1 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:56,800 All right. So the time being 12 o' 1 p.m. I will call this August 6th meeting of the town council to order Jennifer which these call the role yes male. Presidents. 2 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:09,240 Here. 3 00:02:09,580 --> 00:02:10,120 That's all. 4 00:02:10,420 --> 00:02:10,580 Great. 5 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,620 Thank you so much if you would please join me in the salute to the flag. 6 00:02:16,250 --> 00:02:16,470 I see. 7 00:02:16,670 --> 00:02:20,010 So they just see the model of the United States of America. 8 00:02:21,410 --> 00:02:21,930 Oh. 9 00:02:22,150 --> 00:02:22,470 Please. 10 00:02:23,470 --> 00:02:28,910 One of the things I'm going to be glad in your physical with the teaching that the squirrel 11 00:02:29,410 --> 00:02:30,150 is not present. 12 00:02:34,420 --> 00:02:34,940 Excellent. 13 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,780 So in regards to the agenda, are there any changes or additions to the agenda? 14 00:02:42,850 --> 00:02:43,370 Okay. 15 00:02:43,370 --> 00:02:51,210 So our agenda sets, just a few things are sadly our training for today, it's been postponed. 16 00:02:51,750 --> 00:03:00,470 Oh, I know. Sorry. Okay. However, Jen, I assume we'll set us up with if you want to do the 17 00:03:00,470 --> 00:03:04,350 training on your own individually, you're able to do that. So we'll talk about that later. 18 00:03:06,190 --> 00:03:16,550 There is a request that came in for a proclamation that will be on August 20th, agenda, and that 19 00:03:16,550 --> 00:03:21,970 was in regards to an honorary street name for honoring Vern Howard. 20 00:03:22,650 --> 00:03:24,550 So Kevin Holmes will be presenting that. 21 00:03:25,030 --> 00:03:31,250 He has had a petition of over 300 signatures, so he will be presenting that Council Member 22 00:03:31,250 --> 00:03:37,270 the Freedis and Council Member Hushback have agreed to sponsor that, so we'll learn more about that at the next meeting. 23 00:03:39,130 --> 00:03:46,030 Also, so Council is aware we have an emergency resolution, number 3039, authorizing a contract with loss and construction, 24 00:03:46,550 --> 00:03:51,710 water supply infrastructure associated with the loss and dam and pond draining project. 25 00:03:52,170 --> 00:03:59,730 So we added that to agenda, we'll talk about that today, and that resolution options will be presented by Public Works Director Mike Lipdeck later. 26 00:04:00,430 --> 00:04:04,930 And I would love to introduce our newest employee, David Barnes, from the Water Distribution 27 00:04:04,930 --> 00:04:05,350 Department. 28 00:04:05,990 --> 00:04:06,910 Well, hi. 29 00:04:07,270 --> 00:04:07,530 Hi. 30 00:04:07,710 --> 00:04:08,450 I see a lot of you. 31 00:04:09,250 --> 00:04:10,370 Nice to meet you. 32 00:04:10,530 --> 00:04:13,330 I don't know if you want me to just say hello. 33 00:04:13,830 --> 00:04:14,190 Sure. 34 00:04:15,210 --> 00:04:16,670 You can say as much as you would like, David. 35 00:04:17,390 --> 00:04:18,150 It was a little. 36 00:04:18,330 --> 00:04:18,570 Thanks, Pat. 37 00:04:20,010 --> 00:04:20,090 Great. 38 00:04:20,250 --> 00:04:21,010 Thanks so much for coming. 39 00:04:21,110 --> 00:04:21,790 We appreciate it. 40 00:04:21,910 --> 00:04:22,750 And welcome to the town. 41 00:04:23,090 --> 00:04:23,990 I appreciate it. 42 00:04:24,010 --> 00:04:24,350 Thank you. 43 00:04:24,470 --> 00:04:24,710 Thank you. 44 00:04:25,010 --> 00:04:25,970 Thank you. 45 00:04:25,970 --> 00:04:26,170 Yes. 46 00:04:28,710 --> 00:04:32,730 So we'll move on to public comment. Each commenter has allocated three minutes to make 47 00:04:32,730 --> 00:04:38,650 comment, to make public comment. Please approach the podium. State your first and last name and whether 48 00:04:38,650 --> 00:04:43,130 you live inside town limits. If you're online, please raise your hand using your device and you will 49 00:04:43,130 --> 00:04:49,530 be called on and unmuted. Is there anybody for public comments here? Yeah, just like nobody. 50 00:04:49,790 --> 00:04:56,850 No, anybody online? Yeah. Excellent. Moving on. So for the consent agenda, 51 00:04:56,850 --> 00:04:58,510 Has council reviewed the consent agenda? 52 00:04:59,010 --> 00:04:59,090 Yes. 53 00:04:59,170 --> 00:04:59,290 Yes. 54 00:04:59,890 --> 00:05:00,830 Are there any questions? 55 00:05:01,710 --> 00:05:02,230 No. 56 00:05:02,690 --> 00:05:04,570 Do I hear a motion for approval? 57 00:05:05,390 --> 00:05:05,490 Yes. 58 00:05:05,730 --> 00:05:11,130 I move that we approve the August 6, 21, 6, consent agenda has written. 59 00:05:11,730 --> 00:05:11,890 Second. 60 00:05:12,530 --> 00:05:12,870 Great. 61 00:05:12,990 --> 00:05:17,130 It has been moved and seconded to approve the consent agenda for August 6, 20, 26. 62 00:05:17,470 --> 00:05:18,070 All those in favor? 63 00:05:18,450 --> 00:05:18,670 Aye. 64 00:05:18,890 --> 00:05:19,950 Any opposed? 65 00:05:20,430 --> 00:05:20,570 No. 66 00:05:20,850 --> 00:05:21,430 Motion carries. 67 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,900 We have resolution number 3, 0, 3, 7. 68 00:05:28,660 --> 00:05:31,920 Authorizing, public sale of used equipment deemed surplus. 69 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,800 That was part of the consent agenda, yes, ever mind. 70 00:05:37,780 --> 00:05:38,980 Yeah, that's to me. 71 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,980 So we'll do a public hearing on ordinance number 1841 regarding transient accommodations. 72 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,720 The purpose of this public hearing is for the council to hear from the public and consider 73 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:57,740 pertinent facts related to proposed ordinance number 1841 regarding transient accommodations. 74 00:05:58,940 --> 00:06:05,400 So the public hearing for ordinance number 81841 regarding transient accommodations is now open. 75 00:06:05,700 --> 00:06:12,580 The time being 205 p.m. the date is August 6th, 2026, we'll hear from staff, then the public 76 00:06:12,580 --> 00:06:17,100 will have the opportunity to provide public testimony after which the hearing will be closed. 77 00:06:17,420 --> 00:06:21,900 Community Development Director Erickson, do you have anything you would like to add? 78 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:23,160 And just for something briefly, 79 00:06:23,740 --> 00:06:23,960 right 80 00:06:28,660 --> 00:06:33,900 now I think we build directorie just wanted to highlight that some of the standards for the change in accommodation. 81 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:41,420 So we've broken out so that only applies in the historic downhound district as opposed to the entire commercial area. 82 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,900 There's no counsel for that aware of that. 83 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,020 You like those conditions to be applied everywhere that you have to amend the work. 84 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:55,800 And specifically that is like the Florida ratio requiring to be a make-use building and things like that. 85 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:00,420 Let me discuss the last time you do preliminary in this. 86 00:07:03,180 --> 00:07:07,640 Excuse me, Ryan. Can you expand on that just a little bit? 87 00:07:08,340 --> 00:07:08,520 Yeah. 88 00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:10,760 With the original tutorial accomplished for us. 89 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:16,140 So if you use any more convertibles of commercial, 90 00:07:16,380 --> 00:07:19,980 if you used to have to provide equal commercial areas, 91 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,140 so they'll cut down on the competition's commercial uses to chance you. 92 00:07:24,140 --> 00:07:31,120 uses in new buildings. It all has to be a mixed use building and the mixed uses on the ground floor 93 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:37,740 used to be a commercial or non-transient use. We have floor area ratios where and the new mixed 94 00:07:37,740 --> 00:07:43,560 use only 20% of the building floor area can be used as a transient combination and those are all 95 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:53,940 for the downtown district. And so then parking is the same, I guess we can't buy out of parking 96 00:07:53,940 --> 00:07:58,580 for transit accommodations currently, so that would be main, so you have to provide your 97 00:07:58,580 --> 00:08:08,280 on-street parking for the parking. I'll put in kitchenettes or sleeping units. The sleeping 98 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:13,480 unit is different than a dwelling unit, so long-term habitation or even if you're doing 99 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,840 or concurrently, you can have a full kitchen, 100 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,520 but a sleeping unit is a different use type specific 101 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,560 to the building code, which is a sleeping area 102 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,180 that may include a living room, 103 00:08:27,660 --> 00:08:28,720 that is usually a bathroom, 104 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,140 or a kitchen facility, but not both, 105 00:08:31,500 --> 00:08:33,880 and that kitchen facility can only be a kitchenette. 106 00:08:34,060 --> 00:08:36,800 So it's like a small studio apartment, kind of. 107 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,240 I hope that'll help us cut down on trans and the conditions 108 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,260 and promote long-term financial and our downtown core. 109 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:50,660 Director, can you define the downtown core? 110 00:08:51,500 --> 00:08:55,360 Yes, I decided that the downtown historic district here is, basically, 111 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,880 fresh street up to the RVL roundabout. 112 00:09:00,580 --> 00:09:03,060 Downs Frames Street to Kane Street, 113 00:09:03,780 --> 00:09:07,600 Blair Street, and then over to Court Street, 114 00:09:07,940 --> 00:09:10,880 including the courthouse and the county legislative buildings. 115 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:17,840 and learn with not the planning and health department of the county. 116 00:09:18,220 --> 00:09:24,880 So, doesn't go up to Blair that way, kind of jogs a little bit, and goes down Web and Nichols. 117 00:09:26,100 --> 00:09:28,360 Nichols to B and C. Nichols to B. 118 00:09:31,860 --> 00:09:34,600 So, transient could be one night to nine. 119 00:09:35,380 --> 00:09:40,140 The transient is divided in our code by 30 days. Up to 30 days? Up to 30 days. 120 00:09:40,140 --> 00:09:45,820 Okay, but that's where we've had problems. They can rent once and 30 days for two nights, 121 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:52,100 and then the next night. Do you see what I'm saying? Yes, so they can't cobble together a lot of 122 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:58,320 one or two nine reservations, is that what you're saying? But they can still take something out of the 123 00:09:58,900 --> 00:10:03,240 year-round mental pool for transient because they're just renting, you know, for one or two nights. 124 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,120 We have some better shared competitors. Yeah. Yeah. 125 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:15,820 And we, well, we didn't go to force on it, so then you could have worked with some officers so that I'll have more time for us, which are, could have worked for a lot of time tracking down the change. 126 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:25,140 And just as everybody knows, we got a lot of chains in the confessions and are both, they found me and single found me a zone. So it's only in the commercials on them. They are allowed. 127 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,300 We have a nonconforming which is the parking. 128 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:31,380 I 129 00:10:35,150 --> 00:10:36,070 don't remember any bachelor. 130 00:10:36,230 --> 00:10:36,350 Yes. 131 00:10:36,510 --> 00:10:37,470 That's what my father did. 132 00:10:38,710 --> 00:10:39,970 I'm not going to want that. 133 00:10:40,630 --> 00:10:41,350 That's OK. 134 00:10:42,230 --> 00:10:46,410 So you're looking for a motion to motion. 135 00:10:46,530 --> 00:10:46,570 No. 136 00:10:47,190 --> 00:10:47,510 OK. 137 00:10:48,770 --> 00:10:49,970 That's at a discussion point. 138 00:10:50,210 --> 00:10:50,510 I just, 139 00:10:52,690 --> 00:10:54,610 and it's this is a time for discussion. 140 00:10:54,770 --> 00:10:56,070 I don't know if you want them to make the motion. 141 00:10:56,250 --> 00:10:59,090 And then it's we're actually moving into the public testimony. 142 00:11:02,470 --> 00:11:07,030 So for public testimony, everyone present will be given an opportunity to be heard. 143 00:11:07,390 --> 00:11:10,930 Only one person will be allowed to speak at a time for a duration of three minutes. 144 00:11:11,610 --> 00:11:16,090 We will proceed with in-person testimony followed by online testimony, then written testimony. 145 00:11:16,730 --> 00:11:21,310 The town clerk will be recording what is said, therefore when you address counsel, come 146 00:11:21,310 --> 00:11:25,030 to the podium and begin by stating your name in if you are a town resident. 147 00:11:25,030 --> 00:11:31,090 Please speak slowly and clearly. Any exhibit presented at this public hearing becomes part of the public record 148 00:11:31,090 --> 00:11:33,150 repeat aimed by 149 00:11:33,150 --> 00:11:36,670 Towning. Is there anyone in the audience who would like to testify? 150 00:11:42,020 --> 00:11:42,840 Do we have anybody online? 151 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,300 Do we have any written testimony? 152 00:11:47,300 --> 00:11:53,420 Okay, so we will close the hearing at 12.11 p.m. On August 6th, 153 00:11:53,420 --> 00:11:59,640 2026. Council, please discuss ordinance number 1841. Here's your discussion. 154 00:12:02,180 --> 00:12:04,980 I think I'll spend it as good ideas. 155 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,340 So we will need a motion then. You have 156 00:12:09,340 --> 00:12:12,900 a couple of different options. You can move to approve the ordinance as written. 157 00:12:13,340 --> 00:12:18,320 You can move to direct staff who amend and would need to provide those amendments 158 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:24,840 or move to deny ordinance number 1841. I'm totally in agreement of this, but I 159 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:30,080 I feel like this is August the heat of the summer, and the business community is not focusing 160 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,940 on this, and I just think in terms of full transparency about what we do, that we should get 161 00:12:34,940 --> 00:12:38,620 this out to the chambers, or the business community, so that they are aware of this news. 162 00:12:38,980 --> 00:12:40,520 It's supposed to be in these closed rooms. 163 00:12:41,220 --> 00:12:41,320 Yeah. 164 00:12:41,540 --> 00:12:42,160 That's good idea. 165 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:50,140 These things always seem to come up in the middle of the summer, but I know we've been talking 166 00:12:50,140 --> 00:12:53,820 about it for months, but then I just think there's no excuses that you don't know that this 167 00:12:53,820 --> 00:12:55,120 is happening. Right. 168 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:04,780 Okay. So you would like to direct staff to to publicize this and revisit this 169 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,440 when would you like to revisit it? Next meeting is fine. Just continue the hearing and I'm happy 170 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:15,020 to go. I'm happy to go to Becky and just say, hey, this is happy. Let's get in out my chamber. 171 00:13:15,100 --> 00:13:19,900 Because I think that's our relevant business community and then just continue the meeting and then 172 00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:23,040 have a vote next week. So I don't want to procrastinate this because I know that we had a deadline, 173 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,080 but I think in terms of good government, that would be a... 174 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,340 Okay, because we don't have a board meeting until September. 175 00:13:29,260 --> 00:13:33,960 Right, none of us are meeting during the summer, so we pretty much taped July and August 176 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:34,160 off. 177 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,800 So there wasn't even an opportunity for me to bring that up to my Salmon Island colleagues. 178 00:13:40,260 --> 00:13:46,380 The direction from staff was to compose findings of facts and conclusions of law. 179 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,560 Conclusions of law, so we're not approving this at the next meeting. 180 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:56,440 We're just directing staff to do the conclusions of law and finance facts. 181 00:13:57,020 --> 00:13:57,640 Is that correct? 182 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:58,980 That's what I'm reading here. 183 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:05,260 Well, I need to know if I'm writing those findings and backs as denial changes or approval. 184 00:14:06,020 --> 00:14:08,640 But and it's a point of order really quick. 185 00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:09,900 We did close the public hearings. 186 00:14:10,020 --> 00:14:11,740 So if we want to we can continue the deliberations. 187 00:14:12,180 --> 00:14:19,640 But if you want to and you have to reopen the public hearing at your continuation in order to accept more public hearing. 188 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:20,880 All right, that's the money. 189 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:21,440 Got it. 190 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:22,740 Which is fine. 191 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,780 I just don't see. 192 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,780 Between the real and the public hearing, if we're going to be able to delay it. 193 00:14:29,580 --> 00:14:29,800 Okay. 194 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:36,700 We will reopen the hearing at 12.14 p.m. on August 6, 2026, and then continue. 195 00:14:37,380 --> 00:14:37,860 Continue. 196 00:14:38,380 --> 00:14:38,860 Continuing? 197 00:14:39,220 --> 00:14:39,560 Yes. 198 00:14:40,060 --> 00:14:40,420 Continuing. 199 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:41,560 There was no comment. 200 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:42,140 Correct. 201 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:42,720 Makes sense. 202 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:43,500 Okay. 203 00:14:43,660 --> 00:14:46,220 So we are continuing the public hearing then to August 20. 204 00:14:46,220 --> 00:14:54,040 of speeding at which time you will take upon direction to help right out. 205 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,180 Yeah, great. All right. We will put on that to them the 20th. 206 00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:13,000 Should I move? And we're going to wait till next time. We're going to wait till next time. All right, we will close the public hearing at 12, 14, VM. Continue. Continue. I guess 20, 26. Yeah. 207 00:15:25,170 --> 00:15:25,630 Okay. 208 00:15:29,620 --> 00:15:33,880 So next on the list is some, 209 00:15:36,420 --> 00:15:45,800 and maybe we'll move ahead. Act. We'll do a quick discussion if you won't mind on what the council legislative. 210 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:52,860 the legislative priorities will be for August 20th meeting that is at joint meeting with San 211 00:15:52,860 --> 00:15:58,020 One County. Have you had a chance to really think about what your priorities are? 212 00:15:58,900 --> 00:16:02,640 I will be honest, a couple of the things that are on that list to talk about during that 213 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,600 joint meeting, one of them being the ferry task force. We postponed the last ferry meeting, 214 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:13,660 probably into September, I believe. So there's not going to be, that update will take literally 215 00:16:13,660 --> 00:16:18,740 about two minutes. Other than the standard answer that I usually give when people ask me about 216 00:16:18,740 --> 00:16:20,140 the fairies, it's not going well. 217 00:16:26,770 --> 00:16:30,750 Denise provided some reference point for you guys on exactly 218 00:16:30,750 --> 00:16:34,530 what AWC priorities are this year. I don't know if you've had a chance to review those. 219 00:16:43,370 --> 00:16:45,750 You've fairly reviewed the legislative priorities. 220 00:16:48,370 --> 00:16:49,850 However, I think it's important that 221 00:16:49,850 --> 00:16:55,710 you know whatever our priorities are with it stay there in alignment with the county too. So 222 00:16:56,110 --> 00:16:58,750 It will be a worthy discussion at which I mean another 20. 223 00:17:00,850 --> 00:17:04,310 Yeah, I know that they highlighted the mosquito fleet bill. 224 00:17:04,370 --> 00:17:06,050 And I think that's something that's worthy to talk about. 225 00:17:06,150 --> 00:17:08,510 Even though we're not talking about the fair advisory committee, 226 00:17:08,530 --> 00:17:11,050 but I think that's something that could really help our community. 227 00:17:11,490 --> 00:17:13,090 Well, and then we talked about it at the last day. 228 00:17:13,130 --> 00:17:13,290 Exactly. 229 00:17:13,810 --> 00:17:15,910 So if there's an update on that, that would be valuable. 230 00:17:17,750 --> 00:17:18,390 There isn't. 231 00:17:18,610 --> 00:17:22,610 I will have to talk to some of my colleagues because at last, 232 00:17:23,290 --> 00:17:25,790 I don't know if it's going to be reintroduced as a bill again. 233 00:17:27,050 --> 00:17:30,890 I would doubt it based on what I heard from the last session. 234 00:17:31,570 --> 00:17:32,390 You have 235 00:17:40,650 --> 00:17:45,970 legislated priorities with the Tannis provided under affordable housing and 236 00:17:45,970 --> 00:17:51,790 homelessness, which has increased connecting housing and infrastructure program investment. 237 00:17:53,010 --> 00:17:54,170 And I'm not sure what that means. 238 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:06,510 Among the second page of the e-mail account, it's a coffee hack on whether it's in the packet or not. 239 00:18:08,090 --> 00:18:11,390 Oh, it's, yeah, I think, you know, okay, let's start the packet. 240 00:18:11,970 --> 00:18:14,350 I'm just looking at these legislative priorities here, that way. 241 00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:14,650 Right. 242 00:18:14,650 --> 00:18:15,910 How do they prepare drinking water? 243 00:18:16,030 --> 00:18:18,150 It's your firm watering, gosh. 244 00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:23,310 I'm just wondering, as far as discussion of the county, 245 00:18:25,390 --> 00:18:29,750 you need to be a lineman on this, but I'm just going to look at what these things mean. 246 00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:33,370 on the agency and how it would apply to us in the carries 247 00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:41,170 on the statement here. 248 00:18:41,370 --> 00:18:44,470 And this is probably copied from the AWC notes. 249 00:18:45,870 --> 00:18:51,930 In cover, drinking water, sewer, strong water, cash, the flows, and flows, including sidewalks, 250 00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:56,970 frontage improvements, the impact fees, and other development cash driven by city requirements. 251 00:18:56,970 --> 00:19:01,910 And this will be specific towards affordable housing, you know, homeless issues. 252 00:19:03,930 --> 00:19:13,030 That's good, but I'm not sure if we could bring it up to make an impact for this particular 253 00:19:13,030 --> 00:19:18,350 verbiage is important to us in the town and the county, so that's a question I have. 254 00:19:20,890 --> 00:19:29,130 and public safety parties for impact on safety created by HB215 and I didn't have time 255 00:19:29,130 --> 00:19:36,750 to possess what that was by expanding the time frame to use existing grant funds given 256 00:19:36,750 --> 00:19:42,930 the delay in the start of the grant program. So it sounds good, but I'd like more information. 257 00:19:42,930 --> 00:19:54,450 Yeah, I think most importantly, this August 20th meeting is an opportunity for us really to just continue building on the relationship with the county, you know, there's some challenging roads ahead. 258 00:19:56,970 --> 00:20:07,950 And you know, I think we just we have an opportunity between us to really narrow our focus as to what our legislative priorities are going to be, because I do believe the LD40 group is going to be coming at some point. 259 00:20:07,950 --> 00:20:13,050 or some future meetings with them to really make sure that we share that same 260 00:20:13,050 --> 00:20:16,990 vision between the county and the town for what's important to all of us to make 261 00:20:16,990 --> 00:20:23,550 sure that that becomes important for that. So just I would say relatively 262 00:20:23,550 --> 00:20:28,770 shortly we need to make kind of firm up what priority is going to be as a group so 263 00:20:28,770 --> 00:20:32,850 that we can make sure that we share that be consistently with the county the 264 00:20:32,850 --> 00:20:33,330 next meeting. 265 00:20:36,130 --> 00:20:42,060 I said to them mention the ones that I've identified is the needs 266 00:20:42,060 --> 00:20:47,020 for the clarification and could work with the county in the town, but I need more information. 267 00:20:48,340 --> 00:20:50,440 And what was that item? 268 00:20:52,020 --> 00:20:53,300 The words 269 00:20:55,510 --> 00:21:02,050 affordable housing and homelessness and pervage provided in the email from 270 00:21:02,050 --> 00:21:13,290 companies and the book's savings, the HB, the 2015, and there was some other 271 00:21:13,290 --> 00:21:19,910 information about life as 20 readers. I'm not sure that's a local town issue, but I think 272 00:21:19,910 --> 00:21:27,010 it's brought up. It was brought up by AWC. It shouldn't be an issue for us, I don't think. 273 00:21:27,010 --> 00:21:28,410 So, my 274 00:21:31,860 --> 00:21:37,280 two cents, I'm going to align with what she said, Evan, about, let's just, you 275 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:42,460 know, continue rough table communications and work in establishing what makes sense for 276 00:21:42,460 --> 00:21:43,000 both of us. 277 00:21:44,100 --> 00:21:48,700 And I think the other discussion with the LD40 is that there's a lot of unfunded mandates 278 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,440 and revenue being so tight, I think we need to have that really candid discussion that we 279 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:58,280 cannot continue to do more at the low below revenue streams are drying up, their revenue 280 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,900 new streams drying up, so we need to figure out, you know, they cannot just continue to 281 00:22:01,900 --> 00:22:05,980 request things of us. I think that's a really important discussion because that's across the 282 00:22:05,980 --> 00:22:11,080 board and many different sectors. Well, and I think that's really important to communicate with 283 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:19,560 the oldie 40 in that, you know, they're pushing down, you know, they're going to get rid of the 284 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,200 priorities, but they're not willing to fund them, and they expect the county to pound the fund. 285 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,240 Right. Right. So, and we don't have those resources to see it? 286 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,440 No, so I think that's just a really good question. 287 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,340 Circle that back to the legislature, make some changes or delay it or something. 288 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:40,020 I will say at the conference that Denise Knight attended in Spokane, it was really shocking 289 00:22:40,020 --> 00:22:44,800 the number of towns and cities that are just absolutely struggling and are pretty terrified 290 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,260 collectively about the future. 291 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,260 We're fortunate here in that we've got some good infrastructure in place that we're continuously 292 00:22:51,260 --> 00:22:55,820 improving, but I know talking to one city that is running out of water. 293 00:22:55,820 --> 00:22:59,320 and the panic that is within the next two years, 294 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,080 they have to come up with some huge alternative plans 295 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,860 to make sure that they have access to water. 296 00:23:06,220 --> 00:23:08,880 Other cities financially are under siege right now, 297 00:23:09,020 --> 00:23:11,660 trying to figure out, one of the discussions we had 298 00:23:11,660 --> 00:23:13,460 and granted it was in an incredibly small town, 299 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,400 they are on the verge of making, I think, 300 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,760 well it sounds like a small issue, 301 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:21,960 I think it's a huge issue, 302 00:23:22,380 --> 00:23:24,340 they're probably gonna get rid of their website. 303 00:23:25,820 --> 00:23:33,380 Like for them, just the raising funds to redo their website, to comply with some of the 304 00:23:33,380 --> 00:23:39,780 new requirements for accessibility, they simply don't have the funds, and so they are 305 00:23:39,780 --> 00:23:42,460 legitimately talking about getting rid of their website. 306 00:23:42,820 --> 00:23:47,720 Which I can't fathom is a local government, but that's the struggles that a lot of our 307 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,140 cities and towns are facing right now. 308 00:23:50,140 --> 00:23:56,520 So, yeah, obviously we want to make sure we convey that to our legislative group and see 309 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,320 what would happen. 310 00:23:57,460 --> 00:23:57,980 So with that, so. 311 00:23:58,360 --> 00:23:58,500 Okay. 312 00:24:00,020 --> 00:24:07,720 All right, hopefully between Jan and I, we can want to work up a framework for, 313 00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:11,930 you know, 314 00:24:12,610 --> 00:24:18,710 there is also the possibility of postponing that meeting if we don't feel like we're ready 315 00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:19,190 for it. 316 00:24:20,820 --> 00:24:27,420 We can be ready and it's worth meeting, don't want to push off these conversations. 317 00:24:29,060 --> 00:24:35,920 And you know, middle of August, it's a couple of people gone, it's up like that gone on 318 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,860 so it might be prudent to postpone it. 319 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,700 I'm not sure if everybody else is so. 320 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:41,860 Yeah. 321 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:43,440 You're talking about that. 322 00:24:43,820 --> 00:24:48,360 If I'm going to postpone it, then once again we're faced with the issue of trying to court 323 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:59,020 and everybody's schedules and the county council are available and so although I'm happy 324 00:24:59,020 --> 00:24:59,820 either way. 325 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,500 We'll say I think that we scheduled it ultimately for August to make sure we are prepared for 326 00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:07,080 any future. 327 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,820 We'll keep it in place. 328 00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:11,460 That's okay. 329 00:25:12,020 --> 00:25:12,300 Do we? 330 00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:18,300 for sure. No, anything about the schedules for L.D. 40 and their presence. So come to the town. 331 00:25:19,420 --> 00:25:24,880 I don't. We just had Rick Larson's office on the island last week. Yeah, so. 332 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:33,160 Since County Administrator is present, I'm wondering if you have a comment that we 333 00:25:39,250 --> 00:25:41,910 Thank you, Mayor. I think you have counsel. I've been taking 334 00:25:41,910 --> 00:25:45,610 serious notes as you've gone along. I have some comments on a couple of these things. 335 00:25:47,890 --> 00:25:52,030 To rescheduling, it's entirely up to the will of two counsels. So if you all have conflicts 336 00:25:52,030 --> 00:25:56,030 or you're not prepared, I'm sure you're calling some of the county counsels that will be willing to 337 00:25:56,030 --> 00:26:00,250 entertain alternative dates and times because they want to have a really fruitful conversation with 338 00:26:00,250 --> 00:26:04,950 you all as well. I believe at this point, all three of them remain available to attend. 339 00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:08,770 I will not be there, but our deputy council manager told the rules will be in the 340 00:26:08,770 --> 00:26:09,090 distance. 341 00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:18,310 The early 40 scheduling has been fun series of back and forth because their schedules are 342 00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:21,870 also very impacted by the variety of things they have going on. 343 00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:27,950 Right now they are tentatively hoping to come up the morning of Wednesday, September 20th. 344 00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:34,070 So if there is interest in rescheduling, I would suggest that an opportunity will be to 345 00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:35,570 to try and find something before that date. 346 00:26:35,730 --> 00:26:37,330 So you all have some time to collectively talk 347 00:26:37,330 --> 00:26:38,490 about your plans for that. 348 00:26:39,610 --> 00:26:42,870 I believe the Council of August was still working 349 00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:46,190 to confirm one of the members of the committee. 350 00:26:46,690 --> 00:26:48,350 Also, I will go back and check on that. 351 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,540 You had mentioned the chip grants, 352 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,060 the Connecting Housing to Infrastructure Program. 353 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,720 If that is a literally a priority for the AWC, 354 00:27:00,860 --> 00:27:02,260 it's not currently for the County Council, 355 00:27:02,380 --> 00:27:04,800 but we, of course, at the county are also very interested 356 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,580 in chip funding. 357 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:11,760 So I think that's an area that you might have some coordination around and I can certainly 358 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:17,720 ensure that our either WK manager or our sheriff are available to talk further about 359 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:25,820 the impacts of hospital 2015, which was the piece that went along with the grant dollars 360 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,940 that government purposes put in place for public safety funding. 361 00:27:29,940 --> 00:27:36,260 the implementation of that grant program was very delayed. They didn't get it out for public 362 00:27:36,260 --> 00:27:41,200 awareness and applications until about a year after they had anticipated. They haven't currently 363 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:46,260 extended the time frame for use of those dollars, which is through June 30, 2020 right now. 364 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:54,940 The county has submitted an application for two deputies and vehicles. So it's about 560,000 per 365 00:27:54,940 --> 00:28:00,060 to your period. We submitted that application several months ago now, and do not yet have 366 00:28:00,060 --> 00:28:04,820 confirmation on if we are approved or if we will get that funding, but we haven't negotiated 367 00:28:04,820 --> 00:28:10,520 them back and forth with additional documentation. It's interesting. And I will wrap up by saying, 368 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:17,560 but I agree with Mayor's comments about website and the challenges that they can pose, particularly 369 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,340 for small jurisdictions. The county is going through a process right now to update our website 370 00:28:22,340 --> 00:28:26,260 to be compliant, but you're required to do that in the mid-2027. 371 00:28:26,820 --> 00:28:31,300 We have about 15,000 documents on our website which are not currently compliance, 372 00:28:31,820 --> 00:28:37,900 specifically PDFs, so something like your work packets or other packets, and they have to be 373 00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:44,400 made compliant for the ADA side of things to ensure that if you can't see pictures in them, 374 00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:46,880 there is a description of the graphics. 375 00:28:55,010 --> 00:28:55,430 Thank 376 00:28:58,250 --> 00:28:59,950 you so much, I appreciate your time. 377 00:29:03,910 --> 00:29:07,870 So I would suggest that we keep the meeting scheduled for the 20th. 378 00:29:08,050 --> 00:29:13,130 I just think that time will get away from us pretty quickly. 379 00:29:14,290 --> 00:29:15,130 So we'll be prepared. 380 00:29:16,050 --> 00:29:19,210 I think we have a pretty good framework of what is important to all of us. 381 00:29:19,490 --> 00:29:20,350 You talk about it a lot. 382 00:29:21,150 --> 00:29:21,310 Yeah. 383 00:29:22,370 --> 00:29:22,790 Okay. 384 00:29:22,790 --> 00:29:25,230 All right, we'll move on to director reports. 385 00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:31,730 We have a public work updated for lip-tack and be presenting on the Council Chamber Improvement 386 00:29:31,730 --> 00:29:35,790 Project and the need for a change order for the public parking lot improvement project. 387 00:29:36,030 --> 00:29:37,250 Thank you, Mayor and Council. 388 00:29:37,410 --> 00:29:38,730 We have a public work directive. 389 00:29:39,450 --> 00:29:41,010 Yeah, quick update on the chamber. 390 00:29:41,230 --> 00:29:44,910 We've got most of these information for the completion of the chamber project. 391 00:29:45,070 --> 00:29:49,190 And we have one with I don't need to do some architectural work in this wall. 392 00:29:49,330 --> 00:29:51,730 If you remember, we approved getting a pocket door. 393 00:29:52,210 --> 00:29:57,590 That's a substantial change to this wall, so we need some engineering work, so that's the last bit we need to have. 394 00:29:57,890 --> 00:29:59,410 We're still under budget as we are today. 395 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:26,680 Just to pick up date. Once we have that done, we should be able to get some time for each one to be completed. So we have all the bids and all the other items lined up. Bill occasionally, if you're in here, see a hole in the wall or so, that is part of the work to try to understand what is behind some of these walls. As you might imagine, we could build in this old, you know, the bids are based on what's expected to be there. And so we've got some more work to do on that part, particularly on each back of all of this wall. So the numbers may move slightly and I'll update you on that. 396 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,460 If you find any 100-year-old loose paperback there is savings. 397 00:30:34,340 --> 00:30:37,280 No, I don't think I'm eligible to buy that. 398 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:48,040 I can move on to the next one, which is resolution 3038. 399 00:30:49,060 --> 00:30:52,040 As you may remember, we've got a parking lot project. 400 00:30:54,020 --> 00:31:00,220 In looking at the placement of the planters, we've got on order, myself, and the 401 00:31:00,220 --> 00:31:04,780 vintage case, and Valerie's good look, we realized that, yeah, she's good to the next 402 00:31:04,780 --> 00:31:11,280 page, that the Chamberlain Fence is improving along the luck that property actually runs 403 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,280 into the two Chamberlain Fence pieces up front, and they're not in the greatest condition. 404 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,760 So we took a look at these and what also means, they want the portfolio condition. 405 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,520 And one on the northeast side is one you're showing right here, the two posts are actually 406 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,140 in pretty good shape. We'll be able to reuse those if this is fast. But that's actually 407 00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:33,060 a cattle panel just zip tied in there. So it's not even a real chanting fence piece or a sample. 408 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,920 And then if we go to the next one, I'm sorry. So are we, are you just talking about replacing the 409 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:47,180 two panels? Yeah, no cows. And then on the next one, on the southwest side, which is over against the 410 00:31:47,180 --> 00:31:51,800 on that side. That post in the background will be replaced as part of the original project. 411 00:31:52,540 --> 00:31:57,960 And then this section right here, that vertical post is both too long and not actually in the 412 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,640 ground right there. You can move that around if you wanted to to grab it. So this is to add that 413 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:09,240 section in as well too. So these two sections added in without slaps will be see-throughs. You can see 414 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:15,300 through them is about $2,000 as a change. This is still well within the budget that the accounts 415 00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:21,880 approved. Over the spring, the cost for the Quartan planters came in quite a bit less than 416 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,320 we thought they might, and so we're still within the budget by a good margin here. So this 417 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,620 doesn't cause a budget issue. It's more of a strategic, for instance. 418 00:32:29,860 --> 00:32:35,440 On the fence line between the working lot and the car quest, 419 00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:41,450 there might be a place 420 00:32:41,450 --> 00:32:46,690 as far as having bumbers, so that they don't ram cars into the fence and quick 421 00:32:46,690 --> 00:32:52,170 a gigantic incident, which is kind of the case now, but did I get parking bunkers to 422 00:32:52,770 --> 00:32:56,290 alleviate that or prevent that? So that's on the premise. I'll let the mayor speak to this. 423 00:32:57,410 --> 00:33:02,630 They do not. There are two things that I think are important to highlight. 424 00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:08,950 A, the new fencing will have slats. I think it'll be much easier to identify that a fence is there. 425 00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:16,590 And then we have offered to, at their expense, like the business, we've offered at their 426 00:33:16,590 --> 00:33:22,030 expense to pick up and have delivered the bumpers and install them for them, but they would 427 00:33:22,030 --> 00:33:23,130 be responsible for the cost. 428 00:33:23,510 --> 00:33:29,590 So I personally need to circle back and let them know that that work is happening soon, and 429 00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:30,270 then we're ready to go. 430 00:33:31,170 --> 00:33:31,550 That's great. 431 00:33:31,550 --> 00:33:32,250 We need to do that. 432 00:33:32,670 --> 00:33:33,050 Yes. 433 00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:33,750 Great. 434 00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:34,550 That's great. 435 00:33:34,770 --> 00:33:35,450 That's going to help. 436 00:33:35,450 --> 00:33:41,630 And that's going to happen at the same time so that whatever work we complete isn't disrupted by 437 00:33:42,830 --> 00:33:47,530 cars ramming into the car. I mean as legitimately as we were, I think first walking the property 438 00:33:47,530 --> 00:33:53,530 back in January, February, February, several cars were actually backed into the fence. So 439 00:33:54,830 --> 00:34:02,490 yeah. Are we going to put up jersey barriers? Yeah. I do think the slats will make it more identifiable 440 00:34:02,490 --> 00:34:03,810 that there's a fence there. 441 00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:08,930 And there'll be slots on both sides, so on that side, plus the other business side. 442 00:34:09,070 --> 00:34:10,490 We've worked with our bikes, they have a lot of slots. 443 00:34:10,810 --> 00:34:12,130 So you can see into the parking lot. 444 00:34:12,130 --> 00:34:14,370 Right, but on the southwest side, no, on the up. 445 00:34:14,630 --> 00:34:15,550 Can you count the other? 446 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,240 So again. So we're not replacing any of the ifs. 447 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,460 Okay. So there's no slots being out. 448 00:34:27,460 --> 00:34:29,320 So only the slots on the left side. 449 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,320 Okay, perfect. 450 00:34:31,580 --> 00:34:35,060 It makes sense that you wouldn't want to put slots, using the streets. 451 00:34:35,580 --> 00:34:37,540 No, no, but that was just thinking on the other business side. 452 00:34:37,540 --> 00:34:42,460 Oh, okay. That's like between what the tree is. 453 00:34:42,860 --> 00:34:47,620 Yeah, but I don't think that's actually kind of a nice view compared to looking at it. 454 00:34:47,620 --> 00:34:48,920 It is. A car lot. Yeah. 455 00:34:49,220 --> 00:34:52,140 In the discussion at the time, just to give you some background on this, 456 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,580 there were some concerns about being able to see the defense on that side for safety reasons, 457 00:34:56,580 --> 00:34:58,140 because there's that part in the lot in the back. 458 00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,900 I don't care all the location. 459 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,880 So, at least those of us who were talking at the time, 460 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,320 that was why we did not consider putting slats in the minutes. 461 00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:24,210 So, I would like to have a motion for Resolution No. 3038, the Change Order No. 1 to the 462 00:35:24,210 --> 00:35:30,150 contract with Discount Fence for the Public Parking Law Agreement Project. This would be for the 463 00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:31,310 additional panels in the front. 464 00:35:37,390 --> 00:35:46,510 We approve Resolution No. 3038, change order No. 1, adding the panels to the front of the fence and the other improvements as 465 00:35:46,510 --> 00:35:51,370 an inemorated by a direct elliptic for the public parking lot improvement project. 466 00:35:51,910 --> 00:36:01,550 Second. Great. It's been moved and seconded to approve Resolution No. 3038, change order No. 1 to the contract with discount fence for the public parking lot improvement project. 467 00:36:02,410 --> 00:36:03,090 All the favour? 468 00:36:03,550 --> 00:36:03,670 All right. 469 00:36:04,690 --> 00:36:05,370 Motion carries. 470 00:36:06,610 --> 00:36:08,050 Mr. Lipteck, you're back up again. 471 00:36:08,410 --> 00:36:09,090 Yes, I am. 472 00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:10,230 Thank you, Mayor. 473 00:36:11,110 --> 00:36:13,370 I'm here to talk about, you deserve a free night. 474 00:36:13,570 --> 00:36:14,970 It's a little more complex than the last one. 475 00:36:15,050 --> 00:36:16,310 I just spoke about that. 476 00:36:16,450 --> 00:36:16,730 Apologies. 477 00:36:17,150 --> 00:36:18,230 I can't believe you're back up here. 478 00:36:18,330 --> 00:36:18,710 Because we can. 479 00:36:18,850 --> 00:36:20,510 This has come up rapidly. 480 00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:21,910 We're in line with this. 481 00:36:22,190 --> 00:36:25,130 So can you give you some back to come on what has happened here? 482 00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:30,710 Four years ago, the economic loss of property and the dam were asked to replace the dam itself. 483 00:36:31,630 --> 00:36:40,510 infrastructure to safety reasons. Getting that through permitting and so on has taken four years, so although we were aware this was coming up, we didn't know when it was going to happen. 484 00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:45,890 We got the engineering reports. This was almost ready to go. 485 00:36:47,050 --> 00:36:54,890 And so I reached out to the owner of the time because we have some infrastructure for the water department that goes both through the stand and across the pond itself. 486 00:36:54,890 --> 00:37:01,870 I'm talking a little bit about that instruction, but I got some ideas from Boston who is going 487 00:37:01,870 --> 00:37:02,490 to do this. 488 00:37:02,650 --> 00:37:04,170 There's their dam and their pond. 489 00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:09,050 Potentially replacing some of the infrastructure that we have in the pond and everything. 490 00:37:09,710 --> 00:37:13,770 There's two reasons we need to do this when they replace the dam, which they've already done. 491 00:37:14,070 --> 00:37:17,630 They already took one of our pipes out and we'll either have to put one back, or when we have, 492 00:37:17,770 --> 00:37:20,010 or replace it and I'll talk about that in a moment. 493 00:37:20,430 --> 00:37:22,850 And then there's the actual pipe across the pond itself. 494 00:37:22,850 --> 00:37:25,490 And these are some pictures of it right here in this yesterday. 495 00:37:26,090 --> 00:37:29,510 I got the bid from them just yesterday, so again, I'll use for this being short. 496 00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:34,330 And the reason this is under some time pressure is that getting the dam replaced 497 00:37:34,330 --> 00:37:35,930 before it starts raining is critical. 498 00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:38,950 They only have a very limited amount of time to do this work. 499 00:37:39,170 --> 00:37:41,330 So that's why I was kind of pressed for time. 500 00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:45,770 That third picture, although it's hard to see, is actually the missing dam. 501 00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:49,010 That's all the dirt removed, including our pipe, which was there. 502 00:37:49,010 --> 00:37:53,570 So this is the pipe negotiation log one that pumps water up and into traveling as an additional 503 00:37:53,570 --> 00:38:00,090 water source for us as part of the water reservoir. This pipe is quite old and is made out of 504 00:38:00,090 --> 00:38:04,230 fiberglass, and this is one of the problems that we've met with about this pipe. In the last 20 years, 505 00:38:04,490 --> 00:38:09,050 we've spent, that said, I've just done five times an average of about $5.5 which was fine. 506 00:38:09,370 --> 00:38:14,330 It seems to be about $1,025,000 on this pipe already because it tends to bring 507 00:38:15,690 --> 00:38:19,850 It is far less pipe, there is only one company that makes this pipe in a different special 508 00:38:19,850 --> 00:38:20,230 order. 509 00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:24,310 So, when we have had to fix it, it has also been quite difficult to fix with special 510 00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:24,990 parts. 511 00:38:25,610 --> 00:38:29,650 So, what we would like to do, and we have always planned to do, was to place the pipe with 512 00:38:29,650 --> 00:38:31,910 HDP pipe, which is now involved. 513 00:38:32,410 --> 00:38:32,630 Yes. 514 00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:37,410 That is the thing that we used on the transmission one, the current waste current, HDP. 515 00:38:37,950 --> 00:38:41,510 So, this is not the pipe that you would see in the main that we would connect to for somebody 516 00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:46,130 service. That's a different kind of PVC pipe that accepts that. It's better. This is more 517 00:38:46,130 --> 00:38:50,670 resilient to ground movement and other things like this. This is a pipe that should last 100 years, 518 00:38:50,750 --> 00:38:54,530 for example, it's a static life span. In fact, they don't really know the end, but that's 519 00:38:54,530 --> 00:39:00,490 pretty into the life. So we had planned on doing this project when we would know when the timing was. 520 00:39:00,490 --> 00:39:05,170 We were a little bit surprised by it being right at. And so that's why I'm here. If you want a short 521 00:39:05,170 --> 00:39:10,810 notice on this one. So as part of the overall project, it's more than just a pipe you will see in 522 00:39:10,810 --> 00:39:14,530 in your packet, if you want to think about it on itself, 523 00:39:14,830 --> 00:39:17,370 and you can see kind of a quick outline 524 00:39:17,370 --> 00:39:18,250 of where things are. 525 00:39:18,410 --> 00:39:20,550 There are at least two vowels that we put in. 526 00:39:21,390 --> 00:39:22,490 If we replace some piping, 527 00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:24,870 we need to be able to test that section of pipe 528 00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:26,250 and also to be sure, 529 00:39:26,490 --> 00:39:28,550 but now there is not a valve over this section, 530 00:39:28,750 --> 00:39:30,370 so you have to shut the entire line off 531 00:39:30,370 --> 00:39:31,430 if you want to do anything. 532 00:39:32,890 --> 00:39:35,190 Um, yeah, starting to make each end of the level 533 00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:35,570 where to go. 534 00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:38,470 So you can see where across the pond right there, 535 00:39:38,610 --> 00:39:40,650 actually pipe this back directly across the pond 536 00:39:40,650 --> 00:39:45,230 as it's gone down, if you read about it, look, it's gotten a big bow in and towards the south. 537 00:39:45,570 --> 00:39:49,210 One of the reasons why the fiping amount that we need is a little more of the distance 538 00:39:49,210 --> 00:39:57,110 you see in this picture. It does have anchors on the bottom which have to be removed and then replace 539 00:39:57,110 --> 00:40:03,170 their concrete anchors with the stainless steel channel. It's been removed temporarily as they go 540 00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:05,450 right now, the pond is down over 10 feet right now, 541 00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:06,990 and it's going to go out that way. 542 00:40:07,390 --> 00:40:08,210 You might notice that. 543 00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:12,530 So what we need are some control valves 544 00:40:12,530 --> 00:40:14,730 and either end of this pipe if we replace it. 545 00:40:15,130 --> 00:40:17,330 There are two options I have in front of you go here. 546 00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:20,570 So one option is to replace the pipe across the pond itself. 547 00:40:21,090 --> 00:40:22,250 That's the fibroblast pipe. 548 00:40:22,250 --> 00:40:23,710 You saw pictures on it with the graph. 549 00:40:23,710 --> 00:40:25,050 One of these graph actually we're 550 00:40:25,050 --> 00:40:26,270 going to have to fix that either way. 551 00:40:27,130 --> 00:40:28,470 And that's one part of the point. 552 00:40:28,570 --> 00:40:30,630 That's about 50,000 dollars to do that part. 553 00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:38,790 The other possible part is in the dam itself, which they already removed was a ductile iron piece of pipe that we use for this part of our project. 554 00:40:39,390 --> 00:40:51,590 That is an older 30 year old piece of pipe. It should last 50 years or so, but while the dam is open or fought as this is the time to put the new pipe in place because right now there's ductile iron in there. 555 00:40:51,590 --> 00:40:54,290 He can put it back for no costs on that side. 556 00:40:54,450 --> 00:40:58,030 So that's why it's 50 or 70 as you see in the two costs here. 557 00:40:59,650 --> 00:41:02,550 So the only caution I would have to not 558 00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:05,490 replace in the pipe right now is that again, 559 00:41:05,610 --> 00:41:08,010 it's got maybe 20 years who was a long, long life. 560 00:41:08,310 --> 00:41:12,750 And then we had to get to that pipe because it broke or when it does break, 561 00:41:12,750 --> 00:41:14,010 it's going to be very expensive. 562 00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:15,590 I looked at a couple of bids. 563 00:41:16,310 --> 00:41:18,450 I have a million dollars to touch the dam, something like that, 564 00:41:18,490 --> 00:41:21,430 because it's quite difficult to touch the dam with what you have to 565 00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:26,110 drain and it's not so much stuff. So our thought is while we log out the dam open, we put the 566 00:41:26,110 --> 00:41:31,350 face of the other agent section and do it all the way across. So those are the two options that 567 00:41:31,350 --> 00:41:35,610 are sort of before even I can talk about funding and just defend, but I want to stop and make sure 568 00:41:35,610 --> 00:41:40,310 there's not any questions about the technical subject of quick question. For my benefit and 569 00:41:40,310 --> 00:41:48,350 anybody watching or listening, HDP is, I guess the polyethic, polyethic, okay. So this is the more 570 00:41:48,350 --> 00:41:52,350 robbery pipe. If you've ever had pipe put into your house, it's not PDC, but more 571 00:41:52,350 --> 00:41:56,650 through the website. Okay. And it is actually a hot fuse, so there are not connections. 572 00:41:57,050 --> 00:42:00,850 Another advantage of it, it's actually welded together, so it becomes one piece, the entire 573 00:42:00,850 --> 00:42:06,150 distance. The fiberglass, as you saw there, has connectors. And that one good try took is just 574 00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:10,490 the nearest one, and it is broken. So, correct. As an example. 575 00:42:11,850 --> 00:42:16,230 Is fiberglass worse for the environment than what we would be replacing it with? 576 00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:22,970 That would be a judgment fault. Both of them are plastic-based products, by private glasses, 577 00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:29,670 plastic around, around the glass, right? And ATP is a common plastic case in today. So I don't know 578 00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:36,650 that you could say one is better for the environment. The plastic without the fiber in it definitely 579 00:42:36,650 --> 00:42:42,130 has less risk of it when it breaks a bit in the environment aside from this chunks of plastic. 580 00:42:42,130 --> 00:42:46,710 So, I would think that this is just my own judgment that that would be slightly better. 581 00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:51,710 It is longer-lived, so if we put fiberglass in there both the next 300 years, we would 582 00:42:51,710 --> 00:42:53,390 do that multiple times from 10th. 583 00:42:53,830 --> 00:42:57,870 First, the HDP is likely to last a long time, especially in the ground. 584 00:42:58,610 --> 00:43:05,750 So, with the same stuff you see on those trucks on the highway, those big turquoise pipes that 585 00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:07,610 are strapped to the flatbed trucks. 586 00:43:07,890 --> 00:43:08,090 Yeah. 587 00:43:08,090 --> 00:43:08,190 Yeah. 588 00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:08,590 Yeah. 589 00:43:09,150 --> 00:43:14,930 The reality is when I toured the water facility in Trial Lake, it was pretty obvious at that 590 00:43:14,930 --> 00:43:16,950 point that the piping need to be replaced. 591 00:43:17,470 --> 00:43:18,590 This is the perfect time to do it. 592 00:43:18,690 --> 00:43:19,650 They're already draining it. 593 00:43:19,790 --> 00:43:20,390 They're all working. 594 00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:21,030 All the work. 595 00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:22,490 Makes sense. 596 00:43:22,690 --> 00:43:23,230 Let's do it now. 597 00:43:24,730 --> 00:43:25,750 That's not done. 598 00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:26,130 Exactly. 599 00:43:26,370 --> 00:43:26,510 Yeah. 600 00:43:26,910 --> 00:43:27,370 That's right. 601 00:43:28,590 --> 00:43:30,850 Let me talk just briefly about the funding sites. 602 00:43:31,010 --> 00:43:33,930 We did not have this in the budget, so there was need to be a bucket of them into this. 603 00:43:34,090 --> 00:43:35,850 I talked to our financial team next question. 604 00:43:36,650 --> 00:43:44,370 So right now, our water operating fund for the capital repairs fund, we have only 25,000 605 00:43:44,370 --> 00:43:45,250 in that fund right now. 606 00:43:45,630 --> 00:43:50,210 So talking with our financial team downstairs, all three of them that is our consultant 607 00:43:50,210 --> 00:43:55,610 Bethany Heather and Leslie, we do have in the water operating fund almost $1.2 million 608 00:43:55,610 --> 00:43:58,430 right now, which is part of our backup, if you like. 609 00:43:59,050 --> 00:44:03,570 And so the proposal we need to transfer the money necessary from this, from the water operating 610 00:44:03,570 --> 00:44:06,430 in front of the capital repairable fund as well. 611 00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:08,350 And in fact, I wouldn't need that as an emotion 612 00:44:08,350 --> 00:44:10,130 before we move to the next phase. 613 00:44:12,170 --> 00:44:14,090 And totally needs to be moved. 614 00:44:14,510 --> 00:44:16,550 So we need, from talking with them, 615 00:44:16,670 --> 00:44:19,310 they believe we should move the $75,000 charge. 616 00:44:19,570 --> 00:44:21,050 It's actually aiding with that. 617 00:44:21,170 --> 00:44:22,670 But they suspect the $75,000. 618 00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:25,310 That way, we would end up with about 20,000 in that fund. 619 00:44:25,470 --> 00:44:27,530 If we had other repairs, we need to do that. 620 00:44:28,250 --> 00:44:29,750 So that was the problem now. 621 00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:32,870 without coming to you for another change in the market. 622 00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:37,490 And then that 1.2 that's there, that was also dedicated for the filter. 623 00:44:37,950 --> 00:44:39,570 Right? That's some of the other projects that we were doing. 624 00:44:40,190 --> 00:44:43,330 Our portion of the filter over the next 20 years will come from that, 625 00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:45,690 but there's not a good charge coming out of that right now, 626 00:44:45,930 --> 00:44:47,510 and to do my understanding. 627 00:44:48,210 --> 00:44:50,570 Okay, because that project is on the horizon. 628 00:44:51,010 --> 00:44:52,230 The horizon is on the horizon. 629 00:44:52,410 --> 00:44:55,510 Yeah, that we're right now making payments against the law. 630 00:44:57,610 --> 00:44:59,970 Okay, so that money is not for you, it's not for you. 631 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,720 That would not affect the money that we have allocated. Okay. 632 00:45:06,060 --> 00:45:27,640 So the first thing I would need is, is a motion to move the money between those two funds. And then we can talk about the doubt that two options. So we need a motion to move $75,000 from our water fund to our general repair fund from our from our water operating fund to our capital repair water capital repair fund. Okay. 633 00:45:38,900 --> 00:45:41,500 Obviously, if we're not going to do three or three, nine, we shouldn't move the money. 634 00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:45,500 So, I guess they are tied, but I need that one to do the other one, so. 635 00:45:45,860 --> 00:45:51,380 So, I move that we approved $75,000 to move from the water operating fund to the water 636 00:45:51,380 --> 00:45:57,400 capital repair fund, an appropriation of approving a resolution number 3039. 637 00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:58,560 Second. 638 00:45:59,280 --> 00:45:59,660 Great. 639 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:00,360 It has been moved. 640 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:01,160 Yes. 641 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,940 It has been moved and seconded to move $75,000 from our water operating fund to our water capital 642 00:46:06,940 --> 00:46:07,500 repair fund. 643 00:46:09,420 --> 00:46:10,860 All in favour? 644 00:46:11,220 --> 00:46:11,480 Aye. 645 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,680 Motion carries. 646 00:46:13,540 --> 00:46:15,800 Moving on to Resolution No. 3039. 647 00:46:16,140 --> 00:46:24,240 Rising in contract with Lawson Construction for Water Supply Infrastructure associated with the Lawson Dam and Pond Training Project. 648 00:46:26,140 --> 00:46:27,040 Do we hear a motion? 649 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,780 I'm at the motion to approve the resolution. 650 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:38,380 We're three in 0, 3, 9, agorizing the Tom County Tool 3. 651 00:46:38,740 --> 00:46:43,520 We're just going to contract with Lawson Construction for Water Supply Infrastructure 652 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,240 associated with the Lawson Dam and Palm Training Project. 653 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:54,060 Second, and to clarify your motion that we're doing the whole 70,000 per my motion before 654 00:46:54,060 --> 00:46:54,220 that. 655 00:46:54,220 --> 00:47:04,160 I feel like you needed to have those 8,000, 8,000, 8,000, 8,000, so I'll recent my motion 656 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,340 and amend my motion or amend my motion. 657 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:15,580 Okay, so it's moved and seconded to approve resolution number 3039, authorizing a contract 658 00:47:15,580 --> 00:47:20,200 with loss and construction for water supply infrastructure associated with the loss and 659 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,680 dam and pond draining project. 660 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:22,800 All in favor? 661 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,180 motion carries. Thank you. Thank you. 662 00:47:31,110 --> 00:47:34,870 So we'll move to public comments. We have anybody for public comment. 663 00:47:36,190 --> 00:47:37,450 We have anybody online. 664 00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:45,920 All right moving to future agenda items. We have any future agenda items 665 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:50,980 anybody would like to add. I don't have a future agenda item. I probably shouldn't have done this 666 00:47:50,980 --> 00:47:58,720 under announcements. At the beginning of the meeting, but we are going to conduct another leadership 667 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:01,900 should send one island's class this fall and spring. 668 00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:05,860 And we've already got seven applications 669 00:48:05,860 --> 00:48:07,440 and starting in December. 670 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:12,020 So we've got a whole bunch online. 671 00:48:12,420 --> 00:48:15,120 It's part of some modified information for the website. 672 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,140 So we encourage people to check it out if they're interested 673 00:48:19,140 --> 00:48:23,080 or anybody that you think might be interested in 674 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,580 putting town and county staff. 675 00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:39,140 And I also want to mention that Denise sent out an email about the video that you also 676 00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:44,840 his presentation at the AWC conference, 13 ways to kill your community. 677 00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:47,640 It is a fabulous look. 678 00:48:48,060 --> 00:48:48,820 I'm reading it right now. 679 00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:51,180 It's an extension getter title. 680 00:48:51,380 --> 00:48:51,700 That's good. 681 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,520 It's probably one of the best public speakers I've heard in your 682 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,660 presentation was marvellous. 683 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,100 It's a good video. 684 00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:05,500 It's very similar and you'll remember Roger Brooks. 685 00:49:06,020 --> 00:49:08,600 It's pretty much the same content material. 686 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,380 But it's always a good reminder to keep this stuff in focus. 687 00:49:14,740 --> 00:49:16,200 Anyhow, that's it for me. 688 00:49:17,140 --> 00:49:17,400 Thanks. 689 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:26,080 I would like to have a discussion with council about the idea of putting solar panels on 690 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,820 one or more town buildings. 691 00:49:29,620 --> 00:49:36,740 Before I'm ready to have that introduce that discussion, I'm going to try to meet with 692 00:49:36,740 --> 00:49:42,620 some people from O'Palco to get some more specific information and share so we're not trying 693 00:49:42,620 --> 00:49:46,480 to make a decision in the vacuum as to whether or not 694 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,320 want to pursue that possibility. 695 00:49:48,740 --> 00:49:49,800 Yeah, I think it's a good idea. 696 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,660 In your discussions with them, but might be valuable 697 00:49:52,660 --> 00:49:57,820 to find out what percentage of our local town power is going to come 698 00:49:57,820 --> 00:49:59,060 from their solar projects. 699 00:49:59,560 --> 00:49:59,660 Right? 700 00:50:00,420 --> 00:50:03,660 So that would be something I would talk with them about. 701 00:50:04,780 --> 00:50:07,600 And that's Mark Mason still in the, yes. 702 00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:09,240 Talk with them. 703 00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:11,410 Okay. 704 00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:17,210 All right, if there's nothing else, I will go back to because I skipped the San Juan County report. 705 00:50:17,710 --> 00:50:21,410 Just got to know you've already spoken, but you're more than welcome to. 706 00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:23,750 I apologize. 707 00:50:25,730 --> 00:50:30,510 Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Council. Thank you, Mayor. Sorry, have it. Thank you, Mayor, thank you, 708 00:50:30,570 --> 00:50:36,430 Council. Just a few other things that are going on in the county. As I was listening to some of your 709 00:50:36,430 --> 00:50:37,970 or capital projects and coming. 710 00:50:38,290 --> 00:50:40,490 You may have noticed that our legislative building 711 00:50:40,490 --> 00:50:42,070 has some challenges with exciting. 712 00:50:42,770 --> 00:50:45,170 We are working right now with allocated funding 713 00:50:45,170 --> 00:50:46,810 to support residing in that building. 714 00:50:47,390 --> 00:50:48,890 This is a little shabby. 715 00:50:49,690 --> 00:50:51,190 We're working on this right now. 716 00:50:51,210 --> 00:50:52,910 We're hoping to follow up on the work 717 00:50:52,910 --> 00:50:53,950 that's happening in the state 718 00:50:53,950 --> 00:50:56,090 because they would already have people deployed here. 719 00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:59,710 Sly right onto that, we'll step over here. 720 00:50:59,890 --> 00:51:01,030 So I think it would be a nice little piece 721 00:51:01,030 --> 00:51:03,890 of something happening in an urgent space here. 722 00:51:03,890 --> 00:51:08,150 Most of the rest of our county council's energy continues to be focused on the budget. 723 00:51:08,330 --> 00:51:12,330 I feel like we're carrying out our agenda back and forth on this broken record for a while now. 724 00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:18,130 At this point, the county council heard continued updates on the budget. 725 00:51:18,290 --> 00:51:22,590 Their office third meeting specifically about some proposed reorganization and the impacts to our 726 00:51:22,590 --> 00:51:26,750 county sense budget there, as well as to some potential revenue streams that they might want to 727 00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:30,970 consider. Continue considering and they will pick up the conversation. She again, 728 00:51:30,970 --> 00:51:32,670 and Auditor presents a preliminary 729 00:51:32,670 --> 00:51:35,690 at the Stratt budget on August 25th. 730 00:51:35,850 --> 00:51:37,470 So those are our next steps on the budgets. 731 00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:40,850 We also just wrapped up the primary. 732 00:51:41,210 --> 00:51:42,570 So we now have two candidates 733 00:51:42,570 --> 00:51:43,850 that are going to continue to work 734 00:51:43,850 --> 00:51:44,970 for the district three staff 735 00:51:44,970 --> 00:51:46,790 that Councilmember Foley will be vacating 736 00:51:47,350 --> 00:51:50,030 and see what come back to that number. 737 00:51:50,510 --> 00:51:52,370 But otherwise, it's a lovely summer. 738 00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:54,650 I hope you all get some time away to enjoy it 739 00:51:54,650 --> 00:51:56,930 and look forward to the joining up thing. 740 00:51:57,490 --> 00:51:59,030 I'm happy to answer your questions, Laura. 741 00:51:59,030 --> 00:52:05,750 I am just curious, so the budget, what point is the budget get approved and do you announce 742 00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:07,570 any changes? 743 00:52:08,270 --> 00:52:08,730 Great question. 744 00:52:09,270 --> 00:52:13,870 So, when the auditor presents the draft delivery budget on August 25th, she is not setting 745 00:52:13,870 --> 00:52:14,610 up for curing. 746 00:52:15,130 --> 00:52:17,150 She's not having a public hearing at that point. 747 00:52:17,470 --> 00:52:22,910 They set the first day of the public hearing, it is whatever our first October meeting is, 748 00:52:23,010 --> 00:52:25,170 October 5th, which is somewhere in there. 749 00:52:25,170 --> 00:52:29,830 Typically, we hold a couple of extra days as well because we can have a lot of comments 750 00:52:29,830 --> 00:52:32,270 and they may wish to make changes. 751 00:52:32,770 --> 00:52:37,990 We try and adopt it no later than the end of November on our meeting, then it's the 752 00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:39,030 Tuesday before Thanksgiving. 753 00:52:39,690 --> 00:52:44,290 I think knowing that we've done a lot of preliminary work already, counsel on your process 754 00:52:44,290 --> 00:52:50,450 through all June to identify about 3.7 or 3.8 million reductions and many of those have 755 00:52:50,450 --> 00:52:56,750 impact on people and programs. I would guess that they're going to try and do it earlier 756 00:52:56,750 --> 00:53:03,090 just so that there's not so much of people around what may come and what may be. So sometime 757 00:53:03,090 --> 00:53:10,050 in October, remember time frame is out of discussion. Okay, great. Thank you. You're welcome. Any 758 00:53:10,050 --> 00:53:13,550 other questions? Great. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you. 759 00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:16,150 All 760 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,420 right. So if there's 761 00:53:22,420 --> 00:53:32,220 something else. We'll go ahead and adjourn the meeting at 12.53pm on August 6, 2026. Thank you so much. 762 00:53:39,700 --> 00:53:42,740 I keep trying to, I keep trying to talk fast.