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[1:46] All right. So the time being 12 o' 1 p.m. I will call this August 6th meeting of the town council to order Jennifer which these call the role yes male. Presidents.
[2:08] Here.
[2:09] That's all.
[2:10] Great.
[2:10] Thank you so much if you would please join me in the salute to the flag.
[2:16] I see.
[2:16] So they just see the model of the United States of America.
[2:21] Oh.
[2:22] Please.
[2:23] One of the things I'm going to be glad in your physical with the teaching that the squirrel
[2:29] is not present.
[2:34] Excellent.
[2:35] So in regards to the agenda, are there any changes or additions to the agenda?
[2:42] Okay.
[2:43] So our agenda sets, just a few things are sadly our training for today, it's been postponed.
[2:51] Oh, I know. Sorry. Okay. However, Jen, I assume we'll set us up with if you want to do the
[3:00] training on your own individually, you're able to do that. So we'll talk about that later.
[3:06] There is a request that came in for a proclamation that will be on August 20th, agenda, and that
[3:16] was in regards to an honorary street name for honoring Vern Howard.
[3:22] So Kevin Holmes will be presenting that.
[3:25] He has had a petition of over 300 signatures, so he will be presenting that Council Member
[3:31] the Freedis and Council Member Hushback have agreed to sponsor that, so we'll learn more about that at the next meeting.
[3:39] Also, so Council is aware we have an emergency resolution, number 3039, authorizing a contract with loss and construction,
[3:46] water supply infrastructure associated with the loss and dam and pond draining project.
[3:52] So we added that to agenda, we'll talk about that today, and that resolution options will be presented by Public Works Director Mike Lipdeck later.
[4:00] And I would love to introduce our newest employee, David Barnes, from the Water Distribution
[4:04] Department.
[4:05] Well, hi.
[4:07] Hi.
[4:07] I see a lot of you.
[4:09] Nice to meet you.
[4:10] I don't know if you want me to just say hello.
[4:13] Sure.
[4:15] You can say as much as you would like, David.
[4:17] It was a little.
[4:18] Thanks, Pat.
[4:20] Great.
[4:20] Thanks so much for coming.
[4:21] We appreciate it.
[4:21] And welcome to the town.
[4:23] I appreciate it.
[4:24] Thank you.
[4:24] Thank you.
[4:25] Thank you.
[4:25] Yes.
[4:28] So we'll move on to public comment. Each commenter has allocated three minutes to make
[4:32] comment, to make public comment. Please approach the podium. State your first and last name and whether
[4:38] you live inside town limits. If you're online, please raise your hand using your device and you will
[4:43] be called on and unmuted. Is there anybody for public comments here? Yeah, just like nobody.
[4:49] No, anybody online? Yeah. Excellent. Moving on. So for the consent agenda,
[4:56] Has council reviewed the consent agenda?
[4:59] Yes.
[4:59] Yes.
[4:59] Are there any questions?
[5:01] No.
[5:02] Do I hear a motion for approval?
[5:05] Yes.
[5:05] I move that we approve the August 6, 21, 6, consent agenda has written.
[5:11] Second.
[5:12] Great.
[5:12] It has been moved and seconded to approve the consent agenda for August 6, 20, 26.
[5:17] All those in favor?
[5:18] Aye.
[5:18] Any opposed?
[5:20] No.
[5:20] Motion carries.
[5:24] We have resolution number 3, 0, 3, 7.
[5:28] Authorizing, public sale of used equipment deemed surplus.
[5:32] That was part of the consent agenda, yes, ever mind.
[5:37] Yeah, that's to me.
[5:41] So we'll do a public hearing on ordinance number 1841 regarding transient accommodations.
[5:46] The purpose of this public hearing is for the council to hear from the public and consider
[5:50] pertinent facts related to proposed ordinance number 1841 regarding transient accommodations.
[5:58] So the public hearing for ordinance number 81841 regarding transient accommodations is now open.
[6:05] The time being 205 p.m. the date is August 6th, 2026, we'll hear from staff, then the public
[6:12] will have the opportunity to provide public testimony after which the hearing will be closed.
[6:17] Community Development Director Erickson, do you have anything you would like to add?
[6:21] And just for something briefly,
[6:23] right
[6:28] now I think we build directorie just wanted to highlight that some of the standards for the change in accommodation.
[6:34] So we've broken out so that only applies in the historic downhound district as opposed to the entire commercial area.
[6:41] There's no counsel for that aware of that.
[6:44] You like those conditions to be applied everywhere that you have to amend the work.
[6:49] And specifically that is like the Florida ratio requiring to be a make-use building and things like that.
[6:55] Let me discuss the last time you do preliminary in this.
[7:03] Excuse me, Ryan. Can you expand on that just a little bit?
[7:08] Yeah.
[7:08] With the original tutorial accomplished for us.
[7:11] So if you use any more convertibles of commercial,
[7:16] if you used to have to provide equal commercial areas,
[7:20] so they'll cut down on the competition's commercial uses to chance you.
[7:24] uses in new buildings. It all has to be a mixed use building and the mixed uses on the ground floor
[7:31] used to be a commercial or non-transient use. We have floor area ratios where and the new mixed
[7:37] use only 20% of the building floor area can be used as a transient combination and those are all
[7:43] for the downtown district. And so then parking is the same, I guess we can't buy out of parking
[7:53] for transit accommodations currently, so that would be main, so you have to provide your
[7:58] on-street parking for the parking. I'll put in kitchenettes or sleeping units. The sleeping
[8:08] unit is different than a dwelling unit, so long-term habitation or even if you're doing
[8:13] or concurrently, you can have a full kitchen,
[8:16] but a sleeping unit is a different use type specific
[8:20] to the building code, which is a sleeping area
[8:25] that may include a living room,
[8:27] that is usually a bathroom,
[8:29] or a kitchen facility, but not both,
[8:31] and that kitchen facility can only be a kitchenette.
[8:34] So it's like a small studio apartment, kind of.
[8:38] I hope that'll help us cut down on trans and the conditions
[8:42] and promote long-term financial and our downtown core.
[8:47] Director, can you define the downtown core?
[8:51] Yes, I decided that the downtown historic district here is, basically,
[8:55] fresh street up to the RVL roundabout.
[9:00] Downs Frames Street to Kane Street,
[9:03] Blair Street, and then over to Court Street,
[9:07] including the courthouse and the county legislative buildings.
[9:11] and learn with not the planning and health department of the county.
[9:18] So, doesn't go up to Blair that way, kind of jogs a little bit, and goes down Web and Nichols.
[9:26] Nichols to B and C. Nichols to B.
[9:31] So, transient could be one night to nine.
[9:35] The transient is divided in our code by 30 days. Up to 30 days? Up to 30 days.
[9:40] Okay, but that's where we've had problems. They can rent once and 30 days for two nights,
[9:46] and then the next night. Do you see what I'm saying? Yes, so they can't cobble together a lot of
[9:52] one or two nine reservations, is that what you're saying? But they can still take something out of the
[9:58] year-round mental pool for transient because they're just renting, you know, for one or two nights.
[10:03] We have some better shared competitors. Yeah. Yeah.
[10:06] And we, well, we didn't go to force on it, so then you could have worked with some officers so that I'll have more time for us, which are, could have worked for a lot of time tracking down the change.
[10:16] And just as everybody knows, we got a lot of chains in the confessions and are both, they found me and single found me a zone. So it's only in the commercials on them. They are allowed.
[10:27] We have a nonconforming which is the parking.
[10:31] I
[10:35] don't remember any bachelor.
[10:36] Yes.
[10:36] That's what my father did.
[10:38] I'm not going to want that.
[10:40] That's OK.
[10:42] So you're looking for a motion to motion.
[10:46] No.
[10:47] OK.
[10:48] That's at a discussion point.
[10:50] I just,
[10:52] and it's this is a time for discussion.
[10:54] I don't know if you want them to make the motion.
[10:56] And then it's we're actually moving into the public testimony.
[11:02] So for public testimony, everyone present will be given an opportunity to be heard.
[11:07] Only one person will be allowed to speak at a time for a duration of three minutes.
[11:11] We will proceed with in-person testimony followed by online testimony, then written testimony.
[11:16] The town clerk will be recording what is said, therefore when you address counsel, come
[11:21] to the podium and begin by stating your name in if you are a town resident.
[11:25] Please speak slowly and clearly. Any exhibit presented at this public hearing becomes part of the public record
[11:31] repeat aimed by
[11:33] Towning. Is there anyone in the audience who would like to testify?
[11:42] Do we have anybody online?
[11:44] Do we have any written testimony?
[11:47] Okay, so we will close the hearing at 12.11 p.m. On August 6th,
[11:53] 2026. Council, please discuss ordinance number 1841. Here's your discussion.
[12:02] I think I'll spend it as good ideas.
[12:07] So we will need a motion then. You have
[12:09] a couple of different options. You can move to approve the ordinance as written.
[12:13] You can move to direct staff who amend and would need to provide those amendments
[12:18] or move to deny ordinance number 1841. I'm totally in agreement of this, but I
[12:24] I feel like this is August the heat of the summer, and the business community is not focusing
[12:30] on this, and I just think in terms of full transparency about what we do, that we should get
[12:34] this out to the chambers, or the business community, so that they are aware of this news.
[12:38] It's supposed to be in these closed rooms.
[12:41] Yeah.
[12:41] That's good idea.
[12:44] These things always seem to come up in the middle of the summer, but I know we've been talking
[12:50] about it for months, but then I just think there's no excuses that you don't know that this
[12:53] is happening. Right.
[12:57] Okay. So you would like to direct staff to to publicize this and revisit this
[13:05] when would you like to revisit it? Next meeting is fine. Just continue the hearing and I'm happy
[13:09] to go. I'm happy to go to Becky and just say, hey, this is happy. Let's get in out my chamber.
[13:15] Because I think that's our relevant business community and then just continue the meeting and then
[13:19] have a vote next week. So I don't want to procrastinate this because I know that we had a deadline,
[13:23] but I think in terms of good government, that would be a...
[13:26] Okay, because we don't have a board meeting until September.
[13:29] Right, none of us are meeting during the summer, so we pretty much taped July and August
[13:33] off.
[13:34] So there wasn't even an opportunity for me to bring that up to my Salmon Island colleagues.
[13:40] The direction from staff was to compose findings of facts and conclusions of law.
[13:46] Conclusions of law, so we're not approving this at the next meeting.
[13:50] We're just directing staff to do the conclusions of law and finance facts.
[13:57] Is that correct?
[13:58] That's what I'm reading here.
[13:59] Well, I need to know if I'm writing those findings and backs as denial changes or approval.
[14:06] But and it's a point of order really quick.
[14:08] We did close the public hearings.
[14:10] So if we want to we can continue the deliberations.
[14:12] But if you want to and you have to reopen the public hearing at your continuation in order to accept more public hearing.
[14:19] All right, that's the money.
[14:20] Got it.
[14:21] Which is fine.
[14:22] I just don't see.
[14:25] Between the real and the public hearing, if we're going to be able to delay it.
[14:29] Okay.
[14:29] We will reopen the hearing at 12.14 p.m. on August 6, 2026, and then continue.
[14:37] Continue.
[14:38] Continuing?
[14:39] Yes.
[14:40] Continuing.
[14:40] There was no comment.
[14:41] Correct.
[14:42] Makes sense.
[14:43] Okay.
[14:43] So we are continuing the public hearing then to August 20.
[14:46] of speeding at which time you will take upon direction to help right out.
[14:54] Yeah, great. All right. We will put on that to them the 20th.
[15:00] Should I move? And we're going to wait till next time. We're going to wait till next time. All right, we will close the public hearing at 12, 14, VM. Continue. Continue. I guess 20, 26. Yeah.
[15:25] Okay.
[15:29] So next on the list is some,
[15:36] and maybe we'll move ahead. Act. We'll do a quick discussion if you won't mind on what the council legislative.
[15:45] the legislative priorities will be for August 20th meeting that is at joint meeting with San
[15:52] One County. Have you had a chance to really think about what your priorities are?
[15:58] I will be honest, a couple of the things that are on that list to talk about during that
[16:02] joint meeting, one of them being the ferry task force. We postponed the last ferry meeting,
[16:08] probably into September, I believe. So there's not going to be, that update will take literally
[16:13] about two minutes. Other than the standard answer that I usually give when people ask me about
[16:18] the fairies, it's not going well.
[16:26] Denise provided some reference point for you guys on exactly
[16:30] what AWC priorities are this year. I don't know if you've had a chance to review those.
[16:43] You've fairly reviewed the legislative priorities.
[16:48] However, I think it's important that
[16:49] you know whatever our priorities are with it stay there in alignment with the county too. So
[16:56] It will be a worthy discussion at which I mean another 20.
[17:00] Yeah, I know that they highlighted the mosquito fleet bill.
[17:04] And I think that's something that's worthy to talk about.
[17:06] Even though we're not talking about the fair advisory committee,
[17:08] but I think that's something that could really help our community.
[17:11] Well, and then we talked about it at the last day.
[17:13] Exactly.
[17:13] So if there's an update on that, that would be valuable.
[17:17] There isn't.
[17:18] I will have to talk to some of my colleagues because at last,
[17:23] I don't know if it's going to be reintroduced as a bill again.
[17:27] I would doubt it based on what I heard from the last session.
[17:31] You have
[17:40] legislated priorities with the Tannis provided under affordable housing and
[17:45] homelessness, which has increased connecting housing and infrastructure program investment.
[17:53] And I'm not sure what that means.
[17:58] Among the second page of the e-mail account, it's a coffee hack on whether it's in the packet or not.
[18:08] Oh, it's, yeah, I think, you know, okay, let's start the packet.
[18:11] I'm just looking at these legislative priorities here, that way.
[18:14] Right.
[18:14] How do they prepare drinking water?
[18:16] It's your firm watering, gosh.
[18:18] I'm just wondering, as far as discussion of the county,
[18:25] you need to be a lineman on this, but I'm just going to look at what these things mean.
[18:29] on the agency and how it would apply to us in the carries
[18:39] on the statement here.
[18:41] And this is probably copied from the AWC notes.
[18:45] In cover, drinking water, sewer, strong water, cash, the flows, and flows, including sidewalks,
[18:52] frontage improvements, the impact fees, and other development cash driven by city requirements.
[18:56] And this will be specific towards affordable housing, you know, homeless issues.
[19:03] That's good, but I'm not sure if we could bring it up to make an impact for this particular
[19:13] verbiage is important to us in the town and the county, so that's a question I have.
[19:20] and public safety parties for impact on safety created by HB215 and I didn't have time
[19:29] to possess what that was by expanding the time frame to use existing grant funds given
[19:36] the delay in the start of the grant program. So it sounds good, but I'd like more information.
[19:42] Yeah, I think most importantly, this August 20th meeting is an opportunity for us really to just continue building on the relationship with the county, you know, there's some challenging roads ahead.
[19:56] And you know, I think we just we have an opportunity between us to really narrow our focus as to what our legislative priorities are going to be, because I do believe the LD40 group is going to be coming at some point.
[20:07] or some future meetings with them to really make sure that we share that same
[20:13] vision between the county and the town for what's important to all of us to make
[20:16] sure that that becomes important for that. So just I would say relatively
[20:23] shortly we need to make kind of firm up what priority is going to be as a group so
[20:28] that we can make sure that we share that be consistently with the county the
[20:32] next meeting.
[20:36] I said to them mention the ones that I've identified is the needs
[20:42] for the clarification and could work with the county in the town, but I need more information.
[20:48] And what was that item?
[20:52] The words
[20:55] affordable housing and homelessness and pervage provided in the email from
[21:02] companies and the book's savings, the HB, the 2015, and there was some other
[21:13] information about life as 20 readers. I'm not sure that's a local town issue, but I think
[21:19] it's brought up. It was brought up by AWC. It shouldn't be an issue for us, I don't think.
[21:27] So, my
[21:31] two cents, I'm going to align with what she said, Evan, about, let's just, you
[21:37] know, continue rough table communications and work in establishing what makes sense for
[21:42] both of us.
[21:44] And I think the other discussion with the LD40 is that there's a lot of unfunded mandates
[21:49] and revenue being so tight, I think we need to have that really candid discussion that we
[21:53] cannot continue to do more at the low below revenue streams are drying up, their revenue
[21:58] new streams drying up, so we need to figure out, you know, they cannot just continue to
[22:01] request things of us. I think that's a really important discussion because that's across the
[22:05] board and many different sectors. Well, and I think that's really important to communicate with
[22:11] the oldie 40 in that, you know, they're pushing down, you know, they're going to get rid of the
[22:19] priorities, but they're not willing to fund them, and they expect the county to pound the fund.
[22:23] Right. Right. So, and we don't have those resources to see it?
[22:26] No, so I think that's just a really good question.
[22:28] Circle that back to the legislature, make some changes or delay it or something.
[22:33] I will say at the conference that Denise Knight attended in Spokane, it was really shocking
[22:40] the number of towns and cities that are just absolutely struggling and are pretty terrified
[22:44] collectively about the future.
[22:47] We're fortunate here in that we've got some good infrastructure in place that we're continuously
[22:51] improving, but I know talking to one city that is running out of water.
[22:55] and the panic that is within the next two years,
[22:59] they have to come up with some huge alternative plans
[23:02] to make sure that they have access to water.
[23:06] Other cities financially are under siege right now,
[23:09] trying to figure out, one of the discussions we had
[23:11] and granted it was in an incredibly small town,
[23:14] they are on the verge of making, I think,
[23:17] well it sounds like a small issue,
[23:21] I think it's a huge issue,
[23:22] they're probably gonna get rid of their website.
[23:25] Like for them, just the raising funds to redo their website, to comply with some of the
[23:33] new requirements for accessibility, they simply don't have the funds, and so they are
[23:39] legitimately talking about getting rid of their website.
[23:42] Which I can't fathom is a local government, but that's the struggles that a lot of our
[23:47] cities and towns are facing right now.
[23:50] So, yeah, obviously we want to make sure we convey that to our legislative group and see
[23:56] what would happen.
[23:57] So with that, so.
[23:58] Okay.
[24:00] All right, hopefully between Jan and I, we can want to work up a framework for,
[24:11] you know,
[24:12] there is also the possibility of postponing that meeting if we don't feel like we're ready
[24:18] for it.
[24:20] We can be ready and it's worth meeting, don't want to push off these conversations.
[24:29] And you know, middle of August, it's a couple of people gone, it's up like that gone on
[24:35] so it might be prudent to postpone it.
[24:40] I'm not sure if everybody else is so.
[24:41] Yeah.
[24:42] You're talking about that.
[24:43] If I'm going to postpone it, then once again we're faced with the issue of trying to court
[24:48] and everybody's schedules and the county council are available and so although I'm happy
[24:59] either way.
[25:01] We'll say I think that we scheduled it ultimately for August to make sure we are prepared for
[25:06] any future.
[25:09] We'll keep it in place.
[25:11] That's okay.
[25:12] Do we?
[25:12] for sure. No, anything about the schedules for L.D. 40 and their presence. So come to the town.
[25:19] I don't. We just had Rick Larson's office on the island last week. Yeah, so.
[25:26] Since County Administrator is present, I'm wondering if you have a comment that we
[25:39] Thank you, Mayor. I think you have counsel. I've been taking
[25:41] serious notes as you've gone along. I have some comments on a couple of these things.
[25:47] To rescheduling, it's entirely up to the will of two counsels. So if you all have conflicts
[25:52] or you're not prepared, I'm sure you're calling some of the county counsels that will be willing to
[25:56] entertain alternative dates and times because they want to have a really fruitful conversation with
[26:00] you all as well. I believe at this point, all three of them remain available to attend.
[26:04] I will not be there, but our deputy council manager told the rules will be in the
[26:08] distance.
[26:11] The early 40 scheduling has been fun series of back and forth because their schedules are
[26:18] also very impacted by the variety of things they have going on.
[26:22] Right now they are tentatively hoping to come up the morning of Wednesday, September 20th.
[26:28] So if there is interest in rescheduling, I would suggest that an opportunity will be to
[26:34] to try and find something before that date.
[26:35] So you all have some time to collectively talk
[26:37] about your plans for that.
[26:39] I believe the Council of August was still working
[26:42] to confirm one of the members of the committee.
[26:46] Also, I will go back and check on that.
[26:52] You had mentioned the chip grants,
[26:54] the Connecting Housing to Infrastructure Program.
[26:57] If that is a literally a priority for the AWC,
[27:00] it's not currently for the County Council,
[27:02] but we, of course, at the county are also very interested
[27:04] in chip funding.
[27:05] So I think that's an area that you might have some coordination around and I can certainly
[27:11] ensure that our either WK manager or our sheriff are available to talk further about
[27:17] the impacts of hospital 2015, which was the piece that went along with the grant dollars
[27:26] that government purposes put in place for public safety funding.
[27:29] the implementation of that grant program was very delayed. They didn't get it out for public
[27:36] awareness and applications until about a year after they had anticipated. They haven't currently
[27:41] extended the time frame for use of those dollars, which is through June 30, 2020 right now.
[27:47] The county has submitted an application for two deputies and vehicles. So it's about 560,000 per
[27:54] to your period. We submitted that application several months ago now, and do not yet have
[28:00] confirmation on if we are approved or if we will get that funding, but we haven't negotiated
[28:04] them back and forth with additional documentation. It's interesting. And I will wrap up by saying,
[28:10] but I agree with Mayor's comments about website and the challenges that they can pose, particularly
[28:17] for small jurisdictions. The county is going through a process right now to update our website
[28:22] to be compliant, but you're required to do that in the mid-2027.
[28:26] We have about 15,000 documents on our website which are not currently compliance,
[28:31] specifically PDFs, so something like your work packets or other packets, and they have to be
[28:37] made compliant for the ADA side of things to ensure that if you can't see pictures in them,
[28:44] there is a description of the graphics.
[28:55] Thank
[28:58] you so much, I appreciate your time.
[29:03] So I would suggest that we keep the meeting scheduled for the 20th.
[29:08] I just think that time will get away from us pretty quickly.
[29:14] So we'll be prepared.
[29:16] I think we have a pretty good framework of what is important to all of us.
[29:19] You talk about it a lot.
[29:21] Yeah.
[29:22] Okay.
[29:22] All right, we'll move on to director reports.
[29:25] We have a public work updated for lip-tack and be presenting on the Council Chamber Improvement
[29:31] Project and the need for a change order for the public parking lot improvement project.
[29:36] Thank you, Mayor and Council.
[29:37] We have a public work directive.
[29:39] Yeah, quick update on the chamber.
[29:41] We've got most of these information for the completion of the chamber project.
[29:45] And we have one with I don't need to do some architectural work in this wall.
[29:49] If you remember, we approved getting a pocket door.
[29:52] That's a substantial change to this wall, so we need some engineering work, so that's the last bit we need to have.
[29:57] We're still under budget as we are today.
[30:00] Just to pick up date. Once we have that done, we should be able to get some time for each one to be completed. So we have all the bids and all the other items lined up. Bill occasionally, if you're in here, see a hole in the wall or so, that is part of the work to try to understand what is behind some of these walls. As you might imagine, we could build in this old, you know, the bids are based on what's expected to be there. And so we've got some more work to do on that part, particularly on each back of all of this wall. So the numbers may move slightly and I'll update you on that.
[30:27] If you find any 100-year-old loose paperback there is savings.
[30:34] No, I don't think I'm eligible to buy that.
[30:39] I can move on to the next one, which is resolution 3038.
[30:49] As you may remember, we've got a parking lot project.
[30:54] In looking at the placement of the planters, we've got on order, myself, and the
[31:00] vintage case, and Valerie's good look, we realized that, yeah, she's good to the next
[31:04] page, that the Chamberlain Fence is improving along the luck that property actually runs
[31:11] into the two Chamberlain Fence pieces up front, and they're not in the greatest condition.
[31:16] So we took a look at these and what also means, they want the portfolio condition.
[31:19] And one on the northeast side is one you're showing right here, the two posts are actually
[31:23] in pretty good shape. We'll be able to reuse those if this is fast. But that's actually
[31:28] a cattle panel just zip tied in there. So it's not even a real chanting fence piece or a sample.
[31:34] And then if we go to the next one, I'm sorry. So are we, are you just talking about replacing the
[31:39] two panels? Yeah, no cows. And then on the next one, on the southwest side, which is over against the
[31:47] on that side. That post in the background will be replaced as part of the original project.
[31:52] And then this section right here, that vertical post is both too long and not actually in the
[31:57] ground right there. You can move that around if you wanted to to grab it. So this is to add that
[32:02] section in as well too. So these two sections added in without slaps will be see-throughs. You can see
[32:09] through them is about $2,000 as a change. This is still well within the budget that the accounts
[32:15] approved. Over the spring, the cost for the Quartan planters came in quite a bit less than
[32:21] we thought they might, and so we're still within the budget by a good margin here. So this
[32:25] doesn't cause a budget issue. It's more of a strategic, for instance.
[32:29] On the fence line between the working lot and the car quest,
[32:38] there might be a place
[32:41] as far as having bumbers, so that they don't ram cars into the fence and quick
[32:46] a gigantic incident, which is kind of the case now, but did I get parking bunkers to
[32:52] alleviate that or prevent that? So that's on the premise. I'll let the mayor speak to this.
[32:57] They do not. There are two things that I think are important to highlight.
[33:03] A, the new fencing will have slats. I think it'll be much easier to identify that a fence is there.
[33:08] And then we have offered to, at their expense, like the business, we've offered at their
[33:16] expense to pick up and have delivered the bumpers and install them for them, but they would
[33:22] be responsible for the cost.
[33:23] So I personally need to circle back and let them know that that work is happening soon, and
[33:29] then we're ready to go.
[33:31] That's great.
[33:31] We need to do that.
[33:32] Yes.
[33:33] Great.
[33:33] That's great.
[33:34] That's going to help.
[33:35] And that's going to happen at the same time so that whatever work we complete isn't disrupted by
[33:42] cars ramming into the car. I mean as legitimately as we were, I think first walking the property
[33:47] back in January, February, February, several cars were actually backed into the fence. So
[33:54] yeah. Are we going to put up jersey barriers? Yeah. I do think the slats will make it more identifiable
[34:02] that there's a fence there.
[34:04] And there'll be slots on both sides, so on that side, plus the other business side.
[34:09] We've worked with our bikes, they have a lot of slots.
[34:10] So you can see into the parking lot.
[34:12] Right, but on the southwest side, no, on the up.
[34:14] Can you count the other?
[34:23] So again. So we're not replacing any of the ifs.
[34:26] Okay. So there's no slots being out.
[34:27] So only the slots on the left side.
[34:30] Okay, perfect.
[34:31] It makes sense that you wouldn't want to put slots, using the streets.
[34:35] No, no, but that was just thinking on the other business side.
[34:37] Oh, okay. That's like between what the tree is.
[34:42] Yeah, but I don't think that's actually kind of a nice view compared to looking at it.
[34:47] It is. A car lot. Yeah.
[34:49] In the discussion at the time, just to give you some background on this,
[34:52] there were some concerns about being able to see the defense on that side for safety reasons,
[34:56] because there's that part in the lot in the back.
[34:58] I don't care all the location.
[35:00] So, at least those of us who were talking at the time,
[35:03] that was why we did not consider putting slats in the minutes.
[35:16] So, I would like to have a motion for Resolution No. 3038, the Change Order No. 1 to the
[35:24] contract with Discount Fence for the Public Parking Law Agreement Project. This would be for the
[35:30] additional panels in the front.
[35:37] We approve Resolution No. 3038, change order No. 1, adding the panels to the front of the fence and the other improvements as
[35:46] an inemorated by a direct elliptic for the public parking lot improvement project.
[35:51] Second. Great. It's been moved and seconded to approve Resolution No. 3038, change order No. 1 to the contract with discount fence for the public parking lot improvement project.
[36:02] All the favour?
[36:03] All right.
[36:04] Motion carries.
[36:06] Mr. Lipteck, you're back up again.
[36:08] Yes, I am.
[36:09] Thank you, Mayor.
[36:11] I'm here to talk about, you deserve a free night.
[36:13] It's a little more complex than the last one.
[36:15] I just spoke about that.
[36:16] Apologies.
[36:17] I can't believe you're back up here.
[36:18] Because we can.
[36:18] This has come up rapidly.
[36:20] We're in line with this.
[36:22] So can you give you some back to come on what has happened here?
[36:25] Four years ago, the economic loss of property and the dam were asked to replace the dam itself.
[36:31] infrastructure to safety reasons. Getting that through permitting and so on has taken four years, so although we were aware this was coming up, we didn't know when it was going to happen.
[36:42] We got the engineering reports. This was almost ready to go.
[36:47] And so I reached out to the owner of the time because we have some infrastructure for the water department that goes both through the stand and across the pond itself.
[36:54] I'm talking a little bit about that instruction, but I got some ideas from Boston who is going
[37:01] to do this.
[37:02] There's their dam and their pond.
[37:04] Potentially replacing some of the infrastructure that we have in the pond and everything.
[37:09] There's two reasons we need to do this when they replace the dam, which they've already done.
[37:14] They already took one of our pipes out and we'll either have to put one back, or when we have,
[37:17] or replace it and I'll talk about that in a moment.
[37:20] And then there's the actual pipe across the pond itself.
[37:22] And these are some pictures of it right here in this yesterday.
[37:26] I got the bid from them just yesterday, so again, I'll use for this being short.
[37:30] And the reason this is under some time pressure is that getting the dam replaced
[37:34] before it starts raining is critical.
[37:36] They only have a very limited amount of time to do this work.
[37:39] So that's why I was kind of pressed for time.
[37:42] That third picture, although it's hard to see, is actually the missing dam.
[37:45] That's all the dirt removed, including our pipe, which was there.
[37:49] So this is the pipe negotiation log one that pumps water up and into traveling as an additional
[37:53] water source for us as part of the water reservoir. This pipe is quite old and is made out of
[38:00] fiberglass, and this is one of the problems that we've met with about this pipe. In the last 20 years,
[38:04] we've spent, that said, I've just done five times an average of about $5.5 which was fine.
[38:09] It seems to be about $1,025,000 on this pipe already because it tends to bring
[38:15] It is far less pipe, there is only one company that makes this pipe in a different special
[38:19] order.
[38:21] So, when we have had to fix it, it has also been quite difficult to fix with special
[38:24] parts.
[38:25] So, what we would like to do, and we have always planned to do, was to place the pipe with
[38:29] HDP pipe, which is now involved.
[38:32] Yes.
[38:32] That is the thing that we used on the transmission one, the current waste current, HDP.
[38:37] So, this is not the pipe that you would see in the main that we would connect to for somebody
[38:41] service. That's a different kind of PVC pipe that accepts that. It's better. This is more
[38:46] resilient to ground movement and other things like this. This is a pipe that should last 100 years,
[38:50] for example, it's a static life span. In fact, they don't really know the end, but that's
[38:54] pretty into the life. So we had planned on doing this project when we would know when the timing was.
[39:00] We were a little bit surprised by it being right at. And so that's why I'm here. If you want a short
[39:05] notice on this one. So as part of the overall project, it's more than just a pipe you will see in
[39:10] in your packet, if you want to think about it on itself,
[39:14] and you can see kind of a quick outline
[39:17] of where things are.
[39:18] There are at least two vowels that we put in.
[39:21] If we replace some piping,
[39:22] we need to be able to test that section of pipe
[39:24] and also to be sure,
[39:26] but now there is not a valve over this section,
[39:28] so you have to shut the entire line off
[39:30] if you want to do anything.
[39:32] Um, yeah, starting to make each end of the level
[39:35] where to go.
[39:36] So you can see where across the pond right there,
[39:38] actually pipe this back directly across the pond
[39:40] as it's gone down, if you read about it, look, it's gotten a big bow in and towards the south.
[39:45] One of the reasons why the fiping amount that we need is a little more of the distance
[39:49] you see in this picture. It does have anchors on the bottom which have to be removed and then replace
[39:57] their concrete anchors with the stainless steel channel. It's been removed temporarily as they go
[40:03] right now, the pond is down over 10 feet right now,
[40:05] and it's going to go out that way.
[40:07] You might notice that.
[40:09] So what we need are some control valves
[40:12] and either end of this pipe if we replace it.
[40:15] There are two options I have in front of you go here.
[40:17] So one option is to replace the pipe across the pond itself.
[40:21] That's the fibroblast pipe.
[40:22] You saw pictures on it with the graph.
[40:23] One of these graph actually we're
[40:25] going to have to fix that either way.
[40:27] And that's one part of the point.
[40:28] That's about 50,000 dollars to do that part.
[40:30] The other possible part is in the dam itself, which they already removed was a ductile iron piece of pipe that we use for this part of our project.
[40:39] That is an older 30 year old piece of pipe. It should last 50 years or so, but while the dam is open or fought as this is the time to put the new pipe in place because right now there's ductile iron in there.
[40:51] He can put it back for no costs on that side.
[40:54] So that's why it's 50 or 70 as you see in the two costs here.
[40:59] So the only caution I would have to not
[41:02] replace in the pipe right now is that again,
[41:05] it's got maybe 20 years who was a long, long life.
[41:08] And then we had to get to that pipe because it broke or when it does break,
[41:12] it's going to be very expensive.
[41:14] I looked at a couple of bids.
[41:16] I have a million dollars to touch the dam, something like that,
[41:18] because it's quite difficult to touch the dam with what you have to
[41:21] drain and it's not so much stuff. So our thought is while we log out the dam open, we put the
[41:26] face of the other agent section and do it all the way across. So those are the two options that
[41:31] are sort of before even I can talk about funding and just defend, but I want to stop and make sure
[41:35] there's not any questions about the technical subject of quick question. For my benefit and
[41:40] anybody watching or listening, HDP is, I guess the polyethic, polyethic, okay. So this is the more
[41:48] robbery pipe. If you've ever had pipe put into your house, it's not PDC, but more
[41:52] through the website. Okay. And it is actually a hot fuse, so there are not connections.
[41:57] Another advantage of it, it's actually welded together, so it becomes one piece, the entire
[42:00] distance. The fiberglass, as you saw there, has connectors. And that one good try took is just
[42:06] the nearest one, and it is broken. So, correct. As an example.
[42:11] Is fiberglass worse for the environment than what we would be replacing it with?
[42:18] That would be a judgment fault. Both of them are plastic-based products, by private glasses,
[42:23] plastic around, around the glass, right? And ATP is a common plastic case in today. So I don't know
[42:29] that you could say one is better for the environment. The plastic without the fiber in it definitely
[42:36] has less risk of it when it breaks a bit in the environment aside from this chunks of plastic.
[42:42] So, I would think that this is just my own judgment that that would be slightly better.
[42:47] It is longer-lived, so if we put fiberglass in there both the next 300 years, we would
[42:51] do that multiple times from 10th.
[42:53] First, the HDP is likely to last a long time, especially in the ground.
[42:58] So, with the same stuff you see on those trucks on the highway, those big turquoise pipes that
[43:05] are strapped to the flatbed trucks.
[43:07] Yeah.
[43:08] Yeah.
[43:08] Yeah.
[43:09] The reality is when I toured the water facility in Trial Lake, it was pretty obvious at that
[43:14] point that the piping need to be replaced.
[43:17] This is the perfect time to do it.
[43:18] They're already draining it.
[43:19] They're all working.
[43:20] All the work.
[43:21] Makes sense.
[43:22] Let's do it now.
[43:24] That's not done.
[43:25] Exactly.
[43:26] Yeah.
[43:26] That's right.
[43:28] Let me talk just briefly about the funding sites.
[43:31] We did not have this in the budget, so there was need to be a bucket of them into this.
[43:34] I talked to our financial team next question.
[43:36] So right now, our water operating fund for the capital repairs fund, we have only 25,000
[43:44] in that fund right now.
[43:45] So talking with our financial team downstairs, all three of them that is our consultant
[43:50] Bethany Heather and Leslie, we do have in the water operating fund almost $1.2 million
[43:55] right now, which is part of our backup, if you like.
[43:59] And so the proposal we need to transfer the money necessary from this, from the water operating
[44:03] in front of the capital repairable fund as well.
[44:06] And in fact, I wouldn't need that as an emotion
[44:08] before we move to the next phase.
[44:12] And totally needs to be moved.
[44:14] So we need, from talking with them,
[44:16] they believe we should move the $75,000 charge.
[44:19] It's actually aiding with that.
[44:21] But they suspect the $75,000.
[44:22] That way, we would end up with about 20,000 in that fund.
[44:25] If we had other repairs, we need to do that.
[44:28] So that was the problem now.
[44:30] without coming to you for another change in the market.
[44:33] And then that 1.2 that's there, that was also dedicated for the filter.
[44:37] Right? That's some of the other projects that we were doing.
[44:40] Our portion of the filter over the next 20 years will come from that,
[44:43] but there's not a good charge coming out of that right now,
[44:45] and to do my understanding.
[44:48] Okay, because that project is on the horizon.
[44:51] The horizon is on the horizon.
[44:52] Yeah, that we're right now making payments against the law.
[44:57] Okay, so that money is not for you, it's not for you.
[45:00] That would not affect the money that we have allocated. Okay.
[45:06] So the first thing I would need is, is a motion to move the money between those two funds. And then we can talk about the doubt that two options. So we need a motion to move $75,000 from our water fund to our general repair fund from our from our water operating fund to our capital repair water capital repair fund. Okay.
[45:38] Obviously, if we're not going to do three or three, nine, we shouldn't move the money.
[45:41] So, I guess they are tied, but I need that one to do the other one, so.
[45:45] So, I move that we approved $75,000 to move from the water operating fund to the water
[45:51] capital repair fund, an appropriation of approving a resolution number 3039.
[45:58] Second.
[45:59] Great.
[45:59] It has been moved.
[46:00] Yes.
[46:01] It has been moved and seconded to move $75,000 from our water operating fund to our water capital
[46:06] repair fund.
[46:09] All in favour?
[46:11] Aye.
[46:12] Motion carries.
[46:13] Moving on to Resolution No. 3039.
[46:16] Rising in contract with Lawson Construction for Water Supply Infrastructure associated with the Lawson Dam and Pond Training Project.
[46:26] Do we hear a motion?
[46:28] I'm at the motion to approve the resolution.
[46:31] We're three in 0, 3, 9, agorizing the Tom County Tool 3.
[46:38] We're just going to contract with Lawson Construction for Water Supply Infrastructure
[46:43] associated with the Lawson Dam and Palm Training Project.
[46:48] Second, and to clarify your motion that we're doing the whole 70,000 per my motion before
[46:54] that.
[46:54] I feel like you needed to have those 8,000, 8,000, 8,000, 8,000, so I'll recent my motion
[47:04] and amend my motion or amend my motion.
[47:08] Okay, so it's moved and seconded to approve resolution number 3039, authorizing a contract
[47:15] with loss and construction for water supply infrastructure associated with the loss and
[47:20] dam and pond draining project.
[47:22] All in favor?
[47:24] motion carries. Thank you. Thank you.
[47:31] So we'll move to public comments. We have anybody for public comment.
[47:36] We have anybody online.
[47:41] All right moving to future agenda items. We have any future agenda items
[47:45] anybody would like to add. I don't have a future agenda item. I probably shouldn't have done this
[47:50] under announcements. At the beginning of the meeting, but we are going to conduct another leadership
[47:58] should send one island's class this fall and spring.
[48:03] And we've already got seven applications
[48:05] and starting in December.
[48:07] So we've got a whole bunch online.
[48:12] It's part of some modified information for the website.
[48:15] So we encourage people to check it out if they're interested
[48:19] or anybody that you think might be interested in
[48:23] putting town and county staff.
[48:28] And I also want to mention that Denise sent out an email about the video that you also
[48:39] his presentation at the AWC conference, 13 ways to kill your community.
[48:46] It is a fabulous look.
[48:48] I'm reading it right now.
[48:49] It's an extension getter title.
[48:51] That's good.
[48:55] It's probably one of the best public speakers I've heard in your
[48:58] presentation was marvellous.
[49:01] It's a good video.
[49:02] It's very similar and you'll remember Roger Brooks.
[49:06] It's pretty much the same content material.
[49:09] But it's always a good reminder to keep this stuff in focus.
[49:14] Anyhow, that's it for me.
[49:17] Thanks.
[49:17] I would like to have a discussion with council about the idea of putting solar panels on
[49:26] one or more town buildings.
[49:29] Before I'm ready to have that introduce that discussion, I'm going to try to meet with
[49:36] some people from O'Palco to get some more specific information and share so we're not trying
[49:42] to make a decision in the vacuum as to whether or not
[49:46] want to pursue that possibility.
[49:48] Yeah, I think it's a good idea.
[49:50] In your discussions with them, but might be valuable
[49:52] to find out what percentage of our local town power is going to come
[49:57] from their solar projects.
[49:59] Right?
[50:00] So that would be something I would talk with them about.
[50:04] And that's Mark Mason still in the, yes.
[50:08] Talk with them.
[50:11] Okay.
[50:12] All right, if there's nothing else, I will go back to because I skipped the San Juan County report.
[50:17] Just got to know you've already spoken, but you're more than welcome to.
[50:22] I apologize.
[50:25] Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Council. Thank you, Mayor. Sorry, have it. Thank you, Mayor, thank you,
[50:30] Council. Just a few other things that are going on in the county. As I was listening to some of your
[50:36] or capital projects and coming.
[50:38] You may have noticed that our legislative building
[50:40] has some challenges with exciting.
[50:42] We are working right now with allocated funding
[50:45] to support residing in that building.
[50:47] This is a little shabby.
[50:49] We're working on this right now.
[50:51] We're hoping to follow up on the work
[50:52] that's happening in the state
[50:53] because they would already have people deployed here.
[50:56] Sly right onto that, we'll step over here.
[50:59] So I think it would be a nice little piece
[51:01] of something happening in an urgent space here.
[51:03] Most of the rest of our county council's energy continues to be focused on the budget.
[51:08] I feel like we're carrying out our agenda back and forth on this broken record for a while now.
[51:12] At this point, the county council heard continued updates on the budget.
[51:18] Their office third meeting specifically about some proposed reorganization and the impacts to our
[51:22] county sense budget there, as well as to some potential revenue streams that they might want to
[51:26] consider. Continue considering and they will pick up the conversation. She again,
[51:30] and Auditor presents a preliminary
[51:32] at the Stratt budget on August 25th.
[51:35] So those are our next steps on the budgets.
[51:38] We also just wrapped up the primary.
[51:41] So we now have two candidates
[51:42] that are going to continue to work
[51:43] for the district three staff
[51:44] that Councilmember Foley will be vacating
[51:47] and see what come back to that number.
[51:50] But otherwise, it's a lovely summer.
[51:52] I hope you all get some time away to enjoy it
[51:54] and look forward to the joining up thing.
[51:57] I'm happy to answer your questions, Laura.
[51:59] I am just curious, so the budget, what point is the budget get approved and do you announce
[52:05] any changes?
[52:08] Great question.
[52:09] So, when the auditor presents the draft delivery budget on August 25th, she is not setting
[52:13] up for curing.
[52:15] She's not having a public hearing at that point.
[52:17] They set the first day of the public hearing, it is whatever our first October meeting is,
[52:23] October 5th, which is somewhere in there.
[52:25] Typically, we hold a couple of extra days as well because we can have a lot of comments
[52:29] and they may wish to make changes.
[52:32] We try and adopt it no later than the end of November on our meeting, then it's the
[52:37] Tuesday before Thanksgiving.
[52:39] I think knowing that we've done a lot of preliminary work already, counsel on your process
[52:44] through all June to identify about 3.7 or 3.8 million reductions and many of those have
[52:50] impact on people and programs. I would guess that they're going to try and do it earlier
[52:56] just so that there's not so much of people around what may come and what may be. So sometime
[53:03] in October, remember time frame is out of discussion. Okay, great. Thank you. You're welcome. Any
[53:10] other questions? Great. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you.
[53:15] All
[53:20] right. So if there's
[53:22] something else. We'll go ahead and adjourn the meeting at 12.53pm on August 6, 2026. Thank you so much.
[53:39] I keep trying to, I keep trying to talk fast.