one, but as

667
00:35:47,125 --> 00:35:49,415
an example the program could evaluate incentives

668
00:35:49,415 --> 00:35:53,351
such as stipends, training reimbursement, and resistance.

669
00:35:53,351 --> 00:35:55,345
Assistance tax incentives.

670
00:35:55,345 --> 00:35:58,435
Flexibility in the training delivery models

671
00:35:58,435 --> 00:36:02,485
peer housing partnerships and expanding outreach campaigns.

672
00:36:02,485 --> 00:36:06,850
And volunteers is a dying breed.

673
00:36:06,325 --> 00:36:10,965
It's a little harder to recruit and retain.

674
00:36:10,965 --> 00:36:13,965
Established next recommendation to establish

675
00:36:14,350 --> 00:36:16,584
a regional Volunteers training and compliance program,

676
00:36:16,584 --> 00:36:19,500
and that is where the Fresno County Fire Protection

677
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:21,865
District would establish a Central Regional training

678
00:36:21,865 --> 00:36:26,665
and compliance support program for those volunteer agencies.

679
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:33,845
The program would include coordinated training, delivery

680
00:36:33,845 --> 00:36:37,445
records, management assistance, annual compliance tracking,

681
00:36:38,225 --> 00:36:40,625
respiratory protection support apparatus.

682
00:36:41,645 --> 00:36:44,645
Testing and coordination and standardized documentation

683
00:36:44,645 --> 00:36:51,245
practices aligned with Cal OSHA or with OSHA Cal, and National

684
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,135
Wildfire Coordination Group and National Fire Protection.

685
00:36:59,135 --> 00:37:00,965
The cost is moderate.

686
00:37:00,965 --> 00:37:04,658
The cost associated with training, coordinating software,

687
00:37:04,658 --> 00:37:08,710
system instructors staffing and records management

688
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:10,735
and compliance, administration and grant funding.

689
00:37:10,735 --> 00:37:13,500
By coordinating this, there is some grant funding

690
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:15,458
that may be able to offset some of these costs.

691
00:37:15,458 --> 00:37:17,765
And then the recommendation is to adopt

692
00:37:17,765 --> 00:37:19,825
applicable operational deployment standards

693
00:37:19,825 --> 00:37:21,825
from NFPA 1750.

694
00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:27,508
And that address is rural agencies and urban settings

695
00:37:27,508 --> 00:37:28,800
also.

696
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,350
Our recommendations is that the agency used that as a benchmark,

697
00:37:31,350 --> 00:37:33,917
but refined that actual performance to meet

698
00:37:33,917 --> 00:37:35,349
the needs of the community.

699
00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:37,105
Part of the reason why establishing those benchmarks

700
00:37:37,105 --> 00:37:38,929
are important is because if I move into the community,

701
00:37:38,929 --> 00:37:41,133
I may have a certain expectation that that service

702
00:37:41,133 --> 00:37:44,510
level and that zone is not going to meet by having a documented,

703
00:37:44,510 --> 00:37:46,365
then everybody knows what the rules are when

704
00:37:46,365 --> 00:37:47,845
you move into the community.

705
00:37:47,845 --> 00:37:52,445
Estimated cost to implement this moderate, ongoing costs

706
00:37:52,445 --> 00:37:55,445
associated with policy development, training

707
00:37:55,445 --> 00:37:59,450
operational, data collection, staffing evaluations and this

708
00:37:59,450 --> 00:37:59,978
could be phased in.

709
00:37:59,978 --> 00:38:02,173
This is not an overnight change.

710
00:38:02,173 --> 00:38:05,385
Next one is minimum administrative and reporting

711
00:38:05,385 --> 00:38:07,725
standards for volunteer agencies.

712
00:38:07,725 --> 00:38:10,871
Fresno County and Fresno County Fire Protection District

713
00:38:10,871 --> 00:38:12,925
should establish minimum administrative reporting

714
00:38:12,925 --> 00:38:15,785
requirements for volunteer agencies receiving

715
00:38:15,785 --> 00:38:18,591
funding or operational support from the county.

716
00:38:18,591 --> 00:38:20,525
And reporting standards should include

717
00:38:20,525 --> 00:38:24,125
annual financial reporting training records, apparatus

718
00:38:25,965 --> 00:38:28,965
maintenance documentation, incident reporting, compliance

719
00:38:29,285 --> 00:38:30,725
and insurance verification.

720
00:38:30,725 --> 00:38:34,203
The cost of this is low, moderate administrative costs

721
00:38:34,203 --> 00:38:36,495
associated with the reporting system training oversight

722
00:38:36,495 --> 00:38:38,895
and compliance and monitoring.

723
00:38:39,205 --> 00:38:41,642
An ongoing, this is number eight.

724
00:38:41,642 --> 00:38:43,475
Conduct a county wide risk management review

725
00:38:43,475 --> 00:38:45,498
of volunteer fire departments insurance coverage

726
00:38:45,498 --> 00:38:47,450
and liability.

727
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:51,245
Fresno County in coordination with County Council

728
00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:54,845
and applicable fire service stakeholders

729
00:38:54,845 --> 00:38:58,953
to conduct a comprehensive evaluation of insurance

730
00:38:58,953 --> 00:39:02,511
coverage, liability protection and risk exposure associated

731
00:39:02,511 --> 00:39:06,111
with volunteer fire departments, operating within

732
00:39:06,802 --> 00:39:08,885
or supporting emergency response in Fresno County.

733
00:39:08,885 --> 00:39:14,285
This is to ensure there's a bit of-- forgive

734
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,550
the term, the firewall between what we're allowing an agency

735
00:39:17,550 --> 00:39:18,985
to do that may not be properly insured.

736
00:39:18,985 --> 00:39:24,645
And if something goes wrong, that could come to the county.

737
00:39:24,645 --> 00:39:27,355
This model should include but not

738
00:39:27,355 --> 00:39:29,938
be limited to general liability coverage, workers compensation

739
00:39:29,938 --> 00:39:32,485
or equivalent volunteer injury protections,

740
00:39:32,485 --> 00:39:36,850
vehicle and apparatus insurance, property equipment,

741
00:39:37,450 --> 00:39:40,450
coverage director, officers liability insurance

742
00:39:40,980 --> 00:39:44,898
where applicable, accident and injury coverage for volunteer

743
00:39:47,365 --> 00:39:50,165
personnel and coverage for training activities, emergency

744
00:39:50,165 --> 00:39:54,365
response operations, mutual aid, automatic aid liability

745
00:39:55,365 --> 00:39:57,305
implications and then coverage gaps

746
00:39:57,305 --> 00:39:59,836
associated with the informal volunteer organizations.

747
00:39:59,836 --> 00:40:02,310
Then we're going to strengthen the regional system

748
00:40:02,310 --> 00:40:05,310
of coordination, interagency performance accountability.

749
00:40:05,125 --> 00:40:09,325
So Fresno County protection district, Cal fire

750
00:40:10,805 --> 00:40:12,545
and participating volunteer agencies

751
00:40:12,545 --> 00:40:15,965
should formalize a county wide regional coordination framework

752
00:40:15,965 --> 00:40:18,365
establishing consistent operational expectations,

753
00:40:21,345 --> 00:40:24,945
performance measures, reporting standards, automatic aid

754
00:40:25,645 --> 00:40:28,500
protocols and governance coordination processes.

755
00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:31,111
The framework should include regular interagency review

756
00:40:31,111 --> 00:40:33,511
meetings, system performance monitoring,

757
00:40:33,725 --> 00:40:36,253
standardized reporting metrics and evaluation

758
00:40:36,253 --> 00:40:38,875
of mutual aid and contract service agreements.

759
00:40:38,875 --> 00:40:41,678
The outcome of this is a enhanced regional coordination

760
00:40:41,678 --> 00:40:43,345
and accountability for the whole county,

761
00:40:43,345 --> 00:40:46,149
and better efficiency, better safety.

762
00:40:46,149 --> 00:40:48,629
On the data systems would also allow

763
00:40:48,629 --> 00:40:51,701
you to understand better when changes are occurring out

764
00:40:51,701 --> 00:40:54,101
in the deployment environment.

765
00:40:55,245 --> 00:40:58,958
Recommendation number ten, the last one for this one

766
00:40:58,958 --> 00:41:03,525
is transfer emergency management functions to the Fresno County

767
00:41:03,525 --> 00:41:04,925
Fire Protection District.

768
00:41:04,925 --> 00:41:06,951
Fresno County should evaluate transitioning

769
00:41:06,951 --> 00:41:10,938
the county's emergency manager position and Primary Emergency

770
00:41:10,938 --> 00:41:13,105
management coordination responsibilities from Public

771
00:41:13,105 --> 00:41:15,751
Health Department to the Fresno County Fire Protection District.

772
00:41:15,751 --> 00:41:18,100
The transition should include organizational alignment

773
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:21,100
of emergency preparedness response coordination,

774
00:41:21,391 --> 00:41:25,591
the Emergency Operations Center, support disaster planning,

775
00:41:28,758 --> 00:41:31,115
training and exercises and interagency coordination

776
00:41:31,115 --> 00:41:33,365
function under the county's primary Emergency Response

777
00:41:33,365 --> 00:41:33,945
Agency.

778
00:41:33,945 --> 00:41:36,325
The transition plan should include

779
00:41:36,325 --> 00:41:38,725
defined roles and responsibilities,

780
00:41:39,765 --> 00:41:43,100
reporting and coordination expectations with public health

781
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:45,745
and other county departments to maintain continuity

782
00:41:45,745 --> 00:41:49,945
of public health, emergency planning and disaster

783
00:41:50,285 --> 00:41:52,685
coordination activities and by aligning

784
00:41:52,685 --> 00:41:54,258
this management within Fresno County

785
00:41:54,258 --> 00:41:56,591
could improve integration between emergency preparedness

786
00:41:56,591 --> 00:41:58,245
and operational response functions,

787
00:41:58,245 --> 00:42:00,295
strengthen incident management coordination

788
00:42:00,295 --> 00:42:02,978
and enhance EOC activation capabilities

789
00:42:02,978 --> 00:42:05,325
and improve continuity between day

790
00:42:05,325 --> 00:42:08,405
to day emergency response operations and large scale

791
00:42:08,405 --> 00:42:09,985
disaster management.

792
00:42:09,985 --> 00:42:13,845
It would also help better align emergency management oversight

793
00:42:13,845 --> 00:42:18,645
with counties primary fire rescue EMS hazardous materials,

794
00:42:20,645 --> 00:42:23,645
improving operational coordination between emergencies

795
00:42:24,231 --> 00:42:25,189
and disasters.

796
00:42:25,189 --> 00:42:29,431
The cost of this administrative and organizational transition

797
00:42:29,431 --> 00:42:32,285
will cost associated with personal reassignment policy

798
00:42:32,285 --> 00:42:35,885
updates, budget transfers and technology integration.

799
00:42:43,868 --> 00:42:46,410
>> Mike, I know our board has had an opportunity to read this

800
00:42:46,410 --> 00:42:46,815
report in detail.

801
00:42:46,815 --> 00:42:48,445
I know they may have some questions.

802
00:42:48,445 --> 00:42:51,360
What I suggest is maybe at this point,

803
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,611
we allow some time for the board to ask

804
00:42:53,611 --> 00:42:56,280
questions they've had the chance to review this in detail.

805
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,228
With that, we're gonna ask some questions.

806
00:43:04,507 --> 00:43:06,507
>> Board?

807
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:10,297
>> Mr. Dispain, it's good to see you.

808
00:43:10,297 --> 00:43:12,380
It's interesting because I think 26 years ago when

809
00:43:12,380 --> 00:43:14,645
we were meeting together, we were looking

810
00:43:14,645 --> 00:43:19,445
for response times of five minutes or less,

811
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:22,346
I want to say 90% of the time.

812
00:43:22,346 --> 00:43:24,285
And staffing standards were different in a city

813
00:43:24,285 --> 00:43:24,827
jurisdiction.

814
00:43:24,827 --> 00:43:29,258
Some of the benefits of getting fire departments

815
00:43:29,258 --> 00:43:32,945
to providing higher levels of service was lowering insurance.

816
00:43:32,945 --> 00:43:36,725
So a question I have looking at some of these recommendations

817
00:43:36,725 --> 00:43:38,546
that you have for us.

818
00:43:38,546 --> 00:43:41,621
I know some of the short term recommendations of just getting

819
00:43:41,621 --> 00:43:44,621
apparatus out to calls sooner.

820
00:43:44,971 --> 00:43:51,645
By doing any of that, do you see opportunities for fire insurance

821
00:43:51,645 --> 00:43:54,818
that people have in their homes being reduced a little bit?

822
00:43:54,818 --> 00:43:58,325
And if there is, can you talk briefly about that?

823
00:43:58,325 --> 00:44:02,607
>> That's a complex issue here I'll make it simple.

824
00:44:02,607 --> 00:44:04,872
The answer is yes, it could.

825
00:44:04,872 --> 00:44:05,690
It depends.

826
00:44:05,690 --> 00:44:07,812
There's a change in the industry,

827
00:44:07,812 --> 00:44:10,796
and the industry is going away from a locked and loaded

828
00:44:10,796 --> 00:44:13,773
readiness model to, what is your outcome?

829
00:44:13,773 --> 00:44:17,205
How often did you stop a fire at Room of Origin?

830
00:44:17,205 --> 00:44:18,557
What was the actual fire loss?

831
00:44:18,557 --> 00:44:20,265
What are you doing in terms of prevention

832
00:44:20,265 --> 00:44:21,965
to help prevent the fire?

833
00:44:21,965 --> 00:44:27,109
So that there's not one to happen to begin with.

834
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:29,477
And every insurance policy has their own rules

835
00:44:29,477 --> 00:44:32,213
and where their jurisdiction is, where their boundaries are.

836
00:44:32,213 --> 00:44:34,668
Some of them match zip codes, some of them don't.

837
00:44:34,668 --> 00:44:36,335
So number one is you have to shop around

838
00:44:36,335 --> 00:44:39,165
to find out what the best option is for you.

839
00:44:39,165 --> 00:44:42,245
In this case, absolutely many of the items

840
00:44:42,245 --> 00:44:45,965
that are in here, including these last few where we talked

841
00:44:45,965 --> 00:44:48,109
about community risk reduction, is

842
00:44:48,109 --> 00:44:52,525
putting a little less emphasis on the operational response,

843
00:44:52,525 --> 00:44:56,125
and a little bit more on the preventive fire or emergency

844
00:44:56,125 --> 00:44:57,578
from happening to begin with.

845
00:44:57,578 --> 00:44:58,815
That's the biggest way.

846
00:44:58,815 --> 00:45:02,477
It's actually the cheapest way to provide

847
00:45:02,477 --> 00:45:05,573
the service and the biggest move in insurance, because the fire

848
00:45:05,573 --> 00:45:07,158
that you don't have, and you don't

849
00:45:07,158 --> 00:45:10,298
have a claim, that helps you and your policy,

850
00:45:10,298 --> 00:45:11,998
but it's also a regional one.

851
00:45:11,998 --> 00:45:13,975
You can think my house is safe.

852
00:45:13,975 --> 00:45:16,285
All the fires are in another area of jurisdiction.

853
00:45:16,285 --> 00:45:18,461
You're still gonna pay that, depending

854
00:45:18,461 --> 00:45:23,205
on where that geography counts you into that.

855
00:45:23,205 --> 00:45:25,605
>> Basically reduce the risk.

856
00:45:31,247 --> 00:45:33,247
>> Any other?

857
00:45:36,596 --> 00:45:38,130
>> Thank you for the presentation.

858
00:45:38,130 --> 00:45:40,428
Our CEO did read the presentation.

859
00:45:40,428 --> 00:45:42,511
Appreciate the work that you and your partner did.

860
00:45:42,511 --> 00:45:46,645
I think I met with supervisor a while back.

861
00:45:46,645 --> 00:45:48,733
I also appreciated Chief Hale's crash course

862
00:45:48,733 --> 00:45:51,885
on the complexities of fire protection.

863
00:45:51,885 --> 00:45:54,745
We have such a big geographical area.

864
00:45:54,745 --> 00:45:57,925
I've seen it myself in the mountains when there's people

865
00:45:57,925 --> 00:46:03,325
that experience a medical emergency, or a broken foot,

866
00:46:04,796 --> 00:46:07,254
or people that think they can get up to a pin cushion trail

867
00:46:07,254 --> 00:46:09,209
very easily and find out that they can't.

868
00:46:09,209 --> 00:46:11,725
I've seen our folks respond.

869
00:46:11,725 --> 00:46:17,520
Thank you to the fire station 87, and the great work they do.

870
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:22,920
I just have a quick question for you, chief.

871
00:46:25,475 --> 00:46:28,165
We've got a large presentation, a couple of low hanging fruits.

872
00:46:28,165 --> 00:46:30,385
What would you like to see implemented long term

873
00:46:30,385 --> 00:46:31,765
and short term?

874
00:46:31,765 --> 00:46:32,605
>> Thank you.

875
00:46:32,605 --> 00:46:35,893
I think the best method of working in the CEO's office

876
00:46:35,893 --> 00:46:38,895
is looking through the report and recommendations.

877
00:46:38,895 --> 00:46:41,413
We can do a tiered or phased in approach.

878
00:46:41,413 --> 00:46:43,678
I think building the foundational piece

879
00:46:43,678 --> 00:46:46,605
of the training components to compliance, insurance

880
00:46:46,605 --> 00:46:49,188
regulations and making sure that we have the ability

881
00:46:49,188 --> 00:46:51,505
to work within the budgets.

882
00:46:51,505 --> 00:46:54,745
It's always an easy say we need more firefighters,

883
00:46:54,745 --> 00:46:56,245
we need more fire engine.

884
00:46:56,245 --> 00:46:59,290
But if we can build that in as a long term planning tool,

885
00:46:59,290 --> 00:47:01,485
but I think the foundational piece,

886
00:47:01,485 --> 00:47:04,138
we can work with the supervisors individually

887
00:47:04,138 --> 00:47:07,729
and the CEO staff to come up with some key

888
00:47:07,729 --> 00:47:10,129
takeaways from the recommendations,

889
00:47:10,201 --> 00:47:15,601
but I think there's several opportunities that we have

890
00:47:17,211 --> 00:47:22,232
to almost maintain what our current level of funding

891
00:47:22,232 --> 00:47:24,440
is, just to reorganize it within the budget structure

892
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,375
to allow us to hire the bodies to maintain the training,

893
00:47:27,375 --> 00:47:29,375
maintain the efficiencies.

894
00:47:29,686 --> 00:47:34,486
There's lots of little things we can do,

895
00:47:35,531 --> 00:47:37,239
working collectively between the district

896
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,281
Qom County, Cal Fire and our neighboring agencies

897
00:47:39,281 --> 00:47:43,679
that will still be able to provide higher level of service.

898
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:46,950
More operational depth with putting safety and looking

899
00:47:46,950 --> 00:47:50,925
at reducing the liability I think it's the first step.

900
00:47:50,925 --> 00:47:52,925
>> Thank you.

901
00:47:53,201 --> 00:47:55,201
I appreciate it.

902
00:47:55,438 --> 00:47:57,938
The last thing I'll say is, a lot of people don't know this,

903
00:47:57,938 --> 00:48:02,717
but when your phone falls, it sends a distress call.

904
00:48:02,717 --> 00:48:04,378
You've had your folks respond.

905
00:48:04,378 --> 00:48:06,505
If I ever need that, I'm gonna throw my phone

906
00:48:06,505 --> 00:48:08,930
and hope you respond out there.

907
00:48:08,930 --> 00:48:10,930
Thank you.

908
00:48:16,576 --> 00:48:20,176
>> I've got another question for Dustin.

909
00:48:20,478 --> 00:48:23,348
Sorry about that, thank you for the great job and great report.

910
00:48:23,348 --> 00:48:30,548
I see this more of a-- there's so many facets of this.

911
00:48:30,697 --> 00:48:32,155
But coordinating between all units,

912
00:48:32,155 --> 00:48:36,126
meaning some of the volunteer units that are still out there,

913
00:48:36,126 --> 00:48:39,150
and hopefully getting them to the point where

914
00:48:39,150 --> 00:48:46,350
you can have them come to some of-- like the mutual aid

915
00:48:48,311 --> 00:48:50,811
isn't just you going into their jurisdiction to find a fire.

916
00:48:50,811 --> 00:48:52,850
Because I don't know if you have any

917
00:48:52,850 --> 00:48:57,328
that can go into your jurisdiction and help you.

918
00:48:57,328 --> 00:48:59,728
Are you following me?

919
00:49:01,325 --> 00:49:03,325
>> There is some.

920
00:49:11,191 --> 00:49:12,816
>> We don't have the advanced training.

921
00:49:12,816 --> 00:49:16,462
>> So we can reach out and turn the table to where we can

922
00:49:16,462 --> 00:49:19,450
provide the training given the benefits that they need to have

923
00:49:19,450 --> 00:49:24,325
insurance to help minimize the impacts to be able to come

924
00:49:24,325 --> 00:49:25,645
and support the system.

925
00:49:25,645 --> 00:49:30,360
>> The further you get from the metropolitan area,

926
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,360
the more important that becomes.

927
00:49:38,151 --> 00:49:43,551
and I've got Paul, to ask him a question.

928
00:49:44,420 --> 00:49:50,192
Some of the deals, could we do an >> The answer is yes.

929
00:49:50,192 --> 00:49:52,650
I want to thank Kevin Taylor and Mike for his presentation.

930
00:49:52,650 --> 00:49:54,233
I could also say that these are things

931
00:49:54,233 --> 00:49:57,456
that it confirms a lot of things that we have been talking

932
00:49:57,456 --> 00:49:58,456
about for several years.

933
00:49:58,456 --> 00:50:00,325
Now we see it in a document.

934
00:50:00,325 --> 00:50:04,405
And as you've heard it said, if you have no clear goals,

935
00:50:04,405 --> 00:50:05,849
you hit them every time.

936
00:50:05,849 --> 00:50:10,202
This has some goals for us to move forward.

937
00:50:10,202 --> 00:50:16,575
So the next step is coming back with an updated agreement

938
00:50:16,575 --> 00:50:18,682
with the fire district.

939
00:50:18,682 --> 00:50:21,655
There was some board action where we could take some of that

940
00:50:21,655 --> 00:50:23,947
into effect and look at the speed in which we implement

941
00:50:23,947 --> 00:50:24,588
some of these.

942
00:50:24,588 --> 00:50:26,633
There's some we can do, but some we

943
00:50:26,633 --> 00:50:29,145
would need to come back to your board to formally implement

944
00:50:29,145 --> 00:50:34,545
and some we've already started prepping for pending direction

945
00:50:37,308 --> 00:50:39,685
and inputs from your board.

946
00:50:39,685 --> 00:50:41,685
>> Any other comments?

947
00:50:41,765 --> 00:50:43,125
>> Yes.

948
00:50:43,125 --> 00:50:46,415
Dustin, correct me if I'm wrong.

949
00:50:46,415 --> 00:50:48,708
But was it 2019 that the board entered

950
00:50:48,708 --> 00:50:51,500
into an agreement with Cal Fire to provide

951
00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:53,301
some protection in wide areas?

952
00:50:53,301 --> 00:50:55,141
And what we're looking for now is

953
00:50:55,141 --> 00:50:59,100
to substitute that, even though this was a 20 year agreement.

954
00:50:59,100 --> 00:51:00,718
This additional resources that are needed

955
00:51:00,718 --> 00:51:01,705
to provide additional coverage.

956
00:51:01,705 --> 00:51:03,538
If you want to talk a little bit about that,

957
00:51:03,538 --> 00:51:05,525
that would be helpful.

958
00:51:05,525 --> 00:51:09,725
>> In 2018, before an agreement, there's roughly 980,000 acres

959
00:51:10,925 --> 00:51:14,718
of unprotected land in Fresno County that do not have fire

960
00:51:14,718 --> 00:51:15,218
protection.

961
00:51:15,218 --> 00:51:16,515
And whether it's the state responsibility

962
00:51:16,515 --> 00:51:18,205
of the federal responsibility, there

963
00:51:18,205 --> 00:51:24,205
needs to be some level of local control for infrastructure,

964
00:51:26,828 --> 00:51:27,328
structures.

965
00:51:27,328 --> 00:51:28,828
The normal day to day, medical aids.

966
00:51:28,828 --> 00:51:31,485
Those don't fall to the wildland agency.

967
00:51:31,485 --> 00:51:33,645
We are able to do that.

968
00:51:33,645 --> 00:51:36,705
We had the Amador agreement that basically

969
00:51:36,705 --> 00:51:41,500
had an agreement between the county, which means

970
00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:44,500
local agency and Cal Fire.

971
00:51:47,514 --> 00:51:50,932
2018 of that, almost roughly a million acres,

972
00:51:50,932 --> 00:51:52,765
that was under contract of the fire district

973
00:51:52,765 --> 00:51:57,245
to be able to provide adequate level of response for those.

974
00:51:57,245 --> 00:52:03,421
So we had the Creek fire, several fires in the last eight

975
00:52:03,421 --> 00:52:06,130
years for that instance that have occurred

976
00:52:06,130 --> 00:52:09,850
within the unprotected lands between the district and Cal

977
00:52:09,850 --> 00:52:11,951
Fire that we were able to mitigate that

978
00:52:11,951 --> 00:52:15,485
by reducing the fiscal impacts across the board.

979
00:52:15,485 --> 00:52:20,415
As we continue to grow, costs have increased since then,

980
00:52:20,415 --> 00:52:22,225
and we've had an outbreak of COVID.

981
00:52:22,225 --> 00:52:24,525
Skyrocketing infrastructure costs of station

982
00:52:24,525 --> 00:52:26,525
builds, repairs, replacement.

983
00:52:27,115 --> 00:52:33,115
All of those costs continue to increase, we look at,

984
00:52:33,842 --> 00:52:36,816
how do we better more efficiently provide

985
00:52:36,816 --> 00:52:38,524
higher level of service while maintaining

986
00:52:38,524 --> 00:52:40,232
fiscal responsibility and accountability?

987
00:52:40,232 --> 00:52:44,432
So this time, we have MOU 2.0, which

988
00:52:48,261 --> 00:52:50,434
was the bridge to get to where we

989
00:52:50,434 --> 00:52:55,365
needed to be with the reduction of the workweek.

990
00:52:55,365 --> 00:52:57,221
And then we have the Amador program

991
00:52:57,221 --> 00:53:03,821
that's going to go away because the Cal Fire is going

992
00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:06,174
to have year round staffing.

993
00:53:06,174 --> 00:53:06,948
So we have the opportunity that we

994
00:53:06,948 --> 00:53:09,285
can redirect some of those amateur possibilities

995
00:53:09,285 --> 00:53:10,750
into one wholesale agreement that

996
00:53:10,750 --> 00:53:12,833
would provide an adequate level of funding to look

997
00:53:12,833 --> 00:53:14,345
at a long term strategic plan.

998
00:53:14,345 --> 00:53:16,965
They would allow us to look at growth,

999
00:53:16,965 --> 00:53:20,838
it's fire station locations, increased in fire stations.

1000
00:53:20,838 --> 00:53:22,338
Because the way that we're situated,

1001
00:53:22,338 --> 00:53:28,338
might be opportunities if budgets align that we could do

1002
00:53:29,669 --> 00:53:32,709
increased level of staffing within the Cal Fire station.

1003
00:53:32,709 --> 00:53:36,405
With other resources that could help minimize the community risk

1004
00:53:36,405 --> 00:53:37,650
reduction.

1005
00:53:37,650 --> 00:53:41,265
Could help having larger pump capacities, which

1006
00:53:49,537 --> 00:53:51,620
increase your fire protection and lowers your ISOs

1007
00:53:51,620 --> 00:53:55,600
and those underserved areas to potentially reduce

1008
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:55,798
insurance premiums.

1009
00:53:55,798 --> 00:53:57,373
But I think the best way is rather

1010
00:53:57,373 --> 00:53:59,498
than having several different agreements out there,

1011
00:53:59,498 --> 00:54:01,149
we consolidate it into one where we

1012
00:54:01,149 --> 00:54:04,500
have one master agreement that provides a level of protection

1013
00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:06,500
countywide.

1014
00:54:10,596 --> 00:54:12,530
>> Okay.

1015
00:54:12,530 --> 00:54:15,656
I just want to say, I appreciate all the work

1016
00:54:15,656 --> 00:54:17,948
that you and the firefighters do throughout the county.

1017
00:54:17,948 --> 00:54:20,877
Got a chance to be at your training center

1018
00:54:20,877 --> 00:54:24,477
and see what you all do.

1019
00:54:25,930 --> 00:54:25,843
It's amazing work.

1020
00:54:25,843 --> 00:54:26,885
It's dangerous work.

1021
00:54:26,885 --> 00:54:30,366
And like our sheriffs and police officers,

1022
00:54:30,366 --> 00:54:32,533
you do everything you can to make our community safe

1023
00:54:32,533 --> 00:54:37,780
I appreciate what you do every single day.

1024
00:54:37,780 --> 00:54:39,780
Yes, sir.

1025
00:54:40,587 --> 00:54:42,379
>> I think this is a receive and file item.

1026
00:54:42,379 --> 00:54:44,353
When it's time, if the board is supportive,

1027
00:54:44,353 --> 00:54:48,553
I'd like to direct staff, Paul Nerlin,

1028
00:54:49,445 --> 00:54:53,957
to work together with the fire chief and Mike Despain

1029
00:54:53,957 --> 00:54:56,544
to begin to put together an item that this board can act upon

1030
00:54:56,544 --> 00:54:58,669
to begin to move in the direction to implement some

1031
00:54:58,669 --> 00:55:00,169
of these things that are in the plan

1032
00:55:00,169 --> 00:55:03,125
and what the chief talked about as well.

1033
00:55:03,125 --> 00:55:05,418
>> Can we just do that for direction?

1034
00:55:05,418 --> 00:55:09,180
Or do you need a motion?

1035
00:55:11,450 --> 00:55:15,965
>> You can give direction to come back with something later.

1036
00:55:15,965 --> 00:55:17,429
>> Any comments from the public?

1037
00:55:17,429 --> 00:55:20,149
I will bring this back.

1038
00:55:20,149 --> 00:55:22,149
You have direction.

1039
00:55:22,261 --> 00:55:24,501
And we will move forward.

1040
00:55:24,501 --> 00:55:26,901
Thank you very much.

1041
00:55:30,438 --> 00:55:32,438
Next item, please.

1042
00:55:34,971 --> 00:55:38,350
>> Mr. Chairman, I apologize that I was just informed from

1043
00:55:38,350 --> 00:55:39,400
the Business Journal that we may have a publication issue on item

1044
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:39,900
six.

1045
00:55:39,900 --> 00:55:43,705
If we can move to seven to get clarification and discuss public

1046
00:55:43,705 --> 00:55:44,255
works.

1047
00:55:44,255 --> 00:55:50,855
We'll move to item number seven under Public Works and Planning.

1048
00:55:58,914 --> 00:56:01,331
Consider appeal of Planning Commission’s denial of Initial

1049
00:56:01,331 --> 00:56:01,333
Study No.

1050
00:56:01,333 --> 00:56:01,338
8517, Conditional Use Permit No.

1051
00:56:01,338 --> 00:56:01,343
3778, and Variance Application No.

1052
00:56:01,343 --> 00:56:01,353
4158, which propose to operation of a special event facility,

1053
00:56:01,353 --> 00:56:01,364
and grant a Variance to allow a mapping procedure to two

1054
00:56:01,364 --> 00:56:03,781
substandard-sized parcels from existing 10.39-acre subject

1055
00:56:03,781 --> 00:56:07,981
parcel; if appeal is upheld and Planning

1056
00:56:18,172 --> 00:56:18,672
.

1057
00:56:18,672 --> 00:56:23,727
>> Before we start, do any board members need to report any ex

1058
00:56:23,727 --> 00:56:25,685
parte communications they've had on the matter?

1059
00:56:25,685 --> 00:56:26,957
>> Good morning.

1060
00:56:26,957 --> 00:56:29,531
This item comes to your board on appeal of the Planning

1061
00:56:29,531 --> 00:56:32,485
Commission's June 18th denial of 5 to 0 with three commissioners

1062
00:56:32,485 --> 00:56:33,500
absent.

1063
00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:35,500
One abstaining.

1064
00:56:41,405 --> 00:56:43,805
Application number 3778 and variance

1065
00:56:44,511 --> 00:56:45,613
application number 4158.

1066
00:56:45,613 --> 00:56:48,387
The project proposes to allow the operation of an event

1067
00:56:48,387 --> 00:56:49,845
facility with a concurrent variance

1068
00:56:49,845 --> 00:56:52,949
to create two substandard sized parcels from an existing 10.39

1069
00:56:52,949 --> 00:56:53,617
acre parcel.

1070
00:56:53,617 --> 00:56:55,945
The project site is located adjacent to the Northwest

1071
00:56:55,945 --> 00:56:58,345
corner of the intersection of Fowler and Manning Avenues.

1072
00:56:58,345 --> 00:57:01,765
Outside the city of Fowler's sphere of influence.

1073
00:57:01,765 --> 00:57:04,584
At the Planning Commission's June 18th hearing,

1074
00:57:04,584 --> 00:57:08,365
the Commission heard testimony from the applicant

1075
00:57:08,365 --> 00:57:11,831
and applicant's representatives Pierre code enforcement staff

1076
00:57:11,831 --> 00:57:14,320
provided information on the violations and on site

1077
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,365
inspections testimony was received from individuals both

1078
00:57:16,365 --> 00:57:19,754
in favor of and opposition to the proposed.

1079
00:57:19,754 --> 00:57:22,154
Closing opposition cited concerns,

1080
00:57:23,575 --> 00:57:27,525
with excessively loud music and bright lights during events.

1081
00:57:27,525 --> 00:57:30,525
Following the Planning Commission's denial,

1082
00:57:31,888 --> 00:57:36,740
an appeal was filed by the applicant and appellant on June

1083
00:57:36,740 --> 00:57:37,205
24th, 2026.

1084
00:57:37,205 --> 00:57:39,485
If your board is able to determine that the required

1085
00:57:39,485 --> 00:57:43,850
findings for granting approval of CEP 3778

1086
00:57:47,483 --> 00:57:49,250
and variance number 4158 can be made,

1087
00:57:49,250 --> 00:57:51,665
your board may adopt the draft resolution on file

1088
00:57:51,665 --> 00:57:53,485
with the clerk to grant the appeal.

1089
00:57:53,485 --> 00:57:55,485
An approval classified conditional use

1090
00:57:55,485 --> 00:57:58,485
permit application number 3778 and number 4158

1091
00:57:58,485 --> 00:58:01,500
and adopt the mitigated negative declaration

1092
00:58:01,500 --> 00:58:03,125
based on initial study number 8517,

1093
00:58:03,125 --> 00:58:07,325
subject to the proposed mitigation measures, conditions

1094
00:58:07,495 --> 00:58:08,745
of approval and project notes.

1095
00:58:08,745 --> 00:58:10,925
With the additional conditions for indemnification

1096
00:58:10,925 --> 00:58:13,550
and public water system requirements.

1097
00:58:13,550 --> 00:58:16,180
If your board is unable to make the required findings

1098
00:58:16,180 --> 00:58:20,380
for granting c p number 3778, the board

1099
00:58:24,771 --> 00:58:26,271
may make a motion to deny the appeal

1100
00:58:26,271 --> 00:58:27,578
and uphold the Planning Commission's

1101
00:58:27,578 --> 00:58:29,325
denial of unclassified conditional use

1102
00:58:29,325 --> 00:58:33,525
permit application number 3778 and variance application number

1103
00:58:34,990 --> 00:58:34,599
4158.

1104
00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:37,252
I'm available if you have any questions.

1105
00:58:37,252 --> 00:58:38,585
>> Any questions from the board?

1106
00:58:38,585 --> 00:58:41,525
We will now open the hearing to public testimony.

1107
00:58:41,525 --> 00:58:44,285
The appellant is here, they have five minutes to present.

1108
00:58:44,285 --> 00:58:46,285
Are they here?

1109
00:58:49,999 --> 00:58:51,904
Okay.

1110
00:58:51,904 --> 00:58:54,304
>> Good morning honorable supervisors.

1111
00:58:54,321 --> 00:58:56,525
My name is John Kinsey with Wenger Jones LLC.

1112
00:58:56,525 --> 00:59:01,685
I'm here with Mr. John Khosa, who is here

1113
00:59:01,685 --> 00:59:03,498
on behalf of the Sunset Acres.

1114
00:59:03,498 --> 00:59:06,633
I want to thank you for your consideration of this project

1115
00:59:06,633 --> 00:59:07,133
today.

1116
00:59:07,133 --> 00:59:10,541
Ask the county grows, there is a real need

1117
00:59:10,541 --> 00:59:12,695
for top tier event spaces.

1118
00:59:12,695 --> 00:59:16,845
The Sunset Acres provides that type of space.

1119
00:59:16,845 --> 00:59:19,485
Where members of the community, county residents

1120
00:59:19,485 --> 00:59:21,845
can convene and gather with friends colleagues

1121
00:59:21,845 --> 00:59:23,541
and loved ones.

1122
00:59:23,541 --> 00:59:27,141
This is a professional designed venue

1123
00:59:28,453 --> 00:59:33,500
that really is a state of the art amenity

1124
00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:34,958
that the county can be proud of.

1125
00:59:34,958 --> 00:59:39,997
I want to reiterate that the Sunset Acres and the coasters

1126
00:59:39,997 --> 00:59:41,635
are members of this community.

1127
00:59:41,635 --> 00:59:42,835
They live here.

1128
00:59:42,835 --> 00:59:44,585
They work here and it's important for them

1129
00:59:44,585 --> 00:59:45,741
to be a good neighbor.

1130
00:59:45,741 --> 00:59:49,333
To that end, they've taken the community feedback

1131
00:59:49,333 --> 00:59:52,298
that they received at public meetings and otherwise

1132
00:59:52,298 --> 00:59:54,225
and have responded to that feedback

1133
00:59:54,225 --> 00:59:56,225
intangible, meaningful ways.

1134
01:00:01,925 --> 01:00:04,745
With respect to noise management,

1135
01:00:04,745 --> 01:00:08,500
the speakers are faced inward and there's

1136
01:00:08,500 --> 01:00:10,938
continuing monitoring during events at the boundary

1137
01:00:10,938 --> 01:00:13,850
to make sure there's no leakage.

1138
01:00:13,850 --> 01:00:16,685
Events must stop by 10 p.m..

1139
01:00:16,765 --> 01:00:20,565
With respect to traffic and those concerns,

1140
01:00:20,565 --> 01:00:23,765
the traffic has been evaluated by professional.

1141
01:00:23,765 --> 01:00:26,693
John Rowland, you're familiar with.

1142
01:00:26,693 --> 01:00:29,950
And to ensure that the traffic impacts

1143
01:00:29,950 --> 01:00:31,938
won't affect the surrounding community.

1144
01:00:31,938 --> 01:00:35,538
They also believe in responsible hospitality.

1145
01:00:36,829 --> 01:00:41,290
They take safety very seriously, especially when

1146
01:00:42,289 --> 01:00:44,621
it comes to alcohol.

1147
01:00:44,621 --> 01:00:48,505
The only authorized use of license, trained vendors

1148
01:00:48,505 --> 01:00:52,134
and bartenders who were trained on how to spot fake IDs,

1149
01:00:52,134 --> 01:00:53,915
and to make sure nobody gets overserved.

1150
01:00:53,915 --> 01:00:57,500
They also shut down the bar completely at 930.

1151
01:00:57,500 --> 01:01:00,900
So everyone has plenty of time to wind down

1152
01:01:00,900 --> 01:01:03,900
and to head home safely.

1153
01:01:03,845 --> 01:01:08,800
We have our transportation and noise consultants here with us.

1154
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,750
If you have any questions, but I did

1155
01:01:10,750 --> 01:01:12,325
want to thank you for your time and your consideration

1156
01:01:12,325 --> 01:01:14,450
of this appeal.

1157
01:01:14,450 --> 01:01:20,450
With that, I'd like to turn it over to Kirjan.

1158
01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:28,600
>> Good morning.

1159
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:33,274
First of all, I'd like to thank the Board of Supervisors.

1160
01:01:33,274 --> 01:01:39,274
My name is Kirjan Kosa, I live at 421 East South

1161
01:01:47,457 --> 01:01:49,857
Avenue in Fowler, California.

1162
01:01:49,878 --> 01:01:53,625
I wanted to thank you for your consideration of the Sunset

1163
01:01:53,625 --> 01:01:54,125
Accords.

1164
01:01:54,125 --> 01:01:57,325
I'd like to thank the staff of Fresno County Planning

1165
01:01:57,325 --> 01:01:57,825
Department.

1166
01:01:57,825 --> 01:01:59,462
We live here we work here.

1167
01:01:59,462 --> 01:02:01,302
We strive to be the best neighbors we can.

1168
01:02:01,302 --> 01:02:03,899
Our family is very proud of this venue.

1169
01:02:03,899 --> 01:02:06,850
It is a special place for members of our community

1170
01:02:06,850 --> 01:02:10,565
to celebrate the most important events of their life.

1171
01:02:10,565 --> 01:02:14,765
I appreciate your time today and all

1172
01:02:17,464 --> 01:02:19,839
that you do for the Fresno County and the rural community

1173
01:02:19,839 --> 01:02:20,339
out there.

1174
01:02:20,339 --> 01:02:21,130
I am a farmer.

1175
01:02:21,130 --> 01:02:24,189
I appreciate all that you do for us in the whole area.

1176
01:02:24,189 --> 01:02:27,245
I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have.

1177
01:02:27,245 --> 01:02:29,969
>> Any other comments in favor of the appeal?

1178
01:02:29,969 --> 01:02:32,969
Anybody who would like to?

1179
01:02:35,731 --> 01:02:37,731
Please come forward.

1180
01:02:42,294 --> 01:02:44,604
>> Good morning, Fresno County supervisors.

1181
01:02:44,604 --> 01:02:46,685
My name is Benta from Fresno.

1182
01:02:46,685 --> 01:02:49,191
Prior to my recent move to Clovis

1183
01:02:49,191 --> 01:02:51,845
I have lived in two homes.

1184
01:02:51,845 --> 01:02:56,450
The first at 8745 South Fowler Avenue, Fowler,

1185
01:02:56,191 --> 01:02:59,245
immediately adjacent to the property being discussed today.

1186
01:02:59,245 --> 01:03:03,933
I lived there from 1962 until I married in 1979.

1187
01:03:03,933 --> 01:03:08,478
My parents lived there until my mom's passing in 2009,

1188
01:03:08,478 --> 01:03:13,878
and my dad until 2019, when he was 91 years old.

1189
01:03:14,353 --> 01:03:20,953
The second home I've lived in is at 6596 East Parlier Avenue

1190
01:03:25,243 --> 01:03:27,368
Fowler about a quarter mile from the coast property

1191
01:03:27,368 --> 01:03:29,415
I owned and occupied the residence from 1982

1192
01:03:29,415 --> 01:03:30,658
until about a year ago.

1193
01:03:30,658 --> 01:03:33,685
My comments today are to share my experiences with the Khosa

1194
01:03:33,685 --> 01:03:37,138
family as exceptional and thoughtful neighbors.

1195
01:03:37,138 --> 01:03:40,850
Having lived in such close proximity

1196
01:03:40,850 --> 01:03:46,685
to the proposed Sunset Acres, I have experience of its impact.

1197
01:03:47,308 --> 01:03:49,933
Our families never experienced inconvenience from this venture.

1198
01:03:49,933 --> 01:03:53,676
It has not created undesired noise, light.

1199
01:03:53,676 --> 01:03:57,295
It has not created undesirable or impactful changes

1200
01:03:57,295 --> 01:03:58,845
in traffic patterns.

1201
01:03:58,845 --> 01:04:01,604
What has been impactful is the beautification

1202
01:04:01,604 --> 01:04:05,944
of the property itself and the property surrounding it.

1203
01:04:05,944 --> 01:04:09,305
The property had not been used for any agricultural purposes

1204
01:04:09,305 --> 01:04:11,305
for many years.

1205
01:04:13,124 --> 01:04:18,409
The owners, Urgant and Preet removed an eyesore deteriorating

1206
01:04:18,409 --> 01:04:22,900
barn, adding trees, roses and grass

1207
01:04:22,885 --> 01:04:24,955
to create an esthetically pleasing property,

1208
01:04:24,955 --> 01:04:27,269
a home anyone would welcome as a neighbor.

1209
01:04:27,269 --> 01:04:30,429
My family home and property adjacent to the Kosta's property

1210
01:04:30,429 --> 01:04:32,175
was sold in 2019.

1211
01:04:32,175 --> 01:04:35,438
The buyer severely neglected the property, killing

1212
01:04:35,438 --> 01:04:38,675
two and a half acres of walnuts, have an acre of oranges,

1213
01:04:38,675 --> 01:04:40,845
and the amazing gardens my dad had

1214
01:04:40,845 --> 01:04:43,845
an orchard for over 60 years.

1215
01:04:49,923 --> 01:04:50,965
>> Please just finish up.

1216
01:04:50,965 --> 01:04:53,947
>> When the closest bought the home in 23,

1217
01:04:53,947 --> 01:04:56,322
they cleared away the acres of dead trees, all the weeds,

1218
01:04:56,322 --> 01:04:59,125
and a shed that was often tagged with graffiti.

1219
01:04:59,125 --> 01:05:01,645
They repaired the house and made a lovely residence again.

1220
01:05:01,645 --> 01:05:04,421
The zoning changes in and around the property

1221
01:05:04,421 --> 01:05:06,965
had been significant in recent years.

1222
01:05:06,965 --> 01:05:10,440
Our own property and my parents property were at one time

1223
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,640
restricted from building additions because of AG 20

1224
01:05:19,831 --> 01:05:21,831
regulations.

1225
01:05:21,976 --> 01:05:24,376
>> Could you close up?

1226
01:05:27,397 --> 01:05:28,605
>> I have one very brief one.

1227
01:05:28,605 --> 01:05:28,728
The county supported requested changes

1228
01:05:28,728 --> 01:05:31,186
and were able to improve our properties for purposeful use.

1229
01:05:31,186 --> 01:05:33,145
The Fresno County Planning Commission personnel

1230
01:05:33,145 --> 01:05:34,735
have assisted the courses in addressing

1231
01:05:34,735 --> 01:05:36,693
the requests and suggestions of the Commission,

1232
01:05:36,693 --> 01:05:38,685
as well as concerns of a few neighbors.

1233
01:05:38,685 --> 01:05:41,565
They desire to offer a diverse community in and around Fowler,

1234
01:05:41,565 --> 01:05:45,245
a greatly needed venue where families can honor and celebrate

1235
01:05:45,245 --> 01:05:46,525
life events.

1236
01:05:46,525 --> 01:05:48,995
In addition to the venue, the courses

1237
01:05:48,995 --> 01:05:50,904
seek to establish their primary residence

1238
01:05:50,904 --> 01:05:54,325
next to the venue, a testimony to their commitment

1239
01:05:54,325 --> 01:05:55,930
to the property.

1240
01:05:55,930 --> 01:05:58,125
This is a unique, lovely and timely opportunity

1241
01:05:58,125 --> 01:05:59,850
for our community.

1242
01:05:59,850 --> 01:06:03,885
Thank you for your time and favorable consideration.

1243
01:06:03,885 --> 01:06:05,885
>> Thank you.

1244
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:11,820
Any other comments in favor of the appeal?

1245
01:06:17,748 --> 01:06:18,666
Welcome.

1246
01:06:18,666 --> 01:06:19,265
>> Thank you.

1247
01:06:19,265 --> 01:06:20,182
My name is Joe Rivera.

1248
01:06:20,182 --> 01:06:22,190
I am a business owner out of the city of Fowler.

1249
01:06:22,190 --> 01:06:26,990
I have been a business owner for 39 years,

1250
01:06:27,235 --> 01:06:31,480
out of repair, U-Haul Fowler and Redcat towing.

1251
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,105
I want to thank you for the opportunity

1252
01:06:33,105 --> 01:06:36,705
to come up here and speak.

1253
01:06:39,282 --> 01:06:41,472
Gerjant has invested a tremendous amount

1254
01:06:41,472 --> 01:06:43,805
of time money and hard work into building this business.

1255
01:06:43,805 --> 01:06:45,565
Sunset acres is not simply a property.

1256
01:06:45,565 --> 01:06:46,875
It's someone's livelihood.

1257
01:06:46,875 --> 01:06:49,845
A business that provides a place for families and communities

1258
01:06:49,845 --> 01:06:54,645
to come together for weddings and special events.

1259
01:06:56,220 --> 01:07:02,530
Gerjant has made every effort to operate Sunset Acres responsibly

1260
01:07:02,530 --> 01:07:08,220
and to address the concerns of the county and the surrounding.

1261
01:07:08,220 --> 01:07:11,980
Environmental studies have come completed with traffic studies

1262
01:07:11,980 --> 01:07:13,265
and they were done to evaluate the potential impacts

1263
01:07:13,265 --> 01:07:14,625
of the business.

1264
01:07:14,625 --> 01:07:19,365
The venue also operates primarily on weekends and events

1265
01:07:19,365 --> 01:07:22,965
generally conclude no later than 10:00 PM.

1266
01:07:25,965 --> 01:07:30,165
Urgent is not only trying to --

1267
01:07:33,405 --> 01:07:37,390
Gurjad is not trying to create a problem for his neighbors.

1268
01:07:37,390 --> 01:07:39,150
He's trying to operate a legit business

1269
01:07:39,150 --> 01:07:40,828
while being a responsible member of the community.

1270
01:07:40,828 --> 01:07:43,486
A lot has already been invested in making Sunset Acres comply

1271
01:07:43,486 --> 01:07:44,778
with the county's requirements.

1272
01:07:44,778 --> 01:07:47,909
Closing the business or placing restrictions on it

1273
01:07:47,909 --> 01:07:49,893
that make it impossible to operate

1274
01:07:49,893 --> 01:07:56,493
would have a serious financial impact on Gurjant and his family

1275
01:07:59,718 --> 01:08:02,105
as well as many employees, vendors, wedding professionals

1276
01:08:02,105 --> 01:08:04,718
and other local businesses that benefit from the events

1277
01:08:04,718 --> 01:08:05,511
held there.

1278
01:08:05,511 --> 01:08:09,210
I asked the county to please consider this studies that

1279
01:08:09,210 --> 01:08:11,245
have already been completed.

1280
01:08:11,245 --> 01:08:14,965
The efforts has been made to comply with the reasonable way

1281
01:08:14,965 --> 01:08:15,652
this venue.

1282
01:08:15,652 --> 01:08:17,277
We're not asking for special treatment.

1283
01:08:17,277 --> 01:08:19,613
We're asking for a fair opportunity for Sunset Acres

1284
01:08:19,613 --> 01:08:22,650
to continue operating as a responsible business in Fresno

1285
01:08:22,650 --> 01:08:22,565
County.

1286
01:08:22,565 --> 01:08:24,845
Please do not take away someone's livelihood

1287
01:08:24,845 --> 01:08:28,805
when he has made a genuine effort to follow the process,

1288
01:08:28,805 --> 01:08:31,571
address the county's concerns and be a good neighbor.

1289
01:08:31,571 --> 01:08:37,571
Thank you for your time and considering Gurjant and sunset

1290
01:08:40,548 --> 01:08:42,965
acres and everybody's livelihood depends on this business.

1291
01:08:42,965 --> 01:08:44,965
>> Thank you.

1292
01:08:45,589 --> 01:08:49,445
Anyone else who wants to speak in favor?

1293
01:08:49,445 --> 01:08:51,445
>> Hello.

1294
01:08:52,530 --> 01:08:54,530
Good morning everybody.

1295
01:08:55,834 --> 01:08:58,834
My name is Ajit Singh.

1296
01:09:01,900 --> 01:09:03,450
I know Mr. Kosa and their family since 1977.

1297
01:09:03,450 --> 01:09:05,450
They're very responsible.

1298
01:09:07,125 --> 01:09:13,125
He turned that junky place into a very nice place

1299
01:09:16,635 --> 01:09:18,926
but the community needed for weddings and everything.

1300
01:09:18,926 --> 01:09:20,765
He's very responsible person.

1301
01:09:20,765 --> 01:09:26,369
I think we should give him an opportunity and think about it.

1302
01:09:26,369 --> 01:09:28,369
Thank you, everybody.

1303
01:09:34,274 --> 01:09:36,274
>> Thank you.

1304
01:09:39,220 --> 01:09:41,220
>> Good morning, supervisors.

1305
01:09:41,765 --> 01:09:42,390
My name is Don.

1306
01:09:42,390 --> 01:09:44,265
I live at 5699 Manning Avenue, which is catty

1307
01:09:44,265 --> 01:09:46,125
corner across from the venue.

1308
01:09:46,125 --> 01:09:48,453
It's less than a 10th of a mile away.

1309
01:09:48,453 --> 01:09:51,357
Anything between it it's just vineyard.

1310
01:09:51,357 --> 01:09:53,517
So I'm gonna hear a noise or whatever,

1311
01:09:53,517 --> 01:09:55,325
it's going to be there.

1312
01:09:55,325 --> 01:09:57,725
I'm almost 80 years old.

1313
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:04,685
If anybody's going to complain, I'm

1314
01:10:04,685 --> 01:10:04,913
the guy that should be complaining.

1315
01:10:04,913 --> 01:10:05,582
But I'm not.

1316
01:10:05,582 --> 01:10:06,705
I enjoy the venue.

1317
01:10:06,705 --> 01:10:09,205
I enjoy when they're having fun over there.

1318
01:10:09,205 --> 01:10:12,805
When it's a wedding or quinceanera.

1319
01:10:17,256 --> 01:10:18,548
Fowler needs a place like this.

1320
01:10:18,548 --> 01:10:20,965
They've done a heck of a job with developing the property.

1321
01:10:20,965 --> 01:10:22,957
I know it was not a great property.

1322
01:10:22,957 --> 01:10:27,157
They made it into a wonderful place.

1323
01:10:28,805 --> 01:10:33,605
The house I'm in, my ex's grandparents built.

1324
01:10:34,555 --> 01:10:38,310
She was there for a long time before she passed away.

1325
01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:40,313
I would like to say, if you could

1326
01:10:40,313 --> 01:10:42,713
please pass this ordinance.

1327
01:10:46,446 --> 01:10:48,400
It's going to be good for them.

1328
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:49,942
It's going to be good for the county,

1329
01:10:49,942 --> 01:10:53,462
as well as for Fowler California.

1330
01:10:53,462 --> 01:10:55,805
Thank you very much.

1331
01:10:55,805 --> 01:10:57,805
>> Thank you.

1332
01:10:58,623 --> 01:11:02,223
Anyone else to speak in favor?

1333
01:11:05,502 --> 01:11:07,902
>> Hi, good morning, Supervisors.

1334
01:11:08,734 --> 01:11:11,134
My name is Rathmonten.

1335
01:11:12,500 --> 01:11:15,604
I was born and raised in Fowler.

1336
01:11:15,604 --> 01:11:21,806
I live on 5431 East Fowler Avenue, which is in the quarter

1337
01:11:21,806 --> 01:11:23,264
mile radius of sunset I am in favor

1338
01:11:23,264 --> 01:11:23,965
in support of the event Hall.

1339
01:11:23,965 --> 01:11:26,645
I think the property event are esthetically pleasing.

1340
01:11:26,645 --> 01:11:29,980
I drive by there every day.

1341
01:11:29,980 --> 01:11:30,820
And he's always making improvements

1342
01:11:30,820 --> 01:11:34,250
and he's a very hard worker.

1343
01:11:34,250 --> 01:11:40,845
Mr. Kosa is very respectful and a nice person and he's always

1344
01:11:40,845 --> 01:11:42,678
willing to work with you.

1345
01:11:42,678 --> 01:11:45,941
From what I have been hearing I'm trying his best

1346
01:11:45,941 --> 01:11:49,445
and putting his hard earned money and sweat.

1347
01:11:49,445 --> 01:11:52,973
And he's a farmer and he's always hard working and always

1348
01:11:52,973 --> 01:11:53,749
been working.

1349
01:11:53,749 --> 01:11:57,189
Anytime I pass by, he's there and always greets you

1350
01:11:57,189 --> 01:11:59,110
with respect and love.

1351
01:11:59,110 --> 01:12:05,110
I also believe it's a great valuable place for weddings,

1352
01:12:05,845 --> 01:12:08,680
celebrations and other community events.

1353
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:09,651
We never really had anything like that

1354
01:12:09,651 --> 01:12:10,725
in our Fowler community.

1355
01:12:10,725 --> 01:12:12,125
I think it's a great addition.

1356
01:12:12,125 --> 01:12:14,770
As far as the noise and living nearby,

1357
01:12:14,770 --> 01:12:17,885
I don't have any concerns with the venue.

1358
01:12:17,885 --> 01:12:20,585
As far as the noise, I don't hear much noise.

1359
01:12:20,585 --> 01:12:23,738
I think our coyotes are louder than the event center.

1360
01:12:23,738 --> 01:12:28,388
I just wanted to make it short because I know you

1361
01:12:28,388 --> 01:12:30,388
guys want to--

1362
01:12:35,122 --> 01:12:35,812
>> Thank you.

1363
01:12:35,812 --> 01:12:41,812
Anyone else want to speak in favor of the appeal?

1364
01:12:45,279 --> 01:12:47,279
>> Hi.

1365
01:12:48,915 --> 01:12:50,322
>> Welcome.

1366
01:12:50,322 --> 01:12:50,536
>> I want to thank you for this opportunity to speak in front

1367
01:12:50,536 --> 01:12:50,538
of you.

1368
01:12:50,538 --> 01:12:51,717
I was kind of afraid to speak at the last meeting

1369
01:12:51,717 --> 01:12:53,765
because I kind of regretted that.

1370
01:12:53,765 --> 01:12:59,165
So I wanted to make sure I spoke today.

1371
01:13:01,610 --> 01:13:03,193
My family resides at 5616 East Manning

1372
01:13:03,193 --> 01:13:08,593
Avenue, which is about 0.28 miles from the venue itself.

1373
01:13:13,187 --> 01:13:18,959
I am usually outside from late afternoon to the late evening,

1374
01:13:18,959 --> 01:13:21,840
working in the yard trying to keep up the property.

1375
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:22,351
I have witnessed events.

1376
01:13:22,351 --> 01:13:25,931
I could barely hear any noise coming from an event.

1377
01:13:25,931 --> 01:13:28,431
So there's probably only been one time, but other than that,

1378
01:13:28,431 --> 01:13:30,850
it's to a minimum.

1379
01:13:30,850 --> 01:13:32,310
The lights are nice to have out there.

1380
01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:33,565
They are kind of comforting.

1381
01:13:33,565 --> 01:13:37,765
Because without them, it is pitch black.

1382
01:13:38,565 --> 01:13:42,165
And they are not always on.

1383
01:13:45,824 --> 01:13:47,366
It's not like it's a big distraction.

1384
01:13:47,366 --> 01:13:47,616
There's been moments where I'll go in the house and tell my mom,

1385
01:13:47,616 --> 01:13:50,810
the lights are on tonight, and she doesn't even notice.

1386
01:13:50,810 --> 01:13:53,511
Doesn't notice the music is playing from inside the house.

1387
01:13:53,511 --> 01:13:55,285
We have one pane windows.

1388
01:13:55,285 --> 01:13:58,810
We can hear diesel trucks passing our house,

1389
01:13:58,810 --> 01:13:59,629
shaking our house.

1390
01:13:59,629 --> 01:14:02,290
We would hear noise.

1391
01:14:07,131 --> 01:14:08,438
Especially her.

1392
01:14:08,438 --> 01:14:10,105
I think it's a benefit to the community.

1393
01:14:10,105 --> 01:14:13,495
There's not much that we have in Fowler in terms of venues.

1394
01:14:13,495 --> 01:14:16,857
It would be nice to have something local for the younger

1395
01:14:16,857 --> 01:14:21,960
generation to go to and utilize, especially for the schools.

1396
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,436
It would be a little bit more comforting,

1397
01:14:23,436 --> 01:14:26,610
and I'm pretty sure for parents knowing that their children are

1398
01:14:26,610 --> 01:14:29,225
closer to the community rather than going out

1399
01:14:29,225 --> 01:14:32,225
to close or Fresno areas.

1400
01:14:35,414 --> 01:14:37,539
Even members from Selma could utilize that as well.

1401
01:14:37,539 --> 01:14:38,250
I think it would be a great benefit.

1402
01:14:38,250 --> 01:14:39,660
Please put a lot of work into it.

1403
01:14:39,660 --> 01:14:45,660
From the reports, it seems he is being very responsible

1404
01:14:49,591 --> 01:14:51,396
>> Thank you very much.

1405
01:14:51,396 --> 01:14:53,438
Anyone else wish to speak in favor of the appeal?

1406
01:14:53,438 --> 01:14:57,638
Anybody wish to speak against the appeal?

1407
01:14:59,750 --> 01:15:00,855
Seeing none.

1408
01:15:00,855 --> 01:15:01,745
Yes?

1409
01:15:01,745 --> 01:15:03,745
Okay.

1410
01:15:08,564 --> 01:15:09,122
>> Thank you.

1411
01:15:09,122 --> 01:15:10,205
My name is Paris Campbell.

1412
01:15:10,205 --> 01:15:11,497
I live at 9403 South Claremont.

1413
01:15:11,497 --> 01:15:15,795
I oppose giving a conditional use permit to the closest

1414
01:15:15,795 --> 01:15:17,501
operating at Sunset Acres.

1415
01:15:17,501 --> 01:15:19,655
Their facility is very inappropriate

1416
01:15:19,655 --> 01:15:23,885
for a quiet country location due to the frequent high level

1417
01:15:23,885 --> 01:15:27,165
of noise, lights and traffic congestion,

1418
01:15:27,165 --> 01:15:34,365
which is all now for almost three and a half years very

1419
01:15:36,135 --> 01:15:37,802
negatively impacted our quality of life.

1420
01:15:37,802 --> 01:15:37,815
The first few homes on our block are less than half a mile

1421
01:15:37,815 --> 01:15:39,907
from the venue as the crow flies,

1422
01:15:39,907 --> 01:15:42,725
and are subject to the intense glare from their yard lights

1423
01:15:42,725 --> 01:15:43,465
during events.

1424
01:15:43,465 --> 01:15:46,711
They have finally within the last two weeks moved only three

1425
01:15:46,711 --> 01:15:50,500
of the lights that were particularly

1426
01:15:50,500 --> 01:15:52,450
bright and intrusive, but had they

1427
01:15:52,450 --> 01:15:54,164
wanted to be good neighbors, they would have done

1428
01:15:54,164 --> 01:15:55,622
this much sooner instead of waiting

1429
01:15:55,622 --> 01:16:00,275
for two and a half years, since they knew that it was a problem.

1430
01:16:00,275 --> 01:16:03,261
In coincidentally, just before this hearing.

1431
01:16:03,261 --> 01:16:06,500
They also have very tall palm trees,

1432
01:16:06,500 --> 01:16:12,605
which are circled with lights, and the palm trees are probably

1433
01:16:14,347 --> 01:16:15,430
close to 80 to 100ft tall.

1434
01:16:15,430 --> 01:16:17,130
You can see them from a long distance.

1435
01:16:17,130 --> 01:16:19,485
Loud noise music, including profane lyrics,

1436
01:16:19,485 --> 01:16:21,165
words that I would not repeat are

1437
01:16:21,165 --> 01:16:27,165
heard by the children on our block and by us.

1438
01:16:28,778 --> 01:16:31,361
We've called the Fresno County Sheriff's Office over 60 times.

1439
01:16:31,361 --> 01:16:33,690
We don't want to keep calling the police.

1440
01:16:33,690 --> 01:16:38,469
The police report that they are treated very rudely

1441
01:16:38,574 --> 01:16:40,574
by the Cosas.

1442
01:16:42,865 --> 01:16:44,865
Sunset acres is constantly disturbing the peace.

1443
01:16:44,865 --> 01:16:45,685
I hate to have to call the police because of sunset Acres

1444
01:16:45,685 --> 01:16:47,970
refuses to follow the rules that apply to all of us.

1445
01:16:47,970 --> 01:16:50,197
The coast has have stated that their nearest

1446
01:16:50,197 --> 01:16:52,405
neighbor to the north is not opposed to their events,

1447
01:16:52,405 --> 01:16:54,271
but that property is owned by the coast

1448
01:16:54,271 --> 01:16:57,245
and beyond that is a cemetery.

1449
01:16:57,245 --> 01:17:01,275
We want our lives back without intrusion every weekend

1450
01:17:01,275 --> 01:17:06,750
of noise, rude lyrics, traffic congestion, extra dust

1451
01:17:06,675 --> 01:17:08,150
and excessive light.

1452
01:17:08,150 --> 01:17:10,730
Water use in this area is also a problem

1453
01:17:10,730 --> 01:17:11,365
when you have that many people.

1454
01:17:11,365 --> 01:17:14,237
The city of Fowler opposes Sunset acres

1455
01:17:14,237 --> 01:17:18,618
due to having annexed property less than half a mile

1456
01:17:18,618 --> 01:17:21,845
away from when there will be a construction of 179 new homes

1457
01:17:21,845 --> 01:17:22,778
in the near future.

1458
01:17:22,778 --> 01:17:25,335
These are consist of families with many more children being

1459
01:17:25,335 --> 01:17:26,942
subjected to these same issues.

1460
01:17:26,942 --> 01:17:29,378
The city of Fowler has also viewed the numerous complaints

1461
01:17:29,378 --> 01:17:30,945
about Sunset Acres.

1462
01:17:30,945 --> 01:17:33,194
Lastly, everyone should have to follow the rules

1463
01:17:33,194 --> 01:17:33,868
and regulations.

1464
01:17:33,868 --> 01:17:35,805
The causes have not done this.

1465
01:17:35,805 --> 01:17:43,500
When purchased, the property had a single family home in a barn.

1466
01:17:49,420 --> 01:17:51,628
, without any permits made all the changes to convert

1467
01:17:51,628 --> 01:17:53,450
the property into an event center.

1468
01:17:53,450 --> 01:17:54,637
They begin operating without a permit.

1469
01:17:54,637 --> 01:17:57,525
They knew this and have been operating without a permit.

1470
01:17:57,525 --> 01:17:59,658
They were reported by a neighbor adversely affected

1471
01:17:59,658 --> 01:18:00,878
by their operation.

1472
01:18:00,878 --> 01:18:05,195
Fresno County Code enforcement issued a cease and desist order,

1473
01:18:05,195 --> 01:18:06,585
and they ignored it.

1474
01:18:06,585 --> 01:18:07,775
They went on continuing.

1475
01:18:07,775 --> 01:18:11,395
We have video evidence that they were continuing to operate.

1476
01:18:11,395 --> 01:18:13,342
The causes have a proven record of ignoring

1477
01:18:13,342 --> 01:18:14,498
legitimate concerns of the neighbors

1478
01:18:14,498 --> 01:18:16,810
and threatening those who oppose them.

1479
01:18:16,810 --> 01:18:22,810
At least two neighbors reported being chased in a vehicle

1480
01:18:23,321 --> 01:18:24,613
by someone associated with the.

1481
01:18:24,613 --> 01:18:25,509
They have no regard for their neighbors or the regulations,

1482
01:18:25,509 --> 01:18:27,461
and I hope the board will not reward

1483
01:18:27,461 --> 01:18:29,949
three years of illegal operation and will not give them

1484
01:18:29,949 --> 01:18:32,349
a conditional use permit.

1485
01:18:41,603 --> 01:18:43,295
>> Thank you.

1486
01:18:43,295 --> 01:18:45,295
Anyone else?

1487
01:18:58,890 --> 01:18:59,343
>> Hi, I am Bradley Reed.

1488
01:18:59,343 --> 01:18:59,555
Good morning, supervisor.

1489
01:18:59,555 --> 01:19:00,406
I will not have time to read everything in the letter,

1490
01:19:00,406 --> 01:19:02,131
but I will leave that to you to do.

1491
01:19:02,131 --> 01:19:05,265
With regard to the request to subdivide the property

1492
01:19:05,265 --> 01:19:08,501
through a variance, there is no merit or legal basis

1493
01:19:08,501 --> 01:19:09,565
for the request.

1494
01:19:09,565 --> 01:19:12,101
The applicant claims that there are

1495
01:19:12,101 --> 01:19:15,701
four exceptional, extraordinary or unique circumstances

1496
01:19:15,911 --> 01:19:17,973
or conditions that apply to the land.

1497
01:19:17,973 --> 01:19:24,573
One, the property is substandard in size, and two, the parcel

1498
01:19:25,610 --> 01:19:26,341
is non productive farmland.

1499
01:19:26,341 --> 01:19:30,253
Three, proximity to the cemetery makes the parcel less

1500
01:19:30,253 --> 01:19:31,545
than ideal for farming.

1501
01:19:31,545 --> 01:19:34,551
And four, an irrigation pipeline easement

1502
01:19:34,551 --> 01:19:38,151
traverses the portion of the property.

1503
01:19:38,205 --> 01:19:41,205
In truth, substandard size parcels

1504
01:19:44,685 --> 01:19:45,810
are abundant in the county.

1505
01:19:45,810 --> 01:19:45,818
This is in no way an extraordinary circumstance.

1506
01:19:45,818 --> 01:19:47,785
There's no credible evidence that the parcel is not

1507
01:19:47,785 --> 01:19:50,368
suitable for agriculture or that the proximity to the cemetery

1508
01:19:50,368 --> 01:19:51,781
makes forming suboptimal.

1509
01:19:51,781 --> 01:19:55,545
And if truth be known, the buried pipeline

1510
01:19:55,545 --> 01:19:58,365
does not traverse the property as claimed by the applicant.

1511
01:19:58,365 --> 01:20:00,373
The applicant also claims the need

1512
01:20:00,373 --> 01:20:03,231
to preserve two property rights.

1513
01:20:03,231 --> 01:20:07,431
First, the right to split the parcel

1514
01:20:08,750 --> 01:20:10,708
to bring it into consistency with other similar

1515
01:20:10,708 --> 01:20:12,583
sized residential properties in the vicinity.

1516
01:20:12,583 --> 01:20:17,983
Two, the right to create a sub residential parcel

1517
01:20:18,832 --> 01:20:20,457
because farming is not a viable option.

1518
01:20:20,457 --> 01:20:22,999
Farming would put an unnecessary strain on the areas of water

1519
01:20:22,999 --> 01:20:25,525
supply, and because of farming, farming

1520
01:20:25,525 --> 01:20:28,525
would detract from the efficiency

1521
01:20:32,645 --> 01:20:35,225
and sustainability of neighboring farms,

1522
01:20:35,225 --> 01:20:37,185
your board knows that.

1523
01:20:37,185 --> 01:20:40,101
Owning a subdivided partial does not afford the property owner

1524
01:20:40,101 --> 01:20:41,528
the right to divide the property.

1525
01:20:41,528 --> 01:20:43,861
You also know there's no credible evidence in the record

1526
01:20:43,861 --> 01:20:45,569
that the parcel is unproductive farmland.

1527
01:20:45,569 --> 01:20:48,615
You have no proof that the farming of the parcel

1528
01:20:48,615 --> 01:20:51,425
would place a strain on the area's limited water resources

1529
01:20:51,425 --> 01:20:54,245
or detract from the efficiency or accessibility

1530
01:20:54,245 --> 01:20:56,645
of the surrounding farms.

1531
01:21:03,177 --> 01:21:04,374
>> Thank you.

1532
01:21:04,374 --> 01:21:05,666
>> In conclusion, one sentence.

1533
01:21:05,666 --> 01:21:09,637
There is no credible evidence in the record to support the need

1534
01:21:09,637 --> 01:21:15,370
that there is -- to support a substantial property.

1535
01:21:21,485 --> 01:21:23,485
>> Hello.

1536
01:21:23,787 --> 01:21:26,172
I'm Evelyn Beisel and I have a letter from a person who

1537
01:21:26,172 --> 01:21:27,255
wants to remain anonymous.

1538
01:21:27,255 --> 01:21:27,399
I'll read it quickly.

1539
01:21:27,399 --> 01:21:30,250
Dear Fresno Board of Supervisors, the Sunset Acres

1540
01:21:30,250 --> 01:21:33,349
event opened in 2022 and has hosted 100 plus events

1541
01:21:33,349 --> 01:21:35,749
since opening without a conditional use permit.

1542
01:21:35,749 --> 01:21:37,745
They are serving alcohol and law enforcement

1543
01:21:37,745 --> 01:21:42,625
has been called an estimated 50% of the events for various noise

1544
01:21:42,625 --> 01:21:44,741
complaints and physical altercations.

1545
01:21:44,741 --> 01:21:48,121
As well as them continuing to be untruthful

1546
01:21:48,121 --> 01:21:51,550
to the numerous County of Fresno departments

1547
01:21:51,550 --> 01:21:55,335
that they have communicated with neighbors and law enforcement

1548
01:21:55,335 --> 01:21:56,325
personnel.

1549
01:21:56,325 --> 01:21:59,837
I'm not sure how this continues to happen.

1550
01:21:59,837 --> 01:22:01,935
There are multiple signed petitions

1551
01:22:01,935 --> 01:22:04,935
by the neighbors, photographic evidence,

1552
01:22:04,950 --> 01:22:09,605
video evidence, logs of the call to emergency response agencies,

1553
01:22:09,605 --> 01:22:15,370
and also a denial that a county of Fresno Board of Supervisors

1554
01:22:15,370 --> 01:22:16,755
of the application.

1555
01:22:16,755 --> 01:22:19,490
In most cases, and event facility

1556
01:22:19,490 --> 01:22:21,157
that continues to operate in this manner

1557
01:22:21,157 --> 01:22:23,740
would either be locked by Sheriff's department

1558
01:22:23,740 --> 01:22:25,125
or the owner arrested for continued violations,

1559
01:22:25,125 --> 01:22:27,464
lies and disregarding the orders.

1560
01:22:27,464 --> 01:22:29,600
Where do we go from here?

1561
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:30,645
Do the residents of Fowler and Fresno

1562
01:22:30,645 --> 01:22:33,749
County to take legal action to get this issue resolved?

1563
01:22:33,749 --> 01:22:36,872
Who is paying for each time the law enforcement is

1564
01:22:36,872 --> 01:22:39,205
being called out for repeated violations of the Advanced

1565
01:22:39,205 --> 01:22:39,705
Center?

1566
01:22:39,705 --> 01:22:41,845
Has the owner agreed to pay for this?

1567
01:22:41,845 --> 01:22:44,845
Will the county enforcement Department

1568
01:22:45,265 --> 01:22:47,878
need to work overtime to be called 11 p.m.

1569
01:22:47,878 --> 01:22:50,305
On Saturday nights to say that the party is taking place?

1570
01:22:50,305 --> 01:22:52,631
They have had events all nights on the weeks

1571
01:22:52,631 --> 01:22:56,161
and even on Saturday nights events have lasted until 10 p.m.

1572
01:22:56,161 --> 01:22:57,839
Or later.

1573
01:22:57,839 --> 01:23:00,839
Who is in charge here?

1574
01:23:03,663 --> 01:23:04,413
Where does it end?

1575
01:23:04,413 --> 01:23:04,424
Will they actually stick to the event dates that are allowed

1576
01:23:04,424 --> 01:23:05,196
and the hours from 4 to 10 p.m.?

1577
01:23:05,196 --> 01:23:06,925
Is there adequate fire protection

1578
01:23:06,925 --> 01:23:09,365
for the storage barn that has numerous commercial air

1579
01:23:09,365 --> 01:23:11,771
conditioning units attached to it?

1580
01:23:11,771 --> 01:23:17,771
How would they feel when their water table level drops

1581
01:23:19,685 --> 01:23:23,285
from the venue-- between the hundreds

1582
01:23:25,622 --> 01:23:27,955
if not thousands of shrubs, and bushes and trees planted

1583
01:23:27,955 --> 01:23:28,563
on the property in the last four years,

1584
01:23:28,563 --> 01:23:30,563
how much water is being used to keep them alive?

1585
01:23:30,563 --> 01:23:33,461
To the property taxes paid in the last four years in operation

1586
01:23:33,461 --> 01:23:36,461
reflect all the improvements made?

1587
01:23:37,205 --> 01:23:42,850
How did the restrooms and septic systems on the property

1588
01:23:42,850 --> 01:23:43,781
handle 400 plus people per week?

1589
01:23:43,781 --> 01:23:46,463
Do they have permits that this is taking place?

1590
01:23:46,463 --> 01:23:49,500
And now you can see the concerns that the residents of Fowler

1591
01:23:49,500 --> 01:23:51,405
and Fresno County have--

1592
01:23:56,281 --> 01:23:58,281
and have general concern for the quality of life

1593
01:23:58,281 --> 01:23:58,289
we now enjoy in Fowler and Fresno County.

1594
01:23:58,289 --> 01:23:58,509
The people have spoken.

1595
01:23:58,509 --> 01:23:59,338
Thank you.

1596
01:23:59,338 --> 01:24:01,338
Lifelong Fowler resident.

1597
01:24:09,730 --> 01:24:11,267
>> Thank you.

1598
01:24:11,267 --> 01:24:13,267
Anyone else?

1599
01:24:18,394 --> 01:24:19,133
>> Good morning.

1600
01:24:19,133 --> 01:24:20,133
My name is Barbara Bray.

1601
01:24:20,133 --> 01:24:20,588
I live at 9403 South Claremont Avenue in Fowler.

1602
01:24:20,588 --> 01:24:22,377
I will be brief.

1603
01:24:22,377 --> 01:24:25,365
At the previous meeting of the Planning Commission on Sunset

1604
01:24:25,365 --> 01:24:27,675
Acres was told to cease and desist their events.

1605
01:24:27,675 --> 01:24:31,190
They never did until the last meeting when the 5 to 0

1606
01:24:31,190 --> 01:24:32,438
vote was against them.

1607
01:24:32,438 --> 01:24:35,517
Last year, we were encouraged to film and document

1608
01:24:35,517 --> 01:24:40,317
the steady stream of loud and illegal events.

1609
01:24:44,877 --> 01:24:47,252
When my friend and I pulled off the road to take pictures

1610
01:24:47,252 --> 01:24:47,571
one evening, a big white pickup truck pulled around

1611
01:24:47,571 --> 01:24:49,499
and a man said, do you need help?

1612
01:24:49,499 --> 01:24:52,499
I said no, thank you.

1613
01:24:52,775 --> 01:24:56,375
He then said, you're not fine.

1614
01:24:56,525 --> 01:24:58,407
I know who you are.

1615
01:24:58,407 --> 01:25:00,613
He didn't know me.

1616
01:25:00,613 --> 01:25:02,637
I had never been there to take pictures,

1617
01:25:02,637 --> 01:25:04,381
and I've never seen him before.

1618
01:25:04,381 --> 01:25:07,221
He proceeded to spin around and pull up to us within inches

1619
01:25:07,221 --> 01:25:09,220
and shine bright lights in our faces.

1620
01:25:09,220 --> 01:25:11,355
These two items were at the beginning of his harassment.

1621
01:25:11,355 --> 01:25:14,533
As he followed us super close for about two miles south

1622
01:25:14,533 --> 01:25:17,565
on Fowler Avenue, until we pulled over and then

1623
01:25:17,565 --> 01:25:19,965
he followed us back.

1624
01:25:23,924 --> 01:25:26,257
We finally pulled over at the interstate and called 911.

1625
01:25:26,257 --> 01:25:32,257
He circled, rolled his window down and yelled, damn bitches.

1626
01:25:36,583 --> 01:25:38,166
We ended at the Fowler Police station.

1627
01:25:38,166 --> 01:25:38,886
One officer followed him out of downtown

1628
01:25:38,886 --> 01:25:40,618
and pulled him over just to hear him say

1629
01:25:40,618 --> 01:25:41,805
that he was just going home.

1630
01:25:41,805 --> 01:25:44,225
When I told the officer, I didn't

1631
01:25:44,225 --> 01:25:47,193
know who it was, the officer said it's him.

1632
01:25:47,193 --> 01:25:49,538
The owner of Sunset Acres.

1633
01:25:49,538 --> 01:25:52,754
We showed the officer photos of his license plate,

1634
01:25:52,754 --> 01:25:55,565
and they transferred our videos documenting that event.

1635
01:25:55,565 --> 01:25:57,380
Despite the good things they say,

1636
01:25:57,380 --> 01:25:58,613
and you've heard this is the way they

1637
01:25:58,613 --> 01:26:03,413
treat their neighbors with anger, harassment and threats.

1638
01:26:07,466 --> 01:26:13,466
The Cosas bought up property from Donny and Kellie Wiggins,

1639
01:26:14,626 --> 01:26:16,459
who are good friends of ours 15 years or so.

1640
01:26:16,459 --> 01:26:20,215
We both raised beautiful alpacas in our barns,

1641
01:26:20,215 --> 01:26:22,515
and we played pickleball with them on the weekends.

1642
01:26:22,515 --> 01:26:27,315
As the closest -- it was agriculturally vacant.

1643
01:26:28,407 --> 01:26:33,207
Thanks for this opportunity to speak, hoping you

1644
01:26:36,556 --> 01:26:38,139
will honor the importance of following

1645
01:26:38,139 --> 01:26:40,514
the rules and regulations of running a business in Fresno

1646
01:26:40,514 --> 01:26:42,514
County.

1647
01:26:44,544 --> 01:26:46,544
>> Thank you.

1648
01:26:46,787 --> 01:26:48,572
>> I have copies.

1649
01:26:48,572 --> 01:26:52,172
>> Anyone else that wishes to speak?

1650
01:26:57,645 --> 01:26:59,600
>> Thank you for allowing me to speak.

1651
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:00,850
I live on Claremont in Fowler.

1652
01:27:00,850 --> 01:27:01,766
I respectfully ask the board to deny the CPU for the sunset.

1653
01:27:01,766 --> 01:27:03,716
My concerns are not personal.

1654
01:27:03,716 --> 01:27:06,885
They are based on first hand observations.

1655
01:27:06,885 --> 01:27:11,685
From 23 to May of 26, I observed approximately 100 events.

1656
01:27:13,543 --> 01:27:17,743
The impact of increased traffic is noticeable.

1657
01:27:20,632 --> 01:27:22,700
A road reflector has been removed

1658
01:27:22,700 --> 01:27:27,407
in a driveway added to accommodate large scale events.

1659
01:27:27,412 --> 01:27:31,766
The light pollution goes beyond the property line.

1660
01:27:31,766 --> 01:27:35,366
Noise has been my primary concern.

1661
01:27:36,930 --> 01:27:42,330
From my backyard, I have been able to hear

1662
01:27:43,796 --> 01:27:47,996
amplified music and explicit lyrics from events.

1663
01:27:51,575 --> 01:27:54,562
For example, I've heard the song,

1664
01:27:54,562 --> 01:27:54,570
what's your Fantasy by Ludacris from my property.

1665
01:27:54,570 --> 01:27:57,237
Event trash is often seen along the roadside or at the vineyard.

1666
01:27:57,237 --> 01:28:02,370
The neighboring farmer may feel uncomfortable or be

1667
01:28:05,209 --> 01:28:07,209
hindered when (Indistinct).

1668
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,552
With this event center affect the desirability and property,

1669
01:28:17,552 --> 01:28:17,834
the value of surrounding properties?

1670
01:28:17,834 --> 01:28:19,302
Who is accountable for this?

1671
01:28:19,302 --> 01:28:23,487
I wonder how events will be monitored in the future?

1672
01:28:23,487 --> 01:28:29,487
As stated by Mrs. Kosa at the June 2025 Commissioners meeting,

1673
01:28:34,330 --> 01:28:37,765
the Sunset Acres is not our bread and butter, and quote.

1674
01:28:37,765 --> 01:28:40,450
Sounds more like a hobby for them.

1675
01:28:40,450 --> 01:28:41,895
It does not affect their livelihood.

1676
01:28:41,895 --> 01:28:44,895
One interesting observation I've made

1677
01:28:45,266 --> 01:28:49,466
is that the Cosas have already leveled

1678
01:28:52,424 --> 01:28:54,382
the prepare the land they would like to parcel,

1679
01:28:54,382 --> 01:28:56,215
and that makes me very presumptuous of them.

1680
01:28:56,215 --> 01:29:01,150
And also are being sued by the county

1681
01:29:04,726 --> 01:29:05,893
for not following the rules.

1682
01:29:05,893 --> 01:29:06,171
Approving this teaches them that the rules

1683
01:29:06,171 --> 01:29:09,409
don't apply if you're willing to withstand a slap on the wrist.

1684
01:29:09,409 --> 01:29:11,285
Thank you for your time.

1685
01:29:11,285 --> 01:29:14,885
>> Anyone else who wishes to speak?

1686
01:29:19,198 --> 01:29:21,198
>> Good morning.

1687
01:29:22,281 --> 01:29:23,438
My name is Rod.

1688
01:29:23,438 --> 01:29:25,605
I've lived there since 1983 at 9254 South Claremont.

1689
01:29:25,605 --> 01:29:31,500
In the past, one time I got a petition,

1690
01:29:39,659 --> 01:29:41,153
a notification that somebody wanted

1691
01:29:41,153 --> 01:29:41,159
to do a variance on property.

1692
01:29:41,159 --> 01:29:41,951
It was to the west.

1693
01:29:41,951 --> 01:29:45,238
I looked at it and it didn't concern me or bother me.

1694
01:29:45,238 --> 01:29:48,650
I can't remember what it was about,

1695
01:29:48,650 --> 01:29:51,650
but I got the notification.

1696
01:29:57,580 --> 01:30:01,258
We have never received the notification, ever.

1697
01:30:06,870 --> 01:30:10,290
They have been there for four years.

1698
01:30:10,290 --> 01:30:12,429
You've heard it all.

1699
01:30:12,856 --> 01:30:14,606
We haven't received any information since.

1700
01:30:14,606 --> 01:30:16,106
We have no notifications or nobody's

1701
01:30:16,106 --> 01:30:19,891
coming to talk to us about what can be done.

1702
01:30:19,891 --> 01:30:23,491
They printed here, the lights don't

1703
01:30:28,150 --> 01:30:29,640
shine down here they said they're going

1704
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:33,240
to put the lights shining down.

1705
01:30:34,524 --> 01:30:36,156
They shine out, they're LEDs.

1706
01:30:36,156 --> 01:30:37,198
They're extremely bright.

1707
01:30:37,198 --> 01:30:43,198
They're not like the mercury or the high pressure sodium.

1708
01:30:45,222 --> 01:30:47,805
Also, They built the building venue with a permit for storage.

1709
01:30:47,805 --> 01:30:49,941
That's how they got it built. They

1710
01:30:49,941 --> 01:30:54,741
talk about the antiquity of the houses there,

1711
01:31:04,570 --> 01:31:08,857
But I've seen venues that use old barns.

1712
01:31:13,418 --> 01:31:15,757
And they just tore the barn down.

1713
01:31:15,757 --> 01:31:21,157
It would have been-- the noise is really bad.

1714
01:31:23,668 --> 01:31:25,585
The lights are worse because they point south,

1715
01:31:25,585 --> 01:31:27,430
and they have indicated other times

1716
01:31:27,430 --> 01:31:30,900
that it's one of the reasons we receive a lot of noise,

1717
01:31:30,900 --> 01:31:33,461
we found out it's coming out that they aim

1718
01:31:33,461 --> 01:31:35,650
the speakers to the southwest.

1719
01:31:35,650 --> 01:31:37,465
That's where we are.

1720
01:31:41,182 --> 01:31:44,249
I don't know why we should be subjected to this.

1721
01:31:44,249 --> 01:31:49,649
Maybe the gentleman that lives catty corner from them,

1722
01:31:51,858 --> 01:31:54,525
maybe they claimed the speakers at him since he likes the noise.

1723
01:31:54,525 --> 01:31:59,870
But I never properly started in a proper manner,

1724
01:31:59,870 --> 01:32:00,420
they have lawyers in the family.

1725
01:32:00,420 --> 01:32:02,181
They know what's proper.

1726
01:32:02,181 --> 01:32:06,981
They just went ahead and, what is it?

1727
01:32:16,422 --> 01:32:17,890
Beg forgiveness?

1728
01:32:17,890 --> 01:32:17,980
I don't think we should forgive them for this.

1729
01:32:17,980 --> 01:32:18,181
It's not their livelihood.

1730
01:32:18,181 --> 01:32:20,181
>> Thank you.

1731
01:32:22,533 --> 01:32:25,533
Anyone else wishes to speak?

1732
01:32:25,688 --> 01:32:27,194
>> Hello.

1733
01:32:27,194 --> 01:32:30,967
My name is Laura and I live at 9282 South Claremont.

1734
01:32:30,967 --> 01:32:31,641
Thank you for the time to voice my concerns about the business.

1735
01:32:31,641 --> 01:32:33,766
The Sunset Acres were told to stop operating during

1736
01:32:33,766 --> 01:32:36,871
the Planning Commission meeting on June 26th, 2025.

1737
01:32:36,871 --> 01:32:40,851
But they did not appear during the Planning Commission meeting

1738
01:32:40,851 --> 01:32:45,858
on June 18th 2026, they stated they only had one event

1739
01:32:45,858 --> 01:32:47,158
in February 2026.

1740
01:32:47,158 --> 01:32:49,371
This is not true.

1741
01:32:49,371 --> 01:32:52,871
They had over a dozen events throughout that time frame.

1742
01:32:52,871 --> 01:32:55,769
The last event was on May 31st, 2026.

1743
01:32:55,769 --> 01:33:00,569
Like others said, the lights are very bright.

1744
01:33:02,885 --> 01:33:08,816
They have recently moved parking lot lights from the north side

1745
01:33:08,816 --> 01:33:13,616
to the south side, but I asked them

1746
01:33:14,643 --> 01:33:15,810
to do that 2 or 3 years ago.

1747
01:33:15,810 --> 01:33:16,310
Why now?

1748
01:33:16,310 --> 01:33:19,310
Because they want their CUP.

1749
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,488
The noise this business has to conduct a field study.

1750
01:33:23,488 --> 01:33:23,589
It stated that the noise will not have

1751
01:33:23,589 --> 01:33:24,277
an impact on the neighbors.

1752
01:33:24,277 --> 01:33:25,789
It is disturbing my peace.

1753
01:33:25,789 --> 01:33:27,185
I can hear DJ announcements.

1754
01:33:27,185 --> 01:33:30,149
I can hear music that sometimes contains bad language.

1755
01:33:30,149 --> 01:33:31,853
The Sunset acres said that they monitor

1756
01:33:31,853 --> 01:33:33,565
the music with noise meters.

1757
01:33:33,565 --> 01:33:36,525
However, there is no one monitoring the sunset.

1758
01:33:36,525 --> 01:33:39,505
Some events have lasted until 12 a.m..

1759
01:33:39,505 --> 01:33:45,597
The sunset Acres said that this was an existing event facility.

1760
01:33:45,597 --> 01:33:47,570
This is not true.

1761
01:33:47,570 --> 01:33:49,485
The Sunset Acres bought this property a few years ago

1762
01:33:49,485 --> 01:33:51,305
and they created this event facility

1763
01:33:51,305 --> 01:33:54,305
before obtaining the proper permits.

1764
01:33:57,648 --> 01:34:00,181
I've never owned a business before,

1765
01:34:00,181 --> 01:34:02,389
and I even know that I have to get a permit to do it.

1766
01:34:02,389 --> 01:34:02,758
Even with simple research.

1767
01:34:02,758 --> 01:34:04,338
The Sunset Acres have said that this property

1768
01:34:04,338 --> 01:34:05,546
was agriculturally abandoned.

1769
01:34:05,546 --> 01:34:06,885
This is not true.

1770
01:34:06,885 --> 01:34:08,816
It was owned by people that lived in the home

1771
01:34:08,816 --> 01:34:10,858
and had alpacas and kept the property maintained.

1772
01:34:10,858 --> 01:34:12,741
This business should not be allowed to operate.

1773
01:34:12,741 --> 01:34:14,545
When I tell people that they are operating

1774
01:34:14,545 --> 01:34:17,657
without the proper permits, they do not feel it is right or fair.

1775
01:34:17,657 --> 01:34:19,115
Businesses in the community tell me

1776
01:34:19,115 --> 01:34:21,470
they do not feel comfortable signing the petition

1777
01:34:21,470 --> 01:34:23,933
in opposition because they fear retaliation

1778
01:34:23,933 --> 01:34:24,965
on their livelihoods.

1779
01:34:24,965 --> 01:34:26,717
This is not right.

1780
01:34:26,717 --> 01:34:29,245
It appears they don't have to follow the rules unless they

1781
01:34:29,245 --> 01:34:30,500
are forced.

1782
01:34:30,500 --> 01:34:32,675
Everyone must follow the rules and regulations,

1783
01:34:32,675 --> 01:34:35,205
which they have not been.

1784
01:34:35,205 --> 01:34:37,205
>> Anyone else?

1785
01:34:39,444 --> 01:34:45,444
I'm going to bring it back to comments or questions.

1786
01:34:58,380 --> 01:35:01,230
>> Mr. Mata, what are some of the original conditions that you

1787
01:35:01,230 --> 01:35:03,188
told them they had to do, and what did they do?

1788
01:35:03,188 --> 01:35:05,188
Like the lighting.

1789
01:35:07,231 --> 01:35:09,648
>> Large zoning required them that had to be directed away

1790
01:35:09,648 --> 01:35:09,652
from the surrounding properties.

1791
01:35:09,652 --> 01:35:10,631
That's a requirement in the zoning ordinance now.

1792
01:35:10,631 --> 01:35:12,708
If either through complaints or inspections

1793
01:35:12,708 --> 01:35:15,849
shows that's not the case, we need to move the lighting around

1794
01:35:15,849 --> 01:35:17,898
so it's not causing glare on the properties.

1795
01:35:17,898 --> 01:35:20,898
There's noise mitigation that's attached

1796
01:35:21,105 --> 01:35:25,905
to this project that requires noise metering, direction

1797
01:35:30,308 --> 01:35:32,308
of the speakers.

1798
01:35:32,778 --> 01:35:32,787
We've added conditions to require them to cease operation

1799
01:35:32,787 --> 01:35:33,287
by 10 p.m.

1800
01:35:33,287 --> 01:35:37,701
For outdoor events, and then cleanup ends by 12.

1801
01:35:37,701 --> 01:35:43,450
In general, we were looking at the outdoor noise impacts,

1802
01:35:43,450 --> 01:35:45,765
trying to do things that we've heard neighbors concerns on.

1803
01:35:45,765 --> 01:35:47,851
Timing and noise mitigation, those

1804
01:35:47,851 --> 01:35:52,510
are the things that we have added

1805
01:35:52,468 --> 01:35:58,452
as far as conditions of approval in the course of lighting.

1806
01:35:58,452 --> 01:36:01,759
>> So they basically did what you told them they had to do?

1807
01:36:01,759 --> 01:36:03,509
>> Our understanding, as far as operating,

1808
01:36:03,509 --> 01:36:06,897
I can't speak to that, although we know there's been read policy

1809
01:36:06,897 --> 01:36:09,522
service out there, and code enforcement has been involved

1810
01:36:09,522 --> 01:36:10,405
with that.

1811
01:36:10,405 --> 01:36:12,845
But we do have conditions to try to address those.

1812
01:36:12,845 --> 01:36:15,845
>> Prior to the Planning Commission,

1813
01:36:21,547 --> 01:36:26,216
because this is basically, can you make the findings?

1814
01:36:26,216 --> 01:36:28,716
I'm going to use finding one of the size of the proposed use

1815
01:36:28,716 --> 01:36:36,516
is adequate in size and shape to accommodate the use of all yard

1816
01:36:37,333 --> 01:36:39,733
spaces, walls and parking.

1817
01:36:42,931 --> 01:36:43,723
Did they meet that?

1818
01:36:43,723 --> 01:36:43,966
>> Staff was able to make those findings.

1819
01:36:43,966 --> 01:36:45,453
There's overflow parking available on the site

1820
01:36:45,453 --> 01:36:47,525
to deal with extra folks as long as they're not

1821
01:36:47,525 --> 01:36:52,325
exceeding the total number and the OP statement,

1822
01:36:58,763 --> 01:37:01,180
staff reviewed the site plan and there's adequate parking.

1823
01:37:01,180 --> 01:37:05,540
>> Finding two sets the site for proposed use relates to streets,

1824
01:37:05,540 --> 01:37:11,540
highways adequate in width and pavement type to carry Quantity

1825
01:37:18,374 --> 01:37:20,374
of the traffic.

1826
01:37:21,392 --> 01:37:23,792
Did they meet that?

1827
01:37:24,890 --> 01:37:25,289
>> Yes, they did.

1828
01:37:25,289 --> 01:37:25,895
The only condition that came out of this

1829
01:37:25,895 --> 01:37:25,904
is that they need to do a traffic management

1830
01:37:25,904 --> 01:37:25,912
plan for events that they work with road

1831
01:37:25,912 --> 01:37:27,485
maintenance and operations Division to submit those plans.

1832
01:37:27,485 --> 01:37:29,695
>> The proposed use will not have any adverse impact

1833
01:37:29,695 --> 01:37:33,485
on abutting property and the surrounding neighborhood

1834
01:37:33,485 --> 01:37:36,245
for allowed to use there are?

1835
01:37:36,245 --> 01:37:42,845
>> Staff was able to make that finding based on the mitigation

1836
01:37:45,930 --> 01:37:47,930
measures and conditions.

1837
01:37:52,270 --> 01:37:54,110
>> And the last one is the proposed development is

1838
01:37:54,110 --> 01:37:54,115
consistent with the General Plan.

1839
01:37:54,115 --> 01:37:56,365
>> Staff is able to make that finding event centers is

1840
01:37:56,365 --> 01:38:01,765
permitted with the conditional use permit now in agricultural

1841
01:38:03,687 --> 01:38:06,620
zone districts, there are a number of them in the county.

1842
01:38:06,620 --> 01:38:12,662
>> Anyone else have >> Mr. Mata, one of the resident says they

1843
01:38:17,859 --> 01:38:19,626
didn't receive any notification.

1844
01:38:19,626 --> 01:38:24,428
Did we send notifications for this kind of thing?

1845
01:38:24,428 --> 01:38:24,928
>> We do.

1846
01:38:24,928 --> 01:38:24,931
A quarter mile.

1847
01:38:24,931 --> 01:38:27,181
>> Everyone within a quarter mile should have received

1848
01:38:27,181 --> 01:38:29,181
notification?

1849
01:38:37,173 --> 01:38:39,780
>> That's correct.

1850
01:38:39,780 --> 01:38:42,678
>> Also on the agenda item, is they want to split the property

1851
01:38:42,678 --> 01:38:44,261
in two is that correct that's correct.

1852
01:38:44,261 --> 01:38:44,473
The applicant requested to do that so they could separate

1853
01:38:44,473 --> 01:38:46,771
the event facility from their other part of the parcel

1854
01:38:46,771 --> 01:38:52,171
so they want to build a house on their.

1855
01:38:58,163 --> 01:39:00,586
>> Staff was able to make the findings for the variance.

1856
01:39:00,586 --> 01:39:03,860
>> Did they build significant portion of this without proper

1857
01:39:03,860 --> 01:39:03,880
permits they're?

1858
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:03,910
>> There was.

1859
01:39:03,910 --> 01:39:03,176
Activity occurred without permit.

1860
01:39:03,176 --> 01:39:04,925
They do have permits and process.

1861
01:39:04,925 --> 01:39:07,711
They aren't all final because it's pending.

1862
01:39:07,711 --> 01:39:10,511
>> So they have been out and inspected and they've passed all

1863
01:39:10,511 --> 01:39:11,207
of those?

1864
01:39:11,207 --> 01:39:13,165
>> We haven't completed all of the inspections,

1865
01:39:13,165 --> 01:39:16,345
but they do have permits in process and there's things like

1866
01:39:16,345 --> 01:39:18,345
the restrooms.

1867
01:39:25,660 --> 01:39:27,524
>> And my last question it's been stated several times that

1868
01:39:27,524 --> 01:39:29,857
during the Planning Commission, they were asked to stop,

1869
01:39:29,857 --> 01:39:35,257
but it seems other people said they kept going.

1870
01:39:35,302 --> 01:39:36,469
What do you know about that?

1871
01:39:36,469 --> 01:39:40,824
>> Those complaints would have gone to code enforcement.

1872
01:39:40,824 --> 01:39:42,449
We did check with the Sheriff's office.

1873
01:39:42,449 --> 01:39:47,849
They were calls of service from February-- mostly related

1874
01:39:51,273 --> 01:39:51,773
to noise.

1875
01:39:51,773 --> 01:39:53,523
So our understanding is there were events.

1876
01:39:53,523 --> 01:40:01,323
I don't know how many, but there were calls to service out there.

1877
01:40:01,418 --> 01:40:04,493
>> I have one of these in my district.

1878
01:40:04,493 --> 01:40:05,541
We have similar concerns.

1879
01:40:05,541 --> 01:40:07,830
We put several measures against that.

1880
01:40:07,830 --> 01:40:11,883
I'm assuming this is a conditional use permit?

1881
01:40:14,752 --> 01:40:15,903
>> Correct.

1882
01:40:15,903 --> 01:40:21,303
>> What are the ramifications if they violate our conditions.

1883
01:40:22,221 --> 01:40:24,175
What happens?

1884
01:40:24,175 --> 01:40:24,800
>> Revocations.

1885
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:26,800
We can bring it back to the decision making body

1886
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:31,600
to your board for if they don't comply.

1887
01:40:34,460 --> 01:40:36,168
>> And what sets the parameters for that?

1888
01:40:36,168 --> 01:40:36,173
>> Violation of any condition.

1889
01:40:36,173 --> 01:40:38,215
If we get complaints enforcement gets complaints,

1890
01:40:38,215 --> 01:40:44,815
they don't resolve the issue, then we can take it back.

1891
01:40:46,150 --> 01:40:47,765
>> My question more specifically would be,

1892
01:40:47,765 --> 01:40:47,777
how many more complaints would we have to get before it comes

1893
01:40:47,777 --> 01:40:47,778
back?

1894
01:40:47,778 --> 01:40:47,783
>> There isn't a number.

1895
01:40:47,783 --> 01:40:47,788
It could be one complaint.

1896
01:40:47,788 --> 01:40:48,885
If they're not operating.

1897
01:40:48,885 --> 01:40:53,685
>> So they're supposed to close down by ten,

1898
01:40:55,862 --> 01:40:58,700
and they stay open till midnight and a neighbor filed

1899
01:40:58,700 --> 01:41:00,470
a complaint, what happened?

1900
01:41:04,255 --> 01:41:05,713
>> Code enforcement contacted them,

1901
01:41:05,713 --> 01:41:05,721
and were contacted and it continues to happen,

1902
01:41:05,721 --> 01:41:06,400
then we would tell and send them a letter,

1903
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:08,365
we're going to revoke your use permit.

1904
01:41:08,365 --> 01:41:11,260
If it doesn't improve or if there's a pattern,

1905
01:41:11,260 --> 01:41:14,165
then we'll bring it back for revocation.

1906
01:41:14,165 --> 01:41:16,725
>> Because I think the one speaker said they just kept

1907
01:41:16,725 --> 01:41:21,780
going because there was no teeth or getting slapped on the wrist.

1908
01:41:21,780 --> 01:41:22,865
I can appreciate that.

1909
01:41:22,865 --> 01:41:27,650
I'd like to have a little teeth.

1910
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:34,599
The one in my district seems to be operating fairly well.

1911
01:41:34,599 --> 01:41:37,599
This is definitely more split.

1912
01:41:39,749 --> 01:41:44,285
We have half in favor and half opposed.

1913
01:41:44,285 --> 01:41:46,685
It's a tough call.

1914
01:41:48,685 --> 01:41:51,914
For those in opposition, for me, my only concern

1915
01:41:51,914 --> 01:41:53,539
is I'm willing to give people a chance.

1916
01:41:53,539 --> 01:41:53,547
It seems like they pushed the outer envelope

1917
01:41:53,547 --> 01:41:54,121
and even when they were supposed to they pushed anyway.

1918
01:41:54,121 --> 01:41:56,250
I don't really appreciate that.

1919
01:41:56,250 --> 01:42:00,485
I don't like that I think when you're asked to stop,

1920
01:42:00,485 --> 01:42:02,858
you're under review, you have to stop.

1921
01:42:02,858 --> 01:42:05,910
And if you think you're going to push the envelope

1922
01:42:05,910 --> 01:42:09,291
and keep going, that's just not right.

1923
01:42:14,162 --> 01:42:16,162
Not right.

1924
01:42:16,797 --> 01:42:20,757
For me, I like to have the applicant come forward

1925
01:42:20,757 --> 01:42:21,845
and answer that.

1926
01:42:21,845 --> 01:42:23,845
I would.

1927
01:42:24,158 --> 01:42:27,758
I want an answer to that.

1928
01:42:29,944 --> 01:42:32,306
>> I want to make sure that this is John Quincy again.

1929
01:42:32,306 --> 01:42:33,348
I'm bringing up Mr. Kosa.

1930
01:42:33,348 --> 01:42:33,359
I want to make sure that we're clear on the timeline.

1931
01:42:33,359 --> 01:42:33,564
After the Planning Commission, my understanding

1932
01:42:33,564 --> 01:42:34,421
is the event ceased.

1933
01:42:34,421 --> 01:42:37,770
There was actually an event that was scheduled,

1934
01:42:37,770 --> 01:42:39,911
it was for this month in August, and that

1935
01:42:39,911 --> 01:42:43,125
resulted in a very difficult conversation with the bride,

1936
01:42:43,125 --> 01:42:46,795
where she had to be refunded, damages were paid to her.

1937
01:42:46,795 --> 01:42:49,450
She unfortunately had to look for a different location

1938
01:42:49,450 --> 01:42:50,245
for her wedding.

1939
01:42:50,245 --> 01:42:54,445
So that ceased pending the outcome of this hearing.

1940
01:42:54,445 --> 01:43:00,445
>> You as an attorney, what is your justification for even

1941
01:43:01,578 --> 01:43:03,911
scheduling such a thing when you're not fully permitted?

1942
01:43:03,911 --> 01:43:08,111
>> Oftentimes, those are scheduled before these events

1943
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:11,953
arise to this level.

1944
01:43:11,953 --> 01:43:14,360
So unfortunately that happens, ultimately the Cosa

1945
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:15,203
made it right to the bride.

1946
01:43:15,203 --> 01:43:16,745
Since the planning commission meeting

1947
01:43:16,745 --> 01:43:19,429
I just want to make sure we're clear on the timeline.

1948
01:43:19,429 --> 01:43:21,235
Since the Planning Commission meeting,

1949
01:43:21,235 --> 01:43:23,365
there haven't been any events.

1950
01:43:23,365 --> 01:43:27,565
>> You're gonna state that for the record?

1951
01:43:32,786 --> 01:43:35,741
>> So if I go and bring the log in here,

1952
01:43:35,741 --> 01:43:35,748
they go out there and have events,

1953
01:43:35,748 --> 01:43:35,755
you're gonna state that they didn't occur?

1954
01:43:35,755 --> 01:43:36,780
>> There were no events.

1955
01:43:36,780 --> 01:43:41,850
I can't speak as far as calls for service.

1956
01:43:41,850 --> 01:43:47,850
>> Yes, there were no events and no share departments contacted

1957
01:43:47,353 --> 01:43:49,936
us as a family by any situations after the Planning Commission

1958
01:43:49,936 --> 01:43:50,445
meeting.

1959
01:43:50,445 --> 01:43:54,450
>> Let's be clear on that timeline,

1960
01:43:57,443 --> 01:43:59,901
because I feel like there was a planning commission meeting

1961
01:43:59,901 --> 01:43:59,913
a couple of months ago, but then there was 1 in 2025.

1962
01:43:59,913 --> 01:44:01,725
That was my understanding that in 2025, there

1963
01:44:01,725 --> 01:44:03,210
was a statement saying that activity

1964
01:44:03,210 --> 01:44:04,218
should cease and desist.

1965
01:44:04,218 --> 01:44:07,380
So to your point, just to make sure we're

1966
01:44:07,380 --> 01:44:08,538
talking about appropriate timelines,

1967
01:44:08,538 --> 01:44:09,913
are you saying there haven't been

1968
01:44:09,913 --> 01:44:14,713
any events since the summer of 2025 until today?

1969
01:44:23,521 --> 01:44:24,460
>> No.

1970
01:44:24,460 --> 01:44:25,329
>> Go ahead.

1971
01:44:25,329 --> 01:44:26,204
When I was referring to the Planning Commission meeting,

1972
01:44:26,204 --> 01:44:26,212
I was referring to the Planning Commission meeting

1973
01:44:26,212 --> 01:44:26,217
a couple of months ago.

1974
01:44:26,217 --> 01:44:28,175
And since that time, there have been no events.

1975
01:44:28,175 --> 01:44:31,175
There were events prior, mid 2025,

1976
01:44:40,924 --> 01:44:42,716
that's something that the coaches have been

1977
01:44:42,716 --> 01:44:45,116
working through with staff.

1978
01:44:46,319 --> 01:44:48,861
They understood after the second Planning Commission meeting,

1979
01:44:48,861 --> 01:44:48,865
they needed to stop.

1980
01:44:48,865 --> 01:44:49,201
And they did until they ultimately

1981
01:44:49,201 --> 01:44:51,605
got their land use approval of the Board of Supervisors

1982
01:44:51,605 --> 01:44:53,125
pesticide.

1983
01:44:53,125 --> 01:44:59,125
>> I'm sure you're aware that the five up here have

1984
01:45:02,604 --> 01:45:04,952
a balancing act, and I believe every one of us believes

1985
01:45:04,952 --> 01:45:07,660
in personal property rights, you should be allowed to do what you

1986
01:45:07,660 --> 01:45:08,660
want with your property.

1987
01:45:08,660 --> 01:45:13,460
However, those of us in AG also believe

1988
01:45:17,213 --> 01:45:19,671
you shouldn't interfere with someone else's rights as well.

1989
01:45:19,671 --> 01:45:25,246
I hope your applicant-- and this is Supervisor Mendez district.

1990
01:45:25,246 --> 01:45:26,538
You will have the greatest say.

1991
01:45:26,538 --> 01:45:26,544
Just like we're given the greatest

1992
01:45:26,544 --> 01:45:26,641
courtesy in that district.

1993
01:45:26,641 --> 01:45:28,710
So whatever his recommendation is,

1994
01:45:28,710 --> 01:45:31,710
I'm prepared to support that.

1995
01:45:31,965 --> 01:45:37,965
However, if he is willing to give you the conditions

1996
01:45:38,590 --> 01:45:41,132
to meet as what happened in my district, if you violate that,

1997
01:45:41,132 --> 01:45:41,822
I'd be the first one to make a motion to take it away from you.

1998
01:45:41,822 --> 01:45:43,505
I don't care how much money you have

1999
01:45:43,505 --> 01:45:45,338
invested because you've been given a chance,

2000
01:45:45,338 --> 01:45:46,649
you've been told.

2001
01:45:46,649 --> 01:45:49,773
And if you violate that rule against the defiance

2002
01:45:49,773 --> 01:45:51,825
of the members of this board, then you

2003
01:45:51,825 --> 01:45:53,158
shouldn't be allowed to operate.

2004
01:45:53,158 --> 01:45:55,885
And I want to make that perfectly clear if you're given

2005
01:45:55,885 --> 01:45:57,220
the opportunity to go forward.

2006
01:45:57,220 --> 01:45:59,620
Do you understand that?

2007
01:46:08,926 --> 01:46:10,222
>> Yes, sir.

2008
01:46:10,222 --> 01:46:12,222
>> Then we're good.

2009
01:46:13,930 --> 01:46:14,935
>> Go ahead.

2010
01:46:14,935 --> 01:46:17,352
>> Briefly, I agree with what Supervisor Pacheco mentioned

2011
01:46:17,352 --> 01:46:17,362
with regards to us trying to balance the property rights

2012
01:46:17,362 --> 01:46:17,706
of individuals that are trying to make business

2013
01:46:17,706 --> 01:46:18,498
in their community.

2014
01:46:18,498 --> 01:46:23,305
What I'm trying to reconcile is, and I checked with our folks

2015
01:46:23,305 --> 01:46:24,538
from the city of.

2016
01:46:24,538 --> 01:46:26,229
There were a couple of references

2017
01:46:26,229 --> 01:46:30,830
made that the city of Falls was not supportive of this.

2018
01:46:30,830 --> 01:46:36,310
I asked them, in the city of Fowler does not oppose this.

2019
01:46:36,310 --> 01:46:38,893
I want to make sure that folks recognize that into the record.

2020
01:46:38,893 --> 01:46:38,925
When I checked, they said they had no complaints

2021
01:46:38,925 --> 01:46:40,653
about this property.

2022
01:46:40,653 --> 01:46:43,445
I agree with what Supervisor Pacheco mentioned.

2023
01:46:43,445 --> 01:46:46,164
I think you were trying to be a good neighbor.

2024
01:46:46,164 --> 01:46:47,831
You're trying to rectify a lot of things

2025
01:46:47,831 --> 01:46:50,831
that did not occur before.

2026
01:46:51,102 --> 01:46:57,160
I think Supervisor Mendez did a great job of going

2027
01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:58,849
through the checklist of what you satisfied,

2028
01:46:58,849 --> 01:46:58,860
and that would be in agreement of Supervisor Mendez would like

2029
01:46:58,860 --> 01:47:02,525
to give them an opportunity to do that with the expectation

2030
01:47:02,525 --> 01:47:07,325
that they would follow the conditional use permit,

2031
01:47:15,537 --> 01:47:19,737
criteria and everything that's outlined on there.

2032
01:47:21,942 --> 01:47:24,342
>> I have some questions.

2033
01:47:25,553 --> 01:47:27,553
>> No, it's closed.

2034
01:47:29,110 --> 01:47:30,889
You can't.

2035
01:47:30,889 --> 01:47:30,899
I share all of the concerns that supervisor Pacheco said,

2036
01:47:30,899 --> 01:47:31,935
and concern that I have is that there have been coded violations

2037
01:47:31,935 --> 01:47:34,285
over three years that they have been operating

2038
01:47:34,285 --> 01:47:36,685
without conditional use permit.

2039
01:47:37,852 --> 01:47:39,852
Is that correct?

2040
01:47:47,964 --> 01:47:49,582
>> That's correct.

2041
01:47:49,582 --> 01:47:50,668
There's a violation open on the property for operating

2042
01:47:50,668 --> 01:47:50,672
event center without permits.

2043
01:47:50,672 --> 01:47:50,680
Code enforcement has been actively involved in that,

2044
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:51,430
dealing with them.

2045
01:47:51,430 --> 01:47:56,830
>> So if they've been actively violating, not having permits.

2046
01:47:58,558 --> 01:48:00,516
How have we not shut them down for three years?

2047
01:48:00,516 --> 01:48:04,716
>> I can't speak to code enforcement actions.

2048
01:48:07,118 --> 01:48:09,760
Specifically code enforcement has been invited.

2049
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:09,830
There may be someone here that can

2050
01:48:09,830 --> 01:48:09,645
speak to enforcement ongoing investigations and interactions

2051
01:48:09,645 --> 01:48:10,645
with the property owner.

2052
01:48:10,645 --> 01:48:12,770
They are aware and we are aware of their activities

2053
01:48:12,770 --> 01:48:15,437
and code enforcement staff they speak at the Planning Commission

2054
01:48:15,437 --> 01:48:17,445
regarding their investigations on the site.

2055
01:48:17,445 --> 01:48:22,245
>> Anybody from code enforcement want to address it?

2056
01:48:34,358 --> 01:48:35,250
>> Good morning.

2057
01:48:35,250 --> 01:48:41,625
I'm here with El Harrison, who can speak for those items.

2058
01:48:45,617 --> 01:48:46,633
>> sure.

2059
01:48:46,633 --> 01:48:48,633
>> Good morning.

2060
01:48:48,688 --> 01:48:50,580
Thank you.

2061
01:48:50,580 --> 01:48:50,752
We filed an injunction and process for 8853 South Fowler,

2062
01:48:50,752 --> 01:48:50,757
also known as Sunset Acre.

2063
01:48:50,757 --> 01:48:51,924
It's in Wood County Council.

2064
01:48:51,924 --> 01:48:56,724
>> You filed an injunction to shut them down?

2065
01:48:59,981 --> 01:49:01,981
>> That is correct.

2066
01:49:04,888 --> 01:49:06,555
Injunction was filed in June 13th of 24.

2067
01:49:06,555 --> 01:49:08,513
It is still in process with the County Council.

2068
01:49:08,513 --> 01:49:11,325
They are in mediation with the attorneys for Sunset Acres.

2069
01:49:11,325 --> 01:49:15,525
>> So why has this taken two years?

2070
01:49:23,473 --> 01:49:25,473
June 2024.

2071
01:49:26,136 --> 01:49:27,803
>> I don't know why it's taking so long.

2072
01:49:27,803 --> 01:49:27,812
I know the temporary restraining order was last November.

2073
01:49:27,812 --> 01:49:27,820
The preliminary injunction which was just spoken up

2074
01:49:27,820 --> 01:49:29,280
is telling the court process.

2075
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:34,428
>> I think we have to do better than this.

2076
01:49:38,156 --> 01:49:42,356
We have people who have been complaining.

2077
01:49:46,604 --> 01:49:47,984
The I'm troubled by this.

2078
01:49:47,984 --> 01:49:50,317
It feels like we've allowed people to operate illegally.

2079
01:49:50,317 --> 01:49:52,717
And here we are.

2080
01:49:53,514 --> 01:49:55,560
They're asking to now operate legally

2081
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:56,889
after operating illegally for several years.

2082
01:49:56,889 --> 01:49:59,889
That's quite troubling to me.

2083
01:50:03,138 --> 01:50:04,971
It feels like somehow we've let down people.

2084
01:50:04,971 --> 01:50:09,171
I think we need to own that.

2085
01:50:12,990 --> 01:50:13,822
In terms of the conditional use permit--

2086
01:50:13,822 --> 01:50:17,262
let me ask you this question.

2087
01:50:17,262 --> 01:50:17,275
It says in the staff report that when they went to the Planning

2088
01:50:17,275 --> 01:50:17,282
Commission, a motion was made to deny

2089
01:50:17,282 --> 01:50:18,782
the applications due to an inability

2090
01:50:18,782 --> 01:50:24,782
to make any of the required findings for the UCUP

2091
01:50:28,756 --> 01:50:30,548
nor the required findings for the variance.

2092
01:50:30,548 --> 01:50:30,557
At that time, were the findings were not there,

2093
01:50:30,557 --> 01:50:30,565
but they're saying the findings are there today?

2094
01:50:30,565 --> 01:50:32,273
>> The Planning Commission disagrees with

2095
01:50:32,273 --> 01:50:34,125
staff's recommendation on testimony.

2096
01:50:34,125 --> 01:50:36,135
They received in the the permit.

2097
01:50:36,135 --> 01:50:38,535
Ours is a recommendation.

2098
01:50:38,945 --> 01:50:44,945
They chose to not be able to make those findings.

2099
01:50:51,706 --> 01:50:53,414
>> So the Planning commission's findings.

2100
01:50:53,414 --> 01:50:53,417
I got that.

2101
01:50:53,417 --> 01:50:53,424
On the conditional use permit, what limits

2102
01:50:53,424 --> 01:50:57,375
are you imposing on them in terms of time, operation, noise

2103
01:50:57,375 --> 01:51:00,205
to address the concerns of the neighbors?

2104
01:51:00,205 --> 01:51:05,605
>> We're limiting outdoor operations to cease at 10 p.m.

2105
01:51:08,290 --> 01:51:10,498
And there's noise mitigation to address On-Site noise

2106
01:51:10,498 --> 01:51:14,980
monitoring, at the speakers are turned.

2107
01:51:14,405 --> 01:51:19,850
Other mitigation measures to try to address those factors.

2108
01:51:19,850 --> 01:51:23,100
Based on the noise study that the applicants noise

2109
01:51:23,100 --> 01:51:25,410
analyst prepared, the application

2110
01:51:26,425 --> 01:51:28,791
did not violate our noise ordinance,

2111
01:51:28,791 --> 01:51:31,880
we were agreeable to the analysis that was provided.

2112
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:34,141
I will say that your board can further limit operations.

2113
01:51:34,141 --> 01:51:37,475
They can say no outdoor events.

2114
01:51:37,475 --> 01:51:40,130
Outdoor events can cease at 9 p.m.

2115
01:51:40,130 --> 01:51:42,685
And your board can also add staff

2116
01:51:42,685 --> 01:51:45,735
recommending two additional conditions of approval.

2117
01:51:45,735 --> 01:51:47,918
And the other is the community water system.

2118
01:51:47,918 --> 01:51:49,554
A third condition of approval could

2119
01:51:49,554 --> 01:51:52,425
be that if staff receives three validated complaints

2120
01:51:52,425 --> 01:51:55,589
for not operating within compliance of these permits,

2121
01:51:55,589 --> 01:51:57,758
that we bring it back to the decision

2122
01:51:57,758 --> 01:52:03,158
making body for revocation or whatever your board desires.

2123
01:52:09,756 --> 01:52:12,131
>> I also share the same feeling with Supervisor Pacheco.

2124
01:52:12,131 --> 01:52:13,631
I am very supportive of my colleague

2125
01:52:13,631 --> 01:52:16,205
and what he wants to do in his district.

2126
01:52:16,205 --> 01:52:20,405
I'm wondering, if some of these issues

2127
01:52:23,663 --> 01:52:25,380
around the conditional use permit

2128
01:52:25,380 --> 01:52:25,450
and their limitations and requirements of approving

2129
01:52:25,450 --> 01:52:27,300
the Conditional use permit, if there's some way

2130
01:52:27,300 --> 01:52:29,658
to have neighbors meet with the property owner

2131
01:52:29,658 --> 01:52:32,813
to come up with some agreed limitations

2132
01:52:32,813 --> 01:52:35,380
on the conditional use permit?

2133
01:52:35,380 --> 01:52:41,380
I don't know if that creates a problem for you.

2134
01:52:43,659 --> 01:52:45,659
No?

2135
01:52:45,971 --> 01:52:47,971
Okay.

2136
01:52:48,282 --> 01:52:50,599
I am concerned about this gentleman

2137
01:52:50,599 --> 01:52:52,932
having operated for several years without legal permits.

2138
01:52:52,932 --> 01:52:58,330
I do think we need to be sensitive to what

2139
01:52:58,330 --> 01:53:00,872
the neighbors are requesting and the concerns that they have.

2140
01:53:00,872 --> 01:53:06,872
With that, I'm looking forward to hearing from my colleague.

2141
01:53:08,900 --> 01:53:11,400
>> I asked Supervisor Pacheco, the one we were talking about

2142
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:15,600
before, because we put on extra limitations.

2143
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:22,480
>> I don't recall everything.

2144
01:53:22,518 --> 01:53:23,560
It was several years ago.

2145
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:23,713
Whatever we did to that, I would put on the exact same thing

2146
01:53:23,713 --> 01:53:25,273
here to be equal and to be fair.

2147
01:53:25,273 --> 01:53:27,890
And it seems to be working well for me

2148
01:53:27,890 --> 01:53:30,889
I have not had one complaint since we've done that.

2149
01:53:30,889 --> 01:53:33,125
There are neighbors that literally live next door

2150
01:53:33,125 --> 01:53:38,525
across the street, and they have been great neighbors

2151
01:53:43,916 --> 01:53:44,916
and abided by the rules.

2152
01:53:44,916 --> 01:53:44,989
I would like to put a similar on this property

2153
01:53:44,989 --> 01:53:46,197
based on what we heard today.

2154
01:53:46,197 --> 01:53:47,765
Are you familiar?

2155
01:53:47,765 --> 01:53:48,471
I am.

2156
01:53:48,471 --> 01:53:50,925
We took that approach with the application.

2157
01:53:50,925 --> 01:53:54,325
Initially the applicant requested later time.

2158
01:53:54,325 --> 01:53:56,373
Working through with this process,

2159
01:53:56,373 --> 01:53:59,290
and we can't speak to how late they have been operating

2160
01:53:59,290 --> 01:54:02,571
to date, but the approach we took was 10 p.m..

2161
01:54:02,571 --> 01:54:04,180
All events have to cease.

2162
01:54:04,180 --> 01:54:05,733
No more amplified music.

2163
01:54:05,733 --> 01:54:10,533
We do allow them two hours for cleanup.

2164
01:54:15,258 --> 01:54:18,930
So that falls very similar to what you described.

2165
01:54:18,930 --> 01:54:20,260
We anticipated that, given the amount of controversy

2166
01:54:20,260 --> 01:54:20,264
and complaints we received.

2167
01:54:20,264 --> 01:54:21,205
We scaled back their operation from what they originally

2168
01:54:21,205 --> 01:54:22,850
proposed.

2169
01:54:22,850 --> 01:54:27,485
>> And they still have to follow the noise ordinance.

2170
01:54:32,372 --> 01:54:32,872
>> They do.

2171
01:54:32,872 --> 01:54:32,880
And they're required to conduct sampling noise surveys

2172
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:32,885
while the activities are ongoing.

2173
01:54:32,885 --> 01:54:35,848
We have the ability to monitor what the noise levels are

2174
01:54:35,848 --> 01:54:37,645
as these events occur.

2175
01:54:37,645 --> 01:54:41,255
To Chris's point, if we get validated complaints

2176
01:54:41,255 --> 01:54:44,795
that they're not following their rules or conditions,

2177
01:54:44,795 --> 01:54:49,157
and they've heard pretty clearly that this board will not

2178
01:54:49,157 --> 01:54:52,157
hesitate to resend that permit.

2179
01:54:54,460 --> 01:54:59,446
And I know the neighbors will be monitoring that.

2180
01:55:05,828 --> 01:55:06,745
>> I'm okay with that.

2181
01:55:06,745 --> 01:55:10,289
>> I'll actually familiar with the area.

2182
01:55:10,289 --> 01:55:14,130
>> And I think they understand we take that away

2183
01:55:14,130 --> 01:55:14,755
in a heartbeat.

2184
01:55:14,755 --> 01:55:14,762
I don't care how much you invested.

2185
01:55:14,762 --> 01:55:17,220
You either do it the right way, or you lose that privilege.

2186
01:55:17,220 --> 01:55:23,220
>> I'll make that into a motion, under those circumstances that

2187
01:55:26,948 --> 01:55:28,948
Supervisor Pacheco outlined.

2188
01:55:32,662 --> 01:55:34,572
>> I'll second.

2189
01:55:34,572 --> 01:55:38,172
>> All those in favor, say aye.

2190
01:55:39,656 --> 01:55:43,387
The motion passes >> And just for clarification, your motion

2191
01:55:43,387 --> 01:55:45,720
included other recommended conditions in the additional?

2192
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:47,703
>> Yes.

2193
01:55:47,703 --> 01:55:51,674
And if they violate them, bring it right back.

2194
01:55:51,674 --> 01:55:57,740
I want to take you to item number six.

2195
01:56:00,128 --> 01:56:02,836
>> It appears that the notice of public hearing was not published

2196
01:56:02,836 --> 01:56:02,842
in a newspaper of general circulation.

2197
01:56:02,842 --> 01:56:04,259
We contacted this morning and they

2198
01:56:04,259 --> 01:56:06,911
confirmed that they did receive notice on the clerk's office.

2199
01:56:06,911 --> 01:56:09,365
Unfortunately fell through the cracks on their end.

2200
01:56:09,365 --> 01:56:12,973
I will put processes in place to avoid

2201
01:56:12,973 --> 01:56:14,715
the situation in the future.

2202
01:56:14,715 --> 01:56:16,338
Will put extra steps over.

2203
01:56:16,338 --> 01:56:19,191
Item six will be continuing until September 8th.

2204
01:56:19,191 --> 01:56:22,825
We will publish it Friday, get confirmation from the newspaper

2205
01:56:22,825 --> 01:56:27,560
of General circulation, and that will give us ten days so it

2206
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:29,205
lands just right for September 8th.

2207
01:56:29,205 --> 01:56:33,585
We will now move to item number eight under Public Works

2208
01:56:33,585 --> 01:56:35,585
and Planning pure .

2209
01:56:47,861 --> 01:56:50,444
Consider and approve petition for cancellation of Agricultural

2210
01:56:50,444 --> 01:56:50,448
Land Conservation Contract No.

2211
01:56:50,448 --> 01:56:50,455
8271 filed by Yamabe & Horn Engineering,

2212
01:56:50,455 --> 01:56:50,461
on behalf of Joseph Crown (Applicant),

2213
01:56:50,461 --> 01:56:50,471
to a 38.18-acre parcel from Williamson Act Program to allow

2214
01:56:50,471 --> 01:56:50,483
parcel to be annexed to City of and developed as a residential

2215
01:56:50,483 --> 01:56:50,491
subdivision; and after making all five required findings

2216
01:56:50,491 --> 01:56:50,496
listed Government Code, Section 51282(b),

2217
01:56:50,496 --> 01:56:50,506
take the following actions: a) adopt and authorize to execute

2218
01:56:50,506 --> 01:56:52,464
Resolution authorizing cancellation of ALCC No.

2219
01:56:52,464 --> 01:56:57,264
8271; and b) authorize Chairman execute Certificate of Tentative

2220
01:57:08,606 --> 01:57:10,307
.

2221
01:57:10,307 --> 01:57:10,556
>> This item is our request to approve a petition

2222
01:57:10,556 --> 01:57:12,639
for cancellation for agricultural and conservation

2223
01:57:12,639 --> 01:57:15,639
contract number 8271 between approximately 38 acres.

2224
01:57:20,579 --> 01:57:23,926
Staff was able to make all of the cancellation findings,

2225
01:57:23,926 --> 01:57:23,931
recommends approval of this request

2226
01:57:23,931 --> 01:57:25,223
that concludes my presentation.

2227
01:57:25,223 --> 01:57:28,223
>> Any comments from the board?

2228
01:57:30,495 --> 01:57:31,703
Any comments from the public?

2229
01:57:31,703 --> 01:57:34,828
Is there a motion and a second?

2230
01:57:34,828 --> 01:57:38,428
All those in favor, say aye.

2231
01:57:46,818 --> 01:57:47,735
It passes unanimously.

2232
01:57:47,735 --> 01:57:48,235
Next item.

2233
01:57:48,235 --> 01:57:50,218
>> We now move to item number nine.

2234
01:57:50,218 --> 01:57:52,301
Or of supervisor's committee reports and comments.

2235
01:57:52,301 --> 01:57:54,701
>> Any reports or comments?

2236
01:58:00,252 --> 01:58:02,794
>> Some of Fresno County staff, my office we have a community

2237
01:58:02,794 --> 01:58:03,123
meeting which is going to take place tomorrow for Silver

2238
01:58:03,123 --> 01:58:04,171
Springs, water work district 40.

2239
01:58:04,171 --> 01:58:06,405
I want to thank staff and I know that we're reaching out

2240
01:58:06,405 --> 01:58:08,300
to the State Water Board as well to try

2241
01:58:08,300 --> 01:58:10,625
to see if we can get a representative coming out.

2242
01:58:10,625 --> 01:58:13,597
We've got over 100 special districts in Fresno County,

2243
01:58:13,597 --> 01:58:15,641
I brought it up in the past that there

2244
01:58:15,641 --> 01:58:19,490
are many challenges and the strains that we face as a county

2245
01:58:19,490 --> 01:58:21,508
as it relates to a lot of our districts,

2246
01:58:21,508 --> 01:58:25,708
whether it be water districts, CSAs, CSDs,

2247
01:58:36,486 --> 01:58:38,653
so I think it's important for us to be fully engaged

2248
01:58:38,653 --> 01:58:38,656
in that front.

2249
01:58:38,656 --> 01:58:38,662
Meeting going to take place tomorrow.

2250
01:58:38,662 --> 01:58:38,674
I know many residents are going to be coming out for that.

2251
01:58:38,674 --> 01:58:38,681
I look forward to providing an update

2252
01:58:38,681 --> 01:58:39,996
on outcomes from that meeting.

2253
01:58:39,996 --> 01:58:41,805
A lot of other things going on.

2254
01:58:41,805 --> 01:58:44,709
I will say yield my time back to buddy,

2255
01:58:44,709 --> 01:58:50,709
because he always has witty things he likes to say.

2256
01:58:58,146 --> 01:58:59,104
>> I'll make a comment.

2257
01:58:59,104 --> 01:58:59,113
I see Ben Ewell sitting in the back there.

2258
01:58:59,113 --> 01:59:00,446
He has two of his sons with him.

2259
01:59:00,446 --> 01:59:04,460
It's always good to see Ben.

2260
01:59:13,449 --> 01:59:14,751
>> Anyone else?

2261
01:59:14,751 --> 01:59:15,251
No.

2262
01:59:15,251 --> 01:59:17,651
We don't have any-

2263
01:59:18,759 --> 01:59:20,176
>> We now move to item number ten.

2264
01:59:20,176 --> 01:59:20,968
Board appointments.

2265
01:59:20,968 --> 01:59:22,268
>> None?

2266
01:59:22,268 --> 01:59:23,313
Nope.

2267
01:59:23,313 --> 01:59:27,513
We will move on to the next.

2268
01:59:28,464 --> 01:59:30,964
>> We will now move to item number 11, public presentations.

2269
01:59:30,964 --> 01:59:36,364
This portion of the meeting is reserved for persons.

2270
01:59:39,852 --> 01:59:42,519
>> Any comments from the public on any matter not on this agenda

2271
01:59:42,519 --> 01:59:42,530
or any comments from the public on closed sessions item 13

2272
01:59:42,530 --> 01:59:43,300
through 22?

2273
01:59:43,300 --> 01:59:45,300
Please come forward.

2274
02:00:01,401 --> 02:00:02,609
>> My name is Jennifer Taber.

2275
02:00:02,609 --> 02:00:02,619
I'm a resident and customer of Fresno County Water Works

2276
02:00:02,619 --> 02:00:02,624
district number 40, Shaver Springs.

2277
02:00:02,624 --> 02:00:03,165
I want to put several facts from the government's own records

2278
02:00:03,165 --> 02:00:04,618
into public record today.

2279
02:00:04,618 --> 02:00:07,850
Because residents deserve an explanation of what

2280
02:00:07,850 --> 02:00:12,485
happened to this water system over the last 17 years.

2281
02:00:13,685 --> 02:00:16,850
Records dating back to 2008, 2009

2282
02:00:17,500 --> 02:00:20,500
describe an extremely Serious situation

2283
02:00:30,120 --> 02:00:36,612
of WWD-40, all wells that served w WD 40 have been contaminated

2284
02:00:40,436 --> 02:00:41,353
with uranium nitrates.

2285
02:00:41,353 --> 02:00:42,285
As a result, the district no longer possesses drinking water.

2286
02:00:42,285 --> 02:00:44,805
Another government record describes 5 or 6 wells

2287
02:00:44,805 --> 02:00:47,725
chemically or radiologically contaminated in the state's.

2288
02:00:47,725 --> 02:00:49,545
The district does not have potable water.

2289
02:00:49,545 --> 02:00:52,125
That same record identifies three water storage tanks

2290
02:00:52,125 --> 02:00:55,376
and the -- it also states that four existing wells were

2291
02:00:55,376 --> 02:00:57,751
supposed to be destroyed pursuant to recommendations from

2292
02:00:57,751 --> 02:00:59,807
the California Department of Public Health.

2293
02:00:59,807 --> 02:01:03,898
In March 20th 2025 state drinking water document states

2294
02:01:03,898 --> 02:01:09,500
that compliance order was issued in 2009 for uranium MCL

2295
02:01:09,500 --> 02:01:10,925
noncompliance at Wells six.

2296
02:01:10,925 --> 02:01:14,525
Another compliance order was issued in 2013

2297
02:01:19,822 --> 02:01:24,622
for a gross-- the water system must comply

2298
02:01:25,941 --> 02:01:27,691
with the requirements of compliance orders

2299
02:01:27,691 --> 02:01:27,699
until the water system is returned to compliance.

2300
02:01:27,699 --> 02:01:27,940
What happened between the record saying the district

2301
02:01:27,940 --> 02:01:31,165
does not possess potable district water and Fresno County

2302
02:01:31,165 --> 02:01:34,765
providing the water to WWD40 customers.

2303
02:01:35,285 --> 02:01:40,725
Is that tank still part of our drinking water system today?

2304
02:01:40,725 --> 02:01:45,205
The board has authority to call an emergency.

2305
02:01:45,205 --> 02:01:49,613
I want the record to be clear that Fresno County is not

2306
02:01:49,613 --> 02:01:55,130
limited simply to waiting for another agency to act.

2307
02:02:04,890 --> 02:02:06,890
>> Thank you, ma'am.

2308
02:02:07,610 --> 02:02:08,962
Next, please.

2309
02:02:08,962 --> 02:02:09,462
>> Hi.

2310
02:02:09,462 --> 02:02:09,760
Good afternoon.

2311
02:02:09,760 --> 02:02:10,213
I am a young resident of Shaver Springs.

2312
02:02:10,213 --> 02:02:10,218
My name is Kelly Taber.

2313
02:02:10,218 --> 02:02:11,260
I live in Shaver Springs.

2314
02:02:11,260 --> 02:02:16,660
I'm not a water engineer, attorney or governor official.

2315
02:02:20,700 --> 02:02:22,575
I'm a young person who should be able to turn

2316
02:02:22,575 --> 02:02:22,583
on a faucet in my home without wondering

2317
02:02:22,583 --> 02:02:22,588
whether the water is safe.

2318
02:02:22,588 --> 02:02:22,594
Over the past several months I've

2319
02:02:22,594 --> 02:02:23,425
watched my mom spend countless hours trying

2320
02:02:23,425 --> 02:02:25,765
to understand what has happened to our water system.

2321
02:02:25,765 --> 02:02:28,545
What she found didn't come from Facebook or rumors.

2322
02:02:28,545 --> 02:02:30,670
It came from the government records.

2323
02:02:30,670 --> 02:02:36,700
Those records talk about uranium gross alpha, contaminated wells.

2324
02:02:36,458 --> 02:02:39,869
A system that was described as not having potable water

2325
02:02:39,869 --> 02:02:42,138
in a storage tank that was described

2326
02:02:42,138 --> 02:02:44,538
as deteriorating beyond repair.

2327
02:02:44,705 --> 02:02:47,450
These problems started when I was a little kid

2328
02:02:47,450 --> 02:02:50,245
and some of them even started before I was born.

2329
02:02:50,245 --> 02:02:55,645
Yet, families are still standing here asking what happened.

2330
02:02:56,260 --> 02:03:01,426
Young people in Silver Springs didn't create these problems.

2331
02:03:03,592 --> 02:03:05,342
We can't inspect the water tank ourselves.

2332
02:03:05,342 --> 02:03:05,348
We can't replace the contaminant well.

2333
02:03:05,348 --> 02:03:07,150
We can't issue an emergency declaration.

2334
02:03:07,150 --> 02:03:08,733
We can't force a government agency

2335
02:03:08,733 --> 02:03:10,701
to fix the public water system.

2336
02:03:10,701 --> 02:03:16,701
We depend on adults like you, responsible for the system

2337
02:03:24,237 --> 02:03:24,820
to protect us.

2338
02:03:24,820 --> 02:03:24,828
I'm not standing here today to tell you

2339
02:03:24,828 --> 02:03:24,834
what our water costs anyone's illness.

2340
02:03:24,834 --> 02:03:24,839
I'm asking something much simpler.

2341
02:03:24,839 --> 02:03:27,297
Please make sure the water provided to our families is safe

2342
02:03:27,297 --> 02:03:29,397
and prove it with testing inspections and records.

2343
02:03:29,397 --> 02:03:32,565
If the tanks haven't been internally inspected,

2344
02:03:32,565 --> 02:03:33,205
inspect them.

2345
02:03:33,205 --> 02:03:34,800
It's not that hard.

2346
02:03:34,800 --> 02:03:38,325
If contaminated wells were supposed to be destroyed,

2347
02:03:38,325 --> 02:03:41,225
show us what happened to them, and while these questions are

2348
02:03:41,225 --> 02:03:46,250
being resolved, please do everything within your authority

2349
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:53,881
to help families obtain safe drinking water.

2350
02:03:53,881 --> 02:03:59,281
Please treat the families and children of Silver Springs,

2351
02:04:00,649 --> 02:04:02,191
like how you would treat your family.

2352
02:04:02,191 --> 02:04:02,199
We shouldn't have to wait for something worse

2353
02:04:02,199 --> 02:04:02,208
to happen before someone decides this deserves urgent action.

2354
02:04:02,208 --> 02:04:04,608
Thank you for listening.

2355
02:04:05,450 --> 02:04:07,450
>> Hello.

2356
02:04:08,883 --> 02:04:11,883
My name is Jessica Mahoney.

2357
02:04:13,989 --> 02:04:16,572
I'm here to support the families of Shaver Springs California.

2358
02:04:16,572 --> 02:04:18,530
Their water system has been horrible for years.

2359
02:04:18,530 --> 02:04:22,233
Before and after the Creek fire incident.

2360
02:04:22,233 --> 02:04:25,233
Our resident of district three.

2361
02:04:28,590 --> 02:04:29,965
I did not live in Silver Springs,

2362
02:04:29,965 --> 02:04:29,972
but this doesn't mean I don't care.

2363
02:04:29,972 --> 02:04:29,982
I volunteered with the Red cross during the Creek Fire.

2364
02:04:29,982 --> 02:04:30,265
I helped people get into motels.

2365
02:04:30,265 --> 02:04:32,189
I delivered food to the motels.

2366
02:04:32,189 --> 02:04:36,500
I care about our community and our neighbors.

2367
02:04:36,500 --> 02:04:38,829
Our neighbors our neighbors in Christ

2368
02:04:38,829 --> 02:04:43,930
and human beings that deserve clean and safe drinking

2369
02:04:43,930 --> 02:04:47,885
water I submitted to the county clerk this document

2370
02:04:47,885 --> 02:04:49,885
from last year.

2371
02:04:50,645 --> 02:04:54,317
Sanitary Survey report on Silver Springs Wells.

2372
02:04:54,317 --> 02:05:00,205
They give you 15 different items to fix your different timelines.

2373
02:05:00,205 --> 02:05:03,805
Three of them were immediate corrections.

2374
02:05:04,581 --> 02:05:08,395
One was called to Billy, which is

2375
02:05:08,395 --> 02:05:10,565
the discoloration of the water.

2376
02:05:10,565 --> 02:05:13,565
It's caused by minerals, bacteria.

2377
02:05:15,858 --> 02:05:17,858
Bio contaminants.

2378
02:05:18,845 --> 02:05:20,965
High iron and uranium.

2379
02:05:20,965 --> 02:05:23,249
It's in that water.

2380
02:05:23,249 --> 02:05:26,993
And Jubilee is usually one m HCl.

2381
02:05:26,993 --> 02:05:29,993
This was 28 according to EPA.

2382
02:05:30,240 --> 02:05:32,911
Anything over a five is dangerous to drink

2383
02:05:32,911 --> 02:05:35,469
and should not be drunk by anybody.

2384
02:05:35,469 --> 02:05:37,469
Not just babies.

2385
02:05:37,845 --> 02:05:39,665
Not elderly or people that are sick.

2386
02:05:39,665 --> 02:05:44,905
Nobody should be drinking the water at a w w d 40.

2387
02:05:44,905 --> 02:05:49,650
These people need bottled water like you guys did in Creek.

2388
02:05:49,650 --> 02:05:51,671
Those areas a couple of years ago

2389
02:05:51,671 --> 02:05:54,415
I don't know why these wells haven't been fixed.

2390
02:05:54,415 --> 02:05:57,311
That property across from militant the development

2391
02:05:57,311 --> 02:06:01,485
a few years ago they got a COVID loan to fix their wells.

2392
02:06:01,485 --> 02:06:03,405
These people are not big developers.

2393
02:06:03,405 --> 02:06:06,258
Their families paid a high rate.

2394
02:06:06,258 --> 02:06:08,610
The biggest in the country.

2395
02:06:08,610 --> 02:06:14,610
Thousands of dollars each month for water they cannot drink.

2396
02:06:24,438 --> 02:06:25,938
>> Thank you.

2397
02:06:25,938 --> 02:06:27,938
>> Good morning.

2398
02:06:29,970 --> 02:06:30,264
My name is Olga Maria Silva.

2399
02:06:30,264 --> 02:06:31,722
I live in the community of Del Rey.

2400
02:06:31,722 --> 02:06:37,122
Del Rey is a small community of a lot

2401
02:06:38,366 --> 02:06:42,866
of poor people, a lot of seniors people

2402
02:06:42,866 --> 02:06:44,366
that do not have a lot of resources.

2403
02:06:44,366 --> 02:06:44,373
I'm here to talk about an intersection

2404
02:06:44,373 --> 02:06:44,379
of Del Rey and American Avenue.

2405
02:06:44,379 --> 02:06:44,384
It's a very dangerous intersection.

2406
02:06:44,384 --> 02:06:45,676
There have been many accidents.

2407
02:06:45,676 --> 02:06:47,775
I passed by their daily.

2408
02:06:47,775 --> 02:06:51,975
I have had very often serious near-misses

2409
02:06:54,545 --> 02:06:57,565
of having an accident here there have been deaths there before.

2410
02:06:57,565 --> 02:07:00,390
There have been accidents recorded in the past.

2411
02:07:00,390 --> 02:07:06,390
A lot of people that I know I've had near

2412
02:07:10,103 --> 02:07:12,301
misses or been run off the road.

2413
02:07:12,301 --> 02:07:14,509
They do not report it because a lot of Mexican people

2414
02:07:14,509 --> 02:07:14,513
don't like reporting things.

2415
02:07:14,513 --> 02:07:14,723
You guys have done, or there have

2416
02:07:14,723 --> 02:07:16,829
been measures where they put flashing lights

2417
02:07:16,829 --> 02:07:22,829
and they sign that says cross traffic does not stop.

2418
02:07:24,400 --> 02:07:31,000
And that's fine, but it's not going to solve the problem.

2419
02:07:32,296 --> 02:07:34,400
We've been having this problem for years.

2420
02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:38,204
We need a four way stop there.

2421
02:07:43,319 --> 02:07:45,194
Someone said it's a highway or a major street

2422
02:07:45,194 --> 02:07:51,194
especially for the business of Palm Wonderful, which is true

2423
02:07:53,610 --> 02:07:55,943
but there's a stop sign a mile down American and McCall,

2424
02:07:55,943 --> 02:07:57,925
and there's another one on Bethel.

2425
02:07:57,925 --> 02:08:00,922
So we're requesting that you provide another stop sign.

2426
02:08:00,922 --> 02:08:02,297
There's an issue with visibility.

2427
02:08:02,297 --> 02:08:05,209
If you're on Del Ray Avenue heading north,

2428
02:08:05,209 --> 02:08:08,209
you have a light pole.

2429
02:08:15,770 --> 02:08:18,699
You have bushes and mailboxes, and you have

2430
02:08:18,699 --> 02:08:19,824
vehicles that parked there.

2431
02:08:19,824 --> 02:08:19,827
That's becomes unsafe.

2432
02:08:19,827 --> 02:08:19,838
You have to pull out into the middle of the road

2433
02:08:19,838 --> 02:08:19,842
to see oncoming traffic.

2434
02:08:19,842 --> 02:08:21,836
Which are mostly big trucks.

2435
02:08:21,836 --> 02:08:23,558
You have weeds.

2436
02:08:23,558 --> 02:08:26,741
So we're asking, is it going to take another death?

2437
02:08:26,741 --> 02:08:28,741
I hope not.

2438
02:08:40,639 --> 02:08:42,639
>> Thank you.

2439
02:08:45,375 --> 02:08:46,292
>> Hi, good afternoon.

2440
02:08:46,292 --> 02:08:46,299
Victoria with the California road legal assistance.

2441
02:08:46,299 --> 02:08:46,308
I'm here because we work with the community group

2442
02:08:46,308 --> 02:08:48,365
in the community of Del Rey.

2443
02:08:48,365 --> 02:08:53,102
We are here to request for an all way stop

2444
02:08:53,102 --> 02:08:56,702
on Del Rey and American Avenue.

2445
02:09:09,138 --> 02:09:10,721
In December of 2014 a young lady named

2446
02:09:10,721 --> 02:09:12,304
Alejandra Yanez lost her life, leaving

2447
02:09:12,304 --> 02:09:17,704
behind an eight month old child who is now 11.

2448
02:09:23,934 --> 02:09:26,155
Marvin will not ever know his mother.

2449
02:09:26,155 --> 02:09:28,720
He will never remember what her touch is like.

2450
02:09:28,720 --> 02:09:32,272
I would just like to take something.

2451
02:09:36,667 --> 02:09:38,840
For the supervisor Mendez referred

2452
02:09:38,840 --> 02:09:38,920
to when he was dealing with the divider

2453
02:09:38,920 --> 02:09:40,467
that they put on to the 41 between L'amour and Riverdale.

2454
02:09:40,467 --> 02:09:44,670
Board of Supervisor Mendes, you made

2455
02:09:51,302 --> 02:09:54,880
it clear that this divider was a Band-Aid on a broken arm.

2456
02:09:54,880 --> 02:09:57,380
So here as somebody who works with the community of Del Rey,

2457
02:09:57,380 --> 02:09:59,172
we'd like for you to help them move forward

2458
02:09:59,172 --> 02:10:02,973
and help them take off that Band-Aid for the intersection

2459
02:10:02,973 --> 02:10:06,109
of Del Rey and American Avenue.

2460
02:10:06,109 --> 02:10:10,805
Help put a cast on that arm so that they

2461
02:10:10,805 --> 02:10:17,405
can start healing and have a more safer way of commuting

2462
02:10:18,658 --> 02:10:23,458
to and from the community of Del Rey.

2463
02:10:31,719 --> 02:10:33,802
It's very important to make this intersection safe

2464
02:10:33,802 --> 02:10:33,809
and move forward with taking off that

2465
02:10:33,809 --> 02:10:35,976
Band-Aid and putting on a cast and letting them heal

2466
02:10:35,976 --> 02:10:39,576
in the community of Del Rey.

2467
02:10:50,701 --> 02:10:51,983
Thank you.

2468
02:10:51,983 --> 02:10:52,688
>> Thank you.

2469
02:10:52,688 --> 02:10:53,188
>> Good.

2470
02:10:53,188 --> 02:10:54,271
My name is Amanda Estrada.

2471
02:10:54,271 --> 02:10:58,471
I'm asking for the four way Stop...

2472
02:11:15,550 --> 02:11:19,498
I don't live Del Rey anymore, but I'm through there every day.

2473
02:11:19,498 --> 02:11:20,873
I'm part of Shining Life I'm also

2474
02:11:20,873 --> 02:11:22,810
part of the Delray community.

2475
02:11:22,810 --> 02:11:26,281
When you lose someone, it's a person.

2476
02:11:45,993 --> 02:11:48,993
My Grandson is Marvin Gonzalez.

2477
02:11:51,627 --> 02:11:57,993
The only you can get is what the AI can make.

2478
02:11:57,993 --> 02:12:00,393
The roads are dangerous.

2479
02:12:01,110 --> 02:12:05,211
This is my second time up here.

2480
02:12:05,295 --> 02:12:08,895
But before this, I've been signatures.

2481
02:12:12,513 --> 02:12:14,346
Whatever needs to be done, I stop I'm doing.

2482
02:12:14,346 --> 02:12:14,356
I help run a food ministry. have my own.

2483
02:12:14,356 --> 02:12:14,367
But whatever it takes to to get these four stops,

2484
02:12:14,367 --> 02:12:17,165
it's not going to bring her back.

2485
02:12:17,165 --> 02:12:20,385
But it might help somebody save their life.

2486
02:12:20,385 --> 02:12:26,985
When you guys go home, your wives expect you Home safe.

2487
02:12:31,884 --> 02:12:39,840
She left-- and we got a phone call saying, go get her.

2488
02:12:50,175 --> 02:12:51,920
We had to drag my son.

2489
02:12:51,920 --> 02:12:51,980
Four couldn't get him off.

2490
02:12:51,980 --> 02:12:51,105
He was saying, let get her.

2491
02:12:51,105 --> 02:12:51,109
We need this done.

2492
02:12:51,109 --> 02:12:51,859
Whatever it takes.

2493
02:12:51,859 --> 02:12:57,369
If you need us to sit there and record whatever it is,

2494
02:12:57,369 --> 02:13:02,169
let us know, because it's just my family.

2495
02:13:10,193 --> 02:13:12,193
It's everybody else's.

2496
02:13:13,930 --> 02:13:15,930
Thank you.

2497
02:13:16,251 --> 02:13:18,180
>> Thank you, ma'am.

2498
02:13:18,180 --> 02:13:19,643
>> , supervisor. name is Joel Hinojosa.

2499
02:13:19,643 --> 02:13:19,650
That was my wife. were devastated

2500
02:13:19,650 --> 02:13:20,900
when this accident took place.

2501
02:13:20,900 --> 02:13:24,101
We were both active members in the community of Del Rey.

2502
02:13:24,101 --> 02:13:25,933
We attend church there.

2503
02:13:25,933 --> 02:13:30,199
There's a men's home that we're a part of.

2504
02:13:30,199 --> 02:13:33,799
We have lived in Del Rey.

2505
02:13:42,975 --> 02:13:43,975
I am in the ag industry.

2506
02:13:43,975 --> 02:13:43,984
I go that intersection on a daily basis.

2507
02:13:43,984 --> 02:13:44,567
It's like day.

2508
02:13:44,567 --> 02:13:49,294
Since the 70s, I've been in this of the valley my whole life.

2509
02:13:49,294 --> 02:13:54,940
Since the 70s, there's been numerous accidents there.

2510
02:13:55,168 --> 02:13:57,251
I know personally three that have been fatalities.

2511
02:13:57,251 --> 02:13:59,459
Unfortunately, that affected lives being one of them.

2512
02:13:59,459 --> 02:14:04,859
When this took place, we started to become active,

2513
02:14:10,858 --> 02:14:12,483
trying to signatures and take the steps

2514
02:14:12,483 --> 02:14:12,494
to see if could get something done about the intersection.

2515
02:14:12,494 --> 02:14:13,952
And a member of the community, I've

2516
02:14:13,952 --> 02:14:19,352
spoken to many people in Delray in the city.

2517
02:14:25,449 --> 02:14:27,157
I've never spoken to anybody in that city

2518
02:14:27,157 --> 02:14:34,357
that hasn't said that they would love to see a four-way stop.

2519
02:14:37,190 --> 02:14:38,690
Being in the ag industry, I realized

2520
02:14:38,690 --> 02:14:38,702
that pom Wonderful has a lot of trucks that are going through.

2521
02:14:38,702 --> 02:14:38,716
I know that a lot of times it's about the dollar, how much can

2522
02:14:38,716 --> 02:14:38,865
be moved on a daily basis.

2523
02:14:38,865 --> 02:14:40,158
I send trucks out all the time.

2524
02:14:40,158 --> 02:14:44,280
But in the ag industry, we never put life above the dollar.

2525
02:14:44,280 --> 02:14:46,421
We always look out for the best of our employees,

2526
02:14:46,421 --> 02:14:50,210
the people that work around us.

2527
02:14:55,578 --> 02:14:59,411
I look at it from that aspect as far as the ag industry goes.

2528
02:14:59,411 --> 02:15:01,911
Above that, I don't want anybody to have to go through this.

2529
02:15:01,911 --> 02:15:04,119
I don't want anybody else to have to lose a loved one

2530
02:15:04,119 --> 02:15:07,900
or have to deal with the repercussions of it.

2531
02:15:07,900 --> 02:15:11,809
My wife was trying to get across that--

2532
02:15:12,335 --> 02:15:14,335
I'll end there.

2533
02:15:26,859 --> 02:15:28,859
>> Thank you.

2534
02:15:34,410 --> 02:15:35,952
>> good morning board of supervisors.

2535
02:15:35,952 --> 02:15:35,955
This is Leticia.

2536
02:15:35,955 --> 02:15:35,964
I am a staff attorney with California Rural Legal

2537
02:15:35,964 --> 02:15:36,464
Assistance.

2538
02:15:36,464 --> 02:15:39,581
I am providing a public comment on behalf of residents of Del

2539
02:15:39,581 --> 02:15:42,385
Rey to request that Fresno County install a four way stop

2540
02:15:42,385 --> 02:15:45,911
on American and Del Rey Avenue pursuant to the county ordinance

2541
02:15:45,911 --> 02:15:49,425
11.04.020, which allows the Board of Supervisors

2542
02:15:49,425 --> 02:15:51,725
to authorize the installation of a stop sign.

2543
02:15:51,725 --> 02:15:54,325
The lack of a four way stop sign at the intersection

2544
02:15:54,325 --> 02:15:57,450
has resulted in at least 21 pedestrian and traffic

2545
02:15:57,450 --> 02:15:58,429
collisions in the last 12 years.

2546
02:15:58,429 --> 02:16:01,505
These collisions have led to known fatalities,

2547
02:16:01,505 --> 02:16:03,431
but despite this troubling history,

2548
02:16:03,431 --> 02:16:06,765
there's currently only a two way stop sign at that intersection.

2549
02:16:06,765 --> 02:16:09,165
In 2020, Fresno County determined

2550
02:16:09,570 --> 02:16:11,545
that the intersection of Del Rey and American

2551
02:16:11,545 --> 02:16:13,962
failed to meet the necessary criteria for the installation

2552
02:16:13,962 --> 02:16:15,551
of the four way stop sign.

2553
02:16:15,551 --> 02:16:19,151
Based on a 2020 Traffic engineering request.

2554
02:16:31,633 --> 02:16:33,800
However, this request that Fresno latest decision on

2555
02:16:33,800 --> 02:16:33,810
was unsupported as it was based on incomplete and outdated

2556
02:16:33,810 --> 02:16:33,811
information.

2557
02:16:33,811 --> 02:16:33,821
The installation of the four way stop at the intersection

2558
02:16:33,821 --> 02:16:34,313
remains necessary to reduce the likelihood of collisions,

2559
02:16:34,313 --> 02:16:36,765
therefore avoid fatalities or injuries.

2560
02:16:36,765 --> 02:16:39,885
Additionally, the board should adopt the resolution

2561
02:16:39,885 --> 02:16:42,925
to install the four way stop sign to align with the currently

2562
02:16:42,925 --> 02:16:44,965
approved 2025 Del Rey Community Plan

2563
02:16:44,965 --> 02:16:46,695
that emphasizes the county's commitment

2564
02:16:46,695 --> 02:16:49,658
to improve traffic safety and being a part of bringing

2565
02:16:49,658 --> 02:16:51,485
the community's vision to life.

2566
02:16:51,485 --> 02:16:56,405
This request is made and pursuant to the County

2567
02:16:56,405 --> 02:17:00,991
ordinance and documented history of the dangerous Intersection.

2568
02:17:00,991 --> 02:17:05,210
We also submitted a public comment written,

2569
02:17:05,210 --> 02:17:07,348
and it has signatures that Amanda was talking about.

2570
02:17:07,348 --> 02:17:08,765
There is support in the community.

2571
02:17:08,765 --> 02:17:11,165
Thank you so much.

2572
02:17:24,348 --> 02:17:26,650
>> Thank you very much.

2573
02:17:26,650 --> 02:17:29,500
Seeing no one else.

2574
02:17:29,122 --> 02:17:32,722
>> We now move to item number 12.

2575
02:17:34,299 --> 02:17:35,926
>> Item 11.

2576
02:17:35,926 --> 02:17:37,926
Go ahead.

2577
02:17:43,177 --> 02:17:46,470
>> Good morning, Mr. Chairman and members of the board.

2578
02:17:46,470 --> 02:17:46,520
My name is Jeff Roberts.

2579
02:17:46,520 --> 02:17:46,620
I'm a consultant and I do planning entitlement work here

2580
02:17:46,620 --> 02:17:46,650
in Fresno County.

2581
02:17:46,650 --> 02:17:46,700
I'll be brief this morning.

2582
02:17:46,700 --> 02:17:46,467
I'm here with Ben Ewell who will speak for a couple of minutes.

2583
02:17:46,467 --> 02:17:49,220
We would like to ask for your help

2584
02:17:49,220 --> 02:17:54,210
in providing direction to staff to work with us on a new idea up

2585
02:17:54,210 --> 02:17:57,189
in the Millerton specific plan area.

2586
02:17:57,189 --> 02:17:58,805
Very quick history.

2587
02:17:58,805 --> 02:18:02,805
The specific plan was approved by the board in 1984

2588
02:18:02,805 --> 02:18:06,430
there has been development that's occurred in the area.

2589
02:18:06,430 --> 02:18:07,585
Infrastructure that's been installed.

2590
02:18:07,585 --> 02:18:11,450
I can tell you that the area is not developing as fast or as big

2591
02:18:11,450 --> 02:18:13,245
as was once envisioned.

2592
02:18:13,245 --> 02:18:15,637
Things have changed up there.

2593
02:18:15,637 --> 02:18:18,185
There's been some ownership changes that have occurred.

2594
02:18:18,185 --> 02:18:20,485
There's been some rules and regulations

2595
02:18:20,485 --> 02:18:23,873
that have occurred that didn't exist back in 84.

2596
02:18:23,873 --> 02:18:26,813
So we'd like to ask for your staff's assistance

2597
02:18:26,813 --> 02:18:32,213
to look at some possible additions to the area.

2598
02:18:32,285 --> 02:18:36,685
Not the ones that would necessarily add count, traffic

2599
02:18:36,685 --> 02:18:38,349
or environmental issues and haven't

2600
02:18:38,349 --> 02:18:40,141
been looked at before, but possibly

2601
02:18:40,141 --> 02:18:41,509
in a different location.

2602
02:18:41,509 --> 02:18:48,109
I passed the handout that shows the specific plan area that's

2603
02:18:50,725 --> 02:18:53,380
highlighted in a pink area.

2604
02:18:53,380 --> 02:18:57,458
In the area in yellow that we're talking about, looking at

2605
02:18:57,458 --> 02:19:01,629
is possible for the new development adjacent to the CSA

2606
02:19:01,629 --> 02:19:02,813
and Millerton.

2607
02:19:02,813 --> 02:19:05,151
We'd appreciate any help you can give us.

2608
02:19:05,151 --> 02:19:08,277
Our goal is to develop a conceptual plan

2609
02:19:08,277 --> 02:19:11,522
and come back to your board with a conceptual plan.

2610
02:19:11,522 --> 02:19:14,165
We will have to file what are called Pre-applications

2611
02:19:14,165 --> 02:19:15,151
with the county.

2612
02:19:15,151 --> 02:19:17,138
That has not been done yet.

2613
02:19:17,138 --> 02:19:18,702
We fully intend to do that.

2614
02:19:18,702 --> 02:19:21,429
So when we do come back, we'll have

2615
02:19:21,429 --> 02:19:24,821
a complete picture of what we would like the direction to be.

2616
02:19:24,821 --> 02:19:27,165
And your staff will be fully informed.

2617
02:19:27,165 --> 02:19:29,265
Appreciate the time to speak.

2618
02:19:29,265 --> 02:19:31,265
Thank you.

2619
02:19:49,937 --> 02:19:50,604
>> Good morning.

2620
02:19:50,604 --> 02:19:50,611
Mr. Chairman and members of the board

2621
02:19:50,611 --> 02:19:52,611
just want to make a quick mention on the project

2622
02:19:52,611 --> 02:19:56,211
that Jeff Roberts just spoke to.

2623
02:20:01,403 --> 02:20:04,810
Years ago, when this project was approved unanimously

2624
02:20:04,810 --> 02:20:04,820
by the board we've obviously done a lot of work

2625
02:20:04,820 --> 02:20:04,833
and a lot of things have been built and a lot of issues

2626
02:20:04,833 --> 02:20:04,837
have come and gone.

2627
02:20:04,837 --> 02:20:06,295
A lot of people have come and gone.

2628
02:20:06,295 --> 02:20:09,295
I'm kind of sitting here.

2629
02:20:10,453 --> 02:20:17,530
But I do recall, a hearing when it was approved unanimously.

2630
02:20:19,470 --> 02:20:21,678
Supervisor Aaron Collegiate, one of your predecessors

2631
02:20:21,678 --> 02:20:29,100
leaned over up there and said, I'm going to give this to you

2632
02:20:29,100 --> 02:20:31,334
and unanimous approval here you got a promise one thing.

2633
02:20:31,334 --> 02:20:31,346
Stick it out and see it through and don't mess it up.

2634
02:20:31,346 --> 02:20:31,354
That's kind of why I'm here and would

2635
02:20:31,354 --> 02:20:33,935
like to continue to keep my promise of what I said that day.

2636
02:20:33,935 --> 02:20:35,935
Thank you.

2637
02:20:40,405 --> 02:20:42,405
>> Thank you.

2638
02:20:46,775 --> 02:20:48,775
Anyone else?

2639
02:20:51,210 --> 02:20:53,155
We will now close that and move to the next item

2640
02:20:53,155 --> 02:20:53,166
>> We now move to item 12, County Council reports from

2641
02:20:53,166 --> 02:20:54,208
previous closed sessions.

2642
02:20:54,208 --> 02:20:59,800
>> There are no reports from prior closed sessions.

2643
02:20:59,559 --> 02:21:02,142
However, I would expect a report after today's closed session.

2644
02:21:02,142 --> 02:21:03,225
I want to wait to vote to.

2645
02:21:03,225 --> 02:21:07,425
>> We are now going to closed session.

2646
02:21:18,174 --> 02:21:20,574
[Meeting entered closed session]